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I'm sick of them posing as if they're the good guys, saying we are the bad guys, knowledge
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fight.
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I'm sick of them posing as if they're the good guys, saying we are the bad guys, knowledge
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fight.
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Dan and Jordan, knowledge fight.
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We need money.
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Andy and Candace, Andy and Candace.
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Stop it.
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Andy and Candace, Andy and Candace.
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It's time to pray.
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Andy and Candace, you're on the air.
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Thanks for holding us.
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Hello, Alex.
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I'm a first-time caller.
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I'm a huge fan.
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I love your work.
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Knowledge fight.
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Knowledgefight.com.
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I love you.
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Hey, everybody.
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Welcome back to Knowledge Fight.
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I'm Dan.
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I'm Jordan.
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We're cool dudes.
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Let's sit around, drink novelty beverages, and talk a little bit about Alex Jones.
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Oh, indeed we are, Dan.
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Yes.
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Yes, Jordan.
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Dan?
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Jordan.
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Quick question for you.
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What's up?
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What's your bright spot today?
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I mean, hey, look.
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Everyone's tired of plant stuff, but my cucumber.
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Are they?
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Has anybody said they're tired of plant stuff?
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No.
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I'm just projecting.
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Oh, okay.
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That's fair.
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But my cucumber plant finally gave me a fruit.
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I did.
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And I've finally been able to eat my first thing that was grown on one of my own plants,
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and it was exhilarating, it was overwhelming, and I kind of feel a little bit bummed out
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about it, because if it was something I actually really enjoyed, I might have cried.
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Sure, sure, sure.
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I might have cried if it was a really nice hot pepper, but instead it was a cucumber,
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which I'm wishy-washy on at best.
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Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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That's true.
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That's true.
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So it was emotionally overwhelming to have this thing that I've taken from seed to fruit,
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but then I'd also be like, even if it was a perfect cucumber, I don't know how excited
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I would be.
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It's just a cucumber.
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But it was still really cool.
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You know what you should do?
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You should take one of the cucumber slices and freeze dry it, and then frame it.
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Some people frame their first dollar that they made in business, that kind of thing.
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I think that's a great idea.
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I am, uh...
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There's no problem with that idea whatsoever.
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I feel like I might do that.
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I feel like I could be dangerously close to being tucked into doing that.
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Yeah, I mean, if it came off the tree a pickle, I think I'd be excited.
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I'd be more excited, but...
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I think that's probably true of the world, too.
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Yeah, yeah.
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So anyway, I mean, it's weird to be in a position where, like, I never thought any of this stuff
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would work out.
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Sure.
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Any of the plants that I've planted would actually get to a point where you could eat
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something.
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Right, right, right.
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And there's a lot more success than I expected, and that's really exciting.
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So that's a very big, bright spot for me.
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That is.
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That is.
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I took a bite, and it's actually very good.
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I forced you to eat a slice of my cucumber.
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You did not force me.
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You showed it to me, and I was like, oh, I'm excited to eat it.
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I would have.
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You are projecting art.
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I would have forced you.
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Wow, that's true.
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That's true.
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I was like, I'd love to eat it.
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You knew you were going to eat a slice of that cucumber.
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Inevitably, I was going to eat it, so I might as well enjoy it.
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So what's your bright spot?
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Was it my slice of cucumber?
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Dan, no.
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I know everybody's getting tired of tennis, or whatever it is.
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By everybody, I just mean you.
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True.
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But the French Open has begun today.
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And also my beloved Cubs clinched post-season birth yesterday.
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Go Cubs, go.
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One against the Sox today, last game of the season.
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Wasn't it abbreviated?
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Wasn't it abbreviated in season?
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Oh, it was incredibly abbreviated.
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It was 60 games.
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It felt like it was.
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Oh, OK.
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Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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That's 100 fewer than normal.
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Yeah, yeah.
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I felt like it went real fast.
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Yeah.
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Isn't that funny how baseball is?
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60 games is almost an NBA season, a full season.
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And in baseball, you're like, Jesus, it's over already?
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I think we learned an important lesson, and that is that the season is far too fucking
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long.
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Way too long?
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We learned a lot in baseball, and we shouldn't do that.
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Well, you're wrong on one count.
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What?
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That we shouldn't do that?
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Exactly.
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But it is too long.
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It is too long.
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Yeah.
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No reasonable person would say otherwise.
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Well, congratulations to your Cubbies.
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Yes.
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And very excited for you to watch more tennis.
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Two weeks, and then Rafa will have another French Open, tying Federer for the most majors
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ever won.
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Neither of them can hold a candle to my boy Agassiz.
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How dare you?
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How dare you with your glued-on wig?
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I don't know anything about him except it's a name that I remember from when I was younger.
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I hope he's not a monster.
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No, he's great.
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Okay.
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He's very good.
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It's a relief.
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No, it's all right.
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So, Jordan, today, speaking of monsters, we're going to be talking about the September 27th,
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2020 episode of the Alex Jones show.
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I'm Dan, this is Alex Jones.
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God damn it.
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Wait, 2020?
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I fucked up.
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Did you say god damn it's Alex Jones?
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Yep.
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Anyway, it's an interesting time.
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And what I wanted to do for this episode was talk about anything except Alex Jones.
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However, the present day required that we discuss things because-
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Why?
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Did anything new happen?
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Yeah.
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At the end of last week, Trump announced his pick for the Supreme Court, which was of course
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Amy Coney Barrett.
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That's great.
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And I thought that we needed to find out what Alex's response to this was, because immediately
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when Ginsburg passed away, Alex said that the inside scoop was that Coney Barrett was
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the choice.
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Totally.
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She was the choice and Alex was excited about this.
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Of course.
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Then he started to talk to Robert Barnes, his former lawyer and noted weirdo.
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And Barnes was coming in with some real hot mess talk about Barrett, saying that she was
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going to let the pope decide the Supreme Court.
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They decided that she was the worst pick possible.
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Of course.
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She was basically an authoritarian weirdo.
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You got it.
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And that Barbara Lagoa was the choice that Trump should make.
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Sure.
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Barnes pitched Lagoa as somebody who would give him basically a win in Florida.
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Right.
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Was a perfect choice, very conservative, doesn't have a lot of the baggage that Barrett may
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have.
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Do you mean like being in a cult?
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Well, they wouldn't put it that way.
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Surprise.
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You might, as a former cult member, and that's your prerogative.
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It's a little bit there.
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And so, you know, they were really anti-Barrett in the days prior to Barrett's nomination.
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They were really pushing for Lagoa and, boy, it didn't work out.
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Yeah, they accidentally tapped into the reality of evangelical Christians, which is that they
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hate Catholics.
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Somehow this is getting lost in all of this rah rah, how dare you criticize Catholicism.
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This shan't be analyzed by Alex, so we will leave it aside for now.
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Of course.
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But one thing I thought was really interesting was, like, okay, so that announcement came,
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and so Saturday, Alex usually, whenever there's big news, will have a Saturday episode.
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Right, right.
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He didn't have a Saturday episode, so we had to wait until Sunday, so we're recording this
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fairly late, and so we could see what his Sunday reaction would be to the announcement
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of Trump.
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Loves it.
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He's been nominating somebody that he and his buddy Barnes, who he respects greatly
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and is a great constitutional lawyer.
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The two of them have almost daily been talking about how it would be a huge mistake to nominate
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Barrett.
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Yeah.
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She sucks.
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She's a choice of the Federalist Society, and there are a bunch of monsters on the right.
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So I was really curious, how is this going to play?
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It seems like now that Barrett is the choice, it seems like it's going to be tough to justify,
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so we're going to see how it goes.
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I think you're wrong.
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Well, I think they might have to stoop to some levels that you might not expect.
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Okay, okay.
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That's sad.
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But I was curious to see how it was going to play out, and that's why we are doing this
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episode kind of late.
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Sure, sure.
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A little down to the wire, but I think it may be worth it.
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Let's do it.
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Before we get down to business on that, Jordan, let's take a little moment to say thank you
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to some folks who have signed up and are supporting the show.
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Oh, that's a great idea.
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So first, Pascetti Western, thank you so much, you're now a policy wonk.
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I'm a policy wonk.
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Thanks, Pascetti!
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Thank you.
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Next, Sawyer, thank you so much, you're now a policy wonk.
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I'm a policy wonk.
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Thank you very much, Sawyer.
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I hope it's not the character from Lost who I don't like.
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No, it's got to be him.
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Barrett told you about how much I don't like Sawyer?
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Uh, yes you have, but I think we were drunk one night, and you made me watch the first
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episode of Lost, and the whole time you fucking shit all over the show you love.
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Well, I don't like a number of characters on it.
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A lot of the characters suck, the Sawyer among them, but this Sawyer donated to the show
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is not a fictional character, and is wonderful, so thank you very much.
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Next, Andy Jay, thank you so much, you're now a policy wonk.
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I'm a policy wonk.
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Thank you, Andy!
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Thank you!
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Next, George Soros, Antifa Slush Fund, thank you so much, you're now a policy wonk.
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I'm a policy wonk.
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Thank you very much, GSASF.
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Yep, you got it.
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Next, Kmart, thank you so much, you're now a policy wonk.
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I assure you, it is not the Kmart, this is not sponsored by Kmart.
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That would be a surprising move for an ad agency, it's just like, here's our trick,
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we've got one show where they will call out your name no matter fucking what.
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And that's cut rate for an ad.
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If this were Kmart, that would be genius.
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We have discovered a real problem here, and this is called arbitrage.
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There are so many problems with the way that we do this.
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This is the stupidest thing in the world.
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We are not good.
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No.
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We're operating as if we're a podcast where no one's listening, because we are still thinking
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that's the case, because that was the case, and we haven't updated how we do this.
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Why would we?
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Oh god.
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No, I'm part of an old-fashioned store, we've been doing it this way since 1974.
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It causes me a lot of headaches.
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So thanks, Kmart.
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Yes, thank you.
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Next, Obadiah H, thank you so much, you're now a policy wonk.
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I'm a policy wonk.
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Thank you, Obadiah!
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Thank you.
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And finally, I'd like to say thank you to a couple of folks who signed up on elevated
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love, we appreciate that very much.
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So first, Frank L, thank you so much, you are now a technocrat.
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Patrick B, thank you so much, you are now a technocrat.
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And Josh B, thank you so much, you are now a technocrat.
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I'm a policy wonk.
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Crikey, mate, that's fantastic, have yourself a brew.
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How's your 401k doing, bro?
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Alright, we gotta go full tilt boogie on this, Watson, alright?
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Let's just get down to business.
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We ain't making that money off that heroin.
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Why you pimps so good?
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My neck is freakishly large.
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I declare info war on you.
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Thank you so much, Frank, thank you so much, Patrick, and thank you so much, Josh.
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Yes, thank you very much to all of you.
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If you're out there listening and you're thinking, hey, I enjoy this show, I'd like to support
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these gents, too, you can do that by going to our website, knowledgefight.com, clicking
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the button that says support the show, or...
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Or what you could do is...
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I see your eyes looking around my desk for anything.
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No, I'm not looking at your desk, I'm looking in my mind to see if there's anything rolling
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around in there, and all I can think is, what you can do is be browbeaten by the administration
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of your school into doing absolutely nothing until you're late.
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Wait, is that like me?
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No, this is like my partner is dealing with the fucking...
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I thought I was the metaphorical administration of your school that was browbeaten you into
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doing this bit.
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No, no, no, no, no, not at all.
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Normally I fucking pull this off perfectly every time.
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Oh, yeah, absolutely.
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Absolutely.
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Anyways...
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And with your supportive partner in the scene, right here, who thinks nothing but the best
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of how you choose to do this.
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Yeah, I really like the old no butt improv style.
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That look in your eye is like a nightmare on an improv stage.
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That look in your eye was, oh no.
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I was just overwhelmed with all of the tears, just the tears.
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I do this every time, every episode now.
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I tell you, or...
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Oh, do you want me to try and not improv it?
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Do you want me to plan in advance and make it real disingenuous?
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I would like it to be, I mean, I would assume by this point it would be less of a surprise
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for you.
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I don't want you to necessarily script something out.
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That's not what I'm asking.
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Just come in with a little bit of a plan.
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I'm not even saying that.
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I'm saying the surprise and terror in your eyes seems...
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I don't know.
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It seems like an indication that you might not be able to learn things.
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I'm worried about you being a memento guy.
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That might be true.
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Maybe get a tattoo on your arm.
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Come up with a thing to do right there.
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Dad is going to pimp you into a scene.
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Just get that tattooed on your arm so you don't forget.
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That's not a terrible idea.
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It is.
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It is a terrible idea.
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I told you.
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I told you.
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I was off a little bit before we even started recording.
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Look, that tattoo on your arm is a terrible idea, but what's not a terrible idea is taking
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that generosity and directing it to a charity in your area.
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How dare you swoop in like the hero?
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How dare you swoop in like you fucking nailed this the whole time, like this was your goddamn
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plan.
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That's why they call me the vulture.
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I come in for those bits that are dead on the ground and I take the meat.
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Alright, I like it.
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I like it.
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You're a nice little Horatio Sans on the improv.
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And that'll be our next shirt is me as a bit vulture.
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Alright.
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That was great.
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That was good stuff.
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So Jordan, today, like I said, 27th Sunday episode, Alex comes in and he wants to talk
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about important issues.
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Sure.
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Actually, I should say, here's an out of context drop from today's show where he's talking
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about serious.
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He talks about serious issues on this show.
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I've got tons of entertaining Antifa clips, I've got all sorts of funny videos about all
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this cutesy stuff.
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You know what?
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I'm not covering all that.
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This is a broadcast for really serious people.
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This is a broadcast for serious people.
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That's the out of context drop from the middle of the show.
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From the middle of the show.
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Right.
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So now I should tell you, this is how the show starts.
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Alright.
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I thought I'd start with something that's really at the heart of it.
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Remember four years ago, how M4 Warriors took over all the live events and said Bill Clinton's
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a rapist and pointed out that Bill Clinton and Hillary were globalists and tied to Jeffrey
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Epstein's pedophile island.
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We would talk about Jeffrey Epstein on national TV and take over live events.
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So much so they canceled most of their live events the last few weeks.
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Did they?
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Well, they were out front just yesterday at CNN, the full videos on M4Wars.com.
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CNN was outside the Supreme Court building and thought they'd be able to go live out
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there.
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Turns out everywhere CNN goes, this now happens.
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Justice on the Supreme Court over the next 30 or 40 years.
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Right.
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Well, absolutely.
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I just wanted to say that while we were here, the crowd behind us supported.
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So that's cool.
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Serious people.
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Serious people.
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It's like on Good Morning America whenever they had the window open behind you and all
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those people were standing, kind of like waving at the camera and shit, like instead imagine
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a bunch of people with rocks just like slamming on the glass during the broadcast.
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Yeah.
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Alex didn't go really hard about Epstein back then.
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He was doing some Pizzagate stuff though, that's for damn sure.
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But the thing that I think is really interesting is what Alex is describing is that in the
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last election cycle, he literally paid people to go yell Bill Clinton's a rapist.
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Yes, he did.
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And if they got on TV, he would give them a bonus.
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Right.
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And now they're doing it for free.
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That's what's going on.
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That's the win of a grifter.
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That's the real like, I put in money up top, it was an initial investment and it's always
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going to pay off.
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It's almost as if these people forgot that they were getting paid to do it to begin with
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and now...
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They just delight in the monstrosity.
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Right.
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And the same expectation of some sort of a charge or a payment that will not come.
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So serious people, it's real serious.
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Real serious.
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We're starting the show talking about people yelling at a CNN.
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Say that's fake news.
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Great.
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Fake news.
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So it turns out the Bidens.
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What about them?
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They hate everybody.
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Sure.
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And Alex has this information that he's reporting from a very trustworthy source.
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Okay.
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They grew up next door to their bar and to their restaurant, they even, I think, sold
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them some property, he was saying.
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And that's Tyler Nixon up in Delaware.
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They're on record being family friends because they live next door to each other.
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And there's a lot of correspondence, photos, all that on record.
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Good thing we got it on record.
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They hate everyone and think they're elitist and just have this air, this imperious nature.
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Yeah, great.
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Tyler Nixon has told you.
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And they're on record as being friends because we can, let's look that up.
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Google that.
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Okay.
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Yeah, I don't care.
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Tyler Nixon is Roger Stone's lawyer friend.
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What about it?
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I don't care.
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Are you saying that he's coming in to this with some sort of agenda or bias?
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I'm going to say that I'll take a different source on character stuff about the guy who's
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running against the guy who got Roger Stone out of prison, maybe.
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He hates everybody, says John Wayne Gacy.
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Don't care about Tyler Nixon's character assessments.
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So for the longest time, Alex has been, every single episode, he's been like, hey, 46 days
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till the election.
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Sure, sure.
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You know, like really counting down, he has a show that's actually called Election Countdown
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now.
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Yes, that's true.
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On the weeknights.
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And now he's, he's started to change what his countdown is now that things are getting
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a little closer.
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Liftoff on this live Sunday, September 27th, 2020 transmission, 114 days out of the inauguration.
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Motherfucker.
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To the election.
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Fuck you.
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Now, as everyone knows, Infowars Business is promoting human freedom and liberty.
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Sure.
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Infowars Business is being tomorrow's news or next week's news, next year's news today.
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And I don't need to go over if you're a regular listener, all the things that we've accurately
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chronicled over the horizon that has now manifested itself.
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As soon as he said that, my eyes rolled back in my head and just like, there was a download
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of all the things he's been wrong about cascading before my eyes and it's like, okay.
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I know that you're going to try and relish in being right about the Amy Coney Barrett
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selection.
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And you're going to try and maybe pretend that you didn't say that it was the worst
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decision possible.
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Sure.
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But yeah, okay.
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You were right about that.
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Yeah.
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So there were a lot of people.
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Yeah.
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There were a lot of people who were saying that she was on.
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I was pretty sure that was like the moment, no, hours after Ginsburg died, it was everybody
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going like, I think the consensus is Amy Coney Barrett is going to be.
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Yeah.
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And Alex, I mean, I'm not taking it away from him that initially that was the direction
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he was going.
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It's like, hey, it looks like she's the pick.
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Sure.
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But he was far from the only person who was putting that out in the days after Ginsburg's
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passing.
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Totally.
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So Alex gets into talking about something else that he was totally right about way before,
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way ahead of everybody else.
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And this is a bit of rewriting history and a bit of just making things up.
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I mean, at the Davos Group, they put out a report in February saying, we're going to
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use COVID-19 to lock down the economy, bringing global digital tracking apps on everybody's
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phones, shut down all small businesses and start a third world to death lower carbon
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emissions.
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They call it the great reset.
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We were saying in February, this looks like the big reset that Davos has been calling
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for to shut down the world economy and consolidate power for them.
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So Alex is making up a lot of the specific details there.
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We got into this on a past episode, so I'm not going to break down again how all of this
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stuff about using COVID-19 to take over shit is, that's just completely made up.
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However, I'd like to point out how little Alex seems to remember or care about the details
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of his own stupid conspiracies.
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He says that the Davos Group put out this document, the great reset, in February.
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The reality is that the thing that he's referring to is a huge online presentation that you
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can access yourself if you'd like to, which was hosted by the World Economic Forum, not
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the Davos Group.
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It was posted online on July 14th, not in February.
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The thing here is that the Davos Group isn't really an actual title of something.
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The World Economic Forum does hold their meeting every year in Davos in Switzerland, which
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is colloquially referred to as Davos, Davos Meeting.
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If Alex were interested in accurately conveying information or even new, he would say that
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the World Economic Forum put out this report, not Davos, because it's precise, it's inaccurate.
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It would be like if the World Economic Forum held a thing in Austin and he called it the
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Austin Group.
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Right, I mean the Bilderberg Group is the name of an actual group, and it was named
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after where they had their first meeting.
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This is different.
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The World Economic Forum has a meeting at Davos called Davos.
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But to be fair, a lot of people do talk about these people as the Davos folk.
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But it's not a real thing, and people who put out this great reset presentation is a
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real thing.
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It's the World Economic Forum.
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He's sloppy with his language on purpose.
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This great reset presentation was released by the World Economic Forum in July based
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on a publication written by Terry Malaret and Klaus Schwab, and it was basically about
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exploring the ways in which COVID-19 has revealed fixable problems and how things are structured
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across a great swath of things, like ecological issues, economic issues, it's very wide-ranging.
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Alex is saying it's from February, because that's when he thinks the Davos meeting was,
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this year.
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But it was actually January 21st to 24th.
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But February is when he would have been mad about it.
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Yeah, that makes more sense.
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But Alex is just talking shit.
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And if you pay close attention, I think that there's actually a strong indication in there
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that Alex is intentionally lying.
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Listen to this section again, and listen closely to where Alex says when the thing came out.
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I mean, at the Davos group, they put out a report in February saying -
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Alex seems to know that the report came out in July.
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He did almost say July.
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Wow.
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Yeah.
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He seems to know when it came out, but he knows also that that information doesn't fit
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with the narrative, that he's using high-level globalist documents to inform his reporting.
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He wants the audience to think that he knew back in February that COVID-19 was a plot
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to control society because he read this Davos group document, but if that document didn't
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exist in February, that falls apart.
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That is an issue.
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That's a little hole there.
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Alex catches himself when he's about to say July, because he knows that that would invalidate
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the whole timeline that he's building, so he lies that back to February.
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He knows exactly what he's doing.
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This is all just complete nonsense.
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In February, he said there would only be lone survivors.
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Well, that was Mike Adams, who he pretends not to know now.
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Oh, well, that's fair.
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That's fair.
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I just can't -
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Isn't that -
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You can't start saying - and then say, oh, no, no, February.
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That's - but that's so much worse.
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Yeah, it's a bit of a tell.
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Yeah.
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Also, isn't it weird to think that Mike Adams is not in Full Wars anymore because he took
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COVID too seriously?
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Yeah, I don't even bother.
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Everything is topsy-turvy surreal now, so I just let that all slide.
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That one is a matter for historians.
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Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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You guys figure that one out.
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We'll deal with that down the line.
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So Alex gets to talking about those two police officers who were shot in Louisville.
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And this is actually something that I think is really important.
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Not the story itself, but the methodology by which Alex tells the story.
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District attorneys in the areas being shot are not even charging.
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The people that are shooting police.
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You heard that right.
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In Louisville, they arrested the man who in front of everyone fired premeditatedly with
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a handgun, shot a cop in the leg and the gut to police.
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He's not being charged with attempted murder.
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So this whole thing is just a charade.
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The suspect in the shooting of the police officers in Louisville has been identified
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as Lorenzo Johnson, and he's been arrested.
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According to an article in WLKY out of Louisville, quote, he's charged with 14 counts of want
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and endangerment on police officers and two counts of assault on police officers.
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He's pled not guilty and a bond of $1 million was set.
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Alex is trying to play games with his coverage here.
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He's saying that the liberal district attorneys won't even charge this guy, presumably because
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they support shooting cops.
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But that's absolutely not true.
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He is being charged, which is why Alex then says he's not being charged with attempted
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murder.
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So if anyone calls him out over his clear misreporting, he can say that he meant that
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the liberal district attorneys won't charge him with attempted murder, not that they weren't
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charging him at all.
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Sure.
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Alex is making two separate claims in that sentence, that they aren't charging the shooter
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at all and that they're not charging him with attempted murder.
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The narrative in the story only has weight if you accept the first claim because it's
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outrageous, whereas the second claim makes some sense.
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It might be an issue where the punishment for first degree assault on a cop is pretty
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steep, and if the evidence they have might not be successful in leading to a conviction
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on attempted murder charges, the prosecutors might decide that this is the best way to
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prosecute the crime.
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The fact that Johnson isn't being charged with attempted murder is something that's
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very easy to understand without having to jump to the conclusion that the district attorney
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must love people who shoot cops.
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The explanation that assault charges are far more likely to be successfully prosecuted
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makes total sense, and rational people can understand why a DA would choose that route.
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Conversely, it's much harder to understand how a DA would take someone who is suspected
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of shooting police officers and not charge them at all.
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This is the sort of thing that Alex can use to drum up fear and anger in his audience
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because it seems like the only explanation for that would be if people in the DA's office
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want to promote shooting the police.
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Does seem like that.
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Alex wants his audience to hear and respond as if there are no charges for this shooter,
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but he only wants to be held responsible for reporting that there are no attempted murder
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charges.
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Yeah, that's a nice spot to be in.
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He plays this game a lot.
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Yeah, I do like only receiving the consequences for the thing that is true, but not the lying
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part.
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That's good.
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That's great.
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And a little bit later in the episode, he even does this again.
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The final straw is letting Islamicist and communist kill and firebomb and rape people
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and not charge them, and that's now happening across the United States.
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It's unbelievable.
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I got a stack of news on that coming up.
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You hear what I said?
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You walk up to a police line, pull a gun and shoot two cops in the stomach and the leg,
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confess to it, and they don't charge you with attempted murder.
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That's Lulu Kentucky.
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See, at the beginning, it's talking about people shooting cops and there's no charges.
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Then they're not charged with attempted murder.
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Once these two realities to be in people's heads, emotionally respond to the part about
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them being no charges for shooting the cops, and then intellectually, if Alex has to argue
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it, he could be like, I was just in and weren't charged with attempted murder.
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Like, go fuck yourself.
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You know what you're doing.
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So in this next clip, we get to a little bit of a reveal kind of about Alex's days till
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the inauguration now instead of days till the election, and that is because we have
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a new narrative.
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That is the time between the election and inauguration might be hell, okay, might be
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the rapture.
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I don't know.
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All right.
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It's not even going to be the mail-in ballot itself that does that.
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That bullet's already been fired.
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That arrow's already been loosed.
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It's the Democrat judges in Michigan and other states like Pennsylvania saying they're going
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to keep the election going for months, if not longer, some say weeks, others say months,
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to quote, make sure all the ballots are counted, to create a civil war crisis in America.
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I don't think the last part, sir, excuse the last part, sir, 79 days in another brazen
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attempt, just like the Russia hoax, to claim that the election of Donald John Trump, the
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45th president of the United States, the first time and the second time is illegitimate.
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They know they're losing.
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Mr. President, you have the Podesta war game that even the New York Times reported on that
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they can't deny where they say we're going to contest it because we know we're going
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to lose, and then we try to hold it up to inauguration day and hope the military takes
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out Trump.
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Those are quotes.
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No, they're not.
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No, they're not.
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Yeah, that's all nonsense.
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I'm real mad, I'm real mad when you invert reality at 180 degrees, Dan, that's annoying
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and boring.
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What about 79 degrees of hell?
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What about 98 degrees of fun?
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Nick Lachey?
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Yeah, is this where I was going?
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Yeah, 79 days of hell is probably going to be an info wars shirt soon or something.
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I mean, it's just, you can smell the branding.
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Oh, God.
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Yeah.
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Oh, man.
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Yep.
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So, I guess, I guess that's where we're at now.
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The election is going to happen and then any kind of time that's needed to count ballots
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and to go through the process is going to be the hell that is the hoax that is stopping
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Trump from getting elected, rightfully, of course, and Alex can misrepresent this Podesta
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thing that he didn't even read.
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Great.
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I'm not, you know what I'm not looking forward to?
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What's that?
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Anything?
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I'm not looking forward to reporting this on Sunday and Alex was on air when the news
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was breaking about the New York Times article about Trump's taxes.
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Sure, sure, sure, sure.
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I am not looking forward to, like he doesn't know about it on this episode.
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Oh, no.
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I am not looking forward to what his spin is going to be on that.
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Oh, my God.
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That's going to be brutal.
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I don't want to deal with it.
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No.
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Anyway.
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No, no, no.
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Me neither.
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We'll deal with that when it comes.
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Throw a stone.
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So, what Alex wants Trump to do, and he's basically begging him to do this.
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He's been, he spends almost an entire segment, what he thinks is a direct message to Trump.
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He's like, Mr. President, you need to do this.
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He wants Trump to come out with an ad or a series of ads that essentially argues that
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he's already won the election.
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You know, basically, that what's going to happen afterwards is I have rightfully won
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and any attempt by Democrats to say anything is them trying to interfere with the election.
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I want a free and fair election, and as we all know, the outcome of a free and fair election
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is already decided.
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Which will be, I have won.
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Exactly.
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Yeah, that's basically-
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And I will accept no other explanations.
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Alex wants Trump to come out with that ad campaign now.
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You know you put out these unprecedented ballots and mailed them to dead cats, literally, about
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10 years ago, so you can hold things up, and here's where Podesta said it, and here's where
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Hillary said it, and put out the ads that go like this.
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And we have all the documents, it's in the news, we've covered it.
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Secretly over a year ago, Democrats began to approach the Pentagon and ask them to remove
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President Trump if he really won the 2020 election.
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And then it goes on.
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The Pentagon said no.
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I think Alex is trying to pitch himself as the VO guy, the voiceover guy for that series
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of commercials.
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Donald LaFontaine.
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Yeah.
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Hey, Trump, please let me be the voice of your commercials.
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In a world where only one man can legally win an election, will we survive?
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Yeah.
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He's really, really trying to push this talking point hard, and it's scary, because it's pretty
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authoritarian, dictator-y-
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No, no, no, it's great.
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Kind of talking point.
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It's great, Dan.
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Mm-hmm.
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Mm-hmm.
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And if you think that that's kind of dictator-y and kind of scary, Alex gets into talking
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about, hey, if there's all of these protests, which are going to destroy cities, Trump might
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have to call in the military to put down protesters, and then they're going to call him a dictator.
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Who among us has thought that crossing the Rubicon was a bad idea?
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When they activate the BLM and the operatives they've got the BLM and Antifor are just decoys
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for as patsies as cover.
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They're going to say when the military has to get deployed, when you've got 10 times
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the burning you currently see, that that's Trump's martial law, you see, and trick everybody,
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and then it's going to get even worse.
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And so they believe the crisis will be so big... Oh, here's the other part.
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They're going to drop the stock market 10,000, 15,000 points during the 79 days.
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I forgot that part.
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And then they're going to say, all your pension funds are bad, nothing's worth anything, and
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all the yuppies, even conservatives, are going to be... I remember during the 2008 deal,
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they plunged the markets to get Obama in, and I went to a soccer game with one of my
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daughters.
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What now?
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My middle daughter.
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Excuse me?
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Pee wee soccer.
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Sir?
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All the men had their newspapers out, not even watching the game, just freaking out
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over their money.
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I walked over to them and I'd say, hey, just as soon as Obama gets in, stock market will
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go back up.
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And they were all arrogant yuppies, like, oh, you don't drive a BMW, I'm sure, man,
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what do you know?
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I bet it never comes back, because they're just schmucks, just airheads.
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Alex seems so angry in these fake stories that he tells, like, oh, these yuppies with
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their newspapers, and they look down on me, but I was right, but I...
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Oh, Jesus.
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What the fuck, man?
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Jesus Christ.
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Just...
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That's such a fucking... God damn it.
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So W can destroy the economy in eight years, and then...
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He was only doing that to hold the country hostage so Obama would get elected.
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Okay.
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Well, now that all makes sense.
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Thank you.
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Yes.
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I apologize.
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I apologize.
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I never should have said anything.
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Right.
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Yeah.
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Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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Oh, God.
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Yeah.
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There's magical solutions to all of your little counterpoints based in quote unquote
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reality.
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That's not fair that they get to have the reality that dominates things, and it's not
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real.
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That's not fair.
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I think that's a part of it, though.
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That's not fair.
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Yeah.
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I'm starting to think this whole system is not based in fairness, Dan.
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Nope.
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And apparently, Alex forgot that during the 79 days of hell, they're going to crash the
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stock market.
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Sure.
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Well, you know.
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Oh, I forgot this part.
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Oh, yeah.
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Almost as if I'm making it up as I go along and try to come up with things that'll scare
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you.
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I forgot this part.
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Yeah.
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Ah, you know.
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That's a gigantic detail.
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I forgot that they're also going to send alligators to eat your feet.
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Yeah.
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And it won't be crocodiles.
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No, absolutely not.
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That's gross.
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You would be scared of crocodiles.
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Alligators.
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What is this, Egypt?
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Scary.
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So, yeah.
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We've thought for a long time, based on the propaganda that people like Alex have been
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pushing out, that fake ballots are a problem.
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Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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Turns out, it's not.
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Oh, that's nice.
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Fake ballots aren't the problem.
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Okay.
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What?
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That's great.
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Let's move on then.
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There's a different problem.
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We can just get rid of it.
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Different problem.
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Oh, no.
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It's not steal the election with the fake ballots.
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They know the landslide's too big.
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It's hold it up and create a stock market crash.
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But that's the told us what the plan is.
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Or they plan B is they, and Trump's onto plan A, so they may go plan B and just say, Trump
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loses even though the numbers don't show it, and then have all the major media announce
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it, and then say Trump's insane.
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So the plan with the ballots, I guess, is to have a reason for the decision to take
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longer so they can crash the stock market.
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It doesn't make any sense.
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No, that doesn't make any sense.
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Look, this is all fun and games for Alex, but honestly, I listened to this episode as
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someone who's listened to a lot of Alex's work.
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And if you believe anything he's been saying, there's no reason to think that this election
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matters.
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There's no reason that Alex should be worked up about whether or not the globalists are
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successful in this imaginary plan to keep Trump from re-election, because it's ultimately
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trivial.
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Mere days ago on his show, Alex discussed how the globalists' plan A is to wait until
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robots are working the fields and shit, then they'll make us all like cattle with welfare
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and vaccines and tracking chips, which will lead to the population being killed off in
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a few years.
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Of course.
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However, Alex's life work screwed up the plans and the timeline.
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So it looked like the globalists, who work for the literal Christian devil, were going
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to have to go with plan B, which is the release of super bio-weapons, which will just kill
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everyone, probably through the deployment of robot trash trucks that release electromagnetic
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weapons.
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And they'll do it in a very pouty way.
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How dare you make us kill you faster?
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Because they wanted to have the fun.
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You really ruined it for us, Alex.
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Only a few people will survive this, and when it's all said and done, they'll need to crawl
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out of the rubble and enact vengeance for the fallen patriots.
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Naturally.
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Trump being elected or Biden being elected should not matter at all to anyone who believes
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Alex means a word, he says.
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Sure, you may prefer Trump, but him getting another four years means nothing when the
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globalists will just release super bio-weapons if he threatens their plans at all.
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Mail-in ballots mean nothing.
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Antifa means nothing.
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The stock market crashing means nothing, because none of it has any effect on what the actual
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outcome is.
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If Alex meant a goddamn word that came out of his mouth, and his show wasn't just a platform
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to push for Christian identity politics while scaring listeners into buying his dumb pills,
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this show would not be about politics anymore.
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Every single minute of his show should be dedicated towards educating the population
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about how to survive in this post-super bio-weapon release world so as to increase the chances
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that someone who makes it through will be able to recreate society.
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He's been clear that the globalist plans are not something they can stop, the extinction
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level event is going to happen, so why the fuck is he on air rearranging deck chairs
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on the Titanic?
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Yeah.
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This may seem like a small point, but it's not.
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The fact that Alex cares at all about whether or not Trump stays in office reveals that
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he doesn't believe his own conspiracies.
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He wants Trump to stay in power because that furthers the white Christian identity politics
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that he supports, and he's using the conception of all this conspiracy bullshit in order to
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trick his audience into thinking something bigger is going on to keep them on board.
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That's all that's going on.
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You can't even remember that a couple days ago he was fucking yelling about how like
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all Plan B were all dead anyways, so fucking robot trash trucks from Michael.
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I mean, he was just having an emotional day.
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Of course the globalists are going to kill everybody when he's having an emotional day.
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Look, I drank some codeine cough syrup and watched Soylent Green and I got real freaked
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out and I decided that we're all going to die by way of trash truck, and now, hey, we
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gotta elect Trump.
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It's a life or death thing to elect Trump, because Trump will stop the robot trash trucks.
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If I did know with 100% certainty that the globalists were just going to kill us all
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within the next year, that would almost bring to me a sense of calm.
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Like I wouldn't be angry on air.
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I'd be like, you know, let's appreciate the things that we have in the time we have left.
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We're all going to die no matter what.
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And since we all die at the same time, it's like nobody died.
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Nobody's going to miss us.
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Nobody loses their friends.
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It's all the same.
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Well, I mean the reality with or without imaginary globalist murder is that we all will die and
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we don't have a lot of control over a lot of coincidences in life.
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And a lot of fretting about that is wasted time.
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And I'm guilty of that in the present and in the past.
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And yes, certainly.
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Now, this has made us all take a lot more of the philosophical long view of like, you
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know, these cycles happen.
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Sure, my generation will be decimated, obviously.
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But you know what, this is just part of the long game, Dan.
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You're bumping me up, man.
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Yeah, don't worry about it.
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It's an endless cycle of violence, Dan.
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Come on.
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I just think, I mean, leaving what you're bringing to the table aside, I think...
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Do you want to go back and try that bit again from the beginning?
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No, I think you were fine.
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I just, I don't have a lot to add to it other than just keep bumming me out.
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I think that if you look at what Alex is saying, though, it's a real problem because all this
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should be trivial, minutia to him.
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It should mean nothing.
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His ultimate quest is to stop the globalists.
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And if you believe the way he's been, you know, his rhetoric has evolved, then this
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cycle, it's impossible to defeat the globalists.
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The only thing that can happen is after this cataclysm, people find Soros and take him
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out or whatever, you know?
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And so like, hey, the best way to succeed in your mission is to discuss life after.
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Right, right, right, right.
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How do you clean water?
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Like that would be what his show would be.
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I don't think that's a terrible show.
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I think we should probably find a show like that and see if we can critique it for being
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racist.
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There's a lot of useful information that he could be conveying to his audience.
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I don't think it's as profitable as being like Biden's a demon who only cares about
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himself so say it, Roger Stone's lawyer, and then trying to like juice everybody up for
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this election that based on his own worldview is meaningless.
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All right, so here's what you can do.
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You can boil water.
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You can also, and this is a thing not a lot of people know, you can put a little bit of
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silver in there and that will also disinfect the water, make it a little bit drinkable.
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Now.
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You're gonna need to wait after that.
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Now.
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Buy my zinc pills, you idiots.
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The post-apocalyptic attorney general of New York Township will sue me for trying to sell
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you silver, but don't listen to her.
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With mud on her face holding a fucking torch.
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Give us the gasoline outright.
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I just get struck by that.
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Like if Alex truly believes that the devil and all this stuff, you know, like the plan
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B is to just kill everybody with the super bio.
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Sure, sure.
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Why not?
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Nothing that he's saying means anything.
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Like all this is so stupid.
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Oh yeah.
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Oh man.
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Anyway.
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Speaking of things that are stupid.
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Yeah.
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Amy Coney Barrett has been announced as Trump's pick.
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Let's be stupid.
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For a nominee for the Supreme Court, Alex has been saying that this is a very bad idea
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with Robert Barnes for a bit, but hey, you got to fall in line.
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And I don't want to be pushing hopium on people.
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We've got a problem and obviously I'm going to end up supporting the nomination because
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the Democrats are going to try to block it.
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They would put somebody in probably even worse.
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At least she's anti-abortion, but she is for force of inoculation.
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What a fucking coward worm.
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Look at this guy.
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I mean, I have a worm farm and I'm calling him a worm.
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This fucking dude.
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He's like, okay, yeah, obviously I'm not into this, but hey, I'm going to support her because
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the Democrats don't like her and hey, they choose someone worse.
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Great.
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Cool.
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Pointless point.
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And then he's like, ah, she's against abortion, but also she's in favor of forced vaccines.
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So then you're saying that you want a Supreme Court justice who is in favor of the globalist
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plan to vaccine and vaccinate everyone and kill them.
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That is strength of conviction, Dan.
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For some reason, Trump nominated her to be on the Supreme Court.
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Odd.
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Despite that belief in her believing and supporting one of the pillars of the globalist plan.
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Yeah.
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Wow.
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Weird.
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Democrats would be worse.
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Way.
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Well, I mean, Democrats would probably put somebody in there who wants to force vaccinate
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everybody, which now that you think about it, that would suggest that there is an elite
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class of people who all want to force vaccinate everybody.
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So Alex should really be against all of them, not for some of them.
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Well, there's a real struggle that Alex is going through because like the Democrats are
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clearly against anybody, Trump nominating anybody in the Supreme Court, especially Barrett.
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She has a lot of ideas that Alex doesn't like, but he's got to support her because the Democrats
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don't like.
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See, whenever you create your politics, that's basically just oppositional defiance.
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Yeah.
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You end up in holes like this.
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It's an issue.
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Yeah.
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Again, the Democrats are already saying, kill her, they hate her, blah, blah, blah.
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I don't like them.
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I'm not trying to join them.
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I'm not saying don't confirm her.
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I'm just saying, my God, I wish I'd have been on this earlier and we'd have been hammering
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this harder to get to the president because I know the president means well.
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And now they've got, well, they're going to have five justices.
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She's going to join the Democrats in forced inoculation and lockdowns, which she just
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ruled on.
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I've got the articles right here.
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So, oh, no, she's pro lockdown and pro vaccines.
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Oh, no.
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Oh, but the Democrats don't like her.
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I can't be opposed to her without joining the Democrat.
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Oh, no.
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See, this is the difference between someone like Alex and someone like Steve Pachanik.
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Like Steve can come on Alex's show and- Fuck Amy Cohen Barrett.
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I think Melania Trump should be on there.
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I have not heard Steve's take on this pick, but when Gorsuch was nominated, Steve was
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like, this is the worst fucking idea ever.
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He's a neocon.
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We can't accept this.
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And he didn't have any qualms about being against Trump's pick for a Supreme Court nomination
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because it violated some piece of his politics.
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He didn't think that like, oh, this is me siding with the Dems or something.
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Alex is such a baby that he can't justify his politics except in opposition to X.
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And so like he thinks, oh, I'm against this nomination because she's a bad candidate.
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I am now a globalist.
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I'm a Democrat.
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There's no other explanation for me- Oh, no.
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I mean, that is such their strength and the reason that they get conned by everybody so
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much is they're unified in one belief.
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Anything the left likes is evil.
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So they don't have to think hard about their political positions and they're a unified
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bloc.
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So they have greater strength.
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Well, another piece of it too- And it also makes you susceptible to anything
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that they don't like means you have to support it.
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Well, another piece of it too that I think, especially in this case for Alex, is that
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obviously he believes that Soros pays all the protesters and he runs BLM and Antifa
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and everything.
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And so the real function of that is to invalidate left leaning arguments that you hear or socially
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responsible social equity type arguments.
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Toss a little PEZ dispenser in there.
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Right.
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Sure.
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Anytime you hear people talking about Black Lives Mattering, there's an element of, hey,
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this is paid.
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Anytime there's protest, it's paid protesters.
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These aren't valid opinions that people would have if they weren't coerced into having them.
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And he's spent so much time with those narratives that, you know, if you're listening to him,
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you could be forgiven if you believe on some level that anybody who believes anything to
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the right or I'm sorry, to the left of Rand Paul is being paid to believe those things.
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It's all astroturf protests and all this.
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It's an illusion.
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It's a foreign takeover or whatever.
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So for Alex, there's a position that it needs to be called artificial and that is opposing
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Amy Coney Barrett as a Supreme Court justice.
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All of this has to be another thing that's like, it's ludicrous for someone to believe
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it, but it's not.
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And Alex himself should be opposed to it and he can't, he can't be opposed to it.
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Not because that's him joining the left, but because that's having the same opinion as
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them and being a free thinker.
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It opens up Pandora's box where the audience could start to realize like, oh, you believe
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the same thing?
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You're not getting paid to believe.
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Maybe they aren't getting paid to believe their beliefs.
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Uh-oh.
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Yeah.
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Can't really jive with that, can you?
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It opens up a box where you could accidentally invite philosophical alliances.
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Well, I mean, what's he going to say?
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I think the Democrats are right on this one?
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Like imagine him saying that in 2020.
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Imagine that.
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Can't do it.
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Get the fuck out of here.
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So Robert Barnes comes in.
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Uh-huh.
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To rub Alex's belly that he's showing to Trump at all times.
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Well, they have to come up with a way to play this because, I mean, obviously you want someone
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like her on the court, but you also don't.
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Right.
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And you have to figure out why the fuck did Trump nominate this person if she's pro-lockdown
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and pro-vaccine.
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Sure seems difficult to figure that one out.
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Yeah.
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Of the 22 judges that the president was considering, only one had supported the lockdown and that
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was Judge Barrett.
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Ooh, this is a deep hole.
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Okay.
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So now you should be against her.
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Oh yeah.
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And William Barr, the attorney general, has come out and said that the lockdown is the
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gravest violation of civil rights since slavery.
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And that's why we need her on the Supreme Court.
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I don't know how you thread this needle.
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I don't think you need to worry about it because reality doesn't worry you, so why bother?
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Well, it turns out that this is all a machination of the Federalist Society.
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Sure.
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Okay.
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So what they told Trump is that she would support him in the election because she was
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part of the Bush v. Gore team and that's how they got Trump to go along with it.
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Trump's not been following the lockdown lawsuits in any detail with the forced vaccination
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cases.
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Brother, I've been busy too.
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You're the one that told me about it.
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I don't know what I was like.
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I guess you can't try that again, Mr. Trump.
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Hey, brother.
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I love that response.
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Hey, Trump didn't know that she was the worst possible choice.
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Brother, I've been busy too.
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I'm busy too.
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What else?
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What else you got?
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Come on.
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Come on.
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Next.
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Next thing.
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Also, the undercurrent there of Barnes' comments are that Trump got bamboozled into electing
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or nominating a pro-lockdown, pro-vaccine, mandatory vaccine candidate because he was
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told she would hand him the election.
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Right.
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Because she was part of the Bush-Gore team whenever Bush stole the election.
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Which Alex has called that.
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That's what he said that was, stealing the election.
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Because it was stealing an election.
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Yeah, so this doesn't seem like a great argument.
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The Federalist Society told him that they could steal the election, and so he said that
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everybody could get vaccinated.
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Think about how truly evil you think everyone involved in that story is if you're Barnes.
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Very.
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How can you not understand that your guy, who's your God King, you telling me that he
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got bamboozled by the Federalist Society?
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Those fuck nuts?
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Well, and think about-
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And that's the guy that you want to be president.
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And think about how pathetic the argument is, too.
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Barnes is saying that these people convinced Trump to nominate this person because of the
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Bush-V-Gore stealing of an election.
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She's gonna help you out, right?
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That's what he gets.
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Now, what she brings to the table, if you're Barnes and Alex, is-
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Lockdowns and forced vaccinations.
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Which they believe is genocide of the entire population.
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So essentially, Trump would've sold out the entire population in order to stay in power.
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That's the argument that he can come up with.
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That's not good.
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No, that's perfect.
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See?
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That convinced me.
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I really love the idea of nominating a Supreme Court justice, ignoring everything that you
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disagree with her about, simply because she is more than willing to help you steal an
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election.
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I don't get it.
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What's wrong with that, Dan?
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It's bad.
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I mean, it's just a shoddy argument.
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But I don't know what else they have, because they obviously want there to be a right-wing
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leading court.
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But at the same time, they've been pretty clear they don't like this lady.
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And also, they can't stop supporting Trump.
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It's very weird.
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It's a real bummer that Republicans are the dumbest fucking people on the planet.
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It's a really interesting box, particularly, that Alex and Barnes have created for themselves.
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If they just hadn't covered this much, and talked all this shit, then they could just
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pretend.
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Yeah, but it's like William Barr.
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They said that Barr was a terrible choice, and then he was elected, and they're like,
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and they know why.
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Because everybody knew why Barr was appointed there.
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Because he had previously helped people cover up fucking crimes, and so he was hired to
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help people cover up crimes.
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Alex does later try to ponder whether she could be another William Barr.
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Someone who, like, helps you cover up crimes.
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Someone who's like, hey, this looks like a bad idea, but Trump can get her in line.
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But she's gonna help me cover up crimes!
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We'll get to that in a little bit.
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But before we do, we have to wrestle with a really difficult thing here, and that is
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that the Koch brothers, well, the one who's still alive, and the Koch Foundations have
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supported Amy Coney Barrett, and that is something, write down for this, because this is gonna
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probably piss you off.
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So the Koch family put in massive amounts of money and effort to make sure Barrett got
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the pick, and they're already spending more money than the Republican Party is to make
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sure she gets on the bench, and people you may not know, the Koch family is big on, they're
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pro-immigration, actually.
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They're also big on protecting big tech.
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Oh, they've given more money to Democrats than to Republicans.
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That's a sigh-op.
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Wow.
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That's one of the first times I've seen you have to get up in your chair.
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Honestly, that makes me shiver.
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I'm physically shivering right now.
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You reacted like you just took a shot at something weird for the first time, like an alcohol
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you've never tasted.
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Like woo!
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Like a surge went through you.
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That's a big swing.
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That's a pachanic-level swing, right there.
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That is gaslighting.
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Wow.
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Wow.
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And what I found that is, like, Alex has now said that being a Libertarian was the stupidest
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thing ever, and like, so he can say that the Libertarians are actually lefties.
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Yeah, secretly Democrats.
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Oh my god.
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Or whatever.
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Kill me.
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Yeah, so the Koch brothers are a sigh-op, and they mostly give Democrats.
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This is going to be a really difficult thing for Alex to unwrite a lot of his career, considering
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the Citizens for a Sound Economy was Koch-funded, and Ron Paul was the first president of it
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way back, and then the Koch brothers, through FreedomWorks, funded and astroturfed a ton
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of the Tea Party, which, I mean, that alone, it's tough to understand how they're pro-immigration.
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Yeah.
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I think it's-
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The people who funded the Tea Party are pro-immigration.
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You know, I'm not enjoying watching or listening to these two guys eat what is clearly a big
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bowl of shit.
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Yeah.
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They're taking big spoonfuls of, like, they're convincing me that it's a bad idea while they're
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trying to convince me it's a good idea.
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Well, I kind of enjoy it, honestly.
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I did, sir!
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Well, here's the thing.
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I agree with you, but that sound you just made is exactly how I feel.
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Yeah.
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Because I enjoy it on one level, which is it's kind of funny to see Alex and Barnes
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be uncomfortable in their own bed.
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Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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You know, like, you did this to yourself.
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Yeah, yeah, you dumb assholes.
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You dumb asses.
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Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
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Like, you have to, like, in order to make things make sense, you have to be like, yeah,
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you know, the Koch brothers are really leftists.
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Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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You know, like, that kind of thing is pretty funny.
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But-
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I am going to take a big bite of this poop.
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Yeah, it's uncomfortable because the reality doesn't change.
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Right.
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Like, laughing at this dumb shit leaves us in the same position that, in the real world-
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Exactly.
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That is, Amy Coney Barrett has a decent chance of getting on the Supreme Court.
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Yep.
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And then what do we do?
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Yeah.
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It's the same thing with laughing at Alex's stupid ideas about the globalists plan A and
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plan B. It's like, yes, this is funny, and this is the only way that you can keep your
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grift running.
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Right, right, right.
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But at the same time, it's really just a facade on the real life issues that you and I and
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everybody listening have to deal with in the real world.
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Yeah.
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And so, yeah, it's bittersweet.
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It's a shit sandwich you can enjoy watching them eat, but you know that, like, it still
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affects you.
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Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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And that does suck.
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It's not unadulterated.
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That's what fucks me up.
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It's not pure schadenfreude.
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I get to schadenfreude, but then at the end of it, I'm just shivering and angry.
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You know, it's a very unsatisfying blue balls feeling of schadenfreude.
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That's one of the problems with the present day stuff, is that's the reality of the issues
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that they talk about, and the real world impact things are going to have tomorrow and the
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week after.
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That are really, it's really tough to fully enjoy it in the same way that looking back
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on the past, you know, that's, we have hindsight, we have a gift of hindsight that makes the
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schadenfreude a little bit purer.
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The consequences are unclear, and that's tough.
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I think what's funny to me is I don't think it really matters too much for them to nominate
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and sit another Supreme Court justice.
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Like because if you add Connie Barrett to that, the Supreme Court is so comically corrupted,
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there's no point in even having it.
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We've talked about this, and I don't wholly disagree with you, but that still...
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But what that means is that even then, you know, whenever, if we elect Biden and that
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actually works, ballots are great, that we were going to have to reckon with the Supreme
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Court anyways.
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Now it's just so blatantly obvious that we have to either pack the court or, frankly,
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remake the entire system that it's like, it's not too much different to me in terms of what's
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going to, or what needs to be done to correct it.
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Do you know what I'm saying?
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Well, yes, and I don't know what the answer to that is, but I do want to offer this slight
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insight from looking at these worlds.
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I think that this could be a critical misstep on Trump's part.
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Amy Coney Barrett is somebody who, specifically because of these pro-vaccine, pro-lockdown
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type positions, is someone who's highly susceptible to attack from the fringe right.
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There is a possibility that this could have such backlash on people who are like Ted Cruz's,
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like these types of people, that they might end up not being able to support her nomination
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for fear of pissing off the QAnon crowd, or those people, the anti-vax crowd, who have
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such loud voices within their coalition now.
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So I think that there's a possibility that this nomination could get stalled to the point
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where it might not go through, and we end up with getting to the election with an opening.
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There are other people that could have been nominated that wouldn't have had that difficulty
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that I think could have put us in a much more difficult position.
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I think that Barrett is probably not good to be on the Supreme Court, but the nomination
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itself might be the best case scenario.
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It's gonna really piss off a lot of the base, Trump's base, and I think that's a positive.
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If I were the Democrats, and I were at the hearing, I would appeal to far-right bigotry,
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more than anything else.
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So that's what you'd do?
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Yeah, I mean, what I would say they should do is, like, a reverse psychology appeal to
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the far-right bigotry.
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Rope-a-dope.
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Like, seriously, just compliment her for all the stuff that she believes that the far-right
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fringe would absolutely lose their shit about.
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Do you mean to tell me, Ms. Barrett, that you believe in science?
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Yeah.
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Seriously.
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Fantastic.
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Like, I think it's great that you believe vaccines are good.
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Who would you prefer a vaccine?
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Would you prefer everyone get vaccinated?
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Ah.
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You know, like that kind of thing?
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It's just over and over and over again until they realize that the far-right is so bigoted
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they won't even deal with the far-right.
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Yeah, I think that that strategy could be useful in some way.
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I mean, somebody should try it.
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I think that- Everything is on the table.
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I think that this is a candidate who is particularly vulnerable to, like, angering that base.
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Totally.
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And I think it is a tool that is in the left's disposal, and the Democrats, if they should
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like to delay this or make this not happen, I think that's the best way to go about it.
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Because there are a lot of people, and Alex rightfully recognizes a couple of the attack
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points that could be used.
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Exactly.
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And I think it would be good.
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Well, they hate her.
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They're clearly saying that they don't like her.
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Yes.
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They're eating shit.
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And they're really setting themselves up for disappointment.
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Totally.
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So Jacobson was the foundation for the Buck decision, which was forced sterilizations
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and the peak of eugenics in America.
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It was the basis for the Korematsu decision, which was the detention camps in America.
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So Jacobson is the most dangerous decision ever issued in American constitutional legal
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history.
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He says, citizens united, we can kill your ass.
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We can put you in a concentration camp.
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Jacobson was cited as the grounds for the forced draft.
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Jacobson was cited as the grounds that you could kill Americans overseas for as enemy
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combatants.
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Jacobson is seen as one of the most evil rulings in US history, but there's been a lot of evil
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ones, and this lady just endorsed it in 2020.
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Man, you talk about shaking that tail feather.
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What are we doing?
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What are you idiots doing?
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You're selling me on not- They're so fucking stupid.
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Yeah, so I mean- God, have a fucking spine.
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Yeah, so this goes to show how potent the potential backlash to this nomination could
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be.
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Totally.
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I don't know, because I'm not a legal scholar, I don't know if Jacobson versus Massachusetts
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is really as evil as they're saying.
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Sure.
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I mean, the underlying case was about a guy in 1905 was when the decision happened.
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There's a guy named Henning Jacobson, and he opposed this law in Massachusetts, where
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vaccines were mandatory, but if you refused to get one, they'd fine you $5, and he didn't
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like that, because he didn't want to pay that $5.
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So the case went up to the Supreme Court, and they ruled against him, finding that the
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Massachusetts law was not unconstitutional, and it was up for legislatures to decide this
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stuff as opposed to the courts.
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Okay.
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That kind of makes sense.
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If you're not getting vaccinated, it creates a public health burden, and that translates
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to public expenses a lot of the time.
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So if you- it is a kind of dicey, hairy territory when it's like forcing people to get vaccines
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or any kind of medical thing, you know, bodily autonomy kind of decisions.
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I don't want to litigate that, because I can't, but I think a fine compromise could be that
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if you don't get a vaccine, you pay a fine.
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Pay five bucks, yeah.
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Let society deal with the potential consequences, and you know, anyway, that's what Jacobson
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is.
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Now, whatever the reality of how it's been used subsequently to that, I don't know.
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Yeah.
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But I do know that Alex and Barnes are saying that it basically is the justification for
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literally all evil, and-
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And she supports it!
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This year she supported it!
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This year!
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Jesus Christ!
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It's not like she's-
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They're so fucking-
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It's not like she supported it the first year out of college.
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She supports it now.
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Now.
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Yep.
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I don't believe how succinctly they are making the case for not supporting her.
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Yeah.
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And at the same time-
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Saying that you've got to support her.
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You've got to support her.
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Yeah.
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That is so fucking pathetic.
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Now, it gets even weirder, because this, like, this was a level of gaslighting that I don't
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think I've experienced even on Infowars.
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Oh no.
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Mic down for this, because it-
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Okay.
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Am I going to shiver again?
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Yes, you are.
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This is a fucking pretzel.
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But I think the bigger message is, we need Trump elected now more than ever.
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Because the effect of Barrett being on the bench means that the only thing stopping forced
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vaccines, the only thing stopping another national lockdown, the only thing stopping
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these sort of George Soros, Koch family, big money elite agenda, Bill Gates agenda, will
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be Donald Trump getting reelected.
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That's amazing.
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We want Trump to appoint this lady, who is pro forced vaccination, in order to stop forced
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vaccinations.
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Well, no, no.
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So Trump did, by himself, make a decision to nominate this person for the Supreme Court,
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and them being on the Supreme Court is going to make forced vaccinations and lockdowns
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happen.
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That's why we need to reelect the person who nominated that person for the Supreme Court,
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because he's the only thing that's stopping forced vaccinations and lockdowns.
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Exactly.
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What the fuck?
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Exactly.
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That makes perfect sense.
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You know what?
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This would be like, legitimately, this would be like trying to argue that we need to vote
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for Hillary to save us from Merrick Garland.
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Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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But it would be, that would even be weaker, because she wouldn't have nominated-
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She wouldn't have nominated, yeah, yeah, yeah.
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If Obama had a second term in 2016, let's say his first election was in 2012, right?
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Sure.
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Just imagine rewrite history.
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Mm-hmm.
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He nominates Merrick Garland.
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Yep.
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Merrick Garland goes through, and then, I don't know, the Young Turks is like making
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the argument that we gotta reelect Obama to save us from Merrick Garland.
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So stupid.
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I just, I just can't, I can't believe- This is the flimsiest shit.
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I just can't believe this.
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You know, you want people to find some backbone in times of crisis.
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Just a little bit.
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But we see it from no one.
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We, no one.
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We- Democrats don't have a backbone, Republicans don't have a backbone, fucking local governments
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don't have a backbone.
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We need Trump to save us from the consequences of Trump's direct appointments.
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That makes perfect sense.
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No one could stop it.
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Because if we had a Democrat in there, they'd nominate somebody who was for forced vaccinations
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and- And lockdowns.
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And lockdowns.
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That would be even worse.
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I guess.
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What?
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Wow.
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I, ugh.
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When I hear things like that, I really wonder if they, like, someone like Barnes even knows
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what he's saying.
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Right.
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Like, he must.
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He's a smart guy, he's a lawyer.
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You would hope.
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You know, like, he's not an idiot.
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I've seen him in various interview scenarios, and like, he knows, like, he has a pretty
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good sense about himself.
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But he's saying legitimately, we need Trump to get reelected to fight against his Supreme
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Court nomination that he chose to make himself.
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It's not even making a lesser of two evils argument, it's making an evil of two evils
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argument.
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You know?
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Like, we have to elect this guy.
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He's evil.
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Wow.
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He put someone evil on the Supreme Court.
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Yeah, he just- The other guy is so evil, and this guy is evil in the same exact way, and
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we gotta get him.
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And what if, like, you know, in the next four years, there's another opening on the Supreme
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Court?
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We might need Trump to have a third term to fight whoever he nominates this.
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I think whenever Trump nominates fucking Bernie Sanders to the bench, we're gonna have to
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elect Trump for a third term in order to keep him from becoming a socialist.
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I don't know what's going on anymore.
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No, this doesn't mean anything.
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Nope.
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They just wanna kill leftists.
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That's all you want?
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Say it!
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And all this shit is such a pretzel, like, you're bending over backwards to blame
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like, oh, the Federalist Society was actually- The leftist Koch brothers are the ones who-
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The Federalist Society has anything other than fucking right-wing dingbats.
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Yeah, and if Trump is as strong of a leader and as brave and smart as you all say he is,
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then the Federalist Society doesn't get to take credit for, like, a nomination that is
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only Trump's to make.
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This is terrible.
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Yeah, very stupid.
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It's really- I must- You know, it's one of those things where I think the right has to
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be a little disappointed in their dictator.
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You know, like, Mussolini wasn't really good at being a dictator, but he was competent.
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You know, they were evil dictators who kinda knew how to dictate right.
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And Trump doesn't even know how to do that right.
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Yeah, they're in a unique position of, like, an embarrassing dictator.
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Yeah!
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That's terrible.
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So you were asking earlier about the William Barr sort of thing, where it's like, you know,
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hey, he's bad, but Trump made him good.
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Sure, sure.
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That argument that they made.
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Yeah.
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And I told you that that comes up.
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And Alex is trying to talk to Barnes about, like, hey, you know, hey, Barr, we didn't
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like him.
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He was sketchy, but it turns out he's pretty good.
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We like him.
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He's doing the stuff we want.
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What about, uh, what about Barrett?
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Maybe she'll be like that.
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And this is so weak.
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This is just the weakest thing ever.
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Trump makes mistakes.
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He gets educated.
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We educate him and warn him on this lady so that when he gets concessions and behind the
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scenes upfront, she gets hit with some real questions by Republicans instead of fawning
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at her so that we can get her position to not be a total traitor.
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Because I think, I think she's a follower, Barrett is, and I think overall she has some
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good ideas, some really bad ideas.
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I think just her MO, now that I've had a chance to look at her, maybe I'm wrong, is that there's
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enough pressure put on her at the hearings and by the culture that she won't be the creature
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of the Koch brothers and that Trump can cut her out or is that just no hope?
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Oh no, there's hope of that because she's a memorizer personality.
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She's not like a, a Bork level intellect.
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So the, she's one of those people that memorized everything in school, it was kind of the teacher's
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pet kind of personality.
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Wasn't Bork also another kind of authoritarian?
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Oh yes, Bork had a lot of crazy ideas.
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He was for forced sterilization as a condition of employment.
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So I was never a Bork fan, but he was extremely intelligent.
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Whereas, so that, that meant he wanted her to move.
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She's not very intelligent actually at all.
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And so she's someone that can through pressure be pushed to change positions.
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So Trump has nominated someone for the Supreme Court who you think is stupid and malleable.
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What is wrong with these people?
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How can you eat this much shit?
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This is so much shit.
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They don't get tired of eating this much shit?
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I'm tired of watching them eat this much shit.
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Yeah.
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All that schadenfreude is fun for a little bit and now it's just watching two people
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eat shit.
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Yeah.
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Eventually that, the novelty wears off and now you're just grossed out by what's happening.
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You're not wrong and you want to think like, well, the alternative must be worse, but what's
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the alternative?
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I mean, like for them.
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Yeah, exactly.
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I don't, I can't imagine that Barnes or Alex is worried about like going to jail or something.
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Like, I don't know what it could be other than like, well, we've made too much of our
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identity and our position in the market surrounding Trump.
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And to go back on that would be to go broke.
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It's like a dance with the one what brung you, you know?
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But if the one what brung you is making you eat shit sandwiches.
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It's stabbing you in the balls over and over and over again.
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Don't dance with them.
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You can find another dance partner.
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That's probably true.
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Go back to Ron Paul.
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He just had a stroke.
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Yeah.
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Don't support Ron Paul, but put him on the Supreme court.
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Fuck it.
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No, no.
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You can go back to like a rallying around him in his time of need.
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You can make that a big deal, the light of Liberty and you know, you could do all sorts
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of shit about that.
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Yeah.
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Just like, and God damn it.
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Why not?
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Why not let this be I'm done with Trump?
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Why not?
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Like based on his narratives, the election doesn't matter.
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The globalists are going to release super bio weapons.
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Who gives a shit?
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Politics is meaningless.
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Who cares?
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Supreme court.
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Doesn't matter.
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Let's leave it alone.
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Trump has fucked us because he nominated somebody who's into forced vaccines.
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I am a man who has a breaking point and this is it.
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I listen, ladies and gentlemen, I believed in him.
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I was given assurances that all this stuff was a Machiavellian games, but I can say that
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this point, the law of the land is determined by the Supreme court and you cannot take lightly
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who someone nominates to be on the Supreme court.
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And if he's going to put somebody in who's in favor of vaccines and a forced lockdowns,
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I say no.
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Or you could get down on your knees, rub, first rub your nose in the shit that you've
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already eaten.
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Leave a little leftovers there and then lick Trump's boots over and over and over again
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until maybe he smiles at you.
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Yep.
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I guess that's the choice.
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That sounds right.
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Yep.
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Anyway, this is a bummer.
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I expected better, but I don't know why.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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Just a bunch of disgraceful dicks.
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It is almost like I expect this and yet at the same time it still surprises me.
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I expect them to pull out bowls of Trump flavored shit and eat it in front of us because there's
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no bottom.
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Yeah.
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But at the same time, how can anyone pull out a bowl of Trump flavored shit and not
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have a problem with it?
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It's becoming farcical.
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This is a parody.
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Yeah.
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Continuing to make an argument for why somebody should not be nominated as though you're saying
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that it's a great choice is a parody.
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Well, but the only way to thread that needle in what they're trying to do, which is just
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transparent and sad, is yeah, this is a bad nomination from Trump, but it's not Trump's
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fault.
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I know.
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It's just, come on guys, just curl up.
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And it's entirely Trump's decision because he's so smart and so great, but also it's
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not his fault because he got bamboozled because he's an idiot.
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Yeah.
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No.
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Because they told him that she would give him another term.
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Because she would steal an election.
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I mean, here's, okay.
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Here's why it's not even parody or why it is parody is because it's unparadeable.
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What he's literally saying is you should vote for this guy because he's an appointing a
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Supreme Court justice who is in favor of killing all of us.
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How do you escalate that?
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Who will allow killing all of us if it means Trump having another term?
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Exactly.
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Yeah.
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Good argument.
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How do you escalate that?
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Sounds like a good guy.
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I don't know, but we'll certainly probably find out when we come back for another episode.
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