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Hello, Alex. I'm a first-time caller. I'm a huge fan. I love your work.
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Knowledge fight.
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I love you.
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Hey, everybody. Welcome back to Knowledge Fight. I'm Dan.
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I'm Jordan.
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We're a couple of dudes that sit around, worship at
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the altar of Selene, and talk a little bit about Alex Jones.
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Oh, indeed we are, Dan. Dan.
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Jordan. Jordane.
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Quick question for you.
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'Sup?
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What's your bright spot today, buddy?
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You brought me all this Halloween candy.
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Yay.
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Uh, that's, uh, very nice. Halloween is upon us.
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I was gonna get dressed up but I decided not to put in the effort.
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(laughs) Nah, fair enough.
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I thought it'd be a payoff that was quite small.
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Wouldn't be good enough.
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Um, but yeah, I was, uh, I was, uh, out in my, my lobby and I ran into some kids in costumes.
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Mm-hmm.
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And I remembered it was Halloween, and then it struck me that I wasn't gonna have any candy.
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So it was very nice that you, uh, you brought some Nerds.
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Uh, I'm, I'm a little suspicious about these Warheads.
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Yeah.
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I'm worried about this.
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Yeah.
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'Cause I'm, I'm not a huge sour guy.
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I, I was, I was thinking as I, as I was going through stuff, I was like, "What is
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something that Dan would be like, 'Ah, I wouldn't do this'"-
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Mm-hmm.
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... "on his own?"
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Trying to, trying to push the boundaries a little bit.
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I'm trying to, I'm trying to open and see what you got, what you, what you
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wouldn't choose but you would choose if you had known you should've chosen it.
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Okay. Well, I'll put you to the test.
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That's what I'm saying.
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While you are telling me what your bright spot is-
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I got plenty.
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... I will try one of these.
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Give it a shot. Uh, my bright spot is, I went to a World Series baseball game. Uh, it was a gift
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given to me by, uh, my wife's moms. It was, it was
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one of those
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perfect experiences. It really was. Where, like, if you're giving a gift to somebody that's an experience,
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you want them to have... First off, you want them to have a good experience. You don't want them to suddenly
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be like, "I'm not gonna respond to your face." Uh-
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(laughs)
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... to, to the audience, his face, it is not going well.
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(laughs)
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This is not a candy that this man would choose.
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Was I, was one of my eyes twitching-
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This is-
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... a little bit? Maybe.
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This is a, this is a perfect example of what I'm not describing.
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(laughs)
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When you get somebody something, you want them to enjoy it.
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Mm-hmm.
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And you want to... And if it's an experience, you know,
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there's so many things that could go wrong that are just-
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Yeah.
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... outside your control. You don't, you want, "Oh, I b- I got you this ticket-"
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You get someone ballet tickets and the person, the lead dies on stage. (laughs)
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Something... Yeah, any number of things. Or just, like, oh, the flight was delayed-
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Mm-hmm.
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... and even though the game is still gonna happen, I'm not gonna
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fly back and fly... You know, that whole thing.
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Any number of things could go wrong, or some terrible thing could just mess up the experience.
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Yeah.
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And then when you go to talk to the person about it, you're like, "Well, I had a great time. Except..."
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"But."
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Yeah.
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"Thank you."
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And then-
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"I appre- I, I appreciate your generosity but also"-
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Totally.
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"... I had the worst time ever."
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"This was the worst day of my life."
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"I lost-"
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"Thank you. Everything you mean was amazing."
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"Mm-hmm. I lost a day and I am totally scarred."
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Totally. Yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah. It was that... But this was just
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great.
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Yeah.
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From beginning to end, no... I, I... Also, people in New York City are very nice.
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They're very nice.
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You heard it here first.
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I, I think all of these cities that we've been to, and I've been to
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a lot now around the world, that have this idea of, like, "We're a
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nat- We're... Our, our pride in our city is tough."
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Mm-hmm.
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You just have hunger. You're hungra- Feed people, everybody is nice when they're not hungry.
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Yeah.
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Just feed people.
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I guess that's probably tr- I mean, you're just basically turning a, sort of a charitable message-
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(laughs)
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... into a Snickers commercial.
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Yeah, no. I'm challenging your, your-
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You think-
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... city identity as being, like, "Oh, we're
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tough New Yorkers." You're nice, but you're hungry. Eat something.
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Hungry? Why wait?
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Civic... No, civic duty, remove civic pride and replace it with civic everybody's eating.
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Chew it over with a Twix.
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Oh, my God, you're gonna get me killed.
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Chew these social issues over with a Twix.
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It was a great, great time.
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No, that's awesome.
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It was perfect. It was a perfect gift.
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I'm glad, uh, I'm glad you had a good time.
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Yeah.
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And, um, I'm glad you got to see Ohtani, you know.
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It was-
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Like, that's something that I probably
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would assume is, like, a... If you didn't get to, at some point, it would drive you nuts.
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I saw him whenever the White Sox played his first year in the league.
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I think I actually already knew that and-
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But that was-
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... I apologize that I forgot.
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... that was also, uh, uh, some COVID stuff.
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Mm.
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So
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there was a whole thing going on. Uh, and I'd lost my job. It was a mess. (laughs)
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Hmm.
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But, uh... (laughs)
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And the Ota- Ohtani of then is not the same, uh, uh, superhuman that he is now.
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No, he was.
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Oh, shit.
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Yeah. He was, he was-
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All right.
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... in fact arguably more superhuman because he was still pitching and
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hitting at the same time.
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Sure.
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But he hadn't hit 50 home runs and stolen 50 bases. He'd only broken some records-
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Right.
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... at the time, as opposed to the more co- comprehensive all-records that will be broken later.
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That is different.
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Yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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Well, I'm, I'm glad you had a good time.
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Yeah.
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But, uh, we talked, uh, before the show, and you mentioned that, uh, you didn't get a hot dog. And so-
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Didn't.
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... I'm furious at you.
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Peanuts and beer is what you eat at a ballpark.
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I am 100%-
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(laughs)
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... the opposite. I think you need to get a hot dog.
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Ugh.
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'Cause, like, it... I feel like baseball stadiums, they have their, their hot dogs.
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Sure.
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Right?
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Sure.
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And it's kind of, like, a signature thing.
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They do.
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Um.
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A lot of them, yeah.
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But I also have looked them up before, and I think a lot of them look gross.
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Yep.
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So I wouldn't-
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They are.
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... I wouldn't necessarily want to get one.
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Mm-hmm.
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But I feel like New York's got to be a classic Coney, right? It's got to be a foot-long hot dog.
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No.
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No?
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No. You're not getting that.
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Chili dog.
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You, if you wanted that, you would have to go back in time
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to whenever they didn't charge you $7,000 for the size of...
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(laughs) You, you, you-
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Only $7,000 for a hot dog?
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Only $7,000 in New York.
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Can't believe that city is hunger.
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I mean, it's crazy. (laughs)
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(laughs)
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So, uh, Jordan, today we have an episode to go over.
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Yes.
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Where I, I said on the last episode we're gonna get up to current. Um, but here's the issue.
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Okay. (laughs)
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What does that mean?
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That is a really good question.
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Today's current is not tomorrow's current.
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True.
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It doesn't matter.
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True.
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Um, so we've taken a Zen approach to being up to date, uh, towards the election.
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Right, right, right. Where we are is only time-based in relation to how fast everybody's moving.
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Mm-hmm.
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So in a theoretical sense, we're just moving slower-
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Right.
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... thereby making time and distance the same.
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Definitely.
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Yep.
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Um, so we're gonna be talking about October 25th through 28th.
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Uh, this is a little bit of time where, uh, Trump has gone on Rogan.
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Uh-huh. (laughs) Oh my God, that's right.
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And also, Trump does his Madison Square Garden rally.
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That's right. The Nazi rally. Yeah.
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Well, not according to Alexis.
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Oh, okay.
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So we'll get down to business on this. Uh,
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but before we do, let's take a little moment to say hello to some new wonks.
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Ooh, that's a great idea.
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So first, goodbye, Dr. Jones. There's a hole in your logic.
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Uh, you who knew all the answers. Thank you so much. You're now a Policy Wonk.
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I'm a Policy Wonk.
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Thank you very much.
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Thank you. Next, Carl in New Zealand. Thank you so much. You're now a Policy Wonk.
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I'm a Policy Wonk.
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Thank you very much.
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Thank you. Next, Zephod Beeblebrox
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ate Dan's family's ice cream and loved it. Thank you so much. You're now a Policy Wonk.
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I'm a Policy Wonk.
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Thank you very much.
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Thank you. And we got a technocrat in the mix, Jordan, so thank you so much too. Uh, to Dave in
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Canberra, you're not alone in your fight against cancer. Lean
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on the people around you for love and support. We're all here
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for you. Uh, love, Kai. Thank you so much. You're now a technocrat.
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I'm a Policy Wonk.
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Four stars. Go home to your mother and tell her you're brilliant.
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Someone, someone sodomite sent me a bucket of poop.
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Daddy shark, bom, bom.
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Jar Jar Binks has a Caribbean Black accent. He's a loser
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little, little titty baby. I don't wanna hate Black people. I renounce Jesus Christ.
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Thank you.
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Yes, thank you very much.
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Go get 'em, Dave.
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Yeah.
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Um, so we start off this episode on the 25th, and that is, uh, the day that Trump is gonna be on Rogan.
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Right.
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The episode comes out later in the day.
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Uh-huh.
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It hasn't happened yet. And I do wanna make one thing clear. I haven't played these
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clips, um, because I don't really care.
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Okay.
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But Alex has been ahead of the story that Trump was gonna be on Rogan.
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Right.
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He did know in advance.
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Yeah.
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And he talked about it pretty openly, saying, "Some source told me that Trump is gonna be on Rogan."
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I mean, it was m- yeah.
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Before anyone knew.
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Sure.
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So, like, he actually
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did have that inside scoop.
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Well, may- he should. He should have.
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Yeah.
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If he didn't, then fuck him even more.
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Right, right.
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Yeah.
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But I, I just wanna say, I, you know, I didn't play any of those clips, and I wanna give him a,
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like, "Oh, he had the scoop on this one."
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Right, right, right.
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His friend told him a thing.
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Yeah, yeah, yeah. His friend is the guy who... Sh- shut up.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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So anyway, Harris, though. Kamala Harris.
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Yeah.
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She's too afraid.
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Of course.
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Trump is criss-crossing the nation. It's amazing. He's on Joe Rogan
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now in the afternoon today. It was gonna be this morning.
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Now it starts about 1:00 PM today.
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They're gonna tape it. They don't usually go live. They have technical difficulties sometimes.
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I get it, live's hard.
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And it should be out by 4:00 this afternoon.
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Right down the street from here.
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I have the inside baseball on that.
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Kamala Harris, here's the headline, is barnstorming
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Texas.
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Why is Kamala Harris barnstorming Texas?
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Uh, but she's not going on Joe Rogan.
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Yup, she chickened out. But so they c- wouldn't say that.
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They continued to change the times and change the days over and over again, and then just
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didn't respond to Rogan. I was told, not by Rogan.
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Sources.
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So, uh,
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she totally chickened out.
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I think Rogan told him that.
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Yeah, that would probably make sense.
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Uh, I, I don't, I don't think it's a winning idea for her
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to go on Rogan. I don't think she stands to gain a large, uh,
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portion of whatever audience she might reach that way.
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Like, I, I don't know. Is Trump expected to go on Call Her Daddy?
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I don't know.
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(laughs)
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I don't know. I mean, what, uh, but, but
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what are we gonna do? It's, it's hard not to look at that and be like, "Oh.
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Well, the lady choice went on the lady podcast and the dude choice went on the dude podcast. Great."
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Mm-hmm.
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"Great, everybody. We're an eighth grade dance of a country."
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I, I think that-
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Crushing it.
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... th- that is an unfortunate optic
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thing that you're looking at. But I also think that, at least in the case of Harris...
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Sure.
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I'm not certain she could have a productive conversation
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on Rogan's podcast.
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Okay.
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Uh, I think she could-
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Sure.
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... on Call Her Daddy.
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Sure.
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Whereas,
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eh, I don't know if Trump could have a productive conversation anywhere. (laughs)
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I was gonna say, I don't th- Is, is, is, is the Rogan podcast where you
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go for productive conversation? What if she just-
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If you-
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... went on there and shit-talked for a while? That would do more than if she had a policy position. Fuck off.
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Maybe, but I think that you could ma- Ugh, hmm.
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I d- I don't know if that works into, like,
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for her benefit, though, going on there and talking a bunch of shit. Maybe it would.
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I mean, at this point, nobody is doing
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anything for their benefit, from what I can see. Everyone is behaving as dumb as possible.
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Well, I, I, I would, I would counter the framing that Alex has of, like, she chickened out.
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Yeah, I would probably say-
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I think it might be a decent decision.
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Yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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I think you could... I think if I were in her campaign, I could hear an argument to go on and to not.
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Sure.
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I think that there is, there's decent reasons to do either.
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Yeah, I think if she was not her, going on would make sense, but since she is her, it wouldn't make sense.
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Mm-hmm.
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Yeah. Anyway, uh, the Madison Square Garden rally is coming up, right?
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Mm-hmm.
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And, uh, you,
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I don't know why, you said it was a Nazi rally.
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I, it's a weird thing to, to mention.
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And Alex does not appreciate that kind of tone.
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Strange.
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He thinks you're, he thinks you're a dick, honestly.
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Feels, feels like a Nazi rally.
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And you've got every channel,
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every major newspaper, I've just got stacks of them right here.
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Trump is gonna use the military on you, Trump is gonna kill you.
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And then when Trump starts rounding up the MS-13 gangs and others
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and deporting their criminal asses,
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the left's gonna activate them to rise up. Everybody knows it,
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you've seen it, and now they've pre-programmed for it. And you talk about thin, no
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connection to Hitler. In the '30s, the American Nazi Party, the Bund,
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had a rally at Madison Square Garden. There's famous black-and-white footage of it.
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And so now, because Trump is gonna have a rally in New
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York, something the Clintons have done,
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the Bushes have done, Obama's done at Madison Square Garden, well, he's at the same
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building, so he is Hitler. Wow, that's really powerful information.
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That's like saying, if you ever walked in a county courthouse for a court hearing
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on taxes or something and you walk through the same doors that
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a child molester has, or a murderer,
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you are now the murderer.
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Whoa. Thin, no connection to Hitler. Who's he talking about, the Slender Man?
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(laughs)
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(laughs)
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(laughs)
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I would, I would argue that perhaps the difference between
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the rallies previous that were held by the Clintons-
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Mm-hmm.
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... and Obamas and the Bushes, uh, were not Nazi rallies for one reason only.
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They did not invite a lot of Nazis to those rallies.
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That's o- that's one, um, definite difference-
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Yeah.
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... I think.
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Yeah, yeah. Whereas this rally,
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huge invitee list,
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all Nazis.
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Mm-hmm. And, and, and, you know, you kinda do gotta give him a little bit of credit
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for the basis of the argument, which is that
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if you host a rally at Madison Square Garden, that doesn't make you a Nazi.
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That is true.
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We begin from a kernel of agreement.
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Agreed.
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Uh, it's just a venue.
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Yep.
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You could, uh, host any kind of, uh, uh, thing you want there.
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Basketball, even.
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So if you wanna make the argument that this event is reminiscent of the 1939 Madison Square
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Garden meeting of the American Bund, then what you would need to do, and,
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and I think this is kind of what you're attempting to do here-
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Sure. Sure, sure.
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... is you need to illustrate that this is more deeply entwined with that American Bund history.
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Right, perhaps there are more similarities.
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Yeah, what type of parallels exist between these two beyond the
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easily ignorable surface-level fact that they took place at the same venue?
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Sure.
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So I'm gonna ask you this, Jordan.
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Yeah.
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Who said this? Quote, "Americanism should be returned to the Christians who
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founded it. We must defy those who turned this country into a Bolshevik paradise."
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Yeah.
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Um-
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Was that somebody from Trump's rally-
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Right.
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... or was that in 1939?
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All right, so was it Lindbergh or Gorka? Is that the game we're playing? (laughs)
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I'm asking you.
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I'm, I'm gonna go with, uh, there's no way to tell beyond 50/50, so I'm gonna go with, uh, present day.
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Hmm. It was Fritz Kuhn, the leader of the American
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Bund, at his Madison Square Garden rally in 1939, but it's essentially the
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same message that animates the current Trump movement in the rally that he held at the same location.
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Yeah, I guess the only difference would be maybe they wouldn't use the word Bolshevik as much.
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Maybe not.
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But even still, they still used the word Bolshevik sometimes.
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Sometimes.
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Yeah.
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Yep.
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Yeah.
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Obviously, there are aesthetic differences that you can point out that are fair.
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Uh, there were a lot more swastikas in 1939.
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Sure.
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And there were a lot of, uh, Nazi salutes going on.
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The speeches were very overt in how much they hated Jewish people, and they blamed Jewish people
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for every wrong in the world. And that sort of messaging doesn't work, uh, well
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publicly for Trump people in 2024. But if you strip away a
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little of that aesthetic cover, you'll see how
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similar these two events were from a content perspective.If you just substitute the word globalist for
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Jewish and patriotic for gentile, it's really hard to tell
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a lot of these messages what rally you're at. For instance, Kuhn, in his, uh, address at the 1939 event,
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uh, uh, he ended that with a list of platforms that he's fighting for.
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And one of the main ones is, quote, "Gentiles in
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all positions of importance in government, national defense, and educational institutions."
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Swap that one word out and you have the same messaging at both rallies there.
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Sure.
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But here are some of his platforms that you don't even need to swap the words out.
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Uh,
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g- gun to your head, try and imagine like if you could make a confident decision
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whether these were from the present day or from the American Bund rally-
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All right.
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... in 1939.
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Quote, "Outlawing of the Communist Party in the United States, prosecution of all
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known communists for high treason."
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No clue.
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Quote, "Immediate cessation of the dumping of all political refugees on the shores of the United States."
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I mean, no clue.
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Quote, "A thorough cleaning of the Hollywood film industries of all alien subversive activities."
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I think that one actually was 1939.
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Uh, it, it was, but it, uh-
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I think... I think that one I do know. (laughs)
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The subversive, uh,
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that's a dated word, but-
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(laughs) I was gonna say, it's the language.
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Yeah.
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They don't, they don't know how to use that word anymore. (laughs)
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It's, it's not the idea of what it's pushing for, it's the word.
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Right. Right, exactly. (laughs)
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Quote, "Cessation of all abuse of the freedom of the pulpit, press, radio, and stage."
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Could be
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a good...
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I mean, I don't think they're using stage these days.
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No.
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No.
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Quote, "A return of our government to the policies of George Washington.
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Aloofness from foreign entanglements, severance of all connections with the League of Nations."
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Sure, sure.
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That's also dated because of the League of Nations.
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The League of Nations, yeah, yeah.
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But if you put the EU, UN in there...
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I mean, i- i- it's no way... there's no way to compare the League of Nations to some sort of
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United Nations that, uh, e- exists currently
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that would, uh, would also be able to like Mad Libs its way around.
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Yeah, so Fritz Kuhn laid out eight policy platforms at the end of his speech, and I could make a
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very strong argument that seven of them are directly mirrored by the Trump messaging.
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And the, the other one was, "Segregation now, segregation forever," right?
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No, that was another guy though. It's like...
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Oh, that was a different guy? Okay.
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Yeah. So one of these platforms is about gentiles controlling labor unions, which I think
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gets a little bit murky in terms of present day conservative politics around labor.
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Sure.
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But if you completely ignore that one, there's still seven out of eight that are directly mirrored by Trump.
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Sure.
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This is the more important reason that people compare Trump's rally
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to the 1939 Bund rally. It's not because they took place at the same venue, it's because
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they were working toward a common cause. Trump's people made the decision to
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hold this rally at Madison Square Garden, at least in part because they were aware of these
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very obvious optics and were playing into it somewhat. And on an optics level, it's really easy to hand
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wave away the similarities, the way Alex is doing here. However, on a more
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meaningful level, Trump's rally is the spiritual successor to this Bund rally.
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Yeah.
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And part of making those optics obvious is that
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someone trying to play defense like Alex just has to say, "Oh, because they're at the same place?"
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Yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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And all of a sudden, if you don't think through the argument that you're making, you might
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be like, "Oh, there's some pushback. I'm gonna, uh... I'm gonna abandon this line of thought-"
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Yeah.
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"... because Alex has now made me stup- uh, feel stupid."
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Yeah, it's the, The Serious Cybernetics Corporation from, uh, Douglas Adams. The, the
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superficial flaws are so bad that they mask the fundamental horrible flaws within.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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Yeah, so that's, um... I, I mean, I, I don't have much else to say other than like it was...
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They did a Nazi rally.
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Hey, everybody.
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(laughs)
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If... In form and function, it's tough to really look at it any other way.
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So Alex has some beliefs about what the Dems are gonna do.
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(laughs) Sorry, I just... I was just remembering some of the interviews that I did.
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Oh.
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(laughs)
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So-
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I'm the idiot.
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So Trump, uh, is gonna win.
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Yeah.
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And then the Dems, what they're gonna do-
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Yep.
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... is they're not gonna certify the election.
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Mm-hmm.
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That's what Trump tried to do last time.
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Right.
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So they're planning to do it now.
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Right.
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The Democrats have said in their policy reports and statements
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that they are going to not certify Trump, hold up the election
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in the key
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battleground states in blue cities they control with their election officials,
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put in by Soros, who get rewarded to be the governors of Arizona after they
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steal the elections from Kari Lake and trump the American people.
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They're just duplicating it everywhere. Kamala
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will then sit and decide on the non-certification of Trump as the VP,
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they've already announced they're planning to do
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that. And you say, "Well, how will they politically get away with that?"
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During the contested election, that they now say will go on for several weeks after November
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5th, in the 76 days of hell you've heard me harping on...
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for years this was coming, now we're here.
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And the political experts on with me, "Oh, Alex,
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we'll cross that bridge when we get to it."
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Well, if you're not gonna expose the enemy's plan, you're gonna lose.
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That's why we're tomorrow's news today.
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You don't think the globalists aren't projecting out in the future and planning for the future? And
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y- y- y- y- you go where you want to go and you win in the present
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by planning and preparing the future, but we're trained to live in the moment, aren't we?
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Well, I certainly enjoy the moment,
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but I live by studying the past,
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the present, and then projecting the future. That's what I do.
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Undoubtedly, hands down, it's just a fact, so people recognize us, we can get out of this, the best futurist
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in the world.
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That's really what I am.
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(laughs)
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Not the fake pop future they put out, the real future they wanna build, and the globalists-
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Oh. Uh-huh.
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... are almost in total control. So the dystopia they say they wanna build is what we're gonna live in
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if we just sit here and give them all the power-
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Sure.
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... and engage in this abdication
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of our rights.
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I think I played that clip ju- like, as a whole just so you could hear him get to that thought in context.
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Yep.
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Like, 'cause if you just hear a drop of him saying,
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"Hands down, it's just a fact, I'm the best futurist in the human race..."
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You expect him to say something like that.
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Yeah, and out of context as just like an isolated drop-
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Yeah.
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... it, it doesn't, it doesn't really have as much oomph.
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Right.
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Whereas,
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this is nuts.
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Right. Uh, it is... you're, you're so right.
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If he had just said it, you'd be like, "Oh yeah, this guy's delusional." But after listening to
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why he said it in this case, you're like, "This guy's fucking delusional."
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Mm-hmm.
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What is happening?
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Yeah.
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Even his description of the globalists remains like
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two weeks ago you're like, "Ah, the globalists are dead forever. They've quit. Their proboscis
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are removed." Then the day after that, the globalists are back on.
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Oh, shit.
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You're the one who's making up the globalists' plans-
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Mm-hmm.
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... and now you're saying that the planning is what they're great at?
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Well, it becomes-
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Oh my God.
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It becomes that whole game of like he's always been right about everything-
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Sure.
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... because the things that didn't happen, he stopped.
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Right.
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So, like,
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I, I... it's i- impossible to... for him to ever have to reckon with
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how wrong and how dumb he is about everything-
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No.
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... because he has a built in, "No, I'm a good smart boy" system.
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It is, it is like... that is kind of indicative of the, the world though, of just like that, that
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fear... "We should have long-term plans." Agreed.
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Mm-hmm.
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You're the reason we don't.
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Hmm.
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That is you who is keeping us from having long-term plans, not me.
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I am not standing in the way of long-term plans happening.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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I think one of the things that really
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I, I, um, I've been thinking about with Alex is that like...There's no continuity-
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Right.
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... with reality. Like, reality doesn't have continuity.
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Yeah.
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And because of that, um,
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nothing has continuity into the future either.
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Yep.
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Uh, it's very, uh, un- untethered.
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Yep.
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It's kinda scary.
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Yep.
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So, um, Alex knows that the globalists are gonna frame his side with violence.
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Sure.
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Because a bunch of his friends are probably talking about how they're-
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They're very violent people.
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... ready to be violent.
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Yeah.
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And so, are we just gonna sit here
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and be reactive when they pull all this? They're already
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stealing it, with the Google manipulation, with the election meddling, with the
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censorship. That's where the real steal goes on.
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Then with all the phantom voters and dead
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people and illegals that they're ordering to stay on the ballot. The, the, the out of control feds.
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And extending it out for weeks and weeks and weeks after the election.
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And then telling you the script,
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that Trump supporters aren't gonna accept this
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and they're gonna get violent, so they will provide the violence to frame us.
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It is not a prediction, it is a fact. It's like if you're standing by a river
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and there's a town a mile away and the river's flowing at six miles an hour,
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you can calculate what time that water is gonna arrive in the town.
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It's not a prediction that that water is gonna flow downstream to the town.
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It's a fact.
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So, they fired the bullet out of the gun, it's coming towards us, of civil unrest.
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They're gonna call it a civil war, they're gonna make it race-based. And to provide the impetus
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they will need horrible events, killing,
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Hispanics, Blacks,
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all the groups the Democrats say they wanna protect
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from Trump.
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That's it.
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Like if you watch mom get out pancake mix-
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Oh God, here we go.
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... and milk and an egg, and you've seen her do it 200 times.
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You've helped her do it. And you're watching her whip it up and she gets
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the griddle out and puts hot butter on it and s-
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and you go, "Mom, what are you gonna make?" She goes, "I'm gonna make pancakes, sweetheart. You know that."
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Well,
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we're in the process now where we watch them get the mix, get the egg, get the
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milk, stir it up, the griddle's on, and they're already pouring pancakes.
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But they're not pouring pancakes, they're pouring tyranny.
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Oh no, they're pouring tyranny.
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(laughs)
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So, as has happened a bunch of times in his career, Alex is currently
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really worried about the possibility that the extremists and
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bigots on his side are about to resort to violence. It's kind of hard to imagine that there aren't
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a lot of groups on the far right that feel like they have no possible outlet available to them if Trump
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loses, so it's very understandable where Alex's concern could be
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coming from. Large-scale acts of domestic terrorism are generally
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unpopular with the voting public, and sometimes atrocities committed against our fellow civilians
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can have the effect of shaking people out of their complacency
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and making them realize how bad things have gotten.
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Alex came of age in a militia extreme right-wing community
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that had been decimated by the public waking up to the threat that they posed
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after the OKC bombing, so he's acutely aware of how bad that thing can be for business.
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So, he doesn't want that, but he actually kind of does.
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Or at least he wants his enemies to remember that
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if his side doesn't get their way, that domestic terrorism is right around the corner.
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That implicit threat to blow up a federal building, politically, is one of the only
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reasons his side is taken seriously at all. You see the shit,
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uh, that's going on at these Trump rallies and the insane stuff
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that he says on a regular basis, and then see the way that the media covers him, and it's not hard to remember
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how a Trump supporter sent a bomb to CNN headquarters in
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2018, around the time that all the folks in
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Alex's media sphere were trying to make money selling CNN is ISIS shirts.
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Sure.
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Like, you know, this implied threat i- i- is always important to keep in the background-
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Sure.
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... for folks like Alex.
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Sure.
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We've talked about this dynamic a lot, where Alex knows that the possibility
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for violence among his community members is high, so he stresses how likely a false
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flag, uh, that will be blamed on, uh, them is right now.
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It's a tired rhetorical strategy that's just a preemptive attempt at damage control for any violence that
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may happen. But I wanna touch on the analogies that he uses to explain, uh, how he can
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tell that false-flag racist violence is coming.
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Sure.
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He uses a river flowing and his mom making pancakes
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as two comparable situations, and I think they both don't make his point, but
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might sound good enough if you're not paying attention.
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The issue is that what Alex is doing is being very loose about
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cause-effect relationships in order to make the fraudulent point that he's trying to push.
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In the river example, if you add water to the river upstream,
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you can make a fairly educated guess, based on the laws of physics, how long it'll take
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to reach a certain point downstream.
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That's fair enough, but it's very difficult to take a cup of water from that point downstream
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and make the same claim that someone must have added this water to the river at a certain point upstream.
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You can calculate how long it would take if someone had done that based on physics, but that's about it.
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You're trying to play a game backwards.
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Sure.
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The pancakes example is even worse.
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If you see someone gathering the ingredients for pancakes, you can assume they're making
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pancakes, but they might also be making with, something with
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similar ingredients, like waffles or muffins.
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The gathering of the ingredients is the cause and the presentation of pancakes is the effect.
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So, if you see the gathering of the ingredients, you can assume that pancakes will be presented. It's
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already clear how this doesn't always hold, but if you invert things, you can kind of see what Alex is doing.
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He wants you to see the effect, the presentation of pancakes, and assume that he was right about his claims
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that the globalists have been gathering the ingredients
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and i- this is the cause for the presentation of these pancakes.
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But in reality, tons of people in Alex's community have been talking about pancakes lately.
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They really want pancakes and think that Trump is their last opportunity to
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legally obtain these pancake ingredients.
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So, if he loses, they might just have to make these pancakes themselves.
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Alex knows that pancakes, or in this case, active domestic terrorism, likely racial in, in nature,
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are, it's more likely than normal circumstances.
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He knows that a pancake is gonna show up eventually and he's gonna have to explain it, since his show is
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mostly about yelling about how great pancakes are
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and how sometimes the waffle of liberty has to be watered with the syrup of tyrants.
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Sure.
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Uh, he's, he's, uh...
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That water's tyranny, buddy. They're pouring tyranny.
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Yeah.
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That's not, that's not pancake batter.
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Nope. He's taking an effect and branding it with a plausible
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cause his audience can run with to feel less guilt about
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being part of a world that's based on making pancakes. And the business model involves
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the creation of pancakes.
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Yeah.
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Um,
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I don't know, I feel like I might have gone a little off track with the metaphor, but-
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No, no, no, no. You got, you got there.
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Mm-hmm.
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You hit it. I just, I just love a good metaphor that ends with you, like, being very clear
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that the whole metaphor part was a waste of everybody's time
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whenever you just explain, like, "The pancake batter's tyranny."
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Mm-hmm.
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That's great. You could have cut out the whole long meandering part-
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Mom.
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... where your mom was talking.
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Mom's making pancakes.
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Nope, didn't need it.
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But it ain't your mom.
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Didn't need it.
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It's the globalists-
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Tyranny.
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And now the pancake, it's tyranny.
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Done. Didn't... Done. You ex- you explained it, thereby negating the entire point of the metaphor.
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Okay. Yeah.
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So, he sees the ingredients being laid out.
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Sure.
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Right? So, he knows that they're gonna make pancakes.
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The ingredients are tyranny, though.
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It's, it's a tyranny pancake, buddy.
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Yes. Okay.
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You're just gonna have to deal with that.
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Just to be clear. I just wanna be sure about where we are.
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Mm-hmm.
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Okay.
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It is, uh, gluten-free tyranny.
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Well, that's nice.
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Um-
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I mean, at least there's some positives.
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So, you, you would kind of wanna assess, like, all right, you're the greatest futurist ever, um,
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and i- let's hear some of this predictive ability.
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Yeah.
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... we have to talk about the fact that the steal is on,
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and they don't think that's gonna work so they're just gonna hold up the election
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and gin up civil unrest and say it's Trump's fault, which they've already
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said is gonna happen, and we better start war gaming what we're gonna do in 10 days when this goes down. Or,
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that's their whole movement, that's their preparation,
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that's what they're angling for, that's the main attack.
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Or they're going to steal Texas because Texas
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isn't watching closely enough, and flip the whole country that way.
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Usually works for Texas.
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I feel a disturbance in the force on that one.
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I think that
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it's, it's, it's those two scenarios.
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Or things just get out of hand and somebody makes a wrong move-
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Or another scenario.
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... or it looks like a missile launch but it's not, and Russia starts nuking, or NATO starts nuking,
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or North Korea starts nuking, or China starts nuking, or there's an incident in the South China Sea,
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or China goes into Taiwan.
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I mean, it's all on the table,
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and I just try to wanna, uh, I just wanna get the public
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to talk about the big issues going down.
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This was a masterclass by history and humanity's number one futurist.
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The way he can so effortlessly rattle off mutually exclusive
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scary possibilities for things that can happen and, and
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totally not come off like someone making it up as he goes along, that's a true talent.
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So here are the possibilities.
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Sure.
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One, the Steal 2024 is not going well so they delay the results of the election being announced
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so they can do some false flags to blame Trump supporters and then start a civil war.
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Done.
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Two, Stop the Steal, uh, t- or the, it's just the steal.
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It's just the steal.
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The Steal 2024 does work-
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Yep.
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... but specifically in Texas-
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Right.
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... which the Dems then flip to win the election outright.
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Happened.
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Three, things get out of hand and, quote, "Someone makes a wrong move."
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There you go.
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That's a possibility.
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Could be anything.
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Four, there's a missile false alarm and Russia starts nuking people.
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Why not?
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Five, there's a missile false alarm and NATO starts nuking people.
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Why not?
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Six, North Korea starts nuking people.
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Why not?
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Seven, China starts nuking people.
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That one's crazy.
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Eight, there's an incident in the South China Sea.
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Now that one's obvious.
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Nine, China invades Taiwan.
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Sure.
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This is truly the mark of a man who is not just talking shit.
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Nine possible things that could happen through what a future is.
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Here are the things that could happen.
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Mm-hmm.
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Damn near anything, except for good things. Good things can not happen, so you should be afraid.
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Until tomorrow when the proboscis makes a move.
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Oh, then good things can happen. You should be happy and you should buy things for me.
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All this being said, I do think that things
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getting out of hand and someone making a wrong move is an evergreen prediction.
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That is-
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That's something you could (laughs) throw in all the time and it's probably gonna happen.
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I would not be happy if my fortune teller came up with that as the possible future.
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Mm-hmm.
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I would say, "Mm-mm. Not a very good fortune."
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Nope. The
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number one futurist.
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Could be.
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So, uh, Marjorie Taylor Greene's coming back on the show.
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Great.
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Making a lot of time, uh, for this dumb show.
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Weird.
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Um, and, uh, I just, I found
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this, uh, clip funny.
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All right. MTG's scheduled to be on.
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She's on the road. She's gonna pull over somewhere and try to Skype in or FaceTime in or Zoom in.
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If there's any problems we'll talk to her over the
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phone. I just wanna talk to her. I don't care if she's on video or not.
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I wanna get her take on all this insanity, be a news-making interview. It'll move the needle.
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It's the enemy. So that's coming up. We got a special guest
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here I had set up months ago, very interesting. She'll tell you about him when he gets here.
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I'm so angry I've, uh, popped a blood vessel in my eye screaming on air.
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Give me a close shot. I wanna make this a big part of the show. Look at that. That's how angry I am.
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This is, this is some strange energy.
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Weird.
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"I wanna make a big part of the show the fact that I popped a blood vessel in my eye."
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I don't, I don't want any part of that.
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And then just rambling about, "Oh, this is gonna be a news-making interview with-"
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I don't want any part of this.
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"... Marjorie Taylor Greene." (laughs)
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I don't want any part of what's going on there.
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Feels backstage.
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If that is something you would like to do and be part of, I am not going to stop you-
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Mm-hmm.
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... obviously, but I don't wanna be any part of it.
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Strange, it's strange on air.
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Yeah.
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Look at this fucking blood vessel in my eye.
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Yeah! Yeah!
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Look at it.
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Hey, zoom in on this fucked up eye I got going on here.
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I wanna make it a big part of the show. (laughs)
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Goddamn Duchamp.
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So, uh, Marjorie Taylor Greene is on.
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Uh-huh.
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And she thinks that Texas is in play.
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Sure.
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And I mostly say that because it's exciting to hear that things are in play.
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It's always nice to hear things are in play.
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You know, Kamala Harris is going to Texas. I think she's coming to Austin, uh, and having Beyonce
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perform at her big rally. You know, there's no reason for Kamala Harris to waste time, money, and resources
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coming to Texas unless they think Texas is in play
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somehow. Um, but, but you and I both know, and you know better than me because you're from
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Texas, Texas should not be a state that's in play for the Democrats. It should not be even close, um,
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in the election for the Democrats because Texas is a red state but it's been turning blue, um,
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slowly and steadily because of all the non-citizens that can vote. And Ken Paxton, they took away
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Ken Paxton, the, the Attorney General of Texas' ability to prosecute voter fraud.
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Didn't we already do this one?
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So imagine that. When you have attorney... I mean, he's great, Attorney General Ken
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Paxton says he can't prosecute voter fraud
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in the state of Texas. Um, and then you've got
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just... I don't, I don't know. I'm, I'm
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concerned about Texas. It's, I think, 40 or 41 electoral college votes. That totally wipes out the swing
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states. Georgia won't matter. Pennsylvania won't
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matter. North Carolina. None of these states will matter if they are somehow able to take Texas.
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Exactly. While we're watching
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Georgia and Pennsylvania and Arizona and Michigan, they swoop in and steal
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Texas, which the Democrats have been bragging
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they plan on doing, and we know Texas, other than California, has the most illegals.
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So how do you brag about planning to win an election? Isn't that called campaigning? Um, anyway.
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Blugh.
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Let's imagine a scenario where Harris and Walz only went to states that were conceivably
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up for grabs, specifically a scenario where
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she says, "I can't win Texas so I'm not even gonna waste my time, resources, or energy
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going there to campaign." It's pretty easy to imagine that in that scenario
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folks like Marjorie Taylor Greene would use that refusal to go to Texas as
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evidence of how much Harris hates the red states.
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She doesn't care about flyover country, and she won't even
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show up there if she can't get something out of it like electoral votes.
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We're currently living in a situation where Harris
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is doing what people like MTG pretend to want politicians to do, which is to not
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ignore parts of the country that they're unlikely to win.
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They brag about Trump doing this all the time, like he's not gonna win
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New York, but they love to talk about how he's doing a rally there anyway.
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Because Harris is doing something that they
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should be praising, which is campaigning in Texas, the narrative has to switch a little bit.
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She's not going to Texas because she's campaigning to be the president of all the states.
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She's going there because there's a secret
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plan to steal Texas while everyone's off looking at the battleground states.
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This is a good illustration of how folks in
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Alex-adjacent media, and apparently
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government, will criticize you for doing something or for not doing it.
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Their complaint has no connection to reality
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and they're just making these complaints because they're politically useful.
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Mm-hmm.
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It's meaningless.
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Yeah.
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Yep. To make any decision based upon anything they think would be a fucking idiot's move.
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It would be a little bit silly.
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Yep.
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So Marjorie Taylor Greene, uh, is, like,
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she was on and y- you even responded to this. Like, we did the Paxton thing last time.
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Yeah, yeah, yeah. We can't do this again.
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Right. And we're re-litigating that appearance a bit.
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What?
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All you did last Friday was report what a
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constituent was saying to you, and they had all these headlines about will MTG and Alex Jones get sued
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for saying this company's engaged in this.
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They make a claim that we made a claim that we didn't make. They make the claim
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and then blame us for the claim they're making.
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... didn't blame a voting machine company.
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I just said what was happening. I s- I'm a representative of the people. My job
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i- title literally is representative, so
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I am representing the people in my district. I said what my people were saying.
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I just was saying, "Here's what people are saying, and here's how we, here's how you overcome it."
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This is garbage. Like, on Alex's show, Marjorie Taylor Greene said that Dominion
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Voting Machines were switching votes from Republican to Democrat, and the basis for that claim was that a
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friend of hers saw it alleged in a social media post.
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If this is all it takes for a sitting member of Congress to defend themselves for making irresponsible and
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bullshit claims, then there's nothing that anyone can't get away with.
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"I repeated some bullshit my friends said they saw online," is now,
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"I'm speaking up for the people that I represent."
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Yep.
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It's almost as if Marjorie Taylor Greene doesn't feel like she has any
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responsibility herself, but is merely a conduit by which social media
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bullshit gets amplified. And I think there's some truth to that
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being part of her mentality, which is terrifying
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and, um,
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I don't know.
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Not good.
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Uh. It's all social media at this point.
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(laughs)
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All of it is just who's tweeting about fucking, what? I don't even know.
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But that's talking up for the people.
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Ugh. Ugh.
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Um, if the, I mean, if she wants to hold that standard, she needs to be saying a lot of
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really way worse stuff, probably. 'Cause there's a lot of people
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tweeting some really terrible stuff in her district, I'm sure.
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I mean, I bet she could do it.
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Mm-hmm.
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I think, I think really, now my my feel on these people would be just like,
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"Fucking
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let's go."
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Mm-hmm.
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You know?
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You can get away with anything, so let's find out what anything means.
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Mm-hmm.
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Like I would be acting fucking crazy. 'Cause she thinks this is crazy, and this isn't, this isn't that crazy.
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She's-
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There's crazier shit you could be doing.
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I think she was in on the weather weapons stuff with the hurricanes.
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Ah, lazy.
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It's light crazy.
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Lazy is what it is.
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Sure.
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You gotta go fucking hard these days.
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Call in Eddie Bravo. He'll tell you some things.
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Why not?
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He'll give you some leads.
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Why not?
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Yeah.
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What, who's gonna stop you?
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So-
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She's like, "Oh, Ken Paxton's great." There's, you can do whatever you want, so do whatever you want.
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Well, there is still like a slight concern about getting
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sued, and that's why they're being a bit defensive, because they did-
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That would be absurd. (laughs)
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'Cause they did name Dominion on air.
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Yeah.
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And that's what-what they were talking about.
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Sure.
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And so I think there is a slight, uh, sense of like, "Uh-oh."
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Mm-hmm.
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And,
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uh, MTG is a bit, uh, I think she's trying to dance around a little.
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A-Alex, when, when I get off, I'm go- I'm going to send you
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a video compilation of Democrats attacking voting machines,
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talking about how votes can be stolen, votes can be flipped, and talking about all the problems
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with, with voting machines. And this is all the stuff they used to say before 2020. And, um,
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uh, you can play that on your show, break it up however you want, share it on your social media.
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But the reality is, it's not just me that's been saying that. It's not just
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you, and it's not a whole bunch of voters across the country. It's Democrats as well, and we should not be
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sued for simply calling this out. It- it's just like this, Alex, just like me saying,
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"You know, I don't like this brand of coffee. I personally would like to choose another brand of coffee."
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So for me, I'm gonna say, "I don't like voting on voting machines. I would like to vote on paper ballots."
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I shouldn't be sued for that. No one should be sued for that. You shouldn't be sued for that.
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The American people shouldn't be sued for that.
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Because again, I'll go back to this, the American people own the elections.
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No one cares about you having a, or voicing a
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coffee preference in the same way that no one cares if you
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have or voice a preference about voting
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methods. You're free to have whatever preferences about this shit that you
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want. These two examples are a little different though, in that the
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coffee example is purely a matter of subjective preference, whereas the
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voting one kind of has implications. "I like coffee
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X over coffee Y" doesn't necessarily mean that there's anything wrong with coffee
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Y. But in the case of voting, this preference always
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seems to contain the implication that you prefer your voting method
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because the alternative is easier to cheat.
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But that's still like, if you're a private person
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just living their lives, it probably doesn't matter that much, even if there is that
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slight implication in there. Voting with machines like those made by Dominion has not been
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shown that they're super easy to cheat. But
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if you have preferences that aren't wholly based on truth, who cares? Everybody does.
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When you're a sitting member of Congress, you have a slightly higher responsibility to the public than to
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just engage with matters of public policy this
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casually. Then when you say something that's probably defamatory based on what your friend sa- uh,
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said they saw on Twitter, it's kind of embarrassing to pretend that you think that all
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you did was state a preference, like how someone might prefer coffee X to coffee Y.
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In reality, what you did was closer to appearing on a broadcast that Alex
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claims is watched by tens of millions of people,
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and you claimed that coffee Y was poisoning people
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based on something that your friend said that they saw on social media.
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This is all just super irresponsible on her
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part, and when she tries to explain why what she did is totally cool, it only reveals that she's
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either incapable or unwilling to even understand what being responsible
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in her position would mean. Like, what it would look like to have a public responsibility
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is such, it's a foreign concept, uh, to
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the way that she's approaching this.
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Yeah, you know, I think what would be interesting about that and what is
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probably the res- the reason behind it, right,
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is because she makes a very disingenuous point that is very
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genuine, which is that she is a representative of people, right?
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Mm-hmm.
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That's
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what she is. But the people themselves are never held responsible for her representation.
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Hmm.
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She is supposed to be the representative of the people, and the people themselves don't seem to care
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what she's representing, so that's on them.
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Well, and she's remarkably selective of what she's representing.
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I mean, if you-
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It seems like she's representing what she, like, would have wanted anyway.
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Yeah. So I mean, if the people that she's representing don't like that-
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I would, I would-
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... then it's on them. It's their fault.
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I would fucking love it if she was like, "Look,
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I know the vote wasn't stolen. I'm not a fucking idiot."
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Sure.
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"But guess what? My voters think it was, so I begrudgingly must support this position."
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I'm down.
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"I am the representative."
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I'm in.
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"I don't believe that these voting machines are swipping, uh, swapping anything. I think it's bullshit."
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That's fair. That's fair.
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(laughs) That would be awesome.
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That is fair. I mean, it does, it does make sense to me, just on a, on the, on the sense of like, okay,
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if that's what you guys want.
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Hmm.
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But you have to be held accountable for that, and it seems like it does, it has to go both ways. Like
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she's never held accountable for her actions because the people
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that she's accountable to don't hold her accountable.
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Yeah. The, there's, there's some of that, and some of that
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probably is based on, you know, districts and, you know, party-
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I mean-
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... party indexes and all that shit.
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Sure. Whatever one's, whatever people want.
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But also, also another thing that is the problem is like that the, like this
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kind of a, an excuse and dodge is okay.
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Sure.
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Like, it's just fine. I'm just stating a preference, like coffee.
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What?
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I mean, I- I th-
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It's just, it, it's
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conceptually unacceptable.
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Yeah, absolutely.
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So he has Marjorie Taylor Greene on, and a lot of it is kind of this defensiveness over the other interview.
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Sure.
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But he said these-
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(laughs) Which is a news-making interview.
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Totally.
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Defensive about another interview.
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I think it moved the needle.
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Whoa, that, we gotta write headlines. MTG, mad that we wrote about her previous interview.
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Right.
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So, uh, but he had another guest he was gonna have on.
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Uh-huh.
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And I was excited because he said like, "I'm gonna have this big guest."
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Yeah.
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"I've been planning it for a while."
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Yeah.
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"You're never gonna believe who he got."
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Uh...
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Do you wanna guess?
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I feel like I'd be pushing my luck if I said Kevin Sorbo again. (laughs)
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(laughs) You would. You would. And this was a trap. There's no way you could've guessed this.
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Okay.
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I mean, we are living in an incredibly
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dynamic...
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... wonderful, horrible time.
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I mean, everything's going on, the good, the bad and the ugly.
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All right. I, I had this guest set up weeks ago. He's really smart. Known him a
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while. And I'm, I'm not trying to make it a Joe Rogan-centric program, he's also Joe Rogan's, uh,
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one of his most popular guests and also his medical advisor.
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Uh, he owns a big medical company. He himself is not a physician, but a bunch of them work for him.
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Yeah. So you never wanna be in a position where you're Alex Jones saying, "I don't want this to become a
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Joe Rogan-centric program," as you introduce Rogan's medical advisor as your guest.
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Yeah.
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Saying that out loud kind of makes it too clear that you know you're a Rogan-centric program and you're
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really self-conscious about it and how you're kind of ashamed that you don't have an identity for yourself.
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That whole protests too much thing needs to be taught more in schools.
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Oh, yes.
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Yeah.
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So this guest is a guy named, uh, Brigham Bullar, who runs a company called ReVive
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Rx, which is like a mail order pill outlet.
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Sure.
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He started that and then another company called Wayz 2 Well, the number two.
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Okay.
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Uh, which exists in this part of the market that basically
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s- uh, it starts with a good premise, which is like, Big Pharma has a lot of problems.
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Sure.
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And then it comes up with a bad solution, which is basically like let's do it worse and make a cut.
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Yeah.
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COVID really opened up this market for people
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as they clamored to get prescriptions for hydroxychloroquine and ivermectin, and then as
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many pharmacies started to have shortages,
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things like Ozempic and Adderall, these types of companies can really
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shine, and there's a place... You make quite a bit of money, uh, in that.
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Yeah. Yeah. The thing about that is like,
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the whole system's fucked about that.
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Mm-hmm.
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You know? 'Cause like if I'm a Big Pharma company
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and somebody is doing that in an effective way, ah-ha, I've purchased you, and now you can
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not succeed in your goal of fighting against us.
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But if somebody's scamming people, you go,
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keep on scamming people, because then when people are like, "Oh,
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they're scammers," they go right back to Big Pharma.
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Hm.
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It's a circle that keeps us all fucked in the face.
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Um,
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yeah. I don't know. I just... I, I find it all shady.
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It's all shady as shit.
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Um, I fi- I think doctors less so...
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Mm.
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... than
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mail order pill places.
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(laughs) Marginally.
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Just historically.
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(laughs)
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But it's close.
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I was gonna say, historically is the wrong answer.
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One of the-
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Within the previous 30 years-
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One of the-
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... is more likely than the previous several 100 before that.
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One of them has a deeper-
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(laughs)
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... history of, that you can pull from to judge.
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(laughs)
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I'll give you that.
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So ReVive Rx recently had to do a recall because they sent vials of
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testosterone to patients who were ordering weight loss drugs.
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Great.
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According to the New York Post, this was a class one recall, quote,
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"Meaning that there is a reasonable probability that the
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use of or exposure to a vi- uh, violative product will cause serious adverse health consequences or death."
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Great.
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This has been, uh, not their only recall, and
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in June 2023 they got a letter from the FDA compliance director for pharmaceuticals
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alerting them of, quote, "unsanitary conditions" at their facility. But he's cool and he's on
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Rogan, so Alex is desperate to associate himself with this guy however he can. Um, it's sad. This is a
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Joe Rogan-centric program.
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Yeah. Yeah. Isn't that wei- You know, it's like... It's a,
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it's a side effect, right, 'cause you don't get into the shady pill game
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if you're not already on the shadier side. And if you're on the shadier side,
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you're a cutting corners kind of cat.
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Mm-hmm.
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That's what you do, you know? But
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what would it be like if they were just like really
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rigorous, like, "Hey, listen, we're a shady pill place, but you get what you ordered..."
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Mm-hmm.
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"... despite the fact that what you ordered is functionally nothing."
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We're, uh, but also, what if they were like, "You're gonna have to
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really see a bunch of doctors before we sign off on this"?
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Ugh. Ahh.
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"We're gonna have to, like, triplicate this thing."
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See, that's, that's where you get into the-
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"We're shady-"
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... that's where you're done. (laughs) We're-
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I don't know. Shady and dotting your, uh, Is and Ts and stuff, it just doesn't seem-
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Doesn't seem to go together.
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No. So, uh, we got Rogan's doctor guy coming on-
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Sure.
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... here, and so Alex gives him a nice little introduction.
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And boy, we always ask guests to send us any clips or documents. He sent us a ton...
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(laughs)
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... of amazing stuff here, and over the next two hours we're gonna go over, uh, a lot of this and, and, and
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play these clips. It's perfect timing with Bill Gates getting
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indicted, uh, in the Netherlands, uh,
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for all the harm, uh, that he pushed with the poisoned
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shots that he's a big benefactor of, and him trying to be our medical doctor.
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I mean, there's a huge awakening...
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So this is the sort of thing that Alex does pretty regularly, which is kind of testing the waters with a guest
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by making some kind of a claim that they should push back on.
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Sure.
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And if they don't, you know you got them.
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Right. Right, right, right.
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They're playing ball if they're going along with this.
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Right, right. The fascist, uh, is that a cow?
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Mm-hmm.
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Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
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The claim that Bill Gates was indicted in the Netherlands, it was going around like dumb shit social
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media circles, but it's not true. Alex's show is just him skimming Twitter and riffing
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about it as if he's some kind of a scholar, so
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that's what he's doing here. An indictment is what a state power does when they arrest you for a
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crime, so to say that Bill Gates had been indicted in the Netherlands
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is to say that the state charged him with a crime. In the real world, what happened is that
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seven people in the Netherlands filed a civil suit against Gates and a group of other people
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who they claim misled them about COVID vaccines.
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Gates' lawyer wanted to have this case thrown out of court because he doesn't live in the
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Netherlands, so the court, uh, they, they shouldn't have, uh, any jurisdiction to hear this case.
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Sure.
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That was the point, the argument he was trying to make.
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Sure.
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The court ruled that they do have jurisdiction
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because if you're a criminal conspirator
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who commits a crime against the people of the Netherlands, then the
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Dutch courts have the right to hear that case.
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Sure.
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It's Dutch people who are aggrieved, so it's Dutch
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courts who can hear the case. This is the decision that Alex is reporting as Gates being indicted, which
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isn't a mistake that you could accidentally make.
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True.
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It's either an act of intentional lying or it's a sign that he
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didn't look into the story at all before reporting it. And he... There's another
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problem here too, which is, I'm not sure if Alex should think that the Dutch court
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does have jurisdiction in this case.
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Given his insane ideas about sovereignty, I'm not sure who he thinks
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should hear this kind of case, given that Bill Gates is a US citizen.
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Yeah.
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But I, I know that, uh, it's, it's really clear that he doesn't think that Brazil has the jurisdiction to
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hold Elon Musk responsible for a crime.
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Right. Right, right, right. He definitely doesn't think
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Chevron should be held accountable for any of their crimes.
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No, so I don't understand-
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Yeah.
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... why Bill Gates should be held responsible by a Dutch court according to Alex.
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I mean, even that... Like, listen, we can do the race thing, sure.
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But i- i- if it was Elon Musk, he wouldn't care. He wouldn't be like, "Oh, the Dutch have a right to Elon Musk."
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Mm-hmm.
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This is purely political.
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Mm-hmm.
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So this is finally a, a, an issue free of race problem for us and Alex today.
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It is, it is
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maybe the one. But it's also-
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Just one.
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... it's also one where it's like, I take issue with
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your telling of this fake story, but also, I think I take issue
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with your position, according to you, about the real story.
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Yeah. Yeah.
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He's wrong like in four different ways.
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Yeah.
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(laughs) It's a lot.
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He's got that Tesseract ability about him.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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And so the doctor guy just was like, "Yeah, cool." And so he failed the test-
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Sure.
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... of, uh, Alex just saying some dumb shit about him.
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Right.
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But I think on some level,
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he has some-
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You mean he passed the test?
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For Alex, yes.
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Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.
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Failed it for me.
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Failed it for the real world-
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Yeah.
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... and the rest of us in, you know, decency.
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And, and that being said, I think he has some fair points.
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I, I think his c- some of the conclusions are bad, but he has some fine points.
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I've talked to you a lot. I mean, whatever the subject, we're basically... I totally agree with you, but you
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say it in ways even better than I do, plus you've been a witness to it.
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Yeah.
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A- a- and, and, and, and it's really important to expose that.
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Yeah. So one of the examples I can give is so often... So let's just get into
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why we believe in proactive predictive medicine. Everyone can agree that if we could prevent cancer,
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why would we...... why would we wanna focus on treatments for cancer,
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right? If we can prevent diabetes, we don't have to write drugs to treat diabetes. Uh,
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and these, these things are possible, but it requires getting proactive and predictive and the
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system's not built to do that. Um, on average a patient gets six minutes with a provider in this country.
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Um, that's for that doctor to be able to troubleshoot, family history, go over
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all the ailments that are bothering you, all the prescription medications you're on, which now
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the average American's on four or more prescription drugs. Uh, it's virtually impossible
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to be able to cover that much ground in six minutes. I mean, it is impossible.
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Uh, then i- if you look and you look through the layers of this, um-
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So, um, I think this guy makes some decent
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points, but he's unfortunately talking to a guy who doesn't want to make anything better.
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For instance, cancer prevention is great. The number one way to prevent cancer is to not smoke.
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Alex smokes cigarettes in his studio, and it's hard to imagine him supporting
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anti-smoking initiatives that the government has taken in the past,
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and honestly, that pause where he thinks Alex is gonna take over-
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Yep.
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... there's a chance that Alex is smoking a cigarette and that's why he doesn't respond.
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Very possible.
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Or even more directly, Alex absolutely hates the HPV vaccine.
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He attacks it constantly, but it's, uh,
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effective at protecting you from HPV which can cause cervical, anal, penile, vulva, or vaginal cancers.
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Getting the HPV vaccine is a part of responsible cancer prevention, but
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Alex doesn't support that and actually demonizes the shit out of it.
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Diabetes prevention is great, but the reality is that some
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people are going to get diabetes, and some people are gonna get cancer.
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Focusing on prevention is good, but if you're doing it to the exclusion of
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paying any attention to treatments, you're doing more
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harm than you think that you're doing. You're, you're, p- missing the point.
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Encouraging people to have a good diet, to exercise, to wear sunscreen, to check for lumps, these are all
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good things, but it's a little bit trite.
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This guy makes another fair point about doctors not having enough time
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with their patients, but again, what's the point? If Alex's political
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ideology is to be followed, then if you can't afford it, you shouldn't even
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get six minutes with a doctor. His agenda is not about providing
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better care and more universal access to
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services. Some of the stuff he's saying would make sense in another
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context, like this doctor, if he was talking to somebody else, but he's talking to
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Alex Jones, whose approach to healthcare is
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really just hyping up whatever supplement he accidentally
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ordered too much of this week, like, uh, sea moss.
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Right. With the underlying subtext that any actual consequences are ordained by God-
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Mm-hmm.
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... and therefore prevention in its- of itself is an act of sin.
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Right.
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Yeah.
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And maybe it's a bioweapon, and, and-
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Yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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Maybe...
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"If you, if you get sick, you deserve it," is more of, like, Alex's fundamental philosophy than-
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You deserve it/the globalists did it.
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Yeah, exactly.
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Yeah.
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"You deserve it, the globalists did it to you because
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you didn't fight back hard enough/didn't give me money."
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Yeah. So, I, I don't know. I'm not super interested in this guy, um, but he does seem, he has some complaints
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about, um, like, food. Like Fruit Loops.
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Sure.
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So here he gets into Fruit Loops a little.
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Get 'em.They don't know about big food, and I'm hoping we're bringing that to light.
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Oh, talk about it, yeah.
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Yeah, so in, one, one of the things we talked about in front of the Senate is
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in the United States in the '80s, there were
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700 ingredients approved in our food by the FDA. There are now 10,000
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ingredients approved to be in our food.
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A lot of those ingredients are banned
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in Europe and Canada. So Kelloggs makes one brand o-
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Fruit Loops, for instance, they make one cereal for the American people, and in the same factory, make a
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different concoction for other nations. So
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they have the ability to sell us less harmful, less addictive, less
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processed foods, but they choose not to, and they instead push these highly addictive, highly
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processed foods that have an array of different
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food dyes and chemicals in them that are banned in other countries. Uh-
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And then the same FDA runs around trying to stop people getting vitamins, so, so, so looking at that
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and, and, and-
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(laughs)
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... where that's all going, with Robert F. Kennedy
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exposing it, Rogan exposing it, you exposing it, th- th- th- th- I mean, this is really getting out there.
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Just going back, in the back in the food for
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a moment, you mentioned Roundup, and, and they knew what glyphosate did day
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one and it grows cancers and it hurts fertility and, you know, d- d- does all these things, but
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the US is one of the only countries in the world that allows
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atrazine, that 100% bends genders in all major species, a- and again, th- they
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know, t- they knew when they rolled it out
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that was going on, and then we see what's happening here. I mean, this, this is clearly a depopulation plan.
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It definitely, uh, i- the facts are there, and the data's overwhelming. It-
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So this is a moment where Alex has asserted his dominance
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and this guy just accepted it and signaled that he was along for the ride.
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He's not a doctor or a health advocate. He's a dude promoting his scammy
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shit that happens to be health-adjacent, and that façade slips in
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one second. I want to play this moment, this specific moment for you again.
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This is clearly a depopulation plan.
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It definitely, uh, i- the facts are there.
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Yeah, this is a man pretending to hold onto whatever ability he has to take himself seriously
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being confronted by Alex demanding he agree with something insane as a way to be a part of the in group.
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Also, uh, Fruit Loops were made available in the UK in 2012, and there was a bit of an
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issue about their ingredients, mostly dealing with the colors.
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The artificial colors weren't allowed in the UK, so they only had three
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colors which were achieved by natural extracts.
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The UK doesn't ban these artificial food dyes, but the evil globalist EU requires that products containing
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yellow 6, yellow 5, or red 40 contain a warning that it could have "An adverse effect
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on a children's, uh, activity and ability to concentrate." There wasn't
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a law that requires food to not have these ingredients, but it was a general cultural vibe. Market
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forces have shown that the European customer isn't that interested in their food being crazy
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colored and all that shit, so, like,
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having that warning label on a product is enough to reduce its sale, so a company like Kelloggs
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will make a compliant version of their cereal if they wanna try and sell in that market. So I guess the answer
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is that the government needs to more closely regulate food color additives like they do in the EU.
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Is that the pitch that's being made on InfoWars? Because I don't think Alex supports that.
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I think he thinks the EU's evil.
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"I, I mean, the government should take a closer look at what people are putting inside their bodies"
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cannot be a message that Alex supports-
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Mm-hmm.
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... in any fashion. Just full stop, "Someone should look
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at what people are putting inside of them," is a bad message for Alex.
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It's, it's tough to believe that you would be able to make it from A to B to C without him
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very seriously contradicting himself.
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Yeah. Somewhere along the line, is a, uh, an assault on Alex's bottom line. That's what's important.
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So we start, uh, uh, onto, we start onto, our journey-
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We move onto Sunday.
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... to Sunday. (laughs)
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Sunday. Right.
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The 27th, um, and I think that Alex, this seems really illegal.
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Elon Musk
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funded these ads, and these are some of the very best, most powerful, truthful ads
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out there, and they just dropped yesterday. The first place they dropped
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was at RealAlexJones.
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The, uh, PAC that Musk funded thought, "Hey, Alex, how would you like
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to put these out first?" I, I thought that
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was a nice thing, though, uh, at the end of the day it really doesn't matter to me.
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They've got more coming out, uh, this week.
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So we know, uh, I, I'm not sure about all the laws, uh, governing PAC
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activity, but Alex is saying that Elon Musk's PAC-
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Yeah.
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... directly coordinated with him about these videos.
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Yeah.
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These Trump ads.
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I mean, I, I, listen. There are no laws regarding PACs, so let's all just pretend that
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any law that anybody's ever written about PACs or super PACs is just not real.
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That's fair.
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It's never going to be enforced on anybody, so who cares?
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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So, uh, the, the rally at Madison Square Garden is going on-
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Yeah.
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... on, uh, uh, was that Sunday? I think so.
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Yes.
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I don't know.
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The Nazi rally, yeah.
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So, uh, but it wasn't Nazi.
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No.
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What are you saying?
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I... No, no, no. I mean the, the Nazi reminiscent rally that h- was filled with Nazis.
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Hmm.
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Who were openly Nazi about it.
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Alex doesn't like talk like that.
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Oh.
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And, and, and then they say, "Oh, he's at Madison Square Garden where the Nazis were 84 years ago, in 1939."
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And now.
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He wasn't even born yet.
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He is now.
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Wasn't born for six years.
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So he, he wasn't a twinkle in his father's eye or his mother's eye for six years-
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Who were Nazis.
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... and then now he's a Nazi for
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an arena that's had tens of thousands of events at it?
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From Elvis Presley to
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The Beatles? What the hell does that... From, from Kanye to
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George Strait?
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Oops.
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Ch- d- if you're just pulling out names, Ye is a strange one.
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From Kanye to George Strait.
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(laughs) Ye, the guy who talked about how much he loves Nazis on your show? (laughs)
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Sure. Sure. That is... You know, it... Sometimes, sometimes Freud gets you.
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Yes. (laughs)
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Sometimes Freud does get you. Sure, he was coke-addled and out of his mind, but sometimes he was right.
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I just had to name four non-Nazi musical acts-
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And I went hard on-
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... and I, I whiffed it.
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Ye-...
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Whoops.
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So Alex talks a little bit about fighting the devil.
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Sure.
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Um, and I think he's... He sounds really stupid.
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Oh, yeah?
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I've studied history. Satan operates the same. He has many antichrists. One final one-
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Wait, what? No. Whoa. Whoa. Whoa. Whoa. Whoa. Whoa.
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... to try to bring about the same system all over again. I believe humanity-
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What?
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... I feel it, I see it-
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(laughs)
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... repulses this attack. But God leaves it up to us.
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God made us with free will and knows the outcome, but gives us free will.
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We will repulse this attack.
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There'll be a big awakening, and then the AI and the globalism and the decadence will be so powerful
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that within decades,
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this, this, this, this, this, this renaissance gets defeated,
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and then the big one comes in, and then that's a very short time the antichrist is in control. That's how
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I see it, how I feel it, what my spirit tells me. But God's given us free will. We can repulse that next attack
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and push it off. See, i- i- it's all... It's all a game, isn't it? But for your soul.
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It's a third-dimensional
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molecular simulation.
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Not a false simulation.
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Boo.
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Not a digital thing in a computer. It's a
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total universe, planet, real people, whole nine yards, your ancestors, all of it, in a real war game.
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So it's a real war, but at this level, to God it's a war game. You're not gonna get the big
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stuff til' you, you know, at least pass this level. And by the way, I've, uh,
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been shown a little
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thing or two, and, uh, if you think we're gonna be up in heaven floating around on clouds,
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uh, that's, that... You can see that, and if you want to punch out, you can always go to that.
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You make it past level one. That's, that's level one.
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Boo.
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But nobody, almost nobody wants to punch out un- un- once you get past level one. Then it gets even
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more intense what you face and the systems you're gonna be dealing with. So it just gets cooler and more
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wild, ladies and gentlemen. And, uh, so
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it's, it's really cool. (laughs) God made it, it's beyond cool.
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All right, uh, let me go ahead and shift gears
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back into what I was talking about here. Uh, let's go ahead and play this Kamala is cruel ad.
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Whoa. Uh-
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Oh my god. (laughs)
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Did you get, uh, a little bit of whiplash from, uh... (laughs)
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What are we doing?
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(laughs)
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What are any of us doing?
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He's talking about the specifics of heaven and then goes, "Kamala's mean."
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Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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(laughs)
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I've been to heaven. In case you're wondering, I have seen the afterlife.
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You think you know something based on what everybody else is telling you.
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You see all those people hanging out with harps? That's the break room.
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I have reached beyond the veil.
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(laughs)
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I have pierced it and I have seen through the glass clearly,
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as God himself said I could not. And now here's an ad that was made by Elon Musk.
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(laughs)
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Oh my god.
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I think that, like,
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I... (sighs) We take for granted how insane he is.
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Yeah. Yeah, yeah.
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That's an insane person talking.
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I mean, it's not that different. Honestly, that's really... Honestly, honestly,
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that is most religious people on this planet.
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Mm.
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It is. It is.
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I disagree.
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Say what you, say what you want. At the end of the day, what you believe is that there's a big sky
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guy, blankety-blank, and then you go, like, "Oh, and also it matters." Like, come on.
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I, I disagree.
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Get out of it.
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I think that there is a big difference between saying, "I have faith in something
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that brings a lot of shit to my life-"
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Sure.
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"... gives me a sense of meaning, maybe a community." Uh, there's a difference between that and,
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"I've been to heaven and the harps are just, like, where
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people hang out in between missions." I think that there is a big difference.
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Mm-hmm.
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One is
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fully experiential.
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Sure.
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"I have been to this heaven and shown mystical secrets of the universe-"
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Sure.
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... I think is different than just someone who has a, kind of, decent relationship with-
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Mm.
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I don't know, I'm just saying every-
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... spirituality.
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... every God camp and church I've ever been to has had at least one person say something along the lines of-
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Oh.
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... "I've been to heaven, and everybody there goes-" Yes, you have. You're great. Now let's go to the store.
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I-
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(laughs)
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I'm not gonna sit here and defend God camps-
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There you go.
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... or anything like that.
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There you go.
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So, uh, there's trouble in paradise.
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Uh-huh.
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And when I say paradise, I don't mean the angels in the break room.
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Sure.
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I mean Alex and Nick Fuentes.
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Oh, god.
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Nick is not super into Trump anymore.
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Good.
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And so Alex is having to deal with that.
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Uh-oh.
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Because Nick Fuentes is making videos about how Trump has sold out.
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(laughs)
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Nick Fuentes is a, a smart guy. I, I, I disagree with a lot of what he says, but
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he has a right to free speech, and I agree with a lot of what he says. We should hear from everybody.
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He's saying Trump has sold out,
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and that this isn't like 2016, that, that, that,
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you know, people are refusing to endorse Kamala, the newspapers and
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big millionaires are calling up to capitulate to Trump, uh, because Trump has sold out. Uh, no.
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They see the writing on the wall and globalism being in so much trouble, and so they're trying to now
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survive.
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Now, that doesn't mean there won't be a big
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fight with who Trump puts in, that the
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swamp isn't gonna strike back in a lot of ways. It doesn't mean the war is won. But
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this is what victory looks like, is when Elon Musk sounds just like Alex Jones
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and Tucker Carlson sounds just like A- Alex Jones and Joe Rogan sounds just like Alex Jones.
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So apparently Alex hasn't been paying much attention, because
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Nick hasn't been supporting Trump for a while.
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Back in July, he said, quote, "I don't even really care. I'm not energetic, I'm not enthusiastic.
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I'm not leaving my house to vote. Vote for what? For J.D. Vance and Usha?
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I'm not voting for this. I'm not lending my credibility to this."
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You see, he doesn't like that, uh, J.D. Vance, uh, for a number of reasons, but one of them is that, uh,
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and this is something he brings to the forefront quite a bit-
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Sure.
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... is that he's married to a non-white woman-
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Uh-oh.
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... and has non-white children.
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Uh-oh.
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Previously, Nick had said, quote, "Who
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is this guy, really? Do we expect the, uh, the guy who has an Indian wife and named their
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kid Vivek is gonna support white identity?" (laughs)
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So that's a big problem for Nick. And then in August, he declared a griper
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war against Trump because he was, uh, afraid that the campaign was heading in the wrong direction.
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Previously, they'd done this against Charlie Kirk and created some
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real problems for him at live events, gaining a lot of traction in the process.
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This second war did not go great, and no one really cared what Nick was up to.
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Right.
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And then in September, Nick turned on Trump again
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after Trump made a public admission that he lost the 2020 election.
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Trump later called that a moment of sarcasm, but
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Nick was pretty understandably pissed off that Trump was
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breaking the kayfabe that their whole movement is based on.
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And now I guess Nick has turned on Trump again.
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Sure.
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Nick really hates Israel, so Trump's overwhelming support of the country and Netanyahu were
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always going to be an issue. Beyond that, he's probably
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just becoming aware that his slot in the Trump world vision of power is pretty
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similar to what they offer Alex. "We'll pat you on the head because we like how extreme your messaging gets
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and you give us some cover, but you'll always be at the little kids table when the adults are talking."
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That's an okay arrangement for someone like Alex, but Nick has his sights a little
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higher than that. And I suspect he can tell
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that he has much more to gain by being outside of this thing than inside.
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Yeah.
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'Cause then you can attack from the outside.
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Hey, somebody with a long-term plan. How 'bout that?
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(laughs)
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I mean, I think some of his short-term plans are bad, too.
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Certainly, the Groper war didn't work out how he wanted it to.
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Nope, nope.
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Um, but you... You know, there's not a master plan.
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No.
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It's just, I think you can see the writing on the wall of, like-
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"Let's not think about the next two days."
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Mm-hmm.
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"And instead, let me think about how I'm fucking 12 years old or whatever, and I've got a long time to go."
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Yeah.
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"So I should plan accordingly."
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"In a couple of years, it's gonna be really a problem for me to try and unwrite-"
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Yeah.
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"...like, sycophantic support of Elon Musk."
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Yeah.
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"That's gonna be really tough in the future, so let's just not, like, tie this weight around my neck."
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Yeah, yeah. If you're not... If you're
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him and you're looking at the people around you and you're not going like,
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"Well, in a couple of years, either they've won and I'm useless-"
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Mm-hmm.
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"...or this whole thing falls apart and I have my chance."
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Yeah.
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Those are your only two real options if you're him.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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And if they win and I'm useless, like,
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there's still a possibility for them to win and me be more extreme than them-
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Yeah.
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...and have some sort of purchase.
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Yep.
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Um, but yeah.
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Going along is not the way to do it.
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No.
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No.
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So, uh, hey, you remember, uh, earlier,
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Alex, uh, talked to Rogan's doctor friend?
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I do remember.
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This, this is not a Rogan-centric p-
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Oh, no. Do we have another Rogan-er?
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No. This is not a Rogan-centric po-
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I feel like maybe he's been protesting too much.
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No.
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In fact, I got an Eddie Bravo clip from dinner last night-
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Oh, God.
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... he was here for Joe's show. Went out to dinner, called me,
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and at the end of dinner, I said, "You gotta say this on camera." And,
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and, and, uh, he's like, "No, no, no, no." And he was saying something
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everybody already knows, but he was talking about Joe behind the scenes.
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And how
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Joe knew all this stuff decades ago, as I've told you,
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but was trying to, like, play it safe.
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And when they came after him publicly and behind the scenes the last few years,
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he's like fire-breathing now behind the scenes. Totally awake, totally pissed, and
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doing it his way, unpacking 'em on air.
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"Oh, I'm nonpartisan," while he just devastates them.
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Who cares? Like, Alex has... Uh, w- he's trying to play a video of something he
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coaxed Eddie Bravo into saying after
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dinner the night before about... gossip about Rogan and how he means what he says.
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Wow.
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And how he's cool.
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Wow.
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This is sad.
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That is
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crazy.
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This guy's been to Heaven.
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Are... Why are you doing this?
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(laughs)
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Have a meeting before the show about what's gonna be in the show.
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Mm-hmm.
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Just do that.
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Well, y- y- you can't, because then you lose moments like this.
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Oh, my God.
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So before the hour ends, here, uh, send, uh...
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Send Chase in here. I'll, I'll, uh...
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find the video here for him.
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(laughs)
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Have him grab this off my phone.
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(laughs) What is happening?
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And, um... Found it here.
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Have him grab this.
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It's, uh, the video last night,
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uh, with, uh,
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Eddie Bravo. There's only one.
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It's, uh... No, it was after he was on Rogan and went to dinner, um...
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Oh, my God.
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Yeah, I'm not gonna... Just get it off the phone. It'll be higher res. I'm trying to find...
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You know, I'll just give it to you during the break.
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Trying to find it here.
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This is a show.
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I didn't shoot video of that.
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You are on the air.
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Oh, that's in the studio. Did I not shoot video of that?
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What is happening?
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I'm losing my mind.
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Yes!
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Oh, yeah, here it is. All right, anywa-... I'll, I'll give it to you. It's just a fun video. So...
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"It's just fun."
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(laughs) I...
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So look, this is why you don't prepare b- before the show, 'cause that's electric.
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(laughs) I was, I was thinking this the... Whenever he was like,
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"You know, there's more than one Antichrist. This is a..." you know, and I was like, I wish
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that I was in the Old West, because I genuinely do want to throw Alex out of a saloon.
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Mm.
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I would like to throw him out the window of a saloon in the classical style.
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Not the swinging doors?
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No, no, no, no, no. The, the classical, like, throw him and, and have him on the bar and
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slide him the whole way. You know what I'm saying?
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Mm-hmm.
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Like, a team of people all the way across, and then he goes
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flying headfirst out the window, and then we throw his hat after him.
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You gotta throw him with the hat.
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That's what I'm looking for. That's what I want, and that just made me feel like I needed it.
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Mm-hmm.
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You know? But unfortunately, time travel has not yet been invented.
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You know that if you're, like, running him along the bar-
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Yup.
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...he's gonna be drinking everything along the way?
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That's t- I mean, there's gotta be some comedy.
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(sipping sounds)
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There's gotta be some comedy too.
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Yeah.
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I mean, what am I...
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So, uh, Alex... I guess Chase is gonna get that video.
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Great.
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Um, and so he ge-... He starts talking more about, uh, Nick Fuentes.
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Okay.
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Uh, being against Trump.
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Great.
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And in doing so, he has to counter a point that Nick is
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making, and I think he does it in the funniest possible way.
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He's gotta put hardcore American patriots in the Justice Department immediately.
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And so those are the big things-
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Nazi rally.
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...we're looking for, Mur. We're not
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putting the cart before the horse starting to cover this. This is important now.
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And Nick's right to be raising it. I disagree with his postulation that it's the sellouts already happened,
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and, you know, things like that.
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And, like, "Oh, well, JD Vance is backed by Peter
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Thiel, and well, you know, there's a bunch of..." Yeah, who was
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ag-... y-... was for Trump the first time,
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and
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was not with the main deep state.
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I mean, you could say, you know, Thiel's involved in the surveillance
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grids, selling good equipment, and you can say he's in all this, but he's certainly not part
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of the main group. Uh, so I just-
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What?
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I mean, Trump's never made a... Or I'm, I'm glad that he's there.
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That's your defense?
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I think he's a great choice.
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(laughs) He's just-
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What?
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He's not one of the main globalists.
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What?
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(laughs) He's on the side.
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Unacceptable.
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(laughs)
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Unfuckingacceptable.
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I think Alex is just like, "Well, at this point, I can't even really make the argument that I wanna make.
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I think it would sound silly. My audience isn't even gonna buy that."
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Nobody cares.
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"That Peter Thiel is not connected to folks and-"
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Yeah.
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"Even I've yelled about him in the past."
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Totally.
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"Ch- he's not one of the big gu-... He's not Schwab."
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What does that mean?
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Who cares?
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"He's not one of the main group."
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He's not, uh, I mean, uh, well...
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Jesus. Do they g-... Do... What... What do they do? Do they do brunch?
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Mm-mm.
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How do you know if you're in the main group? How do you know if you were invited into the main group?
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Mm-hmm.
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Is there a group chat? Eh- how do you know if you've been kicked out of the main group? Do they not
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tell you and invite you to things anymore?
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You're-
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What is the main group?
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It depends on what sort of demon you have.
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Okay.
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If you have a... If you have-
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That actually tracks.
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... a tall demon inside you-
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No.
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...you're part of the main group.
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You're right.
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If you have a short demon inside you-
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I really... Yeah, it's drawing straws. That's what it is. That's the way it is. It's the main group. I get it.
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(laughs)
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I get it. I am the idiot here.
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Yep.
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So, uh, Alex is a bit defensive-
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Uh-huh.
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...about, uh, Nick.
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Sure.
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And I think understandably so.
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And, and so,
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yeah, everybody knows Trump's not anti-Israel. Okay.
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And then, uh, is that a secret?
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Never been. It's not like some new policy.
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And, and then,
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Trump's gotten roughly 10% of his donations from big billionaires.
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The Democrats have gotten 90-plus percent of their money, look it up,
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from the rich.
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Th- there's never in a presidential election, not even in 2016,
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been all the big money on the Democrats the way it is now. I mean, they always have got the big money.
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They used to get, like, 60%, 65% in an election, with George Herbert Walker Bush or George W. or that crap.
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Now, over 90% is going to the Democrats. And so you can't point at Trump and say he's an elitist.
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This is Elon Musk erasure.
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I mean,
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isn't there a guy who's just going out giving a million dollars away all the time?
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Well, that's to defend the First and Second Amendment. That is literally and legally not, uh-
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Fine.
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... about voting at all.
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Fine, whatever.
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He's just thrilled about the First and Second Amendment.
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The point is, he can throw a-
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You were laughing quite a bit. People... I
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muted his mic. Jordan was-
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Yeah, I... No, it was-
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... laughing so much.
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... fucking great.
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(laughs)
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It was top tier
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Tony Hinchcliffe material.
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So good.
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That's the, that's the Kill Tony that I recall from my, uh-
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Mm-hmm.
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... good friend, Ian Ellis, being on the show.
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So, I was really excited when this all happened, because I knew that it meant that we got to talk about it
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and that you were gonna be pretty mad.
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Yep.
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And I was gonna be able to make you mad.
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Yep, yep.
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And I was gonna be mad. 'Cause first of all, I think Tony Hinchcliffe sucks.
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Yep.
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I'm old school on that position. I don't need him bombing at a Trump rally to convince me that he is the worst.
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No, in pure comedy terms, we hated him long before you ever-
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Yeah.
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... heard his fucking name.
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Yeah. (laughs) I think he's not funny, that
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roast comedy is a form of humor that's
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cringe-inducingly bad except in very rare cases, and that if it weren't for Joe Rogan, no one would
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have any idea who Tony is. Further, I think his show, Kill
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Tony, is an exercise in exploitation that's structured around bullying
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that offers people gatekeeping and humiliation disguised as opportunity. I think the whole thing is
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shit, the show has hurt way more people than it's helped, and I've watched a fair
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amount of it and I can't tell you a specific instance of something that made me laugh. All
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that being said, as a performer, as a former stand-up, I felt for Tony-
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Yeah.
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... at Madison Square Garden. That man was struggling.
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Yeah, that was not good.
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All of us who have done stand-up, we know what a bomb feels like, but
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very few people in the world know what it's like to bomb in front of that audience
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in Madison Square Garden during a political rally
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for a former president who seems very much like he wants to be a dictator.
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Whatever panic you're feeling when you get offstage at The Laugh Factory or at Cigars and
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Stripes, that's got nothing on what must've been going through his head.
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Oh, man.
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It's gotta be like, "Could they kill me for this?"
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I mean, you know, it, it... Like,
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everybody... I, I read a lot of people's thoughts on it, and I was like,
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"Whatever. This should never have gotten out into your world."
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Mm-hmm.
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This was not meant for the real world.
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Nah.
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Th- all of their takes are bad, but that's not their fault. It's because it's not supposed to be there.
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Yeah.
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It should just never have been there.
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Your takes are supposed to be implied-
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Yeah.
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... basically.
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Yeah, yeah, yeah. Whatever you guys have to say is whatever.
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You know?
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But, like, Tony should never have taken the gig.
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No.
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It's a terrible gig. And also-
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No.
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... you're not a comedian-
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Also-
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... if you perform for a politician.
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Yeah. And-
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You're a shitty person.
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(laughs) And after it all went bad, Rogan actually even came out and said, "I told him not to do that."
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Yeah.
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(laughs)
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Don't do it. Are you crazy?
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Yeah.
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See, it... they... A lot of people have a lotta complaints, but I, I wanna look at this big-picture.
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Yeah.
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The jokes are not good and-
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No.
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... kind of hacky.
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Yeah.
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You can be edgy and fuck around with race taboos if you want-
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Sure.
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... but it kinda sucks when you do it for no reason.
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The whole structure of the Garbage Island thing is kinda like a playground-level insult, and
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I'm not certain what type of pride you get as a comic out of making that joke. That's like, "Uh,
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hey, the, they found the Loch Ness Monster at your house, and it's your mom."
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Yeah. Yeah, I mean-
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Like, that, that kind of a twist reveal.
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It is-
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Like, "Cool, man."
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It is a '90s... Like, "I'm going there. Not."
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Yeah.
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Yeah. Great.
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I guess if the whole practice of comedy is about
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accruing negative attention you can turn into fame while cloistering yourself in a bubble
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maintained by Joe Rogan's celebrity where you get to do a
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show where you insult open-mikers, if that's all comedy is, then I guess maybe this is exactly what you would
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want to do. But I don't know what it does in terms of any kinda art form.
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Mm.
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Anyway, this joke in particular has backfired spectacularly.
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It seems like the Trump campaign forgot that there is a large Puerto Rican population in some
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important states and that there are a number of
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really famous people who are proud of their roots, like Bad Bunny-
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Sure.
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... who, uh, has a large audience that does not appreciate this kind of tone.
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Mm.
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I suspect that the Trump folks thought that they could ride things out by being
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like, "The left is too uptight. They can't take a joke." But instead, uh,
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they were distancing themselves from Tony pretty quick
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and releasing statements throwing him under the bus.
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Trump was asked in an interview and he said, quote, "I don't know him. Someone
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put him up there. I don't know who he is."
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Yeah. That sounds right.
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Ultimately, this is so funny because this joke (laughs) could impact Trump in the polls,
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or at least has the potential to, so his team is scrambling to
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distance themselves. But I thought Tony said in that
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clip that Republicans were the ones with the good sense of humor.
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Yep.
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The audience seemed to love responding
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to him saying that they had a great sense of humor, and now it seems like they can't, uh, t- stand by the joke.
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I mean, hey, listen.
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I get everybody's points of view. But if you are a person
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who was going to vote one way and then heard that and have decided,
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"No, I will vote the other way," then you are a bad person.
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Mm.
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You are personally not a good person.
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I don't know.
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Because that is fucking pathetic.
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Well, I-
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That is fucking pat-... The man was the president before.
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Right.
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Are you telling me that all of the rape... "Oh, no,
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blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah." Now he talks shit about
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Puerto Rico? Oh, fuck no, I'm voting Harris!
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I think-
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Fuck all these people.
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Maybe, but I think that a lot of people have different awareness bases, and-
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That's fine.
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Yeah. I don't know if that makes them-
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They can have whatever-
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... bad people.
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They can have whatever they like.
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Eh.
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But if you do that, then that's on you. And you can live your life however you like.
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Yeah.
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Just know that that's your choice, is that you are fine with all of the other stuff
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but not the joke about Puerto Rico.
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I think that some people probably don't know, like, some of the realities about what Trump has done.
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Okay.
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And so they're not saying that, "I'll put up with that, but this joke is no good."
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Sure.
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So, I wanted to, uh, talk about this a little bit more.
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Mm-hmm.
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Uh, because I think that the Puerto Rico joke got most of the attention.
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Sure.
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But I think that even in that segment that I just played for you, there's something else
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that embodies how much he's floundering-
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Sure.
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... on the stage.
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Sure.
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And I really wanna enjoy that for a bit.
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Okay, okay.
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Because I really don't like-
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Oh, I'll enjoy that.
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... Tony Hinchcliffe.
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Yeah.
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Free speech is under attack, people. I host a show, and each
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week, I get updates what words we're allowed to use and not use anymore.
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It's happening right now the past few years. It's a real thing. And, uh,
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you know, used to be able to tell people to Google stuff. My mom's a Boomer
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in the state of Ohio, and, uh, there's no convincing her of anything.
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She's eating the cats.
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She's eating the dogs. They're eating the pets up there.
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It is absolutely wild times. It really, really is. And, uh...
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So, the opening premise here is that free speech is under attack, and the payoff of that is supposed to be
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that he gets a new list of words that he can't use every week.
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But he's not delivering that like a punchline. That feels like m- just more
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setup. Like, the real punchline was supposed to be something like,
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"This week, I can't, uh... I found out that I'm not allowed to say restricted or vocabulary anymore."
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Right.
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But there's no joke, and there's no laugh for the idea that he gets a list of words he can't say on his
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self-produced podcast where he insults open-mic comics.
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This isn't treated like a joke because the audience sincerely believes that people like him
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do get these lists of words that they can't
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say, so it just sounds like someone saying a thing to them that is true.
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I think it's supposed to be a heightening of the premise that free speech is under attack, but he got
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so little reaction that he bailed on what it was
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almost certainly supposed to come after that, namely, you know, saying stuff that he's not allowed to say.
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You don't introduce this idea of a list of things you can't say without saying them.
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Can you imagine George Carlin getting there, up there on T-
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be like, "There's seven things you can't say on TV."
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"Now I won't say them."
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"Now let's move along." (laughs)
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"We'll never know, and you will never know what they are-"
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Right. (laughs)
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"... unless you come to my live show."
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It's kind of-... dumb.
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Yeah.
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So instead of getting into the words that he's been told you can't
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say, Tony changes thoughts entirely and talks about how you can't
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Google things anymore. Unfortunately, people, uh, like the
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only reason he's relevant, Joe Rogan, are, uh, e- essential pieces of the media system
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that's elevated shitty information to the point where it's gotten as hard as it is to assess things online.
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It's unfortunate because this is a situation where a comedian could tell truth to power
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and make a joke about how people like Rogan have a responsibility to handle information better
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so bullshit isn't so easily cultivated.
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He doesn't want to piss off Rogan though, so this joke kind of falls apart at the seams.
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It's now about how his mom is a boomer and can't
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Google things anymore, presumably because of the list of
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words he's not allowed to say because free speech is under attack. The connective tissue here is tough.
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This naturally raises a question, which is,
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was his mom ever good at Googling? Him calling her a boomer is
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supposed to make me think that she's not good with technology, so maybe this isn't an issue with Google or
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free speech. Maybe it's just him complaining about his mom. So
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Tony's mom can't Google things, and the punchline of this is that she's in Ohio and she's eating her pets.
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How did this happen as a result of bad Googling?
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That was my question.
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I know that he's just trying to get a pop from the
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crowd by reminding them of the racist panic they use to attack Haitians, but what's the
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actual thought behind putting this on paper?
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Is the idea supposed to be that Tony's mom Googled the story about the Haitian immigrants
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but somehow came away with the impression that what she should be doing is eating her pets?
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Right.
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Is the joke that his mom wanted to eat the pets before anyone else could? Like, what is going on here?
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Right.
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How does any of this relate to the premise of the list of
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words he can't say and how free speech is under attack? These are all disconnected thoughts being poorly and
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lazily delivered by a dude who knows full well that he is eating shit on that stage.
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Yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
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It makes me furious.
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It is, it is... I will, I will say that one thing that got me, one thing got me, t- uh...
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Hmm.
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Uh, uh, I read a, uh, article that was like, that had
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in the second paragraph, uh, "Superstar Comedian Tony Hitch-"
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Yeah.
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And I was like, "Done. You're gone."
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Well-
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"You're gone. Get outta here."
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I don't, I don't wanna defend that phrasing.
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No.
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But, like, w- we do...
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I'm sure he's very popular. And he's far more popular-
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A- a #KillTony is huge.
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I'm sure it's bigger than we'll ever be by a factor of 10 million.
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M- yes.
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Don't care. Do not care. He is a shitty comedian.
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I'm talking about his bits-
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(laughs)
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... from a structural and as a joke perspective.
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Right.
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Because I know that if I criticized, like, oh, hey, the joke that Puerto Rico is a garbage island-
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Whatever.
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... hey, I'm being too sensitive. I'm being uptight.
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Eh.
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And
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I think it's really more interesting how poorly constructed these jokes are and how they make no sense.
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Yeah, yeah.
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Like, he just has this whole thing about like,
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"Oh, I could say all this crazy shit because I'm a comic and
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comedy is important and beh, beh, beh, boh, boh.
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All these fucking idiots." And this jokes, these jokes are bad.
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Yep. I will-
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Structurally bad. Um,
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it, it, you can't hide behind this comedy shield.
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No. No.
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That's what I'm saying.
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No, I will, I will openly admit to laughing at far worse-
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Way worse.
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... racism-based humor-
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Mm-hmm.
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... because the construction of the bit was too good to deny.
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Mm-hmm.
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That is how it works in this horrible world that we, we were congealed out of.
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Mm-hmm.
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That was
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bad-
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Yeah.
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... comedy.
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So, uh, he does get them back a little bit.
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Mm-hmm.
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Uh, he makes a, uh, celebrity joke.
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Okay, that's always a good move.
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He gets them, he gets them back, and then he steers right back into the rocks.
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The other side's got a lot of crazy endorsements: Swift, Eminem, Leo DiCaprio, Beyonce.
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Every day, the Democratic Party looks more and more
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(crowd booing) like a P. Diddy party.
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Oh!
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And they're just a bad audience.
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Okay.
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They're just a bad audience.
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Okay, that's what you guys want.
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All right. Heck yeah. It's a cool Black guy with a
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thing on his head. What the hell is that, a lampshade? Look at this guy.
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Oh, my goodness.
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Wow.
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I'm just kidding. That's one of my buddies. He had a Halloween
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party last night. We had fun. We carved watermelons together. It was awesome.
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(laughs) You guys are... This is a groany, little morning crowd, huh?
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It's tough to follow this, uh, audition for the next Commissioner Gordons over here.
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(laughs)
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So he makes an interesting point.
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(laughing)
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Um,
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because Elon Musk is another speaker at this rally, and Diddy pretty famously helped Musk buy Twitter.
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Seems like an elephant in the room that maybe a truth-teller
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type of comedian might point out, but no. Nah, nah, not, not, not the Hinch.
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(laughs)
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But, uh, so as soon as he gets things back into a place where he feels
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like he's a performer again with this Diddy joke,
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Tony can't resist the urge to have a, "Oh, that's what you want," kind of
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condescending moment towards the audience.
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And you're saying they're a bad audience, and I'm not disagreeing with you.
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No, no, no, yeah.
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But you know that going in if you're a comic, and you just don't do this.
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Yeah, they're not, they're not there for comedy.
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Yeah.
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They're not primed for comedy.
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They're gonna fail as just th- the-
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Totally.
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There's no way.
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And if you've heard political speeches, the
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rhythm of the speech is what they're primed for. So they're primed for
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blankety, blankety, blank. Boo. Blankety, blankety, blankety, blank.
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Yay. They're not primed for complex-
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You-
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... two-step jokes.
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You can exploit that as a, uh, performer who has, like, cut their teeth in standup-
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Totally.
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... and you can do, uh, you can fall into those rhythms and say things that are funny.
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You can get the claps or you can do the thing.
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But you can't really do, uh,
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what amounts to nightclub standup-
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Nope.
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... (laughs) at this.
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Nope.
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And to try-
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Absurd.
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... it makes you kind of a bad comedian in and of itself.
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I mean, imagine, imagine... Okay, like,
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I, I, I would never do Madison Square Garden for a
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whole host of reasons, but impossibility is right up there at the top.
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Mm-hmm.
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Right? But if I was going to do Madison Square Garden,
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I am going to Chris Rock the shit ou- O- I, like, you have to fill yours, the Madison Square Garden with you.
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Hmm.
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And this is a man wilting under the pressure of people not wanting to follow along with bad jokes.
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Yes, and I, I really resent that moment of the like, "Oh, now, where you getting we-
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Yeah, fuck you.
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Like, a- uh, like, yes, it's a bad audience, but this is also your fault.
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This is all your fault.
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Yeah. So he gets that Diddy joke, and he starts to feel the energy.
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Sure.
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And so he goes and does some crowd work-
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No.
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... which consists of him saying that a Black guy carves watermelons for Halloween-
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Oh, right. Right, right, right.
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... and that there are some people who look like Commissioner Gordon.
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Yeah.
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I don't know what's... I, th- this is not good.
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No.
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So I was thinking about this, and it's not as inflammatory as Michael Richards' racist meltdown-
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Sure.
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... but it's kinda giving off the same energy.
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Okay.
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He's having a bad set. He feels the need to puff himself up, and so he does so by resorting to
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really basic and meaningless racist shit, this, this Black guy carves watermelons.
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Yeah.
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Like, he is doing that as, like, almost a,
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like, i- involuntary response.
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I mean, yeah, especially considering, I feel like, uh,
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i- within comedy, we've moved on from that stereotype.
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You'd, you'd think.
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You'd think.
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Yeah.
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We h- that, it was run into the ground 10 years ago.
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Not in roast culture.
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I mean, in fucking Saved by the Bell, it was run into the ground.
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So basically, my point is that there's been a lot of talk about how the Puerto Rico
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joke was a disaster, it might cost Trump votes he needs. But
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not enough time has been spent on how bad this is from a com- like, a comedy perspective.
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Yeah.
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So let's listen to some more.
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Oh, man, you know, you know what I was thinking? I was thinking just, like,
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what type of comic would do this? And it is just, he's punching... He's, his job is to punch down.
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... being on stage and all that stuff.
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Sure.
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You do ask yourself a bit about that possibility, that like is there a
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second conversation that's happening behind this?
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Yeah.
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And I think when he got to this part, I was like, "Nope."
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And then the fight, fight, fight. What he did was so cool
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that Biden got COVID.
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(laughs)
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Oh, yeah. Go back, look at the timeline of everything again.
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Three days after that. That means that Biden, he didn't get that from hanging out with
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sick people. He was in a sterile room in the White House
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watching blood running down Trump's face as he pumps his fist. Biden's like,
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" (coughs) Oh, fuck.
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Oh, God, no."
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It's true.
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Trump survived an assassination attempt and Biden got COVID. We vote next week, God voted three months ago.
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(cheering)
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So that part about Biden getting COVID is supposed to be a joke. And though I don't think it's funny or
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well-constructed, I get that it's supposed to be humor.
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Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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But that line about God voting when Trump wasn't killed in Butler, is that comedy?
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Is, is, is it a bold truth-teller calling-it-like-it-is kind of position to say that
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the divine force behind the creation of the universe
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has decided that the guy you like should be president, divine
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right, uh, is this... This is not telling truth to power. This is bullshit.
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And what I think, i- it hit me in that moment
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when he's, you know, closing up the set, getting towards the end and he says this
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"God voted three weeks ago" bullshit.
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Yeah.
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I realized these idiots all think that they're David Cross during the Iraq War.
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Yeah.
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And they're all Dennis Miller.
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Yep.
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That's what's going on. They all think that they're doing something that is
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kinda dangerous, a little bit fringe, outside, giving a i- like
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a voice to something, and what they're doing is
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Dennis Miller.
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Yep.
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It sucks.
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Yeah. Yeah.
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So congratulations, Tony.
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It is, it is a,
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like
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what was the point of having Dennis Miller in that Monday Night Football, uh, fucking
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broadcast room if it wasn't to teach all of us not to become Dennis Miller?
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Yeah.
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What was the point?
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Uh, culture?
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Ugh.
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References?
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I mean, like, that's what it was about. That was why, I, I hate to say it, that's why God put him there.
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Mm-hmm.
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Is to teach us all not to be this man.
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I th- I think he's a very interesting cautionary tale.
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(laughs)
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Um, and he is what Tony is.
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Yeah.
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He's what Tony embodies.
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Yep.
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What so many of these people in comedy, uh, who are doing this bullshit are.
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I mean, li- and even listening to the, the
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li- like, you're, you're so right because the rhythm and the lilt of it too is just this
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condescending, prickish, "I'm, I'm not
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going to take responsibility for any of the things that I'm absolutely saying-"
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Mm-hmm.
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"... with full conviction."
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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"And I am pretending that I'm some kind of a dissenting renegade voice when all I'm doing
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is kissing up and inf- reinforcing the status quo-"
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Yeah.
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"... in the strictest and most pathetic ways possible."
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Yep.
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So...
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"The caste system should remain like it is, and that's why I'm a rebel!"
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"Why won't... They keep canceling me for saying that!"
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(laughs) Right? "Why won't the king
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just fucking punish me for telling you all how great the king is and how awesome this kingdom is?"
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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So Tony sucks. Um, and I'm glad that I could get a little bit of that off, uh-
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Ugh.
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... you know, get it out.
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Ugh.
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Uh,
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but Alex also wants to play a little bit of, uh, Tucker, Tucker's speech.
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Oh, God.
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Who had the greatest speech...
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Oh, my God.
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... of, uh, of the night.
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Oh, God.
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This was not his speech about how daddy's home.
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Yeah.
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This was not that one...
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Okay.
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... where he talked about spankings.
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I remember that one.
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Yeah, that was rough.
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We might cover that in the future.
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(laughs)
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(laughs) I think he was losing it a little bit. Uh,
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but, uh, here, here he is, uh, from that night, accidentally making a great analogy.
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Imagine if you're... And just pause for one moment. Imagine you're Donald
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Trump, you're from New York City, you become famous in New York City, you make your fortune in New York City,
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and all of a sudden the leadership of New York City decides they're gonna destroy you
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because they don't like your politics. And so they-
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Boo...
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Yeah, boo. Imagine if that were you, though.
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And they try and take everything that you have, they try and
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put you in prison, they try and put your children in prison.
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If that happened to you, how often do you think you'd be going back to New York City?
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How about never?
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And yet he's here. It's like getting thrown out of a bar.
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And you think to yourself, "Well, you know, all my friends are in the bar."
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And you approach the door and there's the bouncer like, "You're not allowed in here."
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But from behind the bouncer you hear the cheers of your friend, "Come on in!"
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And the bouncer hangs his head in shame, "Ugh."
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He's embarrassed that he's working for the man trying to keep the most popular person out of the bar.
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And that's Donald Trump back in the city that produced him with no embarrassment at all.
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So that's actually a really good analogy because people are almost
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never thrown out of bars unless they did something to deserve it.
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The bar wants people there because they, they make money off you
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overpaying for drinks, so it's very much against their interest to throw someone out who's not a problem.
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I've been thrown out of bars and every single time, I deserved it.
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Yep.
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I was never fighting or anything, but one
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time I did, like I was wasted and I tried to hug a friend of mine and he moved
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and I accidentally knocked over a table.
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Time for you to go.
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Exactly.
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Time for you to go, buddy. You had too much.
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Right. I fell through the table.
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Yep.
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And the bouncer came up and I was like, "Way ahead of you."
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"Hey, you and me both, sir."
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Yep.
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"I'm out of here."
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"Nope. Nope. Cool."
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"I, who, would you like me to throw myself out?"
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Yeah, exactly.
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"I will happily do so."
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I've been a door guy at a bar and it was not easy to get me to kick you out.
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There were some hard lines like harassing people or fighting, but
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the bar that I worked at at least, if the bouncer said you were out, you were
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not getting back in and you had it coming.
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This is also a great analogy because the audience is like the drunk asshole's friends who are still
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at the bar. Trump's been kicked out because of his behavior
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and the friends are all too drunk and caught up in their friend's cult of personality
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to realize that he deserved to be kicked out of the bar.
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Maybe the next morning they'll wake up with a hangover and it'll hit them that their friend was a dick, or
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maybe they'll keep defending him and grow resentful of that bar
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who was just following the rules and protecting other customers.
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But that's a question for the next morning.
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As it stands now, everyone's drunk except the bouncer and they are in on it.
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They love it.
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Mm-hmm.
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And this is a fun fantasy where you just force your way back in and you humiliate the bouncer, but
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in the real world, you're gonna get your ass kicked.
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A lot of bouncers I've known, the, uh, maybe not everybody but a lot of them I know are just
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pretty nice people who are waiting for someone to fuck with them so they could kick their ass.
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Yeah.
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That's a, that's a character type for a reason.
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(laughs)
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But all this kind of works as a metaphor.
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Trump has violated the rules of the country and has been thrown out of the bar by polite society.
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He wants to force his way back in and take over the bar, and his friends/supporters, they're all wasted
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and they're enabling him in his effort.
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Tucker is stupid and an asshole, but he stumbled onto something decent here in terms of a metaphor.
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Yeah. Yeah. It's like, it's like if you got kicked out of the bar
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and all of his friends went with him, and then the next morning they bought the bar
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and turned it into a place where you could behave like Trump did,
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uh, all the time.
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And then it turns out that nobody wants to live in that bar.
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Yeah.
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'Cause it's awful.
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Yeah.
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People who are decent-
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Other, other bars are gonna go out of business.
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It is, it is so crazy. It is, it is truly crazy that it's like...
