617: June 27, 2003
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Today, Dan and Jordan dip back into the past. In this installment, Alex tries to pretend that Strom Thurmond wasn't racist, interviews an anti-Semite and an Islamophobe about how they don't like immigrants, and intrigues Dan with a tale about gold bars.
Tidbits
- Strom Thurmond died
- Strom got called racist because he cared about black people
- DixieCrat/ Southern Manifesto background
- People were more racist than Strom, like Senator Byrd
- George Wallace ties to Alex's background
- Trent Lott was a male cheerleader
- Guest: John Andrews, Colorado State Senate president, wants strict ID laws
- Mexican metricular cards
- John Andrews background: Islam is evil
- Steve King told John: teacher says that Mexico is taking back Iowa
- Alex fear mongers about terrorism from undocumented people
- Guest: Glenn Spencer, founder of American Border Patrol
- Astlan conspiracy theory
- Kevin McDonald background: Neo Nazi
- Where is Tariq Aziz?
- Iraqi Republican Guard was paid off with gold bars
- Caller: You're being directed by god, just like JFK
- JFK woke up at the end and was killed for it
- Background: JFK was into world government
- Alex builds on Andrews's Mexico story
- Alex has friends in Glenn's group
- Glenn has phone issues
- Neocons won't put the heat on Bush
- Glenn has border sensors to catch people crossing
- Glenn: We should make our own consular IDs
Detailed Show Notes
Topics covered[1]:
- Strom Thurmond was very racist
- The Southern Manifesto
- Strom Thurmond's party switch, and the larger party swap
- Alex and John Andrews are mad about Mexican matricula cards, which are IDs issued by the Mexican consulate
- John Andrews passed legislation in Colorado to limit the forms of ID which public entities could accept as proof of identity. This was supposedly about stopping undocumented immigrants from flouting the law, but it also really hurts citizens, particularly those living in poverty
- In 2019, John Andrews gave a speech about how the freedom of religion doesn't apply to Islam
- The trend of restricting what forms of ID could be accepted by public entities continued and resulted in the Real ID Act
- Glenn Spencer was an old school self-appointed border guard, and doubtless the inspiration for the people doing it these days, including these two criminals
- Glenn Spencer is also an antisemite, who cites Kevin MacDonald in his writing
- The story about gold bars being found in Iraq ended up just being bars of mostly copper from melted down shell casings
- Alex doesn't know the difference between JFK's 1963 commencement speech at American University and his 1961 speech where he used the words "secret societies"
- JFK's speech in the UN General Assembly from September 1963
- The quote where JFK said he was going to destroy the CIA is definitely not solidly sourced and probably isn't real
