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N-N-N-N-N-N-N-Knowledge Fight

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Damn, and, Jordan, I am SWEATING

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knowledgefight.com, it's time to pray

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I have great respect for knowledgefight

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knowledgefight

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I'm sick of them posing as if they're the good guys

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saying we are the bad guys

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knowledgefight

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Dan and Jordan

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knowledgefight

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Riddle her, riddle her, riddle her

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I need, I need money

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Riddle her, riddle her, riddle her

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Andy and Kansas

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Andy and, Andy, or

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Stop it

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Andy and, Andy and Kansas

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Andy, Andy, it's time to pray

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Andy and Kansas, you're on the air, thanks for holding

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Hello Alex, I'm a 6-ton color, I'm a huge fan

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I love your word

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knowledgefight

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N-N-N-N-N-Knowledgefight.com

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I love you

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Hey everybody, welcome back to Knowledgefight, I'm Dan

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I'm Jordan

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We're a couple dudes, I can sit around, drink novelty beverages

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and talk a little bit about Alex Jones

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Oh indeed we are Dan

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Jordan

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Dan

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Jordan Dan

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I have a quick question for you

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What's up?

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What's your bright spot today?

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My bright spot today, Jordan, is a combination of two of my great loves

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As people who listen to the podcast regularly, eagle-eared listeners will know

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Sure

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Um, I have been on a little bit of a rice adventure

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Mm-hmm

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Um, mochi, certainly

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The forbidden rice

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That is un-forbidden

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Yes, no, it's forbidden

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Oh, it's still forbidden?

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Oh, it's re-forbidden?

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Shit

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Um, and another sort of, a little bit in the past love of mine, which is vinegar

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Yes

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The invariant of vinegar

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I didn't know that you could, maybe you're supposed to put vinegar in rice when you're cooking it?

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I did not know that either

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I don't know if you're supposed to, but some people recommend that you do it

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Oh

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So I put some vinegar, some fancy garlic vinegar, in with some rice I was cooking last night

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Alright, alright

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Pretty good

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Two great flavors that go great together, Dan

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Yup

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Can't be a hundred percent certain it was that much better

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Meh

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But it smelled like a garlic while it was cooking

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Well, that's fun

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Yes

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That helps

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Yup

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Yeah, there's no problem there

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It felt like I was doing something

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And that really counts for a lot

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Yeah, I think cooking alchemy is a good feeling

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Yeah, definitely, so I had a pretty nice time with that, making up some rice and vegetables last night

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That's nice

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Yeah, how about you?

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Uh, Dan, my bright spot is that we are doing this episode at all

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Uh-huh

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In a very short period of time

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You're not fired

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In a very short period of time, you turned around an episode which was amazing

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Well, we've had a weird couple of days, kind of

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Yeah

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We set out to, the plan initially was, because I had kind of a strange schedule and a little bit of a

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I need a little bit of a step back kind of feel

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So I asked you to cover Friday

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Yup

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Two episodes of Friday

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I put together an episode

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You did

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And we recorded it

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Two hours

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And it was okay

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Yeah

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It was thoroughly okay

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It was a very interesting exploration of some guys on YouTube

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I gave it a shot

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Yeah, I realized that there's like, you know, a lot of sort of monotony going on with Alex

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And it would be a good time to take a little bit of a break

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Sure

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See something else

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And I don't know if I'm really capable of finding new things anymore

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Like I brought Alex and Project Camelot to the table

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And I'm thrilled that those have worked

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Yup

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And Bill Cooper to some extent

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But like some of my other efforts have not been great

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There's been some trouble

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And so I wanted to farm it out to you

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And I think you found something, no spoilers

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It's not possible to spoil it

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It's already been spoiled

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I was thinking we should just release it the way it was with a half hour that's recorded

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And then two hours of dead silence

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No, I mean it's not dead silence

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And then call it Jordan crashed the car

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Yes, Jordan

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Get away from the wheel

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Yeah, exactly

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Yeah, so we recorded it and somehow, you know, tech glitch

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Yup

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Something happened

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There's audio of us talking for the first half hour

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And then after that point, it's just the drops

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That's almost like one of those coloring book prompts, you know

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Like, hey, you guys listen to the first half hour of us talking

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And then fill in the rest whenever you feel like you didn't

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You know what we're gonna say

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Yeah, you got it

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Try your, make your own knowledge fight

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There's gonna be 20 minute stretches where there's nothing

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There's no audio

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Yeah, have a nice little chat

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That's for meditating, that's where we do that

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Find you

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Yeah, so

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Center

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So in a period of mere hours, you've put together another episode for us to release

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By wiping away my failure

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Only for us to share it for the rest of us

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No one will ever know

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No one will ever know

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Yeah, and you know, hey man

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I don't want you to feel too bad

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Well

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Anything, it happens, these things happen and it's not your fault

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I think the only problem really is that puts me at like a, what?

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One out of every five episodes I do it disappears

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That would wipe off a hundred episodes from our tally

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So it's a good thing you run it

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Yeah, I'm more used to the sort of troubleshooting

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Knowing when something's wrong and that kind of thing

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And I think that, you know, it's no big deal

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I feel bad for the listeners and for you

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Because, you know, you did bring something interesting to the table

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Yeah

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And maybe, you know, maybe there's something that we'll dip back into later

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But certainly not that episode

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No

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We can't redo it

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We can't redo that one

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No

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No, that one was baffling enough as it is

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Let alone trying to do it again

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Yeah

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Yep

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Lost episode

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Oh well

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So Jordan, today we have an interesting thing to go over that I have scrounged up

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Yes

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Today we're going to be talking about October 16th, 2014

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Double Down!

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Oh shit!

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Double Down on 14

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What's a Double Down?

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Like in a Blackjack table

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Jesus Christ!

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You have thought, you thought of that last night

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Maybe this morning while I was laying in bed

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There's no way I was supposed to pick up on that one

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Yeah

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Also bad advice, don't Double Down on 14

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No, don't Double Down on a 14

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No

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Very bad Blackjack hand

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Well, I guess it depends on what the dealer has

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Eh!

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But, yeah, so I decided I wanted to go back to a time before Alex was quite as,

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I don't know, overtly amphetimined out

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Sure

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For, before the time of Trump, I wanted to get a little bit more of a taste of that

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Sure

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And I just sort of scrolled around randomly and I saw a name in the description of the episode

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I'm like, alright, here we go

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And actually, I was listening to this, it is hauntingly appropriate

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Really?

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Yes

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You're a witch

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Yes, I think

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We've done this too many times for you not to be officially a witch

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Yeah, I think this might boost some of my credibility as a witch

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Either that or nothing ever, ever changes and it is all the same

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Or everything is the reverse

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Yeah, that's true

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Of always the same

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Yeah

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So I'm excited to get down to business on this episode

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But before we do, Jordan, we're gonna take a moment to say thank you to some folks who signed up

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And are wonking it up

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That's a good idea

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So first, this is a two-named person

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This is a very exciting, rare double alias

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Okay

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But they're both good, so I'm gonna allow it

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Alright

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The first is North Korean ballot boat

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Hell yeah

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Piloted by the skipper Roger Stone

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And the other is private chef of Alex's wife's tennis partner

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Thank you so much, you are now a policy wonk

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I'm a policy wonk

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Thank you very much

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Thank you

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Next, Captain Details, thank you so much, you are now a policy wonk

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I'm a policy wonk

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Thank you very much, person I'm not good at emulating

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Next, Caitlin Dingo, girl, thank you so much, you are now a policy wonk

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I'm a policy wonk

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Thanks Caitlin

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Thank you

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Next, Nuttsack, father of Theo, Parker, and Tucker, thank you so much, you are now a policy wonk

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I'm a policy wonk

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Thank you very much

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Thank you

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Next, Adrenochrome Annie, thank you so much, you are now a policy wonk

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I'm a policy wonk

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Thank you very much Adrenochrome Annie

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Do you prefer adrenochrome or adrenochrome?

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I prefer a drenachrome, I think dren has a nice little more dreadful feel to it, you

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know what I'm saying?

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It has a sort of phonem similarity, sound similarity.

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It feels good.

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I prefer a drenachrome.

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Really?

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Why?

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It seems classier.

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Well yes, I see we have a, that clearly illuminates the differences between our personalities.

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Sure.

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Next, Glitch the cat, thank you so much, you're now a policy wonk.

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I'm a policy wonk.

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Thank you Glitch.

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Thank you.

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I'd like to say thank you to someone who is now a technocrat.

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So thank you so much, Raptor King William the Impaler.

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You are now a technocrat.

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I'm a policy wonk.

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Crikey mate, that's fantastic.

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Have yourself a brew.

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How's your 401k doing, bro?

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Alright, we gotta go full tilt boogie on this Watson, alright?

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Let's just get down to business.

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We ain't making that money off that heroin.

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Why you pimps so good?

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My neck is freakishly large.

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I declare info war on you.

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Thank you so much, Raptor King William the Impaler.

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Yes, thank you very much, RKWI.

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You don't go with a T. Never put the the in a...

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I've never put a the in an abbreviation.

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We can agree to disagree on that.

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Always.

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Put a...

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Nope.

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What about that?

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So what about...

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Articles never go in.

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Okay, so Game of Thrones is GT?

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Uh, yeah.

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Not got?

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There's a reason O is lowercase in that.

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O is simply there as a placeholder.

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Everyone abbreviates Game of Thrones as GOT.

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And maybe they should.

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Okay.

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Yep.

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Hey, Jordan.

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Let me ask you a question.

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What's up?

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Do you ever get spanked on your birthday?

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You ever get birthday spankings?

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Have I ever been birthday spanked?

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I think I was birthday spanked one time as like a 11 or 12 year old.

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And everyone immediately went, no, this wasn't a good idea.

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That's gotta be really weird because like you didn't on your 10th birthday.

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It's not like it happened up till then.

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So it was just a new innovation?

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It was very much like somebody at my birthday party had just heard of birthday spankings

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and was real excited to try it out like, ooh, this will be a new thing.

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And everybody stopped and was just like, no.

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What is...

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No!

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I don't think I have ever, I don't think that spankings have ever been a fun thing in our

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family.

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I don't think it was ever playful.

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No, that's probably, that's true of my family.

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Yeah.

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But there are some people who are celebrating a birthday.

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Okay, well let's spank the shit out of them.

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I'd like to give them a little bit of a spanking by way of a podcast.

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All wonks line up.

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Wait a second.

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All wonks line up for the birthday spanking.

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I think I might have gone down the wrong road with this setup, but earlier this week on

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Monday, Pat had a birthday and wanted to say happy birthday to you, Pat.

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Oh, happy birthday, Pat.

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Sorry we missed that on Monday, but I'm not great with inboxes.

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So tomorrow, Greg G out in Cary, NC, North Carolina, it rhymes.

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Oh, G and NC?

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Yeah.

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All right.

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Having a birthday.

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Happy birthday, Greg G.

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Happy birthday, G G.

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I hope you're having a good one out there and I hope, Pat, you had a great one on Monday.

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Indeed.

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Happy birthday.

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Happy birthday.

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Blow out those candles, make a wish.

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Spanks all around.

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I was trying to transition to candle talking, so spanking, because I realized it's a little

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weird.

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Well, what you gonna do?

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I'm gonna get into this episode.

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That's a good transition.

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Jordan, October 16th, 2014, what do you know was going on around that time?

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What do you have a feeling?

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Let's see.

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2014, I would have just woken up from a three-year sleep or a fugue state, if you will.

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Rip Van Winkle over here.

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So I was just welcoming awareness once again and I had moved to Bloomingdale, Illinois,

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gorgeous one-bedroom apartment.

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This episode is, shockingly, mostly about residential pricing in Bloomingdale.

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All I'm saying is those are the only things I remember from 2014.

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This is surprisingly right in your wheelhouse.

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I may be a witch.

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Excellent.

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No, in October, it was Ebola season.

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It was during the middle of the period where there were a couple cases of Ebola here in

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the United States.

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The primary patient, the first patient that came into the United States, had passed away.

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And we are right on the cusp of the second nurse who had treated him has been diagnosed

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now with Ebola.

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So we're remembering when a possible pandemic was averted.

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We have done an episode, I think two years ago, about the first day when there was a

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case in the United States and Alex's response to it.

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And it's really interesting to take a little bit of a look and see what is going on a couple

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weeks later.

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Sure, sure.

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Absolutely.

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I mean, did he go from there will be lone survivors back to there's no problem at all?

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It's interesting.

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So I would say his trajectory has a lot of similarities and a lot of differences.

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Yeah.

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And that's what made this particularly fascinating for me.

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So here we go.

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We're going to start off with him talking about some sort of fear-ish narratives.

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I'm your host, Alex Jones.

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They are telling 911 dispatchers, Fox Television out of DC is reporting not to say Ebola over

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the radio or when they're basically talking about a call that they're on.

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We have Obama saying there's nothing to fear, that it's a low probability that an epidemic

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will start in the U.S.

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Even as we learn that the second nurse to contract Ebola traveled all over the place

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on aircraft and that the plane was not even cleaned, that is wiped down.

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They picked up the trash on the floor, but not a deep clean for five more flights after

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she was on it.

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Five more flights.

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So this story that Alex is opening the show with about the 911 dispatchers not being allowed

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to say Ebola on the radio is not from Fox DC.

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Fox DC did run a story about it with the headline that Alex is reading, but that article is

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just a link to the original story, which is from the New York Post.

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The reasoning behind this- Trustworthy New York Post.

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But the reasoning makes total sense.

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There's tons of people who aren't first responders who listen in on emergency radio channels

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and you could easily imagine how a panic could break out if every call that came in where

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someone was worried that they had Ebola was misinterpreted by someone listening in as

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a definite or probable case.

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People would lose their minds.

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You could really do some damage.

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Did you know that words can have an effect in real life?

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That's weird.

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If you actually read the New York Post article, this is exactly what it's about.

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A source speaking to the post said, quote, just like you can't say bomb on an airplane,

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we can't say Ebola.

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Back in the 80s and 90s, taking universal precautions meant someone had AIDS.

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We weren't allowed to say AIDS then either.

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Dr. Jay Varma, the deputy commissioner of the city department of health, gave some idea

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of how many opportunities there had been for false panics to start.

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Quote, we have now had about 133 calls since July concerning patients with possible Ebola

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symptoms and all 133 were false alarms.

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That's alarming.

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Yeah, and people listening in could have taken any one of those 133 and tried to present

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it as like, look, look at all these people, they're covering up all these cases.

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It could be really dangerous.

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You could definitely get into a fear mongering panic where somebody like Alex Jones convinces

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you that you need to buy survival food.

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Yeah, so from an emergency response perspective, I do see how it could be best practices to

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use language that wouldn't necessarily be exploitable by people who may have ill will

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and are listening in on your communication.

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Right, which is unfortunate because, boy, it would be nice if we were just allowed to

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say words.

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Or even, let me even walk what I'm saying back.

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It's not even necessarily people with ill will.

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Some people could just get confused.

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Just panic entirely, just already be paranoid.

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So as for that nurse story, that was true, sort of.

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It's true that she did fly the day before she was diagnosed with Ebola, but experts

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don't believe that it was as big a deal as it sounds.

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The first reason is that at the time of her flying, she wasn't exhibiting symptoms that

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would put people at high risk, like vomiting.

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Even so, Thomas Frieden, then the director of the CDC, was clear that, quote, she should

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not have flown on a commercial airplane.

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And he immediately put in place guidelines that anyone who had been exposed to somebody

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with Ebola would only travel by way of controlled movement like private flights and chartered

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vehicles.

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Whoa, whoa, whoa, immediate?

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Well, prior to that, this was just recommended by the CDC.

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But after, quote, the agency would work with state and local authorities to enforce this

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restriction.

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I found a Washington Post article about this, and it seems to directly contradict Alex's

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claims about there being five more flights before the plane was cleaned.

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From that article, quote, the plane, Vinton, that's the nurse, traveled on, arrived in

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Dallas at 816 p.m. on Monday and remained overnight because it was done with flights

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for that day.

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And then when we found out she had Ebola, we blew that shit to the moon.

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We exploded it all over the fucking place.

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After that, the plane received a thorough cleaning per our normal procedures before

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resuming service Tuesday, Frontier said in a statement.

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I was able to find the article that Alex is misrepresenting.

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There was a piece in the Denver Post with the headline, quote, emails out to passengers

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on five Frontier flights after Ebola patient flew.

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As it turns out, the airline did send notification to the people who were on the same plane that

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the nurse had flown on, but it wasn't because they hadn't cleaned it.

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It was out of an abundance of caution.

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The plane had been cleaned, but later the nurse was diagnosed with Ebola, and by that

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point that anyone knew anything, the plane had already flown five additional flights

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the next day.

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Informing the customers is definitely the right thing to do in terms of making sure

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everyone's informed.

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Totally.

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Even if you followed every preventative, appropriate step, it's still above board to tell people.

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Yeah, absolutely.

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So they can make their own choices from a healthcare perspective.

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Yeah, no, and not telling people would be a far greater scandal for you.

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You know, if everybody found out a week later, they'd be like, fuck you guys!

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It would be wrong.

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Yeah, yeah, yeah.

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It would be negligent.

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This article points out that after this nurse was diagnosed, the plane was going to undergo

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even further cleaning, quote, including replacement of seat covers and carpet in the vicinity

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of the passenger's seat, but this still doesn't support Alex's all they did was pick up trash

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narrative.

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Sure, sure.

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I think he's just trying to scare people.

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I think we should treat all diseases like the Velveteen Rabbit and just immediately

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burn everything involved.

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Everywhere.

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I think that might be going a little bit...

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The plane.

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Pendulum the other direction.

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The airport.

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Everything.

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The whole place.

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Uh huh.

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Yeah.

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All stocks and bonds in the airline.

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We've seen what it's like to live through a pandemic.

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We have not seen what it's like to burn everything to the ground in case one starts.

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I'm just saying that we should go the other direction.

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You make some interesting points.

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Yeah.

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I would love to live in a world where we still have a pandemic and then also everything is

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burning.

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Great.

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That would be, that would probably be an issue.

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You're probably right.

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So Alex is covering this news and I will say he has a classy take on things.

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He's dealing with things in a really, just a newsman.

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We are the Ebola vomit bag, the Obama, excuse me, Ebola toilet.

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You know, memes are very, very powerful and that's why we've launched this contest that's

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only running for another week to go to infoawards.com forward slash contest, print off the flyers,

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hang them up, shoot video of it, send us the video, we'll post it and then a week later

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on Halloween, I will announce the winner.

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Hashtag Ebola contest.

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Oh boy.

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Wow.

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Hashtag Ebola contest.

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Wow.

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Hashtag Ebola contest.

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And it's contest, as best I can tell, is he has posters that are advertising for info

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wars and you record yourself putting them up faces or something.

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I think this is a weird contest.

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I think it's just, Hey, could you be my street team?

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I think what we've realized here is that Alex is paid by big disease in order to spread

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disease.

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Man, it's, it's really weird.

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You would think that somebody engaging responsibly with the topics they were covering wouldn't

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be like, Hey, let me try and use this as a cheap stunt meme promotional opportunity.

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Here's a possible pandemic that could murder and incapacitate millions of people.

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We need a contest to advertise my shit based on that.

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Yeah.

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That's a good dude.

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Yup.

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So, um, to Alex's credit or not, I'm not sure I'll let you decide.

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He doesn't spend the entire show talking about Ebola.

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Well, that's nice.

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He also gets around to some nonsense narratives about how Christians are under attack.

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Oh, that's good.

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We have just absolutely over the top important news on the Ebola front, on the economic front,

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on the second amendment front, on the police state front with Houston, literally trying

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to intimidate churches and to not giving sermons that criticize transsexual, uh, behavior or

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homosexuality and a lot of libertarian groups have been coming out.

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And even though they are open to other lifestyles, cause the libertarians, uh, they are defending

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these preachers because if you're going to have your right to live the way you want somebody

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else has to have their right to live and, and, and, and speak as they see fit, flaming

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authoritarianism pun intended out of the Houston mayor and the rest of them at best that's

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wordplay suing churches.

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This is what Europe and Canada are doing.

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This is the model.

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Everything you see with political correctness out of Europe and Canada is coming here.

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They arrest preachers that criticize homosexuality.

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So this isn't going to surprise you, but Alex is lying about this story.

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I'm not surprised.

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Here's what happened in 2014 Houston passed an equal rights ordinance that included protections

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for members of the LGBTQ community in terms of housing, employment and what have you.

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This was on the vanguard of the right wing panic about trans people in bathrooms.

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So one of the hot button issues was that, uh, according to an article in the Washington

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post quote, transgender people barred access to a restroom would be able to file a discrimination

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complaint.

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Right.

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It's worth noting that religious entities were also exempted from this ruling.

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So they weren't even, so they weren't even involved, right?

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A group of citizens filed a lawsuit aimed at repealing the ordinance as part of the

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uh, and as part of that lawsuit, quote, city attorneys issued subpoenas to five local pastors

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during the cases discovery phase.

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These pastors were alleged to have connections to the people who filed the lawsuit and were

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active in the effort to repeal the ordinance.

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So the attorneys requested quote, all speeches, presentations or sermons related to hero.

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That's the ordinance, the petition mayor, a niece, Parker, homosexuality or gender identity

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prepared by delivered by revised by or approved by you or in your possession.

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Sure.

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The question that was being posed by these subpoenas were whether or not these pastors

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were using their churches as political organizing grounds, which would put their tax exempt

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status in jeopardy.

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Since Texas exempt churches, quote, are not allowed to engage in partisan politics.

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By October 16th, the day that Alex is here on air, controversy had been raging about

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this and the subpoena was revised to just ask for quote, all speeches or presentations

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related to hero or the petition prepared by delivered by revised by or approved by you

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or in your possession.

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Right.

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And as we know now that we live in the future, the government really cracked down on that

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and churches were no longer allowed to advocate for political positions from the pulpit.

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That would just be wrong, Dan.

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Didn't you see so many churches across this country after Trump was elected?

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Didn't you see them lose their five oh one C three status all over the place for advocating

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for political positions?

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I, it's just terrible.

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Anyway, this is a complex topic that gets into a lot of those issues more than anything

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else.

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You know, you could make an, uh, an argument that there was overreach and over broadness

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in terms of the subpoenas that were, uh, put out by the city attorneys.

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Oh sure.

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I think that is a fair position you could take.

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But Alex is reporting this as like they're suing these churches.

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No, no.

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Someone sued the city and the city is doing discovery.

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Yeah.

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Anyway, he just wants to take this and uh, you know, he wants to boil it down into a

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misrepresentation that's easier for his audience to understand and more importantly, be mad

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about.

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Yeah.

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Just trying to make it about fucking out of control PC culture.

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It's nonsense.

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It would be nice if Christ had lived and just been super cool because then maybe Christians

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wouldn't constantly feel like playing the victim is the only way to deal with life.

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I don't know.

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What if Christ was just a cool dude?

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What if Christ was just like the Buddha and he got old and everybody's like, man, you

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kicked ass.

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Good work.

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That would be great.

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He uh, invented hang loose.

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Exactly.

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First person to say cowabunga.

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So Jordan, I gotta say one of the things I didn't expect, um, on this episode as I was

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getting into it, because you know, Ebola is a pretty big topic and it certainly has mirrors

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and echoes in our current, uh, COVID-19, uh, situation, but I didn't expect as a large

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portion of this episode would end up becoming a movie review.

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That I believe and did expect.

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Yeah.

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I was a little bit surprised.

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Is he still on Oblivion?

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No.

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Okay.

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The movie review is about the movie Kill the Messenger about Gary Webb.

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Okay.

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It's very personal for Alex because he apparently knew Gary Webb.

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Oh, I did not know that.

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Now, this might be a little too personal.

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Okay.

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Alex seems to be dealing with some stuff after watching this movie and he might make a confession

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that first of all, I don't believe is true, but if true proves that Alex Jones is the

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worst fucking, uh, outlaw radio truth teller, whistleblower guy, listen to this bullshit.

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I went and saw Kill the Messenger last night and I expected it to be a whitewash.

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I expected it to imply that he killed himself and it was absolute truth because I remember

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Gary Webb being on the show more than 10 times.

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I had all these incredible conversations with Gary Webb off air.

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He wanted me to build a website for him.

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He sent me all these documents that the CIA had broken in his house a bunch to try to

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get.

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I was too busy making films and making babies with my wife.

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He was, I remember he called back the last time I talked to him a few months before he

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committed suicide and he said, Hey man, Alex, I thought you had the courage to put this

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up and do something.

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I said, yeah, there's thousands of pages of this stuff and a lot of this is court records

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and stuff.

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And I go, I guess I'll put it out because, well, I thought you've got balls.

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I mean, these are epic conversations I have with Gary Webb.

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Now a hit movie out about him and it was so surreal to be sitting there in the movie theater.

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I ignored that guy and knowing his whole story and it was so accurate.

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I am baffled by this movie review.

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I think there's a small part of Alex that's pissed off that he's not in the movie.

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And then second, it's very weird that he's like, yeah, you know what?

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I had that dude giving me all this secret documentation that the CIA was trying to kill

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him for having.

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I was busy, I didn't do shit with him.

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I was making babies with my wife, so I wasn't interested in those thousands of CIA coveted

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documents that would blow the lid off of everything.

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But come on guys, she's ovulating.

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What am I going to do?

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I do think this isn't true.

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Like I think that his story is not true, but it's interesting the way he gets himself off

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the hook for having not broken things.

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Like, he's like, I was busy, I was making documentaries.

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I was busy breaking other stories.

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I didn't have time for this.

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So let me ask you a question.

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In the beginning, I thought I heard him say, I thought they were going to whitewash it

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and heavily imply that he did commit suicide.

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Which he did.

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And then he said, which suggests to me that he thinks he didn't.

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He did.

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Yeah, Alex thinks that he didn't.

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But then later on, he said a few days before he committed suicide.

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Right.

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Okay.

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Yep.

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All right.

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So.

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Yeah.

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Okay.

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That might've just been Alex's like sort of subconscious sneaking through and being

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like, you know.

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You know he killed himself.

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He wasn't murdered.

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Come on, man.

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You know, one of the reasons I think this is all bullshit is this.

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I'm not even here bragging.

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Oh my gosh, this show is important.

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I felt incredibly guilty.

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That I don't even know where that disk is.

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That CD-ROM that I opened up and it was just, I don't know how to process all this stuff.

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I need to tear apart our storage buildings and find that.

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And then I don't even want to talk about how I had that disk because you're like killing

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people over this stuff.

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And then I went and searched last night when I got home, I went to bed and then I woke

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up in the middle of the night and went and searched for like an hour at 3 AM, 4 AM.

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And I couldn't even find one interview I did with Gary Webb.

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Kind of makes me think maybe you didn't interview him.

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I mean, I bet he did.

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I could see that absolutely having happened, but like I wonder at a certain point, you

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kind of got to wonder, it's like, did you imagine all of this?

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Did you dream this?

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Did you have a quiet conversation with Gary Webb in your head?

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Yeah.

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You know, like you have the CIA to kill anybody who has all this information and like Alex

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has the CD-ROM that Gary Webb had given him.

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CIA was following him.

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They wouldn't know that he made the handoff with Alex, absolutely.

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But the CIA is like, fuck it, Alex is just going to lose it.

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Come on.

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I mean, he's got a, it's in an AOL sheath.

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We don't need to worry about this.

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That fucking dude doesn't even have a file cabinet.

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Look, I was surveilling him the other night.

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He's just too busy fucking his wife.

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They're trying to make babies.

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I'm sorry.

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He just doesn't have time to expose us.

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It's not even like that disc.

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It's not even in an AOL sleeve.

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It's in a Moody Blues album cover that he is just, it's lost.

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He's never going to find that thing.

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16-bit floppy.

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That's what he's got.

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This is weird.

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I don't know.

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I put myself even in the foot shoes.

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The foot shoes.

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The foot shoes.

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Of Alex.

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I imagine.

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When there was only one set of foot shoes.

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That's when I was carrying you.

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That's when I was carrying Gary Webb.

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I feel like if there was a bone of authenticity in Alex's body, the second that the guy who

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wrote Dark Alliance is giving you a CD of secret documents.

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You drop everything.

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This is a priority.

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Do you remember when Snowden released shit?

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Every news organization was like, okay, we're going to put 15 people on this.

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We're all going to read every single one of these documents and we're going to write stories

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about it immediately.

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Greenwald wasn't like, I'm making Police State 2000.

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I'm busy.

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I'm sorry, guys.

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I'm busy.

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I want to start a family.

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I'm adopting kids.

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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What am I supposed to do?

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Have you ever tried to adopt kids in America from Brazil?

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I don't want to shit on the idea of prioritizing family and what have you.

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That's all good.

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Sure.

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If you're somebody who fancies yourself an investigative journalist whose mission it

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is to get to the bottom of the nefarious doings of the globalists, this behavior strikes me

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as very out of character.

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The tip of the spear was busy elsewhere, if you know what I'm saying.

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That spear was a.

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So there's a sense that I got from listening to this that like Alex seems to think that

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that movie might be about him.

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And then watching how they demonized him and how they tried to kill his name before they

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physically killed him and experiencing a lot of this myself, it was a surreal, I've never

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gone and seen a movie where from what I know, it was so incredibly accurate and so incredibly

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sad.

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And then I resonated with it because they always make it about the individual.

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If they can't disprove your facts, they just demonize and destroy the individual themselves.

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And I got a sick feeling in my stomach as I realized that the clocks just tick until

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they come and shoot me in the head twice or plant drugs on me or shoot me at a checkpoint

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or something.

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And it just it made me sad to watch all the cowards, his editors and like you, you literally

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said that you didn't have Jesus Christ, so sad for watching his cowards.

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He gave all those documents to those editors and they didn't do shit with them.

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They told him, we're not going to put those out.

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He gave a CD-ROM to every one of his editors.

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A little bit of an asshole.

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A bunch of cowards.

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A little bit of an asshole-ish review.

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I mean, I was just out of, I was just doing a documentary.

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Sure.

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I'm not a coward.

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Yeah.

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Hey, look, I don't get into Shadowgate.

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Yeah, exactly.

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Look, I don't get into that kind of deep shit.

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Turns out that behavior has been pretty consistent throughout his career.

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I think he might be faking a lot of this.

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I think he might be.

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So we get back to Ebola here and this clip to me was actually one of the more interesting,

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the glimpses into how Alex operates in these circumstances.

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The people that are supposed to be cleaning the aircraft are told that they can't wear

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masks and gloves.

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Aircraft coming in out of West Africa in some cases with vomit in them because it'll quote

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scare people.

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We're going to get to those articles in a moment.

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Experts offer steps for avoiding public hysteria, a different contagious threat.

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So we've been talking about the hysteria being a bigger problem than Ebola itself.

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Well, now the New York Times is reporting on it today.

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I just thought that the juxtaposition of those two stories is fascinating.

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In the first one, Alex is claiming that vomit filled airplanes are arriving in the United

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States from West Africa and not being cleaned, obviously trying to create the impression

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in his audience's mind.

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There are so many more cases of Ebola in the United States than were being told.

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Correct.

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It's a narrative that can really only lead to people freaking out and behaving irrationally.

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Right.

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But the New York Times says that freaking out in hysteria is just as bad as the Ebola.

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And Alex, he's saying then that Infowars has been saying all along that public hysteria

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is a bigger problem.

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Don't freak out about this!

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Ebola's everywhere, but freaking out is crazy.

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How can he possibly not understand that everything he does exists only to heighten hysteria?

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Yeah.

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Thinking about how the border is wide open and vomit planes are arriving is not only

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factually untrue, but it's also designed to scare people.

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Alex understands that, and it's one of the things that he does on his show that I think

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is incredibly abusive.

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It's that trying to push and pull simultaneously in people's minds, and it's not good.

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No, he's in a weird, almost experiment of...

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His experiment to me of listening to his show would be somebody sitting in a chair strapped

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down and every five minutes just a little jolt is given to the emotional center of their

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brain, and you just have to sit there for four hours and feel this constant emotional

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pressure.

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Yeah.

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Yeah?

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Yeah.

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In my experience, I don't think...

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That's not wrong.

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It's not that far off.

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I disconnect from it so it doesn't affect me as much listening to it.

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You removed that little part of your brain.

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I imagine that that part of the brain would be very antagonized if you believed anything

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he said.

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Yeah, totally.

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But since I don't, I'm a little bit immune.

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You got rubber on your brain.

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Yeah.

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Alex is kind of right in some sense that public hysteria is a very serious concern when it

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comes to public health matters.

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It's just that in this case, he's one of the most hysterical voices you can imagine.

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It's nonsense.

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No, and it's cruel.

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It's cruel to be like, hey, hysteria is crazy, and you're gonna die!

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Like okay, man.

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But maybe not.

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You won't die.

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Maybe not.

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The human's killing you!

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But maybe not.

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Bad!

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Now hold on.

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What's up?

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I thought, listening to the original episode about this period of time and the Ebola situation,

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and listening to the beginning of this episode, I thought, you know, this is horrible, this

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is irresponsible, and then I think it's kind of tasteless to have this Ebola meme contest.

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Right, right, right, right.

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But I didn't think it was that weird.

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It's not weird enough for Alex Jones.

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Here's where it gets weird.

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Okay, good.

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They'd first said that it was her fault and she shouldn't have done it, but now it's admitted

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in NBC News that an Ebola patient who contacted the CDC before a flight agency says was told

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that she could fly even though she was an Ebola nurse, and even though she told them

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she had a fever.

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By the way, I treated the guy that has Ebola, and I'm sick.

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Can I fly?

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You can fly.

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That's like saying, my dog has rabies, and it's foaming at the mouth.

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Should I put it into a schoolyard of kids?

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Yes, put the dog with rabies into the schoolyard.

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Or I found a bat crawling around hissing on the ground.

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Should I pick it up and kiss it?

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Yes, that's a good idea.

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There's a cliff by my house, a thousand feet to Jagged Bottom.

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Should I jump off without a parachute?

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Yes, jump off immediately.

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You have four more examples.

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Ring, hi, I'm a nurse that treated the Ebola patient, CDC.

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Uh-huh, uh-huh.

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Yeah, we know who you are.

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Yeah, you're all over the news.

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Yeah.

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I'm going to fly.

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Of course, this time it wasn't on the news, just had been around an Ebola patient.

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So I was treating an Ebola patient.

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I'm going to fly.

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I have a fever.

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Oh, but dearie, that's a great idea.

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They're not just turning off the defaults.

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They're sending the Ebola kids to school.

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They're not cleaning up the apartment.

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Something weird is going on.

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And why are nurses getting it, but the family isn't getting it?

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Either they're covering up that they have it, or it's what that CIA whistleblower said

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back in the middle of last month here, Mr. Steele, and we should cue that clip up later.

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He said he believed they would release a biological stimulant that wasn't Ebola, but would make

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people sick or even kill them to create a false flag.

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There we go.

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It's a false flag.

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Possibly.

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Hold on.

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Is that Mr. Steele, our buddy?

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That's Robert David Steele.

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Oh yeah, it is.

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I was about to say, yep, that one's got the, yep.

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Multiple time Project Camelot guest who Alex had to disavow after he claimed on Infowars

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that the globalists had children enslaved on Mars bases, Robert David Steele.

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That dude's credibility is incredibly low.

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Yeah.

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Well, you know what?

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When you can't disprove his facts, Dan, you try and go after the guy.

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And I can clearly see you just taking this to a personal place.

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You can't prove that it's not a bioweapon.

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Sure.

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Not my job.

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Steele had been on Alex's show in September to speculate about the possibility of a false

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flag Ebola attack.

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But the fact that he was creating narratives about Ebola at that point isn't really all

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that weird.

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The first case in West Africa from this outbreak was reported in December 2013.

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And by March 2014, there was spreading happening.

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By July, it had reached the capital cities of Guinea, Liberia, and Sierra Leone.

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And according to the CDC, quote, this was the first time Ebola extended out from more

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isolated rural areas and into densely populated urban centers, providing an unprecedented

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opportunity for transmission.

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So Ebola is on the brain as far as any infectious disease is concerned, yeah.

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By August, there were Ebola scares being reported to hospitals in the United States.

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According to the advisory board's timeline, quote, before the end of the month, more than

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60 hospitals reported some type of scare to the CDC, but none of the tests sent to the

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agency returned positive for the virus.

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So at this point, it was in people's minds.

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Right, right, right.

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No, that's what you would be talking about.

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If you were going to say there's an infectious disease coming to the United States, you're

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going to say Ebola.

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It's 100% what you would do.

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Yeah, you're not going to be like, it's the flu.

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No, everybody's thinking about Ebola and is worried about it.

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Yeah, yeah, yeah.

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Robert David Steele had every reason to shoot the shot when he did.

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There was growing insecurity around the outbreak, and it was affecting the psyche of the American

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public.

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If a case did end up coming to the United States, he would look like he was way ahead

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of the story and he had a narrative in place.

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If no case ever arrived here, he could just ignore it or claim that the globalists decided

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to go a different way with their evil plans.

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There's no downside to this kind of spitballing in a consequence-free environment like Infowars.

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Yeah, exactly.

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As for the story about the nurse on the plane, Alex isn't making up that NBC News reported

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that she did in fact check in with the CDC before getting on the plane.

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The problem is that Alex is acting like the CDC has a staff of like 12 people and everyone

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knows everything that's going on.

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This very article that Alex is referencing explains how everything happened.

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At the time, it was believed that this nurse had worn all the appropriate protective gear,

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and as such, she was considered a lower risk category of person, technically titled quote

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uncertain risk.

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Before she flew, the nurse called the CDC and talked to a staffer who quote, looked

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on the agency's website for guidance, the spokesperson said.

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The category for uncertain risk has guidance saying a person could fly commercially if

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they did not meet the threshold of a temperature of 100.4.

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She had a slight fever, but it was below that reading, so technically she wouldn't have

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been barred from flying.

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Director Frieden didn't know that she had contacted the CDC when he made his comment

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that she shouldn't have flown.

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From the NBC News article quote, the spokesperson says he believes Frieden said that because

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it should have been common sense to Vincent that she should not fly with a slight temperature.

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Even though we have a CDC guideline that says you're fine.

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Yeah, I mean look, don't get me wrong, I'm not going to defend all of that, it's bungled.

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It's him kind of saying that the CDC is wrong, not her.

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Probably, yeah.

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We need better guidelines.

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Yeah, exactly.

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This guideline is clearly oversight of some kind.

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I can't see anything more responsible, if you are this person, than literally going

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direct to the CD-fucking-C. Not going to the website, I think it also frustrates me a little

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bit.

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The staffer went to the website.

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The staffer went to the website.

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I don't like that at all.

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That's not lost on me either.

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That's not good.

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I don't like that at all.

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No.

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Seems like maybe, in this case, you should have rotted up the flagpole.

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Yeah, yeah.

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I see no fault of hers at all, other than just being like, why are you flying?

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I see bases being covered in terms of like, clearly no one was acting with malicious intent.

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Absolutely not.

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And there wasn't even like overt negligence, it's just this is how an oversight can happen.

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Maybe we should revise our guidelines.

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It seems like, basically what I'm saying is iffy decisions happened, but it makes sense

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how everything happened the way it did.

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There's certainly not enough here to justify speculating this is a false flag outbreak.

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I would argue the details would suggest anything but a false flag.

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Yeah, and Jordan, I don't know if you're picking up on this, but from where I'm sitting, that

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sounds hysterical as shit.

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Ah, why?

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Oh, God.

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Look, false flags happen, honestly, it's more hysterical for it to not be a false flag.

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Because then it's something surprising.

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As we know, false flags happen every day.

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Does this sound hysterical?

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Let's see.

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Also, does this sound familiar?

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Okay.

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Let's continue here.

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911 emergency dispatcher's instructed not to say Ebola over the radio.

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That's out of Fox News DC.

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They're being told not to create panic and are being given a secret code to describe

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Ebola.

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See, the cover-up's already on.

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As I said, Ebola probably is already spreading in the US.

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They had to let it in and let it breed first, and then they'll say they don't know where

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it all began or where it started and, oh, it's all Obama's fault.

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And it's going to bring in a medical tyranny, forced inoculation, and the Bill and Melinda

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Gates Foundation dedicated to population reduction and the Monsanto vaccine they produced.

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I'm going to say that again.

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Bill Gates, we keep warning you about, people are like, why do you talk about Bill Gates

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so much?

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Because I've studied him.

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He wants to put an Ebola shot in you.

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You think that's going to be good for you?

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God, it's exactly the same.

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Wow.

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Yeah.

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Jesus.

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It's shockingly the same.

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Yep.

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And that probably felt just as real to his audience in 2014 as it does to people listening

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to him now.

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Yep.

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It's outrageous.

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It's just that circumstances were handled differently and, of course, Ebola and COVID-19

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are different.

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Yeah, yeah, yeah.

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They transmit differently.

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They require different responses.

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I heard that.

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I was like, this is amazing.

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It's almost a script.

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It almost felt like you could just take Ebola out and put COVID or coronavirus in and it

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would have just been exactly the same.

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Anything.

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Anything.

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It is kind of-

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Seven years ago.

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It is, I think, illustrative of the level of power that Alex and his ilk had in 2014

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as opposed to in 2019.

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That level of influence was far lesser and their effect was far lesser.

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It's hard not to look at this as a... And it's not, again, there are different diseases.

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It's not a one-to-one comparison by any stretch.

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But it is hard not to look at the difference between 2014 and 2019 and think, no one should

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be held accountable for, at the very least, negligence.

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This is truly a fucked up thing that people need to be held accountable for.

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Well, I think that one of the differences that you see is that people responded kind

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of more appropriately- That's what I'm saying about negligence.

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To people like Alex at that time, or at least people who are actually making decisions and

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being adults.

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We would be like, oh, I don't care.

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And the president wasn't repeating things Alex said.

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Yeah.

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So that's nice.

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Yeah.

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And I think it was better.

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One could make that argument.

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I'm gonna.

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Yeah.

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I don't think it would be a hard one to convince me of.

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So now, if you're somebody who's, I don't know, in the past and you're listening to

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Alex and you're taking some of the stuff that he's saying about Ebola seriously, I would

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say, maybe you should hear this and be like, I'm going to turn this off.

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I mean, I hate to get gross here, but you've heard about the phenomenon in government buildings

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suddenly that people are peeing on the walls and going to the bathroom and cubby holes

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and in the hallways, even though the bathrooms are working perfectly fine and smearing it

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all over the walls.

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This is what mental patients do.

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This is what people who are above the law start doing, is just running around going

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to the bathroom as poop bandits as they're known.

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This is what has now happened.

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This is what's happening.

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There's poop bandits.

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The government is so out of control and drunk on power that they were poop bandits now.

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Hold on.

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Hold on.

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I just literally wrote a screenplay.

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Give me one second.

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Jesus.

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So I didn't know what Alex was talking about and this seemed really silly.

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So I decided to look into it and see if I could figure it out.

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Sure.

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I figured it out.

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So in late August, 2014, there was, there were some stories going around about a particular

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EPA office in Denver, which had quote, been beset by roughly a dozen suspected incidents

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of restroom shenanigans since late 2013, according to emails, memorandums and incident reports.

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Restroom shenanigans.

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Yes.

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That's fun.

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Apparently someone was fucking around and clogging toilets with paper and putting shit

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in the hallway.

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Sure.

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Getting up to all sorts of disgusting nonsense.

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This was clearly the work of an unstable individual who worked at that office.

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Yeah, who is this fucking guy?

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But here, Alex is reporting this as some kind of proof of the corrupt decadence of the government

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elites.

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They're so bored with being tyrants that there's a new phenomenon of everyone shitting in the

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hallway.

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It's just a weirdo getting his rocks off in a really uncomfortable way.

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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All right.

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Okay.

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I love like being able to look back in the past and like seeing the way that these stories

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get like twisted by Alex into being so much larger than they actually are.

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He does in a way create more fantastical, interesting stories because I mean it's obviously

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a fairly interesting story that someone's putting shit in the hallway in an NBA building.

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Sure.

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Sure.

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That's kind of interesting.

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It's more fun to imagine that our government is run by demon tyrants who are so bored that

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they have to shit in the hallway to get off.

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It is kind of funny.

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It implies a lot more interesting stuff is happening.

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See, that's the problem.

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I remember when we lived in a world that wasn't so much like Alex's weird dark circus versions

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of government, and then we lived in one.

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It was bad.

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Yep.

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Yep.

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No good.

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So at this point in 2014, you really had like gentlemen speak freely kind of vibe going

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on at Infowars.

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Oh, that's not good.

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They didn't really have the lawsuits to worry about, so things like this happen.

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Why no protective gear for a man with Dallas Ebola patient?

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We have video of this.

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We'll roll some of it in the background.

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The video from CBS News is up on Infowars.com, prisonplanet.com.

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This lends credence to Rob Dew running around the office thinking this is crisis actors

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because he's been analyzing video and he's worked at national TV, home shopping network.

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You know, he used to be a director there, and so he knows state stuff, and he says that,

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you know, why are people not wearing protective gear with the Ebola patient as we have right

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there?

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And is it people just don't care and they're idiots?

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Or is it staged?

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Or is there a third possibility?

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What would that be?

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So there was a video of people putting that nurse into a plane that was making the rounds,

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and all but one of the people are wearing hazmat suits.

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It definitely looks like fodder for Alex to make a conspiracy out of and for Rob Dew to

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use to justify crisis actor theories, but it's not really that crazy when you get down

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to it or you ask the question and get an answer from somebody.

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This person in the video is not in any direct contact with the patient who's wearing her

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own set of protective gear as well.

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The chances of transmission are incredibly low based on how Ebola goes from person to

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person.

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That being said, I wouldn't do what this dude is doing, but that's just because of me.

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But it might not be that really fucked up or dangerous.

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This very article that Alex is citing in order to talk about the headline includes this passage.

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Quote, when a member of the Dallas CDC team was shown in the video and asked if it was

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a safe moment or not, he said he didn't have a problem with what he saw.

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The situations apparently met CDC protocol because the people in the hazmat suits were

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the ones assisting Vincent, and the plainclothes man was not.

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The CDC spokesman said that the man maintained an appropriate distance from the patient for

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the amount of time on the tarmac, and it must be taken into account that Vincent was

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also wearing protective gear.

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This is how little some idiot like Rob Do needs to justify denying people's illnesses

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and deaths.

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He just needs some video that looks strange that he didn't care to look into at all.

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The thing that I still have a hard time wrapping my head around that we found out from all

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those depositions is at this point in time, apparently only PJ Dubs in the entire InfoWars

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sphere was listening to this going like, yeee, this is a bad idea!

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Stop!

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Blokes!

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Stop it, blokes!

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Yes, exactly!

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Yeah.

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Of all people!

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You know what, that might not be true, but it's the only one we know for sure.

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Yeah, yeah, yeah.

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Because there might have been some lower level functionaries who were being like, this is

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irresponsible.

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There might have been some people who quit, too.

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There might have been some people who got fired, yeah.

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And I think it's probably in those people's best interests that we not know that.

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Because for them to be able to bury the part of their lives that they worked there might

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be.

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It's important.

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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Good for them if they've succeeded.

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Yeah.

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And if they have gone on to live a better life.

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Yeah.

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Let's hope.

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So, it's staged, man.

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This stuff's probably staged.

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I don't think it's staged, but okay.

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I don't know exactly what's going on, but I'll tell you this.

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Most of this is staged, it's scripted, and they clearly want Ebola to spread.

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Now you can fill in the blank of why.

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My head is spinning at this point, and I'm trying to contain my anger, even during the

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breaks I'm trying to contain it.

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Because I think about how they're trying to bring down this country, now they're trying

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to kill our prosperity, it makes me angry.

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But you don't want people to be hysterical.

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No.

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Right?

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No, no, no.

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I mean, I'm furious because they're killing all of us and destroying proper prosperity.

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And they clearly are trying to intentionally spread Ebola, possibly by staging things.

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Yeah, but as the New York Times said.

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As you said, as the New York Times said, hysteria is a big problem too.

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Well, let's keep it grounded.

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Yeah, absolutely.

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Let's keep this real.

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Let's make sure nobody goes too far.

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And Bloomberg two days ago was asking, why weren't they sent to the government facilities

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that are designed for this?

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Because they want it to spread, they want plausible deniability, they probably got sleeper

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cells walking around spreading it.

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I didn't think they'd use Muslim radicals to bring it in before, I thought that was

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just some Islamophobe hype.

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But now it's starting to click that God only knows.

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I think the other shoe is about to drop.

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I think something big is about to happen.

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I've been saying that for months.

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And now you see this breaking loose.

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You can say that for years.

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I think what you're seeing right now might be a diversion for nukes they're about to

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set off.

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Cool.

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Remember all the missing nukes?

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There you go.

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This might be hysterical.

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There you go.

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That might be an issue.

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Might be a little bit hysterical.

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That might be a little bit going too far there.

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Yeah.

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All right.

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Hey, guess what?

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I believe that the government is intentionally spreading Ebola all over the place and it's

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a false flag.

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It's also a diversion from nukes they're about to drop.

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Listen, I don't know what's going on.

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Let me preface by saying I don't know what's going on.

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Now let me certainly describe a false flag attack that, and honestly, I'm going to go

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with a 50-50 shot.

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It's a diversion and you're all going to die immediately.

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Let me go over the top in a comically scary scenario that I'm painting for you as a very

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distinct possibility based on my years of research about how these globalists operate.

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Yep.

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Also, this whole Islamophobic thing, I was like, oh no, I'm not going to engage in Islamophobia.

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But then I saw a video where a guy was walking on a tarmac, so obviously it's the Islamic

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people's fault.

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Probably.

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Yeah.

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That makes sense.

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It's interesting.

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So he's going down this road, you know, like hysteria about Ebola, and then also they're

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going to nuke you.

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Man, we're just in trouble.

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Uh-oh.

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It is just, we have enemies in control that there is no doubt that we are in the most

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grave danger this country has faced in 240 years.

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And I just got hardcore chills.

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I got goosebumps on my face right now that the camera can probably pick up.

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They are getting ready to drop the hammer.

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This is the takedown of the country.

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I'm getting my immune system ready.

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I know that.

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InfoWarsLife.com.

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Boom.

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I'm getting my immune system ready.

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InfoWarsLife.com.

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Boom.

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See, now that is a good, that's a good little super transition there.

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That's a good little ad switch compared to what he does now.

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It kind of hurts the preceding passage for me.

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Absolutely.

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The insanely out of control fear mongering that led up to that kind of.

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Well there's that.

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The relationship between the two does suffer.

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But yes, I guess making people really afraid of a nuke and Ebola would lead them to take

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zinc.

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Uh, yeah.

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I would say that InfoWarsLife plug really only solves one of the two problems that he's

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describing.

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And in fact I would argue the second one kind of wipes out the gains of the first, if you

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will.

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So whatever gains we've lost shall now be recouped.

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Because Alex has a guest.

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And boy howdy.

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This guest.

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Mic down for this.

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Okay.

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Because what this guest says.

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Spoiler alert.

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It's Steve Pajanik.

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Okay.

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What he says.

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It's Stevie Pease?

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Yes.

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Okay.

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Did he cure himself of Ebola?

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No.

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Oh, dammit.

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If we had a complete repeat of the present.

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No.

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That'd be brutal.

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I was hoping.

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Yeah, that would be great.

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No.

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They do mention how like he had recently reported from the demilitarized zone for Alex.

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Sure, sure, sure, sure.

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I recall.

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Noted info wars correspondent Steve Pajanik.

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I recall that he was in Korea for a while.

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He's in the shit.

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So Steve is on and they're talking about Ebola and he directly contradicts something that

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he says in the present.

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Sure.

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That's amazing.

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You're also a medical doctor on top of that so you can speak to Ebola.

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Yes, correctly.

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And more importantly, I was trained at Cornell University Medical College between 64 and

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1968 by a very competent infectious disease doctor who was really the foremost infectious

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disease doctor.

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Don't do it.

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You see him on television.

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That is Anthony Fauci.

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God dammit.

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The director of the National Institute for Infectious Diseases.

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Oh, God dammit.

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God dammit, Dan.

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One you're a witch and two Steve Pajanik is a monster.

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Steve, when he's coming on the show now, talks about how incompetent Fauci is.

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My fucking God.

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I swear to you.

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I hated him ever since I was at Cornell.

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He's a loser.

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This is the worst fucking news you could give me.

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This is so brutal.

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You know who's great?

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Anthony Fauci.

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Oh, it breaks my heart.

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It really breaks my heart.

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It's pretty remarkable to dig back a little bit and see like, you know, this mirror, this

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echo is so, the funhouse mirror is the only way I can describe it.

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It's so bizarre.

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Yeah.

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No, I mean, listen, it's not that I believe the entire world is a prank on me.

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But when Steve says stuff like that, I'm just like, eh, you know what?

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This isn't real.

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So Steve, Steve thinks that the Ebola situation is pretty serious.

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And I would say that outside of it being hilarious that he likes Fauci now and then in the present

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claims to have always hated him or whatever.

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Yeah.

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That's funny, but yeah, a lot of the stuff he's saying, I really don't take much issue

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with.

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Yeah.

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He's saying that this is serious and that Ebola is a very nasty disease and we have

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to do what we can to make sure that responsible steps are taken.

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This isn't bullshit.

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But he does have a, I would say possibly maybe not good plan of action.

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And what I have recommended and repeatedly recommended is that Dr. Friesen of the CDC

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resigned that the CDC be placed on stand down because they really have no, they're not effective.

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They've been inefficient and they have no authoritative capacity to demand either the

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city, the state or any institution to do what's mandatory.

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Instead, I think that Fauci, Dr. Tony Fauci should be given executive privilege or executive

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authority by the president of the United States consistent with 1892 constitutional authority

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on both military powers if need be, because we no longer have the public health service

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which is not functioning.

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Yeah.

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So Fauci should be given executive control to use military resources to deal with Ebola.

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These people are just a joke.

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I can't.

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I love it.

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I can't believe this.

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Yeah.

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This is, this is one of those, you know what's funny?

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It's almost like, it's almost like the Mandela effect.

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It's almost like we're looking back into a past that didn't happen in the present.

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You know what I'm saying?

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Yeah.

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Like this is an alternate universe where.

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But it actually helps me put some pieces together because I always did think it was a little

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bit weird that at the beginning of the coronavirus situation, Alex was painting Fauci as a good

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guy.

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Yeah.

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And he said he made some calls and looked into him and hearing Steve talk about him

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like this, talk about Fauci like this at this point makes me think like, oh, Alex called

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Steve and Steve told him he's cool.

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Steve was like, this is a good guy.

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And then they got the lines from.

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The right wing media decided he's a villain.

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That's interesting.

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Maybe the biggest thing that happens that we need to go back and, and kind of analyze

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is the creation of the feedback loop between the right wing propaganda, creating Trump

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and then Trump echoing right wing propaganda back at them.

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Yeah.

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I don't know how you would ever, I don't know where you would look for that.

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Um, I don't know.

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Kill all the baby Hitlers.

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I think that's what we do.

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I blame Drudge.

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Yeah.

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I would do that too.

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Let's just say it's Drudge.

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It's Drudge's fault.

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It's a bad guy.

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So Alex really wants this to be fake and a false flag.

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Um, and so I was listening to this, uh, part of the episode and it really felt like Alex

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was essentially begging Steve to be like, come on, help me out, man, please.

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Uh, doc, I mean, you believe Sandy hook was staged more and more experts have come out

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and agreed, uh, the Boston bombing, uh, you know, rigged so many other events, nine 11,

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the open funding of ISIS, changing the name from Al Qaeda, all of this is coming out.

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But when you look at this Ebola situation, I'm not saying it's not ravaging Africa.

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I'm not saying it isn't, uh, you know, living in the body longer before the symptoms show

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up 21 days instead of three, it's clearly mutating, getting stronger, but it just, I

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can't believe that this type of ineptitude to bring in Ebola patients, they never did

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that before to let people fly in from West Africa, from ravaged areas.

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When other countries had already banned it months ago, I mean, it appears that ineptitude

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wouldn't be this precise at doing everything they could to grease the skids for Ebola.

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Are you getting any information on them allowing this to spread, to kind of bring in a medical

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tyranny to create a political distraction?

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Are there any motives for this to be a false flag?

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No, not really, because number one, it is very hard to create an epidemic to create

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a false flag.

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Newtown was a false flag because Eric Holder had funded a very dysfunctional governor and

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a dysfunctional town and a bunch of Connecticut State Troopers who were just pathetic and

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it was easy to create and that scenario was nonsense.

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Oh boy.

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Okay.

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Well, interesting answer.

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Yep.

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Yep.

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Although this did, this did make me think, here's what we should do.

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We should call the right-wing terrorists all-white-a.

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That?

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I thought, I thought like the one that was going around before was y'all-kida.

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Was that what it was?

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That was, that was something that I heard Alex yell about before.

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I think I used to say white-kida.

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I think I remember that one.

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Yeah.

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I like all-white-a.

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I'll let you do a meme contest about it.

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Look, dude, the thing that I think is really funny beyond just Steve being like Fauci is

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a great guy, he should have control over everything in the response.

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Yeah, that's brutal.

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Alex being a over-the-top.

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Give me something.

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Give me any reason.

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I mean, and blue sky thinking.

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I don't care.

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Steve.

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I'm begging.

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I don't care what it is.

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Give me even the slightest hint.

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Is there a possible motive?

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Yes.

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Give me the-

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No.

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Just money.

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Just say money.

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You could just say money.

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Ugh.

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No.

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Nah, you're kidding.

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The answer is even more illuminating and that is that it's really difficult to create a

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fake epidemic.

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People wouldn't do that.

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It's not wise.

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It would be a bad idea.

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Yeah.

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Very easy to get out of hand.

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Millions of people could die.

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Yeah.

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Pretty much impossible to control.

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Yep.

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Not a supervillain plan that would really work outside of a movie.

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But the thing that I think is really interesting is that Alex is talking about all of these

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things in almost identical ways.

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Medical tyranny.

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All this stuff.

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He doesn't mention Lockstep at all because he didn't know about that document in 2014.

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No, no, no.

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He knew about it 20 years ago.

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And it wasn't a document called Lockstep.

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He found it back then.

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It's been in there-

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He pretends to have known about all this stuff and is like, no, you didn't.

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This wasn't part of your narratives then.

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No one had shown you this.

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Nope.

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It hadn't made the-

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Because it didn't exist.

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No.

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It existed in 2010.

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Oh, no.

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I mean in the right-wing sphere.

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That's what I'm saying.

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Yeah.

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It hadn't been posted on a stupid blog yet.

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It misrepresented what it was in a way that was profitable.

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And you just see it very clearly.

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Like he just didn't have the mana to do that attack at this point.

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It's kind of telling.

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Yeah.

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I'm just so bummed.

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It's so easy.

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The right-wing propagandist's job is so easy.

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You do the same shit every five years for five years and then restart.

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Every time.

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It's the same shit.

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Yeah.

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It's so boring.

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And God forbid Ebola would have spread more in the United States at this point, but I

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could easily see Alex going a very similar way.

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It's like, they're trying to lock down our businesses because they're afraid of this

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disease.

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Just don't have people cough on you or throw up.

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And the more effort the government puts into stopping it, the more he'd argue that that's

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what they're-

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That's the reason that they released this on us to encroach on our civil liberties.

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You can almost easily see how the playbook operates based on the incredible similar parallels

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you have here.

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Yeah.

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It is really surprising.

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Oh, maybe not.

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No, really.

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I mean, that's what I'm saying.

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You can see it going down the same exact train of thought no matter what time period it is

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because it's the thought process itself that leads you to believe action towards aversion

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is actually causing things.

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It's the thought process itself, not the circumstances.

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What changes is the circumstances allow it to balloon out of control or it's contained.

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Yeah.

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It's deeply cynical and cruel the way that Alex operates in this respect.

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It really is a denial and disregard for the fact that there are people who are suffering

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and dealing with this and a rank disregard for the people who are listening who are probably

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scared and need information.

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They need to have conveyed accurate information that allows them to make appropriate decisions

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like the emails that were sent out to the people who were on the plane after, even though

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there probably wasn't a reason to be worried.

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That's appropriate.

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You're giving the people the information that they need to be able to make appropriate decisions.

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These listeners are tuning into Alex because they think that they're going to get some

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kind of insight that they're not going to get elsewhere and he's lying to them in a

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way that's designed to scare them and just to get them to get their immune system ready

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with the products that he sells over at inflowars.com and...

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As the world economy melts down, gold will go up even as other commodities go down because

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it's an ultimate store of wealth and a hedge against imploding economies and it is up.

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When I heard that bond markets had imploded and the stock market was down so much today,

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I thought, man, I bet gold goes down.

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I said this aloud, but I said, or maybe it'll go up because when I saw that oil was way

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down, I thought, man, I wonder, but man, when I saw gold going up, that's pretty serious

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right there.

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So the other thing is that there are economic impacts that are happening because of the

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Ebola situation.

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There's some like airline stocks are going down.

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There are impacts that are happening and Alex is using that to funnel gold sales.

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Gold started 2014 at $12.05.77 an ounce, peaking on June 30th at $1,327.39 an ounce.

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On October 16th, the day this show was recorded, the price was $12.39, down almost $3 an ounce

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from the day before.

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It would close the year at $1,184.31.

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Nothing Alex says means anything.

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His syndicator at this point is still a guy who owns a gold sales business, so gold is

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super important to his world view in 2014 and it's weird how it's so much less so now.

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So in order to talk about the bond markets falling apart and how gold is great, Alex

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brings in his financial buddy, Max Kaiser.

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Oh God.

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Max Kaiser, I will say, does not give a shit.

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That sounds right.

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He is not taking this seriously at all.

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That sounds right.

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I was so close to Gary North and then it's like all the other crazy stuff in my life.

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Not Gary North, Gary Webb, Gary North, another writer with Oliver North and Gary North.

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And then I didn't break these big CIA drug dealing stories with him because I was just

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like, yeah, I already know all that.

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Sure.

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Come on the air.

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Sure.

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Sell your book.

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Yeah.

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You're a hero.

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Yeah.

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They're trying to destroy you.

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But why?

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Why put out new documents?

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Why put out a website with you, Gary Webb?

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Because they killed him.

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And then he attacked me for saying they killed him.

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But the movie basically says they killed.

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You said, you know, they show that and his wife, his kids, and that they kill him.

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I'm just, I just am speechless.

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How powerful kill the messenger and the story about Gary Webb and his whole surprise and

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all the rest of it is, I mean, it's simply amazing how all his so-called friends turned

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against him when the mainstream media said he was a fraud with no proof.

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Have you seen kill the messenger yet, Kaiser?

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No, no.

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I'm not scared to.

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I just felt like I dropped the ball monumentally, not working with him more, helping get his

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material out, man.

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Oh.

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Coward.

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Why do you think we're still alive?

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We're too pretty.

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You know, people, they, they don't want to kill off such a beautiful, beautiful, especially

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examples of a human species.

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It would just destroy their souls more than what they do on a day to day basis.

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No, come on.

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Gary Webb had a beautiful soul.

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Man, Max Kaiser does not give a shit.

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Wow.

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He is not taking this seriously at all.

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Yep.

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Nope.

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And I kind of, it's a breath of fresh air.

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Yeah, I do like that.

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I do like a little bit of eh, fucking, you know, who gives a shit?

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Come on.

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Come on.

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We're too pretty.

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Too pretty.

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Their interview ends with Alex comes in from break and he's singing along with balls to

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the wall.

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Sure.

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And he's talking about how this is a, you know, an air, like a pilot term, you know,

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jam in the throttle.

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Yeah, yeah, yeah.

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And then it's also about the Berlin Wall, you know, and, uh, he's talking about how

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this is a protest song and a little bit later, Max Geiser's like, I gotta make a correction.

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That's about going balls deep.

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It's actually a sincerely kind of funny moment and Alex, I think he knows that it's funny

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that he doesn't know how to play along with it.

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So he's like, this is a family show, Max Geiser, oh, he's a dirty, but he's a dirty guy.

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Can't do a two man game.

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Just can't do it.

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He's a bad scene partner.

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But again, it was this Max Geiser just kind of like, he operates outside of the grifts

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that are going on.

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Cause he's scamming and stuff, but I think he's so rich that he doesn't care.

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That's fair.

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Yeah.

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That's the type of rich that, uh.

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He's got fuck you money.

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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I think that's nobody, you know, only insane people want to be billionaires.

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I think everybody wants that point of just like, uh, fuck these guys, you know, that's

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what you really want.

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Yeah.

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I can go on to Alex's show and perpetuate max coin or whatever.

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I can try and sell whatever thing that I'm doing and that can be fun, but I don't need

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it.

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I can also fuck with Alex.

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Just a millionaire.

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Yeah.

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I also have a show on RT.

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I don't need his platform either.

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Yeah.

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I don't know.

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It's weird.

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But someone who does need Alex's platform very desperately.

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All right.

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Ted Anderson joining us on short notice from California, uh, the owner of the GCN radio

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network.

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He also is one of the biggest private gold dealers with a triple a rating from the better

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business Bureau.

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Something you can't say of most other gold dealers out there.

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This ride by my gold for 20 years, about 19 years, he's been a sponsor for 19.

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I've worked in this time slot for 18 years.

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I never wanted to go up against rush Limbaugh.

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Ted said, no, we're going to do it.

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You know, he's got a monopoly in cities and a lot of stations, you know, want to have

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a show to go up against it.

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You're on here, not at night, if you want to work at this network.

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So here I am.

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And funny enough, I'm now beating rush Limbaugh in ratings wherever I'm put up against him,

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even on smaller stations.

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Are you, I highly doubt that.

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Do you think so?

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No.

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Do you really think so?

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I mean like, yeah, some stations can't afford Russia syndication rates and Alex's is free.

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So yeah, sure.

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It makes sense.

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I imagine.

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So, yeah, Ted's Ted's just on to sell gold.

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Alex is out here like Ted Ebola is causing problems.

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We need you on quick to sell gold.

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Yeah.

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I've been panicking people all day, but he's not onto pitch gold.

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Now is the time.

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And I didn't mean to even get him onto pitch gold with Midas.

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But folks, if you wait until the fall where it historically goes up, if you wait until

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there is a big rush, it's already up 20 something bucks today.

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Can we pull that up for me CNBC?

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Now is the time, I believe, to get into gold and silver, or at least get some of the books

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or financial prospectus documents that Midas Resources has.

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And then like a year later, Ted would lose his license because he's a...

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Because he's a scamming.

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Thief.

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Scammy guy.

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He's a fraudster.

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Yeah.

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And so, I mean, like this is kind of the payoff, the prestige of the panic and the fear that

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Alex has been building throughout the episode with his hysterical nonsense, his talking

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about the bond markets falling apart.

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That part with Max Keiser is a nice bridge to the interview with Ted Anderson in order

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to funnel people to give them the solution to the problem.

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We've created this problem that is...

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False flag Ebola, a nuclear strike.

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Right?

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Yeah, yeah, yeah.

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You've got to retain your money somehow.

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And the only way your assets are going to be safe is with this guy, Ted, my buddy who

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I've been working with for 19 years.

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Buy some bullion you've never seen and have him put it in a lockbox you don't know is

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real.

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It's safe.

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It's fine.

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Yeah.

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Yeah, so I mean, I look back on this.

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I mean, I don't care what Ted has to say.

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It's just about gold.

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Yeah, of course.

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But looking back on this episode, it was shocking to me.

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I mean, the reason that I chose it, like honestly, had nothing to do with Ebola.

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I didn't know that this episode was about Ebola.

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I just saw Steve Pacanik's name.

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You're a witch.

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Yeah.

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You're a witch.

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So I was like, I got a fucking 2014 Steve Pacanik, boom, let's do this.

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Let's see what he's bringing to the table.

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And I started listening to it.

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Love Dr. Fauci is what he's bringing to the table.

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God damn it.

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So bizarre.

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Fuck you.

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It's so bizarre.

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Fuck you.

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I want to throw a tomato at Steve Pacanik because of this now.

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You see the dark, twisted, like distorted version of the narratives that are being

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sold in the present about coronavirus being applied to Ebola in seven years prior, just

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with completely different clothes.

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Back then, they could fuck around with crisis actor stuff because they hadn't been checked

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on that front.

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And so Rob Doo thinks that maybe these people with Ebola are fake.

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Anthony Fauci wasn't somebody that Trump got into a fight with.

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And so he's a hero that Steve studied under at Cornell and they're tight.

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He should have control of the military apparatus to deal with Ebola.

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I think it's fascinating.

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It does strongly reinforce my theory that Alex is full of shit.

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I would say that if not definitive proof, I would argue that the totality of our work

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is definitive proof.

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This might be a good argument not to take them seriously.

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Although if you need further proof, go to Dr. Fauci.

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Poop bandits.

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Yes.

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Poop bandits.

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Poop bandits.

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Yeah.

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Oh boy.

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So I hope you had fun.

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I did.

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Enjoying my wizardry.

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I do.

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I love when you bring witchcraft to the table, Dan.

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I'm uncomfortable with how kind of regular an occurrence it is.

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It is really kind of frustrating.

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Again, Dan, everything is a prank on me.

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I'm beginning to believe that thoroughly.

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Well, here's Ashton Kutcher.

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Yeah.

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Goddamn it.

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The coronavirus didn't happen.

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Son of a bitch, Ashton.

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That would be an elaborate plan.

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Yeah.

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If I was the only one who actually quarantined this entire time, yeah.

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That would be interesting.

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Yep.

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I don't think it's feasible.

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Although I did read a white paper.

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I've seen a lot of false flags in the past.

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Also, the other thing, before we get out of here, that I was thinking about.

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That was with Alex.

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It's just a joke that he says, I have the documents.

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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I mean, he's claiming that he has these documents from Gary Webb.

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It's like, do you?

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Or are they lost?

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Yeah.

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Or did they ever exist?

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So anytime that he says he has the documents, it might be just some CD rom that may or may

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not exist in a warehouse somewhere that he has no fucking idea that should be protected

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like the Holy Grail.

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You would think that that would be so fastidiously organized, seeing as how it's proof of all

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the conspiracies that have ever been.

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Well, maybe not proof of all of them, but at least the building block that would get

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you to where something is solidly proven that you can maybe build from.

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Yeah.

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And I think that would be really important for him because as far as I can tell from

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the bedrock of so many of these conspiracies, primary sources that you go back to, they

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just don't hold up.

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So if he did have these secret classified documents, you would fucking handcuff it

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to your wrist.

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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That would be ridiculous to imagine that you would.

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No, absolutely.

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Especially after Gary Webb dies.

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In the episode that we did not record, I played this clip for you.

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The two guys that we were talking about watched a 20 minute conspiracy theory video and I

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only played you one clip from it and it was the guy narrating it say, about a month ago

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I lost all of it and it's like, oh, fuck off.

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There is a certain irony to us complaining about this when we're only recording this

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episode because of a tech glitch, although we didn't prove anything in that episode.

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No, I think that was more an observation.

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Yeah.

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It was just some laughs were had that will never be had publicly.

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Anyway, Jordan, this has been fun.

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This has been fun.

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Yeah.

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Sorry that your episode got lost.

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Oh, it'll be okay.

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We'll let you take the wheel again here in the near future.

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Sometimes soon.

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I'm sure you can find something that we can go over.

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Anyway, but, uh, but for now, let's, uh, let's end this.

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Okay.

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Let's travel back to the present.

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All right.

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All right.

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All right.

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Uh, we'll be back.

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But until then, Jordan, we have a website.

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We do have a website.

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It's a thanks to Mr. Peabody for bringing us back to the present.com.

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We're also on Twitter.

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We are on Twitter.

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It's that knowledge.

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I'll just go right now.

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Go to bed.

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Jordan.

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We're also on Facebook.

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If you could please find a local charity or bail fund in your area to help out people

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doing God's work right now.

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Yep.

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We'll be back.

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But until then, I'm Neo.

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I'm Leo.

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I'm DZX Clark.

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I'm Daryl Rundis.

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I am the leader of the Poop Bandits.

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Andy in Kansas.

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You're on the air.

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Thanks for holding.

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Hello, Alex.

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I'm a first time caller.

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I'm a huge fan.

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I love your work.

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I love you.