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I'm sick of them posing as if they're the good guys saying we are the bad guys.
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Andy and, Andy and.
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Stop it.
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Andy and, Andy and Kansas.
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Andy, Andy and, Andy.
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It's time to pray.
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Andy and Kansas.
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You're on the air.
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Thanks for holding us.
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Hello Alex.
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I'm a system caller.
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I'm a huge fan.
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I love your room.
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Knowledgefight.com.
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I love you.
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Hey everybody.
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Welcome back to Knowledge Fight.
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I'm Dan.
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I'm Jordan.
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We're a couple dudes.
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Like to sit around, drink novelty beverages and talk a little bit about Alex Joo.
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Indeed we are Dan.
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Jordan.
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Dan.
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Jordan.
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Have you ever had an electrical appliance explode on you?
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I mean, when my house burned down a few years ago, when I went back into the apartment,
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like we were able to go and like see, my oven had like exploded.
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Oh really?
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Yeah.
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It was a really like visceral memory.
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Yeah.
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You've never had anything like actually happen.
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I had a...
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I've had a blender over like, you know, stuff out the top of it because I was using it wrong.
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Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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The blowhole method.
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Yeah, yeah.
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But I don't, I don't know.
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I don't, I don't think so.
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Or at least if I have, it doesn't, it doesn't stick out in my head.
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Nothing like a, ah man, I was, cause I had a toaster oven that my grandparents bequeathed
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me that was from, that was made in like the sixties and I used it two years ago.
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I had just moved in with my partner and it just exploded.
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It just started up on fire.
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I thought everybody had like some experience like that, like a TV exploding or something
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like that.
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Not that I, not that I could remember.
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If it did, it didn't leave a mark on me.
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Right, right, right, right.
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This is not an interesting conversation, so I'm going to pivot the subject and add something
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I want to talk about.
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I think that's a good idea.
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And that is that recently I started playing the new Luigi's Mansion game.
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Why didn't I ask that question?
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Yeah.
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I had a lot of thoughts about it.
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I knew you had just gotten it.
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Damn it.
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So I started playing Luigi's Mansion three and I started playing it.
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It's been very emotionally resonant, I would say.
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Oh really?
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Well, kind of.
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I mean it's very nostalgic because Luigi's Mansion was like one of the first games that
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I played as an adult on like video game systems because I played like Mega Man and the Mario
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games and Donkey Kong Country as a youth, but then there was a little bit of a break
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from video games and like when the GameCube came out, my buddies had it and that Luigi's
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Mansion was one of the launch titles and I fucking loved it.
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I loved running around with the vacuum sucking up ghosts.
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Naturally, yeah.
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It was a lot of fun and I wasn't able to play Luigi's Mansion 2 because it wasn't on a system
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that I had.
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Right.
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And you weren't a Make-A-Wish kid, so you couldn't just get it.
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Yeah.
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Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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I was not in any shape to get a 3DS.
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So I never like was able to play and I was like, I heard that the third one was coming
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out and I'm like, I'm so excited about this.
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And so I got it and I was playing it and I started to realize, I mean it's very aesthetically
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pleasing.
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Oh, no.
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Tell me you're having fun.
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Oh, absolutely.
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Okay.
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Okay, good.
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I was going to say, if this is a negative story, I think I'm going to cry, Dan.
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No, no, no.
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You told me about Luigi's Mansion.
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It's fun.
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I'm enjoying it quite a bit.
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I'm trying to take it slow, you know, like so I don't just play it in a day or two.
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Right, right, right, right.
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There's not a lot of replay value in some games like this.
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Right.
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But it dawned on me as I was playing it, they're like, man, this is a lot about money.
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Okay.
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You're going around this mansion that's haunted and you've got to like suck up the ghosts
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and everything.
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But along the way, you're like banging on trash cans and like, you know, trying to vacuum
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up the walls because sometimes dollar bills will fly out at you in coins.
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And I realized this is a grossly, super money interested game.
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Yeah.
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I remembered the first one kind of like at the end, after you beat the game, it rates
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you based on how much money and gems you found along the way.
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And that determines what size mansion you end up with at the end of the game.
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I am not looking forward to the Jacobin review of this video game.
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I realized like this is, I'd just kind of forgotten how deeply involved finances were
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in the Luigi's Mansion game.
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That's so weird.
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And I was like, this is a strange thing for a video game.
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But then I realized like all the Mario games, you're running around collecting coins.
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Yeah, yeah, of course.
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There's, there is a deep.
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There's something weird about the dollar bill though.
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That is true.
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That's the weirdest thing.
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And the like bars of gold.
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Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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Things that are, but I mean, we have coins in the real world.
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Of course, yeah, of course.
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Direct analogs to it.
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Of course.
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But the dollar bill is still weird to see in a video game.
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You're just not programmed for it.
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Well, because I think that what you're thinking is like someone had to print these dollar
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bills.
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Well, of course.
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But at the same time, those coins have imprints on them that Mario runs around catching, you
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know?
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So like somewhat printed those.
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I want to know, I want to know who's in charge of the treasury in Waluigi game, Luigi's Mansion.
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So far, I've not run into Waluigi.
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I don't know if he's in the game, but I think he needs to be.
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Great opportunity to throw Waluigi into the mansion.
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He's a fucking Stalinist.
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He's going in there.
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He's like, money is for evil.
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It'd be interesting.
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That would be interesting.
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So anyway, that was just a stray thought I had along the way playing the Luigi's Mansion.
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I know a lot about Luigi's Mansion and a ton about Alex Jones.
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And I don't know anything about either.
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And that's the fun we have on this here show that imbalance of information.
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So Jordan, today we're going to be in the present.
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We're going to be looking at November 5th and 6th, 2019 because Alex Jones got buckwild
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did some stupid shit.
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Yeah.
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I have, I even haven't been able to avoid some of the, yeah, it's pretty, it's pretty
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much all over the news.
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As everyone knows, Alex Jones revealed the name of someone he believes to be a juror
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in Roger Stone's trial.
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Right.
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Right.
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Right.
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We'll get into the dynamics of that, the legality questions surrounding it, and why no matter
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what the situation is, he's still fucking stupid.
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And we'll get to that here in a moment, but before we do, Jordan, uh, we've got to take
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a moment to say thank you to some people who signed up and are supporting the show.
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So first, I don't know if this is the celebrity boy.
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I don't know if it's the celebrity.
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It can't be.
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It is.
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No, it is not.
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It is Taye Diggs.
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Next, professional wizard.
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Wizard.
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Next, uh, Jack, thank you so much.
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Thanks Jack fact.
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Next Sarah.
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Thank you Sarah and Sarah.
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And finally, I'd like to say thank you to a couple people signed up on an elevated level.
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We appreciate that very much.
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So Miles, thank you so much.
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You are now a technocrat and Liz.
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Thank you so much.
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also now a wonderful technocrat. I'm a policy wonk. Crikey mate that's
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fantastic have yourself a brew. How's your 401k doing bro? Alright we got to go
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full tilt boogie on this Watson all right? Let's just get down to business. We
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ain't making that money off that heroin. Why you pimps so good? My neck is
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freakishly large. I declare info war on you. Thank you so much Miles and Liz. Yes
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thank you very much. If you're out there listening you're thinking hey I enjoy
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would appreciate it. It would be lovely. So like I said the big news we'll get to as we get to
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it that Alex Jones is trying to meddle in the affairs of the courts. But this is a
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classic thing on the info wars circuit right let's say of course that every
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time there is a big thing that Alex Jones does oftentimes if you watch the
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entire show you find that there's like oh there's a number of other things you
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guys probably should have pointed out here yeah yeah there's a whole lot of
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things that debatably are worse yeah no there we've done that a few times where
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it's like oh Alex Jones caught committing a crime and then in the same
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episode he starts peeing on a chicken and you're like why isn't anybody
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talking about that? Well A's llama is in the studio and he commits treason. Yeah exactly. What are you guys doing?
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Everyone's talking about the goddamn llamas. All right and we'll see there's a number of things that are
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like really important points in his coverage over the course of this that
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have nothing to do with Roger Stone's situation but that's not to minimize
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the Roger Stone thing that is absolutely important you know that's and like I
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said we'll discuss it all. So we're gonna start on November 5th here and Alex
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begins his show searching for the top story. What is the top story? Okay. I don't
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know if I agree with where he lands. Ladies and gentlemen I sat here this
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morning since I got here at 9 a.m. pondering all the news all the clips all
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the guests all the information we were about to be covering and just thinking
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what is our top story because it's more important than just what is the biggest
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news what's the most interesting news what out of this spectrum is most
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important? It's said in advertising if you go with the world's view of
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advertising that perception is reality. Well if you're on 10 hits of LSD and you
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think you can fly like a bird you jump off a 20-story balcony and hit the
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concrete below you're going to die. Now your perception is that you'd spread
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your wings like an eagle, like a phoenix, like a lark, like a crow. This is a man about to commit a crime on a game buzzard food.
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That's the only birds we've got that are gonna be feeding on you. Perception is
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not reality. What actually is and what works and what replicates and what
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succeeds. So what's the top story? Is reality. Life is reality. The universe is
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reality. So his top story appears to be that there is an objective reality. That is big news.
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Oh boy, that was good stuff. Top story today, reality exists. That was good stuff, man. It's been a while. I needed that. I was listening to that and I'm like this show is not gonna go anywhere good.
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If in minute one of his show he's like where do I begin? Well let's establish
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that reality is something that exists. Okay, good. So Alex gets from there now
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that we've established that things are real. Reality, unless you're taking LSD.
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Yes, but no, but then reality is still real but your perception will be
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different than reality. So perception is not reality. But I heard him say that
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perception is reality. No, advertisers say that. Oh, okay. You need to listen. I was stuck on the
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birds eating me. That's where I got into trouble. When the teacher is teaching class, the student
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listens. So Alex goes from there and he jumps to some stories that he's got
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about cartel murders. There have been some US citizens that were killed by
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cartel members. Right, the Mormon ones? Yes. And Alex gets into this story and he
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believes that it's a cover-up and then I'm gonna discuss what my initial theory
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was about that with the caveat that everything I'm about to say is not
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correct. For you at least nine people including six children were killed in an
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ambush by a Mexican drug cartel. This happened in the northern state of
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Sonora. Police believe the attack to be a case of mistaken identity. Members of the
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cartel opened fire on a convoy of three SUVs that were part of the Church of
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Latter-day Saints. There are 13 people missing as of news time. While no
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identities have been released so far, a witness at the scene says some of the
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victims were his family members including his wife's cousin, twin
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six-month-old babies, an eight-year-old and a ten-year-old. The National Police
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and military forces are heading there to defend the area. So that's mainstream
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news trying to whitewash and defend what happened as it was being reported last
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night and this morning. Now they're having to admit, oh it was targeted. They
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were targeted including nine-month-old babies killed at point-blank range after
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they were kidnapped. So when I heard him say that they were targeted, yeah, I 100%
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that he was talking about, there was a story in the New York Post that came out
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that discussed how this group, these Mormons that were down in Mexico, they
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had connections to the Nixxiom sex cult.
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How? What? According to this New York Post story, quote, the outpost Mormon
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community in Mexico is where underlings of the Nixxiom cult leader, Keith Renier,
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recruited young women to work as nannies in an upstate New York compound run by
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the accused cult. So the Nixxiom recruited Mormons. No, they used the
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Mormons to recruit young women in Mexico that would then be sent to upstate New
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York to work at this compound. According to, the New York Post is reporting that
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and that information is coming from a man named Mark Vincent who was hired to
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make a documentary about Nixxiom. So I don't know how much he is a fully
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accurate source, but he certainly had some exposure to the group. That's wild if
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true. Yeah, I'm not entirely sure, but I thought that's what Alex was talking
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about and like I just sort of like, I expected that to be the angle he goes
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down and it's not. So I had this whole thing prepared about why that's stupid
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and then I know I would just have to throw it out because that's not even at
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all what he's talking about. But when you start looking into the case, you see
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that somebody is reporting this connection with the
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Nixxiom. So Alex has to have seen one thing there and now we've got it.
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It seems like it would be a perfect way for him to tell this story. It's like you
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got an angle in here, but it's not and we'll get to what it's actually about
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here in a moment. But after those murders, Trump had a pretty strong but possibly
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too aggressive response. He called on Mexico to declare war on the cartels to
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which Mexican president Andres Manuel Lopez Obrador said, quote, the worst thing
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you can do is have war. We declared war and it didn't work. This is not an option.
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I don't feel like I'm in a position where I can tell Mexico how to
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solve its problems, so I'm not going to try. At the same time, I definitely
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understand Trump's response and it's the sort of thing where you have to take it
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seriously when US citizens are being killed abroad. Now to the extent
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that he might be doing that selectively, maybe you could make an
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argument that that's the case, but I don't really care to make that argument
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as a way to sort of like, ah, what about all these other people who were killed?
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I don't really know if that's a super worthwhile line to go down.
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I don't really know what to say here. I think this is an awful piece of news
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that's come out and I don't particularly care to try and make it anything other
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than that. The tragedy that we need to be doing more to try and avoid having
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repeat. Whatever the best strategy towards that is. I would say that
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probably having a all-out war with a cartel is probably not the best strategy.
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I don't know. I've been alive for 32 years and in that time, I can think of
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America winning every war that it started. I'm pretty sure that every war
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that the United States has been involved in, they have completely won,
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right? Yeah. I think wars are smart. So I had that in my head that's like, oh he's
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gonna get into this NXIVM shit. Yeah. That's right in his wheelhouse. Then he
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starts talking a little bit more and I realize, I'm fucking stupid. Oh, the
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Mormons got killed in a crossfire. No, if you watch documentaries about Mexico, a
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lot of Mormons went down there in the 40s and 50s and 60s to proselytize, you
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know, like missionaries do. And they won't pay tribute to the cartels and they get
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killed. And there's been Mormon vigilantes, not this group in other areas,
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that support the towns and arm the people and there's been documentaries
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made about it. So they were targeted but oh brown people never target white
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people. Oh God, that's, that's, yep, that's, you're right. Because only white people ever do
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wrong, should have taught in the public schools, in the universities. Whites are
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inherently evil. I completely blew it with my initial assumption of the NXIVM
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connection. You know what, that one's on me too. I was thinking he was going
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somewhere else and then now it's just too obvious. Just a fucking race. I was
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like holy shit, there are Mormon vigilantes? There's gonna be a Mormon
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vigilante cartel war? We're not gonna have to worry about getting the
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government involved? No, it's just brown people killing white people, great, whatever.
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One day I'll learn my lesson and stop trying to understand what he might be
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saying and just assume that it's all rooted in his deep white identity
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leanings. That's, I really need to learn that lesson eventually. You know, you just
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don't see it coming. I constantly give the benefit of the doubt that it's about
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something else. Mormons didn't start going to Mexico to
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proselytize in the 30s, it was more like the 1870s. Many of them did go down there
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to do charity and missionary shit, but a whole lot of them also were running from
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the United States where polygamy was outlawed. Mormons have had a very
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healthy presence in Mexico for a long time. In 2014 they reported having 24
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missions and 13 temples in Mexico with over 1.2 million members in their
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congregation in the country. The issues related to the Mormon presence in Mexico
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is complicated, and I'm not sure I can credibly discuss all of those issues, but
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what I can do is say that Alex has absolutely zero reason to turn this into
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a race thing. Even if everything he's saying is correct and that these people
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were targeted by the cartel because Mormons in Mexico have a history of
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standing up to cartels, that still has nothing to do with their race. It would
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maybe have something to do with their religion, but that's not really a fair
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assessment to say that all Mormons are white. While Pew Research put the number
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at 85% of U.S. Mormons being white in a 2014 release, the same is not true
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internationally. It's a pretty common thing to hear from LDS folks that
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conversion rates in Europe and the United States are not growing, and one of
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the only things that's keeping the church alive is Latinx converts, and
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eventually that will be reflected in the U.S. Mormon demographics as well. From
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2000 to 2010, the number of Spanish-language churches went from 377
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to 760. It is a community that is massively on the... Mormon churches. Yes.
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Yeah, specifically Mormon churches. What Alex is doing here is
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equating the Mormon-ness of the victims of this crime with their whiteness, which
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is kind of a racist thing to do. He could make the argument that these people were
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targeted because they were Mormons who were disrupting the
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cartel's ability to operate, and we could talk about that as a possibility. I'm not
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really sure if that's true. It possibly could be. I don't know, but as long as
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he's discussing that as a theory and not proven fact, I would probably just say,
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whatever. Yeah. But that's not what he's doing. He's taking the argument that they
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were targeted because they were Mormons as definitively proven, then swapping out
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white for Mormon in order to take this story of nine murdered U.S. citizens and
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turn it into fuel for his white identity outrage cycle. This is disgusting. It's
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super disrespectful to the victims of this crime, and honestly a very clear
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example of how racist his mind is. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So Alex starts rambling around
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about free will existing. We now know reality exists, and also as an offshoot
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of that, free will exists. And then he just starts talking some shit. Free will
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exists, and so evil exists because we have the power to make bad choices and
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rebel against God and God's creation and the laws of the universe. Now that said,
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Joy Behar is a piece of work. I don't tell this story to name drop or act cool.
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It's actually quite embarrassing. Joy Behar, I was on The View, and I was
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bashing George W. Bush and The Globalist because Bush was The Globalist too. Once
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Obama got in, they got confused. They're so dumb, they think as I was
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bashing Bush and illegal wars and fake WMDs, that I was a leftist. No, no, no. And
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then Obama came in and was even worse. Launched more wars and came after the
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guns even more. I mean George W. Bush signed the assault weapons ban. I would
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have arguments in gun shops with conservatives that didn't even know that.
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Then she had me on her CNN show, a tape show that afternoon, and hit on me. She's
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an older woman even back then. This was like 12, 13, 14, 15 years ago. She goes,
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oh, you're really good looking. What are you doing later? And she's like, I really
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love what you're doing. I was like, you could tell this woman had some fun
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in her life. And I wasn't attracted to her, but it was interesting to still
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have an older woman coming on to me like that. Very interesting. So anyway,
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Alex is mad that Joy Behar on The View said something to the effect of like, you
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know, Beto dropped out of the race and so she's like, you don't tell people you're
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gonna take their guns. Wait till you're in office. That kind of thing. And it's like,
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well, okay. I understand why this would trigger Alex, but she's also a comedian,
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so she's not advancing specific policy as much as she is talking shit
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on The View. That's her job. Yeah. But Alex thinks that she's
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straight-up a think tank writing policy proposals that people just copy and
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paste into bills. Of course. So he's offended at that, so he decides to get on
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air and say that she tried to fuck him. Man, you know, I know a lot of that type
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of dude that's like, hey, name any person and they'll have like a story
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of like, hey man, when I was back then, she came on to me and was like, no, she did not.
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You rewrote that in your memory to make it sound like you weren't a dick.
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It's a possibility that there's that rewriting that goes on, but it's also a
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possibility that like Alex just perceives that to be the case. Oh no, I
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think so. Like maybe every person is trying to fuck him and every man
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wants to fight him unsuccessfully. Yes, absolutely. So that's good. It's a healthy,
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this is a family show where Alex is talking about Joy Behar trying to
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have sex with her 15 years ago as a way of sort of invalidating her, you know?
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That's also another element of it that's really fucked up. Yeah, she doesn't have anything important to say
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because one time she came on to me. Yeah, so Alex gets into now talking about, he
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has like a almost an entire segment of the show, you know, a whole break to
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break rant about how we need to reach out to these brain dead people, these
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people who are against guns and we need to reach out to them. Okay. They're
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all fooled. Okay. And it takes us to a familiar place. They've been
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inducted into a fraud and as they get deeper and deeper, they get more frantic,
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more upset that the fake degrees aren't paying off and the system isn't putting
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them in charge. They were supposed to be the ruling class, the priesthood, but
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instead all they got was student debt. You've got to explain to them that
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they've been abused like someone that signs on to a Nigerian email scam. Oh man.
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And then more they get the first money and then the people don't want to admit
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they've been conned and they sucker them for more money and we could be a generic gambler.
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Sometimes people pay the Nigerians 10, 15 payments because once they're in a
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hundred thousand dollars, they don't want to admit they got conned to themselves
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or their neighbors or anybody else. They're in denial. I think evidence just
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keeps mounting that Alex fell for that. Yeah. Yeah. That's that's the, I didn't
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even know you could go to more than two payments. I didn't, I never knew. I
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thought it was one payment then they went away. They'll come back. Yeah. That's
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weird. That's crazy. Also Alex, I don't know if the Nigerian scam works in such
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a way where they do pay out the first, like the Nigerian, the people running the
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email scam. Not that I know they give you that money, but then they're like, we
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need more money. So what do you just send that money back to them? I don't know.
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It's very strange. Whatever the case, I believe Alex was probably tricked by
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this email. He is so singularly focused on it. Like there's a, there's a very, it's
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strange. Yeah. It's strange. Oh yeah. So Alex talks about those nine citizens who
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were killed in, uh, in Mexico. And then there's another story, but a New Hampshire
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couple that was found dead on like Padre Island, they were found, uh, buried in
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the beach. Um, and Alex is connecting these stories and maybe he shouldn't.
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The fact that a lot of tourists won't go to Padre Island now because hundreds and
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hundreds are coming up missing, including children. But the media tries
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to cover it up cause it's hurting tourism. Well, it's all going to end up
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shutting down anyways, like it's done in Mexico until we stop it. And so
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president Trump has declared war on it.
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That's how these deceptions kill people. They don't want you armed so you can't
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protect yourself. You know, if you're coming down from New Hampshire, I know
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it's pretty safe to go camping in New Hampshire. It's pretty safe to go
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camping in West Texas or East Texas or North Texas. You don't go camping a few
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miles from the Mexico border in one of the most dangerous areas in the world
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unless you want to die. So let me give you a public service announcement. If
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you don't have a gun, get one and learn how to use it. And if you and your wife
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are going to be parked out in the dunes next to Mexico, you better have your
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door locked and you better have an AR 15 or ready to start killing because
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there's a good chance you camp out enough times. They're coming and
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they're going to tie you up and they're going to get your bank codes off your
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credit cards and then they're going to put you down on your knees and they're
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going to squeeze a couple bullets in your head after they rape your wife in
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front of you. But it's okay because they're brown and you're white devil.
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Isn't that sick? That is sick. Daddy, Daddy, you told me this was a family
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show. This is not a family show. Holy shit. So when Alex is talking about
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Padre Island, like I said, Cormac McCarthy. Fuck off. He's talking about
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James and Michelle Butler, a couple from New Hampshire who were vacationing on
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Padre Island and were found dead buried in the beach in texas. He's taken this
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story and is sort of combining it with the story of the Mormons killed by the
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drug cartel and we have a unified story about Mexicans killing white people and
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the media covering it up. As for the media covering up the Mormon story,
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that's absurd. It's been reported literally all over the place. If Alex's
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complaint is that the media isn't reporting the story as being related to
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his fantasies of a race war, then I guess he's going to have to just deal
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with that. They have reported that the police have said that it's a mistaken
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identity situation and even if the reporter suspects that that's not the
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whole story, they have journalistic ethics to consider and
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uphold. Real journalists can't just throw around feelings and conjecture like, hey
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the police say this, but I personally don't believe it. That's Alex's job. I've
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got a hunch. In terms of the butlers from New Hampshire, Alex is very
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likely completely wrong about that story. The couple's bodies were discovered on
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October 27th and as of the time of this recording, the case has not been fully
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solved. But on November 4th, police released pictures of persons of interest
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in the killing. They were caught on surveillance cameras when they tried to
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cross the border in the butler's car, which they had stolen. The driver of the
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car appears to be a Caucasian man who the police identified as Adam Curtis
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Williams when they put out a warrant for his arrest on the 5th. The warrant is for
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suspicion of felony theft, so it might be a situation where they just suspect him
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of taking the car, but it seems unlikely that in this case the theft
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and murder wouldn't be related. Oh look, free car! But who knows? Yeah. I don't know
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what is going on for sure. I don't know that this Williams character is the
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murder person, suspect, but it does seem pretty well established that he was
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photographed in the butler's car after the murders heading for Mexico. Man, you
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know what that means? It has nothing to do with where you're from. It's where you
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are. The border makes people kill, Dan. It has nothing to do... There are fucking ghosts.
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They're possessing people around that area. I would like to remind you... That makes perfect
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sense now. I would like to remind you that perception is not reality. Okay, all
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right. Well, I've got a hunch, though. So what's going on is there's zero
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evidence that this is a case where there is a Mexican perpetrator. Right, right, right.
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That's something that Alex is entirely imagining based on his
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feelings that there was violence done against white people in the vicinity of
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Mexico, so it must have been done by Mexicans. This is a pure expression of
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his overt racism and a case where available evidence directly contradicts
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his racist assumptions. By the time he's on air here that we're listening to, it's
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the fifth and the photos of Williams driving the butler's car had been
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released the day before. This is entirely unacceptable for him to be getting on
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air and agitating like, you know, it's fine because they're brown and you're
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a white devil. This is explicitly deeply racist. It reminds me so much of, I'm pretty
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sure it was something by Faulkner, where the guy is just reading the morning
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paper and there's just like a man still on the loose thing and he just turns and
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looks and he said probably an n-word and then just moves on and you're like yeah
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that's that's racism right there you've got no information you're just like yep
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this this supports my race. It's even worse because there is information that's
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available and if you do anything about the case you should know that there is a
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suspect who's wanted that the police have put out a warrant for by the time
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he's on air. Like he has every reason to not have these narratives, these as
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reality is not perception, Jordan. That's his top story. Yeah. That there is a
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reality. Yeah. Unfortunately he's just trying to create a racist perception. It's the reality that I
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perceive though. Okay so that rant I believe is profoundly racist. Yeah. Here's
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what happens directly after it. And they're gonna squeeze a couple bullets
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in your head after they rape your wife in front of you but it's okay cuz they're
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brown and you're white devil. Isn't that sick? But don't worry the cartels raped
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the poor Hispanics as well and everybody else to get their hands on because the
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evil is spreading. Is that? And we're here fighting ladies and gentlemen
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because of your support but I gotta tell you. No. We're supporting you. We're in this
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together and Infowars has proven we're dedicated. Thank you. And aren't backing down and I
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double Patriot points 40 to 70 percent off. Gross. Yeah the the cartels evil is
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spreading and they're going to rape your wife and then shoot you. And it's fine
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cuz they're brown and you're white devil. It's fine cuz they're brown and you're white
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devil. Please go to my store. I'm gonna need some more money from you. He's like a
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coin-operated racism machine. Yep. So Alex starts complaining about how these
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these proud boys you recall those two proud boys got sentenced to four years
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at prison. Yeah for committing all their crimes. Sure. Alex is pitching the
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narrative that they were just defending themselves against Antifa. Yeah. And
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that's not fair at all based on again reality which is not perception. Yeah.
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Which is what Alex is operating off of. We've had hundreds upon hundreds of Antifa quote
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people arrested and nobody's being charged and they've barely arrested
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anybody but everybody that every proud boy and all that shit has done a hard
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time. Whatever the case is Alex has found out that this judge in that case he's
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done he's been involved in other cases too. Oh no. Would you believe it? What? This isn't
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just a fresh judge. What did he fight another judge? He did not. Oh no judge
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fights. Okay. But he did try another case that Alex thinks indicates that this guy
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is up to no good. And you've got the very same judge who gave the Proud Boys all
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these years in prison gave an admitted convicted pedophile in New York almost
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no time in jail. Here's an example right here.
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Proud Boys sentenced to four years in prison for attacking protesters. Rolling Stone
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doesn't call them Antifa that came there to attack them that followed them and
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that threw waters a bottle at them and then they defended themselves. No now
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it's protesters. Oh they attacked free speech people. No it was Antifa trying to
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stop their free speech. Total inversion. Haha. The same judge who had choice words
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for the Proud Boys gave the Orthodox Jewish man who admitted he had sex eight
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times with a little boy. He gave him basically no jail time even though he is
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admitted at all. To get this said right up top nothing I'm about to say should
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be interpreted in any way to mean that I think that this Orthodox Jewish man what
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he did was not as severe as what the Proud Boys did. I'm not interested in
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grading horrible things on some kind of an evilness scale like Alex is. I think
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they're both awful. That being said there's a reason that Borusz Libovitz
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received a lesser sentence than the Proud Boys and that has to do with the
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fact that the Proud Boys pled not guilty and were found guilty which will always
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result in a longer sentence for you. The two Proud Boys who were found guilty
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were sentenced to four years in prison but they weren't the only Proud Boys
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arrested after that gang fight in New York. Two of them took plea deals and
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only received community service. Others pled guilty and received sentences
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ranging from 40 weekends where they're released to go to work during the week
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and all that up to three months in prison. Like the people who cooperated
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and were like yeah we were trying to start a riot. Generally speaking
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admitting your guilt to a crime you definitely committed is seen as a sign
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of possible penitence. It's often interpreted as an indication that you're
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on your way toward making amends for your misdeeds and from a societal
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standpoint it's in everyone's best interest to support that kind of
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behavior. In reality Borusz Libovitz accepted a deal where he pled guilty and
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was sentenced to two years in prison. He'd already served
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13 months so most estimates say that he's only going to be in prison a
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further three more months. This could be interpreted as a three-month sentence
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but in reality it's a two-year sentence which had already been about half served.
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I don't know enough about the Libovitz case to comment on it really at
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all or whether or not he should be in prison longer but I know enough about
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these two stories to tell you that the reason that the Proud Boys got slightly
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relatively longer sentences is because they took their chances on a trial and
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blew it. That's all that's going on here. Alex is trying to turn it into a thing
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where this judge is like haha I love pedophiles I let them go but fuck the
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Proud Boys and that's just not the case. Also I'm not entirely sure if the judge was the one who
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determined the sentences. I'm not entirely sure if it wasn't the thing
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where the prosecution requested this. So I don't know but whatever the case Alex is
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just making shit up. I have no interest in any right-wing arguments about
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sentencing disparities. They're often ring false. So I don't know if you
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know this Jordan but climate change. What about it? Is in full recession?
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You know where we're finally getting back to normal? You don't know anything
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about this. Fair that is true. Climate change is not real. It is just a ploy
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in order to get carbon taxes. We all know that. Hey my brother told me that Obama
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bought some property in Florida so we all know that. Alex has talked about that
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a couple times but climate activism just about carbon taxes. Absolutely. We know
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this. This is a consistent piece of Alex's rhetoric. It has been for a very long
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time. You got it. Now what's interesting is if you pay attention to this clip
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Alex takes some of his long-standing rhetoric and completely changes it.
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Climate activism will make you less lonely says junkies.com telling
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leftists who are the most alone and stupid and unhealthy and highest rate of
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suicide. I'm sorry are you quoting junkies.com? Yeah. All right. Just go out
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and protest for carbon taxes globally paid to the world's richest who are all
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exempt and that'll save the planet. So how does this tie to the pedophiles
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where if you're the globalist pedophile rings and you're involved in all this
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how are you gonna sell the public on letting them track everything you do
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with AI and tax you for every movement you make and then exempt themselves as
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sabers of the planet. Well they're gonna pose as sabers of the planet and that ties
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it to Jeffrey Epstein. Billionaires tried to shrink world's population report says.
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Wall Street Journal 12 years ago 11 years ago a group run by Michael
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Bloomberg, Ted Turner, Oprah Winfrey, George Soros, Bill Gates,
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David Rockefeller run by Jeffrey Epstein. He ran the group. A secret world
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government group to save the planet. Oh. I don't want to put too fine a point on
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this but I've heard Alex talk about this very same group of globalist
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billionaires for years now. They were definitely discussed as far back as
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Endgame which came out like 2007. Yeah. In every incarnation of this narrative the
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group has been Oprah, Bill Gates, Ted Turner, the Rockefellers, sometimes Soros
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when he's realized I gotta yell about this guy. Yeah he's the Y in belts. Sometimes Bloomberg.
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He's not always included. Bloomberg has always seemed like an afterthought
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whenever he's added Bloomberg. It depends on what stage of his rhetoric he's in but
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it's always Bill Gates, Oprah, Ted Turner, and David Rockefeller. It literally has
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never involved Jeffrey Epstein. This is a completely new part of the narrative
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that Alex is adding because he knows that Epstein conspiracies are fucking
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hot right now. Yeah they're the summer's new winter. I don't know who was and
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wasn't connected with Epstein but I do know a whole lot about what Alex Jones
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has said in the past and he never said that Epstein was involved with this
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group much less running it until very recently. Of course. This is a very similar
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behavior that we've seen throughout Alex's career. He'll take hot topics from
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current events and he molds his rhetoric to suit them and pretend that he's
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always been on this case forever. He's definitely been yelling about this group
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he insists is dead set on depopulation forever so if you look into it you'll
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find that he did talk about them a bunch but he's completely changing the story
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now. I've searched through the archives of Infowars and Prison Planet and there
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are zero stories that include the words Jeffrey Epstein on Prison
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Planet before January 1st 2016. Yeah of course. And there's only one on Infowars
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which is just a 2015 London Examiner article that they've reposted. If Alex
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knew about him as being the big player in the globalist machine he sure as shit
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didn't seem to have left much material behind reflecting that on the
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website. That Wall Street Journal article Alex is citing doesn't mention Epstein
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at all. One of the sources for that Wall Street Journal article is another
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article in the Times of London which also doesn't mention Epstein but does
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tell us that the host of that meeting was Sir Paul Nurse who is a Nobel Prize
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winning biochemist. Putting it very bluntly Alex is just making this shit up.
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What Alex is doing is a cynical exploitation of a horrible story. He's
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taking a story that is very suspicious and twisting things so the suspicion
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matches his own narratives in an attempt to reinforce his self-touted ability to
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be ten steps ahead of the globalists at all turns and I find this behavior
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disgusting. Yeah in better times I think this would be more fun. Yeah like in bit
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like this has all the classic like this is the conspiracy theory kind of
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situation where it's like see and then you know that it's this guy and then of
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course and it's all run by Epstein who we just saw suspiciously died and that's
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my slam dunk and yeah in 2010 you know 10 we're all like ha ha ha you're crazy.
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If it's a friend and you're smoking weed on beanbag chairs it's a little annoying
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but kind of fun. Yeah yeah yeah. But now we've reached the logical conclusion of
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mainstreaming this kind of dumb conspiracy theory shit and this is yeah
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it is right it is it used to be something that would be fun and now it's
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like you pull out one of these conspiracy theories and the next thing
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you know six people are dead and you're like Jesus fucking Christ. So in this
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next clip Alex brags about his courage. He's a brave boy. He is not. He's a very
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brave boy. He's a coward. And he discusses how he had a moment of ecstasy that
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morning and I think he says when he ran away from his problems. No I think that
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he has a little moment here that reinforces some of the theories that
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I've been putting forth. Let me tell you I have something beyond courage and I'm
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not saying that to act tough it's not courage it's I'm driven to fight these
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people and I'm angry if I'm not doing enough and I never get rest I never feel
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any satisfaction just more more get them get them get them get them the Holy
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Spirit pushing me this morning about 830 I had like 10 minutes of ecstasy just
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envisioning their defeat and knowing we're gonna win and just the Holy Spirit
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was so strong saying good good good now we're getting where we're supposed to go
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because you don't care any what happens to you now and you're totally committed
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and you know we're gonna win and you're calling on my power to come down into
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the earth through the people and they're doing it and tell them to do that more
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that's what you're supposed to do Jones tell them to call on the Holy Spirit and
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on Jesus Christ the intercessor to God and we will defeat these Satanists you're
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on the right track Jones you're gonna be a preacher oh okay oh I thought he was
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gonna rerecord ready to die by a biggie but apparently not no he is going to be
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a preacher that sounds great I don't know how much to put in steak to put
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into that like that could just be him riffing yeah but you know we have seen
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pretty strong indications that Alex is becoming while he's always been
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religious way more way more religious and it does seem to look like a maybe he
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would be wise to pivot this into a completely religious grift as opposed to
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these made too much trouble in the conspiracy and politics world I think
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it's time for him to bail yeah it seems like you should hit that ripcord and try
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and scam on that level and as we know with Jim Baker you can go away you gotta
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go away to come back you gotta go away to come back yeah totally he can do it
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he could do it yeah and when he says stuff like that like yeah you know God
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is pushing me forward yes Jones yes you're going to be a preacher yeah I have
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a difficult time knowing whether I should interpret that is like hey
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what's coming is I'm going to start grifting religiously yeah or if it's
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just like hey whatever you're doing now is preaching yeah I'm not sure which it
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is but it's the most clear demonstration I think so far that Alex sees himself as
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a religious leader yeah he has talked about that in the last couple months to
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be like God is telling me to announce my leadership role right and think so I
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don't know it sounds it sounds more to me like when he says preacher he means
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it in the like biblical prophet that kind of like you're the pronouncer of my
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words yeah not necessarily a a pastor yeah there's some of that but it's hard
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to know for sure right we'll see how it develops it could be both yeah so Alex
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is he's gotta be in his bonnet that how everyone is afraid of devil worshipers
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but he is not and then he starts what he starts graphically talking about
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murdering his enemies okay great it scares the daylights out of them that
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people are fighting back yeah not everybody's just a sellout to evil not
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everybody backs down to threats not everybody's scared of you devil
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worshippers we're actually scared of ourselves in our desire to stop you we
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want to make sure we spend our will and our blood and our energy and our force
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making sure we eradicate your system we don't want to just slit your throats
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but I want to just beat your head in with baseball bats
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but I want to just run ice picks in your eye sockets give you a lobotomy a street
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lobotomy we don't want that we want to get your spirit off this planet and out
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of our universe we want you to go be with your own satanic forces we want you
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out of our world we want you out of our lives get behind me Satan I'd I just I
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don't know how he classifies his enemies but this is exterminationist talk like I
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don't know what woods that all Democrats eradicate Democrats from the world well
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everybody every you know everybody knows that every Democrat is a devil devil
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worshipper he's pointed that I said it over and over you said it in the past
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all people who believe in globalism they call you know which is a real thing as
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opposed to the globalists yeah which is his imaginary enemies right everybody
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who believes in like a globalism as a market strategy yeah well you got to get
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rid of eradicate them from the earth get behind me any what I mean when you talk
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about killing your enemies and stuff like this you notice he's also not
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saying politically no no we're past that yeah that the day of that is gone when
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you talk about killing your specific political enemies it's incredibly
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fucked up and totally irresponsible when you start getting into it as classes of
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folks that need to be driven off the earth we need to get rid of this from
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the earth you are in it in a territory that I read what was it in that New
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Yorker article he was talking about W Klee on Skousen and it said that he was
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that people were concerned that he's his rhetoric was getting dangerously close
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to Nazism I would say that you're getting dangerously close to some ideas
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that are abhorrent and we just you know you can't you can't allow can't have
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that kind of mentality where you need to eradicate your enemies from the earth
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yeah like his especially and I know that he's not saying that all of his enemies
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are Jews right he's not saying that but we've talked many times about the ways
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that he classifies and characterizes his enemies relies largely on a lot of
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anti-semitic tropes from history whether it's the ideas surrounding the blood
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libel or things that he's cribbed directly from the protocols of the
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elders of Zion when you have that in addition to we need to eradicate people
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from the earth you kind of gotta recognize that some people who are
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listening are going to hear that a particular way whether that's your
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intention or not whatever extremists you have in your audience may hear that as a
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call for ethnic cleansing on some level yeah you know I don't know so when when
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we talk about dangerously close to abhorrent I think we're already there I
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it for some reason it seems weird that it's less offensive that it's less
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targeted do you know what I mean like because that was specifically targeted
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then we'd be having a completely different cop well if he was saying the
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Jews then that's fucked up he wants to kill this specific subset of the
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population but his actual rhetoric kind of translates to him wanting to kill 75
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percent of the world or something so it does kind of imply that because like
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they're on whites and you know like there isn't a strong popularity for his
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ideas no no so the people that would end up being classified as his enemies would
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be a lot of people pretty much everybody so it feels less abhorrent because he's
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an equal opportunity wants to destroy the whole fucking planet right there you
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know there is some of that but I think it's also you know you can't lose sight
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of the fact that because of that sort of vagueness because of the broad and you
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know open to interpretation aspect of it right you run the risk of whatever your
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audience is bringing to the table that confirming something really bad in them
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oh absolutely so let's say it's somebody who hates Mexicans you'd be like well
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Mexicans are devil worshippers sure it's not my fault have you seen their
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Halloween or whatever maybe that's a Christmas I don't know or you could be
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someone who's really opposed to taxes I have you seen the government they're
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devil worshippers have you seen their Halloween or Christmas I don't know
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which one it is and then you could confirm the belief that we must
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eradicate all of these people it's just irresponsible whenever whenever you have
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a platform like this you need to be very mindful of the things that you express
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and when you're expressing we need to do more than kill these people we need to
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wipe them off the earth you have you can't talk like that I don't I don't
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understand how I mean I understand how I don't I don't get like the person that
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can say it terrorizing you like hey they're going to rape your wife in front
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of you and then shoot you in the head twice and then not find himself being
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the bad guy and the I don't want to just bash your brains out with a baseball bat
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I don't want to just kill you I don't want to just do that like you're the bad
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guy well it's because you know it's because his worldview is so such an
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underpinning of it is the constant defensive violence everything that he
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wants to do only is retaliation gives me carte blanche to do anything bingo yeah
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yeah I understand that it's nonsense so Alex also has James O'Keefe on the show
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on the fifth to talk about his big new scoop but honestly it's a very short
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drop-in and it's just Alex begging for more details about what James has coming
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up and James saying hey stay tuned he's not giving them any yeah yeah yeah not
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even a teaser it's but well it's kind of a teaser but in the sense that there is
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no information it's more or less just a commercial for project Veritas and James
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is such a fucking piece of shit I don't have any clips of them and I don't care
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recently project Veritas released a video of ABC News's Amy Robach saying
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that she had interviewed Epstein victim Virginia Roberts in 2015 but that ABC
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didn't let the story go to air the way this video is presented it lends the
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appearance of the people at ABC were trying to squash the story and that this
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was a cover-up it's easy to come away with that impression but if you're
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listening to this show then you should know by now no matter what you are a
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sucker if you believe project Veritas after the video was released Robach
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clarified her comments saying quote I was upset that an important interview I'd
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conducted with Virginia Roberts didn't air because we couldn't obtain
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sufficient corroborating evidence to meet ABC's editorial standards about her
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allegations my comments about Prince Andrew and her allegation that she had
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seen Bill Clinton on Epstein's private island were in reference to what
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Virginia Roberts said in that interview in 2015 I was referencing her allegations
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not what ABC News had verified through our reporting the interview itself while
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I was disappointed it didn't air didn't meet our standards in the years since no
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one has ever told me or the team to stop reporting on Epstein I can't tell you
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how many people I saw who I thought knew better retweeting that shit and saying
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well I guess project Veritas got one right it's incredibly depressing that
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people don't recognize the bad faith actors aren't suddenly doing the Lord's
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work because they're saying something that's closer in line to what you want
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to believe or what you think is right or accurate project Veritas lies that's
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what they do it's their entire business model right-wing agitation based on
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taking things out of context to conform to a narrative I know that everything
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around Epstein is very suspicious and further competent investigations and
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reporting has to be done on that story that is just never going to come from
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James O'Keefe there's another aspect to this that deserves mention and that is
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that James O'Keefe doesn't give a fuck about the Epstein story he's doing this
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to attack the media this entire thing is about attacking the institutions that
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have rightly excluded him and talked about how he's a lying manipulative shill
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for right-wing billionaires ever since he and Andrew Breitbart got together
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nothing about what he's doing brings anything new to the Epstein story
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literally the only thing that comes out of this is trying to attack the media
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that is all he cares about also the stories that robots was describing were
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already reported prior to her shelved interview by Gawker you might remember
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that Gawker was destroyed after a lawsuit brought by Hulk Hogan which was
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paid for by fuckhead libertarian billionaire Peter Thiel probably not
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important to point out that Peter Thiel has given James O'Keefe a ton of money
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as far back as 2009 the very person who funded a lawsuit to put out of business
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one of the first media organizations that covered the Epstein story is also
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one of James O'Keefe's early backers life's weird so fuck all this shit I
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don't care about James O'Keefe and his nonsense yeah what was it we we talked
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about it on that day and it was basically it was like why would I don't
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listen to anything that they say ever ever at least ever at least don't take
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it at face value I just I will if there is anything that they have to say then
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it will be filtered through outlet that has fucking yes standard so why would I
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listen to them yeah you can do nothing they have to say is worthwhile I hate to
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say something like this but they have certainly deserved it or earned the
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reputation you can just write off you can ignore project Veritas and if any
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information is in any way relevant some other outlet that has you know
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independent streaks to it yep will cover that story better and with actual
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confirming it's just it's it's a trash fucking outlet and you know that because
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every time he comes up with the scoop he goes on fucking info Wars talk about it
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yeah you need any more proof that he's up to no good right it's fucking hanging
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out with this white identity shitbag agitator yeah and that idea of like oh
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well he got one this time like in what world does he pitch a story and then
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follow it through with reporting like there's no it is purely here is what we
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are going to say find us a way to say it that sounds right yeah it is never going
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to be he accidentally stumbles onto good reporting so Alex jumps off from this
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topic and he gets to hey another race story that he's fucking completely lying
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about well we knew it was coming it's on info wars calm and news wars calm and
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it's so incredibly important and I'll get to in the last segment of this hour
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UK National Health Service to deny treatment to quote racist and sexist
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they control the jury of the leftist mob and media they call you something no
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due process even if you were that you shouldn't lose your rights and now you
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can starve to death on the side of the road no bank accounts no jobs no health
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care no welfare I'm gonna start off by saying that I'm not sure where I land
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on this story entirely it's definitely not what Alex is saying it is but it
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does raise some moral questions that I'm not sure I have the perfect answer for
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the way Alex is describing this story he's pretending that some board of
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leftists are gonna accuse you of being a racist and then when you go to the
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hospital with a broken arm they'll pull up your file and say sorry we don't
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treat racists and that's not even close to the reality I feel like if we do have
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that though we should get to wear robes like full-on like leftist overlord oh
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yeah absolutely this is not close to the reality which again is not perception
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this is a story about the North Bristol trust a company that services
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hospitals in Bristol launching a new program called the red card to racism
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in the program if a patient is being abusive to a staff member in a racist or
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sexist way they'll be given a warning and a yellow card if they refuse to stop
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being racially abusive they'll get a red card and if it's safe to do so at that
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point they will withdraw from providing treatment for this patient the program
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grew out of a large spike in racist abuse being thrown at staff at the
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hospital and a recognition that no one should have to work in that sort of
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environment I definitely support that and I think the program isn't super bad
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given that there's a warning system and the fact that they won't withdraw
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services if doing so is unsafe for the patient if a patient like needs a
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breathing tube they're not gonna jeopardize that person's health because
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they're a racist if but if you have like a sprained wrist and you won't stop
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yelling racist shit they're gonna claim their space and refuse to provide
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service yeah you've got a breathing tube it's really hard to shout raceless racial slurs
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well or if you're on like a defibrillator or pacemaker if it's
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unsafe for them to withdraw services they can't do that in critical condition
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they're going to keep doing that I'm torn because my gut tells me that the
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medical workers should not make judgment calls about who should they should help
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and who they should not that's kind of based on some idealized feelings I have
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about the profession at the same time the more I think about it these nurses
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and receptionists and doctors they're human beings not unfeeling healing
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robots if racist abuse is a problem that's reaching the point where it needs
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to be addressed at this Bristol Hospital I feel like I would be shitty for my
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argument to be that these doctors should suck it up and deal with it because
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their profession has a higher calling if this were a thing where people who are
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known racist so like let's say David Duke that they were being denied care
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even though he acted politely at the hospital hmm I think I would be against
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that but this program as it's laid out what ends up happening is solely based
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on the patient's behavior and I think that's okay yeah I think that's all
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right I mean if you're a if you're a server and your table is hurling racist
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abuse at you there are so many places that won't allow you to say a goddamn
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word right you know and I think you should be able to do that absolutely
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right and absolutely there is a difference between a hospital and a
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restaurant there but people are still the same people who work yeah so you're
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gonna get racist abuse shit on at you that's why you should be able to stop it
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that's why I'm super conflicted because on a human level I agree with that a
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hundred percent but there is some lingering feelings about like the
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Hippocratic Oath right and all of that stuff yeah but I think I think that that
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doesn't apply I yeah I'm on the side that I think that if there was no
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warning yeah if they could risk your life by withdrawing treatment because
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you're racist yeah I would feel very uncomfortable with this but the way it's
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set up I think I don't know I think it's alright and it whatever the case is even
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if I have some sort of like mixed feelings about it the air on the side of
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being in favor of yeah it has nothing to do with what Alex is talking about right
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the way he's presenting the story is completely dishonest based on his
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perceptions right as opposed to reality and I like I wish more comedy clubs
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would Institute the red card policy that'd be nice yeah man to two strikes
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and you're out that's perfect yeah so it's November 5th sure Roger Stone's
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trial is starting that day yeah and Alex has a Roger Stone associate named Jacob
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angles on to talk about it joining us is Jacob angles of Central Florida Post
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we're gonna get one of Rogers lawyers on who's able to speak tomorrow
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Tyler Nixon that does not end up today we've been there we can also roll some
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video while he's speaking with TV viewers of Roger arriving at court today
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also folks were bullhorning there that Roger Stone did nothing wrong full
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disclosure I believe that I have interacted with Jacob angles on Twitter
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before oh yeah one time I was watching one of Alex's marathons and I was
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getting pretty drunk while I was doing it sure so I decided to start tweeting
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out some commentary okay one of the people who came on Alex's marathon was
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Jacob angles who was just there to talk about how Roger Stone is great I have no
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idea what I tweeted at him but and I didn't tweet at him I didn't add him it
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was just his name so he has names searched right right right and about one
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what a surprise that he would name search by the way yeah about one minute
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after his segment ended I got a response from it it was surreal it was like the
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TV talking back to me anyway I can't find our tweets but I don't remember
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them being too heated or anything I don't I don't have any like real memory
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of it being like oh my god this is fucked up yeah I probably can't find our
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tweets because he got kicked off Twitter after he posted some Islamophobic
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nonsense and now he's listed as a writer for Laura Loomer's website so things
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look like they're gone pretty great oh boy well at least you know Grant Hill
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isn't gonna shut that one down he's also probably a member of the proud boys no
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this guy sucks boy anyway he is on and this is where the bombshell gets dropped
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okay we got there today early ahead of Rogers trial to welcome him give him
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strength give him love and he went in and immediately one of the first jurors
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and jury selection was an Obama communications director appointee whose
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husband works in the deep state and what did the corrupt Obama era judge say that
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that person's political background and service in the Obama administration and
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her husband service in the intelligence community had no bearing on their
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ability to be objective this is a sham witch hunt showtruck
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excuse me we didn't talk before you came on I followed a lot of your coverage but
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missed the last few hours you're telling slow down and repeat this Alex has no
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idea what wait wait wait start from the beginning hold on in the beginning was
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the word begin there and then catch me up in a few years yeah so this is news
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to Alex and he does not know what to do with it oh boy she is allowing in Obama
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era White House communications director to be a juror whose husband works in the
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deep state intelligence community
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Wow you were there can you tell us the name or is that gag you're not allowed
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to say the names of the individual but all I can tell you is it's Washington
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DC 97% of the District of Columbia voted for him so this is the jury that Roger
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Stone is going to be facing small point Hillary got 90% of the vote in DC in the
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2016 election I mean it's still a high number but I have no idea why these guys
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can't just get anything right even when the correct number still makes their
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point still ridiculously high yeah it's like they're pathologically driven to
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escalate things they just can't stop it couldn't be it couldn't be 90% it has to
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be 92% yeah just can't be the right number yeah so Alex is immediately like
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we got a fucking figure out who this person is why don't they just have
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Robert Mueller as the jury or Hillary Clinton you're saying Obama White House
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communications director well let's look up the names of who those folks were
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holy mackerel oh no that's not good no but you can see that's his immediate
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instinct is his immediate instinct is I'm going to sick my Infowars people on
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her and she's going to die well I mean we can say that pretty confidently or
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at least that's what he wishes to happen yeah based on all the context we have
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from his prior behavior how things have happened in the real world you know I
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don't I don't find yeah any plausible argument that he's not trying to
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intimidate somebody no or at least tamper with the jury somehow we're we're
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coming off Boston fucking marathon him jumping into a story and releasing a
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picture of somebody who's not involved within seconds of course this is gonna
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happen it's gonna be a nightmare yes now whether or not you could prove in court
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that he is intending to intimidate is another issue I think that I can
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confidently say it from my feelings and my experience studying Alex that that is
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exactly what he's trying to do yeah but in court I think you'd have a much more
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difficult time proving that intention I think in a jury of your peers you would
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do just fine you'd be alright there was 12 dance if there some Danielle's yeah
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well that would be rude so angles wants to you know he's talking about how
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there was a bunch of people there to support Roger and I just think that this
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clip is really funny because Alex has to interrupt angles to go to break but then
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he gets cut off by the break there's just a series of interruptions that
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happened at the end of this clip that I find pretty funny by the way no
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communist rain protesters there were only people there supporting Roger a
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multiracial group of people from all across the country who came out to show
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stone that he has loved and he has for a lot of angles the reporter that Roger
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stone trusted cover the trial for him or we come back to you joy Behar went on
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national TV and said we're gonna lie and get in and then take the guns just like
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this judge to the first year they bring forward would you like to get back that
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full head of hair from years past it's insane he has no idea how to handle this
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story that's dropped into his lap so he has to go back to the joy Behar talking
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point and then he just has no timing so he gets cut off by the break I love it
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that's fun yeah so he gets back and here's how he
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introduces Jacob angles Jacob angles respected long-term reporter central
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Florida Post Roger Stone's friend he's been here to visit us in studio the
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Central Florida Post is a name that sounds like a newspaper it really does I
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should tell you that it is definitely not okay it is a blog that Jacob angles
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runs which he named that way so people who didn't know any better might think
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it's a newspaper yeah here are some of the outlaw the headlines currently up on
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the homepage of the Central Florida Post poop tastes good quote fake news outlet
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Orlando weekly is going broke weird everybody in this world hates the media
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quote American priority conference hosting Trump jr. and Matt gates this
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one's basically just a press release for an event at Trump's Doral property quote
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Disney profit increases upset theme park socialists no idea what that one's about
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did not click on the link oh this is blog good for Jacob for having some
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motivation and follow-through I respect the hustle of naming your blog something
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that sounds like a newspaper but I can't give this a pass he used the term theme
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park socialists in a headline yeah this is not a serious every time I go to a
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theme park I'm like ah get these goddamn socialists out of here so Alex is he's
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had the break to try and gather his you know his marbles and now the the story
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is that this juror had been selected for the jury there we go now it's not
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test it's not true of course it's not but this is how it goes and he just laid
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an incredible bombshell on us one of Barack Obama's former communications
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directors at the White House has been chosen as the first juror and the judge
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is dramatic as shit such a circus the judge is appointed by Obama and now the
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first juror and the day's almost over there so if your standard for who can
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preside over a case as anybody who was appointed by Obama is invalid yes that's
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a fucking bullshit standard no no anybody appointed by Obama is invalid
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you'll never get a fair trial out of a judge appointed by Obama it's it's a
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nonsensical standard of jury of your peers impartial judge well you can't get
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a Clinton judge either oh no because you can't get a Reagan judge maybe not
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probably not if you're Roger Stone yeah so also Alex is presenting this as the
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first juror selected in reality what this is was just interviewing people to
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be put into the jury pool which then would be trimmed down right it's a
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preliminary thing okay this is nonsense she wasn't selected for the jury it was
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the first round of cuts and then there's gonna be another round and then you're
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gonna have the jury yeah and the reporting on it in Reuters was saying
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that the judge the reason that she didn't exclude this person from the
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potential jury pool was that they had said that they could make an impartial
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decision yeah despite their career despite the job that they formerly had
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they could see this impartially right and that's the standard by which people
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are excluded or included in the preliminary pool after that point you
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trim it down you know the the prosecutor and the defense attorney can say hey no
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on this person yeah they have a certain amount where they can strike it for no
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reason and then they have to have a reason and that whole thing yeah and so
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that's a natural part of the process if you are a sane person you would hear
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this and you would think well there's no way she'll actually be on the jury no
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absolutely not so that's what we should do is even though she'll never be on
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that jury is release her picture so a bunch of people can harass her until she
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dies that would be fun yeah that sounds it's a good thing no one would do that
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yeah but at this point on November 5th Alex decides all right Jacob Engels
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isn't gonna tell me who this person is so I'm gonna pull up a list of
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communications directors wow we're just gonna be committing crimes today huh
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he's gonna play a guessing game oh boy you know maybe you can blink or maybe
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take the glasses off when I say the right name
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Ellen Moran Anita Dunn acting Dan Pfeiffer I think Dan Pfeiffer not
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allowed to reveal Jennifer Powell Mary Jennifer Powell Mary 2013-2015 oh my god
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Jen Paskey guess it's not her Wow well you saw you nod maybe you'll be
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thrown in prison that was involuntary this judge is God none of us can talk
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none of us can say anything because we've got to have Obama's former
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communications director hang Roger hell if they give him the death penalty maybe
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she can hang him and kick the lever and he'll you know break his neck and she
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can piss all over his dead body I mean my gosh Jacob these people are out of
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control so here's the thing the reporting on this that was tweeted out
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by I damn it I I regret that I don't have the person's name but there were
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people from like courthouse news court reporters who were there who were
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tweeting out things along with the trial and it was reported in Reuters that the
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person in question this juror this potential juror was a communications
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director for the Office of Budget and Management or management and budget
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yeah Alex is reading off a list of White House communications directors sure so
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he has the wrong position right and is just guessing names and has decided that
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it's this Palmieri right lady I don't understand how humanity has gotten as
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far as we have the less the real question the list that he's pulling
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potential people from cannot include the person yes because he's using the wrong
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list yeah I remember numbers theory a set of whole numbers yeah yeah but that
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doesn't stop him from deciding he knows what's up you sat there with your
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eyeballs when Jennifer Palmieri and this all little nod there in this free
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country you can't tell me because we're not allowed to know it's Obama's former
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communications director but I guess his lawyers what Rogers lawyers without
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getting into the name I guess they search engine the person's name more
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like oh my god this is Obama's communications director holy mackerel you
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know this person's a guest host on MSNBC what what was the judge saying at this
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point when she engaged like saying Hitler would run the Nuremberg trials
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well all I can say is from what happened in the courtroom today there was a
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well-known Obama communications asset was allowed to be a juror and the judge
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said with a straight face that that was no conflict of interest that serving in
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the Obama administration was not a conflict past that her husband is a
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member of the deep state intelligence community that's not a cop hey look up
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pal Mary's husband okay I've seen a lot of things but knowing how the law works
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the fact that they're doing this Trump's got a pardon him are they're trying to
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what the hell you can't I know who Paul Mary is that person's been all the news
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they're gonna be the juror who's meant you know why they were first to lead the
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jury to convicting so what so none of this is real but this is ridiculous
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yeah fucking pack it in yeah call it call it here what is it 725 America's
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gone let's just call it this is a ludicrous thing that's happened but it's
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partially because Alex got blindsided by this information angles on air and he's
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now I would just sort of roll with it so he's decided it's this Jennifer Paul
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Mary which is not it cannot it cannot be no but he isn't just not it can not he's
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building up with this case that it is that's interesting to me but in this
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next clip he's rambling around a little bit and I really felt like he was trying
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to get to a plug yeah but he just couldn't do it I think that you'll feel
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the same way we'll see we're gonna go back to our guest here in a moment I'm
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just gonna say this right now oh my god looks like she worked for the Bill of
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Melinda Gates foundation too oh no oh my god you know what that means too
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they're producing full TV shows to demonize me funded by Bill of Melinda
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Gates on ABC NBC CBS you're the good doctor all of it I mean these people are
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pure evil I'm gonna stop for the romance our guests yeah that felt like he was
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trying to get to a plug I really felt that yeah I love the way he's like NBC
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ABC although CBS all of it the good doctor that's the only specific he has
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there's no evidence at all that there was in any way connected so great so
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stupid like yeah just the dumbest shit I've ever heard of my life I really am I
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shouldn't be surprised but the swiftness with which he came to complete 100
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percent certainty is just kind of astonishing right like right I've never
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gone from zero I I still regret serial choices from yesterday you know what I'm
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saying yeah but you understand that this is partially like this is what what he
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has to do he has to stake a claim really fast for sure for sure it's a strategy
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that he has in order to get attention yeah like because all this it really is
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like okay we have something we got to run with it yeah but this will get a lot
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of attention if we out this juror yeah I kind of feel like maybe this is one
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where everybody should have just ignored him yeah I know I think so too especially
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because from what I understand it's not technically illegal what he's doing yeah
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it's disgraceful and also dangerous so I don't I don't actually know if I agree
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with you on the ignoring it thing because it is a really good present-day
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example of the sort of behavior right that leads to why he is a problem no for
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sure and I think that there is maybe a teachable moment in it more so than a
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lot of times I see things being posted about him that are like you guys should
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let this one go well let this slide I mean that's kind of the thing there is
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for for me it seems like the only way that he is going to get enough eyeballs
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I you know maybe I we still don't know exactly what the size of his audience is
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no but it is far less than the amount of people who are gonna see it if it's
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tweeted out by right-wing watch and retweeted and so on and so forth my
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position on it that I know is like I think that this is a story that is worth
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people paying attention to and knowing about in in in comparison to other times
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yeah fucking yeah you're giving him attention yeah yeah don't don't like
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turn him into a meme yeah but this is worthwhile but I also think that there
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is a responsibility to understand it in a fuller context yeah yeah as opposed to
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a little sound bite of him saying that he's gonna out the person's for sure
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understanding it within like how does this fit into his strategies more
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generally what is he actually doing what is the point here and I think that those
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things are something that's I don't know if it's missing because I haven't read
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all the coverage of this so that would be wrong of me to say that no one is
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talking about the larger picture yeah but I think it definitely is missing
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from a lot of the conversation that I see on Twitter about about this
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particular instance there is a more important thing that is part of this
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story without focusing on Alex and understanding him more than most people
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care to there is there is a context that is missed okay that's what I would say
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all right so in that last clip that I played for you I told you he was it felt
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like he was trying to get to a plug and I'm thrilled to announce he definitely
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was trying to get to a plug good and they think having some judges put Obama
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head communications directors hell have the press secretary in there hell have
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Obama do it if political background has nothing to do with it hell like I said
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let the Nazi Party get the time machine and go back to 1946 to the Nuremberg
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trials literally a political affiliation has nothing to do with a juror then let
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Nazi Party members sit in judgment over the Nazis what a load of malarkey but
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they're murdering common sense because they can't beat common sense I'll say
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this briefly we're ending the big mega sell the next you know the new sale
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selling out of all of our best-selling items and so I have 40 to 70 percent off
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story free shipping double pedigree points it's about to have to end I've
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got almost a whiplash man that was just after the last clip that's why I'm
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saying I was definitely trying to get to a plug sense of Nazis under the Euro
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Nuremberg trials we're out of common sense we're about to end our specials
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too so you got to watch out he definitely just got distracted by
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someone in his ear saying Bill and Melinda Gates yeah okay in the middle of
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trying to get to a goddamn plug that's why he's got to talk so fast because
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he's running out of time what an idiot yeah so Alex is pretending that the
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media is covering up the fact that this potential juror was formerly in the
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Office of Budget and Management it is very very amazing how quickly this
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happens yep other points you can add to us about this sir and how we're now not
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supposed to and the media says they're not supposed to tell us that Obama's
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communications director I guess when they're walking in and out everybody
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knows who they are and they're famous we're just all supposed to ignore that
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too I call the pedophile rings what I saw this tweeted out in real time
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Reuters had an article that talked about it like this is no one's covering
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anything up they're just not behaving like you yeah that's all because they
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understand yeah a reality or perception ah so Alex is like this judge is in your
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face this tyranny is so naked no and they discuss why is that the case okay
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why do you think it's so in our face it's in our face because they're trying
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to teach every single one of the people that are listening right now a lesson
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that if you stand up and you fight for America you fight for America first you
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fight for making this country great again for alternative media or things
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like info wars and freedom and truth and liberty then you will be punished you
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will be shamed you will be dragged through court your finances will be
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depleted your family will be ruined that's what they're trying to know this
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is a political torture and destruction and assassination in front of us they
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want us to know they're crooks that judge wants us to know she's a thug exactly
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this is openly just rubbing it in yeah yeah that's what it is Wow if you
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probably committed serious crimes they want to make an example of you no no no
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it's just because you support info wars and the alternative media man that is
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that is that that level of like why are we even trying to why am I trying to
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have a conversation with you at all about and the impartiality or
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impartiality potential juror it's not it doesn't matter what they are if I said
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these people voted for Obama he'd be like see you can't vote for Obama and be
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impartial on a judge for Roger Stone you voted you find something yeah and
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honestly I don't want to like oversell this but I know exactly what's going on
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here I think it's very transparent if you watch this through the entire
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episodes context the things that he's done in the past it's very very obvious
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what he's trying to get pulmonary on his show yep totally so Alex said this is
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the last clip from the fifth he decides that he's going to go and cover Rogers
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trial fuck this is so evil I wasn't gonna come cover the trials I don't want
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to be a distraction I'm coming now I'm coming everyone needs to be there
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everyone go support Roger this is bigger than Roger Stone now they are literally
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railroading him I've never and it's confirmed that it's the former Obama
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communications director will lead the jury she'll probably make her the
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foreman that's so fake is that how we end the show yeah okay so that's a load
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of bullshit but just to break up the fifth and the sixth I forgot to play
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this at the beginning so here's an out-of-context drop from today's
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episodes I have been in satanic rituals I've left them I got tricked into being
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out of twice which is which to go into two satanic rituals after that he
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clarifies like well I went to Bohemian Grove so maybe it's actually three fuck
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off yeah so we jump in here on the sixth and Alex announces that he's had a giant
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epiphany about how the global oh man he's got so many of these yeah I got up
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early this morning did a lot of research and then I worked out real hard for
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about an hour and while the blood was pumping through the brain I was having
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explosive diarrhea understanding oh the enemy's operation I already understand
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many layers of it the structures of it more than even top generals in the New
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World Order know their own system what but I could see the fractal design of it
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and the sickening art form that it basically is and I have a critical piece
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of the puzzle I want to talk about so when I heard that I was like this is
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gonna be disappointing no matter what he says it's gonna be something he said a
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hundred times yeah bullshit and honestly I listen to the rest of this episode I'm
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not sure what it was oh well that's that's that's actually a refreshing new
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direction for him to go I would say that it's a disappointment but I don't know
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what the breakthrough that's I like that I like that leave me in suspense maybe
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we'll get some other time it's very weird because I was like is that the
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epiphany I had an epiphany that I still have epiphany the sickening fractal
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system of like I don't know I can't I maybe the system is just fractal ized
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and that's what his epiphany was I'm not sure what it was but this next clip was
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not surprising in any way let me mention the first thing that I'm gonna cover in
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the next hour when criminal lawyer constitutional lawyer first amendment
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lawyer Robert Barnes is in studio with us well I consulted with several lawyers
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last night and with Barnes this morning right before I went on air and George
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Soros and little media matters outfit are really upset right now because they
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want to pull the wool over our eyes as we all know we had a reporter on your
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stay was in the courtroom and it was completely blown away when a known Obama
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official that headed up a department whose husband as opposed as a lawyer
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Justice Department on the Russiagate hoax specifically
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and stones lawyers raised this and tried to strike her the first juror they
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looked at she was waiting she'll be the jury foreman watch so when Alex is
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talking about this juror on these these two shows he's absolutely lying about
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something very important which I've already brought up and that is that
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they're saying that she was chosen to be a member of the jury that's not the case
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at this stage of the that the trial was at they were just interviewing potential
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jurors this process would go on and result in a jury pool after that pool is
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picked then the prosecution and defense will have the ability to strike people
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from the pool which is almost certainly what would happen in this case all
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that's happening is that the judge was indicating that she didn't feel that
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this person's past job was enough to preclude her from being a potential
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juror which I think is fair if you end up trying to put in place a standard
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that a jury of your peers has to mean they all politically agree with you no
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cult member or extremist would ever be charged with anything in court ever
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again yeah does Alex imagine that the Proud Boys for example all have to be
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tried in front of a jury of Western chauvinists it's ridiculous I've read up
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on this a little and from what I understand what Alex is doing is not
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specifically illegal but it's a deep breach of what people consider proper
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behavior it would become illegal very illegal if he were specifically trying
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to out this person with the intention of intimidating her now we both know like
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we've already discussed that's exactly what he is doing but proving that in
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court would be insanely difficult so Alex is probably legally in the clear on
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that ethically though this is a huge affront to our court system juror
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identities are not something that people are supposed to discuss until the trials
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are complete and even then generally only if the juror decides to come
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forward that's kind of a crucial part of the appearance of blind justice that
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these jurors can feel empowered to make an unbiased decision even against
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powerful or dangerous persons who are on trial because they know that they aren't
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necessarily there as themselves they're representing all of us in effect their
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individual identity is supposed to blur into the hole while they're serving as
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jurors outing jurors identity makes this way less possible since it introduced
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into people's minds the possibility that what they do in a jury box won't stay in
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that courtroom and could ruin their lives now it's so easy to get jurors for
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mafia guys because they knew that nobody would put their name out and they would
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be safe forever and ever that's why it was so easy to get juries ultimately I
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don't think that Alex's primary goal is to intimidate this juror potential juror
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he wants to create a gigantic public spectacle that gets him free press which
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he is achieving it's so sad that the only ways that he can get any attention
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these days is to roll around town in a tank or behave in culturally
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destructive ways that are right on the cusp of being huge felonies yeah the
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other goal he has is to create a preemptive justification for why Roger
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is going to be found guilty Alex because he's worked with Roger and was around
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knows that Roger is guilty he's so guilty he knows he specifically told
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Roger to get in touch with WikiLeaks and Guccifer he's the most guilty we've
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played clips of him talking about that on the show yeah he knows that Roger was
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coordinating with his other employee Jerome Corsi on the matter Alex knows
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that Roger is more than likely going to prison so now it's important to have a
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narrative in place before that happens this potential juror is perfect for that
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because now no matter what happens this trial is defective to Alex it doesn't
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matter if this juror doesn't make the jury her very existence in the potential
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pool of jurors will be used as the talking point for why Roger is a
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political prisoner not a criminal it's an Obama judge with an Obama lawyer with
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an Obama jury who's obamaing all over Roger Stone's Oh Nixon tattoo on his ass
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and that is why it's that what he's primarily interested in here it's just
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damage control but it's damage control that's very dangerous and could put this
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person through a whole lot of unnecessary trouble and if it does I
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sincerely hope she sues Alex because I think that his behavior here is the sort
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of thing how fucking Jennifer Palmieri sues Alex well she might not stay in the
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narrative very long she might have been a suspect for a day because Alex does
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end up naming the juror what and it's not her oh god he actually does yeah
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fuck what an idiot yep so like I said and he's lying about her being chosen
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and he talks about that a little more here she should be struck from being a
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potential juror and the judge said no she's a juror she questioned the woman
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and said do you have a dog in this fight there's quotes her she goes no I don't
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care one way or the other she's first in line ready brought in and the judge
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raises her skirt and pisses on the Constitution and the American people
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it's a family show family show okay so Alex mocks the idea that people might
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think that what he's doing is illegal because he thinks that he's just being a
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journalist and then media matters goes Jones should get arrested for jury
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tampering and harassing jurors it's completely legal and lawful when
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someone's a public figure what if Brad Pitt was on the jury what if Obama was
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on the jury what if it was Robert Mueller but it was Hillary Clinton what
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it was Chelsea Clinton called oh she's on it Oh Chelsea Clinton's gonna sit on
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the jury for Roger Stone you'd say that's crazy yeah but what if it was
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both Jackson wouldn't that be cool it's one of their minions and we've got her
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name and we're gonna release it because that's what the press does I know
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there's a war on the press and yeah all right so there's a war on the press that
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you're bleeding you're deeply involved in you are the one warring a couple of
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really quick points one Alex says that it's legal and lawful which is a Barnes
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catchphrase yeah so I know that he's saying that based on meetings with
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Barnes that linguistic tech is very specific to Barnes so that's cool gotcha
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second I read the media matters article and it doesn't say that Alex should go
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to prison for this they're just saying this is ridiculous behavior yeah that
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he's engaged in he's just making that up as a straw man in order to attack so
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lest you think that this show is all just about this potential juror no Alex
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also has to get into disgusting rants about drag queen story time what why now
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it's launching full assaults directly on letting men dressed as women in clown
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outfits in satanic outfits have access to your children and now even show their
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genitals to them in unannounced events as they fully mark their territory for
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assimilation and destruction they're grooming them and they go to city
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councils and they go on TV and they say we must have access to your children the
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beautiful thing we're gonna do with them this is lovely this is wonderful we
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are here to groom them they are ours and sometimes even go drinking blood and
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just savagely will murder them you see them what I want to tell them excuse me
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because they're uncloaking they're uncloaking you think they just want to
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screw your kids they want to murder them but first they want them begging alone
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in the dark not believing God's real that's their whale song and I have a
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song for them the fire of God's judgment is coming so that's pretty offensive and
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it seems really disjointed from our episode and it is a little bit you know
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it came out of nowhere a little bit but the reason I wanted to play that is
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because like it's gross it's sickening but at the same time when I was
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listening to it one of the things that I couldn't help but think I couldn't stop
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thinking this is like that is by that's just by the book that's like it really
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felt like he was on autopilot yeah yeah just totally the demon voice they want
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to take a blood they're coming to all of the little beats that were along the way
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it's just like this is boilerplate yeah Alex yeah that really that that
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juxtaposition of how like sickening that that that rhetoric is and how rote it is
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in his just delivery it's it's something that he could just rattle off yeah no
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prize closed yep don't even worry about it you need me to fill five I got five
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yeah yeah no there have been there been a few times where it's like I'm sure
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that you've been there as well where you're doing a long set and you you're
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doing a chunk that you've done for five years and all of a sudden you realize
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you're thinking about something else while still talking yeah yeah you have
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no you were like oh shit I'm still on stage holy cow yeah there are a number
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of stories that I told hundreds of times yeah and like I just could do it
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mechanically yeah yeah yeah absolutely and that's how it feels here and that's
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gross I mean it's disgusting it's also kind of surreal you know it's it's it's
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really weird how normal for him yeah things that are horrible are yeah so
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anyway Alex gets back to the it's almost like a like a fire and brimstone
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preacher in like the medieval a medieval era of just like oh you're just you're
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just screaming let's kill the Jews all the time and you're fine with it it
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doesn't even bother you like we're past that man yeah yeah it's it's a jarring
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and it's one of those things too that I always have to consider is like how
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inundated I am with Alex's shit that like nothing it's kind of hard to shock
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me with his his rhetoric and that's that's like that clip if you're
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introduced to that without the context of listening to tons of Alex right
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right right that's nuts right but for us it's you know hey it's just Alex talking
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shit yeah yeah it's wild it's it's it's a it's a gross place that I've come to
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in my life I think what's interesting about that for me is that it makes it
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even more disgusting whenever I hear it from anyone else sure like from Alex I'm
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just like oh yeah fucking whatever you're gonna drink blood you know this
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is your marketing yeah yeah but if I hear it from a from like a human being
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that's just fine I'm like you are what are you doing you're yeah yeah yeah so
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Barnes is on sure cuz it's a day and it's Alex's shows that one of his
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lawyers is here yeah so he's on and he has a fucking interesting way of looking
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at this case today media organizations were pushing back saying that the
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identity of the jurors could not be disclosed that somehow would be a
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criminal act or a bad act if that took place that's nonsense used to be the
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media demanding everything be public now they're the executioners they're the
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attack dogs of tyrannous well if it was one of theirs on trial they would be
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demanding disclosure and they would be talking about bias imagine you were in
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the 1960s and the media came out and said you can't talk about the clan
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connection of adjourn of a in an african-american defendant case that's
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precisely what took place here that is not precise Wow place here Barnes that
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is not what took place Barnes can be relied upon for a big swing every time
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we've seen him on the show he has at least one big cut you know yeah he's
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taken it and so this is what he's bringing to the table is like all we're
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doing yeah is highlighting jury bias yeah often jury bias was only exposed
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when the identity of the individual was named they're like hey I have this
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information I have that information hey they misled on this what protects a fair
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trial in this country is open free press that's right we're going to bring that
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power back by sheer force of will we're going to expose this prospective juror
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the first one brought up by the judge that works for Obama in the Bill of
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Melinda Gates Foundation and his husband is deep inside the operation with the
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fake Russiagate hoax on the other side so now that Alex has spoken with Barnes
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and Barnes is there he's being a little more careful because he is saying
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perspective yeah yeah so that is interesting that is sort of a changing
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and maybe it's just an updating of information maybe he sincerely believed
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earlier that she was chosen right right I don't know I don't know what it is but
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I had a conversation and Barnes is like okay here's what you have to tell the
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truth about yeah here's what you can lie about well we got to get these things
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right yeah but what we can see for sure is that Barnes absolutely advised Alex
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on this yeah this morning we had a lengthy meeting we pulled the Supreme
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Court rulings he said absolutely it's not just you're right Alex it's your
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duty to release the name of the woman who's been picked as the first
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prospective juror they tried to strike her and the judge said no wait till
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Robert Barnes esteemed lawyer lays this out for you because this is way bigger
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than Roger Stone who we all feel for we have empathy because we know we're next
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myself literally when something happens to Roger it's like it's happening to me
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that's what empathy is that is not him no that's not how that works it's not
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empathy now that's somehow narcissism again that's narcissism by proxy that's
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that that it's interesting though I mean like if you have that is his definition
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of empathy yeah yes looking at if it hurts me yeah if this is an indication
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of something bad that's coming to me I experience it as bad that is not empathy
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anyway on the last episode on November 5th Alex said while he was talking to
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angles that angles was gonna come back on as well as Tyler Nixon Rogers lawyer
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sure and it turns out that is not gonna happen oh no and now in the second day I
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talked to our reporters and stones people they're so scared they won't even
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talk now they said the judge is going crazy this is about an hour ago in fact
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just about an hour ago talked her in a break the judge is going crazy
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threatening everybody we can't talk about anything well you know it's about
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this that we had mr. Ingalls on reporter from Florida who was there and what he
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said was true it was in Reuters it was in it was an AP I'm gonna show you what
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he said but media matters run by George Soros says I should be arrested for this
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this jury tampering media matters didn't say that in the article that I I read
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about this this instance I don't know what Alex is talking about hmm I would
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assume that maybe Roger told them not to go on yeah I would I would assume that
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that's a possibility because Roger is like I know what Alex does yeah I you've
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done enough yeah like we've created the capital of if I found guilty then I'm
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political prisoner the narrative is in place you can only do more damage exactly
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yeah you vote you wrote there's only down for you to go the more you talk
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the worse it anybody who's actually associated with me concretely my lawyer
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my assistant Jacob Ingalls yep just stay away from that for now it is too hot
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angle that's my guess angles nailed it here's what he did he said that there
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was a juror that had that information and then he winked yeah or coughed or
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waved a little bit yeah done don't say another fucking word he threw the bomb
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and Alex lit it like he's or whatever kind of metaphor you want to make like
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he is in the clear of whatever Alex's actions are he just said something that
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yeah Alex is the one who's committing all the crimes in it yep well again
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maybe whether they're legal or not right there are crimes there crimes against
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civility yeah but Alex now announces we're out these people they called it
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the first magic person that warning did not stop stone oh see he's bad lawyers
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from trying to strike the very first one a woman who once served as
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communications director for the White House Office of Management and Budget
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that's the most important office folks that's the money under Democratic
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President Barack Obama and whose husband is a Justice Department national security
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attorney we looked him up we're gonna expose him as well right now next
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segment Barnes is gonna start first he keeps teasing this out because
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obviously he wants people to know he's going to get this in order to draw as
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many eyes as possible hey just a stunt stop in your car right now roll down the
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window scream over Alex is about to reveal the jury so he's now learned that
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it's a communications director for the Office of Management and Budget which
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means that it's not Jennifer Palmieri who he said the day before and keep in
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mind that he says that he's dug into this husband of hers sure deep state
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operative all right we'll see what kind of deep research he's gonna present on
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that I like that he's like the Office of Management that's the important one
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that's where the money is the money no one has ever described the OMB as being
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the one where the money is well I mean it's got budget right I understand it's
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not budget written Emma so Alex has got Barnes in there and he knows that if
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this is presented in such a way that it appears that Alex is intimidating a juror
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yes then he could be in legal trouble bad so he has to explicitly say that
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they're not doing that that's not the same thing as not doing it you might
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argue that there's nobody out there who wants to in any way intimidate the juror
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or in fact the juror at all or any prospective juror at all the point is to
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know the identities of the jury so that people can independently make their own
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inquiries and judgment about whether the process is being done fairly you would
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want John Gotti's son as a juror his trial exactly I would argue that his
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audience that he's cultivated over the years they're digging into things and
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seeing if things are on the up-and-up is materially identical to harassment yeah
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historically speaking I do not trust them to be a brain trust of good
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researchers but but I mean that is that is what you call a disclaimer Barnes
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that's Barnes throwing out a Alex if we're gonna do this wow you say this
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that's and that's and he didn't even do it well he did it still sounded like a
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protection right look nobody wants anything bad nobody wants anything bad
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happen less than we do we don't want anything to happen the most bad right
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and that is why if you don't give us a hundred grand we're gonna release your
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name to the mob I just can't you know we don't want anything bad to happen yeah
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so Alex is pretending and announcing this as we have the person we know this
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is the person who is the potential juror which makes it bad that this is how he's
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describing his process well my process of elimination and going off our own
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reporters and Reuters and AP everybody's saying it was a woman whose husband
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works the Justice Department on the Mueller case and international
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espionage affairs they didn't say that there's only one woman who worked as the
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head of public relations for the Office of Budget Management in the Obama years
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and she was there in 2013 in 2014 so he's gearing up he knows that they said
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next segment we're gonna do this they still is not going to fucking put up and
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say this person's name right just yet he has to make this even more suspicious no
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Republicans are allowed on the jury but as he's saying that Barnes comes in I
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don't know how to describe this but I I feel like this is a little bit sexist to
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see how this judge is not letting any Republicans on but you were saying she's
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a woman like herself on another Obama point oh yeah I mean her background is
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professional class background Obama pointy sort of looks like what Hillary
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would look like looks like your iconic demographically fits your Obama pointy
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and in Hillary acolyte a white cat lady I mean a very professionally it's that
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professional class mindset I call it sort of like it's people who would have
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otherwise been first grade teachers now with the power of the judge what the
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power of the Senate or whatever power they have it's but they tend to leverage
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that power aggressively sending us to detention they put us in prison for
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speech one way to hear that I think it's difficult to hear that outside of like
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these women belong as first grade teachers not in government yeah they
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don't belong in public office like I I don't I don't know what point he's
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trying to make other than that what does she looks kind of like what Hillary
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Clinton would look like yeah even me I'm not sure I don't care I just it's just
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an insane say it's just an insane sentence yeah it's an insane sentence
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yeah so in this next clip Barnes lies a little bit more about the selection
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process of these jurors I mean by the logic she employed only people with a
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personal bias against Roger Stone we're gonna be excluded no one who had a
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strong bias against Trump was gonna be excluded and as you said the prosecutor
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is opened up today it's in the news yeah all about Trump Robert Barnes is a
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goddamn liar allow me to read to you from the Reuters article that Alex has
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referenced many times on this episode the headline of this story it's quote
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longtime Trump advisor Roger Stone takes ill during jury selection for trial
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here's what it says quote some prospective jurors were excluded
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because they indicated they could not put aside their dislike of Trump bias
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against Trump was definitely disqualifying for jurors Robert Barnes
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just made that shit up to make it look like this trial that was happening with
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Roger it's some kind of a setup that's because they need that to be the
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perception not to the reality the perception because they know he's
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fucking guilty as shit and they need preemptive spin Robert Barnes is not a
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lawyer he is a propagandist yeah if Roger is found guilty what does that
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mean for this entire operation Roger was working at Infowars at the time he was
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disseminating his info information on Alex's show his emails that involved the
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planning and coordination those were between himself and Alex's other
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employee Jerome Corsi if Roger is found guilty that introduces some really hard
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questions for Alex that he'd rather not deal with so the best way to do that is
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to preemptively argue to the audience that this case is a sham so no matter
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the outcome it means nothing it's the perfect strategy if your audience is
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stupid because if Roger ends up acquitted then you get to say that they
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tried to railroad him but he was so innocent that he still won this is all
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just parlor trips this is all that Alex has this is all that he does which
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shouldn't be surprising what's a little more offensive is that his lawyer is
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complicit in this charade I don't know how he wears many hats Dan on TV puts
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that propagandist hat on it says my god give me money and then when he gets out
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the door he puts the hat on that says I'm a bad lawyer I don't know how this
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process works but I think that Barnes's license should be absolutely no
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absolutely let's see if this is becoming behavior of someone who's allowed to
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practice law because I don't I don't know that it is so in this next clip we
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finally get down to business and Alex finally reveals the name of this
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supposed juror okay so let's get to it right now here is who lines up with the
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only woman that ran this office in PR the only one that has a husband the
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Justice Department the whole Muller thing Dr. McCamish I please Sylvia
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Matthews Burwell there she is 1965 she's born she met her husband the Bill of
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Melinda Gates Foundation and she was brought into government and worked
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directly under Bill Clinton you can go read all this for yourself ladies and
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gentlemen her husband again works at the Justice Department I argue very
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confidently that Alex Jones by the very nature of his show in his entire career
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is attempting to engage in jury tampering by making a big big production
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out of revealing this woman's name on air at the same time I'm not positive
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that that's something that could be proven in court and he may be within the
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realm of what's technically legal this is an offensive display and anyone who
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knows anything about Alex knows what he's trying to do but there's a good
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chance he won't have any legal consequences so whatever yeah but
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there's another reason why he may not get in trouble for this he absolutely
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got the wrong person again Jennifer Palmieri was the first this I knew it
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he's wrong again I knew he wasn't gonna get this one right because the moment he
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said oh we've we've narrowed it down this is the only woman I was like no you
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fucking didn't there were like 20 other women you're just fucking lazy I don't
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know who the actual person is and even if I did I wouldn't say their name on
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air I'm only discussing I only I was considering bleeping out the person's
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name Sylvia I was a little surprised you didn't I was considering doing that but
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in order to demonstrate how wrong Alex is and he's already put this name out
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yeah that's from the information available by Jacob angles as well as the
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stuff that was tweeted out by other court reporters who were on the scene
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the potential jurors specifically worked as a quote communications director at
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the Office of Management and Budget Sylvia Matthews Burwell never held that
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position she instead was the director of the Office of Management and Budget
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which is a different role Alex is so goddamn sloppy with his details that he
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doesn't recognize the difference between director and communications director and
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because he's so desperate for attention and to create a narrative that will
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invalidate Rogers eventual conviction he's just completely fucked up this
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story I feel like if Matthews Burwell receives any kind of harassment or
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threats because of this she may have a pretty solid case against Alex there's
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no reason for him to report that she was on this jury other than some identifying
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details that he got wrong and his alleged process of elimination honestly
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this sort of thing highlights why he can't understand that the ABC News
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video that project Veritas put out is full of shit he can't understand that
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journalistic outlets have standards for information that they report and they
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can't just say whatever the fuck they want damn the torpedoes he's made an
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entire career off not being careful at all getting everything wrong and being
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rewarded for it so it kind of makes sense that he couldn't see I really wish
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that when you put it that way it's not true yeah it's so sad but that's why he
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sees any kind of caution as proof of a grand conspiracy yeah of course Sylvia
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Matthews Burwell is not the potential juror but there's a further
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embarrassment here and it's that the potential juror Alex has been screaming
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about didn't even end up making the jury of course not he's all yelling about how
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she's gonna be the foreperson and she wasn't selected at all of course not I
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thought we're the judge the day after I would have been like well we don't even
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need to have a strike yeah nobody gets nobody needs to say anything she's just
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gone this is all nothing but it's potentially very dangerous for Miss
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Matthews Burrow Burwell there's no journalistic merit to what Alex is doing
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there's no further goal to this other than to create excuses for why his
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friend is probably going to jail if he wants to create alternative realities
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like this I mean it's his right to do that but at the point where his
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delusions become a danger to others it's well worth having a discussion about how
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he needs to be forced to get help yep even if this act isn't illegal it's the
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behavior of a severely mentally ill person Alex Jones is completely
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unraveling in front of our eyes largely because of the attention support and
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money that had been buffering him has been decreasing as his access to social
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media has gone away everyone around him needs to recognize that this is the path
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that he's on and it does not end well if anyone cares about him at all I implore
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you get Alex help if you care about him in any way I can't imagine like how you
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can let someone you love act like this and not step in it's disgraceful it's
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Alex it's it's it's I mean I hate to be preachy but like this is a lunatic who
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is now acting in ways that we've seen the consequences of his actions of the
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past yeah that led has led to targeted harassment of people he's fingered for
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no reason like we're seeing it consistently continue into the present
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and I just I feel like everyone who has an ability to persuade him or force him
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to get help that isn't doing it I just I cannot possibly understand why you
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would act like that he is he is a lunatic who is lashing out at people
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but just enjoy you are making me feel like I'm living in slaughterhouse five
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and I'm unstuck from time how is it that we can just literally spend a couple of
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episodes talking about Alex pulling off certain behaviors in 2013 and then do a
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present-day episode less than a week apart and he is performing those very
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same behaviors that's insane it's either that or he does it every single fucking
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day he does it a lot he does it a lot that's me because you have to consider
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that the reason that we're looking at these things in 2013 is because he's
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being sued I know it's determinative I I understand he's it's just how he
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operates I understand why we got where we are it's just that that's it's like
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fucking with your head at a certain point as the stakes get raised as his
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behavior deteriorates in these ways I just I mean I I wish him ill in the
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sense that I hope he feels the consequences of what he's doing but I at
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the same time like for everyone it's in everyone's best interest that he get
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help yeah no I would never want the like his all of his fantasies of like this is
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what we want to do to the globalist and all that shit only picks in their eyes
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only put more into stark relief what it is that I would like and that's like an
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empathy gun yeah I just want to fire a bullet in you that makes you feel
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everything that you've done to the people around you I think that Alex I
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mean like I think he's probably beyond being helped quite frankly but that
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doesn't mean that that's still not the solution trying to get him some like
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very serious psychological help because he's he is living you know what if he's
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living in a fictional world that this bizarre overarching anti-communist
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conspiracy and all this bullshit I'm not particularly all that interested in that
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yeah but to the point where he's disseminating this information widely
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pretending he's an expert in anything while getting everything wrong and
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engaging in a gigantic media spectacle that he's trying to pull off where he
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endangers people who are just private citizens absolutely people who have no
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business being pointed out and targeted by him yeah like that is where it
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crosses the line to like every single person around him all of his employees
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his wife everybody is complicit in this because there is a solution to this
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there is a 5150 you can put him on yeah you can call will provide material
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evidence he is a danger to others yeah he really is and it has nothing to do
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with politics no it has nothing to do with like now political beliefs or
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anything like that has to do with this racism if he was saying this and it was
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any other president or or political if he was on the left and he's revealing
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jurors fucking names in the hopes that his rabid fan base would do some very
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serious intimidation at best yeah then it doesn't matter if there's a an
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ideology behind it you're fucking crazy and if Alex were somebody who doesn't
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have that history that very clear history of this interaction between
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himself and his audience where there is harassment that goes around and he's
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very aware I would probably take it a little bit differently him saying a
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jurors name yeah on air oh I imagined yeah I think it would be a little bit
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different I would say well that's distasteful but I wouldn't look at it as
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a danger this is a danger like I don't think that anyone's gonna kill this
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woman or anything like that yeah but the yesterday no one cared about her at all
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I mean her family did yeah I'm not saying she was a worthless person but
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she was not in any kind of civil servant she was just I believe former civil
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server yeah yeah she wasn't in any kind of potential danger from Alex's
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audience or dumb shitheads where this might get reposted on Gateway Pundit or
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whatever she wasn't in that crosshair and now she is yep Alex has brought that
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into her life and that is a horrible thing yep so I don't know my basic point
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is someone take this seriously who can do something yeah a broken record yeah
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because I've said this many times before and every time he does stuff like this
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it's like well this is why he needs to get help well it's not like there aren't
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a unending list of people who have sat astride a crazy horse and taken their
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cut and then let it die whenever it's yeah you know yep that's that's a very
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common story among yeah great deal with that yeah people yeah there's an option
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anyway um I I stress whenever I'm saying these things about like he needs help I
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mean he needs help yeah I don't they don't think that anybody should hurt him
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absolutely not so Alex he said that her husband is involved in all this stuff
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too and this is the only real evidence he provides now let's show you her
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purported husband here that's Steven Burwell and here is a photo of Steven
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Burwell reportedly while she's being sworn in with Joe Biden so he looks like
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Eddie Haskell on steroids ladies and gentlemen so there you go what a nice
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group we have ruling over us that's the only evidence that he provides that he's
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involved in the Mueller investigation he was in a picture with Biden yeah okay
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the people who are the reporters on the scene were did tweet out that he is a
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lawyer for the Department of Justice sure and in the I believe it was in the
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National Security Division of Department of Justice so there if there is a
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possibility that he was involved in some small way but I don't I haven't been
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able to find any concrete evidence that ties him to any anything in particular
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or that he was a player in any in any way and the only evidence Alex has is
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that he is in a picture while she is being sworn in until I get at least two
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or three more corroborating pieces of evidence I'm not even gonna believe this
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guy is even her husband I am I don't believe I was deported husband yeah
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exactly I don't believe I get he might as he probably held up a photo of
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fucking grimace like this dude I don't believe anything the media though
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Jordan is trying to cover this all up oh are we I have no we're not the meat
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we're not the media again this is the total overthrow rule of law I mean my
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god the media won't even tell you that she was a high-level person with Obama
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and then her husband is in the whole Muller witch hunt I mean we have a right
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to know that it's still America no matter what you dangerous evil left to
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say so Alex is saying that the media won't tell you this stuff but at the
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same time he's quoting a Reuters article that says it yeah I don't understand
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what he's which is it which is it is the media covering it up or do you want to
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have a fucking source it is all that is none that is such bullshit is it is
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everywhere that is deeply abusive to his audience yeah yeah yeah now he is
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covering it up but here's a mainstream article about it his audience it's over
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with for them that's abusive to me yeah I don't like having to hear that shit
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yeah I'm not entirely sure why I cut this clip but I do know that there's an
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ad pivot in it okay this is ridiculous like having Hitler at the Nuremberg
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trial he'd be pro-nazi with this would he not just bring the damn gallows in
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there like you said Barnes and hang them so we're ending the everything must go
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super sale for free shipping double Patriot points and 40 70% off there's a
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whole lot of this on this episode I think it's because he knows that he's
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trying to draw in tons more of attention yeah you tease out the announcement of
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this person yeah so you might be saying that Alex said this person's name and
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outed them as a potential juror when he was wrong about it because he's bad at
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his job and he operates just knee-jerk badly yeah terribly yeah yeah but it's
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actually because he's a journalist that really doesn't sound true and he is not
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a coward I think that's not supposed to happen we're supposed to have
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impartial selection of judges supposed to be random selection random assignment
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of case but meanwhile the first juror called is the former head of the Office
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of Budget Management PR the former deputy director of it her husband works
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on the Muller probe and it's we're not supposed to tell you her name even though
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there's no law they're threatening everyone well we just told you because
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we're Americans and all this kiss and ass and being cowards has got us in a
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bad position what made America great was doing the right thing and being strong
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and not being a bunch of damn cowards we salute Robert Barnes for not being a
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damn coward I love the idea that like America is founded on not checking twice
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yeah we don't do rewrites we're like L Ron Hubbard first draft last draft and
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Alex on this show on the sixth he's not even addressing the fact that for the
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fifth on the episode of the fifth yeah he was saying it was Jennifer Palmieri
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yeah he's not even addressing like well we got it wrong at first but now here's
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the real person who are America great was never admitting that you got it
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wrong the first time dad yeah actually that might be true what actually made
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America great with snake oil salesmanship I want to slap Barnes in
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the face so bad that that like that the selection of judges is supposed to be
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impartial like really really one thing that everybody on the right
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universally praises Trump for is choosing judges they don't do it because
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he's choosing them for their impartiality Barnes certainly fucking
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lying piece of shit and you know that yeah how dare you yeah it's pretty it's
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pretty offensive that's offensive he's not a lawyer I mean technically he is
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but he's not a lawyer yes so anyway here's another gross ad pivot then of
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course you expose who jurors are so that they're open just like judges background
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or lawyers background or the people that are there are public but now they want
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it's all to be secret we're gonna be talking about that a lot more in just a
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moment you know speaking of the grim reaper
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DNA force plus ladies and gentlemen is the closest thing to what you're going
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to find out there that's the fountain of youth I'd like okay I'd like to point
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out that he was not speaking of the grim reaper hey I think he was saying that
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like these people are the bringers of right right something like that yeah
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it's like whoa that was not speaking of the group reaper this x3 is the fountain
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of youth I like that as a non sequitur yeah so he does a little bit of an ad
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for this product of his and then he gets into talking about like you know
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actually the angel of death was sent by God well that's you say the angel of
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death sent by God that the devil doesn't control the angel of death and you know
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if you put the red blood of the lambs there rice it's Passover that the angel
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of death will pass pass over your house when it goes after Pharaoh and the
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corrupt establishment that was about to be dealt with by God because Pharaoh was
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demanding the firstborn son of every Israelite as a Molochian sacrifice so
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there wouldn't be leadership there wouldn't anyone to resist the crown the
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boys were attacked by drag queen story time in the Prozac and the Ritalin and
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then and the and the attack on boys as was in the past as is again today things
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just repeat themselves as above so below but seriously DNA force plus Wow
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I think my eye is bleeding from that punch yeah that's that was pretty
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impressive oh god cut me cut me a lot a lot of weird salesmanship going on here
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that was just free association that wasn't even I don't know what he's the
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old man so well Alex has Owen Troyer in DC covering Rogers case sure he's on the
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scene he's got that he's got the big guns he's got the talent over there if
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anything made me laugh my ass off it's probably this next clip because Owens
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out there doing a man on the street thing trying to talk about how Rogers
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you know like he's it's unfair what they're doing to Roger Mike down for
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this because you got it you gotta love this the real lawlessness is this show
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trial that's the lawlessness not Alex Jones reporting on a juror that's
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nothing that's free speech that's truth so this is kind of like the Tommy
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Robinson thing here come here and say that sir come say that to my face you
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coward you're a coward get out of here you fascist coward you Nazi you're a
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Nazi coward get out of America you Nazi coward yeah you won't come talk to me
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you punk get out of my face sorry Alex you had a guy shouting me down out here
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the punk coward I find that to be so hilarious
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oh it sure yours in the middle of trying to do a remote and he gets to do a fight
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with a guy that's another one of those situations where it's like every time
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Alex swears and he really goes for it and you're like you don't know how to do
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this man what are you what are you doing if Owen does not know how to get into a
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fight with somebody doesn't sound like that is that is weird yeah it's it's
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very stilted that's robotic yeah yeah so the other problem is that he's also very
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stupid yo and Troyer is very dumb he knows two insults punk and coward and
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Nazi and fascist I don't think he thinks those are insults though so he's he's
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trying to talk about the juror situation and how them having her as a jury member
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means the whole case is fucked and he is highlighting a fundamental
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misunderstanding of how the legal system works every every member of the jury
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could sit here and be like yep stone was railroaded this is a show trial this is
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this was a rigged job kangaroo court but they've got the one juror that's all
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they need they now control the entire thing they control the judge they
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control the defense with the Democrat lawyers now they control the jury jury
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results I mean they literally have every angle covered now so the first important
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point here is that this woman was not put on the jury so she's not even there
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for the trial now they have even more control Dan Owens premise fails there
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just right off the bat man but he's also failing on a basic understanding of how
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our legal system works the argument he's trying to make is that because there's
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one person on the jury who's going to vote that Roger is guilty no matter what
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even if everyone else is not guilty Roger won't get justice this
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demonstrates a startling lack of understanding of the topic that he's
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covering while it is true that one person being skewed toward the defense
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could fuck up a prosecution that is true the same is not true in the reverse
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because our courts are based on the presumption of innocence until proven
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guilty if everyone but this one juror voted not guilty Roger could not be
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convicted a unanimous decision is required to convict so if the jury
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reached an impasse where this one globalist plant juror wouldn't budge it
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would end in a mistrial and then the state would either have to decide to
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drop charges or if they wanted to retry the case in no way could one guilty
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vote result in a conviction in the way that one not guilty vote would preclude
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a conviction seriously Owen Schroyer doesn't have the basic understanding
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that's required to have these sorts of conversations and he's putting this idea
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forth well talk like trying to correct an allegedly very competent lawyer you
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heard him at the beginning saying Bob Bob Bob he's talking to Robert Barnes
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who's supposedly a lawyer these people have a lot of feelings about what's
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happening in the world and I guess they're entitled to those feelings but
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they are just not equipped to have the adult conversations they're trying to
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have about actual topics I mean that's bananas yeah it's very he said when he
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said now that they have one juror they have the whole thing I I was searching
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for example like maybe maybe there he thinks that there's like that it's like
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there's a swing vote you know and they have like no no idea he's talking about
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a he's talking about a hung jury in a mistrial yes and he just has no idea how
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it actually works well what he's been and what he's imagining is the stories
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that you hear of people who like you know 11 of the jurors say guilty one
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says not guilty and therefore you can't convict he's reflecting that he's taking
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the opposite of that and imagining that it has the same sort of outcome yeah no
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his idea is essentially a hearing about 12 angry men I doubt he's seen it well
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it's also he's assuming that like okay let's say there's a mistrial then that
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default means Rogers guilty and it's not it's it's it's ridiculous so anyway we
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have one last clip here Jordan and Alex has made a big spectacle of this he said
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definitively that he knows who the juror is even though he was wrong the day
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before and he's also wrong again and so it makes it really sad when he ends the
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episode like this sort of waffling a little bit while still being hyper
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confident in full wars releases name of Obama official chosen for Roger Stone
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jury wasn't and it turns out she headed up Health and Human Services on top of
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it so what this is the only woman that was ever in that position that Politico
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and the Washington Post reported as the head spokesperson for Office of Budget
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and Management nope and the only woman who had a husband in the Justice
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Department working in the Muller probe and so nobody else will release it that
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appears to be who it is with about 99% probability 99% probability why are you
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why are you leaving that 1% dangling there Alex he used why is it always that
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the 1% ends up being right like why is the process of elimination Dan and as
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Nate silver and 538 have told us you I don't know what they say you can't
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operate like this you can't you just can't you can't do these sorts of things
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with bullshit process of elimination misunderstanding various job titles in
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order to make this fit whatever you want to do you just can't do the shit like
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this it I mean I guess you can but you should and you can be rewarded for it
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don't forget about that part it's just staggering to me the extent to which
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he's wrong yeah and that's what I'm saying every single time he's like I'm
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99% on this there's a 1% chance this was a real attack or it's always the one
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person it's always always the one person whatever that tiny percent he has that
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he might be wrong is always I think he's I think we're just experiencing Alex in
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the wrong multiverse for him it must be like in 99% of the multiverse is
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obviously he's correct about everything yeah it just so happens that you and I
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exist in the one where he's always wrong I mean if that's the case isn't that
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crazy tragic yeah yeah anyway I come to the end of this episode and what I'm
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left with is an overwhelming sense of sadness yeah I am sad because Alex is
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clearly diving deeper into the over white nationalist white supremacist
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leanings that he has as demonstrated in that coverage of the New Hampshire
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couple story where he's saying that it's you're allowed to do this because you're
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brown and white people need to get guns get ready to shoot people like that's
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really fucked up yeah very extent to which he's saying that his enemies need
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to be wiped off the earth not just murdered with ice picks a street
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lobotomy yeah yeah I'm sad about that that makes me really bummed out I really
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I really think that the world's better without rhetoric like that maybe and
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then I'm really sad about this desperate pathetic attempt to out this
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juror yeah like I think it's I think it's a pathetic attempt I think it's
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very sad he's demonstrating if anything his inability to research the
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incompetence of his team the sloppiness of his legal advisors who was like yeah
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go do that this is your duty to yeah yeah I I just I it's a bummer it's a
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bummer um and and further it's transparent like as soon as I got
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through listen to these episodes it was so fucking clear to me that this is the
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behavior of someone who knows that Roger is probably gonna be found guilty oh
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he's the most guilty this is a behavior to invalidate the trial before it begins
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yeah because that's what you got to do to protect whatever connection you have
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to him yeah and that's not empathy yeah I I think that when people cover stuff
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like this it would be wise to understand that that is the motive that Alex has it
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is possible that there is also a motive of trying to intimidate this juror
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tamper with the jury it is possible that is somewhere within his mind that is
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that is possible and it's also further possible that that will be the real
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world consequence of this yeah and it's not probably wise to ignore that I'm not
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advocating people ignore that but it would be wise for people to lead any
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kind of story about this with why Alex is doing this is because like lay out
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the connections to info wars that are very clearly part of the Roger Stone
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case yeah and be like Alex needs preemptive justification for when his
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friend is probably found guilty to continue the perception the reality
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conversation I would guarantee that Alex would never say or doesn't believe like
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in his perception he's like I am NOT trying to in a tamper with anybody I'm
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not trying to intimidate anybody I truly believe that I am doing my best to help
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these people and I'm trying to invalidate the trial before it happens
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I'm not trying to hurt anybody but I'm totally trying to invalidate the trial
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because the trial is just a kangaroo court anyway yeah yeah I mean Alex's
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perception of what he did when he was super drunk and screaming about a
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million-dollar bounty on the opposing counsel exactly look case he doesn't
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think that is intimidation or and yet the reality is different right yeah so
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it all comes back to that Alex's lead story on the fifth is damning for him I
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know as reality does exist every time he's like I fucking I've got something
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really valuable and important to say I've looked deep in the mirror and I see
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that everything that I do is wrong and I'm gonna express that to you as me
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being right mm-hmm you're like Jesus all right man
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yeah good luck Alex yeah so we'll be back on Monday but until then we have a
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website we do it's knowledgefight.com yep we're also on Twitter we are on
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we'll be back but until then I'm Neo I'm Leo I'm DZX Clark I'm the director of
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Office of Management and Budget Andy in Kansas you're on the air thanks for
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holding well Alex I'm a first-time caller I'm a huge fan I love your work
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I love you
