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    | title         = [[249: Predicting 9/11]]
    | caption       = [https://knowledgefight.libsyn.com/knowledge-fight-predicting-911 Listen to this episode on Libsyn]
    | episodeNumber = [[249: Predicting 9/11|249]]
    | length        = 01:18:43
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    | text      = Andy in Kansas. You're on the air. Thanks for holding.
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    | text      = Hello Alex. I'm a first time caller. I'm a huge fan. I love your work.
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    | text      = I love you. Hey everybody. Welcome back to Knowledge Fight. I'm Dan. I'm Jordan.
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    | text      = We're a couple dudes. Like to sit around, drink novelty beverages,
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    | text      = and talk a little bit about Alex Jones. Indeed we are. Dan.
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    | text      = Hey. Dan. Yeah. Did you ever get kicked out of class?
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    | text      = Yeah. Oh, so many times. So many times? So many. I dropped out of high school.
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    | text      = I got kicked out. I know. Well, I know you dropped out of high school.
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    | text      = And not welcome back to classes just for skipping so much. Stuff like that. Yeah.
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    | text      = Dropping out of high school is like getting kicked out of one big class. It's not...
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    | text      = I don't know. I guess the one that I remember the most was there was a math class that I was in. I
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    | text      = think junior year of high school. That was the year that I skipped most of. And I had a teacher,
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    | text      = Mr. Sharp, who was a real... I mean, he's a math teacher in high school. So of course,
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    | text      = he's a bit of a dork. Right.
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    | text      = And he had little catch phrases that he would use about math that he was teaching.
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    | text      = Okay. He'd always talk about the reality piece of this.
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    | text      = Oh, boy. He'd always be like,
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    | text      = when we look at the hypotenuse, you got to understand the reality piece
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    | text      = is that the length is based on the other lengths.
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    | text      = I don't know what the reality piece in that is supposed to signify.
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    | text      = It was his way of saying like, this is what you need to focus on.
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    | text      = Right. Right, right, right. I got you.
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    | text      = And I think I had missed a bunch of days. He's like, you're not going to pass this class if
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    | text      = you don't come to class. I was like, well, the reality piece is that I don't really care.
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    | text      = Get out. Get out. So that was one of them.
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    | text      = That was worth it. You know what, for a line like that, that's worth it.
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    | text      = That's worth dropping out of high school.
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    | text      = Every bit of that, for that to be a real line that you said in the moment, worth it.
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    | text      = It felt pretty good. I think it presaged my getting into stand-up comedy a little bit.
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    | text      = Something along those lines.
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    | text      = Yeah. I don't know, man. My high school career was just chock full of me being overly gifted
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    | text      = in many ways. Like I could pass tests super easily, write essays on stuff I didn't really
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    | text      = know much about, but then like just be like just the worst student. Just not coming and just.
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    | text      = What would you skip out and do?
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    | text      = I mostly laid in bed. I was very depressed.
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    | text      = Oh, okay. Well, then that's fine.
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    | text      = Super depressed.
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    | text      = Oh, no, no, no. I skipped out. I thought you were skipping out.
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    | text      = I wasn't a bad ass or anything. I guess you could get that image based on the way I was
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    | text      = telling that story.
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    | text      = Yeah, it sounds like that. And it's like, I skip class all the time. I'm so fucking cool.
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    | text      = There's mostly mental wellness, but it has the appearance of being cool or something.
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    | text      = See, that was my trick, man. I would go to school and I would just sleep in class.
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    | text      = There you go. That's smart.
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    | text      = That was the trick.
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    | text      = Dropped out of high school, did go to college. Everything's cool.
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    | text      = I stayed in high school, went to college, never graduated.
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    | text      = Hey, look at us. So who's the winner here?
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    | text      = I don't know. Neither.
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    | text      = Both?
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    | text      = Anyway, despite our educational backgrounds being very different,
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    | text      = there's a podcast where I know a lot about Alex Jones.
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    | text      = And I only know what you tell me about Alex Jones.
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    | text      = That is correct. And today we have an interesting episode to go over,
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    | text      = something a little bit different that I got inspired to do.
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    | text      = We'll get into why exactly as we go along. But first, something else that inspires me.
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    | text      = You're not far off.
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    | text      = It's pretty close.
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    | text      = Okay. But the thing else that inspires me is our listeners and our donors.
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    | text      = And I'd like to give a shout out to a couple of new people who have signed up to support the show.
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    | text      = First of all, Rosie, thank you so much. You are now a policy wonk.
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    | text      = I'm a policy wonk.
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    | text      = Thank you, Rosie.
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    | text      = Thank you very much for taking time out of your very, very busy riveting schedule.
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    | text      = You mean the schedule is riveting.
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    | text      = It is exciting.
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    | text      = Impossible to tear your attention away.
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    | text      = Indeed. Next, Alexander, thank you so much. You are now a policy wonk.
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    | text      = I'm a policy wonk.
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    | text      = Thank you, Alexander.
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    | text      = Next, Mark. Thank you. You are now a policy wonk.
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    | text      = I'm a policy wonk.
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    | text      = Thank you, Mark.
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    | text      = Thanks, Mark.
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    | text      = John B. You're going to make a sloop John B joke?
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    | text      = Nope.
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    | text      = You're about to, aren't you?
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    | text      = I was not.
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    | text      = You're close.
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    | text      = I genuinely was not.
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    | text      = John B. Thank you so much. You are now a policy wonk.
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    | text      = I'm a policy wonk.
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    | text      = Thank you very much, John B. Sloop. Sloop.
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    | text      = Colin, thank you so much. You are now a policy wonk.
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    | text      = I'm a policy wonk.
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    | text      = And finally today, Jordan, we have to make right something that once went wrong.
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    | text      = We have to right a wrong?
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    | text      = We do. Yes. The way that I get these emails, sometimes things are like end up in the wrong
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    | text      = folder. Like sometimes the people, the emails that people have donated to the show, it ends
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    | text      = up in my like promotions tab in my Gmail. And so sometimes things, but then also another
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    | text      = thing that happens is that if someone has an account that maybe someone else's name
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    | text      = is on, that other person will get the shout out.
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    | text      = Ooh.
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    | text      = And we made a mistake in the past.
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    | text      = Oh shit.
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    | text      = Uh, and we need to correct that wrong. So Emma, thank you. You're a policy wonk, but
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    | text      = in honor of our mistake, we are going to make you an honorary technocrat.
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    | text      = I'm a policy wonk.
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    | text      = Four stars. Go home to your mother and tell her you're brilliant.
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    | text      = Someone, someone sodomite sent me a bucket of poop.
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    | text      = Daddy shark.
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    | text      = Jar Jar Binks has a Caribbean black accent.
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    | text      = He's a loser. Little, little kitty baby. I don't want to hate black people. I renounce
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    | text      = Jesus Christ.
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    | text      = Thank you so much, Emma.
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    | text      = Thank you very much.
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    | text      = Sorry. Mia Colpa.
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    | text      = What? I don't understand. I don't remember.
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    | text      = I believe it's wrong. Emma.
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    | text      = No, her husband's name was on the account. As I understand it.
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    | text      = What is this? The 18th century where the man is the one who controls the patriarchal bullshit.
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    | text      = Yeah, but we're trying our best to make things right.
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    | text      = Absolutely.
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    | text      = Anyway, if you'd like to support the show and what we do, you can go to our website,
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    | text      = knowledgefight.com. Click that button to support the show. We would appreciate it.
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    | text      = Make sure you get your husband's permission first.
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    | text      = Hey, hey now. So, Jordan, today, the reason I went down a little bit of a different road
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    | text      = here with this is that on our last episode, Alex was really going hard about this idea
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    | text      = of these hacked documents that prove 9-11. We discussed how it's clearly a cyber extortion
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    | text      = racket and that Alex is way off base on this. It's definitely not something he should be
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    | text      = supporting even if he supports the hypothetical content of those emails and insurance documents
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    | text      = and stuff like that. So I started to think about 9-11 and Alex Jones' ownership of the space
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    | text      = because that was another thing on that last episode, a lot of the ideas of him trying
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    | text      = to reclaim QAnon. And so I was ruminating on that and I realized that we've talked about how he
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    | text      = produced loose change, final cut, and what have you. And he's been on the forefront of 9-11
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    | text      = conspiracy theory since the event, quite frankly, but day one. And so what I wanted to do is I
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    | text      = wanted to talk about how he claims that he predicted 9-11. And I want to go into that
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    | text      = a little bit and try and assess exactly if we want to give him credit for that.
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    | text      = It's sort of up in the air a little bit. Oh, oh, do you mean are we going to give him credit
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    | text      = for having actually applied analysis that functioned the way it was supposed to? I'm not
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    | text      = sure even if that's how I would phrase it. I'm going to say that we've just taken as read the
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    | text      = idea that he predicted 9-11 because he says he did. Right. So today we're going to start on July
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    | text      = 25th, 2001, when Alex got on air and did what he says is him predicting 9-11. Oh, that was the date
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    | text      = that he said that he's predicted. Okay. July 25th, 2001, here is from Alex Jones's mouth.
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    | text      = Hello, ladies and gentlemen, I'm so glad that you could join us today for this Wednesday, July 25th,
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    | text      = 2001 broadcast. Tyranny is enveloping the globe and the United States is a shining jewel the
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    | text      = globalists want to bring down and they will use terrorism as the pretext to get it done. So that's
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    | text      = coming up in the second half of the show. Very important information. I'm going to put the call
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    | text      = out that you call the White House and tell them, look, we've seen the news stories that you've
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    | text      = wanted to blow things up, that you have blown things up and that you're saying that 4 million
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    | text      = of us are going to die and we need martial law and the Associated Press and one of your little
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    | text      = drills you had and that we're aware of who the terrorists are if you pull this. This can stop
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    | text      = this Hitlerian Reichstag event. I want to put the toll-free number up for Congress and I won't want
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    | text      = you to believe Alex Jones. I want you to go get these news stories off my website. I want you to
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    | text      = call these major newspapers. I want you to find out these statements were true by the White House
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    | text      = about preparing for martial law and I want you to let them know that if there is any terrorism,
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    | text      = we know who to blame. The point is, if any terrorism comes, it's from this government
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    | text      = and if there was an outside threat like a bin Laden who was a known CIA asset in the 80s
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    | text      = running the Mujahideen war and whose family builds all the military bases over in Saudi Arabia right
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    | text      = now and sits on the board of Iridium satellite, he's the boogeyman they need in this Orwellian
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    | text      = phony system. I want the White House numbers up there now. A big part of this solution after you
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    | text      = research all the government terrorism and check out what I'm saying is true, call the White House
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    | text      = and tell them we know the government's planning terrorism. We know Oklahoma City and World Trade
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    | text      = Center was terrorism. We know the Joint Chiefs of Staff wanted to blow up airliners, Baltimore Sun.
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    | text      = If you do it, we're going to blame you because we know who's up to it or if you let some terrorist
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    | text      = group do it like the World Trade Center, we know who to blame and you could save the planet.
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    | text      = So that's most of the substance of him predicting 9-11 on June 25th, I'm sorry, July 25th, 2001.
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    | text      = So we have some pieces in there. He does bring up Osama bin Laden.
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    | text      = Indeed.
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    | text      = He does bring up the World Trade Center.
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    | text      = Of course.
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    | text      = But you can tell clearly from context that he's talking about the 93 attack.
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    | text      = Yeah.
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    | text      = He's talking about that as an example of something that he thinks is fake. And also you can tell,
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    | text      = like when he's talking about blowing up airplanes, he's not talking about that in a predictive
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    | text      = capacity. He's talking about a past event.
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    | text      = Yeah. He's talking about the Joint Chiefs of Staff wanting to blow up airplanes, not
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    | text      = a future, the Joint Chiefs of Staff. They're still, they still, well, in his defense,
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    | text      = they may never have stopped wanting to blow up.
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    | text      = Right. Right.
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    | text      = So there is that.
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    | text      = Right.
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    | text      = He doesn't say there was an end date on when they wanted to blow up.
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    | text      = I'm not, I'm not going to take too much away from him because there are a lot of specifics
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    | text      = in there, certainly.
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    | text      = Surprisingly.
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    | text      = There's, well, I mean, it's not specifics in terms of him saying this is going to happen.
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    | text      = This is gonna, who's gonna do it. This is where it's gonna be or anything like that.
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    | text      = But it's more, it's more substance than you generally would expect from Alex Jones.
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    | text      = You're missing it. You didn't get it. It's numerology. Every word that he used either
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    | text      = has nine letters or 11 letters.
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    | text      = That's interesting.
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    | text      = It's all in there.
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    | text      = It's supreme mathematics.
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    | text      = Yeah. It's incredible.
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    | text      = It is interesting that that is not the case. But it's, it is interesting to me that there's,
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    | text      = you know, it sounds a lot just like any Alex show, quite frankly.
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    | text      = Yeah.
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    | text      = And it just so happens to have been a bit before 9-11. That's kind of the feel I get
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    | text      = in terms of like screaming about how the government's preparing to stage terror attacks
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    | text      = and stuff like that. It's like, you could choose almost any day of the week. Alex is
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    | text      = going to have said something similar to that.
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    | text      = If he, if he, no, but here's the thing. If he had done this exact same episode in 2003,
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    | name      = Unknown Speaker
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    | text      = it still would have made the exact same amount of sense.
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    | text      = He did do this episode in 2003. I'm certain that he did.
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    | text      = That's right. Yeah. Cause of course he's going to say that Osama is going to attack again.
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    | text      = He doesn't even crystal clearly say that.
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    | text      = He doesn't.
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    | text      = He's saying that Osama bin Laden is a boogeyman of some, of some sort.
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    | text      = Which is only stronger after he commits the second attack on the world trade.
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    | text      = Second.
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    | text      = Yes.
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    | text      = That is also important to consider.
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    | text      = Yeah.
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    | text      = So he also is comparing the idea of some terrorist attack that's to come as a Hitlerian Reichtag
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    | text      = fire, which is an important thing to keep in mind as we go along. So here, here's the
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    | name      = Unknown Speaker
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    | text      = interesting thing. There's another guy in the conspiracy world, a gentleman by the name
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    | text      = of Bill Cooper. I don't know if you've ever heard of Bill Cooper.
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    | name      = Unknown Speaker
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    | text      = I do not know anything about Bill Cooper.
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    | text      = Well, let me tell you a little bit.
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    | name      = Unknown Speaker
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    | text      = I know a little bit about Derek Bill Cooper.
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    | text      = Who's that?
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    | name      = Unknown Speaker
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    | text      = DB Cooper.
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    | name      = Unknown Speaker
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    | text      = Oh, William Cooper, Bill Cooper. Also first name Milton, but it goes by Bill William.
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    | text      = He was a good change.
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    | text      = Good change.
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    | text      = Certainly.
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    | name      = Unknown Speaker
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    | text      = He was a pioneer of the paranoid militia broadcasting world and is absolutely an early
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    | text      = hero of Alex Jones's. There's literally no way around that from January, 1993 to the
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    | text      = time of his death in November, 2001, Bill Cooper distributed his own radio show hour
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    | timestamp = 00:12:48.559
    | text      = of the time as a daily show, then later on a weekly basis. He covered it all. He dabbled
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    | text      = in UFOs and mystery religions, but more importantly to the world we look at, he was also deeply
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    | text      = interested in the idea of a one world government being formed. He was a staunch defender of
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    | text      = Randy Weaver, the central figure at Ruby Ridge, and did frequent episodes about how Oklahoma
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    | text      = City and Waco didn't go down the way the government said they did. He covered the
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    | text      = difference between gold and silver as hard money versus the idea of soft currency and
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    | text      = paper money. On a March 11th, 1993 show, he did an episode about the intentional devaluation
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    | timestamp = 00:13:24.240
    | text      = of the dollar. He covered the Federal Reserve and how income taxes aren't real. He railed
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    | text      = on socialists and spread suspicion about the Council on Foreign Relations and Trilateral
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    | text      = Commission as far back as 1993 when Alex was 19 years old and still years away from ever
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    | text      = being on the radio. On a February 18th, 1994 episode, Bill Cooper interviewed Sheriff Richard
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    | text      = Mack, a central figure of the constitutional sheriff movement and someone who would go
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    | text      = on to be a frequent guest on Alex's show in the future. There are a lot of overlaps between
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    | text      = guests too, including Aaron Zelman, the president of Jews for the Preservation of Firearms,
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    | text      = someone who was an early sponsor of Alex Jones' show.
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    | timestamp = 00:14:03.360
    | text      = Right. That's a mouthful. They should shorten that.
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    | text      = I mean, it really gets to the point. I mean, they're Jewish and they want to preserve the
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    | text      = right to have guns. Right. How about Jews keep guns? It's like
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    | text      = cars for kids. I don't know.
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    | name      = Unknown Speaker
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    | text      = It's got a better ring to it. It might be too tight.
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    | text      = So all this is to say that if you look spiritually at the stuff that Bill was putting out into
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    | text      = the world, there's no way to think that Alex wasn't a big fan of his and probably was deeply
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    | text      = inspired by him. Was he a nationally syndicated guy or was
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    | text      = he around the southern market? He was a guy who had like a shortwave show,
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    | text      = but it was it would go around, you know, it made the rounds. It was big. It wasn't just
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    | text      = some sort of local thing. That's just what I wanted to be.
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    | text      = No, no, no, no. He was a very big deal. And he wrote a book called Behold a Pale Horse
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    | text      = that I don't know if this is true, but he he says it, that it's the number one most
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    | text      = underground distributed book in the world in all of history because he has no marketing
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    | text      = numbers on. There's no marketing, nothing really behind him or anything.
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    | name      = Unknown Speaker
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    | text      = It's a it's a very, very popular book in these worlds.
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    | timestamp = 00:15:10.000
    | text      = OK, so who's who's doing that census? Who's doing it? What is it? The New York Times
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    | name      = Unknown Speaker
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    | text      = number one ranked unregistered bestseller? Sure. They don't do one of those. Sure.
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    | text      = Why not? What is it? A fucking e-book sales? No, it's the 90s.
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    | name      = Unknown Speaker
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    | text      = I don't know. I don't know how you quantify it, but it is a very huge book. And here's
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    | text      = the part where I should probably just come clean on a little bit of something.
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    | text      = And that is, I don't know a ton about Bill Cooper. Does anybody?
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    | text      = Yeah, I am going to learn a lot more of him in the future. But as at press time, I don't
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    | text      = fucking know a whole lot about him. I know some of his beliefs. I know a lot of it matches
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    | text      = up with Alex. And then there's a lot of stuff that Alex poo poos and tries to be like, no,
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    | text      = absolutely not like the UFO stuff. Yeah. Alex isn't into that. But even though secretly
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    | text      = he's super into that. But Bill was into that. Now, granted, it seems over the course of
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    | text      = his career that he pivoted more towards the militia and Patriot type stuff as time went
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    | text      = on at the expense of his interest in UFOs. All right. Question. Quick question.
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    | text      = But also, Alex is a huge fan of like Coast to Coast and George Norie and stuff like that.
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    | text      = And they talk about ghosts and aliens all day long. Of course. So it can't be a turn
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    | text      = off for him. Anyway, that's my point is like, I'm sure I'm positive Alex loved his show.
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    | text      = When did Alex. So this dude died in 2001. November 2001. He got killed by. He died in
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    | timestamp = 00:16:33.679
    | text      = November 2001 and he was killed by the police. Well, to be fair, he shot to a cop in the
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    | text      = head twice and then got killed by the police because he'd been living on the land because
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    | name      = Unknown Speaker
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    | text      = he refused to pay his taxes and was charged with bank fraud. And the police were like,
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    | text      = we're not going to fucking fulfill that warrant because we're afraid of an armed standoff.
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    | text      = Right. So the police, they decided to try and lure him out of his house with a loud
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    | text      = car. No, a loud car that he would come and like tell people to be quiet. Right. That
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    | text      = sort of thing. Because they wanted to lure him away from his house because they knew
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    | text      = he had weapons caches there. So they did that. Was Wile E. Coyote running the SWAT team at
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    | text      = the time? They only did this because he had, they'd gotten reports that he'd been threatening
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    | text      = local residents with weapons. Yeah. Just his being around as a threat.
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    | text      = They'd gotten some complaints like, well, we got to finally go through with this warrant.
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    | text      = So they do this. He shows up at the car. They announced themselves as police officers and
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    | text      = he starts shooting at them. And so they end up killing him. Which is not the best way
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    | text      = for things to go down, but he had made it very clear that he didn't believe that he
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    | text      = needed to be arrested for the tax evasion and bank fraud. Of course not. Capital letters.
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    | text      = And that he was totally right in all that. Of course he is. He has a gun.
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    | text      = And he had said that he's not going to be taken alive. So he had already made it clear.
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    | text      = And in an email to a friend not too long before it all went down, he had said, I'm going to
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    | text      = take as many down with me as I can. So they had every reason to suspect this is probably
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    | text      = what's going to happen. And the idea of letting him get to his house or something like that
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    | text      = is a real no-no for the police. So I'm not, I never like it when the police kill anybody.
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    | text      = Right. I kind of get it. If you shoot a cop twice in the head,
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    | text      = you're who survived as I understand. Oh, that's nice. Thank you.
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    | text      = But still, if you shoot. That makes the story way better for me.
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    | text      = Yeah. Yeah. It's so anyway, that happened in November, 2001.
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    | text      = Right. Right. See the way that you described his radio career, it seemed more like he had
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    | text      = died of natural causes because he was a precursor to Alex Jones. But apparently he was just like
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    | text      = a sovereign citizen, like a regular sovereign. Did he still work on the radio?
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    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 00:18:43.839
    | text      = Well, there's no way you can keep your job with a warrant on you for tax evasion.
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    | text      = He can if you're doing like shortwave himself. And live on the lamb.
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    | text      = Well, he wasn't living on the lamb so much as he was in an uneasy truce with the police.
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    | text      = Right. In terms of like, they think this is going to be too much trouble to execute the
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    | text      = warrant and it's just a financial crime. Yeah.
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    | text      = So until he's a danger to people around there, then it almost doesn't make sense.
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    | text      = So, okay. Now, alternate theory. Okay.
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    | text      = All right. He too predicted the 9-11 attacks. He did.
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    | text      = But he got it right on. He said almost the same thing as Alex.
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    | text      = So the government realized that in order to prop Alex up, who was an operative of the CIA
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    | text      = and still is, and has always been under government control, has controlled opposition. That's why
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    | text      = he's too nice to Israel, according to Stormfront. The reason that they left Alex alive was to take
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    | text      = over for Bill Cooper's spot. And they killed Bill Cooper two months after 9-11, Dan.
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    | text      = I understand where you're going with this, but that's just dumb.
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    | text      = The timeline matches up. The timeline matches up.
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    | text      = I think the reality is both of them could have continued to exist,
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    | text      = doing whatever the fuck they're doing. Did Alex kill Bill Cooper?
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    | text      = No, but some people have suggested that sort of thing, which is just that sort of unhinged,
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    | text      = untethered criticism of Alex that I resent so much.
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    | text      = Right, right, right. There are people who are like, yeah, he's part
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    | text      = of the system and he had them take out Bill Cooper so he could rise.
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    | text      = More or less what you're saying. I was being extremely facetious.
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    | text      = I should have assumed that that conspiracy theory was alive and well.
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    | text      = There are some people who put that forth, which is really dumb.
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    | text      = So the reason that I'm bringing Bill Cooper into this, and admittedly, like I said,
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    | text      = I don't know a ton about him. I'm excited to learn more about him as we go along because,
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    | text      = spoiler alert, the entire archive of his radio show is available online.
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    | text      = I was just about to ask. So he might become another wacky
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    | text      = Wednesday character. I was just about to ask,
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    | text      = and now I'm very excited for Bill Cooper. And because all of his shows are online,
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    | text      = we can know that on June 28th, 2001, a month before Alex predicted 9-11 on his show,
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    | text      = Bill Cooper went on his show, Hour of the Time. The whole thing is a fraud!
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    | text      = After the anniversary... Also, I don't know how you have the
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    | text      = rights to play Kiss from a Rose, but I'm going to leave that aside for a second.
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    | text      = In a short way....of the Oklahoma City bombing,
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    | text      = we were bombarded with anti-patriot, anti-Malaysia, anti-constitutionalist,
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    | text      = that's people who believe in the Constitution for the United States of America,
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    | text      = anti-American propaganda. And then when the execution of Timothy McVeigh occurred,
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{{TranscriptBlock
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    | text      = once again, prior to, and immediately following, the same thing occurred again,
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    | text      = and this word extremist was used over and over and over and over and over and over and over
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    | text      = and over and over again. How many times?
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    | text      = And now we're being bombarded with messages that
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    | text      = Osama bin Laden is planning to attack the United States of America and Israel.
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    | text      = And I'm telling you, be prepared for a major attack.
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    | text      = But it won't be Osama bin Laden.
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    | text      = It will be those behind the New World Order, who once again
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    | text      = want to take the guns and the freedom away from the American people because
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    | text      = we're the only ones left in the world who can oppose the destruction of freedom in the world
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    | text      = and the implementation of a one-world totalitarian socialist government,
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    | text      = and that is the goal.
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    | text      = So you have basically here him predicting much more specifically.
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    | text      = And way better, yeah.
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    | text      = More specifically, and also preemptively laying out the
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    | text      = inside job false flag narrative already a month before Alex's supposed prediction.
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    | text      = New theory.
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    | text      = Alex got his hands on the Sumerian ritual to steal a man's brain.
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    | text      = Interesting.
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    | text      = Immediately after this episode, he led Bill Cooper out into the forest,
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    | text      = said the ancient rites, looked directly into his eyes and sucked out of his soul, right?
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    | text      = And that's why after 9-11, he lost his mind.
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    | text      = And the whole thing makes perfect sense.
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    | text      = Spoiler alert.
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    | text      = After 9-11, Bill Cooper didn't lose his mind necessarily.
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    | text      = He lost a lot.
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    | text      = His actions in terms of that standoff with the police.
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    | text      = Totally consistent.
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    | text      = Very much so.
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    | text      = He's had several standouts.
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    | text      = It's right in character.
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    | text      = You don't want to say that a man is comfortable with a Mexican standoff by experience,
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    | text      = but he sounds like he would be.
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    | text      = Yeah.
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{{TranscriptBlock
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    | text      = So a little bit later in that same June 28th, 2001 episode,
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    | text      = you'll hear Bill lay out almost entirely what Alex's 9-11 narrative will end up being.
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    | text      = And you'll hear a little bit of a similar theme
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    | text      = to Alex's month later prediction that he makes about 9-11.
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    | text      = Hitler could not have ever come to power, absolute power in Germany, without the Reichstag fire.
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    | text      = Hitler was a socialist.
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    | text      = He understood social illusion.
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    | text      = He understood social engineering.
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    | text      = He knew how to get the support of the German people,
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    | text      = and he did it by burning down the Reichstag.
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{{TranscriptBlock
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    | text      = The Reichstag was, well, in our country,
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    | text      = it would be the Capitol building that contains the Senate and the House of Representatives.
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    | text      = So, if somebody were to go and burn down the Capitol building today,
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{{TranscriptBlock
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    | text      = they would use that as an excuse, as Hitler did,
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    | text      = to round up all of the enemies of the New World Order,
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{{TranscriptBlock
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    | text      = which would be me and most of you listening,
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    | text      = throw us into prison or execute us,
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    | text      = declare martial law, and come to absolute and total power in this country.
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    | text      = I wonder what Osama bin Laden's targets are supposed to be.
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    | text      = And if they don't, you know, if this doesn't materialize in the next two or three weeks,
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    | text      = it will eventually materialize,
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    | text      = because they haven't succeeded in getting the guns out of the hands of the American people,
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    | text      = nor have they succeeded in taking our freedoms away.
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    | text      = In fact, there's been a great awakening in this country,
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{{TranscriptBlock
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    | text      = and a big backlash against these Marxist, communist,
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
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    | text      = puke-faced, lying, subversive, Nazi, jackbooted, Gestapo fugs
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{{TranscriptBlock
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    | text      = that is gaining momentum.
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    | text      = Where's Lionel at?
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    | text      = Did somebody steal his thesaurus, too?
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{{TranscriptBlock
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    | text      = Might have.
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    | text      = But you can see a little bit of Alex even there,
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    | text      = like you can see a little bit of, like, minus a bit of the bombast.
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    | text      = Sure, or explosive showmanship, or whatever you want to call it.
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    | text      = You can see the, like, calling these people, uh, jackbooted, bombast fugs.
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    | text      = You know, there's a little bit of that.
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    | text      = And then the theme of, uh, they're doing these terrorist attacks in order to,
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{{TranscriptBlock
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    | text      = uh, you know, bring in, taking our guns away.
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{{TranscriptBlock
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    | text      = That sort of thing is just so central.
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    | text      = And even the idea that, like, this anti-New World Order movement is gaining traction,
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    | text      = and that's why they're gonna have to do this
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    | text      = in order to cut it off at the pass.
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    | text      = Right.
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    | text      = Or whatever.
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{{TranscriptBlock
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    | text      = That's so central to Alex's, uh, version of things
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    | text      = that it's almost impossible to imagine that he didn't listen to this episode
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{{TranscriptBlock
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    | timestamp = 00:26:33.680
    | text      = and then a month later crib it a little bit.
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    | text      = Yeah, yeah, I appreciate it.
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    | text      = That is kind of my big theory in terms of, uh, these, these two instances from 2001
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    | text      = Right.
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    | text      = of very paranoid men, uh, quote-unquote, predicting 9-11.
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    | timestamp = 00:26:47.519
    | text      = Okay, so two things.
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    | text      = One, I don't like that you've turned everything that I believed Alex Jones to be into a lie
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{{TranscriptBlock
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    | text      = because even his fucking origin stories are stolen now.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 00:26:58.240
    | text      = Totally.
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{{TranscriptBlock
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    | text      = Every one of them.
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    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 00:26:59.440
    | text      = Oh, yeah.
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    | text      = He's dead to me.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 00:27:01.039
    | text      = Every, every little feather in his cap is pretty much.
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    | timestamp = 00:27:04.079
    | text      = Yeah.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 00:27:04.400
    | text      = Yeah, there's, there's, uh, there's some lie behind everything.
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    | text      = You fucking find it.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 00:27:09.039
    | text      = You fucking find it.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 00:27:10.079
    | text      = You have totally and completely dismantled this man's mythology.
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{{TranscriptBlock
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    | text      = Somewhat.
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    | text      = And I'd also like to give a shout out to a listener and a buddy prop do who, uh, it was
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 00:27:20.079
    | text      = very helpful in, uh, you know, getting into a little bit of this stuff and it would be,
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 00:27:23.680
    | text      = it would not be right of me to talk about a lot of this without giving a shout out.
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    | text      = Fuck yeah.
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    | text      = Good work, man.
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    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 00:27:28.880
    | text      = Yeah.
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{{TranscriptBlock
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    | text      = Uh, the other things, uh, one, I don't like that he had trouble reading constitutionalist.
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    | text      = That doesn't seem like a difficult word to read.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 00:27:37.440
    | text      = I think he was, I think that was for dramatic effect.
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    | timestamp = 00:27:39.599
    | text      = I don't think so.
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    | text      = I think that was struggling to read.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 00:27:41.519
    | text      = Uh, all right.
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{{TranscriptBlock
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    | text      = Agree to disagree.
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{{TranscriptBlock
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    | text      = And two, he sounds super good at his job.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
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    | text      = He is reasonable as fuck.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
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    | text      = I was listening to him and I was like, all right.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
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    | text      = There's a, I think, I think if we listened to a lot more episodes, you'd have less of
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{{TranscriptBlock
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    | text      = that.
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{{TranscriptBlock
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    | timestamp = 00:27:56.480
    | text      = So now I want to find out if he's right about everything.
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{{TranscriptBlock
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    | text      = He's not, he is.
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{{TranscriptBlock
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    | text      = He's secretly right about everything.
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    | name      = Unknown Speaker
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    | text      = I can say no, uh, he's not, but there is an interesting trend that goes through a lot
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    | text      = of episodes of his show where callers call in and ask him about something and he'll push
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    | text      = back on them in sort of the reverse way that Alex does, which ends up being one of his
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    | text      = chief complaints about Alex Jones later on, which is the idea that Alex just listens to
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    | text      = rumor and reports it as truth.
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    | text      = So he ends like on his show where someone calls in, let's say someone calls in and says
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    | text      = that Tennessee Department of Transportation is out on the streets or something like that.
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    | text      = He's not going to believe them.
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    | text      = Whereas Alex will then turn that into one of his stories.
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    | text      = So I don't believe that Bill Cooper knows a lot or is right about things.
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    | text      = What if he is?
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    | text      = No.
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    | text      = Okay, fine.
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    | text      = But he does have more of a measured approach to broadcasting at least.
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    | text      = Right.
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    | text      = Which is why he was never going to become as successful as Alex.
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    | text      = Probably not.
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    | text      = And he was an older man already.
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    | text      = You know, there's, there's other reasons why Alex would be.
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    | text      = The fact that he hadn't paid his taxes for a bunch of years.
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    | text      = That does hurt your abilities to syndicate probably.
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    | text      = I would assume there's active warrants out from your arrest.
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    | text      = You probably can't go down to KJFK or KLBJ and start broadcasting.
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    | text      = I'm telling you, give me a job on your...
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    | text      = Dude, we're going to have to, we're going to have to garnish your wages before you start.
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    | text      = And also turn you over to the cops.
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    | text      = We shouldn't be having this interview right now.
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    | text      = He would have been, I could sell gold.
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    | text      = He would have been a perfect other than Alex person for Ted Anderson to get.
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    | text      = But I think based on the sort of just the reality of who he is and how like, well, you're
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    | text      = wanted.
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    | text      = I don't think you can, I don't think you could do that if you're Ted.
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    | text      = Now I'm mad because he's like an even more under, he's the number one, most best-selling
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    | text      = underground author.
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{{TranscriptBlock
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    | text      = He's even more bad-ass than Alex is.
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    | text      = So there's a little bit of a beef between Alex Jones and Bill Cooper.
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    | text      = It exists within the Patriot militia worlds and all of their listeners know that.
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    | text      = So this is really...
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    | text      = Okay, all right, all right.
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    | text      = This is Drake, this is Drake Kanye.
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    | text      = And this is more what I want to talk about because as I've said repeatedly, I don't have
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    | text      = a good grasp on Bill Cooper, but I do have a grasp on Alex Jones.
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    | text      = And it's interesting to see this figure come into his world in such a demonstrable, Alex
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    | text      = is wrong kind of way.
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    | text      = In the same way, in the sense that like the first part is it looks pretty clear that Alex
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    | text      = number one has to be a huge fan of his rate of the hour of the time.
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    | text      = Yeah.
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    | text      = Second, he almost certainly stole that 9-11 prediction.
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    | text      = Right.
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    | text      = Now at some point along the line, this has to be after Bill Cooper was dead, but I'm
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    | text      = not sure exactly the year.
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    | text      = Alex gets a call about Bill asking about, what do you think about Bill Cooper?
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    | text      = Let me ask you one thing.
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{{TranscriptBlock
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    | text      = What did you think of Bill Cooper?
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{{TranscriptBlock
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    | text      = Well, Bill Cooper was an alcoholic and I didn't ever try to attack him.
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{{TranscriptBlock
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    | text      = He got mad because the network put me on at night and he thought, and I really, really
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    | text      = never heard his show because I didn't listen to a lot of Freud, I was busy, but I've seen
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    | text      = his book.
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{{TranscriptBlock
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    | text      = It was all about flying saucers, so I didn't finish it.
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{{TranscriptBlock
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    | text      = Somebody had given it to me on Access TV like in 96.
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{{TranscriptBlock
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    | text      = And then he really started attacking me in 98 because he was an egomaniac.
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    | text      = And you know, talking about flying saucers in the ocean and aliens and all this stuff,
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{{TranscriptBlock
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    | text      = and I've tried to never attack him, but people resurrected old tapes he edited of me and
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    | text      = stuff.
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    | text      = Okay, all right, now I'm interested.
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{{TranscriptBlock
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    | text      = Well, the alien stuff is fair criticism or whatever.
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    | text      = I mean, I haven't read all of his book to know too much, but from what I understand,
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    | text      = he believes that Eisenhower met with aliens and agreed to let them kidnap people and stuff
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{{TranscriptBlock
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    | text      = like that.
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{{TranscriptBlock
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    | text      = Yeah, that was in a Futurama episode and that sounds right.
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{{TranscriptBlock
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    | text      = So he's in that sort of camp.
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{{TranscriptBlock
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    | text      = And so Alex is not too far off in terms of being like, guy was a little bit nuts.
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    | text      = Yeah, that might be fair.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
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    | text      = We haven't listened to a lot of him.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
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    | text      = He has sounded correct on everything so far.
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{{TranscriptBlock
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    | text      = The editing clips together thing is in reference to Bill Cooper after the Y2K episode of Alex
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{{TranscriptBlock
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    | timestamp = 00:32:07.680
    | text      = Jones's show cut together some instances of Alex being very out of line on Y2K, which
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{{TranscriptBlock
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    | text      = we covered on, I think, our second episode, Alex's behavior on Y2K.
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    | text      = And Alex takes great issue with the fact that Bill Cooper did episodes of his own show,
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{{TranscriptBlock
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    | text      = Hour of the Time, about how fucked up Alex's behavior on Y2K was.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
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    | text      = Holy shit.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
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    | text      = Yeah.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 00:32:32.000
    | text      = Wait, so hold on.
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{{TranscriptBlock
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    | text      = So somehow Will Cooper is both the underlying inspiration for Alex Jones, his progenitor,
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 00:32:41.279
    | text      = if you will, and yet at the same time ours too?
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 00:32:45.680
    | text      = Yeah, it is weird that way, isn't it?
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{{TranscriptBlock
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    | text      = That is bananas.
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{{TranscriptBlock
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    | timestamp = 00:32:48.640
    | text      = Within the seed of his creation, so was the seed of his destruction, Dan.
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{{TranscriptBlock
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    | text      = It is interesting.
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    | text      = My working theory on it is that Alex Hero worshiped Bill Cooper to a great degree in
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{{TranscriptBlock
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    | text      = terms of his position in the Patriot community, his militia stuff.
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{{TranscriptBlock
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    | text      = He sought to become Bill but greater or something like that.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
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    | text      = Then they started to interact in some way and it went bad and Bill didn't like Alex.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
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    | text      = It saw through his shit and that made Alex furious.
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{{TranscriptBlock
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    | text      = That's my theory.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 00:33:21.759
    | text      = So there's more to this call, though.
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{{TranscriptBlock
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    | text      = I just feel sorry for Bill and he really let him set him up and ran out there and helped
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
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    | text      = him kill him.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
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    | text      = It's just a big distraction, sir.
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{{TranscriptBlock
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    | text      = I don't talk about flying saucers and all that stuff, man.
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{{TranscriptBlock
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    | timestamp = 00:33:35.680
    | text      = I'm sorry.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 00:33:36.319
    | text      = And it's all like an ego thing, like it's two football teams and who's for who.
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{{TranscriptBlock
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    | text      = I'm sorry for Bill.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 00:33:42.559
    | text      = But anybody, I mean, he was a liar, though.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
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    | text      = You know, one time I had him on the radio and he was cussing and I delayed him once.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
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    | text      = Then I said, please don't cuss again.
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{{TranscriptBlock
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    | text      = I'm delaying him.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 00:33:51.279
    | text      = And I said, okay, thank you.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
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    | text      = Bye bye.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 00:33:54.720
    | text      = And then he went around saying he never cussed.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
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    | text      = The guy cussed on air.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
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    | text      = He cussed at everybody.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
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    | text      = He was yelling at the board op going, you effing little idiot, you know, I told you
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    | text      = to call this number to effing have me on.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 00:34:05.519
    | text      = And then he says that he didn't, you know, the guy, he was a pathetic drunk and I don't
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{{TranscriptBlock
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    | timestamp = 00:34:10.480
    | text      = like attacking people, but if you really want to know, that's it.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 00:34:14.639
    | text      = Is that your answer?
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{{TranscriptBlock
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    | timestamp = 00:34:15.360
    | text      = You like that answer?
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 00:34:17.920
    | text      = Anything else, sir?
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
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    | text      = That, uh, I believe, I mean, I know you're putting out a lot of truth out there and I'm
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{{TranscriptBlock
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    | timestamp = 00:34:22.800
    | text      = not the, I'll tell you the best.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 00:34:24.079
    | text      = Look, man, some dead drunk and I drink a few beers too.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 00:34:28.320
    | text      = But the point is he would get falling down drunk.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
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    | text      = Okay.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 00:34:32.480
    | text      = And I was nice.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 00:34:33.280
    | text      = He said the IRS was after him and he did help.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
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    | text      = I call him up and go, Hey, this is Alex Jones.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 00:34:37.199
    | text      = Like to interview you, get you some help with the IRS.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 00:34:38.960
    | text      = And he goes, I've heard you, you little S H I T.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 00:34:42.400
    | text      = You don't know as much as I do.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 00:34:43.519
    | text      = And I said, well, I'd like to have you on and help you out with the IRS.
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{{TranscriptBlock
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    | text      = I mean, that's what I get for helping him is him doing that.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 00:34:49.519
    | text      = And then, and then, and then, and then you call me seven years after he's dead and ask
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 00:34:54.000
    | text      = me about him.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 00:34:55.119
    | text      = It isn't about bill Cooper.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 00:34:57.119
    | text      = Okay.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 00:34:57.519
    | text      = It's about Northcom, the new world order, get our heads screwed on straight, deal with
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 00:35:01.840
    | text      = the issues.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 00:35:02.320
    | text      = I asked callers to call in and talk about what we're going to do about what's coming
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 00:35:06.480
    | text      = down on us, not a dead alcoholic, crazy person.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 00:35:11.280
    | text      = So that should give you some sort of a indication of how triggered Alex is when anybody even
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 00:35:16.880
    | text      = just brings up the name bill Cooper.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 00:35:19.199
    | text      = Alex's daddy issues are intense, varied, and all across the board.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 00:35:24.400
    | text      = But don't you find that interesting?
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 00:35:25.679
    | text      = Like the caller just asked, what do you think of bill Cooper?
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 00:35:28.880
    | text      = Alex launches into that with no help from the caller.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 00:35:35.119
    | text      = The caller isn't like, I love bill Cooper or anything like that.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 00:35:38.480
    | text      = And even halfway through the callers like, Alex, I believe you.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 00:35:41.440
    | text      = I trust you.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 00:35:42.079
    | text      = You know, like he's saying, oh, that's interesting.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 00:35:44.559
    | text      = I'm on your side.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 00:35:45.599
    | text      = And Alex is still defensive about it.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 00:35:47.679
    | text      = He hates it when anybody brings up bill Cooper.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 00:35:50.719
    | text      = And the reason for that is Alex is fucking totally lying.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 00:35:56.400
    | text      = Absolutely categorically, totally lying.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 00:36:00.159
    | text      = Bill Cooper has been on Alex Jones's show exactly one time in 1998.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 00:36:05.199
    | text      = So that's before the Y2K stuff.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 00:36:07.119
    | text      = Yeah.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 00:36:07.840
    | text      = And when he was on, it did not go the way Alex says it did.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 00:36:11.840
    | text      = Absolutely not.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 00:36:13.039
    | text      = There is no indication that he cusses at all.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 00:36:16.079
    | text      = He was on the radio for over 40 minutes, not including commercial breaks.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 00:36:20.159
    | text      = So he was probably on an entire hour of Alex's show in 98, which might've been his whole
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 00:36:24.559
    | text      = show back then, quite frankly.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 00:36:26.000
    | text      = I don't know how long he was broadcasting back then, but here is how the interview starts.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 00:36:29.679
    | text      = No shit.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 00:36:30.239
    | text      = You've got the interview.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 00:36:31.360
    | text      = Yup.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 00:36:31.760
    | text      = I'm so fucking excited.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 00:36:32.960
    | text      = Mr. Cooper.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 00:36:34.079
    | text      = Hello.
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    | text      = That's one of my friends just called in.
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    | text      = He's got an Apache over his house with camera pods and infrared taking film.
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    | text      = We're going to play that on our TV show.
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    | text      = This is just wonderful.
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    | text      = We get followed around by unmarked police cars, openly taking 35 millimeter photographs
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    | text      = of us.
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    | text      = That's just wonderful, isn't it?
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    | text      = So you see already, this is how he introduces him.
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    | text      = He says, how's it going?
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    | text      = Bill, like almost to give a sense of familiarity, uh, friendliness.
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    | text      = And then he immediately starts launching into a way of trying to impress bill.
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    | text      = Talking about how one of his callers who had just called in, uh, has a black helicopter
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    | text      = over his house.
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    | text      = I'm just like you, daddy.
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    | text      = There's a sense of that.
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    | text      = Well, it's, uh, it's just one other manifestation of the Nazi Gestapo police state, which has
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    | text      = taken over this country.
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    | text      = Again, I mean, I get on this program six days a week and I know how you feel when I talk
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    | text      = to you this week.
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    | text      = And I'm 24 years old.
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    | text      = I'm ready to just say, screw it because you got these people cramming cheeseburgers in
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    | text      = their mouth and they love it.
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    | text      = I mean, does it ever anger you?
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    | text      = Well, of course it does.
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    | text      = What angers me most is the stupidity of the vast herd of American sheeple out there.
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    | text      = So also Bill Cooper is one of the people who's most, uh, uh, noted for popularizing the term
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    | text      = sheeple.
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    | text      = So we've got him to thank for that.
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    | text      = Um, but you see there, like it seems like the person who's more unhinged is Alex.
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    | text      = He's screaming about how mad he is.
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    | text      = And then there's a long pause and he's like, don't you ever get mad?
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    | text      = Almost as a way of like trying to find the common bond, trying to find that, uh, that,
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    | text      = uh, first means of connection.
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    | text      = Uh, they think they know something and they don't even know what planet they're on to
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    | text      = tell you the truth.
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    | text      = No, they don't.
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    | text      = Simple things like private banks, print the money and enslave everyone.
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    | text      = And simple things like Clinton's a transnational agent.
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    | text      = Well, your book, uh, behold, a pale horse is well-known to almost everybody that, uh,
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    | text      = has any know-how on any of these subjects.
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    | text      = Um, you wrote that in 1988, didn't you, sir?
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    | text      = So he's already plugging the book that he's claimed he hasn't read and barely knows anything
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    | text      = about.
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    | text      = It's stupid.
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    | text      = It's about UFOs, but he's saying anyone who knows anything knows about this book.
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    | text      = So he's already, uh, if you look at the actual document here, he's very clearly a hundred
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    | text      = percent lying about this interaction.
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    | text      = So he asked Bill, it was written in 1988, which would have been 10 years prior to this
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    | text      = interview.
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    | text      = And Alex, this fact's a little wrong.
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    | text      = Sure.
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    | text      = Well, actually I wrote it over a period of years, uh, back beginning in the early eighties
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    | text      = and continuing up, uh, into about 88.
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    | text      = I finished it, I believe in, uh, 89 and I may have added a couple of things in 90 and
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    | text      = then it was published in December of 1990.
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{{TranscriptBlock
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    | text      = December of 1990.
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    | text      = How many copies are out?
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    | text      = I have no idea.
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    | text      = It's been the number one underground bestseller of all time with no advertising whatsoever.
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    | text      = Um, and, uh, people sell it on the street corners in New York city.
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    | text      = I had to take it off the shelf in their New York city bookstore because it's by their
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    | text      = own admission, it's the most stolen book in their inventory.
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    | text      = The most stolen book in their inventory.
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    | text      = Yeah.
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    | text      = Why don't people got tons of them around here?
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    | text      = Why don't you tell people, sir, just a, basically an overview of what behold a pale horse tells
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    | text      = the public.
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    | text      = And now it's even more incredible that so much of what you've written has come through
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    | text      = in the last eight years.
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    | text      = So he's, he's giving him prophetic status here at the end, all these things you wrote
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    | text      = about in this book that I'm later going to pretend I didn't read have come true.
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    | text      = This interview to me, knowing Alex as intimately as I do from his work, I hear an insecure
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    | text      = Alex.
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    | text      = I hear an Alex who in 98 wasn't the Alex of, you know, the mid to late two thousands, you
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    | text      = know, like he's not the same broadcaster with the same status.
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    | text      = And he knows that Bill Cooper in the worlds that he wants to be a part of and fancies
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    | text      = himself a part of is a hero in that world.
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    | text      = Yeah.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
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    | text      = He is totally like the way he's asking these questions and you heard it twice.
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    | text      = Yeah.
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    | text      = When Bill said the date his book came out, he's like December, 1990, almost contemplative,
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    | text      = reflective.
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    | text      = There's a sense of reverence to like minuscule details.
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    | text      = For sure.
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    | text      = And I think it's his way of covering, not really knowing how to interview this guy that
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    | text      = he likes a lot.
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    | text      = Yeah.
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    | text      = That's the sense that I get.
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    | text      = I it's exactly like it's exactly like so many of the times we see Alex's daddy issues show
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    | text      = up, like with the John Birch Society guy, like when he's talking to him, it's like this.
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    | text      = Oh, I'll give you whatever you want.
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    | text      = Please, please just give me some sort of fucking approval.
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{{TranscriptBlock
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    | text      = There are a sign of approval.
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    | text      = And you could make the argument that like Alex in the future from that clip with the
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    | text      = caller who asked about Bill Cooper, you could you could listen to that and you could say,
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    | text      = well, that's not Alex being insecure and reverent.
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    | text      = That's him being uncomfortable talking to him because he has him there for pity.
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    | text      = Sure.
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    | text      = But that doesn't track with the way he's lauding him, the way he's saying that your book, all
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 00:41:51.599
    | text      = these things have been proven true in the last eight years, keeps calling him, sir,
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    | text      = thank you for being here.
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    | text      = Yeah.
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{{TranscriptBlock
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    | timestamp = 00:41:56.960
    | text      = Um, just all of this.
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    | text      = Like he's he's supplicating for sure.
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{{TranscriptBlock
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    | timestamp = 00:42:01.280
    | text      = Yeah.
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    | timestamp = 00:42:01.920
    | text      = So we're not going to listen to much more of the interview itself because it's 40 minutes
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{{TranscriptBlock
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    | timestamp = 00:42:06.719
    | text      = and it's mostly the two of them agreeing and more of that.
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    | text      = You know what I'm saying?
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    | timestamp = 00:42:11.039
    | text      = Yeah.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 00:42:12.000
    | text      = It doesn't serve our purposes too much to go over that interview.
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{{TranscriptBlock
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    | text      = If anyone wants, you can find it on YouTube.
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{{TranscriptBlock
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    | text      = You can find the whole thing.
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    | timestamp = 00:42:19.519
    | text      = What I heard from Bill, which was interesting based on what we know about them now or what
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{{TranscriptBlock
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    | timestamp = 00:42:26.400
    | text      = you've told me about them, is that he is like giving those stock responses to like, he doesn't
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    | text      = believe that there's a Blackhawk helicopter or an Apache helicopter.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 00:42:36.239
    | text      = He doesn't give a fuck.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 00:42:36.960
    | text      = He's just like, yeah, see, that's another example of government gone wild.
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    | timestamp = 00:42:40.880
    | text      = Maybe there is, maybe there isn't.
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    | text      = Yeah, exactly.
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    | text      = I can't, I can't be a part of reinforcing this ink, but I don't think that even comes
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    | text      = from a place of distrusting Alex.
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    | text      = I think he has no idea who Alex is.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 00:42:51.440
    | text      = Exactly.
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{{TranscriptBlock
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    | timestamp = 00:42:51.920
    | text      = I think that that's probably, and I think you just hear a guy who's doing a radio interview.
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{{TranscriptBlock
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    | timestamp = 00:42:56.800
    | text      = Yeah.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 00:42:57.039
    | text      = And he's playing his role too.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 00:42:58.719
    | text      = That guy knows what's up.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 00:42:59.920
    | text      = He knows why he's there.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 00:43:01.039
    | text      = Yeah.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
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    | text      = So he doesn't swear, doesn't get kicked off the air at all.
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{{TranscriptBlock
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    | timestamp = 00:43:04.239
    | text      = And in fact, here's the end of the interview where Alex is profuse with his thanks.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 00:43:10.079
    | text      = Well, sir, I really go there.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 00:43:11.360
    | text      = They're going to be absolutely amazed.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 00:43:14.719
    | text      = Well, I've been there several times and it is a lot of good information people will see.
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{{TranscriptBlock
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    | text      = And I, I do respect you and, and I, I certainly hope that the Fed do back down because I know
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{{TranscriptBlock
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    | timestamp = 00:43:25.920
    | text      = that once a revolution does start in this country and we've had a couple of them, that
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 00:43:30.000
    | text      = it's not going to be a pretty one and that's it.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 00:43:33.039
    | text      = The whole thing starts.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
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    | text      = And I know that I'm on the list.
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{{TranscriptBlock
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    | text      = So at the beginning of that, he was talking about Bill's website for the website.
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{{TranscriptBlock
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    | timestamp = 00:43:41.280
    | text      = And actually even before that, I cut that clip terribly.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 00:43:43.519
    | text      = Right before that, Alex was asking him to stay over another break.
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{{TranscriptBlock
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    | text      = So the idea of him kicking him off the air isn't true.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 00:43:49.920
    | text      = They'd already run over the time allotted for their interview and he was asking him
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 00:43:53.440
    | text      = to stick around later.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 00:43:54.639
    | text      = Right.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 00:43:54.880
    | text      = And Bill said, I'll stick around, but I've got to plug my website.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 00:43:57.679
    | text      = Daddy, I know you only get to stay for the weekend, but can't you stay one more day?
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{{TranscriptBlock
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    | timestamp = 00:44:02.400
    | text      = So Alex's claims from that discussion with the caller about Bill don't track with reality
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 00:44:08.079
    | text      = at all.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 00:44:08.719
    | text      = They absolutely don't.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 00:44:09.920
    | text      = He didn't start swearing.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
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    | text      = Alex didn't kick him off the air.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 00:44:12.320
    | text      = None of that is true.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 00:44:13.519
    | text      = That is just Alex lying about someone who can't defend themselves now because they're
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 00:44:17.360
    | text      = dead.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 00:44:18.000
    | text      = That is a hundred percent is what I believe.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 00:44:20.719
    | text      = I was really hoping for a repeat of the Donda Grand Prix.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 00:44:24.000
    | text      = Oh, how do you feel about Bill Cooper?
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 00:44:26.239
    | text      = He's dead now.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 00:44:27.519
    | text      = Okay.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 00:44:28.480
    | text      = All right.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 00:44:28.800
    | text      = Well, then you have a good time.
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    | text      = Good work.
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    | text      = Good work, Alex.
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    | text      = So interestingly, September 11th happens and both of these gentlemen have put out their
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    | text      = The 2001.
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    | text      = Oh, okay. The 2001 one.
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    | text      = So Bill Cooper ends up dying in November 2001, but before he dies on the 26th of September
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    | text      = 2001, he puts out an episode of Hour of the Time titled Alex Jones Liar.
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    | text      = Jesus, this is cool.
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    | text      = Here is the first clip.
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    | text      = I am stoked.
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    | text      = You're listening to the Hour of the Time.
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    | text      = I'm William Cooper.
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    | text      = Good evening, folks.
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    | text      = Before we get started, I have to clear up a little discrepancy here.
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    | text      = Apparently the other night, or within the last week, because I've been getting a lot
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    | text      = of email about this, and I even received one telephone call, apparently somebody called
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    | text      = the Alex Jones broadcast and asked him why he didn't have me on the air, or asked him
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    | text      = something about me.
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    | text      = Alex Jones said he had had me on the air once before, several years ago, and had to cut
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    | text      = me off the air because of the foul language that I used.
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    | text      = So on the air tonight, I'm going to tell you, Alex Jones, you are a bold-faced, miserable,
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    | text      = stinking little coward liar.
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    | text      = Alex Jones, you are a bold-faced, stinking, rotten little coward liar.
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    | text      = Get him.
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    | text      = Feels good.
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    | text      = Feels good to hear.
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    | text      = Man!
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    | text      = Wow!
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    | text      = There's a piece of this that I kind of decided to do this episode partially because of Alex's
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    | text      = like weird 9-11 stuff last week, wanting to get into the prediction, but then I also really
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    | text      = wanted to just take a sort of, I don't know, it's almost a walk a little bit for an episode
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    | text      = of just like we get to end with Bill Cooper telling Alex Jones he's a big piece of shit
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    | text      = liar, he'd go fuck himself.
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    | text      = I am a huge fan of interrupting everything, and especially you, but fuck, this is fascinating.
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    | text      = I want to listen to all of this shit.
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    | text      = Yeah, I know.
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    | text      = I thought I was being very jokey whenever I said that he both
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    | text      = was the precursor for Alex Jones' show and ours, but it is really right on.
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    | text      = Well...
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    | text      = He was, 20 years ago, he was kicking ass doing what we're doing now, and nobody's had the
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    | text      = I hope that we get a review on iTunes that says, not since Bill Cooper has anyone taken
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    | text      = Alex down so hard.
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    | text      = But it's not like every episode of his show was about exposing the bullshit of these people.
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    | text      = No, of course not.
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    | text      = Like, he has one episode here from the 13th of September.
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    | text      = Atomic Bomb next.
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    | text      = I want to listen to that.
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    | text      = Let's just play that now.
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    | text      = And then Chemical and Biological Attack from October 9th.
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    | text      = He nailed it.
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    | text      = So like there's...
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    | text      = That one's about Syria.
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    | text      = There's a lot of like...
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    | text      = Most of his show, it does appear that most of it is crazy conspiratorial nonsense.
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    | text      = Okay, here's a new game.
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    | text      = Just read off the titles and I will try and make a real world corollary so he sounds right.
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    | text      = All right, here from September 11th, New York Attack, 9-11 number 8.
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    | text      = He did 10 episodes about it.
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    | text      = I'm gonna guess that he nailed that one.
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    | text      = That was the eighth attack on New York.
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    | text      = Okay, yeah, here, let's try a better one.
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    | text      = All right.
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    | text      = Let's try this one.
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    | text      = Okay.
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{{TranscriptBlock
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    | text      = Attack of the Ninja Owls from the 14th of February 2001.
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    | text      = Now, this price ages The Owls of Ga'Hoole, the movie...
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{{TranscriptBlock
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    | text      = Talking about The Guardians?
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{{TranscriptBlock
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    | text      = Yeah, The Guardians of whatever it is.
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    | text      = The Guardians, The Legend of the Owls of Ga'Hoole.
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{{TranscriptBlock
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    | text      = 11 for 11.
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    | text      = Okay, so look, I think I want to make this abundantly clear and I think I have already.
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    | text      = I don't know a ton about Bill Cooper and so nothing that I'm saying should in any way
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    | text      = be interpreted as me signing off on anything he believes.
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    | text      = Everything I say should be said that I think Bill Cooper has been right about everything.
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    | text      = I'm certain that if I listen to a ton more of these episodes,
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    | text      = I would find tons of problems and probably incredibly latent antisemitism or overt.
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    | text      = I was gonna say overt seems almost a lot.
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    | text      = I would and probably really scary dangerous patriot type rhetoric.
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    | text      = I am certain of that.
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    | text      = Yeah.
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    | text      = In the same breath, I can say I'm interested in his interaction and intersection with the
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    | text      = world that we cover vis-a-vis Alex Jones being that he's clearly his inspiration and clearly
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    | text      = it didn't work out for Alex and that's pretty funny.
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    | text      = When did Carrie start broadcasting?
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    | text      = Carrie Cassidy?
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    | text      = Yeah.
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{{TranscriptBlock
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    | text      = It's hard to tell her YouTube channel probably started in like 2010,
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    | text      = but I think Project Camelot existed before that in some form like a message board.
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    | text      = Do you mean that it started in November 2001 when the soul of Bill Cooper
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    | text      = was instead transported into the body of Carrie Cassidy?
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{{TranscriptBlock
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    | text      = Carrie Cassidy was still trying to get films made back then.
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    | text      = Bill Cooper is the progenitor of the Alex Jones show, our show and Project Camelot.
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    | text      = Carrie Cassidy is a fan of Alex Jones.
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    | text      = God damn it.
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    | text      = What is his theme song?
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    | text      = Because if it's William, William, William.
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    | text      = All right.
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    | text      = You can hear his theme song.
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    | text      = Okay.
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    | text      = That's it.
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    | text      = It's basically that.
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    | text      = It's like an air raid siren, which is actually, I think is probably,
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    | text      = I mean, it's thematically right on.
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    | text      = It feels right.
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    | text      = Yeah, no, but I'm also glad we don't have a theme song and just come into a drop.
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    | text      = I don't want to get too into the weeds with this because like I said,
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    | text      = I do have some very strong reasons to suspect that Bill Cooper is a dangerous lunatic.
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    | text      = And if only...
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    | text      = Oh, the fact that he shot a cop isn't enough for you?
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    | text      = That's a good indication.
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    | text      = There are a few strong signs.
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    | text      = There's a red flag of some kind.
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    | text      = I mean like from, I mean like his work and his...
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    | text      = Yeah.
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    | text      = But I just don't know enough about it to be conversant in it.
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    | text      = Right, right, right.
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    | text      = So this is one of these weird, like I told you before we started the show,
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    | text      = this is a weird place for me to be in because we're covering a topic
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    | text      = that I admittedly don't have a good handle on.
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    | text      = Yeah.
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    | text      = Like I only know as much as I know.
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    | text      = And it's the world of Bill Cooper is a big world.
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    | text      = I know.
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    | text      = It's a huge world and I only have a hold on a tiny piece of it.
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    | text      = And so I feel out of my depth and very insecure, but...
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    | text      = This is more of like a teaser episode for our next Timey-Wimey Wednesday.
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    | text      = Yeah.
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    | text      = Where we go and really dig into Bill Cooper.
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    | text      = And it's weird that we're...
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    | text      = Because this is gonna happen.
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{{TranscriptBlock
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    | text      = I'm gonna text you all the time.
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{{TranscriptBlock
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    | text      = I want to know all about Bill Cooper
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{{TranscriptBlock
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    | text      = and about how he was fucking right about everything, Dad.
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{{TranscriptBlock
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    | text      = We're gonna explore him more.
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    | text      = I'm absolutely certain of that.
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{{TranscriptBlock
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    | text      = But the other thing too is that it's weird that we're doing this on a Monday episode,
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{{TranscriptBlock
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    | text      = but I should say that the 2009 stuff, one of the big reasons,
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{{TranscriptBlock
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    | text      = in addition to last week Alex re-bringing up 9-11 and all that shit,
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{{TranscriptBlock
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    | text      = the 2009 stuff has hit a snag.
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{{TranscriptBlock
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    | text      = There's some boring episodes.
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{{TranscriptBlock
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    | text      = Oh yeah.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
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    | text      = Yeah.
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{{TranscriptBlock
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    | text      = So Bill has his episode that he put out about Alex Jones being a liar
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{{TranscriptBlock
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    | text      = and we're not nearly done listening to him call Alex Jones a liar.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
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    | text      = Oh yeah.
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{{TranscriptBlock
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    | text      = Here's another clip where he does.
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{{TranscriptBlock
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    | text      = And he actually makes a very good criticism of Alex
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{{TranscriptBlock
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    | text      = in terms of him being a sensationalist.
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{{TranscriptBlock
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    | text      = I was only on the Alex Jones show one time.
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{{TranscriptBlock
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    | text      = It was years ago when I didn't know who he was,
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{{TranscriptBlock
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    | text      = when I didn't realize what a liar and a coward
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{{TranscriptBlock
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    | text      = and a sensationalist bullshit artist that he is.
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{{TranscriptBlock
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    | text      = Bill's 12 for 12.
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{{TranscriptBlock
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    | text      = He was on one little FM station down in Texas.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
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    | text      = He wasn't on all the stuff that he's on now.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
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    | text      = And I agreed to be on his broadcast.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
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    | text      = That's when I was doing guest appearances on broadcast years ago.
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{{TranscriptBlock
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    | text      = I was not cut off.
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{{TranscriptBlock
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    | text      = I did not use any kind of foul language whatsoever.
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{{TranscriptBlock
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    | text      = He treated me very well.
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    | text      = Tracks.
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    | text      = And I stayed on for the whole show.
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    | text      = Totally true.
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    | text      = Some of you in Texas know that that's true
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    | text      = because you heard the broadcast and you taped it.
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    | text      = Later when I found out who Alex Jones was
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    | text      = and what he was doing to the truth,
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    | text      = and how, what a cowardly liar and sensationalist he really is.
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    | text      = Every time he called me after that,
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    | text      = I have always refused to appear on his broadcast.
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    | text      = Absolutely refused to lend him any credibility whatsoever
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    | text      = by appearing on his broadcast.
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    | text      = And that made him very angry.
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    | text      = I believe all of that because Alex is a sensationalist.
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    | text      = He lies about everything.
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    | text      = Yeah, absolutely.
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    | text      = And I totally believe that Alex kept contacting him and be like,
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    | text      = should come back on the show.
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    | text      = And he's like, I don't, I don't think I want to be involved with you.
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    | text      = I look, like I said, Bill Cooper, probably wrong about just about everything.
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    | text      = But I do believe him when he says, Alex wanted me to come back on.
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    | text      = And I said, no.
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    | text      = Well, if you deny Alex three times before the cock crows,
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{{TranscriptBlock
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    | text      = he insists that you said a bunch of profanity on his show.
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    | text      = That, that has always been written.
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    | text      = I think that you can get away with appearing on shows that you don't support a little bit.
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    | text      = Like I have a real line with that, you know, that, that sort of idea,
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    | text      = because I don't think you should crucify somebody
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    | text      = from appearing on a show that asked them to be on that you don't like.
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    | text      = No, your episode of Punk'd was weird.
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    | text      = I got it.
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    | text      = That was weird.
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    | text      = That was weird.
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    | text      = When I made Justin Timberlake cry.
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    | text      = It's the only reference I have for Punk'd.
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    | text      = But like, the reason I'm thinking about this is because I think
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    | text      = the reason I'm thinking about this is like, there's tons and tons of guests
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    | text      = of Alex Jones' show who have been guests on Red Ice radio, Red Ice TV.
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    | text      = There's an outright white nationalist white supremacist show.
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    | text      = Ah.
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{{TranscriptBlock
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    | text      = I do think that probably some of them didn't know what it was
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    | text      = and got asked to come on as like a, eh, eh, it's a show.
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    | text      = There's some listeners.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
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    | text      = Everybody's got to get a, everybody's got to get a, you know, you got to fill your calendar.
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    | name      = Unknown Speaker
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    | text      = I need to fill my calendar.
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    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 00:54:54.159
    | text      = My calendar is empty.
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    | name      = Unknown Speaker
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    | text      = Anybody's listening who can fill my calendar.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
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    | text      = You can blow it every, every now and again.
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    | text      = I think you could probably be like, I shouldn't have done that.
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    | text      = Not going to do it again.
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    | text      = And I think Bill Cooper's probably in that sort of realm.
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    | text      = He went on Alex's show, later realized like, ah shit, shouldn't have done that.
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    | text      = Well, can't redo the past.
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    | text      = Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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    | timestamp = 00:55:12.159
    | text      = Now, spoiler alert.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 00:55:13.039
    | text      = John Rappaport's been on Red Ice four times.
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    | text      = Oh boy.
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{{TranscriptBlock
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    | text      = He knows what they are doing.
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    | name      = Unknown Speaker
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    | text      = Does he know?
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    | timestamp = 00:55:18.079
    | text      = Oh yeah.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
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    | text      = I don't.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
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    | text      = You don't show up on a show four times and not know the character of the show.
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    | timestamp = 00:55:23.360
    | text      = And you hang up a picture if you're able to learn the character of a fucking show.
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    | text      = I don't, I'm not going to hold it against him.
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    | text      = Maybe he's just him.
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    | text      = I'm just saying, man.
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{{TranscriptBlock
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    | text      = I think he might be dead.
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    | text      = I'm just saying.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
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    | text      = I think he's been dead for 15 years.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
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    | text      = He's dead inside.
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{{TranscriptBlock
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    | text      = So I believe all that.
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    | text      = I think that Bill is probably telling the truth about the idea that Alex wanted to back on,
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    | text      = said no.
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{{TranscriptBlock
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    | text      = And I do think that there's nothing, nothing terrible about it so far.
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{{TranscriptBlock
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    | text      = Based on what we know of Alex and how he reacts to situations exactly what, exactly like what
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{{TranscriptBlock
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    | text      = Bill Cooper describes, Alex is exacting like, is acting like everything that Bill Cooper
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{{TranscriptBlock
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    | text      = says was 100% correct.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
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    | text      = It feels that way.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
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    | text      = Bill Cooper is saying all the things that we would have just listening to Alex shit talk
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{{TranscriptBlock
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    | text      = him.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
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    | text      = I would have re I've reverse engineered like, Oh yeah.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
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    | text      = So he liked him and then someone burned him.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 00:56:14.079
    | text      = And then they decided that and Alex created this lie.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
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    | text      = You can't defend himself now.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
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    | text      = Yeah.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
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    | text      = Yeah.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 00:56:19.440
    | text      = And Bill Cooper.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
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    | text      = And it turns out from one of the clips we're going to hear right at the end of this thing
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    | text      = here.
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{{TranscriptBlock
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    | timestamp = 00:56:26.559
    | text      = One of Bill's callers calls in and says that Info Wars used to have the video up of that
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{{TranscriptBlock
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    | text      = interview, but they took it down.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 00:56:34.000
    | text      = It's implied that at some point it got taken down.
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{{TranscriptBlock
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    | timestamp = 00:56:36.159
    | text      = Oh man.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
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    | text      = So there is a decent chance that Alex was trying to bury this part of like, because
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 00:56:42.079
    | text      = my theory that Bill Cooper is right about everything is on track.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 00:56:46.159
    | text      = Your theory can only go so far as he's right about Alex.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 00:56:50.079
    | text      = Yes.
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{{TranscriptBlock
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    | text      = That doesn't mean that he's right about everything.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
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    | text      = Nope.
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{{TranscriptBlock
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    | timestamp = 00:56:53.519
    | text      = That is a logical fallacy.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
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    | text      = Here's the way it works.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 00:56:56.880
    | text      = You're right about Alex.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 00:56:58.000
    | text      = So I assume you're right about everything.
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{{TranscriptBlock
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    | timestamp = 00:56:59.679
    | text      = God, no, seriously.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 00:57:01.440
    | text      = No, you should have seen what I ate yesterday.
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{{TranscriptBlock
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    | timestamp = 00:57:03.679
    | text      = Oh boy.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 00:57:04.320
    | text      = God damn.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 00:57:05.119
    | text      = So dumb.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 00:57:05.760
    | text      = Can of chili.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 00:57:06.880
    | text      = Anyway, it was not right.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 00:57:10.159
    | text      = Shouldn't have done it.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 00:57:11.519
    | text      = I'll tell you who's never eaten a can of chili.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 00:57:14.079
    | text      = Bill fucking Cooper.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 00:57:15.679
    | text      = Untrue.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 00:57:16.159
    | text      = I'm certainly, I'm certain he's had a lot of, he's never eaten a can of chili.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 00:57:19.599
    | text      = Listen, he makes his chili homemade.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 00:57:22.159
    | text      = I don't know.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 00:57:22.719
    | text      = Grows it in his backyard.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 00:57:23.840
    | text      = Takes a long time.
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{{TranscriptBlock
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    | text      = So Alex, in his talk with the caller where he's lying about Bill, he says that Bill edited
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    | text      = up videos of me, which I've already explained to you was about the Y2K stuff.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 00:57:35.679
    | text      = And in Bill's show where he's calling Alex Jones a liar and talking shit on him, he brings
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    | text      = up why he did that.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 00:57:42.159
    | text      = I've also revealed him for the lying sensationalist bullshit artist that he is by every once in
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 00:57:51.599
    | text      = a while bringing to your attention the lies and the deceit and the rumors that he spreads
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 00:57:58.480
    | text      = over the airwaves that are not good for any of us and they're not good for the nation.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 00:58:05.599
    | text      = They are especially not good for militia and Patriots.
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{{TranscriptBlock
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    | timestamp = 00:58:08.800
    | text      = So I'm going to give you half points on that.
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{{TranscriptBlock
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    | text      = The most disgusting broadcast he ever did was on New Year's Eve, the year 2000, the
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{{TranscriptBlock
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    | timestamp = 00:58:22.719
    | text      = New Year's Eve 1999, bringing in the year 2000, in which he went completely out of his
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    | text      = mind and claimed that Russia had launched intercontinental ballistic missiles with multiple
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    | timestamp = 00:58:39.840
    | text      = warheads at the United States of America and actually panicked millions of people who were
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{{TranscriptBlock
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    | timestamp = 00:58:45.360
    | text      = putting their children and their belongings in their cars and heading for the hills.
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{{TranscriptBlock
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    | timestamp = 00:58:50.159
    | text      = So right there, I want to pause really quick.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 00:58:51.519
    | text      = He has more to say, but I think it's really important to point out that what Bill is taking
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{{TranscriptBlock
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    | timestamp = 00:58:56.559
    | text      = issue with and why he was so personally offended by this is two-pronged.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 00:59:00.800
    | text      = One, it's Alex has no respect for the truth.
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{{TranscriptBlock
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    | timestamp = 00:59:03.199
    | text      = He's basing his operation and his behavior and his reportage entirely on rumors and conjecture
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{{TranscriptBlock
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    | timestamp = 00:59:09.280
    | text      = and hearsay.
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    | text      = The second, which I think is more important, is that Bill recognizes that the things Alex
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    | text      = says have an effect on the people who hear them.
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{{TranscriptBlock
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    | text      = He's taking very strong issue with the idea that Alex said these things, people heard
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{{TranscriptBlock
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    | text      = them and got into a panic and headed for the hills.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
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    | text      = That's part of his negative consequence that he's describing of Alex's actions.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
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    | text      = And I think that's super important.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 00:59:31.119
    | text      = Who the fuck is Bill Cooper?
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 00:59:33.039
    | text      = I need to know way more about it.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 00:59:34.320
    | text      = It is interesting that he recognizes the responsibility of someone in a position like his or like
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 00:59:40.320
    | text      = Alex's that is don't get people into a place of tizzy unnecessarily or something like that.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 00:59:46.480
    | text      = Yeah, this is bananas.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 00:59:47.519
    | text      = Because there's consequences for the people who hear your lies.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 00:59:50.320
    | text      = Of course.
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{{TranscriptBlock
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    | timestamp = 00:59:50.880
    | text      = And that's an important human piece of this.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 00:59:53.039
    | text      = It often gets buried.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 00:59:55.119
    | text      = I think we try and bring it up, but it often gets buried in terms of the, except for whenever
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{{TranscriptBlock
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    | text      = people talk about Alex vis-a-vis getting Sandy Hook families harassed and stuff like that.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:00:05.039
    | text      = Hear those consequences then.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:00:06.320
    | text      = But the human element of it is so it's not ignored, but it's very rarely made a big part
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    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:00:15.039
    | text      = of the problem.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:00:16.000
    | text      = And it is.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:00:16.800
    | text      = Yeah, Bill is fascinating.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:00:18.719
    | text      = It sounds like he's got a great radio voice, too.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:00:21.519
    | text      = He sounds a little bit like he's got Alex Jones's ideology and Dan Rather's voice.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:00:26.480
    | text      = It's like he's so calming in the way that he's saying that everybody is going to try
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:00:32.960
    | text      = and kill you.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:00:34.159
    | text      = Yeah, it is a little incongruous.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:00:36.480
    | text      = And it's unlike David Knight in that David Knight is just boring.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:00:39.920
    | text      = Yeah, Bill's not boring.
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    | text      = No, Bill is not boring.
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    | text      = Bill is soothing.
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    | text      = He's just like, and they're coming to murder you and your family.
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    | text      = This is the news on the hour of the time.
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    | text      = Yeah, it does go to show that, like, being not boring is much different than having a
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    | text      = boring delivery.
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    | text      = It's not always a one to one.
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    | text      = Yeah, David Knight could be interesting even with his fucking terrible delivery.
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    | text      = I don't think that could get well soon, David.
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    | text      = Now, there's lots of things that can be said about me.
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    | text      = Nobody needs to lie about me.
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    | text      = Sometimes I am irritating.
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    | text      = Sometimes I absolutely will not suffer fools and am just as rude as I can be.
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    | text      = I did a donkey.
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    | text      = Nobody has to lie about me, Alex Jones.
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    | text      = So I suggest that the next time somebody calls your broadcast and ask them about me, you
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    | text      = tell the truth.
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    | text      = There's lots of truth that you can tell about me.
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    | text      = But don't ever lie on me, buddy, because I'll chop you off at your ankles.
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    | text      = I will chew you up.
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    | text      = I will spit you out for the lying, stinking, rotten little coward that you are.
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    | text      = I think he hits a lot of the main points.
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    | text      = Yeah, I'm going to give him a slight look.
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    | text      = Just some studio notes.
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    | text      = You can leave the cutting the ankles part out.
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    | text      = You were doing great.
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    | text      = You were doing great.
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    | text      = It is a little bit weak.
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    | text      = He already said bullshit or so.
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    | text      = He clearly cuts on his own show.
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    | text      = So like cutting you off at the ankles is kind of like it's ungratifying as a threat.
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    | text      = Yeah, exactly.
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    | text      = I don't know.
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    | text      = Yeah, you're not wrong.
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    | text      = Either jump the threat way up or just let the threat go.
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    | text      = You don't need it.
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    | text      = Yeah.
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    | text      = Yeah, so I mean, it's a little bit redundant to if I were giving other studio notes, the
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    | text      = idea of like, well, you just keep saying he's a liar.
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    | text      = I mean, that it can never be said enough, quite frankly.
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    | text      = He is lying.
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    | text      = Yeah.
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    | text      = So what's interesting to me is that call that we heard from Alex talking to the caller about
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    | text      = Bill Cooper.
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{{TranscriptBlock
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    | text      = Yeah, that was from like 2008, 2009.
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{{TranscriptBlock
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    | text      = Yeah, Bill was dead by then.
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{{TranscriptBlock
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    | text      = Yeah, seven or eight years and Alex is still September of 2001.
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    | text      = Bill put out this episode responding to a caller calling into Alex's show and Alex responding
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    | text      = the exact same way.
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    | text      = Yeah.
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{{TranscriptBlock
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    | text      = So we do know that at least from 2001 onward, that's been Alex's sort of rewriting of the
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    | text      = interview that they did.
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    | text      = Alex holds a fucking grudge, man, because that because the 2008 or 2009 area was like,
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{{TranscriptBlock
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    | timestamp = 01:03:09.039
    | text      = dude, you feel that fresh.
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{{TranscriptBlock
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    | text      = Those wounds are fresh.
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    | text      = But I think it's because it highlights something that's so important about his own self-mythology.
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    | text      = That he's a giant fraud and he knows it?
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    | text      = Yes.
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    | text      = Yeah.
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    | text      = And then also that he is a coward, Bill Cooper.
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    | text      = And I don't mean to say that Bill is admirable or anything in like...
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    | text      = No, no.
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    | text      = I mean, but he is someone who clearly was willing to stand on whatever principles, no
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{{TranscriptBlock
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    | text      = matter how dumb or backward they were, like he shot a fucking cop and got killed rather
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    | text      = than own up to the fact that he's got to pay taxes.
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{{TranscriptBlock
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    | text      = Like that's not a good thing.
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    | text      = But if you look at a propagandist like an anti-tax propagandist, if you're going that
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    | text      = far, you have your principle.
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    | text      = You have the integrity, good or bad, of whatever it is you present yourself as believing in.
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    | text      = And with Alex, he has none of that.
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{{TranscriptBlock
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    | text      = Every time that we have talked about Alex waffling and changing his position and all
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
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    | text      = of those things, and we've said, according to your own principles, you should be against
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{{TranscriptBlock
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    | text      = this, Bill Cooper would just be against it.
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{{TranscriptBlock
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    | text      = Like, it seems like Bill Cooper did not give a fuck about anything other than believing
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    | text      = that the government was coming to kill him.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:04:25.360
    | text      = And aliens are somehow in play.
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{{TranscriptBlock
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    | text      = Yeah, it seems more like Bill Cooper was not so much ideologically consistent as he was
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{{TranscriptBlock
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    | text      = fucking crazy.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
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    | text      = He was crazy consistent and consistent to the crazy and consistently crazy.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
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    | text      = Yeah, it does appear that way.
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{{TranscriptBlock
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    | text      = Again, not being an expert on him, it's hard for me to say with too much certainty.
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    | text      = But the sense that you get is that is that there is there is a through line through.
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    | text      = And he wasn't deviating that from that for a fucking second.
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{{TranscriptBlock
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    | text      = And that he did the clip show as opposed to just doing the beef.
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{{TranscriptBlock
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    | timestamp = 01:05:03.519
    | text      = So that's the thing that gets me as far as as far as the con man, non con man level,
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
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    | text      = the con men recognize that the beef is fine.
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{{TranscriptBlock
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    | text      = Yeah.
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{{TranscriptBlock
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    | text      = You know, but they don't do specifics about each other.
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{{TranscriptBlock
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    | text      = They don't say, I'm going to do a clip show where I prove you wrong.
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    | text      = Even when Alex was doing the well, when Alex was shitting all over the bed, doing the Glenn
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{{TranscriptBlock
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    | timestamp = 01:05:25.340
    | text      = Beck expose.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:05:26.880
    | text      = He still didn't have anything.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:05:28.400
    | text      = Nope.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:05:29.400
    | text      = But Bill fucking did it, man.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:05:31.440
    | text      = He went straight for the con man's balls by using his own words against him.
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{{TranscriptBlock
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    | text      = And another aspect, too, is that, like, he sells books and all that stuff.
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{{TranscriptBlock
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    | timestamp = 01:05:39.659
    | text      = But at least it's episodes that I've listened to and I've listened to a number of them.
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{{TranscriptBlock
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    | text      = Not nearly enough, but I've listened to a number of them.
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{{TranscriptBlock
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    | text      = And he doesn't ask for money, really.
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{{TranscriptBlock
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    | text      = Like the con isn't there in terms of Bill.
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    | text      = And there's even a call that I heard where this guy was talking about how he doesn't
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    | text      = have a lot of money.
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    | timestamp = 01:05:58.239
    | text      = But when he does, he's going to send Bill some so he can have all the air time that
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{{TranscriptBlock
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    | timestamp = 01:06:02.280
    | text      = he needs.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:06:03.280
    | text      = That sort of thing.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:06:04.280
    | text      = And Bill's response is to laugh at him.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
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    | text      = Like, not meanly, but just like, all right, well, thank you.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:06:08.599
    | text      = That's nice of you or something like that.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:06:10.219
    | text      = It doesn't seem like he's motivated by the same.
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{{TranscriptBlock
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    | timestamp = 01:06:12.679
    | text      = Granted, he is a con man in terms of getting you to believe things that aren't true for
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{{TranscriptBlock
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    | timestamp = 01:06:16.880
    | text      = his own enrichment, but he doesn't seem to be primarily motivated by it.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:06:20.719
    | text      = I want to know more about Bill Cooper.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:06:23.000
    | text      = And this dude is might have been a mistake of an episode, dude, as I think it opens up.
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    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:06:27.840
    | text      = Hell no.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:06:28.840
    | text      = It might open up way too big of a vista.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:06:30.880
    | text      = You know, like, I think that the horizon is too large for us.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:06:34.280
    | text      = What's the name of this show?
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:06:35.280
    | text      = It's called Hour of the Time.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:06:36.559
    | text      = All right.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:06:37.559
    | text      = Well, we did.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:06:38.559
    | text      = We did this podcast about Alex Jones.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:06:41.019
    | text      = We finished and it was a knowledge fight.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:06:43.559
    | text      = All right.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:06:44.559
    | text      = So now we just moved to Bill Cooper and it's now the week of the now's simple.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:06:50.320
    | text      = Bill Cooper legitimately rebranding.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:06:52.440
    | text      = Yeah.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:06:53.440
    | text      = No.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:06:54.440
    | text      = Bill Cooper only interests me really in as much as he is sort of a prototype and a precursor
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:06:59.880
    | text      = to Alex and someone who seems to believed it much more than Alex.
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{{TranscriptBlock
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    | timestamp = 01:07:04.219
    | text      = And Alex was able to use a lot of what Bill stood for and a lot of the world that Bill
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:07:09.159
    | text      = was in as the window dressing and camouflage for him to sell Ted Anderson's gold and all
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:07:15.199
    | text      = the other scams that he's been pulling over the years.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:07:17.239
    | text      = Yeah.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:07:18.239
    | text      = The thing that he's...
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:07:19.239
    | text      = I think he's interested from that approach and I do want to cover him more, but less
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:07:22.199
    | text      = as like, let's just talk Bill Cooper for a bit.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:07:25.480
    | text      = No, of course not.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:07:26.480
    | text      = I was being facetious.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:07:27.480
    | text      = I understand.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:07:28.480
    | text      = But I want the audience to know I'm interested in learning a ton about him, but only to enrich
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:07:33.159
    | text      = our understanding of early Alex Jones.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:07:35.760
    | text      = Right.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:07:36.760
    | text      = Because his shows from 98 are available.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:07:38.780
    | text      = Alex's aren't.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:07:39.780
    | text      = Like a lot of that stuff you can't find on the internet and man, I've been trying to
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:07:43.280
    | text      = track down VHSs and a lot of emails have been returned.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:07:47.320
    | text      = Nope.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:07:48.320
    | text      = No idea.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:07:49.320
    | text      = I can't find these early days Alex Jones episodes super easily.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:07:54.079
    | text      = There's very few resources to find them and if anybody out there has any tips, please
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:07:58.119
    | text      = let me know.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:07:59.239
    | text      = But this does give a window into what that world was like on a day-to-day basis through
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:08:04.239
    | text      = this radio show that clearly Alex had to have been listening to.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:08:07.880
    | text      = Right.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:08:08.880
    | text      = What it is that formed him into what he would become.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:08:11.920
    | text      = Well, the thing that I think Bill Cooper makes abundantly clear is the logical end point
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:08:20.479
    | text      = for a Alex Jones style propagandist who actually believes what they're saying.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:08:27.159
    | text      = The logical end point for an Alex Jones that believes what he's saying is to be murdered
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:08:32.680
    | text      = by the cops.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:08:34.159
    | text      = Like that's the reality of it.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:08:36.439
    | text      = Simply by his continued existence, we can surmise that Alex Jones doesn't believe a
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{{TranscriptBlock
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    | timestamp = 01:08:40.600
    | text      = goddamn thing that he's saying because we have a case study and somebody who does believe
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:08:44.800
    | text      = what they're saying, fucking getting, killing himself by cop.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:08:49.319
    | text      = I'm going to push back on that just a tiny bit because it didn't have to go that way.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:08:53.899
    | text      = Of course it didn't.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:08:54.899
    | text      = No, because Bill could have continued doing exactly what he was doing if he wasn't threatening
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    | text      = locals with guns and stuff like that.
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    | text      = It wasn't just his presence that threatened them.
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    | text      = He was going around and harassing people.
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    | text      = And Alex doesn't do that?
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    | text      = I don't know.
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    | text      = Fair point.
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    | text      = But also even if Alex were doing that, he doesn't have an outstanding warrant for bank
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    | text      = fraud and tax evasion that the cops could act on.
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    | text      = It would have to be a new motion for them to arrest him.
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    | text      = Bill Cooper didn't have to commit suicide by cop.
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    | text      = He didn't have to go that route.
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    | text      = It's not the logical end point of a propagandist like this who believes the things they do.
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    | text      = It's a logical end point of a propagandist who believes this sort of stuff and also likes
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    | text      = to threaten people with guns.
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    | text      = That's the point.
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    | text      = I don't want to give him any credence for his death.
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    | text      = Like it being like, well, we are saying that it's like, well, you believed it enough to
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    | text      = get there.
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    | text      = Yeah.
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    | text      = That part's true.
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    | text      = Yeah.
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    | text      = But what really precipitated it is him being a fucking asshole.
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    | text      = Right.
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    | text      = And also shooting the cops.
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    | text      = He could have just he could have gone peacefully.
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    | text      = But that's.
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    | text      = That's the narrative all the time is like if the cops come for your guns, you need to
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    | text      = be prepared to kill the cops.
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    | text      = We just saw that on a present day episode.
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    | text      = Yeah.
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    | text      = He does believe that.
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    | text      = It's also stolen from Bill because Bill because Bill did it.
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    | text      = Yep.
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    | text      = God, it's so weird to see the parallels between so many underground like comedians and musicians
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    | text      = who should who everybody's like, oh, they should have been more.
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    | text      = Oh, mud honey should have been way bigger than Nirvana.
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    | text      = That whole thing.
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    | text      = They're the underground.
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    | text      = The meat puppet should have been way bigger.
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    | text      = Bill Cooper should have been way bigger than your shit.
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    | text      = Alex Jones.
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    | text      = But here's the problem.
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    | text      = And I think that this is one of the reasons why this is a difficult episode for me to
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    | text      = do is like a lot of people who are listening to this are in the know and they know exactly
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    | text      = how huge Bill Cooper is.
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    | text      = Yeah.
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    | text      = And then there's a lot of people who listen who are like you who have no idea who he is.
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    | text      = No clue.
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    | text      = It's an interesting line to walk in terms of the show where we're giving an introduction
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    | text      = sort of to this as another topic that will come up over the course of our podcast.
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    | text      = Right.
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    | text      = And that might be unsatisfying to the people who are metaphorically mud honey fans or whatever.
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    | text      = You know what I mean?
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    | text      = Because.
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    | text      = Yeah.
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    | text      = Yeah.
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    | text      = No, I get what you're saying.
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    | text      = Because what you're expressing isn't true.
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    | text      = Like the idea of like, why wasn't Bill Cooper bigger?
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    | text      = He was huge.
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    | text      = He's very big.
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    | text      = But I think the answer to that is obviously he committed suicide by cop.
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    | text      = That's probably one of the reasons he wasn't bigger.
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    | text      = Well, that hurt his lingering appeal, you know, like couldn't put out new stuff after
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    | text      = that.
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    | text      = Yeah, it's tough.
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    | text      = But he's not a minor variable.
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    | text      = He is someone who was very important to this world of conspiracy and propaganda and malicious
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    | text      = stuff.
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    | text      = So it.
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    | text      = I don't.
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    | text      = I get it.
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    | text      = You want to you want a hammer.
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    | text      = You want to.
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    | text      = You want to bring a button.
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    | text      = You want to put a button in this.
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    | text      = I don't know.
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    | text      = I have another clip.
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    | text      = I thought you were sounding like you were wrapping up and you were unsatisfied.
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    | text      = No, I wasn't.
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    | text      = No, it's not that.
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    | text      = I was I'm I it's all just like what I've been expressing this entire time and what I said
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    | text      = before the show.
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    | text      = It's I don't know a ton.
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    | text      = I want I'm going to learn more.
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    | text      = But as we're doing this show, this episode, it's not to give like here's Bill Cooper.
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    | text      = Right.
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    | text      = It's a here's an interesting incident from Alex's career.
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    | text      = Two incidents, actually, the 9-11 prediction incident and then the lying about the interview
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    | text      = with Bill Cooper.
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    | text      = Right.
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    | text      = And so.
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    | text      = No, you're furious that you're conversant and not a Ph.D. in the subject.
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{{TranscriptBlock
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    | text      = More or less.
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    | name      = Unknown Speaker
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    | text      = And talking about it.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
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    | text      = It's a bit it's a bit of that.
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    | text      = Yeah.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
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    | text      = And I just have to make peace with that.
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{{TranscriptBlock
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    | text      = And I will.
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    | text      = It'll happen.
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    | name      = Unknown Speaker
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    | text      = But we have one last thing here.
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    | text      = And that is we already know that Alex was lying to his caller about what happened with
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    | text      = the bill.
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{{TranscriptBlock
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    | text      = But in this next clip, Bill, say, fill your hand first, too.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
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    | text      = What else is what else is Alex stealing from Bill?
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    | text      = It's probably the list.
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    | text      = Where's Nunk?
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    | text      = No, Bill didn't kill Nunk.
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{{TranscriptBlock
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    | text      = On Bill's show where he's talking about how Alex Jones is a liar, which, again, we don't
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    | text      = need a backup to prove it is the case.
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{{TranscriptBlock
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    | text      = Bill takes some calls and they all have his back.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:13:17.279
    | text      = Good evening.
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    | name      = Unknown Speaker
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    | text      = You're here.
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    | text      = Yeah.
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{{TranscriptBlock
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    | text      = Hi, Mr. Cooper.
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    | text      = Listen, that Alex Jones interview was directly after you published the Baratost June 26,
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{{TranscriptBlock
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    | timestamp = 01:13:27.560
    | text      = 1998 issue about the Cooper family being targeted by the feds.
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    | text      = Yeah.
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{{TranscriptBlock
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    | text      = Yeah, I heard it.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:13:33.840
    | text      = Yeah, back in the 1990s.
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{{TranscriptBlock
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    | text      = Did he check me off the air?
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{{TranscriptBlock
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    | text      = No, he's a liar and you pointed it out and I heard that interview and you were nothing
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    | text      = but cordial.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:13:42.319
    | text      = Yeah.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
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    | text      = Well, that's the truth.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:13:44.319
    | text      = That's the truth.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:13:45.319
    | text      = Thank you.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
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    | text      = I even like his callers more.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:13:47.319
    | text      = Thank you, Virginia.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:13:48.319
    | text      = Alex Jones is a miserable, rotten, little, stinking, cowardly, bold-faced liar.
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    | text      = Boy, you know, all of these people ought to know better than to mess with me, because
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{{TranscriptBlock
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    | timestamp = 01:14:00.680
    | text      = I don't take any crap from anybody.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:14:02.840
    | text      = It's true.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:14:03.840
    | text      = And if I'm not afraid of the whole machinations of the entire government Gestapo, what in
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:14:09.319
    | text      = the hell makes Alex Jones think that I would ever be afraid of his cowardly, little, rotten
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    | timestamp = 01:14:15.079
    | text      = butt?
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:14:16.079
    | text      = Good evening.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:14:17.079
    | text      = You're on the air.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:14:18.079
    | text      = I just wanted to let you know, I verified what you said about that Alex Jones interview.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:14:23.079
    | text      = They had it archived on the internet at one time, and I did hear that interview, and there
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
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    | text      = was nothing wrong with what you did.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:14:30.880
    | text      = And I wasn't thrown off the air, was I?
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
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    | text      = Not a bit.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:14:33.479
    | text      = No.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
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    | text      = And it's the only interview I ever did with Alex Jones.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
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    | text      = As soon as I found out what he was doing and who he really was, he's called me back at
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
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    | text      = least a hundred times since then, and I've always told him to take a hike.
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{{TranscriptBlock
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    | timestamp = 01:14:47.079
    | text      = So anyway, thank you.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:14:48.079
    | text      = You bet.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:14:49.079
    | text      = I appreciate that.
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{{TranscriptBlock
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    | timestamp = 01:14:50.439
    | text      = So the interesting thing here that we have to wrestle with is that Bill is right.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:14:59.760
    | text      = Like he's a hundred percent right in this circumstance.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:15:02.199
    | text      = About everything.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:15:03.199
    | text      = No.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:15:04.199
    | text      = Always.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:15:05.199
    | text      = UFOs are real.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:15:06.199
    | text      = About Alex.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:15:07.199
    | text      = But he's also probably, I think he's probably worse than Alex in terms of being really extreme.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:15:13.800
    | text      = You know what I'm saying?
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:15:15.199
    | text      = Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:15:16.199
    | text      = The idea-
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:15:17.199
    | text      = The banality of evil.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:15:19.520
    | text      = The banality of Alex, there's an impotence to Alex.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:15:25.399
    | text      = There's a small cross section of his audience that will end up doing terrible things, but
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:15:29.880
    | text      = most of them will just get lulled into a learned helplessness and buy his products and stuff
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:15:34.880
    | text      = like that.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:15:35.880
    | text      = Right, right, right.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:15:36.880
    | text      = It's the nature of the scam.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:15:37.880
    | text      = Good for them.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:15:38.880
    | text      = I think that people who listen to Bill Cooper regularly are probably much more dangerous.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:15:41.920
    | text      = Oh yeah, for sure.
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{{TranscriptBlock
    | name      = Unknown Speaker
    | timestamp = 01:15:44.319
    | text      = Which is why they're so much more serious and focused and like when they're talking
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    | text      = about a subject they're directly talking about it and then when they're done talking about
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    | text      = it they're done.
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    | text      = You know, like how a fucking serial killer is goddamn organized and ready to get shit
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    | text      = done.
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    | text      = Alex Jones, Prince Humperdinck in The Princess Bride.
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    | text      = Bill is Christopher Guest, the torturer in The Princess Bride.
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    | text      = Christopher Guest doesn't give a fuck.
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    | text      = He's just going to do what he's going to do.
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    | text      = You're not going to try and relate this to Twilight?
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    | text      = We can't do that.
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    | text      = Apparently, I think I read in the group that everybody was out on-
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    | text      = It was 50-50.
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    | text      = Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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    | text      = I don't know.
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    | text      = You're right earlier I don't know how to put a button on this and there is no button.
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    | text      = This is just kind of an interesting snapshot that ideally we'll build on more as time goes
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    | text      = on.
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    | text      = Yeah.
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    | text      = But it's a snapshot worth looking at even without grander context because we now understand
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    | text      = a little bit better where Alex gets these ideas that he predicted 9-11 from, which is
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    | text      = worth it on its own.
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    | text      = And then beyond that we get to hear someone call Alex a fucking lying piece of shit, which
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    | text      = is always fun.
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    | text      = Man, this is third season we're introducing a new villain, Dan.
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    | text      = We're fucking nailing this.
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    | text      = Of course your first episode you're not going to get closure on it, Dan.
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    | text      = Nope.
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    | text      = This is a season long arc or not.
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    | text      = We could abandon it tomorrow.
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    | text      = So I don't know.
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    | text      = We'll learn more about Bill Cooper as time goes on.
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    | text      = I'll probably go ahead and read Behold a Pale Horse.
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    | text      = I know I've read parts of it in the past, but I'll go ahead and jump down that fucking
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    | text      = chimney and see what's inside.
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    | text      = Yeah, like somebody hijacking a plane stealing $500,000 and jumping off of it.
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    | text      = You're going to jump in.
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    | text      = Yeah.
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    | text      = Both feet.
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    | text      = Derek.
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    | text      = Yep.
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    | text      = Derek Bill Cooper.
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    | text      = So anyway, we'll be back on Wednesday.
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    | text      = Absolutely.
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    | text      = Wednesday.
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    | text      = We have a friend, Derek Bill Cooper, who has disappeared.
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    | text      = RIP.
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    | text      = We will not see him again.
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    | text      = Get well soon, David Knight.
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    | text      = So until then, we have a website, knowledgefight.com.
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    | text      = We do.
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    | text      = We have a Twitter at underscore knowledge underscore fight underscore Bill Cooper.
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    | text      = Get rid of a bunch of that and then you got it.
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    | text      = Okay.
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    | text      = We're also on Facebook.
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    | text      = Indeed.
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    | text      = We got a group called Go Home and Tell Your Mother You're Brilliant.
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    | text      = Correct.
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    | text      = Also, we're on iTunes.
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    | text      = We are on iTunes.
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    | text      = Check that out.
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    | text      = Have some fun over there.
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    | text      = Holy shit.
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    | text      = Do you know what's crazy?
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    | text      = What?
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    | text      = He technically didn't kill a guy.
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    | text      = Uh, well, just because he didn't technically kill that cop, I don't know if we can say
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    | text      = he didn't kill a guy.
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    | text      = That's true.
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    | text      = But in one specific instance, he really tried hard to kill a guy and wound up not doing
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    | text      = it.
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    | text      = Yeah, it does seem that way.
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    | text      = Whereas Alex, who technically probably didn't mean to kill a guy, wound up doing it.
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    | text      = Andy in Kansas.
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    | text      = You're on the air.
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    | text      = Thanks for holding.
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    | text      = Hello, Alex, I'm a first time caller, I'm a huge fan.
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    | text      = I love your work.
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    | text      = I love you.
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