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Andy in Kansas, you're on the air, thanks for holding.
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Hello Alex, I'm a first time caller, I'm a huge fan, I love your work.
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I love you.
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Hey everybody, welcome back to Knowledge Fight, I'm Dan.
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I'm Jarden.
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We are a couple of dudes who like to sit around, oh boy, sit around, drink novelty beverages and talk a little bit about Alex Jones.
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And act as the most professional broadcasters in the history of Twitch.
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I am telling you what.
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Audio issues? No, never have them.
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We got a staff on that shit.
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It turns out I know nothing about audio settings, but I do know a lot about Alex Jones and you do not.
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I don't know anything about Alex Jones.
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And therein we find our fun, our dynamic and what have you. How are you doing today, Jarden?
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Uh, ooh, that's a, I don't know if you've ever done that before.
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I'm very on my heels.
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I don't know if you've ever asked me how I'm doing in our friendship, I don't know if that's ever happened.
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I'm very back on my heels because of these tech issues, I don't know what I'm doing anymore.
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I'm falling back to my freezing point tactics, which would be, I'd be sitting across from someone, how you doing?
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Hey, how about you vamp for a little bit?
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Let's see if that starts a conversation.
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I'll tell you this right now, having some trouble with my rent.
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Okay.
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That's not good.
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All right.
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Got somebody squatting in there illegally who I asked to do so.
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Oh, no, no, no, allegedly illegally.
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What? Oh, I didn't say anything.
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I didn't say anything.
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That's a good thing no one can hear us.
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Yeah, that's a good point.
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So this is a podcast.
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If we were famous enough for people to, for the people that I rent from to know who we are, we would also be famous enough for me to pay my rent on time.
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Yeah, that's a good point.
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So this is a podcast where we sit around and talk about Alex Jones.
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That is what we do.
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And today rent related issues.
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Sure, absolutely.
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Rent I know is too damn high.
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It is too damn high.
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So today is as we're recording this, it is November 27th, Cyber Monday.
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Yeah.
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Or also known as the day that Alex Jones announced he was going to do a 36 hour live marathon.
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We discussed it on our last episode.
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And he did.
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He did.
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He did.
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He is right now.
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As we speak.
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And I listened to Alex Jones's show during it and it was at every intention, the purest of heart intention to cover that.
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That was going to be what we covered on today's episode.
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Absolutely.
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But it was all fucking advertisements.
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That's not good.
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It was all commercials for products.
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And I just don't know how we cover that.
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You know, there was almost no content in it to the point where I was just like, I was getting mad at it.
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If we do that, eventually we're selling his product.
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Kind of, yeah.
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There was a part of it that was like, but I have one clip.
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In which case we should join his pyramid scheme.
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Might as well become part of Info Wars team.
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Yeah.
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I do have one clip from today and it was just a beautiful moment of irony.
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Because I turned on the live stream of his show and there was an ad before it.
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Of course.
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And it's very interesting to hear this ad and then the show start and see the juxtaposition of the two.
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Okay.
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Hey Chicago, the Amazon smart home experience is now available at a Kohl's in your neighborhood.
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I have harangued everybody around me to not use Amazon for years.
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We were off of Amazon for years.
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I turned it out.
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That's fantastic.
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What the fuck is going on?
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I love that.
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Yeah.
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That is great.
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Amazon is paying for advertisements on his broadcast.
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I don't know if I've ever seen anything happen that quickly as far as a sponsor getting shit on.
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Yeah.
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It was whiplash.
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That is crazy.
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Yeah.
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I was pretty blown away, but the rest of it was all just like completely boring ads.
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And we have no reason to talk about it.
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Uh, but, uh, I asked you Jordan earlier today, uh, never done this before.
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First time ever.
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I asked you to choose a day from history for us to go back to, to do a time travel episode
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for, uh, because again, I am not quite prepared to do that time travel episode that one of
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our policy walks has requested us do.
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And so I did and I picked a date and how did we go?
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Um, we went back to, you said December 21st of 2014.
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I meant to say December 17th or 18th.
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No, you might to say December 12th.
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That is when you might to say that is when, uh, the torture report of things you want.
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Oh, I transpose the numbers.
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Okay.
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That was, that was what happened.
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Your intention was to go back and see what Alex Jones had to say about the torture report.
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Uh, that came out that, uh, uh, I gave you a two year anniversary of when the world ended.
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Right.
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Yeah.
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Basically.
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Uh, and, uh, we're going to get to, uh, all the goings on.
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You accidentally stumbled onto a very amazing episode, uh, for a number of reasons.
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Very, very condescending of you.
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No, I mean, you had no way of knowing what's coming.
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I know, but it seems like I, uh, I chose a date that could possibly have had a good episode.
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It was an educated guess.
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I don't like the word accidentally.
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It's because the torture part is not really a big factor.
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Okay.
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It's the other stuff that makes it huge.
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All right.
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But before we get going, here is an out of context drop from today's episode.
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Like a lot of mistakes.
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I say stupid stuff sometimes.
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I mean, I hear my show rebroadcast and go, Oh my God, that sounds horrible.
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I don't mean that.
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Yeah.
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He just drops it that quickly.
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The number of times he said that on the air is staggering.
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Oh, I listened to this show and I'm like, Jesus, what kind of asshole would say that shit?
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I don't know that guy.
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Yeah.
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It's like, what?
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Get it together, Alex.
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Jesus.
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You can't just be that easy.
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Um, uh, I realized that we keep forgetting to give shouts out to policy walks, uh, and
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we might be doing it at the beginning of the show.
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This time we go.
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I'm hoping this will give my, uh, brow a chance to, uh, get some sweat off of it, dry this
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fucking thing off.
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Do the only thing that you're really good at.
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Exactly.
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Thanking people for giving you money.
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Right.
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Absolutely.
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We'd like to give a shout out to a couple of new policy walks.
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Uh, what's going on out there?
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Kelsey.
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I'm a policy wonk.
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Thank you for joining up with the team.
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Indeed.
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And also I know two nice Kelsey's and one Kelsey grammar.
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So you choose which you want to be.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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And if you choose wrong, you're going to fall off.
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Also like give a shout out to our other new policy walk.
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What's going on out there, Kyle.
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I'm a policy wonk.
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Thank you so much for joining up with the team.
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Yes.
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Thank you very much, Kyle and Kelsey.
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If you would like to because brother and sister, they might be twins.
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Not the same last name, but you never know.
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Oh, that's possible.
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Uh, it could be long lost, uh, twins.
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I don't know.
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Anyway, if you'd like to actually Arnold Schwarzenegger and Danny DeVito, there we are.
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If you'd like to become a policy wonk, you can do so by going to knowledge fight.com,
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clicking the sport, the show button.
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And maybe, uh, if we get enough policy wonks, uh, we'll get our sound fixed or I'll have
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enough time to run sound check before the episode or I'll be able to pay my rent.
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Yeah.
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Any of these things, any of these things are both impossible and delightful to imagine.
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Oh God.
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Okay.
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So here we are.
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Here we are.
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Here we are.
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Here we have come.
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Here we will be.
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All right.
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December 12th, 2014.
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D 12.
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Shit's going down on the 12th, 12, 12, 14.
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What is going on?
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I'll tell you what's going on.
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I don't know.
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That was a weird intro.
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Sorry.
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As the show starts, Alex Jones makes a very weird, uh, reference to his personal life
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that he almost never makes.
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Okay.
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Uh, and we'll see if you can catch what's going on.
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Ladies and gentlemen, we're live broadcasting worldwide.
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It is the 12th day of December, 2014 on this Friday edition.
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I'm your host, Alex Jones.
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Want to thank David Knight and the rest of the crew sitting in yesterday.
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I, uh, again have had family issues here and there that I've been taking care of, uh, that
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are all, uh, now coming into line quite nicely.
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Thanks to the good Lord above.
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And so that's why I've been missing a few days here and there.
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Um, but, uh, we'll make it up to everybody.
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We are live, ladies and gentlemen.
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How will you make up a divorce trial to everybody?
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Well, it's not a trial at this point, but it's the custody hearing at this point.
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No, it's, it's just the divorce.
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It's the 20 it's 2014.
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This is when he's getting divorced.
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This is when he's getting divorced.
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Right.
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So it's actually the separation and everything is what he's talking about.
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So when he gets remarried, that's when he's making it up to everybody.
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I guess.
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Yeah.
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I think that sounds right.
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Because his new wife is in her prime.
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So I always think that's kind of interesting.
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Uh, that, uh, you know, he never references that.
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He never talks about the divorce and stuff like that, except when he's getting super
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defensive about, I won.
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That sort of stuff.
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Right, right, right.
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And to be like, Oh, Hey, all right.
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Yeah.
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I look, no, there's family issues.
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Couldn't be in here yesterday.
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Cause I was busy getting divorced.
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Exactly.
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You know what?
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It's very clear.
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Signing some documents.
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She's yelling at me about that boat.
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And I'm like, I can't give you that boat.
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You can have the other, you can have the six other boats that I have, but God damn it.
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If I'm not keeping the info wash.
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Um, so Jordan, you, which is the name of his car wash probably.
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Yeah. Uh, for laundering purposes.
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So, uh, at, uh, on the 12th, the reason you sent me back to the 12th was because on December
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11th, uh, there was a report, uh, that came out about, uh, the CIA torturing people.
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Yeah.
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And John Brennan, John Brennan was, uh, sort of called to, uh, respond about that.
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Uh, and he gave a lackluster response.
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People weren't thrilled with it.
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Uh, and human rights.
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If I recall correctly, his response was, Hey, you know, some people do a thing.
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Some people don't do a thing.
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These things happen.
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It's not far off.
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Yeah.
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Uh, the UN human rights commissioner, uh, it was like, you got to fucking prosecute
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those people because that's fucking nuts.
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And then we did, and everything was better forever, right?
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We had to hand off control of Afghanistan's Bagram prison because of it.
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Yeah.
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We had a lot, there was a lot of mess.
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Yeah.
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Um, so you might be surprised to tune into Alex Jones's show and hear what his top story
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is.
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Where to start.
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Look at the front page of drudgereport.com.
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GOP-ers accuse leadership of breaking promises to kill the big spending bill.
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Why even the first lady's lunch program is funded.
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Oh, and the constituency is incredibly upset.
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Even Sean Hannity, who normally defends the system has come out and dubbed boner Boehner.
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I was calling him Joe Biden, Boehner last week.
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Well now Hannity's calling him John Gruber, Boehner or John Gruber's boner.
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I prefer Dave Gruber, Boehner.
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This, the naked trucker, this Boehner riff crushes it.
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It's going to go on.
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Why there's no way it can do that.
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It was bad to start with Joe Biden, Boehner, and he thinks that's fantastic.
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You know, Alex Jones, he likes to pick all the meat off a bone.
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Yeah, that's true.
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That's his comedic style.
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He knows good humor when he sees it.
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He's like this fucking comedy or is just coming out.
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This vein is not dry.
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We are just going to keep chipping away at the John Boehner's name sounds like boner.
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I think we're going to get it.
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Here we go.
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I mean, that is a pun really folks.
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You're supposed to pronounce that German name boner.
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Let's be proud of your family name.
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First round for Congress saying it's Boehner, not boner.
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We had to find that old TV ad from 20 something years ago.
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But Sean Hannity has slammed John Gruber's boner.
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He shouldn't be the speaker, John Boner Gruber.
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There we go.
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Conservatives tonight too.
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That's right.
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He did Gruber conservatives tonight or the American people.
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Most Democrats don't like Obamacare.
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Now in Gallup polls, it's a giant stinking fraud, a bipartisan criminal operation.
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You just had a major political realignment, the biggest Republican sweep in over a hundred
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years.
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What's going to happen if they don't perform and repeal it, which Mitch McConnell and John
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Gruber boner, that's very Gruber Boehner boner for sounds like a song or something.
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John Boehner or no, John Gruber Boner, five Boehner.
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His name is my name, too, because all of them are going to be seen as a bunch of Gruber
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rights that we're stupid.
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By the way, we are stupid.
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That was a very successful bit.
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First of all, great bit.
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Second of all, that might be the first time that I have strategically edited to end the
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clip right where he says we are we are stupid.
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What he says, by the way, we are stupid.
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We are stupid if we go along with this.
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I just decided to cut that out for fun and then call myself out on it because I'm not
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an asshole.
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Um, but I mean, yeah, sure.
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All right.
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So Boner, right.
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This is just after the midterm election.
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That's all I've established here is that he thinks it's funny to say Boner, which he's
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not wrong.
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He's not wrong.
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Yeah, he's not wrong.
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Sure.
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Facts of life prove that right.
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Right.
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This is immediately after the growing pains.
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Now, probably.
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Oh, yeah, it was growing pains.
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Yeah.
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That was an acceptable thing, then crazy times.
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This is right after the November elections that gave us the Republican majority that
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we are currently dealing with.
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Yes, it was just after the midterms in 2014.
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December 12th, 2014.
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Alex, what will happen if they don't successfully repeal Obamacare?
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I can't think of anything.
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Escalation?
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I think so.
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Yeah, it seems like that is the play.
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Everyone will be disappointed to discover that they don't actually care and will not
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punish their politicians for failing them.
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And the only thing that they really ask them to do.
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Yeah, absolutely.
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So that's his top story is that John Boehner's name is funny and that there's a spending
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bill that they didn't the Republicans didn't stop with their supermajority.
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They had to fund the government.
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We'll get into that after this next clip.
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Horrific.
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Some of the stories up on Infowars.com.
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House passes government funding bill with bankster derivative bailout provision bigger
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than the banker bailout of 2008.
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By the way, Kurt Nemo's headline is excellent and it's very accurate.
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He does a great job focusing on that, but it's not even bad enough.
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The headline is not even horrible enough.
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It should be house passes banker bailout derivatives bill bigger than OA because it
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is bigger.
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It's unlimited, unlimited power to bankrupt the country, to quote Emperor Palpatine.
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Don't think he said that's our quote.
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I don't think so.
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We're trying to save the country and the globalist, the Federal Reserve say no, no, no, you will
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die.
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You will sign on to everything.
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Everything is proceeding as David Rockefeller has foreseen it.
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It's Friday.
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It's like I'm worked up.
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So just to keep track of house sales, alliteration of assholes army is what he just did.
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Yeah, this he's talking about an article from Kurt Nemo, who is a guy who worked for Infowars,
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who has since come out and said very clearly that Alex Jones is a fraud and been very.
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Yeah, he's not going to appreciate Kurt Nemo later on in life.
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No, he's very, very against him now.
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And you know what this spending bill, you know, the context of it.
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Yeah, the government shutdown.
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Yeah.
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Yep.
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Ted Cruz, that motherfucker tried very hard to ruin the world with damaged the GOP reputation
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so that even though they had a super maturity, everybody hated them so much, specifically
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Ted Cruz, who would later come second in many primaries.
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That's how much they hated him.
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Yeah, so they passed a one point one trillion dollar spending omnibus spending bill.
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Right.
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But Democrats are now opposing several last minute provisions, including one that would
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repeal a key rule in the Dodd-Frank financial reform bill that limits risky trades by federally
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insured banks.
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Huh.
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Boy, it sure seems like the Republicans are trying to get rid of the Dodd-Frank bill.
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Because they did.
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I can't think of any reason that they would get rid of the Dodd-Frank bill, considering
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that they represent the people in their districts who just care about prosperity.
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Right, right, right.
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And just, you know, getting back to Americana.
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I don't understand why they would try to destroy a bill that actually protects those people
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from predatory lenders.
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Because that's that you don't understand prosperity.
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It's mostly don't understand.
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Mostly about banks taking risks with your money.
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Oh, OK.
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That's how real prosperity comes.
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Shouldn't they tell me, though, when they're doing that?
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Oh, no, no, no, no.
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Oh, they shouldn't tell me that.
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Prosperity is more fun if it's a surprise.
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OK.
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That might be true.
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Well, you know, I mean, the revolution was a surprise.
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It's a surprise to all of us.
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A lot of people were caught off guard by 1776.
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So what do you got a problem with?
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Which seemed also to be about occasionally being taxed too much.
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Right.
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Maxine Waters, Elizabeth Warren, both were incredibly vocal in their opposition to these
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last minute additions that Republicans snuck through in.
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And so when Alex is talking about the spending bill, all this stuff, the real dangerous parts
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of the Republicans and the real dangerous parts of the things that the Republicans,
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who he's lauding, put in there.
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Yep.
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And I don't know.
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He can always pretend that he's not a Democrat.
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He's not a Republican.
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I'm bipartisan.
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But he he celebrates a lot when Republicans win.
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Oh, oh, really?
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Yeah.
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And I don't know.
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I can't think.
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I don't know if it's just an anti Democrat thing or if he's
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just full of shit.
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I think he's full of shit.
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And I think he's anti Democrat.
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Could be six one half a dozen of another.
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Yeah.
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Anyway, let's get on to this next clip, because Alex brings up another employee of his.
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This is right after a video package that's real, like fast cuts, things taken out of
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context with really swelling, dramatic music.
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We get Nancy Pelosi.
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Not Nancy Pelosi, but Eric Holder.
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Nancy Pelosi wasn't nearly on his like his shooting board at this point.
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All right.
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But Eric Holder is in there.
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Obama like.
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Well, of course, Obama saying something like, let's feed people.
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And then he's got a horror movie soundtrack in the back.
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Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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Video, not just on prison planet TV, but up on Infowars.com right now.
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Rob Jacobson produced that little two minute jewel of awakening and truth Veritas.
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He can name it whatever he wants.
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Let's make a top video Infowars.com YouTube channel.
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Funny story, a long name for that.
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Rob Jacobson has also left Infowars and has also spoken out very publicly about how Alex
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is an asshole.
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Interesting.
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And he he if I recall correctly, he was who Alex turned to for backup in the David Duke
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interview, who he also failed in debating David Duke.
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OK.
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And has gone on to say, I mean, I certainly don't agree with him in this, but he's like,
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Alex will never touch Israel.
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That sort of stuff.
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That's why he gotcha.
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Gotcha.
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That was the one he's in.
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There we go.
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He's in that brand.
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I was going to say I was worried that he actually went to the side.
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That makes sense.
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No, OK.
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It does not seem like it, but it's just another example.
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Everybody he's bringing up back then no longer there and does not like him.
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Right.
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So that's fun.
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But you know what?
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Alex has some weird allegiances back in 2014 that you would never expect.
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You already heard him say something negative about Sean Hannity, who's his best friend
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now, apparently.
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Listen to what is he friends with Mugabe?
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Because the future is not going to hold well for him.
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No, he's not.
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If he's banking on Mugabe, he's going to be in trouble.
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He's not pimping for Mugabe.
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But this this this clip is interesting as hell.
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Krauthammer is really smart and he's a conservative intellectual.
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He doesn't just throw out buzzwords all day like a Hannity does.
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I don't agree with some of the stuff Krauthammer pushes sometimes, but he's light years better
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than a Sean Hannity or these these mainline rhino Republican talk show hosts that just
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support the police state, the drug war, the giant prisons, no matter what.
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Police brutality, no matter what.
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We try to look at both sides and actually be fair.
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No, you don't.
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Not at all.
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So like, OK, I get that Sean Hannity hadn't morphed into a hey, we're on the same team
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guy at that point.
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He was still a corporate Fox News guy.
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That begs into question.
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What happened to Hannity?
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Is Hannity...
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I think he saw what was happening to Alex.
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Well, but but I mean more like was Hannity a secret Alex Jones this whole time?
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He was as crazy.
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He was always as crazy.
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Yeah, because if you listen to his radio show, it was a lot wilder.
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Oh, his radio show is fucking bananas.
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I don't mean wild in terms of like saying stupid shit like Alex, but it was wild in
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the sense of like he was he was really unprofessional.
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He was a dick.
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He was really mean to everyone.
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I used my grandfather forced me to listen to a good hour or two of Hannity while I was
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watching him and ushering him into the great beyond.
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And if it had kept me from listening to Hannity, I would have been like, go an hour a couple
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earlier.
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Get gone.
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Yeah, get.
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Yeah, Hannity is Hannity makes you want to kill your grandfather.
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So Hannity sucks, but it's interesting to hear Alex say positive things about fucking
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Charles Krauthammer.
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Oh, don't you love the way his turtle head just kind of retracts into everything whenever
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he gets challenged?
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I'm not talking.
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I don't want to talk personal shit.
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I don't want to talk appearances.
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I'm not here to neck shame anybody.
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I mean, it would be hard not to neck shame him.
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Just saying his name is neck shame.
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Here are some reasons Alex can. No, Alex can not say he supports or agrees with Charles
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Krauthammer.
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So many reasons Krauthammer supports abortion.
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Yeah, that's number one.
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Number two, he believes in evolution and rejects the idea of intelligent design.
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Hard not to.
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He also supports higher taxes to support environmental causes.
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It makes sense.
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And energy conservation.
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Right.
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Also, this is the big one.
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He emphatically supports embryonic stem cell research using tissue from abortion, which
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Alex is what's wrong with that?
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I think nothing.
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Alex thinks they're harvesting babies and making chimeras.
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Well, yeah, that's his big thing.
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But you got to have you got to come at it from both sides.
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You got to give both sides credence.
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That's why he likes to listen to Charles Krauthammer.
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Because Krauthammer is going to be like, hey, Alex, that's fucking stupid.
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And he's going to be like, hey, Krauthammer, you've got a lot of good ideas, not like
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that dumb ass Hannity over there.
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Who agrees with me that they're creating chimeras?
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Yeah, and will be a great ally in two years.
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Yeah, two years.
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Once we have our demon candidate.
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Yeah, once you guys come to me, Krauthammer, you're gone.
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Once the rip in the reality veil becomes big enough, I will go to Sean Hannity and we will
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come together as some sort of globular alt media and professional media.
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Two headed, blah.
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Right.
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When we get forced into the dark timeline by a Mixlepixie.
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Yeah, Mr. Mixlepicks.
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Yeah, and we have to say his name backwards before we can get into the timeline where
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Bernie won.
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Like, I don't know.
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I don't know.
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I don't know.
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Anyway, Alex is fucked up.
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That makes no sense for his philosophy and for anything.
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Yeah, but his hubris back then, or as he would pronounce it, hubris back then knows no bounds.
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Listen to this fucking sales pitch for a second, and then I'll come back on the other side
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and tell you exactly what he's asking of his listeners.
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Another key, pray for this operation.
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We're praying for America and the rest of the world and you as well.
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We need those prayers.
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That's number one.
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But secondarily, support our local AM and FM affiliates, become sponsors, become supporters
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of local sponsors, call the station up and say, I want to pay for a billboard to promote
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the Alex Jones show.
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That's how we're going to take this country back.
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We're so close, folks.
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We're so close.
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I want to pay for a billboard.
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Yeah, that's an interesting thing to call your AM FM radio station with.
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So do you know about billboard pricing?
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I don't know about billboard pricing, so I just saw three billboards, three billboards
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in Ebbing, Missouri, and they said five thousand dollars a month for three billboards.
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That's pretty close.
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Yeah, very small towns.
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Yes, that like outside of Milwaukee, you can get one for about four thousand dollars a
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month, three to four thousand dollars a month.
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I mean, that's not terrible, right?
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Now you bump it up to a city like San Diego, right?
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Which is not even a large market.
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I mean, it's big, but it's not like L.A.
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or the big market that's going to run you probably about ten to fifteen thousand dollars
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a month.
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Still reasonable if you get a return on your investment.
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Now you go to like Boston, let's say Boston.
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I don't go to Boston urban urban area, metropolitan city to get a billboard.
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It can run you up to twenty three thousand dollars a month for a billboard.
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Yes.
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Damn, because high traffic areas.
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Yeah, it's it's all about how many eyes get on stuff.
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It's all about impressions.
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How much would it cost us to get a billboard in Chicago?
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A lot.
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What are you thinking?
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At least that twenty thousand dollars.
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You're thinking like closer to thirty, right?
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Yeah, probably.
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I feel like Boston and Chicago are probably pretty close in terms of that.
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Maybe a little higher, but probably in the ballpark.
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All right.
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So that's I mean, geez.
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So we're going to have to do a thirty six hour live stream to get twenty three thousand.
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Call in and say you want to pay twenty thousand dollars for a billboard or conservatively
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ten thousand dollars for a book.
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Call Clear Channel.
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I know that it's too expensive to buy my wet herbs, but buy a billboard.
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Buy a billboard.
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What the fuck?
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Buy a billboard.
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Hubris.
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Hubris.
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Yeah, that's nuts.
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So we're maybe like half an hour into his broadcast at this point.
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Right.
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Buy a billboard.
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And he finally decides to get into the torture stuff.
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Yes.
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We're going to go hard on it.
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He's got a lot of articles.
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He's really going to get into the issue.
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He might have a stack.
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He's got a stack.
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But you know, that doesn't mean anything.
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Doesn't mean much.
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Here is Alex Jones's take.
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Look at this report by Washington's blog up on Infowars.com.
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The media is focusing on the wrong Senate torture report.
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The big story torture.
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Everyone is missing.
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Oh, I'm in.
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What do we got?
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I agree with his report.
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It gets into the Armed Services Committee of 2009 that details the systematic widespread
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torture across the board.
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But that's not even as bad as the torture report from 2000.
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I think it's 2007 or eight.
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General Tagumbu report.
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Oh, no.
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Torture report.
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He's the Filipino American general.
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Three star general that did.
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It's Taguba.
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Did that investigation.
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And that was the real one where they admitted the raping children with large objects dripping
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with acid in front of their parents in Iraq and places killing people.
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Non terror related.
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Just just just demons being hired.
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Now, the military was ordered to hire former federal prison guards who had records on purpose.
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Rape, you name it.
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So that's what I mean.
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The Feinstein reports a whitewash.
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So this whole thing that you have sent us back in time is apparently a whitewash.
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Yep.
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And a couple of things did not realize that it's not Tagumbu or whatever.
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It's Taguba.
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It's Antonio Taguba.
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And here's the thing about that.
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He has the date slightly off.
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He said it was 2007, I believe.
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Yeah, it was 2004 that he did a report and it did not entail anything about children
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being raped with things dipped in acid in front of their parents.
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Are you sure?
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Yeah, I'm positive.
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Did you read it?
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Yes, I did.
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Have you talked to Taguba?
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I have not talked to Taguba.
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OK.
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Have you talked to Tagumbu?
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I have.
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Yeah.
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Oh, there you go.
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There it is.
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It's a different guy.
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You just don't do your research, Dan.
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This is what bothers me.
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You have a stack of articles about Taguba.
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Nothing about Tagumbu.
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Yeah.
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Oh, shit.
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I blew it.
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Yeah.
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Where did that voice come from?
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I don't know.
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It was my Tagumbu voice.
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Your Tagumbu voice is, I blew it.
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The closest thing I could find is there are reports that General Taguba got that he was
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not able to substantiate, but he viewed as credible based on the circumstances, that
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people might have been sodomized with a fluorescent light or something along those lines.
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That's fucked up.
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Which is horrifying, but that's not quite children getting raped with things dipped
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in acid in front of their parents.
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Alex is sensationalizing this quite a bit.
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It's not that far off.
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No, and it's a stupid place to draw a line, quite frankly.
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I mean, I'm not on anybody's side there.
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There's not a winner that I want to back in this race.
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I'm not either.
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But in terms of Alex being a reporter, in terms of him actually telling you things,
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he's failing at that.
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Oh, he's very bad at that.
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But the other thing, this is the most important piece.
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So Taguba's report came out in May of 2004.
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Amnesty International put out their report about Abu Ghraib in June of 2003.
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So his report came out even after the atrocities that were reported in Abu Ghraib were already
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being reported.
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So a lot of the stuff that's in there is just, I have substantiated that detainees told me
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these things happened, which had already been reported.
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But Alex would never want to give it up for Amnesty International or something like that.
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So isn't it weird that 2014 is when this episode happens?
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We've all known at this point that America is torturing people nonstop for 11 years.
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And we're like, whoa, whoa.
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Brennan.
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Well, maybe not 10 years.
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Don't agree with us.
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Right.
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You're supposed to lie so we feel less complicit in the atrocities that are being committed
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in our name.
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Yeah, it's really fucked up.
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But Alex, I would think that his position on it would be, I guess this is pretty close
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to what I would expect his position to be.
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I would expect it to be a little different, though, because I would expect it to be gloating.
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Yeah.
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But I would also expect it to be gloating with like, and now here's all the times I've
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told you and here is, you know, me breaking the story way before and all that instead
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of dismissively being like Taguba, I'm sorry, Tagumbu.
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Um, I my my thoughts on what he would think based on his love of Blackwater now is, yeah,
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we're torturing people.
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That's how we should be doing it.
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I don't think he likes Blackwater at this point, because he doesn't know that Eric
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Prince is a Trump supporter.
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I'm talking about now.
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Oh, yes.
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Now, if you're if you're a huge fan of Blackwater now, I assume that you have loved torture
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since you saw your first episode of 24.
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I'll tell you this.
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Alex is not a fan of torture, which I support.
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All right.
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I give him.
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Does he know what we're doing now with the Trump regime and how we're killing like three
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times the number of civilians all around?
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They're emboldened to torture.
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And then the privatized army is just going buck wild.
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Every report that we get out of that is just they are just fighting a total war and burning
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people alive.
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It's not good.
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Who are you?
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The Washington Post.
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Fake news.
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OK, fair enough.
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A shout out to Project Veritas doing the Lord's work.
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I don't know if you saw this.
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I know everyone's seen the story that The Washington Post put out about Project Veritas
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trying to trick them with a fake sting operation about Roy Moore.
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But I don't know if everybody's seen the videos that Project Veritas rushed out to try and
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get ahead of it, because they knew this story was going to come out because they got reached
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for comment.
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Yeah, that is so funny.
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If you're and I imagine that they got reached for comment in the middle of trying to screw
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that shit.
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Like, OK, you guys are you guys are trying to trick us.
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Can you tell me some things about that so we can print it?
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Yeah.
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So can we go off the record?
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I want to be anonymous.
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James O'Keefe rushed out some videos and it's like behind the scenes talking to people at
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Washington Post.
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Yeah.
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And it's so much nothing.
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Yeah.
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It's astounding how little there is there.
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And he's like, oh, well, this is the real truth.
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This is American Pravda.
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The worst thing that he's got is somebody from the paper from The Washington Post saying
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that the editorial board doesn't like Trump.
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It's like that's the editorial board.
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I think that's pretty I think that's pretty solid.
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It's also not the news writers.
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I don't think there are a lot of editorial board.
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I don't think there are a lot of editorial boards that don't like that like Trump.
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I think there are few.
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Yeah.
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Um, so anyway, it's all a bunch of hot nonsense.
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But also in the wake of all this, it is very important to remember that a few years back,
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Donald Trump did give James O'Keefe $10,000 from one of his foundations.
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Really?
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Yeah.
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So interesting to remember.
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And that will come back up at the end of this episode in a really weird way.
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All right.
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But be that as it may.
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I love it when you bookend things.
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I told you Alex Jones is against torture.
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He is against torture.
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Now, in this time period, when Obama is doing.
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I don't think he's actually against it now still to disagree.
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Uh, it depends on what you mean by truth, because he's against it.
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Yeah.
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And to be fair to him, when he's critiqued Trump, one of the things he consistently says
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or has said, especially in the early days of his presidency was, I don't like where
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he stands on torture.
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I think it's wrong.
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That sort of thing.
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It's one of the only things that he would point out that I think Trump's wrong on this
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one.
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Yeah.
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Generals are misleading him and stuff like that.
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So I think on some level he actually does understand that torture is bad.
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All right.
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But this next clip, I think understanding and being against your different things.
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This next clip tells me that Alex has an incredibly weird take on torture as a whole.
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And I don't really I don't really know what's going on in this clip.
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OK, I really don't.
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All right.
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I mean, I've been in the parking lot before and seen some guy haul off and punch a woman
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in the face.
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And I've gone over and said, you better stop that right now.
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What the hell is your problem?
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They've got to my face.
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And I said, listen, about that time, people were calling the cops.
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I was like 20 years ago.
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And it wasn't because I'm a hero.
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I don't like seeing some big guy punch a woman in the eye and give her a black eye at an
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instinctive level.
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That's just not right.
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Yeah.
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The one thing, if she had him or something, you know, that would be a thing of passion.
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But guys beating up women in an instinctive level, I don't like that.
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So I think of my mother, I think of my daughters.
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But before I had daughters, I instinctively don't like women being messed with.
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I have that instinctive thing to protect women and children.
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That's what men are for.
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That's what we do.
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You're not a man if you don't want to do that.
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But I mean, I guarantee you, if I meet more men, there's been a lot of cases that you
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read about the news where a dad opens the door and some 40 year old guys raping his
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10 year old son, the dad kills him and they don't even indict him, much less having grand
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jury non-bill him.
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Everybody gets that.
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Everybody gets that?
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Fine.
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Leave it aside.
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But here's what I need.
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I need you to track the thought.
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I really need because he's talking about crimes of passion right now.
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Yeah.
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And the idea that like you just go red and you kill somebody or whatever.
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Yeah.
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Keep that in mind.
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I swear he's going to try and relate this to torture.
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Is he going to pull this off?
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He's not.
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But he.
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Is he flying a little bit low?
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Is he in a tailspin right now?
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Pull up.
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Pull up.
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Get out.
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Alex.
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Get out.
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Throttle.
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Just pull the throttle.
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Porkins.
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No.
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There was a case just north Austin that happened a few years ago.
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Last this year, I think.
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And the dad beat the guy to death.
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There's been cases where a drunk driver runs over somebody's kid right in front of their
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house.
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The dad sees their dead son.
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All those other Texas case goes and gets his gun, kills him.
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Grand jury doesn't indict.
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That's not torture.
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That's not when you beat somebody to death and want them to hurt.
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You're hurt.
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So torture is natural in the moment in the passion where you've caught the person.
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You know, they've done it and you're going to bash their brains out.
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And in the moment you have that killer instinct, you're not enjoying it.
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But it's like stepping on a cockroach.
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You have the energy and the will to just sit there and throw their head up against a wall
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or smash it with killer force.
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Most people have a governor.
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They just they decide to not kill.
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They decide to not slam that head down hard enough where it breaks open.
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You can do it.
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You just decide you die and you can kill them.
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That's how the real world works.
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What?
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So there's this tough guy instinct that gets misapplied by, you know, they hit us on 9-11.
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Go ahead and torture them.
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You can't have a big, nasty government do that because it'll do it for fake confessions
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and it'll do it to you.
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That's why you don't do it.
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Not because we're wimps and well, why do the Russians and the Chinese do it?
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Well, because they're barbarous countries that never got reformed.
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You got freedom in Russia?
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No, we're losing ours here now.
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And they're promoting torture and spying and everything else.
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And Russia is trying to reform itself.
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But Western pressure isn't letting it do it.
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It's interesting.
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We'll unpack all of that, but it's really interesting at the end there.
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He's like in Russia, they don't have any freedom.
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Oh, shit.
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What?
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I got to save this.
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Russia is trying to do better because of us.
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Yeah, they don't have any freedom because we're stopping them.
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It's our fault.
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Oh, shit.
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Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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I'm sorry.
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I'm sorry, Putin.
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I'm sorry.
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Oh, shit.
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So clearly, this indicates to me that in December of 2014...
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He still wasn't completely turned.
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But Alex has also been debriefed by the Russian intelligence agents by this point.
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I think we can push that date back to 2014.
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Um, I don't think that's conclusive.
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I don't think that's a conclusive thing right there.
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I don't give a shit.
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I don't give a shit what you think.
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Fair enough.
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I'm standing by it.
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This is what happens when you torture me before the show,
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and we wind up getting audio issues.
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Listen, it was a crime of passion.
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So that's fucked up.
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I don't know what he thinks torture is.
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I know he's against what...
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I think he's just against false confessions.
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I agree with...
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I mean, I'm against it too.
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Right.
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No, I think that's what he's really doing.
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You should talk to Trump about the Central Park Five.
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Yeah, no shit.
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Fuck me.
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Or any number of people.
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Um, so I think he's against torture for the wrong reasons.
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Well, I mean...
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Or at least a right reason, but he's fine with it in certain circumstances.
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I mean, it deprives you of your humanity,
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and it deprives the person who you're torturing of their humanity.
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That's probably the biggest reason.
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And I would love for everyone to operate on that principle.
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But if you can't, and don't torture people because it doesn't work,
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if that's all you got, I'll take it.
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If that's the best you can do, I'll, yeah.
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If it leads to you not torturing people or advocating for people not torturing, hooray.
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Yeah, I think that's good.
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It's very elemental, or elementary.
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Right.
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It's very much in terms of...
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You know, there's just...
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In the same way there's emotional maturity and intellectual maturity,
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there's like moral maturity.
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Yeah.
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There's like, you know, just going by golden rule kind of stuff.
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It's sort of a really basic level,
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and then principles get built in as you get older
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and you start to live by principles.
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And then eventually you get to the point where you live by principles that must be true.
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Like the opposite could not be true.
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And Alex is operating on very, very childlike adolescent moral ideas.
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And then also just equating torture with beating someone to death
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because they drunkenly killed your kid in a car accident.
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That one's weird.
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Very much.
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And also that's not a crime of passion if you go and get your gun.
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Also, it seems as though he wants to bash somebody.
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Like he's describing something that he's done where it's like,
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I could have killed that guy.
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Well, no, no, totally.
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Yeah.
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That moment...
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He's describing exactly that.
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That moment that everyone has a governor, you just turn it off.
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You die.
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Ha!
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Yeah.
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That's very real.
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At least the feeling.
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That was creepy.
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I'm not saying he's killed anyone, but that feeling...
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I'm not saying he's killed anybody.
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I'm saying that he thinks he stopped himself from killing somebody.
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Definitely.
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Yeah.
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He thinks he could have killed a lot of people.
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Don't fucking play games.
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He's literally said that on the show before.
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That's true.
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That is true.
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Jordan.
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Yes.
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Yes, Dan.
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You know how I told you at the beginning of the show...
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Also, I think he was referencing the movie The Way of the Gun.
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Probably.
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Where Sarah Silverman gets punched in the parking lot.
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Oh, probably.
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He probably just watched that after he smoked his one weed of the year.
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Great movie.
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It's a great movie.
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I love it.
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Ryan Philippi, Benicio del Toro.
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Big fan.
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Good.
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Sarah Silverman.
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She's great.
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I don't like the getting punched part.
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Although she's great.
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She's great.
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Jordan.
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Yeah.
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This is the end of his coverage of the torture.
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So he nailed it.
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Yes.
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With that...
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And then just decided we can move on.
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With that rambling two and a half minutes, he's like,
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check that off the list.
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I crushed it.
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Now, I told you at the beginning of the episode...
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Editorial?
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Why?
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Why?
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I can sum up torture in two words.
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Punch.
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Don't.
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It's pleasurable, but don't do it.
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Yeah.
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I told you at the beginning of the show here today that you accidentally picked a perfect episode.
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Yeah.
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I will tell you why.
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There's two reasons.
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And one of them is that my favorite crazy comes in.
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No!
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Why?
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Daryl Hamamoto.
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Okay.
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God damn it.
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How did that happen?
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Yes!
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UC Davis professor, Daryl Hamamoto.
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I gave you Christmas.
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I saw...
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I opened it up.
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I started listening to it.
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I was like, oh, fuck yeah.
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And I will say this.
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It's not his best showing.
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Oh.
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It's not...
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It's not, I wanted to pick my gayest instrument to go infiltrate Occupy Wall Street.
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That's a solid one.
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Not that kind of Hamamoto, but he does say some stuff that's really great.
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Okay.
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Also, this bums me out, because he's like calling in from his pretty small apartment
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and, you know, whatever.
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It is what it is.
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Yeah.
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But through the interview, you can hear like trucks, like really loud interfere.
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Like it's clear that he lives, you know, not a...
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He's a man of modest means.
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But he shouldn't be.
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He's a tenured professor at UC Davis.
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Maybe he does it on purpose.
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There are many people who are saving up their money to buy even gayer instruments.
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That's absurd.
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So here is our first clip of my boy, Daryl Hamamoto.
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And in this clip, he compliments and then insults another one of Alex Jones's guests.
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Okay.
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All right.
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And he would be there teaching professors and PhD students how to lie.
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He's talking about Jonathan Gruber.
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It's not important.
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Dave Gruber, Alan.
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Yeah.
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And how the world really works.
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So I guess you get a PhD now, according to him, to learn the inside baseball of pure
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BS.
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And whereas that always went on from what I've seen in some special PhDs in the last
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100 years in this country, in England and Germany, it wasn't like they'd get on C-SPAN
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and brag about it.
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So it does show really the arrogance, the arrogance of how stupid they think we are.
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It's arrogance.
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And I was listening to one of your earlier interviews this week.
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I forgot who the guest was, but he referred to it as a narcissism.
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A lot of these high ranking military.
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That's Dr. Steve Pacenik.
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Yeah.
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Dr. Steve Pacenik.
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Great, great mind.
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Great intelligence and great analyst.
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And I really enjoy listening to him.
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His fiction is not so great.
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Political analyst.
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You know, I read everything.
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I check into all your guests.
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That's great.
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Okay.
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Hamamoto, you're crazy.
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All right. Okay.
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Pacenik writes fiction?
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He's supposed to have been the ghost writer or collaborator for Tom Clancy's books.
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Oh, that's right.
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So he must be shitting on Clancy.
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Clancy, you know, Clancy's got some good...
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He's farmed out most of the writing of his books after the first three.
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Hamamoto is nuts.
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Hamamoto is right.
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No, he's not.
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All right.
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He says Steve Pacenik is a great thinker.
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He's a great analyst.
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That we have quabbles on.
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Yeah.
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I bet his fiction sucks.
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I have no idea.
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I've never read it.
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I would like to read...
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Well, if it's latter-day Tom Clancy, it sucks.
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I would like to read some of Matt Bracken's books at some point.
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That's on my list of summer reading.
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Is that...
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Some of my beach reading.
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Did you email Hamamoto with like a recommended list?
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I mean, he's a professor.
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He's got to know what's up.
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He's got to know something.
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Oh, he knows something.
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How to hide your guns.
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No, no, he doesn't know that.
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Where to keep your gayest instruments.
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He doesn't know that.
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Yeah.
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Um, hideyourgayinstruments.com.
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It's right next to your guns.
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We got a book.
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We got a book on hiding gay instruments.
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So, um, I told you that Hamamoto knows something.
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Yeah.
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In this next clip.
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What does Hamamoto know?
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There's an elaborate conspiracy that he is going to lay out in this next clip.
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And I would like to point out that the way he sets it up, even from the beginning,
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uh, he's discussing what he tells professors to try and get them to wake up, to red pill them,
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or whatever.
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Even in his own conception, he's talking about corporations trying to screw over people's
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pensions, not globalists.
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So hold on.
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We'll get to that on the other side after he makes his case.
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That is rambling and nonsensical.
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Okay.
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My favorite crazy.
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So what I have done in order to, uh, get them into the tent, so to speak, is to bring to
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their attention that, uh, their security is an illusion, their retirement, their pension,
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the UC investment fund has been eyed hungrily by the wolves of wall street for many years
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now.
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And they're just waiting for an opportune time to go in there for the kill.
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They're kind of circling the prey right now.
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They're taking their pulse.
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But once I make my colleagues aware that this is their strategy and they have Janet
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Napolitano in place there, and they've got the MRAPs and the militarized camps is there
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in case there's any sort of dissent.
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And they have the students bought off and their little ethnic identity politics, uh,
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going on.
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They've got them nicely balkanized and segregated like the old city of Rome.
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Precisely.
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We have all the different, uh, factions and perpetual attention and they bring in, uh,
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so, um, the, when he talks about the weaponized campus, he's talking about the like electromagnetic
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rays and stuff like that, that they're shooting through the air and stuff like that.
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He was doing so good.
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Yeah, he was doing so great.
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He's not your pension is going to be taken by wall street.
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They've been eyeing it for a long time.
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They aren't going to enforce it with militarized camps though.
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That's where I campus.
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Oh, okay.
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I thought he said militarized camps.
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No, I don't believe so.
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And also it's not, uh, it's not, uh, it's not weaponized students.
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No, it, well, I mean, it is because they have these, uh, you remember, he has that antenna
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theory that there are all kinds of, uh, rays that are going around the campus, why he's
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suing Janet Napolitano, right?
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And, uh, Linda Katehi is going to come back up in a second, but also the, the very idea
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that wall street wants these pensions and shit like that.
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I mean, yeah, right on, but that's not global.
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You did great.
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That's not globalists.
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That's out of control.
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Capitalism, it's got nothing to do with lasers.
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I don't think they're going to enforce it with lasers.
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No, although that would be a much more fun universe.
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Yeah.
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Frankly, if you're going to fuck me over, if you use lasers, that's better for me somehow.
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Right.
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I think that's more fun, right?
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Like it's the pen dragon affair.
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Yeah, yeah, yeah, exactly.
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Look, if you're going to be a monster, at least be a flamboyant monster.
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Give me something to latch onto.
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Give me some entertainment, you know?
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So, so, uh, hold on, this clip isn't done.
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Let's let Halamoto finish his case.
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Presidents search answers such as Linda Katehi, who's a Greek national.
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I don't know if she's even a US citizen.
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You have no idea.
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According to my research.
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And this is, this is how you attack them.
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You do your homework, you find the biography, it's very easy, it's open source.
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I didn't do that on Linda Katehi though.
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Um, a, a network, an international network to, um, nationalize and socialize and globalize
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institutions of higher education.
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Of course.
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Of course, absolutely.
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And she's one of the, she was one of the leading consultants for the destruction of the higher
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education system in Greece.
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Yup.
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And that is, uh, coterminous with, with the destruction of the larger Greek economy.
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So if you, okay, so Linda Katehi took down the Greek economy.
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Through taking down the education system in Greece, she then toppled the Greek economy.
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And then, cause she was so successful, she got brought in here to be the president of
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UC Davis and, uh, she has a bunch of patents for antennas and that's how she's doing it.
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But also she's so important that she's an international destroyer of economies and was
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fired for giving her son and stepdaughter a job.
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Yup.
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He's so crazy.
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I got to tell you something, dad, checks out.
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Sure.
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She's this indispensable piece of a nefarious international conspiracy who was fired for
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petty, uh, uh, uh, petty nepotism was like, ah, we can't look past that even though you're
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such an important part of our global scheme to destroy economies through education system.
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Man, he was doing so good.
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He's so stupid.
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He's doing so good.
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Cause he had it, he already had it.
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Wall Street is eyeing your pensions.
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You could just take that just one step further.
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And if Wall Street eyes your pensions and then takes them like they did in Greece, then
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it's a bad thing.
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Even if you think it's lasers, you're doing so good.
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Why did you get off track and go to Janet or Nancy, whatever her name is.
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I, uh, I lied to you earlier when I said that this wasn't a good Hamamoto appearance.
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He's killing it.
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Okay.
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Uh, in this next clip, uh, we get to find out some of the inspirations for Daryl Hamamoto.
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All right, professor, I'm going to stop ranting here.
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I want to give you the floor.
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He wasn't ranting.
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Alex did like a three minute commercial and then, uh, he's like, yeah, I'm going to give
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you the floor and then, uh, he's like, I'm going to stop ranting here for seven, eight
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minutes, whatever you think front and center.
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So to me asking the questions, then we're going to take some calls.
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Great.
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First, Alex, congratulations on your 20 years of broadcasting your work.
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Uh, the contributions of your fine guests, your, your reportage team, uh, has directly
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influenced and informed not just my lectures, which of course, uh, has reached any number
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of students by now, but also my scholarship.
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There's a book, a new book of mine that's in the mail to you that explicitly acknowledges
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your contribution to my own, uh, intellectual development.
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Oh no.
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Oh no.
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Are you getting the picture of Hamamoto's life?
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It's exactly what we thought.
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Yeah.
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He was, I want to go to, can we audit one of his lectures?
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Yes, absolutely.
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We got to take a trip.
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We have to go.
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I just got to donate so we can go to UC Davis.
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Are you kidding me?
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So he's proud of those lectures that students go to.
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Well, you understand.
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I mean, what he's accidentally revealing is that he at one point was a normal human being
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and then he caught the brain virus of Alex Jones's globalists.
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Yeah.
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And by that time he already had tenure, so they can't fire him.
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Right.
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And maybe they've scaled back his, uh, his salary and that's why he lives in this shitty
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apartment entirely possible.
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Like everything is coming into picture for Hamamoto.
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Well, I'm sure they're scaling back his, his caseload or his class load as well.
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Yeah, no.
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Anything you can do within the bounds of tenure for someone who's clearly off the reservation.
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Completely insane.
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He talks about arguing with students all the time.
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Of course.
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He insists on teaching classes about Illuminati theory and shit like that.
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Not great.
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Not great.
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Well, I mean, if you want to teach it from a like academic perspective, go ahead.
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But if you want to teach it from a, this is real.
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And Linda Katehi has antennas that are poisoning you right now.
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I want to go.
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How much fun is it?
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That should be in every university.
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There should be one hidden lunatic.
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Oh, there is.
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Yeah.
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Yeah, absolutely.
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Okay.
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I found a couple of them at the University of Missouri.
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Okay.
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They were great.
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Yeah, of course.
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Yeah, I took all their classes.
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Right.
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What do you like, what kind of crazy we're talking about there?
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Well, I had one, uh, crazy who, uh, there was the mean crazy.
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He was a doctor who, uh, it was some, uh, it's like Wellington or something.
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I can't remember who's right.
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Somebody named like that.
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And, uh, he was a Greek history professor and he was just a fucking asshole, but he
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was the kind of crazy.
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That's not fun.
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He was the kind of crazy who like, he expected everyone to do the reading and he would not
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be graceful about calling on people in class.
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And then he would clown on them when they hadn't done the reading.
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That's not crazy.
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That's kind of crazy.
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That's not crazy.
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That's terse.
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That's not how a moto crazy.
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No, I'm talking about him.
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I'm talking about hitting the Hamamoto crazy.
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All right.
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Um, let's see.
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There was a guy, this isn't the right kind of crazy either.
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I'm talking like the kind of crazy where it's like, it's a nuclear physicist, but he only
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does classes on whether or not mole men are real.
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No, that's the type of crazy that I think of Hamamoto.
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Oh, he is definitely that, but I guess we didn't have any of those.
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The only other, the only person I was thinking of was this guy named, uh, Dr. Rowlett.
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And, uh, he was a archeology professor, uh, in a class I took and boy, uh, the joke, the
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running joke was like, he should be teaching about himself because he was like 90 something
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and could barely talk.
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And so the entire class was me and the guy next to me, uh, being like, can you hear this
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guy what the fuck is going on?
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What is this class?
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Everyone passed because, uh, the curve was a disaster.
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Can you hear this?
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So that sounds like a Mr.
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Show sketch.
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Yeah, you, you heard there though that Hamamoto knows how to get back on the show.
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He knows how to get in Alex's good graces by complimenting him, which I actually think
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is probably, he's not being facetious.
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It doesn't sound like it, but he's also sounds like he's being honest as hell.
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He is a fucking ass licker.
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Listen to this.
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This is what happens immediately after.
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Okay.
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I'm honored.
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I can't wait to maybe carry the book and obviously have you on about it once I've read it.
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Absolutely.
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And also just as sort of a experiment, 10, uh, 10 minutes prior to, uh, having this conversation
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with you, I took some, uh, secret 12.
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It's a, it's basically a liquid B 12 vitamins, put it, uh, sublingually.
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And I take this right before the lectures because, uh, my goal is to be as fluid and
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slick as, uh, Joel Osteen, one of our favorite, uh, glitter bug preachers for the international
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audience for plugging.
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And we really are proud of secret 12.
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Thank you so much.
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Ooh, I mean, I don't know what's more troubling about that snake.
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Everything, everything is troubling about that.
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B 12 makes me feel great.
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I take it before lectures.
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Yeah.
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That's bad.
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So I can be slick as Joel Osteen.
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That's real bad.
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He's being, he's being facetious.
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He's being glib there.
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That's making fun of Joel Osteen.
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Yeah.
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Cause he calls him our favorite glitter bug preacher, which is a reference to Alex Jones
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insulting these prosperity gospel.
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I think he's still complimenting him.
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No, I think, I think he's being honest about how Joel Osteen is good at what he does, which
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is be a complete piece of shit.
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I think also there's a chance that, um, Daryl Hamamoto has some sort of a personality disorder
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and has flat affect.
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And you can't tell when he's being like that's possible.
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Cause his tone of voice almost never changes.
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Okay.
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He's always kind of in the same, uh, mode of speech.
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Uh huh.
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So I think he's, I, I'm, when I read the text, I read, uh, irony and sarcasm.
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Okay.
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I could be wrong, but that's what I see.
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You might be right.
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I might be right either way.
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Fucking amazing.
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It's coming in and plugging for him.
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And he continues that tradition on every appearance.
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Like on one of the other ones we went over, he was like, uh, he was like, Hey Alex, I
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just want to tell you, I just got your book or a Roger Stone's book, the making of a presidency.
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Does he pull it up?
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Yes.
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No.
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Yes.
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And in this, he pulls out the bottle of secret 12.
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Fantastic.
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Yeah.
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He's got it.
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He's got the good.
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That's great.
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Yeah.
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Do you think he's under contract?
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Uh, now probably.
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Yeah.
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He has to be.
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Yeah.
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If you're, if you're popping up a book, you gotta be like, that's a social media influencer
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type a gig right there.
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It's buzz marketing.
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Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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I think on another level, uh, uh, Hamamoto just sort of understands where his bread's
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buttered and he's like, I can get a lot of exposure from this that I couldn't get otherwise.
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Right.
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Uh, and uh, like if I pimp stuff for Alex, I know that's what motivates him.
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That'll make him more likely to promote me.
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Right.
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Everything works out.
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And if people promote me, we'll finally get these fucking lasers taken care of.
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Absolutely.
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That's the main goal?
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Yeah.
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Okay.
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So, um, Hamamoto has got some, a little bit of, uh, an oppression complex going.
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Right.
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And in this next clip, he references a colleague of his and I did a bit of research into this
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and I, I can't find anything.
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Look, here's the deal.
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He gives enough details that it sounds true if you're not paying attention, but so few
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details that it's impossible to search for it.
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Before we go any further, uh, is the colleague he's speaking of real?
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I can't say either way.
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My gut says no.
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Okay.
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Okay.
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At very least the story he's about to tell is I got red flags.
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Okay.
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Also a colleague of mine has been, uh, harassed, uh, con continuously.
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And, uh, just to show you the viciousness of the university system, she, uh, was declared
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clinically dead due to a massive health crisis.
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What do we do with that?
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Okay.
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All right.
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So colleague.
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Yep.
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She was declared clinically dead, even though she's still alive, just because her healthcare
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costs were too high.
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No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no.
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I don't think that's what it was.
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Here's where we're cut off, which I won't go into detail.
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And she published a, which I won't go into detail, massive health prices, which I won't
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go into detail.
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Yeah.
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So that's what you think.
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You think it's an insurance thing?
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Yeah.
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I don't think so.
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That's not how I heard it.
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I heard it.
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You have a, as you have a better estimate than me.
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How did you hear it?
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Retaliation.
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Wait.
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So you think she raised healthcare prices?
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No, no, no, no.
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Like she had some sort of an accident of some sort.
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Yeah.
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And then, uh, your, your, your theory makes the most sense.
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Yeah.
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What, what did you think was going on there?
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I would, I'm, I'm way interested in your interpretation now because mine is great.
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I'm a big fan of him believing that they would declare a living woman clinically dead for
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a while to lower the cost of a whatever.
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Because that doesn't work.
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That doesn't track.
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But here's how I heard it.
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And maybe I'm crazy, but maybe I'm a homamoto.
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You're a homamoto fan.
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Um, I heard it as she was making a stink at the university causing trouble.
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Okay.
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And so they declared her dead.
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That's that.
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Cause that is kind of how he makes it sound.
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Okay.
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He's like, she has been being harassed and all this stuff.
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It seems like the declaring her dead was a, Hey, fuck you.
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You're dead now or something like that.
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Yeah.
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Honestly, that makes as much sense.
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That makes no, no, I agree.
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I agree.
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It makes as much sense.
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The proof of the pudding is in the eating and she is not dead.
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So that's not going to get you out of healthcare fees or whatever.
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I don't, uh, does he, does he tell the name of the book?
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No, no.
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Come on.
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She wrote a book.
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He doesn't say the name of the book.
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He doesn't say her name.
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Whether or not she was killed.
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He says that she wrote a great legally.
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He's she's, he says that she wrote a great paper that if you email him, he'll give you
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the name of, he doesn't say the name of it.
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But what I'm saying is that like all of these things are like enough details that it's like,
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Oh yeah.
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He could, we couldn't make all that up, but seems like he could make all of that.
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It's not enough that anyone could confirm this person's existence.
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So she's dead right at this point.
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Legally.
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She's a ghost.
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Legally.
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She's like Jason Bourne.
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So Halamoto is crazy, um, in this next clip, uh, I'm Moto has a theory.
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How would they even have that power?
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They don't.
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What in what situation could the university be like, okay, wait, her bills are what?
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Just declare her dead.
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Jordan, just give her, just move her under the rug.
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I'll be honest.
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I don't like your tone.
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You're dead now.
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I declare you legally dead.
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I declare you dead.
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Oh no.
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Me too.
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You are dead sir.
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Hey, this is a podcast where two dead guys like to sit around and drink novelty.
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But it doesn't talk about Alex Jones.
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Two guys whose social security numbers no longer work.
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Yay.
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Um, so, uh, I'm Moto got another theory.
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This guy has a lot of theories.
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Yeah.
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Uh, this next one, they're great.
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Uh, this one is a little soft, but the reason why students are dropping out of humanities
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and droves is because there's something called the theory scare that took hold in academia
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in 1970s.
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And I think alluded to this in an earlier conversation with you, instead of reading
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the great classics, those three F ski, which I'm reading again now as an adult, it has
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as much impact on me as a grownup person, instead of reading these classics, they were
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just engaging in a literally fraudulent, um, uh, high theoretical philosophical screeds
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by people like Paul demand.
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They were people that were imported primarily from France.
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And I think that was the psyops.
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If any enterprising PhD student wants to do a forensic analysis of it.
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Yeah, I have an alternative theory to the psyop theory.
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If any enterprising young PhD student ever put forward as their thesis to defend, I think
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the 1970s theory scare was a psyop.
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Yeah.
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And I don't think they're going to get, uh, I don't think they're going to get past that.
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It led to in 2014, the people dropping out of humanities in droves in droves.
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I would imagine that Hamamoto sees a lot of people dropping out of his humanities because
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they get in there and they're like, this guy's not, this guy's fucking crazy.
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Some people care about their grades.
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And that is a chaotic element to have, like giving you grades.
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Like for us, we don't give a shit.
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We would have fun.
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It'd be awesome.
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Let's ride this out.
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Oh, I got an F in fucking fantasy land class.
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I don't give a shit, a little wasted money, but it was worth it.
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It was worth it.
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Uh, so I have another alternative theory that's not just based on his subjective experience.
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And that is the humanities path generally does not lead to good salary jobs.
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Not in my experience.
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Most of the humanities leads to academia or social work or those sorts of things.
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Or work from home transcribing things.
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Absolutely.
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Certainly I'm in the soft humanities.
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Exactly.
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Uh, like if you study Greek, let's say, or classics, you study classics.
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Like Dostoevsky, which you should read as a child.
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No, no, no.
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I'm talking about like classical.
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No, I know.
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I know what you're saying.
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Yeah.
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Or literature even.
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I'm against it.
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Any of those sorts of things.
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The, the real path that you can go down has become a teacher.
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Yeah.
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That's essentially what you can use that degree for.
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Like I have one of my majors as a minor, but I took a lot more than who cares.
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I took a lot of classes in Greek.
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And if I were to go to grad school, I would probably take more classes in Greek and classics.
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And the only path...
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And that would help you run an auto dealership.
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Absolutely.
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The only path it leads to is becoming a Greek teacher somewhere or something like that.
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Someone who propagates Greek.
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This is not a psy-op.
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It's just people in a bad economy or an economy that's...
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Values people with our type of education so little.
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Yeah.
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And they value specialized degrees much more.
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You can get higher paying jobs.
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People go to those.
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Yeah.
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You learned that when you're in college.
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And that leads you to go away from the humanities if your motivation is money.
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So that is probably a more sensible explanation.
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New job market.
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I'm hearing.
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All right.
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I'm listening.
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We tutor chemical engineers in the STEM field, like just all STEM fields.
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Okay.
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All right.
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All of our humanity degrees then go to just kind of going into random STEM field people's homes
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and just teaching them Dostoevsky and shit like that.
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You know what I'm saying?
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Sure.
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That way we'll never have a theory scare of the 1970s again.
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Sure.
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And we won't have to bring in these fucking French people over here.
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Okay.
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I don't know why you gotta dig in at the French.
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Nah.
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Like this guy fucking over here.
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Most of them French.
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I mean it's hack conspiracy theory basically.
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Yeah.
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Um so at this point Alex is like Hamamoto's got theories.
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I gotta come with something.
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Yeah.
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I can't just let this guy run circles of crazy around me.
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Right.
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And so he drops this.
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I go to Whole Foods and half the magazines are, it's great to be poor now.
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It's so cool.
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But then meanwhile Obama's flying around Air Force One telling Africans they can't have
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cars or air conditioners.
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I mean why not say you can have clean cars and clean air conditioners?
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I mean it's just they're teaching us it's not good to progress as a new dark age to
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stop the renaissance that threatens the monopoly of power.
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So here's what's interesting.
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I, I know that it's tired for us to play him talking about that Obama saying they can't
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have cars and air conditioners and flying in on a plane.
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The reason that I kept it in this time is because what he was saying is literally what
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Alex says, why don't you say this?
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Like he says, why don't you say you could have clean cars and clean air conditioning?
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And the point that Obama was making was we can't, we can't modernize the entire world
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the same way we have modernized the world, the first world that we have now.
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We made a lot of mistakes on the way.
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We have to be smarter about the technologies that we use or else the world is going to
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boil over.
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And so it's particularly offensive for me when Alex uses this narrative to make a stab
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at Barack Obama then give a why doesn't he say this and says exactly what Obama was saying.
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I think that does get into something that is true though.
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What's that?
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Uh, one of the biggest problems Alex has with Obama is he just doesn't talk like me.
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Sure.
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Doesn't look like me.
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It's it's I, and I don't, I don't necessarily think it's that either.
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I think it is smart.
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There's yeah, exactly.
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I think there's this huge anti, uh, intellectual, uh, movement that coincides with being on
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the right wing.
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That's why you have a professor like Hamamoto.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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And there's a lot of really smart professors.
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They just, they hate smart people.
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They hate experts.
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They hate all of those people.
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You know why I often get, you know why you don't have any common sense.
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Dude, you guys are so smart, but you don't have any common sense.
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You don't know how to solve this budget thing.
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Sure.
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You know your math and your gay instruments.
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Well, learning stuff is hard.
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That's why I don't understand people.
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Like I generally think that the sentiment of anti intellectualism that, uh, that runs
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rampant around this here country of ours.
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It mostly comes from people that are, uh, abused, uh, in their own head of the, with
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the idea that smart people are smart people and dumb people are dumb people, or that there
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is some sort of an intrinsic thing where it's just innate.
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You guys are the fucking stupid.
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You think you're better than us because you were born smart or something like that.
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The born part is what they wind up getting kind of stuck on.
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And people don't take, and they, they never come out and say as much necessarily, but
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I believe that's what's driving it when they don't realize that intelligence.
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I mean, you can make a nature nurture, uh, split, but the biggest piece of it is learning.
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The biggest piece of it is hard work and reading stuff and learning.
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Dan, I think we're going to have to refer you back to the four ways to learn episode
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race memory, race memory.
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That is how you learn.
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What was the other one?
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Well, I know that the best way to learn is to learn.
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That's true.
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I do know that.
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That's a good one.
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Yeah.
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Um, so at this point, Alex is like, homamoto, you got to talk some callers.
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We got to take some calls and this does not go.
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Homamoto calls.
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This doesn't go well.
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Okay.
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Here's why.
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Here's the caller that they get.
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Eddie in Illinois.
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You're on the air with professor homamoto.
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Oh, I know Eddie.
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Yeah.
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How you doing Alex?
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Good brother.
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Get ready.
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Thanks Dan.
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Get ready.
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I fucking, that was great work right there.
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You played just enough and then you real quick turn to the get ready.
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I need for you to not have an expectation that this is going to be fun.
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Okay.
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This is going to be pretty sad.
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Okay.
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Not homamoto heavy at all.
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Okay.
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I just want to say real quick that I am in the middle of a change in my life and I have
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a question.
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I bought the DNA force and oxy powder.
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I lost my job 8 1 6 8 2 0 57.
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Hold on a second.
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Hold on a second brother.
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We can't give phone numbers out on air, but I appreciate that because somebody could call
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in with somebody else's number as a form of harassment.
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I'm not saying you're doing that, but we can't give phone numbers out.
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Sometimes we can give out 1-800 numbers if it's a known number, but that's a tactic.
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Sometimes people call in to talk radio and give out say their ex-wife's phone number.
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Go ahead.
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Oh yeah.
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Sorry about that.
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I just want to say I am in the season of giving in Illinois.
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They're saying you can't film the cops.
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It's going to be a felony.
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I'm getting ready to be evicted.
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I'm a very good person.
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I'm just wondering how I can, you know, I pray to God.
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No, I hear you brother.
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I hear you and I appreciate your call.
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You know, you could give out your email if you wanted people to contact you locally and
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have them work with you.
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What's your email?
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Well, he's gone.
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You know, you're going to see that as the economy collapses and more and more people
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can't get a job and are kicked off their unemployment.
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First things first, unemployment is unemployment insurance that's paid for by taxes.
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Second thing, Alex absolutely hung up on that guy.
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Yeah.
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Undoubtedly.
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You think so?
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The guy didn't hang up.
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He was in the middle of a sentence when Alex cut him off with his general, we're done with
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this call kind of language.
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Right.
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Uh, and then he's like, uh, Hey, what's your email?
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He absolutely fucking cut that guy off and hung up on him.
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I don't know if he did it personally.
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Maybe the call screener did it.
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Uh, I would say it's probably more likely than miscommunication or something like that.
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Whatever it is, that is a unempathic, uh, real shitty.
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I mean, I know there's still, if he did do it personally, they're still trying to make
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a show.
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And I understand that.
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Do you think he has a button?
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Yeah, probably.
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You think he has a hard and fast, like, I bet he has a dump button of some sort, or
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at least the people behind the board know, like if someone starts cussing, hit the button.
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Yeah.
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Cause there was actually, I found an episode where Robert David Steele was on and he's
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like, Trump doesn't give a shit about us.
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Right.
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And then, uh, Alex is like, Ooh, we are on radio.
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Yeah.
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So, um, no, I just think that's real.
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That was very sad.
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Yeah.
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That was sad.
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He lied about buying the DNA force.
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No, no.
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He might've really, he might've really had a job.
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Yeah.
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But essentially what he was doing is I'm going to give you this so you can give me this.
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Yeah.
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You can give me the opportunity to put my name out there and number and maybe some people.
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Yeah.
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I'm going to be evicted from my house.
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Yeah.
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And instead Alex just hangs up on him.
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Yeah.
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It's real shitty.
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And then he's like trying to score points with talking about how like, eh, you know,
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people are going to be losing their unemployment.
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And like, again, that's a program, a program that you hate.
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So very, very much.
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Right.
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Don't you're advocating getting rid of that stuff.
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Everybody hates Medicare until they're on Medicare.
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And then all of a sudden they're like, wait a second.
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I don't think this is a good idea to defund.
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Oh, why are you taking so much out of my check for these taxes?
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Oh my God, I'm sick and I've lost my job.
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Yeah.
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It's like what happened when fucking coach was on Fox news.
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And he was like, listen, I've been on welfare.
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I've been on unemployment and I think those are bad programs because they saved my life.
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Like he just, he just pulled Craig T Nelson.
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Did you never see that one?
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I was trying to figure out if you were talking about coach, coach, or if you have a coach.
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There's only one coach.
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Okay.
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I was only one coach.
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I was also thinking it might've been, you might've been talking about Jonathan Coachman.
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No, one coach, Craig T Nelson.
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One true coach.
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Exactly.
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So all praise.
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This call did not go well.
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And this is not what you want when Hamamoto's in studio.
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No, that was kind of a bummer.
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Yeah, that's actually labeled bummer caller.
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Um, but guess what?
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We have something to pick us up.
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Okay.
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Out of the ashes of that phone call comes a new guest.
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Um, Billy Corrigan is our guest, or as I say it in Texas drawl where he butchered names,
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Billy Corrigan, Billy Corrigan.
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That's why you play Billy Corrigan.
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You ought to pronounce his name right.
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Billy Corrigan.
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And he's not in the hotel room.
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He's flown in and landed.
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He is in the airport right now.
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Uh, so I can't wait to have him back in studio.
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Next time he's in Austin, uh, he's a regular listener and he's just a great guy.
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I'm one of these listeners through a man cow, a fellow friend, and he's a really smart guy.
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One of the smartest people I've talked to, not just in music or entertainment, but period.
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And Billy Corrigan has actually taught me quite a bit.
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I'm not talking to Hamamoto over here.
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How to see the world, uh, and has helped me mature some.
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And I think that's why out of the blue for the last decade or so, you see just random
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hit pieces, even though there's no scandals, no dirt, nothing.
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That's why you see Anderson Cooper and the CIA attacking him.
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So, um, yeah, dude, when I fucking pulled open this episode and it said the guests were
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Hamamoto and Billy Corrigan, I was like, Holy shit.
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Wow.
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This is the goods.
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So, uh, all these hatchet pieces about Billy Corrigan are easily explained by Billy Corrigan
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is a fucking asshole.
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Seems like it.
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If you just look at this shortest Google search will turn up at least 10 instances of him
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being total dicks to bands he performs with.
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Yeah.
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And stuff like everybody's got a, Oh yeah, Billy Corrigan was a total asshole to me.
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Right.
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Kind of story.
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It's like, yeah, I mean, he's notorious.
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Most people, most people think Billy Corrigan affected them through their music.
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Through their music and it helps them kind of grow that way.
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And Alex is like, nah, he's kind of a shitty musician, but let me tell you about this guy
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and chemtrails fucking made me mature quite a bit.
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He's anti vaccination.
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We know that for sure.
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He's a mess.
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But also, uh, what at the end of that clip, he said that Anderson Cooper from the CIA
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put, put not hit pieces about him.
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Hey, coops, and I don't know.
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I don't know how to, I don't know how to, I don't know.
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I don't know how to get into this.
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Just get into it, baby.
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So Anderson Cooper had a segment, uh, on his, uh, on his show, Anderson Cooper, three 60
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around this time that was called the ridiculous.
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Uh, and solid pun.
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I'm going to be honest with you.
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It's a local TV level hackery.
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Yeah.
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You know, it's just filler.
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It's the top 10 list of shit somewhat.
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Yeah.
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It's like an attempt at a comedy piece within the middle.
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And you know what?
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I think Anderson Cooper is actually really funny.
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I've heard him on radio shows and I like him a lot.
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Okay.
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Like he's been on, back in the day, he was on love line a couple of times and he's been,
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I've listened to a couple of like clips of him on a Howard Stern and he's a super personable,
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comfortable in his own skin, present funny guy.
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And this segment is not, it's not great.
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You know, it's, it's, it's definitely not great, but he had a bad producer.
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It wasn't him.
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Or does he come off as stiff and kind of shitty at it?
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No, I just, I think it's, uh, I think we are comedians and when you're looking for a premise,
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you should try a little harder.
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Um, what happened, what happened was there was an issue of pause Chicago, which pauses
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is the no kill shelter here, one of the big ones here in Chicago.
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And Billy Corgan did a cover of the magazine, uh, with a couple of cats and, uh, you know,
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the headline Siamese dream.
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And so he was on the cover of Chicago magazine.
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I don't appreciate that.
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And so, uh, at the same, around the same time, he did a commercial for a furniture store
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in Chicago.
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Uh, and the point of Anderson Cooper's piece was, uh, like, you know, it's difficult to
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wrestle Billy Corgan is an asshole.
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It's difficult to wrestle with the idea of, uh, musicians getting older, uh, and that
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sort of thing.
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He presents it a little bit.
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Ice Cube is in family films.
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He presents it a little bit like, uh, um, you know, it's sad that he's doing these things.
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Yeah.
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And that's Ice Cube is in family films.
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That's shitty though, because the reality is, uh, that Billy Corgan did do that cover
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for charity.
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There was like a charity piece attached to it.
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He didn't get paid for it or anything like that.
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Yeah.
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He's no Ice Cube.
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He's not taking that money home.
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And he's a supporter of the pause.
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Uh, and it is a no kill shelter.
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It's all great.
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Pause is great.
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But the other piece, they should get Ice Cube to do something.
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The other piece of it too though, is that furniture commercial.
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That's not excusable that way.
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Uh, but it is out of character, you know, like it beyond the, uh, saying you're washed
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up and it's a money thing, right?
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It's also like you are avant garde.
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You were someone who, when I was younger, I thought was really creative and rocking.
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Snoop Dogg has a game show.
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And the cover is weird.
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It looks really weird.
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If you look it up, it's mockable on its own.
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Yeah.
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Just it, you should have taken another shot, Billy.
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Right.
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It looks bad.
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Take two picks.
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But then even here, I'm going to play you the end of this Anderson Cooper piece and
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you'll hear that he takes the piss out of himself at the end too.
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You know what?
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Maybe the internet is the real problem here.
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There was a time that nobody outside of Chicago would have ever seen the cover of Paul's
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Chicago magazine, but nowadays you can't even pose for the cover of Web MD magazine.
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Wait a minute.
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That's me on the cover of Web MD.
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Okay, look, for the record, I have no memory of posing for the cover of Web MD, though
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apparently I did.
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I gave an interview.
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I don't know what I was doing on the cover of it.
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Anyway, so like I said, it's not a good bit.
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It's not good comedy, but he even calls himself out a little bit.
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He even got sad at the end there.
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Kind of.
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That's not how you end that bit.
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It's not.
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You don't end that bit, Maudlin.
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It's not great, but at the same time, there is an element of it where he's like,
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hey, I do it too.
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Yeah.
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And whatever.
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Yeah, he was trying to make that point.
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Yeah, he was trying to bring it full circle that it's like, I'm not really being that
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mean.
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I needed to fill a human interest piece.
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I'm taking the piss out of you.
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It's not because I hate you or don't like you or disrespect you.
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It's because, hey, we all do dumb shit.
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It was fun to point it out.
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The softest of hits possible.
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And oh boy.
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Almost the entire interview with Alex is about this.
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Of course.
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Because Billy Corgan's an asshole.
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All right.
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All right.
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So if I understand the timeline correctly.
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Yes.
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Anderson Cooper makes a bad joke at Billy Corgan's expense.
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Right.
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Billy Corgan chooses.
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Billy Corgan goes on Info Wars, not realizing how much sadder that is than being on the
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cover of PAWS magazine.
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I propose a solution to this that Billy Corgan could have taken very easily.
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Shut the fuck up.
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No.
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Oh, that's funny.
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I wish, I mean, I wish they would have called and I could have told them about the charity
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and all that, but that's fine.
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That's fine.
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You know, you know, people make jokes and whatever.
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It's a misunderstanding, whatever.
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Yeah.
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And then he goes about your fucking business.
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Instead, he goes on Info Wars and he's like, I'm taking that charity money back.
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He's not like mad, but he is furious.
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It's anyway, let's get to the first quote.
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This is nonsense.
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All right.
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You heard my intro there.
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There's so much to get into.
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Let's talk about Anderson Cooper first.
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Not that it even matters.
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Has almost no viewers.
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Dinosaur media.
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But at the same time, it's so clear that every time you've got an album about to come out,
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the hit pieces begin, almost like your publicist is encouraging that sort of thing.
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Who would have guessed?
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Maybe your publicist sent a copy of this cover to Anderson Cooper's producers.
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Probably a good idea.
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Yeah.
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Because they want to slap you down.
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Yeah.
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Well, it's pretty strange.
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I don't know if your listeners know the context of this, but I did a cover for a charity called
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Cause Chicago.
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It's a no kill shelter model.
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Very proud.
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I've helped raise along with my partner in the band, Jeff, a quarter million dollars
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for the charity.
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One of my proudest things I've ever done is being involved in animal rights issues.
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And it was about six months ago, the image went viral.
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It's me and my rescue cats on the cover of the magazine.
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Never in a million years did I think I'd start getting attacked.
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And out of nowhere, four or five months later, there I am being made fun of.
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No context for the fact that it's a charity magazine.
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Basically presented as if I've fallen so far off the celebrity radar that I'm reduced to
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doing a cat magazine.
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And then ties it into kind of a, where has he gone?
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What, you know, whatever happened to him kind of being turned, kind of mocking my participation
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in professional wrestling.
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No mention of my new album, no mention of my successes.
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Nothing.
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It's as if I was some, you know, sort of, I just disappeared off the celebrity map.
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Very strange.
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And I think he's probably been a bit shocked by the reaction because, A, I fought back.
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What you're not supposed to do, you're supposed to take your licks and just put your tail
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between your legs because the mighty CNN has spoken.
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Or just be a grown up about it.
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You know, like maybe send them a request for a correction even.
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That would be not too far off the mature path.
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I actually, I find his argument to be somewhat convincing.
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No.
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I do.
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He's a rock star and he's an aging rock star and he's not aging the way that the Rolling
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Stones do.
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So he's feeling bitter because no matter how successful you get, you're always going to
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feel bitter about not being more successful.
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Because he's...
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And then he's got a good point.
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That is the way that Cooper pulled that piece.
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He's lived like 15, 20 years, 25 years pissed off that he's not Nirvana.
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That is his existence.
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And because of that, there is probably an oppression complex, much like Hamamoto's
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got.
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Like everybody in the Info Wars universe does.
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That he's being held down and that his greatness isn't being recognized.
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How does Hamamoto feel about Billy Corgan?
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Loves him.
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Loves Billy Corgan?
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I don't fucking know.
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They didn't mention it.
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I want to know.
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I don't know.
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I'll call him.
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This is the only thing I'm interested in now.
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Let me ring that boy.
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Let's get...
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Oh man, we could totally get Hamamoto on the phone.
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Yeah, we probably could.
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We could totally do it.
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Uh, let's look into that.
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Okay.
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Let's get our talent booker on that.
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Yeah.
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The email system is our talent booker.
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Look, here's as far as I'm willing to go with you on this.
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I'm willing to agree that he has a good point.
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He's got a good point.
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It was misrepresented, but I don't believe super maliciously.
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If you are an adult looking at that, your best play is to not get mad about it and to
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be like, it's a human interest piece.
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They kind of were...
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As an adult, I agree with you.
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I think...
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As a person promoting your next album, I disagree.
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I think the smart play there is to start a fucking shit war.
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Maybe.
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And then get more people paying attention to you and more people realize that you have
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another album out because nobody's on...
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Yeah, if he's playing the game, man, he's crushing it.
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Well, okay.
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I'm on his team.
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All right.
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I'm on Billy Corgan's team is the first time I've ever said that.
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All right, fine.
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Let's see him talk more about it.
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Okay.
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Just to give you a little bit of context on the other side of it.
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Right after the Anderson Cooper thing kind of went viral.
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I know you put a story on your site and I gave a quote for that.
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I wonder if that's why it went viral.
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When that sort of kind of ticked back up into the mainstream consciousness,
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I probably did about 10 interviews in the next couple of days.
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And in seven of the 10 interviews, I was asked about the Anderson Cooper flap.
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And five of the seven people who interviewed me had no idea it was for a charity.
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And then my response could have been,
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Oh, it's interesting, actually.
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Pause Chicago is this really great no-kill shelter.
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And I was doing it to support them.
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Everyone kind of misunderstands.
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I understand.
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Maybe I didn't do a good enough job of explaining that when my agent sent out the press release
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to Anderson Cooper's producer.
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Right.
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Maybe they could have done a better job for immediate release.
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Billy Corgan does cover for charity
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instead of Billy Corgan does very weird looking picture shoot.
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Yeah.
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This is all bad.
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I'm telling you.
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Okay.
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What if it were Kanye?
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Kanye is not coming on Info Wars.
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I'm just saying what if it were Kanye?
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Kanye gets the same result from Anderson Cooper on a CNN piece.
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Then Kanye goes on Fox News and goes on Hannity and he's like,
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Fuck this guy.
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I'm still on Kanye's side.
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So that shows you that there is still a little effectiveness
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because counting on that low information crowd will be on headline.
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That's it.
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They are targeting a low information crowd.
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But again, that crowd of zombies really don't even matter anymore.
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I mean, I'm sad to say that it's like they're almost not even people.
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Billy Corgan.
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Less on their side now.
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Billy Corgan in his defense of himself is like
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all these low information people who only go off headline.
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Yeah, I'm not a fan of that one.
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I'm not a fan of that one.
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You will turn on Billy by the end of this.
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Okay.
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That's what this whole episode is about.
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I am like, look, I agree with you that he did a good thing for charity.
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Yeah.
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And it was probably miscommunicated, but it's a fucking asshole.
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Anyway, you're biased against assholes.
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No, I'm fine with it.
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Most of my friends are assholes.
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That's true.
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I'm an asshole.
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Yeah.
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So anyway, here's, I don't know.
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Let's talk more about Anderson Cooper.
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Speaking of Anderson Cooper, he really is a CIA guy.
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He really was in the CIA, not just an intern.
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He really is the grandson of one of the biggest dynasties in the country.
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What is it?
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The Astors.
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He's a little rich kid given everything he's got.
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He failed, he has some of the worst ratings on CNN.
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So I would feel good, Billy, just to have this joke, this failure that was given everything.
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I mean, you came from nowhere.
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I came from nowhere.
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He was given everything.
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He's the opposite of Americana.
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You know, I think what's interesting, because to me, you know, I try to stay out of the
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personal side of it.
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Although I did say the other day I wasn't born with a silver spoon on my arse.
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I tried to stay out of the personal stuff, except for this example of the other day when
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I got into the personal stuff.
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Yeah.
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Well, he said he tried.
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He didn't say he succeeded.
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I think it's very interesting that there is a level of arrogance here.
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That crowd, whatever that crowd is, and I've hung with them, you know, I've been in those
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rooms and so have you.
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I've been to those parties and so have you.
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That crowd really thinks they can sort of flick us off the shoulder anytime they want.
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And what they don't realize is that people like you and me, we're just symbols of a much
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greater conversation.
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They don't understand that a vast part of our country is waking up, is breaking this
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hypnosis, this grip of hypnosis, and they can't see it.
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They literally can't see it.
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They do not think they literally think they can just double down, triple down on these
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narratives and these false paradigms, and the public's just going to keep lapping them
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up.
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Sounds a lot like Alex's listeners.
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OK, so if I understand that correctly.
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Gotcha.
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Billy Corrigan goes from, hey, CNN did this dumb piece about me.
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I'm going to be all angry about it.
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You're making me act like a C-list celebrity instead of saying that I'm doing a great thing
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for charity.
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I have an album.
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Two.
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There's a great awakening coming.
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CNN is the enemy.
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Yeah, I mean, he's the only other thing they talk about other than Anderson Cooper in this
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interview is that everyone's asleep.
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Yeah, like that.
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There's zombies.
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What about his new album?
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Also, I mean, they do talk about that a bit.
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Billy Corrigan did come from humble beginnings, but Alex didn't.
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His dad was a millionaire dentist.
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Paid for his first show, as we all know.
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And he had multiple dental practices and owned tons of property in Austin.
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Oh, really?
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Yeah, so he was a millionaire growing up.
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Well, then fuck that.
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Yeah, and I'm going to wait till this next clip plays, but I got some harsh truths about
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Anderson Cooper that Alex is probably not willing to deal with.
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Right, how could you not be eyes open at this point?
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And his mother was a Vanderbilt, the heir of the entire Vanderbilt fortune, not a not
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a aster, but it doesn't matter.
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They're interrelated.
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And again, nothing wrong with being the last male heir of one of the biggest robber baron
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horrible dynasties.
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It's just give us a break, Anderson Cooper, because I don't even get into fighting with
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these personalities.
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But at the same time, I think it's important to not just respond and say, hey, I'm helping
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a cat charity.
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Leave me alone.
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Don't try to make me look like a has-been when I'm not.
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Everybody knows that you've been popular all along.
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You've been great, Billy.
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Billy, you're the best.
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You're the best, Billy.
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Have you tried this B12 that I'm getting out of here, Billy?
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Billy, let me tell you something.
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Dr. Hamamoto.
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It comes Dr. Hamamoto recommended.
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Yeah.
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If you want to get some more gay instruments in your Smashing Pumpkins band, come on down
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to Hamamoto's gayinstruments.com.
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Yeah, so Anderson Cooper's mom, Gloria, is a Vanderbilt.
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Yeah.
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She comes from the Vanderbilt family.
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Yeah.
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He is not the last male heir in the vast Vanderbilt fortune.
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No, I'm assuming they got a bunch.
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He's been very clear in interviews throughout the entirety of his career that he was told
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at a very young age that he was disinherited from the family's wealth, that there was no
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trust fund for him.
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He's interpreted it as, if I knew that there was a trust fund, I would have never tried
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to succeed.
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I don't know a lot of people who have billions or millions of dollars waiting for them that
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have a drive to succeed.
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And I'm very glad that they disinherited me when I was a kid, that I had no inheritance.
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A lot of people don't believe him.
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But the actual real likelihood is that there is no money.
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Yeah.
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Yeah, that's much more likely.
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His mom, Gloria, inherited the equivalent of $33 million not adjusted for inflation.
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So it would be $33 million now in 1925.
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That's a long fucking time ago.
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His mom is old.
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How old is Anderson Cooper?
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He's probably 50 something, maybe 52.
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He looks great.
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Yeah, he does.
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He looks great.
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He looks amazing.
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You know what it is?
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Trust fund money.
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Yeah.
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I just, I like Anderson Cooper.
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I don't know.
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I get it.
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I get it.
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That's your real issue here.
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You're on Anderson Cooper's side against Billy Corrigan.
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I don't think you can.
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I think you don't like Billy Corrigan.
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Is this a benevolent minor celebrity situation that we're running into?
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I've not met any of them.
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You met Billy Corrigan or Anderson Cooper.
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Who hurt you?
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Dan, who hurt you?
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No one.
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Look, the issue is I'm calling it down the middle.
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I'm telling you that I think that it's correct that it's not right to clearly bring up
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that it is a charity thing that he did.
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Although also in 2009, Billy Corrigan auctioned off the right to buy him lunch.
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Someone paid $6,000 to get lunch with him, but had to pick up the tab.
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I mean.
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It's a little asshole-ish.
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I think you can deduct the price of the meal along with your charity.
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They donated $6,000 and I would say probably like $142 worth of McDonald's.
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Yeah, so Anderson Cooper's mom inherited the equivalent of $33 million in 1925 and
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family wrangling over the trust eventually accelerated her control of a slightly bigger
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share.
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A lifetime of artistic and business pursuits presumably helped her independent cash flow,
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but unless she stopped taking distributions long ago, nine decades is a long time for
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a traditional trust to run.
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People have muttered that the trust was actually empty by the 1950s and it's unclear how much
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money the designer jeans and perfume line that she put out actually made her.
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By the time the perfume came out, she was already fighting her partners over a relatively
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insignificant $1.3 million.
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A few years later, a Manhattan court ruled that her lawyer and psychiatrist had colluded
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to misappropriate a whopping $1.4 million from her accounts.
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In the meantime, the IRS seized and liquidated her assets to pay a $2.5 million tax bill.
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So there's a lot of indications that...
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They went broke.
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Yeah.
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So Anderson Cooper...
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No, they did a study on it and most inherited wealth is dead by the fourth generation or
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something along those lines.
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Absolutely, because it becomes diffuse.
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There's so many people that are in on it.
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Right.
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And the guy who made all the money, generally speaking, comes from a different place.
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And if you're born into wealth, generally speaking, you're not going to be very good
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with money.
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And so there's a really good chance that when Anderson Cooper was a child, his parents told
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him that he's disinherited and there is no inheritance waiting for him.
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Yeah.
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And he interpreted it as a way to stiffen him up and make him more thirsty for life
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or whatever.
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But the reality is that there was no money there or there's a little bit of money, like
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a couple million, something like that.
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But they had a lot of property and they were in with social classes.
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Right.
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And so there was the appearance of royalty or luxury lifestyle when they were really
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just probably pretty upper middle class or lower upper class or whatever.
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They weren't like old money, the Carnegie's of old or whatever.
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So Alex's whole presentation about him.
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They weren't in the Great Gatsby or whatever.
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He's just trying to stoke up sort of like class anger that he doesn't deserve to play
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with.
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Because Alex, you probably have more money than his mom.
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Yeah, I know.
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They probably started out at a relatively similar monetary position.
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Right.
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It's just the image of the Vanderbilts comes with so much loaded baggage for Alex that
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he can't...
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Well, they're a Illuminati.
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The property is making a great point on the message boards.
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Alex does come from royalty.
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Confederate.
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That's true.
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Good point.
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That's a fair point.
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In his next clip, Billy Corgan, while he's been railing this entire time that Anderson
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Cooper has called him a washed up celebrity on this puff piece, human interest, nonsense,
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missed comedy segment.
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Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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I think in this clip, if you listen closely, Billy Corgan kind of says that his career
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is not going great.
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You know, we have to remember those of us that are awake.
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There are so many people that are in that horrible moment of like, wow, if this stuff
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is true, what do I do?
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And we see that more and more now.
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You see people waking up and it's really shocking to them that they've been given
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a lie sort of all along.
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And as you sit in bars and, you know, around coffee houses and talk to people about what's
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really going on, you can see that it's not so much that they don't know that something's
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happening.
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They just don't know what to do about it.
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So we have to continue to prepare the way.
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And, you know, this is not some begging appeal, you know, to be supported as an artist.
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But what I would say to everybody is the artists in many ways are some of the most dangerous
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people in the world because we have that, we have that street credibility to go out
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and sing some gospel.
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And that's what makes me dangerous is once I get, once my career starts rolling in the
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right direction again, well, here I come because, well, how is it possible?
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I mean, they've tried to kill me how many times.
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And, you know, the Anderson Cooper is just a small example getting kicked in the shin.
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He did it.
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What?
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He did it.
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I wrote down the moment he started talking about all that stuff.
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I wrote down, go to an ad pivot, just like Alex Jones.
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He just nailed the Alex Jones.
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That's why I'm dangerous.
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That's what I'm doing.
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So once we get that career going, once we get that money going, I wrote down, go to
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an ad pivot.
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Wow.
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Yeah.
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And he fucking nailed it.
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He listens to Alex Jones.
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Yeah, he probably does.
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He's got his, he got that down.
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But at the same time, even they're afraid of me because I'm the leader of the people
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who are awake.
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They can't stop me, which is why you guys need to go out and buy my new album.
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And that is what happens next.
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Yeah.
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They do talk about buying his album.
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Of course.
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But at the same time, first of all, I'm getting very impressed with your ability to pick out
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these like subtle versions of the ad pivot.
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You, you have hit me with so many ad pivots at this point.
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I'm starting to become a connoisseur.
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This is the, this is the education.
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That's what it is.
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I'm a better educator than Hamamoto at this point and show you the way.
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Look through Alex's bullshit.
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But we got to get you a tenor class at the University of Missouri.
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You know what?
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How to go to an ad pivot.
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You know what, uh, when, uh, when you said he did it, I thought what you were saying,
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and I was going to double down on was that.
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I think he gave away that he probably planted the story about pause.
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Oh yeah.
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Because when he says in there, my career gets going in a right direction again.
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Yeah.
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He's he, he's this blustery nonsense about like, oh, you're saying that I'm washed up.
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My career is not going in the right direction.
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Right.
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Right.
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What are you doing?
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Well, the reason it's not going in the right direction is because not enough people are
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awake.
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Not enough people know they got a red pillow and get rid of this CNN Anderson Cooper Vanderbilt
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bullshit and start listening to the new Smashing Pumpkins album out in a two weeks.
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Here is one of the most grandiose and nonsensical plugs for Billy Corgan's album that happens
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right after this.
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If people go out and support independent artists that are speaking out against tyranny,
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that's great music as well, and buy your album at SmashingPumpkinsNexus.com and then play
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it for friends and then ask that it be played on the radio or share it with their friends.
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Buy it at a billboard.
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That's how you bring the system down.
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You've got to go further and decide you want to promote cultures of liberty.
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I can't tell you historically how many kings, how many corrupt dynasties were brought down
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by a jester telling jokes that became viral in ancient times or by the local band or even
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one guy with his, they didn't have guitars back then, one guy with his little mandolin
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or whatever singing songs about the corrupt nobility.
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That would change it.
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So a song or an idea that isn't in the hands of the system could bring them down and that's
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why they target people like you.
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I think that's matrix shit, but at the same time...
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How do you get rid of oppressive regimes, Dan?
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Buy my shit.
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This machine kills fascists.
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That is exactly what he's doing right there.
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You don't go out and do any activism.
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What you do, you wait for somebody to write a song.
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And you buy the stuff that I promote.
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You buy the song, that's it.
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Yeah, that's shameful.
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But then at the same time, I've studied a bit of history in my life.
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I know that you're a student of history as well.
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Yeah, that's not how it works.
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Do you know of any kings that were brought down by jesters or song or is that just an
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archetype that artists tell the songs?
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Oh boy, let's see.
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Henry VIII, he was brought down by Flatulus the Great, who was a Greek time-traveling
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farter. He did mimed farts.
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Let's see, no!
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The answer is no.
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The 60s did shit.
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Where's our new protest music?
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Well, it didn't fucking work last time.
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Where's our new protest anything?
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I mean, Billy Corgan even gets into that a little bit.
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He's like, where's the political music now?
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I was like, who cares?
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It went to hip-hop, asshole.
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So now Alex gets weird because they're already talking about the potency of song and all
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that stuff.
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And in this next clip, Alex reveals something real weird.
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Now we're going to post this video later today on Facebook and Twitter.
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It needs to go viral because he has a lot of courage saying what he's saying because
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they really come after people.
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I got to be very careful here what I'm going to say about John Lennon.
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But they made a film six, seven years ago that won a bunch of awards that had the declassified
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documents where Strom Thurmond, the senator and others, said we want him taken out.
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We know the suspicious way he was killed.
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I'm just going to stop right there.
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But I've talked to the highest level people and been told stuff about what really went
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on and then what happened to them afterwards and everything.
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And I can tell you, the FBI and the CIA killed John Lennon.
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And then they went on a campaign to cover up what they did with their patsy.
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And so that's why when we talk about this, folks, it's very dangerous.
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What aren't you telling people?
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You told people everything.
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What did we just like?
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Look, I can't tell you what I know, but here's here's all of it.
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Is that a thing?
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No.
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Do people believe that?
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Alex might.
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Do people believe that the FBI and the CIA working together, which they don't traditionally
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do, especially now back then, killed John Lennon in Britain?
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If you're awake.
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Oh, yeah.
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On foreign service.
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He was in New York, wasn't he?
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Oh, that's right.
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He was.
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Yeah, he was at that hotel.
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Sorry.
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They picked the right time.
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It would have been funnier.
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It would have been a lot funnier.
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It would have been much more unrealistic.
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No, I don't think I don't I don't know.
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Well, unless they that was all part of the cover up and they killed him back in Liverpool
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when he was nine.
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I mean, some people believe that Paul McCartney is still alive.
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So, I mean, it takes all kinds.
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You understand?
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I mean, it's weird.
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Anyway, this next clip is all right.
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This next clip is on.
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I got it.
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OK.
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This next clip is unfortunate in hindsight because they start talking about how I don't
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even I don't even remember how they got onto this topic.
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It's not important, but this is this is dumb.
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Almost all local news is written in New York or L.A. or D.C.
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This is on record and packaged and sent.
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You tell them the local story and then they send down what you say or it's read off a
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teleprompter if it's a national story.
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Right.
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So so if there's a if you know, there's a man in a high castle somewhere, you know,
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there's not a lot of them, but they're able to, through their control and their and their
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media control, sort of manipulate the storyline.
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We your listeners know.
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Yeah, your listeners know.
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I don't know what he's alluding to.
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The listeners know.
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But so on local news, when you're when you're watching your local news action six or whatever
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it is, there's a good chance that they don't know what the story actually is.
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Right.
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And only from New York or L.A., they are broadcasting teleprompter things.
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So the people sitting around at the desk are all reading for the first time local news.
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Well, there's one there.
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I mean, that's that's nonsense.
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But at the same time, I want to say one thing really quick before I dive into this.
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That's going to be damning.
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The man in the high castle wasn't about that.
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As a Philip K. Dick fan, don't don't use that as your metaphor.
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I know you visually think it makes sense, but there's a man in a high castle.
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That's not what the man in the high castle was doing.
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No, it's about a man in a high castle.
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No, that's not what was going on.
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That's what.
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Don't you remember Catching the Rye?
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It's about a dude catching all that fucking rye.
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So much rye.
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So much fucking rye.
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So Alex's conception of what is going on with local news is sort of spiritually correct,
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but it's not correct in the way he conceives of it.
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Right.
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If you look at what he's talking about is Sinclair broadcasting.
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Bingo. Unfortunately, they are expanding and completing totalitarian control over all local
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news everywhere and forcing people to run their propaganda.
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Uh huh.
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And that's bad.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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It's pretty interesting, too, if you look at what's happened with Sinclair since Trump
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got into office.
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A lot of good things, strangely enough.
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It seems like they're coming out as a big winner.
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Yeah.
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Monday morning.
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This is back in, I believe, March of this year.
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Yes, that's correct.
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Oh, May. Excuse me.
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This is an article from from Common Dreams, which just aggregates stuff from other places.
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This is from the Fairness and Accuracy in Reporting Organization.
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Monday morning, Sinclair Broadcast Group, the conservative media behemoth that owns
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more local news stations than any other company in the country, just got even bigger.
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It announced that it was buying Tribune Media for three point nine billion dollars, creating
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what Bloomberg calls a TV Goliath.
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The purchase, which Sinclair, which gives Sinclair a staggering reach of nearly sixty
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nine now percent of the U.S. population would not happen and no high fives for that.
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That would have been in violation of ownership restrictions just weeks ago.
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But last month, the Trump appointed FCC chair, Ajit Pai, reinstated the UHF discount, an
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outdated loophole that allowed media conglomerates to exceed the nation's thirty nine percent
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cap on ownership of media stuff.
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Sinclair made a four hundred and twenty million dollar deal to buy Bonton Media Group the very next day.
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This sequence of events, quote, sure looks like a quid pro quo, as Craig Aaron of the
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media advocacy group Free Press has noted.
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Months ago, Trump's son in law, Jared Kushner, told business executives, according to Politico,
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that, quote, Trump's campaign struck a deal with Sinclair Broadcast Group during the campaign
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to try and secure better coverage.
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The deal, Politico reported, was that Sinclair would give Trump more uncritical coverage
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in exchange for more access to Trump and the campaign.
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Now, Trump appears to be using the considerable power of the Federal Communications Commission
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as his own personal ATM for political currency.
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And Trump's son is fucking stupid.
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He's so dumb.
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How did these guys win?
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Anyways, Ajit Pai.
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Well, just recently, they, yeah, I was going to say the one that was just a couple of weeks
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ago is fucking insane.
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Well, also, you got to take into consideration that in the summer of this year, in June or
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July, excuse me, this is from an article in Politico, even while under fire for requiring
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its outlets to run conservative content, Sinclair Broadcast Group is increasing the, quote,
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must run segments across its affiliates featuring former Trump White House official Boris Epfasian
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to nine times a week, the company confirmed Monday.
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Yeah, you have to run it.
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Must run nine times a week.
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Yeah, you have to run it.
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69% of the coverage in the country of a conservative propaganda piece that is masked to look like
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local news being presented by a former Trump White House official.
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Also, they have pieces that are made by former Trump Communications Advisor Jason Miller.
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I'm not seeing any red flags there.
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Multiple Trump people have gone over and started to actively work for the centralized Sinclair
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Broadcast Company.
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Not seeing any problems.
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Big problems.
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Yeah.
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Well, the biggest thing that the FCC just did is allow local, there used to be a rule,
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there used to be a rule that you had to have at least six or seven local media outlets.
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Right.
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And they just got rid of that, which means that Sinclair Media is only going to expand
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its total domination of local news markets.
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Yeah.
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It is a nightmare.
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It's interesting to me that it's, as far as far reaching consequences have gone, Ajit
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Pai has been the most damaging person in the Trump cabinet.
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I mean, it's a...
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Or the Trump appointees.
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It's a...
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In terms of the future, I think Ajit Pai is probably going to kill us all.
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It's a real stacked field.
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It's a tight race.
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It's a tight race.
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It's real tough to make that kind of declaration, but it looks bad.
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But none of his legislation has really gotten through.
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His Muslim bans have been stopped by the courts.
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There's a legal challenge to just about everything.
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Right.
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The only thing that has apparently unilateral control is the FCC.
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Yeah.
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And Ajit Pai has singularly destroyed net neutrality, destroyed any protections against
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monopoly, he's expanded the power of media conglomerates more than I think anybody's
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ever done.
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And he's gotten rid of the need for equal internet access.
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He's given a huge boon to your Comcast and your AT&T and all that shit in order to make
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sure that if you're poor and in the middle of nowhere, they don't have to service you,
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because that costs them money and they don't get as much as they want.
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Yep.
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And the very idea that there was some sort of a deal about coverage for access.
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Oh, no, that's fine.
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No, but just the idea that that is the predicate to the antecedent that we're seeing now.
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That's totally fine.
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It is not fine.
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No, no, no.
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That's how government works, Dan.
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Back room deals.
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You got to give a little, get a little, you know what I'm saying?
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I don't.
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I mean, I do, but I don't.
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Well, I mean, is that any different from a guy like Roger Ailes who stands to make so
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much more money?
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Yeah, a little different.
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I disagree.
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I think it's a bigger con.
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Okay.
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I mean, it's not as good a con.
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But it is.
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It's not as good a situation there.
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They're not hiding it.
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Getting into fake local news, making it appear that these are not centralized reports from
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biased people is going to do an incredibly insidious job of radicalizing people in smaller
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communities.
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You're going to have the output of that be...
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I mean, I guess that's the same thing if they just watched Fox and Small Towns, too.
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Exactly.
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It's all bad.
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Yeah.
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It's all bad.
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It's the same thing as Roger Ailes, who stands to gain so much for Trump winning as opposed
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to...
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Isn't he dead?
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Or no, not him.
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Who's the fuck who runs Tribune?
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Who runs Fox News?
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The guy who owns it.
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I mean, Roger Ailes, but didn't he die?
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No, not the guy who owns it.
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I don't know.
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Murdoch?
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Murdoch.
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I think he's dead, too.
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No.
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All right.
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Who the fuck is it?
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Everyone's dead.
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Why don't I remember anything?
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We're dead.
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Remember?
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Oh, we are dead.
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Yeah, everyone's dead.
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Anyways.
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So this is all bad.
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Owner stands to gain a lot.
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Right.
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Trump wins because he uses his massive media company to run propaganda for him.
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Right.
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Yeah.
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So this is all bad, but we have one more clip left.
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And I'm not the kind of guy who's going to make everything a downer.
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I'm going to leave you with a punch line.
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You know, sometimes when I'm sitting around the table and your name comes up or I say
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some things that I've learned through you and through other people, they get into kind
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of games about accuracy.
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Like, well, how can you know that that's true?
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And all I got to say again and again is like, look, come on, something's off here.
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Something's wrong.
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And people like you, people like me, we don't have to be accurate.
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That's not our job.
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Our job is not to be perfect.
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We don't hold ourselves up to be perfect.
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We don't hold ourselves up to be, you know, keepers or tooth tellers or something like
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that.
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We're just pointing, as you often say, you know, you're just pointing and saying, do
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you see that big thing that's coming down the road?
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I do.
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Alex agrees.
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He's like, yeah, it's bad.
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Just having him say that it's damning to be like, you're such a star fucker that you
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will agree with Billy Corgan saying literally the opposite of how you conceive of yourself.
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Yeah.
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It's hey, listen, we don't have to be truth.
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Guys like we don't even say we're truth.
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Guys like us.
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We don't have to be accurate.
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Now.
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Never has there been a truer thing said on the Alex Jones show.
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That's probably true.
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That's amazing.
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Yeah.
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Fuck all of you.
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Not not our listeners, but definitely Billy Corgan.
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Fuck all.
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How did you do it?
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You turned me on Billy Corgan.
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I was all about celebrities are allowed to be assholes.
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And now he's a fucking asshole.
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He's the wrong kind of wrong kind of asshole.
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Yeah.
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So anyway, very disappointing.
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So anyway, power rankings, I'm a moto still the number one crazy.
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He's tops.
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Oh, man.
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Fucking.
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How is it that Alex is such a star fucker?
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So if anybody else who wasn't famous, like if even if even pachanic or somebody like
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that who is smart enough to know that he would never he would never challenge him and be
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like, listen, Alex, you're not accurate all the time.
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I was like, I'm 99% accurate.
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And even when I'm wrong, I'm right.
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Yeah, exactly.
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Yeah.
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I can see the future in New Year's New Year's info today, but back in the future.
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Right.
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Like that whole thing.
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But if it's somebody famous, he'll agree to anything you say, Billy Corgan.
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Yeah.
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And I imagine I imagine, you know, a week later when he listened back to this episode,
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he had a thought, something like this, like a lot of mistakes.
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I say stupid stuff sometimes.
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I mean, I hear my show rebroadcast and go, oh, my God, that sounds horrible.
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I don't mean that.
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Yeah, I imagine that's probably what you would like to think about.
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Solid punch.
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Solid punch line there.
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Fuck you, Alex Jones.
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Fuck you, Alex Jones.
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Fuck you, Billy Corgan.
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Congratulations on just out of nowhere choosing an amazing date to go over.
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There's a lot of bullshit in that episode.
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Yeah.
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So this has been the show.
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We've been back to 2014 and now we will come back to the present.
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Every time we do a time travel episode.
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We'd never find what we think.
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Yeah, exactly.
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Every time somebody's like, oh, this is when this big thing happened.
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I was like, I want to hear what he has to say about the torture report.
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And you're like, yes.
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But how about Hamamoto and Billy Corgan too?
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Yeah.
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How about Hamamoto and Billy Corgan more?
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Yeah, it's like, uh, torture's bad.
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Anyways, what happened to that Malaysian plane?
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Oh, Alex Jones is going to eat a hamburger covered in super male vitality.
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The fuck is going on?
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Show's ridiculous.
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Anyway, fucking love it.
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This has been fun.
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So fucking stupid.
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If you guys want to learn more about Alex Jones or us in a particular, you can go to
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Billy Corgan.
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Sure.
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We have a lot of news on him.
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We're going to do a lot more Billy Corgan pieces from now on.
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You can find us over at knowledgefight.com.
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That is our website.
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Find us writing content.
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Jordan, you got a blog up there every Thursday.
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You're throwing down some great material every, uh, whenever all the time now.
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Sure, sure, sure.
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Um, you can also follow us on Twitter at knowledge.
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We are, uh, you can go to iTunes, download it, subscribe to it.
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Why not?
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Leave a review.
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Couldn't hurt.
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All of those things.
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I don't know.
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Yeah.
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It couldn't hurt.
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I don't know if it helps.
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Couldn't.
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All right.
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That's been, may the Wolf choke on your flesh.
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Fuck you.
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So I'm, I know our website is knowledgefight.com and I think that's a pretty good name for
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our website.
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I think it's a solid name.
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I think it's a decent name.
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I was hoping for a, we love mainstream media attacks, but to be fair, there was a,
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there was a guy, uh, he's actually sitting on the domain name that I wanted.
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Really?
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Yeah.
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No way.
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What domain name?
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No more fake news.com.
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Oh, how did he get that one?
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Uh, he got it back when it was angel cities or angel fire, whatever.
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Geo cities.
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And he still has not remodeled the page.
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I'm very disappointed in it.
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Naturally.
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Go to Squarespace, John Rappaport, seriously.
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Don't advertise for Squarespace.
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We don't do ads for Squarespace unless they pay us.
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No free rides.
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That's a podcast rule.
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Cool.
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I use Squarespace and it's pretty convenient.
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All right.
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It's not an ad.
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It's just a statement of fact.
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All right.
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John Rappaport, you should really update that website cause it looks like a hot pile of
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garbage.
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And until you update that website.
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I want your URL.
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Until you update that website, John Rappaport.
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It is our duty to tell you that you can go fuck yourself, John Rappaport.
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Andy in Kansas.
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You're on the air.
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Thanks for holding.
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Hello, Alex.
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I'm a first time caller.
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I'm a huge fan.
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I love your work.
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I love you.
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