Transcript/98: May 2-3, 2012

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Andy in Kansas. You're on the air. Thanks for holding

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Hello Alex, I'm a person color. I'm a huge fan. I love your work. I love you. Hey everybody welcome back to knowledge fight

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I'm Dan. I'm Jordan. We were a couple dudes who like to drink novelty beverages and sit around and talk about Alex Jones

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We do talk about Alex Jones pretty much all the time too much. I think we talked about other stuff

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You know who thinks we talk about him too much, but literally everybody

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The three of us the only thing we all agree on we talked about Alex Jones way too much

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Yeah, what are you gonna?

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Do is there a twist to that is like they're cuz we can't just talk it can't just be guys who are really really knowledgeable

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Having like a really dry conversation. No like we're on Charlie Rose

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We can't do that bullshit like what are we David Brooks? No you all right you and Alex Jones know very little about

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I know a lot about both of you. Yes

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Yeah, that a new wrinkle to it. I studied up on you at the very least my scrabble habits

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Yeah, absolutely never gonna lose again

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Absolutely, so if you're listening to this. This is a happy Monday to you. This is my

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I'm not I don't have a job anymore. This is Dan's freedom day indeed. I want to talk a little bit just real quick

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It was a weird experience on having a last day at an office. That isn't like a hey. I'll go fuck yourselves right right

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All right in my in my life

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There's been a lot of like you need to get out of here kind of last days or last days where I'm like fuck this

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Shit the like it's hard to time leaving on your last day

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Like getting out like physically do I leave at 430 or no?

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I was gonna leave at 3 30 excited doctor's appointment

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I timed it perfectly very nice, but the I like I knew the bus

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Was going to come into play and so like I had to figure out all right

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I gotta go I gotta say goodbye to just about everybody

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Why but cuz a lot of people would probably feel like I was a dick if I didn't and a lot of people I liked

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A lot of people there. Okay, you're gone. You'll never see any of them again

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Now you go in with a respectful hand

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a pleasure working with

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It has not linked inning these assholes gives a fuck. I'll tell you what I'm not linked inning them

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I don't think we can turn that into a verb. No. I don't think it's gonna happen

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It was just very weird because I I went around and said like the tertiary goodbyes like people in the warehouse and service people

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And then too much work, and then I was like ah shit send a group email god damn it Dan

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I went and clicked on the bus tracker, and I'm like oh

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Oh, no, we got 20 minutes till that night. Oh, no, and it's too cold outside to just wait

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Shit, so I'm sitting in the office. Just drinking a beer cuz

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People are giving you beer. Yeah, I'm sitting there. Just having a beer and they're like you are you taking off like I will be soon

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Probably eight to ten minutes right and then like just staring off into the middle distance drinking a beer by yourself almost in dead silence

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Yeah, of course, and then what's that time is up? I'm like ooh bus is gonna be here in about eight minutes

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I get up like y'all it has been a pleasure

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Well I didn't say goodbye to people in the main office, okay

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That's what I saved until the bus was gone, but anyway, it's so every job. I've ever quit my goal has been one day

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I'm there, and then the next day people go is somebody missing, and that's it

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There's something to that, but I feel very adult about having gone through that

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Maybe it's a rite of passage and Alex Jonesy and rite of passage, okay?

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But it was you're now a young professional Dan indeed

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I'm a young professional propaganda I bestow that upon you I appreciate it something

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I'm gonna bestow upon some people there you go there you go. That's a transition

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I think you got to give a shout out to some of our new donators really excited about this we have two

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Donors who have joined on board new policy wonks both both named Jessie one with an I

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One without all right, so we're gonna do two so I assume one of them is so excited

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Mm-hmm so excited and hide it so excited and one of them so excited

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So so scared and one of them

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I their mom has got it going on yeah

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So this one Jamie's mom no

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Jesse no, maybe it is no you're thinking about Jesse's seven five three oh nine. No that one's a different song, okay?

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That's Jenny

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Lot of J. Names confuse me

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Anyway, this one is for the one. No that's Stacy's mom. What's happening?

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You know Jesus Christ I need a job yeah, I can't remember name

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Okay, yeah, so this one is for Jesse with an eye

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I'm a policy wonk. Thank you very much for joining welcome aboard Jesse with an eyes for Jesse without an eye

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I'm a policy wonk. Thank you so much for joining up welcome aboard the weird uncle from full house now

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I need to do this I

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Have realized that there are a couple people who have donated on a level that is not even specified on our patreon okay

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they are too generous, and we really appreciate it and

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I just have decided to create a new level up for them bounce it up

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There are two people who fall into this category one

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We've given a shout-out to in the past

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And I'd like to give another one to now that we have a specific label for it

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I'm excited to hear this I have not heard this Maria and John C. We thank you so much

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You're very generous, and we appreciate your help keeping the show afloat. I was thinking about it. We've got policy wonk right

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We've got foreign policy wonk. What else could there be well. We have one guy who's a protocols of Zion walk

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That is but that's just a specific title that he has for himself could be yes

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But I was figuring like what is the like supreme title that we could give somebody and I decided

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Maria and John see you two are officially globalists

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I'm a policy wonk

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Go home to your mother tell her you're brilliant someone someone sodomite sent me a bucket of

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You went for it on that I did I think that was a murderers row of all of our out of context drops

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It is I was trying to come up with something very special

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So there you go

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We do appreciate it so much, and if you'd like to become a policy wonk or a foreign policy wonk or a globalist

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You can do so by going to our website knowledgefight.com clicking support the show

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It is increasingly important as I now do not have a job, and I just realized today

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We are 65% of the way towards you and I having to do a drunk commentary on the Obama deception

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Oh, so if people want to work with that. I think that's a real goal

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Yeah, so you know just chip in a little bit see if we can do our drunk commentary

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We could also sell that to riff tracks and see if they would host that on their website

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Let's get Mike Nelson to come over. Oh, that'd be so good get wasted and watch

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Prison planet state I don't remember the oh, yeah, I wouldn't worry about it so Jordan. Yeah

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Speaking of policy walks today. We are fulfilling a special request of one of our very special policy wonks

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Alan out there he has insisted that we

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Get I don't know if Alan's his real name. That's just on Twitter anyway be that isn't may

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I don't really give a shit. I think Alan thick would probably hide behind. It's Robin thick

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It's riding under the name Adam Alan. I don't know names there. We go. I don't know struggling today

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I won't be here in a minute. No of course when you have your research in hand

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You're fine. You know what the problem is I started drew. We got to get you a script

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I started drinking coffee again today. That's the problem. Oh now. You're all jumbled up. Yeah. Yeah, I think

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Started drinking coffee again. Yeah, there was a time where you didn't drink coffee well

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I worked at a coffee distribution center. I drink a pot of coffee every day. I

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Regret to say that I was on a long

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Energy drink kick that's too long. Yeah, that's too much now that I'm you know. I'm 33 years old

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I got to not be drinking all that shit

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Anyway come back to black coffee Alan

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Alan has

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Demanded that we go back in time. Yes. Take a little trip nice little time travel episode indeed

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He has requested that we go to May 2nd and 3rd of

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2012 did he also request we do the longest preamble we've ever done. I think we've done longer

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That's possible. This has only been eight minutes quite frankly

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Fair so I'm sure we've gotten up to the 25-minute mark at one point undoubtedly there is

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the reason that I understand that he suggested this as a time to go back to is that

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It was we wanted to see what the spin would be of the

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Osama bin Laden killing mm-hmm and burial at sea yes, so that was the that we can't be unequivocally happy

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He can't just be like this is the only good thing Obama's ever done

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He has to make up a different reason for why it happened right or say it didn't happen at all

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But that happened in 2011

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So this is actually the anniversary of Osama bin Laden being killed, okay?

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So this is one year later, and so I assume he's going to have the same narrative that he did a year prior

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Just to be sure I went back and listened to I knew you would the 2011 episode on March 3rd

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Or a May 3rd excuse me, and it's not worth going over really right. It's not that interesting

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but

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Incidentally the 2nd and the 3rd of May in 2012 gives us an amazing glimpse

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Into what kind of propaganda Alex Jones was putting out back in 2012 right before all the whole Trump

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Situation happened at all and even before like cuz even in 2015 in our investigation. We found like a pretty particular

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Style of thing right that he's going on there's still demons. There's still all this shit that wasn't really

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All that active in 2012 hmm, so it's fun to go back

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And this is back when he just hated the president because he was black basically yeah, but he also hated Bush

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Let's not let's be fair. We're right, but not because he was black no

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Not black enough

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So let's start we're gonna start on May 2nd

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And we'll get to May 3rd a little bit after that the narratives on the two shows are completely different in amazing ways

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Okay, and this is how Alex starts out the show on May 2nd 2012 the second day of May

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2012

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Transmission I'm Alex Jones your host

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We're gonna have dr. Steve pochenik joining us in the second hour, and we're gonna open the phones up for most of that hour

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I'm I'm really trying to get to more of your calls because they're always so informative

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And by that he means I take them as sources

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Yeah, also spoiler alert Steve pochenik does not show up and the reason is fucking hilarious all right

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But I'm gonna open the phones up for us

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military in the second hour

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Specifically Afghan vets because I can't tell you how many emails come in I'm gonna be honest with you

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I don't have an email right they set me up emails somehow it gets out

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I end up spending all my time trying to read my email. I don't know how other big websites do it

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How does the drudge report that probably gets you know five times the traffic we get how does how do they do it?

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How does the daily caller? How does world that daily? How do they do it?

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So I just use text messages on my phone, and I use

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IMs to the crew and they've all got emails so what happens is they bring me in big piles of interesting emails

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So you sound like a weird old man in the woods. I don't know how to use

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E-mail and I know he has an email of course, but I think he's had one for a really long time

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I think I think he's what he's really expressing is. I don't know how I don't really I don't I can't snow

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I know exactly um

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But this is an uninspired beginning to an episode. Yeah, it's not great. This is hey

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I want to talk to army veterans from Afghanistan that'll reinforce my narrative, but at the same time

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I'm just gonna tiptoe into this episode. I'm not I'm not really feeling it

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Yeah, we'll see how this changes over the course of he's got a very lethargic attitude at this point a little bit very unanimated

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This is not the Alex. We're used to here's what happens immediately after that last clip

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I'm digressing. It's one reason the show is good one reason. It's bad

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I started thinking about troops sending me emails, and then it turns into a whole discussion

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I was having this morning about the nightmare of email, but

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Hundreds of emails have come in that night. It's a money because we weren't even talking about troops in Afghanistan

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saying none of them by the bin Laden killing I

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Told you I've talked to a Navy SEAL who has a friend who's in SEAL Team 6 they believe their

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Helicopter was blown up both of them

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the one at the site of the staged Easter Bunny killing I mean bin Laden killing and

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And it's love to say Easter Bunny. I don't know why people have like Tourette syndrome and stuff

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I guess I have Easter Bunny syndrome, but anyways continuing here

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Just ridiculous all this new order bull is just the total mythology is my point

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And nothing's more ridiculous than the Easter Bunny

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But you ever had family gets mad at you cuz you won't lie to your kids about Easter bunnies and Santa Claus and tooth fairies

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To a sad issue. I guess you're a conspiracy theorist if you don't believe in Santa Claus

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No, but I'm digressing now completely off the reservation

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So he you are completely off the reservation

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I agree he laid a weird discussion of the the ranking of

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Disbelievability regarding fantasy creatures mmm. Love it. He later is like I'm in a comedy mood

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That's why I'm talking about the Easter Bunny so much sounds right. Yeah, sounds right

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It's just like where you like he has no foothold here. He's just he's sort of meandering like you said

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He's off the reservation. He's rambling. Yeah, it's look at this. This is where his ramble goes after that see

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I'm so busy. I was put in touch with former and current Navy SEALs that wanted to expose a bunch of info

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by former head of the Screen Actors Guild

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You're pretty

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And I never even called the guy's number

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That's my problem. I I

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I'm just going in too many directions

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It's I just remembered that ball I dropped and now it's gotten to the point of all I think about is all the balls

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I'm dropping

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And I've never really been like that

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It's just that now

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Your son was around teenage all the informations coming in and it's like I'm Robbie the robot with smoke coming out of my ears

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And I know that's how you are as well with your children and work and taxes

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I think that with your children and work and tax easy. He's guilty. He's going into Jackie Mason territory

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Totally and I think there's a pretty substantial difference between your kids and work and taxes and fighting the globalists

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Is there yes at the end of the day? It's just another thing

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You got to do it kind of is just an item on the checklist frankly

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You know, you're you're like I got to take the garbage out but in a way that fights the globalists

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I got to raise my kids but in a way that fights the globalist

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I was doing I'm gonna watch the new season of Stranger Things

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In a way that fights the globalist. Yeah, I just I was too busy taking out the trash and paying my taxes

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I forgot to call back a very legitimate whistleblower

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Yeah, I know right if your main mission you have no you have no due diligence at all

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You're just like I just let that one go you could still call it. Let's imagine a scenario where Kurt Nimmo

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He's the one of the guys who's left info wars and says Alex Jones is a huge fraud, right?

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He's put that out on Twitter before if there's a huge fraud if Kurt Nimmo were to get in touch with me

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I would drop literally everything I was doing. I'd be like, hey Kurt, what's going on, right?

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That's what I would do. We talked to Larry Nichols for fuck's sake and that was pointless. Yeah

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A complete fucking lunatic. Yeah, so Alex is just meandering his way like I keep pointing that out

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But it's because for the this is the first like 15 minutes of the show the first 10 minutes. There's nothing

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There's nothing to there's no traction other than him saying that no one believes the Osama bin Laden killing story or the Easter Bunny story

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No one believes that no little kids because they're dumb and let me tell you something. Nobody believes in a start a anymore either

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What is that? And that's a sad thing. What's that? Uh, well, that's the reason we have Easter Oh Easter a start a

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She was a goddess. Okay in ancient. What is it Greek?

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Roman times. It's not one of the Greek ones. I know goddess of spring. Oh, no, that's Demeter and

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Persephone. All right, maybe in Greek maybe in Greek. Yeah, let's not go down the mythology path

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I think we're engaging with what Alex is saying right now. I think isn't that our job?

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yeah, I guess so, but let's engage with something that he says that we can actually look into and

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Prove that he's lying about Persian might be anyway, here's the next clip. We are going to have open phones for the military

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military

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Namely Afghanistan veterans

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When Steve puchenik is on the broadcast, dr. Puchenik psychiatrist sort of a lot government overthrower

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Assassin and of course co-author of many Tom Clancy books

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He has talked about here on the air the fact that bin Laden was dead back in 2002

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And of course the CIA and the meeting with him at the American Hospital in Dubai

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All of that came out on CBS News after

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dr.

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Puchenik had talked about it

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Then Walter Cronkite came out and said they had him on ice and we're gonna roll him out and so did Madeleine Albright former

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Secretary of State so very credible

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I'm gonna go out on a limb and I'm gonna say he is at the very least willfully

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Misinterpreting quotes quite quite a bit. Yeah quite a bit

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So I did some looking into Walter Cronkite statements that he's made and I can actually I think I can play this just straight from

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My computer. So, let's see. Here is Walter Cronkite in an interview in 2002

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About bin Laden and something that he thinks is a problem press freedoms. Tell us your thoughts on this

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momentous issue at this I wouldn't have thought that there was going to be a

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a

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See change in how we practice journalism

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until I read a couple of days ago that the

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traditional networks

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had agreed

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and indeed the cable net news networks had agreed with a request by

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The government that it not carry

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Bin Laden's propaganda broadcasts in this country

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so that is something that he takes issue with and he goes on to discuss how all the other countries like Al Jazeera and

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BBC and other you know

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all these other news outlets and foreign countries do play them and he thinks it's sort of irresponsible and

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It's a bad sign for the press when the government is telling them not to air these things and they just roll over like they acquiesce

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Yeah, so that's one thing. It's no

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It's it's not really too much of a surprise now to see so many different screaming shows

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because while that was reasonable intelligent and

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Informative also boring super boring very measured speech. Wow. Is that boring? Right, right and you know

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Understandable. So then it clearly in 2002 he believes have been Laden still alive

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Yes, based on the what he says in that interview right then in 2004 or there abouts

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I had to be in 2004 because it has to do with the events of the election

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And he had an interview with Larry King and he said he believed that you know

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He clearly is believing that bin Laden still alive and he says

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That he believes that Karl Rove may have set up the bin Laden tape that came out in 2004

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he says this as it relates to it being advantageous to the

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Trump the oh, I'm Nancy Pelosi now. Yeah, there it is to the Bush campaign that

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They bring out this terrorist message right that Osama is still around

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He's not saying that Karl Rove worked with bin Laden

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Although Alex might try and present that as what Cronkite is saying also with Karl Rove

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Nothing's off the table. Anything is in play. Yeah, but he's he's saying that it's I

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mean if you take the context of that last clip the 2002 interview into

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Consideration with what he says in that Larry King interview they combine to be like why are they putting out this tape now?

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when before

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They had a restriction on playing bin Laden's tapes, right?

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And obviously that's a really good point has nothing to do with bin Laden faking being dead or anything like that

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So Walter Cronkite one does not match up. It doesn't check out necessarily. So Madeline Albright that whole bag

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Very classy discourse

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She

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Hey, I'm no Walter Cronkite. I've never I've never aspired to be either

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So it's a Madeline Albright was quoted as saying do you suppose that the Bush?

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Administration has Osama bin Laden hidden away somewhere and will bring him out before the election

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And this is a quote from Fox News analyst and roll call executive editor Mort Kondracke

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And he goes on to say she was not smiling

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She's insisted that she was speaking tongue-in-cheek. The quote that she had is to my amazement. Mr. Kondracke

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Immediately went on the air to repeat the comment which was made to a person

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I thought was a friend and smart enough to know the difference between a serious statement and one that was not

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And look here's the deal

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We've seen in the past that Madeline Albright is not that great at making off-the-cuff statements

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She is like most sociopaths devoid of a sense of humor, right?

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She's made number one even stuff that we've discussed here on the show that Alex

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Misrepresents and you know, she's gone on record and apologized for this clearly a joke that didn't land or Mort Kondracke

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Is just sort of an opportunist. Yeah. Well, he works for Fox News, right?

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So I looked into his past a little bit. How did it go? He defended waterboarding pretty vociferously during the Bush era hero

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He said in 2006 you would figure the terrorists will plan more upsurges and violence in Iraq to help Bush's adversaries

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I wrote so he's he's went on Fox News and was saying that like

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Obviously terrorists are gonna try and help the Democrats course linking Democrats and terrorists

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He has a pattern of uncritically airing conservative propaganda pieces as news on his Fox shows

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He's had a couple shows on Fox hero one for from the center of security policy and one for progress for America in particular

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He's equated NSA domestic spying with World War two code breaking

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that is

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That is dumb on an offensive level, right? That's the dumbest take I have ever heard. It's hot

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that's

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He was saying it's okay

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The word flabbergasted in a long time. Yeah, but that flabbergasts me in the present tense

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I think anyone I think anyone who was watching the video could see that in your face. Yeah, so whoa, that's

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That's bananas. He's also been pushed that suggests that we're fighting a war against our own people. Absolutely. That's exactly what that means

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Uh-huh. Yep. That's the subtext. All right

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He's also been pushing for war with Iran since at least 2005 2006 cuz he's a hero, right?

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So I don't take him necessarily as a great source

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Do you mean as a completely stupid and unreliable source who is more than willing to lie lie lie directly to your face?

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It seems that way. Yeah, and so when I looked into like what could Alex use instead as

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like people prominent people who have

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Maybe cast dispersions on the idea that bin Laden was killed in 2011, right?

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Uh, there's one that comes up that Alex should have used me. No

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Benazir Boudeau. Okay, Benazir Boudeau had an interview in two already fun name. It's great fun name great

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She was interviewed in 2007 and said that someone had murdered Osama bin Laden

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She says it in passing and it's unclear if you listen to the context of the entire interview. It's not really

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Clearly clear at all if she's misspeaking because that's not the point of the interview and it doesn't come

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She's being interviewed by David Frost and at no point is he like hold on now. Hold on

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You're telling me Osama bin Laden was murdered. What's going on?

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It's just they move past it in a way that leads me to believe if you watch it

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She meant to say another name and she said Osama bin. Okay, it's not clear. Plus the idea that he was murdered

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Doesn't jive with the ideas that these other conspiracy theorists have of him dying of like kidney failure

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Right, so that to me makes me tired of porn overload. Am I right guys? We found what was in there

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Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah

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So Osama bin jerking off

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Yeah, there it is. So even if you use all right, even if you use a better example Benazir Boudeau

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It still doesn't work still stupid Walter Cronkite Madeline Albright terrible examples

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I'm not here to discuss whether or not like I'm certain that Osama bin Laden was killed in 2011 in the context that we are

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Told he was I don't know from everything I can glean. I believe it enough

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Because the things that people keep pointing out things like why would they throw his body into the ocean that sort of thing?

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That's not that weird to me. No the the arguments of we don't want to create a holy

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Shrine to him or something like that. Yeah that checks out that passes muster. Yeah for me

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I don't need much more than that

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I mean they could have of course buried him in the middle of the desert and slaughtered a camel child

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So that only animal child a camel a calf

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Mmm, so that only its mother knew where the camel calf died and then they could let the mother who would always know where the

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Camel calf died lead them back to the body if they ever wanted to visit. This is an ancient practice

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I'm pretty sure it happened somewhat like that to Genghis Khan, but they also killed like 40 bodyguards

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I believe that the way our government works that would be cost prohibitive

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That would not be that wouldn't fly at the very least you need to set up like six

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Organizations in order to get this man, you know, it would be a lot of red tape. Oh, yeah

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Yeah, PETA would really hate down on on Genghis Khan

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So now I want to talk about Steve Pachannik for a second. He is a psyop. Yeah, I do

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Okay, he's a psyop dude

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And so Alex is saying that he came on in

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2002 to say that Osama bin Laden was dead and he came out with all this stuff

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When you consider it in the context of a psyop operator a psy operator. There we go

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I I was waiting for it

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You know

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One of the things they happen pretty consistently throughout our wars like these things happened in Vietnam in Korea in World War two

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rumors of the leaders death

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Of the other side are a very popular

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Tactic, it's pretty easy to do. It's something that you do hoping that the forces will become dis dis enchanted

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Their morale will go down and they won't fight thinking that their leader has been absolutely you drop fucking leaflets

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exactly that you see this over and over again throughout the history of war right and so the idea that Steve Pachannik a

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Psyop guy is coming on to Alex Jones's show and saying this

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Traditional war psyop language. Yeah, it leads me to believe that that's what he was up to now

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The problem is about right when you're working with terrorist organizations and you're working with these nebulous groups like al-qaeda was in the early

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2000s they weren't fighting for bin Laden. They were fighting for ideology

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They were fighting against us they were fighting against murder right against themselves being murdered exactly

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And so the idea that even if he this psyop was successful and these terrorists did think bin

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Laden was dead that would not stop them from the crusade

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They were on or from the war that they were in them again. He would just be a martyr

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That's a flashpoint the only end result of this psyop that I believe Steve Pachannik was running is to make Americans

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Distrustful of their own government, which I don't know if that was the intended consequence or an unfortunate consequence

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But it certainly bears out on info wars and it's not like we needed that much help. No

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No, I don't think we've trusted the government for a good long while. No for good reason

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Yeah, but be that as it may that's that's really what I wanted to talk about in terms of this all

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The rest of this is not gonna have much to do with bin Laden. Okay, that is of course not it's the anniversary

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That is this moat. Well, he takes a bunch of calls

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We'll see there's a call that's gonna come up that is gets him off track, right?

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But he takes calls from like a wife of a Marine who has gossip and like that sounds fun, right?

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But he just takes these calls from people who are like who?

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What do you do it? Here's here's one. Here's one of the calls that he gets

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so

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What part of the CIA are you in Michael?

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Well, yes, I'm this this is very nice

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Fake laugh, right? So I mean double the rare fake laugh to fake laugh, right? So there's shit like that

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The calls are terrible. He's not getting any real information

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I know he's from the CIA

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No, and so like all of this been although he wants to talk about bin Laden

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But all he can really do is say it's fake seal team six bop. Yeah, you know, so there's nothing now

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I want to believe that they did kill about Osama in 2002, right?

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And then just for nine years just weekend at Bernie's him from place to place to place. That'd be fun

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Absolutely, they'd be fine. Just drop it drop him in anywhere, right?

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the also the the the number of people that would require in order to pull this off is

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Prohibitive like the amount of people that it would take to hide this for nine years. Yeah among two different

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administrations and

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Like what would there be two elections?

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different staff at every layer of

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Department offices and stuff. It would be impossible the bureaucracy would go it would be compliant. It'd be a complete mess

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I think there's only one

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full on conspiracy where the infrastructure did not break at any one point in time and that was

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Scientology infiltrating the IRS interesting though they fucking rocked it

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Yeah, there were about 90 people all who had worked there for like four years plus and they ill they

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executed this

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Just deleting all of Scientology's records. Yeah, it was amazing some good work. Yeah

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No, they all need to you know be what's that? What's that? Get a raise programmed?

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D D food. No, that's that's Stefan molyneux shit. Yeah

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Yeah, yeah, who cares anyway, let's get on to it. Here's the next narrative that Alex comes up with and it's dumb

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And I can prove all three of the stories he tells our lives

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Speaking of the cash issue. Let me just cover this cover this now

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Tennessee man arrested and in prison for using cash. It was an older $50 bill

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They arrested him and kept him in jail

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and then finally

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the evidence area said I think this is real money and

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They told they released him but said you better go cash this in at the bank for something new

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So it's it's it's he's bad. So let's wait about this story. Wait. What did he just say? He's bad

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Yeah, he's bad because you got to go change his money in. Yeah. Oh, no, I I agree. This is bad

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This is out of control. No. No, he's saying that the police state has gone nuts

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Even if you do use a fake $50 bill you should be they should take your $50 bill away and be like hey calm

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It down. So this is a this is a story about a man in Tennessee and he used a

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Super old $50 bill. Yeah

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So the the clerk at the quick mark where he tried to use this bill notified police because the fraud pen that you have

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Yeah, yeah

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I've worked at a gas station with that pen that you're supposed to mark any bill over a 20 with right and the pen marked

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The bill is fake and so they called the police and here's a quote from the officer

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The front side of the bill was off-center and it didn't feel like a normal bill

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It didn't it did look to be counterfeit officer Brock Horner said in his report

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Well, we thought it was weird because it had Jefferson Davis on it. It's a very old $50 better at 50

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Horner took the bill to two banks where it was determined as quote real

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but very old at one and proven real by a black light and magnifying glass at another a

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Judicial Commissioner had Gasper. That's the guy who tried to use the 50. Yeah released from jail after three hours

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He was in jail for three hours too long in a holding cell and Horner apologized for the arrest

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The report said Gasper was told by Horner to take the bill to a bank and have it exchanged for a newer one

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So they didn't if I can say like you're bad take this bill and they were just like this bill is

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70 years old it shows up as counterfeit by our modern technology

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You've got it. This should be out of circulation

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But also you can hear in there he apologized about it because it is a misunderstanding

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That is very reasonable to make the pen marked it as counterfeit and they had to take it to two banks

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And use a black light and a magnifying glass to prove that it was real. What's that dude's story?

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Gasper, where did he get that fucking bill? I don't know. Why does he still have that fucking bill? Crazy? How old is he?

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He was an old dude also

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That bill is probably worth more than $50 probably. Yeah, don't you be giving that bill out?

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Yeah, I mean the money with imperfections is usually that's usually very collect absolutely an antique money

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He probably could have gotten at least 500 bucks for that $50 probably

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Yeah, I mean not now that it's marked by the counterfeit pen

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Agree I think that makes it even more exciting right the bill that beat counterfeiting this bill lies. Yeah

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But you understand like there's a reasonable understand like situation where these should have been taken to the police station

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Yeah, because there's a chance that he is counterfeiting money or something like that

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I don't think he should have been taken to the police station. That is debatable and I don't care. It's a 50

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I don't really care to have that debate. Yeah, just the debate that Alex Jones is wrong is enough

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Got it, and he is wrong. He's lying

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He's pretending that the crime is using money and the crime which turns out it wasn't a crime and they apologize for holding him

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Yeah, it was that it was shown to be counterfeit. Even the cop who got there

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Right, so let's move on to the next story

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And I see articles routinely where people just showed well, I had a friend Chris Atlantis

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And talked him in years. I think he still lives in Austin

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software engineer

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well to do middle-class guy what a patriot knew him down at access TV and

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He went to prison for years

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He was down on the edge of UT and he was talking about silver

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This is like six seven years ago

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And he showed it to some people and they called the police on him thinking it was illegal to have a silver coin

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And then sounds right it turned out he wasn't even on the UT campus

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but they came off the campus saying well, there's a buffer and he had his concealed carry and

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And so they came they got him for the silver try to charge him for that and

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Ended up trumping up stuff for being near a college campus with a firearm

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No criminal records software engineer part of the community developing all sorts of you know software that's well known out there

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And that's that's the American dream now

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So boy, there are enough details in here for me to read a little bit between the lines like oh this dude

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Don't fucked up. Not totally but also I could find no evidence. He was actually

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Arrested I can find no because we have his name. I know the date of the incident

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Uh-huh. I can't find an arrest record from anywhere around then. How about a Facebook? I found the guy's LinkedIn

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Oh, that's nice. Maybe he could get you a new job. Maybe I found software engineer or silver guy. I found Chris a Thanos is

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Is his LinkedIn page and it doesn't I mean, why would you put I was in prison for a few years?

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It's not a good thing to put over a gun charge not a good not put that on LinkedIn

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But it's you know, it looked no it looked like a normal guy. The only two things I could find from Chris a Thanos

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That were in any way

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Interesting was one. He has a page from move on. Oh

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Boy, which as we know is the mutual UFO Network

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Yeah, which is and there's no information on it, but his name is on a move on site

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Okay, and so like he has a collection of ghost sightings or alien sightings on the site, but it's empty

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It's completely empty. So I don't I got nothing on that. Okay, although they really missed an opportunity

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It should be called move on dot org. Yeah, probably. Yeah, I think it predates though. Yeah, I know they still got time

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Um, so you got to raise that profile do something knowledge fight cannot do

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So the other thing I found was an organization called Liberty dollar org and they put out of this can't be great

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They put out a periodical newsletter and I found their newsletter

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from April of 2003

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Which is when Chris a Thanos was allegedly arrested which and there was a code in it that said Chris a Thanos kill kill

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No, that was yeah, I was in the March. Okay, I

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I can who else would have gotten Obama or Osama like I like I said, though

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I can't see I can't find any like mugshot

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I can't find any record of him doing time or anything like that. And if he did I apologize

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It's just not it's you know, I don't mean to disparage but it's not out there

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Sometimes you can get that expunged from your public record. It's possible

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Yeah, so they or Alex is lying about you because you guys had a falling-out and Alex didn't want to talk to you anymore

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So he just made up a reason so and this Liberty dollar org. They have a

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Passage in this very terrible

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The newsletter zine yeah, it's just a word doc basically there's no bells no whistles

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Oh, but one of them is the incident of the month one of the sections now

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I'm in and so here I'll just read from this on April 14th

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2003 in Austin, Texas an incident occurred that just shows how a small misstep can create a big problem and most unfortunately

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Unfortunately, this incident involved Chris Athanas one of our most successful associates and the RCO for South

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Austin like so many times Chris offered a cashier a choice of either a $10 Silver Liberty coin or

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$20 Federal Reserve note to attend a comedy show at a University of Texas venue and didn't think much

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That a quote friendly police officer was on guard next by nearby

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Chris paid with the Federal Reserve note as that was preferred by the cashier and went into the show

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Already we can see in this if your newsletter calls it a Federal Reserve note

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Yeah, you guys are wacky. You're suspicious. Yeah. Also we can already tell he was at a University of Texas venue

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So he was on campus property. What comedy show is he? Well, it's probably the blue-collar

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What what what time is this? What year 2003 2003? Yeah, it's probably Brian Posey could be that was the year

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Comedians of comedy was really breaking that is true. Yeah, it could have been

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So he gives him a 20 it goes into the show

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Shortly, the police officer found Chris and asked to see the quote coin

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I think the quotation marks in there a little fuck off a little bit of a flare

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Mistakenly, the officer thought it was illegal. So he asked Chris to step outside, which he did now

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I'm gonna read through the the subtext

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I believe that the person who worked at the door here thought this guy was trying to pull a scam

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Yeah, of course and flagged down the police officer. That's my guess. Yeah, that's my guess

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So during a brief discussion the officer and the backup officer asked Chris for his identification

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Chris refused stating his fourth and fifth constitutional rights

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The officers informed Chris that he would be arrested if he did not produce an identification when Chris finally produced his ID

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He also produced his right to carry a concealed weapon permit

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This led to an inquiry as to where the weapon was and ultimately to Chris being arrested for having a weapon in a prohibited area

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a school

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So there we go

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Okay, that's their version of it. All right, so

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Chris is a lunatic who likes to carry guns wherever he goes to schools and comedy shows does not realize that it's illegal to do

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So in public spaces like a school, right? Whereas Alex's version of this would be like hey

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It's totally legal to carry your gun everywhere. I have right my rights my sovereignty. I just heard the massive

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Collective sigh the two police officers had. Mm-hmm. He was like, I don't need to show you ID

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I have the fourth and fifth amendment. They were like

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Fuck yeah, what are you but again second story had nothing to do with money, right?

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It has its money adjacent in as much as

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Someone being so slightly suspicious about someone's intentions. Yeah led to the the actual problem

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Yeah, that's a classic asshole slash con man move of is like I got a $20 bill or

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Or you can have the shiny thing. Yeah, exactly. Fuck you, dude

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Just pay with a Federal Reserve note, right? Hey, you can take this 20 or this chunk of gold. Yeah, it's pyrite

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Yeah, so here's the next one

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but I see these cases where one case I remember was a few years ago a guy goes into Best Buy and

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he had

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I think his bank film sounds like a street joke or a memory stick or something. You can pull up the article guys type man

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Arrested for using $2 bill at Best Buy and he is and then we can pull up the original influence like five six years ago

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So I forget the details

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But all I remember about it was is is that he had done something with Cub Scouts where he was teaching about the Declaration of

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Independence, you know, that's on the back of a $2 bill

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beautiful

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Engraving I know because I went to the u.s. Mint once when I was a kid in DC Brad a whole sheet

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In fact, it's somewhere around here

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The guy he gave tours he gave like tours the children took okay

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So he didn't work with Boy Scouts or anything like that, but he what he did have like an official capacity

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Anyway, good for him back to Alex's story about going to the mint. I

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Need to get it framed and it came in a red tube of $2 bills

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that they were selling as one sheet uncut and

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I guess I can get arrested for that. I bought it the u.s. Mint. Nope

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But weren't circumcised worry Alex. Yeah digress in these stories

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And he had been teaching the Cub Scouts about it. He didn't and he was showing it to him and memory serves it does and then

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He had some left. He'd been handing him out teach my declaration independence

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So he went in to buy something at Best Buy and they said this is illegal

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This isn't real and and then the managers and all of them were so stupid. I

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Would have just walked out with a security guard blocked him that they thought it was illegal and the cops were so ignorant

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That's what's so dangerous about the public's not even so much evil. They're just dumb ignorant

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Morons, not just the police the general public are just

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Dangerously stupid and he went to jail agree. He went to jail. In fact, you guys found the article you put it up

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Man arrested cuffed after using $2 bills Best Buy customer on being jailed at this point. I'm a mass murderer and

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Let me see if I was right about the Cub Scouts. Let's see how good my memory is not great

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That is from what year is that from?

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This is really thousand five since he has had six years ago. It's actually like seven

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whoa

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See if I'm right about the Cub Scout thing. I know it was some youth deal

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So I'm you I left a lot of that in there

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But you're responding to like oh, this is riveting radio to to sort of illustrate like this is what his show was like back then

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Yeah, this is very it's wild. This is me. This is rambling bullshit. It's more information

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It's like getting it's like a story told by your grandmother like what and what's what movie was that that we went to and the?

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Theater was gorgeous. It was a beautiful theater. I'm Hanks was great. Oh, man. Wait, Tom Hanks wasn't in that movie

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I thought we were talking about

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Cloud Atlas, I love that movie. So of course you do. Of course you love

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Alex back then was much more information. It was all lies. Yeah, but it was that it's it's that like

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It's not a show man. It's not great

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No, it's it's fun to listen to though because what we're gonna get to is fucking hilarious. Okay the end of the

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May 2nd episode is maybe one of my favorite things I've ever heard

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Since we started doing this podcast. I have had a few people like oh, man

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I used to listen to Alex Jones like five years ago, and I've always been like why the fuck would you do that?

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He's an insane man. Yeah, and now you're showing me five years ago, and I'm like well

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This is just kind of kooky and stupid. Yeah

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Yeah, and there are moments where it is like one of the things that I loved the most about Loveline

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Back when I used to listen beyond beyond just like them being great hosts and the lines of love sure

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Was it felt like they were trapped there was a there was a certain amount of like it's late-night radio

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They're stuck in this studio, and they got to fill time, right?

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So Adam would come up with little games and stuff like that and ways to amuse himself

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And there's a feeling of that a little bit with Alex Jones in 2012 of like he's trapped in this studio, right?

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Whereas now like if you look at the pictures of what his studio looked like back

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Then it looked like shit like not like shit, but compared to now. It's not a million-dollar studio

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Mm-hmm, so like there is a feeling of like I gotta fill this time

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What the fuck am I gonna do let me ask about this Boy Scout thing?

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So it there's a charm to it that I like about radio about amateur independent radio

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But bit of a ramshackle quality to it. Yeah, so like the boom mic is popping down into the shot right right totally

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So Alex is lying about this story entirely what a shock three stories in a row about money

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He's completely lying about to make his point that it's illegal to use money

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So this is from a world which everyone knows is dumb

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Even his listeners back then are like Alex. It's not illegally used money

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It's not great to use stupid money because people are gonna get confused

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Yeah, so even in the world net daily article about this which is what he's citing it says

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According to the Sun report the police arrest

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Report noted one employee noticed some smearing of ink on the bills

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That's when cops were called one officer reportedly noticed the bills ran in sequential order

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Which is suspicious generally because people would you rob a bank? Yeah? Yeah, and the

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Smearing ink on the bill also could come from like a gel pack or something like that

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There's a lot of reasons why that would cause around suspicion secret service

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None of them being that it had a two on it

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They called in a secret service agent at the police station right because of this Department of the Treasury so they the Secret Service

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Agent Leah Turner eventually arrived and declared the bills legitimate adding according to the police report

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Sometimes ink can smear on money, which is not widely known information

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That's not something that people know

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So also Alex is lying about the fact that he was teaching Boy Scouts about the Constitution

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That's not what he was doing. That doesn't sound right at all. He gave he gave he gave tours

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And so he was there at this Best Buy and he was getting a stereo

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Installed in his son's car not buying film. He seems like a nice guy. I don't have anything against him

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Yeah, I think I think this guy was a

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The victim of weird injustice totally I agree and he got handcuffed to a pole at the police station

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Waiting for this to get resolved again. It was only a matter of hours

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Yeah, but at the same time if he wants to sue the city or whatever the police department fall on board

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I don't know if you would win, but I would not have a chance. I'm fine with that

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I don't think like they did not act out of line and be like you can't use two dollar bills now

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but there was a miscarriage of

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Perceptions, I guess I don't know

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So anyway, the after Best Buy personnel repeatedly told ballesta which by the way, his name is Mike ballesta

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Which is an anagram for bike molesta

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Told him that he would charged for the installation of the stereo in his son's car

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He received a call from the store saying it was in fact charging him the fee as a means of protest

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But ballesta decided to pay the 114 dollar bill using 57 crisp new $2 bills

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Of course as the owner of capital city student tours

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The Baltimore resident has a near has a hearty supply of the uncommon currency

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He often gives the bills to students who take his tours for meal money quote

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The kids don't see that many $2 bills

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So they think this is the greatest thing in the world ballesta says they don't want to spend them

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They want to save them. I've been doing this since I started the company. So I'm thinking I'll stage my little comic protest

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I'll pay the hundred fourteen dollars of $2 bills. So

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You know, all right, that was kind of I mean, that's not a good bit, but I get it

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But it's in the vein of someone who's like I'm gonna pay all the nickels. Of course. Yeah. No, no, I get it

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I think it's less effective because it's just 57 $2 bills as opposed to you know, like five 20s

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But whatever have your fun

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Have your fun and it's a little less effective because he didn't realize that they were leaking ink

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They were so so that's not I mean, it's just like three

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In like instances right in a row of Alex misleading telling bullshit

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Stories to try and enforce this narrative that like Fiat currency. They're trying to make it so you can't have real money

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They want to take everything digital because he talks about the globalists wanting a cashless society, right?

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And so you use India did just go cashless interesting, which was a fucking bananas way. They did it too

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Yeah, one day the Prime Minister was like cash is nowhere

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illegal like interesting if you can't use cash anymore now that is a great idea to go paperless, but

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Roughly 85% of people in India do not have credit cards or anything and the same is true

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Maybe not that high of a number but of our population. It just wouldn't work. It would be absurdly impossible to implement

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Yeah, all the drug dealers. I know would really fuck up their business. Yeah, they don't take Bitcoin baby

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I know although maybe that's what they should start doing probably it's untraceable. Absolutely

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so Alex like he's just trying to bolster this narrative of

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Globalists want to get rid of cash so they can control what you purchase and track everything by telling three bullshit stories. It's crazy

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It's so easy. It's so easy to see through

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Well, I mean it's comically easy. The Simpsons do only make one House of Horrors episode per year

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So it might not be that easy to come up with three separate stories. It's possible

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Yeah, so all of them connected by a theme that solid work. It's true. So at this point, we've already seen

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A bit of difference about Alex back in 2012. We've seen he's not as good of a performer. No

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He's a little bit

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Like I said, he gives too many details because I could track down all these stories if he had just been super vague about it

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It would be much more difficult for me to find these and be like nope. You're wrong

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Yeah, and so he hasn't learned that trick yet, but here in this next clip and he hasn't even made me mad this entire time

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Well, I'm kind of like, you know what we disagree on things, but I think you're fine, right?

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There is a little bit of that. Yeah, but

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In this next clip we're gonna get to find

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We're gonna get to see a similarity between 2015 and 2017 Alex

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There's this story I saw yesterday and didn't cover and I meant to get one of my riders to ride on it more

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But world that daily, of course picked it up. It's the pilot newspaper

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out of Norfolk, Virginia

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and

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and they don't even say to the second page that it was black-on-white crime a beating at church and

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Brambleton and the story is for two weeks the paper refused to report on

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Whites in their cars being attacked by hundreds of young black people. This is happening all over the country

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It's epidemic people and the police when they complain and went for help

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We're told shut up and get back in your car. We're not gonna help you. What do you want us to do?

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Sounds like the paper

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Agonized over even reporting on this happening now again

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My issue is this is very dangerous

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The globalists want to foster this show it boils up and gets really big

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the Justice Department tried to cause race wars as you know,

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The NBC edited the tape of Trayvon Martin regardless of whatever you think if he was right or wrong towards him

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And the point is the Justice Department had foam enters in there

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the media tried to push this to get us fighting with each other new boy and

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Now the media feels like they can report on it because they use our bragging on Facebook about it the youths are bragging

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Some are saying, you know, it's not very nice to beat up white people, you know, some black folks. They're saying oh, yeah

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Well, they deserve it as a Trayvon and so what's going to happen is the average yuppie

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That's self-loathing and everything is now going to start not being racist

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But fearing all black people and this will not be good for black folks

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Socioeconomically it won't be good for anybody, but that's what the globalists want

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They want to keep you on their poverty pimp

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Reservations and they want through the culture the hip-hop all of it to sell that it's cool to talk about about white people and

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And young punk white kids may make it intimidated by that and go grovel at the feet of it, but most people

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Because in the color of their skin, but wow, I better look out so

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He's already I mean, he's in his white victimhood shit back then even it's crazy. That's universal. That's my that's my favorite

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Bullshit there's it's always like oh no black people you if you were nicer to white people we would like you more

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It's like you dude. I

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You're just going to make white people scared. Yeah, the the

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Good look good white people should be far more afraid now. Here's the unfortunate piece of this. He's not lying

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Okay, that is a real story

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and I looked into it and

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While a lot of the context is off it is real

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There was a couple that was driving at church in Brambleton, which is an intersection

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In some place in Virginia and there were a bunch of kids in the street there

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Hundreds seems like an exaggeration, but there were dozens of kids

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okay youths and they beat up the dude in the car because he got out of the car and

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They were mad wandering around in the aftermath of the Trayvon Martin murder. Yeah, and they were blocking traffic

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He got out of the car and they were attacking him and the police ended up coming

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Now the part about shut up and get back in your car is a misrepresentation

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The police were interviewed about that and they talked about how they had got reports of gunshots

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On another part of town that evening and so when they were telling them to get in the car

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They were like get in the car and because yes

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it was a protective thing right and they I believe the quote was we made the decision to get them off the streets as

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Immediately as possible, right? So that was what was going on there

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The the article itself cites one Twitter comment where someone said do it for Trayvon or something like that

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One Twitter comment is news. It's not good reporting

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Oh

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But the the other stuff that surrounds it the stuff about the paper refusing to cover it because it's black-on-white

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Crime is not true. All that stuff is just that that

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That that part isn't true. But I feel like nobody did anything wrong in that story. Well, I

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I know I mean you still don't want people beating up innocent people. You know what I mean? Like it's yeah, it's

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Understandable. I I would say it's understandable. I don't think it's right, but I get it. Yeah, I get it

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I still think there's an innocent victim in it

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Is there yeah?

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Yeah, who the dude who got got out of his car got beat up and nobody's innocent. She's

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You don't know anything about this guy

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And to be fair, I don't either. Yeah, so I bet he was a dick

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There's a lot of assumptions you have to make but be white dude Norfolk, Virginia

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Virginia

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So but look the more important piece is this is Alex. He's driving sees a bunch of black kids

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All of them very frustrated and angry about Trayvon. He thinks fuck it. You know what?

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We can't be having this gets out of his car starts mouthing off

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We don't know and he gets his ass beat but that might not have been that might not have been what he did when he

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Got out of the car. We don't know that entirely possible

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But come on that narrative tracks for you, but you're just doing what Alex does. I know. Okay, I'm having fun

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All right, as long as you're aware of that because that's the opposite of what we do

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But the just sort of like a guessing what a story I know I know it's Dan I'm just I'm just having fun with you

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Oh

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This is a good juxtaposition

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Or not that switch around. This is a body swap comedy is yeah

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You're gonna be very angry this entire time and I'm just gonna be chill having

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I'm chill having a grand old time. You think I'm chill on all our episodes saying that you're chill but by comparison

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I don't know why I'm getting offended that you think I'm because you're very angry right now not chill

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So anyway, but the point that I want to make is that this idea that he has or that he's espousing

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About this being a race war narrative and this story reinforces that is the exact same thing

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He's doing with those currency scores

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So the game he plays is very clear and it repeats despite whatever the context is right and you could be

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You could make a good case for him

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Just having got lucky that the headline actually did match up with the rest of the story sure or at least matched up with some

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Of the story and it's not a it's not an incredibly sensational story and actually I got to be honest

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I know a hundred percent that Alex did read that article. Okay, because when he's talking about the person on Facebook

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He's referring to something that was in the article that one post. I think I said Twitter. It might have been Facebook

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Well, no wonder he was so boring back then. He actually paid attention, right? He's like me. Yeah, I

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Gotta get to the bottom of this. I'm not gonna call that fucking Navy SEAL. I gotta get to the bottom of this thing

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So I told you earlier Alex wants to take calls from Afghan veterans who?

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Who out will agree with him that bin Laden died way back in the past and it's all bullshit and he's crushing it so far

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I've taken 400 calls

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unfortunately, he gets this call pretty early and it destroys the entire rest of his

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Tom and Georgia you're on the air

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Hey Alex, I'm calling from FEMA region for two quick points that I'd like you to look into

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Piggybacking on one of the stories you did a couple weeks ago

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I have a cousin who's married to a soldier stationed out at Stewart

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Home Brigade homeland who told her that the guys that blew up that fellas house in Roswell

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Yeah, they were wearing Fulton County Marshal's uniforms, which is why you Roswell police all those guys were off-duty that day

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But that they were actually soldiers from Stewart that did it you look into that number two

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The former Viper squad that have been hanging out on Interstate 40 as you go into Memphis in the little cutoff there

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Where it goes down from 70 to 55 have moved

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Eastward and now on all of their vehicles. It says district 23 police

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So I stopped and asked a guy at the rest area

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Hey, where's the 23rd district in Tennessee? And he said man, I don't know what that is. There's no such thing

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That's bullshit. Just do a Google search. You'll find the 23rd district

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It includes the city of Fairview Franklin Brentwood

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Nolan's ville Thompson station Spring Hill, it's just south of Nashville

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It is substantially east of Memphis

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However, and the intersection of 40 and 55 that he's talking about is not near there

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But the condition sent him an email about the 23rd congressional district is a very real place in Tennessee

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Memphis is straddled by the 8th and 9th districts

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so anyway, that's all bullshit, but

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The chicken man the chicken man the chicken man

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Is what destroys the rest of Alex Jones's show what happened? Nothing. You're right. Yeah, what did you do?

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Cigarette cigarette you just do just burn my chair. No, that's what I didn't do. Okay, I apologize

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So the chicken man, what do you know about the chicken? I don't know anything about the chicken man

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I know everything about the chicken

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So the chicken man

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Was a gentleman by the name of Andrew words

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who or

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Jim semi-van could be Jim semi-van the chicken man could have been how Jim semi-van faked his death now

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That would be a great traveling show. Jim semi-van the chicken van

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I would totally go see him do a headlining spot. I would do

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So Andrew words the chicken man was a guy who lived in

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in Georgia in

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Roswell, Georgia and he had a couple of chickens and then alright

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so one part of his story checks out then he got a bunch more chickens and a rooster and

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Some pigs and his neighbors started to get really mad cuz it was just a house. Yeah

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So that's a problem

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They started to get furious because these animals were super loud

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dropping property values for sure and so he got in trouble and he there was a an order that a judge gave that

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told him that he had to restrict the number of animals he had at his house because

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You know, it's fucking duh. We live in a society. Yeah, and so he refused to comply with that order

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He's the chicken man. So he ended up going to jail because he wouldn't get rid of his chickens contempt of court

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so he fell behind on his mortgage payments while he was in jail and

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Unfortunately that led to his house being put under eviction. So he's in debtors prison now

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Pretty much. He's dead now. Oh, he's dead. No, he's dead. Oh, no, what did the chicken man do?

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so eaten by his chickens that ironic bastard so on on

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March 26th Fulton County Marshalls came to his house to evict him

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And I'm reading here from a Huffington Post article on the on the matter, but a standoff ensued around 1245

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P.m. Word I take it. This is where we find out what happened to the chicken man. We do. So the issue too was that

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Was that he was supposed to be in court that day as I as I understand

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Yeah, so there's a guy named Mike Pechenik not related to I got it

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He's a reporter for Channel 2

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In Atlanta and he went to words his home on Alpine Drive where Fulton County Marshalls were gathered outside for the eviction

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Words told Pechenik he was scheduled for a court appearance that morning on a traffic citation

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But feared that Marshalls would repossess his home while he's gone. So he didn't go so he's in the house and I mean

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I guess that's a play. So the standoff ensued around 1245

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P.m. Words called the cell phone of like a local TV reporter Mike Pechenik who was outside the home and told him to warn

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Marshalls to leave the property

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He told Pechenik. I can't tell you what's gonna happen, but it ain't gonna be pretty

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Moments later the home exploded and started a fire

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Oh boy CBS Atlanta reported that fire officials found a deceased individual inside but could not

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Confirm that it was words. It was

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Investigators found gasoline and a potential detonation device inside but the cause of the explosion remains under investigation

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I had this was reported the day of

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So the other quote that he had that he said to Mike Pechenik on the phone right before the explosion was I?

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Appreciate everything brother. I appreciate everything you've done and then so you blew up his house. I

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Feel like that dude was a probably fine

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Except for all the fucking chickens and pigs. Yeah, if he just if they just hadn't if they had just taken him away

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Mm-hmm, although he probably would have blown up all the pigs according to the stuff that he

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Posted on a bunch of like weird meetup groups. All right, this is social media stuff

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I'm not liking him anymore. He really loved these chickens like to the point where he was willing to die for the chickens

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I mean, that's there's something grossly romantic about that. That's why he's called the chicken

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Got it. So yeah, I mean the story the story that Alex is telling is

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Like I mean, I guess

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These these federal marshals or they're named federal Marsha. What is the soldiers from Stewart?

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Stewart is a army base

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Okay, not not a not its own soldier group. We're like, well we call ourselves the soldiers from sewer. No, no, no, of course

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So that we'll get we'll get it cuz night to say knee was already taken

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We'll get into that a little bit more down the line

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But the basic premise is that there are soldiers

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impersonating

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Deputies sounds right and they blew up his house

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For an unknown reason Madeline Albright was running the show probably

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Yeah

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Alex has suggested that they wanted to build a biodome there which doesn't make sense because he has neighbors and there is no biodome now

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Fucking chickens though, right?

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So but that that doesn't make sense

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It's like imminent domain doesn't come into play the only complaint that anyone had was like you are

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Bothering your neighbors with your roosters. Yeah roosters do one thing and that's wake people up. They make a shit ton of noise

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That's kind of their game

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Makes sense, it's very discourteous neighbors

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I don't like the fact that he lost his house like that's that sucks like while he was in jail

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He couldn't make his mortgage. That's I think that's an injustice as well. I feel a tremendous amount of empathy

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Yeah, we should have just in the same way. We should have just built a biodome over his house

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Couldn't hurt that would have made everything better the home. Absolutely

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Maybe they were just trying to film the movie biodome and he he misheard that no, this is too late

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This is 2005. All right or whatever

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2003

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So in this next clip we see that Alex Jones totally believes this caller who has brought up the soldiers from Stuart

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Narrative of blowing up the chicken man's house. I'm gonna go dr. Pechenik

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I apologize for having to hold

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spoiler alert the reason Steve Pechenik hangs up is that he Alex does

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10 15 minutes on the chicken man and

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Alex comes back from break after Steve Pechenik is gone and he's like

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Yeah, Steve was just like I called in to talk about bin Laden. Well, I what what's this chicken?

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Like I gotta go I gotta go

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Talking about the chicken man. Goddamn it. I'm dr. Steve Pechenik sigh up assassin or whatever the fuck. I'm supposed to throw government

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That sounds fun, so there's a moment panic take a break

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Talk about the chicken man from time to time did take a break. He took well, yeah. So anyway

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But this is breaking news

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So a little bit the next hour to catch up on time to take military calls as well

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But sure repeat everything you just said on air because some stations don't carry that first five minutes

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Who this person is the fort where brigade homeland is based everything you said like tumblers just clicked as?

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As that I believe you but we've got a ferret this now

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This is this is chilling the police act like they are scared to death there in that town

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So does the sheriff go so then the guy just repeats exactly what he said in the first thing, of course

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And it's a relative of his has a spouse that works at Stewart. So this is third hand information

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That's coming to him fourth hand if you consider Alex as one of the hands. Yes, it's hearsay

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It's nonsense and let's listen to this next clip

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So we can get like Alex being a little bit petty pretending he already knew everything that the caller said

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Of course and then we can get a clearer sense of what the allegation actually is

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But what they're training the guys at Stewart to do in their day-to-day training is wear

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Police uniforms of these different parts of the country. I argue that doesn't take training put on a shirt

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Do they even need to do that they could just give them a badge and call them plain clothes, right?

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We have to we have to train you to wear a different uniform

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It's very dumb like they have to like they have to actually impersonate people. They're like, okay

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We're gonna send you to Tennessee go with your Tennessee accent. Hey now, what's wrong? You're terrible

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We're gonna have to send you to Maine go with your main accent

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Well, but you could just use any voice and say I moved here from Missouri

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Yeah, you could know you have to blend in with the locals

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Let me tell you this one of the hallmarks of the police is they don't like to answer questions

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So you don't really have you could really just not say anything. I don't have to do an improv scene with a citizen

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I think you should know I think that's it. Look second city traveling group

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Actually there to teach

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Soldiers from Stewart. I think was second city that killed the chicken, man

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Like Fulton County Marshalls, they're training in these local uniforms and the soldiers are like, why are we doing this?

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You know, do you have a lot of dissent within the ranks out there at Stewart if you can get guys out there to interview?

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Them you'll have and I'm not just I'm already aware of it. I was already when you mentioned this

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This district, you know 23 group and all that which is the major testing ground, but now it's expanding

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They have TSA in fake local made-up outfits now

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I mean, this is this is directly out of the worst communist dictatorships. I mean, this is so

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Hellish this is where they're the secret police aren't just wearing masks. They're putting on different uniforms. I mean this is

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They're putting on the uniform. It's evil. It's evil. The secret police could not advertise themselves

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More like police this narrative is soft. Yeah, I'd say yeah

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I don't there's not much to it because the the motive is not strong

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Is there a motive killing the chicken man is has to be its own motive. What else does the chicken man know?

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Well, Alex, what else do is chickens know and that's the real question. That's the issue

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Yeah, those chickens went into a FEMA can yeah, why did he fucking keep buying them chickens? Right because they have secrets

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Mm-hmm only God knows what goes on in the heart of a chicken follow the money follow the chicken

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So Alex probably would say that this is like trying to get people used to the idea of police killing you and like done

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Yeah, we're way past that dude. Yeah, we don't need to do and then he's bringing in this idea

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Maybe you should listen to fucking hip-hop, right? You'd know why people are angry about it

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The other thing is he's trying to bring in this idea that these soldiers the military is impersonating police because that would breach posse

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comitatus

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Which nothing better than a an obscure law that has a Latin name already. I'm like it is real

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I mean it is the law that or the act I guess that says that

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to accept by act of Congress

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The military is not allowed to operate in police acts. Of course. That's kind of that's the across the Rubicon rule

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But also it's not because there is the stipulation except by an act of Congress

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We're gonna get to that later, right?

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But anyway, Alex is he tries to spin this narrative that like the malt the Fulton marshals

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They don't know what happened and the sheriff says that they weren't working that day or something like that

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He says it's in the paper. It's in mainstream news. I can find nothing of this. I can't find any of that information, right?

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He doesn't provide any backup to any of it

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So I have to assume that it's not true and just a caller told him or something like that because of course

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Yeah, so after this Alex gets a caller with real information

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About the chicken man. This can't go. Well. Well, let's see how it goes

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Okay. Well, you're a police officer. What's your news?

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Hey Alex, good afternoon. Are you enjoying the ranching?

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Yeah, I always enjoy a good rant especially on info wars

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I'm originally from metro Atlanta in Georgia, and I worked in law enforcement

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It's where I cut my teeth and law enforcement was actually in the Roswell area in Fulton County

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and one of the things I want to point out is

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Fulton County and metro Atlanta is unique that they have a sheriff's office and a marshal's office. Okay, that's what it is

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Yeah, there's actually two different divisions of law enforcement

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the sheriff is an elected constitution of a constitutional official and the marshal is an appointed position from the Board of Commissioners and

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The marshal's position and his deputy marshals

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Mainly what they're there for is the movement of inmates from pre-trial detention centers

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To going forward for trial and this sort of thing if you can imagine

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When they leave jail and go to the courthouse, the marshals are kind of the ones who kind of sit and babysit the inmates

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Conceivably you might need those people if you're going to take this guy in who seems resistant to yeah

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It's a little bit of a crazy guy with a shit ton of chickens and pigs

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It's a little bit of a stretch, but it doesn't seem that strange. No, I think I buy this. Okay, I'm good

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As they're awaiting their arraignment for court hearings and this sort of thing

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it's it's highly unusual to me that the marshals would be the one doing the civil process on the chicken man and

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Roswell, you know my issue is is we've called all these groups and the papers say everyone denies they did it

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They didn't and now this fella called in his son incredible and everything

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He said tumbled into places. I know this goes on and said no brigade homeland raided the house

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Although more info towards you Alex when when your reporters

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Went to what you're calling it. They look like a capital building Roswell City Hall

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Officers that were not Roswell police officers proper what they actually are a municipal complex police officers

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They work for City Hall. They do not work for the police department

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if you can imagine they're kind of

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trumped up bailiffs

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So when Alex Jones sent his crack team of reporters down there to City Hall

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They talked to bailiffs basically who look like cops, right?

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And they said we weren't involved and that spiraled out of control into like the police say they weren't involved

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That's my guess based on everything. I know about Alex Jones and his quote-unquote due diligence

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Right, so she won't go along with me and my my story about the white dude getting beat up. I get it

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You're allowed to speculate. I'm not I think I'm coming from

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A informed position. I think I am you were trying to start a race war

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I was not trying to start a race war Jordan

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Race race war has already been going on that. We've just been winning it too. Well, so

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Before we get too deep into that because I wish I mean white people not you and me dad, right?

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I don't want to get into that because we have something really important to do. Okay, so we have two more clips from

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The May 2nd episode. Yeah, then we're gonna get into May 3rd and I'm gonna put on my policy wonk hat

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Okay, cuz I'm gonna talk now we're gonna dig in to talk deep about policy. Oh how stupid Alex?

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All right, but first will you give the listeners a warning so they can just pause it turn it off. Yeah

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but before we do that the end of the show on May 2nd is

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Exactly what I was talking about of Alex seeming trapped in the studio

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Mm-hmm. He knows that the Bilderberg conference is coming up

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It is in Virginia. And so what he does to fill the last let's say half hour of his show is try and book

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reservations at the Marriott

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wait

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It's great, it's so good he does that he does his own travel agenting

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Mm-hmm on air. Yeah, and actually I don't have a clip of it

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But John bound the guy who only appears in those terrible voice-over reports. Yeah, he's actually in studio

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You don't see his face, but you hear him over the mic just talking to Alex and it's very creepy. That is weird

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It's very weird that he does he still sound the same as he does in the voiceover kind of sounds like a stoner to be

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Honest, okay. He kind of sounds like he's high

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I'm not entirely sure and I don't want to put that on him, but he does sound terrible

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Yeah, so so anyway, here's where it begins Alex trying to get reservations at the Mary's can't be real because the Bilderberg group

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We're 95. Well, Jim Tucker says 99% sure. I believe him. We're really finding out early this year how fortuitous

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That's coming up. May 29th through June

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3rd his dates are slightly off, but his location is correct

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Thanks, and he's all shut the hotel the hotel down the 29th. It'll really start the next day and I'm gonna be there

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It's in the u.s. I'm going

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But we're trying to ferret out info and get them to admit it

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That would be nice and and so we're gonna do this on air right now and call the front desk, please

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So I want to say this is killer this is this is kind of long

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So, please tell me if you want to pause at any point like so

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Are you telling me that what we're about to listen to is Alex Jones both try and set up a reservation. Yeah

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Yeah, while at the same time?

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Pumping these people for information about the Bilderberg. Yes. All right. It's

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This is spy work. This is um, I'm stoked. This is one of my favorite long-term clips. This is great

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Last time I kind of acted goofy. We'll see what happens here. I do this stuff too much

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Also, this is probably illegal because he didn't tell people that he was recording ah

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Hi, I was inquiring about the event coming up with the Council of America's the

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29th of this month to the 3rd of June and I'd like to find out exactly when I should arrive for that what time that starts

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I'm sorry, ma'am. I can barely hear you. What did you say?

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We do not have the information of who is coming in that far out

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Okay, well can I book a room

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Actually two rooms with the king-size beds, please

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from the

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Let me see June

Unknown Speaker (01:19:50.399)

Well, no, actually that'd be May 31st to June 3rd. Can I book that right now, please?

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Alex

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You are definitely gonna get the reservation

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Oh

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Here we go. And then we'll get back to them because I'm sure high quality service your conversation may be recorded

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Please see our privacy

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Com to understand

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Let your mind drift away

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Online and the next available representative will be with you shortly. I want to point out they're gonna let me not let me

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refresh and re-enter

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Whether you're traveling on business or leisure, we will make sure you're ready to go

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Busy day over at the Marriott busy day over at info Wars dude. Fuck you sent me to reservations

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Which is a big centralized system problem. This is also I'd like to say wow

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What he's doing instead of talking to Afghan veterans or anybody about what happened with bin Laden

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He could be trying to prove his point instead. He's doing this. He knows he's making everything up. Why not call Marriott, right?

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Probably somewhere else. All right it NSA headquarters is down the street. Oh

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Boy

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I tell you what call the pub call the pub disconnect this we'll call back

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We need to do this behind the scenes as legwork totally confirm this but you know two birds of one stone

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We'll just start doing everything here on the air including real reservations. You should got a full time

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Because fake love my son is begging to go

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He is nine years old I think I should take him to build a very

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Him a king-size bed. Also, I think that might be what led to his divorce because this is pre divorce

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You took our son to Bilderberg

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He's a globalist now. Oh

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Fun story. I looked up the attendees of the Bilderberg conference and someone who's there every year Peter teal

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Hmm, man that fucking guy interesting

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Yeah, let's go Marriott and see if he's

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I'm sorry, sir. You sound a little bit muffled. I don't know if it's my phone system that's on a string and yarn but our tin cans

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Oh, what did you say?

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This is Wellington

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Oh, yes, sir. Are you there in the pub right now? Yes. Okay. Good. Hey, listen, I'd like to know if I could reserve a couple tables

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for a birthday party

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Okay, good. Hey, listen, I'd like to know if I could reserve a couple tables for a birthday party for my friend

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Coming up shame the evening of June 1st

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You need to talk to our manager

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He can take a reservation

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Can you hold the second? Yes, sir

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But I mean good I can still be in there right even though there's that special conference coming up. Okay?

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I can't tell you because I don't have access to the computer and they can take the computer

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The everything they pay he can tell you all details everything great. So I mean you are there in Chantilly yourself, right? Yeah

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All right. Good. Sure. Is there like an event planner I can talk to?

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Oh

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No, I think it pays off big

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Hey, I would I'd like to see about

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Something in one of your restaurants on June 1st a birthday party for my friend

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Sure, sure, this is Alex Jones and I'd like to have a birthday party for David Rockefeller who's staying there that evening

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Well, I mean it depends on how big an area I could get I mean I know I guess the Council of America's

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Meeting is gonna be there and that's a couple hundred people. I mean I I was thinking I'd bring ten or fifteen

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So about ten or fifteen and you're looking to do something in the restaurant. Have you been to our property before? Yes, I have

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Yes, I was I was there four years ago in your lovely little English style pub

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Yeah, and there's also the bigger dining room area

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Okay, can I take down your information? Have a restaurant manager contact you this is on air sure

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We're so the hotel is

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Is open I mean, it's not a closed conference then because I thought I was coming to a closed conference

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I will be more than happy to look into that for you. I usually the pub is still open

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What was the name of the conference against I can take that down? It's gonna be Council the Americas

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I'm sure you've heard about the Bilderberg meeting that's coming to town. Oh, you know what? I am actually new so I apologize

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I have not

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You have not heard that. I have not. I've only been here about a week

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Have you heard of David Rockefeller? No, I haven't. Have you heard of Henry Kissinger? No

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Have you heard of Count Dracula? Yeah, same person

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The best contact number for me is five one two

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Smart bleep in this out. Oh, they did

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My phone up ready to go you did he also bleeps out his email address here

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Can you transfer me back to reservations sure

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Can I do reservations there at that hotel so they know what the rooms are like and stuffers have to be this through the central system

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It usually goes through the central system

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System doesn't everything these days unfortunately does they do apologize?

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Me I will absolutely

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Hope she's still there cuz she's thank you Lord. Mr. Rockefeller will enjoy it. Thank you Lord. Mr. Rock

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You gotta watch the nice ones

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Give me an example of some of the numbers you've got in there. Oh, who can we call so then

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Uh, you know that is exactly what a paranoid schizophrenic would say

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You got to watch the night gotta watch out for the nice ones, right? Someone giving you great service

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So they dick around a little bit and then this is when John bound comes in and is like I just called

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They said I couldn't have a room. I was called. Yeah, sure. Sure

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so there's a bit I cut out and then we have the final four minutes of the show as

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This clip ends. It is the end of the show

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So this is a hard end. Yes. Okay, Alex tries to prank call the Marriott

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He calls back the exact number he called earlier, uh-huh puts on a voice Oh

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No now here's what I told you this pays off

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I promise you at the end of this clip Alex learns an important lesson about not being a dick to people

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It's this is great. I love the arc of it and I apologize that it's another four minutes of Alex on the phone

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Go ahead and dial the Bilderberg. Let me put on my thirst and howl meets Ted Knight voice

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Yes, ma'am, I'd like to book a room please

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One moment

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To ensure high quality service

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John you said this went right through we can do it quickly this time at Marriott.com to understand how we use and protect information

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That was what that was a fake snicker insane fake laugh

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Um, so the the the lesson that Alex is gonna learn is how hotel booking works

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I think he's already getting getting a bit of a crash course in it

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He gets like everyone at the Marriott is awesome because he gets another

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Amazing customer service person who is going above and beyond with a dick on the line

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Yeah, let's wait a guy who's clearly doing a fake accent. Listen to this. This person deserves a fucking raise big-time

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I was out of the hotel. I was still sneaking around in there. Oh

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My gosh truth is so much crazier than fiction nope, come on

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I mean sometimes not this

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Hey, I would like to check in to the

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Marriott on the 29th of this month and stay through the third and I'd like a I guess it's only two three stories

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I'd like a high floor and king-sized beds in both both rooms. Oh, so you need two rooms. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yes, ma'am

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I was there conference or anything you're coming in for no, I just don't want to play golf nearby

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Watch the hotel is completely filled

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I'm sorry. Is it the Bilderberg group coming? I

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Don't know how can it be completely booked? I'm supposed to tee off with Lord Rockefeller

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Well, you know what?

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You're gonna have to get a little bit more people with mr. Rockefeller then

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Well, we'll be we'll be seeing how you get a little bit more people with mr. Rockefeller

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Then it goes well, we'll be we'll be seeing how to him. Don't worry. Okay, cuz what I have the

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Marriott I have

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Is the Fairfax that's for?

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Fair Oaks

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So at this point and throughout this customer service rep doesn't realize Alex is fucking with her and is trying to help him

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She is now being like well, there's another Marriott six miles away. I can get you a room there

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It's not that far. You can still go to the conference

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She's going above and beyond in terms of trying to find a resolution for his problem, right?

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And I hope she gets a commission for this one

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Hey, last time I was there during Bilderberg the NSA had taken over all the major conference rooms

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They weren't using are they already shipping in the equipment right now. I have absolutely no idea

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All right. Let me ask you a really serious question. Do you believe that?

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Osama bin Laden was really killed last year by Obama

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Well, they say so they never lie do they well you never know

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Well, ma'am, we really appreciate it. Hey, can I book the 28th? Can I can I check in the day before?

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I can't even get in the day before so at this point Alex is thinking oh my god

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The globalists booked it out even further in advance. Of course now, let's see what happens

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Oh, they've even booked that now

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Okay, I can get just hold on and let's see how many nights I can get you oh my gosh

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You can get me one night right just the night before let me just double-check. I've gotten I can get two nights

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But I thought it's all sold out if I get in on the 28th, okay

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So what I can do is I can get three nights coming in on the 28th to the 31st

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When is it closed for the conference

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No, but you were saying that the hotel was sold out then

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It's sold out for the five nights, but I can do the 28th the 29th and the 30th. Oh wait

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I thought that I thought it was closed. I thought it was closed the 29th through the 3rd

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If it is, but I'm able to see I put it in for the five nights

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So all those nights were sold out that I wasn't able to get all five nights in a row

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Okay, great. Hold on one moment and that's the end of the show

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Wow

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Fucking Wow

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Oh

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Understand that the reason he can't get the room of the first place is because he booked five nights exactly

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Sometimes they're booked out on one of those nights and they're like, no you can't get all five nights. Yeah hotel is complicated

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Hotel work in terms of juggling rooms and stuff like that. You don't want to have people moving rooms. Of course not

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So yeah, he he learns at the end of that they I can get three nights, but not five. I

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I what an idiot I am struggling to come to terms with

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What the fuck has just happened the whole time? He's being such a dick about it

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Like all these globalists have bought out the hotel. It's like no you're just asking for something. They can't give you

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What a nice woman. It's amazing. What a nice woman

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So spoiler alert no point in time look after the do you believe Osama was killed line?

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She could have been like nah click click. That would have been totally fine

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Although you do get in trouble if you hang up on customers

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yeah, not if they say fuck or shit to you or

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If they ask you about Osama bin Laden and that is post 9-11 world Osama bin Laden truth. Yeah click

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So that'd be God now. I wish she had just like jumped in with him and been like no

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I don't I don't believe that

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Let me tell you why and then she bores him even more than he was boring us

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So that like but that you see he's really bad on his feet. And so yeah, he knows on some level

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I'm supposed to be talking about bin Laden this

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Prank call isn't going. Well, no, let's ask her what she thinks. Oh

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Terrible. Nope, that's no idea. That's the they say he died though. So whatever but she's also like you never know

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Yeah, it could be stop asking me weird questions

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I a guy who started with a regular voice and then went into a fake voice

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yeah, weird and then kind of got back to the regular voice and then

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She should have been like

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Do you think Kennedy's still alive? Oh totally and he went to Argentina to hang out with Hitler. Oh, that's possible, right? So

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That's the end of the second

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Yes

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And we go on to the third and you might expect some of this to carry over some of these things the chicken man

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The Marriott we could get days out of just the chicken

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The chicken man does actually come back up, but there's nothing new about it

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He does bring it back up briefly. The Marriott drama does not come back up

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No, of course not they would they would prefer if that episode was not not available Steve Puchenik and his not being around

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Doesn't come back up four stars cash being illegal doesn't come back up

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It's not Osama bin Laden doesn't come back up and you know why that's because he's dead

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But you know why that's a good theory. There's another reason I

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routinely say this is some of the biggest news but

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this

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Other than 9-eleven being an inside job and what that means that criminals run the government that work with al-qaeda

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Sounds right that's now out in the open

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But we're told that war is over move along Homeland Security's for the American people returning veterans

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This piece of news confirmed double vetted by Paul Watson

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Because I wanted to believe this wasn't true

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But it's on the official gov track

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sites

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So the Marriott's have been closed for a full week. I couldn't get that reservation

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Double-checked by Paul Joseph Paul Joseph Watson, who is also our travel agent, right?

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He booked us two flights and then he was like now we can't sit together and I was like build a bird build a bird

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This is FEMA camp shit. Okay the

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FM three dash three nine dot forty has come out this day in

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in history May 3rd

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2012 is this when we get all of our FEMA camp information

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This is where it all becomes very real to Alex and we'll discuss that document

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here in a minute, but on the way there

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Alex Jones brings up a bunch of building blocks for his argument that FEMA camps are coming

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Uh-huh, and throughout this clip. I'm going to pause it after each one and debunk each one

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Jesus dad. This is gonna be me running the gauntlet. I appreciate your thoroughness

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I'm so excited about this. He's so stupid. I know

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I can see it in the right. It was first leaked now. It's hidden in plain view

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This is so big

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Now we already know this. We already knew this. I've been to the urban warfare drills. I'd already observed it

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I didn't need the government and media to tell me what I already knew and I had the John Warner Defense Authorization Act

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So the John well, that's called corroboration Alex. You do need people to confirm the things so the John Warner Defense Authorization Act is in

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2007 JWDA

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It was actually largely pushed through by Republican support in the in the

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In the in the Senate. I have a list here of all the actual votes

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The only Republican to actually vote against it is Rand Paul, which I guess Alex would be pretty thrilled with

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I think it feel feel pretty awesome about like yeah my guy voted against this thing

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But Jeff Sessions voted for it. So that's interesting

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If you go through you just see like it's it's it's mostly Pence Mike Pence voted for it

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So a lot of the people who are now in Trump's circle

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Are all people who were in favor of it?

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All of the nays were Democrats with the exception of Ron Rand Paul named people like Conyers people like Dennis Kucinich

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And when was Kucinich around those are the glory day. Yeah, exactly. So it was in 2007

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It the reason that everyone was concerned about it

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I'm not sure if everyone was concerned about it

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But the reason that Alex takes exception with it is because inside this National Defense Authorization Bill

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You know, it has a bunch of the I read it all this shit. I'm very excited

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I do you want to just do a lightning round?

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I can't because some of its kind of complicated and that's where the wonk comes in. All right

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So it's basically an appropriations bill for funding for the year to the fiscal year

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2007 but it buried in it was an amendment to the insurrection act

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Which is you know?

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Governing the rules of what is an insurrection. Where can the federal government step in? Oh

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so it basically would make it easier for the president to send in military troops in the case of a terrorist attack an

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outbreak of some sort or some situation that I believe the language specifically is the president deems that it's

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uncontrollable by local authorities

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Local or state authorities the federal government can step in in the case of an outbreak natural disaster terrorist attack

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It just changed the language of the bill, but that is still

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Mmm, it it is murky. You know it Alex believed that it violates posse commentatis, of course, which it doesn't

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cuz it's an act of Congress and

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Posse commentatis says that except by an act of Congress the military cannot act in law enforcement capabilities

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This is an act of Congress doesn't violate posse commentatis

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So, you know it violates the spirit of posse commentatis

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It's very my very may well, but yeah, cuz posse commentatis really was always about

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Commenting on those posse's, you know and grilling with your boys. You know how you know how at the old job site?

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They're always commentating on them posse's. Absolutely. Oh, man. Look at that posse walking by so you are

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Maybe iffy on posse commentatis being broken. I say it's not of course

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It's not here's why it doesn't matter and Alex is a liar so many reasons

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So this was 2007 for the fiscal year 2008 and it doesn't matter because the 2008 defense authorization bill

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entirely repealed the changes

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Course you look into it the next year. They're like fuck that was a terrible idea

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We're gonna move on and Obama didn't in any way like violate posse commentatis

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He didn't act in some way is to declare an insurrection

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Everybody did not have any interest in it and whenever they could they were like fuck this

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Yeah, but yeah the next time that the bill came up it was discussed and they're like, let's get rid of that

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So they did the next year and this episode sessions votes for we got to change this episode is in 2012

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This is he was

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Completely four years after it doesn't matter anymore. Exactly. Gotcha. So he's got completely lying about that. Just completely made up bullshit the

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NDAA that's the same thing. That's what he's talking about

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The enemy Commission's Act the NCAA the enemy Commission's Act is not a real thing. Oh man lightning round it is

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Yeah, the enemy Commission's Act is not a real thing. What he's talking about is the Military Commission's Act, which is an act of 2006

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The act the Military Commission's Act also known as the MCA

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It waived habeas corpus rights to non-citizens detained as enemy combatants

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Many people believed that the the wording was too vague and in effect

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What it could do is allow military tribunals to waive habeas corpus rights to citizens

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Although if you actually read the wording of the bill, it says specifically aliens and if you want to you know

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That could be Raptors. It's unclear. I have no opinion whatsoever

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I think if you are born on American soil regardless of species, uh-huh

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So a lot of people were still upset about this and the ACLU was also on board being against it that the rule was too

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vague

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And it needed to be looked into so someone brought suit and it made it all the way to the Supreme Court in a

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2008 ruling of

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Boumediene versus Bush the Supreme Court ruled that the MCA

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Was unconstitutional and would restrict detainees habeas corpus rights and the right to appear in a federal court

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We did it even in the context of non-citizens. They deemed that that was unconstitutional

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The necessary change which is why they're kept in Cuba in Guantanamo Bay. Mm-hmm. Yeah, so there are still problems

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Yeah, but it's not this not doing not the enemy combatants or the Military Commission's Act

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He's talking about because they don't exist right the the necessary changes

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That were requested about the habeas corpus rules that were deemed unconstitutional

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by the Supreme Court were made in the Military Commission Act of

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2009 three years before the episode that we're listening to now and they affirmed that all

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Detainees had access to US federal courts to challenge their detention unless they were in Cuba in Guantanamo Bay, right?

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And that's the other thing we still haven't closed Guantanamo Bay, right? Well

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The other thing is that like a lot of these things are probably to save face more than they are to detain

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white

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Militia types there are more to avoid having to deal there more to allow themselves to detain right on white

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So everybody so again

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I want to go back to the NDAA because he mentioned that after the John Warner defense authorization bill, right?

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That is they're sort of intertwined, but I want to give Alex a little bit of credit

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Because there was also an NDAA the past in the end of 2011 for the year 2012

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Which brought the rule changes back? No, no

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the issue that people bring up with the NDAA of

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2012 is that it brought up the question of indefinite detention of enemy combatants, right?

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So it's a scary idea

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But most legal scholars who have chimed in on the matter have made the case that based on the wording of the act

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It doesn't the NDAA does not in any way amend the powers that already existed

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Due to the authorization of military force act that was launched at the beginning of the Iraq war, right?

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So the indefinite detention aspect of it is not real because within the authorization of military force act

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Which governs this?

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NDAA

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It's not indefinite detention the authority to detain ends with the cessation of hostilities

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So whenever the war is over detention must end which is why it is never going to be over, right?

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Yeah, that's the other problem. There we go

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But if we want to take what the actual problem is

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it's the idea of having a war against an ideology or some sort of nebulous concept right as opposed to the idea that if you're

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At war with let's say Sweden and you detain Swedes until the end of the war

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That's what the NDAA and the authorization of military force act allows, right?

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So the rule in the NDAA is

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Overridden by the MCA. Well and it reflects the authorization of military force. Gotcha. So it's not actually some sort of thing. That's

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In any way making things worse expanding powers or anything like that

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So you're saying it ain't no thing but a chicken man exactly

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All of it the model states health emergency powers act

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So the model state emergency health powers act

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Jordan this one

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This one's real fun. All right. This one isn't a real act. Here we go. So this was not a bill

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It was a suggestion of a bill

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It was written by Lawrence Gostin who was the director of the Center of Law and Public Health at Georgetown University

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in association with Johns Hopkins and the CDC

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Written it was written right after the anthrax scare after 9-11 right and so it was written when we were all so shiny and bright

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So young Oh people realize that we needed a systematic plan in order to deal with the potential bio-attack

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Especially in the case of like a contagious disease smart

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They could become a plague like if someone were to weaponize Ebola or something, right?

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You could end up with a complete disaster or the movie outbreak, right?

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And so this Lawrence Gostin realized the situation that could be ahead of us and so he wrote up a mock bill

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Model state emergency health powers act is not about a model or ideal state

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It's a model act right it is in the if you look at it because you can find it. It's available online

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It says fill senator's name here. It's a form of a bill right and there are a number of states that have now

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Implemented it or have brought it through and implemented bills that are similar to it

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That's right

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But they just use it as sort of a framework and they make their own changes that need to be made state by state basis

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And it's not a federal thing

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Every state has the right or not even the right they can decide to introduce it and pass it or not

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Alex should be thrilled with it. It's a state's rights thing. It's not federal. Alex has never seen schoolhouse rock

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It's not a federal power grab and it's not evil. But even that part of the song is not like

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I'm definitely not a bill. I'm a model fucking bill. I mean leave me alone. I'm an idea

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So the the issue with that though, is that it is not like this Lawrence Gostin

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He the way he wrote it was kind of short-sighted

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Yeah

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and the ACLU

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Was quoted as saying that the bill is written in a way that doesn't adequately protect citizens against the misuse of tremendous powers

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That it could grant in an emergency. That's smart, right? And so generally when these states have

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Implemented it or introduced it. There are there much more control

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Yeah, but that is not found in the model form of it. Gotcha. So Alex is just misleading people again

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Let's get to the next so the guy so Lawrence wrote it with the idea of like people will only use this for good

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And he didn't put the protections in there because he never considered

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Yeah, he didn't consider for a moment that it would be used for evil, right?

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He was like we're doing this to protect people. Mm-hmm. Gotcha

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the emergency centers

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establishment act lightning round

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The emergency standards establishment act is also known as HR 645

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This is legitimately just a plan for the Office of Homeland Security to establish regional refugee camps

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In recognition that there could be a natural disaster or attack and there may be a need to assist displaced people

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Yeah, these are built generally on quote closed military. I think it's closed is the way they put it

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military installations whenever possible

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Because the land is already owned by the government and there will always be there's already substantial infrastructure on these military bases

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There's already permanent structures built and they're closed military bases that aren't being used for anything else

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Yeah

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Plus smart generally military installations are built in relatively safe places in terms of flooding in terms of that stuff

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So it would be an ideal place to take displaced people when there's already a flood

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Let's say it would be perfect for that right? So Alex makes a big deal out of it. It's not it's nothing

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It's if you can read the entire bill, it's like four pages long and it's it's not at all scary

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But Alex, you know just wants to scare people by naming a bunch of bills that don't say what he thinks it says

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the civilian inmate labor camp

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Program

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So this one might be real. Oh, okay. This isn't good. No

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I didn't like hearing you say this might be real. This one might be real. Oh boy

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I've looked into it a little bit and from everything I can tell there are I mean look here's the fucking bottom line

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We have private prisons. We have for-profit prisons in this country

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So until Alex wants to start talking about that a little bit more. I don't really care about the inmate labor camp

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Well, I mean the situation with the wildfire right now

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We have inmates who are fighting this fire right 20 cents an hour or whatever, right?

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We're literally using slaves to fight fire for us. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, that's an issue. No, that's a big issue

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No, it's it's a huge issue and you can see that in so many instances of like

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Where they have people doing this essentially slave labor. Oh, yeah, and we have well

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I mean Hillary Clinton and Bill at the time where they were in the

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Arkansas governor's house. They had basically slave labor there. Absolutely. Absolutely. We have we have found a back route into

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into

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Relegalizing slavery through our private for-profit prison industry and it's a good thing that we have the most prisoners in the entire world

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Yeah, that's a good idea because we need slave labor, right? So Alex

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Conveniently fuck America, by the way, not conveniently, but he leaves off something that he brings up all the time

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Which I actually think is kind of strange

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but there's a thing called Rex 84 that he often brings up when it comes to the idea of these FEMA camps and

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He's bringing together of oppressive oppressiveness on populations. I'm just gonna read this here

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about Rex 84

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Readiness exercise 1984 or Rex 84 for sure was a scenario and drill created under the Reagan administration by Oliver North and the FEMA

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Deputy director John Brinkerhoff throughout the Reagan administration the black ops of the US military and intelligence agencies effectively ran wild

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especially in Latin America where Reagan's aggressive intervention many times verged on intentional genocide by right-wing death squads with CIA backing in

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This violent environment the scenario described in Rex 84 is rather disturbing

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It called for the rounding up of and preemptive detention of human rights and anti-war activists as well as Latino immigrants

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The ironic part about Rex 84, which many wing nuts seem not to grasp

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Is that the program was targeted against civil rights groups anti-war groups organized labor immigrants and minority communities in support of?

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Hegemonic capitalist right-wing American business interests FEMA camps are not as conspiracy theorists would have some grand plot against conservative American patriots

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Rather the only administration to seriously consider in turning dissidents was planning on doing so

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Against the sorts of left-wing activists that the American far-right despised the most who would have guessed those from rational wiki

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Citations and I did that is actually that's very accurate. Can't imagine any kind of a situation where that would be

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Misused no, so he's this fucking Christ. So there we have in this clip so far making it legal to do what Hoover did

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But that was back in Reagan's time. Yeah, exactly that plan didn't go into effect thankfully

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But we have the John Warner defense authorization bill NDAA military commissions act model state emergency powers act

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emergency centers establishment act and maybe the inmate labor camp

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racist racist at best so we have five out of the six that he mentioned that are completely bogus and he's

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misrepresenting and lying to his audience about two of them

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Specifically were overruled the next year. Yeah, and he knows that he has to know that

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Does he well know when I say he has to know that I mean, this is his job. He has to know this

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Oh, okay. That's a way better way of putting right. I'm guessing he's probably dumb and doesn't know it

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Of course, but he needs to know this it's important because he's riling up militia people. He's riling up

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It's like fucking weirdo anti-semites and racists right who think that they're going into a camp when he's lying about every single piece

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Of the way. So anyway, let's finish this clip

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The massive ramping up the last few years for internment specialists domestically those public ads

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Forgot I had another lightning round

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Nope so

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so Alex says that they're ramping up the hiring of

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Internment specialists and the only thing that he has to back this up is that they had a posting

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on go army goarmy.com and careers and jobs section for

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Internment resettlement specialists and you look into it

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If you google it at all you end up finding like blogs like this one renew America

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That FEMA camps seeking contractors and personnel to staff and can find here's the first thing this article says

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Caution, this is an exercise in ongoing citizen research and journalism

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Consider yourself inside the news office with some reports

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Verity is assured with others further corroboration or refutation must be done consider yourself also in the war room

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suppositions and suspicious

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Suspicions must also be considered and plans preparations and executions thereof made

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So basically he's a wingnut and none of this is real. Yeah, he's saying up top in the article that he wrote

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Hey warning. I don't know about this. I don't know a goddamn thing, but

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Imagine it was true. Let's put a plan in place together

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Just in case also one of these one of the authors on this renew America site where this article is posted is Larry

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Clayman who we know as the crazy lawyer. Yeah

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Dennis Montgomery bullshit. Oh, yeah

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Larry Clayman, where are you been? And if you scroll down you find links to places like the

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SH TF plan calm which is the shit hits the fan plan calm

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Which is a preparedness website where is covered with gold and silver sales ads is just completely covered

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But there's one ad on it that I think is very special hide your guns Big Berkey

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Big Berkey makes a come on man. Yeah, they have where your imaginary pants. Yeah. No, that's gusset

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Oh that's gusset. Big Berkey was the the water people. That's right that Alex dropped like a hot potato Big Berkey

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Yeah

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So that like I don't think that there's any evidence that I can find that they were ramping up any of that

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There just was a posting for an internment specialist and that's reasonable because there are internment positions

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In ongoing theaters a lot of well, not just that but that would be valuable for any number of refugee camps

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Oh sure, and even in in the United States whenever there are like Katrina

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Yeah people in the Superdome and absolutely so anyway

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I'm getting big chills right now this morning when Watson sent me this document and we went and checked to have a fever

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Confirmed and checked it in the army registry that it is indeed a document that was marked classified

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That has now been leaked. It was never marked classified

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And that it's on major gov track sites and contractor sites and is confirmed and ties in with the other FM 3-39.40

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4-4-9-9 or 6-4

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He says that the document that he's talking about the biggest news in the world ties in with 3.39-40

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It is that there isn't a second document. This is the exact same thing

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Yeah, all right

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Absolute confirmation

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Could you call Mary out again?

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You get a witness that says they got out of a basement and that the guy was burying little kids in there

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And you go you get a warrant

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You catch the guy when he's walking on his front door you put him in handcuffs you call in the specialist

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You go in you pull up the floorboards in the basement. There's a bunch of dead kids in there

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That's what this is

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We just took the floorboards up man, and it's there. God

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What does this say? It says we better beat these people and take this country back

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Yeah, so I mean he's already there in that narrative

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I really think he wants to keep dead kids in his basement

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Like the more he describes that the more it gets closer and closer to him like

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Making a plan right you know yeah, I I don't disagree. He's the does get vivid at times

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Um, but I want to I want to take a step back and just really stretch my stretch my shoulders

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Wap-wap-wap-wap-wap-wap that is shark. Yeah, I feel pretty good about that research

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Read a lot of doc. Could you could you be a little bit more pleased with yourself Dan?

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I can't I can't what can't be I will I will be in a minute actually okay this next clip is

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I would actually I would like to send this clip to Alanis Morissette because I think this clip is the definition of irony it might

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Actually, I'm working. Oh, yeah, okay. This is crazy ironic. I've worked in radio stations. I've been in 590 as a guest

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When they bring in a psyop officer with a book he's published

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And the guy confronts

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You know getting off on the fact that he's a secret agent

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I just said man you're a traitor and he was in there running psyop saying this is like five years ago

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That's all Gruckheimer says we kill women women and children

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But and then in the hall trying to trying to intimidate me

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So I just blew up at the guy and told him he was a traitor

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I mean just because I want to say something just because you've been brought into this as a

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Senior police officer or military officer or bureaucrat or contractor?

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You're being fed psyops and lies as well your your futures being destroyed

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Interesting Alex. That's amazing Alex. That's so crazy Alex write that down

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Yeah, write down step-by-step what happened and then write Steve pachannik in there, and you're like oh

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Fuck from our 2015 investigation. We've seen how Steve pachannik is running a crazy con on Alex

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Yeah, and like exactly what he's saying. There is what happened. It's exactly what happened to him. It's crazy

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He's so gullible isn't that gorgeous the people who think that they're immune to con men are always the ones who go

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We're actually by it hook line and sinker. We're gonna get to Alex saying something very similar

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Oh here in a minute now before we do Alex has one more bullshit piece

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I still think he gave that Nigerian prince all his money. Oh, yeah, yeah absolutely met him at a bar and did it again

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Yeah

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My friend yeah, so anyway Alex has one more bullshit piece of evidence of the FEMA camp stuff

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They admit they they're gonna use troops from 15 nations during civil emergencies to deal with insurrection and

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Terrorist in leo 9 FEMA gov type in leo 9 FEMA gov. You'll read it

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I mean this is so hardcore the master plan to use us against each other to kill each other

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So what do you think about that? I?

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Mean if that is your master plan it seems like it would be messy mm-hmm

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There are like more effective ways to do it there are cheaper ways to do it. I assume then

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organizing a mass war against internal forces yeah, so

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But do you think Alex is telling truth?

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9 and leo 9 you can type it into the website of course

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He's telling the truth if I can research it which I won't but I can that means he must be telling the truth

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I did oh you should not have done that I googled it

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No, you can't google that and what you find you have to go to the website one of the things I got right

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This is actually dhs.gov one of the things you find is a press release dated July 24th

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2009 three years before Alex's episode

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We're listening to right now, and it's straight up from the Homeland Security website says for immediate release

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This is a press release yeah that they put out the Department of Homeland Security will launch on Monday the five-day national level exercise

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2009 and leo 9 the first national level exercise to focus on terrorism prevention in conjunction with federal state local

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tribal private sector and international partners quote

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coordinating with our partners across the United States and around the world is critical to protecting the nation from terrorist attacks as Secretary Janet Napolitano

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The national level exercise allows us to test our capabilities in real time to confine and strengthen our strategies for preventing terrorist attacks

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This is something that had been going on for a number of years

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It's it had a different name before that, but this is just a joint exercise. That's done

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It doesn't always involve foreign countries, and it's not 15 countries

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International partner nations will include Australia Canada Mexico and the United Kingdom the Navajo Nation will also participate

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Okay, yeah, and and what it is seems pretty straightforward

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What it is is just training exercises the as I understand it they come up with a scenario

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And they have them run through the scenario yeah, and how they would coordinate with each other and yeah

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It's in their their war games in like you like in real life war games in right as opposed to us

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It's like what the idea behind jade helm was yeah the like you can't train

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In Iraq you know you can't do that there. It's not a great idea. No, and it's not gonna get yourself killed

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It's not for targeting civilians starship troopers come on you train on your own turf

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You know to get better at doing things elsewhere or even to get better at doing things here because terrorists do exist here, so

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This is bullshit

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There aren't 15 nations. I can find no evidence of that anywhere. I see four plus the Navajo Nation

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Which which would the other ten be?

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All the axis of evil okay all of them wait Iran new axis of evil or old axis of evil

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This is 2009 so Germany Italy. Oh boy

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Wait, Japan access powers wait. No what?

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Well, maybe actually actually yes, those would absolutely be

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Along with France Spain and why not Luxembourg they got a huge terrorism issue what a difference 60 years makes

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Absolutely so Alex Lupin the third is stealing shit, and they got to have some Interpol working on that

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Oh Alex is reading. He hasn't read this loop on the third Alex has not read this fm 3-39

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40 I know that to be the case because it's long. It's very long see that was that was all I needed to know

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It's hundreds of pages all I need absolutely didn't read it course not but here

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He gets lost in the fantasy didn't even make it all the way through the Hobbit the Hobbit Dan

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That's not even Lord of the Rings. We're talking about the Hobbit is a fun adventure story

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You should be able to get through that in the evening. He read the chapter titles. Yeah, that's the headline of a novel

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So but here chapter titles the headline of the novel

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It's certainly true in around the world in 80 days those long ass titles. Oh, yeah, which past part two finds work

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I'm a big fan of that tighten it up. I loved the chapter titles from

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blood meridian by Cormac McCarthy

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Which was just a short synopsis of the you would read the chapter titles and be like I got it the judges fucked up

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All right in this clip. Alex judge is the devil we get it McCarthy. That's one of the synopsis. You've got one theme

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Let's go. So in this next clip Alex fantasizes about being tortured

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Once the detainees have been processed into the internment camp the manual explains how they will be re-educated

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with particular focus on targeting political dissenters

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like left-wing dissenters

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Well, that was expressing support for US policy the re-education process is the responsibility the psychological

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operations officer also known as a traitor against America

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I should add whose job it is to design up products that are designed to pacify and acclimate detainees or

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DC's as they're called to accept US or IR facility authority regulations

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That's UN ladies and gentlemen, according to the document. That's a quote the manual is the following roles that are designed

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to the SIOP team

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Identifies malcontempts trained agitators and political leaders in the facility. Oh, yeah

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Oh, yeah, and it turned me over to the absolutely

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Yeah, well good luck good luck

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Promise the coward torturers will sit back while troops are dying bringing people into these pigs blow up all of my pigs

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Yeah, so I would never touch them chickens though. If I love those chickens FM. I'm the chicken Alex FM

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Yes, see if you could do it again

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FM three dash three nine dot forty is a field manual for

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operations in internment in foreign theaters it talks about

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host nations repeatedly

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And what these conspiracy theorists such as Alex and hundreds of other

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Websites that you can find if you google it they misrepresent something that's very important

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There are a couple passages about operations. Yeah, we've talked a little bit about that before right

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I'm gonna talk about it a little bit more. Okay, just because it is it is what's part of the lighting bound

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It is this isn't lightning. This is thunder

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This is the afterlife. Oh, man. So all right, then they talk about how poetic son of a bitch

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they have to change operations from

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What they would do in a foreign theater in the case of domestic operations

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Including the operations that they might use this in or

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operations that address consequences of natural or man-made disasters accidents terrorist attacks or incidents in the United States and its territories

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Right that makes complete sense

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yeah, that is something that you would need because otherwise you're gonna have mass chaos right and

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what they do these conspiracy theorists is

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They conflate

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the most of

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the guidebook and the couple passages about

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domestic operation right they don't realize that all of the stuff about psyops about

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Finding malcontents and all that stuff is stuff that is very very germane to foreign wars

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Yeah, there are tons of generals who have gone on record and said I wish that we had had this

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When I was when I was in this when I was in the shit, right?

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the the

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Basically, all it is is a reflection of lessons learned from Vietnam and Cambodia

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though those times

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We had we had instances like all of them when they tried to detain people you had you had political dissenters in there

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And there's there is a better way to deal with them

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Then violence right was the only strategy back then. Yeah, absolutely

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I don't understand why it is they why why are we even trying with conspiracy theorists?

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Why are we no no, I mean anytime they talk about bills or anything like that and the conspiracy. It doesn't matter

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They're going to find a way right like the only way to not deal with conspiracy theorists is if you don't

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publish this information

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Which you should right but if you don't publish it that means the conspiracy theorists gonna be like

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What are they hiding from or if it gets found then it's like you're trying to write this right what we need to what?

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We need to accept is that conspiracy theorists on this level are just like hoarders

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Yeah, like these are people with serious depression or something along those lines

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Well, not all there. I'm not saying all of them right in the same way that not all

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Hoarders are people with serious some people have a great collection, right?

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But it's very similar

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No

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it is and actually I want to get let me get through this document and then I want to get back to what you're talking about

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Cuz I think there's an important point that we need to make. Okay, so I'm reading this from foreign policy

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And that's FM dash three eight nine three nine zero dot sixty nine. That's what we're gonna do

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Yeah, nice at the beginning of the Iraq War and even through the 2008 surge

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There were few guidelines and regulations to help soldiers conduct these massive detention operations

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According to a former military officer who conducted detainee operations and internment facilities in Iraq quote

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I would have loved to have this field manual five years ago

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He said the vast majority of guidance in the manual is intended for use in foreign theaters

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He said noting that only a handful of paragraphs from three hundred twenty six page manual address domestic operations of any kind an army

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Spokesman speaking on background said the current spate of online postings had taken passages from the manual significantly out of context

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conflating wartime operational guidance such as psychological operations course peacetime operations in which a limited number of the manuals

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Principles would be applied on US soil in exceptional cases such as the relief efforts after Hurricane Katrina

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Right now granted the Hurricane Katrina. There was some bungling or what have you Oh

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Absolutely, but there's last paragraph in here. I think is the most salient one

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I think it'll lead us to what I wanted to get to with your point. Yeah, and that is

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radicalization is driven in large part by

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victimization narratives whether it's fear of Big Brother watching big banks looting big government seizing one's guns or a big global war on Islam a

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document like FM 3-3

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940 is read as a confirming the worst fears of an unusually wide spectrum of political dissenters radicals and would be violent

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extremists from the right left and other gasoline meat match, so

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The radicalization is driven in a large part by victimization narratives is really the most important piece there

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And that is what you experience every day listening to Alex Jones. Yeah now

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I want to I want here's the point that I wanted to bring up. I

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Don't think the questioning the government. We're being skeptical is at all unhealthy and I don't think that's what you were saying

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absolutely not but I am getting a

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load of

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Like Alex says this frequently that conspiracy theory he especially Roger Stone and him been bringing this up because the JFK files are coming out

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Right like that. Although the ones that were most important did not come out

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No, which is like what a cocktease the American government. Well, it might come out in 180 days

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Nah now, but I've heard Alex make this point

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I've heard Roger Stone make this point and then on the supposed left

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I've heard Jimmy Dore make this point on Twitter

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the idea that conspiracy theorist was a term popularized by

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the government and the CIA

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After the JFK assassination to tar and feather all the people who had questions about it and make them look like crazy people

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Maybe you guys made yourselves look like crazy people

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Well, that's possible. But also if you look into it, if you do deep dive on it, you will find that

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The term conspiracy theorist has had the exact same connotation that it has

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currently

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dating back to the

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Mid to late 1800s, of course

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There are instances of it being used in the exact same slightly pejorative or slightly dismissive way right dating back over

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150 years it's nonsense this idea that the the

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The government was like a we're gonna use this term and it's gonna catch on like wildfire

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But is anything more appropriate than conspiracy theorists thinking that conspiracy theorist is a conspiracy bingo

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And fantastic and it perpetuates victimization narratives which fuel radicalization

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Absolutely, and that's what we're experiencing in the world today

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And that's why Trump is our president

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But you know the one thing that it is what should be taken away from that is the things that were listed

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are all

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Things like I don't like the government isn't coming to take your guns like that kind of a thing

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But they are going to make you not be able to get an abortion. Yeah fucking Christ. So it's all yeah

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No, but my point being the things that they did describe are what radicalizes people and they're things that the government has done

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To us right and that is why we are radicalized like fear of the big banks taking your money

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They are right. They absolutely are right

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Maybe they should stop that and we wouldn't be afraid of them right you could you could conceivably now

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This is crazy dad, right?

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You could make that go away foreign policy did not do the best job of coming up with examples

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Right, and I'm I would be more into eternal war against an ideology. That's gonna radicalize people and dude

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I'm entirely remiss in if I don't point out that like a lot of the things that conspiracy theorists are

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conspiracy theorizing about are things that you know

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Like there's some history to people doing that like false flag narratives have a root in reality, right?

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That's stuff that happened

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60 70 years ago right like a lot of the instances that they give are like the Gulf of Tonkin and stuff like that

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That's a long time in the past

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They have to scramble to turn current events into false flags in order to be like they're still doing it

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Of course and when you do that when you have that mentality you end up saying things like Sandy Hook is fake

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By the way, Alex Jones the other day said Sandy Hook was fake

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In 2017, he said Sandy Hook was fake. You gotta give the man credit for going back on it. Absolutely

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You know why cuz he probably heard Steve puchenik say that someone scared him out of believing and he's like fuck you

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Puchenik, of course, right? He got course. Yeah cucked out by Steve

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Like and also who's gonna stop him right who gives a shit and it's not like you're literally the only people who are like

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You need to stop this guy or at least of all the crime or at least like we need to pay attention to him

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And that will stop him

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Yeah, not like not like kill him not like take him off the air or anything but pay attention to the things

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He's actually saying or and how much damage he's causing and if he's doing something that he should be arrested for which he has

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Arrest him right or the thing where you arrest him being an accessory to Larry Nichols blackmailing Congress and Mueller

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Just a whole fucking speaking which now that those charges are coming down. Yeah, we got to call Larry back. Oh

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But we're recording I don't want to do that. I don't either

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We're recording this on Sunday and the so we don't know who the indictments are for also recording this on Sunday

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So we don't know what Roger Stone's response is going to be to being kicked off Twitter

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That'll come in if he hasn't tweeted about it yet. No, actually he did

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Of course, he tweeted from his bring me Roger Stone documentary. Okay, so would very nice someone tweeted at like support or whatever that

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Roger Stone is tweeting from he's moved over to his other account. Yeah, and he wrote back. I've always been here slap

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Which I love gotta give you gotta give him style points at least called him slap dick slap dick is solid

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It makes me think of Jeff Jarrett for a wrestler. Jeff. Jerry used to call people slap nuts

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Which I loved they need hit people with a guitar filled with cocaine

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Like El Cabong. Yeah, basically, okay, but it was filled with cocaine

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How do we know what El Cabong's? Oh, it did explode a fair point. So

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Let's move on to this next clip. We got a couple left

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I think we've done a pretty good job of debunking a lot of this

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I think you crushed it a lot of these narratives are in the lightning round. You got five four six my friend

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Well, and six the sixth I was even like, I don't know. Yeah, it looks like it could be real

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You would absolutely have won on the few six. You would have won on the feud for sure

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What about on the twenty five thousand dollar pyramid the top five answers on the board?

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All of them are false hot dog

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So let's get into this in this next clip

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We get a further extension of the mythology of Alex Jones's father the CIA dentist. Okay?

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And some of us aren't gonna make it through this but that is not what matters freedom and dignity and honor and innocence

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Every time I look at my children other people's children how innocent and good they are. I

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Realized that we just absolutely should be honored

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To fight this tyranny and should not be afraid at any level

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The only fear you need to have is of not while you're alive this one time standing up against these people in this test

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But this is so real fake crying again. Yeah, and again

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It's accelerated. It's built to a fever crescendo. My father

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Was approached by a patient of ten years

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Who revealed to him? He was a Homeland Security spy and wanted him to spy on his

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Patience why my dad?

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teeth played along with it to discover more and found that it was real called the card number all of it and then went to

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Talk to the dentist at work under him and they had all been visited at their homes

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Okay, my other homeland security. Okay, ladies and gentlemen

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the average person gets approached by this and gets on a power trip if you're out there listening and think you're special a preacher a

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Government

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Infra-guard corps person you think you're special you're always told that you're known as a dupe useful idiot

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Moron, okay, and the type of people, you know, my dad said that this person, you know is is

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very narcissistic

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very weak

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He said the homelands career people he talked to were the same way. Well, yeah, we're firing an army of just scum

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They I mean these people are filth, but they've got our military working for him

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So what are they gonna do when most the military is awake?

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They're gonna have stunts they'll blow up Chicago with a nuke or they'll attack a bunch of bases with

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With rogue groups and put patsies on TV and then say we attacked the military five years later

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I can confirm Chicago still here. Is it? Yeah, it's still here

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Okay, and also I think at the end there is I don't want that to happen. I don't either at the end there

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he's doing a really good job of

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sort of preemptively

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contextualizing any white supremacist militia attack as

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Global it's trying to pin an attack on them. Of course. It's perfect. So anyway, that's dumb, but I

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Can't I can't hang with this narrative about his dad and here's why

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Do you just one reason? Well, I mean the one big one is come on

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The more specific that's a solid reason the more specimens razor would suggest that come on is the correct reason

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I have two really big points. The first is why are they trying to get all these dentists? Who's gonna who's

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We we don't know what his patient base is. That's true

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but still

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He said come on. He said that they were trying to get a bunch of other dentists

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Well, if one of his patients is a DHS spy for 10 years for 10 years, right, right

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So who else is going there? I assume there are FBI spies going to him totally a

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Russian agents going to him at that point. Are they all spying on his Whelan dentist drug dealers?

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Are they all spying on Alex's dad who isn't right at this point? Yeah, so here's the other problem

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If we are to believe the things that Alex says about his dad

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The globalists tried to get him when he was like 16 and he rebuffed their advances

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Yeah

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So then he grows up and he becomes a dentist and the the globalists try to get him again

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Of course knowing that they're fishing in a dry. Well, this guy has already said absolutely not to your genocidal plans

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Not only that they're fishing in

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The dentist well, right? He's a dentist. Mm-hmm

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No, this is this is the jingle writer running guns to right Venezuela again, right? It's just I'm trying to mythologize

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Yeah, what are you fucking doing? It's nonsense, but it's fun. It's fun

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How would he spy on people? He's a dentist. Is he just gonna like even if he starts asking questions?

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No, cuz you knock them out and then look at their cell phone

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I don't know. It's dumb below that actually could work cuz you know if they're knocked out

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You can use the thumbprint on the iPhone. You can crack that shit real easy or the eyeball scan

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What's easier is social engineering not hacking. That's the trick. Sure. I watched the movie hackers

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It's a good movie. It's not a good movie

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So my dad is a religious studies professor and if I mythologized him to the extent that Alex does his

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Dentist father I would have to say that my dad wrote the Bible

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Well, what's quite frankly what you don't know is that your dad was approached by God

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And so were his so were the three dentists that worked underneath them. Sure. They wanted it to spy

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Of course, they wanted to spy on the devil right on his sort of Alex degenerate son. Yeah

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So that's nonsense a little bit later. Alex gets a call and this call is very rational

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It's a very reasonable person. Okay, and Alex thinks that he's a spy

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Jay, thanks for calling and holding

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What's your view on?

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Civilian inmate labor camps and people being arrested for their political abuse and held by the army at concentration camps

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well, I definitely think that

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That there are legitimate issues like NDAA. That's legitimate policy. I think that presidential director 51 is

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So I want to stop there. He's off to a good start. I want to just stop right there and

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Let's take a real

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Focused look he said that there are legitimate issues

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And then in one of the things that he referenced as a legitimate issue is NDAA. Yeah, remember that

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But with regard to this particular document, I would like you and or Paul Joseph Watson to point us specifically to where

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This mentions anything about CONUS because I have found this document on an army website army pub

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Army dot mill. This is not a top-secret document and I feel it says restricted. Oh, yeah

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I should just settle down you're calling in trying to run a shy up here on our audience

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It's legal to have the TSA all over the country doing warrantless checkpoints and training police to search bags

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Okay, that's been ruled over and over again

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We've got regular military and Marines right where you're out there in California in the news

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Running DWI checkpoints 30 miles from base on US citizens. That's

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Homeland brigade saying they'll pull triggers on citizens. I've been to countless urban warfare drills and you're calling up

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so

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He said that there's an article in the Army Times where they say that they're gonna start pulling triggers on the civilians

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I can't find this article, but I think he would probably just say that they took it down

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Of course now when you revealed it, right and then I'm saying even though it was their plan to put it out openly

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Right to mock cy up the people who were

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Sigh off asleep sigh up gotcha and then he says that he's been to these drills and stuff like that

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I can't confirm that I don't you I mean I could say that I've done everything. It sounds like a urban militia

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Drill sounds more likely sounds like my dad

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Was spy

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Dentists my your dad is God though. We should have him through hairs on fire

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You shouldn't be upset and you started out by saying in DAA is legitimate

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He didn't he said that it's legit. It's a legitimate bill

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He said that there's issues and that was listed as one of them right Alex is intentionally twisting his words, of course

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Across the political spectrum the entire world even the communist London Guardian said this is unprecedented

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evil the secret arrest of US citizens

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Unbelievable you think PDD 51 is great

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I guess so

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Let me guess what type of police officer are you and do you feel like this is okay?

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Because you've been let in to some of it and told the shy op that was crafted for you

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So Alex is at this point decided that he is a cop or something like that right and is working with the glass icon, right?

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No, no one said this is okay

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What I'm saying to you is this particular document is not what you're making it out to be and you need to tell us

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Specifically where it mentioned the continental United States within this document

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You are misleading your audience like you did before with 20 minutes with the president. Okay, I wanna hold on one second

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No, so apparently hold on one second

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No, apparently previous to this in the episode. He had tried to do a satire piece

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Where he pretended to interview the president, of course Clint Eastwood style, right?

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That was a mock interview with the president that we had a computer glitch for a minute

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The thing went on the bottom that happens. It was like 20 pages long. Look. I'm trying to find something here

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Where is the article? This is a I just read to people. I just read from the document

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In the US we read that part and it says identifies malcontents trained agitators political leaders

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Within the facility who may try to organize resistance to create disturbances develops and executes

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indoctrination programs to reduce or remove

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antagonistic attitudes

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Identifies political activists provides loudspeaker support such as administrative announcements of Syria

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So but none of none of that tell tell the nice lady at customer service all of this

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She needs to know but none of this is in relation to

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The whole thing that the caller was asking is where does it say in the United States?

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And it does say it a couple times

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But if you get into the context of where it says those things

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It's not in nefarious ways right and you have to really stretch in order to make it that right

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Building instructions were necessary helps the military police commander control detainee and DC populations during emergencies

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Plans and executes a program that produces an understanding and appreciation of US policies and actions

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So you don't deny that this doesn't exist

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You're saying that

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Well, I mean what's misleading tell me

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Well, what I'm saying is this Alex. I'm not

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Hold on buddy boy

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Misleading people you tell me in this document what I'm misleading people yet. Don't use that Barry Mason garbage

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Where you sure I do some sugar and use everything I do satire. This is not satire

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So I got one more thing for you

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I have I recently had a conversation with friend of the show far out and he was talking about the idea of

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Interviewing Alex and I told him though. I've been studying him for almost 11 months in complete dedication

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I would never want to talk to him. Of course not and this clip is

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Demonstrative of why cuz he would just yell at you. There's no point to it. No, and so anyway, let's finish up this clip

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And then we talk of that out a little more

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Okay. Now I'm talking straight to you right now

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I'm asking you what is it true about this groundbreaking FM 3-39 dot 40?

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What is in this document?

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Okay, that is not ground. It is ground

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breaking

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Ground-breaking she already knew this cuz I've been to these drills and seen it without it being you know

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Admitted that they are saying this will be used domestically as well in DoD support to u.s

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Civilian authorities for domestic emergencies and domestic law enforcement and other activities. I'm gonna use a police officer

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Do you ever use the military and warrant service?

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Tell us page and paragraph in the PDF where we can find it in reference to the United States of America

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I I have the document. I mean, I've just read from all get Paul on the air and have him

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Tell us where it's at cuz he read it. He wrote about it. Hold on

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Are you saying sir? They we've got all the links where they are doing the hiring and saying it's for domestic operations

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Well, I appreciate that. Listen, I you're not gonna answer my questions

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Are you have you worked with the military as a police officer in domestic operations? I call to ask you about

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That's enough. I'm done with you. You think you're part of the system you watch what happens in this country

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You trust all the American people and you shy up techniques on them. You go ahead and do that, buddy

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So I would like to say at the end of this is you look what's gonna happen to the country you use psyop

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Techniques on people they look what's gonna happen

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Five years later. Look what's happened Alex

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You use psyop techniques on your audience and we know this because one of your biggest

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Influences is a psyop officer

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So and even then even if it's not even if you don't want to call it psyops

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All well, even then all psyops really are propaganda propaganda. Yeah

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Yeah, it's absolutely like when you say conduct a psyop on people to get them to like

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American policy it's just like well in the same way that Alex Jones says you should like Trump

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Right and gives all these bullshit reason. The only difference is that these are enemy combatants. Yeah, and it's a war setting

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Where it's Alex is doing it to civilians. Yeah

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If anybody is worse, I think this might be and I'm not I'm not advocating for the death of Alex Jones

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But if I were does sounds like a sentence that I would start

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Yep, if I were designing a perfect world if I were designing a civilization that I think would function perfectly

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Perfectly. Well, the show designing women would be first and for me Shaikh Taylor. Absolutely blood worth Thomas

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One of the things that I I would say that actively and consciously engaging in propaganda should be an executable offense

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Because of the amount of disasters that you create the amount of misinformation

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The how many people you lead astray through attractive but deceitful

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News prevents like it is a disaster

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there is the possibility of us really ever coming together and working towards common goals is

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Completely knocked off track by people like Alex Jones. Absolutely. I'm not saying again

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I'm not saying he should even be arrested because that's not the world we live in but in a utopia

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We would really look at the idea that well are willingly misleading people

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X like executing people might be I that's counterproductive Roman prison. That's that's counterproductive as well

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Well, I know but that's why we do this show the way we do it

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Well, what we should have is fucking classes in school, right? That's like here's how you recognize propaganda rhetoric

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now the reason we can't have those classes is because religious people would go hog wild well and because then they'd have to be like

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Okay. Well, we know religion isn't real, right?

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We've reached an ouroboros kind of because also the reason that you can't like get the schools to work

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As well as they should it's because because people like because they're propagandists

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Vaccines or any fucking bullshit. These people are stupid schools can't run

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Well when we have things like standardized testing no child left behind

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Common Core shit and the funding isn't there like you just can't you can't teach kids what they need to know to grow up

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understanding logic and rhetoric those two things are

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Critically important as you need to understand how to deconstruct an argument number one that you cannot get through life without or else you will

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Be tricked by people like this ding-dong right second. You need to understand read our buddy Eddie Bravo. He's never gonna make it out

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Oh poor Eddie poor Eddie sweet sweet Eddie you stupid bastard Eddie

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But you also need to understand rhetoric because you need to understand rhetorical tricks people use like Alex shutting down every single time

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This guy tries to talk and then pretending that he's not answering his question, right?

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That is a rhetorical technique in order to silence your opposition

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You need to know these tricks because you need to know when people are using them and then you can take the next step

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Which is why are they using them?

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And we go back to your religious argument people would shut down all of that discussion because they know secretly

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That their argument doesn't make sense. Of course not. So yes, absolutely

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Absolutely school shit. Okay, I'm gonna walk back the idea of killing propagandists. I I think I like where your heart is

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That right? I'll tell you why this is this is the perfect role

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River cuz sooner or later you and I are gonna agree on somebody to kill right and let me take

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As I walk that back. I still think in a utopia. It would be a very serious deal to be a propagandist

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Whereas now it's just like he's making money, but I think I forgot my thought

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I I it's a good it's a good thought which is I lean back more towards

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I just remember my thought. Okay, but go ahead. I lean back more towards

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the

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War of the Three Kingdoms in China whenever you had legalism and Taoism and Buddhism and all of those things

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I played dynasty warrior. There you go. Yeah

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mainly because those all of those were

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Built around the idea of how is it that we get an effective government?

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Like if you read the Dow mainly it's about not not like how you should live and how you should treat people

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But if I were the king, here's how not to be an asshole about going with things exactly

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and all of that really boils down to if you are running a competent government where

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the rule of law applause

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The rule of law applies equally to everybody where people are protected where they feel safe where they have their basic needs met

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Where all of this stuff is stuff?

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They don't have to fret about and this was before Maslow even came up with his hierarchy of needs exactly

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Yeah, and you will wind up not having to worry about these propagandists total

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Well, yeah

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that's a good point because because the root of all of this the root of all of the the why we believe in the

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Propagandists the why we believe in religion the why we believe in all this shit is because life is miserable and nobody is doing anything

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Victimization narrative there we go

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It comes down to that like you're miserable because you don't have your needs met and you need to find someone to blame

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Alex Jones comes up with someone to blame for you and you jump on it simple. Yeah, so my thought that I got back

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Yes, was that?

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It's not about the Dow. I don't want to know man

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Well, I don't know how I can relate it to that. But Alex doesn't believe what he's saying

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Yeah, and I know that because if he did he would be calling for

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taking the streets absolutely if he legitimately believed that this was a

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Government document that showed that they were intending to incarcerate

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Dissidents in America in FEMA camps and separate agitators like himself

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He would call for an overthrow of the fucking government and not in an info war

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Well, I mean the easiest way to point to that who are the people who really believe that

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Abortion is murdering babies the people who are out there. Mm-hmm

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Like if you really believe that you are murdering a live thing that is insane

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Yeah, right

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So the people who are going out there and protesting and doing all that shit blowing up clinics at the very least

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They believe what bullshit they're selling. I don't know if we want your look. I don't want to say at very least I don't

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I don't I don't want to use that as like a feather in the cap for there enough

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But they you don't you don't question the authenticity of their belief

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Whereas Alex it's clearly a con game that he's yeah, because if he did believe the things he believes

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He would be acting completely differently and then secondarily he would be running his own militia. Absolutely. Yeah and secondarily

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The problem with that is like we can sort of assess what Alex Jones really believes and what he doesn't

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But what's scary is to think about the logic that would be in a person's mind if they actually believed

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Yeah, because if they actually believed him, they're the ones who are going to take to the streets

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They're the ones who are going to a fucking pizza place

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Let's take let's take that out of it. Even though that definitely is a piece of it

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Let's just say old people or people who aren't going to storm places with guns

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See now in my perfect society. It would be an executable offense to be an old person. Oh boy gonna go into

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Watch the new Blade Runner. I haven't I want to see it so bad

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So what I'm saying is if you actually believed in Alex Jones logically

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The thing that you should do is give him literally all of your money

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Mm-hmm

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because if you believe that he is the person who has the best chance of taking down these

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Globalists that he keeps scaring you about then your money is useless if he loses

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so the only

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Logical rational thing to do would be poor everything you can into him and do everything

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He tells you to and that's kind of scary. Well, I mean your money would be worthless if he wins too. No

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Well, he overthrows the government. No, no, no, you're gonna have to issue he's gonna shut down the Fed

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No, because if you listen to him you would have bought gold too. Oh, that's true

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So that would take care of you give him all your paper money, right?

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Give up your $10 Liberty coin or your max bucks. Yeah, whatever. Ooh, so like that's the kind of stuff that I when I listen to

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This that's what really scares me is the idea of rationality in his listeners like a twisted rationality

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irrational

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Logic but that's why so many people give to like your your wealth glitterbug churches

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Yeah, your wealth churches prosperity goes prosperity gospel is the biggest and best con in the history of the totally

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We should do an episode about Jim Baker. So we could fucking mess that shit. Yeah, maybe we'll do that for here in the future

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yeah, I'm getting

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run down on a

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Carrie's anti-semitism. Yeah, run it running me down man

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It was trying to get some work done the other night and

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I was watching like a majority report videos as I was getting work done because I love Sam Cedar

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Yeah, right. And one of the things that was recommended to me because I have terrible YouTube habits was

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Carrie Cassidy is live

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She was interviewing a guy live or this guy was interviewing her live. Okay, I watched about 20 minutes of it

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Who boy not good. I mean it was a lot of rehashing of stuff. We already know

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Yeah, but at the same time while it was going live there's a chat room on

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YouTube for the live streams. Oh, that's trouble and these people weren't joking they were in

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It was wild. That's scary. Also. No updates about Jim semi-van. Ah

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Man, so we have just a couple clips left Jordan and we can wrap this up because this is a classic knowledge fight episode

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We're already at two and a half hours. Yeah, this is this is back in the good old days

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Yeah, it's the weekend as we record this happy Monday to you and yours

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So in this next clip Alex Jones takes another call

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wherein they shit on the previous caller who was completely rational and Alex talked over and

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Decided was a cop for no reason. Of course

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Young man like this guy just called and he's either a fraud or a total goof or doesn't have a clue to what's going on

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in his life or notice he wouldn't say if he works for the military I

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I thought my gut says he's like a deputy liaison

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To the Pentagon or Infra garter FBI because you know, they do that and give them a little extra money

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Listen, buddy, you're nothing special. They tried to recruit every dentist. My dad works with this is big. Okay, they've never done this before

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They're building up for a giant offensive against this country

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They're even going up to have to bring in foreign troops to enforce it because I'll tell you my whole family's military

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I have I have sons in the military been in the military

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Afghanistan Iraq and I'm gonna tell you right now these fine young people in the military are going to rebel

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They're not gonna they're not gonna go along with it

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So they're gonna have to bring in a lot of lots of United Nations forces to do it

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Well, you know I used to hear that 15 16 years ago and think people were crazy

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But they were all former military and they'd been in the briefings now

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It's in the news 15 foreign nations to be used against domestic terrorists and during crises. I mean they're admitting it

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Okay

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All right. So if you're saying that the United States military is going to rebel. Mm-hmm the largest military in the world

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larger than all the other ones combined

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They're gonna bring in some UN troops

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Yeah, and they think they're gonna that's gonna that's gonna do it if the US military rebels against anybody

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We're all dead

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Well, and like that come the countries that were listed in that DHS press release are Australia. They're not gonna be able to help much

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UK has a reasonably sizable army, but nothing compared to us

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No

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Mexico no, definitely not no

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Mexico even with their army can't get the the gangs and the cartels

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Yeah, if you're gonna bring in foreign troops, I would bring in the cartels. They know how to handle business

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Yeah, I mean if you're using black water you might as well fucking but like all those countries the ones that are actually

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Or the Navajo Nation. That's one you got to worry about. That's a huge army

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Frankly, they may not have the people but god damn it if they don't have the motivation, right?

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So, I mean like if anybody wants to occupy the United States, it's the Navajo Nation

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Your point is well taken though that like quite frankly nothing. Yeah

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There's there is nothing to fear unless the military does rebel right in which case we're all fucked

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Yeah, which is increasingly becoming a not likelihood, but a possibility, right?

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Well, I mean because of Trump imagine the United States rung by a military junta scary

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Like that is the most like military juntas are horrific in small countries where they can't do anything

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Oh, oh, I want to our military can nuke everybody

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You're right. And actually I wanted to get back to my idea about killing propagandists really quick. All right

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one of the reasons that I

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Feel confident about that in a utopia is when we look at things like what we talked about

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a

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Number of episodes back about Edward Bernays and his banana shit

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Yeah, leading to a 30-year civil war in Guatemala, right?

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there are so many deaths that are attributable to propaganda and

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It's not it's not a game like the things that Alex Jones says is not it's not a game

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He's making a ton of money on this shit

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but people do lose their lives people are terrorized like I read an article recently about a

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Couple that was at the Las Vegas

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country concert that was attacked and

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the guy got shot in the head running away from the the

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Conflagration as it were that's fucked and just because it was off by about an inch

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He ended up surviving and it wasn't that bad. I mean it was bad, but it wasn't that bad

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It wasn't relatively speaking that bad. And so he and his girlfriend had an interview and they were talking about how

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immediately

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He was inundated with tons and tons of messages about how someone needs to kill him

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Someone needs to shoot him in the head for real because he is a fucking crisis actor

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Yeah, and all this shit isn't real now. That's not Alex Jones's narrative this time, but it's something he's perpetuated

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It's something with the Sandy Hook stuff that he's perpetuated and fostered in people the idea of crisis actors

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Isn't it doesn't start with him but god damn it if he isn't one of the biggest people who's pushed that narrative

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He he has to share the blame in this. It's not it's not no stakes

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It's not a situation where you and I are sitting here and we're like, hey Alex Jones sucks, doesn't he?

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That's it's this is damage. He's doing damage

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Again, I'm not saying kill him or even put him in prison or even take him off the air

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But we need to take this more seriously, right?

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Those people are being terrorized the families of Sandy Hook victims have been terrorized that for years now at this point

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It's just a byproduct of this shit guy coming to Pizza Hut Pizza Hut coming ping-pong with a gun

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yeah, all that stuff is just

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very predictable outcomes and this stuff this stuff about MS or FM 3

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This stuff in concert with all of his lies about Elohim City in Oklahoma City bombing shit

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It combines to create a very dangerous

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Dangerous white militia

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Organization and again, he's not solely responsible for creating that but he's the most mainstream voice

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That is super in favor of it and popularizes it. Yeah, and clearly he's able to make effects in the world

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He's able to make changes in the world. It's fucking nonsense. I don't understand why we don't have millions of dollars quite frankly

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Um, that's what I'm getting to well because we are debunk propaganda, right?

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We don't dole it out

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Well and because there's no money on the progressive side of things exactly there is like the myths about Soros aren't real now

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Whereas the myths about the Koch brothers and the Mercers are very real

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Yeah, so that's really what's going on. If Soros was real like in the way that Alex presents him

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Yeah, we would have a lot of money. We wouldn't be in my fucking bedroom right now

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Anyway, uh, I don't know. I don't know. I

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Mean, we're not gonna we're not gonna defeat propaganda

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By killing people no, that's unfortunate again

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I was talking about a utopia that is hypothetical

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All right

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And and you made a good point that talked me off the ledge about the Dow and about how it wouldn't be necessary

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Or no one would gravitate towards propaganda if their needs were met right and I agree with it. Okay. So now let's go hog-wild

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How would you kill all of the propaganda?

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What are we talking about? Are we bringing back? Are we bringing back guillotine? Cuz that was fun

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I actually say what you want about the guillotine people came to watch I would say in my ideal scenario

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What it would be is a protracted trial

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Wherein everything that they say like it would be just every episode of our podcast is played

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And by the end they would have already killed themselves point by point this is what you said, right

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This is the reality of it and make them confess to everything and not through torture

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No or anything like that because that's not how that works

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No, it just be like what we really need to do is get them really drunk one night. Sure. Yeah

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but down in court demonstrate the

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The

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Untruthfulness of all their claims and then seppuku now

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Next thought seppuku after they're already an honorable death after they're already dead, right?

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Also, they don't deserve that honorable death man after they're already dead. Okay, I

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Proposed we Oliver Cromwell them

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Dig them back up put them back on trial. Okay, and then behead them interesting

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Um, that's my plan. I'm gonna get back to you on that. Okay, but let's get to these last two clips. This first one is

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Alex misleading people about Hillary Clinton early. Oh, this is 2012 misleading people about oh, that's nice. Yeah

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By the way, we have the Hillary fake, Kentucky voice. This is real

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For when she was running against Obama in 2008. Here it is. I don't feel no way. He's tired

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You think I'm joking and I've had I

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Heard Rick Perry speaking to Hispanic groups in California's run for president and I would be so insulted because he was going

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Speaking Spanish he was going

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I've got some family that does that will be the Mexican for restaurant

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I mean, it's so condescending. Is that what you were talking?

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It'd be like Gerald if I went to an Italian restaurant and said hello Luigi or like some kind of fake Italian accent

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Oh, mama me or be like if you went, you know into say some East Texas people's restaurant. We're like

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Steak I mean, it's so

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Condescending. I have another example

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How about you go on the BBC and do a British accent while you talk over the other guest on the show?

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That would be condescending. That would be a little condescending a little bit. That would be condescending on a large scale a little bit

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Yeah, so also clearly she's one

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One really bad at that accent. Yeah, that was maybe the worst Tennessee accent I've ever heard

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Yeah, it's not too she's clearly just trying to be like hey look at this kind of bit

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I'm doing it's you guys know that I'm cool with you and it's just like a little thing

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No

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What she's doing is she's reciting the lyrics of a song by James Cleveland four-time Grammy Award winner for gospel album of the year

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It's a song called. I have gone too far to come back or something like that

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I can't remember the exact name, but the lyrics of it are unfortunately written in that patois

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and

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Granted I agree with you. The accents not good. It's bad. But the

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she's forced into it a little bit by the

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At least man, even back then you can really see that her campaign handlers have no idea what they're doing

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Yeah, like hey, let's take the stiffest most

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Most knowledgeable person we can find. Yeah, and try and get them to do bits

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Yeah, and if I were to really make a complaint, I think I would more complain that

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It's a little racist. I I would go with that because she's she's at the very least pandering

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yeah, no because the the the the James Cleveland song is from like the like he was he was born in

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1930 like he

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These are these are old-time songs and so they're written kind of like

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How Jim's dialogue is written in Huck Finn, right?

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You know, there is a little bit of that in it or like how the national anthem supports slavery, right?

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right it it's it's it's anachronistic to a certain extent and

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I would I would think that Alex could have a much easier attack point there than to say that she's doing a hillbilly voice and

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That's somehow disgraceful, but he can't do that

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He's got to attack her on that because she's stepping in on his game of bad accents

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Well, we saw what he did at the Marriott exactly. Yeah, that's fair. Yeah, so at the end there

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He's sort of talking to somebody else and that is Gerald Cilenti. He has Gerald Cilenti on and he says a bunch of bullshit

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He ends the show by saying that the president should talk to him and I think there's no reason for that

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That would be fun. He screams about some guy

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But saying stuff about the army when he's never served. I don't know if Gerald Cilenti has ever served himself

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I have no idea, but he's the age where he would have been in Vietnam. I have no idea

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I don't want to cast aspersions because I don't know his history, right?

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I don't know you would think that he would bring it up while he's screaming at somebody about talking about the military

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but be that as it may he says this and it's about Germany and

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I think I think that based on the rants that I've gone on about propaganda on this episode

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This is a fitting way for us to end the episode

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And you know, these are the Germans. I mean they have you know, they have it down as far as engineering style culture

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You know, this isn't a third world banana republic and you see these beautiful buildings Alex from the late

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1800s early

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1900s and then you see in between them all new construction from post-world war two and this keeps

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Going on everywhere you go. These are all bombed out buildings

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So it's been haunting me since I've returned I said to myself

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These are the Germans. How can they have led know a two-bit little freak?

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like Hitler

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Destroy their entire country

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well

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Victimization narratives fast forward to 2016. Mm-hmm Trump president of the United States

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well, I mean one of the big reasons that people went along with

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Hitler was because of desperation right in the country because of things that actually the you know

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the global community was responsible for the Treaty of Versailles is

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Proof of exactly what it is that I'm saying right when people's needs are not meant they will absolutely

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Go for whatever dumb fuck is going to give them that outlet for their dumb

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Fuck ain't which anybody who expresses a way out of your victimization narratives when Alex Jones

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Exposes or exploits the

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Job loss in the Midwest and in the coal mining territories when he exploits the pain of people who have lost people

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to opiate addiction when he exploits

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The fear of immigrants and these sorts of things all he's doing is providing a convenient

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Scapegoat in the fake globalists that he talks about all the time

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Exactly the same way Hitler did with the Jew bankers and the Jews in general

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And so Gerald I would say look in the mirror

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that would be my recommendation and

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I mean propaganda has its its role to play in all of this. He brings up banana republics. We've talked about it

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Oh, yeah, a lot of that is due to propaganda

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and of course capitalism run amok, right, but

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Yeah, I mean that's just sad to me. I mean, yeah you you ultimately come down to propaganda is

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Especially when it's used as a tool for by the government. Mm-hmm. It is just one part of

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That that you know

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unrestrained capitalism klepto or kleptocracy really

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Yeah, wherein you can have these people who are like it's the Democrats while at the same time

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They're voting for candidates who support the very policies that are putting them where they are

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Right, like if you're gonna if if Alex is gonna bitch about the opioid crisis the very guy that you wanted to take things over

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Is doing nothing about it. He's talking and being public. He's talking

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He's these these people are are

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Right in why they're angry and they are tricked by the people. They should be angry at right

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That's what that's what propaganda is like North Korea

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Well, why are you guys fucking starving and yet at the same time you believe your leader is a god?

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Propaganda, exactly. Yep. It's it's you know

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It's not a sigh op so much as it is if you shout lies loud enough

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a lot of people are gonna believe you there's a thin line between marketing and

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Propaganda, but that line is very important right and that line is Matthew McConaughey

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Oh, well, hold on now. He does Lincoln ads or whatever. Oh, yeah, I guess he does. Yeah

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Where he dresses all real nice and then he jumps into a pool for some reason

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He does that makes me want to buy a car

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He does Lincoln ads and then he was also in that movie the Lincoln lawyer and he was also Abraham Lincoln what's going on?

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It's crazy. So anyway

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my my my

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Way, I want to put a button on all this as I'd like to thank Alan for sending us down this path in history

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absolutely, although it was not really all that much about

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about Osama bin Laden

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We got to experience some very important things in the mythology of Alex Jones every time travel episode we've ever done

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You're like, oh, okay. It's

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2000 he's gonna do y2k all over it. Nope

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It's camps at the airport. No

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Concentration camps at the Austin Airport. Yeah, except for the one where Reagan got but fucked that one is great

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Yeah, that was great. That was targeted. He wasn't necessarily but he was pegged. He was definitely pegged

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We all know you're back to you. Look Reagan

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Good on you. Yeah, you live your life. So I mean we've gone through a bunch of bullshit the currency being illegal

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narratives the idea that

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Madeleine Albright and Walter Cronkite

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Cronkite came out publicly and said that Osama bin Laden was killed before all that stuff is a load of shit all these things

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Are really easily demonstrably not true the chicken man narrative. He has is full of shit, but the chicken man himself

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Some people American hero. Some people say he was a good man gave out eggs American hero, perhaps

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You know, I think he's not as cool as the San Diego chicken. No, isn't that?

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Mike the headless chicken. Oh, that's true. Yeah, definitely not

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And also then we just have all this FEMA camp shit and it's interesting to see where it really came together for Alex

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Yeah, like to know and also I listen to the day after this

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He doesn't talk about it very much ever, you know, why because he has Charlie Daniels as a guest

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Wow. Yeah, and he one of his questions he asks is

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How did you come up with the devil?

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Oh Charlie Daniels is on to talk about how evil agenda 21 is, right?

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Cuz he had made a documentary about agenda 21

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But we got to get to the bottom of this devil went down to Georgia right and Charlie Daniels answer underwhelming

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He has no story about how he came up with it. Yeah, I started writing stuff down

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Wait, it was predictive programming to get the people from Georgia to be comfortable with the devil indeed

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It was so Alex you're full of shit, but it is interesting to take this time capsule and I appreciate that for what it is

Unknown Speaker (02:58:31.219)

Absolutely. Um, let me let me ask you a question. I got it. Have you ever been to a website?

Unknown Speaker (02:58:38.059)

No, okay. Well you can't that I ever have you should try going to knowledge fight calm. Oh my god here

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That's a great web. It's a great website. Have you ever been to Twitter? I have yes

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I'm passingly familiar with you're not on Twitter anymore. Not on Twitter. We are at knowledge underscore fight. Oh weed. That's true

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Yeah, it is. Yeah, we say we know it's mainly. Yeah, we're also on Facebook and and when we say we that's also me

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You should hire a social media manager the problem the thing about this podcast that is so great is that by design

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You have to do all the work and I if I start doing any work it demolishes the entire point of this bike

Unknown Speaker (02:59:17.379)

Well, but I like it that way too. I don't think I don't think less of you for not doing a work or anything like that

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Right, you know, I'm fine. I I started out with a healthy dose of insecurity about it and then

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You know, I'm cool good. That's how it works. Now. There's one guy. I know we're also on iTunes

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Oh, we are also on and if you'd like to support the show, please go to knowledge fight calm and click the support the show

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Button, absolutely. Like I said if we can get that number up 35% more of our goal

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We will do a full-length commentary

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I'll put out a Twitter poll of like three options of Alex's documentaries and I will I promise you this

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Spend as long as it takes going through and debunking every point in it and I will write jokes

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Mm-hmm, and we'll do a commentary track over it. That might end up being like five hours and now that we've got

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Webcams and the like we can actually although we can't get the rights to the well if it's on you

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No, I mean just do a riff track. Yeah, we'll have to do a riff track. Yeah, it'll be fine

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um, but yeah, if you guys want to support that that

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Create more work for me. Yeah

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But I do want to do it. So it would be it would be nice and also

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Jobs. Mm-hmm. We're creating jobs. We're not doing them. Yeah, I'm doing something but um, and

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You know

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When he was talking about a CA into CIA Dennis, dad, right being approached you think about teeth

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I think about I think about one guy. I know was approached. Uh-huh

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All right, interesting theory rebuffed those approaches, right? He's a stalwart then went to a

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Different CIA dentist. Oh, man, who put CIA psi op teeth in him

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psi op teeth and let me tell you something as as

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Tragic as that story is you really would think that CIA psi op teeth would sound better in a mouth

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You really think you know, what are you talking about? The budget is tight, Dan

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We can't be focusing on if I can appearances. No, I mean sound aesthetic disease. I'm talking about

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You don't want that marble gummy mouth

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My buddy Ryan Beck has a great joke that he doesn't do anymore which pisses me off because I think it's a great joke

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It's like okay. Why do old people always look like they're chewing something. It's a good joke

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Fuck yourself

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You're an asshole don't Stonewall

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Ryan Beck look

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Anyways, I'm saying go fuck yourself down right before it may the wolf choke on your flesh

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Andy in Kansas you're on the air. Thanks for holding

Unknown Speaker (03:01:50.819)

Oh Alex, I'm a first-time caller. I'm a huge fan. I love your work. I love you