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Dan and Jordan, I am sweating!

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I have great respect for Knowledgefight.

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Knowledgefight.

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I'm sick of them posing as if they're the good guys, saying we are the bad guys.

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I love your work.

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Knowledge Fight.

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Knowledge Fight.

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Hey everybody.

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Welcome back to Knowledge Fight.

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I'm Dan.

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I'm Jordan.

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We're a couple dudes.

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I like to sit around, drink novelty beverages, and talk a little bit about Alex Jones.

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Oh, indeed we are, Dan.

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Jordan.

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Dan.

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Jordan.

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Quick question for you.

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What's your bright spot today?

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Well, interestingly, I guess here's a bright spot.

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It's going to be a paradoxical bright spot.

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All right.

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I was telling you about this before we started recording about how I had some trouble with

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Xfinity trying to move.

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I got my move papers in or whatever, made my request for the transfer of service, and

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they got the date wrong.

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Of course.

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Xfinity?

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Yeah.

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Oh.

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It was amazing.

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Crazy.

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Instead of my move date, they turned off my internet on Friday night.

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That is not good.

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Of course.

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Because I need the internet in order to do the show and post episodes.

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We do a show.

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Exactly.

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Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

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Anyway, that doesn't seem like it would be a bright spot, but the bright spot was while

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I was talking to the person, I had a zen moment.

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They were a parody of themselves.

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They were doing such a bad job with customer service and trying to give me what I needed

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as a customer that I was just like, what is the point?

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Why be mad anymore?

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Why would I yell at this guy?

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He can't do anything.

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I can't do anything.

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This company just sucks.

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You suddenly felt the shape of the universe.

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You were like, all is one and it's all garbage.

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I kind of did.

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Got it.

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I understand things now.

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I was torn between trying to explain to this guy that any decent person who worked there

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would quit and then just realize, yeah, people need a job.

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What the fuck's wrong with me?

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So I just gave up.

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I just get drunk and call people who work at Fox News and I'm like, you got to quit,

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man.

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I just gave up and laughed.

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That's all you can do sometimes.

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Yep.

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That's basically it.

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So how about you?

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Oh, I have a combination dark spot, bright spot.

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Oh, interesting.

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We're doing the yin and yang.

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Today is today is both all is one.

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So from time to time, I like to go play a stick ball with a couple other guys.

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We just play a little, a little thing.

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Everybody newsy.

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Exactly.

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No, it was, it was weird.

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I found him outside of a open mic one night playing at the, this is like guys or a stick

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ball.

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No, don't even worry about him.

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There's a lot of backstory.

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There's a lot of boring backstory.

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But anyways, play with a little tennis ball, some, some stick ball bats.

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We have a grand old time.

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Sounds like it.

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We were playing in Bucktown and on Milwaukee, like main street mill fucking walkie.

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There was a guy who had strong proud boy vibes, all black pants, shirtless with terrible tattoos

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everywhere.

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That sounds like a guy wearing a black bandana for a mask.

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That's huge looking like a horrible, horrible human being.

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And he started harassing what looked like a middle aged Latinx woman and all in full

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view of us.

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And there were plenty of people walking by and nobody was fucking doing anything.

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So we wound up running and chasing this dude off your stick ball game.

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Yeah.

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The whole stick ball game wound up chasing this fucking dude off, which was, and that

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was our responsibility.

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Sure.

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That wasn't like a, we did a good deed for the day.

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That was like, that's what's expected of you in fucking society.

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It's just nice that your stick ball team is all in the same.

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We're all in this fucking, yeah, let's beat the shit out of this dude.

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And we just chased him off and I didn't get into a fight, so I'm not in jail so we can

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still do the show.

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Everything's great.

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That is a bright spot.

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And she made it home safely.

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We helped her get into her, I assume daughter's car and they, everybody was great.

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That's fantastic.

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Yeah, yeah, yeah.

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It was a good day.

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Yeah, absolutely.

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So Jordan, today we've got an interesting episode of Alex Jones' show to go over.

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We're going to be talking about June 11th, 2020.

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I'm Dan.

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This is 2020.

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God damn it.

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That is Thursday of last week.

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And how are we doing?

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Good day.

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Not a lot going on Thursday.

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This episode is a bit much.

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It's a bit much.

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It's a bit much.

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For us.

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For me.

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Okay.

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I honestly think that at a certain point in this episode, I might hit a point where I'm

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going to express that someone needs to take Alex Jones off air.

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Like someone should sue him.

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Someone needs to, like this is getting really dangerous on this Thursday show.

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Okay, good.

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So we'll get into that.

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But before we do, Jordan, we're going to take a moment to say thank you to some folks who

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have signed up and are supporting the show.

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So first, David B. Thank you so much.

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You are now a policy wonk.

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I'm a policy wonk.

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Thank you, David B.

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Thank you.

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Next, Dan on West Grand.

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Thank you so much.

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You are now a policy wonk.

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I'm a policy wonk.

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Thank you very much, Dan.

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Thanks, Dan.

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Great name.

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Next, Josh G. Thank you so much.

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You are now a policy wonk.

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I'm a policy wonk.

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Thanks, Josh.

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Thanks, Josh.

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Next, Tessa F. Thank you so much.

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You are now a policy wonk.

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Thank you very much.

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Feline Contessa.

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I was thinking the same thing and I didn't say it.

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I gave you the chance.

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Next, Jake W. Thank you so much.

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You are now a policy wonk.

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Thank you, Jake.

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Thanks, Jake.

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Next, Greg T. Thank you so much.

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You are now a policy wonk.

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I'm a policy wonk.

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Is that Greg T. Nelson?

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Could be.

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Is that him?

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Yeah.

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And then finally, I'd like to say thank you to a couple of people who donated on an elevated

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level.

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Thank you so much, so first of all, Odesma, thank you so much, you are now a technocrat.

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And Allie V. Spelled A-L-L-Y V-E-E, all one word.

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Thank you so much.

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You are now a technocrat.

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I'm a policy wonk.

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Crikey, mate, that's fantastic.

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Have yourself a brew.

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How's your 401k doing, bro?

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All right, we got to go full tilt boogie on this, Watson, all right?

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Let's just get down to business.

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We ain't making that money off that heroin.

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Why are you pimps so good?

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My neck is freakishly large.

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I declare info war on you.

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Thank you so much, Odesma, and thank you so much, Allie V.

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Yes, thank you very much to the both of you.

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We appreciate that very much, and if you're out there listening and you're thinking, hey,

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I enjoy this show, I'd like to support what these gents do, you can do that by going to

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our website, knowledgefight.com, clicking the button that says support the show, we

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would appreciate it.

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Or if you'd like to, please feel free to take that generosity, bundle it up real nice, put

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some gift wrapping on it, and shuttle it off for a Christmas present in the middle of June

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for a charity in your local area that helps people in need.

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Yeah, that sounds good.

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Whatever that was.

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So before we get going on today's episode, I wanted to bring something up because I got

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a couple of messages about this, and it was really helpful for me, and I just want to

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give a correction and slight apology in case this is something that rubbed anyone else

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who didn't contact me the wrong way.

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But I did not realize that I was using the incorrect term for indigenous people in Australia

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on a recent episode, and I used an antiquated out-of-date term for that.

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I just wanted to say thank you to the people who pointed this out and helped me get a better

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understanding because people have blind spots, and it's unfortunate, but it is the reality.

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And there's always an opportunity to hear that, hey, this word you're using is bad,

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and then stop using it or correct the behavior.

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So I appreciate people giving me that opportunity and not jumping down my neck and being like,

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you asshole.

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I appreciate that because life is learning.

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Yeah, absolutely.

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And so apologies that I didn't know before, and we'll do a better job moving forward.

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I don't know if you know this, but in the American education system, caring particularly

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about indigenous peoples isn't high on the list of things.

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We don't always get the correct everything.

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So Jordan, today we're going to start off with actually getting into the big narrative

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of this June 11th episode.

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Alex starts off with the top story, and God, this was a waste of my time.

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New York undercover nurse confirms COVID-19 criminal hoax.

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She's in the epicenter of the epicenter of the epicenter of where the main deaths are.

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And she says the people didn't have COVID and they were putting ventilators on the people

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and killing them to jack up the numbers.

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And she has the video of everyone Tucker Carlson tonight.

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I'll just tell you that that's what M4 serves as is that incubator to do the research, find

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the intel, the listeners send it to us.

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We put it out to millions and then it ends up on Limbaugh and Tucker and that's why Media

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Matters hates us so much and all the way since you're pointing that out.

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So this video that Alex is reporting on was put out by a woman named Erin Marie Olzewski.

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And I have a number of red flags on this here story.

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The three names.

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That's John Wayne Gacy if I ever heard it.

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So there's one essential piece to this that doesn't even have to do with the content of

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what she's saying in the video itself.

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And that's the very act of making this video that she made is a gigantic breach of patient

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rights to privacy.

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Yeah, that's illegal.

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This point is something that has been made by various medical professionals who are very,

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very mad about her actions.

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Yeah, I would be too.

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The unfortunate reality is that most medical professionals could come forward with horror

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stories and videos that would scare the shit out of us, but they can't due to respecting

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their profession and the responsibilities that they have to the people that they care

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about and care for and work with.

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Erin decided to videotape people's medical charts and secretly recorded conversations

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with her colleagues, which you got to assume is at least going to get her license revoked

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if not result in full on legal trouble.

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She should be in jail, yeah.

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I don't know about in jail, but at least sued.

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Like it should be, I can't imagine there not being legal consequences for this.

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No, you can't do that.

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Yeah.

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A lot of the claims that she's making in the video are not supported by the actual video,

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namely that the hospitals are just calling everyone COVID-19 cases, that they're knowingly

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killing people by hooking them up to ventilators, and that if only the patients had been given

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hydroxychloroquine, everyone would be all right.

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Oh boy.

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Yeah.

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Since these claims are not established by her video itself, I'm left to consider whether

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or not the person making these claims in this video has a motivation that they're not bringing

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up to make unfounded claims.

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Is it Jacob Wall in a wig?

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I wish.

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That would be fun.

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Scooby-Doo moment.

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Yeah.

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So as it happens, Erin Alzuski is, she's not just a nurse.

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In 2018, she founded a group called My Nurse Advocate, which has a pretty ambiguous name.

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Antivaxer.

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Well.

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Already.

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Already.

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Can't find a ton of information about this organization.

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Sure.

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However, Less Vague is the name of the other entity that she founded that same year, Nurses

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for Vaccine Safety Alliance.

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Oh yeah, I got it in my brain now.

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So she founded Nurses for Vaccine Safety Alliance in October 2018, then My Nurse Advocate in

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December 2018, then she closed Nurses for Vaccine Safety Alliance in January.

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Strange timing.

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Almost as if they're the same entity, but one has a name that they realized would set

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off a ton of alarm bells, whereas My Nurse Advocate is something bland and vague enough

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to possibly fly under the radar unless Investigator Jordan is on the case.

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Yeah, I would say naming your organization Doctors Are Killing Your Children Without

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Borders is not a good idea.

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The business address for Nurses for Vaccine Safety Alliance was just a FedEx mailing center

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in Florida, where Erin lives.

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In November 2018, Erin was a guest on a show called Freedomizer Radio, where she gives

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her bio as her having a bachelor's of science in nursing, but that she quote, left mainstream

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nursing and entered into natural health sectors.

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At this point, she was already making media appearances trying to spread an anti-vax message,

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and it's clear that she has no interest in mainstream nursing or medicine.

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So it seems super weird that you would get involved at a New York hospital when she's

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from Florida if she's kind of opposed to the type of medicine that would be being practiced

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at this hospital she was going to in the middle of a pandemic.

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Hmm.

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Yeah, that does raise some red flags for me.

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Yeah.

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In October 2018, Erin was one of a group of women who arrived at the CDC headquarters

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in Atlanta to protest the Advisory Committee on Immunization Practices.

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Well, like most investigative journalists, she has no bias whatsoever.

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And you know what?

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Erin happens to have a book coming out July 6th called The Undercover Epicenter Nurse,

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which is currently number one on Amazon for pre-orders in the section Nursing Critical

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and Intensive Care section.

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Great, great.

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Pretty impressive that you would have been able to be an active participant at this hospital

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at the center of a pandemic, engage in stealthy undercover investigative work, and manage

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to crank out a 256-page book all in a manner of a couple months.

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Yeah, is she John Bolton wearing a wig?

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Is that what's going on here?

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I don't want to put things too bluntly here, but this whole thing is very suspicious.

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Here you have a nurse from Florida who's rejected normal medical practices, who responds to

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a pandemic by going to New York to work in a heavily affected hospital, who then spends

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her time unethically documenting things that are protected by privacy rules, who then releases

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a big expose video right in time to push the pre-sale numbers of her book.

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Forgive me for sounding a bit jaded, but from where I'm sitting, this seems like a setup.

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I'm going to go with fuck that lady.

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When Alex is saying that she's on Tucker that night, and it has nothing to do with Alex

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covering it and then it's making its way to Tucker, this is just the latest in a shitty

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right-wing anti-vex attack thing, like there's a whole thing going on.

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This is part of the ecosystem.

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Yeah, they're all just attacking the medical community, which these things blow up, like

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a plandemic and all this, and then Alex tries to take credit for it.

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In reality, he's riding the wake of all this.

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I was thinking about this, and I realized that Alex is in a weird position now where

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he doesn't really have a purpose.

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Tucker doesn't need Alex to mainstream narratives for him anymore.

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Jesse Waters picked up on that thing about George Floyd, but that's pointless.

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It's awful, and it's disgusting to see Alex's talking points getting laundered.

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About the big guys, like Tucker and Sean Hannity, don't need Alex.

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Tucker's just out there letting it fly.

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He could just take... Black people are coming for you.

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He can just have the plandemic star on his show.

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He could just have this doctor on.

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He doesn't need Alex to make it okay.

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There's no bottom anymore.

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No, and then at the same time, Alex, he's not useful to the internet anymore.

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They don't need him to amplify their messages.

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Nope.

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He has no use.

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That's a bummer.

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No, he's boxed in by his racism.

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He can't pivot away from... The only way that he would have any value is if he was

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outside of that ecosystem.

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The ecosystem exists, and it can propagate without him entirely.

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He would be a remarkable person to go on another path.

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It would be remarkable to see him try to do the things he does, but for not Trump, I don't

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know what that would be.

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I would certainly hope it would not be him trying to do the Glenn Beck, I'm sorry about

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all that.

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Oh, that wouldn't happen.

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I would not accept that.

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No, no, no, no.

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I would be interested to see if he just tried to pivot into completely other territory because

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I think he could destroy a lot of the things that are other people's conspiracy theories

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if he didn't have a vested interest in not tearing them down.

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Right, right, right.

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Absolutely.

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He could just be like, look, I said that.

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Did you believe my bullshit?

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Exactly.

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Come on now.

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Let's all move on.

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You're lying, obviously.

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Yeah.

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Guys, here's how this works.

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You take a headline and then you write a story about it.

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It's fucking super simple.

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So this is the big story, the big narrative on this episode.

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It's going to go through a large portion of this.

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He plays lots of this video, and in order to understand and know what was going on,

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I went and I watched the video, and it's trash.

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But it's basically what Alex is preoccupied with.

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And because this video is so extreme, it makes Alex need to be even more extreme.

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This is such an over the top cult level exercise of power over us that if people don't hang

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for this, and I mean hang politically, then the blood's on our hands because it is a pissing

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in our face event.

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And it's not about being pushed around and then, oh, you get mad, so you got to do something

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because you're not going to push me around.

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It's about what comes next if we put up with this.

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The message here, I think, is pretty clear.

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He's talking about that video that Aaron Ozlowski put out, which Alex is using to assert and

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fully prove that the coronavirus was a plot from the beginning and that medical doctors

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are actively killing people in order to get numbers up high enough to appear to be a pandemic.

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That's what he's talking about.

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Essentially, Alex is putting forth the most vast conspiracy imaginable, involving literally

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all the doctors and nurses at hospitals around the globe and countless other individuals

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all conspiring together to pull off a fake pandemic for some reason.

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This is nonsense, and none of the information he's put forth on this subject is in any way

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conclusive, and this newest piece of evidence honestly feels more like a person trying to

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buzz market their new book.

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There's absolutely no way that anyone is, quote, going to hang for whatever conspiracy

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Alex thinks he's proven because he and his shoddy sources are all making it up.

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There isn't going to be a day where Anthony Fauci is tried for the coronavirus and is

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hanged.

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That's just Alex's fantasy.

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Yeah, that's doubtful.

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But this is what Alex is demanding, and if this doesn't happen, then the blood is on

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all of Alex's audience's hands.

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Alex is making his listeners guilty for the eventual deaths that come from COVID-19 because

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somehow they didn't get Fauci hanged.

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You can easily see how this is an incitement to violence.

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This is a man saying that if these people he's decided are guilty of running a fake

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pandemic aren't killed, then everyone who follows him are responsible for the deaths

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that happen.

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You don't want to be responsible for all those deaths?

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Well, maybe you should take matters into your own hands to keep the blood off them.

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This is a profoundly dangerous mentality to push onto the wide audience that might just

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include some seriously unbalanced people, as Alex's audience clearly does.

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One of the things that makes it most dangerous is that when you understand what Alex is talking

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about, he's not just talking about people like Fauci needing to hang.

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He's talking about all these doctors and unnamed nurses at various hospitals.

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Part of Alzowski's video is alleging that the doctors in the hospital were killing patients,

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and that's what Alex is talking about in that clip I just played.

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He's calling for the hangings of countless medical professionals around the country,

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and if this doesn't happen, well then the audience has that blood on their hands.

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It would be really hard for an unhinged person to attack and enact Alex's vengeance on someone

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like Fauci or Bill Gates, but it would be less difficult to attack a hospital, and this

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is a real serious threat right now.

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On March 24th, the FBI tried to arrest a man named Timothy Wilson, having had him under

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investigation for six months.

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Wilson was a white supremacist who had decided to bomb a hospital because of quote, the increased

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impact given the media attention in the health sector.

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On March 24th, he met up with an undercover officer thinking he was picking up a bomb,

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and when the arrest started, he initiated a shootout resulting in his death.

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This is not an isolated incident.

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On May 11th, St. Helena Hospital in Napa Valley had to be evacuated after a bomb threat.

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On June 9th, a 33-year-old man named Robert Roden arrived at Stony Brook Hospital in New

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York quote, wearing a tactical vest and carrying operable homemade bombs, a BB gun, a hatchet

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and handcuffs.

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On June 11th, someone called in a bomb threat to the University of Illinois Hospital here

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in Chicago, again having to shut down the building for a period of time.

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Great.

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There's a seriousness to this issue that takes this kind of rhetoric that Alex is putting

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forth and transforms it from goofy, stupid conspiracy theorist into guy who has a considerable

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chance of getting people killed with this kind of nonsense.

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This video that Alex is covering is a blatant piece of shit, anti-vax propaganda nonsense,

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and the shift that it represents is terrifying.

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Instead of taking aim at the faceless big pharma and the nebulous idea of the globalists

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who push vaccines, this video takes aim at the frontline doctors, nurses, and other healthcare

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workers who are risking their lives to treat people.

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This is a very serious escalation, and I really worry about what it pretends, like where are

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you going to take this narrative from here?

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Whatever happens, Alex is playing with fire, and it's absolutely something that's inexcusable.

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No matter what the consequences come, the possibility of what you could be creating

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with that is just like, why would you do that?

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Why would you do this?

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It is one of those things where now, you know, you say you could pivot away from somewhere

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else, but it's like, you can't have him, like that rhetoric could be applied in some ways

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to the situation we're in from the reverse, you know, like Trump is doing all of this

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bullshit that is, all of these people reopening the country, all of this stuff is going to

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get more people killed.

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All of these white supremacists going around fucking people up, calling them bomb threats,

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carrying fucking bombs.

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They're fucking people up, and Alex Jones on the other direction would be saying, if

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you don't kill a white supremacist, you've got their blood on your hands, and that's

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not how you solve any problems.

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That's not what you do, and it's wrong.

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No, people who are calling for defunding the police and stuff like that, I'm interested

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in those discussions, but anybody, if there was anybody who was of the relative stature

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of Alex Jones, calling for murdering cops.

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Yeah, no, get the fuck out.

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Yeah, I would not be, I would not be down with that kind of.

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No, absolutely not.

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And I just don't understand how Alex can't get what he's doing.

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He's doing it again, like this is the same sort of behavior that he's engaged in that

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has got him into trouble.

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Yeah, he gets what he's doing.

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Yeah, I mean.

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He's trying to get people killed.

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This is the same thing as, you know, the Sandy Hook stuff.

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Like incitement towards these families of victims, and, you know, people calling and

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threatening their lives over it.

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It's the same behavior, and I don't understand how he doesn't, I mean, you say he has to

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understand, I bet he probably does, but it's just fucked up that, like.

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Of course he understands, that's what he and his ilk get the fuck off on, is fantasies

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of hurting people, of murdering people.

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And so he's just expressing his fantasies, and he knows that what the end result of his

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fantasy is, is people dying.

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So he has to know what he's doing.

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But he thinks that he's on the right side of things because he thinks that there's hundreds

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of doctors that have all exposed how this is all a fraud and what have you.

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There have been hundreds of medical doctors, hundreds, that have come out in Europe, the

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United States, Canada, the US.

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Hundreds of nurses, prestigious university scientists, the head of the Rockefeller Hospital,

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the Cedars-Sinai, clinic owners, have all come out and said, we're having the normal

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amount of deaths from seasonal flu and pneumonia.

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And they're just putting all those in the COVID column and these tests are fake.

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And Bill Gates is testing, the main testing factory has been shut down as a fraud.

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It's been confirmed.

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There have not been hundreds of doctors that have come out and said the shit that Alex

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is claiming, but he's welcome to provide references for that if he'd like to.

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I've watched every specific instance that he's brought up, and I could think there's

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like maybe five.

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A couple of them are chiropractors, there's two clinical, like the guys who run the urgent

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care clinic in Bakersfield, there's like Judy Mikovits, the plandemic, there's not like...

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The list goes on and is over now.

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My guess is that Alex is not going to provide those references, and the reason I feel strongly

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about that is because he said, quote, the head of the Rockefeller Hospital, Cedars-Sinai,

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as one of his references.

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This is a case of Alex mixing up his narratives.

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Cedars-Sinai is supposed to be part of his Trump was right to suggest injecting disinfectants

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into people talking point, which has nothing to do with the COVID-19 denialism.

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Alex is just grasping at straws, trying to pull out every name of anything close to the

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medical field he can, and in doing so, you can see how he has no grasp on even his own

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conspiracy theory.

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And everybody knows the Rockefeller Hospital only serves Rockefellers, and not even people

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in the family, just anybody with the name Rockefeller.

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That's the only people they serve.

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Absolutely.

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Yeah, so that's the only ones we have to worry about.

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I'm trying to think of another non-Rockefeller Rockefeller.

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Jay Rockefeller?

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Sure.

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He was pretty great.

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All right.

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So also, there are not a normal number of deaths happening currently.

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There very well may be a normal number of deaths coming from the flu, but these aren't

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COVID-19 deaths.

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There is a very widespread phenomenon of excess deaths that Alex has not given an explanation

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for it.

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Now, I guess he's just decided to deny is happening?

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Don't exist!

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That's a pretty fucked up thing to do, but it makes sense as part of his almost entirely

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fictional reality he's presenting to the audience.

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Yeah, you know, if you're going to try and get people killed with active violence, you

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also have to try and get people killed passively by making them ignore the...

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Yeah, you just got to get it all out of the way.

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So the Gates-linked lab that Alex is referring to, the Seattle Coronavirus Assessment Network,

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wasn't shut down because of fraud.

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It was a temporary closure over a technicality about them being cleared to release test results

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to civilians.

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They'd already gotten state approval, but the federal government put a hold on their

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program because they said they needed federal approval as well.

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There's a little update on that, by the way.

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The Seattle Times reported on June 10th that this program is now back up and running, having

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found a workaround.

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They're still working with the FDA to be granted full federal approval for the release of results,

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but in the meantime, they submitted to a review board with the University of Washington and

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the Seattle Children's and Fred Hutchinson Cancer Research Center, which has offered

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to provide oversight and implement this program as a study.

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Running this as a review board-approved study allows for the tests to be processed without

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federal approval, but again, they are also still working to get that federal approval.

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Time is of the essence with something like this, so this is a way that their work can

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proceed and they can also follow appropriate FDA steps.

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Alex is making up that they were shut down for fraud because he's making all of this

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up.

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His story has no connection to reality and he doesn't even remember what words mean in

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terms of his own conspiracy.

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It's just fucking pathetic.

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I think you have given him way too much credit.

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I don't think he remembers what words mean.

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No.

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The end.

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That's fair.

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So Alex gets to talking more about this situation with this video that this New York nurse put

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out and oh, man, this is bad.

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Another nurse at the epicenter of the epicenter of the supposed COVID-19 outbreak shot video

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of it all in the computers and in the operatories and in the beds in the rooms showing total

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premeditated criminal fraud.

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Not just saying people had COVID that didn't, she has all the tests.

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They test them three times and they'd say, we don't care, put COVID in and then they'd

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run a tube down their throat.

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These are people that are healthy and destroy their lungs and kill them.

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They've turned the hospitals into execution centers.

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I went and I watched Erin's video and I mean, there's just immediate problems that you have

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with it.

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First, about three minutes in, she's pulling up one of her patient's charts on her cell

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phone and showing it to the camera.

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The person's name is very sloppily blurred, but I would bet just about anything that it

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would be very easy to unblur that with minimal amounts of Photoshop, which strikes me as

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very irresponsible.

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It's really sloppy as a redaction.

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Then about five and a half minutes in, they show some undercover footage that Erin got

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where she's looking at someone's chart where it says that they're confirmed COVID-19 case,

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but the tests in the chart say, quote, no traces found.

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This is a problem because based on everything we as viewers have been shown, there's no

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way to tell if this isn't that same person's chart from her cell phone that she pulls up

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later.

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There could easily be like one person that she's talking about and there could be an

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explanation for this.

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Like for instance, the doctors were worried that this was a case with a false negative

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result where the patient had all the symptoms of COVID-19 and had a history of close contact

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with people who had tested positive.

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Without more information, we don't know what the circumstances are here and it's just sloppy

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work.

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Now I think we know.

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I don't need any further proof.

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To make matters worse, in her investigative secret camera video, Erin is asking another

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nurse about why the test appears to show a negative result, but the patient is said to

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be positive.

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The video is edited to end just before the other nurse gives her answer, which is super

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suspicious.

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It almost makes you think that maybe there was an answer that made sense, but it completely

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blew up the predetermined anti-vax narrative Erin was sending out to put forward, so they

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just cut it out.

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That might be what it is because I mean, look, yeah, I can see a possibility where the test

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came back negative and they were like, everything else about this says COVID-19.

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We're going to go ahead and assume moving forward because I don't see what's-

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I don't know any more about it other than you.

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Also, does nose traces found directly link to COVID?

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Does it say-

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It appears to, but I don't know.

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It appears to, but you don't know.

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It could be anything.

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It could be no traces of alcohol found.

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No, I don't think it's that far afield, but I don't know how to read this medical chart

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that she's just pulling up in this video.

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No shit.

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Anyway, I don't have a whole lot of faith in this.

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I watched her video, but my desire to discuss it fell apart really quickly.

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I think that this would be a fantastic opportunity for the hospital and the other staff to sue

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the shit out of her.

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If she's willing to put out this kind of a stunt in a YouTube video, then she needs to

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defend this in court.

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If Erin were serious about this, she wouldn't have released it as a suspiciously edited

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YouTube video full of claims she doesn't prove right before her tell-all book comes out.

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She would have filed a lawsuit against the hospital or something along those lines.

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She's literally accusing people of murder.

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A shitty YouTube video is not the place to do that if you mean it.

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If you really are serious about this, then you should be taking action in that front

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as opposed to whatever this is.

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You uncover a massive global conspiracy to purposefully kill patients and you make a

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YouTube video, Dan.

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That's the course of action that makes sense to me.

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So there's a bunch of claims that she makes in the video that sound wild until you look

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for context.

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For instance, she claims that everything was crazy in the hospital and there was a dentist

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in charge of the ICU.

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A fellow practitioner at the hospital clarified this, saying, quote, what Erin doesn't share

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is that the dentist and ophthalmologist working in the ICUs, they have a defined role.

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There are medical professionals that FaceTime family members at bedside.

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They're not treating.

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They're an extension of the nursing staff so we can provide more time caring for our

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patients and less time answering phone calls and talking to families.

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That's suspiciously not brought up in Erin's video because the video's a load of shit.

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You can find some accounts from other people who are at the hospital she was at, but of

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course they're bound by medical ethics so they can't discuss patients.

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But what they can do is express how much things like this video hurt.

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One fellow nurse at Elmhurst, that's the hospital she was at, said, quote, to express the level

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of betrayal, hurt, doubt, pure disgust and anger is something I cannot put into words.

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Working at a level one trauma center in a hurricane prevalent area, I came to Elmhurst

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to give the regular staff some reprieve, a fresh face, a strong skill set and to answer

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my nursing oath.

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I thought others did too and man, did this one nurse prove me wrong.

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We were welcomed with open arms and air hugs.

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Put simply, I believe that you can sum their message up as go fuck yourself, Erin.

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Yeah.

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This is ridiculous.

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I think the world should sum our message up with go fuck yourself.

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Calling doctors murderers.

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No shit.

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I mean, and to be clear, don't do this on a YouTube video.

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If you mean this, don't do this on a YouTube.

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That to me is amazingly ridiculous.

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Even accepting that is a weird thing to imagine, but whatever.

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Anyway, Alex gets into, see, you can tell from her past movements that she's involved

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in.

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This is probably the large part of what's motivating.

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This is a desire to work against vaccines, like a potential coronavirus vaccine that

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might be in development.

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And maybe make a little grip on the top of it.

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And that's not necessarily super explicit in the actual video, but if you listen to

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Alex's coverage of it, it becomes totally clear that he gets the point.

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You know, I've asked David Nye, who's a great guy.

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I've asked him all to go back to the old interviews from like five years ago and to get those

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nurses back on, or we'll open the phones up and, you know, have nurses contact us again

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and we'll vet who they are and then have them on the air.

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It's whistleblowers.

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It's fat.

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Get the fuck out.

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They can stay private or go public.

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But you understand when they give preemies vaccines, about half the time they end up

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dying when they're little preemies.

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What?

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So a couple of things real quick here.

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It's widely known medical reality that premature babies are at a greater risk of many diseases

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which are preventable with vaccines, including the whooping cough and a normal cockle disease.

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Premature babies are in a position where they are at a far higher risk if they are not vaccinated

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as compared to full term births.

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Most vaccines are supposed to be administered to premature births at the same schedule as

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their full term term counterparts.

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With a couple exceptions like rotavirus, the vaccines like those, they require a slightly

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different schedule, but people understand that there's a lot of myths that go around

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about it being inappropriate or dangerous to vaccinate premature babies, but there's

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no evidence that I can find this is the case.

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A lot of that comes from ideas about a child's immune system not being fully developed in

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the gestational period, but this turns out to not be as big a deal as it might appear.

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A 2015 analysis in the journal Human Vaccines and Immunotherapies found that, quote, while

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absolute primary antibody responses may be lower in preterm compared to term infants

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vaccinated according to chronological age, the majority achieve antibody concentrations

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higher than levels generally accepted to correlate with protection.

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I can find no evidence that there's any increased mortality risk related to premature babies

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being vaccinated, and definitely no evidence that half of them die.

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That's completely absurd, and honestly, the opposite is closer to reality.

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Due to the increased danger that vaccine-preventable diseases pose to premature births, not vaccinating

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them is probably far more likely to lead to death than vaccinating.

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If you pay close attention, though, like I said, you can see the game.

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The whole coverage of the undercover video exposing COVID-19 isn't meant to help anyone

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treat COVID-19 better or hold these doctors responsible for their alleged murders.

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It's to promote anti-vax narratives, and you can see how Alex instinctually knows that.

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He goes from this video and smoothly transitions into an attack on vaccines, because that's

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what this is all about.

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He gets it.

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He knows.

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He can tell.

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I just don't understand the confidence.

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I just don't get that level of insane confidence to be like, I know how big medical textbooks

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are.

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True.

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You know?

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And I haven't read any of them.

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And doctors have read a lot of them.

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I don't know the confidence of somebody who's not read any of those textbooks and is just

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like, they're all lying.

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They don't know a fucking thing about this.

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Vaccines will kill you.

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I sprained my ankle once.

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More babies die 50% of the time if they get a vaccine, and it doesn't matter what vaccine

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that I'm talking about.

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I mean, it's just a ludicrous thing to admit.

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It's bananas.

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One of the sites that I was looking at was saying that approximately 10% of births are

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premature.

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If half of the babies who are vaccinated-

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5% of all babies die.

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Seems high.

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Seems like a lot.

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Anyway, in this next clip, Alex gets finally to talking about the Capitol Hill autonomous

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zone.

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In Seattle.

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Sure.

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Sure.

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I'm sure he views it as a libertarian space where they've kicked out all of the authorities

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and they're treating it as though, no, no, no, because it really is that.

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There's no authority.

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Slightly.

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No, there's no laws.

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It's a sovereign citizen paradise, Dan, honestly.

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Slightly different take on it.

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Oh, it's a different take?

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He doesn't spend a whole lot of time talking about the zone itself.

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Probably because it'd be hard to defend.

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He kind of just has one focus.

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And then yeah.

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Then we've got Seattle now, a large part of the city is controlled by a self-described

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African warlord.

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And it's being endorsed by the lab as a wonderful new thing.

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And there's videos of him running around, folks, this guy, running around, beating people

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up, calling himself an armed dunes, the police department.

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So this is...

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You know, that's a lie worthy of the Seattle police department.

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This is a lie worthy of Alex.

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You're swinging, buddy.

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Wow.

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So he's talking about the Capitol Hill autonomous zone that protesters have set up in Seattle,

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which is not a large part of the city.

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It's this one police station that the police vacated, which is now a community center and

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the area two blocks in each direction.

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I have no idea about the inner workings of what's going on there, nor can I pretend to

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know what's going to happen with it in the future.

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But from all external appearances, it seems interesting.

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Fine.

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There are people making art, people feeding folks for no charge, and the vibe seems kind

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of like a giant block party.

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Now, granted, there are barricades that have been set up to block vehicle traffic, and

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so the cops can't get in, which is something that probably is very scary to Alex Jones,

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who I will remind you is all in on the Malheur wildlife refuge occupation.

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Of course.

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Of course.

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Oh man.

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You know, things change.

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Something is more terrifying to these people than realizing that when people live without

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the cops, they're fine.

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That is a really threatening idea, that if there are no cops and everybody is fine and

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in fact maybe not getting as violent as otherwise, it really, really ruins your job, doesn't

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it?

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It appears to be, but I don't... I've tried to look into this a bit and I've seen some

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reporting from there and I've seen videos and the vibe I get is that, but I also don't

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want to commit too hard in case there's a perception problem that's going on.

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You know what I mean?

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Sure.

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Sure.

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Sure.

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Sure.

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Sure.

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I have a tentative stance on this.

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Well, there is a certain vested interest in it looking good and working from people who

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want it to.

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In the same way that there's a vested interest for the right wing to pretend that it's entirely

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on fire and it's most of the city.

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Because from Chicago, it's difficult for me to tell exactly what the pure reality of it

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is.

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I'm sure the pure reality of it is fucking complicated even if you're there enmeshed

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in it.

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I can't imagine it being the sort of thing where you could be like, well, here's what's

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going on, one sentence.

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No matter how many videos I watch on Twitter about this, I'm not going to get the clear

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picture of what's going on.

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Probably not.

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The video that Alex is talking about is this rapper and activist named Raz Simone who is

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a black man who is not shy about pointing out that he's armed and he carries his permit

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on him.

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Does he self-describe as an African warlord?

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I don't know about that.

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The video is of Simone approaching an individual who's putting graffiti up on a building which

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is apparently a home or workplace of someone who probably doesn't want their walls tagged

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up.

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Simone tries to explain to him that the business is nice enough to let people be there in the

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autonomous zone and they quote, we are the cops now.

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Simone isn't saying that he and his team, he runs an imaginary big goon squad that they're

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the cops.

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He's pointing out that in the absence of cops there, everyone has their own responsibility

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to the community.

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A fight does seem to break out, but it's pretty clearly the guy who's spray painting who's

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the aggressor and making the situation escalate, at least that's what it appears to be.

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Simone appears to be trying to get the guy to respect the person's property, which Alex

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should be into, and the guy won't listen.

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It's really hard to tell from the footage, but it appears that it was the spray painter

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who's the person who makes it physical.

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When people tweeted the video out and portrayed it as horrific lawlessness, Simone replied,

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quote, this actually went beautifully and we all hugged it out and spoke with his dad.

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His dad now wants me to mentor him.

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It was great black dialogue and men apologizing to each other, abandoning pride.

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We all hugged each other, cried it out, and it was beautiful.

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That sounds like an African warlord to me.

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That might be true, but it's also not in the video.

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It's just what he's saying happened afterwards.

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I don't have any reason to doubt him, but I can't prove that that is the end result

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of it.

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So, I mean, take it for what it's worth.

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Well, if he's lost a hand, then I will accept the African warlord thing.

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Whatever your perspective is on the autonomous zone, one thing that's absolutely an unfair

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characterization is painting Raz Simone as a warlord over the area.

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That's an explicitly racialized characterization that Alex is using and he's weaponizing it

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to scare right wing audiences.

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The right wing is doing it on their own and Alex is going much further with it, saying

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he's an African warlord.

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Simone was born in Seattle.

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For Christ's sake, in 2016, he was opening for Macklemore.

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Yeah, yeah, yeah, exactly.

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And that's how you know he's an African warlord, dad.

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I can understand.

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I need to see his long form birth certificate.

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I can understand some people having ambivalence about people occupying a couple blocks in

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a major U.S. city, but this kind of shit is just too much.

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This is racist incitement, which is ironic given that the autonomous zone itself grew

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out of protests related to racism, but, I mean, what are you going to do?

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What happens when people fight back against your racism, Dan?

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The only way to beat it is by becoming more racist.

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See?

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That'll do it.

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Fair enough.

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Yeah, that wins.

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So Alex is pretty preoccupied about Raz Simone, and so he talks a little bit more about him

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here.

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Antifa says that they control this sector of the city, and they've appointed a black

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dictator over themselves.

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Did not appoint anybody?

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Antifa doesn't appoint?

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Antifa explains how he's going to quote, shoot everyone.

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Quote.

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I mean, this is joke level, ladies and gentlemen, this is satire, this is not fake, these guys

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read what I'm looking at, and this is the left's god.

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So Antifa is not a formal group, and as such, they have no ability to appoint a leader.

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Further, Raz Simone is not the leader of the autonomous zone, and he's not the left's god.

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This is a fun game for Alex to try and rile up his audience's racist fears, but it's not

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real at all.

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Also, Raz Simone did not say he was going to shoot everyone.

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His most recent release was a song called Shoot at Everyone.

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It's a song about how much pain he feels, largely about estrangement from his son, and

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the chorus begins, quote, see there's a pain that I feel in my heart that just can't be

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numbed.

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Sometimes I want to shoot at everyone.

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It's not the best song ever, but it's honestly pretty good, I enjoyed it, I expected it to

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be, like, whenever you hear an artist is involved in something that's not music, and you become

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aware of them and you go check out, I found that a lot of the times I end up being disappointed,

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but he actually, it was pretty good, I listened to it twice, if that gives you any indication.

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You rarely listen to songs that you don't like twice.

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So Alex is trying to present this as a threat that Simone is making about things at the

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Autonomous Zone, but it really, it's just a song he wrote about how much it hurts to

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be a father who has a strained relationship with his child that, it came out in April.

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So anyway.

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Wow, this was right when the Autonomous Zone started, right?

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In April, that's why he wrote the song.

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This is almost a parody level of Alex trying to create a black boogeyman for his audience

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to be afraid of.

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In his own words, this is joke level.

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Yes.

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Granted, I mean, Alex isn't alone in his quest.

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The right wing media is really fine in joining in, but this is profoundly racist stuff.

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He plays a music video of Raz Simone where he's throwing cash out of the back of a car

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and stuff.

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It's like, what are you, you're depriving all of this of any context in order to frighten

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old white people.

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Yeah, no kidding.

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He might as well be like, Alex might as well be like, quote, he said, I'm going to fuck

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all of your white daughters.

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Is that what you want?

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End quote.

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So Alex lies more about this.

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Sure.

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He catches some Antifa guy tagging and he says, that's not authorized.

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So he beats him up and steals his phone.

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As reparations.

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You cannot make it up.

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Yes, you can.

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Not sure about this.

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Yes, you can.

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Not sure about that.

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So now Alex makes the weirdest fucking face I've ever seen when he says for reparations.

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There's a smug, snarky little look on his face.

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Like he won.

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Like he scored out of himself.

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Yeah.

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Like he made a three pointer.

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Like Steph Curry did a little shimmy after a three.

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Yeah.

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When you're on stage doing standup and you think of like the perfect response to somebody

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and you make a little kind of face, it's that kind of face.

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Alex thinks that saying like for reparations, like I fucking improv to the best line there.

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That's the look he's got.

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Wow.

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And now this is where things get really interesting.

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And I will say that watching Aaron's nurse video was a waste of an hour of my time.

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Yeah.

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This was also a huge waste of my time and I'm still super confused.

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Okay.

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Mic down for this clip because you need to hear what confused me.

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And he says, that's not authorized.

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So he beats him up and steals his phone as reparations.

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You cannot make it up because the good people won't stand up and say, no, the very worst

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you get collapsed societies is appeasement.

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So there it's clear that something was cut out.

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Something was cut out.

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So that was from the audio feed, right?

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Yeah.

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And so like very worst people blank cut out.

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Yeah.

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I was like, okay, so he probably swore or something like that because the audio feeds

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that I get are generally like Genesis communications feeds.

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And so whenever those, those are the ones that are probably being broadcast on whatever

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few radio stations are left.

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And so like, yeah, they got to cut that stuff out.

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So I went and I looked for Alex's version on band.video and like, I was like, what,

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you know, what do we, what do we got here?

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And here's what it is on band.video.

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And he says, that's not authorized.

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So he beats them up and steals his phone as reparations.

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You cannot make it up because the good people won't stand up and say no.

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So call everyone, you know, tell them to tune in because we're going to lay it all out here

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today.

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There's even more cut out of this version, but also they added a weird flash effect to

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try and cover up the jump cut in the video.

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Something is really up here.

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And Alex said something that they needed to bury whatever they're, you know, whatever

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there's a string of profanity that gets cut out of the audio feed.

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It's still on band.video.

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But this time he had his team cut out something intentionally, something that was cut out.

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Yeah.

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I'm going to go with a, I'm going to go with on a limb.

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I'll give you two to one odds.

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The N word was dropped liberally.

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Well, I thought that that was a chance or he said something like too fucked up.

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Yeah.

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And honestly I managed to find it.

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I, I, you know, I don't give up on things like this, so I hunted down another like version

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of the full feed of his show.

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When I found what was cut out, I'm more confused than I've ever been in the real world.

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He catches some Antifa guy tagging and he says, that's not authorized.

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So he beats him up and steals his phone as reparations.

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You cannot make it up because the good people won't stand up and say no.

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The very worst ends up ruling.

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That's how you get warlords.

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That's how you get collapsed societies is appeasement.

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So call everyone you know, tell them to tune in because we're going to lay it all out here

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today.

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This is an interesting situation because I don't feel like this clip is any more offensive

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or blatantly racist than any of the other things Alex has been saying.

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But for some reason, a conscious decision was made not only by Alex, but also by Genesis

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communications network to cut that part out of the show.

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I don't know exactly what's up here.

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So I considered the possibility that there's some kind of a glitch or a recording problem,

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but the stream that you can find that just records it directly as it airs has perfect

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audio and video.

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There's no problem there at all.

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The decision to cut that portion out was intentional.

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And I think I know what led to it being cut out.

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Nixon?

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Yes.

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If you watch the video, Alex makes that snarky reparations joke that's not actually based

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on anything except his racist imagination of how that encounter went down between Simone

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and the spray painter.

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Alex then says the good people and gestures with both hands at himself.

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He then says that when these good people don't stand up, the quote very worst, then he trails

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off.

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He's gesturing towards the video screen, which is playing the visuals of one of Raz's music

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videos with his hand making a okay sign when he says the very worst.

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It seems clear to me that someone was in his ear because there was a look of confusion

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on Alex's face.

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It looks like he's trying to take in information, which makes sense.

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One of the producers is probably telling him that the optics of this are a disaster and

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he needs to bail right now.

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I don't know if the okay sign is intentional, as like a white supremacist thing, but it

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certainly doesn't look good, and the fact that this was the part that they cut out of

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the show on his own platform only adds to the sort of suspicion about what could this

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have been about.

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I have no idea if this was the case.

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Like I'm just spitballing here, and I'm just guessing that what happened was the producers

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hit the delay button while they were in Alex's ear, which would explain that they have the

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sloppier chunk edited out on the version that would be on the Genesis Communications version.

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That's just got the hard...

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Right.

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There's only a certain number of seconds or whatever.

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And then in-house they cleaned it up a little bit more and made it look like nothing had

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happened for the version that was on band.video.

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I strongly suspect that that was what happened, but I don't know what it is.

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I know Alex is saying the good people and gesturing at himself and saying the very worst

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and pointing at Raz Simone, who like, you know, I get that.

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I mean, that's racist.

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I mean, he's a vicious racist, but that doesn't seem outside of his normal vicious racism.

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No.

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If you're going to cut that out, fucking cancel the show.

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There's nothing about that that's worse than Alex's normal racism.

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Yeah, yeah, exactly.

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Maybe they've even figured out that Alex should just cut his entire show.

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They're just trying to take little chunks of it at a time.

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Yeah, so that took a long time for me to sort out, and I feel a little underwhelmed.

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I don't understand.

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Because there's not anything like, like you were predicting he was going to drop end bombs.

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I was assuming.

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And I thought there would probably be something at least like, I mean, I don't know, some

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sort of a slur.

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Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

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But I mean, it is offensive, what he said, don't get me wrong, like I would have cut

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that out as well, but I would have cut out everything.

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I would be like, don't talk about this.

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Yeah, yeah, yeah.

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I would have actually gone with like...

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I would have cut the segment and then just shelved the show and fired Alex.

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That's what I would have done.

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That would have been a smart move.

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But if you're already, if you're in for a penny, I don't understand why you're not in

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for a pound here.

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You know.

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I don't get it.

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I'm telling you right now, pot commitment is a fallacy, Dan.

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You're never pot committed.

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You know, that doesn't make any sense.

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Sunk losses.

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Doesn't make any sense.

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So Alex moves on from this topic and he decides that he's going to talk about Bill Gates because

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apparently Bill Gates runs everything now.

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And if you look at Bill Gates publicly promoting, kill granny, kill old people and depopulate

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the planet, and then you learn that he wrote the actuaries and the battle plan with the

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NIH and with the UN on record and ran the Wuhan lab and ran the weaponized COVID-19

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operation.

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So they'd have the whole response all programmed out.

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But you also want to then corrupt the medical facilities and have them sign on to your evil

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operation because now they're going to defend it no matter what, because they don't want

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to go to prison.

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This is how you set people up.

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And they had tabletop exercises lockstep 10 years ago.

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So I wanted to play that clip because first of all, Bill Gates has got to be busy as hell.

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And then also I wanted to demonstrate that this is kind of Alex's new version of the

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narrative now that this nurse has come out with her video claiming that doctors are killing

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patients on purpose.

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Now Alex is working in this whole thing about the globalists needing to corrupt all the

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doctors so they can't speak out against Bill Gates' evil plans.

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This is a really important piece of any conspiracy theory, which is the explanation for why there

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aren't hundreds of people confirming what your sources are claiming and what you think

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you've proven.

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Because they're fucking in on it, Dan.

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Right, yeah.

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So Alex's version of this now is that they get the doctors to kill people and then they

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can't talk up because they're in on it now.

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It's like having to kill someone to get in a gang basically.

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You either recite serials or you kill somebody.

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Those are the only two ways to enter a gang, I believe.

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So I mean, Alex has got a bunch of sketchy-looking sources to back up these claims and the rest

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of it he's basically just making up.

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But if any of that was real, there would be an avalanche of people calling it out.

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Oh yeah.

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Doctors and nurses do not want to kill you.

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It's the opposite.

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So there would be something, you know.

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That feels like you shouldn't have to say that out loud.

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Yeah.

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If there was something even close to what Alex is describing happening, there would

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be a near unimaginably large number of healthcare professionals coming forward as opposed to

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just one alternative health nurse who founded multiple anti-vax outlets and is trying to

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promote a book.

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Also, lockstep wasn't a drill or a tabletop exercise.

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It wasn't even a plan.

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It was one of four scenarios that was imagined as a way to conceive ways that technological

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advancement, particularly as it relates to the developing world, could proceed in the

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coming years.

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Alex didn't read that actual paper and is just lying about it being a plan because he

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is a huge liar.

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Yeah.

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Liar!

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I fucking hate these.

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You can't be like, oh, Bill Gates' plan to kill granny and all that shit.

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Whenever two months ago, your very lieutenant governor was like, old people should go to

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work and die just so everybody else will be fine.

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Not only.

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Like you can't have it.

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Not only the lieutenant governor, Alex himself.

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Yeah, exactly.

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Yeah, exactly.

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Yes.

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Hey.

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Yes.

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Old people are going to die and it's real sad.

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Hey, they're going to die anyways, but.

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And now Bill Gates wants to kill granny.

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And that's not even a fair assessment of what Bill Gates was saying.

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No.

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God.

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Anyway, Bill Gates has said some other things.

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And I said, this is a drill.

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There's going to be new chimera COVIDs released and then Gates is going to own it.

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And then sure enough, he went on Colbert a few months after I said that and said, oh,

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this is kind of a drill.

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This is just event one.

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The big events coming.

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They're going to, terrorists are going to release a weaponized form of this.

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But don't worry, I'll have a vaccine for you.

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And he's got it.

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So first of all, Bill Gates doesn't have a vaccine for this, nor does he have a patent

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on the coronavirus.

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This is all just stuff that Alex took from a chicken vaccine patent that was owned by

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the Pure Bright Institute, which had received some funding from the Gates Foundation.

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Alex just lifted this narrative from QAnon posters online and has accepted it as real,

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despite the fact that it's complete bullshit.

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Bill Gates did not say on Colbert that the current virus situation is just a drill.

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His comments were a little bit more nuanced than that.

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And we can listen to that right now.

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Well, Bill, since you tried to warn us about this pandemic and we didn't listen, what's

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the next thing you're warning us about that's going to happen five years from now that we're

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not listening to at the present?

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Well, I didn't want to be right.

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What I wanted to do is- I understand.

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I'm not saying you won.

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Everybody loses.

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Nobody wins with us.

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And I'm not saying that you're, that you're, this is not an end zone dance.

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I'm just saying, what else are we not listening to that we need to take action on now?

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Well, the, the idea of a bioterrorist attack is kind of the nightmare scenario because

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they're a pathogen with a high death rate would be picked.

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Now the good news is, not trying to depress you, it's tough enough right now, that most

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of the work we're going to do to be ready for pandemic two, I call this pandemic one,

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most of the work we'll do to be ready for that are also the things we need to do to

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minimize the threat of bioterrorism.

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So Alex hears that clip and he thinks it's secretly Bill Gates coming on The Tonight

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Show and announcing all this stuff that he's got is going on right now, it's a drill and

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I'm going to release more viruses and blaming a bioterrorist.

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Yeah, that sounds right.

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This is the sort of work Alex does.

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It's always important to constantly remind yourself of that.

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He takes a clip like this from a Colbert interview and writes his own story about it, which he

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then reports as definitive, this is not someone who lives in reality, he's making all this

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shit up.

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Yeah.

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I also get mad at Colbert, don't say, quote, we didn't listen, fuck off, we had a whole

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fucking 79 page plan, the CDC had a whole thing, they listened, they had the whole thing

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ready to go.

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My friend, I believe we call it the royal we.

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Ah, well.

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So in this next clip, it's kind of a palate cleanser, it's pretty funny, Alex just being

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sort of braggy.

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Look, I've already studied them so much, I'm inside their head, I know exactly what they're

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going to do next.

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Because you're making it up.

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They literally have nightmares about this broadcast at night because we are inside their

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heads and we know what we're doing.

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Cut to, I'm not mad at the crew.

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Just formulaically lay this out, it's like watching a movie and you've not read the script

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but you know how it ends, it's so obvious when you're watching a whodunit or something

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that, oh, it's the good guy that's the bad guy, and at the end you find that out.

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Still waiting on that chip from the homeless person in Austin, still waiting on this nuke

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to hit Chicago, still waiting on all sorts of things that you've said are right around

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the corner.

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Ah, he never finished Zodiac, so he doesn't know how it ends yet.

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That could be.

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Yeah.

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He was Robert Downey Jr. all along.

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Look, dude, I spend all my working time studying Alex Jones, listening to his dumb bullshit,

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and even I don't have nightmares about him.

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I spend the most time out of anybody other than maybe his family taking in his bullshit.

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And even I have dreams about water parks.

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Nah, no, clearly you're the only person spending that much time analytically listening to him.

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I doubt his family pays attention to what he has to say at all anymore.

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Could be.

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Why would you?

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Yeah, it's a problem.

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So, in this next clip, there's a really long pause, please be patient with Alex, he's thinking.

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The gears are turning, he's trying to, and actually, I'll explain the face he makes at

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the end of this clip.

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It's really, really funny.

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They tried to pass a bill in Congress to say you can't keep a baby alive after it's born

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and harvest its organs, and the bill did not pass, and it became a big national news story.

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Why would they want to do that?

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Because it's about power.

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So that long pause is really funny if you go and watch the video.

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Why is that?

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Alex is ranting about this supposed organ harvesting bill in the context of him being

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on Rogan's podcast.

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The point is that Rogan didn't believe Alex until he looked into it and then was shocked

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to find out Alex was right.

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When that pause starts, Alex's crew flashes up on screen an article from Newsweek with

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the headline, quote, Alex Jones, Joe Rogan war leads to conspiracy theory meltdown.

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Info Wars host says babies harvested for organs.

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This is on screen for like a second or two, and then the camera cuts back to Alex in silence

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with a look on his face like, come on, guys.

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It's a look of deflation.

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His face just like says, really?

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That's the article you went with?

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It's a face that screams defeat and exasperation.

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There's a flicker, just a moment of like, oh, they have nightmares about us because

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we're so good.

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Next clip.

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Come on, guys, we're losing.

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The bill Alex is talking about is one that Republicans tried to push through that would

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ban most late term abortions and introduce criminal liability for doctors.

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This is a cynical political move, as even CBS News pointed out, quote, the measures

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have been defeated multiple times in recent years, but Senate Republicans pushed for renewed

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votes to enable GOP lawmakers to make an election year appeal to conservative voters.

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Alex is just making shit up about this because he's an idiot liar and a zealot.

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But that pause was pretty fucking funny.

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That look on his face.

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I'll post a picture of it somewhere because I did take a screenshot.

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Oh, good.

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Good.

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Yeah.

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I want to see it.

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I want to see that tickled me too much.

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So Alex is, you know, his North Star home base racism.

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I was going to say Bible.

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Oh, OK.

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So Alex talks about the Bible here in this next clip.

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And boy, he's he's he's off shot with a little shoulder.

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Where God said, I will kill your ass in a very horrible way.

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Tie a big ass rock around your neck and throw yourself in the ocean.

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That's a better place to be than what God says he'll do to you when you attack.

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The little ones suffer the little ones.

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I don't think Alex knows what suffer means in this context.

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Matthew nineteen fourteen says, quote, Jesus said, suffer the little children and forbid

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them not to come on to me, for of such is the kingdom of heaven.

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It's a term that's also used in Mark 10, 14 and Luke 18, 16.

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And in each instance, the context is the same in the language of the time, suffer meant

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to allow something to be done.

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So when Jesus says suffer the children to come on to me, he's saying, allow the children

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to come to me.

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Jesus did not say that the alternative was he was going to kill your ass.

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That sounds like him, though.

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There's a little bit of editorializing on Alex's part, which some might say is deeply

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blasphemous.

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And, you know, Jesus did have that five second delay button, so maybe they just cut that

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out of the Bible.

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The thing about tying a rope around your neck is completely disconnected from any of that

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stuff.

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And it comes from Luke seventeen, one and two, quote, Then he said to the disciples,

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it's impossible that offenses will come, but woe to him through whom they come.

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It were better for him that a millstone were hanged about his neck and he cast into the

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sea, then he should offend one of these little ones.

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The context of this passage is that Jesus is talking to his disciples and explaining

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to them that it's impossible to live a life free from troubles, but woe to the person

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who brings about those troubles.

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The little ones of this passage doesn't refer to children, but to new believers who are

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early in the path, and woe onto the person who would bring offense upon them that would

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lead them into sin.

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The next verses are, quote, Take heed to yourselves.

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If your brother trespass against you, rebuke him, and if he repent, forgive him.

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And if he trespass against you seven times in a day, and seven times in a day, turn again

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to you, saying, I repent, you shall forgive him.

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This was really more about appropriate behavior among believers.

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If your fellow believer wrongs you or tries to lead you into sin, call them out for it.

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But if they're receptive to that and they repent, you have a responsibility to forgive

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them.

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If they don't repent, then woe unto them, and they're better off jumping into the sea

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with a millstone around their neck.

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This has nothing to do with suffering children, despite the little ones part in there.

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And at the end there, it really seems like Alex doesn't even know what the word suffering

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means in this context.

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He has such a bad grasp about, like, really basic elements of understanding the main text

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of the religion he professes to follow.

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He doesn't know how to read and he can't listen to anybody when they tell him that he's wrong.

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Yeah, yeah, it's too bad.

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The end.

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Yep.

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So we're seeing a little bit of an upswing in COVID-19 cases in some states, and Alex

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makes fun of that in this next clip.

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My God.

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Oh, wave two, oh gosh, Trump shouldn't have rallies, oh, keep the economy shut down, it's

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all over, oh, it's all Trump's fault, COVID-19, Fauci says never leave your house again, never

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shake hands again, it's a cult.

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Second wave, spook stock market.

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Mnuchin, we can't shut again, you do it, the depression will be 10 times worse.

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It's already going to be bad, boys and girls.

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So Alex is here mocking the reporting that's coming out that there are spikes being seen

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in various states around the country, which is pretty fucked up.

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Inevitably, the story that's going to be told is that the protests that broke out after

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the murder of George Floyd are responsible for the upticks we're going to see here, and

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that's probably very unfair.

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If we're already seeing increases, that's way too fast for it to have been from these

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protests, but it's right on schedule when you'd expect to see increases after these

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states decided to open up without proper and thorough guidelines and testing in place.

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Almost like to the day, you know?

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It's almost like to the day.

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NPR made a really good point, and that is that anything we're seeing right now, it's

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not fair to call it a second wave.

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We're still in the first wave.

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It's just never ended.

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A lot of the countries just decided it's not real.

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There's still over 20,000 new cases being reported in the US daily, according to numbers

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up to June 11th, working on a seven-day rolling average.

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That's a ridiculously high number.

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In one day, we're adding as many cases as there are total in Ireland.

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We've just become burnt out to this reality.

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We've started tuning it out.

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In order to do the sort of things states are deciding to do safely, they need to have really

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good testing and observation capabilities in place in order to make sure that cases

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are caught early and they don't go on to infect a bunch more people, and that's just not where

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a lot of states are.

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There are a number of states that are looking mighty scary right now.

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I'm looking in the direction of Nevada, Arkansas, the Carolinas, and Arizona, all states that

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do not have stay-at-home guidance in place.

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There's no one-to-one correlation between states that have stay-at-home orders going

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and cases going up or down.

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It's impossible to draw firm distinction between those, but the states that are all looking

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like there's trouble brewing are ones where there aren't guidelines in place.

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We'll see what happens in the future, but this is the point of time where I feel things

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are the most volatile.

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You have a market-obsessed lunatic as president seeking reelection in November.

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You have an entire right-wing media ecosystem pushing messaging that no matter what the

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deal is with the virus, we have to protect the economy at all costs, and you have outrageously

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dangerous people like Alex pushing messaging that doctors are actually killing people in

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hospitals to create the false image of a pandemic.

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That's just a fucking toxic combination, and it really does worry me to think about the

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possibilities.

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If we see massive upticks in a lot of states, we could get to a position where people have

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to lock down again in the same ways or even harder than we did before, and we saw how

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Alex and so many of these people on the right responded to it.

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I just don't know.

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I obviously can't make any predictions, and there's a decent chance that things will go

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better than your fears would be, but the possibility of what could come just terrifies me.

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I just hear Barbara Tuchman writing the March of Folly II, Trump's war.

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That's just all I can think of right now.

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This is insane.

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We are in the most terrifying position with absolutely no leadership from anyone, and

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that's beyond political party, anyone.

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None of those people.

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Except our dictator warlord, Rad Simone.

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I am willing to swear fealty to him if somebody will fucking step up to the goddamn plate.

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He apparently has just been elected leader of Chicago.

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I'm fine with that.

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I've already sworn fealty to him.

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He's better than Lightfoot.

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So in this next clip, Alex gets to talking more about his sort of COVID denialism and

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also that dumb video.

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And now at least 10 blue states that we know of premeditatedly sent pneumonia, flu and

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supposed COVID-19 patients in to nursing homes and into hospitals to murder everyone.

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And you've got another nurse going public and talking about what they witnessed and

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how somebody would come in panic attacking, you name it, 37 years old, doesn't have anything

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wrong with them.

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We'll take care of you, bro.

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Bro.

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You talk about moths to flame, have a little bit of anxiety locked up in your house.

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You test negative, put it positive, kill it, let's get the cash.

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So that's pretty bad.

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Here, Alex goes on to expound on this a little more.

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I realize these two clips just can go back to back.

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But the family can't come see you as you're tortured to death because reportedly people

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were healthy.

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But then it's not like battling the people to strap them down to shut up and give us

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the money.

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Lebowski, 52,000 luscious cashies.

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What?

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Who says that?

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52,000 luscious cashies, oh, but.

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Why didn't Republican states do this?

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And I'm not, Republicans have got their problems because Republicans aren't that psychotic

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or satanic.

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They don't operate like that.

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OK, so Alex is talking about this dumb video that Aaron put out.

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So I'd like to say this.

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If you're a doctor at Elmhurst Hospital, please sue Alex Jones for defamation.

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He's directly reporting that you and your staff took a patient with anxiety and killed

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them in order to make a few bucks.

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This is a clear open and shut case, I think.

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I don't know, I'm not a lawyer.

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And the only evidence he has is this video that Aaron Olusuksi put out.

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This kind of thing cannot be allowed to stand.

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Alex is putting people's lives in danger on multiple fronts with this kind of rhetoric.

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On a very basic and concrete level, he's trying to whip his audience into a frenzy against

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doctors and the medical profession as a whole at a time when there's increased hostility

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and frequency of attempts at attacking hospitals.

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Alex clearly hopes someone attacks a hospital, at which point he can claim that it was a

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false flag to make COVID denialists look bad.

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The danger of this path that his content is on is very high.

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It's very scary to imagine what could come of this.

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And the good news is, if you sue him, at the very least you'll be able to get that full

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video and the one that she, rather than what she edited.

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And a great deposition.

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And a great deposition.

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Alex being like, I don't remember anything that I said last week.

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I don't know.

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Let's get Rob Dew in here.

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Let's save us.

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Oh, please.

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I want a sequel.

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Yeah.

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Oh, of course.

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To the Dew position.

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Oh, of course.

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So then on a more general level, this kind of rhetoric is going to put people in greater

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danger from COVID-19.

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If they believe, Alex, that this is all a get rich, quick scheme being pulled off by

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these hospitals, then they're going to behave in riskier ways, which could lead to them

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getting sick or getting other people sick.

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And if they do get sick, they'll be less inclined to seek appropriate care since they've been

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told that if you go to the hospital, they're just going to kill you for the COVID bounty.

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Hmm.

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There's no worse combination of narratives Alex could be putting forth this time.

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And they pose a sincere risk to people's safety.

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Generally, I try to stay as neutral as possible, but in this case, I think Alex needs consequences

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before things get more out of control than they already are.

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And Elmhurst Hospital suing him, I think would be a great place to start.

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The list of people who need consequences is staggering.

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Yeah.

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Staggering.

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I think that you run into a situation where I'm saying like, Alex needs consequences for

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this.

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I can easily get it twisted and think that I'm saying someone should hurt him and obviously

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I'm not.

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He needs a financial consequence.

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He needs...

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Absolutely.

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He needs to have some sort of a negative pushback on him in order to recognize that these things

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are not okay.

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And I just don't...

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I mean, obviously we can't do it ourselves, but I might've done it if we could.

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Yeah.

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I think we...

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Yeah.

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God, I hope he slanders us.

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Come on, man.

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I know you're listening, say some mean shit.

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I don't know.

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I don't...

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Are we public?

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I think we're public figures.

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I mean, we'd put out a show.

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Eh.

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I don't know.

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Not public enough.

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So Alex said in that last clip that the GOP, it's not happening in boost or it's not happening

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in red states.

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Of course.

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What have you.

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Because they're so smart and not psychotic at all.

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Yeah.

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Because they're cool.

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I want to address that really quick.

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That's another instance of Alex mixing up his narratives, because he's talking about

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them killing you for money in the hospital.

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Right.

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The stuff about the red and blue states is supposed to be about blue states sending infected

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people into nursing homes in order to kill old people.

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That's nonsense, but it has nothing to do with the idea of hospitals killing people

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for money.

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That's a completely separate conspiracy and has nothing to do with red and blue states.

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When they use bundled payments, like what Alex is describing, the amount hospitals are

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paid for treating patients by Medicare is uniform nationally.

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Doctors in any state make the same, treating patients with the same condition.

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The Centers for Medicare and Medicaid Services figure out what the average cost of treating

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a particular type of patient is going to be, and then they set a standardized range that

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covers it at that amount.

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This system is great for a number of reasons.

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The first is that it drastically cuts down on the process, because before, hospitals

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would have to bill government or insurance for various tests, and it involved a ton more

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paperwork.

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As you can imagine, this also left a lot of windows open for people to run unnecessary

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tests to bill the government for, but with a standardized payment amount, that's not

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something you can really get away with.

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Because you're also just given this one payment amount for a condition, you're incentivized

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to treat people efficiently and to provide the best possible care, so you don't end up

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in a situation where your treatment is costing a ton more than Medicare or Medicaid covers.

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By exploring bundled payments, the Centers for Medicare and Medicaid Services have managed

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to cut costs and provide improved care, because it cut out a lot of the uncertainty and wiggle

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room.

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Also, in terms of COVID-19, there are these bundled payments, because there are for a

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ton of medical conditions.

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The amount that they determined it should cost to treat an average COVID-19 patient

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is $13,000, and the amount they determined that it would be if someone then ends up on

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a ventilator is $39,000.

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We've talked about this a bit in the past.

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Alex's $52,000 number is just him adding those together, because he thinks that you get $13,000

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for diagnosing them as COVID, then a $39,000 bonus if you put him on a ventilator, which

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he's just making up.

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Hospitals aren't paid each day when they have the patients in there.

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They're not getting paid to diagnose people, then getting a bonus when they treat them

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or whatever.

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Alex is taking advantage of his audience not knowing how these bundled payments work, which

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is shitty, but it's also very transparent if you take some time to look into the topic

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he's covering.

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Just think for one second.

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If there are standardized payment amounts that a hospital gets for pneumonia, which

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there is, then what would be stopping hospitals last year from calling every cough pneumonia

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in order to make more money?

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You understand?

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This isn't a unique situation.

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No, no, no.

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Don't worry about it.

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This is when you strike, Dan.

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Back then, everybody's paying attention.

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There's nothing unique about this.

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No.

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Alex thinks he's reporting on proof of a vast conspiracy, but he's really just reporting

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on how he doesn't know how Medicare bundled payments work.

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No clue.

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That's cool.

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Well, when you say he's taking advantage of his audience not knowing how anything works,

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that is also a blanket statement.

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I could say that a lot.

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That would be a bundled payment in some ways.

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Yeah.

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I could.

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Please take that as implied on all future episodes.

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On everything.

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Yeah.

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Alex was talking about how GOP, they're naive but not evil.

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God, they are so evil.

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Well, he expounds -

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Insanely evil.

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He expounds on this a little bit here.

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Like bananas evil.

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Why didn't Republican states do this?

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And I'm not - Republicans have got their problems because the Republicans aren't that psychotic

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or satanic.

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They don't operate like that.

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The average blue blood Republican's like going to church and playing golf with their kids

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in the Marines.

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They're real naive, but man, they're not coming up with schemes like this because Lex Luther

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couldn't come up with this.

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So if you're operating off normal human communication patterns, the scheme that Alex is referring

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to is the last scheme he was discussing.

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You know how a pronoun reference works?

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And that scheme was getting money for COVID patients.

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That's the scheme he's talking about.

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So the decision about bundled payments for COVID-19 patients was made possible by HR

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748 or the Coronavirus Aid Relief and Economic Security Act.

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This bill was signed into law by Donald Trump and was widely supported in Congress.

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It passed the House 419 to 6 and went through the Senate 96 to 0 with four non-voters.

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Rand Paul was a non-voter because of course he was.

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I was about to say Rand Paul was one of them.

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Yeah, you can bet on that.

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Then there was Mitt Romney and Mike Lee from Utah and John Thune from South Dakota.

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Rand Paul didn't vote because he was in isolation at the time because he tested positive for

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COVID-19 and both Mike Lee and Mitt Romney had to go into quarantine because they'd had

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contact with Rand Paul.

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No idea what was up with Thune, but Rand Paul's dumbass was responsible for three out of the

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four non-votes on the coronavirus relief.

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That could have been enough to pass the Fed.

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And honestly, I would say, I don't think I'm joking about this, probably the most consequential

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moment in Rand Paul's career.

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Yeah.

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Oh, damn.

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Anyway.

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We got a Randzing.

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The scheme to have standardized bundled payments was part of a bipartisan bill that Trump signed

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into law.

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Fox wants to pretend there's some sort of a red state, blue state thing here.

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He's going to have his work cut out for him.

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That was actually deep state agents who were holding Trump's hand and making him sign that

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pen because they had a syringe of vaccine right at his neck and he was drinking a poisoned

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diet Coke at the time.

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That could be.

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There's a theory going around.

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That sounds right.

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Some people are reporting that.

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I think I'm hearing that a lot on the ground.

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So you know when someone lies, you can kind of lie about them and then they can't call

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you out about it.

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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Sort of like it breeds this sort of environment where all sorts of lies are fine.

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Alex gets into that game about this nurse and each hospital given a 52,000 plus dollars

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for the murder.

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But now another medical nurse, another Arian army veteran decorated purple heart has come

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out.

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Erin Marie Olzinski.

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She's on Tucker Carlson tonight.

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A little birdie told me that set for tonight, not the next night.

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So according to Erin's bio, she was a nurse in the army in Iraq, but Alex is absolutely

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making up that she has a purple heart.

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That's a specific metal that's awarded for people who are wounded or killed in service

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and Alex giving her one in his imagination is kind of stolen valor by proxy.

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Alex is absolutely zero respect for the armed services.

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He just makes up stuff like this when he needs to make a weirdo anti-vax nurse sound more

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credible.

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That's a slap in the face to all the enlisted persons who have been hurt and killed in the

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line of duty and Alex doesn't give a shit.

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Does not give a fuck.

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Nope.

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So Alex gets a little bit fed up about Black Lives Matter and stuff.

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Oh yeah.

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I wonder why.

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Uh-huh.

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Yeah.

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He gets pretty mad and we end up having another cough button issue.

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It's a religion to the left to kill brown people and I don't say that to kiss your ass

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because you're brown.

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I'm telling you, I've been to the abortion places, you've seen the videos, where you

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have some weird black or brown doctor come out and go, yeah, who wants these ugly black

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babies?

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We're going to get rid of them.

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I mean, these are, this is a damn cult, man.

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Meanwhile they turn the quote minorities or the majority into a bunch of brainwashed racists.

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Screw you too.

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I'm here trying to save your ass because I'm morally am not going to sign on to killing

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everybody.

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It's not because I'm some white knight virtue signaling person up here that's trying to

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stop all this because I'm such a white savior as the left says, BS man, I want to get saved

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by God.

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And if I sign on to killing everybody and playing God, I'm not getting beamed out of

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this thing.

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So I'm selfishly not signing on to evil.

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I'll admit it.

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I'm not doing this for you.

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I'm doing this for me.

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I'm not signed on to killing all those old people or those blacks your ass.

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Delay that.

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It pisses me off.

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Ooh, a little sloppy.

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That was, uh, yeah, that one wasn't good.

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That wasn't very, uh, it wasn't very perfect.

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I'm going to tell you something powerful people aren't getting nightmares over how professional

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his shit is.

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No, no.

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So here is that on edited.

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Okay.

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I'm not doing this for you.

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I'm doing this for me.

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I'm not signed on to killing all those old people or those black babies.

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Fuck you.

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Motherfucking new world order.

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I will get your ass.

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Delay that.

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It pisses me off.

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Oh no.

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Oh no.

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What did Alex just say?

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Oh no.

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Do you hear that?

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Oh no.

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Oh no.

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Is that 1997 Scott Hall and Kevin Nash in their best physical shape of their career

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coming at us?

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No.

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God damn it.

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For life.

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All right.

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All right.

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All right.

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Oh man.

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Never say fuck the new world order.

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I'm taking that away from you.

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Never.

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I'm taking your computer away.

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Never.

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You'll get it back whenever you're better.

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Never disrespect the outsiders.

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Oh, also I should say, um, in that last episode that we put out, um, a little mini seven minute

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thing.

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You said that you're going to take away my soundboard and people thought that I actually

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have a soundboard.

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You were talking about my mixing board that we used to record the episodes that needs

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to be dusted off.

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I got a lot of people who are like, can you share what's on your soundboard?

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Just a couple of things I have in my iTunes.

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Um, but, uh, yeah, so I wanted to clarify that cause I heard it from enough people,

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but yeah, don't disrespect the new world order for life.

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No, I got it.

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I got it.

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You can disrespect Hulk Hogan though.

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Hollywood.

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Well, I mean, considering he took down Gawker with Peter Thiel's Billions, then yeah, I

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think I'm fine with that.

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Fuck him.

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Actually, you know what?

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You can probably disrespect, maybe all of them.

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Who cares?

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Yeah, I'm fine with that.

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Scott Hall had a toothpick.

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Notable details.

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So Alex gets to discussing how his enemies are psychic vampires.

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Sure.

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The money's a sad thing to get people to go along with it.

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They want the power to kill people.

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They're a cult who want to hurt innocent people.

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What they want is the energy of children.

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They're psychic vampires.

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They don't just rape kids, folks that kill them and everybody just needs to grow up and

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realize that.

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And I know it's not fun to admit it, but let me tell you something.

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Those kids are crying out to God every minute for salvation and to be saved.

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And God acts through us and is telling us to save the children.

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And if we don't do it, we deserve what happens to us.

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So I do not fear Bill Gates.

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I fear God and I declare war on Bill Gates and his entire satanic harmony in the name

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of Jesus.

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That is such fake passion and so disgusting.

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I feel like we've heard that rant so many times, but I did have a weird thought that

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I had when I was listening to it because I found myself getting really bored as he was

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getting more excited.

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Yeah, my mind kind of wandered off at the end there.

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Does Alex think that he hasn't already declared war on all these people?

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I guess.

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In that moment, does he think that that's a big, bold pronouncement?

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Because it's definitely not.

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Alex has declared war on Bill Gates about a thousand times already, which does not seem

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to amount to much other than lying about him and yelling a bunch of shit.

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Did he win the war?

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What a war.

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Yeah.

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I was thinking about it and obviously this declaration of war is redundant and meaningless,

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but I think it's a tacit acknowledgement on Alex's part that he knows that he has to seem

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really extreme to keep anyone's attention these days.

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He has to act like this is a major step for him when in reality, it's kind of like a comic

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robotically going through their set, telling a joke that they've told a million times.

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It screams false passion.

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I think it's really sad to see this repetition of, I declare war on Bill Gates.

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You can't even be enjoying this.

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Yeah, no kidding.

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This is lame.

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Did you see the clip going around of the marchers in the UK singing the song, We're Racist

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and That's the Way We Like It?

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I think I saw a link, but I didn't click on it.

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I don't know if it's true.

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I don't know if it's real.

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That has nothing to do with this, but I was listening to that rant and I was thinking

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about that song and just thinking, it was almost a relief to hear it like that, you

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know?

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Like, thank you.

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I don't have to do any thinking.

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I don't have to dig through your gaslighting.

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It's not as frustrating.

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I don't have to do any of that shit.

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Yes, you're just saying what I already know.

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Yeah.

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Thank you.

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You're a problem and you've labeled yourself as such.

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Exactly.

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Thank you.

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It's not as interesting, but I mean, it is just as bad as...

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It's a relief.

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It was almost a relief in many ways.

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Well, I think that probably is just because of what we do.

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Yeah.

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You know?

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Get gaslit.

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I saw it.

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Profession.

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Basically.

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So, in this next clip, Alex is back to his junior varsity plot, which is the African

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warlord in Seattle.

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Sure.

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Sure.

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Sort of the top story is the nurse video.

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Right.

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And the secondary story is about the chads.

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Yeah.

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This is the B story in an episode of Cheers.

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That's what we're dealing with here.

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Yeah.

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So, he's back to talking about this a little bit.

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And I think he says something that is actually shockingly revealing.

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But Antifa released his list of demands after capturing six blocks of downtown Seattle.

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And of course, the white communist group running it is got a black guy to be the head of it

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as the front guy.

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Sure.

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That's not some virtuous signaling saying the black guy's a victim.

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I think he's a bad guy.

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Just it's so...

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They're like 99% white.

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They'll get one black guy as their front guy.

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So, just up top, it's important to point out that Raz Simone is not the leader of the autonomous

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zone.

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That's just the narrative that plays in the right-wing media.

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That said, I want to examine the idea that Alex is putting forth.

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And that's sort of that if he were the leader, it would be some kind of virtue signaling

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for the left to be doing that or for Antifa.

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Okay.

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All right.

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Alex is assuming that having a black person in a leadership role is virtue signaling.

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Because according to his estimate, which he's just making up, most of the people at the

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autonomous zone are white.

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Pretending that all the people there are white and they did make Simone their leader, this

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is still an intensely racist view for Alex to have.

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What if Simone legitimately happened to be the person with the best communication skills

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and leadership abilities?

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What if he was the person most able to articulate the values of the community and the person

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that the community felt was best able to negotiate with the city?

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Because Alex is a gigantic racist, he strips away all possible context and decisions he

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imagines people are making, and he sees things solely through the prism of his white fear.

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There's a black guy in a leadership position, so it must be a case of dumb, self-hating

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whites making him their leader to virtue signal and make people like me look bad.

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You can see how this thinking can be broadly applied to essentially denigrate pretty much

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all non-white achievement in society.

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How is what Alex is saying any different than a racist you might know who says that a black

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woman who got a promotion at his office was just the business virtue signaling, as opposed

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to her working hard and earning it?

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How is what Alex is saying any different than a bigot on a college campus seeing a non-white

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student and assuming that they got into school because of diversity quotas, as opposed to

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them having great test scores and a GPA?

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All the details about Rand Simone are just made up here, and what is very real is Alex's

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reaction to what he imagines to be a black person in a position of authority over white

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people.

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He can't stand it.

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Yeah, especially for somebody whose guests are 99% white and calls hotep Jesus the moment

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he can and he needs a black person to speak for him.

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Sure.

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Yeah.

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And he does-

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For a party that is 99% white, but still, when you have to replace Thurgood Marshall,

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you know what?

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Let's get Clarence Thomas, a bastion of-

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I should tell you that Alex does have an African American guest on this show, and that is Larry

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Pincony, who is an old time black panther, and it was very tough-

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I know that name.

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Yeah.

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It was very tough to listen to.

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Yeah, I believe that.

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It's not how, back in his day, people didn't loot, and the Black Lives Matter stuff today

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is just looting and rioting.

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Sure.

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Came off very much like an old man, not caring for or understanding what the new generation

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is doing, and I just have no time for that.

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Nope.

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It's pretty funny, though, because Larry Pincony was arrested back in the mid-'70s, and when

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he was in prison, he appealed to the United Nations, which is, you know, that's interesting.

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If the United States, you know, the sovereign state, had tried him and found him guilty

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and he's trying to get the UN to step in, that clearly implies a belief that the UN

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has some kind of authority that supersedes United States sovereignty.

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And Alex should really fucking hate that.

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Nah.

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While I'm on that subject, Alex should probably realize that the original Black Panthers were

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straight-up revolutionary socialists.

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Alex is saying, like, the new Black Panthers, and these people now are bad, but the original

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Black Panthers, they're basically like, I would get along with them, they're basically

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the same thing.

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No, I am sure that whenever flanks of Black Panthers were walking, carrying assault rifles,

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watching the cops arrest somebody, Alex would be like, good, those are the good Black Panthers.

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I don't like these new Black Panthers.

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That's what he's trying to present in order to interview Larry Pincony.

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It's very weird.

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Like, Huey Newton and Bobby Seale were fucking Marxists, and they set up their own party

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on that line.

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I mean, the whole fucking breakfast program is literally socialism.

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If you consult the Panthers' 10-point program that served as the basis for the party, you'll

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find some things that seem shockingly relevant to today.

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Like what?

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For instance, number four was a demand for decent housing, and quote, if the landlords

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will not give decent housing to our black and oppressed communities, then housing and

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the land should be made into cooperatives so that people in our communities with government

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aid can build and make decent housing for the people.

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There's a lot of people who are having that conversation now.

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Number six was, quote, we want completely free healthcare for all black and oppressed

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people.

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And number three was, quote, we want an end to the robbery by the capitalists of our black

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community.

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Legitimately, if Alex were around in the 60s, he would have been doing everything in his

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power to get a white guy to kill Larry Pincony.

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Totally.

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I have no interest in listening to the two of them try to pretend that really when you

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think about it, the Black Panthers were actually basically the same as Infowarriors.

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God damn it.

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Yeah, it was really hard to listen to.

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That can't be real.

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I couldn't handle it.

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Christ.

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Oh, man.

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So we have one last clip here, and it's Alex hitting a news story, just sort of touch and

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go.

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This is a Junior Varsity 2 story.

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I don't know.

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This story is wild.

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Let's go to a clip here.

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Man hit by statue torn down by BLM protesters in Virginia is now in a coma.

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So it's an unfortunate truth that a man was hit by a falling statue at a protest in Portsmouth,

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Virginia.

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He's currently in stable condition, and hopefully he'll make a speedy recovery.

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When reached for comment by local news, Rocky Hines, one of the organizers of the protest,

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said, quote, we are responsible for this, and we need to write it in whatever way we

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can.

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I apologized on our behalf, and his sister said he doesn't want anyone upset with us.

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His family was not upset.

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They're hurting.

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The protest organizers set up a GoFundMe, and they've raised over $40,000 to support

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the family and pay for medical bills.

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It's a tragic accident, but thankfully the guy survived, and the protesters recognized

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their responsibility to one of their community who was hurt because of something that went

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wrong in one of their actions.

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You'd obviously prefer it never would have happened at all, like him never getting hurt,

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but when accidents like this happen, it's pretty remarkable to see how communities step

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up and take care of each other.

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That's actually an inspirational wrinkle to the story that Alex just ignores.

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Yeah, of course it is, because right now we're experiencing such chaos that it would be shocking

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to me if no accidents happened, and of course they are going to, and the fact that people

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are actually taking responsibility for it is something that should be universally praised

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like all across the board, and again, we were forced into this chaotic position.

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It's not like we all got here on our own.

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So we come to the end of this Thursday, June 11th episode, and I would say the predominant

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feelings that I have circle around like this is so dangerous.

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I know that Alex has disparaged nurses and doctors as like they're just getting drunk

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and fucking in the hospitals, and that's bad.

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That's disrespectful and terrible, but the way in which he's portraying them as murderers

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now, and it's so indiscriminate.

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It could be at any hospital.

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This can't be acceptable.

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It has the potential for something really, really dark and really bad, and I think that's

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the most important thing, and then a weird editing thing is going to bother me.

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Yeah.

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I know.

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What was it?

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Yeah.

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Was it an accident?

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You know what?

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But then why did they cut it out of the actual-

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Jordan.

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God damn it.

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This will be the hook from my book in five years.

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What the fuck was that five seconds back?

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Exactly.

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I need to do an oral history of everybody who was working at a board that day.

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What happened?

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Why did you cut that out?

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Alex is so much more racist.

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He said that black people were better under segregation just a week ago.

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Yup.

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Yes, he did.

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Cut that out.

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That's very weird.

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Anyway, we'll be back.

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Five Seconds to the Truth.

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That's the name of your book right there.

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Sold it.

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It'll be a great book.

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Sold it.

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Simon & Schuster, hit up your boy.

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We'll be back, but until then, Jordan, we have a website.

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We do have a website.

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It's knowledgefight.com.

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Right.

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We're also on Twitter.

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We are on Twitter.

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It's at knowledgefight.com.

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Now go to bed, Jordan.

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Some people have said that you can find us on Facebook.

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We are.

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And if you could, please find a local charity in your area, a bail fund, anything of the

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sort to help out in any way you can.

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Yup.

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We'll be back, but until then, I'm Neo.

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I'm Leo.

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I'm DZX Clark.

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I am the warlord of the Chaz.

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Andy in Kansas.

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You're on the air.

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Thanks for holding.

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Hello, Alex.

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I'm a first time caller.

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I'm a huge fan.

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I love your work.

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I love you.