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Damn and Jordan, I am sweating
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Andy and.
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Andy and Kansas.
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Andy and.
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Andy.
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It's time to pray.
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Andy and Kansas.
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You're on the air.
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Thanks for holding us.
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Hello Alex.
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I'm a victim caller.
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I'm a huge fan.
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I love your work.
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Knowledge Fight.
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Knowledge Fight.
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Knowledge Fight.
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I love you.
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Hey everybody.
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Welcome back to Knowledge Fight.
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I'm Dan.
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I'm Jordan.
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We're a couple dudes.
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Like to sit around, drink novelty beverages and talk a little bit about Alex Jones.
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Indeed we are Dan.
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Jordan.
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Dan.
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Jordan.
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Quick question.
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What up?
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Have you ever been to an art gallery?
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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I would assume most people have been to art galleries.
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I don't know.
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Maybe on a school trip or something.
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I'm sorry.
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I'm sorry.
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I don't mean like an art gallery.
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I mean like.
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I went to one with you.
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Your girlfriend's an artist.
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I know.
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No.
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Have you ever been to the Getty Museum?
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Like that kind of art gallery.
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I've probably been to the Getty Museum itself.
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A lot of family in California.
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Have you been to the Getty Museum?
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I've done a lot of touristy shit in California.
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A lot of stuff that I don't remember the specifics of.
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But yeah.
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I wouldn't be surprised at all if I've been to the literal Getty.
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Really?
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Yeah.
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But I've been to like the Field Museum here in Chicago.
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I've been to the aquarium.
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That's sort of a museum of fish.
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Is there any kind of particular artist that you appreciate?
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No.
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No.
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None.
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No.
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No.
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I don't like art at all.
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Nope.
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I don't like exact art and I appreciate those who appreciate it, but I also don't understand
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it.
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You don't understand it?
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No.
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Like visual art period?
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Yes.
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Like sculpting?
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I can look at it and think, that's cool, but that is about the depth of my understanding
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of it.
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Okay.
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There are things that pop my eyes, you know, like intrigue me to look at, but I don't understand
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why.
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I've tried to have people explain things to me about aesthetics and stuff like that, but
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it is completely foreign to me.
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It's like they're speaking another language.
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I have no idea.
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My brother has a lot of that.
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He's very into art and very, very talented with creating of art, like drawing and design
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and also really enjoys art itself.
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I just have none of it.
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I'm just, it's not.
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That's fascinating.
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Why do you think that is?
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I don't know.
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Okay.
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The end.
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I don't know.
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I don't, I honestly, I've thought about it over the course of my life and like I never
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was too into art as a younger person, but I tried to like take little courses on it
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here and there.
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Yeah.
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Tip your toe in there.
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See what's going on.
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Nah, nothing right over the head.
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That's crazy.
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Why?
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I don't know.
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Why do you shame me?
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I'm not shaming you.
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It reminds me.
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Somebody told me that like, Oh no, I don't really like music and I, it just boggles my
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mind whenever like there's so many cool shit into music.
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I know.
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I understand.
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Let them be.
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I don't like music.
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I don't understand it at all.
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I go back and forth on it on music or understanding, not liking it.
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I enjoy it in, in periods of my life, but I also really like the spoken word, like audio
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books and podcasts and stuff like that.
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So, you know, it's, it's, I, there are some people who just need music all the time and
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it's in their bones and stuff that I am aware like you, I assume.
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And uh, you know, for me, I'm sort of in the middle and I assume there's some people who
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even further to like, I don't even, I don't know, I don't know, it's just a bunch of beeps
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and boops.
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I don't know.
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I don't know.
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It's a big world.
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As always, as always, I'm on the extreme end of just about everything.
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Sure.
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It's a big world.
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I don't know too much about art, but I do know a lot about Alex Jones.
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And I know quite a bit about the former and nothing about the latter.
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And that's the podcast.
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Indeed.
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So Jordan, today we've got an interesting situation to go over and we'll get into all
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of it.
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But before we do, we got to take a little moment to say thank you to some people who
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have signed up and are supporting the show.
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So first maybe I think it might be a misspelling of Chris, but it's CT C T C H T I S so thank
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you so much.
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You are now policy wonk.
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I'm a policy wonk.
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Thank you next Bobby.
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Thank you so much.
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You're now a policy wonk.
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I'm a policy wonk next Sharon.
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Thank you so much.
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You're now policy wonk.
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I'm a policy wonk.
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Thanks Sharon.
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Next, Scott.
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Thank you so much.
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You are now a policy wonk.
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I'm a policy wonk.
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Thanks.
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Thanks, cat.
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Next, Jason.
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I'm a policy wonk. Thank you very much Jason. Thank you, Jason.
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Next, Liz, thank you so much. You are now a policy wonk.
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I'm a policy wonk. Thanks, Liz. Thank you Liz.
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Next, Matthew, thank you so much. You are now a policy wonk.
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I'm a policy wonk. Thanks Matthew. Mattie, thank you.
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Next, Off Harris in the Falklands. Thank you for being here so much. You are now a policy wonk.
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I'm a policy wonk. Thank you very much. Off Harris in the Falklands.
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Thank you so much. Next, and finally, I'd like to say thank you to a couple of people who
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signed up on an elevated level. We appreciate that very much.
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So first, Nathan W., thank you so much.
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You are now a technocrat.
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And I listened to the entire back catalog,
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so I really should cough up.
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Thank you so much.
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You are now a technocrat.
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I'm a policy wonk.
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Crikey, mate, that's fantastic.
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Have yourself a brew.
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How's your 401k doing, bro?
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All right, we gotta go full tilt boogie on this, Watson,
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all right?
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Let's just get down to business.
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We ain't making that money off that heroin.
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Why are you pimps so good?
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My neck is freakishly large.
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I declare info war on you.
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Thank you so much, Nathan M.
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Or Nathan W., excuse me.
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Ooh, upside down W.
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That's what happened.
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I saw the piece of paper from a different angle.
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Thank you, Nathan W. And thank you, too.
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I listened to the entire back catalog, so I should cough up.
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Yes, thank you very much.
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We appreciate it.
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If you're out there listening and you're thinking,
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hey, I enjoy the show, I'd like to support these gents, too,
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you can do that by going to our website, knowledgefight.com,
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clicking the button that says support the show,
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we would appreciate it.
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Yeah, absolutely.
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So Jordan, here's the situation that I find myself in.
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What's that?
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So for our second episode this week,
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I felt a desire to get back in and discuss Alex's return
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to the studio after his trip to CPAC.
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I knew he had some hot takes about the coronavirus.
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Apparently, he's trying to lure Sebastian Gorka
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into a sad publicity stunt fight.
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And he's getting more and more comfortable these days
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bragging about literally murdering people,
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as I've seen reported around.
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He's up to that again.
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Yep, yep.
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Cool.
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There he is.
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I wish that those headlines would say, again.
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But everyone learns anew at some point, and that's great.
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Hey, as long as everybody's getting there.
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Sure.
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If you get there, you get there.
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Alex Jones brags a lot about murder.
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He does it a lot.
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So Monday's show was four hours long
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and full of emotional trouble,
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and also just awful right-wing content.
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The prospect of this Friday episode
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being another long, dense affair
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just didn't seem like it would be right
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in terms of being a steward of our audience's well-being.
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I did not feel comfortable with that.
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And so what I decided to do was cover this past week's
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content of Alex's show on our episode for Monday.
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So on Monday, we'll be going over this past week
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and the chaos that's ensued on Alex's show.
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And today, I thought we could spend a little time
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doing something a little more fun and fancy-free.
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The tensions are high in the world,
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what with the growing public health situation,
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the Democratic primary,
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and countless other real-world stressors.
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So it seemed clear to me that if we're gonna survive,
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we need something as removed
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from real-world stressors as possible.
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And just our luck.
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At the end of last week,
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Carrie Cassidy over at Project Camelot
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released her 12th interview.
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Do not tell me it's the 12th interview.
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With murderer slash space hero, Mark Richards.
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Yay!
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And that means that even if we weren't
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in this sort of position
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where the tensions are really high,
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we would still need to drop everything.
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Absolutely. And cover this interview.
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Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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To get everyone up to speed
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who haven't heard all of our old episodes about this,
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Mark Richards has been in prison since the 80s,
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having been convicted of orchestrating
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the murder of an associate of his.
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It's very complicated to get into briefly,
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but we've been over it a bunch
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and Mark totally did that shit.
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Mark was also a little bit of a cult leader
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and he'd enlisted young men in his work crew
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to be knights of his new Camelot,
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which would come into its ultimate form
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when they used a laser to isolate Marine County
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from the rest of the United States,
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at which point it would become Mark's kingdom.
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Yes, they were surprisingly close to making that a reality.
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I don't know if they were.
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Since going to prison,
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Mark has married a woman named Joanne,
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who runs the Earth Defense Headquarters.
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I'm unclear on exactly what they do,
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other than sell Mark's writing
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and they book Joanne to speak at space weirdo conferences.
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Through Joanne,
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Mark has created an overly elaborate backstory
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aimed at building an absurdly heroic mythos for himself,
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as well as proving that he's innocent of the crime
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he's in jail for definitely committing.
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He is not innocent.
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As it turns out,
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he couldn't have been involved in the murder
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because he was off planet doing space mission at the time,
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case closed, dude is innocent.
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It does sound like he couldn't have done it.
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At some point, Joanne met Carrie Cassidy,
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who runs a YouTube channel
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where people lie to her about space adventures.
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Carrie interviewed Joanne about Mark's heroics
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and through this,
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Carrie ended up being welcomed to interview Mark in prison
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at Vacaville in person.
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From there, the rest is history.
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Carrie has interviewed Mark 12 times now
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and the stories he tells her
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range from standard conspiracy shit
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to the most outrageously fun nonsense I've ever heard.
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His sentient spacecraft Minerva
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has a delightful personality,
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but will not fly with anyone but Mark because of loyalties.
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Speaking of loyalties,
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the noble raptor aliens are viciously loyal
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to Mark personally to the point
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where he once had an affair with their princess,
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the raptor princess.
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That is true.
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He knew JFK as a child.
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He's met aliens ranging from the mercantile dogs
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to the spider leadership to the archeologist cats.
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Didn't you know Winston Churchill too?
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Or no, the Dutchman knew Winston Churchill.
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The Dutchman.
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His dad, Alice, the Dutchman.
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His dad is the Dutchman, yes.
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Sad story.
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I can't even remember half the dumb shit he said
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that we've covered on this show,
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but most of it's really funny,
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like how raptor aliens were featured in Jurassic Park
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and the Walking with Dinosaurs show
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and how raptors like to come to earth to go antiquing.
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Yeah, they do.
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It's amazing nonsense.
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Also, there's a 50-50 chance he's aware of us.
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Listeners have pointed out that in an early
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Mark Richards episode, we joked about how,
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if he's listening, the way to subtly signal to us
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was to tell Carrie about squid or octopus aliens,
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which he did do in the 11th interview.
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Maybe the 10th, one of the more recent ones,
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he did bring up octopus aliens.
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Okay, bad.
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It's inconclusive to me though,
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since there's a real good chance that octopus aliens
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were bound to show up at some point,
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but it could also be a wink, not clear.
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So officially, if you're listening, Mark,
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next time, tell Carrie that the octopus aliens
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are controlled by a benevolent AI.
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It's important that they're benevolent
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because you would expect an octopus to be evil.
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Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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That seems random enough for me to be able
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to make a conclusive judgment that there is absolutely.
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Is that or pick World Cup games.
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And if we get this signal from you,
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we will start feeding you messages.
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No, we will not.
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Yes, yeah.
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Absolutely not.
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This needs to be a two-way street.
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We need to start talking to Carrie Cassidy through him.
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No, as that would ruin the purity of the turf,
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as I've discussed.
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Same with me not calling Alex.
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Yes, yes.
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Can't get involved.
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Of course, of course.
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So anyway, Carrie just went back to see Mark
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and now it's time to see what there is to learn
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for about the real world from this professor slash murderer.
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Let's see what happens.
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Here's the introduction that follows a very standard course.
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Hi everyone.
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I'm Carrie Cassidy from Project Camelot
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and I'm here today to talk about my latest interview
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with Captain Mark Richards of the Secret Space Program
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called Total Recall 12 Space Command.
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So she always calls them Total Recall
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because she has to remember the interview
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and then repeat what he said later
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because they don't let her record it in prison
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because he's a murderer.
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But I had not heard any of these
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that have a subtitle, Space Command.
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I take it we're gonna be talking exclusively
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about Space Command?
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That's what you would think.
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Fair enough.
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It is not.
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Fair enough.
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So you might think like,
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I've seen shows where people interview murderers in prison.
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That happens.
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Netflix has a whole goddamn genre of show about that.
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Yeah, that happens a lot.
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Why won't they let Carrie do that?
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Yeah, it does seem like somebody is screwing with Carrie
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somewhere along the line.
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I've never heard her explain exactly
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what the game she's playing is.
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But in this 12th interview,
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she explains how she is allowed to even talk to Mark.
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What I always do is go to Solano Prison
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and I've been doing this interview now
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for around five years.
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And this is, again, the 12th interview.
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I am accompanied by his wife, Joanne Richards,
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who helps to facilitate the interview.
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And because I am not doing this as an official journalist,
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because journalists are denied from interviewing him
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and Oprah tried many years ago and was denied access.
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According to?
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So what I do is go in as a friend
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and I am not allowed to take a recording device
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of any kind.
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I end up getting a tiny pencil
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and I'm able to use that to do the interview.
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So good, it's not a crayon this time
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as it has been in other, I believe other installments.
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Yes, yes.
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What she's doing is she's defrauding the prison.
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Yes, yes.
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She is coming in there as a friend,
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taking interview notes and telling them
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she's not a journalist.
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Because if she was a journalist,
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she would be banned from entering the prison.
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She would not be allowed to speak to Mark, probably.
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Yeah, there's some sort of a rule.
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I'm not sure what it is.
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I have no idea how I would get to the bottom of this
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or if I even believe it necessarily,
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because it's all just coming from Mark.
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I don't believe Oprah tried to interview Mark.
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No.
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I don't believe that for a second.
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Maybe, I mean, she talks to people like Dr. Oz.
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Is there that much of a difference?
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Is there that much of a difference?
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Yeah, I don't know what her standards are.
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Maybe she would want to do some special interview, Mark.
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That is conce-
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I'm going to help you build that laser.
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That's conceivably possible at some point.
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Oprah might have been wanting to do some kind of a story
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on him being a murderer or something.
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I don't know.
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It seems unlikely that you'd want to interview him
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the same way that Carrie does.
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Yes, that does not seem likely.
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So yeah, cool.
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I hope that doesn't get back to the guards at Solano Prison.
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I hope that her saying that on her show
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doesn't end up resulting in her being barred from visiting Mark.
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That would be-
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That would be a tragic irony.
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That would be a tragic irony.
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I don't believe her for a second.
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No.
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I don't believe it either.
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So there's some stuff going on at Solano Prison in Vacaville
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that affected Mark's mood at the time of this interview.
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Basically, that prison had been on lockdown for the two weeks
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prior because of a killing in the prison.
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And Mark was quite tired this time when I interviewed him.
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Apparently, all the things going on
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has been quite draining over those few weeks.
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And so that's the kind of thing that does go on.
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It's possible he was also under attack,
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but he did not reveal anything about that.
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I'm going to leave that last part alone and just say,
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she's not making that up.
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On January 29th, 2020, I'm Dan, this is 2020,
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two inmates were murdered at Cal State Prison Solano,
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where Mark is incarcerated.
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The two attacks were separate, but all indications
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are that they were related.
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At 3.20 PM, two inmates attacked a lone guy
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in the general population yard.
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And then less than a minute later,
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another duo attacked another man in the yard.
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At this point, I can't find any reporting
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on an official explanation for the motive,
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but it's a pretty messed up turn of events.
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Violence at a prison is not that uncommon,
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but this sort of thing, like a pair of coordinated killings,
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I don't think that happens every day.
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I don't think that happens anywhere.
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I could see this making Mark a bit tired,
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since there's probably a bit of increased security protocol
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and whatnot.
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And you know what, I don't care much for Mark,
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and I like to laugh at his dumb stories.
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But this is a pretty unexamined piece
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of what life is like for people who are incarcerated.
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Mark had nothing to do with these killings,
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as far as anybody can tell.
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Obviously, I don't have any suspicion of that.
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Right, right, right.
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But because of them happening, they
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introduce all kinds of life stressors
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to do his day-to-day life.
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That's awful.
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I can't imagine not getting some sort of PTSD
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in some form from that.
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So yeah, that's fucked up.
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It's very tragic, and I feel bad for him
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on a human level for that.
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Absolutely.
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So Carrie has a big thing that she's into on this episode.
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And it actually is.
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I would assume it's Space Command.
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No.
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How is that possible?
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Everything is Space Command, man.
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OK, fair enough.
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All of this.
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Never mind, fair enough.
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You're right.
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So Carrie is into this story.
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And I've heard her talk about it in a couple of the interviews
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that I've listened to that we haven't covered,
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like when she went and talked to those magicians that
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were boring.
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How is that possible?
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So there is a UK-based UFO event called Rendlesham,
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the Rendlesham event.
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And she actually went to the UK.
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And that's when at least one of the magicians
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was a British dude.
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And she was interviewing him, and a lot of it
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had to do with Rendlesham.
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And so she's been getting into the case,
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trying to get to the bottom of this 1980 UK UFO sighting.
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And it turns out it might have been some trouble because
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of that.
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She might be having some consequences.
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I had been in England over the holidays,
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right before returning on January 12th.
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That night before, it was around 1130 at night.
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We nearly had a head-on with a black SUV Range Rover
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that was in a two-lane road and had come over to our lane
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and was headed straight for us.
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Raptors.
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We managed to avoid it at the last minute.
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The driver did not seem to realize they were on our side
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of the road at any time and actually
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appeared to be programmed.
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Uh-oh.
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Uh-oh.
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We got programmed people driving
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SUVs trying to run Kerry off the road.
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I just, it's just like with the, we're not sure
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if Mark was under attack.
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Everything is about you.
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Everything is about you.
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And this extends into so many areas of,
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even like there's the stuff we cover,
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like how many times was Roger Stone under attack
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back in the early day before he was arrested or anything?
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Like when he, like there was the polonium poisoning affair.
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That was the great.
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But that is even like, that's, you know,
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you forget about the like multiple times Alex
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tried to say someone tried to run Roger off the road.
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Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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Absolutely.
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This is, this is something that gets a lot of mileage
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in these worlds.
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Yep.
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It's completely unverifiable.
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Nope.
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Super scary.
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Absolutely.
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But if you believe it, it means that you're doing something
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that someone is afraid of.
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Exactly.
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So if you can get someone to believe the premise,
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you get them to buy the conclusion really easily.
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If the reptoids aren't trying to kill you,
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you're not working hard enough.
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Right.
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That's the truth.
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And you know what?
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You're working hard on something that's very scary
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and threatening to the powers that be,
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and that is Rendlesham.
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So I believe the SUV was headed for us as a kind of a warning,
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possibly because of my sudden interest
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in revisiting the Rendlesham Forest siding and landing that
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went on for several days.
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And I did ask Mark Richards about it in my interview.
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So Jill talked to him a little bit more about this later.
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But the basic story of the Rendlesham event
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is it was on December 26, 1980.
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And a security patrol saw some lights appearing
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to fall near Rendlesham Forest.
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They went towards the lights and claimed
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that they saw a glowing metallic object.
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An hour later, police arrived.
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They couldn't find any evidence of any of the things
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that the patrolmen claimed.
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They have seen nothing in terms of even like downed trees
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or anything.
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Yeah, that's super suspicious.
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Two days later, Lieutenant Colonel Charles Halt
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came to the site to check things out.
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And he reported seeing flashing lights in the distance,
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among a few other anomalies.
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One thing that's very helpful in this case, though,
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that's so absent in a lot of other ones,
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is that Halt kept very detailed notes from his visit
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to the forest and even made a tape of his findings,
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which you can find if you're interested.
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The Rendlesham Forest UFO sighting
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is a gigantic comedy of errors from 40 years ago
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that's been exaggerated and embellished
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by paranormal and conspiracy scammers.
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And the entire story of it is pretty well explained
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by people back in 1980 mistaking various things
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as proof of aliens.
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Carrie has recently, for some reason,
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become interested in reopening the Rendlesham files.
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And good for her.
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I hope she has fun.
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But there's no chance that any government agent, mind
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controlled in a black SUV, is going
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to try and run her off the road because she's doing so.
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I wanted to get into the whole thing about Rendlesham
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and really deconstruct it.
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But it's really simple.
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Here's what happened.
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There was an object in the sky, like a meteor,
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that came down near Rendlesham.
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It's documented around the same time that this thing happened.
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So the patrol people, on the night of December 26,
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very clearly saw what looked to be a fireball, basically.
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Because it broke into the sky, atmosphere
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explodes, the whole thing.
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I saw Armageddon.
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They go and try and examine it.
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Realize that they don't know where it came down.
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They see a flashing light in the distance.
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And they're like, oh my god, look at that thing flashing.
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They get all weirded out.
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The police come.
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They don't find any indications of a UFO landing
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or anything like that.
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Because of course not.
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Right.
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Two days later, this lieutenant colonel comes.
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And he starts poking around.
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They find these little bits of evidence, in quotes.
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One of them is little divots in the ground
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that they think are landing sites.
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I saw the pictures of these.
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They're very small.
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Tiny little aliens.
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They are animal digs.
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No, tiny little aliens.
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They are very small aliens with little tiny feet.
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No.
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OK, come on.
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He also ends up seeing lights in the distance.
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Uh-huh, I see.
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And he notes that they are flashing
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at a five-second interval.
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Yeah.
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Now, there happens to be a lighthouse exactly where those
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are.
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Where?
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I saw so many aliens whenever I was driving in Illinois
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one night.
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You look out off the side of the road.
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There's thousands of blinking red lights.
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Aliens.
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Got to be.
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So there is a lighthouse where this blinking light was.
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Now, this lieutenant colonel, Halt,
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he was like, his base where he was stationed,
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is a different place geographically
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than Rendlesham, Florida.
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It is to the north of it.
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So from his perspective, where he normally is,
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that lighthouse is to the southeast.
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But since he traveled south to go to Rendlesham Forest,
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it was straight to the east.
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So when he saw this light, he discounted the possibility
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that it was the lighthouse, because he
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was accustomed to seeing it from the southeast.
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So the perspective of it is complete.
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How do you not know that?
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And that's even present in his notes.
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He says that it's like the light is
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to the southeast, but it's not anymore since you've gone south.
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So all of the instances of things that people in 1980
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were taking as indications that there's aliens afoot
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and all of this, it's all very easily explained
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by little misunderstandings, thinking that rabbit diggings
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are a landing site.
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Obviously true.
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Right.
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It's a comically land.
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Well, in terms of these sorts of events,
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because there is a lot of documentation
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from the firsthand stuff, you look at it,
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it's like, oh, this is weak.
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This is bad.
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I like the idea of a guy not understanding that geography
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doesn't move with him, like no matter
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where he goes on the planet.
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He's like, well, obviously the lighthouse is to the southeast.
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Of course.
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I can kind of understand that not being first-in-chief,
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but then when someone brings it up, you've got to realize,
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like, oh, wait, that's, OK, that makes sense.
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The lighthouse is right over there.
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It's a triangle, I'm a right angle, gotcha, hypotenuse.
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I do the whole thing.
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So anyway, no one's going to kill
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Kerry for looking into this dumb.
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Ah, is the lieutenant colonel still alive?
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Second question, does he still own that black Range Rover?
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He was alive fairly recently.
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I believe, because I found some, he actually does believe
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it's aliens now.
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Well, yeah, of course.
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In direct contradiction of the notes.
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Right, right, right, right.
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Well, he's no longer a lieutenant colonel,
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I imagine.
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He's got to make money somehow.
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It's a weird thing.
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There's a lot of dumb theories about it.
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And there's actually a ton of rangey conspiracy about it.
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All right, all right.
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You got any good ones?
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No, I don't even care.
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OK.
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But anyway, it was just a lighthouse.
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That's the story of this show.
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Anyways, it was a fucking lighthouse, guys.
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So Kerry gets into talking about the old coronavirus.
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Sure, sure.
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Oh, man, I did not even think that we
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were going to get Mark Richards' opinion on the coronavirus.
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I'm not positive we do.
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Kerry has some thoughts, though.
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Never mind.
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So there's a big push not to, you know,
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push not to allow advertisers to have advertisements
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on alternative people that are talking about this subject.
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And therefore, I'm going to be using a silly sign in place
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of that word so that we can get this monetized
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so that I can still pay my rent and also
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still discuss the topic.
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So this is the kind of censorship
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going on on YouTube nowadays, and everyone is aware of it.
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So this is widely known.
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This isn't censorship.
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Kerry's holding up a sign that says coronavirus.
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Sure.
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Anyway, YouTube has a policy in place
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where they demonetize videos about topics that they
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determine to be sensitive.
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For instance, if there was just a mass shooting,
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videos covering that shooting will often be demonetized.
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And if you think about it for a second,
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this policy makes absolute sense.
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And it's probably one of the only compromises
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that the company can make to continue to exist and be
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marginally responsible.
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The goal is obviously to stop people
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from spreading misinformation, whether intentionally
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or just by way of sloppy work.
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After a shooting, you could easily pass along
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a misidentification of a suspect or erroneous early reports
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of multiple shooters, that kind of thing.
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And if you have a platform that's big enough,
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that can be a detriment to the public information base.
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In the case of the current coronavirus situation,
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it's really dangerous for people like Kerry
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to spread their views.
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And I base this off the fact that about two weeks ago,
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she released an interview about the coronavirus
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with Jim Humble, who happens to be the guy who invented
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the master mineral supplement.
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Oh, no.
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He sold MMS as a cure for everything from HIV
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to cancer to acne, but it was really just bleach.
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A lot of the QAnon Johnny-come-latelys,
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when you hear them advising people
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to drink bleach for medicinal reasons,
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they're relying on the foundation of Jim Humble's work.
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So if Kerry is going to do an interview with Jim Humble
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about the virus, you can imagine it's
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full of the sort of information that's not going to help
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anybody and may hurt people.
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So these people are treating bleach
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like the generic version of MMS is essentially what we're like.
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It's cheaper to buy bleach than it is to.
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Yeah, I think so.
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That's, that's.
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And maybe they just don't want Jim to get a cut or whatever.
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Yeah, exactly.
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I like it.
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Give it a fucking stick it to big pharma.
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That's what I'm saying.
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I haven't done enough digging into the QAnon side of this
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or even the sort of non QAnon but current batch
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of weirdos side of things.
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I don't even know.
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Some of them might actually even be promoting
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Jim's stuff themselves.
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It may just be like, hey, Jim, Jim figured it out.
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But so like you have people like Kerry
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and that's the kind of person that she's
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talking to about an actual public health
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situation that's bad.
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If you're YouTube, you want to discourage that.
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But you also probably don't want to just ban
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all talk about the virus.
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You probably don't want to even ban all irresponsible talk
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about the virus since that could have
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the effect of stifling content creators
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feelings about being able to make what they want.
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The perfect balance is really just to demonetize the subject.
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If you want to cover the virus, you're free to do so
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and YouTube won't censor you.
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However, if you're trying to spread misinformation
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for clicks, the demonetization serves
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as a demotivating factor.
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So you have less incentive to be sensational about a sensitive
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topic.
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It's a tough situation and there's almost certainly
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some good faith actors who have ended up
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getting their videos demonetized because of this rule.
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But were I in their shoes, I would kind of understand that.
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And that's really the only way to preserve free expression
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on YouTube while still catering to the advertisers that
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allow videos to be monetized in the first place.
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If constant demands are made for monetizations of videos
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where Kerry interviews a guy who wants you to drink bleach
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and YouTube goes along with that,
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it's only a matter of time before you're
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going to drive away all the big money advertising
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companies that make profiting off YouTube even possible.
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It's basically a killing the golden goose situation
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and it's probably a battle people like Kerry
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should realize it's not in their interest to fight.
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You're only going to end up screwing over the ability
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to make any money by insisting on making money on everything.
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It's a dime holding up a dollar.
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It's very stupid.
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Anyway, Kerry's mad about it.
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There shouldn't be a financial incentive to.
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I mean, you shouldn't profit off of a terrible tragedy.
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Like, it seems very simple.
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I agree, particularly in the immediate aftermath.
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Yeah, exactly.
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But I don't know where my feelings are on the whole.
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I think if I were creating an ideal world,
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we would have some sort of a way that you
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wouldn't be able to monetize.
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Like, let's say you're doing Sandy Hook conspiracy
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videos in 2020, right?
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I still think maybe there should be some thing in place
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where you can't monetize that.
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And maybe there is.
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I don't know.
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I don't use YouTube all that much as a creator or anything.
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So I have no idea.
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It is frustrating, though, to not be.
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Because I feel like you should be
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able to ban videos that tell you to drink bleach.
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That just feels like it shouldn't be that hard.
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And then you go back into that.
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And you're like, OK, well, now where's the line?
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And you're like, well, obviously, I
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don't know where the goddamn line is.
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But I just know you shouldn't be able to drink bleach.
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It seems simple.
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It's a difficult thing to figure out where exactly the line is.
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So anyway, Carrie's talking about the virus.
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And she predictably has a pretty similar theory to Alex,
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but is a little bit wilder.
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So there is a rollout of a step-by-step program related
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to decreasing populations.
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And the step one is triggered by 5G.
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Oh, I'm listening.
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And that rollout now appears to be
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having an added sort of complexity level that
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involves this rollout.
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So the two are really linked.
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And I've done another video on this
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that has been getting out there quite well.
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I can say the chemtrails and nano are also
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part of that concoction.
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So you've got chemtrails and 5G being combined with the virus.
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I mean, that's very similar to a lot of Alex conspiracies.
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The depopulation aspect of it is absolutely in play
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in Alex's theories.
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So all the aliens are basically like witches in Macbeth
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just throwing all of these different things in a cauldron
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trying to get all of humanity to die.
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Yeah, I think so.
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I think that Carrie will spell it out a little bit more
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later in the interview about exactly how
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the aliens play into it.
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But for now, it's 5G triggers things that are, yeah,
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that might be involved in chemtrails.
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Of course.
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She doesn't loop back to explain how chemtrails are involved.
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But they're always involved.
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Well, chemtrails are just there.
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So stage one is this 5G activation of stuff.
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And then Mark has some news about stage two.
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OK.
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This is a plan.
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There's also, according to Mark, the step two
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will be more Earth changes that are manmade
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and a set of droughts that are going
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to be creating limitations on resources, especially water
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and limitations on travel.
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So these are key items to keep in mind going forward.
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This is just fan fiction about the consequences of climate
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change.
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Yeah, I mean, that's boo.
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Boo.
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That's reasonable.
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Of course there's going to be droughts.
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And of course there's going to be manmade changes.
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We're there.
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Yeah, yeah, totally.
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She's just turning aliens into the driving factor behind it.
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The manmade part, she's not saying
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it's because of fossil fuels.
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Oh, no, of course not.
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And all that.
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She's saying it's aliens are directing humans to do this.
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Yes, of course.
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Yeah.
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However you get there, you've got to get there.
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No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no.
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Not in this case.
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Not in this case.
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Because in this case, the conclusion
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invalidates the correct thing that she's asserting.
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OK, so maybe if instead she said we
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need to switch to all renewable fuels in order
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to stick it to the aliens.
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I mean, yeah, that might be OK.
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OK.
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At least that would be productively dumb.
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So we get back to Rendlesham now.
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She's jumping all over the place.
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OK, gotcha.
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Earlier I was kind of expressing a little bit of confusion.
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Why is she deciding to reopen this cold case?
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I mean, really cold case.
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So regarding Rendlesham, we had a fascinating discussion.
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And I had received a psychic message
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telling me to revisit the case.
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It happened in 1980.
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A lot of the witnesses have started to change their stories,
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have been changing their stories,
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have been in conflict with each other,
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and are suspicious of each other.
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And there's a lot of evidence of mind control
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between the witnesses and among them.
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I don't know what the evidence of mind control is.
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That sounds more like evidence that some of them are lying.
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Yeah.
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So Jenny Randles is the person who first primarily covered
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the Rendlesham story in the press in the London Evening
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Standard and even wrote an early book about the event.
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Her works are largely credited with building
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some of the early hype surrounding
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the alleged sighting.
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But in 2011, she said, quote, while some puzzles remain,
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we can probably say that no unearthly craft were
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seen in Rendlesham Forest.
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Boo.
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We can also argue with confidence
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that the main focus of the events
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was a series of misperceptions of everyday things
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encountered in less than everyday circumstances.
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That's one person who changed their tune, but it's not recent.
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That's mind control.
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Lieutenant Colonel Charles Halt's story has also changed,
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but it changed to support the UFO view.
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He currently believes that a UFO did show up back in 1980,
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which, like I mentioned earlier, relies
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on him kind of negating a bunch of documented evidence
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that some of it he himself created.
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Yeah, but that's how you know it's de-mind control.
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He's un-mind controlled.
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Another person who changed their story is Jim Penniston, who's
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one of the patrolmen from the first night's affair.
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He now claims that he touched a UFO that night.
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Ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, lean in, buddy.
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Weirdly, that was never mentioned
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when he was initially interviewed about what
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happened around the same time.
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Seems like that would be the first thing you mentioned.
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Seems like he's changed his story.
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High on the list.
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So there seems to me to be two sorts of people
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who are changing their stories in this case.
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The first are people who were supportive of the UFO narrative
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initially, who changed their position based
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on evidence, an explanation of what was being misperceived.
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Mind control.
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The other are people who were initially skeptical,
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who have changed their position to believe in the UFO
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narrative without any real reason, any evidence,
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and sometimes needing to contradict actual evidence.
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De-mind control.
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If I were someone who was involved in this event,
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I would probably also view everyone else suspiciously.
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There are clearly some scammers in the mix, and I don't know.
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I don't know.
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Yeah, that's not good.
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He claims to have touched a UFO?
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That's fantastic.
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So there's a cover up going on here, obviously.
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Of course.
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Now, it's obvious that this cover up has
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to do with UFO in England.
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Yes.
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But did you know that it also has
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to do with our electoral system?
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It doesn't sound true.
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Now, regarding Rendlesham, there
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is a presence behind the scene of the usual suspects
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regarding mind control.
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And that is the names that I've got listed here.
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And they show up time and time again with regard to cover ups.
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And that includes the alien autopsy,
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the takedown of Richard Nixon, our president,
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back in those days.
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Of course.
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His Nixon president in 1980.
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Back in those days, he was.
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I understand that she's probably talking about prior
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to the Rendlesham affair.
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But yeah, I don't know if the Nixon impeachment
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was mind control, but apparently it is.
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What else could it have been?
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This guy, Mark Richards, and by virtue of their connection,
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Kerry is always right about everything.
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Naturally.
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So the cover up is mind control based.
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It extends to the alien autopsy and the Nixon impeachment.
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The tendrils are all over this thing.
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Through ways that are unclear.
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But it's all basically about magic.
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And these individuals are highly remote.
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Our remote viewers involved in remote viewing,
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involved in the origination, or putting together
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the protocols with Ingo Swann of the original remote viewing
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protocols.
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And this involved Scientology practices as well.
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So it's important to know that all of that
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is just information, a way of packaging information,
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a way of using your psychic abilities
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in a certain controlled way to access events
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and future past and present events, things going on
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that are what we call signal nonlocality and spooky action
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at a distance.
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These are all terms related to that.
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No, they're not.
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We'll get back to this.
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Spooky actions at a distance is a great expression.
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Well, that's quantum entanglement.
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Spooky actions at a distance.
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Yeah, it's what they call it.
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It's what they call it.
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I love it.
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It's great.
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And there's a lot of information and investigation
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that have been done around this.
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It also has been around from time immemorial,
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not under these names, but certainly practiced
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by dark magicians and light magicians
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everywhere, witches, warlocks, you name it, around the globe.
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You name it.
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Just for eons.
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So it's important to know this.
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This is not new.
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It has simply been put into a kind of a protocol,
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and Scientology has also been instrumental.
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So your theory from a past Mark Richards, Carrie Cassidy
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episode of her having some involvement in Scientology
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might be sounding a little less crazy now.
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So apparently Scientology is just
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a formulation of the making yourself
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able to use magical powers that witches and warlocks,
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you name it, have been using forever.
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That's not good.
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I mean, I do like the idea that it's OK now to just be like,
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well, Elrond got some stuff right, duh.
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He does know how to use magic.
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Right.
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Sure.
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He got that elemental with him, and they fucking rolled out.
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That's the real issue here.
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They're talking about the E-meter.
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That's totally what she's talking about.
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She's like, we're making people clear,
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but that's not Elrond's thing.
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That's actually what fucking John D.
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did in the 1600s or whatever.
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What if I were to tell you that instead of allowing you
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to use magic, it's a blackmail racket?
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What is blackmail but black magic, dad?
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Certainly.
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So Carrie's talking here about Rendlesham,
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and we get some of Mark's perspective on it.
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And I don't think he's correct.
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Mark said that the reason there's
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such a cover-up of the Rendlesham case
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is that there were over 200 people affected
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in the radius of the incidents, that the aliens were
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attempting to land.
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This had been their second or third attempt
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to make contact with humans.
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What happened the first couple of times?
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And in this landing attempt, they
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used telepathy to communicate with around 200 people.
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He said there were both civilians
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and military in attendance.
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And that lends itself to the idea
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that the landing was prearranged.
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And this also went on over a period of eight days,
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as opposed to the three that are usually talked about.
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This is all made up.
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No, no, come on.
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It's alien Hanukkah, Dan.
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What's so fun, when there is a cover-up,
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you could just say anything.
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Evidence doesn't need to match anything,
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because there's a cover-up.
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And you can see this in the, like, none of this next clip
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means a fucking thing.
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When the aliens projected the images into the humans' minds,
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a lot of the humans couldn't handle it.
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What they were projecting were images not only of themselves,
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but also of other races they've encountered,
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and also other planets altogether.
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And this sort of package of telepathic information
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freaked the Americans and the British
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and all those in attendance out.
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I think Mark's been reading Lovecraft.
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Yeah.
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I really just think this is, like, yeah.
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This is just, like, Shadow out of Time.
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Or this is pretty similar to a couple of Lovecraft stories.
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I just like it whenever he throws out
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some details that make things a lot more complicated.
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Like, if this is their second or third time
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trying to contact us, don't they already
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know that their psychic abilities fuck people up?
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Yeah.
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What are you guys doing?
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The aliens, which Carrie actually speculates later
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that they're the spider leadership,
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the spiders were involved in this.
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I thought they were going to be rabbit people.
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That's the only thing that makes sense to me.
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Oh, that would explain the holes.
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Yeah, exactly.
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That's the only thing that makes sense to me.
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So yeah, the spiders are like, all right, guys, look.
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Last time, this really did not go well.
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People freaked the fuck out.
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Let's try it again.
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Yep.
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Guys, I propose we don't change a thing.
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No tweaks needed.
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It was probably just those people's fault.
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Different people work differently.
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It'd be great.
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Although that does humanize the aliens quite a bit.
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And they're not humans.
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They're spiders.
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Exactly.
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Most likely, according to Carrie's theory.
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So a bunch of people freaked out, couldn't handle it,
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because they saw a bunch of alien beings in their head,
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which again, classic Lovecraft.
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Yeah, yeah.
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The idea that you catch an eldritch glimpse
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of another world and it drives you mad.
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Yes, yeah, yeah, yeah.
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The human mind can't handle it.
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But you might think, OK, then what happened with them?
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Wouldn't they still be raving mad people throughout Rendlesham?
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No.
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Well, turns out Mark might have also seen Men in Black.
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A lot of the humans never recovered.
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Their memories were wiped afterwards,
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I guess through military mind control.
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Sure.
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Attempts were made in that regard.
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Some of those humans lost their minds and never recovered.
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Then there was also an exchange of fire,
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because when there was an overload from the aliens
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to the humans, the humans reacted.
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And then the aliens reacted, because the humans reacted.
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Sure.
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There was an emotional overload that
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went to these artificial intelligence
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that the aliens brought with them,
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who then reacted to the overload of emotional energy.
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And apparently, one side or the other opened fire.
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I'm not sure which.
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There was friendly fire, as well, and individuals.
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Well, they were all in a circle.
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This is mad, Mark.
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Again, adding that little detail of this
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is their second or third time just
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makes that so much better.
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Afterwards, if you're the spider that was in charge of this,
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you're getting called into a meeting with your boss like,
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hey, hey, you should know better.
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How'd you let this happen?
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This is an event.
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This is the second or third time.
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So that means, I thought before it was just
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the humans got fucked up, now I know
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that we're creating a feedback loop where everybody explodes.
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The aliens, there's a contagious gunfire.
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And the aliens have to be using human weapons,
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or else it would leave evidence of alien weapon
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discharges all over the place.
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Of course.
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And then because the aliens and the humans
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are both in this feedback loop, the AI gets triggered.
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There's an emotional overload.
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Holy shit, yeah.
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This is a quagmire.
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Guys, this was a disaster the first time.
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I've got to say that maybe it was just
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we landed in the wrong spot.
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We got to go to the UK, you idiot.
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I just pictured this spider going in to see his boss.
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And dude's just like, you're so fired.
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You are so fired.
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We have to do a 40 year cover up about this now.
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Do you understand?
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Oh, that's really fucking up at your job.
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That really is fucking up at your job.
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Totally.
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Oh, back when I worked at Groupon,
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I got a price wrong on one of the deals.
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And that was like a huge, huge mistake
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that I ended up having to get in trouble for.
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It all worked out OK, but it was a big chaotic day.
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I can't imagine if I was that spider.
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Holy shit.
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I wouldn't recommend it, no.
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So anyway, none of that is real.
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Thank you.
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Thanks for reminding me.
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But actually, it might be because Mark met a guy.
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Mark also said he has met a man near Salinas, California,
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who was an MP at the time.
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It was in attendance on the Rendlesham meeting and landing.
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And he said he's never regained his memories completely,
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but lost his mind and never recovered from that either.
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And this was covered up in a huge way.
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All right, that makes sense.
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I love this type of storytelling.
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It's my favorite type of storytelling.
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Have you ever seen The Magicians, the sci-fi show?
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No, I have not.
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I will guarantee Carrie has.
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But this is my favorite form of storytelling.
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Introduce a problem, and then immediately
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know the guy who can solve it.
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Zero time difference between them.
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Just like, hey, I don't know if this is true or not.
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Well, guess what?
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I know a guy.
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The end.
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It's perfect.
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Well, and also, one of the things
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I have a little bit of a problem with here
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is that Mark committed that murder in 1982
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and went to prison in 1984.
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Off planet.
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Right.
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Here's the thing.
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That event took place in December 1980.
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So if there was a former MP who was there, who lost his mind,
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is a brief window.
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Well, he lost his mind.
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Because Mark's been in prison since 1984.
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If he met this guy in Salinas, it
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has to be that this guy was an MP, lost his mind,
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went to California, was wandering.
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Yes.
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Immediately.
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The window is small.
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First thing that happened.
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Unless, of course, astral travel,
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spooky action over distance.
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Sure, absolutely.
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I don't buy this.
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Anyway, so the coronavirus, according to Kerry and Mark,
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is a depopulation plan.
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Of course.
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And we know this.
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I don't believe it.
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We just know it.
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Well, Mark knows this.
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Many months prior to this whole occurrence and breakout
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of this so-called virus, basically, there
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was a plan, according to Mark, to eliminate
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500 million of Chinese.
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Chinese, this was their plan.
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This was leaked to Mark and, I guess, a certain group
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that he works with in the military.
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Really?
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And they were going to try to dissuade China
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of going down this path.
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Obviously, they failed.
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Important points.
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So-called virus.
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Yeah, I love so-called virus.
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I love it.
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All right.
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Second, it was leaked to Mark?
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Yep, by the people he works with in the military.
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Sure, it was.
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But you also see similarities between her narrative
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and Alex's narrative.
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In terms of China wanting to depopulate,
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there was a Chinese plan.
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All of this is very closely in line
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with a lot of the things that are the underpinnings of,
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up till this point at least, Alex's conspiracy narrative
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about this, which is weird.
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Yeah.
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Weird.
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I immensely enjoy the so-called.
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You can put that in front of anything,
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and everybody's like, oh, really?
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It's kind of just being an asshole.
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Yeah, so here we see another similarity
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between her view of this and Alex.
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There's no doubt that this version is a bioweapon.
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It's unstable.
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It will mutate.
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And it is triggered as well by 5G.
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And Mark was not clear on whether that was the case.
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A lot of investigation has been done recently.
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So here you see a similarity and a kind of difference.
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Because Alex, as far as I've heard,
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hasn't committed to the 5G necessarily being involved.
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Although, I have heard at least a caller make that point.
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He didn't push back on it.
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So it's entertained on Alex's show, at least.
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But you have a fuller version here of it is a bioweapon.
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It's triggered by 5G.
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They're interconnected.
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Also at the end there, you hear, this is just Carrie.
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Mark didn't even say that.
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Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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This is supposed to be about her interview with Mark.
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And she's saying he didn't say this.
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You know what?
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So far, I think she knows something.
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And that is Mark was not having a good day.
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So he's not bringing the heat.
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He's not bringing the heat this time.
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I'm not hearing the heat out of it.
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She said he said he just didn't know.
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He's supposed to wink.
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He's supposed to wink notingly or something like that.
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She just gave me a, Mark doesn't know.
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So this next clip is kind of where my brain just was like,
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I don't even know what to do.
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I stared at my computer for like five minutes
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after hearing this.
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I was just like, I don't know what's going on.
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You got mind control.
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There's evidence even in the documentation behind 5G saying
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that it will, that oxygen is actually, it attracts,
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oxygen attracts 5G.
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Somehow there's some kind of relationship
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there between the frequencies of 5G and oxygen.
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And that as a consequence, humans around it
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will have trouble breathing.
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I just didn't know.
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I don't know what to do.
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I don't know what to do.
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Oxygen attracts 5G.
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5G attracts oxygen.
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I don't know what's going on.
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That's the kind of thing that makes me want
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to just hide in the closet.
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Oxygen attracts 5G.
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I don't, I can't, I can't, I can't do this.
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No, no.
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When somebody says oxygen attracts 5G,
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you stop everything and you listen to them.
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You listen to them as soon as they can.
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Especially when they mumble through it very,
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very non-specifically.
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Very convincingly.
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Yeah.
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You have oxygen to attract.
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How do you think oxygen?
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Give me any kind of reasonable way
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that oxygen could attract 5G.
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Well, you see oxygen, what is it?
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Right?
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Do you mean that literally or is that like a, what is oxygen?
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Give me the chemical.
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What do you mean the chemical compound of oxygen?
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Oxygen.
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It's O2.
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Yes, I understand.
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The oxygen molecules are bonded to each other.
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There's a free electron.
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I have no idea.
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All right.
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So we're dealing with an isotope of oxygen.
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Maybe.
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I don't know.
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I don't know.
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I hear stuff like that and I just, I almost get into like,
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trance.
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Yeah.
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No.
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I just don't understand how you can say that.
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Yeah.
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So there's a lot of people who have
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got the coronavirus, COVID-19.
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There's a lot of people who, particularly in China,
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there's large numbers of people who
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have passed away because of complications and the pneumonia
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and what have you.
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Carrie would say that this is not true.
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And in fact, there's something else going on.
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So as of February 16th, the numbers Mark had was 100,000.
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Humans were involved.
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He said 30% had died, 30% were infected,
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and 40% were taken off world and shipped to other planets.
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Ooh, that's a lot.
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By the reptilians for food and sex slaves and so forth.
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OK.
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Wait, wait, wait.
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Does the virus make them easier to digest?
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No, it's a cover.
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It's a cover for the raptors, or reptilians, excuse me,
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to take 40% of 100,000, so 40,000 people off planet
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to fuck and eat.
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Yeah.
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OK.
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That seems like a lot of work.
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It's frustrating.
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That seems like a lot of work.
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Right.
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Considering they could just, I don't know,
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whatever they do all the time.
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Aren't they doing this all the time, like in wars?
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And any time there's like an earthquake,
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isn't that cover for aliens taking people to fuck and eat?
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Yeah, you know.
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You don't need to do, ugh.
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You go, look, you know, sometimes you
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order the same meal at a bunch of different restaurants.
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You go for the atmosphere, you know.
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Sometimes you need to get that food in a different way.
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You know, like maybe this is their version
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of going to a tiki-themed hut.
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Sure, sometimes you order out.
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Sometimes you want to walk to the store to pick it up.
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Yeah, sure, sure.
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It's different moods.
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Yeah.
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That's very stupid.
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So it turns out there's a lot going on.
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And what it has to do with, on a grander level,
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is aliens taking over the planet.
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And I started to hear a lot of things
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that are very similar to when Alex talks about what's
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at the bottom of the rabbit hole.
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Sure.
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When he starts talking about the evil demonic spirits that
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are behind the globalists.
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Right, which are totally real, and they are spirits,
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and they are not aliens, Dan.
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Aliens are silly.
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Well, it seems to me that there's
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a lot of similarities between the way
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that Carrie talks about the Draco and the reptilian.
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Sure.
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And Alex talks about the demons that
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are behind the globalists.
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Right.
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We are fighting a battle here on planet Earth
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against their interference here on the planet,
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as well as their plans to terraform this planet.
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So none of this is really actually all that new.
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The added element, of course, of 5G
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has escalated the symptoms and the situation.
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Because it's attracting too much oxygen.
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The roll out of chemtrails, the implantation of nano
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in the chemtrails and in our bodies
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is all part of the agenda.
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The push to make a transhuman agenda
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and also change the environment here on planet Earth
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to make it a more methane-like environment.
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All of this has been covered by Project Camelot
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in my interviews, in my presentations for many years.
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The transhumanist agenda is something
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that Alex talks about a whole lot
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as being a way to make a world where these demonic forces can,
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I don't know.
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Yeah, if she dragged drag queen story hour into this,
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it'd be like, oh, we just got bingo.
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You nailed it.
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Yeah.
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And with the terraforming the planet,
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Alex talks all the time about how we're actually
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carbon starved.
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Oh, we're trying.
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The globalists are trying to change the environment.
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Whenever he gets really grasping,
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he'll pull out childhood zend and how the aliens
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and childhood zend needed to create
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the environment in a different way for them
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to be able to exist.
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This is all very similar to just pulling things
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from probably the same sci-fi sources
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and just packaging them in different ways
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in order to either push a paranormal conspiracy
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world or a political conspiracy world.
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And I think people should recognize
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that when they're being conned by Alex,
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it might as well be buying into Carrie's shit
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because it's the same level of reasonability.
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Yeah, we said one recently.
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It's just like the only difference between those
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is your flavor of sci-fi source material.
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Yep.
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And it just goes on.
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I mean, the similarities are very clear.
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So reptilians in Draco are assisting China
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with their population reduction plans.
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According to Mark, China doesn't need help from the West
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to eliminate population, and they
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are perfectly capable of doing this on their own.
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So anyone who thinks that China is
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the victim in this scenario is wrong.
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Boo.
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I mean, taking aside that kind of callous and shitty
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perspective, you replaced Draco and reptilian with globalists
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there at the beginning.
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Same thing.
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The sentence, the globalists are helping China
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with population reduction very easily
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comes out of Alex's mouth, very easily.
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Yep.
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It's all the same shit.
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Yep.
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So Carrie will tell you that some opportunists are out there,
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and they're trying to use the coronavirus
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for their own purposes.
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Maybe to get more attention to your videos
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that are monetized on YouTube.
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Or maybe to sell food buckets.
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Sure.
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That's not what she's talking about.
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Something wild.
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That's not what she's talking about.
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Something unreasonable.
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It's other sorts of opportunists.
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There are opportunists out there that
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are taking advantage of this rollout of, obviously,
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this and more, are basically using
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the weaponized and mutation of it to attack their own people.
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It is no coincidence that the highest rates of CV
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are also showing up around the world in places
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where 5G has been installed.
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There's a problem with this argument that Carrie's making,
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and that's that it's not really possible to trace
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a one-to-one relationship between coronavirus cases
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and availability of 5G coverage.
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One glaring example of this is that there is a particularly
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bad outbreak in Iran.
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According to Press TV, there is no 5G program in Iran
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as of February 13, 2020, but there are plans in place
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to begin launching one in the coming Persian calendar
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year, which just began this month.
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So that kind of doesn't make sense for Carrie's argument.
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South Korea is another country with a ton
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of cases of coronavirus, but this, too,
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is an interesting study for the 5G argument.
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The largest number of cases are in the area of Daegu, which
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does have 5G coverage.
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But the capital, Seoul, also has a very robust 5G network
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in place, and it has relatively few cases of the virus.
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There doesn't seem to be a determinative factor here.
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And given the kinds of data points you see,
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it seems far more likely that there's something else,
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another variable at play that Carrie
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is ignoring in order to push her 5G conspiracy paranoia.
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It makes perfect sense, OK?
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Iran is trying to roll out this 5G technology,
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and then it's like an oil spill.
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Some of the 5G got out before they were ready for it,
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and so that's why there are so many cases there.
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Same thing with Seoul.
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It's just contained better, whereas Daegu, they
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have a terrible 5G containment system,
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getting all that oxygen going around.
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Everybody's screwed.
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Similarly, Italy has had a lot of cases of the virus.
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Sorry, my bad.
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But they only have partial 5G coverage in select cities.
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In 2019, they launched 5G in Milan, Turin, and Bologna,
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which are all cities that have had some relevant coronavirus
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activity.
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But the problem is they also launched 5G
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in Rome and Naples, which have seen relatively very
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little virus activity.
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The next country with the most cases is Germany,
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and there is currently no 5G network in Germany.
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There may be a few stray antennas around the country
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that are experimenting with implementation,
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but there's nothing you would call 5G coverage.
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There are currently wireless companies making bids
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to build out, and according to an article in January
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from Dutch Well, the whole thing is in its infancy.
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A rep for Telefonica Germany was quoted as saying, quote,
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by the end of 2021, the company wants
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to offer 5G in the five largest German cities.
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And by 2022, it wants to expand to the 30 biggest cities.
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All right, well, we know exactly when Germany is going to fall.
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So the next hardest hit country is France,
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and they too are in the earliest stages of 5G deployment.
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It's easy to see China and South Korea being hit very hard
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by this outbreak and say, those countries are
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on the forefront of 5G, so these things must be connected.
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But that kind of thinking requires completely ignoring
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a ton of other variables and factors,
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which is kind of the Project Camelot specialty.
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When you look at the actual country,
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it's all good and well and fun to say the countries that
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are hit the most are the ones that rolled out 5G.
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It's just it doesn't match the reality.
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So you're wrong.
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That's just wrong.
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They're not good with nuance or variable.
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Like, it's the same way that she described.
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It feels good.
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Yeah, well, it's the same way that she described,
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like, in that bullshit, callous, awful clip where she's like,
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oh, well, the Chinese have no problem killing themselves,
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so they're not victims here.
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And it's like, at no point in time
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does she accept that there's a difference
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between Chinese people.
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Like, Chinese people are people.
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Like, she treats them the same way
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that she treats the alien races of like, all draco do this,
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so that means in the same way, all Chinese people do this.
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And it's not just their leadership
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killing them or whatever.
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It's them all doing it to themselves.
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Yeah, that's the essentialist argument that,
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or not argument, perspective that she
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has about classes of folk.
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And it's fucked up.
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Yeah, it's very weird and unfortunate and dumb.
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So to get back to more Alex Jones connections,
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in this next clip, she discusses how humans are,
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there's a plan in place that's moving forward
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to make humans part AI, which is something
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that Alex talks about a lot.
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At any rate, we talked about that humans
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are slated to become partially AI, a transhumanist species
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at this time, although Mark feels
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that the transhumanist agenda will not
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be allowed to happen because he believes
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there is enough military men like himself
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that are against it.
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And the biggest issue is they cannot tell exactly when we
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move from being AI, or from being human, to being AI.
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And there's a point at which you become
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more AI than you become human, obviously.
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This is a philosophical argument that I'm not positive
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she and Mark had.
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I think they've got this one.
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I mean, the humans are slated to become part AI,
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but it's probably not going to work
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because there is a human resistance
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within the military is classic Alex.
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That is very, very, very Alex.
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It's going to be a counter coup that they
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need to get the coup taken care of,
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and that's how we're going to get rid of 5G, or partial AI,
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or whatever it is you like.
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Something.
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Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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So it turns out, dracos, bad news.
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Bad news, those dracos.
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No good.
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They're fighting the raptors in space.
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Right.
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And it turns out that a lot of the things that
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happen on Earth are actually part of that battle.
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So he said that there's a Draco battle in the Orion galaxy,
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and a lot of what has been happening on Earth
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has to do with that battle.
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In that battle, the draco are fighting with the raptors,
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and the raptors have recruited 1 million humans
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who are fighting with them against the draco.
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At the same time, the draco and reptilians,
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the reptilians report to the draco,
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are working with China in order to distract the raptors here
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on Earth, and occupy them, and to take their attention away
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from here on Earth, and to get them
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to fight in this battle in the Orion galaxy,
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and so that they can take over Earth.
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So it's a takeover scenario.
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This is a kind of battle going on
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between what we call good and evil,
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but it's really a transhumanist agenda in the end.
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Hey, Kerry, I got to go.
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Oh, man.
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Oh, man.
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I got to go.
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Oh, boy.
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Yeah, I hear stuff like that.
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I was like, OK.
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I like the.
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Nothing I can do with that.
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Just going to let you put that out there.
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I love the needs.
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I love whenever they have specific needs.
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Of course, the raptors need 1 million humans.
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The exact number.
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It's like a child wrote this.
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No, it's Dr. Evil.
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It's that kind of shit.
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You don't know how many people are a lot of people.
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Also, I feel like this plan is self-contradictory.
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So there's a pre-existing war between the dracos
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and the raptors that is in space.
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Can you please take notes?
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I will take notes.
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I'm going to try and walk through this.
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I'm going to get my partial A.I. speed on this one.
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Yep.
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So Draco, fighting raptors in space.
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Always.
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Battle of good and evil.
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So the draco are coming to Earth and using the Chinese
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in order to distract the raptors because they
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want to distract them from the battle in space.
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Right, it's a fate.
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Right, in order to lure the raptor forces here
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so they can have success in space.
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But then she says that it's a plan to take over Earth.
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But it seems like Earth is really
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the distraction for the Orion space battle.
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What is actually going on here?
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Earth seems to not be important, but then ultimately it
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seems like she's saying that it's the ultimate goal.
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Well, I mean, I think it's a lot like how in World War II
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you would see bases go back and forth.
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You would see that.
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Like one, like the Germans would take over this space,
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but what it was was a fate to get the French over there
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and then they retreat from that base
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and then go take over another one.
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And that's why they were enlisted
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to fight with the raptors.
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They were so good at planning, Dan.
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But Jordan, that base that they used as a fate
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was not important.
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No.
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That's Earth.
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Yes.
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I think that means that we're not important in this scenario.
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But still, Carrie has to make us the most important
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because it's narcissism.
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We're either bait or we're the heroes.
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One of the two can't really be both.
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So anyway, we get back to similarities with Alex.
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And all I hear whenever I listen to this now
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is just such a stark contact between the evil force
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behind the globalists and the Draco.
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So almost one to one.
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There is a relationship between the Draco and reptilians
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and the Grace who report to them,
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as well as what's called their kind of package
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together in a terminology called the Luciferian alliance.
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They feed on humans and, obviously, our blood.
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So they drink our blood.
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And they're Luciferian.
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There's the Satanism that's behind the globalists.
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It's all exactly the same shit.
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So there is a race that used to be around called the Anunnaki.
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And they were a humanoid species.
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And now they're helping with the bad guys, which
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makes them the globalists.
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Oh, so the Anunnaki are helping the Draco now?
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Yes.
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OK, I got you.
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Which makes them the globalists in this scenario.
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The humans that are doing the bidding, or the humanoid,
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or whatever, they're doing the bidding of the Draco evil force.
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It's also significant that, as I've said before,
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that the Anunnaki were taken over also by this reptilian
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agenda and by the Draco.
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And so what you have at this time
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is a Draco-Anunnaki hybrid race.
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And this is often where Anunnaki are considered
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or thought to be reptilian, when in reality, they
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are a humanoid species that were taken over
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by the Draco many eons ago.
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And the Draco are helping China to obtain
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their goal of eliminating a certain portion
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of their population at this time.
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So there is a sense that we have invaders at the gates.
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Always.
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Always.
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Always invaders.
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So you've got the Anunnaki, who are humanoids,
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who are doing the bidding of the Dracos.
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And they're helping China.
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It's all the same.
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I do see, like, here's what I see going on with this,
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is like, when the Protocols of the Elders of Zion was written,
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there was a committee there.
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And they were all pitching ideas for what
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it was they were doing.
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And one guy was just like, hey, I
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know we're talking about Jews, but what if it was aliens?
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And they were like, get this guy the fuck out of here.
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And he was like, I'm going to start my own group.
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And that was David Icke's grandfather.
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Exactly, and here we are.
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Right.
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So we'll get back to some of this weird shit.
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But it has to be interrupted by a claim
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that I just can't imagine is true.
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OK.
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There's also, I just want to highlight,
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I used to work as a contractor in the area of media
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at JPL, Jet Propulsion Lab.
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And there's a very old-fashioned phone system
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that I became aware of that they keep operational.
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And obviously, this is analog and basically, I guess,
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in the event of an AI takeover.
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I don't think I believe Carrie worked even
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as a contractor for the Jet Propulsion Laboratory.
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Since 1958, JPL has been owned and operated by NASA.
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So at any point that she could have possibly been there,
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she would have been employed by NASA.
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I find this difficult to believe.
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But then again, a lot of really strange contract employment
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does happen.
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It's not impossible to me, but I find this weird.
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Yeah, I don't like it.
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I don't like it.
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I don't buy it.
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I don't buy it, but that does have
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the sound of such a tossed off fact
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that there's something behind it.
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I feel like it would have come up a lot more in the past.
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Well, that's true.
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But another reason I find this hard to believe
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is that JPL offers a ton of fellowships and internships
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for students looking to build up their resumes,
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given that it's actually also part of the California Institute
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of Technology.
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I would assume that whatever media contract work they would
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have, like hired Carrie for, could have easily
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been handled by a Caltech student.
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But I have no idea.
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I'd be interested to know more about her supposed entry
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in this resume.
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Even if she did contract there for a bit,
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I have no reason to believe that it gave her access
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to any inside information.
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For instance, that little bit of trivia about the phone,
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she could have easily gotten that from a tour
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of the facility, which are offered
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to folks who make reservations, or for what
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they used to hold open houses on a regular basis.
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Oh, maybe she means she gave tours.
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No, I doubt it.
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OK.
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If what she's saying about them using an old phone system
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is even accurate, there are other explanations
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for why that would be the case.
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She's arguing that it's because of an AI takeover
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that they're afraid of.
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But what about the idea that there
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might be areas of the lab that are engaged in very
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precise measurements that could be thrown off
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by electronic signatures from mobile phones
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or wireless signals?
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I have no idea if that is the case,
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but off the top of my head, it's a possible explanation
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for why a super high-tech lab might rely on low-tech
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strategies for phones.
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Direct line to Batman, obviously.
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It's completely conceivable.
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Yeah.
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The direct line to Batman?
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No.
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Oh, damn it.
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Now, we get into a weird theory.
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OK.
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This ends up being a rationalization
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for why Trump is closing the border,
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or wants to close the border.
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And we've heard her talk about this before.
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Like, this is not a completely fresh thought that she has,
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but it's fleshed out in a way that is a little bit more
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full than we've heard in the past.
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So the gray-human hybrid program,
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people had wanted me to ask Mark more about this,
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so I did talk to him about it.
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Obviously, their government has made a deal with Grace.
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Obviously.
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Having to do with an exchange of technology.
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This goes back to the days of Eisenhower
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and is very well known by people in our sector.
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Roswell.
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Now, there was a deal also made to get
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them to stop abducting US citizens
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and to focus on south of the border.
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That, indeed, is what happened.
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The Grays have been much more active abducting individuals
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in Latin and South America as a result over the past 60 years.
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And this is really why Trump wants to close the border.
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It has to do with those hybrids coming of age.
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So those are gray-human hybrids.
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And that was a very successful program
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on the part of the Grays.
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And a lot of those individuals want to come back
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and come to the United States.
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And this is creating kind of an X-Men scenario
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having to do with a population that's hard to control.
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All this is is creating a narrative
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where it becomes emotionally acceptable for you
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to accept brutal policing on the vulnerable populations that
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are coming up from south of the border.
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That is all just an outrageous fantasy version of why,
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like, yeah, of course we should put people in cages.
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Of course.
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I mean, kill them if you need to.
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They're super-powered.
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They're super-powered.
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Do you understand?
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This could be a cyclops with no mask situation
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very easily if we allow it to be.
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Oh, man.
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What if one of them is able to explode?
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What do we do then?
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I just don't know.
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I mean, you know, I think a lot of genocides
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were X-Men-based, honestly.
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I think, personally, that's why genocides tend to occur.
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There's just too many goddamn X-Men out there.
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Every time they pop up, we got to genocide them.
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This is all just to create emotional distance
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between people that are unlike yourself.
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Yeah, that's fucked up.
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It's really, really fucked up.
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And I'd like to say this.
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I understood that according to paranormal lore,
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Eisenhower signed a contract with aliens
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that has to do with abductions and stuff.
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I understand that that is a part of the canon.
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You didn't realize it was foreign policy-based?
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I didn't realize that he sold out the people
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in Central and South America.
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And if so, I would like to say I don't like that.
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I don't like Ike!
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I do not like Ike!
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I would just say...
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That's really shitty, man.
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I know. That's really...
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That's American foreign policy in a nutshell, isn't it?
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Hey, look, we just don't want a problem on our board.
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We just don't want it in our house.
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We go fuck with them.
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That's horrible.
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He made a treaty with them.
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How can you make a treaty with them
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for another nation to be ransacked?
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Like, aren't we really...
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That's not even a treaty.
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Isn't he just being like,
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hey, look at those guys over there.
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Why don't you do those guys?
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Right.
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That's bad.
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That's real bad.
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That's bad negotiation on his part.
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And also, Kerry is being very racist.
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Yeah, yeah.
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Quite frankly, that's all that really boils down to.
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It's just a rationalization.
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And I mean, it's...
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I guess it's probably more fun to tell yourself
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that that's what you're afraid of.
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Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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Probably.
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Well, hey, hey, it's not people who have different skin than me.
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I'm not worried about them.
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It's that they're X-Men.
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It's that, it's that.
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Damn, it's obvious.
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I'm not a racist.
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But look, the problem is that there's going to be
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an invasion at the border
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and it might not be immigrants from the South.
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And we know that this is going to happen
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and Kerry explains why.
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She has it on really good authority.
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There is also still the risk of the Chinese infiltration
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through our border and underground of that border.
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And I've actually had a very significant dream
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that I certainly hope doesn't come true,
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that it does involve Chinese invading through that border.
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No, I didn't know you had a dream.
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Well, that's, I mean, now that I've got dream behind me,
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there's just nothing I can do.
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We do know that she's psychic.
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That's true.
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So we, ooh, this is not good.
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China's going to invade with X-Men.
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I think one thing that concerns me,
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she's on Trump's side.
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Yeah.
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Does she not know who the bad guy in X-Men was?
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The American government.
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Right.
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But that's how the movie got made.
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You understand?
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It's pro X-Men propaganda from the Chinese.
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Exactly.
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You know what?
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I retract my criticism.
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This goes back to Alex.
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She's on the side of the bad guy in every movie.
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Yeah, no doubt.
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This is insane.
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Also, important point.
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Yeah.
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I don't know what superpowers are being created.
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Down there.
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But every single X-Men movie I've ever seen,
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every single X-Man and woman can handle a wall.
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Ah.
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I don't know.
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That's not true.
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That's not true.
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There's that one guy.
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Who?
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The guy who was kept in that little room
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in X-Men The Last Stand.
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The one who cured other mutants of their muteness.
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Magneto?
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No, no, no, no.
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Magneto fucks up walls, left and right.
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I don't.
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Nobody has ever treated walls like that.
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Okay, fine.
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90% of X-Men characters would have no problem with a wall.
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Nightcrawler can crawl right over it.
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Most of them can fly.
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He can teleport.
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People can walk through walls.
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Right.
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Or, I don't know, you get juggernaut to just run through.
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Right, right, right.
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Problem is solved for the X-Men.
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But then you reveal yourself to the greater population,
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so it makes more sense to just equiesce
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to your horrific treatments.
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You know, like how the X-Men did.
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Okay.
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Still gonna have a problem with the teleporters.
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Well, they're working for the Draco, man.
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If you can teleport, you get Lieutenant Colonel status.
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I love the idea that you're trying to create
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this exaggerated threat and your solution is a fucking wall.
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Yeah, build the wall.
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Build the wall.
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Probably, we got super humans.
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Wow, I can't handle a wall.
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No matter what, everyone she likes
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is incompetent in any stories.
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Fucking humans can climb these walls
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that we're building.
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Non-superpowered people.
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Dumb.
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It's very dumb.
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Anyway, you were touching on some of the,
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let's call it subtle racism.
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Are we calling it subtle?
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Well, compared to this next clip,
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what she said earlier was subtle.
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Okay.
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This, not so subtle,
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also involves her believing that the movie Logan is real.
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Okay.
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We have heard her say before.
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It's a great movie.
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It's a great movie.
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She has said that it's real before,
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so that part, not shocking,
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although what comes after it, very racist.
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Again, the Grays report to the reps
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who report to the Draco.
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There's an important story that's,
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this sort of story I'm talking about
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has to do with an X-Men movie called Logan,
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which I highly recommend if you haven't seen it.
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Great movie.
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And Latinos and South Americans are closer to,
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as what you call a root race.
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They're closer to the root race,
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and therefore they are a better genetic sort of basis
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or more fertile ground for the invasion
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of the Gray genetics.
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And when you do hybridization,
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it is known you need a very sturdy root stock.
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And so this is why they concentrated in that area
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and you need meaning strong enough to handle
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without dying the Gray DNA.
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So that's really what's going on there.
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Wow.
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You know what?
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This is a proof of how equal our society is now.
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Really?
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In the early 1800s,
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in the early 1800s,
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this is the type of shit
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that doctors would say about women.
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And now here we are,
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a woman is strong enough to paint an entire race of people
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with one big broad brush like we've always dreamt of, Dan.
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It's equality.
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This racist bullshit is equality.
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Okay.
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Jesus Christ.
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I mean, you could kind of make the argument
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that closer to the root race,
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that phrasing might be equivalent to unevolved.
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There might be a certain...
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I can't even get it.
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Like, this is comically offensive.
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Yeah.
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I don't know how you can say that out loud and be like,
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no, no, no, I'm not being racist.
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Because...
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I'm actually being complimentary if anything else.
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Their genetics are so good.
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They're so much better than ours.
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Because this classification of people is different
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than white people.
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Yeah.
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They are not as far along the path,
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which makes them easier for aliens to hybridize.
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Yep.
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Obviously.
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Aliens don't want white people, Dan.
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Our genes will just fall apart at the drop of the hat.
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Have you seen us on a beach?
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We get all burnt and shit.
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We've become too human.
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This is...
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I really just don't understand people who insist
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they understand anything about genetics,
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while at the same time looking at somebody thinking
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skin color means genes are completely different.
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Right.
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Like, oh, well, your skin is a different color than mine,
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so obviously you're from a completely different root race.
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Stock.
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Yeah.
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Jesus Christ.
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Yep.
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Not good.
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Not good.
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Not good.
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Very racist.
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Glad that she watched Logan, though.
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Yeah, it was a good movie.
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So turns out Mark had an option that he faced in his life,
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and that was the possibility to become more than human himself.
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Mark Richards was offered a raptor enhancement,
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and it's a piece of raptor brain that would have been merged
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with his own, but he declined because he did not want to
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become part raptor.
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Raptors have brains in their tails, right?
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Even though he works very closely with the raptors,
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and they are working on the side of humanity at this time.
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I don't like the at this time part.
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And these are, yes, the velociraptors
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that Steven Spielberg depicts in the Jurassic world
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and the Jurassic movies.
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She says that like she's exacerbated by constantly
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getting the question.
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Yes, this is the same velociraptors.
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Duh.
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I mean, and they don't have feathers,
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so don't even get me started on that shit.
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Settle a whole big thing.
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Ask Mark Richards about the feathers.
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I've never heard him chime in on that.
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That's a good point.
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Yeah.
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That's a good point.
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That would really settle that for once and for all.
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It would solve it for me.
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Feathers or no feathers.
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Yeah, I need to know.
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I need to know.
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Yeah, so I guess, I mean, like, hey,
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I respect anyone's decision whether or not
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to become part raptor.
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But it seems weird.
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Well, yeah, he would have been disqualified from the Olympics.
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He was also going to be the raptor princess, though.
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He won't even become part raptor?
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Boo, sir.
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So we get now to the question of the 2020 election here.
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And Mark and Kerry have some interesting analysis.
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Mark thinks that Trump will win, which I think a lot of people
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are concerned about.
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Right.
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So regarding Trump and another term,
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he does believe that Trump will have another term.
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He says the people running the Democratic side, those running
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are hopeless and that the Iowa caucus was proof
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that the whole thing will be controlled,
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that they are not going to allow any of those running
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to succeed.
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Of course, our elections have been controlled for time,
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you know, forever, especially since the Kennedy assassination.
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So from then on, you can be guaranteed that we have not
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had free elections.
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Wilson, not alien control.
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No, certainly not.
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No, no, no, no.
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He was too racist even for them.
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But he did bring in the Federal Reserve,
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which you would think Draco would be into,
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according to the transitive property
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that I built between the globalist and the Draco.
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Yeah, cool.
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All right.
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Astute.
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I'm telling you, Mark is not bringing it today.
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This is a lazy take.
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I will say the Democratic Party sucks.
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Good call, Mark.
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I will say that from my experience of watching it,
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I did also feel like there's a much less mark in this
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than normal.
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There's a lot of Kerry's views.
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He was bored, and he was tired.
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I think Kerry might have needed to flesh it out a little.
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So we get now to talking about Trump.
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And listen to this and tell me this isn't just exactly Alex.
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However, what happened with Trump,
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and I've talked about this many times,
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has been a hack, hacking back from the Hillary side that was
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a hack attack to begin with, of the election.
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So that's how Trump came in power,
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being backed by a certain portion of the military.
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Oh, being backed by a certain portion of the military,
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hacking back.
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Would you say it's a counter-hack?
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I would say it's a counter-hack, Dan.
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Oh, yeah.
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Yep.
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This narrative runs through many different communities.
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They're all convinced of this idea
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that all elections are controlled.
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But Trump isn't, because he's working with the good guys
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in the mysterious secret space program, deep state,
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whatever the fuck, in a counter-coup against the coup
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that Hillary was running.
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It's universal.
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It's weird.
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So now we go back to Nixon.
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That's something that I was expecting you to say.
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The Nixon, he had a very particular job
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in the Eisenhower administration.
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He handled the aliens.
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Yes, he did.
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Of course he did.
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Why didn't I assume that?
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Why was that tape turned off, Dan?
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We talked about the Cuban Missile Crisis
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again, because I wanted to get some clarification
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on the information I had gotten in the past from Mark
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regarding that and Nixon's role, et cetera.
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And Nixon obviously never got over it.
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And people are recommended to see the book by Ashton Gray,
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Watergate, The Hoax.
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I will not.
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And Nixon had handled the ET situation for Eisenhower
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and was read in.
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Nixon was taken down through mind control
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in an operation orchestrated by these usual suspects,
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as they call them.
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Jordan, what's the glaring problem in this timeline?
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Oh, god.
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The Cuban Missile Crisis happened in October 1962,
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at which point Nixon was not in office, nor was Eisenhower.
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That was JFK.
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He was busy.
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Nixon was running for the governor of California
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at that point.
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Well, he was still working with Kennedy handling his aliens.
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He was not?
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No, no, no.
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I know they ran against each other.
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I understand that.
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I know JFK won, and Nixon was absolutely furious with that.
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But when you get a chance to handle
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the aliens for the President of the United States,
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you got to do it.
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And he wasn't.
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Those are two big stumbling blocks.
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So JFK was in office.
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Nixon wasn't.
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And the Cuban Missile Crisis happened.
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And somehow Nixon couldn't get over that.
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And then would become president years later,
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and then was impeached because of mind control.
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This doesn't make sense.
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I wrote down the question, is she a Nixon fan?
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And she answered it in that clip.
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She's a Nixon apologist, at least.
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They always support the bad guy.
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Do they just not know when a bad guy is a bad guy?
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Well, this is actually not super consistent.
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A lot of the folks who are in the Alex Jonesy
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side of the right wing.
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And Alex, prior to the more recent history,
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were pretty not into Nixon.
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Nixon was not somebody who they consider someone
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in the Goldwater vein of anti-communist conservative.
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Well, and he helped open relations with China,
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which as we know now is a bad thing.
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Yeah, yeah, yeah, OK.
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But Alex is a little bit more muddy on that
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now because of being friends with Roger Stone.
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It's tough to hate Nixon.
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That certainly makes it difficult
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when your best friend has a tattoo of Nixon on his back.
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It is difficult, yeah, yeah.
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So Alex is complicated in that.
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But a lot of the folks, like if you go back
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to like the John Birch Society folks, a lot of them
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were very not into Nixon.
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Sure, sure, sure.
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So Kerry's angle on it is very strange.
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I'm not sure I've ever heard the he was brought down
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by mind control argument, which I appreciate on some level.
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Novelty is good.
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So you might ask why could Nixon not
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get over the Cuban Missile Crisis, which he wasn't.
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Involved in.
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I mean, unless while he was running for governor
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of California, he was somehow involved
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in the Cuban Missile Crisis.
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Maybe.
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She answers that, and it turns out
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it's her explanation for literally fucking everything.
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Basically, with regard to the Cuban Missile Crisis, which
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Nixon never got over, there were grays
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coming in interdimensionally that had to be stopped,
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according to Mark.
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And they unleashed some very horrible stuff.
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He said the grays were involved totally in that crisis,
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that it was not about what people thought it was about.
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In other words, Russian missiles, et cetera.
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That was a cover.
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There's always a Stargate going on everywhere.
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There's aliens coming in.
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And you just see it like, oh, yeah, sure,
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you think that it's brinksmanship
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between world superpower.
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Nope, absolutely not.
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It's aliens.
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You know.
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Always.
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Always.
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Always.
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Mark does not like immigrants so much,
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he will rewrite history to always be about somebody
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coming into this country and how we need to stop them.
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Yeah, exactly.
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He hates immigrants.
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It's painfully consistent.
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Every time there is something, like the first Iraq War,
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Saddam Hussein was trying to bring
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in aliens through a portal.
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Of course he was.
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Every single thing.
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Cuban Missile Crisis, nah, it was aliens in a portal.
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Vietnam War, spider beings coming in through a portal.
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Every single fucking time it's aliens in a portal.
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And it turns out those fires in Brazil.
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Aliens in a portal?
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Well, I don't know about a portal,
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but it's definitely about aliens.
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OK.
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He talked about the jungles in South American Africa
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saying that the Grays considered jungles here
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on planet Earth as dangerous.
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And other aliens do as well.
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Now that's what I was looking for from Mark.
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There's so many strange and different life forms.
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So that they consider South America
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a more friendly environment.
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And the deforestation and the fires in the Amazon
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is to make it more conducive for Grays to live there.
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Mark just doesn't like bugs.
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He's projecting all of his hatreds onto the Grays.
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Well, I agree he's afraid of jungles.
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Malaria.
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They would be afraid of cities too then.
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Because to them, everything is foreign.
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Well, it's an urban jungle.
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This is so dumb.
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They prefer planes, Dan.
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Temperate planes.
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They want to live in Iowa.
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If Gray aliens are afraid of jungles because of there
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being a bunch of things there, they'd be afraid of everything.
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Right.
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Every.
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They would be afraid of humans.
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They'd be afraid of cows.
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This is exhausting.
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No, I don't know.
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It's like War of the Worlds.
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Look, the aliens weren't afraid of us,
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but they should have been afraid of the cold.
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See, it's just like the Grays.
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I grow weary of this.
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The Grays landed.
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And what we need to do to stop them is either, I guess,
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kill them all or turn the entire Earth into a jungle.
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Now, see, this is one of those interesting instances
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where the fantasy scenario actually kind of works
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towards the right goal.
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Because we need to reforest to stop the Grays.
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Right.
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She should be opposed to the deforestation
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and the burning of the forest because she's
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afraid that Grays are trying to hang out without the bugs.
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But in reality, there is the business interests that
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are behind the deforestation.
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And so we all should be opposed to the Amazon disappearing.
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Including her.
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Right.
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If this is an instance of like, if that's how you get there,
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that's how you get there, we're in a crisis.
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I'm not going to argue with you.
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We'll deal with that later.
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We'll deal with it later.
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Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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But other instances, not so much.
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I cannot agree with the conclusions.
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But that's one I'll just go ahead and be like,
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all right, fair enough.
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I do appreciate knowing that I am part
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of the human race, which is not responsible for anything
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ever in our entire history.
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It's all aliens and portals, man.
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It has always been aliens and portals.
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Yep.
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And Carrie, I think on our last time we talked about her,
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she revealed her lackadaisical, lackluster superpower,
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which is her hand.
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She can douse.
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She can sort of tell you where portals might be.
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She's a little bit of a dowser.
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We get an expression of this superpower in this next clip.
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So there is also information that I gave to Mark,
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because when I come to visit Mark, I stay in San Francisco,
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and actually kind of playing the tourist for the day before.
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And in this case, we stayed on Fisherman's Wharf.
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Fisherman's Wharf in San Francisco
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has become highly dangerous late at night.
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No, it's very nice.
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It is right near the Presidio.
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And I was basically bringing that to Mark's attention,
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because it is possible that there is a portal there
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that has been reopened.
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Don't talk.
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Oh, no.
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Fisherman's Wharf is basically the biggest tourist center
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in San Francisco.
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Everything there is just like super tourist-centric.
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I've been there a bunch of times since my grandma
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lived in the Bay Area.
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And one thing I will say that's kind of working in Kerry's
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favor here and there is that Fisherman's Wharf does
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house the original Ghirardelli chocolate plant.
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So if there's going to be raptors anywhere.
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That is obviously where they're going to be.
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Dan, you have cracked the case.
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Right.
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I've done it all at Fisherman's Wharf, man.
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I've been to the chocolate factory.
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I've gone to the cable car museum.
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I've gone to Pier 39.
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And I've never seen an alien.
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Last year did see a slight uptick in violent crime
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in the neighborhood, however.
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With a man being murdered there in March 2019
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and there have been some robberies
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that have been reported.
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The murder does appear to have been a fight between people
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who at least were kind of acquainted with each other.
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It's very weird the details you're able to find about that.
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And you know, some robberies are going
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to take place in any area where there's
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a high concentration of people.
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So it's not, you know, it's obviously not good.
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But you don't, you should, I don't
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think you should look at the robberies
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and be like, oh my god, everything's deteriorating.
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Probably a portal.
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Last month, a group of eight women
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attacked a 16-year-old Starbucks employee with a golf club
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and stole her watch and phone in a completely bizarre crime.
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Despite this, I can find no indication
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of Fisherman's Wharf being any more or less
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dangerous than any big city tourist area after dark.
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If I had to guess, I'm betting that Carrie
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saw a high proportion of Hispanic people walking around.
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Because she knows they're closer to the root race
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and thus more likely to be alien hybrids, she got freaked out.
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You nailed it.
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That's kind of my suspicion.
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That was, she just like summed up white flight in two seconds.
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She was like, well, it's dangerous after dark now,
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you know.
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Right.
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So also we get from Mark an explanation
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of the assassination of Qasem Soleimani.
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Oh, I was wondering why that happened.
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Well, turns out.
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Regarding the death of Soleimani,
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he said he was trying to access the gates between Iran
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and Iraq and give access to certain beings who
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wanted to come into this dimension.
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This is the real reason he had to die.
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He basically wanted to rule Iran and to let those beings in,
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just as Saddam Hussein, who was deposed prior
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to that for the same reason.
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That Saddam was letting in Anunnaki and certain beings
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that simply wasn't going to be allowed.
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It's all portals, man.
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Mark does not know who Soleimani was.
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I'm guessing he was bluffing around a little.
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He has no idea.
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I think that Mark is not very creative on one level.
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I mean, some of the alien races and their particular
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picadillos, like the antiquing with raptors
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and the archeology with cats.
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Yeah.
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Like, I think some of that's pretty fucking hilarious
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because, like, obviously the cat one is because of litter boxes,
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like digging around for artifacts.
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I think there's some fun creativity there.
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But he's not very creative when it
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comes to geopolitical explanations or things.
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Everything is aliens coming through a portal.
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Qasem Soleimani is assassinated.
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It's like, wow, that's weird.
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Why would Trump do something like that?
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And it's like, well, of course, he
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was trying to create a portal to let aliens in in the Iraq-Iran
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thing.
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And it wasn't a petulant man-baby lashing out.
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And we all know that that's a reasonable, valid argument
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to make because that's what happened with Saddam Hussein,
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too.
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All of this is portal shit.
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It's just fucking boring.
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Absolutely.
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It's very exhausting.
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Oh, man.
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So now we get an update on another figure
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in the world of Project Camelot.
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And that is Shaun David Morton, who
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is the scammer who defrauded a bunch of people,
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did pay his taxes, and went to prison.
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Yeah.
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Apparently, he's not having a good time in prison.
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Shaun David Morton, regarding his book,
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Sands of Time series, and the fact
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that Shaun is being tortured in prison.
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He's in Texas now.
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He's been moved to a Texas prison.
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And he has been, as I say, tortured.
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I don't believe this.
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But just to be fair, I'm going to say,
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if he is being tortured, I'm wholeheartedly and unqualifiedly
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against that.
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Yeah.
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I don't believe this, though.
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But if it is, please file a report
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with the human rights people.
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I agree.
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Absolutely.
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Don't just try and do whatever you're
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doing on your YouTube show.
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Get it out to?
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It's a big problem.
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Torture is not that big of a problem to these people.
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I guess.
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Seems like it's just part of the game.
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It's very strange.
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You're going to be tortured.
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I think that it trivializes the idea of someone actually
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being tortured.
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It absolutely does.
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You should be contacting the UN or something.
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If you actually have some evidence
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that your scam friend is being tortured in prison.
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But there's a reason.
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And Mark explains why Shaun is getting this treatment.
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And I talked to Mark about why Shaun was being tortured.
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And he says they may eventually try to kill him.
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Obviously, they're trying to get at the witness, the testimony
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that was given to Shaun by his lawyer
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through this other lawyer of an individual who
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ran Area 51 and S4.
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And that's why I shouldn't pay taxes.
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And basically became a time traveler after that.
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And I guess that individual is trying to disclose information
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through Shaun's books, doing a very good job of it.
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Mark agrees.
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So you've got a situation where there's
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a guy who used to run Area 51 and then became a time traveler.
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And he's giving this information that Shaun David Morton
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uses to write his Sands of Time book.
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So Shaun's been arrested for his rampant crimes.
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And now he's being tortured in prison.
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And Mark believes that it's because they're
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trying to get at this whistleblower guy who's
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the source for the Sands of Time books.
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Did he become a time traveler after?
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There's a problem.
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Or before.
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There's a problem with this theory.
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And that is that let me read to you
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from the introduction of the first Sands of Time book.
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Sure, sure, sure.
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Quote, many years ago, a powerful, mysterious man
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approached the author.
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He had lived virtually all his life
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as a top director and high level scientist involved
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in the above top secret black world of shadow government
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projects and research.
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He said he admired the service of the author
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and his undaunted quest to bring the truth to light
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and began a feed of crucial inside information
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to be released to the public.
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He's a hero.
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When certain circumstances presented themselves,
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he wanted to get the truth out to the world
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before it was too late, as our planet
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was, he said, in grave danger.
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But he could only tell the whole story
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after he had moved on, to use his exact words.
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The government doesn't need to torture Shaun
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to get his whistleblower, because Shaun's own narrative,
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according to that, that he's dead.
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He could only get the information
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after the dude was dead, because Shaun only
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got this from his estate when it was being sorted out
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after he died.
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Like, I understand that you could be like,
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after he moved on, means he time traveled or something.
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But he died.
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According to Shaun's narrative, dude's dead.
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According to Shaun himself, the dude is dead.
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The introduction of his book.
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You can't change the story now.
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Internal consistency is pretty important
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when you're just making up conspiracy bullshit.
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This fails that test.
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You would think.
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Yeah.
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So anyway, Mark believes something is going on here.
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Mark said that he read, actually, Sands of Time
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and that they contain some striking truths.
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And basically, they may be trying
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to persuade Shaun to discredit himself before they
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will release him.
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If that's the case, he should be out already,
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because mission accomplished.
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That dude's discredited.
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Yeah, if that's your goal, get on out of here.
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He was discredited before he went into prison.
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Get on out of here.
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Come on, buddy.
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You were discrediting you.
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Yeah.
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So we have one last clip.
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Mike down for this, because it hit you with some whiplash.
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It starts with a sort of standard complaint
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of the paranormal conspiracy world
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and then a nonsensical thing to end on.
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The problem with humans is that they're not waking up
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fast enough, according to Mark.
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And he says that they are going to be
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dupes for what's coming down in the future
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if they don't wake up.
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And lastly, regarding Trump's family,
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Mark says he believes the women in Trump's family
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are not human.
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And that was basically, I think that's my last slide, yes.
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And so that's it for the Mark Richards total recall.
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OK.
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No further comments.
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Nope.
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I don't believe they're human.
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And that's all I'll say on the matter.
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People aren't waking up fast enough.
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You're all going to be dupes in the future.
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Also, the women in Trump's family are aliens.
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Not human.
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Not human.
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Good night.
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No judgment value.
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No, like, they're good aliens, bad aliens.
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They're Draco.
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They're not.
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They're just not human.
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Well, we know that Kerry has previously
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said that she believes, or she's been told,
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or Mark maybe even said that Melania
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is a conduit by which aliens communicate with Trump.
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But Mark wouldn't tell her what species of alien
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is contacting her, which is not good.
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Now we don't even get any implication of Mark clearly
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didn't tell her what aliens Ivanka.
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Apparently it's not important.
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Ivanka and?
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Does this mean that Melania is an alien and Trump?
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Wait, but Ivanka isn't Melania's daughter.
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Nope.
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Trump has been fucking aliens since the beginning.
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Does this mean Ivana is an alien too?
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This means that every woman in Trump's family is an alien.
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Is Tiffany an alien?
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Why isn't Trump an alien then?
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Is Trump's mom an alien?
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I don't know.
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Oh, man.
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We got to find this out.
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Oh, this is big news.
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This is a case that I am not going to crack.
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No, you got to get to the bottom of this one, dad.
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All right, fuck it.
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Monday I'm not going back to Alex.
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I'm going to get to the bottom of this.
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Trump family women are aliens.
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I'm looking forward to the dollop episode on Ivanka.
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That'll be serious stuff.
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This must mean Barron's got to be an alien too then, right?
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Because Barron is Melania's kid.
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Well, Barron's half alien.
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But I thought it was just the women aren't human.
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I don't know.
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That's a good question.
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I realize I don't care.
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Yeah, you know you would think that.
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So we come to the end of this, and I
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think there's some fun stupidity and fun nonsense here.
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I've enjoyed taking this little dalliance before we get down
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to, on our next episode, just getting right back down
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to business for Monday on the Alex Jones present day stuff.
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But I think even though we try and take these breaks
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and we try and look at these completely non-real world
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things, and you just see these shocking overlaps,
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these parallels between what underpins her world
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and what underpins Alex.
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And I mean, if you don't see the similarities between the two
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and the ways in which they sort of guide you
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towards similar bad conclusions, then I
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don't know what to tell you.
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I just, I think she thinks it's a good thing.
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But this entire episode seems like she is completely
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dehumanizing everything.
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Like just people who are dealing with the coronavirus,
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not real people in South America.
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Eisenhower sold them all out.
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People in the Amazon are being affected
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by the fires of deforestation.
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Yeah, none of that matters.
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No people matter.
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None of these, nobody is a player in the game.
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The Chinese aren't players in the game.
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It's all the Draco and their fucking reptilian buddies.
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Nobody is a person.
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I think even the larger thing that is that,
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the way that these things work is
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that there are stories that are being told in order for you
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to not have to feel for the people who are affected
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in these circumstances.
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There is a narrative that's being
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spun that's almost like an emotional weighted blanket
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that will comfort you instead of having
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to look at the fact that, no, there
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are a lot of things that are going on that we
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should be doing more about.
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And for some reason, we're either derelict in our duties
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or we're just not able to deal with some things that
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are hurting people.
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It's really hard to know that the government is purposely
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trying to deny water to immigrants coming into the United
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States undocumented in order to kill them
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as a deterrent for more people coming in there.
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That's so fucked up beyond reason.
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That's very tough.
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But what if they were X-Men?
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Exactly.
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That's still fucked up.
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Well, you and I in a situation where X-Men are real
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probably would feel that way that it's fucked up.
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But it helps Carrie not to feel those very
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conflicted and hard emotions.
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And I guess if you need that crotch, it's fine.
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No, it's not.
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It's very much not.
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Certainly not.
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No, that's fucked up.
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Right.
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And Rendlesham didn't happen.
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No, he didn't.
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It was a lighthouse.
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And Mark Richards has some very middle
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of the road political takes.
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Yes.
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He's really got nothing.
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He doesn't have any heat there, man.
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He's a boring hack now.
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I just think he had an off day.
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It happens.
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That could be.
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12th interview slump.
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That could be.
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Anyway, we'll be back on Monday with a normal episode.
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But thank you for joining us for this abnormal one.
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Until we're back, we have a website.
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We do.
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It's knowledgefight.com.
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Right.
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Yep.
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We'll be back.
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But until then, I'm Neo.
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I'm Leo.
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I'm DZX Clark.
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I'm the ghost of Rendlesham.
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Andy in Kansas.
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You're on the air.
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Thanks for holding.
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Hello, Alex.
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I'm a first time caller.
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I'm a huge fan.
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I love your work.
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I love you.
