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Andy and Kansas.
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Andy and Kansas.
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Stop it.
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Andy and Kansas.
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Andy and Kansas.
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It's time to pray.
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Andy and Kansas, you're on the air.
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Thanks for holding us.
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Hello, Alex.
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I'm a first-time caller.
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I'm a huge fan.
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I love your room.
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Knowledgefight.
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I love you.
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Hey, everybody.
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Welcome back to Knowledgefight.
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I'm Dan.
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I'm Jordan.
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We're a couple dudes.
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I'd like to sit around, worship at the altar of Selene, and talk a little bit about Alex
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Jones.
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Oh, indeed we are.
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Dan.
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Jordan.
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Dan.
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Jordan.
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Quick question.
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What's up?
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What's your bright spot today, buddy?
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My bright spot, Jordan, is the dreamy, creamy summer continues to march along.
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Indeed.
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And, hey, I got a cheers and jeers for you.
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Okay.
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Yeah, okay.
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And it's to the same people.
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Right.
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Tallenti.
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Oh, no.
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You're coming after Tallenti.
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Uh-huh.
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Oh, you're coming after gelato now.
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This is a different story.
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First of all, I mean, it's tired territory.
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They're impossible to open.
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You have to cut open the fucking container.
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Yes, it is tired territory.
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It's the worst.
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This complaint has been made.
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But I was considering doing a Tallenti week and going over all the flavors.
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Sure.
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And separating the wheat from the chaff.
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But I realized there's some flavors I don't even really want to try.
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Like what?
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I think there's one that's like a birthday cake thing and it's got sprinkles.
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Yeah, you're not a birthday cake guy.
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I don't know.
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I mean, I had that birthday cake ice cream sandwich that was just like frosting flavored
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ice cream.
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Yes, exactly.
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That was disgusting.
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Yeah, that was fondant.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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So I abandoned that.
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But I did try two, and that's the cheers and the jeers.
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Gotcha.
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The cheers is to the salted caramel layered.
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I should say, these are all the layered ones.
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Oh, the parfaits.
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Sort of.
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Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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And so it's got like caramel chocolate cups.
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Got a layer.
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Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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Good.
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Good.
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Strong.
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Good stuff.
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Yeah.
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Then there's a peanut butter one that I thought was going to be great.
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Oh no.
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It's peanut butter.
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You can't go wrong with peanut butter.
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It was quite bad.
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That's amazing.
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Yeah, yeah.
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That's horrific.
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A little bit of it, and I am not going to finish it.
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That's a testament to...
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Wow.
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And look, I do hold Talenti responsible for this, because they made it.
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Yeah.
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But you know, I'm not too mad at you, because some of these other ones are all right, and
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the ones that I don't want to try, like birthday cake, I'm just never going to try.
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Right, right, right, right.
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So anyway, cheers to you, but also a little jeers.
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That's fun.
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That peanut butter one is disappointing.
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I've never had it normally.
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I would have had it, because I'm a big peanut butter person.
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But in ice cream terms, my partner, she's allergic to peanuts, so we never have ice
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cream, ice cream in the house with that type of flavor, so I've never gotten it.
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So that's, it's good to know that I can just skip Talenti's bullshit peanut butter.
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Yeah, just to be clear, this is the peanut butter crunch one.
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Ah, okay.
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Yeah, the layers.
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Blah.
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Boo.
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That's a big jeers.
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Yeah.
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So what's your bright spot?
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My bright spot is yesterday, my family did a classic platter of celebrations, you know?
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Okay.
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It's my brother's birthday, my grandfather's turning 100 in a couple of months.
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Hey, Centennial.
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You know, there's a wedding, my partner and I got married, and it was just, take your
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pick of what you wanted to celebrate, we'll all get together on a day, we'll bang it out,
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and we'll get it done.
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You know?
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And it worked.
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It was good stuff.
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Good to get it all taken care of.
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Just bang it out, you know?
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None of this like, oh, we'll see you on Tuesday, and then on Friday, nope, get it done, we'll
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see you in four months.
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Sweet.
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Yep, I like it.
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A lot of other people probably would rather see their family more often, but I understand
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your situation, and I know where you're coming from.
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Yeah, that's good though.
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Was there cake?
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No.
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Nope.
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Was there birthday cake 20?
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No, there was not.
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There wasn't even, there were, I think there might have been cake, but it was never brought
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out, and all we had around were just candles, because you would assume they were going to
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try and do the hundred candles thing, but I think they just quit on that halfway through
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because there's just a ton of candles around, and no cake anywhere, so I think they just
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bailed on it.
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Disappointing.
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Yeah.
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So, Jordan, today we have an episode to talk about.
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We are going to be going back to the past, we're going to be talking about August 4th,
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2003, and there's some reasons to it.
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Of course, first, Alex is still on his work vacation that he's been on, so he'll probably
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be, we're recording this on Sunday, I would guess he'll be back on his show today, on
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Sunday, but we won't have time to flip that around until Wednesday, so we'll check in
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with him when he's back.
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Simultaneously, I think there's a Project Camelot episode that could be made, but it
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might be too deep a well of crazy to get it done in time, and man, I have lost my interest
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in Russell Brand.
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That is unsurprising.
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I think that there is possibly an episode in covering him, but he bores me.
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Yeah, no, I saw Get Him to the Greek, I'm good, yeah, I had enough.
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I artificially convinced myself, like, ooh, there's something really fascinating here,
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and the more I watched of him, the more I thought, nah, not really.
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No, yeah, do you know what it was?
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He's just famous.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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And I get kind of annoyed, too, because his videos on YouTube, they constantly have clickbait
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ass titles like, so it begins, and stuff like that, just over and over again, like, you're
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a fucking joke.
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Anyway, yeah, it's kind of boring.
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Yeah, terrible.
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But we're back in the past, and, you know, there's some stuff going on.
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I believe it.
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Alex has some feelings about the Iraq War.
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Has bathification, is it rebathification now?
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No update on that.
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No, nothing?
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The bath party is still in control.
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Still in play, gotcha.
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Yeah, according to Alex.
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Gotcha.
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And we'll get down to business on this, but first, let's take a little moment to say hello
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to some new wonks.
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Oh, that's a great idea.
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So first, you won't believe which letter Alex can't pronounce anymore.
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Thank you so much, you are now a policy wonk.
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I'm a policy wonk.
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Thank you very much.
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Thank you.
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Next, Lance Pantsless.
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Thank you so much, you are now a policy wonk.
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I'm a policy wonk.
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Thank you very much.
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Thank you.
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Next is a quick break so that Jordan can take off his t-shirt and nestle himself in my beard.
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No idea what that means, but thank you so much, you are now a policy wonk.
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I'm a policy wonk.
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Thank you very much.
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I can fit, like, a pen or a joint in the past, like when I used to smoke that weed.
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Sure, sure, sure, sure.
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Yeah, you would hide it.
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I could fit that so I could hide a joint in my beard and sneak it into a concert or something.
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But a human?
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That's too much.
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No, no, no.
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Your chest hair, on the other hand.
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I could bury myself in that in a moment.
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There's no doubt.
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Heartbeat.
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Next, a little dabby for me.
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Wait, why are we at the Capitol?
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Thank you so much, you are now a policy wonk.
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I'm a policy wonk.
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Thank you very much.
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Thank you.
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And Candy and Anzus, thank you so much, you are now a policy wonk.
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I'm a policy wonk.
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Thank you very much.
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And we got a couple of technocrats here, Jordan.
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So first, Henry Not Hank, but be that as it may, I declare myself the 74th Sorcha Fall.
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Thank you so much, you are now a technocrat.
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And thank you, Dan and Jordan.
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That's it.
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That's the name.
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Thank you.
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You are now a technocrat.
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I'm a policy wonk.
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I have risen above my enemies.
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I might quit tomorrow, actually.
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I'm just going to take a little break, you know.
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A little breaky for me.
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And then we're going to come back and I'm going to start the show over.
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But I'm the devil, I'm not going to be taking all this, blah, blah, blah.
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Fuck you.
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Fuck you.
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I got plenty of words for you, but at the end of the day, fuck you and your new world
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order and fuck the horse you rode in on and all your shit.
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Maybe today should be my last broadcast.
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Maybe I'll just be gone a month, maybe five years.
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Maybe I'll walk out of here tomorrow and you never see me again.
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That's really what I want to do.
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I never want to come back here again.
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I apologize to the crew and the listeners yesterday that I was legitimately having breakdowns
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on here.
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I'll be better tomorrow.
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He's not.
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Oh.
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Even in the past.
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Even in the past.
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I mean, that's not true.
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Compared to the present, he's somewhat better.
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Sure.
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But there's a couple of things actually that get revealed over the course of this episode
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that are like, man, you've had some really fucked up positions for a pretty long time
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and you've just done a pretty good job of obscuring some of them, let's say.
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So we start off here on August 4th and Alex is talking about a, what do you know, a gun
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bill.
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No!
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Certainly this is going to be one of the most serious situations ever.
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I'm going to cover something that I went over several years ago.
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I covered this three years ago on air during the election and I informed the listeners
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that I would not be voting for Al Gore, then I would not be voting for George W. Bush because
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they are carbon copies of each other when it comes to their actions, not their rhetoric.
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And people had trouble believing the policy of Bush that he would reauthorize the assault
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weapons ban and expand it.
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He told you what he was going to do to you.
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And I had a lot of callers who denied it at the time as I would read excerpts of Lord
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Bush's speeches here on the air.
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Well, I have the NRA fact sheet here and it's NRAILA.org, that's the NRA legislative alert
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website, and it's most sweeping gun ban ever introduced in Congress, Clinton gun ban, reenactment
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ban, bans millions more, and right here, bans all, that's their quote, all semiautomatic
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shotguns and they even have a link to the subsection, banning, I mean, shotguns that
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hold two rounds, folks, everything, we're talking everything.
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And I try to explain this to people and I have been shouted down on radio shows by people
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that call in and say, I'm a liar.
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So just keep living in your fruitcake land.
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This bill has a very good chance of passing and I'm sick and tired of the total denial
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by you Pete.
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I mean, it makes me sick and I'm not talking about our general listeners, but the types
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that are driving along in their cars, listening to this show for the first time.
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So I was thinking about 2000 and he's not going to support Gore or Bush.
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Nope.
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So like, obviously he's not going to support Bill Bradley who was in the primaries against
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Gore.
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That wasn't happening.
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So, but like he's not going to support McCain because McCain was against Bush in the primaries.
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So Alan Keyes was the other candidate, I think, in the GOP primaries.
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I know that Alan Keyes and him have come together on some things.
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And Alan Keyes has co-hosted guest hosted info wars in the past year, but I don't know.
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That is the worst part of 2000 now that I remember it is we didn't have that Republican
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primary cavalcade debate stage, you know, where we had 16 different Republicans saying
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dumb nonsense at each other back then it was just three or four guys and they were all
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stupid the same way.
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Well, you had a number of folks, but they withdrew like before the primary started.
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You had a bunch of people with like exploratory campaigns and shit, but yeah, it was just
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Pat Buchanan was trying to run again.
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Yes, absolutely.
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Of course he was.
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Donald Trump explored the idea of running.
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Yes, exactly.
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Yeah, we just had McCain, Keyes, and Bush.
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Yeah, it functions a little bit better, I think, than a hundred people on stage.
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Yeah, but it's less entertaining.
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Sure.
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It's more informative, I guess.
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That might not be what we're going for.
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Oh yeah, that's right.
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So this bill that Alex is talking about, this gun bill, it did not pass as has been the
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case with literally any proposed gun bill that's come up that Alex has insisted is about
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to pass and would lead to door to door confiscations of everything all the way up to a child's
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pop gun.
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One of the great consistent trends you notice when you go back and listen to Infowars from
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the past is that every proposed gun bill is apocalyptic, and all of them are set to be
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passed any day now.
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It's ridiculous as an act, and it's weird that it never gets old for the listeners.
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Bush never did any of the stuff Alex is claiming he was going to.
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He let the Clinton assault weapons ban lapse.
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He didn't champion any other gun legislation.
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But it does kind of make sense for Alex to think that he might, primarily because he's
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clearly just getting talking points from the NRA's press releases.
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And in the interest of total fairness, as recently as May 2003, the White House had
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commented that Bush supported extending the 1994 gun bill.
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The thing is that in the real world, Bush can't just do that on his own.
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It would need to be passed by Congress.
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Alex subscribes to a very narrow strongman theory about the world, and thus, because
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Bush said he's in favor of one thing, it must be the case that it's going to come to pass.
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After the 2002 midterms, there was a 51-49 Republican majority in the Senate, and a 229-204
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Republican majority in the House.
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It was safe for Bush to signal support to the idea of gun control in order to sway independence
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to the right, while being entirely comfortable that no gun bill had any chance of making
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it through either house of Congress.
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If the governmental equivalent of having your cake and eating it too basically is where
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he was going.
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Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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Absolutely I support this thing that I know is impossible to happen, and I will never
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do anything to fix that.
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I will sign this thing that is essentially impossible.
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Yeah, no kidding.
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Sweet.
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I will sign this unicorn's face the moment you put it in front of me, I promise you that!
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In the 2000 GOP primary, Bush's whole brand was meant to be compassionate conservatism,
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and part of that is not having this hardline gun absolutism.
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You would think.
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An element of that strategy was probably informed by the fact that he was running against John
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McCain, who had a far more outsider character than Bush and appealed to a ton more voters
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that were closer to the center.
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And he had military history, so you can't fight him on that front.
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There was no way Bush could win the election just off the support of the fringe right,
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so he tempered his conservatism as a strategy.
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One might argue that he had some actual inclination toward reforming gun laws, but that seems
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like bullshit to me.
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The NRA loudly endorsed Bush in 2004, and they actually strategically withheld their
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endorsement of him in the 2000 election because according to the New York Times, quote, "...polls
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suggest that the NRA, while popular in many Republican areas, is viewed negatively by
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large numbers of independent suburban voters whom Mr. Bush is trying to court, particularly
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women."
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That was a sincere concern in 2000 for a new candidate, but much less so by 2004 when Bush
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was the incumbent.
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While they were keeping their love of Bush quiet on the surface, they also, the NRA had
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a vice president who said that if Bush got elected, quote, "...we'll have a president
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where we work out of their office."
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So this notion is a load of bullshit, but Alex is taking at face value some, like, basically
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political maneuvering that Bush is doing in terms of placing himself in a place where
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independent voters could be drawn towards him, and there's no actual consequence to
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the...
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Which, though, is exactly what Bush would want him to do.
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That's the strategy.
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Yes.
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Make Alex look like the conservative nutbag compared to your compassionate conservative
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nutbaggery, if you will.
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And by rallying the, like, really far right in a certain direction, you kind of make sure
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that the status quo remains the same, and that gun bill never makes it to your desk
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that you never have to sign.
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And let's be real with you, those right-wing lunatics, if they vote, they're still gonna
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vote for him.
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Of course!
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Are they gonna vote for Bill Bradley?
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Are they gonna vote for somebody else?
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Get the fuck out of here.
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Yeah, they're not gonna vote for Al Gore.
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Yeah.
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You can pencil them in whenever you want.
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Ron Paul wasn't a factor in that election.
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So there's more talk of this gun bill.
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It's basically one of his primary points.
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Coming up later in this hour, I'm gonna engage in liberal socialist evil on the air.
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I'm going to warn you about the most sweeping gun control ever.
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Again, that's not conservative.
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That's bad.
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According to Ann Coulter and others who've been on this show, a real conservative talks
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about mindless issues and how stupid Hillary is all day while voting with Hillary for gun
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control.
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While voting for Hillary to invade sovereign, innocent countries.
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You have to vote with Hillary, almost identical record, and then walk around talking about
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how conservative you are, but really be conservative.
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If you're actually pro-gun or pro-sovereignty or against open borders, that is very, very
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bad.
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And we're in the very, very bad camp here on this show.
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And you know, I'm learning how to be a good neocon here, and I'm apologizing that I actually
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don't want to turn my shotguns in.
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The most sweeping gun ban ever introduced in Congress, Clinton gun ban, reenactment
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ban, millions more guns.
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H.R. 2038 introduced Representative Carolyn McCarthy is not just reenact or reauthorize
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the 94 Clinton ban, but the so-called Sullivan ban law.
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It bans millions more guns, and it begins the backdoor registration of guns.
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So this bill, H.R. 2038, was introduced on May 8th, 2003, three months prior to this
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episode that we're listening to right now.
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That was my birthday.
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Hey, happy birthday.
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Yeah, thanks.
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It saddened committee, and literally nothing had been done to move it any closer to passing
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since your birthday.
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That's been a lot like my birthday.
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On September 28th, 2004, a motion was filed titled House Resolution 769, which sought
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to bring H.R. 2038 to immediate consideration on the House floor.
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These sorts of discharge petitions require 218 signatures to pass.
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How many do you think this one got?
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30.
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72.
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Ooh.
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It's a little shy of making the mark.
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Yeah, just a short bit.
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At the point Alex is on air pretending he's covering a news story about a bill that's
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a real threat to gun ownership, he should have every reason to know that this is a dead
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bill already.
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This isn't news or analysis, it's manufacturing a threat to scare your audience into thinking
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someone's on their way to take your guns, relying entirely on, I guess, a press release
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from the NRA.
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Yeah.
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Great.
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Yeah.
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It's meaningless.
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One weird thing about going back into the past so often is remembering that at that
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time period, I did not have the tools necessary to understand how stupid and transparent all
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of this really was.
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You know?
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Like there were so many things back in 2003.
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I think I was in such a conservative family after 9-11, I was one of those people who's
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like, yeah, 94% of people should support Bush.
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It's a good thing I was 12 at the time.
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Sure.
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That's better.
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Could, yeah.
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Can't really affect the political process that much.
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Can't really do much there.
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Yeah.
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No, no, no.
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Yeah.
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I mean, I think, you know, I look back and there was a period, I wasn't even in like
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a really conservative family, but I would listen to conservative talk radio a lot.
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And you know, with the passive nature of listening to it.
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Yeah.
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I thought like Sean Hannity had a legitimate point.
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Sure.
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He had something to say.
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Maybe not that he was right, but like he means what he's saying.
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Absolutely.
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Or I'd listen to Neil Bortz and I'd be like, yeah, this guy, he's got some thoughts.
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Right.
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I wouldn't immediately say, oh, these people are lying to make millions of dollars and
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it's that easy.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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Yep.
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Yep.
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It's a different time.
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It is almost like a cartoon.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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So Alex has some big news about personnel in the white house, by the way, uh, the secretary
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of state Colin Powell is a globalist and is bad enough, but he's on the way out.
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By the way, they're going to put another Trotskyite directly in that position.
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Uh, Powell was the only one that didn't have a Trotskyite background though.
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He has a, a, a black ops background, uh, in Vietnam and in, uh, the Iran Contra scam and
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activities.
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Oh, before I get a hundred emails that I'm racist, a black op is a secret government
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program.
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All right.
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All right.
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What the hell?
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All right.
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Calm it down.
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So Colin Powell wasn't really on his way out.
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He stayed in office until 2005 when he resigned possibly at Bush's request at the start of
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Bush's second term, right?
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He was replaced by Condoleezza Rice, who Alex hasn't mentioned up till this point and I
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don't know if he thinks she's a Trotskyite.
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Also it's weird to imagine that Alex's listeners are the kind of people who could be so sensitive
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to covert racism and simultaneously unaware of what black ops are to the point where he
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could sincerely think anyone would send him an email about that.
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Yeah.
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He should send him an email about his obsession with the mysterious secret Trotskyites and
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how that sounds suspiciously antisemitic though.
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I think maybe, maybe that deserves an email.
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Yeah.
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It would be, it would have been very interesting if Colin Powell was a Trotskyite.
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That would have, that would have changed things a great deal as opposed to being a lying war
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criminal.
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That does change things.
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Yes.
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Yeah.
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Yep.
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So look, man, there's thought police out there and they're going to be mad that Alex
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isn't black ops.
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Now listen to this clip because this is all in Alex's head.
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Yeah.
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It's fascinating.
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Okay.
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So I got, I've got to watch it here that I don't commit thought crimes on the air.
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Got to be very careful in this politically correct world.
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I could be arrested for what I just said.
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Talking about Colin Powell involved in secret government budget programs here.
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We'll say it like that.
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I was talking about more like I was last week when Mr. Poindexter, the convicted felon, the
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old white guy, and I said was involved in big black ops and black budgets.
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I can say that about Poindexter, but I better be careful about saying Colin Powell is involved
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in black budget ops because there's no pun intended.
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Okay.
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But that's the insanity of the thought police in America today folks.
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This is all in Alex's head.
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He's getting mad about imaginary people having a completely absurd response to something
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he's saying and portraying himself as the victim of these imaginary people somehow.
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And here's the reason he's doing this.
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Alex wants to inoculate his audience to the possibility of them hearing people accuse
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him of being a racist.
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A lot of his content is flagrantly racist and he understands that on some level.
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So he knows that it's inevitable that people who listen to his show will end up hearing
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things from other people who say he's racist.
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That is racist as shit.
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I agree with you.
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Yeah.
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The goal here is for Alex to take a completely obvious example of something that isn't racist
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but includes a trigger word that he can pretend someone will call him racist for saying, in
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this case, black.
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He pretends that people will say he's racist for saying things like black ops.
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So if a listener hears someone accuse Alex of saying something racist, their immediate
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response will be like, oh, sure.
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Like how he said that everybody said he was a racist because he used the word black ops.
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Sure.
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Yeah.
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It gives them that kind of a defensive posture.
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I mean, it really is exactly like how they think vaccinations work where it's like, okay,
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I'll take a little bit of inert false racism and kind of make you immune to that.
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And so then whenever the real racism hits, you're like, ah, I'm already prepared.
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Yeah.
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100%.
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Yeah.
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But I think it's more for them to be able to withstand criticism from their friends
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and family who might be like, hey, that stuff you're listening to is pretty fucked up.
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Hey, you remember all the things that he didn't say about Jews because he uses the word globalists?
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Imagine he said the word Jews.
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Yeah, exactly.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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Come on, buddy.
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Yeah.
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Put two and two together.
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So Alex has a big news source and this is the other thing that takes up, I would say,
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a large part of his content within the show.
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Sure.
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You have the gun bill that is not to be, but is the biggest threat in the world.
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Right.
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So you have a bunch of phone calls and then you have this story.
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Okay.
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But jumping back into the news, thinking outside the US and it's a lengthy Washington Post
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article that happily announces that our Supreme court now is getting its walking orders from
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the European criminal court.
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This is not a lengthy article.
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It would be less than a page of text, but it might appear longer because Alex just prints
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out websites and the formatting there could make it look larger and longer.
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He hasn't read it, so he has no idea how long it is or what it's even about.
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This is an op-ed about how Supreme court justices have appealed to legal ideas from other countries
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or legal bodies and their decisions, notably about, you know, one of the things they bring
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up is the recent case Lawrence versus Texas, which invalidated sodomy laws in the country
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and made same sex relationships legal across the board.
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That happened in 2003 and if Alex and his buddies have their way, it will be overturned.
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I mean, it's on the Texas GOP's statement of intent, like we're going to criminalize
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homosexuality again.
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Lawrence versus Texas, Texas is going to take that back to court.
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Yeah.
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Oh man.
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It's so crazy.
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They've got like a six, three majority in the Supreme.
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Oh man.
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That's crazy.
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Yeah.
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And it is wild to just, you know, really wrestle with the reality that that decision was in
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2003.
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Yeah.
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20 years ago.
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That's not far back enough.
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Yeah.
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That's very recent.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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No.
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In a year that begins with a two.
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Yeah.
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They could break into your home if you were gay and then arrest you for just being there.
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That law would not be impossible to make in the U S wild.
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Yep.
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Anyway, justice Kennedy's opinion included a point that quote, the court's past approval
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of sodomy bans was out of step with the law in other Western democracies and made mention
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of the European court of human rights.
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This is not the same as the Supreme court being told what to do by other international
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bodies, but it's a fascinating and really depressing thing to think about.
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This op-ed makes the point that traditionally the United States has seen itself as the innovator
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in the world in terms of freedom and human rights, but that the country quote now has
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much to learn from the rapidly developing constitutional traditions of other democracies
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who've abdicated our place as Alex thinks that's the same thing as getting your marching
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orders.
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No.
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Yeah.
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And these examples that they use in this article are not like, Hey, the bedrock of my argument
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relies on a precedent set by this European court.
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It's just pointing that out in the opinions of like, Hey, also everybody else doesn't
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do this crazy nonsense.
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It would be nice if there were more Supreme court opinions that just boil down to we're
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a bunch of barbarians, aren't we?
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This is fucked.
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Conservative legal scholars are largely opposed to even citing international opinion in terms
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of the Supreme court, but it's important to recognize that this isn't the first time it's
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happened nor is it really that groundbreaking.
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Conservatives like Alex hate it though.
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Legal experts in this article aren't thrilled with the thing quote, when the court starts
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taking things like that into account, it revealed itself as more interested in making policy
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than interpreting the fixed texts of the constitution or statutes.
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That was a quote from John Yoo, the guy who worked in Bush's attorney general's office,
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who's most remembered for his memos that he wrote justifying torture in the war on terror.
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So Alex is in league with that legal mind.
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Well that's why he didn't take it to the Supreme court because they would have tried to make
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policy against, oh it's terrible.
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Big picture, this is an editorial that someone wrote about an interesting thing to think
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about as it relates to the Supreme court.
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It's not hard news and it doesn't say anything or prove anything about the court being under
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the control of some foreign body.
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Alex doesn't read any of the stuff he covers though, so he's just reading the headline
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and skimming the first few sentences and making up the rest to suit his purposes as always.
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But it also goes wrong because he tries to read the article on air and unfortunately
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it doesn't really go his way.
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So here he is beginning to read that article.
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Thinking outside the US, the Supreme Court is going global and not just in the sense
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that several of its justices have embarked on their annual summer voyages to European
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destinations.
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See how it's cute and funny.
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Yeah it's cutely written because it's an op-ed.
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It's written by someone who's trying to engage the reader in something less formal than news
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copy.
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Yeah.
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I sincerely don't think Alex knows the difference between opinion and fact-based reporting.
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He does not.
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In 2003 or even in the present day, I think he still doesn't know.
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He's legitimately trying to pretend that this op-ed in the Washington Post is announcing
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that the Supreme Court is under the control of international bodies.
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That's one of his top stories and this is his only source.
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Yeah.
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That's wild.
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Well what they're doing is they're soft launching it through op-eds.
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I mean if he made that argument I would say that's stupid.
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Right.
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But at least...
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But then it would be sort of honest about the point he was trying to make.
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Right.
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It would just come off as like, are you fucking serious?
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Insane?
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Insane?
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Yeah.
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So unfortunately he keeps reading.
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Oh no.
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And the presentation that he's trying to make is that this is announcing that our courts
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are under the control of like the European court of human rights and what have you.
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But because he keeps reading, he gets to the point where they talk about how a bunch of
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people aren't into this.
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Right.
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Right.
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That doesn't go well.
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Well here's the thing.
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He just ignores it.
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Oh.
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He just pretends that he's not reading stuff that's critical of the Supreme Court considering
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European thought.
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That is powerful stuff.
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Yes.
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I did not know you could just do that.
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I've got you about 50, 60 articles here in front of me and here's just one of them.
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And it's out of the Washington Post and they admit that the court is following the edicts
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of several European courts and several global courts that have been set up and at the end
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of the article they say, oh well, it's because the justices travel more than they used to
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and every summer they all go visit with their friends in Europe.
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Yeah, folks.
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The Chief Justice and others have gone to Bilderberg group meetings and they're getting
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their walking orders and the article that I'm reading from, and I wish I had a computer
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to screen up on it because I printed it in the non-printer friendly version.
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It's hard to read here.
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But it says conservative legal scholars who regard the court's use of international legal
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sources as an intellectually amorphous endeavor that would subject citizens to the decisions
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of foreign legal institutions.
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When the court starts taking these into account, it reveals itself as more interested in making
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policy than interpreting the constitution of the statutes to John C.U., a former Bush
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administration advisor in international law who teaches law at the University of California
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at Berkeley.
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And it goes on to say, citing his words from the court's provision in previous death penalty
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case, they wrote that they must never forget that it was the constitution of the United
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States of America that we are expounding on where there is not first a subtle consensus
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among our own people or of other nations, however enlightened the justices of this country
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may think they can be, they cannot oppose that upon the American people through the
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constitution.
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And it's a bunch of other hyperbole that it's a sport of globalism and getting rid of our
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sovereignty.
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See how they just calmly report and calmly announce in the Washington Post and USA Today
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and all their legal speak that, oh yeah, we're changing our jurisprudence.
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We're going to follow the European model.
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It's wild.
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That's not fair.
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He completely ignores two minutes of him reading this article that's critical.
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And that's stuff where he's like, and then it's a bunch of hyperbole and they say it's
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about globalism and taking our sovereignty.
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That's not in the fucking article.
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It's legitimately unthinkable to me that someone could get away with being this transparently
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bad and doing what they're pretending to do.
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And people just are like, yeah, yeah.
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This guy's making sense.
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If you listen to the words he's saying, this is convoluted.
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That is textbook abuse.
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That is a literal person telling you something that just happened is not what you saw.
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That's the definition of gaslighting.
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It doesn't get more of that.
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This article is announcing that the court is under the control of the Europeans, but
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also I just read two minutes of conversation about-
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Conservative legal scholars who hate it.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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The people who are making the argument that I was literally making about this article
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are making it in the article.
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Right.
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And there's a whole bunch of that article too about how Scalia's really against this.
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People even citing European things as a reference.
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Sure.
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Yeah.
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This is stupid.
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It is absurd to live in a world with the internet and then think that the Supreme Court is just
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going to never look out at other legal scholars anywhere else.
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That's ridiculous.
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So we get to Alex talking about death penalty stuff, and this is one of the questions that
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I've always had with Alex that I think is like, it's weird.
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His position on the death penalty has always been strange to me because at times he seemed
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to be against it, which makes sense based on his sort of political and philosophical
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beliefs.
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But then other times he's been in favor of it, and that's been confusing to me.
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Right.
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And in this clip he kind of spells out what his thoughts are, and they're disappointing.
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Let's break down what's happening.
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Three years ago they executed two German immigrants, illegal aliens by the way, who went into a
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bank and shot and killed three people.
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And there were hundreds of witnesses in and out of the bank.
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It was a busy bank.
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They were caught on the surveillance tapes doing it.
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The police surrounded the bank.
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They gave up, and they were given the death penalty out in Arizona, and they were executed,
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which is a good thing.
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I mean, when you've got somebody caught red-handed with witnesses and video of it, I think there
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needs to be a high standard for the death penalty, but when you've got that much evidence
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executed.
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I do not believe you should be able to go on it off DNA or FBI crime labs or government
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witnesses.
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It has to be individual witnesses because the government is totally corrupt.
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But I am for the death penalty if you have multiple independent witnesses added with
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videotape and then admissions.
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But again, side issue.
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That's a really illuminating clip because it shows clearly how Alex's position on the
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death penalty isn't based on any moral principle.
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It's only really, the objection that he has is that he doesn't trust the government with
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producing evidence.
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It's not a moral objection, it's strictly logistical, which doesn't make a whole lot
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of sense and it makes me think that Alex hasn't thought through this position very much.
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For him it should be a primary concern, whether or not the state has the ability to take a
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person's life for committing a crime.
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Why would you want to vest that kind of power in the hands of the very thing you consider
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your sworn enemy and you think has been taken over by globalists?
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I could see Alex being in favor of the sheriff getting a posse together and taking out a
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suspected murderer before they're even arrested, but the position he's laying out on air is
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at odds with how he presents himself and his school of thought.
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The things that he says would meet his high standard of proof, which would justify the
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death penalty, aren't concrete pieces of evidence.
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Eyewitness accounts are notoriously inaccurate, so basing an execution on that seems pretty
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unwise.
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Absurd.
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Alex should think that confessions are often suspect because they can be coerced out of
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people by overzealous police, so you wouldn't want to necessarily use that solely as the
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basis for an execution.
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That is not concrete information.
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Videotape is all good and well, but often inconclusive in terms of being able to identify
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people.
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You know, it's probably fairly rare that that's going to be solely what you're able to convict
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somebody on.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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Alex supports the death penalty in principle because he believes in violent retribution.
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What he's laying out here is just a list of types of evidence he looks for to make peace
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with it inside his head.
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Yeah.
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It's ridiculous.
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He thinks the people who do things should have violent consequences.
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Yeah.
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I mean, his, his like, I don't trust the government to do this.
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However, I do think that a judge and a courtroom should decide what, yeah, what are you fucking
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talking about?
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Right.
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And it's this dumb idea that I think a lot of people in Alex's milieu have.
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And I honestly think that maybe there's even a little bit of this mentality on the left
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that, you know, maybe isn't helpful, but it's that like the government is somehow a thing
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like the government is people.
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It's people who work in the government.
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It's not like if you have a witness who is, I don't know, works for the IRS or something,
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there's still a person.
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Right.
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No, they're the government.
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Right.
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They're there as a gut.
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See, what happens is they don't capitalize their names.
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Okay.
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So then they're beholden to the government because of $600,000 in liens placed upon their
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name at birth.
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I buy it.
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It's a maritime law.
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This all makes sense.
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It all makes sense.
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Yeah.
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It's all coming together.
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The government bank robbers is being a little bit misreported by Alex here.
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This is about brothers Walter and Carl LeGrand, who were executed by the state of Arizona
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in 1999 for a bank robbery that went wrong back in 1982.
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They weren't illegal immigrants the way Alex is trying to present the situation.
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They were born in Germany, but their mother had fled to the United States when one brother
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was four and the other was five.
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They had essentially lived here their whole lives, but they had never become US citizens.
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The brothers were robbers by trade and the bank robbery had happened just after they'd
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been released from prison for robbing a string of supermarkets in Tucson the year before.
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They were trying to rob the Valley National Bank in Marana, Arizona, and Alex has almost
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all of the details of this crime wrong.
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They showed up before the bank opened and there were no customers there.
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They didn't shoot anyone because the gun they had was a toy gun.
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They did murder the bank manager when he couldn't open the safe because he only had half of
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the combination, but they did that by stabbing him 24 times with a letter opener.
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God damn!
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They attempted to kill the other person who was in the bank at the time, too, who was
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an employee named Dawn Lopez, but they only managed to stab her a few times, which proved
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to be not lethal but bad.
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The police didn't surround the bank and then the brothers gave up.
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Another employee showed up and thought that they saw something suspicious going on inside,
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so this other employee, she wrote down the license plate numbers of cars outside.
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When the LeGrands left and the police showed up, she gave them the plate numbers and the
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cops tracked the brothers down that way.
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Alex has basically taken a real life case and transposed all of the elements of bank
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robbery movies onto it, and that's what he's accepted as truth of what happened.
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It's nonsense.
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Yeah, he believes every bank robbery is the opening five minutes of the dark night.
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Everybody get down!
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Yeah, it's the Joker showing up, everybody in the gang murders each other at the end.
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And then these Germans drove a school bus?
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Absolutely, yeah, absolutely!
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100%!
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They drove it out and even though there was dust on it, they got into a line of school
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buses and nobody was the wiser!
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I would rather if Alex just relayed the plot of The Inside Man.
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That would be way better!
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Because that's confusing.
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I'd love to see him try and explain that plot.
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God, it'd be wild.
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Anyway, this case is actually really, really interesting, and the way it played out in
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the courts is something that's worth talking about.
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And it intersects with Alex's ideology.
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But before we talk more about that, let's see if he understands what happened.
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Okay.
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Because he definitely doesn't understand the crime.
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Okay.
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But then what ended up happening in relationship to their death penalty.
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Okay.
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Let's see, here's how Alex explains it.
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Okay.
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They gave him the death penalty, and the court was about to hear the case, well, the Supreme
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Court, well, the state went ahead and executed him.
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Because the Supreme Court didn't agree to hear the case first off.
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Well, Ginsburg then said, oh, this is horrible, in the future, we will follow the edicts of
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the International Criminal Court and the World Court of Human Rights and all these other
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kangaroo institutions that have been set up.
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So that's what Alex, that's how he explains it.
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Okay, so Ginsburg, after this case, was like...
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Allen.
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Well, naturally.
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I saw the best minds of my German generation executed for a bank robbery.
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Right.
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Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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So then Justice Ginsburg goes, well, Constitution's out the window, we gotta follow the EU.
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We whiffed on this one.
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Oh, bummer.
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Let's go ahead and...
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Let's just steal the Constitution.
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So here's what actually happened.
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On the day that Walter LeGrand was set to be executed, Germany filed with the International
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Court of Justice, seeking a provisional court order so the US would pause the execution.
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The ICJ did give this provisional order.
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From there, the Supreme Court decided that they didn't have any jurisdiction to hear
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this provisional order, since it was the state of Arizona that was carrying out the execution,
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and the federal courts can't hear lawsuits brought by another country against a state.
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Right.
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A bunch of arguments flew around about whether or not executing the men would violate the
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Vienna Convention, but ultimately, all of the US parties seemed to take the position
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that international law wasn't legally binding, and that the actions that were being taken
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weren't actually violations of this convention.
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Yeah.
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Yeah, yeah.
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Then in 2001, the ICJ ruled that the US had violated rules about consular relations, because
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the LeGrand brothers were never told by Arizona law enforcement that as German nationals,
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they had the right to contact the German consulate for help.
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Yeah.
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And they weren't informed of that ability to-
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Oh, well, bummer.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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Though they did eventually contact the consulate, the delay was argued to have hindered Germany's
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ability to protect its nationals' interests.
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Yeah.
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Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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It wasn't a case of Ginsburg just saying that we need to bow down to international court
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edicts.
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It was a situation where the ICJ determined that the US had violated an agreement that
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we entered into willingly with other governments.
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We signed it.
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Yeah.
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Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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It's a bit more complicated than the presentation that Alex is making.
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Right.
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And obviously, because he doesn't know what happened.
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No, of course not.
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That is-
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He's just kicking and screaming about the idea that people respect the opinions of other
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countries.
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Yeah, yeah.
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Especially when it's their nationals' citizens.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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And Germany was probably like, don't kill people.
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I mean, we don't do it.
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Yeah.
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I think there is an interesting sort of discussion to be had about the German nationals' aspect
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of it, because they had lived in the United States essentially their whole lives.
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Sure, sure.
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So there is a technicality there.
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Right.
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But I don't know how meaningful it is in terms of refuting the circumstances of the case.
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Well, in terms of change and eventually how much people care, it was very little.
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I think.
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Well, I mean, this is two years later and Alex has essentially forgot all the details
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of the crime.
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Right.
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All the details of the court thing that happened.
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It's just, A, globalism.
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Right.
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Ooh.
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Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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Very dumb.
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That's such a weird situation to have to have like six courts just argue made up nonsense
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back and forth at each other.
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Like no, no, no, we can't do this because of some dude in 1700s.
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Yeah.
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Oh my God.
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Arizona's going to kill this guy.
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Arizona's going to kill this guy anyway.
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Oh my God.
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That's so stupid.
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Oh man.
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See, 150 years ago, we, yeah, sorry.
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So Alex believes that all these European courts and all this stuff, it's all kangaroo courts.
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You know where that term comes from?
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Australia?
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Alex knows.
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Oh yeah?
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They are kangaroo in every way.
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And where do we get the term kangaroo court?
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I got this great book.
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It's a...
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Oh boy.
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It's why do we say it?
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You can look up any saying, about 150 years ago, they would execute you for any reason
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in Australia and the British courts would, they would have juries under the Magna Carta,
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but they would go out and appoint the juries that would always be the police and government
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officials on the jury.
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And so the people of the island nation began to say it'd be better if they just had a group
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of kangaroos.
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It's a kangaroo court and anyway, side issue.
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Side issue?
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I love that book.
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It's over there on the bookshelf in the studio.
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Why do we say it?
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It's interesting.
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He loves that book.
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Yes.
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I've read all of Carol Quigley's, but I really get, really get excited for toilet reading.
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Yeah.
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That's what I'm here for, baby.
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Man, that's exactly how I could characterize this book.
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It's a bathroom reader.
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Yeah, this is a bathroom book.
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This is not where kangaroo court comes from.
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It's an expression with a definite American origin, although the kangaroo itself is deeply
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associated with Australia.
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Well, sure.
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Sure.
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So even you, when you were just randomly guessing, there's Australia.
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Yeah, why not?
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Yeah, throw it out there.
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So there's a number of theories about how this term came to popularity, but none of
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them are close to what Alex is saying.
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Sure.
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One is that in the early 1800s, there were corrupt courts in an area of Vicksburg, Mississippi
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called the kangaroo district.
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And so the name stuck from that.
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That's one of the theories that people believe.
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Okay.
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Another theory is that the term comes from the characterization of these courts jumping
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to conclusions, much like a kangaroo would.
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Sure, sure.
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The third idea has to do with these, there were amateur trials that were being held in
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the California gold rush.
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Yeah, like triple A trials.
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Sure.
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Yeah, they weren't ready for the big leagues yet.
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Yeah.
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These were primarily for prosecuting claim jumpers.
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Okay.
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So there was the association of kangaroos again.
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Sure, sure, sure.
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There.
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But the point is that Alex is taking his history from a bathroom reader.
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So none of these involve the fucking Magna Carta.
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That's what we're saying here.
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Also, Alex shouldn't care about the Magna Carta because why is he appealing to a non-American
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constitution document?
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He might as well be on arrow pining about how 13 states make it illegal to ride a horse
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on Tuesday or whatever dumb shit's in those books.
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He's a fucking child.
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Yep, yep.
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Did you know that in this county you're unable to yell after 10 PM according to state statute?
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And you're like, what, what, who, fuck off, who cares?
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Exactly.
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Fuck you.
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Yep.
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That's the level of like source he's relying on for history lessons.
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Yeah, okay.
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So Alex takes some calls and one of them, this guy, he suggests that it's normal to
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feel helpless in the circumstances in the world that are going on, but there's one way
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to fight it.
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And that's by promoting Alex.
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There we go.
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And then we get a little bit of a cameo by a very special animal.
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Well, I tell you, until this happens, I'm going to continue going to website or rather
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going to chat rooms and pasting Infowars and Prison Planet and handing out, you know, your
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website to people who I meet in work and elsewhere.
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But you know, I guess that's really what we can do.
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Sounds like you've got a neocon in the background, Joe.
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That's my power.
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Actually, I guess it is a neocon, yeah.
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Haha.
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Neocon parrot.
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That's funny.
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I appreciate that.
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That's not very funny.
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No, no, but it would be a lower tier SNL sketch for sure.
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I guess the joke is that neocons just repeat things.
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I would assume so.
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I guess that's probably what they're going for.
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It's not the first time that the parrot interrupted the call, by the way.
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Oh, okay.
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So, oh boy.
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Yeah.
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Okay.
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And it's just this sort of consistent thing where the solution is always, promote Alex.
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Right.
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Always.
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The ways that you can fight off despair or like really stick it to the globalists or
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do things that bring more people into my revenue stream.
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Yeah.
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Does that make them feel like they're doing what, I mean, it must, it must give them that
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feeling of, I am doing something to fight the globalists.
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And it's not just like me being part of a multi-level marketing thing, basically.
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It's not me propping up a propagandist.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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And I think the reason is because Alex does all that stuff about how like, Hey, my movies
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have a 90% success rate in waking people up.
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They must think like, well, the wider we get this message, the more people will wake up
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as opposed to the more people will give Alex ratings.
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Yeah.
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Yep.
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Um, so Alex gets another call from a guy who is anti NRA now.
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Nice to know that these guys were for us, but now it's like, eh, we'll hang you out
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to dry.
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Like piece of dirty laundry.
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I mean, I love America now.
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I mean, there's better groups out there who are willing to fight for our gun rights.
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And you're one of them who's, who's, who's greater than all of us showing us what's going
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on.
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And a lot of people are really blind to what's going on too.
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I mean, it's like, well, I'm not going to tell you something, Mark, I'm not greater
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than, than the folks out there.
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A lot of people are smarter than I am.
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They're more articulate and more educated and they're not being the leaders they should
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be.
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We need them stand up and fight this thing.
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But this color really illustrates how helpless Alex has made his listeners.
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Everything Alex has covered so far in this episode is completely fake and based on nothing.
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His whole riff about the courts being told what to do by foreign international legal
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bodies is a load of shit based on him making things up about an op-ed that he didn't read.
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The entire fear about gun confiscation is based on a bill that's been, it's languishing
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in committee for the last three months with no actions taken.
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He's done nothing but misinform and yet this caller experiences what Alex is doing as informing
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him.
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It's really a testament to the power of branding.
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What's really remarkable though is that this caller is saying that Alex is a hero and informing
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the people about threats to their gun rights and that the NRA is not a good organization
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for gun defense.
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But if you've been paying attention, the source Alex is basing his entire coverage of Bush
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intending to re-up the assault weapons ban, he's basing it on a legislative action press
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release put out by the NRA.
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He's relying on them for talking points and yet he and his callers are pretending like
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they're not doing anything to support gun rights.
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It's wild.
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Yeah.
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It's ludicrous.
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Yeah, it is interesting to me and also intensely disappointing and horrific but it does feel
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like all of the buttons that they've been pushing for like the past 50 years, all of
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the conservative buttons that get people to do things that like, okay, so not only do
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we just want people to support us, we want certain people that do support us to vocally
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say that they don't support us and all of these buttons can be pressed and the only
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thing that's different is just they press them a lot harder now, you know, like they
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haven't developed new techniques.
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They're just louder.
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Yeah, exactly.
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Yeah!
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They're mad at a video game level smashing these buttons.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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Yep.
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And I think it's interesting to be able to go back and see the sort of the more finesse
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top.
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Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
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So Alex gets another caller and this caller just depressed the shit out of me.
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Some people, I mean, he was looking right at the eye and they're like, oh, what's this?
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I mean, I was over this weekend, I went to a place to do a little business and I was
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talking to some people there about what was going on and happening and I got one guy to
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look up your website, I'll find out later, and another man that was there, I talked to
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him earlier, about a year later, and his eyes kind of like lit up like, I remember you,
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you were telling me about, you know, what was going on and so forth, I had to go see
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a shrink.
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And I looked at him like, how much did you pay?
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I told you what was going on, I told you what was happening.
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This guy took your brain, took it out and dumped it on the ground and put it back in.
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No, no, no, he had a problem and in the brave new world, when you're upset, you go and they
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give you soma.
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Oh yeah, you're right.
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That is such a bummer.
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Wow.
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If you believe this caller, he ran into somebody who a year prior he had gotten into like InfoWars
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type material and the guy was like, I had to go to therapy.
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And then this is like, oh no, it's a sign of weakness that this guy ended up taking
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care of his mental health because probably, you know, this is indicative of somebody who
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got into this and it just went down a terrible rabbit hole and he got himself out of it.
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Well, I mean, it's actually a very encouraging story, except for the interpretation that's
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being given here.
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That is the depressing part.
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Yeah.
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That is the people who left the cult and they're like, oh, I can't believe those apostates.
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How could they do that?
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How could they go get therapy and live well developed lives?
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Yeah.
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Terrible.
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Bummer.
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Yeah.
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And I mean, like on a real level, the damage that this is also doing is encouraging people
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who are listening to experience any instinct to veer away from InfoWars as that, that going
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to get soma.
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And not just that, any help doesn't necessarily mean, you know, InfoWars help.
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It could just be like, hey man, I have been really depressed for the past and they'll,
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they're like, nope, don't go to a therapist.
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They'll dig out your brain.
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Yeah.
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They might try and get you off of the InfoWar.
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You know why you're depressed?
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You're not InfoWar-ing enough.
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You need to promote Alex more.
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You need to promote Alex more.
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Yeah.
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That'll solve it.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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It's like prayer for Jesus, but it's for Alex and he gets rich.
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Yeah.
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So Alex has a weird analogy that he makes that he thinks he can use to deprogram leftists
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who are against guns.
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Oh man, I'm scared.
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What if he gets me?
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He's not.
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He's not going to.
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Okay.
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Um, and then he has one of the saddest, weirdest ads I've heard in a long time.
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Okay.
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The gun is a canary in the coal mine.
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The gun is a symptom of a free society.
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When you're in a Nazi Germany or a Stalinist Russia or a Caesar's Rome or a Fidel Castro's
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Cuba, you don't have armed citizens.
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You have an armed government with a monopoly of force.
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And I'm able to deprogram leftist by explaining this to them.
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I go, would an American Indian be allowed to have a rifle or should, while they're being
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oppressed and killed, should they have their gun taken?
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And they'll go, oh, of course not.
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Well now you get it.
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So shut up and look at the facts and then speak out once you know the reality that swimming
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pools and cars kill far more people than guns do and you've been manipulated by the corporate
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media.
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They get our guns, you people, it's all over for everybody.
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All right, I'm going to break.
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We'll come back, go to the calls before I go any further.
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It's got every medicinal thing.
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Every page has got like 30, 40 items on it.
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It's a hundred and 21 pages long.
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It's a color booklet, color cover booklet, multicolor on the inside.
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I can't describe everything they do.
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Just go to herbal healer.com or go to info wars.com and got a banner link to them.
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He can't describe all the things that do.
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He can't describe any of the things they do.
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He looked like, he sounded like what he was trying to do was get out of describing any
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of the things they do.
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He had no idea.
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He was reading and he's like, ah, this is too long.
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In the moment he had no idea what he was supposed to be selling.
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So he was trying to sell you how great the pamphlet was.
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Just whatever.
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Oh, look at the color.
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So many pages.
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I mean, it's almost, it's almost an anti ad where he's like, he wanted to say like, eh,
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this is too many pages to sell a good product.
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I'm going to be honest with you.
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It's actually such a bad commercial that he comes back from break doing another commercial.
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They called him fixing it, fixing it, being like, oh, you can get classes, saying some
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actual specifics.
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Yeah.
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So did he get you?
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Um, well, I mean, here's the problem with that argument.
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It's not that simple.
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It's also not analogous at all.
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No, no, no.
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But what, where, where, where do you, what do you mean?
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Well, here's what I was thinking.
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I was just thinking that Roman centurions did not have guns to begin with.
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True.
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So that was a big problem.
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Yeah.
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All right.
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And then second, yes, a lot of people were fucking armed in Rome.
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It's just a lot harder when it's a sword.
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But what about the native American example?
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What about the native American example?
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I'm going to throw this out at you.
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Maybe the problem is not fundamentally that they don't have guns.
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True.
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Maybe there's a deeper problem, a more systemic problem.
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Right.
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Yeah.
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And this is where I kind of come to my point about it not being analogous because there
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was an active genocide.
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Yeah, they were trying.
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There was a campaign of that against the people who had existed and lived here prior to the
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colonists coming over.
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And that's not happening to Alex and his dumb militia friends.
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No, no, no.
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There are zero bounties out on all white people.
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Right.
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I think if that were the case, I think things would be a little bit different.
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And also if there were just like common sense type gun reforms that were going around in
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the time of the colonists, then I don't think it would have been a problem.
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Here's what I'll say.
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I will say this.
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If there are bounties out on leftists in four years, I might buy a gun.
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Sure.
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But until there are literal bounties out on anyone who believes similar things to be,
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I don't think that's going to happen.
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And also let's not forget that the Trail of Tears and Indian Removal Act were championed
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by Andrew Jackson, someone who Alex thinks is one of the only good presidents in US history.
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You got it.
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Yep.
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So I don't really care too much about whatever sort of bizarre argument he's trying to make.
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You know, you think that you wouldn't arm an American Indian, but my favorite president
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killed most of them.
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See?
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Now what do you think about guns?
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Good point.
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Yeah.
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You got me.
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Cool.
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So Alex has a surprise guest who pops in, and this was weird.
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This caught me off guard.
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Pastor Butch Paul now joins us.
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He is a Vietnam veteran himself, a guy who's fought the New World Order tooth and nail
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right here on this network.
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And Pastor Butch, what's going on?
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Well, sir, I don't want to interrupt your program.
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We have a good program, but I just got home a few minutes ago from working a job, as you
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know.
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And I had to pass this on in case you didn't know what your problem already did, and the
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listeners may not, that they now are extracting DNA from your fingerprints.
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And those fingerprints can be up to a year old.
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So when you give your fingerprints to your driver's license, they have your DNA if they
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want it.
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Now, where did you get that story?
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This is from UPI science news.
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No, I was not aware of that.
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Yes.
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Shocker.
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I got a lot of radio interviews this morning and didn't do as much preparation as I should
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have.
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Is that on all the decision?
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That will be in my newsletter.
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It will be on my website and maybe the now.
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I'm not sure.
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Well, I've got a sneaking suspicion that if it was United Press International Science,
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my wife has probably already posted it on Infowars.com, but hey, you heard about New
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York?
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We're going to have the homosexual high school?
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Oh, absolutely.
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Great.
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Of course, as you know, as I talked to you already, the Christian schools in Texas, especially
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with Patrick J. Wade, have to shut down because they're not licensed, but we can fund a public
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perverted school.
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Of course, yes.
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Oh, and here in Texas, you can have a Buddhist or a Muslim or a Jewish school that's unlicensed,
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but Christian schools are being shut down.
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This came out of nowhere.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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It wasn't something that came up earlier on the show at all.
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That's a real strange thing for somebody to call in and be like, Alex, did you know
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that a horde of Pegasus are flying over the country to start murdering all of us?
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Well, my wife probably got that and just posted it on the website already.
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Yeah.
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Good to remember his wife was basically running a whole lot of Infowars back at this point.
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Anyway, Pastor Butch actually still has this radio show called Called to Decision Radio,
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but he's not really a figure in Alex's world anymore.
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It's really strange since he's pushing all the same shit, like COVID vaccine conspiracies
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and anti-abortion extremism.
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You'd think they'd still be really tight, but...
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Yeah, what happened?
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I don't know.
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Oh, okay.
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I checked out his website, though, and in the coming week, one of his guests is Coach
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Dave Daubenmire, the complete lunatic that we've covered a couple of times.
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More bizarrely, though, in the last week, he had Larry Pratt on as a guest, the guy
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from Gun Owners of America.
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Yeah.
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Which is pretty weird, because I haven't seen Larry Pratt on Alex's show in a bit.
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It feels like he's not on Alex's gun shit-talking Rolodex, and I suspect that it's because Ted
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Nugent's there for that, and Alex is nothing if not a star fucker.
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Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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You go with the star over the, yeah, yeah.
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So Alex, he wants to take more calls, but he can't.
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Because there's news.
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I'm not going to take any more calls, because I got a bunch of news that needs to be covered.
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Let's hear it.
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I've not yet gotten to, and before I do that, I want to plug a couple of things, and we'll
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cover news, and then talk to Carol in Pennsylvania, and I'm patiently holding here on the show
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today.
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Wait, what?
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What?
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That's very weird.
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Hold on.
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What just happened?
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I want to take calls, but I can't, because I've got to get to the news, but also hear
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some plugs, and then we'll do some news, and then I'll get to some calls.
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What?
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Yeah, that was a rollercoaster ride of what the agenda is going to be.
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Yeah, I have no idea what's going to happen.
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Sorry I can't take calls, I'm going to do some plugs, I'm going to talk to Carol from
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Indiana, I'm going to talk to, yeah.
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But he does get to some headlines and some news, and I kind of realized why Alex doesn't
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cover the news much, and that's because the show grinds to a fucking halt.
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When he's reading headlines, it's just horrible.
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The energy is sucked out of the show entirely.
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When he's talking to callers, or riffing around, and making stuff up, and yelling, it's kind
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of fun.
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Just cold reading headlines and being like, oh ho ho, like why are we even doing this?
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Reading things that actively disagree with his point as he's...
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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I mean, normally he does so much more preparation, but he had those radio interviews.
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Totally.
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No, of course.
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It was a rough morning.
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So anyway, here is one of his stories.
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Don't worry, they claim they're about to catch Saddam.
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Do you believe any of that?
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The wax figures they put on TV and said it was his son's?
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Now they're going to have some new wax figurine and tell us it's Saddam Hussein when the guy's
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living in Belarus, paid off by Rumsfeld and Bush, according to major Russian and Iranian
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newspapers, who I have found to be more accurate than the neocon lies.
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Okay.
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Well, this one's...
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I mean, that's a low bar.
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Sure.
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But in this case, he did not clear that bar.
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No, no, no, that bar did not get cleared.
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Yeah.
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Absolutely not.
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He thinks that Saddam's kids' deaths were faked and that Saddam is living in Belarus.
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So good, good, that this was something he consistently has been reporting and saying
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he believes.
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Yeah.
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It's nice to know that he's always trusted Russian television more than the rest of them.
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And Iranian TV.
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Yeah, Iranian TV.
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Sure.
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Why not?
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You know why, though?
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Because they would have him on.
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Oh, yeah.
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Well, yeah.
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He was a guest on Iranian TV shows.
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Really?
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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And he would be on RT and shit.
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Sure.
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No, that for sure.
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I didn't know he was on an Iranian show.
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Yeah, I think he trusts those media spheres because they accept him.
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So are you telling me that it's entirely possible, if not probable, that at one point in time
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there were several Iranian Infowars fans?
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Yes.
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Yeah.
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Definitely.
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Yeah.
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So here's some more news.
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What a weird thing to be.
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Mm-hmm.
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Yeah.
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This one's not good.
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Continuing, months before movie on death of Jesus causes stir, I'm going to try to get
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Hutton Gibson or maybe even Mel Gibson on the show because, I mean, all it does is show
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what the Bible says happened.
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The corrupt Pharisees had Jesus killed, and the Jewish groups are saying that is anti-Semitic.
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So this wasn't the criticism the Jewish groups had, and the criticism wasn't just coming
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from Jewish groups.
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There were a whole lot of anti-Semitic tropes that at least were nodded towards in that
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movie, and there's just a foundational problem of trying to make one story out of the four
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gospels that many people have suggested Mel Gibson should just not have tried to do that.
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Didn't they win best adapted screenplay?
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So also, Hutton Gibson is a Holocaust denier and has claimed that the Second Vatican Council,
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the one where it was decreed that the Jews were not responsible for Jesus' death, was
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a secret plot orchestrated by the Masons and the Jews.
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Here are some of his other thoughts.
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Let's hear them.
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Quote, this is absolutely ridiculous, and the Holocaust, it's all, maybe not all, fiction,
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but most is.
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He was asked, quote, why do the Jews construct Holocaust museums?
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And he answered, quote, there are too many survivors.
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It's just a gimmick to collect money.
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They have to go where there's money.
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Here's another quote of his, quote, they cannot admit that they were wrong, he's referring
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to killing Jesus.
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Right, right, right.
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They've been at it for all of history.
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Is the Jew still actively anti-Christian?
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He is, for by being a Jew, he's anti-everyone else.
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That's one of the wilder things that I've ever heard a person say out loud.
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Mel Gibson's dad.
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Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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And then, of course, Mel Gibson himself has had a little bit of a history of anti-Semitic
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outbursts.
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Sure.
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An owner writer told a story about meeting Mel Gibson.
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Jewish people came up in conversation, and he asked her, quote, you're not an oven dodger,
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are you?
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This language, and worse, was reported to have been used regularly by Mel Gibson, reported
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by Joe Esterhaus, a screenwriter who was working with Gibson on a film that never got made.
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He also said that Gibson called the Holocaust, quote, mostly a lot of horseshit.
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And of course, in 2006, he yelled about how Jews are responsible for all the wars in the
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world when he got pulled over for a DUI.
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There was that.
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Yeah.
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Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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Seems like this is Alex's kind of family.
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Loves it.
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Starting to think maybe there were a lot of anti-Semitic tropes in The Passion of the
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Christ.
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Yeah.
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Yeah, yeah.
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I mean, look.
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Look.
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Let's just look.
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I mean, if you watch the movie and you don't know who made it, it's still a bit offensive.
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There are some scenes that are like, well, this is a little much.
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And you consider who made it, and you're like, oh, okay, that was intentional.
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And then you remember how many youth groups were bussed in to see that movie, and all
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those children were just bombarded with Hollywood anti-Semitism.
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Woo.
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Tough.
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Good to see that Mel Gibson's still getting some work.
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Oh, yeah.
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No, no, no.
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Anyway, Alex has some thoughts about, I don't know how else to put it, the gay agenda.
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Sure.
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Jay Leno's slated for Queer Eye Makeover.
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This is out of adage.com.
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Gay product placement show draws high ratings, and they admit that it's actually being funded,
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that the sitcoms and dramas are being funded by groups to push homosexuality.
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Yeah, the government pushes anti-gun messages.
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A lot of this is paid for, and here's a positive promotion out of one of the big advertisement
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agency websites bragging about this.
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Major marketers are ongoing placement deals on the breakout, yet Queer Eye for the straight
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guy, even as NBC plots an August 14th special in which the show's gay fashion team will
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make over Jay Leno.
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See, it's paid for, folks.
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When you watch that sitcom and it seems like they've got this agenda, yeah, it's paid for
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when you see them say anti-gun comments or anti-American comments.
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This is all expanded under Bush.
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This article that Alex is talking about is about how successful Queer Eye for the Straight
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Guy is, and how people want to buy product placement time on it.
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So like, I don't know, Vidal Sassoon would buy, like put our products on screen.
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Do you mean like a fashion product of some sort would be associated with a fashion show?
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Yes, or some clothing line.
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That kind of stuff is what this is talking about.
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It's not like, oh, the government is paying to put gay content on.
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It's like, this is popular.
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People enjoy it.
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It's getting high ratings.
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So people who want to sell their products are buying time on this.
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No.
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This is ridiculous.
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No, no, no, no, no, no.
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You're just wrong.
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The entire Bush family, if it weren't for the Bush family, Will and Grace would never
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have made it to air.
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Fully funded that first episode.
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You know that.
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I forgot that the first season of Will and Grace was on PBS.
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I forgot that.
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Look, man, this is ridiculous.
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He's pretending this isn't just like commercials.
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He's being somehow offended by it.
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The idea of buying ad time on a program that features homosexual people is somehow an insidious
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conspiracy for him.
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This is pathetic.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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You know, we were pretty convinced that the attitudes from even the far right had kind
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of changed over the years.
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I mean, it's been 20 years.
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There haven't been a shit ton of hurricanes because gay people are fine now.
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And then you just realize they just kind of stopped talking about it.
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Or they talked about it in a slightly different way.
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Exactly.
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They didn't change.
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Yeah.
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Maybe less overtly, like, identifiably hateful things.
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And then just sort of keeping the fire going.
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Yep.
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Yep.
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Underground.
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Yeah.
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Tending the embers.
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Yep.
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Brutal.
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So here's the end of our adventure on August 4th.
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And I think it's just kind of like a nice thing that resonates to the present.
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US government warns of imminent massive internet hack attacks.
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Yeah, we know you're launching them.
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Huge denial of service attacks.
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Yeah, we've already felt that at infoawars.com.
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We're out of time.
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I'll be back tonight night and midnight.
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Great show.
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Really enjoyed your calls.
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I love exposing evil and I appreciate all your support.
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Loves fighting evil.
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Love exposing evil.
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Uh, yeah.
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You remember how, like, right when the invasion of Ukraine started and Alex was saying that
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false flag attacks and hack attacks and, you know, the power grids going down and everything
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were about to happen so they could blame it on Putin?
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Mm-hmm.
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Yeah, and that never happened and he says all that kind of shit for the last twenty
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years.
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Yep.
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Pretty regularly.
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You bet.
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So, Alex's predictions, constantly good.
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Yeah, yeah.
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Saddam's kids, fake death.
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When you've only got one response to things, it does happen over and over and over again,
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doesn't it?
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Whoa, Nelly.
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Yeah.
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Yeah, it's, uh, you know.
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Career's bad.
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Twenty years!
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Yeah.
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Twenty years!
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Mm-hmm.
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God damn!
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Man, imagine if we still did the novelty drinks thing.
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We couldn't fucking sustain that.
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I'm struggling to come up with bright spots, quite frankly.
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Wow, things are getting less bright over time.
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It's not your fault.
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You're not wrong.
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It's not your fault, man.
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Even ice cream isn't always good.
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Yeah, it's not always good.
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Oh, boy.
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Yep, so this brings us to the end of our 2003 adventure.
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Ideally, we'll be back on Wednesday with a present-day episode check-in with Alex.
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Maybe he'll have, like, a scrapbook of pictures from his trip.
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Maybe he'll have a fun story about running into a globalist at some weird outdoor location.
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Sure.
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Certainly not a hot spring, because he's done that story already.
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I want him to accidentally wander into a gemstone store or something along the - like a new
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agey store.
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It's got a name that he doesn't quite understand, and he thinks it's gonna have, like, hot
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peppers or barbecue sauce, and he walks in there.
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Everybody's just looking at gems that might make your day better, you know?
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And then he thinks it's a conspiracy that the gems actually work.
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Exactly!
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The gems work!
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They're killing them!
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I would like to hear - since he was on the West Coast - I'd like to hear about him going
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into, like, the woods in Oregon or Washington.
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That'd be fun.
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Beautiful woods in Oregon.
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Running into a globalist who then introduces him to Sasquatch.
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Ooh.
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Yes.
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I'd like a Sasquatch appearance.
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Yeah.
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Oh, what if he was out West Sasquatch hunting?
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With Bobcat Goldthwait?
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And!
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What if they teamed up for a - yeah, that's the shit right there.
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And the only reason he went to Florida wasn't to hang out with Alfie Oakes and go do that.
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He was looking for the Skunk Ape.
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Oh, I thought he was looking for the Loch Ness Monster, because he really doesn't have
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a sense of direction.
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No, when he went to Bilderberg, though, that was just to go to Europe so he could look
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for the Loch Ness.
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Right, right, right.
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Absolutely.
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He's just a cryptid hunter.
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What's really going on?
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It would have been a better career for him.
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It would have been a great career.
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I want to find all these beings so I can yell at them.
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Ugh.
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I gotta find out if these cryptids are into gun rights.
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I'm gonna scream at animals that don't exist.
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Which cryptids are into the Second Amendment?
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The Mothman?
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Does the Mothman believe?
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Mothman could be.
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The right to carry.
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What else we got?
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Yetis for sure.
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They're the Frozen North.
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They gotta hunt.
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Absolutely.
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Yeah.
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They got rifles.
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Uh-huh.
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What else do we got?
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Gargoyles.
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They don't like guns in the 90s.
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They don't like guns.
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Nah, nah, nah.
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Mm-mm.
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They can fly.
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They don't need them.
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They land on people.
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That was most of the show.
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Trying to think of other cryptids.
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Why am I having trouble?
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I don't know.
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I don't like cryptids that much.
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That's probably why.
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Anyway, Jordan.
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Yes.
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We'll be back.
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Indeed we will.
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But until then, we have a website.
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We do.
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It's knowledgefight.com.
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Yep.
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We're also on Twitter.
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We are.
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It is at knowledge underscore fight and at go to bed Jordan.
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Yep.
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I also forgot an out of context drop that I had so here we go.
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I'm pro-gun.
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I'm a commie.
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That's right.
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Anyway, we'll be back.
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But until then, I'm Neo.
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I'm Leo.
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I'm DCX Clark.
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I hope you all have a wonderful, dreamy, creamy summer.
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And now here comes the sex robots.
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Andy in Kansas.
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You're on the air.
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Thanks for holding.
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Hello, Alex.
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I'm a first time caller.
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I'm a huge fan.
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I love your work.
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I love you.
