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Andy in Kansas. You're on the air. Thanks for holding.
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Hello Alex. I'm a first time caller. I'm a huge fan. I love your work.
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I love you. Hey everybody. Welcome back to Knowledge Fight. I'm Dan.
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I'm Jordan. We're couple dudes. Like to sit around, drink novelty beverages,
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and talk a little bit about Alex Jones. Indeed we are, Dan.
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Jordan. Dan!
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Jordan. Who has won 12 French Open titles?
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Okay, I know, I know nothing about the sport. Today who has won his 12th French Open title,
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Dan? I know nothing about anything you're talking about, but I know that it's Rafa,
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since you're talking about it. Rafa!
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Yeah. Everyone out there who doesn't know, Jordan's an insane fan of tennis,
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and specifically Rafa. And I'm happy for you, man. I didn't know that. Congratulations.
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It was amazing. It was amazing. It was a great morning.
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It was a good day for fandom. Yeah, it was fantastic. It was a tight match
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up tight, and then Rafa just murdered him 6-1, 6-1 in the final two sets.
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Great. Incredible. He's got a perfect forehand,
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Dan. He's looping around. So glad you asked me this question.
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Look, you always get your response. That's fair enough. I don't know anything
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about tennis, but I do know a lot about Alex Jones.
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And I have the reverse situation. Indeed. Today, Jordan, we've got an interesting
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episode. We're going back to the past, to 2013, to check in about Alex's path in his
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coverage of stuff after Sandy Hook. We are currently, today, covering February
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3rd through 5th. A very interesting stretch of time where nothing
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groundbreaking happens. So an interesting, uninteresting stretch
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of time. No, I find it very interesting, but just
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not for any big picture reasons. Maybe outside of this podcast, what happens
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is not interesting at all. But for our interests, very interesting.
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I like it. And very excited. But before we get to it,
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We appreciate very much. So I regret this but
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Penisaurus dicks you are now a technocrat. I'm a policy wonk crikey mate. That's fantastic. Have yourself a brew
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How's your 401k doing bro? We got to go full tilt boogie on this Watson. All right, let's just get down to business
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We ain't making that money off that heroin
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Why you pimps so good? My neck is freakishly large. I declare info war on you. Thank you so much
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Thank you. Penisaurus dicks. I feel like that's extortion. I feel like that's extortion
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You gave us money in order to elicit some terrible reaction. Yeah
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But thank you very much. Absolutely
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And if you're out there listening and you're thinking hey
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I like this show I'd like to support what these guys do you can do that by going to our website knowledge fight calm clicking
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The button that says support the show. We would appreciate it. Yes, we would so Jordan
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I don't know if you know this but February 3rd
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2013 was a special day. It was a Sunday. It was okay Super Bowl Sunday. Oh, it was Super Bowl Sunday
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So we've got some bitching to do about stuff that has nothing to do with the real world sublimation
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Perfect war ritual. Yes, absolutely. It's there's a lot of bullshit on on that day about how like I'm not into football
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I'm in the arena of the real world great Alex. Thank you very much
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Does he do does he just do the same episode every Super Bowl Sunday?
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I feel like I've heard him say that he's not into football every single time
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We've covered one of those as somebody who's heard a number of them. There are differences. Okay, but it's very close
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Okay, they're very similar shows
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Just like he uses the Super Bowl existing as a reason to just punch football
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Yeah, I'm like like it imply that he's more of a man than sports fan. Right? Right, which is cool
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It's a great use of time
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He seems a little bit upset about the commercials and he seems upset about
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Sandy Hook choir performing and the halftime show
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But he's not really that upset about it outside of being like they just want to turn everyone against guns. Right? Right, right
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It's not it's not really that to that offensive. It's not really that crazy. That's because they're probably
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They were their props to him. So why would he continue attacking them from that point of view?
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Because he stopped caring about them. Yeah. Yeah, so the show itself is not really all that interesting
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But he does take calls in the second hour and he gets a call that is very important stuff
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this caller is nice to Alex and then flips it on him and
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Drops a reference that Alex knows what it means and anybody who studies Alex knows what it means
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But might confuse the uninitiated. I have a question for you Alex. Yes
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Who's Mallory Mahoney?
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Mallory Mahoney is one of our graphics people that works here at the office
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Wouldn't she formerly with Stoppard?
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You know, you guys are mentally ill and I appreciate your call, you know
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Six graphics people for the magazine and for working in here and the University of Texas is here in Austin Stratford is like
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Private intelligence gathering firm that in my opinion puts out propaganda
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It's like a feedback loop to like agree with the Pentagon's they could say look this private group said somebody worked there for a month
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And a half as a unpaid intern and helped write a paper on China
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And and and I mean what am I gonna do if somebody was ever in the military or somebody ever?
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In you how many people you know about a third of the UT journalism people?
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That we bring in here for interviews because we heard a couple from UT actually three of them from UT
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Did you know about half of them or more out now had an internship so much more?
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There's not many places to get a media internship the Austin American Statesman
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The Austin Chronicle this is for print the Houston
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or the Texas Observer or whatever it's called that's small and then Stratford because it's mainly writing thousands of things a day that is
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mental illness so this caller is
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Lay laying a criticism on Alex. Yeah, that is
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Around and circling the idea that Alex is controlled opposition, right?
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This is what this is big about so Mallory Mahoney has become a code word in these conspiracy worlds these conspiracy circles
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When someone uses her name what they're trying to signal is they believe that Alex is controlled opposition
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Which is proven by the fact that he employed a woman named Molly Molly Maroney who whose name?
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This guy is getting wrong who had previously worked as an intern at Stratford
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After Alex didn't pay him enough to write some of his books or to sell some of the books that he was putting on his
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Website mark dice turned on Alex Jones and started making videos about how Alex was full of shit during that period he would often bring
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Up Molly as evidence that Alex was controlled opposition those videos mysteriously all disappeared when mark and Alex made up and mark changed his tune
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Real fast surprised some might say that that's an example of Alex paying off mark to shut him up
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But an equally likely possibility is that mark was mad that Alex stiffed him
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So he started making shit up and then once Alex paid him he got back to being friends again
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Yeah, that's an easy way to retain friendship whenever your friendship is based on a transaction
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Anyways, yeah, either way as a non insane human. I definitely respect Alex's response to that caller
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He's clearly a bit frustrated by these accusations, but he doesn't seem like he's responding with the kind of blind rage
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He usually uses to deflect from valid criticisms
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His explanation for why someone who used to be an intern at Stratford might end up working at info wars makes total sense
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So in order for someone to make this look suspicious
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I'm going to need something a little bit more damning in order for this like oh, she was at Stratford
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She now works at info wars. It's a clear
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It's proof. Yeah, so I need more and before I get into any of this
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Let me be clear. None of this should be interpreted as me saying that Stratford is not a shady and suspicious entity
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That's a matter that other outlets will probably cover way more competently that I can I am only
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Concerned with checking in on the arguments that people make that try and connect Alex to Stratford
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That is my only interest gotcha
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A lot of the belief that Alex Jones is an agent of Stratford traces back to a February 12th
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2012 article written by a guy named David Chase Taylor on his website truther.org
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Before addressing his specific points. It's worth noting that a related article link on this article is quote ten reasons
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Why Alex Jones is the biological son or grandson of one Adolf Hitler?
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Okay, so we know we're dealing with some well-sourced calm headed shit. Yeah, I was gonna say I don't think there's anything
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I would believe less than something that came from truther.org like if you just name your website
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Yes, you know that that's why I'm sure that's why I don't trust you
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Also before we accidentally take too much of what this guy says seriously
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It's important to know what he's up to in the more recent days in 2017
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He put out a press release saying quote after months of deliberation and with great trepidation
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I begrudgingly announced that I am the so-called Messiah. Took a turn, didn't it. You know what, I appreciate that he's willing to admit it is a begrudging responsibility. It's so calm. You know what, you don't want to be the Messiah, Dan. I believe that wholeheartedly.
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Yeah, the the the king should not want to be king. Yeah, and it's just so much work
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Yeah, I do not reveal this for fame or gain but rather out of self-preservation
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For it's far less likely that the Geneva-based CIA will assassinate me prior to the end of the Maya calendar
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That sounds right. Once I announce that I am the Messiah. The last thing the CIA wants to do is martyr the whistleblower
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journalist who exposed CIA headquarters beneath Lake Geneva right after he declares he is the so-called chosen one. Right, right, right, right. That's
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That's like mailing something to yourself because you can't afford the copyright. Is that what we're doing?
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It's a little nutty. So here he goes on to say quote, although Jesus Christ allegedly existed 2,000 plus years ago, he holds the title of Messiah and has been deemed the savior of mankind.
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The reality is that mankind didn't need a savior back then like they do now. Therefore the story of Jesus depicted in the Holy Bible is the story of the future Messiah
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which has now been identified as David Chase Taylor. Aside from all the physical traits and similarities, the trials and tribulations suffered by Jesus are reflected in the life of David Chase Taylor.
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Hold on, hold on. He looks like Jesus?
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According to him, yeah. I can't vouch for that. That is to say the persecution allegedly suffered by Jesus has been inflicted upon Taylor tenfold.
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He has been subjected to unspeakable tortures and persecution over the last seven years with his quest to save humanity from extinction.
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I have ten times as many holes in my hands and feet. How dare you?
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Yeah, that's a cool dude. A real good source of information, guys. Winners.
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I'm liking him, I'm liking him. How's he doing? Like where is he in 2019? Because we still need a Messiah, buddy.
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From what I can tell from his website, he's mostly posting open letters to journalists every few days that are basically on his website.
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In case I get killed in the next few days, here's who did it. Just over and over and over again. And he never gets killed.
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There's a purity of that that I just can't get. It's so pure. It's an insanely high level paranoia. But you're right. Pure.
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So when we talk about the accusations that Alex works for Stratfor, consider that the source of those conspiracies trace back to an article written by that dude.
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I went through the original article and here are the basic claims that he makes. Alex is in Austin and Stratfor is headquartered in Austin. So there's a geographic connection.
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Don, you've already solved that conundrum. I believe him wholeheartedly.
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Well, I mean, Boeing is run out of Chicago, so are we connected to them?
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Oh shit, we are.
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Oh no. All state and state farm are both based here, but I don't have private insurance. Let alone does our show have any connection to the insurance industry.
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Geography is nothing. That means zero. The second piece of information that connects them.
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Stratfor was founded in 1996, and according to Taylor, Alex's career began in 1996.
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While it is true that Alex began his run on KJFK in 1996, his public access show predates that.
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Also, Infowars itself wouldn't actually be founded until 1999, so I don't really think there's even a chronological connection here. He's just throwing spaghetti.
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Yeah, I like to entertain it for humor, but this is just nothing.
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Three, both Stratfor and Infowars use intelligence employees to create analysis that they disseminate.
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That's barely even worthwhile as a connection.
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That's a two-bit... They both use pizza ovens to make pizza at Papa John's and at Denny's.
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Connected.
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Exactly.
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Connected.
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The fourth, Alex Jones is supposedly a conspiracy theorist and outsider, yet he's friends with celebrities like Jesse Ventura and Joe Rogan.
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Is celebrity...
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Stuckers!
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That's not suspicious!
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Then the fifth one, both Alex Jones and Stratfor released intelligence predicting 9-11, but so did a whole lot of people.
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So did Bill Cooper.
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That doesn't mean anything.
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This is just selectively using a couple pieces of information to create a false connection that you want to appear in the world.
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And so David Chase Taylor took all this information and made his argument that Alex is working for Stratfor and is a shill.
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Yeah, I think he probably was up until about 2012, and then they just let him go.
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That's what makes the most sense to me.
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You think that David Chase Taylor was right?
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Yeah, based on this information.
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Man, there's one other piece of his argument, though, and that is that David Taylor says that Stratfor is a Zionist Mossad Front, and Alex is married to a Jewish woman, so you do the math.
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That's a big part of the E.
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Okay, I was wondering if the...
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Yeah.
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Yeah, it was gonna come in.
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That is what's really behind all of these people.
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Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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So the people who push the Alex Jones works for Stratfor narrative that's based on the incredibly inconclusive blog post by David Chase Taylor, they aren't doing so because they're worried about Alex secretly working for the feds.
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It's all about the idea of Alex working for Stratfor as an explanation for why he won't come out and admit what they think is an obvious truth, and that is that the NWO and all the world banking system are a big Jewish conspiracy.
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I've reviewed a ton of conspiracies that have spun out of David Chase Taylor's blog post attempting to... they're just attempting to expand on the theory and make more connections between Alex and Stratfor, and they're all super weak, and they all come back to people who are mad that Alex won't publicly say that the real enemy is the Jews.
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Yeah.
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One thing that I've always considered and kept in the back of my mind is how valuable having enemies like that is.
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Yeah.
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And unlike Alex, who's vulnerable to accusations of antisemitism based on his antisemitic worldview, it's almost a get-out-of-jail-free card to have a loud group of people who are way more antisemitic than you attacking you for not being antisemitic enough.
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Yeah.
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It's a really valuable thing.
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It turns out that semitism and antisemitism are a spectrum, and that's what makes it so difficult.
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Yeah.
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Also, if Molly Moroney was some kind of deeply embedded intelligence agent working for Infowars under the cover of being a graphic designer and editorial staff member for Infowars, it makes no sense that they would credit her under her real name.
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Or why would they credit her at all for being a graphic designer on the Infowars magazine?
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I mean, look, hey, just because you're a secret operative doesn't mean you don't want to see your name in the credits.
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You do the work, you get the credit.
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No.
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Yeah, come on.
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No.
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The government always gives those secret operatives credit.
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I think the fact that she's listed in the credits is almost an indication that this is not suspicious at all.
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Something that makes me even less suspicious is that Molly seems to have gone on to have a career in visual arts as opposed to in propaganda.
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In 2013, after she ended her very short time at Infowars, Molly started an art collective called Spratix, SPRATX, Austin, Texas.
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Yeah, they do this really cool thing called Free Art Friday.
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I'm not sure if they still do, but they did this thing where artists would hide pieces of art they'd created around the city for people to find and take home.
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They'd post clues on Instagram as to where the pieces were hidden, so everybody got to play a big city-wide game of hide-and-seek.
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That is the most fun.
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Yeah.
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I probably don't have the energy to partake in something like that, but I am also not so jaded that I think it's not cool.
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No, especially if you... Come on. A former Infowars employee goes out and goes,
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Fuck that entire world. We're gonna play hide-and-seek with art. That's beauty.
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Because she's just an artist.
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Yeah, she's just an artist.
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Since then, Spratix has grown into a full-fledged artist-oriented agency.
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I was waiting for you to say cult.
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No.
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They connect people who need art services with providers and have all sorts of other art-related business wings.
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I've never met her, but from everything I can tell, Molly Moroney seems really cool.
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In fact, the only negative thing I could really find about her is that she worked at Infowars,
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which totally is understandable given that coming out of college...
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No, Alex's explanation for why somebody would take that position at Infowars makes perfect sense.
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No, his explanation for why someone would have an internship at Stratford.
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Oh, yeah.
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But it still works as to why...
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It's why she worked at Infowars, yeah.
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And understandably, she leaves Infowars off her resume nowadays.
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Surprise.
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So I don't know, I think this is a load of bullshit, but it's a big important piece of the anti-Alex Jones world.
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A lot of the people who are critical of him to the level that you and I are,
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a lot of them get really sidetracked into that sort of Molly Moroney world.
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He works for Stratford.
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Boo.
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Yeah, absolutely.
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Lame.
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Get a better conspiracy theory.
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So in this next clip from the third, Alex says something that seems to imply
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that he does believe that there were actors at Sandy Hook, which is not good.
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But it's clear that that's at least in the background and kind of what he believes.
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See, what's happened is the public has lost faith in the mainstream media and the government,
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which overall is a healthy thing.
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The founding fathers stated that, history shows that.
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But they had judgment.
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It doesn't mean that then everything is fake.
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It doesn't mean that I'm Bill Hicks or that I'm really an actor
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and the professor in Florida who says that Sandy Hook may have been staged with crisis actors,
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which they really have, that I'm him.
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I mean, mental illness.
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Mental illness.
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I think that what he's saying is that crisis actors do exist, but it's so muddy,
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like what he's expressing, that it could easily be interpreted as him saying that this professor from Florida
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says that there were crisis actors at Sandy Hook and there were.
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Right.
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It's a reasonable mishearing of that, I think.
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Yeah, I think I agree with you.
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His meaning was, and that has happened.
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There have been crisis actors.
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He is not necessarily confirming Sandy Hook in specific.
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But it's close.
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It is real close.
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So that's about it for the third.
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There's really not a whole lot going on.
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It's a pretty boring show, because I think Alex wants to go watch the Super Bowl.
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Yeah.
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So I think he's-
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I got him at minus three.
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Yeah, I think he's probably concerned about his bets, so he doesn't put in the best show ever.
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So we get to the fourth, get into Monday, and Alex has a big fucking bone to pick with the President of the United States.
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Oh, yeah? Which one?
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Barack Obama.
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Oh, okay.
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Barack Obama has put out a picture of himself skeet shooting at Camp David.
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Oh, no.
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And how dare-
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Oh, no.
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How dare this man be pictured with a gun?
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I don't understand. What are you talking about?
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Well, you got to get them coming. You got to get them going.
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That's a good point.
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There's nothing you can do that's right.
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Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
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I know shotguns, and I have photographed and videotaped, even as a novice before I had a TV show, firing shotguns and firing rifles and firing handguns over and over again.
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And I can tell you right now, that looks like a fake photo to me.
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And I actually noticed that first there's a controversy that, oh, he doesn't really skeet shoot or like guns, which they kind of stirred up.
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And then the White House over the weekend, and I'm going to cover this, I have it here on the stack once we get over some of the top news.
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The White House comes out and says, don't you claim this isn't real?
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And then another little comment, they say, by the way, this is copyright, no one is allowed to Photoshop this.
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This is only for media.
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So first things first, there is nothing suspicious about the White House saying that people can't Photoshop or use the image without permission.
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That's a boilerplate disclaimer that's literally applied to every picture on the White House that they release.
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No one ever enforces it, but it's a universal thing that Alex is making a big deal out of because the Daily Caller, the conservative trash rag run by Tucker Carlson, made a big deal out of that.
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The idea that you can't Photoshop it.
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They pretended that it was a suspicious detail only relevant to this image, which isn't true.
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The Daily Caller article was then boosted by Drudge, which Alex picks up.
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And now we've got a conspiracy that Alex says you can't Photoshop a picture of him with a gun.
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Dan, I will tell you this right now.
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The Cubs won last night, but I can't tell you anything further without the express written consent of Major League Baseball.
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Right. And it's only that game.
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And it's only that game.
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Because something happened that game.
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Yeah, it's just a completely manufactured pile of bullshit.
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So, I'll tell you this too. The fourth, not much going on.
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Not a very exciting, vibrant show.
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But one thing important does happen.
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And it's not that Lord Monckton shows up.
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Though he does.
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Okay, of course he does.
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That is not what's important.
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What's important is that Alex gets a call that tips him off that certain somebody is coming to Texas and Alex is not happy about this.
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Ladies and gentlemen, there is no rest for people that want to fight tyranny.
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I can't help it.
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Piers Morgan is coming to Texas.
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He's going to Katy, Texas.
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That's west of Houston.
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It'll take me about two hours to go there when this radio show ends.
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You know, I've got a chiropractor appointment.
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My shoulder, I've got to reschedule that.
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Anyways, I've never even been to a chiropractor but my shoulder is real tight and I'm in front of those lights again.
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What are you talking about?
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Yeah, I'm going. That's it.
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I'm going to Katy, Texas because he's coming into our territory.
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So Alex has heard that Piers Morgan is going to a gun shop in Katy, Texas.
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And he is going to fucking finish the show and run to Katy.
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What is this round? This is the Thrilla in Manila.
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This is what's going on. This is the third matchup between the two of them.
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That's what Alex thinks this is.
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It's the rubber match, man.
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God.
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Yeah, it's very exciting.
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So Alex kind of, as the show is coming to an end, as he's getting towards the end of the show, he's struggling with this idea.
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Because he's like, it's a long trip to Katy, Texas.
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This is almost by Houston. Like, I got to, I don't know, is Piers Morgan actually even going to come?
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He's really, he's like, I'm going to do this. He's amping himself up.
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But at the same time, he has doubts.
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And then those doubts go away.
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I mean, this is an anti-gun gun shop that is groveling up to Piers Morgan, it looks like.
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And they're located on 1200 S. Mason Road in Katy, Texas.
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Our store and range hours are Monday through Friday, 10 a.m. to 7 p.m.
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But they said February 4th, 2013, 6 p.m., that they're going to be closing early for a special event.
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And what, how, what, how cowardly.
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I'll guarantee you, when they hear I'm coming, they're going to have police out there, they're going to be freaking out in fear.
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And all I'm doing, by the way, I've got all his producer's phone numbers, I need it all, okay?
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And by the way, I got to get on the horn.
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I want to get some of the retired cops I know that every once in a while do bodyguard work.
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I got to get one of them to go with me.
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Just because no telling what the other side will try.
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Anyways, the whole point is this is just amazing, ladies and gentlemen.
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Absolutely amazing that all of this is happening, all of this is unfolding right now.
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I mean, this just makes my head spin.
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I'm going.
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In fact, when this show ends, I'm saddling up, I'm going to Katy, Texas, and I want to see you there.
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So Alex is trying to get his audience to come, too.
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He's trying to turn this into a, like a big meetup.
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A mess, yeah.
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So this is exciting to me.
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My favorite part is anytime he has a surprise like, oh, I've got to go here, he always tells us what he was going to be doing.
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The chiropractor.
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I know, I've never been to the chiropractor.
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I've got to go to the chiropractor, I've never been to the chiropractor, I've got a bum shoulder going on anyways.
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I hear it's great to go to a chiropractor.
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I digress.
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So this is like, I was listening to these episodes and I'm like, there is very little to talk about here.
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Very little that interests me.
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Like, he's spinning this whole bullshit about the Super Bowl because there's the power outage during the Super Bowl.
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Yeah, it was that one.
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He's going on about how, like, it was 33 minutes long, the outage, because of the Illuminati signaling that the globalists want you to get used to power going out.
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I'm just sitting there like, oh my God, this is so bad.
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I just listen to it like, I don't, I can't, I cannot interest myself in researching that.
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I just cannot.
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You don't want to research why 33 minutes is the exact amount that the globalists would require or take.
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Because the Masons love that number.
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Right, see, there you go.
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You already did research it.
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I think it's implied.
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What's implied, sure.
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I mean, I did look into the power outage and like, what caused it.
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No, what fucking wasn't the Illuminati.
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No, no.
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But, so, I just like, I was so desperate for something.
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I needed, I needed a taste.
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And Piers Morgan coming to fucking Texas is exactly what I needed.
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The idea that Alex is like, he hears that Piers Morgan's coming and he's like, oh my God, the last time I fucked with that dude, I got so many ratings.
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Huge ratings.
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I was so popular.
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King shit, yeah.
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I talked about it for weeks.
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Ever.
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I sold so many pills.
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It was great.
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I gotta do it again.
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I have to.
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So, here is Alex Jones confronting Piers Morgan.
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He shot video of this.
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He shot video of this?
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There's a video.
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This actually happened?
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Yes.
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Oh, boy.
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Now, pay very close attention to how sad Alex sounds in his quote unquote confrontation.
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Good to see you, man.
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Good to see you.
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You good?
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Yeah, I hope you have me back on.
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I hear you're a big customer here.
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Oh, no, but I, some of my listeners already say it's the best around here.
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Yeah.
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You good at enjoying global fame?
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Oh, well, I already had quite a few listeners, but no, it certainly went viral.
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Yeah, yeah.
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That's why we should do another interview.
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We would do.
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My ears haven't recovered yet.
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They what?
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My ears haven't recovered.
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Well, it was good that I had a fever and was actually sick.
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That's why I was sweating.
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I mean, I almost didn't come because of that, but I said I'd do it.
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That's kind of why I got, I didn't blow up on purpose, but I thought it turned out as
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good for people thinking about the debate.
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So, in 30 seconds, Alex multiple times asks to be back on his show and not in a you're
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afraid of me kind of way.
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No.
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No.
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Groffily kind of way.
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Oh, yeah.
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And I like, well, I mean, like, oh, it went viral.
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Like a lot of people, you know, like, you should have me back on.
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Right.
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It's, it is not the Alex that he likes to present himself as.
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That is an Alex.
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That is.
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Where he's like, I, if I can pull this off, I will get back on CNN.
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My reach will expand even further.
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That is, that is literally like a first time screenwriter walking up to Spielberg and being
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like, hey, you know, if you want to take a look at this, you know, it's no big deal.
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I wrote it.
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It was, it's, I think it's pretty good.
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And I have my friend read it and yeah, you just, you just take a, you know, send it back
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to me, whatever you need.
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So in this next clip, Alex goes even further and asks again to be back on the show.
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Are you going to have me back on?
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I don't want to promote you that much, Alex.
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I know, exactly.
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But I thought you won the debate though.
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You were saying it was the best interview ever.
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You said on your Twitter, you wanted to shake my hand and have a civilized conversation.
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Here we are.
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All right.
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Good to see you again.
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You just had a civilized conversation.
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I've had very civilized conversations in Texas since I've been here.
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All right.
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Well, good.
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We'll see.
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We just had a friendly talk right there.
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Good to see you again.
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All right.
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Good seeing you.
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Good luck with the show.
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Good to see you guys.
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Then he gets kicked out.
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That was lame.
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Then Alex gets kicked out by the CNN producers who are like, you can't be, we're filming.
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Yeah.
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And Alex is like, I talked to the owner.
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Where is he?
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He's like, he's right there.
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You have to go.
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So Alex gets kicked out.
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Poor Alex.
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There's a clip of him talking to one of the producers and it's like, it's, it's presented
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like a sort of stealth footage.
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And it's again, it's her being like super polite to him and being like, I should come
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back on.
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And they're like, oh yeah, great.
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Great.
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Now that was very sycophantic, very weaselly, very, very, you hate to see a guy brought
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that low.
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It's really not how I wanted to see Alex.
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Now how you would like to see him and how he would like you to see him is how he sounds
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once he gets outside and he has his rally in front of him and all of his fans, he sounds
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very different.
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We're here saying we don't agree with what you're doing coming to Texas to quite frankly
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piss on us.
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All right.
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That's what's going on here.
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And listen, Piers Morgan, Obama's out there with a shotgun shooting it right now.
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Oh, I don't want your guns and you're here shooting guns.
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You know, you've lost this round.
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So now you want to play possum and go back to the old thing of Obama saying, I'm not
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going to take anybody's guns.
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I promise.
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And Biden, that's what you're doing.
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That's what you're doing.
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Okay.
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And then implying that, oh, we're not going to have you back on right now because we don't
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want to give you too much attention.
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That's cause I kicked your butt.
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Your show got attention from me.
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You have a half million viewers.
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I have 3 million a day.
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CNN's crumbling.
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It's all over the news.
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Yeah.
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Mainstream media is a joke.
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You're here because you're a red coat in our country saying, take our rights opportunistically
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that brags you stand on the graves of children.
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You're the worst gun control salesman ever.
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So we're exploiting your red coat treason for the whole world.
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We're showing everybody what a globalist collaborator scum you are.
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So that's how he wants to present himself as opposed to the guy who goes into the green
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room is like, Hey man, can I come back on your show?
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Uh, no, Alex, if, if you wanted to make the claim of, uh, like in court, if they want
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to do like, Hey, this is all an act.
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This is all bullshit.
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Play those two clips back to back and everybody will be like, Oh yeah, it is.
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It is an act.
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It is bullshit.
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Fine.
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And you know, what's wild to me is that Alex put out the video where he's talking to Piers
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Morgan.
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He put that out?
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Yeah.
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I didn't have to put that down.
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I thought that was the CNN.
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I thought that was somebody from CNN who was just like, look at how fake and bullshit this
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guy is.
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Alex put that out.
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He put that out.
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Yeah.
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What a fucking moron.
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Yeah.
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It's insane.
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I hate it.
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I can't imagine what would possess a person to, uh, uh, to do that, like, uh, just present
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themselves as so two faces, but whatever, man.
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So Alex has his rally, he's yelling into a bull horn and there's tyranny crusher one
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through six or something and there's tons of video of him getting interviewed by the
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local news stations and it's like he got exactly what he wanted out of this.
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He went down there to cause a scene, get a few of his listeners out in order to create
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the appearance that there's something actually going on that'll attract the local media.
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He gets some sort of footage of him with Piers Morgan, even if it is fucking embarrassing
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to him.
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And then it doesn't matter cause who he really is, is who he is outside with his fans behind
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them where he's doing a wrestling promo shooting on peers as opposed to like, Hey man, I was
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just trying to, I was just trying to be nice to him cause I didn't want to offend the gun
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store owner.
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That sort of shit.
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Right.
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Fuck off.
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That's who you are.
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You are the guy begging to get on CNN.
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Oh man.
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See now I feel like that's a good idea.
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And when we were in Austin, we should have gotten a few listeners and held a rally outside
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of his studio, tried to get the local media on there and the media will be interested.
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I think they would love it.
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I think that would be weirdos screaming about Alex Jones.
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I think the local media, I think that would be a zero for the, uh, the press, but it,
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but the 99 theses on his door and we get shot by the snipers claims he has on the roof.
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So he goes out and he does that and uh, he has a good time, obviously has a great time.
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Uh, then he comes back on the fifth and I have a strong suspicion that he might have
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partied the night after, uh, going to yell at Piers Martin.
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Surprise.
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All right folks, get ready.
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I'm running on about three hours sleep and so that should provide us with a interesting
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show.
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I've noticed some of my best broadcasts when I'm exhausted.
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This does not end up living.
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This isn't one of those?
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This doesn't, uh, no.
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That, uh, the prediction does not come true.
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Usually they're really great cause I do a lot of crank before the show, but I've heard
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out this morning, so, uh, this one's probably not gonna, not gonna be that great.
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Whatever the case, uh, whatever the reason he is, uh, on, on no sleep.
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He is on no sleep.
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Yes.
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And it's not, it just, it, I don't know.
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He, I think he made some unforced errors on this show and if that's a product of not sleeping
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then, then that's good, but, uh, it's not as crazy as you kind of want it to be.
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Yeah.
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Well, let's start off the show, uh, expressing support for violent militias and vigilantism
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against immigrants.
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Yeah.
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But why wouldn't you?
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Uh, America next, vigilante militias patrol Mexico and in the areas where they're doing
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it's the only areas that are safe.
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Yeah.
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When the government's corrupt, people take the law into their own hands.
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You cannot support that, Alex, Alex, that is not good.
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You don't want to be in the business of determining what is and what is not sincere vigilante
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is.
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All right.
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All right, Alex.
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So, uh, so the cops are killing unarmed black people.
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Government's corrupt.
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Totally.
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I assume that you want them to take justice in their own hands when those cops are, uh,
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you know, you present an interesting case study, Alex, uh, mom on that.
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Surprised?
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Yeah.
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Uh, I don't know.
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I just think that's a, like an insanely, uh, dangerous precedent to set.
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That's ridiculous.
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Yeah.
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Because if you're supporting, uh, like vigilante groups, uh, then, uh, you, you, you don't
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have a lot of, you don't have a lot of firm ground to stand on.
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So, uh, in this next clip, Alex talks about going to yell at Piers Morgan and he has his
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standard, uh, excuse for why the footage isn't better.
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This happens every single time he goes and does anything.
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It was just amazing how CNN was behaving behind the scenes.
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And then as soon as we turned our cameras off, they ran up and said, are you ready to
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come back?
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I'm with peers.
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You'll be, you know, you'll be nice.
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Do it by satellite.
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Are you ready?
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That's just so funny.
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So that almost turned into a cry.
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That almost turned into a cry.
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That was a laugh.
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Cry felt a little sad.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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It's always off camera, man.
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It's always just didn't get it on camera, but, uh, you know, it's, uh, it's, it's lame.
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But also that's, that's such a fun feature that dovetails with everything else.
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Because if you're a conspiracy theorist, of course you couldn't get the good stuff on
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camera.
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They're too smart for that.
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Like being lazy plays into the, the good conspiracy theorist as opposed to actually putting effort
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into making something work.
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Yeah.
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Like it's perfect.
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It's, it's good.
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It's real good stuff.
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It's a good hustle.
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Yeah.
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Um, so in this next clip, Alex, uh, talks about his, like, he doesn't really want to
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go back on Piers Morgan show.
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Not now.
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Granted, there's video of him asking three times in a minute to come back on his show
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a lot.
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Uh, but Alex is like, nah, he needs me, right?
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Some people ask me, why are you talking about Piers Morgan if he has a half million viewers
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on average, when I went on, it was a million than 800,000 for the next week.
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And we have the CNN head producer saying, Oh, we want to get you back on soon.
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It's just peers really doesn't yet.
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We've never had ratings like this yet.
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We've never had ratings in his two years on CNN until I went on there and now he doesn't
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have them anymore.
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He's trying to get them back with Ted Nugent and people isn't going to happen.
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People are sick of it.
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They want folks to get in the face of the gun grabbers.
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It's just sad.
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I just, I just hear sad, uh, like I, I, Ted Nugent's crazy.
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He's going on.
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Why can't I get back on?
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I need another hit.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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I do believe him when he says that, uh, even Ted Nugent is going back on and people are
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sick of it.
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Like I, that was a very direct quote.
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I enjoyed that.
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Yeah.
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That, that checks out.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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Um, so at this point in the show on the fifth, Alex interviews the guy who owns the gun store
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where Piers Morgan went to.
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How is he still making hay out of this shit?
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This is insane.
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This guy has some complaints about Piers Morgan.
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He says that Piers edited the interview to make him look stupid.
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Sure.
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Sure.
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Sure.
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Sure.
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Sure.
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Sure.
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I don't know how much that is true.
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I don't particularly care, but Alex has some slightly pettier complaints about Piers Morgan.
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You know, one reason I blew up at Morgan too is that I'm in there about 10 minutes before
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we go live sitting there with him.
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He's looking at me, looking at me real coldly and they're like, yeah, look, he's not wearing
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a jacket.
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Move him out front.
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Yeah.
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Look at the belly.
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And I hear him.
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And so they move us out.
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And I say, Alex, with his tucked in shirt is a little bit of a pot belly.
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You're paranoid about it.
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I mean, literally I hear them whispering how to make me look bad.
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And it's just like, you're a bunch of cockroaches.
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Ridiculous.
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Ridiculous.
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I heard these producers want to make me look fat.
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It is fun when you can blame any moment of insecurity you have on actually real things
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making you feel insecure.
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Like he can't just wrestle with the idea that this insecurity is self-generated from him.
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It has to be some, even, even that has to be a cabal of people forcing him to feel embarrassed.
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It has to be a sneaky plan of people trying to highlight his belly.
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Get the fuck out of here.
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You can't just say like, I wore the wrong shirt and it didn't look good on camera.
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Just say you didn't wear the right shirt.
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So ridiculous.
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So I wouldn't care about Alex interviewing this gun store owner.
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It's not particularly interesting to me.
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There are too many dead horses about that are getting beaten.
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Right.
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The only reason that I actually even think that it's very worth our time is that I think
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that this next clip is one of the few times I have ever heard Alex give an actual apology.
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I have almost never, even when he's had to give formal apologies to like James Alifantis
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and Hamdi Ulukaya, I still think that this is one of the only real sincere apologies
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he's ever given.
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Oh God.
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All right.
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I've been waiting for a full hour sometime next week to just talk about the American
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success story.
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And I'm glad Mike Adams called me up to say, look, that's a baloney media article.
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And I apologize that I bought in to what the media was saying.
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I've got to learn just like you said, I can't believe I trusted him.
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I called you and said, don't trust him, but I trusted him.
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So I apologize for believing them and saying that tactical firearms was a not pro second
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amendment.
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I apologize.
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That's all right.
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Thank you, brother.
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He is the only people he will apologize to.
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Full throated apology for if you remember in the first earlier episode, he said that
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this was an anti-gun gunshot.
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And so he has to give an apology.
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I'm so sorry that I bought into the bullshit that I thought that you were a gun store that
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was against the second fucking amendment.
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Jesus.
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It is, it is almost like that is almost like he's apologizing to a high priest of guns.
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Like that was very much like my only real God is, is represented by you on this earth.
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The trigger.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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It does feel that way.
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It's very, it's very weird.
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It's a, I mean, it shows that like he is afraid of being out of the good graces of gun weirdos.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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It's like if he will go out of his way to apologize for that as opposed to just like
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leaving it be, it means that someone is mad at him on a gun forum, I would assume.
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Well, the, the, the worst thing that you can call somebody in the gun community is an apostate,
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which I suppose is what he's describing an anti second amendment gun shop.
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Yeah.
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So Alex has that guest, which great guns, then he has another guest and this guy really,
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really bummed me out.
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All right.
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So for the rest of the hour, we are joined by syndicated radio host and of course a doctor.
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And he is on the broadcast with us here, joining us from his office, Dr. Peter Glidden.
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And I wanted to get him on to talk about 780,000 people are killed each year from MD treatments.
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That's conservative.
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At least 31 school shootings have been on the psychotropic type stuff.
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We're going to get into all that.
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And a bunch of other statistics that are hard numbers that we need to talk about here today.
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But I wanted to get Dr. Glidden on first to talk about several, several new big announcements
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that just show the total Twilight zone level that we're in.
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And we can have a document cam shot here for TV viewers.
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Harvard study confirms fluoride reduces children's IQ.
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Okay.
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Now this came out last year, but now there's another report in the Huffington post about
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this.
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Who's called me a conspiracy theorist talking about this in the past.
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This is interesting.
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So here we have a doctor showing up on Alex's show.
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We can just assume right off the bat, a couple of things.
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Veterinary.
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What are they?
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What are the things that we can assume?
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Not a doctor in the field that we are going to be discussing.
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Obviously that's the first thing.
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Not a doctor.
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Yes.
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Not a doctor with a degree in naturopathy, which is not the same thing as being a medical
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doctor.
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Probably some jail time maybe.
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So what's the second thing we can assume?
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You think it's jail time?
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That is incorrect.
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Okay.
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The second thing is that they're probably connected to a product that Alex makes money
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off of.
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For sure.
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A very quick search of the name Peter Glidden reveals that he's a quote member of the scientific
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advisory board at Young Jevity, the supplement line that sponsors Alex's show at this point
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in time.
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Of course.
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Much like all the fucking assholes who come on Alex's show from Young Jevity, which I
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stress is run by a veterinarian pretending to be a human doctor, Peter Glidden is somebody
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who espouses sincerely dangerous ideas.
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One of his big claims to fame is arguing that chemotherapy doesn't work and it's just a
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scam by doctors to keep cancer patients sick and make more money off them.
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Instead of getting that chemo and lining your medical doctor's pockets, you should use naturopathy
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and line the pockets of non-doctors like him.
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Glidden justifies his claim by citing a 2004 study from the Clinical Oncology Journal.
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He has selected one line that he uses to make his argument that says, quote, the overall
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contribution of curative and adjuvant cytotoxic chemotherapy to five-year survival in adults
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was estimated to be 2.3% in Australia and 2.1% in the USA.
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And then he concluded that this means that chemotherapy only works in 2% of the people
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they use it on.
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Of course, Glidden is intentionally misleading people about this study.
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The 2% number is 2% of the total people diagnosed with cancer, not 2% of the people who get
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chemo, which is very different statistically.
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A large number of the people considered in that statistic didn't get chemo.
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So the 2.1% is in no way related to the efficacy of chemo as a cancer treatment.
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The misrepresentation of this study is important.
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It's attacking science in the name of longevity.
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And the real consequence of someone believing him is that they might die.
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I know that chemo isn't 100% a sure thing, but I would love to see double-blind peer-reviewed
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studies on beyond tangy tangerine before we start having any of that fucking conversation.
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Alternative medicine is all good, and it's all good and well.
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And there's nothing wrong with studying natural cures to ailments, even ones that have mainstream
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medical treatments already.
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Science is a big tent.
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That said, where it all becomes a huge problem is when you use your unfounded medicine bullshit,
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this alternative medicine bullshit, primarily to attack mainstream medical treatments.
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This isn't trying to advance medical treatment.
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It's not based on a concern that patients aren't getting the appropriate care.
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It's a transparent attempt to trick vulnerable people into spending their money on you instead
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of doctors.
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And man, that sucks.
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Oh, also Peter Glidden also hosts a show on the Genesis Communications Network called
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Fire Your Doctor Now.
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Stop it.
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Synthesis.
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How dare you?
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All of his doctor guys are all people that are making money off him.
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They're all on the grift.
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That is awful to have the double whammy of where 100% get as many guns in as many people's
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hands as possible, and at the same time remove as many doctors as we can from this world.
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We want to get you hurt, and we want to make sure you stay hurt.
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It's deeply disturbing.
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Yeah, that's fucked up.
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So now about this fluoride study that he mentions, Alex has no idea what he's talking about.
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But also, part of the reason that the misuse of that study, the Harvard study, became so
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prevalent is that larger platforms allowed themselves to be infiltrated by anti-science
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bullshit artists who used their platforms against them.
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Right.
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The Harvard study is an analysis that some researchers did of a bunch of studies on the
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effects of fluoride in IQ.
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The researchers at Harvard didn't run any new trials.
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They merely reviewed 27 already existing studies and discussed what they purported to have
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found.
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Most of the studies they analyzed were about 10 years old and from China.
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The studies were looking at people living in villages in China, Mongolia, and Iran,
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where the natural fluoride levels, I stress, not added fluoride water.
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Oh, goddamn these fucking people.
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The natural fluoride levels in their drinking water was approximately 12 times the level
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it is here in the United States.
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Oh, I remember this one now.
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Yeah.
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Now I remember this one.
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I don't think that anyone would dispute that even beneficial chemicals being taken in at
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that high of a rate can be dangerous, but that's not how Alex or his fake doctor friends
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present that information.
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They point to this meta-analysis of studies and just flippantly declare victory and pretend
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that Harvard came out and admitted that they were right all along and that fluoride's an
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attack on the population, blah.
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The researchers who did that meta-analysis of studies were also very clear in their paper
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that the 27 studies that they reviewed had serious issues regarding the scientific method.
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Some of them would probably not stand up to scrutiny if they were submitted to be published
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on their own, but they exist within the body of this meta-analysis.
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Yeah.
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Subsequent studies have found no link between fluoride and IQ, but it doesn't matter.
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The misrepresentation of that Harvard study had already taken hold in communities that
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wanted to believe the false conclusion, so no amount of proof that that conclusion is
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wrong.
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It's going to be sufficient.
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And one of the biggest reasons that this narrative became so popular was because exactly what
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Alex pointed out.
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There was a Huffington Post headline, quote, Harvard study confirms fluoride reduces children's
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IQ.
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No.
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However...
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You fucking...
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It wasn't written by anybody.
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It was written on the publicly generated, the one that they got rid of because of stupid
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shit like this.
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Yep.
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God damn it.
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It was on the HuffPost contributor platform.
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Motherfuckers.
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Yep.
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The HuffPost contributor blog post was written by Joseph Mercola, who is an anti-vax pseudoscience
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grifter and has been for a really long time.
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Multiple times, the government has had to tell him to cease and desist of making medical
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claims that he was putting forth about products he sold, and in 2016, he had to pay back over
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$5.3 million to customers he'd defrauded by selling them tanning beds, which would reduce
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their risk of cancer.
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He's a real pile of shit, and probably worth a whole episode at some point, and if he ever
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shows up on Infowars, look forward to that.
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But for now, just know, Joseph Mercola sucks.
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Huffington Post did a lot of damage by allowing people like him to have free reign to attach
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their misinformation to the presumably legitimate name of their platform.
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Even people like Alex understand that mainstream media outlets have more rigorous editorial
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standards than he does.
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That's why he constantly backs up his stories by saying, it's in the mainstream news.
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He knows that makes his bullshit sound more believable, because the mainstream news does
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fact checking.
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Yeah.
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The HuffPost contributor platform does not, but shares a name with an outlet that you
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would expect does.
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That's so annoying, and they are so stupid.
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It's such misinformation.
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That was such a stupid thing that they did.
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Yep.
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Wow.
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Pretty wild.
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It doesn't affect your IQ unless you take tons of it, and then you're poisoned at that
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point.
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It's ridiculous.
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It is a severe disservice that science journalism has done.
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Not like intentionally.
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It's almost like there should be...
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In the same way that there are clearance levels for stuff, something like that study should
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be under a clearance level, so you can't fucking abuse that kind of bullshit.
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Yeah.
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But if you do that, then you automatically...
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No, no, no.
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Of course.
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No, no, no.
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I know.
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It's an unfeasible thing, but it's just like...
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It breeds its own problems.
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Right.
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But that just...
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It can't be allowed into the wrong hands.
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That's that kind of instinctual reaction you have to it.
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I viscerally agree with you, and it's that same thing of the lie travels around the world
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before the truth gets out of bed.
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It's so much easier for this to propagate, and people...
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It's a more compelling, interesting story that the government is trying to poison the
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water.
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Right.
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It triggers your brain's desire for stories.
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And because of the intersection between capitalism and journalism, and science journalism especially,
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nobody wants to read headlines that are like, incremental benefits shown might occur based
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upon these controlled variables being applied in this specific fashion.
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Let's also not get into ideas about how accusations of well poisoning are also a deep, rich, anti-Semitic
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tradition from history.
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Oh, boy.
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So it also triggers that a little bit, and it has that same sort of visceral history.
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So Dr. Glidden...
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Why am I calling him a doctor?
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Yeah, that should be...
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Mr. Glidden.
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Not a Dr. Glidden.
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Pete.
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So Pete.
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Yeah, he's just Pete.
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This guy sucks.
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He tells people not to get chemo and shit.
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God damn it.
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But he got in a little bit of trouble because he was calling himself a doctor, and that's
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not cool.
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And I love the way he describes this, like getting in trouble.
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This is so awesome.
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This is a 30-second little clip, and what he does is like, you first of all are amazing.
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You're a delusion.
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And then second, you belong on Alex's show.
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The only reason we put up with this nonsense is because there is not a free medical market
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in the United States.
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There isn't.
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You want a perfect example?
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The state of Illinois just fined me $5,000 for putting the word doctor on my website.
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$5,000.
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The only person that can call themselves a doctor in the state of Illinois are people
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that have MDs after their name.
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It's ridiculous, ladies and gentlemen, which is why the best thing you can do for your
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health if you're suffering from a chronic disease is fire your MD now, get on board
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with medical nutrition, and take your health back.
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That's an ad pivot.
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He did an ad pivot as a guest.
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That was a fucking, wow.
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Because firing your doctor today is the name of his show.
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Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
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Holy shit.
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I don't know if I've ever heard a guest do an ad pivot.
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And he did it so smooth.
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That was, I bet Alex was even like, whoa, holy shit, good work.
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It's like he heard the music come in and he must have listened to Alex's show, or maybe
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he does the same thing on his show.
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Right, right, right.
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Maybe on fire your doctor now, he does a lot of ad pivots.
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Maybe that's where Alex got them from.
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Yeah.
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Man, that was smooth as silk.
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He's saying, the state of Illinois charged me $5,000 for saying I'm a doctor when I'm
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not a doctor.
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What's the fucking, what kind of oppression will we live in?
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I can't call myself a doctor?
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There's no free medical market because I can't just go to school.
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He was actually calling for free tuition.
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That's what he was doing.
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I mean.
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I think that's right.
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I still, he's also.
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He still would never have become a doctor.
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No, no, no.
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He's also calling for, you don't have to do homework.
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Yeah, exactly.
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You don't have to do any of that.
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That's true.
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It's not free tuition, free degrees, which is a mess.
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Yeah, that is unfortunate.
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So.
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Just the balls on, they won't even let me call me a doctor.
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It's me calling me.
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You can only call yourself a doctor if you have a doctorate.
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I don't even actually think that's true.
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Like if you're a DO, I think you can call yourself a doctor too, like a doctor of osteopathy.
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I just think that if you're a naturopath, you can't call yourself a doctor because it's
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misleading.
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Yeah.
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Because you're lying.
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Right.
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Because you're not.
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So I think that this interview is low key super important.
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And it's one of the few times that I think it's totally not interesting to anybody outside
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of our world probably.
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But to me, this next clip is one of the biggest case studies for like, what could have happened
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if people paid attention to Alex?
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How differently could life have been if they actually paid attention?
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Here's an example.
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Rob Dew, the head of the Nightly News crew, he was out tubing, got caught in some rocks,
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ripped, I forget the names of it, the ACL, but also the other side of his knee.
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They said the two different doctors, 100% you need surgery, you'll never walk again.
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I said, listen, go to a chiropractor.
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He said, no, I'm going to go to one.
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I said, try to work that out.
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Six months later, he hiked four miles up a mountain with me and his knee is completely
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better.
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And he went to chiropractors and they worked it out and realigned it and told him the exercises
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to do and also to take, you know, high powered vitamins and minerals.
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And guess what?
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They didn't get to cut open his knee.
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Ted Anderson, they told him, you've got to have surgery on this knee.
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Six months on Beyond Tangy Tangerine, the essential fatty acids and other products from
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Infowarshealth.com, gone, gone.
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They absolutely do not want you to know this because they want to cut you open.
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They want to cut you open.
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So first of all, that's fucked up.
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That's illegal.
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You bet it is.
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That's illegal.
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You bet it is.
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You can't do that.
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You can't claim that you did.
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That's illegal.
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Uh-huh.
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That's super illegal.
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And this would have gotten Alex fined a very serious amount if anybody was paying attention
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back in 2013.
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Endorsements and testimonials are really interesting things according to the law.
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When you're advertising a product, one of the more powerful ways someone might try and
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discuss the efficacy of said product is to vouch for it working personally.
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I know this works because it worked for me.
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There are rules about how those are used.
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The FTC is pretty clear about how they can and can't be used.
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And one of the chief guidelines is that if you're expressing an endorsement from someone
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else, you have to accurately express their beliefs.
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You have to represent them accurately.
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So if Ted Anderson and Rob Doo don't believe that Young Jevity products were responsible
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for their knee recoveries, Alex just committed a crime.
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So they would have to under oath say, yes, absolutely, I have a reasonable basis for
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believing that Young Jevity helped me get my ACL back.
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What are those surgery scars?
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Hold on now.
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Furthermore, making unsubstantiated claims in the context of a testimonial in no way
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gets you off the hook for making unsubstantiated claims.
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If Young Jevity is marketing by having Alex talk about unsubstantiated and misleading
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medical claims, they are still liable for those claims.
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It's not like, hey, Alex said it's fine.
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That's not how it works.
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Also, by FTC rules, Alex really fucked up because, quote, an advertisement employing
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endorsements by one or more consumers about the performance of an advertised product or
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service will be interpreted as representing that product, that the product or service
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is effective for the purpose depicted in the advertisement.
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Therefore, the advertiser must possess and rely upon adequate substantiation, including,
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when appropriate, competent and reliable scientific evidence to support such claims made through
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endorsements in the same manner an advertiser would be required to if they had made the
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representation directly.
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Because he used two testimonials endorsements, the law now interprets this as a medical claim
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that needs to be supported by evidence in exactly the same way as if Young Jevity had
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come out and said, our product cures ACL tears.
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Because Alex used two examples, and at no point did they say something like, these results
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are not typical, or something similar as a disclaimer, he effectively committed a crime.
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Perhaps the most important breach of ethics here, though, is that the two testimonials
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are being offered, they're from people with material connections to the company they're
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making claims about.
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Rob Dew is the InfoWars Nightly News Director, and Young Jevity is one of InfoWars main sponsors.
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At this point, InfoWars Life and InfoWars Health are basically just resellers of Young
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Jevity products.
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Rob Dew's salary is in part subsidized by Young Jevity, so his testimonial is tainted.
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Now, it is completely ethical when Trump goes to one of his own golf courses, tweets out
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a lot of ads about his own golf courses, pays all of our money to his own golf courses.
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This is very ethical behavior.
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It's just because they're so great golf courses.
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They're great.
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Similarly, Ted is not an impartial party.
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He syndicates Alex's show, so he has a financial interest in promoting their sponsors.
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Additionally, Ted syndicates Peter Glidden's show, as well as the shows of multiple other
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representatives of Young Jevity.
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When Ted lost his license to sell precious metals, Midas Resources, his company, went
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back to reselling Young Jevity products.
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He is deeply involved with the company, so his testimony is deeply, deeply tainted.
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The FTC is pretty clear that using these sorts of testimonials are an example of deceptive
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marketing, which is 100% what's being done.
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A lot of that legal language is for parsing very specific, different, little, tiny changes
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here.
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It's a great example of the layman being able to understand the law pretty instinctively.
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When you hear that, if you have no idea, you have no familiarity with the American legal
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system whatsoever.
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You hear that and you're like-
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You don't know the FTC's a thing.
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Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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You hear that and you're like, no, no, no, no, that's not okay.
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Okay, that's bullshit.
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Yeah, yeah.
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We can't be doing that.
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Come on now.
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It's fairly intuitive in terms of what the guidelines are.
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You can't lie about what people endorse.
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You're fucking around if you have a financial interest that backs your endorsement.
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Right.
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Yeah.
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It makes a lot of sense.
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I know this is beating a dead horse, but in that very short clip, Alex Jones manifested
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multiple instances of behavior that are directly against the rules of the FTC.
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If anyone cared about what he was doing or paying attention in 2013, he could have been
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shut down years ago for using this kind of deceptive and possibly overtly illegal business
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practice.
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If the globalists actually existed and gave a flying fuck about what Alex was doing, they
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could have had him any time, which further reinforces my argument that Alex is pretty
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aware that he's fighting against an imaginary enemy.
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It further reinforces my argument that he is actually oppo, controlled opposition Dan.
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They are keeping him in there.
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That's the only way.
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It couldn't just be that he's at this point in time, irrelevant, pointless, and not worth
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anybody's time.
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Yeah.
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More trouble than it's worth to pay attention to him.
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I can vouch for that.
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That's my endorsement.
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Yeah.
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So we've got one more clip here because the rest of the show also isn't that great.
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It's a very uninspired stretch of a couple of days because I think he wants to go to
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the Super Bowl or he wants to watch the Super Bowl, he wants to overcompensate for how much
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he wants to watch the Super Bowl and then gets sidetracked by his utter excitement to
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go see Piers Morgan.
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And there's just not a lot of content.
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There's not much new stuff other than, like I said, the power outage conspiracy.
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And I just...
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I'm not interested.
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This is frivolous.
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It's frivolities.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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It's frustrating.
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But I told you, Jordan, that I believe that what Alex is up to vis-à-vis Young Jevity
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on this episode.
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Yes.
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Yes.
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Deeply unethical.
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Right.
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Now, Peter Glidden would like you to know.
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It's super ethical.
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He's cool, man.
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He's not up to fucked up stuff.
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What are you doing?
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Look over here.
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Come on.
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Sure.
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I'm a board member of Young Jevity.
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Sure.
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But I'm cool.
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It's not fucked up.
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Quick disclaimer.
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I'm a chill dude, bro.
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Yeah, I work for them, but don't worry about it.
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There's nothing messed up about what we're doing.
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Don't get chemo.
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Let's go surfing.
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Come on.
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He's really cool.
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And if you were cool, you would do the fucking stuff he does.
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By the way, Alex, full disclosure, I have extracted myself from the revenue stream of
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the vitamin sales in Young Jevity.
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Dr. Glidden does not make any money from talking up vitamins.
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I make zero.
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Quite frankly, I got sick of people saying, oh, Dr. G, you're just trying to make money
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selling vitamins.
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Well, guess what?
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I don't make any.
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My fiancé does.
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My son does.
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People in my family do.
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People in my community do because they're not stupid.
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I love that.
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I love that.
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Yeah.
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I'm not making money off my bullshit, but everyone I know is because they're not fucking
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stupid.
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That's so aggressive.
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Balls on the they're not fucking stupid part.
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That's amazing.
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That is amazing.
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Yeah.
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That's next level like bullying as a grift.
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I'm sick of people saying I only do this because I profit off of it.
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My fiancé profits off it.
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We have a joint bank account.
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I make withdrawals regularly.
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Sometimes I'll move some of her money into my only account that I have.
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It's I'm cool and you doing it is stupid.
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If you don't, if you don't do it, you're stupid.
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It's crazy to me.
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First of all, him talking about himself in the third person that makes me very uncomfortable.
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But then the second thing, too, if you really are listening to that, the I've extracted
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myself from the revenue stream.
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What does that mean?
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Legally?
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Who talks like that?
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Yeah.
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What does that mean?
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Legally?
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I've extracted myself from.
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I don't know.
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Well, as as we you know, time is a revenue stream.
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So you know, you get in, you get back in.
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You know, it's easy.
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Also, these people are liars.
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Yeah.
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Why would I take that as truth?
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Why would I don't profit off vitamins?
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I don't believe you.
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You've lied about everything else.
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You tell people not to take chemo because it's a conspiracy.
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Yeah.
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I don't care.
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I don't trust you when you say you don't make money off your bullshit.
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No, I trust him.
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OK.
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There's a difference between you and me.
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But I do like that claim because why the fuck not?
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I love the claim.
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Yeah.
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No, I mean, why the fuck wouldn't you say that bullshit?
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You're already convincing people.
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Look, if you if you're convinced by him not to get chemo against the wishes of your doctor,
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of course, you're going to believe that he's telling the truth on this one.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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Why not?
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Definitely.
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So, I mean, this brings us to the end of the episode.
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I mean, it's a bit shorter than normal, but I just, you know, there isn't there isn't
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a lot of, you know, stuff to go over.
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It's a no man's land.
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It is what it is.
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Yeah.
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And I wish, you know, I wish I had more, but, you know, I can only I can only do that, which
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Alex allows me to do.
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Yeah.
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I would love to manufacture the footage that Alex would have had he been able to videotape
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on CNN.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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I think there's nothing funnier than Alex begging to be back on.
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So sad.
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That was really exciting to me.
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I don't think there's anything funnier than my fiancee does it.
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Members of my family do it.
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People in the community do it.
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And if you're not, it's because you're fucking stupid.
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It's so weird to me that flex, because it starts from a place of like, I don't profit
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off this and you don't expect him to immediately talk about all of his family profiting off
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of his lies, which means that he does indirectly at best.
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Yeah.
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It's so weird.
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It's so stupid.
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Yeah.
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I love it.
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As are you.
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If you don't, if I don't feel well, clearly I haven't been doing it.
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So anyway, we'll be back on a Wednesday for another episode.
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But until then, we have a website.
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It's knowledgefight.com.
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Correct.
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We're also on Twitter at knowledge underscore fight and I'm at go to bed.
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Jordan.
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Yeah.
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We're also on Facebook.
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We are.
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And we're on the iTunes.
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We're on the other podcasts.
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Sure.
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Go to Libsyn.
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You could find a meme somewhere that might link to us.
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That might help.
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Um, I don't know.
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I think Peter Glynn's advice is probably, oh, he's totally killed.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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Not necessarily.
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Yeah.
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I mean, I guess second degree manslaughter.
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Yeah.
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I don't know.
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I don't know how to ethically put that other than to say bad.
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Yeah.
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Shake my finger.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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I don't know.
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I think we've used Piers Morgan before.
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Yeah.
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He seems like one of the only people in this, uh, this cavalcade, uh, that, uh, is above
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board.
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Yeah.
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Cause I'm not going to trust the, I'm not going to trust the first caller who is all
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about Molly, Molly Moroney herself.
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Oh, she's definitely not hurt anybody.
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Yeah.
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She's not killed anybody.
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She technically probably has as Alex Jones.
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Andy in Kansas.
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You're on the air.
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Thanks for holding.
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Hello Alex.
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I'm a first time caller.
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I'm a huge fan.
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I love your work.
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I love you.
