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Hello, Alex. I'm a first-time caller. I'm a huge fan. I love your work.
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Knowledge Fight.
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I love you.
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Hey, everybody. Welcome back to Knowledge Fight. I'm Dan.
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I'm Jordan.
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We're a couple of dudes who like to sit around
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and worship at the altar of Celene and talk a little bit about Alex Jones.
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Oh, indeed we are, Dan.
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Jordan.
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Dan.
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Jor-dan.
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Quick question for you.
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What's up?
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What's your bright spot today, buddy?
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Why don't you go first?
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Uh, my bright spot today is, uh, tennis.
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Tennis.
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Tennis.
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Tennis.
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It's the tennis, uh, finals.
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Mm-hmm.
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ATP Finals.
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Uh, Jannik Sinner versus Taylor Fritz.
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Whoo.
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Jannik Sinner is just out of this world right now.
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Okay.
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He's absolutely destroying everybody left and right.
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This is a new name for us-
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Yeah.
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... because it's kind of silly, and I think I would remember it.
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Yeah, yeah, yeah, he's an Italian.
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Okay.
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So, right now, the, uh, top of the sport are him and Carlos Alcaraz.
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Mm-hmm.
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Uh, and they're awesome, uh, to have, uh, top of the sport together, because they play in such a way, like,
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Jannik makes you look bad. Like, he hits the ball
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harder than you, he makes you look like a smaller person than you are.
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Yeah, yeah, yeah, it's like-
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Yeah.
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... it's, it's embarrassing.
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It is embarrassing. But Carlos makes himself look good.
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Hmm.
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Like, he does all kinds of fun-
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Does he make you look good, though?
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Uh, you know, if, if you hit a good shot, he makes himself
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look so much better by, uh, like doing something pretty.
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But he doesn't humiliate you in the process?
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No, no, no, no, he looks-
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Whereas this Italian fellow...
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You don't even get the chance.
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Yeah.
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You would love to play tennis with this guy, but it's already behind you.
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So, he's like the wrestling equivalent of, like, a squash match.
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Yeah, absolutely.
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Where it's just like, you're a job guy, you-
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Yep.
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... you don't get any offense in, oh, fuck you, I'm a beast.
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Yep. Yeah, and then whenever he plays Carlos-
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Mm-mm.
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... Carlos is the only person who can be pretty enough to defeat his force.
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It's a David and Goliath kind of thing.
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Uh, no, just, uh, uh, two, two
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platonic ideals of a philosophy in contest with each other.
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Hm.
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Uh, and, uh, trapped in a situation where one wins as much as the other.
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The poetry of sport.
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It's fascinating.
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Well, I'm glad.
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It's great.
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I'm glad you're enjoying it. I'm glad these, uh, these new folks are coming in to fill the spots-
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They're doing a great job.
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... uh, you know, b- emptied by the retirees like-
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Yep.
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... Agassi and, uh-
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Yep, yep.
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... Sampras.
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Sampras has been gone for a while. Michael Chang-
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Mm-hmm.
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... he's, he's calling it quits.
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Sure.
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Absolutely.
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Um...
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What's your bright spot?
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McEnroe.
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(laughs) Yep.
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(laughs)
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(laughs)
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Um, my bright spot is I'm going on vacation.
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Indeed you are.
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Yep, uh, I've, uh, we, we've been doing this show for a long time.
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Yep.
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And I take very few vacations, and so I'm going too. Um, and we've got some episodes that we've pre-recorded-
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Mm-hmm.
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... so they'll be coming out. Strange timing, given that all this, uh, nonsense is going on with Alex-
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Perfect timing.
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... but I think that actually this episode that we're gonna record is a solid argument for why
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I don't care. Uh-
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Good call.
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... that Alex should be put on a break anyway.
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Okay.
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(laughs) Um, and so maybe it is, it is the perfect time.
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Excellent.
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But given that, like, we just had the,
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the election, and Alex's auction, and, uh, you know, we're coming up on eight years of the show.
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Yeah.
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It's, uh, it's maybe time for a little battery recharge, reset.
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I think it's great.
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So...
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I think, I think the funniest part is, uh,
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the moment that, uh, or the first time Trump was elected, I left the country.
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Yeah.
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Second time, you're out of here.
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Yep.
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I love it.
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It's, uh, uh, the, uh, history rhymes.
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(laughs) Yeah, something like that.
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So, uh, we got an episode to go over today, Jordan. We're gonna be talking about, uh, the 20, or blah: the-
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Huh?
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... November 15th-
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Ah, okay.
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... 2024.
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All right.
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Uh, this is the day after it came out that the Onion had, uh-
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Right.
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... bought InfoWars (laughs) .
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Right. Jesus Christ.
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(laughs) So...
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What a day.
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Woo.
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(laughs)
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(laughs)
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What a rollercoaster.
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Wow.
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So, we'll get down to business on all this. But first, uh,
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let's take a little moment to say hello to some new Wonks.
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Ooh, that's a great idea.
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So first, Sammy the Space Corgi, engineer of the
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star cruiser Halcyon, thank you so much. You're now a PolicyWonk.
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I'm a PolicyWonk.
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Thank you very much.
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Thank you. Next, this is all caps, so pretend I'm yelling it.
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Okay.
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I AM A STUPID MORON WITH AN UGLY FACE AND A BIG BUTT
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AND MY BUTT SMELLS AND I LIKE TO KISS MY OWN BUTT. Thank you so much. You're now a PolicyWonk.
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I'm a PolicyWonk.
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Thank you very much.
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Thank you. Uh, next, THANK YOU TO ALL THE BROOKLYN LIVE
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SHOW WONKS WHO DONATED TO AND SHARED THE FUND FOR MY
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PARTNER'S TOP SURGERY. THE PROCEDURE
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WENT WELL AND HE'S HEALING ON SCHEDULE. YOU CHANGED OUR LIVES AND WE COULDN'T BE
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MORE GRATEFUL. Thank you so much. You're now a PolicyWonk.
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I'm a PolicyWonk.
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Oh, thank you very much.
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I feel like that is too nice and awesome coming off "I kiss my own butt."
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I think it's-
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The, the, the juxtaposition of those two-
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No, it was really important to me that I do that. Otherwise, we, we're gonna be lost in a, in a head space.
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For, uh, just a little bit of a peek behind the curtain-
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(laughs)
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... uh, if you want a shout-out, you can email, uh, knowledgefight@gmail.com.
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(laughs)
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Jordan compiles them, and I am cold reading them.
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(laughs)
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So that, uh,
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that was a j- that was a, a adjustment.
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That was jarring, yeah.
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Yeah. So, we also have a Technocrat, uh, in the mix, Jordan.
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Ooh.
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So, thank you so much to Natalie. AFTER 10 YEARS, I'M STILL
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DONKEY KONG/ KING KONG CRAZY ABOUT YOU. Thank you so much. You're now a Technocrat.
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I'm a PolicyWonk.
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Before it starts, go home to your mother and tell her you're brilliant.
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Someone, someone sodomite sent me a bucket of poop.
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Daddy Sharp. Bomp, bomp, bomp, bomp, bomp. Jar Jar Binks has a Caribbean
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black accent. He's a loser, little, little titty baby.
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I don't wanna hate black people. I renounce Jesus Christ.
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Thank you so much.
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Yes. Thank you very much.
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Um, so, uh, we're gonna jump right in here on, uh, the 15th. Uh, that's Friday.
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Yep.
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And, uh, here's, here's where Alex is at.
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All right.
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Ladies and gentlemen, (instrumental music plays) it is
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Friday,
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November 15th,
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2024.
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I am your host, Alex Jones.
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And
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right before I went live,
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I received some incredible information,
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and
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this, this information is a lot bigger than me, it's a lot bigger than you, it's about all of
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us, and it's just in- in- incredibly
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over the top
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incredible,
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and amazing,
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and devastating to the establishment.
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I'm,
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I'm coming to you from the backup studios at the Alex Jones Network.
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It is 11:09 Central Standard Time,
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and
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literally as I was going live on air, that's why we had some confusion,
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uh, I had to take some phone calls and confirm
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some things that have now transpired. We already knew a lot of it yesterday.
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We learned a lot more once I got off air last night.
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And then this morning, there has been a
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lot of activity, and you can see the headlines, uh, on RealAlexJones@X. You can see the headlines at
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the Alex Jones
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Network on X.
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But if, if I, I can just do an overhead shot, and I, I had, I had wanted to show
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the, uh, headline that was, uh, in there,
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um, from
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Bloomberg, and h- here it is for you.
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"Angry judge orders transparency..."
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Angry judge questions transparency
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of Onion bid for InfoWars.
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So, last we left off, Alex was in studio, desperate for someone to drag him out so he could make a
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scene and fulfill his, uh, Colonel Travis fantasies, but no one
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did. Eventually, when he realized that there wasn't any good
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content coming, he went over to the new
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studio, which he totally doesn't own, and started complaining over there.
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In the time since, the federal bankruptcy
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judge in Alex's case, Christopher Lopez, put the process, uh, on... of the sale on hold-
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Mm-hmm.
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... calling for a hearing to get to the bottom of what happened.
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Alex alleges hijinks and conspiracy, and for some reason, everyone in official positions feels the
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need to take his claim seriously. Since
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our last episode, there's been some reporting on the bidding process, and as it turns out, there were only
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two bidders even in the running on the day of the auction. There was The
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Onion and then there was a group that was on
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Alex's side, and for all intents and purposes, may as well have just been Alex.
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The group that was just Alex in disguise
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is a company called First United American Companies,
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LLC, who seem to only exist in order to run a website called shopalexjones.com.
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The first thing you might notice about the name is that the First United part, which is a naming convention of
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churches. It's a very interesting piece of an otherwise incredibly bland and stupid name.
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Whatever. (laughs)
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The physical address listed on shopalexjones, uh, that website, uh, is in
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Florida, but I can't find any listings with the Secretary of State
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that this is a business registered there, either as an entity name or as a doing business as alias.
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The same is true of First United American Companies, LLC.
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Hmm.
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The address on the site is a UPS Store, so obviously, that's a dummy
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location for receiving mail, not an actual brick-and-mortar
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business location. The business itself seems to be operated out of Texas, 'cause it's
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the Alex Jo- shop alex jones, you know? So I would
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assume they would be registered to do business there, but again,
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I can't find any records that reflect First United American Companies or shopalexjones.com on the
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Secretary of State of Texas' website.
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I'm not the best at forensically going
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through business records, so I kind of hit a dead end, but my suspicion here is that it's all related to Bigly,
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the company that runs the Alex Jones store.
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My guess is that pretty much this is all at the root of this, and all of that
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is powered through Shopify, which is a publicly traded company
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that probably doesn't want to be a part of a very transparent effort to evade
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a high-profile bankruptcy settlement involving
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causing emotional distress to grieving family members. So, maybe they, uh, should sh- shut this shit down.
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Maybe they don't want to be involved with this, Shopify. I don't know.
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Bleh. I, I mean, hey, anybody wanted to step up, feel free
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at any time. I feel like there's a vacuum available for
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the first person with any authority to be like, "Uh, no."
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Shopify does seem like a place where there's, like, a pressure point. Like, 'cause if those-
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Sure.
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... if those stores are not able to run
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through Shopify, all of that infrastructure and everything
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falls apart. And Alex, I don't think has another option
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of... Well, maybe there would be, but it, it doesn't exist at the present.
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Conservify, the
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R- Nazi version of Shopify.
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Probably doesn't have as good of processing and-
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I mean, probably not.
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... uh, reliability.
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Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
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So, that's why they use Shopify.
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They only use Bitcoin.
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In
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looking through some business records, I also came across the TectorS- uh, Secretary of State's filing
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for Alex Jones Network, LLC, which is a totally different company-
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Totally different.
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... from Alex's InfoWars.
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Completely different.
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He doesn't own it or anything.
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Not at all related to him.
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It's completely separate.
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In fact, I don't even know who Alex Jones is.
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Incidentally, the Alex Jones Network was filed as a business on September 15th, 2024, and the
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only person in the filing is the managing member, Chase Brendan Geyser.
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How about that?
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That's right. Chase's middle name is Brendan because of course it is.
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Because of course it is.
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Yeah. So, if you're keeping score, Alex's new
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network is owned and managed by his most sycophantic employee. His new pill
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operation sponsor is run by his dad and his brother-in-law, and his merch store is run by his
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knife guy who should probably be going to jail for assaulting a cop on January
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6th. This is all, like, comedic levels
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of obviously corrupt, and if there's no
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consequences for any of this, I'm gonna fuck around and turn into the Riddler.
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As it turns out, this very real company,
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First United American Companies, put in the highest bid in terms of a cash offer.
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Hmm.
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They bid $3.5 million, which makes me furious.
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If I knew it was gonna be that low, I still don't think I could have raised the money, but I would have tried.
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(laughs)
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I thought it was gonna be in the low eight figures, but I guess that very
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few people are actually interested in Alex's business. It only adds
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value to his co-conspirators, or to a business like The Onion, who wanna buy it as a pseudo-joke.
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Though they put in the highest cash bid, the trustee is not required to accept the highest
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bid, uh, in cash, but is required by a fiduciary
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duty to accept what is, in their judgment, the best
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bid for the creditors. In this case, some of the Connecticut plaintiffs decided to waive portions of their
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settlements, which has the effect of reducing the credit burden Alex has considerably. This
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lowering of the credit burden on Alex helps them, as the primary
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creditors, and also helps the other creditors that Alex owes money to because it makes them more
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likely to be paid off, as his overall burden is lower.
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This is a deal that the trustee can very easily justify accepting, and I don't think it'll have any problem
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if it i- gets heard in court. But it's perfect for a
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little bit of time-wasting and narrative-building, so we see that this is how Alex is gonna proceed.
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But, like, I, I think you could make a pretty solid argument
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that, like, you'd have a responsibility to accept this offer, even though the other one is higher in cash.
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Sure, sure. I mean, huh.
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Even just from a pure financial standpoint.
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Uh, hey, listen, I, e- why, why, why would anybody apply things that make sense to what has occurred?
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Mm-hmm.
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Has it worked in the past?
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I, I, I don't know. I, I can... All, that's all I can do, though.
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If a knife cannot cut a watermelon, is it a knife?
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Hmm.
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Then what's the point of using it to try and cut a watermelon?
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Have you ever seen that knife crafting show, the show where they make knives?
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Forged in Fire?
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I think so.
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I think so. I have.
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I think, uh, they, they, they, like, will
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s- you know, have you chop something, and some knives cut, some don't.
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Yeah, exactly.
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But it's still a knife.
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If you use the n- if the knife cuts-
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Yeah.
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... then it is a useful tool in this regard.
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But if, if it breaks, it's still a knife.
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It is still a knife, but it is, uh, not useful in this regard. So, in this sense, I imagine that applying
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reason, logic, and in fact, maybe the act- eg- actual interpretation of the law,
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normally a very useful tool, an extrem- extremely sharp knife-
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Mm-hmm.
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... appears to have no effect on watermelons these days.
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Mm-hmm.
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So, Lord knows what could happen.
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Yeah.
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I allow for the possibility of literal angels in the outfield to
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carry the judge to a place where he can say whatever he wants.
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It may happen.
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Yeah.
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And, uh, you know, hey, far be it from me, I've been
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wrong about, uh, pretty much every prediction I've made, so, like, uh, yeah, angels in the outfield.
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I'm gonna go with angels in the outfield 'cause I'm comfortable being wrong about that one.
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So, one thing that I think might happen, but also maybe not-
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Yeah.
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... is that Alex is probably trying to get himself in trouble, uh, with defaming the, uh, trustee.
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Good call.
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Uh, because he is straight-up accusing this dude of crimes.
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Great.
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So, now,
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uh, the, the documents have been turned over by the US
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trustee from the Justice Department of what they actually did, and it's way worse
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than what is even in the news. And I, I just started learning this at
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7:45 this morning, and, and I've been just d- w- going over all of this. And, and quite frankly,
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um, I, I am basically speechless,
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uh, right now.
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Um,
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I, I've also basically been, been, been authorized, you know,
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that, that yes, what I'm saying is, is, is completely accurate, on its face,
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on the record.
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And
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what is that?
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Um, what was done is cut and dry
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absolutely
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criminal.... in every aspect. Uh,
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and then right before I went live on air,
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a few minutes before, I got the news, and I got it from very good sources.
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I double-checked it, and...
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Any time you're in a new studio
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that you haven't been using, even though it's a nice studio and works well, there's, you know,
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issues and new crews working together, s- same old crew but m- mixed in, and, and there was little issues.
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And, uh-
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You mad at the new crew?
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I get really ready to launch before I go on air, and it's like a thought process starts going, and if there's
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one screw up at the start, I can handle it. Two, three, four, five, I, I, it starts getting to me. And I'm not
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mad, I'm just not at a place to be able to do the show right now, and I'm just being
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honest with viewers and listeners. I'm gonna have to
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get my composure, um, and I'm gonna have to relaunch the live show-
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Day one at the new studio (laughs) .
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I mean, it makes sense.
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Yeah.
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It is day one.
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Mm-hmm.
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Things are not gonna go perfectly.
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No, but they-
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It's day one.
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But they, th- they went exactly like they do on day 1,000 million at his-
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Ex- I mean, yeah.
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... old studio.
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Absolutely.
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Still gonna be furious about something not going right and have to restart the show.
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Take the day off-
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It would be good.
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... for God's sakes.
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So also, the US trustee, Chris Murphy, he needs to sue Alex.
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Alex is directly accusing him of committing crimes within the context of accepting this
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bid, which is defamatory. It has the potential to severely impact Murphy's public
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image and professional credibility, and if Alex can't back up his claims, he needs to be held responsible
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for this. What- whatever form that takes, what, uh, you know,
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w- whatever. Be-
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I mean, I hate to say it, but if I was Alex, I would defame the shit out of everybody.
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No!
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There's, what are you gonna do to me?
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Yeah, I w- I would do-
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Yeah, I would defame the shit out of people.
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I would understand that in his position.
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Yeah.
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But that is a situation where, uh, if everyone starts taking it very seriously-
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Sure.
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... then, uh, y- you will not be able to operate this smoothly.
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I'm sure.
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There wi- there will come a time if people stand up enough.
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Yeah.
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Uh, like-
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I mean, totally. I'm just saying that if I was Alex, I would just bet
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that you wouldn't, you know? Like, every, like, I'm gonna win most of the time.
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If he gets buried under a barrage of people being like, "I demand a retraction and an apology for this."
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Sure.
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"Uh, here's my lawyer," uh-
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Sure, sure.
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If he did-
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(laughs)
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... then his time would be spent on air
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making these retractions, clarifying things.
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People would see through, like, a lot of this facade, even if it doesn't end up bankrupting him through the,
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you know, through settlements and stuff like that.
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Maybe.
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There would be... Well, we'll see by the end of this, uh, what you think.
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I mean, maybe. I don't, I don't know anymore.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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I, I think that by the end of this episode, you might get a little bit of a sense that this could work-
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I'm, I'm excited then.
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... because Alex changes his tune considerably.
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I'm excited.
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So he has some big news, but like he said, he, uh,
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he's gotta go off air.
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Sure.
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Something's not working out. God's telling him to go off air.
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Yeah.
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Um, this is historic what's happened.
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I've not announced what's happened yet, what has been discovered, and
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I was almost not gonna cover it right away so I could think about it some.
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And, and then that must've been God telling me
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when everything that we did just wouldn't even go out over air. So
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I'm not meant to be on air right now. That's
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God, actually, that's God telling me that, that I, I shouldn't do the show right now.
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Um, and that's, that's what's gonna happen now. So, uh,
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we've got really important information and news while I'm reflecting. Might be five minutes. Might,
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I, I might not come back on today. Um,
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so
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that's just where we are. Um,
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so... I am trying my best here.
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You're doing good, man.
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You're doing good.
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This raises an interesting question-
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What's that?
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... I have for symbolism from, uh, God.
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Mm-hmm.
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All right? So God turns off the lights-
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Yeah.
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... right? And you go, "Well, God doesn't want me to have lights today."
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Obviously.
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Obviously. That makes sense.
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Mm-hmm.
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Now, my question is, is that a sign that you should listen to, right,
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that can be then... Like, he can turn the lights back on, but you still go,
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"I'm not supposed to have lights on today."
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Mm-hmm.
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Or is God determining the exact length that you can and cannot have lights on?
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You... I think that if you follow this train of thought too much, you can't do anything.
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Right.
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You can't really do... Like, everything is exactly as God wants it to be.
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Right.
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So you turning on the lights is corrupting how he wants you to be in the darkness.
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It makes sense.
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So if Alex were to fix the problems with the, uh, the broadcast-
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That's what I think.
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... then he is subverting God's will.
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That is what I believe, yes (laughs) .
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Yes (laughs) . Which, really, at a certain point, all you can do is sit in a room, I guess.
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I think God is telling Alex to sit in a room quietly.
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Everything in its natural state, devoid of any influence from you-
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Is quiet in a room (laughs) .
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That's what God wants.
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(laughs) .
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And if God doesn't want that, he'll change it.
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I like that.
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Yeah.
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I like that you've discovered inertia through God.
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Doof.
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(laughs)
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So Alex does go off air for a little bit.
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Okay.
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Then he comes back and he has some big news.
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All right.
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A- again, the, the, the, the Bloomberg headline you
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people think is shocking, 'cause I said this while the hearing was going on yesterday.
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Angry judge questions transparency of Onion bid for InfoWars.
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Um, no, he said the auction wasn't real and didn't happen.
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Odd thing for him to say.
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Judge calls The Onion's InfoWars takeover
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to review bankruptcy auction process.
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There is no spoon!
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(laughs)
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Y- you have to understand, that's not even the big news.
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That would normally be the big news. The Onion didn't buy
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InfoWars Wednesday.
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They didn't have an auction.
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They didn't pay money.
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They were given it.
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It was a sham
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on its face, prima facie.
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But that's not even the big news.
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Oh, my God. These aren't even the big news.
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He's got big news and these aren't even them. He's covering the not big news.
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All right, so here's what I'm thinking. Here's what I'm thinking was the mistake. You gotta pre-, uh,
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you gotta prenup, okay? So, like, if we're gonna do this process,
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I get that the trustee and the courts and all of them have, like, a
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l- way they do this thing. But what you gotta do is prenup with Alex and be like,
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"You tell me the exact circumstances under which you will not... You'll just shut the fuck up."
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Mm-hmm.
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"At the end of this process, I don't care what they are. Fucking you make 'em.
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Clown cars, I don't give a shit. At the end of it, you will shut up, won't you?"
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Hmm.
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And they'll write it down that you have to shut up.
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But there w- there won't be something.
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Right, but then whenever they don't
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shut up at the end of it, we don't even have to have a hearing or anything. They'd just go like, "Ah, ha ha,
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shut up." They ha- we have the shut-up paper. It's like a deal with the devil.
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But there is, there is no, like, uh, terms that Alex is gonna agree to that'll be like, "And then I'll shut up."
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That's the answer to your own question then! If he's not going to agree to any terms-
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There is no stake. No.
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If he's not going to agree to any terms, then there's no point in bothering with terms!
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I guess.
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Just call him out on it! Either sign the document that
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you're willing to take responsibility for this process, or you don't get the process.
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It's a sweetheart deal just for Alex.
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Mm-hmm.
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I'm the devil.
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Okay.
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I figured it out.
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All right.
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I think I am the devil.
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Okay.
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All right.
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You're making a compelling case.
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I think I've got it.
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Have you been
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showing Alex clocks lately?
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Okay, now,
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people say that that's wrong.
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Mm-hmm.
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All right?
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People have some-
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To make it, to mess with his head like that-
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Yeah.
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... and to tell him what time it is in the middle of the night.
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Yeah.
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And then tell him it's God telling him that.
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And then tell him when to stop peeing. (laughs)
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That's what I, that's what I just find fun.
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Yeah.
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(laughs)
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Eh, we gotta get through how we get through.
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Yeah.
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So those aren't the big stories.
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Mm-hmm.
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Those aren't the, that's not the big news.
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Yeah.
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Uh, real, real pump fake kind of, uh-
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Right, right, right, right.
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Uh, so here's the, the big news.
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There's really three big stories I'm about to break that affect everybody.
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And, and the first one is, Trump's taking the gloves off.
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Elon Musk is taking the gloves off.
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Dog bites man.
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And the other two
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are about what has been discovered and what has happened, and
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what has already been
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done
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about 25 minutes ago.
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Man bites dog. (laughs)
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Now, I told the bad guys yesterday, and I put up videos last night before this was
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100% confirmed.
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I mean, the corruption, th- th- that there wasn't an auction, that it was bid collusion,
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felonies, all that's just open and shut done.
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Red-handed. Rats leaving a sinking ship, turning on each other, already ha- that happened today.
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So he's definitely accusing some crimes there.
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Yeah.
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But, uh, the, I like that what happened
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25 minutes ago is a real, you've already ingested the poison, Mr. Bond.
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I like it. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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(laughs)
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I like it quite a bit. (laughs)
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I've already hit the doomsday switch.
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(laughs) It's, the, the antidote is right here, now give me the diamond.
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Yeah.
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Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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So the three big stories, uh, are Alex whining about his own persecution a bunch, and him saying that his
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big, strong father figures, Trump and Musk, are once again taking the gloves off.
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Seems like these gloves keep on coming off. (laughs)
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So weird.
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Yeah.
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Why bother putting them back on all the time?
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I would, I would love it if one day Alex was like, "All right, here's the big news.
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Trump's putting the gloves back on." (laughs)
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I, no, no, no. I think they should be-
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'Cause they have to be getting put back on.
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I'm saying there should be a constant glov-o-meter-
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Right.
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... of how on or off the gloves are at any given point in time.
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Like a color-coded terror meter.
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Absolutely.
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Yeah.
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Do we have a, do we have a single Michael Jackson glove scenario?
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Uh-oh, uh-oh. Mittens, we got mittens.
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Oh, shit. Oh, shit, the nuclear codes are open.
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Yeah. We got, uh, oh, ooh. Al, uh, we got, uh, uh, fingerless-
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(laughs)
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... biker gloves.
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(laughs) Threat level workout gloves.
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Yeah, yeah. That's serious.
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(laughs)
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So, uh, like, n- in terms of the vote collusion thing, uh,
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that Alex is talking about, that he's accusing the other side of-
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Yeah.
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... I was thinking about this a little
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bit, and I wanted to play a little moment from our last episode, when Alex called Steve Bannon out of the blue.
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Okay.
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Just listen to this little section again.
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Yeah.
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Dude, what the fuck is this story here? I thought Bannon-
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Hey, hey, hey, hey. Hey, hey, Steve.
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So, I pointed out last time that, "What the fuck is the story?" That could have a
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lot of different meanings. And that it was too bad that Alex cut Bannon off.
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Alex was clearly trying to make sure that Bannon didn't say anything that he
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shouldn't say on air, thinking they were just on the phone. But I think Alex was too late.
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If you really listen to that clip carefully, as I did-
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Yep.
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... over and over again, just before, and while Alex is cutting him off, Bannon says, "I thought Roger-"
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Yep.
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... before Alex drowns him out.
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Mm-hmm.
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Bannon was saying that he thought Roger was buying InfoWars, and he clearly knows that
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Alex has information about what the fuck the story is.
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Bannon's tone in that moment belies that he knows that Alex knows about the bids.
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Yeah.
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If Alex hadn't cut him off and told him they were
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on the air, there's a good chance Bannon would have said something even more damning, uh, uh, for
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Alex's whole pretense that he's putting on of being uninvolved.
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Yeah.
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Like, there's...
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I mean, he might as well have been like, "I thought when we talked about this, Roger
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was going to purchase InfoWars using the money that
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you gave him that you're not supposed to
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have, so you can continue owning the thing that you're not supposed to own."
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Right.
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He might as well have said that.
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Now, I think it would be really funny if Roger
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had ended up buying InfoWars and then being like, "Joke's over, dude."
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(laughs)
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"I got you on a contract.
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Fuck off, I'm your boss now."
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"Now it's time to really buckle down and get to work."
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Right. There's like a (singing)
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kind of like sound or whatever-
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(laughs)
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... and Roger puts on a top hat-
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Yeah.
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... and he's like, "Now I'm in my"-
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Finally.
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... "supervillain form."
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Finally.
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Alex.
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Gets his monocle out.
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"So nice to meet you, Alex."
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"Oh, did you know that I've been bored recently?"
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(laughs)
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(laughs)
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"Did you take me seriously, Alex?"
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(wheezing laughter)
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Uh, I also think it would be really funny if since Chase Kaiser kind of owns-
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Yeah. Oh, again, also very funny. Very funny.
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... uh, Alex Jones' network, if he just decided to, like, be like-
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Yep.
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... "Fuck you, Alex."
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Yep. Yeah, you have-
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"I'm your boss now." (laughs)
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"You have put my name in official documents which you think
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still does not make them official, but I can choose to make them official."
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Mm-hmm.
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That's how official works.
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Yeah.
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You have given me the keys to your car.
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Y- you cannot own this company legally.
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Yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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And that's why you used me on this document.
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Right. Right, right, right.
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And now, I have leverage over you.
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And your real threat to me is twofold. It is either you can fire me, which, no you cannot.
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Uh-huh.
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Or, you can hurt me, which is against the law.
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In a real way, as opposed to the other ones that we've been dealing with.
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He, he's g- Alex has got to be real comfortable that Chase is a real dipshit.
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Totally.
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Like, and on board-
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I mean-
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... for him to go that-
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... why-
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Like, 'cause why not use Rob Dew? Or why not, like there's a
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l- whole lot of other people that are just as closely associated with Alex that you'd think he trusts more.
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Ugh. I mean-
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Very weird.
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If, if, as people theorized way back, when we first met, uh, Brendan-
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Mm-hmm.
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... uh, which is what I'm gonna call him, uh, uh, that he was somehow a double agent, owning
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one of the major money-making operations and still allowing Alex to have it
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kinda turns all that to shit.
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Yeah. I, I don't know what the reveal would be, uh-
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I own all of your stuff and I'm burning it, or like the Joker-
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Right.
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... I'm burning the bottom half-
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Bottom half.
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... of the pile of money.
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But I don't know what you could be waiting for-
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Yeah, that's a fair point.
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... at this point. You know, like-
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No, no, exact, oh, no, yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah, you're totally right.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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So, uh, the night before this, they had, uh, something of a hearing. And, uh, Alex has heard
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that there's a criminal investigation that's been opened-
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All right.
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... about
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the, the steel. They stole his company from him.
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To- to, wait, wait, wait. The, the, the steel?
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The fake auction.
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Oh, shit.
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Then the hearing happens. Goes on for a couple hours.
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My lawyers, other lawyers, Musk lawyers, they're all there.
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"We need time to go over the transcripts, look at this to make sure what we saw actually happened."
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Then Murray gives the documents to the highest bidder, which he's supposed to do by law, finally.
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They actually get what he did,
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pledging my future earnings. That those, those cases are in appeals.
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You can't pledge somebody's earnings if you've won the case.
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And the Supreme Court said Jones is, you know, liable. That hasn't happened. But you can't pledge that.
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In 13th Amendment and a bunch of other laws.
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I'm sorry?
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And we learn
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at 8:00 at night
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what h- just how bad it was.
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Then I learn
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from individuals
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high up,
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multiple sources, that there's major interest in this by President Trump,
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and by Elon Musk. Then my lawyers start getting calls,
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and other lawyers start getting calls,
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from the media, saying they hear this, and that there is a criminal investigation of this already going on
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by the federal government in Houston.
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Then I get more calls this morning.
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And
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the people involved
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have now
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reached out
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and said, "We didn't know this was illegal. We were told to do this.
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We'll give you everything. We don't want to go to prison."
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Fun.
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Then I get the call
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that the judge could do an emergency hearing now today,
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and a lot more I'm not gonna get into yet.
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And then three minutes before we go live...
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This has been going on for hours, I hadn't been told, 'cause people were busy.
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The US trustee, Chris Murray, calls and says, "Look-"
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I made a mistake.
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We shouldn't have shut down InfoWars.
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It happens.
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We shouldn't have turned off the broadcast.
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The judge said I didn't have the authority.
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You can go back to your studios, we're putting InfoWars back up. Now let's put it on screen.
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Infowars.com is back up live. If that isn't proof, everybody, what I'm saying here, there it is.
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Um, it's not proof of, uh, of that. But, uh, so we now have, uh,
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the trustee has called and apologized, and said, "We made a mistake, oh no." He has,
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Alex has people calling and being like, "Oh, we'll give you everything. We're flipped. Oh, no!"
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Who, who are those people who have flipped
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and are gonna tell him everything? They just don't wanna go to prison. Who are those people if not
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pr... Like, he's trying to imply that it's the trustee.I, I feel like
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I am more than aware that the prisons are overpopulated.Mm-hmm.However, I am also
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fairly certain they are not overpopulated with trustee-related offenses.Yeah.
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Yeah, probably not.Yeah.Um, also, the trustee didn't do anything
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bad in this case.Sure. Well, we don't know that yet until there's been a criminal investigation by
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Elon Musk, okay?True, that is true, yes. The, uh,
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the federal government that is not under the control of Trump yet,
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uh-Right.... is going to get to the bottom of this on Alex's behalf-Right.... uh, because
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Trump won the election.Right.Um, this is
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dumb. Uh, and, uh, Alex, when he has to, uh,
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present something that justifies this idea that there is a criminal investigation-Yeah.... it's a guest
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on Steve Bannon's podcast saying there should be.Hey, there you go.That's what that
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comes down to.There you go.So, cool.Okay, that's an interesting, that's an interesting thought
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process, all right? So, uh, you're, you're President Trump.
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Uh, you've got all the Republicans that you need to do this stuff.
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How... Can you
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pitch a flyer
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where you allow Alex Jones to rewrite laws about Alex Jones?Yes.So, like, so
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Alex gets to write all Alex-specific laws
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that only apply to him. Like, in the bankruptcy process, Alex Jones gets to keep all Alex Jones-related
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Alex Jones materials, because Alex Jones, blank.I feel-You know what I'm saying?I feel like
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the history has shown that he is a colossal asshole.True.And
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maybe o- one, uh, uh, on a level that no one has ever dealt with
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or we're not accustomed to seeing.Sure, sure.So,
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maybe what you do is you say, "All right,
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you get to make up your own rules, but none of it sets a precedent."Right, right.Just-It's
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just you.Yeah.You have a weird Get Out of
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Jail Free card.But it doesn't apply to other
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people.Nope.Like, whatever-Uh-uh.... ends up happening
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in the courts, other people might still get... You are just, like,
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we have to
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pretend that your reality is real-Absolutely.... or else you're gonna bother
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us.Absolutely. There's, like, a force field around you
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of, of like, you have the black diamond law
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card.Mm-hmm.Nobody, people just don't fuck with you anymore.Yeah.They're just, like,
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fine.I, I feel like Trump could do that.That'd be an interesting thought, uh,
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experiment.But he might not.Which is the danger.Because
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Alex apparently got a little bit chewed out-Uh-oh.... on the morning of the 15th-Uh-oh.... by Trump
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and Musk. (laughs) Apparently, they are upset that he got bought by The Onion.Oh my God.
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And I'm not gonna say any more, but let's just say
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Trump and Elon Musk
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are, have already met about this,
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and
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I got chewed out, actually, yesterday morning.
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Because they didn't understand exactly what was going on, and
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they, you know, nice folks who were, say, behind the scenes, you know,
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f- f- folks were like, "W- what do you need?" And, and
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I s- and I, and I'd already told them, I said, "This is all
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rigged, and I'm not gonna..." You know, I said, "It'd just be better if you wanna
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help launch this big network and stuff,"
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which
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we're ready to do,
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"let's just wait,
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and let's let this process play out." I said, "I've got a gut
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feeling they're gonna bite off more than they can chew."
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And, uh,
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so the, the, the, the, the, the big dogs did not enter this.
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So, if you're understanding what Alex is claiming about himself here, he
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rigged the auction.Yeah.He told people
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not to bid.Yep.Someone like an Elon Musk, or a representative of Elon Musk, "Don't ar- bid on this. Put the
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money into the business that I'm creating." I feel like it might be illegal.I, I
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mean, sure. My question is, all right, so
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these people are chewing Alex out. Why?Hmm.My
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question is why?Oh, well, Alex does kind of explain that. Uh, h- he...
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See, this is where it's like, okay, none of this is real.Right.So,
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it doesn't make sense from a human motivation.Sure.But Alex is like,
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"These people thought that I was in on it
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with the bu- The Onion buying my company."Oh.And that's why they were chewing him
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out, because, uh-Interesting.... he predicted that they would, uh, steal the auction-Right.... and rig
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it and all this.Right.And so because he was so smart and knew what was gonna
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happen, he must have been in on the plot.
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Which doesn't make any sense-That sounds insane.... and very stupid.Yeah.Uh,
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but it's how Alex rationalizes it.That does make
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more... That makes sense from an Alex standpoint.Mm-hmm.I was just thinking from, like, a, a
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chewing-out standpoint, because then the thought occurred to me that, are they
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relying on Alex for credible information about the present day?No.You know what I mean? Like, if you
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wanna know what's going on, you would call the
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lawyer, and you would be like... Even if you talked to Alex, you'd be like, "Alex lied to me about this.
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What is going on?" Right?Mm-hmm.So, there's no point in chewing out
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Alex. What, is he gonna tell the truth?No, but it might just be
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fun.There's a, I mean, it might be fun just to yell at Alex.Yeah.Yeah, no.You're gonna get, uh, uh,
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the exchange you're gonna have with him is gonna be different than if you're talking
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to a lawyer, and maybe you just need a charge.That's fair.You know? Maybe you're having
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a, maybe, a, yeah, you had your second
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cup of coffee and you're feeling crazy.See? Now,
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that's the human motivation that makes sense to me.Yeah.Yeah.It's a show.Yeah,
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if they just wanted to yell it out. If he's
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like, "Hey, they just wanted to yell at me 'cause I
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fucked up," then that would make sense to me, yeah.Yeah.Yeah.So, I, I, I,
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I heard this clip, and I, I, I mean, I don't really have anything to say
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other than, like, imagine it's someone other than Alex
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saying this.Okay.And think about how worried you would be about their wellbeing.Okay.
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A, a, a fake auction for a fake purchase.
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Not just that they didn't get the purchase. The media said they got it, as the judge said.
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No, no, I mean it wasn't even real money that they put
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at a lesser amount to get it. I mean, that's, like, perfect.
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Like, perfect inversion. Like, God is perfect, and Satanism is inversion. It, it, it, it's like
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they, they, everything is a lie. Everything is BS. It's, it's a work of art. I- it's like,
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how do you c... I mean, and I get why with other people this works, because it's just,
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it's like New York Times articles. I
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use this one all the time 'cause there's been so many, but it's, it's, it's like,
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"Oh, I worked for Alex Jones. It was terrible," or whatever. And, and
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then it's like, you read it, and 99% isn't true.
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And, but it's this elaborate fantasy land of lies and twisted
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BS, and you're, it's so complex. And
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you're reading it about yourself going, "Is any of this... No, none of that ever happened. What?
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What?"
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Jones walks into the
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coffee room and grabs the Black woman's ass, and says, "I wanna have babies and marry you."
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Okay.
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What?
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Zero happened.
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Jones was mad at employees for not working
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hard, so he walked up to a fish tank, called them into a conference room, and grabbed the
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goldfish out and ate it, and said, "Get to work." And I went, that's the, the
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Wolf of Wall Street, any idiot would... I mean, they literally, they're like, "Let's put Wolf of Wall
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Street in there." And they go, "Wait, it's better."Let's add Finding Nemo.
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The fish was about to be given
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to
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that employee's niece.
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There was never a fish tank in the building.
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What is happening right now?
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There was no fish being eaten. There was no niece.
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(laughs)
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When you read that, and it's some kind of... I think the CIA must be writing these or something, because
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when you really read it, you're sort of going,
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"Those are movies." They know everybody already knows about Wolf of Wall Street.
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They already know about Finding Nemo, but they don't remember
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when you read that, people feel like they've seen that before. All right?
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Oh, yeah, eat the goldfish. Oh, yeah, it was for the niece. And the whole
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thing is about F- Finding Nemo, you know, the- the- the fish, you know, being grabbed for the niece.
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And- and- and that... and then you start reading other articles by other people, and you see, wait,
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that's from a movie. That's from a movie.
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Yeah.
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That's from a movie.
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Yeah.
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So they're not just plagiarizing.
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I- I figured it out. They're doing that because
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people who are unconscious, and most the public's now in kind of a mesmerized near sleep level. There's
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studies out on that. All the TV and stuff, everyone kind of ugh, kind of NPCs.
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Sure.
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An NPC reads that and goes, "Yeah."
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Yeah, 'cause their brain has seen that.
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Uh-huh.
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Their brain
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knows somebody ate the fish.
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That was the nieces.
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Uh-huh.
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And you're like, "Wow."
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Wow indeed. Um, so Josh Owens' article
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from the New York Times didn't claim that Alex ate someone's goldfish.
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Sure.
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He claimed that Alex threw someone's goldfish in the trash. From the article, quote,
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"Once a coworker stopped by the office with a pet fish he was taking home to his niece.
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It swam in circles in a small transparent bag.
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When Jones saw the bag balanced upright on the desk in the conference room, he emptied it into a garbage
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can." Alex has changed the allegation of this to he
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ate it, so he can claim that the CIA is just attacking him with movie plots.
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Alex creates fake versions of the claims against him because they're straw
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men that are easier to attack. Instead of dealing
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seriously with the complaints brought by
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the Sandy Hook families, for example, Alex pretends that he was accused of peeing on a child's grave. It's an
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accusation no one made, but he feels comfortable defending himself about because
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he is definitively innocent of that.
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If he were to deal with the real substantive complaints about his behavior and
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coverage, he would not have that shield of being definitively innocent, which is a fundamental part of his,
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"Woe is me. Everyone hates me for being too good," shtick.
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This entire righteous indignation is mostly just him being righteously indignant about
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fake things no one's accusing him of.
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He operates this way because he's a moral coward. But also, if you do listen to that last clip, the way that
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I, uh, set it up, imagine it's someone else saying those things,
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you would rightly think that they were severely paranoid and they needed help.
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"I figured it all out. The CIA is writing fake stories to make me look bad. And in order to
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trick everyone into believing them, they use the plots of fake... uh, the-
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the- the plots of movies. On a completely unrelated story, let me tell you about how
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God has granted me superpowers that
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weirdly mirror plot points from the Matthew McConaughey
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movie Interstellar." Like, th- this is a person who
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you should not
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look at as anything other than tragic.
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(inhales deeply) It is a testament to the way we interact with people depends first upon their baseline.
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Mm-hmm.
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You know? Like,
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this i- this is your baseline behavior, so this
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in this direction is crazy and in this direction is, you know... Whereas with Alex, if your baseline is this,
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everybody's like, "No, no, no. That's just him."
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Mm-hmm.
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"You don't gotta worry about that."
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Well, I think-
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Well, it's a weird-
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Any-
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... societal trait we have.
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I want... I think that anybody who actually listens to his show is acclimated to this.
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Yeah.
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And will hear him talk about the CIA writing
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these articles about him based on movies in order to trick people-
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Yeah.
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... and all this, and they'll be like,
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"Whoa." And then everybody else doesn't listen to his show so they don't know he says this shit.
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Right.
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(laughs) And everyone is just like... They don't realize that this is crazy-
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This is the baseline.
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... but it's also normal.
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Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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Yeah.
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This is the baseline.
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Yes. (laughs)
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They think that he's, he's turning the frogs gay-
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Yeah.
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... is the baseline.
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No.
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Wrong- wrong baseline, fellas.
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No. Be- the turning the frogs gay is deeply respectable-
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Yeah.
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... on the Alex scale-
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Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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... of things. (laughs)
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Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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It's him operating almost at the top of his intelligence.
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I- I agree.
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Yeah. (laughs)
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Now, here's another theory that I've just come up with. All right? What if,
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uh, he
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genuinely
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does not know how to read
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in such a way
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that all he does is scan for certain code words, then
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because this code word does exist, he correlates that to an image that he remembers from a movie?
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Yeah.
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Thus creating an article that does include actual movie plots
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because he can't actually read the words.
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So he figures by putting this word in here, he's filling in the blank with the plot.
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It's possible, but then you'd also have to add on, uh, like another layer of, like,
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he always makes mistakes in the same direction.
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Mm.
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Like, he never ends up reading an article that reminds him of a movie that challenges his belief-
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That's a good point.
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... or anythi- he never has to, like, wrestle with anything.
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True.
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So I think there's a denial element to it, too, even if there is-
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Totally.
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... whatever that is you're describing.
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Absolutely.
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So I got kinda bored because we're here, uh, this-
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this, uh, day after Alex's business gets bought, uh, by a joke site-
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Yep.
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... and, uh, it's just him complaining and talking about himself. And I'm like, "Just give me something."
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Mm-hmm.
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Give me anything. And thankfully we get, uh, something.
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Mm.
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Here is the clip. Project Veritas released undercover video of UN manager admitting that war is
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only a way to make serious cash, and that lazy
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staff were rooting for warmonger Nikki Haley to be president over Trump. The United Nations
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manager of peacekeepers has said the
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quiet part out loud, yeah, the peacekeepers are
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the warmongers. Uh, this is powerful, the full report is going up on InfoWars.com
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now. Back up, there was... the sale did not go through, it was not a real auction.
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This has red flags all over it. Like, why is Nikki Haley's candidacy coming up in this story? Like, it feels
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very out of date, or at very least, it seems like that's kind of an indication that this story
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is not a bombshell. This is a clip that was released by the
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new Project Veritas, now with 100% less James O'Keefe.
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So Alex really shouldn't, uh, think they're putting out good patriot content.
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Right.
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They're supposed to have been taken over by the globalists who forced O'Keefe out, but I guess
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who gives a shit about character consistency or object permanence?
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When I heard Alex bring this clip up, I thought, "Who cares?"
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Yeah.
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It makes total sense that someone at the
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UN could say that war has a financial aspect to it and people often make more money off war than peace.
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Yeah.
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That's not surprising in the least. So it seems like this was just gonna be a standard Veritas dud.
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Yeah.
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However, when he actually played the clip, I was baffled by this. This was nuts.
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So people, uh, employed at the UN that actually don't work.
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At the point at which we put every single day in the, in the building, ?????????
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Really?
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A lot of lazy people.
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Really?
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It's an environment where, again, you have a lot of the time, a stable job,
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you're not gonna be fired, you also don't get evaluated.
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I mean, the only way you make money in the UN is if you, like, go to war.
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You work for a country,
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you get,
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you get, you get paid more.
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Really?
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Hazard pay............................ you could die, they're gonna pay you more.
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It's amazing, right?
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So this guy was saying that people who work at the UN in lower level roles can become somewhat complacent
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since he feels there aren't a ton of reviews or possibilities for advancement and you have a stable job.
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The way that one would get a pay raise would be to serve in an area where
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you would get hazard pay, like at country at war.
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Like, this is such a perfect encapsulation of what's wrong with the conspiracy
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ecosystem that Alex is the face of. There is a real
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serious problem about war profiteering, and it's something that we need to address if we want any
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chance at a decent future for all of humankind. Too many
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companies have financial incentives that are not served by peace, like
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some of the companies run by noted defense contractor Elon Musk, and we need to not be naive about this.
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But this undercover video is a guy expressing that he feels the only way to get slightly better hourly rates
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as a low-level employee at the UN is to be serving in a dangerous
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area. This is not him expressing, like, a motive to exacerbate or
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continue wars, which is what Alex wants to present this video as being evidence of.
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It's a pathetic misuse of information that actually serves to make it more difficult
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to address the real problem it's pretending to be concerned about. And that
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is so indicative of the way Alex, uh,
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operates.
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Yeah.
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And that, that's why I felt like this was, like, a shocking clip. Uh,
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i-i-it, why would you do this?
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I find it fascinating that they, like, just got a regular old exit interview clip.
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Mm-hmm.
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You know what I mean? Like, this is, like,
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"Hey, I put in my two weeks' notice," and they're like, "Okay, tell us about your experience
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working here, there, anything." There's no opportunity
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for advancement and I feel like the only way to get a raise is through, uh, hazard pay.
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A lot of people aren't working as hard as they could be-
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Yeah.
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... because you just, you know, you get, uh, in a rut. You're, uh-
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Government waste.
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Yeah.
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I don't know what to tell you.
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Hmm.
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You know? Like, and then we'd all go, like,
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"Yeah, that sounds about right! I feel like that sounds about right!"
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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I've been in jobs where hazard pay is a thing.
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Yeah, makes sense.
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And I, like, I understand what this per- like, i- it reveals such a, um,
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l- like,
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w- when you play this clip in the context that Alex is trying to use it in-
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Yeah.
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... it reveals so much about how fraudulently you operate.
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Yeah.
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And to me, I just, I feel like it's worse than not doing it. But it doesn't matter. The people-
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I mean-
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Like, the people who are the consumers for the Veritas-type, uh-
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Yeah.
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... media, they won't even recognize, probably, that this is what this guy is talking about.
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Yeah.
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They'll just think, "UN admitted they start wars for money."
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They're primed, they're primed to
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believe a thing, and then they're given a,
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a sound effect that will give them, you know-
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Yeah.
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... comfort there, you know?
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And to not engage with that sound effect critically.
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Right, right, right. 'Cause you, 'cause you don't need to.
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Mm-hmm.
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What they need to do is tell you what you wanna hear and then give you a sound effect.
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Right.
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You know? Like, that's-
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It's a bummer.
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Yeah. Eh.
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So, uh, Alex, uh, I told you earlier in the show, you might get a different, uh,
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perspective on, uh, people suing him.
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Sure.
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Uh, and I think that this next clip is where that begins to become clear.
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Okay.
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Because obviously someone told Alex to shut the fuck up.
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All right.
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Uh, he cannot s- say these things about the trustee-
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He did get chewed out.
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Yes.
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All right.
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And they just had this fake auction
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that was a private secret sale masquerading as an auction. Now,
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let me just say that's my opinion,
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and it was my opinion last night that
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I would be giving InfoWars back
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and that we would be put back on the air, because I could
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see what the judge said. I could read the news articles that had quotes of him, I could talk
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to my lawyers that were there. And he said this wasn't an auction
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and we gotta have a hearing on this. So, if that wasn't an auction, they didn't get InfoWars.
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Now, I'm not a lawyer, that's my opinion. Well, now that's admitted.
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So then does that mean down the road something might happen? Does that mean the judge
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might just be sick of it and say, "Shut it down"? That could even happen.
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Uh, d- does it mean they're gonna have another auction?
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Does it mean they're gonna say, "Well, the real highest bidder
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got it?" That's probably what everybody thinks should happen in the law.
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I don't know, that's my opinion of what might happen.
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Um...
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You know, Chris Murray's, the, the trustee's lawyer was calling up my lawyers
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and saying, "Oh, Jones is saying Chris Murray apologized, you know, to him." He didn't do that.
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I, like, I said a lot of stuff in the first hour on, on the teleprompter,
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and I haven't gone back and reviewed it, but that, that was not my intent either.
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(laughs)
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He said to me on the phone in front of Bob yesterday, and he told
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Bob, "Oh, I'm, you know, I know, I'm sorry this is a bummer or whatever, but
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no hard feelings." Not like, "I'm sorry for what I did," but, you know, "I'm, you know, I'm sorry
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this is a big hassle for you. I know, no hard feelings." And he s-
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that's what I remember him saying. I, I got it recorded. I mean, we'll, we'll
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see if that was exactly what I s- what was said.
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But that's what they're calling up about saying isn't true.
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Oh, okay, so did you, d- d- what else w- was
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wrong? 'Cause you can come on, Chris Murray. I got your number, I can call you. Would you like to come on?
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Right now. Come on the show. And I mean, I mean that.
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So this is an amazing moment. This is Alex realizing in real time and on-air that he can't just
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make up whatever he wants about the trustee with no consequences.
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Alex has directly alleged on this episode that Chris Murphy
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called him and apologized about the sale and said, "We made a mistake.
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G- g- give you InfoWars back." This is Alex alleging that Murphy admitted to fraud, which is why Alex, uh,
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has, uh, uh, that's what he's accused him of-
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Yeah.
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... on this show.
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Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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Alex clearly got a message from his lawyer that he needs to cut that out. So now you hear this mealymouthed
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bullshit. The apology and admission of guilt is maybe now just the guy being polite.
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Alex has tapes, but he's not gonna play
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them. Murphy can come on the show and clear his name by letting Alex use him as a prop for this publicity
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stunt. It's, why wouldn't he do that? That must mean I'm right.
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Yeah.
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(laughs) This is so sad.
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Yeah. Yeah. Alex is probably like, "Man, if Norm was a
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bankruptcy lawyer, I wouldn't have to deal with this shit."
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Hm.
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Ugh.
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But this i- this i- is-
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That's a buffer.
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This is what you could hear a bunch of-
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Yeah.
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... if people were just like, "All right, uh, lawyer time.
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I'm going..." Uh, uh, obviously people can't afford
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to do that, but some pseudo public figures and legal folks
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can. So maybe the trustee here is in a particular situation where they're able to be like,
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"You can't say that shit about me."
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I mean, yeah. Somebody was watching.
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Yeah.
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Somebody was watching. They're wrong.
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Uh, and that's, uh, maybe,
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maybe that's the answer. Just constantly, like, uh, ask for, uh, demand retractions (laughs) of stuff.
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Man, I'd rather give him the fucking black diamond law card.
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Yeah.
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Jesus Christ.
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So, Alex has a guest on.
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Uh-huh.
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And he's a general, he's a Flynn.
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Oh.
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He hangs out with Papa John.
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Man, I was, for some reason in be- in the back of my head I was like, "This is the right time
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for Stubblebine," forgetting that he is dead.
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He's, he's dead.
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He's l- long dead.
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Yep.
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Yeah.
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He's hanging out with the aliens.
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Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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So, uh, Flynn is on, and, uh, I don't really give a fuck.
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Oh.
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Uh, but he says something that I just thought was really weird.
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There's going to be some, some bumps. Trump is going to experience some bumps. But don't let those bumps,
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you know, stop our forward momentum.
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So I want people to understand, we've broken through the hedgerows. We're gonna push, we're gonna
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push these guys back, but we cannot declare victory over Europe
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just yet. I love the fact that Trump is
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operating out of Mar-a-Lago. The fact that he's operating out of Mar-a-Lago
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personally, for me, makes, uh, makes me feel better for his own security.
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So, to be totally clear, Flynn u- is using the Battle of the Hedges just after, uh, the D-Day invasion-
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Yeah.
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... as a metaphor for where we are in the fight. I guess the
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first administration was D-Day, or maybe that was the 2024 election, but this
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period here before Trump gets back in office
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is the Battle of the Hedges where we're breaking through the hedges. That's all
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good and well, but why does Flynn think that the objective of the United States in World War
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II was to declare victory over Europe?
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There was one side that wanted to do that, and that was Hitler's side.
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(laughs) The US was on the side of the European allies who had been invaded by the Nazis.
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This is a weird insight into his mind. "Let's not declare victory over Europe (laughs) yet."
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I mean, it does make sense if you track his ideology from Nazi Germany through America.
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Mm-hmm.
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No, that's what I'm saying, is it's strange that that insight, uh-
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Ah, I mean, you know.
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It's, it's, it's a, it's revealing a little.
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It, it, yeah, it's like, my grandfather was a Nazi
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scientist. I, but, I mean, I don't know how he got h- to America.
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Hm.
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You know, like one of those things.
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It was just, it was-
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(laughs)
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... legal immigration.
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Yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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So, um, fuck Flynn. Don't care, uh, about him.
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Mm-hmm.
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And, uh, he's not saying anything all that interesting.
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Mm-hmm.
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And, uh,
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and, and Papa John's not there. He really, he
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screwed himself over 'cause now every time he's gonna be on, I'm gonna be like, "Where's the pizza, man?"
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Ah, man.
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Where's the pies?
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I think, I think, here's, here's what I think Flynn is
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exemplifying, and this is the thing, I think, that is going to eventually unite us all
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regardless of what we believe. Uh, the government needs to fix a thing-
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Mm-hmm.
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... and then be done. You know what I mean?
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Like-
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There's never going... It's always, oh, there's gonna be
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bumps in the road. Oh, we'll get there. And it's never like... Fucking
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cure polio. They cure polio, they can fix a thing.
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Sure.
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Pick a thing and then fix it. You know what I'm saying?
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Here's, here's what, uh, Flynn can fix, the
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very serious pizza shortage. (laughs)
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Right?
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He knows that.
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That's what... But I mean, seri- No, that's it. Everybody gets a pizza.
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That would be more convincing 'cause it's like, "Oh, a thing. You d- you fixed a thing."
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Well, it's a small problem of I don't have a pizza right now.
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More important is that they didn't.
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Well, I'm hungry.
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Instead of being like, "Oh, I mean, sure, you can have some pizza." No, goddamn it! Fix a thing.
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So most of this episode has been Alex whining and saying that this isn't a real, uh, auction.
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Right.
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Uh, the trustee committed these crimes, these-
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Yeah.
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... felonies on their face.
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Yep.
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Uh, and then being scolded and, uh, being like, "Look, it's just my opinion."
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Until everything changes to, "These are my opinions." His tone entirely flips.
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Yeah.
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He's still complaining and saying he gets screwed over in this auction, but he's
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being mindful of repeating, like, "my opinions," "I'm not a lawyer."
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Sure. Sure.
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A lot of caveats. And I think it starts to drive him insane.
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I think you've just... I mean, you've described a
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lot of things that he's done, but I think what you've described is
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justifying the reason he's on air.
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Mm-hmm. And, uh, I, I... He, he just sounds nuts.
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(laughs)
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Bad guys mess with me a little too much.
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(instrumental music plays) So
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I've been a little afraid to do it.
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(instrumental music plays) But I went ahead and
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flipped the switch.
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(instrumental music plays) And everybody's flipping the switch right now.
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(instrumental music plays) It's called an
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uprising. (instrumental music plays) It's called a global awakening.
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(instrumental music plays)
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It's called humanity coming back
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(instrumental music plays) from the dead.
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(instrumental music plays) All right.
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(silence) Let's talk about RFK Jr.
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Let's not.
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Let's talk about him.
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Let's not. Let's get back-
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Let's get into it.
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No. (laughs)
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Let's get into it. It's about time we talked about RFK Jr.
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When RFK Jr. was running a third-party
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campaign that, uh, Alex thought was gonna hurt Trump, he declared war upon him-
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Yep.
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... at his house.
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Yep.
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Um, and then now that he's with Trump, uh, he's, he's a great guy.
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Yep.
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Can't wait for him to head up the HHS.
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Mm-hmm.
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Um, but that just... That seemed nuts, right?
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(smacks lips)
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That tone?
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Yeah. Yeah.
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Yeah.
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Uprising.
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But, you know, when you throw in RFK that
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nothing seems nuts anymore. Like, the moment you say those, those letters,
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I go, "Oh, what's he gonna behead today?"
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That's what's fascinating about that clip.
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Yeah.
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Is that the beginning of it, Alex has this grumbly kind of weird, "Uh, the-"
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Yeah.
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"... bad guy's pissed me off." And you're really upset
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about that. And then he's like, "Now let's talk about RFK Jr." But in a, in a kinda normal, serious tone.
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In a totally... Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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And that's more upsetting.
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Yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah. It's all terrifying.
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Mm-hmm.
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This whole world.
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Yeah.
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Nuts.
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So, uh, Alex spends a lot of time talking about how he, he needs money and he wants money.
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Yeah, that makes sense.
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And you should give him money.
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Do you mean justifying why he's on air?
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Well, I... Maybe.
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(laughs)
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(laughs) Because just kind of making noises, which is-
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(laughs) That sounds right.
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Yeah.
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That sounds right.
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Yeah.
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And I don't wanna be while I'm fighting the new world order.
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Let's say I'm like a, you know, star fighter blasting the enemy tie fighters and my energy level's way down,
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and I just ignore it 'cause I'm like going around in the fight and all of a sudden, bzzz,
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chip turns off. I'm like, "Ah." And so I'm like watching it. Blink, blink,
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energy, energy, danger, danger, danger. And I'm like, "Rah," you know,
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destroying the enemy and I'm down to like a half a life. And I'm like, "Hey, guys, I got half a life
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left. Will you put one more on?" Like you're playing Galaga.
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You know, you're down to one life and I'm like, "Oh."
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All of a sudden you go bloop. "Oh, another life. Oh, thank you." And I really like... May- maybe... I
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love it when you're playing Galaga, there's like six lives. You know what I mean?
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But you play harder when you're down to that one life. Always
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noticed that. I'm not a huge video game fan. I played a lot of Galaga as a kid. And
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somewhere around here, I had it in the house. It's got, uh... I had, like, the
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video console with the old-fashioned
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games. It's got like 20 games on it, Galaga. And I noticed when I'm down to one
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life, like, I just did, I just passed seven levels with one life.
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So then I get... Maybe that's why God always keeps me at one life. (laughs)
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I'm just like, "This is stressing me out
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and you want me up here, like, 'Give me money. Give me money. Give me money.' "
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And I'm watching it. And I hate that, but what I really hate is watching one life.
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And I'm like, "I really don't wanna start ba-..." Well, yeah, yeah, because I hate losing
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more than I hate begging. And it's not like I'm a baby
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bird sitting there in the nest doing nothing going, "Mommy, give me food." Mee,
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mee, mee. You know the baby birds who mee, mee, mee, mee, mee, mee, mee, mee.
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Go to the document cam shot. I like that. Mee, mee, mee, mee, mee, mee, mee, mee, mee.
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I'll just keep doing it until we go to the document cam shot. Mee, mee, mee, mee, mee, mee. There you go.
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Little, little beaks showing up. So,
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mee, mee. I'll just do that for the rest of the show. Mee, mee, mee, mee, mee, mee.
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Wow.
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It's kinda fun. Mee, mee, mee, mee. It's like a new mantra. Mee, mee, mee, mee. Mee,
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mee, mee, mee, mee, mee. (laughs) Maybe that's the Elon Musk imitation. He'll be,
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he'll like call up, "I solved the transmission from Mars." He's like mee, mee, mee, mee, mee, mee. (laughs)
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I go...
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Sesame Street. I was never a big Sesame
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Street fan when I was a kid 'cause it had kinda already come out when I was bigger.
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I just never liked him compared to Looney Tunes. I guess it was out when I was
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very little. I guess it came out in 1974. I wasn't even born. The point was-
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This is amazing.
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... I just really like Sesame Street. But I like Cookie Monster. And, uh, I liked, uh,
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the aliens would show up occasionally.
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They sure would.
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That is, that is... That was incredible.
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Yeah.
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I felt, I felt it... There are two things that I felt in that moment.
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(laughs)
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There are two things I felt.
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(laughs)
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I felt-
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Just two?
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I felt 14 years younger.
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Mm-hmm.
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I felt like a baby comic just starting out, going to a party, feeling really excited that I was invited-
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Yeah.
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... because I, I was like... I, I didn't know anybody and th-
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Mm-hmm.
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And then to, to, like... You know, when you find a new friend group as an adult
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when you don't have one at all, it's always a little nerve-wracking.
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Uh, and then being cornered at, like, a party by a far older comedian.
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Someone who has a, like, substantially higher status maybe.
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And, and is a, a grown adult.
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Mm-hmm.
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Far more than, uh-
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And then they start making noises at you.
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And then they're-
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Beep, beep, beep, boop, boop.
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... fucking coked out of their mind going off.
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Boop, boop, boop, boop, boop.
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And you're like, "Oh, there's no reason for me to be here at all."
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Mm-hmm.
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"I've, I've made a huge mistake."
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But you have to put up with it.
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'Cause of course.
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Yeah.
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You wanna be cool and then you might get gigs.
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And it's happening, like, this... He's gonna make these noises one way or the other.
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Yep.
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Beep, boop, boop, boop, boop, boop, boop.
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Yep. And then I had the next feeling, which was that
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I was now in the crowd at an open mic watching that comic, realizing
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that was it testing out material on me.
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Oh, no.
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Yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah. That was heartbreaking. That was an
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odd... That was an emotional journey I just went on.
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That's a, that's a ride you went on.
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Yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah. That was intense.
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I felt like, um,
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someone with a, like, a notepad or, like, um, you know, just scribbling notes.
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Sure.
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Like I've just asked, "How does that make you feel?"
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Observing.
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(laughs) Yeah.
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You're observing. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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And I've just, uh, sort of put my pen in my mouth.
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Sure, sure.
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I just sort of, like, chew on the cam, like -You've got a little
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teaching group."What are we gonna do with this?"
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(laughs)
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(laughs) I felt like House.
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Now, class, this is, uh, this is not the first time you've seen this before.
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Yeah.
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What have we done?
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I felt like I am a doctor and I am very confident while he's making noises.
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Yeah.
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Because I know what's going on here.
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Mm-hmm.
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He's being passive aggressive about the people who aren't going to the document
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cam, and he's going, "Beep, beep, beep, beep, beep."
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Yeah.
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Over and over again.
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Yeah.
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I get this. This is lashing out. I understand. Then, as a doctor, I feel unsafe
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once he starts talking about how he likes the Cookie Monster.
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Yep.
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Because now I have no idea why we're doing this. Th- this free association train-
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Yeah.
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... has gone to, uh, Elon Musk, uh, maybe
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talking to him like a Martian-
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Yeah.
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... uh, because of the beep, boop, boop stuff, and then we've jumped to Sesame Street.
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Oof.
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That's when you're-
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Oof, oof, oof.
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... that's when you're... What I see is you doing that, and then as he keeps going, we pan out
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and we see that you're wearing bunny ears and lipstick as eyebrows.
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Mm-hmm.
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You know what I'm saying? Like, oh, we're all in the Looney Tunes bin right now.
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Mm-hmm.
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Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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Yeah, yeah.
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I'm at... I'm just as crazy as you-
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Yeah.
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... because we're both here.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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Yeah. Sam the Eagle thinks he's normal.
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Yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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He's not.
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Nope.
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He's a Muppet. (laughs)
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Nope, he is not real.
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(laughs) Yes.
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Yup,
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like that niece.
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Oh. That, that's the biggest conspiracy of them all.
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(laughs)
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There's no niece.
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That is the biggest... There's no niece. There was never a niece. (laughs)
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Yeah. So the rest of the show's somewhat uninspired.
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Yeah.
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Uh, but, uh, after Alex gets off air, he can go back to his old studio.
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Oh my God.
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He gets to go back to InfoWars.
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I just... We're just... Let's just run it back.
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I feel like everything we've done over the past year has been running something back.
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Yep. And th- that's exactly what happens when he gets back into his old studio.
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Oh my God.
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Well, here we are, back at the InfoWars studios. I thought it was bought by The Onion.
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I heard they bought it. I heard they got it in an auction. Turned out it was a
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rigged auction. Turned out the judge didn't authorize that auction.
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Turns out, they colluded on the bids
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beforehand and not told the real people that came to bid.
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Turns out, people are
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really interested to find out what's going on. So,
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let it sink in, folks, that
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we're back at InfoWars.
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So Alex is carrying a sink.
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You know, he's trying to run back that Elon Musk meme when he bought Twitter.
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Yup. And i-
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And there's just no escape.
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No.
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There's just no escape.
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I felt so embarrassed for him-
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Yeah.
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... when I saw that.
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I was just like, "This is the dorkiest shit I could imagine."
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Yeah.
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Like, there is a picture of Alex Jones
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that is, "I am wearing a goddamn Revolutionary War hat with a
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musket, and I'm coming back into my studio at you motherfuckers. I'm going to put up barbed wire
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and fuck you. I built this. I am, I am serious. I mean this." And I kind of... I don't like that guy.
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Sure.
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But I get it.
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Yeah.
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And I, I-
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That guy's real.
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Y- p- yeah.
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Yeah.
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And, and that guy, at least... I don't know. I'm gonna, I'm gonna be worried about him, but I'm gonna
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res- respect where he's coming from.
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He's coming from a real place.
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I am not going to respect the guy who recreates an Elon Musk troll meme when he comes back to his studio
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that he feels he has been wrongly evicted from in a war against the fucking devil. This is baby shit.
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Yup.
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This is so embarrassing.
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Yup.
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Make your own meme. Don't do the let this sink in. If you wanna be a troll, come up with your own thing. Don't
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rip off Elon Musk. Who the fuck? This is pathetic.
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Anyway, I was very disappointed in him.
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That's horrible. G- okay.
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Here's a thought that I,
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I just had.
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Mm-hmm.
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All right? If you... Y- you know the depictions of... Let's, let's go with Bill & Ted's Bogus Journey, okay?
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You know how they go into their own personal hells and then, and there's like, "Ah," you know?
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There were other people there-
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Mm-hmm.
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... in those hells. And then I was like, "Do they know they're in his hell?"
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Hmm.
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"Or are they in their own personal hell being in his hell?
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Or are they not real and they are just, uh, uh, conjured
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as a, as a figment of his own imagination?"
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And then I wondered, if I was a self-aware version of myself in Alex's hell,
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would this be any different?
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Huh.
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You know what I'm saying? Like, if Alex has got an awareness... Uh,
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let's say this is actually... We're actually, relatively speaking, in the year 3000.
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Okay.
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All right?
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Sure.
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And Alex has already lived this exact
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horrible, shameful moment a million times over, right? And only now are you and I realizing
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that we're actually trapped in his hell. Can we escape?
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I mean, we can just do whatever we can do, you know? Like...
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Sure.
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I, I, I mean, self-actualization in that moment does not grant you freedom. You know?
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That's true.
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You are still in that hell.
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You g- I mean, yeah, you're in hell.
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You can really only make the best of what you got.
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And you didn't deserve anything. You didn't do anything.
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No.
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(laughs)
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I, I, I
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guess in that hell, I go on vacation?
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(laughs)
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I don't know. (laughs)
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Yeah, I think that's the plan. (laughs)
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Yeah. But man, I just think, like, there's something about this that is
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the, the limpest, wettest piece of pasta-
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Yeah.
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... uh, in terms of defiance.
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Yeah.
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Because like, okay, so like,
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Socrates, uh, in The Apology.
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Sure.
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He famously, uh, was like, "Hey, what my punishment should be for all this shit? You should feed me for life."
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Yup.
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That was an act of defiance that was, uh, you know, it's historically resonant.
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Sure.
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This, uh, "Oh, yeah, I've corrupted the youth by asking questions and opening their mind.
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Yes, I should be punished by being a hero."
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Yeah.
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"Yeah, that's what I should do."
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Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
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That would have a lot less power if Socrates was ripping off some other dipshit
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who had said the same thing to the power structure.
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Hmm.
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Like, if this act of defiance was just copying someone else, I think it would look a lot less
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strong. So, just from Alex's sense of self-
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Yeah.
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... he shouldn't just
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play dress-up.
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See, that's the thing. It is entirely possible that Socrates did bite that off of somebody
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and he was just a biter, but the trick is,
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be several thousand years in the future and only have one account you can rely on.
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Mm-hmm.
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You can't be having, like, the g- "Oh, also, the guy who said it first published my shit two weeks ago."
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Mm-hmm.
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You know?
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Well, here's the problem with that.
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If Socrates did bite someone-
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Mm-hmm.
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... in, in this-
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Yeah.
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... um,
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it still works.
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Sure. No, of course.
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In this case, this, Alex's gesture only has meaning
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in the context of "Elon did this."
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Yeah, that's true.
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That's the onl- he... It's referential.
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It's pathetic on multiple levels.
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Yeah.
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Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
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It, it can't stand the test of time even if we erase Elon's action.
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Right, 'cause it's predicated upon such.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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So I don't think that even if Alex were able to control the narrative
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and erase Elon's meme from, uh, from history-
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Yeah.
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... I don't think it works. I think he... It's just pathetic-
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Yeah.
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... across the board, in a way that just really disappoints me.
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Yeah. No, he should go down in history as being one of the most sycophantic people that ever existed.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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To, to the point where it should be... I- it should be defining in the character of this person.
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Absolutely. He is the quintessential bootlicker.
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He has had his empire unfairly taken away from him.
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Mm-hmm.
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He retreats to the secondary studio and he comes back to his rightful throne
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and he references Elon, uh, a meme that Elon did-
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Yeah.
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... in his moment of great triumph.
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Not... Like, he loves to say the, you know, the John Paul Jones, "I've only beg- I've not yet begun to fight."
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Sure.
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You know, that, that kind of... He, he needs something like that instead of a sink meme.
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Just a dork.
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Hmm.
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Ugh.
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Yup.
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Anyway.
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Brutal.
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Yeah. There's not much... There's not a whole lot to really
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talk about with his return to the studio, 'cause it's more of the same, honestly.
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I mean, yeah, 'cause we're a self-aware existence inside of his personal hell.
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Yeah, so he just accuses the trustee of crimes more.
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Sure.
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Um, and then he gets, uh, he gets a little bit, uh, a little bit cocky
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doing that, like, uh, "Who's on air now..."
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Hmm.
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... kinda stuff. Uh, but
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there is a moment that I do think is kinda funny.
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All right.
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And that is Alex, uh, he thinks Trump's gonna come save him-
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Uh-huh.
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... uh, and, uh, use the DOJ, uh, to crush his enemies for him.
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Sure.
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And Alex justifies his belief-
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... in a
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disappointing way-
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Oh, no.
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... that he realizes sounds bad in the moment.
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(laughs)
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So,
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'cause let me tell you, th- this has now been chosen
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to, to display what Trump's talking about
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with the government media-court collusion. You, you, you, you think Trump isn't pissed off?
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You think he doesn't take it personal he knows I'm one of his biggest defenders?
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It'd be like if I have a dog, my German shepherd that protects my family, that just
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chewed up 10 or 15 people that tried to attack us, and now
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I see somebody beating my dog with a baseball bat, you think I get pissed
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off? Yeah, I'm comparing myself to Trump's dog.
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Oops.
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S- uh, uh, I mean,
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th- that's just un, uh, uh, a hilarious, "Yeah, all right, I'm Trump's dog."
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Uh, all right.
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(singing) Now I wanna be your dog.
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The, the, the thing that's also really funny about this-
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Mm-hmm.
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... is that dogs are trained.
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Yep.
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And, uh, Alex is Trump's dog.
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Mm.
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Um, and as, as he is, you know, he has deprived himself of the free will and agency that
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he pretends to care so much about, which is deeply ironic. And I think he, when he says,
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"Yeah, I'm saying I'm Trump's dog," there's a
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part of him that recognizes that these are the par- the things that he's implying.
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Yeah.
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And he's probably ashamed.
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Did he not also say that the dog unfairly bit people 10 or 15 times?
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Hm.
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No, the dog defended, uh, the owners-
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Oh.
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... 10 or 15 times, and is being unfairly attacked. The owner's come to its defense.
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Right. Okay.
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Which Trump has absolutely not done up till this point-
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Oof.
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... when Alex has been under attack.
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Yeah. I don't, um, no, I don't like that one.
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Mm-hmm.
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I would be, I would be real disappointed with myself if I had unintentionally said that.
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Yeah.
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'Cause that would make me think, like, "Oh, no, something's trying to escape from my brain
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to then become life and talk back to me."
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Trump has me on a leash. (laughs)
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Like the back part of my brain spoke out so the words would look the front part of my brain in the face.
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Yep.
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Yeah.
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Yep.
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Yep.
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It's a bummer.
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I hope not to have those. (laughs)
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No. So, uh, Alex talks a bit about how they have won, um, I guess, uh, the,
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he as a dog has won.
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Sure.
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Sure.
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We are
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devastating you.
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And nothing you can pull, no false flags, nothing will change that. Y- y- if the general public
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slips on a banana peel, they're gonna blame you.
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Hm.
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But, you know, it is always you. Remember we told you, they're not giving
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Trump supporters aid, they're not going to Republican counties. You can look at the
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maps in North Carolina, and then we got all the documents, and it wasn't one
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lady, it was the agency, and then we got videos of the agency heads in their own
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Zoom meetings saying, "Don't give Christians, whites, or conservatives any help."
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We used to be egalitarian and help everybody, now we only help A, LGBTQ, whatever.
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Used to be? Was that before or after slavery?
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If you've seen the video, you wanna see it ag- I mean, that's discrimination.
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Women's suffrage?
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We know you don't like us. We know you're
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out to get us. We know you're attacking us. And so we're done playing games,
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and we realize when we're nice to you, it just makes you abuse us more, like we're some
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prostitute and you're the pimp, and you break our arm or put cigarettes out on us when we thank you.
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No, we don't thank you.
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We're done.
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We're getting off the plantation.
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Figure it out yet?
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It's a global realignment, and I'm just honored to be a part of it.
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It's crystal clear what Alex is saying, and anyone should be able to read between those lines
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very easily. The needs and wants of white Christian conservatives are more important than anyone else.
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He's a white identity adherent and he supports the general trend internationally towards
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more authoritarian governments that place that identity at the core of their image of power.
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It's been obvious for a long time, which is why we call him a racist and a bigot, so
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this isn't any kind of surprise to hear.
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He's basically saying, "I'm pissed off because I think white Christians should be the
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only people with rights," and my response is, "We know." We know.
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Yep.
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This is what he been saying for a while.
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Yep.
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He's here celebrating that no false flag his enemies
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try to pull will derail his movement, and, and if you understand the subtext there, it's
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kinda depressing to think about. In Infowars' world, things aren't really false flags.
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It's a buzzword and an accusation that gets thrown around
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to, to get out of any inconvenient spot that Alex might find himself in.
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Anything and everything from a racist mass murderer
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to a global pandemic can be called a false flag, to the point where the
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word doesn't really mean anything anymore.
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There have been real false flags in the course of history, but that legacy has
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no connection to what Alex does and how Alex has weaponized the term.
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The fundamental effect that Alex has achieved with
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this, uh, this whole calling everything a false flag, uh,
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is that we're closer to a reality where terrorism is a feasible strategy for the extreme right to
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use. Like, their, their actions will never impact
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the, uh,
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it will, uh, it will be useful
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as a, like, you can't derail the right-wing militia movement with the OKC bombing anymore.
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Hm.
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Like, that's not going to happen. There are going to be people like Alex, and there is a large enough media
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presence that will deny, uh, reality.
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Uh, a, a completely different reality has been
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created to insulate, uh, extremism from its consequences, and that is what Alex means
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when he says no false flag will work.
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Yep.
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Um, "We will not take the blame for any of the consequences of this
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rhetoric," is what he's (laughs) , he's saying.
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Yeah. I mean-
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We've dodged, we've disconnected actor from action.
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Right. Right. But at least we can be relied upon, uh, for them to also be in control of the government.
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Mm-hmm.
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So,
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I guess it's better that way, in a sense.
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I think-
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As long as they're in control of the government, terrorism does
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not help them achieve their goals, so what we should do is be grateful.
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That's not true, though.
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Hm.
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Um, I, I think that, uh,
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I, I think
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as
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things don't go exactly how the really angry
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white identity, uh, Christian (laughs) conservative, uh, folks like,
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I think wh- no matter who's in power, there's a secret group that's in power.
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Sure.
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And that's the group that isn't prioritizing the white Christian conservative needs.
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Yeah. Well, I mean, at least, at least there are people in power who hold them accountable.
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Hm.
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So, uh, we have one last clip here.
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Uh-huh.
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Alex just gets a little bit defensive about, uh, Mr. Onion.
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Yes.
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He, uh, he did an interview with the, uh, the, uh, uh, George Stephanopoulos.
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Hm.
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And, uh, Alex goes over that interview
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and he just complains about how, like, "I didn't do anything that he said,
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you know, families..." Blah, blah, blah.
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Uh, and I just thought this clip was, like,
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you're accusing these people of serious crimes.
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Overnight, the judge in charge of this, uh, put a hold
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on your purchase, raising questions about the process, raising questions about
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transparency in the bidding process.
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What do you make of that? Are you confident this is still gonna go through?
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Yeah, look, we won the bid, um, we are, we, we-
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Okay pause, back it up 10 seconds.
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"Uh, mm, yeah." He looks at him, "Yeah, we won the bid and mm, yeah."
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You, you won the bid? The, the trustee's been in the news saying, "Well, I decided to give it to them,
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and, you know, they needed extra money so we came up with this plan."
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And then they didn't tell the real bidders that in the rules you can't do that.
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And then they changed the stuff last minute, and the judge said that
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wasn't a real auction. That's why we're back in the building.
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So,
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that morning, Alex talked a lot of shit, got a call from a lawyer, and while he was on air, he
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changed up how he was approaching this, and moderated and
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did this, "These are my beliefs, this is my opinion."
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But his brain doesn't
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have... He has, like, a memento thing.
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By the time he's back on air that evening, it's a new broadcast.
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Yeah.
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And so he doesn't...
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... remember I'm not supposed to be accusing everyone of all these crimes.
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No, it's that-
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He needs to be reminded constantly.
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It's that... No, it's that they're not watching.
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Yeah.
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He knows they're not watching, so he can say whatever he wants.
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Yeah. That's probably true. And whatever, uh, pretend lesson I was pretending to have learned-
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Yeah.
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... I can just go ahead and drop that pretense.
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Yeah.
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That act can, can fall away.
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Yeah. To... I mean, again, like,
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the idea of anything
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like that giving him pause is, uh, purely temporary.
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But that's why it needs to be constantly reminded. Like-
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I mean, that, that just doesn't make any sense.
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It doesn't.
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It doesn't make any sense.
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But nothing makes any sense.
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So, so anything that leads towards that-
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But it-
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... as an out- outcome means that the entire process should be scrapped and started from the beginning.
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Maybe so.
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On a foundation that makes sense.
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Maybe-
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As opposed to this bananas town.
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Maybe the entire, um, uh, institution of talk
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radio in all this does need to be, uh, figured out from ground floor.
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I, I think yes.
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But-
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From ground... from fucking... yeah.
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But think about how funny it would be if Alex was on air on this Friday night
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and he gets another call from the lawyer and he's like,
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"You know, I, uh, I do... I, I just wanna say that these are my beliefs." And he has to do that again.
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I mean-
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Every single show involves a beginning that's full of steam.
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Yeah.
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And, and then by the end of it, he's having to make apologies.
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It's possible-
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That's pretty funny.
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All right. It's possible. Let's say this. Let's say they assign a team of lawyers-
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Mm-hmm.
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... to watch his show all day every day
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and he also has to... But there have to be consequences. They c-... The more
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they do it, the less valuable it becomes.
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Right.
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Oh, are you gonna do some-... Oh, you're watching now? Yeah, of course you are.
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You called me la-... yesterday. Oh, surprise. Are you gonna call
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me tomorrow? Surprise! Are you gonna call me the day after that?
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Well, but here's the thing-
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Oh my God, what are you gonna do? Fucking nothing.
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Right. Except
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that, like, he clearly was responsive to this trustee's lawyer's call.
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Which is weird.
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Yes.
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Yeah.
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So there is something.
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I don't know, once he finds out those don't have any teeth, man, nothi-... even-... I mean, g-... he has to be
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stopped by being no longer on the air.
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Hmm.
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If you want him to not do the things that we sued him for, he just can't talk on the air.
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Yeah, and I don't know if there's a way to do that.
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(laughs)
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But there is, um...
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So... (laughs)
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Chase could, uh, turn off, uh... (laughs)
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I mean, yes. Honestly, that really could be a thing.
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Yep.
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(laughs)
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Anyway, um, this is, uh, all
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kind of... Uh, it feels in some ways like treading water.
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Yeah.
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And I think that
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not much is going to be decided until these court things, uh, get heard
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and, uh, I'm out. (laughs)
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Yeah, it's the, it's the illusion of movement while still staying in the exact same place.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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And so, uh, I guess we'll check back in whenever-
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I guess we will. (laughs)
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Uh, but, uh, we'll have some episodes in the, in the time that we're-
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In the intervening time period.
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... taken off, but, uh, we'll be back, uh, eventually.
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Indeed, we will. And you-
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Won't be that long.
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... should enjoy your vacation, my friend.
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Thank you.
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Mm-hmm.
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Uh, we'll be back. But until then, we have a website.
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Indeed we do. It's knowledgefight.com.
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We'll be back. But until then, I'm Neo, I'm Leo, I'm DZX Clark. I am the mysterious professor. Woo. Yeah. Woo.
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Woo. Yeah. Woo.
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And now, here comes w-... the sex robot.
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Andy in Kansas, you're on the air. Thanks for holding.
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Hello, Alex. I'm a first-time caller. I'm a huge fan. I love your work.
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I love you.