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I have great respect for knowledgefight
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I'm sick of them posing as if they're the good guys
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saying we are the bad guys
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Andy, Andy, it's time to pray
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Hello Alex, I'm a system caller, I'm a huge fan
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I love your room
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Hey everybody, welcome back to Knowledge Fight, I'm Dan
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I'm Jordan
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We're a couple dudes, I can sit around, drink novelty beverages
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and talk a little bit about Alex Jones
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Oh indeed we are Dan
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Jordan
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Dan!
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Jordan
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I have a quick question for you
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What's up
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What's your bright spot today?
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My bright spot today is I splurged on a little investment for the show
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Who did you?
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And that is this button press
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Watch out
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That I am touching right now
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I see it
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A little button maker
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It's very powerful
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Um, I think that Sensei was a much younger man
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I've always been really interested, and I didn't realize this,
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this very deep buried subconscious thing
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Okay
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In button maker
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Alright
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I think that
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When I was a young man
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I think I was jealous of the punks with their cool buttons and their bands
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Oh yeah yeah, you go to a punk show and every band has buttons
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and you're like, where do these fucking buttons come from?
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Who do these magical buttons?
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Everybody's got their leather jackets with their cool buttons on them
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and I'm just sitting there like a dork
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It is really kind of puncturing of the punk aesthetic to realize that
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half of the time they're just in their basements pumping out buttons
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Someone is
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We're fighting the man, but also I gotta make these goddamn buttons
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The nerdy one is making the buttons
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Everybody else is pretending to practice their instruments
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That's why Rivers Cuomo got a band
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That's where you gotta start making buttons
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He's the button guy
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Yeah yeah
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Um, and I want to have something that I can give to listeners and stuff
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and I think it'd be really fun to be able to just sit around while I'm doing some work
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listening to Alex just cranking out buttons
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Yeah, just cranking out buttons
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So we've got some, we've got some updates about that forthcoming in the near future
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That's lovely
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Um, and then the other thing, the other thing was like
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so he's got all the punks with the buttons
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and there's this, this, this jingle, this commercial jingle
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I think from back when I lived in Hawaii
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Sure
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I don't know what business it was, but it was buttons, buttons, who's got the buttons?
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We do
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And it was like this button company
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It stuck in my head since I was like eight or nine
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I like a direct advertising approach
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Final thing, I think buttons are really cool
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I like going to antique stores and looking at these like
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weird old like mayoral race buttons from 1960 whatever
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Yeah, we were in an antique store just the other day
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and I was staring at all these like JFK and Reagan buttons and all that shit
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Yeah
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There's something really, really cool about buttons
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And I didn't realize how exciting it would be to have a button press
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I think it's a paradox in some ways
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because there is also something deeply uncool about buttons
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Yeah, in 2020
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Yeah, it's a very interesting, fun thing to have
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Well, I'm gonna hold on to it as a bright spot nonetheless
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Oh, indeed
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What about you?
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For me it is, Open Mike Eagle just released his new album
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Oh yeah
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And it is absolutely incredible
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Do you know, it reminds me so much of a green room conversation
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like that comics have
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where it's like some dude will be telling you the worst thing that's ever happened in his entire life
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and there's like four comics sitting around with him
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and everybody is hearing this story
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and then there's a riff that happens and everybody starts laughing hysterically
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and then it stops and it goes back into the saddest story
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and that's just how it works
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like that's just how we deal with that green room conversation
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and it's dark darkly funny about his divorce and all that stuff
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but then of course it's also extremely sad about the worst things that's ever happened
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How is he dealing with the fact that in the age of COVID-19 there are no more Open Mics?
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He's doing a great job with it
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He's moved on from those
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He kept the name, but he moved on from those
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Zoom Show Eagle?
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Middle Eagle, yeah
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Oh, that's great
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I'll have to check that out next time on the bike
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It's really, really good
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I do like his work, so that's awesome
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Hey Jordan, today we got an interesting episode to go over
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We're gonna be talking about
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What's that?
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February 16th and 24th, 2016
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Oh, that's in the past, Dan
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This is now 2016
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Get the fuck out of here, I support that
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This is now my autonomous of time zone
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I went and listened
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I know TikTok, what are we up to today?
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We're covering this for a specific reason
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And actually there's a myriad of reasons
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One of them is that I tried to cook up a Project Camelot episode
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But the episode I listened to
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Unfortunately by the time I got through the interview I was preparing
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I realized this person is not someone who I can make fun of
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I don't feel comfortable about their state of mind
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And quite honestly, Jordan
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I believe that after our last episode at the end of last week
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Where we heard Alex's long racist songs
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Oh boy
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Very racist
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I just feel like it's the kind of thing where present day Alex might need to go into timeout
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It's a timeout situation
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Yes
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Yeah, absolutely
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There needs to be a punishment for this type of thing
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I feel at least
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You know how you're not supposed to yell at your cat?
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You're just supposed to sort of like if it misbehaves
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Just sort of like ignore it for a little bit
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Right, right, right
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Don't give it the satisfaction
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Yeah
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That's kind of how I feel right now with Alex
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And I go ahead and treat you like a like a disobedient cat
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Back off, back off
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Yeah, so we'll get down to this episode here from February 2016
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But before we do, we've got to take a moment to say thank you
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To the folks who have signed up and are supporting the show
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Oh, that's a great idea
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Yeah
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So first, Kluge, thank you so much
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You are now a policy wonk
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I'm a policy wonk
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Thank you, Kluge
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Thank you, Kluge
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Next, The Best Chantal, thank you so much
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You are now a policy wonk
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I'm a policy wonk
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Thank you very much, The Best Chantal
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Thank you so much
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Next, Mortlock, thank you so much
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You are now a policy wonk
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I'm a policy wonk
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Thank you very much, Mortlock
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Thank you so much
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Next, William Nephew, thank you so much
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You are now a policy wonk
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I'm a policy wonk
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Thank you very much, William Nephew
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Thank you
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Next, Disembodied Spirit of Nonk, thank you so much
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You are now a policy wonk
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I'm a policy wonk
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Thank you very much, Disembodied Spirit of Nonk
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Also, The Disembodied Spirit of Nonk wanted me to ask you
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If you had a chance to try that whiskey that got sent in
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By The Disembodied Spirit of Nonk
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I think that's revealed
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I think that's revealed
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Yes, I did
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It is very, very good
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Do you have any, like, notes of vanilla or hickory or any pretentious sommelier notes?
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You know, whiskey is difficult. I don't appreciate it when people describe whiskey.
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I honestly have this relationship with whiskey where it's like,
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you should be both surprised and delighted by the taste, and if you're anything other than that,
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if you have any other flavor situations, I'm like a little bit put off by that.
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Alright, I'm writing down after notes of cherry.
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It is, it has a little bit of a good taste.
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Okay.
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It tastes good.
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Awesome.
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Yeah.
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And then next, on behalf of Catherine, Vince H, thank you so much, you are now a policy wonk.
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I'm a policy wonk.
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Thank you very much, Vince.
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Next, this is confusing and it's gonna be tough verbally, but
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Barry, not Barry, and it's B-A-R-R-Y, not B-E-R-R-Y.
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I gotcha.
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I don't know how to pronounce one differently than the other,
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but Barry, not Barry, thank you so much, you are now a policy wonk.
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I'm a policy wonk.
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Thank you, Barry, or Barry.
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And then finally, Karga the Cogitator.
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Thank you so much, you are now a policy wonk.
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I'm a policy wonk.
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Thank you very much, Karga the Cogitator.
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Yeah, thank you.
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I also, I'm not sure, I can't remember now if Alex calls himself a cogitator or a cogitor.
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I want to say it's cogitator.
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I was cogitating like a cogite-
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I want to say it's cogitator because he thinks it's a name.
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And he's thinking about potaters.
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Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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Anyway, thank you, Karga.
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Appreciate it very much.
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Indeed.
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If you're out there listening and thinking,
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hey, I enjoyed the show, I'd like to support these gents too,
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you can do that by going to our website, knowledgefate.com,
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clicking the button that says, support the show, or-
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Or what you can do is go back to your little cupboard there,
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maybe you're not feeling too generous,
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pull open a very lovely bottle of whiskey, uncork that,
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and discover that it is actually the spirit of generosity itself that you taste.
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Take that spirit and bring it to a local charity or bail fund in your area.
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That was smooth.
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That wasn't bad.
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Like a nice, expensive whiskey, smooth.
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You would think that by now I would at least improve slightly.
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Yeah.
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So, Jordan, today, like I said, we're in the past,
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we're looking at this, this is February 16th,
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and we're looking at this for a reason,
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and we'll get to that reason as we get through.
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Indeed.
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But here's where we start.
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Alex covering the big news of the day.
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All right.
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And we've got our reporters, David Knight, Joe Biggs,
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and a camera crew as well, now down at the scene of where Scalia
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reportedly died of natural causes, an anonymous phone call said,
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and there'll be no investigation by any of the media or the government,
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and there'll be no autopsy, they made sure to announce the next day,
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because there's nothing to see here, just go to sleep, go away.
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So the big news on February 16th, 2016,
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was that Antonin Scalia, who Alex calls Anthony twice.
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Of course, of course, why not?
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Uh, he has, uh, passed away at, uh, the Illuminati ranch in Texas.
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So we've set up a Murder, She Wrote episode,
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where we're gonna find out who killed Antonin Scalia by the end of this.
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We're gonna find out something.
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Okay.
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Um, I will say that Alex has not developed by this point,
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the Illuminati lodge, which I know is definitely something that got tossed around.
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It's coming down the pipeline.
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Um, he believes that, uh, obviously murder, duh.
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Well, of course. Yeah, yeah, yeah, come on.
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Uh, but, uh, yeah, he's got Joe Biggs, he's got David Knight out there on the scene.
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Uh-huh.
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Um, great, good tea.
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Here's what's gonna happen, according to Alex.
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Okay.
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Uh, this is, they're gonna replace Scalia real fast.
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Okay.
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A first amendment critic may get the nomination, uh, for the Supreme Court justice,
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that's a Kurt Nemo article, Attorney General Loretta Lynch, uh, of course,
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they're banning buildings named Lynch because it hurts people's feelings.
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Will she change her name because it's associated with lynching?
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Uh, of course, it's not associated with lynching.
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It's an Irish name, but who cares?
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Uh, Attorney General Loretta Lynch, uh, or Attorney General Loretta, uh, racist name,
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hang black people, hurt my feelings.
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Okay.
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All right.
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Uh, this name means Attorney General Loretta Lynch has publicly expressed
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enmity towards first amendment.
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So another, uh, very important story.
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Yikes.
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Yikes, Alex.
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All right.
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Okay, Alex, Alex, the, uh, you know how it's great whenever somebody is so racist,
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even attempting to be non-racist is incredibly racist.
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Yeah.
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There's nothing, there's nothing racist about the name Lynch.
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Like I had some friends who had that name growing up, you know, it's not, uh, but also
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Marshawn Lynch.
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Sure.
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But also Lynch.
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Yeah.
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The term, um, for like the extra judicial hanging does come from that name.
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Yeah, there is that.
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It's named after either William or Charles Lynch, two figures of early American history
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who, uh, had Lynch's law.
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Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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They grew into the name, if you will.
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Yeah.
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So it is, uh, I don't know what point I'm trying to make other than like Alex should
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just stay away from it.
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I don't know.
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Leave it alone.
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Uh, so anyway, yeah, Loretta Lynch is going to be the, the new Supreme Court justice,
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which we all now know is definitely going to be great.
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Totally accurate.
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It would really save him a lot of a headache if, if she just went to the bench.
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So Alex has, uh, he believes that he's become, he's been vindicated.
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Uh, immediately when Scalia died, he made some predictions about how to tell if it was
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murder and it turns out Alex was right.
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Okay.
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Uh, it's my job to take the heat and just to tell you what my gut and what the evidence
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shows and to, uh, not play games and not be a coward.
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That's why I came out Saturday hours after it was announced he was dead, did my research
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and said the fact that they instantly announced that he died of natural causes with a quote
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anonymous phone call.
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The fact that it's in the middle of nowhere and this, this owner of the ranch is a high
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level democratic donor.
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Uh, the fact that, uh, they are instantly saying no foul play, there'll be no investigation.
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I said, watch if there's no autopsy and we hear that quickly, we know there's major alarms
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going off.
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And of course the next morning the judge came in on a Sunday and said there will be no autopsy.
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So Alex has been proven right.
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Absolutely.
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He sets the preconditions of how he will be proven right.
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Exactly.
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And then he's proven right and nothing has been proven.
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It's really great whenever you set your preconditions after the precondition, preconditions have
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already been met, in which case it's like, yeah, see man, I was proved right.
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Or if you say something like, if there's no autopsy, uh, then it's, uh, you know, it's
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suspicious.
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Yeah.
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If you say that, then if there is an autopsy, you get to question the autopsy.
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And if there isn't one, you'd be like, I was right.
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And I said that if there wasn't one, then it was definitely murder.
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Yeah, yeah. The sun, if the sun rises tomorrow, Oh man, it was murder.
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Oh man.
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It was murder.
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Yeah. Uh, this, this is, um, nonsense.
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And, uh, you know, there could have been an autopsy.
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Sure.
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If Antonin Scalia's family wanted one.
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And they could have said it at any time.
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They're not required in Texas when there isn't foul play suspected, even if the person is
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a high profile individual.
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So what you're saying.
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But if anyone who had like a connection or a reason to request the autopsy, if they had
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wanted to, they could have.
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So you're saying the family was in on it.
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Yeah, that's what I'm saying.
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I'm pretty sure what you just told me is that the family killed Antonin Scalia.
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I think Alex might be working on that by the end of the month, by the end of February.
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If the sun rises tomorrow, I think we've definitively proved.
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Yeah.
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So we know, cause we looked at 2015 quite a bit, that Alex becomes a big Trump fan by
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uh, mid December of 2015 and into early 2016, he has, uh, he has jumped.
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He has conveniently forgot all of the crimes that he remembered Trump committed just a
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recent bit ago.
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Well, you know, that's small potatoes compared to the fact that Trump is trying to talk shit
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about how Bush, uh, let 9-11 happen.
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That'll do it.
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Alex is really excited about that.
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Of course.
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Cheney, Trump, way off base with 9-11 claims, doesn't know the facts.
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And then he goes on to say, oh, it was Clinton's fault.
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And Clinton admits it.
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Oh, give me a break.
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Of course Clinton was protecting bin Laden.
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They're all owned by Saudi Arabia.
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There's something really interesting that I noticed when I was listening to this, and
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that is that like, he doesn't accuse people of being owned by China like he does now.
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He accuses everybody of being under the Chinese payroll.
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Yeah, well now it's a, they took over for the Saudis.
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That is basically how it sounds if you go back and you listen to this.
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Strangely enough, that was a very peaceful transition of power.
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He, I mean, he, he talks about Saudi Arabia in the same way.
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I mean, not, definitely not the same way as he talks about China now, but like in terms
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of who owns the globalists, who's running it, he's like, Saudis bankroll, they own,
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they own Clinton and Bush.
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And you know, like, oh, okay.
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You let that drop pretty quick.
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I mean, it is, it is kind of also in a way accurate in saying that many of these politicians
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can be bought off by many different people at the same time if they would like to, you
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know, I mean, obviously he's full of shit about all of that, but it does maybe point
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to a deeper truth, Dan.
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Um, no, I mean, not a deeper truth.
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I think, I think anytime there are special interests that have undue influence on our
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political process, that's something that should be, we should be careful about.
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Um, but no, I don't think there's an underlying truth to what Alex is saying.
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I'm pretty sure Scalia's family is right.
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I think Alex is choosing enemies based on convenience.
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That could be true, Dan.
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Much like Bill Gates is part of the 12 and then he's middle management, he's also part
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of the ruling elite group of 12.
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There is that, there is that.
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So Trump has come out and he's been talking some shit about JAB because he's in the primary
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against JAB and he talks about how your brother let 9-11 happen, you stupid asshole.
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Fuckers.
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Um, and Alex believes this to be like expert gamesmanship.
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Great.
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Trump is just laying out the facts, baiting them to come and attack him as a 9-11 truther,
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and they just start hammering the daylights out of them.
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The guy has my respect totally now and is in incredible danger.
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He is incredibly bold and he's in 10 times the danger I'm in or Ron Paul or something
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like that.
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I mean, he is incredible.
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And so are people like Matt Drudge and Clarence Thomas.
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So, um, yeah, um, what happened there?
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I mean, Trump didn't expose 9-11.
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I don't think he did.
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The way that Alex is presenting this is like, yeah, so he's talking, he's talking this shit
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and then they're going to call him a 9-11 truther and then he's going to prove himself
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right on the grandest stage of them all.
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That didn't happen.
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No, none of it happened.
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None of it ever happens.
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Everything that they say is going to happen doesn't.
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The only thing that happens is the erosion of rights for the rest of us.
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So Trump though, better than Bernie.
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What's interesting about this is that until fairly recently before this, Alex liked Bernie.
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Yeah, of course.
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Because he was like with the Pauls.
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He helped to audit the Fed.
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Yeah, he was one of the only people who was interested in like Fed reform.
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Yeah, totally.
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And yeah, so Alex, Alex in the, like a couple of years before this, a year before this,
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you'd say like, hey, you know, like he says he's a socialist, but you know, he's got some
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good stuff and he hangs out or talk to Rand Paul.
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Of course.
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It's like, okay.
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Well, he conveniently forgets all of those problems that he has.
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Now, now he fucking hates Bernie.
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Well, of course he hates Bernie.
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And should tell you that Bernie did not have a job until he was 40.
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He was fucking mayor when he was nine.
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Shush.
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He was elected mayor when he was nine years old.
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Not important.
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He was screaming.
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Didn't have a job until he was 40.
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Alex conversely.
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I'm sick of the 1% taking over this planet.
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Yeah.
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Alex Jordan.
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Yes.
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Mike down for this.
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Okay.
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Alex was forced into child labor at the age of 12.
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Okay.
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You know, Levin says a lot of good things.
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And I don't want to sit there and be enemies with mainline conservatives because they're
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a million light years better than Bernie Sanders, who it's now emerged.
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Never had a job till he was 40.
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I mean, I'm 42.
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I had a job when I was 12.
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And I remember saying, there are child labor laws, dad.
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You know, I need to go get a job during the summer.
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I already mow some yards and stuff.
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And he said, he goes, that's a bunch of baloney.
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You go down to the local Marina, which was a mile from our house.
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We live in a Lake.
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And you go ask those old guys in there and tell them you want a job.
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You'll work for whatever they give you.
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If you actually do the job, you'll get a raise.
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And if you actually keep doing it, you'll have a job there.
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Years later, it'll be a manager.
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And by the time two years had passed and I'd worked at the Marina during the summers, they
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were actually trying to hire me to be a manager at the Marina.
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When I was like 14, a manager, some of the boat stalls and stuff, keeping them clean,
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cleaning boat stalls at 12 for an hourly wage.
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When you don't want to be doing that.
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And your dad says, bullshit, get down to the Marina, clean that stuff up, and they'll give
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you a raise.
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Man, that's good stuff.
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That's good stuff.
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I love it.
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Alex's response is totally right.
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There are child labor laws.
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Undocumented ignorance are stealing our jobs.
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The nine year old should be stealing our jobs.
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Put them down in the Marina.
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It's about what, is it going to be cold again?
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No, that's dirty down there.
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Nothing's cleaner than a Marina.
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Didn't you think about that?
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Nothing's cleaner than a Marina after a 12 year old mops up.
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Yeah, absolutely.
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God, that story is not uplifting, Alex.
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That's a bummer.
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I was 12.
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I mowed some lawns and my dad said, fuck you, get down there and get a job.
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You'll be a manager by the time you're in seventh grade.
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I'm sick of the 1% exploiting us Marina laborers.
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We've been fighting for unionization for 20 years now.
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Alex was a scab at the Marina.
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Alex was a scab.
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Oh man, what a fucking loser.
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So Alex, you know, like I would say that my sense of him is that what he does is he gets
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on air and he just says bullshit.
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Sure.
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Because that's what I experience from listening to him is just a guy who gets on air and says
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a bunch of bullshit.
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I think I would agree with you.
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Yeah.
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And he's kind of like just by instinct and knee jerk reaction, kind of just make stuff
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up for conspiracy benefit.
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And, you know, during his deposition in the Sandy Hook lawsuit, he did say that he had
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a bit of a psychosis that he developed where he just thought that everything was fake.
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He got into that.
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But he should tell you that that's not actually true.
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Oh, okay.
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I don't just default, come out on air and say that something stinks, you think I'm happy
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that there's about a 98% chance they killed Scalia?
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You think I want to be the one that breaks it?
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You think I want to be the one that runs over the top?
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Totally.
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The first one to go up against the machine gun nest.
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But I will do it.
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And I'm telling you this in case something does happen to me.
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I need other people to step up.
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It's the only way to save your family.
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Whoa.
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All right.
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Okay.
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That feels familiar.
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All right.
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Okay.
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If they come after me for this blockbuster Scalia news, they'll kill me.
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Yeah.
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And then they'll come for you and your random listener.
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Yeah.
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Okay.
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Yeah.
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I would say that Alex absolutely needs this to be a conspiracy.
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I think he would love it.
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Because I will say that the idea of Antonin Scalia dying of old age or a heart condition,
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natural causes, Alex can't do shit with that.
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No.
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And it's unfortunately a very reasonable thing at the time.
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Yes.
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100%.
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And yeah, Alex is lame in terms of news and broadcasting and everything.
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Like a tragic event, like someone dying or however you want to look at the event.
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A normal, maybe sad, maybe newsworthy event that just happens.
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Yeah.
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There's no spin to that.
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Nah.
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There needs to be a villain.
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There needs to be someone who you can yell about.
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Scalia's family.
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Someone needs to be aggrieved.
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They murdered him.
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Yeah.
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And they aggrieved his Alex.
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Yeah.
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Or else there is just no way for this to be processed by the right wing media.
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Absolutely.
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So yes, Alex, I do think that you come on air and say bullshit.
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And I think you do want to.
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I think it's a very lucrative thing to do.
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You need to.
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Exactly.
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You know what?
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I would probably think much less of him if he didn't just like...
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I mean, he's got people who have his back who are saying the same things.
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Sure.
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Who are experts.
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It's all over the place.
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Michael Savage says, looks like he was murdered.
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Oh, what does Michael Savage know?
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You know, he's just made billions of dollars in real estate and nutraceuticals and is the
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all time best selling author and pretty much launched the entire organic food movement
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under another name, another gnome to plume.
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What does a guy with probably a 200 IQ know?
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Let's not listen to him.
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Let's not listen to Alex Jones, the kook.
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What does any of that have to do with whether or not Michael Savage could tell from looking
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at news articles if Scalia was murdered?
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I mean, if you've got a 200 IQ, you can solve mysteries from afar with no information, Dan.
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Even assuming everything that Alex said is accurate.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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Let's not listen to Michael Savage.
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He likes organic food.
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Yeah.
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Okay.
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You've given me a lot of qualifications and yet none of those was murder investigator.
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Yeah.
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That would have been a really good one.
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If you had been like, he has a 200 IQ and also 20 years in investigative experience.
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That's a whole different story.
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Yeah.
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Matt Locke is based on...
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Who's a detective?
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I can't think of any detectives.
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I'm telling you, murder she wrote.
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Stabler.
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Stabler.
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Benson.
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You can't think of Poirot?
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Oh yeah.
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Alex, he doesn't like the Europeans.
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No, that's true.
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Would not like to be Belgian.
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No Sherlocks, no, none of that.
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Absolutely not.
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So Alex is appealing to Michael Savage, thinking that it's possibly murder.
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And he's sick and tired of people thinking that he himself, Alex Jones, is a kook.
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Because he has the best sources.
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All right.
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Well, one of them is Michael Savage, so that's not good.
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Well, yeah, but I mean...
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When CBS and the Sydney Morning Herald call me a kook and a nut and, oh, he's...
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Do you have contacts that eat dinner with the Supreme Court justices
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and that say that total tyranny is coming in 2016?
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Yeah, probably.
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Coming after everyone?
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It's my drudge.
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Oh no, you don't have those contacts.
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Do you talk to three former heads of Army Special Forces and people above that?
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Do you have the former head of psychological warfare for the State Department on?
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That's Steve.
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Over 37 countries.
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Do you live in the real world?
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Do you have Green Beret commanders?
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Delta Force people in studio on air that admire your work?
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No, you don't.
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You don't have anything but dishonor and the fact that you're slat jaw scum.
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I think this is really fun because I can tell who almost all those people are.
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Yeah, yeah.
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All those people are dumb-dumbs.
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Those aren't real sources.
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You know, what he doesn't understand is that, yes, part of the job of a journalist is cultivating
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sources who are near the primary people that you're talking about.
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So when you say like, oh, do you know people who eat dinner with Supreme Court justices?
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Probably if that's what they cover.
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That was Matt Drudge and Alex has said that he's only talked to Drudge that one time that
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you showed up at studio and gave that interview.
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But he wasn't seen.
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And now Matt Drudge is on the outs with the Trumpian world.
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Ooh, Drudge killed Scalia.
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Could have been.
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That could have been.
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Um, so yeah, we get Steve in there.
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You got the Green Beret, I think is Matt Bracken.
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Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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Uh, it's just like, who cares?
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Stuff's so stupid.
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All your fucking experts are idiots.
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You know what's wild?
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What?
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No Lieutenant Colonels.
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No, no.
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He should have dropped in like, I know 300 Lieutenant Colonels.
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I think that a lot of those military ranks and stuff that he does, like Chiefs of...
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Sure, sure.
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I think that's just on the fly.
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They're very fungible.
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Yeah, you're in the military.
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So today you're a second Star General.
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It's just random.
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Yeah, I suspect.
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Yeah.
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Anyway, uh, Trump, Alex says that he's, uh, he's on a suicide mission to save America.
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Of course.
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But you know, he's also a little bit of an egomaniac.
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Yeah, that's true.
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And sure, you can call him an egomaniac and the people that have assessed him say
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he's a good egomaniac and he's the type we need.
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Uh, do what now?
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And they just admire him so much.
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And these are high level government people you can put two and two together, CIA, you
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name it.
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And I mean, the last generation that actually overthrew governments actually did stuff on
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the ground.
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Didn't just play around with a bunch of NSA spy gear.
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That's Steve again.
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Yeah.
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I, I really don't understand why you're taking the overthrow governments as a point of
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pride here.
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You don't, you, the governments that Steve Pacino quote unquote helped overthrow, he
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liked, right?
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He should be against...
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Whatever.
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The thing that I really enjoy is like going back and listening to this, like Alex is so
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simple and kind of dumb that like he, he, in the same way that like characteristic phrases,
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epithets are used in like Homeric poetry, like the Iliad or the Odyssey, Alex does the
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same, like overthrows countries.
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That's always Steve.
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Sure, sure, sure.
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Always.
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That is a signifier.
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That is a rage-filled pacenic.
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Yeah, exactly.
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Sing Muse, rage-filled pacenic who took over countries and killed Aldo Moro.
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Agamemnon, Melania Memnon.
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Mm-hmm.
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Uh, yeah, I think that's really fun because you can just go back and listen to this and
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be like, oh, I know what you're talking about.
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I know what you're doing.
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Yeah.
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Your friends are dumb.
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Anyway, Alex gets to yelling here and it felt really like, this is, this is like, what,
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like I, uh, spoiler alert.
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All right, fine.
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Sure, sure, sure.
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This is going to lead to an ad pivot.
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Okay.
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But I felt so much more like, you know what you're doing.
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This is better than present day.
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Okay.
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The only reason I get so many of the leaks and so much of the Intel, the good Intel is
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because people know I've been around 20 plus years.
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They know where I came from.
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They know who I am.
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They know who my family is, that we're as American as it gets continually committed
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to this country and we will never sell out anybody.
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We will never screw over little people.
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We will never oppress people.
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We will fight for freedom until the death.
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And that's it.
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Now, who else is going to join us in this fight?
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That's what I'm asking you right now, because this isn't a game.
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We have succeeded in waking up a lot of people, but we've not yet removed the globalist
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and we're far from it.
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And this is a serious battle.
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I want to get into the rest of the 9-11 news and back in the Scalia, I haven't even got
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into it yet, but before I go any further funder operation right now, that feels like that
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feels more like that's Alex's wheelhouse yelling about the America and the battle.
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It doesn't feel near.
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I mean, it's gross, but somehow it doesn't feel the same gross.
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No.
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Maybe it's the lack of demon.
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Sure, there's no demon in this.
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Satan did not specifically kill Scalia.
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He is leaving it open for human actors to have possibly done it on their own.
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Yeah, there's no demonic nonsense, there's no everything goes back to China, everything.
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The show makes more sense.
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The show makes more sense.
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It feels more grounded in reality.
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In the same way that everything is nonsense and crazy, the Trumpian influence has made
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everything insane, it's made Alex pretty insane too.
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It makes more sense in February 2016.
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Totally.
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So I just can't get the idea of Alex Jones in that drawing room murder mystery bringing
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everybody, I've gathered you all here at this dinner table to eventually solve the crime
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with all of you.
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With Poirot?
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And it was you!
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If you're going Poirot, then it's, I mean, spoiler alert for the murder on the Oren Express.
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Sure.
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Alex could be Poirot in that because the solution is everyone did.
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Yeah, that's true.
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According to Alex, everyone's a globalist.
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That's true.
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I was thinking more Nick and Nora where there's about three different red herrings until somebody
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just randomly pulls a gun.
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And we now get to why we ended up doing this episode.
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This is what takes a little bit of the randomness away.
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Oh my gosh, Larry Nichols, the big Clinton insider, who knows a lot of the top folks
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in Washington on record, and the Clintons have said even the New York Times, they're
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scared of Larry Nichols.
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I figured I needed to talk to him to see what he knew about Scalia's death.
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And I don't know if he's going to get into this on air yet, but it's just over the top
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stuff.
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And I wish I didn't even have to know all this.
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So Larry Nichols is who Alex gets to comment and have some deep insights on the death of
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Antonin Scalia.
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And one thing I want to make abundantly clear before we get into anything.
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If you listen to that clip, it's clear that Alex is referencing something Larry has told
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him off air.
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Oh yeah.
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Alex and Larry will go out of their way to pretend that they did not talk off air, but
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Alex is very clearly saying that they did.
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Did Scalia die on a full moon?
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Because that is when witches have their greatest power.
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I know this.
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I know this for a truth.
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Yeah.
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So it only makes sense that you would call Larry Nichols.
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You gotta call him.
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You gotta call Larry Nichols.
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So one thing that's made me really sad lately is in the present day, Larry Nichols just
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passed away not too long ago.
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Yeah.
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And I'm not sure if it happened on some episode that I didn't see or maybe during his marathon
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at like three in the morning, they did a 21 gun salute to Larry.
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But I haven't heard hide nor hair of rest in peace Larry Nichols, any kind of memorializing.
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I'm sure on some weird YouTube channel that I don't know of and put on by someone I've
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never heard of before, someone is eulogizing him in some meaningful way.
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Somebody had to have.
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Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
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But I know that I've touched on this a tiny bit, but I really resent it.
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It really bums me out.
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It does to me too.
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Yeah.
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I was the one who texted you earlier that we have to memorialize Larry Nichols.
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It feels weird to me for somebody to have such an outsized impact and to go with no
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fanfare.
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Yeah.
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And I don't want to turn this into some kind of thing where we're making a joke of the
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fact that he passed.
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No, no, no.
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And I don't want to...
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I want to recognize like...
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Scalia killed him.
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I want to recognize him for who he was.
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Yeah.
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He...
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And he mattered.
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God damn it.
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He did!
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Yeah.
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He did!
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Yeah.
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Look, I know...
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He was awful.
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Look, the world as it is, obviously, is...
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Nichols isn't the most famous person on the plane that went down, you know?
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So I get why it's like, if this was a slow news day, maybe somebody digs out, you know,
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like, here's what Larry Nichols did, here's what he ruined, you know, all that stuff.
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But to have nothing from people who are like his friends?
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Yeah.
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Like, if you were somebody who had a couple of good albums and you died the same year
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as Bowie and Prince...
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Sure, sure.
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You're never going to rank in the retrospective, perhaps.
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Right.
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But for our show, we like, look at Alex's stuff.
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And Larry Nichols is such a huge part of Alex's career, his history, from the 90s when the
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the Clintons were actually in play, when Bill was president, and through the times of our
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listening to it, like the 2015 period where Larry's talking about witches.
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Yeah.
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And, like, some of the most memorable things on our show have come from, like...
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I'm actually very sentimental about it, because our very first t-shirt was called Larry Nichols.
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Called Larry Nichols, you know, the note.
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Yeah, it's just...
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Referencing the Wayne Madsen story.
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It's just, uh, it's been part of our mythology since, uh, since damn near the beginning.
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Yeah, and, like, some of the things that have been the most funny
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have been things like when Larry threatened to blackmail Robert Mueller.
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Yeah, yeah, Larry, Larry goes into our Hall of Fame all-time big swings guy.
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Yeah.
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You know, he'll pull it out, he'll pull out a big swing.
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Yeah.
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Obama wants to crash the entire world so he can be king, because if you're the president,
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when everything goes down, you become king.
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Obviously.
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And everybody who's in Congress becomes dukes and duchesses.
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In the secret constitution.
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Oh, man, just hard rice, soft rice.
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Like, listening to Larry Nichols lie to my face about hard rice and soft rice.
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Yeah.
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That's fantastic.
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Adam Schiff goes to Egyptian-themed sex parties.
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It's a run for events.
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Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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Yeah, he brought...
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Big swing.
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He brought a lot of joy in terms of being somebody who's so desperate, so craven, such
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a real shithead, and a sort of transparent liar that it was pretty easy to mock a lot
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of the things that...
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But like you're saying, it's a result of the big swing.
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Yeah.
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And, you know, I will miss that, although there are plenty of episodes from the past
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we could go into for YouTube.
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But I wanted to check in on one of the times that we hadn't heard that Alex called in Larry
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to come up with a big story for a big story.
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And, you know, Scalia's dead.
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And I don't know, maybe Alex couldn't get a hold of Steve.
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Oh, man, this is a sad episode.
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We got dead Scalia.
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We got Larry Nichols Memorial.
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How's Don De Grand Prix doing?
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Bad news.
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Oh, shit.
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Yeah, sorry.
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So earlier in the episode, Alex had said that it was a 98% chance that Scalia was murdered.
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Yes.
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Alex is going to get a downgrade that just a tiny bit.
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Okay.
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Then our reporters from the ground in Southwest Texas on a dangerous mission to go down there
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and investigate the death of Scalia.
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They're not even on a dangerous mission.
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I've talked to some of the establishment folks, and that is people big in the media who were
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at the establishment level, and they are concerned.
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They are concerned, obviously.
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And, you know, folks see this for what it is.
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It's about a 98% chance, 97% chance that he was killed.
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Love it.
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Thank you for being more specific there.
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Alex Jones is a master of lowering the stakes.
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Yeah.
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What is that 1% difference?
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Well, it went down because establishment journalists are only afraid, Dan.
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They didn't confirm it.
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98% chance.
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Let me be clear.
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97% chance.
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Look, I round it up from 97% to 98%, as we all normally do.
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Why split it?
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That was imprecise.
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Imprecise.
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It's so stupid.
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I like it, but it's dumb.
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So Alex plays a little bit of George Strait coming out of commercial.
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All right.
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And, you know, I think he and I both like this.
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All right.
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That's George Strait bringing us in with an oldie but a goodie.
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Amarillo by morning.
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Up from San Antone.
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And we are joined for the next 30 minutes by Larry Nichols.
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Boy, that is just two different shows right there.
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Coming in from breakouts of George Strait.
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He's just in the wrong job.
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Got traffic on the twos.
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Yeah, I know.
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That was great.
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Just roll with that.
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Just keep going.
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Yeah, it's a guy coming in for a talk show that's just boring and nothing's going on
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at the beginning.
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And then we're going to talk to Larry Nichols for a half hour.
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Different show.
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All right, we're coming back from a little George Strait right now.
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Traffic on the 94.
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The Kennedy is moving a little bit slowly.
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But other than that, now we've got noted conspiracy theorist and wacko Larry Nichols.
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Come on in here.
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So you might be asking yourself, what exactly does Larry bring to the table now that the
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Supreme Court justice has passed away?
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Of course.
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What does he know?
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What is the topic?
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What are we going to be talking about?
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He's a tough old egg.
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Uh, and he joins us on Clarence Thomas.
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Uh, you know, is he in danger?
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And I'm just going to leave it at that.
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See what he has to say about it and how that ties into the Scalia situation.
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Now, here's the game that's being played.
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Yes.
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They are insisting that Clarence Thomas told Larry Nichols some inside baseball
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information.
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Yes.
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But Larry can't confirm or reveal that he talks to Clarence Thomas.
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And Alex can't give up the game.
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But he also knows that it's probably bullshit.
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And he wants Larry just to say it.
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It's totally bullshit.
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What is Clarence Thomas doing talking to Larry Nichols?
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I don't know.
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But like the game that they're playing is that both of them need the audience to believe
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all this information is coming from Clarence Thomas, but they can't attribute it to him.
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Well, they can't say that Clarence Thomas said it.
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Right, right.
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So it's a limitation in terms of how they could present things.
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And Alex, I think, actually gets a little bit frustrated with it.
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Well, yeah, of course he does.
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Because it's dumb.
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He's not used to dancing around like an idiot like this.
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Yeah.
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So Larry wants to be clear right out of the gate that he doesn't have any proof of anything.
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Sure, you know, this time yesterday, Alex, I had not talked to anyone and I was cautioning
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everyone, everyone be careful.
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You know, true definition of a patriot.
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I believe Alex is one that seeks out the truth.
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And I wanted to be certain of the truth before I did the program with you or anybody else
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about Scalia.
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Unfortunately, just about an hour ago, both of the information I'm getting, I mean, I'm
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just going to be honest, guys, this thing's starting to wreak eye heaven now.
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I'm not saying, Alex, I have any proof.
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Okay, don't do the interview, then.
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Now, a patriot is somebody who's interested in the truth, and I didn't want to come on
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your show before I knew the truth.
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An hour ago, Clarence Thomas called me, this thing stinks, I have no proof.
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I don't know anything about the truth.
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I have no proof of the truth.
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I don't know what the truth is here, but I'm seeking it out.
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Yeah.
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I'm a patriot, it doesn't matter if I'm right or not.
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Do you notice it doesn't matter if you get the truth, you just seek it out?
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I'm going to do everything in my power to present this as a Clinton murder, but I'm
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a murder, but I'm also going to really stress to you that I can't prove shit.
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I can't prove any of it.
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I can't prove any of this.
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No, don't you fucking dare tell your audience that Clarence Thomas told me this.
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Do not hold my feet to the fire on this.
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Yeah, it's just this dance of, like, Clinton's did it, but also, I refuse to be definitive.
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What are you, a military specialist on CNN?
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Get the fuck out of here.
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We're in a situation with Scalia where this thing's burning out of control.
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Now, who did it? Why did they do it?
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If it was done, all I can tell you, Alex, is usually when it walks like a duck quads
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like a duck, it's going to be a duck.
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And I'm afraid that's where we're headed.
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But let's not forget one thing.
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There are two important things that are going to affect the career, the future of the election
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for the presidency and now the appointment of the Supreme Court Justice.
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Oh, I forgot the last one.
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So you tell me, what does it look like to you?
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Ducks.
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Is it ducks?
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So we have, I don't know the who, I don't know the what happened.
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I don't know if it happened, but if it looks like a duck.
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Probably a duck.
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What if what looks like a duck?
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Darkwing.
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I don't know who, what, or if.
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But if it looks like a duck.
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I like it.
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I like it because he has no bones about it.
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Just like everybody else pretends they have any like proof for it.
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And he's just like, I don't know what's going on.
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I don't know why it's going on.
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Probably murder.
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Probably, it's probably an Arkinside, of course, which is the term that is thrown around for
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the Clinton murders.
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Absolutely proven definitive.
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100% proven.
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Hillary Clinton is one of the most prolific serial killers.
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She is killed and she will kill again.
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Maybe a thousand people.
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Her podcast is just recordings of the murder she's committed.
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Yeah.
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Remember what we used to do, Alex, with the old Clinton days, with the Arkinsides, as
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we called them in the day?
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There was one thing you always did.
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You had to commit a suicide that was impossible or die of death that was virtually impossible.
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But at the same time, who was the only person that benefited?
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Now, look at this case.
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Who are the only people that benefit from Scalia dying?
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Fucking nobody.
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And I'm telling you, it's starting to look bad.
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Starting to look bad for the home team.
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So even if you just take Larry based on that clip, his standard for this being an Arkinside
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fails to be met.
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He says that it has to be like an impossible suicide, which it wasn't.
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So that classic feature of the Clinton murders, not present.
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Well.
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Then there's the question of who stands to gain or, to quote Alex,
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Que bono.
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Hey, smart guy.
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Hey.
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One would naturally think that the Dems are the que who stand to bono, since a conservative
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justice is dead and Obama's president so he can replace Scalia with a progressive judge.
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Oh, those idiots.
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If that were the plan, then looking back, I would have to conclude that no one was interested
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in following through with it.
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That does seem right.
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If there was some kind of a conspiracy that involved the murder of a Supreme Court justice,
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which pays off with an appointment of a new, more liberal justice, it kind of doesn't make
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much sense for the group to be powerful enough to pull off the hard part and they completely
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fuck up the easy, almost procedural part.
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Almost insanely easy part, as we are now discovering.
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What possible explanation could there be for this group to have gone through with the killing
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of Scalia?
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Then, when it's time to replace him, it turns into a congressional standoff.
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The explanation can't be that the GOP opposed the globalists, because at this point, they're
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still very much anti-Trump cretin.
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Sure.
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At the time of this episode, the GOP primary is still ongoing, with Ted Cruz, Marco Rubio,
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Ben Carson, and Jeb Bush all still having active campaigns.
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Carly Fiorina and Chris Christie had dropped out of the race within a week from this recording.
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The GOP had not yet bent over backwards entirely to Trump, and there was a large contingent
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who thought Ted Cruz had a chance, after his win in the Iowa caucus and a competitive showing
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on Super Tuesday, which actually hadn't even happened by the time of this recording.
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What I'm getting at is that at this point, the GOP is still the blue-blood, never-Trump
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Republican Party that Alex thinks is in league with the globalists.
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Mitch McConnell, who spearheaded the blockage of Obama's Supreme Court nomination process,
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wouldn't even endorse Trump until May, and in June, he was quoted in the New York Times
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as being open to rescinding that endorsement.
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Of course!
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If there was anything to the globalist conspiracy to kill Scalia and replace him, then based
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on the political alignments that Alex has established, there's literally no reason why
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McConnell and the GOP should be getting in the way of that plan.
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There's a big hole in the theory of the quibono in this case.
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No one wins.
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Yeah, there's a part of me that wants to respect Mitch McConnell for pulling off
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one of the most blatantly bullshit things that's ever happened.
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But the more I think about it, the more I realize it was just he was playing against
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a stupid opponent.
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Like, all he did was make up some bullshit and got people to believe it.
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He was playing against an opponent who thought there were rules because things do work better
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when there are rules.
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But those were part of the rules.
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They are just willing to accept rules that are made up for them to deal with.
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It's very, it's very pathetic.
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Well, I'm more disappointed with the people who continually allow Mitch McConnell to fleece
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them.
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His transparent bullshit is insane.
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Yeah, it is unfortunate when people just continue to take someone like that seriously.
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Just constantly.
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Yeah.
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You know, hey, look, there's some elements of Scalia's death that maybe could be taken
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as a message.
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Well, his family killed him.
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Well, I don't know if that's true.
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Okay.
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But there was a pillow because he died in bed.
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Yes, there's a pillow.
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There's a pillow.
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And immediately it was reported that it was like on his face.
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But that is not accurate.
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It was just sort of like on his head because he was laying in bed.
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Because he was laying on a pillow.
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Yeah.
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But this is a message.
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Okay.
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The pillows on the face.
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Is that a message to everybody, though, that is awake?
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I think they're trying to let us know.
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I think they're trying to let someone know, Alex.
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And I'm afraid that someone may be Donald Trump.
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That someone may be the other judges on the court.
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Judges you talk to him.
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Yes.
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You know, we can get to anybody.
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Just fucking say Clarence Thomas already.
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Just stop dancing around this.
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So dumb.
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I like the idea that if there was a pillow on his face, it was an obtuse message to people
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who are awake.
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Do you it's because if you're awake, they'll put the pillow on your face.
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If the pillow is under your head, then you're fine.
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No, no, no, no, no.
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It's a message to Trump and Clarence Thomas that we can get to you if you go to an Illuminati
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Lodge in the middle of Texas or something.
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I don't know.
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Okay.
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Anyway, Larry's safe because he's at home.
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Yes.
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And he's got a big old knife with which to fight off the Clintons.
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Okay.
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Every time the Clintons get near power, people are going to die.
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People are going to die.
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This is not the first and this won't be the last.
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You know, it's Alex back here behind me, buddy.
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I got old Betsy, my little 18 inch buoy that I keep with me even here at the house because
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I'm telling you these people play rough.
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Am I saying Hillary ordered him dead?
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No.
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Am I saying somebody actually whacked him?
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No, but from everything I see, somebody's sending somebody a message.
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What the fuck are you saying?
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Am I saying it was a hit?
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But I am saying it was a message.
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Slippery asshole.
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Did it happen?
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I don't even know.
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Is Scalia dead?
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Not important.
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I can't prove it.
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But I can tell you it smells fishy.
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And it's a message.
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It's a message to someone.
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I don't know who.
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Yeah.
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So this next clip starts with Larry.
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I'm just going to diffuse this.
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Okay.
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Okay.
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He talks.
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Also, I want to touch on that last clip really fast before we move on.
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I can't imagine a scenario where an old man in poor health with an 18 inch knife could
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fight off whatever the Clintons are going to bring.
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I mean, I assume we're in a place now where I am assuming they think that Hillary does
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it personally.
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It must be.
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She goes there, she's wearing a balaclava and then covered head to toe in one of those
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plastic things so she can't leave any fucking shit behind.
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I had a really good idea for a product.
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What's that?
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Baklava balaclava.
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It's a balaclava in the shape of a...
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But it just looks like baklava.
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Oh, right.
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Oh, so it's a baklava...
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Wait, it's a balaclava that looks like a baklava.
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It's a mask, but it looks like baklava.
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It's the pattern of flaky dough.
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I thought it was baklava in the shape of a mask.
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Someone's made this.
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I think so.
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Anyway, diffusing this.
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Sure.
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Larry starts this next clip talking about how butts are puckered with fear.
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And then Mike down for this because everything goes very ominously.
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Okay.
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But there are a lot of people, their butts are puckered like mine right now.
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And as a matter of fact, I'm going to walk to my door because right out my door is a
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big black SUV that has pulled up.
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I'm going to walk, make sure that they're not wanting inside this house for something.
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I'll be right back.
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I know what you told me 20 minutes ago.
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I can't stand this.
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I can't stand during this stuff and I'll be able to talk about it.
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So Alex doesn't believe that for a second.
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No.
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Zero.
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Zero.
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If that were true, even if he thought it was even a little bit possible, it would have
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been like, Oh, who do you think it could be?
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Not even that.
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Just, I heard what you said.
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I'm sick of it.
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Yeah.
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Larry's got a van outside.
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And you heard him not move.
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You heard him still sitting down while he said, I'm going to head over to the door.
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Well, I actually am really certain that there's not anything going on outside his house for
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a reason that I'll make clear in a little bit.
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Okay.
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Okay.
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But yeah, so there's a van out there.
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There he goes, apparently, allegedly.
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He goes and looks out there and then the van disappears.
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I would argue he audibly continues to sit.
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Do you know what I'm saying?
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But the van, like it saw Larry coming and then it went away.
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Okay.
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And then it turns out the van makes a reappearance later.
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Okay.
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Saturday morning, and I've only done this like four other times, I called updo and my
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key managers and I said, get to the office now, hell's about to break loose.
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And we were all here for seven hours and the last two had already broken.
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We didn't even know because I was in my conference room and I was actually live streaming saying
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something big is about to happen.
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I don't even know this had happened yet as the SUV back.
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Yeah, that's all right there.
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Let them sit there.
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I mean, as long as you're sitting there and I'm sitting here, I'm not that worried.
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Thank God you got that 18 inch knife.
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They're sitting there and I'm sitting here.
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I'm not worried.
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Sure.
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I thought your butt was very puckered right now.
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Well, no, that was just general.
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That wasn't about the van.
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That was a general pucker.
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Yes.
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And a lot of people have it because of the death of a Supreme Court justice.
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Yeah, of course.
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So Larry quickly makes this van appearing have to do with the fact that he got a call
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from Clarence Thomas an hour before this.
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Right.
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Tell me what it is I just found out an hour, hour and a half ago that makes people be in
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my yard just quick.
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Tell me.
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Well, you told us and I just wish you'd tell everybody else right now.
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I mean, I would if I could.
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I just can't.
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I just can't tell who it was.
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No, I get it.
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But now we know in case they kill you right now, I get it.
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And it's big.
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That's all I can tell you, folks.
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It's big.
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I mean, and you didn't even bother.
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No, you're talking to the Supreme Court justices, right?
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They didn't even bother to cover this up in any reasonable manner.
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I mean, don't you see that, folks?
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They didn't even bother to hide it.
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I mean, this is in your face, Alex.
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So it is a murder and you do know that.
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Sure.
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What are you doing?
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What is the point?
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What is the story?
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Everything.
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Everything. What do you think the story is?
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You pick.
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You know what I like about this?
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I like that Alex is like, Larry, yeah, you told us what happened in case the people of
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that black family kill you.
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Yeah, yeah.
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They're very stoic.
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He's exhausted with the idea of trying to keep this going.
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Yeah, yeah.
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In case they kill you right now, Larry.
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In case they kill you.
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Those guys who are outside your house right now kill you.
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Those totally real guys who are definitely 100% outside of your house.
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Very bored with this attempt at radio theater.
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That's war of the worlds.
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But he's just like, oh, there are aliens outside my door.
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Oh, boy.
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Sure, sure.
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There are.
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Hey, as long as those aliens are out there and I'm in here, I'm fine.
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I got an 18 inch knife that I call Betsy.
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So, you know, I mean, I have to eat my hat.
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Sure.
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Because there's some proof.
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Okay.
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Larry Nichols is with us for holding him over.
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He did on his cell phone, get a photo of the black SUV at his rural home that is backing
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into his drive.
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And then he's up there on a hill pulling out when he comes back out.
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But he was able to get a photo and your Skype's pretty clear.
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Larry, try to hold the photo part, the screen up as close as you can in front of your face
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and then forward towards the camera.
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All right.
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I'm trying to find it again.
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You just took it.
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You lied to me.
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We just saw it.
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You should just took it.
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You liar.
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I know you're not super technical.
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Believe me.
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I'm not telling you what I've done with.
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I was holding it up and showing you shit.
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Delete that.
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Oh, no.
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You just fucking took it.
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At the video of this, how dare you?
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This show is so hilarious.
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Because if you watch it, it's like Alex clearly frustrated in studio.
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And then the video is Larry sitting in his living room, holding a flip phone up to his
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laptop.
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Oh, my God.
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What are we fucking doing?
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This is so funny.
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So Larry can't figure it out.
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And this gets to be a problem because if, I mean, obviously even Larry and Alex realize
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like, no one believes us.
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No one buys this bullshit.
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We need some proof.
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Yeah.
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When I had it.
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Is the SUV still there?
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Yes.
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Okay.
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Get up, get up.
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And they backed up and they moved further down.
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I'm going to take another picture.
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If you can go one second.
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Yeah.
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You know what?
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Go out there.
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We're going to stay with you.
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Dead air.
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Just walk out, take a picture.
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Go ahead.
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All right.
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I know we'll try to drive off.
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Believe me.
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I've known this guy for 20 years, folks.
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He's not BSing.
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He only BSes.
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That's his job.
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Now, if you wouldn't need to say that if I wasn't already convinced that he was only
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being full of shit.
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Yeah.
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If you notice Larry's dog barks.
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Oh yeah.
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There.
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Yeah.
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And what that tells you is that the dog wasn't barking earlier.
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No, no, no, no, no.
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There was a van there.
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People were out.
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It was very threatening.
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The dog had no interest.
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Uh huh.
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Yeah.
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Something doesn't...
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Hey, to quote Larry's feelings about Scalia's death.
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Something stinks here.
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Hold on.
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Suspicious.
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Let me search back through my pictures to find that picture I supposedly just took right
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now.
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I'm not going to come down on it too hard for that because it is a flip phone.
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And those things were really difficult to navigate.
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Oh, that's right.
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He does have a flip phone.
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I forgot.
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Not before the iPhone, but before Larry had an iPhone.
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Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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And so...
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That's fair.
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He was still using a Motorola at the time.
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Yeah.
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So they do eventually flash up what's supposed to be a picture of the van in front.
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But I mean, it's like on a flip phone on a video.
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Definitive.
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You can't tell anything.
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Definitive proof.
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No.
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I can see the plates with my mind's eye.
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Even if it was the clearest picture ever of someone in a van with a gun, I still don't
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think that's proof.
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I don't buy it.
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There's getting images in the bottom right corner.
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Get the fuck out of here.
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Alex is like, I wish I was there.
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I wish I was there to protect you and confront that van.
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Sure, sure.
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Oh, I wish I was there right now.
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And do you have any family that's home right now?
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No, just me.
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Me and you.
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Me and you and the dogs.
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And your bulldog and the millions watching and listening.
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Ah, man, I tell you.
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Well, let's put us a dress out for folks that are in Arkansas right now.
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He gives us a dress out.
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Alex tells, like, truckers who are in the area to show up at Larry's house.
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Save Larry from this van.
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No one buys this bullshit in the first place.
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No, Alex doesn't either.
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No, of course he doesn't.
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I wish I was there.
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Let's see if people around will stop by your house, I guess.
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I wish I was there, Larry.
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I have to act like I care.
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And if Alex, like, sincerely believes that Larry's life is in danger because he's talked
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to Clarence Thomas, who has told Larry that it's a murder, and now there's a black van
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outside Larry's house that's going to kill him, they should not stop the interview for
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anything.
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The only thing that's protected Larry's life is the fact that he's alive.
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All right, Larry, we're gonna let you go. Hope you survive, buddy. All right.
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We'll see you later.
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We gotta check in with the weirdos at a Trump rally.
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I gotta take some calls, Larry.
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Hope you survive this one.
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Good luck.
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But the van, much like the pillow, sure, is a message.
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Okay.
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Who is it? What is this all about?
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You know, here again, they're sending a message to somebody.
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Who knows, Alex? Maybe it's you.
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Have you looked outside your building?
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Oh, we're not really worried about it.
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This is like...
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Uh, Larry, you're full of shit, and I'm not worried.
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Larry, come on, buddy. The game's up.
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This is the most incompetent kind of radio theater.
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There's no drama here.
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Game is up, Larry. Come on.
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We failed.
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You know what sucks, too? I think if Alex were more of a giving partner,
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I think that they could make this work.
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Yeah.
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I think that if Alex were acting actually concerned or scared or anything like that,
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he could really heighten this into being something that, like...
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I don't know. I think Larry is the reason that we're not getting anything good out of this,
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because Larry's just coming with too big a swing with the van and the lies.
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No, it's perfect.
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No, okay, come on.
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Come on.
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If you're trying to be like, I got secret information...
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Of course there would be a van outside.
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Well, yeah, there has to be.
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Of course. It's archetypal.
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It's, uh, you know...
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Yeah, but see, that's where we get back to the, I don't know who did it,
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I don't know what happened, and I don't know if it even happened at all.
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That's not what's gonna get you killed, man.
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But that's what you say in hour one.
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Okay, sure.
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The plan is to basically treat this like a hostage situation,
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where you have taken Alex's show hostage.
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If there's a van that's gonna kill you outside, you have to stay on air in order to stay alive.
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I like that.
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Hour three, that's when you bring in the...
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Well, hold on.
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I was just saying that to stay alive.
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I was just saying I didn't know what was going on to stay alive back at the beginning of the show.
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I see a sequel to Stockholm Syndrome on this one right here.
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Did they make a third speed movie?
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You have to keep your bullshit flying at less than 40 miles an hour, otherwise they get you.
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I hate to say this, because it seems kind of disrespectful to people's reality,
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but this isn't real.
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I could have written this way better.
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Totally.
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If I were a producer at Infowars, I could have been like,
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guys, this is just one tweak away from being interesting.
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Yeah.
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As it is, you guys are just embarrassing the shit out of yourselves.
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Yeah, you gotta sell it.
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You gotta sell it.
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They're not selling it.
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Because the stakes should be enormous.
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Yeah.
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And if you're presenting this as Larry has really,
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really super deep important information that he's gotten from Clarence Thomas,
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but we can't say it's Clarence Thomas, then you have a responsibility to give something.
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And I'll tell you what that thing should not be.
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Just the fake van.
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The fake van is...
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Not gonna do it.
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But it's important.
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It is important.
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It's important as a looming threat.
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Sure.
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You need your A story to be strong, and then the van is a great B story.
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Right, right, right, right.
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It's a great side protagonist.
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Sure.
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Or antagonist, excuse me.
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Sure, sure, sure, sure.
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But you need your main plot to be a little bit more thought out than this.
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You need the actors, Alex and Larry, to be a little bit more invested.
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Sure.
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You need them...
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Alex seems to just be poo-pooing almost the entirety of this.
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Well, I mean, it's really transparent.
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He seems to be looking at Larry like we do.
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Yeah, yeah, there is that.
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But I think, again, that's Larry's fault.
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Instead of the who, what, if, you gotta at least give me if.
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He's not even willing to commit to it was a murder other than being like,
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it looks like a murder.
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Alex needs you to give him something in order to get excited.
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What could the consequences possibly be for Larry fucking Nichols?
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Just say Clarence Thomas said that his family killed him.
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That'd be fine.
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Clarence Thomas found the body.
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Because it's not you saying it.
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It's you saying that Clarence Thomas said it, which is obviously like,
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there's no in court.
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They're like, oh, this is libel or something.
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And it's like, it's Larry Nichols saying Clarence Thomas said that his family
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killed him.
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What are you going to call this libel?
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Why?
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What are we doing?
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Yeah, public figures.
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Yeah, exactly.
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What are we doing?
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What are we doing here?
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And I would say, like, I don't believe that there's an actual relationship
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between Clarence Thomas and Larry Nichols that needs to be protected.
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Clarence won't talk to me anymore.
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Just the absurdity of Clarence Thomas giving Larry Nichols a call,
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just by itself, boggles my mind.
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Wild.
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What, are they catching up?
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So, I know that we make fun of the idea that, you know, if you're president,
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when shit goes down, you become king.
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If you're in Congress, you become a duke or a duchess.
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That is something we make fun of, yeah.
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Larry says it a lot.
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Okay.
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This election will be the last presidential election we'll get to be a part of, Alex.
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That actually made me a little bit sad, because it is true.
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Yeah.
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That Larry did not make it to the 2020 election.
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Yeah, that's true.
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He was correct in that that was the last election he got to take part in.
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That's true.
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I'm sorry, Larry.
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It is.
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I'm sorry.
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It is.
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And I'm going to tell you something, folks.
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We've never had more power than we have right now, because every one of the
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politicians that are running for office, remember, a third of the Senate's having to run.
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Every member of Congress is having to run.
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And they know this country's about to come down.
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They know it's about to come down.
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And they want to be there, Alex, when this country falls.
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They want to be a part of the centrist government that's left over.
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And they know if they're defeated this election, they're out forever, forever.
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And then they can be prosecuted.
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So they're cornered rats.
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That's right.
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Yeah.
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And also, the 2018 midterms didn't happen.
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No, they didn't.
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So new other people got in who weren't around in the 2016 election.
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Yeah, but they ran on Make Me Your Duke.
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Those were most of the campaigns that I heard.
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Duke, Duke, Duke of Chicago.
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Dan is the Duke.
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I don't want Dick Durbin to be my Duke.
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Get the fuck out of here.
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Duke Dick Durbin?
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That's annoying.
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That's the only reason.
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He's a fairly good senator, but I can't do Duke Durbin.
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We'll walk through my dukedom.
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Yeah, silly.
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Silly nonsense.
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Yeah.
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So Hillary Clinton, she's gonna run.
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Sure.
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She is running.
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Yeah.
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And I actually was listening to this and I thought how funny it would be if, like,
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Larry passes away and then Hillary Clinton does run.
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Does secretly wind up.
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Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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Does secretly wind up sneaking her way into the president.
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And Alex is like, fuck!
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God damn it!
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I needed a Nichols!
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How tragic that would be.
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That would be sad.
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So anyway, she's got to win in 2016 or else there'll be staggering consequences for her.
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Well, he wasn't wrong.
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You understand, Alex.
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Just win or lose for her.
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Either she gets to be what she's wanted to be since she was four years old.
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The first female president of the United States of America.
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And then the most powerful couple in the history of the world.
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Either they get that or she goes to jail.
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It's not a joke.
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It's not a game.
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You think this is a game?
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And I think if you look at some of the decisions being looked at by the Supreme Court, I think
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you see who benefits by Scalia dying.
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So you're saying it was Hillary.
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Yes.
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I'm pretty sure he's saying it was Hillary.
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Clarence Thomas called him an hour before this show and said that Hillary killed Scalia.
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Yes.
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Ah.
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Yeah, yeah.
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That sounds true.
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That's the sense that you probably would get if you were an Alex Jones listener and you
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were listening to this complete nothing that they're doing.
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Yeah, yeah.
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Because they're not giving any information.
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Just like all this like nutty insinuation.
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Yeah.
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It's not even really speculation.
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Speculation, it's not even like analyzing any of the information involved.
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It's literally just saying, I think it looks bad.
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I don't know why.
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Yeah.
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I don't know how.
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It's creating a narrative and then also constantly saying like, I don't know shit.
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Yeah, exactly.
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I don't know shit.
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This is pointless.
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This is annoyingly pointless.
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It is, but it is, you know, I always enjoy it when you listen to a podcast and maybe
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one of the hosts has learned something new.
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Sure.
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You know, it's like mind blown kind of thing.
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Larry has just learned something.
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Okay.
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Alex, I didn't know about that until this weekend.
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Did y'all know that since 2012, Obama signed a presidential special order and a hundred
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miles on either side of our border to the north to Canada, a hundred miles either side
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south to Mexico, east to the Atlantic ocean, west to the Pacific, a hundred miles inland
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is considered or called what's called a no constitution zone.
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That's official.
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They actually call it.
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Absolutely.
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Yeah.
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Do you know that?
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Can you make no constitution zones?
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Well, here's the thing.
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I think the constitution would expressly prohibit that.
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200 miles from the border is the no flex zone.
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Right.
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That's true.
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That's true.
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You're not wrong.
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So no, I mean, this is kind of a real thing, although it's not like, I mean, it's not the
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same as what they're saying.
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Well, isn't what he talking about the DHS's ability to operate, even though they're a
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federal agency.
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Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
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They have an exemption for search within a hundred miles of the border, which is justified
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by a reasonable distance from the borders of customs and immigration have that kind
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of leeway.
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Now the part-
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Which worked out great for us.
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Thanks Obama.
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I'm sure that's never going to be abused by some other administration that comes in immediately
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after you.
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But here's the problem.
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You're buying into Larry's bullshit.
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Obama didn't do that.
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Oh, he didn't?
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No, he didn't create that.
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You can find an article from Wired from 2008 about how the ACLU was fighting to curb the
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use of this as a police search tool and it predates Obama's time in office.
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It's something that's always existed as an exemption for border searches and it was codified
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into law in 1976, but after 9-11, the definitions of what specific area around the border could
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be this kind of jurisdiction that began expanding.
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It's a real issue.
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It absolutely is.
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And it's something that, you know, someone who Alex pretends to be, this figure in the
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space that he likes to fancy himself should be talking about and pointing out.
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But it's just pointless to pretend that Obama did it.
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Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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That's the game that Larry wants to play, and it's bullshit.
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Also, congressional Democrats introduced legislation to reduce the area from 100 miles to 25 back
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in 2019, but that legislation went nowhere, and Alex would probably say it was just them
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trying to flood the country with undocumented immigrants now, so he'd probably be in favor
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of this 100-mile no-flex zone.
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Oh, man.
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Yeah.
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Nothing means anything.
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No.
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I'm so exhausted.
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No, and the thing that's particularly exhausting about that is the, like, okay, what you're
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talking about, we could both be opposed to for completely different reasons.
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Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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Me and Larry Nichols could both be against this 100-mile quote-unquote no-constitution
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zone, but we should never be able to work together on the issue because we actually
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don't agree.
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Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
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I mean, the thing about that, though, is even if we come to it from different perspectives,
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that does mean that we could just stop it, you know?
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Yeah.
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Like, we could just stop doing it.
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Like, that's the thing that boggles my mind all too often with this stuff is, like, yeah,
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Larry, let's fucking get rid of that 100-miles bullshit.
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I'm with you, so let's all just do that shit.
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But it never, like, it's just one of those political inertia things where it's just,
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like, ah, it seems like too much work.
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Wow.
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Anyway, we have one last clip here from the 16th, and it's Alex fixing the issue that
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is Larry will be killed by these people in that van if they hang up.
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Who will Larry Nichols call?
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What's going to be on Larry Nichols' note?
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Call me.
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Stay in contact.
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We're going to have us on speed dial.
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We're going to keep the Skype connected, and we're not going to let them know when it's
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getting turned off by my friend, and we're going to stay in contact, and you'll be back
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with us tonight.
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The minute you have the info, let us know.
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We'll tape it for the nightly news.
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We'll get it out instantly because, yeah, they've got their operatives and other people
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their wind ups that they've actually got lined up here in town.
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And believe me, we've got some of the same issues you've got, but it'll take them a while
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to activate those people.
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Just keep it up and God bless you.
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And as you know, folks, I still got a pile of damn medicine I got to get, and I got nothing
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to get it with.
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So I'm embarrassed as hell.
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Yeah, you've come home for 20 years.
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Never asked for help.
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But you're broken and fighting cancer.
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Nichols live at AOL.
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You got bigger issues, man.
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You got a van out in front of your house.
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You can't.
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Hey, man.
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It makes me a little sad.
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Just because I'm five minutes away from death doesn't mean I still can't plan for the future.
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Fair enough.
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So he's not on the nightly news on the evening of February 16.
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And the next time that Larry's name shows up in the episode descriptions for Alex's
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show is the 24th.
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And this is the next time that Larry was on.
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And I wanted to know what the fuck Clarence Thomas told him.
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Sure, sure, sure, sure.
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Because I listened to that whole thing and there was nothing.
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There was just a van.
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No, nothing.
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Yeah, nothing.
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Going to our guest, Larry Nichols, Clinton insider, doesn't need any introduction.
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I've been interviewing him for 20 years.
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Been on there 21 years.
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And he's the constant Clinton insider, the Clinton Chronicles.
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All of it couldn't have been done without him.
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So Larry's on.
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Let's talk about it.
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Let's talk about this information.
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Now, I know early on in the Clinton administration, they tried to destroy certain people that
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were being nominated to the Supreme Court.
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That's when Nichols got to know them.
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And Nichols became an early source on the internet for a lot of folks out there.
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And he's battling cancer right now and obviously needs your prayers.
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That's another issue.
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But one reason he hadn't been on this the last few days.
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Also, it took him a few days to get back in touch with this person.
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Okay, so Clarence Thomas is tough to get a hold of.
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Sure, I imagine he's busy being a Supreme Court justice and not asking any questions
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and in general trying to destroy the world.
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Yeah, so I mean, hey, the first appearance was February 16th.
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We're now at the 24th.
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Sure.
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You know, we're a good eight days later.
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Larry has gotten back in touch with Justice Thomas, who they refused to just be up front
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about.
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No, hey, no, it could be any Supreme Court justice.
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Any of them.
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Any one of them.
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It could be Roberts, why not?
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So they needed Larry to come back on, Alex did.
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Sure.
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Because the audience, naturally, and I completely agree the audience's reaction based on my
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listening to the 16th episode.
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What the fuck is he talking about?
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That's a good question.
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We need to know the information.
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Please.
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Hope you're taking care of yourself.
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Thank you for coming on with us.
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Obviously, people have been calling, emailing, tweeting.
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Alex, where's Larry Nichols?
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When are you going to tell us what the Supreme Court justice said?
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When are you going to tell us what happened?
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Well, you've been busy and weren't ready to comment.
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You still say this person now that you talk to doesn't want to have what they told you
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discussed, but let's start with the black sedan last, what was it?
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Last Wednesday that was out of your driveway that would drive away every time you went
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out there.
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But you got photos of it driving away.
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Yeah.
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So we come back and it's like, Clarence Thomas told me I can't talk about anything.
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We get no information about it.
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But hey, guess what?
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Let's talk more about that van that's now a sedan.
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Wow.
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Yep.
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Yep.
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This is halfhearted.
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This is halfhearted.
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No, but it's yes.
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Yes, it is halfhearted, but it is double hubris because it's too much.
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It's comical.
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It's comical.
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Larry Nichols was supposed to come on and give Alex some big scoop or at least take
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the heat for some kind of a bullshit narrative.
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Something.
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Yeah.
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And all this buildup of Clarence Thomas called you.
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It was good.
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It was set.
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The foundation was there.
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Larry refused to play ball.
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Land the plane.
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All you got to do is land the plane.
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Look at that van out there.
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Isn't that scary?
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Yep.
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And now that becomes the whole thing.
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Yeah.
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All we can go back to is, hey, what about that van?
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What are we doing?
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Do you want to know about that van?
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Sure.
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Well, technically what that was was Homeland Security.
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Technically.
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They told the police here that they had no jurisdiction over them and they can do any
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damn thing they wanted to do and pretty much let them believe that I had a one way ticket
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to Gitmo and what that meant.
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I have no idea.
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And Alex, if they want me to drive Conway, Arkansas, I've never hidden it.
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Come on.
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Let's do what's got to be done.
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Just don't bore me to death.
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I think a lot of it has to do Alex with and how I end up in the middle of this junk Alex.
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I never can figure out, but you can't do a thing with you.
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Make it up.
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I was working.
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You make it up.
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That's how you get up there.
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I love that moment for two reasons.
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One is the, let's do what we got to do.
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Just don't bore me.
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Just, hey, kill me or don't kill me.
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I'll bore you.
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Cocky cocky asshole, which I love.
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But then the, how do I find myself in the middle of these things?
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It's just that moment of record scratches.
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You're probably asking how I find myself in the middle of those things.
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You're probably asking how I ended up becoming entrenched in Clinton conspiracy theories.
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Well, it's because I made up a bunch of bullshit.
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Hey Khalid, how do you like being here at Gitbo with me?
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I do like that.
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Like, uh, they said that I had a one way ticket to get, but whatever that means, you know what
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that means?
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What do you mean whatever that means?
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Yeah, come on Larry.
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Um, so yeah, there's no, uh, there's no, uh, uh, spelling out of what was going on.
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No, we got to get to other stories.
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Now Alex, I got another bit of news for you.
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Yeah, the Republican hierarchy, the establishment, they have decided to forgo fighting Donald
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Trump.
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They're not going to fight him.
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Wow.
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Wow.
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Wow.
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So, uh, it's not quite what you think.
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Uh huh.
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They're not going to fight him, but at the convention they're going to fuck him.
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Oh, okay.
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That makes sense.
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There's going to be a contested convention and Trump's going to get screwed at the convention.
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That's the story that they've got going on.
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Yeah.
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It's pretty boring.
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Uh, and, and, and far more interesting is Larry trying to rationalize why Obama hasn't
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just put in a Supreme court justice.
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He, I mean, he's a dictator.
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Sure.
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He's a tyrant.
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Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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Um, obviously based on every characterization that they've ever had of Obama, it's been
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eight days since the last episode.
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He should have decreed it the moment Scalia died.
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The only reason the Republicans are blocking the hearing or give the sense that they're
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blocking the hearing is to get them through this election cycle.
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Once the election cycle is over in November, they fully intend to address the situation
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with Obama and put in a Supreme court justice before the next legislature or the next Congress.
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And that's why Obama keeps saying in due time, people want it now.
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He's going to wait till after the election.
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He's going to wait.
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Which shows there's a deal going on behind the scenes.
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Exactly.
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That's what I try to tell people.
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They're not two teams, Alex.
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There's not, it's one.
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None of this happened.
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None of that happened.
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Nope.
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Cause they're just making it up.
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Honestly, I think I would have preferred that happened.
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It's an interesting way to rationalize why the GOP is acting like an adversarial party
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when your entire worldview depends on them being the same team.
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It's an interesting way to walk around that.
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Although, um.
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Wrong.
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Yes.
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In every way.
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Yep.
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So they're still talking, uh, I know this was something that they discussed, Larry and
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Alex discussed a bit in 2015 and that was that Obama was going to be King for life.
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Sure.
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Sure.
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Um, they, they discussed that here a little bit.
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If they steal it from Trump, there's going to be civil unrest and maybe that's what Obama
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wants, then he'll trigger it.
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He's got his black lives matter group, uh, thought out, ready to activate.
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You know, that's the thing, Alex, that people need to know.
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We're getting boxed in.
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People can think Obama's messing up.
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Hey, that old boy's pulling every trick he wants to pull.
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He's pulling it and you're exactly right.
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He would love nothing better than for Trump to get cheated out of the election for there
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to be an uprising and then boom, he's now King.
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You don't have to worry about a president.
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He'll be it.
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He'll be King forever.
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And at least until he doesn't want to be King.
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Yeah.
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We know how Kings do that.
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They just get, uh, I'm done.
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You know, this is exactly the situation that Alex describes all the time where it's like,
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I know that's what they would do.
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That's what I would do.
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Where we're like listening to them describe all of the stuff that Trump is actively trying
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to do.
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It feels like he's, uh, there's, but that's one of the things that makes me always be
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very like hyper cautious about thoughts like that.
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It was like, am I succumbing to similar feelings as like what Alex has?
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Sure.
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And if Obama had-
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If he had said I'm going to be president for another 12 years, I think there's a different
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situation.
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Won't that really piss people off?
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Yeah, exactly.
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Like, what are you talking about?
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Yeah.
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It's not similar at all, but it's, you have to check in on it, you know, because of that.
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Right.
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And the other thing that's really interesting here is like, you hear this and Alex is like,
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Obama's got his black lives matter.
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It's like, it's the exact same thing.
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This is so four years in the past, but one glaring difference.
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Alex didn't know about Antifa.
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No, that's true.
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That's true.
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Even though he's known about Antifa for 20, yeah, 20 years.
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Yeah.
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No mention of that or demons.
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It seems like that would be really important if he knew about Antifa and knew that they
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were teamed up with Black Lives Matter and the devil.
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Right.
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He should have warned us all the way back in 2016.
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Nope.
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Plan B is already about to be started.
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What if he had told us in 2016 about Plan B?
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There's not even a Plan A.
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We had four years to help out with Plan B, and now here we are.
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We're screwed.
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Yeah, so we have one last clip here from Larry's appearance on the 24th, and I will say that
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my sense from listening to these interviews is that Larry wants the audience to believe
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that Hillary Clinton is behind the murder of Antonin Scalia.
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Yes, that sounds right.
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That seems to be his main point.
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He's a little one note when we get down to it.
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Everything winds up getting back to Hillary Clinton trying to kill people.
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There's another clip.
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I wish I would have cut this clip, but there is a point where Larry seems to think that
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it's going to come down to him versus Hillary.
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Like a Matrix situation.
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Hillary is Agent Smith, and he's Neo, and they're going to do battle.
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There's a hundred Hillarys.
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Yeah, exactly.
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Okay.
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All right, that makes sense now.
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It's just going to come down to me and her.
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I do like that belief system.
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So I think that that is what he's pushing as the thing that he wants the audience to
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believe the Clarence Thomas had told him, but he doesn't want the responsibility of
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having to be on the hook for any of those things.
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Sure, yeah, yeah.
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So it really makes me pissed off when he says something like this.
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All right, let me say it this way.
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As you know, Alex, I have never said the Clintons ever actually killed anybody or ordered them
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to be killed.
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Now, talking about Hillary, would she be the kind of person that would have no trouble
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saying off the guy?
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Hillary would do it in a second.
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In a second.
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That's so unbelievable.
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The thing that I've made my entire career out of saying.
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You know, I've never said anything like that.
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You know, I would never said that Hillary killed anyone or ordered any assassinations,
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but I know from her temperament that she wouldn't be against it.
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Such an asshole.
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Why would you do that to us?
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Why would you abuse us in that way?
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What an asshole.
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Oh man, what a dick.
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What a world-class dick.
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Yeah, yeah.
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Anyway, I don't care to mock the dead, but I do think that there's something still very
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fun about celebrating the life and career of somebody who was this transparent of a
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dick.
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And yet somehow made a career out of it.
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And honestly, I believe, I mean, we talked to Larry.
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You talked to him a couple times, and I've listened to a shit ton of him on various shows,
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and I don't think he would have a problem with us laughing at him.
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No, absolutely not.
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Nuh-uh.
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I think if I were him, I would expect this.
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Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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No, I think based on our conversations, this is absolutely something that he would delight
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in.
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Probably.
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Like when we talked to him and he was spitting his bullshit, you could tell he had a bit
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of a smile on as we were like, you're full of shit.
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And he was like, you can believe what you want to believe.
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And it's like, yeah, we both know that we don't believe that.
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Neither do you.
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Stop it.
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So, I mean, no disrespect to his family members who survived him.
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And I don't want to piss on a grave or anything, to use Alex-type terms.
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I mean, yeah.
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I also think that I want to take a moment to recognize the brand of bullshit that has
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come into our lives thanks to him.
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And it is a momentous moment, whether Alex will accept it or not.
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Sure.
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And maybe coach Dave.
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I bet Dave Daubenmire did an episode.
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You think so?
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Well, I mean, he had Larry on a bunch of times.
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Yeah.
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Ooh, I should go check.
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I don't know.
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This is one of those things where it kind of feels to me like this is the cutthroat
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world of right-wing propaganda, is once you stop being useful, whether you're alive or
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dead, you're just gone.
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I worry about that, too.
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You know?
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I worry about that, too.
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And the reason that I can't make any kind of definitive statements is because there
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are episodes that I haven't listened to.
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Sure, sure.
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There's a decent chance that two minutes of one of them is Alex saying, rest in peace,
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Larry, or something.
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But based on the importance of Larry Nichols to Alex, that's not good enough.
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There should be...
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Like, Alex should have commissioned a musical or something about this great guy.
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Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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They should have done a 24-hour The Greatest Hits marathon.
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Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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Or something.
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Something.
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Yeah, it's...
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It's weird that we're not to make fun of his death, or not to mock the family, and yet
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we're like the only people who are really paying attention to it in the first place.
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It seems that way.
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It seems like they're...
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Dealing with it is way less...
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It feels like it's a little infuriating.
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Yeah.
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Why do I care more than Alex Jones?
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This is a problem for me.
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Well, I mean, everyone is disposable, to an extent.
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We saw how Alex will turn his back on folks like Steve or Larry if their momentary brand
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of propaganda isn't what he needs.
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Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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There's so many people who used to be respected experts who now are just not welcome in the
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Infowars sphere, and that's, you know, it's a bummer, it is a bummer, because...
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There's just no loyalty.
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It makes things very transactional.
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Yeah, you know, like with Trump, you know, there's just no loyalty.
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I don't understand why these people constantly think that there's some sort of loyal reward
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that they'll earn.
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They're just going to be tossed aside when they're useless.
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Until they come up with something cool, like Egyptian sex parties, and then they'll come
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back for a minute, and then they'll go away again.
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Goodbye again.
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Anyway, rest in peace, Larry.
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We'll be back.
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Yes.
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But until then, Jordan, we have a website.
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We do.
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It's knowledgefight.com.
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Yep.
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We're also on Twitter.
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We are on Twitter.
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It's at knowledge underscore fight, and at Go To Bed Jordan.
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Yep.
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We're also on Facebook.
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We are on Facebook if you'd like to download, and if you could, please find a local charity
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or bail fund in your area to help out people doing God's work right now.
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Yep, we'll be back.
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But until then, I'm Neo, I'm Leo, I'm DZX Clark, I'm Daryl Rundis.
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I was driving that black van.
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Andy in Kansas, you're on the air.
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Thanks for holding.
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Hello, Alex.
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I'm a first time caller.
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I'm a huge fan.
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I love your work.
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I love you.
