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N-N-N-N-N-N-N-Knowledge Fight

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it's time to pray

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Andy and Kansas, you're on the air, thanks for holding

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Hello Alex, I'm a system caller, I'm a huge fan

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I love your work

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Hey everybody, welcome back to Knowledge Fight, I'm Dan

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I'm Jordan

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We're a couple dudes, like to sit around, drink novelty beverages

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and talk a little bit about Alex Jones

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Indeed we are, Dan

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Jordan

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Dan

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Jordan

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Is there a specific jingle you remember from your childhood?

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One that pops out in your mind right away

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That business has my favorite origin story, O'Reilly Auto Parts

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It's just a divorce gone bad and she made her own business to spite

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Is that right?

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Yeah, I think it's the guy who

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You know the lore of O'Reilly?

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They owned AutoZone, or the guy who created AutoZone

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Yeah, get in the zone with AutoZone, and then they got divorced and she was like

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I fucking hate that guy, and she just made O'Reilly Auto Parts

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I feel really

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I'm fairly certain that's the

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I hope you're not telling tales out of school here

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Apocrypha that could be, I could be wrong but I remember that

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I wish it was more of a local thing, but I honestly also

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I realized that I had sort of placed O'Reilly Auto Parts in my brain

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as like a local Columbia business

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Not realizing it's a national chain

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It sounds more like it could be than AutoZone, you know

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Like O'Reilly sounds like it could be like

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Oh, I know O'Reilly, he lives down the block

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That's the one that sticks out most to me in my mind

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But I'm sure there are others

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And maybe one will come to me by the time we finish this episode

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And if so, I'll sing it

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Well, I just turned and looked over and you've got goldfish right on the table

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I do

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And I was like, got goldfishes

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I don't remember that jingle

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You don't remember that one?

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No

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Oh man

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My parents would mostly only let us watch PBS growing up

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So I didn't have a lot of commercials in my early days

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Try kale, kale's good

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We're from PBS

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I don't even think they would allow that

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But there's a podcast where I don't know much about jingles

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But I do know quite a bit about Alex Jones

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And I know quite a bit about the former and none about the latter

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So Jordan, today we are back in the past

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We are going to be going over April 18th, 2013

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Alright

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Continuing our larger coverage of Alex's response to Sandy Hook

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and his coverage afterwards

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in the sub-chapter of the Boston bombing at Fallout

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This investigation has really gotten out of hand

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I think it's gotten out of hand

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But one of the things that I'm starting to realize

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is that maybe what we were looking for was the wrong thing

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You know, what we embarked on was trying to figure out

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when Alex changes his tune about Sandy Hook

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But in the process, I think the larger story is the Boston bombing

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Right

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I think that broke his mind

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I think you might be right

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I think that we've accidentally stumbled onto pretty solid evidence

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that this is a major turning point in his career

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Yeah, yeah, yeah

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He believes, like we talked about on our last episode

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that he has completely outflanked the globalists

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Of course he does

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And he just continues to lose it

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And we're going to go through a good bit of that on today's episode

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Things get wild

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But before we get to that, we've got to give a shoutout

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to some folks who have signed up and are supporting the show

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So first of all, Brett, thank you so much

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You are now a policy wonk

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I'm a policy wonk

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Thank you Brett

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Next

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You did say... you were trying to do a flight of the concords Brett

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I thought of it but I didn't mean to say it

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Sorry

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Brett

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Brett

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Colin, thank you so much

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Thanks Colin

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You are now a policy wonk

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You are now policy wonk

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Carl, thank you so much

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You are now a policy wonk

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Thanks Carl!

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If that's you, Skousen, get out of here.

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Get the fuck out of here Skousen.

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Or Hodgson.

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That'd be better than Skousen.

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In which case, get the back fuck in here Hodgson's.

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You're a big fan, I'm a big fan of yours.

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And then lastly, I'm probably going to mispronounce this, but I think this is probably how this

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is pronounced.

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It's A-K-K-M-E-D-K, I'm going to say Ack-Medic!

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Thank you so much, you are now a policy wonk.

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I'm a policy wonk!

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Thank you Ack-Medic!

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Thank you!

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I feel like we're getting memed again.

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Meh, it's possible.

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Yeah.

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But it turns out that's a real name and we're just complete assholes.

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Sure, it could be.

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Yeah, yeah.

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Thank you so much, Ack-Medic, and if you're listening out there and thinking, hey, I like

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It would be very lovely.

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Um, so, Jordan.

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Yes, Dan?

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It is now time.

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Okay.

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Let me read my introduction.

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Okay.

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Bombs are coming!

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No, they have come.

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Oh, okay, that's right.

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We are too late on your, uh, your alert.

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So, for the final time, I will introduce one of these episodes from the Boston bombing

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period by saying that when Alex gets on air on the 18th, people do not know very much.

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This is the episode right before what I'm going to call the fever breaks, and it's the

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last episode where Alex has legitimate free reign to create whatever story he wants out

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of the random bits of internet rumors that he can find.

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To recap a little bit, on our last installment, Alex had found some out of context images

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on 4chan and used them to create his own story of what happened at the Boston Marathon.

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He found people in the pictures that he felt fit his narrative and cast them like characters

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into play.

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He saw some guys in what he decided were SEAL uniforms, so they were Marines who were there

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to run a drill.

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He saw a white guy that he felt looked stupid holding a backpack, so he got to be the tragic

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white patsy, who the globalists are going to pin the crime on so they could blame the

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Patriots.

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I'm pretty sure that one's going to be, uh, bear out to be true.

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Oh, sure.

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Yeah, yeah, yeah.

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He saw some guys whose skin was brown, carrying backpacks, so he decided that they were there

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to make it look like this white patsy was working with Al-Qaeda to validate Alex's theories

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that the media is obsessed with the idea of white right-wingers working with Al-Qaeda.

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Which makes too much sense.

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All of this was just made up out of whole cloth.

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None of this was in any way based on anything other than Alex's assumptions and a story

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that he came up with while looking at random photos.

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From there, Alex decided he'd scooped the media and that they had been forced to announce

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that the FBI had photos of the suspects because he had reported on those pictures that, again,

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he found on 4chan.

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That's so funny.

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After that point, Alex descended into a completely delusional state where he believed that the

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globalists were watching his every move and trying to counter him through the media.

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Then, he interviewed Steve Pachanik, who stated that he was in a state of open treason and

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advocated lone actors attack the federal government.

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It was a fucked up show under any circumstances, but in the aftermath of this bombing, it was

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particularly distasteful.

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Yeah, that one was wild.

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Yeah.

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I assume that it is much better and they retract all of that bullshit today and we're gonna

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see all of them.

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I don't know if they do.

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Okay.

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But the FBI had announced, by the time Alex gets on air, they had announced on the 17th

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that they had photos of the suspects.

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And Homeland Security Secretary Janet Napolitano had testified before the House Homeland Security

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Committee regarding these images and videos that the investigation had zeroed in on.

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However, the actual images had not yet been released to the public when Alex gets on air

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on the 18th.

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And then, another media outlet made a gigantic fuck up.

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The New York Post put a picture of two men, two Moroccan gentlemen who had nothing to

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do with the bombing, on their front cover with the title, quote, bag men.

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They, the New York Post, they were operating off old tips from law enforcement who had

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for a moment considered them persons of interest, but had already excluded them as having anything

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to do with the bombing.

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So this was a huge problem with the New York Post's cover on the 18th.

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I would say the New York Post is a huge problem.

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Salon called it, quote, a new low.

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Others described it as appalling, and they were all right.

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In the ensuing fallout, it was easy to conflate the two events in your head, to imagine that

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the picture on the cover of the New York Post was the same one as the ones that were going

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to be released by the FBI and had been mentioned by Napolitano.

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And Alex makes exactly this mistake, which we'll discuss in greater detail as this episode goes on.

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The larger point for now is that when Alex gets into the studio, he has a lot of chaos

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and confusion to play with regarding these photos.

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In the absence of any real actual information, that's about the best he could hope for at this point.

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He's in a pretty good position from a propaganda standpoint.

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You would call it the poll position, if you will.

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Sure.

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The FBI press conference is scheduled to happen while Alex is on air because he's extended

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his show six hours now.

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Of course, of course.

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And he knows that once the press conference happens, he needs to be firmly in place with his narrative.

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He knows that that's the moment that the metaphorical cement is going to dry.

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Once there's information backed up by an actual investigation available, his rambling bullshit's

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going to be pretty unconvincing to anyone he hasn't already convinced.

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So he has three main objectives.

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One, solidify the narrative.

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Two, establish a narrative about what the FBI release will be in hopes of preemptively discrediting it.

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And three, throw conspiracy spaghetti against the wall and see what sticks.

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And four, of course, salt the water before you put the spaghetti in there.

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That otherwise helps it stick.

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Yeah, yeah, yeah, absolutely.

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That's what my mama told me.

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It's terrible.

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My mama!

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My mama!

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Also on this episode, we'll get a premiere of an InfoWars employee.

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Yeah.

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We will find a guest appearance from someone I've never heard on the show before, but I

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guess I've actually talked to them.

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Really?

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Which is weird.

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Yeah.

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Okay.

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All right.

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Here's a small action.

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Yeah, it's kind of weird.

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Here's a small world action.

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So this is the state that we're in here when Alex gets on air.

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Yeah.

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And it's going to be a mess.

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So here's the first clip where Alex is just sort of stating that these, talking about

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the pictures, the FBI and people like Janet Napolitano, talking about these pictures,

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they're just a cover-up because InfoWars is so on the story.

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I am going to attempt as best I can after the break when we come back to go over all

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the different facets of this, but we saw a massive cover-up yesterday.

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Within five minutes of us announcing, we had the photos and videos of what looked like

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Navy SEALs along with what looked like Saudi Arabians and what looked like good old boy

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Patsies they were preparing to set up, all with black backpacks.

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CNN looked completely panicked during the break and said, oh, now there's been an arrest.

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There's going to be a press conference at five.

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But then they figured out, wait, now when we show the photos that Jones has, then everyone's

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going to say, well, what about all these other people?

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So that's kind of just a distillation of what he is, you know, the state he's in as he's

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launching off on the 18th.

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At what point do we have to declare like a legitimate delusional break from reality?

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It's here.

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Like this is insane.

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Yeah.

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There are elements of it that you can still kind of tell are performative.

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Yeah.

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Absolutely.

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I don't think it's like you've got to chase him with a butterfly net or anything like

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that.

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But there's a, it's a balance here that you could definitely tell some of this is sincere.

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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He's buying his own bullshit and then some of it is intentional manipulation.

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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It's really hard to tell what it is.

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You can't find out the exact ratio, but yeah, he buys that he, he thinks he's really scooped

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the real media.

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Yeah.

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And you can tell cause he's so excited because he's literally never done that before.

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You know, he feels like, Oh shit, I finally accidentally hit the jackpot.

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I finally lived up to my promise.

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Yeah, exactly.

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I have been lying for 20 years and finally.

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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And so I mean the, the issue too with that, uh, what we talked about a little bit on the

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last episode, the announcement that they'd made an arrest, uh, that was inaccurate never

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came from the Boston police department, the FBI.

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It was something that was, uh, from the erroneous sources within the like CNN, right?

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So the idea that the, they said that they'd got him and all they did, they didn't CNN

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got that wrong.

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You, you are right.

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That that was misreported.

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Yeah.

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But you can't claim that all of this, because CNN can't be running the Patsy operation.

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Right.

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Right.

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Right.

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It's just, it's straight.

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It stretches credulity to imagine, um, that they're able to do that.

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I understand that he's saying that the media is the presentation arm of all this, but they

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would have to be like so much deeper.

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Right.

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Anyway, I'm going to go with MSNBC is the one who did it.

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That's a surprise.

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Uh huh.

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Yeah.

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See, that's the twist ending.

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That's a, that's our black mirror episode.

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It was MSNBC all along.

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Fair enough.

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Yeah.

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Uh, I'd watch that show.

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Yeah.

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So, uh, there's a quirk from the night before, uh, and that is about Obama.

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Uh, and this gets into, uh, bullshit, uh, that will kind of continue on this episode

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because on the, uh, on the prior episode, on the 17th, Alex was looking at those pictures

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and seeing the people that he decided were middle Eastern and he was saying that these

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are North Africans and stuff, and now he's trying to retcon that and say that he always

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thought they were Saudi Arabian because there's Saudi Arabia talk going around on the 18th.

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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So all of that and more is coming up today.

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You've had an emergency meeting with the Saudi foreign minister and Obama that was not on

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the schedule with all sorts of sedans pulling up and freaking out.

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You had them talking about deporting a Saudi who was arrested.

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Oh, he's a suspect.

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We're going to deport him.

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Let's not.

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For the sake of total clarity there, Alex just trails off in the middle of that sentence.

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Yeah.

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I didn't cut it there like intentionally to try and make it look like he doesn't finish

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his thought.

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He does not finish his thought.

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It just stops.

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So regarding me, uh, the Obama meeting with the Saudi foreign minister, this is something

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that's easy to misrepresent, but I don't think it has anything to do with the bombing at

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all.

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At this point in 2013, Obama was in the middle of a series of meetings with leaders from

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around the Middle East region, hoping to find solutions to the situation with Iran as well

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as the civil war in Syria.

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He did meet with the Saudi foreign minister, Saud al-Falzal, but he was far from the only

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person that he met with.

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I was able to find a story in the Times of Israel from April 17th, 2013 about Obama meeting

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with the crown prince of UAE.

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The article mentions that Obama planned to meet with the leaders from Qatar and Jordan

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in the coming week, but their meetings having to do with, again, Iran and the civil war

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in Syria.

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Yeah.

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The other meetings with foreign leaders were largely ignored by folks like Alex and the

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right wing media because they didn't have as easy connection to possible a conspiracy

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angle on the bombing.

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There was already a quote unquote anomaly with the bombing that had to do with Saudi

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Arabia.

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Right, right, right.

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Context is the enemy of lies, I guess.

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Sure.

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We've mentioned a couple of times so far in our Boston bombing coverage how there was

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a Saudi national who was questioned in the immediate aftermath of the attack and how

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the media had been asking questions about whether or not this individual had any connection

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with what had happened.

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And he'd been totally cleared, no problem, you know, he wasn't involved, he was injured

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in the bombing.

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Right.

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Although admittedly, crown prince MBS would go on to cause a lot more problems.

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I don't think it was MBS who was the one he had a meeting with.

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Okay.

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It was not.

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It was the foreign minister.

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He was still at the bomb.

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Fair enough.

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So, look, one of the things that I think is really interesting is that Alex has largely

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ignored this story up to this point, the reporting on this Saudi national who had been questioned

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in the hospital when they found him after he had been injured.

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Either way, now Alex is picking up this thread, so here's what's going on with that.

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That was a student who was questioned by the police and he was never thought to be guilty

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of a crime and the idea of him being deported never came up outside of gossip mills and

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bad right wing website reporting, which ended up finding its way into the mouth of one of

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the senators who was questioning Janet Napolitano in the Homeland Security Committee.

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Because if you elect a Republican, you're dumb and so are they.

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This student was actually injured in the bombing, the person who was questioned, and the amount

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of attention and suspicion directed his way was probably a good example of the media grasping

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its straws to cover a story that they had no real information about.

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On May 24th, 2013, the Washington Post reported that that Saudi student had made his first

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public comments covering an interview that he did with the Islamic Monthly.

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He told them, quote, he has continued to receive death threats and hate mail to the degree

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that he has not moved back to his house or resumed his normal life.

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In his words, discussing being at the hospital while being questioned, quote, they were really

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scared of me.

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I'm injured.

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They don't have anything.

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And they ask me, what do you have in your hand?

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All the police officers and the FBI and all the nurses and doctors were staring at me.

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I was looking at them like, is it because of the color of my skin or is it because of

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the name of my country?

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Yes, to both.

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After his name was leaked to the media and covered so suspiciously and salaciously by

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the right wing media, implying that he was being deported as a part of a Saudi cover

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up, his life got derailed.

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Quote, I don't know if I'm going to continue my studies.

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I came in to study my bachelors.

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I have a full scholarship from my country.

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I don't know if I'm going to be safe from other people because I lost my privacy.

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So that's why I'm really scared.

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So it's not an easy thing to forget.

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Simultaneously, a second student in Massachusetts had been taken in by ICE on an administrative

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immigration violation because they were in the country to go to school and had not registered

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for classes.

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This was a completely different person.

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The situation was 100% unrelated to the bombing, but the right wing media heard Saudi student

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twice and just assumed that there couldn't be more than one Saudi student in the school

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in the Boston area.

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It's got to be the same person.

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I mean, do we really want humans to survive?

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Like honestly, I would like I would like them to survive with better critical thinking.

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Yes.

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Yeah.

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Like like really like we kind of have it coming.

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There are so many big schools around Boston.

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There's Boston University, Boston College, Harvard, Emerson, M.I.T., Northeastern University

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and tons more.

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Pretty sure I just heard college.

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There are a lot of Saudi Arabian students who come to the U.S. to pursue a degree, mostly

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due to the King Abdullah Scholarship Program.

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The program provides students with free tuition, covers their living expenses and even pays

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for a trip back to Saudi Arabia to visit family once a year.

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According to NAFSA, the Association of International Educators, quote, in 2012, the United States

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saw record numbers of Saudi Arabian students enrolled in academic institutions around the

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country.

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The number cited for the 2012-2013 school year in the Chronicle of Higher Education

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is 107,000 Saudi Arabian students enrolled in U.S. colleges.

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I cannot believe 107,000 people did the Boston bombing together.

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That is just so many.

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According to these right wing sources.

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So many.

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Yeah.

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How did they all keep it a secret for so long?

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According to College Factual, a website that tracks various aspects of colleges to help

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prospective students determine which school is best for them, three schools in the Boston

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area are in the top 10 for prospective students from Saudi Arabia.

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Northeastern University is number two, Boston University is number three, and Harvard is

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number seven.

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One of the qualifications the site used to determine their rankings was, quote, the presence

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of students from Saudi Arabia on campus.

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So it's safe to assume that there were large numbers of Saudi Arabian students in the region

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at these colleges, and thus one being injured in the Boston bombing and one failing to register

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for classes makes total sense.

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I probably went too far in looking into this particular detail, but I think it's important

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to clearly show how unfounded and stupid the assumption that's being made here about this,

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that this is the same person, this student who was questioned and the student who was

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taken in by ICE for administrative violations.

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I can't think of any time historically where the mob has been wrong, so this is amazing

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to me.

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Look, I just want to point out that these are the sorts of assumptions that these right

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wing narratives are being built on, and they're absurd if you take any kind of close analysis

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of it.

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You can't really look at what's being put out, and so when Janet Napolitano is asked

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about this, because the guy questioning her in the Homeland Security Committee is asking

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like, hey, do you think it's right that we're deporting this person, even if they're not

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a suspect, they might have information about the bombing, and they're obviously not talking

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about deporting the guy who was questioned, and so she won't answer the question.

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She's like, there's so many inaccuracies in that question, I'm not even going to answer

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that.

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She's taken as evidence of like a cover up, or she won't even answer the question.

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Excuse me.

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It's such a trap.

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I would like to say to the great senator from the state of Montana, you're a fucking idiot.

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Shut up.

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Sit down.

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Yeah.

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So Alex gets around to bragging because through his efforts and through, I don't know, the

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way he's sending Dan Badandi out to harass people at these press conferences, the term

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false flag has become a very high Google trend.

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But this is a no brainer if you study false flags, staged events.

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By the way, Adan Salazar has an article going up in infowars.com showing the analytics from

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Google on false flag.

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It is one of the top terms in America right now, people looking up what a false flag is.

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Harry Reid freaked out and said, how dare you say it's a false flag?

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They're panicking.

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They know more and more people are looking at them.

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And I was just watching the governor and all them soaking up like rock stars loving the

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attention right now at the memorial service.

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It's truly disgusting.

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There's a certain irony to Alex saying that these people who are public servants trying

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to inform the public are soaking in the attention while he has just said, hey, my my sort of

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trademark term is Google trending.

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And we had Adan Salazar, who unfortunately no longer follows us on Twitter.

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Oh, yeah.

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You're still listening, though, buddy.

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You're still a piece of sh-

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Shout out.

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Yeah.

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He's written an article about how we have good Google trends.

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Yes.

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Great.

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I feel like that's the exact sort of navel gazing that he's accusing the governor of

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Boston of doing.

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Right.

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Seems a little bit crass.

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Well, self-awareness is one of the things that on the resume, if you put that for an

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Infowars application, they will light your resume on fire and find you.

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Yeah.

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And then punch you in the face.

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It's a disqualifier.

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You have self-awareness.

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So the night before this, on the night of the 17th, there was an explosion in Texas.

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And it's kind of interesting the way that Alex is covering it, because you'd think it

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would be the biggest deal.

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Yeah.

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It would be a false flag by the cops, I would assume.

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Or, yeah, the globalists are doing something.

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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You would think.

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But instead, he doesn't seem to cover it that much.

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There's a dismissiveness to Alex's approach to this, which I find really interesting.

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But if you're paying attention to, it's very sarcastic.

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It's very much like he thinks that this is a false flag, but he is pretending like it's

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so obviously a false flag that he's being like, eh, about it.

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It's a shitty term.

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And we are going to be breaking down all of the massive news that has been unfolding on

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the Second Amendment front with a fertilizer factory up by Waco exploding spectacularly

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and killing between 10 and 70 people.

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There's different numbers coming out.

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Incidentally, there's a big statewide drill going on yesterday and today there with helicopters

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and ambulances and everything at the nearby hospital, but probably just fertilizer catching

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on fire and exploding.

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So all of this is obviously important, but the magnitude of what we are about to cover

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here today is of undoubtedly, undoubtedly is the culmination of 18 years of my work.

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Oh, no.

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Oh, wow.

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This is my career.

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Can't.

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Gotta focus.

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Gotta focus on this one.

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I'm finally right for the first time.

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I know for sure that the fertilizer factory was a fertilizer explosion.

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It's all been building up to this.

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Can't lie about that.

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So this one I'm right on.

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Let's go and do it.

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No.

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But if you listen to that closely, like he's he's saying it was clearly fertilized to say

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it was not.

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No, for sure.

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There's a fucking statewide drill going on all that.

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That's obviously saying it's a false flag right now.

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No, I understand that.

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I mean, like it's it's just I know I'm going to be lying about that.

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Whereas with this one, I think I'm telling that I don't have time to lie about this right

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now.

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So I got to put that on the back burner for later.

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That's what I think.

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But on the night of the 17th, the fire broke out at this fertilizer plant.

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And approximately 20 minutes later, the whole thing blew up in an explosion so large that

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it registered two point one on the Richter scale.

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Fifteen people were killed and at least 200 were injured.

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Not to even consider the amount of like property damage to surrounding homes.

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One of them was an old folks home that a lot of people got hurt there.

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What exactly happened here is actually still a matter of intense debate.

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The ATF released the results of their investigation on in May 2016, which concluded that the fire

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that had led to the explosion was determined to have been set intentionally.

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Some critics have claimed that this conclusion is inappropriate since they feel that the

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ATF only decided that because they couldn't give any other explanation for how the fire

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had started.

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I'm not entirely sure which side I think has the better point.

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You would assume that if the ATF would make the determination that the fire was arson,

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they'd only do that in the case of them having excluded other possibilities.

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It seems unlikely that they would do a years long investigation, then declare something

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intentional without considering those other possibilities.

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That said, to this day, no specific explanation is known and no one has been arrested for

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the fire.

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So it's really anyone's guess.

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That's weird.

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What exactly happened there?

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Yeah.

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Man, I mean, you got to be you got to be pretty stoked if you get away with blowing up a fertilizer

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factory and nobody knows why.

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Sure.

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I don't know.

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Stokes ain't guilty.

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I would say that's Ocean's Eleven planning is I would feel tortured probably if I got

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away with that.

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I mean, if you want to blow up a fertilizer factory, I guess you can't feel tortured about

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it.

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Yeah.

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Well, I don't know.

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Maybe you could.

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But I guess that's true.

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I guess if it's your goal to do it, you'd probably be like, wow, whoa, whoa.

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So something that leads me to suspect human involvement was an article in Reuters where

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they discussed police records involving the plant that they looked over from the past

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12 years.

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Apparently the plant was a very frequent target for the theft of chemicals, since anhydrous

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ammonia that is in their fertilizer is also something people use to cook meth.

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Right.

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From Reuters, quote, according to a 2002 crime report, a plant manager told the police that

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intruders were stealing four to five gallons of anhydrous ammonia every three days.

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Holy shit.

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Yeah.

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That's a lot.

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Yeah.

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Inconsistent.

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That's some good meth.

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And the problem here, Jordan, is that they didn't ramp up security in response to these

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regular break ins.

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Reuters found at least 11 reports of burglaries and, quote, five separate ammonia leaks at

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the plant in the prior 12 years.

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OK.

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Well, I'm going to go with inside job.

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Or just people who would come in to try and steal shit, they'd also like mess with the

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valves and stuff.

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For sure.

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For sure.

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Why not?

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There's so many possibilities in terms of like, oh, there's a lot of people who weren't

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supposed to be here, who seem to be coming here a lot to steal chemicals.

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But none of that's conclusive.

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And it would seem to indicate a bit of a pattern of negligence at the part of the plant to

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secure their facility, which would leave it open to either an arsonist or someone trying

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to steal shit who just makes a huge mistake that ends up causing a fire.

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Yeah.

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It sounds more like if we're dealing with chemicals to cook meth, I'm leaning more towards

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the guy came in and was like, oh, fuck, I fucked that up.

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And boom.

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Recklessness is entirely possible, but still.

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Oh, yeah.

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I'm not sure what happened here other than it was a horrible tragedy for the people of

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West Texas.

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The city of West, it was absolutely unrelated to the Boston bombing.

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And I have a strong suspicion that Alex is being, like I said, facetious when he says

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it was just fertilizer catching on fire.

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I think he does think that it's related.

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Otherwise why would he bring up this alleged drill that took place?

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I can find literally zero evidence that there was a hospital drill there at the time.

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An article in nurse.com discusses how the medical staff at Hillcrest Baptist Medical

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Center and Providence Health Center dealt with the chaotic and traumatic situation with

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a near heroic level of poise.

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The two hospitals had to treat hundreds of extra patients with a range of injuries more

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or less all at once.

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They worked effectively as a team and Heather Branch, the assistant manager of the Hillcrest

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Hospital Emergency Department said, quote, it was a life changing experience.

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We'll forever know that no matter what disaster rolls through the doors, we will always be

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there for each other.

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One of the reasons they were able to operate so effectively as a team and able to treat

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victims so effectively is that a year prior, they had been part of a drill that recreated

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an emergency situation like this, which involved hospitals from the surrounding five counties.

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It involved inter-hospital cooperation, which was an essential piece of the response to

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the fertilizer plant explosion.

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Eileen Bohannon, the emergency department director at Providence Health Center said,

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quote, what we learned from previous drills were put into place for this and I cannot

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tell you how smoothly it ran.

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The only reality to the idea that there were hospital drills involved in the actual location

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that was affected by this is that a year prior, nurses and doctors learned immensely valuable

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lessons about teamwork and crisis management that they were able to put into action that

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literally saved lives.

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If you do drills, that means you're setting up a false flag.

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If you don't do drills and you fail miserably, that means the globalists fucking tried to

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destroy you.

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I hate these people so much, but thank God they did that drill.

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That's amazing.

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Wow.

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That's really cool.

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Yeah.

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And it's very interesting to see the actual fruits of the drill, to see these people were

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able to do this triage so effectively.

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The article's talking about how some of the people that were coming in that were needing

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treatment were people that they knew, and so people were crying.

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Nurses were breaking down in the middle of it and people would tag in.

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You'd be able to, okay, go cry in the other room for five minutes, and no one's judging

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each other because they understand that this is a human part of the response, and there's

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a job that needs to be done.

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You also have to accommodate people who are having a difficult time with the job.

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You wouldn't be able to do that so effectively had it not been for the consideration of that

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training.

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Oh, yeah.

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I imagine somebody you know coming in with a broken arm and you happen to be like, hey,

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you're nowhere near as important as these 40 people, and you have to just say, sit in

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there.

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I have a friend, and maybe you won't talk to me as much after this, but I got to save

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lives, yo.

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Now, later in the episode, actually more information comes up about this, so I might as well just

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talk about this now.

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It's clarified that they're not talking about that drill from a year ago, although the hospitals

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that were affected and actually in the area of this fertilizer plant explosion, that's

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the only drill that's relevant to them.

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Max and his people are actually talking about a drill that did not affect those hospitals.

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There was an emergency preparedness drill planned for April 18, 2013 at the North Hills

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Medical Center, but it was canceled because of the explosion on the night of the 17th.

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Now, this might be interesting if North Hills Medical Center was in Waco or in West, but

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it's not.

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It's 80 miles north in North Richland Hills, Texas, a suburb of Fort Worth.

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This game is so fucking sad.

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You see how flimsy this shit is, and you realize that there's nothing you can do.

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There's nothing you could do to correct this.

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If you think a drill at a hospital 80 miles away on the wrong day is somehow cause for

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suspicion of whether or not this explosion is real or the work of the globalists, you're

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almost certainly past the point of getting back to reality.

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That's why Alex doesn't speak in specifics, because he would know that this shit is fucking

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weak as hell.

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I don't know.

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An hour and 10-minute drive isn't that big a deal.

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You could set up a drill 80 miles north, throw people off your scent, drive an hour and 10

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minutes south, blow up a factory, get back up there, and be like, we gotta cancel the

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drill.

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Bullshit.

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Easy stuff.

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Nope.

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Easy stuff.

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Nope.

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I'm not saying I've planned one before.

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I'm just saying that...

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It invalidates Alex's conspiracy, quite frankly.

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Of course.

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So, now we get to Alex talking about these pictures some more that he found on 4chan,

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and it's interesting the way he needs to really strengthen this argument, because I think

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maybe when he got off air, he kind of realized like, you know what, those are just pictures

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that we found on 4chan.

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We might need to really dress this up and make it look like this is some really official

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shit.

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I think the best way to go over this today is to start at the beginning of what happened.

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Anonymous, and that's all they want to be known as.

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Anonymous has contacted us as well, and it is a real group affiliated with a white hat

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Anonymous, and said, have you seen this data dump of photos and videos?

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This shows what appears to be Navy Seals, and that was one of the data dumps I hadn't

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even gotten to yet, and I saw it was Navy Seals.

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And it shows what looks like Saudi Nationals, and it shows what looks like the Patsies,

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and sure enough, it's dead on analysis, it shows the redneck Patsies.

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So it's now some white hat intelligence operatives who are operating as Anonymous, who have sent

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him this data dump, as opposed to Paul Joseph Watson was lurking on an Anonymous message

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board and found some pictures with squiggly lines drawn on them.

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They set it up in our digital dropbox.

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It's pretty crazy.

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So as the time has gone on now, Alex has only become more convinced that he is leading the

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media, and that the media is in fact scared of what he's doing on air.

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And I would say that there's probably some truth to that.

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Like, I think right-thinking people who are aware of what he was doing-

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Oh, I'm very scared of what he's doing on air, yeah.

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Yeah, scared of the effect that this could have.

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But I don't think they're scared in terms of he's blowing our cover or anything.

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I think they're like, uh-oh.

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Hey, he's got a guy on calling for treason.

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Are we?

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Okay.

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Are we calling for something?

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Not just calling for treason.

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Calling for acts.

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Or armed treason.

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Yeah.

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Clone actors.

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Okay.

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Cool.

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Cool, cool, cool, cool.

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So Alex is certain that he does something.

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Media response.

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Sure.

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And I want to explain something.

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They monitor this show.

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That's on record.

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Five minutes after we broke this yesterday at noon central, high noon, I walked out and

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had three TVs on, two in here and one in the pantry, in the break room.

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And I watched CNN and MSNBC, the reporters while their guests were talking, getting messages

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in their ears, and I saw the adrenaline rush, like when you catch burglars in your house

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or something.

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And I knew what was about to come out of their mouth, and I ran back in here and I said,

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watch this.

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And I knew what they were gonna say next out of their mouth, because live time they were

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listening to us.

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It's five minutes later.

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And Blitzer goes, they've now arrested a suspect and they've got photos.

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They're gonna be releasing photos very soon.

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And I went on air and I said, I just saw them freak out.

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They're going to release photos.

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But I said, if they're smart, I guess they were listening to that, they actually won't

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because now we're gonna be able to point out everybody else in the other photos, the Navy

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Seals, the Saudis that were getting ready to go with the good old boy angle.

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The liberal media run by the White House, MSNBC, Media Matters, all of them, had already

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come out and said, it will be a white person.

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It's a lone wolf.

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Janet Napolitano had said that, Axelrod, the fix was in, and ladies and gentlemen, we blew

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their op.

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He's convinced, completely blown the op.

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Man, that's one of those things where I almost just want to be like, okay, and then just

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like, fine.

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Unfortunately, you and I are probably the only people who can't respond that way.

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Everyone else can just be like, all right, Alex, go ahead.

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It's just like, ah, that's so terrible.

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No one is listening to you.

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And I think actually a lot of people are now, but not the imagined globalist.

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In hindsight, this whole thing is really easy to see through as a transparent display of

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narcissism and a guy being wrong.

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The easiest way to put it is that Alex thinks that he's way ahead of this story when he's

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nowhere near anything real.

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The only thing that I think is important to point out here is that Alex is once again

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massaging facts from the day prior in order to make it look like he called everything.

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First, the announcement that the FBI had photos was made prior to the erroneous announcement

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that an arrest had been made.

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It makes little sense for them to announce those two things simultaneously as if they're

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saying we captured the guy and took some pictures for you.

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This is a blurring of the timeline Alex is using to make it seem like the mainstream

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media was an even greater disarray and chaos than they actually were because that's the

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image he needs to present.

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He needs you to think that they had legitimately no idea what to do because Alex was blowing

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the case wide open and their response was completely nonsensical coverage.

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The second thing is that he never predicted that CNN was going to announce they had photos.

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He may have said that off air, I guess I can't prove that he didn't, but he never said that

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on air.

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Alex was completely surprised when CNN made their announcement and freaking out himself.

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Third, he did predict that they would need to come up with new photos of people to pin

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on the attack on because Alex had blown the case wide open.

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And this, I guess, could be an interpretation of the FBI releasing photos of completely

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different people than Alex was talking about.

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Another possibility, which I think is infinitely more likely, is that the FBI had zeroed in

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on the actual culprits while Alex was playing detective with a bunch of random idiots on

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4chan, and ultimately, they were not talking about the same photos at all.

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This is where Alex's groundwork becomes so amazingly important.

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On the last episode, we heard him say at least twice that although he had figured out this

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entire case and he was right about everything, there's a chance that the globalist would

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change their plans.

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Could happen.

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That single caveat is so crucial to his ability to sustain being wrong all the time while

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pretending he's always right.

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If he's able to construct a reality where he's always right and evidence that contradicts

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his predictions and narratives is just the globalist changing their plans because he's

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too right, there's ultimately nothing you can do to disprove him.

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He's crafted an inescapable box for his audience to live in, and that's a really shitty thing

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for him to do ever, but particularly in response to a large national tragedy like this, it's

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monstrous.

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Yeah.

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His retconning reminds me so much of In the Loop.

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Have you ever seen that movie?

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I've heard...

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Oh, wait.

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Armando Iannucci.

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He's the guy who did the thick of it.

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I thought you were talking about that movie that starred the guys from In Sync.

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No, no, no, no.

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Not that one.

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I think that's also called In the Loop.

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Was that from Justin De Kelly?

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Was that the one?

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No.

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Oh, okay.

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That's from American Idol.

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He's having this meeting in the government to...

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It's like a thinly veiled thing about the Iraq war.

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Not even thinly veiled, it is.

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And this guy is directing his aide to rewrite the notes from the meeting.

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And he's said something so chilling, which is just like, it doesn't matter what was said.

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What matters is what should have been said.

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And he's rewriting the whole thing.

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It's like, that is such Alex the next day of just like, it doesn't matter what I did

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say.

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It's meant to have said.

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And that's all that matters.

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Right.

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And now it's canon.

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Yeah, exactly.

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And that's not okay to do when you try to pass yourself off as a psychic.

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It's fine if you're just like, hey, I'm a guy who rewrites my past predictions in order

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to make them match what happens.

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So in that last clip, we heard him say that Wolf Blitzer came on and said that they'd

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made an arrest and they have photos, blurring the timeline a bit.

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And now it's clear in this next clip from just a tiny bit after that, Alex is clear

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that the photo announcement came before the botched and erroneous announcement of an arrest.

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And sure enough, he says right out of his mouth, well, they've got some photos of some

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of the suspects right there near the finish line.

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They're going to be releasing.

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They need our help with.

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And and then by the next break, they talked about the arrest.

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They were like, well, let's hurry up then and just roll out our John Doe number one,

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the redneck.

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But see, then they went, no, you can't do that.

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John's already got the photos.

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Alex is just making all of that up.

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He's assuming what was going on in a place he has zero information about.

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He's assuming that he knows everything about what was going on with the people behind the

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scenes at CNN.

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That's important to point out repeatedly.

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He's just making this up completely.

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He has nothing to base this on.

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Yeah.

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Well, of course he is, because we all know that Wolf Blitzer can only say Wolf Blitzer.

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He's like a Pokemon.

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Just some people understand him.

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He just always says Wolf Blitzer, Wolf Blitzer.

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They teach you that in Israeli intelligence, which Alex believes Wolf Blitzer is a part

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of.

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How to read Wolf Blitzer.

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So I believe that Alex is dwelling in a state of very financially lucrative delusions at

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this stretch.

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He has another take on it.

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You're seeing like a spy movie on air right now.

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That's what's going on here.

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This is just completely and totally unprecedented in the history of media.

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I played that also to show that he's saying unprecedented a bunch.

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We're on an unprecedented number of unprecedented.

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I believe that you could argue that this is like a spy movie playing out on air, but it's

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a spy movie that Alex is writing and it's fiction, so that's misleading and really abusive

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to his audience.

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I mean, you could say that War of the Worlds was an alien invasion being played out on

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air.

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Yeah, absolutely.

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Didn't happen, but yeah.

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So Alex gets back to talking about the Anonymous that sent him the data dump here, and he seems

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to think that they're good guys in like the CIA or the FBI.

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Sure, why not?

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They're intelligence community good guys.

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Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

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Anonymous sends us this info and then the Disinfo Ops come out and say, oh, well, maybe

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the government wanted this stuff out.

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This stuff had been out on Twitter and Facebook for days.

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We went yesterday and took the images that Anonymous sent us and that Watson discovered

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and we're now in contact with them.

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We took the images, ran it through a Google image search to find where they originally

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came from.

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It will show you the originator, for those that don't know, that's been out for a couple

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of years, and we found the Facebooks in places where people had just uploaded this.

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So they went out, probably intelligence people that don't like what's happening, grabbed

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all this, sent it to us and said, here it is, OK, Jones?

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And then we put it out and then Drudge picked it up and it was all over.

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The beginning of the collapse of the cover up then began last night when Drudge linked

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to us.

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Good job, Drudge.

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Yeah, thanks, Drudge.

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So he believes that these are good guys in intelligence who hate the false flags that

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are going on.

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So they got all the data dump, sent it to Alex and like, go ahead, Jones, broadcast

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it.

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Oh, I think it's so funny to me that them him announcing that they did a Google image

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search was me was like, that is the most research they have ever admitted actually happening

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on this show.

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And I honestly don't even believe that it's true.

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They just went to a couple of Facebook pages and they're friends.

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I think Alex just knows that Google image search exists.

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Right.

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Right.

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I think that's all that's happening here.

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So at this point, Alex is now kind of because the questioning of Janet Napolitano involved

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like questions about this Saudi Arabian national that was supposedly going to be deported who's

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being conflated with the guy who was injured in the bombing.

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The talk of Saudi nationals has now become much more popular in the conspiracy world.

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And so now Alex is starting to build a case that it's probably going to get pinned on

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Saudi Arabians.

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They are completely and totally freaked out.

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And they should be, because here's the deal.

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Emergency meeting with the Saudi foreign minister.

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They announced they're going to deport.

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Now they're all freaking out this Saudi who was there, but saying he's not a suspect.

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Now they're having to show what looks like the Saudis.

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You watch, it's going to be Saudis.

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Now they're freaking out about that and saying, well, they're not suspects, but we want to

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know because they have to because everybody on the Internet's already seen this.

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That's not a necessary thing for them to do.

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No, no.

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The people on the Internet having seen out of context images that they've created a narrative

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out of does not really have an impact on an investigation that's real.

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So Alex is, you know, he's saying it's going to be the Saudis.

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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I think it has the same level of truth to it as a rumor in 2013 that Jennifer Aniston

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and Brad Pitt were getting back together.

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I think they're I think they were right on the same level.

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It's as relevant to anything.

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Well, we saw him eating dinner one night.

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And it's also not true.

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Like it's this prediction turns out to not be accurate.

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I was saying, I think they're going to go with Saudis.

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Nope, they didn't.

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And Brad and Jennifer never got back together.

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So, well, what a tragedy.

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So in this next clip, Alex asserts that yesterday on the 17th, they were all set to blame white

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gun owners.

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I mean, this is unbelievable, and they were going to blame gun owners yesterday.

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They were going to have their press conference.

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They were going to roll out the Patsy.

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Let's see the Patsy.

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It was actually two of them.

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Let's see the Beavis and butthead central casting achy breaky heart lookalike mullet

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guy who's also got a backpack that matches the one that actually exploded with the strap.

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So Alex is just certain that yesterday they were going to blame that guy.

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He was going to be the Patsy.

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All got blown up in their face because of Alex's reporting.

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And now they're having to shift who they're going to pin it on.

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He's saying now it's going to be the Saudis, probably because he saw the cover of the New

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York Post, assumed it's the same as the DHS, FBI photos.

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It's very simple to see through what's going on here.

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This is very bad work.

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But one of the elements that he's using that is mixed up in his narrative is that on the

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17th, they had a bomb scare and a bomb threat that got called into the courthouse that ended

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up making them cancel the press conference they were going to hold that day.

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He's determined that he knows why that happened.

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And they were going to roll him out yesterday, but didn't.

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Then they had to evacuate the courthouse to get the press out to take this guy out the

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back door.

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And he's probably in cement shoes right now.

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So this is unbelievable.

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Ladies and gentlemen, we have blown a major New World operation sky high.

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It's unbelievable.

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Unbelievable.

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It is unbelievable.

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I don't believe it.

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I think it's impossible to believe.

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So first thing here, Alex has literally no reason to think that this white guy in the

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photos that he found on 4chan and he's decided is the chosen patsy for the globalists to

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blame is dead.

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He has literally zero reason to think that the police ever even talk to that guy.

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To be clear, the only thing that connects him to being in any way important to this

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story is Internet rumor and Alex's fantasies.

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This is the definition of terrible work on Alex's part.

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I don't know who this white guy in these pictures, who he is.

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And I don't particularly want to dig too deep into it to try and find out.

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Everything I can find leads me to believe that he's just a private citizen who was at

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the marathon, who became a central focus on the Internet's witch hunt, largely motivated

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by Alex Jones's desperate need to validate his fears that a white person was going to

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be blamed for the bombing.

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Until anyone can prove that he is anything other than a marathon attendee who happened

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to have a backpack, I believe he deserves his privacy.

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And I wouldn't violate that even to prove Alex Jones wrong.

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But there's a more important aspect to this, and that is that wherever this guy was in

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the days after the bombing, he was very likely not aware or maybe he was aware that pictures

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of him were being spread all over the Internet, implying that he was involved in a plan to

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murder and maim his fellow citizens.

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All evidence seems to indicate that he was a victim of this attack and that he was there

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when the attack happened.

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They are not necessarily sure that he got injured or whatever he might have been.

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I don't know.

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But anyone who is there, I consider a victim of this tragedy.

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And instead of being left to process his experience and move on with his life, he's now being

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blamed for the very thing he just unfortunately had to live through.

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And I don't know what his experience with that was like.

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But from the account of that Saudi Arabian student we discussed earlier, you have to

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assume that it wasn't a positive experience.

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Going from experiencing the terror of a terrorist attack to immediately having unfounded suspicion

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thrown your way is going to be a difficult thing for anyone to go through.

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As I mentioned in the intro, on April 18th, the New York Post ran that cover story with

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an image of two other people that were gathering Internet suspicion with the text, quote, bag

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men, feds seek these two pictured at the Boston Marathon.

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The problem was that they'd gotten this, it was the wrong picture.

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And the one they ran wasn't the one that the FBI was set to release or anything that the

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DHS had announced.

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But in a frenzy to be the first to report, they committed an egregious act of journalistic

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malfeasance.

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This picture that they had published had been circulated by law enforcement.

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But it wasn't in the context that these two were suspects.

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Also, other emails that were later produced clearly said that these men were, quote, not

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of interest and that their being singled out was based on, quote, bogus intel.

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In October 2014, the New York Post would settle a defamation lawsuit for this cover for an

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undisclosed amount.

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But something it is so important to not lose sight of is how damaging these actions are

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to the people who are the subject of them.

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The Washington Post reported on one of the men featured on the New York Post cover who

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is only 17 years old.

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His father said, quote, his son now only sleeps one or two hours a night and sometimes refuses

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to go to school.

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This kind of fuck up is deeply traumatic to the people who end up having Internet mobs

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track them down or they can't go to school without everyone thinking they were a part

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of a plot to kill civilians.

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As we criticize Alex's coverage, it's important to point out things like this, like that the

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New York Post did, because if we didn't, it would be slightly dishonest.

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They got sued to fucking oblivion, right?

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Not to oblivion.

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And it's an undisclosed amount, so I don't know how much they gave.

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But that that's exactly the important thing that's the other side of it.

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Like as we criticize the media like them for their horrible errors, there's a distinction

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that the New York Post apologized and got sued for this.

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Alex Jones isn't held to those same standards.

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He relishes acting in this destructive way and he does it with impunity.

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For me, that's a very relevant difference.

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As for the courthouse, that was only evacuated briefly because of a bomb threat that turned

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out to not be real.

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The thing here is that the only thing Alex has to base his theory that they did this

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evacuation to quietly take the white patsy out the back door, the only thing that's based

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on is his own thoughts.

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There's literally nothing else supporting this.

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He can't prove even a basic piece of this theory and it's just embarrassing.

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It's made even worse by the fact that at the same time they evacuated that courthouse,

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the police also evacuated one of the plazas in front of the entrance to Brigham and Women's

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Hospital in Boston, which Alex weirdly doesn't bring up.

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Alex has his explanation that's based on literally nothing except paranoid delusions, whereas

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the reality seems a lot like this is a city that just suffered a bombing and they're taking

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any bomb threats pretty seriously, whether or not they're definitely credible.

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That interferes with government business, it interferes with police business.

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I can't imagine that first text.

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You wake up in the morning and somebody texts you and they're like, the internet thinks

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you did it.

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That's just like, fuck.

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It makes you almost want everybody to have a fucking kill switch for all of their social

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media profiles.

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That's just scrubs them clean and a fucking bug out bad.

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Right.

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But then the internet just thinks you're even more suspicious.

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Yeah, that's fine.

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Bug out, get to fucking Nova Scotia and stay there for a year.

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Yeah, it's terrifying to imagine like, what?

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You can't do anything.

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You can't come out and say like, I'm innocent.

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You get more suspicion on you.

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You can't, you just got to let it blow over and hope no one doxes you and finds your address

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or something.

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You got to lay low for a while.

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Yeah, that's awful.

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So in this next clip, Alex pretends that he had predicted that it would be the Saudis

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already.

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Of course, I don't believe is true based on my listening of these episodes, but I'll let

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him have his after the fact predictions, I guess.

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And remember, folks, I said before all this happened yesterday, I said, you watch, they're

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going to come out and say the Saudis are the people with these photos.

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And then a day later, the photos we break that we show you and the drudge amplifies.

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Homeland Security comes out and says, here's the person of interest.

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And it's the very stills and photos we showed you yesterday.

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And no media gives us credit instead of making fun of us and attacking us.

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Alex is very needy on this episode, if you hadn't noticed.

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He really wants a pat on the head for doing this great reporting.

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I mean, if he does a good job for the first time, he really wants people to have to like

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sit down and be like, find this one time.

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You win.

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Great.

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We'll give you this one.

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No, he wants his own parade.

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Yeah.

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Like he just that's what he wants.

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He wants everyone to like, God, you have been right all along.

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Right.

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Right.

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Right.

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You validated years of bullshit with this.

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This breaks the case.

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And initially I had no idea what Alex was talking about with this idea that the DHS

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released the same photos that he was rambling about.

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Because I've looked into it and I can't find any indication that the DHS had released any

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photos of the suspect up till this point.

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The furthest they'd gone was that Janet Napolitano had testified that they did have photos of

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the suspect.

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Yeah.

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From further digging, I know that Alex is just talking about the New York Post story.

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I consulted the Info Wars website and found that on April 18th, Paul Joseph Watson posted

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an article titled Breaking Police Confirm Info Wars Photos of Boston Suspects, which

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is all just about the New York Post cover.

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You're making this faulty assumption that that is the confirmed police photo.

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OK.

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It's very unlike Info Wars to make corrections.

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But I think it's because the New York Post did get sued for this.

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Right.

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And that might explain why this article includes an editor's note.

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Quote, the above photo was originally given to the New York Post by the FBI as persons

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of interest.

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A day later, the FBI said that they were no longer persons of interest.

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That of course means that the police did not confirm Info Wars photos.

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And this article is total bullshit.

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However, it does clarify for me that this is absolutely what Alex is talking about when

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he imagines that the DHS had the same pictures as him.

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One important thing to point out here, though, is that the picture on the cover of the New

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York Post is absolutely not the same ones that Alex has been obsessing about.

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That was my first issue.

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It's not the same thing.

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Alex is very focused on the white patsy and the guys that he's decided that are Marines,

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whereas the post cover had these two Moroccan gentlemen, one of whom doesn't even have a

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backpack on.

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It's a shoulder strap bag.

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The FBI would go on to release the images of the suspects taken from surveillance cameras

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on April 18th in the afternoon.

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But like I said, it's an afternoon press conference.

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So that hasn't happened by the time Alex is here on air talking about photos being released.

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This is all probably another negative result of the New York Post cover.

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Alex has decided it's an official DHS release.

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And now he's worked it into his narratives, further reinforcing the idea that he's right

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about everything.

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It's real simple, but it's one of those things like the path is really windy, but it's not

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hard to walk if you just look at it.

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It's not much of a maze.

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You could just take it down, man.

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You don't have to leave an editor's note there.

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I mean, you should leave an editor's note there, but you should take the article down

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off of Info Wars.

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You can't write an article confirming you're correct with an editor's note saying we were

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wrong.

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That can't be.

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And it's super rare on Info Wars.

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Like I've found so many articles where they're just straight up 100% wrong about things.

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They've just left up.

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No editor's notes, nothing.

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I have to think it's just because of the lawsuit.

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Then just be like, let's make sure we're not even close to...

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That's the tiniest correction, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

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So at this point, Alex repeats a little bit of internet rumor about this is one of those

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conspiracy spaghetti against the wall things.

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Yeah, yeah, yeah.

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Jennifer and Brad are getting back together.

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Sure.

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Did you know that the marathon ended, the tape ended at, what is it, 666 Boyd Street?

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And we'll put that up.

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All right.

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Boylston Street.

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666 Boylston Street.

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I mean, just the weirdness of all of this.

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And it's so many times stuff like this happens.

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That's the psychopaths leaving their little calling card for you right there.

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Ah, the devil.

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So if Alex thinks it's worth reporting that the marathon ended at 666 Boylston Street,

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I have some bad news about Jared Kushner's property on Fifth Avenue.

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Don't look into that, Alex.

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If you look up this bit of non-trivia about the marathon ending at 666 Boylston, you'll

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find a bunch of very reputable sources picking up the story after the 18th, probably in response

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to Alex amplifying it.

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We're talking about ufoblogger.com.

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We're talking about usahitman.com.

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We're talking about galacticconnection.com.

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All the heavy hitters of hard-hitting news.

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Right, right, right.

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And the New York Post.

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Sure.

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Wouldn't put it past them.

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Right?

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However, if you track down where this tidbit was being reported earlier than April 18th,

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there's only one outlet.

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And thus, it clearly has to be where Alex is taking this information from.

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It's a little bullshit website called beforeitsnews.com.

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Before Its News was started in 2008, possibly with good intentions, as a place where any

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citizen journalist out there could post news items they thought needed more coverage.

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Naturally, this quickly became a favored place for completely insane people to masquerade

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their nonsense as journalism.

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Anybody who would take this place as a credible place to find information is a complete hack

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or delusional.

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Just for fun, I decided to look back and see what Before Its News was running as some of

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their front-page stories at the time when Alex must have taken this 666 shit from them.

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I'm telling you, somebody was a lizard in these.

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Unfortunately, there's no snapshot in the Wayback Machine from the 18th, but there is

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one from the 19th, and here are some of their headlines.

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Quote, Time Travelers Are Among Us!

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Exclamation point.

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Called it.

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Ha ha.

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Quote, Planet X Nabooru, Hard Evidence.

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I don't think that evidence is that hard.

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Quote, Alien Implant Found in Napoleon's Skull!

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Exclamation point.

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Okay.

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I like the exclamation point.

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That one might even require two.

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And this one's a little tougher.

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Quote, The Riddle of the Jews, The Most Profound Mystery in the World.

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I know that's going to be bad.

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I went and read it, and it's bad.

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I know that one's going to be bad.

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That one, of all the headlines, that one is the most ambiguous about whether or not, like,

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you could see it fall one way or the other, but you know it's going to be bad.

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It's bad.

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It's going to be bad.

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It's not good.

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The Riddle of the Jews.

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Jesus.

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It's very anti-Semitic.

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It is.

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Very.

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Oh, man.

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So, and then there's a bunch of coverage about how the Boston bombing is a false flag, and

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a lot of links to Alex's coverage of it.

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This is part of that ecosystem, for its news.

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So there's an essential problem with saying that the finishing line of the marathon was

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at 666 Boylston, and that is the fact that, by definition, the finish line spans the entire

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street.

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Thus, if one side were at 666 Boylston, the other side would have to be maybe 665 Boylston

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or 667.

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There isn't, you know.

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This all traces back to a purported Google Earth image that I'm 90% sure is Photoshopped.

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Here's the reason I think that.

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The image shows a marker saying 666 Boylston in the middle of the street, in the center

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lane of traffic, and it's indicating that the center of traffic has an address.

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The street itself does not have an address.

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The buildings do.

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So it seems strange to me that the street would be showing up as having a physical street

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address.

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The second issue I have is if you look at Google Maps now, and you consult the street

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view, you can easily find the finish line of the marathon.

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Regardless of whether or not it's marathon season, that line is always painted on the

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street.

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If you look at the side of the street that's evenly numbered, you'll find that the marathon's

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finish line is pretty closely matched up with the Boston Public Library, whose address is

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700 Boylston Street.

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The building immediately next to it appears to possibly be a different building, but it's

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actually just an extension of the Boston Library known as the McKim Building.

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It's easily identifiable by its inscription on the side of the building, quote, the Commonwealth

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requires the education of the people as the safeguard of order and liberty.

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Ironic, in some ways, based on these people being so dumb spreading these theories.

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The McKim Building is the home of a lot of research collections, and it's a goddamn gorgeous

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piece of architecture, particularly inside.

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Oh, it looks so cool.

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The McKim Building's physical address is 230 Dartmouth Street, as the main entrance is

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on the intersecting street, Dartmouth.

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There is no 666 Boylston Street.

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These conspiracy theorists could say the finish line is near 665 or 667 Boylston Street, but

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they know that sounds weak as shit.

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So they just pretend that this is a real address and it means something.

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You're mistaking it, OK?

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That is in the middle of the street, because what's directly underneath 666 Boylston Street

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is hell.

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OK.

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That's the physical address of hell, and it's in the middle of the street.

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That happens.

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Everyone knows that hell is actually underneath the WWE ring, where, like, Kane drags people

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down there to the hell.

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Right, right, right.

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Well, they have a system of tunnels.

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Yeah, they pop Kane or, you know, other supernatural characters will pop up and drag someone down

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under the ring.

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Yeah, demons are a lot like gophers.

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Yeah, yeah.

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So it can't be under Boylston Street, unfortunately.

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Good theory, but we know it's the WWE ring.

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No manhole there?

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Nothing?

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Ah, shit.

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So this is nothing more than bullshit promoted by a completely crackpot website, then amplified

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by Alex.

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Probably one of the least harmful instances of this whole thing, but stupid nonetheless.

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And you'd only be doing shit like this if you wanted to create unnecessary suspicion

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about bullshit.

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That's like people using the Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles address as, like, two twenty-four

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and an eighth?

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What is that?

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How can I find that?

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Like the pizza delivery thing?

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Yeah, yeah, yeah.

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So in this next clip, Alex is deepening his expressions of how fucking pissed off he is

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that no one's giving him credit for breaking these pictures ahead of the DHS announcing

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their pictures, which are obviously the same.

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It would be annoying.

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And now I looked at Janet Napolitano.

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She looked like a deer in the headlights, like she was completely freaked out and on

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methamphetamine today during the congressional hearing where she said, we do have two photos

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of men of interest.

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The photos we showed you yesterday, I'm going to say that again.

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You know, the New York Times or CNN or Fox News said, hey, look at these photos we found.

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Don't these look suspicious?

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You know, they'll show you a guy on the roof all day and say, who is it?

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Who could it be?

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Because there it's all blurred and you can't tell.

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But for a day, there are these photos and videos and none of them will show it until

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the government says, now it's OK to show this.

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And they show you some photos that we already showed you.

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And no one gives us credit.

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Instead, there are hundreds of hit pieces saying I'm crazy and dangerous yesterday and

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today.

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You know why I'm crazy and dangerous?

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Because I've got my head screwed on, ladies and gentlemen, and I'm not stupid.

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This is really sad, you know, in hindsight.

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But it makes sense, like, how he could trick people into thinking this in the moment.

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Yeah.

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Like, it's the next day when the FBI has actually released the pictures.

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This looks really stupid.

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This looks like a child thinking he's right about something and mad that everyone's saying

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he's wrong.

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Yes.

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Yeah.

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And actually kind of illustrates why people would write hit pieces about him being irresponsible.

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Right.

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Right.

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Because you were wrong about this.

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Right.

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You were putting undue focus on private citizens in a way that's deeply dangerous.

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Yeah.

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We'll give you credit for fucking the shit up, but you were not right about anything.

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Right.

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So you get that pat on the head.

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Yeah.

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No kidding.

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So it's not only that now Janet Apolitano, the DHS, all of them have come out with the

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same pictures that Alex has been reporting on for a day.

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They're also now apparently in the congressional record.

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Okay.

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And it looks like the patsy, when you see the explosion, he runs with his clothes half

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blown off like a cartoon character.

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You know, when Yosemite Sam has the bomb go off, that's what it really looks like when

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a bomb goes off close to you.

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You see him running, probably set up, probably that's probably their suspect.

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They had him at the courthouse.

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They were going to roll him out and they canceled it.

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And again, this is not my speculation.

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I told you yesterday that these are the photos of the Saudis.

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And then now today it's in congressional hearings, the photos of the Saudis.

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The congressional hearing is the Janet Apolitano speaking with the Homeland Security Committee

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in the house.

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But these pictures weren't released then.

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She just discussed that there were pictures that they had.

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So this is just Alex yelling about nothing, just, you know, this is bullshit.

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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But on our last episode, on the 17th, Alex had Steve Pachanik on to commit treason.

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Right.

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Specifically for that purpose, I assume.

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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Well, I mean, it was partially that, but also to give the motive for the false flag.

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Right.

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Right.

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Right.

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Right.

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And now we see the next day that Alex is just parroting that.

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The exact same motive that Steve Pachanik gave him, Alex is using it.

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Also, two days ago, a congressional bipartisan commission said there was a systematic order

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of torture, including children by Bush and by Obama and a deliberate attempt to cover

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it up and continue to order the military to engage in hardcore class A felonies.

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Punishable by death, by the way, that is the punishment for torturing people to death,

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including children.

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Again, this wasn't a bipartisan congressional report that came out.

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It was made by a nongovernmental organization called the Constitution Project, which the

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specific report was funded by grants from the Rockefellers and the Open Society Soros

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Foundation.

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Right.

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There's all a lot of bullshit, but Alex is using it.

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He's using it as like, they needed to get that out of the headlines, that's why they

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did this false flag.

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You see all the pieces coming into place.

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You get the answers for the why, the how, the who, and he needs to do it because he's

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running out of time.

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Yeah, it doesn't matter where you get your ingredients if it helps you make a good soup.

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And you know, it's just very, the thing that's such a bummer about this is like, it's so

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easy to see through if you just look at it.

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But it also is like, I can project back to that time when there's not a lot of information

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available.

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It's such an easy thing to manipulate people about.

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It's such a dangerous space to have large groups of people in this high-anxiety, high-tension

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state.

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Yeah.

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Scary.

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You're, like, even if you would normally otherwise be able to see directly through this for the

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transparent bullshit that it is, in a fucking emotional, overridden state, it's just going

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to hit you before you can really do that.

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You've got a mist over your eyes, you've got the fog of war going on over your eyes, that

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kind of situation.

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Yeah, and I think it comes back to that same thing where it's like, cult recruitment is

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a lot easier with people who are in vulnerable states of their life.

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Like you just have a breakup or something like that, you get kicked out of your house,

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parents kick you out, it's much easier for nefarious groups to come in and attack.

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And in the same way, I think it would, like, I can see how it would be so easy for people

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to be seduced with Alex's conspiracy bullshit that, again, all of this is not based on anything,

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except him looking at pictures and being like, ah, that's what that guy is.

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This is the perfect time for something like this to happen.

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The ingredients are so right for him, and I think that's a lot of the part of why looking

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at this makes me really anxious, is because you can see the variables there, and you can

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see Alex behaving in such a way as he, like, to suggest that he's aware of that too.

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Like to suggest that he knows that this is when the tide is coming in, and I have to

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act.

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Yeah, I mean, but that's been borne out probably throughout his entire career.

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I'm sure it has.

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After every tragedy is his moment to strike.

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I'm sure it has, but this is on another level.

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Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, for sure, absolutely.

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And it feels so clear in a way that other ones that we've looked at haven't been.

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So the government and the media and the globalists, they're in crisis right now because Alex has

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busted their whole game, and this clip is stupid.

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See, the government right now is having a come to Jesus moment, because they all play

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at being tough, they all play at being evil, they all play at doing hardcore stuff, but

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becoming evil to guard good, and that old Machiavellian lie of guard the truth with

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lies and be more evil than the devil to protect good.

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You don't protect good, you become the devil.

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Sure.

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And you lose providence when you do that.

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You lose God's hedge of protection.

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It's a curse on our land to have these leaders.

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Would you say that you lose the mandate of heaven?

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You know, that's kind of bestowed on a very touch and go.

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Would you say that the leaders lose the mandate of heaven, or you say the hedge of God's protection?

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I suppose.

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Are you...

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I suppose.

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It's funny that Alex now seems to think that's a Chinese thing that Pat Robertson is indoctrinating

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people with, and it seems very consistent for him.

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Well, the hedge thing is more of a green thumb scenario, so...

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Perhaps, perhaps.

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Chinese don't own green thumbs.

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So in this next clip...

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Do they?

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I don't know.

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Okay.

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So Alex, in this next clip, he teases that he's got a message for the globalists.

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Sure.

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Because he knows that they're listening.

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And it's kind of fun, but also, I should tell you, he never gives his message to the globalists.

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And later, at the start of the next hour, I want to talk to the globalists.

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I thought about this this morning in a moment of clarity.

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I have a message.

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I have a message to the globalists that we're going to be going over and getting to.

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He doesn't get to that message, but I mean, you could argue that this entire thing is,

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you know...

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He gets to that message.

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Yeah.

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Yeah, yeah, yeah.

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But he never sits down and is like, alright, here's what I want to say to you.

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This Sunday.

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In a moment of clarity, my first thought was, I'm a monster who should be destroyed.

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And my next thought was, here's what I need to say to the globalists.

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I should talk shit on the globalists.

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So Alex believes that, he starts spinning into a little bit of religious stuff throughout

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this episode.

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Sure.

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And one of the things he discusses is the fact that he has guardian angels, and he is

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literally unkillable.

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And I don't mean to get off into mumbo jumbo, that's not what it is, ladies and gentlemen,

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but it's real.

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I have guardian angels.

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And the new world order cannot kill me unless God decides it's time for me to die.

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Do you understand that?

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I cannot be killed until God decides.

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And my whole life, incredible things have happened.

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That's pretty wild.

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I mean, based upon his interpretation of the Bible, that is true regardless of whether

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or not he has any kind of heavenly protection.

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Yeah.

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Do you know what I mean?

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I mean, everybody's date and time is predetermined by God.

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Right.

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But I don't know if that's what he's saying.

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I feel like there's more behind it than that.

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Right, right, right, right.

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There's like a, he's bulletproof, until- No, no, no, I understand.

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Because he's here on a mission from God.

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Right, right, right, right.

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And I'm totally fine with the idea that people have vague notions about guardian angels and

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stuff.

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Like, we've all had close calls that'd be like, whoa, afterwards they're like, holy

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shit, I should be dead.

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Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

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I don't believe that that's divine protection, I don't care, that's your prerogative.

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However, I think that the way that Alex is framing this is super fucked up.

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For one, he's making it a thing where God has to decide in order for him to even be

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killable.

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Anything that anyone could possibly do to him wouldn't work, since God and the angels

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are protecting him.

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That's all good and well, but if he really believed that, then why would he be so obsessed

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with guns?

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Why would he constantly talk about how many guns he keeps in the studio?

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Wouldn't he be comfortable in the fact that even if someone broke into Infowars HQ with

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a gun, they wouldn't be able to do anything because he has God's protection?

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The question gets even weirder when you consider that Alex now employs round-the-clock bodyguards

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who are allegedly ex-Blackwater employees.

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Why would Alex need mercenaries to protect him if any attack against him wouldn't work?

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The only way to make this make sense is if Alex knows that he doesn't have God's protection.

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He knows that what he's doing is evil.

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And while it works really well to pay lip service to this idea of God having made me

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an indestructible warrior, deep down, he knows that he's manipulating people and is a force

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for bad in the world.

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File this, Jordan, under the heading of more possible evidence that Alex did join up with

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those Satanists when he was a child.

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I do think that might be the case.

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As always, God helps those who shoot other people.

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That's how the saying goes, right?

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I suppose so.

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But really, the only way to make that make sense is if he wouldn't have these bodyguards

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and be obsessed with arming himself to the teeth if he felt he had divine protection.

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He would be all about nonviolence and walking through life untouchable.

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Like Jesus.

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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He would be more like Jesus or the Christ or the professed leader of his religion.

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I'm sure he does have some oil paintings of God with an AK in his house.

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I would assume that he does.

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So Alex gets to talking about Dan Badandi, who, as we heard on the last episode, and

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I believe even the one before that, has gone to Boston and he is an official InfoWars employee.

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He's there with an InfoWars mic.

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He's yelling infowars.com at everybody and trying to disrupt these press conferences

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that the mayor of Boston and the authorities are trying to give to calm the public and

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to help them get whatever information out is known and determined by these investigations.

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So Alex gets to playing the clips of Dan Badandi's up till this point work at press conferences.

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But it takes him forever to get to it because he can't stop talking about the footage.

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And this is Dan Badandi.

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And you see it from his perspective at the camera with the governor and the police commissioner

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and the mayor and the ATF head all looking at him like they want to kill him instantly.

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In criminology, if somebody doesn't recognize what you're saying, I've had cops question

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me before and FBI and Secret Service, and they're watching to see when they show me

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something if I automatically recognize it.

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And they're sitting there watching to see if I have to remember it.

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That's basic police work.

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And the minute Badandi asked him, they jolt when he says the drill and the false flag

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and their eyes all come alive and they swing around and start, you know, I mean, guilty

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as sin, guilty as a pig.

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And you know what?

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Now, it doesn't mean they did the bombing.

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It means they know about the drill.

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They've been told shut up.

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And the governor, the governor looks what goes from being the fake smiley guy like he

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is at the memorial service to instantly battle mode.

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His eyes, his eyebrows go up.

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His teeth almost show.

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I mean, he, he, oh, yeah, no, he doesn't.

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He literally just says no.

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Next question.

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He doesn't get mad.

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Nothing like that.

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But does he almost show his teeth, Dan?

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I don't think so.

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I went and watched Dan Badandi's POV video of the press conference and they don't show

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anything close to what Alex is describing.

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If you go and watch them, you'll see if anything, an exceeding level of patience being displayed

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towards Dan Badandi.

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They don't kick him out even though he's clearly being disruptive and making accusations as

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opposed to asking questions.

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Governor Patrick does not almost show his teeth and rage to answer your question.

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Okay.

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Honestly, the best you could argue based on the footage is that he expresses slight annoyance.

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This is really important to Alex's narrative though.

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No matter what response Dan Badandi got, Alex was gonna frame it as these officials being

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caught with their hand in the cookie jar.

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It's really a very basic propaganda trick.

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You go and send some annoying asshole to go yell at a press conference and you have a

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pretty high likelihood of him causing a scene.

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If he gets thrown out, you can argue that they can't handle the truth.

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If the officials yell at him, you can make the same argument.

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I think Alex was kind of betting on something like that happening and all Badandi managed

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to provoke is the governor giving him a one-word answer to his question.

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Because there's nothing here, Alex has to go really overboard in characterizing the

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video and it's honestly really pathetic.

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Yeah.

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I think the most important point here is that the video that Alex does end up showing is

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edited to make it look like the press conference ends in response to Badandi's question when

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in fact they've just cut out the officials responding to other people's questions.

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This too is a crucial piece of Alex's narrative.

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He needs to make it appear that they're so afraid of this question of false flags and

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the drill that they run away from planned press conferences to reinforce this narrative

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that Alex is pushing that the information he's putting out is so dangerous and real.

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All of this is smoke and mirrors and edits because they know damn well if they just played

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the raw footage of the press conference, Badandi would just look like a sad loud loser who

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the adults are putting up with politely and that doesn't work well for the narrative.

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You force the narrative, they're scared.

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Yeah.

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That would be a good test of their, of Alex's gaslighting powers is that could you play

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the full unedited video and coach people so well beforehand that when they watch it, they

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do see what it is you think they want to see, right?

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Yes.

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Of course you can do that.

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Once the narrative's in place, that's what they'll see when they watch the video.

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Even if they don't see it.

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Even if they don't see it, they'll say that they saw it.

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It's almost like I'm surprised that they even bothered to edit the video.

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Well, it makes it easier as a point of entry because right now you can't show the...

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Because it's not established nearly enough.

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That's a good point.

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That's a good point.

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We're not going for just the diehards.

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We're trying to get new eyes on it.

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Alex knows that his traffic, he said on the last episode, his traffic doubled.

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Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

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He's trying to get people to do Google bombs where they, like everybody search for false

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flags so the analytics goes even higher on it when all of Alex's articles are tagged

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false flag and the meta tags and stuff like that.

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So obviously he knows that's going to drive more traffic to him.

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He's trying to do this.

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Yeah.

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It's a...

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Yeah, yeah, yeah.

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The full press conference would work with people who have already internalized the narrative.

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But you need the edited version in order to get them to the point where they would internalize

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it.

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It helps.

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It's one of the only things that's like intersecting with the real world of this investigation

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is we have Dan Badandi yelling at people at press conferences.

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It's such a crucial piece of the propaganda pageant that Alex is putting on that you need

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to edit it.

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But I do agree.

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I do agree that eventually you could just show the whole thing.

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Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

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It wouldn't matter, but not at this point.

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Yeah, no, that's what I'm saying.

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It is another really interesting difference between then and now where the president can

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admit to committing crimes and people will be like, nah, he didn't commit crimes.

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He just primes people to believe whatever it is he want.

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And now in the present, when we're listening to Alex Jones, he's not really bothering with

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trying to attract, you know, he's trying to attract new listeners as much as possible,

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but he's not bothering with trying to trick them.

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He's like, here's what you get.

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He has some, I mean, we don't often end up listening to his clips that he plays of Trump,

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but they're often, you know, the parts that are most interesting to other folk are not

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included.

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Yeah.

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There's times where he says incredibly stupid shit isn't included.

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So I mean, there is still editing presentation to fit his narrative for sure.

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But I think your point also stands that he's probably less interested in the wide net appeal

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at this point.

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I think he probably recognizes in 2019 that that boat sailed.

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Yeah, the big tent is gone.

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When in 2013, there was still some pretense of like, I could probably appeal to everyone.

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Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

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So Alex is mad that the media won't show the photos that he broke a day before.

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Again, this is like a recurring theme through this episode.

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Just mad at the media.

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They're covering it up.

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They're controlled.

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The controlled media won't show the pictures that I broke.

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The government isn't showing these photos.

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Why not show these photos, media?

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You'd think, hey, look at these photos Infowars.com has.

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Look at these photos of all these people.

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You showed me a guy on a roof.

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What about all these guys in doorways crouched suspiciously with big black bags right where

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the bomb went off?

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Oh, but it doesn't fit the narrative of the redneck.

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You were going to blame us for the bombing.

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I mean, I could see the whole buildup and the controlled White House run media, MSNBC

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and others were saying, we told you it was going to be a white tea partier.

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It's a lone wolf, Homeland Security.

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That's all they'll say.

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They're getting ready.

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We got you gun owners.

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We got you.

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We got you.

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You got us.

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As I know you're watching right now, all angry, most of your foreign intelligence operatives

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and globalist, you're all stomping around right now at media matters and MSNBC taping

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what I'm saying, hopping mad, probably, probably, probably, you know, imagine some papers have

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been thrown and who got blown, who got defeated, who got exposed, who tell me again, and I'm

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not taunting these people.

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I want them to understand they're going to be defeated.

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So I mean, it's important that he even says it.

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I imagine papers were thrown.

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He's just fantasizing about what's going on and passing it off to his audiences.

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This is what's going where we're in a toe to toe battle with the media.

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It's so stupid.

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It is.

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It is a so like now it's it's like I'm so used to it, but it is still incredibly annoying

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when these supposed powerful men whine and whimper so much.

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They do this all the time.

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Why is the media paying attention to me?

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Why don't I get all the coverage?

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That's the flip side of Alex's narcissism.

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Yeah, like that.

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That's the soft underbelly of it.

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Well, they all do it just whining all the time.

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I'm so powerful and why doesn't anybody like me?

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Yeah, there is that dichotomy.

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So this is something I delight in.

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A lot of this is really stupid.

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His coverage of the bombing, a lot of it is very intensive in terms of like figuring out

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where he's getting these ideas from and stuff like that.

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But every now and again, you find a nice oasis.

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And this is one of them.

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Alex decides to read a comment from an Infowars article.

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Oh, no.

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And he realizes in the middle of it, I shouldn't have started reading this comment.

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This is great.

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Mike down for this.

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In our article on Infowars.com, Obama covering up shoddy link to Boston bombing.

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I love the comment by Anonymous.

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Real quick, just to point out, it's really important to...

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He said he loves this comment.

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He doesn't think it's actually...

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No, I think it's...

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He knows it's just an anonymous comment.

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That's irrelevant.

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I don't think that he thinks that.

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Right.

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The only important thing is he sets this up by saying, I love this comment.

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Who commented at 11 a.m.

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Simple arithmetic, guys, you can punch this up.

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Thank you.

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Simple arithmetic, my friends.

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One, orchestrate bombing on Patriots Day in city of original Boston Tea Party.

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Two, detonate bombs near the finish line at the end of the race where slow Caucasians

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trudged forth and not earlier when the Olympic caliber, and it goes on, are also about the

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finish line.

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Three, create major news distractions.

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Uh-oh, this dude's a racist.

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This comment is super racist.

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It's one of the things that I'm super pissed off about, about Alex being deplatformed.

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It's that when the company that moderated his comments dropped him, all the comments

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disappeared from Infowars, like all the articles.

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I can find this article that Alex is talking about, but there's just no comments on it.

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I can even pull it up in the Wayback Machine, but comments don't populate anymore.

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I really wanted to track down this comment because I wanted to know if the commenter

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used the N-word.

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That's my only question.

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You could totally hear Alex realize that he started reading an explicitly racist comment,

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and he started off by saying, I love this comment, and he realizes, I'm in trouble.

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There's nothing funnier than Alex saying, quote, Olympic caliber, and it goes on.

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It's so stupid.

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Did he say that they were going to put it up on the screen?

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They may have.

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I don't know.

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I can't find video of this, but it's like Alex thinks he can just edit out the parts

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of things he's reading that create problems for him by saying, it goes on.

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He tried that trick when he was reading that article about his fan who kidnapped his children

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so he wouldn't have to read the part about the guy tying up the kid's grandmother, and

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now he's clearly doing it so he won't have to draw attention to the fact that he introduced

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this clearly racist internet comment by saying he loved it.

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The only question I have is how racist it was.

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If it threw Alex for a loop, that makes me think it had to be really racist.

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I would bet it's N-word level racist.

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Oh, yeah.

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Anyway, Alex realized that he was in a bit of a pickle since he said he loved the comment,

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so he tried to mask the comment's racism, but he made the mistake of keeping on reading,

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and here's what happens.

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D, communist fascist takeover of USA by new world order with closet homosexual, closet

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Muslim sociopath, foreign plan Obama as point man dictator.

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And again, I don't read that to be mean to gay people or something.

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I actually hadn't read the full comment.

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I thought I would just read one.

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This is kind of silly, but.

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I hadn't read it.

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I love this comment.

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Haven't read it.

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I didn't hear him giggling when the comment says that Obama's a closet homosexual.

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Don't pretend that you don't love this shit.

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It's so stupid.

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I love this comment.

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I hadn't read it.

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Love this comment.

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N-word, N-word, N-word, N-word.

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Fucking coward.

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Maybe I'll start in the middle.

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So that's the level of shit that's taking up some of his time.

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Reading comments that he hasn't read that he finds out are racist in the middle of them.

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I love this comment.

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It's titled, The Riddle of the Jews.

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How do we...

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Right.

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Found this great article on Before It Smells.

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Very insightful.

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So 30 white horses on a red hill.

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I think that the fact that he's taking time to do shit like that should indicate that

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this next clip might not be accurate.

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All right.

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If you're just joining us, this is the most historic radio broadcast in 18 years I've

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ever done.

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We received from Anonymous and we did Google searches on the photos that confirm they were

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from Twitter accounts and news stations that didn't know what they had.

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We received from Anonymous contact sent to Paul Watson.

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We are in contact with the folks that sent us the information.

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They've asked that we not mention what hacker group they're with.

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We'll just say they're anonymous, that they went out.

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It's obviously intelligence people who don't like what's happening.

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That Navy SEALs were there at the event at the finish line all over the place with radiation

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detectors, black backpacks.

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We're talking 20 feet, max 20 yards, between 20 and 60 feet from the bombers right there

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by the flags.

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There was a drill which they've been caught lying about.

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So the important thing here is that it's so important for him to paint this anonymous

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person or 4chan being his source as intelligence operatives because it's such a hole in the

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narrative.

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And he needs to patch up that hole.

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It needs to come from some very legitimate credible source, which is these anonymous

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good people within the intelligence community who are sick of the bullshit.

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Otherwise closer analysis is, Alex, you just took this from a message board.

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What are you doing?

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See, I can't understand how it is we're supposed to reconcile two things in the same sentence,

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which is, first, we Google searched it and it's been on a bunch of Twitter accounts already.

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And two, it was given to us directly by these intelligence officials.

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The Googling and the Twitter accounts was after the fact, after the intelligence people

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had gathered all of those photos from all these disparate places and sent them to Alex

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in a data dump.

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In reality, Paul Joseph Watson was cruising 4chan, found these images, told Alex about

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it and now they've created a back story for a better source for the information.

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It's not professional work here.

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No, it is not.

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But Alex, I mean, it's a...

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And the reality of that Google search is still, the jury's out.

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It's debatable whether or not Alex knows how to perform that operation, but he does know

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it's real, which is good.

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So here, file this next clip under the headline of Alex just constantly complaining that no

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one is, again, throwing him a parade for his awesome reporting.

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This shows you how controlled the media is.

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It's so controlled.

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That only Infowars.com and DrudgeReport.com are covering this.

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And the photos we released are the photos they were forced to then put out, the very

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photos a day later.

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But they won't say, the media stands around to wait till the government gives them a photo

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and ignores, hey, who was right?

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Wow, good job, Infowars.com, Paul Watson, Alex Jones, Matt Drudge, Matt Drudge's crew.

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He's just so bent out of shape that no one is congratulating him for doing bad work.

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Like obviously, it's just insane.

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It's so pathetic.

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This is the first time he really believes he did good work.

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I think you're right.

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And I think that's why he's responding this way.

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He's like, for real, guys, look, you know, I know.

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We both know what's been going on.

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But this time I did it.

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He always wants a parade.

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But the extent to which he is like so focused on no one giving him credit, it does have

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a different feel to it than a lot of other times, which is wild.

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So Alex starts faking hyperventilating on air in order to sort of sell the illusion

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that this is like real serious time.

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And in the process ends up making a ludicrous statement.

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Of course.

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I'm having so many butterflies that I'm actually hyperventilating on air.

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OK, I mean, I mean, that's how big this is.

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Because this is like catching people again, burying the dead bodies on film in the backyard.

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This is this is open and shut smoking gun.

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You call in all these people.

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You ask who ordered him to do what.

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You'll find out who was in charge.

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You'll find out who was handling who.

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You'll find out who did this and who blew up the marathon.

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I mean, we're sitting here.

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This will destroy the globalist.

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So it's an open and shut case, man.

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We caught video.

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Do you agree?

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We caught video of them burying the bodies in the backyard.

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Do you agree that this is open and shut?

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I don't think there's any other conclusion I could draw based on the evidence he's provided.

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This case is not open and shut.

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Let me explore with you here some of the things you'd need to do, even if you're going to

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listen to the way Alex is saying, like, first you get these people, ask them who's running

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what.

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Right.

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These steps are still needed to prove his case.

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Even if he's right, which he's not.

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First, you've got to figure out who these people are in these photos.

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Alex's crack team still hasn't put any names to anyone, and this anonymous intelligence

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agent he imagined is contacting him doesn't seem to know who any of these people are.

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So that seems like it's still a hurdle that needs to be hurtled.

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So that's a problem.

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The globalists remove people's names whenever they become operatives.

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Next.

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Then, once you figure out who these people are, if they're willing to submit to an interview,

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you can ask them questions, but there's no guarantee that any of them are going to talk

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to you.

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That could be a difficulty.

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If, let's, you know, let's pretend that Alex is the cops, and one of these people says

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I want a lawyer.

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Alex seems to imagine he could just take these out-of-context pictures to a judge and just

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keep saying, come on, at them until they give you a subpoena or some shit.

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Part of the globalist deal with the devil is that if you get caught, you have to tell

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the truth.

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It's a reverse.

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The police have to tell you the police situation.

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Next.

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Then, imagining somehow you compel these people to talk, what if you interview them and they

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say that no one was ordering them to do anything?

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What evidence do you have that they're lying?

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If guys like Alex Thinks are Marines special ops just said we were at the marathon and

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you think we look weird, what evidence is going to provide to contradict them?

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This would be a disaster of a case to try and prove anywhere except for Infowars.

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This fantasy bullshit where Alex has just decided all these connections that he's making

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in his head exist in the real world really is scary.

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It's very scary if you imagine that he means all of this, you know, like, oh, this is an

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open and shut case.

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It's not.

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You haven't proved anything.

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Yeah.

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Based on his numerous lawsuits and the like, it's almost like he really doesn't understand

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any of the laws or how court works.

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No.

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He just doesn't have any concept of it.

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No.

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I think that might be a function of him always having really shady lawyers.

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Yeah.

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That's true.

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So we get back now to this sort of theme throughout the episode of Alex wanting a parade for his

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great work.

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And then there's a sort of break in the story that isn't a break.

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You notice no media is going, wow, Alex Jones, of all people, got the photos of who they

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say they're looking for now.

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Why didn't the media over several days and you think I'm so busy, you know, you think

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I'd be looking at this stuff close and it was all hiding in plain view in front of everyone.

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Dude just came in here during the break is why I'm hyperventilating with a stack of new

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high def photos.

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And stills out of the city of Boston surveillance footage.

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And it shows the handlers of the Saudis.

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And you can see the body language, all of it.

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And again, people say, oh, you're just speculating.

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Oh, I told you who they would be forced to release with the Saudis.

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I told you the Navy SEAL stuff that's now all over the place.

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It's not all over the place like it's not.

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It's in the shit media online.

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Yeah.

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And the New York Post cover.

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Yeah.

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However, it's important to point out that the Post didn't get the image that they used

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from the same source that Alex is pulling from, though they're guilty of a similar journalistic

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crime.

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They were at least operating off bogus emails from actual law enforcement reporting bad

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information that they didn't thoroughly vet, whereas Alex is getting random pictures from

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4chan and writing a story about him because Alex gets all of his news from websites that

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are completely full of shit and sensational nonsense.

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He naturally thinks that the entirety of the media is talking about the same things he

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was covering already and that he was way ahead of them.

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It's just because he's conflated these things.

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He saw the Post cover, and he also heard that Janet Napolitano had announced that the FBI

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was going to release pictures of the suspects.

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He doesn't realize that the FBI has not yet released these images, so he's most likely

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assuming that the Post cover is in fact the release of the suspect pictures.

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The men on the cover were Moroccan, but Alex is dumb and racist, so he assumes all brown

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people are basically the same.

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So he thinks that this picture is of the Saudi Arabians who were at the marathon, who were

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the new patsies, now that he's blown up the hillbilly angle.

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He's further conflated the Saudi student who was injured in the bombing and an unrelated

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Saudi student who was taken in by ICE for not registering for classes and turned them

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into the same person in order to suggest that the Saudi Arabian patsy is going to be taken

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out of the country, and that's what this meeting Obama had with the Saudi foreign minister

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was about.

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It's really interesting because all the faulty steps he makes in his reporting are pretty

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clear if you just listen to him and have some distance from the actual event.

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It's super easy in 2019 to see the glaring holes here and how he so eagerly fills them

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in with the narrative of his own design, but in April 2013, it'd be fucking hard to concretely

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point out these lies.

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You could say, I don't know if that makes sense.

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You couldn't say like, oh no, here's, you know.

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That's demonstrably untrue.

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Yeah.

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There wasn't a lot of information going around.

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There's a climate of fear and anxiety, and the way he so confidently makes these dumbass

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assertions is seductive.

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It's really one of the worst parts about looking at this stretch of time, seeing how dumb what

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he's saying is, but seeing how easy it would be to be convinced that there's something

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to it.

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I know I'm saying that kind of consistently and repeatedly because I think it's an important

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idea.

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I think it's, as we go through this, it's important to not lose track of the climate

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and how people's emotions were at that time and how he's willingly and aggressively manipulating

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them.

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He gave up the game on that clip because he said, the media isn't saying Alex Jones, of

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all people, is correct on this.

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That of all people means he knows.

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Because he generally presents himself as being 100% correct all the time.

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So what it should be is they are forced, he's like, now they're forced to admit I'm correct.

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As opposed to him saying Alex Jones, of all people, because we both know the deal.

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Of all people, it turns out I'm correct this time.

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That could be the case, or he could be expressing that he's aware that the media hates him.

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And so they would be saying, of all people, we hate him, but he's right about this.

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Right.

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It's possible.

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Either one is a possible reading of it.

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I suppose.

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So Alex gets into a fantasy here about how this white patsy that he's found in these

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pictures is probably being tortured.

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The only white patsy I know is from Jessica Jones.

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All right.

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Patsy Cline.

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Yeah.

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So he just has this fantasy about this dude being tortured.

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It's kind of gross.

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There's video and photos of it all.

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There's video of undercover police, it looks like, leading the mentally ill.

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That's what the guy looks like to me.

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Body language, all of it.

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Leading up the poor patsy, who probably thought he was a secret agent now.

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He looks so proud to be on Team America.

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He doesn't know he's going to be drugged up and rolled out as the new McVeigh.

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He's going to be electro-shocked, tortured, drugged up for trial, just like all the other

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patsies.

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It's so horrible.

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And you know what?

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The operation was blown for you.

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This is unprecedented.

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So now they're going to say, oh, maybe it's Saudis.

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Oh, we sent them back to Saudi Arabia.

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Never mind.

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Oh, we met with the Saudi foreign minister emergency meeting.

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We canceled the press conference, blah, blah, blah, on and on and on.

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They do not want this out.

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They do not want this discussed.

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They do not want you talking about it.

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They do not.

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They needed to blame the Patriot Tea Party for this show bad.

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Oh, no, you needed the appearance of them blaming it would have been so good because

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he keeps talking about this and I can't really find a lot of good evidence that people were

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blaming right wing white Patriot folk.

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Yeah.

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And he keeps saying that they're all over the media saying it and he doesn't play any

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clips of that.

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I went to Infowars.

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I can't find any articles of them demonstrating that.

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I think it's just the fact that he's built that up as it needs to be the narrative that

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they are doing.

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This is now established and he's reporting on his own perceptions from previous days.

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I don't I don't think that the media needed to do that.

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I think he needed that.

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Yeah, yeah, it's gross.

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And all that stuff about this dude is just imagine.

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Yeah, all of it is just he saw a couple of still images of this guy and has decided that

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he's mentally handicapped.

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Has decided that he got enlisted by, oh, you're going to be a hero.

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All all of that is made up.

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It has nothing to do with any reality that he can point to, like anything other than

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his fantasies.

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Right.

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That is it.

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I'm always because because he ascribes everybody's traits to their appearance, like always, if

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he thinks somebody is bad, Hillary looks like a demon.

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They look like demons, like all of that shit.

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I am always curious of what it is he would describe himself as looking like in the mirror,

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like I would in the same way that I want specifics on a heroic cowboy Calvin Klein model who's

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just put on a little bit too much weight because he's busy fighting the globalist.

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Right.

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It has to be something like that.

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Right.

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That is how he describes himself.

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But how how could you possibly see that?

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Like that's something that fascinates me is like what it is that his eyes.

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I want to see what he sees.

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I'd rather not.

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Like, I want to know if there are pink elephants flying through the air.

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Like I want to know.

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There's always carnival music playing in his head.

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I should correct myself.

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Alex doesn't just fantasize and have his own ideas about them blaming the Patriots.

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He also has evidence.

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I mean, that's like Gary Hart on the CFR Commission wrote public letters and a paper saying we

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need stage terror attacks, just like Penac did the September 20th Rebuilding America's

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Defenses thing.

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And then one time we are change is in my film, Truth Rising, founding at an event.

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He was at a book signing and came up and said, you wrote those letters and put out that public

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report saying we staged terror attacks in America and that we should do it again.

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He goes, no, I didn't.

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What are you talking about, son?

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They go, well, here's your letter.

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And when he read it, he started sweating and going, oh, well, I that was a mock letter.

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I see.

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They don't even think of us as human.

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You publish this stuff in the CFR.

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You publish this stuff publicly.

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And we're not supposed to go with a copy of it.

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So this Gary Hart letter, let's find out about this Gary Hart letter.

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This is some sloppy bullshit.

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So I can't find a clip of what Alex is talking about with him sweating and freaking out,

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mostly because I'm not willing to watch Truth Rising just to find some context for what

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he's talking about.

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Gary Hart's reaction.

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I'm certain that Alex is embellishing and misrepresenting Gary Hart's reaction, but

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none of that really matters.

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On 911truth.org, there's an article about this letter that Gary Hart wrote.

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The first thing that's important to point out is that this letter wasn't written for

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the CFR or anything like that.

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Even if Gary Hart was a member of the CFR, it was an op-ed he wrote for the Huffington

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Post in September 2007.

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The letter is titled, quote, unsolicited advice for the government of Iran.

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And one thing that's important to point out is at this point in 2007, things were not

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good between the U.S. and Iran.

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In January of that year, the U.S. had raided the Iranian liaison office in Iraq, which

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was serving as the de facto consulate, and they took five consular officers hostage,

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which they wouldn't release these dudes until July 2009.

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It was super tense.

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And Hart's letter exists within that context.

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Was Iran taking unsolicited advice at that time or?

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I'm not sure if they were reading the HuffPo.

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I don't think that was their main.

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His unsolicited advice to Iran was that the U.S. does not go to war unless it's provoked,

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but sometimes it seems like certain more hawkish elements like to provoke provocation.

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But it's important to point out what he's talking about is not false flags necessarily.

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He's talking about advising Iran to avoid giving someone like Dick Cheney the excuse

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he's dying to find to justify going into another war.

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On the letter, quote, you would probably be well advised to keep your forces, including

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clandestine forces, as far away from the Iraqi border as you can.

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You might even consider bringing in some neighbors to verify that you're not shipping arms next

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door.

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Tone down the rhetoric on Zionism.

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You've established your credentials with those in your world who thrive on that.

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If it makes you feel more powerful to hurl accusations at the American eagle, have at

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it.

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Sticks and stones, et cetera.

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And for the next 16 months or so, you should not only not take provocative actions, you

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should not seem to be doing so.

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For the vast majority of Americans who seek no wider war in the Middle East or elsewhere,

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don't tempt fate.

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Don't give a certain vice president we know the justification he's seeking to attack your

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country.

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Yeah.

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This letter in no way is saying we do false flags and we should do more of them.

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That's an absurd misrepresentation of the message that Hart was expressing.

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But that shouldn't be too surprising at this point.

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I remember I specifically remember the next day when the Ayatollah had a unsolicited letter

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to Gary Hart in the HuffPost that just said, who are you?

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And that was it.

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He actually thought he was Corey Hart.

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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That letter made no sense.

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Yeah.

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No, it was weird.

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Stop wearing sunglasses at night.

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So in this next clip, Alex loses his mind yelling and all of this is bullshit.

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Just keep that in mind as we look to this, like you think we're animals, like all these

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other people.

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You think I don't see you don't think I don't know you want to raise my property taxes and

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cut the Second Amendment and take my kids from me.

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And you say the state runs my kids on MSNBC.

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You don't think we're not going to fight you.

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You don't think we don't know you're going to blow stuff up and try to blame us.

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You don't think we're not watching now, you rat bastards.

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You don't think there's not fight left around here.

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Not all of us are in comas watching TV, buddy.

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Not all of us are busy, you know, down at the bar watching UFC, looking tough in front

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of our buddies.

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Not all of us are here to be run over.

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Not all of us are fake men.

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You know how slime I've got I've got countless clips of CNN, MSNBC even yesterday going,

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you know, it's gun owners did this.

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You know, they use powder from the gun shops to do it.

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I mean, I even predicted that he does not play those clips.

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But surprise that clip right there is nothing more than performative masculinity.

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Yeah, there is no passion behind any of that.

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That was completely artificial.

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And most importantly, nothing he's saying is true.

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Like I said, he's yet to play any of these clips of CNN or any other media outlets salivating

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at the thought of this bombing being a gun owner, right winger, and nothing I could find

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on his website seems to prove that at all.

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He's just playing his role.

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And he's seeing that it's working like his traffic is way up.

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So he's leaning hard into being the guy who knows everything about the bombing is willing

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to fight you over it.

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But unfortunately, he's living on borrowed time, because in reality, he knows that he

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hasn't predicted anything.

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Yeah.

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The thing that I'm particularly interesting there is how he said that he predicted that

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the globalist would ban powder from the gun shops there at the end of the clip.

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He didn't predict that.

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If you recall, that came from a 4chan post that he read on air when he was trying to

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present as a troll post, which he started agreeing with as he read it.

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If anything, he should be saying they're blaming the powder from the gun shops.

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You heard me convinced by a troll post that that was going to happen, but that doesn't

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quite sound as good.

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It doesn't roll off the tongue the same way.

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Not really.

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No.

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So now in 2019, I can look back and confidently say that they didn't outlaw powder, nor did

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anyone seriously propose the idea.

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Shit.

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The bombs were made from fireworks, and you can still get fireworks in most places.

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And the places you can't didn't ban them because of the Boston bombing.

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They did it because some kid lost an arm a decade ago and the city council voted he can't.

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You have to drive to outside city limits to get fireworks.

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Yeah, yeah, yeah.

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Nothing.

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That solved it.

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Nothing Alex is saying is real.

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This is all just performance presented as truth because he knows his traffic is up and

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he knows what makes him interesting, right?

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It's this sort of bullshit yelling overconfidence.

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I'm right about everything.

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I've predicted all this shit.

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He knows that that's the honey that he can get people drawn in with.

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I always like when he adds those tiny little personal annoyances that like, like going

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to the bar and watching UFC is fairly specific.

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He's mad at Rogan.

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Yeah.

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Like there's a, you know, he's referencing somebody in particular.

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Rogan won't have him on his podcast.

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Like it, it reminds me a little bit of Dante's Inferno whenever he creates all of these specific

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hells and he populates them with people that he knows.

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This motherfucker right here.

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Yeah.

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All the globalists are like this asshole, Dave, I hate Dave.

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All the globalists are, whether you be watching UFC, like Joe, the random name pick it out

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of the hat.

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Yeah.

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It does feel that way.

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Maybe some job, but it also like comedian or whatever.

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It also falls in line with his like anger at, um, sublimating masculinity, like stuff.

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But I mean, who cares?

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He's just talking shit.

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So anyway, Alex says, uh, in this next clip that, uh, he, there were democratic fundraising

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letters that, uh, he found that were going around, they were saying we need another Oklahoma

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city bombing.

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Sure.

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Um, and this isn't true.

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I mean, you people are running around in democratic fundraising letters saying to your million

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dollar donors, don't worry, there'll be a new Oklahoma city.

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We're going to win our agenda.

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Your money's well spent with us even letting their donors in like, don't worry, we're going

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to blow stuff up.

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I mean, I have to sit here and watch these psychos on power trips reading their teleprompters

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on MSNBC going, you know, all their twinkly eyes of just criminal energy just going, and

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you know, it's an RA that did this bombing and we're going to get these people.

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I mean, just over the top authoritarian scum.

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Still yet to play any of those clips.

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So I can't find any evidence that there were ever, uh, any democratic fundraising emails

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that said things like, don't worry, there's going to be another Oklahoma city bombing.

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There's literally no way I believe that such a thing could exist without being plastered

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all over every single right wing media site online.

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I would imagine that what's being misrepresented here is that some organization, maybe even

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the SPLC sent out a fundraising email that discussed the growing threat of right wing

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terrorism, not as a positive thing, but as a thing that they make it their business to

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keep an eye on.

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It would make sense for them to raise money by pointing out that, you know, as the tea

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party movement has grown, the more dangerous militia communities have grown along with

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it, reaching levels on scene since the mid nineties, which did lead to the Oklahoma city

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bombing.

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That would make total sense for them.

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And Alex's track record is littered with him misrepresenting things like that.

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So I would probably assume that's what he's talking about.

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Yeah, I can't.

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I mean, if they sent that an actual, if they literally sent that actual thing as a real

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thing, we would still be hearing it from all of the evidence of it would be everywhere.

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Yeah, every day we would still be hearing, see how evil the SPLC is?

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Like every day.

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Yeah.

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The closest I can find to this is a couple of comments that people made that were saying

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that Obama needed a unifying moment to save his presidency back in 2010.

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In one instance, Mark Penn said in an appearance on Hardball, quote, remember President remember

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President Clinton reconnected with Oklahoma, right?

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And the president right now seems removed.

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It wasn't until that speech that Clinton really clicked with the American public.

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Obama needs a similar thing.

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This isn't saying that Obama needs a new Oklahoma City bombing to save his presidency.

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It's saying that Clinton reconnected with the American public in that speech that he

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gave after the bombing.

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And Obama needs to similarly reconnect.

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It's not about the terrorist attack.

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It's about the speech.

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The other instance was Robert Shapiro saying in an article in the Financial Times, quote,

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the bottom line here is that Americans don't believe in President Obama's leadership.

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He has to find some way between now and November of demonstrating that he's a leader who can

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command confidence, and short of a 9-11 event or an Oklahoma City bombing, I can't think

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of how he could do that.

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You could read that as a guy saying that Obama better fake a terrorist attack soon, or you

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could read it as a political commentator using an extreme example to express how bad a situation

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Obama was in at the time.

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Mark Penn's comment came a couple of days after the 2010 midterms, when the GOP won

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back control of the House and gained six seats in the Senate, effectively putting a halt

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to most of the hope that Obama had of having a cooperative Congress.

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So you can kind of see how a political commentator might see the prospects right then of not

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being good.

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Then Shapiro's comment literally says, quote, between now and November.

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And that's referencing that he said this right before the 2010 midterms.

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Shapiro's articulating that there's a rise in tide within conservatism happening at the

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same time that Obama's approval ratings were falling, and it didn't look good for him.

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So he's probably going to get battered at the midterms.

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But he did.

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Yeah.

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The only way to read either of these comments is expressing the need for some fake terrorist

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attack is if you're already convinced that that's what the people are saying.

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God, I can't even think about 2008 to 2010.

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I just can't think about it.

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You shouldn't.

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Like if I think about it hard enough to like, Obama, we had a Democratic president, super

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majorities in the House and Senate, and the astonishing amount of power you can see now

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is just welled by 37 senators.

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It's like we could have imagined if Bernie had been president.

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Don't even think about it.

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Oh, I can't think about it.

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I can't think about it.

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So while I can't find any evidence about a Democratic fundraising email or letter similar

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to what Alex is saying, I should tell you that I did find a fundraising letter sent

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out by then executive vice president of the NRA, Wayne LaPierre, six days before the Oklahoma

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City bombing in 1995.

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Hey, guys, we're about to blow up the Oklahoma.

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Yeah.

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This letter painted federal agents as thugs to, quote, harass, intimidate, and even murder

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law abiding citizens, according to an article in the Christian Science Monitor about the

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letter, quote, Mr. LaPierre urges gun owners to take action before there's no freedom left

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in America.

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Right.

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Now, obviously, this letter didn't inspire Timothy McVeigh to blow up that federal building.

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We can be sure of that because of the timing.

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It just doesn't work out.

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It's not soon enough.

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It's tough to get around the fact, however, that what initially comes off as exaggerated

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bombastic advocacy for gun rights kind of looks like exactly the same ideology that

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inspired the bombing of a federal building a week later.

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Oh, and then I also found an article from the LA Times from April 28th, 1995, just after

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the Oklahoma City bombing.

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Listen to this damn headline, quote, Oklahoma City after the bomb, lobbyists' stymie efforts

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to trace explosives, bombs, technology, such as the use of tiny chips and material to find

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blast origin has been around for years, but NRA, others have blocked its usage.

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My first thought, that headline is unwieldy.

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Someone needed to take another pass at that.

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Yeah.

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The 90s were tough.

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Yeah.

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Pre-clickbait era.

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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Different time for headlines.

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Different time.

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Different time.

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You see, though, there are these indestructible microscopic chips called Taggants that can

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be put in all explosives sold in this country that could very easily trace back any bombs

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used in attacks like this.

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In the 1980s, the Office of Technology Assessment did a study and found that implementing the

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use of Taggants, quote, could increase arrests related to bombings by as much as 75 percent.

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But you know what?

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That's unilaterally a good thing, right?

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We want more.

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If people bomb stuff, we want to know who did it, right?

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That's a good thing.

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The NRA was super against it.

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I don't know why.

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And they lobbied really hard against the move and ultimately defeated it.

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I can't imagine why.

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There are people who are like the group that represents explosives manufacturers were against

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it as well.

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Of course.

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But their reason was because they make explosives for like mining.

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Of course.

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And yeah, that sort of thing, demolition.

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And their position was that adding these Taggants could make the more volatile explosives or

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there could be safety issues.

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Other people have studied it and said that it wouldn't.

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So there's a lot of back and forth.

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I don't think that the NRA is above board on this.

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Anyway, when people talk about how the NRA is basically a terrorist organization, these

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are some of the reasons.

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Their rhetoric is indistinguishable from domestic terrorists and their actions make it exceedingly

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difficult for law enforcement to solve crimes committed by domestic terrorists.

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That's why people make those sorts of comments.

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Yeah.

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You know, it's like if ISIS was like, hey, don't investigate us.

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Oh, wait.

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No, it's exactly like that because that's who they are.

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Right.

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Yeah.

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So when Alex eventually does get around to saying that people are blaming the NRA, it

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might be that there is a news report about how the NRA blocked the efforts to put Taggants

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in explosives.

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Sure, sure, sure, sure, sure.

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I'm guessing that probably on MSNBC or CNN, there was a small piece about this history

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of advocacy that would have made solving this bombing probably super easy.

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But then again, I don't know if that's the case.

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I don't know if these Taggants would have been put in fireworks as well.

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Right, right, right.

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I don't know if it would have.

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But anyway, if anything, it was just a discussion of their advocacy for making terrorism harder

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to track.

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Yeah.

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That's a noble cause, Dan.

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So anyway, this next clip, Alex tries to make people more afraid.

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There's high def video and photo everywhere.

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They're now admitting that we were right, that we broke it, but not giving us credit.

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And it's hidden in plain view.

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I'll give the number out, open phones in the next hour, and then the gun grabbers throwing

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fits that they haven't gotten our guns yet.

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But don't worry.

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They've got schizophrenics on drugs, wound up, probably putting guns in their hands right

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now.

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So the globalists are putting guns in the hands of crazy people that they've drugged

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up.

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They're going to come to your house.

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They're out there.

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Well, obviously.

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It's right now.

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This is happening.

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There's going to be more attacks because I've blown their operation sky high.

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Everyone admits that I'm right, but they won't say it's me.

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It's crazy.

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This is insanely irresponsible.

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So he says that the gun grabbers are freaking out.

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And one of his main pieces of evidence is that Harry Reid, in giving a speech, said

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that we don't need to be caught off track and get distracted by these black helicopter

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types who say there's false flags.

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Naturally.

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So, of course, the black helicopter types who say there are false flags freaked the

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fuck out.

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In Alex's introduction to talking about this, he accuses Harry Reid of throwing a fit.

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There we go.

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And if you listen to this, he's giving a very calm speech that Alex throws a fit while listening

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to.

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Sure.

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This country and everything good in the world was founded on guts and it was founded on

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telling the truth.

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And when you know evil's going on, you got to not lie to yourself about it and rationalize

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and be all shaky and oh, who knows?

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No.

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Day one, I said I saw the buildup to this false flag and this is exactly what it looks

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like now.

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And now Harry Reid is talking about false flags as he throws fits, saying that they've

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been unable to get our guns.

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Here's a clip of that.

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We can keep them off the streets.

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We should keep them off the streets.

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You got plenty of guns, don't you, buddy?

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In the 1920s, organized crime was committing murders.

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Oh, he's so loud.

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With machine guns.

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Yeah, that was used to restrict our guns.

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He's throwing a fit.

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Valentine's Day massacre.

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They still got them.

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So Congress dramatically limited the sale and transfer of machine guns.

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Yeah, full auto.

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You don't even need that.

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A long time ago.

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Yeah, a bunch of bulls started to take our guns then, traitor.

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The result, machine guns basically disappeared from the streets.

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They're in movies, but not private citizens ahead of them.

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We can and should make the same common sense approach to the modern weapons of war.

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Assault weapons.

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That's why I will vote for Diane.

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But you're a criminal who only wants the guns for yourself, punk.

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Because we must strike a better balance between the right to defend ourselves and the right

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of every child in America to grow up safe from gun violence.

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Like the ones that got blown up at the...

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I'll vote for the band because maintaining a law and order is more important than satisfying

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conspiracy theories.

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You scum.

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Who believe in black helicopters and false flags.

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Oh, turn him off.

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That's enough of that, punk.

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Listen, we're getting to them.

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They don't like it.

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Full speed ahead.

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Intensify operations.

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Just discredit them.

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Every time you email one of our stories, every time you talk about false flags, every time

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you expose what they've done, every time you just bring them closer to defeat.

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So again, the only sort of solution is give me free advertising.

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Promote my shit.

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That's the only solution that we're advocating for.

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Go yell at people or whatever.

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This is just further in that pattern that Alex has that like, this is Harry Reid giving

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a very common sense, measured reaction.

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Alex can't allow that to stand.

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It's too sensible.

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He's already portrayed it as him having a fit.

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So he has to keep interrupting it and yelling over the clip.

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Otherwise you'll realize he's not at all having a fit.

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No, he's completely misrepresenting what this is.

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This is how Alex deals with content that he has to alter a little bit.

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I mean, hey, look, Alex, just to be clear, don't talk over clips to people who can't

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talk back.

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That's my job.

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I'm better at it.

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Oh boy, shots fired.

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So Alex said that they're putting guns in the hands of schizophrenics who are on drugs

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and they're coming and he continues that line here saying that they're going to have to

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do another false flag now that Alex has blown up their original one.

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They don't know what to do.

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They had the fake arrest.

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They were going to announce it was a gun owner.

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They had everything and now it's all screwed up by the grace of God.

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You wanted to frame us and now you can't.

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So better carry out another false flag real quick, huh?

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That's what you, you guys always do the same thing.

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So I've been thinking about what they'll do and they'll probably blow some more stuff

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up and they might've set the fire at that, um, at that thing up in Texas.

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That's a perfect thing to get this out of the news.

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They're in total panic mode.

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I don't know that I don't have evidence of that, so we don't know, but they do this kind

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of stuff.

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So they are prime suspects.

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Sure.

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Also, go to info war store.com, high quality water filters, the lowest prices with promo

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code water for all the water products, a rare 2013 ad pivot.

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That was a high quality ad pivot too.

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That one was a good one.

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So in that clip, in the same breath, Alex is saying that he has no evidence or proof

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that the explosion in West Texas was a false flag by the globalist, but because he's decided

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that's how they operate, they're the prime suspects.

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It's the type of thing, the imaginary enemy I created who always does that, always does.

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That's demented thinking.

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Oh yeah.

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Using that very same level of shoddy logic, I could just say that one of Alex's fans did

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that West Texas fertilizer plant fire.

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It is the type of thing Alex's fans do.

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It would be so easy.

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I could just say that the fire was set on the night of the 17th and hours earlier on

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Alex's show, he had Steve Pacanich on as a guest, declaring himself in an open state

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of treason against the government, encouraging lone actors to fight back against the state

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that had no authority to rule.

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And since he's full of shit, a fertilizer factory makes sense.

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I have no evidence one of Alex listeners did that, but that would be the effect you'd expect

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to see when a high level credible expert goes on a rabidly anti-government radio show and

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tells the audience that treason is okay and it's time to act.

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Obviously, I don't think that one of Alex's listeners blew up that fertilizer plant, but

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I want to take this moment to demonstrate how flimsy the level of inference he's using

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is.

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Right.

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Actually, even then, yours makes far more sense.

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Yours is far more likely.

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You can personally feel that, but it's not true.

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Just on account of how much meth I imagine Alex's fans do.

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Perhaps.

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Yeah.

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I don't have any data on that.

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Look, I don't know this.

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Could be true.

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This is kind of gross because at this point in the episode, Alex starts sort of trying

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to reclaim the story about the child who died in the Boston Marathon bombing.

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Oh, no.

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He can't reclaim that.

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That's too late.

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He starts trying to, you know, he's saying that they're using it to make you like emotional

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about the bombing.

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Right.

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Right.

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And he's trying to pretend that he wants to use the kid's memory for something else.

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Sure.

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But I would rather not talk about that at all, quite frankly.

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But it's important because in this clip, he discusses his feelings about Sandy Hook and

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whether or not there are actors.

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And I think you might be surprised to hear where his head is at.

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Let's put the little boy on screen.

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You know, the eight year old the media has been using, poor little eight year old.

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Print me an article about him.

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I want to talk.

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I want to talk about him after we take calls coming up.

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You know, they're using him.

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I mean, imagine he died in the Boston Marathon and they'll put out fake conspiracies saying

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nobody died to discredit us all.

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It's a Kat Sunstein option.

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But then there's also some mentally ill people out there that think nothing's real because

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they've lost confidence in the government.

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See, a lot of idiots now know the government's lines.

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They don't believe anything.

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And just because the government's lying all the time and doing stuff doesn't mean that

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everything is a lie or does it mean that, you know, nothing happened to Sandy Hook?

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No, no, no, no.

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If they've ever got a chance to kill some real kids, they're going to.

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Because they enjoy their work.

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Because if you've killed adults and stuff, I mean, the only thing that really makes you

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feel dark and powerful is to kill little kids.

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I mean, I've studied history, I've studied criminology and our hearts go out of that

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little boy's parents.

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Oh, good.

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He's studied criminology sooner than that.

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What?

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I mean, what he's saying is that the people who are saying that no one died at Sandy Hook

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are crazy.

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Yeah.

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And I have bad news about the guy who committed treason on your show yesterday.

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Yeah, yeah, yeah.

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He has published articles on his blog about how no one died at Sandy Hook.

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He is crazy, though, so Alex is technically correct.

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But Alex is not presenting him as crazy and he's had him on as a guest.

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That's true.

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And a few times, since April 1st, Steve Porchenek has been on a fucking ton on this show and

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he is someone who absolutely believes something that Alex says crazy people believe.

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Yeah, yeah.

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So great, Alex.

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Who then Alex would later believe.

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Clean house, Alex.

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Yeah, no shit.

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This is sad.

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So anyway, you know, talking about this kid I think is pretty gross for Alex to do.

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Especially because as he talks about it a little more, he begins by bragging about his

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empathy.

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I have extreme empathy for people.

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I don't have a transitory, fake, emotional thing where I only have empathy when the government

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and the media tells me it's OK.

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Iraqis kill them all.

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Glass parking lot.

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They're not human.

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I only have empathy when they're white.

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But then you see somebody, they tell you to care about your life.

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It's terrible.

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And then they were going to say the Tea Party blew him up.

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Can you believe those dirty gun owners?

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The mess in me seat was going to come on real sad and go, oh, the little boy killed by the

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gun owners, killed by the dirty Tea Party people.

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We're going to go to commercial.

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The president's coming back to this press conference right now.

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Is there nothing the Tea Party won't do?

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They're so in love.

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We better take their guns.

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When we come back, I'm going to give the number out and take your phone calls on this situation.

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Do you agree with me?

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This is the biggest thing ever.

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This is all his imagination.

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He's mocking an imaginary reporter being emotionally moved by the death of a child.

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This is all just his fantasies.

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He's a sick fucking person who's projecting that sickness onto a sizable audience.

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And I disrespect it greatly.

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That's just such a we talked about, you know, like the first thing that you should ask anybody

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is like, are you proficient at everything?

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And a psychopath says, yes, I'm great at everything.

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And that includes the one thing they are literally one to one incapable of doing, which is experiencing

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empathy.

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He's great.

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He's like, I have the best empathy, which is the least empathetic person, the least

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empathetic thing you can say.

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Yep.

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So Alex, he starts or continues down this road that he is arguing that these images

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that came out in the New York Post are the same as the ones that he has and that the

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media and the government and the investigators and the globalists, they all had those photos

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this whole time.

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And they're just itching to release them so they could blame this white patsy.

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And then Alex starts taunting these imaginary enemies, all guaranteed in newsrooms everywhere.

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They want to run with the photos of the Navy SEALs and the Army and the and the redneck.

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And you know, MSNBC and CNN had it all loaded days ago.

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The photos were now build it up.

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Who done it?

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And they were already ready.

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That's why they were like saying, yeah, it's a lone wolf.

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It's not Saudi Arabia.

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That's what we're getting from the Justice Department, Axelrod says, but we're not going

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to tell you yet.

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We want to make sure they're likely got these people.

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Come on.

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Can't we break it?

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Can't we release the redneck patsy first?

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No, no, they've got him.

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They've got him on ice.

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Just get ready.

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Got to build this up before we destroy the tea party.

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All right.

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But you waited too long, didn't you?

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That's a lesson for you.

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You waited too long because we had you off balance exposing false flag and taking over

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the press conference that you were looking at things.

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And while you waited, we hurt you bad, but they're not destroyed yet.

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They're still dangerous.

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This is embarrassing.

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Fuck off.

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Yeah, but that's the same thing.

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They're always the, you know, we're infinitely powered.

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They have, but they close their eyes for one second and that's what we struck.

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It's a key tactic of fascism.

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So Alex has more pictures of the, uh, the bombing and the marathon that he discusses.

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And I've been sort of, I don't know, holding back a little bit of information, kind of,

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I just, you know, who cares?

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And we'll dispense with this major piece of Alex's narrative after this clip.

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And the whole thing is blown wide open.

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Now we have the Navy seals with the Navy seal caps walking around, directing the police

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on video.

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Guys, will you show the footage of the Navy seal with the radiation detector right after

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the bombs go off right there in command and, and the other guys are standing around on

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the street with their big old black backpacks and they were standing right there at the

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end, right there with the guys that's blow everything up reportedly

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And oh no, we shouldn't put all these people on the news and ask, who are they?

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Cause there was no drill.

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So when Alex first started talking about these pictures of the Marines and stuff, uh, there's

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nothing suspicious other than what he's imagining about them.

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So I just let it be and you know, okay, who cares about this?

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This is stupid.

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He doesn't have anything to prove anything.

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Uh, just that he thinks that these people look suspicious, but I knew it was going to

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escalate and now we've gotten to that point where it escalates and it requires a bit of

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an explanation because there are the people who are in these pictures.

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More pictures have come out of them and they are like, one of them is holding a radiation

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detector.

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Yeah.

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So let's discuss why.

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Uh, so he barked, there could have been radiation, but Alex embarked on this conspiracy road

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regarding these guys who he thinks were in the seal team.

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There wasn't any information to go on.

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It was purely based on a couple of pictures that he'd had and he created an entire story

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around entirely out of his own fantasies.

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However, as I said, as the days went on, more pictures of these people came out and more

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information became available that really shot holes in his theories.

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And now I'm going to lay waste to all this nonsense.

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The first thing that you need to understand is that Alex has repeatedly cast suspicion

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on these men in tan pants with backpacks because they look suspicious.

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One of the primary things that made these two men that were caught on camera suspicious

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immediately is that they appeared to be distracted and talking on phones.

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That picture was presented as being before the bombing happened and showed sketchy dudes

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who were up to something.

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Their behavior and the way they were looking around was used as evidence they knew something

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was going to happen.

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However, later it was revealed that this picture was a cropped version of a larger image.

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If you look at the actual picture, this is very much after the bombs went off.

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They appeared distracted and not looking at the marathon and what have you because bombs

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had just exploded.

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Right, right, right.

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That's a good reason to be distracted from a marathon.

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But that doesn't address their outfits.

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They were wearing the same pants and shoes and so was someone who Alex has now found

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a picture of holding a radiation detector.

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So what's up with that?

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That still seems suspicious.

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It's not Mormons.

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On the day of the bombing, people who weren't trying to spin absurd conspiracy theories

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had already found the answer to this question.

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These men were members of the National Guard.

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This was reported on CNN's live blog on April 15th at 3.45 p.m., just about an hour after

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the bombs had exploded.

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Quote, troops from the Massachusetts National Guard were assisting police as well.

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This naturally raises the question, though, why is the National Guard on site at the Boston

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Marathon?

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You know, this would be a good question for Alex to ask, but he's so far away from the

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actual story that he doesn't even realize the answers he's demanding are already available.

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On April 18th, Sergeant First Class John Susi published an article in the Air National Guard

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website about interstate assistance that's common between National Guard units, in particular

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these civil support teams, which is what these men were members of.

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Quote, the Massachusetts team was on duty during the running of the Boston Marathon,

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augmented by similar civil support teams from the New York and Rhode Island National Guards.

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Alex legitimately couldn't have looked at too many of these photos too closely because

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a number of these dudes have big letters CST on their backs, short for Civil Support Team.

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Oh, yeah, that would make sense.

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Kind of a giveaway.

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Yeah, that would help.

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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I guess it would be easy for Alex to just say that it's the same thing.

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You know, I have faith in him that he'd still be able to spin a conspiracy theory out of

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these dudes being, you know, just from they're a completely different organization than he's

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decided they're in.

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Yeah.

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It's still suspicious that civil support teams are there, right?

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Probably not.

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On April 16th, 2013, Eric Durr, the public information director for the New York State

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Military and Naval Affairs Division told the Global Security Newswire, quote, anytime you

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have a high key event where there's a lot of people, there's usually a unit from the

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civil support team in the area to provide assistance to first responders.

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It turns out this is very common.

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According to an article in the Washington Military Department's website, their civil

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support team, quote, supported the presidential inauguration, the governor's inaugural ball,

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and worked with the Seattle Fire and Police at every Seattle Seahawks home game.

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They also helped the Minnesota CST due to their increased need for assistance during

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the 2018 Super Bowl.

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All of these events and tons of other large scale gatherings include a police presence.

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And they're regularly augmented by members of these civil support teams.

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And the only reason this time sticks out in anyone's mind is because it was the time when

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there was actually a terrorist attack that necessitated their activation.

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These teams are specifically and specially trained to respond rapidly to chemical and

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radiological dangers, which is why you see one of them with a radiation detector in one

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of the pictures from right after the bombing.

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They're an important piece of the security puzzle because in case the worst thing possible

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happens, they're trained and ready to deal with it.

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It wasn't the case that the bombs that went off at the marathon were dirty bombs.

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But if they had been, you'd be thanking your lucky stars that those dudes were there because

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they could have saved a lot of lives.

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Anyway, none of this really matters.

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Alex could still easily say that the fact that they were there means that they knew

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something was going to happen or the CST being there meant this was a drill.

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And I guess that's a decent argument if you want to call every Seahawks home game a drill

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too.

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None of this reality of who these men are is going to puncture Alex's conspiracy bullshit.

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But it's still important to point out that by the 18th, when this episode is being recorded,

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it's been two days since Eric Derr publicly talked about who these guys are.

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If Alex is researching this in any way and he's really into the truth like he pretends

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to be, he should know this information by now and he doesn't.

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And you know what's even more interesting?

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None of his callers know this either.

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This is very publicly available information and if these info warriors are really digging

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into the truth like they say they're interested in, I would expect for them to at least be

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coming up with conspiracies about the correct group of people.

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But they don't.

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They just mirror back Alex's narrative that these are seals or mercenary groups.

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It's very cult-like.

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And you know what?

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I know that this is publicly available stuff because I only used information that was available

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by the 18th.

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Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

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To look into who these dudes are and the CST teams.

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Like it's, it's crazy.

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Like I just, I can't, I can't express how stupid this is.

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Alex being like, we demand answers who these people are.

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The answers are there.

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Yeah, yeah, yeah.

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Dumbass.

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Just look.

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No, well, I mean they don't demand answers.

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They demand the answers we want.

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Right.

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I have no interest.

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Why, Dan, why is it that you never see any Islamic leaders condemning radical Islam after

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terrorists attack?

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It's very much the same phenomenon.

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Yep.

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It's the same shit.

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You see what you want.

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You're not looking for answers.

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Yeah.

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You're looking for your narrative.

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I honestly, before you even told me, like it's really interesting the CST thing.

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I'm really glad I learned about that.

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Yeah.

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But if he, if you had said that he saw, he had a photo where they were using a radiation

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detector, my first thought is like, this is just like those old timey photographs where

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it looks like a guy is holding up a cell phone, but that's actually what a hearing aid looked

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like back then.

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Sure.

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Like whatever you say it is, it's bullshit.

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Yeah.

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Or I mean, even if the answer to this question is that they were just like off duty military

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people there who were there for the bombing.

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Yeah.

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Like one of the things that the FEMA director at the time, Craig Fugate, said in an interview

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was that, I don't think it was at the time, I think this was just something that came

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out around that time from a different speech he gave.

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Yeah.

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I can't remember exactly, but his point was that like when you have tragedies, first responders

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in our mind are paramedics and police, but often in reality, first responders are people

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who are there.

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You know, like people, your fellow citizens might be the first responders put a tourniquet

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on you.

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Right, right, right.

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So you could, you know, if the reality wasn't that these were CST team members and that's

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redundant, I apologize.

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These were CST members.

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CST members.

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Yeah.

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If they weren't that, they were just off duty military people, you could still see like

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they're first responding.

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They have some sort of training.

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The police might enlist one of them to carry a radiation thing around.

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Right.

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It would be conceivable, but yeah, the reality is...

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A field medic off duty is not just going to be like, well, not my problem and head home.

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Fuck this noise.

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Yeah, no shit.

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Yeah.

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So...

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Oh man, this is a big deal and I don't want to be anywhere near it.

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So I think this should pretty much explain why a lot of Alex's suspicion about these

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dudes in tan pants in these photographs is bullshit.

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And you know what?

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This also explains why no one's interested in these photos.

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Because anybody, let's say the FBI, who's investigating this would look at that and

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like, oh, there's the CST members.

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They would know what this fucking dude, people are, God damn it.

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Drives me crazy.

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Yeah.

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So transparent.

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Yeah.

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I can't stress enough how maddening it is to look back at this and be like, all of this

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is known.

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It's known.

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It's not like this is closely guarded secrets.

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Who are these men?

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Yeah.

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I mean, but that's the way it all...

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I think it's frustrating just because of the immediacy of it in a certain sense in that

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we've been, you know, on this long roller coaster ride of an investigation.

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But it's like any historian being like, seriously, stop saying that the Civil War was about states'

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rights.

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It's in the God damn declaration that it's about slavery.

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And people are like, no, no, no, no, no.

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You don't know what you're talking about.

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I have...

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It's right here.

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It's the added frustration too of like seeing this and be like, oh, this could have been

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stopped.

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Yeah.

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This information is available.

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Someone could have pointed it out.

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But in reality, I understand too that those feelings don't plague me too much because

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I know how good Alex is at this stuff.

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And I also know that the CST does do training.

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Like they train local police departments for some of the preliminary stuff that they do.

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And so because that's also part of their mandate, I could easily see Alex being like, ah, they

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train people.

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Therefore, exercise.

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It would be still easy for him to make a conspiracy out of this.

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But I don't know.

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I wish that...

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I honestly don't know what I wish.

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Yeah.

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I would like to see more CST training and less training how to shoot unarmed black people

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for my police.

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That would be nice.

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That would be nice.

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So Alex is mad here in this next clip because...

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Sorry, shoot.

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I mean murder.

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He sent Dan Badandi to Boston to yell at the press conferences and derail them.

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And rightly, people are not thrilled with this.

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People are like, this is bullshit.

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This is disruptive behavior.

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This guy is full of shit.

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And so he's mad, particularly at Glenn Beck critiquing him.

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I mean, how dumb did that work?

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Oh, there's no drill, they told our reporter.

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And then the national media said, how dare Alex Jones, the mega troll.

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That was the...

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Was that Yahoo News?

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How dare the mega troll send his reporter to ask about a non-existent drill.

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The scum.

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The scum.

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And Glenn Beck spent 30 minutes yesterday, last night, our crew heard it rebroadcast

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about the terrible conspiracy site, we all know who it is, that says there was security

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people there and that there was a drill.

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God, Alex Jones is just so low.

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I mean, there's nothing he won't do, he's so horrible.

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He's such a bad man.

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Hate to agree with Glenn Beck, but...

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No kidding.

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When you're right, you're right.

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God damn it.

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You gotta give it up to the Somali pirates when they know what they're talking about.

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So Alex gets around to predicting that all the people in the pictures that he has promoted

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and put out are probably going to be killed, which is real nuts.

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But see, most of these people will be killed very, very quickly now.

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And this is like the JFK deal, it's this big, I predict they're gonna kill a bunch of the

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SEALs that were there.

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I predict you're gonna be down in car wrecks, you're gonna be down on heart attacks, you'll

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get shot at shooting ranges, you're all dead.

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So the only chance you've got is to go public right now with what you know.

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These SEALs who are actually CST folk that everyone who is looking into this knows about

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already.

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Yeah.

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This is just sad.

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This is just sad.

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Anyway, Alex is convinced that these are not civil support team people because he doesn't

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know anything.

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Right, right.

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He believes that they're Marines and SEALs, but they're probably higher level than even

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green berets because there are levels higher than green berets.

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And Alex has a great citation for this.

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He can prove it.

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Unintended consequences.

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They just think they can call us conspiracy theorists.

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But now you've got a Navy SEAL convention with what looks like a green beret retiree

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convention.

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And by the way, you just become a green beret and then get recruited into Black Ops.

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Is there like five more levels above it?

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At least.

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There's levels above Delta Force.

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And the most accurate thing is in that movie, No Way Out with Kevin Costner.

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And he goes, who are these men?

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Sure, sure.

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They're men formerly associated with special forces.

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It looks like those exact guys like crouching in doorways with big black backpacks looking

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out like they're on.

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I mean, just this is so bad, folks.

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This is so bad.

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Yeah, that is bad.

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Yeah, that is bad.

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That is bad.

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Very bad.

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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There's so many levels.

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You know what?

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Maybe there are.

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But your evidence of it, the best thing that's ever been shown this is a fucking movie.

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Yeah.

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Stop.

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I would challenge Alex.

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He's going to be in the best Kevin Costner movie, Tin Cup.

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Sure.

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I would challenge Alex to redo his career with the stipulation you can never cite a

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movie and see how well he does.

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You can never use a movie as evidence for your bullshit ideas.

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At what point do you just start saying it's the men in black?

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Sure.

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You know, like fuck off, Alex.

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So Alex in this next clip gives a pump up speech that is great.

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We all love a little bit of fake passion.

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But if you pay close attention to this, I think what you can do is really see the way

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that Alex makes a one to one connection between standing up to tyranny and subscribing to

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his version of Christianity.

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Join me in defeating tyranny.

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Throw fear to the wind.

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Realize the only way through this is to realize the enemy operations and to grow up and face

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the monsters that lurk and inhabit our government and major corporations.

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The only way to be free is to be free and stand as free men and women have done throughout

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history and declare your independence.

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Declare your independence at a spiritual subatomic level.

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Declare your independence in your soul, in your will, in your intellect.

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And then that will will work its will upon the world.

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Being free is a decision.

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That's all you have to do is commit to truth and ask God to open your heart, open your

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mind and to use you as a vessel against evil.

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Pray that prayer and turn yourself fully over to life and the Holy Spirit and the universe

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will open up and the living water of Jesus Christ will flow straight out of the time

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space continuum and you will truly be free.

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Wow.

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That's insane.

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Man, you see, though, there's this like explicit connection between his political ideas and

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trying to evangelize for his fucked up version of Christianity.

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It's very it's very clear in moments like that.

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It happens with on a semi regular basis, though, like that that explicit connection is drawn.

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It's it's troubling.

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Yeah.

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I don't know.

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Like, here's what I would imagine for him post info wars.

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All he's got to do is just edit a bunch of those type of clips together.

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And he's got the next best selling self-help book.

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Right.

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Like that sounds so much like an Eckhart Tolle, but with fucking rock music behind it instead

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of soothing maybe nature sounds.

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I think it would be interesting to see.

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I think his next best idea would be like kill himself.

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No, that's never the answer.

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It would be to just be like, OK, I realize that the political sphere is never going to

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save the world from the globalists.

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I must be a church.

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I don't I don't think that's likely, but it's the best way to make money.

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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For sure.

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It's it would be very similar to like Kid Rock going country.

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Yeah.

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That's a sad cash grab sort of thing.

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So one of our recent episodes was in the present day.

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I can't quite remember.

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But Alex was talking about how God was talking to him.

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But he also said could be God could be my self subconscious.

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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You remember that?

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I do.

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Yeah.

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Which is troubling.

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Very troubling.

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Because if Alex is mixing up God talking to him and his subconscious.

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It's an issue.

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It is an issue.

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This next clip presents an even bigger issue.

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When I'm totally tired, got a headache, exhausted, I will literally go in my office and just

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get down on my knees and say, God, give me energy, give me strength to fight.

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And then and then my subconscious, the devil and everyone to call comes is all looking

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at a bad job.

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Look how obnoxious you are.

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It doesn't matter.

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That's right.

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I'm doing the best job I can.

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You're not.

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But also, Alex can't tell the difference between the devil and his subconscious.

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So now if he has a thought or a feeling or a premonition, a notion, it could either be

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God the devil or his subconscious.

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Right.

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And he doesn't know the difference between any of them.

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Right.

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That's really bad.

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It is.

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It is.

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He.

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Oh, man.

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And this is bananas, but he reminds me so much of Kronk from the Emperor's New Groove

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when he's got the little angel and the demon on either shoulder.

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And he's like, he's just unaffected by either.

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They're both saying nonsense.

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And he's like, yeah, my nonsense, too, whatever.

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And they just move on.

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That's so he's literally talking about having a little angel patting him on the back or

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a demon telling him he's evil, both of which is just a symptom of fucking depression.

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Subconscious.

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Yeah, exactly.

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And he doesn't know the difference between and he has no clue what's going on.

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The difference could be that is it could be God is telling him that he's doing such a

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shitty job and he thinks it's the devil.

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The difference between like Patrick Warburton and a cartoon and Alex is that Alex as a radio

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show and he's a religious fucking zealot and right wing extremist.

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That's an issue.

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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That makes the stakes a little higher as opposed to a simple, simple minded heart of gold clunk

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trunk.

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Yeah.

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So Alex gets to take in some calls on this here episode and this first caller that we're

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going to listen to is interesting because he actually does know that the pictures aren't

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really the suspect and that the New York Post cover was a fuck up.

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OK, how's this going to go?

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I mean, Alex is real fluid, so it's all right.

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I found a news article from the New York magazine claiming that there's going to be pictures

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of the two suspects coming out today.

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But within this news article, it's not claiming that the suspects are the two suspects that

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have gone viral in all these pictures.

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It's going to be two other suspects and these two suspects in the picture that have gone

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viral.

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The guy in the blue jacket is actually a teenage kid who's running on his school's track team

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and the guy in his white hat and black backpack is actually his track coach.

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Just wanted your thoughts on that.

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You know, I've said over and over again, they'll come out with cover stories and they'll put

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forward a distraction away from the original redneck patsies that they were going to roll

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out.

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They're going to have cover stories.

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They're going to try to spin this.

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But my whole point is we put out all the suspicious groups with the backpacks and they've chosen

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to go with this.

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Suspiciously, the one that he didn't have any focus on at all is the people who actually,

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you know, there is footage of them dropping the backpacks at these spots and pretty hard

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to get around evidence that they were the actual perpetrators.

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Weird, weird that Alex had all the pictures and showed all the angles.

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Mysteriously accept the correct one.

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Man, that's just impervious armor.

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It's just impervious armor.

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There's nothing you can do.

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Any evidence that you're wrong is a cover up.

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Part of the cover up.

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It's just added into the churn.

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Because they wanted to fucking pin it on this white redneck guy.

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And Alex says this, man, he's just making all of this up.

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This is based on nothing.

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That's why I said they were going to go with the rednecks, but they went with the Saudis

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whether they're real or not as a divert.

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And then they probably had other backup rednecks in the area too that aren't in the photo,

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but they're scared.

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They're going over all the photos to see if we've got photos of the rednecks next to their

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handlers.

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What?

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And again, I wouldn't want to be those rednecks right now.

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Poor guys.

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You know, they were like, be part of a special program to help America.

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And we want to be part of a drill.

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Just like seven seven with those Arabs, I want to help America.

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Good Billy.

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You're going to help them now.

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Are you ready?

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I mean, it's just so sick.

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All right.

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Thank you.

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God bless you.

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This is all just in his head.

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Like this is one of the things that this episode, particularly in this stretch of time was like

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really laborious to get through because Alex is kind of being affected by the lack of information

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too.

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And he's able to spin the like, you know, the pretending that the New York Post cover

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is the official photos that were released.

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We were right all along.

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Right.

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Someone should throw me a parade.

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Well, that stuff's all good and well, but this is I mean, it's a little stale.

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Like it deteriorates into constant, just like him making stuff up about what must have happened

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and flights of fancy that he has about these guys being chosen as patsies and like it's

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just like he's suffering from the same problem that the mainstream media is because as creative

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as he is, his creativity has kind of hit a wall.

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Oh yeah.

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Oh yeah.

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And that does make this a bit more of a slog to get through.

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Yeah.

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But at the same time, Alex recognizes that like he's getting a lot of traffic off this

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and he knows that like this is the time to strike.

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The iron is hot right now, so he can't do anything but do all this.

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Now some stations don't carry the next hour of overdrive only to go to info wars dot com

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audio streams or info wars dot com forward slash listen and there's a free video feed

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up there.

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We're going to continue this talk.

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Be sure to spread the word about all our M&M affiliates and support their local sponsors

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and become a sponsor.

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And I don't know, John Harmon was saying a whole pastel and his stations are wanting

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to sign up right now.

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A show people are getting what's happening and better look your grand babies and kids

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in the eyes and realize we don't beat these people.

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We're going under Soviet style occupation mixed in with some Hitler.

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Mixed in with a little Hitler.

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Just a dash of Hitler.

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Just a dash of Hitler, a lot of a lot of Soviet propaganda, a little dash of Hitler.

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They're not going to use the chairman.

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You know that Alex embellishes just about everything, but I don't think that this is

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necessarily a complete fiction.

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Like I bet he is getting some new stations wanting to sign up because of the increased

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stature because of this.

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And it helps that it's free.

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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This media blitz that he's kind of becoming a really hot item.

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People on the Internet being interested in his information because it's all bullshit.

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It's this absence, this vacuum of real official information is making people lose their mind.

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And Alex is capitalizing on that and it's really scary.

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So Alex jumps into this overdrive and it takes some calls, some more calls.

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We're going to enter a period here where we get to see just how fucking stupid Alex's

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listeners are.

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I hate to say that.

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I don't like to judge individuals as much as I judge Alex, but some of these people

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are profoundly dumb.

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And I know that part of it is the training that Alex gives them.

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He doesn't expect much out of them.

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He rewards stupid speculation and so that behavior is reinforced.

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And you get to see some of the fruits of that.

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In this first one, this caller suggests that we need vigilante posses to go around and

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arrest cops.

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No, that's not good.

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And my other point, Alex, is that LEOs and all these people aren't the only people with

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power.

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They have actually no power that any of the other constituents don't.

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If you see people breaking the Constitution, if you see people breaking the law, break

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your hands on them.

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Arrest somebody.

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You know what I mean?

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This is what I'm saying to all the people out there.

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Maybe what we need is roving hordes of just good people, arresting people, breaking the

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law.

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Well, I mean, more and more, if a cop is breaking the law, you're supposed to be able to citizen

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arrest him, but they'll shoot you.

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I mean, they're on such a power trip, not all the cops, a lot of cops are waking up

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that the globalists have overplayed their hands, overcooked their shops.

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It's the opposite of half-baked, they've overbaked it.

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You've got to really reach out and go, come on, break the trance.

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And with cops, go treat me with respect.

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Stop doing what you're doing.

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Stop violating my rights.

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And they arrest you for no reason?

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You sue them.

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I think Alex's response to that is probably about as good as you can do on Infowars.

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Yeah, that probably is.

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I mean, yeah, there's cops that are way out of control, obviously.

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Reform is very needed.

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But going and assaulting a cop and putting them under citizen's arrest is absolutely

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the wrong tactical decision.

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It's not going to do anybody any good.

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No.

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I don't think you're going to be able to grab even the most corrupt cop as a citizen, even

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the most corrupt cop, and take them to the police station and have all the other cops

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be like, thanks for doing that for us.

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Thank you.

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We didn't have the courage to do it ourselves.

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I think that, like, even if you have a roving band of good guys, it's going to cause trouble.

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When have we ever had a roving band?

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No band of good guys has ever been roving.

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Roving bands are usually bandits.

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Doesn't seem like there's a lot of historical precedent.

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So we get another caller and this guy just is full of bullshit.

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Number one, I wanted to say to your listeners that I've watched I've listened to you for

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over three years.

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I have read probably 50 books as a result of listening to you.

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I can tell your listeners out there that Infowars is an extremely credible organization and

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the fact that you do things on such an evidence-based way of approaching the news and stuff, I totally

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agree with.

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I'm an attorney.

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So I take that very seriously and I appreciate what you do.

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I don't know if that guy's an attorney.

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He is absolutely not an attorney.

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I have some questions about that.

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But yeah, I've read 50.

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Alex hasn't referenced 50 books.

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I've watched 50 movies.

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He's referenced at least that many.

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Yeah, yeah, probably.

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Yeah, I would buy that.

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This is so evidence-based, your approach to the news, you just prove everything.

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This is sad.

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But that's the perception that Alex puts out and it's internalized by the audience.

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They accept that he says he's read everything, so he has.

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Would Alex lie to you?

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No, he's a hero.

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He's a hero for Americana.

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So this next caller just, I mean, he's just saying bullshit.

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And I was able to record WCVB, it's Boston ABC owned and operated affiliate ABC 5.

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And one of their reporters, I found this very interesting, said that the head of FEMA, which

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is Craig Fugate, was in Boston.

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Oh, no, that's true.

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They were all there.

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They were all there, just like they were all there for 7-7 bombing.

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Yeah, no, that is confirmed, yeah.

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That's confirmed.

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So I'm not entirely sure that the FEMA director, Craig Fugate, was in Boston on April 15th,

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but I can say for certain that deputy administrator of FEMA, Richard Serino, was.

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I base this on a report that Serino wrote called, Lessons Learned from the Boston Marathon

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Bombing.

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I was there.

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Which was released on July 10th, 2013.

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In the introduction to the report, Serino says, quote, I was in Boston on that tragic

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day in April celebrating Patriot's Day in my hometown.

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And I'm here now not just as a FEMA deputy director, administrator, excuse me, but also

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as a Bostonian and former paramedic.

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Patriot's Day is a sizable holiday in Boston.

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He's from Boston.

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So he went home to celebrate.

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That makes sense.

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There's nothing in this report about Fugate also being in Boston when the attack happened.

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I can find literally no indication that the actual director, Craig Fugate, was in Boston

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at the time.

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However, I did find a conspiracy blog saying that the fact that Richard Serino was there

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is proof that the bombing was a FEMA false flag.

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So I have to assume that that's what this caller is just fucking up with the details.

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He's really just talking about Serino being there.

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And again, there's nothing suspicious about him being in Boston.

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There's utter shit these people are talking.

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Everybody knows that FEMA officials do not have any private lives whatsoever.

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They were grown from a lab.

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And so they don't have any hometowns other than, I don't know, wherever sad amphibious

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eyes are these days.

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Right.

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So, you know, there's no way that there could be any rational explanation for a FEMA official

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being anywhere other than the FEMA headquarters where I assume they live in camps.

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You also have to assume that, you know, I found this conspiracy blog about Richard Serino

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being there.

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Yeah.

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And if Fugate was also there, you'd have to assume that that would be a part of the conspiracy

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theory that's on this blog.

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Yeah.

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And it's not.

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Even if they couldn't prove that he was there.

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Yeah.

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Why wouldn't they toss him in there?

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Why not?

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Because you've got somebody who you can prove was there.

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Exactly.

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There you go.

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So here in this next clip, I think that we have what Alex gives as close to a mission

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statement for Infowars and what they're doing right now.

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And it's it's fucked up.

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So people need to get our articles on this out to everybody.

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I mean, this is this is an info war going on right now, folks, over who can control

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this narrative.

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We've caught them with their pants down.

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But if we don't expose that, they won't go down.

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God bless you, good to hear from you.

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It's about controlling the narrative.

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And that's all good and well in your mind when you.

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It's the same thing with Steve when he's talking about I'm going to commit treason, but I think

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it's patriotism.

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Yeah.

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Alex is trying to control the narrative to drive traffic to his Web site and increase

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sales.

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But the narrative he's pushing is bullshit.

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There's nothing behind any of this stuff.

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All the things about the pictures that he's found, there's innocuous explanations for

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just about everything.

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There's nothing suspicious except for what he's imagined.

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He's not pushing a journalistic narrative.

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He's not pushing an investigation narrative.

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He's pushing his fantasies.

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He's pushing his perceptions, his storyline that he's come up with that validates the

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idea that the federal government is evil and out to crush white gun owning patriots.

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That's all he's doing.

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So controlling the narrative for him is evil.

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It's propaganda.

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It's misleading.

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People.

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Yeah.

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I just.

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Is it, man, there's just like, is it just some fucking flaw within our brains that is

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not going to be corrected?

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Like that, like these guys just can spin fiction out of nothing and convince a large enough

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people to be, to be dangerous, to be really hurtful, dangerous, monstrous people.

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I think a lot of it comes down to a very unique talent that Alex has and granted it's not

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unique, but there are not many people who could perform on the level that he does in

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terms of like he makes himself such a clown in order to be that like thing that seduces

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people in with the entertainment value.

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And then they keep watching and his vague references to things that he never explains

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and never actually documents or proves is enough to be like, oh, he's onto something.

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And then as we've seen in the aftermath of the bombing, he's able to use real world events

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and incorporate them really quickly into proving the narratives that he's laying out.

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Like if you were listening to all of this and you were maybe thinks Alex is entertaining

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and you're listening and watching, like a lot of your suspicions might go away, that

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he doesn't know what he's talking about.

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He's interacting with the real world in a way that he's presenting as reinforcing his

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worldview, but it actually doesn't.

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That's part of his talent.

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Other people can't do that.

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Like other people just don't have those skills.

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I mean, I guess contemporaries, maybe not, but I mean, there's always one of these guys.

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Sure.

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Like these guys are like every, I mean, it seems like every generation has their own

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one of these assholes.

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There's different permutations, sure.

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So it's, it's just like, it just continues on this vicious cycle of bullshit being disseminated

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by, to be believed by enough people to turn bullshit into something that is real and tangible

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to these people.

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And we get fucked!

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Yeah, it's tough.

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It's pretty tough.

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And then at the end of the day, people who believe in reality, uh, get fucked over.

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Yeah, it's, it's, it's hard.

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Um, yeah, I don't know what to tell you.

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Right?

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But I do know this.

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It turns out that, you know how you have IQ, your intelligence quotient?

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I don't.

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You know, so people have this, uh, this IQ thing, right?

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I know.

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But do they?

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Did you know that you can actually will your IQ to rise?

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I mean, we have them and lying about the drill, we have these bastards and um, praise God.

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I mean, it shows commitment.

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If you are committed and you study and you focus and you work, these are men too.

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That's why they're so scared of us.

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It's why they put poison in our water to dumb us down.

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Well, once you're conscious of what they've done to us, you just got up more in your brain.

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I mean, if you tell yourself to boost your IQ, it'll boost in a crisis.

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Humanity needs to get out of this slug like, slug like trance and take action.

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So you guys raise your IQ.

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If you want to just just focus, do you feel smarter?

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Yeah.

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Oh, okay.

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Cool.

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It works.

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You can also accept Jesus Christ into your heart.

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That raises your IQ.

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That is also raises your IQ.

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Absolutely.

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Does he know what IQ is or how to measure it?

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No, but I imagine he probably doesn't think much of his audience.

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He probably thinks a lot of them are probably pretty stupid and thinks that they want to

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be smarter.

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So appeal to that idea.

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You can will yourself to be smarter if you commit to this info war.

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See what I'm saying?

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That's some Eckhart Tolle right there.

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That's snake oil shit.

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So one of the things that makes my IQ go up is whenever I find Alex lying about something,

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I raise a point.

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I have given myself little points.

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Have you?

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No.

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You gotta keep track of them on the whiteboard right over there.

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Whatever the case here, my IQ is about to rise by one.

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TJ quote.

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They are on record.

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In fact, tell my writers right now to look this up because I heard it on the news.

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They were searching bags at the start and finish line.

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Why then did they let 20 people or more in with giant black backpacks?

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I mean, this is so incredibly obvious.

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How did the bombs get in when everybody was being searched?

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Again, inside job, anybody, anybody.

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Alex is completely lying about bags being checked according to the 130 page after action

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report of the Boston Marathon bombing produced in partnership by all manner of Massachusetts

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law enforcement and public health organizations.

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Bags were not being checked from page 79 of that report in a section titled, quote, areas

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needing improvement.

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They discussed security limitations, quote, the areas surrounding the finish line in Boston

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and the starting line in Hopkinton, which are deemed to be higher risk than other public

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viewing areas, are screened for the presence of contaminants and devices several times

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during the day and are patrolled by law enforcement personnel.

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However, these areas are open to the public, are heavily populated, and no screening of

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persons or baggage is conducted.

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The report itself wrestles with how security protocols could be put in place that wouldn't

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completely destroy the marathon.

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Quote, because the Boston Marathon is a large public family event, there needs to be an

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appropriate balance between security protocols and the feel of the event.

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Ultimately, it gives some suggestions like prohibiting bags in certain places or increased

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police presence, but it stresses a second time, quote, these protocols should not be

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so intrusive as to change the feeling of the event.

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Alex is just making up the idea that all bags were screened in order to reinforce his conspiracy,

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that if someone had a bomb in a backpack there, the cops would have to know and have to have

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let them in with it.

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This is absolutely not true.

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He is lying to, as he has put it, control the narrative.

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That's all this is.

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Dan, how long is a marathon?

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26 something miles, 26.2 miles.

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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So can you check every bag along?

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And even then, even if you're talking about targeted near the finish line, you can walk.

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That's such a bug.

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And it's just like the TSA where it's like, here's, and even their report at least admits

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that there needs to be a balance between those instead of a giant dumb overreaction that

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turns into a fucking theater in order to make sure all of us feel like we're being watched,

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even though it doesn't actually do anything.

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Yeah.

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Ah, so people are stupid.

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Yeah.

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So in this next clip, I think Alex is recognizing that he's gotten about as far as he can go

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with the information that he has available to him.

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Like all of the conspiracies he's spun so far, the staring at random photos from 4chan.

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He's gotten about as much mileage as he can.

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So what he needs the audience to do is go find local footage from the day and come up

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with things for him to talk about.

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Great.

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Everyone needs to go to the two different TV feeds that are online of that day and watch

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them with a note and pad, and then call into shows, email the link, or if you have the

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capability, grab it, put it on YouTube.

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And listen, we're going to destroy them.

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They're smoking guns.

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There's probably the army handing the guys the bomb.

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Probably.

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I mean, there's probably video of the guys detonating it.

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We've got them.

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We already know they did a false flag and they just think you're too lazy and too stupid

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to do it.

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So defeat the enemy.

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Defeat the enemy.

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Defeat the enemy by going and finding maybe bad reporting in the immediate aftermath,

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like people reporting things capriciously, that then I can turn into conspiracies to

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prove my points.

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That's all he's doing.

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That's literally all he's doing.

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Guys, go edit more TV cartoons together to make me look right all the time.

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Please.

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Fucked up.

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Fucked up.

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That's just not okay, right?

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No.

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That's just not okay.

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That's like Barnes allowing people to vote on what cases he takes, where you're like,

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there's just something very wrong with that.

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I mean, the harsher reality behind that is that Barnes isn't doing that.

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It's an appearance of control he's trying to get people to subscribe to his law center

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for.

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It's probably not legal.

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It might not be.

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I'm not sure.

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It's at least unethical, as is what Alex does next.

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And that is he turns over the show to Jakari Jackson and David Knight, who host for a while.

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And Alex, you know, he knows that the press conference that the FBI is holding is coming

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up.

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And so he teases that a little bit.

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All right, ladies and gentlemen, we're going to come back with Jakari Jackson and David

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Knight and your phone calls and some other breaking news and then more phone calls.

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And then the press conference with Obama in an hour and a half for the FBI with their

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new patsy on the mark.

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They got their new patsy.

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They got their new patsy.

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He's already like done moving on, done the work, and he is preemptively discredited whatever

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they come out with at that FBI conference.

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That's so funny.

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He doesn't even that he doesn't even need to talk about whether or not his patsies were

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the right ones or anything like that.

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Doesn't matter.

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They're their new patsies.

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Yeah, absolutely.

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That's it.

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And normally, you know, what I would do is David Knight, Jakari Jackson are taken over

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click.

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Right.

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But that press conference is coming up while the show is still going to be going.

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Yeah.

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And I know because I live in twenty nineteen that that press conference is a crucially

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important piece of this.

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And I needed to see what the immediate reaction would be on Info Wars of the suspect photos

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being released.

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Sure.

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And so I decided to keep listening while David Knight and Jakari Jackson host.

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And something that's very interesting is that Alex doesn't really leave the studio.

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Now, that's kind of what I suspected was going to happen.

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I honestly think that he might be drinking like it might be a twenty thirteen drunk out

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because he cannot stop barging into the studio and interrupting them while they're trying

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to do their show.

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Like here, he's just that Jakari is trying to talk about Janet Napolitano and Alex is

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just yelling in the studio.

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Look how arrogant she is.

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They're scared, man.

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It's a confidence game.

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Hey, listen, you witch pig.

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We know what you did.

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Excuse me.

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I apologize about you on here.

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That's OK.

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Got any hearing?

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Got any hearing left?

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I love how we just leave these vitamins over here, like when we're doing the shot, there's

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like this big pile of vitamins.

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I'm getting out of here.

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I'm getting out of here.

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No, you're not.

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Oh, he's drunk.

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He's not getting out of there either.

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I love how he keeps coming back.

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I love how we leave these piles of vitamins around.

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Is that trying to buzz market young Japanese, Alex?

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Man.

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Hmm.

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So they, because they're not great at this point, David Knight and Jakari Jackson are

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not super.

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I mean, David Knight's never good and left before he ever got too much exposure on the

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actual Alex show.

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He's mostly on the nightly news, but they're not good.

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So they take a lot of calls.

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And one thing I will say to their credit, they move along with the callers, whereas

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Alex will just like take a caller, the caller will say something for like two minutes, then

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Alex will rant for 10 and be like, sorry, no time, no time.

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They at least are like, all right, make your point.

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We'll say something.

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And then next caller.

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Okay.

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Like it's actually how a call in show is supposed to go.

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Right.

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Right.

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Right.

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Right.

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Unfortunately, according to your twisted vision, unfortunately, they're still info

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Wars callers.

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So they're still very stupid.

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Sure.

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Also, I wanted to let everybody know that, you know, you got to understand that, uh,

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Alex Jones doesn't just pull all this stuff from his rear end.

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I mean, he gives you the tools.

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He gives you all the evidence you need.

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Um, a lot of these other places, a lot of these other media sources, they don't do that.

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They don't give you the sources.

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So before you start arguing that, you know, Alex is a shill.

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He's a, you know, this and that he, he's a misinformation agent.

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He provides every, Mary, you just need to look into it.

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And I just want to say, I appreciate and love you guys.

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So stupid.

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Love you guys.

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So stupid.

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Even in 2013, every fucking word was hyperlinked to a source.

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Yeah.

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You know, every, if you go to, if you read any article on Guardian, 50 words are hyperlinked

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to the source that proves the reason that there are a lot every fucking one.

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Yeah.

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So like that guy's just stupid.

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He thinks Alex proves everything that he says.

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Bullshit.

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Absolutely not true.

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But this next caller is stupid in a way that I actually find repulsive.

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I was calling about the guy you have a picture of that's carrying the radiation detector.

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Yes, sir.

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Yeah.

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He went on Wolf Blitzer and his name is Dr. David King.

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If you go to, uh, let's see here, the situation room for yesterday, about 6 35 Eastern time,

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he was on there with him and, uh, he claims that he left the race before the explosion

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situation repeat, repeat how we can find that again.

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Situation room with Wolf Blitzer and type in Dr. David King.

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So as always, Alex's callers are a showcase of stupidity.

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Alex has trained his audience to trust their guts and just make connections between any

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two thing they might, two things they might think are related.

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So when they call in, that's all they have to operate on.

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It's tremendously dangerous.

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Since Alex doesn't really have a high standard for what information he'll just repeat that

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you've seen these things snowball on our show before.

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In this case, this caller is completely wrong.

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Dr. David King was a person who was on Wolf Blitzer, but he's not the person in Alex's

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photo holding a radiation meter who was a member of the civil support team, which Alex

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has no idea about, nor does anybody else who has any interaction with info wars.

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The story this caller is trying to pitch is a disgrace to Dr. King and he should be a

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shame of himself for saying something like this on a nationally syndicated show with

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literally no evidence.

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King's wife was an avid runner and she had previously run in the Boston Marathon.

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One year he went along to watch at the finish line and he saw the looks of accomplishment

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and glee in people's faces as they crossed the line and he just loved it.

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To quote King, quote, they looked like they belonged on a Wheaties box, every last one

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of them.

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So he decided to do it himself and chase that feeling.

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In 2013, he ran the marathon and finished about an hour before the bombs went off.

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He lingered a while to watch other runners complete their race and see the excitement

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and exuberance in their face and then he left.

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On his way home, news broke about the bombs and he immediately headed for Massachusetts

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General Hospital.

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He did that because he's a trauma surgeon.

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This man had just finished running a marathon and he selflessly went immediately to try

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and help victims of the attack.

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I don't know everything about Dr. David King, but his actions in the aftermath of the Boston

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bombing are the sorts of things you can easily describe as acts of every man heroism.

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When he could have easily just rationalized going home to shower or saying, I literally

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just ran a marathon.

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Sure.

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Or just say like there's other doctors, someone else will help.

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He could have done that.

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He didn't.

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He jumped right in and saved people's lives.

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This caller has randomly decided that he's the person in one of Alex's pictures because

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of a slight physical similarity and he's trying to turn King's story of heading right back

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in order to mass general into a lie because the photos proved that he was there at the

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scene of the bombs.

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Fuck this caller and fuck him again for choosing to spout this shit on the only news outlet

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likely just to repeat the claim without looking into it.

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Without even knowing what they're doing, they're trying to turn a hero into a villain, trying

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to rob a person of their noble act, all in the name of making their conspiracy sound

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more plausible.

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This is detestable behavior and I cannot stress that enough.

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All of these people should be deeply ashamed of themselves.

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This caller should still feel bad about this to this day and yet they never will be.

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They don't even give a fuck.

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But that's a feature for them.

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That's a feature.

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The feature for them is always turning the people who exercise empathy, initiative, and

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heroism into villains because what they are is people who won't and don't.

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You know, like the way they treated when you went through the story of Soros' dad and

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all of his acts of heroism and then you see what they're doing to him and you're like,

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that's part of the goal.

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If people are heroes, then you want to follow those guys.

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Well it's that dynamic or they turn heroes into props if it suits the narrative that

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they want to push.

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They have to control the narrative and a hero is bad for that.

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Control that narrative, baby!

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Heroes are bad for the narrative.

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So I just really fucking hate stuff like that.

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It drives me up a wall.

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Like David King did exactly what you would applaud someone doing.

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You would give somebody a fucking award for doing that shit.

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And here he's being painted as a conspirator in a plot to bomb civilians.

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So anyway, another stupid caller calls in.

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My cousin just called me less than an hour ago.

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There has been a bomb threat at Cal State Los Angeles.

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Cal State Los Angeles.

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Can we get on that, guys, please?

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They are evacuating the school.

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They've never done this in my four years there.

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It's never been this big.

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My cousin called me to tell me that they're closing down the school because of a bomb

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threat.

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You know what?

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I want to take that back.

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That's not totally fair.

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This caller isn't as stupid as all the others because that is a real thing.

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There was a bomb threat at Cal State on April 18th.

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But don't call into in fours about this.

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This has nothing to do with the Boston bombing.

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It was almost certainly the result of a prank call phoning in a fake bomb threat.

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It's just something that campus administrations can't ignore, especially the days after the

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Boston bombing.

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You know what, Jordan?

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Something people probably don't want to think about is that there are a fuck ton of people

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who call in bomb threats to schools.

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All the time.

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In 2016, the Educators School Safety Network did a study on the phenomenon.

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It's really scary to think about.

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Obviously, almost all of them are fake threats, but it's still such a horrible sort of prank

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for a person to pull.

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And to imagine that so many people choose to do it makes me feel real bad about humanity.

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They found that in the 2015-2016 school year, there were twelve hundred and sixty seven

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bomb threats made to U.S. schools.

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There were two hundred and six in January 2016 alone, which comes out to about 10 per

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school day.

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That's a reality that school administrators around the country just have to live with

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and deal with.

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We end up hearing about almost none of these.

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And if we do, it's a passing news story filling a slot in local news programing.

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This case in Cal State is only something that makes headlines because it happened after

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the Boston bombing and people were eating up any kind of bomb related news, wondering

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if there's a connection.

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Had the suspect made it all the way across the country?

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Were there copycats out there?

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My heart goes out to the students at Cal State that had to go through this scare.

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That obviously is not something you want to have to experience.

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But this story being introduced into Alex's show can only do harm.

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There's no reason for this to be brought up.

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I just can't get over it.

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This has never happened in all four years I've been here.

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Right, dude.

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It's still slightly relevant.

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I get that.

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But all four years of my...

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The reason I also feel a little bit bad about calling him stupid, he's a college kid who,

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his experience in the real world isn't as robust as...

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Right.

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No, no, no.

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His brain hasn't finished developing.

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I understand that.

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And I understand that the outsized importance four years to a college kid means that it's

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compared to somebody who is our age.

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Basically his whole adult life.

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Yeah, yeah, yeah.

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Pretty much.

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And by the way, man, if you are in college and you have been there for four years, you

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should at least have learned by now that four years is not that big of a measure of time.

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You would hope.

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Yeah.

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And also he is still stupid because he decided to call into info.

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That's how it works.

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Strike two.

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I tentatively am still calling him stupid.

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Here's another dumb fuck caller.

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All right.

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Yes, sir.

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I just have one question about Boston.

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Sure.

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If we had all these policemen there, hundreds of them, the soldiers there, how many of them

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were hit by shrapnel when these things went off?

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I do not know the answer to that question.

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Or were they warned to get out of the way?

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I don't know because we've heard the reports of, well, Rob Dewitt's given the story about

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his brother-in-law was in the army.

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I believe he's a jogger in the army and he was pulled out of the race, his brother-in-law

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before the bombs went off.

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So as far as I know, I'm not saying there haven't been, but I've not heard any stories

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of police or military being hit by the shrapnel.

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Have you, David?

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I know that he's asking that question to David Knight, but I figure I might be better equipped

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to field it.

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So I'm gonna take this one.

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Go for it.

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Generally speaking, it's the practice of journalists not to name all of the people who are injured

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in a situation like this to protect their privacy.

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A number of folks made the choice to be identified and that's their decision and it's no different

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for a police officer.

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I would assume that they would have the choice to discuss their injury if they want to, but

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I'd also assume they might be less likely to since it could possibly feel like an attempt

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to make the story about themselves and maybe police officers would be more likely to not

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want that kind of attention.

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I don't know.

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It's very difficult to trace down the identities of all the people who were injured in the

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bombing.

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I think that's a good thing.

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Leave these people the fuck alone.

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They've been through enough.

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All that being said, I can still tell this twangmouth caller that he's a fucking idiot.

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A USA Today story from April 15th, the day of the bombing, literally says, quote, bloodied

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spectators were carried to a medical tent for runners.

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At least one police officer was hurt.

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So there we go.

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We got an injured cop, buddy.

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Yeah, but the globalists always have to injure one cop so it throws you off the scent.

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Right.

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Now what?

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Does showing that one cop was hurt in the bombing somehow make your paranoid delusions

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that the globalists pulled all their agents out so they wouldn't get hurt go away?

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Of course it doesn't.

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These aren't sincere questions.

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They're conspiracy bullshit pretending to be curiosity.

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This asshole doesn't want to know if any cops got injured.

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He wants to inject the idea that none were to reinforce the idea that there was foreknowledge

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and this is a false flag.

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That's why Jharkari immediately starts talking about Rob Do's brother, because that's the

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info wars talking point that matches up with this conspiracy bullet point.

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Meanwhile, at least one cop did get hurt.

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It was reported three days prior to them being on air here.

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So they have every reason to know that.

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And they still haven't even proved shit about Rob Do's brother.

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He might have actually been dehydrated, for all we know.

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This all amounts to nothing.

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But get this, even if Jharkari or David knew that this USA Today article exists that says

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one cop was injured, it's in their best interest to not know that.

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Oh yeah.

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Don't ask questions you don't want to actually know the answer to.

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Right.

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It actually is advantageous as an info wars reporter to not know a lot.

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Do not learn anything.

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Because if you do, if you have read this article, this twang-mouthed idiot calls in and he's

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like, do we know if any cops got hurt?

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And you're like, yeah, actually it was reported right after the bombing that there was a cop

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who was injured.

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Where do you go then?

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It's a dead end.

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It's a propaganda dead end.

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So you intentionally stay blissfully naive of any real information and it allows you

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to lie.

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Right.

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Being a journalist is disqualifying to try and get a job as a journalist at info wars.

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I suppose maybe like a, I don't know, short fiction writer would be better suited for

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it.

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Sure.

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I think that'd be great.

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I mean, Chikari wrote that comic book after he left for worse.

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Yeah, yeah, yeah.

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Get a nice little, get a nice little New Yorker byline.

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I don't think they can.

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I think so.

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So at this point, Alex barges in to the studio again because he wants to laugh about how

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the press conference is coming up.

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Of course.

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We will provide you with accurate information as it becomes available.

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I look forward to that.

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Thank you.

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I yield back.

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And there it is.

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He saw Ms. Napolitano right there.

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We will provide you, sir.

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Don't get your sources anywhere else.

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We will provide you with said information.

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The press conference is coming up in 20 minutes, that's all I can say.

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Alex seems very excited about this press conference and we will be giving you a live coverage

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on that.

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I do think he's probably drunk.

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Oh yeah.

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So we get back to stupid callers now.

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Jesus.

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Here's another stupid ass caller.

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Just a quick question.

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I don't know if you guys happen to look at YouTube about Charlie Chaplin.

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Appreciate it.

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I'm sorry.

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I can't hear you.

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Can you get a little closer to your phone?

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Oh yeah.

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Charlie Chaplin.

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I don't know if you guys watched his video on YouTube, a message to humanity.

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Are you talking about the original Charlie Chaplin or is this somebody new?

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Yeah.

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I'm not really too sure if it's somebody new or somebody original, but there's a video

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on YouTube, a message to humanity and it's a pretty good video.

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I don't know if you guys have a competitor, maybe someone else has.

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No, I haven't seen.

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What's the video about?

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It's just talking about how he doesn't want to be a dictator and he wants people to wake

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up from all the corruptions going on in the world.

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Stop it.

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That's about a three minute, 30 second clip.

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Okay.

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Well, that's insane.

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Is he literally pulling a quote, a little clip from Charlie Chaplin's The Dictator?

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The Great Dictator.

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Yeah.

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Jesus Christ.

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Someone else did and put some music behind it.

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Oh my God.

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But this caller is informing David and Chikari about a hot video on YouTube, which you've

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already deduced is just a little clip from Charlie Chaplin's Great Dictator.

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That fucking movie came out in 1940 and it also was nominated for four Oscars that year.

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It was huge.

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It's a good movie.

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That video gets passed around a lot and there's no reason for, let's say, David and Chikari

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not to be able to figure it out when he says it's about how he doesn't want to be a dictator.

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Yeah, yeah, yeah.

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It's like, oh, that's from The Great Dictator.

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But look, dude, a lot of people forget, they tend to forget that that clip comes from a

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full length movie and that the speech being given, the character is a Jewish man pretending

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to be a character who's clearly Hitler.

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It's not Hitler.

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It's not subtle.

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Right.

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It is not subtle.

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And that clip doesn't take into account that that's not actually the character of Hitler.

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Right, right, right.

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It's a guy pretending...

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Right.

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Anyway, that movie is one of the most enduring pieces of comedic satire of fascism and authoritarian

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rulers released in the fucking middle of World War II.

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And it's pretty amazing that neither Chikari or David really seem to register what the

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caller's talking about.

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It's also pretty amazing that this caller doesn't know who Chaplin is and seems unclear

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about whether or not he was watching something that might be new.

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These callers are so fucking stupid.

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I know, I know, I mean, I don't, I don't want to be, I'm not going to be too much of a dick

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to this kid for not knowing about the dictator.

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I get that.

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But that's like, that's like dragging on people on Twitter who are like, oh man, it's cool

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that this Paul McCartney guy is going to be famous now because of Kanye or something like

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that.

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I still think it's okay to make fun of that.

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I get it.

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I agree.

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It's okay to make fun of it.

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But it's like, that's fucking stupid.

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You're just, you just learn more, you know?

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You know what?

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You're mocking though, and when you do that, you're mocking a lack of interest.

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This person is calling into Info Wars to talk about this hot new Charlie Chaplin video,

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which he saw on the internet.

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Yes.

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Finding out who Charlie Chaplin is, is one click away.

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He really is.

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And he didn't do that.

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Instead, he saw the video and was like, hey, y'all heard of Charlie Chaplin?

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To call Info Wars about it.

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Jesus.

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That is worth mocking.

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That is bad.

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That impulse is worth mocking.

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I know.

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I want to be, I want to be kinder to, cause I, I don't mind.

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I'm running thin on patience.

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Yeah.

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But also, when I sit back and think about it, I can kind of understand how, like, Jigari

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and David, who are people who work for a fascist leaning propaganda outlet, probably wouldn't

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be too into exploring the world of fascism satire.

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Yeah, no, that could get them in a good mood.

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So it makes sense that they might not know about the Great Dementor.

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I could get them in real trouble.

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David Knight would rather watch Song of the South again than go back to the classics.

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Oh, those were the good old days.

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So now, another stupid caller.

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How you doing?

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Doing very well.

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Oh, no.

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Good.

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I was calling in to make sure people were informed of the Act of 1871, which turned

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the United States into a corporation.

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Two constitutions now are in place, the organic constitution and the corporate constitution.

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Which has a heart.

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Which doesn't.

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You said the Act of 1871?

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Yes, sir.

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Okay, go ahead.

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There was only one act that year.

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Uh-huh.

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It was a single act play that year.

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I've been saying that these callers are stupid.

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This one exceeds even my expectations.

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Go to fucking town on that one, Dan.

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I really don't have time to get into the ins and outs of this theory, but basically it's

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sovereign citizenship.

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Tracing back to capitalized letters, that sort of bullshit.

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I honestly don't even care about this.

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Like if you look into it at all, you just end up on dumb fuck blogs and message boards

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with people talking about how sneaky the Rothschilds are.

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So just come on.

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The Act of 1871 just created the District of Columbia.

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They didn't create a new constitution for the US.

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In fact, the District of Columbia was created the way it was specifically because of Article

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1, Section 8 of the Constitution.

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And by that I mean the real constitution, not the corporate one those sneaky Jews forced

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on us.

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Which is what this theory is all about.

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Yeah, I know.

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It sucks and it makes so much sense that sovereign citizens are both the dumbest and most violent.

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Like those two have to...

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It's unfortunate.

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Yeah, those two are like that Venn diagram of like, oh, that's the dead center.

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So we get to the press conference and it's pretty short, but it was designed to be pretty

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short.

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It was just announcing these images and they were going to take a few questions.

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It was not meant to be a half hour affair or anything.

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And so here is the immediate response from David and Chikari Jackson right after the

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press conference ends.

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So you heard the FBI agents say, these are the only images that you need to focus on

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these two guys out of everybody in the crowd.

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And don't get me wrong, I'm sure the FBI is competent and definitely looking into the

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situation.

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But as Dan pointed out, we have other images on Infowars.com, there are images on other

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sites that may not be on Infowars.com of other people that may be included in the bombing.

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When he said Dan pointed out, he's not talking about me.

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No, he's not.

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He's talking about Dan Padandi.

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Yeah.

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He's talking to that press conference.

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I could already tell how it was going to land from like a spin perspective.

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Richard Delorius of the Boston FBI, whose name I'm pretty sure I'm still mispronouncing,

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but maybe less so than what I thought it was, Deslorious.

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Oh, that's not good.

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Anyway, he takes the podium and explains that they've conducted a very intense investigation

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and are confident that they have pictures of the correct suspects.

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This assessment is based on photographic evidence of one suspect placing his backpack at the

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precise location of the site of the second explosion and other footage of the two suspects

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walking together.

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And you know, obviously they wouldn't have released pictures sooner because that would

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have if they didn't know pretty certainly that they were the right people.

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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Get people killed.

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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In his prepared remarks, he asks for the public's help in identifying the two people in these

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pictures, but also says that other pictures people are circulating are not relevant and

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focusing on them doesn't help them get to the bottom of the case.

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I strongly suspect that his comment was not so much addressed that the dumdums on the

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Internet and Infowars as much as it was a polite fuck you to the New York Post for their

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cover image with two incorrect suspects.

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Yeah, very much so.

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But I knew as soon as it came out of his mouth that the spin was going to be that the man

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doesn't want you looking at these forbidden images that tell you the true story.

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And I almost gasped when Dan Badandi yelled about Infowars having other pictures in the

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background at that press conference.

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He was there yelling at the FBI press conference.

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I should have realized, you know, I really should have been there.

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Yeah, of course.

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That's where he that's the only place he could be in that.

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I had forgotten that he was in Boston.

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Of course.

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Yeah.

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I'm completely immersed in this stuff.

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And yet even for me, it was shocking to hear him there interacting with and interfering

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with the really important real world moment.

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You know, it's one thing for Alex to manipulate and lie to everyone about highly emotional

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and sensitive things.

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But I was thinking about this moment and what Dan Badandi is doing as an official Infowars

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employee could be described as trying to disrupt a federal investigation.

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It was an impotent effort.

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It's not like there's really anything that he could do with this.

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But his intention is to be a public nuisance.

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And he's hoping to derail the FBI's investigation into these two suspects.

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He could pretend like he's doing it because he knows the real truth about the case.

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But the intention is the same.

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His efforts are explicitly directed at creating publicity stunts to get attention off the

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real suspects.

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And that's fucked up.

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I don't know if that's a crime, but it feels like it borders on obstruction.

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It's I don't even know how much it borders.

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It's hard to say.

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I mean, yeah.

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Fucked up.

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Yeah.

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And you look at it.

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I suppose the only thing they would have to know that they weren't the real suspects,

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which they do.

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So I think it is obstruction of justice.

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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I don't.

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I don't.

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I don't know.

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It just when you look at it through that prism, these actions seem a lot worse.

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Yeah.

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So Alex now barges into the studio and yells about how they're they're desperate in their

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cover up.

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I imagine he tears his shirt open and he's fucking.

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Might as well love.

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All right.

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Now, what's good?

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I just got to say, I'm gonna cover this on the nightly news.

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This is a desperate cover up.

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You're just putting rabbit trails out left and right.

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We've got the people.

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We've got the patsy, the redneck they were going to burn, that they pulled the military

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up to grab out of the courthouse.

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We've got them with the Saudis, everything.

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They are shut down, man.

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They are in disarray right now.

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So the good news is they're not blaming us right now for this.

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That is the good news.

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And again, they want to like just keep throwing distractions out and say, please don't look

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at any other photos that are out there, i.e., fallwars.com.

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Janet Napolitano is in Congress.

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Do not look at Drudge, who's carrying our stuff.

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We are engaging the globe, and let's hit point Mike Range right now.

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Yep.

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Thank you, Alex.

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All right.

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So, Alex, you're doing the show tonight, correct?

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Uh, yeah.

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Yeah.

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Okay.

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All right.

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There you go.

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Alex Jones, 7 p.m. Central, Info Wars, nightly news.

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Alex Renegg is on that booking a little bit later.

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It says, Jokari, you're hosting tonight.

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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That's a lot of work.

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So anyway, Alex leaves, and then about like a minute, two minutes, a little bit later,

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he barges back in.

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Just watched the senator questioning-

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Napolitano.

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Napolitano.

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Yeah.

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Hey, guys, keep going.

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Get Badandi on his car.

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Badandi.

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Okay.

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All right.

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They have guys in front of him, guys on him.

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Okay.

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Adam, just-

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Hang on.

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We gotta get Dan and Badandi.

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Yeah.

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Stay right there, Adam.

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Tell us when you have Dan on the line.

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So we have Dan Badandi.

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He was at the press conference.

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If you didn't see him, you definitely heard him.

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By the way, the viewers, we're overwhelmed.

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We can't upload all this to YouTube.

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Listeners, you clip all this out.

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Put the juicy clips on YouTube.

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We'll put them on infowars.com.

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With everybody's help, this is War Room, baby.

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Yep.

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Infowars is shutting their ass down.

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Yeah, I was jealous.

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It was very-

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All right.

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Here's Dan Badandi.

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All right.

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Dan, Dan-

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Oh, this is a mess.

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Wow.

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Yeah.

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This is a mess.

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That is-

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Hey, guys, I can't be bothered to cut clips.

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Man.

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I don't-

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Don't you have a staff?

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What's going on?

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Wow.

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I need all of you to do my work for me, and then I'll repost it.

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That's just crazy.

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So they get to talking to Dan Badandi, and his big thing is that he was mobbed at the

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press conference.

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Basically.

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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Okay, Dan.

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So you start asking your questions.

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Now, were you surrounded?

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Were you mobbed by the FBI guys?

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Oh, yeah.

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They come right up to me like a bunch of DeStoppels.

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I tell them, I'm not afraid of you criminals.

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So about how many-

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They think they could use a skill task that begins with this thing.

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Yeah, Dan.

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About how many people do you think there were that surrounded you?

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I just had everybody up to the front.

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I mean, you should be able to see it on the news.

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I was just too excited at the time, and Dan just said, it's crazy over here.

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I mean, he's a cop spirit over here.

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I got two guys that are running video cameras the whole time.

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Hopefully I can make it safely out of Boston.

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Hopefully I can make it safely out of Boston.

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Yeah.

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He's reporting like he's in a fucking war zone and not just at a very calm press conference.

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The only intensity of it really was the gravity of the situation and himself.

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Yeah, yeah, yeah.

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Those are the only things.

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Obviously, I don't think that anyone cares about his bullshit.

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Like, we have these other pictures at Infowars.com.

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That's what he was yelling during his question.

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I don't think they care.

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I don't think the FBI gives a shit if people are looking at these pictures and speculating about them online.

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They care about the tip line.

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They care about the actual investigation that they're carrying out,

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and they know that if people are trying to give them tips about the CST guys,

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it's a waste of fucking time, and they're not interested in that.

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That's a distraction.

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But if you know who these two suspects are, we need your help with that.

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We haven't identified them.

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So I think that they're easily taking that and misrepresenting it as the media and the FBI and the DHS

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don't want you looking at our shit, whereas they don't care.

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Leave them alone about that shit.

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They don't care.

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It is one of those situations where those press conferences and all the fucking...

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We've talked about the names for shit that the UN has and all that stuff.

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They need a consultant to be like,

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oh, here's the language that if you use this, they're going to twist it against you.

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Here's what you want to say.

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Don't focus on the other photographs.

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I understand why you would want to put it that way, because I hear words and they make sense to me.

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But what you need to say is, we would like tips on these people.

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Don't use the negative reinforcement whatsoever.

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Otherwise they'll be like...

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Or say, have fun with your piddly bullshit.

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Yeah, exactly. Yes, exactly.

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Be dismissive and insulting to...

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Enjoy. We would love that, but just don't call us.

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Why don't you go read articles from days ago explaining who those dudes are

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that you're so suspicious of Navy SEALs and shit.

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Hey, you're the one always arguing that they need to have a certain level of professionalism

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and I need a separate yellow...

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No, no, no. I understand that.

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I'm not seriously suggesting this.

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I'm talking about maybe what would be fun to see in a movie

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as opposed to what would function in the real world.

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Because I would rather this FBI guy just give him the DX suck it.

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Hey, why don't you go fuck yourself, asshole?

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But obviously that isn't sustainable in the real world.

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Probably not.

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So Badandi here now gets into talking about how he destroyed that press conference with truth.

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And then Alex suggests a dangerous plan of action.

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Oh, absolutely. I showed them the photographs and they noticed, right?

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When I presented the photographs, notice how the clown in the back of me

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put up this clipboard to block my photographs from the cameras.

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Really?

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And they didn't want these photos to be shown.

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They shut the entire press conference down

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because I revealed, I exposed the truth of what's going on.

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Okay, Dan, can you think of anybody in particular?

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Did you notice any particular affiliate or anybody you talked to?

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Devastating victory. Devastating.

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Everybody should join him at the next press conference.

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All real media, converge on Boston.

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Defeat the terrorists.

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All right, Alex.

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He's trying to get people to go to Boston to disrupt and harass people.

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Yep.

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This is exactly the same sort of behavior he's being sued about for Sandy Hook stuff.

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And you see it's very clearly in his repertoire of actions.

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Yeah.

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Everyone, all quote-unquote real media, needs to converge on Boston and defeat the terrorists.

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Yeah.

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God damn.

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Cut to that backfiring and people taking him literally and Dan Badandi getting wrecked.

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And Alex having to pretend that Dan Badandi never worked for him.

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Oh, no, no, no.

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Alex is celebrating him like a returning hero on this episode.

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I'm so glad I hired you.

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Yeah.

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So Alex gets into that white patsy.

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Obviously they're not going with him.

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He's probably already dead.

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They don't want the white redneck patsies.

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They probably already executed out there.

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He does seem drunk.

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They don't want the Navy SEALs.

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They are scared.

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I'm telling you, folks, you get these articles out that are at Infowars.com.

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This is coffin nails to the tyranny.

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Go ahead, Dan.

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If you notice on the TV, Alex, when I was doing this,

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folks on these criminal stages, they jumped off that stage like,

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oh, my God, we just got exposed to the world.

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They didn't.

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And they're trying to present this idea that they're so scared of him coming in with this.

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I think they're disgusted.

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I think it's more like yelling stupid shit.

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He's being super disruptive.

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I don't know how you react to that in a professional manner other than exactly what people did.

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They're asking, he's yelling, is this a false flag?

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Any answer? No. Next question.

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You just try and accommodate as best as you can,

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but also feel sickened that someone is acting like this.

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Because everybody who's engaged with the real world understands that there's a tragedy,

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and there's people on the loose that these people are working really hard to try and find.

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Now you have someone just making a show out of it.

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It's disgusting.

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It's counter to the interests of the community, quite frankly.

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God damn it. That's such a good distillation of our president.

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So they try and go back to Dan Badandi.

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They finish talking to him, and then they realize that he's still on the line.

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And so they try to go back to him.

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And here is where we get a cameo, a very unexpected cameo, from someone.

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Richard Belzer?

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Okay, I'm sorry. Rob, hang right there. We have Dan Badandi back.

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Dan, go ahead.

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Hello, Dan. Can you hear me? I can't hear him.

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Hey, Dan, are you there? Yeah.

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He's talking to Alex's wife, not Dan Badandi.

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They're on the wrong line.

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I'm sorry, this is Dan's wife?

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Oh. Oh, okay.

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Does he want to talk to us?

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That was Kelly, Alex's ex-wife now.

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And they are months away from a divorce, and you can kind of hear it in her voice.

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She does not seem happy at all.

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I do not know what's going on there in that dynamic, but that was fucked up.

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How... so...

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Probably telling Alex to calm down his bullshit.

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Yeah, that suggests that they were on the other line.

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Yes.

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So they accidentally clicked over to the wrong line.

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So she was talking to Alex on the work phone.

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Yes.

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And they clicked over to her.

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Yeah, that's the only way that that could have happened.

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Yeah, she called into Info Wars to probably be...

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I don't know what, but she does not sound happy there.

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No.

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That's the only time I think I've ever heard her on the show

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is popping in accidentally there.

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This is Alex's wife. You're on the wrong line.

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It doesn't even sound that like...

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What you're sounding... that's annoyed.

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Yeah.

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She seems mad.

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Yeah, well, that's possible.

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There's a tone of...

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I don't want to talk to you.

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There is a tone of a bit like,

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this means Alex put me on fucking hold, doesn't it?

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Yeah, must be.

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Doesn't seem good.

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Nope.

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So they continued encouraging people to go to Boston.

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And at this point, Alex gets very celebratory

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about a particular thing.

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Go to Boston right now if you're listening.

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Yes.

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Get out of your basement, get away from your computer

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and go to Boston and start getting in the face of people

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and starting to ask people questions.

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By the way, Info Wars is getting double the traffic

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it's ever gotten.

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We broke the record a few days ago.

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Now it's double that.

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Right now, smoke is coming out of it.

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The server is in fire.

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And Watson just went up with a deal of FBI ignores men with backpacks.

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But that's not even the issue.

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There's a great headline by Watson working around the clock.

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It's like midnight where he's at.

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Yeah.

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It's even worse than that.

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This is the FBI saying never mind all the real suspects

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because it's their people.

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We have them.

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No, you don't.

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Those are civil support team members

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that are very easily explained.

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The FBI knows who they are.

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They're not ignoring the real suspects.

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You're just full of shit chasing fantasies.

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And it works.

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Alex is recognizing how fucking lucrative this is.

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Yeah.

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And what he's doing is maybe not illegal.

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Why don't we do this more?

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Yep.

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It's crazy.

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You can see the glee that he's expressing about our traffic.

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The servers are smoking.

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Right, right, right.

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So many people are coming in.

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We need to do Google bombs to get false flag out there

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so people will be led to the site.

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Oh my God, it's all happening.

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Yeah, I think you should also, I also should have added

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into the Alex's ex-wife tone of voice

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is that she was talking to a clearly drunk Alex as well.

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Most likely drunk Alex.

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Yeah, yeah, yeah.

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Very, very likely drunk Alex.

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So I would describe this next clip as self-parody

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because it begins with David and Jakari

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trying to express how sincere the interests of Infowars are.

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Like they're into the truth, right?

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Sure.

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And then Alex immediately invalidates that.

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We're more interested in the truth

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than we are about position.

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By the way, Dan, you getting Infowars.com

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out on every network?

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I said double the traffic.

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That was earlier the report.

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It's like 50 times the traffic.

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We're getting a million visitors

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every couple minutes right now.

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Are you serious?

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No, no, no.

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It's 100,000K new people every 60 seconds.

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Wow.

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The IT guys have never,

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this is probably like the number one website in the world

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just during this window.

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Wow.

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It is 100,000K new joining who's already on it.

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This isn't hits.

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These are visitors every minute.

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Wow.

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We're watching the New World Order burn down.

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David Knight says,

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we are more interested in truth than position

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than immediately Alex barges in

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bragging about how many hits they're getting.

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We're the number one news site in the world.

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That's too, what we're more interested in is the truth.

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Hey everybody, we're getting so many people,

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we're going to put a counter up on the board.

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All right, there's one, there's two, there's three, there's four.

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It's Jesus Christ.

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That's too bad.

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It's parody.

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It's self parody.

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So they go to the calls

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and want to get some listeners' takes

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on what the press conference,

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what their feeling about it was.

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And this first guy has a shit take on it.

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And I also wanted to say that

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to me this whole news conference was about one thing.

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It wasn't about them saying,

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you know, we're investigating.

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This was a direct shot at Alex Jones at infowars.com

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because you notice as soon as the Gandhi mentioned infowars,

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they immediately shut them down.

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The thing about we're not going to have anybody looking,

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nobody should look at any other photos.

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Why?

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Because yesterday everything else had out about the photos

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or the deals, et cetera.

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I really believe that's the main reason they put this out.

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Yeah, I mean, you know, this whole press conference

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really wasn't about getting these suspects' photos.

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It was an attack on Infowars.

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This is parasitic levels of narcissism.

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Like, it's crazy.

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These people are narcissistic for Alex.

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Yeah, yeah, yeah.

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On Alex's behalf.

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Imagining that this entire city, all the FBI,

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all of the people trying to solve this crime,

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nah, nah, nah, nah, nah,

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they're really just trying to discredit Alex.

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Yeah.

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Fucking hell, man.

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That is such a way to inflate your own self-importance

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is by hitching your wagon to somebody

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who you think is the most important.

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Like, that's such...

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Well, it's narcissism by proxy.

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Yeah, yeah. That's fucked up.

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So here's another stupid-ass caller.

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Now, here's the thing.

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The FBI trying to take control of the narrative.

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Look, all you have to do is call them and yell at them.

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Tell them.

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What are you doing trying to control the narrative

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and try to tell me that my eyes...

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See, I am the real Homeland Security.

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So are you, and so is everybody else out there.

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They don't control anything,

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and I'm so sick of them trying to control the narrative.

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Yeah.

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This is bullcrap.

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We can solve this.

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We can solve this.

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He said control the narrative three times.

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Somebody lock that man inside his house

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and don't let him outside.

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He probably doesn't get out that much to begin with.

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That's probably true.

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So now Alex barges into studio

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because he's going to try and bully Leanne McAdoo

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into coming on air

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because Leanne has cracked the case

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and figured out why these two,

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the photos of the suspects,

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can't be the real suspects.

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She's cracked the case.

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Leanne's got it.

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Leanne's got it covered.

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All right.

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It's more looking about Sandy Hook,

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which is a false story.

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Hold on. Hold on. Hold on. Hold on.

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Okay. I'm sorry.

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Let's get Leanne McAdoo in here.

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Leanne, come on.

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No.

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Leanne, you get in here and make your point.

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Gray backpack, folks.

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She's right.

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It's not black.

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It's gray.

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Go ahead and tell people.

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It's a gray backpack, right?

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I mean...

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Did she get a round of applause?

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No, no.

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You're right.

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I saw it.

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You can look at that.

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The guy's got a gray backpack.

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Those were black backpacks.

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So this rabbit trail doesn't even fit the script.

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Do we have some new information there?

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No, no, no.

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No, no, no.

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No, this is war room.

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Hey, want to get a seat

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here?

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No, hold on.

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I'm going to say this, because I've been telling her this all week, and David, you can attest

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to this.

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I told Leanne, if you don't come in here and just briefly do just a quick report or just

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say something, Alex Jones is going to find you in the hall, drag you in here, and make

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you get on.

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Did I not?

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I've been saying that all week.

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Okay.

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Hold on.

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Let's get her a chair.

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Now you're in it.

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This is Leanne McAdoo, one of our new reporters here in the info war.

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She will be joining us.

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Welcome aboard, Leanne.

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So the problem with Leanne's thinking here is that there was only one picture that was

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made public of an exploded backpack, and it did appear to be a darker, most likely black

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backpack.

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When the FBI released the images of the suspects, who we would soon come to know as Tamerlan

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and Jokar Sarnav, it appeared that the bag that Jokar was wearing was lighter in color,

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possibly gray.

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At no point had it been established that the pictured exploded backpack was Jokar's, nor

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had it ever been established that the brothers were carrying identical bags.

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The photograph bag could easily have been the one Tamerlan was carrying, and Jokar could

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have had a lighter bag.

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There's literally no contradiction here.

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But because info wars is so insistent on coming out with spin, and as they keep saying, controlling

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the narrative, anything that they think could be used to plant doubt is worth reporting.

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Beyond that, one still photograph of a post-explosion backpack is not enough to conduct a forensic

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investigation on.

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Alex and his crew have no idea what effect the explosion could have had on the color

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of the backpack, which isn't to say that I definitely think that it could have turned

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a gray backpack black, just that they have no goddamn idea what they're talking about.

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This isn't the behavior of journalists.

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This is more what you'd expect to hear from idiots smoking weed trying to blow each other's

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minds, sensational and intriguing if you're slightly impaired but utterly without substance.

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Poor first showing, Leanne, really sucks that your first appearance on the show was spouting

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half-cooked bullshit to help Alex profit off lying about a national tragedy.

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Unlike these other people on the show, I know what Leanne was doing before she joined info

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wars.

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I'm certain that this is just a gig for her.

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I know that she used to be a New Age hippie, blogging about, quote, being deeply drawn

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to reconnect with Source as the Mayan calendar ended in 2012, which is shockingly close to

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when she won Alex's find a reporter contest.

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I know that she'd entered another TV hosting contest, the CW Austin star in 2011, and she'd

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been on a TV show prior to that called The Last Resorts.

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I'm willing to believe that she may not have known what she was getting into when she started

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at info wars, but if you're a bohemian free spirit out there practicing tarot one day

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and the next, you know, you're doing this shit and not immediately quitting when you

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see Alex behaving how he has on air since the bombing, I guess all I can say is I fucking

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hope that job paid super well because you're doing this and you are, you don't believe

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this.

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Nope.

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This is an act.

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Man.

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I feel bad.

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I feel bad.

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Maybe not for her later, but here on April, 2013, if you're just joining in.

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Bye.

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Yeah.

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I mean, you, you immediately invalidate any empathy I have for you by like, aha, gray

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backpack.

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Right.

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I mean, she was forcing her on air and she'd rather not, uh, but still go fuck yourself.

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Yeah.

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I remember my family had a blue minivan, uh, and then we left and when we came back, there

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was this, uh, just pile of black ash.

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And so we assumed that the minivan had been stolen.

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Of course.

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It definitely wasn't on fire.

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Makes sense.

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Because our minivan was blue, Dan, it was a blue minivan.

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It wasn't a gray one made of ash.

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Right.

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Duh.

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It makes sense.

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Um, and I would feel just as bad about, uh, you know, or mad and directed this way at

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like any of these people.

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If I knew, like, let's say if I knew that right before Rob do joined info wars, he was

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out there writing about crystals or if he was like a left wing activist or something

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like that.

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If I knew those elements of these people's prior lives, I would be just as insisted that

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like you are acting, you're doing this, causing the damage that you're doing and spreading

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this propaganda and you don't even believe in it.

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I'm not sure which is worse, you know, like actually believing it or doing it for a check.

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But I, I, I, I think doing it for a check is less, um, acceptable to me.

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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I think, uh, I don't know.

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Believing in crystals and tarot and shit and not doing it for a check.

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That seems bad to me.

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That's no good.

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I don't know.

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I'm just, I just think these people can go fuck themselves.

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Absolutely.

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So anyway, we have one last clip here and it's a, that caller who got interrupted by

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Alex barging in to bring Leanne into the studio.

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Um, he was trying to spin a Sandy Hook conspiracy.

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Oh, good.

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Now's the time for it.

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Certainly.

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And so they get back to him and he's still trying to spin this conspiracy and it just

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doesn't work.

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I thought you'd like to know that.

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I'm sorry.

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Could you, did you get that?

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Yeah, I'm sorry.

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We had a little technical difficulty.

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Can you repeat Leanne, some double plugs here with you on hold.

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We have like 10 people talking in here at the same time.

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This is bullshit.

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That's so unreal.

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It's great that he has like a hundred times the traffic or whatever.

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So people can hear great radio like that.

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Like a hundred fucking room.

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That's unreal.

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Yeah.

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What is this?

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A coach Dave show.

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He's full of this, this narcissism that cause he thinks he's right about all of these things.

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He thinks he scooped the media.

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He thinks that even the release of the FBI pictures of the suspects are evidence that

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he's right.

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And uh, he's being profited handsomely for it.

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You know, he's getting exactly what he wants, which is way more attention.

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And that's a probably bad sign.

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On the night of April 18th, Tamerlan and Jokhar Sarnov realized that they had been caught.

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And as soon as the FBI released pictures of them, you know, that's when they figured it

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out.

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Yeah, yeah, yeah.

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Up till that point, they know it's us.

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Up to that point, they weren't getting any suspicion thrown their way online from all

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of these blogs that were researching and finding suspects.

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The authorities had been tight lipped about the leads they were pursuing.

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And if you were them, you might get the sense that you'd gotten away with it.

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And from all accounts, that's pretty much what they thought.

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They'd gone back to their normal lives, uh, and thought, Hey, maybe we pulled this off.

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And then that press conference happened, and it all got disrupted, and they panicked.

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The FBI press conference was at about 5pm, and at 10.31pm, the brothers approached the

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vehicle of an MIT police officer named Sean Collier, who they then killed, most likely

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because they only had one gun, and there were two of them.

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At 11.26pm, they carjacked an SUV in Boston.

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The driver of that car managed to escape, and he called 911 at 12.19am.

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He goes on to tell the police that the two men who carjacked him told him that they bombed

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the Boston Marathon, and that his car was equipped with GPS.

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So the police turned on that GPS and began to track their car.

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At 12.41, the police located the SUV in Watertown, along with a sedan, uh, that was being driven

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by the two brothers, and it's called in.

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The reporting officer is told not to approach until more units arrive, so he follows them.

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After a brief drive, the driver of the SUV gets out, and he approaches the police car

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firing a gun.

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At approximately the same time, the police supervisor's unit shows up, and someone else

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comes out of the sedan throwing homemade bombs at the police.

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There's a brief firefight, and at 12.49pm, the man with a gun, who turns out to be Tamerlan,

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is tackled by a cop, whereupon he's run over by his younger brother, who's attempting to

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flee.

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Tamerlan is put in an ambulance and taken to the hospital, where he is pronounced dead

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at 1.06am, despite attempts at resuscitation.

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But Jokar got away.

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He abandoned his car about a half mile away, and fled on foot.

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The night was absolute chaos, and when it was all said and done, one suspect was dead,

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along with Sean Collier, the MIT officer.

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Additionally, Officer Dennis D.J. Simmons suffered injuries in the Watertown firefight

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that would go on to take his life a year later, in April 2014.

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He's officially recognized as the fifth victim of the bombing, and though much of Boston

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remembers him as a hero, he's all too often forgotten in this story.

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In particular, his family was pretty upset that the Mark Wahlberg movie Patriot's Day

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seemed to not even be aware of him, even though there is a memorial loop of the other victims

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of that attack in the movie.

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It's hard not to see that being a race thing, but that might also be partially because it's

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a Mark Wahlberg movie.

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The entire situation changed overnight.

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Now the surviving perpetrator knows that the police know who he is, and that they're looking

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for him.

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But he doesn't know if his brother is dead, or if he's being interrogated at that time.

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Now the police know that these suspects are absolutely willing to murder police, and one

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of them is on the loose and armed, at least with a gun and possibly with even more IEDs.

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The city that was previously on edge with an absence of information now has come to

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the crest, and finds itself with a whole lot of information, and it's fucking scary information.

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No one knows where Jokhar went.

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How does Alex respond to all this?

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That's what we'll learn on our next installment, where we'll also get to learn a little bit

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more about these brothers.

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I suspect it's going to be a gigantic mess.

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And Alex...

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I'm not looking forward to it.

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I can't even imagine what he's going to end up doing with this.

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Really not looking forward to it.

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If he's gone this crazy with the situation we've had so far, when there's a firefight,

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a killed cop, one of the suspects is dead, overnight, I just can't even imagine how irresponsible

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the 19th is going to be.

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Wow, this is going to be a shit show.

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Yup, so look forward to that!

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Yay!

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Hooray!

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Oh god.

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You know what, it's just like, you just think, hey, the day of the bombing, that's going

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to be the most awful thing.

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And then each passing day is just new levels of terrible behavior on his part.

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It's all new lows.

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It's constantly new lows.

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It's a spiral down the toilet bowl of sanity that is, I mean, just, even without, even

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without retrospect, because obviously it's easy to look back and be like, but even during

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that time, it is unconscionable what he's done.

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Yes.

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It is just unconscionable.

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And how many people flocked to just the simplest possible explanation from the dumbest possible

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man in order to assuage their dumb fear, or their very rational fear, apologies.

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The rational fear is what leads to the unsatisfied fear.

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Yeah, yeah, yeah.

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And it's just like, that's a fucking microcosm.

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And then all the people who flocked probably because it's a more interesting story and

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saw it as entertainment and then maybe got sucked in, or even if they didn't get sucked

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in still helped profit Alex and his operation.

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It's really tragic to think about and, uh, it is, it is like from these two days you

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can extrapolate the end of humanity.

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Like you see exactly how we're going to go.

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Maybe not now.

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It does pretend, maybe not now, maybe not soon, but that is exactly how we're all going

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to die.

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Like that's how it's going to go down.

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It all really helps make sense of his later trajectory.

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Yeah.

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It really does.

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This attention seeking behavior, this desperation to be seen as on the, on the right side, the

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winning team, uh, appearances of destroying the globalists.

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Like it kind of does put into perspective a lot of like the Trump, uh, flip.

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Yeah.

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And not just that, but like, this is him almost making that turn of like, finally I'm actually

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right.

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Like this is that, like that consistent, that insistence that they are not giving me credit

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for being right.

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That's that belief that, holy shit, me of all people.

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Finally the pieces are in place for me to present myself as right.

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I think, well, I mean, in that day I really do think he believes that he's nailed it.

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I think it's possible.

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I think it's an argument you can make.

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I'm less certain as someone who, um, doesn't trust him at all.

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For sure.

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And I also think that his mind is such a, just a, like a, like a spider's nest.

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I don't know.

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Like a deep, scary thing that's mysterious.

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I see, I see it exactly like the road, you know, like Cormac McCarthy wrote Alex Jones's

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brain.

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It's something that is, uh, it's hard to decipher, you know, you don't really, you think you

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understand what's going on, but it may be something entirely different.

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I am reticent to say that he actually believes what he's saying, or if he wasn't getting

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a ton of traffic off this, I think you could make that argument much easier.

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Right.

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Right.

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Because Alex is celebrating all of this traffic and recognizing like, ha ha, we're on top.

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Right.

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Like that really makes it difficult for me to believe that he definitely believes this

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because that's the ulterior motive that we know he chases.

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No, I've got the absolute correct explanation for this.

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Uh, Alex is possessed by the devil.

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He would say that.

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I know.

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And that's exactly what the devil would say, Dan.

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If he saw someone behaving like this, he would certainly accuse him of being...

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I rest my case.

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Or it could just be his subconscious.

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Could be.

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Or the devil.

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Or it could be God.

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Any of the three, who knows?

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Maybe they're all the same.

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Maybe.

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Anyway, we'll be back.

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Indeed.

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But until next time, we got a website.

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We do.

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It's knowledgefight.com.

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Yep.

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We got to also, we're on Twitter.

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We are on Twitter.

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It's at knowledge underscore fight and at go to bed.

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Thanks for holding.

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Hello, Alex.

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I'm a first time caller.

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I'm a huge fan.

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I love your work.

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I love you.