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Andy in Kansas, you're on the air, thanks for holding.
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Hello Alex, I'm a first time caller, I'm a huge fan, I love your work.
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I love you.
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Hey everybody, welcome back to Knowledge Fight, I'm Dan.
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I'm Jordan!
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We're a couple dudes who like to sit around, drink novelty beverages, and talk a little bit about Alex Jones.
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Indeed we are, Dan, Dan, if we had pretty much exhausted this bit beyond reasoning.
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I think we already did this version of the bit last episode.
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Oh did we? Alright.
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Well, you know way too much about Alex Jones.
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True.
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And currently, I also know way too much about Alex Jones, however, we have varying degrees of where our line is.
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You know a little bit less, and I know a little bit more today.
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Yes.
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I have found some very juicy business for us to go over today, but before we get into today's episode...
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That really does water down the show, it's like, I know a little bit more about Alex Jones and he knows a little bit less.
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Yeah.
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And therein is the rub, like, well, that's not really a...
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We've both made up our minds, and uh, eh, who cares.
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Um, so today...
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We do a show about a piece of shit. Alright.
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Something that's not a piece of shit is our new donor.
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God, that's some great transitions.
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That wasn't my favorite, but uh, something that is my favorite is our new donor.
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HAHAHAHAHAHA
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Two layers.
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Great, great.
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I'd like to give a shout out and a thank you so much to Christopher, you are now a policy wonk.
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I'm a policy wonk.
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Thank you so much.
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Thank you so much Christopher!
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Christopher Robin, in theaters in August.
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I believe he's our new sponsor very excited about that that movie is our new sponsor
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And as I told you the other night when we were hanging out
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I played Winnie the Pooh in a fire prevention skit when I was in seventh grade
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It's true. So me and Christopher Robin go way back. Yeah, although I
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Wasn't allowed to play Christopher Robin or the more appropriate character Eeyore because I was a bummed out kid
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Yeah, I'd play Winnie the Pooh. I said Oh bother with the best of them. Anyway
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Let's get into the pantheon of Oh bothers me Winnie the Pooh Winnie the Pooh, that's it
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So today Jordan we have a very interesting episode to go over and I'd like to start things off with an out of context drop
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from Alex Jones
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In the video I finger
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He fingered Soros
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So that's fun that is fun in the video I finger Soros that's and that's edited that's
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Added it Dan. I'm telling you. That's not the context
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man, you're you're the project Veritas of
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Alex Jones finger fucking people only for the first few minutes of the show and then we get real serious business
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So today Jordan what I wanted to do over the weekend and right towards the end of last week
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We saw our old buddy our good friend
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Live in his best life Roger Stone get named without being named in an indictment of 12 Russians who hacked
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the DNC bring George Soros
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behind the entities the DNC leaks and goose for 2.0
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And Roger Stone was forced to go and embarrass himself on national television. It's pretty great having Chris Cuomo be like, what are you talking about?
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Earlier today you said that wasn't you and it's clearly you my favorite part you released the
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Private messages that are completely a one-to-one match with what's in this indictment
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Well, yes now that it now that it's later in the day. I am saying that it's probably me
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You were saying that Roger was thrown
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I think it was a little bit but I've realized that one of the things that threw him the most is that Chris Cuomo used
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One of him and Alex's big catchphrases before Roger could to take the power out of it
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Okay, when Chris Cuomo said I know I know they can indict a ham sandwich, but oh, there you go
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That's one of their big catchphrases now Roger can't use it
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He took that off the table, right? And I think Roger was like you motherfucker you son of a bitch
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That's all we have to do. We just have to cuck out their saying you just have to use it before they do in an
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Interview and apparently every time every every interview we do the first thing we should say is like and I know you're gonna try and
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Cuck me out on this one and then they're gonna be like, I don't know what to do
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Fuck and then before you know it, he's like, well, actually they can also indict a cheese sandwich
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Damn it, Roger. You're too good
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You're the slipperiest and as I explained to you what I got to witness in that interview was the evidence that Roger Stone isn't
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really as good as we think he is like we have a an
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Elevated version of his trickiness because he's always against Alex Jones, right?
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he's up in that world or back when he could just yell at people on CNN and stuff like that back when he could call
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people like
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You know pretty racially charged things like yeah, I think he called Don Lemon a mediocre Negro or something
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No, that was someone else. Yeah, yeah
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It was at least oh no, no, we all know he said some racist shit. Nobody can remember the
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action hires
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Then he could be slippery in a way that he's baiting you and make it trying to make you angry
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Right, but now he can't really play that game
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It doesn't because he'll get kicked off and he won't be invited back on it. It doesn't really work as well
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so it's like it's like a it's like Duke playing a
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a
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Kentucky like a whatever whatever it is like a
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Winnemax state or something like that where it's like, all right on
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Infowars Roger Stone is
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Dunking on people right? No competition whatsoever. Well, it's it's like yeah
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It's like a rockin jock b-ball exactly and then he goes on CNN and he's like, oh shit. This is this is level
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I'm I'm out of practice on this. I've been on Infowars too long. I've been playing with children exactly
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Oh hosting a show with Owen Schroyer
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Can't handle a real question. Yeah, this is I could I could lie in the morning in the evening and
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Nobody would question me on Infowars
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I could lie from one sentence to the next and contradict myself and everybody be like, yeah
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No, no, that's the smarter thing to do is contradict yourself. I love it
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And I I like I like realizing that maybe his muscles have atrophied more than we realize
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Yeah, but so I saw all that stuff and I thought well
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this is interesting because
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When we started the show is the beginning of 2017 and so we had some current stuff in 2017
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And then we largely focused on going back to 2015 to the beginning of Trump's candidacy
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To track Alex's path and one of the things that we didn't do all that much of a look at is looking at
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2016 and that's because it became
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Fairly pointless once we realized the transition for Alex getting on Trump's wavelength
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Yeah, and that so it just seemed like it wasn't all that important
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But I realized that if you look at that indictment there are dates in there and I thought oh, man
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I thought maybe it would be interesting to go to
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The exact day day the day after Roger definitely is in contact with Russian hackers
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Okay, and see what happened on Infowars see if there's anything interesting. That's a smart move now. I'll tell you this
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Something that is very interesting to me is that there is a YouTube channel that I largely get most of my episodes from
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It's a guy named Ron Gibson who has a channel on YouTube that'd be hilarious if it was Ron Guccifer. That'd be funny
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So this channel is clearly in league with Alex Jones in terms of like it has permission to yeah
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Yeah, we post these things he posts by the hour update
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So it's like there's a chunk of Alex's first hour second hour third hour as separate videos
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Yeah, and then a commercial free entire show afterwards. Yeah, so like he's
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Every day. I don't think it's one guy. I don't I
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as you're saying this I don't understand how I never thought to ask like if he is just
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Reposting Alex Jones videos. Why aren't they sending DMCA complaints?
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He's at the obvious point though. The obvious point is he works
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Yeah, or it's an Infowars operation to begin with because also reposts
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all of the special reports Alex does it reposts and
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Posts as one of the only places you can find them like the war room
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Yeah, and David Knight show and now we haven't even talked about this but Mike Adams has a Sunday show now what yeah
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Who cares it's not important fair enough. So I was like, okay
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That's where I get most of my episodes from you go into YouTube search for August 16 2016
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19 nothing. It's one of the only episodes that Ron Gibson does not have on his
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Page you can find August 15th. You can find August 17th
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It's interesting that this episode is not that one specific episode now
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I'll admit that there is a benign explanation that isn't entirely possible so many but I know maybe he was sick
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Maybe you know, I don't know we've had an episode go missing that happens from time to time happens possibly
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You know, there is a benign explanation that I would accept although it looks very sketchy
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Now let's is that because August 15th Roger Stone was in contact with Guccifer 2.0
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Mm-hmm. All right, but he was probably not in contact by the time Alex was on air
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On the 15th, but on the 16th all of that shit is wide open and today we're going over August 16th 2016
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Don't don't don't because I found another version of it not on that channel. That's clearly affiliated with Alex Jones
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Yeah, one else had posted. Yeah
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It's an air we will watch that and see if we can find any context clues as to suspicions going around your
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Your like knowing grin is delightful and can actually be heard through your voice
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Yeah, probably everyone is like Dan has got something. Hey guys. Hey guys spoiler alert. There's some big coming up
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But first let's deal with some small stuff. Okay, this is how Alex kicks things off as we know it's something he's
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Sort of how he makes his bread and butter. It's mostly white fears
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So he's scared that the UN is gonna do some bad stuff to whites
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Oh the video that we shot on Saturday is titled shocker
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Ulan admits migrant crisis plan to overthrow the West and in their own words
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This isn't accurate. They say basically get rid of white people now
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They're selling this to the 90 plus percent of the planet that isn't white and most of which happen to be third world
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That this is a reverse colonialism conquering the West
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The third world populations are being used as cannon fodder
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Remember the global government tree that was leaked in
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Two thousand and eight the Copenhagen text and what did it say?
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Now we're going to write at double
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It was right below doubling one point below doubling the taxes on the third world that the West would pay so
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That's I mean, I don't understand what that means
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It doesn't mean anything because he doesn't remember the details of this because it's years later
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Who is paying taxes on the third world? That's not that's not at all. What?
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He's just he's using numbers where they don't belong. Okay
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So this is about this thing called the Danish text not the Copenhagen text, but in fairness to Alex
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It was released during the Copenhagen climate summit in 2009. Not 2008 the big issue that people had with the text petty
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fair
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The text this it wasn't just like a text message like you up. Okay. All right. All right. All right. All right, Dan
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Um, it was it did seem to illustrate
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Basically a public or sorry private arrangement that was being worked out in many ways to subvert the Kyoto Protocols
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There was between the United States the United Kingdom and Denmark at least rare probably other actors involved
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But the issue that people had with it was one it made a distinction between power levels of countries
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Which was stigmatizing to countries that were deemed vulnerable countries because some of them were over nine thousand
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Or is that what all right?
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People are gonna get that and the fact that you don't is gonna make them laugh
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I was really trying to focus on the the the fact you said you said power levels
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So it's gonna happen power level nine thousand. It's over now. It's a it's a so our man five thousand
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No, so there's this anime. Oh, this is why I don't get it. Okay, never mind
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Dragon Ball Z now Goku he is he's a saying he's not from this go talk to hotel Jesus
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I don't want all kinds of stuff going on. All right
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To be fair listeners do love your Dragon Ball Z talk. So maybe you should keep going
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And then Vegeta comes he's an original saying that there's only two left from the planet and they work for Frieza
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It's a whole mess. All right, so I'm telling you right now, right?
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So the second problem was that it's a okay attack
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It took a lot of the negotiating power away from the UN proper and allowed other entities to have a greater stake in the implementation
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Concerns of climate change rules and stuff like that and then we get back to the numbers that Alex is talking about
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It's not taxes
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It made an imbalance between rich and poor countries in terms of emission standards that they would have to reach by
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2050 for rich countries they could admit two point six seven tons per capita as opposed to poor countries with one point four four tons
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So that is about double or so. Yeah, you know, that's probably what he's talking about. Yeah these numbers
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Yeah, the emissions that would be allowed between these countries and this caused a quite a fervor during this climate change
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Conference and led to some some rank of disagreements and rightfully so I think I mean, I don't think it's right that these
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So if I understand it, let me try and rephrase this in a way that makes sense if I understand correctly
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The rich countries are allowed far more leeway with their
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emissions than the poor countries and despite the fact that the poor countries
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Probably rely further upon those emissions to not be poor
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Right in order to in order to break out of poverty, right?
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And I think the guiding principle of that is something we talk about sometimes. It's just a little bit perhaps idealistic
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It is building up third-world countries in a better way
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Exactly. Yeah, and you'd hope that just by virtue of newer technologies we have they would have a lower emission rate
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Whether or not there was a cap there or but at the same time you could view it as like well rich people get to
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Drive in a car four times a week and poor people get to drive in a car twice you could yeah good and no matter
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What I think shadowy background deals and stuff like that
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I I do think that Alex is correct in referencing this as like something that's you know being done
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Clandestinely, but he's still lying about it. Yeah, it's one of those things. It's like nobody wins. Yeah, it's kind of a push but
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Eh, who cares right?
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So now we get into Alex's rambling about how he doesn't like things that are tax-exempt which fair enough
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But then he says something really I mean, this is a Christian nation though. It's true
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But there's something he says at the end of this clip that just really made me black
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Just like you see a cop card. It says tax-exempt
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The cop themselves is a bad person
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But that idea that the state is tax-exempt and can give state powers to private corporations making themselves exempt
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They then organize higher taxes on everybody else
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Bring in third-world populations to be their enforcers and it's game over by the way
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That's actually in the documents as well. Now. They're going to use the illegals as the new constabulary
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That means the enforcers, but first they have to remove the old
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Constabulary, I'm Alex Jones. This is the program to defeat globalism
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All right
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Is a really bad plan
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Oh, dude, we're gonna get to an even worse plan here in a little bit that he has in his mind
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but yeah, like I don't know I all I hear there is like wha and then the this fear of
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Illegals coming in as some sort of like police force. Yeah constabulary. Yeah. Yeah, you know how the government
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even under Obama
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deported
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What almost like a million people? Yeah, they were really planning like in a short order to instead of deport people
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Give them badges right and then have them fight the regular cops
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And you know, of course, they would no longer call themselves cops. They would call themselves constables
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Anything I know about illegal aliens, it's that they really adhere to British customs. There's no doubt. Yeah
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and I mean
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The other thing that you have to take away from this is like when he says the old constabulary
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Yeah, he's not talking about the cops. He's talking about white people. Yeah, it's all just replacement fears
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Sorry about the the KKK cops, right? Okay cops Keystone
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cops, yeah
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So whatever. I don't care. That's just more like this is the head space
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He's in I still think this is more interesting than present-day quite frankly already
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We're only a couple clips in and I'm already like I I'm more interested
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Well, he said something interesting about that
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Climate change agreement. Well, like that's an interesting thing that I didn't know that you confirmed is true
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So that's fascinating true true. No, it's like a two truths and a lie. Yeah, that's sort of the best-case scenario for Alex
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Yeah, we playing a party game
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We haven't played two truths and a lie on this show in a long time when we talk about the present
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It's just it's just lies. Well, here comes another lie. Okay, ladies and gentlemen
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we have to have a little bit of fun with the decline of
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the fun larcasian
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We have to have some gallows humor, but this is going to be an incredible transmission today
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Particularly we had a major Stanford Research Institute study
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Confirming
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Democratic election fraud on a massive scale to steal the election from
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Bernie Sanders now, I know you already know that I know we chronicled that you're on air and the Republicans tried the same thing with
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Donald Trump
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But because he fought back they failed and that is a lesson to us on every front about fighting back
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But that is the big news today. That's the big news. I
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Actually disagree. There's much bigger news, but this is his big news. So his big news is there's this Stanford study
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Stanford Research Institute study
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What do you what's that noise that's an unfamiliar noise on our
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Stanford Research Institute. I was just saying what he's very specifically. That's what he said. Okay, but that that's not where this came from
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Yeah, spoiler alert. Yeah, this wasn't a Stanford study and it was not even a study. It wasn't you don't even get both right. No, you don't even get one right.
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It was an on peer-reviewed paper claiming to show election interference citing exit polls
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It asserted that Hillary Clinton did better in states where there was no paper trail to
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Votes that you could follow back up on
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But even just a cursory glimpse over their data shows that they did an incomplete job with the data
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They counted states where there were multiple ways of voting like paper votes
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Yeah machines with a paper trail or machines without a paper trail
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Like if you had a state where there were multiple options and one of them was the machines with no paper trail
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They just counted the entire state as one with no paper trail
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Okay, I gotcha. They completely just had incomplete this would never
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If there's a 66% paper trail, but not a hundred percent paper
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They counted like a 30% no paper trail that counts as a no paper trail state
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Yeah, so the issue that you come to is like if this ever were put in front of a review board or any other researcher
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They'd be like this data is corrupt. It's not it doesn't it's not indicative of of
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Reality, this is some Pruitt level David data right here. You guys are so corrupt. Yeah, it's it's nonsense and further
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It was not put out by the Stanford Research Institute's
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It was written by two college students one named Axel Gijssel of Tillsburg University in the sounds like somebody I want to trust and Rudolpho
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Cortez Baragon of
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Stanford University and then it was disseminated on a website called the burn report and published and pushed on social media even the authors
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Admit in the paper. They had no time to peer-review any of their findings. Yeah, so what this is is
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Something it's classic info wars data
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Yeah, and you know what if you want to have a conversation about Bernie getting screwed go for it
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But why let's let it go, right?
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but I mean if there there's a conversation to be had possibly about the unfairness of the
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Democratic National Convention
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committees. Oh, do you mean like Clinton endorsing Cuomo for governor over?
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There are there are there are plenty there are a hundred issues
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There are a lot of examples, but this isn't one of them
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No
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Like that and that is what always strikes me and brings home like how little Alex really cares about the things he's talking about
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Right, you could bring in something real
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But instead you go for the much flashier the fast-food version that isn't actually beef or whatever. There's a reason
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McDonald's is over 99 billion served. Well, absolutely
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I know why Alex has millions of listeners and we have anyways, so have you ever trusted anybody named Rudolpho?
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I don't think I could do it. I'm not sure I've ever met anyone named
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An untrustworthy name to me. I know that there's one it's too white. It's too white. The name Rudolpho is too white
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it makes me think of like a
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Reindeer from the North Pole going on vacation to like Germany Cancun. I like trying to fit in
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He's got a mustache a fake mustache
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So he's so he's adding some Latin flair to it is what you're thinking. He's trying to lay low
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summer months
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Down there having some surveys. Oh, no, I am Rudolpho
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My nose glows green the rojo-nosed reindeer
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How you see red
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Prop I just know French. Yeah Rouge
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Anyway, we're getting some more Rudolph a we get some more dumb bullshit here Alex talking about these leaks
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of Soros's doc
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The emails and memos and stuff like that sure we get into a lot of that he's very into that on this episode because it
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only happened a couple days earlier a lot of the days
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Especially the Soros emails and memos were published mere days before this
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You know before you continue and again apologies for interrupting and screwing up the throat of the clip
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But there is something I I think is interesting about his his non point that he makes
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We're in because there's wherein he says that the DNC was trying to steal the election from Bernie
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Right, right and the and then he says that the RNC was trying to steal it from Trump
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Yeah
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but one of them won and one of them lost which is really interesting to me in a reflection of how
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Politics actually works like the Republican
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moderate whatever it is have
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Have zero control anymore. Like it's all lunatics on the right-wing side. Right? Right. Whereas the Democrats have
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Republicans in control like Republicans from the 90s in control of
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Actual progressives, right? So, of course, they have a larger block of like let's hey guys
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We can't be having these crazy ideas out there of like people's lives getting better stay
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Need status quo all the time. Mm-hmm. So it's it's fascinating to me that the
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Democratic Party is set up in such a way as
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They will always defeat the crazies and the Republican Party is set up in such a ways as they will never defeat the crazies
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Yep, that's an interesting thing that he pointed out by accident that he doesn't even really understand
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Yep
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Sorry, I found that to be an interesting thing
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It's very interesting. I'm processing it. I apologize. No, I'm processing it. It's more it's more indicative of like him explaining why he has a career
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Yeah
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It is kind of indicative of that and although I mean cuz anybody else wouldn't put up with this kind of nonsense, right?
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And now they're developing a national police force
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For each of those countries from Sweden to Germany to France and they admit that they are linking up with Muslim leaders
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Online to arrest anyone criticizing Islam in any way. The London mayor is also announced an initiative to arrest you and your family
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So, yeah, we have a hundred percent arrest rate of you and your family and
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I'm scared of what the London mayor is trying to do as I sit here in Chicago
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City con wants
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Nonsense
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Is by all accounts a
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Delightful man who and progressive no intention of arresting neither you nor your family
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Nor people even broadly related to you know, but this is sort of a foreshadowing of Alex becoming good friends with Tommy Robinson
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You know, that's where the idea of hate speech
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being curtailed
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In in England and the UK is somehow
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Like if you question Islam, you're going to prison that sort of thing. Yeah. Well, I mean like we have to we have to
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Fucking pump the brakes. This is something Alex never does on his show because he lives in this dumb
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Idealistic bubble that like a child would that imagines that every place is the same
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Yet he is a nationalist, you know that idea. Yeah
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He seems to think that our Constitution applies to every country
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And so like when there's hate speech laws in the UK that we don't have here first amendment
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He's furious about first amendment exactly first amendment. Why won't they?
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Have his first amendment. Why don't the British even understand the First Amendment? Yeah, exactly. There's this stupid stupid thing
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That's like you want universal global laws
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Yeah, like that yet at the same time you're mad at the idea
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It's it's very crazy to me because I don't I don't know enough like I haven't done
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copious amounts of research into free speech laws in the UK
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But from everything I understand their free speech laws are not super confining
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They aren't super repressive, but they do have a lot more allowances for
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Stifling hate speech than we do. They've also that but that's that's once that's something that's interesting to me
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especially recently because they have just recently
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Recently curtailed free speech laws in a way that has not been done for a long time to the point where activists
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They're kind of worried about that
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Sure, so so that is it that is such a point counterpoint to that
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You know, do we have two lacks free speech laws versus are we?
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is any free is any free speech law going to eventually lead to this is the
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Suppression of speech that should be I don't know or shouldn't be suppressed. I don't know, you know
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It's just fascinating now as we see the global alliance of nationalists as though like hey
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Hey, I hate you join up with me
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Let's let's get together and get rid of all these people who aren't nationalists so we can become nationalists together
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Let's have a global alliance of nationalists who take out the globalists who are definitely not Jews. Absolutely
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That's definitely let's definitely rely on archaic Jewish stereotypes and anti-semitic tropes from history in order to demonize
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This group that we don't like while becoming a global entity
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Which is what we seem to be against in this group that we're demonizing with anti-semitic tropes from history
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Right cool, man, right on top of it cool. Everything makes sense
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I do think that your your concern is much more interesting and I don't know. I don't have an answer for that man
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I have no idea. I don't know. I don't think I don't believe
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Because it's something that comes up and stand up a lot this idea that like you
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Limit any speech and it limits all speech right and I don't really necessarily believe in that
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Like cuz we have similar versions of that like I know it's a really hacky sort of thing to say but like
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You can get in trouble for yelling fire in a crowded building. Yeah, like you can get in trouble for
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Um threatening someone with violence like they're already limits on free speech
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You can't extort people like that sort of shit. Yeah, it's just speech man
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That is just speech but you're given the option to be extorted or to not be excited. You can't make threats
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You can't do that sort of thing
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So like the idea that any limit on speech is a limit to all speech
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I think is contradicted by the fact that we do have just basic
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Limitations on right on what is just and they only and that the only argument against it is
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the slippery slope argument
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Right, which either comes true or doesn't and it's not an actual argument that you can really make as something
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You know like and and more importantly the slippery slope is a logical fallacy. Exactly. Yeah, that's it
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That's what I'm saying
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If you make an argument based on like what what will become of this then all you're doing what could become of this?
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Yeah, right. Yeah, it's all fucking stupid. It's all stupid
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So remember earlier when I told you that Alex had a worse plan than the dumb plan you came up with
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Yes, listen to this shit. It's crazy. Wait, I came up with that plan. No, no, no, you were who cares
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Alex has a bad plan
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This this is really happening
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First of all, I just wanna pause right there just to say anytime I hear Alex say that it means to me
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This ain't happening. This is it was really happening. You wouldn't need to say it was really happening, right?
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It's the same way really as a kid. I read Dave Barry. I'm not making this up. Look you're making yeah
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You're obviously making this up
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Stop selling, but let's just go over the stack of news today on this subject
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Oh, that's on sex on sex mega banks above the law tax-exempt diplomatic immunity
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Going in with education programs to create absolute
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total
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homicidal hatred of anyone with white skin and
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and teaching them to hate capitalism and teaching them that you must go to the United States or Europe or Australia and you must
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Capture it politically as leftist political and that you must then take over government and create a utopia
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Now this is taught in Mexico. This is taught in Nigeria. This is taught in Sudan
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This is taught in South Africa. This is taught all over places like Venezuela
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Nicaragua El Salvador, they're all running programs as of this year for all of those countries
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It's very reasonable to hate white people. Does he not understand why those countries every country?
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He's named also has like a historical event where you're like, no you guys should hate white people forever
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You put that aside for a second. Okay, you miss the last thing he said there and this club isn't done
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But the last thing he said there is these programs have been in place as of last year
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We're right to me is like, okay, so great. They're indoctrinating kids in school as of last year
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Which means they're in fourth grade as of last year fifth grade now
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Hmm they get a year or two of indoctrination. That's all you need
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So we get ten-year-olds who now hate anyone if a homicidal hate of people with white skin
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All right finish your thought give them give them 30 more years and they're gonna fit they're gonna finish the job finish
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Let's let's let Alex finish the job on his stupid thought
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Officially organized with the UN to bring in people from all over the world
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That land on airplanes and come in on ships. They're not allowed to stay there and then they are bust
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All the way to the United States where the Border Patrol waits for them and loads them on buses to ship them into Democratic Party
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Facilities who then they give them ID cards set them up on full welfare
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More than a Social Security recipient real quick. He is going to town with all white fears
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The real reason that he's saying that and he made a very specific point of saying like they're getting more than a Social Security recipient
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It's cuz he fucking knows that most of his audience is old and white. Yeah, they're very scared of this idea that I only get
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$1,300 a month. I'm on a fixed income. What do you mean? They get 2,000?
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Meanwhile, there are very clear laws about being able to take any welfare
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Programs if you are an immigrant who comes legally or illegally now you come illegally
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There's no way you can't they've been in place since last year and as we all know
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Democrats had complete control of the Senate though the house and the White House at the time right in
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2015 all of it. It definitely wasn't an entirely Republican Congress. That'd be crazy, right?
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But you know again this just bears mentioning Alex
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It doesn't like those Republicans now, although he did almost jizz on himself
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Talking about how great it would be if Ted Cruz ran for president look mere years earlier
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Yeah, so I bet he votes for Beto. So Alex. Yeah, I bet he does. It's better better for him
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It's way better for him. Yeah. Yeah
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That would be interesting. Uh, but we can't speculate about someone's secret voting habits, but
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He's but Ted Cruz votes for I want he's like he is way better for this country than me or just I want to get
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Out, but I can't quit exactly. Yeah. Yeah
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And
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Then large portions of that money is skimmed and given back to the organized crime combine. So what do I hold on?
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The NFL every year runs an organized crime rookie combine
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They have to take the the test in order to no, no, no, no, no, okay
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So we have kids being indoctrinated in schools as of a year ago
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yeah, and now somehow they're being sent in in league with the UN in league in order to come here and
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Then they are being sent to Democratic centers where they get tons of welfare
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But some of it gets skimmed off the top and sent back to the Democrats. It's already really expensive
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Is that their goal to begin with to fly so many people from the world and then bus them which seems like a lower
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In a way. Yeah, if you're getting taken across the border and then bus to like Nebraska take a train sugar
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You should get another flight
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Absolutely connecting flights. They've already they've already paid for the international flight
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What what Southwest isn't flying for like a hundred bucks? It's ludicrous. It's ludicrous
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Because here's why because like, okay, just the timeline of it makes absolutely
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The timeline is a good place to start. It makes absolutely no sense. They're busting a lot of 11 year olds in to vote
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I dismiss it out of hand like that part of it. I just say absolutely not
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I reject your premise good day, sir
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That sort of thing but then when you talk about like this idea that it's somehow a fraud for two reasons
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One is to get people to vote Democrat. Yeah, and the other one is to skim money off the top
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Yeah, skimming money off the top. There's better scams
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This seems like there'd be way too many cooks in the kitchen. Someone would talk like it would be so ineffective
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This scam is no good
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Secondarily. Yeah, you want people to vote Democrat Alex is already claiming that they're just voting in dead people's names and stuff like that
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So you don't need this if the Democrats are really doing that then they're just creating votes out of the ether
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They don't need this elaborate stupid plan
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It makes no sense. None of this even with the motivations that he's pretending these villains have
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Yeah, it makes no sense. All it is is to scare old white people what they found out or what they found out
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This is the grave diggers of political radio
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It costs ten grand to get a dead person to vote. It costs eight grand to fly in an illegal immigrant
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This is just pure mathematics. That's just cuz you get to skin that two thousand exactly. That's what I'm saying
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But I mean they think dead people are voting but it's actually a legal immigrant stand
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The problem that Alex really never never wrestles with is like the second and third stages of the plans that he's like
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Enumerating because the other thing apparently neither do the globalists. Well, the other problem isn't like if this scam exists
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It's got to exist counter to in with all of the other like in
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2016 he's still like fairly pizza gate. Yeah
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Oh, yeah, you gotta have that part in there too. You've also you have to have all of his elaborate scams
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Being like all true at the same time. Well, they have millions of people work at the globalists are have a global network
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There are millions millions of people millions of people working for them for a lot of their scams
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You don't need that many people you need like 30 or 40 people max
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Everybody's got to have a job
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So they got a lot of scams going in that they got a lot of plates spinning down fingers and a lot of pie
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Look when you have that many people you can come up with these harebrained schemes perhaps and you know what I know what they look
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Hey, sometimes companies fuck up, you know, sometimes companies do something like yeah, we we sort of fuck the dog on this, right?
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Right, right. That was bad money. Those bad money leading money, you know, like whatever don't worry
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We've got diplomatic immunity because apparently that is something that the mega banks can have
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I love the idea though that like this
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International cabal that's existed for hundreds of years
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If not thousands that comes down from like the black nobility and Venice and stuff like that
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yeah, like the idea that they also come up with like
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Shit, you know like the International House of Pancakes now having to be like, hey, we were fucking with you with that burger thing
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Yeah, yeah. Yeah, they're just you guys should have figured out the whole we're fucking with you with a burger thing
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Come on, you should have done better from the jump. Yeah, like you should have instead of now being like, haha
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We tricked you like no one was tricked. We all thought this was a stupid publicity. Yeah
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Yeah, like it's that same level of like business activity that he's fixing into the minds of the globalism
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Like they've been around for thousands of years and secretly run everything. They don't make mistakes like I hop
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Everybody makes mistakes Dan fair enough the globalists have run so many plans over the thousands of years
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They kind of come up with new shit. Otherwise they get bored
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Yeah, that might be they can't just keep running the same plan over and over again fresh. Yeah, absolutely
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Yeah, sometimes you open up that marriage to crazier schemes and that might even be the case with I hope I hate to keep coming
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Back to them, but maybe they were just bored like we've been in a holding pattern. Let's embarrass ourselves for real
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Yeah more pancakes guys. We got to do something crazy. We get it. You have waffles
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Yeah, also great mozzarella sticks a little too big
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We can't call ourselves the International House of crepes. Nobody's gonna buy that shit. We hate French people in America
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I used to live near an I hop and me and crepe eating surrender monkeys is what we call. They have plenty of crap. They have
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My dear friend Nate Burrows and I used to go to I hop for lunch every now and again
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It was right over by my old apartment not far and we would just be hungover as shit
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Yeah, it was always just the only reason you go to I was always about those way too big mozzarella sticks
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Yeah, all it was about these giant logs of mozzarella. Anyway, enough about this bullshit
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um, I hum this next I hums
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So in this
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This next clip Jordan. Yes. We have a situation where Alex this is a this is a little longer clip
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and I actually think it's a mic down clip because what we see is Alex Jones being a flagrant racist and
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misrepresenting Tim Cain
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The some comments that he had made Alex makes the mistake of playing Tim Cain's comments
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And it becomes very clear what Tim Cain means
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And Alex just he looks like a ding-dong on his own show
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It's so embarrassing and so disgusting. I love it. I love it. It's so great
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All right, but like down but at the same time I do I don't like how he never has to live with it
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You know what? I mean? Oh like this and this clip I'm about to play for you any right-thinking person who listen to this would
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Be like, oh, this is a this is a flagrant racist
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Yeah, like this is yeah
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This is a guy who's absolutely trying to turn an innocuous statement and maybe a very nice unifying statement
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Into something that is evil and anti-white some sort of white genocide sort of thing and it's absolutely not any
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inclusive message is
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Inherently anti-white. Absolutely. Yeah diversity is code for anti-white
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That's what white supremacists say. Yeah, and here is what Alex Jones who's also a white supremacist says
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We're just kept the network breaks too important. I mean, I'm serious
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This is just the end of the country the end of the world
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We're talking about here and the Border Patrol even comes out and says we've been ordered to complete the smuggling process
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That's how mega-massive all this is
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So let's continue
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Hillary's VP. We have the video of this coming up
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Hillary's VP whites must become a minority to atone for racism
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Just real quick take a second to take that in as the headline that he's reporting
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Whites must become a minority in order to make up for racism that makes sense
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Now again in this is the ultimate racism
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To experience what other people have gone through because only whites have oppressed anybody in history told a lie
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We must make whites a minority so they can be persecuted
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Is what he's saying and this is a white guy who's gonna lead this and organize all the different racial groups
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Who they're gonna put your kids in prison and teach them in the prison
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How according different racial groups how to kill each other he's gonna manage you
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But he's selling it to you the party of the KKK
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KKK
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It's particularly funny
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considering racial incarceration rates
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For Alex to be making this sort of stupid argument. Let's let's put white people in prison
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As your new time to shine
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This is incredible in fact, let's just play the clip of the man that would be the vice president probably the president when Hillary
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The other brain tumor goes at each the rest of that melon here it is
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For instance the most segregated hour of the week is 11 o'clock Sunday morning, and that was a challenge to me
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And so I've made my spiritual home in a neighborhood where we're not segregated in fact
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We were when we started there one of a few white families in that church
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It's now a very well integrated church
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But it was important to especially I think the burden is on those of us who are in a majority
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You know Caucasians here you we got to put ourselves in situations where we're in the more minority
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Okay, so there are the the world is officially
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90% you're a nationalist anglo, and then if you look at the numbers, there's about three
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Percent of that are people that are identifying as anglo that you could argue aren't what three seven percent of the planet is anglo
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Okay
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But you would think what's the end of the world wait why don't even exist so I apologize for Europe
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And I apologize for the printing press and I apologize for the science and the medicine and everything else
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And I just am here to say this guy's absolutely right now. This is a sick evil race pimp great great great
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wait wait
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Wait, that's amazing wait. That's amazing wait wait
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the three percent
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3%
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Identify as anglo, but aren't so we've got not only is Rachel Dolezal a not
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Non-outlier she's she's just even crazier for doing it the wrong way because what she should be doing is identifying as white
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accidentally or incorrectly that
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3% what what is 3% who what's the 3% it's Jews right? He's talking about Jews
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I don't have the numbers in front of me, but I can't imagine it's not yeah
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I can start about Jews I feel I feel like my cuz he's not talking about black people just saying they're white
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My spidey sense tells me
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Well, I don't know cuz I mean what's this? No, that's that's trends and growth. I'm trying to find
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Demographic information I should have looked that up earlier, but
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It's just it's just it man. It feels like that's what he's saying. It's just 500 million Chinese people saying that they're white
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That's all he's talking about. He's just talking about the very well publicized
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500 million Chinese people who say that they're white. I mean the the like I
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want to say I mean
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Even without us being able to say exactly what he's talking about the idea of like now
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You're not white is the lightest thing ever. Yeah
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the idea that he has like an
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Exclusivity which is what we talk about all the time is the the notion of whiteness is is based on exclusion not on inclusion
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I don't know. You know, I don't I
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Don't I I man. I don't know. I wish I had those numbers. I think that's what I think
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I really want to know what is the who he's talking about
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We would like who does it like swore the Italians the Greeks like what is he talking about?
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I don't know any white person with a tan. You know what the issue is. It's like no matter what the answer is. It's bad
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No matter what it's like
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Also, if he's talking about the Irish, you know what go fuck yourself Alex. Sure
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We've been the whitest for a long time. There's no Sun where we come from
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We were grown in whiteness
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It's disgusting that that's sort of his take on like how am I gonna respond after this clip that I maybe should have listened to
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Before I played because what Tim Cain is saying is an actual a really good message
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Yeah, which is to say that he's telling a personal anecdote about the idea that he you know
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Church is one of the more segregated places in the world you have denominations and churches that are primarily black
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primarily white
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And there's that the twain doesn't usually meet
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And his idea of going into places that are not where you are
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The minority is something that is very helpful for everyone. Yeah, the idea the idea that that
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Here's what I want to say I was rambling around a little bit but the
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If you hear what Tim Cain said and you are against it what you were against is integration
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Yeah, you know what I'm saying? Yeah, the only never want to be around
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Too many black people or I only want it on my terms. I only want it if they come to me
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Yeah and come to my white
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barbecue
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Doesn't that sound right the idea that Tim Cain Tim Cain is espousing in that clip
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is that like it behooves you to put yourself in situations where you get to experience other people's cultures because that is a respectful and
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Empowering and enlightening thing to do and you know what else you learn by what else he's also really talking about is
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So many white people so many white people have never had the experience that black people have
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Just about every day where they're going into a situation where it's majority white people creates empathy
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Yeah, exactly
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For on that level and on the level of learning about how cultures actually work
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Absolutely, you learn about something instead of having a caricature of it from dumb right-wing news sites
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Well, and it is in in my world and and you know
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Clearly how many times have you seen like a young white comic go into a primarily black room and and be like
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I don't know how to act right now
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like their their jokes get thrown off that way that when I was seen much more examples of like as I
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Generally knew decent comics. Yeah, well many more times I saw them go in and it be no big deal
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Yeah, I saw like the it not because people pandered or anything
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But because when you go into situations where you are the minority you realize
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That it's not as big a deal as you think it's not a big deal
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You create unless you make it a big bingo exactly bingo you create this image in your head bit like
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Everyone there's gonna think I'm the other or any of that stuff. Generally people aren't doing that. That's you know, it's you thinking that yeah
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I cherish so much that the ability that I had growing up to be in so many different communities because like I said
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I talked about this before my dad was a religious studies professor
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And so he had friends that were like in in mosques from different faiths and walks of life
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And and we would spend time at the synagogue at the mosques. Yeah, and and have
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Break bread with all these families. Yeah and go to their houses for for
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You know
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Whatever the holidays the various faiths and it's such a rewarding thing because sometimes I'll be honest
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I'm a picky eater and I didn't like the food all that much. All right, but it wasn't you know
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It wasn't about that. It was about I think you just dog whistled your white bona fides. I really don't like
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I'm a picky eater, but I'm a big chicken strips guy. That's the whitest thing you can say
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I already said I went to IHOP very frequently. I'm not like I
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Don't I don't have a lot of food cred outside of spiciness
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but see I had the complete opposite experience and that's the thing when I was growing up I
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Only was around white people. It wasn't until I moved away that it was like, oh
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I am interested in like experiencing other cultures and meeting other people and I feel like if my family if so many families
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just like gave themselves the opportunity to go to places where they're
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Not white all of a sudden a lot of those conservative viewpoints just disappear
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Well, the the untrue parts do you know, it's the it's the the fears and the othering goes away when you recognize
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quite legitimately
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Everybody has so much more in common than they have out of common
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Infinitely more in common and for Alex to be fighting back against that and arguing that's a race pimp argument
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Yeah, it's crazy. And I made a point of stopping the clip early to say like he's
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Presenting it as like the headline is whites need to become the minority Tim Cain didn't say that
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He's saying putting yourself in situations where you aren't the you know, it's not all white people
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Yeah, very rewarding and it helps it helps everybody. Yeah helps you it helps
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Everyone else just imagine because we all come together. We have all much more empathy
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We have much more understanding as opposed to staying in our stupid bubbles and listening to world
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world net daily
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bright Bart and
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Jerome Corsi and all these these white supremacist narratives think about
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every single black child who was on the
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Vanguard of school integration in the 60s. Mm-hmm. You will never experience that
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No, if you're a white person, how could you ever even consider judging somebody who has been through that?
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Unless you spend a lot of time being in the minority in a lot of situations
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You'll never comprehend it. And if you judge them for their experience, you're fucking idiot. Totally you are
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Yep, that's all you can be that's the part that's much more difficult for me to talk about but I understand is just as valid and
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Absolutely more real which is the fact that the other I only say the other because we're white
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Yeah, you know like anyone else who is not in the Caucasian situation, right has to deal with that great band name the Caucasian
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I'm sure there's a neo-nazi
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Called that I'm positive. I
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Would go the other way. I think there's a black nationalist group called the Caucasian situation
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I bet there's both. Yeah, just one with has a Z and the other doesn't that's what I'm guessing
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But the one has the white has one has the SS as a Z. Yeah. Yeah, but the yeah
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It's more difficult for me to talk about that because it's an experience
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I don't have and it's impossible for me to really even relate to necessarily except for my limited version of
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Be being in situations where I was anybody even when I was in fucking elementary school
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I was in Hawaii like when I was for a couple years in elementary school
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We lived in Honolulu and me and my brother were two of four white kids in the entire school
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Hmm, so like I so when did you move back to America?
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I mean the mainland we came back in
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94 I think went to Missouri, but like, you know, I came back as well lived in Puerto Rico
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You're so far from America even even that hillbilly would say Puerto Rico
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Making it you don't know my hillbillies. I only know them. You only know your hillbillies. Yeah, but like yeah, I mean I
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Had that experience but it wasn't as
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Sincere, you know, it never will. Yeah, there's no way for a white person to ever understand what it's like to be black in America
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nope, I
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Mean there's not case closed. Yeah, so
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Let's move on to this next clip
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Yeah
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Anyway, my point of all that I believe is that Alex is like in real time
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You can see him just completely lying about Tim Cain's
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Comments and it's the only reason to lie about that is to stoke white fear and racial division
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Yeah, and the idea that he's arguing that he is trying to create racial division is is ludicrous and very irresponsible
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Hey, you know what? Whenever I hear somebody call for empathy. My first thought is you want to kill whites?
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That's obvious. Well, what else could there be to think if you're what are you asking me to put myself in like
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somebody else's walk of life that is trying to kill white people you saw and you know, what and
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Sounds like you would not be in the minority, you know
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You know, let's see, you know, it's strange. I
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I kind of think that that idea of white identity is kind of built around
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As you said earlier, it's built around exclusion not inclusion totally
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So in a certain sense, you could say he's correct the idea of empathy directly counters white people
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Which is why as my campaign statement
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soft yes on white genocide
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All right. Let's move forward. Okay in this next clip
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Uh, remember how we talked about Sadiq Khan earlier, but he's a monster. No, he's great. He's a great guy
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Alex thinks he's a monster even a good mayor. Well, everybody really likes him as a mayor
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Well, you don't know you don't know some of the stuff Alex knows. Okay?
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Soros hack reveals plot behind Europe's refugee crisis many of a manipulation cash for social justice
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Call in the group. I feel like that's a good or keep them under your control. It's among welfare
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Detonate burn cities and then start banning people's free speech to criticize your own program advertise Europe's open
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Advertise all the free goodies are there we're getting to that next get ready for it. Boom
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London mayor to set up police online hate crime hub. This guy is a Muslim. I did not see my Sharia law
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He says he won't follow the bricks. It will make
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London an Islamic State basically
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They are banning images of women in bathing suits on city-owned property billboards and buses
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Hitting and hitting hard. They're putting Muslim police chiefs in almost everywhere
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I mean it is fun and the reign of terror is on
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That's astonishingly racist
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Mm-hmm. I mean that's really it's breathtaking really racist Muslims can't be cops
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Yeah, no, and if they are that's they can't be like a general of the cops. No, they're in charge
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They have to move like our police chiefs
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That's a reign of terror because we just put terrorists in charge of the police and we can't do that
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We need white terrorists in charge of the police Dan. This is
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Fundamentally like like without any deconstruction that is some flagrantly racist
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That is really racist and we can that is old guy at a park racist
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Let's split this a tiny bit just because the the the rebuttal is always that Muslim isn't a race
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So it can't be race bad bad bad bad bad. You mean brown fuck off fuck off
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Fuck off. I only brought that up so you could make that rebuttal, which I agree with
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This is crazy. I mean, this is this is this is patent nonsense
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Yeah, it's it's all just in response to the idea of like trying to do a better job about like systematic
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Racial and religiously based hatred that's that's exists online
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I mean if you don't even if you want to pretend to to
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Entertain his argument replace Muslim with black and you clearly see how racist it is
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No, you also they have all these that all of these all of these black people are becoming police chiefs
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It's clearly a reign of terror. Like what are you fucking talking about? You old fucking racist piece of shit
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We've experienced that in the past. Yeah, but well, actually we've experienced it pretty much word-for-word in the past
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Yeah, it's all the same shit. I mean you let black people become president and then they're everywhere man
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I told you I texted you this and like this is something that's so like
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It's not like I I had a you know a passing understanding and like I knew a bit about
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You know the white nationalist uprisings that happened in the 90s and some of that shit in the 80s
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Yeah, but I didn't I I didn't know nearly as like I'd never watched videos of their leaders talk, you know
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Yeah, I watched this documentary the other day about Oklahoma City and about the roots of it, you know
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Yeah, obviously the roots were in Ruby Ridge and Waco should have never given you the truth
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I should have never given you that Netflix password
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well, but I've seen I'd seen similar things in the past, but what really like I
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and I could have watched this documentary in the past and not gotten as much from it as I did and what I got from
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It is watching the like white separatist leaders from the early days talk
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They use the same language that Alex does now like it's a parallel
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it's bizarre to watch if you go back and watch these guys who had like the the
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That that compound in northern Idaho. Yeah, you go and listen to those white
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Supremacists give their sermons. There's so much talk about sovereignty
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Yeah, there's so much talk about the ethnic identities. There's so much talk about this replacement fear
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Right. It's all in there. It's every everything is the same and
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That makes me think that we have been doing nothing for two years because it's like yeah
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You could just look at that and be like, yeah, that's what that's what he's doing
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Yeah, who was it? I I think me out a little bit. I read very obvious
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I read somebody recently who put forth a
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Solid statistical argument for white supremacy showing up in full strength every 30 years
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Yeah, like it may be it may just be correlation, but his his main point was like, alright
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So we got a shit ton of white supremacy now, right? What was 30 years before this?
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Uh, the neo-nazi movement. Yeah, what was 30 years before that regular? That was the the Nazi movement
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What was 30 years before that that was pre?
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Depression crash when everybody was totally against Jews and blacks and everything for 30 years before that is probably when the protocols that was
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That was the 1890s and 30 years but like it seemed and 30 years before that was the Civil War
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Like it's it's a weird weird. It's a weird coincidence that we it's like
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It's like somebody arguing that they're the full moon changes things where right, right? You're like no it's
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It's just you can you can see it and you associate it with but it might just be that we never learned from our mistakes
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And history ever has a way of going underground. Yeah back up. What was it?
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History doesn't repeat itself, but it rhymes something along those lines. That was the classic quote. It's a remix
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Yeah
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So the one thing just like R Kelly and is right nevermind
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The one thing that he's not a remix and that is always consistent through history the original version of ignition Alex Jones makes bad
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Predictions here's one of his predictions. Okay, okay from August always excited for a prediction of 2016. We talked to our
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Contact we talked to our
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pipeline to the Secret Service and
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And they added some very important information
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Dealing with Hillary staging a false flag against herself an
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Assassination attempt that lines up with our other information that comes from another source from another agency. Sounds all fake to me, baby
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Hillary's gonna false flag herself cool
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That seems like a dangerous plan Oh big time and dumb very dumb
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Yeah, very very dumb and now we we know that didn't happen
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Though the the accidental headline of like can a woman with permanent brain damage become president
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I don't think so. Oh, dude. Yeah, I mean you heard that earlier when he was talking about that tumor eats the rest of her melon
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Yeah, yeah, he's deep in the like she's she's about to die
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Oh for sure, like I didn't I didn't haven't you seen those pictures where she has bags under her eyes. That's clearly death
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I didn't leave in most of the times he's talking about that
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But like I would say a good third of this show is just him being like
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She's gonna die. Anyway, she's in a wheelchair secretly like that. That's sort of like, oh boy. Okay, so
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We know that from that clip that Alex's prediction is bad, but he has sources
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Yes, multiple sources one who has the information one who has confirmed the information interesting
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Got two sources. Now. There's two sources that he cites in this next clip
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Well now admittedly Zach is not on the run yet. No nor is he even in the fold?
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Yeah, but could be in the play but but but but all that aside those are credible sources
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Because they're probably made up these sources are real
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See if you can figure out what sources he's deriving some of his information from
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We are under attack. This is the 21st century war. It's economic. It's replacing humans. It's destroying the family
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It's turning us all against each other. This is a scientific attack and they tell you what they're doing in the movie The Kingsman
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They dumb it down that a wavelengths being sent out over the cell phones to cause our primitive brains to kick on and make us
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Kill each other. That's one of the source. That is a dumbed-down
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allegory of what's actually going on and it's
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Working with other billionaires to wipe out the population of the earth 99% to bring in a utopia
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Now you may have heard of that theme before moon raker second
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Telling you
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The allegory of going up into space while you bio weapon the whole earth
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You could put you only live twice up there the biological pathogen
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Runs its course like in 12 monkeys
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Phases out
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is designed to
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Mutate until it's no longer harmful like in the earth and repopulated with your eugenics dream
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They're telling you the plan like an endromist and jump in a strain, you know, how many more movies?
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Would you like this exact same theme to be it or that even take that out of it and just choose another?
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Science fiction movie like you could play this game with any movie like it's like inner space sure
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That's how we developed our new
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Surgery techniques, you know, what osmosis Jones was a documentary
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It cares like it just fucking stop it, you know
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Like this we never went to the moon but journey to the center of the earth was true. Absolutely the remake not the original
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I mean this this is just the sort of stuff that's embarrassing. That's just like I
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mean, I don't know like
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If you had a point you wouldn't constantly reference movies
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You know what I'm saying, which he doesn't like because Hollywood is a liberal propaganda machine part of the globalist
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Yeah, yeah, absolutely, but they have to reveal movie and that's why he watches every that's why he watches every movie
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So stupid so stupid. But anyway, so at this point we have we ever actually so you've done a lot of great work
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Thank you cataloging all of Alex Jones's beliefs not all of them
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have you considered also cataloging all of his movie references and kind of developing a
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Unified field theory of what Alex Jones prefers in a movie cuz I feel like he's a huge science fiction buff
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Oh, yeah, but that's just the dreams of men, right? But I mean like
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Surprisingly science fiction buff. Yeah, and we'll get we'll get into that. Okay. He says something a little bit later
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That's like oh I get I get everything
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Like a fan of David Lynch like he's he's all over the place man
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No, I think he was a fan of David Lynch because David Lynch agreed to come on his show
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I don't think that's true. I don't think he's actually a lynchian guy, right? Well, he didn't get the
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Wait, no, he did get the no he didn't he didn't get the OJ
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in Lost Highway
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Was it lost? No, it was a fuck it. Whatever you're talking about. I know
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Yeah, you know what I'm talking about whenever he got it way wrong. Who cares? Here's the point. All right
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We we we've been talking for about an hour now about like some of these petty narratives that he brings up
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And the reason that you can't ignore them are the things like Tim Cain
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That that clip stuff like that, but that are just outright. This is so fucking racist. Yeah the stuff about Sadiq Khan
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So it's crazy. Yeah, it's crazy
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So when I'm listening to that like I can't ignore that but when I got to this next clip was when I was like
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Oh, no, I was right to go back to this episode. Okay, because it starts with Alex rambling about George Soros
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And then something happens
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There's no future under this new world order and I don't care whether it's mi6 or the CIA or the FBI
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or
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Russians
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Everybody is coming together and realizing this new world order has got to be stopped
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I mean, we're gonna let some 87 year old crazy Nazi collaborator freakazoid
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become president and bring us into world financial ruin because he wants to lord over a bunch of poor people because he's an asshole
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I'm excuse me using that term. I apologize because because it's not strong enough for him. He is a demonic demon
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Who wants to run the world
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And of course he can't do that because of business
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He can't do it because a free market he can't dominate so he has to blow it all up to say he rules it
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I've got to read this. Hold on one second
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Okay
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Pratch
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Remember that
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Thing I said earlier about that particular article like I like I said post it under our byline entire thing, please. Thank you
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So he got a text in the middle of this show
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From somebody
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We all know who that is. Yeah, goose it for 2.0 Roger Stone. Okay, you got a text from Roger
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And I'm certain it's from Roger cuz he goes on to say this now
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Let's go ahead and get to this article that Roger Stone wrote
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For the Hill newspaper. He also sent it to us to post it in fullwars.com. Wait Rogers. Can the 2016 election be rigged?
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You bet
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So Roger Stone
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Roger Stone
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Wait
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Wait, wait, wait
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Wait, you might need a while to decompress on that. Hold on. Wait, hold on. Yep
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If you are if you are telling me this correctly
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This is the day after yep, this is the day after august 16th 2016 the day after
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He had absolutely been in contact with
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2.0. He writes an article
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He literally said the election can be rigged. Yep. Oh god, he's fucked
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He's so fucked. He's establishing a narrative using infowars as the conduit for it to put it out
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I guess they had a byline on the hill to I'm not entirely sure I was only able to find the article on infowars
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Okay, I could find the article and it's just about how Hillary is going to rig the election
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But the evidence that he cites primarily comes from that Stanford article
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That is not a study right Stanford paper on a peer-reviewed paper
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He uses that as an extrapolation point and then talks about how a bunch of voting machines can be hacked
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Which is a very valid concern
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It's true and they were but he uses that to create a primary narrative that Trump is going to lose by hacking
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Or something like that, right which is sort of the backdoor way of like I know you are but what am I right exactly?
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Creating that foundation because it's important to do that when you're doing that. Yeah
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That's really smart though. Very like it's it's fun. It's like
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It's fun. It's like every time they said when they go low we go high you look back at that and you're like
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Oh going low is so much more successful
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but also the cheating wins the other problem too is that like
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The reality of the conversation the Democrats probably should have been having had all the information been out on the table and known
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Is that they go low they're going lower than you think? Yeah, like that's the issue
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Yes, like Trump insulting like that Gold Star family. Yeah, that's pretty fucking low. That's low
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That's pretty fucking low
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But behind that we need that was actually disguising how much lower they were going at the same time exactly
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Yeah, it's the matador flipping a red cape. Yeah to get you to charge that direction instead of hitting you
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Yeah, and I mean look there's no way to slice this
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This is very clear to me. What's going on? Like this is Roger Stone creating this this
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Essentially straw man. He's doing this because he's in contact with Russian intelligence agents
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I don't believe for a goddamn second that the emails and the private messages that have been released are the
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Only messages of course, that's not even a possibility in my mind
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There's no chance of that and the fact that he's not named in that indictment is damning to him
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Oh, no, he's because if he was named in that it would be different
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They're saving some of that because they have more in yeah
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No, of course if they had named him in the indictment
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Then you would know he was not part of the thing the fact that they kept it out of the indictment
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suggests that they are going to
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Indict him or if they say or yeah, there's tons more information that's yet to be connected
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Which I would argue is probably further communiques further
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Information that the probe the Muller probe has that we don't have. Yeah
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To me when I see that I'm like Rogers fucked and I want to look at and I still think he's got a deal quite
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Frankly, but when I saw that and I was like, let's look back at this next day
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in
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2016 and I saw that Alex's main
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archive
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YouTube channel doesn't have this episode up and then I listened to it and
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Alex gets a text while he's on air to publish this article about how Hillary is going to
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Steal the elect is election fraud possible you bet like that sort of thing
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That to me that to me is fucking clearly indicative of something
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TV again god damn it the balls on this guy to have a
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Conversation about rigging the election and then the next day write an article about how they're rigging the election
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Like his article should have been should have just been like can you rig an election? You're goddamn, right?
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That's what I've been doing my whole years man. Now. It gets so much worse
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Put your mic down. Okay, and there's gonna be more hacks a little bird told me there were other hacks
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that have certain parties directing the fraud and
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Preparing at the general election. Mmm and organizing the illegals to vote and the dead people to vote. Oh
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I'm afraid all the emails will be released before you have the election
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And
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No amount of false flags Soros are going to put that genie back in the little bottle
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You can run on for a long time
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creepy man
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So Alex you just admitted that you have advance notice of things that are to come and the content of those things
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You know what? You know what that proves though?
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Alex thinks Hillary's gonna win. Yep
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like that is the only way that you become the weakest of links because
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this episode is like like you could just throw this in court and everybody's like oh
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Yeah, yeah, he got the text. That's it. Yeah, he this whole thing happened
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Yeah, this is and then he said on air
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Yeah, the shit that was going down and the only way the only way it would not be
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Investigated is if Hillary won. Oh, yeah. I mean this should be played in court
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Like yeah, absolutely this this this episode is so clear
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Like the brazenness and the hahaha aspect of him being like, oh a little birdie. It's fucking Rogers. Yeah
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Everybody knows that there's gonna be more leaks and it's months before the Podesta emails come out
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Yeah, like before Rogers like your time in the barrel is coming
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Yeah, like all of this stuff is still to come Roger
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Absolutely has advanced knowledge of the things that are about to be released and Alex is reporting this stuff from DC leaks
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Which is another outlet from the GRU. Yeah, as we now know like this is very clear. Like I don't I
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Don't know any other way to slice that. I think Alex actually doesn't know like I think he's stupid
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Yeah, I think I think that he doesn't really he's a useful idiot. This is why we talk about Alex
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It's because he is the weakest link if he has no no no information is a throwaway
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Here's my first piece of evidence about that
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No one
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No one who knew the details of this stuff would come on air and laugh about how I've been told
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There's more stuff coming and I know what's in it
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Yeah, and then earlier on the show be like, I don't care if it's the Russians or something like that
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Yeah, like what do you say it earlier? Yeah, there's no way you would do that sort of thing
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Unless you were like I think at this point quite frankly
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Alex might be look
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This sort of behavior indicates that he's on the outest
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Most outermost level of the circle. Yeah that Roger is using him as a way to disseminate information
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Yeah, and is going to be sold out. Yeah, there's no way that Roger
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Only texted Alex. No, there are
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Obviously one of the other people in that indictment was Lee Stranahan. Yeah. I mean he's
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Boy he's he's mixed up in this pretty hard, too
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and you have to and got sued along with Alex and is deeply involved and you have to imagine that a lot of
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Conservative media was given this information as well and they would not talk about it because they were like
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This is a bad idea for us to talk about some of them had the restraint to be like, oh shit. Yeah. Yeah
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Yeah, and only and that's this is this is where that's fascinating because that's why it wound up in the hill
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It's because the hill was like well clearly this isn't true
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it's coming from Roger Stone and the people that Roger texted at
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A Breitbart or Fox News or whatever are like, oh shit
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Roger you're committing all the crimes. We can't talk about this
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Otherwise, you've got a paper trail and Alex is like fuck
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And I'll reveal that I know more and yeah
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I think it's yeah
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when I heard that last clip where he's just like laughing about knowing what's coming and
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Yes
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Like it's the same thing with that time. We talked about talking to Russian intelligence when he thought it was our team
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Yeah, like yeah
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things that a lot of people would hear that and be like well
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He's just lying about this and I I get that I understand. He's a liar. Yeah, I understand that. Yeah
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Which is what makes him so useful in disseminating that but the plausible deniability of that is
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What's useful? Yes, but I can tell at this point like I can tell sincerity from lying in him
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I believe yeah from listening to my Malcolm Gladwell level of
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Alex Jones and insane about I have a pretty keen sense of like when he's trying to cover something up and when he's
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Being sincere and to me I hear this and I got I got like my heart was fluttering. Yeah, I was like
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Why did you say that and why is this episode not on your channel anymore?
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Well, because you said that that's a really big deal now the idea of when did Roger know X Y or Z
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That's a huge deal in terms of the indictments and in terms of his testimony that he gave to the house
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Judicial committee like that's a really fucking serious issue
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Goddammit, do are we gonna become material witnesses?
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I don't care. Do we email?
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No, because I alert do we have it do we have a Mueller email address? I have a faith
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I have Robert Mueller at FBI gov
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I have a I have a certain amount of faith that if we know this then they do too
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I kind of don't I don't think there's any way that a serious investigator would be like
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Well, obviously we have to listen to 1 million hours of info
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We got a million but go to the dates that are important
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But I would also argue that if we jumped to this date at a different point in time
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We absolutely wouldn't have would have missed it entirely. Yeah, we would have just been like Alex. You're just being fucking weird with that laugh
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Yeah, or whatever. Yeah, and I'll tell you what, I would say that even more things
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He says later in this episode make it look even worse for him. Really. Yeah, check out this next clip
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Toro seems to be arrested right now
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He goes to Russia. He will be okay. Cool. I
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I don't know if that's an endorsement or an indictment. I mean, it's it's it's
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Indicative of where Alex's head is that generally speaking if you go to Russia and are arrested
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I'm probably on your side. You might be a journalist. You might be someone who opposes Putin
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Well, hold on in the opposition party if you get arrested, you're not a journalist if you get killed you're a journalist
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Well, not all if you get arrested. You're just a political prison. Hashtag, not all journalists get killed
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Just most minus one. Um, look dude. Yeah, I mean like who cares that that that's just like
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I mean when even when we were looking at 2015, he kept being like Putin is the answer. Yeah. Yeah
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Yeah, so hearing like pro-russia shit is not like in any way
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But that's not that's not pro-russia shit so much as that is no
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No, I mean so much as it is pro-autocrat shit
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No, it's pro-russia in as much as he's saying that George Soros should be arrested by our government
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Yeah, Russia's government would do it ergo. They're better
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Right. No, I get that be like Russia. Yeah, it is pro-autocrat, but it's also specifically pro-russia, but it could also be
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Shit was is that hungry? Yeah Ukraine. Yeah. Yeah, it could be the
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That one if I got no not. Yeah. Yeah, exactly. Yeah, Erdogan wants him out. Yeah, Turkey for sure
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Yeah, there's a bunch of there's a bunch of horrible states
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Yeah, I'm sure he was a fan of these have been kicked out of yeah, they are personal nongrata
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Generally speaking. They're the places where you have
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Nationalist uprisings pretty quote crazy. Yeah, it's crazy that he would be
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technically speaking or or perhaps by word of mouth against the
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cultural revolution that Mao put forth and yet at the same time for
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What could be described as the exact same fucking thing that Erdogan did that?
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Not important sir. Good call. Sure. I don't know it is important, but there's more important things
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Yeah, and that is Jordan this clip blew my fucking mind
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And I know that we just played a clip where like it could literally be evidence in a federal trial
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Yeah, if someone gets their hands on that because I think the timeline is very very very sketchy
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But I think that this I think that this next clip is even more
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Mind-blowing in some ways Langley has been a donor to our podcast for a long time
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You're talking about my old college friend Travis Langley
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Went out went out did some firefighting after college
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He's a good man as far as I know I haven't spoken to him like in eight or nine years
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But anyway, try this shout out. How's it going?
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This next clip dude is so fucked up in next episode. We do is like
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Apologies for shouting him out. He was convicted of sexual assault two years ago. I'm sure not
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Yeah, he was one of those fun guys that I don't know how much I want to get into
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He was one of those guys that could drink as much as me in college
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Oh, then we because of that ended up sort of together a lot because everybody else is
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Yeah, yeah, there's a good time
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Gonna be convicted two years ago of
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I'm sorry. Anyway, this next clip. Like I said is
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profoundly fucked up I
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Don't believe half of it
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But like the part that you do believe is troubling. No, I want it all to be true
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Just because of the fun world that it creates in that. Okay. I mean reportedly Hillary talks like a sailor
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Just walks around with her sleeves rolled up
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Punching Bill Clinton in the face before she was so ill
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I mean she's a piece of work and just well, you know stealing not just the cutlery and plates but furniture. I mean, they're just
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They are total criminals they are trash they are filth
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Oh
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Obama doesn't steal stuff out of the White House and he's polite to people
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The Clintons, you know, I really think the Clintons are worse than Obama. In fact, I'm sure of it. I
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mean
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That's an evil energy about him and he's got he he he wants to bring the u.s
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Down a few pegs and he is an Islamic system. What of course
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That's just any you said that like it goes long. He's a horrible person. He's horrible
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But it really shows you something Hillary behind the scenes
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Is it ever nice
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It's one thing, you know high pressures media. I get mad people have arguments that goes on
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But I'm sorry for it later folks that are rude to me or sorry. I mean, she doesn't give people tips
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You can't look her in the eyes
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She loves to get people fired. She loves to fire people. She loves to rub stuff in she loves to gloat over pettiness
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Hillary Clinton does not give tips. I
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Mean I get a good feeling out of being middle-class and having some extra money and when
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Service giving them a 20 25% sir bad service
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I'm not so they complain but if somebody's bad enough, I don't give a tip
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I call them over and say you're rude and you need to get ahead in life and not act
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So, you know have such an attitude problem
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Well, and then I'll say I mean my family hates when I do this
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But I'm all about getting past comfort zones and I'll say realize that and I'll say something wrong
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Yeah, I'm really having a bad day. Okay. We still have a 50% tip to him
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But probably better attitude you really get you know gave us attitude and everything and make sure you don't want to come in this restaurant
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Anymore see I mean, I'm all about really getting past comfort times with people
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That's amazing
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That's amazing. I read that post-mortem book on Hillary's campaign. I can't remember this
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Yeah, and even even that book which is
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Insanely critical of her campaign in the way that it was run even that book never says
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She didn't even tip 15% like you would have known you went to dinner with people
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But like all that I don't give a shit like oh, that's just sort of Alex rambling and trying to fill time
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But I love the image of Alex Jones trying to give therapy to a waiter. Hey, what's going on with you, buddy?
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You know what? Do you know it's I?
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Can't for a fucking
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Genuinely believe and this this hurt me because I genuinely believe waitstaff should be a protected class
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Like if you're an asshole to your waitstaff that is borderline a hate crime. Well, it's definitely abuse like it like
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What are you fucking doing? Oh
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I'm only gonna give you 15% but I'm gonna give a talking to I would I
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guaranteed because he's
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95% of any wait staff I've ever met would be like I would prefer you give me zero dollars
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but no speech he's in 15% and
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Talking to well, but this is like this is the perfect example of the like
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When we talk about being able to suss out lie from truth in Alex like the oh, yeah is I know about something
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That's I've been told I have advanced knowledge of this stuff. Yeah, the lie is
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I'm going to really really play up how empathic I am
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I'm yeah
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I care about people like that is alive because he fleshed it out into an
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Elaborate scenario where everyone hates when I do this, but I always just tell people what are you having a bad day?
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I'm still gonna tip you anyway, but you need to really know that that makes me not want to come in here
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If Alex if Alex gives details, he's like yeah, exactly his his truths are
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Well, I did this and then a you know
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No big deal his lies are like and then I was born from the son of
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Kal-el and I went to this restaurant and there were eight old ladies, but two of them were like
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What are you fucking talking? It's not a perfect one-to-one example, but it's on the same episode
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So it bears like pointing like that's a lie. What he said earlier is him representing truth
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Yeah
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Now we get back to the hack stuff and Alex says some really fucking unfortunate things that I believe make this
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episode this August 16th episode like
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The next level weird listen to this. Oh, we got some big story for you notice mainstream media attacks me all the time on stuff
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Silence about our leak come out and say I'm a liar. Hey one the Secret Service drop by he called it our
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leak
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Yeah
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That's a Freudian slip. No, that's a normal thing. No, it's our leak. No, it's not. No, it's our leak
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It's like it's like a no, it's like a general leak. It's it's the American people's leak
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No, really? No. Oh, yeah. Yeah. No, it's the missing leak. No Bigfoot. No, no
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that's
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That means that he thinks he's a part of a team
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Let me ask you a question
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That means that he thinks that this is something that we are doing now and that's something that someone named Roger Stone has lied
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To him and told him
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That's what we're doing with the help of of course deep agenda if I remember correctly on August 16 probably Larry Nichols
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But he's way more on the side
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Well, it'd be on August 16th. I wasn't ready still around
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So on August 16th, the information though had not actually been
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Leaked, correct? Most of it had most of it had yeah a couple days earlier, but but okay
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So a couple of days earlier. Yes. Well, the the Soros emails had been leaked
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The Podesta emails had not yeah, I was though that was the big dump that came in October. So there is there is a
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There's a beginning of it, but not an end
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We're in the middle of it at this point and the only reason that this date is relevant to choose is
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That it's literally the next time Alex was on air after we know that Roger Stone was in touch with goose. Yeah 2.0
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Yeah, so that's the only reason that we choose this date. I
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Bet I bet if we go to the 17th, he says some more incriminating shit
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But maybe not as incriminating our leak our leak really real
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That's a super incriminating statement. Well, it means to me
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Here's that here's what it means to me and I take this from also this next clip
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Listen to this next clip and then I'll explain what I mean by what I think about him saying our leak
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Joe Beggs is gonna be popping in later in the interview with more info. He goes you mean the worst conduit. I'll just leave it at that
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Pizzagate Joe Beggs has not been fired yet. He's still around. Yeah, and he has information that's come from his conduit
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We'll leave it at that
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And then I'm gonna talk to him about how he thinks this whole plan is going
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How's it going for Soros when we know that intelligence agencies private corporations and other groups are now?
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Eric Prince packing the Democratic Party the entire Democratic Party the entire Soros operation the Clintons
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It's all gonna get data dumped and
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To confirm earlier stuff was the Russians the carbon tax is being exposed the height of the decline
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Climategate stuff that is the Russians and the Russians are actively penetrating stuff
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But this is not the Russians that this is US intelligence agencies linking right now
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Risking their lives because they know something. We don't know about Hillary. That's so bad
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It's finally turned the basically the whole government against them. So here's what's going on
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Alex has high-end dudes like Eric Prince in Blackwater
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You have people like Steve pochenik and Roger Stone that are lying to him and confirming details
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amongst themselves
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That are they're trying to tell him that like yeah. Yeah, the Russians hacked a bunch of stuff before and they're still trying stuff
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But this isn't them this one this one is
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Specific one that we desperately need you to think isn't them is actually the Patriots us
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Patriots within risk their lives because Hillary has gone too far and this is why even though which we now know
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They have spent
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Hours upon hours upon hours upon hours upon years
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Actually
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Disproving that Hillary has committed any crime in the specific way that Alex is describing. Yeah
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Yeah, she's committed crimes, but not these ones. Yeah, it's it's just fucking it's it's insane to me
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Like how like again?
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I hate to keep saying a right thinking person because that becomes so much like what do you think that is?
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Well, I think someone who's not infected with brain worm. Let's go with reasonable thinking person. Sure
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Yeah
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I've been trying to train myself to not say reasonable so much because it used to be like a trigger for me
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It used to be the centrist thing. Yeah, I gotcha
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but like no it just used to be almost my Tourette's saying something is reasonable, but like this to me is like
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Actionable if no if you look at this
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The only assessment you can really come away from it and I would welcome anybody to go listen to this whole three-hour episode
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You're not gonna get more
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Context to any of this other than you can listen to Alex interview Doug Hagman for a bit
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I would not recommend to anybody listen to this entire
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Relevant it's just gonna be repetition of a bunch of the same shit
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We talked about a bunch but like if you listen to this what you can't I don't think you can come away from is Alex
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Is gloating like crazy about what he knows is coming
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He has this information all this stuff and then he says things like this
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Which indicate to me that he has had people like like we say Roger Stone Steven chenick, right?
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Maybe Eric Prince if the two of them are in contact Alex has since come out and said that Eric Prince was a big
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Source of information for God damn it
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But you have these people who are telling fucking guy you had these people who were telling him like no this wasn't the Russians
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Yeah, and then at the same time you have this indictment that's come out just in the present
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That is a lot of very specific information about the specific computers the specific emails that these GRU agents were using which is that?
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Matches up perfectly with what he describes the yeah that provided the information that Alex is saying this time
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It wasn't the Russians. Yeah, which is what?
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Roger Steve Pachannik and those dudes are telling him behind the scenes. Yeah, so what you have here. I think is Alex
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acting as a patsy yeah, I and I think that since all of this and since the heat has gotten really hot the reason that
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Alex is so boring is like
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There's two things. I think that he realized at some point that like this is the game that's being played
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I can't play it anymore. Yeah, and so he still supports Trump because of the white nationalist
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Movements that are still being emboldened and he's he's pushing through the legislation that he would like to be there and yeah things like that
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Yeah, but he also recognizes
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That he did things like this on air. Yeah in 2016. Yeah that are
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Evidence and that's why his show is boring in 2018. He knows people are listening
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Like he didn't know that people were listening back then. Yeah, I don't mean it like he didn't think anyone was listening
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He just thought like hey, this doesn't matter. It's all good. I mean and and you know what? It's not all good
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It's not all good that puts a nail in the coffin of ever
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convincing
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or not just ever convincing ever like
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Making Alex confront the fact that he has been lied to and taken advantage of well
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It takes away so much of his masculinity right power because because if he took that episode down
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Which we can't confirm
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if he if he was
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Specifically not cool with this episode being out that suggests for knowledge
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That is intent like if you're or if you're going to create if you're gonna create like a couple days later
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He realized like oh shit. What did I say?
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That's rid of it
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But that's what I'm saying that suggests that he found out that he was fucking
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Fucked on this one by them or or later in the day Roger called him and like I was like you've got to take that down
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That's also possible. You just drifted out because what's because it's dangerous and you're gonna hurt my sources or whatever
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It could have even been six months later. I mean right now it's like I have no idea
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I have no idea whether this never went up or it was taken down
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I only know that it's an anomaly in terms of the episodes that I try to find from these years
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Years that this guy has posted everything which is smoke but not fire
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But right damn it if it looks like it's smoke from a fire. My my point just being like if we
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To me there's always been a romantic idea of like if we could just get to him and just like
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Your bet da da da da da da da look at this whether or not we agree on
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Policies or anything like that all we can genuinely prove to you
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Is that the people you've surrounded with are trying to fuck you over, but I think he knows he knows that now, right?
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That means that gets rid of any possibility ever of redemption. Oh, there never was one, you know, there never was no
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But I'm saying like there's there's so there's there aren't many times where you can point to a concrete example of him being
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Actually aware that he was fucked by the people that he supposedly trusts. Hmm
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You know what I'm saying?
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Like so many times we've pointed out that he was fucked by the people he trusts
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But this is a confirmation like the fact that this episode isn't up
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He'll when he came on and talked about Mars bases and then Alex was like this guy is probably deep state
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He was trying to get on my show and say some dumb shit when he's been on the show multiple times before that
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No, right. It's not like it's an anomaly for him to be on or say something weird
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It's just right the media picked up on the Mars base thing that he said because we're also a project Camelot guest and so like
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Delightful, but you know like you have that
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Where he that's someone who he trusted and realized I can't trust him and then had to disavow them
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Yeah, but Robert
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Mars base like you can you he doesn't really trust anybody about a Mars base
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He wasn't as deeply in he trusted him about other things though, right? But okay fair wasn't as deeply entrenched as someone like Roger Stone is
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Now exactly. He's such a like he's become
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Woven into the DNA of info wars. Yeah last two years or so like to the point where if he goes down Alex goes down
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It's inextricable, but it's not actually that that's that's not true
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There's a way that Alex can dodge like if Roger Stone goes to prison. I think Alex can dodge it
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I think I think it's I think it's possible. But again, I've talked about this. I agree
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Yeah, I talked about this for a fucking here. Like even if these guys go to prison
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Like right here. This episode is the closest I have ever come to being like
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Alex is going to prison. Yeah, like because this is this is damning
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Well, this is an indication that he had advanced knowledge that he didn't admit to yeah now
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He hasn't perjured himself like he hasn't gone in for interviews now
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No, so he's still like on the right side of the law if he comes clean
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Which he can do but it involves selling out Roger. Okay new plan
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No longer. Are we going to romanticize the idea of ever convincing him that he's fucked over
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Here's what we do. We email his lawyer
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All right, right and his lawyer is like by the way. Yeah, right we we email them
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All right, and we send that email we have these clips they hear it
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All we do is
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Get an email back. That is just them salivating at the billable hours
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Yeah, like that's all that's going on right here
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If this if this information is part of Mueller's probe
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This is so many billable hours like the lawyers if they heard this pre they would go ape shit
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They'd be like, ah, we're gonna be rich
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I I really think that this sort of thing these these
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Indications are the sort of thing that like you could get Alex to flip
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Because easily he has a business to protect his hands of kids
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He like he doesn't want to go to prison
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Like I know I know that he believes in what he believes in and all that but he's worried
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He'll be attacked by black people in prison. Certainly. Yeah, and then have his kids taught prison mentality
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That would be terrible him when they visit him in prison
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It's been it's a program that's been in place for at least a year Alex goes to prison then pretends that he couldn't have done
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These radio shows because he was off-earth at the time. Yeah, it becomes the new Mark Richards for us
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Oh
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Cycle continues like the last of the wire. Yeah, every 30 years that new Alex Jones gets interviewed by knowledge fight
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Yeah, I mean look it's just I don't know
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I don't know how to put any buttons on this and we have more clips, but like it's just
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It's nonsense to me. Like I hear this and I'm like the only way out is
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Bad, yeah him. Yeah, but I don't I still don't think like
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I think at the end of the day, he's a white supremacist fuck and I hate him
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Yeah
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hate him so much his rhetoric is
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Cancerous and it's the worst and all these people who are talking about like should he be allowed on Facebook?
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Like I don't think that I don't think that's a valid conversation to have. Yeah, I don't give a shit
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I think I think that their Facebook should choose and if they don't choose don't like you get off Facebook, you know
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I don't I don't know. I'm it's not clear to me. I hate him
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I hate him, but I don't think that like even all this like even at this damning. This is damning stuff
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Still I still think he's stupid
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Like yeah, I think that he's smart about a lot of the cultural issues. He's cancerous about but I would say he's not smart
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He's canny
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No, I think he's got a he's got a an instinct
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No, I think he knows what he's doing on a social front and the the racial stuff like when he was yelling about Tim Kane
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Yeah, I think yeah, he's doing and he's in charge of stuff of being racist
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But I think with this secret information and all this counter-coup narrative and all this I think he's though
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He's the mark. Yeah, and I think you can see it played out on air
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Yeah, and I I don't I think it would be disingenuous to be like he's committed treason
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Cuz what we're talking about is treason
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like the the acts that we're talking about are
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Sedition against America, but I mean you say that but it's like stealing an election. Is that so bad?
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I mean if it was Dukes of Hazzard in it, you know, like like how they gonna get away with stealing an election
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Oh boy, right. They stole your you're in a Patton Oswalt bit about Bush and Cheney
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They got a little bit of data and they ran with it. Yeah, you know like
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You know, that's shady, but that's not this but this is is no this is crime
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This is crime
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this is crime and you can't hide behind the idea that it was like these wonderful people in the intelligence agencies because
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It's very clearly forensically been studied and that is not the case
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so I
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Still don't think he's committed treason
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When I have heard him in the past talk about like people are investigating him. I always take that with the grain of salt
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I always have heard things from like McClatchy have read those articles
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Yeah, it's like they're investigating social media's presence. Yeah, right-wing medias
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Yeah, is this intentional was their coordination and stuff like that?
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That was always been the point of that investigation and if that was going on a year and a half ago
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and
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Alex is on air talking about advanced knowledge of leaks and hacked documents and stuff like that
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Then he has to know that like
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I'm in the fucking hopper. Yeah, so here's my prediction
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Either
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Alex needs to flip and change his narrative, which I don't think is ever gonna happen or
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Shit's gonna get real dark
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He might he might get indicted too. I
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Never thought this until I listen to this episode disagree. I think that he might get indicted
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I really don't think anybody is listening to this. I
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We said we talked about this off-air. I don't think I don't think serious people take this seriously
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I think that if you have I mean part of the reason that we take it seriously is because we are
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Come not serious. We are decidedly unserious people. I think that if you are
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Investigation and you're focusing on Roger Stone and you realize oh
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Roger Stone has buddied up with this right-wing media network
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Yeah, you'd probably that one of the easiest forensic things to do is like find out what he said on that show on various days
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Yeah, so I do think that this stuff is very well known to investigators, right?
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I think it has to be if it's not then boy you guys
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Here's here's why I feel like and this is not to say that it is more valid
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Here's why I feel like my assessment of this particular situation
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Regarding what the FBI regards as serious is more valid. I
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listen to way less Alex Jones than you fair enough and generally speaking of the
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99.99 percent of the population we all feel like
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Alex Jones can be disregarded right and it is never a bad idea to suggest that people
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Investigating things can disregard details that would help them. Oh sure. I mean, that's that's generally the reality
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Let me just goes back to that like when you're looking at one thing your peripheral vision is blurred
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Yeah, you know like if you if you focus on one thing, you don't see the very obvious thing on the side
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Yeah, of course, man, and that's this and the obvious thing though is at the same time
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Info Wars, you know and it's damning
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Yeah
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So in this next clip Alex talks about these these Soros hacks and these DC leaks
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And the DNC leaks and he says that they say things that they don't say but it sounds exactly like all of his narrative
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They're a bunch of hacks. Well, so they're like
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Have you ever heard about info wars playing food? Yeah white activists and black activists are different
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DMC emails are out. There's tens of thousands of them within days of them being out. We've already gotten into the emails
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They're up on info wars calm Roger port comms from a daily caller and others have dug them up saying
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we're gonna bring in the migrants and then get a bunch of government money to take care of and then use those political weapons and
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Make up the new normal and merge the Middle East with Europe and take over the u.s
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And use the new immigrant roots as our political voting bloc control everything and call everybody races that don't go along with it
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I mean, this is a criminal conspiracy and we have the diary
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It's open and shut
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It's open and shut going back to mr. Hagman in a moment. We are running a special on one of our top nutraceuticals
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How can you commit a crime and sell shit in the same sentence?
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That is solid work
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We got a special
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I just shot a man in the face and also we got an Easter special going on
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I watched some of these Netflix documentaries about various crimes and I will admire them for not trying to sell something during them
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Committed a crime and tried to sell something in the same fucking sentence
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That's kind of heroic. It's amazing on a certain level
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That is her own might be the best ad pivot. Oh, yeah, so everyone drink that that might be the that might be the tops
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so
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I'll say
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There's been a lot of uncertainty about a lot of things for for a long time there's been some
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Impressions of certainty after the clips you played there. There is some less uncertainty and then also with this
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That an indictment isn't a hundred percent proof of fact
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but no it is it is a
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Claim based on evidence that has been collected right and and based on everything that our
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information and our
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Criminal justice system right or investigative bodies have put out it is very clear that
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DC leaks and Guccifer 2.0 were
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entities for Russian hackers to use to disseminate information that they stole
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Yeah from the DNC and from Soros and from John Podesta later them right now
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why this can absolutely be confirmed as true is
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Because for all of Mueller's indictments, these are the ones to say Mueller. I've been criticized really
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Okay, really Mueller. Sorry. I've gotten some blowback. You know what?
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I never know like there's no sounds better like there was a Cubs player named Bill Mueller for a while
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But I didn't know if I don't want to be a dick, but someone has yelled at me. No agreed
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I'm fine with that bowler. Um
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Here's why this one I feel like can absolutely be confirmed as true regardless
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Is that this is the first indictment? I feel like that molars brought that will mean nothing
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Because none of the 12 people that he is indicted will ever be extradited to the United States
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What are you talking about companies the couple six eight months ago or so?
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He indicted some companies some
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member that
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Which ones some some Russian companies that were in? Oh, yeah. No, you're right, but it's the same fair enough like this
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It's it's just like
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guys, we're presenting
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incontrovertible evidence simply because
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Nothing can be done about it. No, those are like not going to be extra day. Yeah
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Yeah, of course not what kind of world would Trump who fucking loves Putin?
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Ever be like as we're recording. This probably is talking. Yeah
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Well talking is a hard word to use. I would say giving him a handy
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Like what world would he be like, okay. Well
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we got a
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We got to do this a molar come up with some good shit. Isn't that right? Hey, hey Putin
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Give me 12 guys from your military
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So I can prosecute them in the United States suck. Come on. Yeah, no that never would happen
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So but I agree with the with the bottom line of what you're saying and that is that I think this is absolutely accurate
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Yeah, these were the people who?
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Were involved in the DC hex. Yeah, DC leaks
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Undoubtedly it cannot be disputed makes it that much more embarrassing that Alex says this
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Oh, no, everybody has to move it once then they can't get us all. Yes. We need to come out
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We need to come out of this information mass wave information warfare attacks
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Roger that. Well, I want to salute the folks that hacked the Democrats. They're criminals
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I want to salute the folks that hacked Soros. I mean and listen, this is only the beginning
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There's only the beginning in it
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Salute I mean, yeah salute to you hackers. Yeah boy
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He wouldn't say this stuff if he knew
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Like this is a guy who's being tricked, you know, yeah like yeah it I don't
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Well, there is a version that he would like there is a person who would say that if he knew
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Yeah, and I don't think that fits Alex Jones's profile now
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I think he is completely hook line and sinker on this stupid narrative at August
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16th 2016 who knows what he knows later, but at this point
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He's being fucking lied to undoubt and he is thrilled about it. And that's why he's
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so
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Outward with things that are damning and evidence. Yeah
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Okay, so here's how we get Alex. All right, both of us move to Texas. We spend to it we
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First off. I loved it down in Austin. Yeah. No, it was great down in nice to be closer to my parents
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I love the city. There's so much there. There's that great hot sauce shop. Yeah. Yeah
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Yeah, there is not a good hot sauce shop in Chicago incredible. Yeah, so what we do
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Spend
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Two to four years in law school pass our LSATs pass the bar go to go to town, right?
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All right, we spend four years as public defenders. Then we parlay that into a private practice
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Okay, eventually we run on the campaign
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Yeah, absolutely. We've got that. We've got the whole thing, right?
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They have to pretend relatives of yours as partners then get more names on the sign then
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15 years from now we run for Attorney General. Okay, okay
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finally, we have the authority to take the information that we have gathered over this past two years and
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Defeat Alex Jones by that point statute of limitations has come up. Yeah, but but we don't need to worry about that
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I don't know if there's a statute of limitations on trees. Ah
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Well, he committed treason about ten years ago
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But there's nothing we can do accessory to treason like cuz I don't think I know I know how bad a propagandist
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he is, but like I
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still think that like there are people who are
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from my
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My view yeah, and admittedly, I don't know everything. I only have the the information that I have I
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Think that there are people who are actively involved in this and people who are passively involved
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Alex is passively involved in the treason aspect of it. Yeah, he's actively involved in the propaganda part of it
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Yeah, I think that propaganda is not a crime but should be I don't think you were necessarily have a crime to hang him on
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For that yeah, I think that in terms of his involvement in all this
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I think that the
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He's probably a guy who you know, which is which is both why he is
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Used for this specific purpose like people tell him way too much or or at least at least for a way
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Too much strategically way too much. Yeah
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Yeah, they tell him way too much for two guys who spend all of our time talking about Alex Jones. Yeah
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Yeah
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but in reality they tell him way more than is necessary in order to get out in front of the narrative and
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Make it seem crazy
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But I also think that it's possible that like the Steve's and the the Rogers who were manipulating
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Him because it's very clear that that's a huge part of it. Oh, yeah, absolutely
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I also think that he's an idiot it from everything I can tell and I might be like I say I might be wrong about
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Everything but like everything I can tell you have Steve and Roger coordinating Lee manipulating him on this side
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Yeah, Larry Nichols manipulating him, but I don't think it's all involved. Like I don't think the three of them are involved
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No, I think Larry Nichols is another side thing, but he's yeah exactly Larry Nichols is not part of the cabal
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He's being pulled in a similar direction by Larry too. He's being manipulated in a similar anti Hillary way
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Yeah, but Larry is more fun about it. Absolutely. Yeah, I would never yeah
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And I don't think Larry Nichols is committing treason. I think he's just a crazy old dude. He's just lunatic
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It's just a crazy old liar. Yeah, yeah, but I
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Lost my train of thought entirely but I I think that when you have when you have a situation like this it's
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The burden of proof of someone actually
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Doing like something that we're talking about. Yeah, we're talking about treason. We are talking about treason
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He should be hung by the neck until dead. I believe the burden of evidence is pretty high and
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When I look at Alex and I look at stuff like this like what's crazy to me
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Legitimately is that looking at this episode the day after Roger Stone?
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100% was in touch with Russian intelligence
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You have Alex saying fucking damning stuff that he knows things and he's been told stuff. I
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Still think he's on the outside. I still think that there's an innocence
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there which is hard for me to wrestle with as someone who
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Studies him and hates him and thinks he should be held accountable for so many things
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Yeah
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I don't know how to deal with this like this this to me was such a such a hard thing to wrestle with that
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I have I've found something Alex you are bragging on air of
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Advanced notice of leaks that are gonna come out which is a huge part of what you deny is part of your information
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Base in the present. Yeah, I
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I still think the only thing reason he's lying about it now is because he's realized he was lied to back then at the very
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Least he is finally aware that he is an accessory. Yes. Yeah. Yeah
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He's an accessory to treason which kind of still is treason
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or or maybe even kinda and it is and the cover-up is crazy and
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The cover-up is what we see going on right now with all the modern-day Alex right which is why it's so boring
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I think so too. Yeah, so boring because it's just and that's why I wish you would just go back to being weird
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I kind of think if he bailed on Trump
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The Fox News people would follow
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Yeah, I think you'd be the bellwether. Yeah, I think I think that if he I think if he got it
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Yeah, if he got mass approval
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From being like holy shit Trump lied to us the whole time
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Like if Trump is a fucking yeah, if he somehow was like proof of concept. Yeah that like oh this can work
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Yeah, maybe then they would jump on board baby. Yeah, it's entirely possible. He certainly led them down this road
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I don't know. I don't know
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What I come away from more and more is that I don't know I don't know but I know you know
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I know people have committed treason
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that's not a
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That's not a arguable fact at this point the added information that I get from listening to this episode and talking about it
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It's not like it doesn't invalidate anything that I thought before
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Yeah, it adds to it a little bit in terms of like figuring out the picture of stuff
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But it doesn't invalidate anything. It doesn't you know, like our our previous
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Concept of what happened is very intact just with more like yeah
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It's more it's it's just evidence that Alex Alex has information that he's not saying. Yeah, and that part is like
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Something's gonna have to happen with that but at the same time the question is if you're Muller
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Um
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Whether or not you are aware that you are going to be attacked by a foreign power and
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Report it or not is a question of like can you actually prosecute for somebody sure, you know like
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Rogerstone, that's every DA's. Yeah, exactly
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Joggling. Yeah, if you're Roger Stone you're aware that
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As we know now Russia committed a an act of a war
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a culture you'd like but at the same time the at the same time one of the one of the realities we have to
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Admit is that the only way that we could possibly know this is
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If we hacked into their systems in the same way that they did to ours sure
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You know like that's it's not possible to know that in any other way
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So if you want to say, you know
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They committed an act of war against us, but you're now we committed an act of war
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About ism here and I don't I don't actually think that it's the same thing
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I'm not I'm not saying I'm not saying it in a like moral like we should do I'm saying it in more
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I don't yeah, I don't think awesome knowing about this is the same
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as what
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Like the defense
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Awareness the knowledge. I don't think it requires the same thing as the spearfishing
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as the spearfishing and hacking right because some of that can just be done by monitoring
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Uh suspicious people agreed so and but it has been rightly pointed out that we absolutely helped install boris
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Yeltsin
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So it's that was not the fucking 90s
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I know but that's not they didn't declare war on us then like it's it's not
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I I don't want to I don't want to be i'm not saying that I want to be i'm not saying i'm on the side of
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Anybody i'm just saying that this is something that should be that we should be aware of before
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People start saying that this is an act of war and we should like oh, no, I think it's burn everything down
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You know what i'm saying? I don't think it's an act of war. I think it's an act of
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I mean, it's what desperate desperation. It's espionage certainly
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Yeah, and that that's the I mean the end result of it is of course don't fucking go to war with russia
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Yeah, it's stupid. Yeah that idea
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I know I understand what you're saying the the quid pro quo stuff of like we fuck with you
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Uh, so this is okay. I don't agree with that because i'm not saying it's okay
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I don't think anybody's okay. We should also stop doing that stuff
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Yeah, but that's a different conversation now, but in terms of like how do we respond to this?
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I think the only thing that you can do is go back to demonize the eu and the jews. Yeah, exactly
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No, that makes sense. What we we already talked about this the idea that muller is putting out these indictments that are
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Impossible to ever enact because they're not going to be extradited here
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Of course, you have to get the evidence out that this is what happened
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So as much truth is possible and ken burns can make a documentary 15 years from now
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Yeah, get all of that out there and then prosecute as many bad actors here as you can
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Yeah, and hope to mitigate the damage and then educate you hope to be able to like give people to understand
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this is the process that happened as the investigative patterns and the like, um
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The ways that information was known can be revealed that sort of thing. Yeah, you start to understand like
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These are the things you should look out for online, right?
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These are the thing, you know, you should be careful about what you trust because it's very easy to manipulate your opinions
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Using algorithms and shit like that because that is a huge part of the story. That's not criminal
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Yeah, then you take the criminal piece of it and you hopefully put
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So many of these actors in prison
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Trump is probably going to get spared but like you get you get people like roger stone to go to prison
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You get Manafort in prison. Hopefully some of these other people I mean Flynn should go to prison
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Some of these other folks maybe they flip and become states evidence states property
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maybe they uh, you know make some deals for themselves and
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We try and wash this national nightmare out of our hair and then move on in 2020
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hope that that is what we can do, but
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I mean, I don't think it's possible
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No, as we as we all know as we all know that's what needs to happen even even if the democrats run the
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Fucking table and win every election
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They're still giant pussies. So they're never going to actually impeach trump. But what no, he doesn't need to be impeached
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Like I understand that we all want him impeached, but he doesn't need to be
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He needs to be stopped
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Yeah, perhaps perhaps more importantly the republican party needs to be stopped
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Which would be better served in our interests if he was if trump was just neutralized
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With an entirely democratic congress. Yeah, like we want to keep him as president. We just want to make sure that
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All of the dumb shit that he says which is probably based on at the very least a diminished
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Intellectual capacity, but it might be much better optics if he stays as president unable to enact any legislation
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Exactly an incompetent, uh who yells all the time in office
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Maybe that's a better thing for the democrats than impeachment even right there are there are there are ways around this
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But I honestly it's like if if andrew jackson was never allowed to implement any of the things that he said, right?
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Like he's allowed to say all that bullshit, but none of it actually happened
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Like that's that's the better circumstance because
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Ultimately, we kind of want trump as the president
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In order to make sure that we continue winning elections
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I don't because he is the dumb fuck. That's not why an idiot. That's not why I don't think I think that that's ugly
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I think that's an ugly self-serving
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Uh opportunistic idea. I think that the only good thing about having him president is that there's maybe a teaching opportunity
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Teaching opportunity yeah, like you know like as long as he stays in office and is uh floundering and so combative and like a child
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Like there is an opportunity for people watching it to learn like
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Oh, this is that kind of behavior. Yeah. Yeah, you can learn like, uh, oh we don't like that because here's what I would say
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Yeah
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A lot of european countries, uh are older than us
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In terms of their existence, uh, that's a I reject that premise
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No, i'm just fucking with you. Of course that
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That's stupid a lot of and a lot of them don't necessarily have the same uh, uh
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boundaries because of various world wars and
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Various kingdoms and stuff like that right a lot of them have identities that go much further back than 1776
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Absolutely, and we're a bit we're a bit childish and we
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Childish and we I think that on some level our country
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Maybe is going through growing pains right now and there's there's one opportunity, uh in front of us, uh, that is
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We lean into the combative childishness of trump that yeah, he's up. Yeah
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He's giving us the opportunity for and that's a nightmare. That's a that's a disaster. Um, and then I hope everyone invades us
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Uh, right or the other we are due for a regime change or the other opportunities. We have one of these kyrka guardian, uh crises
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That come with your development in life. Yeah, and we realize like, oh shit
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shit
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Yeah
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That was a mistake and everything comes into sharp focus that like oh that was petulantly acting out and that was childish
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We we need to take everything a much more seriously
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We were before and it felt bad, but we need to just we need to get back on the straight and narrow path
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And right and maybe we can move forward from that. Maybe that's idealistic, but I think that that's a possibility
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Well, I mean it's it's interesting because it's not like america hasn't survived a white supremacist
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senile president before but it's like we've got
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A lot under our belt. It's not the same as now but that's that's the thing
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We the world hasn't necessarily survived a white nationalist
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white supremacist
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Uh senile president from america that controls movement exactly. Yeah
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The world is like like it's unfortunate but currently
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The interesting thing is watching the world kind of realize
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We can't trust america
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Mmm, not even just america the order
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Yeah, international order. Yeah. Yeah that we created after world war ii right that admittedly a lot of problems with it
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But at the same time yeah, and at the same time this has occurred before like the world war one
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well, I mean, no, no, I mean, I mean after world war ii like in the uh,
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In the 70s and in the 90s the eu has had a lot of situations where they're on the cusp
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Of breaking apart like this is a regular thing like europe is fucking nuts
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Yeah, but they're not the same as when daddy is drunk, you know, yeah. Okay. Now that's a great way of putting it
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it's not it's not the same as when like and that that's even maybe pejorative to our international partners and allies, but like
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No, I kind of think we're good
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We've we've created a situation in terms of the international order where the united states has so much
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power, yeah, so much like super power in terms of
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Can like not control but in terms of like
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This we're going to we're going to be on the right side of things. Yeah, just in general hemej uh, hegenemy
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Yeah, hegemony and when we indicate we're not gonna do that anymore. Yeah, it's
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Terrifying. Yeah. Oh, absolutely and not because like the world can't do it without us they can but if we become bad actors
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The world's fucked right? Well, I mean it's it's kind of built around the concept that has been uh,
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In place probably for the last 40 years of like america's military is such that
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Is as far out as anybody wants to go as far out as any war or invasion wants to go if you go too far
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america does have all the guns, you know so many like our guns are
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Oh russia is building up their military. Oh china is building up to their military
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They want to increase it by tenfold that still puts them at one one thousandth fold of the dumb bullshit
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That america has so for so long even even the people who want to act as invaders or who want to
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Annex territory know that there's a point where it's not a world war
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It's america blowing your ass fucking up, you know
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Well, and I think the third world understands that yeah
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And I think that refugees fleeing a lot of those places understand that you know, they're not
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Those places understand that yeah. Well, well, I mean they understand it all too much now and that
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Is another piece of the puzzle in terms of this anti-immigration anti-refugee world view
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I don't know. I think we're spinning way too far into the yeah, we're going we're going wild in speculation
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But I love this sort of conversation. I think that I think
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I think what we're butting our heads up against is that like both of us are fucking fatalistic and we think we're doomed
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but at the same time I have a tiny bit of like
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Hey, there's a chance
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And then at the same time like we do a show about alex jones and i'm sitting here with dead evidence
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Dead to rights that he knew shit that he claims. He doesn't know. Yeah, I know and i'm still saying that like
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You know what? I think he's still being tricked
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You know, like I so I well, maybe i'm maybe i'm dreamy-eyed optimist, but right no
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No, no, my fatalism isn't born out of america not surviving trump or the white nationalist
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Like we've it's about climate change like while we're doing this shit
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We're fucking up the world. Well, which is why which only creates more refugees which only creates more nationalist
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Separatism movements which only creates more people who are willing to fucking let the world die
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Which is why in the memo that came from the open societies from soros is uh, uh, they got hacked
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They were talking about this, uh refugee influx being the new normal
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Yeah, and of course, it's going to be the new norm. Absolutely not because of some sort of like desire
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For hey, let's fuck up white people with bright and brown people, right?
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It's just because do you look at the realities of the world and if trends keep going the way they are
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There's going to be huge swashes of land that are going to be uninhabitable and people are going to have to be displaced
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And you better fucking let them in you think about I mean just think about people how people have reacted to
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Puerto rican refugees
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Think about they're like, oh are you a citizen?
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Yes
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I live in america think about how our government has dealt with the deaths in. Puerto rico. Yeah, absolutely
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Like now there's like 10 people. You're like, what are you like 10,000 10 million. Eh, don't worry about it
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It's you're not mainland. No
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But that's what you were saying earlier when I said I lived in hawaii. Anyway, I know but that was full circle
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That was a joke. It was satire. It was satire
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So I want to leave you with a fun clip, yeah because this episode has been
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I would say largely evidence that uh, alex jones is a party to treason
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It's been revelatory more than it has been. Yeah when I started listening to this
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I didn't expect to hear the things that I heard
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But uh, I didn't also expect to hear this now. I have always been a critic of alex jones's uh,
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uh childhood literacy
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Um and listen to this
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I was like seven years old and I was reading the star wars trilogy and one paperback that my dad, you know
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Had gotten episode four five and six so I was reading adult. I think I actually read that same paperback
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He loves science fiction. I think we were talking about earlier. I think I actually read that same paperback fine, but hold on
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Okay
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Stuff when I was seven eight years old really good reader
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Uh wasn't good at spelling your math, but i've been a good reader. I mean I was reading like a you know
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eighth grade level when I was about five
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and
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I suddenly started reading history books and they were just so entertaining
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And I remember being about 10 years old. My mom's going you're reading nishi
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Do you understand that i'm like not really but i'm into this she
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but
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Did you understand that not really but i'm into this? Yeah. Yeah. That's what he was doing when he was a kid
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He was just looking at books
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so
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Also, I would say that nichi is not uh history
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Necessarily. Oh, well, I mean the parts of history that he's involved with don't go. Well, not great
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No, there's a lot of philosophy in there. Certainly a lot of uh, a lot of a lot of ideas
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Yeah, and if you're somebody who's into that
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I'm not into you
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Also, I could let that go also if you're a kid and you're like, I don't understand this but i'm into it
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So, um, so i'm eight years old and i'm reading nichi now, obviously that makes me both an interesting person and
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And I think I should be murdered like that's that's what you say to me if you're an eight-year-old who this just furthers
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My argument that i've been making this entire goddamn time that alex was reading books that he didn't understand
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Yeah, and is now claiming he understood them. He just said he didn't fucking understand them at 10
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I wonder if he understood the star wars trilogy. Probably not. Yeah, i'll be honest
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He plays the imperial march all the time on his show. Yeah, that's a good point. That's not great
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That's a good point
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but also i'll say that when I was like eight nine years old I read a bunch of
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Tin-tin that my dad had and I didn't understand how fucking racist that shit was ridiculous
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I grew up and i'm like I liked the stories, but holy shit, right?
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Holy shit. This is some of the most racist shit. I thought it was in my life. Oh, yeah. This is crazy
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I don't understand this in the house. I don't understand how everybody who watched song of the south as a child
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Isn't like wandering around going like what the fuck was the world like?
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It's crazy. I watched that when I was a child i'd forgotten about it and then in college. I watched it with a young lady
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uh
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and I was like
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Oh dear god. Yeah. Oh dear god. Oh, oh, oh, oh no
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this is almost as racist as a
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A fucking chitty chitty bang bang like it's crazy. Also the child catcher not great the child catcher. Oh
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Yeah, that's right. Um, so anyway
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What we come away with I think is no concrete
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Uh, I don't know. I don't know how to make this
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it's it's it's
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The problem that we run into is the limits of our uh, well when I say our I mean your uh
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investigative abilities
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in so far as we have
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I think the most
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Circumstantial evidence that you could ever need to convict somebody of committing treason
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But we don't have that like eyewitness like we don't have that
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Uh, uh DNA print, you know what i'm saying his own, uh eyewitness
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Well, yeah, but if you we we couldn't actually get him to I mean, I suppose if he testified he'd just
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Admit, we could do cross and just be like, hey, why did you say this see again? So
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We moved to austin become lawyers become lawyers pass the bar or spend four years as
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Four years as public defenders that shows that we care about the yeah or
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Yeah, his ex-wife is now trying to sue him and unplug info wars, which I think is a stupid idea what but if we get
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called as material witnesses
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But you know what even if you're a witness you can't make alex answer something you can just you just bring things up
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This isn't gonna work no, no, no, we gotta do more planning on this. Yeah. Look here's the fucking deal. Um, alex knew stuff
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Alex a hundred percent knows he knows way more you look at the fucking date. You look at the timeline
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You look at all this. It's just it's dead to rights. Yeah, it's nonsense. I I love this because this to me
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And I know I said this earlier, but this is the reason why his show sucks now
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He knows people are listening. Yeah, and he knows he committed crimes. Yeah
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And he knows he committed crimes. Yeah, so he just can't do the same things
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So what he does is he fills time with just screaming about dumb shit
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Saying the same things he did back before that are less interesting
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They could go into the fucking chimera stuff much deeper now and that'd be fun
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Yeah, but then he has people like mike rotondo on and pretends that like oh, this is fun. You know, we're gonna
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We're gonna save you
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Or whatever or scream about muslims, you know, like he does that stuff because that's what is okay
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Hey, what's not okay is recognizing that
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dude
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You are in the barrel. You don't know it
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You do know it, but you might not be aware of it alex your time is coming
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I I you know what I feel like this is I I feel like you're wrong
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Based on like the megan kelly interview situation where alex knew no that he said some shit
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Where he should have been dead to rights and then whenever it actually came out there was fucking nothing on it
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No, like he's the same thing. No because he understood how megan kelly's show works
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They're not going to play the clip where he says this was all fake, right?
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They were just going to try and make him feel bad by playing the family members and stuff. Yeah
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Yeah, yeah, and he has a steely, uh upper lip about that. He doesn't he doesn't give a shit. Well, he's a psychopath
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Yeah, exactly. He doesn't give a shit about that
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He's just going to say like I want to apologize to them for what the media has said about me
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I want to make it right. I want look everyone lies about me. Yeah
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He knows that megan kelly's show isn't going to dip into like, okay. Well, here's what you did say
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Comment now beyond that because here's what happens when you do that
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Alex will storm out and he won't sign the release
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Fair enough. He didn't sign the release beforehand. He's not a fucking idiot
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The way that he was acting about the way that he was afraid kind of that seemed genuine to me
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It suggests to me that he signed it beforehand. No, like he wouldn't have been afraid if he knew if he had
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No, if he had final cut he didn't alex does not have any fear
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He didn't have final cut but he didn't have any like the reason he was afraid or rights of approval or whatever
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He's not afraid is because he's not a journalist
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right
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He's an entertainer
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He pretends that he understands how these shows are made and stuff like that, but he doesn't really understand it
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So he he knows that for hours that he probably was on a hot mic
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I probably said some stupid shit that could be used against. Oh, he said the n-word
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45 times. No, that's ted nugent
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But like very like he he knows that he probably like off camera heads like he's seen the jinx
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And so like well, I probably said something that really was fucked up and they could use that against me something like that
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While he's while he's peeing. He was like, oh I committed treason. How did they guess? I don't know
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That's what he's afraid of on some level not realizing that this is a fucking saccharini sweet sunday night show
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Yeah, all they want to do is make him look bad about sandy hook, but not too bad
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No, they want to they want to make him look like he was wrong
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And that is something that is indicative of a larger issue if he's storm, but not like him ruin their fucking show. Yeah, absolutely
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Absolutely. It ruined the entire proceeding. Yeah, the whole show was about him squirming, right?
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It was not about him being caught as was the pre-show that he did. It was about him squirming
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It works for both of them. Anyway, I don't know
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Let's end this they're all in cahoots
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And somewhat in some way. Yes. Yeah. No, no, absolutely not like they're in concert with each other like a quid pro quo
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They all have similar goals. They all kind of know what it is. They're going man
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They're all making kelly. Yeah. Oh, well, have you seen her daytime talk show? Do you see her interview Putin?
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No, it was brutal. It was brutal
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I don't know. I don't know how it is. We're supposed to combat this in a way that doesn't
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Involve like actually putting propagandists in jail
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Like prop if propagandists never experiences, uh any consequences for their actions?
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Then it's never going to stop
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Because propaganda is only gonna get more sophisticated and it has yeah, it's become
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information warfare or info wars
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But but I still think I still think most of it falls under the heading of free speech
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It's it's everyone's responsibility. Yeah, you know, I don't know everyone's responsibility to be smart and
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Like because it's not a crime to lie except in the situations where you're lying about a building burning down
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Right or something like that. They're they're
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Look, dude, look propaganda should be illegal, but then you're gonna open up the can of worms of like what is propaganda?
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Right, but that's definition. That's ultimately that's ultimately a slippery soap argument
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No, it's not it's a logistics argument
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It's a logistics argument. It's it's what like where where at what point do you draw the line?
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That's not the same as a slippery slope
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The slippery slope would be like I say this is illegal now. This is now this is
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but that's the that's the argument against what you're saying is that
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If we are going to start making laws about propaganda
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Then it matters who is in control of how those laws are prosecuted
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like with trump and illegal immigration or or
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Well, you know all all of these fucking people. Well, I mean, it's the conversation we have with the patriot act
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Like this is being put into power who knows who's going to be president right and obama again
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Deported a more than gw did you know it's it's like
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Regardless of who's in power. It does matter about how they exercise
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That power of prosecution agree. So I so I don't know. It's a it's a slippery slope argument in
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in the way that
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Who the fuck knows if an autocrat is going to become president? That's not a slippery slope argument
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That is a concern
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That's not there are there is a difference between fair enough. I accept that no, that's that's a
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A voicing of a concern of what what could be possible in the future that's different than slippery slope
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That's like that's like I do this and then right before you know it x well
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But at the same time the idea trump is interesting like we make this legal that means that in the future
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The other person can do this because it's legal. That's not a slippery slope
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That's just recognizing the future exists
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But that's also the creation of ice and the way that we all assumed that obama a lot of people were against it was fine
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Right and obama was against it from the jump and then he fucking
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Allowed it to go
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hog wild
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And then and then trump gets in power and all of a sudden that hog wild that obama allowed
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We didn't even know could get worse
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but it's I mean that's bullshit to some extent because like I think that you even as like
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Just as a person who was out and about uh living my life
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I knew that ice was doing some really fucked up stuff even before the election. Yeah, um, even in no, that's true
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Yeah, like they there were um
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I would go to open mics and I would hear from people that like, uh, there were just like
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Traps, yeah set up. Yeah that they were just trying to get any immigrants legal or illegal jaded up, right?
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Uh, right to you know, like separate it right and that that stuff was going on
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I quit doing stand-up two years ago. Yeah, it's like they were doing that
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well in the past
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Anyway, who gives a shit?
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Not who gives a shit about that, but like we we gotta end this
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No, and and all i'm saying is that in chicago the uh, there have been a bunch of murders recently, too
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U.s immigration and customs, uh enforcement is at 101 west congress parkway, chicago, illinois
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If you feel like uh protesting them feel free to show up at also also
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Let's be fucking clear about this in the last like week and a half or so. There's been
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Some murders, uh by the police here in chicago. Oh, yeah
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Yeah, I mean there always are but these ones are worse the chicago police department is a white supremacist organization
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That is willing to murder. We have black sites where people are tortured. What's that?
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Yeah. Yeah. No the the chicago police department is something that should be fucking
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Abolished and replaced with I don't know community policing or something like that. But yeah, we're we're overwhelmed by
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white supremacist
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Terrorist organization good times. Yay
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Um, jordan, uh, we need to get out of here. Our website is knowledgefight.com
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It is if you wanted to follow us on twitter at dollars right we're on facebook
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Absolutely, you can go to itunes you could download an episode
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You could share an episode please you could leave a room
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I would say if you've made it this far, please share this episode because I think that the evidence we've uncovered here
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I think a lot of people need to hear
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Maybe not maybe not some of our ramblings, but the the the stuff where alex is very clearly
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He has knowledge in advance. Yeah. No, this is this is probably it's damning
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I not incontrovertible but goddamn close to
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It's proof that alex jones was aware of treason and he needs to be asked way more very specific questions
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Absolutely. So now we've come to the end of this and it is your turn dickweed. Oh
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Really? Why do I have to be called a dickweed? I don't know. I just don't want to I I don't like doing it
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So i'm i'm telling you something right now. I'm thrilled to make you the
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The thing that bothers me the most is that uh, or at least you fucking say neil shawn again
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At least for today. All right, uh is that the u.s. Ambassador to england
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Absolutely
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Lobbied the government to try and get tommy fucking robinson
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Released from prison. So if I have anybody who should go fuck themselves, I would say
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70 of the state department go fuck yourself
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We can't end on that that didn't come up in the show. Oh, okay
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uh robinson did come up in the show, but I the the
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70 of the state department didn't you have to choose someone else? I understand and I agree with you
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All right, but the whole bit so who came up in the show, but this has been a show entirely about alex
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That's not true tons of other people have come up
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Well, I mean obviously the most important person the fancy boy that needs to go fuck himself the styler and profiler in chief
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That will almost certainly
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Wind up getting fucked by himself
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Go fuck yourself roger stone
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Andy in kansas you're on the air. Thanks for holding
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Me
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Hello alex i'm a first time caller i'm a huge fan. I love your work. I love you