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Andy in Kansas, you're on the air, thanks for holding.
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Hello Alex, I'm a first time caller, I'm a huge fan, I love your work.
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I love you. Hey everybody, welcome back to Knowledge Fight, I'm Dan. I'm Jordan!
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We're a couple of dudes, I like to sit around, drink novelty beverages, and talk a little bit about
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Alex Jones. Indeed we are, Dan! Yup. Dan! Jordan.
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What was the last job you quit? The last job I, well I mean the last job I quit was
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the accounting job over at that coffee distributor.
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I forgot that you quit that, I thought it was that it had gone out of business.
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No, I had fears that it was going to, but it appears that it's still going strong, and it might have been
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my fault that it seemed like it was going out of business, because I am not an accountant.
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I don't know what I was doing in that job. How about before that?
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Like really quit a job, you know what I'm saying?
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Like a real blowout kind of quit? I want to, yeah. I can tell you my favorite story of that, but it's a
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long time in the past. Then let's do that. This is back from Missouri.
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I worked at an office depot. Oh okay, well then this is gonna be a great story.
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It was a terrible, terrible job, because a lot of it involves like lifting heavy pallets
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of paper and putting them up way up, like 15 feet in the air or whatever, and you know
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we don't have forklifts, you're just walking up ladders with huge boxes of paper, it was miserable.
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The guy who trained me was this guy who was like really into evangelizing, so most of
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the time he was talking to me about God, and I was just like, I don't want, I don't want
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any of this, I don't want any of this. There was one person who worked there who was really
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nice to me. She was like maybe around my age or a couple years older, somewhere in that
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range, and we struck up a little bit of a friendship, and then like maybe a week into
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me working there, it turned out she wanted me to swing with her and her husband.
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Alright, alright. How old were you at the time?
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I was 20, 21. Oh, okay. Well then yeah, that's fine.
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It wasn't fine. That's fine.
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I wasn't, I wasn't. Sometimes you fuck a coworker and her husband, that's fine.
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If I could go back, I might take them up on it, but at that point, no. I was not there
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for that. Totally get it.
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I wasn't evolved and into my own sexuality yet at that point.
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So I'm still working on it. It's a process. So I'm working there, and
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the boss is also just a complete asshole, and I have to be at work generally at like
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six in the morning. It's just awful. It's a miserable job. I haven't worked there all
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that long, and one day I just wake up, and I'm sitting around with my roommate, Nicky
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Gifts. He was also up, and I'm like, I don't want to go in. He's like, you don't have to.
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I'm like, you're right. So it's really early in the morning, and I
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call in, and I realize like, I don't want to go to work, but I also don't want to take
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responsibility for not wanting to go to work. Right.
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So I call him, and I'm like, hey boss, can't make it in today. My car's not working. And
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he's like, can you get a taxi? I'm like, I don't have any cash, man. I can't get a taxi.
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I'm sorry. I just can't make it in. I'll pay for your taxi.
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Exactly. Oh yeah.
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That was his next fault. Oh, so fast.
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And so then I'm like, I don't want you to have to pay for me to come into work.
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No, no, no, no. I need you here today. Today's an important day.
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I'm like, look man, I feel bad taking your money for a cab. He's like, all right.
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No, I'm willing. It's not even my personal money. It's the office's money.
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And he let go of it quicker than you did. And he was like, okay, I'll get an employee
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to come pick you up then.
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Oh damn.
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And I realized that I had nowhere else to go.
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No, there's no, you just got to quit after that.
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I was just like, look man, I'm not coming in. So he just yells, fuck you and heads up
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on me.
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That was the Jesus guy, right?
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No, no, no.
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Oh, okay.
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He was not the boss. He was just my trainer. That was a miserable time. That was one of
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my, my championship. I guess maybe you could say I got fired from that job, but I was,
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I was thrilled for it to come. There's so many, there's so many instances in life where
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you have those, like those moments where you realize like, you think it's going to be a
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big deal. And then afterwards he was like, just a weight is lifted. You can not have
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that job.
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Yeah. Yeah. You could just not do it. I didn't understand that.
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I know there's some privilege too in terms of like, I lived in Columbia, Missouri. Rent
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was almost nothing. And there were jobs aplenty. So it wasn't like, you know,
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Or at least jobs aplenty that would pay almost nothing in rent.
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Right.
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Exactly.
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The circumstances were perfect to be able to do something like that.
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Right, right, right, right.
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God, I've had a lot of jobs. I've had so many fucking jobs.
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My favorite quitting story was me not quitting because I didn't understand that I was an
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adult and could just go, I don't work here anymore. I worked at a shitty, like a lumber
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yard for nearly two and a half weeks. And I realized two and a half weeks in, I was
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like, I hate this. Every moment of it, I don't like being there. I don't like the people.
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I don't like anything. And I realized that I had recently like cut my elbow in this accident.
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And it was already my surgically repaired elbow from when I was younger. So I was like,
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okay, all right, I can sell this. I can work with this. Right. Right. And I didn't think
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it looked bad enough. So what I did was I got a knife.
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Oh my God.
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And I took this open wound and I just started sawing at it for real. No, seriously. Swear
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to God. I know I'm a lunatic because I didn't understand. I could just quit. I thought I
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came up with the worst fake injury that I made.
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It's not like an injury gets you out of the job. Nope. Nope. Maybe workman's comp. Well,
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it was, it was a, uh, I grabbed shit from things in a forklift. So as I assume if you
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have to be able to use your elbow in order to do so, but that'll heal. So that was so,
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but that was my argument for being like, Hey, I'm going to have to take all this time off
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and you know what? I just, I think you guys should find somebody else for the job. That
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was the way I put it. You had to be like a, as like a, an act of altruism. I was like,
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listen, I'm quitting, but not because I don't want to do this, but because you need somebody
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who's more reliable and who's not going to get hurt. It's not you, it's me. Exactly.
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100% how I quit that job. Are you asking this because this is your way to ease into quitting
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the podcast? No, absolutely not. Okay. I'm asking this because, uh, our, our boy, my
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boy, mad dog, Madison's gone. That is true. He is quitting. It's a lot of quitting going
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on, but something I can't quit is loving our donors. I like to give a shout out to a couple
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of new donors who have signed up with the podcast. First of all, Caleb, thank you so
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much. You are now a policy wonk. I'm a policy wonk. Thank you, Caleb. Thank you very much,
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Caleb. Secondly, Kim, thank you so much. You are now a policy wonk. I'm a policy wonk.
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Thank you, Kim. Thanks, Kim. Thirdly, Bobby, thank you so much. You are now a policy wonk.
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I'm a policy wonk. Thank you very much, Bob. And finally, this is someone who, uh, donated
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and then bumped it up later before we were able to give them the original policy wonk
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shout out. So I would like to just say, uh, Lisa, you are now a technocrat and thank you.
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I'm a policy wonk. Go home to your mother and tell her you're brilliant. Someone, someone
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sodomites sent me a bucket of poop. Daddy shark. Bop, bop, bop, bop, bop. Jar Jar Binks
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has a Caribbean black accent. He's a loser. Little, little titty baby. I don't want to
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hate black people. I renounce Jesus Christ. Thank you so much, Lisa. Thank you very much,
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Lisa. If you were listening out there and you'd like to support the show, we would appreciate
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it. You can do that by going to our website, knowledge fight.com, clicking that button
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that says, support the show and bada bing bada boom. That's where you go. That's it.
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Then you're a policy wonk. You're just like Paul Ryan who also quit. Yes, he did a lot
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of quitters. It's, it's amazing. Uh, how much wonkery he did policy while he was, uh, what
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did he, he had good ideas. Did he have good ideas? People have said that I thought he
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was about the deficit, which I assume has completely disappeared under his fixed it.
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Oh, okay. Good. So, um, one thing I want to say before we get going, first of all, there's
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a podcast where I know a lot about Alex Jones and I only know what you tell me about, but
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there's also a podcast where from time to time we've got to do a little thing called
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the spice report. Uh, everyone knows. Oh, okay. I'm a guy. I literally had no idea what
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you're talking about. Is this a segment we did two years ago that I forgot about? Kind
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of. It's a segment from my old podcast that people need updates on. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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You like spicy. Yeah, yeah. That I got, I'm on the wall of a Thai restaurant here in town.
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I've tried the off off menus too spicy for the menu. A chicken fingers over at the, uh,
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the Nashville hot place here in town. I've bested a lot of the challenges that have come
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my way, but it's very difficult to find like super hot peppers here in Chicago. Uh, I don't
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know why we're one of the biggest cities in the country, but yet I cannot find a store
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that sells really hot, hot sauces or peppers. And so I'm sort of red lining. Maybe I'm left
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in a lurch. Everybody tells me go to the Indian grocery store. Everyone tells me go to the,
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uh, the Asian grocery stores. I've tried some of the ones that I've been able to find and
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I have been left lacking. However, I accidentally stumbled into a spice shop today and Jordan,
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I found puree. Oh wow. Of Carolina Reaper. That is, that is not a sauce. That's literally
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just puree. That's just a bunch of hot peppers poured into a, it is just Carolina Reapers
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and vinegar in there. Oh boy. Oh boy. Is it hot? It's pretty hot. It's, it's great. Does
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it taste good? It tastes very good. Cause that's another issue you have with so many
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hot sauces. You don't like hot for hot sake. And I don't prefer a ghost pepper because
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there's a muskiness to it that I'm not a, I'm not a super big fan of. I think this tastes
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great but boy it's hot. And that has been the spice report. I really wish that you could
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try some of it, but I know you would never consent to it. Dude, no, I can't do it. Um,
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it's great. But also now I realize that, I mean it, it is technically like, I guess the
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world's hottest pepper and now there's nowhere else to go. Are you getting wistful? Have
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you climbed atop the mountain and now have no more worlds left to conquer? I'm not. I'm,
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I'm fine with it because I think a lot of different peppers have different flavors and
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different like sort of characteristics to them. And so there's still a lot more to explore
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and all that. And it's different if you have a puree than a fresh. Sure. So there's still
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plenty of spicy things in my, my future to go into. But I will say I put a good bit of
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it on some ramen earlier, mix that shit all up. Oh boy. And in terms of like heat level,
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that's very serious, but it's pretty close to like a level, level seven or eight at the
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Thai place. There's, they've got higher levels. They got higher levels. Yeah. The record is
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a guy who ate like 20 or something like that. No, it, uh, yeah, he was an actual ghost though.
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He may have been later on the toilet. Ghost on the toilet. My point is, my point is very
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serious, very hot, but uh, I don't know what my point is. Anyway, it's just an announcement.
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I finally found some Carolina Reaper sauce and it's a fine. Oh boy. Dan made me sweat
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a lot. Dan, much like Alexander the great at 26 crying salt tears for there are no more
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worlds left to conquer. Perhaps. Yes. So this has been 11 minutes of bullshit up top. It
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has nothing to do with Alex Jones talking about some peppers and about quitting jobs.
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But this is a podcast about Alex Jones, so it only is right that we jump into it. Absolutely.
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So Jordan, today what we're going to be doing is going over December 18th and 19th, 2018
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present day business. Now, one of the reasons that I wanted to do present day is we seem
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to be coming into this pattern where we do a present day at the end of the week. I don't
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mind like a weekend wrap up. Yeah, that kind of thing. And also this week has been a fraught
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with peril for Alex Jones. There's been a lot of stuff that's been going on. He had
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that Flynn sentencing hearing that did not go great. That was kind of confusing on a
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lot of fronts. I think everybody was a bit taken aback by that. Particularly Michael
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Flynn. Yeah. And his lawyer. Very strange. Wait, wait, wait. They recommended nothing.
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They recommended nothing. And then the judge is like, Hey, surprise dudes. You for real
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committed treason. It's called a recommendation. I'm not sure what that judge was doing editorializing
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like that. I don't know. I don't, I don't know if that's fully appropriate, but a lot
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of people on Twitter seem to love it. So I don't know. I don't know what to make of it,
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but judges pretty crazy. Yeah. I mean, why not? So your wild oats on that batch. I mean,
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you, you see so many judges all of a sudden come out of nowhere and declare the entirety
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of the ACA unconstitutional. Judges are wackadoo. So that was one piece of the week that I thought
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Alex would really be, you know, into and complaining about and trying to spin. But more importantly,
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the reason we're starting on the 18th on Tuesday is because on Monday night news broke that
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Roger Stone had settled a defamation lawsuit against him coming from a man named Miles
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Kwok. The suit was about how Roger Stone kept saying that he had, this Kwok had made illegal
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contributions to Hillary Clinton and was working against Trump in concert with Steve Bannon.
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Also Roger kept accusing Kwok of having been convicted of financial crimes in the United
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States. Right. This is demonstrably not true. So Miles Kwok sued Roger Stone for $100 million.
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That's a good amount. Roger Stone completely fucked up here. And so he called Kwok and
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asked him to settle the lawsuit, which Kwok graciously agreed to do because he's Roger
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Stone, though. He refused to take any responsibility, saying that he, his angle on it was he, quote,
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failed to do his own research and improperly relied on former Trump campaign adviser Sam
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Nunberg. Is he a time traveling Loki now? What is going on here? So he threw Sam Nunberg
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under the bus. Of course. Who was the guy who got drunk and went on all those those
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talk shows. Remember that? Remember Sam Nunberg? No. He was that guy who was clearly drunk
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on CNN and the host was like, I can smell alcohol. No. Really? Yeah. No, I've never
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I've never watched CNN. Well, it made the rounds. But this is how much of a fucked up
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world we live in now. That should be the kind of thing that we remember 20 years from now
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as a monumental TV fuck up. A drunk guy on television on a nationally syndicated news
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program. That's a whole different story. A drunk guy who's talking shit about the president
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and his employees who who until recently was like, yep, it was embarrassing for everybody.
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And now Roger Stone is repurposing him as the fall guy for this bad information that
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he reported on led to one hundred million. That's good. That's a clever that's a clever
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take on it. So Kwak agreed to drop his suit, provided that Roger post a retraction to Infowars,
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his Facebook page and Roger's own Web site, The Stone Zone. Unfortunately, this is how
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things work. You know, propagandists make outrageous and libelous claims which cause
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damage immediately. Then often they get away with it. But even when they're sued, they
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pull that all shucks who me act and the better natures of the person who's suing them are
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exploited. Roger is going to print a retraction, but the damage has already been done and no
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one who heard the original slander will care about the retraction. Absolutely. They'll
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either be like, oh, this is so smart. This is how he gets out of having to pay this guy
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money. Or it'll just be like, ah, Roger, just it's a globalist plot against him or whatever.
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Discount everything and they'll still be able to believe everyone still believes whatever
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he said initially. Retractions don't matter. Alex pretends that he has apologized to everybody
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who he slandered. No one. None of his fans give a shit. Yeah. If we had the chance to
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give advice on anybody who's running their next defamation lawsuit, which I'm sure I'm
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sure they will do. Call us. Believe me, we will give you amazing advice through the whole
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process and that will be settled. That will be get every fucking cent out of those guys
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that you could ever possibly get and leave them destitute on the street or punish them
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further like an apology or retraction or whatever. I know that that's probably what is in the
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realm of decency and whatever you think is like, well, they said this, the right thing
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is that they just say that they were wrong. We are fighting indecent men. Exactly. These
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are, these are people with bad faith and uh, you need a little bit more than just a retraction.
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I'm not saying send them to the poor house or anything like that. Like a hundred million
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dollars is a pretty crazy high amount. No, I love it. It's, I love it. It's a great starting
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point. It's ambitious. That is, that is like the reverse of Dr. Evil in Austin Powers where
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he says $1 million and everybody laughs at him. A hundred million is for suing just some
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asshole. That's a good starting point. I like it. I would say like, uh, you, instead of
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a retraction, what you have to do is do a interview with that person. Like a Miles Kwok
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gets to sit down and broadcast on info Wars talking to Roger Stone. Ooh, that's nice.
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Because then Roger can't lie to his face or whatever. I don't know. I don't know. That
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doesn't satisfy me. Nothing will be satisfying. No, I, here's what I would go with. Let's
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go with a more creative punishment as opposed to retro beauty. It needs to involve humiliation
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somehow. We, I Rogers, I would like all of Roger Stone's suits and he is never allowed
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to buy another suit again. I'm fine with that. If I get the hats, some fancy fucking hats.
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We divide his wardrobe and his wardrobe from here on out is jeans and a t-shirt. His hats
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might be useless to me though. He has a strange shaped head. Not important. It's not about
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wearing them. It is for me. Those are some nice hats. Yeah, but you would never fit into
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Roger Stone hat. Probably not. I also have a giant hat. You gotta, you got a bit of a
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dome on you. Yeah, I know. I'm sorry. So anyway, this news broke on Monday night, so I thought
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for sure on Tuesday, Alex is going to be furious about this because the way the news covered
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it and like the Hill and I believe Huffington post also, they reported it accurately. But
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what they do is they use these headlines that lead people to go a little bit off track.
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So they said that Roger Stone settles lawsuit and has to admit he published fake stories
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on info wars, which technically is true because he was the person who was making these claims
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info wars reported them and they published them. Absolutely. That is strictly true. But
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of course people ran with it and were like, he admitted he lies all the time on there.
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And so I thought for sure Alex was going to be like, they're just trying to make me out
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to be a liar and all this. And so I was surprised to hear this at the beginning of the show
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as he's running down his headlines for the day. MK ultra far worse than previously known
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special report. Roger Stone will generation Z. Save us from our millennials. Roger Stone
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is watching video registered in history of pedophilia and the political left. Gregory
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in full wars.com is going to get to the news about Roger Stone expert Bitcoin soon worthless.
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Big surprise. We're going to get to the news about Roger any moment now and can produce.
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There's no way to pick your top stories with all this. I don't, I don't, I don't, I don't
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know what that is except like a man trying to distract himself. Like it's insane. He
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sounds so resigned to, he's like MK ultra worse than, and then there's pedophiles. Am
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I, are we still doing pedophiles? I guess we're still doing pedophiles. I will, I will
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damn Alex with faint praise here and say that like he's been surrounded by a lot of fucking
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con men who do Bitcoin scams. He's had a number of people who have been like, he said, what
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about max? How's max coin doing on the market? I think it's still at like a 10th of a second.
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I'm not sure. Oh boy. But like he, max Kaiser is someone who has tried to get him into Bitcoin.
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He's had like Dave Seaman on the show and stuff like that. He's had a lot of these,
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these fraudsters running around trying to get him to be the, the next big endorsement
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of Bitcoin in order to pump and dump basically Alex Jones to endorse it. A bunch of his people
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buy it, the price goes up, get rid of it, get rid of it, call it, leave them holding
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the bag. Exactly. Simple scam. And to his credit, he has always resisted it. So when
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he's saying Bitcoin will soon be worthless, I kind of feel good about him saying that
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because it is something he's, he's never denounced. But at the same time, every time he talks
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about it, he's like, I just don't get it. I don't think this is good. He just doesn't
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get it though. Like unlike many financial analysts who are like, I don't get why people
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are doing this. Alex just doesn't understand it as a concept entire, but he's been tricked
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into so many things he doesn't fully understand before. I don't know why he's had the restraint
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on this one. Might, might be because of his just like innate love and 20 year career as
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a shill for a guy who sells gold and silver. Right, right, right. He might just be obsessed
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with hard currency. It has to be physical. I think there's a part of that. But I don't
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know, whatever the case, the next story after that is a study about how fresh vegetables
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are better than canned vegetables. And then he says, how do you pick a top story? Yeah.
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How do you pick a top story? It's amazing. Dan, how do you pick a top story? Fresh vegetables
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are better than canned vegetables. Holy shit. Top story. Who thunk it? Solved it. Wow. That's
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that's the trick. I am amazed. I'm not. I'm amazed that makes the cut. I am actually,
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I'm actually shocked that you are surprised by this because my, my first thought, whenever
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you said like, I'm surprised he goes off on this was like, oh, he actually talks about
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it because what's not surprising to me is that he is just avoiding it entirely without
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any interest whatsoever. Sometimes I'm being facetious. Okay, fine. Well then. So then
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after that, Alex moves along to talk about how there's, there's trouble afoot over at
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Fox News. What's our top story? It's not this. I've talked to many of the top Fox News host
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who have been called into rooms the last two years and screamed at that they better turn
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against Trump or they will be removed off the air. About two years ago, Fox became very
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anti-Trump for a while. They lost half their ratings, ran back and allowed people to be
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pro Trump and all the listeners came back. But Sean Hannity never waivered. When Tucker
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Carlson was brought on, he was not a hundred percent behind Trump. And so that's why they
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thought he was a good guy. But once he saw the stakes, he's become pro Trump and he's
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in the crosshairs. Whatever. Sure. I don't care about this. It's really just because
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Alex is mad because his buddy Judge Andrew Napolitano has been going all over TV saying
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like, I think that Mueller can call for the indictment of a sitting president.
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Two months ago, Alex was saying that, and, and thank God his angle was, thank God this
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is the case. Napolitano next Supreme Court judge. Now Napolitano is going around, he's
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going around TV saying that Mueller can indict the president because he's not the next Supreme
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Court judge. So that's possible. And now Alex is ruined by it. He is furious. He can't stop
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like, you think you know your friends. That's and Napolitano is still on the show though.
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Right. What are you talking about? He's on Fox News. He's not on Alex's. I thought he
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was on Info Wars. No, no. Okay. He's been a guest in the past. Okay. That's what I'm
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I think one episode we covered, they did a weird thing where they were broadcasting together.
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That's right. It was super uncomfortable. But yeah, it's, it's, it's fun. Alex is sort
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of realizing that some of his friends are more sensible than others and the sensible
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ones are starting to be like, that's such a weird position to be in where it's like,
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uh, the friend that I trust the most is going to go to jail and has just been successfully
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forced to print a retraction. The least possible punishment you can get. Here's what the punishment
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was. Uh, journalistic diligence. If you were wrong, poster retraction, that's the punishment.
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Even if it, even if Sam Nunberg did tell you this stuff, you can't report that. Like you,
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you can't, you didn't say like when he was, I've heard Roger talk about Miles Kwok before.
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He never says, Sam Nunberg told me he's a criminal. Yeah. Which would have given him
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so much headway. Never said anything like that. He's like, this guy is a fucking criminal.
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He belongs in prison. Right? The guy I trust the most. Well, he's going to jail. The guy
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that I used to trust, he is giving a milk toast legal argument that makes sense. Oh,
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it's brutal. Which one do I trust? And I'm going to stick with Roger Stone, ride or die.
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So he goes to break and he comes back and he starts a weird sort of, uh, just a little
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bit of a diatribe. Uh, it ends up, it's about PewDiePie and we're not going to talk too
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much about that, but the way he gets into it is really interesting. This is the really
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interesting part. They do hot speech. I like rom stain. You know why we came in with rom
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Stein, one of the most popular bands out of Germany in the last 20 years, because this
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is the exact type of crap the left engages in where they claim they're a Nazi band because
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they speak German. They're actually a leftist band that I would pretty much call anti-German
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though the music is pretty interesting. Wait, but you see, I first learned about their music
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20 years ago or so and lost highway. Weird. It's a great film. It is a great film, but
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to understand what's happening with PewDiePie, you have to understand the entire globalist
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program and then it's going into high gear and it's final phase of the extinction of
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speech. So I love this angle. His argument seems to be that, uh, you know, these people
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are calling PewDiePie a Nazi and it's just to attack him in the same way they did to
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rom Stein, which I'm going to talk about them a little bit here, but you're going to talk
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about a band from 20 years ago that you know an inexplicably large amount about. I think
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the reason people think they're Nazis is really interesting and it wasn't many people. I thought
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it was obvious that they weren't Nazis. No, it is to most people. There are a couple things
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that deserve discussion about this, but there are people, there are groups in the past who
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have come out who seemed innocuous and all, and then it turns out, oh, they have fascist
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leaning. Like a, like a chumbawump, chumbawumba or whatever. They're fascist. Yeah. They are
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fascist leaning. Isn't that crazy? Yeah. So you have, you have these things that you start,
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you know, you end up learning things about bands that you didn't know about and music
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and celebrity entirely is the, is the realm of like people coming up with a rumor about
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a band and it spiraling out of control or whatever. But the thing that I think is fascinating
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is that Alex is like, I became aware of them from the lost highway soundtrack. I mean,
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it's a good soundtrack, but chumbawump, not chumbawumba. Rammstein has two songs on that
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soundtrack and they were not hits. The hits from that soundtrack were the perfect drug
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by Nine Inch Nails. I by Smashing Pumpkins and then there's a third, but I can't remember
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what it was, but it wasn't Rammstein. It's not, oh, is that Marilyn Manson song? I can't
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remember what it was called. Fuck. Who cares? The point is like, Alex had to have listened
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to that soundtrack. Like he had to have really liked that soundtrack. I had that soundtrack
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when I was a kid. I jammed out to it. Really? Yeah. I really liked that I by Smashing Pumpkins
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and The Perfect Drug. I thought those were awesome. And I was probably 12 when it came
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out. I am surprised. I might've been younger than 12. Why, how could you, why would you
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have the lost highway soundtrack if you, cause wait, so you're, did you also see the movie
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when you were 12? No, no, no, no. I heard I on the radio. Oh, okay. I heard that Smashing
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Pumpkins song on the radio. So you then got the soundtrack. And then later I saw the movie
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and I thought it was interesting and stuff, but no, my parents would never let me watch.
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I was going to say. My parents were very, it's shocking even that I had, I had to have
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been older than 12. First album I ever bought was Alanis Morissette's Jagged Little Pill.
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Yeah, but that's. And my parents made me return it. Really? Cause the language was too offensive.
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I'm sorry. This generation defining album is a little bit too offensive for you, Dan.
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Well, there was that go down on you in a theater line. There was that one hand in my pocket
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and the other one is a. Hey, don't say it on this show. Yeah. My parents are like, this
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is scandalous. Nothing more humiliating than going back to the mall to return my Alanis
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Morissette CD. Cause my mom made me. God, not a great childhood. Can you imagine the,
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the, the, the guy who is taking that CD back? What must he have been thinking after he saw,
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after he saw you buy Jagged Little Pill, an album where he was like, yeah, man, everybody
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loves this album. Yeah. It's a great album universally enjoyed full of hits. You have
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to bring it back and say, my mom told me, I told him that, but my demeanor probably
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said it for me, I would assume. So anyway, Alex is a real idiot talking about Rammstein
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to make a point about people like Pewdiepie being called a Nazi. We've already seen that
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he has no idea that their song America that he plays as a bumper is explicitly anti-America
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anti-colonialist pro multicultural as a song. So it would be easy just to discount this
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as Alex being stupid, but it actually brings up an interesting point. What's that? Rammstein
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belongs to a genre of music that relies heavily on provocation and sensationalism. And so
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their music has often been intended to shock. Thus they make allusions to and jokes about
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a whole lot of taboo topics. This sort of behavior led to strong rebukes from the right
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wing, not the left, when the band broke, when the song Duhast came out. No, that doesn't
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sound right. The right wing getting angry at music? That doesn't sound, that, no. It's
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not their thing. No, come on, Dan. One of the chief issues is that they use a vocal
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style of speaking German that is intentionally amplifying the harshness and hardness of the
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German language. It's a beautiful language. They're doing that as a stylistic choice to
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make their sound more confrontational, which is a huge element of their success. However,
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it's also a speech pattern and style that is largely associated with Nazi speeches,
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particularly Hitler's, especially for people with a limited awareness of tons of manners
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of speech. Yeah, of course. The members of Rammstein grew up in East Germany during the
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period before the Wall came down. Their name is a direct reference to the Rammstein-Erser
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disaster of 1988, where 70 people died and 346 more were seriously injured at a West
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German air show at the US air base there. They're into antagonizing people. It's part
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of their craft. Oh, also in 1988, they used footage from a Leni Riefenstahl film in their
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video for the song Stripped. So that also kind of, that led to a bit of a, hey guys,
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what are you doing? Why are you using Leni Riefenstahl footage in this, like what artistic
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point are you trying to make? And if you understand them more fully in terms of like trying to
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antagonize people, trying to make a statement out of this, it makes sense. But the critiques
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there weren't coming from left wing people who wanted to label them a Nazi. It was two
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bands that were on the same record label as them that were like, what the fuck? That was
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the criticism that was coming about them using Leni Riefenstahl footage. So like all of the
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critiques that Alex is talking about come from people who don't understand what their
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music is and almost to a man, were not in the camp that he is trying to pretend that
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they are. Yeah, I'm shocked by that. Like I've always understood Rammstein to be like
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a literal, hey, we looked at German history, we're not fans, and here's the music that
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we think best represents how we're going to fucking fight these. And as we can see now,
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not just remnants of fascism, but very strong undercurrents of fascism that still permeate
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Germany through this day. And another element of it too, though, for them in terms of their
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sort of mystique and vibe and why people might, especially outside of Germany, look at them
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and be like, what the fuck? Is that they got banned from performing choreography for one
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of their songs in Germany because it was deemed offensive and dangerous to children. Yeah.
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Because they would do things like simulate anal sex with sex toys on each other and stuff
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on stage. They were fucking wild. I assume guar is not allowed anywhere near Germany,
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right? Probably. But so they were banned and like one of their album covers was even banned
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from being displayed in German stores and stuff like that. So they had this aura of
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being looked down on and censored and stuff like that. But in Germany, you can totally
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understand their laws erring on the side of caution towards anything along those lines.
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You know, you get it. No, I understand that. You see, you see how a course correction might
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go a little bit too far in the opposite direction based on the, you know. My point is more that
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like anybody who had critiques of Rammstein in that direction back then weren't in the
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camp that Alex is pretending they're in. And they were very vocal about talking about those
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accusations even back then and being like, fuck, no, it's not what we're into. And then
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everybody's like, oh, sorry. Cool. Sorry. All right. So you know what? We missed it
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the first time, but now that you pointed it out, you make a great pool. You're right.
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We're moving on. You're still Rammstein. We're still us. Let's just have a great time. So
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that's one musician. And then Alex launches into this whole thing about they're calling
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PewDiePie a Nazi because they want to silence him because he's too powerful. I thought it
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was because he was a Nazi. Seems that way. Or at least doesn't seem to understand the
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conversation that's being had about him promoting people who have iffy beliefs or thinking it's
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funny to have people hold up a sign that says kill all the Jews, that sort of thing. Who
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knows? Anyway, I don't want to unpack the PewDiePie stuff because what Alex is talking
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about isn't even real about PewDiePie. So it's irrelevant. It's about Alex. He's using
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PewDiePie as a surrogate for his own feelings. I don't understand. But what? He talks about
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Rammstein there and then he talks about another musician that I have more feelings about.
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Ted Nugent can fill up stadiums of 20,000, 40,000 people. He's been told, stop supporting
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Trump and we'll let you play in stadiums again. But only three companies own the big stadiums.
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So Ted Nugent can't play basically anywhere except city-owned coliseums like Waco. No,
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but because he won't play ball, he loses $15 million a year. How do you know that? That's
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directly from Ted Nugent. I looked it up in publications. Ah, that makes sense. It's directly
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from Ted. I heard it. There we go. I heard it from Ted directly from Ted. I looked it
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up in publications and it's true. The publications cite your sources. Haven't you been to how
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much money are Trump-leaning musicians losing.com? I haven't. I haven't seen that. I have to
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check into the number one website. Somehow I haven't found that. Yeah, it's crazy. But
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it's all just Ted Nugent complaining. So look, dude, I think Keith Urban is on there. So
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Ted Nugent went on a summer tour in 2018. On July 7th, Nugent played the Iowa Speedway
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in Newton, Iowa that seats 30,000 people, which is comparable to any stadium. It's very
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close to the seating of Bush Stadium in St. Louis. Along the way, he played a ton of rock
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clubs in larger cities and casinos in places like St. Louis and some theaters along the
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way. It's literally exactly what you'd expect to see from a guy who's never had a song chart
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higher than number 30. And that was Cat Scratch Fever, which came out 41 years ago. In fairness,
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he did reach number 22 on the rock chart with Little Miss Dangerous, but that was 31 years
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ago. Also, here are some of the lyrics from Little Miss Dangerous. Let's hear it. Quote,
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high heels. Oh, this is another one a year. It turns out that all of our favorite musicians
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are pedophiles. He is not my favorite musician. High heel sneakers, head to toe lace, such
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a dangerous body with a little girl's face. Yeah, what's wrong with that? She's my Little
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Miss Dangerous. I don't understand. Dangerous to me. What makes her dangerous to you, Dan?
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That little girl's face? Why would she have a little girl's face? I don't know. Anyway,
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this seems to be a little bit of a theme in Ted Nugent's music. His 1981 song Jailbait
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includes these lyrics. I forgot about that one. Well, I don't care if you're just 13,
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you look too good to be true. I just knew that you're probably clean. There's one little
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thing I got to do to you. Another lyric. What's that? It's all right, baby. It's quite all
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right. I asked your mama. Oh, to take her to school one morning. I guess. Very chaste.
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Nah, I don't know if that's the case. It's like in the 1700s. He would pick her up from
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her mom's house. They would get in the carriage. Her parents would sit in the front seat. They
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would court. And then she would be dropped off at school. I don't think that's the case
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because there's another lyric in the song, quote, Wait a minute, officer. Wait a minute,
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officer. Don't put those handcuffs on me. What about her? Hey, I'll share her with you.
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Seems like it's not about driving someone to school. I don't understand. Interestingly,
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the next song on his album that album that song comes off of is I'm a predator. Well,
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but it's it is important to note and this is it. Everybody can change his most recent
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song which charted I think 120 or so was called Whoopsie Doodle. My bad. No, no, I wish that
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was the case. Because in 2007, he wrote a deeply disturbing song called the Girl Scout
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cookies. I wish I was making this up. How many songs about sexually assaulting a minor
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before you're like, maybe you're just a pedophile? Quote, I like to eat my Girl Scout cookies.
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I can eat them all night long. I like them late at night when I'm in my bed. Three is
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a pattern, Dan. Never let them Girl Scouts never let them go to your head. Also another
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disturbing lyric, quote, that coconut just drives me wild. I get my cookies fresh from
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a child. How gross is that? He wrote that in 2007. I'm looking forward to Trump's inauguration
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song in 2020. Just being Ted Nugent singing. I want to fuck a kid. Oh, another lyric from
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that song in case you think he's actually talking about cookies, which he's not. Are
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you sure? Quote, I like them thin mints. Nobody likes a fat mint. Boo. I mean, especially
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because that's just not true. Also, this album that song comes off of includes a song called
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bridge over troubled daughters. Jesus, man. Yeah, I did not realize how insistent he was
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upon this theme in his music. Well, you know, in 1982, he also recorded a song called habitual
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offender, right? So it should make you realize habitual. I wasn't alive. I never really paid
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much attention to Ted Nugent. I saw that cat scratch fever was on like fucking guitar hero
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one time and I was like, I think I'm good. I got it. Yeah, I like strangle hold when
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I was younger. There's never a reason to listen to Ted Nugent's music. I thought it was really
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funny that he had a song called wango tango and a song called Wang dang sweet poontang.
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I thought that was fucking hilarious. Again, he is a very so gross. He's a man who does
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not go back to the well dad. Everyone is amazed by how he continually reinvents himself. Everybody
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knows that Ted Nugent is rock and rolls Madonna. That whole thing about like this girl being
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young and it's like, it's okay, I asked your mama. Like that's gross. That would be just
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super gross. But it's even more gross when you realize that Ted Nugent married a set
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owner. I can't remember if he married or adopted her. I think he adopted her. I don't like
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that. That that that no, no, no, that can never ever be a question you ask either. You
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could never ever say to me, I can't remember if he married or adopted as if those are two
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equally a possible he either either married or adopted an underage girl. So his parents
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couldn't complain about him having sex with her. Yeah, I can't remember what it is. But
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he is a fucking gross, monstrous dude. And I do think it's really funny that Alex and
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all of these ding dongs spent so much time and continue to do all the time trying to
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find this weird like Byzantine code to prove that all these Democrats they hate have these
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secret pedophile dungeons and stuff like that. And they love Ted Nugent. It's crazy. He's
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been writing songs for 40 years about how he likes children. It could maybe maybe that's
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the real difference between the left and the right. The left. We got to come up with codes
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if we're going to commit these crimes. The right. All they got to do is write song lyrics
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and everybody gets it. I don't know, man. Everybody's like, isn't that great? How he
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can use metaphor so vividly. It's pretty crazy. It is nuts to me. That's all I'll say. I just
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I don't understand how you get there. Look, I knew it was disgusting. Oh, yeah. I did
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not know that there were not just one, not just two, not just three. It's an entire career,
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but an entire career of I want to fuck a child. Not I want to. I do. Oh, yeah. That's basically
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what he's saying. He's bragging about assaulting minors. Yeah, yeah, yeah. In his songs and
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has been. And everyone's been like, man, it's Ted being Ted. And that's what Hillary wanted
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to stop. And that's why he was so angry. That must be it. That's the worst thing that Hillary
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ever wanted to do, which was stop Ted from fucking children. So sure. But also pivoting
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off this. Yeah. I didn't want to give the impression earlier in the show that Alex doesn't
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talk about Roger Stone at all, because I feel like I might have given that impression. And
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if I did, I apologize because Alex does get to it. He just doesn't do a great job of covering
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it when he does surprise Wall Street Journal. The Hill published fake news story about Roger
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Stone and info wars in the article. Stone says about statements he made on this show
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and others before he was even an employee here that he heard about this Chinese national
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who was wanted in China. And then he said something he got from one Trump official was
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inaccurate. They took that out of context and did a quote here where they have him saying
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that it was irresponsible.
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That turns into headlines. Please show him the Hill article, guys. Stop it. Alex Jones
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never settle on the top 100 million right now that Roger Stone admits he published fake
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news at info wars. He did. He did no such thing. Nope. We have his actual statement.
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He put out that the lawyers wanted him to put out to drop the 100 million dollar lawsuit
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that he would lose against him. Stone admits to publishing false statements on the force.
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And then they force feed it on Twitter once I'm removed to make it the top Twitter search.
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It's been up and down the top 10 searches today. And then once they do that, they put
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out a video as well saying that, oh, you see info wars is fake again. Well, yes, I understand
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that some people have gone too far with it and they're stupid and they say things like
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this proves that everything is fake. And that's just people trying. I think they're a little
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too eager for the fray and they they hurt the cause of working against propagandists
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because you kind of have to be pretty specific. And I saw a lot of people that I even like,
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you know, on Twitter posting things that were a little bit capricious about this. But like,
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yes, it is it is a great thing for Roger to have to admit I did do this. It was not true.
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It is nice whenever an ostensibly journalistic outlet is forced by lawsuit to say the bare
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minimum of this thing we published was incorrect. Yeah. Great. Good work, everybody. And the
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things that were being said in like that Hill article and stuff like that. It wasn't inaccurate.
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Right. It's just the way that people ran with it. It was portrayed in a. Yeah. Some sort
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of a Roger has admitted everything is a lie. Right. And I don't think that most people
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saw it that way. Most anybody who read the article would understand this is a situation
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where he got sued for saying a specific thing and he threw Sam Nunberg under the bus and
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fucking played it out, settled that shit. What a fucking nightmare. Anyway, the only
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other thing Alex can do besides create this false idea that everyone's lying about him
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and saying that Infowars is wrong about everything, when I think we have two years of evidence
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that they're pretty much wrong about just about everything, all he can do is create
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straw man arguments in order to help himself. But it shows how desperate they are that falsely
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claiming that I said that there's Martian bases with slave children. There's no video,
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no audio, no text, never said it, or that I'm currently they misrepresent what I did
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say in the past. They twisted, exaggerated and say Jones won't stop harassing families
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at their houses of Sandy Hook. You know, on the sixth anniversary, Jones people, their
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houses, they were saying this the last few days. You could just not talk about the lies
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by the mainstream media. So no, no, no, no, no. He could just not talk. He could just
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let it out because it's a perfect example about how the media lies about him. The media
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lies about how you lose that one. Let it go. Take a take one in the L column. That's fine.
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Can't do it. Too big of an L. So it is a big Mars colony thing is Robert David Steele was
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on his show and was saying that. And Alex did not push back on it at all. And, you know,
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yeah, you did. You did sort of sign off on it tacitly by it being out. But yeah, you
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didn't say it. Right. One of your guests that you constantly say is correct. One hundred
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percent and is an expert on every operative guy. So that's, that's a push. At the very
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least you went, uh huh. Uh huh. Uh huh. A bunch of times whenever he insinuated it.
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That's a push. But yeah, fine. You didn't say that. Whatever. I don't give a shit. The
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other thing is, you know, there are people from Sandy Hook who are still getting harassed
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because of the rhetoric that Alex put into the world. Yeah. And so these articles that
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come out are a reminder of the dangers of this rhetoric. Not saying that Alex is sending
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people to their houses, but trying to make clear that when you run with stuff like this,
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you are creating a life of victimization for victims of crimes. What you're doing is people
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who are the victims of terrorism, quite frankly, are now living their lives being terrorized.
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They had to evacuate a school or something like that. I can't remember exactly. Uh, on
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the anniversary because of, uh, people who buy into the narratives that Alex put out
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into the world. It's not saying that he's sending people to their homes. It's that these
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are the consequences. Please pay attention. Yep. That's it. He can't handle that. He takes
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everything personally and turns it into examples of the media lying about him when he's lying
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about what the media is saying. So who gives a shit? This is just how propaganda works.
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It's just, it's why you have to be specific. What, what fascinated me about the previous
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two clips is, um, he always knows the Google analytics. Do you know what, whenever he said
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the thing that I really like, he's always, he doesn't though. No, no, no, no. The thing
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that he said was it's been up and down in the top 10 Google searches. He's just making
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that up. Are you sure? Yeah. Cause to me, I feel like he says that no plenty of times
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where it does make sense. No, I'm guessing I'm just way off. Yeah, I think you're reaching.
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I think he probably has an employee who's lazy and is like tasked with monitoring Twitter
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or something like that. And because of who they follow, it's trending throughout the
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day. Oh look, it's in my side column of 10 things. It's the top 10. Okay. And then just
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tells Alex that and he's like, they're doing this, they're pushing it. Gotcha. That sort
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of thing. And whenever I retract my interest that I think he's just, he just makes up all
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sorts of stuff like that that he knows like this is going to be too hard for my audience
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to look up. It's just a fart in the wind. Who gives a shit? It's just that that part
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made so much sense to me because why wouldn't he always be looking at the Google analytics
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of a story? Because that's something that now that he has no access to that, he's got
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a piggyback on it. He's always got to find out who is trending on Google, who is trending
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on Twitter in order to, in order to make sure he's talking about that. You're imagining
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he is anybody who does work. Fair. Fair point. I will say that I did find a clip in 2009
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recently. I don't know if we, I don't think we put it on the show, but it was him talking
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about how he, you know, he always comes in and he's like, there are thousands of stories
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about me. There's thousands of... Every day. There's thousands of stories where the New
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World Order is being announced and stuff like that. And he discusses how he does it. He
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just gets on Google and then types in the words New World Order and then he gets thousands
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of results. Or whatever. That's what he's going off of. Right. That's true. He's not
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going off of any kind of real metrics or anything like that. He's just like, oh my God, look
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at all those results. I can't believe, look at all those pages. There's so many pages
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of results. It's stupid. He's, it's, it, who cares? Listen, fair. There's a bigger issue
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at hand here. What's the biggest issue? On this day, December 18th. MK Ultra has finally
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been revealed to be... It doesn't come up. Oh, it doesn't? But that was a big, that,
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what was it? That was one of the ringers for Top Story. Doesn't talk about canned vegetables
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either. Really? Nope. Spends a lot of the show talking shit on Ben Shapiro. Okay.
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Of course. And this to me is... Because it's essentially a gossip show now. This to me
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is I don't give a fuck. It's a let them fight. Yeah, right? Oh no. What are we going to do?
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Our next show about the fucking view? Who gives a shit? I don't, yeah, I don't care.
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If you want to attack Ben Shapiro as he's a liberal globalist... Go for it. I could
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have no less interest in it. But where it's coming from is Alex has been talking to Michael
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Savage off air and Savage has been telling him apparently, although Alex keeps saying
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Savage can't talk about this cause it's contract, but I'm going to talk about it. Sure. So apparently
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Michael Savage is losing a couple of hours of his show. It's scaling down to one hour
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and Ben Shapiro is getting put in that time slot. Ooh, some hot goss. Alex. I love me
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some hot goss, Dan. Alex's angle is that Savage is under attack and Ben Shapiro is this sneaky
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globalist who's coming in and this is a scaling back that is only going to be prelude to Michael
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Savage being taken off the air. Right. For his Trump leaning beliefs. I don't think that's
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the case. I think he probably has shit ratings and Ben Shapiro is a hot young commodity.
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Nah, nah. These stations probably see a possibility where like Ben Shapiro is constantly... Like
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his podcast is one of the top 10 podcasts consistently. He has a giant fan base. That's
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not good. No, it's not. But you know, if you're these radio stations... Oh man, that sucks.
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If you're a program director, you see this guy who's young, vibrant, has a huge fan base
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and he's saying dumb conservative shit. You have an old crotchety man who's cranky as
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hell and... No, he reaches the 18 to 34s, Dan. He did a fucking show on Fox news for
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like a week before he got fired. It's because of his Trump-believing beliefs, Dan. It definitely...
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Look, are you going to start telling me that these massive globalist organizations aren't
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making decisions based on politics at all, but are instead going for ratings and profits?
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I am saying that, yes. Oh, okay. Well then that makes sense. Ben Shapiro is your horse
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if you want. Yeah, of course. Because Michael Savage is in the twilight of his fucking career.
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He is an old, old man and he is also already a multi, multi-millionaire. He is a very rich
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dude. He's not going to be hurt. Even if his radio show is taken off, he could do a podcast.
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Fine. Retain your fan base that way. There's no reason. His fan base knows what a podcast
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is? That's a fair point. Anyway, it's not a globalist attack. I think it's probably
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a realization that you could boost your ratings probably considerably by having Ben Shapiro
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on. Yeah, I want both of them kept in fish tanks, like in the shape of water, but I would
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still... If I was a program director, I'd still be like, yeah, Ben, you're our guy.
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Get in there. You get this hour. Yeah. Come on. So anyway, Alex talks about this a lot
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and how it's an attack on Savage and stuff like that, and then he makes a pronouncement,
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which I'm very excited to see how it plays out. Okay. I'm also in the next week going
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to destroy, politically, Ben Shapiro. I have the dirt, all the proof, everything about
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who he really is. Whole nine yards. Get ready. His name is just Shaq. He added the hero.
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I'm going to stop right there. I know everyone from talk radio network. Everyone except our
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bell who's dead. Okay. Why did that need to go in there? I don't know. I'm sure there's
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other people from back then who are also dead. Who else doesn't he know who's dead? This
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is a number one definition of a story that I'm like, I'm fucking pumped to see how this
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plays out, but I also don't care how it lands at all. I know what's going to happen is that
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Alex is going to step on a rake and it's going to hit him in the face. That's what's going
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to happen. Yeah, yeah, yeah. He's going to silent Bob this. Yeah, for sure. He's going
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to make some sort of grand overture against Ben Shapiro and then it's going to be so disappointing,
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but it's not like it's new either. He's been complaining about Ben Shapiro since he was
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trying to get Kanye West on the show and Ben Shapiro tweeted, Hey, Kanye, don't do this.
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Oh, he was like Ben. Ben Shapiro is a awful stupid loser. Who is not a loser is very successful.
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Uh, I mean, he's a, he's a wonder keen of sorts. He was a really smart kid, skipped
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two grades and uh, in his primary education, don't care. Went to college, graduated from
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Harvard law school, still don't care. Ended up being a writer. He was like one of the
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youngest people ever to be published in, can't remember the, the thing. I don't know. He's
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a fast talking, smart sounding conservative dick. That's basically who he is. I gotcha.
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Okay. You don't talk about him all that much. He's like the Malcolm Gladwell of the right
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wing. I think that he talks faster. I don't know. Okay. Maybe we should cover him at some
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point. I'm open to the possibility of it, but he, there's no charm. There's no charm
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to it. I really don't feel, I don't feel any joy when I listen to him and it's not like
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Alex fills me with joy, but there's things I laugh at and enjoy. Just like that silly
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need to be like, and also I don't know Art Bell cause he's dead. Right. Like that's almost
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like an own. Yeah. Yeah. Like I don't know what that means. I don't know why you said
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it. I don't know what it's, I don't know how I'm supposed to take it. There's a, there's
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some whatever bon vivance in Alex that I don't feel in, uh, in Ben. And maybe that's just
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because he has the weight of the world on his shoulders. He's still a very young man
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and, you know, the coming from a circumstance where you graduate two years early, enter
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the world, there's so much pressure on you. You know, I could, I could see him and not
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being all that happy in life and it comes out in his fast paced. Shapiro or yeah. Yeah.
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He just, he just talks really fast to him. He says, he says things that sound really
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smart, but if you just slow it down a little bit, you're like, what are you fucking talking
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about? It's not fun. We may go over it in the future. I'm not saying we will, not saying
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we won't, but anyway, my point is, are you saying that maybe Alex would sound super fast
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if we just played him at 1.5 times? Maybe I'd like him to sound super smart. I shouldn't
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have said super fast. He wouldn't know. Ben uses bigger words. He went to Harvard law
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school. Who gives a fuck? They teach you big words there. That's probably true. My point
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is white words. Ben Shapiro's politics suck and a lot of his ideas are very dumb, but
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at the same time he has the good sense to be like, if you go on info wars, you're becoming
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part of that. Yeah. And that is not good. Yeah. So that is something that the president
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would do. At least he knows that on some level. And Alex got really mad when he tweeted to
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Kanye and told him, don't go on info war. Right, right, right, right. So anyway, he's
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been bitter about him probably even before that, but that was the last time it really
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flared up and he started doing a bunch of Ben Shapiro impressions on the show. Gotcha.
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It was real bad. So we got a right wing shit bag fist fight. Not even fist fight. Slap
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fight. And again, to really stress this, I don't care. I don't care. I don't care. Fight,
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bloody each other, live your life. I kind of do want Kanye to go on info wars though.
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I think it would be really weird. I think it would be fantastic. I actually was, I mean,
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I think it would be a terribly embarrassing moment for everyone involved. Everyone involved.
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It'd be spectacular. Kanye's fans. It'd be a disaster. And I'm one of his fans. It'd
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be horrific for me. It'd be great. I think as a scientific experiment, I'd love to see
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how it plays out. I know. But at the same time, I'm glad it never has happened. Yeah.
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So yet yet he's on a crusade. Alex is against Ben Shapiro. And in order to do that, in order
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to facilitate this crusade, he has to call in a guest who knows Ben Shapiro has known
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him for a long time, mom Shapiro, and is also a complete monster. So Vox day, I'm so against
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infighting, which he doesn't do. And I respect his work. Nobody for a decade, best-selling
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author also invented comic book producer that I'm just like, no, I don't want Vox day on.
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He doesn't do interviews. He does our show about how bad Shapiro is. I just, I don't
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want to be that person, but now I realize right now, just like Glenn Beck was in the
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position of sabotaging us off radio stations and behind the scenes, these are leftist folks
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and they're very dangerous. So Vox, thanks for coming on. So his argument is basically
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that Ben Shapiro is the new secret. He's a secret globalist, more or less. So he has
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Vox day in right to come and talk about it. We're not gonna listen to any of his clips
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because he doesn't deserve it. But we've, we've discussed Vox day a little bit in the
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past, notably because he calls white terrorist Anders Breivik, St Breivik and celebrates
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his acts of terrorism. That alone is enough to know where he's coming from. Vox day worships
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a serial killer. So now I want to talk about a couple other things. One, it's hilarious
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that he's here on Alex's show talking about Ben Shapiro is if he's coming from a place
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of caring about positions and policy on his blog, Vox day consistently talks shit about
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Shapiro. And interestingly, when he does, he puts his name in brackets, a stylistic
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flare that white nationalists use when they talk about Jews, but don't want to be too
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overt about it. Wait, really? Yeah. What? Yeah. You don't know that? No. Yeah. I don't
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traffic in white nationalist circles. Put like a two, uh, like the ones like parentheses,
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like double parentheses. Oh, okay. So fuck them all. That's a way to indicate I'm talking
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about this person cause they're Jewish. So Ben Shapiro's Jewish. Yeah. Gotcha. From what
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I can tell a lot of his complaints, Vox day's complaints, that is trace back to Shapiro
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being Jewish in a September 9th, 2016 post on his blog. Vox literally says, quote, conservatives
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and independence must now choose for what and with whom they will stand a diverse USA
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globalism and the left or a white America nationalism and the alt right. There is no
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other meaningful options. He's I'm, I'm literate. He literally published that. I'm grateful
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that he has restraint and he tries to get his point across through subtle means. Sure.
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Yeah. So in this interview he does with Alex, he says that he worked with Ben Shapiro at
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world net daily, but he fails to mention that he probably got that job because of his dad,
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uh, Robert Beale, who was the director of world news, uh, world net daily for a time.
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I say for a time because in 2008 Robert Beale was sentenced to 11 years and two months in
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prison for five counts of tax evasion. It seems that he had a little bit of a feeling
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that he didn't need to pay taxes and then he started reading books by Erwin Schiff,
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father of Alex Jones's frequent guest, Peter Schiff. God damn it. He took Erwin's horrible
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advice and it turns out that's a felony and his trial. It came out that Robert Beale was
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a member of a sovereign citizen group called the common law court, which is located in
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Ramsey County, Minnesota. Equally unsurprising to that fact. Before this, he was a higher
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up at world net daily and pretty clearly hooked up his aspiring science fiction author son
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with a gig, which is now all led to Vox day being an out and out white nationalist demagogue.
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So congratulations dad. Nepotism turned out very poorly in this instance. It always does.
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Hey, thank, thank. Let's, let's just give it up for nepotism. Also along the way, it's
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really interesting that Vox day had a bit of a stretch where he was trying to get into
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that pickup artist scam money. One of the things that set him apart, all these dudes,
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dude, all these dudes were involved in gamer gate and pickup artists. Mark Dice wrote a
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book about pickup artistry. Mike Cernovich was a pickup artist guru. Dave Seaman was
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involved in all this stuff. Cernovich was in gamer gate. All of it is the funnel that
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leads to all this. Fucking white dudes feeling entitled to everything because that's what's
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behind all this. Anyway, what set Vox day apart from many of the dudes who advised guys
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to like do things like subtly disrespect women so they think you're aloof. Uh, it was that
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Vox day was an extreme monster from a September 20, kill them close and then have sex with
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their corpses. Very close. Can't say no after they're dead. Very close. Oh God, that's,
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again, this is, this is like the, it could be marriage, it could be adoption. I don't
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like anything like this. From a September 28th, 2011 post on his blog, quote, I don't
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believe I could recommend this as a strategy for most men, but it's surely educational
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to learn that raping and killing a woman is demonstrably more attractive to women than
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behaving like a gentleman and women before all this inevitable snowflake and commences.
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Please note that there is absolutely nothing to argue about here. It's an established empirical
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fact. I, he says that it's an empirical fact, but the only citation he provides to back
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this up at all is a link to another pickup artist blog called alpha game plan, which
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is just a writeup of a post in the daily mail about how a Japanese murderer had a fan group.
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This doesn't make, Oh yeah, that guy, this doesn't make anything an established empirical
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fact. This is just an anecdotal story with a ton of variables involved that he doesn't
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take into account. The fact that murderers have fan groups doesn't prove anything to
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the point of that being a murderer is more attractive to women than being polite and
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decent. It's bullshit. It's total nonsense. Ted Bundy has a fan base, but it's not more
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attractive than right. And also this doesn't take into account who are these people who
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gravitate towards a fan groups of murderers. Hey, no, I'm saying I know, I know it's insane.
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That's insane. Right? I think what his variable is the largest population of women, right?
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Those are the ones who are attracted to serial killers, rapists and murderers. Yeah. The
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larger popular, a plurality of them, at least a plurality. Okay. Especially more than like
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holding the door open. That proves you're a fucking beta or a gamma. You should slam
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her head in that door until she's dead. Also, it's really funny. He has this like, you know,
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all of them talk about like alphas and stuff like alphas and betas. He expands it to like
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gammas and stuff like that because he knows a couple more Greek letters. But the really
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funny thing about all that is that studies have been done in like wolf communities. That's
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what they're all hearkening to is this idea of like wolves. That hierarchical structure
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doesn't exist in nature. It only exists in like wolves that are kept in like enclosures.
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It only exists in like captive populations. So their whole thing isn't a natural thing.
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Their whole argument that this is how people work. It's how it would work in prison, probably,
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but it's not how it works in the broader world. Because it doesn't make sense as an evolutionary
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strategy to be attracted to a rapist and murderer. Well, that part, again, is just based on an
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anecdotal story, right? It has nothing to do with empirical fact. Of course, that what's
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interesting about that is like for a long time Vox Day has been masquerading as someone
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who is in any way serious. He constantly talks about like how he's in Mensa and he respects
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science and reason. But all he's ever done is use decent grammar to repackage overtly
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white supremacist and dangerously misogynistic narratives. All in all, my point is this dude's
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a piece of shit and he's exactly who you would expect Alex to still be hanging out with at
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this point in his fucking career. It's crazy. Fox Day is the worst. Like I've taken a couple
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of these things. If you go read his blog, you'll find fucking atrociously worded statements
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that are like, oh, I can't believe someone would believe that. It's a mess.
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That's not okay.
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He has, I can't remember exactly what the quote-
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That's not okay. Can we all agree that's not okay?
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He has some weird argument that he was trying to make about the idea of like white supremacy
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isn't true. It's not that-
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Whites are not better than any other race, but-
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Stop right there. I am out.
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White people are the only people who are willing to stand up for the preservation of Western
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society and go, no matter what race you are, you should be in favor of white nationalism.
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Okay. Let's be at a party. Let's be at a party. You be Fox Day and I'll be me.
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No, no. I don't want to be Fox Day.
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Hey, how you doing?
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You should already be gone.
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Exactly.
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Yeah. Yeah. No reason to role play that. So he talks to Fox Day forever on that episode
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and that brings us to the end of the 18th and we jump in on the 19th and I was thinking
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maybe we're going to get some Flynn in here. No real Flynn to speak of before. Alex addressed
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the Roger Stone thing, I guess, but it was just a dismissal. It wasn't-
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We didn't do anything wrong. They said everything. We're doing everything right and bye.
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Right. So we get into the 19th and I expected maybe something, but it turns out it was worse
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than I possibly could have imagined.
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Fuck Infowars.com and on Salazar, 11 year old performs in drag on stage at New York
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street gay club at night, scantily clad, 10 year old child, 10 year old boy shaking his
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butt and scantily clad and getting money. But it gets even worse. There's a video he
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posted about how he's part of the L G B T P Q.
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Nice.
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They'd officially start calling it the L G B T P, but they've added L G B T P queer. So
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they added pedophile and queer to the end of it.
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Point of order. The Q was already there. I think there were two Q's for queer and questioning.
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Alex would know that if he cared at all, but he doesn't.
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He actually, this kid did write a great song called Girl Scout Cookies.
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No, no. That was Alex's friend, Ted Nugent.
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Oh no. Okay.
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And you've got these people at public events saying city councils, we are coming to groom
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your children. Your children are ours. Give them to us. It's disgusting. You won't hand
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them over. And this young boy with his mother, we're going to play the video coming up, says
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talks about snorting ketamine, which is a drug that people take to go into trance-like
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states where they have orgies.
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Cool. We'll get into that video here in a little bit, but right off the bat,
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Here's my biggest quibble with this kid. He's too fucking cool, Dan.
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Yeah. So right off the bat, I need to make one thing abundantly clear about my position.
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Regardless of what angle you have on this story, no matter where you fall on it, even
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if you're on Alex's side of this, the way InfoWars covered this is indefensible. Here's
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what I mean by this. In their post on their website, the sub headline about this story
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is quote, adult patrons throw money at male child dressed like a slut. That headline is
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wow. That's an offensive. What? It's flagrantly inappropriate. That is unbelievably like dressed
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like a slut. You're the one sexualizing. Yeah. What are you doing? It's crazy. That's fucked
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up. So even though the kid in question is an aspiring artist and has a stage name and
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a website, I find it particularly distasteful that Alex posted a picture of him and their
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real name on the website in his article. If their angle is that this is a child victim,
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they shouldn't want to bring possible attention or attacks their way. The only way I can make
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any sense of this is that they're trying to make this 11-year-old a target, which is exactly
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what they want to do. Because this drag artist known as Desmond is Amazing is a fairly popular
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LGBT rights activist with over 108,000 followers on Instagram, even though they're only 11
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years old. Yeah. Alex does want to make them a target. Yeah. He doesn't give a shit about
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the idea. He's going to try and play up the idea that like, I care about the victimization
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here. Sure. But if he did, he would have dealt with this differently. He wouldn't have allowed
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a headline dressed like a slut. He wouldn't have pasted a picture of this Desmond on his
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website. He wouldn't have done that. This is an attack on this kid, not on the idea
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that globalists are sexual. How old is this kid again? Eleven. Okay, so an adult man is
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now stalking an 11-year-old. It's like Owen Benjamin writing songs about David Hogg's
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pubes and stuff like that. Yeah. Fuck you. Desmond wasn't dressed like a slut. He was
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doing a routine based on a Gwen Stefani song, so he used a Gwen Stefani costume. Essentially,
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you know, like those baggy pants with the chain wallet and the t-shirt. The white undershirt.
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Oh, so this is like- It's not dressed like a slut at all. This is like a theater kid
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at your high school talent show doing a fucking Gwen Stefani song. More or less. In order
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to prop up his argument attacking a child whose life he disagrees with, in his article-
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Alex didn't write the article, but he's responsible for everything that's posted on
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Bigfoot Wars. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Adan Salazar's article. They almost exclusively use just
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quotes from random anonymous comments on a subreddit called r-trashy. This is a pathetic
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level of journalistic laziness. All these people saying, oh, this is horrible on a subreddit
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called trashy. This is nonsense. That doesn't mean anything. These are anonymous bullshit
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comments. All the other arguments in this article against it that are cited in the article,
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from places like Louder with Crowder, revolve around the idea that Desmond's performance
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was sexual when there's no indication that's the case at all. It's Alex and Louder with
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Crowder that's projecting sex onto what is ostensibly a youth doing a lip sync performance
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or karaoke in the case of the one I watched was definitely a lip sync. But I extend the
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possibility that Desmond may sing at times. But look, I watched the entire thing because
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I was like, all right, I'm trying to understand this. It's not sexual at all.
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Here's what I'm hearing out of all of this stuff is that Alex's real issue and so many
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of these guys real issues has nothing to do with a sexualizing kids and more with kids
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like like this guy confusing them, like like for them, for them, they're looking at like
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the reason that he's writing that article with a subline dressed like a slut is his
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confusion. His confusion is like, hey, why are you making me want to fuck you? I don't
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understand what's going on. Maybe. And that's that's fucked up. Maybe this whole thing is
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fucked up. Maybe that might be too much to put on Alex or whatever. No, I'm putting it
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all on him. It's I mean, it's possible. Who knows? I think more the confusion comes from
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him seeing this as an attack on masculinity and stuff like that. I think he has a hundred
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different picadillos wrapped up here. It's fucked up. So anyway, get alone. Alex gets
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really ambitious with this narrative. I'm going to hear the story here up front, though.
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Did we bring your kid alone? We've been talking about. Fuck you. And illustrates that we all
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have a choice to make which side run, because there's no doubt about the forces that we're
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facing. There's no doubt about their end game. There's no doubt about who they are or their
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ideology. And we thought there is doubt about the end game. The very same evil has reared
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its head in every culture, in every area of recorded civilization for over six thousand
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years. We're going to be plunging into that here in just a moment. He's a fucking idiot.
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He's talking about like he's going to try and bring in like the idea of like South American
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Meso-American child sacrifice and stuff like that. He has no argument here. This is a bunch
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of nonsense. Hold on. Hold on. Just so fucking furious. Headlines on Infowars.com. It links
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through to mainstream news, praising it. Shock. Eleven year old performs in drag on stage
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at NYC Gay Club. So this is the other piece of it. Desmond was performing at this gay
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club called Three Dollar Bill. You know, queer is a three dollar bill. Right. Well, we can't
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have children going to gay clubs because that'll turn them gay. That's how that works. Right.
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Science. No, totally. Totally. There are pieces of this that are a bunch of nonsense to attack
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per se. One of the things is that it's not just a bar. It's also a performance space.
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If you go to their website, they have bands there regularly. They recently had a comedy festival,
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Queer New York Comedy Festival there. Nice. And then everyone's making a big deal out of the
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idea that this is a kid in a bar. Fine. But also Desmond was there as a performer. Back when I
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used to do stand up, there was this 12 year old kid that would come do stand up sometimes,
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who was allowed into bars because he was there to perform and he was there accompanied by his
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father. He'd do jokes about how his mom was a slut and stuff. You wouldn't expect a child to say it
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was raunchy. It was kind of kind of lame. You know, I thought it was very stupid. But if you
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really look at it, his act was more intrinsically sexual than Desmond's. Yeah. So Alex doesn't give
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a shit about that. Doesn't care about the idea that it opened mics for these kids. I don't know
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any comedian who doesn't know of at least like we've we've all been to at least 10 shows where
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it's like, really, they're going to do a 12 year old and then the 12 year old does well. And you're
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like, motherfuckers, I were. Fuck you. Dad wrote these. Yeah, exactly. No, there's totally a dad
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writing jokes behind that. And also there's a jealousy of all the other performers like,
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fuck you. You didn't even earn those. Yeah. Yeah. The bigger point is, oh, it's easier because
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you're 12. The bigger point is Alex is trying to do two things here. He's trying to make it like
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he was in a bar and that's wrong. That's not really wrong. If they're serving in booze,
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then yeah, that's yeah. Yeah. That's because we have laws. But that's that's crazy. And then the
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other thing is Alex is unwilling to separate the idea of a gay bar being a sexual place
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akin to a strip club. And he makes this point repeatedly. And it's really fucking stupid.
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There's been a girl in any topless bar. The parents would be arrested instantly.
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Because we did our little boys. No. Give them Ritalin and give them all the vaccines.
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There are eight times we're likely to have autism. This is the new way we destroy our young men.
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See, I think it's more about the masculinity than it is about anything else. I think that
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is where his ire is getting up the most, because it feeds into so many of the narratives that he's
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talked about forever is this idea of an attack on masculinity. It's what most of his product line is
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based around, that fear of losing your vitality and shit like that. So I I mean, it's all
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dishonest. And yes, absolutely. If you brought an 11 year old girl to a strip club and they were
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doing a strip tease or something like that, if they were stripping, that would be flagrantly
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illegal. If they were not stripping. Yeah. If they were just up there to be ogled at
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by creepy dudes. Yeah. That's creepy. Yes. And would be fucked up against the law.
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Yeah. There we have it's a problem that we've already we've already got laws for.
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Yeah. Yeah. So but he's trying to make a false equivalence there with this idea of like going
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to this gay bar is the same as going to a strip club because he believes that like gay bars are
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for fucking sickly gay bars are for fucking just sex. No, it's not that this marginalized group of
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people has gone to regular bars for so fucking long and have been discriminated against,
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have been assaulted, have been fucked with and with unceasing regularity so much so that they
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created their own space. And finally, they have their own fucking space. And even though they have
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their own fucking space where they feel safe and comfortable, you have to somehow try and
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marginalize them still further by making it a pure sex thing. It can't just be like that's what
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it is to him. Yeah, of course. Yeah. Like if you like what don't you like some like for his
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bullshit, like he probably goes to some fuck barbershop where it's like, it's all these
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dudes who do all this shit. Fuck you. You're all fucking each other. I don't give a shit.
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Or he goes. Fuck off. Yeah. You go shooting. Do you know what shooting ranges are for?
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Dudes fucking themselves. Alex Jones fucks a bunch of dudes with guns. Done. Solved it. I fixed it.
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Right. I mean, you're using a reducto ad absurdium argument, taking another circumstance and using
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his same line of thinking to point out the absurdity of it. And I agree. It's nonsense.
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But his comes from a deep place of bigotry. And he feels it's justified because this kid,
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Desmond has revealed in a video that's been posted that pedophiles are part of the LGBT.
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He's on video with his reported mother on YouTube, his reported mother talking about L G B T P Q.
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You're really doing a great job. As I predicted, they would add a P to the end of LGBT.
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Even if they did, he couldn't do it by himself. They've added a Q. So it's on.
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And they're coming for your kids in the schools, and it's all part of a larger plan.
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So we'll listen to the actual video here in a little bit. Suffice to say, Alex is fucking
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wrong about everything, but in a way that is much more fucked up than even you can imagine at this
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point. But Alex thinks he's vindicated. Alex thinks that this kid is announcing in this video
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that he has that P is a part of it, man. I've been saying that all along. I've been demonizing
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the LGBT community by saying that P is at the end of it. And now I'm right. Isn't that amazing?
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He's not. It's not amazing. He's wrong. And he's also fucking desperate on the 19th.
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We are fabulously successful. We are under total attack and it is a symbol
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of our victory against the enemy. We're so successful. I need you to give me as much
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of your money as you can right now. Please, please. We're so successful. I need it. And
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I'm extremely honored. I need your money. And I don't want to be any other place, but with you,
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I am this crew out there. Give me your money. And I mean that gonna need your money.
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So something I never do here in the first main segment is plug.
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Oh, I want to stay on this horse as long as I can.
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Do you mean you want to type situation long after it's dead?
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And if we have more ammo, we can stay here for a long time and hopefully.
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So he wants to be on that horse and he wants to stay around. I mean,
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that's a desperate, pathetic man. That's desperate. I mean, he, he,
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he plugs in the first segment a lot of the time. I was going to say that that's bullshit,
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but him drawing focus to it indicates that like, I need you to think this means something.
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Yeah. Also he's like Christmas sales are still going. And if you get before midnight tonight,
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if you just order a ton of stuff, it'll come for Christmas. Your house needs a Christmas gift.
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Everybody gets gifts for the family. We're on our 339th day of our Christmas
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day. You need Vox days book as a stocking stuffer for your children.
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Don't get that book for your children.
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So Alex says, if you give me more money and all that, then we can stay on this horse.
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But he also starts to get really introspective about the idea of like,
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you know what, if my time is up, then, you know, if we get destroyed, we get destroyed.
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He says something very interesting. Again, if we're destroyed again,
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which I hope doesn't happen. That's that's that's okay. We're looking at the job.
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We had to be the first hit the barbed wire. We're bleeding modern wave.
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Others came before us and paid a lot more like Larry McDonald
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and John Birch and so many others. So my job is easy at this point.
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So the two people that he listed as martyrs who he's comparing himself to are John Birch,
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who's the soldier who Robert Welsh, the founder of the John Birch Society named his group after.
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And the guy who knew John Birch said he would not be cool with that.
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So he is the one who's being used as a propaganda tool as the supposed first
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victim of the Cold War and stuff like that in order to further
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and be like a symbolic martyr for these anti-communist propagandists.
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Sure, sure, sure, sure.
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Now, Larry McDonald, you probably don't know who that dude is.
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No idea.
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You remember how back when the president of the John Birch Society was on Alex's show
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and I told you about how the candy man Robert Welsh was.
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Oh, this dude's a white nationalist terrorist, isn't he?
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Well, you know, I told you how the candy man Robert Welsh was the first president of the
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John Birch Society. Then he was replaced, but then he had to come back as president
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because the new president was in a plane that was shot down by the Soviets.
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That was McDonald.
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That was Larry McDonald.
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Gotcha.
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And before you start thinking him being shot down by the Soviets as some sort of proof
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of a communist plot, he was on a plane that deviated from their flight path and went into
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prohibited Soviet airspace. I'm definitely not defending shooting the plane down.
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I think it's the wrong way to handle things, but it wouldn't have happened.
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It would not have been shot down if the pilot hadn't taken them into prohibited Soviet airspace.
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Now, some fun facts about Larry McDonald.
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He was a member of the House representing Georgia from 1975 to 1983.
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All right. Well, then already discounted.
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The American Journal of Political Sciences ranked him as the second most
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conservative member of both houses of Congress between 1937 and 2002.
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Who's number one, you ask?
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You guessed it.
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No!
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Ron Paul.
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God damn it.
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While he was in office, he was a member of the McCarthy Foundation,
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an expression of his admiration for Joseph McCarthy.
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He co-sponsored a bill advocating that homosexuals never be given equal rights,
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which he phrased as, quote, special consideration.
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He fought against the establishment of the Martin Luther King Day,
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and he wanted to bring back the gold standard.
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As could be explained, or expected,
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seeing as he was a member of the Austrian School and the Mies Institute.
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He introduced bills to get the US out of the UN and to abolish the Federal Elections Commission.
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If you're really, really stupid, you shouldn't be allowed to call yourself an institute.
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Like, there should be a rule against that.
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If you're so stupidly fucking wrong, you just have to call yourself, like, the folks.
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The Mies folks.
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Let's work on that for later.
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All right.
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That's low on our list of priorities.
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I get it!
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I support the initiative.
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I get it!
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But, uh...
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Not saying it's gonna be the next bill that I introduce.
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So Alex is imagining himself in his potential destruction as being similar to the propaganda
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martyr of the John Birch Society and the second president of the John Birch Society,
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who was in a plane that got shot down.
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Yeah.
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Alex loves the John Birch Society, though he doesn't talk about it all that much.
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Clearly.
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The fact that I haven't heard him bring up Larry McDonald, but it came out real fucking
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smooth when he was looking for martyrs.
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Yep, he loves the John Birch Society.
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John Birch and Larry McDonald are the two names that come out of his mouth.
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It's very clear.
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Very clear.
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Yeah.
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So in a way, Alex is really stupid.
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I should also...
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He's basically an institute at this point, how stupid he is.
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I hate you.
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He goes down...
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That was very funny.
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He goes down this line, earlier he introduced the idea that whenever they want the kids,
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that's the sign that the civilizations are about to be destroyed.
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And he starts this treatise, I would say, just on the dumbest foot ever.
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What could possibly be more indicative of wanting to sacrifice a child than fucking
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going after a child and making sure that all of your ceaseless mountain of fucking trolls
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slam down upon them.
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There's an interesting irony there that we'll get into in a little bit.
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But first, Alex has got to get his treatise going.
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So let's let him, and then we will mock accordingly.
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If you've ever studied basic archaeology, basic anthropology, you have.
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You will notice that civilizations usually last about 200 to 300 years.
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That is nonsense.
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What?
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The Ottoman Empire spanned 623 years from 1299 to 1922.
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The Khmer Empire in Cambodia lasted 630 years from 802 to 1432.
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The Ethiopian Empire lasted from 1270 to 1935 and only fell because it was invaded by Italian
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fascists.
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The Kush Empire in modern Sudan went from 1070 BCE to 350 AD.
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Alex isn't saying anything here. Civilizations do not tend to last 200 to 300 years.
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This is complete bullshit.
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He's just using this nonsensical statistic he's pulling out of thin air in order to present
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the idea that we're in the end times.
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Because we are between 200 and 300 years.
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We haven't even defined civilization.
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No, that's a good point.
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We haven't even defined fucking civilizations.
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Who gives a fuck if empires last 400?
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Look, those are continuous civilizations.
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Yeah, no, absolutely.
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That's, I'm not, I'm not like refuting that argument.
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I'm, I'm just saying that even, even then, you know, like, oh, let's go with the Chinese
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civilization.
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Are we going to call the Qing dynasty a completely different civilization?
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That's why I didn't touch on that because it seems too much like a weird...
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It's a civilization.
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But even so, some of those dynasties lasted longer than 300 years.
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Hell yeah.
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And even then, but the people were still the fucking people, you know?
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The problem is that he hasn't studied basic archaeology or anthropology.
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I know!
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So that's the problem.
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That's so frustrating.
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He knows nothing.
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If you've ever studied basic archaeology or anthropology, please call me because I haven't
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and I'm going to say dumb shit.
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And I'm not going to use any real specifics.
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So then he launches back in and I've listened to this.
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I think I know what he's saying, but it's so weird that I, I, I find it hard to believe
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that he's making this argument.
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You will notice that civilizations usually last about 200 to 300 years and they'll rise
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out of agrarian systems and they'll create a priest class, a manufacturing class, and
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these either get conquered, absorbed, or suddenly temples are built, usually pyramids.
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Wait, what was the priest class doing before the temple?
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The priest class begins demanding to have sex with little boys and girls in public.
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They have always done that, like from the jungle.
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It happened all over the world.
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It happened in ancient Europe.
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It happened in ancient Latin America, which was Mesoamerica.
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It happened in ancient China.
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That's why China funds movements and systems in America for the sexualization of children
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and things like that.
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They, they outlaw it in China.
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They kill you if you do it.
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And so the religion of the left in this country and the people that have taken over the Vatican
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and all of it is pedophilia.
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And it is the energetic vampirism of children.
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Little balls of energy, sucking energy out of them.
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It's a fact.
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They'll tell you that's what they're doing.
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No, no, no, I don't think they will.
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No, I don't.
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Ted Nugent will tell you that's what he's doing.
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So it's so strange to me that the argument that I, and tell me if I'm wrong.
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I really want to understand the argument because I didn't catch.
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Tell me if I'm wrong.
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But what I take from this and some surrounding context, but there isn't a whole lot.
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Right.
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I believe that the argument that he's making is that the Chinese, the Chicoms as it were,
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are promoting pedophilic movements like the LGBT movement and what have you here in America.
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Of course.
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Because they know, they know that throughout history, because they've studied basic
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archaeology and anthropology.
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Absolutely.
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They know.
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Hell, they invented most of it.
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They know that we're two to 300 years in and it's about time for the priest class to start
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demanding to fuck children in public.
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Yeah.
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To precipitate the destruction of America.
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Right.
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I really think that's the argument that he's making.
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I'm pretty sure that's the argument that he's making.
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And that's why I'm so confused by it.
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That's crazy.
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Because he just said that because the Chinese did it now, some 2,000 years later in his
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own argument, they're like, hold on, I know what we'll do.
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We'll fund a priest class.
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Right.
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Because I remember when that happened to us.
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I guess.
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So then that'll happen to them.
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I guess.
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And then we'll swoop in.
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It's absurd.
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So that's why we outlawed it.
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So our civilization wouldn't collapse and we kill priest class people.
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Because as everybody knows, that's the only way that a civilization will fall.
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This is crazy.
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And it's an articulation of something that I think Alex has probably thought for a long
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time.
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I think we've seen clues that he kind of thinks that, but I never would have guessed that
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that's what he was getting at.
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That's a bananas.
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I think that he thinks that.
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He thinks that the Chinese are paying people to fuck kids in public.
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Well, no, they're paying, I guess, LGBT folks to advocate for their own rights, which Alex
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sees as a normalization of pedophilia.
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Right.
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Because they think that that will lead to the destruction of America.
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I wish the Chinese were funding LGBTQ movements to fight for their own rights.
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That'd be fantastic.
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It's I would like it if they help there.
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There are I don't know.
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There are factual problems with this.
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Oh, I name one.
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They're inferential problems.
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I can't see any.
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It's a mess.
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I think that's the kind of thing where I would tell Alex, just go home.
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If he's at the bar and he's spouting that, like, yeah, get out of here.
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You got to go, man.
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What are you, Vox Day?
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Get the fuck out of here.
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You head too big of a knife.
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You fucking idiot.
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So at this point, he said he's like, this is his intellectualizing of things.
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Yes, that is his intellectualizing.
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Well, he brings in basic archaeology.
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Sure, sure.
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He said the words ergo he knows.
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Right, right, right.
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Because he went to college.
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So he's now appealed to your intelligent mind.
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By saying that the Chinese are funding pedophilia.
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So now he gets back to attacking a child.
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And the way he does this is next level bad.
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But it's also fun because I know from everything I've seen about this kid,
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Desmond is awesome, that he doesn't give a shit.
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He wouldn't care at all about Alex's petty bullshit.
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So I take some solace in that.
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But at the same time, this is really bad.
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Eh, this first clip isn't really bad.
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But it gets worse.
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What you're about to see me cover is the story of your claw is a crime.
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Taking a minor to a bar where there is adult entertainment that takes place
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is strictly forbidden and zoned in New York is illegal.
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How many of you are going to pick up food when you're a kid for your parents?
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And you were like 10 or 11.
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They go, hey, run in and get the food.
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And the place has a bar.
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And they go, sorry, you pick up food at the bar.
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You got to send your parents in.
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You can't approach the bar.
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This is a personal story.
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But as long as you're LGBT.
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This is a personal story.
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You're talking about you.
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Yeah, probably he had that happen.
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So look, according to New York law,
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there's no law that says that people under 21 can't enter a bar.
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The bar self imposes that rule in order to not have
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any appearance of serving booze to minors, which is against the law.
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That's why bars can have 18 plus nights for concerts and shit like that.
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There is no law that says you can't come in.
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Generally speaking, it goes state by state.
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But if the bar serves food, they can have any age people in there.
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They just can't serve people under 21 alcohol.
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Yeah.
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Alex is using a very specific language here to be a shithead.
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He says that it's at places where there's adult entertainment going on.
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Which he specifically says because you think adult entertainment means adult entertainment.
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Yep.
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We've already kind of gone over this point here.
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He's trying to pretend that this is a strip club or something like that.
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Yeah.
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It's not.
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It's just a gay space that he deems intrinsically sexual.
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Yep.
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And that is fucked up.
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It is fucked up.
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He just sexualizes everything he deems deviant.
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And it's a really, it's a really lame.
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Motherfucking Applebee's has a bar.
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Go fuck yourself.
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It's a really lame way to do this.
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Anyway, in this next clip, he insults Desmond personally.
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Just type that name in.
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It's all over the news.
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Good morning America.
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How awesome it is.
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It's an emaciated child.
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Looks completely whacked out of their brain.
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Looks like a crackhead.
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We're gonna play some of the video.
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Viewers will see this in a moment.
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Alex, you are acting like a disgraceful pile of shit here.
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The idea that you would say this is an emaciated kid who looks like a crackhead.
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Why the fuck would you do that?
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What angle does that serve for what he wants to achieve,
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if what he wants to achieve is anything other than attacking this kid?
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That's the only thing that makes sense out of this rhetoric.
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Yep.
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Now, I told you we'd get to the pee thing.
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And this is a miked down clip.
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This is where Alex actually plays the video that he's been talking about.
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Yeah.
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Where he has said that Desmond comes out and says that it's the LGBT and they added a Q.
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Yeah.
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They added the P and the Q.
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Yeah, fuck off with that Alex.
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Yeah, great.
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Good work.
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Late to the party as usual, Alex.
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Congratulations.
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Now there's an interesting dynamic going on in this video and you'll pick up on it immediately.
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I guarantee that.
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Everyone listening will pick up on it immediately.
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Alex is pretending that the dynamic that is at play
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is not at play in order for him to demonize people.
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Anyway, what Alex does here is completely disgraceful.
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And I'm certain because our listeners are not shitheads and you aren't a shithead,
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you'll see through this immediately.
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Here is this poor, in my view, abused boy talking about ketamine,
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or the woman's talking about ketamine.
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Not sure what's the mother or not.
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Here it is.
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Anyone can do drag.
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Everyone can do drag.
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Everyone.
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Your mom can do drag.
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One, four, eight, eight.
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Oh, sorry.
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It was just an off track.
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Okay.
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It was only $400 off.
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There's no genders.
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You can be male, female, any or none.
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Only US people can have a bunch of made up genders.
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That's not true at all.
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No, no, no.
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Oh my God.
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Hitler was right.
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What?
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See?
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Bella Noce.
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Putting the P in LGBT P plus.
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You should eat some food, little nibba.
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But I'm getting hate comments.
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Does this mean I'm famous now?
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Is this what he wants?
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Lots of respect for you guys.
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Thank you.
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Press G to gas.
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G G G G.
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One, two, three, four G's.
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What has this world come to?
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It's come to a world where drag kids actually exist.
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And people do ketamine on a couch.
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How old is your BF?
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Hello.
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Hitler was right.
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Helicopter rides.
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Yay.
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So the woman and some of the live stream just said it was the mom that I on TV looks like
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the mom looks different.
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So it may not be the mom.
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We don't even know.
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It's just, it's just, you know, it's not thrown into this, this poor little dear child, your
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child, and it's all in your face and it's so insane and it's so abusive.
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This, this is the mom here.
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So we just can't tell.
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There's so much pain.
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I'm here, so we just can't tell there's so much makeup on the other woman and the mother's
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so proud of how great this is and how the child just came up with this, but that's not
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what's happening.
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This is all being indoctrinated in the schools.
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Cause Alex fucking knows better.
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Like these interviews with them, they've lived their lives, you know, like the mom and Desmond
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both have lived their lives.
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And in interviews, they, it doesn't feel the same way.
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A lot of those creepy stage moms do.
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Maybe there's a tiny element of it.
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Do that, I admit that there's a possibility that there's some of that there, but in the
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interviews I saw with them, it was very clear that Desmond was expressing.
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I am so grateful that I have a mother who accepts this thing.
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That's been a part of me as long as I've remembered it.
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And the mom has been like, that's what that kid wants to do.
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I love my kid.
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They would know their lives, but Alex knows better.
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Hold on, let's finish this clip and then we'll get back to what was going on in that video.
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And the question is how much more of this as a society and a culture, this is this recruiting
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and indoctrination is all going on in the schools.
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And then talking about ketamine and the child hears about it, ketamine, you generally snort
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and the child then is involved in drug culture, signaling about a horrible drug involved in
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group sesh and talking about LGBTP2 only in fallen America and the West, ladies and gentlemen.
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So I would like you to say what was going on in there, that video.
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I watched it.
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You only heard the audio, but I'm certain you know what was going on.
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I think we, a lot of the times we clown, but I really fucking hate Alex.
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I think it's important to really make that.
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This is, this is one of the more disgraceful things I've ever seen.
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It's very clear that what's going on here is they're doing a live stream and they're
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responding to things to the people that Alex himself is inspiring to.
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They're reading his own fucking words back at him.
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Ironically, that's pathetic.
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Alex, you're fucking pathetic.
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The idea that someone who is watching the live stream wrote in putting the P and LGBTP
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is kind of indicative of like, I don't know if other right-wing people are using that
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acronym, but I know that Alex has for a bit.
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There's a reasonable assumption to be made that the person was doing that because they
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were inspired by Alex.
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So what it is is secondhand Alex abuse being funneled towards this 11 year old, the 11
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year old reading it and saying, I don't know what that means.
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Or the other person said, I don't know what that means.
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And then Alex then using, they said, LGBTP, I've been right all along.
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It's a fucking nonsense.
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And then you heard in there very clearly, 1488, someone was saying that Hitler was right
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comes up a number of times.
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And then Desmond says, helicopter rides.
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Yay.
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That response came because Desmond thought it was in reference to taking a ride in a
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helicopter, not a reference to how Pinochet used to take his political rivals and helicopters
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and throw them out to murder them.
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In recent months, the theme of offering liberals free helicopter rides has become a fun, sneaky
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way for Trump supporters to threaten to kill their political rivals without the risk of
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actually saying it in this video that Alex has posted and is making propaganda out of.
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There's clear evidence of rampant Nazi abuse being thrown at this child, as well as overt
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death threats.
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Weirdly, Alex doesn't seem to have any problem with that.
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And the article that he wrote about this doesn't even bring it up.
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It has that video embedded in it.
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They don't even talk about the idea of this Nazi abuse being hurled at an 11-year-old.
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It's because Alex likes that sort of thing.
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The real abuse that Desmond will face in life is going to come from people like Alex, not
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from people who allow him to pursue whatever version of personal truth he sees fit.
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The fact that Alex wants the targeting of Desmond to continue couldn't be clearer than
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in the last line of that article written by Adan Salazar.
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Quote, this will likely not be the last we hear of Desmond as the left continues to push
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its demoralizing, pedophilic agenda.
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So, I mean, what we have here is just a video where people were being really dicks.
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And it's very heavily edited, so who knows what else was going on in that live stream.
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But it's an edit of an 11-year-old not understanding that Nazis are saying horrible things
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to them, and then just reading off the screen.
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Pretty good reading skills, I'll say.
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For a cold read?
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That's not bad.
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I don't know how good a cold reading I was at 11.
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That's not bad.
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I want to say...
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This kid is a fucking dynamite performer.
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I would say that...
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Let's take a listen to Alex's cold reading skills in the past.
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Not great.
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How are we doing?
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Not as good as that.
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How good of a reader is Alex?
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Not as good as this 11-year-old.
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No, he's not.
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So we see this here.
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This is Alex's sort of pièce de résistance in terms of this narrative, and you see where
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it's coming from, and it's bullshit.
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All he's doing is trying to create a target out of a child because it works best for his
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narratives, and all the stuff he's saying are lies.
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Desmond didn't say that there's a P in LGBTP.
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He was confused.
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Reading.
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And as I understand it, he is the preferred pronoun.
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He's gender fluid, but all the articles that I read seem...
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In that line, I don't know if I'm using the wrong pronoun.
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I apologize.
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But that seems to be the way it shakes out.
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But all this is just the worst.
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He's the worst.
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So at this point, they go to break, and they come back.
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Alex isn't in studio anymore.
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Good.
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We got...
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Good.
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He should fucking go to bed.
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We got a fill-in.
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And I hope he dies.
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We got a fill-in...
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Christ.
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...of somebody else doing a worse job of covering the same topics.
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It would be considered at least inappropriate...
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You suck!
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...at the most child abuse.
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But if it's surrounding the topic or the art, they say, of drag culture or transsexualism,
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then it's okay.
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You're not allowed to talk about it.
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Well...
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Shocking.
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In fact, you know what?
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Can you just pull that?
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Because I gotta...
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I mean...
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But here's the deal.
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If you don't like to, you know, abuse your kids psychologically, and you like to take
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care of your kids' health, we've got great supplements right now.
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MOTHERFUCKER!
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You motherfucker!
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Try to segue it from that.
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You fucking die!
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I suppose.
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Oh my god, walk into a fucking bus!
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Isn't that amazing?
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That like...
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Holy shit!
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That, uh...
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And even at the end there, you're probably yelling over it, but he's like,
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how do you transition out of that?
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That's how you do it.
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As someone who prides themselves on their transitions,
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Owen, not a great job.
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Don't pat yourself on the back for that.
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That was not smooth.
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You took a very long pause and then just said,
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if you don't want to abuse your children by our supplements,
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which also have lead in them, so...
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God damn it!
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You...
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I...
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Fucking...
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You're child abusers!
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I mean...
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You're abusing children!
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No.
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You're abusing him!
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Well, we have to make a fine distinction on this.
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I think it is important.
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What they are doing is not necessary.
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It's abusive in nature to some extent,
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but what they're doing precipitates the abuse of children.
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If you don't know by now that that's what...
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If you don't know...
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No, they know.
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If you don't know, then I get your point.
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If you don't know that what you're doing is going to directly lead
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to the fucking abuse of a child,
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then I get that you might just be facilitating it.
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They know.
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They know goddamn well that what they are saying
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is leading to a child being abused.
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That is like saying that a general doesn't kill anybody
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because all he does is put troops where they need to go, Dan.
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The general doesn't kill anybody.
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I understand that, but at the same time,
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the general does direct the flow of where these troops are going
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and they're just suggesting where they go.
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I know it's a fine distinction.
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It's just the same...
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I don't buy it at all.
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I know.
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I don't buy that distinction whatsoever.
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They are purposefully, deliberately abusing children.
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That should be a literal crime.
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What they just did should be a literal crime.
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I am frustrated that it's not.
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I'm frustrated too, but I also don't think that creates a better world.
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I think that you would end up with some real fucked up implications for free speech.
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Okay, so here's our law.
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You don't get to direct your millions of followers to scream at a child.
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Well, they could hide behind whatever they've done as not doing that
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because they haven't told anybody to attack this kid.
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Alex has gone out of his way to facetiously care about the quote unquote victim.
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I mean, you can hide behind any kind of couched language that you want
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and still do the exact same...
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You would have the same effect getting around whatever you're saying.
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You would end up in a really nebulous place
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where you'd end up having to get so granular with it that it's not worth it.
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But see, that's where we go back into our ongoing and never-ending argument
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about how you discern bad faith actors in a legal sense, which I get.
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You can't.
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I get...
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No, no, no.
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I get.
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I get that.
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I'm not saying that I'm going to write the law.
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I'm not saying that I have some sort of ability to police this in a way that makes sense
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or that it is even possible.
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But from a moral standpoint, those guys are abusing children.
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Oh, sure.
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And I think that probably...
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Purposefully!
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Desmond and his parents probably have some decent argument
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in terms of like some sort of libel action.
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Like the idea that Alex is coming on air and saying that this 11-year-old
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is saying that pedophiles are a part of the LGBT community and stuff like that.
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I think that there is probably some sort of grievous damage that could be argued from that.
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I think there's a decent argument there, but in terms of outlawing stuff,
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I think you're just...
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Not you, but I think one would be chasing their own tail.
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I get it.
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That's my point.
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I totally get it.
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I totally get it.
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Maybe some sort of civil action could be appropriate,
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but the only people who have the right to bring that is the people who are aggrieved.
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God!
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I want him to lie about us so bad.
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He knows better than that.
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I want him to lie about us so bad,
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I want to have standing to sue you for every goddamn penny you have, Alex!
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He knows better.
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Come on!
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So anyway, Owen...
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Step at me!
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I'm an adult!
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Owen's hosting and it's confusing as to like, why?
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Why did Alex disappear?
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Turns out, he said why at the beginning of the show and I just haven't told you.
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Owen Schroyer's coming in.
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I literally have Hillary Clinton's law firm here today,
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deposing me so I'm gonna be off and on the show throughout the transmission today.
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Thank you, Dan.
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It's definitely heating up around here.
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Oh, it is heating up.
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Those aren't Hillary Clinton's lawyers.
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Dan, that was the best hammer you've ever dropped.
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He's been...
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That was my favorite hammer drop you've ever had, Dan.
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I'm proud of you.
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Owen Schroyer left the studio in order to have Alex go give a deposition.
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So Alex is gone and Owen Schroyer hosts.
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It's boring as fuck.
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I can't even explain how painful it is to listen to him.
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I just listen to him and yes you can and it's just listening to that.
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He interviews Leo Zagami, who I haven't seen in a while.
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Oh, that's nice.
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That fucking weirdo.
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How's Zagami doing?
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Illuminati insider and Vatican expert Leo Zagami.
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The priest said I still killing people.
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Past Project Camelot guest Leo Zagami.
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He's in...
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He actually...
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I didn't pull a clip of this because who gives a shit,
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but he's spinning a weird narrative about the idea
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that Bolsonaro being in office in Brazil is great and has to do with like...
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I really don't like that people love murdering so much.
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It's wild that Leo Zagami is also on that too.
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I don't like it.
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Weird.
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See, the Vatican is killing and raping everybody,
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but this guy who has killed and raped a bunch of people, he's great.
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It's weird.
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It's weird that all these people have this through line of supporting authoritarians.
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And you might think, Jordan, that's an offensive Italian accent.
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If you had played Leo Zagami...
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Sounds very similar.
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Dead on.
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It's pretty close.
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Dead on.
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You're a little bit...
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I'm a little broad.
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I'm a little broad, but that's for comic effect.
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You need to keep it in Tuscan.
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You're venturing a little bit far from the countryside, but you're not far off.
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So Alex comes back and I think he pulled a prank on Owen, but I'm not sure.
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Listen to this and see if you think this is a prank.
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I think it is.
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Take it away, Owen.
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And Alex Jones is back with us.
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All right, thanks.
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All right.
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We're having some fun today.
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You turned his mic off?
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That's your prank?
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I think it was a prank.
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His prank is he turned his mic off?
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I think it was.
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I think Alex is feeling feisty after giving this deposition.
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I just beat Hillary's lawyers.
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Or I just lost my shit, yelling at fake Hillary's lawyers.
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Um, and I've got to assert power in the only way I know how, which is fucking with my subordinates.
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So take it away, Owen, knowing that his mic is off.
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He's a great boss.
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He's a great guy to work for, Dan.
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Dan, do you want a, do you want a gig?
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Do you want another office deep?
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Dan, Dan!
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Oh no, my mic is turned off!
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You're so funny!
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We like to have fun.
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I'm certain that's a prank.
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It has to be, right?
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There's no other explanation for that.
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No, there's no other explanation.
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I mean, they run an amateurish operation.
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No, for sure.
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But no, that was, that was 100% on purpose.
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Alex on air is, take it away, Owen.
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Yep.
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It's gotta be.
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And the little...
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We like to have fun around here.
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Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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And you can almost sense from Owen to a sense of like, all right.
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Yeah, no, absolutely.
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Let's listen to that again.
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It brings me joy.
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Give me one more time.
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Take it away, Owen.
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And Alex Jones is back with us.
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All right, thanks.
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All right.
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We're having some fun today.
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That, all right, all right.
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That's exasperation.
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That is a put upon man.
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Yep.
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That's a guy who, this isn't the first fucking time Alex has done something that's like,
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look, I am 15 years younger than you, maybe?
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I think you're lying about your age, but technically I'm probably on paper 15 years younger than
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you, and I'm trying to be a fucking professional.
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I'm trying to be a professional.
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I'm on paper 15 years younger than you, and I'm trying to be a fucking professional.
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I'm boring.
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I'm not great at this, but I'm trying, and you are just fucking it up, you son of a bitch.
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That is, that is such the sound of a man who's like, why do I get paid by this guy?
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Deep sigh.
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Couldn't I have done, I could have been so many other things.
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What if I went to a real journalism school?
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I should go back to school.
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I could have just gone to a real journalism school.
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I shouldn't have left Missouri.
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I could have been a pipe fitter.
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My grandfather was a pipe fitter.
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My father was a pipe fitter.
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And I got stuck with this John Birch fucking monster.
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So Alex, uh, in his, uh, coming back on the show in the third hour, um, doesn't say a
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whole lot, just rambling about a bunch of nonsense, but he says something and it is
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so awesome.
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I I've been, I've been wanting to find him saying this and I haven't found it.
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I've never found it.
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I found other people saying this.
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We've clowned on people saying this before we've never been able to make it stick to
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Alex.
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Now we can.
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Not all the fellow reserves are bad because they're not really the fellow reserve.
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They just take care of the management of the low level stuff.
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But policy is set by the New York fed.
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That's the real holding corporation.
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That's 80 plus percent.
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Whatever.
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Well, I know this is congressional testimony and in 1913 before it was there, it is senators
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in a quorum vote on December 23rd, 1913 everybody else was gone for recess for Christmas.
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They were roasting chestnuts by the fire and have a nice cup of coffee.
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Mama was in there cooking the Turkey and they were all back pushing this thing through that
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gave a private or central bank's total control over the currency, over the interest rates,
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over all of it.
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So Alex, that is so awesome because we've only heard Wayne Paul say that in the Obama
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deception.
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Oh, hell yeah.
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And it's easy enough to write off that happening as Wayne Paul being an old kook.
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He is an old kook.
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Certainly.
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But you can't really pin that to Alex because we know a couple of things about Alex.
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One is he fetishizes the Paul family and so he'd give them deference over anything.
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Yeah.
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And maybe Wayne didn't say anything else in those interviews that was usable.
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Right.
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He was like, oh, this sounds good.
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Yeah.
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And Alex is a lazy fucking editor.
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So the idea that that was in his movie, you can't really stick it to him.
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There's too many other explanations.
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But now Alex in 2018 on his show is arguing that that three people pushed through the
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Federal Reserve.
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And he says on December 23rd, when everyone was home cooking chestnuts on the open fire.
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I want to tell you this.
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On December 23rd, 1913, you know what happened?
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Woodrow Wilson signed the bill into law.
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And earlier in the day, the Senate voted on it.
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OK, then that means that that's how law works.
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I've seen schoolhouse rock.
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Woodrow Wilson signed the bill into a law.
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The Senate voted on it.
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That means it spent zero time being written or discussed long time.
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There were no committees.
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There were no language disputes.
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There were no amendments.
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It was simply done on that day.
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Damn, everything was written up.
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It was actually just freestyled by one of those senators and a goddamn stenographer
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wrote it down and it became law.
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Tell me that is the truth there.
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No, it traces back to at least like January 1912 when there were bills introduced that
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were very similar.
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And then there was a process of refinement and all that.
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December 22nd, 1913, the House voted on it was 298 yeas to 60 nays with 76 not voting.
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But again, as we discussed, there were 34 announced pairs.
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So that accounts for 68 of the 76 people who didn't vote.
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They were paired up as one yay and we're going to vote.
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No, you're going to vote yay.
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So let's all get out of here.
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So 298 to 60 is very close to what the vote would have been if everyone showed up or at
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least is representative.
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Right.
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So that was on the 22nd.
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On the 23rd, it went to the Senate, same bill.
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It was voted in 43 yeas, 25 nays, 27 not voting with 13 announced pairs, which accounts for
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26 of the 27 non voters.
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Right.
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This idea that three people is utter bullshit.
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Where did that even come from?
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It's just a dumb thing that exists in Patriot mythology and in sort of these anti-tax communities.
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It's all just a load of bullshit.
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But what it is, is there's a lot bigger story to it.
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And a lot of it is in like none dare call it conspiracy and stuff like that.
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It all traces back to a lot of like weird anti-communist dudes.
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Pez dispensers.
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Yeah, in years past.
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And so I honestly would love to know the specific answer to this.
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Why do they think that?
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Because it's not true.
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And name them.
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Sure, that would be good.
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I would like the names of the three senators.
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I would like their names.
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I would like their career stats.
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Right.
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I would like to know if they average 20 and 10 a night or what kind of level they were
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dealing with here.
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The bigger point and the thing that's really important is Alex is here talking shit.
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He's talking straight shit.
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The idea that he's coming on his show and saying that the Federal Reserve was pushed
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through by three people, that's indefensible.
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Like we can make so many jokes.
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I mean, the stuff about Desmond is Awesome is unforgivable on a human level.
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And absolutely is the more important piece of everything.
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But the idea that he's coming in and he's talking about, I understand anthropology and
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archaeology and most civilizations only last two to three hundred years because the priest
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class rises up, makes pyramids and then wants to fuck kids.
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Sure.
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That's like, all right, buddy, calm down.
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This is it's way worse to me because that should be a sign to everybody listening.
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Get out.
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Yeah.
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Like you could make an argument that it's going to take you too long to understand past
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civilizations or something like that.
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That would involve reading a lot of books.
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This one is a Google search.
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It's even just like the document that you guys fucking jerk off on all the goddamn time
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literally will not allow that to happen.
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No, no.
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That's not a thing that can happen.
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No. And in our Obama deception coverage, I think we war games what would have happened
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if three senators the idea of how easy a veto would have been, even if Woodrow Wilson signed
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it.
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Yeah.
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It's all just fucking complete nonsense.
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It is.
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It is like a principle.
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Even if they were in favor of the Federal Reserve, I guarantee those senators would
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still be like bullshit.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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Of course.
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As soon as you get back, you're like, no, we're not that.
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Look, hey, guys, guess what?
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Guess what?
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The Constitution also allows for a new bill saying do over.
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Right.
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If all of them got together and were like, we don't like this, you guys in a variously
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put three dudes to push that through.
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Guess what?
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We have a majority who is going to now vote for not this bill, the bill that undoes your
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bill or whatever.
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There's a hundred fucking different versions.
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This is lunacy.
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It's stupid.
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I love it, though.
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They're so great that Alex said it to to the stupid.
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There is nothing more nefarious than a group of intelligent people getting together and
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not asking for your dumb, uninformed and pointless opinion and then doing something that's better
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for you.
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Yeah, that's something that they have to destroy.
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Wait, don't you?
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No, no, no, no, no.
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Don't you write the Obamacare bill without asking me whether or not there were enough
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senators to vote on the Federal Reserve.
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Fuck you.
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You're stupid.
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Yeah.
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Go away.
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Yeah.
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I mean, my my bigger point, I think is the only thing I really want to stress is like.
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I, I kind of like I should have done this a long time ago, quite frankly, but I give
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up on all hope of anybody who believes in Alex Jones.
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If they hear him say and I'm sure he said it before, it hasn't come up in any of the
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episodes that we've covered him saying the three people number.
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Yeah.
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Only heard that from Wayne Paul.
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Right.
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But the idea that anybody could possibly listen to his show, hear that and not be like, huh?
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What?
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Yeah, they're gone.
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Yeah.
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And I'm not saying I'm not saying I'm not saying they're a lost cause and they can't
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eventually find the right path.
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But I am saying.
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I don't I don't give a shit if your spidey sense doesn't chime in there.
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You you are dumb as a pile of rocks.
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So congratulations, Alex.
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What you have done is it's the same thing that YouTube's algorithm does in terms of
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like radicalizing people by gradually more and more extreme videos being recommended
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to them.
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Yeah, Alex has done the sort of, I guess, similar, but almost reverse thing where because
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of all of his troubles and his his amplified rhetoric and his dumbing down of his own content,
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what he's done is ensured that the only people that are left are just ineffectual dullards
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who dumb.
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And it's you can't you can't have questioning people at all in your audience.
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Oh, no, absolutely.
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Can't have curious, reasonable people if you say three people passed the Federal Reserve
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into existence and they aren't like, Alex, please retract that.
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I like you, but that is unacceptable.
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It's ridiculous.
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You can't have any thinking people.
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No, it's crazy.
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Absolutely not.
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So anyway, congratulations, Alex.
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I hate you.
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Keep that Christmas sale going.
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Jesus, yeah.
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Because you have nothing.
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God, I want him to come at us so bad.
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I want to sue him for something.
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I'm just so I today just we have these episodes.
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It's weird.
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We have these episodes where, like, for the most part, I think we're just like having
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fun.
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We're talking about a monster.
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We're talking about a monster.
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But it's it's that kind of ineffectual stupid monster.
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Yeah.
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But whenever it is such a whenever he takes it and focuses that ineffectual stupidity
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and and diffuses it amongst his monstrous following, and then he focuses it on a child.
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It's crazy.
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That's that's awful.
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Yeah, that's that like, I know I can't hammer on this enough.
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He's morally directing thousands upon thousands of people to hurl abuse towards a kid all
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in the name of saying that the leftists are abusing a kid.
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Yeah, no, totally.
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That's fucked up.
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Yeah, I mean, all you have to do is put two pieces of information together, the aftermath
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and consequences of his behavior vis a vis Sandy Hook and his behavior now.
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Exactly.
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That's all you have to do is all you got to do together to reasonably and rationally
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expect, oh, your actions now are going to lead to the same sort of response.
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Now, I'll say this, and this is cold comfort on some level.
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But when Sandy Hook happened, his audience was probably much wider than it is now, given
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that he is off YouTube, he can't, you know, he's off Twitter and that sort of thing.
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I think that there's a decent chance that the effect he can have in terms of precipitating
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abuse for Desmond is lower than it was a few years ago.
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But the flip side of that coin is, as I've already said, the people who are still around
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are dumber.
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More radicalized.
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Right.
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Yeah.
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So there's the possibility that the smaller amount of people who are still around might
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be more prone to being that sort of person.
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But who knows?
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We can't say for sure.
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I mean, but the other argument against that, though, is, yeah, his audience was wider back
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then, but if they have left by now, chances are they also probably weren't the ones who
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were hurling abuse.
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Yeah, they weren't the ones who are doing the Sandy Hook shit.
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Totally possible.
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Yeah.
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It's speculative to some nature, and it really doesn't matter because I don't look at things
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like this based on the outcome, necessarily.
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The outcome is illustrative of why you shouldn't do the thing, but the morality of it is based
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on should you do this or not.
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It's not consequence-based, necessarily.
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Actions are...
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God, I cannot imagine.
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I really can't imagine a situation where I would be fine with any of that.
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Yeah, I mean, it's fucked up that Adan Salazar wrote that article, and then it's fucked up
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that any...
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Like, you imagine that maybe there are editors at InfoWars.
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I know there are people whose titles are editor, like Paul Joseph Watson, but like...
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Yeah, but who actually reads it and...
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I don't know what the process is like, but the idea that someone wrote that article,
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and then...
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I believe it's L. Ron Hubbard's process, which is first draft, last draft, get it out the
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door.
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Sure.
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But the idea in any other journalistic outfit, there would be stages of review that it would
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have to go through before it was ever posted on the site or published or anything like
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that.
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And you know, I know that InfoWars doesn't work like that, but I still hold them to that
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standard, so I imagine that someone looked at that and said, good, put it on the site,
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let's do this.
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Yep.
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I can't imagine adults being like that.
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That's disgusting.
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Yeah.
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It's really, really fucking gross.
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It's next level bad.
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Yeah.
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So congratulations, Alex, you've grossed us out.
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Even after two years...
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Even after all of the fucking shit we've watched you do, you are a disgusting pile of shit
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once more.
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Which is honestly...
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There's no floor.
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There's no floor.
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I wanted to look and see what happened on the 20th.
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I wanted to see what happened on Thursday, but after all that, I was just kind of exhausted.
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Yeah, no, no, fuck that.
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I expected to find stuff about Flynn and Roger Stone, and instead...
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Yeah, I don't...
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Damn. I want him to go away for a while.
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Yeah.
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Christ.
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Happy holidays, Alex.
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Hope that Christmas sale's going great.
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Yeah.
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Anyway, guys, we'll be back.
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It doesn't appear that we'll be taking a break for...
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Don't think so.
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The next week.
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So we'll be back on Monday and all.
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We will see you then.
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But until then, we have a website.
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We do have a website.
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KnowledgeFight.com.
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Indeed, we're on the Twitters.
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It's true, it's Knowledge underscore Fight.
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We got a Facebook.
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That's correct.
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Got a Facebook group call.
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Go home, tell your mother you're brilliant.
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Yep.
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We are on iTunes.
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That is right.
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You can go there.
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Leave a review, subscribe, comment.
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You can do the whole thing.
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Tell your friends.
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We're less...
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We're more interested in just more people listening.
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Yeah, each one to each one.
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Tell your friends.
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Snitch on the show.
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Hell yeah.
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We see the growth that comes from that, and we appreciate it.
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Absolutely.
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I will say that Desmond is awesome.
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Never killed anybody.
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I guarantee Desmond has never killed anybody.
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I am positive of that.
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11 years, it's not enough time to have killed somebody, generally speaking.
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There are exceptions to any rule, but I'm gonna go with Desmond.
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There are accidental guns you might find around someone's house.
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But Alex says that doesn't happen.
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No.
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I don't think you have the muscle strength to get a good stab in.
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I might be wrong.
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Who knows?
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I mean, maybe on somebody younger than you.
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I still think that your musculature isn't right for a stab.
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A good stab is fine.
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I'm basing this on nothing.
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Good stab is fine.
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Sure.
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What did I say?
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I don't know.
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My point is that Desmond is awesome has never killed anybody, although he is being attacked
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by a guy who technically probably has, and that's Alex Jones.
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Andy in Kansas.
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You're on the air.
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Thanks for holding.
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Hello, Alex.
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I'm a first time caller.
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I'm a huge fan.
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I love your work.
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I love you.