Transcript/999: January 16, 2025
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Red alert. Red alert.
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I
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have great respect for- Knowledge- Fight.
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Knowledge-Fight.
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I'm sick of them posing as if they're the good guys-
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Saying-
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... we are the bad guys.
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Knowledge Fight.
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Dan and Jordan. Knowledge-
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Fight.Red Alert. Red Alert. Red Alert. (gagging) I need, I need money. (gagging)
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Red Alert. Red Alert. Red Alert. Andy in Kansas.
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Andy in K- Andy in- Stop it. Andy in Kan-
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Andy in Kansas. Andy. It's time to pray. Andy in Kansas, you're on the air. Thanks for holding us.
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Hello, Alex. I'm a first-time caller. I'm a huge fan. I love your work.
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Knowledge Fight.
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Knowledgefight.com.
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(gagging) I love you. Hey, everybody. Welcome back to Knowledge Fight. I'm Dan.
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I'm Jordan.
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We're a couple of dudes that sit around and
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worship at the altar of Celine and talk a little bit about Alex Jones.
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Oh, indeed we are, Dan.
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Jordan.
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Dan.
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Jor-dan.
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Quick question for you.
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'Sup?
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What's your bright spot tonight, buddy?
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Why don't you go first?
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Uh, my bright spot is tennis!
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Holy shit.
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Yeah. The Australian Open, second week of the Australian Open beginning.
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All right.
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Very exciting.
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Second week.
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Second week.
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How'd the first go?
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The first went, uh, rough for a lot of people.
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Rough-a.
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Rough-a. Um, yeah, rough for a lot of people. Two
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American teenagers, two American teenagers are in the second week of... That's crazy.
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That is.
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It is. It's legitimately crazy.
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Is one of them Alcaraz?
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Uh, no. Alcaraz is, uh, uh... He's Spanish.
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Oh.
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These, these kids aren't even supposed to... They're like way ahead of schedule.
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Okay.
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Yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah. People are... People have been talking about them.
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Wait, when we say teenagers, we mean like 18, 19?
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Yeah, 18-
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Okay.
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Well, I mean... Well, the end of te-... Yeah, the era of-
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It's not like a 13, 14 year old.
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No, no, no, no. We're not there yet.
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'Cause that would be wild.
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We're not there yet. Although Coco, uh, Coco Gauff was like 14 whenever she w-... She broke into the tour.
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Mm-hmm.
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Uh, she's incredible.
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Yeah, I'm... Uh, what... Like a... That wouldn't be unbelievable to me, but it would also be surprising.
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Right. It would be crazy.
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Yeah.
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Uh, but yeah, so these cats, uh, they're on the up-and-comers list, uh, who were...
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People are like, "Hey, three years from now, these kids in their early 20s, they fill
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out, they get some power behind them, they're gonna play well." This one kid,
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five-set match, beat Medvedev.
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Whoa.
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Five sets.
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Wait, the Prime Minister of Russia?
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Almost.
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(laughs)
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Uh, he'll, he'll be there someday, hopefully. Uh, the '80s are coming back, baby. Um,
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uh, yeah, yeah, yeah, but it was... It went to like
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4:00 in the morning there. So, I got to watch a lot of it in the United States. And
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it was crazy. It was crazy to see that happening, because Medvedev is the kind of guy who wins those matches-
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Right.
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... on account of he's the Octopus. Uh, he's just got long limbs.
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Sure. And when it goes on r- a really long time, you probably favor experience.
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Absolutely.
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You know, like someone who knows how to save a little bit in the tank for-
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Oh.
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... when you need it.
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And he's done it before too.
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Mm-hmm.
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Plenty of times. He's got that... And his, his style is like,
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"I'm just gonna get it back, buddy." So,
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a lot of those guys, they tire themselves out. They're trying to hit the ball
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through him, and he's the Octopus, so he's just long, he dangles, and the ball just
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lands in the goddamn court every time. Makes you angry.
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All right.
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This kid,
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18 years old.
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Wow.
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Beat him. Crazy.
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He beat the Octopus.
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Beat the Octopus.
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What, uh... What's his, uh, animal nickname? Does he have one?
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No, his name's Learner T-... He's too young. He's too young for a nickname yet.
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Hmm.
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They just call him Learner TN.
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The Learner.
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They've tried a lot of, like, headlines with-
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The School Band.
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Oh.
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School Boy.
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Learner Teaches, uh, Medvedev. Oh, it doesn't-
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It's gotta be. Yeah.
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It's not good.
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Okay.
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Not good.
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I see, I see him, uh,
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posing with a ruler.
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Yeah.
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Or making a ruler into a, uh, tennis racket-
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Oh, that would be fun.
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... for branding.
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I like that.
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The Learner.
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Nice little Esquire cover.
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You know what is very close to a tennis court? Chalkboard.
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Very close.
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I mean, in what, in what fa-... Just because there's...
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Aren't some of them green?
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I mean, it's not chocolate. Well, they are... Well, yes, they are green.
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Yeah.
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Fair. I mean-
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Not all, not all chalk, chalkboards are green, though.
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That's fair.
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That's enough. That-
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(laughs) I think of black when I think of chalkboard.
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Yeah, I guess that's true.
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But you're right. There are green chalkboards.
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There are fair... There are some of them.
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Yeah, there's tons of them.
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Mm-hmm.
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Especially in the '70s, whenever they thought green was a cool color.
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Sure.
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Yeah.
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And it still is. Green's still cool.
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Green's still a cool color. (laughs)
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That's... I'm insistent on that.
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Of the colors.
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Yeah.
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One of the cooler ones.
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It's up there.
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(laughs) How about you? What's your bright spot?
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So, I have two... I have two things.
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Yeah.
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First is checking in on the, uh, eating stuff.
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Yes.
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Um, I have, uh... Every now and again, I, uh, do a little bit of night eating.
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Sure.
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I know that, uh, your wife is also someone who engages in this kind of behavior.
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Staunch night eater.
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Yeah. And sometimes it's a little hazy. Sometimes I have
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s- vague memories of, uh, something that I got up in the middle of the night and ate.
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Right.
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And this is one of them.
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Uh-huh.
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It was something, a candy that someone sent.
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(laughs) Okay.
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Uh, it was in a bag of mixed stuff.
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(laughs) Okay.
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So, it was like a, a bunch of different gummy-ish type of things.
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Yeah.
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And this,
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I vaguely remember it was a circus peanut kind of thing.
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(laughs)
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But it was a banana. And I've never experienced circus peanut-
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Yeah.
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... but something not circus peanut.
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Right. Right, right. So, it was the consistency and the, the, like-
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I think so.
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Either that or I dreamed it.
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I've never... Yeah, you're right.
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(laughs)
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The circus penis tastes like circus penis.
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It's, it's a single thing. I've never, I've never seen
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stray from the, the form at all.
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Yeah. I've never seen, like, a, a fruity candy corn.
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Nope.
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That's not how it works.
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No. Candy corn is candy corn.
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It is... It is what it is.
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Mm-hmm.
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There is no other version of it.
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No. And this... That's why I was very surprised by this. Um, and so I give it high marks for that.
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Nice.
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Even though I don't like a certain peanut.
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Even if... Uh, also even if it might've been a dream.
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Mm-hmm.
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(laughs) Still high marks.
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If I came up with it, it's a great idea.
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(laughs)
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Um, so the second thing-
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Uh-huh.
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... is, uh, getting these buttons sent out.
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Yeah.
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Uh, and this has nothing to do with that at all.
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Okay.
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Uh, completely separate off to the side.
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Completely separate.
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Uh, I have, uh, uh, I've launched a, uh, uh, uh, GoFundMe
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for people if they want to chip in and donate, uh,
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to a good cause. Uh, we're raising money for the Transgender Law Center.
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Good.
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And the, uh, name of that, if people want to, uh, chip in, donate a little-
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Yeah.
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... uh, it is Naplovingceline'scallforjustice.
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Uh, that was the AI-generated name that, uh, GoFundMe came up with.
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Wow.
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Uh, because I guess I mentioned that Celine was taking a nap-
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(laughs) All right.
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... uh, in the body of the, uh, the write-up.
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Fair enough.
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So, Naplovingceline'scallforjustice if people wanna, wanna
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get in on, uh, some, some good charitability.
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How have we ever lived without AI? You know, where would, where would Naplovingceline come from?
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It really cut through the, the BS.
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Yeah, absolutely. Just get straight to the point.
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A sleepy cat-
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Straight to the point.
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... is calling for justice.
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Yep. Do- done and done.
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Yep.
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Boom.
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Um, so that's, uh, that's exciting, and I hope people, uh, chip in.
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We will.
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So, uh, today, Jordan, we have an episode to go over.
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Okay.
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And it's gonna be a little short.
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Sure.
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Probably a little bit on the short side.
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Mm-hmm.
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Um, this is Episode 999.
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It is.
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And so I f- maybe feel a little bit weird.
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I don't know. (laughs)
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I mean, yeah.
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The, the, the... We're not people who are really into milestones all that
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much, but I feel like it might be getting to me a little bit.
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The, the thousand?
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I feel like I might be having some-
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Thousand was the round number that gets to you.
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Okay.
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That's why we don't celebrate-
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Is it the-
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... milestones.
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'Cause I think it's a crazy fucking number.
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Let's... Why?
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Because it's a thousand.
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I... You know what? I was thinking this 'cause, uh, 'cause, uh, uh, uh, my wife's mom, uh, uh,
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fantastic woman, she, she texted like, "I can't believe you got to a thousand."
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And my response was, "People eat pasta a thousand times."
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In one sitting.
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Sometimes.
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They'll have those spaghettis.
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There's all those goddamn spaghettis, right?
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Yeah.
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So, like-
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No, I understand that.
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Yeah.
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Um, uh, but I think it would also be a little
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bit strange if you counted the number of times you had pasta and you got to 999. (laughs)
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It would. (laughs)
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I think you would start to have some, like, introspection and be like-
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Sure. "Do I eat too much pasta?" (laughs)
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Fucking pasta.
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Here we are. (laughs)
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Pasta, here we are.
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And if you knew that, like, other people
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v- almost never get to 1,000 pasta settings.
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Very true.
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Like, 1,000 podcast episodes is pretty fucking crazy.
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It is, it is pretty fucking crazy.
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Um-
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I will admit that.
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So I think that maybe I've been, uh, been a little bit in a state about that.
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Really?
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A tiny bit. Yeah.
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Hm.
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I, I just... I feel like I've, uh... You know.
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Like I said, like the pasta analogy is this t- this to me is as natural
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as any of the other things I do. Like, oh, this is just what I do.
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I know, I agree.
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Yeah.
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I, I agree that it... But it... I have that push and pull.
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Hm.
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It's just what we do, it's just another episode.
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Sure.
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But at the same time, you know?
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I get ya.
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Feels, uh, feels like wha- how do you make it count? How do you make it count?
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I don't... I mean, you know, I'm coming up on 30 days with Sunny, and honestly, that feels like a milestone, so
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I don't know. I don't know what to tell you.
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Sure.
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Huh?
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And then you add into the mix, like, it's happening
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right at the same time as, like, Trump is taking office again.
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Yeah, literally the exact same time.
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And eight years of us doing this show.
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Yep.
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Our anniversary was, like, a week ago.
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Yep.
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And, like, it's th- tho- all of that's happening sort of in the same ball.
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Mm-hmm.
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I- it just... I don't know. It's a, it's a, it's a lot to take in.
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There's a lot of how things change, how things save the same, stay the same, very hard.
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Right. Yeah.
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Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
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The c- the conflict and tension between the idea of being in reruns-
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Sure.
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... and seeing Alex and being like, "This is kind of re-run-ish."
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Sure.
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We're... Are we re-running? Are we... Is 1,001 gonna be (laughs) like, one?
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The beginning of num- (laughs)
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Right, like-
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Let's start, start from the top, everybody.
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It's tough. It's tough to, to, to see, like, well, we have the, we have the power to not.
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Yeah.
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Uh, sort of.
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Sure.
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Um, and so what do we do? How do we maximize that?
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I think eventually-
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So I'm thinking about these things.
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... I think eventually we're gonna go, we're gonna have to go back to the past.
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Mm-hmm.
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Because it is only by going back to the past that we can truly understand the present.
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That's true.
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And so I, I don't... I think we're gonna have to do
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2020 again. I think that's the... We'll do every episode that we did from 2020, and that'll teach us.
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Maybe 2010.
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Yeah, that makes way more sense.
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Yeah, I actually support that.
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(laughs)
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Maybe I'll, maybe I will, uh, explore some of the past again. Uh-
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I think it's a good idea.
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We'll see what happens.
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Yeah.
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But for now, we're gonna talk about the 13th-
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Okay.
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... of January, 2025.
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All right. 2025.
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And then skip over to the 16th, 'cause I've lost interest entirely.
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'Cause fuck it. Yeah, yeah, (laughs) okay.
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Uh, but first, let's take a little moment to say hello to some new Wonks.
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Ooh, that's a great idea.
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So first, Gwen and Tessa Eponsoynagimofosense2024, thank you so much. You are now a Policywonk.
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I'm a Policywonk.
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Thank you very much. Part of that was that they were en- going to enjoy you trying to pronounce it, so...
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I think I probably nailed it.
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I think you crushed it.
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Uh, next, Anthony, "For Christmas, Dan and Jordan are
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saying your names aloud. Don't be a loser little titty baby." Thank you so much. You are now a Policywonk.
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I'm a Policywonk.
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Thank you very much and merry Christmas.
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Merry Christmas.
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Merry Christmas.
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Uh, next, "I just got back from mailing
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a deep pan of brownies, but now I can't find my bucket of poop." Thank you so much. You are now a Policywonk.
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I'm a Policywonk.
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Thank you very much.
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Merry Christmas.
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Merry Christmas.
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And we got a Technocrat in the mix, Jordan, so thank you so much.
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Ooh.
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To, "We had to put Lilith down the day Alex announced bankruptcy. She listened to more
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Knowledge Fight than any cat, uh, I know,
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so we still worship at her altar." Thank you so much. You are now a Technocrat.
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I'm a Policywonk.
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Four stars. Go home to your mother and tell her you're brilliant.
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Someone, someone sodomite sent me a bucket of poop.
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Daddy Sharp. Bum, bum, bum, bum, bum. Jar Jar Binks has a Caribbean
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Black accent. He's a loser, little, little titty baby.
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I don't wanna hate Black people. I renounce Jesus Christ.
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RIP Lilith.
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Yeah, our animal friends deserve a Technocrat's thoughts.
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Yes, for sure.
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Yeah.
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Um, so we start here on the 13th.
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Yes.
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And, uh, I just was like, "Fuuuck you."
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(laughs)
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Organization for Economic and Co-operative Development, that's the Marshall Plan.
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That's the real global government.
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That set up the UN
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at the same time after World War II.
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That's the Rockefeller-Rothschild Combine, literally funded its founding. Look it up.
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The funding, the buildings, the infrastructure, everything.
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And then start getting governments to sign over sovereignty to it.
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Now, they already took over Europe 'cause they'd been blown away and didn't, you know, really have a choice.
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De Ga- de Gaulle staged his own little counter-coup,
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that's why he is a French hero,
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and kicked
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NATO out and grabbed
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NATO's nuclear weapons. That's a footnote in history books. Ki- you should think is kind of a big deal.
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He got troops together and went into the nuke base at the airport and
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grabbed the nukes. Said, "I have the nuclear weapons. I'm in command."
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I'm sorry? (laughs)
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Free France.
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(laughs)
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Was that the Rock?
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France still is in the EU today, it was brought back into it.
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Sure.
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But it wasn't even called the EU when de Gaulle
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did that. He said, "I'm not under the OECD. Look it up." And then they tried to kill him a bunch of times.
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Sure.
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The Jackal and all that.
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So he's a Trumpian figure there, General de Gaulle.
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And
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so, so, so, see, people ask how I know all this. It's fascinating. Why would you
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not want to study all this and know how things actually work?
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Yeah.
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See how things actually work.
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I'm not, I'm not a professional historian.
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Yeah.
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Especially not th- one of the masters of French history.
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Mm-hmm.
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Which I assume is far more complicated, but what I understand-
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Especially now that the language is dying.
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Absolutely. My understanding (laughs) was always that de Gaulle, World War II hero,
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horrible tyrant. Like, those two things, like, it started good, went, didn't go good.
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Um, Trumpian figure in, in part of that-
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Yeah, yeah.
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... uh, you could say.
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I would say yeah.
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I think Alex's versi- uh, uh, also as not a, uh, super historian myself-
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Yeah.
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... I, I can tell you that Alex's version of what happened with nuclear weapons in France is a little bit off.
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That feels very Sean Connery in The Rock.
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Char- uh, Charles de Gaulle is, uh, you know, very, uh, noted for his, uh,
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not going along with NATO's wishes for France not to develop nuclear weapons.
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Right.
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But he didn't storm an airport hangar and steal nuclear weapons to free the, uh, the French people.
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And then he said, "I'm the captain now," to Tom Hanks.
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Now, the bigger problem is The Jackal-
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That is an issue.
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... is a fake character in a movie.
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I was, I was, I was concerned. I was concerned
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that for a moment, I was willing to gaslight myself into
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everything I've ever known being wrong and maybe The Jackal was real.
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Nope.
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Okay, good.
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So, The Jackal is a 1973 movie-
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Right. (laughs)
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... uh, that is about attempted assassination on Charles de Gaulle.
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Sure.
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So Alex is definitely talking about that movie.
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It is a very specific thing.
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But it is a fake character.
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Right.
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It is fiction.
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Sure.
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But this is where it gets all kinds of messy.
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Mm-hmm.
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Because it's historical fiction.
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Sure.
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Charles de Gaulle is a character in it.
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Right.
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The jumping off point is about a real-world failed assassination, uh, attempt on de Gaulle.
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Sure.
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But then The Jackal and the character and the whole plot of the thing is fake. It's all fe- it's...
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Right.
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Alex's brain is not designed to handle historical fiction. It's too fucked up for him.
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Okay. Is it possible, all right, that
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The Jackal, despite being made post-Charles de Gaulle's attempted assassination, right,
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was somehow still predictive programming
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to time travelers?
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Yeah, probably.
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Okay.
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Yeah, if, if I had to bet on something, I would-
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A 12 monkey scenario. I feel like that's what we're doing here.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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So, um, I think, uh, when you're citing The Jackal, uh, I, I, g- I've, I have-
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Citing. (laughs)
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I have no time. Like, he's citing The Jackal-
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(laughs) Yeah.
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... and then being like, "Isn't it interesting to know how things really work?" (laughs)
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Yeah.
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Like, in a fictional movie.
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Yeah, I can't imagine reading, uh, like, a, a
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recent history book that has a footnote that then sends you to the endnotes, which say just, like,
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"Day of the Jackal," comma, i-
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Mm-hmm.
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Obviously it's AP style. '73. You know, it does the whole thing.
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I would not, I would not trust that any further.
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No, no.
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No.
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It's a, it's an indication of poor quality.
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Microsoft Encarta.
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Well, I think that, you know, if you're, if you're, um, you know, writing a paper on ideas-
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Sure.
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... and stuff like that, you could cite The Matrix.
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Sure.
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Because y- there's i- ideas explored within it.
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There-
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... uh, notation-
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Sure.
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... outside of like, "Oh, it, uh, changed things in cinema."
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Right.
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If you're doing any historical shit about the, uh, like these
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fictional movies,
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you're, you're off base.
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Right. So like if you were, if you were to write a paper that had like, "At one point,
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no one knows when the AI officially took over and what year it is-"
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Mm-hmm.
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... and then you cited The Matrix-
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You'd be in trouble.
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... that could be an issue.
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You failed this, uh-
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Yeah, that would be an issue.
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... this paper.
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Yeah.
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Um, so Alex is talking a lot about, uh, the fires, uh, in LA.
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Sure.
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And, um,
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I realized as I was listening to it, there's nothing here.
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Yeah.
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Like all of it is just
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that level of, let's cite the jackal.
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Right, right, right, right.
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Or it's all just the exact same shit he said about Lahaina.
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Yeah.
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It's all just Maui fire conspiracy's over again.
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Yeah.
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It's not even worth discussing. It's, he's not even putting anything new into it.
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It's brutal.
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Yeah. And so I, uh, bid him adieu.
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Smart.
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Um, and we jump in, uh, back on the 16th.
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Okay.
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Uh, and Alex is,
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he's in a, he's in a mood. He's in a, he's in a concerned mood.
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Okay.
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Even though we know that the woke mind virus has been defeated.
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Yeah. I feel like we should be celebra-
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We should have celebrated a little bit more. There should have been a party at least.
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Sure. Or at least get back to catastrophic contagion or, um, the aliens or something.
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We had a mission accom- They, things were better back in the day. We had a full on mission accomplished manner
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only a few years into the 20-year war.
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That, that was the big energy that, uh, the woke mind virus defeated-
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Yeah. Exa-
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... kind of us.
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Well, that could be. We're all realists now. (laughs)
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Elon Musk sitting on a, uh, a, uh, uh, airport-
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Okay.
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... or air- aircraft-
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Right.
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... carrier.
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Yeah.
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Um, so Alex is concerned here on the 16th.
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Okay.
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The spectacular collapse of the globalist system and all their networks and their modes of control
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is
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moving so quickly. I would liken it to a
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singularity of awakening.
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Sure.
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A, a, a, a, a moment where it all comes out.
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(laughs)
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And I was trying, right before the show went live eight minutes ago,
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to broadcast,
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to try to quantify in my mind with all this data
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why I'm so
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concerned, deeply concerned, a level of concern
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I've never felt before.
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Cool.
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Real
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urgency, uh,
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a desperateness that the, the, the final
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sand is running out of the hourglass from the top unto the bottom.
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A- and then I was culturally, intellectually,
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mathematically, politically integrating that
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just during the last one-minute break,
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and it hit me,
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all of this evil coming out is very good.
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(laughs)
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But
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when the general public really finds out how bad things are-
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Mm-hmm.
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... and that the globalists have been deliberately
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killing people and poisoning people and all the rest of it-
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Sure.
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... it is going to cause
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a lot of mental problems. I mean, if you think we've got a lot of mental health issues now,
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people that
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have bought into the system when they find out they've been totally betrayed,
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and that there was a plan to fully collapse civilization
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that is ongoing, and that, and that even Elon Musk has said he's not sure can be reversed.
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So, when Alex is saying that like he's deeply concerned in a way that he's never felt before-
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Sure.
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... I think it's because
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there's no more road-
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Yeah.
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... in front of him.
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Yeah.
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They won.
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Like it, it-
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Yeah.
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It, they have, they have control of every aspect of the government. They control the Supreme Court.
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Yeah.
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Elon Musk owns Twitter.
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Yeah.
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Rogan and Tucker are majorly culturally influential people who are
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willing to associate with Alex.
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Sure.
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There is no excuse.
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No.
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The woke mind virus is dead. Uh, if you d- if you
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want me to ch- drain the swamp again, why? You, you control all of this.
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Yeah.
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There, there's a concern that he's having because
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after Monday,
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what's your excuse?
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Uh, yeah, that is a really good point.
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And things are gonna get bad.
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Sure, they should.
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(laughs) After Monday.
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Based upon, based upon everything we've ever known.
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Yeah.
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Uh, yeah.
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And the, the, the weak shit excuse of like, "Oh, the deep state holdovers are undermining Trump." Like, I
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don't know what's gonna get excited about that again.
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You just can't.
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It's, we've already done that. We've, we've, we've gone
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over this territory, and I think that Alex realizes on some level
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that like, "Fuck, I've really been skating by on
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getting people scared that maybe Jamie Raskin is gonna stop the certification on January 6th."
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Yeah.
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And then it doesn't happen.
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Uh-oh, we're marching forward towards inauguration
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and all of the crazy elaborate plots that the globalists had cooked up, none of it's happened.
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Yeah.
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Okay. All right. So here's the, here's the, so here's what we've got. We've got a Lord of the Rings situation.
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Mm-hmm.
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Right? So you defeat Sauron. Uh, good, great. Then you gotta go home to the
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Shire, right? But yeah, it sucks in the
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Shire because you can never go home again. Uh, you know, you can, and also
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Saruman's still there fucking everything up. Uh,
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so you can never go home again, you can never step in the same
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river twice. Now you have to diminish and go into the West. That's Galadriel's point.
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Mm-hmm.
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You have to diminish and go into the West. Alex has got to go, man.
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I, I do think that there's very little left for him to reasonably do.
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Um, and, and I think that what it amounts to is diminishing.
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Yeah.
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And it, it, it's, there's a recognition, I think, on some level that he's like, "I'm gonna have to
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do some bad shit. I'm gonna have to defend really bad shit-"
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Yeah.
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... uh, "or
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just spin my wheels here for four years."
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Okay. Now here's what I'm thinking. All right? So here, we rewrite Lord of the Rings, they defeat Sauron, but
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they decide that any monarchical leader, anybody who's singular with total power
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can no longer be trusted. They're all threatened. They're all possible Saurons, right? So the, the, the
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hobbits, they don't go back home to the
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Shire. They go to fucking Minas Tirith, right? And they're just
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gonna fuck with Aragorn for the rest of their lives until Aragorn goes down.
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Then they're headed to the woods, they're gonna take down Galadriel. They're, they're on a mission
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to take down every government. So I think Alex has gotta go full on, uh, (laughs) evil hobbit.
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Well, I think that
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if you ex- if you expand the metaphor a little bit, I think that is what he's doing.
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I think it's a, I think it's a very strange metaphor as it is.
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Yeah.
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(laughs)
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And I think that, uh, you also have, um, a situation that Alex, I think recognizes that he's in.
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Yeah.
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And that is a bad situation.
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Yeah.
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Like,
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it would have been shitty if Ron Paul had won
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and, uh, all the government was taken over by, uh, We Are Change people-
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Yeah.
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... uh, back in the time of the, the Tea Party.
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Yeah.
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Alex would not be a figure that anyone talked about anymore now, if that had happened.
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Right.
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Um, he's in that situation now. Like they, they have what amounts to control over
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everything.
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And I think he realizes that like, "Fuck,
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if Trump follows through with this idea to do mass deportation drives-"
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Yeah.
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"... and stuff like that, they're going to end up brutalizing tons of people."
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Yep.
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"They're going to end up, uh, sweeping up tons of citizens in these dragnets."
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"We put people in cages last time."
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They're going-
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"Children."
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"They're going to displace all sorts of people, uh, traumatize communities."
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Yep.
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"And Alex is gonna have to be gung-ho in support of all of this."
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"He's gotta love it."
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Yeah. And I think that he realizes like, "Ah,
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shit, this is gonna be bad. I'm gonna be the defender of a police state."
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(laughs)
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And then, I think he also recognizes that
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he chose wrong in, even within that box that he's put himself in-
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Yeah.
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... by being so defending of Elon Musk. 'Cause I think that he sees some writing on the wall.
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Yeah.
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That, like, uh,
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the whole, uh, sticking true to the hating globalists kind of thing-
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Sure.
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... isn't going to be well-served by cozying up to this billionaire.
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Sure.
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Whenever this fake populism that we have stirred up in people and tried to hide behind,
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whe- when that comes to a crescendo,
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that's, "I'm on the wrong side of this."
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(laughs)
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Yeah.
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He should be, he should be on the other side like Steve Bannon has been.
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Yeah.
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Steve Bannon's been pretty anti-Musk, and I think that that's, uh, the right posturing
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for the people in this, in this space. I think Alex is out of step.
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Yeah, the problem is, the correct thing to do in this situation is you've got one pivot
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and that's to go with real populism. To, to become a person who's
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(laughs) the complete opposite of everything that he's ever been, to have a heel turn in his world. And I,
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I don't think that's outside of the possibility. I think,
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listen, the American media can't wait to make Alex a hero for
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turning against Trump. They've done it like 50 times.
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I think they, I think they would fall for it.
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Yeah, absolutely.
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I think a, I think a fair amount of people would probably fall for it if you tried it.
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They couldn't wait to fall for it. Yeah.
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Yeah, in the same way that he can't w- wait to
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be like, "Oh, Bill Maher said something good, he's a patriot now."
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Totally, yeah.
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Or whatever.
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Yeah.
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The, the media would be like, "Oh, Alex has learned his lesson."
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They love that shit.
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He could do a Glenn Beck if he wanted to.
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Totally, and then he's still got time to do an
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un-Glenn Beck and he could even tell people he was gonna do an un-Glenn Beck.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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I, I don't know. I d- I don't think that his current positioning is worth it, and I think he realizes that-
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Yeah.
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... and I think he realizes how bad things are gonna get.
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Yeah.
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And...
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He's just, he's just in a spot where all he has to do is do the thing,
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right? He just has to change everything that's ou- that's about him,
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which is interesting is that, because it does feel like
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he's been funneled into a place where that's his only rational choice.
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Mm-hmm.
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His only rational choice is to abandon the past 30 years of his life, right?
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No.
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But you can't do that.
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Strongly disagree.
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Strongly disagree.
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I think continuing down the path that he appears to be going down now is that, is that turning on
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the perception of the last 30 years of his life.
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Okay, I, I apologize. In or- uh, in order to become a real populist he would have to stake out positions
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that he has been vocally against for the longest time.
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At least the last eight years.
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Yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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And I, I think that, uh,
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that would m- be way more interesting than hearing him complain about how, like,
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people are mad that he likes Elon Musk. I-
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(sighs)
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But hey, we'll see what ends up happening.
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Yep, yep.
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Um, so Alex's concern, part of it is this, uh,
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idea that once people see the light and see how bad everything is,
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they're gonna be, they're gonna go crazy.
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Sure.
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And there's gonna be some bad shit that ends up happening.
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Fair.
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And what are we gonna do with all the, like,
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fucking useless people?
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Oh, let's not do that. Let's not ask ourselves that question.
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Str-
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It's never a good question.
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Strange question here Alex wrestling with.
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Never a good question. (laughs)
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Myself, all of you, everybody needs to really get their game face on
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and get their head in the game.
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And we don't have time
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for playing around.
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A- and I do see a lot of seriousn- n- seriousness now, and not just here but around the world,
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by leaders and
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thinkers at every level. And, and so there is a, again, a hyper fast
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understanding taking place.
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And so,
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that's the good news is
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at least we are dislodging a lot of the really bad guys that set this up, and that
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have created so many of these crises and exacerbated
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others, and not let others that they didn't create go to waste.
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I just hope humanity understands that we are in an emergency. And, you know, I see people
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on the left and the so-called right attack me, and I talked about this last
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week, going, "Oh, Jones, you know, has had another
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emergency broadcast." I mean, have you looked around you?
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Is that us? I feel like that's us.
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77% of young people
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are too sick and fat and mentally ill to be able to even pass the basic
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military entrance exam that-
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(laughs)
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... is... I mean, people with 80 IQs can pass that.
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I mean, we're talking low-grade morons.
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Is that how that works?
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And
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what do you do with all these people
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that have been drinking, you know, red dye number three and
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aspartame and
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their mothers didn't breastfeed them so they
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were on formula that absolutely, you know, lowers your IQ massively?
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And so the globalist project to poison everybody
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goes on even if we stop it and, and cut out what they've been doing.
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We're already so damaged
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from the COVID shots and all of it that,
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yeah, we're winning this death battle and, and the bad guys are gonna get it,
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and we have a responsibility to be brutal
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and merciless, uh, in
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dislodging them and prosecuting them and imprisoning them so they can't keep doing it,
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and to scare their minions to not try to reorganize what they've done. But
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that's, that's the first stage of this.
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And we have to understand that if we're not hardcore...
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it's over.
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We're gonna blow the planet up.
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I've heard people say a lot less
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extreme things than that, and Alex has said that they're calling for extermination of-
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Yep.
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... the useless eaters-
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Yep.
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... and (laughs) what have you.
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Yep.
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This is fucked up. Like, I know, I, I, I
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know that if you wanna be overly generous you can look at this and say like,
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"He's not calling for killing off those 77% (laughs) of people-
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That, there's-
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... who can't pass military tests."
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Nope, wrong. Absolutely not.
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Um, but he is, he, he's saying, "What do we do with all of these stupid people
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that weren't breastfed and got vaccines
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and now are useless? If they're around, we're gonna blow ourselves up. The world's gonna end."
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And s-
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He's making preemptive kind of overtures towards-
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Yeah.
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... like, locking up idiot people.
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Yeah.
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People that he views as idiots (laughs) or l- people who believe left-leaning politics.
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Yeah, I remember being annoyed because I remember having so many, like,
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uh, uh, slippery slope, slippery slope,
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you do the thing, and I've realized that
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those are the same people who are not making
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slippery slope arguments, they're just lying about their true arguments.
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Mm-hmm.
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Right? Like, they, I, I've read a bunch of books by, uh, you know, like,
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uh, we're, (laughs) we're, we're philosophers
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but also we're psy- you know, all that stuff, and eventually they get to a certain point where they're like,
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"It's not eugenics," and you're like, "That's when you start talking about, 'You're eugenics!'"
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"It's not eugenics, but..."
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"You are, yeah, you're, you're doing the thing. Stop it. Stop acting like you're not doing the thing."
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"No, no, no, it's about breastfeeding."
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No! Absolutely not.
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(laughs)
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Nobody's, any time people are like, "Oh, what are we gonna do with all these use p- loose,
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useless people?" It is never, "Well, let's just give everybody an apprentice.
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We double the workforce immediately.
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Everybody has somebody that they just teach to do their job." That's it, done.
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That's definitely not the way that this vibes this is coming off.
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Never, never an idea.
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No.
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It's always like, "Well, we gotta get rid of them." No!
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Well, well, I'm- I- I think that one of the things that, uh,
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you know, obviously Alex made a lot of money on basing his career around is
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stuff like, uh, Yuval Noah Harari saying things like,
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"There are going to be a whole class of people that are gonna be unemployable in the future-"
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Sure.
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"... when we have automation and- and- and robotics and stuff."
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Sure, sure.
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And Alex has decried that as, uh, a mentality that is genocidal and exterminationist, and he's mirroring
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very similar thoughts.
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Yeah.
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Um,
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he should check in on that.
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No, it's, it's objective. It's objective to just rationally look at the resources that we have right
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now and conclude that we have to eugenics a bunch of people. Makes perfect sense. Yeah.
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I think, I think he should, um... I don't know. Um,
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I don't wanna say go back to booze, but-
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(laughs)
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(laughs) This is a bad look.
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He's- I think he's gotta go Scorpio from, uh, from The Simpsons. He's just gotta have an underground lair.
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Mm-hmm.
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Volcano style. Get some henchmen. Like, just do it up.
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I'd like an underground lair. That'd be great.
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I think we, uh, we all deserve an underground... Uh, what are we gonna do with all
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those useless people? Give them underground lairs.
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Start a public works program where we build underground lairs.
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Boo! Nope, can't do it.
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Okay.
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We gotta get rid of 'em.
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So, uh, on this episode, the 16th, Alex has a guest.
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Yeah.
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And
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it is not a very interesting interview at all.
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Sure.
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But the fact that it happened-
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Oh, no.
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... is
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really, really wild.
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Okay.
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Do you wanna try and guess who it is?
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I-
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It's not Kevin Sorbo.
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I mean, it feels... Uh, that one is probably my crowning achievement.
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Yeah.
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Uh,
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(sighs) is it Roseanne again?
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No.
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No, 'cause we already know that. Um...
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I'll tell you it's not an American.
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It's not an American. Okay.
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Mm-hmm.
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Uh, Archbishop Desmond Tutu. Is he dead?
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I think he's dead.
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Shit.
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And Alex would not have a good interview with him.
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Well, that's why it would be very surprising.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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I would be shocked to see that interview.
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That would be very surprising, yeah.
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Um, no, it is
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Calin Georgescu, who-
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Never heard of that person.
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You have, uh, at very least in passing.
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Right.
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He is the ultranationalist candidate for the presidency of Romania-
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You're right.
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... who, uh, they threw out the first round of-
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Right.
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... elections when he won.
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Right, I do remember that now. I had something to say about excuse being that... Yes.
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Yes.
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Yep, yep, yep.
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Uh, so he's on.
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Great.
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Alex landed an interview with the guy who, uh, was leading in the polls
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(laughs) for the presidency of Romania.
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Right. Right, right, right. So he's got a Romanian Nazi on.
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Um, (sighs) sort of.
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(laughs)
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Alex gives a long introduction-
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Okay.
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... to him.
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All right.
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So I'm gonna try to go to our very special guest
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and give him the floor here to speak. He speaks great English, but-
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Great start.
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Understand, ladies and gentlemen,
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that he... 17 years working within the United Nations serving as the OHCHR Special
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Repertoire on the Adverse Effects of Transportation of Toxic and Hazardous Products
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on Human Rights, Product Director of the
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UNDP/UNEP, Representative for Romania's National Council, Executive Director
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of the UN Institute for the Global Sustainability Index. That's the model of the whole global
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ESG system. I mean, this guy's at the top.
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He served as president of the European Research Council for the Club of Rome.
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I mean, that's the top.
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Great.
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2013 to 2015. And was a member of the International
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Club of Rome in Switzerland. I'm gonna stop there, uh, 'cause we've only got 45 minutes, 50 minutes
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left with him. You gotta go. After he leaves,
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I will read the bio upfront when we're still live next hour, and I'll tag the front of this-
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That'll eat some time.
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... when we upload it to X. This needs to get 100 million views. So, Calin Georgescu just had
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his victory stolen from him. He is the, uh, admitted president of Romania.
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They're not even denying they took it from him and the
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people of Romania, and they're saying it's the model for everywhere else.
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And since then, they've dissolved parliament in Canada, and Trudeau's not resigning. Uh, uh,
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and- and- and that's not even a major news issue, so, so,
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Calin, thank you so much for your time, sir. We really appreciate you.
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Uh, we can talk about what's happened with the election, the big demonstrations against it,
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all the things that are happening.
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Mm-hmm.
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Uh, but to me, go there first if you think it's best, but the time we have, and I'm just gonna, just
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don't stop 'cause I'm trying to give you the floor.
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Maybe we should go back to the beginning about who you are, what you did, top diplomat,
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d- directing one of the top, uh, u- you- systems for the UN,
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developing their entire scoring system for global government. I mean,
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you are a true insider,
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and then your whole process of
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being read into what it was really about, which you've
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exposed before, but I want you to recap for those that don't know. And then,
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going to your country, galvanizing the people, leading them back into freedom
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and- and- and helping bring the world from the verge of nuclear war, and then they
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stage a coup against you and your people
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and then admit it's a coup. This is unprecedented. So sir, that's a long introduction. Thank you so much.
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Thank you. Thank you so much. Thank you, Alex. Thank you for having me
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today. And I very much appreciate your, uh,
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introduction,
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which is amazing, uh, in the sense of the spirit of, uh,
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Romanian people because this is a most important point. Uh,
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great and, um,
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historical nation. Uh, speaking about, uh, Romania, I'm- I'm very proud that I am part of, uh,
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Romanian nation. I am very proud that I am Romanian. But nevertheless, that we have to take care about
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our humanity. I think this is the most important point, uh...
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So this is insane that this is happening.
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Yeah.
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Uh, that this interview is happening.
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Yeah.
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And it's also insane the way that Alex is presenting things. Um,
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this guy, uh, Georgescu does have, uh, this stuff in his resume.
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Sure.
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Like, he was, uh, like, uh, pretty high up in the Club of Rome and-
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Sure.
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... you know, was a diplomat and such.
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Did the stuff.
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Yeah. Look, that stuff's fair enough. But, like, um, it... he did not win the election.
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Wow.
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He won the first round of the election that went to a runoff, and then that was canceled.
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Sure.
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Uh, so they didn't take away the presidency from him as much as they disrupted that process, and there's a
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new election-
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Yeah.
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... that has been scheduled-
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Sure.
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... uh, I believe in May.
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Um-
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Just a redo.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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And part of the reason for this is he was polling very low. Um,
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and then there was a blitz of a ton of advertising on TikTok.
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Right.
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And a lot of it, uh, based on things that have been released by
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the Romanian intelligence, uh, agencies, there is strong belief that these things were paid,
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uh, promotional ads for his campaign that were undisclosed political advertising.
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Right.
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Which is illegal.
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Right.
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So, this is the big concern that led to him jumping from, like, 5% to 23% in the polls.
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Right.
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23% was enough to lead in the primary round, the first round.
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Yeah.
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The second-place person had, like, 19%, so there was gonna be a runoff between them.
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Um, and, uh, I think odds are if those numbers were,
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uh, continuous and legitimate, he had a decent chance at winning the second round, the runoff.
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Sure.
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Sure, sure, sure.
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Um,
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but,
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you- you- you have
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what is essentially a quagmire here, you know? Like, there isn't really a good thing to do.
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Right. I mean, I think, I think ultimately they are doing
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the good thing, though, is that if you do an illegal thing that gets you to the
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thing, you have to redo it. Like, we don't do that.
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Mm-hmm.
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We have a system wherein, like, the- the- b- b... you know, Roger Stone can go to jail in 2016 for
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all kinds of weird stuff al- affecting the election-
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Yeah.
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... but we'll just keep the results.
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Sure.
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You know?
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And we'll let the person who benefits pardon that guy.
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Yeah, yeah, yeah. That's totally fine. That makes sense.
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But, like-The, the issue that, that, why I'm describing this as a quagmire, while I agree with you-
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Sure.
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... I think you, I think that if there is illegality here, throwing out these results and doing a do-over-
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Right.
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... makes sense.
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But it is a quagmire.
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But, and the reason is because,
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realistically, throwing out that election is probably going to make him a higher profile candidate.
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Probably.
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And create the appearance of, like, everyone being so afraid of him.
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Sure.
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It's going to make it more likely that you redo the election and he gets even higher numbers-
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Right.
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... probably.
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Sure, it's possible.
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It feeds, it feeds into the, the ethos and story of characters like him-
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Sure.
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... uh, uh, uh, electorally.
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Absolutely.
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So if you're trying to stop him as a candidate, this is not what you would do.
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Mm-hmm.
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But that story is easy to tell for someone like him, and someone like Alex.
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Yeah. Yeah, but you know, I mean, at a certain point, you just gotta do what i- you gotta do it.
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Mm-hmm.
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It's illegal, so we gotta do it. You know? Like, unfortunately,
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well, fortunately for them, right, their system works on like an almost,
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like it's a fail-safe. Like, the law is a fail-safe, which is kinda what it should be. Like, if shit is so wrong
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that it's illegal, we gotta do it again, you know?
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Mm-hmm.
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It's just what has gotta be done.
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Yeah, and I don't wanna fully back this-
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Mm-hmm.
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... because I don't believe, from everything that I've seen, I know exactly what happened or
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what these paid advertisements were on TikTok.
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True.
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And I think that it is easy to overstate, um,
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some amount of, like, what evidence do you have that these were paid advertisements as illegal-
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Totally.
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... campaign stuff.
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Totally.
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So I wanna leave the window open there for a little
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bit of, like, A, there could be some, some shady shit going on. Um-
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There always is.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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But from what has been provided, uh, uh, to my awareness at this point, uh,
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if the, if that is the, uh, y- you know, illegal campaigning that's done, yeah.
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Yeah.
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Throw out those results, do it over.
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Um,
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I just think that
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the story that's being told is of a power structure and, like, the UN
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that cannot tolerate the idea of Georgescu getting in.
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Right.
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And-
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So they're doing a George S coup.
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Right, but th-
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(laughs)
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But they're not.
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No.
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What, the actions that they're taking
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aid him.
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They're very reasonable.
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B- but they also aid him from-
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Probably.
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... from a public image standpoint.
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Probably.
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Yeah, so-
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Yeah.
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... if you were them and you were gonna try and pull off a coup of some sort, this is not what you would do.
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No.
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This is, this is, this is, you wouldn't let him on the second
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ballot. You wouldn't let him on the re-do, uh, election, right?
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Sure.
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I mean, that would be what you'd...
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Or, if you were some sort, uh, or, like, if he,
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if this was information that you kinda deep-throated,
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you know, and you, then you would release it, deep throat from the, the thing.
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I got you.
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Uh, uh, uh,
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not...
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I get you.
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Yeah, yeah, yeah. Uh, uh, but then you could, like, release it as an October
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surprise kind of thing, and then you, you alter the race.
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Mm-hmm.
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Like, that would be more effective than being like, "Hey guys,
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sorry, the rules are..." You know? Nobody wants to replay the last point.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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And it's, it's, it's... I mean, overall, it's just like wow, okay, this guy does have
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a reasonable chance of, uh, winning this election-
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Sure.
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... when they re-do it, and here he is with Alex.
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Yeah.
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It's fucked up.
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You know what? Today-
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Fucked up.
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Today, Kudos, uh, uh, released another video, which, goddamn, they're great. Uh, they're very enjoyable.
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On YouTube.
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Yeah. Yeah, yeah. And I wish it weren't, I wish it weren't about us, 'cause it feels very navel-gazey
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just to enjoy it. Like, they're really well done.
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Yeah.
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But it's, it's about me, so I feel like an asshole. Uh-
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Well, it's, it's more about Marty Schechter's soap company.
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That's what I was... So that's what I'm saying, is like
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man, that's a guest.
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Mm-hmm.
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That's a guest right there. The, the three Limerick shot that he took.
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Mm-hmm.
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Brutal, brutal attack on Alex's psyche.
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But it's a guy who has a soap company. It's not the Romanian possible Prime Minister.
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Right.
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You know?
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In, in the in between state between the election results being thrown out and the re-do election.
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Yeah.
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He's i- like, at a time when
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this is the most impactful time that this person could be-
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Yep.
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... uh, (laughs) here, and he's choosing to come on Alex's show.
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Yep.
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Which is crazy.
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It is insane.
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'Cause bo- a lot of the time it is, I mean, it is still, like,
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inconsequential lunatics who end up showing up on Alex's show.
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Totally.
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This is someone who's, you know, fairly relevant, and possibly a world leader.
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Yeah.
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Fucked up.
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Which, which is, uh, which is interesting because it's so much like the, the
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means are the message, right? It doesn't matter if he, what he says on Alex Jones and InfoWars.
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Mm-hmm.
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What matters
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is he was there.
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Yeah, and it's not really all that interesting of an interview from
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somebody who was, like, high up in the Club of Rome-
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Sure.
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... talking to Alex. You'd think that, like, oh man, we're gonna get into the weeds.
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Yeah.
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This is gonna be really interesting.
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Totally.
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And instead, there's a lot of stuff about how this election is unfair-
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Yeah.
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... and obviously
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I get why he's saying that.
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Yeah.
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And then a lot of kind of vague platitudes about how, uh,
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inside the UN they don't care about peace, they care about war, 'cause it's profitable.
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Sure, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.
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And sure, I mean, I, I, uh, just from a 30,000-foot view,
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I get what you're saying.
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Sure.
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Um,
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but it's, yeah, it's not very interesting. It's just that it happened.
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Yeah, I just, I, if, if it's me
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doing the thing, if I'm gonna go on InfoWars and I'm this guy, I,
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I'm definitely not worried about credibility loss.
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Hmm.
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So I go on and I, I play ball with Alex.
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I'm talking about sex parties that never happened. I'm talking about people who are fucking
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crazy doing all this shit. I'm not saying names, 'cause I'm smarter than Alex Jones is.
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Uh, uh, you know, I'm doing all this stuff. I'm, I'm having a ball.
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Mm-hmm.
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I can't imagine trying to be a reasonable, like, "Well, I feel like
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my vision (laughs) for the country is better."
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Yeah, he, he, uh, just comes off as kind of like, you know, a politician I disagree with.
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Yeah.
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But, like, it's, I want, if you're talking to this guy who's an insider who has all this shit-
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Yeah.
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Let's get, let's, let's, let's do this.
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Totally.
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Instead, the level of preparation that Alex seems to be
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expressing is the, "You already won the presidency."
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Jesus.
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"I'm gonna superimpose all k- kind of Trump talking points onto you."
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Ugh. Right.
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And I, I just, I don't know, I don't find it... I, I, I think it's, it's shit.
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Yeah.
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Um, so Alex tries to play, uh, play big, big dog-
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Okay.
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... uh, with, uh, Georgescu.
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Okay. (laughs)
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But the situation with Europe is very, very
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difficult right now, because they invest a lot, a lot of money in this, uh, in this war.
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Uh, but in any case, the wave is coming, because you have seen the situation in Austria, you have
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seen the situation in Croatia, which also, uh,
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um, a leader, a real leader wanted-
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That's right, I forgot to add, they've been trying to block the election results in Austria for over a month.
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Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, (laughs) exactly. But in any case, important is that
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the wave is coming, and it's a noble effect of the sovereignty, not only in Europe, but in whole
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world. And of course, I, I, I really, uh, hope
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that the President Trump will act
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about this situation as soon
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as, uh, he will be confirmed
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in January 20. This is very important position which we are looking all of us for President Trump.
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Yes, sir, I'm sure you're already doing this, but I would advise you,
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uh, to, uh, we can get you in contact with his top people, but
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just go there when he's there. He will, he will meet you, and believe me, you need to, um,
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come meet with President Trump. Obviously that would be a very
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dangerous trip, 'cause they know that's the right move.
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Um, but, uh, Trump, I know, is aware of the situation, but if he meets with you and
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learns the details, uh, that, uh, the, the, that would be
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the move.
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Y- yeah. Look, uh, what I want to mention here
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is, um, that the legacy media
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notify permanently a wrong situation in, uh, in, uh, in Ukraine. In definitely in my opinion, Zelenskyy
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won...... the PR
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war,
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but Putin won the real war.
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Yeah, so he's, he's very, uh, much against, uh, supporting Ukraine.
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Sure.
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And that's one of the reasons why everyone likes him-
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Right, right, right, this is the-
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... and everyone like Alex likes him.
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This is the thing, gotcha.
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Um, but I, I think that there's two, uh, kind of implications inside this clip that are, are wild.
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Mm-hmm.
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One is that Alex is trying to connect Georgescu with, uh, Trump.
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Yep.
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Um,
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that seems like that connection might already be made.
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Uh, but Alex seems to think that he is a central spoke in this wheel, which is-
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Right.
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... fucking insane 'cause he was just citing The Jackal earlier.
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Ah. (exhales)
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Um, but then the second thing is that Alex seems to be
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presenting a position that Trump doesn't know about this.
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Yeah.
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And that seems weird. Alex should think that Trump already knows about this-
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Sure.
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... and is very concerned about, uh, major-
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Election results.
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Yes. (laughs)
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Obvi-... And it's pr-... He's taking a personal interest 'cause he's got his own election results.
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No, no, you got to just show up at Mar-a-Lago. He'll talk to you, it'll be totally cool. Once he knows
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about what you're going through, he'll totally, uh, get, get your back.
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(coughs)
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That's weird.
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It feels like it shouldn't be allowed
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for a person to sound this reasonable, as though he's, like, talking to a person.
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Mm-hmm.
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Like, what are you doing? This guy just recently cited The Jackal as a major issue for Charles de Gaulle.
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Mm-hmm.
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Right? Like, you shouldn't be like, "Oh, well, I prefer this candidate."
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Fucking dance. Do a li-, do a little, throw some salt in the air. Do something crazy.
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Yeah, it would be nice. I- instead they're having a, uh, normal conversation about how
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maybe Alex will get him into the inner circle-
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Why?
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... of Trump.
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That's fucking infuriating.
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It is.
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Ugh.
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It is.
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Ugh.
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So really just have one more clip, because their interview really isn't that interesting. Like I said-
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Right, it doesn't-
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... it's just that it happened.
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Yeah.
Unknown Speaker (00:51:08.018)
Um, but Alex is declaring him the president of Romania.
Unknown Speaker (00:51:11.099)
Well, okay.
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Uh, President Georgescu,
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you are the president. They admit you were the winner, and
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the fact that they're now bragging at the EU that they'll do it in Germany and cancel the AFD win
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if they win is extreme
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arrogance.
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And could you just speak to that? Uh, I mean, this is one of the most naked coups
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I've ever seen in the last 100 years, and I've studied history. This is flagrantly
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out in the open. Why, why do you think they're so arrogant?
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A- and as you said, your own media keeps acting like
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it's not a coup, but then the EU and NATO leaders are bragging.
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Yeah, because they are desperates. They make, uh, they are doing a lot of mistakes.
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So Alex has declared him the president of another country. This is weird. There's so much
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projection just of, like, what he feels about Trump.
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Yeah.
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He is now Romania's Trump.
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Yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
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Um,
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and I, I don't think that's good.
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No, it is, it is strange to,
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like, confront a, a real life, like,
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everything is associated with the God-King.
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Like, it is really strange-
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Mm-hmm.
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... because they're treating him not like, not even like a president or like
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the fucking queen. Uh, they're treating him like a pharaoh.
Unknown Speaker (00:52:27.759)
Right.
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Like a straight-up, like, he is God's representative on Earth
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because he is also part god, and when he dies, he will return to godhood-
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Yeah.
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... alongside the other pantheon.
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And e- and until he revisits us, his son will fill in-
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Absolutely, yeah.
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... uh, for him, because he has a piece of it.
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Totally.
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Yeah.
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And then we'll just do the thing again
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when w-... I'm fine with building a pyramid if we just do it right fucking now,
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and we don't let him govern and shit.
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Mm-hmm.
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You know? Like, let's do that. Like, let's just bank a pyramid up.
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Well, I'm also fine with you being like, "He is our God-King," and, uh,
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all of this, because then we can respond accordingly.
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Sure.
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Like, I am totally fine if you want to have a Messianic religious connection with Trump
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and argue that he should be president based on that.
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Sure.
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If you're gonna be transparent and open about that-
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Sure.
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... then we can, you know-
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Right.
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... have a conversation about that openly.
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Right.
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As opposed to this kind of bullshit.
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Yeah.
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Uh, where you're trying to p- have it both ways.
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Yeah.
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Have it political and, uh, demons walk among us and attack Tucker in his sleep. Like, it's bullshit.
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Yeah. It is, it is a situation where it, it really exemplifies
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that, that concept of the meek shall inherit the earth.
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Mm-hmm.
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Kind of, the thing, like, calling people the meek, you know, is, is to a certain extent saying
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the massive amount of people that there are,
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in a vacuum, if you were like, "Oh, if you cheat on an election,
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should you still win?" They would be like, "No." And e- even if it's your guy, and they'd be like,
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"No, cheating is wrong. We all know this." It gets complicated because there's, like, 50 other
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really powerful famous liars who are like, "They're cheating," and then you'll never know.
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Mm-hmm.
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You know? Like, it, it is the moment whenever
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everybody can just be like, "We all know cheating's bad. We all do."
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Mm-hmm.
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"So we just stop it," you know? It's crazy.
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Yeah.
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It's crazy.
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Yeah. And, and you know, I think that, um,
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you know, the tension that you have a lot of times
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when it comes to an election year is that you have to support, uh, one side because the other side is Trump.
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Sure.
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You know? Like-
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Sure.
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... y- there is not room for a little bit of, uh, nuance-
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Sure.
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... uh, uh, in, in that.
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Um, and Alex gets himself into that kind of position where he is, the enemy is the devil.
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Yeah.
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And so Trump has to be, uh, like, acceptable no matter what. Like, he said that-
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What isn't preferable to the devil?
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Right.
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Right.
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He said that the po-... Like, t- the police should have a one rough day.
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Right.
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(laughs) You know? Like-
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No, if the stakes-
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Trump has said that stuff. Alex can't possibly rationalize that. But
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the alternative is the devil.
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Yeah, I mean,
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the, the justification of your immortal soul-
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Hmm.
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... has really been used for a lot of bad things.
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Yeah.
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Because what's more important? Your immortal soul. That's the most important. It's forever.
Unknown Speaker (00:55:21.938)
You know? So it justifies doing anything to your mortal body as long as the immortal soul is saved.
Unknown Speaker (00:55:28.039)
Yup.
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Yeah, and we're hosed because people really like to fuck with your mortal body.
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Yeah, but they've connected, uh, your soul to Trump somehow and-
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Jesus Christ.
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... fucking hell.
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Fuck me.
Unknown Speaker (00:55:37.798)
So, we, um, we'll be back. But like, uh,
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I don't know, there's a lot to, a lot o- a lot of roiling thoughts, you know?
Unknown Speaker (00:55:44.338)
Let's just do 1001.
Unknown Speaker (00:55:45.599)
Sure. (laughs)
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Let's just skip it. Let's just fucking skip it and we'll, we'll put out a little
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note saying, "This was where 1000 would go."
Unknown Speaker (00:55:53.338)
Hmm.
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And then we'll do 1001.
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We'll come back to it later.
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(laughs) We'll get back to it, yeah, we'll be better tomorrow.
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Um, but yeah, I just think that, like, uh, uh, uh, you know, having, uh, all of this
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kind of percolating at the same time, you know?
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Yeah.
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Like, it's been eight years of this show, thousand episodes, Trump is r- coming back into office.
Unknown Speaker (00:56:11.778)
Alex is a dipshit clown and he is interviewing a guy who's conceivably going to be the president of Romania.
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And that guy is treating him as though he's not a dipshit clown.
Unknown Speaker (00:56:21.498)
Yeah.
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Yeah.
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Yeah, it's a lot to, lot to digest.
Unknown Speaker (00:56:25.259)
It's too much.
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Yeah.
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Too much for, uh, any one group of people to digest.
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So maybe we take, make, take a tiny little breaky.
Unknown Speaker (00:56:32.179)
That's true.
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And we'll see, we'll see you next time.
Unknown Speaker (00:56:33.838)
(laughs) Yeah, absolutely.
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Uh, but, uh, until then, we have a website.
Unknown Speaker (00:56:36.639)
Indeed we do, it's knowledgefight.com.
Unknown Speaker (00:56:38.079)
Yep. Uh, we'll be back. But until then, I'm Neo, I'm Leo, I'm DCX Clark. I am the mysterious professor.
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Woo, yeah, woo, yeah, woo.
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And now, here comes the, the sex robots.
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Andy in Kansas, you're on the air, thanks for holding.
Unknown Speaker (00:56:51.478)
Hello, Alex, I'm a first-time caller. I'm a huge fan. I love your work.
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I love you.
