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Andy in Kansas, you're on the air. Thanks for holding.
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Hello Alex, I'm a first time caller. I'm a huge fan. I love your work.
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I love you. Hey everybody, welcome back to Knowledge Fight. I'm Dan.
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I'm Jordan. Workable dudes like to sit around, drink novelty,
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pay over jails, and talk about Alex Jones quite a bit. I'm gonna drop the pretense.
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Indeed, we are. We're not driving, we don't talk about him a little bit.
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We're talking about- Exclusively.
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Exhaustively. Almost, almost too much.
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That's what my parents say. Me, mine too.
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How you doing, Jordan? Oh, I'm doing good, Dan.
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Great. Dan.
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What's up? What's the longest road trip you've ever been on?
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Oh, so glad you asked. Thank you.
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I've been on many road trips. I love a road trip.
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You grew up in central Missouri, especially. It's like, you gotta get out. You gotta go places.
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Of course, because you're in central Missouri.
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Yeah, I mean, growing up, me and the family with the parents and my brother,
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we would go to California every summer and we would drive because my parents didn't
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like to fly. It was too expensive. And then also we would just camp all along the way
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in order to not pay for hotels. Right, right, right.
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Like go to a KOA and pay 20 bucks to get there. Hell yeah.
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Sometimes national parks. Take that, the man.
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Yeah, it was a good time. We'd do that every summer because all my extended family was out
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somewhere in California for the most part. Yeah, so we would go out there and each time we would
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go, we would try and take a different route so we could hit different national parks.
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That's fun. So I was a little bit obsessed
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with national parks as a boy because it was a real dork.
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Yeah. Then as an adult, I guess,
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probably one of the longer ones is me and my buddy Nikki Gifts. We took a road trip from Missouri
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down to Boulder. So our friend James Desolation Williams moved out there and we went to go pay
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him a visit. He was doing some work at the Avery Brewery and he promised us that we could drink
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a bunch of Avery beer for free. Worth a long drive.
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Worth a long drive. We drove out west.
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Yeah, it was a good time. You were like the 49ers, but just for a couple of drinks.
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There might have been more involved in it than that, but that would have been enough.
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So yeah, good times. I love a road trip. I miss it.
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I like a road trip. That's one of the reasons
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I fantasize about getting an RV in the future. This is coming up too much on the show now.
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I've always wanted to drive cross country. I don't know what, there's something romantic
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about the idea of just getting on 80 and starting in California and going all the way east.
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That's probably why you're a comedian. It could be.
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Yeah, you fantasize about that road dog life. I like to get on the road. I need to live that
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road life. Well, you get to experience so many other little places that you would never be
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otherwise. There's a lot to that, I think. Absolutely.
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I think getting to experience different modes of life.
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Or just the- Valuable.
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The number of weird, silly roadside attractions will never... Anytime we're driving on something
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I see- Wall drug.
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Yeah, hell yeah. If there's a billboard for it, like, oh, come see this cave. I'm like,
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yeah, fucking we're going to see that cave. The world's largest pecan.
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Yes. Give me two of those. I got tricked by that one time. It's ceramic.
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Don't even bother. It's so stupid.
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Ceramic? That's not fair.
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It's a big old fake nut.
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Bullshit. Bullshit. That doesn't count.
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Nope. I was furious.
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You should have your license revoked if that's what it's in.
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But that's all of them. So many of those roadside things are just like, oh, you got me.
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Yeah, yeah, yeah. You sneaky assholes.
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It's a nice little scam. I like it.
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I respect the hustle.
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Exactly.
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There's nothing else I respect, Jordan.
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What's that?
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Is that this is a podcast where I know a lot about Alex Jones.
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And I only know what you tell me about it.
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What I respect more than that is the generosity of our donors, which make this show possible.
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So before we get going with today's episode, I got to take a second to say thank you.
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Some of these people have signed up and are supporting the show.
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First of all, John, you are now a policy wonk.
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I'm a policy wonk.
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Thank you, John.
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Thanks, John.
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Next, Alex. Thank you so much. You are now a policy wonk.
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I'm a policy wonk.
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Thank you, Alex.
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Next, Craig. Thank you so much. You are now a policy wonk.
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I'm a policy wonk.
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I like to believe that's Craig Manning from Degrassi.
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Oh, yeah.
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The next generation.
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OK, next, the beautiful thumb.
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Thank you so much. You are now a policy wonk.
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I'm a policy wonk.
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I like to believe that's the beautiful thumb from Degrassi.
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And finally, I say thank you to somebody who donated a little bit of an elevated level.
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We appreciate that very much.
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So, Bridget, thank you so much.
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You are now a technocrat.
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Excuse me.
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I'm a policy wonk.
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Crikey, mate. That's fantastic.
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Have yourself a brew.
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How's your 401k doing, bro?
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We got to go full tilt boogie on this, Watson, all right?
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Let's just get down to business.
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We ain't making that money off that heroin.
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Why you pimps so good?
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My neck is freakishly large.
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I declare info war on you.
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Thank you so much, Bridget.
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Thank you very much, Bridget.
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By the way, this is Bridget, not as opposed to the one, the Bridget,
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which could have also been Bridget, but spelled differently.
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Two Bridget's or a Bridget and a Bridget in the house.
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Either way, different people, we thank you both very much from the bottom of our hearts.
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Yes.
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If you'd like to support the show,
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you can do that by going to our website, knowledgefight.com,
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clicking the button that says support the show.
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We would appreciate it.
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Please do.
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And also we are incredibly behind on these shout outs.
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So we will be doing a supplementary shout out session.
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We're doing double shout outs.
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At the end of this episode.
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Hell yeah.
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Stick around for us trying to riff on people's names.
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Very exciting.
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So we didn't have an episode on Wednesday,
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and I guess we should just come out and explain partially one of the reasons,
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and that is that we've had a bit of a fantasy of doing an audio book of Mark Richard's book,
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who is Carrie Cassidy from Project Camelot's big whistleblower.
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He put out a book called Imperial Marin Volume One.
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Our buddy Mike was so kind as to go and help us secure the text of that book.
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And we have sat down twice to try and do it.
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And we just can't.
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It's not possible.
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It's not possible.
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That's what we had intended to start putting out on Wednesday.
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We had sat down and we tried for the second time to get through it.
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And it is just some of the most awful nonsense.
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It's really, really bad.
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It's really bad.
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It's very boring.
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It's bad in the same way that...
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What is it?
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What is it?
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The room.
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It's bad in the same way the room is really bad.
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It is alternately very, very, very funny and incredibly boring at the same time.
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We can fill you in on some of the funny stuff.
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There's a character named Mako Shark Rampant.
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The greatest name in history.
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In history.
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Shark Rampant.
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There are so many sharks in his life.
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He talks about biohides and skin wings.
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And you have no idea if anybody is a human or a cat being.
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No clue.
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Or I don't even know if Mako Shark Rampant is a shark.
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I have no idea.
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Sometimes there's pause, but in Shark Rampant, no fins.
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It's not worth it to find out, though.
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It's what we learned.
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Because we sat down, we got like 45 minutes in.
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Like, we are two and a half pages through this.
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Yeah, it's not gonna be good.
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And it's like, it's very long.
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Like, we will probably end up putting out a, what, 80-hour audiobook of this?
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No good.
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Not going to work.
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No, no, no, no.
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So that kind of torpedoed our plans for Wednesday.
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But thank you very much to Mike for getting us to do this.
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Huge shout out to Mike.
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He's a very, very cool dude.
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And our apologies for missing the episode and the fact that we just can't do this.
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And not least of which, in those two and a half pages, it was really, really horny.
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Like, it was so horny.
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It was like, we're saving you from from listening to a dude.
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He's talking about how, like, a sword is the perfect intersection of maleness and he's
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banging it against the floor.
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Up and down repeatedly.
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Yeah, it's not good.
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No good.
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So, Jordan, today we are back in the present because we got to experience the fallout.
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Man, we're just staying in the present, huh?
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Well, so much has happened.
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I know.
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Because the attorneys in the Sandy Hook case that Alex is in, they accurately interpreted
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his performance from his Friday episode from last week wherein he yelled a bunch about
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Chris Matti, one of the attorneys who is the opposing counsel, and Alex very clearly was
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implying threats against the guy.
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Yeah.
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And so they responded appropriately and filed a motion.
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Hey, you can't do that.
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And Alex got some sanctions against him.
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He has to pay the attorney's fees for the porn situation that he is in.
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He can only buy oil from Saudi Arabia now, he can't get it from Iran.
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Indeed.
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Lot of sanctions.
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And more to the point, a lot of people have gone sideways in covering this whole thing.
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And I want...
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Yeah, it's been a disaster.
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There have been some...
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So Alex did his whole thing on Friday.
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Yeah.
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And then immediately The Daily Beast and a number of other places put out stories about
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how Alex went on a weird rant and offered a million dollars for information about who
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had sent this to his email accounts.
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All good and well.
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I think that's fairly fine.
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All good and well?
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I mean, I think he walked it back after getting some reasonable advice from Norm Pattison.
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He sobered up the next day and walked it back to $100,000 and took away the stipulation
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that it belonged to conviction because that's illegal.
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That's illegal.
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So he did walk that all back, but it's fine.
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The Daily Beast's report on that, I think, was about as accurate as you're gonna get.
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Yeah.
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Then on Monday, the Connecticut Post, I believe is the publication, paper out of Connecticut
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or publication out of Connecticut, put out a story where the headline was,
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Lawyer Alex Jones Sent Sandy Hook Lawyer's Pornography.
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Yeah, yeah.
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And because of the way it was framed in the headline, it made it appear that Alex had
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maliciously sent this to the lawyers, when in reality, it was technically accurate.
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He sent a batch of things in discovery.
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Yes, yeah.
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And illegal pornography happened to be in it.
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Right.
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So the problem is Alex only understands headlines.
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Yes.
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And so when you have a headline like that, it's going to cause trouble.
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And from there, things didn't get better.
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Oh, they didn't.
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In terms of the media coverage of this stuff.
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Yeah.
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So we're gonna go over that.
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We're going to experience how Alex experiences the media coverage of the situation that he's
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in.
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And I think that there's a very important lesson that we will learn in the middle of
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this episode, and there'll be some funny stuff.
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I've tried to make this as not painful as possible.
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I don't think it's going to be nearly as bad as Monday's episode, virtually.
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That is a low bar.
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Yeah.
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And I think we learned something profoundly funny about Alex and his plans for the future.
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All right.
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But before we do get into any of this.
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Yes.
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We have an out of context drop.
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Okay.
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And this is Alex Jones channeling one of the greatest comedians of the 70s and 80s.
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You know, people used to watch TV, but now the TV's watch you.
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If anybody, if anybody had any questions about Alex Jones's loyalties to Russia.
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We have just solved that.
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There it is.
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He's doing a goddamn impression.
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Wait, was Yakov Russian or was he Ukrainian?
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Yakov Smirnov.
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I thought he was Ukrainian.
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I don't know why I thought he was Ukrainian.
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All his jokes are about Russia.
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I know.
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Not all of them.
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That's not fair at all.
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I know.
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Yeah.
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But that was before the fall of the Soviet Union.
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He may or may not be Ukrainian.
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I'm not entirely sure.
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I will say that I don't know that.
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It's my understanding that his public character is that he's Russian.
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All right.
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So let's jump in today.
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We're going over June 17th through 19th.
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So it's Monday through Wednesday of this past week.
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And Alex starts off by talking about why he has all this paper in front of him.
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We don't lay these articles out on here as a prop.
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These are all stacks I've gone through.
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No.
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No.
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That was a pretty short first clip.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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That one quick and to the point.
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He was lying right out the gate.
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Short and sweet.
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Yeah.
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And now we jump from there.
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That's just to sort of set up.
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He talks about those stacks quite a bit.
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Okay.
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But in this next clip, Alex is defensive about how the media is covering the situation that
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he finds himself in.
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And we'll find out that once again, that he's only pointing the finger at himself.
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What happened to us just last week?
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We learned we've been under investigation for two weeks by the FBI, who then gave a
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statement to my lawyer and said, Infowars is the victim.
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Someone sent you emails with child porn on them.
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You didn't know, put them.
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And it just so happened to be, we're going to get you for talking about Sandy Hook.
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You piece of crap.
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Here's more threats.
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And if you clicked on it, which we didn't do, it's child porn.
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The national media ran with Infowars infected with malware with child porn.
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Their servers aren't safe.
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Think about the deception.
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But the FBI does say that Jones is innocent.
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It wasn't malware.
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It was individuals sending us emails to trick us to open them, saying, we're going to get
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you, Alex Jones, and here's our threats against you.
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And you click on it and it's horrible crime.
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All the articles that talked about malware were literally quoting Norm Pattis, Alex's
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lawyer, because he said it was malware.
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Now, it was clumsy phrasing on his part, but that doesn't negate the fact that the only
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thing that they're reporting on is what your fucking lawyer said.
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Same thing with that Alex is playing a character thing.
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It's like, yes, the media is reporting on what your lawyer said, defending you and your
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child custody case.
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Now, take that up with your lawyer, not the media.
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They're quoting him.
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And don't expect Norm to know completely what malware is.
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No, that's a reasonable mistake for him to make.
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So that should characterize some of this.
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He's really trying to get messy with definitions, trying to point fingers around, and this trend
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is going to go through this episode very, very consistently.
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But his main story on Monday, the 17th, is not his own plight.
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It is not Iran, which I don't think he cares all that much about anymore.
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It's not Ebola.
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He has forgotten about Ebola on the southern border.
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Just mere hop, skip, and a jump away from him in Austin, by the way.
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Right, right, right.
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Ebola.
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It's coming.
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It's coming.
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He does mention it a couple times over the course of these three days, but he does not
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really care anymore.
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San Antonio has lost him.
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Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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Cut your losses, you know?
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It's because he has to move on to greener pastures.
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And that is that Facebook has mentioned that they're going to release their cryptocurrency.
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Oh, God.
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This is the mark of the beast.
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Oh, yes.
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Of course it is.
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And Alex has to yell about it.
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Facebook has now said, if you don't behave, they're watching you at all times.
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You will not be able to buy or sell.
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They said that Friday.
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Yes, biblical prophecy is being fulfilled.
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Again.
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The church won't say a damn word because they're going to take Facebook currency.
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It's all there's going to be.
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That's right.
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One ring to rule them all and in the darkness bind them.
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Nice.
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You want to be in the new world order, folks?
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You're going to be in it.
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That's just one small stacky.
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When I said 20 stacks, one, two, three, four, five, six, seven, eight, nine, 10, 11, 12,
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13, 14, 15, 16, 17, 18, 19, 20, 21, 22, 23, 24, 25, 26, 27, 27 stacks.
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I don't exaggerate 27 stacks.
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Each one more insane as the quickening accelerates my chimney crickets.
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This point I have entered insane asylum land.
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He doesn't get to those 27 stacks if you'd believe that.
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Yeah, it's pretty crazy.
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It's really nice of his staff to organize them in, you know, elevating insanity.
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Right.
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You know, you want to start your day off with real fairly normal.
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Yeah.
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Just a little weird.
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Yeah.
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Like, I don't know, chipmunk surfboards.
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Hey, that's great.
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That is nice memes.
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That's insane.
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That is nuts.
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And then by the end of it, Facebook has a currency.
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Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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I think I'm going to go ahead and side with Alex on this one, though.
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Quite frankly, big picture.
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Cut it out, Facebook.
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Yeah, I know, right?
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What are you doing?
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I read that headline and I was like, oh, for fuck's sakes, you assholes, go away.
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Yeah, it's one of those things where it's like, hey, this is stupid and terrible,
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but I think me and Alex might be able to find some common ground on this one in terms of
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very strongly being against Facebook as a cryptocurrency.
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Yeah, the only people who want Facebook to have a cryptocurrency
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work at Facebook and are named Mark Zuckerberg.
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Yeah, it seems like something that could go bad pretty easily.
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Yeah.
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So enjoy, Alex.
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I still think you're going to do this poorly, but fight that noble fight.
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No, I think we should all team up.
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Yeah.
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So there's another trend that goes throughout these here episodes, and that is
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what I would describe as a more overt gesturing towards white supremacy.
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And I know that we have no bones about the fact that Alex comes from a white supremacist,
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white nationalist, white identitarian place, but some of the things he says in these episodes
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and some of the things that his guests say are profoundly disgusting.
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And in this next clip, he's talking to the guy who runs Europe Wars, which is the offshoot
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in Europe of Infowars, Dan Lyman, the delicious lemon-lime flavor of Lyman.
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Lyman.
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Yeah.
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So Dan Lyman's on, and he has some thoughts about African immigrants and...
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No, he should not.
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It's not.
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I don't want to hear him.
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I wouldn't say this is a win.
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Okay.
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And on top of that, especially with a lot of the African migrants, they do have a lot
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they do repopulate very quickly and very fast and very healthily.
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So, I mean, we're looking at just a total demographic wave, a dominance of the Western
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countries.
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And when the folks are brought in, they politically have a chip on their shoulder, they're taught
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to hate America, they're taught the Democrats are your God, and they're tribal, they understand
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they get in that tribe.
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The tribe takes care of me, I take care of them, and there's an incredible swagger of
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arrogance.
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Minnesota, the new ruling class is Somalis.
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So that's, I mean, it's tough to hear something like that and not just think like, oh, you're
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showing cards there.
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Yeah, that's too much.
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These Africans that come in breed very healthily.
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That is crazy.
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Before you know it, they're everywhere.
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Not least of which because in this country, the maternal death rate for black women is
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insanely high compared to white women.
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That sort of language is the way you describe like infestations.
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That's not...
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That's...
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They come here and they breed.
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Done.
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You're a racist.
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Fuck off.
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I would say so.
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Yeah.
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So it shouldn't surprise you at all that Alex has found a new social media home.
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Oh, no.
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Now, I didn't get time to play this because I went off on a jag about Telegram, but it's
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T.me.
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And there's a whole bunch of platforms popping up to counter Twitter and Facebook and Google
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and all of it.
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I think Paul's up like 50,000 on there, Tommy Robinson even more.
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I haven't plugged it on the show, but the easiest things go to infowars.com.
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Up at the top of the site, right there, you can click on that little blue triangle under
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the listen now, and it will take you there where you can sign up and follow us there.
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It's got video.
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It's got a lot of other great functions.
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So hopefully you'll join.
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And really what it is is a paper airplane, a lot better than a little bird.
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Oh, it doesn't spy on you.
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What?
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It's not politically correct.
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We really like it.
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No, I know, but it's still wrong.
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Oh, ladies and gentlemen, the big plug for Telegram, which I did kind of screwed up way
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because I wasn't planning it.
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I keep planning to plan it, and I never get around to planning it.
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So it's better to go off half-cocked than never go off.
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Don't you agree?
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No.
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Better to blast the enemy with torpedoes even if you miss.
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It still makes for nice fireworks off in the distance, maybe you blow up a fishing boat
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or something.
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I'm being sarcastic.
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Good sarcasm.
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The only thing that's really interesting about that is that it took Alex this long to figure
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out that there are social media networks that he can go to.
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I know he's had Andrew Torba, the guy who runs Gab on the show before, and they've talked
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about how he's on Gab, but telegrams where a lot of these other folks have ended up,
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like Milo Yiannopoulos over there.
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I think it's interesting because I think Alex is trying to spread tendrils because I think
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he's in a panic.
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I think that the events of the last week have really driven home to him, left to his own
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devices he is dead in the water because the whole child pornography thing is, I mean it's
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not, it's a horrible crime, but it's a benign thing from his end.
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He is the victim in this.
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Right.
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Right.
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He's legitimately the victim, yes.
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Someone sent him this, the FBI checked it out and was like, oh, obviously this is the
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case.
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Yeah.
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Whatever, you're fine.
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Yeah.
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But because Alex is such a reactionary, insane, rage-filled monster, he ended up getting on
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air and started screaming about this guy, and he's created a world of hurt for himself.
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Left to his own devices, that's how he will behave.
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Right.
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Even if his lawyer is next to him.
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Right.
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He's going to completely destroy what he's got.
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So in order to compensate for that, he knows he needs more because he needs to be able
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to destroy some of it and still survive.
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So you get on telegram, all right, cool, let's plug my telegram on the show.
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Great.
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Man, isn't that sad?
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Yeah, it's very sad.
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So he goes along.
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The 17th, I'm going to say, isn't a great show.
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There's not a whole lot there.
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So we're breezing through a bit of this just because some of it is sort of setting the
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scene, some of these desperation feelings, some of these desires to get into new social
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media spaces, some of the white supremacy.
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Some of these trends are important because they build.
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But Left to Its Own Devices, I got to stop using that expression, by the way.
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Left to His Own Devices?
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That's what I'm saying.
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Yeah.
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All on its own.
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I don't think the 17th is a show worth covering.
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It's fine for the beginning of this episode.
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Right, right.
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But I would say maybe the only thing that's really great about it is that Alex takes some
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calls.
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Okay.
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And he gets prank called.
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Sham and Justin and everybody you've been holding patiently, thanks for calling.
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Sham in Arizona, what do you think's happening?
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Alex.
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Yes, sir.
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Before I get to my point of we're overdue for American Chernobyl, I want to call you
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out as a coward.
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You are a coward not to allow this one listener to come on and express his opinion about the
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rapture, Bible, Dan, he deserved to come on the show.
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Hold on, put the guy on hold, but sir, you are Bible, Dan.
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Bible Dan.
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Play that for me one more time.
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But sir, you are Bible Dan.
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Oh man.
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This guy does call in a bit.
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He always wants to argue pre and post-trib rapture.
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That's so fun.
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Yeah.
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That's so fun.
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I don't know why Alex let him talk so long.
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How did he not recognize?
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Like, he called us all the time.
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There's something pretty charming about Bible Dan, pretending to be Sam.
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There's something great about calling into a show and being like, you're a coward because
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you won't talk to me.
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I'm on the show right now though.
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It's fun.
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Yeah.
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So that is fun.
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It's not all fun because towards the end of this episode here on the 17th, Alex says something
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that is overtly violent.
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This is on the scale of like, yeah, he shouldn't say this.
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And Trump must get control of the government.
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It's not his fault they're traitors and criminals, but he must take action against them.
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The people that have done this need to be identified and they need to get in big trouble
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now.
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They know what they've got secrets, they'll bring them out with all these bad things.
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Look, the Pentagon knows what to deal with people like this.
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Kayak accidents.
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We'll be right back.
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Seriously, kayak.
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They all need to take swims tonight.
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Compliment.
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So wait, is that godfather shit right there?
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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Basically.
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Take him out on the, take him out on the lake.
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You know, maybe only one of them come back.
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No big deal.
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Hey.
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Yeah.
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I mean, no bones about it.
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He is literally calling for the deaths of his political enemies.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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And I mean, one of the people he was specifically talking about is John Bolton.
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And as much as I hate John Bolton, I still don't think that you should be able, you shouldn't
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behave like that on a, on a national radio show.
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No, probably not.
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That's irresponsible.
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Yeah.
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You should call for him to be tried for his war crimes.
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Sure.
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Yeah.
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That's a, that seems like a more legal way to go about things.
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Yeah.
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That sounds great.
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Yeah.
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So, you know, he's in this, he's in this real fucked up head space and you know, there's,
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it's clear, it's clearly affecting him.
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But on Monday, I don't think he'd gotten all the news about like his sanctions and the,
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the blowback from his Friday show.
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Right.
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He feels like, all right, I did that crazy nonsense on Friday.
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And then I got back with Norm and I had walked it back to a hundred thousand.
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I made the deal legal.
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Right.
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We're all good.
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No one.
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Yeah.
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And I would even venture to say that I don't think he's seen that Connecticut Post article
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on Monday.
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Even though it came out on Monday.
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Right.
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Probably came out while he was on air or something like that.
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But it's a relatively small paper, right?
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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It's not like, it's not like a nationally syndicated paper.
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No, but it did get a lot of traction after it got released, like promoted or whatever.
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It went all around social media.
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It was sensational enough to go, unfortunately, he's not on social media, so maybe that would
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slow down.
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Oh, that's true.
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Well, he's on telegram, but I don't think they're sharing that one too much.
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Probably not.
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So when we jump back in here on the 18th, he clearly has heard about it.
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And while where he goes isn't good.
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Yeah, I do think that he's starting from the kind of a fair position.
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Ladies and gentlemen, it's Tuesday, June 18th, two thousand and nineteen, one of the top
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news stories in the United States, not just here, but also in Europe, is the headline
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of headlines.
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The fake news coup de gras, the fake news finale, in my view.
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But it'll only get worse, obviously.
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They've reached new heights.
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Alex Jones sent child porn to Sandy Hook families.
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Boy, that'd be a better idea to commit suicide than to do that, wouldn't it?
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And then I mean, yeah, hundreds of articles, both the local papers here in central Texas,
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San Antonio, Austin, American statesmen, front page.
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Alex Jones sent child porn.
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To the Sandy Hook families, total lie.
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That's after dozens of publications over the weekend reported that we were the victims
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of someone sending hidden, coded child porn embedded in an email that had nothing to do
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with sex or anything else that was never opened.
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So the part that is fair here is, again, this this headline sort of I don't know what you'd
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even call it, insinuation, the mislead, you know, technically not.
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But yes, it is.
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Yeah, it's the same game Alex plays, though, with misleading headlines all the time.
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Yeah, it's hard to feel too much empathy for him based on the fact that this is his whole
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career.
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Right.
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Is misleading people with headlines.
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Yeah.
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When you see somebody lying atop their own petard, you're kind of like, well, you know,
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you get one, you lose one.
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Right.
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It's hard to it's hard to be like, oh, man, you're getting a raw deal.
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But at the same time, as external observers who try to be overly fair about this, it is.
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Yeah, it is.
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It's bullshit.
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You could see how that headline is misleading.
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Yeah, of course.
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It's a lawyer, Colin, Alex Jones sent child porn to Sandy Hook attorneys.
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Right.
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Right, right, right.
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And, you know, that is what the lawyer is putting forth.
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And technically in discovery, he sent those emails over.
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Right.
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So it's.
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It's true and it's false.
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Right.
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Yeah.
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I would never have written that headline because it allows Alex to do this.
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Yeah, I would never have allowed that headline to if I was editing that paper, I would never
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have been like, yeah, this sounds good.
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Well, it's a you know, it's it's kind of a really interesting thing, because by writing
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that headline, you probably got way more visibility on your on your publication.
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You probably got way more traffic than you would have with a more restrained headline.
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Right, right, right.
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I can think of somebody else who uses that very same tactic to get way more traffic.
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And is this name Alex Jones?
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It sounds very similar.
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That platform and that kind of strategy, that sounds very familiar to me.
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Right.
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And that's where the struggle comes in for me, is that like, OK, I don't know.
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I can't pretend to understand exactly what the Connecticut Post had their motivations
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were, whether or not it's like, yeah, that's a fine headline, whatever, kick it out the
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door or like, oh, this is people are going to be interested in this article based on
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the way we phrase this headline.
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But assuming that it is in interest of some sensationalism or some salacious element,
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I feel similarly to it that I do.
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Like it's if it's the same trick being used, it doesn't matter that it's being used against
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Alex or by Alex.
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Right.
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It's a manipulative trick.
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Right.
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I'm very conflicted about it.
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I think it's bad then again on the list of things that I'm like allocating a lot of energy
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towards.
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That one's way down at the bottom.
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I think it's more frustrating for us from like a personal standpoint of like, God damn
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it, guys.
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We've done everything possible to do not that, even though we've spent 300 odd episodes doing
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it.
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We tackle all our episodes with a date.
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Yeah, exactly.
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We make it the opposite of sensational or salacious and we do try to listen to our show.
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Good job.
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And then you guys pull that bullshit and then everybody says this and nobody even asked
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us.
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I think that's the thing that bothers me most.
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Somebody should have asked us.
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That can bother you.
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That doesn't bother me that much.
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I know no one will ever really think of us as a primary resource.
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Come on.
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I'm conflicted on the one hand of like understanding, like, eh, kind of get what you're doing.
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And then on the other hand, the other part of my brain that's just like, guys, stop it.
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Yeah.
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Stop.
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Right.
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You're giving him material.
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Like there's a way to express all of this and at the same time not play into his hands.
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I guess what I'm saying is I could do it if I were running the Connecticut Post.
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I could have navigated this minefield, but I'm also glad that I'm not in that position.
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I think the way that we talked about it after we tried and failed to record that audio book
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was you can't play his game because he's been playing it for 20 years and you're just now
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starting to do it.
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Yeah.
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He's got you.
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But, you know, if you're going to come heckle me from a crowd, you're fighting not against
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me.
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You're fighting every heckler that I've dealt with over 10 years or whatever, like consumed
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their strength.
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Yeah.
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You don't you don't have anything.
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You're not going to come up with anything.
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So stay out of my game, you know, maybe on a lucky day.
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Yeah.
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Yeah, it could be.
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You have an off day.
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It's a great right.
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Right.
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But it's luck.
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It's got to be a good one.
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Yeah.
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It's not a good strategy.
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And neither is this.
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Like the idea of playing sensationalism with Alex is generally going to be a losing proposition
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for you.
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And that's the nature of like mixing it up with a propagandist.
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Yeah.
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You don't want to do it.
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The only way to win is not to play.
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Now, that being said, Alex is in real trouble because what he did is very much close to
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threatening his opposing counsel.
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I would say it was that.
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I would say without question it was that.
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Right.
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I think he will try and I know he will because of later clips.
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He'll try to wiggle around like I wasn't threatening anybody and then maybe you can get off on
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a technicality.
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But what he was doing in earnest and in reality was threatening Chris Maddie.
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Yeah.
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That is what he was doing.
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And whether or not that will end up biasing the court against him, whether or not it will
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come up in his legal troubles and make things much harder for him is left to be seen.
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Because of those sanctions, which I guess he's appealing, but I'm sure he's going to
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end up losing that.
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Yeah, for sure.
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But because of those sanctions, he has to pay more.
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He has to pay attorneys fees.
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Not for the entire case, but for a portion of it.
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So that is an additional expense.
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One of his motions to dismiss the case was thrown out too.
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So there are consequences to this.
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And I think Alex realizes that I got myself in that trouble.
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Whether he's able to vocalize it, whether he's able to help people understand this is
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my fault.
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I freaked out on air.
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And I screamed about this guy for no reason at all and insinuated that he had sent me
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illegal pornography.
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In this next clip, I just hear him being like, I'm in trouble and I have to do whatever I
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can to make sure I don't do this again.
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I have agonized in the last six months coming to you with this message because I don't like
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to let the enemy know they're hurting us.
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But there comes a time in a war when you're winning the war, but as a battalion or a platoon
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or an army, you're losing and you've got to call for reinforcements, you've got to call
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for help.
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There's a lot of things people don't know about behind the scenes.
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It's been rough.
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And sometimes I do melt down.
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Sometimes I've subconsciously shuttered rage in it like a volcano comes out.
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And that only happens every once in a while.
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And I've told the crew when that happens from now on, we just go to rebroadcast.
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That's a default position.
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So he's had to tell his staff that when I fucking get like that, turn this off.
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And that's indicative to me of like, I cannot control myself.
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I am going to sink my own ship.
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I need help.
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I mean, more or less.
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That is exactly what he's saying.
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I need help from the button.
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Yeah.
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The off button.
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So if you are doing your job and you have to order other people to stop you, you need
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help.
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Right.
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Not just from them.
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Right.
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You know?
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And in the middle of this episode, Alex gets a text from Norm, who is in Connecticut, who
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is in trials or in court.
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It's regarding this motion that they put because of his Friday episode.
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And guess what?
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After he gets that text, he goes through rebroadcast.
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You know, I read that text and it's just, you are space fucked.
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It was a really interesting text.
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Yeah.
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I mean, it's weird to have him say, like, whenever I freak out, I told them automatically
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go to rebroadcast.
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And then like an hour and a half later, it's like, I heard this before.
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No shit.
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Yeah.
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Wait.
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Is this?
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Oh, no.
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Is this last Thursday's episode?
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What's going on here?
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And some of that might've just been, he needed to deal with the text.
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He wasn't actually freaking out, but whatever.
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It's just weird.
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That's what I was surprised by earlier on in the episode, even on the Monday one, because
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I had speculated on our last episode that him having this bullshit attack on him should
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have made him overjoyed because this is something where he can really say, I think he was on
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Friday.
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I think he was too.
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And now he is bombed.
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Well because his joy, he flew too close to the sun.
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His anger took him to a place that is legally actionable.
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Whereas before he was in smooth sailing, he could have created a fun contest out of this
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and gotten a lot of publicity out of playing the victim, which he would have been right
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to do.
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He was the victim in that case.
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Granted, maybe he was overdoing it a little, but whatever.
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Well, not just a little.
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He's a showman.
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Yeah.
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I agree.
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I agree.
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I think that his feelings have transformed greatly over the weekend into now like, fuck.
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This is like...
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And who knows how much those legal fees were.
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This is like Borgia level blunders here.
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That just could have been so good and now it's worse than ever.
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Unforced errors coming into play.
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Like I said, I don't know how much the legal fees were that he got hit with, but it could
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have been a substantial amount.
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It could have been more than the $15,000 he had to pay off the Pepe case, quite frankly.
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I have no idea.
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What an ass.
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Well, because...
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Yeah, I don't know.
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I wonder, because Norm said on Friday's episode that they paid that data firm like $100,000
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to go over the emails.
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If he had to pay legal fees for this portion of the investigation, that might have been.
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But again, that's coming from Norm, who knows how accurate that number is, or even if that's
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what he had to pay.
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But the point is, it could be any number, any amount.
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It could be a lot or it could be really fucked.
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So anyway, in this next clip, Alex is talking more about this headline from the Connecticut
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Post.
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And again, in the same way that I feel, I think he has a kernel of being right and then
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a whole pound of being wrong.
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The headline is, Jones sent documents out of the clear blue sky to these poor Sandy
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Ho parents.
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That wasn't the headline.
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According to the lawyers, one of them is a former federal prosecutor, a Democrat, of
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course.
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Of course.
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And they have been taking this material and taking it to the FBI.
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From our sources, we're getting it ready for the news.
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I'm not saying they planted the email.
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I'm saying somebody planted it.
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We're going to find out who they are.
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But I am angry at those individuals, but not physically when I make statements about whoever
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planted it.
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And I say, I want to see their head on the pike that is figurative.
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And I have no record of ever attacking anybody offensively or any criminal record.
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We do.
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But nevertheless, they're in court right now calling for all sorts of sanctions on me and
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they're trying to get criminal charges against me and all the rest of it.
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It's all a badge of honor.
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OK.
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It's all a badge of honor.
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I've done none of what they've said.
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It's all a fraud.
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It's all a lie.
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And they know it.
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So I think that this trying to repackage the threat is probably a desperation move.
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Yeah, that's pretty funny.
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Because if anybody heard what he did on Friday and just had a normal human understanding
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of language, you would very clearly understand.
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He was heavily implying that Chris Matti and the opposing counsel for the people who were
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suing him and Sandy Hook were the people who planted it.
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That is not up for grabs.
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When Norm Patis, his lawyer, was on the show, he even was saying, Alex, you're showing Chris
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Matti's image.
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I was like, I'm not implying anything.
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His lawyer was even being like, you're implying that this.
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Yeah.
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He might as well put the guy's picture on the wall on top of a fucking shooting sheet
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and then stabbed it repeatedly and been like, this is how I feel.
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He probably did after the show.
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Yeah, that's right.
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That's probably true.
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I mean, that's a damning document, that Friday show, because of his own behavior and because
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of how Norm responded to him.
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He was saying exactly what people's accusations are, quite frankly.
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He was trying to steer Alex away from going too far with it.
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Maybe he did.
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Maybe he got it out of the territory where it would be like, you are going to get this
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case thrown out and be held in contempt or whatever.
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It's really hard for Alex to, with a straight face, sit here and say, look, I just wanted
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his head on a pike.
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That's a metaphor.
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Yeah.
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I was being figurative.
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Figurative.
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I've never attacked anybody physically.
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Right.
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So, no matter what, even if he is now trying to make the argument that like, I wasn't saying
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that the people who are suing me put that porn in my email, he does still think that
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there's a conspiracy.
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Of course.
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Well, of course.
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We've had 2.6 million emails since Sandy Hook, all of them.
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We fought them to the expense of $100,000 in legal fees just for that, to not give them
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all your emails.
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She wanted 57,000, the judge did.
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Then they wanted the metadata, all that weird squiggly stuff that nobody can read.
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That was then gone over and they found what was in those links, those links that were
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named something else on there.
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So we got out ahead of it.
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And we said, the FBI told us that we were the victim and the media ran with the truth
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and then somebody up higher said, we can't have this.
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Put out the headline, Jones sent child porn to the Sandy Hook families.
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So he's implying now that there's even like a more broad conspiracy about this because
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there's like the event and he believes that there was a set up.
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And then he thinks that like people reported on it well and then the globalists are like,
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no, no, no, no, no.
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You didn't do it right.
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You didn't do it right.
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We cannot allow people to have any idea that Alex Jones might be the victim of something.
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We must crush.
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I think this is a insane way to deal with stuff.
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Yeah, that's not good.
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I think I could probably say that on just about every episode, but.
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Also guess what?
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We get another movie reference there because I guarantee he's talking about the Matrix.
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When he's talking about metadata, all that weird little squiggly stuff that you can't
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read.
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Guarantee he's talking about the Matrix.
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Yeah, because I wouldn't describe metadata as squiggly stuff.
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No.
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You might be right.
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You might be right.
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It can be expressed as squiggly stuff, but squiggly stuff is a very broad and vague definition.
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Yeah.
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So when Alex is making the argument that he was set up with the emails, one of the things
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that he uses to argue that is the idea that the court told him he should be aware of what
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he's turning over to people.
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When you're giving things over for discovery, it's generally.
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It's a good idea to know what you're giving them.
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It's best practices to be aware.
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You don't want to be surprised by discovery in court.
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What?
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Whoa.
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Oh, my God, there's a spreadsheet where I have all of my Sandy Hook money listed off.
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Oh, boy.
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Should have known about that ahead of time.
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That's bad.
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But Alex thinks that people telling him he should have been aware of that is proof that
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they wanted him to open the emails so he would have looked at the porn.
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Ooh, that is an interesting way of thinking about it after the fact.
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Yeah.
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Oh, does it tell you that we never opened it and that the lawyers specifically asked
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for it and then had to scan it to find the secret links or that they wanted the court
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to order us to open all attachments and give us all attachments ordering us to go through
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all our emails.
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And open attachments when we don't do that.
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And I told Norm Pattison, I told them all Norm's a good guy, and I said, Norm, Norm,
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they already know there's something in there that we don't know about.
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This is parallel construction.
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I said, you watch.
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He was here the week before this happened.
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I said, they're not winning these cases.
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And I said, we're getting diverted by these.
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We're getting manipulated.
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We're winning these cases too easily.
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These aren't the sabotage traps.
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So he seems to think that he's winning all of these cases.
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And so in order to derail the case, I mean, he's still saying that they did it.
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Yeah.
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100%.
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Yeah.
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But parallel construction using fun words.
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He's so all over the place in terms of like, I'm not saying I'm saying I'm not, Hey, hold
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on.
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I kind of am saying that.
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I'm going to give him five points for spin on this one.
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I think he's doing a fairly good job of turning.
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I didn't read any of the shit that I gave to them into see how smart I am for not reading
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any of the shit I gave to them.
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It is a good save.
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That's not bad.
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Yeah.
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That's not bad.
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If I had hired a real lawyer, we would have committed a crime.
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Not so stupid for hiring a barn, interesting, incompetent, like a Fox.
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This next clip reinforces my argument that I think Alex is in a really terrible place.
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We had that clip earlier where he's saying, you know, we're, we're in real trouble.
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We need to get the, uh, the armies coming around.
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Um, and in this next clip, Alex predicts his own death.
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If I get carjacked at a four way stopper, get killed or whatever.
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I'm still a winner, but remember after I'm dead, they're going to try to demonize me
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further.
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And it's that name.
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They want to capture a news for evil.
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Please defend my name after I'm gone.
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Give that happens.
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And I think there's a good chance I'll be gone in about a year.
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We'll be right back.
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Stay with us.
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That's a tough out to break.
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There's a good chance.
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I'll be dead in a year.
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All right.
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We'll be back.
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We'll be back.
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I can tell the audio guy was here to do that.
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That music got real loud.
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Ramp it up.
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Whoa boy.
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Yeah.
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I mean, what would you, what would you do if my boss is just screaming on air?
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Earlier in the show.
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I'm going to die in a year.
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It's look, remember me fondly earlier in the show, he said, if I would get weird, hit the
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button.
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I would use that as like carte blanche to just start getting the cough button.
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Re-broadcast Alex, you're prophesying your own death.
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Re-broadcast who has the true power now, Alex.
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So here on the 18th, we get a, what I would describe as a boringly regular guest is his
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lawyer on again.
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Yes.
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There we go.
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I want to bring Robert Barnes on the show, constitutional lawyer, civil rights lawyer,
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very successful free speech lawyer.
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He represents me on a bunch of cases.
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The Democrats and their operatives have brought the Sandy hook cases in Texas.
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Norm Pat is also a very competent top lawyer representing me in Connecticut.
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He's in court right now where they're trying to claim that I threatened violence against
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their lawyers, which wasn't true.
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I said, I'd like to see whoever sent us the child porn's head on the pike.
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That's a figurative statement.
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You know, like if I catch the, you know, my son sneaking the car out again, I'm going
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to kill him.
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But they're up there trying to haul me up to Connecticut, make me be there for depositions
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in the courthouse.
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Like I'm a criminal, all of this for the theater of the media.
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It's all for the theater of the media.
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Oh, that's true.
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He's going to have to be brought back to Connecticut to give a deposition on what they have on
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video.
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Aren't they?
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He has to, from what I understand, the last I read, he has a deposition that he has to
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give on July 1st.
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So I believe he does have to go to Connecticut for that.
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But then I believe the trial itself would be next year.
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I still think the trial is a ways off.
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OK.
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If I might be misremembering that, but I swear I read something about them setting
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a date and it's like in November 2020.
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I might be completely off on that.
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And if I am, I apologize.
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But yeah, I mean, of course, like it's going to be a ridiculous spectacle.
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The people who are running this trial, they have their hands full.
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They will need to, I don't know if you can like put everyone in isolation, but you need
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to.
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I mean, I don't think that, boy, it really does seem like this case should be held in
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like on a different island somewhere where no one, no media, no nothing.
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Record all of it.
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The jury is a fucking 12 birds.
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Like there are no human beings should be involved with this.
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Record all of it, but don't tell anyone about what happened until it's over.
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Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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That would be the way I do it.
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So there's no shenanigans.
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Simple bachelor rules.
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There's no shenanigans.
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But at the same time, no one should be able to interfere with this because it's ripe.
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Oh, it's not going to be fun.
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Yeah.
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So it's a very severe time here on the June 17th, 18th, excuse me.
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And Alex comes in for break with some terrifying noises that he plays very often.
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And in this clip, he pretends he never plays these sorts of noises.
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He needs to play them now to let you know how serious things are.
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Now, I've never aired stuff like this in my 25 years, but it's time for air raid sirens.
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It's time for marching feet.
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It's time for barking dogs.
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Never played that.
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Because this is tyranny.
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He plays air raid sirens a lot.
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All the time.
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So that's just fun.
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That's good presentation.
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In this next clip, he talks about the Connecticut paper and their arguably misleading headline.
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And what's interesting about this is that one of the criticisms that we have about Alex,
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I think we've even brought this up already on this show, is that he engages with news
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and with media on a headline level.
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He doesn't read articles.
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He only knows maybe a sentence and the headline and then it's like, that's the fact.
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Whatever it is is the fact.
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In this next clip, he projects that onto everybody else, which I think is a rationalization for
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why he does what he does.
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But this just ends up, it makes it sound like he thinks everyone's stupid.
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There's just so much happening.
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And then meanwhile, the Wall Street Journal, the New York Times, others are putting out
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headlines behind paywalls where it just says Alex Jones sent child born to Sandy Hook families,
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but you can't read it.
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And then little bitty at the bottom of every one of these articles that I saw on the San
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Antonio Express News, the Austin American Statesman, it says the FBI says that emails
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were sent to Jones and that he had never opened them, that he's the victim.
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But they do it at the bottom, knowing full well in conscious, organized fraud that almost
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no one reads the whole article that people, most people over half just look at headlines
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now, around 75% only read a paragraph or two.
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And maybe 25%, depending on the paper or the demographic, actually read the whole article.
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You have no faith in your audience if that's the position you're giving.
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I mean, like if the article is fair and factually reporting things, then I don't know.
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I have little patience for this, but it's what Alex's entire argument is.
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I do find one thing that he said very interesting, which is the articles behind a paywall and
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the way that their headlines operate.
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That does interest me because if you're talking about a headline like Alex Jones sends child
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born to and you're talking about it from the New York Times or the Post, you can't read
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that.
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That is bullshit.
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I did not consider that whatsoever.
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I agree with that.
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I agree with that.
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If those were the only places covering it, I can't imagine someone seeing that headline,
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not being able to read the article and not hunting down another article they could read
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with the same primary reporting.
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I can.
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His name is Alex Jones.
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Right.
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I do think it would be a surprising number of people also.
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Right.
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It's that whole thing of the second step and most people don't take the second step.
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Possibly.
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I also think like, I mean, there's a hundred articles I've never read because they're on
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the Washington Post.
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For sure.
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I still know what they say because I found another article.
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Yeah.
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That's on the person who's receiving the information.
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It's unfortunate that the New York Times and Washington Post business model are that way.
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I understand why.
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Yeah, of course.
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But I don't know.
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If they were the only fucking news outlets, then this would be a good argument.
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Of course.
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But I don't think it is.
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Oh, no, no, no.
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I'm not presenting his argument by any stretch.
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I'm just saying that I had not considered that as a side effect for somebody who just
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scrolls through Google News headlines and sees that maybe everybody's headline is very...
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I agree on that level.
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You know?
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Yeah.
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And that's why you don't name articles like this.
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Right.
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Exactly.
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Because there is too much of the scroll through effect or whatever.
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You see the headline, you internalize whatever it says as fact as opposed to getting the
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story.
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I'm guilty of that in the past.
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I try to be more aware of it now, but like, yeah, absolutely.
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I think people are susceptible to just like, don't need to read that.
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Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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Well, everybody has done the whole Facebook thing where they share an article after only
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reading a couple of paragraphs and they didn't read the whole thing.
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Sure.
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You know?
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Yeah.
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It happens.
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So in this next clip, there's some insults flying around about this Connecticut paper.
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And then Mark Twain gets quoted.
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But it appears that the media just conjured this up on its own and originated with the
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Connecticut Post.
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The Connecticut Post is a second-tier publication.
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It's not considered a serious publication in Connecticut.
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That was drawn all the way back to when I went to school in Connecticut.
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And so the idea that anyone would pay attention to the Connecticut Post when the Hartford
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Current had already reported days before what the actual situation was is what put all these
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big newspapers and big media and big influential social media celebrities on notice that they
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had easy note, definitely the biggest institutional press.
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There's simply no excuse whatsoever for The New York Times to run that headline when they
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know that the Hartford Current, the only respected publication, and it's still a liberal publication,
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but a much more respected publication, had already had already debunked this days before.
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So for them to run it, they used it as a pre-bunted excuse.
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They needed some local publication to print some headline that they could then piggyback
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off of so they could repeat the lie and have the lie spread around the world before the
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truth could get its pants on.
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And that's precisely what the institutional press did.
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In fact, I was going to start the broadcast today to say that a lie goes halfway around
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the world for the truth to put its pants on Mark Twain.
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You got brass balls, Alex.
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So I mean, whatever.
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The thing that bums me out, the thing that bothers me is that like most of the information
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is the same of those stories that came out on Friday from The Daily Beast and other publications
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reporting on Alex's broadcast and the ones that were reporting on Monday just with a
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different headline.
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It's the same information just from a slightly different angle.
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Alex is, I am the victim of a conspiracy where someone sent me a legal pornography that was
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discovered by these lawyers and the FBI say I'm cool.
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And on Monday, the other thing is these lawyers are like, hey, in this batch of discovery
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information that got sent over, Alex sent over illegal pornography.
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We went over it and there's no indication that he meant to or that he viewed it or anything
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like that.
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It's the same information just presented slightly differently with the headline.
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It's just, it's annoying on one level and then I understand that it's also probably
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annoying as our show that it's just constantly him and Barnes and Alex and Alex and Alex
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repeating that over and over again.
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But I did that intentionally because I think it is annoying and it's important to know
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that this is what's being driven into his audience's mind.
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But it's not as important as what the point behind it is.
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And Barnes says that out loud in this next clip.
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The other point I think broadly is this, that everybody's now having to ask the question.
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Given that this was a complete fabrication by the most powerful institutional press in
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our country and in the world about you and Sandy Hook, what other lies have been told
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about you or you and Sandy Hook or you in general over the past five years?
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Let's talk about what this means as a big picture with Robert Barnes.
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Your calls are coming up.
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So this...
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An unironic good work, Barnes.
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This is what it's all about.
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It's the idea of creating plausible, reasonable doubt or something like that in the court
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of public opinion.
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The idea of this headline was misleading.
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Now, the information wasn't inaccurate, but the headline, they're defaming you in the
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headline.
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Now, if you take that that's all fake, how much do you really know about Alex?
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Everything's probably a lie.
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He's not even a conspiracy theorist.
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Right, right, right.
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No, this is the joy that should have come on Friday.
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This is what he would have fucking dined out on forever if he hadn't have fucking threatened
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the lawyer.
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Barnes is coming up here just like, man, man, man, man, try and lay low for a few days and
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then I'll bring it back in, I'll slam it home.
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I have no ethics.
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I mean, this is why you pay Barnes.
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Yeah, this is why you pay Barnes.
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That's synthesizing this in a way that Alex couldn't have possibly reached.
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Nope.
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And it's so manipulative.
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It's so fucking awesome in terms of, like I hate it, it's the worst, but it's pretty
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impressive.
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But this is what the manipulation is about deep down.
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This is what it is, creating the idea that you don't know shit about Alex Jones.
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You just know what the MSM writes in headlines.
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You probably think he lives in Austin.
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He doesn't actually.
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I don't know.
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I'm trying to come up with absurd examples of like blow your mind facts about Alex.
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But it's just, that's all it is.
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It's a distraction.
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It's very intentional.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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Barnes has a lot of My Cousin Vinny in him on this of just like, I'll throw anything
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at the wall.
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I'll wear a weird suit.
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Fuck it.
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Yeah.
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But yeah, I don't think this is going to help at all legally, but it's very good for retaining
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the audience.
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For business.
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Yeah.
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So in this next clip, Alex makes an announcement about another sort of social media thing that
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he is on.
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And this led me down a rabbit hole that was kind of interesting.
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That's the evil of these individuals, but you can overpower them.
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So subscribe star.com forward slash Alex Jones document cam shot.
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There you go.
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Subscribe star.com forward slash Alex Jones.
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Please go there.
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Even if it's $5 a month, that'll be added because listen, if I sell $100,000 with a
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product, but it's on sale and we only make $15,000 or $20,000 that doesn't fund something
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like this operation, but if something on subscribe star where I get 95% of it, that's real money
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that I know that when you subscribe, you can cancel any time that I can budget to hire
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people and do things and pay for gas for an RV, for reporters to drive around the country
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and, and you know, cheap hotel rooms and hire more people.
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This is the fight we're in.
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You don't need a hotel room and an RV.
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That's a, that's silly.
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That's excessive.
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You know, sometimes you need a, you need a good bed.
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Yeah.
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So this is a, this is another piece of the like a announcing really publicly.
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I'm on telegram, but this is another one to subscribe star.
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What is that?
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So on this episode, Alex is increasingly talking about being in really bad financial straits
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on all three of these episodes.
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He's doing so many goddamn commercials.
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The ads are flying around like insane.
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It's nuts.
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And he's even started a save info wars emergency sale where everything in store is half off.
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Everything has free shipping and double Patriot points.
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No way.
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That's bad news.
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It looks bad.
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This is not good.
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He needs cash fast.
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This is not good.
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Perhaps even worse than all that is this news that he's decided to join a crowdfunding website.
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That's for people like us who don't pretend for a second to be successful and who advertisers
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have no interest in.
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It's not for the alleged king of ratings.
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The biggest thing in the world like Alex Jones presents himself to be.
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Subscribe star is the Patreon for people who are too big of assholes to be on Patreon.
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You might find people like Sargon of Akkad there, that variety of folk.
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I'm sure there are some other people who use the site who aren't crazy racist fuckhead
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lunatics, but as best I can tell, it's most prominent in people's consciousness because
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it's become the home for people who've been kicked off other crowdfunding websites because
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they're too big of assholes.
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It just says all you need to know about who's running it.
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I don't know.
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I actually don't know that.
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I wouldn't be surprised, but I don't know enough about it to say.
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I would imagine that at least they turn a blind eye to it, these assholes.
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I understand why people like Sargon would try to rebuild their crowdfunding on a new
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platform because it's all he's got.
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He's someone who's in desperate need of a way to monetize his free speech con that he's
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operating and if this is the place that happens, that makes sense.
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Alex Jones has a million dollar studio.
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He's presumably a news operation.
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It's very unbecoming for him to use a crowdfunding website to run his shit.
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It's like when Zach Braff used Indiegogo to make a movie.
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It just doesn't feel like the proper use of the platform.
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Anyway, I decided to check in on Alex's Subscribestar account and things don't look great for him
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over there.
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The account has been active since at least May 15th, 2019 and as of this Thursday, he
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has only 129 people subscribing to him.
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His page has only been shared on social media 112 times.
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This is almost non-existent engagement, especially when you consider how large he pretends his
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audience is.
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He claims he has millions upon millions of listeners and right now, Alex is all over
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the cultural zeitgeist awareness.
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All of his fans would be very, very aware that he is in the middle of a legal battle,
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that he is saying without people's support, his days are numbered.
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He said he's going to be dead in a year if things go this way.
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And yet, all these millions of people, out of them, 129 have answered the call to action.
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They're probably already on auto-ship, though.
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You don't know that?
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That's true.
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Ben Garrison has a Subscribestar account and he has 33 donors.
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Owen Schroyer has 53, Jordan Peterson has 65, Mark Dice is coming in with a hot 36,
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Stefan Molyneux has 27, and Laura Loomer's got 29 people on board.
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Shit, Subscribestar itself has a Subscribestar account and they only have 22 subscribers.
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Only 22 people are signed up to support the platform that they're on.
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They all work for Subscribestar.
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Perhaps.
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Given those numbers, you might be inclined to say, well, that website clearly has 130
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people on it.
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You know?
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Yeah, it does seem like-
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You have the idea that it's like, eh, no one's on there, so-
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Right, it's not Patreon.
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It's like, hey, okay, Owen Schroyer's got 53 people, but if that's out of 130, that's
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a huge percentage, right?
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Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
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Well, I have bad news, because there are some people who are doing pretty well on there.
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Paul Joseph Watson has 1,992 subscribers and Sargon has something around 3,000.
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What's interesting about that is that their existence proves that success is possible
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on that platform and there are more people than are subscribing to these other people.
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What's interesting there is they kind of demonstrate that Patreon doesn't have a monopoly.
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Because of their success, they disprove the very idea of their assumed victimhood.
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Because Sargon of Akkad and Paul Joseph Watson have found ways to make this really work,
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they prove that none of these other people who are listed are in any way the victims
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of some sort of a tech monopoly or anything like that.
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If they had active, engaged fan bases like Sargon and Paul Joseph Watson did, they would
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probably be able to rise to the same level, and they just don't.
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Yeah, that's not surprising.
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Yep, it's interesting.
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The victimhood narrative of these fellow travelers of Sargon and Paul Joseph Watson is heavily
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punctured by their own success.
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They have really demonstrated that all those arguments are silly.
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Yeah.
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On the other hand, it does make sense for Sargon to have such a huge following because
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it's really all he has.
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So he has to pimp that out quite a bit more, whereas Alex, I doubt anybody even really
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noticed that he had a subscribed star until recently, because he's more pushing his products.
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This episode is on Tuesday, and he's promoting it heavily.
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Right.
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Oh, he is.
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Yeah.
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And we're talking, even now, there's still, ooh, that's not good.
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At least two days later from when that episode aired.
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That's not good.
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No.
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I mean, 129 people supporting is great.
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I mean, again, I come from a land of expecting nothing.
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For sure.
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So 129 people isn't something to sneeze at.
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You do a comedy show, 129 people show up to a bar, it's pretty fucking amazing.
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Pretty fucking amazing.
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But not if you have millions of fans and it's digital.
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Right.
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129 people show up to a theater, very different than 129 people in a bar.
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Right.
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But if you're in Malaney and 129 people show up, it's a big bummer.
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Real problem.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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If it's me, that's great.
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100%.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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So it's real interesting to me, this sort of thing.
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It leads me to have some pretty serious suspicions about the size of his audience.
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Yeah.
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We could be in punching down territory very quickly.
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I don't know.
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It's one of those things that's a stray piece of information that you would expect to be
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very different if the reality as presented by Alex were true.
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Yeah.
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I don't know what to do with that information.
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Got to look for more context clues.
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But in this next clip, Alex drives home the point that Norm has made, not Norm, Barnes
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has made about this, the idea is calling into question everything you know about Alex.
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You think you know, you have no idea, to quote MTV.
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And then they read the substance of the articles, those that had access to it, most people didn't,
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but those that did realize, oh my goodness, the entire thing is fake.
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It's entirely fake news.
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The headline is fake news.
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It's totally false.
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This is someone who is the victim that they're trying to portray as a perpetrator.
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It was completely insane and absurd, the level at which they went.
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And when people realize that, it then raised questions.
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Because what you had been pointing out, what Infowars had been pointing out, what various
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members of the dissident press had been pointing out, is this is exactly what they've been
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doing for years and decades.
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They've been doing it not only for you, they've been doing it about anybody in the
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independent space who raises questions about whether it's bogus wars or bogus politics
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or illicit activity being covered up by those in places of institutional power, willing
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to challenge and question establishment narratives that often do more harm than good.
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Those attributes that now people have to rethink everything they've previously thought.
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So you have people on the left thinking, wow, if I could completely buy into a totally false
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headline shared by all these institutional members of the press, shared by some of the
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biggest, most well-respected members of the institutional press, and I was completely
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taken for a ride by it, what else might I have been wrong about?
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What else about Alex Jones might I have wronged?
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Bingo!
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Let's come back with the coup d'etat.
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So I apologize.
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I thought that Alex expressed that.
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I didn't realize it was just Barnes saying it again.
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But that's why this distinction is really important.
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The headline is technically correct.
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The idea that the Connecticut Post has lied about Alex isn't fair.
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It's all about the insinuation.
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They're responding to what is in people's minds as opposed to what the Connecticut Post
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actually did.
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And that distinction is very important.
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Yeah.
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I have a newfound respect for Barnes.
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He is not in a good way.
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I just mean, right now he sounds exactly like a movie evil lawyer.
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Like he is hamming up his part really, really well, whereas previously I thought he was
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just kind of a bloviating idiot.
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Well he is that too.
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He is that too, right.
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But I thought he was just that.
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It's nice to know that there are multiple facets to his criminal behavior.
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I mean I've heard hours of him rambling with Alex, and this is one of the first times that
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I'm like, smooth Barnes, smooth.
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Yeah, because this is, as far as spin goes, this is pretty good.
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I do still think it's trying to claim victory from the jaws of defeat a bit in terms of
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this like, all right, they made a vaguely misleading, potentially misleading headline
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about you.
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Now, how do we spin that into everything you've ever said is actually accurate and everyone
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lies about you?
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Can we bridge that gap?
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What if we take this little thread and make a big giant tapestry of bullshit out of it?
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It's a big swing.
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So in this next clip we get off all this stuff, Barnes leaves, Alex says we're going to come
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back with a coup de grace.
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There's no coup de grace.
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No, that doesn't sound right.
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But Alex wants to start covering the news.
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Okay.
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And although Roger Stone was on not too long ago and he said that Michelle Obama is going
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to come out of nowhere and be the Democratic candidate.
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It does sound like she is.
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Alex is still focused on Joe Biden.
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Ah, what a fool.
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And Joe had a little comment recently and Alex is making hay out of it.
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But let's get back to the threats of violence in your phone calls.
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Here's Joe Biden advocates real physical revolution to push through his political agenda.
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Talk about dog whistles, baby.
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This is one you can hear.
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That's a declaration of physical war.
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Here it is.
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And so, folks, look, if you start off with an ocean, there's nothing you can do.
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Well, why don't y'all go home then, man, or let's start a real physical revolution if
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you're talking about it, because we have to be able to change what we're doing within
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our system.
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So you see that cut off real quick campaign.
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Yeah, that did cut off real quick.
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And that Soros funded.
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And that's the radical communist part.
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So first of all, I have zero interest in defending Joe Biden.
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But here's there's something particularly hilarious about Alex going on and on about
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the media dishonestly characterizing his situation vis-a-vis the Sandy Hook lawsuit, then immediately
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proceeding to dishonestly characterize Joe Biden's statements.
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I don't understand where there's a problem here.
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It's very...
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I don't understand the problem.
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It's jarring.
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It's almost like he edited that clip and took it out of context.
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I think someone else did, and he just was like, oh, good clip.
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Yeah.
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Probably.
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He doesn't do any work.
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Fair enough.
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So Biden was specifically saying, let's start a real physical revolution as an example of
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something that we weren't going to do and something that was a bad idea.
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It was in the context of him explaining that there's a whole lot of negotiating that could
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be done with the GOP and that we need to change what we do specifically while doing it, quote,
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within our system, right where that clip cut out.
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Saying let's start a real physical revolution is almost an insult coming out of Biden's
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mouth.
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He might as well have said it while doing a jerk off motion.
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That is exactly what he might as well have done.
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Yes.
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That's exactly...
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When I read that headline, I was like, yeah, he's doing one of these.
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All right.
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Joe Biden was giving a strong defense of compromising with the GOP, and this is how it's covered
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by someone like Alex Jones, as if he were triggering a literal communist violent revolution.
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Yeah.
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This is a perfect case in point of why you can't win with propagandists.
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They will go on for an hour about how they're the victim of the deceptive media, and then
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without missing a beat, they switch into this being that same deceptive media, just targeting
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the person that their audience wants them to go after.
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It's hypocrisy on one level, but more accurately, it's a profound level of psychological abuse
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to subject anyone who trusts you to.
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Two completely separate realities are created just by editing that clip.
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People who see Biden's full comments will see a guy who, for better or worse, probably
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worse, is endorsing compromise and working within the system.
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The people who see the right-wing smear version, like the one Alex just played and presented
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that way, will think the lamest of all candidates of the Democratic field is an out-and-out
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radical just waiting to let loose his shock troops to the streets.
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This separation of folks is all Alex has ever really achieved in his life, and it is a sad
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waste.
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And it's all the more ironic coming from Biden's comments of, we need to reach across the aisle
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and work with these people.
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Totally.
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You know, hey, yeah, we need to reach across the aisle and work with the guy who literally
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just cut you saying that banal, incorrect statement and turned it into propaganda about
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how you are trying to kill them.
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Right.
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You're not going to reach across the aisle, Biden.
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There's an even more interesting dynamic to it, too, that it's like no one's calling for
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a violent revolution, but that's how Joe Biden is characterizing the farther-left people,
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as if that is a violent revolution.
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So he's mischaracterizing the actual, like, left.
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Yeah.
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Everyone.
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Everyone but AOC is doing a bad job here.
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And in his mischaracterization, it is then further mischaracterized by Alex to imply
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that Joe Biden is the violent communist uprising.
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It's there's there's.
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Yeah.
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Isn't that it's just the same shit from the Obama years of like there.
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It doesn't matter how hard you try and craft the Obamacare as a compromise.
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It doesn't matter.
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They are going to call you a violent, evil socialist.
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The road must be twisted.
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Yeah.
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For some reason.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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It's very unpleasant.
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Yeah.
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That's the only piece of advice that I want to give every one of these people like.
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And it's it's really only Warren and Sanders who are like, just fucking lean into it, man.
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Say what you think is the right thing to do and don't give a fuck what they're going to
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call it.
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Yeah.
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Because they're just going to call it something.
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It doesn't matter.
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Biden is out there calling for a violent revolution.
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We've established that.
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Yeah.
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Well, it's his style.
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So now, when this violent revolution comes, I mean, you've got to be worried about the
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Patriots.
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You've got to be worried about Alex's gun weirdo buddy.
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Do we?
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I think you should.
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Probably.
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But you don't need to.
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Oh, OK.
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That's nice.
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Because the globalists have found a way to paralyze them.
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And they're going to try to paralyze people fighting back if we go to a hot revolution
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by saying you're racist because they've tried to make it along racial lines so that minorities
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who are the majority in most areas don't feel like they could be part of Americana.
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They inflict the sun really wound on them that to be successful and have freedom and
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own a gun and to be happy is white and is evil and has to get its systems shut down.
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So again, I want to be very, very, very, very clear with everybody.
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I want to be very, very clear with everybody about all of this.
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We're going into the season of war.
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And they have been inches from shutting down the final bank accounts we have through their
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criminal activity and their and their digital fraud.
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And we need to know that we've got capital to go six months a year.
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We need it in here.
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We need to be provisioned.
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We broadcast.
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We need money.
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We broadcast.
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No, that's exactly what you want.
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No, that's not no.
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That's not crazy.
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Jesus.
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That's an ad.
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Hey, Joe Biden's going to start a hot revolution and then, you know, they're going to paralyze
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all my buddies by calling us racists when then I'm going to say something kind of racist.
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Oh, insanely racist.
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And it's that should be a crime.
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What he just did right there should be a crime like blaming the globalists for characterizing
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all of this shit as white and saying that that's why the minorities don't get it.
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As opposed to it being a perpetrate action that is perpetrated on a daily basis by you
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and your ilk.
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You have an interesting perspective.
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That's disgusting.
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Yeah.
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That is so fucking great.
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That's that should be a crime.
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That's so gross.
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File that in the sort of white identity, white supremacist trend on this episode.
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Wow.
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It's going to get way worse.
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So in this next clip, Alex pretends that he is going to to sue the Connecticut Post.
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Sure.
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Which is just file that in the list of the idle threats that Alex makes about lawcraft.
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Barnes hits the cash register one more time.
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And we know how this works.
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We know who to sue.
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It's the Connecticut Post.
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They're the ones that put out the big disinformation statements that then the rest of the media
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picks up and then the judge, whether she's ignorant or whatever, goes with it as if it
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came out of the mouth of God.
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That's not a good idea to insult the judge.
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And so they're there saying that I offered a million dollars for the head of this lawyer.
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When I said there's a reward for who sent us the child porn and we don't know who it
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is, and it's clear that I'm mad at them because of the discovery process, but I'm not calling
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for violence against them.
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But that doesn't matter.
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They clip and they paste and they manipulate and they go in because, again, I'm the bad
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guy.
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Look at this headline.
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Judge says apology from Alex Jones's lawyer insanity case hook falls short.
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So what does it say again?
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Oh, I'm sorry.
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And then it goes to say that I said the families did it.
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They always hide behind the families.
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I never said the families sent that in.
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I said the lawyer sent that.
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I said it's very, very suspicious.
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And I said, I'm going to find out who did it.
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I'd love to see their head on a pike.
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It's a figure of speech.
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It's a figure of speech.
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OK.
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All right.
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We're good then.
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I think everybody's good.
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I think that anybody who got the message or the idea that the families reset to the families,
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that's misreading of stuff.
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But I understand why he would be sensitive about that appearance, because that would
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be a profoundly fucked up thing.
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Oh, yeah.
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That'd be insane.
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And so if people were accusing him of that, like if the paper was actually saying that,
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I would understand responding very poorly to that.
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That would be...
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But they weren't.
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They weren't liable.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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He probably could sue them.
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Yeah.
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He could sue them if they did that.
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As it stands.
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Can't sue.
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I don't think there's a lawsuit here.
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No.
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So in this next clip, we get more information about that idea that he didn't threaten this
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lawyer, Chris Matti.
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And I don't think this works.
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I think this would be tough to argue, not on a radio show.
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The Connecticut Post, they said I was talking about this Matti guy because his article was
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sitting there and I was banging the table and his face was on the table.
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Give me a break.
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I bang the table when my face is on it.
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Does that mean I'm going to get Alex Jones?
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Give me a break.
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Give me a break.
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Let's hear that again from Friday's show, exactly how he did this, just to show how
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much of a fucking bullshit artist he is.
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The point is that somebody directed child pornography into your email accounts, hoping
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that you would open it so that when you opened it, there would be direct evidence that you
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had viewed knowingly and possessed child porn.
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And then now magically they want metadata out of hundreds of thousands of emails they
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got and they know right where to go.
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What a nice group of Democrats.
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How surprising.
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What nice people.
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Chris Matti.
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Chris Matti.
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Let's zoom in on Chris Matti.
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Oh, nice little Chris Matti.
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What a good American.
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What a good boy.
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You think you'll put on me what you want me to put on you.
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Anyways, I'm done.
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Total war.
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Yeah, I mean, this picture just happened to be on the I mean, this is complete bullshit
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that anyone would say and he's targeting him or implying that he's the person who's responsible
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for it's bullshit.
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He literally stopped himself from saying, I'm going to kill him.
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Yeah.
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He could get maybe, but it did sound more like a K. Yeah.
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He got a K. It's I wouldn't yeah, I wouldn't die on that hill, but it does sound more like
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probably kill.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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I'm going to lean towards that one.
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Yeah.
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Because this is bullshit.
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The idea that like, oh, the article just happened to be on camera.
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Also you are going to kill Alex Jones, Alex.
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This to me is indicative of how serious he realizes this is.
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Oh yeah.
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Like he really needs to try and dance away from the, I was implying that the opposing
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counsel should be killed for a million dollars.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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I don't know how much of that to be the case because otherwise like he is, he's a nut.
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I don't know how else to put it.
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He's crazy.
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And unfortunately he's crazy cause he did that shit.
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You know, sometimes just saying the truth could be really, really funny.
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Yeah.
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I mean he has to desperately fight back against reality cause reality is bleak.
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Oh, and it's coming to get him.
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Yeah.
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So in this next clip, Alex retells what happened on Friday on his Friday show.
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And in this new retelling, he didn't think the lawyers or Chris Maddy was behind it.
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It was the globalists.
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No, I mean, I legitimately got mad Friday.
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It was the fourth hour.
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I've been arguing with these French reporters and I just kind of conflate and mix everything
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together.
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I know I'm mad at them persecuting me and I'm mad whoever planted it.
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I think it's suspicious that they went in and found all these hidden links and they're
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trying to spin it.
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You know, like, like I knew what was going off, what email somebody sent me that we never
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opened.
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So I just blow up and I say, whoever has done this, I want to, I want to get you busted.
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You know, big reward.
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I want to see your head on a pike.
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That's figurative.
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And because of the nature of the fact that they're losing these suits and everything
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they say, is it true?
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They're like, ah, Bonanza now we'll misrepresent this, but it's all going to come out.
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They're trying to get me charged for emails that I was sent about Sandy hook death, threatening
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me that I never opened that had hidden links in them that they then found.
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I think they're scared, not these particular lawyers, but the whole system that whoever
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did sentence is part of the establishment.
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And look, it's a hundred thousand dollar reward because the legal way to do it is you can't
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say a hundred thousand for arrest, a million for reward because then people might say testimony
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that isn't true for the conviction doesn't have a million dollars extra laying around
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here.
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So I was mad.
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I was, I was, I was wild.
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I, you know, so I mean like that, that's, that's cockamamie nonsense, but I listening
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to that, I think I, here's what I theorize is what's going on with him right now through
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that.
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He has had it clearly explained to him the consequences for what he did, but he cannot
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comprehend what he did on Friday's show.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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He's had it explained to him clearly, but he can't actually comprehend what he did.
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That was wrong.
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He has to like, this isn't him spinning it.
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I don't think, I think he genuinely believes that they are doing that they planted the
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child porn or whatever, and that's what they're doing with everything else.
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He doesn't understand.
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I agree with you that he still thinks that the people who are trying to, because he thinks
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that the fucking Hillary Clinton's running the law firm that's suing him.
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Right.
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But I don't know if he really thinks that one.
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I think he has to.
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I just don't know.
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It's, I don't know what he believes is going on at any given point in time.
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Yeah.
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One of the difficulties is like, he's nuts, but like what, what level?
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Yeah.
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I mean, how delusional is he?
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Yeah.
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You know?
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Yeah.
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And that's a difficult line to figure out exactly.
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That's a really opportunistic spin.
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I don't know.
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But if you just go based on the things he says, he believes that Hillary Clinton and
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the globalists are behind the law firms that are suing him to try and take him down.
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So even if he shifts it from, I don't believe it's these lawyers, but it's part of the establishment,
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that's still the people who are suing him.
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So it doesn't change anything about his conspiracy of victimization.
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That is fun that even if he is apologizing or trying to deflect blame back to the globalist,
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he's already called them globalists.
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There's no, there's no escape here that doesn't make anything better.
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Let me just rephrase things.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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So, but there is one party that does get the blame and maybe accurately so, and that is
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these goddamn French people.
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What did the French people do?
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Well, if you'll recall on our Monday episode going over his Friday episode, he does bring
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up, God damn it, these French people are there.
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He does.
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I thought he was arguing with them.
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I didn't either.
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I just thought it was the weirdest non sequitur on a Friday's episode that was hilarious that
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he had led a French crew in there that he regretted them being there and hated.
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Yeah.
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It turns out he got into an argument with them and he talks a little bit more about
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that and blames them for him blowing up on air.
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Of course.
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It was too much.
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These French, and I love French people, but the smarmy ones, the leftist ones, the anti-gun
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ones, you know, creeping around here that I hadn't really even greenlighted being here.
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And then Norm's plane was late, so he wasn't here with them.
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And I just blew up and I blew up with them too, because you'll get to my face later.
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That video is up on him, fullwars.com.
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And at just a certain point, they're liars.
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They said they weren't coming here for what they said.
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I have their emails.
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So I kept just making the joke, go back to your Islamic caliphate of France.
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Good joke.
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They're all just shut-offs, ladies and gentlemen.
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There's Norm, finally got there late, his plane was delayed.
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And so I blew up with them and then I go blow up on air, because it's like, once you light
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the fuse, man, once the volcano goes off, you know, that's the end of it.
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You need help.
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Yeah.
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That's being like a really rage-filled person.
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Yeah.
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That's somebody who needs psychiatric care.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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Or yoga.
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Yeah.
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I don't know.
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Any number of things.
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Something.
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Let's send Dallas Page.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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If he could fucking fix Scott Hall up, he could help Alex.
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I think that would be great.
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DDP does miracles.
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Oh my God.
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Let's start this.
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Let's send Alex a bunch of DDP yoga DVDs.
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I'm fine with that.
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What if?
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That would be crazy if that like really turned him around.
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That would be fun.
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That's a big get for you, DDP.
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Yeah.
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If you're listening.
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I know that we have some wrestling fans in the audience, but I don't know if Dallas Page
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listens.
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Got a request, got a request, got a request, got a request, got a request, help Alex.
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Because it's tough, man.
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He already predicted his own death earlier.
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And now in this next clip, he talks very fatalistically a lot of the time.
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But this is one of the instances where I really feel like this feels like a real concern of
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his.
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I have a plan.
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We're going to have guest hosted people, but also we're going to have round table listeners
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every day that get to co-host part of the show and the rest of it, because I am having
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to prepare for no longer being on the air.
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I don't want to have to get to that point, but we've put in a hell of a fight against
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the enemy and I tend to be here another 10 years.
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But this is dark, dark days, folks, and people don't know what's going on behind the scenes
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and things.
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I can't really fill you in.
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But thank you so much, sir.
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I appreciate your call.
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So I think that is in line with your idea of like he does understand the severity of
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the situation.
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Yeah.
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But he can't.
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Yeah.
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He can't commit responsibility.
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But there is a feeling that like this might be this might be about it.
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Yeah.
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This might be the one, huh?
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Because think about it.
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If we're like far off from the actual trial and he's freaking out like this about something
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that he is right about the like the idea of these emails being sent to him.
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Yeah.
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What the fuck is he going to do on the stand?
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What the fuck is he going to do as the trial date gets closer?
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Like the amount of pressure that he's in abstractly now is going to intensify.
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Like I think I think on some level what you hear there, I have to prepare for not being
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on the air is a sense of like, I got to take myself out of the game, maybe.
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Pretty much.
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I don't know.
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I feel I feel a real...
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If he's if he's asking people to take him to rebroadcast because he can't trust himself
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on the air, that means that there have to be people who are like, hey, maybe you shouldn't
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be on the air.
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Yeah.
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Maybe you shouldn't be on the air, period.
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Maybe those people that we've rightly pointed the finger at for not stopping him have finally
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been like, we got to sit you down and be like, Alex, this is gone too far.
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Yeah.
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Maybe.
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I don't know.
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Interesting.
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That'll be a transition.
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So now that Connecticut Post article with the misleading headline was bad, I think,
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or at least it was unproductive.
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It was they didn't do anything wrong and necessarily, but it's that kind of coverage of Alex that
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I think is awful.
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Unfortunately, later in the day, on June 18th, Alex gets exactly what he needs.
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And that is someone does write a false headline about no, God damn it.
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Is it The Onion?
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I am now experiencing only President Trump has experienced or only what a nation about
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to be invaded, that's being lied about his experience.
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Headlines are coming in by the minute that are complete lie.
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Ladies and gentlemen, the top Twitter story in trending and also when you search my name
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is father of Sandy Hook victim wins defamation lawsuit against Alex Jones.
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He goes on to say, I wrote a book called Nobody Died at Sandy Hook.
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Ladies and gentlemen, that is totally insane.
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No one's won a lawsuit.
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They got the name wrong.
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I did not write that book.
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God damn it.
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So what ended up happening here, and Alex is going to, we're going to hear him talk
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about this a little bit more.
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He's arguing that the Associated Press put out that article about him and that they're
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defaming him as saying that he wrote this book that was written by James Fetzer.
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And that, because the Sandy Hook, I believe it was just Posner, I'm not entirely sure.
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There might've been more families, but they did win a case against the writers of that
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book.
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Yeah, I read that one.
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And so...
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Not the book.
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No.
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The Associated Press article is about that, is about that case that the families won.
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Now, Market Watch reposted the article.
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And they misattributed the...
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The headline was rewritten, and then in the sub-headline, it says, Alex Jones is a conspiracy
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theorist and wrote the book, Rowan Died at Sandy Hook.
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Completely fucked up, totally wrong.
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The body of the article is exactly the same as the Associated Press.
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They just rewrote the headline and did the worst job possible.
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And I don't know how this is possible, but while I was preparing this episode, Thursday
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morning, I checked, that article is still up on Market Watch.
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That can't be real.
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That is nuts.
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That it still says Alex Jones on it?
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You bet.
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No way.
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Yeah.
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And nobody is correct?
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And I think that there's a reason why, and we'll get to that here in a little bit.
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But Alex thinks that the globalists wrote this story as a magical act.
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Okay.
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It's lesser magic.
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That sounds right.
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Who's there?
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I think they're doing, what they believe in is like this weird Harry Potter magic because
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they're into the occult.
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They call it lesser magic.
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They believe if they say I lose lawsuits, it makes it happen because people then just
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believe I'm already convicted.
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Next level.
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Get Barnes on.
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I know Watson's taken over.
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Patus is in court right now, where the judge is trying to figure out how to put me in jail.
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Get me Robert Barnes.
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He was just on.
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He was there.
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He was just on the show.
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Jesus.
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You're going to get double-billed.
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But yeah, I don't think it's magic.
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I think it's just a shitty editor over at Market Watch, which isn't too surprising.
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Market Watch has had a lot, not a lot maybe, but I definitely run into some dubious stuff
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over there in my Alex Jones research.
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Various topics he covers.
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And he uses them as a source fairly regularly.
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So I don't know.
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I think it's just a huge fuck up on whoever was editing Market Watch.
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And unacceptable, unbelievably boneheaded.
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I don't know how else to put it.
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You just gave Alex exactly what he needs.
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If I were Alex, I would say that they were working with Alex.
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How do you justify your victimhood and that the media is lying about you?
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Well, get one example of the media lying about you and then say hundreds of articles have
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the same headline.
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Right.
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I don't know if it's that, but I am guessing that he is not shooting out cease and desists
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to market market watch if it's still up there.
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Well, we'll get to that.
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Which kind of suggests he is totally cool with it being up there.
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Well, we'll get to what they do once we get to the 19th because they don't follow the
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right path on this one.
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But before we get to that, we have one more clip from the 18th and it's just Alex sort
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of freaking out.
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And then I say, I'm suspicious of this.
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There's a big reward out and they say, oh, my God, boy, we'll teach you Texans will teach
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you dirty dogs, a good trick.
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You think your big mouth leader is going to take our power, never good, good, good, good.
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That's great reason then, man, these people are unbelievable.
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They're just starting to one up each other.
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Well, let's say he lost a lawsuit.
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Yeah.
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Let's say you wrote a book.
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Yeah, that'll be good.
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Yeah.
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Let's say he wrote a book as an insult to him.
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It's just market watch, man.
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I mean, it's not like, hey, I wouldn't put up with that either, but like it's not everybody.
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It's just a fucking shitty headline on market watch.
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But one of the things and the reasons I wanted to play that clip was I think that people
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could very, I could see the audience or someone in the audience thinking that we think every
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time he freaks out, he's drunk.
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That was sober.
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Yeah, no, that was definitely not drunk.
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I just want to be clear that there is a very, there's a distinction between like his drunk
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behaviors and then just that.
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That's how he flips out performatively and just has a little freak out and does a little
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voice.
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It's very different.
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It's kind of strange to be so intimately familiar with somebody's quirks despite having never
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met them.
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Well, I mean, I think audio is such a, like an intimate medium.
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You can, you really get the sense for people's rhythms and patterns and stuff.
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I think, I think it's not, Alex, he's no different.
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Yeah, no, I think it's a common experience.
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You know, everybody does it with their, their own podcasts.
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You listen to somebody's voice for so long, you think you already know.
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Yep.
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Well, we get to the 19th now and on the evening of the 18th, Trump had his rally in Orlando.
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Yes, where he told all kinds of true things.
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Oh my God, he was...
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So true.
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All the, all the truths.
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I can't wait for him to defeat Hillary in 2016.
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God, it's going to be amazing.
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So you know, he had his rally and Alex starts the show with just a bunch of clips from the
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rally and then Alex starts talking about how Trump is a throwback.
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That said though, Trump is 73 now and he comes from a very conservative family and by that
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very old fashioned, his father and mother, and Trump's a dinosaur.
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Now that's a good thing.
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It's good to have a throwback because you know, the old fashioned system he follows
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is the vanguard of Western culture.
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The system we have now is a corrupt, collapsing leftist system, a cancer from within.
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So if you take that, it's hard to square that with like, you know, Trump's dad's ideas about
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eugenics, a lot of those other elements of his life.
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He's a real throwback to Herbert Hoover, Dan.
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Well, he's like, Alex is expressing that he's a throwback to like the good part of America.
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And if you hear that, you have to either assume that Alex doesn't know anything or he does.
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And the throwback to the good part of America is the part where Trump said that the Central
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Park Five should be executed.
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And I think that's what he's saying.
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I'm pretty sure it is, yes.
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So also at this period, there's a lot of talk about whether or not the camps where people
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are being sent, these immigrants, whether they're concentration camps or not.
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I have no patience for this argument.
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I hate everyone.
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I think Alex is probably the worst angle on it.
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Oh, yeah.
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Oh, I didn't even consider what Alex's angle would be.
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Well, now top Democrats are coming out with official talking points on MSNBC and CNN.
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We're going to play those after the break, saying that it's all a giant concentration
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camp.
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Let me explain something to the leftist who I know know they're lying.
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How do you tell before their lips even move?
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You know, they're of their father, the devil, figuratively and archetypally and in reality
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as well to get into a concentration camp.
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You don't fight to get into a country that's bad.
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So I mean, we got it.
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OK.
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What?
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Hey, cool.
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That's that's it.
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That's what he's got.
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Yeah, man.
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I like it.
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Definitely.
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People are trying to immigrate here.
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Ergo, whatever happens to them is exactly what they wanted to happen.
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I think I prefer that argument to the other conservative people trying to split hairs
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over fucking connotation.
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I think that when you start to look at it a little bit more, it falls apart.
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Oh, no, no, no.
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It makes no sense.
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Well, because I mean, like, let's say start killing people and immigration doesn't stop
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while they must want to be killed.
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Exactly.
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Yeah.
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No, it's stupid.
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Very stupid.
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Insane.
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But it's dumb in a way that I prefer.
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Sure.
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I mean, it's still just justifying something atrocious.
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So in this next clip, this is maybe a miked down clip, because I think this is one of
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the closest things we've come to Alex like expressing overt white supremacy being masked
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as the West is the best kind of ideas.
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I think that you could you could make a pretty strong argument that this is even though Alex
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does say it's not about skin color.
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Sure.
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Sure.
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Sure.
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Sure.
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I still think you can make a pretty strong argument this is about white supremacy.
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I also think you can make a really strong argument that this is about Christianity versus
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Islam.
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OK.
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But at the same time, whatever it is, it's my team is superior to your team.
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And it's very blunt.
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It's the West that ended slavery.
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It's the West that went in and taught people in Africa to stop eating themselves.
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Because we were doing it to a thousand years before.
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But Christianity changed that and then due process and rule of law changed all that.
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And the fourth hour today, I'm going to be hosting I'm going to get into the rule of
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law and why it's so important and why the West is committing suicide and may be too
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far gone.
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But we can still have pockets of the West and the West is ideas and culture, not color.
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But if you don't celebrate it and admit its superiority, you will be destroyed by the
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systems that are in theory.
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We all must recognize systems that are superior or be destroyed.
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That's so fucked up.
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Also, did he just advocate for a new Rhodesia?
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I think he always has been.
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Yeah, well, that's fair.
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Yeah.
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Somebody Bob Chapman used to live there.
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He loved it.
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He loved it.
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Yeah.
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Great.
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It's like a summer camp.
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Jordan.
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That's white nationalist as shit.
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He's calling people savages, Christian.
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Well, I mean, white supremacists really like to just make up their own history.
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Yeah.
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Love it.
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They are big fans.
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Yeah.
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The piece that I really find the most troubling is actually the part where he says it's not
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about color, because he then immediately says that, like, you have to recognize that the
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West system is the superior system and celebrate it or be destroyed.
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Right.
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Right.
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Right.
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So if you look, you could you can hang around if you're any color or anything, but if you
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don't recognize that our Western system, which is white, is the superior system, you've got
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to be a white supremacist, even if you're Mexican or black or.
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Yep.
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Yes.
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You got to understand that there's a hierarchy, Dan, and they truly believe that it's that's
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that's a troubling thing to hear expressed so openly.
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Yeah.
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By Alex.
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Yeah.
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That's a man.
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And it doesn't even make it doesn't even rank for him.
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America was not ready for a black president.
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It doesn't even rank in terms of like the trouble he has.
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No, I know.
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This might be the best time for him to go full on.
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Yeah.
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Like, because no one's going to notice.
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No.
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He just starts throwing slurs around like everyone's like, we got too much to cover.
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Yeah.
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I don't know.
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So he gets back to this story here in this next clip, the one about the the Fetzer lawsuit
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that is being mischaracterized by Market Watch.
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Sure.
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Sure.
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So he talks about that a little bit.
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They say now I want that to sink in, want that to sink in real good.
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They made it the front story.
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The top of Yahoo for several hours, but the front page of Yahoo.
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All day.
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And in AP all over the country.
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And I wrote a book called Nobody Died at Sandy Hook that I've never read or touched.
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And then I lost a lawsuit.
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Ladies and gentlemen, what deception?
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This is the whole globalist plot right there.
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It's the only thing you can prove.
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Yeah.
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You know, like you've got to make this so important because it's like this is actually
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true.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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That that Market Watch did fuck up and make that the headline.
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I mean, it's really disappointing, all in all.
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But the thing that's still fucked up is that he's sort of implying that there's a conspiracy
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around pushing this one article that has a bad headline, when I don't think that I don't
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know that that was the that certainly wasn't the headline I saw popping up the most.
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And also, like, it implies that all of these things like the top of Yahoo and Twitter trends,
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they're all controlled by the same people who wanted to force this Market Watch headline
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out there.
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Yeah.
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I don't know.
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They are.
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And do you know, boy, it rhymes with ruse is who he thinks is doing it.
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Possibly.
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Jesus.
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So in this next clip, Owen Schroyer shows up to make a big announcement.
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And spoiler alert, it's that he's also on Subscribestar.
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OK, well, good for him.
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They talk a little bit about that Fetzer story and the bad Market Watch headline and really
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make a meal out of it.
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Owen Schroyer, who hosts the War Room three p.m. every day, is here with us riding shotgun
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in the next part of the segment, the next to announce something important.
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And I want to be very, very clear about all of this.
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Let me be clear.
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It's that he's on Subscribestar.
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OK.
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In the fight against the globalist, diversification and having many legs to a stool is critical.
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You know, they've been trying for years to shut down Infowars and really go into incredible
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lengths to do it.
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The latest huge hoax stories that I've lost, lawsuits, huge hoax stories that I'm sending
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child porn to people, just really dangerous stuff that signifies they're getting ready
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to try to physically remove Trump and all of his key supporters.
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They wouldn't be this reckless with the things they're currently doing if they weren't about
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to pull the trigger again, AP.
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It's still the top of Twitter show.
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We're talking 24 hours later.
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Please put it on screen for TV viewers.
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Twitter has the fake news story, Associated Press, father of Sandy Hook victim wins defamation
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lawsuit against Alex Jones.
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Alex Jones is the host of conspiracy driven Infowars website and wrote a book titled Nobody
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Died at Sandy Hook.
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So he's attributing this to the Associated Press, which is not correct.
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That is absolutely incorrect.
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And he's saying that it's an indication that Trump is about to be taken out, which I am
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so tired of hearing.
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Alex has said that literally any time anything looks a little bad for him, it's an indication
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that Trump is about to be taken out.
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He said it before Trump was inaugurated.
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Yeah.
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He said they're going to fly helicopters into the inauguration.
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Exactly.
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Because of COG.
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Yeah.
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Continuity.
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Haven't heard much about that lately.
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Haven't heard anything about COG recently.
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Curious.
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So in this next clip, it gets even more extreme in terms of what's going to happen because
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of this one headline being evidence of the tide.
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I'm going to say this again.
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Please put it on screen for TV viewers.
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Hit me.
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The top of Twitter since yesterday morning is a AP article that says that I wrote a book
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about Sandy Hook not happening and that I lost the lawsuit and that I'm involved in
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child porn.
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None of it is true, ladies and gentlemen.
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Now what does that mean?
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It means they may be getting ready to kill Trump within days.
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I'm telling you, they don't do stuff like that.
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We've called AP.
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I'm gonna say it again.
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I have had lawyers call AP and say, that is not our book.
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We did not lose a lawsuit.
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And they go, we've called up to higher ups.
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They just say it's staying up.
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But you know, it's not true.
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Jones didn't write this book.
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They go, we don't care.
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That's the way it is now.
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So I mean, this is next level, my friend.
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This is next level.
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So he's saying that he and his lawyers contacted the Associated Press when it's Market Watch's
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headline.
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There's nothing wrong with the Associated Press story.
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From what I looked at, it didn't seem like there was a correction on it, didn't seem
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like the story was updated, like they, you know, it's Market Watch.
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You don't contact the Associated Press to get them to fix some article that someone
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took from the Associated Press.
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You contact the outlet, and Alex doesn't want to do that because he wants the Market Watch
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headline to stay up, and he wants his cake and eat it too, to be able to say, we went
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there, we told them to take it down, and they said no.
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Yeah, that has to be it.
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100%.
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Otherwise, his lawyers are really, really stupid.
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This is a propaganda coup for him.
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This is a big win.
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Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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The idea that like, ah, they're doing this psy-op on me.
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He probably wants to do everything in his power to, first of all, not mention that it's
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a Market Watch headline, and second, make sure no one contacts Market Watch.
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Right, right, right, right.
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For sure.
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He wants his lawyers to contact the AP as a formality, and then bask in the victimhood
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of a poorly written headline.
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Either that or his lawyers are exactly like those dumb, dumb Christians who emailed Netflix
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to try and get Amazon's good omens canceled.
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That's just good strategy.
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Yeah.
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So Barnes is back here on the 19th.
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Of course he is.
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He's on every day.
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What is he doing?
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Ah, man, he is just raking it in.
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So in this clip, Alex misrepresents the nature of this being an Associated Press headline,
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and I guess it's implied from this that Barnes is the one who contacted the Associated Press,
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and because Barnes doesn't correct him, I'm pretty sure it's all a facade.
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Okay, we're about to go to break and come back with Robert Barnes.
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Bob, so much has happened, and I know you're going to have some updates for us on the other
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side, but first off, they're still running AP articles saying that I lost a lawsuit and
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that I wrote a book I didn't write.
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It's still the front of Twitter.
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That means this must be on purpose.
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The front of Twitter?
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No doubt.
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So no doubt.
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No doubt.
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No doubt.
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No doubt.
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Not a correction about, hey, Alex, it wasn't the Associated Press.
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You are misrepresenting that.
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It was Market Watch.
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No conversation of what is the front of Twitter.
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Yep.
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I think it's all charade, all a scam.
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Barnes is such a fucking scam lawyer.
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I cannot imagine-
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His tricks.
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I cannot imagine a more fucking uncouth lawyer.
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Yeah, he's-
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Unreal.
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Yeah.
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He's making his bucks today, though.
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The idea of allowing Alex to present it as like, my lawyer's called the Associated Press
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and they said, this is just the way it is now.
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Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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The fact that he doesn't be like, hey, Alex, you're implying that I called them and that's
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what I reported they told me.
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That's fucked up.
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No doubt, Alex.
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And that he's able to build that, if this is not true about Alex, all things are up
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for grabs.
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That's good work.
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So we have one last clip here from the 19th and it's Alex swinging real hard for the fences,
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trying to argue that he didn't say it was Chris Matti who sent him that stuff, even
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though he very, very heavily implied that it was.
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Me thinks they protest too much.
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I did not say Chris Matti was who sent it to me, but then the media said it was him
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and now he's bought into that narrative as the victim.
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Correct.
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Yes.
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And I think-
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Great work, Barnes.
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Great work, Barnes.
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Barnes is allowing Alex to push this.
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And I think a big part of it is like what we keep sort of dancing around a little bit
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and mentioning the idea that I think Alex realizes that if allowed to stand, the idea
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that I did what I did is so fucked up.
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So fucked up.
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The consequences of that could be so severe.
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And if someone had hurt Chris Matti, let's assume someone, I don't know, throws a rock
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through his window.
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Yeah.
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Something along those lines.
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Wow.
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We've never seen any Infowars fans get violent.
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Never.
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Never.
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And assuming that something like that could have happened, the consequences Alex could
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have faced would have been so serious.
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And let's not forget about the idea that the case about the Sandy Hook stuff is about people
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who harassed these families.
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The idea that he would be doing that to the lawyer might prejudice a court about like,
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oh, that seems to be what you do.
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You're trying to defend yourself that you didn't send people to harass these families.
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But in defending yourself, you're sending people to harass the lawyer who's defending
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those.
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See, that's what happens when you accuse me of sending people to harass people.
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The only way I can prove to you that I didn't is by doing it this time.
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I think he recognizes how fucked he is.
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If things don't go right, he's starting to prepare a little bit.
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It's interesting.
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The preparations are sort of threefold.
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One is publicly dipping his toe into the, I might be dead in a year.
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I have to prepare to get off air.
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I've told the staff to hit the cough button if I start freaking out.
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Those sorts of things.
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I have not heard those.
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I mean, some of the fatalistic, I'm going to be dead soon is for sure.
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But that was in a different way.
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When he's down, you hear that.
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But the other stuff, I don't know if I've heard him say like, I've had to tell people
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to save me from myself.
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Yeah, giving away any of his authority and saying so public seems bananas.
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It's very out of character.
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So that's the first prong of it.
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The second is intense ads and sales, like desperate sales and the crowd funding and
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all of his reporters getting on crowd funding stuff.
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That's not good.
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That seems pretty insane.
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Man, I halfway think that Barnes is trying to single white female him.
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He's just egging him on, just like, yeah, commit more crimes, commit more crimes.
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And he's going on the show every single day.
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You know what?
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I have a theory.
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It's really feeling like Barnes is just going to be like, hey man, you got to take some
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time off, but do you know who best can defend you publicly?
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I can.
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And I'll be hosting the first three hours for the next week.
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Alex does say he's getting ready to give Barnes a show.
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So you might be right.
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He might be trying to...
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Barnes is fucking people up, man.
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He might be trying to take over the operation.
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I think Barnes is the most evil person in this entire fucking story.
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He's sneakily trying to take over Infowars on behalf of his publication, Human Events.
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What a fucking monster.
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Genius.
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So that may be what's happening.
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I don't know.
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I find this very boring on one level, like his response.
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I think there's some flare ups that are kind of interesting.
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But in terms of this, it's like, this is like a real calm before something really bad.
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These trends do not go in a good direction.
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The overtness of some of this white nationalism is jarring and unpleasant.
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But then all the other just sort of lying and defending himself is par for the course.
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I think the only thing that's different about it than any other times is like, first of
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all, very rare for him to have a legitimate defense, like that Market Watch article and
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then the possibly misleading Connecticut Post headline that isn't inaccurate, just whatever.
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It's rare for him to have like, ah, decent points.
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And that's strange.
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And then it's also rare to really see what appears to be fear.
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Yeah, like that's exactly what I was thinking.
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Sincere fear.
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He really does it because he's not pulling the blustery like, I'll fight this in court
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till I die.
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This is the hill that I end on.
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This is like genuinely like I made a huge mistake.
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I had something.
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I never have something.
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I have nothing and I have turned nothing into a mountain of fucking gold.
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And the one time I am handed a layup, I turn it into a fucking nail in the coffin in the
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opposite direction.
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Yeah.
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God, that is such a disappointment.
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Mm hmm.
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Yep.
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You kind of feel it.
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He's going to be reliving that day for the rest of his life.
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Yep.
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So it's like that poker hand.
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Yeah.
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Fucked up.
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Yep.
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100 percent.
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And I am now getting out of the present, I think.
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On Monday, we will be back in the past because I am sick of this shit.
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Oh, hell yeah.
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I mean, so long as he doesn't crazy thing happening.
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If Barnes kills him, then we're going to have to cover Barnes's Infowars show and I'm not
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going to enjoy that.
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No, I promise this to the audience.
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We will not become a Robert Barnes podcast.
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That is not the direction this is going to go.
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I assure you of that.
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So before we get out of here, Jordan, I think we should say thank you to some more donors.
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I absolutely agree with you.
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All right.
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Let's let's do this first.
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Jim, you're now a policy wonk.
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Thank you.
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I'm a policy wonk.
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Thanks, Jim.
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Jim, me, Jimmy.
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Next, Robert.
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Thank you so much.
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You're now a policy wonk.
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I'm a policy wonk.
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Thank you, Robert.
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Thanks, Bob.
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Next, Seb.
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Not Gorka.
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Seb.
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Seb.
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You're now a policy wonk.
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I'm a policy wonk.
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Thank you, Seb.
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Thank you, Seb.
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Sebby.
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Next, Robert could be Barnes donating to our podcast just in the hopes of he's diversifying.
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He's donating to our podcast trying to take Alex in any way, take him down in any way
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he can.
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I don't I don't think it is, but if it is, we still appreciate it.
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Thanks, Barnes.
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Good work.
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Susanna.
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Thank you so much.
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You're now a policy wonk.
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I'm a policy wonk.
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Thank you, Susanna.
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Thanks, Susanna.
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Next, let's switch things up.
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What?
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Go with Nick.
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You're now a technocrat.
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I'm a policy wonk.
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Crikey, mate.
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That's fantastic.
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Have yourself a brew.
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How's your 401k doing, bro?
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All right, we got to go full tilt boogie on this, Watson, all right?
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Let's just get down to business.
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We ain't making that money off that heroin.
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Why are you pimps so good?
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My neck is freakishly large.
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I declare info war on you.
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Thank you so much, Nick.
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Thank you, Nick.
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Next, Jamie.
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Thank you so much.
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You are now a policy wonk.
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I'm a policy wonk.
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I feel like there's a Jamie on every season of the real world.
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There's a Jamie on every I've never watched the real world.
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What?
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I've never watched the real world, never one episode.
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I've watched a few trailers and that is it.
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I don't understand, man.
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I know.
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You're over the age where you should have.
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You're only three years younger than me.
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I don't know what happened.
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It just somehow missed me entirely.
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Wow.
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All right.
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In that case, we got to say thank you to Michael.
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You're now a policy wonk.
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I'm a policy wonk.
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Thank you, Mikey.
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Thanks, Michael.
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I feel like there's a Michael on every season of Survivor.
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You're not wrong.
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I've seen a bunch of them.
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Next, Charlie.
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Thank you so much.
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You're now a policy wonk.
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I'm a policy wonk.
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Charlie.
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Thanks, Charlie.
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Great character on Lost.
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Hmm.
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You've only seen two episodes.
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I saw three.
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We fell through the fourth.
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Okay.
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Well, Charlie is a good character on Lost.
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Sure.
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He's not great at the beginning, I don't think, but he grows on you.
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Oh, sure he does.
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Next, Taconius.
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You are now a policy wonk.
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I'm a policy wonk.
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There's always a Taconius.
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On every season of American Enjoyer.
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Yeah.
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Next, Aaron.
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Thank you so much.
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You are now a technocrat.
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I'm a policy wonk.
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Crikey, mate.
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That's fantastic.
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Have yourself a brew.
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How's your 401k doing, bro?
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We got to go full tilt boogie on this, Watson.
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All right?
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Let's just get down to business.
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We ain't making that money off that heroin.
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Why are you pimps so good?
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My neck is freakishly large.
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I declare info war on you.
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Thank you, Aaron.
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Thank you very much, Aaron.
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Next, we've got two fun names to close this out.
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Okay.
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Who are technocrats.
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Okay.
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This is very exciting.
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First, someone who bumped up their donation a little bit.
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We appreciate it very much.
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This is Krill Oil Santa Claus.
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Thank you so much.
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You are now a technocrat.
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I'm a policy wonk.
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Crikey, mate.
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That's fantastic.
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Have yourself a brew.
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How's your 401k doing, bro?
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We got to go full tilt boogie on this, Watson.
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All right?
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Let's just get down to business.
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We ain't making that money off that heroin.
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Why are you pimps so good?
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My neck is freakishly large.
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I declare info war on you.
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Thank you, Krill Oil Santa Claus.
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Thank you very much, Krill Oil Santa Claus.
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And now, finally, we get to our last one.
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This is in reference to... this is an attack on me, I believe, this name.
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And I will accept...
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I will say thank you, and I appreciate their support, but I will not sign off on the sentiment
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that is being expressed by this name.
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It is something that I stand against.
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Okay.
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But thank you very much.
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Banana Milk is God sent.
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I'm a policy wonk.
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Crikey, mate.
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That's fantastic.
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Have yourself a brew.
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How's your 401k doing, bro?
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All right.
Unknown Speaker (02:01:04.319)
We got to go full tilt boogie on this, Watson.
Unknown Speaker (02:01:05.640)
All right?
Unknown Speaker (02:01:06.640)
Let's just get down to business.
Unknown Speaker (02:01:07.640)
We ain't making that money off that heroin.
Unknown Speaker (02:01:09.640)
Why are you pimps so good?
Unknown Speaker (02:01:11.560)
My neck is freakishly large.
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I declare info war on you.
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Thank you, Banana Milk is God sent.
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Thank you, I refuse to speak thy name.
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Get behind me.
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I like Strawberry Milk, I like Chocolate Milk, I like Milk Milk, I like Soy Milk even,
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I like Almond Milk.
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Let's see what else.
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I like...
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What's that?
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Horchata.
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I like Horchata.
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Where else are we going to go?
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I can't think of any more milks.
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I like salsa.
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Sure.
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Love it.
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Getting hungry.
Unknown Speaker (02:01:47.680)
Banana Milk is atrocious, but thank you anyway.
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We appreciate it.
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Yeah.
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I don't know if that was annoying to listen to for the audience.
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Sorry if it was, but we appreciate everyone's support.
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We have a website.
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I was just thinking about how this whole drops thanking everybody on our Patreon.
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These are all things that we did, mainly because we thought no one would ever listen to us.
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Yes.
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And now it is...
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We've backed ourselves into a corner.
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Yep, we can't take it away from anyone.
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We've already made an implicit promise.
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We appreciate everyone, and it's a lot of drops.
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And I swear to God we will get to all of you, and if you would like to get your own Policy
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Walk drop, go to our website.
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They already said that at the beginning of this video.
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Knowledgefight.com.
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That is our website.
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Indeed.
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We're also on Twitter.
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It's at knowledge underscore fight, and I'm at go to bed Jordan.
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We are not on Telegram.
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We are not on Telegram.
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We're also not on...
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What was it?
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SubscribeStar?
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That's it.
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Yeah, there we go.
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I completely forgot.
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My brain was thinking spreadsheet.
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That wasn't good.
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Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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But we are on Facebook.
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We are on Facebook.
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We can also download our podcast on iTunes.
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Not on Bitchute.
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Nope, nope.
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Not on Bitchute.
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All those fun places.
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Not going to get them on Gab?
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Mm-mm.
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Certainly not.
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So...
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Who do we got today?
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I mean, a lot of barns going on.
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Yeah, God, a lot of barns.
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Did we say Chris Maddy on Friday?
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I think we did.
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Yeah, we might have.
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Did we say Norm?
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Oh, yeah, it was Norm.
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Chris Maddy was cool.
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I think it was Roy.
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Chris Maddy is cool as shit.
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Yeah, Chris Maddy hasn't killed anybody.
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Yeah.
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But one guy who technically probably has is that guy, Alex Jones.
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Andy in Kansas.
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You're on the air.
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Thanks for holding.
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Hello, Alex.
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I'm a first time caller.
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I'm a huge fan.
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I love your work.
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I love you.