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Hello, Alex. I'm a first-time caller. I'm a huge fan. I love your work.

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Hey, everybody. Welcome back to Knowledge Fight. I'm Dan.

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I'm Jordan.

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We're a couple of dudes like to sit around and worship at the

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altar of Selene and talk a little bit about Alex Jones.

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Oh, indeed we are, Dan.

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Jordan.

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Dan.

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Jor-dan.

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Quick question for you.

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'Sup?

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What's your bright spot today, buddy?

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Ah, ah.

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Okay.

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I was gonna say the Challenge finale, but I realize that you probably haven't seen it yet.

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Oh, we haven't seen it yet.

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Yeah, yeah. It's been a-

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Ah.

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I watched it this morning.

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Yeah.

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So I, I, uh, why don't you go first? I'll try and come up with something else.

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All right. All right. All right. Uh, uh, I mean, y- yeah. No, we've, uh, it's kind of,

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we're pretty excited to watch it later on tonight. My wife is

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working out late so-

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Sure.

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... we won't get to-

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It's fun.

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Uh.

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I'll give you that.

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My, my, my, uh, uh, bright spot is, uh, this is the

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twice a year that, uh, Games Done Quick does their charity thing.

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Mm-hmm.

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They're doing awesome Games Done Quick for, uh, the, the PREVENT Cancer Foundation.

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Good for them. Uh, it's a lot of fun. You know, there's a guy who played, uh, Super Mario with the piano.

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Oh.

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How fun is that? You can't get that other places.

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You can play, uh, Donkey Kong with the bongos.

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Hell yeah, you can. There's at least three music acts in this, uh,

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year's, uh, GDQ as far as I understand it. So who knows?

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Nice.

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Who knows what you can play with what?

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Play Zelda with the triangle, right?

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(laughs)

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'Cause it's the Triforce.

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'Cause it's the Triforce. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

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Yeah, yeah, yeah.

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What have you... That. There needs to be a, a competition to see who could be more

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annoying with their instrument choice for a video game.

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Figured it out.

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Okay.

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Uh, some sort of a fighting game, but with a theremin.

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Okay.

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So you're like moving-

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Right, right, right. I see what you're saying.

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... making punches, but with a theremin.

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Yeah.

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Anything involving a theremin is kind of annoying.

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Uh, it's, it, yeah. That's definitely true.

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Hmm.

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That's definitely true. I don't know. I think there might be something a little bit

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more incongruously funny about, like, uh, uh, uh, alto sax being used to play Street Fighter.

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Sure.

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You know? That would just be a very strange choice.

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Uh-huh.

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Yeah.

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My bright spot now is that I just remembered that a friend of mine got a theremin- (laughs)

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(laughs)

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... when I was 18. (laughs)

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Tell me about this friend of yours. Why did they get a theremin?

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He was in a band and he was looking to expand his horizons and-

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Expand your horizons with a theremin.

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I think that, uh, the weed hit him a little differently than-

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Ah.

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... everybody else and, uh, that was his way of being creative.

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Yeah.

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Uh, but that was a fun little stretch of time. I don't think he ever learned how or got

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good at it, but there were some weird noises coming from the other side of the house.

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Is there a th- is there a good... I, I, you know what? I don't know if there is a getting good at the theremin.

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I have faith that someone has done it well.

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Okay. All right.

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So Jordan, today we've got an episode to go over.

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All right.

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We're gonna be talking about a special report from the Sunday, uh, the 5th.

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Okay.

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Alex's show from the, the 5th.

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The 5th.

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This is something that he said was incredibly important.

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Okay.

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And so I will treat it as such.

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Absolutely.

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Uh, I'm excited to tell you about all the very important news.

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Good.

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Uh, but first, let's take a little moment to say hello, uh, to some, uh, new wonks.

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Ooh, that's a great idea.

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So first, Hannah. "I'm sorry I like podcasts with loud men that shout a lot." It's definitely

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Jordan. "You've got the sexiest brain. Love, Joram." Thank you so much. You're now a Policy Wonk.

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I'm a Policy Wonk.

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Thank you very much.

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Thank you. Next, "I sit on the floor or in the

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shower listening to podcasts like some kind of depressed person, and

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Quill, you can't stop me." Thank you so much. You're now a Policy Wonk.

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I'm a Policy Wonk.

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Thank you very much.

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Uh, next, uh, red575 thinks people need to

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talk about their feelings more. "I could die happy?" Thank you so much. You're now a Policy Wonk.

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I'm a Policy Wonk.

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Thank you very much.

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Thank you. And we got a technocrat in the mix, Jordan.

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Ooh.

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So thank you so much to... Virginia is sorry she hasn't mailed you the Hillary for Prison shirt, uh, T-shirt

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yet. Thank you so much. You're now a technocrat.

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I'm a Policy Wonk.

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Before you start, go home to your mother and tell her you're brilliant.

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Someone, someone sodomite sent me a bucket of poop.

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Daddy Sharp. Bum bum, bum bum bum. Jar Jar Binks has a Caribbean black accent. He's a loser,

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little, little titty baby. I don't want to hate black people. I renounce Jesus Christ.

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Thank you so much.

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Yes, thank you very much.

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So I was a little bit worried that we were gonna be in a period of time where Alex was

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really deeply invested in, uh, carrying water for Elon.

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Sure.

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Because there's some Musk drama-

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Uh-huh.

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... uh, and stuff, and I, I-

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Still going on.

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Well yeah, and I think it's going to continue to go on.

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Mm-hmm.

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Like I think the harder right side of this coalition-

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Mm-hmm.

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... has turned against him-

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Yeah.

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... and the influence that he has over their god king.

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Sure.

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And this is going to be a frustrating little bit of tension-

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Yeah.

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... uh, forever now for them.

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Yeah, it can't not. Yeah.

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I don't, I don't know how often or for how long it'll become, like, public fights-

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Mm-hmm.

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... and, and a real, like, crisis, but it's gonna, it, it's not gonna go away. They have fundamental

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differences of, of worldview.

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Sure. Sure, sure, sure.

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Um, so I was really worried that we were gonna get stuck in that rut.

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Mm-hmm.

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And, uh, thankfully, uh, we're not. Uh, but Alex does do a little bit of defending of Elon Musk on the show.

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Ah.

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I just wanted to touch on it.

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What you gonna do?

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Um, but we actually, we, we get into

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very serious, uh-

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Very serious.

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... uh, right off the bat. Alex starts the show

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and he thinks that he can go to commercial break.

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At the beginning?

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Yeah.

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Okay.

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B- but he can't.

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Uh-oh.

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We need a really, really good team to be able to handle this.

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Real quick. He was playing a clip of Peter Hotez talking about how

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once Trump gets into office, the health, uh, problems that

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exist now and have always existed will continue to exist.

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That's how they work.

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So we need a good team in place.

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That makes sense.

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He's playing that and he thinks he can just throw to commercial.

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Okay.

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All right.

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We're gonna join hundreds of stations after this one-minute break.

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We're very thankful for...

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Oh, we skipped the break this hour. That's right. So I'm going to, uh,

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go ahead and start getting into it now. All right. Let's just start here. Overhead shot, please.

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This is Event 201, Johns Hopkins Center for Health Security, the exact

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same organization and group sponsored by the Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation, the UN, the CIA,

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the Rockefeller Foundation, and you go look at Event 201 at the centerforhealthsecurity.org,

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run by the UN and Bill Gates and you can read how it's funded by the CIA

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and by the Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation, all the groups I just listed.

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And in this document, it talks about the meeting, October 18th, this went for three days, 2019,

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and they produced all these

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newscasts and drills that I'll show you in, or in a moment

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where it basically mirrored exactly what happened with COVID, respiratory, out of Asia, all of it,

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and it was all, we later learned they had COVID on the shelf years before,

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it was manmade, all of it. They had the so-called vaccine already ready, already patented.

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That is

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Event 201. That's the, the, the battle plan

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for the rollout, but you don't give everybody months before a battle plan

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of what you're gonna do and say we're doing it. People say, "Well,

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then you're the one behind it." You say, "Oh, it's just a drill that just so

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happens to perfectly match what's happening."

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Perfectly matches.

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So Event 201 wasn't a three-day event. It was a one-day, three-and-a-half-hour

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tabletop scenario exercise. We've talked about this many

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times in the past, so I don't want to get too

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lost in the weeds, but it's important to understand that Alex doesn't know anything about Event 201

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past the name of it and vague stories that he remembers telling about it in the past.

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Event 201 involved a fictitious disease that was, quote,

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"Modeled largely on SARS," which is why it bears some similarities

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to SARS-CoV-2. Alex is entirely wrong about the

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details here, though, as the exercise didn't mirror what happened with COVID.

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For instance, in the Event 201 exercise, the virus emerges from zoonotic

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in- infection from a pig in Brazil, not from China.

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Also, the virus killed 65 million people in the first 18 months of the scenario pandemic, which is

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way higher than the World Health Organization's real world number

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of just over seven million deaths in the entire span of COVID up to present day.

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Further, a vaccine is considered impossible in the purposes of, uh, Event

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201, so it's a very minor issue in the scenario exercise. Given that Alex thinks that the globalists' whole

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plan was to inject everyone with a bioweapon that destroys their immune

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system and all that other stuff that he's totally

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proved, you would think that that would be a major factor in Event 201, but it's really... It's more

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about corporate government cooperation in response to a potential outbreak.

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Mm-hmm.

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So th- i- it doesn't mirror the real world at all.

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Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

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Alex's stories kind of mirror his stories, because they're the same thing.

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Yeah.

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Alex can't be trusted to understand the basic

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facts about stories like this, let alone some kind of grand conspiracy they reveal, but

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it's clear he wants to talk pandemic stuff.

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Right.

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So that's the tip that we're on.

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Gotcha.

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Um...

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Yeah, yeah. You know, it is... That is a good thing to bring up, because

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this is something that's going to exist for all of us in, like, 20 years, 30 years, something like that.

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Whenever we're past all of the idiots like Alex and the, the far-right wing who are doing the COVID

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denialism stuff, people will look back and remember

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we, as a species, created a disease-killing vaccine in, like,

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record speed.

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Mm-hmm.

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Like, crazy fast. In a b- in a speed that we could never have even dreamt possible

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just 20 years ago, you know? Like, there is-

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Yeah.

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There was definitely a world-shattering achievement that occurred

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that nobody can really handle right now, because there's too many insane people around.

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Yeah, and I think that's the other part that history is going to have a really difficult time-

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Yeah, yeah, yeah.

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... like, encapsulating, is that, like-

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(laughs)

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... we as a species created this-

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Right. (laughs)

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... and also-

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Right, right, right, right.

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A sig- a not insignificant amount of the population, uh, thought it was the devil. (laughs)

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Yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

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And so... (laughs)

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There is, uh, there are two wolves in all of us, if you will.

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Yeah, yeah, that's true.

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Yeah, yeah.

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So there was Event 201, but that wasn't the only scenario exercise-

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Okay.

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... that the globalists pulled to try and get COVID or something.

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Sure. And two years before this, this was just months before they rolled it out in 2000,

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in, in, what, 2018,

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they, they did

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the, the, the SPARS 2025-2028 based on that year's.

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SPARS.

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And those years were really 2020

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to 2023 and to '4. And it was even the same tweets they put out. It's just

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the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the

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name of that virus they had, fictitious virus, that was also a corona respiratory virus

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changed to

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COVID-19.

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And, and people go read the hundreds of pages in the synopsis of the, uh,

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SPARS 2025-2028 drill fund about the same group.

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And

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General Flynn saw that, did a two-hour presentation on it, and, and it got tens of millions of views.

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Um, shot that, what, three and a half years ago.

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That was a taped show. And people see it and go, "Oh, my God, we didn't know it's word-for-word." Yeah.

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You don't go around with a battle plan to launch a bioattack and say, "Here's our bioattack plan."

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It's a war game.

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So again, this is something we've covered extensively in the past, but as a short refresher, SPARS

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2025-2028 refers to a scenario exercise that was also carried out by Johns Hopkins.

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Alex is pretty much wrong about everything regarding this exercise,

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but I'm glad that he and Flynn were able to get a lot of views. That's something to be proud of.

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Yep.

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The SPARS scenario was meant specifically to explore

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messaging within a public health crisis, so it was a series of communication challenges

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that were supposed to help participants understand the pitfalls that they should try to avoid

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in stressful situations, like a public health crisis. The team created a world characterized by highly

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fragmented information communities

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and highly available information technology, which they titled, quote, "The Echo Chamber."

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It was meant to maximize the idea that people were more connected than ever, but also

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more divided than ever, and how do you... How do you deal with getting important information out to people-

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Sure.

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... in that, in that situation?

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Sure.

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The scenario did not closely mirror what happened in the real world during COVID.

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For instance, the virus in the scenario was called SPARS, or

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St. Paul Acute Respiratory Syndrome, because the first cases were identified in St. Paul

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from people who had recently traveled to the Philippines.

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Okay.

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Alex is pointing to tweets that were mocked up in the exercise and pretending that they just changed the

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name of the virus out to COVID, which is a dead giveaway of their master plan.

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The problem is that some of the tweets that he's talking about, uh,

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are m- are, like, made-up tweets from the CDC saying, quote,

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"Holiday travel plans? Stop SPARS by

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washing your hands and avoiding public places if you feel sick!" Another is, quote,

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"Practice good hygiene during your Thanksgiving

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travels. Bring home leftovers, not SPARS!" These are very generic tweets the exercise

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planners came up with to include in the scenario, and if a

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passing similarity between these tweets and things the CDC would eventually tweet means

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anything to you, you're grasping at straws, and that's pathetic.

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Yeah.

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These two scenario exercises prove literally

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nothing for Alex, but they're accepted as proof, uh, uh, of this grand conspiracy in InfoWars world.

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But this is all just laying groundwork, my man, because Alex and his crack

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team have uncovered something new.

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Mm.

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Something terrifying.

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Mm.

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Alex has

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very bad news for all of us.

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All right.

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We're all gonna die.

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Okay, so here's my pitch to the Hopkins' Universities and so forth. Uh, I

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don't think these are bad ideas-

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Hmm.

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... to have tabletop exercises.

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No, they sound fucking awesome.

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Yeah. Everything that, about the way they're doing it is wrong, though.

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Hmm.

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What we need to do, highly televised. This should be Monday Night Raw levels of, like,

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oh, these people who run these things, they're celebra-... We're cheering for them as they walk in.

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♪ Sorry, ah, ah, ah... ♪ Doing everything.

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But I, I think, here's the issue. I don't think it's for lack of trying that it's not. Like most of these-

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Uh.

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... their whole sessions are available on YouTube. You can watch their whole game.

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Wrong. Yes, I understand, but we need to make it a... We need a

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salesperson. We need a, we need a pitch person to, to really take this into the next level.

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Mm-hmm.

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But they're, they're not, they're not interested in pitch people.

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They're not interested in the, in the, the goddamn, uh, uh, uh, I'm losing all of it.

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I think they're, I-

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(laughs) OxiClean? What am I doing? I don't know what I'm doing.

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Billy Mays?

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Yeah. (laughs) They're not interested in Billy Mays telling you-

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Vince, uh, Vince Slap Chop Guy?

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(laughs) A Slap Chop would do it.

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Yeah.

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Slap Chop gets us to the, gets us to a better vaccine. That's the truth.

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I, I don't, I don't think that, uh,

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I'm gonna agree with you fully.

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Okay.

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But I am gonna say that I think that these things maybe should be more interesting to people who are not, like,

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bookish nerds.

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Yeah.

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Because if you see something like this and you don't really understand the full

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context of what scenario exercises are and-

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Yeah.

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... how they're used in a lot of corporate settings, um,

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uh, I think that it c- has the ability to look really, like, "Oh, what are they doing? This is weird."

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People, people-

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And the names are supposed to be fun for people who work in these dorky environments.

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Right, right.

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So you have things like Event 201-

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Right.

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... and, and all of a sudden, it becomes something scary when it's really just nerdy.

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Right. They d- I think there's a fundamental

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thing that people are, like, not understanding about the divide, which is, it's not

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like the smart people versus the dumb people. It is the people who are resentful of you

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for doing things and not making it clear to me.

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Mm-hmm.

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You know? Like, I get that you're talking

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smart at me, you know? And it's like, that's America. Eventually you're gonna run into the half of America

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that gets mad at you for talking smart at them, and here we are.

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Yeah. Yeah, and I think it r- it probably requires a Billy Mays on one side-

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That's what I'm saying, man!

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And then, the people who are mad about people talking smart-

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Marry the two of them together.

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But they also have to chill out a little bit.

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Everybody's gotta chill out a lot.

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That, well, that's not gonna happen if you bring in Billy Mays.

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Well, that's fair, but he'll do all the

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not-chill stuff for you. Everybody'll go, "Oh, we can chill out now, that guy's on overdrive."

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Okay, maybe.

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Nah.

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So, uh, I, t- like I said, they figured out something big.

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Yes.

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Something new.

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That's right.

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We're all gonna die.

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We're all gonna die again.

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Did you know that?

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For, f- uh, which... fr- from which to which death?

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Ooh, this one's the real one, I'll tell you that.

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(laughs)

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I don't know, uh, I don't know what, I don't know what time it is.

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Okay.

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But it, it's, it's real.

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Okay.

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So, I am sure of it, it, it mirrors what they did

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five years ago. It's the same document, the same operation, the same group.

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Then why do it?

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Just reprint it.

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I'm not even sure of it. It's a fact, i- they're doing it.

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That doesn't sound right.

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And

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again, you have to roll it out

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to your system and to your administrators and to the media

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executives a few weeks before you go live.

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When, what did, what did, what did Hotez say a month ago?

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When Trump, day one, has a new pandemic crashing down on him, and he throws out 11 things

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but doesn't tell you the thing that they put in their real battle plan

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a month and a half before in October:

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catastrophic

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contagion.

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Da, da, dun! There's another tabletop exercise, Catastrophic Contagion.

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(sighs) Okay.

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So, we know from experience that Alex Jones does a

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lotta preparation. He works and studies the

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globalists, like, 15 hours a day. Like, he lives and breathes this stuff.

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True.

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Like when he's on vacation, he's just tr- you know...

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At least four or five hours a day.

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At least.

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And that's vacation.

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Exactly.

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Yeah.

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So, when he says something like, "I'm

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sure this is the plan the globalists are rolling out," that carries weight-

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It does.

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... for real.

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It does.

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He and his amazing staff have uncovered another scenario exercise from

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Johns Hopkins, which is on their website.

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This one's called Catastrophic Contagion, and the timing is just too perfect.

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Mm-hmm.

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As Alex points out, it happened, uh, on October 23rd, and just after that, you see Peter Hotez go on

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TV and say that Trump is gonna have a public health crisis to deal with.

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He's talking about Catastrophic Contagion, the plan

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that's in effect because he just got the marching orders from that scenario exercise.

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Right. Jesus Christ (laughs) .

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So, there are two critical problems here.

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The first is that Peter Hotez wasn't one of the participants in the Catastrophic Contagion exercise.

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Well...

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Unfortunately, none of the people who were actually in it are established villains in

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Alex's comic book storyline, so he had to fudge that detail.

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Yeah, that's tough.

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Second problem is that this scenario exercise took place on October 23rd 2022, not 2024.

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Ooh. Ah.

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Alex doesn't even realize that he's already done this coverage, as you hear-

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No.

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... in this clip-

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Oh, my God.

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... from December 11th 2022.

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Jesus Christ.

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So, you're in the year 2022, epic things are happening, incredible things are unfolding, and Bill

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Gates says they're war-gaming a new virus

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(coughs) that is gonna kill the children.

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And if you study his previous operations, he's done this

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over and over again, but he's just the front man (coughs) . So, it's a big deal.

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Catastrophic Contagion, Bill Gates, John Hopkins, and the WHO conduct another pandemic simulation

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with deadlier virus that targets children.

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Alex didn't even check the year on this scenario exercise because he got excited about how, if it was from

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2024, it would match up really well with Hotez's TV interviews, and that could really scare the audience.

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That'd be really helpful.

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This is a critical point. The storyline is the primary

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piece of information here, and reality is bent to conform to the

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narrative. The story is that the globalists do these scenario

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exercises in order to war-game their battle plans, and then the

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minions like Hotez come out and make

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veiled threats in the media, which only Alex is smart enough to decode. Catastrophic Contagion, as a

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scenario exercise, doesn't really help make that case if it happened in 2022,

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but it creates the appearance of a timeline

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if it happened in 2024. When Alex sees this Catastrophic Contagion, he instinctually

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fits it into how the story could be told. It would be

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convenient for the narrative if this

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exercise was right before Hotez's interviews, so that's the reality that's presented.

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That's the way you do it.

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It doesn't matter that Alex covered this story over two

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years ago. If it helps make his job easier to pretend it

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just happened, then it just happened. That's the way we go.

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Anyone who defends the way he handles information, I would love to hear them explain this one.

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Ge- Tucker, hit me up. Rogan, hit me up. Give me an explanation for why this is okay, and how

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Alex is really more accurate than the mainstream media. How do you defend this?

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All right, so if reality isn't cooperating, uh, then as a man,

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you choke it out.

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Mm-hmm.

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You just choke it out, and then you're like, "Ah!" And then it does.

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I guess that's about the only explanation you could give.

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See? MMA style.

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Yeah.

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That's how it goes. Your ground and pound has to be really solid to defeat reality.

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If you, if you do believe that you can exert, uh, a,

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like, a forceful (laughs) -

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Yeah.

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... impact on reality-

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Yeah.

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... then yeah, I guess...

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Yeah, what you have to do is create a machine that deals with the Higgs field-

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Mm-hmm.

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... and then you can go back and readjust things to where the observer effect gives you the stuff that-

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Okay.

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... makes it 2024.

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Well, I'm using Max Planck's equations to watch one of your shows from 2022.

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Good one.

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And, uh, you have...

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That'll happen.

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(laughs)

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That'll happen.

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Already done this-

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Echo! That's an echo in time.

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... you dumb-

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That's, uh, we've all lived through that. It's like when the cat shows up in the Matrix.

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You dumb dick.

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You've done it. Choke out (laughs) .

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This is (laughs) so pathetic.

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That's what I've got. I've got MMA for you. That's what I've got (laughs) .

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I just was shocked that, that Alex is trying to pass this off.

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I-

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It's very sad.

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See, here's the thing. I'm not shocked because I think he

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just genuinely forgot that this is what he w- he did before.

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I guess I'm shocked, not, like... shocked isn't the right word.

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Yeah.

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I'm a little bit shocked.

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No, I, I realize now where we're at, yeah.

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But it's like a, it's, it's surprisingly obvious.

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Yes.

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And-

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Yeah.

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... like,

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it stands to present him in a really bad light to any of his audience that's paying attention.

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Yeah.

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Yes.

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And that seems to me, like, kinda sloppy.

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You

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should be shocked, and it is only because we are trapped beneath a million miles of shit and mud

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that we don't even feel shock anymore-

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Yeah.

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... at things that should be very shocking.

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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So, Alex goes on talking a little bit about, uh, Catastrophic Contagion-

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Of course.

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... and how it's gonna kill us.

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Catastrophic.

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It's gonna kill us!

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It's contagion.

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Catastrophic

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contagion, because they don't want other independent media to investigate it

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and to spotlight it and to look at it, or anybody f- uh, an, an independent medical group to go get samples of it

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to put it under an electron microscope or in a CRISPR system

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to see if it's manmade like COVID. They wanna hit you flat-footed.

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(coughs) So, they gotta wait till the last

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minute and give their orders and roll out their operations, and 14 days before

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Trump being inaugurated is in the timeframe of politics and the world, the blink of an eye,

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it's a sucker punch.

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But it's not a sucker punch to us.

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So, it's a last-minute sucker punch.

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Yeah.

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Uh, the Trump inauguration's coming up-

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But not to us.

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Well, because they've emotionally prepared.

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Right.

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But it is a last-minute sucker punch in terms of the Catastrophic Contagion happening-

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Right.

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... and then Hotez coming out and announcing the plans.

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Ugh.

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Except it happened two years ago.

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Right.

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Ugh.

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Yeah. So, this is gonna pay dividends. This is gonna pay-

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I believe that.

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This is gonna, this, uh, tree shall bear fruit.

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Okay, okay.

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Uh...The issue is that, like,

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you know, there's all these public health things that could happen.

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Right.

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You know, like the bird flu.

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There's an infinite number of them because they haven't happened yet.

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Yeah.

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So it could be literally anything.

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But no one got excited by the bird flu, and, and so, like, they're doing this instead.

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Right.

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And I said the last few months-

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'Cause no one got excited.

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...nobody's buying the bird flu or monkeypox. They're gonna have some new virus up their sleeve.

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At the Bill Gates CIA

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drill

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at John Hopkins, that was the last drill that was the

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launch operation

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in late 2019,

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the virus they sent out of China, a corona respiratory, was exactly what it was,

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and so I said, "Will it be this? It'll probably be

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China." I've said that a bunch the last month. You can go find the clip.

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(laughs)

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(laughs) You've said that a bunch the last 20 years.

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The point is,

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is that that's

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what they've done.

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That's the point. So, uh, the 2019 exercise that Alex is talking about is Event

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201, which didn't feature a respiratory

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virus out of China. It was a coronavirus that appeared in Brazil. If you wanna say that this

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document is suspicious because it so

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closely mirrors what ended up happening in the

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real world, then you need to be accurate about the details that you claim are similar.

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When you fuck up really basic details, it makes it hard to take anything

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seriously, and that's kind of a problem-

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Yeah.

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... for the, what Alex is doing.

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Yeah.

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Yeah, it is, it is like the most weaponized version of the, the

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knowing just enough to hurt yourself kind of situation. Like, people know

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just enough about viruses and such from our educations throughout, you know, our lives that

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we only know enough to cause ourselves problems by not understanding what the fuck is actually going on.

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Mm-hmm.

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You know? Like, we understand that there is a word called coronavirus.

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Yeah.

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I get that that's a strain of viruses or whatever. But like, I

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still don't really know what that is. I just don't.

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Mm-hmm.

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And I probably never will.

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Do you know that corona means crown?

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See, there we go.

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Right?

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I don't know what that means.

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Okay.

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See?

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But that's your choice.

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Sure.

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You could learn a little more if you wanted.

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Th- yeah, but it won't help me.

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Probably not.

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Exactly.

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Well, it'll help you a little, but

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un- un- unless you go real far, it won't help you in any meaningful way.

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It'll help me a lot more if there's an

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MIT virologist who's like, "I understand coronaviruses," and I go, "Cool."

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Mm-hmm.

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"You do what you do, buddy."

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Right.

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The end.

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That, yep. Uh, it's not, it's not an endorsement of blind trust.

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No, no, no.

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Uh, but it is a, a recognition that you can't be a virologist and everything else you wanna be in your life.

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I can't know everything.

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Right.

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I just can't.

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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It's just not possible.

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It's just not possible.

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So when Alex says, uh, the, like, no one got excited about the bird flu or monkeypox-

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That's true.

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... it's important to recognize that what he's talking about is the au- his audience-

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Yeah.

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... didn't get scared enough about those things.

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Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

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So when he says that, like, Bill Gates is gonna have to roll out another thing-

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Mm-hmm.

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... he's saying this didn't really push, uh, things the way COVID did.

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Yeah.

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And we're gonna need something bigger. That's why he tried to do the Ebola thing-

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Mm-hmm.

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... last year, and w- what's behind his, "Uh, there's something big coming."

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There's a lot of, like, undertones of sweeps week.

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Yeah.

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You know? Like, oh, Gates is looking for a high Q rating.

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Mm-hmm.

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So he's gotta, he's gotta hit us with something, and it's like, no,

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you're the one interested in ratings.

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Yeah.

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You understand that, yeah.

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And that's, that's why this actually kinda goes back to, like, Sunday

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episodes of the past, where he would try things out.

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Right. You're right.

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This round was like a, like a pitch.

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A soft launch.

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Yeah.

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Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

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Um, 'cause it's stupid.

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It's dumb.

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Um, it's on Sunday, so you could abandon it if you need to.

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Don't even need to pay attention. Tomorrow is a new week.

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Right. (laughs)

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Yeah. (laughs)

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Um, so Alex is going on about the catastrophic contagion.

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Sure.

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And I think during this clip, you can hear him realize that it happened in 2022.

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Ooh.

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I think if you pay attention, you can hear it.

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You can hear the moment.

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So you wanna go to the

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catastrophic contagion page.

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Let's duplicate it. John Hopkins,

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Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation,

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Center for

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Health Security,

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and you've gotta read the public stuff they put out

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on catastrophic contagion.

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The John Hopkins Center for Health Security, in partnership with the WHO (clears throat)

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and the Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation (clears throat)

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conducted catastrophic contagion-

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When?

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... a pandemic

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tabletop. And they've done it over

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and over again

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in October of 2023.

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October of 2022.

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October of

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2024.

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(laughs)

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And

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as they honed it after COVID, their new attack, their new plan.

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(laughs)

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(laughs)

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And in it, it attacks children, and it's a specific type of respiratory virus

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that now just magically arrived, they say, out of Brazil and China in the last few months.

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But here they are,

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three months ago,

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a year ago, two years ago,

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having drills, and when you read each year, it's the same thing.

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Here's

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powerful report, Bill Gates next pandemic to target children, March 5th, 2023, infowars.com.

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(laughs)

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Oops. So this is, like-

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(laughs)

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... that's a person lying.

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Yeah.

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You can hear lying.

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Yeah.

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He has to accommodate

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as he's going through this, because he realized, "Ah, fuck, I'm, I'm wrong."

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Mm-hmm.

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So I think that it's critic... Like, if our show can do anything, it's show clips like that.

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Yeah.

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Like, that is what deceit

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is physically like.

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He's cold reading this information about catastrophic contagion, and Alex accidentally

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sees that the exercise took place in 2022.

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Yeah.

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Immediately, he knows that he needs to

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wallpaper over this, because the whole narrative is built on the idea that these exercises are the battle

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plan that was done just before launching the attack.

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They did Event 201 in 2019, then released COVID.

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If catastrophic contagion didn't just

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happen, then the entire structure of this conspiracy, uh, storyline crumbles.

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Alex understands that, and the preservation of the storyline is more important than truth or reality, so

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you can hear the gears turning and him decide to run with the idea that they

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do catastrophic contagion every year.

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Yep.

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He thinks this saves the ship, because

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now, it could've happened just before Peter Hotez's interview, but in reality, this actually creates

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more problems for Alex. These scenario

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exercises are supposed to be the planning for attacks that are about to be launched, but if they do this every

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year, where were the attacks that happened in 2022 or 2023?

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Yeah.

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Because Alex didn't prepare and because his story is bullshit,

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he's encountering fundamental problems with trying to make it make sense.

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His instinct is to bluff his way through and patch up these plot holes as he goes, but in this

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case, he's covering up this hole by making a much larger hole in the process.

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It doesn't matter though, because he doesn't believe any of this to begin with.

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It's just the most effective way he's found to keep the audience

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scared these days, so this is the ball and how it's gonna roll.

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Mm.

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Now, one of the things that I think is really super funny-

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Mm-hmm.

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... is that

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you said, uh, like, "When did they do it?"

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(laughs)

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And that's when he doesn't say the date.

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No.

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But he says, "October 2023."

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Yep.

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And the reason that he does that is because it's October 23rd, 2022.

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Oh my God.

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So, he sees the 23 first.

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Oh my God.

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And then he, there's that pause and you can almost tell that what he's doing is

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thinking like, "How do I make this work? Can I get away with saying that it happened in 2024 too?"

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Why not?

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All right. They were fine-tuning it over the years.

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Honing it.

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Yeah. (laughs)

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Honing it. That is, that is legitimately like, what I hear when he's doing that is

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a car hurtling toward an off-ramp, and there's that

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join right there with the water barrels, and he just barely misses the water barrels and, like,

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scrapes his entire side of the car against the wall, and he keeps driving just like, "Man, I nailed that-"

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Yeah.

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... with one half of a car."

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"I'm great."

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"Yeah. I'm the best."

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"And, and, and they said I couldn't drive drunk."

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"They said that you can't drive drunk. I barely even blew up."

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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I, it's just... I don't know. There's

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moments sometimes watching him that it's just like, "Ah, staggering. I see exactly what you're doing."

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You're, you're supposed to be a better liar, at the very least.

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Yeah.

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It's, it is, it is just so disappointing. Like, I b-

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I want to give you advice on how to scam better, but

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the reason that you get into this line of work is 'cause you're too lazy

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to work hard enough to do it right, you know?

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Yeah. I, I, I wonder, and I, I hate to, I hate to send this kind of a message-

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Sure.

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... but, you know, he's talked a bit about how he doesn't drink anymore.

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Right.

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And I wonder if this is byproduct of him-

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Yeah.

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... not drinking.

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Yeah, yeah, yeah. You would've been able to barrel head further, re- without regard.

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Yeah.

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This had, this, the cranking of the wheels were so loud and squeaky.

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(laughs) Yes.

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You're like, "Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. You gotta, you gotta put some oil on that thing, man."

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Put some Tito's Lube-

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Absolutely. (laughs)

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... on those gears. (laughs)

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Yes, absolutely. Those hurt.

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That sends the wrong message, and, and I think it's better for the world that he be sober-

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Sure, sure, sure.

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... and such. But, uh...

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Eh, what you gonna do?

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He may not be as good at being a dipshit on, uh, your show.

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You know if you practice drunk, you're not going to be better sober.

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May be the case.

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Mm-hmm.

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So, uh, we've got catastrophic contagion.

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Mm-hmm.

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Obviously this is what they're doing.

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Yeah.

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Because it, you know, timeline matches. They've been honing it over the years apparently now.

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Obviously. (laughs)

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Um, but what is the disease?

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Honing, honi- how have, how exactly have they been honing it through these tabletop exercises?

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What part of the tabletop exercise allows you to hone something?

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I don't know.

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Fair enough.

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He said it.

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Fair enough.

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Yeah.

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Fair enough.

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S- but what's the disease?

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Good question.

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You know we had COVID-

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Yeah.

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... that ended up being what Event 201 was about.

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Absolutely.

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Alex has got this figured out.

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Okay.

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China-

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Just China.

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... facing new COVID-like pandemic. Here is everything we need to know.

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And then it goes into describe the virus. Here it is.

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Human

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metapneumovirus

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(HMPV) is a respiratory virus that can cause pneumonia. This

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means a viral infection of the lungs. HMPV causes a mild infection similar to a cold

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with symptoms including fever, cough, running, blocked nose, headache, and tiredness.

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To some case, symptoms can progress to bronchitis and pneumonia.

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HMPV spreads through respiratory droplets

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from coughing or sneezing, contact with an infectious person's

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secretions, or contact with contaminated surfaces.

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HMPV is most commonly in young children, older adults, and people

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with weakened immune systems, like those that took the COVID vaccine, they admit

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on record, and all the studies does raise your immune system.

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There is no treatment for HMPV, but a healthcare provider

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can help manage the symptoms. Treatment options are

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oxygen therapy, IV fluids,

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corticosteroid, which they would deny everybody the steroids and stuff with COVID.

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But they tell us in the drill

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that they vary the names of, but they always put in a catastrophic contagion.

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Always. Always. Obviously.

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That, oh, this is-

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They have to.

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... a catastrophic thing.

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Have to.

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And it's gonna target children.

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Of course.

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And then they've got all these weaponized versions of it. And Bill Gates-

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Tons.

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... just keeps saying, "Oh, don't worry. This is gonna hit kids."

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And then now magically,

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here it is.

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Don't worry. Don't worry.

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So, I guess so far the similarity that Alex has pointed out between the cases of

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HMPV in China and the fictional disease from the

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catastrophic contagion exercise is that they both affect children.

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I guess.

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This is not a strong connection. Children are susceptible to a

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lot of illnesses, and in order to draw this connection,

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A- uh, Alex has had to lie about the catastrophic contagion being an annual exercise

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so he could be forced into an imaginary timeline. Catastrophic contagion

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was an exercise primarily targeted at leadership response to an emerging outbreak.

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The SPARS one was about media messaging and mass communication. Event 201 was about

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public/private cooperation in a crisis. And this one is mostly about what

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the best engagement would be between international groups and national governments during a pandemic.

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The exercise involved a fictional enterovirus that has popped up in the area of what is, uh, in the real world

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Guyana and Suriname, but they're called Nueva Esperanza and San Rafael for the purposes

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of keeping it abstract in the exercise.

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Sure. Whatever.

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One of the early questions that gets asked is about, uh, at, uh,

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the point in the outbreak when the cases appear to be restricted to these two countries

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and it looks like containment might be possible. In that situation, should the WHO

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recommend that they close schools in that area? Should they

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recommend restricting travel? They weren't debating

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mandating anything, but whether or not it's their place to make recommendations for things that are

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national-level leaders' responsibility to address.

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Mm-hmm.

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So, this is the kind of territory that was being explored within the context of, uh, this exercise.

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Should we step in if the people who run these places are fucking stupid?

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But stepping in, w- does it look like... How, how strongly do we make these recommendations, basically?

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Build a dome on top of the entire thing.

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Right. You obviously can't do that.

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Obviously.

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But w- what is the p- appropriate relationship between these international

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public health, uh, interested bodies and sovereign nations that can make their own choices?

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All right.

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Th- it is an interesting question in a lot of respects.

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New pitch.

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Yeah.

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All right? We build a gigantic

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r- let's say mid-sized country sized dome-

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Uh-huh.

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... that is easily movable using, uh, a lot of drones, right?

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Well, we know, we know that most countries are the same size.

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About that.

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Yeah.

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Medium sized.

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Sure.

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Normal sized, if you will. Uh, and then-

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We're going normal.

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(laughs) And then where... Yeah, I mean, I guess, uh, what would I say is a normal sized country? Uh-

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Russia, you are abnormally large.

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(laughs) Too big. America, too big.

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Mm-hmm.

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Uh, uh, you know, uh, Central Africa, usually about the right size.

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Okay.

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They know what they're doing border-wise.

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Luxembourg, France, unusually small.

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Too small.

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Mm-hmm.

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Too small. What are you guys doing? Get your shit together.

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Right.

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Uh, and then whenever an outbreak happens, we just drop it on the place.

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It'll take care of itself. We pop it off whenever they're done.

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Sure.

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Yeah. Makes sense.

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Cartoon, uh, solutions are always the best.

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I don't think they've, uh, not worked yet.

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So, look, I don't wanna go too far into the weeds here-

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Sure.

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... far off track, but I fucking love these scenario exercises.

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I believe you.

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I think they're so fun.

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Ugh.

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And if anyone ever invited me to one, I would go. (laughs)

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Obviously.

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I think they're great. (laughs)

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Obviously.

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Um, I really hate the way that Alex misuses them.

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Yeah.

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Uh, 'cause they're very interesting and they explore, uh, generally,

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uh, difficult questions.

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Yeah.

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And I don't think it, the way that he handles information is equipped to look at it even

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on the surface level.

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I'm telling you, we get a big arena. I'll do, I'll do announcing duties. Like,

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"Uh, ladies and gentlemen, coming from the

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north door, he's got 10 years of experience in Doctors Without Borders, and then he's..."

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You know, like, I could do that.

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Right.

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It'd be great. He comes down to massive applause.

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And then, then the next person you would give an introduction to is the guy who makes domes. (laughs)

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I'd be amazing. That would be a great introduction.

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Yeah.

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He makes domes. Done.

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So HMPV is, uh, what Alex has decided is the, the next COVID.

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Sure.

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He has decided that is the case because he has-

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'Cause he's decided.

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... made up a bunch of stuff about catastrophic contagion, and I think he sees some money in this.

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Sure.

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So he brings out an InfoWars article-

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Mm-hmm.

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... about catastrophic contagion, which was from 2023, which-

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And at no point in time goes, "Well, this makes everything I'm saying right now pointless."

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Well, no, because he's come up with the rationalization that they do it every year.

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Sure.

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He's already established that, so now-

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Oh my God.

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Problem solved.

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I don't like that. (laughs)

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And the best article I should've gotten to first is on InfoWars.com.

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(laughs) Look at him. Listen to his confidence now.

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By Jamie White.

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When he first started reporting on this

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three years ago.

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Catastrophic contagion. Bill Gates, Johns Hopkins, and WHO

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conduct another pandemic simulation with deadlier virus that targets children.

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(coughs)

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The Johns Hopkins Center for Health Security, in partnership with the World

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Health Organization and Bill and Melinda Gates

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Foundation, conducted another pandemic tabletop exercise in Brussels, Belgium.

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And again, they continue to have these meetings and hype

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this, and then magically, right on time, just like COVID was to stop the Trump agenda

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and bring in the globalist agenda, it happens again.

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Go read the whole article.

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What is HMPV? New outbreak in China explained.

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Many concerned about the HMPV, formerly known as human

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metapneumovirus, after reports of new virus outbreak in China.

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The agency admits there's a bunch of illnesses and

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deaths, but they say, "Don't worry, it's fine," though they have martial law provisions

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in place.

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Sure.

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And here it is. Five years after COVID, new epidemic in China,

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which affects children and the elderly.

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China says, "Yes, there's a spike, but it's not a pandemic."

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But again, you got Hotez and the globalists saying, "Don't worry, Trump'll be hit

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by the new pandemic," and now they're rolling it out the

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exact same way. "Oh, don't be afraid, everything's fine." So

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you think they're liars, 'cause they normally are, so you think, "Oh my God, it must really be bad."

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It's all psychological warfare. And then suddenly they'll say, "Okay, it is bad."

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Okay, it makes sense. Total, totally makes sense.

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That makes so much sense.

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This makes no sense.

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It makes too much sense.

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The basic building blocks of this story are supposed to be that in 2019, they did Event tw- uh,

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201, which was a planning session for the COVID

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release. After that exercise, Fauci came out and said that Trump would be faced with a mystery

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illness, and then COVID showed up to derail the Trump agenda. According to

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Alex, history is repeating. In October

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2024, they did Catastrophic Contagion, which is the planning session for HMPV.

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After that exercise, Hotez came out and

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said that Trump would face a mystery illness in his new term, and now this HMPV shows up in China

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just in time to derail the Trump agenda again. That's all good and well, but the exercise happened two

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years prior, and Alex has had to lie to say that it's an annual thing in order to

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just avoid admitting that he's making all of this up.

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Alex's audience has such low standards that he can get away with this level of bullshit.

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Fundamental details are being misreported in such a sloppy and

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self-disproving way that you really can't pay attention to what he's doing without realizing

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that he's just trying to whip up hysteria. He has

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no information or helpful insights to pass along to the

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audience, he's just got a predetermined conclusion that he's supporting with

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lies. And like, I think one of, the thing that's interesting about this is

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it's so exactly what you'd expect from a liar.

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Yeah.

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Which is that you have

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a introductory

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argument.

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Sure.

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Which is, "HMPV is COVID all over again, and I know it because of this catastrophic contagion."

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Yeah.

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That's your ba-ba.

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Yeah.

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Your, your reveal. And then as you're going

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through it, you realize, "Ah, shit,

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I don't have all the details about the catastrophic contagion thing." That kind of

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collapses my argument-

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Sure.

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... underneath its own weight.

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Yeah.

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So let's pretend that the argument's about something else, which is, they do this every year.

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Yeah.

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It's just, it's just sad.

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It is, it is an example of that, like,

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okay, well the only reason that the coyote falls is 'cause he looks down.

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Right.

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So if I just don't look down,

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I'm good.

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Yep. Cartoon logic again.

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It is, it is. It 100% is.

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Huh. So this is the new COVID.

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So when you saw the arrogance and confidence of Fauci

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five years ago, in January of...

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longer than that, oh God, 2017.

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Oh my God, I hate you so much.

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What is that, eight years ago?

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Saying don't worry, Trump will be hit by a new pandemic, that'll cut him down to size.

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And then you see Hotez a month ago saying it's gonna happen.

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And then you see all the emergencies start, and all the

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emergencies being declared, and the masks going back on and all of it. I mean, they said

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he will be hit by it, you will be hit by it.

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They've said that's how they get their global government.

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And so they have these events every year at Johns Hopkins, and the last three

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years, they've been hyping up this particular type of respiratory virus

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that targets children, and now it's here. And then we've got all these other articles.

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This is, uh, out of

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The Guardian, which is the mouthpiece of the New World Order.

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Are we ready for another pandemic?

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Yeah, so I, this is, this is the,

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the world as it's being presented.

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It, it's, okay, so here's, here's how I'm feeling about it. I'm feeling like what he's, what is happening

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is, to his audience, he's like the guy at the, at the pickup basketball game,

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uh, where normal people play. And you're picking teams, and this guy looks

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ripped. He's like, he's, he looks like he's got the

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body to do it, so you pick him. And then you start playing the game and you find out

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there's no hand-eye coordination whatsoever.

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Yeah.

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Like, just no grace, no smooth fluidity of movement, and everything they do is at full speed

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and it's a brick. And there is nothing less helpful to your team-

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Yeah, he has-

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... than this fucking guy.

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He has no fundamentals, but every now and again, he'll dunk and break the backboard.

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He's so fast. Yeah, he's so fast and he can jump so high, and you're like, but that's, there's more to it, man.

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He'll break the backboard, but the dunk won't go in.

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No.

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He's like Shaq, but m- he misses.

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It's a disaster. Yeah, it's a disaster. He's, he's a horrifying nightmare.

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Yeah, he sucks.

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Yep.

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So they, uh, the,

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also, the thing about Fauci in 2017 kind of undercuts the premise too.

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Uh-

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Like, his whole timeline thing is completely off, 'cause that's before 201...

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huh.

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Uh, h- how, uh, how, d- what's...

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Here's the problem with doing a tabletop exercise like this once a year. One,

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why once a year? On the anniv- is that on the anniversary? Does everybody look

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forward to it? Is there a potluck? Whatever.

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Mm-hmm.

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Fine. But two, all you're really gonna learn if you continue doing the

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same tabletop exercises that life is filled with random bullshit.

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Yeah.

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Yeah, I mean, I mean, like Event 201 and this catastrophic contagion are both done by Johns Hopkins.

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Yeah.

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Or, hosted by them, but they explore different aspects of pandemic preparedness.

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Yeah.

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And, uh, it would be stupid to just do the same thing every year.

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We're just re-rol- oh, we're re-rolling.

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Yeah, it'd be very boring.

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Yeah, that's stupid.

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Um, but that's what Alex does.

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Yeah.

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So anyway.

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Great.

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Uh, the globalists, their plan and the way they do this stuff-

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Mm-hmm.

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... is to like say, "Eh, it's no big deal."

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Mm-hmm.

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And then tell you, "Oh, it's a big deal."

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Right.

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Right? Because you remember they downplayed COVID, and then were like, "Oh no, it's real bad."

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Right.

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'Cause that's, that's definitely, uh, 100% what happened.

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I don't recall that being what happened.

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Well, I mean, circumstances changed, so messaging changed.

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Sure.

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And maybe you could squint and see that as-... downplaying

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s- an emergency, and then saying it's an emergency.

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Sure.

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So anyway, that's what they did with, uh, hMPV.

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Hmm. But they've already got this thing rolling out, they've already got it planned.

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And here they are, "Oh, you won't let us save you from the new pandemic, you won't give us complete power

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and control over your lives."

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"China reports new virus outbreak, hospitals overwhelmed."

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So just three or four days ago, "Oh, there's not a emergency, fake news."

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Now today, out of The Straits Times and Straits Global and, and then

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Chinese newspapers, okay, new outbreak, hospitals overwhelmed. Okay, so just like five years ago.

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"No, there's not a problem. Okay, we're overwhelmed. Okay, it's an emergency." Within a

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week or so, it'll be, "Okay, it's an emergency." "China downplays reports of

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new virus, hPMV outbreak." That was

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January 3rd,

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Business

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Standard. Now,

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days later, "Oh wait, China reports new virus outbreak, hospitals overwhelmed." So,

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hMPV is the new virus in humans,

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similar to COVID-19, is it? What

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you need to know, The Economist.

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What is hMPV? China steps up emergency measures amid new virus outbreak. That's

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today in the London Independent and hundreds of... Oh, so wait a minute, a week ago, "Oh no, it's nothing."

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A week later, "Okay, emergency measures." I thought there wasn't an emergency in China.

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So if this episode was recorded on Sunday, I'll read to you now from the New York Times on Tuesday-

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Okay.

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... after this episode.

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After the episode.

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Two days later.

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Two days later.

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This is the comment from a World Health Organization spokesperson, quote,

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"The WHO is in contact with Chinese health officials and has not received any reports of

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unusual outbreak patterns. Chinese authorities report that the healthcare

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system is not overwhelmed and there have been no emergency declarations or responses triggered."

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Huh.

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Sounds weird, it sounds different than what Alex is saying, doesn't it?

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Wild.

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I mean, totally different.

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Mm-hmm.

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So here's the breathless, panicking headline from CNN's coverage on Tuesday, again, after this episode.

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Right.

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Quote, "Rising hMPV cases in China are what we would expect to see in winter, healthcare officials say."

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Here's the Washington Post headline, again from Tuesday, quote,

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"Overblown fears of hMPV cases in China reflect pandemic scars."

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Yeah.

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Alex was saying that the media had downplayed the

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hMPV outbreak, but now is saying it's a super serious thing.

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And yet when I look at the media, I'm seeing them explain that it's not that big of a deal.

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That's weird and I don't know how to make this, this fit.

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Yeah.

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So Alex specifically cited The Straits Times, which is a paper of record in Singapore.

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So I went and I checked out their coverage.

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Okay.

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Here is, uh, from an article titled, quote, "Should You Be

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Worried About an hMPV Outbreak in China?" dated January 7th, two days after Alex's episode.

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Quote, "There have been signs of heightened public vigilance in China,

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with more passengers spotted wearing masks on public transit. However, there

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do not appear to be widespread fears about an hMPV outbreak in the country. When The Strait Times,

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uh, visited two local hospitals in Beijing on January

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6th, there was a steady flow of patients, but no long queues and facilities were not overwhelmed.

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Visitors there told ST that, uh, same-day consultations were definitely possible." So that's the source

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that he actually cited as saying that the hospitals were overwhelmed.

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Sure.

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So that's, that's weird.

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Yeah.

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What's going on here is that Alex is mixing up sources and headlines. The headline that he actually

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says is, quote, "China Reports New Virus Outbreak, Hospitals Overwhelmed."

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That's from a blog called StratNewsGlobal, which has a name that is suspiciously similar to

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legitimate science outlet, StatNews. I'm not

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super familiar with StratNewsGlobal or their reputation, but I'll read you a little, uh, uh,

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section from the article that Alex is talking about, I'll let you assess things for yourself.

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Okay.

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Quote, "Despite no official confirmation, social

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media posts suggested that China has declared a state of emergency.

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An X handle known as SARS-CoV-2 wrote, quote, 'China declares state of emergency as

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epidemic overwhelms hospitals and crematoriums.'"

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So to track this, Alex is reporting on an article

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from StratNewsGlobal, which uses as its primary source an anonymous Twitter account which has no

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proof of the claim that it's making.

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If you go to this Twitter account and their post, their source seems to be coming from a Chinese blog

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aggregator site called abuluowang.com. This site appears to just

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post links from articles written by another outlet called Apollo

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News Network, and I have literally no idea who they

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are or what they're all about. However, an article that they posted on the same day as the one that's the

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root of Alex's reporting is titled, quote, "Going To Bed Early Can Cure All Diseases."

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All right.

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So we're doing-

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Well, that's nice.

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Yeah, we have some quality work here.

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I like that.

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Yeah.

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Uh-huh. Mm-hmm.

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Uh-huh.

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The article that the anonymous account's tweet was based on was published on December

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27th, so Alex's argument about the timeline of

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covering up the outbreak then taking it seriously, it doesn't even work if you just

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believe everything. Plus, I was poking around the Apollo

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News coverage of the outbreak, and I noticed a little bit of a trend.

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They appear to have quotes from a bunch of primary sources like

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random civilians who have seen or experienced something.

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In some cases, they're cited as, quote, "Miss Li, a resident of Xinjiang," or, quote,

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"Mr. Yang, uh, from Jiujuh Coun- uh, County." However, the quotes, uh,

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from these people, they show up in multiple

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articles. And if you poke around enough, you'll find that these are not originally

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sourced quotes. The blog is just taking comments from the Epoch Times and then re-reporting them.

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Great.

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It appears that this blog has a very anti-CCP stance, and it may be involved with the Falun Gong folk.

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Their editorial line seems to be that the

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Chinese government is covering up this outbreak, and they end one of their articles saying, quote,

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"In August 2024, Master Li Hongzhi,

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the founder of Falun Gong, warned that the COVID-19 pandemic was mainly aimed

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at the Communist Party and those who blindly

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followed the Communist Party, defended the Communist Party, and worked for the Communist Party.

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Many people have died, including many young people.

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Master Li also warned the world, 'Stay away

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from the evil Communist Party and do not stand with the evil party.'"

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Sure.

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A lot of their articles also have a citation to the

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New Tang Dynasty television, uh, outlet, which is a media company started and run by Falun Gong followers.

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Hmm.

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So it took a little while to untangle, but you can see a pretty clear path of sourcing here.

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There's a Chinese blog that's dubious in terms of its content who appears to be an arm of the Falun Gong

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movement that just recycles Epoch Times stuff.

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Uh, they posted an article about hospitals being overrun on December 27th.

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That article was used as a source by an anonymous Twitter account pushing the same story and adding

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no new information to the coverage.

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That tweet was then used by StratNewsGlobal to justify coverage that, quote, you know, like

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some people are saying hospitals are overwhelmed-

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Mm-hmm.

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... uh, which Alex is now

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exaggerating out to being this whole,

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uh, th- of the media. All the media is saying the

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hMPV situation is a horrible emergency that you should be scared of now,

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but they said it was no big deal earlier.

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Mm-hmm.

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Alex gets away with this kind of bullshit because it takes a while to track this kind of stuff down

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and figure out what he's talking about, and he knows damn well that no one in his audience has

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any interest in doing that. They just wanna hear what he says and feel something accordingly.

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Yeah.

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They're not gonna go and look and find, like, "Where did this claim come from? Oh."

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Yeah.

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"Oh, I see. Maybe it's not that serious."

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Okay, so here's a thought, all right? Now,

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as a species, right, clearly

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we are not prepared to handle

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the now.

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Mm-hmm.

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Right? So what if we all voluntarily go back in time and we, like,

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prove that we can handle something? So, like, say we go back to the 1700s, we all just like,

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okay, we live in, like, these small villages and shit, do that whole thing.

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But this time, we won't do the witch thing.

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... like and as long as we prove we won't do the witch

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thing, then we can advance to like 1800s, you know, like treat it more

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like a video game, like. But I don't know if we could, uh-

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I, I don't think we could.

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I don't think we could prove we wouldn't do witches again. (laughs)

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I don't.

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I think we would just do witches again. So then we gotta go back further.

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Tucker Carlson got attacked by a demon.

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I, that's what I'm saying. We gotta go back further and I

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swear to God, I don't think we could make it down from the trees, man.

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No.

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I don't think we could.

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I, I would worry.

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Yeah.

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I would be very worried.

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It'd be a bad Rogue l- if the human race was a Rogue-like video game, we would not do well.

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No.

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No.

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And I think that there's an important point that I wanna just make here too.

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Mm-hmm.

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Which is, uh, you know, there are cases of hMPV, uh, in China.

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Sure.

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They are a, a, a little over what is normally expected.

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Sure.

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Um, and so it's not a non-existent thing.

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Sure.

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People should be aware and, you know, I think that it's wise to espo- like

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during cold and flu season, why not take some precautions? It's not the dumbest thing ever. But also,

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I don't think that I see any real reason why people should be panicking.

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Like the, what Alex, the response that he's encouraging out of people

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is bad, but pretending that there isn't a

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disease is also bad.

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But also, it's not anything like COVID because this is a known condition and,

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you know, those dynamics are very different. I just, I, I, all I see is desperation on his, uh, on his face.

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Yeah. Yep, yep. Yeah. I'm not, uh, you know, I can't tell people what to do beyond don't do what Alex is doing.

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Right.

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How about that?

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Right.

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That's my pitch.

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Yeah.

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You know?

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I guess, I guess what I'm trying to crystallize is like

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I'm saying he's full of shit.

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Mm-hmm.

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But when I say that, I don't mean that there is no such thing as hMPV-

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Sure.

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... or that they aren't seeing more cases of it than they have in the past year-

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Sure.

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... or whatever.

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Yeah.

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I'm not saying that. I'm saying he's full of shit.

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He's full of shit.

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That's all.

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End of story.

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So do you remember earlier you said you only know a little bit about science and vaccine, uh, viruses and-

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'Cause I'm, I'm gradually learning less as we go along.

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Do you want to feel really smart?

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I don't, but I guess I will. (laughs)

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I think you will at the end of this clip.

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(laughs)

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Now it's coming out in court that they, they did hundreds of different things we know of in different shots.

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So some people got this, some people got that. It was all just a giant weapon attack.

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Some doses were super hot in certain areas, not to others.

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What?

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Others were given saline, others weren't.

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Called range finding.

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Some doses were hot.

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They were targeting different doses-

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It was a hot vaccine.

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... concoctions.

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It's a leaky hot one. (laughs)

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God, I hate this.

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(laughs)

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I know the military on average got the very worst versions.

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What?

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And now most people that took it have had their immune system damaged or pretty much removed,

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and

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then you bring in the next virus. And then regular viruses are killing people at record levels because of it.

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And it's all run by Bill Gates who says he wants to depopulate you and his

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dad was the head of Planned Parenthood and the head of the World Eugenic Society.

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And the real name of his foundation is the World Population Control Foundation.

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Look at the founding documents, it's 1999,

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of that new foundation. It's not Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation.

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You read the corporate filing documents, it's- it's

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the, it's- it's called the World Population Control Foundation.

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And it says its goal is to reduce world population, which he said.

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So a guy that wants less people wants you to take a shot so there's more people. I mean, come on, people.

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Wake up.

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Uh, you know, I told you guys get all these clips, you- and the crew is, are saints putting up with me, um,

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c- because I've been a little bit of a monster today. And I, and I, and I, and I'm honest about it.

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Doesn't help.

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Because my shells, because I'm, I'm an intellectual bull and I'm also

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controlled, I make my decisions coldly.

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(laughs)

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My body can't, my body, my, my lower limbic system, um, is enraged right now because I'm under attack,

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and my children are under attack, and my family's under attack.

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And it looks bad and, you know,

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it's all because the public has Stockholm syndrome and can't believe this is happening to them.

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And

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if they try to declare

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here,

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which they're saying they're doing,

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and if Trump listens to his administration, if there's any bad guys in there,

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and the hospitals get the policy directors from the CDC

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not to give people the steroids and the IVs

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and the antibiotics 'cause you say, "Well, antibiotics for a virus?" It's the bacteria that

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carry in the virus and once you get damage, cell damage from the

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vi- first viral load, it causes tissue damage, then bacteria invade that.

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And then you've gotta knock out the bacteria

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because they're the s- uh, uh, uh during the

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viral bloom, they're what chews holes in everything so the viruses can get through the defenses, and it

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weighs down the white blood cells having to take out the bacteria

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so they can't deal with the viruses. I don't want to go into all of it, but just it's, it's fascinating.

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Oh, I want you to.

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Please.

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Please go into all of it because what

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you have just given me is one of the more insane things I've ever heard in my entire life.

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Yeah, they, they, well they, they, they're like, uh, uh, partners in this.

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I mean-

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The virus and the bacteria, they work together.

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I feel like-

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One of them is the tank, the battering ram-

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Yeah.

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... and the other is the, uh, the cat burglar.

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I feel like a-

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Second story man.

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... Catholic priest in the 400s just explained sex to me.

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Hmm.

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Like, you, sir, I don't think you know what you're talking about.

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Uh, I'm certain.

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(laughs)

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Also that Gates Foundation stuff is just something Alex half remembered seeing in a tweet

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and he's pretending that he knows it from

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researching their founding documents 'cause he's a fucking fraud.

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Yeah. Yep, yep, yep.

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He's fundamentally misunderstanding how microbes work too. Like

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bacteria are alive and they can reproduce on their own, whereas viruses are just packets of nucleic, uh,

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acid that require a cell to infect, which allows them to then reproduce.

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It's possible for a virus to have bacteria as a host.

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It's actually something that's been extensively studied, they're called bacteriophages.

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Yep.

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And like thi- this is not... I- I just, uh, it's overwhelmingly dumb-

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Yep.

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... what he's saying.

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Yeah.

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The virus,

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uh, needs the bacteria to chew in. (laughs)

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Yeah. No, you would be infinitely better off knowing absolutely

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nothing about viruses than to know one-tenth of that.

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Mm-hmm.

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That is, that is a negative information loop-

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Yep.

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... that will remove information from your brain

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and throw it into the trashcan that you need and replace with that. Like a fucking virus!

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Yeah. But if you have that virus-

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Yeah.

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... you have to take antibiotics. Uh-

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(sighs) I don't, I don't even like hearing these words.

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Well you got to because-

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(laughs)

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... your white blood cells are tired-

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No, I don't want-

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... from fighting all the bacteria.

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Don't say that to me.

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You have to.

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Don't say, no, don't say

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your white blood cells are weighed down.

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Mm-hmm. Well, it's like, um, you know, you ever try to walk in wet clothes?

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I mean, I do.

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You know, it's like that. You gotta take the antibiotic to dry off your clothes.

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Somehow you're hurting me now. (laughs)

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Yeah. Oh, yeah. Get ready for more.

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(laughs)

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Oh, when I was young and dumb, I'd s- I'd- I'd go to the doctor and say, "Man, I, I got a vir-"

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You know, he'd say, "You got a viral infection." They do the test

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and, you know, 'cause I wouldn't just take antibiotics, I, I want a test. "Sure, we'll just give you

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antibiotics right now even if it's..." And I, I, and I'd say, "Ah, that's not for a virus."

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And then I got older and read all the literature and it's like,

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no, you take an antibiotic with a viral infection 'cause that's how the virus gets in.

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That's how the virus gets in.

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It's already in and replicating, but it, but, but

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it doesn't matter. The point is they denied people antibiotics during COVID.

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People need steroids immediately with whatever this stuff

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already hitting on the East Coast. It's bad,

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the number... I've talked to the people involved. Hospitals are full. Death, you name it. And we've been

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hit by lots of this stuff before. It killed my uncle, one of their cooked up things 10 years ago.

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I was there in Palestine,

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biggest town near where our family ranch is at.

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He was like Popeye tough as an ox, 67,

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my mom's older brother.

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William Forrest Hammond, great, best guy I ever knew,

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John Wayne for real.

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And, uh, hospitals just full of dead bodies. They were just wheeling dead people out.

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It was like Day of the Dead.

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And they said they'd never seen anything like it, and it's all over the country.

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And the callers were calling into the death, but back then,

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the- the- the media... The globalists were testing, not telling people.

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They'd already launched a plague then.

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That was their testing?

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And it came out later, I talked to scientists, that they'd seen it had been a weaponized pneumonia.

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Oh, yeah, that makes sense. So we're

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already in the it's-over-humanity levels of sensationalism.Yep, yep.

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Like on the East Coast, everyone's already dying from-

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Yep.

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... HMPV.

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Yep.

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There's-

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They're gone.

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Yeah.

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They're gone. And we're being tested on by not knowing that the entire East Coast is gone.

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Right.

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How fast is information?

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See, and this is weird, because data from the CDC shows that HMPV rates are actually much higher in the

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Midwestern states, like Missouri, Kansas, Nebraska and Iowa.

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This isn't a new virus and it's not unexpected that there would be cases of it. People should

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obviously take health precautions just in

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general and be responsible, but from all the available information, it doesn't

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look like this is any cause for panic outside of just

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being careful.

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Yeah.

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Alex is, uh, going pretty hard at this pretty

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fast, and I think that he's gonna leave himself room where he needs to backpedal.

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We've talked about Alex's uncle and, uh, how much Alex is exploiting his memory in the past, so I don't

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particularly care to get into it too deeply, but I was looking into this a little bit-

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Mm-hmm.

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... and I found an article that I wanted to share with you.

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Okay.

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This is from the Allentown Reader from February 1st, 1898.

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Okay. (laughs)

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It's about a different William Hammond dying,

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uh, because I- I was, you know, just looking up-

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Hey, why not?

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... obituaries.

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Yeah, yeah, you're there.

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So here's the headline.

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Okay.

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Quote, "Harvest of Death: The Old and Young Gathered in by the Great Reaper."

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All right, now that's a headline.

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(laughs) That's a crazy headline.

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That's a fucking headline.

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Yeah.

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That's how you do it back in 1898.

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I thought that was a pretty dramatic way to open the obituaries page.

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Sure, sure.

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But then it got even more insane, 'cause I was reading through them and

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all of the people who died were old. They said, quote, "The old and the young," because

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one of the people who died was named Margaret Young, so it was like whimsical wordplay-

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Wow.

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... in the obituaries page.

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Wow.

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Yeah, I thought that was amazing.

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You know, they- they weren't, they weren't

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busy and a lot of people were dying all

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the time back then, so there was probably a different relationship with death.

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And I think people were hungry, like the writers were hungry to sh-

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They needed something, yeah.

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... like express their creativity.

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Yeah, yeah, absolutely, absolutely.

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Man.

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Anyway, uh, Alex's uncle got killed by a plague, uh, that the globalists did.

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Yeah.

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And also his grandmother.

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Sure.

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They tried to get her too.

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Yeah.

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My grandmother, died at 92, but she was in a wheelchair. Beautiful woman from the mid-50s on.

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That was when she was beautiful or... Never mind. Okay. We'll just let that go.

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She had an iron lung

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for a while.

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Wow. (laughs) A beautiful one or?

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And

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her doctor told her, he said, uh, "Bennie, Bennie Grace."

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He said, "Bennie,

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I'm sorry. Yeah, it was this second live polio shot we gave you. It's, it's been giving everybody

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polio."

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(laughs) What a strange day.

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He used to tell people, it's in the medical literature, most polio was caused by the vaccine from the start.

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And it also had

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H- H- SV40 cancer virus in it.

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And the COVID shots have that. Just type in

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SV40 cancer virus-

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Oh my God.

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... in Moderna, Pfizer shots. You'll get Mainline,

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Harbor, you know, name it.

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SV40

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contamination in

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Moderna, Pfizer shots

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and a couple hundred other deadly ones now.

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So there's not SV40 contamination in

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COVID vaccines. That was something that was true of some early polio vaccines, but it stopped

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in 1963. It's conceivable that Alex's grandmother

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would have been the right age to get an early polio vaccine, and she very

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well may have gotten one that had an SV40 contamination. But even in the unlikely case that that's true,

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no doctor would have told her that her polio vaccine gave her polio.

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That would be insane.

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I really, really doubt that.

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Yeah.

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Vaccine-derived polio is a real thing, but it doesn't work like this in the real world.

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However, it does work like this in an anti-vaxxer's imagination, which is where this story comes from.

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Alex has created a personal anecdote to be the emotional

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decoration that he uses to make these idiotic beliefs seem more resonant and convincing to the audience.

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Yeah.

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We've talked about it before, but the only way that pieces of this story could be true

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are if Alex's grandmother was a victim of a very specific fuck up

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where Cutter Laboratories sent out an incorrectly prepared batch of the polio

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vaccine. There were sizable numbers of people who got polio that way, but the

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number of people who developed a condition that would involve an iron lung, I

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think it was like less than 200 people

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total. I think it's very unlikely that Alex's grandmother is one of those people, but if that's-

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Sure.

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... the case, it's very sad, but also doesn't prove that vaccines don't work. It's just a

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safety standard issue and the laboratory fucked up.

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Yeah.

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So I- I don't know. I don't buy all these details. I think that... I think it's full of shit.

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I, you know, sometimes when you read about the past

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and then you hear something that's like so patently insane that you're like there's no way that that's real.

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Like, uh, the guy who goes around, uh, in the past giving people lobotomies.

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Mm-hmm.

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Just like in a van. Just like, "Hey, I'll chop your brain out." You know, that kind of thing. And you go,

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there's no way that somebody would go up to that man

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whose job is to lie to you and say that whipping a wire around inside your skull is gonna make you feel better.

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But man, I bet they did.

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Mm-hmm.

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I bet they did happily. I bet they were like, "Oh,

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yeah, see, because viruses, 'cause your white blood cells, they- they get weighed down."

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Right, it's like wearing white clothes.

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They get weighed down. Absolutely.

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Yeah.

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So you gotta have a piece of your brain ripped out. Duh. What are you, stupid?

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I mean when you put it that way.

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I mean, yeah, now I'm convinced.

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So Alex is committed

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now.

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Now.

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To the, uh, HMPV, uh, co- catastrophic-

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Well, at least he is for this Sunday special report.

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Yeah, and that- that's meaningful.

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(laughs) That's a forever, yeah.

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No, it's- it's- it's very important.

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(laughs) He analyzed the enemy attack.

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It's not gonna be the bird flu. That's to target the food supply and just get the first-

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Duh.

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... emergencies in place.

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Idiots.

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And they wanted to use that to get Congress to pass the emergency funding.

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Of course.

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And it's going to be,

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uh, this new

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respiratory virus.

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It's not new.

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And that's what's been the main thing in their war games, HPMV,

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that they're now

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hyping up in China.

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So, uh, I- I'm gonna- I'm gonna come back and then, and then, and then Chase is gonna still come in and do some.

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Uh, and I guess the streams are still up, so I- I won't have to go to the Alex Jones network and do the show.

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Uh, but, uh, just- just thank you all and just- just

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pray for, pray for a global awakening. And it's already happening, but just pray for more of it.

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All these little side issues, quite frankly, don't matter if this is the number one issue, in my view.

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This is the number one issue, catastrophic contagion and, uh, HMPV.

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Well, if it's the number one issue on this Sunday, I guarantee it's gonna be the number one issue for the next

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years.

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How about for the next 20 minutes?

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How do you think?Uh, they are pushing HMPV,

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and if you look at the signature of how they're hyping it, where they're doing it in

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China, that it's in the documents, that this is what they were

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predicting would show up,

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it fits all the other patterns for COVID

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and then other covert events they've done.

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And so,

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uh, I believe with

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near certainty that

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this is the big one.

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And that doesn't mean it's really that deadly. We don't know yet.Or-

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or it could be totally made up, but- but generally

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they- they-What?They make something synthetic so only they can patent

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it............................I'm sorry,

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what?And then they've also got the shot they're gonna give you so that the

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vaccine looks like it's meant to do this, 'cause it's countering that,

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but it really does something completely different.

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You know? And instead, people- we have all these rules and wars and all that stuff. But it's just

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people writing letters like assholes.

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Mm-hmm. Hmm?

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I don't know.

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Well, I- I- it's oversimplifying a tiny bit.

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A little bit.

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But look, I'm just talking socially. (laughs)

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(laughs)

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If you blab to Rima Lebeau-

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Sure.

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... b- b- z- like, dude.

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You're not getting invited to the next party.

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Like, if I'm one of the royals-

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Sure.

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... and y- let's say you're that person who told Rima-

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Right.

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... I would immediately corner you.

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Right.

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And I'd be like, "What the fuck were you thinking?"

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Right.

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"Wha- d- do you need to tell your- this- this lady, this doctor-"

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I mean, but you know what? We have examples of this. Like

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you've- have you- you haven't watched The Crown, but this shit happens to the British all the goddamn time.

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Loose lips.

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They've got- they've got idiot royals going around being like, "Ah, we

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killed her." Like, they just do crazy

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shit like that, and then the queen goes, "Eh, get back into your house," and that's it.

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Right.

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But

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this plot-

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Yeah.

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... is so big-

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Yep.

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... that if you are- if you are that loose with it, there would be so much evidence of this plot.

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I mean, you almost- you almost have to think if you're that loose with it, you don't want it to succeed.

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Mm-hmm.

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That's the only explanation for why you'd be like, "Hey, we're gonna kill

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everybody," to- to just anybody, to a doctor.

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Yeah.

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A doctor!

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They're just trying to freak him out or something.

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This isn't your- this isn't your person who, uh, wipes your ass for you.

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The groom of the stool.

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Yeah, absolutely. This is your doctor, the person who also goes to talk to other people all the time.

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You'd think.

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Nobody's gonna believe the guy who wipes your ass. "Oh, yeah. The

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wipe-ass guy always says that you're a bad person, but we know royals are good

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people. The doctor, you gotta trust him."

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Man.

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Hmm, crazy.

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So, um, uh, we come to the end of this, and, uh,

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I mean, we're all- I mean, a- a- Alex has cracked the case.

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(laughs) Yes.

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He's committed to this-

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That's right.

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... uh-

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Unless he's not.

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Unless he's not.

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Unless he's not.

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(laughs)

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I don't know. I- uh, I think this is sad. Um, but I do think there's something really funny

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about the way you can r- you can tell he's trying to adjust to new information.

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Yeah.

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Like, there is an ideal version of the narrative that he starts with-

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Yeah.

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... and then it gets eroded by the awareness of a fact, and he has to start adjusting

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and accommodating as the episode goes on.

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Yeah.

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Um, and that's, though, someone who's lying. That's a liar.

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Yeah.

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That's what the lie thing does.

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Yeah, it is- it is so much just the most obvious and transparent version of,

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"If I keep moving, you can't catch me."

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Yeah.

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You know? It's just that.

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Yep, and his audience, uh, uh, responds to momentum as opposed to, uh, anything real.

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Too late. Haven't heard that last thing, or maybe I did.

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Yep.

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Nobody knows! Nothing means anything.

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And he's super lucky.

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Yep.

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So we'll be back with another episode, but until then, uh, we have a website.

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Indeed we do. It's knowledgefight.com.

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Yep, uh, we'll be back. But until then, I'm Neo, I'm Leo, I'm DZX Clark. I am the mysterious professor.

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Woo, yeah! Woo, yeah, woo!

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And now here comes the sex robots.

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Andy in Kansas, you're on the air. Thanks for holding.

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Hello, Alex. I'm a first-time caller. I'm a huge fan. I love your work.

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I love you.