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Hello Alex, I'm a first-time caller, I'm a huge fan

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Hey everybody, welcome back to Fight

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Knowledge, I'm Jordan

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I'm Dan

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Ah, this is a little show where sometimes I

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take over and derail a better show in

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order to, you know, approximate some expertise

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Better is subjective

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Ah, it says, uh, okay

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That's humility on my part

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Thanks Dan

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Uh-huh

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You're very helpful

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So what is this show?

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Well, today Dan, I'm gonna do a little

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talking about a guy named Graham Ledger

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Uh-huh

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From One America News

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Okay

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Uh, network

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Alright, before you do that

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That's the plan

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Do you have a bright spot?

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But before I do, yeah, well, I didn't ask you

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This is the first time you've messed up your side of the

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That's not true, because you didn't say that this is a show where we

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drink novelty beverages and talk a little bit

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Oh, for god's sake

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Which is what leads into

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I'm gonna do the whole shit

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Right, so what's your bright spot?

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God damn it

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Uh, Dan, my bright spot is, uh, Arca released a new album

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Okay

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And, uh, it's all avant-garde experimental

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Cool

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Uh, yeah, but he did a song with, uh, Bjork

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And it's been a long time since I've heard any Bjork

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And this song is so fucking Bjorky

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Oh

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It is the most Bjork that I've, it's concentrated Bjork

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And it's been a while

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One of the few artists who you can really credibly turn their name into an adjective

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Yeah, it's really Bjorky

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Yeah

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Yeah, yeah

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Well, that's great, I'm glad you have some, uh, new experimental avant-garde nonsense to listen to

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That's what I like, what's your bright spot, Dan?

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Uh, this is gonna be paradoxical, because this is also a little bit involving the year of the

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SELTZER

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But it's also not necessarily a bright bright spot

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Mm-hmm

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It might be the lowest spot

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It might be the lowest, okay

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But, in its terribleness

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Mm-hmm

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It serves as a reminder that I'm sometimes prophetic

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Okay

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Um, on our last episode, I discussed how with SELTZERs, there are some flavors that are best not for some to try

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Mm-hmm, mm-hmm

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Um, and one of the examples that I pulled out of the air was

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Good and Gather, Don't Fuck with Cucumber Stuff

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So you found Good and Gather

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Well, I did have this in the fridge, and I was worried about it, which is probably why it came out

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Sure

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I got a mint cucumber from, uh, Good and Gather, which is the Target brand

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Alright

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It is the worst I've had

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The worst SELTZER, period

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Across the board

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All the way

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Yes

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All the way, what, are we sub-ten?

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It's a ten

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Oh

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Because I think that it's possible for something to be worse

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Ten out of a hundred, trash

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Just absolute trash

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And here's why

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Why?

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If you get cucumber flavor

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And you supplement that with something like mint, which adds a little bit of, uh, I don't know

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I don't know if umami is the right name

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But it adds a little bit of a savoriness to it

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It adds a little salty complexity to it with the SELTZER water

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You end up with pickle

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That is a pickle SELTZER, and it's gross

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You got pickle juice, you drank pickle juice

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I like pickle juice

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This was disgusting

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With pickle juice, it's great because it's super concentrated, and you can have a tiny bit of it when you're eating a pickle

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Or something, and it's like, oh, look at that burst of salty greatness

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This is supposed to be a refreshing SELTZER drink, and it tastes like a goddamn pickle, and it's gross

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So fuck you, Good and Gather, you're now the worst

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I gotta get you a SodaStream just so you can put pickle juice in there and get really carbonated pickle juice

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So then you can really compare the two

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I do think the end of the year of the SELTZER is obviously me getting a SodaStream

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I think that is how this all pays off

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Yeah, you have to make your own

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But I can't do that now, because if I do, then it'll take away from my ability to try a bunch of other ones

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So anyway, go fuck yourself, Good and Gather

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You've surprised me with your disgustingness

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Take that, John Rapaport

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You've been replaced

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John Rapaport owns Target's SELTZER division

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That's what we can blame him for

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That's what we can blame him for, for sure

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Well, that's a wonderful bright spot, Dan

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Well, it's because I was right

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Yes, you were right

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That's why it's a bright spot

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It did pay off

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Although it's gross

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It actually was a...

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It's one of the only SELTZERs I can actually think of that I took two sips of and just poured the rest out

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Oh no, straight up

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Well, the first one was like, wah, bad

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But then I was like, is it that bad?

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So I took a second one and then dumped the rest of the bucket out

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Bucket? Yeah, it's a bucket

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It wasn't even a bottle

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That's what Target gets you, Good and Gather buckets

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Why'd you gather that?

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Shouldn't have gathered it

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It's bad

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Bad and dump it

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Bad and forage

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Right, whatever

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So yeah, that's where I'm at

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Yeah, I like that

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I like that, that's a good bright spot

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Well yeah, like I said, we're going to be talking about Graham Ledger today

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This is from, we're going to be talking from the July 1st episode of his show

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But before we get to that, we're going to have to thank some listeners who've signed

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up and are supporting the team

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Well that's great

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Yeah, alright, first up, Jamie K, you are now a policy wonk

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I think that's Janie

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Janie?

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Oh, that's your handwriting

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Alright, Jamie K, you are now a policy wonk

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I'm a policy wonk

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Thank you, Jamie

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Thank you very much, Jamie

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And Marcella S, you are now a policy wonk

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I'm a policy wonk

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Thank you very much, Marcella

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Thank you

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And then Greg Legs, you are now a policy wonk

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I'm a policy wonk

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Greg Legs

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Greg's, let's put the both of them together

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Good portmanteau

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Is that what that is?

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I don't know

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Yeah, alright

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And then next, Bone Dog

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Bone Dog

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Bone Dog, you're now a policy wonk

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I'm a policy wonk

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It's important to note that that was all capital letters

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Oh, it was?

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Yeah

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You did?

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Wow, man, your handwriting

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Yeah, capitalized with a bigger O's

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Oh, okay

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Alright

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Fine

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I'm not criticizing you

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Back to fucking calligraphy class here, how cursive, back when they were trying to teach

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me cursive, which paid off, I'm glad I learned that

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If you use your left hand, you're a sinner

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Okay

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It's true in cursive class

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Well, I don't

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But, Matthew G, you are now a policy wonk

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I'm a policy wonk

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Thanks, Matt

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Yes, thank you very much, Matt

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And then Eric W, you are now a policy wonk

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I'm a policy wonk

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Thanks, Eric

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And now we have to thank some people who've bumped their donation up to a much higher

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level, which we appreciate very much

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Alex R. and Mike Hawk, you are both now technocrats

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I'm a policy wonk

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Crikey, mate, that's fantastic, have yourself a brew

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How's your 401k doing, bro?

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Alright, we gotta go full tilt boogie on this, Watson, alright?

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Let's just get down to business

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We ain't making that money off that heroin

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Why you pimps so good?

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My neck is freakishly large

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I declare info war on you

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Thank you so much

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Yes, thank you very much, Alex and Mike Hawk

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You're really not doing a great job of, uh, you're over articulating that clearly joke

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name

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What's wrong?

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What's wrong with that?

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It's written down Mike Hawk

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Right

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I don't understand

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It's Tony Hawk's cousin

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Yep, yeah

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I did

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Poor guy

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Thank you all

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Yes, thank you very much

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And, uh, if you would like to sign up and, uh, support the team, you can go to our website

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and click the button that says support the show, that'll take you to our Patreon

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And we would appreciate it very much

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Or you can find a local charity in your area, or a bail fund and the like, and, uh, go ahead

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and donate to that

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See, it's not as easy as it looks to try and, like, come up with a way to express packaging

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something

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I just moved on

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You're the professional

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I'm not, I drop the ball almost every time

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You killed it

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So, Jordan, you mentioned we're going to be talking about somebody from OAN

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Yes

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This is something that's interesting because it's a topic that I want to cover, but I don't

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really know how to, because there's not a lot that I can see to latch onto in terms

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of personalities of the people there

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I certainly don't think that they have what you describe as a rising, uh, like a steady

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hand, a real star

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They do not

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Um, but it is something that is very relevant in the world of right-wing propaganda, and

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I'm glad that you took the initiative, um, to look into a little something so we can

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have maybe a way of dipping our toe into that, uh, gross water

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Yeah

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Um, and, uh, something may, uh, infect us

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Metaphorically

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Yes, hopefully

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Uh, from, from that toe dip

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Yeah, well, I mean, I watched a lot of One America, uh, which was not fun

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No, I can't imagine it would be

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No, and it's, like, the whole network is a harder-right, uh, minor-league Fox News

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Mm-hmm

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You know, it's like, Fox News is the majors

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Kinda

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Yeah

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But Infowars at least has, you know, a slugger in Alex Jones

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Yeah

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You know

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It's like, uh, they're like a really bad team that has one guy who, who at least fills some

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seats

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Yeah, yeah, he's Adam Dunn

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Right

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He hits 40 a year with a 220 average

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Yeah

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That's, uh, that's Alex

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And then, uh, and then OAN is the one that has, like, the big backer or whatever

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Yeah, yeah, yeah

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Because Trump seems to love them a bit

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Herring Senior

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But there's just no, there's just nothing, every time, I have watched a little bit of

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it myself

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Mm-hmm

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I will say

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Sure

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Every time I have, I've just been like, what is happening here?

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This is, it's just not good

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Yeah

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It's not, it's not compelling, and a lot of it seems to be very similar in theme and

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content to stuff we already talk about

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Yeah, totally

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So I, I always had, I would describe it, at least my experience of, like, considering

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covering it

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Mm-hmm

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A lot of it felt like I was a rock climber who couldn't find a hold

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Yeah

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Yeah, yeah

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I just couldn't figure out, like, what is, what is this?

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What is this rock?

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That's a great way of putting it

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Yeah

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That's a really great way of putting it

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Well, thank you

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Yeah, yeah, yeah

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And

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I'm glad that you're going to now try to climb that rock

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Well, let me tell you something, there is one rock, there is one rock, and you should

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just go ahead and play our out-of-contact strop and that'll give you an idea

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Alright

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It would be very handy if Roger Stone died in a prison, uh, you know

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Okay

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Yeah

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Well, for whom?

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Yeah, well, we'll see

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I mean, we already know

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Yeah

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He talks about this, you talked about this with Alex

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He talks about this once Roger dead in a COVID-infested prison

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Totally

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And he went on and he gave the interview and it was almost word-for-word the exact same

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interview

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Um, Roger

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Yes

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Is that what we're talking about?

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Roger going on OAN?

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Roger went on OAN, my friend

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Of course he did

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Of course he did

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I also got a message, uh, a couple of messages actually about other stops that Roger made

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and apparently he was on, like, a QAnon show

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Sure

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Prior to being on, uh, Info Wars

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I imagine that has to be a scheduling thing

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Yeah

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Because I, I, I feel like Alex would blow up if that was intentional

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I'd be very mad

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But yeah, he's been going all over the place because, I mean, we even talked about this

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on our last episode when Roger was on Info Wars

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It's like this is a media tour where he's just begging Trump to pardon him

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Oh yeah

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By way of saying how much value he has to Trump

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Now, here's the thing, we skipped that part entirely on this one

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Okay

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This interview, and there aren't that many clips of it, it was a really short interview

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In this interview, there's no buttering Trump up, really

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Okay

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It is out and out begging

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Literally he says, I'm begging you, I'm begging Trump to pardon him

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Well, I mean, when he was on Info Wars, he said he prayed to Trump

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He, he says he's praying to Trump again today

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So maybe it wasn't a slip of the tongue

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Nope, nope

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Well, I think

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This is a man who prays to Trump

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I think that that's probably a good move on his part because, uh, unlike with Info Wars,

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he has a pretty good reason to believe that Trump may actually be watching OAN

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Oh yeah

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Yeah

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Yeah

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Much smarter

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Yikes

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So yeah, he goes on Graham Ledger's show, Graham Ledger is the, is the, you know, minor

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league Bill O'Reilly

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Okay

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He's trying to do that whole thing, and he's just even more hard right, that's the whole

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idea

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And to, well, this is a tweet that he had in the last 24 hours, in response to Newsom

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tweeting out something like, it's a good idea to wear a mask

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Masks are good, man

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Yeah, yeah, yeah

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Wearing a mask is a sign of submission

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I would rather die from the Wuhan coronavirus than ever submit you or you

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Come and get me, jerk

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Ooh

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Hashtag first July, hashtag National Doctor's Day, hashtag COVID-19, hashtag Rem Dezevir,

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hashtag coronavirus

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Okay

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So he's

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He's trying to get some real traction there with the hashtags

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Yeah

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He's trying to bump engagement

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He's infecting Twitter

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Come and get me

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What?

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The government is politely asking you to do an eminently reasonable thing.

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How does that turn into, come and get me?

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Wow, it's good to sign a submission

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Oh, that's fair

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But that's again like really in line with Alex's pretty consistent stuff about, I mean

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just about everything, not you, like it long predates COVID-19 or masks, just anything

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he doesn't like is a submission

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Yeah

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And it's just preparing you for the globalists to fill in the blank

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Oh yeah

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I can't stand going to McDonald's and getting one curly fry.

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It's not further

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Yeah, they won't let you have supersize at McDonald's anymore, it's just getting you

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ready for the FEMA camp

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Yeah, exactly

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Next thing you know, they're going to be feeding you Soylent Green, it's people, that's going

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to be us, us good God-loving conservatives are going to turn us into food, do you understand?

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That's exactly how it works

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Yep

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Oh yeah

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As you were saying, William Herring Sr. is the, no Robert Herring Sr. is the guy who

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is the big backer, who owns One America and both he and our boy Graham Ledger just this

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year lost a lawsuit to their former booking producer

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Robert Minow Jr.

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Not quite, Jonathan Harris, Harris who is black, brought it up in a meeting, a private

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meeting with Robert Herring Sr.

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He's just like, hey I'm getting, like I know where I work, okay?

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People are being very racially harassing towards me

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Okay

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Within 24 hours he was fired

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Well you can't say that at a meeting

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No, no, no, no you can't

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Well and he also made it very clear that Graham Ledger was one of the biggest offenders

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Oh so he is like Bill O'Reilly

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Oh yeah

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Okay

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Exactly

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He just won 300 grand in compensatory damages and the

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That seems low

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Yeah and the total lawsuit was 1.1 million I think is what he got

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So it's that kind of thing

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Now with Graham, I was looking into him and I was trying to find his history and his bio

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and stuff like that and he doesn't have a Wikipedia page which I find fascinating

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He has been on One America as a host for three years now, something like that, maybe even

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longer and he still doesn't have a Wikipedia page

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Huh

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Yeah, isn't that weird?

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I guess a little bit, maybe they're just not, maybe they're not nearly as big as

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That could be

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I don't know, maybe no one's interested

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Maybe we're the only, I mean isn't it a situation where like Wikipedia pages are really just

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based on how much interest anyone has to make one

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Yeah, pretty much

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Maybe no one's interested in making one

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It might not be

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I think a lot of people only have Wikipedia pages because they make them for themselves

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Yeah, oh, you think so?

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Yeah, so maybe this is actually a sign that he's not a vain person

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We should congratulate him for not having a Wikipedia page

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Well, I will disavow you of that notion

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Okay

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He is very vain

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But I did find a bio page on Marathi.tv

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I believe it's Marathi, it is now my new favorite website

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Okay

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It is Marathi.tv,.tv is according to Marathi.tv, Maharashtra's leading entertainment and cultural

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website, Marathi is, or Maharashtra is a region in India and Marathi is the predominant language

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of that people

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Okay

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I have no idea why he is on that website and not Wikipedia, but he's there and there's

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some great little fun fact-type things about him like this, there's a couple that stuck

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out to me

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Mm-hmm

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Graham Charles Ledger is an American businessman, television news anchor, and host of the Daily

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Ledger

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With more than three decades of experience, he has earned himself a prominent seat in

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conservative news coverage

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Mm-hmm

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That seems a little self-aware for a website primarily based out of India

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You mean self-written?

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Maybe

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Okay

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Right

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Thirty years of experience, is that the business experience or has he been in the media for

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thirty years?

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A little bit of both

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Okay

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He started out, he's a San Diego guy

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Oh

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And he started out

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Enough said

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Exactly, you know those San Diegans

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I don't know what, I don't know how that's an answer to my question, he's a San Diego

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guy

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Well, when he was in San Diego, he was a local news host

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Oh, okay

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Exactly, or he's still in San Diego, and he's a local news host, and it's like, his career

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goes like that until about 2004, 2005, and then he switches and helps start Smart Drive

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Systems, which is a business that makes cameras to put in long-haul truckers' cabs in order

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to watch them at all times

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Oh, that's cool

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Yeah, right?

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Great

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He's a terrifying psycho

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Spy on truckers

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Exactly

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So they don't take amphetamines that we almost require people, I don't actually know if that's

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true, that might be based on a real stereotype

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Yeah

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Yeah, real shitty

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Yeah, real shitty, but that gives him the term American businessman, and then later

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on he goes and starts working, it's a little bit like Ron Burgundy turned into Bill O'Reilly,

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like that's kind of the career trajectory that he's had

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So he's a big deal

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He's a

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Kind of

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Big deal

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And then here's another part of his, here's another fun tidbit, he has a daughter named

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Sienna Marilyn, whom he loves very much

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Marilyn?

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Marilyn

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Oh, okay

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Their social media presence is heartwarming

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That's in the bio?

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That's in the bio

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I mean, it's subjective, but fine, I'll allow it

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Right, that's a little bit weird

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Here's where it gets a little bit more and more obvious, with his sharp business skills,

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Ledger soon established a market foothold and made business relationships with the state

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of California and the Salvation Army as his clients

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So the Salvation Army is buying his spy shit

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Apparently

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Yeah

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Now, I looked into this further, and it turns out all of that information from Marathi TV

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comes directly from a Meet the Candidates interview that he had when he was running

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for one of the seats on the San Diegoitos Union High School District Board of Trustees

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I ran in 2012, quote directly from the article

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In 2006, I helped launch a high-tech company in San Diego, Smart Drive Systems

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With little or no budget, we successfully carved out a market foothold and established

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the company in a highly competitive industry, while personally establishing new client relationships,

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including the state of California and Salvation Army

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So, I suspect that there is somebody in India who really likes Graham Ledger

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Huh

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That's, that's as good as I can get there

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Yeah, that's a mystery

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Yeah, isn't that weird?

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Yeah, I don't know what to say about that, but that is, you have solved the mystery of

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where those words came from

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Exactly!

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I'm a great researcher

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But we still don't have an answer for why

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I'm a great researcher

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Congratulations

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Thank you

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Now, here's, there's another bio

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Okay

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That I found on a website called Healthyton.com

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Ton?

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Yeah

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T-O-N?

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Healthyton.com

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Okay

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I strongly recommend it for everyone

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For tons of health stuff?

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For no health stuff whatsoever

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Shit, so it's the reverse

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Apparently, this website just keeps, like, height, weight, and health information on

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celebrities

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Okay

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That's it

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I don't, yeah, okay, that sounds fun

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Yeah

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It's really weird

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Known afflictions

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It's so weird, yeah

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Has a bad knee

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Exactly!

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Yes, 100% that

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Wow, I don't want to look at this, this website

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But there is also weird biographical data here

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Mm-hmm

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So, in, let's see

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Does he have a celebrity feet picture bio?

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I don't think so

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Okay

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Does he?

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What would they do?

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I don't know, I'm just trying to guess, like, based on where your research has taken you,

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you'll be like, we've got the what, what illnesses might celebrities have and how much do they

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weigh website

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Yeah, that's the world

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Maybe there's some good foot shots of Ledger out there

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That's a good question

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Well, see now, if I were preparing this episode, I would have an answer for you

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You son of a bitch

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And I would have a poster board

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You son of a bitch

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And I'd have a poster board drawn up

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Alright

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Here is his feet

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Okay, alright

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What do Alex's feet look like?

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Oh, they're not good, man

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I believe that

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You ever seen Cthulhu?

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Yes, I have

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It's not like that at all

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Oh, okay

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But bad feet, bad feet

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Bad feet, alright

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Yeah, so on Healthyton, you get really, really weird grammar and stuff like this, so one

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quote from that is, Graham Ledger was born on 13th March 1961 in San Diego, California.

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He is American by nationality and his ethnic background is white.

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There is no information about his parents and siblings.

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Growing up, he learned at St. Ignatius College, preparatory situated in the place where he

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grew up and graduated with phenomenal evaluations

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Great

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And before further studies, joined San Diego State University and successfully obtained

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a bachelor's degree.

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All typos and poor grammar directly from the site.

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Graham Ledger was a reporter on, no, Graham Ledger was a reporter, KMFB-TV from 1990-2004.

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Eminent for covering probably the greatest live news stories like the 2003 California

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wildfire on national TV.

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That's a big story

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Yeah, he likewise took proficient photography from 2004-2005 and began Graham Ledger Photography.

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Besides, he seemed a few times on the radio, including 210 FM.

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He seems, seems to be.

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Exactly.

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Now, this is where it really ramped up here.

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The bad grammar?

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Oh yeah

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Which by the way, if I were this dude and I decided to write a bio about how I was into

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drugs or something, I'd be like, you know, his name's Graham, I would call it bad grammar.

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That's a good idea.

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Yeah.

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You can take that one, Ledger.

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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Go for it.

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He has a great name for puns.

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Well, his show is called The Daily Ledger.

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Right.

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Yeah.

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So we got one there.

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It's right there.

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Yeah.

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Graham, there's a lot of stuff you can do with that.

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Sure.

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Sure.

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21 grams.

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He could remake that movie.

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Yeah, absolutely.

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About the soul.

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Yeah.

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Please go ahead.

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That's, I think, the one I was thinking of.

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Reference.

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No, isn't seven.

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Well, whatever.

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I was thinking of the Wu-Tang lyric.

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Oh, I can never keep any of this straight.

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That's fair.

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But here's my favorite one.

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Graham Ledger's, this is under Graham Ledger's net worth salary.

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Graham Ledger, without a doubt, acquires a lot of fortune.

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So as a host and anchor, he acquires a normal salary of 127,000.

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It's protected to state that he conveys a net worth of millions.

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Fantastic.

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This seems like something that was from English that got translated and is translated back.

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Exactly.

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This seems like something that, there's a reason the grammar is bad.

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I think he has a fan in India who fucking loves him.

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That could be.

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Good for him.

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Mm-hmm.

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Yeah.

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So this show, the interview he does with Roger Stone, the show, for the most part, is garbage.

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I didn't deal with the second half at all, which is an interview with, what, Josh Horowitz,

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the conservative reporter guy.

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I don't know.

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It is one of the most racist, just out and out, straight up nonstop racism that I just,

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there was no point in doing anything with it.

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Shocked I haven't seen this guy on Infowars.

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I am too.

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Maybe he hates Infowars for some reason.

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Maybe even these folks know.

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Stay away from that.

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It really could be.

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And here he has one of the more incoherent things that we're dealing with because he

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has the same problem that Roger, that Alex had with Roger Stone.

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There's a status imbalance?

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Well, no, no, no, no.

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It doesn't seem like that at all.

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It's that Roger Stone is telling you if he goes to jail, COVID-19 will kill him.

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It's the most dangerous thing in the world.

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And Graham Ledger is going to tell you that there is no problem at all with COVID-19.

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That sort of, that branch in the road is tough to...

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Exactly.

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So we wind up bouncing back and forth, invalidating everything simultaneously, sometimes within

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the same sentence.

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But he starts off like this.

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It's all data driven.

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Not my opinion, facts, raw data, the numbers.

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So that's him saying that it not being a big deal is all raw data driven facts.

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He is about to tell us all about statistics.

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He is about to tell us the truth using only facts and numbers.

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Ma'am.

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Exactly.

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That's some dragnet shit.

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Immediately after saying that, he says this.

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Like the fact that this is the least lethal so-called global pandemic in world history.

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500,000 dead.

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Is this true, Jordan?

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Is it true, Dan?

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I don't know.

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How would you be able to tell that this is the least lethal so-called global pandemic

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in history?

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I mean, if you take away a few of those weaselly words, you could probably look at numbers

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and history and you could just go from there.

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Sure.

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How do you define a global pandemic, though?

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Touches the globe.

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Okay.

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One side to the other.

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Sure.

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I would call it that.

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Okay.

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And then least lethal, is he talking about percentages or total?

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Gross numbers?

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He said 500,000 dead, so you would kind of be led to believe that it would be a number

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of gross dead.

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Right.

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I don't know.

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Yeah.

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You got to define your terms.

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Right.

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Now, and then the other hand, okay, so SARS-1, is that the least lethal global pandemic in

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history because they took steps necessary to keep it from becoming a lethal global pandemic?

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Could be.

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You know?

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And still, I think the larger issue, it's not over yet.

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That's a good point.

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How can you tell me in the middle of the global pandemic that this is the least lethal one?

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You know?

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That's you saying, well, you don't need to act like this is a big deal until we make

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it the most lethal global pandemic.

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You know, like when you're at the beginning of a car wreck.

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Yeah.

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At a certain point, it's only a fender bender.

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The least lethal car wreck.

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If you're able to stop time just when you make contact with the other car, maybe at

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that point you've only scraped some paint.

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Exactly.

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Now, by the time the whole thing is over, maybe, yeah, maybe then there's some other

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downsides.

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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That is true.

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It's always difficult to, yeah, things aren't over.

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And you can't compare, yeah.

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So he's right out the gate.

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This is the beginning of the show.

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Second numbers already he has said something that neither makes sense nor can be dealt

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with at all.

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Then as if he understands, wait a second, I just said 500,000 people were dead and I

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said this was not a big deal.

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He goes with this.

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Yes, we just crossed a half a million deaths by COVID-19 globally.

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Ladies and gentlemen, I am not intending to diminish any of these deaths by corona.

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They were all human beings.

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All right, Dan.

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What do you think his next words will be?

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Oh, I mean, I'm guessing butt is how it starts.

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Yup.

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That is, I mean, I don't know.

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These people are like, like, you know, they're pool balls.

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They could break in any direction.

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I don't know, but I know it's going to start with butt.

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Oh yeah.

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Butt is the cue ball that's about to hit and it's going to go in some unpredictable direction.

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They're all humans, but I don't know.

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Something like that.

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Yeah.

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Go for it.

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But that number is a political statistical joke.

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I don't know what that means.

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Right?

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Also, how can you start with, I'm not trying to diminish any of these deaths and end with,

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it's a joke.

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The number is a political statistical joke.

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Yeah.

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Okay.

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Yeah.

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All right.

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In what way does that not diminish every single death?

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I mean, I guess what he's trying to say is probably that the way in which the number

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is used is a political charade or whatever.

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But then that's invalidating his stated objective of just using the facts and the numbers because

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he still now has to talk about that 500,000 and they are all humans, but yeah, that's

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weird.

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That seems like he's trapped himself in a bit of a weird cucumber mint pickle.

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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He's got his own soda stream going right now.

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So yeah, already this is just the first two minutes of his segment and he has already

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said three conflicting things that don't make any sense at the same time.

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He's having it both ways as much as he possibly can.

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And he knows what he's doing too.

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Like even now, even with this clip, he says something like this.

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There are some what?

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Six billion plus or minus a few hundred million people on the planet?

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Six billion?

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Half a million is not statistically relevant.

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And in this country, the death by COVID-19 numbers are not spiking, repeat, not spiking.

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Wow, he swung me.

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Yeah.

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You know why?

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Here's what I'll say.

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Here's why I respect this guy as a broadcaster because 500,000, that sounds like a lot of

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people, but then when you bring up a bigger number, I'm like, that's not that big a number.

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That's not that big a number.

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Yeah.

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That's not relevant.

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I'm going to take the hell out of that and I am now going to donate to him.

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You got convinced.

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Yeah.

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All it took was someone just talking about facts.

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Furthermore, Dan, how many billions of people are on the planet?

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I think those are seven.

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Yeah.

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It's over seven.

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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But this guy has all the facts, all the numbers.

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I'm not going to be pedantic about that because I lose track of that world population.

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I mean, I know it was a big deal when it crossed the seven, but I don't know.

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It's seven point something and I don't know what the point is now.

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Yeah.

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I think it's almost 7.7.

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Yeah.

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That makes sense.

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Yeah.

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Six is a little low.

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Yeah.

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But you know what?

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That comes from, I don't know, I feel like a lot of the time that population was a big

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deal, was around the time when it might have been around six.

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Yeah.

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You know, like a lot of the arguments about like-

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The 70s and 80s like, oh, population-

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Population bomb and stuff like that.

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Those arguments a lot of the times used six as like the stand in for...

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So I think a lot of people probably are just regurgitating stuff from those times.

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Sure.

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And that might be why it's sort of shorthand for the population.

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It could be.

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I hear people talking about like the Georgia Guidestones and stuff about how it's like

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key population to under half a billion or whatever.

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Right, right, right.

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And they talk about like, oh, you're going to kill off six, five and a half billion people.

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Yeah.

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I think that people are just, they've not updated their references.

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And normally I'm fine with that kind of thing, but this guy opens his broadcast saying he's

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going to give us all the numbers and all the facts and multiple times he does exactly what

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Alex does.

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Yeah, that's fair.

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I do hours of research.

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I do hours of research.

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I've looked into all of these numbers.

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On the tip of my tongue this morning, I looked into these numbers.

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You should probably get the population right.

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Yeah, you'd think.

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You would imagine that you saw that number at some point doing all your research.

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And then at the end he says, deaths aren't spiking.

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Makes it very clear.

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Yeah, we've talked about that a little bit.

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Yeah, yeah, yeah.

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This is his next clip.

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Immediately afterwards.

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Outside of a huge data dump on June 25th, thanks to the governor of New Jersey.

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Thank you so much, Mr. Murphy.

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Yeah, so deaths aren't spiking.

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Outside of-

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Outside of the data dump that we got showing that deaths are spiking.

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Thanks New Jersey.

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You're really ruining my fucking narrative.

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Well, I think the problem is that Phil Murphy, the governor of New Jersey, is now governor

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of half of the country.

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Exactly.

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As we learned from Alex.

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Yeah.

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So, that would explain why his data would be a data dump, because he's got to report

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for like 20 something states.

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He's responsible for a lot.

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Yeah.

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Absolutely.

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And he continues on.

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He just does this whole thing over and over and over again.

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Not a big deal.

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There's no problem.

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Now, I know there's a problem.

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Right.

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You know, there's-

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And I'm not going to diminish it.

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No, no, no.

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These are humans.

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But-

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Everybody's a joke.

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Yeah.

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It's not.

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It's nonstop.

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Like, okay.

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It's not a problem.

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I know it's a problem.

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Yeah.

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But it's not a problem.

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Now, I know that this five is a scary number.

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Sure.

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Because it seems so high.

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It's so big.

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Anyone ever told you about 30?

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Oh shit.

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Where do you even get 30?

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It's magic.

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Oh, goddamn.

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Goddamn.

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And most of this is just constant COVID denial.

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Right.

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This is what he says next.

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It's no different than previous years.

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Why is this relevant?

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Well, this is why.

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If COVID-19 is such a killer virus, then we would be seeing an increase in the sheer number

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of dead Americans compared to previous years.

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Right?

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Well, we're not.

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Well, I mean, that's just not true.

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Right?

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I mean, we've seen excess death numbers look pretty shocking, particularly in areas that

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are heavily affected with outbreaks.

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Up to as high as 40% excess deaths.

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Yeah.

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I know that the last time I tried to look into it, it's kind of difficult to find excess

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death numbers for a lot of the portions of the country, but New York had data that was

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reported in the Financial Times, and they also had an analysis of like tons of other

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countries that were showing massive jumps in terms of excess deaths.

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So whatever he's... I don't have any reason to believe him unless he can demonstrate that,

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because I've seen compelling evidence that there is, in fact, a lot more death happening.

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Oh, insane.

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Yeah.

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No one denies that except for people who just say there isn't.

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Yeah.

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Like, this is the... I know all the numbers.

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I don't know.

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At the same time, it's tough.

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Like, it would be hard for him to prove a negative, like him to prove that there aren't

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more deaths.

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He'd just have to deal with the things... Like, yeah, he'd have to deal with the sources that

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are saying that there are, and show why they're wrong.

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That's what I need him to do now, and he's not... I'm guessing he's not going to-

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He has no interest in doing that.

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What he does have interest in doing, and this I think is just wild, he follows that claim

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up that the deaths aren't spiking with this line.

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Are you listening, California residents, and the people of Illinois, and New Yorkers?

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You're being hoodwinked.

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You're being lied to.

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I got kind of distracted because I realized that he was talking to me.

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I live in Illinois.

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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I just like that he inadvertently admitted directly to our faces, you're being lied to.

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I'm lying to you.

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I just lied to you.

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I mean, it's just too on the nose.

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Yeah.

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It's too on the nose.

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Wow.

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Yeah.

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Come on.

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I know I'm being unfair about that.

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A little.

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I know I'm being unfair about that.

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I get it.

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You're being fair, but also unfair.

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You're right on that line.

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You're right on the line.

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Yeah.

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He's a dick.

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Sure.

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I'm not going to disagree with you there.

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I just don't like people just being like, that's not happening.

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Wake up.

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They're lying to you.

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Yeah.

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I mean, yeah.

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It's the same thing with Alex yelling, but wake up to people that he's trying to keep

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in basically a delusional coma.

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Yeah.

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Absolutely.

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It's just immensely annoying to me, and whenever they use the second person, that's whenever

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it's like, okay, now you're talking directly to me, telling me that they're doing the thing

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that you're literally doing in those words.

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And in the state that you're in.

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Exactly.

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I'm taking it personally.

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Sure.

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No one's lying to me.

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Nah.

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Except for you.

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Ledger, meet me at Portello's.

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We're going to solve this shit.

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I'm going to shove an Italian beef down your throat.

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I tell you, they got those good little... Eat a little cake, a little chocolate cake.

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Oh, you got a little cake?

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Put some Giardiniera on that cake.

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That's good stuff.

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And so he just keeps doing this.

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And then he gets into that kind of, it's just a constant back and forth with his next clip.

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You happen to have a loved one in a nursing home in any blue state, especially in New

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York.

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I would have gotten them the hell out of those facilities long ago, judging by what Andrew

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Cuomo did, which was to issue death sentences to thousands of elderly by forcing nursing

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homes to accept COVID-19 patients.

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Absolutely outrageous.

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4,500 COVID-19 patients dead after Cuomo's March 25 order.

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It is the highest rate of nursing home deaths in the country.

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Again, the numbers do not lie.

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That's just another Alex narrative.

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That's something we've seen Alex talk about a bit.

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I mean, there's also a presumption in there that is like, can you afford to care for whoever

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you have, your loved one is at home?

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Are you able to provide the specific kind of care if they have a condition that they

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need to be taken care of with?

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You probably can't.

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So he's telling people to do something they probably couldn't do, to avert something that

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isn't what Cuomo was doing.

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God damn.

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And he's doing it in the immediate like, no, it's no big deal.

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500,000 out of 6 billion, what do you even care about?

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Unless you're old, in which case this is terrifying and Cuomo is murdering you and this is the

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worst thing in the world.

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Like it's a nonstop.

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It drives me insane.

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You just keep bouncing back and forth.

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This is important, but this is not.

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This is important, but this is not.

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And it seems like there isn't really a coherent reason why one is and one isn't.

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Except for it's like, oh, this is useful to me.

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This isn't.

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Yeah, exactly.

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Yeah.

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This is, you know, nah, nobody's dying, don't worry about it.

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Everybody's dying in nursing homes because Cuomo's killing them.

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But I mean, really 4,500 out of what?

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We've got a hundred million old people in this world, 4,500 ain't no big deal.

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Unless you're in New York, in which case it's even more.

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Like it's, this isn't a big deal unless you're in a blue state and you happen to be somebody

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who is likely to be in my audience, then run.

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Yeah, exactly.

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And he does.

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So then the next thing he does is he starts talking to a clip of Governor Newsom.

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Okay.

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He does it the same, he does it Alex Jones-ian.

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And over on the left coast, pretty much the same thing.

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Just as bad, frankly, if not worse from the slick Marxist nutcase, Gavin Newsom.

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COVID-19 didn't take summer recess, didn't take the summer vacation.

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Stop tape, stop tape.

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I'm not a body language reader, but look at him.

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Look at him.

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His jaw is clenched.

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He's moving around rather nervous.

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He's mad.

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He's showing California residents and the rest of the world that he's mad.

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Mad.

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Yep.

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Oh, yeah.

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You know, like a lot of people do that.

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A lot of people say like, stop, you know, because, you know, sometimes you're on the

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fly with the production staff.

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Sure.

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I think Alex does it in a way that's more fun or more interesting at least because he's

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pretending to be like so emotionally affected by whatever.

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He adds more showmanship to it than that.

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Totally.

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That was very clunky.

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Now, my notes on that are, you're so disappointing.

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This, if Governor Newsom is a demon, he's not just mad.

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What are you doing?

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Yeah, you were so close there with that Marxist, you know, you're getting there.

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You're getting there, man.

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That's what I'm saying.

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Yeah.

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Talk about how he wants blood.

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Exactly.

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Yeah.

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They don't have a slugger.

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They're just hitting singles.

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It's pathetic.

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Yep.

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I hate it.

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And then he goes into this whole thing and he points out that cases are spiking and that

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Newsom is trying to close down the bars and he's doing all this shit to try and keep young

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people from spreading the virus.

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And it's spreading mostly among young people, which the governor is trying to punish here

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right now.

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It's what we call herd immunity because we know that younger people, the demographic

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of somewhere in the neighborhood of zero to 20 to 30 years old has almost a zero mortality

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rate.

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Many of these young people are running around asymptomatic and many of them contract the

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virus but have no antibodies because their body fought it off to the degree that there's

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no antibodies showing up in the blood work.

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Isn't that amazing?

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But I've got my brow furrowed.

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Yeah, you do.

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Uh-huh.

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I can see some confusion on your face.

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What's confusing there?

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Well, if your body fought it off successfully, that would lead to antibodies.

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Yes.

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Because that would...

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Unless you fight it off so successfully.

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I don't even understand what he's saying.

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Too successfully.

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I don't understand what he's saying.

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No.

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If you fight it off really good, you can't even find antibodies.

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Right.

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Okay.

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All right.

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Fine.

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I got to go, man.

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Yeah.

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I got to...

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Right.

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I don't know what's going on anymore.

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I don't even know the ideas that are attempting to be expressed here, quite frankly.

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Uh-uh.

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And I mean, I guess there's a way to make this coherent on some level.

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Yeah.

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I mean, it'd be bad and I wouldn't support this but if he was going around to being like,

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yeah, okay, people who are younger have a less likelihood of dying, granted, some are

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still going to die, but like, hey, let's let all these young people go out to bars and

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all this stuff and they'll get it and it won't be as bad of cases.

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But at the same time, what we'll have to do is make sure that nobody who is immunocompromised

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or has a preexisting condition or is over the age of 40 something can go to work.

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Yeah.

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You'd be like, let's isolate all of the people who could be hurt by this in order for you

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to be able to go to Dick's Last Resort.

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Yep.

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Or why is that the name that came to my mind?

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I have no idea.

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You know what?

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Honestly, I was going to say Ed DeBevick's, but that's not a bar necessarily.

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It's just a restaurant here in Chicago where people yell at you.

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Where they insult you.

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Yeah.

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And that's, I think, what Dick's Last Resort is too.

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They insult you there.

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Oh, yeah?

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I think so.

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Okay.

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I've never been to Dick's Last Resort.

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I've never seen the sign downtown in Chicago when I was walking over a bridge and seen

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it.

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And it was like, get on in here, douchebag.

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No, I've heard people talk about it and I think that's what that is.

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I could come up with a better bar.

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All right.

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We're going.

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I could have gone with anything.

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Dick's Last Resort.

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Damn it.

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That's what we're doing.

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Cabo Wabo.

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That's at least named after an alcohol.

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No 20-year-old's going to Cabo Wabo?

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Shit.

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And he does this knowing full well, he's talking about the mortality rate, but he even literally

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writes it down.

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Many of the young people are running around asymptomatic.

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All right?

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How can you tell me, like, oh man, all of these old people in nursing homes are dying

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all the time and it's the single worst thing in the world.

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But we should definitely let their kids run around asymptomatic and then, I don't know,

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visit them.

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Sure.

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Asymptomatic versus pre-symptomatic too.

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It's unclear at any point where you are, if you are going to develop symptoms eventually

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or if you are going to be truly asymptomatic through the course of your illness.

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Yeah.

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I mean, what he's saying is just dangerous.

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It just seems stupid.

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Unless you want to, like I said, fully reorder society in a way to isolate people just so

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kids could go to bars or whatever.

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Kids gotta go to bars.

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You should still maybe wear a mask at the bar.

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Now, what you should realize though is that Governor Newsom is punishing you for going

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out to a bar, Dan.

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It's the worst thing in the world.

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Amazing.

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But the governor, yes, while he's shooting himself in the foot, he also realizes that

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he's continuing to strangle the economy.

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His little piece of the US economy, which harms the reelection chances of Donald Trump.

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So he's still at it and he's still going to be at it straight through November, strangling

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his economy as much as possible in order to harm the reelection chances of Donald Trump.

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This guy is boring as hell.

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I know, right?

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That's what I'm saying.

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That's why Stone is the only foothold.

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There is a fucking reason why I have not been able to find a grip on this network.

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So just listen to this and be like, fuck it, who cares?

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And he's doing it like, it doesn't get more globalist kind of nonsense whenever you're

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saying, okay, so yeah, the governor is shooting himself in the foot.

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Oh, by the way, his little part of the US economy, little part of California's economy.

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The what?

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Top 25 GDPs in the world?

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Something like that.

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But also at the same time, Newsom is doing this on purpose in order to hurt Donald Trump's

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reelection chances.

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And I would stand to reason that if that is the case, then that also hurts Gavin Newsom's

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reelection chances.

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You would think.

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Because if he completely torpedoes California's economy, California probably isn't going to

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be like, hey, let's keep this guy around.

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Yeah, no kidding, right?

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Huh.

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Think about that one, you dumb ledger.

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Here's the bigger part though, all right?

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At no point in time does he say Trump could do something about that.

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He's the president.

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So if Governor Newsom is destroying his own economy, Trump could literally be like, hey,

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here's money.

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We've got a new support package.

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And then the economy doesn't crash.

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Can't do it.

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States' rights.

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Like, Trump could solve that problem if he wanted to.

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Well, I mean, cash injections would help cushion things considerably.

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In terms of like making sure that local businesses don't have to close, making sure people don't

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end up experiencing homelessness, that sort of, yeah, there's a number of things that

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it would just be policy decisions that could be made from Washington.

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But they're against big government, they're against that stuff, so that can't even be

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entertained as a possible solution.

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No, no, no, no.

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Of course not.

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Their subset of beliefs doesn't have a real answer.

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No, because the answer is obvious and they don't want to do it.

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Yep.

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Because they'll blame other people for not doing the thing that they could do easily.

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Yeah.

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And it's all an attack to try and hurt Trump.

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You got it.

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Everything is, everything is.

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This is all like just poorly delivered Infowars talking points.

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There you go.

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This is all just like the same, like I'm listening to this and I'm just like, yep, ding, ding.

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I've got bingo a couple of times already.

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Oh yeah.

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Oh yeah.

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It's disappointing.

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Yep.

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No, no, no.

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I'm not the guy doing this.

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I wasn't blaming you.

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I wasn't blaming you.

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I'm disappointed in the world.

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I'm disappointed that there's another one of these.

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Yeah.

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But you know what?

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That leads me to believe that there's a really decent chance that eventually someone with

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chops will end up there.

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Yeah.

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Right?

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I mean, you got to think if the president is like retweeting their shit and like talking

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about, oh, do a great network, all this stuff, you got to assume that some enterprising grifter

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who has chops is going to end up there.

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The problem I see is that like a lot of the people who seem to have like a lot of the

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skills as younger set, they seem to gravitate towards harder extremism than could be molded

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or fit into that slot.

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You need somebody who's a sellout and good and someone like Nick Fuentes would be dangerous

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as fuck at OAN or something like that, but he's far too extreme and couldn't do it.

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You need like a sellout, like a harder sellout version of Fuentes in there and then it's

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game over.

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That would be devastating.

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Do you know what my suspicion on that is?

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What's that?

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The hard, like those guys who are talented now, they stay on the internet.

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They're not going to want American Newsnet.

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They're not looking for a co-anchor job.

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Yeah.

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They have an ability to create their own like space to an extent.

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And because that's part of the darkest part of the internet, that creates that more radicalizing

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situation.

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There aren't editors and bosses telling you, hey man-

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Tone it down.

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Exactly.

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You can't.

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Yeah, yeah, yeah.

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And so he continues with the Governor Newsom little speech.

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He's pissed off about the whole thing.

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Can't let Governor Newsom talk.

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Hasn't gone away.

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I know a lot of us thought, well, can't get them to get warm.

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Once it gets hot, it all goes away.

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Got tape.

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Now.

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All right.

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Now, on this next, he's stopping the tape.

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What do you think he's going to say?

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All right.

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It's just not hot enough.

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If it's hotter, then the virus would go away, which is why global warming is good.

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Because you know, hey, the global temperature rises three degrees, virus can't survive in

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that temperature.

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That's true.

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Is that what he does?

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Really close.

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You know, I checked the numbers.

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This is my job now.

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I look at this data every day, and it's interesting when you look at El Salvador, and you look

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at the Philippines, and you look at Thailand, and you look at Vietnam, all those areas have

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warm weather, right?

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And high humidity, high temperature, high humidity combination.

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Their cases are in the hundreds.

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Go look for yourself.

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I'm sold.

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See?

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He named four countries.

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Sure.

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Are those the only high temperature, high humidity countries?

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Are we sure we're not selecting for some other variable?

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Are you seeing a problem with that logic there?

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Yeah, I mean, obviously, yeah.

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It's just like, oh, oh, okay.

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So you're saying that heat doesn't kill the virus.

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Really?

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Look at El Salvador, one place where I know it's hot.

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It can be hot anywhere.

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No more virus if it's summer.

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All right.

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Yeah, that's bad.

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I mean, but that's just transparently bad.

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That's like, honestly, I'm not saying this to shit on you doing this episode, but it's

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more experiential.

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It's like, I'm listening to this, and I'm not even interested in this guy's bullshit.

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That's what I'm for, though.

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It's so boring.

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You're not interested in Mark Moreno's bullshit.

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No.

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You're not interested in Robert Jeffers' bullshit.

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I bring these people to you so we can never speak of them again.

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Jeffers was at least a little bit more intriguing in terms of some of those dynamics.

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This guy is just like a junior varsity Alex without anything that really makes me gravitate

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towards him being interesting or even scary.

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I mean, it's just somebody who's shit, kind of.

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You got it.

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But in such a way that is like, I find it... It's dangerous.

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Don't get me wrong.

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Yeah, yeah, yeah.

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I don't mean to minimize that.

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No, no, of course.

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I think that he is somebody who probably deserves some attention from a critical perspective,

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but in terms of being interesting, which is something that I need in order to keep doing

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something.

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Yes, yeah, yeah, yeah.

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He fails.

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That's why we only do one episode on him.

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Oof.

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Let this be a performance review, Graham.

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I have spent three plus years paying attention to Alex Jones, and I get down about it from

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time to time.

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And yeah, certainly I hate him.

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But I've listened to maybe three minutes of you, and I want to stop.

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You suck.

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Basically.

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Yep.

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Yep.

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And yeah, he continues on.

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They're counting them in the hundreds.

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Vietnam has zero.

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Zero deaths.

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Now, I don't know how good their accounting is, and certainly they're not doing the widespread

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testing that we're doing.

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But the bottom line is, yes, as the weather gets warmer, as the humidity rises, it helps

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beat back the transmission, the spread of a virus, something this guy will not admit.

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I love it when somebody says the bottom line is something right after using a couple of

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examples of why there isn't the bottom line.

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No.

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Sure, they're not doing any testing, but they've got zero deaths, Dan.

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I don't know how good their accounting is, but I can trust their zero death counts.

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I just lost this match against you, right?

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And I did tap out, and you beat me fair and square, and that's all great.

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But I'm going to kick your ass, and that's the bottom line, because Stone Cold said so.

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Yep.

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That's not the bottom line.

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You just lost.

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Yeah.

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Okay, look, Vietnam, yes.

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I don't know if they're counting people.

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Sure.

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They might not be.

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That's possible.

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They're certainly not doing as much testing as they need to do.

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Why would you?

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But the bottom line is, okay, fuck off, linguistically.

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If you have trouble with that sentence, if you're a viewer and you're watching that,

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you're like, yes, makes sense.

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The problem is not him.

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The problem isn't Graham.

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The problem is sentence comprehension.

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Yeah, right?

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That's troubling.

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That's real bad.

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Yeah.

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The interesting thing is, this is something that I was expecting to look into and be like,

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what an idiot.

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You're telling me that humidity stops viruses from transmitting.

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That's insane.

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I looked it up and there is a little bit of evidence that it's maybe possible that seasonal

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changes could affect the spread of the virus.

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Oh, sure.

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Yeah, there is some scientific backing to that, to the extent that you can count on

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it being the case for every virus or illness is debatable.

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The extent to which it even is relevant to discuss is like, oh, this will help.

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You can't bank on it, but obviously there are environmental differences.

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Totally.

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And from the NIH director's blog, as far as that goes, because I looked into it and I

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was like, oh, maybe there is something to this.

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So I looked further into it and the researchers at the NIH ran three different scenarios based

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on the role of climate in the spread of other viruses, like OC43 and HKU1 that are known

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to cause common colds.

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In all three scenarios, their model showed that climate only would become an important

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seasonal factor in controlling COVID-19 once a large proportion of people within a given

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community are immune.

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Right now, before that time period, because SARS-CoV-2 is as sensitive to climate as other

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seasonal viruses, summer heat still wouldn't be enough to mitigate the spread through anything.

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That makes some sense.

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Exactly.

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So it could have an incremental effect, but it probably isn't worth even talking about

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in terms of like, oh, once it gets warm, we'll be good.

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Yeah, yeah, yeah.

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And if you would like to go back to how El Salvador and Vietnam have wonderful climates

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and everything.

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Vietnam isn't counting people, they're not testing anybody.

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Well, there are other places with warm climates like Brazil, Ecuador, all of which are exploding.

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There's that whole thing about it not always being summer when it's summer here, because

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other parts of the world have different seasons.

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He's in San Diego.

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He doesn't know about it.

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He's a San Diego guy.

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He's a San Diego guy.

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Right.

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Come on now.

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Yeah.

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Yeah, I mean, from what I understand about Brazil, it's a dry heat, very dry in the Amazon.

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That's what people are known for in Brazil.

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The Brazilian dry forests.

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So very, so very good.

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He continues on, though.

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He powers through all of this terrible nonsense.

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What's the opposite of saying you've got to respect that?

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Probably what he says next.

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We have to sober up to this reality.

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This is getting back to Newsom's claim.

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We're still in the first wave.

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We're not in a second wave.

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We're still in the first wave.

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Stop saying that.

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This is exactly my point.

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We are still in the first wave.

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Good point.

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This is the wave that all you did was kind of slow down, and then you unleashed it when

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you said, oh, we're going to start opening up again.

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He had to open up.

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If he had it his way, he would have kept the California economy shut down straight through

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November in order to hammer President Trump, but he had to.

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I'm honestly lost in terms of how that's supposed to help the right wing argument.

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If I'm tracking this correctly, he's saying that there is a first wave that happened,

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and all the mitigation measures like distancing, mask-wearing, closing businesses, all that

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did is successfully hold back cases from exploding, which was the stated goal that everybody was

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discussing at the time, and they had to reopen things because there was a ton of pressure

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and that is what is now no longer being held back, and so the first wave is now resurging.

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You just take a slightly different approach to this, and he sounds like...

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Like he's advocating for the shutdown again, and somehow he's saying that like it's a...

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Oh, see, what happened was we shut down the economy to slow the rate of cases, and then

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the guy I support forced us to open again, and surprise, because we didn't shut down

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long enough, which is what Governor Newsom wanted to do, by the way, then we have a bunch

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of cases, and that's Governor Newsom's fault.

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Yep.

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I don't understand anybody listening to this and thinking like, fuck yeah, this guy.

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Yep.

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Let alone the fucking president.

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I know, right?

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That's what is...

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This was what passes for brilliant analysis.

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And he's...

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So what is he prescribing then?

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Exactly.

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Because the implications of that clip are to be understood, then had nothing been done

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earlier, the hospitals would all have been overwhelmed.

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It would have been a disaster.

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You got it.

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A humanitarian disaster.

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Right.

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Tons and tons of cases everywhere, a lot of death.

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So obviously that's not what he's advocating.

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Right.

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So he does recognize that the measures worked.

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Oh, exactly.

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Or they were effective.

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Oh, yeah.

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But he refuses to wear a mask.

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Great.

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Yeah.

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We'll get to that later.

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He can't really be saying that the businesses shouldn't have been shut down, because that's

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part of the thing that helped that nightmarish result not come into play.

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He can't be saying that businesses should have reopened, because he's saying that that

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is what's leading to this rising number of cases now.

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Correct.

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He can't be saying that businesses should be re-closed.

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No, because that'll hurt the economy.

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Exactly.

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And ruin Trump's re-election.

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What does he want?

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I don't honestly see what he wants other than to assign blame and pretend like everything

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is an attack on his hero.

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I don't understand how there's any even semblance of this being productive.

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No.

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This entire thing, like I said, is him saying one thing, immediately discounting it, and

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then just continuing on like he proved what he was trying to say.

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Yeah.

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I hate to say this, he's more confusing than Alex.

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Yeah, he's insane.

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Yeah.

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This is nonsense.

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I don't understand any of this.

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And he does not give a fuck.

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So Americans in all states, from Texas to Florida, California, you have a choice.

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You can listen to the mainstream media breathlessly misreport the spread of COVID-19, or you can

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do your homework like I do, day in and day out.

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The truth about COVID-19 lies in the data, and the truth is, corona is not the lethal

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threat to the vast majority of the American population.

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So there you go.

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It doesn't matter.

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It doesn't mean anything.

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Now, sure, there are 120,000 dead, but compared to 6 billion, Dan, that's practically none.

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That's a gigantic number, that's 6 billion.

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Yeah.

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You gotta really sit back and think about it from time to time.

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Here's another way-

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Big, big number.

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Here's another way we can look at that argument, all right?

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So according to the FBI statistics, there are about 16,000 murders per year, and cops

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only solve and don't really prevent about 47% of those on average.

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Yeah, give or take, yeah.

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Right.

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So that means that the threat to America is practically nothing.

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Basically.

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16,000 compared to-

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100,000?

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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Just from COVID cases.

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That's nothing.

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Yeah.

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That's nothing.

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So we can finally get rid of police.

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Oh, yeah.

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His argument is perfect.

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Yeah.

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If you use his- Yeah, his bullshit logic.

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The goalposts that he's set up for himself.

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Exactly.

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God, what else could we get rid of?

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Just about everything.

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Mm-hmm.

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Yeah.

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Exactly.

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It's nuts.

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And anybody knows that a functioning society cares, even if it's not a threat to everyone.

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You should.

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Right?

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Yeah.

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That seems simple.

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Yeah.

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And he is telling you-

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That's the idea of public health.

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Right.

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And obviously, we get to the main events.

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We get to our boy, Roger Stone.

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Here's his introduction.

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Joining me now from Fort Lauderdale, Florida, political consultant, lobbyist, strategist,

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and former Trump surrogate, Roger Stone.

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Roger, they attack Trump as a racist because they are deathly afraid that he is going to

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pick up a larger percentage of the black vote come November.

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And they attack you, and they have attacked you because you are a proxy for President

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Trump.

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Graham, where are the laptops?

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Graham.

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Where's the list, Graham?

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Turns out he also ran Graham's run for the school board.

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He's a smart drive system.

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For Sandia Guido.

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Yeah.

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Yeah, yeah, yeah.

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Roger Stone has his figure in every single person's campaign.

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Every pie.

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And Graham stole laptops from him at the time.

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I just love the... That was a complete non-sequitur, by the way.

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What?

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The, they want to call Trump a racist because he's going to... They never speak of racism

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again.

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Of course not.

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They never speak of any of that ever again.

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It's just a good way to frame things.

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Yeah.

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You just start there.

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Yeah.

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That's how he introduces Stone.

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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I mean, I think it probably is also great, just solid analysis that people call Trump

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a racist because they're afraid it's going to win more of the black vote.

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Totally.

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Oh, yeah.

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It seems likely.

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No, we're terrified of that.

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That's why we got a lie about it.

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Did you check in how he's polling?

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With the black vote?

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Yeah.

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We are down to 6%, Dan.

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Great.

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Cool.

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Yeah.

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I think you can just call him a racist regardless of who votes for him or doesn't.

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Yeah, you don't need to worry about it.

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No, that's because he is a thing.

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You bet.

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Yeah.

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That's where Stone begins to beg, beg, beg.

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For President Trump.

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And I think that we owe you some qualified congratulations, although they're very deeply

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qualified.

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You're going to prison.

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The judge in your case, this Amy Berman Jackson, more on her in a moment, delayed your surrender

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date to jail until July 14th.

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It's only a couple of weeks, Roger.

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You have a lot more work to do between now and then because this doesn't quite cut it,

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does it?

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No, exactly.

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Great.

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Does not cut it.

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That's what I was thinking.

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It does not quite cut it.

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So far going on Alex's show and OAN.

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And some QAnon and web broadcasts apparently.

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That's not cutting it.

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No.

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You got a lot more work to do, but we have qualified congratulations for getting two

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weeks off.

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Uh-huh.

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Yeah.

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But he was trying to get a further...

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60 days.

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Yeah, yeah.

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He didn't get 60 days.

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No.

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So that is a qualified, heavily qualified congratulations.

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Oh, yeah.

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Great.

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Yep.

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So Stone is going to get to work.

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This is where he's going to start begging.

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He knows what to do.

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Oh, yeah.

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The Democrat majority in the House are concerned about the dangers of COVID-19 virus, but at

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the same time, they support my being sent to a prison facility in Georgia where the

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danger of COVID-19 virus infection in my case, given that I'm 67 years old and have a history

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of asthma, is extraordinarily high.

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This is a really good play on his part because it is something that's real.

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It's based in...

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It's based...

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I mean, I don't trust him, but it would make more sense or I'd care more about it if he

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was circulating and making this appeal on networks that, first of all, took COVID seriously

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and secondly, hadn't been screaming about them releasing murderers into the streets

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because of COVID-19.

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Got it.

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So it rings hollow to me when you have Roger Stone pleading to not go to probably a very

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lush prison environment, minimum security type situation.

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Oh, very minimum.

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And like I said, from the reporting that I've seen no cases of COVID-19 at that facility,

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I would take it more seriously if it wasn't being distributed by people who have tried

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to fear bait about not letting people out of prison based on these very same concerns.

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It's discordant.

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I don't appreciate it.

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Yeah, no, it's cognitive dissonance.

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And he's doing this on a show where just five minutes earlier, the guy said, well, we should

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let young people out all the time.

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Sure, they're asymptomatic and maybe they'll transmit the virus, but they don't know anybody

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like Roger Stone, somebody who's 65 with a history of asthma and shit like that, who

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is also at the most dangerous risk from the COVID-19.

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How does Graham not know that somebody who went to one of these bars when he's 20 year

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old is going to get into a fight, stab someone with a broken bottle, that makes end up Roger's

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cellmate, give him a COVID-19 from going to the bars.

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I've just made a compelling argument for why Graham should recant his position.

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I think you just wrote Con Air too.

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And I love it.

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It'd be great.

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It would be fantastic.

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I really wish that instead of these people doing this desperate self-contradictory nonsense,

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I wish that fucking Roger Stone just leaned into it hard and went around on all these

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shows and was like, all right, here's why I'm on.

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I'm putting together a dirty dozen.

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We're breaking out.

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Exactly.

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Look, there's no convincing Amy Berman Jackson to not put me in prison.

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So what I'm doing is I'm putting together a team to break me out.

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Like why not just do that ahead of time?

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Yeah, yeah, yeah.

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Who's going to do anything about it?

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Yeah.

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All right.

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We need an explosives guy.

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We need a face man.

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We need somebody who's really good at picking locks.

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He's just going on shows and he's like recruiting the host.

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He's like, hey, how are you doing with explosives?

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No, you don't want Graham.

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Graham.

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Maybe one of your listeners.

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Maybe one of your listeners knows something.

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Apparently Graham can't be the face man.

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Somebody's got to know how to ride a motorcycle.

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Exactly.

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It's not Graham.

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We need a getaway guy.

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We need a decoy getaway guy.

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Graham, you could be a decoy getaway guy.

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You could be the guy who leads the police on a wild goose chase.

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Why the fuck not?

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Make this interesting, Roger.

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You're going to just fucking lead it.

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Make the rest of your life a parody.

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Yeah.

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Yeah, yeah, yeah.

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That's how you could have penance.

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No, it still wouldn't work.

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It still...

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Go straight up super villain.

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Why not?

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Yeah.

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You've lived your life in secret.

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Yeah.

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You're a silly super villain.

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Totally.

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Yeah.

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I demand amusement.

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We build a laser to break out of this prison.

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Exactly.

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Who's with me?

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Exactly.

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Come up with some nonsensical plan and air that plan on these shows that you go and do

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interviews on.

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God damn it.

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I demand you amuse me, Roger.

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That's what he's for.

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Yeah.

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And he's one of the few people who could do it.

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Yeah, totally.

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That's the thing.

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Totally.

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He's credible as the guy who wants to build a laser to break out of prison.

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Right.

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And he's in a position where he's about to go to prison.

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In a way, it's your responsibility.

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No one else is ever going to be in this position where you may be meddled with an election

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and now you're going to prison and you're desperate to get your guy to fucking give

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you a pardon that he hasn't given you yet, but he still might.

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So why not cover your bases and get a super villain team together?

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Go to town.

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Go to town.

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I'm begging you, Roger.

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Much like you're begging Trump, I'm begging you, Roger.

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If you can, you know, things that need to exist just to exist.

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And Stone has a moral responsibility to fulfill his purpose.

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We need a guy with a bulldozer.

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Let's get Elon Musk.

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He builds tunnels.

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But hold on real quick before we continue this meeting.

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No one can wear masks while we break me out.

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That's the rule.

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I'm sorry, guys.

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Yeah.

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That is the one rule.

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The big guy stands up and just walks out.

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All right.

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We're going to need new muscle.

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All right.

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God, it pisses me off.

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Yeah.

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Fucking lean into it, Roger.

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Do better.

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Oh, yeah.

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And, like, this guy's show is pathetic.

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Why wouldn't Roger at least want to amuse himself by pretending he's putting together

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a super villain team?

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That's a really good point.

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That's a really good point.

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He made a joke out of that entire deposition with Larry Klayman.

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Why not just turn this into a farce?

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Well, because he thinks he might actually go to prison.

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Yeah, that's fair enough.

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That's a big difference.

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See, that's what needs to happen.

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Trump needs to send him a quiet message of, like, don't worry about it.

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You're getting a pardon on July 13th.

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Everything's cool.

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If.

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Go hard.

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If.

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If you go hard.

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Pretend that you're creating a super villain team to break you out of the joint.

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I have a lot of bad press on me.

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Guess what would help with that?

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You, Mr. Penguin.

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Get out of here.

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If I could pardon Roger, I would pardon him if he didn't.

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Yes.

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It's transactional.

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For the value of entertainment that would come from it.

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Actually, in the real world, it would probably be dangerous because people would probably

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end up trying to blow up prisons or something.

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Yeah, that's true.

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That's true.

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In a movie, it's funny, but in the real world, it probably would get way out of hand.

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Yeah, Heath Ledger's Joker did blow up that hospital, so.

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True.

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That would be bad in real life.

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I wouldn't like that.

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Yup.

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Uh oh, but Stone continues on, and it's always not his fault.

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Guess who's our villain this time?

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Wait, do I actually get to guess?

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Yeah.

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Okay.

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Uh.

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Uh.

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Uh.

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Uh.

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Uh.

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Nope.

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Right back to Judge Jackson.

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We made a motion before Judge Jackson based on the Department of Justice and the US Bureau

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of Prisons policy of moving nonviolent, high risk prisoners from prison to home confinement

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rather than incarceration.

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The judge ignored those arguments entirely, postponed my surrender date by a mere two

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weeks.

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Okay.

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Yup.

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I'm sorry Judge Jackson.

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I have that thought every time.

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You've been doing that.

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I've been doing that in my head every time I think of Roger Stone.

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I'm sorry, Judge Jackson?

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Ooh.

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Oh, man.

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Yeah.

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I'm sorry, Judge Jackson.

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I mean, this does come into that sort of weird in between place where it's like, yeah, I

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can't really argue with the bottom line point that he's making, I just don't think it applies

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to him.

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Right.

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Well, that's the thing.

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I don't, the thing that got me about that, because normally I wouldn't even bother to

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cut that clip.

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He's just doing the whole thing.

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But I hate the way that they always get to frame it.

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They always let him frame it as Judge Jackson ignored my concerns.

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She did not ignore his concerns.

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She wrote a five page opinion on his concerns, having carefully looked over them.

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And even by all accounts, beyond fair.

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Like I was reading the decision and there's a couple really good things that she gets

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in there.

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While the defendant correctly observes that other courts in this district have granted

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extensions in other cases, neither of those defendants was convicted of threatening anyone

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and there is no indication that either failed to abide by conditions of release at any time.

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By contrast, Mr. Stone was convicted of threatening a witness and throughout the course of these

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criminal proceedings, the court has been forced to address his repeated attempts to intimidate

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and to stoke potentially violent sentiment against an array of participants in this case.

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Including individuals involved in the investigation, jurors, and the court.

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I remember those times.

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Yeah, Roger.

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You're going in there because you threatened to hurt the judge and put out a million, and

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were there.

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And it was the credit code.

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Like the whole thing.

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But here's my favorite one.

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The defendant's response to the court's inquiry concerning his personal preventative practices

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and avoidance of public gatherings in accordance with these directives was vague, carefully

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parsed, and not reassuring.

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Jackson said.

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So he's still been going to TGI Fridays?

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You got it, yes.

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She's literally like, honestly, you're more dangerous to yourself outside of prison.

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You idiot.

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You're going to end up at a fucking rally, the no mask rally with Alex if you don't go

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to prison.

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Exactly.

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You're going to end up in his fucking life.

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Yeah, perhaps.

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Yeah.

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Yeah, it just, it falls on deaf ears for me.

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I mean, at the same time, if there were some sort of a house arrest kind of thing until

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things calmed down, and Roger did get that, I wouldn't be hopping mad about he escaped

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justice.

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Like if there was something where he was still going to get whatever punishment societies

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deemed necessary, and it was just delayed for safety measures, I wouldn't be mad about

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that.

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But I'm mad the way he's weaponizing a legitimate concern for his own selfish purpose.

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Exactly.

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Because I don't see him or anybody who he associates with who have platforms advocating

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for people being released over health concerns.

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And because of that, this seems just hollow.

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It seems false.

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And I don't care.

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Yeah.

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Bullshit.

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Yeah.

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And here's where we get him praying to Trump.

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I am praying to the president on humanitarian grounds to grant either a commutation or sentence

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or a pardon.

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Otherwise, in all honesty, I think there's a high probability that I would die in a federal

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prison prior to my appeal being heard.

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Now, I want my appeal to be heard.

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Oh, sure you do.

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Oh, of course.

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Of course.

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Yeah.

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Loves praying to Trump.

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It's the exact same message, too, that sort of the mysterious Schrodinger's appeal.

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Yep.

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Yep.

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It is weird that he is now on two platforms that we've seen saying he's praying to Trump.

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Yeah.

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That means it isn't a slip.

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No.

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I had to cut that.

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Yeah.

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He's praying to Trump.

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Yeah.

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He's being very clear about that.

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That's weird.

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Yeah.

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Yep.

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Probably should offend very religious people.

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You would think.

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Yeah.

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You would think.

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You would think to immediately break those big rules.

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Yeah.

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Should probably offend Alex, too.

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Yeah.

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Oh, well.

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They don't really bother with that too much.

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Seems like they might not.

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Yep.

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And then this is our last clip right here.

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He's going... Graham Ledger now is talking to Stone.

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Sorry, Graham Ledger.

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Ooh.

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Can't not do it.

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Stone is for real.

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Go into a prison cell for sure.

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That wasn't that good.

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You get five points.

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You're too generous.

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You get five points.

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Make it four.

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All right.

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I will give you four.

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All right.

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Out of a hundred.

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It's worse than the...

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Six billion.

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It's worse than that cucumber mint.

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Fair enough.

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And then finally, this is how it ends.

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Or this is when... This is the last time he says anything interesting.

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He pulls a tweet up and puts it on the screen.

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Graham Ledger does, and this is what they're talking about.

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Once.

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There's a petition out there, Roger, to try and get you pardoned, as you mentioned, by

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the President of the United States.

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This Laurie Hendry made a post on Twitter.

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And then significant... I don't know who Laurie is.

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Maybe I should.

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But significantly, President Trump retweeted her tweet.

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Now, I don't talk a lot about tweets on this program, but I think that that is significant.

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Don't you?

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I mean, it would be in his interest to think it is.

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Why don't you know about who this person is?

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That's why... Because I was like, why are you putting a tweet up from a random person

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just being like, I don't know who this Laurie is?

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I do hours of research every morning for this show.

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This guy does his homework.

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I work on this show every morning, and nobody at all told me five minutes before to just

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look it up on Twitter real quick.

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I will say that that is bad on his part, but it's not a sin that's unique to these right

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wing ding dogs.

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No, no, no, no.

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There's news outlets that rely on social media farming for like, oh, this tweet says blank.

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They do not do looking into who the accounts say.

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Not interested.

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Yeah.

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So that is more a universal problem of integrating news and social media together, but yeah,

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fuck him.

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That's stupid.

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And the tweet that he's talking about is, Laurie Hendry.

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I looked into it.

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It's a real Twitter account.

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I was hoping it was a Phil Hendry character.

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I was hoping it was a Phil Hartman character.

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And he's actually still alive.

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That would have been my goal.

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He's our JFK Jr.

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He is our JFK Jr.

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But yeah, she's a conservative Twitter that's apparently a real person, but it's essentially

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all bots.

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Right.

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Like she's got 300,000 followers or something, and the company Vinesite, along with NBC News,

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looked into it, and more than half of all of her retweets and shit like that are direct

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bot behavior.

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Yeah.

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So she's just made up.

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She's a complete creation.

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You know?

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Yeah.

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Trying to get that petition out there to get Roger a nice little pardon.

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Why would Trump?

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That's the thing.

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All right.

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You're telling me that Trump retweeted a petition to get Trump to do the thing that he could

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do- That seems weird.

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At any point in time.

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Yeah.

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To get a petition- Just do it.

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Sign up list for the dirty dozen.

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That's what you retweet.

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That's what we're in for.

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Yeah.

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That's what we're in for.

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He has two weeks.

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This is a movie.

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This is a fucking movie.

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Oh, this is a Brewster's million situation.

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He has a time limit.

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There's two weeks to get together, a team of the baddest dudes, and chicks you can find.

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Totally.

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Montage.

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Exactly.

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This is a two week montage.

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A lot of people not making the cut.

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A lot of people not being able to climb over that wall that everybody has to climb over

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montages.

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Maybe one surprising recruit who looks like he's fucking screwed and never going to make

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it ends up surprising everyone.

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Here's the other thing.

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I would get John Gabrus to play that guy because he's a big dude, but he also is pretty spry

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on his feet, so you end up being really surprising that this big guy can move.

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Right.

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That's what I would do.

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All right.

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I like that.

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Here's my pitch for you.

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This is Ross Perot, all right?

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Because Ross Perot-

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It's Ross Perot?

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Oh, yeah.

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Okay.

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Because Ross Perot famously trained some people to get prisoners of war out of a prison, so

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he's already got the experience.

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Is he alive?

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He's our Charles Xavier.

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Is he alive?

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I don't care if he's alive.

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Okay.

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We got to get his ghost.

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Okay.

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Then let's get Ron Paul and everybody.

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Oh, yes.

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All those people who are involved in trying to take over Dominica.

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Totally.

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Yeah.

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Totally.

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And who's going to be delivering the hard rice, Dan?

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Well, Larry.

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Larry Nichols.

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Larry Nichols, of course.

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I love this movie.

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Yeah.

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I'm really excited about this.

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Then?

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Then?

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Okay.

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I don't know how this works.

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We've got to fit in Alex somehow, and the only way I can think of is Robin Williams'

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character in Good Morning Vietnam.

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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He's sort of a radio guy who's-

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Yeah.

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Getting the truth out.

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Yeah, but you don't really need that because it's only a team of 12 people.

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Well, here's what we got then.

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All right.

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Who's doing recon?

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Who's in the shadows?

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Who's in the bushes?

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Well, Rapid Park first.

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Absolutely.

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But I figured out a role for Alex.

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Okay.

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What's Alex's job?

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What has he played in every movie he's ever been in?

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The Street Preacher, Screaming Nonsense?

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You bet.

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Okay.

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So he's the diversion.

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Yes.

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Yes.

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Alex is with a bullhorn on a street corner somewhere.

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Totally.

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Maybe like a-

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Hey, prison guards.

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Yeah.

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50 cents off lunch.

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Yeah.

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Exactly.

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Exactly.

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Alex is drawing everyone's attention away.

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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While Larry Nichols wheezes and everybody else-

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Hey, could you let me into the prison?

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I need to use the bathroom.

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Then Elon Musk comes out of nowhere.

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Sure.

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Sure.

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Starts digging a hole.

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Okay.

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All right.

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He has the boring company.

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You know, they bore the holes.

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Right.

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Right.

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Right.

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Sure.

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You get in there and that is also a diversion.

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Yeah.

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The dirty dozen is just diversions.

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It turns out at the end of this, they're all diversions.

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None of them actually want to get Roger out.

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He sucks.

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It's a prank on Roger.

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They all stand up and be like, this was great, guys.

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Fuck Roger.

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We rat fucked you for the final time.

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Enjoy your short prison sentence.

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Exactly.

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So yeah, that's Graham Ledger's show.

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And we can never speak of Graham Ledger again because he fucking sucks.

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Unless he gets better.

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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That's pretty terrible.

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I appreciate you checking in on it though because I know that a lot of people have suggested

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like, hey, OAN is rising and it is.

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It is.

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Not because of quality.

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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So bad that I had to fantasize about a movie about Roger Stone.

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Yeah.

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Exactly.

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I guess.

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We'll be back.

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We will be back, Dan.

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But first, we have a website.

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Yeah.

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It's knowledgefight.com.

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We are also on Twitter.

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I got knowledge underscore fight and I go to bed Jordan.

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And we are on Facebook.

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Yeah.

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And finally, I am neither Neo Leo nor am I going to help Roger Stone out of prison.

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Andy in Kansas.

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You're on the air.

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Thanks for holding.

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Hello Alex.

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I'm a first time caller.

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I'm a huge fan.

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I love your work.

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I love you.