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Andy in Kansas, you're on the air. Thanks for holding.
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Hello, Alex. I'm a first time caller. I'm a huge fan. I love your work.
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I love you.
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Hey, everybody. Welcome back to Knowledge Fight. I'm Dan.
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I'm Jordan.
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We're a couple of dudes that like to sit around,
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drink novelty beverages, and talk a little bit about Alex Jones.
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Indeed, we are. Dan?
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Yeah.
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Dan.
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Yeah.
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When was the last time you were in court?
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Last time I was in court. No, because I feel like the DMV is court-like.
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No, it is not.
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It has the same...
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No, it is not.
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I felt like I was on trial.
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Okay. Well, you probably will.
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I had to get a new ID and that was really frustrating. So that was like dealing with the
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state. So that's sort of it. When I was 19, I got a DUI kind of thing.
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Really?
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Yeah, yeah. I drank at a party. And then as I was driving home from the party,
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I feel pretty bad about this, but what are you going to do?
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Yeah.
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No one got hurt.
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Right.
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I was driving home and I'd left my coat at the party. And it's central Missouri,
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everybody drives drunk. You don't need to preemptively defend your behavior.
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It's an unfortunate reality of that sort of world that I was living in.
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Right.
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And it's horrible. I look back on it like I'm glad everyone survived for the most part.
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Well, the old joke is like, we don't all have DUIs, but we've all been eligible for one
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at one point in our lives.
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Especially when you're young and stupid.
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Yeah, exactly.
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So I drank at this party. I left my coat there. It was really cold outside. And as I was driving
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home, there was an area that's pretty far away from anything, like any businesses or any of
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that sort of stuff. And I hit some black ice on the road and my car slid off the road into a ditch.
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Yeah.
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And I tried to get the car out of the ditch. I tried to reverse and all that. I didn't have
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my coat. It was before I ever had a cell phone. And so I'm like, shit, I need to get out of here.
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What do I do? It's super cold. I looked around. There was nowhere I could walk.
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And so I was just like, fuck it. I'm just gonna have to bite the bullet on this.
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So I put my flashers on and signaled down a cop.
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Oh man.
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Cop came and I was like, uh, look, I've had a few drinks.
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You are not good at a preemptive defense if that's your opening line.
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I knew that he was going to give me some kind of sobriety test and odds are it might turn combative.
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Like I might, uh, like I wasn't afraid of the cop or anything like that, but I was like,
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why, what's the use of going through this?
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Right.
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So I just told him, I've had, I've had some drinks. Let's, uh, let's take care of this.
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Uh, and he's like, all right. So they took me down to the station. I got, uh, you know,
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got in trouble, stayed there a couple hours. My dad came and picked me up, ended up having
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to go to court. And the, uh, the cop who arrested me actually wrote a letter to the judge about how
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cooperative I was. So it actually worked to my advantage that I flagged down the cop and
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everything. And also it was a cop in Missouri. So he's like, well, everybody drives drunk here.
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He had maybe a little bit of that in him. Um, but, uh, so he'd, he'd written the judge on my
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behalf and it ended up becoming a civic infraction. It wasn't even a misdemeanor charge because of the
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leniency of the court and what have you. So I just ended up having to pay a bunch of money,
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uh, take a DUI class and what have you. And, uh, it was, it was a horrible, uh, wake up call
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at some extent. I never, never got behind the wheel of a car with any alcohol in my system
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after that. Really? Yeah. I have not ever done that. Still not since. Well, cause the moment
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when my car slid off the road and I know it was cause I hit this ice, but it was so terrifying.
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That moment of feeling like completely out of control. It became so like viscerally imprinted
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on me because when I hit that ice, I knew the ice was the problem. Yeah. But also I knew I'm too
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drunk to handle this. Right, right, right, right. So it was, it was really eyeopening and terrifying
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and fun. Uh, end to this story, the cop who ended up arrested me, uh, arresting me, he ended up
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being the security guard at the movie theater that that's not real. That's not real. What's
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a couple of years down? Wait, what? He was the security guard at the theater. You manage later.
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Right, right. No, I got that. It wasn't like, I'm managing this movie theater and I have off
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duty cops as a security guard who should walk in, but this cop who arrested me and uh, we
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said hello. Shook. He's like, I remember you. Uh, you know, just, it was really a, it was a treat
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to rescue. I was like, all right, man. Super cool. Nice. Yeah. My story of that ilk was, uh,
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I was actually in, uh, uh, uh, like some, some small town doing a show and it was only
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25 minutes away from where I grew up middle of nowhere and I'm comedian drunk. It's like one 30
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and I'm driving drunk could be a bunch of different things. Comedian drunk to me on a,
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on like a road gig is buzzed or blackout by the way. Yeah, yeah. It's one of the other. Yeah,
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exactly. I'm, I'm drunker than normal human beings should be, but it doesn't affect me as much.
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Right. Uh, so I'm driving home ticket drunk. Exactly. That's exactly. Uh, I ran out of drink
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tickets. That's how drunk I was. And I am driving home on the highway. Get off at the, uh, stop on
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my hometown. Uh, and I I'm like looking around, it's two o'clock in the morning. There is no
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cars for a million miles. So I'm just like, fuck this red light. And I just take a left and start
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going and turns out directly behind me was a cop. He pulls me over immediately. He pulls me over
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immediately. He's like, what are you doing now? This is where being white was fantastic. I would
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also like to say that I recognize the whiteness and to my story. I'm very aware of how lucky I
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am in that circumstance. Oh yeah, no, this is far worse. Uh, here's what happened. Uh, he goes,
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I watched you just do that. And I was like, does he not know there's a cop behind him?
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What's going on here? And I'm like, you know, it's like 2 AM there's nobody driving and I
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really got to pee. And he's like, well, don't do that anymore. And let's me go. Let's me go.
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Immediately. Like that was it. Yeah. So, so, uh, in case you were wondering if white privilege
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was the thing. Yeah. In both our cases, perhaps. Yeah. Little bit. Played a part. Tiny bit. Um,
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so that's not what this show is about. It's about Alex Jones, how I know a lot about him.
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And I only know what you tell me about him. That is correct. Um, today we got an interesting,
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uh, bit of business to go over, but before we get to today's episode, I would like to take a step,
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uh, back from Alex Jones and from our stories of run-ins with the police, uh, and, uh, say thank
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you to a couple of new donors. Uh, Jordan today, first of all, I would like to say thank you to
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someone who was just joined up and, uh, supported the show. Uh, thank you so much, Will. You are now
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a policy wonk. I'm a policy wonk. Thank you, Will. Thank you very much, Will. Also like to say thank
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you to someone else who was just joined up. Thank you so much, David. You are now a policy wonk.
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I'm a policy wonk. Thank you, David. Welcome aboard. Also one last, uh, thank you. And this
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one is for someone who has joined at an elevated level. Oh shit. And also right out the gate also
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has a pretty cool name and I'm probably going to fuck it up. Okay. But thank you so much.
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Cloud killed Aerith. You are now a technocrat. I'm a policy wonk. Four stars. Go home to your
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mother and tell her you're brilliant. Someone, someone sodomite sent me a bucket of poop. Daddy
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shark. Jar Jar Binks has a Caribbean black accent. He's a loser. Little, little titty baby. I don't
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want to hate black people. I renounce Jesus Christ. Thank you so much. Thank you so much.
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Also Sephiroth killed Aerith and if you are implying that it is due to Cloud's actions
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that Aerith died, I agree with you wholeheartedly, but Sephiroth did deliver the killing blow.
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Cloud near the end just couldn't do it. So how dare you, sir? Oh boy. How dare you, sir?
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Final Fantasy seven is a seminal moment in my life. Shut up. I heard that. I've heard that's
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a good game. I wish I had played more RPGs. You know, you know how real this dude is or woman
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should be. Don't gender our donors. Absolutely not. Aerith, Japanese translation. Aeris is the
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American translation. So this dude knows what's up or lady or person, just person. You know what,
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beyond knowing what's up, they have supported the show in a big way and I really appreciate it. Oh,
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so very much. And thank you very much. If you out there would like to support the show, we would
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really appreciate it. You can do that by going to knowledgefight.com our website and clicking
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support the show. So Jordan, today we are still back in 2009 because I emotionally cannot handle
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the prospect of listening to Alex Jones in the present. Now I know I could tell you what he's
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saying. I'm sure that these women who are accusing Cavanaugh are liars. It's deep state operatives or
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some bullshit like that. That's a brand new take on it. And I don't know how, how we could not
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how could we not top tackle that hot of a take that unique of a point of view on this particular
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circumstance? I don't foresee anything that he's saying not coming back to some sort of dumbass
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deep state bullshit or the chai comms or something. Or it's just a conspiracy that the
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Clintons are putting together. I mean, hell, that's on Fox News or whatever. Or no, no, no,
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Cavanaugh fucking said it. Totally possible by the way. God, we're dead. It's not possible. So,
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but the, the, the reason that I don't want to go into any of that is because I just don't feel
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like it's fertile territory. I don't think what he's going to bring to the table is going to be
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in any way interesting. And then we already know that his modus operandi now is being a multi-level
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marketing guy who's on the brink of possible self-destruction. And it feels ugly to look at
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it. I don't, I don't think that even though we're being critical, I still don't think that it's
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good to look at that. It's not good to give it attention. I would like to know what his ad pivots
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for the multi-level marketing scheme are though. Maybe we'll check in eventually and I'll try and
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sort that out. Yeah. I want to get a, how do you, how do you even add pivot into the like,
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Oh, everybody's coming to rape your children. And if you want to become a distributor of
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Judenest products, you don't go with that. They're coming for your children angle. Instead
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you start to, we, you know how back in the 2008, 2009 times, so where we are so much of
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his stuff involves like they're going to crash the dollar. Oh, here's Bob Chapman to help me sell
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right Anderson's gold. All right. All right. So they're going to crash the economy. You're going
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to be unemployed. Here's one way you're not working for the man. Right. You're working
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for you. The globalists want to destroy the middle class. This is your ticket to the middle class.
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Yeah, no, that's a good angle. So you could do an ad pivot like that, which is why,
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which is why I almost 100% guarantee you guys not done that. Absolutely. They wouldn't,
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uh, I wouldn't come to it. Uh, so on our last episode, uh, boy, I did not expect for Aussie
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man Damas to, uh, overtake, uh, life is very fragile in terms of the audience response,
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but man, people love the Aussie man Damas. So that was really fun. That Watchman review, uh,
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really hit a lot of people close to home. Uh, apparently a lot of graphic novel fans in our
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audience. Can't imagine why surprising cloud did not kill her. So today we, we, we jump in, uh,
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on March 10th, 2009, the next day after, uh, he endorses the Tony Alamo sex cult, uh, where
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they're marrying kids. Let's never speak of that and keep saying Aussie man Damas. So we're on the
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next day now. And I'll be honest with you. When I started this episode, I fully expected him to
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come on air and be like, I didn't know about the Tony Alamo situation. I am so sorry. I,
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I just went off half cocked without the information. And I will say this, Jordan,
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he does make one retraction on this episode, but I will not tell you whether it has to do with Tony
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Alamo or not. He's going to say it's Aussie man Damas, isn't he? I'll say in advance that that is
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not what the retraction is. Okay. All right. All right. All right. So let's start the episode.
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Somehow I feel like that's the most important one. No, no, no, no. It's endorsing a child to marry.
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Oh yeah, yeah, yeah. Probably the child rapist endorsing the child rapist is bad. Yeah. But I
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mean, Aussie man Damas come on. It's egregious linguistically. Um, so here we go. We're going
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to start where, uh, Alex starts the episode. Is he going to be talking about, uh, you know,
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the tea party? Is he going to be talking about the flu avian flu stuff that he's building up to?
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Is it the 10th amendment? What is it going to be? We've been getting a lot of threats and a lot of,
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uh, chicanery going on. The enemy knows this is going to be powerful. And I will tell them now
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this film is going out. We trust in God and we know it's going to make it out. We know it's
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going to get it out. I'm tempted to just slam it in high gear and release it right now. So this is
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19, 20 minutes into his broadcast. And so far, all he's been doing is promoting the Obama deception.
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Oh, that's what he's, that's which film he's talking about. And there's chicanery going on?
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There's behind the scenes chicanery. In what direction? Towards whom?
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Towards Alex, but he's very unspecific about it. Uh, we're gonna,
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we're gonna see where his head is at. He's saying he's tempted to release it now.
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In fact, I may just release it. Do it! I may release it right now. Do it!
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Because this sucker is going to blast the new world order big time.
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Is it going to put them on blast? And I want you, when it goes up on Google and YouTube,
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I want you to get it and I want you to put it on every MySpace account, every Facebook account.
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I want it to every email list over and over again. I want it to be posted on every message
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board and forum out there. I want it to immediately go mega viral supernova.
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Advertise for free for me. And then when these zombies come to your door,
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I want you to have deluxe copies ready for them. And I want you to tell them,
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you tell them, this is the red pill. You know, the matrix, all I'm offering is the truth.
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Nothing more. You've been betrayed. Bush and Obama are evil.
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Do you truly want to fix things? Do you truly want real change?
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Here's the red pill. And then just shut the door.
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Countdown. Countdown.
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That's it. We're launching early. I can't control that happen.
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I see. You know what? I mean, in a way there's two schools of thought,
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building up the momentum and then launching it on that date. I'll have to think about it.
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Wait, what? I thought you just dropped it. I have to think about it.
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It's just so much is going on. So much is happening. The enemy is moving so quick.
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I want to drop now. Like seven track Kanye album.
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Should we release it now? Moms away on the info war or should we wait?
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Building up the momentum, building up the big dynamos, the servos, the reactor core
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as the huge generators power up to fire a devastating blow against the globalist.
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This is still going. Oh yeah.
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Wow. All the way out to break.
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So 20 minutes like he pays sex workers to have it to tape a copy of the Obama deception to
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their face while he says exactly that. I could see them while he fucks.
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That's disgusting. I could. That was gross.
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So he spent 19 to 20 minutes of the beginning of his show, just pimping his documentary,
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then announces we're going to fucking do this now because there's so much trouble behind this.
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Well, maybe not. There's something to be said for doing an ad campaign.
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I don't know. What are we going to do? But who knows? I'm right though. We know that much.
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So that's a cool headspace. Not really discussing any news per se.
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Well, but this is 20 minutes of a four hour show. I know that that's, that's a whole lot of show
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that he has to do, but still that's a big chunk of it just to dedicate to my DVD is coming out.
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His DVD is coming out though. And it might be coming out right now.
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And not only that, not only that, but you better share it.
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It better go mega viral, mega, mega viral. That's why he doesn't want people to
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take vaccines. Then it won't go mega viral. Absolutely. So, uh, this next clip is one of
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the instances of like, when I was listening to this episode, it made me realize that I
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kind of like a lot of songs that I didn't realize I liked. And it might just be because
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the juxtaposition with Alex is like, he sucks so much that I actually kind of like the police.
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What do you mean you kind of like the police? How dare you? This is an SOS. The republic's
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been seized by offshore banks, England, Australia, New Zealand, Canada, the United States are falling
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to classic military tyranny. The coup d'etat has been launched. The corporate takeover is
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near completion. The people must be alerted to this fraud immediately, or they're going to go
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into the next phase. Total depression, total implosion by design to cause worldwide rioting
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and bring in a world government. They'll then turn the economy on for a time to sell everybody
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that globalism is the answer. And then they will clamp down even stronger after that,
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ladies and gentlemen, fight back against the banker onslaught with the Obama deception,
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order your DVDs now at info wars.com and get ready for the release coming up this Sunday evening at
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6 PM. Oh, now it's Sunday? Yeah, apparently. Well, what day is it now? About launching it
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on Friday. I will tell you that right now. Okay, so we're all over the map in terms of when this
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thing is going to come out, but it's your best way to fight the bankers and the criminals who
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have taken over. Also, I'd like to point out to the audience that Jordan, in the middle of that
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clip, wrote down on his notepad Stuart Copeland with an exclamation point. Are you kidding me?
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I think his drumming was fucking revolutionary. That's fine. It was spectacular. I take that.
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Walking on the moon, his hi-hat work set the gold standard. I think it's a little soft.
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Not the drumming, but their music as a whole. I never really liked it much. I'm willing to
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believe that they're a better band than I realize or care to know, but I always compartmentalize
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them in real easy listening soft rock. No, I'm right there with you if it weren't for
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Stuart Copeland. I'm genuinely serious. Any time I listen to the police, I'm always listening for
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what Stuart's doing, because he wasn't a flashy drummer. He wasn't doing Phil's left and right.
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The man was just fucking on point. Fair enough. On point. All right. Technical superiority. So
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what we've learned so far is Stuart Copeland revolutionized drumming. Alex may put out the
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Obama deception immediately. Or it could be Sunday. Or maybe Friday. Or it could be Friday.
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Who fucking knows? There's a lot of production meetings going on on air right now. But there's
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so much going on behind the scenes where he's being attacked. Right. He knows that he's got
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to get this out because it's the death blow to the globalists. It's going to take him down.
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Yeah. So that all is the first like... Is there anything going on in the real world though?
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Well, we're about to get to it. Okay. But this is the first like 40 minutes of the show or
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something like that. It's interminable, his talking about the Obama deception. 40 minutes.
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And having seen the Obama deception and knowing that, hey boy, that did not take down the
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globalists. And it was also interminable. Yeah. There's a little irony to that. But
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now Alex gets into a story. It's out of the Great White North, Canada. Okay. Well,
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we can't have them on. Alex makes a number of really deeply problematic errors in reporting
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this story. And this is going to be avian flu all over again, but without 9-11 bloggers.
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Canada was invaded by the Chinese. Look at this story. This is from prisonplanet.com and it is
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never linked to all the mainstream news backing up the claims we make here. In fact, most of this
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article is simply quotes from the mainstream news. Now listen to this carefully. It's not
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really good, is it? Glenn Beck says he doesn't know if the FEMA camps are real. Listen to this.
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Canadian military units to undertake domestic security. Duties would include
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mass internment of citizens after terrorist attack, mirroring militarization of law
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enforcement in U.S. and Britain. The Canadian military is reorganizing its priorities to suit
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a post 9-11 world by creating reservist units for each area of the country that would be tasked
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with providing domestic security. That's a quote. It involves such roles as the mass internment of
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citizens in the event of a terrorist attack. So that is a very aggressively worded measure,
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if true. Well, we've got, you know, in another instance of Alex just reading a Paul Joseph
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Watson article from Prison Planet. And there are some quotes in this, but this is from Maple Leaf
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9-11 blogger? Might as well be. So they're deeply, there's some very deep problems with this. The
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first of all is one thing I want to get into is just a foundational problem with this line of
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thought. The reason that American troops in the military can't serve domestic operations except
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for at the whim of the governor of a state is because of the Posse Comitatus Act, which is
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American law, not Canadian. No, it applies to Canadians. The idea that Canada has the same
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laws as us is another hurdle that we're going to have to just get over from the jump. Have they
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never heard of Rome? Because they're pretending that we do have the same laws. And that's a
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problem for their argument. So Canada does not have the same laws as America. So their rules
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regarding troops operating domestically are a little different than ours. In 1922, Canada
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passed their National Defense Act, which lays out the rules under which their military could
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operate. According to Section 6 of the National... Wait, 1922? Yeah. So this is a little bit too
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recent for Alex to know about it. Well, I don't know. I mean, Canada has such a super, like a
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really interesting history in terms of when they broke away from the UK and when they were still
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under the crown. Yeah. And there's so many gradients to like, how autonomous are you
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throughout history? And what did you guys do to the Acadians? 1922 is when they passed this
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National Defense Act. And according to Section 6 of the National Defense Act, and I quote,
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the Canadian forces, any unit or other element thereof and any officer or non-commissioned
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member with material are liable to be called out for service in aid of the civil power in any case
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in which a riot or disturbance of the peace beyond the powers of the civil authorities to suppress.
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They're pretty clear that the civil powers can utilize commissioned persons for things that they
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feel that they can't handle on their own. Section 6 even goes further to say the following, quote,
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nothing in this part shall be deemed to impose liability to serve in aid of civil power without
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his consent on an officer or non-commissioned member of the reserve force who is by virtue of
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the terms of his enrollment liable to perform duty on active service only. People who are opposed to
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being used to assist with the request of civil authorities have the right to refuse to take part
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if they want to. Really? Yeah. They don't even have to. If it's like something... Really? If it's
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like helping out after a flood or something like that, they can just say, I don't feel that's
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appropriate and they're not required to do that. Or if it's like, we need to shut down this riot
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and they're like, no, I think the riot is probably a good idea. They're like, yeah, no.
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They're not compulsed to do that under the National Defense Act of Canada.
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I'm going to say that they do not have the same laws that we do.
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And it's very clear just from that basic foundation document of the Canadian military
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that they can be called out if the civil authorities deem a situation beyond their control.
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Right. So now about this actual article that Paul Joseph Watson wrote, as is always the case,
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Alex is just reading this post by Paul Joseph Watson, who sensationalized an existing story
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to the point where Alex can use it as fuel to scare his audience. In this case, it's a story
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about some reorganizations going on in the Canadian military. The story comes out of the
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National Post, which is a conservative leaning paper out of Toronto. And if you pay close
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attention, you find the very specific points where Paul Joseph Watson intentionally blurs
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truth and lies in order to make his angle super nefarious. The first is in his opening paragraph,
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quote, the Canadian military is reorganizing its priorities to suit a post 9-11 world by
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creating reservist units for each area of the country that would be tasked with providing
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domestic security and involves roles such as the mass interment of citizens in the event of
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a terrorist attack. That is what Alex just read on the air. And it is the first paragraph of
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Paul Joseph Watson's article. Yeah, but I feel like if that even if that were the case,
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you wouldn't write it down. It'd be tough to do that. Because because I mean, anybody who read
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that would be like, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. Interning citizens is usually the sign of a
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dictatorship or fascist government, if you will. Well, that's the thing. Nowhere in the article
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he's purporting to cover does the Canadian military discuss mass internment of civilians.
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This is just Paul Joseph Watson's own assertion being passed off as reporting. The closest the
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article comes to supporting that idea at all is, quote, the units will include perimeter
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security teams prepared to cordon off an area if there was an atomic detonation, nuclear accident,
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or similar source of wide contamination, and Arctic response groups that are trained and
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equipped to live and operate in the far north. There's a big, big difference between mass
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internment and units trained to cordon off a dangerous area to contain fallout or an outbreak.
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Right, right, right. Which is what is being described in this article. It's a very basic
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thing where you're just getting specialized teams of people in the places they need to be
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in case something like that were to happen. Right. When he talks about the post-9-11 world
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that Paul Joseph Watson referenced in his opening paragraph, there is a guy who said like,
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yeah, after 9-11 we all sort of realized that we need to pay more attention to domestic security.
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And I don't think that that's some nefarious code or anything like that. I think that's just,
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oh shit, that could happen here. Hey, we do think that it's a good idea for the military to be
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involved were there to be some sort of nuclear attack that resulted in the genetic mutations
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of zombies. And so we would allow them to cordon off the area, make sure that everybody was safe,
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shoot some zombies in the head, required. Even take zombies out of the equation,
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it's still just like, yeah, why wouldn't you cordon off an area?
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Now I just got a mental picture of a bunch of Mounties with like police tape,
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do not cross, and a giant atomic crater. Dudley Do-Right is out there trying to
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cordon off an area so he can get snidely whiplashes. Yeah, I mean, yeah, that's terrible.
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So the way Paul Joseph Watson deals with this problem that the text itself doesn't say anything
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about mass incarcerations of civilians and does just talk about cordoning off an area
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were there to be a disaster, the way he deals with it is by filling his article with his own spin.
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This isn't based on anything other than his own perception. And as we've seen so many times in
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the past, Paul Joseph Watson does not have a good internal compass. He's a psychopath.
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From his article quote, of course, the necessity of the change is dressed up by using the notion
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of troops helping people in the event of earthquakes, floods, and nuclear accidents.
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But we also learned that one of the duties that the reservists would potentially undertake
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would be mass internment of civilians in camps or quarantine zones after a biological terror attack.
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That is completely of his own design. That's his own interpretation. He's making that up.
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Right. That is not in the article. The idea of the quarantine zones is something you could
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extrapolate from the article, but the mass internment camps for citizens is just completely
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his own invention. So we see this again, like the last time with the Avian Flu release,
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he was lying based on lies of 9-11 blogger. In this case, he's just taking an article
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and making stuff up about it. And then Alex is reading it on air.
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What does he fucking do? This? He does Alex a really important service.
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No, but I mean like, what is he doing? Creating propaganda?
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On a day-to-day basis, this dude wakes up in the morning, reads bullshit or reality,
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and then just sits around being like, well, how can I write 500 words that are evil
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about this fairly innocuous thing? Yes. No, 100%. He gets up, scans the news,
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and probably tries to find a few things that fit in with Alex's narratives, repackages them
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as posts on Prison Planet, because Alex can't do that work on his own. He can barely read.
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No, of course not. So he does that for Alex. Alex can then take
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the Prison Planet article and read it because it's pre-sensationalized, and now he has content
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for his show. Whereas if Alex had to read this article out of the National Post, he'd
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have a much more difficult time with it because there are explanations for the things that
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they're trying to lie about. Right, exactly. Does he work for Alex?
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P.J. Dubs? Yeah.
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Yeah, absolutely. Really?
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Yeah, yeah. Has he quit yet?
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In present day? Yeah.
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No. Because that would be a smarter move.
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No, no. Bail. Bail. You've got your own brand now.
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Fucking bail on it. We've talked about this 100 times.
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Unless Alex owns Prison Planet, in which case he's fucked.
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He does. Oh, okay. Well, then he's fucked.
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Yeah. Alex had Prison Planet going, and Paul Joseph Watson was the editor-in-chief of it,
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and then he took it on as his moniker and Twitter handle and all that. But I believe Alex, if he's...
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You know what, Alex is very dumb. But if he's not the biggest idiot in the world,
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he would have retained rights to Prison Planet. Yeah, no, no, absolutely.
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That's a big giveaway. Yeah, you want to make sure that
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P.J. Dubs goes down with you. Yeah. So P.J. Dubs goes on to use a quote
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from the article to jump to an unrelated conclusion. So this is from his article.
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Oh, I'm sorry. This is a quote from the actual article, and then he follows it up with some
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analysis. Gotcha.
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Quote, the remodeling... Quotes heavy.
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Yes. Scare quotes heavy under analysis.
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The remodeling of the reserves will see the development of specialist units in four of
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the military's regional divisions, Atlantic, Quebec, Ontario, and the West. Now his analysis.
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This is an open announcement that Canada has been subdivided into military units
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and will be policed by military reservists. That's a joke.
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This is not an open announcement of anything of the sort. If you pay close attention to
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the language in the actual quote, this is a development of specialist units in four
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of the military's regional divisions. These regional divisions already exist.
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This is just an implementation of teams specifically trained in dealing with
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catastrophes that did not seem likely before but have entered people's minds now in 2009.
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Hey, so you know these guys who are trained to go do this one thing?
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Right.
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Well, there's this new thing. Maybe we should train specific guys who are doing that new thing.
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Yeah.
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And then the guys who are doing that old thing. You know, that way the guys who are just used
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to doing one thing don't just do that one thing to the people suffering from the new thing.
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Yeah. Yeah.
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So that's...
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Pretty simple.
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That's most of what's wrong with this Prison Planet article and Alex Jones' take on it
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and his fear-mongering that he's trying to do with it. But he's not done. Alex isn't done
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talking about it yet. But now you know the facts.
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Yeah.
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We are trying to establish a perimeter, said Brigadier General John Collin.
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I do like a Brigadier General.
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Do I see a scenario when we might be obliged to keep people in? Probably. Oh, probably.
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Let me read what the Brigadier General said. Do I see a scenario
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when we might be obliged to keep people in? Probably.
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Plus quote, you need to be trained to be able to make sure that you don't become a casualty
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in the process of doing security. That's another quote.
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You don't want to be a casualty when they're dealing with the Canadian people.
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So that quote that he's using is in the original article,
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but it's not really even in context in the original article.
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Yeah.
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But if I were to read that sentence, he's like, this Brigadier General is saying,
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do I see a situation when we might need to keep people in somewhere? Possibly.
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I would respond, so do I.
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Yeah.
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So do I.
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All right. So somebody set off a smallpox bomb.
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Right.
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And instead of just letting people run all willy-nilly, giving everybody smallpox.
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Not even smallpox bomb, accident.
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Yeah, absolutely.
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Accident that there's a contagion that you need to contain.
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We got to quarantine people because, you know, everybody's going to die.
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This is like a serious situation.
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Yeah.
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So we want to train people to not them themselves get the smallpox.
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Right.
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That would cause the, that would render the whole point moot.
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Right.
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Yeah.
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So that quote, he's trying to make it sound so nefarious, but it's not really.
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It's basically just the idea of containment.
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Yeah.
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You know, I don't see any way around this.
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Like I don't, I don't trust the powers that be in the world or anything like that,
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but you need better than this.
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Giving people smallpox is a first amendment right, Dan.
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You need better than this if you're going to make these arguments about this
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proving prison internment camps and shit like that.
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Yeah.
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I need, I need more from you.
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Yeah. That would, that would never be allowed in our constitution.
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Nope.
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Anyway, we would never have internment camps.
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In this next clip, Alex talks more about the Canadians and how they have a horrible plight.
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And then he gets back to what he really wants to be doing on this show,
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which is lazily promoting the Obama deception.
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Meanwhile, Canadian military units prepare to put their citizens in FEMA camps
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and for the military to patrol the streets of Canada openly being announced
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as it's openly being announced in every other Western nation
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being overtaken by the private banking syndicate, the criminals.
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You know, I began plugging the Obama deception, explosive release coming up this weekend.
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You got bored in the middle of your own story.
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Didn't even give out the toll free number.
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I believe I hope everybody will call and order the DVD now at 888-253-3139.
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Make sure to share it on Myspace.
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I'd say 888-253-3139.
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And I want you to get the DVD.
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I think like Rob Dude just hit him with a blow dart with some ether on it.
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There's something like that because he is like, listen to this.
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Listen to the tone of this voice.
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So wait, what? 888?
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I want you to make copies of it and get it out to everyone you know.
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Don't call it.
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When these Obama zombies come to your door promoting their new world order,
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launching them to do, you can give them the Obama deception,
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which is a red pill to get them out of the matrix.
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It is a rope, a ladder to help them get out of the muck of mind control
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and bondage that they're in.
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Oh boy.
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Long exhale.
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That like when he's starting to yell there about rope and bondage and stuff like that.
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That's the equivalent of like a guy who's in like a fight and like his arm has gone numb.
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And so he punches his own arm to try and get the feeling back.
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Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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Come on, come on, come on.
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You still got this.
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He's yelling to try and excite himself.
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And it's just not working.
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It's just oh bad.
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Wow.
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It's a bummer when Alex is bored by his own propaganda.
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And his own sales.
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Yeah.
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He's bored by both of them there.
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He clearly recognizes one, how weak his bullshit is.
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And then because it's so weak, he's like, I mean, I guess we'll,
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the Obama deception is coming out.
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Call our toll free number.
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My favorite thing there is that we're not even an hour into the episode, Alex's episode.
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And you now have the second time that he's insinuated that Obama zombies are going to
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show up at your door and you need to have Obama deception DVDs ready to give them.
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He's going to say it even more times.
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You missed an opportunity to say Obamby's and I'm out.
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No, he says Obama noids.
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Oh, he says Obama noids?
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That's his phrase.
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I prefer Obamby's.
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It's not bad, but I think it's too vague.
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It's not specific enough.
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I wouldn't, I wouldn't hear that and then be like, oh, that's a zombie Obama.
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Ooh, Barack Obamby's.
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Still not good.
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Okay, fine.
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You need the Z in there for zombies.
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Omby's doesn't, that doesn't make me think of zombies.
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What does it make you think of?
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Bob-ombs?
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Kind of, yeah.
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Yeah, I can see that.
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So now what's interesting about this-
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Sexo Bob-ombs!
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There we go.
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Is that a Tom Jones reference?
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No, it's a Scott Pilgrim versus the world reference.
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Sex Bomb?
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Sex Bob-omb.
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Oh, Sex Bomb is a Tom Jones song.
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Sex Bomb is a Tom Jones song.
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That's why I got it.
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Sex Bob-omb.
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Stop it!
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All right.
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I'm sorry.
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Now-
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When Alex gets bored, I start going crazy.
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Yeah, crunchy as hell.
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So in his next clip, we realize that this Canada story isn't really quite done.
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And that's because a couple days earlier, Paul Joseph Watson had written another story
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about the military in Canada and he references it in his new article, the one that Alex was
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just going over.
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So Alex brings that up by virtue of covering this story and that one's actually even more
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interesting.
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Finishing up with this article.
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The story dovetails with a report out of Ontario where authorities are considering using troops
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and then it admits in the article they're already doing it with a local army base to
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patrol bar areas on weekends.
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You're for stopping drunks, are you?
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See, same thing being done in the US.
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The Marines are here at the checkpoints to stop drunks.
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You're not for drunks, are you?
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We got to do something about the drunks.
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Meanwhile, they admit, oh, and by the way, we want to put you in FEMA camps.
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We're just getting you ready.
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Using troops from local army base to patrol bar areas on weekends and supposed attempt
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to prevent rowdiness.
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So this is really interesting because after going on a bunch, having a bunch more glaring
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reporting errors, Paul Joseph Watson then links back to this story that Alex is now
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referencing from six days prior about the militarization of the Canadian police.
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And he is 100% wrong about this.
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What?
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Alex is woefully misunderstanding this story.
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The version he's telling is that these troops from a nearby army base are being used in
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the city of Barrie because the drinking spots in that town are out of control and they need
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the military to come in and police them.
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In reality, if you review the Toronto Star article that Paul Joseph Watson is basing
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this post on, the story is very different.
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According to the Star, quote, city police and camp Borden officers are discussing using
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joint street patrols to help keep the peace in Barrie's busy entertainment district on
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peak weekends.
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The military police would deal only with their own personnel and not civilians in Barrie,
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Barrie police chief Wayne Frechette said.
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Quote, I think soldiers would be less inclined to cause trouble if they knew would come up
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with their bosses on Monday morning.
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Oh, that actually makes a lot of sense.
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It's like, I don't know, say there is an American army in some sort of country and instead of
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being allowed to, I don't know, rape and pillage to their heart's content, they were supervised
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by some sort of over, yeah, yeah, that might have helped in many, many, many, many historical
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situations.
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One of the things that I'm super excited about and really interested in is deconstructing
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how Paul Joseph Watson is lying back in 2009 because it's really interesting how he misuses
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sources.
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Like what we found with the avian flu thing with the 9-11 blogger, the sort of game of
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telephone he's using with sources, it's really interesting to see how, like, there's no way
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he's not doing this intentionally.
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Right.
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There's absolutely no chance.
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And one of the things that makes me realize that is that he does take a quote from this
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Toronto Star article, I can't remember if it's Sun or Star, these papers, just call
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yourself the Picayune.
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Wait, every paper is called the Picayune?
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It's fun.
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It's better.
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It is fun.
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I'm not going to get confused with anything else.
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I'm not disagreeing with you.
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So he uses the first half of a quote and doesn't use the second half, which invalidates the
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first half.
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Oh, God.
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Listen to this.
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Oh, God.
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So this is the part that Paul Joseph Watson does include.
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Quote, in addition, Joshua Abel, a Barrie bartender, told the Star that he'd not heard
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any reports of military personnel starting trouble.
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However, the part that Paul Joseph Watson neglects to include is the end of Abel's comment.
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Quote, on the other hand, if they are in civilian clothes, how would you know whether or not
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they're in the military?
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Oh, my God.
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How do you leave that part out?
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Because you're trying to make the other point.
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You're trying to trick people.
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Right.
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So of course you don't leave them the part of the quote that's like, I wouldn't know
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if they were military to begin with.
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Right.
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He's trying to present the idea that there is no military rowdiness problem that military
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that military police could help keep in line.
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It's all just about the fascist state coming in and tyranny and FEMA in Canada.
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Yeah, I wrote down like, does Canada even have FEMA?
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They can't.
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It's a federal emergency management that's American.
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So that puts us squarely in the belief that PJ Dubs does not have some sort of paranoid
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schizophrenia.
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He might also.
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He is a direct liar.
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It might be both.
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It could be both.
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I don't know why you can't have six, one half a dozen for the other.
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That's possible.
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That's possible.
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You're not wrong.
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I think you could have a latent paranoia that you choose to use.
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You know how a lot of stand up comics are super mentally unhealthy and they use that
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to their advantage?
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No.
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What?
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Huh?
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Yeah.
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Dan, how dare you?
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I think there might be something like that.
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My psychiatrist would disagree with you.
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Because I think at this point, after so many years and so much damage done, if Paul Joseph
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Watson wasn't slightly crazy, I think he would recognize, like, I gotta stop this.
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Or something like that.
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But that might just be me painting him with a little more humanity than he may have.
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Yeah.
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We all thought the same of Aung San Suu Kyi.
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That's a concrete example of him taking this story and completely lying in order to make
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his own point.
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Yeah.
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And then it needs to be further reinforced that that's fine under Canadian law.
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Yeah.
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If the police in Barrie decide that we could use some help from these troops, it is well
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within the law for them to just do that.
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That's not a problem.
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So all of this is a hot load of nothing.
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But the reason that Alex is kind of like, I feigned a little bit of ignorance when you're
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like, what is he talking about FEMA in Canada?
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Yeah.
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It's because he kind of thinks that Mexico, Canada, and America are already the North
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American Union.
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Oh, okay.
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And also he kind of thinks that we all are subject to the Queen of England.
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Oh, I do not know that.
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At least in 2009.
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I believe he does think that based on this next clip.
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And we are under the Queen's control.
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Obama, of course, would have kneeled before her out of the globalist summit.
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An unprecedented act by a US president.
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They're publicly knighting the last gaggle of crooks that left the Bush administration.
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The move is upon us.
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The Bush military and financial dictatorship over our beloved republic.
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Oh, man, we are in trouble.
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That happened quick.
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We are in trouble because the Queen is in charge.
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Obama is going to kneel before her, which is an unprecedented sort of thing.
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I mean, you might have President Bush kissing a Saudi prince.
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I would guess that I would guess that other presidents have knelt before the Queen before.
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I don't know that to be true.
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I also don't care if they do.
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Yeah, I don't give a shit.
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So, so this whole Queen character.
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Yeah.
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She controls everything.
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Everything.
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She controls everything.
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Oh, so I have bad news.
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What's that?
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Unless the Bush people that Alex is referring to were British citizens,
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technically they can't be knighted.
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That's he's saying that all these Bush.
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No, I think he was talking about the people from Australia from the Bush.
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But they're still under.
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They can totally be knighted.
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Can't they?
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Yeah, maybe.
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I think Australians can be knighted.
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I think that, well, from what I understand is that if you're not a British citizen,
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so I guess if you lived in Australia and you were a British citizen, I don't know how that works.
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I don't know how that works either.
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I'm not an expert on that.
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Fuck that part.
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Don't hold that against me if I'm wrong.
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But if you're not a British citizen, you can just get an honorary title,
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which allows you to put the suffix KBE after your name, but you aren't knighted and you cannot call
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yourself sir. In 2009, Ted Kennedy and John Warner were giving the honorific title at KBE.
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The latter might be seen as a Bush guy, but calling Ted Kennedy that is pretty much a big stretch.
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Before that, it was five years since an American in politics was named KBE,
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and that was Robert Wooster.
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In 2002, Alan Greenspan and Rudy Giuliani got the honors of being named
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KBE. Well, he was America's mayor. He was really shiny after 9-11.
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Can they take that back?
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Interestingly, they can.
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Can they?
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They haven't from Rudy Giuliani, but it turns out the awarding of these honorary titles has
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not always gone great. For example, in 1923, they awarded one to Benito Mussolini.
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That's probably not great.
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Then they annulled that title in 1940, or one time they gave a Nikolai Ceausescu one.
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Ceausescu got one?
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In 1978.
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What? What?
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Yeah, Ceausescu got one.
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God damn it.
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They annulled that one in 1989.
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This is why we can't have the queen running things, Dan.
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Or that one time they gave an honorific title to Robert Mugabe.
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I was actually going to say, did they give it to Mugabe?
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That was going to be my joke. That was going to be my joke answer to that. Jesus Christ.
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In 1994, they gave Mugabe the same KBE title. They annulled that one in 2008.
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No real evidence that any new Bush players have been awarded these titles,
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and to present day even. Even Obama administration people haven't been given them.
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Yeah, I'm fine with all of that.
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But we got Bono. We got Angelina Jolie. We got Steven Spielberg.
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Oh, that's right. Bono isn't a British citizen.
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No.
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Gotcha.
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Yeah. That was foolish of me, and it took me a second.
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That's the cool thing about these titles, though, too. If you aren't a British citizen,
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and you get one, and then later you become a British citizen, you're automatically a knight.
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Oh, really? Is that how that works?
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You become a sir if you become a citizen later.
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No shit.
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A bunch of people have done it.
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God damn it, Giuliani. Get on that shit.
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You gotta go.
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Nobody wants you here.
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Yeah, you gotta get out.
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Become a knight.
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That's a really good excuse to become a British citizen.
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I bet if you fucked around and tried that, they would probably annul it.
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Yeah, or you would get a triple double.
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Yeah. So this is all great.
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Has Ice Cube gotten a KBE?
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No, but Kevin Spacey did in 2015.
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I assume it's just waiting to be annulled.
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I assume that one's going to be taken away pretty quick.
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You gotta assume.
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Oh, Christ.
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The thing, though, is the specifics of the people who are given them are people who have
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some sort of a relationship to Britain.
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Right.
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They have some sort of, like, I'm sure with Kevin Spacey, it was through some sort of
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acting Shakespearean.
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Sure. Fine. Fuck off.
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And humanitarian things with, like, Angelina Jolie and Bono.
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Right.
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So, you know, you have...
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And, of course, the willingness to wear sunglasses at all hours of the day.
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They have, well, if that was the case, Corey Hart would be a knight.
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Corey Hart is a knight.
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So, look, they've misfired a number of times, to say the least.
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Wait, hold on. The British monarchy is misfired?
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You bet.
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How could you imagine such a situation?
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I mean, Mussolini, Ceausescu, and Mugabe is a murderer's row.
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That is a literal murderer's row.
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It's bad.
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But at the same time, each of them had a moment when it didn't look like they were going to
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be as bad as they were.
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Right. Like Aung San Suu Kyi.
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Right.
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Yeah.
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She got a Nobel Peace Prize.
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At a lot of people's point of history, before they break terribly, you know, they go way
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in the wrong direction.
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Right.
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There's that glimmer of hope and that look of, like, this might work out.
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Maybe if we give somebody the Peace Prize, they won't commit a genocide.
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And that's just not been the case.
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That's just not been the case.
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So, now we get to about the hour point in the show.
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I only know that because Alex comes back from break right at about an hour, and he's got
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the doctor, Ron Paul.
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Oh, wait.
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Ron Paul is on this one?
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Ron Paul.
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For real, Ron Paul?
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Why are you surprised by that?
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He's on the punch.
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I don't know.
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I haven't seen...
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I don't think we've ever done an episode where Ron Paul is on.
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You bet we have.
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Okay, fair enough.
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It's been a long time since we've done an episode where Ron Paul is on.
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There have been a number of times, too, I think when he's been on, and I've just been like,
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who gives a shit?
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Because it's just his standard sort of fare.
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A lot of the time when he's on, he does this, like, sort of a Steve Pechenik role here
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in 2009 in some ways.
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Steve Pechenik's not back on the scene until, I think, 2012.
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I think he's laying low in 2009.
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Right, right, right.
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So, like, at this point...
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Too many hurricanes around.
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At this point, Alex has got narratives that he wants reinforced, and he wants someone
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who has some sort of external authority and credibility to get his back.
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So he'll have Ron Paul on, and he'll just be like, what about this X, Y, or Z thing?
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He's like, well, yes, absolutely.
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That's something we need to be concerned about, but let's on at the Fed.
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It always comes back to auditing the Fed, basically.
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Didn't they do that?
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They do.
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They do it regularly.
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It's not the way they want them to.
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Pretty sure Bernie was instrumental in getting the Fed audited, right?
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Now, interesting you should bring...
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But he's definitely a bad guy.
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Interesting you should bring that up.
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Ron Paul has an interesting take on Bernie Sanders in 2009.
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It's a good issue.
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Like, so many of our issues, we bring different factions together, liberal and conservatives,
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under the Constitution, because if you're a good, honest liberal like Bernie Sanders,
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he's an honest person, but he's very, very liberal and calls himself a socialist.
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So Alex even is like, yep.
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He's an honest person, but he's very liberal.
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As if those two things are shocking to have next to each other.
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You gotta get past that.
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Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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Sorry.
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I just couldn't help but notice that.
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According to Alex's John Birch Society, none dare call it conspiracy roots,
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socialism is a trick to get you into communism, which is authoritarianism.
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So the very idea that he has Ron Paul on his show saying,
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he's great, you know, he's a good kind of liberal, he's a socialist,
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but he's a good kind of guy is an invalidation of the idea that
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socialism is a trick to get you into communism.
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Because even if he agrees with you on auditing the Fed,
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you can't fucking sign up with this guy who's trying to trick everyone into authoritarianism.
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Absolutely not.
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No.
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No.
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It's all bumpus bumpus.
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The enemy of my enemy is still a fucking monster trying to get us into communism.
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Right. And Alex is the same.
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He's on the same page as Ron Paul.
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He's very pro Bernie Sanders in 2009.
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Of course.
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Because he's working for transparency with the Fed in the aftermath of the 2008 crisis.
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Right.
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So.
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No, it takes a really strong propaganda effort to get you to not be on board with Bernie Sanders.
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Like, his message is really kind of universal unless you're a billionaire.
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Like, there's no, there's no, if you're just like a regular person, there's no like,
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Ugh, I hate him because he wants health care for me.
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And he wants the, he wants the rich to pay more taxes than me.
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And he's saying, Ugh, I hate him.
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He's the kind of guy, too, though, that has, there's a lot of possibilities for people to,
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like, misinterpret him.
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And that's why the propaganda of the right is so, is fairly effective against him.
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Yeah, and yet at the same time he's still the most popular politician in America.
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Right.
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So anyway, I want to take the piss out of Ron Paul a little bit, but we've already talked
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about how he was probably involved in taking over the Dominica, that island nation.
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He was probably involved with that white supremacist takeover.
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Little bit.
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He very clearly was involved in the writing of his racist ass newsletter for years.
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He might have been, who knows.
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He's also got some fucking dumb ideas about the economy, although I do appreciate him
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wanting to legalize weed and being non-interventionist.
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Yes.
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I do appreciate those things.
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Great.
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Good work, Ron.
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But your standard dickhole who comes on Alex Jones's show basically wants to spread fear
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about how the dollar is going to collapse and that you should buy gold.
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That's pretty much the standard operating procedure for most of his guests back in 2009.
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Let's see if Dr. Ron Paul is any different.
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We all have to be prepared.
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I think we should prepare our families.
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And, uh, I think financially, ultimately they're going to destroy the dollar.
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I don't, I don't see anything wrong with people believing in the constitution and following
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what they thought should be legal tender and owning a few gold coins and a few silver coins
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and on how to defend themselves.
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That's what, that's what the founders talked about.
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With a folksy voice.
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Hey, wait, wait, wait.
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So the founders, if I understand correctly, the founders' mission was like, hey, own a
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couple gold coins, own some silver coins, know how to defend yourself.
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No big deal.
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That's the constitution.
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Write it up.
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All right.
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Good work founders.
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So, I mean, Ron Paul just with the sort of old man, uh, all shocks voice is the exact
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same as Bob Chapman coming on his show.
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Yep.
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He's, he's spitting out some of the very similar, uh, sort of, uh, messages.
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No, it's okay.
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If you're a God-fearing American, maybe you can go to South Africa and rape their lands,
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but you know, you own a couple of gold coins, you get a few, you get a few blood diamonds,
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you move on, you go on.
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So, um, now Ron Paul has left and Alex is left to his own devices.
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And what do you know?
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He gets back to promoting the Obama deception.
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He is still obsessed with the idea of giving out these DVDs when Obama zombies come to
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your door, but he takes it a step further that stinks of desperation.
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And so what we need to do is every time they come to your door, you need to counter it
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with the Obama deception.
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Uh, but more than that, go out, go to.
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By the way, before we get to this, that really sounds like a Final Fantasy situation.
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Yes, it does.
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The Obama zombies come to your door and then you counter them with the Obama deception
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DVD.
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Right, right, right.
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You use the counter materia, which of course you've, uh, developed enough AP points to
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get.
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You better.
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All right.
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Well, if you pay, uh.
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I mean, if you have a master counter materia, you're going to counter almost 80% of the
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time.
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You gotta buy those AP points though from the, uh, Info Wars store.
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You don't buy AP points, Dan.
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You earn them from the Info Wars store.
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But more than that, go out, go to usaservice.org.
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Every small town, every big city has Obama-noid zombie meetings.
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This is like the early Nazi party, but they mean well.
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They think they're repudiating Bush.
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They don't know it's the same agenda on steroids.
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You need to reach out to them.
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You need to go to their meetings and say, Oh yeah, I'm against Bush.
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Oh, all the secret arrests in the wars, but what about Obama?
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Check out this film.
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Tell me what you think about it.
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And they're real cult-like.
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The leaders will try to kick you out, but some will notice and say, Hey, that's wrong
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and say, okay, we'll come outside.
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If you want me to give you DVDs and then have a camera with you and it'll, you know,
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knowing them, I mean, they might start calling the cops.
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Get out of here.
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Get out of the library.
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Get up.
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You're like, well, I'm allowed to be here.
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I just came to your meeting because I like, like you're a terrorist or something.
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How dare him?
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He wanting to stop Obama, Lord.
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And then you can show that video of them flipping out.
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Alex is completely imagining this scenario, but what he does want is for people to go
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agitate in places with his DVDs, get video of it.
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And then that's buzz marketing.
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Alex, from a very early point, understood the value of that sort of sensational video
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content.
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And so that's kind of impressive.
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That's why Jack, like Jack Pessobic and all, and all of those fucking guys.
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That's why they are his children.
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Exactly. It's not to say that other people weren't making prank videos back then, but
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possibly not to the extent of like harnessing that as a marketing tool.
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Alex is very savvy about that.
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And you can hear it in this, what he's telling his audience to do.
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He's telling them to go out and bait people into yelling at you, which he can then use
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for marketing.
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Right.
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As like, oh, look, they're so scared of this innocuous DVD, the Obama deception.
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I'm not saying that if you have a copy of the Obama deception, you shouldn't be allowed
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in the library.
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I can't believe anyone ever bought one.
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What I'm saying is that every library should have like a metal detector, but it only detects
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copies of the Obama deception.
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And if you have one, you have to leave it at the door.
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It's comical to me that anyone ever would buy this DVD.
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Isn't it just on YouTube?
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It's free everywhere.
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Yeah, it's insane to me.
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But anyway.
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Then Obama click on the support the show online, and then they'll go watch.
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The Obama deception is going to be everywhere for free, but you get it in high quality at
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prison planet TV and the DVD at Infowars.com.
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Folks, we're launching this sucker.
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I want you to go to Infowars.com.
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If you've got a bookstore or a church or a school or, you know, a convenience store,
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a gas station, everything Obama sells.
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Know that incredible hype out there.
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And so you got the stack of them sitting there and they're like, what are those?
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Oh, that's the Obama deception that gets into how he's really working with Bush and others.
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Really?
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I want to see that.
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That's another imagined interaction.
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Anything Obama sells.
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So please buy my shit in bulk.
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You'll be able to move.
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And I promise you, everyone's going to want to buy this.
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Buy a bunch.
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You got a gas station.
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Buy a ton of them.
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We all know how those DVD racks are full of quality programming at gas stations.
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All the times that we've gone and done road shows ended up at like some fucking gas station
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with a shower in it.
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Yeah, come on.
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Killing a little bit of time at that truck stop.
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You watch it.
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You watch the Obama deception.
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What's this fake Iron Man movie?
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Oh, good.
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Oh, that one's actually good.
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Oh, Alex Jones is in this fucking wreck.
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It's called Ferris Man.
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Right.
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It's pretty good.
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I told you up top at the beginning of this episode that Alex Jones had a retraction to
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make.
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Yes.
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And I said, you know, I fucking hoped it would be about Tony Alamo because that was pretty
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disgraceful at the end of the last episode.
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I still got my fingers crossed for Ozzie Mandamus.
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All right, I'm going to spend five minutes with Jason Mernis for a quick retraction in
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and then a beef up.
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It's a retraction and then a beef up.
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So it's a retraction and then a doubling down.
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It would be followed by a beef up.
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A beef up?
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We all know.
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What's a beef up?
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We've all witnessed a classic beef up.
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What is a beef up?
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You've never been to a beef up?
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I've never been to a beef up.
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Oh, man.
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That's when you take a bad argument.
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Is it one word or is it two words?
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Hyphenated.
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It's hyphenated.
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Compound word.
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Okay.
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You take a bad argument and then you're like, well, I was really actually right.
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That's basically what you're doing.
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Okay.
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That's what a beef up is?
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That's a beef up.
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All right.
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Okay.
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Now, I made it clear on air yesterday that Mr. Moore, who wrote the Watchmen novel, that
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I'm not a comic book reader, and so I just got the book Sunday.
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Stand through it after I'd seen the film Saturday.
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The whole film was the Illuminati, the pyramid corporation of staging terror attacks for
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your own good.
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It's a wonderful thing to bring in an age of love and peace and the new God man that
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will develop and travel the stars.
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Nope.
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And then Mernus said, oh, yeah, he was also involved in that.
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Look, really missed the point on that.
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Dr.
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Manhattan was not a God man that developed like humanity will become Dr.
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Manhattan.
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No, that was one character on an arc, and he was fucked up.
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Yeah, he was the result of an accident.
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Yeah.
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Even the character himself was like, isn't it fucked up that this is me?
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I don't want to do this.
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Yeah.
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Fucked up my life.
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This is gross.
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Yeah.
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I was just a dude.
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I was going to have sex and stuff.
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My lady doesn't love me anymore.
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No.
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Yeah.
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And neither can I love anyone.
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No.
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The Sandman thing.
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So I mentioned that, and then people emailed me and drove saying, no, he's not Mernus to
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clarify.
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There was a collaboration between the Sandman and another novel.
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That's why Alan Moore is always getting mad because they twist his stuff.
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But he did pull up some of the and since then, we've done research.
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The guy openly is a Mason. He openly says he's into the occult.
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He openly says he does all this.
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Regardless, you see the film that they staged terror attacks to bring in world peace.
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I mean, that's the whole point we're making about the Watchmen.
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Then we're going to briefly talk about Bernie Madoff.
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All right, whatever.
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All right.
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The Bernie Madoff stuff is again the same.
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Like, he's not going to prison.
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So his retraction is that Neil Gaiman didn't write.
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No, no, his retraction is like, I said he did Sandman.
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He didn't really, but there's some crossover, which apparently there is.
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You know, like there is like, I don't remember what graphic novel.
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I'm not worried about it.
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Yeah, it's not important, but there is like a spiritual connection between Alan Moore's
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work and Neil Gaiman's.
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But there's also a spiritual connection between Alan Moore's work and Lovecraft.
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There's a spiritual connection.
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Yeah, I think I remember Rorschach showing up in Good Omens, the Terry Pratchett and
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Neil Gaiman novel.
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Well, this is just an interesting instance of like, Alex misinterpreted the hell out
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of Watchmen, kept saying Ozzie Mandamus, and then said that Alan Moore did Sandman.
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Which he did not do.
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He retracted one of these things.
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Yes, the most important one.
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To be fair, it was the most factually based.
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It's interesting though.
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As opposed to pronunciation based.
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It's so interesting to me.
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Why did you need to do that?
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There's no reason to do that.
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It's crazy.
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There's somebody who works there who made a stink about it.
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Probably.
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There was just might have been Burmus.
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Yeah, no, Burmus himself was probably like, hey, look, everything was cool.
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It's Ozzie Mandamus.
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But I'm not going to fight you on that one.
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But seriously, Sandman is maybe the greatest graphic novel ever written.
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And if you're not going to respect that it was Neil Gaiman, I got it.
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I'm going to quit.
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This is a resignation level offense, Alex.
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And you'll notice you won't notice because we're not listening to all of this sort of
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chat that they have.
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Alex doesn't say Ozzie Mandius's name at all.
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There's no indication that he's realized he was wrong, but also he doesn't say it, which
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means...
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By the absence of it, it's most likely he knows.
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It's conspicuous in its absence, is the pronunciation.
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So now, that is the retraction.
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Are you interested in the beef up?
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I am interested in the beef up.
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Now, this is a mic down.
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Neil Gaiman actually wrote The Watchman.
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Nope.
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This is a mic down situation because Jason Burmas is about to come in with some Alan
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Moore wisdom that is so crazy and goes all over the place.
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You have to hear all of it.
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There's nuance here.
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So as a preemptive, is it a wisdom about Alan Moore, Alan Moore's wisdom, or is it wisdom
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with an Alan Moore flair?
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It's supposed wisdom about Alan Moore that actually betrays...
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How little wisdom he has.
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And a pretty misogynistic element of just Burmese.
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From somebody in the Info Wars?
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Yeah, it's weird.
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He did V for Vendetta too, but he's also a practicing magician.
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And he actually worships a Roman snake deity named...
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I think it's pronounced Gyklon, which he acknowledges to be a hoax.
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Real quick, I just want to stop there, because if you hear that, he's like, well, he's a
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practicing magician and he worships a Roman snake god named Gyklon, but he said that's
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a hoax.
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Like, yeah, probably was.
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It probably was a bunch of dumb bullshit.
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So even in his insinuation of like, he worships this god, I mean, admittedly, he said that
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was all bullshit that he was making up to make people like me say dumb shit like what
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I just said.
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Exactly.
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Gotcha.
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Good work.
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Good work, Burmas.
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That's what the kids now call a self-own.
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Yes, it is.
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But he says magic is synonymous with art, and his understanding is that it's the use
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of words, images, and actions to affect people and the way they think.
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Yeah, archival.
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That's what their real religion is, is numbers, symbols to manipulate our subconscious.
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Yeah, so he's into that openly.
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I mean, he's got, you know, a wife, a girlfriend.
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Just see how the guy looks and dresses.
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You can tell right away that he's into this, you know, supernatural realm.
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What? The fact that Alan Moore can get laid is
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evidence of the supernatural.
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Look at how the guy dresses.
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Beef up.
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He believes that magic is the ability to use words to make changes in the physical world.
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Magic is essentially art.
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Yeah.
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What kind of monster would believe that?
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Oh my god, that's a philosophically very interesting perspective wherein I put down
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my thoughts and I create something that I believe is evocative of some thing I want
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to express and people read it and their minds are changed.
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Isn't that somehow magical?
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I think that's a very interesting perspective to have on the art of, like, just the act
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of creation and the act of taking in a creation.
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Yeah, which is essentially the theme behind Neil Stevenson's Snow Crash, which is, again,
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a fantastic book.
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Highly recommend.
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It's something that is not...
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It's a little bogged down at the end, but don't worry about it.
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That's not the most, like, high level, like, doctoral thesis version of, like, understanding
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how art affects people, but, like, their stupid shit about, like, it's archetypal.
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They're just trying to manipulate us.
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It just, it falls on deaf ears and then the part about, like, you look at how this guy
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looks.
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He's married or has a girlfriend.
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If he's getting fucked, you know there's magic involved.
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You know there's magic involved.
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It's just, like, I don't know if that's a joke.
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Like, I really don't.
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Because they don't laugh afterwards.
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That's true.
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I don't know if that's supposed to be a burn.
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Dude, have they ever heard of Alan Parsons?
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Because they have no idea what's actually in store for them when they read about that
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shit.
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I think the next break he comes in with the Alan Parsons project.
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Oh, does he?
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Oh, no, not Alan Parsons.
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Jack.
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Jack Parsons, isn't it?
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Yeah.
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Yeah, shit.
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He does know about Jack Parsons.
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He's complaining about his demonicness.
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How is it that I miss...
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Oh, God, that's terrible.
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Very similar names.
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Yeah.
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So, Jordan, that was the retraction and the beef up.
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The beef up was the only way more gets fucked is if magic is real.
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And he's a magician and he worships a snake god.
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But it was a hoax and also magic is art.
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So now we get into a portion of the show.
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If I was grading that paper from, like, an English 101 as a freshman, I would be like,
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hey, you know, there's only one criminal sin, and that's using...
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He paints a picture with words as a legitimate phrase.
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The other sin is whatever the fuck you just said, go away forever.
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Third is using more than five exclamation points in the course of your career.
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Oh, you cannot do that.
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What?
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Yep.
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Exclamation points.
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Dirty pool.
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So, Jordan, now we enter this portion of the show that is probably, I think, one of the
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most interesting things I've heard in a long time on Alex's show.
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He has to fill time.
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He's got a couple guests coming up towards the end of the show, but he's got, like, this gap.
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And so he decides to take calls.
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And he gets some fucking really bad calls.
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Yeah.
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But it's super interesting to me that Alex handles those calls very well.
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Really?
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This is a hallmark of our show, is when Alex does a good job, we're not afraid to...
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We've got to call it out.
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We're not afraid to admit it.
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He has a couple callers who are like the depths of how stupid his fucking audience is.
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Yeah.
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And he does not handle them terribly.
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Now, I will admit that when he does do something good, it is evidence that magic is real.
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Absolutely.
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Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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So this first one is a poet.
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Larry in California, you're on the air worldwide.
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Yeah, hey, Alex?
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Yes, sir.
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Are you with me?
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Yeah, sure.
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Got you on the line right now, bro.
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You're on the air, man.
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I want to say this, man.
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I do not support the troops in Iraq.
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I, in fact, I wrote a little poem.
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Can I... I'm making a song out of it.
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It's called, if you are an American with a gun in Iraq, I hope you come back in a body
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sack.
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If you're an American with a gun in the Middle East, I hope you get debarred by the beast.
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If you're an American with a gun in Pakistan, I hope you die where you stand.
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Sir, sir, listen, I happen to have family over in Iraq and Afghanistan, and they joined
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for reasons they believe were good.
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They bought the propaganda, and it doesn't hurt the New World Order for the troops to
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get killed.
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You know, I really don't want to sit here hoping that I hope Iraqis don't die.
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I hope the troops don't die.
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I hope the troops don't die in combat with the American people.
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I want to avert this, you know.
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I understand you're angry and upset.
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There is over a million, 300,000 Iraqis dead, many of them children.
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But, you know, you know, I don't hope people die that have had abortions.
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I just hope they wake up to what they've been part of and repent.
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I mean, I just, you know what?
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I appreciate your call, and you can hate me if you want, Larry, but I'm just not going
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to let that go any further.
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OK, like, take holy shit.
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Take the abortion part out because we know what we know about Alex.
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Yeah, like everything else that is professional handling of that call.
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Now, granted, he has the ability to just hit the mute button.
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So, like, yeah, I can't keep yelling.
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Yeah, yeah, that's a really good response to that guy.
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You know?
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Yeah, that's really good.
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Yeah.
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I don't think in the moment I would be able to do that well with that guy.
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I would probably be like, what's the next stanza?
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Holy shit.
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Yeah, pretty crazy.
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Holy shit, man.
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Yeah.
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I mean, yeah, I would like to know what the next stanza is.
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Also, that last one was a slant rhyme.
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You know what?
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You know, what is it with you and slant rhymes?
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I think it's an impure version of poetry.
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All right.
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Impure.
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A-A-B-B-A-A-B-B.
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What are you?
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What are you?
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Shakespearean?
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What are you doing here?
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It's not A close to A in a rhyme scheme.
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It's A-A.
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Jordan, this next call that Alex receives is worse.
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Very much worse.
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Yeah.
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But also, I gotta give Alex some props for how he handles it.
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Really?
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This could go terribly.
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So, would you say that hope is a thing with feathers?
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Is that a poem?
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By Emily Dillon.
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I'm an eight-year subscriber.
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I've been distributing your material since 2000,
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beginning with America Destroyed by Design on VHS tape back then.
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Awesome.
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Over 6,000.
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Well over 6,000.
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I got a big Xerox.
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We've only had presentplanet.tv, though, for five years,
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but I appreciate you being a subscriber.
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No, no, I've been distributing your stuff.
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Oh, awesome.
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Awesome.
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Starting with America Destroyed by Design.
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Awesome.
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I cry often concerning the events of 9-11, as I've lost three friends,
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two of whom were blown to smithereens by Controlled Demolition Incorporated.
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Jordan, you don't know where this is going.
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I beg you to...
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I know we just had a mic down clip recently.
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No, no, no.
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I'm just writing shit down.
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I'm not talking right now.
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I'm just afraid you're going to yell over this,
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and you need to experience the...
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All right, all right.
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I'm going to put the mic down again.
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You need to experience the turn.
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This is unprecedented.
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How many mic down clips do we have?
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It's only two so far.
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I know.
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It comes very fast, though, and you'll get whiplash.
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All right.
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So he's talking about 9-11.
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And I know people who've lost over a dozen loved ones that fateful day.
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I'd just like to air a few grievances briefly in a succinct, G-rated manner.
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I'm extremely peed off.
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I wish you'd put up a Fred Tobin banner linked to the book,
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Did Six Million Really Die?
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So real quick, in case anyone didn't pick up on what you just responded to by screaming,
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this guy is a Holocaust denier.
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So...
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And he's asking Alex to promote other Holocaust deniers.
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So two or three people he knows died in 9-11, which of course reinforces his belief that
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the Holocaust was a hoax.
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Yes, the Holocaust.
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So all of this is to say that this guy...
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I mean, we're getting a nice cross-section of Alex's listeners, by the way, because this
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guy has been promoting Alex's shit for years.
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Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
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But he's just like, why don't you come out and say that the Holocaust was a bullshit
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thing?
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There's a weird poet, and then immediately followed by a Holocaust denier who's been
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a fan of his for years.
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Yeah.
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Also shocked that Holocaust is not already an Alex Jones documentary, right?
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Well, Alex would never touch that.
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He knows better.
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He's got time.
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But, like, I think you can appreciate what I was saying.
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That turn came out of nowhere.
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That was fast!
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So now we get to him.
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He keeps talking for a little bit, and then...
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9-11 bad.
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Holocaust, not real.
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That's too...
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There should be a middle...
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Oh, boy.
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There should be an A to B to C, not an A to F, Y, and X on fire.
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So I don't think Alex's response is perfect, but it's pretty good.
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Okay.
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Cancer, you've disconnected them.
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Seems you've found a lucrative career in the patriot business, making poor people run
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around facing their tails without being no real solutions.
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It's getting on the radio every day.
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Okay, let's stop right there.
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Let's stop right there.
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We're moving to try to get the states to declare sovereignty.
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We are moving to have the bankers arrested and had a congressman on saying it 30 minutes
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ago.
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That was Ron Paul.
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Real quick, it's not great that his first initial reaction to rebut is the idea that
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he doesn't offer solutions, because that's what he's doing here.
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He's saying...
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He's responding to the guy saying, like, you don't offer solutions, you're just trying
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to scare people.
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So Alex is like, we have all these 10th Amendment resolution guys on.
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Ron Paul is on talking about arresting the bankers.
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And he's like, well, you should probably deal with the most pressing issue first, but I
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understand that you've got to spin your wheels a little bit and get your bearings.
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35 minutes is going to be technical.
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We are moving to have an audit of the private Federal Reserve.
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We are moving to have the American people say no to martial law.
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You know, I have you on the show, we don't screen your call, you come on here, and you
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sit here, and you insult, and you attack me, and you say all these terrible things about
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me, and you say that I'm giving no solutions.
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I make a film that has cost me probably $80,000 or more to make, and I am going to release
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it for free on the Internet, highqualityatprisonplanet.tv, and you call in and you say I'm bad.
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You call in and you say I'm evil.
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You know, here's the issue.
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I don't like the things Israel does, and I criticize Israel.
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But I also don't want to be associated with the type of scum that maketh their lives to
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simply hate Jews and everybody else.
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Do you understand I don't like what Israel's doing, and I don't like you either.
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It's very, very simple, and I hope you realize that.
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You could have had your say, sir.
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You could have had a spew of lies, so find another show.
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I respect that.
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That's not a terrible answer.
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When you have someone who's coming on your show, I mean, it's not great that he let him
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get as far as to, like, actually promote these people who are Holocaust deniers that he thinks
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Alex should promote.
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You know, it's not great that the call made it that far, but on another level, because
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Alex has this, like, ethos of I'm not going to screen my calls, you guys can come in.
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Like, on the last episode, he's talking about how people used to sell tractors on his show,
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like, I got a tractor in Missouri for sale.
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I kind of respect that in terms of letting people speak their piece, and in this instance,
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and in this instance, we have such a stark contrast in 2009 and the present, when he
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was in that drunk hotel interview, and he refused to engage with the idea that Nazis,
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like, he has people who are Nazis who are really into him.
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Right.
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Here we have an instance where a Nazi who's really into him is calling into the show in
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2009 talking about how the Holocaust isn't real, and Alex goes so far as to say, I don't
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care for what Israel's doing, but you people who are anti-Semitic, I don't want to be
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associated with you.
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I don't like Israel, and I don't like you.
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See, that's what I want.
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That's my favorite part, which is a line that I think I'm going to start using from now
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on.
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Anytime somebody makes me mad, I'm just gonna be like, listen, I don't like what Israel's
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doing, and I don't like you either.
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I like that.
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That's like, that's a solid line.
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In the middle of this episode where he's lying about the Canadian military and desperately
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trying to sell his stupid documentary, I can't say that I don't respect that, you know?
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I do think that's a good response.
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There's another way he could have answered that call, and I think he would have answered
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it differently now.
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So though it pains me, I'll tip my cap to Alex for that response.
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Yeah.
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Could have done way, way worse.
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So now we come back to the show.
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He's gotten through these calls, still isn't at the point when his guest is supposed to
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call in, and it's kind of spinning his wheels a little bit.
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So he decides to sell the Obama deception a little bit more.
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Quick question.
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In 2018, where we are now, does he still take calls now that he's not...
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He always says he's gonna take calls, and then pretty much never gets to them.
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Yeah, but he's like, there are still people who can call in though, right?
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Yeah, but they almost never get through.
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People, like, he'll end up saying, we're gonna take calls, and then he'll start rambling
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about bullshit.
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He'll take one call, and then I'm out of time.
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So people do...
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Like, there are still calls though.
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I'm just interested to know if...
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I would say that in the episode...
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Because if he's on terrestrial radio and podcast, it's hard to imagine that people would know
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exactly when he records if they weren't already...
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Well, because he broadcasts live, they know when he's on air.
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But then he doesn't say, we're gonna take calls on every episode.
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And many times when he says, we're gonna get to calls, he never...
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Does not get to calls.
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So it's a crapshoot.
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Gotcha.
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It's much less a part of his show than it used to be.
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Right.
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That's for sure.
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Okay.
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He still pretends that it is a part of his show.
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Yeah, that's a fair way to say it.
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Gotcha.
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Okay, cool.
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So in this next clip, Alex gets back to selling the Obama deception, and boy, things take
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a turn.
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Is this where they turn?
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Let's do a couple about Trump.
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You know, I can't talk about what's going on behind the scenes right now here, but I'll
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tell you this, ladies and gentlemen, they do not want the Obama deception to come out.
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I'm gonna tell you right now, look for launch in the next 12 hours.
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Let me tell you, this stuff's real.
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So like Sunday?
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The intimidation.
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The things we go through here.
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So real.
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They confirm everything we know about the enemy.
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It doesn't matter.
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You're only alive once, ladies and gentlemen.
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Are you?
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The enemy knows the sleeping giant that is liberty and freedom is rising.
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They know you have power.
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That's why they're trying to block us every way they have.
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So I will tell everybody right now, the Obama deception is gonna drop.
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It's probably dropping today.
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Get ready at prisonplanet.tv.
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I'm being forced to do this because we may not have a chance if we wait.
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And I'm showing my hand of the enemies listening right now.
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Launch the operation, launch it, launch it at all sites.
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Just go ahead and launch it, launch it right now.
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Just made that decision.
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Launch the operation right now.
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Only have two or three versions of it up there for everybody.
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I wish the public knew how real this was.
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Terry Brescia, you're on the air.
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What just happened?
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What is going on right now?
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Yes.
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Okay.
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What just happened right now?
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Alex just-
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What the fuck was that?
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Alex just launched the operation.
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That was crazy.
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So now the Obama deception is out.
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It's coming in the next 12 hours.
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Actually, fuck it.
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It's happening now.
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He hit that big button that says deploy the operation.
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Does he have a big button?
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He must.
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Yeah.
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It's probably like Jim Cramer's crazy big button.
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That would be a fun button for Alex to have.
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Yeah.
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The release the documentary button.
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So release the operation-
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Like 90s Conan whenever he had the Walker Texas Ranger button?
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Yeah.
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He said, we're releasing it.
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I've made the decision.
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Put it out on all platforms.
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And then the long pause is Terry Bressey, you're on the air.
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So I should tell you that Terry Bressey is a guy who runs a website called Checkpoint USA.
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And he's all about how these checkpoints around the country, whether they be for
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immigration checkpoints or sobriety checkpoints or whatever, you don't have to talk to those people.
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You can just go and say like, am I being detained?
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And if you just keep saying it, they'll eventually let you go.
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Oh, I remember those videos that people used to put up on YouTube all the time
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where they're like, am I the Fourth Amendment?
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I'm a dick.
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He's one of the biggest YouTube guys.
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Which is not to say I'm super pro Checkpoint or whatever.
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It's like, you're just being a dick.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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He was actually even interviewed on an episode of This American Life
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about his actions and his behaviors.
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All right.
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Coming up next, we have a-
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Terry Bressey.
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We have Terry Bressey.
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He is an avowed public asshole and he has been doing it for a long time.
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Terry, we're going to give you the floor.
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Go ahead and talk for us.
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I don't want to get too into his appearance on Alex's show because,
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like you said, I'm not super into checkpoints either.
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Whatever.
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I think that case by case, there's a reason for them to exist and a reason why some of them might
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be too much.
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Whatever.
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But-
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They're often deployed in a very racist manner.
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Yeah.
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But that's not Terry's concern.
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And also-
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No, of course not.
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It appears that he's a sovereign citizen, but I can't really prove it.
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I can just get some of the code from his words.
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Like he keeps talking about how we're free to travel, which is a really big-
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Oh, that's a huge sovereign citizen.
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It's a big term in the sovereign citizen world.
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And he keeps using like really sovereign adjacent language about stuff.
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He doesn't go so far as to say like admiralty law or any of those like dead to rights.
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Oh, that's what you're about.
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Right.
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But it's pretty clear that he's kind of in that world.
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Um, so he gets done with this Terry Bressy interview and Alex is going through some things.
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He's going through some things.
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Okay.
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Okay.
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It's hard to continue on here.
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On the air right now.
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And uh, just so sick of the New World Order.
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I'm sick of all their crap, but we know who they are.
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We know what they are.
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We know it has to be done.
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Okay.
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I just wish people valued how serious and how real this information is.
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I know a lot of you do, but sometimes I think I don't value it because you know, I live
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it.
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I breathe it.
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I'm, I'm in this fight constantly.
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And for other people, it's like some social thing or it's like fun.
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It's fun to fight and defeat evil, but it's, it's not fun working this hard.
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It's not fun looking at these horrors all day.
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It's not fun knowing you're right and just seeing the evil continue and grow and just
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get worse and all the people that hurts.
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It kind of sounds like how I feel about his present day show.
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Um, ouch.
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I don't know.
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Is he describing a moment where he's like, am I the bad guy here?
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No, I don't think so.
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I don't think he's having that kind of introspection, but much like
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fucking WCW viewer in 1998, he is sick of the new world order.
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Oh, nicely done.
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My year might be off there.
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New world order might still have been cool in 98.
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I can't remember exactly.
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There was a day when they weren't and that is the day we are describing.
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Yeah, exactly.
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I mean, this is just get it together, Alex.
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You are not being threatened behind the scenes.
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So what do you, what is he, what do you think he is describing behind the scenes though?
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Maybe some trolling.
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That's possible.
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You think so?
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I think that's maybe some like distribution issues where his
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tech guy is like, we haven't finished editing it.
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Or his lawyer is saying, we haven't cleared some of this stuff.
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Right.
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We can't put it out.
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For real, you can't use that Highwaymen song.
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I know you want to.
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He hasn't cleared music or hasn't gotten all the signatures for the interviews or there's
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some claim he's making that they haven't figured out.
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Like, is this slander?
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You gotta get those signatures immediately after doing the interview.
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I would assume that's part of it, like, but he's decided that he's going to release it.
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He released it on air.
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It's done.
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But he's kind of, yeah, he is.
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Is he waffling again?
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Well, let's see.
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You know, I got a bunch of trailers coming out for the Obama deception, some promos,
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some sneak peeks and things that were supposed to start coming out in the next two days.
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You know, for the film to have its full effect, it needs to do that.
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But you know, the establishment, the FBI has a lot of dirty tricks and they, under their
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Patriot Act or their sneak and peek things, they can tell you under federal law that his
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dad, like, don't do this yet.
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You're not even supposed to tell people what's going on.
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What?
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That's what this country has turned into is a Soviet dirt pit.
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Which I love, by the way.
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They talk about the blacklist for the communists.
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That's nothing compared to what patriots go through.
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We, there are congressional hearings.
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But not today, Dan.
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Where they show architects and engineers for 9-11 True next to al-Qaeda training videos
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and say the web has to be shut down.
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They're having big Pentagon cybersecurity takeovers of the entire web.
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And the former head of Homeland Security Cybersecurity has resigned saying it's a total takeover.
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They admit Northcom and the Pentagon and everything else is for the American people.
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So, you know, you got this, you got this sort of, we're the most repressed group.
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Fuck the blacklist.
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This is the Patriots.
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The Patriots are the one who get this sneak and peek.
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The FBI is up in my shit.
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Oh, those guys.
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This is such bullshit.
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Oh, with their FBI.
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But you know what this is?
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This is part of...
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You know how traditionally the FBI has definitely been against patriots.
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In that very clip, what you see is the truth and the falsity about his campaign that he's
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putting on this, this sort of advertising campaign about his Obama deception at the
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beginning is exactly why he's not launching it as he just screamed on air.
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It's because there's a bunch of trailers that he needs to put out in order to get public
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interest in order for the release to actually work the way he wants it to.
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The lie is the idea that there's enemies and the FBI with the Patriot Act and sneak and
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peek is coming in and they don't want you to put the information out that I'm about
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to put out.
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Right.
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No, he sounds like a petulant child.
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That's the reason that...
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No, he sounds like a pro.
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No, I hear...
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This is pretty well done.
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No, the reason that I was like, oh, it's his dad is because there's very much this like...
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His dad wasn't the HR director at this point.
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I meant a metaphorical dad.
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Daddy.
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Just like this idea of him being like, I want to drop it now.
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And somebody is in his ear, somebody's in his ear just going like, no, we need to develop
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a advertising campaign in that way you can do that.
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And he's like, but I want to do it now.
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Buckley has given him some like calm down advice.
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Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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But look, I think that that's probably true on like a psychological level, but I don't
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think for a second that Alex planned on releasing it at any point during the show.
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Right.
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I think that is part of the anticipation game that he's playing.
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And it also creates this illusion of immediacy and danger that he's really trying to develop
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about the movie.
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Like on this episode, this might as well be entirely a sort of infomercial for the Obama
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deception.
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Yeah.
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There's a couple of narrative pieces and a couple of interviews that he does and a fucking
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Holocaust denying caller.
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But along the way, most of the meat that's on the bones is him like going on this arc
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of should I release it?
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Should I not fuck it?
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I'm going to do it.
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And then with never walking it back, coming back from break and being like, it's coming
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out later.
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I need to put some ads out in order to make it.
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He's doing this back and forth thing as a way to create the image that it's a hard decision
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for him when it's not.
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He just needs people to think it is because then they'll assume that the globalists are
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trying to threaten him behind the scenes.
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Right.
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Which will bolster the actual release when it comes.
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Right.
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Does that make sense?
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I know that.
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No, no, no.
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I get it.
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It's so transparent, but I also think it's fucking awesome.
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Like, well, as a marketing ploy, I think it's pretty good.
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It's not terrible.
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I think he tricked a lot of people.
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So I think that I think that I've made my point pretty clear that I think this is a
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transparent, very see-through ad pitch, extended ad pitch that has ups and downs, peaks and
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valleys of I'm doing it now.
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I got to hold back.
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I'm going to do it now.
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There's just this...
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He's trying to get the listeners excitement and make them feel like this could happen
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at any time.
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How exciting is this?
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Right, right.
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And when I say that I think it's well done, I think at the moment it's well done.
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Yeah.
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Even two weeks later, this stinks.
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You know, like two weeks later, if you went back and listened to this episode, you'd be
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like, oh, he was clearly fucking around.
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Right, right, right.
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If you were listening live, you'd probably be...
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And you already liked him.
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You'd be like, this is exciting.
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Do we have the date when he actually does drop it?
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I think he dropped it on the day he meant to the entire time.
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I think that never changed.
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It was still Sunday.
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I believe so, yeah.
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God, what an idiot.
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Let me actually confirm that.
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All right.
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While Dan goes about confirming that, I am going to go into an in-depth discussion of
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Final Fantasy VII and how it relates to the current situation that we're in right now.
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Now, if you recall, President Shinra in the first disc of the game is, of course, murdered
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by Sephiroth.
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Whether or not Sephiroth is at the time, however, a ghost, is never really addressed because
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Sephiroth had actually died years before this event in question.
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So how is it that Sephiroth can essentially force-project himself into a place where he
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can kill somebody with a physical katana that is roughly, what is it, like 12 feet long,
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Dan?
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It's a 12-foot long katana.
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You're not answering my question.
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Fine.
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Okay, so we have that, and then we have President Rufus, who takes over.
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Now, why would the son of the current president then become president unless we were living
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in some sort of weird dystopian fucking technocratic future?
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The release date is just listed as 2009 on pretty much any source I can find.
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I have no idea, but I'm so glad I'm here.
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Pretty much any source I can find, I have no idea, but I'm certain it was the exact
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date that he intended to from the jump, probably that Sunday.
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Yeah, most likely.
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But this next clip, just, this is so wild because that transparency that he's clearly
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showing of, like, there's attacks against me, but they're kind of fucking bullshit.
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Yeah.
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It's very, very obvious.
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And then at the end of this clip, he says something that if I were Alex Jones, I would
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talk about for the next two years.
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Okay.
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And fortune favors the bold, ladies and gentlemen.
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Does it?
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But I am sick and tired of the New World Order.
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I told you that when I took on Obama, this was serious.
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I was going up against their biggest, baddest gladiator and all of the throngs of soulless
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minions he's got and those that do have souls but are deceived.
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And the threats my wife gets, the threats I get is nothing compared to the snake itself
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snooping around and trying to shut down what we are doing here.
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Not happening.
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Yeah.
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They know the Obama deception is the truth.
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They know that we understand their agenda.
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We know how to shatter the left, right paradigm.
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We know how to beat these people.
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Our information is going super total Nova right now.
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And I'm going to tell the enemy, you picked the wrong side with the New World Order, and
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we're going to take this country back and the tyrants and the treasonous, lecherous
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people will be brought to justice through courts of law.
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Know that just like Hitler's Germany, this tyranny will fall probably before it ever
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gets launched to the level that Hitler was able to carry out.
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The globalists just do their killing in third world nations with our troops.
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Fair.
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I mean, yeah.
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Sure.
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The Obama deception, ladies and gentlemen, you need to see it.
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You need to have it.
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You need to get it out to everyone.
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And you need to remember the enemy is scared of it.
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Remember the Tony Alamo that Obama has an enemy's list and you can better believe I'm
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on it.
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And most of all, everybody needs to pray for what we do here.
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Pray for this ministry.
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It is a ministry of truth to the people of the world, a light, a lighthouse in these
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stormy times.
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If I were someone who had the mentality of Alex Jones, I would hear the end of that.
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And he's like, he just called himself the ministry of truth.
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That's from 1984.
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He's clearly making an allusion to the propaganda outlet.
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The ministry of truth.
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The ministry of truth from 1984.
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He's revealing the method.
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It's just like Watchmen.
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He totally gets the reference.
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He doesn't get it.
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He doesn't know.
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He understands the reference, Dan.
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He doesn't get to.
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He can't.
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He can't allow himself to do propaganda unless he tells his audience that's what he's doing.
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So when he compares himself to the ministry of truth, that's externalization of the method.
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Look, you can't blame him for that.
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He just scanned it, right?
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That's so fucking stupid because when he complains about like George H.W. Bush saying new world
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order when he's discussing a new confluence of world powers and stuff like that, new arrangements
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in the world, he just said Infowars is a ministry of truth.
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Yeah, come on.
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Sometimes you call yourself a ministry of truth.
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That's very specific language.
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It's very specific.
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It's not.
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If I were a shithead, I would talk about that forever.
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Yeah, but I'm not because I understand that he's just grass-fed straws.
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Look, no, you got to understand that his operation is just this like process.
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It's like an animal farm.
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That's what you would describe his operation as, Dan.
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There's no bad connotations to that.
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In terms of Jason Birmus, two legs bad.
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I will say that.
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So, I like that because, again, in that entire clip, you could very easily see how like this
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is what you're doing is just trying to sell your fucking movie.
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You're doing a set piece.
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You're doing a play, like a radio theater kind of thing.
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Orson Welles would be so proud he would shit himself and then murder you, Alex.
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But then at the end there, the calling yourself a ministry of truth.
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I know that we're clowning on a little bit, but I'm not going to lie.
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He would never let anybody else get away with that.
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If Obama said that-
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Oh, no, yeah, yeah, if Obama was ever like, and we're the ministry of truth, he'd be like,
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1984, Georgia, oh, well, I don't know.
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And PR, they're on a ministry for truth in the world.
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Alex would talk about that for a decade.
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So, this is just to demonstrate how sensible we are in comparison that we can just be like,
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you're fucking stupid, dick.
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Yeah, yeah.
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And then move on.
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Because the answer is he's fucking stupid.
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It's not like there's any, there's no further nefarious game other than his complete inability
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to understand the written word.
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Yeah, it's tough.
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So, at this point, we get an interview with someone who took me a fucking hour to find
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out who he was.
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Because his name is Chez Kane.
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Chez Kane.
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You know how many fucking ways there are to spell that?
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Uh, that's a good fucking name.
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And Chez, if you spell it with a Z, that's just the French word for house, chez, which
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is also the word that is the beginning of most restaurants.
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Right.
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Like chez bon, like whatever, any other word that's often like the house of blank.
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And so, I just got really self-conscious because Maison is also a house.
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But look, the point is.
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And it's also the name of the group of people who are secretly controlling the world, the
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Maisons, the stone Maisons.
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So Chez Kane is on the show and I'll just, I'll just lay this out ahead of time.
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He's on there because he sells an AM transmitter.
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And so Alex.
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Ah, I love the low stakes.
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I love the lower stakes of 2009.
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I believe that you can, I don't know which ones he's selling because the, what I was
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able to find on the way back machine from his website, which is no longer on the internet,
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I couldn't find the actual like sales pages.
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So I don't know which models he was selling or how much they were, but like really good
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AM transmitters are going to run you in the thousands of dollars.
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Okay.
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But you could get one for about $80 used.
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Like there, there is like a version of it that's in the like a hundred-ish range.
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So the AM transmitter, if I understand, like, are we talking about like an actual radio
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transmitter?
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My man, this is pirate radio.
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That's what I was.
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That's what I'm, yeah.
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Okay.
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Just wanted to be sure there.
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Now on his website, which was AM truth or truth on a radio show, he's selling a pirate
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radio show.
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Oh yeah.
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All right.
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I love it.
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Alex back in.
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Alex is this Alex guy.
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I like him.
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Alex is trying to get all of his listeners to create pirate radio stations to play his
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show.
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I love it.
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Which is evidence of most people aren't knocking down your door to syndicate your show.
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If you are a policy wonk, I want you to start your own podcast and just play our podcast.
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No, absolutely not.
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So it's, it's, it's an interesting thing because if you go to this guy's website, uh, it was
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truth am.com, it's no longer on the air, but you can find it on the way back machine.
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One of the things that you find is that like, even on his website, it's like, you got to
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get this transmitter, but you're also hooking need an antenna and you need all these cords.
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It's a fucking elaborate system.
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You still need to set up if you want to broadcast anything other than a feed right now, Alex's
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feed, you could conceivably plug in, or if you had a CD of an Alex Jones show, you could
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easily play it through a plug.
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But if you want it to like actually do your own show, it would require a bunch of other
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equipment.
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Yeah.
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So that would cost you a whole bunch more, but it's so fun that he's having them on because
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it is this, like you get a glimpse into like, all right, all right.
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K rock's not knocking down your door to put your radio show on.
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I'm going to guess a lot of FM stations aren't interested.
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A lot of AM stations are already playing rush.
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They're still playing that alternative rock too.
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Well, then the other people at the time, when was the last time you heard the highway man
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on FM, Dan, but like, if you're fucking Hannity, if you're Glenn Beck, you don't spend a half
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hour of your show talking to a guy who sells AM transmitters in order for people to bootleg
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your show into the airwaves.
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Probably because you have 500 fucking stations playing your show in major markets.
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Yeah.
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So Alex, and you know what, here's the thing.
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I think it's pathetic and it indicates that he's not doing well, but I still respect the
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hell out of it.
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I like the hustle.
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The man's on a hustle.
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I think that if he was like, if he was coming to the audience and he was like, look, we're
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not doing great.
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The globalists don't want me on stations.
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I need you to buy these AM transmitters because that's the way we're going to do this.
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I would respect that more than him presenting it as like a toss aside thing.
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Right.
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You know what I mean?
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Right, right, right.
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Like if he was more honest about wanting his audience to be the radio station for him.
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Yeah.
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I would be into it.
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But as it is, he's kind of presenting it as like a, we're so fucking successful, you know,
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anytime that could all go away.
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So you guys.
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Oh, come on.
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Yeah, it's kind of a bummer.
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That's a bummer.
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So, uh, Chez, by the way, it's Chez King.
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It's C-H-E-S.
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It took me a very long time to figure that out.
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It's C-H-E-S?
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Yes, Chez.
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That's not how you say Chez.
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I think it is.
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All right.
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You could throw a Z on there, but I think Chez is.
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What's the one where it's a couch, but it's also a Chez lounge.
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Are you sure it's not a Chez Cane?
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I don't know.
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I've got nothing more to say about Chez.
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So, um, this next, uh, this clip is the beginning of the Chez Cane interview that he has, which
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again is about selling AM transmitters to his audience so that they can play, uh, Alex's
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show.
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Uh, the way they set up this interview is telling.
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So that's why there's a little banner on Infowars, but this is not a paid interview right now.
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I have them on because I believe in it.
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Do ya?
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Chez Cane, good to have you on with us, sir.
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In the dark days of the Republic, uh, this transmitter is what people need, isn't it?
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It sure is.
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And thanks for having me on, Alex.
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I actually grew up across the other side of the lake from you over there in Dallas.
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Chez, it's not a paid interview.
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The reason that that's interesting to me is because why would you bring that up if a bunch
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of your other interviews aren't paid?
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I'm not sure what this means.
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I have no idea what to take away from it, but the idea that he's having this guy on
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who's selling AM transmitters and like, this isn't a paid interview.
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It does lead me to believe that a lot of his interviews are paid in some, some version
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or some form or another.
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I'm not entirely sure what that is.
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But anyway, this isn't my only complaint with Chez Cane.
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The other one is in this next clip.
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That Red Beckman interview you had a while back, it got me to get his book, The Walls
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in Our Minds, and it tells the difference between politicians and statesmen.
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And I decided, you know, I want to be a statesman and, and that's why I did this.
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So, uh, the inspiration from that in your Waco video, most people probably haven't seen
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that one, but it does show what one man can do and it, and it taught me that we, I was,
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I was involved in the neocon side.
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I was going to school at DeVry when that happened and, uh, and I finally woke up to it and I
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said, if they can do Waco, anything's possible.
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Uh, sure.
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I was actually going to Trump University at the time and all I thought was if they can
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do Waco, they can do anything.
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Reach for the stars.
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If they can do Waco, we can do anything, I guess.
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Um, the other problem that I have there is that Red Beckman is the one who woke him up.
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If you'll recall, Red Beckman was one of those weirdo tax protesters we talked about who
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was also the one that said that the Holocaust wasn't a Holocaust.
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It was a judgment because the Jews worship Satan.
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Look, we've had a Holocaust denier.
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We've had a Holocaust, uh, uh, apologist?
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No, dude, like you understand, like this is what makes this so difficult.
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Not even apologists, like supporter.
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Alex's response to that caller who's recommending Holocaust denier people be promoted on his
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show.
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Being good is jarring to some extent.
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And then you get a little bit later in the show and this Chez Cain is saying, I got
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woken up by your interview with Red Beckman, someone who believes that the Holocaust was
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deserved because Jews are of Satan.
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Right.
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Like that's how dare you deny the Holocaust.
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It was one of our greatest achievements.
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That's fucking hard to wrestle with.
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Yeah.
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Don't know what to do with that.
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I think it's essentially the...
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Because one of Alex's like content people, Red Beckman, because he's, you know, he loves
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that he's anti-tax and what have you.
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Sure.
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He doesn't deal with the fact that, oh no, he's also a Holocaust denier.
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Uh, cool.
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Let's just pretend that's not there.
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And then this guy reads some of his books and gets woken up.
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Do you think that's not in some of those other books?
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Wait, so no, Red Beckman wasn't a denier.
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He was a supporter.
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Oh, that's fair.
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Yeah.
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Do you know, like that's what I'm saying.
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Like it makes more sense for him to be against the guy who's a Holocaust denier and love
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the guy who's a Holocaust supporter.
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Yeah.
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He's a Pez dispenser at the end of the day.
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But even in that, like when that guy was saying, uh, the Holocaust denial stuff, Alex's response
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was very clearly, I don't want to be lumped in with dicks like you.
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I'm against Israel, but I hate people who hate Jews.
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So even his response should be like, Hey man, what about Red Beckman?
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Now that this is coming back up, you, you start to see this difference in how he treats
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different, like who is too toxic.
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Right.
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Red Beckman is somehow like plausibly like, ah, he's really just against the 16th amendment.
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He just like, he's, he's concerned about the legality of taxes.
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Eh, maybe he's quirky, maybe he's quirky, maybe he's quirky about the Jews or something
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like that.
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Alex can like, he can sort of hide behind that.
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Was that why, uh, Ceausescu got that is because he was quirky.
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Quirky as hell.
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Look, look, he's still a sir.
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I mean, he's a bit quirky.
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No, that was an old, that was an old for a number of years.
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He was a sir.
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No, he wasn't.
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Cause he wasn't a citizen.
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He was a KBE.
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He was a KBE.
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Uh, but yeah, but he had some quirk.
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It's very, it's very difficult to wrestle with this like distinction that Alex refuses
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to make.
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And this is, I think part of why in present day he refuses to engage at all.
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Right.
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I think you see the kernels of it here, but it's discreet.
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It's discreet.
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Like this bringing up of Red Beckman never gets into the fact that he is super into the
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Holocaust.
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Which seems like a thing you shouldn't even be allowed to say.
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Right.
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I don't know.
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It's just this 2009 is, is, is wild stuff.
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It's just, it's crazy.
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Yeah.
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So, uh, in this next clip, Alex sells the Obama deception some more shocking.
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We are back live, ladies and gentlemen, in defense of the Republic you have found at
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the tip of the spear in the info war.
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We're here Monday through Friday from 11 AM to 3 PM by the grace of God, we have told
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the truth, the whole truth, and nothing but that truth.
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Except for all the lies.
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The Obama deception.
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I am very, very tempted to go ahead and release it and not wait until Sunday because time
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is short.
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I thought you already released it twice.
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Going on against us, our Legion.
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And that tells me that we are very close to victory.
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I smell victory.
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So close to victory.
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Just release the fucking thing then.
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If that's all it takes for you to get victory, then do it.
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Just do it.
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But he's not going to do it because he knows he already said it earlier.
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We need to have these ads come out in order to get interest bubbling up.
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Yeah.
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That's all he's doing here.
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It is an intensely self contradictory idea to say that releasing this will be the death
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blow.
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Right.
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To the new world order.
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Right.
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And yet at the same time to hold on to it for buzz.
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Right.
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Like that's like that's transparently the game a little bit.
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Yeah, that's like, oh, the buzz is really more what you.
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Oh, yeah.
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That's impossible to reconcile.
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The part about it being dangerous to the new world order.
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It might be a part of the bar secondary to the buzz part or might be a part of the buzz.
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It might be an essential piece of what you know you need to sell this.
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Yeah.
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So now, Jordan, this is my favorite thing in the world.
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Sure.
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We've heard Alex sing a lot on this show.
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Do karaoke one time.
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I don't know how much we've heard him sing.
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We've heard him sing talk.
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Right.
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We haven't we haven't really heard his heard his range.
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Sure.
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He's like, is he a perfect pitch?
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Is he a base?
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Is he a tenor?
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Like, I don't even really know his perfect pitch.
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A little higher than you'd expect.
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Okay.
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Always on point.
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Now, we've heard him sing along with songs, talk, sing, if you prefer.
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Only a couple times have we heard him rap.
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Oh, God.
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No, we've heard him.
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No, there was that end of this episode.
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Hey, guys, we have a website.
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This is me walking out.
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So we've heard him do the move, bitch.
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Get out the way.
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The Ludacris song.
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Oh, shit.
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I remember how great that was.
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Now here is remember when somebody put that together in a nice little remix for those
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kind of now here is Alex spitting what I would call the hottest 16 bars on the street.
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I got a message to the government like every day.
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They're telling me about a summer over there.
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No, no, no.
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Dan, no, I really can't do this.
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God, we've got criminals in control.
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Hot 16 bars.
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Oh, just him just him saying summer instead of summer infuriates me somehow.
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Calm down.
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I got a message to the government.
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I hate you so much.
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I hate you so much for that.
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I hate you so much for that.
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He's so dare you.
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He like that song that he's like he it is the same thing as the highwayman where he's
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like just saying things that are about to be said by the actual musician.
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Yeah.
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And it's kind of like slightly off that that that's close to like some of the lines from
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that somehow it's so much more racist.
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God, it's terrible.
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It's so weird.
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It's terrible.
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So now Alex gets back to content.
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He wants to talk a little bit about more news perhaps.
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And he drops this in.
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I'll say at this point he's talking to Webster Tarpley who has come in as for an interview.
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Yeah, he's a weirdo anti-democrat guy.
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But who cares?
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His interview isn't that great.
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He mostly wants to talk about how like there are Obama-villes popping up.
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Obama-villes?
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Like Hoover-villes.
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Right.
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Except for...
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Tent cities of homeless people.
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But Alex is like, but these aren't like back then.
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These are good families who are being put into tent cities.
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And wait.
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No, then it's exactly like back then.
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Sure.
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But then also Obama's been in office for nigh on a month at this point.
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Yeah.
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Obama-villes.
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Yeah.
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Let's play.
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Yeah, it's his fault.
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Let's go ahead and do that dance.
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You remember how Hoover-villes popped up immediately when Hoover became president?
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He definitely didn't exacerbate a situation that was already demolished.
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Yeah, sure.
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Webster Tarpley doesn't want to talk about that.
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But I also think that Webster actually has some pretty good points.
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So I don't want to clown on him too much.
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Uh huh.
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But he's here and Alex makes a terrible point.
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Wait, so his name is Webster Tarpley?
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Webster Tarpley.
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Are you sure he's not a character in a children's detective novel?
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I'm positive about that.
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Are you sure?
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He has a show on the Genesis Communications Network.
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OK, well, that makes sense.
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Yeah.
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Uh, it's good to see Obama's approval rating dropping between 15 and 20 points.
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His first couple hundred days trying to ram everything through.
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It looks like things are going well.
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We're still in dire situation.
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Wait, couple hundred days?
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We're still in March, right?
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Yeah, March 10th.
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Right?
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Yeah.
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He was easy.
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Maybe a couple hundred days since the election, but not since inauguration.
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Do you remember the date that a guy becomes president?
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January 20th.
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Yeah, somehow I feel like that's less than a couple hundred days.
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Month and two weeks, maybe?
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Month and a week?
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So Alex says that Obama's approval ratings are down 15 to 20 points.
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15 to 20 points.
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But that's in no way true.
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According to Gallup, because they keep track of all this, you can find all of it if you just Google it,
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this is only true if you only factor in Republicans.
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41% of Republicans approved of Obama on inauguration day as opposed to 26% on March 10th, 2009.
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So that's a drop of 15% among Republicans.
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So 41% of Republicans, of those 41%, 15% were hiding the fact that they don't like
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that it's a black president for that day so that they will feel better about themselves
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for not being racist for not voting for Obama.
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I mean, who knows what the reason is.
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But yeah, 15% of Republicans dropped since inauguration day.
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How is his overall approval rating down?
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Well, it's not really all that important because Alex also isn't talking about the
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time frame of this drop.
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He's imagining it being like, he says Obama's numbers are down 15 to 20%.
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20% is impossible.
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It's 15 if you look at it.
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He's just embellishing that part.
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But you wouldn't think that the time frame he's talking about is since inauguration day
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unless he explicitly said that.
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But that is the only metric that actually matches that 15%.
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It comes from the inauguration day to March 10th, or I think it's March 9th or something.
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It's right in there.
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But then you have to look at approval ratings among Democrats went from inauguration day
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was 88% and it was 91% on March 10th among Democrats.
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Sure, fine.
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Among independents, which is a gross lower number of people.
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Yeah.
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It went down 3%.
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Sure.
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So all of it, no matter what, if Democrats stayed the same, Republicans went down 15%
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and independents went down 3%.
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You'd only have a drop of like, in the gross, probably 6% or something like that.
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Yeah, that sounds right.
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So, but look, this really is important to me because I think that this feels a lot like
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how Trump and his rambling press conference the other day.
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Dude, I don't even want to.
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He repeatedly said that he got 52% of the female vote in the 2016 election.
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But that figure is just the percentage of white women that he got that voted for him.
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How did women of a non-white persuasion?
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It was less.
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Yeah, a little bit.
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I don't think that this warped use of statistics is accidental.
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People like Alex and Donald Trump do not think that they're misrepresenting anything.
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They just don't consider that people unlike themselves count.
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So when Trump says that he got 52% of the female vote, he's using the statistic of white
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women because that's all he cares about.
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And when Alex says that Obama's numbers went down 15%, he's pretending it's among everybody,
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but it's among Republicans because he just thinks that the only people that matter are
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people on the right.
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He doesn't even think the rest of the world is relevant to the conversation of statistics.
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Consciously or unconsciously, that is definitely true.
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It's hard to say which, but yeah.
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No, exactly.
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No, no, no, no.
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You make an absolutely perfect point.
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Regardless of whether or not they're thinking about it that way, that's exactly what they're
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thinking.
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Whether it's conscious or not, it's a fucking huge problem.
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So Jordan, in this next clip, one of the big things that we've been trying to look into
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with this investigation is primarily Alex Jones's journey towards Soros being a demon.
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Yes.
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And so far, the only thing that we found is Alex doesn't know who Soros is for a very
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long time.
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Then he's brought up by Bob Chapman.
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And then there's a clip from Davos where he's talking about the ramifications of the price
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of oil going down.
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And Alex believes this for no reason to be evidence that George Soros is admitting that
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he tanked oil in order to attack Russia, Venezuela, the OPEC nations.
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When in actuality that was the Daleks.
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But also that wasn't anything that he said in that clip.
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We've been over that.
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So now Alex brings that back up with Webster Tarpley.
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And not going to get over his name being Webster Tarpley.
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I understand.
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That's a ridiculous name.
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But he brings this back up and it leads me to believe, based on the fact that we've been
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listening to these episodes, the only thing Alex has ever said really about Soros is in
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reference to this clip.
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And again, he brings Soros up, but it's only about this clip.
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Well, expanding on that, George Soros at the Davis Forum three weeks ago, you may have
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seen the video, admits they're lowering oil prices as a weapon against Russia, Venezuela,
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the Middle East, to accelerate the world depression.
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Yes, I'm sure that he would say that.
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He doesn't say that.
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That's not in that clip.
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I don't want to go gerbils on your ass, but this is the big lie.
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This is the strategy of the big lie.
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He's played the clip on the show before and we've heard it.
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We understand what is being said.
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Soros is not in any way saying that we did this.
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We lowered the price of oil.
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He's only saying, here are the effects, some of which are advantageous, about the fact
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that the price of oil has lowered.
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Right.
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Alex constantly repeating, Soros admits that he lowered the price of gas in order to attack
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Russia, Venezuela, and these other countries.
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That is the strategy of the big lie.
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Because eventually, he's not going to play that clip anymore.
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He didn't play the clip on this show.
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He hasn't played it since the last time we listened to it.
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He's going to let that be the interpretation of the clip, and I think he's going to build
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on that later.
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In the same way that he does in 2018 with, he's a Nazi collaborator.
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Yeah.
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That's his big lie in the present.
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This is a small big lie.
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If you repeat it long enough and loud enough, people believe it's true.
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And confidently enough, Webster Tarpley, I believe, has no idea what Alex is talking
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about.
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He says, I believe he would say that.
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Right.
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He's just going along with it based on Alex's confidence.
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Alex's confidence wins the day of letting Webster Tarpley be a...
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All Webster Tarpley knows about is words and protecting yourself against rain.
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That's all he knows.
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And spider leadership.
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Spider leadership?
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Webster.
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Oh, okay.
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All right.
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Yeah.
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How do you feel about that?
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Do you want to give yourself a minus one for that one?
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No, I feel fine.
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You feel fine?
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I feel like it's like a push.
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All right.
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We'll call it a push then.
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Dealer got blacked out.
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Okay.
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That's what it was.
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No one wins.
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No one wins.
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Okay.
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So we got a couple of clips left here.
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Okay.
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Would you believe that in this next clip, Alex is going to try and sell his documentary?
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Oh, what?
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I will tell everybody out there listening that we may launch the Obama deception early
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today or tomorrow.
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It is too vital to wait at prisonplanet.tv.
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He just keeps changing everything.
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The goalposts are fluid.
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I mean, we're over this.
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We've talked about this a fucking hundred times on this episode already, but he keeps
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changing it.
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He's saying immediately we're releasing it.
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Now we got to get the heads out.
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Maybe Friday, maybe Sunday.
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Who knows?
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So when is he going to release it though?
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2009, man.
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Like, does he know?
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Yes, he does.
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He knows the entire time.
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Yeah.
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He knows this entire time.
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I believe that to be the case.
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Yes, man.
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I don't know.
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He's so like, especially during this time period, there's a part of me that is willing
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to be convinced by his absolute commitment to the lie.
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Do you know what I mean?
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Yeah, I understand where you're coming from.
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There's no, especially with this kind of situation is that there's no transparent bullshit because
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it does kind of seem like there's an actual internal struggle going on between him and
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like, there's like good and evil.
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Like, I want to release it now, but at the same time, I want to make the most money I
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can.
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So I'll release it later and I'll sell it like this, but I'm a good person.
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And being a good person means taking down the new world order as soon as I can, you
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know, like that kind of thing.
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That's interesting.
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That's a, that's a sort of angle I hadn't really considered.
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Mostly because it's probably bullshit.
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Oh yeah.
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And he wouldn't make the movie if he had some sort of like good angel on his shoulder.
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Right.
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Oh no.
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Of course.
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Of course.
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Like it's only the possibility of two demons on his shoulders.
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One of them is like, wait.
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And the other one's like, do it now.
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Right.
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The self-sabotaging demon versus the self-interested demon.
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The two voices of like, you have principles.
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I want money.
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Like those two voices are that, that dichotomy is ludicrous to me.
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Yeah.
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That's not possible.
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No, I agree.
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But one of them could be like, you make money more by waiting.
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You make more money by jumping on people.
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That's possible.
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Right.
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Those two voices.
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Right, right, right.
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If he's at odds with those two strategies, I believe that.
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That's possible.
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Right, right, right.
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That's possible.
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So we've got the Goldman Sachs demon on his arm.
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Right.
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And then we've got the Morgan.
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Bitcoin.
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Yeah.
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It's 10 cents now, but one day it'll be a thousand dollars.
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It could be.
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Yeah.
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It's I mean, who knows?
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So you like to make fun of Webster Tarpley's name.
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And I understand why.
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I can't imagine how you, what?
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Why would I want to make fun of that name?
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Webster.
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Funny name.
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Tarpley.
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Weird.
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Tarpley.
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What are you?
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Someone who helps tents stay dry?
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Tarpley.
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No, he's somebody who carries the characteristics of a tarp.
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One who is a very Tarpley.
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Yeah.
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So I think that most of his interview is pretty terrible.
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Like this Obamaville shit is whack as hell.
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But towards the end of this, they're talking about the financial crisis that is upon America.
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And Webster has two things that he says that are anathema to Alex's worldview.
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Alex does not push back on either of them.
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And I kind of agree with Webster Tarpley.
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Okay.
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A lot of people are looking at apocalyptic scenarios, right?
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That it's going to come to some kind of civil strife.
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I don't think we're there yet.
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I think it's time to try politics.
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Well, we see the globalist are hyping that.
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Well, you've got to have your own program to get out of the depression.
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I have one, right?
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Wipe out derivatives, seize the Fed, issue zero credit production, credit for production,
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have emergency federal relief, and set up a new world monetary system.
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Four points, you get out of the depression.
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That's the big prize.
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He said at the end of that, set up a new world monetary system.
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Yeah.
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How can Alex let someone say that on his fucking show?
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Well, I mean, the new world monetary system is gold.
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Well, no, it's not based on even what he's saying.
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He's talking about government regulation.
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Well, yeah.
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I mean, that's the way to get out of a depression.
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Now you bust the Fed and all that.
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Sure.
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But who does that?
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Federal government.
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Hey, the Fed gets busted by the Patriots, Dan.
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So then you have the federal government come in and bring in all this zero interest money
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that it's got to come from somewhere.
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Don't want to talk about that.
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Push towards the people, which is fine.
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I mean, we could talk about that, but Alex would fucking hate that.
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And then the idea that he's saying at the end, a new world financial order or financial
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system.
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Yeah, monetary system.
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Monetary system.
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Webster Tarpley just seems to be saying things that Alex should not agree with.
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But because he respects him and he's already built him up as like a credible source, he
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can't push back on him legit saying new world monetary system on his fucking show.
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That's crazy.
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Right.
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That's crazy.
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And it gets worse.
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Listen to this next clip that Webster has to get put in your ears.
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Well, you don't get out of the depression unless you make these changes.
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There is no automatic exit from the depression.
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There is no business cycle that's going to lift you out of the depression.
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And I'm also afraid there is no free market solution to the depression.
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If you call for the free market under these circumstances, basically making everything
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much worse.
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You know, think of food stamps right there.
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Three million people in Texas who are living thanks to food stamps.
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And if you say free market, take that away.
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They all work for Amazon, by the way.
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That's going to be the end of a lot of them.
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So I think that the question is, how long will it take for people to throw off the chains
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of ideology and all the illusions and all the clap-clap of the past 40 years?
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Wow.
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Holy shit.
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Webster Tarpley, against all odds, don't make it good points, dunks of basketball points.
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Yeah.
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A man named Webster Tarpley should not be allowed to dunk a basketball.
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I don't know.
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Like, I don't know a man who played basketball in the twenties.
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I've, I've heard a number of like, uh, appearances by, uh, Tarpley on Alex's show.
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And most of the time it's just sort of been like, I don't believe your sources.
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I don't care about what you're talking about.
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This is like a less interesting Larry Nichols or something like that.
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And so to have this instance where it's like, the idea that he has someone on who's a expert
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of sorts, who's saying, first of all, new world monetary system, and then advocating
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for social benefit, uh, systems and saying government intervention and saying that there
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is no free market solution to the financial crisis that we find ourselves in.
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I.E. a stimulus package.
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And saying, uh, earlier, um, just that, that you need regulation.
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The idea that like, you gotta get rid of these derivatives.
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You gotta figure out how the market can operate.
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Right.
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He's advocating for bigger government, uh, monetary system globally and, uh, government handouts.
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Here's what's the most amazing social safety net.
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What's most amazing to me, Alex doesn't fight back at all.
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Is that what Webster Tarpley, uh, just God, I can't believe I'm saying that name in a
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serious rolled off your tongue.
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What he is advocating for is something that is far to the left of what the actual stimulus
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package fucking did.
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Yeah, it was far to the left of the fucking bailout.
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What he is saying is literally we need to keep the banks from being allowed to operate
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the way that they are as opposed to giving them a giant fucking bailout so that they
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could continue operating that the way they always have been.
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Yeah, that is far to the left of the liberal president.
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We ostensibly, or I apologize, tyrannical overlord.
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We ostensibly elected in 2008.
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It's an asshole on Alex Jones's show.
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It fucking nailed it.
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So Jordan, we got one more clip left.
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Dan, Jordan, Dan, I'm going to play you this last clip.
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Jordan.
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Yeah, Dan, Dan.
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When was the last time we went to court, Dan?
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God damn it.
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We're back to the beginning.
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Am I in a time paradise?
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I think we might be.
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So we get one more last.
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That's what happens when you get a guy named Webster Tarpley on our show.
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It's, it's almost like we said it three times.
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He is bewitched.
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So they have one, we have one more clip.
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And what do you know?
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It's kind of selling the Obama.
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You're the worst.
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Ladies and gentlemen.
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You're the worst, Dan.
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If I'm able to in the future, I'll tell you the type of dirty tricks that are going on.
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I can't get into that right now on air, but know this, the Obama deception will go out.
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Now will come hell or high water as they say later.
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It could be out today.
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It could be out tomorrow.
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I might be out today until Sunday because I really want to put out some more of the
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trailers and build the excitement because that's what will have a bigger effect.
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The rapture's coming too, Dan.
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But that's, that's, that's it.
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That last 30 seconds is like, it just articulates exactly.
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It's coming hell or high water.
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It's coming eventually.
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Maybe it'll be soon, but also I fucking want to get those trailers out because that's going
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to make the release even through a glass darkly.
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Could come at any moment.
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Man, this episode is like looking through my notes.
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It's literally like chicanery is going on.
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The Obama deception is going to be out.
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The Obama deception is going to be out.
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It is out.
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It is out.
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Now it's not out.
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It was out, but now it's out.
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Yeah.
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Canada is going to control you.
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The queen runs everything.
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Fred Tobin, Holocaust denier or Holocaust supporter?
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Red Beckman.
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Jesus.
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Tyrants, treason, Obama's enemies list.
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Oh, actually I was wondering who is on Obama's enemies list.
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Do you actually not know about that?
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We talked about that at our live show in Chicago.
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No, no, no.
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I know we, I was.
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Bright Bart was on there.
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Right, right, right.
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No, no, no.
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I wasn't talking about Obama's enemies list as Alex sees it.
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I was like Obama probably has an enemies list, right?
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I would assume everybody has an enemies list.
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I don't have an enemies list.
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I don't either, but it's in my head.
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I only have one enemy that is on a list.
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And I don't know if I want to say his name.
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His name is Dan Brennan.
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And I know Dan Brennan.
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I know.
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He has some great impressions.
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No, he does not.
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No, he does not.
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How dare you.
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That's as good a point as I need to end this episode.
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His wife makes him do family guy impressions.
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No, it is not his wife.
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It is him.
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He sells his wife out on stage.
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I know.
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It's brutal.
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So terrible.
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It's brutal.
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Anyway, guys, we have a website.
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Please check it out.
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You can follow us on Twitter.
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Please don't check out Dan Brennan.
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Probably doesn't even have his own name as a website.
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Probably not.
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We're on Twitter.
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You already mentioned that.
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We're on Facebook.
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We are.
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There's a group.
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Go home and tell your mother you're brilliant.
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I don't know how to do it.
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No, no, no.
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Here's the principle, I think.
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Are you going to quote a poet?
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I'm going to quote a poet who used to do open mics here in Chicago.
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I don't know if he's still a guy named Arslan.
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Do you know Arslan?
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Oh, I know Arslan.
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Here's what I say about our podcast.
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He's on my enemies list, Dan.
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No.
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No, of course not.
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Arslan.
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Crazy.
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I agree with that completely.
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But also he had a thing that he always said on stage.
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Yeah.
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And when he was too drunk to communicate and you just be talking to him, you're like,
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if you get it, you get it.
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If you don't get it, forget it.
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And that's what I would say is our principle with our podcast.
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If you get it, you get it.
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If you don't get it, forget it.
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Shout out Arslan.
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Here's what's great about Arslan.
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What?
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He probably didn't kill a guy.
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That's probably true.
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But Alex Jones probably did.
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Andy in Kansas, you're on the air.
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Thanks for holding.
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Hello, Alex.
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I'm a first time caller.
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I'm a huge fan.
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I love your work.
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