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Dan and Jordan, I am sweating.
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Knowledgefight.com, it's time to pray.
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I have great respect for Knowledgefight.
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Knowledgefight.
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I'm sick of them posing as if they're the good guys saying we are the bad guys.
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We're about to fight.
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Dan and Jordan, Knowledgefight.
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Need, I need money.
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Riddle her, riddle her, riddle her.
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Andy and Kansas.
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Andy andgie Boss.
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Stop it.
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Andy and kansas.
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Andy and Kansas.
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Andy and kansas.
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It's time to pray.
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Andy and kansas your on the air.
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Thanks for holding.
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So Alex, I'm a first time caller.
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I'm a huge fan.
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I love your room.
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Knowledgefight.
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knowledgefight.com.
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I'm Dan.
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I'm Jordan.
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We're a couple dudes.
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I'd like to sit around, worship at the altar of Selene, and talk a little bit about Alex
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Jones.
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Indeed we are, Dan.
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Jordan.
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Dan.
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Jordan.
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Quick question.
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What's up?
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What's your Bright Spot today?
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My Bright Spot is on YouTube.
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The creator Timba on Toast put out a new video that is a sequel, or a second part of a series
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about Tim Pool.
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Oh, I thought this was Australians dropping things onto toast this time.
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No, I wish.
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Oh, okay.
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I think that would be fun.
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Hey, Australians.
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Recommendation.
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Here we go, buddies.
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Drop something on a giant piece of toast to see what happens.
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No, it creates these really good in-depth analyses of some of these media figures.
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I think one of the things that is really great about it is we spend our time talking about
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Alex Jones, and I have a peripheral awareness of people like Tim Pool, and obviously we've
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looked into Project Veritas a bit, but not with the granular detail.
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And Timba on Toast has some videos that are about Tim Pool, Dave Rubin, there's a three-part
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series on Dave Rubin that he did that's fantastic.
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I know I brought up, I don't remember which video it was, I think it was the Project Veritas
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one that I've brought up in the past, but this new one just came out and it's really
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good.
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It's really good?
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And I'm really grateful about the sort of rhetorical techniques that Tim Pool uses to...
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One of the things I thought was really remarkable is there's a pretty clear demonstration that
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a lot of it is essentially passing along Info Wars narratives, just with a rhetorical style
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that makes it more purchasable to different audiences.
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Right, right, right, right.
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So I recommend people check that out.
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I think it's really good.
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Yeah.
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How about you?
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What's your bright spot?
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My favorite part is, as you know, I've been taking this yoga class for a couple of months
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now, right?
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And my favorite part of it is how it's mainly between three and six people every class.
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And it's usually the same people.
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So familiarity breeds contempt and there's nothing I love more than shitting all over
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these other people in the yoga class.
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Once me and my partner are done, we walk out there, there's this one guy who is a suck
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up and a teacher's pet.
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And it is hilarious to look at an adult man as he's like, I can do this.
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Oh, it's so funny.
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Do you find that hating on a specific person in the class makes you more motivated to do
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the class well?
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Oh, totally.
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Absolutely.
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And it's fun for me because I'm clearly the worst there's ever been at yoga.
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Like I've got all these football and baseball injuries.
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I sound like a haunted house.
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You're walking anger too.
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It's not, it doesn't, it doesn't, yelling and yoga are not compatible.
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No, it's a little bit difficult.
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Yeah.
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I found that dynamic to be like one of the things I loved the most in college too.
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Like whenever I would, every class I would choose someone to hate and it was just be
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like, you fucking dick.
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It's the only way I could stay engaged in classes that were like, were so boring.
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Oh no, I'll fucking backbend, I'll backbend better than this asshole.
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That's what I'm going to do.
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I will not be bested.
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So Jordan, today we have an episode to go over.
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It's going to be February 2nd, 2022.
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Ooh, two, two, two, two.
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Right, but 20 days from the real big one.
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Right, right, right.
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Two, two, two, two, two.
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And then like several hundred years away from a Mitch Hedberg joke.
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Yes.
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So this episode, we're going to get into a little bit of a discussion of content warning
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about it in a moment.
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But first, let's say hello to some new folks who are wonks.
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That's a great idea.
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So first, Art Ward from Dartmouth.
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Thank you so much.
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You are now a policy wonk.
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I'm a policy wonk.
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Thank you very much.
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Thank you.
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Next, Peeves Sajchenic.
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You know, Steve Pacheco.
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Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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I don't know how you pronounce Sajchenic.
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Peeves Sajchenic.
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Peeves Sajchenic?
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Yeah.
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Anyway, you're a policy wonk.
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I'm a policy wonk.
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Thank you very much.
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Thank you.
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Next, when there's nothing left to burn, you have to set yourself on fire, Alex.
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Thank you so much.
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That was a question mark at the end of it.
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That was a question mark, okay.
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You're now a policy wonk.
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I'm a policy wonk.
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Thank you very much.
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Thank you.
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Next, the wonks of policy.
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Thank you so much.
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You're now a policy wonk.
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I'm a policy wonk.
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Thank you very much to all the wonks of policy.
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Yes.
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And in honor of the Ponyboy Bloom, thank you so much.
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You are now a policy wonk.
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I'm a policy wonk.
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Thank you very much.
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And we also got a technocrat in the mix, Jordan.
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You're not going to like this.
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But thank you so much to Jordan's dislike of Pete Holmes is the rage of Caliban seeing
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his own face in the glass.
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Thank you so much.
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You are now a technocrat.
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I'm a policy wonk.
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I have risen above my enemies.
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I might quit tomorrow, actually.
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I'm just going to take a little break, you know, a little breaky for me.
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And then we're going to come back and I'm going to start the show over.
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But I'm the devil.
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I got to be taken over here.
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I've been all this.
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Fuck you.
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Fuck you.
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I got plenty of words for you, but at the end of the day, fuck you and your new world
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order and fuck the horse you rode in on and all your shit.
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Maybe today should be my last broadcast.
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Maybe I'll just be gone a month, maybe five years.
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Maybe I'll walk out of here tomorrow and you never see me again.
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That's really what I want to do.
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I never want to come back here again.
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I apologize to the crew and the listeners yesterday that I was legitimately having breakdowns
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on air.
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I'll be better tomorrow.
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So the effects of Alex's trip to the woods have worn off and he is no longer back into
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a bad mood.
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Oh boy.
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I mean, not the same kind of bad mood, but this episode, there's going to be a bit of
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it that's disgusting.
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And you know, just to give a content warning in advance, there is a bit of a discussion
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about Alex's feelings vis-a-vis child abuse and I think some of the content, some of the
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clips in that portion may be difficult to hear because they suck.
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I have tried to limit really the amount that we're going to actually listen to in the interest
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of not just sort of like rolling in Alex's mud.
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But I do think that some of it is germane to the conversation that we need to have about
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the episode as a whole.
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And honestly, this is not an episode that I can just say, eh, forget it.
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Because spoiler alert, Marjorie Taylor Greene shows up.
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And of course this is something that people are very curious about how that went down.
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When you have a sitting US Congress person on your Alex Jones show and you're also being
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very exploitative about child abuse, that's something that you should carry with her as
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well.
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Yeah, it paints a larger picture that I think is important to recognize.
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And so I would say that it's mostly the first hour of his show that is this deterioration.
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And so I would say that there's going to be a bit of this in our episode and then most
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of the rest of it is not really.
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Let's eat our vegetables and get this out of the way.
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This is not eating vegetables.
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Yeah, I mean, you know, get them out of the way first.
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But we do have an out of context drop that is fairly innocent.
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You can play the song to foxes, or eagles, or any other type of parrot you want and they're
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all gans.
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What?
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It's all God's language.
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Hell yeah.
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So if I understand correctly, if you get foxes?
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Eagles.
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Eagles.
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Yeah.
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That is an oddly specific trio.
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It brings to mind like a cartoon of Alex dancing at these animals to the Mamas and the Papas.
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It's like a fucking old-time Disney cartoon with Mickey Mouse on the steamboat.
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Yeah.
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I've been for a walk.
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Also I don't think he should...
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Don't look into the Mamas and the Papas, Alex.
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No, no, no, no.
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Yeah, that's going to get you into trouble.
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So here's our first clip and actually it's covering some COVID-related news.
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So it's also just full of shit.
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What a time to be alive.
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The wheels are absolutely coming off of everything they're doing.
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John Hopkins, which is a very diverse scientific group.
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What?
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And is the preeminent planner for the Rockefeller Foundation of the COVID attacks that we've
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all been under and the subsequent lies and fraud is now covering its ass by the very
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working group that was heavily involved with Bill Gates planning all this.
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Coming out the 60 plus page report saying lockdowns are a fraud and have killed more
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people than the virus and that the economic destruction of it is going to starve hundreds
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of millions of people to death.
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Which is true.
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One of the first things to point out here is that almost everything Alex said in that
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clip is completely made up.
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None of that means anything, including the characterization of Johns Hopkins as a quote
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diverse scientific group.
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I have no idea what he's even trying to say.
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I don't know what that means.
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It's a research university.
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Yeah.
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I don't know.
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It's a diverse scientific group.
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So the study is something that does exist, but Alex is misreporting what it is.
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It's a meta analysis that was carried out by researchers at the Johns Hopkins Institute
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for Applied Economics, Global Health and the Study of Business Enterprise.
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That is to say that it wasn't producing any new information, but it was looking at a broad
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swath of already existing studies.
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The vast majority of these studies they looked at were done by people in the field of economics
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as opposed to public health, which is a little bit of a cause for concern.
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The reason that I say that is because the goal is to look at the relationship between
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non-pharmaceutical interventions, also referred to in the study as lockdowns, these non-pharmaceutical
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interventions to the pandemic, for instance, like closing businesses, that kind of thing,
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and that relationship to the COVID mortality rate.
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And because these are economic studies, there may be some nuance that's lost by researchers
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who approach that data from that perspective of economics as opposed to epidemiology.
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A strict look at the numbers could show an approximately like 2% reduction in deaths
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from the lockdown measures, as is estimated in some of this study.
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But there may be, well, there might be intangible variables that these numbers just can't capture,
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and epidemiological studies may be able to encapsulate some of this.
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Sure, sure, sure, sure.
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So for instance, because this meta analysis is only looking at COVID mortality, it can't
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say anything about the effects of these non-pharmaceutical interventions in terms of what they might
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have had reducing the spread of COVID, which would then have a trickle-down effect to mortality.
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Even so, there's a very wide difference in findings as it relates to the studies that
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they included in this analysis.
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One area where there's a bit of complication was in looking at the effectiveness of specific
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interventions.
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Three studies out of six that included information about the effect of bar and restaurant closures
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reflected a reduction of over 28% in mortality.
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The numbers were 28.6%, 31.6%, and 50.2% in those three studies.
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That is absurdly high.
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Now, the other three studies out of the six that looked at the specifics of bar and restaurant
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closures showed essentially no effect.
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Well that's absurd!
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So there's a really wide thing.
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Our margin for error is all to zero.
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Sure.
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It is true the dynamics of school closure studies, with one of them showing a 58% reduction,
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and then three other ones showing no effect.
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So one of our big problems seems to be it's really hard to even know how to begin measuring
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what it is we're looking for the answer to our question on.
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A lot of it is pretty complicated.
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There's some other points that I would bring up that I don't feel are really addressed
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in this meta-analysis too that I think are kind of relevant.
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The first is that, at least as it relates to the US, we never really had effective lockdowns
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in place.
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And even when some businesses had to be closed for a brief window, a lot of them stayed open
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anyway.
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There was a whole lot of people who were like, no way, over my dead body!
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Giant gatherings of people were still happening, even when ostensibly gatherings were banned
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for public health concerns.
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And then of course you had the phenomenon of anti-mask assholes refusing to wear masks
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and yelling at folks and even spitting on them in public.
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The reality is that if you try to assess the effectiveness of any non-pharmaceutical intervention
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in terms of the pandemic, your data is going to reflect essentially a non-application
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of lockdown measures.
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If the effect of lockdown measures in the United States is actually only a small difference
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than what you'd expect without them, that might be because the measures themselves were
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only a small difference.
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A lot of people took things very seriously and made real changes to how they went about
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their lives with respect to public health, but there were also plenty of people who were
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so combative and childish that they felt the need to reflectively act in opposition to
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any public health guidance, just because defiance feels good to them.
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And there were really no consequences or any meaningful enforcement of lockdowns that would've
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changed their behaviors.
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The second thing I would bring up is that different states in the United States responded
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with different public health measures, and these differences have an effect on other
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states.
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It's not like the borders have any real intrinsic meaning.
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No, there's guns at the borders between, yeah.
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There wasn't interstate travel bans that were in place.
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It's like the border at Northern Ireland between Illinois and Indiana.
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I don't know if you've gone through that lately.
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This meta-analysis is largely concerned with data that was gathered regarding the first
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wave in early 2020.
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There were a bunch of states that didn't have any stay-at-home orders or lockdown orders
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at all.
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Arkansas, Iowa, Nebraska, North Dakota, South Dakota, Utah, and Wyoming all didn't pass
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any order like that.
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On the federal level, Trump didn't do anything that you would call a lockdown, like his administration
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passed travel bans.
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They closed government buildings and the CDC gave recommendations on things that governors
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could do.
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Yeah.
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It's not...
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Yeah, you know, looking back on it, I don't think he did a good job.
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Really?
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I'm going to go out on a limb and say that.
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All in all, I think that this analysis that's in this paper is useful, and it brings up
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some interesting points, but I don't believe that it's ultimately conclusive that the data
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shows that non-pharmaceutical interventions were altogether ineffective.
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Regardless of any of my feelings about the study, it's absolutely true that Alex is just
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lying about what it says, and almost certainly hasn't read it.
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He just sees a headline that sounds like something that he's, you know, he's into being put out
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by a source that he's already established as evil in his storylines, so it's being reported
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as them covering their asses by admitting that everything he's been saying has been
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true all along.
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Right.
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Also, a side point.
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If Alex is going to take this study as gospel, he's going to need to change his position
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on masks, since the studies that they reviewed showed a 21.2% reduction in deaths in places
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where mask-wearing was mandated.
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Great.
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Thankfully for Alex, he hasn't read the thing, so he doesn't even know he has to pretend
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to not know that.
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Right.
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I think probably the most effective non-pharmaceutical intervention was the billions of dollars of
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Fox News propaganda that got us all killed.
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I, I wouldn't, I'm not sure if that's a, that's an NPI.
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I don't know if Johns Hopkins studied that one.
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I don't know if they, they had the ability to capture that in their, in their, their
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variables.
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Give it a shot.
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So there's a lot of people covering their asses right now.
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Yes, it's a smart place.
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We've got Johns Hopkins, the diverse group of scientists.
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Diverse.
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Or whatever.
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I guess.
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And now Reuters.
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Reuters has come out and endorsed ivermectin and its incredible antiviral properties.
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Covering your little dirty asses, aren't you?
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Covering your dirty asses.
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Covering Reuters dirty asses.
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So Reuters didn't come out in favor of ivermectin or any of that bullshit.
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This was a headline in Reuters that was corrected because the original version was inaccurate.
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Initially the headline was, quote, Japan's Kawa says ivermectin effective against Omicron
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in phase three trial.
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This wasn't correct and Reuters editors definitely whiffed on this one because by the time the
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headline was fixed, Joe Rogan had already tweeted it out, uh, the inaccurate version
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of this.
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Cause it was seen as vindication for his anti-vex bullshit.
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And the narrative had taken hold that Reuters was admitting, uh, after all that ivermectin
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works.
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Let's do it.
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You can tell here though, if you're listening that Alex has realized the controversy here
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and he's trying to claim victory using the corrected headline, which is quote ivermectin
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shows antiviral effect against COVID Japanese company says.
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This isn't news really.
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And it's not proof that ivermectin works at all against COVID and humans.
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If I'm being perfectly honest, I don't even think that this story is something that should
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have been posted by Reuters because it's not ready to go from the article quote, the company,
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which has been working with Tokyo's Kitasato university on testing the drug as a potential
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treatment for COVID-19 did not provide further details.
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That's the extent of the information that's provided about this company Kawa and their
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research into ivermectin.
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They say they're doing research that there's an unspecified antiviral effect and that they
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didn't say anything else.
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That's not newsworthy and it's a prime opportunity to make an unforced error that can be exploited
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by anti-vex assholes, which is exactly what happened with this bad headline.
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There's a misleading nature about engaging with this story on a surface level as Alex
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does with every story.
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It's entirely possible that Kawa did a study and found that ivermectin has an antiviral
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effect against COVID in a test tube because scientists have demonstrated that before with
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ivermectin and even hydroxychloroquine.
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Many things can show effects in a test tube that they do not have in the human body.
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A lot of the times that we've seen these anti-vex people pretending not to be anti-vex, when
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they get over-invested in claiming that various things are like COVID treatments, it's usually
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because something showed an effect in an in vitro study and then they pretend that this
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effect must naturally apply to in vivo settings.
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So anyway, Reuters completely fucked up here for no reason, but the underlying reality
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is that Alex is totally wrong about this story, and Reuters is not trying to cover their dirty
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asses by coming out in favor of ivermectin.
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That's just completely detached from reality, and it's nothing more than the figments of
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Alex's imagination that he's passing off his reporting and an attempt to piggyback Joe
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Rogan's shit.
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That is very frustrating.
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It is.
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I mean, it's, you know, it's not like the stakes for real news are high at all.
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It's not like any single mistake could result in still further cementing of the pointlessness
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of mainstream media for so many people.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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No big deal.
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No big deal.
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I wonder about, like I said, the necessity of even putting this article out in the first
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place.
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It doesn't really seem like it, even with the corrected headline, I'm not certain it
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adds much to the public conversation.
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No, if your editor reads the main subject of the article did not provide further details,
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then you have kill the story or make the article about how they did not provide further details
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and they fucking should.
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Right.
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That's it, you know?
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The only thing that I can kind of see is that, like, again, it's a rigged game because you
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report the story, and then people like Alex will be like, how they say ivermectin works,
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you don't report it, and then...
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Why aren't you reporting on this story about how ivermectin works?
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Exactly.
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Yeah, yeah, no, I understand.
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It becomes proof of a cover-up.
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Right.
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It's just a dumb game these assholes play.
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Right, you just don't need to make your own goals, you know?
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Sure, sure.
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So a lot of ass covering.
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Some dirty asses, some not so dirty asses.
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CNN.
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Is anybody covering their clean, pristine asses?
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That's not specified.
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Okay.
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But yeah, so CNN also is getting in the ass covering business.
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Okay.
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Jeff Zucker.
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Ooh.
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The America-hating AT&T hatchet man for this country.
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Yeah, that sounds right.
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Has now resigned, and they always use the fallen-of-the-sword excuse of, oh, because
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he was having a relationship that was inappropriate with somebody that worked there.
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Yeah, the big crime is men and women having sex, and God forbid any children come along.
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It wasn't lying, it wasn't infiltrating groups, it wasn't overseeing the persecution of millions
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of people that CNN would covertly and overtly target and have deplatformed.
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This is interesting, because what we're seeing at the beginning of this show is Alex trying
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to do a roundup of news stories that he's using to paint a picture that the enemies
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are in retreat.
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Yeah.
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Johns Hopkins admits lockdowns are a fraud, Reuters is trying to get down with Ivermectin,
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and CNN has fired Jeff Zucker because Alex got kicked off Twitter.
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The thought process is stupid, but you can clearly see the feeling that he wants to sell
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to the audience.
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Now, I don't know exactly what's going on with this Zucker situation, but even if you
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take the public-facing story as gospel, it's reason for him to step down.
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Chris Cuomo was fired recently, and because the termination involved unethical behavior,
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there was an investigation.
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In the course of that investigation, it came out that Zucker had been having an undisclosed
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romantic relationship with CNN's executive vice president and chief marketing officer,
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and because of the impropriety of that, he resigned.
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If the relationship is as on the up and up as Zucker claims, the fact that he didn't
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disclose it is something that is on its own, that's outside what's appropriate in terms
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of business ethics.
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Yeah.
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The president of a company being in a secret relationship with the executive vice president
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and chief marketing officer is not best practices.
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There's a further air of ethical problems here, and it's something that you can see
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conspiracy theorists shooting out, and that is that prior to being at CNN, the woman who
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Zucker was in an undisclosed relationship with, Alison Golost, was a communications
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director for Andrew Cuomo, Chris Cuomo's brother.
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This could honestly mean nothing, but the appearance of it raises some questions which
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make the non-disclosure of the relationship more disconcerting.
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Ultimately, however, it should be pointed out, if you're going to talk about that kind
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of thing, Golost was only with the Cuomo administration for four months in 2013, and prior to that
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she'd worked at NBC Universal for over 15 years, which incidentally was where Zucker
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was prior to him heading to CNN.
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Their relationship clearly goes back a long distance in terms of its, on a professional
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level, and being contemporaries.
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The path into the Cuomo administration is more of a blip, but it does create an appearance.
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No, no, I understand.
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I'm just saying that the writer needs to add more characters, okay?
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It seems kind of silly that there's only like five people in New York City and everybody
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works with the Cuomo's, God damn it.
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I'm sick of this.
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There are more characters in this story, okay?
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Yeah.
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So I'm not sure exactly what's up here, but I feel like the Cuomo connection is a bit
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too speculative to put too much stock into, but it does obviously raise questions.
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And the reported version of the story on its own is enough to merit his resignation.
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Alex wants to make this about CNN punishing men and women for having sex, but it's really
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more about breaches of professional ethics.
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Yeah.
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I'm sure that CNN doesn't much care who has sex with anybody else there, as long as it's
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all above board and there aren't very serious liabilities and conflicts of interest.
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Yeah, it does seem like this is very much more like, what are we doing here?
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To me, that's my story.
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That's what I'm reading here is like, what were you guys doing?
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Get out of here.
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Stop this.
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That's it.
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I'm not even mad at them.
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It's just like, no, this is wrong.
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Get out of here.
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Yeah.
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I want to get a broom and sweep them out of CNN.
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Yeah.
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Well, I mean, there isn't anything necessarily wrong with the president of a company and
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the executive vice president having a relationship, considering they have worked closely together
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for 20 years.
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We're both divorced.
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Sure.
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I don't think that there's anything wrong as long as you're upfront about it.
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Yeah.
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It seems obvious that you should just be upfront about it.
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Yeah.
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You have to report those kinds of things to HR.
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If you're in middle management and you're dating an employee or something, or even you're
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dating somebody who's on the same level as you in the company flow chart, you still need
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to report these things to HR because of potential problems that they could raise.
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Yeah.
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Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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It's very basic business ethics.
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Also, I really just don't feel like you need that extra element.
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I know I get the salacious element of like, ooh, they were fucking, and also she worked
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for the Cuomo campaign, but it's like, fucking Chris is a media guy.
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He's a media executive.
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They go to the same parties and shit, you know?
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She has a history in communication, so it's not...
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That's why I'm saying that the connection is too speculative to really put too much
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stock into, but if you ignore it, it feels like ignoring something that looks weird.
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Sure, sure.
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I'm just saying all these rich assholes in New York media and in politics all go to the
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same fucking parties.
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They don't need a relationship with a superior or whatever.
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Sure.
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And then when something as obvious as you need to report these kinds of things to HR,
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when those things aren't followed, it creates the appearance that they weren't followed
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for a reason.
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Exactly.
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And then people try to look for that reason.
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And that's why you follow them in the first place.
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That's one of the reasons.
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Yes.
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So anyway, Alex has got all these stories and it's leading up to, hey man, the whole
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New World Order is falling apart.
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The wheels are coming off, the house of cards is collapsing.
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The New World Order is in deep, deep, deep, deep trouble.
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They knew their system was going down.
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They knew it was a Ponzi scheme and they wanted to pose as the saviors when their Ponzi scheme
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went down so they wouldn't go to jail like Bernie Madoff.
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But instead all over the world, leaders are standing up in government, in industry and
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in media and academia and in the clergy and just common people on the street at city council
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and school board meetings and are calling it out and the public is rapidly getting up
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to speed on the great reset, the New World Order and the divide and conquer stratagems.
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Woo!
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Woo!
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Ric Flair.
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So a couple of quick points about this clip.
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One, I see that Alex is in a we're totally winning type mood today, which is fun.
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At least that means he's high energy and he's not going to mope around like he does in the
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We're Already Dead episodes.
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I'm glad that we're not already dead today.
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Yeah, I'm not in the mood for that.
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Me neither.
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Two, declaring that the New World Order is falling apart is a stupid move for Alex because
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it makes it harder for him to then claim that they're a huge threat later on, like a year
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or two down the road.
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That's not really a concern for Alex though since his audience has completely forgotten
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and ignored how he's been telling them that the New World Order is on the brink of collapse
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for like 20 years.
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Three, who cares about people complaining at city council meetings?
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We already know from Alex's own reporting that the New World Order has a plan B that
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they can carry out if things look like their plans are falling apart, which is releasing
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super bio weapons to kill everyone off.
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Right.
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Based on Alex's own broadcasts, there is no winning, especially not by yelling conspiracy
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shit at city council meetings about the New World Order's evil plans.
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If anything, that would seem like a good way to make them panic and release those super
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bio weapons.
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Honestly, if Alex believed a single word that came out of his own mouth, then every moment
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he spent on air that wasn't about teaching the audience how to grow their own food and
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collect rainwater is a fucking waste of time.
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Anyway, the Patriots are winning now, which is a mood that I'm sure will pass before too
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long, and Alex go back to pretending that he never said that the New World Order was
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crumbling and they were a real serious threat.
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None of this means anything.
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It's just the equivalent of a play-by-play guy on the radio describing a sports game
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that he's imagining.
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Yeah, I mean, it does seem like if you know your enemy's plan B is kill everybody, then
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your most important job is to hide that you know that until you can neutralize the kill
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everybody strategy.
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You know what I'm saying?
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But if it's impossible to neutralize the kill everyone strategy-
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While you're telling everybody about it.
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Then what you gotta do is lay low- Exactly!
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And very, very aggressively try to promote to like-minded people ways in which they can
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create community and the possibility of mitigating the damage that's done by the kill-off thing
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that is inevitable.
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Yes, exactly.
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That would make sense.
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Right.
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Right.
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Or, now, because here's my problem with that.
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How do I get rich?
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I think you should interview Marjorie Taylor-Green.
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That'll do it.
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Yeah.
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It's a good way to get attention.
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So, you know, obviously we know that the plan B is the Superbio attack.
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Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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However, there are winter storms that are going through Texas and most of the south.
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Right.
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So that means that it's time to, you know, really lay into the prediction of a cyber
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attack.
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Oh, a cyber attack.
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Cyber attack.
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To take down the grid.
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Yes.
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There we go.
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Instead of the Superbio.
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Right.
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Let me give you the big kahuna.
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And when I talk about this, I start getting chills up and down my spine because my spirit,
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my gut, my intellect knows I'm over the target.
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And it's not hard to be able to target Klaus Schwab, that murderous criminal Hitler 5.0.
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What?
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Where's, where's tooths through four?
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Has been drooling and giddy and giggling with how there's going to be a giant terrorist
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will take down the power and it'll be terrible, but it'll help the earth and it will make
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COVID look like happy time.
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Okay.
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And they're going to cyber attack us if they think they can get away with it.
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And if they think that they won't get caught and they think you're stupid, they're going
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to pull it maybe next week, maybe next month, maybe next year.
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But then they've got their finger on the red button because why, even if it comes out later,
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they know they control the federal police forces of every major Western nation.
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I don't know.
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I don't know.
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When did they do that?
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I would say, I don't know, but I would say that a prediction of could happen next week,
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next month or next year is a meaningless prediction.
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No, no, no, no.
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It could happen at any time.
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Right.
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It's like death, an aneurysm, the rapture, et cetera.
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They're all at any moment in time.
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I remember a number of years back, a friend convinced me to go see like a palm reader.
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Okay.
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All right.
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I remember the palm reader being like, someone in your family will get sick.
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No.
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No.
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Who?
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When?
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Exactly.
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No, I'm not.
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Get out of here.
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Yeah.
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No tip.
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I'm not tipping.
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No tip?
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Are you supposed to tip?
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I think so.
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I assume so.
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It's a service.
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I don't know.
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I don't know.
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It's customary.
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You're supposed to tip when you get a haircut.
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Well, I mean, I would assume it's a little bit different.
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I did.
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Yeah.
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I paid because, you know, I agreed to it.
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Right.
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Right.
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Right.
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Yeah.
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This one's on you.
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Yeah.
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But the tip is, yeah.
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I should have known it would be that vague.
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Well, you know.
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Another prediction was someone will die, but they're old.
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Ah, you know, Dan, I can see just from your, the way you're holding yourself right now
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that you're a closed off person, but sometimes you're very gregarious.
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Oh, man.
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So anyway, what Alex is doing is just hedging his bets in case these winter storms that
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are heading to Austin and the surrounding areas knock out the power like they did last
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year or in case another winter storm does the same in another city.
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He's preloading a conspiracy so he can make a narrative out of that and pretend that he
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predicted a false flag attack, thereby boosting his credentials as somebody who really gets
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what the bad guys are doing.
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There are power outages all the time from inclement weather.
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When I lived in Missouri, there were like bad thunderstorms and the power would go out
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periodically.
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Yep.
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Just this past week, hundreds of thousands of people lost power in the Northeast due
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to winter storm Keenan and, you know, in advance of these storms coming to Texas, Governor
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Abbott has come out and said that power outages may happen.
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There's no shortage of things that Alex could try to portray as a cyber attack should he
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want to, which is why this particular instance of him trying to create a preemptive conspiracy
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narrative just comes off as desperate, really transparent, no good.
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Yeah.
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Governor in charge of things.
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Sorry, dudes, nothing we can do.
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Mm-hmm.
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Mm-hmm.
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Yep.
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So Alex gets to reading the headline of his own show, the live feed broadcast.
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I'm fascinated by this because it's essentially all lies.
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Okay.
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We'll put on screen if we can the live show feed headline for today, but I hope listeners
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and viewers will share because you are the equation.
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You are the resistance.
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When you decide to share the broadcast, it overrides the sensors.
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It gets past big tech.
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It gets past the corporate globalist and we score major victories for hearts and minds.
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Wednesday live, Reuters endorses Ivermectin, CNN's Zucker resigns as world awakens to globalist
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lies, fraud and murder.
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Marjorie Taylor Greene will be joining Alex Jones live on air.
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Don't miss the most censored broadcast in the world.
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And then it continues on dealing with what the globalists are up to and how the world
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is awakening to them.
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And not even John Hopkins has confirmed we already knew massive starvation and death
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caused by lockdowns, massive suicide, drug overdoses, roughly 10 times the number of
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people died from the lockdowns and actually died from the virus, even if you believe official
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numbers.
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And again, it's just massive information.
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We've got all of that here for you today.
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The only thing like in the headline that I would see as like being true is that Marjorie
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Taylor Greene is coming up.
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Yeah.
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I guess that's all just bullshit.
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So is he trying to tell me that 8.75 million people died in the lockdown while I wasn't
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paying attention?
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No, he's saying that like a lot of those deaths are secretly not COVID.
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Oh, okay.
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I'm sure.
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All right.
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Okay.
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Otherwise, I mean like the alternative that you're describing is absurd.
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It's pretty absurd.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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So the rest of this is all bullshit.
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And he's often announced guests ahead of time and him putting her name in the show description
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and the title of the broadcast, I think is a pretty clear piece of evidence that he's
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trying to troll for attention.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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I think that is very clearly part of his agenda.
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Yeah.
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I mean, a sitting Congress person is a get for him.
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For sure.
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Definitely.
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Yeah.
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Definitely.
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And if he's got a get, we're going to know about it.
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It's something that you want to put out there on Main Street.
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Right.
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And also you hope that people will cover it in order to really signal boost this thing.
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Right.
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Right.
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You let the MyPillow guy pay to lie and bitch about things that didn't happen.
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And now you got Marjorie Taylor Greene.
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You're going to talk about it.
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You know what?
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If I respected Mike Lindell, this wouldn't actually do it, but I would respect him a
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little bit more if he forced Alex to let him do limericks.
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Ooh, that would be great.
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Like if he was a fan, like an old school fan of Alex's show and knew what kind of power.
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If he was a classic.
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If he was an Info Wars classic guy.
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Yeah.
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Just as a throwback to the soap guy, Marty Schachter.
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I don't think he should be able...
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I don't think he should do limericks.
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He's got to come up with his own thing.
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Maybe haikus.
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I would be...
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If Mike Lindell...
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He doesn't have the patience.
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Oh, I'd love it.
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To deliver.
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I'd love it.
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So here we go.
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We're about to get into the messy section of this, where Alex gets into a story about
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a S-U-N-Y professor, a guy at the University of Fredonia, who has made some, I would say
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troubling, awful comments.
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Oh no, that's not good.
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And so here we go.
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You know, this story just broke on Twitter last night and I tell you, my biggest tipster,
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my two biggest tipsters who send me stuff that I wouldn't even have known about.
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So it ended up kind of going viral on an Info Wars, as Paul Watson wrote about it early
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this morning, is the great Joe Rogan.
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And he sent me this last night and I spent about an hour watching videos of this guy.
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So I sent it over to Paul when I went to bed about midnight and I said, please write about
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this in the early morning.
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And there's six hours ahead of us.
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So six, seven, eight hours later, this article was up.
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And the reason I name dropped the Joe Rogan thing is it's just, that's kind of a hat tip
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to where I get so many of my, it's like the circle is now complete, you know, like used
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to, I would send Joe the stuff and now he sends me the stuff.
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And but I'm going to talk about this coming up next segment.
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Sonny professor says it's a mistake to think about pedophilia as being wrong.
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So as we go through this, keep in mind that this is inspired by something that Joe Rogan
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sent him.
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So this is the influence of Rogan sort of coming back around.
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If the circle is complete, then somebody cut Alex Jones in half with a lightsaber, okay?
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If we're going to complete the circle, then fucking do it.
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This is the boomerang effect of Alex's misinformation, theoretically radicalizing Joe to the point
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where he now is sending Alex information to sensationalize and cover.
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So this is actually a rare instance where Alex has a narrative about pedophilia that's
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actually not based on totally bizarre, grotesque, imaginary things.
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This is about the SUNY Fredonia philosophy professor, Steven Kirchner, who made some
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comments that were definitely not great in a video that we're making the rounds online
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the other night.
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I didn't watch the whole video, but the clip that was posted all over the place, he doesn't
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actually say that pedophilia is good, but he's suggesting that it's quote, not obvious
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to him why sex with a minor is wrong.
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This is splitting hairs on my part, and I think it's very fair to say that the realm
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of conversation that he was getting into was not appropriate and fucked up.
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I got a really heavy libertarian vibe off this guy, particularly since one of the things
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he was talking about a lot was the age of consent, and how that issue is on a spectrum.
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This is a theme you hear a lot from libertarians.
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And that's why I wasn't surprised to learn that Kirchner is on the editorial board of
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the journal Reason Papers, which purports to be free of any intellectual or philosophical
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tradition, but also posts a whole lot of articles about weird libertarian concerns.
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Like in the fall 2011 issue, which Kirchner wrote two pieces for, there's an article titled
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quote, how a libertarian might oppose same-sex marriage.
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One of the articles that he wrote in that issue.
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By not being a libertarian in any meaningful sense of the word.
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Maybe.
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One of the articles that he wrote in that issue was titled quote, extremely harsh treatment,
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which was a libertarian defense of torture.
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Hey, great.
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Where he tried to get around the whole obvious philosophical objections that someone would
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have as a libertarian.
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Right.
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And none of this is in any way to excuse Kirchner's recent comments.
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It's just to say that this is kind of standard behavior for libertarians.
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Right.
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You can find plenty of memes online that are based just on the broad awareness that libertarians
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are really weird about age of consent issues.
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It's a creepy thing they do.
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It's very consistent.
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If you look a little further into this guy's publishing career, you'll find a 2007 paper
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he wrote for the Law and Philosophy Journal titled quote, for discrimination against women,
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where you might be able to guess that he argued in favor of discrimination against women.
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What are you going to do specifically in the context of admissions for law, medical and
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business schools?
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Well, it could hurt their brains, Dan.
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In 2020, he published another paper specifically arguing that, quote, philosophy departments
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at state universities may discount women's applications.
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Sure.
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I mean, they can't handle all those big concepts like it's OK to fuck children.
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In 2018, he took the time to write a whole ass paper on how specifically being attracted
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to Asian people, quote, is not wrong because it does not infringe on someone's moral right.
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This guy is just writing weird things about himself to the rest of us and then hiding
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it behind philosophy.
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In 2003, he wrote an article titled, quote, a liberal argument for slavery, the abstract
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of which starts like this, quote, the slavery contract is not a rights violation since the
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right not to be enslaved and the right not to give out a benefit are waivable and the
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conjunction of their voluntary waiver is not itself a rights violation.
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The case for the contract being pejoratively exploitative is not clear.
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You are ruining words for me, sir.
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They're bad when they come out of your mouth.
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This guy is a super annoying libertarian philosophy professor.
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And if you check his public publishing history closely, you'll even find that in 2001, he
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wrote a paper titled, quote, the moral status of harmless adult child sex, wherein he argues
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about what you might guess from the title.
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This is a position he's posited for a while, which doesn't mean that people shouldn't be
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offended or pushed back against it.
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It's just that he's a libertarian and people in that philosophical tradition have this
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conversation a lot.
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Yeah.
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And he's been doing it for 20 years.
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Yeah.
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It sucks because this seems like one of those classic you went viral for shit that people
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just didn't know was regularly common in that, in that world, you know, like if you walked
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into any, if you walked into any shitty bar where there was a libertarian conversation
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happening after three or four drinks, eventually someone's going to be like, you know what?
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I don't understand.
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And then it's all shit from there on out.
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Sure.
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Sure.
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I mean, like, I was looking at the issue of his journal that, you know, that he wrote
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these articles in, the Reason papers, and there was an article in it that was written
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by Walter Block, who's another libertarian professor who, if you'd like, it's fairly
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enjoyable.
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You can hear a couple of debates that he did with Sam Seder on the majority report.
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And this issue does come up in that debate too.
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Of course it does.
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They just can't get away from it.
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It's weird.
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Because it's, because it's the most easily like attention grabbing.
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And so when they do that, they're like, ha ha, now you're forced to engage in an emotional
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space and you're fucked because they're stupid.
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So the New York Post, there's an article about this video that had come out and it says that
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the clip appears to come from his appearance on this podcast called The Unregistered Podcast,
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which is hosted by Thaddeus Russell, which is actually incorrect, but it's hard to tell
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that immediately.
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So I ended up looking into The Unregistered Podcast because I took the New York Post assessment
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at its word.
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And it turns out that's a kind of a pretty right leaning podcast.
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The most recent episode was a chat about the evils of CRT with James Lindsay, who was actually
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recently a guest on Rogan's Podcast, which is cool.
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Yeah.
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You know, if you want to ban CRT, it would make it a lot easier to get to slavery again.
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Hey, that's an interesting thought experiment.
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This interview with Kirchner on The Unregistered Podcast is from December 2020.
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And in the episode description, Thaddeus calls him, quote, the most renegade academic I've
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found.
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I went and I tried to listen to this podcast to see if maybe the comments were taken out
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of context.
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And let me tell you, they were not, if this was actually where it was from.
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If anything, the short clips are a generous portrayal of this guy's views, and Kirchner
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says way more fucked up stuff in that full interview that I'm not even going to play
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here to make the point.
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So here's the thing that I wasn't expecting when I listened to this podcast.
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The host, Thaddeus Russell, is absolutely 100% in agreement with Kirchner.
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Of course he is!
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The two of them are lamenting how much grief they take from people because they insist
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on arguing that having sex with minors is maybe actually a good thing.
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Sure.
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What's weird is that there are tons of tweets and articles on right-wing blogs calling for
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Kirchner's firing and turning him into a villain, but not that many talking about Russell and
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how the entire interview that the two of them did sound like veterans in the battle against
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Age of Consent laws shooting the shit, telling war stories.
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That's real weird.
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In some fairness, some people are actually making that connection, and that CRT dude,
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James Lindsay, he tweeted out that he's not going to be teaching a CRT class with Russell
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now that this has come out.
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Because the connection, it's so weird, like all of the outrage about this clip of Kirchner
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has been attached to this interview that he did on the Unregistered podcast, even though
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it was in a different setting, but if you go listen to that podcast, he is talking very
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in-depth about the same issues.
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Unreal.
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So yeah, it's all a mess.
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Unreal.
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The thing that I found even weirder is that just before the conversation about this stuff
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on their podcast, Russell is doing ad reads for Headspace and a CBD sponsor.
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Get the fuck out!
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This dude who's hosting the podcast wrote an article in the Daily Beast in 2009 about
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how maybe Roman Polanski wasn't so wrong.
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Great!
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Because that's who Headspace and the CBD company want to throw their support behind.
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Anyway, also, you're going to hate this, but one of his first guests was Connor Frieder's
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story.
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Yeah!
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I mean, you know, I love how these guys are such renegade professors who have been saying
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the same bullshit about how it's fucked up that age of consent laws exist for 30-20 odd
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years or whatever.
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Yeah, Kirchner's been on this beat since 2001, at least from his publishing history.
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This guy wrote about the Polanski shit in 2009.
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And at no point in time are they like, oh, did you know that some innocent-ass English
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professor somewhere was like, Israel is probably an apartheid state, and then was fired for
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no real reason?
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Like, that's...
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You guys don't have any consequences!
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Right.
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So I went down this path looking at the unregistered podcast because that's where the New York
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Post had led me to believe this was from.
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Right.
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And that that is inaccurate.
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The actual source of this interview is a video on a YouTube channel called Brain and a Vat,
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which as of the time of preparing this episode, that video itself has under 3,700 views.
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And this is an outlier in terms of it being a very high number of views for videos on
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this channel.
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Brain and a Vat.
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It'd be very difficult to stumble across this.
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Whereas the interview, the unregistered podcast is a much more popular podcast, very clearly.
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And so...
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So it's an easier Google search, basically.
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Yeah, it's very strange, and I don't understand fully how this outrage cycle happened.
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Yeah, I'm confused.
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Who found this?
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Why?
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Because almost nobody watched this video, to be given.
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And it's not that I don't care.
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But it's like...
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I'm curious.
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This shouldn't be a big deal for us right now.
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You know what I'm saying?
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It's a big deal because Alex is making it a big deal.
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I think that this guy's comments are fucked up and bad.
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Agreed.
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No, agreed.
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I also think that they're within the realm of what you hear from Libertarians a bit.
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Yeah.
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So anyway, this Brain and a Vat video, I didn't watch the whole thing, mostly because Kirchner
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was just saying the same stuff he said in the other interview that I did waste my time
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listening to.
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The hosts of this one weren't seeming to be as enthusiastic in their agreement with him,
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or even necessarily showing agreement with him, from the stuff I saw, but I don't know
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if at some point they do.
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Anyway, this is a libertarian philosophy professor doing stuff that's not too surprising to see
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a libertarian philosophy professor getting into.
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Even though he published an article on this topic in 2001, and seems to have a bit of
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a pattern of being willing to expound on the issues on podcasts and public appearances,
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and he published a whole book about it in 2015, apparently SUNY Fredonia had no idea
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about his opinions, and released a statement that his views are reprehensible, and that
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quote, the matter is under review.
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To be clear, I think it's fine that the matter is under review, but if you're going to enact
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any punishment on Kirchner about this, you should probably also do some real serious
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fact-finding about how you could have missed this very obvious view that he has, but has
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been making extremely public for the last 20 years.
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Yeah.
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If you read him on the payroll, if this is reprehensible to you.
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Yeah, it does seem like you guys really dropped the ball on that one.
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I mean, considering it's supposedly your job to make sure that they continue publishing
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and the like.
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Yeah.
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Yeah, so it's really strange.
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I mean, this guy is, like, the comments are obviously bad, and they're not acceptable,
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really, I don't think.
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And if he's a philosophy professor...
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I think it's stopping short of encouraging or saying these things are good.
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Right, right, right, right.
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But I'm guessing he does a lot of Greek philosophy in his class.
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I think he appreciates the Socratic method, from what I understand, and yeah, it's really
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fucked up, but at the same time, Alex does not deal with this in terms of the reality
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of these comments.
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He takes it in a completely other direction, and actually even misrepresents the nature
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of what is being said.
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He writes books about it.
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I'm going to say that again.
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Sex with one-year-olds is good, yes, this is good, and he has a bunch of other professors
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agreeing with him, and of course, they all look like Brian Stelter.
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I'm not saying Brian Stelter's a pedophile, I'm saying he looks like one.
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I mean, look at this guy, he has the same weird look like Brian Stelter has, okay?
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Alex can't deal with these subjects with any kind of seriousness.
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I'm not going to get too deep into the weeds, and I'm not investing any energy in defending
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Kirchner's comments, but Alex is misrepresenting them.
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Kirchner was talking about alleged reports in, quote, some cultures of grandmothers filleting
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children to calm them down when they're colicky.
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He says that he doesn't know if these reports are true, or if it's an effective treatment,
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but if those things were true, he doesn't understand what would be wrong about that
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action.
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That's messed up, I don't agree with Kirchner, and I think it's a bad line of inquiry to
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go down, but also, Alex is not dealing with what he's actually saying.
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Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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It's a mess.
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Yeah, yeah, I mean, here's what I would say to that argument.
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Why and go away?
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Just why?
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Were you not busy?
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You've got something else to do other than make that argument.
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You know?
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You could put together a fence.
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I think that there is a strain of contrarianness within the libertarian philosophy, and an
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obsession with these rigid ideas about self-ownership and what have you, and I think that they're
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a bad combination.
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It would be nice if there was a strain of birdhouse building in libertarians, you know?
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Like, instead of this contrarianism that makes everybody pissed off and annoyed, go build
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a birdhouse!
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It would be a good use of time.
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I think it's a great use of time!
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So Alex uses this to get into larger topics of his feelings about abuse towards children,
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and that's partially because he doesn't actually know what this story is about Kirchner.
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He doesn't look into it at all.
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He can't really talk about it with any depth, and so he needs to just use it as a launching
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pad for him to do his normal bullshit, and so here is something that is fairly innocuous
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in terms of not being too disgusting, but also I think is very illuminating.
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So most of the people you see now, you notice they don't have children, the EU heads, because
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the majority of EU heads were involved in child sex slavery and torture as the recipients,
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as the victims, and then as victimizers.
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So the EU's executive branch is known as the European Commission, which includes 27 members.
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The current president is Ursula von der Leyen, who has seven children.
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There are three executive vice presidents.
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Franz Timmermans has four children, Margath Vestager has three children, and the third
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Valdis Dobrovakis doesn't have any children, so there's one.
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There are four vice presidents.
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Markos Sefkovic has three children, Vera Jurova has two, Dobrovka Swika has one, and Margaritas
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Sinis has two.
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So almost all of these people have kids.
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The stuff Alex is saying is just completely made up from his imagination.
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It would make sense that the EU leadership wouldn't have children if they were intent
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on breaking up the family and destroying everything, and thus it must be true that they don't have
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kids, even if almost all of them do.
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No, no, no, no.
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What you do is you have a predetermined conclusion and then work backwards from there.
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By making things up.
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Exactly.
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Yes.
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Because the reality doesn't fit the predetermined conclusion, and it feels better if you're
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right.
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Yeah.
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I'm going to be overly generous to Alex and pretend that he meant the heads of countries
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that are members of the EU, but even then, things get dumb really fast.
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There are 27 member states of the EU, and here's a rapid fire of the country and the
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number of kids their head of state has.
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All right.
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I like it.
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Austria, two kids.
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Belgium, two kids.
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Bulgaria, two kids.
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Croatia, two kids.
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Cyprus, two kids.
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Czech Republic, two kids.
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Denmark, two kids.
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All right.
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This is getting freaky, man.
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I'm not liking this now.
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Now I'm believing there's a weirder conspiracy going on.
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The two kid conspiracy.
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The two kid conspiracy.
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But here's where it changes the matter.
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What's going on?
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Germany, three kids.
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Uh oh.
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Finland, three kids.
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France, no kids.
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Germany, one kid.
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Greece, one kid.
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All right.
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Hungary, four kids.
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That's the president.
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But if you want to talk about the prime minister, Viktor Orbán, he has five kids.
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Yeah.
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Ireland, four kids.
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Italy, three kids.
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Latvia, two kids.
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Lithuania, two kids.
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Luxembourg, no kids, but their head of state is gay and he just got married in 2015.
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Right.
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Malta, three kids.
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Netherlands, none.
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Ooh, there's one more example.
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Poland, one kid.
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Portugal, two kids.
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Romania, no kids.
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Oh my God.
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Slovakia, two kids.
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Slovenia, one kid.
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Spain, two kids.
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Sweden, two kids.
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That was excessive and I apologize for putting you through that, but I did decide to not
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say all the heads of state.
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You had to do it.
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But I also didn't say all their names because I struggled through those pronunciations.
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You had no shot there.
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I think it's important though to lay this out in detail to really make sure that the
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picture is clear, that there is no basis for the things that Alex says.
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He just makes up things that make his narrative seem more persuasive or feel right to him
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in the moment and then he asserts them as fact.
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And not just fact, but actually proof of a larger conspiracy that he's trying to sell
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his audience.
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It's important to understand this dynamic because it's not a behavior that he uses sparingly
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and if his audience approached his claims with even a basic level of scrutiny, a lot
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of them would collapse, having been shown to just be stuff that he's making up.
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And he's engaging with a topic as sensitive and serious as child sexual abuse with the
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level of disrespect and irresponsibility that he's showing here, which should really
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disqualify him as a person you should take seriously about anything.
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Yeah, and it shouldn't even take you two seconds to be like, well that doesn't make any sense.
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Look at our presidents.
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Look at our fucking elected leaders, period.
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Most of them, the vast majority of them, an absurd majority of them, have children and
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are in a nuclear of style family because we associate that right or wrong with a more
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stable thought process.
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That's what we've always done.
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That's how it goes.
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Of course in other nations, they would do the same.
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Here's what's going on.
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I'm going to let you in on a secret.
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Alex is just imagining Emmanuel Macron and then he's universalizing the fact that Macron
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doesn't have any kids and now everybody doesn't.
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That's basically what's going on.
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How many members, not, I'm not even going to ask for countries because that would, there's
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no chance there.
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How many heads of state could he name in the EU?
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Like honestly, let me look at this list because I guarantee you his number one answer would
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be Boris Johnson and they're not in the fucking EU anymore.
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I think he could go for Macron, probably Orban, maybe.
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Well he would, I mean, that's his only friend in the EU.
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I don't even know if he would remember his name though too.
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I think he'd say like that guy in Hungary who hates Soros.
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The guy who's strong and powerful.
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I'm looking at this list and I don't think I've heard Alex say any of these other names.
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Maybe Duda in Poland is the white nationalism association.
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Right, yeah, that one helps.
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But I don't know.
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I don't think he knows his name either.
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And it's not hard to remember.
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It's Duda.
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Duda.
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Duda.
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Duda.
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Camptown races going straight through Poland.
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So Alex, he takes some sidetracks in terms of talking about this larger story about abuse
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against children and weaves it into other things like, I don't know, COVID vaccine narratives.
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The Pentagon's main AI program confirmed 300 to 500% increases in microcarditis and heart
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attacks, multi-thousand percent increases in neurological disorders.
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It just goes on and on.
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And they confirmed that four months ago with the first eight, nine months of data.
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Now the rest of the data's out.
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We talked about it yesterday and it's the raw Pentagon data, not theirs, but right from
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the hospitals, right from the files.
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And of course it's exactly what the FDA knew and the CDC back in October of 2020 before
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the single injection was given.
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They knew exactly what it would do and there it is on screen.
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And the enemies of freedom over at CNN and the other pedophile mouthpieces, the other
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vampire mouthpieces, that's what they are, psychic vampires.
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They just use words like, oh, discredited disinformation, but they never say what the
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disinformation is.
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They never show you what they're talking about like we do.
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They lie to you.
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See they're lying about Alex lying.
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We tell you what disinformation we're giving you.
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So this Pentagon thing is just a lie that Alex is taking from Senator Ron Johnson.
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He had a recent panel on COVID vaccine side effects.
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One of the reports that was presented showed surprisingly high rates of fairly serious
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side effects.
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This was presented by an attorney named Thomas Renz who was claiming that he got this information
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from Defense Medical Epidemiology Database, which was provided to him by three alleged
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whistleblowers.
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The thrust of this data was that conditions like cancer, miscarriages, and neurological
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issues were way up compared to data from years prior to the vaccine being rolled out.
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The problem, however, was that Renz had bad data or at least data that he didn't do a
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thorough job of vetting.
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Oh, missed it.
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So Lead Stories reached out to the DOD for comment and their spokesperson, Major Charlie
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Dietz, said that they'd run a review on their database and found that the database covering
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the years of 2016 to 2020, quote, represented only a small fraction of the actual medical
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diagnoses for those years.
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In contrast, the 2021 total number of medical diagnoses were up to date.
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Seems like we got a lot of information from Major Dietz.
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I did.
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Got the Dietz.
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I got you.
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There were, I feel like at this point I'm doing that because that's funny.
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Like strong-arming you.
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I feel like I'm leaning into that and it's rude, but I still enjoy it.
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Yes, of course.
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They were able to determine this differentiation and the only being a small fraction of the
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actual diagnoses because they were able to compare data sets from the Defense Medical
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Epidemiology Database and the Defense Medical Surveillance System.
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It turns out that the latter has full information, but Thomas Renz, this guy, got numbers from
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the prior.
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So he had the incomplete data set.
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This effect, what it did is it created the appearance that there were sharp increases
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this year when that's actually just the result of the data set being incomplete.
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Anyway, Alex is lying about this and the thing about him, them knowing about side effects
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prior to the vaccine rolling out was just from a PowerPoint presentation he's made up
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a story about.
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Right.
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I think in that clip, though, what's valuable is that you can see an important dynamic.
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Alex says that this comes from DOD numbers and specifically says that it's not from VAERS.
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He constantly reports on bullshit that Steve Kirsch is peddling from misusing VAERS data,
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but now that Alex feels like he's got a stronger source to use, he builds up that source by
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comparing it favorably to VAERS.
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This isn't VAERS.
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Yeah.
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He traded up.
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Yeah.
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That indicates to me that Alex has at least something of a keen awareness that the stuff
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based on VAERS numbers was always bullshit, but he used it because it was the only option
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he had in order to make his narratives work and sensationalize shit.
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I feel like this is a very similar dynamic that Alex has to when he reports stories and
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says it's in the mainstream news.
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There's an unspoken second part of that sentence, which he speaks in the case of this clip here
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about VAERS, but it hits too close to home in the case of the mainstream news things
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because the full thought there is actually it's in the mainstream news, not on our dumb
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site that no one should take seriously.
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It's in the mainstream news which parentheses is more reliable in parentheses.
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Right.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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It's not in VAERS.
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It's in this actual...
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It's in the real data in parentheses.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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Let's talk about that a little bit.
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A little bit.
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A little bit.
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Yeah.
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So he mentioned vampires.
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Psychic ones.
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Well, yes.
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As opposed to ones that are nailed into their homes in Wuhan.
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Right.
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He doesn't get into the Chinese COVID vampires, but he started thinking about psychic vampires.
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I mean, it's time to fucking call this professor a Renfield.
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There we go.
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And start talking about Dracula.
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Great.
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So I call this guy the Renfield type.
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Again, it's all an archetype.
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We've got Count Dracula, and he's royalty from the Carpathian Mountains, and he moved
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to London, because they all knew that the Saxe-Coburg-Gothas were Romanian-Hungarian,
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not even German.
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And so it's all that archetype.
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So Alex is trying to suggest, I guess, that Bram Stoker wrote Dracula about the Saxe-Coburg-Gothas.
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I guess.
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So here's the problem.
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The British royalty being connected to the Saxe-Coburg-Gotha line didn't begin until
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Edward VII, who was the son of Queen Victoria and Prince Albert of the Saxe-Coburg family.
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Edward would begin his time as monarch in 1901.
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Conversely, Dracula, the Bram Stoker book, was published in 1897, and had been a project
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he had been working on for the better part of a decade, largely because his study of
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Transylvanian folklore that informed the novel.
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American culture featured a vampiric creature called the Stregoy, upon which Stoker's version
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of Dracula is based, likely with a bit of Lad the Impaler thrown in for good measure,
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as many have speculated.
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Yeah, it's fun!
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Again, this is an instance of Alex just making up a story about the little pieces of trivia
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that he thinks are connected, but they aren't really, except for in his imagination.
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He's a liar who can't stop himself from just making things up if that's easier for him
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in terms of being able to present himself like he knows everything.
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Also, Alex ends up going on a meandering interpretation of the plot of the movie Dracula instead of
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getting to the point.
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Which Dracula?
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I think the 1992 one.
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Bram Stoker's Dracula?
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Yeah, I think so.
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Starring Gary Oldman?
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Yeah, I believe so.
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I don't know, I haven't seen all of the Dracula canon, but I would assume it's that one.
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I don't think it's Nosferatu.
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No, no, I doubt it, although that one would be fun.
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Yeah, but he does that instead of getting to the point about this professor because
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he doesn't want to cover that story.
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I think it's because he doesn't have anything to say about the story except to connect it
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to ramblings about Renfield's and Dracula's and to yell about his particular picadillos.
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It's a dumb show.
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Yeah, there's only one Dracula, and that's Leslie Nielsen.
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Sure.
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He's loving it.
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He's loving it.
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I was going to say Bubba Hotep, but I think that was more Mummies, right?
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Oh, Bubba Hotep.
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Yeah, that was more Mummies.
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Yeah.
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Yeah, that's a good one, though.
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Anyway, here is where we get to clips that I would actually say are particularly disgusting.
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Fucked up.
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So skip ahead if you don't want to hear the next two clips.
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Hit the press 30 seconds button.
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It might be a little more than that, but this ain't good.
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He's not going out and getting a woman.
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He's not working hard.
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He's not changing diapers.
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He's not up with kids when they're sick at 2 a.m.
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He's not taking them fishing.
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He's not loving on them when they're scared at night.
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He's just talking about how it's good for them to have a man stick his penis in them.
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And how parents better back off and shut up.
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And the schools are teaching white kids they're evil.
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And the schools are teaching kids America sucks.
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And the schools are teaching kids they can be another gender.
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All of it is a war on humanity, period.
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I have no idea if Kirchner has kids or is married, and neither does Alex.
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This clip is disgusting, but it also is fairly illuminating in terms of one of Alex's more
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insidious rhetorical tactics.
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He gets all worked up yelling about this one story that he has a very shallow grasp on,
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and he's building up this energy.
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Then he pivots to a completely unrelated set of topics, and he carries that same energy
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over, which is meant to allow the audience to make an emotional connection between these
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unrelated narratives.
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He builds up this anger and hatred for Kirchner, and then he redirects that anger at his extreme
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nationalism, his very bigoted views about trans people, and his white identity fears.
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This is an intentional move on his part, because he wants the audience to associate that feeling
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he's trying to create in them about the Kirchner story to all of his perceived enemies.
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His strategy is one part emotional manipulation, and one part that he really can't do anything
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else.
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He's not capable of covering any story with any real depth, so there isn't really another
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option for him than ranting wildly and pretending everything he's talking about is connected.
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But of course there's another thing he's trying to use this energy for, and you can see it
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in this also very disgusting clip that comes just after the last one we heard.
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And this guy's like, grandma's gonna suck your babies off!
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I mean, folks, they're just gonna vomit their evil on us, they're never gonna stop until
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they all go to prison.
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We got a major pedophile demon problem here, okay?
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It's happened in every other culture, repeated itself again, and these people are coming
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after me because they know I know who they are, that's why we need money to fight these
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monsters and the Democratic Party and all their armies.
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That's why I'm fighting these pedophiles, period.
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That's who runs them, that's who I face, and I can't beat these vampires without your help.
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So go to infowarstore.com There's a lot of sales going on over there.
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Yep, you can see the way that this strategy works.
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Here's what I'm doing.
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I'm taking money away from people who fight pedophiles.
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There is a conversation that somebody could very easily have about the distaste and disapproval
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of the comments that Kirchner made in that interview.
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I don't disagree with Alex taking issue with them.
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I do take issue with his inability to engage with the actual story, his clear non-awareness
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of anything surrounding it except for that he's supposed to get mad about it because
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Joe Rogan told him about it the night before, and his use of it specifically only to create
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passion surrounding his other issues that he seems really, really invested in, and to
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make a compelling emotional argument for people to give him money.
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I think that this is just disgusting.
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I mean, it's fucked because if you saw somebody setting up a fucking AIDS charity and saying
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please donate so I can fight the horrific disease of AIDS, and then you found out that
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all they did was fuck all and make their own fucking radio show better.
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That would be fraud.
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You would be furious with that person.
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He is saying that he's doing something that he is not doing.
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No, and I mean we saw this even more directly a couple years back when there was that episode
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with Craig Sawman Sawyer.
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That was even more directly a fraud.
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So at this point I think maybe the more distasteful clips have passed, unless of course you consider
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listening to Marjorie Taylor Greene specifically distasteful, and then there's still a content
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warning in it.
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We've got ways to go.
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So here's just another clip of Alex's sales pitch though before we get to her.
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We can build our war chest and build our infrastructure and just have your prayer and your word of
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mouth and your financial support just to ram these suckers head on.
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You got my commitment to never back down or give up, but I can give out unless you energize
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me.
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I need your prayers and I need your funds and word of mouth now, and I will never surrender.
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I will destroy these people with God's help, but I need you.
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I need you.
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It's so fake, but it's a really interesting way to do an abusive ad pitch.
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Like Alex is basically saying that if he fails, it's only because the audience didn't support
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him enough and give him enough money.
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It's a perfect way for a narcissist to relate to the world, but nothing can be his fault.
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It's just gross.
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Yeah.
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And man, it gets even worse.
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You realize that he's saying that he's fighting pedophiles and then he's going to take that
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money and use it to avoid giving the parents of Sandy Hook victims money.
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You know?
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Like this is fucked up in so many- There's a lot of layers.
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It's evil.
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Well, now you're working Alex's side of the street.
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I'm sorry.
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Calling things evil.
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I'm not saying it's- I'm just saying it's morally bankrupt in a way that would really
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fuck me up for the rest of my life.
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If I did one thing in this chain of events, I would spend the rest of my life in confession.
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Well, Alex, I guess he has a much closer relationship to God than you do and he can get auto-forgivenesses.
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That's probably true.
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That's nice.
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I wish my phone had one of those.
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Auto-forgive?
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Yeah.
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So this segment is over and now Alex is welcoming Marjorie Taylor Greene to the show.
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And the introduction, I think, is a little bit self-serving on Alex's part.
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Oh yeah?
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Well, there's a lot of great new people the last few years that have gotten into Congress
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who are defending this republic.
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But out of all of them, the most informative and interesting and brave has got to be Marjorie
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Taylor Greene.
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We really appreciate her joining us because, you know, CNN, MSNBC, they try to say people
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shouldn't interview her.
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They try to say she shouldn't be allowed to be on the internet or be on shows.
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She should be banned and she has been.
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And oh, you shouldn't talk to Alex Jones either.
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We should all be scared of each other as nationalists and as populists.
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But we're not.
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And we're coming together.
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CNN on average has 100,000 viewers.
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Joe Rogan, on average, 11 million conservatively.
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That's more than 20 times bigger.
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This show has over three to four million viewers conservatively a day.
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They're a joke.
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The people have spoken.
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They want freedom.
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They want justice.
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I thought you were trying to introduce your guests.
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Now you're bragging about you and Joe's audiences?
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I guess.
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Then, I mean, then why are you mad?
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Why are you mad that CNN won't have you on?
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They've only got 100,000 viewers.
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Yeah, it should be small potatoes.
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Yeah.
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Shouldn't you not give a fuck at all about what CNN says instead of constantly harping
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about how it's the worst thing that ever happened to you?
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And like, I've heard this from some of our listeners before and I kind of feel similarly
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to that, like, if it weren't for Alex, I'd have no idea who Brian Stelter was.
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Like, he's elevating these people.
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Yes, absolutely.
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Yeah, it's a strange strategy.
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It kind of makes me think that the things he's saying aren't true.
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So Marjorie comes in and bad off the jump.
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So Congresswoman, thanks for joining us.
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Thanks so much for having me on, Alex, and I am a huge fan of yours, so I'm thrilled
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to be here.
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I'm a big fan of yours as well.
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I hope to meet you sometime in person.
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Where do you want to start?
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Maybe the state of the country, Biden, where things are going?
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That's a bad start that she's a big fan of Alex.
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Wow.
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Yep.
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She's in Congress.
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I've never heard her speak before.
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I've always avoided, you know, like I'd never listened to, I'd never heard Trump talk for
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like three years, you know, that kind of thing.
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Yeah.
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That's awful.
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Who voted for her?
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Stop it.
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Some people in Georgia, apparently.
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Stop it.
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So she's pretty adept at using the buzzwords and what have you.
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And then she brings up a primary season.
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Great.
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And I think that I have some thoughts on that.
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It's the Republican rhinos who walk and talk and act like us, and then they do different
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things behind closed doors with the way they vote and legislate and the people they take
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money from.
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And unfortunately, those Republicans have joined with the Democrats and it's been happening
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for a really long time, but they serve the globalist agenda.
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And as a matter of fact, today, I'm waiting to have to go vote here in just a little bit
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against the COMPETES Act.
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And that's what Nancy Pelosi is bringing to the House floor today.
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She's working on getting that done while we're working through amendments.
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They don't want the Republican amendments to change it.
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And this is a so-called bill that's supposed to go against China and help America to compete.
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But the all honesty, the truth is, it serves the climate change radical agenda.
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It serves China first and America last.
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And it's all build back better and Green New Deal just rewritten into something that she
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lies and calls America COMPETES Act.
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So it's the same song and dance, but it's Mitch McConnell and and the Lindsey Grahams
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and many Republicans here that have allowed these things to happen to our country.
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And this is why primary season is so important.
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This is why everyone needs to get involved and we have to make sure that we send the
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right people to Congress, people like me, people who are willing to fight because we
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have to save our country.
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And sadly, it's in a bad place right now.
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They've been doing everything they can to suppress you.
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They've really been scared of you without going on the laundry list of censorship and
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things that have happened.
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So that's a melange of meaningless words.
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But Green does have a good point.
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Primary season is important.
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I think she should be worried.
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So she won the GOP primary in 2020 in a runoff election against the person who came in second
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in the original vote, John Cowen.
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Interestingly, in the runoff, Marjorie Taylor Greene got almost the exact same number of
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votes that she did in the original election.
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She got the crazy vote in the election, the runoff.
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She got forty three thousand eight hundred and thirteen votes in the original election.
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She got forty three thousand eight hundred ninety two votes.
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Oh, she lost eighty nine or seventy nine voters.
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What did she do to piss them off?
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Meanwhile, John Cowen earned just over ten thousand additional votes in the runoff, which
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strongly suggests that Marjorie Taylor Greene has a very firm ceiling to her popularity,
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at least as it relates to the primary.
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As for the general election, she was probably going to win that no matter what, since Georgia's
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fourteenth district is a Republican plus twenty seven district.
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But she was also essentially running unopposed after the Democratic candidate Kevin Van Osdol
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unofficially withdrew from the race prior to the election.
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The fact that it's a district that swings heavily to the GOP might actually, you know,
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it might be helpful in the general, but it's no good for Greene in the primary.
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And she's facing four challengers in the GOP primary this year.
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A couple of them stand to possibly draw votes away by appealing to the public as a person
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who has the same kind of America first politics, but without the baggage of Greene's past associations
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with QAnon and some of the liabilities she has to be taking seriously, like going on
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fucking info wars.
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That one would be a big one.
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There's another potential problem that she has, though, and that's that registered Democrats
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can vote in the GOP primary in Georgia.
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If enough Democratic voters decided to punt on the Democratic primary and instead vote
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in the GOP primary, they could essentially sink Greene's candidacy.
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I don't have much faith that anyone would be able to pull off this sort of organization
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or anything, but if public sentiment were strongly opposed to her enough, the Democratic
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Party could essentially choose between GOP primary candidates who would inevitably end
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up winning in the general.
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Right, right, right, right.
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The district is GOP plus 27, so there's almost no chance that the Democratic candidate is
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going to win in the general, and Marjorie Taylor Greene is a complete lunatic who poses
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a threat to having a functioning government, so it might not be the worst electoral strategy
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to use the votes that do exist to make sure that she can't make it to the general.
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I mean, for fuck's sakes, based on her previous actions in Congress, she's a danger to the
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lives of other Congresspeople.
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I feel like you might be mixing her and Lauren Boebert up.
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No, no, no, I know that, but no, I mean, she's gone right up into people's faces, you know?
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And prior to being in Congress, she did say that Nancy Pelosi should be hung or executed.
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There was that.
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She has made it very clear that she would prefer the deaths of her colleagues to, I
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guess, regular legislation.
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Yeah, I think that there could be a really interesting movement that Democrats in Georgia
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could attempt.
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Yeah.
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I think that it would be highly controversial.
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I mean, it'd be hilarious.
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Sure.
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They would be real mad.
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And I think one of the inherent problems of it would have to be that everyone would have
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to probably get behind the same GOP candidate.
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Right.
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Right.
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And I think that could be difficult to coordinate.
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Or they could just have fun with it.
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No, but then she might still win.
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How many candidates are there?
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She has four competitors.
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But they might not all make it to the primary.
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With a total of what, like less than a hundred thousand votes, obviously.
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Yeah.
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I mean, primary voting is usually lower.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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So I think they could probably get just about anybody they wanted in, and then they would
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waste the Georgia legislature's time having to go back and be like, fine, we can't allow
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Democrats to vote in primaries.
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Great.
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They have to switch it from an open primary.
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Yeah.
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We have to change our laws now because you guys ruined it for everybody.
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That would be fun.
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It's the same sort of thing, like there's nothing in the rules that says a horse can't
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play football.
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Yeah.
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Exactly.
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Exactly.
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This is absolutely an air-bud situation.
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Yeah.
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So apparently, Green got kicked off Twitter recently, which she is fucking pumped about.
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Oh, of course.
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And what is it about you that scares them so much that you're a private businesswoman,
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that you've been successful, that you're loyal to the country?
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Yes, absolutely, but I don't back down.
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And I refuse to stop doing and saying the things that I'm doing.
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You know, I just got kicked off of Twitter and I wear that with like a badge of honor,
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joining you and so many others that have been kicked off that hateful, evil leftist platform
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that just spread lies and basically controls politics and messaging in the media.
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And I'm so happy I got kicked off.
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You know, anyone that gets persecuted by these type of platforms, you really are the greatest
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Americans.
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And I'm just trying to pretend that their self-imposed persecution complex is the same
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thing as virtue.
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Yeah, this is an empty psychopath.
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This is a terrifying person.
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But it's also fun how she can wear like getting kicked off Twitter as a badge of honor because
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Twitter is such a gross den of leftist garbage or whatever.
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This really raises the question of why she was ever there in the first place.
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And that's kind of obvious.
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It's because it's the biggest platform of its kind.
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She was able to post inflammatory things there to raise donations and gather attention.
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She never left because walking just up to the line of getting kicked off Twitter is
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an essential part of her business plan.
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And now that it's happened, the only real move for her in order to maintain her brand
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is to do exactly this.
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Pretend you actually hated Twitter and you're proud to have been kicked off.
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That's the ticket.
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I think the hard right learned their lesson with Laura Loomer about what happens when
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you complain about getting kicked off.
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It does not work.
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You look real weak.
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And they don't like that.
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Especially like trying to handcuff yourself to Twitter's door.
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It's just dumb.
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You need to have this defiant attitude as opposed to like, woe is me.
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Walk on the wild side and be like, oh see it's finally time they got rid of me.
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You know like that whole thing.
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Be thankful for the time that you were able to grift attention and donations.
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The real man is the friends you made along the way.
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Don't be sad because it's gone, be happy because you had that time on Twitter.
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May the road rise ever to greet you.
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Yes.
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Solancha.
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So, um, so Green has some interesting thoughts and by that I mean not interesting thoughts,
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but similar thoughts to Alex about COVID.
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It's pure evil and what's even worse is how the FDA has said that people can't, doctors
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can't prescribe ivermectin.
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And now they're saying monoclonal antibodies can't be used against COVID-19 because they're
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saying it doesn't work against Omicron and they're forcing masks on children and on people
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across the world.
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I mean this is truly mental illness.
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Wearing a mask today after two years of this Chinese virus that has infected our country,
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this manmade Chinese virus that Dr. Fauci sent our tax dollars to and contributed to,
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but people still wearing masks.
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I mean it's truly mentally ill.
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We know the masks don't work and the vaccines don't work.
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She's in Congress.
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Also the study that Alex reported on earlier disagrees with her statement that masks don't
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work.
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Well there is that.
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So there's some dissonance here on this show.
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Uh, yeah, she's in Congress, man.
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Wow.
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Just, just wow.
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Just an absolute raving nutcase.
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Imagine I, this is the thing that blows my mind.
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Sometimes whenever I stopped to back off about how this is the culture war and how everybody
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just digs in for no fucking reason on shit.
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Why is everybody standing ivermectin so hard?
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I get that Trump did it so you don't want him to look bad, but we're past it.
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It's because...
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Can't it just go away?
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No.
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It doesn't do any good.
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No, because it's an essential argument of why the vaccine is unnecessary.
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Ah, I know, but it's a, you're standing a chemical?
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God damn it.
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Well, here's the thing.
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The argument goes basically like this.
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There is no reason to have given emergency authorization to this vaccine if ivermectin
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works so well, and so you have to hold onto the idea that ivermectin worked or else your
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argument falls apart that there was actually cause to give emergency authorization to the
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vaccine.
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Right.
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And so in order to not have to let that domino fall and then their entire anti-vax argument
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starts to crumble around it, they have to hold onto this nonsense long past its expiration
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date.
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I suppose, but ugh.
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So speaking of ivermectin, Green likes it and has some dangerous ideas.
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Sure.
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But I think that people really have blood on their hands that have stopped the prescriptions
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of ivermectin, refused people who have had sick family members in the hospital of not
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being able to take ivermectin or any other kind of life-saving treatment or therapy.
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I mean, I truly think that we need to investigate all these people and investigate the deaths
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that are reported on the VAERS system and hold people accountable because it's Dr. Fauci
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and anyone at the CDC or anyone involved that stopped life-saving treatments and therapies
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and people dying while I think they're guilty of murder.
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You're absolutely right.
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We got to go to break in a few minutes, but.
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This is a really dangerous line for Green to be suggesting and for Alex to be agreeing
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with.
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And I don't mean that it's societally dangerous.
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I mean, it's dangerous for them.
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So her belief is that people who've stopped life-saving therapies should be charged with
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murder.
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But if that's carried to its logical conclusion, she better hope that no one ever proves that
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the vaccine is a life-saving treatment.
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Unfortunately, that's been overwhelmingly documented, whereas the proof of, you know,
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her bullshit about ivermectin is not.
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Whoa.
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So we've got all of Infowars and Fox News and Joe Rogan, all of them on the hook for
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murder.
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Using her logic.
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Murder one, at least.
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Using her logic, it would be very easy to construct an argument that if people who refuse
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the vaccine because they're elected leaders or demagogues like Alex told them it was dangerous
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and a plot to kill everyone, you know, that happened and then they died of COVID, then
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Alex or Green should be charged with murder.
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And it's premeditated and it's for money.
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That's man.
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These people are serial killers for bounties.
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It's not like Fauci was physically slapping ivermectin out of people's hands.
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It was just recommendations that the CDC gave.
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You could still get ivermectin and there's a little industry that popped up of doctors
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online who would prescribe it for you and Alex has had them on as guests.
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Similarly, Alex and Green aren't forcing anyone to not get the vaccine.
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They're just giving medical advice.
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And if you could demonstrate that this medical advice contributed to someone dying from COVID
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by their own standard, they should be charged with murder.
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I guess all that would take is finding someone who died and was a fan of Alex's.
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Well, there's one guy named Doug Kuzma, who's a conspiracy theory podcaster who died of
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COVID in early January after likely catching it at the Reawaken America rally in Dallas
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in mid-December, which Alex actually spoke at.
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His Facebook isn't public anymore, but I wouldn't be too surprised to see some Infowars reposts
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and Alex narratives about COVID flying around.
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Wow.
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There's undoubtedly more examples, but I don't really care to pursue this line any further.
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It's just relevant to recognize that the standard that these people like Alex and Green are
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setting about their imaginary complaints about Fauci, if applied to themselves, would lead
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to them being sent to jail for a very long time.
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They're fucking stupid.
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All right.
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I think you've made it very clear that you and I need to stop recording right now and
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go perform a citizen's arrest on Alex Jones for the crime of murder.
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Knock, knock, knock.
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Alex.
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You busted.
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I know you're in there.
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By the way, if I did do that, I would arrest him in his voice.
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Yes.
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Well, I mean, obviously.
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I would have to do the impression.
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I would have to look back at him to make him even more angry.
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You have the right to remain silent.
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Hey, that's not fair.
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You should talk to me like that.
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You have the right to a lawyer.
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So Alex is interviewing Green and there's this little bit of tension kind of, and that
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is that at any moment she might have to go give a vote because she, again, she's in Congress.
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Man, that's real, real bumber town.
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Yeah.
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So she discusses this vote that she's going to have to take and it's about this compete
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act.
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We had a great conversation during the break and she wanted to get back in to this compete
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bill that she was telling me is the whole leftist agenda, the build back better, the
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whole carbon tax agenda.
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Tell us about this bill.
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Well, this is the bill that Nancy Pelosi is pushing to the floor and I'm going to show
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you guys.
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It's going to be hard for you to see, but this is the bill.
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This is it's approximately 3000 pages and it's, it's unbelievable.
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They gave it to us on Monday as if we're supposed to all be able to read it and then vote on
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it likely, possibly today, maybe tomorrow operates and it shouldn't operate this way.
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It's filled with complete garbage.
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Everything in there totally hurts our country.
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It serves all of AOCs climate change, green new deal agenda.
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It gives $8 billion for climate change.
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It gives billions of dollars to the UN.
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It gives all of this money away that does nothing for our country.
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And get this, Alex, it only mentions the word fentanyl one time from the CCP is what's coming
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across our border, killing our young people every single day at record numbers.
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But that's Nancy Pelosi for you.
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So for one thing, it is difficult to read long bills, but like you screamed, that's
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part of the job.
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It's why you representatives have staff that can help out with that.
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And honestly, she sounds like someone who's like, you gave me too much homework.
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That's why.
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And she's complaining.
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It's impossible to read this book.
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I can't believe this.
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So in this case, it shouldn't be that big of an ask because this isn't really a new
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bill.
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A version of it passed the Senate last July by a 68-32 vote, which means that it had bipartisan
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support.
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And if this is something that is some kind of like a socialist fantasy bill, like she
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seems to be pretending, it seems really weird that Bernie Sanders voted against it.
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But I guess Marjorie probably knows better.
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Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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And I don't think that Bernie complained about not being able to read it.
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No, I'm pretty sure he was like, I can't vote for this because I've never worked in government
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before.
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A lot of the points she's making are just stupid.
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Like I reject the premise that spending money on various places and investing in things
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like the UN does nothing for our country.
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I just think that's obviously incorrect on its face.
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You don't even need to, that's not an argument.
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The Senate version of this bill also, it said fentanyl 17 times.
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Ooh, they removed 16 mentions of fentanyl?
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Maybe when the bills are reconciled, that number will get bumped up a little bit.
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Also, in the interest of like just complete fairness, the version of the bill in the House
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that came out of the rules committee used the word fentanyl 10 times.
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So this is progress according to Green.
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All right, here's what I'm saying.
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They have to put fentanyl eight times into the reconciled bill plus just nil, one point.
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Eight point five times.
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And a paragraph about how great Alex's character fentanyl, the dragon.
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That's a good paragraph.
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I like that one.
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Yeah.
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So in reality, this bill seeks to do a lot of things that in terms of lip service, Alex
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is in favor of like supporting manufacturing in the United States, particularly in the
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area of semiconductors.
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Ultimately, though, it's government spending and the leaders he seems to respect have somehow
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crafted very strong opinions on the bill without reading it.
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So it's got to be evil and must be stopped.
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This is baby politics.
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Yeah, this is nonsense.
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This is really, really sad.
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Yeah.
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This is really sad.
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Yeah.
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It's odd.
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It would be nice to live in like the early 1800s, you know, before you knew how to read.
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You couldn't pay attention.
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You didn't know what the government was doing.
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So you couldn't immediately be like, oh, well, obviously I, with my third grade education
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and more qualified to work in the government than most of the people there.
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But here you and I, we, I've almost got it.
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I've almost got a college degree and that lady should be out of Congress, my friend.
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It's troubling.
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So like I said, earlier in the episode, I felt like this is obviously trolling on a
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certain level, having Green on the show, not necessarily the entire interview, but there
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were going to be parts that were trolling.
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Right.
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This is one of them.
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Well, you know, I'd like to see you as the speaker of the house.
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They're really scared about the midterms in 279 days, but I'm concerned about election
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fraud.
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I am too.
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I'm very concerned about it.
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And actually most Republican voters are concerned about it.
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And they've been very upset that Republicans up here on the Hill haven't taken it serious,
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but we should take it serious because a stolen presidential election is the most serious
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thing that could happen in our country.
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And we've seen the outcome of Joe Biden becoming our president for the past year, and it's
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been horrific and we've been suffering ever since.
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Didn't you win the last congressional election by the record number in the country or am
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I wrong about that?
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Oh, I won, I won huge, but I have a strong Republican district, so even they can't question
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my election.
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Well, sure.
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Well, the reason I raised that is you're what people want.
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Alex is just asking that part about their record margin because it's one of his talking
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points about her and he just made it up or saw it in a meme, but he's hoping to solidify
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it with her.
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It would have been nice if she was like, yeah, I want it by, it doesn't have to be true,
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Marjorie.
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No, and I applaud her for not just going along with it because it would feel good in the
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moment.
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I don't applaud her, however, for saying that the 2020 election was stolen.
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That sucks.
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Yeah.
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Now the good news here is that there's no chance, even if the GOP takes back the House,
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that Green will be the speaker.
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She isn't even in the House GOP leadership right now and would never be able to rally
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the kind of support she would need to get into the speakership.
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With almost zero doubt, if the House flipped, Kevin McCarthy would be the speaker.
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And maybe if you wanted to get real weird, you might see Steve Scalise be able to put
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together the kind of support he'd need from his position as the minority whip.
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I was going to say, ooh, that'd be interesting.
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Yeah.
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Green would undoubtedly be able to make a lot of noise and get people to yell about
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how she should be the speaker, maybe, but in terms of that meaning anything to the congressional
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process, it's just, it's pointless.
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And that's one of the reasons why I think that Alex is just trying to gather headlines.
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He's trying to get people to, and I think that the people did, they followed through
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with it.
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Yeah.
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Alex wants Margaret Green.
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Look at the ridiculous claim that they're making on, oh, rah, rah, rah, rah, we've got
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to write an article about this.
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It's a claim that Alex knows is ridiculous and, you know, for all her inability to exist
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as an actual legislator, she knows that it's nonsense too.
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Right.
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Right.
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Right.
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Um, so, uh, we get to January 6th talk a little bit.
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Not good, not great.
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You're what people want an amazing, powerful, smart, beautiful woman promoting freedom.
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And that is what scares the Democrats.
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And that's why they want to demonize you and have tried to expel you from Congress for
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January 6th.
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They're trying to say, I'm involved.
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The Democrats are as well.
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I mean, how, how crazy is that?
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Because I know you wanted to have the 10 day Senate investigation that's in law and totally
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legal.
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That's what I wanted.
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The last thing we wanted was that fiasco, but I'm really concerned about the vast majority
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of folks who are not violent and are innocent political prisoners.
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And we really appreciate the fact that you've gone and tried to shed light on what's happened
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to them.
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I suspect that Alex is mostly bringing up January 6th that we can weave together his
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own personal victimhood and get Green to talk about them being in that struggle together,
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like that kind of comrade camaraderie.
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Yeah.
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It's kind of dumb though, partially because Green's record on the 6th is not good.
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For one thing, her actions leading up to the 6th explicitly fanned the flames of the conspiracies
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that led up to the storming of the Capitol and tweeted, fight for Trump, just before
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it.
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Perhaps more dicey was the revelation that one of her close associates, Anthony Aguero,
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was one of the people who breached the Capitol.
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She has some pretty weird conflicts of interest when it comes to her positions on the folks
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involved that day.
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And I don't think I'm too keen to look to her as any kind of impartial voice on the
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matter.
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Aw man, I would argue that she was close enough to a co-conspirator.
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Also no one's afraid of Green because she believes in freedom and is so strong and powerful.
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It's because she's completely insane and is now in a position of power which she could
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easily abuse.
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In 2017, she called QAnon, quote, a once-in-a-lifetime opportunity to take this global cabal of Satan-worshipping
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pedophiles out.
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She wrote blog posts about the Unite the Right rally being an inside job, promoted pizza
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gate conspiracies, and wrote on Facebook that Nancy Pelosi had committed treason and should
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be executed.
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She wrote about her belief that John Podesta had Seth Rich killed for releasing the WikiLeaks
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emails which proved that Pizzagate was real.
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She wrote about how Antifa was trying to bring about white genocide and how the Las Vegas
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shooting was a false flag.
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Her life and work has demonstrated a clear pattern of someone who can't assess information
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competently and who should be nowhere near the levers of power.
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She believes complete bullshit, and these beliefs motivate her to act in ways that could
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be seriously dangerous, as illustrated by how her bullshit beliefs around the 2020 election
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led her to act in a way that encouraged the storming of the Capitol.
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This is pure and simple why people are afraid of her.
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It's not because she's too into freedom, it's because she's really scary.
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Yeah.
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Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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And she writes her name in crayon on all of her votes.
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Well, that's just because the guards - You know, yeah, if they won't let her have
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a pencil, she could hurt herself, you know?
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Or others, really.
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She chose to have her congressional office in Vacaville prison.
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Well, you know, if she would stop smearing her shit all over the walls.
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So she has some theories about January 6th.
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This is dumb.
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Antifa?
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People like Ray Epps who were telling people to go into the Capitol, urging people to go
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in the Capitol, take the Capitol, and all these horrible things that Ray Epps said.
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And I didn't see Ray Epps in the D.C. jail, Alex, when I went in there, when I saw these
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pretrial January 6th defendants being held in solitary confinement roughly 22 to 23 hours
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a day.
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I didn't see Ray Epps in there.
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And so we need to do these investigations when Republicans take back the House, if we're
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able to take back the House after this election cycle.
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But we need to go in there, and we need to find out what's going on, because Ray Epps
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is the one question that no one can answer.
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And the fact that Adam Kinzinger, Liz Cheney and the rest of the disgusting January 6th
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clown committee is defending this guy just shows you and exposes all of their lies.
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They can't dare come after someone like you, Alex, or innocent people that got legal rally
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permits or people that worked for Trump's administration, staffers and so on.
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They shouldn't come after any of you if they're going to stand there and let Ray Epps off
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the hook, because we know what he did.
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He is clearly guilty of more than anyone.
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The only evidence these ding-dongs have at all that Ray Epps was somehow involved in
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plotting to storm the Capitol is that the night before he was hanging around outside
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and said that people should go into the Capitol the next day when talking to a random person
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who was video recording him.
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Before January 6th, I would guess that upwards of tens of people had seen that video, and
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if this is the standard that Green is going to use to insist that someone's guilty, then
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Alex's longtime associate Matt Bracken should be far higher on her list of people to arrest.
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He was on air on Infowars about a week prior to the 6th saying, far more emphatically than
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Epps did, that people needed to storm the Capitol.
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Even use the word storm, as we covered.
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It's points like this that really highlight how the whole thing with Ray Epps isn't a
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sincere argument being put forth by Green and her ilk.
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It's an act of trying to create a scapegoat to obscure the larger picture of how the information
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space that she's a major participant in led directly to what happened on the 6th, and
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if we ever grappled with that realistically, she'd be in serious trouble.
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In order to make sure that we never grapple with that issue realistically, it's imperative
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for Green to just push whatever the current right-wing distraction narrative is, and that's
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all that's going on here.
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Yeah, I mean, and it's just so fucking annoying because it's like, you could give them Ray
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Epps, even if the government was like, hey listen, we know he's not guilty, but just
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to shut you assholes up, fuck it, we're gonna charge him with the rest of you guys, and
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then he'll get off on a not guilty charge, they'd still be like, oh well it's somebody
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else, it's somebody else.
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Or they threw the case in order to let him off.
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Yeah, exactly.
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It doesn't matter.
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The problem is, they did it.
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And they won't own up to it.
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It is a problem.
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So I want to say this though, there were some concerns about some of the inmates being put
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in solitary confinement, but this is not a unique problem for these January 6th participants.
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It's been a long-standing complaint that prison reform activists have been raising in regards
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to the Fairfax County Jail.
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Their rights absolutely should be respected, but it's a bit telling that these prison
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dynamics weren't really a top priority for the right wing until their insurrectionist
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buddies were the ones in jail.
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Wait a second, it's happening to me?
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Well now I'm mad!
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Or people I can identify with.
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Exactly.
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Anyway, they ended up creating a wing in the DC Correctional Treatment Facility just for
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January 6th suspects, and apparently it's such a fucked up place that Thomas Sibik,
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a dude who's facing charges about the 6th, requested that he be put in solitary confinement
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rather than have to exist in that environment, which he described as toxic and cult-like.
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Didn't they already have a clan wing of the...
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Anyway, he ultimately was released to home confinement instead of getting his wish of
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going to solitary to get away from these weirdos.
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Just no more...
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I like Jews.
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I like them.
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Just leave me alone.
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Okay?
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This isn't to minimize the concerns about inhumane incarceration at all when I'm saying
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any of this.
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I'll just continue to see this as a larger systemic problem that needs to be addressed,
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as opposed to a niche concern that only applies narrowly to these January 6th arrestees like
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Alex and Marjorie are pretending.
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It's just they're not dealing with the real issue, they're only dealing with their intersection
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with the issue.
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It would have been so great and it would have been like a really good moment for them to
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reach out across the aisle if they just said to us, you know, like, yeah, you're right.
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Solitary confinement is torture.
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The left has been arguing this for a long time.
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Maybe we have some agreement.
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Nah.
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No.
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You just bothered our friends, so we're going to overthrow the country again.
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And look, they maybe, you know, maybe they should overthrow the country, according to
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Marjorie Taylor Greene and Alex and Alex, because, you know, these these MAGA weirdos,
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they're actually the party of peace.
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Sure.
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And Republicans more and more becoming the party, thanks to Trump and you and others,
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of not wanting war and being a peace party.
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And that's what people want.
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And that's why liberals should abandon their party and come to the new Republican populist
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America first party.
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That's right.
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Well, you know, I think Americans really are there.
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It's the people here in this town, people on the Hill and a bunch of egotistical, arrogant
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politicians and the consultants that work for them running these, running these polls
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that really don't ask the right questions a lot of times.
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They just haven't caught up with the people or maybe they were never with the people because
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look at what has happened over these decades.
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This is the party that produced Bush, that failed, led us to Barack Obama.
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And now here we are at 30 trillion dollars in debt.
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And it's just like it's so bad, it's so disgusting.
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You can hardly wrap your head around it.
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But this is where the American people have always been.
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We've always been populist.
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We've always been nationalist.
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So this is just profoundly stupid for a number of reasons.
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The first being that the Trump movement within the conservative world is absolutely not a
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peace movement.
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Beyond the fact that they insulate and run cover for internal domestic terror threats
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like the Proud Boys and Oath Keepers, they also have very troubling connections to even
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more dangerous groups within the larger international fascist landscape.
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Leaving that aside, Trump may never have declared war, but his administration was insanely murderous.
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For eight years in office, Obama oversaw 1,878 drone strikes compared to 2,243 in the first
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two years of Trump's presidency.
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We actually only know for sure the number of the first two years because in 2019 Trump
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wrote an executive order overturning an Obama administration rule that drone strikes outside
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of war zones needed to be reported and published.
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Trump not only ramped up the drone attacks severely, he also made it significantly harder
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to quantify exactly how much bombing his administration was actually doing.
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In addition to this, Trump ramped up bombings in areas like Afghanistan, Yemen, and Somalia,
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something that experts attribute to his, quote, loosening of the rules of engagement.
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By August 2017, Newsweek was reporting that Trump had already killed more civilians in
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his fight against ISIS than Obama had in his entire time in office.
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And then, of course, we have to remember that time that Trump dropped the mother of all
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bombs, and Alex declared that he'd shoved ISIS up his dirty asshole.
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The claim that Trump and his movement is a peace movement is an offensive lie, and Alex
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knows that.
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This is just rhetoric that has the tendency to be effective in terms of gaslighting disaffected
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liberals into thinking that there's something to be gained by aligning with the extreme
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right in the name of fighting against war or imperialism.
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It's just a scam meant to further legitimize extreme right figures like Alex and to get
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people who fall for it to whitewash his beliefs to their audience.
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I think it's effective to some folks who aren't paying attention.
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And to Greene's point, we have not always been populist or nationalist, especially not
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in the way that she defines the term.
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Her understanding of what those words mean and of her understanding of American history
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is very suspect.
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Her understanding of words is very suspect.
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I have not heard her say anything that wasn't like straight out of central, you know, like
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just a it's a mad lib script of things that conservatives say, you know, like she does
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well, the weirdo conservative.
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Well, well, yes.
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Yeah.
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But I mean, it's not like she's she said nothing.
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Yeah.
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It's just nonsense, pointless, vapid, empty.
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And just like repetition of very clearly false and outrageous totally right wing talking
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points.
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Yeah.
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Extreme right.
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Alex Jonesy talking points.
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Yep.
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So Alex trolled a little bit with like, you should be the speaker.
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Sure.
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But I think he really wants to make sure that people take the bait and he's going to hit
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it a couple more times.
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Swings for the fences.
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Right.
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And Audrey Taylor Green, MTG, who I hope becomes president one day, she'd probably better Trump
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coming up in twenty twenty four.
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Can we get you to run for president in the next few years?
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Because I think I think you're one of the few people that would probably have a better
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voting record and have a better chance of winning than even Trump or maybe a green DeSantis
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ticket.
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Well, Alex, I don't know what's going to happen.
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I'm a very strong supporter of President Trump, but in the future, we'll we'll definitely
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see what happens.
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I'll see what the people think about something like that.
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So this is obvious trolling on Alex's part.
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Yeah.
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Pretty clearly you can tell.
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But I think what's really more interesting about that clip is that like even in this
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clearly false conversation they're having, Marjorie Taylor Green needs to reinforce her
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loyalty to Trump.
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Yes.
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Yeah.
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She needs to reassert it.
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He's listening.
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What if he's listening, Dan?
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It's troubling.
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No, no, no, no, Sauron is his eye is always watching.
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That's the problem with creating a fictional figurehead for your bullshit movement is you
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don't realize that the actual figurehead does not care at all.
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You could say that Trump shoves ISIS up his dirty asshole if it were to be fine.
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I think it's less a fear of Trump himself listening and more getting backlash from listeners.
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Of course, who swear fealty to Trump.
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I don't know.
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She should keep up, though.
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Trump had that vaccine thing, and so people aren't so hot on him anymore.
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But maybe they are.
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Who knows?
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It'll change in six months.
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So when I was listening to this, it's like this is obviously like just trying to fish
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for headlines.
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And so I'm going to skip ahead now to later in the show.
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And this is...
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The question I have, do you think there's also an element of flattery in there?
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No.
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You don't think he's trying to flatter Marjorie Taylor Greene at all?
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No.
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Oh, okay.
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Alex is the victim of flattery, not the purveyor of it.
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I think that he...
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I think he wants her back on the show.
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Probably.
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But I don't think that he understands that strategy.
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No, that's fair.
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Because if he did, he would know when it's being used on him.
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Ah, that's a good point.
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I would think.
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You would think.
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I think it's mostly just kind of a attention thing.
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Yeah.
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It's always nice when a plan comes together.
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Marjorie Taylor Greene was on a few hours ago, and enemies of humanity are flipping
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out.
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Oh my God.
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They believe they dictate reality.
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But as they are now discovering, they do not.
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And your murder of our innocent children will be repaid one trillion fold.
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You will be dumped into a black hole for all of eternity with your own energy, consuming
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yourselves.
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Over?
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Forever.
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By your choice, not ours.
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Okay.
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Alex Jones and Marjorie Taylor Greene defend Fauci being compared to Nazi Dr. Joseph Mengele.
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I'm not happy that I'm in some article.
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I'm happy they took the bait.
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I'll explain it tomorrow, but it's always good to expose these people.
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Let's go ahead and go to your phone calls.
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Who's holding the longest here?
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He doesn't need to explain it tomorrow.
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It's pretty obvious.
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No.
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I mean, it's very obvious.
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Was he reading a headline that came out immediately after?
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Yeah.
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Oh my God.
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Yep.
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Really?
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That simple?
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It was that easy?
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Yeah.
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It's rare that the attempt at getting attention pays off in the same episode.
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It's very rare that we're able to see that.
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Yeah.
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It usually takes at least a cycle.
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It takes a 24.
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What do you guys do?
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What do they do?
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I don't also think that Alex was sitting at a whiteboard and came up with an explicit
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plot or anything.
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Right.
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I just think that he has an innate awareness of ways that he can trick people into covering
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him.
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Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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Honestly, I don't know what you would do otherwise.
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The idea that a sitting Congress person is on InfoWars, and it's maybe one of the nuttiest
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people in Congress, it is something that you can't really ignore.
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Yeah.
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It's relevant.
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It is.
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And so I understand why people would have headlines about it, and it's not really falling
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into Alex's trap if you play it correctly, but I don't fully understand what playing
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it correctly would be.
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I guess, like, dumbest radio host and dumbest Congressman get together to say dumb shit.
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Well, I also think that possibly a better angle on it than they talk about Fauci or
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like Alex says she should run for President or whatever, because that was a lot of stuff
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that was going around on Twitter had to do with.
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I think maybe a stronger approach to it would have very little to do with the focus being
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on Alex and it being on Marjorie Taylor Greene and that she appeared on a show that 10 minutes
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before she was on was screaming disgusting nonsense about pedophilia.
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I think that, like, forcing her into that box of like, you.
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Own it.
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Yeah.
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As opposed to Alex, because there's no consequences for him.
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Not going to get him with free publicity.
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Right.
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Whereas negative publicity right around the times of primary season could be something
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that might be motivating for Marjorie Taylor Greene, especially since she doesn't have
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her Twitter account anymore.
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Yeah.
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I mean, it sucks so hard because they could do a better job.
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They could absolutely do a better job of not falling into this kind of shitty trap, but
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the reason that they fall into that trap is because it's also good for them.
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They get more clicks from their bullshit headlines.
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It's an ecosystem that both profit off of, which is the problem.
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I think there's an element of that, and I think that oftentimes, much like I feel about
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the Reuters article, I think a lot of times stuff just isn't even worth it.
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You shouldn't even cover it necessarily.
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Yep.
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In this case, I do think it's kind of a relevant trap.
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No.
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I mean, it should be an albatross on her neck.
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It should be hanging from her neck, like a sad, sad thing.
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Yeah, but it's something that these other outlets, whether or not they're click-driven,
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can't really not say something about.
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Yeah, that's true.
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So we have one last clip here of Greene, and this is bad on her front, but it's also really
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interesting about what it says about Alex.
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Can you speak to the Great Reset and your views on this, and you agree with me that
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it's paramount to expose the real enemy, like in World War II, the enemy was Hitler.
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Well, this time, it's Klaus Schwab and the Bilderberg Group and the public arm, the DeBose
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Group.
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Oh, I absolutely think they're the enemy.
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You know what makes a fool of you and me is when we don't take people at their word.
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I don't really care about any of this conversation, except to point out that we have a person
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in the House who believes that the same complete nonsense that Alex does, to the point of viewing
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Klaus Schwab as this generation's equivalent of Hitler.
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It's entirely unacceptable that public service has eroded to this point.
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However, I think the more important point for me is that Alex is lying to Marjorie here.
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I've listened to countless hours of Alex's show, and I can tell you one thing with certainty,
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and that is that Alex doesn't believe that Hitler was the bad guy in World War II.
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Sure, Hitler did bad things, but he was being controlled by the globalists behind the scenes.
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Alex believes that Hitler was set up and that the real villains were the globalists who
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were financing all sides of the war.
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Alex believes that when it's convenient, but when it's inconvenient, he says that Hitler
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was the bad guy in World War II, and you can see how in this conversation, his consistently
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expressed belief that Hitler was set up runs very counter to his intent in trying to brand
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Klaus Schwab as the new Hitler.
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And it's a belief of such childish, contrarian bullshit that you could compare it to a libertarian
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argument about the age of consent.
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Oh boy.
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Yeah, his goal is to brand Klaus Schwab as Hitler, and his very well-established belief
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that Hitler was set up isn't going to play in there.
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No.
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Also, good luck getting a sitting representative to agree with you on a recorded radio show
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that we've all been giving Hitler a raw deal.
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Hey, what are you going to do?
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That shit might fly when Alex is running solo or trying to blow Eddie Bravo's mind, but
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anyone with a midterm and primary election coming up would know better than to dip into
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that pool.
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Alex's opinions are inconsistent, and they vary depending on his mood, but it's more
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troubling that his factual claims and understanding of history is just as malleable.
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It's a real problem that his listeners really should grapple with, but instead they just
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ignore it.
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I mean, yeah, if Marjorie Taylor Greene did become president, you half expect her to try
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and bomb a fictional place.
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You know?
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Candyland.
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Exactly.
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We're going to finally take those motherfuckers out.
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I'm sick of both chutes and ladders.
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We have good intelligence that Lord Licorice is testing the borders, and we can't have
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this incursion into whatever the area where the peanut brittle lady is.
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So I've hired the brothers from Double Dragon to take down, yeah, just fucking bullshit.
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In the third hour, so the first hour was largely that disgusting display about the professor
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from SUNY.
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And then the second hour, largely Marjorie Taylor Greene.
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And we get to the third hour, and it's wild.
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And I do want to make this comment, too.
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I've been looking over the clips as we're recording this, and I've decided that I'm
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even not going to play some of the clips that I was giving a warning about at the beginning.
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As we're going through this, I realize that they're not as germane as I thought they
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would be.
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Right.
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And playing them even might be a bit excessive.
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The point has been made.
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Right.
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But I want to stress the point that the actual episode is one of the more unacceptable things
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that I've ever listened to in my time doing Alex's coverage.
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It's incessant, and there were multiple times where I was listening to the episode, and
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I audibly reacted to him like, go fuck yourself.
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Yeah.
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Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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Essentially.
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It was very difficult to listen to.
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No, we were talking about it pre-show.
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We can portray him as the idiotic goofball monster as much as we want, but it's important
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to remind people he's a true monster.
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And to the extent that it was relevant in terms of covering this story, recognizing
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that Joe Rogan is feeding him this story, and recognizing the ways that Alex uses the
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enthusiasm and energy that he builds around these stories, not to cover the actual stories,
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but to subvert that energy towards marketing and towards his bigoted narratives.
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I think that there is a value in playing some of that.
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But as I look at this, there's some of it that's just like, there's nothing that's added
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by it.
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It would just be like, hey, look how fucked up Alex's show is.
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And if you really want that, you can go listen to it yourself.
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You can go listen to his fucking show.
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Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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It's not necessarily relevant for us.
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Yeah.
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Now, in the third hour, Alex spends a bit of time talking about how he's going to go
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to calls, and then instead rambles about how George Soros is the Antichrist.
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Oh, that's a smart move.
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I was thinking about in Revelation, and also in earlier books, because it always foreshadows,
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that when Satan's finally bound for a thousand years before he's released again to test us
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again for a very short time, that people will marble and look at him in the hologram, in
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the pit, in his cell, in that black hole, and say, that's the creature?
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So let's pull up the footage from yesterday, just a short 40-second clip, not the longer
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babbling, of George Soros, that he believes he's the Messiah, and who loves to steal old
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people's pension funds.
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I mean, he's a horrible person.
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So upset about Gigi Ping, and I mean, look, look, that's the thing that did all this to
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us?
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See, everything the Bible explains is a foreshadowing of the final event.
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There are many Antichrists.
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There are many Satans.
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There are many devils.
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There's only one final personification of it, but it's one spirit.
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And there it is.
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That's the thing that did this to us?
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That's the thing that we can't defeat?
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Yeah, so this is dumb.
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But he's got to get to calls.
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I would hope so, I guess.
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I mean, there's so many devils.
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There's so many Antichrists.
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That's why it's fine for us to continue saying that that guy is the Antichrist, because there's
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like a million of them.
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I've read the Bible, Dan, and I'll tell you right now, the book of Revelation is like,
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everybody's the fucking Antichrist, man.
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Use this person, call them the Antichrist to make some money, and then when you get
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bored of it, there will be another person.
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Yeah, yeah, the book of exploitation is what it's called.
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So Alex has got to get to calls, but first, he's got to ramble a little bit.
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Here we are, ladies and gentlemen.
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Here we are.
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On the edge of eternity.
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Okay.
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And then you realize there is no edge of eternity, you're already an eternity.
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What?
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You already are totally complete.
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You just have to reach out and take that desk in your hands.
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So I'm not complete.
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I need the desk.
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I have been to completion.
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I am not complete, but I have tasted of completion.
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Beyond fullness, beyond ecstasy, beyond timelessness, absolute total completion, contentment beyond
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the term even Zen.
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I have felt it.
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And once you have tapped into that eternity of eternities, of eternities, of eternities,
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of eternities, of eternities, you will then finally transcend what's happened on this
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planet.
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I think Alex might've gotten high.
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Oh, man.
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I think I need to get high if I'm going to listen to that shit.
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After Marjorie Taylor Greene was on, Alex...
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Rolled one up?
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Smoked it?
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It's fine.
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He's having a little self-congratulation.
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He was doing the evil maniacal laugh?
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Well, that was actually later.
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Oh, that's later.
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Yeah.
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We flashed forward to the beginning of the fourth hour for that.
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Right.
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Okay.
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So he just got high right now.
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Yes.
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Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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He's not that maniacal laughter.
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No, no, that's a little bit later.
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He's esoteric as hell right now.
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He's like, eh, after the sixth eternity, then you've really broken through.
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I do think that there is obviously a tone change that's happened here.
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Yeah.
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But also there's something visceral that feels different.
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I mean, it does feel almost post-coital.
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There's also a silence almost that's behind the...
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I don't know how to describe it, but there is an air of menace in the silence that Alex...
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It's behind him somehow while he's getting into this, here we are at the edge of eternity.
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Here we are.
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It feels like everything has stopped.
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It does have that moment of like a record scratch voiceover all of a sudden, how did
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we get here, ladies and gentlemen?
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Well...
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First, we're going to have to cut to three weeks earlier.
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We rambled about a bunch of bullshit for an hour, interviewed a crazy congressperson for
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an hour, and now I'm going to fucking tell you about eternity and how I've tasted completion.
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It's a little bit like the end of the Mr. Rogers show, except for, you know, with Alex.
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So in this neighborhood, Alex has some bad news for the Hindus out there.
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I don't have a lot of neighbors in this neighborhood, I'll tell you that right now.
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This clip is weird.
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Oh, and look, this is going to deteriorate pretty good.
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Oh, no.
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But unlike what some of the Hindus and others teach, they say, well, you know, it's a process
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and so people are dumb and they're losing their souls and they're becoming like animals,
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so they'll be destroyed, that's a process.
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I am a knower of holy books.
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So don't feel bad about it.
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Just be glad you're awake.
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That's a deception.
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And I'm not picking fights with Hindus and people like that.
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I've just read what they say and did you understand what they say is totally true to a certain
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point.
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Did you read the Bhagavad Gita?
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But you're not reincarnated from the same thing back again.
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You're already eternal.
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What?
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So the only thing that's composite is our spirit's collective creation on this planet
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as our project.
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So that we can build composites of ourselves together in communion, just as God created
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us for communion with him.
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And so, yes, the genetic line of humans is a composite of our multidimensional energy
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forces manifesting on this planet and then building an organized structure according
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to our time-space vision.
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I defy you to explain what Alex meant by any of that.
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That nonsense cannot be translated into coherent, understandable language because it's scattershot
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of words that Alex is just trying to sound profound, just weaving this shit together
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into rambling sentences.
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I had to write out the last part because I really want to parse this.
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Because you really wanted to try and get there?
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The genetic line of humans is a composite of our multidimensional energy forces manifesting
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on this planet and building an organized structure according to our time-space vision.
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We can go through it slowly.
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I don't understand.
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Start at the beginning.
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The genetic line of humans.
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Alright, now that I understand.
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DNA.
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Totally.
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Four important, you know, age, adenine, guanine, thyme, I got it.
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The genetic line of humans, check, is a composite of our multidimensional energy forces.
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Alright, now this is where we gotta stop real quick.
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So our DNA is made up of a combination of multidimensional energy forces.
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Okay, see, this is where we're gonna have to stop.
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Which dimensions?
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Many of them.
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What forces?
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Energy.
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What energy?
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Energy forces.
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Is it dark energy?
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Maybe.
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Okay.
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Now I'm listening.
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Yeah.
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So it's a composite of that.
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Uh-huh.
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Okay.
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So these energy forces are manifesting on the planet, I don't know what that means.
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Are they manifesting anywhere else?
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I mean, they'd have to be manifesting in the other dimensions too, right?
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They would have to be somewhere else also in order to be, yeah.
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And building an organized structure according to our time-space vision.
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Okay.
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So if I'm gonna understand this, here's what I'm trying to put together here.
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I defy you.
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Here's what I'm trying to put together here.
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What he is saying is that who we are is actually a break-over energy from other dimensions
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that's manifesting itself in this dimension, and that manifestation is controlled according
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to our will or our vision of ourself that is held within.
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I think that's about as generous, like I can see what you're saying, I don't think that's
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what he's saying.
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Of course not.
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I don't really know.
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All I'm hearing is him being like, okay, so the Hindus say that the Flash is faster than
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Superman, but the Christians say Superman is faster than the Flash.
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It's strange.
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That's it.
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Also, I don't know about this, I'm not trying to pick a fight with the Hindus when they
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say that their beliefs are a lie.
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What are we doing?
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What are we doing?
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I'm not trying to pick a fight with the Hindus, I'm just saying everything that they believe
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is bullshit.
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Sometimes you hear criticism of Jordan Peterson, like that he's a dumb person's version of
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what a smart person looks like.
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I think this kind of is the same dynamic, like Alex is a dumb person's version of what
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a profound and deep thinker looks like, and I suspect that's why Rogan thinks that Alex
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has something meaningful to say.
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This is just weird, esoteric babbling, but I think this next clip...
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If your sentence has 10 $5 words and it's not a PhD thesis, get the fuck out of here.
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You're wasting everybody's time.
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Sounded like a libertarian professor.
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Yeah, there we go.
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So the next clip, which is immediately after this, I have not cut out things, this is just
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sort of like rolling.
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I think this starts to make a little bit more sense, but it's still weird.
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And so that colony entity is individual and is transcendent and is a connection to our
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higher selves, but it itself is a lower creation from who we are.
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You're not going to read this stuff in books, folks.
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No, you are not.
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This stuff is what enrages the enemy because they have a good idea, but they haven't been
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there.
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They've not seen it.
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And they know that if you realize this, it's came over from them.
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So they are weaponizing the medical system to attack your double helix and try to cut
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that off because when you go into times of crisis, all those ancestral memories don't
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have your kindred spirits, the energy God created of other souls are going to be here
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with you, just like you love your children and they love you and you love your grandparents.
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They love you.
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And you have this feeling that they're there with you.
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That's not a ghost.
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That's not Casper walking through walls, folks.
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That is the reflection of their genetics and that code in you that resonates.
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They've gone on to the higher plane, but they have left their copy of their essence with
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you as your shield, as your blanket, as your refuge, just like God gave us the planet.
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That's how beautiful God is.
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I was choking up a little bit there at the end.
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Yeah.
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I mean, Hey, look, it's when you're, when you're really grappling with concepts this
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powerful, it can, it can cause awe, you know, I, if I understand Alex correctly, I've listened
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to this a couple of times in order to try and parse this.
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Your human body is in, it's an individual in as much as it exists in our dimension.
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Correct.
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However, it's a colony entity, which contains some kind of a copy of a bunch of consciousnesses
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of our ancestors who came before that help us in difficult times whenever we get stressed
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out.
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But that isn't your higher true self.
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That's something that I guess you become when you die, at which point your consciousness
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is copied into your offspring or something.
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This is fine as far as like a fun esoteric belief system for Alex to spout off about,
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but honestly I'm having really bad whiplash from this episode.
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He spent most of the time screaming absolutely disgusting shit that was inspired in his mind
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from a one minute clip of Steven Kirchner that he saw.
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And then he spent an hour interviewing Marjorie Taylor Greene.
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And now in the third hour, he's ranting about Soros being the Antichrist and how we're all
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colony beings for transdimensional ancestors who want to remind us not to walk down dark
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alleys.
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I probably say this a lot, but this show is fucking insane and people have legitimately
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no idea about the content that it actually contains.
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It's bananas.
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So this esoteric nonsense is weird.
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It made me feel weird.
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I felt not scared, but I didn't feel right.
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I feel gross because when I was a kid, and I hate doing this, I hate having to do the
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when I was a kid thing because it's not about like a different era or anything like that.
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Back in my day.
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It's just like when I was growing up and going to all of these different churches, if a Christian
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ostensibly said some shit like that, my entire family would break down of like, this is why
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that's blasphemous.
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This is why you're not following the Bible.
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You remember that book we're supposed to give a fuck about?
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All of that.
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You know, like, where in the Bible does it talk about this being a colony being?
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Where does this shit fit in?
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Yeah!
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What is happening?
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Transdimensional colony beings or something.
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I don't know.
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It's like we're just fucking...
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That's weird.
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Read from Matthew and shut the fuck up.
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Yeah.
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But I mean, ultimately, I think you can tell from this next clip that Alex's concerns in
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the physical realm might supersede those of his bizarre esoteric nonsense.
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Oh, you think?
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And so people go, I have these memories.
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I know about ancient times.
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I know these...
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I know I already know about these weapons and I already know how to do this and I already
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know how to, you know, I'm 12 years old, but I know how to go and pick up a 25-year-old
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woman if I wanted to.
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How do I...
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Why am I a man when I'm 12 years old?
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Why do I know all this stuff?
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Because God gives us free will, but God doesn't leave us alone.
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I'm going to call it cheating.
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But God gives us an owner's manual.
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God gives us the training.
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God gives us the instincts, the common sense, the will, the...
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What's the term?
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The conscience.
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Chutzpah.
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To know what's right and to know what's good.
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And if we simply go with that conscience and go with that program, because we have free
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will, but God says, listen, I'm not going to just throw you into this thing and not
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give you the secret.
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I'm going to give you everything you need and I love you and, you know, I created you
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because I care about you.
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I love this headset, but man, this clip, see, I don't need a new headset.
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It's not the earpiece I hate.
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The crew thinks I hate that.
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They're ordering like a molded piece.
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It's the clip.
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He does not get back to finish his thought because he gets distracted by the earpiece.
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Oh my God.
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Oh my God.
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I am trying to teach people about the secret of the universe has revealed to me by God
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and this earpiece is just so annoying that guess what, you're all going to hell now.
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Hey, guess what?
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I actually don't have a way to complete this thought so conveniently my earpiece really
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sucks.
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Oh no, I have to eject from this plane.
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I can't land.
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What a convenient offer.
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That's crazy.
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So Alex goes to calls finally.
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Okay.
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How many calls did we get to?
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I don't know.
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Like maybe five or so.
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Five is a big number for him.
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One of them is just a lady saying that God is with the truckers in Ottawa and then she
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hangs up.
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She just like gives us like a statement and then hangs up.
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I like that.
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I don't.
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No, no, no.
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I think that's great.
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I did not include a clip of her because we have two calls and they are wild.
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Okay.
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So here's the first one.
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Okay.
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Well, can I give you, can I give you a word of encouragement?
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Yes, sir.
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Can I?
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Can I give you a word?
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I know that Noah was asked to build an arc and you know, the Bible scholar said it was
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between 55 and 75 years that it took him to build that arc.
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And I know that in the past recent past, you've been talking about, you could just give it
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up and what's the, what's the point.
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Listen, you're building an arc, man.
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You're building the arc.
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Keep it up.
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I will brother.
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And then my problem is I wear my heart on my sleeve and I'll never going to give up.
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I just get angry and frustrated and work too much sometimes and just get nasty.
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And I apologize.
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I'm not one of these biblical scholars that this guy is talking about, but I don't remember
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the parts of the story where like Noah got in a bad mood cause he couldn't see the new
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Spiderman movie and then he launched into a childish outburst about how everyone deserved
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to die and fuck these geese, they don't deserve to come on the arc.
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Noah did eat his neighbors though.
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And then like he came back a couple of minutes later and apologized to the crew.
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Hey, I'm really sorry to all these, listen, I know I kicked the unicorns off.
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I'm really sorry about that.
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I was in a bad mood.
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I ate them.
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I thought we were all going to die.
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I ate the unicorns.
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Yeah, I think that there are, you know, characteristic differences between, between Noah and Alex.
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A tad.
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Man, I can't imagine having...
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Alex would never build a boat because he'd argue with God that like he has guns.
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Right, right.
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That's enough.
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Right.
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But can you imagine calling into like name, name, you're not going to call into the majority
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report and be like, Sam, I just, I just want you to know you should keep at it, man.
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That's not how you should interact with a broadcast.
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No.
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You shouldn't have to give, you shouldn't have to reward.
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Or call Sam Seder and be like, you're like Noah.
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Yeah, exactly.
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You would expect that somebody who got that from a caller would make fun of them back.
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Yes.
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Somehow like reject that.
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You're totally right, sir.
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I am exactly like this hero from the Bible who saved the human race due to God's intervention.
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Yeah, that's, that's exactly like me.
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It's really bizarre that Alex allows this kind of conversation.
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Loves it.
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Because it's disgusting.
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As a narcissist.
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And that he like seems to need this kind of support.
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Yeah.
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From the, like this kind of, like this bizarre, this bizarre reaffirmation.
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That's like a drink of water for him.
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Yeah.
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And be like, listen, brother, you know, I'm never actually going to quit, you know, like
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that whole thing.
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Yeah.
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It's, it's very.
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Oh, it's sad.
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It's weirdly kind of codependent.
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It's so gross.
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It is.
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I kind of don't feel comfortable watching it because it's too personal.
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Yeah.
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So let's, let's wash our, uh, our hands of that and get just like a fun call.
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All right.
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Next up is Gene in Georgia.
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You're on the air.
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Gene.
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Welcome.
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Welcome, sir.
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Man, you want to talk about operation fishbowl?
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Go ahead.
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Tell us about it.
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Yeah.
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Let me tell you about operation fishbowl.
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It's been going on since the days of, uh, you know, when they built the tower of Babel.
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When Hillary Clinton said it, we got to break that glass ceiling.
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These evil people trying to get back to heaven.
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They've already been cast to the earth.
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They're among this brother Alex, you know that.
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Oh boy.
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So operation fishbowl was a series of 11 high altitude nuclear tests that went on in the
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sixties.
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Right.
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I guess that was secretly about the globalist demons trying to pierce the dome that's above
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earth in order to get back to heaven.
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That's what I thought he was saying, and it concerns me.
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Well, that is what he's saying, but when Hillary was talking about the glass ceiling, that
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was about...
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That was women specifically getting into places of power, correct?
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Yes.
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Not breaking back into heaven.
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Right.
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The glass ceiling that is the dome over...
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Right.
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Not over our...
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So this is dumb.
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Especially because the explosions that were a part of operation fishbowl were about 10
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kilometers above the surface, which is a bit lower than the moon.
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In order for this guy, what he's saying to mean anything, he would have to not believe
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that space is real.
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And honestly, what he's doing, he's putting forth some ideas that are pretty common in
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flat earth believers.
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Yeah, it does seem a little bit very much like a, well, you know what?
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They were close.
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That's the worry I have, is him not telling me this, like, isn't this interesting, but
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him telling me this almost as if, like, listen, if we let them go any further, they're gonna
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do it.
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Right.
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They're gonna break into heaven, man.
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Is that what you want?
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I understand the story of the Tower of Babel is that.
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That is trying to get back to heaven.
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Sure.
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That was the point of that story.
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Yes.
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Or it was a piece of that story.
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Yeah.
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Hillary's comment about the glass ceiling has nothing to do with this.
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Well.
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The nuclear test...
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That you know.
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Read between the lines.
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The pieces of information he's bringing in to support this premise are very, very thin.
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Now, here's what I'm saying, though.
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It does make sense.
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It makes more sense if you believe that Hillary's a demon that she would be speaking about breaking
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into heaven.
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Fine.
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Than breaking the glass ceiling.
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I'll allow it.
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Fine.
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But, to be fair, conceptually, what this caller is saying makes more sense than what Alex
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was saying.
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Yes, absolutely.
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He's trying to visualize what he's trying to...
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I mean, his bullshit is bullshit, but at least I can understand his point.
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It's pretty conceptually clear.
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Yes.
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Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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And for that, I appreciate this Georgian fella for coming through.
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Oh, man.
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So, this brings us to the end of our episode, and fuck this episode of Alex's show.
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This was trash.
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I want to talk to this...
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See, this is a problem.
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This guy has just raised so many more questions for me.
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Are you telling me that in the intervening time period between the Tower of Babel, they
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were like, man, the next thing we gotta do is we gotta find a way to invent nukes.
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That's our only hope.
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Right.
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We're gonna go from the Tower of Babel, smash cut to 1960.
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Several thousand years away, and then, oh shit, guys, we broke in!
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We got it!
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Yeah.
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Or did they try before?
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They must've.
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Yeah.
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Bow and arrow.
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Who invented the longest ladder?
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Is that the original?
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Yeah, probably.
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Probably.
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I think that the Wright brothers probably were in an attempt.
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Sure, they were demons.
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Yeah.
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They had to go to bed.
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Probably that guy from that October Sky movie.
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Definitely.
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The Rocket.
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Definitely.
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Ooh!
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Ooh!
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What?
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Duh!
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How do you think she disappeared?
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Huh?
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Talking about Amelia Earhart?
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Uh-huh.
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Went to heaven.
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Exactly.
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Broke through.
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She broke through the glass ceiling, Dan!
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Somebody did!
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Where's D.B. Cooper?
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He broke through the...
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Yeah!
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Instead of jumping down, he just kept going up.
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Jumped up.
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Parachuted up.
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Who cares, man?
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Yeah.
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This guy thinks that there's a ceiling that he can break through to get to heaven.
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Why not have wacky physics?
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Why not?
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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There's no...
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Oh, are you gonna say that this is far-fetched?
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Is that what you're gonna tell me?
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Yeah.
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I guess.
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Well, personally, yes.
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But for the sake of fun, no.
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No!
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This show's stupid.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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I hate...
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I think that there's, you know, I think that Marjorie Taylor Greene's just general existence
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in Congress is really upsetting, and on a day-to-day basis, it's not good.
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But then when you see her existing in Infowars land, and her and Alex basically being on
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the same page about so much, it really brings into sharp focus just how problematic it is
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that she's in office.
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Yeah, I mean, the thing about that, though, is if you do study a lot of American history,
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eventually you'll get to the realization that at any given point in time, probably between
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five and ten percent of all Congresses have been insane.
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Yeah, you know what, that's...
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You know, like, they've just been nutbags from start to finish.
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That's actually a fair point, and maybe you should struggle with this a little bit more,
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that like, you know, Ron Paul was in Congress for like twenty years.
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Yeah, exactly.
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Now, I think the difference between it is that Ron Paul, though his political beliefs
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were just as bad in many ways, the things that he advocated for, I don't know if he
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felt as disconnected from reality as a lot of the things that Marjorie Taylor Greene
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espouses.
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Like, I don't think that Ron Paul would be spreading Pizzagate conspiracies.
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He came up with bad solutions to real problems as opposed to bad solutions to fake problems
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that don't exist.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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I mean, interpretations of things, perhaps, you know.
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Right, right, right.
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I don't, I, yeah.
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I don't know.
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It feels different.
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I would just, it'd just be nicer if she was one of the crazy ones who just never went.
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You know, like, American history is littered with Congressmen who are like, oh, this is
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actually dumb, and just never went, that'd be great!
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Sure.
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You get paid, you don't do any work, just stay home, Marjorie!
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I think that the best case scenario for her probably is losing the 2022 race.
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Yeah, she's gotta go to media.
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She doesn't want to stay in politics.
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Yeah, I think she could have a pretty decent niche in that space.
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But I, yeah.
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I think the problem is, she's just bad on, she's just not interesting to listen to.
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Not very.
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Nope.
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Anyways.
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So yeah, this, this, ugh.
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I washed my hands of this episode, and we'll be back on Monday for something.
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Provided we haven't broken through into heaven.
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I'm gonna be working on it.
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I think it's a good idea, now that we've got our own nukes.
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Alright, here's what I suggest we do.
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What have you got?
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Let's get a wolf.
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A wolf.
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A eagle.
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No, it's a fox, an eagle, and some parrots.
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Anyway, Jordan, we'll be back.
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But until then, we have a website.
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We do, it's knowledgefight.com.
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Yeah, we're also on Twitter.
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We are on Twitter, it's at knowledge underscore fight, and that go to Ben Jordan.
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Yeah, we'll be back.
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But until then, I'm Neo, I'm Leo, I'm Dizzy X Clark, I'm Daryl Rundis.
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And now, here comes the sex robot.
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Andy in Kansas, you're on the air, thanks for holding.
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Hello, Alex, I'm a first time caller, I'm a huge fan, I love your work.
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I love you.
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