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I'm sick of them posing as if they're the good guys, saying, we are the bad guys, knowledge
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fight I'm sick of them posing as if they're the good guys, saying, we are the bad guys,
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knowledge fight.
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Dan and Jordan, knowledge fight.
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We need money.
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We need money.
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We need money.
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We need money.
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We need money.
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Hey everybody, welcome back to knowledge fight, I'm Dan, I'm Jordan, we're a couple of dudes
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that like to sit around and worship at the altar of Selene and talk a little bit about
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Alex Jones.
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Indeed we are, Dan and Jordan.
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Quick question for you.
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What's your bright spot today, buddy?
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Why don't you go first?
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My bright spot is my wife and I went out for dinner for her birthday with her moms.
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Okay, because on the last episode you said you didn't want to go out for the birthday.
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We didn't do it privately for the two of us, we just did a hangout day.
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Last night the moms, now that's what I'm calling them, the moms took us out to a lovely dinner,
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it was great, we met- Do you care to say where you went?
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It would be impossible for me to say where because I do not remember the date.
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What type of food were you talking about?
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It was Italian.
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Okay.
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It was very good.
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Nice.
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It was very good Italian.
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I'm not normally an Italian guy because of where I was born.
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They all got pasta, not me.
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That's what you do a lot of the time at an Italian place.
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That's what they do, that's what you do, that's why I don't go to Italian places.
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They had a special, a nice little eight ounce filet, fucking amazing.
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Sure.
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It was incredibly, it was so good.
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Got a nice steak.
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Have not eaten like that in so long.
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We do like a meal kit thing that's like cheap and healthy.
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Sure.
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I have not eaten- Not a big ass steak.
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Not a fucking, it was like eight ounces, it was huge.
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Love it.
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Yeah.
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Yep.
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So that was great.
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I probably would have gone pasta.
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Probably.
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But I'm a carb-y kind of guy.
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See, we both, our diet has gotten so small and our stomachs have shrunk so much and she
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tried to eat some pasta, she left a good 75% of it.
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That's kind of- So much pasta.
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That's kind of the allure often of going out to get pasta is that they give you way too
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much.
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You'll have pasta for days if you want to.
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Yeah, yeah.
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Yeah, there's that.
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That's, I remember that.
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I haven't gone out for pasta in a long time.
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I was going to say, it's been a long time since you've gone for pasta.
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Yeah, but like the Cacchio Pepe, which I've been told I mispronounced and I don't give
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a shit.
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Doesn't matter.
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Yep.
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How about you?
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Cacchio Pepe is not really a bright spot, but it's sort of, I don't know.
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I watched Trump's speech in Coachella.
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Okay.
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He was in Coachella.
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He wasn't at, was he at Coachella?
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Coachella isn't this week.
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No, I mean, I think it's just, isn't it a city?
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Like it's not just the festival.
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It's not just the festival.
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It's like a place.
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He wasn't at the festival.
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He wasn't at the festival.
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He wasn't like headlining next to Tyler, the creator.
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No, no.
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He wasn't right there.
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It was not put on by the same people who bring you Coachella.
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But yeah, it was there.
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And I don't know, it was weird.
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I guess the feelings that I have around it are strange and maybe a bright spot.
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There are a couple of things that stood out to me.
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Okay.
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One was that it appeared that someone collapsed of like heat stroke or something in the middle
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of it.
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And Trump stopped talking to be like, kill them.
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It felt like there was a hold on, let's wait.
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While the medics take care of the, and I was like, I can't judge that.
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This is a hiccup in terms of presentation.
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It looks bad, but someone's getting some medical assistance.
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You stop the speech.
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Hey, I guess that makes sense.
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There's something human there.
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Yeah.
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But that was about the extent of it in terms of humanizing moments.
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That sounds right.
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It's a lot of too big to rig talk, which doesn't bode well for respecting the election.
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The feed that I was watching, I think it was on PBS, was of just a straight shot of him
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on stage.
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And so at a couple of points, there were video packages that played.
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And so Trump would turn away from the camera and be looking at a screen that was over,
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like to his forward to the left, but there was also a screen on the other side.
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And so everybody in the audience was looking forward and to their left.
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So Trump looked like he was looking off into nowhere.
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So he's looking into stage right and they're looking into stage left.
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Yeah.
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Like the worst musical anybody's ever seen.
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Yes.
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And it was very confusing and his back was to the camera and it just looked weird.
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But there was a video that he played about how the military is too woke, right?
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Sure.
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That happens.
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And it was like, you know, just like, hey, it's pride.
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And they're like shitting on people celebrating pride in the military.
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But then juxtaposed with that was clips from like Full Metal Jacket and stuff of like drill
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sergeants being like, you're scum.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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Great.
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Do we want to do that?
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Is that what we want to aspire towards?
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I don't know.
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I don't know anymore.
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I don't know if that was like the point of these movies was like that dehumanization
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and that process is what we should aspire towards.
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Yeah.
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That's good.
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Yeah.
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I don't think that's the point.
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Yeah.
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But that's how it was presented for sure.
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Yeah.
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That made me uncomfortable.
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I mean, these people who really don't want to celebrate pride in the militaries do not
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study a lot of militaries and the rampant, let's go with Bonin.
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I feel like also there's a disregard of just basic human psychology of like, hey, you know,
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this stuff isn't good for people.
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No.
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No.
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The shit that's in all these movies is bad.
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No.
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That's the point.
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It's bad.
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You see?
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No.
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No, no, no.
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You know those things where they're like, hey, you shouldn't kill people.
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Well, you have to torture that out of them before they can go out and murder people.
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It seems-
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Oh, that does sound like what we do, doesn't it?
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Yeah.
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I was just very conflicted.
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It was very strange.
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But anyway, I made it through.
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Good.
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And so today we have an episode to go over.
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We're going to be talking about October 4th through 8th.
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Oh, man.
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2024.
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We're trying to play a little catch up here.
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Trying to catch up.
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I gotcha.
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And I don't know.
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This episode's stupid.
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There's a lot of dumb shit.
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Sure.
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And then it ends ambitiously.
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Okay.
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But a disaster.
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Yeah.
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Natural and rhetorical.
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Okay.
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But we'll get down to business on all of this, but first let's take a little moment to say
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hello to some new woks.
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Oh, that's a great idea.
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So first, I'm getting sworn in as a barred attorney, and one week later Infowars is auctioned
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off.
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God bless Celine for this week of justice.
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Thank you so much.
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You're now a policy wonk.
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I'm a policy wonk.
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Thank you very much.
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Thank you.
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Next, I asked my partner what our shout out should be, and he said, whatever makes sense.
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Thank you so much.
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You're now a policy wonk.
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I'm a policy wonk.
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Thank you very much.
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Thank you.
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Next, shout out to auto magic.
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Tell mama that hambone has always been an environmentalist and that there are peas in
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the guac.
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Next, you're now a policy wonk.
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I'm a policy wonk.
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Thank you very much.
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Thank you.
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And thank you to a 50 foot tall praying mantis sleep paralysis demon.
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You're now a policy wonk.
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I'm a policy wonk.
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Thank you very much.
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Terrifying.
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Yeah.
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But does that 50 foot tall praying mantis sleep paralysis demon hate Christians?
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Because that is the defining characteristic for Alex.
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What a weird thing for a mantis to care about.
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Yeah.
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But mantises, who knows?
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Yeah.
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Who knows what's going on inside their minds?
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We think we understand the mantis.
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I want that.
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I don't know why, but that tickles me.
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I want that on a little sheet of paper.
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We think we understand the mantis.
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So let's see if this out of context drop tickles you as well.
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It might.
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Hey, I'm doing everything I can to be nice and calm and friendly and nice like Fonzie.
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Cool like Fonzie.
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Hey, cool like Fonzie.
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I do think that Fonzie is cool.
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Is he nice?
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I don't think I, I, I may be wrong here and I'm willing to accept that sometimes cool
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people are nice also.
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But I think one of the defining characteristics of cool people, at least in most circumstances,
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is that niceness is not part of it.
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I think he beats people up sometimes.
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Yeah.
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I think he insults Ralph mouth all the time.
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I mean, it is, it is certainly sometimes cool to not be nice.
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You know what's cool?
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Being mean to Pazzi.
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It does feel like that's cool.
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A lot of coolness does ultimately revolve around bullying as well.
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He's really nice to like the Cunninghams.
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Yeah, that's true.
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I mean, Jesus was cool.
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You know how you treat the least of these is how you treat it.
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I would say that Jesus is nice.
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I would say he's cool and nice.
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Like defining character wise for Fonzie.
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Right?
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You know who's cool, who's real nice?
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Arthur.
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Anyway, there's not a whole lot from the fourth or the sixth.
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So we're just going to start off here is a clip from the fourth.
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We have so much massive news on this live Friday, October 4th, 2024 transmission.
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But I learned at 7 a.m. this morning from my lawyers, and I have all the documents and
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filings right here, that the Democrat deep state has gone next level.
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They literally, this has been adjudicated, the Supreme Court, the Texas Supreme Court,
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the Fifth Circuit, all of it, are saying they own my name and own me.
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And that, like I'm a corporation, they want a receiver appointed that owns me forever.
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That's why they didn't want to settle.
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They wanted it to be non-dischargeable.
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And when they shut down Infowars if they're successful, it doesn't matter.
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Anything but a billion and a half dollars, they say they own me.
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Now, the courts have all ruled you can't do this, it's cut and dry, but they don't care
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because they believe they control the courts in Travis County, which they're now filing
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the Democratic Party has officially.
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Now, I can show you the headlines where they say they want to own the name Alex Jones,
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they want to own real Alex Jones on X, they admit they want to set that precedent, and
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they say they own everything I do and anything I ever say.
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Now, that's not true, that's a fraud.
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But as I've said to you, they want me off the air when President Trump is president-elect,
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and they're moving to shut us down now on October 17th.
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October 17th now is the day, not into November.
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Okay.
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Okay, so yeah, we got some big movement on this front.
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That's nice.
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So boring.
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I like the idea that Alex will finally go full sovereign citizen and just be like, they
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think that my name is a corporation.
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It's all capital letters in the show.
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You might as well at this point.
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So what's going on here is, when you have your shit auctioned off, generally speaking,
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there'll be a receiver that takes ownership of that in the interim time, right?
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It's not like this is auctioned off and then you hand it to the person who buys it.
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Typically, there's an intermediary of like, I don't know, you're auctioning off a boat
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or something.
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This person takes the neutral territory as ownership of the boat in the meantime.
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And I think that that's what's happening with Alex.
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Yeah, that would make sense.
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I think that some of his stuff is maybe being transferred into neutral hands, or at least
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there's movement in that direction and I think he's not happy about it.
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I like the idea of this auction actually working like the one in Hudson Hawk, where Richard
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Grant and just walking, blowing up stuff, explosions, yeah, that'd be great.
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I hope it is.
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But silence.
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Yep.
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So, on the sixth, Alex is just, I just found this so exhausting.
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It's a lot of fundraiser-y stuff.
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And then also just being so thrilled about Elon Musk.
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Just a lot of Elon bootlicking.
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They just started a few years ago, now they're winning all the major regional elections and
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they just won the parliamentary election, but it takes several to get in full power.
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But they're now the biggest party in Germany.
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AFD is the most powerful party in Germany.
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It's a nationalist conservative party, kind of like mainline populist.
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And now the leftist parties have combined forces to ban the AFD in Germany, ladies and
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gentlemen.
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Again, total, complete desperation.
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Gandhi said, first, tyrants ignore you, then they laugh at you, then they attack you, then
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you what?
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When?
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When?
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When?
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Before.
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Then they laugh, then they attack, then you win.
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Incredible.
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New big national poll.
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Majority of voters believe cheating will be probable in election.
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Despite all the brainwashing and establishment, it's not working.
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The gaslighting, once people are awake, is backfiring.
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Elon Musk warns, if we don't get Trump in, 35 trillion US bankruptcy is imminent.
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And that's what the big international rating firms like Moody's and others say.
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the head of the unelected EU just came out.
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We have this video and said we must follow the plan
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for limits to growth in the club of Rome
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through the WEF for deindustrialization and depopulation.
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Ursula Van Der Leyden will play that clip coming up.
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Ladies and gentlemen, I mean,
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this is just absolutely epic.
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What's going on?
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Now, I wanna go to the short but powerful
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six and a half minute speech of Elon Musk last night
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in Butler, and if you wanna share it,
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again, it's up at RealAlexJones and it's at M4Wars.com,
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and I'm gonna come right back
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and cut right to the heart of the matter straight ahead.
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Here is Elon Musk 100% in the fight for team humanity.
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See, Elon Musk spoke at Trump's rally
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and declared himself Dark Maga.
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I'm sorry?
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Yeah.
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You didn't hear that?
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No. Ooh.
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What is Dark Maga?
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He wore a black hat.
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Oh, for God's sakes.
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Yeah. What are we doing?
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Evil Dark Maga.
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Why would you want evil?
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You're not supposed to be evil.
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What?
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Sometimes you need the Suicide Squad
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to come and solve some problems.
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I don't want the richest man in the world on this squad.
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I mean, I guess I do want him
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on that specific squad only though.
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The richest man in the world is Dark Maga.
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Oh my God.
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That's bad.
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That's bad.
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Yeah, it is.
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That's just bad on a just life level,
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but also on a personal level.
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You should be aiming for higher than Dark Maga.
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Yeah.
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Yeah, it's embarrassing.
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Yeah.
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So it's also really funny how Alex kept pretending
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that he was concerned about people like Jack Dorsey
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being too political while they were running websites
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that are essentially the public square,
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but now Elon is a comical level of political
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and Alex can't get enough of it.
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He's fighting a hundred percent for team humanity.
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Oh, fuck yourself.
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This is a great illustration of how Alex uses fake positions
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to try to reach more people.
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His problem was never that someone like Jack or Zuckerberg
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was too political,
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it's that they were saying political stuff he didn't like.
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That's a pretty weak argument to try to make
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and you're not going to win many people over with it.
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So opposing any politicization of people
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who run social media sites
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is a much stronger way to present yourself.
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At the time, this was pretty safe
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because all the heads of social media
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who are relevant public figures
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were presentable as globalists.
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This is a place where you can secretly hold
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a pretty partisan position,
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but pretend you're coming from this place
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of like your principles.
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Then when Musk comes along
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and is the most embarrassingly political person
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you could imagine as the head of a social media company,
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but he's supporting Trump,
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this is no longer a principle thing because it never was.
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It was a trick that Alex was pulling on the audience.
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People who run social media platforms
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have an outsized influence
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and should have some measure of neutrality
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is a compelling position
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that a lot of people can get behind.
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Conversely, people who run social media platforms
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have an outsized level of influence
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and should have some measure of neutrality
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unless they're on my side is less so.
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That is less convincing,
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but that's what Alex is embodying and it's sad.
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Yeah, yeah, it is a little bit like,
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I understand people being fans of the home team,
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you know, but if you went out to watch like a football game
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and one of the teams was forced
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to be inside of the ground dead,
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it would not be an interesting game.
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Nah.
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No, you have to have equal teams on both sides.
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Yeah, and like liking the home team is great.
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Sure.
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Pretending that you like the home team
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because they're the only ones who understand the sport
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or something, it's...
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Yeah, you're describing Cardinals fans, it makes sense.
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Well, that's different.
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That makes perfect sense, you've explained everything, man.
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They play the game the right way, Dan.
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I'm not a Cardinals fan, I can't speak on this.
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So I just, I felt like these two days,
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this Friday and Sunday were just disasters.
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There was so much just trying to promote
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his Give Send Go campaign,
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trying to get people to give him money.
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He leaves halfway through the Sunday show,
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Chase Geiser just takes over.
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He's playing the clip of Elon at the rally
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and it's just like, oh God, what a disaster.
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That's gross.
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So then we get to the seventh
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and Monday, business picks up a little bit
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because Alex has seen a video that John Stossel made
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that someone else named Elon Musk retweeted
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about how Native Americans aren't so great after all.
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What?
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Also, John Stossel's put out a great report
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that Elon reposted, but he doesn't go all the way
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and I want to play this report about Native Americans
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and then give you the rest of the story.
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And I'm not attacking Native Americans.
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I'm a little bit Native American myself.
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My great grandmother was half Native American,
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my dad's grandmother, and I respect Native Americans.
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But that said, the way they push them,
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like they were these little angel cakes
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and perfect is pure crap.
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And if you understand that lie,
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they push all the other lies that are going on
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and unfolding, so we're going to hit that as well.
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But right as I was going live,
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I learned of an emergency
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today that could potentially shut us down.
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That's how crazy this is.
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And I'm just very calmly handling it all.
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I was already planning to play some excerpts
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of Saturday's incredible rally
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when Trump returned to Butler.
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And I was already planning to get to that later,
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but I'm going to have to go deal with this
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for a few minutes.
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It might just take five, 10 minutes.
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That's how crazy it is right now.
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I have to make the decisions, I have to do it.
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And then I will come back.
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Yeah, so Alex has to go off air again.
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But John Stossel, so what he did is he did a piece
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where he interviewed a guy who wrote a book
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called Lies My Liberal Teacher Taught Me.
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And most of the video that Stossel made
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seems to be about how the animated Pocahontas movie
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isn't real.
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It's not real.
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It is not real.
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And I hope your teachers didn't teach you
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that it was real.
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Yeah, and I guess Elon reposted a clip of this
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and everyone's mad about it,
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so it's the top story of the day.
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Oh my God.
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This is wild.
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I never really expected to turn on the show
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and it be like, you know what?
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Fuck Pocahontas.
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What are we doing?
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Yeah.
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What are we,
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I mean, when is enough enough
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for one culture to another?
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When is enough?
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Just say enough, guys.
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Well, for Alex, enough is enough
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once someone gives him a call that there's an emergency.
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So he had to get off air.
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That's fair.
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And I hate that this train of thought was disrupted
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and we don't get to hear more about his feelings
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about John Stossel's great Pocahontas video.
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If only.
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Yeah.
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I know every rock and every creature has a voice
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and a spirit and a name.
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Well, very specifically,
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that's what they're talking about not being true.
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God damn it.
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Yeah.
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That song.
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So Alex comes back about a half hour into the show
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and we realize what happened.
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I'm going on air,
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the show's starting,
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and Louis, the head of our social media walks over,
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goes, I just got this email.
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We're supposed to hand over all the passcodes to X group,
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to all the social media and everything and info wars.
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And I said, no,
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because the people that are involved with the court are here
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and I'm not going to say they're bad guys.
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I go to the other building,
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have a 20 minute conversation with them
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and say, you go ahead and tee it up in front of the court.
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You're not doing that until this place is sold.
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And they agreed and backed off of it.
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But that's the type of stuff
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that I've got to deal with in live time.
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And I'm not complaining.
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I'm not bitching, but believe me,
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you think I want to go off the air
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the first 20 minutes of the show?
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Yes.
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So just pray for us.
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Just pray for us.
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It's so funny to sit back and realize
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that what Alex is saying is that part of the devil's plan
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that involves like celestial warfare
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over all of human history,
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this is nefarious, the tempting of man's soul.
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A lot of it hinges on Alex keeping his Twitter password.
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It's really important.
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It's really important.
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He has to go off air for 20 minutes
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because the people who are like holding his bankruptcy
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estate want to have access to his Twitter account.
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Yeah.
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Yep.
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Makes sense to me.
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I bet it's not that strong of a password.
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I bet it doesn't even have three different types
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of character on the, oh man.
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I don't know.
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It's probably run by Chase.
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So it might have-
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Oh, that's a good point.
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Better security than you think.
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Might be taken care of.
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So we got-
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We give Chase a lot more technical credit
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than maybe he's demonstrating.
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I'm not sure I give him that much credit.
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I just give him more than Alex.
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That's fair, that's fair.
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So we got a situation in the world right now
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where there's multiple hurricanes that are in play.
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Yeah, great.
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Even on the seventh.
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Great.
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And Alex is thinking about this.
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He's thinking, I think Harris did this.
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I think Kamala Harris did this.
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You think Kamala did it by herself?
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She might have done these hurricanes.
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All right.
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Let me just say this.
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I'm an expert on weather control and weather modification
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because I've been on air for three years
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and I've interviewed the father of weather weapons
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when that was declassified.
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I've interviewed the pilots that run the operations,
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the ground control, radar installations
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that they tell you are for Doppler radar.
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That's only one use, it's for weather control.
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That's all declassified.
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And I see a lot of interest now.
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Everything we do on the subject
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gets five, 10 million views on X.
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And then I see the public finally understanding
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this is real.
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There are world treaties, UN treaties.
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The CIA admits they're involved in it
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with the Department of Energy.
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Other governments are involved.
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And so I'm not gonna do it today,
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but I am collating a bunch of the history of it
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and a bunch of the real information on it
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from meteorologists and others.
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And in the next few days,
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I'm gonna do in-depth reports with the latest info
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on it for you.
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But the fact is, since 1967,
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the government certified at the Pentagon
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through Stanford Research Institute a 30-year program
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and certified they can create hurricanes
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even not in hurricane season.
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They can steer them, control them,
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make them stronger, make them weaker.
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And they can easily make them die in the ocean
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and dump their water.
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So bare minimum, they're not blocking these hurricanes.
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Yeah, bare minimum.
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Kamala Harris is responsible for not stopping
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these hurricanes.
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That is an interesting take.
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It's a dangerous precedent to set for responsibility.
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Probably not good.
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I do like the idea that Alex is thinking about
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putting together a presentation about this.
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I like it.
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Yeah.
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I like it a lot.
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Yeah, I saw you were writing a note down,
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but I also noticed that you're out of ink.
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Well, I mean, I think-
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You gotta get a new pen, man.
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I do, I do.
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There's two right there. There's multiple,
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but that's my spinning pen.
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Sorry.
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It's not such a good spin, actually, to it.
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It says the right weight?
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Yeah, yeah, yeah, it's really balanced.
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I'll see if I can replace that.
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No, I was writing down,
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here's my proof for why there aren't weather weapons, right?
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If you go back and look through spy stuff
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or just regular ass cop stuff,
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they abuse their power mainly to bother exes.
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You know, there's people who've wasted millions of dollars
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of government resources following their ex around,
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like spying on them, right?
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You would hear about somebody
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who's constantly being rained on, at least once,
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like literally every single day this way,
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I went on vacation, every single day it was raining.
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That's how you'd know.
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Oh, you don't mean like a tiny little cloud
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following them around raining.
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No, well, I kind of do in a lot of ways, but-
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But more just like the weather is always bad.
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The weather's always bad around me.
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Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
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Maybe that does happen a lot and we just don't hear.
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That would be interesting.
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It's possible.
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Yeah.
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So obviously when Alex is saying like,
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we're getting a lot of traffic
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on these hurricane weather weapons videos,
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it's because there's deeply traumatic hurricanes
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that are going on right now
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and there's an increased interest in this
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and people looking for pulp bullshit entertainment
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that Alex can provide.
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And so he sees more traffic from this
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and he responds to it by creating more content like this
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and making sensational claims
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that he cannot back up in any way.
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Yeah, the cycle continues.
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Yep, so you make some sensational claims.
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It's all just so stupid.
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Crew pulled up from the official C-SPAN website,
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June 29th, 2016, you can watch the whole thing.
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John Brennan admits total weather control by the CIA.
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Or 2018, excuse me, I was misreading the notes.
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Was that 18 or 16?
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Oh, the clip was from 16, but they updated it on 18.
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I guess they got their archives updated.
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There you go.
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So, and he talks about like we're idiots,
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like they're at the big table at Thanksgiving,
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we're at the little table,
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and he just says, then we keep this from the public
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because it might upset them,
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but we have weather control and we control the weather
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and it's a nice weapon as well.
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And so the reason I harp on that, pun intended,
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is bottom line, bare minimum,
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they could kill every hurricane
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coming into the United States
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or weaken it, but they don't.
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Instead, they do things,
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since they started recording the activity of hurricanes,
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that hurricanes have never done.
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And then they tell you it's your fault
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because you've got a car or a house
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or a rain stove that's gas powered,
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that it's your fault and you've got to pay them carbon taxes
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and lower your standard of living and not have children.
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So obviously Brennan didn't say the stuff
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in the clip that Alex is talking about.
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It's just his imagination being projected onto what
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Alex has made appear to be a primary source.
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But bigger picture,
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this seems like a bad narrative road to go down.
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If the standard is that all natural disasters are avertable
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and only happening because the globalists
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are letting them happen,
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then Trump's responsible for all of the disasters
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that happened when he was in office.
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And if he gets in again, or anyone Alex supports does,
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any tornado or hurricane that happens on their watch
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is their fault.
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Alex is in essence promising a future without any threat
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from the weather if his side gets in charge.
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And that's something they obviously can't deliver.
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This is a sort of narrative that will end up requiring
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there to always be a rogue set of globalists controlling
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the weather devices, no matter who gets elected.
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It's just stupid.
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This is, this is desperate.
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I mean, it is, it is interesting
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because it feels like we've gone through to the other side
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where Zeus controlling the weather makes way more sense.
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I would prefer they're just like,
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oh man, the wind god is out of control today.
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That would be more productive than being like,
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oh, Kamala did it?
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Sure, by not doing anything.
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Yeah, we gotta go back to,
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we gotta go back to the pantheon.
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I think we gotta do it.
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I think we're on our way.
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I think it's a step in that direction.
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I think you're right.
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So Alex wants to talk to you on economy news here.
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And so he tries by playing a meme.
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But the first thing I want to do is play a clip
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of economist Michael Gibson,
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who does a good job in just a few minutes boiling down
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what's already happening around the world
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and what's starting to happen here.
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The globalists are turning down the velocity of money
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while creating more debt
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and creating depressionary conditions,
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that's stagflation for the general public,
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while they give themselves unlimited money
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through the central banks to buy everything up.
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It's a vertical integration.
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It's a scorched earth system where the bureaucrats
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working for the big private banks use policy as a weapon.
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Here he is.
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Okay, so you gotta understand the steps
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that are gonna take place.
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Well, now once the FedNow system goes in place,
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it's supposed to go online July 1st.
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That's the infrastructure that allows the CBD seed to work.
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Now, they're saying the cover story,
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if you Google what that is,
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it says it's a payment processing point to point.
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So it's instantaneous, that's all bullshit.
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That's the cover story.
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Because if they told you this is the infrastructure
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for what's gonna make you a slave from now on,
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nobody would go for it, like they would revolt.
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So they have to put a cover story out about what it is
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so that you'll allow it to go in place.
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So just know that that story is bull.
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Once that's in place,
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you'll watch the market start to decline
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because now they're set up
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and they need to crash the markets,
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cut off the supply of money, which is already happening
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in other countries.
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If you've not seen the videos,
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cause they only last a few minutes when people post them,
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before they take them down,
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of the riots going on in the banks being burnt to the ground
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in other countries right now,
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because they've already seized their money.
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They've got a total blackout on it in the media.
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I wanna get that guy on, his stuff's dead on.
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Was watching a lot of it this weekend,
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I already knew he was,
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but I just kind of did a little bit of a binge.
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He knew who this guy was, this famous economist,
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Michael Gibson.
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He's not a famous economist.
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Never heard of him.
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He's a guy who makes TikToks.
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He is.
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And his 310 followers on Twitter.
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Okay.
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He rants about various right-wing culture war type issues,
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wearing a silly Indiana Jones type hat,
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while sitting in what's meant to look like
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a very rich person's study.
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Alex may know the name Michael Gibson as an economist
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because a different Michael Gibson
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is on the board of directors of the Federal Reserve System.
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That guy is a respected economist with a PhD from MIT,
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but it should be stressed.
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This is a different person.
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The Michael Gibson that Alex is covering
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is an entrepreneur type guy with heavy scam vibes.
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The guy Alex is talking about is from Kentucky.
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If you poke around a little bit,
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you'll find out that he got divorced in 2007
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and then shit got a little bit ugly.
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He and his wife had a kid together and in May, 2015,
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she needed to pick up some soccer shoes
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that were at Gibson's house.
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She texted him that she was at the house
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and he replied that if she came back,
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she quote, would be treated as a hostile trespasser
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and that he would protect his property
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with all the force allowed under Kentucky Castle law.
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Quote, the court found that based upon his mention
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of the Castle Doctrine, it was clear to the family court
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that Michael intended to warn Shelby
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that he would shoot her if she came onto his property again
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and that no other meaning could be taken
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from his statements.
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From the court document rejecting his request
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to dismiss a domestic violence case.
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Quote, Shelby testified that she's afraid
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Michael might kill her.
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Upon questioning, Shelby explained that Kimberly Gibson,
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Michael's ex-wife, told her that Michael was going
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to put a bomb under her car.
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Ms. Gibson also told her that Michael had researched
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an acid he could put on her skin
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so that her body would not be recognized.
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So he seems real cool.
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Sure.
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Wrong Michael Gibson.
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Alex is thinking it's a famous economist
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and this show is just a Twitter recap show.
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Like he just found a meme of some guy
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in an Indiana Jones hat and he's talking about it
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because it works.
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Wow.
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Yeah.
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Wow.
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Some guy who threatened to throw acid on his wife
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so her body would not be recognized.
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I question, now, this is just me
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because I don't like making threats.
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I don't think it's a good idea to make threats
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but I think a real bad threat is I'm going to put a bomb
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under your car.
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Sure.
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That's one you don't want following you around.
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Yeah.
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Because once you've thought about putting a bomb
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under somebody's car, then it's an option.
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I've never once considered like,
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oh, maybe a bomb would go under there.
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Yeah.
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I also think that if you are the car bombing type.
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So the IRA.
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I think that the element of surprise is important.
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I think so too.
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I don't think that that's something
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you threaten somebody with.
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What was it?
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I think you just do it.
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You don't want somebody to be like,
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a car bomb's about to go off and they're like, Mike.
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Yeah.
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Didn't Cleveland had a weird spate
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of car bombings for a while?
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Maybe.
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Union disagreement that worked itself out with car bombs?
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Maybe.
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Something like that.
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But I think that once you say,
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I'm going to put a bomb under your car.
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Yeah.
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You might start checking your car more.
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I would definitely check.
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Not take the car.
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Maybe you'd take the bus.
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I mean.
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Anyway, it's not a cool.
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The Fonz wouldn't do it.
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That's too far.
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That's too far.
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Cause the Fonz might elbow the car.
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Boom, all done.
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The Fonz is too nice.
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Hey.
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So Alex has had a ripple effect on culture.
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Sure.
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Definitely true.
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We know that.
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Yep.
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Marvel movies even.
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In game blueprint for global enslavement.
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You should watch it.
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It's ultra green.
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It's not just evergreen.
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It's better than when I made it in 2007
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because it's all come true.
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Has it?
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And by the end of the film,
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I tell you what the next agenda will be in agenda 2030,
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which you're now living in.
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And you'll be like, my God, it's two and a half hour film.
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The first two hours has all come true.
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The last 30 minutes I bring you to where we are now.
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And then what happens next?
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You might want to have the blueprint of the enemy.
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That's why it's called end game blueprint
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for global enslavement.
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And I'm intending to make a new end game.
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I dare you.
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That's something like, you know, end game.
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Final war.
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I mean, it's, people go in and there's a movie,
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Marvel Comet's biggest movie, end game.
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And it's all about depopulation of the galaxy by Thanos.
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Well, I have to talk to the writers on that.
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And end game, Blue River Global Enslavement influenced it.
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It's like Dave Mustaine made his album end game
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and said it's based on the film.
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Not bragging.
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I'm showing you the cultural power we all have.
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Yeah, man, Alex is Captain America.
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He's Star-Lord, I know that.
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Yeah.
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But is he Captain America or Tony Stark?
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I think he's more of an ant man
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because he gets real big sometimes,
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but then also sometimes he's real small.
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Spiritually, he may have some ant man in it.
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Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
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What else?
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Definitely not Thor.
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No.
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No, too much hair, too much hair for that.
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The Hulk?
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I could see him, no,
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because the Hulk eventually becomes able
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to be both the Hulk and Bruce Banner simultaneously
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in end game.
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Yeah, that's true.
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Yeah.
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Hmm.
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Nope.
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I don't know if there's a good fit for him.
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The guy who drives Tony Stark around?
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That would be Jon Favreau.
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Yeah, maybe he's Jon Favreau.
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He's happy, isn't that his name?
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Maybe, could be.
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That would be an ironic title for him.
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I think if anyone, it's probably,
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I don't even know,
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I think Eddie Brock is too much
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of a sympathetic character now.
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Yeah, Eddie Brock's great now.
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Everybody loves Eddie Brock.
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Back when he sucked.
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Back when he sucked, back when he was Topher Grace.
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Yeah.
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He's Topher Brock, that's what we're doing.
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As we'll say.
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Yeah.
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So I thought that it was very exciting,
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the idea of him making another end game.
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True.
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Nothing but time to watch that dog shit.
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Sure.
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But yeah, he starts talking about,
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I'm gonna do this.
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I'm gonna update that shit.
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Oh, he's trying.
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We should re-upload that text.
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We did, we should re-upload it again.
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You know what?
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I will re-upload it tomorrow,
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but I'm gonna shoot an intro to it.
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And I'm gonna shoot some updates throughout it.
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Ooh, I'll put out an end game
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Blue River Global Enslavement update.
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That's what I'll do.
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I don't wanna wait, I wanna get it out now.
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Write that down, folks.
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Don't let me forget, crew.
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Write down that.
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A lot of the news here.
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But before I show it,
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Van der Leyden saying,
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let me give you some background.
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So in 1956,
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they create the Treaty of Rome,
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which officially sets up the EU.
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And then they don't officially launch it to the public
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until 2000.
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And now it's always dissolving power
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of the governments and overtaxing.
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And so the EU commission that runs it is unelected.
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And Herman Van Rupie was the last head of it
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before Ursula Van der Leyden.
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And Herman Van Rupie is the main heir
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of all the Nazi fortunes and owns Luxembourg.
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All the Nazis.
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Way richer than Elon Musk,
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but his wealth is so great.
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The real rich, you never hear about it.
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He's royalty, by the way.
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So you have royalty owning the EU,
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owning countries in the EU outright.
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He's the guardian of Luxembourg.
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Look it up.
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And then he hands the baton to her,
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all part of the same group, same families.
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Please, please, please remake and get,
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I like the work was incomplete the first time around.
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So there's, you know,
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Plenty to work on.
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Patch up some holes.
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Yeah, absolutely.
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So Alex is mad about something
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that Ursula Van der Leyden said recently.
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So he's ranting about his extensive knowledge
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about how the EU works,
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but unfortunately he's got really basic details wrong.
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Herman Van Rupie was the president of the European council
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from 2009 to 2014.
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He was succeeded in that post by Donald Tusk.
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Conversely, Van der Leyden is the president
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of the European commission,
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and she took over that position in 2019
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from Jean-Claude Juncker.
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Juncker is who Alex thinks he's talking about
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with all this stuff about Nazis and Luxembourg,
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but he's really just rattling off half-remembered details
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and making up a fun story to tell the audience.
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Juncker doesn't own Luxembourg,
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and I still think that Alex might think
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that's part of France.
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It is.
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He's not royalty, and his father was a tradesman
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who got drafted into the Nazi army in World War II.
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Herman Van Rupie is a Belgian politician
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and also does not appear to own Luxembourg.
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It's really key to understand here
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that Alex doesn't know what the difference is
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between the European council and the European commission.
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None of this matters.
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It's not real to him.
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This is all just, blah.
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And it doesn't matter how indirectly this all is still
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elected by the people in these countries.
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You know, like, a lot of it, there's,
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like, people on the European commission are selected
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by people who are in the European council,
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but the European council is the elected leaders
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of the countries that are in the EU,
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and the people who are up to be in the European commission
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are members of the European parliament,
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which are elected by the member states.
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Right, right, right.
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So it's-
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It's a representative representative government.
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It's indirect in a certain way,
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but it all still does lead back to, like, elections.
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Yeah.
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So I don't know, he, it just, it's needlessly complicated.
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I will admit that.
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Yeah.
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But Alex doesn't-
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No, that's not wrong.
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He's exploiting that in order to make a point
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that he doesn't even really understand.
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I think I would like to be king of Luxembourg.
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I think that's the way to go.
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Do it.
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I think lower class kinging is the way to do it.
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How dare you?
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No offense to the great people of Luxembourg.
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I'm just saying, I don't mean lower class.
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I mean like-
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We have some wonderful Luxembourgian listeners.
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In terms of like, you know,
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like say your upper class is a nuclear power.
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That's what I'm talking about.
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You know, you got your middle class countries.
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You got your, you got your Italy's, you know?
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You got your, you got your people who are pretty big players
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but they're not that huge, you know?
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This is a ridiculous paragraph.
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I want to be, I want to be Luxembourg's king.
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I want no pressure.
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I want everybody to be pretty chill.
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Because you know what, it's not my fault.
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We're part of the EU, man.
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Take it up with them.
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That may make it even better.
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That might be a top tier country then.
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You're trying to say the top tiers
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when you have nuclear weapons.
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Okay, now we're talking.
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Maybe not.
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Now we're talking.
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You have to shift the paradigm.
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You're right.
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You're right.
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In my world, that is the highest class of luxury
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that you can get.
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Is it low pressure?
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Small time kinging.
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So Ursula van der Leyden said some stuff
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about the Club of Rome and limits to growth
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and what have you.
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And so Alex gets into that.
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All the things I talk about are really going on
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in a breakaway civilization is when we live
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at one technological level, like Hunger Games,
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and then the elites have their high tech system
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that's broken away from us that we're kept out of.
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And they already have live extension technologies
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where people can easily live
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if they start the programs early to 150.
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Then they believe you can live that long,
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they'll have immortality.
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And they don't want the general public to have that.
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So that's what I show you in in-game.
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That's what they admitted in-game.
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Nope.
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And that's why you should watch in-game.
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Because this is what's happening.
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Do you care?
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Because if you can't care about yourself
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and the future of our species,
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then you are helpless in the face of the new world order.
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So here she is.
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Yeah, Roberta, thank you very much, dear Philippe.
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Honorable members, ladies and gentlemen.
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Indeed, if we look back, a little over 50 years ago,
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the Club of Rome and a group of MIT researchers
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published the Limits of Growth report.
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It mapped the interaction between population growth,
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the economy, and the environment.
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And it came 50 years ago to address the conclusion,
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stop economic and population growth
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or else our planet will not cope.
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And as you know, this report has sparked a long controversy.
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And we got the full clip, she goes into all of it,
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but there she is.
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Oh yes, it sparked a lot of,
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controversy about you cutting off all the resources.
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A long controversy.
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All right, I wanna play a clip of Tucker Carlson.
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I bet you do.
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Yeah. Good save though.
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Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
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That was a great save.
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Yeah. Yeah.
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So this clip of Anderleiden is from a conference
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called Beyond Growth from 2023.
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It cuts off kind of abruptly there
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because Alex probably didn't wanna play too much
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of her discussing how the Limits to Growth report
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was going to work.
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So Alex, thank you so much for joining us.
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Much of her discussing how the Limits to Growth report
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was an imperfect assessment
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that was of its time 50 years ago.
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He wants the audience to think that she's up there
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preaching this as an infallible religious text.
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And he accidentally played a little too much of it as is.
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He had to spin the part where she calls the report
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controversial, which when added to the fact
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that this is a year old clip,
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it leads me to believe that he didn't watch this
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before the show.
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I think he just saw this in a meme and is now covering it
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much like Indiana Jones had economist.
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Worked out the first time, you know,
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Indiana Jones hat gave you everything that you needed.
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Strangely enough, Ursula, not as willing to play ball.
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Yeah. Odd.
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A year ago.
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Yeah, she should really get her shit together.
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Or Alex should do some prep.
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One or the other.
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But- Try!
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When you play Tucker, you don't have to worry about that.
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You do not have to try.
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This is a nice little bit of a, just let it ride.
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Totally. Let it roll.
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No surprises here.
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Alex plays a clip of Tucker basically laying out
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how his politics are about keeping foreigners
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out of the country.
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Great.
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And now their end game is in operation mode.
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Here's Tucker Carlson.
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Why have all these Republicans publicly announced
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that they're voting for Kamala Harris?
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If you told me 10 years ago that Bill Kristol,
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who I spent five and a half years working for,
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Dick Cheney, who I knew, his creepy little daughter,
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who I knew very well, Mike Pence, all these people,
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they're all voting for Kamala Harris.
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The Bushes, all voting for Kamala Harris.
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George W. Bush, Jeb Bush, voting for Kamala Harris.
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How did that happen?
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Well, but they are, that's the problem.
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They just don't care about the country.
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They're mad that Trump might have won fewer war
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over the next four years.
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And that's like, it really, it's a clarifying moment.
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And I think this very often.
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I'm really grateful for how clear things are now.
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It's really obvious who's on whose side.
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And all I care about is preserving the country
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that I grew up in for my kids.
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That's not too much to ask.
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I don't want it to change radically.
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I don't want it to become much worse.
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Economic cycles come and go, but a culture, a people,
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that's permanent, that's permanent.
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I'd do 10 years of recession.
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I'd sell my house in exchange for not having a society
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completely transformed by foreigners.
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Okay, that's the truth.
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By not, I mean it.
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And there's no Republican who will say that.
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It's all about GDP and growth and whatever.
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It's like, what you're saying bears no resemblance
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to what I want, which is a stable, happy country.
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That's what I want, a stable, happy country.
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And I lived in one, I know it's possible.
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You destabilized it with your stupid wars.
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And last thing I'll say, now I'm totally out of control,
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but these people should all have to answer
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for their foreign policy of the last 20 years.
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I covered that stuff.
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I was on the first plane out of DC to the Middle East
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after September 11th.
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So I just, I'm not an expert, I never pretended to be one,
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but I've been to all their wars, I've watched all this stuff.
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And I don't understand how the people who planned all that
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are still making the decisions and no one's ever
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had to apologize.
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It can't really be much more explicit than that.
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It's pretty clear that the priority of Tucker Carlson's
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political ideology is maintaining the power balance
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where straight white Christian men are the ones
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in charge of society and everything else is just
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kind of downstream from there.
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Happy, stable society.
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Yeah, yeah.
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I do agree with him though that shit has gotten pretty clear
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and it's way easier to see who's on which side
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than it was in the past.
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And not for nothing, but what did Tucker
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do after he came back from that trip overseas after 9-11?
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Was he fundamentally moved to be anti-war after what he saw?
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Or did he forge a career as a bow tie-wearing, Iraq war
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promoting, Muslim bashing, cable news hack?
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Go fuck yourself.
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But here's the issue.
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Tucker's totally right that people like Dick Cheney
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shouldn't be listened to now and should
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be seen as historical monsters.
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He's totally right.
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And I understand why the audience would
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appreciate hearing that message.
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But Tucker should too.
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He's one of them.
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He's one of the people who shouldn't be taken seriously
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and should be cast aside to the waste bin of opinions
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because of how he comported himself during the Iraq war.
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Yep.
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This is a problem.
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Thoroughly.
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Yeah.
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But I noticed something.
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What's that?
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I found myself so much more interested when Tucker was
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on, like when a Tucker clip started playing.
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Interesting.
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I don't think his show where he's doing a monologue
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is interesting that much.
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Yeah.
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I've seen a couple of the, I've watched some of the shows.
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Sure.
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I don't find it electric.
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But him in front of a crowd where he's not getting much
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from them is fascinating.
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It is interesting, yeah.
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Because when he said, I don't want my society transformed
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by foreigners, he got some applause.
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But outside of that, he was not getting much
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from any of the stuff that he's saying.
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I find that interesting.
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No, because, but, I mean, I think
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he's tapping into the truth that is real,
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which is that as much as all of these arguments occur,
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they're occurring around what people desire as opposed
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to confronting it directly.
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Like, people like Tucker aren't even happy with the 50s.
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They're like, ah, women returned to the workplace
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during World War II.
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We got to go back further.
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You know, like these are 1880s rich white dudes
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who are still mad that slavery ended.
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And it only ended in name.
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Well, they'll get there eventually.
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Yeah, it's nuts.
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Underneath whatever the happy, stable society
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they're trying to signal towards, it goes further.
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But it harkens to the 50s and the image
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that you have in your head.
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Yeah.
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Other Republicans won't say that.
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Maybe that's the only thing Republicans
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are saying these days.
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Yeah.
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Tucker, the clip goes on.
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And I got like my breath taken away by this clip, honestly.
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OK.
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And I'm just like, this guy is fucked up.
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You never apologized.
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And my kids get to be in English class, they have to apologize.
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Because that's what, that's what,
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that's the difference between a human being and a sociopath.
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A human being grows by admitting fault.
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It's called repentance.
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And it's absolutely essential.
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There's no sin that I personally will not forgive.
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I mean it.
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And there's no sin that I would not personally forgive
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another person if that person was contrite
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and asked for forgiveness.
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Because that's what my religion demands.
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But if you're not even forced to apologize or express
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contrition, and instead you continue to rule my country,
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misrule it, we have a system that's so far out of whack
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that I'm surprised we haven't had some kind of revolution.
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Because it's crazy.
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I think we've had some kind.
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The Tea Party was one of the revolutions that occurred.
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Yeah, it's like the Tea Party January 6th,
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like the most normal people in the country.
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What was like, not one person on January 6th
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was carrying a firearm.
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What were they carrying?
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Pocket constitutions.
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Makes sense.
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So that clip makes me so damn sad.
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I kind of think that most of these people
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are full of shit most of the time.
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And a lot of the things they say can just
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be taken with a grain of salt. But this hits different.
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When Tucker says that the folks at January 6th
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were normal people because no one had guns
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and they had pocket constitutions,
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he's engaging in a rhetoric trick.
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And he knows what he's doing.
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It's a verbal distraction tactic,
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and it's a little bit boring.
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But I believe him when he says that his children need
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to apologize if they get bees in a class.
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His mind was looking for examples of sins
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because all sins can be forgiven.
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He can forgive John Bolton for doing the Iraq War
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if he apologizes sincerely, just like he can forgive
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his kids for getting a bee.
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This is heartbreaking because it really does reveal
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a bit of how Tucker thinks.
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His children's grades are a reflection of himself.
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If they don't get A's, they need to apologize
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to him for what they did.
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I know some people whose parents kind of had
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that perspective, and none of them are better off for it.
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But even beyond that twisted unwillingness
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to see your child as its own separate person,
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this comment reveals two things that I think are subtly
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in the background of what he's saying,
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and I find them awful.
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The first is that his children deserve A's.
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No matter what the assignment, no matter what the subject,
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they should have A's.
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A grade is purely a reflection of how much effort
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you put in, so anything less than the top score
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is a moral failing on your children's part.
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And I think that that's probably
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a dangerous perspective to have.
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Maybe a little bit.
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The second is that you have to conform.
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A grade isn't inherent.
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It's at the discretion of a teacher.
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Everyone knows that, and in order to always get A's,
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you need to have a really keen sense
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of what each teacher wants and what each class is about,
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and then do that.
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This view leaves no space for creativity and taking risks.
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Some of the most rewarding experiences from school
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in my life were projects that I did
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where I did not get good grades,
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but the act of doing the project taught me something new,
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and maybe expanded what I felt I could do,
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and sometimes it was a failure,
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but you learn through that.
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The way Tucker views his children's education
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is a method of control, and that's a real bummer.
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Everything about him is a strange new type of bummer,
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actually, and I find that to be just like,
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oh, you're on stage talking about how your kids
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need to apologize for getting B's.
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This is good.
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This is interesting content.
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Yeah, because he's deeply unsettling,
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and you thought it was because of all the things
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that he says and such, and you're like,
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that's deeply unsettling that you would be like,
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ah, I hate all foreigners.
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It is deeply unsettling who you are as a person without that.
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Yeah, yeah, I was watching your show,
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and you gave me strong vibes of someone
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who would make their kids apologize for getting a B,
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but now it turns out that's because you are that guy.
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That is, there's a part of me, genuinely,
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that did not believe his kids were real,
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because that seems like a Tucker Carlson thing to do.
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Maybe he has fake kids, crisis actors, if you will,
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because being one of his kids would be a crisis,
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but man, that story suggests
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that he really does hate children.
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I think it's such, I mean, granted,
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I don't have kids, you don't have kids,
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so far be it from us to talk about people's parenting,
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but I do know from being a kid
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that any time it felt like I existed
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as a projection of my parents, it was not good.
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Yeah, not good.
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Whenever it felt like I failed this class
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and I'm letting you down, that was bad.
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Yeah, I am not an extension of your balls, man.
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I'm a whole person, outside of you.
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It's a Tucker preaching that to an audience was, whew.
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Not good.
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So anyway, this goes on with him talking
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about the J-6 people and how they're heroes.
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They are.
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They're basically heroes.
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The overwhelming majority of them
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wanted to preserve the system, that's why they were mad.
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They weren't trying to overthrow it,
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they were trying to preserve it.
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And they watched our system
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in the process of being overthrown, which it has been.
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And they're the villains?
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I don't think you're the villain, actually.
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If you want to preserve the greatest country in the world
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in some recognizable way, you're not the bad guy.
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You're not the radical.
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I'm often called radical.
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I'm the least radical person you ever met.
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I'm like the most moderate person.
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I just want things to be, my parents got divorced.
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I just, I don't like change.
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I don't, I mean it.
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Put down the gun, man.
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I'm not a radical, just the opposite.
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Put it down.
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It was that way last year?
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Let's keep it that way, I kinda like that.
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I got the rest, I know the same thing.
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This blockbuster has to close.
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I'm not a revolutionary, I hate revolutionaries.
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Revolution never make things better.
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They always just wreck stuff, I hate wrecking stuff.
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Do you want the porn tapes?
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Go get them.
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It took you two minutes to wreck it.
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You're the villain.
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And so this grandmother who's like,
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no, the constitution says this.
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She's the radical?
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No, you're the radical, Kamala Harris.
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You hate the people of this country.
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Not getting a whole lot from the audience.
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And I feel like he thinks he should be getting more.
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And there's a, there is just a vibe, my man.
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There's something about that.
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That like, I'm not a radical, I'm not a radical.
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Look, my parents got divorced, I'm not mad about it.
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He's so strange.
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He's so strange because he vibrates back and forth
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from getting exactly what it is that drives these people.
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And then going right back to being like,
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you're an out of touch rich weirdo
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who has no idea what humanity is.
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Well, you know what?
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I think that's the irony of the marketing of his tour.
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Because the whole marketing was about like,
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the man can't censor what happens at a live show.
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Well, guess what?
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You can't either.
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Yeah.
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This energy is off-putting.
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It's not good.
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Yeah.
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I mean, yeah.
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People who are packaged by other people
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almost invariably get the idea
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that the package that other people see
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is also who they are.
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And so they no longer need the people who package that.
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They have grossly misunderstood how packaging works
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and how important it is to cut off
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all the shit that you are.
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And I think that like edited in studio
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or even in his like facsimile of a studio
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that looks like a folksy cabin,
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like that kind of presentation
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is so much the part that you're talking about
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where he gets exactly what they want.
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Yeah.
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And then the part where he has to exist on a stage
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where things aren't really going that great,
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he's not really that good at being on a stage
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in front of a large crowd.
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Yeah.
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I think that's the part that it's like,
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whew, I like that.
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I like that.
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It is crazy, you know, and I-
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I wish his tour would never end.
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We've seen this before.
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You know, you see a person who's famous
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or moderately famous for being comically funny
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in things that are not stand up.
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Then go like, well, I'm funny.
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And then try stand up and then realize the harsh horror
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of a live audience, you know?
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Yeah.
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This is somewhat similar.
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It feels like he thinks he should be crushing.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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I don't like change.
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Yeah, yeah.
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I don't like my parents' divorce.
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You're like me, my parents were divorced
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and had billions of dollars, right?
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We've all been there.
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I'm not mad.
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So I just keep having little indications
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that I'm like, I gotta fucking listen
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to more of these Tucker Live shows.
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I think maybe it's a goldmine.
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There's something weird.
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Yeah.
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So we get back to Alex and he's made a rant
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about how important he is.
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They are clips of my show in Hungary,
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in the Netherlands, in Russia.
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He was insulted one time because I didn't do my research.
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It just said, head of the Japanese Congress
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wants to come on your show.
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It's like 16 years ago.
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And I went, okay, and he came on
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and he wasn't mad about it, but later their staff told me,
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well, he didn't like the fact you didn't say
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he was the vice president.
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I wasn't really, I went with head of their legislature.
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I had the vice president of Japan on.
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He wanted to come on the show.
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Bolsonaro's on record saying I woke him up.
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His son is, I interviewed him.
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Wow, that's something to be proud of.
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Boy, the guy who burned down the rainforest.
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He's a fan of mine.
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He's cool, I woke him up.
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So there's no vice president in Japan.
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There's a deputy prime minister.
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Oh yeah.
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Alex has never had a deputy prime minister
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of Japan on his show, but I think he's talking
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about Yukahisa Fujita, who's a member of The Diet.
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In 2008, he started talking a bunch of 9-11 Truth stuff.
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So he made a tour on some shows
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and Alex was one of them.
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And now Alex has decided to remember it
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as I had the vice president of Japan on the show
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and I didn't even know it.
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I like that.
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That's so important.
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That's a great way to live.
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It gave Avengers is based on me.
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That's a great way to live.
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You know he's in a good mood
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whenever he's met the vice president of Japan.
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And they asked to be on his show.
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Yeah.
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I don't even, I don't know.
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I can recognize the idea behind
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why that would be an achievement
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or an accomplishment to crow about, right?
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Well, if it were true.
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But upon even further reflection, who cares?
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What?
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I think it's something nice in the resume if it's true.
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I suppose.
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I don't particularly care.
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Well, I'm starting to think about it.
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I'm like, if the deputy prime minister of Japan
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asked to be on our show,
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what would I feel about that?
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Yeah, that's about right.
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Shrug.
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No disrespect to Japan.
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No, no, no.
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It has nothing to do with Japan.
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It has nothing to do with anywhere.
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If Dan Quayle wanted to be on the show,
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I wouldn't be like,
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oh, holy shit, the vice president.
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I wouldn't care.
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Or even Tim Walz.
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No, I don't care.
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Your job is meaningless.
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So we have one last clip here of the seventh
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and Alex is talking about how the man
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wants to get him off air.
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Okay.
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They called me the mad prophet
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that's out in the wilderness
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that foretold and is the precursor
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to the big movement that comes.
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And I said that 25 years ago that God told me that.
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I've told you that a thousand times or more.
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So that's why they want me off air.
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That's why they want to silence me
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so they can then lie about me
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and build a straw man
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that's not Alex Jones
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to hurt the liberty movement and populism worldwide.
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They don't want me to be a hero to the people.
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Well, you're the real heroes.
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So all I ask is you understand how important we are.
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Cause I know I'm a regular guy.
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You're regular folks.
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I'm here.
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I don't put on airs, any of that.
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But the enemy sees me
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in my giant studio
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and a top strategist.
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On a mission from God.
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And we have.
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Again, it's not just me.
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It's the whole operation.
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So if I have the funds
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which I'm completely out of money personally
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to fight them,
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I can hold them up for a long time still.
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If I don't, they're going to win
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and just harass me into oblivion.
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I'll have to go to another country to broadcast.
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I don't want to do that.
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Plus I want the crew and the reports
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and the research.
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And they were so effective that way.
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So I'm humbly asking you
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and I want to thank everybody that did go donate.
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It touches my heart.
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I read all your comments.
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When you donate at
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realalexshows.com
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takes you to give send go.
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I don't know if Alex could be more clear
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that his plan is just to spend as much money as he can
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kicking the can down the road
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with frivolous legal challenges
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in order to delay the inevitable.
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If the audience keeps giving him money
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he can keep being an asshole.
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But if they don't pay for his lawyers
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Alex can't be an asshole through the courts anymore.
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He might also be indicating
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that if things go particularly bad
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he might intend to flee the country
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to try and avoid the bankruptcy
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which I don't think works and isn't cool
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from a legal perspective.
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Especially voicing this intent very clearly.
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I mean, again, threats are bad.
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Threats are record, recorded.
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You don't want to surprise people.
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Out of the blue, he's gone.
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That's the way you do it.
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Also I'm a little offended at the globalist's plan here.
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Like the whole goal is supposed to be
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creating a straw man version of Alex
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which he should think we've been doing for eight years.
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He knows we exist.
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We should be enemy number one.
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We're creating the straw man.
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You bet.
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Come on, dick.
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We've made the best wicker man
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to burn a man alive in there's ever been.
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Anyway, we'll get to the eighth
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and this weather weapons idea that Alex had.
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The seed has germinated.
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Like a storm.
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Yes, it has progressed to category something.
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And Alex has decided that he's gonna do
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a big presentation about it today.
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All right.
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All right, I did a lot of research
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and a lot of preparation in the last 30 years
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for what I'm gonna be covering today.
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And I've sent the crew over 20 clips
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and I've got over a hundred documents right here.
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And coming up at the bottom of the hour,
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I'm gonna do a big presentation for everybody
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on what's really going on
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with weather weapons.
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Wow, very exciting.
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We're gonna get another big presentation
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where he fails to prove that weather weapons are real.
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I would like to know what's going on
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with weather weapons. He's done this before.
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No, but this time it's gonna be right.
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There's patents about how you make hurricanes.
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Right, and teleportation devices and immortal blood.
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Man, if there were teleportation devices,
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shit would get wild fast.
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Yeah, but there's a patent for one.
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Yeah, whatever happened to that guy?
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He didn't build a teleporter.
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Or he did, he disappeared.
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That is the problem with teleporters.
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Probably the last use is the first use.
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Yeah, you have to keep rediscovering it.
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Yep, yep.
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So Alex has decided, fuck it, there's no consequences.
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I'm just gonna make the most sensational headlines possible
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about Kamala Harris causing all these hurricanes.
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That's fair.
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We have the bold headlines that I put up on X
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that the Kamala Harris or the Biden-Harris administration
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is in control of this hurricane.
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Now, how do I know that?
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How do you know that?
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Well, if you've got a local fire department
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and there's say a 10 story building on fire
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and the fire department just decides to not respond,
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they made the decision to let it burn
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and they control the situation by deciding to let it burn.
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I am unconvinced.
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So they have the power certified easily
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with just five or six big aircraft,
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and that's the old technology,
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not the lasers that are all certified
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and the Doppler radar they also have on ships
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and large oil drilling platforms that they've launched.
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They could totally just make this thing stop
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and dump the water in the ocean.
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And on 9-11, the hurricane was gonna hit,
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remember in 2001, but that B-roll,
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there's never something like it.
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It just turned away from the coast and went away
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because that was gonna get in the way
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of some of the stuff the deep state was up to.
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We've got a big broadcast for you today.
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Very excited about this broadcast.
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So Alex is talking about there at the end, Hurricane Aaron,
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which threatened Bermuda and made its way
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through the Atlantic before dissipating.
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In the process, if you look at the trail of the storm,
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it really does look like it's making its way
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towards the East Coast of the United States
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and then it turns away.
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Devoid of context, it might look like
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this is a crazy thing to happen
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and it's a clear signal of manipulation,
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but it turns out that's common.
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If you see this storm path and someone tells you
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that it was controlled by the globalists,
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you can kind of see what they mean.
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There's a turn the storm seems to make,
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so it's easy to write that story
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and apply it to what you're looking at.
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And then there's the whole idea
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of it getting in the way of 9-11,
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so now you have a motive
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and you're cooking with conspiracy gas.
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This all works.
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The problem is that if you look at a bunch of hurricane
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paths, you'll see that they don't always go
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in a predictable path and they turn pretty regularly.
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When I was a kid, we lived in Hawaii
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and Hurricane Iniki hit in 92.
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If you look at the path that storm took,
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it looks like the capital L, the letter L,
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but being written from the bottom.
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Like it legit looks like it made a 90 degree turn.
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Nice.
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We lived on Oahu and we thought we were gonna get hit
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based on the projections,
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but it ended up missing us and hitting Kauai.
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So maybe hurricanes are somewhat erratic by nature.
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Or maybe the globalists knew that one day
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I would start a podcast attacking Alex Jones
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so they spared my family from the hurricane
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by diverting it at the last second.
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One of those two things is true, maybe.
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And oh, it happened on September 11th, 1992.
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So maybe it is proof that it's the latter.
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Did it?
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Yep.
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No shit.
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Yeah.
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Oh, that's a coincidence.
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It's really annoying.
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God damn it.
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There are so many coincidences
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that are just so fucking annoying.
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Yeah.
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September 11th, 1992.
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It doesn't mean anything.
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The globalists saved me from a hurricane
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in order to create this podcast.
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Days aren't real.
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The calendar's made up.
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It's not real.
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We're on a rock hurtling through space around
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a burning ball of gas.
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You make a compelling argument,
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but maybe when I was eight,
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the globalists knew my future.
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God damn it.
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Yeah.
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What if they did?
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Get me a chicken fried steak.
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I gotta get to the bottom of this.
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Somebody moved that hurricane slightly.
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Not let's stop it, not let's do anything like this.
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No, no, no, no.
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That's a lot of damage still.
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It's gotta be, no, no, no,
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cause it's gotta be plausible.
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They can't just be making hurricanes dissipate.
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But I mean, if you look at that path,
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it looks very suspicious.
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It looks a lot like a capital L.
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And L is in the middle of somebody else's name.
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And 11.
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Oh, God damn it.
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I hate America.
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So many connections.
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So Alex talks here about,
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he's gonna do this coverage.
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It's gonna be just conclusive.
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Okay.
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At the bottom of the hour,
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33 after in 23 minutes,
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we come out of that break, I am going to judiciously,
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but as quickly as I can,
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lay out what's really happening
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with the last two hurricanes.
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Helen and, Helena and Milton.
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Now I wanna explain something.
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We can put up the live show feed from X if we can,
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cause I wrote that headline right before I went live.
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I wanna show it to people.
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And I make the point that
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the government is in control of these hurricanes.
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I'm gonna explain in a moment.
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We exclusively lay out the smoking gun,
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government documents proving,
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feds have had the power to completely control hurricanes
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since 1967.
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So Alex says 1967,
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because he's referencing project Popeye,
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which was a Vietnam war era plan
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to create more rain over the country
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to flood roads the enemy would need to get around.
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Maybe it created more rain,
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but you'd have a tough time proving the extent
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to what it did.
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That's a real difficult question to answer.
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Cloud seeding is a real technology that exists,
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but there's no evidence of the capabilities
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that Alex is describing and is just annoying.
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You know what?
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This would be so exciting if he hadn't done
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this exact same thing like four times.
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Yeah.
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I'm gonna sit down,
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I'm really gonna do it this,
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I'm gonna prove everything.
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Here's the problem with weather weapons.
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What is one,
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how big are they?
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Huge.
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Who has them?
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Everyone, globalists.
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Okay, so how many?
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So many.
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Where?
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All over the place.
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And if that's the case,
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when are they or aren't they using them?
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They always are and always aren't.
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Exactly, I can't handle that.
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I can't handle,
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because then it's like,
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oh, well, this is just a light dusting.
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Did they do that to convince me
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that they don't always control the weather?
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That's what I'm supposed to believe?
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5G towers are being used for that right now
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until that becomes boring.
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And then it'll be 6G towers.
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Oh, well, that'll be really good.
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That'll be like a little bit,
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it'll be like a tighter rain.
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Is that what we want?
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What's hail?
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Is hail them fucking up?
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Hail is, you know,
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sometimes you'll be like,
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I feel like a real,
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just a different kind of dinner.
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Yeah.
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You know, like.
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No, I get you, I get you.
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We've had.
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Hail is ironically a Hail Mary.
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Yeah.
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It's just kind of a,
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throw some variety at it.
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I haven't had Italian in a long time.
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We go out for dinner.
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Exactly.
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I get it, I get it.
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I'm just saying there's a lot of.
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Get a steak.
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There's a lot of car damage
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that doesn't need to be done.
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But actually that's probably
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because the insurance companies
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are in on it.
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Ooh, that's it.
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Yeah.
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It fixes.
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Every time it hails,
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it's because of a bad breakup.
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Oh, it could be,
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that makes sense.
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Yeah.
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Oh, but it is.
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It does make sense.
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It is suggested at some point
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that it has to do with like
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construction companies
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and insurance companies.
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Sure, sure, fine.
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They don't want you to stop
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the bad weather.
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Fine.
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Okay.
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Right, right.
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So now the insurance companies
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know about weather weapons
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and they have to negotiate on a regular.
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Do you know what's crazy?
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That's part of lobbying.
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Do you know what's crazy about this?
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Is that this system becomes so complex
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that it is essentially as unpredictable
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and ridiculous as regular ass weather.
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You bet.
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So there is no difference.
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Nope.
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But if this system is true.
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Okay.
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What Alex is saying is true.
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All right.
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Then you have an affirmative responsibility
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to always stop weather.
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Yeah.
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Right?
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All weather.
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Unless it's not the weather you stop.
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That's the argument Alex is kind of
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making.
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Oh, okay.
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All right.
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So the fire department has a say
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eight story building in downtown
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and it's on fire.
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And they can put it out with six, seven engines.
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But they decide to not go put it out.
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You would say the fire department
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helped burn that building down.
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The fire department made the decision
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to not control it.
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So that was a form of control in not controlling it.
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It's the same thing.
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If you leave your one year old baby
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in the backyard by the pool
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and you go inside to take a nap,
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there's a good chance your kid's gonna drown.
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You've killed your kid.
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So here's the question I would ask.
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Alex, are you a baby?
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Are the government, is that your parents?
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Good question.
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Is that really the way you wanna present yourself here?
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Cause it seems weak.
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So overall, this is just a stupid position for Alex to have.
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He's a small government states rights kind of guy,
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but also he thinks that the federal government
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has an affirmative responsibility to control the weather.
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He shouldn't believe that.
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This also introduces an unsolvable problem,
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which is how much should the government control the weather?
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If everything Alex is saying is true,
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then every adverse weather event is the government's fault
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because they could have done something about it.
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So maybe you wanna get rid of hurricanes and tornadoes
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cause they're really destructive.
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But what about a simple thunderstorm?
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Do they have to go?
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Like I enjoy a nice thunderstorm,
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but about 20 people die from getting struck
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by lightning every year.
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The government is to blame for these deaths
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cause they could have stopped the lightning.
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Totally.
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Every death from heat or cold is the government's fault.
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Every flood only happened
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because they didn't care enough to stop it.
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What's going on here is that Alex is desperate for attention
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and he wants to get it by exploiting the tragedy
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of these recent hurricanes.
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He knows fully well that he can't prove
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anyone made these hurricanes,
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but he also knows that no one can prove
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that Harris didn't stop them.
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It's usually almost impossible to prove a negative.
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So Alex is positioning himself in such a way
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that he can profit off sensationalism about the hurricanes
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and force people responding to him to take on a position
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that they can't demonstrably prove,
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which is that Harris didn't stop these hurricanes from hitting.
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This is all a fucking stupid game to him.
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Yeah. Here's what you do.
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All right.
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Cause I'm, you know what?
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It's tougher whenever you make it something that is like
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a big or something that's abstract.
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If the government controls the weather,
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then any bet you have made on the Super Bowl
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no longer counts.
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You know what I'm saying?
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Because what about a Super Bowl where it was snowy
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and then Tom Brady won or whatever because it was snowy.
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That's the government's fault.
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It is the government's fault.
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That means that Tom Brady sucks at football.
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But how much precision can they use?
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That's another question.
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Like, can they cause a gust of wind
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to knock a field goal out?
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That's such a great point.
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Yeah. Cause then everything is...
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Like we're fucked.
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Yeah.
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If the government controls the weather,
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that actually relaxes me so much
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because who fucking cares?
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They're acting wild.
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Right.
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I think that like the ultimate end conclusion
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of believing that Alex is right about any of this stuff
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is you must go mad.
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Yeah.
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Well, like, but it gets back to that complication aspect
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of like, if it is as complicated and impossible to predict
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as naturally occurring weather,
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then functionally I don't think there's any difference
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to me.
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Like going throughout the day,
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whether or not it is the natural magnetic sphere
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of blah, blah, blah, making blah, blah, blah happen.
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Or if it's a bunch of dudes in a room like,
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no, I want to go golfing.
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I don't see much difference to me.
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Well, I guess it's if you can't,
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I guess it's the difference is your ability to personify
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who's to blame.
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Right.
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And so I guess you can do that.
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That's a little different.
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I'm telling you, we go back to Zeus.
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Just call it Zeus's fault.
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Might as well.
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Yeah.
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So Alex is a little bit,
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I think there's a vibe of maybe a slight defensiveness
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about how grossly sensationalized his headline is.
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Could be a little bit.
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Kamala controls the weather,
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might be a little sensational.
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Might be a little click baiting.
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Might be a little on the high side.
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Yeah.
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It might be looking a lot like an asshole.
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But so he's a bit defensive.
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Okay.
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So they've got the capacity.
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They've done it before.
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They're obsessed with it.
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I'm going to show you the CIA director
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admitting it all on C-SPAN.
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And then you're going to read articles
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everywhere today and tomorrow.
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Jones blames the hurricanes on the Biden-Harris administration
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and I mean, they're in control.
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They're not blocking it.
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They could have, according to Ben Livingston,
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with old technology, 1960s technology,
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five big aircraft and they could go to the biggest hurricane
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and he's flown into typhoons, by the way.
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Those are even faster.
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They spin the other direction of the Pacific.
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Idiot.
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He, in its own record, it's been declassified,
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said with five aircraft,
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he could kill any hurricane and he did over and over again.
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And that was the early step of the 40s, 50s, and 60s.
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Then they got the project,
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he talks about it all an hour long interview with me,
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several of them,
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to steer them.
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And they had their math, they had their meteorologists,
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they had their info and very quickly,
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they were like, this is easy.
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We can speed them up, we can slow them down,
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we can turn them, we can kill them and we can make them.
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We can make them.
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Now you're going to see him say all that.
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You understand?
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You understand?
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I feel like we're not going to see him say all that.
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Not all that.
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So the CIA director clip Alex is talking about
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is a clip of John Brennan that he lies about all the time,
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which will be a cornerstone of this big breakdown,
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but also it brings up that interview with Ben Livingston.
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Interestingly, if you go back and you look at Alex's
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early interviews with this guy, Ben Livingston,
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they start in 2005, right after Katrina.
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That makes sense from Alex's perspective.
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That would be about when you'd really want to ramp up
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the weather control storylines and all that.
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But if you go back to those interviews,
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you also learn that Ben is a nickname that Livingston had
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and his real name is Waylon Livingston.
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This becomes relevant when you learn that he had a
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self-published sci-fi book in December, 2004
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called Dr. Lively's Ultimatum,
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Cloud Seeding Stops Destruction
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from Drought and Asteroid Fallout.
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Weirdly, that book is about a quote,
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decorated weather controller during the Vietnam War,
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who's called upon by the president to end a drought
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with some rain, which is actually cover for him
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to destroy an asteroid that's going to hit the earth.
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So strange that this is absent from the resume
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that Alex always gives him, the fact that he wrote
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a sci-fi novel and then kind of started being presented
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as the protagonist of it on Alex's show.
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That's one way to do it.
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I do believe that Livingston was in the Navy
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and he had a degree in weather science,
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but I also have reason to suspect that Alex might be doing
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a little bit of overselling this source for clear reasons.
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I do like the image of a guy who's like,
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ah, give me five planes and I'll kill that hurricane.
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Like this is Jaws.
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Yeah, and leave the bottle, okay.
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Also, according to his obituary, Waylon was a Master Mason,
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which should be a problem for Alex,
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but apparently it's not.
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So he has on his desk, so many stackies.
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So many stacks.
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So much evidence.
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And you might want to share those with people
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so they can actually tune in.
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And once we archive this from the live show,
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once we cut it out and post it, I suggest you share it
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because you see all this overhead shot, please.
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You see all these stacks right here?
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These are UN documents, US government documents,
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congressional reports.
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This is all admitted right here, stack after stack,
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after stack.
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And you can go search anything you see here
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and you can go read the reports
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on the US government's own websites, on the UN's website,
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and you can look at it with your own eyeballs.
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Look, I have so many props to show you.
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This is going to be very exciting.
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And again, I love it when Alex sets out to prove something.
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You know, I love that.
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Because then it's like, hey, he's trying.
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This is going to be exciting.
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We're going to get some stuff.
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But he's already done this exact dance with weather weapons.
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Like I've seen this after school special before or whatever.
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It's just, it's flat.
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You appreciate the times that he tries
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to roll a ball up a hill,
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but we have tried this hill so many times.
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And I can tell he's not even really trying this time.
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No, he's trying to fucking throw it up the hill.
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You can't throw a ball up the hill.
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Yeah.
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You got to roll it.
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Uninspired.
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Not good.
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So he's going to get to this.
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He's going to get to his weather shit.
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Sure.
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But first, I mean, Elon Musk, what's he been up to?
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He's talking to Tucker.
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They had an interview.
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Jesus Christ.
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So Alex plays a little bit of that.
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And then there's a startling revelation at the end of this.
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Okay.
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First is you say we need more people
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and not commit civilizational suicide.
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It does seem like the US government,
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if you take three steps back,
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is pretty committed to making fewer Americans.
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Yeah.
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A lot of anti-fertility propaganda.
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A lot.
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Actually, that seems like their main sort of
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domestic social policy is given to you not to have kids.
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What is that?
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So much.
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I mean, that's certainly part of civilizational suicide.
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The environmental movement in the extreme
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is fundamentally misanthropic and anti-human.
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Yes.
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They start seeing humans as a plague,
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a blight on the surface of the earth.
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That if that earth would be this paradise
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if only the humans weren't here.
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And some people actually say this explicitly.
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There's the extinctionist society that is literally,
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this guy who's the head of the extinctionist society
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who's on the front page of the New York Times
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quoted as saying there are eight billion people
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in the world, it would be better if there were none.
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So there's some people who actually say that explicitly,
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which isn't completely insane.
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He's advocating a holocaust war of humanity.
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To utter madness, he should be condemned
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for such a statement, but he wasn't for some reason.
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Now, most people on the sort of
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environmental movement have that implicitly.
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They don't realize that they have that
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as their own.
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All right, so if you want to stop the global agenda,
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you have to understand this.
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He goes on for like 10 minutes.
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We're gonna air it later after I hit
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the weaponization of the weather,
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the fact they could kill the hurricanes.
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Instead, they're obviously turbocharging them.
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And we have the flights, we have the evidence,
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we know what's going on.
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We'll break it down next segment.
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But that's why this broadcast is so important.
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That's why you're so important.
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We're changing the world together.
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And we make it easier for you to support us
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at this critical time.
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Oh my God.
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Go to thealexjonescore.com and this,
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I'm more excited about this product
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than anything we put out in 10 years,
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except X2 and X3.
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Just the iodine in this is super bioavailable
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and has all these other key trace elements
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and things in it that is amazing.
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CMOS, this particular type, is known to be incredible.
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Alex is selling CMOS.
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CMOS.
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CMOS.
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CMOS.
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Yep.
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Not as exciting as Deep Earth Crystals,
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because that's where the old iodine kind of-
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Well, everybody likes to hear Deep Earth Crystals.
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Yeah.
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You're like, you imagine a whole digging crew
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and a miner with a sooty face pulling out the biggest,
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well, this is the deepest earth crystal
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I've ever fucking found.
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Moss?
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CMOS is a guy with a pool scraper
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like grabbing up some shit, like,
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oh, this is probably healthy.
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This is no good.
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Oh my God.
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Unexciting.
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But I like, there's something about it that I like.
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Alex is really trying to get people pumped up about Moss.
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I mean, it's a humble, it's a humble product.
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I appreciate a good Moss sales pitch.
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Yep.
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So that's where we're at.
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We're excited about Moss.
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Oh man.
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So also I think that if Tucker is really super concerned
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about making more Americans, you know,
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he should be into paths to citizenship, right?
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I mean.
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That would increase the number of Americans.
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You know, it is fascinating to me that on one episode,
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we can have the people who are from America
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first are fucking monsters.
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And then the, no one else should ever come to America
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in the same, it's kind of amazing.
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Yeah.
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It's kind of amazing.
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Yep.
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I think Musk is unlistenable.
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I really am disgusted with us.
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And it is one of the things where it is like,
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Elon Musk's popularity can only be explained by evolution.
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We are still apes.
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Like that is what I have to believe
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because the only thing that makes sense.
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Because he has the most resources.
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It has to be something like purely instinctual.
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Yeah.
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Cause there's no rational reason
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to not throw that man into the earth.
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The other thing I think about it is like,
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maybe it's a prank.
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You know?
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Is everybody gaslighting the two of us specifically?
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Maybe not the two of us,
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but I think that there is a fair amount of his fandom
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that is like, he really pisses people off.
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And that's funny.
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I guess, man, he's just,
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can't you pick anybody else?
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Anybody but this guy.
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Just this fucking guy is, it feels like-
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He's hard to listen to.
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No, it feels like he was specifically engineered in a lab
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to make me personally furious about all things.
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Elon Musk was created in a lab to piss you off.
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And that hurricane in Hawaii was taken off course to-
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That would make as much sense as anything else
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about him being extremely rich and popular.
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Crazy.
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So Alex begins his lecture about weather weapons.
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And I was like, all right, I'll open my heart.
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Now I'm gonna state a fact.
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Oh God.
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And then I'm gonna lay it out.
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The US government secretly by 65 had certified
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they had total control of hurricanes and typhoons.
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By 67, the Pentagon confirmed it and certified it.
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And in 69, the program was taken from Ben Livingston,
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who we're gonna show you clips of,
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that I interviewed first.
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He's been on Fox News, you name it.
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Running weather operations in World War II at the end,
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right through Vietnam to be a consultant
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into his nineties for the Pentagon.
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So this isn't true, but this is apparently the premise
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for this entire argument, which is a justification
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for Alex posting sensationalist headlines,
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accusing Harris of not stopping these hurricanes.
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The government didn't certify that they can control
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hurricanes and typhoons in the sixties.
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To the extent that there's anything proven,
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it's that they may be able to cause
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a little extra precipitation,
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but even nailing down the specific precise details on that
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is pretty difficult.
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So I like this flourish.
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I'm gonna state effect, and then I'm going to defend it.
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That's what we're gonna do.
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Not a good start.
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Nah, not really.
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If, okay, if we're so technologically advanced
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that we're controlling the weather in the mid sixties
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with punch card computers, why is it that AI
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is only really able to kind of handle
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customer service programs?
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Also, I mean, that's a great question,
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but also this idea that everything that we have
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is 10 years behind whatever the globalists really have.
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Why does it always have to be that way?
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Like at a certain point, they're gonna have to make
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a breakthrough that cannot be contained, right?
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And so the fact that it hasn't happened yet
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means it's 10 years away, right?
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Right?
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Like the punch card computers,
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they weren't using that then.
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No, because they were, oh God.
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That's what they told us they were using.
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We were using punch card computers.
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I am so tired, I am so tired.
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So a lot of this hinges on Ben Livingston,
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his interviews that Alex did.
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Sci-fi author, as is most of ourselves.
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But also a weather scientist.
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You're sure, sure?
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That appears to be a real piece of his backstory.
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I don't think that's fake.
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I think he was an old fucking man who Alex talked to
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and now Alex has built a myth off of,
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who also wrote a sci-fi book about the stuff that Alex is.
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It helps.
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So maybe they had some conversations
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and he discussed like his sci-fi books
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and Alex has blended that into.
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Could be.
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I think that's probably the most likely explanation.
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What's the book you're working on?
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Oh, it's a sci-fi book.
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Do you mean a truth book
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that they won't allow you to say is the truth?
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Most likely.
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Yeah.
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So Alex also just lies about his interaction with him.
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Sure.
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We posted it before, we're gonna repost it to X today.
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It's called Info Wars Weather Wars Report.
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It's an hour long documentary with Livingston.
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Also interviewed him for two hours on radio.
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We're gonna dig that out and repost it
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to X.
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I just thought of that.
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One week after he went back to Lubbock
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from flying here with his wife,
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to be interviewed by me,
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I called him and he said,
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I can't talk to you,
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got a visit from high up US government.
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And even though it's classified,
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they told me not to talk to you or anybody else anymore.
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He did a Fox interview before he got that visit.
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So I interviewed him first,
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Fox interviewed him a few days later,
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and then never talked to again.
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And he's in the documents
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that were declassified as the commander of it.
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So the first time Alex interviewed Livingston
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was on October 13th, 2005.
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So if I understand this timeline,
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a week after that,
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he's supposed to have gotten threatened
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and never did interviews again.
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Except that he was a guest on Coast to Coast AM
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on October 24th, 2005.
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And then Alex had him back in the studio
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on January 18th, 2006.
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And again on January 26th, 2006.
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What's going on here is that Ben Livingston
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isn't as good a source of information as he is a legend.
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Alex doesn't remember what Livingston said
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or how any of this went,
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but he's made the interview
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an important piece of InfoWars lore
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and he's strategically built it up to serve that purpose.
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Pretending that he got threatened a week
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after coming on the show
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makes it sound like the information was super dangerous
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and Alex got a scoop.
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The illusion is threatened by the reality
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that he came back on the show three months later twice
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and was on Coast to Coast AM,
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so that history is rewritten.
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Figures in this world of media
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are really more useful as ideas than as actual people.
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Ben Livingston isn't a source,
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he's a prop that Alex can use however he wants
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to build narratives.
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And Alex should really reflect on how much better
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his story would sound if Ben died in 2005.
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Then he should start reflecting a little on
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how he's being used as a prop
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by all of the ascendant figures in the new shithead media
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and maybe his relationship is,
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his usefulness is as much as Ben Livingston was in 2005.
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Yep, it's like a packaging issue.
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It's the same thing.
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Like I bet Livingston at the time was like,
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man, people think I'm so great.
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It's probably because of my weather science
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and my science fiction novel.
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And it's like, no, you're packaged on the right place
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and sold to the right people.
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I think the fact that he didn't continue
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going on Alex's show might indicate on some level
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like an awareness that this isn't what I want.
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Yeah.
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Because that to me has some kind of,
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there is a piece of this that I can believe
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he is a well-meaning person.
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Sure.
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Who Alex has distorted all of this shit.
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Sure.
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That might not be true.
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I don't know.
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I don't know this guy.
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But that's why it's way better that he's dead
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because that uncertainty keeps,
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is like a shield for Alex.
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Yeah, it's like a shield for Alex.
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Like, ah, you don't know.
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Well, technically I don't.
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So Alex lies some more about him.
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Sure.
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He's the first person to ever fly into a typhoon in 1945.
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So that's not true.
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Major Joe Duckworth is the first person
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known to have flown into a typhoon on July 27th, 1943.
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According to military lore,
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it happened because of a drunk dare.
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So Alex has applied this to the wrong person.
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Well, you know, that's,
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I won't say that's not how a lot of great things happen.
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Yeah.
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So Alex talks a bit more
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about how the Department of Energy,
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they are the ones who control the weather.
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Sure.
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And then I think you'll see why I chose this clip.
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Okay.
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I think you'll get a real kick out of this.
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Okay.
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It is a fact that US government can create hurricanes,
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kill hurricanes, make them bigger, make them smaller,
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make them turn left, make them turn right, make them stop,
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make them, they can control them like a joystick.
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And we have the confirmed flights
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by the Department of Energy who's over this.
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NOAA just monitors the weather.
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Department of Energy with the Pentagon runs the program.
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I'll show you all the documents.
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Since the 40s.
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And they're in control.
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Whether they're messing with it or not, they can kill it.
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And the power to kill something is the power to control it.
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All right.
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All right, dude.
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I gotcha.
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I gotcha.
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The spice.
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All right.
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All right.
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Jesus Christ, he really has become the Quiz-Outs Hotter.
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You've got to imagine Chase sitting at the soundboard
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being like, I see what you did there.
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I'm excited about this.
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Hey, listen, it's good that you've also
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watched the movies now.
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It's good that you're in a situation where you're like,
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oh, I know what you're doing there.
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I can catch this little subtle.
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I can grok to your vibe.
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So at this point, I'm listening to this and I'm like,
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all right, you're doing your big piece
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of I'm going to prove these hurricanes are controlled
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and Kamala Harris is to blame for this.
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But then he kind of punts.
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And today I'm covering it.
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But tonight or so, by tomorrow, I'm
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going to get in the studio, the little studio,
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because it'll take two hours.
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And I'm going to show you 15 plus clips I've got.
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I'm going to make a statement, show you the document,
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show you the news, and then again.
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So again, you see my headlines.
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I'm going to be attacked for that.
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Jones says government in control of it.
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They are.
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Fuck you.
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Fuck you, dude.
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You start the show by being like,
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I'm going to do my big presentation in half an hour.
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Your time runs out.
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You realize like, I got nothing.
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I'm not going to be able to compellingly make this argument.
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I'll do it tonight.
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This sucks.
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I like a good.
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This guy's an asshole.
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This goes back to my threats issue.
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If you're changing the deadline more than once,
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it's not getting done.
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It's just not getting done.
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You're telling me that you're not going to do it.
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But it's also weird when you've already done it.
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Yeah.
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Like, why don't you just play the last time you did this?
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Well, that's not going to move the needle.
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I guess.
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I guess.
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So he starts dropping some evidence.
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But again, just keep in mind, this
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isn't the real presentation.
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This isn't the good shit.
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Do that tomorrow or tonight.
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I'll have it done by tomorrow, at least.
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There's a preemptive excuse for why this isn't compelling.
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Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
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The first thing I want to play, and you
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ought to go to the C-SPAN archives
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and watch the whole thing.
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This is 1995, Robert Fletcher, who
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did a great job coalescing the public documents then
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and warning the public and state legislatures.
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And they were demonizing him in Congress.
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They were speechless when he brought up the US Senate report
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that I have a copy of here from decades before.
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Also have the head of the Defense Department,
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William Cohen, in 1997, in a briefing
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at the Pentagon that was public, picked up by AP and Reuters,
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admitting the US government controls the weather
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and has weather weapons and earthquake weapons.
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You want to see that?
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We got that.
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Got too much evidence.
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Too much?
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Too much evidence?
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That's the wrong amount of evidence to have.
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It is.
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So we've talked about that William Cohen clip a bunch.
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It was an instance where he speculated
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about future technologies the terrorists might try to explore.
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He didn't say the US had weather or earthquake weapons.
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That's entirely made up on Alex's part.
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This is a bad start.
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Yeah.
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Also, Robert Fletcher, he was not like a scientist
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or like a weather guy.
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He was a leader of the militia of Montana.
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That's a great background to know
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what weather weapons are like.
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Yeah, he testified in Congress in 1995
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and was mostly talking about how the government did
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the Oklahoma City bombing.
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And then he got a little bit into weather weapons
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on the side.
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But Alex is saying that he produced this Senate report
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and everybody was just awed, just dumbfounded by this.
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So keep that in mind.
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You know, that's an interesting thing
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about the records in Congress.
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It should be noted, if you're in the records in Congress,
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that is not necessarily a good thing.
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And it doesn't necessarily mean that what the thing you said
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is true.
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Yeah.
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You can say anything in there and a lot of them
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will listen to you.
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And a lot of times, people just read things into the record
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that are dubious.
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Wild.
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So he brought out this report, this militia guy, right?
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Everyone was just speechless.
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Speechless.
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So here's Alex playing that.
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Well, I mean, I imagine they could be speechless.
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But here's Alex playing that clip.
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Let's see if it matches up.
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All right, here is Robert Fletcher in front of Congress.
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Another question on the interview with the Los Angeles
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Times on April 21st.
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You said that the, you told the Associated Press
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that the American government has created
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weather tampering techniques so that the New World Order
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will be able to starve millions of Americans
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and to control the rest.
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Would you explain what you were trying to say?
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Well, what I was trying to say is exactly what I said.
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There is weather control techniques.
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We have a complete package on that, which I did not bring.
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But I certainly will see to it that it
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is brought in for the record.
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Speechless by him not having the evidence.
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He doesn't produce.
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It seems like Alex kind of misrepresented
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what this clip was going to be.
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I love that we are now in a second dimension of,
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I will have this for you by tomorrow.
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I like that in our story that we will have finished by tomorrow.
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We also have a character in 95 totally
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have that for you by tomorrow.
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I am going to get the information necessary
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by tomorrow.
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But if you want to lose your mind even more, Alex is,
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like he set this up as he pulls out the Senate report.
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And now he's played this clip and he
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has to spin why he didn't bring out the Senate report.
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And so he decides like, yeah, he did it later.
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They did it later.
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Thank you, Mr. Fletcher.
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Thank you, Mr. Chairman.
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And of course, he then delivered to them,
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as he did on my show back then in the studio
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and he did the legislatures.
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Huge binders with all the documents.
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That's how I learned about all this
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when I was first getting on air in 1994, 95.
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Fletcher came to town, came on my Access TV show,
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came on my local radio show, and he gave me
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huge binders that are somewhere.
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But I've got documents now because the internet
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didn't have all these on it.
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Then he got it from the US archives.
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He spent a year in DC digging them all out.
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So we stand on his shoulders.
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I had a strong few years ago.
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That's still a lie.
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I've got to get him on.
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He actually worked for the CIA on record.
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What?
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Wait, hold on.
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What?
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Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait.
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He was CIA?
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He was full on CIA?
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So he was CIA, and then he became a leader of a militia.
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How can you trust a CIA guy who's running a militia?
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Shouldn't this be very suspicious?
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Oh my god.
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But he's the guy who hipped you into the weather weapons.
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It is like intergenerational procrastination.
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It's like if your dad didn't turn in an assignment,
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and then the teacher was like, hey,
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is your dad ever going to turn that in?
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Oh, yeah.
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No, I'll get it for you by tomorrow.
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Swear to god.
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This is the one case where not completing your assignment,
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you should apologize for.
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You should really apologize for not getting it.
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Tucker's kids are cool.
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They're fine.
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They don't need to apologize for getting a B.
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We don't have anything to give you a B for.
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We need a thing.
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I just, I think Alex, I don't know
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if he knows what he's saying.
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You know what I mean?
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That's a good question.
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I don't know how it's supposed to come off to the audience
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that like, ah, yes, here, I will prove all of this stuff
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about weather weapons.
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And I'll tell you, it's because this CIA guy who
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is posing as a militia leader told me about it in 94.
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Man.
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Seems like a good reason not to believe it.
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It has got to be, and I think it's a learned skill,
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but one you can learn to apparent Michael Jordan levels.
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The ability to never go like, whoa,
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did I really just say that?
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Like that's got to be, because sometimes when you say stuff,
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even now, you're like, I can't believe that happened.
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Wow.
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Well, it's an improv talent in a way.
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Yeah, in a way.
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But yeah, it's just, I don't know.
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I think that you're presenting this as,
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this is what I'm going to show you.
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This Robert Fletcher, he wows the committee with this
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evidence that he pulls out.
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Oh, shit, he didn't pull out any evidence,
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but he totally did it later, and the CIA.
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I'm like, what the fuck is happening?
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It is, in the story, he feels exactly how we're feeling,
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where he's like, oh, man, I wish you had brought that up.
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That would have made my job easier.
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So the Air Force and the Navy both
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admit that they could control hurricanes in the 60s, I guess.
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The Air Force and the Navy, in consultation
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with Standard Research Institute,
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certified all this in the mid 60s,
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and then it got made secret and given to another division
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in 67 and 69, that they, quote, had full control of hurricanes.
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Could create them, could steer them, could kill them.
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And there is report to Congress, need for an actual weather
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modification research program, 1974.
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Well, they already had it.
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So Alex just has a headline there,
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but he doesn't realize that this is a comptroller report
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about how there is a need to centralize weather research,
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because there could be overlapping studies being
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done by different agencies, and that was just wasteful.
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This report has nothing to do with weather research
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as being new.
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In fact, it says that the budget for this across the government
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was $3 million in 1959.
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That report from 1974 that Alex, someone has accidentally
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flashed up on screen, also says, quote,
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science lacks the knowledge to answer many of the questions
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on weather modification.
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For example, a thorough understanding
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of how clouds create rain and snow has not been obtained.
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If weather modification research,
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which is primarily federally supported, proves successful,
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it may be possible in the future years
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to alleviate drought, reduce the destructive forces
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of hurricanes, suppress lightning and damaging hail,
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and dissipate fog.
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This proves nothing.
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Other than that, Alex is unprepared.
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Even the report says, listen, we'll have that information
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for you by tomorrow.
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Yeah, we don't know shit.
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We don't know yet.
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We got to, well, listen, we'll go back, we'll get that,
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well, we've got a whole package.
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I'll get our guys on it, and then we'll have it for you.
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I just underwhelmed.
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So maybe he's got some more deets.
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Maybe he's got more to throw at.
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Possible.
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There was a Nobel Prize won in 92
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that Bill Gates has now picked up on.
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About the company, to quote, spray the atmosphere,
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to quote, give the earth sunscreen
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to stop global warming.
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They just add nuclei of barium, salt, some dioxide,
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different forms of silver oxide into the fuel.
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Then the jet engines put out the nuclei causing particles.
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And they go, oh, that's just ice crystals.
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Well, I remember before the mid 90s,
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a plane would fly by high and you'd see the crystals form.
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Oh no.
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Then it would disappear in a minute, remember?
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So this is just old nonsense chemtrail narratives
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about Bill Gates wanting to block out the sun.
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And I guess it has to do with someone
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who won a Nobel Prize in 92.
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This is just a bunch of conspiracy word salad,
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and it does nothing to prove
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that the government can control hurricanes,
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which is supposed to be the premise that we're building on.
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He's just touching all these waypoints that he can,
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and it's just, ugh.
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Yeah, and that gets to the dark side,
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which is that it's not fair that one group of people
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doesn't have to do their homework.
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Everybody else is doing homework,
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even getting Bs from time to time.
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This motherfucker doesn't even do his homework
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because the people he's talking about
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didn't do their fucking homework.
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It's a whole series of people who are not doing homework.
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Yeah, that's basically the anti-communist tradition.
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Yeah, it is, isn't it?
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Not doing homework for 70 years.
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As long as you don't do your homework,
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you can recycle your grievances to a thing
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that you also didn't do your homework about.
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Why didn't anybody talk about this?
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They did, you just didn't do your homework.
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You didn't care.
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So anyway, most of this
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that is actually what Alex wants to do
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seems to boil down to the interview
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that he did with Ben Livingston.
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And so he plays a clip,
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and my feeling on it was just like,
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this seems like an old man who did some cloud seeding
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at some point in his younger days.
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Did you fly those?
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Yes.
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You piloted the F-4?
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Yeah.
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So you're a jet pilot too, huh?
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Yeah, I did these for about seven years.
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You fly them all, huh?
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That's neat.
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And these were our own airplanes.
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The airplanes I had in my commercial cloud seeding business.
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See?
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Let's stop right there.
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Turbo chart two.
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I'm gonna go to the next clip
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where he talks about certifying
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a U.S. government controlling hurricanes.
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I'm gonna show you Congress documents,
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U.N. treaties, all of it.
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And this just broke.
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So I'm gonna move Pastor Brown back 15 minutes.
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He'll understand.
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He's in Tampa.
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Congress is now confirming that Hurricane Helena
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did have U.S. government weather weapon planes in it.
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Now we already have the tracks.
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We already have the tail numbers.
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They don't even have this crap.
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Wow.
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So Congress has confirmed.
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When, why, to what purpose?
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For what purpose?
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They confirmed it.
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To do what?
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To whom?
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I don't, I don't think it happened.
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I don't, I can't answer those questions
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because they are downstream from the thing that didn't happen.
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From the fundamental problem that it did not occur.
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But beyond that,
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I think that Ben Livingston just seems like a,
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like an old man who's talking about flying planes.
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Yeah, I bet he was great at it.
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Sure.
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I bet he was great at flying planes
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and then he got old and he liked talking
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about flying planes because that was whenever
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he was awesome.
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Yeah.
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And I think that some of the perceptions
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that he might have from back then
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might have some accuracy to them.
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Sure.
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And I'll explain that after this clip.
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Okay, let's go to Livingston talking about
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after he, well he's still in Vietnam,
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but coming back and then running projects
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and then totally controlling hurricanes.
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Here it is.
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The results from the Hurricane David experiment
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seemed so positive that many individuals
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believe the project should go operational,
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seeding major hurricanes that threaten land.
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A team of scientists at Stanford Research Institute
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at Stanford University did a decision analysis
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on all past seeding events,
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including the Astor, that's in 1961 and 1963 experiments,
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experiments.
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Dr. James Madison of that group,
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reflecting their views, stated,
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we claim they should consider seeding now if a big hurricane
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comes straight from Miami.
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These scientists said the government may have
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to accept responsibility for not seeding
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and thereby exposing the public to higher probabilities
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of severe storm damage and possible higher death tolls.
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So Livingston is discussing, you can't really tell
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because of the way that this is cut,
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but he is discussing experimentation that was done
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on Hurricane Debbie in 1969 as part of Project Storm Fury.
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They believed that they could seed clouds in the hurricane
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that would make it weaker and they got encouraging results
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initially.
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At first, it looked like their actions led
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to decreased wind speed, but after more research
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that went on well after when Livingston would have retired,
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they determined that there was a natural explanation
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for the results they got and it was likely
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that they didn't have any effect on the hurricane.
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They just had a very limited data set.
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This experiment was really exciting though
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and it gave a bit of outsized appearances
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to the ability to affect hurricanes.
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I don't think that what he's talking about
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is necessarily insane, but it's outdated.
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And one of the issues that they ran into
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with this Project Storm Fury was that ethically speaking,
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there were so few hurricanes that they could try this on
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because it had to be hurricanes that were very,
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very unlikely to make landfall somewhere
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so they couldn't exacerbate something that would hurt people
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and so the candidates for hurricanes
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that they could run these tests on, very limited.
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And so Debbie was one of the ones
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that they could run a test on
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and it showed promising results,
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but in a way that also reflected the limited knowledge
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that they had of hurricanes.
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The more they learned about hurricanes
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after the 60s, the more they realized,
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like, ah, we didn't do shit, we didn't do shit.
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Yeah, I mean, that classic mad scientist moment
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where it's like, oh, I shouldn't have played God.
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It looks like not playing God looks like that
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where you're like, oh, this hurricane might touch land.
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Let's not fuck with it because what if we fuck it up?
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Right?
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So you don't do it.
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But in a way, Alex is like, man,
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they should really try and just fucking go whole hog
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on this, right?
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Why not?
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Which is a stupid point for him to have.
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It's an insane thing to think.
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Right.
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Because of all the other things.
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Couldn't you justify cow-human hybrids
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by saying if the government didn't do it,
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people wouldn't have organs?
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People wouldn't have, yeah.
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There's all kinds of really stupid implications for him
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that grow out of this.
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No, what they should do is play God here, but not here.
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Why?
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Because I think so.
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Because it's advantageous for me right now
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to hold this position.
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So I think that Ben Livingston, for the most part,
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especially the clips that Alex is playing in his treatise
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here, I think that a lot of it is explainable by him
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being an old man who was around in the late 60s
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and then retired and doesn't have access to or involvement
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in updates.
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So he's operating on a lot of or.
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This is entirely possible.
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He's talking to Alex about the understanding
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that they had back then.
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And Alex is choosing to pretend like he's talking
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about present-day technology.
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It is entirely possible that he knows
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that some of this stuff was shown to be like,
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we didn't actually stop this hurricane.
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Yeah, but I mean, you know.
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Maybe he knows that, I don't know.
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Listen, I hesitate to give, I'm not giving free passes.
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But in the life that I've led, I would probably
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say most old men, once they get to a certain level
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of irrelevance, like to talk like they
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had a lot more relevance than maybe they did.
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I could have controlled every weather event.
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I mean, you know, it's like, I get it.
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But who are you hurting?
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You're at a bar in the middle of nowhere.
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The only problem is when you go on Alex's show.
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You know, when you're in a bar in the middle of nowhere,
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just talking with your buddies.
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Ah, we could control the weather.
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And they're like, yeah, I was there too, asshole.
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Yeah.
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But yeah, but once you get into Alex's show,
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it becomes weaponized.
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Problematic.
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So I was like, all right, you got this Livingston video.
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Great, good for you.
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Let's get to some more evidence.
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And here, this is just so uninspiring.
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Then we have the aircraft going in,
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and I have countless of these videos by meteorologists,
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by scientists, and by lay folks who see the planes take off.
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They go in and do the classic weather modification maneuvers.
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And the damn storms get stronger.
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Classic.
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They could go in and knock the damn things down and dump it
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in the ocean.
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But they don't.
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They use the excuse of liability.
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But they are controlling.
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And that's the whole history of this corrupt government.
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And other governments are doing it.
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And there's a UN treaty, 77 and 78, two treaties against it.
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I'll show you those.
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That CIA director talks about those treaties in a moment.
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But first, let's play one of the clips.
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And I looked this up myself.
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It's accurate.
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They're not even hiding these Department of Energy aircraft
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working with the Pentagon, the Navy, and the Air Force
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doing this.
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Here's a clip.
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I'm not saying that the government created Hurricane
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Helene.
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What I am saying is that the government
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has been manipulating the weather since 1947.
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What first caught my attention with Helene
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was the shift in the storm's projected path.
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One day, it looked like it would hit my town.
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The next day, it had shifted east.
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I then noticed an odd flight path of NOAA 42,
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the aircraft being flown, a Lockheed Martin Orion P-3.
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This prompted me to look at previous uses for the P-3,
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where I discovered that they were used in the 1960s
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to manipulate Hurricane Camille in a, quote,
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weather war on Cuba.
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Now, I know this sounds out there.
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But as we begin to see more and more of the terrible things
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our government has done in the past,
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is it really so far-fetched?
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Is it so far-fetched?
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So this isn't proof of anything.
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This is attention-baiting conspiracy content
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that you put out to rile people up on social media
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from the voice, the modulation, the music.
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This is bullshit.
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Whoever created the precedent for this type of narration
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over this type of music, and it wasn't Alex,
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but he was somebody who engaged in it in a horrible way.
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God, they got to go.
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That was fucked up.
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It was actually Ben Livingston.
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I really wish they had done that.
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I presume it was.
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I was waiting for one of us to get that.
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It had to happen.
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Sooner or later.
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So if Alex had a strong case, there's
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no need to play this video.
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He's supposed to have all the documents,
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but all this is just misrepresentations of things
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that Ben Livingston told him two decades ago in meme bait
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trash.
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Like, what is this?
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He's not even trying.
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The truth?
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And I hate to harp on Keats.
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I hate to go back to The Truth is Beauty.
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But do you know what?
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The truth does not need underground music.
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The truth does not need a backing band.
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The truth is generally fine on its own.
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Right.
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If Alex could make a strong, persuasive, compelling case
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about the government having weather weapons that they've
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been able to use to stop and control and joystick control
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hurricanes since the 60s, he would
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be able to lay this out in a compelling and interesting way
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with the documents, with dry-ass source material.
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Totally.
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He would not need all this bells and whistles distraction
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bullshit pointing to all these weird semi-related talking
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points about Bill Gates wanting to block the sun.
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It's just, it's, I find it sad.
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I've not read a really good, what would I say?
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You know, like there are books like,
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Brian Cox wrote a book fairly, not too long ago,
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but it was like, why does he equal MC squared?
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Where he kind of tries to give you a visual language
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tour without, you know, being like, if you have times
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divided by, you know, he tries to give you an idea of what
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it would look like physically for E2 equal MC squared.
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It's very good, you know?
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But at no point in time was I like, ah, man,
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in order for me to believe this, I'm
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going to need some ominous music.
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Right.
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I'm going to need something to give
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this little sensational oomph.
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I'm going to need to this to be somehow meme-able.
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Yeah, yeah, I want to make sure that this
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will get me attention.
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Yeah, it's just, it's nothing.
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It's not, it's unnecessary.
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So we have one last clip because Alex
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is going to get around to, he's not going to get around.
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I mean, he'll do it by tomorrow for sure.
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He's going to get around to it.
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All right, and I got a bunch more of these.
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OK, so we're going to come back, start the next hour,
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get into all the rest of it, we'll share the documents.
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This is such critical information.
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Remember, we can't do this without you.
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The incredible, highest quality Seamoss
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that has the best iodine out there and all these other trace
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elements, so good for your whole body.
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Oh, god.
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Seamoss.
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We're going to get around to it.
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We'll do it later.
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But hey, you got to go buy this Seamoss.
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I resent strongly having to live through a time of soy boy
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conversation.
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And now we get to a place where it's like, oh,
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you're a Seamoss boy?
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Is that what we're doing?
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Is that what we're doing?
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What does this even mean?
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We're a Seamoss fella.
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How is it possible for plants to have a gender-based design?
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No, no, I'm out.
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Well, Seamoss is super strong.
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I mean, I bet it is.
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Whereas a soybean is weak.
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I don't know if that's true.
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I think it is.
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If you look at nature, it's just,
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I don't fucking know.
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I think it is funny, though.
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Maybe it's moss is a funny word.
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It is a funny word.
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Maybe that's meh.
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And then you add this at the beginning,
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so you've got the Seamoss.
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There's a lot of fun, like, what could Alex sell next?
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Bone broth.
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Yeah, it's great.
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Yeah, I wouldn't have predicted moss.
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I was, you know, you never know with these health scams.
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It seems like there's a new thing that has been recently
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rediscovered that the ancients, oh, man, the ancients
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knew so much.
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They were so smart.
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And it's just another thing that I see on the trash.
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And they're like, yeah, but if you put it in your body,
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you'll be healed.
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If you use mine.
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You know what, I get that we're all in pain all the time,
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because aging is the worst.
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But that doesn't mean Seamoss is going to help.
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It couldn't hurt.
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Yes, it could.
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Nah.
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So maybe he'll get to, you know,
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maybe he'll get to that evening.
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Maybe he'll do the real work.
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Maybe.
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And we'll see.
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I mean, we are living in the future.
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Pretty significantly past this.
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And in the few days since, we have confirmed
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that weather weapons are real.
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OK, well, that's nice.
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Yeah.
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What an asshole.
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Just a disgusting tragedy profiteer.
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Anyway, we'll be back with another episode.
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But until then, we have a website.
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Indeed we do.
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It's knowledgefight.com.
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Yep, we'll be back.
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But until then, I'm Neo.
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I'm Leo.
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I'm DZXClark.
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I am the mysterious professor.
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Woo, yeah, woo, yeah, woo!
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And now here comes the sex robots.
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Andy in Kansas, you're on the air.
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Thanks for holding.
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Hello, Alex.
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I'm a first time caller.
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I'm a huge fan.
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I love your work.
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I love you.