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Andy in Kansas, you're on the air, thanks for holding.
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Hello Alex, I'm a first time caller, I'm a huge fan, I love your work.
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I love you.
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Hey everybody, welcome back to Knowledge Fight, I'm Dan.
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I'm JORDAN!
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We're a couple dudes, like to sit around, drink novelty beverages, and talk a little bit about Alex Jones.
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Today's novelty beverage is zombie dust.
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Indeed we are Dan...
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Dan?
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Jordan.
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Dan.
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Jordan, sir.
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If you were furious...
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Uh huh.
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...at so many different things happening concurrently...
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The world is upon me.
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Right.
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Uh, much, much like Atlas, everything hanging upon your shoulders, and some random stranger just walked up to you off the street, and was like, one, I work for Chase Bank, two, I am a shareholder in the WWE Network, do you do a podcast, and if so, describe it to me.
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I do, and it's about me, uh, I don't know a lot about Alex Jones, this guy I know, he doesn't know anything about him, and we talk about it, that's the podcast, uh, shit's just been nuts, and I apologize, I don't want to complain about it, uh, I've been, uh, fucked over by Chase Bank and the WWE Network, they'd hit me with a doomsday device, and I've been down for the count.
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Yes, yeah, yeah.
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It's been a really terrible couple days, but everything is looking up because we're here.
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You were stunned by someone who was stone cold.
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Absolutely brutal, uh, but we're here, and, uh, we are going to have a great time today, uh, Jordan, today we had an interesting podcast, uh, I was hoping to actually use your joke, your bit intro, where you're like, this guy walks up to you, and I would be like, are you from Austin?
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Because then I would say, if you're from Austin, I don't want to tell you what my podcast is about, I will tell you to come, uh, June 15th to Beer Land in Austin, Texas.
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We have never rehearsed a bit, why would you imagine that I would just come up with, like, do we have a-
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These are notes, these are post-notes.
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You're giving me notes?
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Yes, for next time.
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Alright, alright, okay.
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I have some notes right in front of me.
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Okay, oh no.
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I have some notes right here, and they are, Dan, say thank you to our new sponsors, which I would like to do right now, I'd like to say-
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We would also like to thank you in Austin this Friday, Beer Land.
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I'm gonna get to it, I'm gonna get to it.
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Doors at nine.
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I'm gonna get to that.
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Ten o'clock.
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We'll do a little bit more here in a second, but first, I'd like to say thank you to a new donor out there, what's going on, Dean?
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I'm a policy wonk.
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Thank you so much.
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Thank you very much, Dean.
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We appreciate it.
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Also, I'd like to give a shout out to another new donor, uh, thank you so much, Bob.
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I'm a policy wonk.
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Bobby!
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Thank you, Bob Vila, villain of the Home Improvement television series.
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This old donation.
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Yeah, alright.
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Get the fuck out of here.
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If you'd like to support-
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Minus one out the gate!
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If you'd like to support the show, you can do so by going to knowledgefight.com, clicking support the show, and, uh, we would really appreciate it.
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Now, as I, uh, teased there a second ago, we are going to be in Austin, Texas, this Friday.
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Right.
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Uh, at, uh, Beer Land, 10pm, doors open at nine.
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We'd love to see you all out there.
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Tickets still available.
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I think only at the door.
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They're available, they're not available.
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Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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In advance.
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There will be seating.
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And, and, believe me, they'll be available.
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Yeah.
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Um, and, uh, so, today-
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And once again, we are doing most of our advertising to people who already listen to the podcast and have decided, uh, whether or not to go long ago.
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Yes.
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So-
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I'm certain.
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So we're, we're great at marketing, uh, and we are grateful to everybody who in, in Austin who is already kicking ass for us.
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Thank you so much.
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Thank you.
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Yeah.
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So, um, I wanted today, what I wanted to do is, uh, I wanted to celebrate the city of Austin.
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Yes.
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And I will say that, uh, I have found a great Austin-related episode for the live show.
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All right.
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On Friday, it'd be right into Texas.
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Uh, but I've found another Austin episode.
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Okay.
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Austin-y episode that takes us into some-
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Austin-y episode?
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Yeah, there's some Austin-
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Is that like Schomburg or Chicago-y?
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Is that the kind of thing?
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Sort of.
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All right.
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It's not, it's not like about Red Rock or whatever.
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Oh, well then I don't want to hear it!
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Is that what it is?
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Isn't that the name of it?
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Redwall?
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I have no idea.
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I don't know.
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It's called Ice Fighting.
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Correct.
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Uh, called Brian, uh, written by Brian Jakes?
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You're correct.
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Jocks.
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Um, but, uh, before we get to today's episode, um, I should say we did record an episode
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over the weekend that we were going to release on Monday, and, uh, the universe saw fit to
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not let that be recorded.
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And it got lost.
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Right.
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And, good, it should have been.
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We, uh, it was, it's really fascinating because the entire episode was-
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Mostly.
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Really about how you felt it, that what we were talking about should be ignored and that
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we shouldn't be doing that episode.
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Cosmically, we then did not do that episode.
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We were talking about how everyone should ignore, uh, Alex's comments about the death
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of Anthony Bourdain, and then, bizarrely, the episode doesn't record as if it were God
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saying, cut it out.
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I can promise that we actually recorded the episode.
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Right.
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I can guarantee that.
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And this isn't some way that we're stealth saying that you should-
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It's not some meta bit or anything.
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Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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But-
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We're bad at bits, let alone meta bits.
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In that episode, we did cover also a little bit of the other stuff that Alex talked about
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on that Friday episode, and there's one clip that I think is so important that no one is
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talking about that we do need to play it here at the beginning of this episode.
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Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
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Just because this cannot be, uh, not heard by the people.
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Since we recorded it last night, I can almost remember it.
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So this is from the June 8th, 2018 episode of the Alex Jones show.
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Alex Jones is on vacation in Hawaii, but he calls into the show a couple hours before
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he calls in to talk about Anthony Bourdain's death.
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He calls in to say this.
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Alex, how refreshing is it to see a president that essentially flips the bird to the globalist
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at the G7 summit?
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That's right.
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Coming up in the next segment, we will play the clip as he was going out to Marine One
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Helicopter to take off to the G7, and he pointed out that he tried to play nice with Trudeau,
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he tried to play nice with Macron and others, but he tore into him and said, listen, Russia
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should be in the G7, back to G8.
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They were taken out five years ago.
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That is not Obama.
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The globalist.
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Whether you like it or not, this is the only place Trump's been behind on.
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He was ahead of it during the campaign, the clear alliance that the patriots in the Pentagon,
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there's bad guys in there too.
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No, there's the best.
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There's three different factions, really, but there's two dominant ones.
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The patriots in the Pentagon, so we should link up with Russia.
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They've got incredible resources, four times our land mass, more resources than even Africa.
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They've become a Christian nation.
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They've got lower taxes on us.
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We should link up, but geographically we'll control the whole planet.
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Yikes.
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Right.
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So we freaked out and screamed about this for like 10 minutes yesterday.
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No need to sort of recreate that, except to say, hey guys, there's Alex saying that he
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and the patriots that he's aware of within the intelligence services want to hook up
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with Russia and dominate the world.
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Right.
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Geographically.
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Yep.
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Dominate the world.
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That was the plan.
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So that's not great.
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Which I believe we came to the conclusion that that made him a globalist.
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I think dominating a globe makes one a globalist.
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The only thing about that that I still cannot get over is what is the third faction in the
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Pentagon?
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What is it?
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So we got the Patriots, we've got one confirmed faction, assumably the other one is the globalists
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or at least globalist controlled vampires.
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Globalist adjacent.
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What is the third one?
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The sommeliers.
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The sommeliers?
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The wine merchants?
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Yeah, the wine snobs.
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See, now I feel like that's again a very antisemitic thing.
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No.
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We got wine snobs over here.
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We got wine snobs.
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Patriots.
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Patriots.
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Globalists.
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Globalists.
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Right.
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What are the wines?
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The wine snobs sit around and just laugh and like, aha, they're using the wrong cheese
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with that red wine.
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Aha, sacre bleu.
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Ah, you should have brought a charcuterie.
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Absolutely.
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No, do they send go-between messages?
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Like you can trust a wine aficionado.
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They're so absorbed in wine that they don't care about distorting the words that you say.
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So is that how they communicate with each other?
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Do they send missives?
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Have they turned wine purchases into a coded language?
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Absolutely.
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Okay.
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That makes sense.
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I'm done.
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It's like...
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All right.
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Yeah.
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So, Jordan, today what we're going to be going over is the November 30th, 2014 episode of
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the Alex Jones show.
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Right.
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It's very Austin-y.
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Yeah.
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I'd like to see if you have any idea why I have chosen this as an Austin-y episode.
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November 30th?
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Mm-hmm.
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2014.
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Right.
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So that was when... let's see, what happens in November 30th?
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Just after Thanksgiving.
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That was probably the... oh, no, no, that was the reenactment of the first Thanksgiving
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when Christ was crucified?
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Incorrect.
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No, they do the Thanksgiving... no?
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Nope.
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All right.
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Incorrect.
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Bethlehem?
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Nope.
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Are you sure?
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On November 28th at two-twenty-something in the morning, a gentleman by the name of Larry
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McWilliams went on a shooting spree in Austin and shot a ton of bullets at the police station
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and tried to set fire to the Mexican consulate.
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Also shot a bunch of bullets at the federal courthouse.
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He was shot down by a cop eventually.
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He had Let Me Die written in marker across his chest.
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He also, in his pocket, had a copy of a book that was...
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Where to Hide Your Guns.
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Exactly.
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Yep.
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We'll get into more detail about it later, but it's tied to a Christian identity supremacy
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group that is very racist and anti-Semitic.
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They are called the Phineas Priesthood, and it's not really like a specific group.
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It's kind of like a loose-knit group of people who, you know, you just get to call yourself
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a priest in this Phineas Priesthood.
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And he had a book about them and their history in his pocket, much like as if it was catcher
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in the rye for him, which, I mean, speaks volumes about what he was about.
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Of course.
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So I went and...
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So they're definitely talking about Bethlehem, then.
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There might be some of that.
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You might have been more right than I knew.
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Did they hurt anybody?
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Or did he hurt anybody?
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I assume the group has probably hurt people.
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No one ended up hurt.
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There was more property damage from what I've been able to glean.
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That's kind of the most Austin-y mass shooting I can think of.
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Austin is so cool, even their mass shooters are like, wait, we don't want to hurt anybody.
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I don't think he didn't want to hurt anybody.
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I recognize that!
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But he picked the right targets, you know?
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He picked the big three.
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You go after the police station, you go after the courthouse, you gotta go after the Mexican
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consulate after that.
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Also our friend Art Acevedo, the then Austin police chief, did speculate that there was
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reason to believe that the attack could have been politically motivated, an anti-government
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attack that also might be linked to feelings about immigration, being as he tried to set
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the Mexican consulate on fire.
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I'm a big fan of Acevedo.
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That seems pretty obvious.
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That's some good detective work I recognize.
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From Texas Monthly, shooting up a Mexican consulate shortly after President Obama issued
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his executive order regarding immigration does indicate a potential motive.
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Certainly he's also, if you looked over...
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That would be a wild coincidence.
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If you looked over his social media, you'd find that he had posted a lot of really positive
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stuff about Ron Paul in the past, so there's some sort of connection that he had there
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philosophically.
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And he also was a guy who'd been arrested and done time for robbing a bank some years
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prior.
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He tried to rob a...
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What is more anti-government than that?
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He tried to rob a Brinks truck, from what I've been able to find.
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Wait, and a bank?
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No, that was the thing.
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That counts as a bank.
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That does not count as a bank.
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To the law, it does.
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That does not count as a bank.
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There have to be tellers, you have to stand on the thing and shoot bullets up in the air.
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You gotta do the whole thing.
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According to the law, it counts.
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I would also accept sliding a piece of paper to the teller that says, I have a gun, please
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put $100,000...
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You can't slide that note to the Brinks guy.
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He's got a gun.
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No, he's definitely got a gun.
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So this guy was a mess, and he had a lot of indications that he might be the sort of guy
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who'd be doing this kind of stuff.
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He ended up getting shot by a cop pretty...
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Not too long after he went all shooty.
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But he's an old white guy, he's a 49-year-old white guy, and so that's gonna make Alex...
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Man, we still need them around.
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If they weren't here...
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Stop it.
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Oh, boy.
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So because the guy's an old white dude, Alex has some complicated feelings about it.
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He should be, against it, kind of a fan.
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Alex doesn't really know what to do with it, and we'll watch him spin his wheels.
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This is the 30th, and on the 28th, he took the day off.
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The 28th was a Friday.
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He took that off because he's like...
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He was too busy masturbating to this guy.
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Thanksgiving.
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Maybe.
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Maybe Thanksgiving.
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But he had a pre-recorded show, and it was really funny to listen to that, like what
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he's complaining about, knowing that that morning...
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There's an active shooter.
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Yeah.
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Yeah, but a huge shooter.
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He's been a white terrorist.
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It's kind of funny that he's like, we're gonna replay a great interview with Michael Savage.
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All right.
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All right, bro.
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So here's the first clip where Alex discusses what he thinks is going on with this guy.
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Already, hard to believe, the 30th day of November, 2014 on the...
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Also one of the most offensive things I've ever heard on this show.
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He's playing ZZ Top to start the show.
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Please.
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Please.
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This live Sunday edition.
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I'm your host, Alex Jones.
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We'll be here as we are every Sunday, 4 to 6 p.m. Central Standard Time.
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I intend to open the phones up throughout really the last two-thirds of the transmission
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from the bottom of the hour forward, and I intend to try to be disciplined, which everybody
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knows I'm not, to go over as much news as possible.
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There's just so much here to talk about.
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I live in Austin, Texas, where a few days ago, we had somebody at 2.22 a.m., we know
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his name, McWilliams, running around shooting up the police station, the Mexican Consulate,
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and the federal building.
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He's my hero.
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And folks want to know my take on that.
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He's my hero.
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Hero.
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Well, I'll give you my take on that event.
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Slain Austin Shooter likely had anti-government motive.
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Hero.
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Was against open borders.
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That's what they're saying is likely.
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I saw some online videos of him training with ninja swords and stuff, and he fits the same
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M.O. as this guy on the East Coast that killed one cop and was hunting others who was obsessed
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with video games.
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I just think these are mentally ill people.
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Okay.
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Okay.
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Cool.
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So that's your take on this one.
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He's a mentally ill guy.
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Yay!
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Hey, why wouldn't you want him to have a gun?
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He already had swords.
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He could have slashed up the police station.
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There's no stopping this guy.
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There's so much ninja training.
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Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
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Thank God he brought a gun, because if he brought a sword he would have had to use the
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ninja training.
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We never would have caught the guy.
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Thank God the Second Amendment doesn't cover smoke bombs.
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Oh, yeah.
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So I would say that in present day or so, you wouldn't, Alex doesn't like this argument
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of like they're mentally ill folks.
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Yeah.
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Except when he wants to use it in order to throw bombs at pharmaceuticals.
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Right.
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They're all just, they're zombies on their Prozac, I don't know about you.
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Oh!
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So this is an interesting way that he's already allowed for this to be like, hey, it doesn't
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matter.
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And he's tossed a video game in there, so, hey, he played a lot of video games.
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You know that discount thing.
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There's the other guy who he's comparing it to.
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Oh, okay.
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These are similar guys.
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Okay.
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This other white, white shooter, but that is not the angle he's going to go with.
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That's just what he starts with.
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He's going to go with, this guy lives what I preach.
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No.
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He's not going to say that.
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Slightly different.
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He's not going to say that word for word, what this guy does is what I tell people to
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do.
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This is going to, you're not going to like this.
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I'm not going to like this?
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No.
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I just think these are mentally ill people.
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That said, they're still dangerous.
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In fact, more dangerous because you don't really know when they're going to strike.
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But I want to tie that in, his so-called protest to Ferguson, because I think both incidences
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of violence are illegitimate.
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No.
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God damn it.
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No.
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You can't even fucking do that.
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How do you do that?
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How do you fucking do that?
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That is, the problem is as awful as that is, there's a certain part of my brain that's
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like, I never would have made that connection, man.
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You got to give them credit where credit is due.
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Never would I have even considered that it was possible to connect those two events.
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So good on you, Alex, for figuring out the single worst narrative that is humanly possible.
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I don't understand why you wouldn't put those pieces together, like in terms of...
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What do you mean why I wouldn't put those pieces together?
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Hey, I bet that's what Alex is going to say.
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How could I possibly have put those two pieces together?
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Is there an active shooter that shot up the fucking Mexican consulate in Ferguson?
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Does Ferguson have a Mexican consulate?
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No.
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Why does Austin have a Mexican consulate?
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That was another question.
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It's in Texas.
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Border state.
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Well, yeah, but is Austin on the border?
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No.
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Not quite.
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No.
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Okay.
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All right.
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Never mind.
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Dude, calm down.
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You should 100% have seen that coming, and I think it's very...
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I can't imagine why.
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It's irresponsible of you that you...
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Why would I have seen that coming?
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Because it's...
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What are the similarities?
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Well, at the end of November 2014, Alex is desperate to discredit the situation in Ferguson
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because it does not look good.
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We have a situation where just not too long before where we're at right now, the...
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Damn it, I wish I had the exact date.
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The policeman who shot Michael Brown was acquitted.
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Right.
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I wish I had the...
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Right.
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Darren Wilson was acquitted.
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I don't have the exact date.
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But it's right around then, so he's...
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Of course I should have obviously made the connection that Alex would make a negative
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connection to a white man murdering a black person, right?
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And then everybody being rightfully outraged by that, to a white man shooting up a police
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station and the Mexican consulate, and that of course makes sense.
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Well, see, this is a thing where Alex has to take...
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What's in front of him in his own city is an act of white supremacist terror, basically.
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So you compare it to the most recent act of white supremacist terror, or state-sponsored
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white supremacist terror.
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Well, no, no.
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You compare it to the reaction to the state's...
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Nah, see, that doesn't make sense to me.
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No, it makes perfect sense if you're going from an Alex perspective.
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Right.
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Because you need to...
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You just made me feel really good.
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Even after all this time, I can't see things through Alex's eyes.
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Oh, and I make myself feel terrible.
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Yeah, yeah.
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You should feel awful if you saw that coming.
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Well, because you need to look at it like...
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You've gone native, Dan.
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I'm willing to throw this guy under the bus, this white dude under the bus.
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Even though he's my guy.
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But the only way I'm gonna do that is if on the way out I can tie him to legitimate protest
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that might have involved a little bit of looting here and there, but that wasn't the entire
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protest.
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That wasn't even most of it.
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Don't care.
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Most of that shit should have burned down.
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Well, there's an argument to be made there.
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Yeah.
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Who cares?
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The issue is you take white terrorism and black protest, and you conflate the two, and
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all of a sudden you can complain about both of them in the same way and appear that you're
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rising above the racial tension.
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And he's like, oh, they're all just trying to get us to fight with each other.
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When I ate this clearly deranged lunatic shot up a bunch of police federal buildings, tried
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to burn down the Mexican consulate, like, nah, this is just protest.
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God, we could go line by line.
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Everything that that guy did, Alex suggested that people should do.
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Oh, yeah, to a certain extent I'm sure he did.
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No, no, no.
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I bet word for word.
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I guarantee that if we went through, I would never force you to do all this work, but if
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you went through everything that Alex Jones said from like 2003 to the day before that,
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you would probably get sooner or later you get like, you should shoot up the police station.
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Those courthouses need to be shot up.
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That Mexican consulate, who knows what they're doing there?
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Shoot it.
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I got a real bone to pick with the Mexican consulate.
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God, how bad.
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You know what?
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Who does it?
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Got a bad feeling about those people.
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I'm very pro immigration, but that Mexican consulate, that's worse than the DMV.
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No doubt.
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I tried to get my Mexican citizenship papers there and they were like, you're not.
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It was very, it was very difficult.
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So Alex is operating on a bunch of real hard and fast sources.
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Right.
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Imaginary.
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There's a lot of real good information.
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Imaginary.
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So let's jump into that.
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And I got a lot of heat from the quote black community.
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Never liked that.
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I never liked that.
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Shouldn't say quote black community.
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I don't like that.
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Last week for criticizing shooting at police and firefighters and shooting up their vehicles
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and shooting two cops and FBI just got shot.
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Real quick about those FBI agents.
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This is from the CNBC article about that quote, two FBI agents were shot at a barricaded home
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just miles from the protest wrecked St Louis suburb of Ferguson early Wednesday.
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Police said both suffered non threatening injuries after the shooting in North St Louis
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County.
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The incident occurred around three 15 AM local time.
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Authorities in St Louis County have been dealing with violent protests after a grand jury decided
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not to indict Ferguson police officer Darren Wilson over the fatal shooting of unarmed
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teen Michael Brown.
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It was not immediately clear whether the shooting was connected to the unrest.
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So it's probably a completely unrelated thing at the time that Alex is able to report on
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it.
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Right.
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So he's just compared.
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He's just relating things that he has no business.
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It's just the same city.
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How far away were they from Ferguson's Mexican consulate?
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That's a great question.
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That's a great question.
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Why don't the cops ever investigate that?
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I don't know.
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All sorts of stuff happened.
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That makes protesting look bad.
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When Time magazine came out and said violent riots necessary, close quote.
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That is not a quote.
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You should not be allowed to use close quote when you're not quoting.
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This was an article in Time magazine that was called not violent, violent protests or
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violent riots are necessary.
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The headline was in defense of rioting.
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Right.
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Which is like what Martin Luther King Jr. wrote.
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Yeah.
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And I'll read you a bit of that article that Alex doesn't want to deal with because he's
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never read it.
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I assume they probably quote MLK's letters from a Birmingham.
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No, actually they don't.
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They could have.
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Yeah, they could have really gone hard on that.
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Yeah, they know.
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It seems like an obvious way to go.
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No, it's just more of a discussion of the realities in our modern time in each other.
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Right.
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Do you mean that violent protest is necessary?
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And about how like the tea party, the Boston Tea Party was seen the way it is because we
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won.
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And rioting has only ever looked bad when it's the group that doesn't win.
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Who won?
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Protesting always looks bad to people who really don't like the content of what the
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protest is about.
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Oh, yeah.
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Isn't that crazy?
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Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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It's not the right way to do things, Dan.
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It's not the right way to just accept it that you're going to get fucked in the ass for
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the rest of your life and for the rest of your children's lives and really for the rest
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of America's life.
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That's the right way to go about protesting, Dan.
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Sure, sure.
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So I don't want to dive too deep into that because we will get into it in a little bit.
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But for now, I want Alex to get back to these headlines because he's got some like these
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just got barn burners of headlines.
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And keep in mind, some of these are the same story, but a link from CNN and a link from
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Time magazine.
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All right.
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That sort of thing.
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So, like, he goes there.
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Is there ever not much to talk?
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He always opens up.
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Oh, we got so much to talk about.
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Does he ever open up with, like, I slow down?
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Not a lot going on today, guys.
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I want to talk about demons.
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Globalists are taking an off day.
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No, everything is always intense.
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OK, well, we're going to look at this headline.
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Time magazine columnist, violent riots necessary.
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That's from Time magazine.
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It's not.
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Also, CNN is lying when they say Ferguson protesters were peaceful.
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That's an info.
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Another key report from info was an arsonist target of keepers protecting Ferguson businesses.
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It's all on video, exclusive info Wars Nightly News last Friday night.
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So that was an article about how the brave, brave oath keepers are protecting St. Louis
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businesses and they're being attacked by the horrible protesters.
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Can I get a list of things that the oath keepers have protected?
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Well, I don't want to talk about that right now.
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Fair enough.
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But what I do want to talk about is Alex in the last clip before this was talking about
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how there's so much going on involving, like, the St. Louis situation in Ferguson.
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And it's all about how white people are great.
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This is not going to be a full episode where we talk about the realities of Ferguson.
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Other people have done much better jobs of that than we ever will.
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I also think we've done that before.
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I don't think we have entirely.
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You don't think?
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Oh, no, I don't think we have entirely either.
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But when Alex brings up the oath keepers, it's really difficult for me not to point
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out that during the entire conflagration with Ferguson, policeman Dan Page was relieved
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of duty in St. Louis after he was caught on camera at an oath keepers meeting rattling
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off horribly racist, homophobic nonsense.
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What?
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In the police?
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Yeah.
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There was a white supremacist there?
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He said that there are at least four sodomites on the Supreme Court and called Barack Obama
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our, which four, our, quote, undocumented president from Kenya.
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Who is it?
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Also later, when Don Lemon, seriously, which four on the Supreme Court, when Don Lemon
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was in Ferguson, covering the protests for CNN, yeah, this cop, Dan Page, physically
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assaulted him.
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Oh, yeah.
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On camera.
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Well, he's a cop.
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Yeah.
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What else?
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What else are we paying him for?
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Don Lemon's black.
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Yeah.
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Hey, what do we have?
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What else are we paying him for?
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Right.
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So that was a guy who's a part of the oath keeper keepers.
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Right.
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So that's kind of a bit of the mentality they got.
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Hey, do you know what they do, though?
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And you got to give them this.
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They keep their oaths.
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Sure.
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To be racist as shit.
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Exactly.
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Now, also, admittedly, their oaths are not hard to keep.
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If you think that this is an isolated incident, during the same time, policeman Ray Albers
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of the St. Anne Police Department was suspended after video came out of him pointing his semiautomatic
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service rifle at peaceful protesters and screaming shit at them like, quote, I will fucking kill
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you.
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Oh, man.
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What?
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There's a fascist in the police officer?
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Very strange.
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Come on.
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Strange behavior.
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Come on.
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Also-
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Where would you even find those guys?
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Also, policeman Matthew Papert, who was on patrol during the Ferguson protests, would
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end up being suspended for posting stuff on Facebook like, quote, these protesters should
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have been put down like a rabid dog the first night, and, quote, where is a Muslim with
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a backpack when you need him?
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I guess that's subtromuslim?
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It does indicate that he thinks they have utility.
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I mean, hey, at least he's one for two in that statement.
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Also everybody talks about, and rightfully so, I don't think it's wrong to talk about
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the issue of Michael Brown, but it would be really remiss to not point out that during
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the period between Michael Brown's murder and the acquittal of Darren Wilson, many other
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unarmed black men in St. Louis and the surrounding areas were murdered by the police.
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Not just to name a few, Kajemi Powell and Von Derret Myers Jr. were both two unarmed
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men, Myers actually had a sandwich in his hand, so that could be seen as pretty terrible.
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So I mean, and there's a long, long history in Ferguson that goes back beyond this.
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I believe the dollop did a great episode covering that, so if you want to learn more about that,
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check that out.
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So there's this, there's a much more in-depth situation going on there, and his idea of
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these poor oath keepers trying to protect a business and...
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Do we need 49-year-old white men?
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Are we?
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That situation worked itself out in some ways.
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I mean, I don't mean to belittle the danger of that, like he could have really killed
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a lot of people.
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He was motivated in a very negative direction.
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We're talking about the, we're back to McWilliams, but that, that, you know...
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Yeah, the answer is no.
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The answer is honestly no.
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There's no, look, I'm not, I'm not saying that there should be some sort of government
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final solution on white men over the age of 40.
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I'm not saying that that's a good idea.
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What I am saying is that there is no argument to the fact that we would be better off without
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them.
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I'm sorry, bro.
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There's no reasonable argument.
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I'm sorry, bro.
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This bit has been 86'd.
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All right.
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So, Alex, at this point...
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Well, clearly I'm going to stop doing it.
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Sure.
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This, at this point in the show, Alex has sort of made his point, and that is that he
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views literal white terrorism as being the same as black protest.
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Right.
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Which is interesting.
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It's not.
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It's not interesting.
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It's very expected from Alex.
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Yeah.
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But...
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Yeah, now that I'm there, I gotcha.
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I respect that he's been concise, because at this point it's not very far into the episode.
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It's maybe 10 minutes in, or something like that.
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Right, right, right.
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So he nailed it, and he can avoid it from here on out.
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So now he wants to try and approach from a different direction.
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So if he keeps talking about this, though, eventually he's going to be like, I'm really
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a big fan of this white terrorist, right?
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Like the more he talks about it, the more it's going to sneak through the little cracks
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in his rhetoric.
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Let's see.
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Globalist exploit, ISIS threat to empower UN, we're going to talk about the UN today.
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I want to tie Black Friday in to kind of the lottery picket mentality that I see in
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the culture out there.
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What if it was called White Friday?
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Would he be better?
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Would he be happier if it was called White Friday?
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Probably.
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Probably.
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I think he would be.
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So what do you think he's talking about?
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I'm going to try and tie in Black Friday.
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Okay.
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He's going to try and tie in Black Friday.
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That is so the globalists lower those prices so much to make sure that people will trample
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over each other and remain divided in order to keep us from fighting against the globalists.
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Interesting theory that the social engineers are using to great effect.
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Obama was a big lottery ticket to the Democrats.
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They thought they were going to get this big super deal putting him to office.
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Free gas, free cars, free homes.
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You've seen and heard the clips.
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Oh, thank you, Mr. President.
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I don't have to worry about my gas, my car, my home.
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It'll all be free.
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And he said, that's right.
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That's right.
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You're going to get that.
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Good impression.
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Wouldn't say, sorry, we can't take from somebody and give to you to that level.
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So we're going to tie that into Black Friday because here's the deal.
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We have the articles up on infoawards.com and prisonplanted.com, but anybody can just
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search the term Black Friday as a fraud.
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And you'll get mainline news admitting it's some of the worst deals of the year.
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Wait, what?
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Wait, hold on.
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Are we now pivoting to shopping tips?
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Because I think we are.
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He does 10 minutes.
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He does 10 minutes talking about this shooting and then pivots to Black Friday as an inside
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job.
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All right.
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All right.
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All right.
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All right.
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So yeah.
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If you look at terrorism, it's Ferguson's fault, essentially.
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Black Friday, obviously he's just associating whatever it is that's on his mind.
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If it was Christmas, he would have been like commercializing Christmas.
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If it was the Easter, he would have been like, we've got our Easter sales.
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Like he would have just done whatever is regional or like, it's like the date.
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He's just mad because he had to go shopping the other day, you know, or whatever.
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You have to go get gifts for his kids and he's pissed off about it.
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Right.
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Well, he doesn't like buying things for other people.
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But it does end up being like a five minute rant on the show.
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It goes on quite a while.
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About Black Friday.
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Yeah.
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Okay.
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When the state cuts off sales tax, that is, you can believe that's a good day to go shopping.
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Black Friday is white terrorism.
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So that makes sense.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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That makes sense.
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For stuff you need.
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And I'm not against commerce and in sales.
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That's what a vibrant economy has.
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I'm not against consumerism for quality, but mindless consumerism, I'm totally against.
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That's what Black Friday is as a merchant, as someone that sells and develops products
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very successfully.
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I know what specials and deals are and Black Friday is always very upsetting because the
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scan with Walmart and Target and the rest of them is they raise the prices the week
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before.
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They drop them that day.
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And you don't get a discount.
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We don't do that.
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And info wars, life.com enforced store.com, whether it's books, t-shirts, high quality
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supplements, water filters, dad pivot, baby.
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The whole thing is an ad pivot.
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That's pretty impressive.
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That is the Chutes and Ladders performance of a lifetime.
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Realistically.
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To get from white terrorism to Ferguson is bad, but not in the way you think it's bad
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against white people.
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But I don't think that hinged.
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And then to Black Friday.
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I think that those are two standalone pivots, because you've got the pivot from white terrorism
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to Ferguson and then you've got the pivot from Black Friday's an inside job to, hey,
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we love selling things.
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It's not that he's against consumerism.
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He loves it.
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He's against consumerism, just the mindless type.
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He likes people who are consumerist for quality.
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Thoughtful consumerism.
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Absolutely.
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You've got to think about it before you buy.
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Right.
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What?
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I don't know.
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I love imaginary rules that just pop up.
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OK.
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No.
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This behavior that I ostensibly condemn, yes, it is still terrible, but not the way I do
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it.
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Look.
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OK.
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So the Bible is all about those, like, don't lie, but not the way I lie, the way you lie.
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Not if you're a smooth liar.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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It's those white lies.
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You know, that's no big deal.
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White, white means good lies, good lies.
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Also, generally, sales are determined based off MSRP, not off what the price was last
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week.
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I know.
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But it's a good way to make people scared of merchants.
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As two people who put out quality products.
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So many.
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Like that one button we made.
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We have two shirts.
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I mean, two.
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We have two physically two shirts.
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Yes.
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Yeah.
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What else do we got?
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Also, those shirts were not made or no, they were they were a gift made by a wonderful,
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wonderful man.
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Yeah.
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That's not commerce.
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Yeah.
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We're bad at that.
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That could be interstate commerce.
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I did send my shirt to Texas.
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Did we barter?
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No.
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But guys, I don't know.
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Let's just jump to this next clip.
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Let's do it.
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He has now successfully done this Carrie Strug level gymnastics.
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I was about to go.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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Well done.
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Kind of.
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I was going to go with acrobatic, but nice.
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Just amazing.
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Yeah.
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Work of art.
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Yeah.
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Add pivot.
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And now he gets back to the main issue at hand, which is, of course, this shooting that
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happened in Austin because he lives in Austin.
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It's his responsibility to talk about it.
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But you'll see over and over again as we go through the episode, he can't talk about it
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without bringing up Ferguson.
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It's the only thing that he can do.
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I'm going to really get serious and get focused here because to me, the guy that shot up the
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police station and the Mexican consulate, the federal building is really no different.
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The white guy, quite than the predominantly black people led by democratic party operatives
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on record calling for the violence, communist groups and others to go out and burn down
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black neighborhoods in protest.
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And then if you're against burning down a black neighborhood in protest, whether you're
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right or wrong, I think Mr. Brown's the wrong guy to protest about.
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I think he's a thug from the evidence and the cop told the truth.
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But even while trying to decry the Democratic Party's co-option of these peaceful protests
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and turning them into a racist attack meant to divide us.
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Even though, even in the middle of doing that, he's still got to be racist as fuck.
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Now might not just got to do it now might not be the time to show you this silver dollars
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at cost for seventy two dollars.
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Holy shit.
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Oh no.
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That is an amazing deal.
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This is only gets back from my resources.
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No, this is a copy of Infos magazine that so kindly got for us by listener Keegan.
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Look at the cover of that bitch.
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Great.
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All right.
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Mm hmm.
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So.
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Mm hmm.
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All right.
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For everyone watching out there, this is the cover of the Infos magazine.
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It's got George Zimmerman and Trayvon Martin as a half and half of the same face with the
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words divide and conquer under it, as if to suggest that murderer and victim are the same.
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Right.
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Which is kind of like I mean, this is his this is where he's at.
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But he's not like this when the white person is the victim.
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He's never like that.
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Wait, what?
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Like Katie Steinle.
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He's made a cottage industry out of demonizing immigrants because of this accidental death
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of of a white woman at the pains me to say at the hands of a Mexican gentleman.
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Right.
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Because it was an errant shot that accidentally went off and bounced off the concrete and
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hit her.
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It was there's no intention there.
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So like this is what I mean.
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This is just it's hard to take him at all seriously.
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You know what I mean?
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I mean, you when you're saying that Michael Brown is a thug and you think that the police
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didn't lie and he acted responsibly.
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I know where you're coming from, bro, and it's the same place probably.
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Where would he be coming from?
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As McQuilliams.
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No, no, no, no.
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It's evidence based.
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Right.
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Evidence.
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Like he saw the video.
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Evidentiary.
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No other way to take it.
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Yeah.
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Oh, boy.
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So that's why my favorite articles to read are ones written by people who are like, we
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need to understand these people.
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They don't like being called racists because racist is a bad word.
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Right.
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And you're like, oh, oh, no.
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Are they?
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How could you prove it?
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How could you prove this racism?
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They don't like that label, Dan.
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You can't tell them that they're racist.
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It's so offensive.
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I don't.
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I wouldn't like it either.
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Go fuck yourself.
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I don't like the label cross-eye either, but guess what?
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The shoe fits.
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And that's not even something I did that I'm choosing to do.
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People like Alex Jones, you got to wear that racist label, buddy.
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Look, if that's what you want to do, then you just own it.
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If you want to put out a magazine with that cover.
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Yeah.
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Then just call yourself a white nationalist magazine.
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Yeah, why not?
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Yeah.
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You love Ron Paul already.
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You love, they love white nationalists.
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Just join in.
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And at this point with Alex's dwindling numbers all across the board, his best bet is to just
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push all his chips into the white nationalist corner, you know?
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Like he's not going to have, yeah, he's not going to have crossover appeal at any point
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in time anymore.
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Now, also something we went over in the last episode in the last year, Alex Jones, if you
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go to Alexa.com, the internet statistic ranking site, he has dropped in the last year 1,000
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ranks in terms of his position as a website.
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They're expanding, though.
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He went from 3,000, 3,200 or so, 3,200 most popular, to 4,100 in the last year.
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That's uncanny.
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That's a terrible drop.
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It's a weird time for that.
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Yeah, so he should just double down and just go to fucking...
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We're going to, he's going to wind up gaining listeners.
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Yeah, instead he just loses listeners on both ends.
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He loses normal people and then he loses the actual hardcore bigots because they're like,
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you're not hardcore enough.
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Exactly, exactly.
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I'm going to David Duke.
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Right.
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And it would also make our job very different because then finally everybody in the right-wing
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watch-a-sphere will be like, oh, we can just discount him.
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He's a white nationalist.
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Fuck off.
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Maybe.
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So, Alex, I would like to tell you now at this point why he's always right about everything.
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Because of his sources...
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Welcome back, my friends.
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The reason I have what a lot of folks call an uncanny grasp on events and predictions
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is really no secret at all.
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Those that don't know history are doomed to repeat it, and I have studied history.
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So I have been able to gleam that most of his understanding from history...
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You said gleam?
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Gleam.
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Okay.
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I just want to double check.
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I might have accidentally said gleam.
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No, I just always have a...
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I might have.
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Like, I have a weird thing about those, like, you just get just a little bit wrong, like
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take it for granted.
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Granted, instead of granted?
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Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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I accept...
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This is a weird thing.
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I might do that myself all the time.
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I accept the possibility.
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I might have said gleam.
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But...
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Have you always said gleam though?
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No.
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I've gleamed the idea...
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Because you may be one of the fae folk who use gleams to mask their...
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The cube?
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Pointy ears?
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The gleam the cube?
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No.
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Gleam the cube?
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They're fae.
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They're fairies.
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I don't care.
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I'm going to leave you hanging, enjoy it.
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So I've deduced.
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Got some fun with that one?
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I'm enjoying myself immensely.
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So I've figured out that most of Alex Jones's history, understanding, he says that he's
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read 90 books about Nazis and all these books about the Civil War.
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Most of it actually just comes from, like, none dare call it conspiracy and Nazi propaganda,
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as demonstrated by this next clip.
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The American Revolution became the model of freedom worldwide, not because we were perfect,
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not because we didn't have some problems, but because markedly after the seven-year
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war that started in 1776 and the final ratification years later in 1798 of the Bill of Rights
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it created the greatest level of freedom comparatively in the time they were living that anyone ever
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seen in the world.
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And so America became the revolutionary idea, and in British newspapers and in Russian newspapers
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and Japanese newspapers the elites openly bemoaned the American system, they called
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it, and the model by the 1830s saying, we can't compete with people getting to keep
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90% of their money, we can't compete with low regulations, we can't compete without
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a class system, we need monopolies, we need to finance powerful combines in the U.S. to
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take it over.
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You see the rise of J.P. Morgan, the Rockefellers, all financed by the Dutch royal family, the
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British royal family, and by the Rothschilds.
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I mean, go look it up, that's mainline history.
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The robber barons, the Rothschilds, all of it.
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They were regulated.
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The Rothschilds in Europe if they wanted your country, they would just finance some nearby
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dictator to invade you, and they didn't care if they lost because they would finance the
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other opposition.
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Okay.
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Right, so I think the problem is clear, and that is people having too much wealth, so
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we should do something about that, right?
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There's another problem, and that is like all that's based on pseudo-history and lore
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that he so accurately has declared that's what he believes in.
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A lot of that history does come from his non-dare-call it conspiracy world, which we'll be dealing
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with in great detail shortly.
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Wasn't the Haitian revolution well before the United States?
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It wasn't the model.
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Well, that's because everybody was free at the end of it.
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Not a good model.
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Terrible model.
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That's right.
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It was a bad model.
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I apologize.
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If you want the greatest amount of freedom that will get coverage in Japanese newspapers-
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Pre-Meiji restoration Japanese newspapers.
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You need to have complete freedom.
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Right, right.
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You need to have almost selective freedom.
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I can't imagine for whom.
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Right.
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That's a little bit... That's another indication to me that I'm like, maybe you don't have
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a great grasp on history.
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Maybe you don't.
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No, he's read 60 books that are filled with lies.
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I would say that it is uncanny.
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I would say that.
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So at this point, Alex Jones wants to ask, this is the guiding question of the show.
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Were he to be a not lunatic person?
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If he were not to be.
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Right.
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If that were to tour the case, he would open up the phone lines and have a reason to be
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in a reasonable conversation about this.
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Right.
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But as soon as I heard him ask this guiding question, I said to myself, in no goddamn
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way he's answering that question.
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Okay, let's hear it.
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What is legitimate rebellion?
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What is legitimate revolution?
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Long pause.
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And I think we should have this topic all throughout the week, not just on this Sunday
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show.
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Because this is such a big issue.
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Sure, sure.
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You're not going to cover this at all.
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I'm going to guess in your next episode you're not going to cover it either.
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What is legitimate revolution, Dan?
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I feel like it's the Supreme Court definition of pornography.
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I know it when I see it.
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I take everything on a case-by-case basis.
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Okay.
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There's a lot of circumstantial stuff cross-culturally that maybe applies to us, doesn't apply to
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other folk in terms of the historical basis of our society.
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What's your favorite revolution?
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Probably the revolution of the Japanese newspaper system, circa 1794.
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Oh man, I remember that.
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No, my favorite, that was an amazing musical.
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It was called The Japanese Newsies, right?
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Yeah, absolutely.
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Yeah, yeah, it was great.
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Japanoozies.
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That sounds iffy.
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That sounds not good.
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It's a portmanteau, but it doesn't feel good.
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Doesn't feel good coming out of your mouth.
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I almost said it, and I was like, I don't think I will.
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I could defend it in a court of law.
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I think so too.
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I think so too.
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That's where I put on trial.
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I would gleam all the information from that.
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What's a legitimate rebellion to you, boxer?
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I'm actually going to go with whiskey.
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All right.
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I'm going to go with the whiskey rebellion.
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I felt like that one was pretty good.
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I'm fine with it.
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I don't know.
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I also think that my standard for what a legitimate rebellion is probably falls drastically lower
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than Alex's.
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Yeah.
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I believe that, like, I think that it's hard to say what, like, it's very complicated because
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later in this episode, I didn't keep it in because Alex doesn't respond to his caller
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who says it.
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Yeah.
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Otherwise, if he had responded in any way, I would have kept this clip in, but he does
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ask a caller what's a legitimate reason, like, what's a final straw for you?
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Yeah.
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And the caller says, if I see the government rounding people up, then it's time.
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That's the final straw.
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Oh, so now he's finally doing it.
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Now he has decided that it is the final straw.
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2017, when the immigration policy was enacted, he saw that the government was rounding people
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up and he decided that was my breaking point.
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And so he has absolutely, I'm sure, confirmed that he will...
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Stop doing this because I don't know who this caller was.
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I'm not worried about it.
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And that's the reason why I didn't keep it in.
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It's because it's the caller saying it and Alex just moves on to another topic after
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the caller says that.
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Right.
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If Alex had said, yes, absolutely, that is a line in the sand, I would have kept it in
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and been like, hey, look at this dick hole.
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Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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But since he didn't respond, I don't want to put his caller's words on him.
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Although I would assume that back then he would say that that's a principle of his because
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he flies about FEMA camps all the time.
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But here's the...
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You would think that.
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Here's the other thing.
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I do.
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We know, though, what we are aware of now is that that is not our threshold for revolution.
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Turns out it's not.
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Yeah.
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Turns out that if the government is rounding up people, like for me, I would love, I would
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love, it should be, we should be revolutioning.
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The government is rounding up people, separating them from their families.
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The fucking police are murdering people.
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All of our institutions are fucking destroyed.
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They are left in shambles.
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This is perfect revolution time.
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This is when we should be revolutioning.
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And it turns out that I'm too much of a pussy.
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I'm waiting for other people to revolution.
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I want to join in, but I'm not going to be the guy to throw the first fucking stone.
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It's pathetic.
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I hate myself for this.
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It's a complicated thing and I don't, I don't...
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Right?
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Yeah.
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But the reason that I don't, I don't agree with you and I feel kind of shitty that I
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don't agree with you is that I still don't think that that's the right way to deal with
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it.
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Right.
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I still think that what you're going to end up doing in that case is making things worse
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for the people who are marginalized.
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Right.
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We're going to be French revolutioning.
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Well, I think...
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And that's an unfortunate...
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I think if you have...
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We would get to behead some rich people.
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You and I are what I would describe as, even though we're, especially me, pretty damn poor,
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fairly bougie white young males, I don't think that we are in a very troubled position.
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No, of course not.
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So if we were to go and let's say try and organize or go weathermen on people's asses
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and blow up an unoccupied building or something like that in an attempt to bring awareness
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to the plight of people who are being victimized by ICE, there's a really decent chance that
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all that would end up happening is radicalizing more people in ICE and making the situation
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way worse.
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I don't know what the right solution is.
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I don't begrudge people who think that we've got to get hurrah or whatever, but I don't...
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I don't know.
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I still think the courts conceivably are the right way to go about things.
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No, I think we're fucked on the courts.
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You might be able to turn things around.
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I think we're fucked on the courts.
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I think my feelings are a general strike.
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It's just we're not trying to overthrow the government, we're saying you're fucking up
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so much, we're going to fuck up your shit.
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We're finally going to fuck up your shit.
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Well, because that would be sort of a larger scale version of blocking traffic, slowing
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down the city.
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I don't know.
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I think that's...
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Look, if rich people are going to control the government, then fuck rich people, we're
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going to fuck with your bottom line, I guess.
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I don't know.
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I think there's a good in-between, and I just...
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I don't know.
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I don't know.
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I don't either.
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Anyways, let's start one.
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So at this point, Alex has something that I love so much, and that is a shot and a chaser
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here on this.
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Here's the shot where Alex is getting petty coming in from a commercial break.
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Infowars, powered by truth.
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All right, ladies and gentlemen.
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You may have heard that before.
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I've been saying it about 15 years, another talk show host now uses that term, which is
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fine with me.
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It's just that when people then rip off what you're doing, then people think you're ripping
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them off.
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So you got to say, no, I've been saying infowars.com is powered by truth since 1996.
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Powered by truth, infowars.com.
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So that's the shot.
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You take that little bit of tequila, and here comes that lime.
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Here is Time Magazine on Friday.
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Good work.
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I just ripped off Rush Limbaugh right there.
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Ferguson in def- I always love that.
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That's got the article right here.
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So two minutes later, he jostles some papers like, oh, I just ripped off Rush Limbaugh
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by jostling paper around after he's complaining about someone ripping him off saying powered
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by truth.
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I Googled it.
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I couldn't figure out.
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I couldn't figure out Glenn Beck, but I couldn't figure out who he was talking about who said
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they were powered by truth.
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Yeah.
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Probably was a one off.
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You know what, it might not be a good idea to say powered by truth because that kind
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of suggests the same way that things are powered by gasoline insofar as you burn it and transform
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it into something that is destroying the planet.
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So he's got that paper.
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He's ripping off Rush.
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Shaking it.
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He's ripping off Rush.
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Doing some great Foley work.
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I'm sure he's done before this, but I like to imagine that this is the canonical beginning
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of the paper.
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Okay.
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All right.
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It's not.
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But so here we go.
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Let's get to these headlines.
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That's got the article right here.
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Yep.
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Ferguson in defense of rioting by Darlena Kunha.
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The way he says that name is, it's not what the name sounds like, but even like no matter
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what, there's a racism in the way he says that name, like as if it's a question, you
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know?
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Is it C-U-N-H-A?
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C-U-H-N-A, I believe.
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So like Kunha or?
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Kunha is probably the correct pronunciation.
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I'm not saying that that's not the right pronunciation.
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It's the way he was like, what?
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Is this a name?
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In the same way that he says white and it makes you feel uncomfortable.
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Yes, 100%.
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Kunha is a yeah, no thanks.
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Hard pass.
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And she goes on to just say it's wonderful, basically.
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Okay.
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Here's another one.
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Time magazine columnist, violent riots necessary, close quote.
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Bunch of other garbage.
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I'm not going to.
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Here's one out of CNN.
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CNN is lying when they say Ferguson protests were quote peaceful.
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We have the video clip.
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I mean, I'm just going to vomit.
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Those aren't articles from CNN or any new articles.
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That's just Infowars coverage of other articles.
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So now back to this Time magazine article that Alex is saying goes on to just say violent
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rioting is wonderful.
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And she's for it.
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Also that's great analysis right there.
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Right.
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I mean, you'd expect him to actually get into the arguments, the nuance of it instead of
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just misrepresenting the headline and then lying about what's in the body of it.
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It's actually, you know what, we could just do that.
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Like in reality, all we would be like, look, this Infowars clip.
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I mean, basically all he says is he's racist.
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Well, I mean, that might be accurate.
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That's what I'm saying.
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So here's from this article because Alex doesn't want to get into it.
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Let's uh, let's discuss it a little, uh, quote when a police officer shoots a young unarmed
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black man in the streets, then does not face indictment and murders, murders.
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Let's not say shoots.
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I'm just reading the text on the, I know, I know you're quoting it.
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Anger in the community is inevitable.
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It's what we do with that anger that counts in such a case is rioting so wrong.
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Riots are a necessary part of the evolution of society.
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Unfortunately, we do not live in a universal utopia where people have the basic human rights
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they deserve simply for existing.
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Until we get there, the legitimate frustration, sorrow, and pain of the marginalized places
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will boil over, spelling out into our streets as quote normal citizens watch the events
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of Ferguson unfurl on their television screens and Twitter feeds.
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There's a lot of head shaking, finger pointing and privileged explanation going on.
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We wish to seclude the incident and the people involved to separate it from our history as
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a nation to dehumanize the change agents because of their bad and sometimes violent decisions.
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Because if we can separate the underlying racial tensions that clearly exist in our
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country from the looting and the rioting of select individuals, we can continue to ignore
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the problem.
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I would put forth that peaceful protesting is a luxury of those already in mainstream
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culture.
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We can be assured their voices will be heard without violence.
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Those who can afford to wait for the change they want.
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I risk sounding racist, but if this was a white kid, there would be no riot.
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Another person wrote on the Tea Party page, history shows us that blacks in this country
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are more apt to riot than any other population.
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They are stirred up by racist black people and set out to cause problems.
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End of story.
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So that's a post that she is referencing from a Tea Party page.
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Sounds a lot like Alex.
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Yup.
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Blacks in this country are more apt to riot because they are one of the populations here
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who still need to.
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In the case of the 1992 riots about Rodney King, 30 years of black people trying to talk
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about their struggles of racial profiling and muted, but still vastly unfair treatment
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came to a boil.
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Sometimes enough is simply too much.
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And after that catalyst event, the landscape of Southern California changed and nationally
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police forces take note.
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At no point in the article does she say that violent rioting is good or that rioting is
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good.
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It just goes to discuss the underlying causes and what's going on here, the conversation
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that Alex Jones is unwilling to engage in.
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She explains why it is a reasonable thought.
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It is not an irrational thought.
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It would be irrational if white people rioted over anything, really.
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That's an irrational thought.
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If you've been oppressed for always, if you are being murdered by the cops who are ostensibly
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there to protect you, it's time to riot.
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It's not that I'm advocating it.
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That's a totally reasonable thought.
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It's another thing, too, I think, if it wasn't after... I mean, if it was ever... The other
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thing is we have to even take this away from it being a riot riot.
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You know?
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Right.
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It wasn't even that.
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Right.
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Also, you also have to add in the fact that these same things, the same things they are
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saying now about how this isn't the right way to do it and all that bullshit, they said
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about Colin Kaepernick kneeling.
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It doesn't matter how severe it gets.
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No.
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What does it matter if you riot if they're going to say the same thing if you peacefully
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protest?
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Yeah.
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The bottom line is always sit down.
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Yeah.
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Exactly.
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Just sit down, shut up.
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Hey, wait your turn.
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Right.
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Right.
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So I read that because I think it's important, and I don't know if everybody has read that
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article or will go read it, I think some of that is important, to know that this is the
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article that Alex refuses to read and is misrepresenting in service of trying to tie the situation
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in Ferguson to this dumb dumb white supremacist who tried to set fire to the Mexican consulate
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at two in the morning and was not drunk, had a serious legit plan, had his guns, had a
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getaway car, he had laid out his funeral clothes at home with a note, he'd left a bag of food
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for his pets on his neighbor's door that said, you know, you can tell the FBI you didn't
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know anything, no one knows about this.
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Great.
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Like that sort of shit.
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Great.
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So like he had his bases covered.
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Right.
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Like this guy, this was not like a, I'm drunk at two in the morning, I'm going to set the
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Mexican consulate on fire because, I don't know, I don't like X, Y, or Z.
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Mexico.
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Right.
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Yeah.
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And at one point in the show, Alex has proffered the question earlier, he's presented, what
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is the time?
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What is a legitimate revolution?
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Yes.
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And he gives a pretty narrow version of that.
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I believe it's actually a minor increase in tariffs on T. That's the correct time to...
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No, he gives a pretty opposite answer that is very narrow.
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Okay.
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When is it legitimate to get violent?
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Well I'll tell you when it is.
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Tuesday.
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When you start an attack, and let's say you're a Ukrainian in 1935, and the Leninists are
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raping your wives, taking you to slave labor camps, disappearing people, they're invading
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your country, they're dragging you away, it's clearly tyranny, you've got a right to defend
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yourself.
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Nazi Germany, 1943, somebody's coming down to the basement where you're hiding to take
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you to a concentration camp, you have a right to defend yourself.
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This is 2014, right?
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Yes.
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So say you're a Ukrainian, 70 years in the past, say you're a Ukrainian, perhaps in your
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present.
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Oh no, no, he's...
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No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no.
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In your current existence.
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No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no.
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Alex is totally...
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Why did he pick Ukrainian then?
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Because...
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Because there's only one other reason to have Ukraine on your mind.
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He's totally cool with that.
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I know he's totally cool with that, that's why it's weird to me that he picked Ukraine
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specifically.
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Of course.
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Also, by the way, because we're doing 2018 is Soros Watch 18.
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Right.
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Because we're right on time.
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As of November 30th, 2014...
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No Soros?
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Soros is in play.
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Oh, he is in play?
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Yes.
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100%.
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He's one of the villains.
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Okay.
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He's one of the big, big, bad guys.
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So somewhere between 2009 and 2014.
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Mm-hmm.
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Gotcha.
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Which unfortunately does not narrow anything down in terms of my suspicions.
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Not a lot.
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Because those are the two years that are of interest.
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But at least we know it's by 2014.
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Anyway, I would say that this next clip is redundant perhaps, but let's listen to it
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anyway.
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This guy was white, white.
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What's his name?
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49-year-old Larry Steven McWilliams.
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Now, I'm not gonna get accused of being anti-white because I support the police killing him when
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he's trying to kill people.
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No!
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It's pointless protest.
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It's mindless to just go out and start shooting things up.
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That's gonna get us into a civil war, not fix things.
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Whether it's Ferguson or Austin, black or white, it's bad.
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Well, that's only if you think these two things are the same thing.
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It's only if you think they're the same thing.
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And they're not.
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No.
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I mean, in both cases, it is bad for a white person to start murdering people, even though
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in this case, they did not murder.
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Right.
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Even though in this case, it was not the cops.
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They certainly could.
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Murdering.
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Oh, God.
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So, in this next clip, Alex reads a news report of - I don't know if I put enough of a point
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on that last clip.
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The reason I put - I had it in there was, again, just to reinforce that he can't deal
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with this without changing the goalposts, you know, moving it down.
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No.
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Because he's a fan.
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Yeah.
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He's a fan.
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So -
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He likes this guy.
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He kind of does.
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And I actually have a fucking damning thing to bring up at the end of this.
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Of course he does.
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But in order for Alex to cover the news about this, even, he kind of has to treat it like
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it's a joke.
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And you'll see what I mean immediately.
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A white middle-aged gunman - can you imagine if it was a black guy, they wouldn't even
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say that.
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Immediately.
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He works.
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A white middle-aged gunman in what appears to be a politically motivated anti-government
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attack against immigration fired more than 100 rounds at buildings in downtown Austin
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early Friday and tried to set fire to the Mexican consulate before he died of a gunshot
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wound.
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He has to put on a mocking voice just to read the news.
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Yeah, what the fuck is that?
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That's insane.
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That's insane.
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And the things that he's saying are legitimately horrifying.
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He shot over 100 rounds at these buildings.
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That's not cool.
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No.
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That's not good.
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I mean -
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Oh, the white supremacists have enslaved black people for hundreds of years.
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Like what are you doing starting a civil war?
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Oh, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no.
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Ooh, you guys think it's so bad to be enslaved.
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Well, no, no, no, no.
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This is about tariffs.
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Fuck off.
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Fuck off.
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So, of course, we know that lying just below the surface of all this is natural fear about
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the Second Amendment.
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Of course.
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We do not have guns.
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It's interesting that that doesn't come up as much as I would have expected in this
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episode.
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You would have thought that he would have talked more about how he's mentally ill.
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It's not that he's got access to guns.
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That's no problem.
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Or, I mean, of course, it's sort of like the idea is in place that this is like it's
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fake.
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And shit like that, it's like a false flag kind of thing.
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Of course.
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Like that's always in play.
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There's always there.
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It's always in play.
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Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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But I would have thought that there would be more fears about the Second Amendment than
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there actually are.
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Because of this white guy doing it, they're going to come after your gun.
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Exactly.
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Yeah.
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And that's what the globalists want.
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So they're pushing him out.
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That's why they always put white people out there.
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So there's less of that than I expected, but it does crop up and here we see it.
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And their plan to try to get the Second Amendment.
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What's their plan?
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They, again.
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What's their plan?
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Globalists.
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Okay.
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Is to hype events like this to get other unstable people out of 200 million gun owners roughly
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now, gun owners are just taking over the country, lowering crime everywhere we are.
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How do they plan to stop it?
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With TV shows and dramas and movies where crazy people go, instead of committing suicide,
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you go shoot a police station.
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Right.
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It's like death by cops, suicide by cops.
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They are hyping this to try to create a chain reaction.
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And you notice how long I've been warning of this because I could see the program.
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Or you hung out with a bunch of weirdos who wanted to shoot up police stations.
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Or your biggest fans want to shoot up police stations.
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Or you go and do speaking engagements and people keep coming up to you and saying, let's
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go blow up a police building.
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Or you say, or you say specifically, sometimes it's a good idea to blow up the police.
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Or your entire career is largely built on denying that a guy who blew up a federal building
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actually did it.
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I don't know if he did or not.
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What like what's next?
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He killed RFK?
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That's crazy.
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I have a flag and all I need to do is say Elohim City.
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All of a sudden I have an argument.
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Come on.
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I've got an argument.
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Think about Ferguson.
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Elohim City.
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Yeah.
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That's where Ferguson actually went.
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That was the original name.
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Totally.
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Yep.
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Makes perfect sense.
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So, you know, this is just real standard shit.
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So at this point, Alex, where are we going?
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This clip's weird.
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It's weird.
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Where are we going with this?
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It's really weird.
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Do you understand that the police are the second most awake group?
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I've done an analysis of it.
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White supremacist?
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Real quick.
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White supremacist.
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Who's the first most white supremacist?
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What?
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The army?
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It might be.
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It might be the army is number one.
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He doesn't specify, but also I want to know what awake means.
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I know that he probably means aware of the globalists or something like that.
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Conceivably there's parallel.
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White supremacist.
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But so the police are the second most awake group.
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I want to know what number one is.
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Also I want to know what number three is and number four.
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You know what's crazy?
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Number three, Elks Club.
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Could be.
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Shriners.
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Shriners.
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Absolutely.
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I would like to see...
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All marching bands.
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I would like to see his write up.
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I'd like to see his hypothesis.
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What's the math?
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Where's the graph?
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I'd love to see that.
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I'd love to see his data on this.
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Yeah.
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He's got to have an XL.
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I'd really, really love just to be able to go over this, peer review it, get to the bottom
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of exactly what his...
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Is this an online poll?
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I mean, he dropped out of junior college, so I assume that he's not big on the scientific
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method.
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Definitely not.
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But I don't know.
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Well, he's based his entire life on none dare call it a conspiracy, so the scientific method
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isn't really...
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It shows that he's not a literature or history major.
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Frankly, reality is not part of his calculus there.
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Not a reality major.
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And I've seen the polls.
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The system is so God awful scared of the police, it ought to make your head spin, ladies and
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gentlemen.
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We are so close to saving the country.
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And they want to overturn the chessboard because we're winning and start a civil war with stage
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terror attacks to blame the liberty movement.
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And they're worried that we're watching, so they won't pull those off.
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So they're going to try to hype it to get mentally ill people to go out and do stuff
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to create a climate of fear.
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Statistically so far, extremely low chance of a patriot shooting cops.
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Statistically, very low chance of some black inner city person burning down a building.
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But the media is trying to hype it like it's all imminent.
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We need to de-escalate all this, settle down, realize what's really happening.
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So there's a lot of interesting stuff going on there at the end.
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Alex saying that the odds of a patriot shooting a cop being really low is cockamamie.
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Just do any looking into sovereign citizens and find out how often they shoot a cop because
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they believe they have the right to travel on roads without a license and then get really
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upset because the king's men are coming and they don't recognize the authority of admiralty
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police officers.
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So what I find really interesting there is that he's like, the odds of a patriot shooting
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a cop are super low.
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The odds of a black guy burning a building in his neighborhood are super low.
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They're being lied to about this stuff.
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Right.
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It's the reverse.
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So what he's done is he's linked.
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The odds are that a white person is going to burn down a building and a black person
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is going to shoot a cop.
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Well, that's the only conclusion to draw from that sentence.
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No.
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He's making a direct, like, this is the incorrect comparison for both of these.
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Not even that.
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A white person is most likely to do both of those.
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That's true.
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That's absolutely true.
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If you count like the sovereign citizens, the free men on the land and all those types
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of weird patriot militia types who are real, real against people having authority.
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But nonkers crazy.
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They shoot most of the cops, quite frankly.
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And then you get into like, you're right, those black people aren't the ones who are
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setting fire to their buildings.
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You see like all of the indications of the agent provocateurs that were on the scene
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in Ferguson and like police who had infiltrated protest groups and stuff like that.
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Yeah, they're great.
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You know, you get those sorts of indications, you're like, eh, maybe it's...
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My favorite argument there is because we're watching, they can't false flag these anymore.
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They can't engineer them.
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Right, he does that a lot.
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Right.
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We're watching them too closely.
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He says that a lot.
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And then yet false flags keep happening.
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So, no, no, no.
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But with this one, he's saying because it was real, they hype it up like it happens
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all the time.
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Oh, yeah.
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So his argument is they can't do it themselves because we do it for them all the time.
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That is kind of part of the argument he's making, which isn't strong.
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That's not a good argument.
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It's not good.
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None of this is good.
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No.
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Now, in this next clip, we get what's really not good.
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What's that?
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Is this reported man in Austin, Friday morning at 2.20 in the morning, 49-year-old Larry
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Steven McWilliams shot up the police department and the Mexican consulate and a bank and a
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federal building.
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And the media, I don't believe, but it could be true, you know, says he was basically mad
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about open borders.
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I don't think that's legitimate.
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I think that makes the law-abiding citizens that are against totally open borders and
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Obama acting as a dictator look illegitimate.
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He's a white guy, by the way.
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I'm not siding against him because he's white.
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Interesting that he keeps bringing that up and keep being weird about it.
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So the first of this reported man, I don't even know if he's real.
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I don't know if any of this happened.
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I don't trust the media.
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They're saying it's true.
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So I'm going to take it on face value.
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And they're saying that he was mad about open borders, which who knows about that?
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I mean, yeah, he shot up the Mexican consul and tried to set it on fire, set it on fire.
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But it does.
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That could be anything.
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That could be anything, Dan.
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You know who had a shockingly similar take on the situation to Alex Jones?
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Who?
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About the idea that this is just going to make people who are against open borders look
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bad.
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Can't imagine anybody.
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Stormfront.
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What?
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Why would they say that?
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Stormfront had identical talking points to Alex Jones.
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Here's one user named Volodomir, quote, I had a feeling that he was a white man.
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Is that like a portmanteau between Voldemort and Vladimir?
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That's possible.
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But no, there's too many Y's in it.
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It's probably some weird Norse thing.
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He who must not be...
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I don't know.
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I had a feeling that he was a white man and you could be sure that the hostile aliens
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who really control the country are going to use this against us.
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So that's one of them.
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That's one quote.
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Half cocked attacks on the part of an angry white man is a dream come true for any Jewish
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or darky gun grabber, an agent of genocide against whites, the putrid smell of Zionist
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or Mexican false flag against whites, and the U.S. Constitution hangs heavy in the air
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here.
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A guy named Father Odin chimed in.
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You know what that quote implies, though?
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That good attacks were done by us.
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Like you know they're half cocked because they were attributed to a white man.
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I think that's good.
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You know they're good if they're...
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I see what you're hanging on to there and I think that's...
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I'm just saying.
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Rhetorically that's a bad argument.
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No, no, no, no.
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That just suggests that...
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I think you're holding on to the wrong piece of it.
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Oh good, because I don't want to engage with him saying darky.
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It's not good.
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So this other guy said, quote, once the media picks up on this story we will once again
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hear nonstop about how all whites are racist, anti-government, violent threats to America.
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H-W-H-I-T-E.
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The overwhelming sense on a lot of their posts are that this is just a very convenient way
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to demonize people who don't... like immigration.
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So convenient.
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So convenient.
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It's like they can't find any other examples.
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It's like, come on guys, put together a list.
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Maybe put together a statistic of all of these crimes that have been committed and develop
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some sort of pattern.
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Come on, you guys can't do that.
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These are false flags.
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Okay, so when you do do that, I get it.
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But they're all false flags.
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Duh.
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Yeah.
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So that's once again not the wildest coincidence we've ever seen.
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Certainly seems to be something we see on a fairly regular basis that Alex Jones' rhetoric
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matches up with literal Nazis.
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Right supremacists who hide on their site.
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I don't know.
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We have one more clip left and this one will give you whiplash.
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Oh boy.
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They're the enemy.
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And that very enemy is pushing all this multiculturalism and infighting and rioting and all the rest
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of it because they want to wreck the society to have the feds come in as the saviors.
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We're getting some of your calls back up on the screen there.
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I'll go to you in a moment.
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I didn't want to just run a Black Friday or Cyber Monday special.
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I wanted to run the mother of all specials across the board.
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High quality colloidal silver that's creating antibiotic history.
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Great.
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All right.
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No, no, no, no, no, no.
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That was...
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We've been in 2009 too long, man.
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We haven't heard some good ad pivots.
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That was an ad pivot.
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We are back.
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That was good shit.
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The enemy is multiculturalism.
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2009, Alex had nothing.
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Nothing.
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Damn, was that a good ad pivot.
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The enemy is multiculturalism.
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Also the enemy is Black Friday, which is why I didn't just want to run a Black Friday special.
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Nah.
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Nah, no, no, no.
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I'm not about that mindless shit.
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This is a quality consumer special.
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You almost accidentally said equality there and that's absolutely what the info was about.
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Of course not.
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No.
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You know what's weird?
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He actually just bumped up the MSRP and it's the same fucking special that you've had the
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entire time.
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Weird.
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Oh, also it was brought to my attention, and this is interesting, FortifiedSupply.com doesn't
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exist anymore, Alex Jones' weird fake website that he was using and did not file the correct
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paperwork in order to run as a subsidiary that we called him out on.
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Now there's a new website that if you go to FortifiedSupply.com, it links to and forwards
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through to InfowarsDefense.com, which I have not yet actually figured out if that's a legal
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name for him to do business under, but I suspect it's also not.
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The one time we actually discover a crime, nobody pays attention and he just gets away
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with it.
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That's disappointing.
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Yep.
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Oh, well.
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I forgot whenever we discovered a crime and everybody was just like, eh, we prefer talking
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about when Anthony Bourdain does.
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Isn't it funny when Alex says something stupid?
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It is.
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He also commits crimes.
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Anyway.
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Anyway.
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This was a sad night for Austin and, you know, it could have been a lot worse and thankfully
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no one really got hurt except for this McWilliams guy.
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Right.
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And the pride of Mexico.
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Big shout out to Austin, Texas.
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We will be there on Friday.
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Very excited to go down and see the Mexican Consulate.
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Check out the remodel.
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Remember the Consulate actually is our rallied crime for all the policy walks out there.
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Remember the Consulate.
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I will play the part of Colonel Travis and I will hold down the fort at the Mexican Consulate.
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So yeah, we'll be there.
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You know what's crazy, I actually do have a group of, they were former Civil War guys,
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but now they're McWilliams re-enactors.
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We go down there once a year, we re-enact the whole thing.
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You got to try and shoot a horse.
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Yeah.
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That's part of it.
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Rough.
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That's going to be a weird day for everybody.
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So it will not be a weird day, it's Friday when we're there, it'll be a great time.
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Nice transition.
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We'll have a good day, good time.
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Fun show.
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Friday, Doors of Nine, 10pm, Beer Land.
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You guys have heard this a million times before.
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I don't know, we're bad at marketing.
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The show is going to be like legitimately, I've had a roadblock in terms of doing episodes
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this week because I'm so excited to talk about the episode that I've got for Friday.
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I'm so terrified and nervous.
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It's going to be the best.
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It's going to be incredible.
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So we'll see you all there.
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If you can't make it, we still love you and appreciate it.
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Our website is knowledgefight.com.
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You can find all sorts of information and past episodes and write-ups and stuff like
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that there.
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Especially stuff about fortified supply.
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No, well yeah, I'm on the non-existent website now.
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You can also follow us on Twitter at knowledge underscore fight.
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You can go to iTunes, you can leave a review.
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Please do.
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Also, yep, that's about it.
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That's pretty much it.
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That's all we got.
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Even though I was not heard last time, it is still your turn tonight.
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There's no one else on this episode.
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No, it's just Alex McWilliams and a caller that you refuse to play.
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All right.
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All right.
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You're going to have to take from the real world, Dan.
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The Ukraine in 1935.
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Wait, I thought they were the good guys.
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I don't know.
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It was just the first thing I saw when I looked at my screen.
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What's a bad revolution?
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What's a bad revolution?
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What's a bad revolution?
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Dance, dance.
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Go fuck yourself, dance, dance, revolution.
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Andy in Kansas, you're on the air.
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Thanks for holding.
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Hello, Alex, I'm a first time caller, I'm a huge fan.
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I love your work.
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I love you.
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