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Hey everybody, welcome back to knowledge fight. I'm Dan. I'm Jordan. We're a couple dudes,
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like to sit around, drink novelty beverages and talk a little bit about Alex Jones. Indeed we are
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Dan. Jordan. Dan. Jordan. What's your bright spot today? My bright spot is something that'll be a
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bright spot to for you to hear perhaps. All right. I've been dabbling around listening to some music
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that I haven't heard in a long time. Okay. So I was listening to some Annie Lennox. Love Annie
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Lennox. All right. All right. Big fan of Annie Lennox. Sure, sure. But then I just, I don't know
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why, but I listen, I started, I listened to the Dune soundtrack. It's good atmospheric music. I
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enjoy the soundtrack from the 1984 David Lynch film. Do they have any quotes in that one? Yeah,
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there's some, there's some talking. There's a little bit, not a ton, but a little bit.
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There's a little bit of dialogue. Now I am asking you this question. Sure. Do you know who did the
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soundtrack to Dune, the 1984 movie? Was it Trent Reznor? No, no. 1984? No, I'm fucking kidding. God
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damn it, man. One, no, I don't know who, I don't expect. Brian Wilson. It's a Brian. It's a Brian,
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Brian Davies. No, I don't know. Eno. Oh, it was Brian Eno. That's the one you'd expect. Yeah,
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yeah, yeah. But you know who else did it? Toto. The band Toto. Now see, that's, that's the David
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Lynch I'm looking for. If he's going to make Dune, Toto's going to do the soundtrack. The guys who
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brought you Rosanna and Hold the Line bring you the Dune soundtrack. What is closer to Africa than
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Dune? I think that's the only thing that makes sense. Yeah. Anyway, I listened to the Dune
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soundtrack and that was fun. Watch the movie Dune. It's good stuff. I don't have time. Sting,
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Sting's performance is legendarily quiet. I don't have time. Don't have time to read the book.
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Don't have time for the movie. Plenty of time for the soundtrack. Fair enough. Fair enough. Toto.
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What about you? I just did Truth Wanted with Daniel Earls. Add objectively Dan on Twitter.
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It was a great time. It was a fun call-in show. Yeah. We did a good, I think there's a podcast
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version of it. You can download it. It was great and a huge thank you to Dan for inviting me on.
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So for anybody who wants more Jordan, go check that out. And I do work exclusively with Dan.
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That's true. That's the only rule I have now is if you are a Dan, I will come on your show. You'll
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travel back in time and do some MTV remotes with Dan Cortez. That's my plan. Absolutely.
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Out of Dan's. Dan Rather. Sure. I'll do interviews with Dan Rather. Why not? Yeah. And now we are
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officially out of Dan's. There's no more Dan's. Nope. So Jordan, today we get an interesting
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episode to go over. We're doing a little look at the present day still. We got April 17th,
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2020. I'm Dan. This is 2020. And we'll get down to that in just one moment. But before we do,
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So Jordan, like I said April 17th. Sure. It's going down. It is it is going down
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What's going down? I don't know Alex is just some bullshit
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So the day before this on Thursday sure it came out that a bunch of infor's employees got kicked off Twitter
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Yes, and by a bunch I mean Rob do and Owen Troyer everybody but David Knight
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That's right Paul Joseph
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There's an actual very clear reason for who got kicked off and who didn't it's not about getting rid of
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Excising all info wars choice sure it has to do with the fact that the two of them Paul
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I'm sorry, Rob and Owen were actively promoting this protest against the quarantine
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The social distance. Yeah. Yeah, and it's not the fact that they actually did the protest
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It was that they were using Twitter to spread
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Yeah, yeah, and so they ended up getting kicked off and so I figured hey if that happened on the 16th the 17th
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Alex is probably gonna be in a pretty fucked up mood. You just had some tendrils chopped off
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Oh, yeah, little tentacles of getting his word out and so, you know
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It is about what you'd expect and then it's also not what you'd expect and then also it's pretty fucked up
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So let's jump in here's the first clip Alex is talking about
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You know, of course because these people who work for him were kicked off social media
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Obviously, there's gonna be some social media grievances on this episode horse. There have been draconian developments
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undreamed of just six months ago
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that
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Have unfolded Carrie could disagree with you Twitter Facebook and Google are now announcing that they're even going to block members of
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the Congress
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When they say that the coronavirus came out of the Wuhan lab
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They are openly
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Announcing that I've got all the articles right here
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So I have a strong suspicion that he's starting off this way so he can complain about Owen and Rob getting kicked off Twitter
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But he wouldn't you can couch it couch it in this language of universal censorship. Sure
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That's the way that he can get away with throwing a little titty baby tantrum while pretending that he's mad about something other than his
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Employees just losing their social media account and their ability to market on Twitter
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It's not cuz of Rob do and Owen Troyer. That would be petty Dan. I would be petty
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It's because they're they're censoring Congress people the people he respects
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I guess it's a couple Jordan. Yeah. Yeah, so Owen and Robert Barnes have both gone on record and said they have no idea
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Why Owens account was suspended, but it's super clear
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Like I said in the days prior to the suspension Owen had been promoting his you can't close America rally
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Which took place over this weekend?
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Sure
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according to reporting on media matters Twitter had announced on March 18th that they were not allowing quote tweets that could place people at
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Higher risk of transmitting kovat 19 and if you think about it for any time at all
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Oh, and it's using his account to promote a giant rally in the middle of an active pandemic is basically as clear an example
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That is you can come up with now will Twitter apply this logic to Trump?
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Probably not but even if their enforcement is less than ideal
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It's pretty indisputable that Owen was acting in ways that are directly counter to the rules that had been established by Twitter
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They took action and he was suspended
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The same is true most likely of dues account and like I said
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It's probably why David Knight Paul Joseph Watson's accounts are still up because they weren't explicitly engaging in behavior
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They would directly lead to people putting themselves and the community at risk
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Yeah
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I have no idea what Congress members Alex is talking about since I can't find any stories about this even on his
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completely unnavigatable website
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But I would assume that it's just a situation where they're subject to the rules of the platform as well as anybody else
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I have zero faith in Twitter's commitment to upholding these rules and considering the Trump literally tweeted out multiple
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Exhortations for various states with Democratic governors to be quote liberated
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It's pretty clear that the problem is far past the point where any social media company can even handle it now
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It's super clear what the message of those liberate tweets are but according to NBC News a spokesperson for Twitter said quote the use of
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Liberate in the tweets is too vague to be actionable
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when the president of the country is on social media saying a liberate Minnesota and liberate Michigan and quote liberate
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Virginia and save your great Second Amendment it's under siege if your rules consider those statements to be too vague to be actionable
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Then your rules are meaningless and really just sound more like a cop-out than anything else
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Of course kicking Trump off Twitter wouldn't be good either and would ultimately likely lead to a far more severe backlash
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Particularly in an election year
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There's essentially no good answer here and the people in a position to actually make a decision
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Like to say that there's no reason they would ever suspend Trump or to apply the rules to him
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Refuse to because of the fear of the outcome. Yeah, whatever Alex wants to complain about his own personal problems
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You know, whatever he does that he has a tendency to externalize them and exaggerate when he got his DUI
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one of his first responses was to put on his Jonathan Swift hat and
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Suggest that all restaurants should be closed because if you have one drink, you'll get a DUI and that everyone's just getting jammed up
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It was a massive societal issue that he was upset about not the fact that he drank and drove and spent the night in jail
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This is the same thing his employees got punished on social media and Alex knows that having the lead stories like that
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Like hey, my employees got kicked off Twitter. That sounds weak and petulant. So you reframe it as a story, you know
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Not about it's but it's not about your personal interests. It's about the world
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Yeah, that way you can portray yourself as a champion and not a weak loser. It's bigger than me
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I mean sure memory I'm talking about this because it personally affected me and if it hadn't personally affected me
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I wouldn't give a shit about that. But this is me. I'm the butt of the spear Dan. Yeah
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So this is this goes away out of control, you know, I mean like it starts with this this this
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externalizing and an exaggerating of his employees being suspended their account suspended, but this turns into like a
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massive narrative on this show about the
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The who is doing the the censoring who's robbed doing the censoring exactly
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They're running national news pieces in Europe the UK
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Australia and Canada
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Telling children do not trust your parents watch them carefully
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and
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Report them if they say China is behind the virus
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That's just good advice the fact-checking group that runs it is run out of Wuhan
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Sure
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That runs the science group for Facebook
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Works at the level for bio weapon lab and is number two in command
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So that's not true
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Do most bio weapon labs have like a social media division there?
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fact-checking
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Division, I mean sure that we need to really do a better job as best we can of pushing back
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Just on the framing and the language sure like I'm calling it a bio weapon lab
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We just put up with and just like whatever just move along. Yeah, honestly that in itself is terrible
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It's a really bad idea. Yeah. Yeah, so the leaving that aside is all bullshit
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The real story is that there's apparently someone who works for one of the groups that Facebook uses for fact-checking
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The this person's been goes by name, but dr. Danielle Anderson
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She's an assistant professor with many published articles on the field of virology and infectious diseases
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She's a professor at Duke and US Medical School
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Which is a collaboration between Duke and the National University of Singapore and it's a very legitimate and accredited school
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In her time in the field of virology. She's done some collaborative projects with the researchers at the Wuhan Institute of Virology
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And the right wing media is spinning this into the Wuhan lab running the fact-checking about the virus which just isn't accurate at all
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Wow, they are they are really scraping the bottle of the barrel without really going really not giving a fuck anymore
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OOP, so Anderson was an expert who was consulted by an organization called health feedback, which is not owned by Facebook
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It appears they're an independent non-political entity that fact-checks medical claims and then many of the outlets end up using their work as a source
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Because it's solidly produced. Yeah health feedback is one wing of a group called science feedback
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They also have like climate feedback, you know various science oriented
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Accuracy organization. Hey, we're scientists knock this shit off
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Their website includes a section that lists all their donors from $5 donations up to $5,000 plus and lists all the grants
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They've received as far as things like this go. I've rarely seen this level of transparency from anything else
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I've looked at. I'm assuming there's tons of
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You know Koch Brothers funding
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I imagine that Marc Moreno works for them from time to time like they really have a what now absent from that page
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There's also no Soros or Xi money to be found. That's odd in terms of this relationship with Facebook
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That's where things get a little bit complicated in
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April 2019 science feedback was approved as one of the entities that helps with Facebook's fact-checking
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But it wasn't approved by Facebook
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Facebook has a pre-existing relationship with a group called pointers International fact-checking Network
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Pointer is the group that approves the fact-checking entities which then help fact-check stuff on Facebook
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If I had to guess I would say this arrangement exists
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So Facebook can duck as much responsibility as possible for what happens on its platform
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Which is kind of lame 100% so the reality is that there was an expert in
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Virology and infectious disease who teaches at a university in Singapore who has worked at the Wuhan lab in the past
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She was consulted by health feedback for a fact check on some claims that were made about the lab at Wuhan
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This story is now being changed by Alex into a situation where the fact-checking is being run out of the Wuhan lab
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Which you can easily see is a complete lie. Oh
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Man, if dr. Anderson were trying to obscure or hide her association with the lab in Wuhan
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Then you could probably make a pretty decent argument for some kind of conflict of interest
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Maybe and it might come off as a bit unethical to use her as a reference
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But as it stands she's completely open about her working at that lab periodically
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On some projects in the very article when she's consulted as an expert which kind of gives
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More credence to her like that's why you would go to her because she's actually fucking been there or
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Relationship I don't know if that's why you would go. I mean, it's part of her feedback. Yeah
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Yeah, absolutely. She brings it up herself personal experience. Yeah. Yeah, there's no indication that she runs it right any of that stuff
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It's just choose someone who was consulted by these people for a fact check and that's how you that's how you know
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It's true. This will take over as Alex's number one narrative. What are we doing on this?
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What are we doing?
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but there's some things that he gets lost along the way gets a little little sidetracked on because you see
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1984 for these guys is a
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owner's manual
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It's an operations plan
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That's why Hillary Clinton said famously in the mid 90s when she was co-president. She said my favorite books in 1984. I
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I
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See it as a manual people said what does she mean by that? Well, she's called hiking her skirt
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Urinating directly into your face for how much
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Yeah, let's put that article back up on screen for folks so before I get to the point here
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I should say that what you just heard there was Alex making a real big show out of drinking from a paper cup and swirling
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The ice around gotcha, which is not exactly what I would call in character for him
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I've seen him take swigs out of things from like his coffee mug and sometimes he'll have a bottle of like Topo Chico on hand
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But this is very showy
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It's almost taunting and it worries me a little bit boy. No idea if that's booze
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I have no idea but if it is we're three minutes into the episode at this point that would spell trouble
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Yeah, that's called the beginning of the workday and it's when you take your first drink down. Everybody knows that I'm not convinced
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Necessarily from the way this episode goes that he was drinking. I'm not I'm not sure it's possible
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But I'm not I'm not I'm not sold a hundred percent on it
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He does get real weird by the end of the episode
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But it's not like it's not definitive in the same way that so many of these other sure
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So as to that clip first of all Hillary was not co-president. That's just nonsense
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Second Alex isn't talking about comments Hillary made back in the 90s and she didn't say 1984 was a how-to manual
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That's just a stupid headline that fringe conservative blogs ran with when discussing an excerpt from her 2017 book titled
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What happened in the book? She writes quote attempting to define reality as a core feature of authoritarianism
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This is what the Soviets did when they erased political dissidents from historical photos
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This is what happens in George Orwell's classic novel in 1984 when a torturer holds up four fingers and delivers electric shocks until his prisoner
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Sees five fingers as ordered
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The goal is to make you question logic and reason and to so mistrust towards exactly the people we need to rely on our leaders
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The press experts who seek to guide public policy based on evidence ourselves
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For Trump as as with so much he does it's about simple dominance
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Alex is making up a hillary quote and here's the fun part. I know exactly where it comes from
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There was an article in 2017 about this passage from Hillary's book on the website
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Conservative review and the headline is quote Hillary Clinton thinks Orwell's 1984 is a how-to manual. I
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Really don't get where they saw that in the quote. No, it's not it's not in that quote
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And that's where Alex got the idea from sure in the article
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If you actually read it, it doesn't include any quotes for saying that it's just the insinuation of the author of this blog post
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His gripe is that he feels that Hillary got the wrong message from
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1984 and that her point was to encourage blind trust in the government and media
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I think that's a little bit of an unfair reading from the text particularly considering the last thing in her list of people
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We need to rely on our ourselves, but whatever
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I'm not gonna spend my time discussing this article in any way past saying that this headline is
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Absolutely where Alex is taking his imaginary Hillary quote from he is neither
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Not read this article at all or he's willfully lying about it. One of the two, you know
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What's what what is interesting is that in a sense? I agree with the sentence 1984 is a how-to manual
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I just think Trump is using it
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Not the other guys sure. I think
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1984 is a how-to manual could be in some context of value neutral
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Yeah, yeah, and the same way is like looking historically saying George Washington was a terrorist
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Sure, like that is not to say that George Washington was a evil terrorist, right or whatever, you know, right, right, right
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I'm not I don't want to I don't want to unpack that right now. Let's just go with Jedi
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Sure, I aren't the bad terrorists in this one
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There are ways that you can say something like 1984 is a how-to manual without
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Endorsing that sure. Sure. Sure. Sure. So that is that's all fine. That's all good. Well, even if Hillary had said
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Which she didn't it's just a fucking conservative review blog post headline our conservatives allowed to review books
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Don't they have to not read them in order to maintain their their strength, isn't it?
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Isn't it like Sampson like if they read a book then they lose their power. They can only read Ayn Rand
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Yeah, yeah, and if you're weird
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Yeah
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Yeah, so Alex believes that
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The AP has reported that the virus came from the Wuhan lab that which they and
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that Danielle Anderson
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Working from the Wuhan lab right is banning stories from the AP that demonstrate
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It's it's a whole mess, but that's how Alex gets around
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Forming this narrative. Yeah, the Associated Press reported two days ago
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Knew the virus came from the Wuhan lab
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Knew it was weaponized
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Knew it was spreading and they covered it up and then told Trump don't block flights from China. You're a xenophobe
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That's the Associated Press
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But Facebook has announced AP
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will not be allowed to be shared on its platform and
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Anyone sharing the article will be banned
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I'm going to show you those articles here in a moment. He doesn't again
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This is just Alex misreporting the same AP story that
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Suggested that the Chinese government knew that the virus was more serious as a situation than they admitted publicly for six days
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Between January 14th and January 20th the rest of the stuff relating to the Wuhan lab is just stuff
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Alex read in a Fox News headline and he's trying to disguise it as an AP story because even he knows that AP stories are
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Far more credible than Fox News posts citing anonymous sources that are full of caveats. Like none of this is certain
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Absolutely, Alex wants the audience to think that the mainstream media is reporting on the same stuff
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He's covering because he knows that even among it the most strident conspiracy theorists
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There's a recognition that real journalists do different work than people like Alex if Alex says something
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Maybe you'll believe it. But if the AP reports something then, you know, they can back it up
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This is the fascinating dichotomy in the paranoid conspiracy world
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They hate the mainstream media and yet constantly appeal to it to give themselves credibility when they think they can
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Alex further wants the audience to think that this totally legit outlet is reporting this news and
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Censorship has gotten so out of control that if you even post this AP story, you'll get banned
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This is the primary function of rewriting his own bands from social media platforms because saying that they only
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You know, they only kicked him off because they knew he was right about all this stuff
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And even now the AP is saying it, you know that that kind of thing. None of this is real
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It's all just the ramblings of a liar circling the drain desperately flailing for anything to grab on to in hopes of saving the ship
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It ain't gonna work. Yeah media outlets that rely entirely upon expediency are not good. No, no, no
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But you know, it's really funny like all this stuff is such a bullshit. It's all
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Yeah, tremendous trash bananas, but Alex is so cocky about it. That's the kind of thing
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I really love like he really like is acting like he's got his chest puffed out
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Nailed it. Damn it. These people who runs Facebook's science division runs it and
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Decides what you can say about zinc vitamin D
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Hydroxychloroquine who says on Facebook that the president's a liar and there's no hope only Bill Gates can save you
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Real cocky. Name two scientists at the Wuhan lab. I don't know. How would you know if she's one of the top
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What would you want the top ones? I would need I would need further information on that
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I it looks like I forgot to cut out this clip
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but Alex is also claiming one of his other big pieces of evidence is that the co-discoverer of HIV has come out and said that
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The Alex is using headlines to say that he's saying this was definitely
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100% made in the lab sure and that's not like super accurate even close to well, no, I mean it's kind of true
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It's about a guy named Luca montage
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Montagny who is the co-discoverer of HIV and he won a Nobel Prize in 2008
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He came out when an interview and basically said that if there were HIV pieces inserted into the RNA of the virus
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Then that would that would not have evolved naturally and it would require lab engineering. Sure. This is all good and well
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But as far as I can tell no one is in any way
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Demonstrated that there are HIV pieces that have been inserted into the corona virus, right?
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The only reference people can make on that is that on peer-reviewed and retracted Indian study
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Which was shown to be seriously flawed a follow-up paper published in February 2020 in the journal emerging microbes and infections
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Looked at these inserts that were said to be HIV and found quote our results demonstrated no evidence that the sequences of these four
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inserts are HIV one specific or the nor the
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2019 novel coronavirus
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Viruses obtained these insertions from HIV one
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first the results of the blast search of these motifs against GenBank shows the top 100 identical or highly
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Homologous hits are all from host genes of mammalian insects bacterial and others
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They found that these four inserts that are said in the Indian study to be HIV related have a ton of other non HIV sources
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Further they found these insertions are also present in multiple other corona viruses
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So the conclusions reached by that Indian paper were definitely hasty at least
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So basically what you have there is dr
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montage a making an if-then statement if the virus has HIV sewn into it
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Then it must have been done in a lab that statement is probably fine
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But I dispute the if portion of it in logic when you have an if-then statement and the premise is false
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You can completely ignore the conclusion
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It legitimately doesn't matter what the conclusion is right because there's no truth to preserve through the process of inference, right?
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Also, this dude is theorizing that the lab in Wuhan was working on an HIV vaccine and this leaked out
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Which is not really in line with Alex's bio weapon narratives
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But whatever Alex will run with whatever he came to give the appearance of credibility to this dumb shit
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Also, I don't think that Alex should be able to use these guys like this guy who co-discovered HIV is some kind of by-proxy
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Expert seeing as he doesn't believe HIV is real nor does he believe it's connected to AIDS
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So he kind of has to believe that Luke montage a has to be in on the conspiracy, right? Yeah, of course
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I mean and that's how you know, he's telling the truth because he's lying to you can't have it both ways
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But Alex really wants to you can't trust this guy and John Rappaport. You just can't Dan
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You can't have it both ways. I can't have it both ways. The right-wing exists outside of both ways
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They have it all ways. All they do is hold us hostage with their lies. That's it. Yeah, it's all a bunch of nonsense
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Yeah, wait, sorry. I forgot to cut that clip, but I feel like it's important to point that out a little bit
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So not only is this person who heads up the Wuhan lab fact-checking Facebook
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Dr. Anderson, man
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Facebook has really I
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got to say
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their staff
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Might be a problem. Okay, the things that Alex is saying, okay
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They're the East German police that were worse than the KGB and NKVD
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Yeah, they've hired over 10,000 of them to what Facebook what we first reported six years ago
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So
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That's why
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There's a bunch of 80-year-old dudes
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10,000 80-year-old dudes working for Facebook they run it
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So just to be clear most of the people who'd be the right age to have been in the Stasi are dead or are pretty old
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I would imagine you'd be hard-pressed to find 10,000 Stasi members still alive today
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Let alone 10,000 of them who are in the kind of shape. You need to be in to run a modern tech company
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Leaving aside how insanely stupid
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I don't understand this keyboard. What is this doing?
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It's out of here!
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Leaving aside how stupid that is. It's based on what you might call a kernel of something real in
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2015 the Justice Ministry in Germany established a task force to look into online hate speech
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Particularly directed towards immigrants the goal was to get a sense of the scale of the problem
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Which they would then use to encourage Facebook and Twitter to take the matter seriously
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one of the groups that was included in this NGO in this was an NGO called the
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Amadu Antonio Foundation named in memory of an Angolan immigrant killed by neo-nazis briefly after the reunification of Germany
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The group's chairwoman is Aneta Kahane who is a when she was a college student for a time
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She was an unofficial informant for the Stasi
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I can't really defend that except to say that I see no indication that she's been dishonest about that part of her past and since
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Around 1982 when she stopped being an informant her career of advocacy kind of speaks for itself in
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September 2015 Paul Joseph Watson wrote a really misleading article about this task force
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Tending to imply that is a body within Facebook as opposed to a German entity studying the issue and aiming to advise Facebook
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I'll give Paul credit that in the body of his article. He does say that Kahane was a informant
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But I'm gonna take that credit right back because of the headline quote ex Stasi agent hired to censor xenophobic Facebook post
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That does take away from the informants recognition
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She was
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Personally hired by yeah. Yeah. Anyway, this is where Alex's Facebook is hiring the Stasi narrative comes from
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It was one person who doesn't work for Facebook, which has now been exaggerated into Facebook being run by 10,000 Stasi members
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They fired this guy's an amazing liar and you have to be pretty fucking dumb to buy things like this city says I I can't
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imagine
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Look if you said like for former Stasi agents, maybe maybe I'd be like
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I mean you you don't have to be up with the modern technology
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You could direct things you could people could bring you stuff and then you have them send your emails for you
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But 10,000 Stasi agents is like too much get the fuck out of here. Yeah, you're pathetic
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Anyway, this is all really just probably an issue for Alex because Kahane's advocacy is surrounding the rising right-wing
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Extremism and their agitation towards immigrant communities and you know who makes money off that. Yeah, I do know Alex
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Oh, no, it's Alex. Oh my god. Oh, no, why would he choose her as an enemy?
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Mmm-hmm. So anyway, 10,000 Stasi deep at Facebook
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Great, give me five names. Give me five stars. Give you what? I don't know
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But it's not just these 10,000 Stasi agents on Facebook
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By the way, I remember seeing that Marcus wolf the former head of the Stasi was hired by the Democrats
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There's a consultant to Homeland Security. He was the head of it. I remember hearing I didn't believe it
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It turned out was true. Whoa, it was true. I
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Can legitimately find no articles on this that don't trace back to infowars or prison plan. Sure. Sure. Sure
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That's probably it's true because the story is not you know, it's true. It's so true
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It's too true for the rest of the world even Dan according to a 2004 story
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That's now mysteriously gone from their websites though
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It's still on the wayback machine Paul Joseph Watson wrote about how a political analyst named Al Martin
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It alleged that Homeland Security had hired Marcus wolf. There's no substantiation of this claim in the article outside of this
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Oh, oh and this line quote sources close to Martin have told Alex Jones
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Confidentially that the appointment of wolf was also confirmed by US congressman. Sure. Sure. Sure
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How many how many different levels of not talking to anybody is that that's a tell?
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Yeah for me that this is a bullshit. Yeah. Also Marcus wolf wasn't the head of the Stasi
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He was the head of the main directorate for reconnaissance the foreign intelligence wing of the Stasi in
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2004 when this would have happened
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He was 81 years old and I can find absolutely zero concrete evidence that he was employed by US national security
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I mean you could say that right
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I tried to figure out who Al Martin is since he's the only real source that this trace is back to and suffice it
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To say I was not surprised by what I found Steve Martin's brother. Nope
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Oh, he has a long dormant website called Al Martin raw where he would write blog posts
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But what interested me the most was that he wrote a book called quote shocking secrets of Iran Contra
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Al Martin is yet another guy who's claimed he was in on Iran Contra
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I was just thinking I was like do you look if you want to talk about that guy
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Do you know who you guys hired to run the NRA? What are you people talking about?
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And of course this guy's also involved in Iran Contra
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A good 80% of these ambitious right-wing types claim they were mixed up in Iran Contra
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Which kind of strains my ability to believe most of them to Martin's credit, though
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He calls himself a quote fourth level player in the the affair, whatever the fuck that means
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I like a little modesty. Yeah, at least he's not like I ran it. Yeah. Yeah, like Larry Nichols is like I was hanging out with
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Anyway, I don't believe any of this until they could provide a little better evidence than this week shit
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Also, just a small point
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Even if all of that is true this happened in 2004 when there was not a Democratic
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Administration in charge of Homeland Security and both houses of Congress were controlled by the Republican Party
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I've literally zero idea how the Democrats could have hired the head of the Stasi to be involved in Homeland Security in a period of
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Complete GOP control of all the parts of the federal government, but I guess that's why Alex makes the big bucks
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He can imagine that didn't you realize how much the Democrats snuck through from the entirely GOP controlled world?
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Whatever get away with that that might be the only thing they could sneak through with the right-wing running things in 2004
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Just like oh you guys want to hire an ex-tasi agent for us to work with hell. Yes. Yeah
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Yeah, so Alex in his next clip. He's he's talking about how he's gonna really get down to business
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He's gonna really get down to it
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And as far as I can tell from listening to the rest of this episode
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The only thing he has to get down to is more yelling about the Facebook sensor sure fact checker person
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Story seems to be the only thing he has to get down to but he's good. He's gonna get down to business
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All right, let's get into it right now
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I'm totally ready to lay it all out
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I'm ready to lay it out to the president
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I'm ready to lay it out to the American people to the people of the planet to the Pentagon everybody about the choices we all
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Have to make right now and I know it's time for you
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All of you watching and listening to lay it out as well to your husband your wife your neighbors your church
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to the person that screams at you at a gas station because you're not wearing a stupid mask when
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Most of the counties in the United States don't have one damn case of this weaponized cold
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I'm gonna lay it out next segment. Okay. All right, so I am
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Anxiously awaiting him laying this all out. Mm-hmm. He's got ten pages of all this stuff prepared notes
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Yeah, he's been working on this for years. I'm ready for him to lay it within 30 seconds
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There's like I'm so fucking ready to do this. I'll do it later
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Okay, also, by the way, the you getting yelled at for not wearing a stupid fucking mask you sell masks Alex. Pick a lane
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You gotta choose one. You can't be doing both. It's really embarrassing
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so anyway
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Alex complains about the the Wuhan how the lab right? They're running the Facebook fact checkers, of course and
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starts to worry about like
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Why doesn't Trump do something about this? I mean one because it's not true. Yeah, but still why the Wuhan?
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Bioweapon lab and the Chinese
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Operatives running Facebook and blocking the Pentagon and the president and AP saying it came from Wuhan, which is confirmed
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And I just sat back and
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Asked myself is the president in an incremental trance
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Not
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Resisting this or is he part of it? I'm listening. I know Trump's not part of it
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Do you so he's in an incremental trace?
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Well, you know what? I think you can handle the truth
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So yeah is conclusion is that Trump thinks that you can't handle the truth that could be
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I see we go back to him being poisoned with his diet coke. Sure. Well, I liked that. That was fun
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that was fun also like I just don't get why you want to continue supporting a
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Leader who you have to question if they're in a trance or evil
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Like that doesn't seem like the sort of person you want to get behind. Yeah. Yeah, it seems odd that
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It's it's a constant possible for us to find a candidate from either party that couldn't have that question asked about
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It's a constant thing for Alex
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he seems almost never sure like he's simultaneously always sure that Trump is the greatest and then also like
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I might be gonna might be gonna kill us. Okay, so he's my guy
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I want him to be an authoritarian leader
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But at the same time he's not doing anything that I want him to do which is why he's my guy
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So how is it that I can continue to support him if he doesn't do anything
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I want him to do especially if I'm giving him all of this power. Yeah, I have a plan don't care
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uh-huh, I'll just yell yeah, so Alex gets into some like sort of virus conspiracies here and
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He's really leaning towards like calling everything a scam and a fraud. Sure. It's all a giant fraud
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80,000 people died of the flu in 2018 not true
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They're not counting anybody knew in the last two months the start of the flu they always say COVID
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It's a hoax folks. So he's just making things up there
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If you go to the CDC's website
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You can find plenty of information about the 2019-2020 flu season and there were plenty of influenza
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Related deaths that have happened that have not been double counted as coronavirus deaths
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There's a little truth to what Alex is saying though
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It is true that as of April 4th, the CDC's website will not be posting updated flu season burden estimates
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But that isn't because there's some kind of a cover-up
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It's because flu season is mostly over and any updates would be kind of irrelevant
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States are continuing to collect their data
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Which will be used to update and revise the CDC's numbers after the fact
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But given the flu season has crested the CDC's role in this has ended for now
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almost certainly Alex just saw a headline that the CDC was gonna stop releasing revised estimates about the flu season sometime after this April 4th
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Data came out and he's just completely unaware of what he's talking about or willfully lying about it
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If you want to find out information about the flu season, all you have to do is look for it
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It's pretty available, but Alex isn't interested in information
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He wants to pretend that the coronavirus deaths are all secretly just flu deaths being passed off as something else that the globalists can grab power
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He should recognize that he if he's wrong about what he's saying
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Which he is he stands to be personally responsible for the deaths of people who look up to him as a voice of guidance
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I really hope that he's ready and prepared to handle that kind of spiritual weight because that is
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Going to be devastating if he ever has to look in the mirror about that. It would be devastating to
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Non psychopaths, but I just don't think they care man. I just don't think they have it
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You better be ready for that to be a lifelong commitment to psychopaths
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Well, I'm just like that's how you become the president you ever have a moment of clarity and it will destroy you. Yeah
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Yeah, yeah. Well, I mean that that you know, if if it were possible for somebody like Trump
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We wouldn't be where we are. But Trump could watch people die in front of him and not give a shit
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I don't know if Alex is that purely so you might not be he might be too though. I don't know possible
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I don't know. Yeah, they walk among us. They are daywalkers Dan
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So Alex gets to complaining about Bill Gates in this next clip. Apparently Bill Gates wants to rule the world
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Sure, did you know that why not Hitler was put in power?
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By the British and US intelligence. Sure. Why not? So
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I'm sitting here knowing who the players are in horror
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Saying Bill Gates is gonna take over he'll be the president of the world. He'll have forced inoculations
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You'll have a digital tattoo to travel because he's been saying it and getting it ready for decades
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So Alex is presenting that Bill Gates wants to take over the world
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Now, what is this next clip? This is part two
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The Pentagon loves Alex the president has to understand this and we've chronicled every move of how they'd operate and what they're gonna do next
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and I
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Can tell you that and I'm not bragging about this
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Sounds like you are Pentagon and intelligence agencies in the White House at this point are in awe of in full wars
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How we continue to be way ahead
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In awe. It's because Mr. President, we're not naive
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So you got this is the part one and part two part one Bill Gates gonna try and take over the world part two
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The White House the Pentagon they're in awe of Alex. Yeah, so that's interesting man
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You know you put those all together Alex is in the middle of this weird rant about how evil
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Vaccines are and how Bill Gates is gonna take over the world with nefarious vaccines. Of course. It's all standard info wars bullshit
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However, this rises to amazing comedy when you talk about the being in awe of Alex
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The White House is in awe and that's because Trump said this in his coronavirus briefing on April 17th the same
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Damn day as this episode
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Yesterday the FDA announced a new collaboration with United Health Group the Gates Foundation
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Quantigen and u.s. Cotton to greatly expand the supply of essential swabs including a new polyester
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q-tip type swab
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For the coronavirus testing all of these actions will help our testing capability continue to grow dramatically
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Oh, what's that Trump announcing a collaboration between the FDA and the Gates Foundation to help increase our taste testing capability
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Keep your enemies closer Dan
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Doesn't sound like something a guy who thinks Bill Gates is an evil demon set out to take over the world would do
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No, no, maybe he's not in awe of Alex's dumb bullshit. Maybe he is maybe personally here in many ways
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I am also in awe of Alex's dumb bullshit just because it really does seem to never stop
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It just doesn't seem to stop. It's a it's old faithful. You make a good point in awe could be another
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Could mean a couple different things
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So at this point Alex
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takes on another theme that he has throughout this show that is like he's getting real close to just
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Straight-up advocating literal war. Yeah, of course if what I'm saying is true. We have to go to war
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all these people at the local level the international level the national level and
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It's a horrible thing, but we're at war and they're attacking us cutting our economies off. They launched the damn attack
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They've been caught doing it. The communist Chinese are now publicly running the censorship in the u.s. But suddenly all over the news
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And
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Everybody's kind of like well, we're all
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Invested in each other and well, they're everywhere and the Chinese spies are everywhere and the big foundations fund them
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And can we beat it and anybody sticks their heads up gets attacked?
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They're expecting you to not see what this really is and deal with it
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But only by full commitment and recognizing it and being honest can we president comes out announces this America already senses it
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The world already knows we will destroy these people in hours. We can annihilate them now
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It's us or them so we're getting much closer to Alex
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Directly saying we've got to have a world war. Yeah, basically. Yeah, but it's also a local war too
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It's a civil war and world war simultaneously, which boy that sucks
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You know what if I were reading 1984 as a how-to manual
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I would suggest
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Convincing everybody in a certain group that they are constantly and eternally at war with everybody in another group, right?
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That's what I would say if I were reading 1984 as a how-to manual. That's interesting. Yeah, it sounds like Hillary
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Yeah
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It does sound like Hillary doesn't it so Alex goes out to break with this talk of like if Trump comes out and says the
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Truth that I know like if I'm right about this stuff, then we're at war. Yes
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Like okay, man, you shouldn't be talking like this. Like this is this is so irresponsible. Yeah
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Yeah, so he goes to break and he comes back and man
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He is just rambling about how like I will be destroyed
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But my destruction will be the true destruction of my enemies sure and this goes about exactly how you'd expect
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People ask me why I live in Austin. That's basically a
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A toilet for California where my family's from
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Since it was Mexico, so your family's shit, but don't worry
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I won't be here much longer in this city
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Everything dies everything fails
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Is
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That things should be reborn and we have planted a lot of seeds haven't we my friends
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That's the good guy it's done so the seeds
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Of its destruction I can feel God's Spirit
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Thousand times stronger than I've ever felt
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The enemy will push the boulder to the peak of the hill
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As world government
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Stands for a year it will collapse down on the enemy and those of us that stand against it through this
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Tribulation will be spiritually like Samson in the temple
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Though blinded and tortured the dignity in the end of breaking in and knocking it down. He misses that music
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Yeah, that was really helping him out. Think about it
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Think about it
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These are the times the trimen souls, let me do this and I've been doing this get the fuck out of here
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I'm like, I I can't continue at this point. So sort of teasing that I can't do the show anymore. Ah
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He really exhausted himself with that ramble over the the the sort of overly
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symphonic music I
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I don't have the backing music anymore. I don't know. I'm not trying to be dramatic. I can't do the show anymore
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All right, man, whatever. I don't think a lot of movies have the the good guy give a speech over fucking got her dammer rung or whatever my destruction will be their destruction. I can feel it. That's the guy I want to root for. I just love the the swing there within like the span of a minute like this. Ah, I can feel the power and all that. Like I got it. I got it. I got to take a break. I haven't done that.
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I haven't done this for a while. I'm going to have to let you guys go for a little bit. I had to break. So Alex praise for focus. Sure that I will do my best because I keep trying and I think I've laid out a lot of stuff so far, but not like I wanted to. He has at six after I just pray to God to give me the focus and the clarity to hit it with just the facts and just lay out the big dimensions of this without going into little minutia. Like I like to do to prove each little factoid, but it is untenable and outrageous and unexplainable.
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To have the communist Chinese officially given the run of the big five tech companies to censor people all over the world and to ban anyone off their platforms that says they're going to go out and protest to reopen America. I would at this point, if I were there, I like name the five. Yeah. Name them. Yep. Easy. Easy. Just put a name down. Just right. Just close your eyes.
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And say, and name the five big companies. It'd be like Facebook, Twitter, Google shit. Yeah. Uh, uh, is my space still a thing? No. Uh, how's IBM doing AOL still going? Well, uh, shit. Yeah. So anyway, Alex tries to prove in this next clip, the Chinese censorship thing, and we'll see that it is just this same story about Dr. Danielle Anderson.
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It's in the news confirmed that you've heard, Oh, Twitter and Facebook, let armies of Chinese trolls put out this info. But then when you read deeper, whether it's Google, whether it's Twitter, whether it's Facebook, whether it's Apple, they have over the divisions, the Southern poverty law center, the ADL media matters, Snopes.
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But now they're giving way to the communist Chinese party and are actually in there heading up the divisions with armies of Chinese and AI watch.
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I would paraphrase that difference. This is public news. Look at this headline. Facebook fact checker worked at Wuhan bio lab, ruled out virus leak while debunking articles. And she's the head of Facebook science.
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You know, they have their media, their culture, their sports there. Well, she's over all science news on a platform with how many members is Facebook have only 3.4 billion checks.
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So I want to clarify something in case it's not clear already. Dr. Anderson, the person who's done some work at the Wuhan Institute of virology is not employed by Facebook.
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Dr. Anderson is not in charge of Facebook science, whatever Alex imagines that is. As for the people who are trying to say that her work at the Wuhan lab is somehow a conflict of interest.
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Again, I have to stress that in her comments about the assertion that this virus originated at that lab, she brings up the fact that she worked there.
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She's very, very transparent about it saying, quote, I have worked in this exact laboratory at various times over the past two years.
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I can personally attest to the strict control and containment measures implemented while working there. The staff at WIV are incredibly competent, hardworking, and excellent scientists with superb track records.
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This doesn't work well for Alex's narrative because he needs this to be an instance of China being in charge of this internet censorship, not just an instance of someone who had done some work at the Wuhan lab being consulted in an effort to assess the accuracy of an editorial column in the New York Post.
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And why does Alex desperately need that right now? It should be pretty obvious. Owen and Rob New just got kicked off Twitter, and he can't possibly accept that it was the result of them trying to start a mass rally in the middle of a pandemic.
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It has to be because China is secretly in charge of social media censoring. It's all just very lame and desperate.
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Also, there are about 2.5 billion Facebook users. Alex is off by about a billion, but who gives a shit?
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Yeah, that doesn't swing me either way. 2.5 billion is still too many.
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Yeah, it's a lot.
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Yeah, it's a lot. So anyway, this story just keeps going.
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How? That's all he's got?
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Yeah, it's all he's got.
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I'll show you some of the articles right here I've got.
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Facebook fact checker worked at Wuhan biolab, ruled out virus leak while debunking articles.
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And then you read the article at Infowars.com by Steve Watson, it turns out she runs Facebook science.
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And she just so happens works in the bio weapons lab. What do you think the chance? Oh, and it gets Bill Gates grants. It's just always the same group. It's a very small group.
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So this is very, very clearly Alex's number one story. He's hitting this thing so fucking hard, I'm getting annoyed by it.
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However, in this clip, he claims that there's an Infowars article that somehow proves that Dr. Anderson is in charge of Facebook science. So off I go to look that dumb article up.
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Bummer.
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There are actually two articles up on Infowars about this story. One is just a reposting of a story about it on Zero Hedge and the other is by Steve Watson, who I sincerely thought had quit or died.
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Yeah, I did too.
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I haven't heard that name in quite a while and I'm very sad to see him still doing this bullshit work. Thought he'd grown up.
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Maybe he got fired from his real estate job or something like that.
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I could be. All this information in Steve's article about Danielle Anderson is just ripped directly from the Zero Hedge article, so it's barely even a new blog post.
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Neither article in any way demonstrates that Dr. Anderson is in charge of Facebook science fact checking. That's just completely made up, even if you accept everything in these dubious sources.
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I think that what must be happening is that Alex doesn't realize that science feedback is the name of a separate business.
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Yeah.
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He just thinks it's a department of feedback related to science within Facebook.
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Yes, exactly.
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That would explain at least part of the confusion. But even that doesn't explain the assertion that Dr. Anderson runs Science Feedback.
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That's just not true, and his article on Infowars even includes a link to Science Feedback's website, which lists their team, which doesn't include Dr. Anderson.
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This article doesn't show any of this stuff, nor does it show Gates' funding. None of it's supported by the evidence that he's providing at all.
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For Alex to present this kind of information, he has to either be consciously making things up, or he has to do so little work that he just sees the words like Science Feedback and assumes that he knows the whole story.
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Either way, this is a scary level of unpreparedness he's showing as it relates to his clear lead story.
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Like, this is his lead story!
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Yeah. I could also see him just reading it and saying Science Feedback and then just transposing it and saying Science Facebook. Yeah, that works. That's fine.
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Sure.
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And it's always about the same people, Alex, because you always make it about the same people. Yeah.
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You're just fitting the same people into completely different things and saying, like, see, look, this makes sense. Yeah.
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Of course you can make it always about the same people. Yeah, if you just make stuff up. Yeah, exactly. It's super easy.
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So, Alex gets to this next slope, and he seems to be hinting at some trouble.
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There's a lot of things going on behind the scenes, and a lot of things I can't tell you about right now. But let's just say this.
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The enemy knows, and that's why they want us off the air. But everybody knows that I'm unfiltered and just tell you what's going on.
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And all this is public, too, but we told you before it came out. So can you imagine what the Pentagon and the White House think about Infowars right now?
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That's why we could be tagging off the air at any time, because they don't want this source of information to the president.
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But it's okay. You know how things work. And no matter what happens to me, you're going to continue on.
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We know who did the biotech. We know it was the deep state with the Chicoms against America to kill the economy.
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So Alex is deeply insinuating there are things going on behind the scenes, and he might be off the air any time now.
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So about that. It came to my attention, thanks to a listener named Rashan over the weekend, that Alex has a gigantic legal battle going on that we've not heard about at all.
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When he was out of studio over the past couple days, it seemed like it might have had something to do with the FDA or possibly his DUI.
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But now that I've reviewed some court documents from PACER, I really think that there might be a completely different hidden picture going on here.
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Back on January 24th, 2020, Alex's ex-wife Kelly filed a petition in bankruptcy court. She was making a claim of involuntary bankruptcy and requesting relief under Chapter 11.
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A claim of involuntary bankruptcy is one where a party who has owed money can file a petition to get that money they're owed, and if the party that owes the money can't pay it, they can be forced into bankruptcy involuntarily to pay the debt.
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According to court filings, when they got divorced in 2015, Alex testified that he could not afford to pay the money that she was awarded in the divorce.
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So he signed a real estate lien, which promised Kelly a certain amount of money related to their shared property, as well as 10% of the value of, quote, the businesses created during the Joneses' marriage in the state of Texas.
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I'll just read to you here from the filing that Kelly put into court. Quote, the note requires Alex Jones to make monthly payments to Kelly Jones in the amount of $43,933.
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Monthly? Motherfuck!
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Yeah. When Alex Jones defaults in any way, the note may be accelerated by Kelly Jones. It goes on to say that on June 28, 2019, Alex stated that, quote, he would not pay the entirety of the July 2019 note payment and that he would not pay part of the August 2019 note payment.
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I can't possibly claim to know whether or not Kelly's claims are accurate, but she is alleging, in this filing, that Alex defaulted on paying her for a promissory note in the amount of $786,861.
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Ooh, I gotta marry somebody I hate who's rich. That's what I gotta do. That's what I need to do.
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For some context, that's approximately 32,786 bottles of Alex's Vasobees. That's a lot of sales to make that up.
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So Alex naturally tried to get this case dismissed, and a hearing was scheduled for March 11th.
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Interestingly, March 11th was one of those days that Alex happened not to be in studio last month.
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He hosted the first little bit of the show, then Owen took over. When we covered that, the feeling was that he had just gotten a letter from the New York Attorney General about his silver sales, and he'd just gotten DUI, so it looked like what was going on was that he had these desperate sales pitches going on,
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but maybe what was really going on was that his ex-wife was suing him for three-quarters of a million dollars.
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Have you seen Uncut Gems? No. It's Adam Sandler's most recent movie.
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I'm aware of it. I haven't seen it. Yeah, and I watched it, and it's just one nonstop guy going from creditor to creditor trying to handle all this money and move it around so he can finally pay everybody off,
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but with his gambling addiction, he's trying to gamble his way back into more money the whole time, and it's just a constant nonstop.
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It's so stressful to watch this movie because you're like, just pay a bill and stop.
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I got really stressed out, maybe not the same level, but looking at this stuff is really like, oh, God.
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Adding all of this, plus the FDA, plus the AG, plus his current Sandy Hook lawsuit, plus all of the other shit, it's like this dude is racing around from one nightmare to another.
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Yeah, but this one might be the big one. Yeah.
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So Alex left the show in Owen's hands on March 11th, and then they had this hearing, but prior to that, on the night of March 9th, Alex got arrested for his DUI,
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and the next day, Kelly filed an emergency restraining order on the grounds of child endangerment to get their children out of a clearly chaotic environment.
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On March 11th, Kelly filed an emergency motion for clarification of the law.
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You see, she's representing herself, so she was requesting the court inform her if there was a conflict between the pending involuntary bankruptcy case and this emergency protective restraining order.
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She was worried that the bankruptcy case would preclude her from being able to file the restraining order, and in this motion for clarification,
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she makes it very clear that if it would, she would automatically dismiss the bankruptcy case.
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A document like that is a real testament to her priorities, and in this horrible world of Alex that we spend our time in,
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I couldn't help but be a little bit moved by the fact that she was willing to completely dismiss this case if it meant that it would impede her ability to try and get her kids into a safe environment.
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My kids are worth more than three quarters of a million dollars.
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I mean, it's such a low bar, not to impugn her at all, but because of how many monsters we talk about. That alone is like, that means you're human.
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Thank you, Jesus.
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So on March 11th, they had their hearing, and the court decided that Kelly's cases were not in conflict and she would not have to withdraw her bankruptcy case in order to file the protective order.
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The court also dismissed Alex's motion to dismiss the bankruptcy case.
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With the court determining that there was a legitimate dispute here, they set a trial date of April 23rd, 2020.
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This will be a quote, evidentiary trial on the merits of the involuntary petition and to determine whether to enter an order of relief against the alleged debtor, Alex,
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to dismiss the involuntary petition or to enter any other appropriate order.
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I normally might have considered something like this to be an element of Alex's personal life, which I generally err on the side of not covering, since it involves his divorce and ultimately, it's not about his worldview or rhetoric.
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It's just a dispute about his payment or non-payment of money he owes his ex-wife, but I'd like to explain a couple reasons why I decided to bring this up on the show.
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In the past six months or so, Alex has been way, way more fatalistic on air than I've ever seen him be before.
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He's been finding himself talking about quitting and recognizing that the end might be near in ways that I don't find to be similar to other periods of his career that I've looked at.
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Many of the things that he's dealing with could be what's driving that.
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From his supplement warnings to his upcoming Sandy Hook trial, there's a lot for him to worry about, and a lot of various things that you could think might be what he's worried will sink the ship.
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I've considered all the dynamics at play, and I've become fairly convinced that this pending trial with his ex-wife is what's been motivating most of Alex's behavior over the past months.
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Let me walk you through that reasoning.
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According to her filing, the notification of non-payment from Alex came regarding the July and August note payments back in 2019.
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You would assume that talk of filing a lawsuit over these defaulted payments wouldn't happen immediately.
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You know, there's probably some grace period, so there's probably a pretty good chance things were normal for a little while.
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Early September 2019 is when we started to hear Alex repeatedly have breakdowns, where he was talking about how Infos might not make it another year, and how he didn't know if he was going to reorder supplies.
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Some of that definitely could have been about his need to sell out stock so he wouldn't have to pay taxes on carried-over inventory, but if you recall, he talked a whole lot about selling his house.
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This is interesting because the debt that Alex has to Kelly is secured by liens on two properties that they had, and if Alex was found to be in default of his debt, one way it could be paid is by foreclosing on that property.
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Alex knows that these houses are what is used to secure his debt, so if he knew that he wasn't making payments, it would stand to reason that he knew it was only a matter of time until he lost his house.
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January 24th was the day that the bankruptcy filing was made, and there are a couple of interesting things that come from looking back at that show.
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The first is that Alex couldn't start the show on time that day, and when he did come to the mic, this is how it started.
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Reading all the news and all the information, this is probably one of the first times that I just physically could not go on air at the start of the broadcast.
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And, you know, there really just comes a time when the world's just going to have to be judged.
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He's in a pretty fucked up headspace of doom that day.
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And very much projecting his own judgments. Sooner or later, I'm going to have to be judged.
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Now, interestingly, that was the episode where Mike Adams declared it over for humanity, and Alex went right along with him.
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That's less relevant to Alex's mental state, because it was coming from Mike, but what we pay less attention to about that episode in hindsight is the other guest that was there that day.
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John Rappaport. I've noticed that Alex doesn't really bring John Rappaport around much these days, except when he needs a bro.
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I've long suspected that Rappaport is hypnotizing Alex, but maybe it's a benign kind of trance, where talking to Rappaport really does make Alex feel better.
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On this episode, it really did deteriorate into Alex kind of needing some therapy from John about identity issues.
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God is free will, so how do you open yourself up to God, but not to bad stuff and just say,
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because if people open yourself to God, I could instantly just connect to it. I'm going to be arrogant here on Air and Do It, but the point is, I can instantly just be in that place the most high that David talks about in the Psalms.
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How do people begin that journey? I guess not going to a fake church that knows they're seeking God and sucks him in. How do you do that?
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I think you recognize that you're you. You're an individual. You're not existing by virtue of the fact that you're hooked up to other things and people and so forth. That's not the source of your existence.
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Exactly. You don't need Facebook, Goldman Sachs. You need you.
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You need you. If you start there, you're going to go on the path.
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He's getting this like real.
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Yeah, that's 100% therapy.
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He was fucked up. And many John Rappaport interviews are that way. Like Alex really somehow just like needs Rappaport to set him right about things.
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And he was deeply fucked up about identity issues on this episode. And of course it ends with one of my favorite clips.
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John Rappaport, you got to come on more than once every six months. Please come back on next week. We love you. NoMoreFakeNews.com. You're a beautiful soul. We love you, John. We love John Rappaport. Thank you so much.
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Thank you, Alex. Thank you so much.
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Alex loves John Rappaport.
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Alex loves John Rappaport.
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So after this point, Alex goes back to normal for a bit. There aren't so many instances of him saying that everyone's going to die or the world is bound to be judged.
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But I think that there wasn't any real reason for Alex to be too worried after the immediate situation since he was going to and did file his motion to dismiss the case.
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So the ball had been successfully kicked down the road. For now, it's just normal-ass Infowars stuff.
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The one thing, though, is that there's dramatically increased sales pitches surrounding the food buckets and his silver right then.
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That is when everything went through the roof. It is.
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So at this point, he's engaging in the coronavirus as he might with any other sort of completely made-up and zero-stakes conspiracies that he engages in.
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On January 31st, he's freaking himself out about Resident Evil memes to give you some sense of how seriously things were being taken at that point.
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For a while, stuff is just Infowars business. The coronavirus narrative takes some twists and turns.
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In late February, Alex gets distracted by Roger's sentencing, and then he launches into a full-on publicity stunt about going to CPAC and associating with Nick Fuentes.
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Kelly had until March 5th to file her response to Alex's petition.
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So Alex, up till that point, if she doesn't file, he assumes they'll get kicked out.
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Yeah, she doesn't file on the 5th. She ends up filing on the 6th, but it was still accepted by the court given the coronavirus situation making things difficult for everyone.
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So by March 6th, Alex had a good reason to think that this wasn't just going to magically go away, and he knew that the hearing was on for March 11th.
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On air, things aren't too different, but on March 10th, he does his show after a night in jail for a DUI.
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On March 11th, Alex only hosts the first part of his show before Owen takes over.
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If you recall, most of the part Alex hosted was about his vaso-beats and how they have nitric oxide in them, which Alex thinks is nitrous oxide.
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Also, this is the show that he ends his segment when he's hosting, before he leaves, by surprising everyone with free shipping, which he swore he'd never do again.
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Things get pretty complicated at this point, because by March 12th, two things have happened.
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One is that he's learned from this court that his motion to dismiss was rejected, and he'd have to go to bankruptcy trial.
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The second is that he received a letter from the New York Attorney General, ordering him to cease and desist from the sales tactics he was using surrounding his silver.
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March 13th on his show is a complete breakdown. He started talking about how we're all dead already, he got really mad at callers, he promised to hit himself on air if he didn't take enough calls,
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he started rambling about how easy it was to kill other people, and notably, he ends the show predicting the imminent end of his show.
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I feel like I've almost completed my mission. I feel so exhausted.
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The Holy Spirit is just patting on the head saying, you did a good job, son.
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I think something really big and bad is about to happen, and I think I may be taken out, at least off air, very soon.
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And I don't say that to be dramatic. I want to tell y'all I love you and I appreciate you.
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But there's a lot of big stuff going down. Maybe that's going to change.
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But Trump is set any minute to declare an actual emergency. It was already declared three weeks ago.
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There was no show on the 14th because it was a Saturday, and Alex didn't do his show on March 15th, 16th, or 17th.
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But by the time he got back, the coronavirus situation had developed to the point where things were so crazy that it's legitimately impossible to discern what input is leading to what output from Alex.
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Since then, we've seen Alex increasingly be unable to do his show.
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He's left the show on a number of occasions. He's descended into rants about how the public deserves to be exterminated.
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He's gone out to break yelling things about how his listeners were going to burn in hell, only to come back from commercial and apologize.
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There's something very serious up, and this case seems like a possible candidate for what it is.
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I could be entirely wrong. I admit that entirely.
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But I think that this timeline somewhat suggests that a large secret contributor to Alex's complete inability to do his job, his frequent dalliances into thoughts of impending doom, and his notable recent absences could be this bankruptcy case that he's due in court for this Thursday.
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This is another reason I wanted to discuss this a little bit. I have no idea how the case is going to shake out, but there's a real possibility that this week could end with Alex losing a massive settlement that could stand to bankrupt him.
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I would hate for that news to break and have just been sitting on this information and not discuss it.
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At the same time, it's entirely possible that the court will decide in Alex's favor, or the trial could go on longer than one hearing, or Alex could lose and appeal the decision.
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I have no idea what's going to happen, but the more I looked at the timeline of this stuff, the more I saw possible overlap.
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Please, though, just take this as a possible thing, definitely not something that I'm claiming as definitive.
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Most of the things that you can see that line up as being possibly Alex responding to things in this case could easily be explained by other things.
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Like the New York Attorney General's letter coming right at the same time that his motion to dismiss was rejected.
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He's kind of got so much chaos going on in his life right now that it's almost pointless as an exercise to try and figure out what contributes to what.
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But I thought that if we had some information about a case that could possibly wreck Alex, it's worth discussing.
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Also, small point, my birthday is this Friday, the day after Alex's trial, so if the universe really wants to give me an amazing present, I think they know what I want.
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I think it's sad a little bit for Alex because I don't think he's capable of that clarity that comes whenever everything is just too bad.
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It seems like this has been my experience.
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Probably not until it's too late.
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Yeah, whenever I've been in a situation where it's just one thing after another, everything pisses me off until it gets to that point where I'm like,
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this is just so bad, I can't even feel angry about this. I just have perfect clarity of how I'm going to be fucked and I just got to live through this and he just cannot do that.
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Maybe off air he does.
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Could be.
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I don't know. It's so impossible to tell because of that.
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That DUI would suggest otherwise.
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That was one of the things that really seemed in the timeline to be, but it's a right smack dab in the middle of him realizing he has to go to court and the day he has his hearing.
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It's so right there. It's really difficult though. It's almost impossible to say anything, but I haven't heard any real talk of this case.
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And there's a lot of stuff in it that does veer too much into the personal, which is like, I don't think we have any business covering.
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So in this next clip, Jordan, we get back down to business and Alex is talking about how he's right about everything.
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But because he's right about everything, Trump won't say the same things Alex does because that means war.
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The very people that created the virus, gave it to China, released it, covered it up, got it over here, are now blaming President Trump.
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It's a script and we're just following it, but it's so diabolical.
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It's so evil. It's so ridiculous.
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But the Pentagon keeps going, we don't think it's man-made. We don't think China did it on purpose because if that's true, we got to go to war with them.
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And I understand that President Trump, I keep forgetting to put this on. I'm going to rebroadcast for a while. I'll just do that.
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Because this thing's been off for a while and I just need to get my earpiece back in.
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He's saying that Trump needs to say the same things as him, even though that means war.
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And then in the middle of the thought, he's like, my earpiece isn't in, I'm going to go off air.
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How little does he care about the seriousness of the topics he's covering? This is insane.
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I'm just going to leave you with that little tidbit of, I think we should be at war with China. I got to get off air real quick.
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It's my earpiece. I can't put it back in on air.
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It's so hard to find.
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Wow. That's shocking. So no more half measures though. It's time to go to war.
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Playing games and half measures and being politicians and playing patty cake with this is going to get us destroyed.
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So the old rules of being chicken necks and being cowards is over.
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Were you being that?
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Let me just do this because when things are really bad and really crazy and really insane, people need to be prepared and ready.
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I tend to get in the mode where I don't even talk about things that we can at least do.
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If you don't have firearms and ammunition, you better get them. I don't sell firearms and ammunition.
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If you don't have water filtration, you're insane. You need high quality water filtration.
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The Alexa Pure and the systems we have are excellent.
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I think they're sold out, so what's the point of plugging them? You should just try to get them somewhere.
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Alex knows damn well that Alexa Pure water filters are not sold out because they can never really be sold out because he doesn't actually keep them in his warehouse.
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If you go to his website, you'll immediately learn that he doesn't really sell Alexa Pure filters.
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They're a product that he sells through My Patriot Supply, his survival food sponsor. They also sell the Alexa Pure.
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Alex doesn't handle My Patriot Supply's orders. He's said on many occasions that they take the orders directly from Alex's website and they go to My Patriot Supply's fulfillment center.
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Then they ship it from there.
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Obviously, this would be needed to sell any of the food buckets at any kind of scale because no matter how big a space Alex is renting, he couldn't possibly afford to have a warehouse big enough for bulk food and water filtration systems.
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And this is spelled out on his website's shipping information.
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Quote, to ensure quality and reduce costs, this item ships directly from the supplier. If you purchase additional items, they will be shipped separately.
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In order for Alexa Pure water filters to be sold out, it must be true that My Patriot Supply itself is sold out of water filters.
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And in that case, it makes no sense to say if they're great, just try and find them somewhere. It's not real.
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This is an involuntary reaction for Alex to say things are sold out or near sold out because that creates the perception of artificial scarcity in the listener's mind.
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It's a pretty old school manipulative sales tactic and what you're selling isn't the product.
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What you're selling is the fear that you might be unable to get said product.
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And won't you feel dumb then? You got a chance.
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You're thinking about this Lexus. This is a great car. I don't know if you're not on the fence.
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I have two prospective buyers already.
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Let me just tell you right now, this one on the lot, it's the last one we haven't sold out.
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I have two people coming in later that already said they want to buy.
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Hold on, I'll talk to my manager. I'll see if I can, look, we might be able to get free shipping on this.
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I said I would never get free shipping to Lexus before.
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Generally, I don't believe Alex when he says things are sold out or near selling out, but typically I can't really do anything to confirm or deny his claims.
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In this case, however, it's a clear cut instance of a complete lie.
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So we got a new water filter. What is that? How you prove that they're still in stock?
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I did go to the website. I did go to my Patriots play. They're still in stock.
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Of course, but you got to get this food, right? You got to got to get buckets, got to get the water filters.
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You're going to need that food. It's time to fucking bug out.
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I bought from them 12 years ago in my attic and I got stuff I bought six months ago before all this kicked off in my garage.
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And when I went out to the place we've set up in the country, it took a bunch of this out there because I don't want to evacuate.
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It was one of the worst things I ever did. I just felt terrible doing it to even have to start preparing for the total collapse that's being taken off the air and knowing that that is now a real possibility.
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And that we're at that point. I'm not going to lie to you, but I have never been more disgusted.
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There's a lot of folks like to get into prepping and they feel kind of selfish. They've got their cabin in their woods and it's kind of romantic and everything.
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But for me, because I'm on air and all this, to think that we may get our asses kicked, at least to this round, have to shut down and.
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And then they're going to start arresting everybody during that. And it's just just to watch America on its knees makes me sick.
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I don't really want to go down this road, but I got to tell you now, folks, you definitely want to get food to supplement yourself into the future.
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And you want food that's easily transportable and that you've got ready to go. And there's not going to be any currency out there more valuable than food.
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So get my food money. Yeah. This is pretty doomy.
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Yeah. Now let me follow his logic real quick. There's no currency that will be more valuable than food.
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So you should trade your money for my food.
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Well, he doesn't actually have the food.
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That's true. That is true. I will give him that.
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He's the middleman to get you this future currency.
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I'm just saying that it would make more sense from an investing standpoint.
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Well, in the past he would have said gold, but he doesn't have a stake in that now.
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Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. No more. Hey, the bottom is going to fall out. The total societal collapse, summer of rage, come and get gold.
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None of that anymore. Why? It's pointless. Exactly.
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You got to get food because the globalists are at war with us and food is the answer.
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Globalists are engaged in economic and cultural war against us.
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And they're using this overhyped virus as the pretext to make themselves the saviors.
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And if you don't give them all the power and all the control over your life, you're the bad guy.
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Well, the answer is give yourself power and control over your life.
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And at least get that three month supply of food and have that in your attic or in your basement or wherever
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as a supplement into the future, knowing it's contained, it's ready, it's easily transferable.
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If you've got a bug out, you're not putting stuff in paper bags or plastic bags to put in the back of the truck.
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You're putting it in waterproof plastic tote containers and you're ready to boogie out.
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Ready to boogie out, you say? Oh boy. I don't like that.
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No, that's not great. So Alex gets done with his dumb, very extended sales pitch
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and he wants to let you know that he's going to drop the ultimate smoking gun that China is doing this censoring or something.
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Is it a homeless man with a computer chip in his arm?
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I wish it was. God. If he gets kicked off the air before doing that, I'm going to be furious.
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That's like one of those. That's his last episode. That's what he should do.
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That's one of those like things like, uh, sometimes there'll be storylines going in the WWE and then someone gets fired
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and never get the end of the storyline. That's brutal.
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If Alex fucking stops doing the show without doing that surgery, I'm going to be furious.
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I really don't want to have to say that Alex's show was canceled too soon.
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So, uh, smoking gun. Yeah. All of this is incredibly important, but I want listeners to understand something.
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This is life and death. Okay. Okay.
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I'm going to lay this on the White House and on Trump's lawyers and on the Pentagon and on everybody else.
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Dramatic action is the only way out of this.
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Leveling with the people is the only way out of this, that we're in a total war with globalist criminals,
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allied with the communist Chinese who developed the virus, prepared the propaganda, prepared the TV shows,
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the movies, the tabletop exercises with the governments that literally spent hundreds of millions of US taxpayer money
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through Bill and Melinda Gates. They don't ever spend their own money.
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Oh, you're such a philanthropist, such a sick joke to pre-program the response you're seeing.
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That is the takedown of the industrial world. Something that thousands of bombers couldn't do with conventional munitions.
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Prepare yourselves for the ultimate smoking gun.
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Smoking gun is just him covering that story about the fact checker again.
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Is it? Really? Why am I being prepared for that? I've already prepared for it.
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Yeah, he's already done it a bunch.
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It's already over. It's like I've already eaten all the food. I've already prepared for this.
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Yeah, he just covers the Dr. Danielle Anderson story again. Although, in this run through the story, there's actually a couple of added elements to it.
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A couple of lieutenant colonels?
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No, just a couple of added details where Alex is missing nuance.
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When you look up Dr. Danielle Anderson, what do you find at Duke in US medical school?
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She helped develop the test kit for COVID-19 that's now set to make over $200 billion.
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The very lab that released it developed the test kit.
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How convenient.
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Fake laugh? Yeah.
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So we have two claims being made there primarily.
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First is that Dr. Anderson is involved in the development of COVID-19 test kits.
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And the second is that she stands to make a ton of money from it.
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Johns Hopkins Center for Health Security has a list up on their website of all the tests for COVID-19 that are currently used or are in development.
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And if you want, we can take a look through all of them.
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There are currently four tests that have been approved for diagnostic use in the United States.
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Nine that have been approved for diagnostic use in other countries, but not here.
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26 that are, quote, approved for research and surveillance purposes only.
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And 11 more that are currently still in development.
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This alone should give you a pretty good sense that there isn't really a race to make this test in order to corner the market.
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There are a lot of people working on a very similar goal. No one's going to make $200 million.
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$200 billion. Pardon me.
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People might make $200 million. That's possible.
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One of the tests that is not used in the United States was developed at the Wang Lab, which is a part of the Duke NUS in Singapore.
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This test is only used in Singapore, and it's for antibodies to the virus.
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The test was developed by Professor Wang Linfa.
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And though it took a while to find evidence that this was the case, it is actually true that Dr. Anderson did collaborate with him on it.
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In a March interview with NUS News, Professor Wang said, quote,
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In my research with Assistant Professor Anderson, we are working towards making our serological test.
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That's great.
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So I guess this is kind of a half-truth being used to create a whole lie.
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Dr. Anderson is involved in the development of a test at Duke NUS, but there's no reason to believe that she's motivated by profits or that she stands to make billions off of it.
Unknown Speaker (01:24:31.659)
If Alex wants to complain about that, he should start with Cellex or ChemBio, who are the two companies that own tests, or two of the companies that own tests that are approved to be used in the United States.
Unknown Speaker (01:24:40.659)
This is a big zero in terms of a conspiracy.
Unknown Speaker (01:24:44.659)
Her test is not even approved in the United States.
Unknown Speaker (01:24:47.659)
No, just in Singapore.
Unknown Speaker (01:24:49.659)
Cool. Cool, Alex. Thanks for that.
Unknown Speaker (01:24:51.659)
Just because, oh, man.
Unknown Speaker (01:24:53.659)
It's good for her. I'm glad she helped develop the test.
Unknown Speaker (01:24:58.659)
That's great.
Unknown Speaker (01:25:00.659)
I don't see anything wrong with her.
Unknown Speaker (01:25:02.659)
But I'm not taking into account the fact that she fucking runs Facebook.
Unknown Speaker (01:25:04.659)
I forgot that shit.
Unknown Speaker (01:25:06.659)
You're right. There you go. I forgot.
Unknown Speaker (01:25:07.659)
She runs Facebook and decides who can say what.
Unknown Speaker (01:25:12.659)
And she works high level at the bio weapons lab, on record.
Unknown Speaker (01:25:16.659)
And she has the big global test that it turns out says all cold bugs are COVID-19 to get a higher rate.
Unknown Speaker (01:25:27.659)
Oh, when did it do that?
Unknown Speaker (01:25:28.659)
Every death as COVID-19 when it's not.
Unknown Speaker (01:25:30.659)
So you talk about no wonder they want to censor everybody because they can't handle anybody studying who they did.
Unknown Speaker (01:25:35.659)
You're all caught.
Unknown Speaker (01:25:37.659)
So that must be why they want Alex off the air.
Unknown Speaker (01:25:40.659)
Because no one can handle the level of truth and investigation he's bringing to the table.
Unknown Speaker (01:25:44.659)
The globalists just have no rebuttal to this high end truth coming out of the info wars.
Unknown Speaker (01:25:48.659)
They just shut it down.
Unknown Speaker (01:25:50.659)
So the first claim here is that Dr. Anderson runs Facebook's fact checking, which we've already discussed in detail, and it's not true.
Unknown Speaker (01:25:55.659)
The second claim is that this test that she was involved in developing in Singapore was designed to make people with colds test positive for COVID-19.
Unknown Speaker (01:26:02.659)
This one's actually really interesting. I mean, obviously it's not true, but the extent to which it's not true is actually impressive.
Unknown Speaker (01:26:10.659)
According to an article in the Straits Times, an English newspaper in Singapore, the development of this test was actually very difficult for exactly the reason Alex is suggesting.
Unknown Speaker (01:26:19.659)
This is a serology test that looks for antibodies against COVID-19, so it's important that they actually find the exact antibodies or else this test is kind of useless.
Unknown Speaker (01:26:28.659)
As it turns out, Singapore is kind of the perfect place for that kind of thing to be developed, primarily because the country was hit hard by the SARS outbreak in 2003.
Unknown Speaker (01:26:38.659)
So there's a lot of people who have antibodies for SARS in their body there.
Unknown Speaker (01:26:42.659)
SARS and COVID-19 are both coronaviruses, and according to Dr. Wong, they're approximately 80% similar.
Unknown Speaker (01:26:48.659)
So the challenge he faced was to develop an antibody test that was so precise that it wouldn't bring up false positives if it was used on someone who had antibodies for SARS in them.
Unknown Speaker (01:26:58.659)
They came up with a screening test that was approximately 90% accurate and is very quick, as well as a quote, gold standard test that takes four to five days in a level three biohazard lab, but is supposedly completely accurate.
Unknown Speaker (01:27:10.659)
What's important here is that the test developed in Singapore is actually the worst possible example Alex could come up with when he's randomly trying to accuse people of creating a test that will just call any cold COVID-19.
Unknown Speaker (01:27:21.659)
The team of researchers set out from the jump with the awareness that they would have to create a test that doesn't create false positives for very similar antibodies, which they appear to have achieved.
Unknown Speaker (01:27:31.659)
Anyway, no one, the imaginary globalists least of all, are worried about the alleged truth that Alex is spreading on air.
Unknown Speaker (01:27:37.659)
I think people want him off air because he's an unstable narcissist who seems to be drifting deeper and deeper into calling for a simultaneous civil and cold war, curiously right when his own personal life is falling apart.
Unknown Speaker (01:27:48.659)
That's someone who leaving politics aside should not be on air, is only a danger.
Unknown Speaker (01:27:54.659)
It is like he correctly identified the problem and then just assumed it was insurmountable.
Unknown Speaker (01:27:59.659)
You mean the antibodies?
Unknown Speaker (01:28:00.659)
Yeah, of course it would provide false positives because you're like, okay, that is a good start and smart people caught that before you.
Unknown Speaker (01:28:12.659)
That's why no one's afraid of you. If you have a thought, somebody had it first, buddy.
Unknown Speaker (01:28:16.659)
The common cold is less similar to COVID-19 than SARS is and if they're considering SARS in terms of this test, which again isn't globally used.
Unknown Speaker (01:28:25.659)
I don't know. I don't know what Alex is trying to prove here, but it's all bullshit.
Unknown Speaker (01:28:30.659)
I think he's proving himself wrong.
Unknown Speaker (01:28:32.659)
Earlier in the episode, Alex was complaining about children being told to confront their parents about misinformation and stuff.
Unknown Speaker (01:28:41.659)
He doesn't really get around to explaining what that story is about until later.
Unknown Speaker (01:28:46.659)
Now we get into that and man, holy fucking shit, this falls off the rails.
Unknown Speaker (01:28:50.659)
Ladies and gentlemen, from Australia to the United States to Canada, they are calling for people to get in their parents' faces during kids at home on government programming.
Unknown Speaker (01:29:04.659)
And CNN has played all the public schools, first period, first 10 minutes, they're doing it too, saying, does your dad say it came from Wuhan lab?
Unknown Speaker (01:29:14.659)
Well, get in his face and send him a definitive link from Danielle Anderson. I'm not kidding.
Unknown Speaker (01:29:25.659)
And they don't tell you she runs the lab or has the test for it that says all coronaviruses are COVID-19 to create the hysteria.
Unknown Speaker (01:29:36.659)
These people are ridiculously obvious and stupid.
Unknown Speaker (01:29:40.659)
First thing I would say is this name has never come up on Alex's show before and yet she seems to be the master over all areas of, so maybe that should be a red flag.
Unknown Speaker (01:29:53.659)
She's behind George Soros. Did you know that?
Unknown Speaker (01:29:56.659)
Yeah, Dr. Anderson. Soros isn't even a doctor. Now you know how evil she is. She has a degree.
Unknown Speaker (01:30:01.659)
How'd you fuck this up? Didn't notice this lady for all this time?
Unknown Speaker (01:30:06.659)
How long has she been working? Never? Exactly. There you go.
Unknown Speaker (01:30:08.659)
So another obvious problem with the narrative that Alex is selling here, at least as far as the US goes, is that most schools in the country are closed.
Unknown Speaker (01:30:17.659)
So there's no class where they'd be playing these videos for kids. I'm not sure how elementary schools operate, like, except for outside, like my experience.
Unknown Speaker (01:30:25.659)
They don't have periods. I feel like that's for older students, like in junior high and high school, but I have no idea. I haven't been in school in a long time.
Unknown Speaker (01:30:32.659)
So this video isn't something that's played for kids at school. It's a news piece that the Canadian Broadcasting Company did about the uncomfortable situation that a lot of people find themselves in,
Unknown Speaker (01:30:42.659)
where someone in a group chat, possibly a family member, is spouting insane conspiracy theories.
Unknown Speaker (01:30:47.659)
The piece is basically just explaining that your instinct might be to call them crazy, but that kind of shaming behavior will often just reinforce the belief the person previously had as a defense mechanism to deal with the embarrassment of being called out.
Unknown Speaker (01:30:58.659)
They recommend inclusive, empathic language, like reminding the person that we're all in this together.
Unknown Speaker (01:31:06.659)
It doesn't recommend anyone use the resources put out by Danielle Anderson, nor does it mention health feedback. They just suggest sending them a good link to a real source.
Unknown Speaker (01:31:15.659)
But if Alex is laughing at the idea of good sources, we are well past the point where his point makes any sense.
Unknown Speaker (01:31:20.659)
He was actually referencing my video where I gave examples such as, like, uh, listen up, mom! If that is your real name, you're wrong about everything!
Unknown Speaker (01:31:31.659)
And, uh, also, I'll see you in hell!
Unknown Speaker (01:31:34.659)
As it turns out, Alex is not as concerned with confronting moms as he is about this being a real attack on dads.
Unknown Speaker (01:31:42.659)
Yeah, well. And this is pretty fucked up. Pretty fucked up. He starts trying to play the video and he can't control himself.
Unknown Speaker (01:31:53.659)
Here, here, let's go ahead and play this.
Unknown Speaker (01:31:55.659)
So what do you do when this happens? A loved one, let's say it's your dad, drops into the family group chat with something he thinks is real.
Unknown Speaker (01:32:03.659)
Pause again. Let's back this up. Men fighting for their families. How dare them dropping into a group chat to talk to the women.
Unknown Speaker (01:32:12.659)
The women are going to show him like Danielle Anderson at the bio weapon lab who makes money off the test, who runs the censorship.
Unknown Speaker (01:32:22.659)
Ladies, we're going to show the man. Yeah. Yeah. Screw them. Screw those men. Hell yeah. Shut them up. Cut their balls off. Yeah. Yeah. Bill Gates loves us. Sorry. Go ahead and roll it.
Unknown Speaker (01:32:37.659)
That sounded a little personal. That sounded a little personal, but if it were just that, I would leave it alone.
Unknown Speaker (01:32:44.659)
Yeah. I would be like, yeah, this is your masculine sensitivity. But he says, he says restart it. So they started back over. I'm like, all right, maybe he'll get further into it this time.
Unknown Speaker (01:32:57.659)
So what do you do when this happens? A loved one. Let's say it's your dad drops into the family group chat.
Unknown Speaker (01:33:03.659)
Let's say it's your dad. Oh, the change of diapers took the barbecue and took the trash out and loves you and swam with the pool in you and took you to girl scouts. Back it up.
Unknown Speaker (01:33:15.659)
It sounds personal, dad. No five G's girls. Just let us run you. Please let us sterilize you. Please, please die.
Unknown Speaker (01:33:28.659)
Sorry. So liberal. It's so liberal. Listen to Daniel Anderson. Don't listen to your daddy. Listen to Bill Gates.
Unknown Speaker (01:33:37.659)
Let's play it again. Here it is. Yes. This definitely feels like he's working through some things.
Unknown Speaker (01:33:44.659)
There might be something personal going on. I don't think he has a great relationship with the women in his life currently.
Unknown Speaker (01:33:50.659)
It doesn't seem like it. So he tries a third time. Sure. Why would you do that? Let's play it again. Here it is.
Unknown Speaker (01:33:56.659)
So what do you do when this happens? A loved one. Let's say it's your dad drops into the.
Unknown Speaker (01:34:02.659)
With something he thinks is real. It's something about China.
Unknown Speaker (01:34:07.659)
Dad. Of course, it's all true. Dad's right. But see, it's like the fun of we don't listen to dad. We take the shots and that convulsions and die. But it's so trendy.
Unknown Speaker (01:34:20.659)
Sorry. Turn it over. Oh no. This is how many times he, he, he makes it a little bit further the next time.
Unknown Speaker (01:34:30.659)
It's it, but it just, I mean, it, it's, uh, it seems like he's really hinging on that dad thing to a level that, uh, maybe it's about the HR director.
Unknown Speaker (01:34:43.659)
It's possible. Something real fucked up that he's trying to express. So he goes out to break yelling about dads.
Unknown Speaker (01:34:54.659)
Of course. Dad's right. Oh, you're feeding into the fear. Just stay at home. The Chinese love you.
Unknown Speaker (01:34:59.659)
Sure. They got 3 million people in death camps, but dad sure. They killed dad, dad, dad, dad, dad, dad.
Unknown Speaker (01:35:13.659)
And he just didn't have testicles dad. They're wanting free speech dad. These weird, frumpy women on the chai con payroll told me my daddy's bad. Screw you, daddy. Burn in hell, daddy.
Unknown Speaker (01:35:29.659)
Admittedly, that is the type of behavior that would get a dog neutered.
Unknown Speaker (01:35:33.659)
Yeah. I don't really have much of a comment about this.
Unknown Speaker (01:35:40.659)
This is something so much shouldn't be doing on anger. Like it's so obviously like it's, it's pathological.
Unknown Speaker (01:35:50.659)
It's not, it's not using the source material to provide commentary. It's not, it's not really even, uh, expressing a point.
Unknown Speaker (01:36:00.659)
It's just lashing out. It's just angry. It's just responsive anger. And it seems to all circle around the idea of listening to dad.
Unknown Speaker (01:36:08.659)
Yeah. It's something about dad really set him off. There's something about somebody's children not listening to dad. That seems really important to him right now for some odd reason. I don't know.
Unknown Speaker (01:36:19.659)
It's very weird. Yep. So, um, he goes to break and he comes back and I guess maybe because of some of those issues, he needs a proxy son.
Unknown Speaker (01:36:28.659)
So he brings Owen Troyer into studio to be his dad. And, uh, the two of them just are straight up calling for war with John.
Unknown Speaker (01:36:38.659)
If you could actually be honest that this came out of a lab and was manmade, then you could actually say, okay, you know what? Hey, we got a serious situation here.
Unknown Speaker (01:36:46.659)
This is biological warfare launched against us by the Chinese. We need this to phase out. We're going to need a month. We're going to have to do some serious social distancing.
Unknown Speaker (01:36:51.659)
Instead, they're totally desperate blaming our speech when it's confirmed. And how does the government put up with this? Chai comes run everything. I want action from the president now.
Unknown Speaker (01:37:05.659)
No, it's totally out of control. And I'm not going to try to come.
Unknown Speaker (01:37:09.659)
Why are you so upset? I don't know. We're under bio attack. We're locked down in our houses.
Unknown Speaker (01:37:13.659)
Any other reason now?
Unknown Speaker (01:37:14.659)
I know a lot of men, like if you bump in a store, they're ready to kick your ass or if your dog craps the yard, they go, Hey, your dog just crapped. I'm like, Hey, sorry. I'll beat your ass.
Unknown Speaker (01:37:24.659)
If somebody just kills your whole family, destroys your way a lot, you just sit there and piss on a little puddle. I mean, I'm sick of it.
Unknown Speaker (01:37:33.659)
Is Alex saying that like trying to fight over like bumping into somebody is a good impulse?
Unknown Speaker (01:37:39.659)
Is it?
Unknown Speaker (01:37:40.659)
It's not.
Unknown Speaker (01:37:41.659)
I don't think so.
Unknown Speaker (01:37:41.659)
But I think Alex seems to think that it is anyway. The two of them are basically just saying they want Trump to go to war with China, which is not good.
Unknown Speaker (01:37:49.659)
Oh, thank you so much for listening to dad. Oh my God. I needed somebody to listen to dad so bad. Oh, thank you Owen.
Unknown Speaker (01:37:58.659)
So they, they started discussing how like we're almost in a nuclear war.
Unknown Speaker (01:38:02.659)
Sure. We're two inches from total nuclear war right now with China. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, I've had it.
Unknown Speaker (01:38:06.659)
It's time for action. I don't know what the president's waiting on at this point.
Unknown Speaker (01:38:11.659)
Whoa. Reality man, man. Oh man. Hope no one's listening to this. Yikes.
Unknown Speaker (01:38:17.659)
So Alex and Owen, they're goof. They do a lot of goofing on this, uh, this interview. If you want to call it that. Sure. Comedy segment.
Unknown Speaker (01:38:25.659)
Ah, Alex gets lost in an impression. I think of like a Rothschild kind of thing. This is where I kind of thought like maybe he's drunk, but I think maybe not.
Unknown Speaker (01:38:36.659)
I think he just got like really emotionally overloaded and now he needs Owen to like fuck around because it got too real.
Unknown Speaker (01:38:43.659)
Some kind of release. Yeah. Yeah. I think that's more what's going on than him being drunk.
Unknown Speaker (01:38:47.659)
I mean, this is that thing on screen, right? That's like, that's like the Rothschild, like the old Rothschild royalty.
Unknown Speaker (01:38:52.659)
They're kind of losing control. Bill Gates is now seeing like virus scare them. Oh, that will show them.
Unknown Speaker (01:38:59.659)
Uh, wait.
Unknown Speaker (01:39:06.659)
And Bill Gates is sitting back like, yes, you had your central banking. You had Bill Gates right there.
Unknown Speaker (01:39:12.659)
He's like, Oh, your central banks are failing. Your fake wars have been exposed.
Unknown Speaker (01:39:17.659)
They'll, they'll kill everyone. They'll forget about your policy scheme. I just want to say this is great.
Unknown Speaker (01:39:23.659)
Except everyone knows it's you.
Unknown Speaker (01:39:25.659)
I've got some you think it scares me of the stuff you've got jacked up. I love it. I've never been higher than this. I love it.
Unknown Speaker (01:39:34.659)
So we've got to destroy your ass. No, no, but it's the Alex. Here's the thing.
Unknown Speaker (01:39:40.659)
People want to be, Oh my gosh, you guys are just, you're just so extreme. You're just so loud and boisterous.
Unknown Speaker (01:39:45.659)
Oh, why are you so alive? Oh, I don't know. I mean, it's like I got, I got people putting out Chinese propaganda and the United States.
Unknown Speaker (01:39:54.659)
They admit that Facebook's run by the Wu Han deputy scientist.
Unknown Speaker (01:40:00.659)
Okay. So I mean like it's not, it's not the like telltale drunk sign, but there are some little things like the constantly interrupting them.
Unknown Speaker (01:40:08.659)
Sorry. Sorry. That happens when he's drunk, but I think it also happens when he's sober. This, this to me is inconclusive on the side of sober.
Unknown Speaker (01:40:16.659)
Yeah. I think, I think he's sober. I think he's just out of his mind.
Unknown Speaker (01:40:19.659)
I think it's the sorry. That's only, it's the sorry. That's throwing me off. Yeah. Usually if he's not drunk, he'll just be like, go like that.
Unknown Speaker (01:40:26.659)
They're hard to tell. Yeah. So they get around to like, they're doing this shit. That's like fucking around and nonsense.
Unknown Speaker (01:40:32.659)
These weird impression. We need to go to total nuclear war with China.
Unknown Speaker (01:40:38.659)
And then it jumps back and forth. Cause in this next clip, they're talking about how like, Hey, we could end this in three hours.
Unknown Speaker (01:40:46.659)
If we had leadership, these guys are awesome.
Unknown Speaker (01:40:49.659)
Literally, if there was any leadership, we could decapitate these people in like three hours. I mean, the military could just, you send out a thousand assassins, uh, and, and, and, and go up to globalists that are known shy com operatives.
Unknown Speaker (01:41:00.659)
And you just take control of the infrastructure, hand it back to the people. And I'm not a guy that like lust it for violence. They're attacking us, brother.
Unknown Speaker (01:41:07.659)
Yeah, brother. They're attacking us. You lost for violence to an insane degree. Yeah. And a terrifying about your blood lust is terrifying.
Unknown Speaker (01:41:17.659)
Right. I mean, what would this three hours of taking out the leadership involved? I mean, you'd have to overthrow China, right?
Unknown Speaker (01:41:22.659)
Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. You'd have to take out all of the globalists, which are pretty much everybody. The whole democratic party, the entire, like all of big tech, all of the healthcare system in the country, all philanthropy, all foundations.
Unknown Speaker (01:41:40.659)
I already said Democrats. You're going to need more than a thousand assassins. I'll tell you that right now. And more than three hours.
Unknown Speaker (01:41:46.659)
That's a stupid fucking idea. The point of using an assassin is that it's a small, it's a, it's a one person, you know, it's easy for one person to get into places.
Unknown Speaker (01:41:58.659)
If you're using a thousand assassins, somebody's going to get tipped off. Does he really think that a thousand assassins could take out the 10,000 Stasi that run Facebook?
Unknown Speaker (01:42:07.659)
Yeah, they're the better assassins. To be fair, the Stasi are old, so maybe it would work. So Owen, of course, is there to complain.
Unknown Speaker (01:42:16.659)
Takes longer than three hours to get to China. That's true. So Owen's there mostly to complain about the fact that he got kicked off Twitter, of course.
Unknown Speaker (01:42:25.659)
And it's, you know, of course it's because he was trying to do this rally, right? Interestingly, he tries to compare his own rally to those of the civil rights era.
Unknown Speaker (01:42:34.659)
Sure, that's going around. There's a couple of problems. White people love that shit. Couple of problems. Love that shit.
Unknown Speaker (01:42:40.659)
We'll play that clip when we come back and we'll get into your thought crime because imagine you're like, yeah, I'm going to go out and I just have my right to assemble, you know, like black folks did in the 1960s or whatever.
Unknown Speaker (01:42:49.659)
I used that on the left. Like imagine they just said there was a virus back then. We wouldn't even end the segregation. I mean, it's just like, it's like you just literally everything stopped because there's a virus. It's not even that deadly of a virus.
Unknown Speaker (01:42:59.659)
No, no. Stop breathing, actually. Because you can catch the virus. I guarantee you, you can't catch a respiratory virus if you stop breathing.
Unknown Speaker (01:43:08.659)
That's the answer, folks. Stop breathing.
Unknown Speaker (01:43:11.659)
The superpower that I have is that I tell you what I really think, even if it ends up hurting me short term.
Unknown Speaker (01:43:18.659)
Maybe. Got caught off by the break there. They're fucking around.
Unknown Speaker (01:43:21.659)
I mean, there's some problems with the comparison.
Unknown Speaker (01:43:25.659)
Like what, Dan? I can't see any off the top of my head.
Unknown Speaker (01:43:27.659)
Well, I mean, I would just start with like racism not being contagious.
Unknown Speaker (01:43:32.659)
Well, if you listen to Alex, it might be.
Unknown Speaker (01:43:36.659)
I would also suggest that possibly during the civil rights era, were there a gigantic outbreak?
Unknown Speaker (01:43:44.659)
White people would have cared so much about the black community.
Unknown Speaker (01:43:48.659)
Some of those protests might have been put off.
Unknown Speaker (01:43:50.659)
Yeah.
Unknown Speaker (01:43:50.659)
They would have still happened, maybe a little later. I think that, yeah, probably civil rights is one of the most important things that you could possibly agitate for, protest in favor of.
Unknown Speaker (01:44:02.659)
Still think you might want to hold off a tiny bit if there is a gigantic pandemic going on.
Unknown Speaker (01:44:07.659)
Yeah, yeah, yeah. Listen, guys.
Unknown Speaker (01:44:09.659)
That's a counterfactual. I can't say for sure that that is what would have happened, but I imagine there's a chance.
Unknown Speaker (01:44:13.659)
Yeah, I would hope that Martin Luther King Jr. wouldn't be like, well, we've been being fucked over and murdered by the white oppressors for our entire lives and the entire lives of our families and back and back and back.
Unknown Speaker (01:44:30.659)
So I think it's a good idea for all of us to get together and wipe out two to three percent of us at the same time.
Unknown Speaker (01:44:36.659)
I think that's a great idea.
Unknown Speaker (01:44:37.659)
Second difference, Owen, his whole thing is meaningless and there's no point to them doing what they're doing.
Unknown Speaker (01:44:44.659)
No, no.
Unknown Speaker (01:44:45.659)
So that's the other big difference there.
Unknown Speaker (01:44:47.659)
That's a big problem, yeah.
Unknown Speaker (01:44:48.659)
Anyway.
Unknown Speaker (01:44:49.659)
Also, it's a horribly racist thing for them to even say.
Unknown Speaker (01:44:51.659)
Perhaps, yes. In this next clip, though, I should say at the end of that last one, Owen started fucking around and saying like, hey, if we just stop breathing, we won't spread the virus.
Unknown Speaker (01:45:02.659)
Go for it, Owen. Start. You first.
Unknown Speaker (01:45:03.659)
Well, you first. It turns out this becomes a big comedy piece.
Unknown Speaker (01:45:07.659)
Of course.
Unknown Speaker (01:45:08.659)
I'm not even going to take a deep breath. I'm just going to stop breathing because I want to be a leader. I want to stop the spread.
Unknown Speaker (01:45:13.659)
Let's do it. Let's do it. Let's do it.
Unknown Speaker (01:45:15.659)
I'm Obama and you're Hillary. Let's just.
Unknown Speaker (01:45:20.659)
Now, of course, we do have a silence alarm that will hit, so we should probably play some music under the certain stations, get mad.
Unknown Speaker (01:45:26.659)
Like something like you would get at a funeral.
Unknown Speaker (01:45:28.659)
Yeah, it's kind of getting harder.
Unknown Speaker (01:45:30.659)
But I'm saying you're right.
Unknown Speaker (01:45:31.659)
Hold on.
Unknown Speaker (01:45:35.659)
A little like 30 seconds.
Unknown Speaker (01:45:37.659)
A little covid's coming up.
Unknown Speaker (01:45:39.659)
No, but we joke around about this. I saw the headline like breathing spreads it. Well, the obvious answer is not breathing.
Unknown Speaker (01:45:45.659)
I'd save the world.
Unknown Speaker (01:45:47.659)
I'll tell you what, Owen.
Unknown Speaker (01:45:49.659)
I'm saving the world.
Unknown Speaker (01:45:51.659)
It's a good bit. It's a good bit. You can't take that away from good bit. Well executed, well conceived.
Unknown Speaker (01:45:54.659)
I'm done, Karen. Go for it, buddy. Right. Go for it.
Unknown Speaker (01:46:02.659)
That goes on a bit longer than that clip.
Unknown Speaker (01:46:04.659)
You want to mock people dying from covid-19 and then go outside and have a big rally with all kinds of people around?
Unknown Speaker (01:46:10.659)
Go to it. Have fun.
Unknown Speaker (01:46:14.659)
So in this next clip, they talk about the suspension from Twitter and they have three primary complaints about it, or Alex does.
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And all of them are dumb.
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I'm saying, Alex, get back to the censorship. They're using coronavirus as an excuse. It's not about coronavirus.
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Obviously, it's not about that.
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But what about Congress should act that Twitter says they're trying to organize to have protests. Those aren't allowed in America.
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What happened to freedom of assembly? All your BS doesn't trump that.
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This is insane how they just pushed the president and the president out further and further. Look at that.
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I apologize. The three complaints are in a later clip. This is just the first complaint. This is the right of assembly.
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Twitter is in no obligation to protect Alex or Owen's right to assemble somewhere.
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The first amendment is about what the government can and cannot do. And the government can't stop free assembly. That's just the rule.
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Twitter can suspend people for trying to put together huge gatherings in the middle of a pandemic. That's totally within their rights.
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And guess what? These rallies over the weekend went off, mostly without a hitch, because the government didn't infringe on people's right to assemble, as completely fucked up and stupid of an idea as it was.
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I can find one story about a person in Raleigh who was arrested at a protest, and this introduces an important point.
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The right to congregate or assemble is not absolute.
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For instance, if you're breaking a different law at a protest, you can still be arrested.
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Let's say you're at an anti-war demonstration and you punch someone. You can be arrested for assault. This happens all the time.
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I just assembled my fist to their face, buddy. That is legal. Right to free assembly.
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It's a very common thing that left-wing protesters will mention if you talk to them.
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Protesters are arrested for trespassing all the time. Some other charge, too.
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This is one of the fundamental realities that people in activist communities are well aware of, and it's part of the price of doing protests.
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In the context of a declared emergency, like the one we're in now, state governments do have the ability to do things that they might not have had the ability to do in other circumstances.
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When there's a stay-at-home order in place from the governor, the police can arrest people who are protesting.
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Not because of the assembly, but because the act of being assembled is a breach of another legal order.
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So, a lot of this will vary state by state, but generally speaking, you can still go protest, but if you do, you very well might get arrested.
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Your First Amendment rights are still intact, but exercising them in a way that jeopardizes community health could run the risk of getting you arrested.
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It's not ideal, but it's also not tyranny.
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What that is so exemplary of is the difference between right-wing and left-wing protests.
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Right-wing protesters are so used to never being bothered, and left-wing protesters are like,
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They kick us in the face every fucking time. We're going to jail all the time. They're trying to murder us.
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Did you guys not know that cops are fascists? And right-wing protesters are like,
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You guys aren't letting us hang out? Oh, no!
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Yeah, I think that anybody who's been involved in any of these sorts of things know that you get arrested a bit.
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Like, it's just something that will happen.
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All the pictures you see of people at human chains and stuff, it's kind of a part of the biz.
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And they just can't handle the idea of getting suspended from Twitter.
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Yeah, good guys.
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So Alex now comes back from break, and he does another comedy bit.
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I mean, I've got to say, really good. Really well-conceived, well-executed good bit.
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So I don't just believe we should all be given masks. I believe they should set up voluntarily hanging centers at all the local grocery stores.
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You can put it on Twitter, and the China will promote it. And we should all hang ourselves.
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Like they said, there's too many people. So, ceremonially, we have Gigi Ping's spirit animal here.
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Gigi Ding Dong is here, and look at that. You are looking very nice, Gigi Ping.
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Actually, I represent the future babies of planet Earth and the world.
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So Owen has come back with a plastic baby mask over his face, which is sort of blocking his ability to be heard clearly.
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Do you mean the thing that he's supposed to be doing?
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So it's a good bit. Owen comes back as a baby or something. Alex says it's Gigi Ping's spirit animal or something.
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They clearly didn't work this out in the commercial break. They're sort of working across purposes.
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They don't really have a good yes and thing going, because Owen has just invalidated the premise that Alex has established.
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So that's good.
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Actually, I'm not the thing you said. Everybody knows that no but is the best form of improv.
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But I will say that they're on the same page in terms of the game, and that is that this baby is there to kill Alex.
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Alex asks baby Owen to kill him.
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Will you kill me right now so I don't hurt the Earth anymore?
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Yes, but I just want to say that this is an example, and the future of the world, the Democrats really care about the future babies.
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And so we've been sent, Alex, to come here and to kill all humans so that we can save the human race.
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And you have volunteered, Alex Jones has volunteered as Pribute. He will be the first to die.
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Actually, you're going to do this while I die. I'll be uploaded, live forever in the digital. I'm not really being killed.
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Oh yes, of course. Great improv there. Adding a new layer to it that I'm not actually going to be killed, I'm going to be turned into AI.
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Oh yes, of course, that's my plan. Oh God, this is so bad.
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This is the problem with getting good at comedy. Part of getting good at comedy is making it seem like you're not working that hard.
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True. So people who don't realize that you have to work insanely hard to get there think it's easy and you can just do it anytime you want.
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Well, something that I thought was really interesting when I was listening to this and then I went and watched it was like,
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there have to be some people, probably not a ton, but some people who are like, this is hilarious.
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Lionel gets laughs. Does he? Not really.
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I mean, there's got to be some people who think it's like innovative, like, oh my God, I can't believe Owen's wearing a baby mask.
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He wore a baby mask. I can almost understand what he's saying.
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It's amazing. So anyway, baby Owen kills Alex on air.
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You're a real hero for this, Alex.
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I'm ready to join apple heaven.
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Are you ready for this? Oh, yes. Rest now, Alex. Rest, Alex. Good. Good. Good, Alex.
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And so ladies and gentlemen, as you can see, this is the future of mankind.
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This is the only future if you want the future babies of the world to live.
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So listen to Bill Gates and take your loving vaccine and just die.
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Just die so that humans can live forever.
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And until then, stay inside. Now, Alex Jones, digital hologram rises from the dead, just like we say.
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Oh, it's so wonderful. All of you need to get your physical bodies. You'll be in heaven like me.
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Oh, this is this is this goes on too long. It's meandering to a certain extent.
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Yeah. Anyway, I wish I could say I hadn't seen anything like that in a community theater before, but
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what are you going to do? What's really fun for me about this is that Alex now gives up on the bit right in the middle of it.
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Oh, and still trying to go through like moving forward. And Alex is just like, fuck it, I'm done.
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But I think secretly what's going on is that Alex is jealous that Owens wearing the mask and is the center of attention.
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That's what I think is going on. That sounds right.
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And I just hope that fellow Americans take from Alex Jones' lead and they just willingly die.
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But don't worry, we'll put your consciousness onto the system for free.
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Is that really Owens Troyer behind that mask?
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For free.
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Wait, but you're an imposter.
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Say it with me. For free.
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Are you getting serious?
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Now we're breaking the fourth wall.
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We can sit here and have fun during this tyranny.
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I'm just, you know, I always say I'm honest with the audience and I am, but sometimes I hold back on stuff.
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So I'll just be completely honest with everybody.
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I'll just make a huge issue out of this right now, okay?
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He's putting the baby mask on.
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This looks too natural.
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It actually is natural right now.
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Hello. Take your vaccines. We love you.
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Alex, I think, was jealous of Owen getting to have the fun of wearing a mask.
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What that reminds me so much of is a Chicago comic, who will not be named,
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who went to one show, one show, just he was headlining.
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He bombed so bad for like four minutes that he just left.
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And then the host came back on.
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I believe this was Matt Druffke and started doing well.
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And then he came back on and he kicked Matt Druffke off to drive.
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Like this is him being like, it's not my fault I wasn't getting the laughs.
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It's because of that guy wearing the baby mask.
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Alex bails on the bit and then wants to get right back into it as soon as he gets the mask.
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I want the ball.
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So anyway, the bit ends and they get back to Owen's Twitter situation.
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And this is where the three complaints come up.
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When I learned last night that you and a bunch of other crew members were banned off Twitter
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and they said because you're going to violate social distancing,
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imagine that level of tyranny where due process and where, before you even did it,
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an off-platform activity and the right to assemble and basic,
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the First Amendment's gone and it's all being overseen by the same tech companies that help police the Chinese people.
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This is a crime against humanity. This is war crimes.
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So I think calling Owen getting suspended from Twitter a war crime might be a little overly dramatic.
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I thought calling him a civil rights leader was overly dramatic.
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That's just factually inaccurate. This is overly dramatic.
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Maybe that kind of talk hurts a person's credibility, but to be fair, Alex doesn't have much to begin with, so he's probably fine.
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Alex's three complaints about Owen's suspension seem to come down to the issue of First Amendment,
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due process, and the question of off-platform activity.
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These are all bullshit complaints.
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As to the issue of the First Amendment, it doesn't apply here, so I just reject that as an argument.
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In terms of due process, what rights of due process does Owen have with Twitter that are being violated?
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The fundamental concept of due process relates to the state respecting a person's rights
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and how a person has a right to a trial before they're executed, imprisoned, or have their property seized by the state.
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None of that's relevant to Twitter.
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Twitter doesn't owe anyone a trial before they suspend their account.
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This is just word salad Alex is throwing around.
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The question of off-platform behavior is even lamer, because that's not applicable at all.
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If Owen were just organizing this rally and he didn't mention it on Twitter, there's a good chance he'd still have a Twitter account.
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However, he mentioned it a bunch on Twitter.
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Oh, and he did Periscope videos where he promoted it and went to hospitals to show there weren't cars in front of him.
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He did a ton of on-platform activity that was meant to promote his off-platform activity, which is kind of the problem here.
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All three of these complaints are complete bullshit. He's just trying to grab victimhood to wear a cape. It's all bullshit.
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Yeah, it's disgusting. It's really, really fucking disgusting.
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And these whole rallies like, I'm really, really mad because the media is doing it all over again.
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This is all made up astroturf bullshit.
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We live through this with the tea party. Just ignore them.
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Every time they cover it and they do it as though it's like right-wing protesters instead of being like,
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these people are literally fucking astroturfed people trying to...
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Or people like Alex.
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It's not that many people, really.
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It's not, but they're making it seem like a shit ton.
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No matter what, it's too many.
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It's too many.
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And it's stupid.
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Very stupid.
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It's not that you should just ignore it, but I do think that maybe the coverage has been a little bit off.
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It's been bad.
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That's what I would agree with you on.
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It's been really bad.
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So Alex gets down to talking about his sales, right?
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Sure.
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And he wants you to know, look, my sales have never been about the virus, right?
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I sell my products, but it's not about the virus. It's about you need food because society is going to collapse.
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Sure.
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It's a hoax. And folks, I knew with China shutting down and what was coming, I said, you better get ready.
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You better boost your immune system. You better get food for the economy shutting down.
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And you should normally have your immune system boosted anyways.
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I'm very glad to get folks to get vitamins and minerals they need, plus it funds the operation.
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I'm totally transparent, but speak of this, I haven't even really plugged today.
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We have a new product in, ladies and gentlemen. Let me tell you about this.
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Alex, this was planned six months ago before this even started.
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Sure.
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You know, there are all these hand sanitizers that are toxic.
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Get the fuck out of here.
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With high quality organic alcohol and with essential oils.
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Alex is getting into the hand sanitizer game.
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God damn it. This has been planned for six months.
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Fuck you. How dare you?
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But look, dude, the issue is that no one has a good product.
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No one has that we've looked at an organic hand sanitizer that actually leaves your hands not oily, but not dry.
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What does that mean?
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It means they're not oily. They're not dry. They're healthy, Dan.
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Okay.
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That makes perfect sense. They're healthy.
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So they're doing the sales pitch for this hand sanitizer.
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Yeah.
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They get through with it. And then Alex is like, Owen, what's coming up on your show?
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What do you have coming up on the War Room today?
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Well, let me just say, I will be definitely talking about these new hand sanitizers.
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Oh, really?
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Because most of the time, you know, first of all, you can't even find any.
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But normally, you know, you try to squeeze it, right?
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And the whole like glob comes out and then you have too much and then it's a mess.
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I hate it.
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How has nobody done this before with a spray?
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With a spray. How come no one's done it?
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It's a spray? It's a spray hand sanitizer?
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Yeah, but spoiler alert, a whole lot of companies produce organic hand sanitizer in a spray bottle.
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Off the top of the head, you have Dr. Brauner's, EO, Vegamour, Aer, Primally Pure, and plenty of others.
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This is only new to someone who didn't know it existed. It's in no way an innovation.
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I looked at the bottles and the ingredients of Alex's hand sanitizers, Emmerich's Essentials.
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And I would bet just about anything I own that Alex is just private labeling Dr. Brauner's hand sanitizer.
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They're both packaged in almost identical two-ounce bottles and they have identical ingredients.
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Ethyl alcohol, water, essential oil, and glycerin.
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Dr. Brauner's sells hand sanitizer in both peppermint and lavender scents,
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but they also sell a number of other soap products with eucalyptus scents,
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which covers the three scents that Alex has hand sanitizer in.
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So it would be well within their ability as a business to create those three.
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Tentatively, I would guess that Alex has just entered into a reselling agreement with Dr. Brauner's
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and he wants to pretend that he's been developing this amazing hand sanitizer for six months,
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which I have no idea how he would even do that.
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He doesn't have a fucking lab.
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What are we talking about? Get out of here. That is too, too, absolutely...
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I had my best scientists working on this. My dentist father.
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That's not opaque. You know, the motivations behind that are very, very clear.
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Very. So this is the end of the third hour here.
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And it would be the end of the show, but Alex and Owen do a little bit at the beginning of the fourth hour.
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And this would be how the show ends, if you actually let the fourth hour host have the whole fourth hour.
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I really want to take a lot of phone calls. I got a lot of great guests coming up today, too.
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And you're going to announce that you're gay today.
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Oh my God.
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No, for David Brock.
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You know, I think David Brock.
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I don't even want to talk about these losers anymore, honestly.
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They're Nazi.
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Wow.
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They're Nazis.
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And he also said they're sexy.
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Yeah, so that's how we go out to break with a playground, childish insinuations that Owen is gay.
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What fun.
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What adults.
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It is surprising. I was amazed they made it this far without also belittling the queer community.
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That's a great idea.
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They do that plenty. And I've even heard Alex play around like calling Owen gay before.
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Just like, you're calling for war with China.
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Yeah. What, you can't have a little fun on the way, Dan?
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No, you can't.
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And it's not fun. It's childish bullshit and loaded in bigotry.
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Incredibly offensive.
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So anyway, they come back and Owen suggests that Alex put his career on the line.
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You know, Alex, they used to do career matches or retirement matches in the WWF, WWE.
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I think you should put your career on the line in a bare knuckle brawl, UFC style.
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Put your career on the line. All these people that want Alex Jones shut down.
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You can have a lineup. You'll fight them all in a row. Do it Royal Rumble style.
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They can keep coming over the ropes and until one of them puts you out.
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And that'll be it. You put your career on the line.
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Put your career on the line. All these people that want Alex Jones shut down.
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You can actually end his career. He'll put his career on the line.
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I'm ready to fight.
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Would you do that? Proceeds go to charity.
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Let's be serious, Owen. That's the paradox as we get so close to absolute martial law.
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Paradoxically under massive threat, I feel better than I've ever felt because I'm being true to myself.
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That's a completely unrelated thought.
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I would suggest pointless to put your career on the line in a physical fight.
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However, in a knowledge fight, would Alex debate a point in a formal debate?
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Like some point that he has actually like in a position where he can't yell.
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He can't just like overpower people.
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Like you can't just talk a mile a minute and throw out all these pointless pieces of information.
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Would he put his career on the line in a debate?
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Absolutely not. Of course not.
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And if he put it on the line in a physical fight and he lost, he wouldn't stick to it.
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No, of course not.
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That's all bullshit. But it does introduce an interesting thing.
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And that is that they're talking about the end of Alex's career.
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You don't have a retirement match when you're in the middle of your career.
Unknown Speaker (02:05:03.659)
That's what you do in order to retire.
Unknown Speaker (02:05:06.659)
Well, that's what I'm thinking right here.
Unknown Speaker (02:05:09.659)
Like Owen should sound more worried.
Unknown Speaker (02:05:12.659)
If Owen doesn't have all the information, then that would explain why he's very nonchalant here.
Unknown Speaker (02:05:18.659)
But Owen is not going to have a job.
Unknown Speaker (02:05:21.659)
If Alex goes down, it's not like Owen's going to take over Infowars and it's going to continue running.
Unknown Speaker (02:05:26.659)
That's not a thing.
Unknown Speaker (02:05:27.659)
It's not like Infowars is like CNN or something where it's like maybe the boss leaves and the institution stays.
Unknown Speaker (02:05:34.659)
Yeah, yeah, no. It's gone.
Unknown Speaker (02:05:36.659)
As goes Alex, so goes Infowars.
Unknown Speaker (02:05:38.659)
And it's not like Schroyer's going to get a job somewhere else.
Unknown Speaker (02:05:41.659)
The only way that Infowars survives past Alex is if Alex somehow gracefully exits with millions of dollars and a willingness to fund someone else's operation.
Unknown Speaker (02:05:52.659)
And I don't see that ever happening.
Unknown Speaker (02:05:53.659)
Yeah, especially considering that the way Alex might wind up leaving Infowars is going to leave Infowars bankrupt as well.
Unknown Speaker (02:06:00.659)
Actually, you know what? There is a way it could work.
Unknown Speaker (02:06:03.659)
But it would require Owen taking over and then taking a bunch of money from dark money places.
Unknown Speaker (02:06:10.659)
That is conceivable.
Unknown Speaker (02:06:12.659)
If one of these right-wing places wanted to pay millions of dollars to keep Infowars running, you could see that.
Unknown Speaker (02:06:19.659)
But it would fundamentally change probably some pieces of what the show is.
Unknown Speaker (02:06:24.659)
Infowars might be the only company that Spanfeller could run properly.
Unknown Speaker (02:06:29.659)
Maybe. So you have one last clip.
Unknown Speaker (02:06:31.659)
And when you're talking about a retirement match, you're not in the business of staying around for very long.
Unknown Speaker (02:06:37.659)
And Alex ends with a pretty doom sort of vibe.
Unknown Speaker (02:06:41.659)
And it is your funding. I sit there. It's money that allows us to have all the lawyers to hold off the deep state and stuff you don't even know about as long as possible.
Unknown Speaker (02:06:53.659)
And we weren't supposed to be on air by now. And it's just been money just blasted at the enemy and your prayers that's held them back.
Unknown Speaker (02:07:02.659)
So believe me, right now, it's always been about the victory. But now more than ever with a gun to my head, it is now 100%.
Unknown Speaker (02:07:09.659)
And I can't tell you about the stuff right now, but let's just say they've had the carrot and now they've got the stick.
Unknown Speaker (02:07:17.659)
And so that's where it is right now. And the White House knows about it.
Unknown Speaker (02:07:23.659)
And the White House is just cut off. They can only put out main messages and that's about it. They're cut off as well.
Unknown Speaker (02:07:30.659)
So they had the carrot, now they've got the stick. I just can't help but feel like there's something, like there's a shoe he knows is going to fall.
Unknown Speaker (02:07:37.659)
And we'll see. We'll see.
Unknown Speaker (02:07:40.659)
That means there is a stick.
Unknown Speaker (02:07:43.659)
Yeah, and I don't think he would be saying that about the Sandy Hook case because that's not until the end of the year if it's not even going to be postponed because of the coronavirus.
Unknown Speaker (02:07:54.659)
You could easily see that happening. So I don't know. There's some sort of immediate thing he refuses to discuss on air and there's only a few possibilities that that could be.
Unknown Speaker (02:08:03.659)
Man, this is... I really, really will be disappointed if he doesn't get taken down by this. Something. Sued.
Unknown Speaker (02:08:14.659)
If he escapes this one again, I'm going to feel really despondent.
Unknown Speaker (02:08:19.659)
You can't let yourself build too much assumption.
Unknown Speaker (02:08:23.659)
No, no, no. It is a little bit like, you know, you only have to win once. So you can lose and lose and lose and lose and lose, but if you win once, it's done.
Unknown Speaker (02:08:34.659)
But man, if he just keeps escaping this bullshit, I'm going to be real disappointed. That's a failure on so many people's backs, you know?
Unknown Speaker (02:08:42.659)
I don't know. I don't know. It's a situation where, like, probably we'll end this week and nothing will happen. But there's an outside chance that Alex could be fucked this week.
Unknown Speaker (02:08:56.659)
And, I mean, no matter what, he's not going to be on the air most of this week, probably. I would assume he's going to be talking to lawyers.
Unknown Speaker (02:09:07.659)
He's got business to do. He's got a lot of scrambling going on.
Unknown Speaker (02:09:09.659)
He's going to be on a work-cation or something. And so maybe we'll have some wacky Wednesday and Friday this week.
Unknown Speaker (02:09:15.659)
Or we'll have the best week of our lives.
Unknown Speaker (02:09:18.659)
That might be next week. We might have an emergency episode of the weekend. Anyway, Jordan, we'll be back. But until then, we have a website.
Unknown Speaker (02:09:25.659)
We do have a website. It's knowledgefight.com.
Unknown Speaker (02:09:27.659)
You bet. We're also on Twitter.
Unknown Speaker (02:09:29.659)
We are on Twitter. It's at knowledge underscore fight not go to bet Jordan.
Unknown Speaker (02:09:31.659)
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Unknown Speaker (02:09:39.659)
Yep. We'll be back. But until then, I'm Neo. I'm Leo. I'm DZX Clark. I'm Owen Troyer in a baby mask.
Unknown Speaker (02:09:44.659)
Andy in Kansas. You're on the air. Thanks for holding.
Unknown Speaker (02:09:46.659)
Hello, Alex. I'm a first name caller. I'm a huge fan. I love your work. I love you.
