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On a note of knowledge fight, Dan and Jordan, I am sweating.
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Knowledgefight.com, it's time to pray.
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I'm sick of them posing as if they're the good guys, saying me are the bad guys.
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Money. Riddler. Riddler. Riddler. Andy and Kansas. Andy and. Andy. Stop it. Andy and
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Kansas. Andy and Kansas. Andy. It's time to pray. Andy and Kansas, you're on the air. Thanks for
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holding us. Hello Alex, I'm a first time caller. I'm a huge fan. I love your work. Knowledge Fight.
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Knowledgefight.com. I love you. Hey everybody, welcome back to Knowledge Fight. I'm Dan. I'm
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Jordan. We're a couple dudes, like to sit around, drink novelty beverages, and talk just a little
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bit about Alex Jones. Indeed we are Dan. Jordan. Dan. Jordan. Quick question. What's your bright
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spot today? I don't know, you go first. My bright spot Dan is Dennis Rodman. I know you were texting
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me about watching The Last Dance. Yeah, I broke down, I'd been avoiding it, and finally I was
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like, I need sports so bad I'll watch a documentary, and of course I fucking loved it because I'm a huge
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Chicago Bulls fan. Sure, how could you not be? You're a man of a certain age. Exactly, and I remember
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specifically loving Dennis Rodman so much, but I was only like eight to ten at the time,
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and I remember all of the anti-queer identity stuff that I got from my moralizing. Like him
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marrying himself and whatever. Yeah, just everybody with his whole like, oh you can't do that and all
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that shit, and then I'm watching the documentary and I'm remembering, man, everybody did him wrong
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and he was fucking awesome. I love Dennis Rodman so much. Enough to do his run in the WCW and
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how he's friends with Kim Jong-un. Yeah, why not? Kim Jong-un isn't even sure of any more.
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I love Dennis Rodman. All right. He was in, maybe not now, but in the 90s, man, that guy. He was a
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very interesting character. Yeah, and part of those rough and tumble Detroit Pistons with
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Bill Landy. Yeah, oh yeah. Best on-ball defender and rebounder that anybody had ever seen. No
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doubt about it. No clue how good he was. I guess my bright spot is there's been some nice
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recommendations from people about various seltzers to try, and I'm thrilled that people are getting
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in on the act, and simultaneously I'd like to thank some of the people who have had dissenting
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opinions about not liking seltzer, but also still being cool with the fact that I've embarked down
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this weird road. I appreciate both of these responses that people are having, because they're
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tolerant of my nonsense. So Jordan, today we have an interesting episode to go over. We're going to
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be talking about May 10th and 11th, 2020. I'm Dan, this is 2020. That is Sunday and Monday of this
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week. I'd kind of hope to throw Tuesday in as well, keep us super up to date, but couldn't do it.
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There's just too much. There is so much going on on these episodes, and Alex is wrong about so much
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in so many different ways. Well, that's exciting. Yeah, it's actually remarkably fascinating to me
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how many different ways he can be wrong. Yeah, it's a masterclass. Yes, more or less. He's going
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to teach you how to cook and be wrong about things. Yeah, I love it. And we'll get down to business
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on that, but before we do, I got to say thank you to some folks who have signed up and are
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supporting the show. So first, Robert. Thank you so much. You are now a Policy Wonk. I'm a Policy
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Wonk. Thanks Robert. Next, Marcel. Thank you so much. You are now a Policy Wonk. I'm a Policy Wonk.
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Thank you very much, Marcel. Thank you, Marcel. Next, great name, Daniel. Thank you so much. You
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are now a Policy Wonk. I'm a Policy Wonk. Thank you, Daniel. Thank you, Daniel. Next, Graham and
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it's spelled G-R-A-E-M-E. Great spelling of Graham. Thank you so much. You are now a Policy Wonk.
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I'm a Policy Wonk. Thank you, Graham. Thank you, Graham. Next, Bailey. Thank you so much. You are
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you are now a policy wonk.
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Thanks, Bailey!
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Thank you, Bailey.
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Next, Kladdypat, thank you so much,
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you are now a policy wonk.
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I'm a policy wonk.
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Thank you, Kladdypat.
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And Alyssa R, thank you so much,
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you are now a policy wonk.
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I'm a policy wonk.
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Thanks, Alyssa!
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Thank you, Alyssa.
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And then, finally, I'd like to thank you
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to a couple of people who donated on elevated level.
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We appreciate that very much.
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So first, Craig, thank you so much.
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You are now a technocrat.
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And second generation Rosa Crucian, thank you so much,
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you are now a technocrat.
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I'm a policy wonk.
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Crikey mate, that's fantastic. Have yourself a brew. How's your 401k doing, bro?
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All right, we gotta go full tilt boogie on this Watson, all right? Let's just get down to business.
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We ain't making that money off that heroin. Why are you pimps so good?
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My neck is freakishly large. I declare info war on you.
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Thank you so much, Craig, and thank you so much, second generation Rosicrucian.
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Yes, thank you very much to the both of you.
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If you're out there listening and you're thinking, hey, I enjoyed the show,
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I'd like to support what these gents do, you can do that by going to our website,
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and send it over to a local charity in your area that helps people in need.
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Yeah, we would love it if you did either.
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Indeed. So Jordan, we got to do a little bit of an update on the year of the seltzer.
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Of course.
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But I should also say that speaking of knowledgefight.com and people who are
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supporting the show, I believe sometime today on Wednesday, as you're listening to this episode,
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there should be a part one of a Q&A series up on our, just on our homepage, knowledgefight.com.
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There'll be a streaming player of a Q&A thing that you and I did,
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where we answered some audience questions.
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And we did it together.
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Yes. And we also drank some seltzers and tried them out and gave some thank you.
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So there's some policy wonk shout outs on that to be found and for your enjoyment.
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Feel free to listen to it now if it's up or, hey, if you want to wait till Thursday,
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give yourself a nice little bridge between our Wednesday and Friday episode.
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Can't go a day without content.
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I didn't want to put it up on the regular podcast stream because I felt like it might
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be overburdening people, but it's there if people want it. So that's my feeling.
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Go for it.
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So in terms of the year of the seltzer, we're up to 55 seltzers now.
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There's a lot of progress being made here.
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And, you know, all's good on the Western front, as they say, all quiet on the Western front.
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Okay.
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I got some Whole Foods brand seltzers.
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They come in large glass bottles.
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Okay.
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And they're great.
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Okay.
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Whole Foods brand seltzers in large bottles.
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Spectacular.
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Sparkling mineral water is so good.
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Yes.
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I've tried two of them so far.
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Got a strawberry coming in at 65.
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That's good.
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And lemon raspberry coming in at 72 because it was better.
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Lemon raspberry.
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Yes. Very good. Very good.
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I wouldn't buy that flavor combination normally.
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There's one of the reasons that I ended up buying these. They're cheap as hell.
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And because one of them was like an elderberry something or other.
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And I was looking at the bottle and I'm like, I would never buy this.
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But then I realized, I don't know what elderberry tastes like.
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No clue what it is.
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I have no idea. It could be great. It could be terrible.
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I don't know.
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So we'll find out.
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But also there's one that is a pineapple passion fruit.
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And I have a slight expectation that that might end up being one of the ones that breaks into the 80s.
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One of the greats.
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Yeah.
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Okay.
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Because pineapple flavor done well.
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The 90s bulls of seltzers, if you will.
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It's possible this could be Rodman.
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Like pineapple, if done well, is fantastic.
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Great.
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And I'm realizing that I may have an unknown or unrealized love of passion fruit, as we've discussed.
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Yes.
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That could end up being like a dark horse.
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Whole foods, pineapple passion fruit.
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But I'm keeping it in the fridge because I don't want it.
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It's Schrodinger's amazing seltzer for now.
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Right, right, right, right.
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I feel like I have to get through every coconut one I can find and be disappointed and horrified
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before I treat myself to something so wonderful as pineapple passion.
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We'll see.
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So Jordan, today, like I said, we're going over May 10th and 11th.
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A lot of fucked up nonsense to get through and I'm excited to do it.
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But first, here's an out of context drop from today's show.
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What are we doing today?
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We're doing the same thing we do every day.
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Pinky taking over the world.
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That's Pinky in the brain.
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You bet it is.
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Thank God he psyches that.
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Thank you.
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Thank you for reminding us that it was Pinky in the brain that he's referencing there.
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Yep.
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Even as he gets the quote fucking wrong.
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Did he?
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Yeah.
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It's time to try to take over the world, not take over the world.
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Stickler.
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They never actually succeed in taking over the world, Dan.
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That is true.
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As far as I recall from my Pinky in the brain viewings, there was not one where it just
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ended like, hey, we did it.
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Yeah, that would be great, though.
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So here we're going to start on the 10th.
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That's Sunday.
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And Alex has a number of narratives that he wants to get busy on.
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And this first one is about people in foreign countries taking chips.
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And I'm going to lay it all out for you today.
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Did you know starting five years ago in Sweden, they also do in other countries,
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that you get free bus rides.
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If you take an implantable microchip.
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And last time I read more than 10,000 people in Stockholm.
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Yeah.
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Where you get Stockholm syndrome named from.
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Wow.
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Congrats.
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Captors.
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More than 10,000 people, I guess, have Stockholm syndrome in Stockholm, the pilot city, and
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took implantable chips.
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Well, look at this.
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Look at this little juicy.
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Benjamin Netanyahu says he wants every child in Israel next year to get chips.
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And the Israeli intelligence agency will run the whole thing.
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Just like that.
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You're inside the new world order.
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Just like that.
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So there's some misrepresentations going on here and some irresponsible reporting.
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Like when he called news a little piece of juicy?
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Well, we should be used to that by now.
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That's gross.
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That's kind of par for the course for this guy.
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So the way he tells this story about Sweden, there's an arrangement where if you agree
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to take an implantable microchip, you can get free bus rides.
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What he's referring to is a pilot program that a train company called SJ tried in 2017
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where people could use implantable chips to store their electronic train tickets on this
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chip.
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I found an article about this in The Independent, and this line seems particularly relevant.
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Quote, before you pack your bags for Sweden, the scheme is only applicable to those who
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already have the biometric implant.
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SJ is not offering to chip people.
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Around 2,000 Swedes have had the surgical implant to date, most of them employed in
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the tech industry.
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Well, yeah.
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So it's people who already have a chip.
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Yeah, people who are already kind of into body mods and they're just like, hey, if you're
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already here, let's try this out and you guys can try it out and then we're good.
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Yeah, everybody's consenting.
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Yeah.
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The biohacking idea took root in startup companies with the implant being offered to be used
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as an optional way to access buildings and was specifically designed to not be able to
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be tracked.
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A 2017 article in The Washington Post is really clear that the chip, quote, has no built-in
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power supply and can't send signals about its position.
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Obviously, there are concerns one could have about what the technology could grow into
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in the future and the challenges it could present in terms of privacy, but this basic
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tech doesn't seem to be that effective in terms of being the evil New World Order Mark
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of the Beast that Alex wants to present it as.
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I don't know.
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It sounds pretty Mark of the Beast-y.
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Yeah.
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Sounds pretty much right in line.
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Mark of the Beast-y boys.
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Yeah, nice.
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All right.
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Come on now.
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So anyway, these 2,000 or so people already have implanted chips, and this train company
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decided to test if they could use them to store tickets.
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The consumer still has to buy tickets.
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It's not free tickets.
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And the train workers then will scan their hands where the chip is.
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And if they've bought a ticket, it'll accept that as payment.
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They're not chipping people by luring them in with free transportation.
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And if you don't want to get one of these chips, there's still tons of other ways you
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can buy tickets to ride and do all the other things that the chip enables you to do, like
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get into buildings.
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You still have a key card.
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I'm always fascinated by how terrified these people are of a computer chip.
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And yet at the same time, they're carrying around a phone that can be remotely turned
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on without their knowledge and record everything that they're saying.
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Right.
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Like, you know, one of those is more scary.
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Some of these articles about the Swedish chip thing very clearly bring that point up.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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Seems very obvious.
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Yeah.
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Oh.
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A July 2019 article in the New York Post estimated that approximately 4,000 people in Sweden
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have gotten this chip implant by that point.
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And I have no idea where Alex is getting his 10,000 in Stockholm numbers from.
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I would assume he's just exaggerating it from headlines like, quote, thousands of Swedes
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are inserting microchips under their skin from NPR.
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And that number is not 10,000.
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He's just assuming.
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That's what I guess is going on.
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Thousands must be 10, but making a round number.
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The story about what Benjamin Netanyahu has proposed is something completely different.
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He's suggested that as a part of reopening after the coronavirus, Israel should put chips
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in all schoolchildren, which would then make beeping noises if they got too close to each
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other, which presumably would help with enforcing social distancing.
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That doesn't sound like a great idea, but OK.
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Experts have roundly rejected the idea, saying it's practically unfeasible, very likely legally
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impossible, and wouldn't achieve the desired result, even if it were possible to implement.
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It seems, from what I can tell, that this proposal is not going to get off the ground,
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and a point brought up by cyber resilience expert Inat Meron, an article in the Jerusalem
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Post, he kind of makes clear why.
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Quote, if the information with the kids' location is uploaded to the internet, a pedophile with
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some cyber knowledge may invade the system and stock them outside their schools, follow
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them and distribute the information on other platforms, Meron said.
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Can the state take responsibility for that?
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There are a ton of reasons, including concerns like that, why this would be a very unwise
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system for a state to put in place.
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And until I see evidence of the contrary, this kind of seems like a world leader blowing
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hard about dumb ideas about how they envision returning to some kind of normalcy.
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Yeah.
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And let's not forget that just back in January, Netanyahu was, quote, charged with bribery
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and fraud and breach of trust in three separate corruption cases.
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For what?
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These cases are ongoing, and since he's been convicted, or since he hasn't been convicted,
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he's still able to legally serve as prime minister, but that may not go on indefinitely.
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Isn't that wild?
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Yeah.
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The laws are crazy.
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Anyway, the point here is that these two situations with microchips are completely different.
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One of them is a passive chip that's not run by the government and does not track people
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being used when they're using it like a key card, whatever.
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The other is a government suggesting putting geo-locating chips in children.
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It's pretty dishonest to have a conversation where you treat these as equivalent or even
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related things just because they involve microchips.
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Especially since one of them, it took me all of four seconds to be like, that's a terrible
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idea. Stop that.
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Very easy.
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Very easy to know that nobody's going to follow through on Netanyahu's ridiculous nonsense.
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I mean, I don't want to say that no one will, because the world is wild now.
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I assume Turkey will.
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You can have a conversation about how the idea of this Sweden program is like, what
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this could facilitate or grow into or whatever.
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If you want to have that conversation, by all means, go ahead.
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But talking about it on the merits, it's just it's not even close to the same thing as what
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Netanyahu is proposing.
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Absolutely.
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And I find it offensive when Alex just makes them the same thing.
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So Alex gets talking and boy, this guy fucking loves history.
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I'll tell you what.
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I mean, it's impressive.
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I mean, with the old Vikings, a lot of the Viking tribes, when a man died.
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They would take his wife and sometimes his daughters, because here we go them all right.
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And they would tie them up on a boat, a ship and send them out the water on fire together
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so they could go to Valhalla together.
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I'm listening.
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Is that Netanyahu's idea?
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Now, why did people act like that?
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Every culture end up setting things up like that.
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Well, I have the answers.
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So just to be clear, Alex's reason for the cultures all doing this is because interdimensional
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demons are telling them to sacrifice humans for their pleasure or something.
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And this is based on Alex's deep research.
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Unfortunately, this appears to be yet another thing that Alex saw in a movie and decided
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to call deep research.
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For one thing, Viking funerals at sea were absolutely not the standard for people of
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the Scandinavian tribes that we call Vikings.
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You can easily see how absurdly expensive that would become if you were making boats
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and burning them at sea for every person who died.
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Infinite resources, Dan.
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Come on, Dan.
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Sure.
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There were some people who had funeral pyres and boats on the sea, but the historical record
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tends to indicate that these were reserved for really important people.
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The different groups that are all lumped in as Viking were not a uniform culture, but
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most people were cremated or just buried, typically.
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However, boats were a really important symbol in their culture, representing safe passage
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to the afterlife, so people would often be buried with parts of their boats, or even
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cooler, their burial mounds would be made to resemble ships themselves.
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Ooh, that is fun.
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This was far more common than the funeral at sea, but the funeral at sea is what's always
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depicted in movies, so someone who only watches movies and decides that studying would, you
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know, that's basically the same thing.
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Right, right.
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They would probably think that it's super common and what they did for everybody.
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Yeah.
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This thematic touch where the Norse dead is put on a boat and then they shoot fire arrows
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at it, like Alex is describing, that doesn't come from history.
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It actually started in the 1958 film The Vikings, and it's been a really popular trope ever
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since then.
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It is really fucking cool.
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It is.
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I mean, let's be honest.
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It's cool.
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It's really cool.
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And that's why it stuck around.
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How did they even hit it?
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It's so far away.
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Yeah.
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So one of the difficulties on this subject is the actual written history, the record
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about Viking peoples is limited, so there's a bit of uncertainty about what the precise
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reasons were for why they did the things they did in terms of funeral rituals.
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It's a really diverse set of funeral rituals they had, and a lot of them seem to involve
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like chaos.
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So like it's really tough to know exactly what was going on.
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There may have been some instances where of Norsemen being buried with their wives, like
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murdered, you know, but what was far more common was them killing slaves to be buried
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with the person to help them on their trip to the afterlife, which is something that
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you unfortunately do see in a lot of older cultures.
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Also, there's no reason for Alex just to think that women were property in Viking communities.
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There's strong archeological evidence that women were in fact not property.
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There have been merchant scales found in women's graves, which indicates that they were involved
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in trading, and thus allowed to have some sort of autonomous life.
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Additionally, in 1904, the remains of the Ulsberg ship were found in Vestfold, Norway.
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The ship was a funeral vessel, which served as the burial site for two important Norsewomen
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who died around 834 CE.
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This is like a particularly large boat casket, 70 feet long, 17 feet wide, and 30 feet high.
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So it gives the strong evidence that these were women who had a particularly important
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position in their community, which Alex would not think is possible because he's only seen
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movies and TV shows, and maybe played The Witcher, because that sort of Viking-ish,
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the Stellage Islands.
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They have that whole thing where they burn a boat.
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Ah, Skellige, yeah, love it.
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This is not to say that these communities were egalitarian or equitable.
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That's not fair, probably, but just the perspective that Alex has on these peoples is not something
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he's gained from research.
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It's just that he watched some TVs and movies.
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He knows nothing.
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This is nonsense.
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Yeah, he's not read a book.
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He could not tell you whether or not a ship is still a ship if all of its parts have been
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replaced.
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That's an interesting philosophical question.
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It's difficult to answer, and also there's one made out of toenails, so there's that
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too.
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I have an interesting philosophical question to ask you.
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What's that?
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If you're Alex Jones, and you're circling the drain desperately, and things are falling
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apart, should you follow through with the plan that you had before the virus outbreak,
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where you start talking more about Seth Rich?
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I can't think of any reason why not.
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Big article at National File, they've got a great headline, but it should have been
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this.
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NSA has communications between Seth Rich and WikiLeaks, attorney claims.
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I read the article, Cy Hirsch, two-time Pulitzer Prize winner, most respected as you can get.
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He's now talked to the FBI agents and others.
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They've seen it.
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They all know it.
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Seth Rich was the leaker.
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The story here is that this lawyer named Ty Clevenger, he's come out and he's made some
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claims regarding Seth Rich that he's failed to substantiate in any way.
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I wonder how.
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His first claim is that he's been told that the NSA or other related agencies are in possession
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of communications between Seth Rich and WikiLeaks.
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There's no evidence provided for this claim, but that's never stopped Alex from believing
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something before.
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He claims that, quote, several high-ranking FBI and NSA officials have seen the correspondence
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between Rich and WikiLeaks firsthand, to which I say, prove it.
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Let's see the evidence on that, buddy.
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Is he talking about a few lieutenant colonels?
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Probably.
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Yeah, I think he's probably talking about some lieutenant colonels.
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So Clevenger goes on to claim that he has a recording of Seymour Hirsch talking to one
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of his clients and claiming that he spoke to someone at the FBI who confirmed emails
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between Rich and WikiLeaks.
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This recording is not available on the Info Wars article about this, nor the National
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File one that I think Alex is referring to.
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To this, I say, let's see that audio, because I have found some audio that purports to be
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leaked Seymour Hirsch phone calls, and they don't prove any of this stuff.
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They're related to this topic somewhat, but they don't prove any of these claims.
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Well, yeah, but you're just not listening to the right ones, Dan.
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Sure, maybe, but they're not providing any of them, so I don't know what the fuck to
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do.
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This guy needs to put up, is what I'm saying.
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I think he's one of those guys who doesn't want to put up for some reason.
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Probably.
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I think he's just one of those guys who's like, I don't need to put up.
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So this seems to be a conspiracy theorist taking threads that have existed from the
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beginning of the Seth Rich bullshit and pretending that they're new.
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The Seymour Hirsch thing was a claim that goes back to at least 2017, when Hirsch himself
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debunked it.
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One of the OG Seth Rich conspiracists, Ed Batowski, who's a Trump associate and donor,
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said he, quote, became convinced that the FBI had a report concluding that Seth Rich's
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laptop showed that he had contacts with WikiLeaks after speaking to the legendary reporter Seymour
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Hirsch, who was also investigating Rich's death.
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According to the transcripts in the lawsuit, Batowski says Hirsch had an FBI source who
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confirmed the report.
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That's from a 2017 thing.
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NPR interviewed Hirsch about this, and he said, quote, I hear gossip.
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Batowski took two and two and made 45 out of it.
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Yeah.
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Yeah, that sounds about right.
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This misrepresentation of Hirsch was passed from Batowski to Fox News, who ended up feeding
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the flames of the initial propaganda about this, which ended in lawsuits.
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Everybody came out fine, smelling like roses.
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This is exactly what Clevenger is talking about.
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And I know that because I found a July 2019 blog post on the website Law Flog, which was
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written by Ty Clevenger himself, where he discusses how Ed Batowski is one of his clients.
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F-Log's Law Flog?
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Yes.
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Is that the one?
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Yeah.
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Another reason that I'm kind of worried about Clevenger's work is because he also said in
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this post about the Seth Rich stuff, new, new stuff, quote, back to the NSA.
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Former NSA officials Bill Binney, Ed Loomis, and Kirk Wiebe are prepared to testify that
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the DNC emails published by WikiLeaks could not have been obtained via hacking.
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This is a huge problem because Bill Binney has walked back that claim.
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And from everything I can tell, he would not testify to that in court because he was shown
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that his assertions about download speeds were completely wrong.
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This again is another element of these claims being made by Clevenger that just seems to
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be the old Seth Rich conspiracy shit being reintroduced and pretending that it all hasn't
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already been discredited.
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This is pretty sad.
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And honestly, we've done this already, so I'm not going to waste my time watching Alex
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pretend there's new information here.
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Alex better be fucking careful, though, because this is a topic that has led to a number of
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people being sued already, and the family of Seth Rich does not seem thrilled that people
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are keeping this alive.
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Yeah.
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I think in his situation, though, part of him must be like, what else do you got?
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You know, like, oh, you're going to sue me.
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Yeah.
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Join the fucking club.
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You know, like, oh, you're you're going to be the last one to sue me if I have any money
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left at the end of this.
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You still won't.
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I might be able to get a little press out of getting sued and then maybe I can make
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an arrangement or something I can I can settle whatever.
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Yeah.
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And all in service of jangling keys away from his guy being the worst human being on the
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planet.
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Yeah.
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Yep.
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And having to deal with that.
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Yeah.
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He doesn't want to do that.
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No.
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I mean, I understand already we're all over the place.
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And that's because this episode is one of the rare instances where Alex is throwing
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spaghetti at the yeah.
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Viking funeral.
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No, no more narratives are working.
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So let's see what we can figure out.
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Yeah.
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But of course, a lot of it does still end up having to be about like coronavirus denialism.
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Sure.
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And one of the big things that he's done with that is, you know, to craft the giant conspiracy
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is, of course, Bill Gates's patent zero six zero six zero six.
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Right.
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Right.
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The patent of the devil.
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Yes.
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Unfortunately, the number six has come back up in another place.
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OK.
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Congress introduces Bill to allow government to mass test Americans for covid-19 in their
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homes forcibly.
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And ladies and gentlemen, let me give you.
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The bill number, shall I, six, six, six, six.
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Now that's one too many, buddy, to go five months ago, got a patent on two thousand and
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twenty zero six zero six zero six to track you with either a chip or a bracelet.
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I got to say that it's so unsatisfying how all the satanic shit that Alex tries to build
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up is not actually ever six, six, six.
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I know.
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I understand that the bill number is just six is, but it's not six, six, six.
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That patent filing number may have been zero six zero six zero six.
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But that is not six, six, six.
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If the number of the beast is six, six, six, that is a revelation saying, hey, weirdo,
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look out for numbers that remind you of six, six, six.
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It's saying that the specific number of the beast is six, six, six, six, six, six is not
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six six, six.
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And I reject this lazy level of devil baited.
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No, it's the devil is fungible than the devil is always willing to play a little game around
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on you.
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The devil is a suggestion.
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Yeah.
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Get the fuck out of here.
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So here are some other bills that have the number six, six, six, six and let's bask in
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the pure evil.
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All right.
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Let's do it.
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In the twenty seventeen, twenty eighteen legislative session, the New York State Senate passed
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Bill six, six, six, six, which, quote, relates to authorizing the care and treatment of injured
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employees by dually licensed and certified acupuncturists under the workers compensation
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program.
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Devil uses acupuncture.
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Next, injured workers can now go see an acupuncturist.
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Pure devilry.
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Exactly.
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Cuomo ended up vetoing this bill, though, so does that mean that Cuomo was fighting
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the devil?
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Let's not get bogged down into it because this shit runs deep.
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Who could forget about the deep seated Satanism in twenty eighteen's U.S. House of Representatives
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Bill H.R. six, six, six, six?
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Or as you might remember it, quote, the bill to authorize the secretary of the interior
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to grant to states and local governments easements and rights of way over federal land within
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Gateway National Recreation Area for construction, operation and maintenance of projects for
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control and prevention of flooding and shoreline erosion.
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That sounds exactly like the devil.
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It gives you chills to hear about that level of evil.
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Oh, man.
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Easings.
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No.
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Everything must be harder.
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Shoreline erosion.
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But really, why stop at bill numbers?
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If six, six, six, six is basically just six, six, six, shouldn't we be scouring phone numbers
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for clues as beds of devil worship?
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Absolutely.
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If so, I suggest Alex do a big expose on the Hawaiian Electric Company whose phone number
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is suspiciously nine, six, nine, six, six, six, six.
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That's an extra six.
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That's so many six.
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And the two nines are just basically upside down sixes.
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That's all the sixes.
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This thing goes deep.
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OK.
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And I realize how deep it went.
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But, you know, you know, there are even pockets of Satanists in the world of early nineteen
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hundreds.
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Texas ranchers.
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How else could you possibly explain that one of the most famous ranchers in King County,
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Texas is literally named the six, six, six, six ranch case closed Satanism?
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Now, I sense a little bit of personal enmity towards Alex for this bullshit.
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No, that's actually true.
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No, no, no.
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The four, six is ranch.
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I mean, yeah.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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It's just stupid.
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I fucking hate this stupidity.
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I know.
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So House resolutions are numbered in the order they're introduced.
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And if more than six hundred six thousand six hundred sixty five resolutions pop up
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in a session, you're inevitably going to get a six, six, six, six.
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It legit means nothing.
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Bill six, six, six, six in the 2007 2008 session of Congress is actually something that Alex
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would probably wholeheartedly support, quote, to amend the Clean Air Act to provide that
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greenhouse gases are not subject to the bill.
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I bet that number would become substantially less suspicious if Alex were covering that
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bill.
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Yeah, that one actually does sound 60 60 to me.
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Well, what about this year?
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You know, there was already a bill six, six, six, right?
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That happened already.
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And it was to extend benefits to veterans.
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Yeah.
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I know Alex thinks he's proving the stupid numerology bullshit, but if that's the level
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of game he wants to play, I guess he's free to.
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It just looks pretty fucking embarrassing from where I'm sitting.
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It is very embarrassing.
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As for the actual bill, it begins, quote, to authorize the secretary of Health and Human
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Services to award grants to eligible entities to conduct diagnostic testing for covid-19
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and related activities such as contact tracing through mobile health units and as necessary
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at individuals residences and for other purposes.
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Let's pause there.
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All the bill is doing is authorizing the secretary of HHS to give grants.
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Alex does realize that Trump gets to decide who the secretary of HHS is, right?
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No, the deep state decides this is a presidentially appointed position and Trump's guy, Alex Azar,
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is currently in that role.
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If this were some kind of a nefarious thing or this bill was meant to facilitate evil,
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it literally could only be done by the action of the person Trump hired and could fire unless
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they're blackmailing Alex Azar.
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Whatever.
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Already, after just the first line of this act, you can see how any conspiracy about
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this is mostly based on the bill number, not on content.
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This is a very short bill, but Alex isn't a big reader.
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If he's going to complain about some news article being four pages long, it's not like
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he's a guy who likes primary information.
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If you read this, it's pretty clear that what this bill is about is allowing the secretary
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of Health and Human Services to distribute grant money to eligible organizations that
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are involved in increasing our testing capacity to get to the point where it's conceivable
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to return safely to something resembling normal.
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The part about doing in-home testing, that would be something that those entities would
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receive grants, they could do this to facilitate people who are already quarantining.
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You can imagine how much better a system it would be if you could get reliable testing
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at home as opposed to thinking you might be sick and then having to go out into public
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being unsure if doing so is a risk to others.
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This whole conspiracy is a load of bullshit, and at this point, I'm weary.
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I'm just weary.
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It takes so little to create the appearance of something evil when you want it to be.
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Yeah, did they put forcibly in that bill?
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It sounds like something that Congress does.
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I didn't see that.
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Yeah, they usually put forcibly.
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I think that might have been editorialized.
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Let's give them a grant to people who will break into your home and test you for a disease.
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I think that's a great idea.
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Right.
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I don't think they put forcibly in that bill.
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I don't think so.
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I doubt it.
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And let's imagine that they did.
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Okay.
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Azar could stop it.
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Yes, he could.
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He could just say, I'm not going to give grants to people who do that.
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No.
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Done.
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Problem solved.
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Unless he gets confused by how many sixes there are.
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And if he refused to do that, Trump could fire him and replace him with someone who
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would.
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Absolutely.
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Problem solved.
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Even if your nefarious, evil fucking version of this bill is true, you have the ace of
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spades to play.
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Pretty sure everybody is actually in on it.
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Stupid.
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Everyone's in on it, Dan.
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So tired.
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Yep.
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You know how, like, hotels don't have 13 floors because of the superstitious bullshit?
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Get rid of these bill numbers that are weird.
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Get rid of bill 420.
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Get rid of 666.
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Get rid of 69.
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Just stop it.
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Any number that's fun, get rid of it.
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Every bill is bill 69.
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Bill 69.1.2.3.
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Yeah.
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We got to do something because these dumb dumbs just can't handle things.
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They just cannot deal with it.
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Yep.
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So in this next clip, Alex has found a new coronavirus conspiracy to ramble about.
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And this one is maybe dumber than some of his others.
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The joke is you die of a shark attack, they'll test you.
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And remember, the Tanzanian president is a famous biologist.
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He's invented a lot of stuff.
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He's a top biologist.
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He had a feeling because he knew the UN was paying off the Tanzanian National Clinic.
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So he said, send a goat and a papaya last week to test.
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They both tested COVID-19.
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They test for genetic material.
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That genetic material is in everything that's biological.
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So the president of Tanzania is a man named John Magufuli.
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And there is no sincere person who would ever claim that he is a, quote, top biologist.
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I'm pretty sure he's a top biologist.
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For one, he has a doctorate in chemistry, which is not biology.
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It's pretty much the same thing.
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Nope.
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I have no idea what Alex is claiming he's invented.
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And Alex isn't specific about it, so I'm just going to leave it alone.
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He invented biology.
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Maybe.
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So there's a viral meme that's been going around about Magufuli claiming that he sent
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a sample of a, quote, a quail and a papaya to be tested for COVID-19.
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And they came back positive.
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There's been absolutely no evidence provided to back up his claim.
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And people have been pretty quick to point out that Magufuli is currently facing a great
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deal of pressure over his handling of the virus.
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And this sounds like a whole lot like something someone would say if they were trying to minimize
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a problem they handled poorly.
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Yeah, that does sound familiar.
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So until we get some sort of an evidence of this or maybe someone replicating this in
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a controlled environment, I think it's probably a Tanzanian president talking shit.
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Yeah.
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Also, Alex should definitely not like John Magufuli.
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No, he's great.
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A July 2018 article in the Mail and Guardian discusses Magufuli's government's practice
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of intimidating journalists, with reports of them, quote, being threatened, assaulted,
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and kidnapped.
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Hit with papayas all over the place.
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In 2017, Magufuli began shutting down media operations that were not to his liking, including
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five prominent TV stations and the Swahili language newspaper Mawio.
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He introduced a $920 license that the government required bloggers to obtain to be able to
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post things online, licenses that the government can revoke if the writers post content that
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they disapprove of.
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It's just to protect against fake news, Dan.
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And then there were the threats to have anti-government protesters, quote, beaten like stray dogs
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just for gathering to voice displeasure with the way the government was operating.
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You can't have people starting riots out there, Dan.
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This is for their safety.
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Everything Alex pretends is happening in the U.S. because he's not allowed on Twitter actually
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is happening to journalists and activists in Tanzania.
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He doesn't know any of that shit and he doesn't care.
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This guy came out and said something useful for Alex's narratives about the coronavirus.
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So he's not only a great president, he's also apparently a famous inventor and top biologist.
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Top biologist.
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This is how Alex works.
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No, this shit means anything.
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It takes zero work to go from nothing to top biologist.
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Yeah.
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It takes no work.
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You don't even have to be a biologist.
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You can say something fun for Alex to use.
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And guess what?
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You just got a promotion to top biologist.
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If Alex gave Nobel prizes, there would be a lot of Nobel prizes and no one would get
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one for what they do.
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If you have anything that's helpful to him and you publish it, you're now working for
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a prestigious university.
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Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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Totally.
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Even if you don't work for a university.
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Blog post.
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One of the most prestigious blog posts ever.
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Winner of the Nobel prize in literature.
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Sure.
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There's been some trouble going on in the world of real, the real world as they call
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it.
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Ooh, not a fan.
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With some cases of the virus at meat packing plants.
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Yeah.
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There have been certainly a robust conversation going on about this.
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Alex has a bad take on it.
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Guys, pull up the article and come back.
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Three hundred plus Tyson employees test positive.
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Two thousand employees at a meat packing plant.
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Three hundred plus test positive.
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Not one got a fever.
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Not one had a cough.
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That's called asymptomatic.
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You're so smart.
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Of course they tested positive.
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So smart.
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You had a cold in the last decade.
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You test positive.
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There it is.
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It was three hundred.
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So the two hundred ninety eight workers at Tennessee Tyson plant test positive COVID-19.
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So the story about the three hundred people at a Tyson plant testing positive doesn't
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actually make the argument Alex is claiming it does.
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For one, if the tests just say you're positive if you've had a cold in the last decade or
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whatever, why did only three hundred out of two thousand test positive?
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Introducing the idea that some tests are always being positive and some not is going to be
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an additional layer of conspiracy here that I don't think Alex is ready or able to prove
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at all.
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I'm not positive exactly what plant he's talking about, unfortunately, because there are a
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number of situations similar to this or along these lines.
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Yeah, because everything's great.
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So he's talking about a Tyson plant.
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That's for sure.
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And I should tell you that Business Insider reported on Monday that, quote, at least forty
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five hundred and eighty five Tyson workers in 15 states have been diagnosed with COVID-19
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and 18 have died.
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That's the reality that Alex is spinning into propaganda as a narrative.
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It's pretty important not to lose sight of that.
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These arguments are ghoulish.
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And even if the numbers are accurate, like they don't make the case.
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He thinks they do now.
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It does not make sense.
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Now, these this is insane.
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These people are insane.
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So he said that he's talking about a Tyson plant here.
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But later in the episode, we find out that he thinks it's the same thing as a pork plant
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in Missouri, which isn't run by Tyson.
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This is a story that was about a plant that was run by Triumph Foods.
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And Alex conveniently ignores an update about that story when he covers it.
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And that is that one of the employees who was tested positive, who was a man in his
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40s, is now dead.
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Alex is hanging on the asymptomatic thing here to argue that none of these people are
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actually sick and it's all a charade.
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And I feel like if this guy, who's unidentified in the stories that I found about it, but
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he wants to sue Alex, maybe this might be a fun way to do it.
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Have fun.
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Yep.
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It's possible.
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Join the class action lawsuit that will eventually, I assume, include the entirety of the United
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States of America.
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It seems like there's a possibility of that.
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Don't we all have grounds to sue Alex?
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Three hundred and thirty million co-signing amicus briefs.
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Some of them might be flimsy lawsuits.
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I will say that class action is a little bit light, but why not?
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Might get a slap.
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Alex gets slap suits against everybody in America.
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I think that'd be great.
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So in this next clip, Alex discusses how like, you know, with the virus, all this stuff,
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that is all we need to focus on.
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Sure.
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But unfortunately, that means that other stories get left by the wayside.
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Yes.
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And so he tries to like do a little touch on one of these stories here.
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I think he does it about as badly as you can.
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OK.
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Really, you have to understand that this covered 19 thing is the launch of the new world order
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take off.
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So everything else is just a side issue.
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I mean, in Georgia.
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The original police report said that somebody had been robbed.
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Oh, no, no, taking fishing equipment, stealing four wheelers, this dude went into the house
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and they saw him and then they got in a fistfight with him and they shot the guy.
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I think that's too much lethal force and I wouldn't have done it, but that's what happens
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when people look like they're robbing houses and the media is trying to make a race war
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out of this.
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Well, I think these guys need to go to prison for what they did.
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Probably not.
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Because the guy took swings at him.
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So Alex is absolutely fudging some of the details here in the case of the shooting of Ahmad
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Arbery.
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It seems like a lot of white nationalists are fudging details around this one.
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So the way Alex is presenting this, if you didn't know what he was talking about, it
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kind of sounds like he's describing a police shooting of somebody who they thought was
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suspected of breaking into houses.
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That's not the case.
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In reality, Arbery was shot by Travis McMichael, whose dad used to be a cop, but is not anymore.
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McMichael and his dad chased down Arbery, who they decided was a suspect for break-ins
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that had happened in the neighborhood.
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This was not excessive lethal force being used by police.
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It was a murder that is being justified by appeals to racism.
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In the police report, the elder McMichael claimed that he saw Arbery out jogging and
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decided that he must be a burglar.
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This makes sense, considering that he wasn't carrying anything, he was in jogging clothes,
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and it was broad daylight.
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From the report, quote, McMichael stated the unidentified male began to violently attack
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Travis and the two men then started fighting over the shotgun, at which point Travis fired
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a shot and then a second later there was a second shot.
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This story is contradicted by video that has been released of the altercation, which clearly
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shows Arbery trying to jog around the McMichael's truck, at which point a shot is fired.
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Immediately after that, you see Travis McMichael outside the truck in a bit of a lockup with
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Arbery, after which there are two more shots.
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The varying timeline of events and number of shots between McMichael's version of the
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story and the video is something that I find particularly troubling.
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And the fact that McMichael is a former cop leads me to believe that he should have, you
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know, a lot of training in the field of reporting events.
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It's one thing for a random person in the heat of the moment to get some major details
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wrong.
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That does happen.
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It's something else entirely for a former cop to get basic details of an event wrong.
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It is shocking that a cop would get basic details of an event wrong when they use deadly
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force.
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That's so surprising.
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So Arbery was killed on February 23rd, and there was no arrest until May 7th.
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Then, on May 9th, a video was released that appeared to show Arbery walking up to a house
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under construction, looking around, then leaving.
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This video has been used by all the, well, let's call them racists, to argue that Arbery
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had it coming, and that the McMichaels were well within their rights to kill him.
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Personally, I've done way worse things at construction sites, and no one ever killed
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me over it.
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I'll say that, full disclosure.
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Growing up in the Midwest, I think there might be a fairly common experience of fucking around
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on construction sites.
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Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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I was really hoping he wouldn't talk about this one, because it seems -
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Yeah.
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They just talk about it much, to be fair.
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Yeah, that's good.
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That's good.
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Because this one is very much a simple litmus test for whether or not you're a giant flaming
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racist.
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I think...
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Uh, yeah.
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So, the argument seems to be that because Arbery looked around a house under construction,
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the McMichaels had probable cause to do a citizen's arrest, but that doesn't really
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make sense.
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They didn't actually see him commit any crimes, so that would be pretty flimsy defense here,
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I think.
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It easily makes sense, you know, as a curious person, looking around while maybe in a cooldown
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on their jog becomes proof of criminality in this case, and it's hard not to think that
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a racial component has something to do with that.
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Even if the McMichaels weren't acting from a place of racism, the people bending over
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backwards to defend them - people like Milly Weaver - certainly are.
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Ooh, so much.
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This is a horrible tragedy, and there is a new investigation going on into the matter,
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and we'll see what happens with that.
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For now, I want you to take note of how Alex discusses this case, and compare it to how
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he spent month after month yelling about how Katie Steinle was murdered because she was
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white, and the immigrant couldn't stand that he couldn't be with her.
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Think about how Alex promoted rallies against immigration in the name of Steinle, and sent
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Owen Schroyer out to cover them.
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It's important to recognize these differences, because they are the places you see Alex's
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racism on full display.
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He's too savvy to say the n-word or talk about hating non-white people openly, but you can
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see clearly how differently he engages with situations depending on the races involved.
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If there's a case of a non-white person accidentally discharging a gun and the bullet ricochets
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and hits a white woman, it's a case of a brutal murder that was done because the victim was
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white.
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If there's a case of two white men chasing down a black man they've decided is a criminal
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then shooting him, it's a situation where Alex wouldn't have done it himself, but they
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didn't do anything wrong because the guy took a swing.
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This is how his racism is on full display.
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He's too smart to make it too obvious.
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I condemn the way they did it, but was it illegal?
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That's for the courts to disarm.
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So when Alex is like, you can never provide proof that I'm a racist, I suggest this is
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all the proof anyone should ever need.
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Ever.
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Ever.
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This is such a simple fucking thing, and the fact that it's all out in the open niche is
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disqualified.
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It's a mess.
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The person who says anything other than that he was murdered by two fucking modern lynchers
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is a racist.
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The end.
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So, Alex, I don't know if you remember this, but since the coronavirus situation has popped
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up, a number of times Alex has seen videos and he has decided that shit's real.
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Because they are.
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You just know it.
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100%.
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Your spirit knows it.
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It's in your gut, Dan.
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So Alex has been tricked by another hoax.
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And in trials already of COVID-19 in New Guinea, where you get the term guinea pig, no joke,
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they've already had on the local news.
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They come in, they inject the children and the women and they just start convulsing and
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dying everywhere.
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So that's not true.
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Alex has seen some videos that are making the rounds online that purported to show quote
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the aftermath of a deadly COVID-19 vaccination trial in New Guinea.
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This was a video, simply put, it was a fraud.
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Someone took already existing video of people in New Guinea protesting after some children
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had allegedly gotten sick from a vaccine and they claimed this footage was related to research
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and testing of a new COVID-19 vaccine.
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And what year was that footage from?
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Well, the actual video was from March 2019 on a news station called Gangaam.
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The actual news report was about a community displeasure after a few children experienced
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mild side effects like dizziness and fever after being in a quote drug treatment program
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to reduce the prevalence and intensity of the parasitic infection schistomyosis, also
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known as snail fever.
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Gangaam's editor in chief, Sekou Jamal Pandessa told Reuters, quote, the editorial staff of
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the Gangaam RTV group notes with deep regret that some internet users have been allowing
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themselves since Monday, April 6th, 2020, to use one of our old reports to make people
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believe that there in recent days, cases of discomfort due to a vaccination campaign in
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schools in Dubreka.
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We would like to point out that the report was produced on March 18th, 2019.
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We invite you to refrain from such games during the sensitive period marked by a global health
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crisis.
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This makes me think, like I said, of all the times Alex has said he just knows when he
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sees a video, if it's real or not, he just knows the spirit knows.
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Here's the reality spirit doesn't know shit.
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He's a lazy propagandist and he falls for hoaxes like this regularly, which he then
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reports to his audience as fact because he wants to.
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They conform to his narratives and thus they feel true to him.
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The problem is none of it's real.
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It's really frustrating that it is an airtight defense to say they're doing what we're doing
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while you're doing it.
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Like it really because all the time he's like, oh, they're sending out all these hoax videos
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and all of this shit is all fake and the media is all liars and all that shit and all he
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ever does is, well, but then he's like, well, they're, we're only doing it because they're
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doing it.
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To be fair, I would be perfectly comfortable assuming that Alex has no idea this is fake.
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Oh yeah, no, I would, I would be like, I don't know if this is craft or just him being an
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idiot because I mean the end result would ultimately be the same.
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He would record it like this for sure.
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Whether you know, whether he's deceitful, I mean, he obviously is deceitful, right?
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Right, right, right.
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This, this could easily just be something he saw on a, like a headline on some dumb
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site that he, uh, he goes around.
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It's like, oh my God, I can't believe New Guinea.
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Yeah.
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What, what is frustrating is also that it doesn't matter if it's true or not.
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Well, that's true.
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Not to him.
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Also New Guinea has nothing to do with Guinea pigs.
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Uh, New Guinea was, you know, it is, uh, uh, is an island in a, it's north of Australia
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in Micronesia.
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Guinea pigs are likely named for their association with Guinea, an old name for the area in Africa
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around the Gulf of Guinea.
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Uh, and in the 15 hundreds, Guinea was a pretty general term that would be used to describe
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exotic far off places across the sea.
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There's no real consensus among scholars about exactly how the Guinea pig got its name, but
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one thing that absolutely no one thinks is that it has anything to do with New Guinea.
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This is just another thing that Alex is making up to sound smart for his audience, but it's
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based on nothing.
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And that clip, you heard him report on a hoax video as real, then make up a piece of trivia
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about Guinea pigs, which is standard operation for him.
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Yeah.
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Nothing means anything.
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Yeah.
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That one, that one really, that one really got me.
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That one really got me when you just opened with in New Guinea where Guinea pigs are from.
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So confidently, so confident because he wants the association to be like, you do tests on
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Guinea pigs.
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Of course.
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No, no, no.
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The math is simple.
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Right?
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That's, that's a real frustrating, everything about this is very angry.
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Yeah.
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So Alex, he knows, right?
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Yes.
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He knows that there are a bunch of studies that prove that vaccines lower your immunity,
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right?
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Right.
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Now he knows that there are.
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Okay.
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But there aren't.
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And now he's really confused because he sat down to try and find those studies and now
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he can't.
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So therefore they must be being taken offline.
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That's the wrong conclusion.
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And they play all these games.
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What's crazy is used to, you could type in studies show vaccines, lower immunity the
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next year, all those are gone.
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I spent an hour today while my children play with my wife in the pool, I wanted to be out
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there, but I had to find the articles and I went and found three big studies from just
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a few years ago about it, lowering immunity, but folks, I had to go 50 pages deep.
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I had to find old articles and link through it's all nothing, but there is no side effects.
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Vaccines are perfect.
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No one ever got hurt.
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They're totally good.
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It's all lies.
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Just, and all these fake doctors and their little, you know, lab coats when I say fake
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or fake people, you know, in their, in their little outfits telling you, oh, vaccines are
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perfect.
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There's no side effects.
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It's wonderful.
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Oh my God.
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It's the worst pandemic on earth.
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All this emotional crap.
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You complaining about these doctors being fake people, fake doctors, where guinea pigs
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are from.
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I think that has to be like a clarification.
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He's like, I'm not saying they're actors, not saying they're actors, not saying they're
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actors.
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They're not even real.
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Oh, God damn it.
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What am I doing?
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They're just not on the level, man.
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What does that even mean?
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I don't know.
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That's how you describe like a friend.
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He's a real guy.
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He's a real, real friend.
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Not doctors.
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Oh man.
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I'm sick of all these fake doctors out here.
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They act like they're your friend.
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You hang out with them and then you find out the next week they've been talking shit about
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you with their other real friends.
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Fake ass doctors.
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God damn fake doctors.
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So this is pretty difficult for me because Alex claims that he found all these studies
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that he used to be able to find really easily, but now it takes him forever.
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But he also didn't post any of them on his website or provide literally any indication
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of how you're supposed to go and find them yourself.
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Because of that, I really don't know what claims Alex is making or what to go on.
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In searching Infowars website, there's a number of articles about immunity issues and vaccines,
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many of which are just things that Robert Kennedy Jr. wrote and Alex is reposting.
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In these cases, the claim of weakened immune systems has to do with vaccinating children
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and the assertion that this quote, so badly weakened their immune system that they were
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dying in droves from unrelated infections.
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That doesn't sound true.
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This is based on a 2017 study published on e-biomedicine, which taken at face value,
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claims that children studied had a five times higher mortality if they had received the
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diphtheria tetanus pertussis vaccine compared to unvaccinated children.
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These were children vaccinated between 1984 and 1987, so this isn't even a study about
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the currently used DTP vaccine, but leaving that aside, there are some problems with this
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study that folks have pointed out, which make its conclusion not entirely reliable.
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The first is that the study involves a very small sample group.
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There were only 1,057 children total in the study, which is not enough to generalize conclusions
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about vaccine effectiveness or side effects on.
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The biggest problem, however, is that there's nothing in the study that actually shows that
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any of the children's deaths had anything to do with the vaccine.
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These are all-cause death numbers, which means that the deaths could have been from drowning
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or some other accident and they'd still be factored into the rates, and this makes the
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conclusions very difficult to apply generally.
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Other studies have not come to the same conclusion, and the argument that vaccines lower your
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immunity to things other than what the vaccine is targeting has been pretty roundly rejected
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by science.
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A 2018 report in JAMA, quote, found no statistically significant differences in the level of immunity
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against non-vaccine targeted infections between their control and experimental groups.
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Yeah, of course.
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That might be what Alex is talking about, but I'm only guessing based on what's on his
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website.
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Yeah, yeah.
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There's another argument about vaccines lowering immunity that unsurprisingly comes from Andrew
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Wakefield.
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This one is basically that when you use vaccines, you put part of your immune response into
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hyper action while the other part is not used and thus is weakened.
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The basic gist here is that he's saying that you get better immunity by dealing with things
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naturally, so you should get measles if you want to be immune to it, and if you take a
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shortcut of vaccines, it'll hurt your cell-mediated response-related immunity.
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This is nonsense and no one in the medical field takes it seriously.
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Yeah, that sounds like magic.
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Sincerely, I'm not sure what precise claim Alex is trying to make, but in trying to sort
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it out, it's not too hard to find two separate similar ideas, which are both bullshit, being
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pushed by luminaries of the anti-vax propaganda world, which are very easily debunked ideas.
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Vaccines do not lower your immunity and no one is taking studies off the internet.
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Alex can't find these studies because they probably weren't there to begin with.
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I imagine he just read some headlines 10 years ago and then kept yelling about it and eventually
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embellished it into being a prestigious study from the most reputable journal known to man
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man, and now when he goes and tries to find it, shockingly nothing comes up.
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That seems to be what's going on.
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Yeah, that does have the feel of somebody being like, I have, okay, okay, fine.
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You know what?
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I'm actually going to prove it this time.
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I've been screaming about vaccines lowering your immunity for forever, so fuck you.
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I'm going to look it up and I'll find it, and I can't find it.
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Because they got rid of it.
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It must be because everybody's stealing it.
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Because the man, the globalists took it down.
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It's got to be because they're hiding it now.
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You know how the internet famously allows people to hide things.
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Yeah, they love it.
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But look, man, they're not letting you get this vaccine info.
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They're trying to get rid of this.
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They want the consumers to not have the information they need.
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They're brainwashing it.
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Alex has an amazing comparison to make.
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Wonderful.
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Mike down for this.
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And now they're just not letting consumers have info.
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It is beyond T.S. Lewis's The Jungle, the level of abuse of the citizens, the level
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of the abuse of consumers.
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I want to be sure everyone could hear that.
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There's no author named T.S. Lewis.
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It's probably a fun combination of T.S.
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Eliot and C.S. Lewis, whereas the name Alex is trying to come up with is...
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Is Upton Sinclair.
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Yeah.
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Kind of makes sense that Alex doesn't remember that dude's name though, seeing as Upton Sinclair
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is a gigantic socialist.
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He's not a huge fan.
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It's always fun to pretend to be into someone's book, but also believe that everything that
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motivated their life's work is devilry, and thus The Jungle was written by T.S. Lewis.
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Hey, everybody knows that even a blind squirrel finds the occasional nut, Dan, you know?
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Weird.
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So, Alex, this next clip is one of the reasons that, I mean, I hadn't heard this episode
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when we put out our episode on Monday where Project Camelot talked to a super soldier,
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but if you listen to this, you kind of understand why I feel like that sort of stuff does fit
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into the body of our work.
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One of the born supremacy movies, The Origin, when I forget the name of it, is very accurate
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and got into some really secretive research that's been going on since the 70s, but it's
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now public that they can have viruses that are tailored to only eat certain receptors
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in the brain, and they do tests on these to eat the receptors that, say, you have a governor
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where you can really bench press 1,000 pounds, but you can only bench press 400 pounds, or
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you can really squat 2,000 pounds, but you're a weightlifter, you think you can't, so you
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can only squat 700, and so it turns, so now you're superhuman.
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Okay.
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So, Alex basically believes that there's research that he can make super soldiers.
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Yeah, absolutely.
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I'm not sure what secret research Alex imagines he's going on as revealed in these movies,
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but I want to talk a little bit about the real world research on the subject he's talking
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about that kind of shows what he's talking about to be childish nonsense.
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There's a phenomenon known as hysterical strength, where archetypally, you know, it's presented
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as someone raising up a car to save someone who's trapped underneath.
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It's the idea that in moments of severe need, we find ourselves capable of doing things
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we didn't realize we were capable of.
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Naturally, this is something that's almost impossible to study in a controlled setting.
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How could you reliably create the conditions that would be needed to produce this response
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in a person while controlling for other variables?
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Basically, you can't, but researchers who work with muscles kind of understand the basic
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idea without needing to trap a test subject's loved one under a car.
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No, no.
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You're punked.
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Okay?
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What you do, because you can't let them in that it's an experiment, otherwise they'll
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know that their kid isn't actually in danger.
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I don't know if science is going to let Ashton Kutcher...
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Oh, yeah.
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You get Ashton Kutcher to run kids over with cars, and then we go from there.
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I think that's one, a brilliant TV idea, and two, a great way to run experiments.
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Scientists who work with muscles understand this stuff.
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For instance, you use exactly as much muscle as you need to open your fridge, but if you're
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doing something that requires more, your body adjusts to it.
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If you're carrying a bunch of groceries up a flight of stairs, your muscles allocate
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more to suit those needs.
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From an article in the BBC, quote, estimates vary, but researchers have pegged the amount
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of muscle mass recruited during maximal exercise at around 60%.
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Even elite athletes who have trained to get more output from their musculature might only
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harness around 80% of their theoretical strength.
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Why do we keep so much in reserve?
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Safety, essentially.
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If we were to exert our muscles to or beyond their absolute maximum, we could tear muscle
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tissue, ligaments, tendons, and break bones, leaving us in dire straits.
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That governor in your brain is there because if you were allowed to expend all the available
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energy your body has to use, you'd probably have died long ago, or at very least you'd
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be completely debilitated due to all the bodily damage you would have suffered.
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The people who are lifting cars are only lifting a small part of the car, while two or three
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wheels remain on the ground distributing the weight, plus their bodies are full of adrenaline
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and the state of shock will generally dull any pain that they might be feeling from the
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heavier lift, and even so, they probably feel pretty fucking sore afterwards.
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These parts of your brain can be overridden, you know, like that governor, like in cases
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when you're trying to escape certain death.
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Your brain realizes that in order to stay alive, higher risks need to be taken.
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On the other side of that coin, this part of your brain also appears to be overridden
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when you're on meth or PCP, which may play a role in explaining the seemingly heightened
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strength of people on those drugs.
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In each of these cases, however, you're gonna be pretty fucked up on the other side of doing
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whatever it is, free of this governor in your brain.
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That part of your brain's there for a reason.
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Yeah, it usually helps out whenever you survive, you know, long after, instead of just in the
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immediate.
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You do a bunch of meth and you do like these crazy feats of strength, when you come down,
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you're gonna be in so much pain.
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There are no consequences for actions, Dan, how dare you?
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If there's some kind of a magical thing that allows super soldiers like Jason Bourne to
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use more of his strength than normal people's brains allow them to, he could maybe operate
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on the level of an elite athlete.
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If a person, like a human person, were to do what Alex is imagining, their bodies would
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not be able to handle it.
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They're just physiological realities that he's pretending do not exist.
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The way I would put it is this.
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If your life is at risk, you could jump down a big drop, break your ankle, and then run
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a mile to safety.
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But when you get to safety, your ankle is still gonna be broken, and it's gonna hurt
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like hell because you just ran a mile on it.
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Also, I don't even think-
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But then again, what the fuck do I know?
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I haven't watched this Bourne movie, or as Alex puts it, read up on secret research.
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Maybe I'm just a fucking dumb-dumb.
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I don't even remember, I don't think the Bourne movies featured super soldier strength or
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anything like that.
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He was just really, really well trained, and they gave him some psychotropic drugs, but
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he was really, really good at being a spy or whatever.
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That was it.
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In new languages or something.
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Yeah.
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It's more just like, look at what happens when you're really competent.
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That's cool.
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I don't know.
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I can't speak to it because I haven't seen those movies, but I'm sure that whatever.
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Alex got something out of it, so that's great.
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You can't have your brain drop that governor without consequences, first of all.
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Second of all, there is a ceiling to it.
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I don't know.
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This is all just fantastical thinking, and it's ludicrous.
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So Alex, one of his big ideas is this predictive programming stuff, right?
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The globalists will put stuff on TV that they're going to do later.
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Exactly, like Bonanza.
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Sometimes it has to do with, they need to get your permission, right?
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Of course.
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Spiritually.
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There is that.
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They have to tell you what they're going to do or else there's a karmic debt they have
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to pay in the afterlife or something.
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Just like with Carrie, who believes that you can only get sick if you allow the virus in.
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Sometimes there's a metaphysical aspect to it, and then sometimes it's presented as trying
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to desensitize you to what they're going to do to make it easier.
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This next clip begins with Alex talking about the predictive programming on that level,
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the desensitizing level.
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Then Alex loses his mind and starts screaming about his grandpa.
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That I believe.
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Psychologists and psychiatrists know at the high levels, not your pop psychologists and
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psychiatrists, that if you pre-program somebody and they've seen something in the comfort
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of their home, that a decade later, when they actually see it happen, they'll be comfortable
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with it because they were eating chips and pizza and having sex with their girlfriend
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while they learned about something horrible.
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So their brain files in an area that's non-threatening.
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That's why my dad's dad saw a lot of combat in World War II.
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And they'd be in a movie when he was a little kid that had violence, he'd say, we're leaving.
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It wasn't because he couldn't handle violence.
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He'd seen a bunch of violence and starving people and arms and legs blown off.
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He didn't think it was funny.
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But when you've never seen real violence and you see a bunch of simulated murder, your
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brain starts thinking it's funny because your brain didn't pay any consequence for it.
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So now when you're hit with the real thing, you don't know what hit you.
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So first of all, I'm going to need to see Alex's citation on this stuff from the high
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end psychologists who are not pop psychologists.
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I'll review his information when he tells me what he's actually talking about and where
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it's coming from in any meaningful way.
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Beyond that, that clip is fascinating because I really think it highlights how poorly Alex's
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brain tracks ideas.
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It begins with him claiming that they're these high end non-pop psychologists who, you know,
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they know that if you see something on TV and then you encounter it later, your brain
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will associate it with the memory of being at home with pizza, so you'll see it as good.
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I can definitely tell you that that is not true from my personal experience in the last
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few weeks.
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I've seen people get hit by cars a fuck ton in movies and TV shows, sometimes dramas and
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sometimes played for humor.
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It doesn't affect me that much in a movie.
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When I was walking to the store the other day, a driver turning right didn't see me
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when I had the walk signal and I was legit seconds away from getting run over.
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I heard the car accelerating and the split second as my brain was putting it all together,
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you know, is definitely not what I would call associated with being at home eating pizza.
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My reaction was quite different.
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Though I'd seen people get hit by cars many times in fiction, this was very different
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because it was in real life and my adrenaline rushed as I was considering jumping on the
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hood or trying to dive backwards.
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Thankfully, the driver saw me at the last second, hit the brakes, you know, and nothing
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happened, but as I was walking the next block, my body was full of that rush you get after
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encountering danger.
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Being exposed to those things on TV and movies did not have a desensitizing effect on me,
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primarily because I know the difference between real life and movies.
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From this idea, Alex pivots to talking about his grandfather, who didn't want his children
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to watch violent things in movies and TV because he'd been in World War II.
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An argument could be made that this is the exact opposite of the point Alex was trying
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to make.
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He is saying that seeing X on TV desensitizes you to X in real life, whereas in this example,
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Alex's grandfather saw X in real life and it made him hypersensitive to seeing it or
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his kids seeing it on TV.
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Whether or not this hypersensitivity was driven by a fear that the children would become desensitized
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to violence, that's another matter, but even if it is the case, this is still a pretty
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shitty example for Alex to come up with because it's thematically disconnected from the point
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he's trying to make.
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From there, Alex makes the jump to arguing that if you see simulated violence on TV and
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you think it's funny, so you think that murder is funny in real life.
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He then weirdly claims that this is because you didn't see any consequences for the fictional
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violence you saw on TV, which is weird, that's bizarre.
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I don't know who he's hanging out with to get the idea that a large number of people
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think real murder is funny, but that's a foreign concept to me, someone who almost exclusively
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hangs out with and communicates with people who have seen simulated violence on TV and
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don't think it's real.
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Did you at least say, I'm walking here?
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I didn't.
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No.
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It's a huge wasted opportunity.
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Most people intuitively understand the difference between reality and fictional portrayals of
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things and instinctively they react differently to them.
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The same person who could tolerate seeing the depiction of a murder in a horror movie
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or even enjoy it in the context of the movie would react completely differently if they
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saw something similar in the real world.
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It would not be the same thing.
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Do you remember Meet Joe Black whenever Brad Pitt's character gets hit by like 12 different
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cars all at the same time and it's played for laughs like they're, it's the weirdest
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scene in a movie that I think I've ever seen like Meet Joe, Brad Pitt and what's-her-face
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like longingly look back at each other, each expecting the other one to look back and it
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goes back and forth like four different times and then Brad Pitt just walks into oncoming
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traffic and gets hit once, bounces up in the air, gets hit again by another car, bounces
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up in the air, continues getting hit like three or four times and then the scene is
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basically over and they just move on.
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I have not seen that movie in a long time.
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You've seen the GIF or?
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I'm sure I have.
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Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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And it did not affect the way I responded to almost getting hit by a car because reality
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and movies are different.
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Wouldn't it be fun if you bounced up and down and then the spiritual embodiment of death
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took over your body for a while and wooed your paramour?
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That's ridiculous.
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Oh, okay.
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So there are some studies that suggest that there is a desensitization effect that violent
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media can have on children and adolescents, but the extent of its effect is almost impossible
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to pin down precisely.
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Consider for a second how you would even go about trying to set up that study ethically,
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like to really track that.
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Ashton Kutcher.
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No.
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Oh, okay.
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Sorry.
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There are some correlations that people have found, but they're a far cry from the effect
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that Alex seems to think that movies and TV have on a random person.
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He's acting like if you see a bomb go off in a movie and you encounter a bomb in your
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daily life, you're like, oh, it's like that movie.
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Cool.
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The bomb.
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Yeah.
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That's why they make people laugh.
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I've seen this before and I survived because it was a movie.
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Yeah.
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No, this is just video games desensitize children and yeah, this is such bullshit.
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But it's not just that.
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Right.
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Right.
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Right.
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Right.
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Alex's brain operates differently than most people and he just doesn't seem to recognize
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the distinction between fiction and reality.
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He seems to be like, it seems to be something he is unwilling or unable to differentiate
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between.
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Yeah.
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There's no, there's no blend.
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I do think that he doesn't realize that this is something that most people can differentiate
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since his confusion around why other people can't see what he sees does seem genuine.
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That frustration he's, he manifests does seem like someone who's like, it's so clear to
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me.
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Why don't you get it?
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Yeah.
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And, and that is, that is wild to me.
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The, um, it.
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Don't you get it?
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The hammers can fly now, Dan.
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You just call them to you and the hammer will come directly to you whenever you need it.
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I'm honestly starting to work on a little bit of a pet theory that this is one of the
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more like a strongly correlating things throughout these conspiracy worlds.
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The inability or unwillingness to differentiate between reality and fiction runs so strongly
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on info wars, many of the associated people, uh, and, uh, project Camelot and the quote
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unquote experts they have, it's, it seems to be, uh, one of the defining characteristics.
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So Alex has that rant and, uh, it leads to, uh, how we end the 10th and of course it's
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familiar territory.
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Your brain starts thinking it's funny because your brain didn't pay any consequence for
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it.
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So now when you're hit with the real thing, you don't know what hit you.
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You're all dead unless you wake up to the scientific dictatorship that created Hitler
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face of this.
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You laughed over him saying, I need money to go straight into an ad, straight into an
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ad.
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So, uh, we, we wrap up the 10th Sunday show in the books all over the goddamn place, which
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I kind of appreciate on some levels.
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I mean, some of the stuff like I'd rather him not talk about like a mod arbery rather
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you just leave that alone, Alex.
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You're not allowed.
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Yeah.
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Um, but then like, you know, Viking funerals, pretty fun.
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Uh, Alex's weird, uh, fiction reality, new Guinea, like some of this stuff for Hitler.
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Sure.
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Yeah.
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That's kind of fun to, to learn a little bit about.
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And we jump in on the 11th and boy, this day, I'll tell you what, Alex has a goal in mind.
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If you're a radio listener, well, you're not having to look at me right now, but I am wearing
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the Bill Gates uniform, uh, that now Mark Zuckerberg wears.
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It is a pink cashmere sweater with a white collared shirt to look like Mr. Rogers or
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to look non-threatening.
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I've said it many times that if Hitler wore a pink uniform, he would have won the war
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because he would have looked non-threatening.
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This is really funny on a number of levels.
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Uh, the first is that Alex decided this Bill Gates wears pink bit was so good that he decided
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to wear a pink sweater on air himself so he could riff about it.
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That'll teach him.
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I kinda can't help but think he's hoping people online make fun of him so he can be all over
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Twitter again.
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Oh yeah.
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The second part that's hilarious here is that Alex is saying that if Hitler wore pink, he'd
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be non-threatening.
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Alex claims to be a military historian, but somehow he doesn't realize that the US Army
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officer's winter service uniform, starting in the 1920s through 1958, was known as the,
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quote, pink and greens.
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The US Army officer uniform during that very time that they were fighting against Hitler
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literally had pink in the name of him.
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And that's why we won the war, Dan!
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Sergeant Dan Dailey told Military.com that the uniform was called that because, quote,
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one of the sets of pants had a pink hue to them.
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Oh, that's nice.
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Anyway, the point here is that Alex is a complete buffoon and he doesn't know anything about
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the topics he's talking about.
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He's just, I love it.
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I love the idea that his operation's so fucking incompetent that he's like, you know what,
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I'm gonna wear fucking pink.
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Yeah.
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And it's gonna be amazing.
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Everyone's gonna love it.
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Everybody's gonna love this shit.
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It's gonna be, it's gonna-
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It's gonna be a wildfire.
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I'm gonna blow minds.
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Look at me!
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I'm gonna blow minds!
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Look at me!
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Alex Jones wearing pink!
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Everyone will lose their minds over this!
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And so I thought maybe it's just like, alright, he's gonna touch on this and then he's gonna
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get out of business.
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Nope.
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And as I've always said, if Hitler wore a pink uniform, he would have won World War
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II because people would have bowed down and said, somebody wearing pink is nothing but
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good.
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That's why Bill and Melinda Gates always wear pink in public.
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That's why Mark Zuckerberg's gotten rid of his characteristic gray or black t-shirt and
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he now wears pink sweaters under his mentor, Bill Gates.
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I was curious about the claim that Bill Gates always wears pink, so I decided to consult
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Google image search.
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I took the first 100 images of Gates that came up and here's how his wardrobe breaks
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down.
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Here we go.
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In 56 of the images, Gates is in a suit.
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There's a number of recent pictures of him in a sweater that I wouldn't call pink.
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It's more of a lavender shade of purple, but I could see Alex thinking it was too feminine
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and yelling pink at me.
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Yeah, it might as well be pink.
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Might as well be.
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Yeah.
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There are exactly two pictures of Gates in a pink sweater and they are both from his
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2015 TED Talk about how we aren't ready for the next pandemic that we might face.
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At least one of these is from a site that's heavily trying to insinuate that this is proof
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of a conspiracy, which makes me think that Alex might just be seeing a bunch of bullshit
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conspiracy blogs posting a picture from Gates' five-year-old TED Talk, which is him making
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Alex think that he's constantly wearing a pink sweater.
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As for Zuckerberg, I have no idea where Alex saw him wearing a pink sweater, but I also
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don't care.
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This is just a super weird hangup Alex has about men wearing colors he thinks are feminine.
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We better pray that he never finds out that Trump wore a pink striped tie to the coronavirus
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press conference back on May 5th or that Trump sells a bunch of different pink ties.
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Nah, they're not that, but they're manly pink ties, Dan.
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They're the MAGA pink, which is a different hue.
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I understand.
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So anyway, I'm just glad that Alex has gotten this out of his system and we can move on
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to other issues.
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Warren Buffett more and more wears pink shirts and almost always poses with an ice cream
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cone.
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Look, ice cream cone.
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It's like, oh, ice cream, he's like a little boy.
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He's like a little child.
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He doesn't launder hundreds of billions in drug money, got caught doing it in 2010.
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So this obsession with men wearing pink has got to stop.
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This is too much.
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If we've reached the point where Alex thinks good, compelling content is just naming off
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his enemies and discussing the nefarious implications of what they're wearing recently, this show
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is past its expiration date.
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This is not hard hitting stuff.
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Also just for fun, I tried to find pictures of Ron Paul wearing pink shirts and it was
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super easy.
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Same for Nigel Farage.
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I will say that I couldn't find any pictures of Yair Bolsonaro in pink, but that totally
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makes sense since he's as invested in performative masculinity as Alex is.
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It shouldn't surprise anyone to hear that Warren Buffett is almost always photographed
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in a suit.
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It's kind of his thing.
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Well, you know, I can't find any pictures of him wearing pink outside of the possibility
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of some pink dress shirt in a suit or possibly a pink tie.
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Also, he doesn't get photographed all the time with ice cream, but he definitely has
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a few times and the reason isn't to make him look like a fun, innocent child.
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It's because Berkshire Hathaway, the holding company that he owns, owns Dairy Queen.
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I was going to say, yeah, it's so obvious.
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It's so fucking obvious.
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It's the most ridiculously obvious thing that you can think of.
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But the only reason that he bought Dairy Queen is so later on in life, he could fucking broadcast
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a predictive program.
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No, because it was a good deal.
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Broadcasting the...
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No.
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Also, Warren Buffett didn't get caught money laundering in 2010, but there is a real thing
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here that Alex is misrepresenting.
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In 2010, the DEA conducted and concluded a 22-month investigation that had uncovered
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billions of dollars that had been laundered by drug cartels through Wachovia Bank, which
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by that point in 2010 had been bought by Wells Fargo, of which Berkshire Hathaway is the
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fifth largest shareholder.
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Wells Fargo didn't acquire Wachovia until 2008, so this is definitely a pre-existing
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issue to Berkshire's involvement with the bank.
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There is definitely some shady shit going on with Wachovia, particularly during the
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2004-2007 timeframe, but to imagine that somehow Warren Buffett was involved in that is ludicrous.
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Alex is just desperate to lash out at his imagined enemies to the point where he'll
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just outright make false accusations, because he's been trained that there are no consequences
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for that.
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Buffett is too busy to sue Alex for this clear instance of defamation, and Alex knows it.
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There's just enough reality to the story that Wachovia did get in trouble for laundering
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drug money in 2010, and Alex knows that his listeners will find a headline about that
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and decide that Alex's story about it is true.
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He's just the most pampered of radio personalities when you get right down to it.
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He has the easiest fucking job imaginable.
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Too frustrating and time-consuming to sue him, and just a trained audience full of people
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who will just be like, oh, he is right, I saw a headline.
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I think people would not appreciate our show if we just listed people and talked about
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what they wore.
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Although, we might want to consider it, because I think it would be easier.
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Oh, you're right.
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You're right.
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I could spend a lot more time coming up with marinades.
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Just Google Image Search different people, and look, Mitch McConnell, he wore that thing,
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so he's, yeah, that proves it, and he's got sevens on his stuff, and that's obviously
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the market.
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Devil.
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The Unbeast, or whatever it is.
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The real devil.
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Oh, God.
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They want you to think it's six, it's actually sevens.
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Yeah, the greatest trick the devil ever pulled was figuring out numbers.
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Right.
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So, Alex has another story here to get into.
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Thankfully, it has nothing to do with the color pink.
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I was getting a little tired of that.
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It's time for green.
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Nope.
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San Antonio passed a law last Thursday saying you'll be arrested if you say Chinese virus.
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They said because the WHO says it doesn't come from China, and I guess the WHO could
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say the moon is made of cheese, so...
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Haha.
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So, last week, the San Antonio City Council passed a resolution that just roundly denounced
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the use of the terms Chinese virus and kung fu virus as being racist.
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At no point in the resolution does it say you'll be arrested for using those terms.
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It's really more just a declaration of a commitment to protect the safety and dignity of the Asian
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residents of the city.
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Alex doesn't bring this up here, but there's also a bit in this resolution about anti-Semitism,
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which has been mocked by a bunch of people on the extreme right wing.
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They feign ignorance and pretend that the city council's just crazy.
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How's saying Chinese virus anti-Semitic?
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These loony left wing safe space nuts are out of control.
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And the resolution perfectly spells that out if you actually read it.
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Reading is hard for them, though.
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In the preamble to the resolution, they include, quote, whereas the Jewish community has been
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targeted with blame, hate, anti-Semitic tropes, and conspiracy theories about their creating,
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spreading, and profiting from COVID-19.
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The city council was making a point of calling out the nature of propaganda surrounding COVID-19
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which is good.
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But it also opens the door to the very people relying on those anti-Semitic tropes and conspiracy
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theories to play dumb and pretend they don't get the point.
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But they're always going to do that anyway.
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Man, my birthday, the first thing my dad texted me that morning was -
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Oh, happy birthday, by the way.
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Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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He, like, legit, like, hey, how you doing with the kung flu?
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And I texted him back, I was like, I would appreciate it if you didn't use that.
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Not a great present.
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Yeah, thanks.
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Happy birthday.
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Like, that fucked up my whole day.
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I'm sure.
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Like, it really fucked me up.
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That's a bummer.
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And I was like, please don't.
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I would appreciate that you didn't do that.
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And then he texted back, it is what it is, and I have not spoken to him since then.
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Wow.
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Yikes.
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Like, I spent in my head all day writing this whole, like, the only reason that you associate
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diseases with a certain group of people is to set the groundwork for a pogrom later on.
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And I just -
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Or just some kind of stigmatization.
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Yeah, there's just no way to deal with it.
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Yeah.
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I'm sorry to hear that.
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I'm sorry to hear that.
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Yeah, no.
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It's fucked.
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What a bummer.
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It's real fucked.
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Yeah.
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So I don't think - I don't want to mean to make light of it's just move along, but
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-
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Sorry.
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No, no, no.
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Please.
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Let's move along.
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I mean, there's nothing else to say other than that's a bummer.
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I can't be more furious.
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Yeah.
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It doesn't get higher.
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Yeah.
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So I don't think that the World Health Organization has ever said that the virus didn't originate
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in China.
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It's just that calling it the China virus is a meaningless name that can only be used
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to stigmatize, so they discourage it.
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In the preamble to the resolution, they say, quote, whereas COVID-19 will not be stopped
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by political boundaries and was not created or caused by any race, nationality, or ethnicity,
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and the World Health Organization has cautioned against using geographic descriptors that
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can fuel ethnic and racial discrimination.
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That's the only time the World Health Organization comes up, and it makes perfect sense what
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they're saying.
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Alex is lying, saying that the San Antonio City Council is saying that the World Health
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Organization says the virus didn't originate in China because he's a liar, and that lie
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works better for him.
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Yeah.
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If you're keeping score, in the 16-second clip that we listened to, Alex lied about
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the idea that this resolution was a bill to arrest people for saying Chinese virus and
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followed that up with a lie about the World Health Organization saying the virus didn't
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originate in China.
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It's like he's trying to set records.
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It's amazing.
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Land speed records.
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I mean, even in the function of their conspiracy theory, even if the Chinese government somehow
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created this and then released it, it's not the Chinese people who released it, it's the
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Chinese people who are going to suffer from you associating it with China.
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That is what's going to happen.
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It's the people who are going to get fucked up.
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It's not like you calling it the kung flu is going to really shove it in Xi's eyes.
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It's just going to be somebody across the fucking street from you who gets harassed
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for the rest of the goddamn...
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Yeah, most likely.
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Because of the consequence that you're willing into existence.
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Somebody who had nothing to do with anything.
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The Chinese government isn't going to be affected by you calling it that.
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Oh, you got us.
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Cool.
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So, this episode got off to a rocky start.
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A lot of focus on pink, but thankfully, I feel like we're free of that now and we can
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move on.
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David Icke had his little nod to Bill Gates with his little pink shirt.
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There we go.
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Well, I am wearing the pink shirt just to all show that we can be trusted.
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Look, I'm wearing pink.
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Oh my God.
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It just won't end.
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This is very desperate.
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Tell me now.
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Tell me now, Dan.
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Sad attempt.
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How many clips are we going to hear?
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Of the pink shirt talk?
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We might be done for now, although it is really funny because David Icke is on the show.
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Of course.
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He comes up later.
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Yeah.
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He said that David Icke wore a pink sweater to stick it to Bill Gates and we'll revisit
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that once David Icke is back on the show.
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Yeah, I imagine so.
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So Alex gets to reading some headlines here and you can tell from the way he's delivering
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these headlines that, man, you do not have a rebuttal for any of this shit.
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Coronavirus spread accelerates in Germany.
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Contagion within the White House would be catastrophic for U.S. national security.
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GOP senators worry Trump COVID-19 could cost them the majority.
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AP exclusive, Doc Show, top White House officials buried, CDC report.
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But depending on the graph, they're 50 to 10 times lower COVID-19 death rates than they
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predicted.
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And the very same groups now put out all these new fake numbers and Trump's like, no, I'm
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not putting these numbers out predicting giant deaths and millions more cases because he
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goes, I don't trust your testing.
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So that's Alex Jones right there doing a stupid mocking voice about a public health crisis
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because he has literally no other tools at his disposal to address these stories.
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He also can't ignore them.
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And I think he thought he'd get more mileage out of the pink sweater than he did.
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The one about the virus rates in Germany, I'm just going to leave that alone, not because
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I don't care, but because it's kind of complicated and secondary to what Alex is talking about.
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Alex knows that he can't not address the fact that Mike Pence's staffer, Katie Miller tested
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positive for COVID-19 it's too big of a story and the possible implications of it are things
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that he doesn't want to have to play catch up with later.
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If she was infectious, the number of people who are possibly exposed to the virus include
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most of the executive branch leadership.
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Miller's husband is Stephen Miller, a high level advisor to Trump and she works for Pence.
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This could be a disease vector that touches a whole lot of folks.
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And some of them, like Trump, are in high risk populations with the virus.
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It's not something that Alex can really ignore.
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Alex knows he has to touch on this, but there's not much he can do.
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If he says that it's the globalists infected her to try to get to Trump, this is basically
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an assassination attempt.
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And I think that he knows that this is an escalation of his rhetoric that he probably
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shouldn't make.
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The globalists are trying to kill the president and then the president tests positive.
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Well, guess what?
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It's fine if he, like, I guess for Alex to be like, they're going to take him out or
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something, but this is too concrete.
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This is too real.
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If he's saying there's a current attempt on the president's life, he's basically greenlighting
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all of his gone weirdo listeners to do whatever they feel like they need to do.
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And even he knows that's dangerous.
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So what are you left with?
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There's no real option for covering that story other than just read it in a mocking tone.
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This is like a bully who has no comeback, who resorts to doing a dumb voice like that
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makes a point.
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Like that makes a point.
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Like that makes a point.
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Right.
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And the last story there is where this pattern is really on full display.
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Alex has absolutely no good explanation for why the Trump administration buried that CDC
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report.
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And the way he's talking about it makes it clear that Alex doesn't actually even understand
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the story.
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Alex seems to think that this is a story that has something to do with projections and graphs.
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In reality, the report that Trump shelved was, quote, detailed advice from the nation's
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top disease control experts for reopening communities during the coronavirus pandemic.
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Presumably Alex and all of his friends, their goal is to reopen the country.
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So it seems weird that the CDC came out with a detailed plan to help communities do just
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that.
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And then the White House shelved the report on April 30th.
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I have a theory.
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That seems weird.
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I have a theory.
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Oh, do you?
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I think maybe he disagreed with the report.
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Huh.
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I think he was like, I don't like this report.
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Seems hard.
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So I'm going to not have it.
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Maybe.
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That could be.
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The Associated Press obtained emails that proved that the head of the CDC, Redfield,
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had approved this report and sent it to the White House for approval.
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But they killed it.
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And a, quote, staffer at the CDC was told, we would not even be allowed to post the decision
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trees.
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On May 7th, the Associated Press reported on this buried document, which looks really
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bad.
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What looks even worse is that according to ABC News, quote, after the story ran, the
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White House called the CDC and ordered them to refile all of the decision trees except
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one that targeted churches.
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An email obtained by the Associated Press confirmed the agency resent the documents
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late Thursday, hours after the news broke.
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There's clear intention here, and none of it's good.
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It's the sort of thing where obviously Trump wanted to reopen everything in a pretty rough
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shot uncontrolled way, whereas the CDC's guidance was much more careful and measured, which
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would be slower and kind of a bummer.
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Instead of letting the expert advice be released, they covered it up.
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And when what's the evidence of the report was reported on by the Associated Press, the
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administration tried to cover up that cover up by demanding the report be refiled.
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It's all pathetically transparent stuff, and Alex knows that he has absolutely no good
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argument for why Trump would act like that.
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If the goal is to safely reopen the country, his actions make no sense.
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So Alex comes up with a completely fictional version of the story that has to do with these
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narratives where he misrepresents death projections from January.
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This is the best he can do.
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He's reading headlines about a very serious thing, like high-level White House staffers
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testing positive for the virus or Trump burying reports that could end up jeopardizing public
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health.
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This reads him in a mocking tone.
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I don't even know why he's doing the show anymore.
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If that's the best he's got, that's ridiculous.
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You can be very large and yet still be a child on the inside.
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Did you know that?
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Did you know that your physical body keeps growing even if your maturity in the head
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part doesn't change?
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I don't know how you feel good about this work.
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You know what I'm saying?
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Like I feel some money.
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If you want money, you feel good.
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I try pretty hard on this show and I still will sometimes walk away with like, I could
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have done better.
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I can't imagine what I would feel like if I just went in on our podcast and was like,
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wee-ba-doo-ba-doo.
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I can imagine what it feels like.
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Freedom.
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Yeah.
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It feels like complete freedom.
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Yeah.
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We've got to work our way towards a show where I can just make mouth noises.
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That's a great show.
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Alex.
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Spin off.
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All right.
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Let's do it.
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So in this episode, Alex keeps saying that he has like clips of Bill Gates saying that
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he wants to kill children.
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Of course he does.
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Right?
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Yeah.
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And I'm like, no, you don't.
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No, he does.
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And then he ends up playing it.
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And this is so sad.
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Here's a few clips of Bill Gates talking about childhood death and depopulation.
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And of course we have clips of him talking about death panels, get rid of old people.
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But here's some of the things he said recently.
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Chance for us to share things like producing childhood death and improving the nutrition.
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So it's a chance for us to meet with scientists.
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We see a lot of things that are going very well.
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Things like producing childhood death and improving the nutrition.
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So meet with scientists.
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We see a lot of things that are going very well.
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Things like producing childhood death.
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So he clearly is saying reduce and Alex is thinking he says produce.
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So they played the clip again.
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And it's on a loop too.
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They played it a couple more times.
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And it's on a loop.
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And then it's even worse because they play it slowed down and it sounds even more like
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reduce.
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Things like producing childhood death.
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That doesn't sound like produce.
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Wow.
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But this is the smoking gun that Bill Gates looked really excited while talking about
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producing childhood death.
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Did Geraldo just open a vault?
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What the fuck just happened there?
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That is wild.
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Oh man.
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Did he not listen to it before the show?
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I mean, I don't know.
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It could just be motivated hearing because you know like sometimes when you tell yourself
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like if I told myself to hear produce there, I probably could.
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But it's pretty clear he's saying reduce.
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It would take a lot of mental effort to be like.
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You have to want it.
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Yeah.
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You got to really want it.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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So in this next clip, Alex gets to the issues surrounding the Department of Justice dropping
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the case against General Flynn.
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Oh, because it's very clear intent on Bill Barr's part to cover up a crime.
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Big hero.
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No, he's covering it up because that's what he's.
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Hero.
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He was hired to cover up crimes.
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That's literally why the only reason you hire Bill Barr is to cover up crimes.
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You look like you're not hearing me.
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No hero.
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No, I'm pretty sure that he admitted to lying to the FBI.
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Probably committed way more crimes than that.
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So in covering this story, Alex has decided to focus on Chuck Todd on Meet the Press.
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That's a good call.
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Right.
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And then, of course, we've got the situation coming out with General Flynn and some of
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the articles dealing with that on Infowars.com.
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That's how now even the DOJ is slamming NBC's Chuck Todd over deceptive editing of A.G.
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Barr interview.
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Yeah.
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How does that feel, Barr?
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When the media lies about what you say.
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And then comes after you.
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I've had the attorney general in New York and we're considering legal action against
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now say that I claim I have a cure to covid-19 or a treatment.
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I never said any such thing.
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Kind of did.
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Oh, you just got to make it about yourself.
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Got to make it about yourself no matter what.
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So Chuck Todd on Meet the Press interviewed Attorney General Barr and asked him, quote,
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when history looks back on this decision, how do you think it will be written?
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On the show, Barr's response was, quote, well, history is written by the winners.
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So it largely depends on who's writing the history.
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The full answer that Barr gave was, quote, well, history is written by the winners.
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So it largely depends on who's writing the history.
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But I think a fair history would say that it was a good decision because it upheld the
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rule of law.
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It helped.
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It upheld the standards of the Department of Justice and it undid what was an injustice.
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I see both sides of this.
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Chuck Todd very clearly did a bad job here and misrepresented the full context of what
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Barr said.
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And it's very hard for me to imagine that wasn't the decision that he made.
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So fuck him.
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But that being said, even with the full context, Barr's comment is fucking chilling and scary.
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His first thought is still that history is written by the winners.
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And then he clarifies that he thinks what he did was a good decision based on the rule
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of law and that any fair history would show that.
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Feels kind of like rationalization of the immediate answer that even he must have realized
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sounded a little bit villainous.
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Yeah, that is a little bit like, well, so long as we remain in power forever, I think
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it'll be a great decision, guys.
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It's the kind of thing where it's like, I think that answer, even with the full answer,
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is fucked up.
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No, it's terrifying.
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It doesn't excuse what Chuck Todd, the way he presented it.
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Even though...
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I mean, honestly, I don't think it matters because the rest of it was a lie anyways.
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Sure.
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You know, nobody, even Bill Barr in his heart can possibly believe that what he did would
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be treated fairly by history.
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Well, but at the same time, jeers must go to Chuck Todd.
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I don't even care.
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No, I don't even...
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You cannot care.
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I don't think so.
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I think in terms of being a fair actor and looking at the things that are presented,
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that is a misrepresentation.
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Because Chuck Todd did also say that he didn't justify this based on the rule of law.
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For sure.
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That is a concrete misrepresentation.
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Now, you could say on the spirit of things, fine, but that's not what Chuck Todd's job
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is.
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Right.
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No, I understand.
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No, my feeling is we're getting abused by being fair.
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And it is abuse for William Barr to pretend anything other than that he's covering up
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a crime.
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Fine.
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I'm abused by it.
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Fine.
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I don't think Chuck Todd should have done an interview with him, period.
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I can agree with...
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Because he's just going to lie.
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I can agree with that conclusion, but I can't use that agreement or that conclusion to justify
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misrepresenting a person on a news show.
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I agree with you.
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You deteriorate the entire point of what you're doing.
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I agree.
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And in the process, you don't achieve the goal that you want to.
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You give firepower to the people that would provide cover for the cover-up or whatever.
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I think it's...
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I don't know.
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My issue is letting him talk in the first place.
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Fair enough.
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Yeah.
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And another sort of show could, I don't know, justify...
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Like if it was a Sacha Baron Cohen, maybe, or whatever.
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But that's not what Chuck Todd's doing.
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No.
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And while we're on the subject of things being taken out of context, I should bring up that
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one of the major sources of justification for the Department of Justice dropping their
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case against Michael Flynn has come out and said that her words were being used inappropriately
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as support for a conclusion she actually opposes.
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Former acting Attorney General for National Security Mary McCord wrote an op-ed in the
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New York Times that includes the following, quote,
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In attempting to support its argument, the motion cites more than 25 times the FBI's
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report of an interview with me in July 2017.
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The report of my interview is no support for Mr. Barr's dismissal of Flynn's case.
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It does not suggest that the FBI had no counterintelligence reason for investigating Mr. Flynn.
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It does not suggest that the FBI's interview of Mr. Flynn, which led to the false statements
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charge, was unlawful or unjustified.
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It does not support that Mr. Flynn's false statements were not material.
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And it does not support the Department of Justice's assertion that the continued prosecution
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of the case against Mr. Flynn, who pleaded guilty to knowingly making materially false
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statements to the FBI, would not serve the interests of justice.
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The working theory, according to some legal experts, is that there was not good cause
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to drop the case against Flynn, but the Department of Justice came up with a weird technicality
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argument in order to avoid Trump trying to pardon him, which would have been a real clusterfuck
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who would have been a mess that no one in Trump's administration would want to try and
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do.
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Yeah, they will.
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Well, they wouldn't.
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They don't have to now.
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No, they don't have to now.
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That's true.
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They have argued that the lies that Flynn told the FBI were not material lies, which
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is to say that they weren't relevant to other cases, and therefore lying about those things
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is not a crime.
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This is not a very solid argument, and in a sane world, this would probably trigger
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an independent investigation into how the DOJ came to this conclusion.
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Alas, we don't live in a sane world, and so here we are.
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And here again, we have Alex looking up to Bill Barr, a guy who he should absolutely,
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unequivocally hate based on everything he pretends to stand for and all of the issues
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that his career is based on.
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I just don't understand how it wasn't immediately an arrestable offense to hire Bill Barr.
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Should be a red flag.
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Because that's literally like saying, oh, yeah, yeah, no, I committed crimes.
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That's why I'm hiring Bill Barr.
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Remember when Bill Barr was the previous?
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Remember when he was the attorney general before and he covered up all those crimes?
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That's why I hired him.
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And it should be something that completely fractured Trump's base.
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It should have been something that lost him all of the right wing support, because they
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know who he is.
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They should know who he is.
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What do you think?
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He's covered up all their crimes.
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Not that part of the right wing.
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That's true.
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That's true.
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That's true.
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I'm talking about his association with Ruby Ridge and Ron Contra are problems for the
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Patriot militia right wing.
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They should have seen Trump even thinking about hiring him and been like, if he does
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that, we're out.
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And then Trump should have, I guess he played it right, because turns out they don't care.
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They don't care.
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They don't care.
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They're hiring them right now and they don't care.
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So we get back to talking about Sweden because it's Alex's favorite country or something.
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Stockholm.
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Uh huh.
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And so he talks about the death toll from the virus in Sweden and then he just makes
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some stuff up.
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Cool.
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How many people we got dead in Sweden?
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Let's, let's see the numbers in Sweden for me.
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Pretty please cupcakes on top, 3,256 in Sweden.
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What's the flu usually kill in Sweden every year?
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I was looking at about 15,000 horse.
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There's no deaths now in the U S from flu because they're all attributed to COVID, COVID, COVID,
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COVID.
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They ought to have that as the new European siren on police cars instead of just COVID,
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COVID, COVID.
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Oh, what ended civilization?
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Oh, a panic over a virus.
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This show is good.
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So we have two claims being made there.
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So let's look at them one at a time.
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The first is that there were 15,000 flu deaths in Sweden a year.
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That's a, that's a claim that Alex is making data published about the 2018, 2019 flu season
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showed that labs in Sweden only reported 13,757 total cases.
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So that number he's got seems to be a little bit high.
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They reported 505 of these people died within 30 days of their diagnosis to give you some
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idea of the scale.
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In the 2011, 2020 season, the death toll almost hit 1000.
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And from every indication I can find, Alex is just making up that number about Swedish
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flu deaths.
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If his number were accurate and you applied that rate based on Sweden's population to
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the United States, we would have about 492,000 flu deaths per year, which again leads me
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to believe that Alex is just making this up.
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Those are all COVID deaths now, Dan, we have, yeah, maybe he just saw that they had about
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14,000 cases last year and he's misrepresenting that and misreporting it as deaths.
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Whatever the case, he's just presenting bad information to his audience authoritatively,
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which is lame.
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Yeah.
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Also, Alex has claimed there's no cases of flu being reported because they're all being
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called COVID-19 is a complete lie.
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You can easily find data on the CDC's website that reflects newly reported cases of influenza
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that are confirmed each week.
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The number is going drastically downward because flu season is pretty much over as it usually
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ends around, you know, like the end of March or in April.
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There are still 21 new cases in week 18 of 2020, which ended May 2nd and 26 cases the
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week prior.
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You can find week by week data for influenza related deaths on the website too.
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Week 18 had 20 deaths and week 17 had 106.
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If you look at their data for previous years, this is pretty much the very common pattern
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for flu seasons where deaths slowly increase as the season begins and then they gradually
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go down as we come to the end of the season.
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This drop typically comes in week 16 to 19 of the year and sometimes a little bit earlier,
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so this is all very normal patterns.
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They're not just calling all flu deaths COVID-19 and there's very easily available data that
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shows that health officials are still counting flu deaths.
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Alex is just making this up because it's important for his narrative to minimize the danger of
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COVID-19 and because he's a lazy fucking fraud.
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Which makes me actually kind of happy to hear this next clip where Alex basically just admits
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that his life's work has amounted to nothing.
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I'm actually now moving to the country.
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I'm actually building the armored fortress.
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It looks like a farmhouse, but it's going to have steel walls.
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I'm actually giving up on folks.
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I mean, spiritually, we've got to get people right with God.
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We're going to try to fix things, but we failed to stop the globalist takeover at this level.
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We knew it would be a biological weapon attack.
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We first said it would be a simulant to lock you down.
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I've been telling you that since Endgame 2007, and then the real bio attacks come after this.
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Well, you failed.
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The whole point was to stop the globalist, you failed.
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So you've done nothing.
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Yeah, that's a fitting end.
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That is a fitting end.
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He has accomplished nothing in his entire life and he should be ashamed of himself for
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being such a huge failure.
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Well, one of the things I started to think of-
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Even in his own fake reality, he's a giant failure, let alone in reality reality where
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he's a massive, destructive failure.
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But I also think it was inevitable.
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I think that Alex's operation is doomed to failure to begin with because it doesn't mean
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anything.
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None of the stuff he's talking about goes anywhere.
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It's all bullshit.
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Right, right, right.
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So basically, if you have smart, engaged, competent people in your audience, they're
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going to end up looking into the things that you say and eventually they're going to be
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like, this guy's full of shit, and they're going to move on.
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You're not going to be able to retain a decent audience of engaged, critical people in the
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audience.
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So that self-selects for people who are gullible or maybe dumb, and that's going to be your
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audience base, right?
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So you have that as your audience base and eventually, over time, maybe some of them
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will start to realize that nothing ever happens.
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They start to realize, oh, we're on the cusp of this great war against the globalists and
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eventually that might disenchant some of them.
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Now some of them will respond to this by turning off their critical thinking that's in their
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brain, right?
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They'll just be like, eh, fuck it, whatever Alex says is right is right.
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They're 100% on the ride with him wherever it goes.
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You could say they've given up and have failed in their day.
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Sure, yeah.
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And they'll just go along with it like, Alex is the only one telling the truth, whatever,
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a cultish devotion to the info war.
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The other subset of people are going to be like, Alex is not doing it.
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They'll find some other conspiracy, maybe it's QAnon, maybe it's some other guru in
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that world who will also have a piece of their story be like, hey, Alex is controlled opposition.
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Because that way, they can start being conned by someone else and pretend that they've woken
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up.
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They can pretend that they've seen through the bullshit and that Alex was conning them,
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but this one isn't.
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And so now they're out of Alex's revenue stream and that basically leaves a constantly inward
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and outward flow of people who get tired of the bullshit and move along.
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And the only people who really stick around are people who have been trained and coached
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to turn off all sort of critical thinking capabilities that they have.
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And that is not, I mean, you can go for quite a while apparently using that as a fundraising
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base.
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But eventually, you're not going to be able to do much with it.
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It's going to be diminishing returns.
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And as other things happen in your life, like you get sued by everybody, that base is not
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going to be able to maintain the standard of living that you've become accustomed to
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with your million dollar studios and all this shit.
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It's just not going to pan out.
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This is destined to fail because it's a system that needs to continue and can't.
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The content by its definition is a spinning wheel.
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It's never going to get anywhere and no matter how gullible you are, sooner or later everybody
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wants to finally get somewhere and they'll go somewhere else.
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And so the only people who are not going to do that are going to be people who don't have
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a chance to begin with.
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They're kind of helpless to the fraud and manipulation that Alex engages in and that's
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not going to be a base that is going to sustain you forever and furthermore, it's not going
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to be a base that's going to really do anything.
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No.
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No.
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And if you can't get another generation in to replace the people who go away, it's always
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going to be dwindling until it's nothing.
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And there was a certainty that Alex would be able to do that while he was the big premier
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game in the conspiracy propaganda world, but he's not that anymore.
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His ability to recruit is minimized by his social media bans, the inflow has been stymied
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as opposed to the outflow continuing.
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Like it's just screwed.
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When I heard him say this, like, we failed, I'm going to move to the country, that kind
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of thing, it's like, this is kind of, you knew this was coming, Alex.
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You failed before you began.
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Right.
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Yeah.
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You had some high highs and it was pretty impressive.
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It was a good ride.
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Yeah.
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But this is kind of what happens.
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You weren't building for the winter, more or less, because I think it's impossible.
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Everything's so stupid that he's saying that he can't possibly get like anybody who's not
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in it, like either vulnerable or an idiot to be a fan.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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I mean, he's self-selecting like an impotent base, more or less, not impotent, like unable
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to reproduce, but not able to do anything.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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He's paranoid, perpetually in fear, and paralyzed by their slavish devotion to a guy who's supposed
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to be doing everything for them.
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Yeah.
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And then think about how his business model also relies on self-selecting people who are
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gullible.
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Yeah.
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Because like, you know-
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The placebo effect is his business model.
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Well, back in the day, it was like, hey, the summer of rage is coming and the economy is
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going to collapse, so buy my friends gold and everything will be fine.
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And, you know, it turned into the globalists are slowly poisoning you, so buy my supplements,
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everything will be fine.
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Like those sorts of sales pitches are not things that you do with an audience that is
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critical.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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Critically-minded, right-thinking people would hear that and be like, go fuck yourself.
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Or they might look into it and be like, hey, you know, maybe gold is an all right investment,
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but I'm certainly not going to go with your shady ass friend.
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No, that guy is scary as shit.
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Yeah.
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Or, you know, they'll look into it and be like, do I really need the burpees?
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Am I going to get your krill oil?
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What's going on?
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Yeah.
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It's sad.
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It really just kind of bummed me out.
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Yeah.
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Anyway, Alex has a surprise coming up on this episode.
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Okay.
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Is Ozymandias coming?
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A little surprise for everybody.
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You know, San Antonio said they'll arrest you if you say the words Chinese virus.
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I hear a stunt coming.
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Well, let's just say we got a surprise up our sleeves.
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Coming up next segment, we'll show you what's going on.
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Nothing happened next segment.
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I don't know if you play something later in the show, but I was like, I'm certain this
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is going to be fentanyl.
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The dragon.
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Yeah.
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I'm certain it's going to be racist.
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Whatever it is.
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Yeah.
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Since he's presenting it as like related to the San Antonio story, I'm like, he's going
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to go fucking swing for the fences on some anti-Asian, but I didn't, I didn't hear anything.
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I don't, I don't, I don't know what he was talking about.
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I expected him to have somebody in San Antonio saying racist shit in front of a cop.
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That seems like the obvious thing for him to do.
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Get Mark Dice out there.
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Yeah, just send somebody out there and be like, I'm a racist and then see what happens.
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So Alex gets into like, like I said, no payoff to this that I'm aware of, um, Alex go, maybe
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it was something that didn't make the broadcast, like the radio broadcast, maybe it was only
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on his video version.
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I should have checked.
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Ah, don't worry about it.
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Anyway.
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We'll figure it out.
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Alex does a sales pitch, uh, for some products and this is one of the more confusing things
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I've heard.
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Okay.
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So the eight pack power stack, eight pack power session, it's an AM and PM pack, 13
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different pills, 13 different supplements.
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This is a way for you to give friends, family, yourself, to boost your overall body's defenses,
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to be healthy, to sleep better, everything.
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It's 60% off.
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So the eight pack power stack is 13 pills.
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This is confusing.
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So I went to the info store to try and figure out what was up with this.
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And as it turns out, it's quote eight different formulas.
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And some of these formulas are double pills.
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The flex and joint support, the nootropic brain and immune support formulas are each
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two pills.
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Whereas the other six formulas are a single pill.
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If you do some simple math, that is not 13 pills.
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That is 12.
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There's even a visual on the website that shows each of the pills and there's clearly
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12 of them.
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Where's the 13th mystery pill, Alex?
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What are you hiding?
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Uh, it's the invisible pill that only men and info warriors can see, Dan.
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Is that right?
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Yeah.
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They don't put it on the website cause then just anybody could see it, Dan.
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You got to order it.
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And then if you're man enough, the 13th pill will manifest for you.
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See?
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Man manifest.
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Makes perfect sense.
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Yeah.
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You're you're right.
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I know.
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I should have thought of that.
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You should have.
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Also, it's called the eight pack power stack.
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There are nine formulas.
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Did you hear me?
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There's the flex and joint support, neutropic brain and immune support that are two pills
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each and there's six that are one.
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The AM one, the morning one has five things in it and then the PM has four.
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That's nine.
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It's a nine pack power stack.
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I can't imagine putting that much shit in your body.
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It's a lot of pills.
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That's a lot of pills.
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Yeah.
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It's also none of the numbers match up and I don't know what's going on.
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They need to really get their marketing in order.
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I think the branding is problematic.
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I think it might be a little too late for that now.
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Could be.
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Yeah.
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So Alex goes to calls before David Icke shows up and I mean David Icke, we're not going
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to listen to much of that interview because I don't respect the man.
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No.
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Why?
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But Alex takes some calls.
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He's a top biologist.
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Dude.
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What?
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Yeah, he might be.
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Alex gets a call from someone who works in the medical field and this is the kind of
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hardcore information you're going to get from Alex's audience.
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You're going into a hardcore tyranny.
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We're all in grave danger.
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It says you're a medical worker.
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What's your view on the lockdown?
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I just check in patients at an MRI office.
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What is your view on all this?
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My view?
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It's over exaggerated.
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What are the doctors and other medical workers around you think?
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What's the consensus?
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They're just taking extreme precautions.
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I feel like it's half and half.
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Some of them are buying into it, some aren't.
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Well I appreciate you calling today.
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Anything else on your mind?
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No.
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Good call.
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I appreciate her brevity.
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Great call.
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Brevity is the soul of lies.
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I really love it.
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Great call.
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I feel like we walk away from that having a whole lot more information to work with
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and I appreciate it.
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Holy shit.
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Oh man, some of them are taking it seriously but we're all taking extreme precautions.
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How do you feel about it?
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I don't think it's that big a deal.
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Meh.
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Meh.
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Anything else you want to say?
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Nope.
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Okay then.
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Cool.
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So Alex goes to another caller and this guy has a quote for Alex and Alex should recognize
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this quote because it's one of the fake ones he uses.
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Of course.
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How long can the media get caught staging things?
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As long as we let them, boss.
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What was the president that said?
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I think it was James Madison.
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He said how far we're tyranny go as far as we let them go.
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That's it, brother.
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God bless you.
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I appreciate your call.
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So this caller thinks it's James Madison.
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I'm real mad.
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Alex says it's Thomas Jefferson.
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I'm real mad.
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Actually Frederick Douglass.
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I'm really mad at both of these guys.
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I'm really mad.
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But I like that Alex doesn't even recognize that this dude is using one of his fake quotes
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and misattributing it to a different dude.
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I just don't.
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That's funny.
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I just don't, man.
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So Alex talks about how there's nobody at the hospitals and what have you and they're
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faking things and all this.
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Although people are still getting MRIs apparently.
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Well, that lady is checking people in.
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Yes.
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I only am going to play this clip because there's a really important point that I need
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to make about it.
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I don't really care about a lot of his content, but there's something that he's doing in this
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clip that is a big problem.
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I got a threatening phone call from some folks saying, we're going to sue you.
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You claim our hospital is doing that.
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Turns out it was fake at that hospital.
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So it's just because people be out front, they notice no one would be there for days.
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All of a sudden 20 people in hazmat suits and a line of cars for the media and the same
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people were going in and out in circles.
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Now the reason that I played that is that is exactly the talking point that he uses
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about Sandy Hook.
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The walking around in circles, the media lining up cars, that is just him taking his Sandy
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Hook talking points and reapplying it to hospitals during the coronavirus.
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He needs to be fucking careful.
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He's doing it again.
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He's in the middle of this doing it again.
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Tragedy, he just can't resist being drawn to denying tragedy.
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It's all he knows how to do to make money.
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So there are people who are walking in and out performatively for the media to, so they
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would be, so when you're performatively doing something unnecessary, so you'd be like acting.
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So it'd be like acting is what they would be doing.
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I think if I understand this correctly, this has to do with some video that came out of
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someone doing a remote shot and needing an establishing shot.
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So like asking people to stand in a line or something like that.
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So the news report would have B-roll or whatever.
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Sure.
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Yeah.
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All right.
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That's cheating a shot or something.
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But it's not the dead to rights proof that Alex is pretending it is.
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And plus there's video of Alex doing things like that.
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It's what TV news does.
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It's not dishonest, but it's also not strictly honest or whatever.
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Wait until he hears about what they do on reality TV shows.
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Some of those lines that those reality TV star people say, they were given to them by
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a writer.
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Dan, can you imagine that?
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Wait until you hear what Alex does in his documentaries.
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Oh boy.
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So earlier in the show, Alex is obsessed with pink sweater.
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He speculated that David Icke wore a pink sweater to stick it to Bill Gates.
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He did it.
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Alex accidentally asks David Icke about this.
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That's a bad idea.
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No, you shouldn't follow up.
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Zuckerberg works directly under Gates and admits he takes orders from him and wears
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the same pink sweater.
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That's why I wore this pink sweater today.
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Did you wear your pink sweater in the last London Reel as an ode to Bill Gates, a little
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non-threatening pink sweater?
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Well, no.
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Oh.
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Yeah.
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Well, I think David Icke just kind of likes pink sweaters sometimes.
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Petered out.
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That's fine.
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Yeah, you should have yes-handed that one, Icke.
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No, he doesn't need to because I don't think he understands what Alex's weird masculinity
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narrative is here, and David Icke probably doesn't care that much about that.
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You can find a lot of pictures of David Icke over the years wearing pink shirts and sweaters.
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He has a fine wardrobe.
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Pink's a nice color.
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Yeah, whatever.
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I look pretty good in pink.
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Not bad.
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So, Jordan, this last clip here that we have, we know that David Icke has been coming on
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Alex's show and saying that there is no virus.
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It's completely fake.
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That's because there is no virus.
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Alex keeps allowing him to come on the show and doesn't really fight with him about that,
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although he should because based on everything Alex says, he knows that there is a virus.
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They are...
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It's not a fake, made-up thing.
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Unfortunately, every single time David Icke is on, he swings Alex.
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The last time he was on, he swung Alex, and he's like, oh, you're right.
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This time, Alex did, like, he's... this is so stupid.
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I hear them saying, what, it seems as if people aren't getting immunity.
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Even people that have had it, they're not getting immunity.
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Well, why are they getting immunity?
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Because they never had anything to get immunity from.
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That's why it doesn't act like any virus had ever acted before, because you're right, it's
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just completely made up.
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Wow.
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Alex puts the pieces together for him, even.
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David Icke doesn't even need to come to that conclusion.
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Alex does it for him.
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So I guess when Alex is like, eventually when people are like, hey, Alex, remember you said
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that there wasn't a virus?
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They'd be like, I didn't say that, David.
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We just had David Icke on, and he gave other perspectives.
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That's what he thinks that is.
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That's not what that is.
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That's wild.
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That is Alex agreeing with...
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You can't do that.
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No, you can't.
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You can't.
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You just can't.
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You can't.
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Like, that should be a part of every human being's brain, where it's like, I can't do
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that.
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I can't do that thing.
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That thing that I was going to do, where I said, everything that I believed was false
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and I agree with you, and then later, five minutes later, I'm going to completely forget
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that I agreed with you.
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And I'm going to be fucking defensive about it, probably.
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I'm going to be real mad about it.
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Oh, yeah.
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About people saying that I said these things.
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How dare you make me think that I said that thing that I think I said that I know I didn't
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say I think I said.
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It's fucking stupid.
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Ugh.
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Pointless.
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Ugh.
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Anyway, this was a wild walk through a couple days of Alex's rangy nonsense.
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Yeah.
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But we have reached the end, and we'll see what happens on our next episode on Friday.
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Check back on the rest of the week, see if Alex falls apart completely and disowns his
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show.
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Why not?
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Because, you know, I'd really like to hear him articulate more about how his life is
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a failure.
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I'm hoping for a real Coach McGurk-style, like, rips off all of his clothes and just
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goes into the forest.
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He leaves the guns behind him and braces the blade.
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Yeah, no, the man episode with Coach McGurk.
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Sure.
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Yeah, that sounds great.
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We'll see what happens in this protracted meltdown that Alex seems to be having.
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It never ends, though.
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No, unfortunately.
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Or maybe it will.
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Who knows?
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Can't wait.
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We'll be right back, but until then, we have a website.
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We do have a website.
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It's KnowledgeFight.com.
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Yes, it is.
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We're also on Twitter.
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We are on Twitter.
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It's at Knowledge Fight and I go to bed.
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Jordan.
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We're also on Facebook.
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We are on Facebook.
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If you'd like to guide to the Patreon, but if you would like, please donate to a local
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charity in your area.
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It would very much benefit.
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Yes.
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We'll be back, but until then, I'm Neo.
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I'm Leo.
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I'm DZX Clark.
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I'm wearing a pink sweater to stick it to Zuckerberg.
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Andy in Kansas.
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You're on the air.
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Hello, Alex.
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I'm a first-time caller.
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I'm a huge fan.
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I love your work.
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Thank you so much for joining us today, and we'll see you in the next one.
