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Andy in Kansas, you're on the air. Thanks for holding

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Hello Alex, I'm a first name caller. I'm a huge fan. I love your work. I love you

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Hey everybody, welcome back to knowledge fight. I'm Dan

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I'm Jordan. We're a couple dudes like to sit around drink novelty beverages and talk a little bit about Alex Jones

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Absolutely, Dan. Oh boy. Is there a

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specific hook to this particular day that may be

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Unusual for the two of us

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Today yeah, cuz you might know a lot about a certain event and I don't know anything about a certain event an event

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I'll be goddamn WrestleMania. God damn it. Dan. Catch on. I do. I I do know a lot about WrestleMania

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You don't know anything about us see there you go, but more specifically this podcast

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I know a lot about Alex Jones and I don't know anything about it. So it's a very similar thing

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Something I want to get out of the way real fast before we get into my thoughts about WrestleMania because I have a ton

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I'd like to give a shout out to a new donor. What's going on out there? Someone who I think you'll like their name

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What's up out there Jordan? I'm a policy wonk

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Thank you so much for joining up with the team. I

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Got nothing. I got nothing. There aren't really any famous Jordans. You weren't gonna try and say it was you what about Jordan?

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Peel right key and peel isn't it Jordan peel?

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Oh, I think you're right. Yeah, he's famous as fuck. Yeah, he wrote one of the best horror movies of all time fine Jordan peel

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Thank you very much for donating the show. How about a goddamn tweet? Huh? Why?

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Why is it? I don't know any Jordan. Why is it, you know, you're in the other the other Jordan

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I know is the prophecy brother of mine. Oh, oh, that's true. The the the cult

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Yeah

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So speaking of cults people are in a wrestling cult and they hit their high church

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Yesterday as we're recording this Sunday for WrestleMania and boy, I'll tell you what, I think I'm done with wrestling and it's not

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It's not why was this one the back because it's not for the same reasons that a lot of people complain about it a lot

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of people like

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So the predictable blah blah blah everyone complains like that after all of the the big pay-per-views

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Okay, and for me it was just like I got to about hour four and I was like, I don't know why I'm watching this

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Well, I'm exhausted. I don't really enjoy it. Right. I don't know what's go

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I think you enjoy your non enjoyment of it to a certain extent

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I will say that I had a number of thoughts in my boredom that were troubling

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The first is that they don't do a great job

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What I'm telling you

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Do not say that the juice could be exterminated. I really think that's a bad thought to have during WrestleMania

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Well that actually comes into this a little bit

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I can't see how it could so within the first 10 minutes or so of the broadcast. They played a teaser

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There was a Nazi wrestler. Yeah

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boy, so they played a

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Like a teaser clip for the upcoming a Smackdown women's championship match between Charlotte and Oscar

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Right and they kept and this is something they do a lot. They keep referring to Charlotte as being bred for supremacy

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Oh, I don't like that. It makes me a bit of not good considering she's like a red six-foot something blonde

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Aryan goddess, okay. Well, well, I mean

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Valkyries, I got nothing for this one. I'm gonna go with the no

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I'm gonna go with a hard pass on this one and I grant that her dad is Ric Flair and that he used to be

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Involved with a group called evolution and there's some of these like I don't know what a group called evolution. Is he is he a

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A genetic birther kind of guy like the evolution of wrestling. We're the next evolution of it

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Oh, okay is related to them, but so thematically you're saying that there might be a defense, right?

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But it still doesn't feel good. No

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Fucking super tall beautiful blonde white woman who's bred for supremacy

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It's very that's not great. That's not great. So that's in the first

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Couple minutes named who's the lady in red Sonia though? She was married to flavor flavor something

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I don't know what you're talking about. You don't know. Oh, yeah

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Nielsen Brigitte Nielsen. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Okay

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I'm just naming Valkyries at this point. Mm-hmm. Yeah, so

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Who else you got on your top five Valkyrie list?

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I don't know but the other thing that made me uncomfortable and this is something that I I understand isn't like a

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a necessarily a real criticism

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But they played this teaser that's kind of it has a little bit of a Nazi feel to it in some ways

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They know their audience and then they had the men's battle royal they Andre the giant memorial battle royal, right?

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And so it's about 30. Did they say it battle royal? I don't know. I don't care

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They had 30 dudes in the ring and they're all fighting with each other. Yes, Matt Hardy ends up winning

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Oh, I hate it when he wins Matt Hardy has a he has a thing that he does where he deletes people

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That's a small boy. Oh, no, and he has a hand gesture for delete. No, I don't like a hand gesture

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It's a hand gesture that's like this making a delete like a minus sign like a like a like an X

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throat

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But but yeah, and it's not a Nazi salute but boy when it's

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70,000 people doing it in arena. Whoo feels very close. Oh, that's not good

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So that's within like the first I'm watching thousand people doing anything together that kind of bums me out

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Yeah, so anyway, it just dragged on and I guess some of it was good

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but the only high point for me and I know that I'm

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You know, I'm gonna sound like the fucking stupidest wrestling fan in the world

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Uh-huh, but there's this really giant guy named Braun Strowman

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Yeah, he had a shot at the the tag team titles, but he didn't have a partner

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so I I've heard this one because I my my longtime buddy Matt elf ring writes about wrestling for

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GameSpot does does a great job over there?

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Yes, he was he was very very excited about the ten-year-old child

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Is he gonna come back

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Is the ten-year-old gonna come back? I feel like he has to be he has to be a plant, right? Yeah, absolutely

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I don't care. I love the absurdity of it and I don't give a fuck

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It's very fun. Yes, and then the the the main event was Brock Lesnar and

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And Roman Reigns and like everyone complains about all that shit because it's a very repetitive match

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It's happened a bunch of time. Yeah, people are just kind of tired of it

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I don't really care about that aspect of it, but

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Roman's head ended up bleeding a lot. Okay, and I was watching it. I was like, this is gross. This is

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Disgusting like I don't even I don't care if he cut himself like they do sometimes

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Yeah, like from I learned I learned that in the the great movie the wrestler. Yeah, they played

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I don't care really what the situation was

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It was grotesque and like and seeing it made me very sick and in between the just not really enjoying

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Is he a member of the royal family? Does he have that that hemophilia?

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Mm-hmm, you know, that's a okay. I don't know. I did really enjoy NXT TakeOver New Orleans though

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That was much better because it's much shorter. You're

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You've become the old movie critic who's like a little bit. Listen. Hey, it was a great movie could have cut 10 minutes out

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Meanwhile, we're gonna cut 10 minutes out. No big deal. You could have cut 10 minutes out

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Meanwhile, like I don't like an hour and 40 long minute movie. Give me an hour and 30 meanwhile

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We do a nine hour episode that endgame. So who am I to fucking talk?

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Okay. Anyway, I thought it was fine. But I don't know. I don't know how much I'm gonna be watching in the future

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But I am excited about a ten-year-old tag team team mean exactly as much

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Yeah, probably every time you get disillusioned after every single pay-per-view God and you keep going back Dan

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Yeah, that's just boredom

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Anyway today Jordan, thank you to our new donor Jordan. Yes

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That was what that was dedicated

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Um, so the today what we're gonna be going over is we're gonna go back to the past

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We're deep in the past today because Alex has been out of studio since Thursday

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Okay, he's going to Washington DC to do his press conference, which as we know is a four day long trek via

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Covered wagon. Yeah. Yeah. Is that what we're doing? I assume okay

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So yet Owen Schroyer hosting on Monday at Mike Adams hosting on Sunday, and then there's at a best of on Friday

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Mm-hmm, so there's not a whole lot to work with here and we're recording this on Monday

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And I'm gonna put it out on Tuesday instead of Wednesday this week

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Because we might need to have an emergency recording. Oh, yes the press conference. Yeah

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Yeah, we need to not be back loaded or anything. We need to forward progress. All right for this

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Ridiculous press conference that's gonna be happening on Tuesday. So I decided let's go back to the past

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Yes, and we have been like that movie

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Uh, yes the second one of them. Yeah back to the past the third one where they had a where they went back time

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He trained. Yeah. Yeah, that was a great one. Um, so Jordan we had been going back to 2008

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looking at stuff and I've come to the issue that I keep listening to episodes and they are like

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Clips of interviews that he did on a previous episode spliced together and stuff. Okay, it's very unreliable for me to get through

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And it's just a time suck in 2008. So I decided to jump forward a bit

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And so we find ourselves in June 2009

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And today we're gonna be going over the first second and third of June 2009 and just seeing what we find

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Let's see what happens. Oh, man

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Your your ability to to put your cards behind your vest. I don't know what what's the saying there?

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I keep them close to the vest. Yes. Keep them tight. Not good. You're not good at it

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No, I mean we're gonna we're gonna find a lot of interesting stuff

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There's gonna be there's gonna be some who boys and some just like oh

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It's interesting to see a snapshot of Alex Jones from almost a decade back

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Okay

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and I have experienced I've listened to a bit of these 2009 episodes and it's much more like it's a radio show as opposed to

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in 2008 where it's like sometimes it's a radio show and then sometimes he's just

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Here's a mishmash of shows for a week or whatever

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So we will go back to 2008 eventually because we got to cover like the election and stuff like that

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We'll go back and find

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Obama I think okay. I think I don't know. I think we all lost

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Like a terminal alien verse predator situation exactly whoever wins we lose. So we start here on June 1st

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2009 yes, and the first thing that I noticed right away is that Alex has a very different way of like

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His callers are very different back then. Uh-huh. His callers are all in it for themselves

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Now I'm interested because nobody's buying products. They don't have products to buy

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Nobody opens with like hey Alex first off love your hair product or whatever it is, you know that kind of thing

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there's no formal like at the beginning of the

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The the the call just being like I love micro Z. Yes or whatever

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Yeah, so what they do instead is they go into business for themselves. Okay, and they try and promote their shit

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Here's the first example of that

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Bird man in Florida you're on the air bird man

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Good bird man, congratulations on the I really appreciate your program so much

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Um, if you give me a couple of relaxed minutes, I want to ask you if I can tell people about my old punk band in 1984

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Okay, go ahead and tell us about your punk man

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So fuck yes, we've got bird man calling

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Hey Alex, I just want to tell you about my mixtape

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Oh give it to me all day already this show feels very different

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Yeah, so you can hear that sort of exam Alex. Can I get the directions to the Walmart?

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You already hear like an exasperated tone and Alex like tell us. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. It's a punk band. Whatever. Here's where that goes

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Well from 81 to 85, that's all we ever sung about with everything that you guys talk about

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And I would like to get someone to put overdubs some of your voices on some blank tracks

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From your programs to scream about the same thing

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It's myspace.com. No free plugs

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It's amazing that in 81 to 85 he was screaming about 9-eleven trutherism

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That's the most amazing thing. Yeah, that's a great punk band. Alex puts up with it and was just like, all right

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All right, then a little bit later. We get another call

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We get another call from another guy

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Well, what I want to come and tell you that two things I want to say you've been a great inspiration to us here

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We are change, North Carolina

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I'm a member and co-organizer of that and I've got me a radio show starting on Saturday morning coming up

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Starting this Saturday. You mind if I throw a quick plug on it real quick. Sure. Go ahead

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All right. It's called eternal vigilance with Justin Priem on

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Revolution broadcasting.com. They're gonna run it from 10 a.m. To 12 noon our shows this week

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I'm extremely proud of the opportunity to get a chance to do this and Alex Jones is my

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Inspiration spoiler alert that show is no longer on. Oh, it did it eternal vigilance flame out

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I think it might have yes

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But you see there's this there's this sense that like

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Alex people think of Alex as like a way that I can get my thing out right back at this point which is

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Pretty interesting. Yeah, and Alex is kind of still operating on some sort of like local radio vibe

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like a almost public access show kind of feel I

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of somebody giving out their website in a

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10 second clip like because if you've ever given anybody a website, they're they're like, okay spell that for me

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Yeah, and somebody so they're saying like I was listeners

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either vigilant either

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People are on their computer ready to type it in as I speak or people are

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Recording this and are willing to listen back to it to get it right. Mm-hmm. There's no way that this is a good idea

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Yeah, it's I and I think that why I feel like are many many calls into coast-to-coast a.m. Haven't worked out

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No, absolutely not. Um, I just think it's fascinating that that's sort of the vibe that's going on

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With with Alex at this point. It's it's it's entertaining and then we get to it's like a he's like a

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local radio station guy he's like

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He's like one of the failed comedians from the 80s who became a regional radio station DJ of some sort

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Yeah, they do they do

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Promotional like oh, we're gonna show up outside the minor league baseball's first day of the year like that kind of guy

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Yeah, yeah, and a lot of the a lot of the narratives that he's selling aren't really even worth it going over

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They're all kind of just just nonsense

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Like he's screaming about how the ever things about to collapse which I can understand that right sentiment in 2009

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Certainly that sort of that was probably a prevailing feeling

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Oh, well, it's a weird thing to feel whenever everything had already collapsed

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Also, he he reads an article about society about to collapse from Pravda, which is fun

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You may sell those purses. Yes

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the devil wears profit

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He also screams about how Congress is being blackmailed, but he doesn't mention anything about doesn't mention Larry Nichols. No

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that

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He said soothe. He also doesn't bring up the his whole cosmology about pedophile blackmail or anything like that

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It's just some sort of regular old just nebulous ideas of blackmail. He screams about how

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a Supreme Court justice nominee Sotomayor is a racist it goes on some of that, you know what

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She's actually done a really great job

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like when you whenever I wrote I remember her confirmation and reading up on her and

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the the consensus at the time was very much like well, she's she's more of a

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Centrist liberal like center-left kind of judge and since then if you read her decisions

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She's been pretty hard pretty hard towards the left. Mm-hmm. I like her cool. I like Sotomayor

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Well someone who Alex like I give her my retroactive

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endorsement

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Someone who Alex gives an endorsement to now great is a guy by the name of Erik Prince

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Who runs Blackwater? No or ran Blackwater, which is not

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a name a number of times great episode of the dollop. Yeah, Alex now calls him a great patriot and

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Hero because he's involved with a lot of Trump's shady dealings and is deeply involved with Trump

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Let's hear what he was saying about Blackwater back in 2009

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Cold-blooded murdering thugs. Yep. That's the same thing that

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Blackwater worldwide's doing all over the planet right now. They

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Work for the people that are bringing down this country what the fuck what the fuck?

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No, he's nailed it bright, but how do you still work for those very same people?

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How do you go from there to abandoning that? Well Trump got elected. Well, yeah, of course see it's very simple

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That's it. Every single conservative principle that has ever been hill held has been

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demolished by Trump

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It's absolutely it's very interesting though that applies to Alex Jones's conspiracy world just as equally

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Yeah, you know the idea exactly the idea that he's selling

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pretty accurate picture that Blackwater are murdering thugs and death merchants pretty much and then I just

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Conveniently forget that that the same guy who ran that is now someone who I yell about it being a great patriot

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Well, he doesn't run it anymore. He probably left due to morality concern, right? That was something that if I've if I know anything about

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Eric Prince, it's that morality is high on his list. Right, right. Um, and so

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It's weird. It's it's you see these inconsistencies and certainly there's a ton of them

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But one thing that is pretty consistent through Alex Jones's early career that we're finding is weird commercials

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I got to get some of those great

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Mushrooms you can find in me right? Well, but a lot of those are poisonous

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That's why you need that book admittedly the greatest teacher has experience

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Which I feel like they should not be selling on their ad for don't eat this bullshit. If you have enough time

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You don't need this. Yeah, exactly, but time is short. There's a storm coming

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so

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We know we know that one of Alex Jones's consistent principles throughout his his life has been

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Opposition to abortion except for the ten that he got when he was right, right, right

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And in this next clip he discusses the shooting of an abortion doctor. Oh, I remember this one and this is

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Fuck. Hey domestic white terrorism never happened. This is super weird the spin he takes on it

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The historical comparison he decides to make here now that said member John Brown who in Kansas

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They've got no fewer than 14 statues. I looked it up this morning at the State House. You name it?

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John Brown the abolitionist killed a whole bunch of people slave owners

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Well massacred nine in Kansas

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Nine slave owners killed him down in a hammer shot him through

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then let an army of white abolitionists and blacks on an armory in another state or just about the list and

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the state honors him for assaulting the military and police and killing them and

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They got statues for him all over, Kansas

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Now I'm not defending John Brown

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Abraham Lincoln, you know said that he was a misguided soul. I don't think he was

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but you got to ask why state houses and why county seats all over the country and

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Why black community centers all over the country have statues to John Brown who went around killing white slave owners?

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Now are those blacks human beings? Yes, they are those babies human beings

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See, this is the war situation if we win and defeat the New World Order and stop the killing 50-plus million

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Babies is that enough?

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Will there be statues to this guy? Whoa, I'm only asking the question. I'm gonna go with no

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I don't think it's a very easy question. I should go around killing abortionist

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Don't know

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It'll make them into victims

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That's the only way they're gonna be around you peddling their trade

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thing

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yikes

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yikes

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Weird outro music. Yeah, that large weird outro music is is

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insane, uh

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Well, I mean when you consider how many statues are for slave owners

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Mm-hmm. I'm way on board with statues for slave murderers. Sure. That's like just slave owner murderers not right the

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slave owners

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I think that when you really take a like a step back and look at what is going on here

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What you see is that the guy who shot an abortion doctor is not

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Doing that because he's motivated by the plight of the unborn

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I really don't think so

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They're usually doing it because they're threatened by the idea of women's autonomy and want to commit terrorist acts in order to scare people out

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Of being abortion. Oh, do you mean all anti-abortion people? Yeah, exactly

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I mean like, you know, we what you're doing is when you kill an abortion doctor is you are trying to reinforce a

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Status quo that is not equitable. In fact, I would

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Suggest that what you are is the equivalent of the slave owner in

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in the metaphor, so

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You're killing

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An abolitionist is what you're doing what I would say is right in the same vein

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If you kill just Jeff Bezos, I will make a statue for you. You can make a statue. I

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If I if somebody kills Jeff Bezos, I'll learn. Okay. God damn you're crafty

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So I am crafty so that's fucked up I thought that was really disturbing by and large

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But the thing that I thought was even more disturbing is that back in 2009?

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Go ahead

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He's comparing like

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To a certain extent I kind of understand from if you are

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Taking his standpoint in good faith

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the idea that an abortion doctor because unborn children are

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People right then that's a murderer

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Right if so, if you believe that if you truly believe that I can understand why somebody murdering a murderer

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To you right a state-sanctioned murderer is a positive moral act. Yeah

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But no, well, I'm gonna go with a hard no on that one the the

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The other problem that I have with that is the title abortion doctor is silly

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Because that's that's suggesting that there are people or like this guy who got killed is just like all day. I abort

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That's all I do baby. Can you get a can you get a specially specialty in med school of just abortions?

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I mean, I'm like you don't have to learn about any diseases. You just have to learn about murdering

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Maybe in their words babies. I don't know. I don't think so. But uh,

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Listen, listen, we got to move along with a lot of road to cover. Okay, and the thing this time's derailing this whole thing

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This next clip is super wild

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Because back in 2009 Alex Jones's callers were either pitching their own stuff

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Or calling him out for things and in 2009 Alex Jones can handle criticism

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Okay, listen to this guy call in he sucks it up kind of I mean, it's not good

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But he can he doesn't get mad

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So I find you

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extremely difficult to believe

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Most of what you say at this point this then why are you still listening thing?

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You blew completely out of proportion

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You said you were losing touch with your ability to think a couple of weeks ago

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I think you should admit you're a right-winger for one and quit saying you're trying to break the left-right paradigm

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Hello

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Now I'm listening to you. Okay, and I this guy called in Friday

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To your show

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Jason was the host but Jason was real trite with the guy the guy was going to disagree and he was going to say that

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You guys are you know picking on Obama a whole lot more than Bush?

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Which I totally agree with that good call and I want to back that guy up, but Jason wouldn't

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Really wouldn't listen to the guy. He just got really trite

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Really smart with him and the guy ended up just kind of hanging up during the break and never got any points out

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But I would say that we're being bombarded with Obama being the tip of the spear

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I mean Bush wasn't the tip of the spear. He was kind of like a good old boy who you kind of like

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Did underneath, you know, you're kind of like, you know him you get a statue too. I want to say that mining mercury mining gold

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Causes mercury poisoning. Are you familiar with this? I know that I know there's a lot of mining

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Like yeah, yeah, the the two deepest mines in the world gold mines are in South Africa

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I'm not sure what is happening. There was like 177 blacks

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Fried in a gold mine in South Africa and sir, sir. I appreciate your call, sir

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Listen, I gave you about two minutes to run on there and say I'm a right-winger

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I'm not a right-winger or a left-winger. So he just he like no I disagree with you, but doesn't get mad at him

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He lets him speak. I also feel like midnight in the Garden of Good Evil is trite. I feel like that's troublesome

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We haven't seen it yet, but I'm guessing there'll be a musical about Hamilton, that's right

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Let's try to try

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I mean like that is an unheard of amount of time for criticism to be allowed on the air these days

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Oh

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and even if Alex Jones did let someone say that many like pretty critical negative words about him and

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Accurate, you know, like you're way more. Yeah Obama than you were against Bush Oh 100 that sort of thing

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He would come back from it and start fucking

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Screaming at him. Oh, of course

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Just like he has that commercial even plays where he screams at that Frank guy Frank

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I need your help Frank right that he always

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makes jokes about the first the first thing that he would say in response to this now is like I

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Understand your criticism. I'm not saying it that I'm treating him differently cuz he's black and you'd be like

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Well, he didn't he didn't point that out. You change it. He'd create a version of the complaint

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Yeah, yeah, and to some extent he still is cuz he's claiming that he's not a

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Right-winger, which I mean he's his soul lives on the right

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Super hard. So at the end of this episode soul lives on the white Dan at the end of this episode

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We get a delightful appearance from one Jesse Ventura. Hey

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Jesse Ventura comes in and they have a nice time having a chat. Jesse is

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smart

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He's making independent minded opinions and people keep bringing up points and he's just like well, how would you do that?

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you

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talking about like

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Dumb policy ideas. Well, logistically. What do you think that would look like and people have no answer. It's amazing

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I love Jesse Ventura every time he shows up on the show. Yeah, it's fantastic with the exception of that like Chris Kyle saga

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I have liked everything

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That's a good point. Um, he gets Alex to admit that he supports the opening up of Cuba, right?

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Back in 2009 Alex was for the idea of opening up Cuba

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He was against it when it happened and then they talk a bunch about how man cow had recently done a publicity stunt where he?

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Allowed himself to be water powers a piece of shit

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No, he doesn't really say that I think he's kind of on board with man cow

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Yeah, but they talk about how man cow had been he do you remember this?

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He got water boarded as a publicity stunt

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I do remember that and he lasted like two seconds of his like no, this is fucking torture. This is bullshit. Oh shit all the things that I believe for a long time aren't true. Right right and so they talk a bit about that and Jesse Ventura's like of course it is

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Didn't I don't need to do that to know that

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It's it's pretty

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Nonsensical a lot of it's not really even worth listening to but there's one clip that I think elevates to the level of greatness

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Where we learn something very important about Alex, okay, I tell you serving is very addictive isn't it Jesse yes

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It is and it's very it's very difficult and people don't realize that it's a life

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Dedication and I love to say this if people are that dedicated to a religion would they call them religious bombs?

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I'm as brown as a coconut from the beach. I love the beach itself. We'll be right back

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That's a top ten throw there you go, that is a top ten throw to break solid

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I'm as brown as a coconut from the beach. I love the beach itself. We'll be right back

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It's

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Free show we were talking to AC Slater and that is an AC Slater blow right no doubt. That's Lopez Ian. Oh, yeah

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I love that. That's very fun. And that brings us to the end of June 1st. Oh now we go to June 2nd

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And there's this shows a lot of it's a it's a lot of hot garbage. There's not a lot going Alex Alex

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I'm still on hold

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he starts the show off with an interview with man cow about this publicity stunt that he had done and

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Alex is like I think I should die. I should get waterboard and see how long I can make it

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I'm like, yeah, I was trying to get a run-off

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Yeah, it's not worth listening to it all. Also. You're too much of a

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Weakling probably last ten seconds. No, you wouldn't do it. Yeah, probably he's afraid

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Also, no because he's seen man cow fail right home miserably at it

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He has to realize I'm probably gonna fail too. And if I fail super fast, I'm

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Fucked and Alex's stated position at this point is already that it's torture

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So right, he has no he has nothing to really prove about it other than it. Yep

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Yeah, which you could just say based on man cows video. But anyway man cows on it

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It's not worth listening to it all except for this small clip

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Eric man cow molar

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to get a talk show host

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That's right, Sally we decided to start calling him Sally, you know, I like when you thank me and call me Sally

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Fake man, you are something else

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I was saying should I call you Eric man cow molar and you said call me whatever I want

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I said, okay, I'll call you Sally and now your new name will be Sally. Whatever. How are you Alex? I

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Was about to say something really horrible

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What was he gonna say?

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He doesn't say he never says so Eric man camel

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I wish I would have heard this before I was on man cow and I just could have called him Sally

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I thought that would've been great god damn it. He sucks

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But the rest of the interview is just the worst piece of shit

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The the rest of the interview is just him talking about his waterboarding and who cares a little bit later

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He gets a visit from a guy named Mike Rivera who does a show called what happened with I believe is the name of it

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It's another sad title. It's another show on the GCN radio network Genesis communications

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What about stuff he got kicked off the the radio network he much happened he got

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He got kicked off let me find I got to pull the vamp for a second here cuz I got to find the exact quote

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They up for a second. Ah

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Hi coming up next month in May. I will be at Zadie's all month six. That's not what I meant by Zadie's downtown Chicago

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It's terrible. I mean, I'm not vamping. I'm not gonna vamp for you. It's terrible. What are you?

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What do you what do you want me to do it? Jesse Ventura impression? I've already failed miserably at that couldn't hurt

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So he was a host on the Genesis communications network. The show is called what really happened with Mike Rivera

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He was a host until about 2010 when he left according to him because he and Alex Jones did not see eye to eye on

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Israel so what really happened Dan Mike is staunchly anti-israel and felt that Alex was becoming more and more

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pro-israel as time went on his statement about moving his show off the Genesis communications network included the following quote

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GCN is a reflection of Alex Jones's views on the world and more and more our points of view regarding Israel are diverging

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I guess the breaking point was his rant in which he said that anyone who is a critic of Israel is a weak-minded fool

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So he's a guy who that's in his future at this point when he's on the show at this point. They're still buddies

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And what have you but they have a breaking point over?

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relative levels of support for Israel, which is

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Where where are we at now with Alex's support of Israel?

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Um pro he's pro he's pro-israel. Yeah, but I think it's more

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He couches but like in a vague way, right?

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He couches it more as like they're one of the only

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Nationalistic countries left in the same way. He sports Russia because he views them as one of the only nationalistic countries left

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Okay, so he has sort of like so he's a big fan of

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Governments that murder people for no good reason mysteriously that seems to be all the anti globalist countries

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Really seems to be nice like the the guy who is he said anything about the guy who was elected in Hungary?

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No, Oh the avoids any any of that sort of conversation. Yeah, I would too if I were Alex

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So anyway, Mike Rivera was on and it's a boring interview

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But he does say one thing that I think is worth noting and it's kind of who Alex would never allow something like this on

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The show now, I don't think

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Every major war was ultimately lost by the country that started it. So guess where that sets us up

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I'm not surprised our soldiers are committing suicide in such numbers. They know they're the bad guys. Whoa. Wow

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Whoa, wow, is that intense? I don't think Alex would allow someone to say something like that about soldiers now

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I think he's so pro-military and yeah cop now that he wouldn't allow that sort of shit at this point in 2009 and

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Not because it's wrong. No not because historically that's the dumbest shit you can say

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If you looked at every single war that's ever been fought and tried to figure out did the aggressor win or lose

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Well, you have to because he said major war which means he's classifying the wars that he thinks are major and all other wars

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Like what?

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World War one

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Right. No, I get he's he's talking about what three wars. Maybe maybe I don't know

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And is he classifying the Korean War and the Vietnam War as major wars police action?

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I don't know

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But I do think that it's a sort of just very at least distasteful thing to say that of course these soldiers killed themselves

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They know they're the bad guys. Yeah, even from my position. I think that's not a good thing

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Like that's not a good position to hold. Hmm. I don't know. Mmm what no no, hold on before before I

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I get into any trouble for my position. It's just uh, I don't think it's because they know they're the bad guys

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I think there's a different way to phrase. Yeah similar sentiment. Yes of like

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PTSD and grief exactly about things. Yeah, you're made to do or survivors guilt your your friend died

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And so you feel like you should have been there to save him, right?

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Cuz in this position the way he's presenting it is like good

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Kill yourselves. You're the bad guys. Yeah, he's the Westboro Baptist Church. That's that's ugly

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And this is kind of ugly to this next clip. I think Alex is expressing an opinion that it's pretty cool to kill cops

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Okay, or I mean, I'm not saying like my generation or even if it's beyond my generation

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I can't you know, isn't gonna have to make sacrifices if you gotta have a revolution if you want to tell what's gonna happen

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People are gonna try to CPS

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People's kids and it's happening more and more. I see in the news every week and people are just gonna kill them and

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Cops are gonna stop people at checkpoint and the citizens are just gonna get out and it's already starting to happen and then the media

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Kind of keeps it quiet, but you see the reports all the time. It's usually old vets Korean War Vietnam

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Most of them are dead now

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but they've had a couple cases in Austin where World War two vets who get pulled over and harassed by cops in Hays County and

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Again, they'll better just get out and kill them. Yeah, I'd say buddy

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I'm not your slave is in Nazi Germany your dad and you know the cop can argue about that all day and have the media say

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The old man was bad. But at the end of the day

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there's gonna be a lot of blood and the system knows that and

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You know and look if we're self-sufficient

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They can't beat us. That's why they want to shut down the farms and ranches and get control. That's very weird Wow

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Yeah

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That's too far from me that's justifying

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Murdering cops but Nana's like DUI checkpoint. These are white people murdering cops, right?

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So it's that that should be important. It's fine. I mean that is let's let's point out

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These are 100% white people murdering cops in Alex's worldview see now

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We got to skip right ahead to the third. That's it for the second

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Uh, the third is where we're gonna focus hurt is where we get the whitest

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The third is where we're gonna focus most of our attention. No, this is a refutation of what you're saying

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now Alex says something about

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The cops negatively to start out the third. Uh-huh now granted

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I don't like the way he keeps saying blacks

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In this clip not good, but listen to the spirit of this clip and think about what you were just saying

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Listening to one of the local talk stations and

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A caller calls in and talks about how blacks continue to be killed

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Shot on the back

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Homeless blacks retarded blacks

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Autistic blacks

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You can stop in their cars at night

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And there's always an excuse for why it happens and the squad car videos always malfunction and we always find out

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Oh, it didn't malfunction. There is a surveillance camera and they say oh, but he had a gun

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Then you read the news article closely at the bottom. It says no officers thought he reached for a gun

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just

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just deception

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Look at that. Look at that

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Look at that position. Holy shit. Look at that position that Alex Jones has been kneeling for the national anthem this whole fucking time

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I mean in 2009, he has a position of the cops are trying to cover up murdering black people

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Pretending that they have guns which is an accurate depiction of I don't mean there was just another day that guy in Brooklyn with a

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Yeah, our head. I don't know how to deal with this. It's very very weird. He's dead on right now

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He's dead on like not even like not well like wrong except for some of the languages on it's not great

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It's not great, but his sentiment is there right which we can appreciate it is

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It's not even like he's it's not even like we normally agree with him where he's right in the wrong way

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Like he's dead on this is 100% accurate

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Cops are murdering black people and they are covering it up and that's that's something that needs to stop

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Yep, it was a problem in 2009. It's still a problem. But Alex has changed his tune

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There's a problem in fucking 18 right 60 Alex has changed his tune aggressively since then and now has his

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aggressively pro-military and pro cop

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positions and I think that's because he's been

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Told perhaps that that's his big audience base or whatever

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But is it is it that or is it does it really just come down to team sports?

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Like was it was it possible for the right wing to also at this time be like

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Hey cops shouldn't be killing people and then it became a thing where a black person talked about it

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And they can't abide by that

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I mean, it's possible I one of the things that I hope to track as we go as we go forward in 2009

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I have I have a subtle reason for why well, it's not subtle

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I have a bigger reason for why I'm doing this but one of the other reasons is I want to figure out like his

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Trajectory as it relates to like at this point being very anti

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Military and anti cop. Yeah and see where that changes. I think it's because of Obama

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I know of course it is. I think it's just because Obama's president and he thinks that all of them are tools of Obama's

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Machinations and what have you right, but I don't know if that's the case. So I'm gonna I'm gonna follow that moving forward

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so his his

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so if I understand correctly kind of what your point of view is on this one is that maybe

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The reason that he's against the military and the cops right now is because ultimately he believes it's headed by a black person

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Maybe and when it becomes a white person, it's fine

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I don't think it's that simple, but I don't know. I don't know if that plays into it

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I don't know if we'll ever be able to answer that question either. I don't know

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We've already answered that he's a racist, right? Right. No doubt

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But I don't I don't know if we can I don't I don't know if he could even answer that question quite frankly

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But I I know that like one of the things that fascinates me the most is like things that are different

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Yeah, like Blackwater. He was against it in 2009 loves Eric Prince now. Yeah, that's easy to explain. It's Trump, right?

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It's Trump related. That's that's simple, but that's a huge giving up of your principles in this case

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I'm I'm very fascinated in where did the pivot go of like cops are evil

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They're supporting a terrible system to love cops. Sometimes you got a bad one, but it's very rare right that sort of rhetoric

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I don't know and we'll see but he goes on to talk about another caller speaking of which a weird

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Thought that just popped in my mind as far as Alex talking about right now in

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2009 how many abortions do you think Trump has paid for?

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No idea hold on to that thought though a lot hold on to that thought a bunch

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We got to get through this next clip first, perhaps a barrel even a grip of them

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Yes, um in this excerpt he goes on talking more about this radio show. He was listening to yeah

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Where it is talking about these african-americans who've been shot by the police

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He talks about a caller and I think that she's just a racist, but he has a different he has a different position on her

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Strange you see these good old boys think they're part of the system. They think they're the winners

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They think they're protected from all of this and then I heard a woman calling right after them going

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Yeah, I think we got too many minorities and she was serious. She said I'm glad they're killing them you see that stupid

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fat soccer mom

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Thinks she's part of the establishment. She was a eugenicist what you could run into them

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I get their emails and their calls and I've had him snidely say stuff to me

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You know if you go to a school function or something

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They say well there are too many people Alex well listen here know it all control freak kill yourself then

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Okay

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Don't sit there in the minority neighborhoods until 17 year old pregnant girls if you'll have an abortion

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We'll drop this marijuana charge on you, and that's what goes on coast to coast that doesn't track that doesn't track

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I don't understand those all just buzz marketing for where's the coast a here's the start

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Where's the start point where's his end point and how do they get there no idea?

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I don't know what he's talking about there at the end, but I do know that

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What he's describing is just a racist caller on an a.m.. Talk show probably and he's a eugenicist. She's a eugenicist

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She's part of it

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She thinks she's a part of this imagined system that I'm afraid of because that short leash that is still in place in

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2009 right that part of his cosmology has existed throughout this entirety so in the same way that I'm interested in things that are different

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I'm also very interested in things that are the same and this idea that the there's this eugenicist plan by the elites

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Yeah stuff that's consistent, but this is almost a cover

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Story, I think now

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Because the concept that he's putting forth here is that?

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The globalists are trying to divide us through race right right?

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That's that's his idea there you don't think if I understand correctly there is a bit of that

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Yeah, so now he says the same thing

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But he's dividing us by race so so he's kind of got that consistent lie going on but

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like he just stopped

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Talking about it or or like

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explaining it in the it like he seems passionate whenever he's describing her as being a

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Globalist eugenicist well cuz he seemed like he seems like he cares about it in the way that he doesn't now

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But it's also because he sees his imagined enemies everywhere

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Do the same way that he talks about like being at the grocery store and someone's face turns into a demon and what-have-you and so

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Yeah, that happens. Yeah, like what was he what was he in an Aldi look? I was at a Mariano's

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Yeah, exactly that's why I went Mariano Mariano's is a way better go yeah

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Yeah, I don't know man. It's it's it's very weird

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But the thing that I think is interesting too is if you listen to that clip that like oh you want other people to die

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Why don't you kill yourself first that?

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That he that's fun. That sounds like a thing

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I would say that's the open what we just listened to is the open mic version of the bit that he did on air like

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The other day in 2018 where he's screaming about like kill yourself. I curse you and shit like that

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He's right when he's he's right. He's tooling up the bit

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He's fleshed out a bit and now he showcased version in 28 rain. We get to see the wrong long

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That's too long for a bit. It's it's quite a while. I would let that bit go

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Yeah, I would have let that bit go so you asked a second ago

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How many abortions do you think Trump is paid for and I don't know I can't answer that

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But I do know that Alex in 2020 is right in 2018 Alex has said that he has paid for at least 10

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So we do know that which is interesting to hear this in 2009

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And I'll tell you this the citizens are out of control the society's out of control

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When you're got 50 plus million dead babies because people kill their own kids their own future their own treasure

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Because they're too lazy to use contraception

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And because they're too lazy to it

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That's out of control and even if you don't believe in God and karma or your reputches

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So you better believe in the law of the universe

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Okay, so I mean like what the I mean, what are you gonna do?

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You know, and this is this is every Catholic priest

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Undoubtedly. Yeah, this is this is denying other people morality whilst you do as I say not as I do, right?

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It's just interesting that at this point in his career. He's not ready to open up in the same way that he is now

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Whether he doesn't have as much power as he does probably sure. He feels a lot well touchable. That's true

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And I think if he were to in the middle of that rant where he's judging people for being too lazy to use

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Contraception if you were to say I'm guilty

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I've had ten abortions then I think that would have really hurt him in 2009. Whereas now I

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Mean people just I mean in 2009 I give him what six I would say in the intervening nine years

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He's paid for at least four more. No, cuz in 2009, he's married to Kelly like he's

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He's yeah, Dan. They had three kids together. Uh, yeah, but they weren't fucking

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Illegitimate kids. No. No, I understand that but I don't think I think at that point he's married and he's settled down

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I would say that all of them all of the abortions that he has had whether or not that number is

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Exaggerated were in his younger years. I mean most at most I will give you eight at this time and two in the year

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Being nine years. I'd say ten before zero after and you're taking bets also in the bracket. Yes

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We got some prop bets going

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Prize winner Alex has had ten abortions before being married the first we're going to have just an elaborate book a gambling book

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on this about Alex Jones's

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conception record

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You can bet on anything in Britain. It's Jordan in the same way that Alex probably

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Would have been hurt by that information in 2009. Whereas he's not hurt by it now. Yes

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There's another difference in 2009. That's very interesting that I

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Could not have imagined was he thinner. No, I there's no video of this

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I'm just looking to audio, but maybe he was a little bit. I don't know um back just ask back then

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Then one of his sponsors is soap Cal Ben soaps. I

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Really was hoping you would just full stop soap the soap industry. Just soap

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Cal Ben soap or

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Cal Ben so Cal Ben I think how five star soaps. All right

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Eventually, he went on to leave the soap industry and

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Go with ice cream just friend Cal Jerry just to the chat room

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Um, they're asking why I think he hasn't had abortions since he got married. I guess there is a little bit of

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I

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Don't even know what you'd call it purity bias on my part may and and maybe I'm wrong

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Maybe I'm wrong, but I think that given that they had three you still believe in love

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Maybe that's kind of what you believe in Dan. I don't know but it's a cute

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That's a very cute thought at the same time in no at no point

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Am I saying this in any judgmental way? Like if I'm not being judgmental at all, right? I and I'll admit my

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Slight bias there. I've paid for 46 abortions

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That's four more than the answer to the question of what is life the universe and everything back to soap

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So

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Alex has a soap sponsor. Yes, and in order to have him be a sponsor of the show

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Alex makes clear that part of the deal is that the owner of the soap company gets to be a guest on his show once

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a month

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All right, all right, I want to know the owner of this soap company

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Well, you're gonna get to what is this? What is this soap company owner believe?

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Well, here's here's Alex introduce like trying to get into this this guest appearance

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I guess this is the only soap to defend against 9-eleven. Uh,

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You know sign issue, but I want to get into the soap but it all ties into that

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Governments

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The government is out of control it all ties into this soap though want to get into the soap

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But this is all related. Let me talk to you about Hitler

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How do you get to the bottom of the story you follow the soap? Absolutely. That's number one rule

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Man that's crazy

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So he tries to get into some of his narratives with the soap guy and it doesn't work all here we go doesn't work that

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Well, let's see it

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Eugenics, I mean I see the

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Chemical ization of everything part of the eugenics. I know it is. Have you ever looked into Margaret Sanger and the Colgate Foundation and all that?

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No

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Yeah, it's it's pretty hardcore well regardless tell us what on record the detergents and toxic subs are doing

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I fucking look this is sad

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No

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Alright, well tell us about soap then tell us about what's wrong with detergent

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So they have a little talk about detergent, oh, please more and there's more of that this guy is like hey

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You know, they put they talk about

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Sodium chloride being in soap and everybody's like, oh, what is this chemical? It's table salt

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And they use it is just a filler. We don't use it as a fill

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It's all a fucking ad for his soap

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Yeah, of course it is and it gets to this if you give a hard no to that question. You're out it gets to this

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Our guarantee is satisfaction guaranteed or w dirt back

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Explain some of the chemicals that are in the soaps and hair care products and all the crud

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People use I know I washed my hair after looked and waits this morning with Calvin shampoo good on air read

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That is smooth beautiful beautiful silky smooth

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I know I washed my hair this morning after lifting weights cuz I'm a strong man swole

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With Calvin shampoo. He does do that little pause and then just put some English. Oh, it's good

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So I want I want this Alex back. This is this is a Alex if you're listening god

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Damn it. Come back to this. This is a sad Alex because what you're seeing is

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A guy who has to allow this in order to be sponsored, you know

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Like I I want sponsors badly in terms of allowing us to continue doing this without me needing to

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How's Calvin doing? I'll give him a call. Yeah, but I like yeah, I would never I would never

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Ben talk about your time working for the Alex Jones show

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No, I would I would never accept that as a stipulation of sponsorship and it's clear Alex

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Does make clear that part of the sponsorship is he's on once a month. Yeah, doesn't score happy about it. Of course

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This is a mic down clip. Listen to this is how the interview ends

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Okay, or five-star soap calm or Calvin pure soap calm Marty. Give me a quick limerick. I'm a young lady of Kent who said that she knew what it meant when men asked her to die gave her cocktails and wine. She knew what it meant, but she went.

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Marty Schachter. It wasn't even a fun limerick. It was bad. Oh shit. It was shit. But then there's so much fun there because you've got the long pause and then Alex ha ha ha. Yeah. All right. All right. Great stuff. Great stuff, kid. All right. Great stuff.

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Give me a quick limerick. That's a fascinating glimpse into 2009 Alex. I fucking love it. He's being subjected to this in order to survive. Give me a quick limerick is my favorite sentence Alex has ever said and it's clear. I mean you could pick up from context clues that like that. I gotta ask him for a limerick.

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Yeah. No he has to because that's what this guy is known for improvising limericks off the top of his head and that goes out to the bar and everybody's like oh give us a limerick you asshole and that's what he wants to do. He wants to go on air and do a limerick. He doesn't want to talk about.

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No he doesn't give a shit about soap either. He just wants to talk limericks on air. Absolutely love it. So in 2009 something happened. Larry Nichols you would be back on the show if you did limerick. You just figured out a way to talk about how you're not a duck. Just give me some limericks.

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So something happened in 2009 about Alex and it's one of the few times that he's been shook. There's people who are making claims about him. First of all the people who attack him are shitheads. You need to know that.

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That's a first start. And in this next clip he gets into it in a way that he usually doesn't address public criticism but this one he has to.

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A lot of these folks that attack me aren't just government operatives or just info agents. They didn't have great parents like I did. They didn't have the life experiences I did to bring me to the point I'm at. I love this rock.

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But I do have to answer some of the charges occasionally. You gotta. The police state control grid coming up next hour. Absolutely. And a little phone's up as well.

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I uh. Oh boy. I've been getting emails about this the last few months and I thought it was a joke so I ignored it but it seems to have picked up steam.

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I want you seriously to try and guess what he's talking about.

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You know I want to go with Israel or something like that but I feel like that's not going to be the way I want to go with. It's something that he's deeming serious enough to address on air. Right.

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It's a criticism that for months people have been emailing him. Yeah. I'm I'm. You know what I am going to go with.

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That's not the best way to hide your guns. Oh that's interesting. That's not it.

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And so I guess I might as well at least chime in on it. It just really gets ridiculous.

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Hot dogs are not a sandwich. This is why mainstream people laugh when they hear you question the government.

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I still have no idea. One more chance. Um.

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Beef versus tofu. Nope. Because the media is smart. They focus in on the out and out kooks the out and out nuts.

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The people that are just saying absolutely insane ridiculous things. They certainly are now. The rest of us who are questioning the official government story that's almost always a lie or at least partially a lie.

Unknown Speaker (01:00:08.539)

It's always spin at least. Fluoride? Looks stupid.

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They do this guilt by association. And you know none of us are perfect so I try not to be judgmental. Fair. But.

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There are tens of thousands of sites or pages that come up saying I'm Bill Hicks.

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Oh. And people actually believe it. I mean big websites have it up and have our pictures side by side and really say I'm Bill Hicks.

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And you know it's almost crazy to come on air and say. It is a little crazy.

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I'm not Bill Hicks. Cool. And in a way it only encourages it. A little. Just like to come on air and say I'm not a reptoid.

Unknown Speaker (01:00:54.539)

Because people blow up videos of me where there's two point light in front of me and that puts the image of two lights on each side of my eyes so it makes it look like I have cat's eyes.

Unknown Speaker (01:01:03.539)

What. What. Yeah. So that would make sense. So just before you respond to that about a minute later he makes an official statement.

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But I'm not going to belabor it. I just need to answer it on record and say are you Bill Hicks. No I'm thirty five years old and I was born in Parkland Hospital in Dallas Texas and I am not Bill Hicks.

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Bill Hicks did not stage his death. That's a very mean thing to say.

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True. I've even talked to some of his family and I know I'm Bill really did die folks.

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I mean I think it is a mean thing to say in terms of like Bill Hicks his own wife. Right. Like if you have any respect for Bill Hicks it's an insult to say that he's Alex Jones now.

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I mean some of his later specials weren't that great. No that's definitely true. I mean it's the same thing with pretty much any comic.

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Yeah. So that's for what. George Carlin. Some of those letters. All right. Good point. Good point. Little special. Great either.

Unknown Speaker (01:02:01.539)

But look dude this is fascinating to me because he wouldn't he wouldn't fucking air this kind of shit now or he would have come up with a better spin on it than just I'm not Bill Hicks.

Unknown Speaker (01:02:14.539)

Maybe that's his distraction now. Maybe he should go back to being like people still think I'm Bill Hicks. Oh he does that from time to time. Yeah.

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He has done that. He's gone back to the well as like his satire pieces where he'll play with that that meme. Right. Which which should be the easiest way to tell he's not Bill Hicks.

Unknown Speaker (01:02:33.539)

His satire is garbage. It's pretty bad. There's no grasp on what satire is. Even at his worst Bill Hicks was better at satire than Alex.

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But it's wild man. In 2009 he saw fit to make a big production out of saying like this is how they invalidate you.

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Every time the mainstream media gets a hold of somebody questioning the government story on 9-11 they just keep calling him Bill Hicks. Right. Every single one of them.

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And at the same time Glenn Beck I would say Bill Glenn Beck Hicks. I would say that if he was Bill Hicks kind of makes him more legitimate. You know right.

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If it was like all right look I tried to play a little charade but it's important to me and I just didn't want my past work to be involved in my present work. Right.

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I created a new identity for myself. Also I faked my own death. That was a big part of that. But that's not a big deal. It's a weird thing to admit on air.

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I don't think it's a crime. Might be a crime. Probably a tax crime. Also I was the plane hijacker. D.B. Cooper. D.B. Cooper. Right. All of these things. D. Bill Hicks Cooper.

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So now at this point we get to Alex Jones giving us a list of globalists. And that's interesting. All right.

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Remember this story from a week or two ago and ABC News reported it first and said yes secret meeting of the world elite to carry out eugenics.

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But they said it's a good thing. Billionaire club and bid to curb overpopulation through a world government.

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And it has to be secret they say for your own good. And it's Bill Gates. It's David Rockefeller. It's Warren Buffett. It's Michael Bloomberg. It's Oprah Winfrey Ted Turner.

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All the suspects. And they met at Rockefeller University president's private home. So you've got a list there. Conspicuous in his absence. George Soros.

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Also Tina Turner. Right. Right. Another conspicuous snub. Snub. Known globalist Tina Turner.

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Sure. How else do you get your hits to move that? What? Nationalism got to do. Got to do with it.

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You know I mean this is this is probably the larger picture of what I'm most interested in.

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And looking back on these episodes is when did George Soros. When did he come into play. Yeah.

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And you can see here we already looked at that episode from 2006 with with Aaron Russo. Right.

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Talked about all this shit. No mention of Soros. Endgame. His entire documentary about the globalist agenda and their plan for enslavement.

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No mention of Soros. And now here we are in 2009 and he's listing off globalists and no mention of Soros.

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Right. Now I also want to be clear I do know a little bit that I should just tell everyone ahead of time.

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I do know that in 2010 Glenn Beck does a two part two night special about how George Soros is the puppet master.

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And it's one of the most anti-Semitic nonsensical things that has ever been aired on television. Yes I recall that.

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It got incredible blowback. Yeah. And my working theory and we will see if this is the case.

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I'm not entirely sure but I am suspicious that Alex Jones got on the Soros tip a little bit before that.

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And that's why he's pissed off at Glenn Beck. You think so. Yeah. That Glenn Beck ripped that off.

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And that that because that kind of you know Glenn Beck in those weird crazy circles.

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You know what. I'm actually going to go with the opposite. I'm going to go with this is our QAnon situation all over again.

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Oh and he gets to Soros a little bit after Glenn interest because he sees Glenn Beck getting all this attention.

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Right. So then he jumps on Soros and that's why he's pissed off at Glenn Beck is because he doesn't get to take credit for it.

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Either of these things are possible and we'll see as it plays out because neither of us know. No we have hunches and we'll see.

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So in this so far mine have all been wrong and yours tend to be right. There we go.

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I mean it's just by virtue of the fact that I have a mind meld with this dumb asshole.

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Yeah I know it's a very strange thing.

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So in this next clip Alex brings up one of his favorite sources about the transhumanist eugenics future.

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And it's just fun to listen to because it's so wrong. He's just making shit up. It's so fun.

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It's so fun to know for sure that even in 2009 he was just making shit up.

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You know Bill Joy of Sun Microsystems I always plug key things that are well known. There's thousands of things we could plug.

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April issue 2000 of Wired Magazine. Why the future doesn't need us.

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And he said I went to a top tech private conference with 200 top tech leaders sworn to secrecy.

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I can't say the names. This is the guy worth 4 billion bucks at that time.

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Owned the biggest infrastructure companies out there for IT. Sun Microsystems.

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And he says it was very upsetting. It was how do we kill everybody or do we just call most of the people and let them be entertained by the new technocracy.

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And the elites leaning towards killing everybody.

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Alex is making that part up too.

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And then he goes on to quote Theodore Kaczynski. Why did Kaczynski, this professor, this doctor,

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admitted LA Times reports CIA operative, he quits, runs to the bush and starts bombing people for a decade.

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Bombing people over key technocracies.

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I'm not defending what he did but that's a real environmentalist.

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Kaczynski said my god they're planning to create a total grid, create a new species of humanoids, what the elites say they're doing,

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merging with cybernetics and getting rid of most of us. He said I gotta go kill these people.

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So real quick, Ted Kaczynski was crazy.

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So did Alex just come on air and be like the Unabomber had some good ideas man, that's all I'm saying.

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And then later.

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He's the guy at the party you do not want to be anywhere near.

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He's Drew Michael's bit.

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He's Drew Michael's bit.

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Yeah.

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I forgot about that, that's not a bad bit.

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It's not a bad bit.

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It's not a bad bit.

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So the couple things that I want to point out is that the quote in that article, Why the Future Doesn't Need Us from Ted Kaczynski, is all Alex Jones read.

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Because all of the other stuff that he's talking about, about like the people killing us off and stuff like that,

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the elites making a decision whether or not, that's all from the Ted Kaczynski quote in the article.

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He's taking that as being Bill Joy's position, which it is not.

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If you go to our website, knowledgefight.com, I have an entire big write-up that I've done on Bill Joy, Why the Future Doesn't Need Us, and Why Alex Jones is Full of Shit.

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You can find a link to the actual article.

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It's kind of long, but it's worth it.

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It's enjoyable.

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But it explains very thoroughly.

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And the annotated version of the Unabomber's manifesto?

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Yeah, yeah, absolutely.

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Did you do the whole thing?

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No, we just have the whole thing up there on our website.

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That'd be a thing that I might do.

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For my next blog post, I'm just going to put up Ted Kaczynski's Unabomber manifesto.

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I wouldn't put it past you.

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And be like, eh?

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Question mark at the end.

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Exactly, eh?

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Shrugging emoticon.

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This next clip is weird.

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I think it matches up with some of Alex's ideas in the present, but I don't know where

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he's getting any of this information from, and it's super fucked up, and also a little

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bit...

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When's Larry Nichols coming to play?

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He's not around, as far as I know.

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He's not around?

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No Steve Pacenik.

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No Roger Stone.

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We're going bare bones, Alex Jones making up shit whole cloth.

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I mean, Ventura's around, but in terms of people we know in his world have been around

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for a long time.

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Bill Hicks is there.

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I don't know.

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I don't know.

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It's tough.

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I don't know.

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Those guys might be around.

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I just haven't come into an episode with them yet.

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Okay.

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But this clip, very weird, and quite...

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They have social workers that ask them questions under this, or mommy and daddy spanking you.

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Are they yelling at you?

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Because we've got a nice foster home, especially if you're blonde-haired and blue-eyed like

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this little girl.

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She better be careful, because they can get half a mil for them.

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Wait.

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And people can't believe this is happening.

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I had a senator on a few weeks ago from Georgia where she was naming names of where there

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are bounties.

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We need this many blonde-haired, blue-eyes this week.

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I don't believe this.

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And they got Walmart employees.

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Everybody watching.

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You yell at your kid.

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Boom.

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Police are there.

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Take them.

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They're gone.

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They get half a mil.

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Walmart gets a few grand out of it.

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Wait.

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What?

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Walmart and pizza places and everybody run your criminal background when you pay with

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a credit card, and you wonder why cops pull you over when you leave the parking lot.

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They've got the whole grid in place.

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Wait.

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So does Walmart get the commission on the kidnapped kid?

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Or on the catching of the kidnapped kid?

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Now, see, I'm more curious about, does the employee or Walmart LLC?

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Oh, Walmart LLC.

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Come on.

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They don't treat their workers well at all.

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Now, maybe the employee gets a little bit of a cash kickback, but come on, man.

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This, to me, is like, this is just indicative.

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Half a million and they only get a few thousand dollars?

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That's a bad negotiating tactic.

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That's a bad finder's fee.

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Yeah, absolutely.

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This, to me, is like the perfect encapsulation of the Alex Jones narratives you don't need

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to look into.

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I can't see why.

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Well, there's a lot that I like to research, and this is not the kind of thing I like to

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research because I can just, I just smell it.

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I'm like, nah.

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See, this is the only type of thing.

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I want to research it because I really want to find out, like, my main goal is to find

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out that Walmart does get a finder's fee.

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Well, cause like, if there was a senator who was making these claims...

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Didn't you have a senator from Georgia on there?

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I didn't listen to The Week Before This.

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I might have to go back and...

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Why would you, why would you say that you have a senator from Georgia and not say the

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name?

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He lies a lot.

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You should remember that.

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Fair.

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Even in 2009, he's lying a lot.

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Like, if a senator was making these sorts of allegations, they'd at least get looked

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into and it would be pretty easy to figure out a paper trail of kidnapped kids kick back

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to Walmart.

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Well, yeah.

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Are they getting paid by a check?

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Let's be fucking clear that Walmart is a billion dollar company.

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They don't give a fuck about $2,000 for helping kidnap children.

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When you got such a low overhead on children kidnapping, that's pure profit, Dan.

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So ridiculous.

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It all adds up.

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Absolutely ridiculous.

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Look, you, you build your, you build your empire on the small things, Dan.

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Well, what, I think what you really come down to...

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And that, by that I mean kids.

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Alex, Alex resents the idea of child protective services, which to me is like, I don't know,

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I don't know why you don't want abused children to have resources at their disposal.

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Because he does all of the things that the CPS says you shouldn't do.

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Well, I don't know.

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I mean, he puts his son on air making spurious accusations.

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That's not great.

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Aggressive and violent gun rights debate 2018.

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He's the, he's the person who says...

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He has his kids involved in a transphobic satire video.

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Right.

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That's not great.

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At one point.

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I'm sure he spanks them very, very aggressively.

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It's possible.

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I don't know.

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We can't make those sorts of claims.

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He's just doing the version of the guy who's like, well, they hit me when I was a kid and

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I turned out fine.

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Sure, sure.

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And your answer to that should be like, well, some of you turn out to be Alex Jones, so

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maybe fucking figure it out.

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But the thing, I mean, sure.

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But what I want to talk more about is the idea that like this, this child protective

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services evil or weird because they're asking kids who are, they come into their purview,

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are you okay?

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Right.

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I don't think that's an evil thing at all.

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I think that's them doing their job.

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The idea of like asking, does mommy hit you?

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Does daddy hit you?

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Right.

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That sort of thing is giving kids a chance to be saved from abuse.

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If Alex is against that because of the sanctity of the family or whatever, I got to say I

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a hundred percent disagree with that.

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Right.

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But be that as it might.

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What would you say?

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What?

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What would you say to a CPS social worker that asked you that question?

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Say you are eight or nine.

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If I was a kid?

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Yeah.

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I'd say no.

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Right?

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Yeah.

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I'd say no too and I got the shit kicked out of me.

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Wow.

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Okay.

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Wow.

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We have slightly different.

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Fair enough.

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Fair enough.

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Yeah.

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You were trained to say no.

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That's a good way of putting it.

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Whereas I've.

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Spare the rod, spoil the child, my friend.

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See, I've only realized that the spankings with a wooden spoon were bad as an adult.

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Yeah.

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I didn't realize that back then.

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No, no, no.

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I agree.

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I would have said the same thing.

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I wouldn't have articulated it back then.

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But be that as it may.

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That's my way of getting away from this uncomfortable territory.

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Good call.

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We have a guest.

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See, it's how both of us are fucked up.

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Yeah.

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We have a guest coming up on this June 3rd of 2009 episode.

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Let's do it.

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And this guest.

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This guest.

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Did you ever wonder how Alex Jones met Jesse Ventura?

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No.

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I just assumed that they fucking.

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You're right.

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I should have at least considered that.

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For some reason, Alex Jones knowing Jesse Ventura has made the most sense of anything

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that this show has ever done is just like, oh, they know each other.

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Of course they're buddies.

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Yeah.

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What?

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They were born in the same basket.

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Like, I don't know.

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I don't know how else to say it.

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Today we find out how he met Jesse Ventura.

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Okay.

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Kinky Friedman's set to announce he's running for governor.

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Kinky Friedman?

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At least that's what I heard from my producer.

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We'll see.

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All right.

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We'll talk about it.

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That's coming up.

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Musician, best-selling author.

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That's how I met Jesse Ventura.

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Kinky Friedman.

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So, separately.

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I guess that's not how I met Willie Nelson.

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Willie Nelson.

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I ran into it at a movie showing and then he contacted us.

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What do you know about Kinky Friedman?

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I know the name I used to know a lot more, but that's one of those things where no matter

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how much you forget about somebody, you're never going to forget the name Kinky Friedman.

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Kinky Friedman is really cool.

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He has no business being on Alex Jones' show, except that they're both Texans and kind of

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dudes.

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What do you need?

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I'm going to tell you a little bit about Kinky Friedman before we get into the interview.

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Let's do it.

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I want to know all about Kinky Friedman.

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In the 1970s, Kinky Friedman was in a parody country band called Kinky Friedman and the

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Texas Jew Boys.

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He's already my favorite artist of all time.

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They played such songs as Get Your Biscuits in the Oven and Your Buns in the Bed.

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Fantastic.

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And his other hit.

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Weird Al Should Figure Shit Out.

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And his other hit, They Ain't Making Jews Like Jesus Anymore.

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He's Jewish.

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I get it.

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I get that.

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He's celebrating his country Judaism.

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No, I get that.

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I understand.

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It's a line.

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It's a weird line.

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Not to profile, I guess that Kinky Friedman was a Jew.

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So he toured with Bob Dylan in 1976 on the Rolling Thunder review tour and he was the

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musical guest on an episode of Saturday Night Live.

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They all put Jesus' blood on the tracks like they used to.

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No.

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I remember that tour.

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He was a musical guest on an episode of Saturday Night Live in 1976 where the host was Steve

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Martin.

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How awesome is that?

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That's so cool.

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That's super cool.

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So after that, after his music career ran its course, he started writing mystery novels.

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I wonder what happened.

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He was actually super successful.

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No, I mean after his music, the part where after his music career ran its course, it's

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like well of course.

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He played the Grand Old Opry.

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I don't know if this is entirely true, but he claims to be the first full-blooded Jewish

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person who's ever played the Grand Old Opry.

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That's possibly true.

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That's amazing.

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Now I want to know more about Kinky Friedman.

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He played Austin C. limits.

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Do they have any books about him in my local library?

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He wrote 15 of them.

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All right, well I'll read them.

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Probably even more than that because after his musical career, he started writing mystery

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novels.

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This is great.

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I love Kinky Friedman.

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They featured a detective named Kinky Friedman, who had finished up a musical career.

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It would only be better if the detective was named Angela Lansbury.

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That would be the only way.

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That would be a great twist.

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That would be a great twist.

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Kinky Friedman was the character's name.

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He had been a musical guy in the South and then he moved to New York, started solving

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crimes with the help of his cat.

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Love it.

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I love this.

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I love this so much.

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And then in 2006, I love this so much, he ran for governor of Texas.

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Of course.

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Why wouldn't he?

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He was hoping to follow in the wake of Jesse Ventura becoming governor of Minnesota in

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1999 and Schwarzenegger becoming California's governor in 2003.

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Kinky, I didn't see that coming.

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Ventura and Kinky were good friends.

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I love it.

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Of his political ambition, he wrote, quote, my platform is to remember that when they

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went out searching for Sam Houston to try and persuade him to be the governor, and he

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was the greatest governor this state has ever had.

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Not true.

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Rumor has it that they found him drunk sleeping under a bridge with the Indians.

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Like it?

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Yeah.

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I'm a big fan of that.

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He sold shirts with his slogan, Kinky 2006.

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Why the hell not?

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I love it.

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That's a great slogan.

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He was an absolute showman and on the campaign trail, he would say things like, quote, if

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I win, the first thing I'll do is demand a recount.

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And he promised that if elected the first Jewish governor of Texas, he would reduce

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the speed limit to 54.95.

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I love it.

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I love it.

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I love it.

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I love this man.

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He's so hilarious.

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Holy shit.

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He's so funny.

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Oh, please don't tell me he's an anti-Semite.

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Let me believe this is great.

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No, from everything I can, I mean, there's-

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Because every time there's somebody great on this show, it always winds up being he's

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the only truly anti-Semitic Jew.

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I think all, I think that there is a, there's a little bit of a like, how much hay are you

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making out of your Judaism at the expense of Judaism?

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Not enough.

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And that's kind of like, that's not a question I can answer.

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I think he's hilarious.

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On the list of things that I'm going to care about really hard, how much hay Kinky Friedman

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made out of his Judaism?

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Way down there.

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I've tried to find like horrible things about him and I can't find all that much.

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If you accept that he had a band called Kinky Friedman and the Texas Jew Boys, you're fine.

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Yeah.

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You're going to go wrong.

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So he ran this campaign and it was really fun, full of witticisms and joie de vivre,

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but he ended up getting 12.6% of the vote coming in fourth out of six candidates in

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the Texas Governor race.

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That's a, that's a lot more than I kind of thought he would have gotten.

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Yeah.

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So although-

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That's Ross Perot levels of crazy, awesome, fun lunacy.

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Yeah.

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So although Kinky is a fun, ribald Texan, Alex should not like him.

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Absolutely not.

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Kinky is a very public about being friends with both Bill Clinton and George W. Bush.

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He wrote in an article in Texas Monthly about Clinton, quote, I was just minding my business

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one day seven years ago promoting my latest mystery novel at a book signing in Austin

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at Barnes and Noble.

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That's the greatest sentence I've ever heard.

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I had just told the crowd that the reading and signing were free, but there would be

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a two latte minimum.

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A guy came up to me and said, quote, sign one for the president.

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I didn't think the book was really going to Bill Clinton, so I signed one of my standard

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inscriptions, yours in Christ or see you in hell, and forgot about it.

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Little bit less fun.

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Two weeks later, the postmaster in Medina brought me an express envelope and said in

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an excited tone, Kinky, you've got a letter from the White Horse Saloon.

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You know that place in Nashville where they do all the line dancing?

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I looked at the envelope.

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It did not say White Horse.

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It said White House.

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Inside the envelope was a letter from President Clinton.

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And at the bottom he had written, I have now read all your books.

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Sure, please.

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I really need the laughs.

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And that was the beginning of a three-year pen pal relationship during which we discussed

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many things from foreign affairs to more metaphysical matters.

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And then Bill Clinton invites him to the White House.

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Tell me, tell me that Bill Clinton made foreign policy decisions based on Kinky Friedman's

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thoughts.

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Maybe.

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I don't know.

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So then about Bush, quote, I first met George W. Bush about four years ago at the Texas

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Book Festival.

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At the time he was just thinking about running for president and I was just thinking about

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having another Chavez Regal.

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This guy's great.

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I love this guy.

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He's a good writer too.

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I love Kinky Friedman.

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In a flash of misguided inspiration, I had taken Larry McMurtry's unclaimed name tag

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and slapped it on.

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In a matter of- This is great too.

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Fuck Larry McMurtry.

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In a matter of moments, people were coming up to me and telling me how much they admired

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my work.

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Not wanting to burst their bubble and fairly hammered by then, I played along.

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You've done so much for Texas, Mr. McMurtry, one lady told me.

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Love it.

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Thank you kindly, I replied.

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The governor, having witnessed this little exchange-

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What was it?

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What was he?

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A lonesome dove?

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He was a lonesome dove.

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He was the river book or- I don't know all his work.

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Walk two rivers or whatever it is.

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So George W. Bush eyes him quizzically at that point.

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Right.

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Look, governor, I said, McMurtry's a shy little booger.

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He'd never- Okay, keep going.

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He'd never do this for himself.

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I'm just helping the old boy out with a little PR.

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George W. Bush laughed and whispered something to several of his aides, leading me to believe

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I was soon to be 86th from the affair, but nothing happened.

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I asked one of the aides what he'd said and he told me the governor had said, I want that

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guy for my campaign manager.

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I love this.

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George W. Bush- This is one of the few moments of-

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Of pure joy I've ever experienced on this show.

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George W. Bush invites him to come to the White House, which he does.

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Of course.

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And so discussing his friendship with George W. Bush and Bill Clinton-

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He tells him about how Reagan got- Butt fucked?

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Butt fucked, yeah.

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I know.

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Discussing the friendships that he has with these two presidents.

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He says, quote, some might ask particularly in these days how the president can afford

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to maintain such a lighthearted friendship.

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The answer is, particularly these days, everyone needs a laugh and everyone needs a friend.

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Also, as early as 2005, Kinky was saying in interviews that he did not believe that rifles

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should be allowed with magazines higher than five.

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So he's friends with two globalist presidents and believes in gun control.

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But because he's famous, Alex is totally cool with him.

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Of course.

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And glosses past all of them.

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Star fucker defeats all of Alex's principles.

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Also just to be clear, his name is Kinky, but it's not meant to be a dirty thing.

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That's not about like sexual Kinky.

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I didn't care one way or the other.

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It was a nickname given to him in college because of his curly hair.

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Interestingly, his nickname was given to him by a guy named Chinga-

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George H.W. Bush.

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No, someone named Chinga Chavin.

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All right.

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Who would mysteriously- No.

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Also go on- No, you can't get cooler.

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Stop it.

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This person would also go on to be a parody country artist.

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No!

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They released an album called Country Porn- Nope.

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In 1976- I want to listen to this.

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Which was distributed by Penthouse.

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All right.

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It was a hundred percent through the mail- Give me everything.

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And sold a hundred thousand copies.

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Can you find this?

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I think you can.

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The album- The album included such songs as- This is one of the titles.

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All right.

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Come Stains on the Pillow- Yes, more!

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Parenthetically, the still title- Parenthetically, of course, of course, of

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course.

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Where Your Sweet Head Used to Be.

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One of the other titles.

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More!

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More!

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One of the other titles.

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Sit, Sit, Sit.

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And then in parenthesis, Sit on My Face.

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Yeah, that has to go down.

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And then his classic hit, which actually Kinky Friedman would go on to cover later, and probably

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still does if he ever performs, Asshole from El Paso.

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Oh, well that- Which is a take on-

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Okie from Muskogee by Merle Haggard.

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Yeah, that's a winner right there.

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So all this is to say that Kinky Friedman has lived an amazing life.

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Ah, man.

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Beautiful.

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Yeah.

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So at this point- Why do we even need to hear him talk?

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I just want that biography to live forever.

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Yeah, it's pretty great.

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That's beautiful.

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I don't think he really does anything to invalidate himself on this episode.

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He just shows up as like, yeah, fuck yeah, I think I'm gonna run for governor.

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And then just acts kind of like an asshole, but kind of a fun asshole.

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All right, I'm in!

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So in this first clip, we learn that he sells cigars.

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Ok.

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Listen, now I wish I had a cigar, an official cigar just made for Alex Jones with me on

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it, but Kinky actually has that, and in fact, even sells them.

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Tell folks about your love of cigars and your website, and then we'll get into the serious

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issues.

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Well, I think cigars are good.

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I always say cigarettes bad, cigar good.

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That's my message to young people.

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Cause science!

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And cigars are good for you, and they help you live longer.

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All right.

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All right.

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Not a great message, Kinky.

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Not a great Kinky.

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All right.

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So this...

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You know what?

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I'm still fine.

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I'm still fine with this.

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This sets the tone.

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As a smoker, I'm still fine with this.

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This sets the tone and leads us to this.

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You want to break the Austin Ordinance on here and smoke in here?

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We certainly could.

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It wouldn't bother me.

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I mean, what would happen, really?

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I don't think anything will happen.

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SWAT teams might come.

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Try it or not.

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Go ahead, sure.

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All right, we'll give it a shot.

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Oh, now we're being really rebellious and laying at the free home of the brave.

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Oh my god, I'll tell you, Alex, we're risk takers.

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Just thank god it's not a Cuban he's firing off here.

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We'd really be arrested.

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Well, this is a Cuban.

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That's the inside joke, you know?

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Yeah, but...

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Oh, boy.

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Yeah.

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So Kinky Friedman lights up a Cuban cigar on air.

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Kinky Friedman, not giving a shit.

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That's pretty great.

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So they talk a lot of nonsense about him running for governor again, because again, he ran

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in 2006.

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Now we're here in 2009.

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Can't stop.

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So they discuss police corruption a little bit.

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Put your mic down.

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Weird.

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Put your mic down.

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I'm weighing.

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This is so wild.

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Okay.

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This is buck wild.

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It's city by city.

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You've got bad cities and good cities on average, but I don't know, cops in Austin aren't planting

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drugs that I know of, but in Dallas, NPR even reported, the police admit it, they framed

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thousands.

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I mean...

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Here's one solution.

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Get a guy like Kinky Friedman in as governor who doesn't owe anybody and doesn't know anybody,

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okay?

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He wants a guy like Racehorse Haynes to head up an abuse commission.

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And this is a legacy for a guy like Racehorse.

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In other words, he doesn't need to do it.

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He's got plenty of money.

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He believes in justice.

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So he goes case by case, all through death row, all through Texas Youth Commission, through

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all of that, and empower these people.

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I don't want a commission giving me a report.

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He wants to put a guy named Racehorse in charge of police corruption.

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I agree with him.

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Racehorse Haynes.

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Racehorse has been on the wrong end of police corruption.

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I'll tell you that for sure.

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I love it.

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A guy named Racehorse?

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Come on.

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Look, Racehorse, this is a legacy position.

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Racehorse has had to bribe thousands of cops.

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He doesn't need this shit.

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Racehorse is there for pure reason.

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Racehorse has made his money.

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So we got Kinky and Racehorse.

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I don't know how he made his money.

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Holy shit.

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So fun.

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So fucking fun.

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Give me that government.

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Alex has no business.

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I think that government would probably be great, actually.

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Might be effective.

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I think it would be awesome.

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Yeah.

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So that's all we're going to listen to of Kinky's appearance, because most of it is

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really just like...

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He doesn't have any of his standard Mark Twain witticisms on the show, and it's mostly Alex

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just trying to impress him.

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Of course.

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It's a little sad.

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It's a little pathetic.

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Yeah.

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And he has to make time, because he has another guest this day, and that is a guy who does

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one of his bumper songs.

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It's a song, Thank God for the Renegades.

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All right.

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It's a...

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I don't know this song.

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You don't know it?

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No.

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I'm not going to play it.

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It's fine.

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Yeah, I don't think you should.

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It's an all right song.

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It's sort of an under the radar country song.

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But like sort of newish country.

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It's in that no man's land of not old rebel country.

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All right.

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I'll let it go.

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Come on, and this clip is fucking troubling.

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I live in Southern California most of the time, and I got so dang frustrated with illegal

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streaming across the border, and that was the year of the riots in Los Angeles and all

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that kind of stuff.

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And I got to a point where I couldn't sit silently anymore, and so I wrote a song from

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my heart called We Must Take America Back.

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And it just lit a firestorm when people heard it.

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It kind of dribbled out there on its own, and all of a sudden one of the big record

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companies out there wanted to put it out on a record and make it available nationally.

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And I was right.

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You know, it was zooming up the charts, got to number 56 or 52 on the Billboard country

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charts.

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It was the most requested song in the nation on country radio.

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The first few weeks it was out, but then a funny thing happened.

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Some of the most powerful, some of the most influential country radio stations in the

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big city said, hey, look, we don't care where it is on the charts.

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We don't care how many requests we get for it.

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We're not going to play it.

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Because we don't agree with it.

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And that was the end of my RCA career.

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Oh, man.

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It was RCA.

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That was who picked him up?

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He was screwed.

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He was screwed by the major labels.

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Alex ends up playing his song.

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We're not going to listen to it, but it made me...

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But it has to go, it has to...

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I'm disappointed in his delivery because it should be, I've been living in SoCal for a

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long time, and I got frustrated by all these illegals coming over.

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So I wrote a song about it, and it goes a little something like this.

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That's what it should have been.

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Do a live performance?

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Absolutely.

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You notice that he's like, I'm pissed off about these illegals coming over.

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Also that was the year of the riots.

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Who isn't?

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And the riots?

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Illegals.

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And so now I have to make a song called We Have to Take Our Country Back.

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From whom were you inspired to, oh, Mexicans and black people?

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Yeah.

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Oh, okay.

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Interesting.

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That's not fucked up at all.

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Strange.

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That's not fucked up.

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That's your motivation.

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So anyway, he wrote this song.

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So he's talking about the Rodney King riots.

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He wrote it while they're talking about police corruption.

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Because he wrote that in 1992.

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That's when that song came out.

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Right.

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Of course.

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So that's when he wrote We Must Take Our Country Back.

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Song reached number 68 on the country.

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So Alex Jones has made it clear that police are framing and murdering black people out

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of bullshit, racist reasons.

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Yet still having a guy on who wrote a song inspired by...

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He wrote a song about how cops should be allowed to beat up black people.

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We must take that back.

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Yeah.

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The song reached number 68 on the hot country charts, which leads me to believe it was never

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the most requested song.

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Almost 56.

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Because by definition, there's 67 songs ahead of it that people like more.

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Yeah, but they were requesting it.

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They didn't play it, though.

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So it didn't make the regular charts at all, but it's actually really interesting.

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This guy, Steve Vause, it's V-A-U-S, if you look into him, you find out that he does have

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four Grammy nominations to his name.

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Oh, that's nice.

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It's wild.

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But it's actually...

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Is he like a ghostwriter?

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Is he a songwriter?

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He has four Grammy nominations, but it's not to his name.

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It's under a stage name, Buck Howdy.

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His stage name is Buck Howdy?

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He actually won a Grammy in 2010 in the category Best Spoken Word Album for Children.

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All right.

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All right.

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Yeah.

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I'm in it so far.

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So he's still a country musician today, and if you go to his Squarespace site...

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BuckHowdy.com?

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No.

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I think it's stevevouse.com.

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Oh, that's disappointing.

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He refers to himself as a...

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Who has Buck Howdy?

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He probably is sitting on it.

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He refers to himself as a Grammy Award winner, hoping that people will just think it's because

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of his patriot country music, and not his I'm gonna talk to children as a Buck Howdy

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character.

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I assume it's like that.

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What was the...

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No, I didn't listen to any of this shit.

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All right.

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Now I gotta listen...

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How much shit do we have to listen to because of this show?

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We gotta listen to the entire Kinky Friedman catalog.

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That's gotta happen.

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We gotta listen to this...

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We gotta listen to this spoken word album.

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We gotta listen to Come on the Pillow or whatever.

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Absolutely gotta listen to Come on my Pillow.

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So this brings us...

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Parentheses where your head used to be.

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This brings us to the end of the show.

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And so what we see here is Alex having a racist musician on.

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Yep.

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One of the greatest people ever to come out of Texas, Kinky Friedman on.

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Absolutely.

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To smoke on air for no reason.

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Fantastic.

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But at the end of the day, what we see here is very clearly in 2009, he's concerned with

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globalists, but he has no interest in George Soros.

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He's very anti-military, very anti-cop, but at the same time does recognize that black

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people are getting a fucking raw deal.

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And all of these things change at some point.

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Weird.

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Yeah, very weird.

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Except for his star fuckery.

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No, that's consistent.

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That is always going to be there.

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And the dumb relying on him not understanding primary sources.

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The only way Kinky Friedman could have been better is if he did a like, I wrote a little

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song about this Infowars appearance.

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Or just told Alex to fuck himself.

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And it goes a little something like this.

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Infowars is bullshit.

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I'm sure his name sounds way better than that.

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Alex is a fuck face.

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All right, we gotta wrap this up.

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I gotta pee.

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All right.

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If you like our show, please go to our website, knowledgefight.com.

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You can follow us on Twitter at knowledge underscore fight.

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That's correct.

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We're on Facebook.

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You are also capable of finding us on iTunes.

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You have to search for the words knowledge and then fight.

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That's true.

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If you search K-N-O-W-L-E, we are the eighth thing that pops up automatically.

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Hell yeah.

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Stop vamping, I gotta pee.

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We're making it.

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All right, all right, all right.

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I think it's you.

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Oh, okay.

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It's you.

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You gotta pee.

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All right, Steve Vouse.

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Steve Vouse can go fuck himself.

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There you go.

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That guy wrote a fucking racist country song.

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Andy in Kansas.

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You're on the air.

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Thanks for holding.

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Hello, Alex.

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I'm a first time caller.

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I'm a huge fan.

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I love your work.

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I love you.