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Andy in Kansas, you're on the air, thanks for holding.

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Hello Alex, I'm a first time caller, I'm a huge fan, I love your work.

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I love you.

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Hey everybody, welcome back to Knowledge Fight, I'm Dan.

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I'm Jordan.

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We're a couple dudes, like to sit around, drink novelty beverages, and talk a little bit about Alex Jones.

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Hey indeed we are, Dan. Dan.

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What up?

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Dan.

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Playboy.

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Say we were, uh, it was, it's a hot summer's day.

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It's pretty warm here in the Chi, I'll tell you that.

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There is a, there is a classic Chicago guy, the guy who leaves his house wearing a button-up short-sleeve shirt.

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Sure.

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With no undershirt beneath it.

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Classic guy.

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Starts drinking around 1 p.m., leaves the bar around 6, begins walking, notices there's a nice breeze, unbuttons his shirt entirely, and then walks around with his gut hanging out.

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Have you been day drinking and hiding your gut?

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If you saw this man.

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Oh, okay. So this is sort of like the guy who I saw the other day tiptoe chasing people around.

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Exactly.

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I would tell him, hey everybody, uh, I'd call him everybody.

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You would call him everybody?

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I'd say, hey, I got a podcast about Alex Jones, and he'd be like, I know a lot about him, my friend doesn't, and then I'd slap his belly for good luck.

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That's a good idea.

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Happy Memorial Day.

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Exactly.

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Uh, to the chat room, this is not a hipster shirt, this is designed as a paps shirt, but it's like a Lovecraft shirt.

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Yes.

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You have a theme.

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I just, my brother, every birthday or Christmas, he tends to give me a Cthulhu-themed gift, and that ends up being a bit of my wardrobe because I never buy clothes.

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Right.

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So I end up having a couple of Lovecraft shirts, and that's why, but I guess that is actually even more hipster than if it were just paps.

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There you go.

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I will accept my fate.

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Hold on, sir. I'm not a hipster. I'm one of the elder ones.

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Right.

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Thank you.

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I'm going to celebrate the, yeah, it's more nerdy than anything else.

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Anywho, Jordan, we've got a fun episode to go over today, but before we get to it, I'd like to say thank you to a new donor.

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Someone donating to the show, very excited, this is someone who's been down to clown for a while, someone who's been listening since back in the Freezin' Point days.

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Okay.

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I know that because he has the best name in the world, what's going on out there, Scrump?

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I'm a policy wonk.

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Thank you so much, Scrump.

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Thanks for joining up with the team.

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Calm down, Jordan.

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Don't laugh at my boy, Scrump.

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Anyway, what?

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What?

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Okay, we can just move along.

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Scrump?

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Yeah, people have names.

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All right.

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So, speaking of names, I'd like to also give a new name in title form, a new honorific name.

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All right.

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To someone who certainly merits this title, we're giving out the next in the Raptor Princess.

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Oh, okay.

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All right, there we go.

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Someone who's been super supportive and is a big help.

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I really appreciate everything he does.

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Congratulations, Prop Do.

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You are now a Raptor Princess.

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I'm a policy wonk.

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Four stars.

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Go home to your mother and tell her you're brilliant.

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Someone, someone, sodomite, sent me a bucket of poop.

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Daddy Shark.

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Bomp, bomp, bomp, bomp, bomp.

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Jar Jar Binks has a Caribbean black accent.

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He's a loser, little titty baby.

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I don't want to hate black people.

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I renounce Jesus Christ.

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I know how to read.

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I am out of control.

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I've never really seen a lot of white racism in my life.

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I really haven't.

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I bet you money there are few living black people that have been abused by white people

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as much as I have been abused by black people.

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Adolf Hitler, Joseph Stalin.

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Both those guys were complete badasses.

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Complete studs.

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Welcome to McDonald's.

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May I help you?

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I'm Benny Sanders.

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Yeah, hell yeah.

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Shout out.

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That is maybe now too long, I think.

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Way too long.

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If we incorporate another level, we're fucked.

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It's over with.

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Anyway.

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If you're using the Apple podcast app, just hit the 15 seconds about six times and then

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you're done with that clip.

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So Jordan, I got a couple pieces of business to take care of before we get to today's episode.

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First order of business, I did announce this on one of our live streams, but I ended up

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cutting it out of the episode that we released because I thought that the way I framed it

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was poor and shitty.

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So you've had some time to think about it.

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You've written in your dream journal.

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I would like to propose a new goal.

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I do.

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Thank you.

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No, I'm already married to Penny in Stardew Valley.

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I'm sorry.

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I cannot marry you, Jordan.

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A couple months back, we had a little bit of a drive towards raising a certain amount

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of donations that would trigger us launching into our endgame coverage, which ended up

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being nine hours long and exhaustively defeating, describing and breaking down what kind of

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bullshit he was throwing around there.

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I would like to do a similar thing with Alex Jones's spiritual Bible, the book that woke

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him up, none dare call it conspiracy.

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However, I've been going through it and I realize we can't do it as a podcast.

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It would be 30 hours long.

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So I have begun essentially writing a book about why this book sucks.

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Okay.

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Because I'm going line by line through this fucking thing and deconstructing so much of

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why it's wrong, all of the context they're getting off, how many, let's say, Nazi apologist

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propagandists are quoted as primary sources mysteriously, things like that.

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And I'm realizing this is just going to be a disaster.

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We can't do it as a podcast.

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Okay.

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So from what I understand correctly, your next marathon reward that will be given out

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as we reach some sort of goal is going to not feature me at all.

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Whoa.

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Yes.

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Less work for you.

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Yeah.

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I mean, you could-

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Off the hook.

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You could help proofread.

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I'll tighten up your language a little bit.

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Oh no, because you always tell me to stop using the passive voice.

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I'm telling you, Dan, just let me run over it with a red pen.

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Passive voice for life.

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No.

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So this isn't going to come out as a book necessarily, but it will probably be book

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length as we get to the end of it.

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It'll be up on knowledgefight.com.

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It'll be a series of blog posts that'll all just be deconstructing all of this.

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And I will begin to release it.

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The incentive that I am going to propose, and maybe people think this is stupid, but

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I don't want people who already donate to the show to feel like they need to give more

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and feel like they have to maybe donate more than they're comfortable with or anything

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like that.

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Oh no, absolutely not.

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I hate any kind of...

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Because people would want this to be released and I don't want-

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Do you think that?

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I think some people would.

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And I don't want them to feel like I'm going to give more money and make this happen.

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So what I'm going to propose-

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Like a lot of Kickstarter rewards are things that are positive.

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Right.

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Instead of, hey, I am going to punish you with a book report.

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Yeah.

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So why I propose, and whatever, we'll see, is 15 new donors, new donors from the time

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that we're recording this, which is Memorial Day 2018 until the end of June.

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Right.

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So throughout the month of June, if we can get 15 new donors-

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We will have our Easter sale.

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Yes.

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It is 30% off to donate.

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And I will begin releasing the posts about what's wrong with none dare call it conspiracy

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and why only a stupid person would ever fall for the bullshit that's written about within

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it starting on July 1st.

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All right.

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So that is the next incentive goal we have.

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And if anybody would like to donate, you can go to knowledgeflight.com, click support the

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show.

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Sorry, too long.

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This will be our new Independence Day when we declare independence-

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Independence Day!

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From none dare call it a conspiracy.

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The lizard folk.

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The lizard folk?

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Yes.

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I thought they were part of the good guys.

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No.

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Raptors, bad-

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Reptoids.

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Reptoids.

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Whatever, who cares?

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Okay.

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So the other thing is I am nothing if not full of desire to correct myself.

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Yeah.

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And so I needed to, I need to call myself out about this.

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On the last episode, I ended up cutting out something at the beginning after we released

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it.

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So some people heard the version that has this in it and some people would have heard

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the version that doesn't.

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And just because I like to smite myself, I was operating on a little bit of lack of information

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about the 1,500 children who have gone missing from the immigrant children.

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I conflated a couple things and I spoke of that in an irresponsible way, and I felt bad

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about that so I cut it out of the episode.

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And I would like to call myself out on it in case people heard it before I had taken

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it out and be like, hey, we shouldn't talk about that.

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The splitting up families and the children who are unaccounted for are completely different

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stories, and conflating them is possibly not the right thing to do.

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I don't know enough about it and I feel stupid.

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Right.

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On the other hand, both are staggering evil, so, I mean, six in one hand, half a dozen

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in the other kind of situation because why is either of those fucking things happening?

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Well, because I looked more into that 1,500 children thing and I read an interesting perspective

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on it where a lot of the people who were reported as...

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In town hall, they said, do we like kids?

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It's not that.

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They're released from custody to people who might be family members or might be a friend

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of the family or something like that.

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So when they're checked up on to see what their whereabouts are, it's possible that

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the person who's taking care of them and is their guardian doesn't want to answer questions.

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Yeah, no, run, run, run, go hide.

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Them being unaccounted for doesn't necessarily mean they're in a negative situation.

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They might just be with guardians who don't want to deal with the government rightfully

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so, considering what they're up to now.

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No, we live in a world where like a hundred years from now, if we found a thriving civilization

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in a forest somewhere, then their legend was like, well, the white man came to take us

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away.

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We'd be like, oh yeah, no, that was ICE.

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Sorry about that.

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That was America.

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My bad.

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My bad for creating a whole secret society or whatever, but yeah.

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I just felt like a bit of a dumb ass when I looked more into it and I was like, I feel

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like we should have be completely above board and apologize for speaking a little bit too

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flippantly.

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Now, granted, some of those people could be in negative situations and I hope that's not

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the case, but I don't know enough and I don't think we know enough.

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Pretty sure the crushing daily fear of a horrific government changing the rules on you at any

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given moment and destroying your life, even if you're with a good home, that's usually

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a fucked up way to feel about yourself.

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That other stuff, I stand by what we said, that ICE can go fuck themselves.

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Yeah, they can go fuck themselves.

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So anyway, the other thing is I need to give another correction.

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On our last episode, we talked about Michael Rotondo, the 30 year old guy who's gotten

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evicted from his parents' house and he was on Alex's show and I need to issue a correction.

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They did another episode.

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Here's an out of context drop from what we're going to be going over today.

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Wait, what?

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But in closing, I just want to say that I don't think you're a loser.

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Thank you.

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Yeah.

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They, after-

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In closing.

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In closing.

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I don't think you're a loser.

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Wait.

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Thank you.

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They kept going?

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I thought we figured out how to be a surrogate father pretty quick there and how he was failing

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at it miserably.

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Yeah.

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So this is him trying to correct his own mistakes, part two, the never ending story.

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What ended up happening is he had him as a guest on the show.

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Yeah.

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They talk for a good hour and a half.

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They do that Infowars employee roulette where everyone's trying to cut him out.

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Creepy as fuck.

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It's insane.

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Then the war room comes on or whatever.

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Why?

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Alex and Michael Rotondo, the 30 year old whose parents took him to court to kick him

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out of the house who also has a conviction for stalking.

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They sit down across a table from each other and have a bull session because Alex realizes

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he, you hit the nail on the head.

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He realized he didn't do a good enough job of being this guy's daddy.

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Right.

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So he's got to try again.

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Wait.

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So he goes on a different show?

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No, no.

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Isn't the war room supposed to be a different show?

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This isn't on that show.

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This is, I think it's recorded while that show is happening, but it's in a side studio.

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Like they're in the back.

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They're behind him.

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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Might as well be.

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So they're in a side studio.

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Hey guys, could you knock it down?

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We're trying to record a show in here.

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No, no, no, no.

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We're trying to record a show in here.

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We're talking on the wall, hitting the wall with a broom.

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So I, I normally would say, all right, we fucked, we fucked up, man.

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We talked about the episode, uh, already.

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We can't go back to the well and we've never really done this necessarily been like, okay,

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here's part two of this.

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I don't, I don't think we've done that a lot, but I listened to this.

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There's not more.

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Oh, there's, there's not more.

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There's so much more.

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It's a weird guy.

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Oh no.

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Weird situation.

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No, no, no, weird shit's happening.

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Alex is weird.

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Trying to save white people from themselves.

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Take the weird guy completely out of the equation.

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This is all about Alex.

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Oh, we understand that.

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Yeah.

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This goes so deep into Alex.

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He says he gets so esoteric.

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He gets, he's talking in riddles.

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He seems slightly dusted.

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Okay.

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All right.

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He's this close to being like, there's two of me.

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One only tells the truth.

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One can only lie.

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He's so close to it.

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This goes so far off the rails that I, there was no way around it.

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Okay.

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We have to play it.

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All right.

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We have to go over it.

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All right.

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Um, but then the other thing is there's one more correction I need to make before we get

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onto the show.

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This is something that I meant to say on the last episode and I didn't make it clear enough

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and I really regret it.

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And I was thinking about editing into the episode, just a little bit of my voice being

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like, so here, and then pretend that you just didn't respond to it.

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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That would have, that would have sounded really natural.

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That's cheap.

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Yeah.

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So the thing that I didn't make clear enough is that.

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And then Pucci went back to his home planet.

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Michael Rotondo is 30 years old, right?

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How long is he, how long did he say he's been living with his parents?

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Uh, at least since Alien Gonzalez?

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He said eight years he's been living with his parents.

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Okay.

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So the episode was Michael Rotondo when he got arrested for stalking a woman.

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22.

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22.

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Hmm.

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The reason he probably moved back in with his parents was because he got arrested for

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stalking a lady.

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Hmm.

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So that is not really.

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We can't prove those timelines, Matt.

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Ha ha ha!

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You son of a bitch.

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Yes, you, I mean, you can make a pretty strong argument, I say.

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Nah, I don't know.

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I withhold judgment.

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Oh, hey.

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Also get this.

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He has a different address when he was arrested, so he's clearly living on his own.

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Right.

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So he was living on his own when he got arrested for stalking a lady.

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Yeah, yeah.

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And then, oh, mysteriously, at some point a little bit later that year, he moved back

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in with his parents.

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No, I respect where you're coming from here.

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No causal relationship there.

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I get that.

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Coincidences can happen, Matt.

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Fuck you.

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It's possible.

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Fuck you.

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Who knows?

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Also to the chat room before we get into this.

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Yes, still not smoking.

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Over a week now, baby.

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Now let's do this.

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Yeah.

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Uh, Jordan.

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What are we doing?

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This is so fucked up.

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What is happening?

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So the, the, the, the episode.

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So Alex is, uh, if I, let me, let me make a, uh, prediction here.

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Alex.

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I love, I love a prediction.

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Alex is.

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Because you're going to be wrong no matter what.

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Alex is going to attempt to channel the ghost of his father's parenting through this child

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and speak to it in the past as though it is something that he wishes had been happened

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to him.

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My friend, there will be ghosts.

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Okay.

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Anyway.

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Yeah.

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Uh, the episode starts or the video starts, the live stream, it's an hour long and it

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starts with, uh, I don't know, at least like 10 seconds of Alex not there, Mike Rotondo

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sitting alone at a table fiddling with the mic.

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Okay.

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Kind of.

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Yeah.

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There's an innocence to it.

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All right.

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And like, uh, this is awful.

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So then Alex walks into frame and he has with him some bottles of super male and what have

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you, which wait, we said that was going to happen.

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Hold on.

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Okay.

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Hold on.

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Okay.

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It's check offs, uh, super male cause it comes in at the beginning, right?

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You know, sooner or later somebody is getting some super mayo sitting there the whole time

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and you're like, yeah, he's got supplements on the table.

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They're there for a reason and we'll get to that later.

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Okay.

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Here's where we start.

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See, I've only got about 25, 30 minutes with you until you got to go catch your plane.

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Right.

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Appreciate you coming into info wars, Michael Rotondo, also known as the man of the week.

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Nope.

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Later in the week, they are what, what saying, uh, the 30 year old perp man that was just

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evicted by his parents in New York.

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You know, I appreciate your courage coming down here to Texas.

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Sure thing.

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Sure thing.

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He's buttering them up.

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So again, this is almost just recapping the stuff from the last episode again, he brings

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up how at least you're not on welfare.

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Yeah.

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I just want to say on a scale of one to 10 people that have drug problems or people that

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are mentally ill or people that are criminals, you're also a criminal.

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You are not even on that scale.

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Great.

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Right.

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That's nice to hear.

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The media made you the ultimate demon in the world, both liberal and conservative media.

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Even the left that pushes dependency and paying for people's anchor babies and sex changes.

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I should not pay for somebody's sex change or their nose job.

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And so I was kind of jumping on you a few days ago, a little bit, but still saying,

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wait a minute.

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But he's not one tip as bad as all these other people.

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I'm not saying I disagreed white with your parents.

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My parents want you out of the house at 30.

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What I am saying is that this whole millennial thing we see of people being obsessed with

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their phones, being obsessed with television, not going out, not getting jobs, being afraid

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of change.

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I think you are indicative of that are actually very, very common.

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I don't mean that in the mean way.

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Okay.

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What is, what is your world perspective on that?

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Well, I think that I've just been doing the best I can and I've been setting forth a reasonable

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effort and, um, I don't think there's really anything, uh, wrong with the things that I've

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done or I say, I say many things that I've done.

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All right.

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Well, I think there's some wrong things by the things that I've done.

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Yeah.

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Like what?

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Like didn't on the earlier episode, he say that he can't think of anything.

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He's proud of his, uh, he's raised a son who's smarter than him is what he said.

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The kid's eight years old.

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Yeah.

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Well, that's probably true.

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Man.

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There's a lot of eights flying around here.

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It's a bad year for this dude.

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His son was, wait, his son was born in the same year.

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He was stalking a lady.

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What if the, what if the person who, I don't know who the person who was stalking was cause

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I think victims names are confidential.

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Right.

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What if he was stalking his baby's mother?

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That would make the most sense.

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That would also explain why he's not allowed to, but he had visitation rights for some

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of the time I believe because it said the 2017 was when he had a case that made it so

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he couldn't talk to his kid anymore.

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Yeah.

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He wasn't allowed to have contact with, he was stalking her back then.

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I would assume that no contact from the jump.

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Right.

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Because he was, yeah, but there are all those fucked up laws in America where it's like

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your rapist can still have visitation rights, you know, like that kind of thing.

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I don't know.

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Like America is a fucked up place.

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I don't know what the Syracuse laws are like.

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Then, uh, it also introduces the idea if it wasn't her eight years ago, he has a baby

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with one lady, right?

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He stalks another lady, gets arrested, may or may not have lost a job.

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That would create the situation where his baby's mom is like, fuck off, get out of here,

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move in with your parents.

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But that would also still leave him in a situation where like, that's not enough to not have

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rights to see your child.

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Right.

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Although I kind of think it should be.

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I'm not, yeah.

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Like if you get arrested for stalking, it's probably like a, hey, you know what, take

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a while off.

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Listen, bro.

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This is all a mess.

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Yeah.

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I'm not going to parse it other than to say I'm not for any of this, but I don't think

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we have a hero in any of this, uh, this episode right here.

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Right?

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No, no, no.

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There's a Chekhov's gun, but there's no, uh, hero's redemption.

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The hero.

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No, nevermind.

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There is a third character we're going to talk about, but he's not a hero either.

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I halfway think that it's like, like Roger Stone should just swoop in and put him on

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a backpack and then they fucking climb to Mount Everest together and he's like, I have

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given you all I know.

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And then he becomes the next, like a Roger Ex Machina.

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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Roger teaches him the ways and he becomes the next evil.

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Like this is the wire, you know, like at the end of the fifth season, you see everybody

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settling into their new roles.

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Like that's, that's the deal.

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Or, uh, Owen or the new Rogers.

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Oh, okay.

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He's clearly training them.

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Yeah.

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But they're, they're shit.

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Yeah.

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They're pretty bad.

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He's got some serious potential.

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He's got that ineffable quality to say no to everything or say, huh, to everything.

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So he was unable to deal with, uh, the question, what's your greatest achievement on the show

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yesterday.

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Uh, but Alex does not have such a difficulty answering that question.

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Although he feigns a little bit of humility, uh, while trying to be like, well, that's

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very difficult.

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So, you know, when I talk about my accomplishments, I don't do it to talk about how I'm big or

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how I'm great.

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Uh, I don't go to red carpet events.

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I'll try to be in movies, even though I could be, I don't, I don't try to do that regular

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hierarchical stuff, but I should talk about my accomplishments sometimes because then

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it gives other people confidence.

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What would you say your, your biggest accomplishment is?

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Well, you asked me that off air earlier and I actually know why you got taken back by

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Drew's.

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It's, it's a big question.

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I don't really think I can answer that honestly, I think I was just about to try to say, it's

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not an easy question.

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I've done some big things politically changing things in the world, but I think the most

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important thing in my life was studying history early on and not lying in the false paradigms

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and then helping launch really a large vein of the global awakening we're seeing right

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now rebooting 1776 worldwide Americana, the Renaissance, you know, I don't talk to you,

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but Nigel Farage, the founder of UKIP that had the whole Brexit that's now spreading

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all over the world.

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People pull out of globalism.

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You've probably heard of Brexit, right?

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I have, he's credited on the air that UKIP was around for about 15 years before I ever

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had him on.

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But he said, as soon as he came on info Wars, there was no media would have them on in the

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UK that about half the constituents, he would go knock on the door, spreading the UK independence

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they were listeners of ours, that that was the ignited awakened group that then triggered

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into that.

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So you said you set forth some significant change in your...

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Well, according to him.

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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So my proudest achievement is creating a movement that would help support ruining multiple

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countries.

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I love that I read history when I was nine, so that, and now I've toppled fucking Britain,

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you know, normal shit.

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I don't want to brag.

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I don't do things to brag.

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I'm just saying that if it weren't for me, Britain would still be a country.

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Hey, I don't want to brag, but I misread a really stupid book when I was 12 and now I

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have become the Johnny Appleseed founding father of fascist movements around the United...

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Around the United States.

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Around the world.

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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I seem to have a global boner for strong men and authoritarian autocrats.

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What's my proudest achievement?

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First being dumb, second being super confident, third being evil.

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That mixture has led to a lot of good things.

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But honestly, if I were Alex Jones, I would say that my humility is my greatest attribute.

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That's what I'm most proud of.

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I've cultivated this amazing humility.

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Even though he doesn't need to be.

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No, but listen to this.

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Look how humble this man is.

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You never know.

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Even when I was on AXS TV, I got to be friends with Mike Judge and he would show me some

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of the notes.

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He couldn't find the VHS tape.

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I had no idea that King of the Hill was a...

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The idea came from my show and I was on AXS TV in 1995, 96.

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Okay.

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All right.

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Oh, my God.

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Hold on.

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And the weirdness, one of the top TV shows ever, you later become friends with Mike Judge.

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He's like, no, no, actually, here's the notes.

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The three Dales.

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I look at Alex Jones and then the idea of like, he kind of split the character of Hank

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Hill and of the other guy that's a conspiracy theorist with me.

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But the point is...

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So he is both Hank Hill and the other guy.

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Yeah.

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Dale, I think.

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And if it weren't, he is King of the Hill.

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So Mike Judge, heretofore unbeknownst to everyone who's ever talked to Mike Judge ever about

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King of the Hill.

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Through the copious numbers of interviews he's done.

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Millions of interviews he's done.

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Oh, also the people who were involved in the show, because it wasn't a one man operation.

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No, it was just Mike Judge.

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Just Alex Jones.

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Turns out it was all Alex Jones.

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Yeah.

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And he's not saying it to brag.

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No, but he's saying that Hank Hill and this other character are based on him and the entire

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show is based on his show.

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Right.

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Right.

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But he's not saying it to brag.

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It's just saying that you can do great things even when you're on AXS TV.

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I would say that that show, I don't know if my dates are totally right here, but I would

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say it was on, probably premiered 20 years ago, 22 years ago.

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Probably.

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Alex Jones is 44 right now.

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So when he was 22, he was the inspiration for Hank Hill.

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King of the Hill.

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Everybody knows that that balding 50 year old father of two based on Alex Jones, 22

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year old lunatic.

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Well, we all know that before Alex Jones got into public access TV and dumb conservative

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pretending to be libertarian radio, he was an oil man, sell propane.

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He sold propane.

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So stupid.

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Such an idiot.

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So wait, he actually thinks that he's the reason that King of the Hill exists?

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Oh yeah, big time.

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So he spends a long time going over, you know, like back in those days I was such a bad ass

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and the neighborhood I had to drive through to do the, it was bad, it was violent, I got

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carjacked, someone was dead on the street, I don't know about that, but I don't care

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to check into it.

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It's way too much effort.

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So I'm just like, fuck you.

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I'll let you have it.

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You went to a bad neighborhood to do a show.

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We've all done that doing standup, but be that as it may at any rate, Alex talks about

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how he made his first film, America Destroyed by Design, and he did it on bad equipment

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and he ended up flipping it and making a cool half mil off it.

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Not to brag.

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Not to brag.

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Not to brag.

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He made half a million dollars on that and then he turned it around and put it back into

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the business.

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And that's something millennials could never do.

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Never.

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So here is him talking about this and then he accidentally slips and talks a little bit

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too much about the money and Mike has an interesting question for him.

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Now that half million dollars, I didn't go get a house, I didn't go get a new car, I

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put it all back into computers and equipment and employees and I hired four or five people

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and spent all that money that year and paid my taxes and the next year I brought in two

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million dollars until I brought in like 40 million dollars.

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But again, you sell product for 50% off, you bring in 20 million dollars and you pay everybody

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and all of that, I spend most of the money.

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But see, that's just like Amazon.

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That's an evil company.

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Almost never takes profit.

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All they do is dump it back in to be dominant and now they're going profitable.

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They're going to be the most profitable company in the world.

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Does that make sense?

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It does.

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Don't they pay dividends?

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Doesn't their stock pay dividends though?

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Yes.

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And the way they manipulate it, they don't want to pay taxes.

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So they say there's no profit.

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Right.

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When did you get a good accountant?

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You what?

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When did you get a professional accountant?

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I'm not...

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My goal, you have to get to the globalist level where you don't have to pay taxes and

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then they have special accountants that are political.

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I pay a lot of taxes because I'm just a regular guy.

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When I use those numbers like 20 million dollars, that's to run this.

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I'm not doing this to make money.

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Yeah, you are.

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Okay.

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You understand?

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If I was doing it to make money, this is, this is ideological.

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It'd be set up different is what you're saying.

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Well, yeah.

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You do things and then he just does that and then he chucks it down.

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When did you get a professional accountant?

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I pay lots in taxes.

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Why did you just say you pay lots in taxes?

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It makes me think you don't pay any taxes.

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It makes you think you specifically pointed out, but why did you say that?

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Alex?

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You're weird.

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You're acting weird.

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You're acting very suspicious about something that there's no reason to be suspicious about.

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Well, the thing is it was such a, this is how I would talk to you if we weren't on camera.

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I'm starting to tell about all of these accomplishments.

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I made, look, half a million dollars next time, two million dollars.

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Now it's 40.

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Now it's 40.

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I mean, we are a shoestring operation, but I put it all into the, just like Amazon, Amazon

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doesn't have profit.

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That makes sense.

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If he's ever like, like legitimately, if he's ever brought in $40 million through his sales

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in a year, last year he went on record and said that it costs $13 million.

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Well, it was during Megan Kelly's stuff.

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He said it costs $13 million in order to run his operation.

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That is a profit of $27 million.

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Where is that money going if not to Alex Jones and Buckley and the HR department, Alex Jones

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is dead.

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Well, I'm sure it's all going to taxes, right?

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$40 million is probably pretty exaggerated.

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That's how much taxes cost, right?

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Absolutely.

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Yeah.

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I've seen it.

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I saw taxes at Target once.

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Taxes are expensive.

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So expensive.

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You buy one of those little cards and it runs out immediately.

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So he just goes on and on here about how like a lot of radio shows, it's just the host.

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And then they have all their advertisers and then they got like two employees that they

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pay $50,000 a year to run stuff and then they take...

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Why is he getting so much into finances?

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Just because he's trying to deflect from talking about his own.

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He's just talking about like, ah, this is how Rush would do it or something like that.

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Right.

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All right.

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He's trying to present itself like he is some sort of elevator.

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It's not that important.

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Trust me, where we're going, we don't need taxes.

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All right, all right, all right.

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That is a minus one to Dan.

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Turns out nicotine helped my pun work.

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So in this next clip, Alex just lies a bit and then Mike Rotondo is confused.

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I'm not looking at my watch because I don't want to talk to you.

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I wish I wouldn't have gotten here like it's only got 20 minutes left, 25 minutes left.

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And I didn't mean to get in here and start going off on a jag about myself.

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I just wanted you to know that it's easy to call you a bomb like the media calls you.

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It is.

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Uh, but they're the ones promoting that I pay for people to have their genitals cut

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off.

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You know, there have been over, there have been millions of sex changes in this country

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that taxpayers paid for.

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Now I don't have to pay for you getting a nose job, do I?

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I don't think so.

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Should I?

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So he's really confused.

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Maybe he's confused by this, but um, it's really fun to like to look at like the reality

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of what insurance does cover.

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Because if you get rhinoplasty, you can convince doctors that it's not cosmetic.

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It's medically necessary.

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If there's a medical reason that you need it, and then Medicare, Medicaid would cover

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it.

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You know, like there are, the insurances would end up covering it.

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So there are a lot of nose jobs that do end up getting conned into being covered by, by

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healthcare.

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So Alex, you are paying for those nose jobs.

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All right.

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Now, if he wants to talk about-

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Pay for one for yourself, you know what I mean?

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Oh, right.

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All right there.

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That's not a nose, that's a banana.

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Uh, Maurice Chevalier, is that right?

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You can say it.

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Anyway.

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So the, uh, the other thing too is like, uh, gender correcting surgeries are very uncommon.

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The-

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Yeah.

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There, there have not been-

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There haven't been millions.

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I would, I would hazard a guess saying that there haven't been millions performed in the

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world.

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Well, I don't know.

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Cause we're only talking about the United States.

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Right.

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Cause we don't take taxes from, you know, the Philippines or whatever.

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No, I mean, I mean, period.

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Right.

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I don't know.

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I would be very surprised to discover that worldwide there have been millions of these

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performed period.

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Well, I, I don't know and the, the number, the specific numbers are kind of iffy.

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Um, I was reading this one article about how, uh, the gender confirmation surgery is up

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19% in 2016, which makes it seem like that is a lot.

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But-

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No, that's a, that's a tiny amount.

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But if you read the article, less than 0.5% of those procedures involved, uh, any kind

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of genital surgeries, there are, you know, large numbers of, uh, you know, chest surgeries

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that, uh, that are done whether increasing or decreasing, uh, size and what have you.

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But according to this article here in NBC news, and I, I, I will, I will concede that

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the beginning of this article, uh, does say that, um, the, uh, bah, bah, bah, bah, bah.

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The American Society of Plastic Surgeons, uh, has some questions about the data or the

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data was supplied by them and there are some questions about it.

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So it's not the best data, but in terms of specifics, it's about what I was able to find

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and I didn't delete it, didn't delete the articles.

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That means something.

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But anyway, uh, it's saying that only 15 total operations in 2016 were, uh, genital, uh,

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correction surgeries.

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Yeah.

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So the idea of millions of them, the taxpayers are paying for, and we have no idea if there's

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15 were paid for by out of pocket or any event.

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So no clue.

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Yeah.

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It's complete nonsense.

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Alex is just making shit up to be mad at it cause he hates marginalized groups.

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Right.

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We're not done with nose jobs though.

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Cause Alex wants to talk more about that.

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No, I like my nose the way it is.

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No, no, I'm saying you have a nice nose.

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Uh, you have a noble nose.

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Um, people say, why you look at my wife and she's got a big nose and they go, Oh, look,

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she's Jewish.

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All these damn racist.

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And I go, well, she's not Jewish.

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She's actually German, but I like my wife's noble nose.

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I like it.

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I don't want a little bit, a little Barbie nose.

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So that's how that works.

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Uh, but anyways, that's a side issue.

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That's how that works.

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Beauty is in the eye of the beholder.

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My wife's little sweetheart.

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She's like, should I get a nose job?

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When she read these comments and I said, no, baby, we're going to divorce you.

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I like her nose and uh, she says, everything is the, is some people want the helicopter.

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They want the jet.

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They want the biggest mansion.

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What do I want?

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You want to spread what you're, you want to make some change.

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You want to, you know, shake up some things you want to, which is human empowerment.

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And so what is human empowerment?

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Uh, I would say encouragement.

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That's a big part of it, but you also have to go through some pain to get that game.

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Alex is, who is Alex talking to Alex?

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There's somebody behind this kid who is like, I, is he fighting for his life against some

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sort of vicious demon against the wall?

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No.

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What is happening?

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Alex took a couple shots right when he got off air in between this, you know, a couple

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pull pulls of the whiskey and now he's just yelling at a wall about his problems, about

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how his wife wants to get a nose job and they'll divorce her if she does.

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And then he's trying to at the same time, walk this guy down a path because he's trying

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to indoctrinate him to a certain extent.

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Right.

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But I, why do you got to go into the, well, some people say my wife has a big nose, she's

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Jewish, damn racist.

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That's the part.

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She's actually German and it's like, wait, but why have you said she was Jewish in the

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past?

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Why?

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That's Kelly.

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That's his ex-wife.

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Okay.

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This is his new wife with the noble nose.

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Okay.

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He's talked about that before in the past too.

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All right.

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That part of it is him talking to the wall.

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That's him doing his best.

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I was going to say, who is he fucking talking to?

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That's him doing his material to the wall.

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He's just like doing bits.

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He's checked out the, all the rest of it is him just being like, eh, you know, what is

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it?

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What is human empowerment?

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Yeah.

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But don't ask a question like that, but it's much more, that's a, that's such a fucking

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fuck you.

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No, cause it's, he's trying to, he's trying to, uh, I don't, I think it's a question that

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has an answer that only the asker of the question can possibly know and you will never get that

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question right.

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Because the answer is whatever it is you didn't say, wait, wait until this plays out.

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I'm telling you, this is the beginnings of him attempting to be like, now, what do you

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think about this?

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Oh no, that's great.

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But really it's him trying to butter him up.

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And so like, look, there's two things at play beyond him just complaining about his wife's

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nose to the wall, which is one piece of this that is definitely present.

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The other part is him trying to indoctrinate him because he thinks it would be a good get,

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it would be a big get for Infowars for publicity's sake if they get this guy and fix him up,

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get him a haircut, get him on a workout routine, gets big and swole, you know, like this would

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be huge for him.

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Right.

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That'd be great propaganda.

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But then the other side of it, Infowars' version of The Biggest Loser.

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Yeah, I don't remember what the other side of it is, but there's a second piece that's

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at play.

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Um, I don't know, anyway, we'll get to it as it goes along, but here's more talking

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to the wall because Alex, as he's trying to do this dialectical thing where he's like,

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what is human empowerment?

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Well, that's encouraging people.

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Ah, there's more.

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There is also working for it.

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Then he gets lost in thought.

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And this is again,

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Does he have a PowerPoint presentation to go along with this?

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Does he at least have a whiteboard where he's writing down ideas like what and you're good

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at electronics.

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We're going to write electronics on the board.

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What jobs have electronics on the board?

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I remember what the other piece of it was, and I couldn't come up with it because it's

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just so basic and crass.

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It's him just trying to steal a little bit of this guy's shine because he's famous right

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now in heavy air quotes.

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Um, it's, that's the other piece.

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But here there's just this, and he's stealth shitting on him the whole time.

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This is Alex.

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A lot of people say you're a piece of shit.

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There's more of that coming up too.

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This is Alex just talking to the wall though.

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I went and saw Deadpool and Josh Brolin looks like he is, you know, at 3% body fat.

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Now you got to believe he probably went through some real pain to get that game or loss.

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My wife has a crush on Josh Brolin anyways.

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Side issue.

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I met Josh Brolin once and he didn't care anyways.

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He was with Sean Penn who was acting like a complete cock.

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But anyways, my point is, is that we can all pretty much get something we want.

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We can't get everything we want.

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That was your point.

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That was your point.

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That was your point.

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My wife has a crush on Josh Brolin.

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Which is weird because I hate Josh Brolin.

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I saw him once.

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He and Sean Penn was a dick.

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They were dicks to me.

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That's, I mean, this is great.

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This is alcoholic divorce dad taking you fishing.

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No, totally.

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This is totally what that is.

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That's why I said at the beginning of this, it's clear that he's only doing it because

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he didn't get a good run at this the first time.

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He's like, I did not come off as daddy.

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I need to fix that.

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This is bad.

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So here, he talks more about himself and by he, of course, I mean Alex.

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I'm just simply saying there's the adventure of getting out of your parents' nest.

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So I was trying to tell you the story of me, you know, fucking when I was 11.

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When I first started making a marriage for my design, I had a job at a golf course and

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I had a job selling memberships at a gym.

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So those are two jobs that are pretty appropriate for Alex Jones.

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One of them is a con man job in terms of selling gym memberships.

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No, they're very good people.

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No, they usually try and trap you in contracts.

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No, they're great people.

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Then the other one is- They have quotas to reach.

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The other one is working in the place that formerly very not too distant past did not

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allow blacks, Jews, Irish or women.

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Right.

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But he was in Texas, so I'm sure it was- Oh yeah, very open-minded golf course.

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They were allowed to- Country club.

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All kinds of- I mean, no women, but- No, no, no, no.

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And I was working both jobs about 20 hours a week because the golf course was part-time,

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so was the gym.

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None of them wanted to have you as a full-time employee.

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It's a contractor, so you need to get benefits, which is fine.

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So I got up, like I said, with the golf course job at like 5 a.m. to go do that.

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So the times I was in the golf course a few days a week, I couldn't stay up late doing

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video editing.

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So it took me about a year to make the film.

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Yep.

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That's a long story.

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Anyways, I'm just telling you, it wasn't easy.

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Everything wasn't done the way I wanted it to be.

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But when I finally did it, I had this radio show, I had the platform, I thought, why do

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talk show hosts just have a coffee mug and a newsletter?

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Right?

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I'm going to make a film proving what I say about the UN taking over the national parks

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of education in America, and I'm going to show them the proof.

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And the listeners responded.

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That make sense?

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Yeah.

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So do it.

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It's because of what you were talking about before about how you're not doing your production,

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you're doing an ideology.

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Ooh.

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See, now here is where I think as much of a shithead as Michael Rotondo is and the fact

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that he's stalked a woman is unforgivable and he's not an empathetic figure.

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He's still not an idiot.

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Because he has some sort of presence on the spectrum and had some sort of inability to

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understand the social cues.

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He is a good way to be a portal into things Alex said off air that he doesn't realize

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he's not supposed to say back on air.

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So I think that was one of them.

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Yeah.

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I'm pushing an ideology here.

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This isn't really about the truth.

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It's not a production.

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It's an ideology.

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It's not about an operation.

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No, no, no.

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I mean...

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I just push out my ideology.

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It would be fine if you called him on it and he's like, yes, that ideology is 1776 reborn!

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But the way Rotondo is saying that is clearly like, that's the way you phrased it.

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We are ideological.

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Which to me, I mean, that's a problem.

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Means that the things that you say probably come through a filter.

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Anyway, here's where things turn.

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And I'm going to say that a couple times.

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But here's where one of the big turns comes.

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And I think it's Alex trying to be like, I can save you.

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Michael, here's the thing.

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You came off as autistic on television.

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OK.

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And you were telling me that in court, they, when they took your son away from you, not

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for anything bad you did, they were saying that you were basically incompetent?

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That's what you, yeah, that's how you described it before.

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Rude.

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But you were saying that's what they said.

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That's a very reasonable characterization of what happened.

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Yeah.

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Do you mean they said that?

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I don't think you're incompetent.

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And I've seen people like you that if they're given a chance to actually go out and have

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a mission and build on that, then the confidence of having their own apartment, their own car,

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then their own house, their own thing is infectious.

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And then they turn into a whole other person.

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Instead there's a lot of people like you who don't just stay in their parents' house.

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They get recruited by the globalist.

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They get filled with a hateful ideology, then turn against us, and then they unthinkingly

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beaver away to attacking.

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Because you're a smart guy.

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You said a ton of witty stuff live on air today.

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He didn't.

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Yeah.

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Thanks.

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You did not.

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Alex was miserable having him on air.

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This was amazing.

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This...

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So here's Alex's prescription.

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Get out of your parents' house, get a job, become a completely different person.

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Yes, absolutely.

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The right to a passage.

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All of the stuff you are, stop being that person.

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Right, right, right.

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What this is, everybody else is describing as a pile of shit.

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This is bad.

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This, you, what I'm seeing here, everybody is...

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I'm not saying that you're incompetent.

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Everybody else did, and the judge did, so legally.

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I would say that what makes this funny is Alex, but what makes it not funny is the reality

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that like, succeed or fail, Alex is hurting this guy.

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Yeah, oh, absolutely.

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You know, like...

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Absolutely.

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Whether he gets a house or not, it's like you're not dealing with the underlying issue

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that he has a mental illness.

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He needs to be, he needs help.

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It takes a village to raise a 30-year-old, but as long as that village does not have

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Alex anywhere near it.

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Yeah.

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That's fucked up.

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I'm being told from the chat room by Garbage Dick that this is very reminiscent of Jordan

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Peterson style advice.

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Oh, yeah.

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Saving white males and what have you.

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Yep.

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I've not engaged too much with Peterson, so I don't know a lot of his particular quirks.

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He's a piece of shit.

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But it does sound right from what I've heard.

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Now, Jordan, on the last episode, we learned that Mike Rotondo, I'm calling him Mike because

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we're buddies now.

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This is the second episode we've done about him, I feel like we're close.

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We learned that he's running a business.

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Yes.

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So we never knew...

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We saw that he had a business.

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We don't know what that business...

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His other business was law.

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Law, certainly.

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We don't know what that business is.

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He never made it clear.

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And luckily on this episode, we find out.

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So what do you want to do with your life?

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Well, I kind of want to run my business.

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I want to...

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And what is your business?

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I don't want to connect the two things.

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I don't want to bring...

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But see, if you're on air with somebody, you don't have to get into your specifics.

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Yeah.

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I don't have the infrastructure to support the kind of thing that...

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If I mention it on air, I describe it on air.

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So then you have to build another company that is in reality to then take the money

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to do the experimental thing.

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You can't always go to the...

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You can't...

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Can I be clear?

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I didn't cut there.

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That is a sentence that he said.

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That doesn't make any sense.

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I think what he's trying to say is if this is your passion project, then you've got to

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make another business to pay for this passion project.

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I think that's what he's saying.

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If that's what he's trying to say, I get it, but he's not saying that well.

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No, he's not doing that well.

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So anyway, let's see where this goes.

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You can't go to a 12th grade in the first grade.

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But that's why I don't want to mention it.

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That's why I don't want to talk about it.

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Well, no, but you kind of hinted at it.

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It's like legal advice?

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No.

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You're saying you're working on legal stuff?

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It's my own legal stuff.

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It takes hours and hours and hours.

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You have to say what your ideas are.

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Nobody's trying to steal them.

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You're trying to understand this.

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What is the just go past the fear, go past the never getting here.

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What is the thing?

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What is the business in a generality?

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Tech.

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Information technology.

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Okay.

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Okay.

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And there are a lot of guys like you who aren't stupid, but are kind of quirky, who have tech

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ideas.

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So, I mean, in general, what's the tech idea?

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It's not really an idea.

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It's just an idea.

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It's an ideology.

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Sure.

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And so what is the ideology?

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That the stuff that you get from me works.

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Oh, really?

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Yep.

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It's like apps or what do you mean?

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What is it?

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Whatever it is that I offer, that if you come to me and I can offer it to you and we go

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through with it, that it'll work.

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I know, but sometimes you have to work with the tools you've got.

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This is a bad business model.

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This is bad.

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This is the business.

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I mean, he doesn't want, no, no, no.

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He doesn't want to say what the business is.

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No, no, maybe.

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But I think he's been worn down enough to be like, there's nothing.

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Whatever it is I'm doing, I'll do it well.

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I'll help you with technology and I'll do it well.

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I think that's what he's saying because the IT stuff is like, I'll fix stuff.

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I'll fix your machines and your tech issues, but I'll do this.

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I don't know.

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But whatever it is, it's like if I were on Shark Tank, I'd be like, bro, go.

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I'm not buying in.

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Based on that, what are you going to do?

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That's not a solid pitch.

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You're Mark Cuban.

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That's not a solid pitch.

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You're Mark Cuban.

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You hear that.

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It's not so much an IT thing.

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It's an ideology.

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If you get it from me, it's going to work.

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Right.

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What do you say?

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You, sir, are dead on.

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I want you to run my department of dreams and wishes.

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What's your five year plan, bro?

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To give people what they want.

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Wait, now I'm asking Mark Cuban what his five year plan is?

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This is no good.

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So Alex at this point gets into a metaphor that he's misusing.

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That's what I'm telling you is you've got to play with the cards you're dealt, man.

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And if you win at the lower cards, then you get the bigger cards.

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You don't go here automatically.

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That's not what that metaphor means.

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So in poker, the expression, you have to play with the cards you're dealt means that you

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have to accept the situation in front of you as it is.

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So if you've dealt like a two six or something like that, that's a shitty hand.

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You can't build much off that unless you get super lucky and three sixes pop out on the

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board.

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Then you've got the best hand ever, but you can't control that.

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So what you do is you play with the cards you're dealt and you decide, am I going to

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sit this one out and wait for a better opportunity or are you going to bluff it and pretend that

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you have pocket aces?

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You know what I'm saying?

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That's what the metaphor means.

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That's what that aphorism means.

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It's not like you got to play with bad cards, then do well and you'll get aces.

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That's not what it means.

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That's a lunatic.

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No, no.

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He's framing poker as the classic American dream.

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All right.

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It's about, it's about pulling yourself up by your bootstraps.

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Now I know everybody knows that when you go to a casino, if they see that you've got bad

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cards and you win, they're like, hold on, we got to get you out of here.

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We got to get you into the card of the casino where you get the good cards where everybody

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gets aces over here.

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I know that, uh, I know that Kings and aces and Queens, they're all gated behind experience

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barriers.

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You have to earn the right to an ace.

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It's ridiculous.

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I know that's a little tiny thing, but like, no, if you can't understand or use a fucking

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metaphor, stop using them.

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No, I understand.

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Look, this is the thing that blows my mind is like we can, most of this episode is largely

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going to be us listening to Mike Rotondo and it being confused, right?

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Like not understanding what Alex is trying to sit down on the table.

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Right.

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And it's fun to be like, now, hold on, there's a bunch of times when Alex is in the wrong

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too.

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He might not understand him cause Alex is talking shit.

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He's insane.

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Yeah.

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So, Oh boy, here's a, here's where everything turns.

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In life, you've got to choose basic steps.

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Sure.

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And then you've got to try those steps.

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And if you fail, it doesn't matter because you're going to learn in the process.

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And just cause you meet bad people on the way, it doesn't mean everybody's bad, right?

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The bad people.

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That's how racism happens.

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Like if you're a black person, you run into some racist white people, you think your whole

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life, everybody who's white is racist.

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Or if you're somebody like me, I grew up in Dallas.

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So I had black friends when I was younger were nice.

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Then I ran to black racist that attacked me.

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I didn't blame all black people because I thought it was just people, good people, bad

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people, but see other people, if they don't have enough experiences, if they don't have

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the good experience versus the bad experience, they don't understand there's different things

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out there.

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You know what I've encountered?

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I've encountered, um, black people who will not discuss racism because they do not believe

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that people who are not black, uh, can understand it.

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And that's, and it's fine if people who aren't black can't understand it, but I think that

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not sharing it is the wrong approach.

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I've asked you, I've asked African American, but listen, the thing is real, but it's projected.

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We have the government documents to make it worse.

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It's amplified to just divert everybody from everything else that's happening in like the

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media or, or just 5g is going to kill a billion people in the next 20 years from cancer.

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Tell me how the goddamn racism is important.

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Wow.

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Wow.

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This is ostensibly a supportive conversation with Alex Jones.

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I don't, I, because we have listened to Alex Jones for the past year and a half, I understand

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what he's saying and where it fits in with his brain.

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If I did not, if I had no context for this, this kid barely knows what Brexit, I know

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this guy is a madman.

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This is a fucking madman shouting.

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Also he's, and even then, like if you were around white races all the time, you'd think

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all white people are racist.

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And if you were around black races, I had black friends, I had white friends and then

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I met black races and I didn't think all black people were better, which means by extension,

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I am better than everybody else who thinks about white racist and I can't possibly be

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one of them.

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Yeah.

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God, what a fucking idiot.

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That's some shit that he's convinced himself.

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Oh, undoubtedly.

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That is some shit that he really believes is true, even though it doesn't make a goddamn

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bit of sense.

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No.

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Um, and so I looked into the, I wanted to, I don't understand exactly where there's billions

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of people who are going to be killed by 5G.

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3 billion.

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3 billion.

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And that's why racism isn't important.

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So there's a couple of things that I found that were particularly interesting to me.

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And one of them is that whenever he talks about this story, he mentions, um, uh, an

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article or he flashes up on the screen and article from Wired magazine and the headline

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from this Wired magazine article, uh, that they always flash up and he never reads and

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they never go over much is in big, bold letters, 5G smartphones cause cancer.

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Big wireless.

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Doesn't want you to know.

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Of course not.

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Now, if you read down the, uh, the actual article, it starts quote, I've been waiting

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and waiting for this particular form of a popular fear to surface again.

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Oh no.

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Okay.

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All right.

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So we're already done.

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Yep.

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Already done.

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Yep.

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Okay.

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From the first sentence of the article, everybody who thinks this is fucking stupid.

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Well, it's just like, we've seen this before.

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It happens every time.

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Every time we've got our first one, we got, let's put a little mark on the board.

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So then there's another, there's a study, a study that was written up in the LA times

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about a slight increase in cancers in rats.

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Uh, they were exposed to 5g, uh, radiation, um, and uh, it's a very slight increase.

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Sure.

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Uh, and uh, the, what I would take away from this article is this quote, I don't think

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it's clear that there are health risks, but it's also not clear that there are no health

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risks.

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It says Lika Kieffitz, an epidemiology professor at UCLA's Fielding School on Public Health

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who has studied the health effects of cell phone use.

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So I don't-

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Noted expert says, shrug maybe?

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Right.

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So who cares about racism?

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Could be, could not be.

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Who cares about racism?

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So let's not worry about racism.

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Who cares about the goddamn racism?

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Well it's, we could be cancer.

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Right.

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Or it could not be.

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There might be slight-

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There could be other variables.

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There might be slight increases in cancer, but if you're, Alex, barbecues.

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Get rid of them.

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Get rid of every barbecue in America, because they-

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How dare you.

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They're carcinogenic.

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How dare you.

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Burning charcoal briquettes is carcinogenic.

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Like regulate on that level if you want-

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Uh-uh.

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Bring the coal bag jobs.

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You don't understand like what is really like at stake, not at stake, but the advantages

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that could be had with-

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Not at a barbecue.

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Nah.

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Eh.

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Strip stake.

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You don't understand what's at strip stake with 5G, because it's not just things getting

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much faster and like being able, like the, you know, Wi-Fi speeds increasing or what

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have you.

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Right.

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It's like processing speeds would go up too, and the ability to do all these things that

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are impossible to do now with battery lives and shit like that.

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It wouldn't strain your devices so heavily.

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There's all kinds of applications for the ability to work anywhere and stuff like that.

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Right.

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And that's why you shouldn't worry about climate change.

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And that's even-

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Because it's already given you cancer.

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And that's even with like my small-minded approach to it.

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I don't even understand all of the applications, but the few that I can come up with are super

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exciting.

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And, I don't know, maybe there are studies that show a slight increase in cancers and

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rats.

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I'm fine with that.

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I think that they also need to do more studies.

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I'm fine with that.

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Get definitive on it.

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Nah.

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Now at this point-

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Somebody did a study that said maybe, or maybe not good enough for me, cancel the whole thing.

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Well Alex is just-

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Put the kibosh on it, Dan.

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What we're at right-

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Let's get back to focusing on racism, alright?

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We can't have 5G until we fix racism, Dan.

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Well, Alex just would love any excuse not to work on racism.

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Well that's because he's-

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He's not racist.

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He's had experiences on both sides, so he's better than everybody else who believes in

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racism.

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At this point, Alex tries to scare Mike a little bit.

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It's really funny because Mike isn't that worried about 5G.

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5G is going to kill a billion people.

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It's estimated.

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Okay.

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Cool.

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Does it matter what color your skin is?

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It's not that the race crap isn't going on.

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It's in the WikiLeaks that they project all the race stuff because that's how we're designed.

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We see each other and what color we are.

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We don't see radiation blasting through things, man.

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But the globalists do.

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Do you understand?

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Right.

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Do you understand there is a scientific consciousness that is completely cold-blooded beyond anything

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you can imagine that is preying on you?

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And so as a man, you need to gut up and learn what that is and take the threat that's there

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and stop thinking by protecting yourself in a bubble and being real slow about everything

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you're going to do anything.

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You're not.

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You're dying.

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You're dying.

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You're dying.

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I would personally think that the racism is more important than the 5G thing because if

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we die sooner from cancer, does it matter if we die sooner or does it matter that we

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lead good lives without hatred?

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This is the scrambled spiritualism I'm talking about.

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This is the scrambled spiritual- Oh yeah, lived good lives, whatever.

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Right.

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You were good to other people.

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You aspired for a humanistic existence.

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This has such the ring of like Alex saw his son in the bathroom one time and he's like,

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oh my God, I think my son might be gay.

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So he's taking it all out on this kid right here.

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There's some of it.

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This is such a, I don't know if he's going to be gay.

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I don't know if he's gay.

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I don't know what I'm going to do.

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Hold onto those thoughts for a little bit because gayness does come up.

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Of course it does.

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Of course it does.

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But I want to say that clip right there gives a little bit of an amuse-bouche of things

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to come.

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Just a little taste of some of the stuff that Alex is going to try and drop on him because

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he's not buying into this.

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No, of course not.

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He probably does want a job, but he doesn't understand Alex's worldview.

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And he's like, yeah, I don't know.

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I don't know, but I don't think that's all that.

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And later I believe he even says like, I don't think it's going to kill people.

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I don't, I don't, I don't believe that Alex is really getting mad because it's like, can't

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you see I'm trying to be your dad?

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And Alex has already established that like either I'm going to save you or the globalists

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are going to get you.

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Right, right.

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Stakes are high.

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Stakes are high.

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If Alex doesn't succeed, then the globalists win in Alex's mind.

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So boy, here's a, this is the, this is the worst Scientology auditing session that they

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have ever done.

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Like the, like L Ron Hubbard is sitting there like, how do we crack this kid?

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Now hear me out on this.

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Yeah, it's a damn good thing that racism isn't important.

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It's not a big deal.

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It's not a big deal.

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And thank God because otherwise this clip would suck.

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Do you understand that they're killing millions of Buddhists every year and Christians song

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their organs?

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I'm talking about the Chinese.

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I don't, I did not know that, but see, there's not this psychological fun because it's Asians

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killing Asians.

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So it's not as sexy as Oprah Winfrey and roots.

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Okay.

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Some dumb ass black guy, a bullwhip beaten by people.

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Do you understand that the industrial level human cloning is going on?

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I did not understand that

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Asians killing Asians is not sexy.

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Like Oprah Winfrey being in roots, which features a dumb black guy with a bullwhip.

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Yep.

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Also, did you know that there's that

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That brilliant mind could come up with three so unbelievably disconnected things and somehow

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weave them together in a basket of bullshit.

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He has a pretty spectacular skill that is

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Gotta give him that.

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That's unusable in any other context.

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No, none.

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None.

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It's amazing.

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If Alex didn't do this, what would he do?

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Poetry readings?

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I don't know.

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Get kicked out of his parents' house at 30.

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That might be it.

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That might be it.

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No shit.

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That might be it.

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No shit.

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I just, I didn't want to make it too clear, but I accidentally just did.

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I know.

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I fucked up.

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Come on, man.

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Oh, well.

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You'd never make the subtext text.

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God damn it, Dan.

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I know.

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I blew our own game.

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So in this next clip, we get back talking, still in the same conversation, a little bit

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more about 5G.

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Could I have some water?

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Yeah, we'll get you some water.

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We'll get you some water.

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Let's go to the shot over here.

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I'm not belittling.

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Let's go to the watch.

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Yeah.

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I'm not here, brother.

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I'm not belittling anybody's problems.

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But if 5G is killing us, we should ban it.

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Instead of saying, what does it matter if we've had good lives?

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Or is 5G like a new life form to you, a new thing?

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You act like it was a girl, like it's a friend.

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Like 5G is already massively increasing brain tumors and already killing people in every

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lab study.

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So what I'm asking, so wait, wait, wait.

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If it kills us, it doesn't matter as long as we're loving.

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I don't, you could say, I would, yeah, that's kind of what I'm saying, but it's a, it's

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a little, no, no.

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I see what you're saying.

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It's very ethereal.

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Yeah.

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What is something neutral that kills us?

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Doesn't matter.

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But the human passion of people disliking each other for what color they are, that's

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paramount.

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I don't think it's going to kill us as, as, uh, I don't think we need it either.

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The 5G because realistically the, the infrastructure that we have, uh, available to us, well, they're

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putting it in ubiquitously.

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Let me ask you this.

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What do you eat today?

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Okay.

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All right.

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Interesting.

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Good, good change.

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Interesting.

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Good change.

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This guy has, hard right turn.

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This, this guy like is in there and he's like, I don't think it's going to kill us.

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What do you eat?

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And honestly, I don't think, but what do you eat?

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Would you believe?

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What are you eating, Dan?

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Would you believe that that question is really not so much about finding out what he eats?

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Oh no.

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Also, also, hold on real quick.

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By the way, um, if 5G is killing us, then we should ban it.

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Cigarettes, guns, uh, alcohol, uh, cars.

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What else you got?

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I mean, cars aren't killing us necessarily, but cigarettes certainly are.

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Oil.

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Alcohol.

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Uh, uh, oil, fracking, fracking, uh, all of the, uh, fucking everything they're doing

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in Flint.

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They're doing chemicals, putting them in the, in the water.

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Oh sure.

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You should regulate businesses.

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The EPA, they're doing fuck all right now.

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Right.

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So, um, if Alex believes that if blank is killing us, then blank.

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No, that's a fundamental problem of his philosophy because it's a counter example to everything.

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It's if, if the standard to ban something is that it kills people, uh, then, I mean,

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he would probably make the argument that this is going to kill everybody.

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Sure.

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It's not like, so with cigarettes, you have a choice whether or not to engage with that.

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Whereas with this, it's just going to be in the air and again, there's climate change.

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Also, there is just air pollution, uh, you know, standards that should be in place in

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terms of breathable air.

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Businesses putting things in the water.

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Right.

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So again, it all does come down to, Alex is accidentally arguing for regulation, but,

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uh, here's what he wants to know about.

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No, he's not accidentally arguing for regulation.

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He is for regulation so long as it isn't real or get in his way.

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That's true.

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And yeah, it doesn't, it doesn't help.

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Uh, yeah.

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And it doesn't help anybody else.

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Yeah.

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Um, but he doesn't really care about Mike's diet.

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I regret to inform you.

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Oh, what do you eat?

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I eat, um, uh, a lot of beef, beef, beef.

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So I don't, I try to eat vegetables and I do, well, you, you, you, you don't look unhealthy.

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I do a lot of unhealthy things, but I'm going to give you some things.

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There's also a plug here.

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I'm going to give you, is it alpha, which I had them set out for the body and mind formula,

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the strongest, uh, endocrine type booster that we can come up with safely.

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So I'm going to, I want you to man up here without a prescription, but we're not calling

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a drug.

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We're not calling a drug.

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Right.

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I guess this is mother nature.

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Okay.

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Go ahead and take them.

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Thank you.

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And then they couldn't find a new bottle around here.

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This one I was taking in my office, but I'm gonna take it a few days.

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This is X two.

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Okay.

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This is deep earth crystal ion.

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Okay.

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The good halogen.

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So he gives him a half used bottle of X two cause they couldn't find any more around the

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office.

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X two.

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It's one of those that's liquid that comes with a dropper and Alex has on many occasions

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on his show, just dropped it into his mouth.

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So we know that's kind of his behavior.

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He's given this dude a bottle of X two that he's been using.

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He's probably lick that goddamn thing crazy.

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This is gross.

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It's real gross.

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This is really gross.

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This is gross on so many, there's so many gross things happening right now.

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There are philosophically gross things.

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There are emotionally gross things.

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Now there are physically gross things.

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I think that's the last physically gross thing.

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Although accidentally Alex admits something that he's denied a whole bunch in the past.

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And I'm serious.

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I want to have you back on.

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If you've taken these, I want your real response.

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I saw some remote stuff.

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They said his super male didn't grow my hair back.

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We don't say it does that.

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In fact, it might make it fall out.

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But did you catch what he said there at the end?

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That's what testosterone does.

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He's basically admitting this is a testosterone or at very least is something that's synthetically

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designed in order to make you release more testosterone, which is the same fucking thing

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as it being a testosterone supplement.

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That's great.

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That is great.

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So he's plugging, he's plugging his products.

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He's not doing a good job of it.

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No.

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Hey, you want to be bald?

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Hey, it didn't grow my hair back.

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Well, yeah, of course it didn't.

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We don't say it does.

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Also probably made it fall out more.

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I don't fucking know.

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How's your newly small dick going to?

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How them balls?

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He's getting his supplement push in, in the form of like, this will help you.

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But then he, boy, I'll tell you what, I don't know if it's right or wrong, but he treats

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this dude like a child.

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And the natural conclusion of that is he has to assign him a book report.

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Okay.

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The Killing of Uncle Sam.

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This is one of the best history books currently written that is working with some top guys

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from the CIA and pastor Rodney Howard Brown.

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So you know, you're going to read, understand how the world really works.

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This is ultra accurate.

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Okay.

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So we sell it in for store.com, but I want to challenge you.

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Will you read this book and come on and tell me what you thought?

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How long do I have to read it?

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Well, it's not YouTube.

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It's not the internet.

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It doesn't flicker beautifully.

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You got to actually turn the pages yourself.

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But if you do it by candlelight, it could have that effect.

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I'm asking you, will you read this book?

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I will read it.

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If you, if you give me enough time to read it, I, uh, how long does that take?

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How many pages is it?

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I mean, I read it in about a week and a half, only reading like 20 minutes a night.

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So it's like, you know, 300, 400 pages.

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And three weeks.

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Absolutely.

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We'll have you back on the show.

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All right.

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All right.

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Now I want to say, I know that this is already way too late in terms of our discussion in

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our episode.

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I am going to allow a possibility that this is all trolling.

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You know what I'm saying?

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Right.

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This is a guy doing a character or something like that.

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He got some actors to play his parents and sue him or something.

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I don't know.

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I don't know how it would work and how they'd trick the courts and how there would be a

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eight year old stocking conviction.

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But like I'm allowing some possibility that this guy is just deep fucking Alex, just fucking

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with him so hard because the way he is like, eh, how long do I have to read it?

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That's brilliant comedic timing or it is somebody who is on the spectrum in some way.

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It's one of the two and we don't want to deal with the, uh, the reality probably that he

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is a man in deep, deep pain, but that, Oh, the timing on that gorgeous.

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Will you come back?

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How long do I have to read it?

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Uh, all of it.

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Um, deflated.

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So I want to tell you about this guy who wrote this book, Rodney Howard Brown, Rodney Howard

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Brown, the priest wrote the killing, uh, killing of uncle Sam.

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Um, this guy, old man.

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Oh man.

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All right.

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He's a mess.

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He's a hero.

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Oh no, he is not the hero of this story.

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He's the third guy who is not one of the heroes.

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Okay.

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So he has a doctorate in ministry from a correspondent school called the school of Bible theology

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correspondence school, a religious correspondence school is a diploma mill.

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You just pay for a degree and get a piece of paper.

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Uh, Rodney and his wife, a Danica were top level, uh, ranked distributors for an acai

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berry juice, multi-level marketing scam called Manavi until they went belly up in 2014.

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He was so involved in Manavi that, uh, he was named in a lawsuit against the company

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for fraudulently claiming their projects, uh, products contained a proprietary fatty

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acid called, uh, celadrin Manavi got sued by Oprah and dr Oz for fraudulently claiming

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that they endorsed their acai products.

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They got sued a whole bunch, then ended up going out of business in 2014 when they defaulted

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on a $182 million loan note that was to secure their assets, which is pretty much how most

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pyramid schemes and multi-level marketing scams go belly up.

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Everyone down on the ground floor gets nothing.

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Everyone at the top has already secured, uh, whatever they've stolen somewhere else in

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a Swiss bank account or some shit.

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So that's what happens here.

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He was a top level, uh, distributor probably using his religious flocks could be help move

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some of his acai berries could be a little bit.

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So in June, uh, I'm sorry, in July, 2017, Rodney was one of the preachers who visited

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the white house to pray and lay hands, to pray and lay hands on Trump.

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What did you just say?

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This guy, he got really crazy about this.

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Like he went nuts.

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Wait, what did you just say?

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He went and prayed on Trump and they had, it was like, remember that picture that came

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out?

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There's a bunch of ministers laying hands on him.

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Yeah.

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But how did, how did we go from the, the acai multi-level marketing scam to there?

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Cause it's all related.

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How did they, how did we get from one debate?

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People who are involved in one con aren't involved in just one.

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It's the same thing with like Alex Jones has his political con and then he's got his deep

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earth iodine con.

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That's true.

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So, uh, he went, he went to the, he prayed over Trump.

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Sure.

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And then I watched this video, I watched the video of him talking about it.

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He got really nuts.

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Uh, quote, there is a planned attack on our president and that's all I can tell you about

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right now.

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I know what I'm talking about.

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I've spoken to high ranking people in the government and this is being planned by people

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that hate God, hate America, hate our president.

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And we have to stop this in Jesus name.

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Some of you might not understand.

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Some of you might not understand that.

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You might think we're crazy, but I'll tell you, if you knew what I knew, then you'd understand

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the urgency of the hour.

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There's a fight for the soul of the Republic and God had raised president Donald Trump

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to be the trumpet that's going to sound in this hour.

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That sounds like Alex.

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It sounds exactly like Alex.

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Now, this guy is Reverend Alex.

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I am a very tolerant man.

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People have widely discussed my ability to deal with things that I find abhorrent.

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But were we to cement some sort of actual democratic republic in the United States sometime

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in the future?

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Perhaps it will happen, has not happened yet.

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Before we do that, like right before, can we behead people like this dude?

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Maybe.

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I don't know.

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Like right before, like after the revolution, we're about to set up the government.

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We take a break.

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We take like a six month.

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Let's clear the queue break.

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I can't.

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Let's just get everybody along.

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Get a big line.

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I can't believe like these aren't involved.

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You know, just a long line of white people.

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Just a long line of white people.

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I can't believe you're here now.

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All we know so far is that he's involved with an Asahi scam.

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He prayed with Trump.

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Done.

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He's lying about some sort of a conspiracy against Trump.

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Three for three.

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Okay, so anyway, also.

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The queue is going to be a long one, Dan.

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He also believes in blood libel and pizza games.

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From a sermon that he delivered on October 15th, 2017.

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Shouldn't be allowed to talk about pizza during sermons.

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They sacrifice children at the highest levels in Hollywood.

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They drink blood of young kids.

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This is a fact.

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You remember when all the spirit cooking thing came out?

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That's commonplace, ladies and gentlemen.

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Most of the Hollywood actors you go see on screen, what you don't know, they bring a

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witch.

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They get a witch.

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Personal witch?

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Or like communal witch?

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Family style witch.

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They get a witch.

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An old country buffet style witch.

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They get a witch.

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They do a big seance right there on set and then they worship devils and they allow devils

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to come into them before they take the part of what they're going to act.

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It's a fact.

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It's a fact.

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Wait, what?

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He just doesn't understand acting?

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Yeah.

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That's it?

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It's a fact.

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That's the whole thing?

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It's a fact what I'm telling you.

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That's a quote.

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Now I'm reading this and it's hilarious, but what I should tell you is I watched the sermon.

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This is from a sermon.

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He's walking around in front of a congregation.

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Now granted, it's like, you know, some sort of nouveau mega church type setting.

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Why?

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That many people?

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It's more than you'd want there, but it's not giant.

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It's not like Creflo Dollar or like Joel Osteen.

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It's not that big.

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Oh, he's in the queue too.

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Oh yeah.

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It's big.

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It's big.

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But it's crazy that this is being said in the context of a Sunday sermon.

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It makes me very uncomfortable.

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I hate this rhetoric wherever it exists.

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The idea of my enemies drink children's blood and shit like that.

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That's fucking absurd.

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I hate, I hate hearing it, but man, it's jarring to see it in a church.

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It's fucked up.

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It's not great.

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It's really a place where that shit should not be happening.

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I mean, the thing is, this is, that's nothing to me.

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Like when my family, when I was coming up, when I was coming up, man, my family went

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from, no, this is after the cult.

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This is after my family left the cult.

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And they were all about, they kept trying to find their cult.

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You're going to gravitate towards other fucked up places.

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They went to so many basement churches with the chairs that are made of, oh man, some

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weird shit.

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They drink children's blood.

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Weird shit.

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So anyway, let me get through the rest of this about Howard Brown or Rodney Brown.

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You know Alex's like weird paranoid fantasies where he's like, they take you down to the

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basement, they cover you.

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That was what I was raised on.

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That's your church.

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Like six years old, that is, I got a main line of that kind of shit.

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So it makes sense why you can put up with the show now.

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Yep.

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So Rodney Howard Brown has also been an Infowars guest.

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He was on on March 19th, 2018, and when he was on, he described his and Trump's enemies

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as quote, globalist gremlins.

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So he's on board.

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I like the alliteration.

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He's on board.

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I like it.

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Also, side note.

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That's got some dirty dossier to it right there.

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Globalist gremlins?

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Yeah, yeah.

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Yeah.

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Rodney is from South Africa.

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White?

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Yeah.

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Oh yeah, white.

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Oh yeah, white.

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He moved to America in 1987.

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No, that's not the time to be a white person running away from South Africa without me

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thinking you're a white person running away from South Africa.

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It's probably a coincidence, seeing as around 1986.

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Oh, I can't be as racist as I used to be here.

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Yeah, yeah.

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I'll go back to America where it's better.

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You know, in 1986, 1987, the ANC was committing, I believe it's something to the tune of like

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it's 200, 400, 200 to 400.

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It's a lot.

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It's a lot.

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There's anti-apartheid attacks in those two years, there's massive global support growing

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for the free Nelson Mandela movement, like anti-apartheid is taking over in terms of

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the country.

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It's becoming clear in around 87, a little bit later too, that it's not going to work

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for these white people, and apartheid was on its way out.

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The idea that this guy, who's clearly a con man based on his acai and religion related

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behaviors, was a preacher in South Africa who left in 1987 with his family to flee to

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America, makes me think that he was up to some shit.

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I can't see any reason.

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Makes me think he was up to some shit.

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The timeline doesn't match up.

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Yeah.

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You keep doing that.

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I don't believe in time.

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Yeah, apparently.

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Oh, hold on to that.

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Alex doesn't either.

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That just...

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Alex doesn't either.

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Okay.

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So that's one of the books that Alex wants him to read.

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Here's the other one.

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Do I got to read that one too?

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It's not got to.

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In the three weeks?

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It's get to.

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No, no, no.

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This book...

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This is the worst.

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This is a very important book.

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I don't want to come back and not have done my homework.

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You're not coming back.

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Let's do three weeks.

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You come on about this book?

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Yeah.

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Uncle Sam?

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And then you heard of this guy, Roger Stone?

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The name's familiar.

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Oh, boy.

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He doesn't know who Roger Stone is.

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Alex at that moment is personally offended.

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You don't know who Roger Stone is?

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You don't know...

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I've thrown my life away for this guy, and you don't even know who he is?

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You son of a bitch.

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So Alex has to explain who Roger Stone is, and this explanation is not good.

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The name's familiar.

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Well, he's Trump's former wingman.

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Okay.

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Do you know what a wingman is?

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Yeah.

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What's a wingman?

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Kind of like a tactical support type thing.

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Yeah, there's no Russians, there's just women.

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I would still describe it as a tactical support, but okay.

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Well, no, no.

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Gay guys have beards.

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Have you heard of that?

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No, I haven't.

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A lot of gay guys, they'll have a woman they're married to that they're really gay.

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Oh.

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Okay.

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Trump's not gay.

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Okay.

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But Roger Stone has been his wingman for 47 years, off and on.

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What's a wingman?

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Well, you described it as having someone who helps you with women.

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That's right.

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Okay.

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So you might want to read what Donald Trump's wingman has to say.

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Okay.

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Now there's that for you right there.

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Whoa, that was so uncomfortable.

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Because that's like, hey, look, Donald Trump isn't gay.

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What's a wingman?

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Say it.

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Say it.

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Say he's not gay.

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There's that tone that's like, say it, you son of a bitch.

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You say it and you don't tell anyone what you saw here.

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I think we just got cornered in the locker room shower?

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Yes.

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Is that what just happened right there?

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It felt so dirty.

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It felt so dirty.

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What the fuck?

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Does he not know he's broadcasting this?

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You know what, though?

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Hey, hey, hey.

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Hold on.

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Roger.

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Look, Roger Stone is his wingman.

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There wasn't anything to do with Russia.

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He was just having extramarital fares all the time that Roger gave him cover for.

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Come on.

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What's a wingman?

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It's a guy who helps you cheat on your wife.

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Alex has said that stuff before.

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Trump didn't do that.

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He said that stuff before, about him being his wingman.

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Right, right, right.

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There's only two ways you can really interpret that.

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One is that Roger's a pimp or something like that.

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Oh, that's possible.

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And that he's just-

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Oh, Roger's definitely a pimp.

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Why didn't we know-

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No, he's a swinger.

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No, he knew he was a pimp.

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He's a swinger.

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Look at the way he dresses.

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Yeah, he's fancy.

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He's got a cane.

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Man's got a cane.

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The other alternative is that he's cheating on his wife, and the way he gets around it

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is that the woman pretends to be with Roger, and then it makes sense why he's hanging out

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with Roger.

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Yep.

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Or why he's hanging out with this woman.

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But be that as it may, the way that-

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And it's also clear that Roger Stone explained to Alex what it meant, because Alex keeps

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bringing up the beard analogy, which does not make sense.

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No, it doesn't.

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It's not a correlation at all.

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No, Roger's like, nah, nah, you know what a beard is, like that kind of thing.

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Right.

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The other thing that I need to really make clear is that when we started this, there

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were two people in this room.

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Not you and I, in that room.

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One of them is a mentally ill person who's stalked a lady and is on the show as a novelty.

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Right.

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The other guy wants to be his daddy.

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Right.

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And now, as we've gotten through it, I believe-

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I still have a hard time believing that this isn't like a terrible SNL sketch.

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Hold on, hold on.

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This is a terrible long-form SNL sketch.

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I need to make my point.

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As we've gotten to this point now, I think that clip represents the point at which, who's

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crazy in this room shifts, and now Michael Rotonda still needs help.

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He still is a person who's in trouble.

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But now, Alex is more crazy than him, and is going to continue for the rest of this.

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How is this still going on?

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We're about halfway done.

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What?

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This is so tragic.

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What are you talking about?

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We're more than halfway done.

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Jesus Christ, man.

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There's a lot here.

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I will say this.

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Don't get scared.

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The last clip, I couldn't make a cut in it.

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It's five minutes long.

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Jesus Christ, Dan.

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It's worth it.

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You're an insane person.

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I think we've seen the biggest shift.

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In this next clip, Alex discusses more wingman stuff, and then he gets a little bit conflicted

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about whether or not he cares about Roger.

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You want to get in that world where there's wingman.

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Can you imagine being part of that?

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Don't you want to be a wingman?

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Don't you want to fuck?

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Is there a guy that's your wingman?

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I would say that common interests can come and go as the concerns come and go.

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You can have long-lasting support from people who have common interests in you.

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Sure, sure.

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I'm just frustrated that everybody thinks that Roger Stone knows stuff about Russians.

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There's nothing.

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Or that Roger, they're trying to indict him for financial stuff that's made up.

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I thought we were talking about everybody fucking.

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Because they're so freaking stupid what Roger Stone is not as a political advisor to Trump,

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what he is.

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I already knew from other sources, and I went and looked, the New York Times knew 30 years

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ago who Roger Stone was to Trump.

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So I'm not giving out anything secret or any confidence.

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I'm just saying, you might want to read, the book should read Donald Trump's wingman, then

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it would be a bestseller.

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It doesn't really get into that, but it is how to win it, politics, business, and style

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to Roger Stone and footwearstore.com.

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But you'll probably buy it at Amazon, because it's a dollar cheaper, he gets $1.50 for every

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order you do a taxpayer money.

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So screw yourself, go to Amazon and buy it.

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I don't care where you buy it, because it supports Roger.

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But brother, here's the deal.

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Yes, please tell me what the deal is.

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Please get to the deal.

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I need to know what the fuck the deal is.

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I have no idea what's going on here.

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Trying to call me brother?

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So yeah, I think that there's a little bit of weird conflicted anger that Roger isn't

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selling the book exclusively on InfoWars.

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Yeah, what the fuck?

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I think he's pissed off about that.

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And then also, I don't know about using the second person there.

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He's clearly in a conversation with this guy who's sitting across the table from him.

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He's giving him a copy of the book, and he's like, you're probably gonna go buy it on Amazon

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because it's a dollar cheaper.

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Go fuck yourself.

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Yep.

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Like what?

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Why are you doing that?

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It's a simultaneous plug and love.

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So Alex is like...

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Tough love, tough plug.

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So Alex is like, hey brother, here's the point, and you want to know what the point is.

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I do want to know what the point is, because it seems like there's not one.

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There's not much of a point.

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There's a point, but that point keeps kind of moving whenever he rejects...

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Like this dude is staying right here in the pocket, and Alex is trying to find a weakness

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like, don't you want to fuck?

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That'll turn you into a man.

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No?

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Don't you want a job?

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That'll turn you into a man.

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Money?

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Money?

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Huh?

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You want money?

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No?

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Okay.

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So Alex has already taken the job offer to heart, and I think he thinks he's already

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an employee.

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But here we go.

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What's your takeaway from the talk we've had?

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You and I share a lot of common...

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We share common ideology, and personally, it's a unique thing to have the ideology that

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you and I both have.

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Well quantify that ideology.

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Define that ideology.

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You did not want to do that.

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What's your grassroots type goal?

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Things built on grassroots growth.

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Here's what you need to know.

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Yes, please.

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Here is where...

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Here's what I need to know.

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Here is where everything turns.

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Here is what you need to know is the sentence you fucking wish Alex Jones would say to you.

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You never want to hear him say...

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You never want to be a woman around him.

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That's one thing.

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No, never.

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You never want to not be white around him.

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Those are certainly caveats, but you want to hear him say, this is what you need to

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know because you know things are about to get fucked up, and of course, they do.

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Here's what you need to know.

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Your greatest accomplishment is the fact that your ancestors went through so many crises

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and threats and disease and war, and that you are their genetic expression.

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You are your ancestors in that great space-time continuum.

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The fact that you exist is an ultra-massive success in this universe.

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Whitely.

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The fact that you are white is the greatest thing that's ever happened to you, or it's

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the greatest thing you've ever done.

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Do you know what the name of this clip is on my computer?

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White breeding for generations has led to you.

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That is a piece of what he's saying.

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But now, the idea and the talk of your ancestors are through you and stuff like that, that's

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not too new to us.

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But trust me, he spells it out more here, and it's deeply disturbed.

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Where I would imagine biological life compared to the sum spectrum of the universe's measurements

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is in the Googleplex-level sub-point calculation.

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So the fact that you exist and are made in the image of God, a sentient being in the

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space-time continuum, makes you a super creature in the entire vortex of this dimension.

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Of existence.

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Of existence.

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Okay.

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So there's that.

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There's that.

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Hey, Alex, true of everybody.

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It's literally true of everybody.

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Except black people.

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Yeah, there you go.

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Non-white people.

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Non-whites.

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But I mean, I don't, the way he's presenting it, that isn't, I mean, he wouldn't say this

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to a black guy.

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No.

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I don't think.

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No.

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This is pure-

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Unless Kanye West came on.

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This is pure whiteness.

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It does feel that way.

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Yeah.

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It feels very much, because of all the breeding and the ancestry that he's calling back to

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and stuff like that.

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Oh yeah.

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It really, really feels like that's a piece of this.

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This is definitely, he was raised to believe that white people are chosen.

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Yep.

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He was raised to believe that white people are superior.

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Which makes it so fucked up in some way that he's-

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And that he's trying to raise a 30-year-old now to believe that white people are superior?

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There's that.

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That's definitely weird.

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And that he's obsessed with false versions of eugenics.

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Yeah.

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And lying to people about eugenics.

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Yeah.

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Well, I guess-

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Well, that's the problem.

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I guess you-

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They're lying to people about the real eugenics.

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Oh yeah.

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So look.

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Yeah.

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You're great-

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Here's what this is about.

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Your greatest success is everything that's happened in the past that you had nothing

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to do with.

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That you had nothing to do with.

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But also, there's more to it.

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And this is a Mike Downe clip.

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I think this is one of the most profoundly fucked up things I've ever heard Alex Jones

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say.

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Okay.

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And it goes on for a while.

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Okay.

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Not just this clip, but I mean what he's about to start talking about is like, this is why

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we're talking about Mike Rotondo again.

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Okay.

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All right.

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It's because he says this shit.

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Okay.

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It's because of the fact that you procreated even though you ended up breaking up with

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your fiance or whatever and ended up losing your son.

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We had a great relationship for a long time.

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Understand.

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There's no judgment on you.

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That's a real thing.

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You went out, you found a woman, you had a child, you were fertile, you did that magic

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thing.

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That's the second thing you did.

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So you're part of the genetic and space time electrochemical manifestation and genetic

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teleportation time-traveling system.

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It's life.

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It seems like a long time to us, but it's milliseconds along like the universe and how

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it's all like, I mean, I'm all my ancestors, there's a time, the genetics of that before

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me is hyper warping through time.

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So this is, this is just my ancestors and the energy all saw a big threat to us coming

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up to this point.

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So they built in momentum and then manifested for what was needed in their energy and this

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time space to put me in the cohesion of like existence.

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Exactly.

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Yeah.

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To take us, all of us next level.

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So I'm, I'm a lot of people here, you understand?

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We're from, we're, we're all from each other.

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Exactly.

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But I mean, they're really, they're good people.

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They're not aggressive and hateful and I just got to take on some bad people.

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So it's like in my mother's womb, all of it was decided with the mitochondrial DNA and

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everything to weaponize for me to come out, understand?

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But everybody has it to a lesser, greater degree.

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You have to decide to manifest that in your genetics, but it's sort of expressing your

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brain.

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So it might not have been done in the womb, but you can do it later.

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So

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Ooh boy, do you, what do you think about that?

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Okay.

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So if I understand correctly, what he is trying to get across here is that a pre-human existence,

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the very concept of life, recognize that eventually a threat would come to life.

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And so it putting forth a plan of action that led to Alex Jones being born in the right

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time to defeat the threat against earth, the globalist against life.

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You're thinking of this a little too.

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I think Alex Jones thinks he is Lelou from the fifth element.

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There's undoubtedly like some sort of savior complex that he's discussing right there.

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That's gross.

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This is Jesus level.

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This is gross.

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I know, I know.

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This is weird.

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No, no, no.

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This is severe mental illness.

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Yeah.

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When we talk about like Mike Rotondo is, he needs to be off the streets, probably needs

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to go to a hospital, but like

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Alex Jones needs to remain in a hospital forever.

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He needs to go to one of the hospitals from like the fifties.

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He needs to go somewhere with padded walls, bro.

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That idea that he's espousing there, that when I was in my mother's womb, see, maybe

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he did, maybe he's a ghost.

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Maybe this is an asylum story where he was killed in an 1800s mental asylum and now he's

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come back to haunt us through the radio.

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Are we even sure that Mike Rotondo is there?

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I don't know that I'm alive.

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There we go.

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Anyway, I know that my ancestors are pissed off about it cause I was supposed to do all

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kinds of shit.

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I was white.

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They're not thrilled.

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They, like you were looking at it too broadly.

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You're talking about all of history knew that there was going to be a threat and then created

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Alex Jones, not just his lineage.

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Now granted, that would be most of the people in the world considering he thinks he's related

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to the Tudors and he's Confederate royalty and all this shit.

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Holy shit, man.

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So, okay.

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In the womb.

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Yes.

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He was downloaded through the mitochondria.

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The tribunal of Alex's ancestors got together and they're like, oh boy.

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Like in the movie Mulan.

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They're like, oh shit.

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And the mitochondrial DNA is Eddie Murphy as Mooshu.

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I don't know.

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I don't understand.

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It's a great metaphor.

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Okay.

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So they're like, there's trouble.

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Shit's bad.

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Globalists, they got everywhere.

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They got a footing.

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You know?

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Thank God Alex Jones's ancestors were on the job.

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Right, right.

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Yeah.

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And they've been fighting globalism since before, like back when we thought there wasn't

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actually a globe.

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No, because they already knew that globalism would emerge, which is why they had to set

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in motion the plan to get out of Jones's bed.

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They probably know everything in the future too.

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This is God Emperor of Dune type shit right here.

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This is the Atreides line.

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It's a hot load of nonsense.

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Yeah.

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And it also, I like the idea that they were like, let's fiddle with this.

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Let's make him angry.

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Yeah, little dials.

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Let's make him angry.

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Little Westworld dials.

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Make him a guy who screams a lot, takes his shirt off.

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That'll defeat the globalists.

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Yeah.

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Got him.

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Let's weaponize this baby.

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Yeah.

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Which is also a bad way to view your life, as your genetics weaponized.

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Also like a lot of this is cribbed from various message board posts about the Illuminati.

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Yeah.

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Sounds right.

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So this is all stuff that he's taking as being like really important.

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This is like, you know how Carrie Cassidy will talk to a murderer and act like he knows

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stuff about secret space programs?

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It's becoming very clear to me, especially as I look into 2009 stuff, read Alex's primary

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sources and stuff like that.

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He's the exact same in terms of not being like, not caring about where he's getting

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information from, except he doesn't talk to Mark Richards.

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He just reads blogs.

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Yeah.

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He reads blogs and message boards and then pretends that they're like, this is the truth.

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Shit like that.

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It's insane.

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Now this next clip I've just titled, I'm deeply concerned about Alex's wellbeing.

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That's a good thing to be moving forward.

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Your ancestors had will and existed and were amazing at every different level.

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You now are here, you have now continued the bridge and created another level of that genetic

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electrochemical expression in the, in the space warp you're making.

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So you've already executed the next level of the space warp.

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I want to be clear.

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He's talking gobbledygook, but I understand everything he's saying.

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You know, it's not like he's talking above my head.

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I just, he's using unnecessarily stupid words in the space warp, right?

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It's just space warp.

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Okay.

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So my son's a function of me is what you're saying.

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A function of all of that.

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Everybody is physically and electrochemically connected all the way back to where we came

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from.

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Back and back.

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It is like a power line.

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It's history.

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It's power lines.

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It's power lines.

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You are back, whether it was billions of years, trillions of years or 6,000 years, like misinterpretations

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of the Bible.

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You are a continual line of all those people, right?

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Their juice, their guts, their sweat, what they saw went through those genes all the

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way through to what you are right now.

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Pretty big.

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Alex doesn't understand epigenetics, but anyway, that's what makes life so exciting.

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And now you've taken the next step.

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You had a child.

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It doesn't mean you're perfect and not everybody lives in this thing.

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I don't mean that metaphysically or physically can be both.

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Now the next thing is the world has decided to create a buffered nanny state so that more

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powerful individuals don't manifest towards the next jump, which is going to be even harder.

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And so there's a conflict going on to kill this experiment of consciousness before it

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goes the next level, because it's a particularly powerful experiment in consciousness by the

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mastermind.

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This is all from message board stuff I've read in the past.

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This is Harrison Bergeron.

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Yeah, well there's that too.

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There's flickers of Harrison Bergeron for sure through a lot of, he's like, they want

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to make you dumber, all that stuff.

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A lot of this stuff about the idea that there's an upcoming, they want us to fail, they want

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to sabotage humanity at this next time, it's going to be much harder for us to get up to

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the next level.

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This is all shit I read on Above Top Secret and all of these jack hole blogs that I used

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to read when I was younger and smoked a lot of weed.

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So I mean, he's just relaying all kinds of stupid horror shit.

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Like you should have known better.

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I read that, I was high and I was like, oh my god, this is scary, and then I would come

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down from being high and I'd be like, nah, that was fun.

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This is all stupid.

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It is going to be high.

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It's like watching a scary movie or something like that, that's what the experience was

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like.

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And Alex lives in that scary movie.

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Like, did you know that I live near Leatherface?

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He was my great-grandfather.

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Alex, come on, man.

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In the space warp.

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It's just fiction, it's just online immersive fiction, that's all that you're engaging in

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now.

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Oh, space warp.

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But he thinks it's real because his ancestors created him in the womb in order to engage

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with this fucking internet immersive fiction.

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It's deeply tragic.

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So this, again, this next clip is just labeled deeply upset.

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I really need to do a better job with these clips, but I know that it's accurate.

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You have to build the stairway to the rocket by doing the petty things our ancestors did.

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Thousands of years ago, they dreamed of gods and wars and all these sophisticated things

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and world governments and Mark of the Beast thousands of years ago and pillars of fire.

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They could already see the future, but they had to have sailing ships and mathematics

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and teach people and slowly build the steps, build the steps.

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And now we're at the door into the next level.

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But people that already got to the door, looked back and decided if all of them go through

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the door, they're going to challenge us on the other side.

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We need to cut them off so they don't go through the door.

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They don't know that that's the secret.

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You cut people off from the door.

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You don't actually go through the door.

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There's a trap door.

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You keep them all through the door, but they drop you.

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Now, understand that?

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Yeah, I do.

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Where do you think that comes from?

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We're going to get back to this.

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But first of all, I love-

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They don't know about the trap door.

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We fooled you.

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Everybody, we got another one in the trap door, this fucking idiot.

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He tried to close the door on the people behind him and he fell in the trap door and the door

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just opened up anyways.

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Goddamn, what an idiot.

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Something that I find deeply upsetting-

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There's a trap door.

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Something that I find deeply upsetting about that is Alex is describing this sort of metaphysical

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stuff with such concrete terms.

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They're standing at a physical door and they don't know there's a trap door if you try

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and stop people from going through the door.

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They don't know there's a trap door.

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It's like, this is sad.

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This makes me really sad.

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And again, it is-

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I'm just a big fan of the sudden appearance of a trap door.

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You might as well have been like, oh yeah, and you know what's underneath that trap door?

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Quicksand.

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Quicksand.

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The more you struggle, the more you keep going down.

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If you know what's in there, quicksand?

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Crocodiles.

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Oh no.

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But they're really chill crocodiles so they don't drown.

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And if you treat the crocodiles nicely, you get to go right back to the bottom of the

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steps.

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And they give you a gumdrop.

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Really?

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I thought of gumdrops.

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I don't know why you did either.

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I like it.

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It's good.

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So the thing is too, like a lot of this is really-

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This is a trap door.

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This harkens to, again, themes that are- like these ideas are discussed on these NWO Illuminati

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message boards online.

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Also Trapdoors Unlimited.

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For years.

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This is all that horseshit.

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Where do you buy a trap door?

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Well, you gotta build it.

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You gotta build it?

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You can't just buy one?

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You know about the Money Pit?

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Not the movie.

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Not the movie?

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Starring Tom Hanks and-

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No.

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Who was it?

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Meg Ryan?

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No, was it the Money Trap?

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What is that?

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It's a series of successive floors and if you- who cares, I don't want to talk about

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this.

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I want to get back to the universe and good and evil.

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Yeah.

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All that, the trick.

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Oh, real quick.

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The trick.

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The thing that I love is the idea that Alex is going on this long thing about like, there's

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a door and these guys are trying to stop you from going to that door.

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But they got a trap door.

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Trap door.

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Surprise the periods of the trap door.

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My favorite thing so far.

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And then he's like, you understand what I'm saying?

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And Mike is like, you bet.

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He's like, yeah, I get it.

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No, he said, he gave a little pushback.

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He said, where do you think this all comes from?

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Right, right.

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But after saying, yeah, I get it.

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Right.

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Right.

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Well then, yeah.

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Because I mean, he wants to know where evil comes from.

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Who doesn't?

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You know, why?

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You know, because I asked you, you said, do you believe it's inherent that people pursue

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their dreams?

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What is it that is or is not inherent about the origin of these other things that are-

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Well, there's the knowledge of good.

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Oh, more ways to learn.

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Where does the bad stuff come from is what I'm asking you.

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Well, if you're perfect and you understand how the universe works and you've got an unlimited

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energy to supply, you don't need to engage in manipulative systems.

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But in the knowledge of evil is knowledge of distortion and knowledge of manipulation.

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And so we have the knowledge of good and evil.

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And the modern church teaches us, oh, don't have the knowledge of evil, be a sheep.

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That's another distortion.

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No, the knowledge of evil now that we're in this paradigm is good because we have the

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knowledge of how the enemy's operating with the knowledge of evil.

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Are you following this?

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Yes.

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He's saying that because we know good and evil, it's okay for us to manipulate and distort

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things.

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Right.

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Well, because if you don't use the knowledge of evil, then you're a sheep.

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Right.

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Because these other people are manipulating and distorting things.

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So why shouldn't I do it?

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I need to be able to use the tools of evil because I'm so good.

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And you don't want to be a sheep like that's- like what- there was an asshole who was like,

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you should be sheep in a flock.

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Do you remember that asshole?

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Oh, who was that guy?

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That fucking dude, he was like, you should all be sheep.

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It was Ben Hur.

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No, come on.

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It was Spartacus.

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That's right.

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Yeah.

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The mainline Christian argument is you don't want to engage the knowledge of evil because

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it's so seductive that if you knew that, you would get ahead with that knowledge of evil.

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What if you just chose not to be evil?

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But then the definition is broad.

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You shouldn't try.

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We're going to end this in a minute.

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You just got to stop.

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You got to be like, I don't want to pursue this line any further because I just basically

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said on air that because I'm so good, it's okay for me to manipulate and distort things.

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Right.

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That's the power of evil.

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You got to use the power of evil.

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It's seductive.

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Alex, you just basically admitted that you're a propagandist, which is not news, but man,

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he's getting so into that space where he's like, I want to talk so big.

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I want to try and use my flowery language to hypnotize this boy.

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Don't you want to be like me?

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I'm a million.

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I mean, I'm struggling to get by, by these pills.

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I'm not a, it costs so much to run the operation.

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Roger Stone has been Trump's wingman for 30 years, but also he doesn't cheat.

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No Russians.

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No Russians.

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No, no, no, no.

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So you can trust him.

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This is a funny, I mean, with Roger Stone, he deliberately chooses not to use the knowledge

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of evil, right?

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Totally.

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Yeah.

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This is a funny moment where, uh, we've gotten out of esoteric stuff now, right?

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There's a couple of really funny things that happen.

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And then there's this last clip where they're having two different conversations at each

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other and it's so fucking mind-blowing.

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But before we get to that, Mike comes in with a, it seems like it's going to be a critique

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of Trump and then it turns real, it turns very weird.

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Do you remember when Donald Trump, but how much time do we have left?

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About five minutes.

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Do you remember when Donald Trump tried to, um, make his personal doctor in charge of

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the VA?

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Yes.

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So doesn't that seem like it's going to end up being like, why would he do that?

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Yeah.

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It doesn't end up that way.

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Remember when that got turned down because he didn't have the experience running the

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VA?

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Yeah, that was why.

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But he did have the experience, but that's how they defined it.

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Right.

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So you don't support that.

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You think that that, that, that, because he chose that person to do that based on that

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person.

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Yeah, I think that he's, Mike started this question in a critical way.

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And then once Alex pushed back on it, it was like, then he's like, oh yeah, yeah, of course

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he should have been allowed to.

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He's trying to make, he's trying to keep Alex calm.

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Yeah, a little bit.

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Yeah.

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This is a guy who's dealt with rage before.

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I think, I think there's a decent chance.

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And I, from everything I can tell, I would understand why he's making me like, cause

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I don't have to sit in the same room with him.

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It's hilarious.

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I'm grossed out.

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I'd be furious if I was like, just say anything.

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Anyway, it just goes, we don't need to hear the rest of that quote.

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It's just that.

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And also, by the way, it wasn't just that Trump tried to appoint his personal presidential

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doctor.

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He said he fired the other guy too.

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So anyway, in order to put in his own.

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And also his personal doctor may have committed a bunch of crimes.

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Possibly.

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It's certainly possible.

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And the ones that he denied was just the one and it was like, I wasn't driving like that.

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So now Alex decides, I got to fix this kid and I thought giving him a job was going to

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work.

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Didn't do it.

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I can't, I can't be around him.

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He's miserable.

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It's awful.

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He's miserable talking to this kid.

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Ruining it.

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And so he's like, I got to find a new way and here's his first volley.

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You should be, when media calls you up wanting to fly you as I've seen you on national TV,

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you should say, yeah, I need a thousand dollars to take off.

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You probably would've made $20,000 all the interviews you did.

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I wanted to give you $3,000 to pay for your flight to show you.

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Not because, see, at Globals would look at you and say, oh, this got to know what he's

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doing.

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Let me take advantage of it.

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There's 7 billion people.

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Most of them are retarded.

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This has been done by design.

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Right now, Alex is pretending to like sort of put his hand over the mic.

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It's almost like he's talking to him like, hey, you know that camera, it's not really

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on right now.

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There's 7 million people in the world.

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Most of them are retarded.

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Not like you and me, buddy.

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It's like that moment when the knife salesman breaks character and is like, oh, look, I'm

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hustling all them, but not you.

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This is crazy.

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But also I do like the idea of like, hey, charge a thousand dollars for 20 interviews,

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you got 20 grand.

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Anyway, I'm going to go back to the part where he's whispering because you need to experience

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this as a whole.

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This is so fucked up.

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See, a globalist would look at you and say, oh, this guy knows what he's doing, let me

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take advantage of it.

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There's 7 billion people.

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Most of them are retarded.

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This has been done by design.

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This is Alex Jones' jinx moment.

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It's as if he's in the bathroom saying this.

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Let me go back to the beginning.

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There's 7 billion people.

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Most of them are retarded.

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This has been done by design.

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They're getting ready to call everybody.

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They got the race specific bio weapons ready, everything.

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I really don't want to be part of this process.

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I've been offered to be part of it.

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I really don't want to do it.

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So I don't want to kill you.

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You understand?

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Good.

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That's good to hear.

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I'm not joking around, brother.

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All right.

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I'm not going to kill you.

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I'm saying.

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You repeating it makes me question that.

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On the good side, the brainiac consciousness, the way I'm talking is standard operating

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procedure at the highest levels.

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This is the language.

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And you're like humanity over there, caught in a lullaby, caught in this trance with the

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computers and the entertainment and the choices.

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So choices is not a great thing to throw at the end of the choices.

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Hey guy, Alex, what you're saying isn't brainiac consciousness.

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What are you saying?

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Isn't smart.

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He's just using words that he knows don't make sense to most people.

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He's using words that will confuse people most of the time.

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Exactly.

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It's the space war.

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Exactly.

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That sort of shit.

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It's the cosmic.

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It's a Googleplex on a decimal point basis or whatever.

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Sub section below the sub.

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It's just like, it's not, I'm not confused by what he's saying.

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I'm confused by how he's parsing his ideas and putting like things that are unrelated

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together.

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I'm uncomfortable with the way he's doing all of these things.

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But when he's like, this is how the people at the top talk, and when I'm just manifesting

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this brainiac consciousness, he's trying to impress him right after saying, uh, Hey, said

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everybody else is stupid.

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I'm not, you and I aren't like that.

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Look, they, they, they are all going to use race specific bio weapons and kill everybody,

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which isn't true.

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And then he's like, Hey, you know what?

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I don't want to kill you.

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That's the guy being like, I wouldn't screw you up.

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I'm not going to kill you.

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You know, I, I wouldn't, I don't want to be involved with these assholes anyway.

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You're not going to die.

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It's totally fine.

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I'm a brainiac.

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This is Alex is playing out his own thing here.

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Yeah.

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Mike doesn't have to be here.

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No, this is, this is all about Alex.

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Oh yeah.

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This is severe mental illness.

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Oh yeah.

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This is like, I mean, I know we're not professionals and the, uh, the Goldwater rule does exist,

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but his dude's crazy.

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Yeah.

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So in this next clip, Alex asks about drugs, the boys that kind of buzz out and go on their

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own little world.

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They leave alone.

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The ones that stand up, they put on Ritalin.

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I'm familiar with that.

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No, they, they stopped doing really long time ago.

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Ritalin gets abused.

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They call it Adderall, whatever Adderall.

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Are you on any drugs now?

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No.

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When I said you have a little bit of what they call autism, that's just their own term

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for it.

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The point is you need to realize that you're eccentric and have you ever done oil painting?

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So he is trying to, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no.

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You can't be doing that.

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What are you Alex?

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You cannot be doing that.

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That is not good.

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What are you doing?

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Do you know what he's just doing?

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What do you think he's doing?

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He is, he is trying to find something to pin autism on.

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What?

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Oil painting?

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Yeah.

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Why do you think that?

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He's doing the whole thing.

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What drugs are you on?

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Oh, you know, people would say you're something called autistic.

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Right.

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Right.

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You ever been around oil painting?

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Oh no, no, no.

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You ever been under power lines?

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No, no, no, no, no.

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He's trying to, no, no, no, I hear it.

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He is trying to find a way to blame this guy's, uh, autism on something that the globalists

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have done.

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And then he'll be able to say, no, no, no, no, yes, they put their shit in the oil paints.

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It's totally what he's doing.

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Jordan, you're right on a, on a bunch of these things with oil painting.

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You are not.

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Okay.

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Here's the next clip.

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All right.

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This is Mike down.

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Look, I understand where you're coming from and I admire that level of thought because

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it does seem like that's what Alex would be saying.

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It turns out what he's saying is a complete non sequitur question that leads to one of

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the craziest suggestions I've ever heard a human being make for another human being.

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And then when that suggestion is rejected, Alex gets really mad and rejected.

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He feels very, very sad.

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Okay.

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Have you ever done oil painting?

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Oil painting?

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No.

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You have enough of a name right now.

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If you struck while the iron was hot and started a website about yourself and started a Twitter

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and just said things you thought about the world and then you're a little late, but it's

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not like me, promote you a little bit.

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You would then be able to make a living selling oil paintings and making statements.

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I mean, I could see, here's like, if you listen to me, I'm not an artist like that.

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Oh, exactly.

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You couldn't do that.

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Exactly.

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If you listen to me, I can see 50 paths for you.

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And if you listen to one path, I could just not control what you did, but just give you

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a path because you're just an example of humanity right here, right now, millennial caught in

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the mindwash.

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And so you won't, you won't, you're just, you're saying, well, I couldn't do that.

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I couldn't do this.

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I couldn't do that.

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But you could get on an airplane and get paid $3,000 to come here.

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And that's why I did this.

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You understand that, don't you?

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I do.

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That check will clear the bank when you cash it.

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I can't imagine that it wouldn't have.

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Right up until the point where you said it, I never questioned it.

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And now check eight three zero nine four cancel.

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Oh man, that was a mess.

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That was a mess.

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So his suggestion is because he doesn't want him to work there anymore.

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No, he's got to come up with never wanted him to work there.

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He's got the first suggestion, which is charged the media a thousand dollars to go on their

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shows, which is probably too late for that.

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His other suggestion is do you do oil painting?

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I do that.

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Well, if you had a website, you could just sell oil paintings and get paid to make statements

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on Twitter.

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Yep.

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What the fuck?

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Yeah.

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He's like, I think Alex is like, I could come up with 50 different things for you to do.

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You know what's crazy?

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But you, you're a stupid fucking millennial, so you wouldn't listen to any of them.

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You wouldn't listen to me saying you should sell oil paintings with your stupid response

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that I'm not an artist.

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What's fascinating about that is I think what he just described is a social media influencer,

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which is a job wholly created by millennials.

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Yeah.

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So.

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But, but it's oil paintings.

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Yeah.

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Okay.

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That's right.

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That's old people shit.

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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The millennials could never have thought of oil painting.

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The mixture of the old and the new comes together to form the beautiful time traveling power

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line.

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Yep.

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Yep.

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I don't think it's someone being not willing to do a put in effort when you say you should

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do something you can't do and they say, I don't have a skill for that.

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I think that would be scamming people by selling them shitty oil painting.

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I think you just described a con.

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Did you just describe a con?

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I got 50 different cons.

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You know, you know how you don't make things that people want.

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Well, now that you're famous, people want those things and you can just sell it to them.

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But you don't know any better.

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You don't make those things.

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You've got to start making them.

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Yeah.

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Now that you're famous, you got to do it.

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Now that you quantifiably have no skills, such an asshole.

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But the reason he's doing this is because he accidentally opened the line of communication

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earlier in the day about giving him a job.

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And he's like, you know how lame this guy would be around Owen and Rob do like to sexually

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harass people.

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It's fun.

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No one complains except for that time that I accidentally hired a black girl and then

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our God that just blew up in my face.

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I'm going to hire this guy.

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He's going to be a buzzkill.

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My dad is going to have to deal with HR complaints.

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He's out on a boat.

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He's not even at the office ever.

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What are we going to do?

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He's just pissed off.

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So he's like, you should sell oil painting.

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Yeah.

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It's a good idea.

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What was he, was he thinking about George W at that exact moment?

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Was he just like, Hey, George W, he was a war criminal and now he just sells oil paintings.

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That might be a part of that.

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You could be that.

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So here is the next piece where Alex asks for his final thoughts.

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And this is where I think Mike thinks he already has a job.

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Okay.

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Well, listen, Michael, we got 30 seconds left, a minute left.

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Any final statements you want to make?

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Thank you for having me on the show.

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I really, it means you and I are going to be dealing with each other and working together

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for a while.

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But not if you don't start taking steps.

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We'll get there.

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We'll, we'll.

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No, we're not going to get there.

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The getting there is going up the steps.

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If you don't step on the first step and then step on the second step, then step on the

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third step.

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You understand what I'm saying?

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Yeah.

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Yeah, I get it.

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I get it.

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I get it.

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Which is step on step, which is I'm laying some steps for you to get to stepping.

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You take some steps out the fucking door to get to your plane.

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So now Jordan, we have hit the last clip and I apologize in advance that this is five

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minutes long.

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You got to give me a high sign when you want me to pause it or something like that.

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Because this is two men having conversation with each other where neither of them understands

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what the other is saying.

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One of them is in a high status position.

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In this case, it's Alex.

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It doesn't want to put up with the other guy's bullshit.

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God damn it.

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This is so crazy.

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And also rest in peace, knock.

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Okay.

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I'm not comparing you to a dog, but I had a Labrador retriever, German Shepherd mix

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named max when I was about six years old and we lived by the highway and somebody dumped

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him off.

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It was a sweet dog.

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But every time we tried to go, even he lived out, he was 15 years old, a hip dysplasia.

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I was there.

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They put him in the bed with me.

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Probably got to my parents house strangely enough.

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He like, uh, he died before I moved out.

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I was like 18.

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I had him when I was like five years old, six years old and we're putting the dog in

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the bed with me and sleeping with him.

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And I woke up, he was cold and dead in the morning, but he'd had a heart attack, Jesus,

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or it was murder.

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We thought, but the point was every time I tried to load him up in my truck or my dad's

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land cruiser, he would get scared piss everywhere cause he thought we were going to dump him.

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What?

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Yeah.

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How much time do we have left?

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We're almost over.

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My point I'm telling you is listen.

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So real quick, just because I mean, it's very obvious what he's talking about.

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Like the metaphor is super clear.

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You're the dog.

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You're the dog who I'm trying to put in the car.

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I'm trying to help you.

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You're pissing on me and you're pissing all over.

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I don't want to call you a dog, but look, there was a dog I had, you know, he couldn't

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get over that trauma.

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I never beat the dog.

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I love that dog.

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I buried that dog myself, my childhood, but he couldn't get past the trauma and he couldn't

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trust me to get in the car.

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So now Alex is feeling this about Mike, but he's talking about himself.

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There's no doubt in my mind that Alex is talking about his own pain and his own trauma, but

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using Mike as a surrogate to get it out and deal with it.

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I hated that dog.

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No, I have been hurt.

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I have pain from the past that I'm unable to get over and he's putting that on Mike

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very clearly because Mike hasn't said anything to indicate any of this.

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No.

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Because he thought I was whoever it was.

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We got him, he's probably about seven months old, who was nice to him and sweet to him,

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but then dumped him on the side of the road.

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I grew up with my grandmother's dog, Sandy, and she was my friend for years.

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And I remember Mike and your father brought your dog to you to die with you.

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My father came into my bedroom one day and told me that Sandy was dead.

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Well, she brought her to die, right?

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She brought her and killed her.

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He brought her to the pound or not the pound.

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Well, he thought you were emotionally weak and couldn't handle it.

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Really?

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He thought I was emotionally weak and couldn't handle what?

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I was 18 and still living there and the dog fell over and my dad checked and said, yeah,

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his heart's palpitating.

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They're not going to be able to save him.

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He was 15, you know, everything.

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So I got the dog and stuck it in the belly of me and went to sleep.

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He was dead in the morning.

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So you did that?

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Well, I lived there and it was almost like an art trouble sign.

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My dog's dead.

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Time to go.

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Because a week later I moved out.

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The whole point was childhood's end.

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Real quick, the day before or earlier on the show, Alex said that his mom kicked him out

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of the house because he was dating a woman who liked to yell at his mom.

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So the idea that his dog died and you realized, hey, it's time to get out of the house, childhood's

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end, that doesn't match up with a story he told an hour earlier.

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Also, this dog story, the competition is...

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I had my first dog when I was around 11.

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I don't want to hear it.

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And then later it died.

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So from this point forward, there are two conversations that are happening.

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One is Alex still trying to make this very easy to understand point about you don't want

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to go along with me trying to help you.

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And then Mike now trying to be like, why did you think my dad thought I couldn't handle

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that?

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Yep.

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So that will now be the flavor for the next couple minutes.

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This is our playground?

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Yeah.

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But what I'm telling you about the dead dog is that people get trauma and they live by

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that trauma their whole life because the story about the dog on its death, the dog pissed

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itself and moaned and ran every time we tried to take it on a road trip, even though we

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took it on probably 50 to 100 road trips, and it still had the trauma.

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This is where you should be pointing hard.

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You are the dog!

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You!

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Dude, at the beginning of the clip, he said, I don't want to call you a dog, which means

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I'm about to give a metaphor and allegory about a dog, but you are very specifically

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the dog.

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Is it your speculation that my father handled Sandy that way because he thought that I was

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emotionally weak?

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No, the story was about the dog's trauma.

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I'm asking you where you're getting that information from.

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No, no, no.

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I'm saying, where am I getting it from?

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I'm telling you, I've seen this before.

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Where are you getting that particular piece of trauma?

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People have to get, the dog was an animal.

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It was good, but it would not get past that it was traumatized.

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No matter how nice I was to it for 15 years or 14, that it would not go to the vet, would

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not go to the park, it would not go on a road trip with me, even though the road trips would

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always jump out of the car happily.

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It thought it was being taken to be dumped and would beg me and plead like a person every

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time I took it, even though I did nothing to it because somebody else did something

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bad to it.

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And that's what the globalists do is they pump out all this abuse to then blame on other

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people.

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I'm telling you, you can't be like that dog just because you've had a bad experience in

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the world.

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You've got to get back up on the horse and roll the dice again.

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Like the dog did.

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No, it's always different.

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It's not the same thing.

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The definition of insanity is believing it's the same thing.

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Like the dog.

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The dog, the story is about the dog always being traumatized and me having to traumatize

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it to take it to the vet or to the park or to go anywhere, having to pick it up while

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it pissed on me until the day it died, begging me not to take it away because of whoever

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it was taken away from.

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I didn't betray the dog, but every time I took it somewhere, I had to metaphysically

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experience the betrayal of the dog cycling again, because dogs are very psychic.

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It's what we have around the psychic buffers.

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I'm going to leave you alone about these issues.

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The point is I can't talk to you unless you start taking steps because you are patient

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zero in extracting the millennials out of the trance they're in, just like dogs that

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have been abused by the technology and the system and the neglect and the latchkey crap

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and all of it.

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You have to stop following the same thing.

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You're not, I'm not, you're not that dog.

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You're not that same person.

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You're not reliving the same thing over and over again.

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It's a whole new world out there.

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You got to go.

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Your plane's in like an hour.

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We'll be an hour and 20 minutes.

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Be right down the road.

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All right.

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Hey, we'll talk to you soon.

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Yeah.

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I can come on.

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I don't have to come down here.

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I mean, if we can do something quick over the phone, we can do that too.

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Michael Rotondo, take your stuff with you.

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God bless you.

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And that's the end.

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That's a fucking bad end.

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That's awful.

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So I want to say one thing really clear and maybe we should have said this at the beginning.

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The fun thing that was occurring in that dynamic there was him almost existing within the trauma

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that Alex is saying that the dog was in.

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Like Mike sitting there going like, so you're saying that my father didn't think I was emotionally

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strong enough?

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Of course not.

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Of course not.

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Of course not.

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Of course not.

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Of course not.

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But I want to talk about my dog.

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No, but where did you get that information?

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Listen, my dog died in my bed.

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Is that just speculation or did my dad talk to you about this in advance?

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Now see here.

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Cause that's the trauma right there.

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Well it is traumatic.

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That is the daddy issue we've been looking for.

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That's the smoking gun right there.

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And the way Alex Jones is interacting with him, I think that borders on abusive, him

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saying something.

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Oh yeah, absolutely.

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Well he just called him a dog.

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Well not that part.

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He just called him a coward dog that's been traumatized and now is incapable of moving

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beyond that.

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While at the same time incapable of saying that he himself is also the traumatized dog

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incapable of moving on past the traumas that he's existed in.

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I just understood what you're getting at.

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I was looking at two separate pieces.

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Oh yeah, no.

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I did not understand that what you meant is that if one were tracking this conversation

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that Alex is having with him, which obviously he's talking about, inability to get over

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the trauma is what made the dog piss on him and not be able to go along with stuff.

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So if Rotondo, if Mike were to, the way he latched onto Alex saying that your dad thought

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you were too weak, that could fill the gap of explaining what the metaphorical getting

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thrown out of a car was.

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And that's why he glommed onto it so much as opposed to it just being like, hey, the

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fuck are you talking about?

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Yeah, that makes a lot more sense.

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That makes the dual conversations not as curious.

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And I mean if I were in his shoes and someone who's not, as Alex put it, quirky, I would

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still be like, the fuck's your problem?

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Why did you say that to me?

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That would halt the interview.

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Also, Alex himself gives the Freudian slip whenever he's like, I'm your, you're also

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the dog.

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Alex, you're a broken person the same way that, and you're not going to, you're trying

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to fix you while at the same time you're trying to push you away.

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And it's all, this is such a psychodrama of bananas.

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And that's why we did a second one.

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If this was a play, you would watch this and be like, this is the dumbest fucking shit

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I've ever heard before in your life.

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But watching this happen in real life, you're like, this is the dumbest fucking shit I've

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ever heard before in my life.

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Yeah, but especially because it's like we cover the Info Wars world and there's only

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like six varieties of episodes or things that can usually happen.

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The fact that this is a seventh now is like, hoo boy, Alex trying to fix himself through

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daddying someone is an interesting leitmotif for Info Wars to take on.

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It seems so weird that it's so easy to jump into this, but the idea that we're doing a

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show about a crazy person trying to fix his own life through this on air.

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And probably trying to distract from the fact that like, he's not going to prison, but he's

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got to be worried that like, I got to answer some questions soon.

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Like there's going to be a coming to Jesus moment, whether I like it or not.

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So he's probably pretty stressed out about that.

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Now I want to say this, I tried to jump into this right at the end, like I said, I think

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we probably should have said this at the beginning of the episode and fuck us for not, kind of.

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Look, Michael Rotondo is someone who has a bad history with him stalking a lady.

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Now I don't know enough of the details of that to say that maybe his mental illness

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contributed to that.

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Most likely probably did.

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Almost always.

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That doesn't excuse the behavior.

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Nope.

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That is still bad.

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What I'm trying to get at is the reason that this is funny and the reason we're laughing

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at it is not because Mike and whatever mental illness he has or wherever he lands on the

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spectrum.

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We're laughing because of Alex's stupidity and complete obliviousness to the situation

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and the complete indecency with which he treats this guy.

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That's what's funny.

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It's not laughing at Mike, although certainly not letting him off the hook for anything.

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This reminds you so much of like fucking 70s movies where the kid is growing up in the

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70s and his dad was raised in the 50s and he's doing the whole distant parenting thing,

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getting drunk and yelling at this kid, not able to understand why he likes the rock music

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or whatever it is.

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Why do you like Italians?

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Why are you biking?

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Why aren't you going to the factory and getting yourself a job, you son of a... You'll never

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understand me, dad.

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Like it's the whole fucking thing.

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Like breaking away.

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Yeah, except it's two adults living in both parts at the same time.

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Like there's no third act where the dad comes around and realizes, hey, my son's into some

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quirky stuff, but he's really cool or whatever.

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The dad goes to the bike race at the end of breaking away and he's like, hey, he's great.

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He did great.

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None of that.

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This is fucked up.

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It's just going to be Alex.

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This is just two grown men with daddy issues being daddy issued at each other.

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That's the really difficult, troubling part is that like you do sometimes as you listen

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to this, forget like that's a 30 year old dude.

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I know, right?

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He's being infantilized to a really disgusting extent.

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And that's coming from Alex.

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If the conversation was being done completely differently, I think that Mike would be able

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to handle himself quite decently.

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Like he made a couple points that were counter to things that Alex believes and he didn't

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do a terrible job.

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In the same way the last episode when he said, I don't think that it's great to have people

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not having food that need food or shelter on the streets, that's going to cause crime.

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It's fine to raise taxes.

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It's going to get rid of crime, you know, that.

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And then what was the one on this?

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Oh, the 5G isn't really that scary.

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It's not going to kill us.

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I think we should probably worry about race relations.

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We should deal with racism.

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Like he's not an idiot.

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He's kind of an idiot in the sense, not idiot's not the right word.

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There's something that he's unable to understand what's appropriate to a certain degree, but

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I don't know if it's to a clinical level, but he's not stupid.

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If someone wasn't screaming at him and saying complete bullshit and trying to be like, take

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my pills.

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That's unfair.

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Brendan Dassey wouldn't have given a confession to all that bullshit if it wasn't for five

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straight hours of weird guys.

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If Alex was there, Brendan Dassey would have become an info warrior and would have said

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it was a good idea or whatever.

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Also, that other dude still might have done it.

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Who fucking cares?

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I don't know.

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Injustice, look, do you know 5G is coming?

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Who gives a shit about the justice system?

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5G stands for five justice.

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So this, this brings us to, thank you, back to even.

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This brings us to the end of our Michael Rotondo saga.

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Unless three weeks from now he comes back with a book review.

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If he does a book report, I guess we have to do it.

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I feel like we don't.

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I think we got to the-

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I don't know if we can or not.

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I think we got to the bottom of this because again, like we said repeatedly, it's not about

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him.

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This is about Alex.

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This is entirely about Alex.

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And what kind of headspace he's in.

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And so we wish everyone the best.

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Say-

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I guess.

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Reconcile with your fathers, I guess?

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Actually, Alex does say that in this episode.

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What?

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Reconcile with your father?

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Well, in that section where he's talking about how genetically it's a power line going down,

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he's like, whatever your dad did, you should go and reconcile, tell him you're sorry.

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Thank him for being white.

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You don't know what his dad did.

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I don't know either, but like, you know abuse exists, Alex.

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I don't want no part of that.

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No, neither do I.

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Just like we said at the beginning of the last episode, hard pass on this story.

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This is only fun because of Alex.

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Yeah, absolutely.

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So what else is fun is our website, knowledgefight.com.

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Nice transition.

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I'm doing a lot of work on knowledgefight.com right now.

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It's not apparent, but when it is, once it becomes apparent-

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It will be.

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And then it'll have race memory, because it's apparent.

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And it's got a white background, so we're good.

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It's kind of gray.

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But there's a lot of fun stuff to enjoy on there.

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And if you want to check it out, it's there, knowledgefight.com.

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Yeah.

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If I was on Twitter, add knowledge underscore fight.

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The website on Facebook, whoa.

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There.

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Facebook.

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There.

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We're on Facebook.

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We're on Facebook.

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There you go.

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We have a group called Go Home and Tell Your Mother You're Brilliant.

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We're also doing a live show in Austin, June 15th, beer land.

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The doors are opening at nine.

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Is that for sure?

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Yes.

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Okay.

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The show is starting at 10.

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Okay.

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That's late.

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We have-

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I'm cool with it, but that's late.

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I don't know.

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I'm just hoping anybody shows up.

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Late night podcast, please.

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It's going to be great.

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It's going to be a lot of fun.

Unknown Speaker (02:19:59.379)

All right.

Unknown Speaker (02:20:00.379)

I believe it's you.

Unknown Speaker (02:20:02.379)

I guess it is.

Unknown Speaker (02:20:03.379)

Well, really, the only choice here, I'm certainly not going to tell Mike Rotondo to fuck himself.

Unknown Speaker (02:20:09.180)

Alex is a bad choice, so I will go with Reverend Rodney Howard Brown.

Unknown Speaker (02:20:13.500)

Go fuck yourself.

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Andy in Kansas.

Unknown Speaker (02:20:17.059)

You're on the air.

Unknown Speaker (02:20:18.059)

Thanks for holding.

Unknown Speaker (02:20:19.059)

Hello, Alex.

Unknown Speaker (02:20:20.059)

I'm a first time caller.

Unknown Speaker (02:20:21.059)

I'm a huge fan.

Unknown Speaker (02:20:22.059)

I love your work.

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I love you.