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Hello, Alex. I'm a first-time caller. I'm a huge fan. I love your work.

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Hey, everybody. Welcome back to Knowledge Fight. I'm Dan.

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I'm Jordan.

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We're a couple of dudes that like to sit around and worship at the

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altar of Celine and talk a little bit about Alex Jones.

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Oh, indeed we are, Dan.

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Jordan.

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Dan.

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Jor-dan.

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Quick question for you.

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Sup?

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Which bright spot today, buddy?

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Why don't you go first?

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Uh, my bright spot is, uh, currently in our home, uh, three men enter every morning

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and just make a shit ton of noise.

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How many men leave?

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Uh, at 5:00, usually three men leave.

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Okay.

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Uh-

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So it's not a d- death sport situation?

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No, it's just like a regular work day.

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Oh, okay.

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Uh, uh, and then hopefully by the end of it, we will have a new shower.

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Mm-hmm.

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And this is the brightest of spots.

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Yeah, that is nice. I didn't... I... Look, I don't wanna put your business on main street, but-

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Sure.

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... that shower is pretty gross.

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It was.

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Or it was.

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It was one of the most disgusting things you'll ever see.

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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So I'm, I'm excited for you to get a new, uh, uh, thing in there.

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Yeah.

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Because it was, uh,

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uh... Your house is very nice. Like you and Devin's place is, is, is nice.

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I think it's a condo. It's a-

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But it's still nice. It's like-

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No, I... Yeah, yeah, yeah. Just don't call it a house. (laughs)

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Fair enough, fair enough. It's, it's lovely, um,

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in terms of everything I think except for maybe your cave. (laughs)

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Yep, my cave is a horrifying nightmare.

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And the shower.

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And the shower is a horrifying nightmare. Both of these things are true.

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So that anomaly will be gone.

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Yeah.

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And there it'll, it'll fit-

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It'll just be my monstrous cave.

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... feel much nicer. But that's to be expected.

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Yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah. That's what I need to survive.

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I think even in a best case scenario if my place was like really

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nice and, and decorated and everything, th- the studio would still be a mess.

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Sure, sure. Well, yeah.

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That's our little, uh-

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It's just the space.

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... little hidey hole.

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It's where it needs to be.

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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Well, that's good.

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Yeah.

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How long did you say it's gonna take?

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Uh, they said it was only gonna take three days.

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(whistles)

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So they say it's gon- they're gonna be done by tomorrow.

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Nice.

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I took a look, uh, after they were l- went home today.

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It's, uh, it's a hole and it's filled with stuff, but not a bathroom.

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Uh, so we'll see what happens tomorrow. (laughs)

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What do you do in a situation like this? Do you give beverages? Do you tip?

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No, I just, I just hide.

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Yeah.

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I t-... (laughs) I mean,

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that's what I do. I'm just in the living room with the dogs

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and we're trying not to make noise, as though they're not making a shit ton of noise.

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Yeah.

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Like I'm trying not to bother them by making too much of a racket.

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When they're using power tools.

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Yeah, exactly. (makes power tool sound) Hey guys, sorry, I've got, uh, I've got my music on a little loud.

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Mm.

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I'll turn it down.

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Well, hopefully it goes smooth.

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(laughs)

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Ah, it'll be nice. How about you? What's your bright spot?

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Well, my bright spot is my parents are in town for a visit.

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Hey.

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And it's very nice. Good to see them. Uh, very fun times

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and also this is my way of explaining why maybe this episode's gonna be a little shorter-

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It's gonna be a little shorter.

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... than expected-

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Yeah.

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... at dinner reservations.

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(laughs)

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So, uh,

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that's, uh, you know, it's a lot to take in. Uh, parental visit-

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Sure.

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... and election, all of this. You know, it's just a, just a whirlwind of shit.

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Sure. Yeah.

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Uh, but today we're gonna be talking a little bit about Alex's election night coverage.

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Sure.

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He was on air for quite a while.

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Jesus.

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Quite a long time. And I watched, uh, pretty deep into it, and, um, it was boring. (laughs)

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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It's, it's very, it's a very strange sensation to

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watch the, the coverage on there again, because as, you know, we've talked about it in the past,

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a lot of my curiosity and the interest in doing the show grew out of watching

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the debates, uh-

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Yep.

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... on InfoWars, culminating in the 2016 election-

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Yep.

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... coverage, uh, where Alex

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raised his champagne glass and mocked the people at the, the Clinton campaign.

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One could say that the show was born two days ago eight years ago.

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Eh, that, you know, obviously there's other pieces of it-

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Of course.

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... and that's printing the legend sorta.

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Of course, of course.

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But, you know, the visceral experience of seeing that, uh,

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was inspirational in my curiosity being driven towards like, "What's going on with this guy?"

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Totally.

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And people aren't really talking about what he covers.

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Yeah.

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I don't know what his show is like. What is the c- what is the real shit here?

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Yeah. Yeah, yeah.

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Um, and so to eight years later be like in a

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fairly similar situation, watching, um, an election happen where Alex is celebrating Trump winning

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and also going out of his way to play footage of

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Harris rallies.

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Sure.

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And going out of his way to try and laugh at these people.

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Sure.

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It felt very different.

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Yeah.

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It felt weird. It, it did, did not quite strike the same chord.

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Interesting.

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Yeah. And I think a part of it was desperation.

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Okay.

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Um, like Alex wanted to mock these people and he wanted them to be in pain.

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Right.

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And instead

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there would... He'd flash to like, uh, Harris'

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uh, the, the

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would-be victory celebration and there were people dancing.

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Sure.

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There were people crying.

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Right.

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Like he wanted to mock.

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Right.

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Like he did in 2016.

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Right, right, right, right.

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There wasn't that, um, that image of the

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soft soy liberal or whatever that, that he would derive pleasure out of seeing their pain.

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Right.

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Instead, he was saying, "Oh, look at them. Look at them, they're in so much pain."

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(laughs)

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And there were people dancing or milling about.

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Sure.

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Like it was not the same.

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Sure, sure, sure. Yeah.

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But he wanted it to be the same.

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Right.

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He wanted those feelings again, uh, (laughs) very obviously.

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Yeah.

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And it just... I don't know, it felt very flat.

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Yeah, that's, uh, that's the way it goes. I don't know what to tell you. (laughs)

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Mm-hmm. So we'll talk a little bit about the night, but I don't know if all of it is really

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as much worth, uh, breaking down all

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hours and hours-

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Sure, sure.

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... (laughs) of this.

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I, I strongly doubt it, but who knows?

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Yeah.

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You know?

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I, I don't think it is.

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Yeah.

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Uh, but we'll talk about some things

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that, uh, are worth note. But first, let's take a little moment to say hello to some new Wonks.

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Ooh, that's a great idea.

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So first, to my Griggly Bear Bryce, proud

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papa to Dute, happy birthday. Instead

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of a bucket of poop, here's a shout-out. Love, Stinky. Thank you so much. You're now a Policywonk.

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I'm a Policywonk. Thank you very much.

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Thank you. In my new D&D campaign I'm playing a chaotic evil

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tiefling barbarian named Alex Emerick-Jones. Thank you so much. You're now a Policywonk.

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I'm a Policywonk. Thank you very much.

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Thank you. And I learned of your podcast at

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QED and now I want nothing more than to hear

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Jordan yell "thank you very much" at me. Uh, you're now a Policywonk.

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I'm a Policywonk. Thank you very much.

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There you go. Uh, and we got a technocrat in the mix, Jordan.

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Ooh.

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So thank you so much to... Happy birthday, Chelsea, from

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your Knowledge-fighting brother. Thank you so much. You're now a technocrat.

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I'm a Policywonk.

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Before you start, go home to your mother and tell her you're brilliant.

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Someone, someone sodomite sent me a bucket of poop.Daddy sharp. Bomp, bomp, bomp, bomp, bomp. Jar Jar Binks

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has a Caribbean black accent. He's a loser little, little titty baby. I don't wanna hate black people.

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I renounce Jesus Christ.

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Thank you so much.

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Yes, thank you very much.

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So, um, you know, the election happened.

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Yep.

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Trump won.

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Yep.

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Shit's bad. And I think we all know how important, uh, we're all going to be for each other, uh,

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in the future, uh, how crucial, um, things are as things get bad.

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Um, you know, I don't know, I'm not the best source of inspirational speech-

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(laughs)

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... or, or insight-

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Yeah.

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... on this.

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Sure.

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But, you know, I think everybody who listens to this show probably understands,

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like, there's a lot of work ahead and, um,

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you know, that's,

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that's just reality.

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Yep.

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I don't think that it was a giant surprise that Trump won.

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It was disappointing for sure, but at the beginning of the night, I felt like it could go either way.

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The sense that I got was that reality could go either direction, but that the media

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that, uh, we end up covering a ton treated Trump's win as a foregone conclusion, and they were planning

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a ton of groundwork for the possibility of him losing. There was just

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all, "It's gonna be stolen. Oh my God,

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there's people in Philadelphia who've been caught stealing." Like, just

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wall to wall-

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Yeah.

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... uh, this was the way things were gonna go.

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Yeah.

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I'll admit, though, I did think that there was a slight edge

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that Harris was holding, because Trump's a complete lunatic.

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I thought things like Tucker talking about being attacked by a demon would be a splash of

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cold water in the face for people that would wake them up

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about the direction that that side of things was going.

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Sure.

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But I was wrong.

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Yeah.

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I'm, I'm fine to admit that I was wrong.

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I thought demon attack stuff in the last days of the campaign, everyone

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was gonna be like, "Uh-oh, pump the brakes here."

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Yep.

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"Hold on."

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"Whatcha gonna do?"

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But I think the main message that I've had, uh, from the election coverage on InfoWars was

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that Alex is bored, and I don't have any qualms about that

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even now that Trump won. I still think Alex was intensely bored with the

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actual election, needing to distract himself from the real world with

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any momentarily exciting headline or fantasy prediction.

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And from watching his coverage of the 2024 election, I

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still feel that way. I still feel that he was bored, and he was

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just a bored guy with things going his way. There's this kind of

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celebratory mood, but during the night, he, like, played some footage of him and Roger celebrating

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2016, and there's such a noticeable difference.

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Oof.

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It's night and day.

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That is, that is not what I would do.

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Yeah.

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I would definitely not play footage of eight years ago and, like, be younger, have less

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of a billion dollars over your head. Like, any number of these things.

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I don't know if it was his choice. I think they might've done it by accident.

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Oh, okay.

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But, but also, like, they're playing this footage of Alex and he's like,

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"Ah, we got Trump in. As long as he doesn't sleep with goblins, we'll be okay."

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Great.

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And so, like, this whole idea that he had was, like, "All right, he's in, but

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we can't accept him working with bad people."

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Right.

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Right?

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Right, right.

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You can't work with the establishment.

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Sure.

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And then the entire time that Trump was in office was

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him making excuses for why Trump's working with these establishment people.

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Yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

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And so, like, it's just kinda funny to look back on that and, like, "Oh, we're doing this again."

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Yeah.

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"Oh, he's gonna get good people this time."

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Yeah.

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Okay.

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No, it does make you feel like, uh, it's possible

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whenever everybody was telling you that democracy was on the line, they were lying! (laughs)

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Um, I don't know.

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I mean, if-

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I don't know how I feel about that.

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If it were the case, I don't think Obama would release a statement saying that he was very

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proud of the Kamala Harris campaign,

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uh, if democracy was over.

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Hmm.

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That seems ino- uh, in- incongruous. Unless it's also, "And I'm fleeing the country,

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uh, because I'll be murdered. Because democracy's over."

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Hmm.

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Right?

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I don't know.

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(laughs)

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I mean, I think that, uh,

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you know, I,

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I don't know what happens as democracies crumble. I

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don't know if everyone flees or if people hold onto institutions that, uh, are no longer functional.

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Sure.

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Maybe you just exist within that, uh, institutional place. Uh, what do you expect them to do? Like,

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get their guns and start being like-

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Yeah, exactly.

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... "We fight at dawn"?

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Yeah, no, they, that's the way that they made you feel in the lead-up

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to the election, and now that it's happened, everybody's gonna make you feel like, "Actually, things will

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be pretty much the same. You'll be able to deal with it. We gotta Æ'»

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I think that some of that is your interpretation of democracy is on the ballot.

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Sure.

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And some of that is the way that you are made to feel by

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that-

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See? There you go.

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... conversation.

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Things are gonna be fine. (laughs)

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As opposed to what everybody feels-

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Right.

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... or, uh, what they, like,

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w- exactly what their message was.

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Sure.

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And I, I don't think that,

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you know, you shouldn't be held to account for that.

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Sure.

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Not you.

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Sure.

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I mean, th- the way that they made some people feel with the democracy is on the ballot.

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Sure, sure, sure.

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But I also don't think that it means y- you have to

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start

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shooting or else that viewpoint is invalid.

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Of course.

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It's complicated.

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Sure.

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So I was trying to put my finger on what this difference that I

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felt between 2016 and 2024 Alex was, and the

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thing that I kept coming back to is that Alex is no longer a free person.

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In 2016, he'd agreed to shill for Trump, a guy who he'd previously

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shit on and reported was connected to the mob, but he was doing a gig.

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In many ways, supporting Trump furthered his

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enterprise and it opened up a ton of conspiracy possibilities.

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Trump winning wasn't ideal, but it was an interesting development, and they might be able to work with it.

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But Alex made a giant mistake by centering his identity on the power that he felt after this win.

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He embellished stories and made shit up, uh, to make himself look closer to this power.

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He abandoned old guests who didn't go along with Trump and

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brought in a new crew of idiots who were riding the same adjacency-to-power scam that Alex was.

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Instead of being Alex Jones in a new world where Trump happened to be in power, Alex branded himself as the

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guy who Trump listens to and takes the

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lead from. Alex was talking to all of the Trump advisors, and

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Alex is actually the spiritual driver behind the whole Trump movement.

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His essence became entwined with this in a

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way that wasn't freeing, but in fact shackled him. And now, Alex lives in a constricted world of

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being Alex Jones. He's still Alex Jones, but he's tied down.

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Yeah.

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Let's imagine a scenario where Trump uses the military against Palestinian rights protesters or

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climate change protesters. This would be as clear a, a, a day of, uh,

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breach of posse comitatus as you could imagine, and it couldn't be more of a

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red line for someone in Alex's political tradition.

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Deploying FEMA after natural disasters is supposed to be a violation of posse comitatus to him, so

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how can he exist in this conspiracy space?

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Sure.

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Like, he would need to then be like, "Oh no, Trump is a villain."

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Yeah. I mean-

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Can you do that? You can't, really.

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No, spiritual drivers have to die. That's the important th-

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Like, Jesus, uh, Jesus has to die. He can't, like, be

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50, turn a little too much water into wine and have diarrhea. That's not your Jesus.

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Well-

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That's not your god.

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Yeah, f-

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He's gotta die.

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For narrative archetypes, for the storytelling-

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Yeah.

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... um, w- the way that it goes, you need to.

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Yeah.

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And, and it doesn't mean that Alex needs to die, it's just that

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he now needs to realize that everything in his career is sort of undoing and going to make a problem for-

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Yeah.

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... his legend.

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Yeah, whether or not he needs to die-

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Yeah.

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... metaphorically, what he needs to do is go away to a space where people

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forget about him, and then he can come back and be the, you know, rampaging returning hero.

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Yeah.

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But he's gotta go away first.

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Yeah, and, I mean-

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Gotta go away to come back.

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And I mean, I think there's some, like, really funny irony in that, uh,

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so during the show, he's selling his VIP membership club thing.

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Jesus.

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And on it, he has the lost Alex Jones tapes-

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(laughs)

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... which he's selling, which are episodes of his show from 2001 to 2008.

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That you have? (laughs)

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Of course.

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Of course you have them.

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But then, but then it's also, like, hey, dude. Like,

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you know the reason that you stopped there?

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I need him to deal with the fact that one of his, quote-unquote, "best friends"

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came on his show and said, "My guy Joe's been lying to you for years in order to try and

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hurt Democrats."

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Yep.

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So, I mean, he should have to face the music on this one way or the other. I don't think he will.

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Sure.

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Um, but yeah. That, to me, I think that clip is

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basically one of the only thing that, uh, things that happened on this show that was important.

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Yeah.

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Just this ha-ha.

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Yeah, I mean, you know, there's, there's,

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there's the other reaction to him

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being like, "I'm not a white re- renationalist," which is

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the, you know,

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uh, "Well, see? He's, he's very ambiguous about his feelings. You can't call

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him a white nationalist. Here's the fact-check." (laughs)

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(laughs)

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"You can't call him a white nationalist 'cause he said he wasn't a white nationalist."

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Well-

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And that's the other thing.

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I think, I think that there's some value in not throwing around, uh, terms, like, just super-capriciously.

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See?

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But

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yeah, there is some cover that, uh, that people who have, uh, noxious beliefs can, like,

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play technicalities or something.

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Yep.

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Hiding, hiding the, the ball-

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Yeah.

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... uh, a little bit.

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And there are people who love that shit.

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Yeah, and-

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They wanna help him hide the ball as much as possible.

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And I think that there's, there's some of that. There's a lotta other people who have been also quite clear-

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Sure.

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... you know, as it, as it relates to Rogan.

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The way everybody is going to react to all of this will be in whatever, the

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explanation will be whatever it needs to be for them to not have to be like, "Well, I was wrong about this."

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Mm-hmm.

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That's what it's gonna be. That's what everybody's reaction is gonna be. So,

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it's okay.

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So, the issue with a lot of this is this mentality, um, that Alex is depicting with Rogan-

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Mm-hmm.

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... is real for a lot of the figures in his media.

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Yeah.

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Like,

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the Democrats and Harris in particular, uh, a lot of their messaging was around Project 2025-

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Sure.

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... being like, "This is what Trump's probably going to do. These are staffing decisions

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and, uh, adv- uh, advocacy stuff that is likely what you're going to see if he gets elected."

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Sure.

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It is so

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unpopular and people rightly saw a lot of the, uh, uh, policy proposals as being

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like, "I don't wanna sign up for this."

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Sure.

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"This is bad."

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Sure.

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"This is no good."

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So,

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you know, they pretended that wasn't what they wanted.

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Yep.

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And now you'll probably see a lot of that façade drop.

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Yep.

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Um,

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you know?

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But I wanna congratulate Kamala for running a really... I'm really proud of her campaign. I'm just

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really proud of the way she ran it. I'm really proud of her. And you know what? I think it's good.

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I, I, I

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don't know what you do.

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(laughs)

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I don't know what you do.

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I do. (laughs)

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It's, but, you know-

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Do-

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The reality is that it was a losing campaign and that sucks.

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Did anybody, did anybody come out and say, "I am sorry I failed you.

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Our campaign failed you. We told you

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that democracy was on the line, those were the stakes, and then we did an actively bad

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job for whatever reason you choose. We failed. We're failures."

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(sighs) I, I-

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"We failed you."

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... I did wa- I did watch her concession speech the next day-

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Yeah?

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... and that was not, that was not most of the theme.

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Not the thrust of it?

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No.

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How about Biden's speech today? Was that the theme of it? "Sorry we failed you"? (laughs)

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I didn't see that. I didn't watch that one.

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No, it doesn't seem like anybody's resigned or like, taken responsibility.

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No.

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Everybody's just talked about how we need to resist!

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But I, I, I think there should be though. I think there should be a, quite a, quite a reckoning of-

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You would think.

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... um, you know, uh, strategy moving forward.

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Yep.

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Um, and I, I-

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(laughs)

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I obviously don't know enough to

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know what the right decision is.

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Sure.

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But it does, it does feel like there's, uh, some hard questions to be asked.

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Sure! I mean, I'm sure they'll be asked of her.

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So Alex has a co-host-

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Yeah.

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... uh, for most of the night.

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Mm-hmm.

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We're just gonna play a little bit, just give you a little bit of the, the vibe of things.

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Sure. Okay.

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Um, and I don't think that she's very good at the game that's being played.

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I only look at, uh, most of intelligence, people ask, "Where do you get intelligence?" Oh, the persons in the

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CIA, they have intelligence. That-

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I should, uh, pause real quick here and just give you a little bit of context.

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Okay.

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Um, at this point in the night, very few

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returns have come in. This is about 7:00, so there's very few returns from Texas.

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Right.

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But some of the early returns made it look like Texas might go blue.

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(laughs) Okay.

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And so they're a little bit worried about that.

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Okay. All right, all right. We're in that mode where

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nothing has actually happened, but everybody's kinda like, "Ooh, it could go either way!"

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Within three minutes of this clip, uh-

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Texas is called for... Yeah, yeah, yeah.

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More or less.

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For sure. Yeah, yeah.

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That's a bunch of the most brainwashed idiots ever. They don't know anything.

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Uh, they're simply lying to us. Real intelligence is

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observation in the universe of what's happening. They've spent

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so much time in Texas, Harris has spent so much time, they've been

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snickering they're gonna win. They've been

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pumping us full of illegals, they've been putting their people, they've got control of all the major

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cities. They're openly engaged in fraud. They just caught stealing a bunch of votes, uh, down in Houston.

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And they have been salivating, where we're all focused on the other battlegrounds and they flip Texas.

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The only other person I've heard really warning of this is Marjorie Taylor Greene with me.

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In the last two weeks she's been on twice. Now, this happened last time is they have so many

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baked-in fraudulent votes that j- that, s- like, they almost stor- stole Florida

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four years ago, that as it builds up, they run

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out of the votes in the Zuckerberg database, and then you see Cruz and others

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win. But we, we, we, we, we, it was a very close

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last time. A, big, and, and now they've been doubling down, so I'm literally

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sick at my stomach because if they ever steal Texas, they're never gonna let it go back again

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with this fraud. So I am, I am just totally

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disgusted, uh, and, and let's just pray. We gotta

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work harder and get these machines out, folks. Uh, Candace Orbach, your take on this.

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I'm shocked. I'm shocked. First, I guess, do you require ID in Texas to vote?

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Yeah, but the Secretary of State said people can vote with non-citizen IDs.

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Non-citizen IDs?

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'Cause the FBI said so. Yeah, I mean, look at that. Texas gone blue. I hope-

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No way.

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Yeah, well, they, they-

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But what happens? So what ha- if, if, if

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Texas goes blue-

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Th- they win hands-down by a giant landslide.

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But what is that for the future? That's cr- and then does it get invest- it has to be investigated?

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Wouldn't you imagine?

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Yeah, but they've, uh, they've already, th-

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the state stripped the power of the Attorney General Ken Paxton.

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He can investigate, but he can't prosecute, so they've defanged him.

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And again, Texas has 40 electoral votes.

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And is it possible even though the cities are blue-

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(laughs)

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... that that, that's still gonna still flip the state?

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'Cause i- doesn't the r- the real, rural counties have-

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Yeah, they come in later. Yeah, yeah.

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Yeah.

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But, but here's the thing. It gets closer each time. I'm just saying

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Harris and the Democrats have been pumping money into Texas and

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hovering over it. Big Tech's been pouring money in.

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I had no clue. I had just figured that Texas was just like California so that it-

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Wow.

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... wasn't even being looked at by the other side.

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Yeah, Cal- no, y- California used to be deeper red than Texas.

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Really?

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Just 40 years ago. Yeah, they just took it over with fraud.

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Has Texas ever gone blue?

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Uh, n- no. Not since, uh,

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not since, uh, Nixon.

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Whoa. And then, yeah, I agree. I think it seems really early

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for a lot of those states to be calling it already. So, why can't everyone else operate like Florida?

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Florida seems to ha- just have it smooth-

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Oh, yeah.

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... and figured out.

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It was all smooth-

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Florida hasn't figured out!

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... 2015. Now it takes weeks.

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Yeah. Everyone else takes-

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Obama was out today saying, "It's normal! 2020, it took a long time."

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No. No, no, no.

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Yeah, the new normal.

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Didn't Florida factor heavily into 2000, uh-

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I've, I've... She's sounded like-

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A lot of Alex's conspiracies about voting machines-... kind of a rooted in Florida.

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Yeah, yeah. I was, I was, the, based on the way she was sounding, I was thinking

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she was about to ask if they need an ID to get alcohol in Texas.

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Mm-hmm.

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Because that's th- how young she is sounding.

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She do- she is a younger lady. Um, her name is

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Candace Horbach, uh, and she has a podcast called Chatting with Candace.

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Okay.

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She is a former adult actor who decided to move out of that field and into podcasting.

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All right.

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Which is totally fine.

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Yeah, I like that.

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I'm not shitting on that at all.

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Okay.

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I listened to a little bit of an interview that she did somewhere else, and she

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seems like a perfectly thoughtful person.

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Sure.

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But in the context of InfoWars, she seems off.

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Yeah.

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And I kind of mean that as a compliment.

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No, she's asking way too many questions.

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Yeah.

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She's trying to get information as opposed to-

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Yeah. She's asking-

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... imply information.

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She's asking follow-up questions that you would expect someone to have conversationally.

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Yeah.

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But you don't realize that, like, Alex doesn't have an answer for you.

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Nope.

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And you're not supposed to do this.

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Yep.

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(laughs) This is not a conversation.

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It is, it is strange whenever people don't understand that questions are just

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hiding spots for lies.

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Hmm.

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She's like, "Oh, tell me more about this

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crazy information. How is it possible that Texas could go blue?" And Alex is like, "Shut the

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fuck u- I'm just s- laying groundwork."

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And it's really funny, too, 'cause if you're watching this, Alex is staring off

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at the camera and she's looking at him, and that really perfectly depicts-

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Ooh.

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... like, this vibe that's going on.

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Right, right, right.

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She's having a conversation, or thinks she is.

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Right.

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And Alex is yelling something.

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We're on TV.

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Exactly.

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Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

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Um, so all that shit Alex is saying is bullshit,

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but she doesn't really have much of a choice but to nod along

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whenever he gives an answer to one of her questions.

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Yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

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Or else she has to be like, "What are you talking about?"

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Right.

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And then this whole thing is off the rails.

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It's r- It falls apart immediately.

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Also, Nixon lost Texas in 1968 to Hubert Humphrey, uh, but then won it in '72.

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Sure.

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After that, Carter won Texas in 1976, and it's gone red in every general election since Reagan in 1980.

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Sure.

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This coverage is a perfect blend of made-up

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storylines, false interpretations, and then also demonstrably untrue facts-

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Yeah.

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... that just, uh...

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There you go.

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Just in the ether.

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That's what you need.

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So,

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I, I think that

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this woman, uh, Candace-

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Sure.

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... is

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kind of an interesting variable-

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Okay.

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... that gets thrown in.

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Yeah, I, I agree.

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Because like you're saying, she's asking some questions.

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Yeah.

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Sh- I don't think that she has good perspectives on stuff.

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Sure.

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I, I assume that I would disagree with on, her on almost everything.

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Sure.

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Um, but she's asking questions, which is not good. Uh, there's too many ideas.

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Yeah.

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And then I guess my question with Texas is, do you think that the reason

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why it was showing blue earlier on is because we had, like, this huge influx of people from California?

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Absolutely.

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And then it seemed like the government

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here was trying to almost make it really unfriendly

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from them, for them, and made it really, really conservative-

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(gasps)

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... to the point where now they're kind of rebelling?

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(laughs)

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Like, is that what you guys see happening?

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Well, I mean, a lot of the d- democrats, f- as you know, come here from

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California and other places just 'cause

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it's collapsed and they just want money. And they, they try to do different

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studies and statistics, maybe 30%-

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You mean like Joe Rogan?

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... wake up. But the majority still are just dumb and a box of rocks, and they come here and

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turn into San Francisco. And, and so, yeah, that's it.

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So then, do you think the solution would be to be less

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conservative so that it's more appealing to those people that are moving in?

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Like, still be republican, still be conservative, but instead of, like, trying to push them out by making

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it unfriendly, you maybe actually go a little bit more towards the middle?

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And then they are not-

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Yeah, w- w- the, the, the left don't even really

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know about issues, the average leftists. They just follow the orders of the party.

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Sure.

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And they're very politically dumb. And, and so there's no making

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deals with them. They just follow the corporate

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orders. It's like, "I'm liberal, I'm the anointed one, I love everybody. Now, do what I say, World War III,

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and cut kids' penises off." And, and it's just, it, it, it's just,

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they're corporate bots. It's all Black Rock

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social engineering programming. They just do what they're told. They're in a cult.

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So then how do you, h- you can't not let people

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come in the state, I suppose, unless you do, uh, secede (laughs) from the state.

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That's a very important question. Uh, we're gonna get back to that,

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uh, in a moment. Uh, let's, uh, go ahead and see if General Flynn's ready.

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Okay, um-

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Jesus Christ.

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... move along?

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General Flynn, great.

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So this is the sort of moment that gives me a little bit of pause about Candace.

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Mm-hmm.

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This is an actual question, which is super rare on Alex's show.

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Yeah.

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People are moving from California to Texas, and to punish them, Texas has gone

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super conservative, to the point where it's kind of unpleasant to live there for most humans.

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This seems antithetical to the supposed goal of creating a better state for people to live in.

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If the state insists on being hyper-conservative as a reaction to more

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liberal people moving to the state, then it stands to reason that this is just gonna create a backlash, where

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Texas goes blue eventually. So isn't it actually in the GOP's best interests to compromise a little bit

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and create a center-right power structure that's more durable than an extreme

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fringe one that they're trying to install, that's really, like, easy to

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f- fall apart?

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Sure.

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This question implies an ability to think and engage with an idea, which Alex doesn't do all that well with.

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Most of the people that he has on the show are more experienced with the game, and they wouldn't even

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ask a question like this, so Alex's only

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way to shut it down is to rattle off some buzzwords about how compromise isn't possible,

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his enemies aren't really even people, and then

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quickly jump to another subject. Their energies don't match at all.

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No.

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This is a bad vibe.

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You cannot be interested in the answer to your question.

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Mm-mm.

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That is-

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And she seems like she is.

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She really, genuinely would like to know.

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Mm-hmm.

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Which is the last thing you can do in this space.

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Mm-hmm.

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Like, it is, it is literally like, you understand that we're playing a game.

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Answers like the ones you're looking for

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shouldn't exist.

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Mm-mm.

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And we definitely don't want regular people knowing them.

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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So, we got General Flynn coming on, though.

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Great.

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We've also had Luke Rid-

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Rid-kow-ski.

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Okay, uh-

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Rad-dow- Rad-kow-ski.

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Hmm.

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Radow-sk- No, it's not Radowski,

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because that's what we'd have called him.

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I started this, started doing the I don't remember how to pronounce his name as a bit, because-

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To the point now where you don't remember how to pronounce his-

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I really don't know if I do.

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Yeah, I don't know how to pronounce his name either.

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But he's on, uh, somebody whose nickname is Don't Tase Me, was on with him.

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Like him.

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It's, uh- (laughs)

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Sounds great.

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Some chem trail whistleblower. He had a real roundtable of-

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Good stuff.

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... luminaries.

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Don't Tase Me, I love it.

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Uh, but General Flynn, uh, comes in, and he brings possibly... The stars are out. All right?

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Okay.

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That's what I'm saying.

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All right.

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The guy that, uh, th- the system fears. General Flynn, thank you and your busy schedule

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for briefly, uh, joining us to give us an update

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since we talked, uh, five, six hours ago. General, what's the latest?

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Yeah, so, uh, for everybody, and Alex, thank you so much. I have, joining me here, the owner of

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Papa John's Pizza. He's got about, what, 6,000 stores, right? 6,000-

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Y- Good to-

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Oh, yeah.

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Good to be here with General O'Trump.

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Yeah.

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He's got Papa John with him.

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(laughs) Hey, General Flynn, what's going on? Uh, I'm hanging out with, uh,

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Papa John, racist pizza guy. (laughs)

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You know,

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I may be r- pretty, pretty f- I mean, at this point, I'd l- among our

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listeners, at the very least, I'm known for being angry about things.

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Mm-hmm.

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Uh, from time to time. I don't know why, but General Flynn and Papa John together on election night?

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No.

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Mm-hmm.

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I d- no. I demand we all stand up and say no.

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Finally, it is time.

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Mm-hmm.

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To no longer be another brick in the wall, Dan.

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I-

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We say no to this.

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I felt like I had to take a breath. When e- when he went to Mike Flynn, and then Papa John is there-

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Mike Fl- Mike Flynn and Papa John? What does that even mean?

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I, I wa- I, I felt very similarly in that moment to how

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Alex must have felt when he went to interview, uh, the Belles-

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Yeah.

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... and Christopher Walken was there.

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Yeah.

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You know? (laughs)

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Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

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It's like that. (laughs)

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What is, what is happening?

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I think I'm going to just interview General Flynn. What's going on? Papa John is here. (laughs)

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What's going on, Papa John?

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I mean, I would say-

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Surprise guest.

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... I would say that if there was a president and

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Bozo the Clown standing next to each other, I would feel similarly, and I would ask Bozo so many questions.

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I would be far more interested in what he, his life.

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Yeah.

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It seems like a bit of a promotional opportunity for Papa John's.

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Maybe. Maybe. Is he... But he's not still involved with Papa John's, right? 'Cause he says the N-word a lot.

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I think publicly... I think publicly, he might be less of their mascot-

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Sure.

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... but I, I think he's the-

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He still owns the whole...

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... probably.

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Okay, probably.

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So Alex, here, here's where I think we're at.

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This is a, this is, and this is for your

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great audience, and when we were on earlier, Alex, I think we had over 250,000 viewers. We probably

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have doubled that number by the time-

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Who cares?

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... we get to this point. So I'm, I'm guessing-

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Oh, yeah, well, let me just tell you, that was one

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feed you were looking at. We had about, not

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counting our other systems, millions listening while you were on.

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Alex cares.

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Uh, now on our online-

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Right!

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... streams, there's five million people on them right now.

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Yeah, beautiful. I love it. Five million viewers, okay?

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Sitting here with Papa John. So Papa John's gonna owe me a couple of pizzas here, right?

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Oh my God.

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(laughs) This, this is

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MTV Spring Break in 1998. This is whenever there would just be-

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But, but bigots.

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Yeah, there would just be pool parties

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and MTV would just wander around the pool

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and be like, "Hey, what do you think about this?" to some random stranger-

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Uh-huh.

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... and they would give as insightful an answer as, "Maybe I should give you free pizza."

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Yeah, we have, uh, Mussolini hosting The Grind. (laughs)

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Yeah, absolutely, 100%. RIP. (laughs) The Grind.

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So,

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uh, we got, uh, just like...

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This, this should be on a shirt.

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We're about to win a major battle. Uh, I hope you're right, but the

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real war is about to start. Any closing comments from Papa John?

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Yeah, last thing. Go ahead.

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Totally agree, this is a good versus evil. I mean, we got... This is a good versus

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evil, I mean, no doubt about that and Trump's our guy, but we got the, the Super Bowl tonight

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and it's the Patriots versus the Steelers and Trump's our guy, but...

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So I just... I, I can't think of something that is beyond, uh... I can't think of something funnier than

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closing words from Papa John.

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Papa John, we're in the fourth quarter of a Patriots versus Steelers Super Bowl.

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Uh, not the Raiders Super Bowl with the, where the fumble

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and it was snowing. No, we're in the, the Patriots-Steelers Super Bowl

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and that's... I mean, w- Trump is like Jerome Bettis-

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Mm-hmm.

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... but before that, in the past.

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There we go.

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Uh, this is a battle between good and evil.

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(laughs)

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I am

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maybe

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wildly impaired-

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Sure.

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... uh, Papa John

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(laughs) hanging out with General Flynn.

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Oh. What did, what did you do last night? Ah, man, I was hanging out with drunk Papa John and Mike

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Flynn as we watched the results of the election.

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I think he might've been... I, I, I leave room that he might've been hungover. He just looked-

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That's fair.

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He looked like a rough creature.

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He looked a little haggard.

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Yeah.

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Okay, fair enough, fair enough.

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So I think that basically the plot of the night

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is there's a lot of "it's gonna be stolen"- kind of conspiracies early, just in case.

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Right. Sure.

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Uh, but that the mood becomes Trump's gonna win pretty

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smoothly.

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Right, right, right, right.

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There's this hiccup of, like, Texas could go blue.

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Sure.

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Uh, but then I think that a lot of the energy is kind of just, "It looks like Trump's gonna win."

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Oh, we're gonna... We're just gonna do it.

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Yeah, and th-

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Oh.

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They're getting all of their, uh, information and updates about the map and

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all this from mainstream media sources.

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Sure.

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And so, like, they can't even pretend that these sources are saying that-

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Nope.

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... he's not gonna win. And so they kind of

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get into a holding pattern of, "I guess he's... I guess he's gonna win." And so then the story becomes

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Owen getting really mad about how Trump needs to declare victory now-

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Sure. In order-

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... in case they try to steal it-

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Exactly.

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... right, by, by just having Harris declare victory beforehand.

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Right, or-

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And then the mainstream media will back her up.

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Or they're gonna, like, bring in all these illegal fake votes-

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Right.

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... late in the night when no one's paying attention, so Trump needs to declare now to shut that down.Right.

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Right. So that's-

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I mean-

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That becomes, like, kind of the way that they try to make things

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interesting at all, but it doesn't really work.

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No.

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It all just... It feels a little bit flat.

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Yeah.

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Yeah, no, it was nice. We, for, for a brief moment, the entire country shared a, uh, a reality together.

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That's nice.

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Sure.

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We all agreed on what was happening for a little bit.

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And I think we can share another reality, even with Harrison Smith

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and Alex's co-host Candace.

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Great.

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And that is, we're not interested in Alex's impressions.

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Great.

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Uh, Virginia is leaning Trump at this point, uh, by about half a percent, so again, still

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very, very, very close and we're, you know, less than an hour out from when polls closed. So

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uh, it's, uh, it's thrilling, but it's looking, it's looking better as we go.

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Man, if Trump gets in,

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this will be a day long remembered.

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(laughs)

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(laughs) Sorry.

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(laughs)

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(laughs)

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We're, we're too, we're too nervous to laugh right now. (laughs) Alex is still, still too close.

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Megatron, prepare to die.

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(laughs)

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(laughs)

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Jesus.

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No, it's, uh, it's, it's looking good, uh...

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Looking good. No one's in the mood for that shit, and Alex is doing a Darth Vader

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impression where he was celebrating having killed

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Obi-Wan Kenobi, who i-... It is inc- unquestionably a villainous moment.

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Yeah.

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Alex's mind goes to that because he wants the empire

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to rise, and seeing Trump's favorable results, it excites him in a way that reminds him of

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Darth Vader crushing the rebels in Star Wars.

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Right.

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The fact that this is a little too obvious is probably why you get this uncomfortable laughter from Harrison

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and Candace because it's like, oh, come on, man.

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Or it could just not be funny.

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It's that too.

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Yeah. I mean, it's not funny. And-

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No, and if you're Harrison, you've heard this a lot.

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Oh, God. Oh.

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He does this impression and-

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It never stops.

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Yeah.

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I mean, even Harrison is probably like, "Man, you understand that the theme of that exact scene is that

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by indulging in the murder, he is sealing his own fate."

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Hmm.

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Mm-hmm. And he's not, he's not, uh, one to be emulated.

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Yeah, yeah.

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He's not good.

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It's bad.

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Yeah.

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Yeah, even if you are, even if you are emulating him, the lesson is you're going

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to... By doing this, you are failing.

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But maybe you're succeeding because Darth Vader then kills the Emperor and helps Luke win.

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Sure, but then he dies in the Death Star.

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Yeah, but he's got to.

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Fair enough.

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Yeah.

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I'll give you that. (laughs)

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(laughs)

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Alex, you're gonna die in the Death Star.

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You're gonna die in the Death Star.

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So I just have a couple more clips of this dynamic between Alex and Candace.

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Yeah.

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The, the... Beyond the, like, Rogan's been bullshitting this whole time.

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Yeah.

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That kind of moment is very, like... That to me is interesting about this, this coverage.

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Yeah.

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And there's stuff like, you know, Steven Crowder and him

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simul-streamed and Alex took off his shirt to try and get attention.

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That's sad.

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Yeah.

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That is genuinely sad.

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I've seen him rip off his shirt when he's drunk-

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Yeah.

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... and it's kind of sad, but also, like, I get what's going on here.

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Yeah.

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This was a man who was self-aware as he was taking off his shirt-

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Yeah.

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... that, like, "I just want attention and maybe someone will make a meme of this."

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Yep.

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And it really bummed me out. He was just trying to sell sea moss.

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Yeah.

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Um...

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Yeah, he's a sadder Bert Kreischer.

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Mm-hmm.

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Uh.

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Yeah.

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Eh.

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Uh, both have involvement with Russians. (laughs)

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That's true. (laughs)

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So, uh, Alex and, uh, Candace's vibe was probably one of the few things that I was like, "Ah,

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I'm, I'm paying attention here."

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Yeah.

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Uh, so here's one clip of Alex explaining, uh, something about Kamala Harris-

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Okay.

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... to, uh, to Candace.

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And that's why when her teleprompter goes off, she doesn't know what to do, 'cause she's like, "I'm just here

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to push some agenda." So they're not looking

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for anyone that actually is gonna create any change or that's gonna serve the American

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people. They have the idea that we, the people, somehow owe them our freedom.

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Candace Owens was on last week, and

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she did the deep dive on her...

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And, uh, I've, I've read dozens of books on

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MKUltra and the congressional hearings and interviewed a lot of guests over the

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years, but I, I hadn't really done a deep dive on her genealogy

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like Candace did. And when she talked about it, I looked it up, it's

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true. H- her whole family's like CIA, she was connected to an MKUltra program.

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And when she said it, I went, "Wait, that's why

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she's always different personalities," where it doesn't seem like the same person and is an empty vessel.

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And, and, and we know Obama's whole family was

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CIA. And, and of course that's the project, is put your people in. So, I don't know if

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she's MKUltra, but definitely she's connected to all that.

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I had no idea.

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(laughs)

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It's, it's crazy. Absolutely wild. But as soon as she said it, it clicked, then I went look it up.

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I mean, no, that would make a lot of sense.

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That would make a lot of sense.

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You (laughs) credulous idiot.

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Yeah.

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Oh, oh, you sweet idiot.

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See-

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Jesus Christ.

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This is that issue of, like, she's clearly demonstrated an ability to ask follow-up questions-

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Yeah.

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...

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and, and have some kind of a, a engagement with an idea.

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Yeah.

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But at the same time, she is on with Alex.

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Yeah.

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Which is a choice that she made-

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Sure.

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... which is bad.

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True.

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And then she has to, like, hear that barrage of nonsense, and what do you do? What do you do? Do you like, you-

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I mean, she engages with it the way that you're supposed to engage with a, a superior legend.

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Mm-hmm.

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Where she's like, "Oh, wow, that's information you've told me."

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Mm-hmm.

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You know, that's the way you're supposed to engage with somebody-

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Yeah.

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... who is supposedly, uh, uh, above you in the, in the pecking order.

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Yeah, there's ama- an amount of credibility that's given to these nonsensical things Alex says-

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Totally.

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... which is, which is unfortunate.

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Yeah.

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Um, it's also... I mean, it's really unfortunate because there's not much behind what Alex is saying.

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Oh, almost nothing.

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And if, if she were to

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really interrogate some of this stuff, I think that maybe she would realize that she's talking to an idiot.

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Yeah. This is game changing. This is, this is game changing.

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I just wanna say, thank God if this... uh, thank God

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for, for the Great Awakening and, and ha- whatever God's plan is. But

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thank God... Candace Horbach, you've been sitting

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here for 20 minutes while we're ranting. Wha- you're be-

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you're getting pretty excited. What are you making of this?

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No, I was gonna say, can we explain the significance of this to the people? Because everyone's really

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just looking at Trump and Kamala, so the significance of the seat?

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Well, if we win the Senate, which it looks like it's been done now, so, um... and the

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half the states are, aren't reporting, then we'll probably get more seats. And so, we

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gain in the House and the Senate, then Trump gets Senate, it's called the trifecta.

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Hmm.

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We have the legislative,

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uh, we have the executive, and we have the judicial.

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And, uh, then we can actually purge the Deep State legally and lawfully

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with the trifecta. Um, uh, uh, I mean, I'm sure you got that, but m- you're wanting me to define it for people?

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Yeah, yeah, yeah. No, and I think that's really exciting too, because it's really hard

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even if you have someone that you want to win that gets the

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presidential election. If he i- has everyone working against him, it's like, how much

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change can he actually, um, be effective with? So, yeah, that's really great news.

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Exactly, so he, I mean, he needs the, the infrastructure, the runway.

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Mm-hmm, exactly, so that's really good.

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So, how are you feeling right now?

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So, this is... I mean, I think it's indicative of, like, what they're doing. This is not serious.

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(laughs) No.

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This is a person who is your co-host for the night, who is asking you

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about what does it mean that the Senate races are happening.

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Yeah.

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That's not good.

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No.

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And then Alex's answer that he gives to that is so surface level and so

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meaningless

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that

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it i- it reveals that he doesn't have much engagement-

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No.

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... not with any of what these results mean or-

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No.

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... or anything. He just knows red good, blue bad.

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Yeah.

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Um, and, uh, "If we take control of all the branches of government, we'll be able to change what is legal."

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Yeah.

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"The Constitution can be amended, you dicks."

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Yeah.

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"We can just do that."

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Yeah, that's how it works.

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And so he's-

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Laws aren't real. (laughs)

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Right. So, he's, he's, uh, giving a shallow answer-

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Yeah.

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... to a question that she's asking that reveals a complete non-awareness of the

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reality of the election, uh, beyond the superficial optics-

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Yeah.

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... and the social media bullshit that, uh, probably is a large part of her information base.

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Yeah.

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And so, you have a not serious situation here. And then you have,

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"Let's go talk to fucking General Flynn. Oh, he's hanging out with Papa John.

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Oh, let's go talk to Steven Crowder, I'll take my shirt off to sell sea moss."

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This isn't serious, is what I'm saying.

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Sure, sure. I mean, you know, it doesn't matter though.

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It doesn't.

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Like, for them,

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even if it i- you know, there's no need to, because it's a battle of good and evil.

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In the battle of God versus the devil, you're not like,

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"Oh, how's ar- how's Archangel Michael doing?" You know? Like, you don't care, it's God versus the devil.

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Well,

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if, if you're serious about the devil, or God, you should care about how Archangel Michael's doing.

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(laughs)

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I, I mean,

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I don't even know how to begin responding to those collections of thoughts put together. (laughs)

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If there is a balance of power-

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Right.

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... and, uh, uh, um, you know, checks and balances-

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Sure.

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... that Archangel Michael has-

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Sure.

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... maybe you should care a little. But I get what you're saying to it.

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I, I understand, but Dan, you're why

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we have

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fucking, uh, uh, uh, uh, trade embargoes in The Phantom Menace, man.

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Mm-hmm.

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I don't give a shit about trade embargoes.

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Hmm.

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I don't give a shit!

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Well, uh, ironically, we'll probably see a number of the, that mirrored in the real world.

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That's, it seems right. (laughs)

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(laughs)

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And probably a lot of racist accents in the future.

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Uh-huh.

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Yeah.

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And, um, you are gonna be Jar Jar Binks. (laughs)

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No, wait. No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no.

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Look at the hair.

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No, no, no.

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Look at the headband.

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I'm, I'm Greg Proops, I'm the announcer doing, uh, doing pod racing.

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Mm-hmm.

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It's a flabba dabba doo doo ri- Yeah, that's me. That's what I'm gonna do.

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All right.

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I'll do it.

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I guess I'm the other head guy then, right?

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Exactly. We got two heads-

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The other, the other race announcers.

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... we're, we're just... Right, we're just doing it.

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Fuck.

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(laughs)

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I don't wanna be on that, uh... That's Tatooine, right?

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Yeah, yeah.

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I don't wanna be on that planet.

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Okay, all right.

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It's too dry.

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Uh.

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I don't like sand, it gets everywhere.

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(laughs)

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Wait, am I Anakin? Oh, no!

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Oh, no! (laughs)

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(laughs)

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You just murdered Obi-Wan.

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Shit.

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(laughs)

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Anyway, um, I don't really want to spend a whole lot of time on the full, uh, uh, stream.

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Yeah, yeah.

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'Cause I don't really think it's all that interesting.

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Sure.

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And, uh, my time's limited, uh, at the moment. So, we'll get back for Monday with a little bit of regrouping

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and seeing how, uh, the chips have fallen with Alex.

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Sure.

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Um, but, but yeah, I think this, uh, was kind of

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uninspired on Alex's part. And I hope that, uh, between this and the coming auction, he's able to

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get to a point where there's a point.

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Yeah. I, I think, uh, one thing that I think people need to understand

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most about the media and the politicians in this particular circumstance is that the fun

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is in not winning.

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Um, uh, for Alex, yeah.

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See what I'm saying? Like, the fun is in being, like,

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not responsible for anything that's going on, "Oh, it's their fault."

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Right.

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The fun is in being like, "These people are bad."

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The fun is not in being like, "We should do stuff." That sucks.

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Well, the, well, the fun is also in the, like, "We have to stop the steal."

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Yeah, exactly.

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You know, and, and you could tell there was a little bit of a disappointment how uneventful-

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Yeah.

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... uh,

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revealing of the results and, uh, all of that was-

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Totally.

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... for them in the moment.

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Totally.

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It was like, "We've gotta create some kind of drama here. Um, is Trump's plane gonna blow up? Oh." All right.

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Their best re- their best result is Trump wins the

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Electoral College (laughs) and loses the popular vote, 'cause then they can do the whole thing-

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Mm-hmm.

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... of like, "It was secretly stole..." blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. You know, that whole thing.

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Honestly, their best result is probably, like, if something happens and Trump doesn't make it to office.

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Sure.

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Like, he dies of old age or something.

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Sure, sure.

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And then they can make a conspiracy out of that, and then-

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That would be great.

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... Vance is disappointing, so he's kind of like the enemy.

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Oh, no. He'd be so effective at-

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Well, he would.

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(laughs)

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But not from a-

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Sure.

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... like, a media perspective.

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Sure.

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Like, Alex would be unsatisfied by what he presents.

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Sure. Sure.

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And so, he could pretend like we need to go further-

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Yeah.

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... or whatever.

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Anyway, we'll see what happens, but, uh, we have a website.

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Indeed we do, it's knowledgefight.com.

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