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Andy and Kansas, you're on the air, thanks for holding.
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Hello Alex, I'm a first time caller, I'm a huge fan, I love your work.
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I love you.
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Hey everybody, welcome back to Knowledge Fight, I'm Dan.
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I'm Jordan!
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We're a couple dudes who like to sit around, drink novelty beverages, and talk about Alex Jones.
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Indeed we are. Dan, Dan, it's a big day.
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Oh no, oh no.
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It's a big day.
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Oh no.
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We got something for you.
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I'm so scared.
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Oh, there's tension.
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Oh, I can't.
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Oh, there we go.
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Oh no!
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Oh no!
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Oh no!
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That could have been way worse.
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Champagne is a thing.
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That champagne spillage was way better than I expected.
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Cheap champagne.
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Poppin' corks here in the Knowledge Fight studio thanks to the...
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The death of Alex Jones.
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No, no, no.
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He died, right?
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No, no, no.
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He's dead. No, no, no, I'm pretty sure they killed him.
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This is one of those nice...
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Facebook murdered him, right?
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See, the theme of this show is that I know a lot about Alex Jones and you only know what I tell you,
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but this is one of those rare instances where it would be impossible for you to not know.
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Legitimately impossible for me to not know this information.
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All of the internet is doing a little dance on Alex's face.
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It's pretty great.
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About how he has been kicked off of nearly every...
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Just about everything.
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We got...
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He's on Google Plus.
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I've heard he's on Google Plus.
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He may be.
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He's on Gab, I'm sure, still.
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Of course.
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That one's totally fine.
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That's not going anywhere.
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Um, so one of the difficulties...
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Stormfront, I assume.
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I imagine.
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Yeah.
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Uh, Mike Adams' new video streaming service that will take off like gangbusters.
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Um, so one of the difficulties of doing this show is we recorded our Monday episode on Sunday.
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And, you know, it was from a 2009 episode that Alex did.
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It wasn't in the present day or anything like that.
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We put it out.
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I feel good about life.
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And then I wake up Monday morning and just everything all over the place is...
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Alex is banned from all these places.
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Spotify.
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Pinterest kicked him off.
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Pinterest kicked him off.
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Uh, yeah.
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And so, like, I was like, ah shit, we put out a good episode, but everyone's going to probably be searching for Alex Jones.
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Might accidentally find us.
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We have a new episode out today and it has nothing to do with that.
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So in my, in my haze, I was like, I got to try and put out an episode on Tuesday to come out.
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Like, to come out on Tuesday.
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Yeah.
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Because we got to get on top of this thing.
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I was like, nah, who cares?
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We can get to it in a regular schedule.
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No need for an emergency.
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This is...
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We...
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People...
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Everybody's got it.
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Yeah.
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And that, and I'm glad that we waited because he's been kicked off even more things.
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Like, even just before we started recording today while he was kicked off YouPorn earlier today on Tuesday.
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That was nice of them.
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And then, just a little bit ago, he got kicked off MailKimp.
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He got kicked off MailKimp.
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MailKimp.
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MailKimp?
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He may have kicked him off.
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Uh, I don't know, they did, because they put out a statement that read something.
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I think I actually have it in front of me here.
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Because it sounded a little bit like MailKimp trying to get some points.
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Quote, MailKimp generally doesn't comment on individual users or accounts, but we'll make an exception today.
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MailKimp notified Infowars and their accounts have been terminated for violating our terms of service,
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which make it clear that we do not allow people to use our platform to disseminate hateful content.
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Hmm.
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So, but I like that, like, we normally don't talk about this shit, but yeah, we did that.
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Fuck that guy!
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Yeah, there is a touch of that in there.
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Because they can't even really prove that he violated their terms of service, can they?
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I mean, none of these places really have much of a leg to stand on.
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Yeah.
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They tolerate him for as long as they have.
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No, this whole thing is magical bullshit, but fine, I'm happy with it.
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We've been texting back and forth a little bit about our feelings about this stuff,
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and I think we're on the same page that is like, hooray.
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Yeah.
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But a very sarcastic hooray.
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Yeah.
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You know, like, you should have done this a long time ago.
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You're doing it now only, I mean, it's going to substantially hurt him.
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Right.
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Oh no, I think he's done.
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I think he's done.
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I don't think so, I think he has a couple other moves he can make.
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Okay.
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But I didn't text you this part.
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Oh, just to finish the thought.
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Um, the reason that all of this is happening is because one of these businesses,
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whoever flinched first and just decided, fuck it, he's gone.
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Yeah.
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All the rest of them could use that as cover, and they're like, we've wanted to do this, let's just go.
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Sure, sure, sure.
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So they've all, I don't think it's coordinated, I don't think it's a plan or anything like that,
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but I think that one of these companies got off their ass, and the other people are like, okay, now we can move.
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I think it was essentially the cowardice of capitalism at play.
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Perhaps.
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Like, once it was okay, everybody's like, okay, fine, now we get to do it.
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That's what I'm saying.
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Because nobody wanted to be the first one to be like, ma!
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Because they have cover now.
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Right, because they were afraid that their right-wing users, you know,
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the Facebook, massive Facebook community would, what, leave Facebook?
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Fuck you guys.
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Yeah.
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Bunch of cowards.
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It's ridiculous.
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Cowtowing to that bullshit.
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And you know what?
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Alex should hire James Gunback.
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Is that what we were talking about?
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Is that the one, right?
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So, I think that my immediate feeling on Monday was, I need to look into this and see if it's another bullshit thing
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where, you know, X, Y, or Z is, like, only four videos were kicked off, or it's a 20-day thing.
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Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
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And from everything I can tell, it looks pretty severe.
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But then my next response was, and I had to sit with this for a little while,
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I think that Alex's fate is now in his own hands, more than it has ever been.
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Okay.
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Because where he goes, success or failure, is entirely dependent on how he responds to this.
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If he responds with well-reasoned arguments, passion, maybe trying to sue them,
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or something like that, if he really did, he could turn himself into some sort of, like, deceitful -
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Folk hero.
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Right, a deceitful Lenny Bruce of sorts.
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Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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And he has the opportunity to do that now.
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He could transform what he is about, and it would actually give him an opportunity to put Trump on the back burner in many ways.
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That's true.
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But, alternatively, if he keeps doing exactly what he's doing without the social media platform penetration -
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Yeah.
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He's in serious trouble because -
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He's gonna lose.
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Without Facebook, even though he has 11 pages and they only got rid of four of them -
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Aw, come on, guys.
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Without being in the iTunes store -
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David Knight still is.
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Although, and Alex still is, if you already subscribe to him.
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You can still get it if you have an RSS feed that you can plug in.
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It's just not searchable.
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You can't search for Alex Jones in their catalog.
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So that's even sort of a, like, it's gonna hurt him, but it's, you know, he's off YouTube in terms of his 2 million subscriber channel,
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but that doesn't mean he can't still fuck with the rules and put -
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Like, I found this episode on YouTube.
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Yeah.
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So, I mean, there's going to be little way, but it's gonna be severely diminished.
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And now with MailChimp saying that they are not gonna work with him, that's probably how he distributed the Infowars newsletter.
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Yeah.
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So that avenue is cut off to him.
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It's only a matter of time before - I don't know how he runs his website,
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but if he's stupid enough to have hosting not be on his own servers or something like that -
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Ooh, yeah.
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If he has, like, a GoDaddy page or something like that, he could have Infowars.com taken down.
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I think that's super unlikely, but he'll have to find a way to be his own marketing more than he has been in the past.
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And I don't think he's very good at that.
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I think he's very alienating to new people.
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Oh, yeah?
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Yeah.
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I think he's horrible.
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Interesting.
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So my prediction is his fate is in his own hands.
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If he can pull off some sort of amazing triple axel, then maybe he has a chance.
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But otherwise, it'll just be he goes back to about the market penetration and the relative popularity of, like, six years ago.
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Of whatever somebody with 30 radio shows can -
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Sure.
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Yeah, 30 stations.
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That's not nothing.
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Yeah.
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It's not nothing.
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No, I mean, and he does have a fan base that's not going to go away because of this.
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Right.
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So, I don't know, it's sort of -
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That will only become more rabid because of this.
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Adoubtedly.
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Yeah.
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And time will tell if Alex goes more rabid along with him.
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Yeah.
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So my broad statement, I think, and I think you agree, I hope, is that we will see - this is really bad for him, but it's not, like, a knockout blow, I don't think.
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He's going to have to really fight to get out from under this.
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Oh, yeah.
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But - and especially when he's already having to deal with being sued a bunch of other places, and his ex-wife is in court with him about the custody stuff.
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I think he's - I think he's going to be hard-pressed to fight the way he needs to fight in order to save the operation.
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He's fighting on all fronts.
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He actually, right now, reminds me of the Alamo insofar as this is entirely his fault.
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Right.
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He shouldn't have been in this situation to begin with.
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And he's going to be overrun and killed.
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And he's a drunk.
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Well, that's certainly true.
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So, Jordan, we'll get to today's episode, which is going to be August 6th, 2018, but before we do -
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Before we do that!
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Generally, this will be the part of the show where I say thank you to a donor, but instead what I'm going to do is I'm going to say thank you to someone who I believe is already a donor.
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I'm certain of it.
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Ian?
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Yeah.
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Absolutely.
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Ian for sure.
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And we have gotten a piece of mail, perhaps a first on this podcast.
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That's true.
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A piece of mail from policy wonk, Ian.
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And before we open it up, I would like to say that for this very generous gift -
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Uh-oh.
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- I am going to declare Ian a raptor princess.
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I'm a policy wonk.
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Four stars.
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Go home to your mother and tell her you're brilliant.
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Someone, someone sodomite sent me a bucket of poop.
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Daddy Shark!
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Ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba.
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Jar Jar Binks has a Caribbean black accent.
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He's a loser little, little kitty baby.
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I don't want to hate black people.
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I renounce Jesus Christ.
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I know how to read.
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I am out of control.
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I've never really seen a lot of white racism in my life.
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I really haven't.
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I bet you money there are few living black people that have been abused by white people as much as I have been abused by black people.
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Adolf Hitler, Joseph Stalin, both those guys were complete badasses.
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Complete studs.
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Welcome to McDonald's.
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May I help you?
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I'm Benny Sanders.
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Thank you so much, Ian.
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And now, thank you so much, Ian.
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It is time for the unboxing.
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Jordan, this is going to blow your mind.
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Here we go.
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We have this, this priority mail from the USPS.
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It's a foot.
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Oh, yeah.
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It's a hand.
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Oh, yeah.
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With only three fingers.
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That's it.
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That's what we have.
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We have a foot.
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We have a disembodied foot and a disembodied hand.
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Prosthetic feet and hand.
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That's what we've got going on.
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I really imagined them being much heavier than that, because I was holding the package.
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But man, look at that.
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Isn't that something else?
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It is something else.
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It is very much something else.
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So I've decided.
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And now I have decided to make a foot hand.
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I feel like what we should do, because this is a very bizarre thing to exist, is I don't know what we do with the foot.
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But I would say with the hand, we leave it in the middle of the table.
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And if you have a point and the other person needs to shut up, you raise the prosthetic hand.
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This is like an emergency.
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Are you conching me?
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Are you going to conch?
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This is an emergency.
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I have a point.
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You put up the prosthetic hand.
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Also, you took that much better than I expected.
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What am I going to do?
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What am I going to be concerned?
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I would expect you to be confused.
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I'm not confused at all.
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Yeah, just totally normal.
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A listener sends us a prosthetic hand and foot.
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Why does that surprise anybody?
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I don't understand why that's a surprise.
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Certainly relevant to our show.
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See, now here's what I'm going to go with.
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This is actually a monkey's paw.
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Because the pinky is severed.
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So we have three fingers here.
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That, I assume, means we get four wishes.
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And they're going to be tragically fulfilled.
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Yeah, oh yeah.
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There will be an ironic twist to all of these.
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Like, if one of our wishes was we got Alex kicked off of Facebook and everything else,
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then the way that would happen is we also lost our arm and foot.
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Right, or he gets kicked off because he's created an even better Facebook.
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Oh, that would be worse.
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That would be a monkey paw.
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That would be a monkey paw kind of thing.
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So there is actually a little bit of a tragic thing that I need to get into real quick.
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It's come to my attention that one 5-3-0 neon nips might not actually work.
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Because the S doesn't actually work?
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I might have been wrong about that S.
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You might have been wrong about the S.
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So our phone number might be 1-5-3-0 neon nip.
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The S is implied.
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Much like the hand that we have received only has lost its pinky finger,
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so too now has our phone number lost its S.
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Indeed.
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And we only have one nip.
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We have one nip.
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But we have received some calls.
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I'm very excited about that.
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Have you listened to them?
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I have not listened to all of them.
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Because some of them I'd like to be a surprise.
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But I saw this one and I thought, I'm going to check what this one's going on.
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Appreciate the call.
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Hey Dan and Jordan, this is Paul C. Wonk Devon in Chico, California.
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I did the nips in the area code.
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I just typed neon nips into my phone to call you.
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So as a resident of Chico, I am demanding that you come here and do a live show.
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I can guarantee that no less than three people will attend, including me and my wife.
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And also the Sierra Nevada Brewery is here,
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which I believe has produced a featured beverage from a previous episode.
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This will be the last year, my demand.
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Thank you for all your hard work.
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Keep it up.
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And more Project Camelot episodes.
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Thank you so much.
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We don't hear that request too much anywhere.
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I love it.
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Thank you so much.
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It's awesome.
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When that call started, I thought, well, maybe this isn't a fan.
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Maybe this is somebody whose phone number we stole.
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They accidentally got a bunch of calls from Knowledge Buyers.
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Either that or I was like, this is somebody from the civic department.
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They'd be like, hey guys, I know you're fucking around, but you can't have that phone number.
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We do not condone your behavior.
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You have called for white genocide in the past.
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Also, we are now huge fans.
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You don't believe that we are residents of Chico.
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Fair enough.
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Fair.
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So I'd like to announce we've been doing a live show in Chico, California.
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Are we?
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Three people are coming.
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I don't know if I can handle the airfare for that one.
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That's huge.
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That is big.
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We appreciate it.
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If we can get out to any places in the future, we'd love to do it, but logistics are tough.
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Yeah, we want to do, we would, there's nothing we would love more than to go on a big tour.
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Rent a Winnebago.
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Yeah, yeah, just do it, but it is cost prohibitive.
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It's real rough.
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But if you want to support our Winnebago dreams, you can go to our website, knowledgefight.com,
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click support the show.
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Jesus, this is a lot of fun.
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We have champagne, we have prosthetic limbs, and now we have phone calls.
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Yeah, this is fantastic.
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What a life.
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I've never been happier in my entire goddamn life.
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And it's all because Alex got kicked off Facebook.
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That helped.
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Yeah.
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No monkey paw there, my friend.
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So we've given a little bit of our preliminary feelings about Alex getting kicked off of
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these platforms.
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I wonder what he thinks of it though, Dan.
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Exactly, and that is what we're going to discuss today.
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How are we going to find out?
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Well, I have found the August 6th, 2018 episode, which would have been Monday, so when he was
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freaking out about the Facebook, because all that stuff had come out, and YouTube, all
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that had happened right before he got on air.
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Yeah.
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So he has like a couple hours to get used to the idea of all of this.
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And here's an out of context drop of Alex Jones from August 6th.
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I'm not mad about what's happening in Full Horse.
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I'm not a sociopath.
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Yes, you are.
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I'm not a demon.
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All right.
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Well, he's not mad.
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Little bit.
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That's good to hear.
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He's not mad.
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I'm sure that that pronouncement will be borne out through the rest of the show.
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Yeah, we'll see.
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So here's where the show starts when he gets into the big news, which of course is about
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him.
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Here's the news.
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Ten minutes before we went live, the Alex Jones channel that had 2.5 billion views,
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they dialed it back to 1.6 billion views, 2.5 million subscribers, said it was terminated.
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That's breaking here now.
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So Facebook, Apple, Spotify, all banned us sometime last night and gave the fake folks
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at piss feed, Buzzfeed, yellow journalism feed news that right before we went live,
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I said, check the Alex Jones channel.
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I told crew last week, they said, oh, they're just playing games with you.
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They've already shadow banned us, but they're not going to have the nerve to actually outright
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ban us.
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And I said, no, they are because this is the amount of propaganda you see.
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This is the type of propaganda you see before you invade a country.
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Well, they're invading the First Amendment.
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How do you invade the First Amendment?
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How do you invade the First Amendment, Dan?
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Do you go with a ground war?
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I wouldn't.
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Are you sure?
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So you would start with what, like a drone strike campaign?
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Nuke it.
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Nuke it.
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Nuke it.
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Start from nukes?
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Absolutely.
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That seems a bit aggressive.
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You've got to demoralize that First Amendment.
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No, shot across the bow first.
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Warn it, let it know that you're watching.
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Look, the First Amendment isn't human.
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It can't be killed by conventional weapons.
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You have to use radiation if you want to kill the First Amendment.
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Is that how that works?
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I read that somewhere, yeah.
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All right.
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It was in the Third Amendment.
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What about just an EMP?
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EMPs will disable the First Amendment for a temporary basis.
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But it won't kill it.
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No.
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Good God, no.
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All right.
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Foolish.
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Foolish to think that the job is done after an EMP.
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All right.
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Fair enough.
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So, cool.
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Alex, I mean, we've already kind of heard this talk before in his sort of, this is just
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him repeating his narratives now what he was afraid of happening has happened.
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Yeah.
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So the idea that like, this is the propaganda you see before they invade a country.
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I am said country who is innocent and spotless.
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And I am also the avatar of the First Amendment.
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Absolutely.
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And so, I mean, that's not all that exciting.
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And he has to be petty while he's doing it.
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I guarantee, I guarantee that conversation went the other way around where he was telling
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people that, no, don't worry about it.
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They don't have the courage to do it.
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Right, right.
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They're like, dude, we are going to get banned.
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His lawyer is probably telling him.
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Freak out.
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Freak out.
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Yeah.
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Hey, dude, you can't pay me anymore if they kick you off their platforms.
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So one of the interesting things is like that, you know, that's a little petty and a little
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standard for Alex's normal behaviors.
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But he does take a really interesting path through a lot of this episode, which is he
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blames the Chinese.
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That is an interesting path.
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He has sort of two angles on his getting kicked off everything.
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The first and sort of the most aggressive of them is he blames China.
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Right.
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That sounds right.
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You ask why?
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Why would you blame China?
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Xi Jinping.
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Sure.
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Apple and Google are now officially merged with China.
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They have announced anyone criticizing the Communist Chinese will be banned.
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What?
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They have announced that they will comply, Apple specifically, with Chinese government
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rules and say in Reuters that the Chinese government now runs Apple worldwide.
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The code keys to all Apple devices and U.S. government military facilities.
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Everything is compromised.
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Office of Personnel Management.
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Everything transferred.
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Panama Canal.
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All deep water ports.
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98 percent of rare earth minerals.
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U-Porn.
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Over 300,000 anchor baby women a year coming in, having babies from China, having it all
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paid for.
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Most of them wives of members of Chinese intelligence.
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All 50 U.S. public universities are basically run by the Chi comms.
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That's even mainstream news.
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There are only 50?
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We are wide open.
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It's all a bunch of news.
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Bewong Jones, 86th on H6.
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Facebook strips Infowars.
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Totally bans it.
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Crackdown intensifies.
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YouTube just banned us.
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Tech completely says we've been terminated.
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Terminated.
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That's right.
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Skynet knew they'd already been beaten.
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All they could do was send back a Terminator from the past to Venus.
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Good luck.
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We already got you.
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I don't understand that.
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I will give them credit.
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86th on H6.
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That's pretty great.
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I hadn't heard that one yet.
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That one's pretty great.
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What's the 86th?
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August 6th.
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Oh, yeah, yeah.
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That's pretty solid.
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I didn't even put the pieces together.
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Dude, that's pretty solid.
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I liked it.
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Yeah.
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I'm going to give him credit.
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He can turn a phrase.
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I think that's a headline he's reading.
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Okay, never mind.
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I don't think that's him.
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Never mind.
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So, all that other stuff is stuff we've talked about before, like the Panama Canal is a load
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of bullshit.
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That's private companies that have bought up area around the Panama Canal and then sold
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it.
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Part of that same thing goes with the Deepwater ports, all that stuff.
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The one thing that we didn't ever really talk about in those narratives was the Office of
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Personnel Management hack.
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I don't know if you're aware of this, but in 2015, there was a massive hack in the FBI
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Office of Personnel Management.
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It sounds really scary in that it was a massive hack of potentially tons of information about
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people who worked for the government and possibly spies who had applied for jobs.
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Their cover could be blown, that sort of thing.
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But the information taken from the Office of Personnel Management hack has never been
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used.
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According to Bloomberg, quote, stolen data on 21 million individuals, including Social
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Security numbers and 5.6 million fingerprints from a massive 2015 hack against the Office
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of Personnel Management doesn't appear to have been shared or sold by the perpetrators,
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says William Evanina, the head of US Counter Intelligence.
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False flag.
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Quote, whoever took this data, we're pretty confident they haven't shared it.
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Evanina, whose title is Director of National Counter Intelligence and Security Center,
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said in an interview Thursday.
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The conclusion that the Chinese government was behind it is suspected, but no one has
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proven it.
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Quote, cybersecurity experts believe the attack was carried out by China, though Evanina says
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that the USA has not reached that conclusion.
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Yeah.
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False flag.
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A Chinese national was arrested for it, but they have not been able to prove that the
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government was involved in any way.
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He was arrested by us?
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A lot of this is still unfolding.
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A lot of this is still...
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There was a loan fraud case that was going on that a lot of people were speculating was
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connected to the information that was stolen.
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But outside of that, none of it's ever been used for blackmail.
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These numbers of peoples have never been reported as being fraudulently used.
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So I understand the fear that Alex has there, but it's...
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Currently benign.
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It's in the same way that he started that clip talking about how Google and YouTube
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have merged, or Google and Apple have merged with the Chinese government.
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Officially.
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Officially.
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You can't report that.
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That's not true.
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In the same way that like, yeah, the Office of Personnel Management Hack has the potential
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to be something really, really fucked up.
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But in the three years since it's happened, it hasn't materialized into anything really
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negative and there are tons of people investigating it and they have not come to the conclusion
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that you have come to.
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So your information's shoddy.
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You are demonstrating why you get thrown off things because of this sort of behavior.
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Just like Trump with all of his crimes.
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He's like, oh, I never did that.
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And then he's like, hey, but when I did that, that was fine.
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Right.
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And you're like, no, you just admitted you did that.
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It's the OJ school.
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Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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Yeah.
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And to the question of whether or not you can criticize China, you can.
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Yeah.
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Google's not going to throw you off for criticizing China.
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That's like a fairly common thing people do all the time now.
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Yeah.
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It's just bad when you are also Alex Jones because of all the other stuff you do.
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Right, right, right, right.
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Just criticizing China.
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You're going to get a cakewalk on that.
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Did you know that all of China is crisis actors?
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Oh, my God.
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That's a lot of crisis actors.
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Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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One point four billion crisis actors.
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That's so expensive.
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That's a lot.
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I can't even imagine.
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Who can afford that?
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I don't know.
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The globalists.
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The Chinese.
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Yeah.
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Because they have the Panama Canal now.
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Operations, a plan, Panama.
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That is a that's a what's it called?
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How do it?
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Onomatopoeia?
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No.
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Palindrome.
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Palindrome.
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That's right.
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That's right.
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Able was I heir, I saw Elba.
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Anyway, in this next clip, Alex complains about the Chinese more.
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All I can say is we've been shadow banned for a year and a half.
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And quite frankly, it's only made us stronger when it comes to the core base of M4's listeners
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taking action.
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But it has not allowed us to reach a lot of new people.
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That's why you have to understand now that info wars is the most censored program in
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the world because we know the truth.
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And the chai comms won us off the air.
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The EU is finding Google, Facebook, Twitter for, quote, hate speech, whatever they define
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it totally anti-American.
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Secret report.
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They never tell you what it is.
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They put multi-billion dollar fines on these companies from one end and then China saying
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you want to merge with us and have tax exemption from the other end.
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You got to take the patriots off.
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I don't think that China cares that much about the patriots in America in much the same way
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Alex shouldn't care about applying American law to other countries all the goddamn time.
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Well.
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Just because he sees them as Western and our brethren, you know, like the UK.
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He assumes that all white countries have the same laws.
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Well, the constitution is called the white constitution for a reason.
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He thinks that.
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It's the white laws.
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I don't.
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I'm not joking at all.
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No, I genuinely think he does.
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I agree.
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So when he operates, he's like they're trying to take away freedom of speech in in London.
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It's like, you know, they have a very different view on hate speech over there.
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They have very specific rules about that sort of thing.
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Or when he complains about in France, Marine Le Pen getting in trouble for talking about
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Muslims occupying and he's like, what is it against the free speech?
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Well, no, they got occupied and they don't like it when people talk like that.
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It's usually a bad thing.
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It's all the same shit.
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How little do you know?
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How little are you interested in nuance if you just think all countries have the same
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laws?
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If you have grouped them together in your head?
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That makes sense.
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It's nuts.
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It makes perfect sense.
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It's absolutely crazy.
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Why would white people follow any other laws, Dan?
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Sure.
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All comes from Hammurabi, the most famous white man.
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I don't know, man.
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Admiralty.
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Where are you at?
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He might.
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I think he might actually be right in one thing, though.
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He is right a couple of times on the show.
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I'll give you credit for that.
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Does this make him the most censored program in the world?
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No, absolutely not.
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I mean, what other program has been kicked off of all of those?
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There are tons that you've never heard of before.
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Because they were kicked off too soon.
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No, because they just were like maybe somebody yelling the N-word or something like that.
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Is that a show?
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I think that might be a show.
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I think that might be a show.
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Plenty of things have been kicked off iTunes before.
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It's ridiculous.
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You think Facebook hasn't banned people before?
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I know it's banned people, but it's never banned, it's never censored like a show this
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much, right?
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You know David Duke has a radio show?
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Yeah, and he's still allowed on all kinds of places.
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Yeah, that's a good point.
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That's what I'm saying here.
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They will allow David Duke over Alex Jones, which is another reason why this is such cowardly
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bullshit.
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Right, that goes back to what we were talking about at the top of the show.
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It's like fucking nut up.
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If you're going to do it, do it.
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And they're like, oh, we're going to alienate conservative viewers.
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And it's like, well, yeah, because they also hate speech ink.
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Can I actually walk that back a tiny bit?
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What's that?
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I don't know if David Duke still has a radio show.
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Irrelevant to the point, but yeah, I mean, that is difficult to get around.
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But that's one of the things that we were talking about when this was all still kind
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of hypothetical.
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And that was that when you do this, you've set a precedent or you set a standard regarding
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your terms of service that's impossible to live up to.
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You can't...
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It's not impossible to live up to.
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It would take so many people.
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It would take so many employees or the most, like I said, I texted you this, the most dystopian
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surveillance algorithm or whatever for YouTube or for Google in order to purge infractions
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of this.
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It would be almost impossible.
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Yeah.
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I agree with you on that front.
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On the other hand, you could fucking make a dent.
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No, you could.
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You know?
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And that's why...
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Like you could suck it up and you could do something about this shit.
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Totally.
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But they won't because they're cowards.
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Most likely.
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In the same way that they're all fucking cowards.
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They're all fucking cowards, man.
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I'm done with this shit.
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Yeah, totally.
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But I mean, I don't know.
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I don't know how to generalize it more.
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But I think that kicking Alex off is a good thing.
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Too late.
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It's a good start.
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It's too late.
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It's too late to introduce more problems for these companies, what your behavior will now
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be expected to be in the future.
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And it's not like a thing where now the liberals and all are calling for blood and they won't
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stop until every conservative is censored or anything like that.
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But it is a situation where it's like, well, now you've established that this is what you
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will and will not accept and therefore you have to live up to that.
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Well, that's why...
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So my dad recently sent me a Breitbart article because he is slowly falling into madness.
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I feel like Breitbart might be better than some of the things you said he sent you before.
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But that's what I'm saying.
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Like, it is not your belief system.
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Like, you know what?
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If you want to believe in conservative lies, that's fine.
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But don't send me a Breitbart article.
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They're con men.
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In the same way that Alex Jones is a con man who is fucking stoking your fears for all
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of his nefarious ends, nobody at Breitbart believes in anything.
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They're all fucking insane people.
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Like, nobody shares your belief system there.
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If you want to send me an article from somebody like the fucking Spectator or the National
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Review or whatever fucking lie or bullshit you want to, at least those guys believe their
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lies.
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I'm curious, Breitbart has gone downhill since Andrew Breitbart and Ben Shapiro worked there.
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So that tells you a lot.
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But also what I hear there, and I don't know if this is what you're trying to...
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I don't know if this is what you're struggling with, but to me, if you say, my dad sent me
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a Breitbart article, that I hear, my dad doesn't know that this would be crazy for me.
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Not just as an article, it's like he doesn't know that I know that this is bullshit.
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I was trying to articulate like, no, no, no, no, don't do that.
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I've spent the last two years with Dan studying these bullshit liars.
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You can do that.
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Next time, get me on the three-way call, I'll explain it.
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But don't do this with me because it's a whole thing and you got to just, nah.
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Can't do it.
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I agree.
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I agree.
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Old white men, man.
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What are we going to do?
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I don't know, man.
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Wait it out.
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Wait it out.
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This next clip, Alex, I was very shocked when months ago, Alex announced that he was going
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to be interviewed by Megyn Kelly because Alex doesn't like to do interviews with the mainstream
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press anymore after he gets clowned all the time.
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He pretends it's a win when he goes on that BBC show and they call him an idiot and stuff
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like that.
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He considers it a win.
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But he still doesn't want to do it too much because it sort of wears out the charm of
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that.
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So the Megyn Kelly thing was a surprise.
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And I got another surprise here with an interview he announced.
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And then he says some just really dumb shit.
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He's got an interview with Pissed Peep.
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I would have a heart attack if he said that.
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And I had the New York Times here on Friday only because that's why he's been basically
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following me around, my family around in Austin.
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I wanted to do a test.
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I told her I was a recorder.
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She says, what are you going to do when you get banned?
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We're going to air this recording very soon.
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She goes, what are you going to do when you get banned off all these platforms?
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And she knew it was coming because the New York Times isn't a news agency.
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It's a globalist intelligence operation on record.
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I want to get my hands on that tape because I'm going to guess she asked that as a hypothetical.
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I'm guessing she was like, what are you going to do if these people, these media corporations
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sack up and actually do what they should be doing?
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What's your game plan?
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What is your end game, if you will?
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Ah, nice.
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I mean, how are you going to respond to that?
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The operation that you've built is really great and very impressive, but you are beholden
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to a lot of things that are way outside your control.
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And I don't want to say that this is the reason I don't use Facebook or Twitter all that much,
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but I would be in a nightmare situation if I was him.
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You have such a reliance on other people's businesses for your business to run.
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We barely advertise at all.
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If we get kicked off iTunes, we're gone, right?
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There's really no way to find us at that point.
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I think you're fine because I think that most people who listen subscribe.
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I don't think we have many stray listeners.
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I think that most people who listen like this and then random people who do come in end
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up liking it and join up.
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I think that that's probably how it works for us.
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Somehow.
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So I don't know.
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I don't think getting thrown off stuff would matter to us.
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Let's insult the Chinese.
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Oh no, we can't do it.
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This bubbly is going to my head.
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Xi Jinping is going to find us.
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Oh no.
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We don't want any of that.
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The guy who sent an exploding drone to Maduro is going to find us.
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He hates socialists as much as we do or are.
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What are we doing?
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I'm not sure, but the New York Times lady who came and interviewed Alex probably was
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not stalking his family and also probably was just asking a question like that.
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Not like a good interviewer.
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Not like a, I know this is about to happen to you, wink, wink.
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So frankly, she probably thought it would never happen to him because I mean this to,
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to what extent blindsided everybody, even me.
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Yeah.
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Nobody expected any of these corporations to sack up.
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Yeah.
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I think other people who cover Alex Jones in the, uh, you know, like the media matters,
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right wing watch piss feed world.
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Yeah.
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I, you know, I follow some of them on Twitter and I think they were even kind of taken aback
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by the extent that this is gone.
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Like even the, I know it's a little comical, but the idea that you porn put out a statement
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that said, we're kicking him off.
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It's pretty wild.
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So is he, was he like a subscribed member of you porn and he's no longer allowed to
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like view premium content or I don't, I don't know what your, um, engagement of two porn
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sites is.
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Yeah.
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But I will say that I've dabbled around and something that I've noticed is that a lot
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of people will post non pornographic content.
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Yeah, no, they'll post like pirated videos or movies or, uh, pirate videos.
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How old am I?
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Pirated movies.
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Yeah.
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They'll post BHS.
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They'll download it from Kazan and then put it up on you for it.
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Yeah.
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Um, and so I think that that's more what it is.
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It's like we will kick off any videos that people upload of Info Wars content or something
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like that.
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So, but I mean that extent is pretty wild cause that could be like all things, if that
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hadn't happened, I don't think he would ever do this, but it would be a very interesting
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play to be like, all right, we're now streaming on newborn.
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That would have been great.
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We've made a partnership.
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That would have been great.
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I am the Joey Ryan of propaganda.
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I would have been fine with that.
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I think you have no idea who Joey Ryan is.
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Nope.
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He's a pro wrestler who had a partnership with you porn.
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I did not know that.
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Yeah.
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He was great.
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How's he doing in the cam girl community?
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Will they still, uh, allow him to, he might be allowed on my free cams to stream.
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That would be fucking hilarious for now.
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I think all he's got is Periscope cause that's owned by Twitter and Twitter hasn't taken
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any action.
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So Twitter hasn't taken any action.
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Twitter has not kicked him off and wow, I didn't even, I just assumed that Twitter was
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in the jump.
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Now at the time that we're recording this, Twitter has not made any sort of a move and
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Periscope's owned by Twitter.
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So he's streaming on Periscope now.
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Um, and that'll come up a little bit later.
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Gotcha.
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Um, but yeah, uh, Joey Ryan by the way, is the guy who, uh, uh, he had his finishing
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move was people would grab his dick and his dick was so strong that his dick would flip
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them.
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Wait, was that the, was that during the nineties in the, it was a couple of years ago.
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Which one?
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There was a guy who had a, I remember a storyline in the attitude era where a guy had a huge
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dick and they were cut it off.
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Well, that was Val Venis.
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That's Val Venis.
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That's right.
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He was a male porn star.
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Finishing move.
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The porn pretzel.
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Uh, and uh, he, uh, yeah, there was a very, very racist storyline where there's a bunch
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of Asians who are going to cut off his people.
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And there was a, it was, I did not remember it being racist.
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It was, it was real bad.
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Oh boy.
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Yeah.
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Val Venis is not a, his, I don't know if he's a good wrestler.
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I can't speak to that, but I do remember most of his storylines being a bit embarrassing
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in hindsight.
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And that one is profoundly racist.
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Gotcha.
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Um, no, he, uh, Joey Ryan has the, uh, you, you'd wrestle in Japan and, uh, big, strong
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American dick and then he would flip them with it.
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Also kind of racist, pretty racist, but I don't know by who, yeah, I'm not entirely
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sure either.
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I'm going to leave that one alone.
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Let Japan sort that out.
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Yeah.
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That's their business.
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Yeah.
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You guys figure it out.
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So when we were starting the show up, you brought up Colonel Travis and the Alamo.
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Yes.
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Um, and we know that, oh, I imagine that he probably will too.
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Yeah.
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It's kind of like he has a preoccupation with and believes himself to be Colonel Travis,
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but also doesn't know most of Colonel Travis's story.
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Uh, so he brings that up here.
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I mean, he knows history, but only the headlines are not a sardine folks.
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You're not a, you're not a minnow.
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They all get little schools together hoping they're not the one that gets grabbed next
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because they're not singled out.
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Men and humans with courage is about being singled out.
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I knew what the enemy was doing.
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I knew their battle plan.
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I made the conscious decision to take action.
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I made the conscious decision to draw their fire and expose who they were believing in
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you and believing when you see the Alamo assaulted and myself probably destroyed.
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I've been telling you this for years, that, that, that is remember info wars.
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Remember free speech.
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They're smart.
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They're like, we got to first demonize it so he's not a martyr.
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People see right through that CNN that pushes the WMDs, the New York Times that wrote the
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lies on purpose that killed millions and send our troops be blown into bits.
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These are evil, wicked sociopaths coming out.
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So they try to punch your buttons all day.
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But don't forget the financial support.
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That is the, we continue on in the fight, feed your gladiator.
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We will fight hard.
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Give us your love, your support, like sunshine on our faces, on our backs, on our chest to
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make us strong.
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You are the fresh air.
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You are the food.
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You are.
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You are the blood of this operation.
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You are the veins, info wars, store.com, info wars, life.com.
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Go there today and send them a strong message that you stand for the first amendment.
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You stand for us and get air filtration, water filtration.
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Come on, man.
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How did Colonel Travis defeat the Mexicans?
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I'm not sure if that's how that went down, but he did.
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Ed pivots, that's how he won.
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Air filtration.
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So earlier in the show, I told you that I thought that if he just continued to do the
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same thing, he's just dead in the water.
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And he's currently doing the same thing.
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This is going to be a thing where you're wringing out a dry sponge, essentially.
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You have your audience, you have no access to new people to scare and all that stuff.
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So you have the audience that's already radicalized and you've already taken a lot of their money.
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And I don't know if they're going to give you any more, at least not the millions that
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you need to run your operation.
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Now, if he doesn't have dark money coming in, then it's going to be a problem.
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But if he does, then it doesn't matter.
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And why not stay the course if you don't have to worry about money?
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But if he does have the dark money coming in, why would the dark money stick around?
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Well, I actually...
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Like if he doesn't have the penetration...
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I have a theory about that that I think should wait until the end of this episode.
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Blackmail?
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No.
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His giant American penis?
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No.
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He's no Joey Ryan.
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Okay.
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So mostly it has to do with...
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We'll get to it towards the end of this.
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All right.
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All right.
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All right.
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Move on.
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Suffice it to say, Alex Jones fits a very specific role and he can still do that from
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the shadows.
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That's what I'll say and I'll get to more thoughts about that later.
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This next clip is just about how he's still on iTunes if you have the RSS feed.
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We don't need to hear him say that.
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We already know it.
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So we'll move on to this one here, which I think he's projecting.
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When we come back, I'm going to play an intro of why they're so bad and why they want to
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shut us down.
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Because America's coming back.
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Populism is exploding.
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The world's coming back.
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And the sick anti-American, anti-God cult of modern leftism, whose whole universe is
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hunting and controlling patriots and conservatives and families and ripping apart language and
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dumbing people down.
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This sick priest class of the priest of power that want to stomp on the human soul forever.
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They see the sleeping giant awakening and they're panicking and they don't know what
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to do.
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They're scared.
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I think they do.
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They cut the sleeping giant off at the feet.
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Right.
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That's one of them right there.
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Yeah, exactly.
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Yeah.
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I think that's just they're scared.
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I'm not scared.
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They're scared.
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They're so scared.
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Look at them kicking me off all this stuff.
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They're scared.
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Oh, they're terrified.
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They're scared.
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Terrified that their revenue streams are going to disappear.
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Terrified that people are no longer going to buy air filters.
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This isn't the action of a scared organization.
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The not doing it is the action of a scared organization.
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The doing it is the action of people trying to do what they should have done a while ago.
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Again, that's just going to keep coming up.
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It's just people like responding appropriately to someone who's abusive publicly.
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Eight years too late.
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Yeah, absolutely.
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I don't know.
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Eight.
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Maybe.
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Maybe that is right.
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2015, he's already encapsulated all the worst parts of him.
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So what would you say?
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I mean, even in 2009, he probably says some value.
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I still think there's some free speech defense value in Alex from like the 2013, 2014 episodes.
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But now we're going to find out in the 2009 investigation if it should have happened nine
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years ago.
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I don't necessarily think that just being a racist is enough to get you kicked off something.
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You know what I mean?
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Should it be?
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Well, Facebook and YouTube, I mean, it's their decision.
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But again, if you do make that your decision, I mean, I don't want that to have a voice
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anywhere.
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I would rather it didn't.
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But if you make that decision, then you put yourself in a very precarious position where
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now racism gets you kicked off of Twitter, Facebook, YouTube, whatever.
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You're going to have to purge so much content.
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And I'm not saying like you're going to lose all this content.
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I'm saying, again, it's what I keep coming back to.
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It's a matter of logistics as opposed to morality.
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I mean, how would you do it appropriately?
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Right.
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In your definition, wouldn't racism be considered a hate speech?
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Yeah.
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Well, there's really kind of no other way to view it.
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Just by the act of saying that one race is lesser.
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Yeah.
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I think that the standard probably should be active hate speech.
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That makes sense.
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You know, like active racism constitutes hate speech.
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Gotcha.
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Like stuff that is actionable, like someone having a conversation about black people having
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lower IQs or something like that, something stupid.
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Like they've read the bell curve and they want to expound on it or something like that.
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I don't necessarily think that I think that's racist for sure.
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But I don't think that's hate speech.
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That's just stupid speech.
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Exactly.
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And a lot of Alex's racism does fall under that category.
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That's true.
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But then there's also another aspect of his hate speech that we've seen on a number of
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occasions where it's active racism.
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And there is an aspect of it that implies action towards particularly Muslims.
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There is a part of it that's like, it's not your grandpa saying shit on a chair in the
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living room.
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It's someone yelling, we need to save Western civilization from all these browns that are
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around.
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Stuff like that.
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I think that there's a line there, but again, the idea of implementing that line is so weird
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to me.
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I don't know what to do with that.
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And I'm glad I don't have to decide.
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Yeah, that's a good point.
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I'm glad that we can just do a podcast and talk about Alex Jones and not have to wrestle
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with those things and have literally zero qualms about the idea of Alex deserves everything
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that happens.
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Oh yeah, absolutely.
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And it's not a free speech issue.
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Hey, but only 45% of Republicans think that Trump should be allowed to close any and all
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media outlets he doesn't like.
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At the same time, of course, they are staunchly against Alex Jones being kicked off of anything
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because of free speech laws.
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Oh, and you know what the other thing too was?
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I wanted to talk about this story that I read the other day.
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It's about Alex loves his state's rights shit.
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I was reading this article on Democracy Now, it's quote, Donald Trump's EPA announced that
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it will freeze Obama era fuel economy standards at 2020 levels.
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The US was on track to reach an average of 55 miles per gallon by 2025, but now the industry
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will not have a real incentive to do better than 30.
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Interestingly and probably very problematic for Alex Jones in the entire libertarian world,
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it's also being reported that quote, the Donald Trump administration also plans to revoke
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California's authority to set its own tougher automobile emission standards.
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Right.
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So states rights.
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Why?
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Well, the federal government has a right to regulate the states.
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Why?
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And that's because of states rights.
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No, no, but I mean like what?
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How can Alex claim in any way that Trump gives a fuck about states rights?
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Well, it's the state's right to be regulated by the federal government.
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It's it's crazy to me.
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Like it's it's great.
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You read stories like that and I know they happen pretty frequently, but that one was
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just such a in your face hypocrisy.
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Yeah.
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That I just I can't I mean, Alex will never talk about that.
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That's true.
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But it's like so many of them are kind of ignoring that aspect of it.
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Yeah.
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They're like, yeah, we're finally kicking it to California, the state.
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We think climate change is a hoax and we hate California.
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So let's not talk about this story.
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Let's move on to things that sound.
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Man, people are really starting to get that climate change is an issue 30 years too late
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to do anything about it.
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Some people got it early.
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Yeah.
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Oil companies.
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Oh, yeah.
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They did know about it.
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To tell people to say the opposite.
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Isn't it weird how capitalism works?
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Weird.
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We'll get into more of that later, too.
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But in this next clip, Alex made the mistake, I would say, of going and checking out his
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YouTube channel after it had been kicked off.
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And he found something there that he did not appreciate.
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A big middle.
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Where the Alex Jones channel used to be before the globalist Death Star blew it up.
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And on the tombstone, they put Saturday Night Live.
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They put other so-called fake news comedy shows up there and they put BuzzFeed show
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that punch that up because I was asking her in the break for it.
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They're just regular.
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When you go where our YouTube used to be.
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You see that they've said this account has been terminated for violating YouTube's community
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guidelines.
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The communities, a bunch of shadowy leftists from the Democratic Party openly brag.
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Put it back up, please.
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Openly brag that they're going to shut us down.
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They run around for months doing it, lying and false flagging.
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In a true sense, making up stuff I never did.
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Nope.
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No.
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And then on the tombstone, they say, here's channels that are related, which of course
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is a total lie.
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Oh, did they put up our channel?
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No.
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Damn.
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BuzzFeed, The Tonight Show.
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The Late Show with Stephen Colbert, Saturday Night Live.
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All the leftist garbage.
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So they piss on our grave.
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You know why they did that, Alex?
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I would say 40 percent of your videos have any of those places names in the title.
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I would suggest it's probably the algorithm.
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It's like, wow, he posts about BuzzFeed all the fucking time.
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That must be a related channel.
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That's true.
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Oh, my God.
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He has like a back and forth beef going with Steve Colbert.
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They must be in some way related as channels.
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I'm going to guess that's an oversight of just mechanization.
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Yeah, I am going to go with that is a little bit insulting.
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Well, but only because I think I think Alex did it to himself.
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I don't think this is I don't think this is, like you said, a big middle finger because
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he also doesn't say the other channels that are on there.
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Right.
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That are just no name.
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I have no idea what they are.
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But there were like two as he was scrolling through the related channels that I'm like,
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what do you want to you want to bring up with that is ASMR videos.
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Oh, could be.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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Going to sleep.
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There's nothing more antithetical to Alex Jones than an ASMR video.
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Oh, my God.
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I found it.
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I found a YouTube.
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Why am I saying video all the time?
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Who am I?
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I don't know.
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I found a YouTube channel last night that I am I am so conflicted about.
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So I was watching videos.
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Irish people not reacting to this amazing stoic Irish people.
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So I was watching a couple of videos of people eating really hot stuff.
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Right.
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And I read up on this channel that I'm not going to I don't want to say their name because
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I feel like I don't know.
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We'll contact them and see if they want to sponsor the show.
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I don't give a shit.
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I don't think they're doing this anymore.
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They're called the Crude Brothers, and I'd never heard of this.
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Okay.
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It was a dad and his son, and they would eat like hot peppers and all this stuff.
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Now here's the.
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I don't like the name.
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If you're a dad and a son, you can't call yourself the Crude Brothers.
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There's a part of it that I think is incredibly charming because it's clearly a dad and a
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son who like each other and the kids like 13.
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Yeah.
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And we all hope for that, especially you and me.
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Absolutely.
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There's something really endearing about it.
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But at the same time, I'm like, this kid has got to get beat up all the fucking time.
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He makes all these YouTube videos with his dad doing weird stuff.
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How old is he?
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He's 13.
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Oh, that's too young.
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Yeah.
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That's too young.
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And I also think it's child abuse.
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I know I'm drawing a real fine line here, but they did one that I watched that was like
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a roulette wheel with hot peppers on it.
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Ooh, that's no good.
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And so the dad spins and he gets bell pepper.
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He has to eat an entire bell pepper.
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That's no big deal.
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The kid spins.
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13 years old, gets Carolina Reaper, the hottest pepper in the world, kid eats it.
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And then died.
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No, I was very worried for him.
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Took it like a champ.
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Okay.
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Just sitting there like, but I'm like, you are the dad.
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You are the dad here.
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You're sitting here munching on a red bell pepper while the kid's eating a fucking Carolina
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Reaper.
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That's true.
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There should have been somebody who stepped in before that.
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Cause you can't give, you can't give legal consent at 13.
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No.
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Yeah.
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It's very dangerous.
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No, no, that's awful.
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I'm like, their mom is dead.
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Like the mom in this situation.
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Or he's a divorced dad.
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Yeah, one of the two.
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There is no mom here.
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Never allowed this.
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That's such a weekend dad.
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Like 3am wake your kid up and be like, we're eating peppers tonight.
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Right.
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I was watching this.
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I was, I was not enjoying it that much.
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Although I was impressed by this kid.
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This kid is a trooper, but it was like, I was so confused.
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Like how is this allowed?
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Not like I want to stop them necessarily, but like, well, it's protected by the first
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amendment.
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If they have a sibling or the mom is anywhere, like someone should have put a, the brakes
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on this, man.
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I don't know why I brought that up, but at least a disclaimer, maybe they do do a disclaimer
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that if you're under 18, you shouldn't eat this stuff.
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But that doesn't help the fucking kid.
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The kid who's actually, you're under 18, you shouldn't be doing this.
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Hell, he shouldn't be doing this.
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It was really hilarious too.
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Cause then the dad got like jalapeno and then the kid got ghost pepper.
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God damn it.
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The kid had to eat all the really hot stuff.
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It was a scam.
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It was a scam.
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I was actually concerned about that on some level that I'm like, this dad, is it a prank
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video?
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This dad knows how to cheat.
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Yeah.
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He knows how to cheat.
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He's back on board.
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Nothing a dad loves to do more than embarrass his child.
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I'm super worried for that kid too.
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Like I can't even imagine the bullying.
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He's okay.
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Seemed, seemed like he had a good head on his shoulders.
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Seemed delightful.
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He's all right.
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He's got a good father son relationship.
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That'll take you far in life.
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Oh, I've just pulled up an article.
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There was a murder suicide.
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Which direction?
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I'm making that up.
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So Alex knows that he needs some sort of self defense here.
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He needs a plan.
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And what he does, he comes up with a perfect plan.
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China regulates US conservatives.
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You know what?
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They can't stop you because AI doesn't know how to understand memes.
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Nor love.
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And everyone must make memes about Apple and Google being Chinese run.
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And everyone must lift Infowars up as a standard to be defended and saved.
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There's a hashtag that Millie Weaver decided to put out.
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Hashtag free Infowars that's trending in the top of Twitter.
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Fight them.
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You know how well that free Milo hashtag worked when Milo got kicked off.
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Worked great.
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Worked great.
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They did it.
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He's back.
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He's 100%.
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He's not.
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He's still gone.
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So yeah, and also everyone was dunking on Millie Weaver earlier because she made a post
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about how Facebook is a public company and posted a screenshot of the Wikipedia page
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of Facebook saying it's a type of business, public.
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And her post was, dear Libtards who think Facebook is a privately owned business.
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There's a thing called fact checking.
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Facebook is a public business that's publicly traded.
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Using that argument to justify banning Alex Jones doesn't work.
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And if anyone's confused by that, read a book.
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But also the reason it's not about being publicly traded, it's about being in the public or
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private sector.
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Those are very different things.
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One of them involves the government.
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The other doesn't.
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True.
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So.
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Although that raises the question of should she have been correct?
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Are you saying she is the female pronoun or she is a, she should, should Facebook however
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be considered a public utility at this point?
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That's a whole other conversation to have.
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I don't, I don't.
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It is.
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I think that's what she was trying to get to.
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But I don't think so.
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No, I'm pretty sure that she was trying to get to the federal government should regulate
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Facebook, because that holds perfectly with her beliefs.
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Facebook doesn't have a monopoly on social networking because there are other sites like
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Twitter that do very similar things.
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True.
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That allow you to do very similar things.
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Additionally, we've already talked about this.
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Gab exists.
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I know.
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I know.
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There are other weirdo social networking sites that have tried to make it.
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And you know what?
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It's not there for them.
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I was being facetious.
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I understand that, but I'm just saying this because it bears repeating.
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I was kind of being facetious.
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YouTube is not a monopoly either because there are other video trading sites out there in
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the world.
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As far as I know, Alex hasn't been banned from Vimeo.
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He hasn't been, uh, Daily Motion.
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He could get on there.
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Any of these other places.
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Now, oh, you could say, but they don't have as many people there.
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You're not entitled to a ton of people looking at your shit.
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If you are as popular as you think you are, you go over to Daily Motion.
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Those people should follow you.
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You should be able to elevate Daily Motion then.
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At the same time, that's like saying that, uh, AT&T and Comcast are not monopolies in
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their field.
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There is, there is something, there is an argument to be made about once you reach a
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certain market share, you are essentially operating as a, as a monopoly.
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No.
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Oh.
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The reason is because the issue, the issue comes down to essentially the monopolies that
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you're talking about there in terms of utilities have to do.
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I, I, as I understand it, largely with, um, the ability to bilk small towns and torch
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them exorbitant rates because you're the only person who has pipes that go to them or the
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only person who has electronic, uh, poles that go to them.
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Corporations are not a person.
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Right.
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But that sort of thing.
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Well, legally they are.
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You can't have a monopoly in a market because if you do, then you can price gouge for electricity
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and the sky's the limit.
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And if these people don't have electricity, then they're going to be in trouble.
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The government has to step in to regulate that sort of thing or else you're in serious
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trouble.
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In the same way with Xfinity or RCN cable here in Chicago, the, it's the access to the
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internet, not things on the internet itself that are important as a utility.
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Yes.
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The having a website with a lot of people at it, that's not, this is an off air argument.
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It's not, it's not, it is, it is part of his argument that's incredibly stupid.
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If you're a libertarian, it's incredibly stupid.
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I agree.
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If you're a libertarian, he shouldn't even want these laws in terms of like electricity
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monopolies.
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That's true.
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I, I respect that if you're a libertarian, that is a stupid argument and you should never
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be making it.
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However, as somebody who, uh, uh, would like to eventually become dictator of America,
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I have to say that I would be a great one and I would regulate Facebook as a public
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utility.
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Now here's the issue.
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I would too.
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Fair enough.
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No, I do think that there is, there is an aspect of it, but it has nothing to do with
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Alex.
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Right.
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It has nothing to do with that.
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Oh no.
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Agreed.
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It has to do with, um, just the unlimited potential for screwiness that a company like
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that possesses.
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Yes.
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It doesn't have to do with them even being a monopoly necessarily.
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I think the, I think the version of regulation you'd have to bring into it is something else
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that is, you are essentially creating a nuclear bomb.
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You're creating a different version of a nuclear bomb, but it has the same destructive capability
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with all the data mining that you're doing, all of that sort of thing.
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And as Cambridge Analytica approved, absolutely.
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And as a public safety measure, I'm not sure if our society is ready to allow that to grow
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any further.
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That's a good point.
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Now, I don't know what you do with that.
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I'm not in government.
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I don't have to come up with those answers again.
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We should really be ticked.
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We should, okay, here's the thing.
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You will be my policy man.
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Walk.
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Because you're measured and, uh, reasonable, right?
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So much responsibility.
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And I'll be the front man.
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I'll be the, the wackadoo cat who throws out all kinds of stuff.
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Professor Griff.
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No, no, no.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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What are you doing?
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Alex is a professor.
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Yeah.
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I don't know.
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It's, it's a very difficult question and I had hoped not to get into that at all because
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it bleeds so much into Alex's version of his complaints about like they have a monopoly
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of the marketplace, the public square and stuff like that.
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Right.
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And I think those arguments are stupid, but I do think that you should probably, all things
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being equal, not allow these companies to become bigger than they are or even we're
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past the point where they should have reached.
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They should be broken up.
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But the, the, I think the idea that they accumulate more things like Instagram being bought by
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Facebook and Periscope it with Twitter, that sort of thing is, is troubling.
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Unacceptable.
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Yeah.
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But, but that does, that does point to the greater argument that is evergreen, which
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is that these guys are always against any kind of regulation or, or curtailing of, you
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know, until it happens to them.
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Yeah.
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In which case they're like, hold now, you need to be, you need to make sure that these
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people can't do this shit to us.
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Like it always happens that way.
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That's true.
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That's true.
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I will give Alex one small tip of the cap that he is pretty consistently against the
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idea of monopoly capitalism.
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And so I'll give him that, but he's principally not against the idea of monopoly in terms
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of like social power.
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You know what I mean?
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I see what you're saying.
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He's so threatened by the idea of disenfranchised groups being treated as equals that it rings
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false to me when he's like, these companies can't be monopolies.
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Right.
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So apply that logic elsewhere.
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You would think.
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Yeah.
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So Alex, um, I told you that Alex had, uh, his first sort of volley was, this is the
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China comms.
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It's the Chinese.
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Yeah.
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They're to blame.
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It was a good start.
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Um, and then he comes in, in this next clip with a new sort of a version of what's going
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on.
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I think it's weaker.
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The real reason Apple, Facebook, Spotify, and YouTube banned info Wars on the same day
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on eight, six eighties.
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This is what election meddling looks like.
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Just as Congressman Gates and others have pointed out, it is a donation in kind violating
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the federal election laws.
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The Democrats are on record saying we own Facebook, we own Twitter.
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They're executive saying we're going to crush conservatives.
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And then they treat the conservative members of the house and Senate like bumbling hayseeds.
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So the donation, it's a donation in kind.
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It doesn't make sense.
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It doesn't really.
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Also, I don't remember any executives from Facebook ever publicly saying we're going
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to crush conservatives.
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No, no, no.
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In fact, I can only think of them enabling conservative voices far beyond what they should
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be in it.
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No, it's cause they said it privately at Bilderberg meetings and then some weirdo told Alex they
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said it.
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That sounds right.
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Uh, some, uh, Daniel Estelin type, uh, gave them a quote.
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Of course.
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Um, I don't know.
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I think that's soft.
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Um, I talk about it more, but I don't really have any more thoughts on it.
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Uh, I want to get to this next clip.
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Let's do it.
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Because he's mad about that, uh, that, uh, video of cross dressing, uh, cross dressers
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dancing and kids being around.
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We talked about this.
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Right.
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This was, this was a long time ago though.
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Right, right, right.
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But he talked about it again and, uh, he said some really fucked up, gross things.
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Um, and that was one of the videos that got kicked off the first round with YouTube.
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Of course.
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And so he decides to get defensive about it in this clip.
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Smart move.
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And then it goes to a profoundly weird place.
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This is a Mike down clip.
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Local news showed it too.
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They said it was a good thing.
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Little kids coming up with men dancing on stripper poles, dressed like women and little
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kids putting money in their g-strings.
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If I saw little kids doing that at a heterosexual thing, I'd be freaked out by it.
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Alex did a 13 episode series on toddlers and tiaras.
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They called that bullying the transsexual folks.
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So also, I just want to be, I want to say this really quick.
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If you saw the video that Alex is super like up in arms about, and you think it's sexual,
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that's on you.
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You're the one who's making it sexual.
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So we're going to take two year olds and three year olds, we're going to have them pole dance
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or have them give my people pole dancing and we're going to sexualize your kids.
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And you know, we're gonna try to make sure they have a sex operation by 10.
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And if you don't let us do that, we're going to ban you off the internet because you hate
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transsexuals.
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Well, I mean, I'm sure most people that are into that actually don't want to make kids
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have surgeries and stuff.
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So don't go out to events and have kids being sexualized.
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That is standing up for basic humanity.
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I mean, it's like Sodom and Gomorrah.
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Did it exist?
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It's in the Old Testament.
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The people come to the door and they go, let us have sex for those men you just brought
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in.
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And it's angels or I guess, you know, the enterprise and had captain Kirk and spot being
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down and they thought they were good looking.
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The point is, is these guys had been down and if you believe the Old Testament, still
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pretty wild science fiction, huh?
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They're like, we'll have sex with those dudes.
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They look good.
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And they're like, no, you can't.
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They're like, we're going to kill you.
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That's what people were experiencing thousands of years ago in cities that got a little wild.
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And all I'm saying is, is that whether that was real or not, that's what's happening now
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today.
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Boy, he stopped that story at the wrong point.
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Boy, that story has a very important lesson about how the Bible is fucking bullshit in
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it.
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Why don't you teach the children?
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Oh, well, you know, that story is correct so far as what he was saying.
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Yes, people did come.
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People did knock on the door and say, let us rape these angels.
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And the father said to them, no, you cannot rape these angels.
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However, what you can rape is my daughters.
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Hooray!
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Go ahead and fuck, go ahead and rape those underage girls.
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That's not sexualizing children.
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Weird.
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Also, two and three year olds do not have the upper body strength to pole dance in any
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fashion.
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That's a good, that's a good point.
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That's my, that's the only issue I really take with that clip.
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Except for the upper body strength and tone, the, the cherry picking of biblical lessons,
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the boy, did he get that one as wrong as you possibly could?
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Also the weirdly believing it's real or Star Trek.
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And then also.
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That would have been a great episode of Star Trek if they just beamed him down into that
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specific place and Spock and Captain Kirk are the two angels and then they just stand
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there and they're like, this is a weird fucking place.
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We have a policy of non-intervention because of the whole thing, but God damn.
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That would imply that Sodom and Gomorrah would have had to have been a like extra star system
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civilization, right?
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Oh yeah, absolutely.
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It would have to be a level three or whatever.
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Right.
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Oh yeah.
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Because they can't intercede.
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Yeah.
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Dude, I don't know.
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I think the most important thing is that he's very clearly like underneath it all saying
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that cross-dressing and being trans is a sin that's worthy of destruction of an entire
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city.
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I suppose.
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Just because you're there.
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Hey, that God guy is great.
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I mean, I know that's just like an implication of what he's saying and it's like, I didn't
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say I hate them.
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Like, well, that is what you're saying.
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That's deeply what you're saying.
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You know, you can say something logically without saying it explicitly.
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Right.
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You don't need to use the words.
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Do people not understand that?
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I don't think Alex does.
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Like logic is math and it follows along a conclusion that you are making, which implies
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that certain things must be true along the way, regardless of whether or not you say
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from a position.
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You know, that's the basic language.
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It's kind of how it works.
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Yep.
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So at this point, I know we are out of context drop.
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We heard that Alex is not scared.
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He's not scared at all.
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Although I will say so long as you buy air filters.
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This next clip leads me to believe that he's a little bit scared because he's turning this
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into a much bigger deal than it may be in terms of the world.
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I don't think President Trump has been compromised, but he's compromising himself one way or the
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other.
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If they don't make this the central issue, this is the central issue.
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This is the heart of the matter.
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This is the core.
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This is it.
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They're making their move now.
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I'm quite honored I've been chosen as the first they want to take out.
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You always take out the biggest and the strongest up front, but I want to see you rally and
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defeat this news wars dot com.
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Spread those links.
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News wars dot com.
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They can't stop you.
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So Trump is sold out if he doesn't get Alex back on Facebook, which he won't.
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No, not a chance.
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Is this when I don't take no political capital whatsoever?
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Like I don't I don't think in terms of the other shit he's doing now, I don't think I
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think that would be a drop in the bucket for him to just be like, well, I'd say it wouldn't
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work.
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It would be embarrassing for everyone.
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Whole parties involved.
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Oh, yeah.
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Because he would tweet, get Alex Jones back on Facebook and Facebook like, great, we're
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not going to do that.
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Yeah.
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So, yeah, never mind.
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But is this is this the moment where Alex finally realizes that Trump has in no way
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got his back?
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This might lead to zero percent back in his head.
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It's might lead to the on the cross moment.
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Why have you forsaken me?
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OK.
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Moment.
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OK.
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Might lead to that.
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Right.
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But in reality.
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He's not on the cross.
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He just doesn't care.
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Yeah.
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The guy you think cares does not care.
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He's a psychopath.
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I don't know.
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And you're an idiot.
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If you think otherwise, you got fooled by a lot of dudes and con men get get so conned.
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Yep.
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It's kind of part of the business.
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So in that last clip that I feel like he's scared because he's turning this into a Trump.
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You need to make this the biggest issue in the world, which it's absolutely not.
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But in this next clip, he actually talks about something he's scared of.
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And I'll say he's that's me.
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I'm scared of bees.
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My girl.
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No.
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Is he scared of the movie?
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My girl.
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He's scared of the movie.
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He's scared of the movie too.
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Terrible sequel.
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Is that.
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Wait, there was a sequel.
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Don't worry about it.
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He's scared of something else.
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OK.
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But I would sum this next clip up just to say Alex needs to go to therapy.
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Islamophobia.
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That's just some word academics came up with, like homophobia.
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And I'm actually scared of going to an Islamic country.
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I know they're dangerous.
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The State Department says most of them can't go to.
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I mean, are you scared to go to Somalia?
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They say the average Westerner last five minutes for being kidnapped.
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What?
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Yeah, I'm Islamophobic.
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It's true.
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Radical Islamophobic.
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Sure.
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It just says he's transphobic, Islamophobic and bullies children.
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Bullies children.
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All of those things.
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My ex-wife had me in court last Friday with an injunction to try to take my children.
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And of course, the judge denied it because the judge was like looking at the videos going.
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What's the bullying?
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And she went denied.
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And my ex-wife would like hold up headlines, Jones guilty of child endangerment.
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And we're like, that's that's just because BuzzFeed says it.
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Lady, don't mean it's true.
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Like it's like it's like Moses is BuzzFeed up there.
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BuzzFeed says drinking milk is racist.
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It's all about dehumanization.
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It's all about just getting people to not care and be nihilistic.
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It's a weapon system against the country.
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But that's what I'm dealing with is just the less derangement.
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All I hear there is you need to talk to somebody.
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This is bad.
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Like you're rambling about Kelly and your child custody case, but you don't want to
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be you know, you have these like I can't say too much on air, but that was too much even.
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Oh, absolutely.
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And then the clip started out with like, yeah, I'm Islamophobic.
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I'm scared of Muslims.
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I'm I'm I'm radically Islamophobic.
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He's trying to say that he's scared of radical Islam, but he's not actually saying I'm all
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radically afraid of Muslims.
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All of it.
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Right.
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And it's like, dude, you need to you need to go and feel better.
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You like what?
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Five minutes is how long the average American lasts.
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Oh, totally.
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In Somalia without being kidnapped.
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I did a lot of research into Somalia.
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I was going to do a long reading about, yeah, I don't think history of Somalia and why it
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might not be great there.
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The idea that they've been in a civil war for 30 years now has to do with U.S. backing
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kidnapping and it's Islam.
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Islam says kidnap Americans.
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That's absolutely why I remember that in the Koran whenever I read that has nothing to
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do with their median age being 18 years old.
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Come on.
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I expectancies 20 years shorter than it is in America.
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It sounds crazy.
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Mortality rates are 10.
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I can't imagine why poverty is through the roof.
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Definitely doesn't have anything to do with Western nations.
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I'll tell you that.
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30 percent of the population has access to water.
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You know what?
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I'm going to be honest.
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I think Somalia is maybe justified in kidnapping any American that lands on Somalia soil.
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I don't know about justified, but you get it.
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Yeah.
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Like you get it.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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Again, our government is not our people in the same way that Russia's government is not
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the Russian people.
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But you totally get it.
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The government isn't the people kidnapping them though.
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It's the same thing with like in South America they have rashes of kidnapping gangs because
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it's a robust economy.
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It is a good economy.
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Have you ever watched that documentary Monda Bala?
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It's a great documentary where this guy ended up going and hanging out with kidnap gangs
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and talk to them about that whole economy.
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It's incredibly fucked up.
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Like they don't necessarily...
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I don't want to spoil anything.
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Everyone should go watch Monda Bala and then also go watch Morrowind Call, the other best
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documentary I've ever seen.
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So good.
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Yeah.
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It is interesting that...
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By the way, Morrowind Call has nothing to do with kidnapping.
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I'm not...
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It's a completely different documentary, but just very awesome.
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It is interesting how the black market capitalism is perhaps a better indicator of the just
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pure, carnivorous energy of capitalism entirely where it just...
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It has no qualms.
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It is all market-driven.
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Well, it was only a few years ago in the grand scheme of things that part of the free market
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and capitalism...
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That the dinosaurs existed?
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Well, a little after that.
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Okay.
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The free market and capitalism involved selling humans on a massive scale.
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Now, granted, there are still pockets of that and white slavery still exists as well.
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There are still remnants of that, but that used to be a above board business that major
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countries were involved in as an economy.
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So yeah, absolutely.
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The crueler and harsher parts of capitalism still exist in black marketplaces, but it's
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because...
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They're no longer in regular marketplaces.
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Exactly.
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It is kind of interesting how strange it really...
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It is kind of strange for white people to be like, oh, kidnapping is evil and they make
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you work and they don't pay you.
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Well, that's crazy.
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That's just wrong.
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And let me tell you something, we would never do that now, now.
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We had a lot of years of doing it.
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It was great.
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We made a lot of money.
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If you have any slight grasp on history, then you can't be confused by it because the reason
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that people did that back then beyond just not giving a shit about the lives of the people
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that they kidnapped and put into slavery is because of the economic benefits that they
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gained from it.
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So the idea that there are these kidnapping gangs, whether it's in Somalia or in South
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America, the idea of it is that it's an economic system that works with these people that don't
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have any other access to a working economic system.
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I'm not saying it's justified, I'm not saying it's good, but if you don't understand why
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it's happening and you don't look at the root cause of it as opposed to just stopping it
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by killing people, then you're an idiot.
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You're just...
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Yeah.
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No.
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Right on.
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Cool.
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You coob.
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So this next clip was very tough for me because as longtime listeners of the program know,
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I don't talk about this all too often, but the reason we ended up starting this podcast
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is that I watched Infowars election night coverage.
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And I got a glimpse into the dark heart of...
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All of these evil people.
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Right.
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Primarily what I saw, just the brief version of it, is a lot of white people, mostly white
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men and then Millie Weaver, and I think Leanne McAdoo might have been there too.
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White man in training.
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So they're all hanging out drinking champagne and Owen Schroyer smoking a cigar in the studio
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and they're aggressively laughing at videos of very diverse crowds at Hillary rallies.
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You'd see people of all sorts of ethnicities, men, women, people who are very clearly queer
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identifying, people, trans individuals at these rallies, and they were laughing at them
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because they were crying.
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And it really brought into sharp focus the fact that this is not a conspiracy show.
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This isn't a show that's fun.
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It's a cruelty show.
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It's a cruelty show and it's also so much about whiteness.
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And that sort of supposition hypothesis has been borne out in every single trial that
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we've done.
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Every single episode backs that up, at least to some extent.
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And every single tear has been proven justified.
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And so when I was listening to this episode of Alex on the 8th here, when he got 86ed
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on the 8th 6th, it's a good line.
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It's not bad.
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It's not bad.
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I wanted to say it to see how it'd feel coming out of my mouth.
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It felt good, didn't.
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Pretty good.
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Yeah, it was a good line.
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So when I was watching this, I expected him to be freaking out and being like, the globalists
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are out for blood.
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And so far we haven't really heard any of that.
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No, we haven't.
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It's been about China.
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It's all about blaming China and then trying to make these weak-ass arguments about like
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this is a violation of FEC laws or something, campaign contributions.
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He's trying to work some sort of game when he doesn't realize that he's up against it.
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And part of that might be because at this point, MailChimp hadn't ditched him.
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So he still had his probably incredibly huge email list that he could still use to blast
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out shit to.
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And so maybe Panic hadn't set in entirely and he wasn't freaking out the way he probably
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should would normally.
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But what I never expected was him to bring up the election night because it's such a
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turning point for my life.
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You know what I mean?
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Like, this show is my life in many ways.
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Researching it, doing this show, studying Alex Jones has become like the last two years
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of my life is so different than what came before it.
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And even the last year has been different than the first year because I was struggling
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in that first year just outside of the show to figure out what is going on.
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I am taking in too much information.
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I didn't have a way to synthesize it fully yet.
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And so for him to talk about on the day he's being kicked off all of these platforms, the
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very moment that was so transformative for me almost made me cry all over again, listening
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to this.
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It's so scary, like, and so we'll listen to that clip.
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And we'll see what you think.
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Now that you see America coming back to life, you are pissed and you think if you can cut
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my head off, you've done something and won't make me a martyr by demonizing me.
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America sees through you.
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Trump didn't hurt children coming across the border.
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He helped them.
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But didn't say Mexicans were all rapists and criminals.
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You said that about him.
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But I didn't say the things you said I said about the Sandy Hook parents and I sure as
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hell didn't lie about WMDs in Iraq, but actually he didn't lie about that.
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No, but that seems like sort of a cherry on top.
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Yeah.
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OK, fair.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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You lie.
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You two truths and a lie.
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He brings that up all the time to give himself cover for the lies that he lies in the truth,
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I suppose.
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So like and all that, all that's crazy.
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We don't even need to get to the other stuff is way more important.
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You know, that's a that is a point that should be made and then summarily dismissed.
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That we are dancing on his misfortune.
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We're not.
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No, but so many people are.
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Oh, yeah.
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You know, like that is a that is an interesting question to ask about whether or not we are
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engaging in the same kind of behavior that I take.
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So I take no pleasure from this.
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I mean, I know we do a bottle of champagne.
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That's kind of it.
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It was good fun.
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It was good fun.
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But I mean, I it doesn't it doesn't tickle me the fact that Alex has been kicked off
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stuff.
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I mean, and we look at like at the same time.
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The point is his rights aren't being taken away.
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No.
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A Supreme Court justice that's going to allow Trump to pardon himself for the crimes that
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he's committed.
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Most likely is is not going to happen because of him.
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Yeah.
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Because he got kicked off the fucking air.
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So but the but the thing the thing that I want to like in terms of that, I don't find
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any interest in looking at what people are doing on Twitter or Facebook and then sort
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of amplifying that, not saying, like, don't retweet things.
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But like, if I see someone who, like, even if there's someone who has a voice and a lot
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of followers and they're making fun of Alex Jones, I don't think that that means that
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everyone is making fun of Alex Jones.
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Right.
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I think there are individuals on Twitter who are certainly I think that the people primarily
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who cover Alex Jones most regularly are right wing watch and media matters.
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Now, generally, right wing watch is the source of clips that go out to media matters or go
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to places like, you know, majority report like these Web shows often take their clips
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from right wing watch.
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And I don't think that they're necessarily relishing this or anything like that.
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I don't there's no like there's no posts that are like ha ha ha or anything like that.
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But at the same time, I want to be very clear about this.
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We haven't finished the clip that we're listening to right now.
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We haven't gotten to what comes at the end of this episode.
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And I'll read you the headlines that they have for Alex Jones here.
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Spotify cancels the Alex Jones show Apple, Facebook and YouTube dump Info Wars.
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That's the only headline on right wing watch.
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And sure, that's the big news.
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That's the big news.
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Fair enough.
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On media matters, we have MailChimp confirms that it's terminated the accounts of Alex
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Jones and Info Wars.
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Alex Jones begs Donald Trump for help, which is a clip that we heard earlier and does continue
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throughout this episode.
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Periscope still hosting video or Alex Jones pantomime shooting Robert Mueller.
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Again, we already sort of talked about the fact that it's owned by Twitter.
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And if Twitter doesn't act, then Periscope isn't going to act.
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Tucker Carlson defends Info Wars and Alex Jones, who gives a shit.
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Viewing media to defend Alex Jones after Info Wars is banned from several major platforms.
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Like all of their headlines are about Alex, but they're just news.
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Yeah.
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There's nothing that's like, ha ha ha, you dumb prick or anything like that.
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This is dry.
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And I honestly think that they're doing a disservice because you could dryly report
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some other things that I think are more important.
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Like he said, I'm an Islamophobe, I'm scared of Muslims.
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Not enough clicks, Dan.
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Not enough clicks.
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I feel like that would get some clicks.
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You would think.
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I don't know.
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I don't know how the business works.
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Clearly we get the clicks that we get.
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Who knows?
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Fair enough.
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But let's finish this clip because I set it up with that long story about election night
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and I don't want to let people forget what we're talking about.
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I'm going to play the Trump promo that they really hate when we come back.
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But this is what they hate.
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You saw them on election night.
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You saw them freaked out.
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You saw them scared.
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You saw the disdain of the type of physically ugly people, too, that are liberals.
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I mean, that they just have a disdain for successful people, good looking people, loving
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people.
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They're just a legion of scum.
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And they know it.
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But if they could just defeat America, if they could just defeat culture and society,
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if they could just beat the superiority of Western culture and ideas, then they could
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be somebody.
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But we've got to be out of the way.
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That's the nature of authoritarianism.
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It always picks groups that it thinks are superior to take out so they can be in charge.
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But it always starts the persecution with a little subgroup first.
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Now, if you want to send them a very strong message, plus everybody needs it, go to mfowarsstore.com
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and get an mfowars T-shirt.
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Good T-shirt.
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Motherfucker.
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Physically ugly.
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Different from me is unattractive.
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They always want to take down that are superior, that they think are superior.
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Right.
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Right.
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As opposed to that they think are fucking evil.
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They should.
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And the implication there is they should know we're superior.
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Exactly.
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Everything in there.
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The implication is that they do know we're superior.
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Everything in there was such deeply coded language, but very, very fucking specific.
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The idea of what he's talking about.
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You saw them on election night.
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I watched your goddamn show on election night.
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I know exactly what you were watching on election night because you played it in the studio.
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And what it was was a bunch of minorities crying.
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Bunch of minorities and white people mixed in too because it was a diverse group.
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And if you, sir, Mr. Alex Jones, sir, are saying 10 amount of nothing, you don't know
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anything else about these people, some of them are quite attractive.
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If you are saying these physically unattractive people, what you are responding to is that
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there's not enough white people there because it was a very diverse group and those white
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people should know better than to hang out with all these weirdos.
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Yep.
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That is all that's going on there and it's so fucking crazy.
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It's so unacceptable that he's bringing this up.
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And then it's further very acceptable that it turns into a T-shirt ad.
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Yeah.
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That's exactly what you'd expect from this piece of shit.
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Acceptable?
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No.
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Predictable?
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Yes.
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I accept it because that's all this guy's got.
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That's true.
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He's getting thrown off of every fucking platform he's on and he can't stop doing the ad pivots.
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He can't stop doing the ad pivots.
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You're not on air anymore.
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You're not on YouTube.
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You're not streaming on anything but Periscope, you dumb prick.
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What are you doing?
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Who are you doing ad pivots to?
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Your radio audience in bum fuck Arkansas?
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Enjoy.
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Have that.
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I don't give a shit.
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I'm mad now.
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I'm actually mad.
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I know.
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I love it.
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I've rarely been mad on this show.
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I know.
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I am furious at this guy.
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I've rarely never interrupted you.
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That's true.
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I didn't have to go for the prosthetic hand.
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Nope.
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I'm so - it bums me out so much because it's such an invalidation of what you would
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hope is an illustrative moment.
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You would hope that one day you could show Alex the video of election night and be like,
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hey, look at your crew and then look what you're doing.
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You would hope maybe one day he'd be able to come to terms with what was really going
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on in his head and he can't.
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He just uses the fear of the other in order to sell a shirt.
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That's all it's about.
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That's all this is.
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It's bigotry and shirts.
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Yeah.
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I'm glad we have neither.
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Well, we had shirts for a while.
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We had two of them.
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Literally.
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We had two.
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Not metaphorically two.
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No, no, no, no.
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And not like we had two different versions.
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We had two shirts.
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So I don't know, man.
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Maybe I went too far there getting a little bit -
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God damn it, Dan.
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Indulgent.
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Come on.
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You have never gone too far.
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Bums me out.
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Because that was perfect.
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Yeah.
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I mean, I think that if he had just ended the clip in any other way, I probably would
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have been screaming at you right now, like in a much more angry way.
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But I think he -
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The fact that he ended it in an ad pivot just deflates everything.
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It diffused me a little bit.
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Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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Because then you're like, fuck, this is the same bullshit you're peddling.
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I can't even engage with your racist nonsense in a genuine way because you invalidated it
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immediately.
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Yeah, it's kind of self-degrading when you actually look at it.
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So it's kind of like, eh.
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He goes from like abject infuriating behavior to pathetic behavior so fast that you're
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like, I hate you.
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And now you're pathetic.
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You're below my - what's the point of even hating you?
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My feeling on it is like I want to get worked up and yell about it, but at the same time,
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because of the ad pivot at the end, any right-thinking person who heard that would be like, look
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at this dick.
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Exactly.
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And I know that any not right-thinking person isn't going to be convinced by me screaming
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about it.
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Right.
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But I had to let a little bit out.
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In this next clip -
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I appreciate it and so I think does everybody else.
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In this next clip, I'm going to skip it because it's just Alex talking about how
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like, hey, Owen Schroyer has a YouTube channel that we were streaming on.
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We didn't know we couldn't do it over there.
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That sort of thing.
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And all it illustrates is that Alex is on some level aware that he can make it really
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difficult for YouTube to enforce the rules that they've set down.
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And that's part of why I think it's a disaster to do this sort of thing just from a technical
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standpoint because he knows he's going to cheat and now you have to look for other people
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cheating on his behalf and that sort of thing.
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So if you actually don't want Infowars content on YouTube, then you have almost a Herculean
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effort in front of you.
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Yeah.
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You're going to have to scramble for everybody who hosted on their own channel.
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Any of his employees.
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Exactly.
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Yeah.
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But if you have just the, we're going to take down these channels that have a lot of
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followers and wait for these other ones to get built up, then you're not doing much
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except sort of pushing them back the timeline a little bit.
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The minor setback.
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And it's just a game of whack-a-mole basically.
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The fact that David Knight's shit is still allowed to be up is just like, no, just summarily
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ban Infowars.
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Don't like, oh, David Knight is too boring for us to care.
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I think it is hilarious.
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It's very funny.
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But I also think that David Knight is a much more restrained broadcaster.
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Yeah, because he has nothing to restrain.
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He sucks.
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And he's like, he's still as, you know, into all the white shit that Alex is that we talk
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about.
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But he would never say the stuff that Alex says.
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I would like you to make a meme about how Alex should be.
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That's corsey.
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Oh, whatever.
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That's a corsey impression.
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Whatever.
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It's the same fucking shit.
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No, David Knight would not say that people were crisis actors or things like that.
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I don't think he would do that.
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So maybe he gets a pass because Owen Schroyer is a young buck and he is hungry for it.
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So he would probably go along with it.
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Whereas David Knight's a little bit more of a, hey, I'm old, I'm chill.
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Also, I hadn't seen David Knight in a while.
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I watched a little bit of him accidentally because hour and a half through this show
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or so, maybe two hours in, Alex has to leave.
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So David Knight fills in for the rest of the show.
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He's lost some weight.
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Oh, that's nice.
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He looks good.
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Great.
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I hate to say it, but David Knight looks good.
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Good for you, David Knight.
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You didn't look terrible as like a sort of pudgy older man, but he's lost probably a
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good 20, 25 pounds.
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He fits a suit nice.
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I hate to say it, but David Knight, congrats, man.
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I don't hate it.
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Even if I hate what you do, I'm happy you're healthy.
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Can you imagine if Alex could fit a suit?
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That'd be great.
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Ooh, man, Alex wearing a suit to work every day.
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That would be tough to handle.
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Yeah.
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I mean, he wears a blazer usually, but the top button on his button up shirt is undone.
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Gotta get a little bit of that super male vitality chest hair out there.
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Yeah.
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So back in the day, Alex Jones did look good back when he was an athlete.
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Right.
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And in his next clip, he hearkens back to those sorts of times in order to create a
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bizarre fantasy about what he thinks is going on.
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I don't care at the end of the day, except for my crew members and people about Infowars.
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I've always said I'm giving us one hundred and ten percent until they wipe me out or
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we win.
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But if I get wiped out of the game, imagine you're in the end of the fourth quarter and
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you get and you throw that touchdown pass, they take your knee out.
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You're already so exhausted.
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They put the new quarterback in.
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You sit back and watch everybody win in sudden death overtime.
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All right.
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I've come to disrupt these people.
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I've come to stop them.
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That's what I'm here for.
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I'm not here to play patty cake.
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I'm not here to play games.
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But you read the danger of the headlines.
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Jones said Islamophobic things, bully children and anti transphobic or trans whatever did
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all of that.
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And they don't even show you what I said.
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That's total.
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We totally would.
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Berkeley speak, globalist speak, Soviet speak, EU speak.
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Everybody hears hate speech.
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We can't tell you what it was.
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It was so bad.
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Don't listen to it, though.
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I believe they've jumped the shark if you take action until everybody you know about
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info wars dot com forward slash show people go check their spam filters.
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Most of those will block info wars emails to you.
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Don't worry about that.
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Tell people about work.
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Say, hey, regardless what you think about Alex Jones, why don't you go here for it yourself?
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And if you do here and then he gets lost in thoughts about transitions into a completely
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different subject.
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Yeah.
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But look, dude, anyone who's telling anybody about info wars ain't at a library.
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So that you can just stop the idea of, like, tell people at a library is not going to work.
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Also, to go from stopping traffic to tell people in a library, that is indicative of
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a huge fault.
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Yeah.
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But the one thing I wanted to say is that, like earlier in the show, I told you why the
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idea I think that dark money still would be interested in what Alex does.
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Yeah.
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And he sort of hints at it there a little bit.
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And then he says, what I'm here to do is disrupt them, that sort of thing.
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And I think that if we really take a step back and look at the bigger picture of what
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- while they're all con men, certainly, but a lot of the people that we talk about,
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I think Carrie Cassidy is less on this tip.
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But certainly Jim Bakker and Alex Jones and -
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Jim Bakker may be even more of a con man than Alex.
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Oh, he's a much bigger one.
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Absolutely.
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Yeah.
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And a much better resume.
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He's not as big as that one horrible monstrous woman that he had on there.
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What was her name?
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Paula Kane.
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Paula Kane.
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Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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She might be the - she's the premier con man so far that we've had on our show, I
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think.
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Well, she comes into this conversation perfectly because I think that even beyond the con,
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which is what we talk about, which is creating fear in order to sell things, more or less.
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If you want to break it down, that's the con that all these people are running.
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Yeah.
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But beyond that, their primary function for someone else, like why someone else would
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invest in them, which I don't think anyone has invested in Carrie Cassidy and that's
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why I keep her to the side a little bit.
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No, yeah, yeah.
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But the reason someone would give them secret money is because what they do, the primary
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function in terms of society is to normalize ideas that we have already decided are repulsive.
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That's true.
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That would create a scenario and a situation wherein Alex can get on air and say, yeah,
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fuck yeah, I'm afraid of Muslims and then what?
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He has brought that into the public sphere as an acceptable thing to say.
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So you think it's all an Overton window kind of investment?
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To some extent.
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I think that there is - I don't - I'm not going to sit here and tell you that I
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think that that is the entire game that's been played, that was the goal all along.
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Right.
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But I do think that if you look at what these particular people have done and you look at
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their careers over time, it seems like they're deeply invested in that sort of thing.
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Like the idea that Mike Cernovich went from gamer gate guy, pickup artist community guy,
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jumped over to pizza gate and then ended up as a Alex Jones disciple kind of character.
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There is a through line through all of that in terms of like misogyny and you could say
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that that's deeply entrenched in him, but the things that were going on in those different
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segments of his life, the only real thing that connects all of them is making really
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fucked up things not as fucked up.
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Fucked up accusations in terms of pizza gate saying that your enemies are pedophile demons,
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that sort of thing.
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That's true.
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In the gamer gate stuff, making threats and doxing and that sort of thing, just a part
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of the normal cautionary things you have to deal with online.
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And then with Alex, I mean, he's just playing the Alex game.
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And you can absolutely see the escalation in that just from gamer gate was about a woman
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doing her job all the way to James Gunn getting fired.
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That's definitely become part of the Overton window for sure.
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It's not a perfect path or anything like to trace or anything like that.
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But I think that what we deal with the most, I think why social media is so awful is because
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a lot of those things are so normal now, whereas ideas that are being said in August of 2018,
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five years ago would have been like, what the fuck out of here with that?
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And then you're absolutely right.
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When you take into account that 45 percent of Republicans want Trump to be able to just
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close down media outlets, you have to take into account guys like Alex Jones, who are
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insisting that you can't trust anybody in the mainstream media, you can't trust any
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of these people.
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They've lent their years of back story towards the reinforcing of Trump's right, shutting
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down media, abusing immigrants, sort of policies, all of which is fine.
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And you can't even and at the same time, while it's being fine, you are still offended when
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somebody calls you a racist, even though your guy is putting together white nationalist
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policies.
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Yeah.
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Policies.
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And to me is the best explanation for why dark money would stick around, because Alex,
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like I've said many times, this world doesn't have someone else like Alex.
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Like I know that it pains us so much to say how talented he is, but he is a talented guy
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when his head's in the right place.
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Yeah.
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You know, when he's not having to deal with a hundred different distractions, he's really
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good at being a propagandist.
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Yeah.
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He's charismatic and kind of funny from now and now and absolutely.
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He's the meme machine.
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Sure.
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Sure.
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Sure.
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But there isn't anyone else like him.
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Like Posobick can't handle that.
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Absolutely not.
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Cernovich can't even fucking handle that.
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Good God, no.
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Baked Alaska can't handle that.
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I still don't think that's a person.
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Sargon of Akkad can't handle that.
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He actually can't.
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He can't.
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Even Rogan can't handle that because he's not willing to.
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Right.
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Like he is he is a big part of normalizing a lot of these these these things, but yeah,
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but he also is somewhat.
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He's not he doesn't tow the line.
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Not their line.
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Exactly.
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He by it's it's not like he is willing to just like drop it all and go tow, you know,
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like line for line.
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This is what I'm going to say, because this is part of what we're supposed to do.
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Right.
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He's going to have those people who do that on a show and he's not going to do too much
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pushback.
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But at the same time, what he espouses now now is not going to be that line.
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Now, at the same time, as unfair, not unfair, we've been very fair, but as critical of Joe
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as we've been in the past and deservedly, he still deserves a lot of criticism for having
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these people like he had Peter Schiff on recently again, which is crazy.
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Yeah.
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And he had recently Dave Rubin and Candace Owens on, and both times he asked them like
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real pointed questions that they couldn't answer.
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And it led to really embarrassing video.
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Yeah.
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Like to the point where Candace Owens and Dave Rubin were both on his show, not able
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to answer foundational questions about what they believe.
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Right.
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So they don't believe anything.
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Right.
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Yeah.
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Right.
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They just want to make fucked up things OK to say.
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That's a good point.
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So Joe Rogan is kind of an unwitting accomplice in some of this, I think, because if he was
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a witting accomplice, he could be doing so much more.
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Right.
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Right.
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Right.
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And he would be crushing it.
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Oh yeah.
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Oh yeah.
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Who is Candace Owens?
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Candace Owens.
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She works for Turning Point USA.
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She's the she works with Charlie Kirk, who's another guy you probably don't know who he
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is.
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I heard that Kanye was a fan of hers.
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That's right.
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OK.
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That's how I know Candace Owens name.
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That's how she rose to prominence a bit.
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But before that, she was a celebrity in the alt-right community under the name Red Pill
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Black.
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Sure.
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And what her her beginning story was about.
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She was a liberal.
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And is she a black woman?
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Yes.
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OK.
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OK.
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And she was posting some video.
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So she's a huge get for the conservative community to some extent.
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She's not.
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Sorry to interrupt you again.
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She's she's pretty good on her feet generally.
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And she's OK, she has OK, like.
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Camera presence, you know, some chops for sure, for sure.
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But she's not if questions get too hard, she's not really all that great in the same way
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that I would say that about Dave Rubin, I would say that about even Jordan fucking Peterson
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who's Dave Rubin.
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Dave Rubins.
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He used to be a liberal comedian.
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He worked for the Turks for a little while, probably got fired.
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I have no idea what the driver is, but now he's become a conservative comedian.
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He's a mess.
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I don't understand those two words next to each other.
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He has a show called The Rubin Report.
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He is a disaster.
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But he doesn't even rank in terms of like stuff we would want to cover, right?
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Because he also in the same way that I don't want to talk about like Bill Maher, even though
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I hate him.
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Yeah.
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I still give Dave Rubin a little bit of like.
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That could have been a failed joke, and I don't want to sit here and relitigate your
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jokes.
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Yeah.
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You know, that doesn't make sense to me.
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So Candace Owens was making these videos.
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And so she had also, no, before the videos, excuse me, I got my timeline a little off.
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She was running a company, or she was trying to start a company, I believe it was on Kickstarter
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or something to that effect, of a company that would lead into doxing to some extent,
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where you would be able to find out the people who are harassing you and be able to deal
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with it.
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I don't remember the name of the company or anything like that.
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But she was doing this thing, and it was around the time of Gamergate.
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And so Zoe Quinn sent her a message that was to the effect of like, don't do this.
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This is the worst idea that you could possibly do.
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This will only get people to attack you.
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You don't understand that what you're doing, while it sounds admirable, is the sort of
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thing that will completely blow up on these online communities, and they will go after
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you super hard.
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So if I'm going to make a prediction with no knowledge of who she is or what happened,
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she went ahead with it, and then it blew up in her face exactly the way Zoe Nixon said
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it would.
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Yep.
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Zoe Quinn.
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All right.
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Zoe Quinn.
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Sorry.
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I combined her with Cynthia Nixon for some reason.
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And then, to make matters even worse, Candace Owens believed, and with no evidence that
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she's ever given publicly, she believes that Zoe Quinn and the, Anita Sartesian-
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That's the reason that it happened, despite Zoe Quinn-
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The victims of Gamergate were the ones who sicced all of these people on her.
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Heartful, like genuinely and heartfully saying, we want to protect you, man, she is stupid.
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I've read a bunch-
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That is dumb!
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I've read a bunch about both sides of this exchange.
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I've read Candace's version, and I've read the other side.
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And there's really no way to look at it reasonably and not think that Candace is a flaming
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opportunist.
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Yeah.
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Like, it is, her side of it makes absolutely no sense based on what you know of the internet.
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Okay, so she essentially shook it off as being like, you know what, this is the world that
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I'm going to make money from, so I have to accept that people are going to be extremely
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assholish to me.
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No, I think what happened probably was that in that same period of time, she probably
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got approached by like, maybe she started getting attacked by these troll folk who don't
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like the idea of a business that would get in the way of their trolling and shit.
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And I think that even doxxing people who are monsters online, I still don't think that's
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the best way to deal with them.
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And I think that that still could lead to death.
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Yeah, the...
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I still think that that is such a dangerous game to play.
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Right, right, right, right.
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That you're opening up a can of worms that you can't possibly know what's going to happen.
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I've read a bunch of arguments on the defense of shame being a powerful tool and that kind
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of stuff, and if you are in a community where you're dealing with people all the time, shame
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I think is a valuable tool.
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If you are in an anonymous community, shame winds up leading to fucking horrific shit.
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Generally, when you have that anonymity just without your consent stripped away, there's
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an equal and opposite reaction.
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But I think that probably someone approached her and was like, hey, you know what, we could
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do something with this.
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We could get a lot of money out of this.
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Yeah, and maybe, I don't know.
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That's only a theory, but I don't know.
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From that point on, she became a figure of sort of a black Trump supporter, like a diamond
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in silk type.
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Again, a huge get.
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Yeah, absolutely.
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And then she posted a bunch of dumb videos.
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Maybe some of them aren't that dumb.
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I've only watched a few and I could only stand a couple of minutes of it.
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But...
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Pass.
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Yeah.
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Hunt.
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And then Kanye West was like, I like the way she thinks, and then she blew up.
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Right.
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Because Kanye is crazy.
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Yeah.
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So that's her.
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Anyway, we got to get on.
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She is an above average conservative based on demographic utility for them.
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I know.
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No, no, no.
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And I said it essentially the same thing when I said she's a huge get.
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But man, somehow demographic utility is a really, oh, that's a harsh.
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That's part of my pivot game.
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Yeah, man.
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My transitions.
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That was good stuff.
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In the next clip, Alex is going to talk about the average conservative and what they have
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to go through.
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Oh, no.
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Well, so far, only Tucker Carlson, Rush Limbaugh, Sean Hannity, some white big time white have
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said, look, the left is trying to shut down Alex Jones.
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They're demonizing what he said.
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They're taking it out of context.
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Regardless, we're not big tech organizes in a monopoly and tries to deplatform somebody
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everywhere.
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That is to set a precedent to do it officially to conservatives ahead of the midterms.
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Now, since they've got big sites now and Congressman Gates reported on this two weeks ago, finally,
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we tried to get the info to him that they have sites that track shadow banding.
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The average conservative we put up the graph earlier is shadow band 93 percent.
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That's unfortunate because he did put up a graph and I was able to find out where that
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graph came from.
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And there are not sites that track shadow banding.
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That's not what he's talking about at all.
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Yeah.
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Alex is basing this 93 percent number on an article he read on the Gateway Pundit with
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a headline that says, shock study, Facebook has eliminated 93 percent of the traffic to
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top conservative Web sites since the 2016 election.
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Of course.
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He clearly didn't read this article, which says, quote, In 2017, Harvard and Columbia
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Journalism Review found that the Gateway Pundit was the fourth most influential conservative
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news source in the 2016 election.
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Because of this, we were targeted and have seen our numbers related to Facebook and Twitter
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decline dramatically.
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In every single Facebook category, our numbers are down.
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In page visits, our numbers were skyrocketing before the election.
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Then in three distinct periods, our numbers were cut off.
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That had nothing to do with the quality of our posts, as we have proof that our generic
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numbers are up and continue to increase in all statistical categories provided to us
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by Facebook.
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Our current numbers are below their linear projections of what we should be.
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In February, Facebook launched another algorithm change to their platform.
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With these changes, we saw our traffic dwindle even further.
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We weren't the only ones affected.
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The algorithmic change caused President Donald Trump's engagement on Facebook posts to plummet
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a whopping 45 percent.
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In contrast, according to Breitbart, someone at Breitbart, Senators Elizabeth Warren and
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Bernie Sanders do not appear to have suffered a comparable decline in Facebook engagement.
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Weird.
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Unfortunately, around the specific times he's talking about, those were the times that Facebook
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purged tons of fake accounts and bots.
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So the idea that you're getting less traffic is probably because of less automated activity
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on those social media platforms.
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What you're doing is basically putting out a study where you own yourself a little bit.
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You play yourself out.
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Because if, like legitimately, if there was a 93 percent drop in their traffic coming
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from Facebook and Twitter, what you would hear is an unbelievable outcry from the people
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that were looking for it and isn't there now.
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Like 93 percent of the people who previously were all about Gateway Pundit now know Gateway
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Pundit.
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It would be crazy huge.
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Now these people complain a lot.
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Don't get me wrong.
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They make a lot of noise, but it's certainly not proportionate to 93 percent of your audience
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has now been cut off.
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The audience isn't concerned about it.
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You are.
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And I think on some level you know it's because that was fake traffic to begin with.
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So Alex's only source on this, and I know it because of that image of the graph that
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he flashed up on screen, is a study that Gateway Pundit did that followed the traffic from
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Facebook for a number of websites, awful ones like Breitbart, Daily Caller and Gateway Pundit,
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as well as some that you've never heard of, like one called 100 percent Fed Up.
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Never heard of that.
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And the only thing that this study shows is that they have dropped considerably in Facebook
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engagement.
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Now if that's true and we trust the stats that they're not necessarily authenticating
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but citing, they put the numbers of what we're supposed to believe.
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If that's true, I'll go ahead, I'll stipulate that those numbers are true.
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I would say that you guys had a real good run in the 2016 election for a weird reason.
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And maybe your numbers are coming back down to where they should have been based on the
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quality of your clearly not true reports.
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I can't think of any reason that they would have had a massive influx of fake bots during
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the 2016 election.
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There's just no reason I can think of.
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One of the examples that they use is Breitbart and there was that Vanity Fair article that
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very clearly pointed out the sharp uptick in traffic to Breitbart and then sharp drop
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almost to the exact same point as if there was a complete fake engagement campaign.
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And you have to assume that there's some-
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Who would want to do that?
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I don't know.
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Who with the resources and the know-how would want to influence the traffic to these sites?
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I can't think of anybody.
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Total mystery.
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I cannot think of anybody.
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Total mystery.
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Completely blindsided by this information, Dan.
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Speaking of total mysteries, we now get to a guest.
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Oh, there's a guest?
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I would have liked for Media Matters or Right Wing Watch.
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I would like either of them to have brought up any of the things that we've talked about
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already that are deeply problematic, but I would have most liked them to bring up this
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interview.
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This is a guy we have not necessarily seen before on our podcast, but boy, he sucks.
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John Gundalo is president and founder of Understanding the Threat, the only organization in the nation
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which provides a detailed assessment of the enemy threat in your local area, provides
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law enforcement investigative solutions, and creates state-level counter-insurgency strategies
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to identify, dismantle, and defeat the jihadist network.
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Oh, that's not good.
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Oh, did you cut through what that's saying?
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Oh, that's not good.
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You hear what he's saying?
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Oh, that's real bad.
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That's the only website that allows you to find out where Muslims live and fucking show
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up at their house and fuck them up.
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Spoiler alert.
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He also trains cops.
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God damn it!
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Notably, Maricopa County cops.
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God damn it!
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No!
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Fuck!
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Yeah.
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Uh, why isn't he dead yet?
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Well, I don't know.
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Why isn't he dead yet?
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I don't know.
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Um, so he sucks.
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Uh, already we just know that from the, we know that from Alex's intro, um, and...
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Man, we should have gotten a Maricopa County number.
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Yeah, I know.
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That would have been fantastic.
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That would have been great.
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What if we could have gotten Joe Arpaio?
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Oh, what if we could have gotten his actual home phone number?
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We could get it from the Dennis Montgomery information.
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That's true.
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Oh, I gotta call Dennis.
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Shit, we gotta do it.
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So let's let, uh, John say a few things and then we'll, uh, talk a little bit about his
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life's work.
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What I think the problem is, the biggest threat, Alex, is us.
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And I don't mean you and me.
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I mean our leadership that has forgotten and been criminally negligent.
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I wish he'd stop there.
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That would have been great.
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I couldn't, we could have, we could have a baseline of like, yeah, yeah, totally get
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it.
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Government is negligent.
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Oh yeah, absolutely.
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I don't like where he goes with it.
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Defending their oaths of office, which is a legally binding oath and they've to understand
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who we are.
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I think if our leaders understand who we are and what the underpinnings of the Republic
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are, then when the Marxist and the communist and the socialist and the Islamic movement,
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the jihadis come along, we, we easily shrug them off as being absurd and we won't let
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them in our society to have any play.
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Okay.
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All right, bad.
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Not great.
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Bad.
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I would put that as a, as a, as a negative.
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I would put that in the negative column.
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Yeah.
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But I'd also put him at like a, uh, minus four, but, but that's not bad for an Alex
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guest.
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Like that minus four is minus four is just average.
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So I want to tell you, cause you have no idea who is John Gondolo.
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I don't want to know.
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Quote, do I John Gondolo touts his FBI background to lend himself credibility for his training
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courses.
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Yes, he was.
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Okay.
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Which are offered to law enforcement and civilians alike.
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Often omitted, however, is the controversial manner in which he departed the federal law
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enforcement agency.
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In 2008, Gondolo resigned from the Bureau in disgrace after a number of ethical breaches
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and bizarre conduct, including admitting to having affairs with female FBI agents and
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a confidential source.
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He was assigned to protect during the corruption case of former us rep William Jefferson, Democrat
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from Louisiana.
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He also solicited that witness for a 75,000 donation to an anti-terrorism group.
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That's actually an anti-Muslim front.
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That's not good.
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Here's an article in the New Orleans Times Picayune.
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Quote, according to court documents unsealed last week, the FBI and its Office of Professional
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Responsibility knew at least as far back as December that the agent, John Gondolo, had
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an intimate relationship with a confidential source he thought could damage the investigation.
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But they never passed that information to the U.S. Attorney's Office prosecuting Jefferson
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or the lead FBI agent in the investigation.
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Quote, this is just unbelievable, said George Washington University law professor Jonathan
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Turley, who has followed the case closely.
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Quote, if the FBI was aware that an agent had an improper relationship with a confidential
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source, it is information that should have been disclosed to the court.
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It's very disturbing, said Harvey Silverglate, a Boston lawyer and author of recent book
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critical of the federal law enforcement.
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Quote, first of all, an agent shouldn't be having an affair with a government informant.
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If that does happen, of course, it must be disclosed because it's very simple.
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Yeah, because it could affect the credibility of the informant and the individual agent
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and the investigation.
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Oh, you think?
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Yeah.
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According to a statement from Modi, that's the lady, the informant that he was banging
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around with included in the unsealed document.
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She said she and Gondolo engaged in, quote, mild intimacy in New Orleans in April 2005.
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And that heavy petting.
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And then on subsequent occasions, Gondolo made, quote, inappropriate sexual advances
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in a car at her townhouse and at her parents' home.
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On one occasion, she said he was, quote, overly aggressive, but she fended him off.
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Once or twice then, between late April and end of May 2005, they had consensual sex.
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From there, he resigned from the FBI in disgrace and began inciting hatred and fear of Muslims.
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From a...
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Lateral move.
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Lateral move.
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Yeah.
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According to a 2012 article in the Associated Press, quote, John Gondolo, vice president
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of the Arlington, Virginia-based Strategic Engagement Group, is leading the training
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being held this week at the World Outreach Church in Murfreesboro during an anti-sharia
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law conference in Madison last year.
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Gondolo said that local mosques were front organizations for the Muslim Brotherhood.
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Quote, they do not have a First Amendment right to do anything.
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Gondolo said then.
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He did not return a message from the Associated Press he can comment in time for the story.
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Muslims don't have a First Amendment.
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Oh, boy.
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These people who love the Constitution sure hate the Constitution.
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In March 2018, Southwest Airlines condemned John Gondolo, a former FBI agent whose, quote,
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Muslim threat training has repeatedly ensnared Arizona law enforcement agencies in controversy.
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However, they called what he did on Twitter a cruel and inappropriate tweet targeting
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an airline employee.
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Gondolo posted a tweet picturing an unidentified worker at the airport as he traveled to the
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Western Conservative Conference in Phoenix.
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Quote, I wish this were shocking, a Sharia-adherent Muslim on my... at my plane, he wrote, adding
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the hashtag, quote, Sharia kills.
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So just like a...
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Just like a person.
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Okay.
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Yeah.
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Just a random dude.
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Yeah.
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On Twitter.
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Just like a person.
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Yeah.
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And as it turns out, Gondolo has a deep history of doing this shit.
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In September 2017, he posted pictures he took of two TSA employees he decided were Muslim
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just based on the fact that they looked Arabic to him with the captions, quote, am I the
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only person who sees a problem with terrorists protecting us and, quote, nothing like traveling
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through LaGuardia Airport with Sharia-adherent Muslims wearing TSA uniforms.
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What a fucking pile of shit.
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Really think there might be something bad there.
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Can't put my finger on it, Dan.
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What a monster.
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It's almost like he judges people based upon not, like, their content of their character,
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but instead the color of their skin.
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Right.
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I agree.
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Now, so we have...
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Odd.
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We have a guy who's going around and touting his FBI credentials in order to do these anti-Muslim
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law enforcement training things when he clearly just hates Muslims.
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Like, it's not about some sort of fear of radical jihad or anything like that.
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He's triggered by the idea that anybody who might be of Arabic heritage is working at
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an airport to the point where he's three times taken pictures of people apropos of nothing.
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It's not like those people are like...
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He didn't have a conversation.
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No.
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He didn't talk to them.
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No.
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He saw them and said that Muslims are...
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Yeah.
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They're clearly pictures that were taken without these people's consent.
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For sure.
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They're not looking at the camera.
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They're probably zoomed in.
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It's crazy.
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Like, this guy is a dick.
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Alex is having him on the show to talk about these great threats like socialism and Islam
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in America.
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He needs to do a better job of vetting his guests.
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Isn't that a crime?
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What?
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I think it might be a crime.
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What?
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Right?
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To anonymously take a picture of somebody and then post slanderous things about them?
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Yeah.
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But those people are the only ones who have standing to say anything about it, so we can't
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do it.
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That's true.
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That's true.
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So we have a professional problem with what he does that clearly it's not based on actual
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evidence.
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It's based on hatred.
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Yeah.
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I have another problem with him, and that's that he fucked a fucking informant while he
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was working for the FBI that almost jeopardized a huge investigation.
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What do you mean almost?
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That's ground for mistrial right there.
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It didn't turn out that it was.
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Oh, with a surprise, because our justice system is great.
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No, because what we just talked about earlier that they didn't report it.
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Yeah.
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No, but that should be then like a, oh, he gets a lawyer and they're like, yeah, of course
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that's a mistrial.
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We're going to either invalidate this thing or redo it.
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Well, they tried to appeal the case.
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Because their justice system is great.
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The case was successful against, what was that guy's name?
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William Jefferson, Representative William Jefferson, the corruption case.
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And when they tried to appeal it on the grounds that they didn't disclose that the informant
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was fucking this John Gondola.
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Which is grounds for a mistrial immediately and if the justice system worked perfectly.
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It turns out it's not though.
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Like I think that it's-
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Really?
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I think that it's probably fair that they decided not to rehear the case because it
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was not necessarily substantive to the case itself.
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It's abhorrent behavior on the part of an agent, and that's why he had to fucking hit
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the bricks in disgrace.
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He got sacked hard.
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And in terms of the actual case, all he was doing was driving her to meet with him and
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posing as the driver.
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So their relationship wouldn't have actually, it wouldn't have changed the outcome of the
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information that was gathered by her wearing a wire talking to him or whatever.
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So I understand why the appeal would be unsuccessful, but it is the epitome of unethical behavior.
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It's actions unbecoming of someone who we hope would be in that position.
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What in the FBI?
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They still killed Fred Hampton.
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They murdered him.
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Fuck off FBI.
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Right.
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They could have just fucked Fred Hampton, you know?
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That would have been great.
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Anyway, that's probably the worst riff I've ever done.
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So-
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As long as it was consensual.
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You know what I'm saying?
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Do you agree?
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What?
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Do you consent to me making that riff?
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Anyway-
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I think it's grounds for a redo of this podcast, but otherwise-
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From the top.
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From the top.
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Repackage that hand.
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So Jordan, in this next clip, we get the last little piece of John Gondolo saying something.
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And then I have a real harsh criticism of the narrative that he's putting out there.
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And this is something that Alex talks about all the time.
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It's part of his sort of his main worldview.
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And I think it's deeply, deeply flawed.
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Millions of people are dead from the Marxist, communist, socialist movements.
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Millions of people have been killed by the sword of Islam in the 1400 years that they've
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existed.
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And their doctrine supports it.
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That's the difference.
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Neighbors.
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Neighbors.
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Neighbors.
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So Jordan, Alex and his guests have brass balls comparing the deaths of Islam or socialism
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or Marxism that they've caused.
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When you consider the statistics, they are conveniently ignoring to wit the number of
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deaths you can easily associate as a direct result of capitalism or Christianity.
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Let's start with some easy stuff.
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The USA is responsible for between 10 and 15 million deaths in Vietnam, Korean and Iraq
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wars that we've had, various other proxy wars in Pakistan, Sudan, Afghanistan, other places
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around the world add an additional 9 to 14 million deaths.
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So just with pointless wars that we've been in since World War II, we have, you know,
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between 19 and 29 million deaths on our hands.
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Then according to UNICEF, 22,000 children die every day because of the direct consequences
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of poverty or 8,030,000 a year.
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Consider the idea that there was a very robust Native American population in America before
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we came around.
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Then you got to consider the entire slave trade.
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After all, what could be more capitalist than selling people?
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And let's talk about Christianity a tiny bit.
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In 1234, an archbishop of Bremen ordered the slaughter of a group of peasants in Stedding,
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leading to between 5,000 and 11,000 deaths.
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Man of God.
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They were labeled heretics there because they refused to pay church taxes.
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God said so.
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So that's the intersection of Christianity and capitalism.
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God said so.
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God loves the tithe.
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If you don't pay the tithe, the sentence is death, right?
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God said that.
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Pretty sure that was actually, I'm pretty sure Jesus said that directly.
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You know what he was all about.
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Money for the church.
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Money, money, money, money.
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The Catholic Church killed about 20,000 people in the Albingeison Crusade, which they launched
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because they didn't like how the Cathars had Gnostic beliefs mixed in with the Catholicism.
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Gross.
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When the Catholic armies laid siege to the Cathars in 1209, there was some concern that
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soldiers would have difficulty telling the difference between the Cathars and the Catholics.
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So the abbot commander replied, quote, kill them all, the Lord will recognize his own.
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Then there's the other crusades, all the inquisitions, all the centuries of witch hunting slash burning,
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the rampant history of colonialism and failed missionary activity that mysteriously pivots
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into genocide pretty regularly.
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An eyewitness of the Spanish missionaries behavior towards natives was supposed to have
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been described by an eyewitness thusly, quote, the Spaniards found pleasure in inventing
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all kinds of odd cruelties.
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They built a long giblet, long enough for the toes to touch the ground to prevent strangulation,
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and then hanged 13 natives at a time in honor of Christ our savior and the 12 apostles.
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Then straw was wrapped around their torn bodies and they were buried, burned alive.
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The population of Hispaniola was reduced from 400,000 to 200.
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They killed so many natives that they had to begin importing slaves from other islands.
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Quote, in less than a normal lifetime of a single human being, an entire culture of millions
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of people, thousands of years, thousands of years resident in their home hand had been
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exterminated.
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You know what?
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I am going to go way out on a limb here and I am going to say that, in fact, the problem
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is not religion.
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No.
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The problem is fucking dudes.
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It is not people.
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Oh, they were the ones who were doing that.
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It is dudes.
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Do you want to, do you want to, do you want to know what the biggest similarity between
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Christianity.
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And they probably beat the ones back then too.
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I'm sorry.
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Do you know what the biggest similarity between Christianity and Islam is?
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Fucking patriarchy.
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There's a big part of that.
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That's it.
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That's it.
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Like at the end of the day, fucking dudes, man.
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There's a very strong trend.
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These people are fucking apes.
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They're not human beings.
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They're just a weird like mix of all of the evolutionary behavior and the lizard brain
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and the, they're not people.
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The point that I wanted to make, I agree with you and it is dudes, but also the bigger point
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that I want to make is that I don't think that like communism has killed the amount
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of people that Alex pretends they have.
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Probably dudes.
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Because a lot of it is mismanagement and they always over inflate the statistics to include
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like famines and droughts.
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We talked about that in terms of China.
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Which are caused by those dudes.
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No doubt.
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No doubt.
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They are a unfortunate by-product of mismanagement.
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That's not the same thing as slaughtering people, although they also did do that.
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They did do that.
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But the numbers are hyperinflated because of natural trends that happen on the ground.
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The idea of, you know, 22,000 children die every day because of like direct poverty causes,
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that is being done by capitalism.
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Yep.
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Like that is a direct result of it.
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It is the violent end of what capitalism does.
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Yep.
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It is the thing that you don't want to look at.
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And in the same way, I don't think that Christianity and I don't think Islam is responsible for
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the other deaths either.
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I think it's, like you say, it's dudes.
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It's dudes.
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It's evil dudes who use a system in order to empower their evilness.
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Yep.
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The only thing that really is like, no, this is really its fault, is capitalism.
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Yep.
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Because...
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Or wealth.
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Or wealth.
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Greed.
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Right.
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Right.
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I mean, power...
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But those are the primary drivers and motivators within capitalism.
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Yeah.
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Of capitalism.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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Absolutely.
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Yeah.
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No.
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I think at the end of the day, what we're saying is that we should all go to Seattle
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and murder Jeff Bezos and pee in his throat.
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There you go.
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Isn't that what we are all saying?
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I think so.
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Again, for real, dudes, go to bed.
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Yeah.
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Go to bed, dudes.
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For like 20 years, just go to bed.
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Go to bed.
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Just get out of there.
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Take a lap.
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Take five.
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Just get out of here for a while.
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Let everybody fucking fix shit, and then we'll come back and we'll be like, oh no.
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But it'll be too late for us.
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So I hate John Gondolo quite a bit.
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I loved learning about his- Yeah, I hate him now too.
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Thanks for bringing another human being that I wish for death upon.
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No problem.
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Great.
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Great.
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Great, Dan.
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I ended up running out of time because I was like, oh my God, capitalism and Christianity
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have been responsible for a lot of various weird and very fucked up deaths over the years
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that Alex doesn't want to talk about.
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And so I almost ended up like we would have talked about that for an hour just because
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I would have been like, oh, here's another story.
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Here's another story.
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Yeah.
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I was going to say I'm about to throw in like 40 of mine.
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Yeah.
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But we can get off that.
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John Gondolo's gone now.
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And now we come to the end of Alex's time because like I said, David Knight fills in
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for the end of the show.
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And Alex is getting out early and when I said earlier in the show that we're doing that
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Alex's fate is in his own hands, this doesn't inspire confidence in me.
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Like I don't think- You don't think he's got this one?
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If this is what he's coming with when he's about to leave on the day that he gets kicked
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off everything, no, I don't think this is good.
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You know, we will beat these globalists if people wake up and if they take action.
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But if they don't, we're going to lose everything.
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It's that simple.
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I mean, they're coming for everything we've got.
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The band is why he doesn't have it.
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I think we're soft, dumb Americans that spend half our time in front of screens every day
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and they don't want us jacking into the Matrix.
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Take the Matrix analogy like an attack ship trying to send people in to get people out
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of it.
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But I don't like Hollywood.
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So what if he's got more viewers and listeners than us?
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We don't want to admit that because our sponsors might leave us.
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Your sponsors are big mega cores.
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They're not going to leave you because you're falling.
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They're going to increase your funding and you figured that out.
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But they had a price.
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There is a price barbarian.
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You said, what's the price?
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Advocate all truth, submit to evil, become instruments of corruption, instruments of
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racketeering, call for censorship, spew out endless lies and destroy your competition
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even as you defame them.
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Only then will you be powerful enough.
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Even in terms of times he's done that exact same thing in the past, that's a C. That's
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a C job.
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I got bored.
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I zoned out a little bit.
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I kept thinking about how maybe it's because of Cake that he's never, he's going to be
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perpetually...
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You kind of just want to listen to Cake.
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No, he's going to be perpetually mediocre.
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Maybe it's just me that I wanted to listen to Cake.
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I don't.
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I'm like, I enjoyed Cake whenever it had its time, but now you've got to let Cake go.
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They're unlike any other band from that era.
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What about Soul Coughing?
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Much better.
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They're very much like Soul Coughing.
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Not really.
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I'm not saying that Cake is better than all those bands or anything like that, but I don't
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think that any other band from the nineties around that time when I was of that age, I
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don't think any of their music hits my ear the same way.
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I think Cake was very unique.
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Not in terms, I don't like the distance necessarily.
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That's not where I live necessarily.
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I love Commissioning a Symphony in C.
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Commissioning a Symphony in C is a legitimately great song.
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I will not argue with you.
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That's what I think is more indicative, not necessarily of their sound, but what makes
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them weird, what makes them really great.
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I think that is actually the opposite of that.
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That one was a departure of theirs from their quote, sound.
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No, no, no, no.
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That was, what was that?
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Track four on a, yeah, yeah.
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Here's the problem.
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What made that song great also exists in the other songs like The Distance or I Will Survive.
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They were covers of better songs.
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All right.
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I'm just fucking with you.
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How is it that eventually any conversation we have about Alex turns into like a, so here's
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why this music from the nineties wasn't as good as you might remember.
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I think we already said why.
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It's because that is a boring facsimile of Alex doing his demon voice and shit like that.
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It's uninspired.
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It's not like, there's nothing behind it that we haven't heard before.
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It's like, so I, I, I, what was that?
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What was the hit they had though where everybody danced?
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What was the one?
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It played on MTV for like forever.
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You're Never There?
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No, no, no, no, no.
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That's a good song.
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No, it was the one, fuck, shit, now I'm going to, now I'm going to lose my mind.
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Long Skirt, Short Skirt, Long Jacket.
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That was the one.
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That's a great song too.
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It was, it's a great song.
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You know what the thing about, you know what the thing about Cake was?
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They were a bass driven band in a world full of guitar driven bands.
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The only other people you could talk about is like Les Claypool and I don't, I don't
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like that.
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I don't like that world.
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They, they, it was, no, their, their charm was built around the vocals of that guy because
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they were so terrible.
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Bullshit.
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Bullshit.
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Fuck you.
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And the only reason that the vocals of that band were so palatable at the time was because
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of Soul Coughing.
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I'm telling you right now, this is Soul Coughing's hit, Walk Around in Circles.
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I don't need to walk around in circles, walk around in circles.
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Yeah, essentially.
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No.
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Adults who have played them on a loop.
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That was why, that was what happened.
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Anyways.
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No, you're not getting off the hook this season.
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I think there's a direct lineage based upon that.
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You're not getting off the hook.
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This is, look, now we're going to start talking about Fastball and this is trouble.
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Fastball, The Way is pretty good.
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Well, yeah.
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That album wasn't that great.
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I did buy that album.
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Okay, so Singles.
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I love this show.
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Soul Coughing.
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I'm telling you, this is the greatest show we've ever done.
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Soul Coughing.
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Yes.
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Singles.
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Yes.
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From 1994, Down to This.
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Down to This wasn't terrible.
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What?
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You've never heard that song.
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Yeah, I have.
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It goes like this.
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Down to this.
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That's it.
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None of these charted.
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None of these charted except Circles.
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Right.
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I don't need to walk around.
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Very difficult.
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No, but they did do the shit.
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What was the one?
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I don't know.
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It didn't fucking chart.
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It was the one.
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No, no, no.
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It was the song about...
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St. Louise is listening.
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Fuck.
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Super Bon Bon.
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No, Super Bon Bon was fine.
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Shit.
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I used to listen to this track all the time.
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Soundtrack to Mary.
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Fuck.
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What was it?
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Now I can't remember.
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I remember listening to this in around 2004 whenever I was driving to go visit a bunch
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of colleges.
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There was this song wherein they talk about, uh, shit.
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What am I fucking doing?
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What's the name of the goddamn song, Dan?
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What are you doing?
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I think you're probably trying to come up with the name of a bad song.
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No, it's a shit.
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It's like, uh, fuck.
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Now all I can think of is No More Parties in LA by, uh, by Kanye and Kendrick Lamar.
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Fuck.
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What's the name of it?
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I'm going to lose my mind.
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I can't help you, man.
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I'm going to lose my fucking mind.
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I'm going to lose my goddamn mind.
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Never There was a good song.
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I Will Survive, The Distance, those were hits.
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Not the best ones, though.
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Sheep Go to Heaven.
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That was a fun one.
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Sheep Go to Heaven was actually a good one.
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That was pretty good.
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Short skirt, long jacket.
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Yeah, that's about it.
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Yep.
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Now, let's talk about...
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We did it.
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Now, let's talk about Tonic.
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You Wanted More?
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That's a great song.
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No, it is not.
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It is.
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No, it is not.
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It really is.
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No, it is not.
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I Don't Know When I Got Bitter, But Love Is Surely Better When It's Gone.
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No.
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Uh-uh.
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Uh-uh.
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Shit.
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Everybody is...
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People are going to post in the group the song that I'm thinking of, and it's going
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to murder me.
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I hope it's just talk about how great Tonic is.
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No.
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I'm not sure the Tonic was great, but I did love that song when I was younger.
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It's one of those long, rambling songs.
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It's one of those long, rambling songs where the guy talks...
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Oh, Stare We Head.
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No!
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God damn it!
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It's where he talks about the whole thing.
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Oh, oh, oh.
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2012's my rush.
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No, you're going to kill me.
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You're going to kill me.
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I'm losing my mind.
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Anyways, we've got to skip this.
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We've got to skip this.
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We can't do this anymore.
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Okay.
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So, we're coming to the end of this episode.
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Yeah.
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Alex has made his dismount sort of there.
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Right.
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He's done his attempt at the demon voice, and now he's going to try to really raise
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the stakes on people not defending him, and it's really, really weird.
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Because they see whatever's in America and the existing free market capitalist system
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that's got its problems, but it's perfect compared to them, they see it as the enemy
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in a existential overthrow.
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So they have taken over the internet, got us all to advertise that we're on Facebook,
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YouTube, or Twitter, let us push all our energy to them to make them number one for years,
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and to make them 90% of the web, and now they're using that monopoly power to crush everyone
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and strangle it, and say, socially conform to us, and we won't censor you.
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So most conservatives went, fine, what is the token of travel?
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They said, we want you to attack Alex Jones.
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People were told this.
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Don't promote Alex Jones.
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In fact, attack him, we'll let those videos go viral.
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So everyone, from former members of my family to people I've known and done nothing to,
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lined up to attack and demonize me for a year and a half to set the precedent, then they
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move to the next person.
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Okay, now it's Candace Owens, get rid of her.
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Now it's this person, and then everybody gangs up on them until they think they'll be the
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last person standing, and Glenn Beck was told four years ago that he would be the last guy
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standing, but now he knows they set him up.
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I mean, Alex is right there just saying that attacking him is the mark of the beast.
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It's the token of travel, or whatever.
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You know what you want your shit to say online, talk shit on Alex.
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And I'm here to say, it doesn't help.
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That's true.
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We've been talking shit about Alex for two years.
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For a long time.
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And it has not helped.
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Everybody else with a larger platform has essentially ignored us.
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Thank you to everyone who does like our show.
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That is nice.
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But for the rest of the world, it's not like some magical golden ticket into the Willy
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Wonka factory of search engine optimization hits.
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No, we can't even get into pod mess, we're fine.
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So like, this is cockamamie to me, and it also I just, you know, it's one of those things.
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I love that he's having to dig deep into his bag of tricks and bring out all of these things.
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Like he's bringing out the idea that like, it's the mark of the beast.
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To attack a lot of God on this episode, there's a bit of it, but then also the because it's
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time to break.
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Well, but then also the Colonel Travis metaphor with the remember info wars, right?
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Like he's having to do all of this stuff just to rationalize, like, I gotta keep people
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on board.
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What I see here, I see, I see just weakness, you know, I don't, I don't, I don't, I don't
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know if it's just my awareness of him or, or anything like that, but I just see, I see
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a guy who's been bluffing for a long time who like realizes now that who he's playing
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against at the poker table is going to call.
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Like he realized up till this point, it didn't look like YouTube, Facebook, any of the, it
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didn't look like they had a hand.
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They were going to play and then out of nowhere, the river hit and they made their straight
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or whatever.
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Yeah.
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I've been using way too many poker and now that was a solid analogy, but like that's
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what's going on and he's like, I know I'm going to have to fold, but I'm going to sit
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here and vamp for a little while.
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So he brings out some of the familiar narratives he has on in Islamophobe cause you know, keep,
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keep the status quo going.
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You know, it's honestly, I wanted him to freak out.
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I wanted, that's what I wanted to see from him.
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That's what it would have fit.
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No, it seems like he's going a little bit belly up.
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Yeah.
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Like I think he, I think he might be done.
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He's surrendering a little bit.
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Maybe that's our monkey's paw situation is, uh, Alex Jones is taken down and so we have
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to scramble to find somebody else.
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No, we got 20 of 2009, 2010 stuff.
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That's true.
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But Jim Baker isn't going to sustain us in the present day.
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No, but there's so many mysteries of how things got to this point.
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You know, like I don't think the, like the present day taking down of Alex inconveniences
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us except it's harder for me to find the actual episodes.
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You know, like I have to, I have to jump through hurdles a little bit in order to find them,
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but that like, that's a small issue.
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I don't think like Alex Jones disappears tomorrow from every single platform or whatever.
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If that happens, we could still do this show for a very long time, uncovering like what,
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what, what, how did this happen?
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What are the transformations that happened?
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Right.
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We could still do this show for the next five years just going back through his archives.
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It would be, it would be a very interesting history.
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And honestly, I would much rather do that.
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Yeah, a little bit.
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Because the present is not that interesting.
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Even him getting kicked off all of these platforms isn't that interesting.
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What have we seen?
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We've seen him do the exact same show that he did before.
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It's really disappointing.
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He blames the Chinese.
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He blames everybody but himself.
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He pretends he didn't do the things that he very absolutely did that people are accusing
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them of.
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He makes straw man arguments against himself to defend himself about.
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And then he sells stuff.
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It's nothing.
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It's not different at all.
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It's boring.
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Yeah.
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He's going to have to make a real turn.
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Either he does or he dies.
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I think, like I said, his fate is in his hands.
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Yeah.
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If he doesn't make a turn, he's gone.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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That's fascinating.
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Probably.
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I'm really interested by that.
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And it's not, it's not that he's going to be gone because he's been oppressed by like
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the tech elites or anything.
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It's because he failed to evolve.
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Yeah.
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Like you have to, when you are in this game that he pretends he's the best at, you gotta
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keep swimming.
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You gotta keep going.
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You have to keep swimming and changing or else.
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You gotta be a daddy shark.
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And that's what leads him into embarrassment so often because he ends up like, you know,
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going along with Pizzagate and then having to apologize and stuff like that.
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But if you don't play by that, that game, what you end up with is so reserved that you
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aren't, you have no traction.
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You aren't cutting edge.
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You aren't, you aren't interesting to the idiots that are your market.
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The problem is he's playing defense.
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We're so used to him always playing offense.
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But he's trying to play offensive defense.
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Yeah, but he's not doing good.
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He's yelling just, Chinese did this to me.
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Yeah, but he's playing a counterattacking style, uh, Allah, uh, Roger Stone.
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He's trying to be Roger Stone.
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Yeah, but he can't do that.
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He's not, he's not savvy enough.
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Like the, the playbook, the playbook of always attack and never defend works really well
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when you have been doing that since you were 19 or something like that.
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Right.
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Roger at high stakes levels.
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Alex has not really had any real pushback until a couple of years ago.
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Like I know that he had people who are like, you're a shit, you're an idiot and stuff like
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that.
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But it's the same thing with like, I get comments on our website like about blogs I wrote and
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stuff like that.
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They're like, Soros is a demon.
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You should know that.
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And like, of course.
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Sure.
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But it's the same thing for him.
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That's what he's been able to do for years and years and now he can't, fair enough.
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It's an existential crisis for him in some ways.
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I don't know.
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Anyway, we got one last clip and this is how Alex ends the show.
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He decides to go out a little bit dramatically.
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But this clip's a little bit longer, but I think it's a fun ride.
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So I left it intact.
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But this is everybody's fight and it's happening now in a big, big way.
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They didn't just take my podcast off.
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They took all our others.
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They took Owen Schroyers off.
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They just said, you'd bully the child.
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You were transphobic.
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You were Islamophobic.
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We don't even show you what we say.
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We just, you're now off everything because we organize the left to lobby for it and to
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call for it and to pillory and to have lawsuits concerted with it to demonize you.
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This is the plan.
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But the number one most important thing you can understand is this.
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This is about you.
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This is about shutting you up.
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This is about coming after your free speech.
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This is about the big enchilada.
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Period.
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Now is the time to tell your neighbors, your friends, your family, everybody you work with,
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not just today, but tomorrow and next week and next month, Hey, member info wars, member
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news wars.
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Man, the guy they don't want you to know about, what is it he's talking about?
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Well, he was an evil American that learned about a global government plan.
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He was an evil American that learned about a plan to break up the family.
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He was an evil American that learned about a plan to make us all poor that Bill Maher
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even admits.
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He was an evil American that had to be taught a lesson.
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So we cherry picked a few things he said over the years and misconstrued it and built it
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all up as the pretext to then set the precedent to shut everybody else down.
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So why don't you be a free human and actually find out at info wars.com forward slash show
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because you know, the next thing they're going to do is try to get rid of our apps and our
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droid apps and our iPhone apps.
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These still subscribe to for now and share with folks that's a fine vehicle.
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But the most important thing I've been talking about for a long time and probably 50 meetings
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and today it's going to finally happen.
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I was a meeting last week and I said, they'll ban us off YouTube, Facebook and Twitter probably
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the next two weeks.
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Everybody else said that.
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Oh no, they won't like, well, I just need links on the articles and the pages.
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Get the podcast here because the podcast is us and a lot of you can't watch or listen
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live.
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We're going to be off all these platforms.
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You're going to want to go get, but what do I know?
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You know, it's kind of like around here, fricking meteorite could hit the building and we've
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got a great crew.
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They're just not arrogant.
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Like, you know, the New York times, they don't think much of themselves in a good way.
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So it's kind of like, eh, yeah, never going to happen, never going to happen till like
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five people in meetings last week is going to never going to happen because you know,
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I don't know anything.
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So what will never happen is links all over info wars.com and at the top of every article
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and the bottom of every article to get the free newsletter and to get the free app because
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all of you need to get it and share it with everybody separately.
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Globals think you're done.
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They think you're weak.
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They think you're not going to go get the great supplements and products.
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We've got it in full war store.com.
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They think you're not going to take advantage of the big sales we've got.
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That's how he decides to end his time before handing the baton to David Knight.
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Do you know what I heard immediately?
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He should probably not bring on air off air meetings on air.
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No, I heard, that's what I heard the same, uh, tone when we did our live show in Austin.
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That was the same tone as his last episode being broadcast live in Austin radio.
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So you're implying, and we don't know, we don't know this.
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He knows, but we, you're implying that he knows that there's more to come of his downfall.
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Oh yeah.
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That has not yet been, uh, not happened.
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I mean, we now know that since this episode was recorded and we are recording, we know
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the now MailChimp is gone.
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Yeah.
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Um, so yeah, I mean, I don't know.
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I don't know what else the world can do to him because it's not like some organization's
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going to be able to take away his short wave frequency or something like that.
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You know that there are things that are just intrinsic and built in, in terms of like,
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I will put this out and if you will re boost it, then yeah, there is still, there's still
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market access, but it's so diminished.
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I agree with you though.
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I mean, what I hear is resignation.
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I hear, um, and, and who knows the next week, maybe it's a bad day, you know, maybe the
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day it could be, maybe the day it happens, you expect as he comes in guns blazing and
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he's just like, I am fucking tired, just can't do it.
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So maybe it's like a thing where he shows up to work and he's like, fuck it.
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It happened.
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Maybe it just happened too soon and he needs to get with his writer's room and come up
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with like a, an angle on it and he didn't have time to tell me what to do.
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He didn't have time for it.
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I mean, also as part of the, uh, coverage of the Manafort trial, they had a picture
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of Manafort and Roger Stone and some other asshole at water and yeah, probably in like
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the seventies.
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Yeah.
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God, Roger Stone looks like a fucking rat.
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He looks weird.
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It's insane.
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He's disgusting.
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Yeah.
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I, I, people have asked if I've watched that bring me Roger Stone documentary Roger Stone
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and a spoiler alert.
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I watched about 10 minutes of it and I turned it off because it is propaganda through and
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through.
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Did not watch it.
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I can't imagine the end of it is anything interesting because the tone that they were
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setting up was like, I got to turn this off.
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This is way too friendly.
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As much as I, uh, find Roger Stone's Loki behavior to be, uh, low key, low key, low
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key, uh, low key in the sense that, uh, Loki was described in American gods by Neil Gaiman,
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uh, who's not a sponsor of the show.
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Neil Gaiman, if you're listening, just kicked off Facebook because he was mentioned on our
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podcast.
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No, it is, it is such a, like, I don't want to, I don't want to engage with his, his reality.
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Although within the first like five minutes or so, he's like, when I was young, I learned
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the value of disinformation and that's when you can turn it off.
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And then you're like, yeah, you did.
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So you're like, click.
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All right.
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You nailed it.
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All right.
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Good.
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Bye.
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Message received.
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So like, um, I honestly think that we've said most of what we feel and most of what we need
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to say about, um, this episode, the 86 86 episode of Alex Jones, 86 on eight six.
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It's not bad.
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It's not bad.
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Even though we've said it a couple of times, it's still, it's still great.
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It's still great.
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Um, I don't know what the future will bring.
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I don't pretend to, even as someone who studies him, I don't, I can't predict the future.
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I can.
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And I think you have also felt weakness on his part.
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And like we've said, maybe it's a, maybe it's a momentary lapse and then he comes swinging
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harder than ever.
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I think that's probably implausible.
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Um, but I don't know.
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And at the end of the day, I don't think it really matters because what Alex Jones embodies
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is still just as dangerous, even if he's not on Facebook, even if he's not on YouTube,
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the reach is diminished, but the people who are being abused by him are still being hurt
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by him.
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And by that I mean his fans.
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Yeah.
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Those people are still there.
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The people are going to become more radical, um, because they feel that these sort of actions
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reinforce his narratives.
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Yeah.
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So you end up in a position where it's like, well, yeah, you know, two steps forward, one
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step back to some extent, right?
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We've ended up further down Alex Jones's timeline and narrative perhaps, right?
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No, see, that is what I'm talking about.
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When I said his fate is in his hands, he should realize that, and I think he does on some
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level that this works for him.
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He just doesn't know how to make it work for him, right?
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Because on a certain level, there is a real opportunity that's actually become available
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to him that he will not know how to take advantage of simply because he believes that if he continues
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doing what he's doing, it will work out in the end.
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Well, because it always has.
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Exactly.
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He's gotten into, um, somewhat of a holding pattern.
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This is when we get into hubris.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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A little bit.
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Yeah.
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All it would really take for him to get through this, I think.
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Valvena's penis.
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Sure.
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Those Japanese wrestlers, like Taka Michinoku, come over and chop that peepee off.
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Gotta get him in there.
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But all it would really take is for him to get more extreme, say similar things to what
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he's saying, but advance the narrative a little bit and cut it out with some of the stuff
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that really is problematic.
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Like we're talking about active racism.
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Right.
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That sort of stuff, that's all it would really take.
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If he scaled some of that, but that would also probably lose him a bunch of his audience.
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Yeah.
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So I don't know.
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Here's what he does.
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Here's how he does it.
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All right.
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He goes for the redemption narrative.
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He learns.
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No.
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Because he learns that.
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No.
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Because Glenn Beck tried that and everyone realized what happened.
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Yeah.
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Everybody saw it was bullshit, but I don't mean the redemption in like, uh, we like him
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again.
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I mean, he goes the full opposite direction and says that, you know what, I have been
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fighting this whole time to protect the Republic, to protect, uh, Trump to who I thought was
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a genius, who I thought was going to save us.
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And at the end of the day, he did not speak for me.
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And if he doesn't speak for me, then he's not going to speak for you.
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And you know what we really need to do.
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We need to send a message, not just to the mainstream media, but to the government as
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it is who has co-opted president Trump.
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And we need to make sure that he pays attention to us.
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And he listens to our power until he does, we will fight him.
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And then he's, he's on the offensive again.
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He's got it.
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The circumstances are almost perfect too with that story that I brought up about Trump saying
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the California can enforce their own standards because he could weave that into like, I hate
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the idea of this climate hoax, but bullshit that you say that they can't make their own
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rules.
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He could make a principled stand on being against climate change, but what matters so
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much more is state's rights and Trump is against that.
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I must, I must philosophically make my break.
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That's never got the angle.
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It's never going to happen.
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I think what's more likely is within two months, he's going to end up on project Camelot because
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he's going to realize that Carrie Cassidy now has a bigger reach than him.
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So we can look forward to that episode.
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That'll be a great one.
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So fun.
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Can't wait for him to show up as a guest on a bunch of weirdo asshole YouTube channels.
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That'd be great.
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God damn it.
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I would love it.
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Anyway, Jordan, in the meantime, if you wanted to find us, we have not been kicked off many
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social media, none, none, not even one.
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Nope.
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I feel like you porn is still not willing to hold our, uh, to, well, they're not willing
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to do a lot of stuff with me.
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Yeah.
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That's sort of up in the air at this point.
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There's sort of wishy washy on us, but we have a website knowledge, fight.com indeed.
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You can follow us on Twitter at knowledge, right?
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You can go to, Oh, we are on Facebook.
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You can go to our Facebook group, go home and tell your mother you're brilliant.
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Please join that.
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We've seen actually a lot of new members join the group and it's been fantastic.
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Everybody's been active.
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Everybody loves because we put the word out that our Facebook page is not so active, but
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the Facebook group is where there's a lot of action.
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So please, if you like the show, I appreciate you liking the page, but the group is the
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way to go.
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Yeah.
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We're also on iTunes.
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Yeah, you haven't been kicked off that at all search on there.
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Uh, yeah.
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Uh, we have prosthetic limbs.
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That's pretty exciting.
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Now we do.
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Thank you, Ian.
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It is your turn, Dan, but I'm going to tell you, I have a strong contender that I'm hoping
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that you're gonna, you're gonna choose.
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All right.
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Well, I have only one candidate.
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He's a, he's for me, it's guy from Arizona.
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Are you talking about Joe Arpaio?
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Not this one.
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He wasn't on this episode.
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I hope he was, I hope he gets burned alive.
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He was vaguely mentioned.
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You know what?
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I want him to be a latrine.
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Like I just want him to be held in a hole while everybody, everybody just does their
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business on top of him.
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And then he drowns, he drowns in it.
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Oh, I want him to die that way as a stickler for language, I must say that would not make
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him a latrine.
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He's inside of the dream, but, um, make his mouth a latrine.
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John Gondola is not from Arizona.
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He just did some training with the Maricopa County Sheriff's department.
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So no, I would say that my person from this episode who is the worst is that Abbott commander
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from 1234 who told the Catholics who are the Cathars, who cares if you kill the right people,
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God will sort them out.
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He's the worst.
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Hey Abbott commander, go fuck yourself.
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Cindy in Kansas, you're on the air.
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Thanks for holding.
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Hello Alex.
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I'm a first time caller.
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I'm a huge fan.
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I love your work.
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I love you.
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