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Andy in Kansas, you're on the air, thanks for holding.
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Hello Alex, I'm a first time caller, I'm a huge fan, I love your work.
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I love you.
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Hey everybody, welcome back to Knowledge Fight, I'm Dan.
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I'm Jordan.
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We're a couple dudes, like to sit around and drink novelty beverages and talk a little bit about Alex Jones.
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Indeed we are, Dan.
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Jordan.
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Dan!
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Jordan.
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Aside from when you grew your hair out to absurd lengths, what is the most-
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We've done that a couple times.
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What is the most aggressive hair choice that you've ever made?
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Have you ever dyed your hair?
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Oh yeah, yeah.
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You have.
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Are we including facial hair?
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Uh, yeah, I'd say.
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Let's toss it all in there.
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Let's just go with head accoutrement.
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Oh, this is a long list though.
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Honorable mention goes to the time that I got trimmed down low on the beard and went with the chopstache.
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Ooh, you went with the chopstache.
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Shaved the chin area in a gigantic mutton chop mustache combination.
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Alright, I would like to see that again.
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Wasn't a good look.
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Younger days I would do the beard with no mustache, the sort of Mennonite Amish beard.
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I rocked that look until everyone kept calling me Everlast.
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Yeah.
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Which was not kind of them.
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And then in terms of my head, when I was like 18 or so, I was quite a booze guy, quite a drunk.
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And one night at a party, me and my buddies were just talking shit.
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And they decided it would be fun if I got the Dr. Money haircut.
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Which is my name shaved on one side of my head and a dollar sign shaved on the other.
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No, no, no, no.
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So my drunk friend tried to make that happen.
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But he completely fucked up.
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Well, you're getting a mohawk.
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So I got a mohawk and I dyed it blonde.
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You know, just like real acid blonde.
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I was going to try and dye it like a bright color afterwards.
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I was going to go like blonde and then another color.
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And then I was like, fuck it, I don't really enjoy this mohawk much.
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It takes way too much work to stand it up.
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I can't get it to work.
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I cannot fathom you with a mohawk.
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It's out of character, but I was just so out of control that it was like, whatever, I don't give a shit.
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Yeah, toss it all in there.
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I like it.
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It was weird.
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So I learned a lesson, an important lesson, and that is complicated hairstyles are not for me.
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Ones that require even the littlest bit of gel or anything.
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I just can't handle it.
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But what I can handle is doing a podcast where I talk a lot about Alex Jones.
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I don't know anything about mohawks or Alex Jones.
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That is correct.
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So Jordan, today what we're doing is we're going over July 19th, 2019, staying in the present day.
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That's where we are now.
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Yeah, I know.
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There are some interesting things that happen here on this here Friday episode of Alex Jones' show.
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But before we get to anything, we got a bit of business to go over.
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Oh, okay.
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First of all, I got to say thank you and a shout out to Andrew, who is in town from Australia,
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and swung by the old Knowledge Fight Studios.
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I apologize I didn't have enough time to go meet up and have a drink,
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but he was kind enough to come over and he gave me a nice hot sauce from Australia,
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which I have yet to try, although I'm very excited to.
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I accidentally put it in one of the boxes for packing, so it'll be a housewarming thing for the new place.
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But also he wanted to bring some Australian treats.
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So of course Tim Tams, we're in the mix.
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Sure.
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I've had Tim Tams though.
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Who hasn't had a Tim Tams?
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Right, so that wasn't like, we need to try this and see our natural reaction on the podcast.
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But another thing that was brought is Cherry Ripe, which is a Cadbury product,
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which apparently has a bit of coconut in the middle of it and some cherry flavor.
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And it was described by Andrew as being a either you're gonna love it or you're gonna hate it kind of situation.
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My prediction, I'm gonna love it, you're gonna hate it. That's my prediction.
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That is a very good prediction.
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All right, so I'm just gonna take a bite of it?
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Yeah, sure, why don't you do that?
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With my mouth?
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Why don't you give that a shot?
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I'll vamp for you while you do.
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How's that Cherry Ripe treating you?
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It's Australian goods.
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You're being way too pensive about this.
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This is an audio recording.
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This is hitting me in multiple waves.
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I am getting first a wonderful lovely chocolate, then a coconut, and then a cherry punches me in the fucking face.
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It's a ripe cherry.
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Yeah, wow.
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I think it might be good, but if I eat another one of them, I will hate myself forever.
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I don't think I can handle another one of these.
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I think it's great, I'm gonna eat the rest of them.
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Yeah, there we go.
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My prediction, correct.
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95% correct.
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Anyway, thank you Andrew.
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Yes, thank you very much Andrew.
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Very nice.
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That was a good experience.
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I can't wait to break into that hot sauce.
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Now Jordan, the next thing.
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Yeah.
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Very large.
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So, we've done 300 and something episodes or whatever this podcast.
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Yeah.
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And our theme song.
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An absurd number.
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The entire time has been a sound drop that we heard on the first episode of this show that we just decided, fuck it, it's good enough.
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Yeah.
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Now, thankfully, someone who listens to our show has some skills.
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What?
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I fear change.
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A gentleman by the name of DJ Dan Arkey.
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Okay.
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Has reached out.
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Is that you?
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No, it's not.
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I do not have nearly the level of talent that is expressed in this.
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You know, I don't know how to put this.
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I think we're going with a theme song.
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Really?
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And here, I'm going to play for you Jordan.
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You haven't heard this before.
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I have not.
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This is the extended cut of the theme song.
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A shortened version will likely be our theme song.
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Okay.
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Maybe even starting next episode, quite frankly.
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All right.
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But enjoy this.
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Put your mic down so you don't interrupt this.
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Will do.
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Will do.
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This is DJ Dan Arkey's theme song for Knowledge Fight.
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Knowledge Fight.
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Dan and Jordan, I am sweating.
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Knowledgefight.com.
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It's time to pray.
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I have great respect for Knowledge Fight.
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Knowledge Fight.
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I'm sick of them hoes.
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As if they're the good guys saying we are the bad guys.
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Knowledge Fight.
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Dan and Jordan.
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Knowledge Fight.
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Riddler, Riddler, Riddler.
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Need, need money.
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Riddler, Riddler, Riddler.
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Andy and Kansas.
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Andy and Kansas.
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Stop it.
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Andy and Kansas.
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Andy and Kansas.
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It's time to pray.
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Andy and Kansas, you're on the air.
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Thanks for holding us.
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Hello, Alex.
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I'm a first-time caller.
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I'm a huge fan.
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I love your work.
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Thank you.
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Thank you.
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Thank you.
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Thank you.
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Thank you.
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Thank you.
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Thank you.
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I'm a huge fan.
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I love your work.
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Knowledge Fight.
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Knowledge Fight.com.
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I love you.
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Just.
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That is fucking incredible.
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Just phenomenal.
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That is absolutely incredible.
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There's so many layers, Jordan.
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Absolutely incredible.
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That's the best.
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I can't even express my gratitude.
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Absolutely.
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Frankly, I am fine if we ended this, but if we died right now, I'd be like, I inspired
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something like that?
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Fuck it.
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I am out.
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I never imagined a theme song for our show what it would sound like, but after I heard
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that, I realized that's kind of what I would have tried to express to somebody.
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It's just amazing.
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So cool.
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We really appreciate it.
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Absolutely incredible.
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So the next episode, it may start with a different drop.
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I can't.
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I've peaked.
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I think I've peaked in all aspects.
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Moving into a new apartment, getting a theme song for our podcast 400 episodes in.
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So times have changed.
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So thank you, DJ Dan Arkey.
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Really appreciate that.
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Thank you so much.
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That's incredible.
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And we've got to say thank you to some other people who have signed up and are supporting
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the show and making all this possible, and we really appreciate it.
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So first, Steve, thank you so much.
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You are now a policy wonk.
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I'm a policy wonk.
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Next, Steve.
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Next, Missy, thank you so much.
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You are now a policy wonk.
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I'm a policy wonk.
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Thank you, Missy.
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Thank you, Missy.
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Next, Christopher with a K, but not Christopherson.
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You are now a policy wonk.
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I'm a policy wonk.
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I don't know why I had to point out it wasn't Christopherson.
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You know, he was a brilliant actor.
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He was in Blade.
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Musician.
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He was in...
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What was he?
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The sailor who...
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Old dog, not old dogs.
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The sailor who fell in love with the sea or the movie based on the Mishma novel?
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He was in the Highwayman.
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He was.
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Next, David.
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Thank you so much.
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You are now a policy wonk.
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I'm a policy wonk.
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Thanks, David.
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Then finally, I'd like to say thank you to somebody who donated on an elevated level.
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We appreciate it very much.
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So, Stephanie, thank you so much.
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You are now a technocrat.
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I'm a policy wonk.
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Crikey, mate.
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That's fantastic.
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Have yourself a brew.
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How's your 401k doing, bro?
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All right, we gotta go full tilt boogie on this, Watson, all right?
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Let's just get down to business.
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We ain't making that money off that heroin.
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Why are you pimps so good?
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My neck is freakishly large.
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I declare info war on you.
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Thank you, Stephanie.
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Thank you very much, Stephanie.
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If you're out there listening and thinking, hey, I enjoy this show.
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I like what these folks do.
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You can support the show by signing up at knowledgefight.com.
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Clicking that button.
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It says support the show.
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We'd appreciate it.
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That'd be great.
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So it's only fitting that we dropped this theme song here on this episode because I
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have a little bit of a musical out of context drop to start off today's show.
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Oh, good.
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All right.
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Love it.
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What a dick.
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Oh, man.
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So one of the reasons that I decided to stay in the present day and check this stuff out
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as opposed to retreating to the past as we are want to do from time to time is that someone
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in our Facebook group said that Alex may or may not have confessed to killing a dog.
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Oh, oh, shit.
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This is this just got real.
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Well, I mean, yeah, we always got to pay attention to these these dog situations.
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And at the beginning of the show, he does definitely talk about a dead dog.
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The allegory.
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The analogy is like this.
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I had a Labrador retriever named Max from the time I was five years old to the time
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I was 20.
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And.
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That's 15 years, a long time for a lab.
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And.
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I would take it.
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He had hip dysplasia.
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We would have to put him down when he was 12, but.
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I would take him to the vet and I would get him to give him corticotypic steroids, which
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later can make your arteries explode, can make your muscles fall apart, can mess up
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your joints.
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He'd have been dead.
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He couldn't get up.
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There's no surgeries for that.
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So it's a catch.
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Twenty two.
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He lived three more years.
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And I worked for a large animal vet, Sonny, all about Depo Medrol and stuff that some
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of these vets would go, well, we're going to give you this little bottle, but, you know,
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don't give more than that because it could hurt them.
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Well, when the regular dose would work, I'd give him more because I would call back and
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talk to the vet.
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I know in East Texas and he said it was occasionally to just give more.
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But I'd have to go to maybe two vets to get enough of it because that's wouldn't give
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me enough.
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Well, I made the decision to not put the dog down.
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He was happy.
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I'd give him twice what you're supposed to give him, supposedly, and the dog would be
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up in a day, happy running around.
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He lived three more years.
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So I'm going to explain this and I know the audience can disagree if you want or you can
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agree, but it's like this country, ladies and gentlemen, is a Labrador with hip dysplasia.
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And Trump is Trump's got the right course.
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He's trying to build industry.
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He's trying to empower the people.
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He's trying to build up the military because that's all we've got.
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So another day in Alex Jones's show and another fucking conversation about a dead dog.
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That's weird.
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I'm going to clear right out of the gate, Jordan, in saying that I'm not going to sit
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here and pretend this is evidence of Alex killing a dog or trying to pretend that I
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don't understand the allegory he's attempting to present.
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I'm only taking the time to discuss this clip for two reasons.
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The first is pretty obvious, and that is compared to normal people, Alex Jones brings up dead
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dogs a whole lot.
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He compares almost everything, any situation, to a dead dog.
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He uses memories of dead dogs as an excuse for emotional outbursts.
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He on multiple occasions has compared his enemies to dogs that need to be put down.
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I'm not in any position to say with certainty why that's the case, but Alex absolutely has
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a preoccupation with the death of dogs.
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Based on what I've heard on his show, if he talked like this in therapy, his psychologist
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would be negligent if they didn't ask follow-up questions.
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Oh, yeah.
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The second reason I bring this up is that I don't think the allegory he's making leads
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to the conclusion he wants it to.
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In his story, he had an ailing dog who everybody told him should be put down, but he was stubborn
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and didn't want to listen to their advice.
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He'd worked part-time in a farm setting, so he was sure that he knew better than all the
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doctors and veterinarians.
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In order to keep his dog alive, he broke the law and scammed medicines from multiple veterinary
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clinics to give to the dog, which allowed the dog to survive three more years, at which
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point it still died.
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According to Drugs.com, depomedrol is generally used in dogs to, quote, alleviate pain and
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lameness associated with acute localized arthritic conditions and generalized arthritic conditions.
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When a dog is being given depomedrol, they're generally in a great deal of pain, and that
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pain is relieved by the drugs.
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Depomedrol is also used to help dogs with seasonal allergies, but that's clearly not
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what Alex is talking about here.
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The decision to put a dog down is always an incredibly difficult one, and I find it hard
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to criticize someone too harshly for coming down on either side of the choice.
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On the one hand, knowing that the animal you love is in constant pain is really hard to
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deal with, but on the other hand, it's really hard to fight the instinct humans can feel
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that they can fix things.
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Love of a pet can be blinding, and rationality can go out the window, replaced by naive notions
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that you can make things right and help your loved ones stay around forever.
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The thing is that you can't.
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Alex's actions, which were definitely illegal, only served to put off the inevitable, which
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is that his dog died.
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This is why the allegory doesn't work.
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What he's describing is the very definition of kixotic.
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He's likening doping up his dog on painkillers instead of putting it to sleep to what Trump
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is doing for America.
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Trump knows better than the metaphorical veterinarians that he's pumping the country full of painkillers
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in order to keep things moving.
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But just like Alex's dog, this doesn't end in a miraculous cure.
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This still leads to death.
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Yeah.
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His metaphor is structurally completely flawed.
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Or it is dead on.
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I think he might have accidentally stumbled onto the real truth of the metaphor, which
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is that Trump is creating an illusion wherein we can pretend that this isn't going to go
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away and then the dog will just die.
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Make the dog live again.
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Look, man, white people, we're going to be a minority soon.
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Let's just move on.
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That's just how it's going to go.
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What is the dog?
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Instead of giving your dog an opioid addiction and traveling around scamming veterinarians?
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Ooh, maybe this is where he first meets Dr. Group.
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No.
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Or which one's the veterinarian?
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The veterinarian is Dr. Wallach.
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Dr. Wallach.
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Yeah.
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Gotcha.
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It could have been.
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So we start off on that just really faulty allegory to start the show.
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And then he dives straight into anti-Elon Omar bigotry.
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Of course.
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Bigotry.
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Yeah.
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Just straight bigotry.
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In this first clip that we have, Alex is just like, he could not be more blunt about what
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his complaints about her are.
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Or all her arrogant statements about some people did something on 9-11.
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So I'm not going to make a statement.
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And all the other things that she said with just venom, she goes, I hate how they come
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and they talk about America.
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She hates.
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She's full of pride, full of arrogance of her slaver past.
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She's an Arab.
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You can't.
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There we go.
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You can't really be more blunt than that.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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You can't.
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That's really gross.
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It is.
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I would prefer it actually if he just got rid of the first part and just said she's
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an Arab because that's why you hate her.
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So don't even bother with giving up to it though.
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I mean, just don't even bother with this false, she's proud and arrogant.
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You just hate her because she's Arab.
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You have to tease the thread out in order to make sure that you don't appear to just
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be responding to that aspect of her.
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You have to create false ideas about she said, you minimize 9-11 and hates America.
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So in this next clip, Alex talks about her supposed past and her family's past and discusses
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how Rome didn't use black slaves until Arabs taught them.
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Oh boy.
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Oh boy.
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There might be a reason for that, but we'll get to that in a second.
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This is just disgustingly bigoted.
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Europeans did not have black slaves until the Arabs taught them.
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And then it's the perfect thing to have someone with all her fake scamming, hello, I am Ilan.
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I help the black people.
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And she's again, one of the Arab ruling class in Somalia.
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White people like her with white skin are the rulers.
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They are the leaders.
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They are the royalty.
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So I mean, again, he's just responding to visual cues that he takes from her and has
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determined about what he knows about her based on that, which is the definition of, I don't
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know, prejudice.
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Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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No, judging somebody based upon the color of their skin, I think that has a word.
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And when he said Western at the beginning, he said European countries, he was specifically
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talking about Rome earlier in that conversation.
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And one of the reasons that Rome largely didn't have non-white slaves was because they took
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slaves from conquered areas and their kingdom didn't extend into Africa except for the north
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most part of Africa.
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Right, right, right.
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Or their empire.
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So they didn't have exclusively white slaves.
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Right, right, right, right.
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But yes, absolutely, that aspect of the slave trade didn't, it's an irrelevant conversation.
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Yeah, because the answer is they would have if they conquered that place.
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Why didn't any of the Aborigines in Australia enslave the Latin American people, Dan?
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Right, right.
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I mean, it's not that simple, but it kind of is on some levels.
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Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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So Alex is in a really interesting position on the show on the 19th, and that is because
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we are now after Trump's rally where people chanted, send her back, about Ilhan Omar.
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We're in a post-racist country now.
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And a lot of Alex's listeners apparently are responding that Trump is backing off and selling
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him out whenever he has come out and said, I didn't like that chant.
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I wish they hadn't done that.
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They think that he's being a sellout globalist or whatever.
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Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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Lean into your racism.
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That's why we voted for you.
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So we could chant, send her back.
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It does appear that a lot of people are of that mind.
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And how could anybody be surprised by that?
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Yeah, no kidding, right?
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How, what did you think the lock her up type mentality was going to morph into?
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Like this is the obvious next stage of it.
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The only people who are surprised are all of the people from the New York Times and
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the Washington Post who were sent out to Trump country to get like, why did you vote for
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Trump?
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And they get all of, they gave all of these different answers, but we all know that the
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real answer was you wanted to chant, send her back.
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Right.
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That's what you really wanted.
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Chants are fun.
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Yeah.
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So one of the things though is like the only real defense that people who want to pretend
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that they're not idiots can have for a chance like that are that like, look, the mob is
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just into law and justice.
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They're not chanting, lock her up summarily.
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They're saying, give her a trial and lock her up.
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It's harder to chant.
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You can't add summarily after, it's just harder to chant, give her a trial.
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And that's the same thing with this Omar situation.
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They're not saying just deport her.
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They're saying to give her a trial and then deport her.
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Right.
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That's what the intellectualizing fuckheads do.
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Right.
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And that's the space that Alex is trying to live in.
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Counterpoint.
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Shut the fuck up.
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Sure.
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You're a racist.
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Fair enough.
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Stop it.
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But Alex is trying to live in that space where there's the air and the sort of presumptive,
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we're still trying to follow the law here.
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Sure.
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Sure.
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Sure.
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Sure.
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So he started a whitehouse.gov petition.
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Oh no.
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To get Ilhan Omar investigated and then deported.
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Oh.
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Right.
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That's really nice of him.
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Well, he's presuming guilt.
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Innocent until proven guilty.
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I just, we need to investigate her to make sure she's guilty.
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I mean, the guilt is really presumed.
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Yeah.
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And one of the things that I find particularly disgusting is that if you listen to his show
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and you hear clips like this, he understands that what he actually wants and what's actually
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motivating him is her being killed.
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Now the way he would prefer to kill her is to send her to a dangerous place.
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Gotcha.
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Force her to leave the United States and go somewhere where he believes that she will
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be killed.
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He will settle though for going to multiple veterinarians and injecting her with basically
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poison, right?
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I don't know.
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I can't say either way, but this clip is, it's telling.
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And Trump came out and was like, whoa, I disavow, send her back.
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And I get that's a little too far.
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We need to have an investigation like my petition at whitehouse.gov says of her fraudulently
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getting her citizenship and then ship her ass back.
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And she won't last a month over there because she's famous.
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And so anybody famous has a price on their head and her own precious Somalis will kidnap
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her.
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So I'd give her a week before she was kidnapped.
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She probably kidnapped on the way from the shot up airport to whatever hole in the ground
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she's going to squat in and, and, and, and, and, and then crap in a latrine out back and
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wipe her ass with her left hand for what she does.
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Jesus Christ, dude.
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I mean, if you are saying this, then you have made a very strong case that even if she was
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found guilty of this immigration fraud, she's a refugee and should not be sent back like
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that's against human rights standards around the world.
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The idea that you can't, you cannot send people back to places where you have a reasonable
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awareness that they will be retaliated on or killed.
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That is that that's basically killing them ethically speaking.
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What you're doing is you are an accessory to death.
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But that's what Alex wants.
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He's relishing in this idea of like, yeah, we'll do a, we'll do a dog and pony show trial
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and then she'll get sent to a place where I know she'll be killed.
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Right.
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It's because he can't just come out and say, I want her dead.
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Right.
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Well, it's, it's almost in the, it's the same way that they're always looking for somebody
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to be the aggressor so they can finally shoot somebody the way that they want to.
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Right.
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You know, they're, they're trying to get her killed without terrorism.
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So they're trying to follow quote the law and kill her.
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That's it's, it's crazy.
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Yeah.
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All she, Oh Dan, can I, did she murder somebody?
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Did she, did Ileana Omar like throw rocks at somebody?
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Did she, did she run somebody over with a car?
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I'm not, I'm unaware of that.
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No, she just, she just talked about how we should be, you know, she spoke in ways that
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could be very easily misinterpreted and lied about by the right wing and particularly these
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right wing propagandists who are itchy trigger finger for people who don't like America the
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right way.
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Right.
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So they're willing to sentence somebody to die for that.
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Yeah.
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Oh yeah.
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And they always have been.
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Haven't they?
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It does seem that way.
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Jesus.
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So I'm going to skip this next clip because it's just Alex saying that Omar came to America
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to crush him and the people.
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Sure.
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Sure.
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Sure.
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The people.
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I need to be clear about this.
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This is base and incredibly disgusting on this episode at some parts.
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This is one of them.
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This, he is basing this on nothing.
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And anybody saying something like this should be deeply ashamed of themselves.
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There's a very good chance Ileana Omar does not have her female parts.
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People are so ignorant about autonomy, anatomy that they don't know women.
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I'm not going to get into it.
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That's probably for the best.
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Why did you, why did you start getting into it?
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If you're not going to get into it because you realize, oh fuck, what am I, what am I
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talking about?
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I'm speculating about her genitals based on genital mutilation is what he's thinking right
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here.
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I'm guessing.
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I mean, of course context clues lead us to obviously that's what he's, that's what he's
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trying to evoke in his listeners and go like, fuck yourself.
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If you think this is appropriate, if you think this is an okay, okay way to carry yourself,
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even if you hate every single thing that Ileana Omar stands for, this is not okay.
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I don't, I just, I can't, I can't say enough.
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That's a, that's incredibly disqualifying.
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It's horrible.
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I can't imagine.
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I can't imagine you have to be a really, really fucked up person to behave like this.
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Absolutely.
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There might be a reason that Alex is really fucked up.
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Like there might be a completely easy, simple excuse.
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I know that he's very affected by foods.
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Like when he forgot his child's teacher's name because he'd eat a big bowl of chili.
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Chili will do that.
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Sure.
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That happens.
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It turns out that's not an isolated incident because it turns out that his dietary issues
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may be the reason that the 4th of July sale is still going forget.
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They did it.
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I didn't eat lunch yesterday and then they went and got one of my fast food indulgences
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that I don't eat a lot of fast food sounds like you do, but they got me a big order of
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candies from Popeyes and I ate the whole thing and I still stayed up here for a few hours,
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but I was in a coma and I didn't cut the new ads.
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I just, I just won't do it.
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So in fact, I'm just plugging, can we check info or store.com?
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What does it say on there?
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Is the 1776 special still going?
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Because I haven't come up with new ones or shot new ads for them.
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So Oh my God.
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Do your job.
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What?
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No.
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He had some chicken tendies.
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Look, I love chicken tenders from Popeyes.
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Incredible.
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I also love calling them tendies.
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Yeah.
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I didn't want to even address that.
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I didn't know.
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I thought that might've been a regional thing.
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I didn't know.
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I like it.
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No, you can't do that.
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Chicken tendies.
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I think it would be a profoundly weird thing for like, let's say, you know, when we record
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these episodes, I then generally will eat something unhealthy while I edit and then
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put the episode out.
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Right.
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It'd be weird if I texted you the next day or like you text me and like, Hey, Dan, the
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episode didn't come out.
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What's up?
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And I'm like, I had some chicken tendies that really couldn't do my job.
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That really wouldn't cut it.
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That really wouldn't cut it.
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It seems like a real shitty, weak excuse, but I'm just trying to say that maybe Alex,
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you know, he's so affected by foods that maybe that explains like everything.
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Maybe his diet really dictates his behavior.
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Maybe all of the, I don't know, I'm trying to, I'm trying to thread a needle that I'm
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not interested in threading.
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Maybe he's getting depressed and clinically so to the point where he's eating his food
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and then unable to do any work because he hates himself.
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Or possibly there's some side effect of, well, in combination with all of his, like info
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wars products, maybe they have created such a digestive state in him that he's destroyed
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by food that normal people can digest easily.
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Yeah, that could be.
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You know, like some of those things that might quote unquote clean out the flora and fauna
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in your stomach, like maybe it makes it so you can't handle grease.
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Maybe he should just get a regular cleanse, you know?
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Maybe he's lack tendy and tolerant.
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All right.
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All right.
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How are we going to do it?
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How are we going to do it?
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How are we going to do it?
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All right.
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So Alex gets pretty into God on this episode as is normal.
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I don't care.
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He spends long periods of time talking about God and the devil in exactly the same ways
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he always does.
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Of course.
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But he makes this comment here about using the Lord's name in vain that I find really
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interesting and pretty, I think it indicates his relationship with religion.
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I go off of God fearing and by that I have a conscience, I have a soul, I can feel God's
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presence in the universe as anybody that's dialed in can.
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And when I say G.D. Hillary Clinton to hell, I won't offend you, but I say it in my home,
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I feel good.
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I feel, I thought taking God's name in vain, I hope he does send her to hell.
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So what I hear here is Alex essentially saying that you're not supposed to take the Lord's
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name in vain.
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I have an understanding of what that means and I'm not doing it because when I did it,
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it felt good.
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I don't know if the standard by which God set down his rules are like, hedonism is the
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key to understanding, the pleasure pain principle shall be your guiding light towards, you know,
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I don't know if, because Alex in the past, we've heard him say like, what was that drop
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of his like, I had a really bad headache and then I called the Pope the devil and I feel
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better now.
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That's right.
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I do remember that one.
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Yeah, he seems to have like a, this weird like release relief valve whenever he says
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really fucked up religious things and that's not, I don't think that that makes them true
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or good.
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I think that says more about his psychology than anything else.
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It is, it is.
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Maybe it explains why he sucks at swearing so much.
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Like he can't, he can't say fuck in the right context at all because he's so good at just
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calling upon the strength of the Lord to destroy his enemies.
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It is so good at it.
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It is.
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Uh, well yeah, because it works.
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It feels good.
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It feels good.
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I don't know if it works.
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No, I'm pretty sure it works.
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Um, a lot of people have been struck by lightning recently.
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All Alex is doing.
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All Alex is doing.
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So, uh, Alex, Alex said he wasn't going to get into that, uh, business with, uh, Alon
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Omar's genitals, which is good.
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And now he's about to.
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Well, not really, but he sort of gets back into the theme of genital mutilation a tiny
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bit.
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Sure.
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I don't want to break down his thoughts about this.
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I only am playing this clip because of the sheer lunacy of what, uh, how this goes.
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I don't need to describe this for people on air, but there's a part of the female anatomy
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that is, can trigger orgasms.
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There's many areas, but the point is, is that thank God the muscles didn't figure out the
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G spot or they go after that, but this is bad ladies and gentlemen, this is serious
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business.
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Okay.
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This is a family show too.
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This is a family.
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This is a family show.
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Yeah.
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This is a family show.
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That's why I kept that clip.
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What are you doing?
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This is a family show.
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What kind of fucking family show is this?
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Oh God.
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Listen up.
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Listen up.
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Little, a little Terry, five year old little Terry.
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You're going to need to know this.
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There are a few spots, not just one, but a few where a that'll trigger a trigger an orgasm.
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All right.
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This is a great show.
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Now I'll tell you this.
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I know how to make a lady squirt.
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Now this is a family show.
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What the fuck?
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I don't want to get into Blumpkins, but holy shit.
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This is nuts.
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This is not a family show.
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It shouldn't have been a family.
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It shouldn't be a family show.
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Even if he wasn't saying that kind of shit.
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It should be, it stopped being a family show the moment he was like, I think I want Ileana
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Omar to die.
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Like that's, that's where it stops being a family show.
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Yeah.
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I think years ago this stopped being a family.
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I think this never was.
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No, I doubt it.
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So, um, one of the things I love to do that brings me the most joy is hearing Alex tell
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stories I've heard him tell in the past.
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Whenever there is a repeated story, tracing the little details that seem to shift based
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on how he wants to use the story is always something I really enjoy.
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So we had, of course, the classic Halloween hat story.
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Of course.
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The Nazi hat.
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It was a Nazi hat, man.
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We have the globalist in a hot tub.
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Globalist in a hot tub was a good story.
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And his newest one that he's been doing more in the recent days is when he went to Mexico
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and he saw some gays who were talking to Muslims and the Muslims were rude to him to them.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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The Muslims did not want anything to do with these gay people.
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Alex tells this story again and see.
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Take notes.
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See if you can point out this is like one of those things in Highlights magazine where
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you get the two pictures and you got to see if you can tell the differences.
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I'll see what I can do.
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Because there's at least two pretty sizable ways in which this story has changed.
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I told the story of I went to a little island off the coast of Mexico because it supposedly
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wasn't as crime ridden.
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It was beautiful, great food, great people.
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But I was just down there a few months ago.
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The day after I left East Loma Harris, a little island, a policeman got shot and killed there.
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So it's just about as dangerous as Chicago.
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But we were standing in a nice hotel and there was a gay wedding there because we said about
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five days and I couldn't handle it, man, watching these these gay men who were all like in perfect
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shape and had their nails done perfectly and their hair done, their teeth perfect.
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They all look like Ken Barbie dolls groveling to a bunch of African Muslims and by African
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they were Arabs, but they were slaver types.
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And I'm sitting on the history of this and these gay guys would come up at the tables
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at dinner or at lunch or at breakfast and just go, oh, hi, how are you doing?
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And the Muslims just go, oh, oh, and they go.
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But then, you know, who I was, they were like, oh, my God, it's Alex Jones.
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Oh, I'd be sitting there with a pina colada and my kids swimming.
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And there's these gay guys and all their girlfriends, well, all the fag hags out there with them.
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Whoa.
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And I'm not being mean to gay people.
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That's the term they call it.
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Fags.
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OK.
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Everybody knows it.
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And so they're all out there with the fags and all the rest of it pointing at me because
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I'm the big monster and they're worshipping the Muslims.
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Woof.
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That's that's a lot of that's a lot of shitty.
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Wow.
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Yeah.
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We know the term and we stopped using it because it's wildly and incredibly offensive, right?
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It's a terrible thing to say.
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It does kind of rhyme.
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Yeah.
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Well, then I guess we can use it again.
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Look, man.
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Hey, hey, I'm just I'm just using a slur because it rhymes.
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That's what they do.
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It's funny how both words in that term are offensive.
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Yeah, I know.
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At least insulting.
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And it's like, hey, that's usually what we call them.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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I feel like calling someone a hag alone is kind of kind of lame.
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Dick move.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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So that aside.
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Yeah.
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That part aside.
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Right.
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Is slightly different.
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At least the tone is very different from the other times he's told the story.
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But the the two major differences.
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Let's see if you found them.
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I'm going to go with African Muslims.
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Right.
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That one's pretty big.
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Slaver type.
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The slaver type.
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He's adding that into the story now because it helps his conception of Omar right now
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is a piece of the Omar story as opposed to just being a generalized.
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I don't like Muslims.
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Here's how they behave.
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Yeah.
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Kind of narrative.
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It's so key to understand that this is what he does.
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Absolutely.
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Second one.
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I'm going to go with did that.
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I don't remember them meeting Alex in the other story.
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Nope.
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I don't remember Alex being in that other story at all.
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No they're all afraid of him.
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What?
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They all saw Alex and they're like oh no Alex Jones.
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So stupid.
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Yeah.
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I can't understand.
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Well and that's the other thing like all of his stories do include areas wherein he can
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be grandiose about it.
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Of course.
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Of course.
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Should he wish to inject those little pieces.
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Yeah.
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So there are only people who were there.
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Yeah.
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Who were looking to suck up to the African Arab slave trader class.
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Sure.
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Fine.
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But not Alex Jones.
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Uh uh.
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Because they're afraid of him.
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He's too powerful.
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Yeah.
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So fucking stupid.
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This is ridiculous.
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Every story he tells.
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This is how it works.
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Every story he tells either has him being adored by random ass people or him being the
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source of all fear for random ass people.
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People hissing at him.
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Nobody is ever just unaware of who he is.
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Right.
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He never blends in.
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No.
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I don't know how he would.
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He's a pretty distinctive cat.
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That's true.
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So in this next clip we get to Alex talking about how this is part of a long deconstruction
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about the devil.
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It's all stuff we've kind of heard before.
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It's not worth our time to re-go over this.
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However Alex does bring up something that's kind of new.
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And that is that there's a reason that people side with the devil.
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Okay.
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And that is fear.
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People generally side with the devil out of fear.
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I thought it was temptation.
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You would think that.
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Cause that's how it's portrayed.
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In the Bible.
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Yes.
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You would think that.
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But it's actually fear.
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Okay.
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And here's the thing.
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Okay.
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Alex has a really good source on this.
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Oh no.
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I don't.
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I will.
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Oh boy.
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Most people don't choose Satan for power.
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They choose it because they brush up against it and they get scared.
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And then the devil comes around and says, serve me.
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I'll protect you.
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I'll give you power.
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But you've got to hurt people.
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Before I'll do that.
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You've got to.
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What does Palpatine tell you to Anakin?
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You won't be powerful enough to defeat Obi Wan Kenobi and Yoda until you've gone to the
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Jedi temple and killed all the younglings.
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He's going off the prequels.
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He's going off.
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He's going off Sith.
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He's a, he's there.
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Well, there can only be two Sith at any one point in time.
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That's the first thing that he's got to know.
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All right.
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Uh, two, why are we doing this?
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What's the Sith are the basis for his religiosity?
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Not even the original star Wars movies, the prequels he's basing, he's basing his conception
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of the devil on the prequels.
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The devil has the most midi-chlorians, Dan, of course he does.
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This is ludicrous stuff.
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This is insane.
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Like I know he loves doing that voice and it's one of his only impressions.
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That's kind of like in the neighborhood, but like it's not worth it.
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Yeah.
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The impression he did earlier of a Iliad Omar was bananas.
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I know it's offensive.
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That's just bigotry.
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I know it's offensive.
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I really don't know what he was trying to do though.
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As far as an accent, I think he was trying to be offensive.
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Yeah.
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So, uh, he's talking about this, like he brush up against the devil and then they
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tell you to kill the younglings.
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Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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Uh, great.
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Midi-chlorians.
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This leads to him discussing what the Satanists told him when he was younger.
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James Earl Jones is great.
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That's what they tell the Satanists.
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Start with your dog.
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Oh my God.
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Oh, you like having sex with a super hot 18 year old?
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Goddammit.
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Go kill your dog.
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You are fucking, are you, are you fucking with me?
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I want you to cut your dog's heart out and then see, it just goes from there.
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If you know that it goes from there, that implies that you cut your dog's heart out.
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Where's Nonk?
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Cause how would you know where it goes from there if you didn't follow the first step?
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Well they give you, they give you a syllabus, of course.
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I don't believe any of this stuff.
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I think this is nonsense.
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I think it's a absurd fantasy that he's come up with where Satanists told him to kill his
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dog.
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Right.
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I don't believe that the amount of time he spends talking about dogs and the killing
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of dogs, I don't believe that there's not some sort of trauma that's based around that
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that's motivating this to be such a focal point of so many of his conversations.
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Absolutely.
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It has to be some deep buried thing where it like, it really feels to like, I don't,
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I look, I'm a follow the Goldwater rule, but I would be surprised if there isn't some incident
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in his past where someone did tell him to kill his dog.
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There has to be.
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Yeah.
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Or someone else killed his dog and he saw them or some, there's some sort of a really
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resonant trauma that the ripple effects are just, they're, they're still affecting him
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to this day.
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He needs to work through this.
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I have, I have never, ever, ever talked about dead dogs as much as I have in the past year
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and a half, three years of our podcast.
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It's insane.
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And it's not, again, I have to stress, it's not like I'm just cherry picking every single
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time.
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He talks about dead dogs.
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Even if you were, this is still more than anybody has ever talked about dead dogs.
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Even if this was every time that he's talked about dead dogs, that is 10 million times
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more than I have ever talked about.
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I promise you there are, there are more.
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Yeah.
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I believe it.
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And Alex, after this rambling shit about, you know, emperor Palpatine and the devil
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and the, you know, Satan is telling you to kill your dog, Alex gets on to, I guess maybe
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more of an inspirational message.
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And that is about how, again, his idea that humans can be the tools of God's vengeance,
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which to me is not so much an inspirational message, but it seems to be how Alex wants
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to look at it.
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And I mean, this is just fucked up.
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The good book tells us that vengeance is mine, saith the Lord.
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But if you read deeper, many a man and woman in history has been used as the implement
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of the engine or the device, the tool to deliver vengeance.
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So I always simply pray that God lead God and direct me for God's will.
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And that whatever God's plan is that I turn myself over to it.
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And that I be a vessel, everybody else prays and ask God for stuff.
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I experienced you don't get things you asked for.
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You get what you pay for.
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What God's plan is when you supplicate yourself in the presence of God.
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You also need to be careful when you do ask for something to make sure you're going to
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be up to it.
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But that's God's secret.
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If you really want to stand up against evil, God's going to put you through trials and
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tribulations to put more and more weight on you like a powerlifter.
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Or a drug dealer.
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He's a gymnast so that you can take it.
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I don't see any real substantive difference between what he's describing of God like giving
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you little tests and Satanists telling you to kill your dog and escalating from there.
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It sure seems like both of them have the same playbook.
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I see that parallel and I'm troubled by it.
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I also just I mean, I know we've talked about this before, but like when you take in the
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idea that like humans are the instruments of God's vengeance and sometimes, you know,
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you just submit yourself to God's will and then you will be the instrument of God's vengeance
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and you're calling for God's vengeance against people who politically disagree with you.
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It is the sort of thing where you are almost intentionally hoping that someone is in such
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a state of mind where they believe that they're hearing God's calling to them to be that instrument
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and carry out God's vengeance in quotes.
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This is not an acceptable way to carry yourself.
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This is the sort of thing where you are almost certainly hoping to find someone suggestible
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and plant that suggestion.
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Absolutely.
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This isn't a valid religious conversation.
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It's not a valid I don't even know what other like category to put it in political conversation.
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It's not a valid conversation to be having on a show like that.
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I think it probably is legal, but I do think that should things go bad, that is the sort
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of clip that needs to be taken very seriously, like if someone is to hurt someone that Alex
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is demonizing and putting a big target on and you know, oh, what do you know, they listen
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to Infowars a lot.
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I think that clip is very relevant.
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Clips like that are very relevant because they're giving the audience who may be suggestible
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the excuse that they need to take action.
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Preemptive absolution.
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Absolutely.
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You are not committing a sin by murdering her because you are an instrument of God's
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will.
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You have supplicated yourself to God.
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In the presence of God, you have been, you know, you're just like David in the Bible.
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Which by the way justifies every one of your actions.
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It justifies anything.
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It gives you carte blanche.
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Just say I was supplicating myself to God.
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It's the same argument as my dog told me to do it.
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Well, yeah.
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I mean, functionally, for someone in that state, yeah, it's really, it's really, it's
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really scary.
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Yeah, I don't like it.
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No.
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And to see it being kind of a consistent piece of Alex's rhetoric now, I don't remember hearing
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him say stuff like that a lot in the past.
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I know that it certainly would have stuck out in 2009 or this 2013 stretch we're going
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through.
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But I have not heard him say things like this, which are explicitly, I guess, just hoping
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to inspire or excuse preemptively.
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Isn't that, that's what so many of these people have started really doing.
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Like after, after the send her back chant led to so many conservative luminaries defending,
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sending her back, that kind of thing.
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It's like if somebody does something, then we're going to start hearing the defenses
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from them about how, hey, maybe it needed to be done.
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That kind of shit.
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And that's just a line that is fucked up to think about.
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Yeah.
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I hope that your thought doesn't come true, but who knows?
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So in this next clip, I just think that this is Alex talking about Omar.
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And this is just inexcusable.
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There's literally no reason to ever say something like this.
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All I know is Elon Omar is the daughter of what happens when you have two pigs have sex.
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You get Elon Omar.
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There's no, there's no reason to say something like that about somebody.
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So who cares?
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Fuck this guy.
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In this next clip, Alex talks about the July 4th sale, which we know would have ended by
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now if he hadn't have had those tendies.
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He would have, he had some tendies, the sales got to go on, right?
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But it's going to end.
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X2, X3, it's all massively discounted right now.
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And when I end this broadcast in about 30 minutes and other folks take over, I'm going
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in there to cut the new ads and the new specials.
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I've been so busy.
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I haven't come up with the new specials yet, but so this is it.
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I bet they'll look a lot like the old specials.
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Now what's really interesting about this is that Alex is saying that once I get off air,
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I'm going to cut those ads and we're going to change, you know, this is going to be another
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special.
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These things are really on sale right now.
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It's giving a, like almost the same thing as like QVC when there's a countdown clock.
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It's like, as long as I'm on air, these sales are safe.
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So of course Alex cuts into the fourth hour.
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Like he does another half hour into the fourth hour.
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He steals a half hour from Dr. Nick Begich.
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Angels don't play this harp.
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I'm fine with that.
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Right.
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He does that intentionally because he needs to move more product, right?
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He needs to exploit this sale as best he can, which is what he does all the fucking time.
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But he pretends that that's not why he's doing the, he's not going, he's going into the fourth
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hour according to him because he needs to take calls.
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He's been, he needs to take calls.
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Well he's, he said he's going to take calls and he hasn't because he spends like a fucking
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hour complaining about Congressman Blumenthal, who's a, I don't care.
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Why?
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He has some stolen valor shit.
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Sure.
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I don't know.
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Fine.
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I was listening to it and you know how I told you that when I was listening to Gerald Cilenti,
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I just couldn't be bothered to care?
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Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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It was the same thing.
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Okay.
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I don't care.
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It has something to do with his Sandy Hook self-defense, but like attacking Blumenthal
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helps Alex's case that he didn't do the things that he's accused of and I just don't care.
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I just, I don't.
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That doesn't make any sense.
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But he spends an hour of his show on that.
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So of course he hasn't taken calls, but he needs to take calls.
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Unless Blumenthal called in.
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He didn't.
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Oh, okay.
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But Alex needs to take calls.
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So that's why he goes into the fourth hour, but before he does, he expresses the need
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to take calls.
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I can feel your failure.
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I can feel you bleeding out, bubbleist.
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Are they bubbleists now?
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Right now I feel it.
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Okay.
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We have a lot of phone lines here.
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Is it Jim?
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Is it Kevin?
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Is it Aaron?
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There's a guy on hold also named hat man who he never goes to, which I'm very sad about.
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No, no, no, no.
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Scatman.
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Oh, sorry.
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Uh, th th like that right there.
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I want to just put a pin in this.
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Like that is an insane mood swing.
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I can feel your blood bubbleists.
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All right.
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Who's on the phone.
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We got some calls.
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We're going to go to, we're going to go to the phone lines.
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Everyone will feel the globalist wrath anyways.
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Is it Aaron or Andrew or who's coming up on the, that alone is completely nuts and like
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if that's sincere and him not putting on a character, he should be in a padded cell.
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Yeah, we're getting there.
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And if he's putting on a character, like what are you character should be in a padded cell
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until the regular guy is out.
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Well, it's evil on some level because he's presenting it as his true self to do that
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is nuts.
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But then also like if that's the character, who are you trying to appeal to with this
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character?
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It's just characters.
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The whole family, Dan.
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It's a family show.
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This character is so fucked up.
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I can just smell your blood.
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Let's go to fucking unhinged lunatic dad.
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What are, what's a bubble list?
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Um, eat your attendees.
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So this clip goes on a little bit and it's interesting because I think Alex tries to
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explain why he uses that, like his fucked up voice.
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And I don't think it's a good, uh, uh, excuse to these globalists, like to lean over little
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kids when they beg for mommy and talk to them like that.
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Mommy's never coming.
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You're going to die.
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She, she, I like to talk to them back the way cause they took, Oh, you, we, we, you
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don't, we, we only talk to the children like that where I came, I saw he died.
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She didn't like being talked back to.
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That's why I talk back to Hillary and then the way they like to talk to people, they've
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got them all chained up.
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So that's not good.
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That's not a, I don't think anyone, uh, who he pretends is his enemy is listening to his
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show.
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Doubtful.
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Actually, all of his enemies are listening.
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All he's doing is freaking out his audience.
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Like that's listens to a show, but he's not every day, every day.
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The idea that he's talking like that in order to talk back to the globalists, the way they
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talk to the children, they have chained up and scare so they can get adrenochrome in
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their blood and drink it and get high and talk to demons who tell them how to create
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a one world government.
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That's ludicrous.
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Uh, no, it's like a, it's like how you're supposed to mirror in a job interview.
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You know, you, you kind of mirror there.
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That's how you make people feel comfortable.
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No.
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Okay.
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Uh, no, but he did say yes to go to calls and he does.
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He doesn't get to go to calls and that, so we get into the fourth hour.
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It's a very rare thing for me to actually listen to the fourth hour.
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It's usually just some dumb, uh, fuck friend of Alex's, uh, hosting, um, this, uh, though
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Nick baggage ends up hosting at about the half hour mark, but this first half hour of
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the fourth hour ostensibly is for Alex to take calls cause he hasn't taken calls and
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he specifically says, don't call and ask about the products.
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Don't call and tell me I'm wonderful.
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I need to get, I can only give you two minutes each fucks up on all that stuff.
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Yeah, that sounds right.
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But even worse, instead of taking calls, like he does this for a fucking minute when he
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starts the fourth hour
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from the front lines of the information war.
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It's Alex Jones, a poet's channel, a poet's tell how Pancho fair he left his living in
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cheap hotels, the desert's quiet, Cleveland's cold, so the story is, you'll need your prayers
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is true, but save a few for lefty too.
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He only did what he had to do and no, we're just going to let this ride out of kindness.
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What are you doing?
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He's he's singing along.
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I understand.
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What joy does he have anymore?
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It's insane.
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Give him this.
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It's insane to me that like during his show, he's like, all right, uh, you know, Nick Begich
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understands.
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I gotta take some calls.
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I mean, this is real serious business.
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There's a lot of shit going on in the world right now.
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So I'm going to cut into his time that he's allotted in the fourth hour because I need
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to take your calls.
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I'm going to fucking sing along with Pancho and lefty for over a minute.
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Yeah, but that's great stuff.
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It's good.
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It's good stuff.
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So Alex takes a couple of calls and lo and behold, they're mostly sales.
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This first one is really funny because it starts out with a guy who is a veteran of
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radio and talk radio.
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Okay.
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And he reveals in the first couple seconds of this call that he worked in radio for 15
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years.
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Okay.
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I had no idea who Alex was.
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Okay.
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Which is not a compliment.
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No, that's not.
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Uh, but then he asks Alex what products he might recommend.
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Now his answer is kind of telling.
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Hey Alex, I want to say I've been in broadcasting or it was for about 15 years as a programmer
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and to be honest, I hadn't heard of you until about six months ago and I'm very thankful
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that I found you.
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You touch on a lot of stuff that I've felt in my heart and soul for my whole life and
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God bless you brother.
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Exactly.
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We're all kindred spirits.
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We really are.
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We really are.
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And listen, we've got a couple of points to make, but first I've had body pain all over
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my entire life and you know, the product better than anybody there, I think.
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What would you recommend?
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This is a really dangerous question for someone to be asking Alex because he's asking about
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a specific medical condition and then asking what product Alex would recommend, which is
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the sort of thing that if Alex isn't careful, he might say this product is good for dealing
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with let's say back pain.
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And before you know it, he's made a medical claim, uh, which is against the rules.
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But I think he navigates the territory pretty well considering.
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I mean literally it's joint, it's muscle, it's everything.
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What would you recommend to me to purchase?
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You know, I think X2 or X3 because that's a building block to everything.
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If you don't have that, the bad halogens take over and I would think body's ultimate turmeric
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formula.
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Turmeric is amazing.
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This is a very strong extract, one of the strongest out there, probably the strongest,
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but there may be one stronger.
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So I don't want to say the strongest, uh, I mean I would, I would think real red pill,
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real red pill plus, uh, I mean these are all, they've all bombarded us with synthetic hormones
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that mess up our body.
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But then if you get Preglanone, in my experience, I'm no doctor, I just, I talked to the scientist
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with these other herbs like real red pill and real red pill plus it does, I mean I think
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you should go through the products.
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Every body is different and test stuff out for yourself and then, and then just see what
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works best for you.
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But they're all super game changing, the best we can get, the best labs, the cleanest.
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So what he's done is remarkable because he's not made any specific claims about any of
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these things except for that they're all amazing and in doing so he's said, I don't know, any
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of them could help you.
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So instead of buying one, why don't you buy seven of them and see what works for you?
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Yeah, that was clever.
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Yeah.
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That was clever.
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That's really nefariously sneaky sales shit.
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Yeah.
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To the point where I kind of feel like that, I don't think that color is real.
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I feel like that was a little bit of a gotcha question there.
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I mean, all of his callers that bring up the pills sound that way.
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I don't, I don't think that, I think he's just trained his listeners to know that they
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will get a much better day in court if they do an ad in their call and Alex, even earlier
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in the episode, I didn't cut a clip of this, but he does say that like when callers bring
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up the supplements, it drives sales because it, you know, it appears to be organic.
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So I wouldn't put it past him to have planted calls, but at the same time, his behavior
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is so clear in incentivizing people to do that in their calls that I think it could
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just be a natural organic thing that people realize like, if I call into Alex's show and
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I do a plug, I'll get more time on air.
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I think that strategy, maybe I'll be able to plug my own sound cloud or whatever.
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So I think that that's, and plus if that was a fucking fake call, he wouldn't have said,
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I've been in radio 15 years and I didn't know who you were.
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I mean, I mean, that runs counter to Alex's grandiosity.
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He wouldn't allow that in a fake caller.
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I don't mean a fake call that he's planted.
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I mean, this dude is lying to him and fucking with him.
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Oh no, I don't think so.
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You don't think so?
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No.
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Six months and he's already got all the, all the things down, all that stuff.
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I think he's a liar.
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Dude, if you listen for a week, you'd have all this stuff down.
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Fair enough.
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Fair enough.
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I'm not, I'm not going to, I'm not going to make any claims.
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I have, I have this, this whole, especially no medical claims that is against the rules.
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I have such a like a bias from how much of this shit I listen to and how much of a joke
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I think it is for the most part.
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But like, yeah, I think if you were motivated towards him and you listened for a month straight,
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you would understand the rhythms, you'd understand the, you wouldn't probably understand the
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worldview.
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You probably wouldn't understand where he's getting his ideas from because a lot of that
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does take a good bit of reading and it involves clues that he doesn't give out very often.
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You know, like there's little things that don't come up but once every few months or
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even, I don't know, even rarer, more rare than that.
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Little signals that he makes, uh, that lead you to be able to find out what he's talking
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about.
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So you probably wouldn't understand that, but you would understand the message very
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clearly that, uh, uh, you do an ad when you call in.
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Gotcha.
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I think, I think, you know what the only problem is though in the last six months, very rare
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that he actually takes calls.
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So getting that training in the last six months would be difficult.
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I don't know.
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I think there's been enough.
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Okay.
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Anyway, Alex is a, another thing that he's on during the, like legitimately most of this
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overdrive that he's doing this, this half hour of the fourth hour, um, it's people calling
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in and doing ads like that's, that's a large part of it.
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And then the other part of it is some of his callers, uh, saying that Trump has sold them
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out by walking back the chance.
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Um, and you see a glimpse of like, Alex might, this might be a point that he's out of step
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with his audience.
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Like they might be past him in terms of the extreme.
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Right.
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Right.
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Right.
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He might be not quite able to match them because if he did, he would be a white nationalist
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out and out on red bar radio.
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He would be two red eyes.
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Red bar was the Chicago.
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Oh yeah.
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That was Mike David's podcast.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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Same thing.
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So I think, I think he's out of step with his audience.
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They've, they've eclipsed him.
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Yeah.
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They're, they're all, they don't have a business to protect and he does.
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And so he has to do this bullshit about a white house petition to get an investigation
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going as opposed to just like, fuck it, let's get pitchforks and start screaming.
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Right.
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So that's, that's a lot of it.
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He also takes one call from a guy who has started taking Alex's iodine.
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And he wants to point out, be careful with this because you can take too much and it
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can be dangerous.
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Yes.
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And Alex is like, yeah, you know what?
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That is a good point.
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You know, it is very strong, strong stuff.
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She then just turns into like a positive thing, which, but it, but it leads to him spiraling
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a little bit about the iodine and just like, there's sort of a, you know, yeah, yeah.
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Talk about the iodine.
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And this is the last clip that we got from the 19th and it is such an absurd way to try
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and sell iodine pills.
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Let me, let me just tell you what happened when I got on this stuff seven years ago,
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I was filming a mile every day, exercising, couldn't lose weight, weight just poured off.
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It made me lazy.
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And I was like, I don't want to get graphic, it's a family show, but it's, it's, it's medical.
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I'll tell you when I didn't have good iodine, I was not impotent, but let's just say I was
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like, God, when I was a teenager and stuff, you know, I had a, I was, I was well hung
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when I got back on.
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I was like, damn, wow.
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I remember that.
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Like, you know, I mean, I'm telling you, it's the, that's just a manifestation of it is
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that no wonder they're trying to keep it away from us.
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I'd like to remind you, this is a family show, family show, just, just to let you know, when
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I was a teen, my dick was huge.
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And then for a while there, it wasn't.
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But then I started cramming iodine into my body.
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What I'm saying is by iodine to get your big, your big dick back.
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I don't know why my dick was big younger when I was younger.
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I don't know why, but then I got the bad halogens coming in, the bromines, the fluoride.
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The globalists are shrinking your dick.
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Well, we know that.
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Yeah, absolutely.
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He does think that.
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He has very clear conspiracies about that.
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So the, the fluoride and the, all that stuff, uh, the bad halogens made his dick done shrink.
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Yeah.
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Then he gets on iodine.
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Will my dick shrink?
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No, this is a family show.
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It will not.
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If you use X two survival shield, nascent iodine, son, you're 13.
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Now it's time to time to give you iodine and make that dick grow big.
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I don't know.
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First.
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I mean, it's a family show, but I don't know how you're like, you're sitting here with
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a straight face and your sales pitch for fucking iodine is it made my dick bigger.
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And also I'm lazy now.
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Yeah.
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Iodine has made me lazy.
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Every part of his, uh, iodine thing seems incredibly unhealthy.
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The weight loss was so miraculous.
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It was almost like I was on speed and then I was lazy because it was too easy.
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I ended up swimming.
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It encouraged an unhealthy lifestyle where in I got the results I wanted, but without
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any effort put in almost like some sort of a miracle.
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That sounds like what I've been looking for in my entire life, Dan.
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You also want a bigger dick?
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Please tell me.
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Oh, and it'll give me a bigger dick.
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I can live an unhealthy lifestyle with a huge cock.
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Oh, sorry about that.
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Sorry.
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The fuck?
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Daddy, I want a big one.
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This show sucks.
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It's so ridiculous.
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If I had to describe what this is like triggering in me or what it's, what it's evoking in me,
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it's this absurd, uh, spectacle almost.
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Like there is definitely, you have to recognize the danger of this.
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Like what he's doing is through subtle suggestion, implying that, uh, this, this woman Omar is
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a, she's a Muslim slaver who's here to destroy America, which he knows because her skin is
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slightly lighter than, which implies that anybody else who may look like her, you better
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keep them out of power because if they get into power, they're probably going to start
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talking about how America sucks and slave people.
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Right?
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Yeah.
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So that's not, which Europeans didn't used to do.
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That's not great.
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Uh, as a thing to be saying, but when you've built up this level of animosity and level
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of fear about her to then like get so spiritual and so fucked up and that, and include that
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if you feel God leading you towards being the instrument of vengeance, that's what God
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does.
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Absolutely.
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You're playing with fire in such a irresponsible way.
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It's such a racist way and such a, it's such a way that like I, I, I pray nothing happens
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and I don't want to get alarmist and be like, this is going to happen or anything, but this
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is the way you would do it if you were trying to do it and keep your hands clean.
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Absolutely.
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This is the way that you would engage in inspirational terrorism without calling for it.
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This is, there is no better way to do it.
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So it doesn't mean that the result is going to happen, but the, the setup is very clear.
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Yeah.
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The results will happen or not.
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But the way to get there is happening.
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Yes.
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That's, that's the situation there.
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He's, he's throwing a dart, man.
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He's throwing a bunch of, he's shotgun, uh, shooting out all these pellets of murder and
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if they hit somebody, Hey, they hit somebody.
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Yeah.
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That's the way he's treating it.
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Yeah.
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And uh, yeah, I don't know.
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It's deeply irresponsible.
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And I hope that, uh, I don't, I don't know what I hope for anymore with him.
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Yeah.
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I don't know what I, I mean, I obviously don't, I think that he doesn't deserve violence to
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be done to him.
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He doesn't deserve, I don't, I don't, I don't, I don't know where the law is.
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Like I don't know where that line is in terms of, I'm not a scholar in those things.
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So it's difficult for me to say what should cause a, uh, uh, what should precipitate a
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legal consequence.
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I just think that it's important to recognize that this is what he's doing now in the off
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chance that something bad happens later.
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Because if it does, he needs to be sued.
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He needs to be held responsible for his actions.
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Absolutely.
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He is a, he is a piece of this is a piece of a trend that looks, looks to be heading
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in a bad direction.
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Yeah.
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Um, so anyway, uh, this is, this is, you know, this episode is a little bit shorter probably,
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but uh, a, I'm moving, uh, yeah.
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You know what?
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Uh, here's the thing.
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I guess people are listening to this.
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I am moving.
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Yeah.
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Literally.
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Yeah.
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I come to the end of this and I just think this is deeply irresponsible, but at the same
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time it's so important to me to show this, uh, clear, um, I don't know what the right
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word is because I don't want to, there's a disjointedness to his show that is almost
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farcical.
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Like the idea that he's doing this like real fucking prejudice, uh, nativist, racist agitation
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towards representative Omar.
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And then in the same show he's talking about iodine making your dick bigger in order to
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sell it.
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Yeah.
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Frequently saying this is a family show and then taking a minute and a half to sing along
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with poncho and lefty.
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This is a fucking absurd, uh, kind of spectacle.
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I don't, I, if I hadn't been bathing in this for so long, I would look at this and I would
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just, my jaw would be on the floor.
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Yeah.
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This is incomprehensible.
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It really is.
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It's a lunatic idiot show, um, but with a real dangerous potential.
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It is, it is fascinating, especially because there really isn't anything quite like it.
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No.
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Anyway, uh, we'll be back, uh, maybe Wednesday, but, uh, maybe Friday, not a hundred percent
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sure as of yet, but we will see.
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Uh, but, uh, whatever the case is, we have a website.
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We do have a website.
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It is knowledgefight.com.
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You bet it is.
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We're on Twitter.
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Yep.
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We haven't been, we haven't been kicked off Twitter, Dan.
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We haven't.
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Um, we're at a knowledge underscore fight and you're at go to bed.
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Jordan.
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They're also on Facebook.
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We are on Facebook.
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Uh, you could go to iTunes, you could download the podcast there.
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Uh, you could leave a review.
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Yeah.
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Also one, uh, last a week and a half or so you are, uh, at zanies in Chicago.
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Oh yeah.
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Yeah.
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This is that at all.
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No, I'm not really, uh, terrible at this.
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I'm not really a good at wanting people.
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People want to come see you.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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I'm in, I'm at zanies, uh, from Tuesday through Sunday, uh, shows at 8 PM and then Friday,
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two shows and then three shows Saturday, which absolutely wrecked me.
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Right.
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Also you almost called the headliner Leanne McAdoo.
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Yeah.
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Yeah, that's true.
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It was really close.
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Um, so we'll be back, uh, but until then, I don't know, Ilana Omar hasn't killed anybody.
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You're goddamn right she hasn't.
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But one guy who technically probably has is Alex Jones.
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Andy in Kansas.
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You're on the air.
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Thanks for holding.
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Hello Alex.
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I'm a first time caller.
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I'm a huge fan.
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I love your work.
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I love you.
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