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Dan and Jordan, I am sweating.
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I'm sick of them posing as if they're the good guys, saying, we are the bad guys.
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We are the sustainers.
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Knowledgefight.
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Dan and Jordan.
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Knowledgefight.
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Andy and channels.
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Stop it.
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Andy and channels.
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Andy and channels.
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Andy.
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It's time to pray.
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Andy and channels.
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You're on the air, thanks for holding.
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Hello Alex, I'm a system color and I'm a huge fan.
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I love your room.
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Knowledgefight.
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Knowledgefight.
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I love you.
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I love you.
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Thank you.
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I love you.
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And thank you.
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Hey everybody, welcome back to Knowledge Tried, I'm Dan.
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I'm Jordan.
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Our couple dudes like to sit around and worship at the altar of Selene and talk a little bit
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about Alex Jones.
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Oh indeed we are, Dan.
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Jordan.
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Dan.
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Jordan.
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Quick question for ya.
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What's up?
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What's your bright spot today?
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Speaking of Selene.
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Ah.
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It's a Selene oriented bright spot.
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Alright.
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So one of the things that I've enjoyed over the course of my time living with this animal
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is that she finds new places that she likes to hang out, kind of periodically.
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Uh huh, uh huh.
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Well, you know, like she was on the couch for a while, that was like where I'd always
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find her.
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Basic.
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Basic stuff.
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Sometimes on my bed.
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Of course.
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Totally basic.
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Normal.
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Lately.
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Uh huh.
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She's found a new spot that she loves.
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Oh, she's going extra.
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Every single time I go to the bathroom, she's laying in the tub.
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Ha ha ha!
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Yes!
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That's how you elevate the form of laying in a weird place, Dan.
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Yeah, she's a bath cat now.
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I like that.
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Very excited.
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It's gratifying to see sort of this commonality that we have, this bond.
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You're both bath people.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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I mean, whether, I doubt she wants as much water, if any.
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I think none.
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I think none would probably be the best, but yeah.
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But it's still fun.
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Yeah.
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It's nice to share things with a cohabitant.
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Sure.
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What about you?
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What's your bright spot?
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My bright spot today is I had the chance to break into Robert Evans' home and steal his
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manuscript for his book that is being released currently as a podcast or episodic thing,
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and I got to read the whole thing, and it's very, very good.
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Well, that's great.
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I mean, I'm sure it'll probably be the final version that everybody else hears, unless
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he takes my advice and rewrites it to be about Mako Sharkrampant.
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Right.
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Mako Sharkrampant must be represented.
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I mean, if you don't have a Mark Richards reference in there, it's like, I guess you're
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still writing, but I don't know why.
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All art must contain sharkramping.
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Exactly.
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No, it's very, very good, and there are a few things he does to not glorify the violence
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that is just so great.
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It's called After the Revolution, and it's really, really good.
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I recommend people read it.
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It's coming out, like you said, as chapters in audio format and also in print.
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And yeah, you can find that pretty easy.
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Just go to his Twitter.
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Yeah.
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It's good.
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Yeah.
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So, Jordan, today we have an episode to go over, as promised.
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Hey.
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An episode.
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Okay.
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So I wanted to check out the day after the Fauci emails got released, because to me,
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this seems like the biggest bread-making opportunity of Alex's recent career.
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Shouldn't be hard.
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There's so many emails, you could say whatever the fuck you want.
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No one's going to read them.
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No.
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No one's going to read them.
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So I checked in on June 2nd, 2021, Blackjack.
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Now all I'm doing is just screaming Blackjack whenever I realize I'm not going to catch
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up.
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You just say, bah.
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All I've got is vocalizations.
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I don't even have words.
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You can't block the shot.
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Doesn't work that way.
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Okay, fine.
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It's goal-tending.
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Fine.
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So yeah, I kind of thought the first was when the initial release came out, and I thought,
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like the second, by then he's had the evening to come up with whatever bullshit he wants
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to say.
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He's got to be aligned.
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He's got to run with it.
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We're going to see how he responds.
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Does he fail even at this?
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We will see.
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Okay.
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But first, we've got to take a little moment to say thank you to some new wonks.
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Oh, that's a great idea.
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So first, Varnvlog.
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Thank you so much.
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You are now policy wonk.
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I'm a policy wonk.
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Thanks, Varnvlog.
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Thank you.
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Next, use the daddy hole.
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Thank you so much.
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You are now policy wonk.
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I'm a policy wonk.
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Thank you.
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Next.
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This is a real name, apparently, and I feel for this person.
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Alex Jones, you are now policy wonk.
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I'm a policy wonk.
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Thank you very much, AJ is what we'll call you.
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Next, Jordan and I, thank you so much, you are now policy wonk.
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I'm a policy wonk.
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Thank you very much.
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The sequel to The King and I I'm writing in my brain.
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Next, I like this one.
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Post-Tribulation Raptor, thank you so much, you are now policy wonk.
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I'm a policy wonk.
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I like that one, too.
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That's very good.
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Thank you very much.
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And Kit and Kiva, thank you so much, you are now policy wonk.
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I'm a policy wonk.
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Thank you very much, Kit and Kiva.
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Got a couple of technocrats in the mix, too.
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First, Erica and Ian, thank you so much, you are now a technocrat and a loyal servant of
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Queen Selene, may long she reign.
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Thank you so much, you are now a technocrat.
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I'm a policy wonk.
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Crikey, mate, that's fantastic.
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Have yourself a brew.
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How's your 401k doing, bro?
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All right, we gotta go full tilt boogie on this, Watson, all right?
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Let's just get down to business.
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We ain't making that money off that heroin.
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Why are you pimps so good?
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My neck is freakishly large.
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I declare info war on you.
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Thank you so much, Erica, Ian, and the loyal servant of Queen Selene.
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Yes, thank you very much.
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I like how people are going with the loyal servant of Selene thing.
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I feel like we could spiral this out into a cult a lot faster than I would have it,
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but you know what the buttercream gang is to regular gangs?
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We would create two regular cults.
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Do you know what I'm saying?
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I mean, this is already going to Selene's head.
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She's taking over my tub.
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That's true.
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This is a mess.
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Oh, man, I wonder what her first commandment's gonna be.
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Thou shalt stay out of my tub.
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Probably.
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Thou shalt give me gravy.
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I think it's probably actually the first commandment.
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That would be a good one.
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So, Jordan, now it has come time to check in with some birthday shout outs.
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Okay.
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Being born is a condition that leads to death.
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You can say that life is a disease that ends in death.
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If you're paying attention, that is a different drop.
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This is a theme that Alex has been hitting lately.
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Okay.
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So Sam.
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Happy birthday.
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Yeah.
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On the 5th, over the weekend, I had a birthday.
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Thank you to Sam for having a birthday, and Matthew got in touch and wanted us to give
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you a shout out.
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Happy birthday, Sam.
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Happy birthday.
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And this one's really delayed.
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This was back in May, I believe.
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Steve.
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Happy birthday belatedly, but again, life is death.
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Life is death, so birthdays are non-birthdays, too, by that logic.
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Absolutely.
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Being born is a condition that leads to death.
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You can say that life is a disease that ends in death.
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Happy birthday.
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Happy birthday.
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So Jordan, I told you.
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This is the day that Alex should be responding to the Fauci emails, and here's how he starts.
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This is after he played a little bit of a goofy meme video about Scooby-Doo.
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It's like Scooby-Doo, but they take the bags off the ghost's head, and it's Fauci and Bill
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Gates.
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It's a lot of fun.
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He's promoting that.
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The wheels have completely come off the COVID-19 operation.
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The globalists are in deep trouble.
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We put out that little dark comedy piece that you just saw, if you're a TV viewer, you just
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heard if you're a radio listener, that spoof on Scooby-Doo, where Fauci and Gates get caught
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running the pandemic, launching the operation, and so they go to prison for it.
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And when we put that out a year ago, it was banned on Twitter and Facebook as fake news
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when it was obviously a parody, but based on real things they'd done.
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But boy, a year later, it's evergreen, isn't it?
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Meaning it's more important now than when we first put it out.
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Busted Scooby-Doo just solved the COVID-19 mystery.
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It's got 200 plus thousand views at Banned.video.
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I think it needs a lot more than that, doesn't it?
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Wow.
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In fact, let's make it the featured video at Banned.video.
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Oh, boy.
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This is important stuff.
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I was a little confused.
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I am very saddened by this.
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Yes, I was a little underwhelmed by this viewing where we're going.
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Not least of which because Scooby-Doo, right there.
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Right there.
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This old meme spoof is what we need to really push, we need to get this.
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Was that in one of Fauci's emails?
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Yes.
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Oh, okay.
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Well, then that makes sense.
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The only thing that can bring us down is meme spoofs.
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That makes sense.
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Yeah, that works.
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So I've often sort of wrestled with exactly what it is about Alex's show that I think
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is bad.
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And I mean, obviously the answer is there's a lot of them.
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But one of the things that is sort of central that makes it bad is actually what he articulates
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in this next clip.
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Because this radio slash TV transmission is not just your regular entertainment.
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It's not just your regular news program.
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This is a participation sport.
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And I think that censored report that you can find only at man.video needs to get shared,
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don't you?
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The Scooby-Doo.
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But this is a participation sport.
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That's kind of bad.
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That's a bad way of looking at this stuff when you, you know, I mean, granted, if you
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go to him under oath or in a deposition setting, he might say, I'm just talking about my feelings.
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I don't know about sources.
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I don't know about any of this stuff.
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You'd have to, you'd have to listen to the whole thing.
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You know, like, no, but when he's free and he's on air and he's, this is a, this is not
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news.
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This isn't entertainment.
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This is a participation sport.
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I'm trying to incite you to do something.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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But that implies that information is a win or lose situation.
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Not things are real or not.
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You can win with information that's not real.
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You know?
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It's a participation sport.
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It's not about finding what's real or what's true or what exists.
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It's about winning.
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Don't challenge your notions.
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Come up with things that you can misrepresent in the real world that reinforce your predetermined
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conclusions and play like hell out on the field to make sure everyone else is forced
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to accept those things too.
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No, and if you, if you change your mind, you're just giving up.
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You are.
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You can't give, you can't give up.
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You can't be a quitter.
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I've watched the challenge.
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TJ Lavin doesn't like quitters.
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He hates them.
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He hates quitters.
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You can't throw in the towel.
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Uh huh.
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On falsities.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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So finally, Alex does end up getting to the Fauci emails and does not cover them that
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much.
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Let me just hit the headlines now.
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In February of 2020 email that's public now, Fauci wrote face mask, not effective in keeping
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out virus.
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Either he wrote though that it has a good psychological effect and even publicly said,
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it's about respect, living in fear, keeping everybody scared, total open and shut.
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You should be able to use any of this in court.
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There's cases all over the country where they're trying to make people still wear mask in schools
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and businesses.
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Boo.
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So in the emails early on Fauci did say that there wasn't good reason for everyone to wear
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masks.
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That was because at the time they were unaware of a number of variables that existed with
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COVID-19.
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In an interview with CNN after the emails got released, Fauci was asked, quote, a lot
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has transpired since then.
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If you had to go back and do it all over again, would you tell her something different?
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Do you regret that?
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Here's his answer, which I think is great.
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Yes.
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Quote, let's get real here.
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If you look at scientific information as it accumulates, what's going on in January and
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February, what you know as a fact as data guides you, guides what you tell people and
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your policies.
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If March, April may occur, you accumulate a lot more information and you modify and
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adjust your opinion and your recommendation based on the current science and current data.
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So of course, if we knew back then that a substantial amount of transmission was asymptomatic
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people, if we knew that the data showed that masks outside of a hospital setting actually
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do work when we didn't know it, then if we realize all those things back then, of course,
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you're asking a question, would you do something different if you knew what you knew now?
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Of course people would have done that.
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That's so obvious, right?
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That's a great answer.
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But do you know what that is, Dan?
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That is losing the participation sport.
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No wonder we never win because he's learning and growing and then regretting actions from
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before.
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What he should be saying is, no, I'm so stoked all those people died because of stuff.
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I didn't know that I told them.
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That's what I wanted.
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I just think that there's something to delineate there though, that it's not, I don't think
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it's regret necessarily.
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No, I understand.
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Maybe a hope that more awareness had or more information had been known at a certain time,
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but based on the information that was available, that's what was the solidest recommendation.
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Totally.
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And then the, the thing about psychological stuff that Alex brings up, from best I can
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tell, like that was something that was going on early on.
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I don't remember this.
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This was when they were talking about like, so when there, there wasn't an awareness of
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the asymptomatic spread, right?
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There was discussion of if you're sick, you should wear a mask, but if you're not sick,
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you shouldn't, you don't really need to, but that puts a stigma on anybody wearing a mask
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because then now if you wear a mask, everyone's going to assume you're sick.
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And that could lead to people being disincentivized to wear masks when they should wear masks.
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No, I mean, leper colonies worked well.
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Everybody with leprosy was like, I'm definitely going to go right to this leper colony.
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I don't want to hide it and keep people from knowing that I'm a leper because you know,
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I'm treated so well in leper colonies.
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Yeah.
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The, the, the psychological benefit of widespread mask use is that you kind of make it easier
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for people who do, are at a higher reason to wear a mask, according to the understanding
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at that time, to follow public health advice.
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And it works out better for everyone.
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If you de-stigmatize these things and make it so everyone just, I don't know, I, I, I,
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I have not read all of the Fauci emails.
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I've read all of the ones that like get pointed out as like, ah, ha ha.
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I've read a bunch of the ones that no one's pointing out.
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And I see a nothing here.
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And I think Alex does too, because here's what he does immediately instead of going
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more into these emails.
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And by the way, let me, let me hit the Fauci news here in a minute.
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Let me, let me get back into all these COVID news next segment.
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And let me just tell you some of the other stuff coming up today.
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And then I'll go into each area of the news and tell you about the big guests we've got.
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But, but, but, but first I went over to my parents on Memorial day, my dad grilled hamburgers
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and my mom made baked beans and deviled eggs.
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It was all delicious.
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We swam in their swimming pool, myself and my children and family, my wife.
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This is a great story.
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And there's an old family friend that I've done some three years old, she's a great lady.
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And she came over to the house and I've been friends with her son and, and, and her daughter
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more years old again.
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And so when she tells me a story, it's, it's accurate, of course, but I know her sister
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very well.
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And I know her daughter very well.
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I guess I've gotten old, old enough now where, you know, my friends are 70 years old, but
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she has a granddaughter or her sister does, uh, my friend has a granddaughter.
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So this is fucking annoying.
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I can't, I can't, I stopped it.
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I can't listen.
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I can't keep track of all the variables.
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There's so many relatives.
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There's so many people who don't factor into this story at all.
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This is not the Bible.
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I don't care who begat who get to the meat.
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Well, you're, you're going to wish for more set up when he finally gets to the actual
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story.
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Okay.
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Well, but I, I'm, so I'm friends with the family going way back and we vacation together.
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We camp together.
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So they're our best friends as a family and they live in Rockwall where I grew up.
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That is her sister does, and they're evangelical Christians.
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They're very nice people, very successful in business and one of the daughters, the
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granddaughter was arguing with her mother about issues and they weren't even that big
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an issue, but the mother said, Hey, why don't you go to your school counselor and ask them
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about some of your boyfriend problems?
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You know, we're not going to go pay for you to go to some counselor in town or whatever.
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It's not that we're against the money.
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It's just, Hey, go to the school counselor.
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We pay property taxes for this.
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So this is the same high school.
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She's a freshman that I went to for the first few years of high school.
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Well, I moved to Austin when I was 16 and she goes into the school in Rockwall and it's
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a male counselor to a 13 year old girl.
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And she told me the whole conversation because her, her, her niece repeated it to her.
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She was shocked and he says to her, well, don't you think your problem is you're really
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a man?
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Oh boy.
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So this is, this is where the story is.
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I would like more preamble please.
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Yeah, exactly.
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I would definitely like more preamble.
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I would like more preamble as opposed to this clearly not true story.
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What are you talking about?
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This is made up bullshit.
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Oh man, it gets so much...
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How is it that you can think it's a great idea to give that much of a preamble to a
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story where all you want to be is just transphobic and mean?
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Right.
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You want to be a real dick and, you know, really try and demonize a certain population.
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And in order to do that, the best you got is a third hand story maybe?
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Maybe?
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A fan?
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You have something on the family tree that's a long branch away from you, that's for damn
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sure.
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Yeah.
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I would believe that there's a possibility that somebody who is in a school counseling
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position could, you know, if someone were to come to them with gender issues or something
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could be empathetic and try and help them.
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But I don't believe this.
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She goes, excuse me?
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He goes, yes, you're having problems with this boyfriend here at school because you're
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really sexually confused.
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And she goes, no.
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He goes, yeah, I think you're a boy.
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And she goes, are you joking?
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He goes, no, I want to get you in touch with the group.
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We need to put you in counseling.
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They'll pay for it off site.
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You really need this right now.
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And she goes, no, I'm a girl.
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He goes, no, you're not.
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And she pulls her shirt forward, looks down and says, no, I'm a girl.
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And says, I'm getting out of here.
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What?
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This is a fucking, this is that same meme where like the, this is a joke meme where
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the soldiers and the professor's like, liberals are good.
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And the soldiers like, I killed everybody in America's the best thing ever.
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And the liberal professor cries and he's like, you're correct all the time.
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This is a made up nonsense story conservatives tell themselves.
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This is the boogeyman story.
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This is bullshit.
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I mean, quite frankly, if this happened the way Alex is describing it, she should own
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that school.
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That guy should be sued into oblivion.
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This didn't happen because it's such an open and shut clear case of malfeasance by someone
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who works at the school.
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Like this would be very easy to get to the bottom of.
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What a lying piece of shit.
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And it gets worse.
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Oh God.
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But imagine she's not a troubled child, had a boyfriend issue.
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When you're 13, you don't want to so much talk to your mom.
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You know, who's the right wing, you know, Christian, but she's conservative too.
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So talk to the counselor and you don't even expect in Rockwall, Texas, a suburb of Dallas
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that you go there and a man is pushing on you.
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It went on and on for like 30 minutes him saying you are by the end of it.
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He's like, you are a man.
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You are a man.
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You are a me.
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You need to go to this place.
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What an odd counselor.
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It's a whole agenda to destroy everybody, men, women, everybody.
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It's sick.
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It's how you depopulate.
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This is outrageous.
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Um, and the only real question that I have is how much of this is the story that someone
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told him at a cookout and how much is just Alex is like, I'm going to punch this up a
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little.
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It was a half hour.
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He was just yelling.
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You're a man.
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This is, this is, it's either that or like he's half remembering Austin Powers or something.
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You're a man, baby.
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That could be.
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He might've taken some scissor and watch some old Mike Myers movies.
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What kind of lunatic would believe this ever?
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I imagine his audience.
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You're a man.
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It's a ridiculous story.
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And then the, then the entire school got gathered around.
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They had a big, uh, assembly.
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The principal got up and he's like, everybody champ, you're a man.
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You're a man.
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It's all the schools are just out of control now.
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They just brainwash all of these kids to scream, whatever the principal tells them to, as we
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all know, children do.
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Yeah.
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Jesus.
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I don't know.
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I don't know if things have changed literally entirely since I was in school, but I do remember
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the counselors, um, at every school that I went to, uh, being the sort of folks who just
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listen and roll their eyes.
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I don't kind of believe you, honestly.
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The counselors are not really actively engaged in a lot.
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I mean, I'm sure they mean well for the most part, you know, it's a thankless position
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to be in school counselor, but, uh, yeah, I don't, I don't remember them being all that
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much like working across purposes, trying to make conclusions for you.
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I did find it weird when I was in third grade and the school counselor put all of us under
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the sorting hat and determined whether we were man or woman.
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That was a, that was an interesting day, but I guess that's part of the counselor's job
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now.
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So this story, I mean, first of all, a hundred percent, absolutely not true, but it leads
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me to believe that Alex doesn't really want to talk about the voucher emails that much.
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I think even he might think it's a little bit weak.
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Well he read some of the email, well he didn't read them, his actual, uh, great grandfather's
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nephew.
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Uh, he knew him from back when they used to go hunting and fishing.
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He knew his son too.
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Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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Now his son, you don't even want to know about his son.
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That guy got caught, um, you know, with his, uh, diddler and the sheep on the other side
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of the things.
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But that's a different story.
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We don't need to talk about that.
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This story is about my great grandfather's nephew and how he had a son and his son was
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married to this woman.
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That was his first marriage and second marriage.
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That was a disaster, but his first marriage, they got married again.
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It's like Grover Cleveland, non non-consecutive marriages kind of thing.
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Right?
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Uh, I don't know how much longer I can keep going.
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You're really letting me, you're leaving me out to dry here.
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I was kind of hoping you would get into how the second marriage ended up falling apart
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because the woman was in an importing exporting business that was actually getting antiques
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and relics from foreign countries that were stolen and being, uh, trafficked.
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They belong in a museum.
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Right, right.
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But she was only doing that because of her second cousin who was really in debt to the
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mob.
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Right, right, right, right.
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What was this story about again?
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Fauci's emails.
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It was great.
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It was a good story.
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So, also not to do with Fauci's emails, but Alex has a new shirt that's really popular
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and Alex is going to plug this and, uh, keep, pay attention to who this shirt is popular
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with.
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Okay.
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I designed this shirt.
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I'm just telling you.
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Not, not bragging.
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Uh, and I think it's one of my better designs.
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Looks like an iron cross.
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The concept team, Robert and others over there, and it's just incredible.
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And I didn't intend for it to basically glow in the dark like a, like a tree frog can do
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in the species, but it actually glows, uh, under these lights, under regular lights.
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We've got a black shirt, a green shirt, and a cream shirt.
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And on the back it says, save the frogs info wars.com.
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And on the front of the shirt, it's got the same little symbol over your heart.
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And I'm telling you, we've had these shirts in for almost a month.
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We hadn't gone on sale until a big shipment came in cause you get a test shirt, see if
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you approve it.
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And as soon as I wore this out, everybody goes, what's that shirt?
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I liked that shirt.
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John the boom operator never talks about my shirts.
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He goes, what's that shirt?
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I love that shirt today.
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He wants one.
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My son, I was going to shoot an ad for these yesterday.
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He works up here.
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He comes in my office.
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He's done this since he's been as big as I am for years.
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He's 18 now, but by the time he was 15, he's as big as I am now.
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He's huge.
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Uh, he wears XXL and I see him walking around in my shirt and I said, Hey, you go to the
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warehouse down the road, you get one.
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You don't steal my shirt.
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So I'm telling you, this shirt is so popular that everybody's going crazy over it.
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I don't know why.
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This shirt is so popular with my employee and my son, this is not a good market sample.
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You've got some brand new market research people who work for me like this shirt.
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Yeah.
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People who work for me or I created, listen, we can't keep them in stock.
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They're stealing them from us.
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My son is stealing them, but they're stealing them.
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So like it's just, they're going like hotcakes.
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I wore them out and everybody, including the people who work for me only, and only the
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people who work for me just love these shirts.
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They're just amazing.
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It's got a frog.
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The end.
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Yeah.
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So I think that this was just also a nice way for Alex to weave into talking about some
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more of this, you know, like the, you know, they're turning the frogs gay.
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That's sort of his bread and butter when everybody loves to, it's the meme machine.
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Don't make memes out of this stuff.
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Memes, memes, memes.
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And so I think he's trying to do a little bit more of that.
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They were cloning animals and humans before I was born.
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Hitler was cloning rabbits in 1944.
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They've been splicing animals and humans.
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It went on sale this week, salmon that weighed twice as much than our salmon that are part
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insect and part asparagus for whatever reason.
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Whoa.
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So we get part asparagus salmon.
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I tried that.
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Yeah, Alex is talking about a new genetically modified salmon that's being bred by a company
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called AquaBounty.
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And it's actually now really new news, like 2015 they got approval to like create these
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genetically modified salmon and it's just like it came to market, but like almost nobody
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is buying it.
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Okay.
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So most people are like, I don't know.
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All right.
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I'm going to pitch them on a product real quick.
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The quilted puffer upper.
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All right.
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It's a puffer fish that also uses a sponge.
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Yeah.
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So I'm going to say this right off the top here.
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I'm not sure that I'm okay with what's going on here for ethical reasons, but Alex is still
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way off on the details.
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The fish don't grow to twice their normal weight.
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They grow to their normal weight twice as fast.
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This is achieved by splicing into Atlantic salmon, a gene from Pacific Chinook salmon
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that make it so the fish produce growth hormone all year instead of part of the year.
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Additionally, they added a gene from another fish, the ocean pout that essentially act
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as a stabilizing thing for the hormone.
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I've not been able to determine if the salmon is part asparagus, but I do know that if you
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look into it, you can find some interesting recipes where salmon is paired with asparagus.
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Okay.
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All right.
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Alex might have done that at this cookout of his over the weekend.
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A little butter asparagus, put some salt and pepper on there.
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Maybe braise it even.
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That's not a bad idea.
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I'm not sure I'm comfortable with this stuff entirely.
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I'm not sure.
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I'd have to think about it a little bit more, maybe have a conversation with somebody about
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it.
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Yeah.
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And apparently most food retailers in the United States agree and they aren't selling
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this salmon.
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Sure.
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This may be like one of those fun instances where I kind of agree with the conclusion
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that Alex has that like maybe, maybe this isn't cool, but I think that the way that
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he reaches his conclusion is childish, stupid, and a disservice to anyone taking these issues
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seriously.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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Ridiculous.
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And what I'm really into that is as the science fiction fan, I was when I was eight years
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old where I was like, yeah, fucking splice everything together.
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Let's see what happens.
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And now that I'm an adult, I can realize that maybe that kid shouldn't be in charge of gene
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editing research.
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Sure.
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So maybe we have to hold off on it.
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And one of the things that I am concerned about, obviously, and I don't, I don't know
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enough, I tried to look into this a little bit, but I don't know if I could even find
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a clear answer.
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How much does that growing twice as fast, like affect the life experience of these salmon?
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Sure.
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You know, cause that seems like it could be hellish.
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Yeah.
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And I think that I don't know.
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Or not.
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I don't know.
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Yeah.
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And then you unpack that, you open it up to the whole like, well, you're going to eat
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them anyway.
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See, and then you get into, yeah, no.
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It's a mess.
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It's a mess.
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Yeah.
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I don't want to wade into it with a hard take.
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So Alex talks about these salmon and then he jumps into another story about catfish
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in Japan.
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And I did not actually pull this clip.
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I regret to, one of my, one of my bungles.
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But I want to talk about it a little bit because it is also fairly interesting.
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But again, the thing that Alex is talking about is nonsense.
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Is this like the Nigerian email scam?
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He got catfished by somebody in Japan and he's creating a story about that?
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I wish it was.
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No, he's found an article in Japanese about a Japanese science research project and what
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they did is they found a way to make catfish female.
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Okay.
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Essentially using something that they derive from soybeans.
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Already mature catfish are turned into females or in the embryo, no matter what, it will
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be a female catfish?
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It is, I don't know if it's fully adults, but they are actual catfish.
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Okay, gotcha.
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This is another story about people trying to find ways to make fish bigger quicker.
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Female catfish grow at much faster rates than males and in farming situations, often males
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are just thrown out since raising them to the point where they can be used for marketable
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product would cost more than would be brought in.
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Researchers in Japan recently found that if they kept the fish in a tank that was full
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of water with different things dissolved in it, they could create a more female dense
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population.
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The use of actual female hormones is not allowed for animals being raised for human consumption.
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So the researchers explored isoflavone, which is a chemical that's found in soybeans.
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They isolated a compound called genistein, and this is derived from isoflavone, and they
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found that if you had a tank of water with 400 micrograms per liter, this resulted in
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a tank of catfish that were 100% female.
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Wow!
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That's wild!
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This is interesting, and it's obviously of concern to people who raise fish for a living,
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but I think that pretending there's a one-to-one parallel between humans and catfish is a little
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bit suspect, which is what Alex is doing.
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So also, even if the catfish and human were biologically similar to the point where it
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was relevant, this would still seem to suggest that humans would need to swim around in and
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breathe water full of isoflavone to have this kind of effect happen.
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It's nonsense.
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This is, as all too often is the case, it's just an attempt by Alex to take a headline
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misrepresented and use it as a weapon against trans people.
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He's trying to make the fact of trans people's existence into some kind of a conspiracy,
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because this is what they're doing with soy, and all that, and it's like, ugh, I don't
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know about this.
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This is bad.
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That's, ugh, I don't want to, I want a big no on that one.
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Yeah, and it's interesting research from what I was able to find, and I don't think it applies
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to humans, but Alex tries to get a little bit closer by taking another soy-related story,
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this time about monkeys.
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They also tested this on monkeys, three different species, and found that they make the same
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weird smiling face, they're aggressive and hateful loners, very unsuccessful, and tend
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to try to then kill females.
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Think I'm joking?
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Long-term soy consumption makes monkeys aggressive loners, shocking study with possible human
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implications, there they are.
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So not surprisingly, Alex has some details on this study wrong, it was done, also this
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study is from 2004.
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The headline he's reading is from a website called herculeanstrength.com.
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Okay, well I'm already out.
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Already out.
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Seems to be where he's pulling this from.
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I'm sorry, a men's rights activist's name is kicking me out.
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Their tagline is, become a demigod.
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There we go, that's all I needed to hear.
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This is a bodybuilding site that's very into testosterone, and from what I can tell they
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have a pretty anti-soy editorial position.
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Interestingly, they also posted an article about that catfish study, so maybe Alex just
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hangs out on bodybuilding sites to get his health news.
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That actually does make sense.
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Yeah.
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So this is actually an interesting comparative study, but here are some of the things Alex
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fucked up.
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One, there wasn't three species of monkeys, there were three groups, two experimental
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and one control group, but they were all male macaque monkeys.
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Two, all the stuff about the weird faces is made up.
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I think Alex is just taking that from pictures of the macaques that were on the bodybuilding
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website.
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Right.
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They just put random pictures of monkeys.
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So they had weird faces and he was like, they all make weird faces.
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They were not pictures from the stuff.
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Right, right, right, right.
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Of course.
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Alex probably just thinks that monkeys look like demons or something.
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They were fucking Getty Images, yeah.
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Three, I have no idea how Alex is gauging whether or not these monkeys were successful,
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regardless of their soil intake.
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I don't know what the standard for that is.
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I forgot about the successful being part of it.
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Or, I don't see anything in there about killing females.
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The study itself did find that there appeared to be behavioral changes in macaques based
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on the amount of soy that they were eating in their diet.
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Alex is focusing on the aggressive tendencies, but the study actually found that the opposite
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was more often the case.
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There was a 67% increase in aggressive behaviors, but a 203% increase in submissive ones.
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This is an element of the study that Alex is choosing to ignore because he's just going
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a different direction with it.
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The stuff about increased solitary behavior does match up with some of the stuff found
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in the study.
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Like, approximately there was a 30% increase in time spent alone for the group that had
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a higher soy intake diet.
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One important point to bring up here, though, is that there was almost no difference found
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between the control group and the low isoflavin diet group.
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So there were two experimental groups, one low and one high, and the control group and
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the low group were almost not, you couldn't tell the difference.
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In order for humans to mimic the levels of isoflavin consumption in the high diet group
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that they were getting for 15 months straight, it would be next to impossible for humans
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to do.
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It would be the equivalent of humans swimming around in isoflavin saturated water and breathing
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it in our little gills.
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You're not going to be able to get a diet that controlled to get any of the kind of
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marginal effects that were found.
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It's interesting, though, still, whatever they're looking at.
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I don't know how conclusive it is, and I certainly don't know if it applies to humans.
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Yeah, I mean, to a certain extent, that does also have the flavor of a study that's like
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a non-consensually changing diet of animals causes different behaviors.
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You know, like, no, I get it, but I don't, I mean, okay.
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Sure.
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Yeah.
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Yeah, I don't know.
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I found it really interesting that instead of really getting into the Fauci stuff, Alex
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instead goes on all these weird sort of animal genetics news items that some are current
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and some are old, and they're all bullshit.
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I mean, aside from the transphobia, that's more fun, I suppose, because the emails, talking
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about emails is still boring, and we're already, we're still rolling from Hillary's emails.
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You've got a high bar with Hillary's emails.
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Yeah, we're not going to beat Hillary's emails.
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I don't think you're going to find anything.
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You're not going to be able to Podesta this.
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Right.
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You're not going to be able to pizza gate it.
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You need a pizza gate if you want emails to be exciting, and there's no pizza gate here.
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Yeah.
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There's just like, I don't know, maybe we don't need masks.
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The conspiracy theorist community, I think, has burned out the pleasure centers of their
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brain that come from this because they went too hard on pizza gate.
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Yeah, totally.
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Oh, well.
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So, one of the things that we know from listening to various periods of Alex's career is that
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what's the summer for?
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Rage.
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Let's hit some of these headlines right now.
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We'll get more into this after I cover the race war they're trying to trigger this summer.
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They got a good chance of doing it.
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We got to stop it.
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That's coming up the first 30 minutes of the next hour.
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We got a summer of race war rage.
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Oh, boy.
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Oh, boy.
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Mm-hmm.
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For the 27th consecutive year this summer, coming to every city near you, a race war
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summer of rage.
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It wasn't always a race war, though.
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No, that's true.
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There was just like financial collapse or like there was something.
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Summer of rage 27, the race war time.
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Well, I think the last like five or six have probably all been race war related in his
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mind, but yeah, it used to be just kind of like it could be a number of different things
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and now it just feels sort of one note.
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It's just race war.
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Yeah.
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Anyway, Alex gets to talking about Fauci, but not about the emails.
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Instead, he talks about how he thinks there's a pretty good chance that Fauci is going to
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get hung.
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That's fast.
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I think when I was listening to this, I feel like this clip is really a good isolation
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of why people listen to this show.
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This satisfies some emotional needs that these listeners have.
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All right.
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Under the Nuremberg Code, if you're tried and convicted, you get walked up to the gallows
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pole because the time is coming when people that do this stuff will be punished, not by
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me, but by justice through the courts, and I told you it would come a year ago and you
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see it starting, don't you?
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The snowball's too big, too much energy.
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You killed too many people, Fauci Gates.
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You will pay.
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I see it in the stars.
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I see it in the cards.
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I see it in the tea leaves.
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I see it in the bones, in the rooms, my dear, your fall, your destruction.
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Violence is right.
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It is coming.
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I think people just have some sort of a gratification of hearing someone say that violence is coming
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to the people that they've been trained not to like.
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Yeah, it seems like it.
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That's very televangy, televangelisty to a realty.
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Also so false.
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Yeah.
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It was very, very fake.
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Yeah.
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At least Sinner in the Hands of an Angry God felt genuine.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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Alex knows he doesn't have to try.
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No.
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So one of the things that I think is always tough to suss out is like, who's on what side?
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We've had a lot of changes over the years.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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So I regret to inform you.
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Is Bill Maher still on the side of secret patriots?
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No, he had a one day redemption where he was a secret Tucker, and now he's back to being
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evil.
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Oh man, I hate it when shows do that.
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Listen, I don't want to talk about celebs.
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Okay.
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I want to talk about geopolitics.
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Okay.
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Yeah.
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Okay.
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Now we know that Alex thinks the literal devil is behind his enemies.
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Yes.
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So that must mean that all of the people who are on one team, they're with the devil.
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Right.
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And then the people are on the other team conceivably with God.
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Yeah.
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They try and avoid moral gray area.
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It's very complicated.
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Certainly.
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Yeah.
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And we did have the UK was looking good when Brexit was going through, but apparently Boris
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Johnson is a traitor.
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Sure.
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Yes, there was that.
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And so now they're up in the air.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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It's unclear where the UK is going to fall.
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Right.
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Right.
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So we should not forget that the queen hit the dictator button.
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I forgot about that.
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Like a year ago.
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There's so many spinning plates these days.
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So many spinning plates.
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Yeah.
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The queen is a secret Patriot.
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I forgot about that.
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I would like to, I would like to know if the Pope is still in jail.
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I need to know, did he, did he change his ways?
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You know, or has, is the cause the Pope hasn't said like new things that are more conservative
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than they were before.
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So is the fake Pope even a, like an actual clone who's just unable to break the programming
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of being the same old Pope?
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I need to know this.
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I don't know.
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We'd have to ask Steve.
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Anyway, here are the teams.
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We have a, we have a layout of who's, who's good, who's bad.
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And boy, it's not surprising because it's the Islamics with communist China, the EU,
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Hollywood, the blue cities, the blue states, the UN all against America and Russia.
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Wow.
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And that means the American people and the Russian people and the Brazilian people.
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Okay.
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So you got Brazil in there.
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Wow.
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It's Russia, the United States and Brazil, Jesus Christ versus everybody.
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And a verse, a lot of people inside the United States, I would say about half the country
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at least.
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I would say that it doesn't get more above the left, right paradigm than that.
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Yes.
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That's about the most, uh, here's, here we, here's what we got going on.
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Okay.
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We've got, uh, we've got everybody and then we've got Russia, United States and Brazil.
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Definitely not the new axis of evil.
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That would be a crazy thing for someone to say that these countries are very similar
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right now to Italy, Germany.
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Okay.
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Yeah.
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I, I find, I find it interesting.
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I mean, not, not the sort of other countries that Alex feels kinship with.
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Sure.
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That doesn't surprise me at all.
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No, of course not.
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Those are, those are like his guys, Putin and Bolsonaro dictators, but I find it interesting
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the way he, it's the rest of this is so stateless.
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It has to do with the blue cities, the blue States, Hollywood, and like so, so much of
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it is like half of this country is going to have to go down if you know, we're gonna be
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able to make this the America make it America again.
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Yeah.
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I mean, it's honestly, I, I serious question, uh, that, I mean, obviously you can't answer,
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but if MBS sent Alex like a letter that was just like, Hey, I'm a secret Christian.
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We're not going to pro persecute Christians in Saudi Arabia anymore.
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He would totally be like, I love MBS now.
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Right?
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Yes.
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He would have to.
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Yes.
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He loves what MBS does.
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He did killing Khashoggi, I think that even if MBS didn't go that far, I think that he
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just made an overture and said, you're right about the globalists totally.
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I will.
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I will not join your religion, but I will follow you against the demonic globalists
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or whatever.
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Yeah.
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Alex would be like, yeah, Saudi is pretty cool.
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I, you know what?
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I heard a lot of stuff about, uh, about them in the past and it turns out that was all
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a, that was a psy-op, you know, I didn't like Putin before, but now, you know, I've
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seen that Putin is a good Christian.
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I might've spent a long time back in 2003 talking about every day about how evil Putin
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was and never taken back any of those comments or suggested that what I said was not true.
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Psy-op.
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Just don't care.
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So, uh, Alex spends an entire segment talking about China and it's exhausting because it's
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all kind of the stuff that we've gone over in the past.
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Yeah.
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And his grievances about Chiang Kai-Shek.
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Right, right.
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Yes, of course.
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And what have you.
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Of course.
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Uh, and this is how it ends.
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Apparently China has double-crossed the globalists.
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Okay.
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Okay.
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And China double-crossed the globalists on multiple fronts.
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They're not doing the one-child policy.
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They're, they're, they're, they're expanding their military, not just dominating economic
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systems and Biden can't serve them enough when he announces, Hey, we won't build any
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of our own batteries.
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We'll only buy it from China.
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We won't let Americans mine and I'll shut it.
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And now Biden announced a plan to shut down 30 plus other big pipelines, giving the States
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the power to shut down existing pipelines and to give Whitmer the power to violate a
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U S treaty and shut off the main pipeline to the Midwest out of Canada.
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I mean, we are under child calm attack.
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So of course he's running to Tulsa a hundred years ago.
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People killed each other.
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Hundreds dead.
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Let's have a race war.
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How obvious is this?
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I'm going to go to break.
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We're going to come back.
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Don't forget.
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We're extending the store, free shipping and double Patriot points until Sunday, DNA force
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plus.
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Yeah.
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So apparently Alex is pretty mad about Biden going to Tulsa to celebrate or pay respects
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to the anniversary of the Tulsa massacre.
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Yeah.
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Weird.
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Yeah.
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I'm surprised that Alex would not want to to have that talked about or even mentioned
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or recognized or even have it exist within the records.
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Now you know, what's weird.
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Last year, Trump scheduled a campaign rally in Tulsa on June 19th, which understandably
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seemed a little not great because June 19th is Juneteenth, which is the celebration of
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the ending of slavery in Texas, which is the last state where it was still taking place.
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Now Tulsa is the site of the Tulsa massacre, which occurred on May 31st and June 1st in
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1921 when mobs of white people destroyed the Greenwood district in Tulsa, the largest concentration
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of black wealth in the United States.
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So obviously the combination of Trump going to Tulsa on June 19th seemed like a little
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bit of a eh.
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And not just mobs of white people, organized mobs of white people with the fucking military
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on their side.
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So yeah.
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So Trump ended up rescheduling that event after some very understandable backlash, but
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he did say in a subsequent interview, quote, I did something good.
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I made Juneteenth very famous.
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It's actually an important event, an important time, but nobody had ever heard of it.
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Wow.
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Ah, man.
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Alex didn't have any problem with any of that, but for Biden to visit the Greenwood district
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and pay homage to the Tulsa massacre, that's a huge problem apparently because I guess,
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I don't know.
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I mean, I think one of the main reasons that it is such a huge problem for conservatives
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and why they absolutely do not want to discuss it whatsoever is because it is the marriage
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of two things that they love the most at cross purposes, which is white people and wealth.
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And they can't say that it's okay for the wealth to be wiped out without saying that
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it's their giant fucking racists.
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And they can't say that it's not okay for white people to murder en masse because they're
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giant fucking racists.
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So they're just trapped in this space of like, you can't earn your way out of racism in America.
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That's what they're saying.
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And that's their message is always, you're like, no, you can pull yourself up by your
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bootstraps.
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No, the real message is if you do that, you will be murdered and slapped down again because
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that's what they need.
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And one of the other things too, not to, not to totally jump off subject, but when, when
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he was talking about these pipelines and stuff, shouldn't his politics be that States can
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opt out of pipelines?
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Why is he mad that Biden is saying that States can not participate in pipelines?
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I don't know.
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There's just no, there's just nothing.
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There's just nothing.
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I don't understand how that wouldn't be like exactly what he would, like, if Trump did
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that, he'd be like, fuck yeah, everybody needs to have the power in the States.
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So there's a big news breaking in the middle of the show.
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And that is that someone in China made a comment, watch out.
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So when you see the communist Chinese come out in their official publication and say,
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if you investigate the lab, we're going to nuke you.
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That's what they said today.
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And China paid American media outlets millions to publish propaganda.
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We're going to list those groups for you when we come back, who the traders are.
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I definitely don't like the idea of someone airing a list of traders on their show, especially
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Alex, someone who has a participation sports philosophy towards his show historically listing
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traders is usually a good idea.
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It's not.
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So this story about China paying for articles and some Western outlets, that's not news.
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That's an old story about an English language paper in China controlled by the government
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called China daily.
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They paid to have articles placed in outlets, but all of those would have had to have an
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alert informing readers that this is paid content.
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I don't like it, but it's definitely not the smoking gun and like huge deal that Alex is
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making it out to be sure.
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As for the nuclear war thing, Alex is lying.
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It's true that there's a Newsweek headline that says, quote, China state media says country
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must prepare for nuclear war with us after Biden asks for COVID probe.
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But that's not a statement that's meant to convey a causal relationship between the two
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things, which is what Alex is reporting.
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Okay.
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He's saying that the Chinese government has said that they'll nuke us if we investigate
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the lab, but that's not what this article is saying at all.
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And this article is his primary source.
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Right, right, right.
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The article is about comments made by Hu Zhijin, the editor of the global times.
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The comments had to do with how there was growing tensions in the US-China relations
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and that, quote, China sees much of America's actions and comments to be an encroachment
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on its sovereignty.
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Hu wrote an op-ed that essentially boiled down to this, quote, the number of China's
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nuclear warheads must reach the quantity that makes US elites shiver should they entertain
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the idea of engaging in a military confrontation with China.
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The comments were an escalation and an arms race kind of thing that I think sucks, but
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they also weren't comments that were being made as a threat if we investigate the lab
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theory.
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Jesus.
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Yeah, that's nonsense.
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But it's right in line with Alex's narratives that he's been building, so that's going to
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take precedence over the reality of the situation that, honestly, we should not be thrilled
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about.
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I mean, wild, wild to have the headline be, Chinese man says Reagan had a point.
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You know, like, I don't understand, yeah, of course.
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Historically, you should have more nuclear weapons to keep the United States from invading
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you.
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I don't want people to have any, I don't want nuclear weapons at all.
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No.
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Absolutely not.
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Absolutely not.
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Yeah, it does make sense for a power in the context of, like, heightening tensions to
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be like, we should make it so no one will attack us because it looks like someone might
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attack us.
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America's on their fucking bullshit again.
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Yeah, everybody's pumping out Iraq war propaganda about the, oh, Jesus.
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I understand that.
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I would prefer we take another direction with it and de-escalate things on a larger scale,
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but I get that thinking, and that's the thinking that is behind that comment.
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Not that if you look into the lab, we'll nuke you.
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Yeah, no, no, no, no.
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It's so ridiculous.
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Yeah, no, it's global realpolitik that, again, Kissinger was like, we gotta have this.
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And this, too, is why listening to Alex is kind of a dead end, because there is a reality
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that you should be aware of in this Newsweek story that is, yeah, these kinds of conversations
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are happening.
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Some people are making comments, be it in official outlets or in op-eds that are like,
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we should bulk up our defenses to make sure that no one attacks us.
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That's fucked up.
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It doesn't necessarily reflect a government policy, but it is something that is worthwhile.
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If you listen to Alex, the way that this story is going to be presented to you is, the Chinese
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are so afraid of us investigating the Wuhan lab that they will nuke us if we do it.
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And that is a dead end, because what do you do with that information?
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It's not true.
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It's ridiculous.
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No, it's just you saying, see, they're so overreacting to it, it's obviously true.
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He's not asking a question, he's not saying anything.
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What he's really doing is, hey, they wouldn't act like this if they weren't the cause of
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the Wuhan lab leak.
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The end.
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You know?
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Basically.
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It's proof.
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Yep.
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So on this episode, Alex is really obsessed with an interview that Judge Joe Brown did,
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and I don't care.
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No, no, no, you cannot.
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The only point of it is that Judge Joe Brown thinks that Biden's a racist, and, all right,
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Joe Brown.
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Yeah.
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I used to watch Joe Brown a lot.
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Did you?
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Judge Joe Brown?
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Yeah.
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And me and my friends would sit around, get high, watch judge shows, and I love Joe Brown
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because he always looked like he just got up from a nap, because he was so annoyed by
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everybody in the courtroom.
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He was very annoyed by everyone.
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It's like, you mean to tell me?
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I liked his demeanor quite a bit.
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Okay, so, but here's my, okay, so Judge Joe Brown says that Biden's a racist.
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Right.
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If Judge Judy comes out and says Biden's not a racist, what show do they go on?
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We got to go to Judge Mills Lane, obviously.
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My bad, my bad.
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That was too obvious.
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And settle this in a celebrity death match.
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Yeah, I mean, look, no disrespect to Judge Joe Brown.
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He is a judge and all, but I think when it comes to-
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Is he a real judge or is he-
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I don't think you can be on those shows and not be a real judge.
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I think you have to be a judge.
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I don't know if that's true.
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That might not be true.
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I feel like that is definitely not true.
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Judge Judy is a judge.
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She is a judge.
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Right.
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Ooh.
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Judge Mathis is a judge.
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Judge Mathis is a judge.
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Maybe Judge Joe Brown is a real judge.
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I think he is.
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How do you get to be a judge and then get on TV?
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We should explore this more, but we don't-
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That sounds really fucked up to me now that I think about it.
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So they've been practicing judges on the bench for a long time and then they get a TV show?
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That seems wrong.
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It seems strange, but it also is a good career path.
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Well, you're not wrong.
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Okay.
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Judge Joe Brown.
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Is he-
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Judge Joe Brown.
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Real judge?
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Question mark.
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Judge Joe Brown is a former American lawyer and television personality.
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Aha.
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Oh, he is a former Shelby County, Tennessee criminal court judge and a former arbiter
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of the arbitration based reality show Judge Joe Brown.
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Okay.
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So yeah, he was formerly a judge in Tennessee.
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All right.
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Okay.
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Yeah.
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I would imagine that if you're ever on one of those shows, you're not an active judge.
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I think that's where I got confused.
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You're not moonlighting.
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I think there's a part of me that like when I filled out my Chicago ballot and I was voting
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for judges, then that connected to my mind, well, obviously I was voting for Judge Mathis
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or Joe Brown at some point.
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No, I think it's a good sort of late career move if you're someone who has some charisma
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and can make court hearings fun.
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Absolutely.
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Yeah, we will need a judge to settle this next issue.
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Okay.
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Alex is escalating this whole thing about Fauci getting hung.
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Okay.
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And now it's going to happen in public.
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That's not good.
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Fauci and Bill Gates are being destroyed as we speak.
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I told you months ago, they will be politically annihilated bare minimum.
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And I, I just go with my gut and the analysis, I think they're going to go to prison.
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I think if we work hard, we expose them and we're diligent, we pray, I believe they'll
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be convicted and that someday I believe we'll watch them both hung in public.
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I really do.
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They launched this attack with communist China.
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You know, you think that's strong rhetoric and it's not.
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Communist China just threatened to nuke us if we keep investigating the Wuhan lab.
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They did this on purpose with the UN.
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See?
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Wow.
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See how that information ends up being used?
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Yeah.
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Yeah, it's silly.
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Does everybody know that, that like now in the, in the modern world when, when they see
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like public hangings in a TV show or in a movie or in real life, those are the bad guys.
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The good guys are never doing public hangings.
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Hmm.
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Yeah.
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It seems rare.
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Yeah.
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That's fucked up.
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Yeah.
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I mean, look, I, I, I, I, I struggle with this because on the one hand, if anything
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that Alex was saying were true, these people are enemies of humanity.
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That is true.
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No, you're not wrong.
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You're not wrong.
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That's true.
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I mean, if they are wiping out millions of people, that is true.
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I do think that you should probably, you know, that's a hangable offense.
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I think so.
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Sure.
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I think that there's a narrow area where death penalties might be, maybe we go ahead and...
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Genociders can get the death penalty.
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I'm fine with that.
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I feel like that's inarguable as a, as a relatively fair solution.
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Sure.
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I don't know about the public spectacle part.
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I, oh, I, I certainly don't think that would be healthy.
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Yeah.
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But I also, but if you, but if you didn't do that, everyone would come up with conspiracies
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about how it didn't really happen.
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They're going to come up with, JFK is going to, JFK is still alive, according to some
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people.
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His head blew up on TV.
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Look, we're not going to be able to negotiate this and thankfully we don't have to.
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That's a good point.
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We don't have to because Alex has indicated that he's okay with a lesser punishment.
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Okay, good.
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You have to say it.
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I don't want any harm against Bill Gates or Fauci.
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That could turn them into heroes.
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That could turn them into martyrs.
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No vigilante violence.
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I want them arrested.
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I want their records brought out.
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I want public trial and that I want a jury to find them guilty because the evidence is
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overwhelming.
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And I will take life in prison.
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They are incredible villains.
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And so I don't think execution would turn them into victims, but maybe let them spend
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the rest of their miserable lives on public display.
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Like you put animals in a cage, you want us to live in a cage.
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How about we throw Joe Biden in there with them?
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All right, man.
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Okay.
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Yeah.
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All right.
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What a gracious guy though.
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He's offering life in prison.
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It is nice to, to say, look, look, look, this requires a public hanging.
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God's justice demands a public hanging, but we will keep you in a dog cage for the rest
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of your life and have people walk by and spit on you.
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Yes.
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Yeah.
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That is what happens when you release plagues.
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We put you in a box.
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Yeah, that's about right.
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So Alex has the Hodge twins on who are a couple of twins as their name suggests.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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They are conservatives.
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Is Judge John Hodge been a judge?
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Nevermind.
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That was a joke.
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It used to be.
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So Hodge twins, they have some bad opinions and here's one of them.
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Black people are so upset about Christopher Columbus.
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You don't want to celebrate that, but why y'all want to celebrate something that happened
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over a hundred years ago.
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They're talking about the, uh, the Tulsa massacre.
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Yeah.
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The only reason why they want to celebrate these things is because they're asking for
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something and they think Joe Biden and the Democrats and people on the left is actually
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going to give them reparations or restitution.
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They're not going to see any, any of that.
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They have not till this day, black folks, black liberals have woken up and realize what
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these people are doing to them.
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They're using them mentally enslaving them or vote.
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That's the only reason why Joe Biden's there.
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Yeah.
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They're actually asking for reparations for what happened in Tulsa.
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There's only like two survivors left from that.
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Yeah.
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And I say fine.
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Give them, I mean, sure.
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The state or somebody should try to help them out.
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But the point is, is he's there to open old wounds and distract from what he's doing to
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all Americans shutting down the pipelines.
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Now Trump, Trump wasn't opening up old wounds last year.
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No, no, no, no.
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He wasn't doing that.
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I don't know.
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That'd be weird this time.
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Joe Biden always opens up old wounds.
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I think that it's horseshit that Alex is saying like, yeah, of course.
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Give them repar...
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Why?
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Why?
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Why Alex?
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Why?
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Yeah.
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You don't believe that for a second.
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No.
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You're saying that because you know that like saying don't, it would sound like shit.
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Yeah.
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Absolutely.
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Now.
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A baseball should go whizzing right by his head just as a like warning shot.
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Do it again, man.
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Do it again.
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Yeah.
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Claim that you're fine with giving some people reparations again.
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Feel that break through the air.
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Now one of the reasons that the Tulsa massacre in particular is something that is brought
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up in the conversation about reparations is because it was not just an attack on people.
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It was an attack on black wealth.
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Exactly.
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And you know, one of the reasons that some of these issues have rippled through our country's
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history so resonantly is because of the exclusion of nonwhite people from participation in the
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market.
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Yeah.
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Exactly.
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Yeah.
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And this is a, that was a giant attack on exactly that.
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Yeah.
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And I think pretending that you don't understand that is a little bit silly and I think if
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you're a commentator then you're going to come around and say that people only remember
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that event because they want something.
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Yeah.
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They want to guilt Biden into giving them something.
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I think you're a piece of shit.
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I think that's a shitty opinion.
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And that, that like idea of Alex even being like, well, you know, there's two survivors,
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so yeah, the government should help them out or something like that.
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That's absolutely missing the point of wiping out generational wealth.
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You did, there are not two survivors of that massacre.
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There are countless survivors of that massacre.
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Yeah.
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And that's, that's the point.
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That is a point.
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Yeah.
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Well not, yeah, not the point.
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Apologies.
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Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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That's the point that he's avoiding.
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Yes.
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That's what he's basically and kind of like detracting from is what I was trying to say.
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While at the same time confusingly saying that it's okay to give something to those
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two people.
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Right.
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Which again, I would just ask if I were, anyway, if I were in a position that these hodge twins
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are in, I would just be like, why?
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Yeah.
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Please say why.
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Tell me why these two are fine.
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That's okay and it's not okay in other circumstances.
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Absolutely.
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So, so these people, these people had something taken from them.
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Right, right.
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And so they deserve recompense in some form.
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Correct.
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Okay.
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Let's take this a step further.
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I don't understand.
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There are more steps?
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Let's not.
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Hmm.
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So there's been a lot of talk about how there's a coming indictment for Trump.
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Sure.
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Trump's going down.
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Sure.
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Roger Stone's been playing into this quite a bit.
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Alex has been warning people that he's going down on the 4th of July.
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No, I thought he was going to be reinstated.
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No, no, no.
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That's the, maybe who knows.
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Maybe they'll indict him and magically like a, like a Phoenix rising from the ashes who
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will become president.
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That could be.
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Maybe.
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Maybe the Democrats just want a third go at impeachment, you know, like they fucked up
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the first two real bad.
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Third tries a charm.
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Third tries a charm.
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However, the Hodge twins, they do not think that this is real and they think it's a distraction.
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I don't, I don't think they're going to get an indictment on him.
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I mean, he's the most vetted president we've ever had.
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Everybody's investigated this man.
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They have found nothing.
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I'd be shocked if they found anything.
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Yeah.
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I think more than anything, Alex, it's just a distraction because they're doing the audits
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in Arizona, in Nevada.
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That's what they're really doing.
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It's just a distraction.
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What Biden's doing in Tulsa.
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I mean, everybody on mainstream media on the left is just lost their minds talking about
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when they started actually auditing the results.
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I'm like, I don't understand why they will be so upset unless they trying to hide something.
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If you're so sure if Biden won that election, honestly, why don't you let everybody go in
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audit the results and just show and tell everybody that's on the right, how stupid and naive
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they are.
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I mean, you have a goal and opportunity to show everybody in America how lost Trump supporters
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are.
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Yeah.
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I don't be willing to show that, Alex.
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Look at the results.
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He won here.
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He won here.
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He won here, but they don't want to do that.
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They don't even want to investigate the results or audit because they're scared what's going
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to be uncovered.
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I mean, that's just a dumb argument and you can, you can take the exact idea and just
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place it wherever you want with the story that you've written for yourself.
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You know, a good example of this, whether or not there's any truth to it is, Oh, why,
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why won't Trump release all of his financial information if he's, Oh, he has to be afraid
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of what's in there.
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And that's a story that you can write for yourself.
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It may be more likely than this whole election was a fraud or whatever, but it's, you know,
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pretending that, you know, what would be found if someone looked at something and that's
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why they're not looking at it.
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Sure.
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Sure.
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Sure.
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Is just a dishonest, uh, kind of game.
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Yeah.
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I mean, the thing about that though, is it's eminently reasonable from what we do know
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is that if you really went through just about any billionaires, no, any billionaires finances
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sooner or later, you would find some crime.
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I understand that.
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Not like, not like maybe not a big crime, maybe not nothing, but you'd be like, there's
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no way that you can get to be a billionaire without something along the way being fucked
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up.
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Yeah, I understand that and I think that you could make an argument for what you might
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expect to find, but I don't think that you could argue definitively in the way that they're
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arguing definitively.
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Sure.
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This is what you would find.
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You would find that Trump won the election.
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And what we know from history about elections though is, especially this one, it is really
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hard to cheat the entire country.
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Yeah.
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Really tough.
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Maybe impossible.
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Yeah.
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Also this same pattern of why won't you let everyone investigate this?
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You must be afraid of what's underneath.
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Sure.
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If you were just to apply that to Trump, they'd be like, no, no, no, he can't have it because
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XYZ.
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Exactly.
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There'd be a hundred reasons why this is not the same thing.
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Yeah.
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Who cares?
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And your, your bullshit argument of like, they have a real opportunity to make conservatives
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look stupid here.
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And you're like, no, get the fuck out of here.
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That's trolling.
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Yeah.
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Shut the fuck up.
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You dick.
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Speaking of trolling.
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I agree.
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And I don't go off color.
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I go off people, but wouldn't Allen West make a great governor of Texas?
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Oh, hell yeah.
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Yeesh.
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Oh my God.
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Just after this episode was broadcast, Allen West resigned as the chair of the Texas GOP.
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It was probably at least partially due to fallout from him attending and speaking at
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that QAnon conference last week, where Mike Flynn said that there's no reason that what
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happened in Myanmar shouldn't happen here.
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He didn't serve for chair as long, uh, for a long time.
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Uh, and in his time in that position, he changed the GOP of Texas's slogan to we are the storm,
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which is about as overt a reference to QAnon as you can imagine.
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Wow.
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Allen West is a terrible, terrible choice for a leader, but given Alex's embrace of
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Marjorie Taylor Greene lately, it seems like he's kind of seeing the political utility
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of seeing these folks as like a new tea party.
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I think that you might, uh, you might expect to see more of that.
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50, 50 shot Cornel West could become governor of Texas by accident.
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Like that is honestly, they don't know.
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They don't know.
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So Alex wants, uh, Trump to get back on social media and that's something that they spend
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a good bit of time talking about.
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Everything was better for us when people were constantly talking about Trump.
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And that's the same argument that they make about the media, uh, saying like Trump is
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going to get indicted.
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They're like, Trump is driving ratings.
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He's good for ratings.
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So they talk about Trump.
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It's like, you know, you're doing the same thing, right?
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You know?
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Yeah.
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So anyway, they want him to get back on social media and the Hodge twins have a interesting
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theory as to why that hasn't happened yet.
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He doesn't even have social media.
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He has 2 million followers on gab.
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If he joined gab tomorrow and get 10 million, the site works good.
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They've gotten the bugs out.
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We need to get a message to Trump.
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I don't have any stock in gab.
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I have a site on gab, hundreds of thousands of followers, but, but, but he's deplatformed.
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He needs to get on these other platforms.
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Now he needs to be on rumble.
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He needs to be on gab.
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He needs to be out there instead of, I know for a fact there are people around him that
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are quietly sabotaging him.
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Right.
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Yeah.
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And big techs behind it.
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That's why they banned him from every social media platform that's out there because they
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don't want him to be able to communicate with other consumers and other like-minded Americans.
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Yeah.
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Maybe he's, uh, I thought he had some kind of social media platform in the works.
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Maybe that's what he's waiting to let everybody see and not somebody else's platform because
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you know, Trump, he wants his own thing.
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So Trump had claimed he was going to roll out his own social media site, which ultimately
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turned out to be a blog on his website that was so roundly mocked that it was taken down
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permanently less than a month after launching.
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It was so poorly done that Trump's staff have had to claim that there's a different social
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media thing he's working on.
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And this actually wasn't an embarrassment after all.
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And it's a mess.
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Wow.
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Yep.
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It was the blog version of the four seasons, my friend.
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That's what it was.
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So, I mean, this is it for the episode and like, honestly, he just interviews the hodge
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twins for the rest of his time and then Gerald Cilenti takes over.
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It's like, there's, this wasn't about Fauci's emails.
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I would say, but his emails, Alex, come on.
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I mean, wow.
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That is about as stirring an admission of the emails being a giant nothing as you could
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possibly get.
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Like, yeah, because they don't, it doesn't even need to be true.
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It's never needed to be true.
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That's the, you can lie about any of it.
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And they're still just like, I don't think this one has legs.
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That's I feel like that's what people are coming to the conclusion right now.
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It does feel like a big whiff.
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And you know what, here's the thing too.
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Like the way that it feels like a big whiff from everything that I've been able to tell
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the things that I've read, Alex's response here.
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That's a real problem because there should be something in there that's really damning
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if any of the stuff that Alex was saying is true.
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Like there should be something that is fucked up.
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There should be like a message between him and his Chinese handlers.
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Totally.
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Totally.
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Because then what you're saying, like the, okay, okay, so you got all of his private
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emails now.
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They were leaked, man.
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You've got all of this information.
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This is the proof that you are looking for.
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And none of it backs up what you're saying.
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So you then have to say like, no, no, no, no.
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So where is it?
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He's got a secret email address that he can, and it's like, then, then what's the point
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of ever leaking anything if it doesn't prove what you like.
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And then you're just going to say it's secret that it goes back to the goddamn hodge twins
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being like, you've got a real opportunity to prove that conservatives are idiots right
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here.
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You guys have been doing it for us for so many goddamn years.
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Yeah, if you have this giant tranche is a word that Alex loves to use.
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It's a great word in his defense.
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Of emails that have come out that, you know, you'd think would be something that you could
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use to build the narratives that you've been building forever.
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Totally.
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You'd think that this would give you some kind of an insight into what was going on.
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And instead, so much of the emails that I've read are very indicative of learning along
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the way and like the changing awareness is and like at the beginning, people did not
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know a whole lot and it, I don't know, it kind of weirdly reinforces reality.
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I mean, from, from what I understand, it is really like reinforced my, I suppose, confidence
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in the people who are doing this, because at every point in time, you know, obviously
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looking back, you would say obvious.
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If we knew everything, we wouldn't have done it differently or be able to handle that better.
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Duh.
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But the way that you see the progression there is exactly how you would want people to do
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it.
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As we get more data, we're finding out whether or not this data is useful or non useful.
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We're taking the data that we can use and we're using it to refine our process.
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We're taking that refined process, putting it back into the system, getting useful and
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non useful data, and then refining it still further.
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And it's like, that's exactly how I want people to work.
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That's how I want like science to work.
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Exactly.
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It's how it works.
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At no point in time, did you hear anybody just making these giant guesses?
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I did.
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I did.
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I heard one guy.
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Oh yeah.
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Alex.
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Yes, exactly.
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No, at no point in time in the emails was it like, Hey, we don't know anything about
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hydrochloroquine or how it works just yet, but let's just go ahead and say it's great.
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You know, like it didn't happen like that.
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And the fact that it happened for other people like that should give you giant realizations
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that they're dumb, but that won't happen.
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Probably not.
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Because it would be hard.
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You'd have to think.
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Yep.
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Anyway, it was kind of a bummer because I was hoping for a little bit more stuff to
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dig into as opposed to just new salmon.
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Yeah.
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Just so that you read all those emails.
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You got a lot of ammo in your gun for a werewolf that ain't coming.
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To be clear.
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First of all, I love that metaphor.
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That was a good metaphor.
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I'm surprised.
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That was off the dome.
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Yeah, it was nice.
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But I also like, I didn't read all of them, but I read enough to get a very general sense
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of what a lot of these are and what the people are talking about in the conspiracy sites.
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And Alex is just doing nothing here on the second.
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Bummer.
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Yeah.
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Maybe later he'll get to it.
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Maybe Leo Zagami will come up with something for him to work with.
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Let's hope.
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Let's hope.
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I need a big swing out of these emails because this isn't even a check swing.
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This is a whiff.
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Yeah.
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And this is also still a little bit on the shorter side of an episode.
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And we're still getting back adjusted after vacation.
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Sure.
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I had not been on vacation for a very long time and I did not realize some of the sleep
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disturbance, some of those challenges.
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And so I appreciate folks giving us a little bit of a, you know, I understand this is only
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like hour and 15.
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We'll get you on Friday.
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We're getting in.
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We're going to get there.
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Come on now.
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And we'll be back for that.
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But until then, Jordan, we have a website.
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We do have a website.
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It's knowledgefight.com.
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Yep.
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We're at Twitter.
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We are on Twitter.
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It's at knowledge underscore fight and I go to betjordan.
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We're also on Facebook.
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If you could please find a local charity or bail fund in your area to help out people
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doing God's work.
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Yep.
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We'll be back.
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But until then, I'm Neo.
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I'm Leo.
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You're on the air.
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Thanks for holding.
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Hello, Alex.
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I'm a first time caller.
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I'm a huge fan.
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I love your work.