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I'm sick of them posing as if they're the good guys, saying we are the bad guys, a knowledge

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fight.

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I'm sick of them posing as if they're the good guys, saying we are the bad guys, a knowledge

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fight.

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Dan and Jordan, knowledge fight.

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I need money.

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Andy and Kansas, Andy and, stop it.

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Andy and Kansas.

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It's time to pray.

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Andy and Kansas, you're on the air, thanks for holding.

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Hello Alex, I'm a big fan of, I'm a huge fan, I love your words.

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Knowledge Fight.

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Knowledge Fight dot com.

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I love you.

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Hey everybody, welcome back to Knowledge Fight, I'm Dan.

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I'm Jordan.

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We're a couple dudes, like to sit around and worship at the altar of Selene and talk a

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little bit about Alex Jones.

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Oh, indeed we are.

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Dan.

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Jordan.

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Dan.

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Jordan.

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Quick question for you.

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What's up?

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What's your bright spot today, buddy?

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My bright spot today is I finished the first season of Poker Face, and that's great.

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We've talked about this a little bit on the show.

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I watched Glass Onion and Knives Out.

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I think I might be a Rian Johnson guy.

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I don't know anything about him except these two movies and this show, and I'm into it.

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I'm excited.

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I dig these products.

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I'm excited because you're eventually on, here's what I'm excited for.

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You're on a pathway that leads you to being on a couch next to me watching The Last Jedi,

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and it's gonna be great.

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I think I've seen it.

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I didn't say, oh, for the first time.

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Right.

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I think I've seen all the Star Wars movies.

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I think.

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I know that I've seen all of the old ones, which includes the prequels.

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Right.

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Because now we're all old.

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Yeah.

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Yes.

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But I think I've seen the last three, too.

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Okay.

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Also.

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All right.

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Not three, two.

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Also.

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Right.

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But this was before you found out you were a Rian Johnson guy.

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True.

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True.

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Before I'd been introduced to Benoit Blanc.

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Yeah.

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Now you know about the Blanc.

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Now you need to know about the Star Wars.

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Is Daniel Craig somewhere in that Star Wars movie?

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That's what I'm asking you.

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I actually don't know.

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That might be one of those things where if you watch behind the scenes, they're like,

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Daniel Craig wanted to be on the set for one day.

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He's hiding in the background.

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There's a stormtrooper smoking a cigar.

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Oh, if he was one of the red stormtroopers, that'd be fucking dope.

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Yeah.

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But I just really like, you know, I like a mystery show.

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Sure.

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I like that whole aesthetic.

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Natasha Lyonne's great.

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She's great.

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It's a lot of fun.

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Without any spoilers, I just thought it was a very satisfying, also just the arc of the

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season.

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Great.

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It's great.

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How about you?

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I guess tomorrow I'm getting my first appointment with my tattoo, getting my leg done, whole

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bottom knee down, getting my leg, I'm very excited.

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So I've always been a huge fan of the old ink wash paintings from, you know, because

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my Mandarin's great.

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And so I was thinking about that, thinking about one of my favorite poets, Han-Shan.

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I was thinking about mountains, essentially, is what I'm trying to say.

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I was just focused on mountains for a while.

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And then, yeah, I decided that I wanted one of those.

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A mountain?

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Yeah.

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Okay.

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But I couldn't afford one, for obvious reasons, so I got a tattoo.

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And the artist that I like, Caitlin Drake McKay, turns out she learned all about the

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ink wash stuff.

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Wow.

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Yeah, yeah, yeah.

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What luck.

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From school and all that stuff.

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So we're talking about it, and I wanted that kind of thing.

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But in her style, you know, from when we're alive, which is now, and not several hundred

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years ago.

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Merging the present and the past.

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That's the idea.

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So tomorrow is when I'm going to see what it is.

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Nice.

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So I'm getting my Sean.

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All right.

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Yeah, I'm excited.

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I'm very happy for you.

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I'm excited.

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It's very interesting when someone says, I'm getting, like, tomorrow I'm getting, or whatever,

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because that could go, like, you know, your brain's Google autofill.

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Could go anywhere.

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And the first thing I thought you were going to say was my wisdom teeth out.

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I don't know why.

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That's interesting.

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That was stuck in my head.

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That's interesting.

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Does she have your wisdom teeth?

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I don't.

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I had them out.

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Good for you.

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And then I read, recently somebody's like, why are we ripping everybody's wisdom teeth

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out?

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And nobody had a good answer.

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I didn't know that this was a controversial subject.

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Turns out, probably doesn't make any sense.

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Shit.

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I don't know.

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Yeah, someone, I got that root canal, and then someone very kindly brought up to me,

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hey, you know, the people who say root canals, maybe they're not what you're supposed to

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do anymore.

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Great.

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Cool.

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Every time I learn about something, the thing that I knew for my entire life turns out to

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be wrong.

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Yeah.

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Sweet.

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Great.

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Awesome.

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Well, tattoos are healthy, and I hope it goes well.

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I'm excited.

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Yeah.

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You know how St. Louis I am?

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How St. Louis?

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Yeah, that's my tattooist.

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Ah.

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That's a Murphy Lee lyric.

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Yep.

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Yep.

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So, Jordan, today we had an episode to go over.

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We're going to be talking about September 11th, 2024.

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All right.

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Not 2001.

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Sure.

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We've already done that.

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Yes, we have.

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We're going to be talking about Wednesday on Alex's show, the anniversary of September

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11th.

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Probably, you know, I think in the context of his career, probably one of the biggest

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things.

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Yeah, I would say so.

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In terms of being the building blocks of what he's got now.

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Wow, that's an ironic...

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Yeah?

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Yep.

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Because his career started, obviously, with stuff about Waco and rebuilding the church

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in Carmel and stuff.

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There's that shit, but that never would have gotten us where we are now.

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No, I mean-

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9-11 truther stuff is really the bedrock.

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It is interesting to think that perhaps 9-11 truthering and just W and Chaney together

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are the reason that Patriot lore became all lore.

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It became so widespread in the way that it has.

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There's such an increase in its place in the market.

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Yeah.

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I would very strongly argue that all of the disinformation network space and all that

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stuff that's been created out of that was really a result of Bush and Chaney and the

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Iraq war.

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You know?

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Yeah.

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Yeah, especially the effect of the combination of 9-11 and the Iraq war in as much as deeply

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traumatic events paired with sort of untrustworthy responses to them create just a vast space

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that something like Alex can thrive in.

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Yeah, why would you trust the official story when the official story is untrustworthy?

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It's just we're stuck with this asshole instead.

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Which is not trustworthy either, but eh, here he is.

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Here we go.

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So we'll get down to business on this here episode, but first let's take a little moment

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to say hello to some new wonks.

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Ooh, that's a great idea.

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So first, my boy Bath Salt.

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Thank you so much.

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You're now a policy wonk.

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I'm a policy wonk.

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Thank you very much.

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Let's go next.

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Chris loves Blair.

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Thank you so much.

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You are now a policy wonk.

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I'm a policy wonk.

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Thank you very much.

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And congrats on the new job, Mary!

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Exclamation point.

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Thank you so much.

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You are now a policy wonk.

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Thank you very much.

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Thank you.

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And we got a technocrat in the mix, Jordan.

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So thank you so much to Heather.

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Continue using Knowledge Fight as the carrot for washing your face and keep an eye out

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for domestic Tyler, ooh, demonic Tylers.

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Demonic Tylers.

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Right, demonic Tylers.

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Uh, look out.

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Uh, you're now a technocrat.

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I'm a policy wonk.

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Four stars.

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Go home to your mother and tell her you're brilliant.

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Someone, someone sodomized and sent me a bucket of poop.

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Daddy shark.

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Bomp, bomp, bomp, bomp, bomp, bomp.

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Jar Jar Binks has a Caribbean black accent.

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He's a loser.

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Little, little titty baby.

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I don't want to hate black people.

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I renounce Jesus Christ.

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Thank you so much.

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Yes, thank you very much.

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I thought that, um, domestic Tylers was a play on domestic terrorists and, uh, my brain

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just jumped to that.

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Right.

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Didn't even see demon there.

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I immediately thought, when did they domesticate Tylers?

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Were, have they, have Tylers been domesticated for-

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Horse was first.

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Was it first?

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Okay.

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Wolves was about 30,000 years ago.

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So I put Tylers at maybe- Where do you think horses were?

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Uh, 60,000?

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I don't know.

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Thousand, thousand?

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Do you think wolves or horses came first?

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I think, I don't know.

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I think anything I say will be 100% a guess at any type of like backing up of it will

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be bullshit.

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So I'll, I'll leave it to the experts.

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I'm not even making fun of you.

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I think it probably were concurrent.

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I have no idea.

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Someone was working on both at the same time.

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Hey, I'm fine not knowing.

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So we start off here, Jordan, it, like I said, it's September 11th.

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Yeah.

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But it's not just the anniversary of the terrorist attack.

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Sure.

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It's also the day after the first debate between Trump and Kamala Harris.

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Right.

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And so Alex obviously has a number of thoughts about both of these subjects.

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Yes, I imagine so.

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Waging war on corruption, crashing the lies and disinformation.

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You found the tip of the spear worldwide driving forward the truth of the heart of the beast

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that is the new world order.

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It is Wednesday, September 11th, 2024, 23 years to the date that the deep state attacked

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the world trade center complex and the Pentagon.

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And I was there as we speak, as the towers fell, demolition, what an epic debate last

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night.

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It's going to take some real work to cover all the angles.

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Trump won, but it was three against one.

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And Kamala lied about everything.

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He told the truth about everything.

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And it's easy to Monday morning quarterback it.

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She has such low expectations that because she was able to just parrot off stuff and

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snarl at him, she looked more impressive than she normally does.

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But that's like 100 pounds of dog manure versus 80 pounds of dog manure in your yard.

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It all sucks.

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It's all terrible.

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But because the expectations were so low.

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Oh, my gosh, she's done just a totally fabulous job.

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She did a pretty good job.

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Okay.

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Yeah.

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Which is better, 80 or 100 pounds?

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Of manure?

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Yeah.

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Depends on if you need to fertilize the crops.

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I mean, that's-

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I mean, it depends on if you have a use for it or not.

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It's a little ambiguous.

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If your expectations are low, you would, you know, low 80 pounds.

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But I mean, maybe you would prefer your expectations are like, well, it's probably 100 pounds.

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Oh, it's only 80 pounds that I have to remove from my lawn.

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Right.

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It's very difficult to understand.

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Well, I mean, if you have no use for something, then having more of it is better.

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But if you have a use for it.

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If you have something, you should find a use for it.

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I think that Alex is struggling because the debate did not go well for Trump.

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I think pretty much across the board, people were like, this is pretty bad.

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Why would it?

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It's a bad look.

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He looks bad.

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How could it?

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Yeah.

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Why did it happen?

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Yeah.

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I don't know.

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That was more my thought.

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When I was watching it, I was like, boo, this is grim.

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Yeah.

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But she was doing fine.

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Sure.

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Kamala Harris did fine.

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Sure.

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Trump, he was yelling about how everyone's eating dogs.

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And I recognize that we still have to go through the motions.

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But if one of the Uruk-hai is running for president, I don't think man fleshes back

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on the menu boys is like, oh, okay, well then we've got this one.

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It was dark.

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But I always try and keep a little bit of perspective and I understand that we've gotten

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where we are by degrees and it is just sort of gradual and over time that this is-

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Frog boiling.

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Hey, I mean, I have to correct you because I've corrected Alex on that one.

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That doesn't really happen.

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I understand.

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But we've gotten here as a slow progression.

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And if I imagined seeing this when I was younger, it would have been unthinkable.

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This would have been so shocking.

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Yeah.

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His behavior, like they're not really serious about this, right?

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Yeah.

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I mean, that is fun.

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That is funny because this is pretty much how I thought this was going to go.

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I mean, as far as a general direction goes, I think I was pretty right on from the jump.

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I don't know if I'm right about events or anything, but this is where I thought we were

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going.

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You've got one candidate who you can have some pretty good disagreements with if you

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want, but is being a politician and then you've got a lunatic and that's essentially the dynamic

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that we exist in.

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I mean, it's perfect.

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It's perfect to have a lunatic because then what the lunatic does is reveal that actually

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the media is fucking insane.

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Like the idea of any of them have it like, well, we're going to fact check the...

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It's the Uruk-hai.

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Yeah.

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No, I mean, I don't disagree.

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It's just, I don't know what the answer is.

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Change.

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Once the Uruk-hai is there.

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Have the entire media go, oh shit, we have been pretending they're not orcs our entire

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lives of we're stupid.

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Well, but then the issue becomes like, we don't really have the power to say, you're

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not a legitimate candidate up there.

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It would be a shock to them if they discovered that they did have that power by just doing

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that.

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Um, so look, here's the deal.

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Yeah.

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Trump won.

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Sure.

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Obviously.

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Truth.

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About 70, 30.

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Oh, that's...

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What?

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What?

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What?

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What?

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Very generous for Alex.

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It was crazy.

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Now could have Trump totally dominated her and done better?

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Yeah.

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Trump won by I'd say 70, 30.

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If he'd have brought up 325,000 missing kids and said, you oversaw it, you're the greatest

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human trafficker in history with your cohort, your partner in crime Mayorkas, and when I

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get elected, we're going to find those children, we're going to prosecute you for stopping

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the DNA testing and telling the crime gangs to come in and giving them money.

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It would have been a 100.

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He would have politically gutted her and decapitated her non-violently politically, that's a metaphor,

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to the world.

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So I don't know what the hell the Trump campaign is doing on issues like that, but when you've

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got the nuclear weapon and you can use it and win, what is the problem?

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All right, so Trump won 70, 30, but if he had said the magic words and demanded that

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Kamala Harris show her demonic form that is truly underneath her face, I would have been

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a 100.

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Then he definitely would have won.

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If he would have forced her to admit that she worshiped Satan and is trying to kill

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all humans to usher in the age of silicon in honor of the planet Saturn.

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If he would have done that, then it would have been a 100.

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Yeah.

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I mean, you know, you make fun, but I do think that would have been a 100.

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If that's your benchmark, then yes, 70, 30 seems about right in context, now it makes

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more sense.

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Your benchmark is discovering the secrets of the universe, so yeah, I mean, yeah, you

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can't get a 100.

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Right.

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And demanding that she admit that Tim Wells is a Chinese agent.

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Yeah.

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Dude, whatever.

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Yeah, that was going to be tough.

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Everything Harris said lie.

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Everything.

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Every single thing.

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Okay.

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And it looks like it's a headache.

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I bet it did.

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And I think that might have also, alcohol can give you a headache.

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Yeah, that'll happen.

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Well, last night was extremely frustrating to watch, but also very interesting.

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Thank you for joining us on this live Wednesday, September 11, 2024 transmission.

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And we're going to dissect what happened there.

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Everything Kamala Harris said was a lie.

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And everything she said was a multiple, triple, quadruple, flip-flop.

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And it gave me a very bad headache when I was driving home at midnight last night.

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The crew stayed until past 1 a.m. on air, did a great job.

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I'd been up since 5 a.m.

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I had to tap out at midnight.

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And then I got up at 5 a.m. this morning after about four and a half hours sleep and went

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back to work.

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I have done my duty here, and you see this huge stack?

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Most of these are just one page thick.

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Each one of these is a lie by Kamala.

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Wow.

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You printed off a bunch of tweets.

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Congratulations.

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Wow.

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Wow.

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Just a lot of oppo research on each individual lie right there.

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Really burning the midnight oil.

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All right.

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All right.

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Yeah.

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I don't know.

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I mean, if I were him, I imagine it would give me a headache to watch this.

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Yeah.

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Because it looks bad.

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It's really, it's harder to cover for Trump.

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Yeah.

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Because he's saying enough stuff that is like, that's exactly what I would say.

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Yeah.

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And it looks stupid.

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Eee.

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So, I don't know.

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If you're Alex, you do a little bit more.

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It's just not, it's harder to make excuses.

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I just love that we're in a place where an entire political party was like, oh, I never

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thought that they wouldn't run the corpse against us.

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I was just so sure that this dead man would be, all we had to do is weekend at Bernie's

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this guy and we were going to win.

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How could they ever have chosen someone who was alive?

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Fascinating.

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Well, it's an interesting bet that they made, but unfortunately the things that were done

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while under that assumption have not paid off very well.

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No.

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Like Trump seems to not have any ability to adapt.

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Nope.

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Picking J.D. Vance was a stupid idea.

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Yeah.

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I just, I don't know.

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Just I would be pretty mad if I were Alex watching this, but one of the things that

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made him the most mad is the fact that it is a three on one match.

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Trump versus Kamala plus the two moderators.

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Oh, okay.

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And then you've got the three on one and I knew what I was seeing, but even Megan Kelly

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and Dr. Phil, but even seeing them people were like, well, they would do double follow

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up fact checks on him like they were God and of course they were lying.

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And so it was Kamala and the two so-called moderators gang up on Trump.

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They would talk over Trump.

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They would turn his mic up too high, down too low.

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They've had audio experts, Grammy award winners on with Phil talking about it.

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I mean, they were jacking with Trump and I give him a B plus.

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Oh, B plus.

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Was she plumping though?

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Was she on a bag of blood?

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Yeah.

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So this stuff Alex is saying just isn't accurate.

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I watched the debate in full and if anything, the moderators were overly fair to Trump.

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He kept butting in and wanting to respond to things Harris had said, even outside of

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the format of the debate.

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The moderators gave him a lot of leeway and there was at least one glaring instance where

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Harris wasn't given the same courtesy because they knew that they needed to move the show

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along and that she wasn't going to throw a tantrum if she didn't get her way.

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There were a couple of mic issues, but that wasn't just Trump.

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Harris had sound issues too.

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It was a production issue, not a Trump sabotage issue.

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I feel like we now live in a time where it's always in your best interest when you're someone

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like Alex to engage with stuff as if you're supposed to lose.

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If Alex says that the moderators are ganging up against Trump and the sound team is in

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on it, then Trump's actual performance doesn't really matter.

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If he loses the debate or it's just fine, then he actually should have won because the

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odds were up against him.

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They're stacked against him.

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Everything should have been impossible.

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He just was that good.

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On the flip side, if he wins, you just get to say that he defied all these impossible

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odds because he's just too good.

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All of this is just fake storytelling stuff that Alex is doing, but he's doing it in a

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way that projects weakness.

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I have a fundamental problem with this.

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Consider wrestling.

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A lot of times, the heels cheat.

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The bad guys cheat.

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That's the idea.

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They're the bad guys.

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They have their allies interfere in matches or they use weapons.

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Everyone knows that they're going to cheat.

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In a lot of instances, it can become what you expect from their matches.

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Right now, there's the faction, the bloodline.

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You know that they're going to interfere in matches to exploit the numbers advantage that

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they have.

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Sure.

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A babyface going up against them would look really shitty if they talked about how the

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game was rigged and that these guys were just going to cheat in their match.

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You'd rightly have a difficult time rooting for that person to overcome the odds because

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they come off whiny.

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Sure.

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Sure.

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Sure.

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Sure.

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Even if they won, it's probably because they cheated too, so who cares about their complaining

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about the cheating?

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It just makes you look weak.

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This is not...

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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Talking isn't going to do it.

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They're living in this.

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They're constructing this fake reality, but because the other party isn't really participating

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with them in it, they aren't able to do it well, and so they're playing this thing that

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just looks weak.

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I don't know.

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It's just...

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Yeah.

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If you're all talking shit, you know, then everybody's playing the same game, but whenever

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it's revealed that you're the only people talking shit and everybody is being patient

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with you, like the idea of, like, oh, God.

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Can you...

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Okay.

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In 2016, I get it.

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You're getting blitzed.

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You're a media person who's supposed to be moderating a debate, and this is Trump debate,

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so you're like, I don't even...

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When we were doing this with fucking Gore and Bush, everybody was just like, lockbox,

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you know?

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It was very simple stuff.

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Even when you had Ross Perot, he wasn't being like, my dick isn't small.

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Totally.

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Absolutely.

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Yeah.

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So in this case, in this regard, I get you not knowing what to do, but if you are now

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in 2024 and you're like, well, I am going to make my decisions based on the fact that

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I know that this giant baby is going to throw a tantrum and you're going to mollify that

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baby, then you should quit.

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You should quit.

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I think that a lot of people probably are scared.

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Yes, exactly.

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Of him.

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If you are scared, you should quit.

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You should fucking quit.

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I think that the moderators did a fine job of holding the line, as it were, in terms

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of this debate.

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And I think that Harris had the most...

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I've seen of anybody who's been in a debate with Trump of a, like, I don't give a fuck

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about what you're saying.

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Yes.

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So there is a bit of that, and the moderators, to their credit, they only were like, this

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is stupid, a couple times.

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Most of the time, it was just like, each person, say what you're going to say, and then we'll

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thank you for saying it.

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It was a fairly neutral presentation, but there were just a couple times where Trump

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was like, they're executing babies after they're born, and they had to be like, that's illegal

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in every state.

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I know that.

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I mean, that.

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Right.

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But I think that the point that you're making about in 2016, there was very little awareness

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of how to handle this.

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It made sense.

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And I think this was handled a little bit better.

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I think there's still improvements that could be made in how you present stuff, but that's

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always going to be the case with the media.

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It's never going to be perfect, but you see improvements.

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Well, good.

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I'm very proud of them.

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Yeah.

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I really just wanted Trump to take the headshot about immigration and all these missing children

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at the border.

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Yeah.

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Kamala Harris is personally trafficking, and he's pretty pissed off that Trump wouldn't

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do it.

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Okay.

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He's got the Death Star pointed right at her little pea brain and just pulled the trigger.

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Good God.

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So I'm going to shoot some videos on this, and I'm going on the warpath in a loving way

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towards Trump.

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What?

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Because when he talked about it in two speeches the last three weeks, it went sensational.

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Everybody wants that.

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It's the right thing to do.

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It is the winning issue that unifies everybody.

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And I'm just sitting here watching it, and of course, oh, he trained with Tulsi to go

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after her being the big police state person and putting innocent people on death row.

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Didn't open up on her about that.

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And look, I say this not to sit here and say I would have done it better.

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But overall B-plus, man the arena, works his ass off, 78 years old.

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I'm not Monday morning quarterbacking this or Wednesday morning quarterbacking it literally.

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I am just simply saying that he kept the gloves on most of the time.

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A little bit at the end, he took them off a little.

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And I would like to see that.

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So we've got all that.

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It's the 23rd anniversary of 9-11, which if you study it, which nobody study it probably

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more than I have, it's an inside job, totally synthetic, deep state operation.

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Wow.

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He sounds really pathetic there at the end, sadly trying to hold on to some idea that

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he's a 9-11 scholar.

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Alex has literally no idea what any of his theories were about 9-11, and the most successful

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thing he did around that event was to re-release someone else's already successful movie Loose

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Change and add his name to it and call it Loose Change Final Cut.

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Stolen Valor conspiracy theory bullshit from Jason Burmas.

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But more to the point, you can see how much Alex doesn't really like Trump starting to

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come through.

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Trump's not extreme enough and he doesn't have the ability to entirely steamroll a presidential

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debate anymore.

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His rudeness and tricks are kind of old now, so they don't have the same impact they did

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in 2016, so most of the debate ends up him saying insane things, and then the moderators

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saying thank you, then they move along.

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Harris didn't even feel the need to respond to most of the bullshit Trump was saying,

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and like I said, I think that's pretty good.

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Alex wanted Trump to be his weapon, and he's losing his attractiveness as a weapon.

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He won't take these headshots when he has the chance.

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It's kind of like he's outlived his usefulness to the crypto-Nazis and only really serves

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any purpose if he just cuts the bullshit and becomes a tyrant.

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This is basically the frustration and tension that Alex is describing.

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He kind of hates Trump because he embodies all of the things that Alex is supposed to

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be against, but he's the only opportunity Alex has had in his lifetime to get the thing

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that he wants most, which is to wield the power of the state against his enemies.

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This whole thing does have big made-a-deal-with-the-devil vibes, and we're in that stage where it's not

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as fun anymore.

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Yeah, no.

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I'm going to go on a loving crusade against Trump.

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No, I know.

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That's crazy.

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I mean, it is really.

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We are in a situation where it does seem to be the only thing that makes sense is he's

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going to have to try and take over and become an actual tyrant, right?

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Yeah.

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Because there's no way that it would mean anything to win or lose, so he's just got

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to do it.

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If the stakes are as high as everybody says they are, like, oh, they're going to kill

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babies in the streets, then he has no option in the eyes of his own people but to steal

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it.

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He would be seen as one of the great, well, also, let's look at the flip side.

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He'd be seen as one of the greatest traitors if he just gave up.

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Yes, yeah, absolutely.

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Right?

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Yeah.

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I mean, Tucker is describing him as the only hope that half of America has.

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Yep.

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Like, do you lose an election and then be like, well, half of America, good luck.

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Good luck filling my shoes, guy who's taken over this entire political party?

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I mean.

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No.

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The problem with the stakes that everybody's put onto this election is that if it is like,

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this is the direction of our democracy going forward forever, then it's like, well, yeah,

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it makes sense to try and steal it.

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That's the thing you should do if you care, right?

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I don't know.

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I think you get into a paradox there.

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Exactly.

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Right.

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Which is why whoever actually does it is probably going to win.

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You got to do it and then everybody else will be like, well, we need to argue about it.

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Sure.

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Yeah.

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If that's even possible.

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That is a good question.

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How would you do it?

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Yeah.

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I know Alex does a lot of theories about how they did do it, but they're all not true.

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They didn't work.

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Yeah.

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Because they didn't happen.

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Yeah.

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I don't know.

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I think that from a narrative standpoint and from making sense of the trajectories that

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we've been on, it kind of feels like Trump has to win and then become a dictator, or

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he has to lose and try to become a dictator afterwards and probably fail.

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Yeah.

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Hopefully fail.

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Hopefully fail.

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It feels like those are the things that are going to happen or most likely to happen.

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It does feel really strange to imagine like, nah, there's a scenario wherein Harris wins

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and Trump is like, remember after the 2016 election when he was like, lock her up.

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That was a good one.

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Totally.

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There's a chance that he just does that.

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Yep.

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Yeah.

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I don't know.

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I mean, yeah.

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The problem with all of his trials and stuff is that by postponing them after the election,

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the thing that you have made very clear is that if you win that election, there are no

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trials after the election.

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If you lose the election, you're going to go to jail because then people won't care

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if you go to jail.

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In fact, even your own people will be like, yeah, let's send that asshole to jail.

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He failed us.

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It becomes incredibly convenient for the right wing to turn on him at that point, I guess.

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Yeah.

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Which they should start doing now, much like they should start doing that with Musk, quite

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frankly.

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You would hope.

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Elon Musk, you guys are quickly... The window is closing on being able to disentangle yourself.

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But Alex talks about both of them in this next clip.

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Talking about how many clicks Trump got for doing an interview with Elon Musk.

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Right.

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Seems like a million years ago.

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Trump should do this again every week, for heaven's sakes.

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He went on with Elon Musk and had over a billion clicks, so they estimate over 700 million

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people watch more than 15 minutes.

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That's one of the biggest broadcasts in history, not the biggest.

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Okay?

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Hell, for something that big, they should add a video element.

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Musk can fly to Mar-a-Lago or meet Trump or Trump should come to Austin, shut up cameras,

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have a video stream as well as an audio stream, and it'll have even more viewers.

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Please, do a six-hour symposium or something.

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But, oh, we got to run to ABC.

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We got to run to CNN, whose average show has like a million, two million viewers on ABC,

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a million on their biggest shows on CNN, and 100,000 average show.

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I mean, they're just a facade.

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And I made the point that I couldn't count them all up just on X alone, but I did look

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at a lot of big channels and our coverage of Musk, Trump before, during, and after for

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like four hours, hour and 15 minutes of Trump, but about an hour before, you know, the hour

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and 15 with Trump and Musk about an hour and a half after, so three and a half, four hours,

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we had easily 15, 16 million just on X that we had four streams going out and, and it

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was, it was, it was, it was pushing 15, 16 million.

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And if you want to see this today, you can see it, it's up on Infowars.com.

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We have the different streams and links there for you.

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You can see what we had yesterday in the pregame during the debate and after for the three

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hours.

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I guess it was about, real coverage started about six to 1 a.m., so how many hours is

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that?

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That's seven hours.

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And you can see the article on Infowars.com, here it is, Breaking Infowars Received Over

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14 Million Viewers on X Alone During Our Trump Harris Debate Coverage.

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Now, now, now let's talk about that.

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That's on who broke that story?

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You go look at it.

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One's got 10 million.

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One's got 2 million.

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One's got a million and a half.

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The others have a half a million quarter.

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Is that Ronan Farrow's work?

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One stream alone is at 10 million right now.

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That's what it closed on it.

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Cool.

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10 million.

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Whoa.

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That's the Infowars stream.

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Usually it's the little stream, but it went crazy.

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10 million.

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Go look at it.

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Look at the number.

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10 million right there.

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Now, I'm not counting all the clips we put up.

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That's another, we looked it up, 7 million that we just went and looked, not other people

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copying it.

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So I looked at 30, 40 channels, because I think this is very interesting, that also

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re-streamed Musk.

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So we got 15, 16 million when we covered Musk.

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Everything, it was like 15 plus, because today I can show you the actual number.

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This was like a month ago.

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I'm trying to remember the actual exact.

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Do we need to be here for this conversation?

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I was looking at other people's coverage, 20 million, 30 million, 10 million, 6 million,

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8 million, 4 million, 1 million, 1 million, 1 million, 3 million, 2 million.

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And I just stopped at a minute and went, oh my God.

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I just put in Trump, Elon Musk, clicked the top thing and just was scrolling through the

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numbers.

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And it was, I mean, if you would, I have no idea how many it was on top of the billion,

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just on the Musk stream.

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700 million watched a lot of it.

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But over a billion, 200 million was the last number I saw clicked it.

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And that was the day after.

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Who knows what it is now?

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And then it was all over the dinosaur media and all over talk radio and clips everywhere.

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So the old media is dead.

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It's not like, oh, the old media is losing to the internet, or like Trump says, or, oh,

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wow.

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You know, they had polls out in the last week, wow, the internet now is much bigger than

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legacy media.

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Yeah, they say 70 plus percent is the internet, political coverage, of course it is.

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So even with all the censorship on all the other platforms, X has now more than doubled

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its size since Musk took over, like it's almost tripled.

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It's now the number one social media for engagement.

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This is, that clip was so long and I apologize.

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It feels like it goes on for what feels like forever.

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But like, honestly, a lot of his show is like that.

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I believe you.

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Enjoy.

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But Alex is trying to make this point that Trump talking to Elon got a lot of clicks

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on Twitter and that the debate on ABC got less viewers than that.

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So Trump should do more interviews with Musk and less mainstream stuff like the debate

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on ABC.

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Right.

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It's a pretty simple point that Alex has to talk about incessantly because it gives him

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this pretext to brag about his own inflated numbers.

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A lot of that information is entirely inaccurate, but I don't really care to argue about Alex's

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numbers or Elon's.

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Suffice it to say that Twitter is not doing record numbers.

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The opposite is actually happening.

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He's more or less destroying a social media company.

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But I want to pretend that it's all true because it's actually kind of worse if it is.

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If that is the case, that hundreds of millions of people, maybe a billion people watch the

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Trump-Elon interview, possibly a thousand times the viewership of ABC, what does the

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world actually remember about it other than it happened?

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In theory, based on what Alex is saying, it should have been a moment that will be recorded

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by history and taught to classes in the future.

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But I would bet a nice chunk of change that Alex doesn't even remember the specifics of

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what happened other than maybe the fact that they started late because the text sucked.

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If what Alex is saying is true, then he's really just illustrating how little of an

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impact his genre of social media has on the real world.

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Your shit can get a billion hits and it doesn't move the needle in a meaningful way.

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This isn't the flex that Alex thinks that it is.

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All of these numbers are actually making him look worse.

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The bigger they are, the more shit you have on your yard, essentially.

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Yeah, yeah, yeah.

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Also, Facebook, Instagram, TikTok, and WhatsApp have larger active user bases than Twitter.

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It is interesting to think about it in that context of if there were a billion views,

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exactly one billion, that would put it on par with when the penguin falls and everybody

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hears it go, a billion people have seen that.

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If that is the same, then they're of equal substance.

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There's about as much you get out of both of them.

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I would argue that maybe the penguin has more because it's not trying to.

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That's fair.

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Maybe it is more successful in what it is trying to do for a billion people than Trump's.

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I don't know.

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I was just reflecting on that as I was listening to him brag about all these numbers, that

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it's like, what?

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If that mattered, then Trump's numbers shouldn't be going down.

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The polling shouldn't be 50-50 or as close as they are if your billion hits mattered.

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If I'm a comic, which I used to be, and if I'm doing a show for 10,000 people at Madison

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Square Garden or whatever, I do not want to end that show and be like, man, I can't believe

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I did this show for 10,000 people who shrugged.

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What a shrug show.

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If I'm going to get shrugs, I'll do it for 10 people.

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If I'm going to do 10,000, I want fucking big goddamn laughs.

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I'm not getting shrugs.

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If you are able to captivate an audience of a considerable percentage of the Earth's population,

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then you should be making a lot more of an impact than whatever that fucking stupid boring

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conversation had.

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Alex was bored by it.

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Anyway, Trump, the only way he loses is if they cheat, is if he doesn't play, or if they

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cheat.

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Oh, okay.

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The dinosaur media is a shadow of a shadow of a shadow of a shadow compared to the independent

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media that is the media.

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We have won.

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There's election fraud in place.

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They're trying to convince you this is a close race.

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It's not.

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If he doesn't win, it is election theft, and they always, oh, the fact checkers, there's

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no evidence, she's right, that there was any fraud in 2020.

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None of the judges would hear it.

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They said there's no standing, and they punted it.

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Trump's won court cases all over the country.

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They're kicking millions and millions of illegals and dead people off the rolls over a million

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in Texas.

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And then the Justice Department goes, don't do that, we're going to indict you, or that's

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criminal.

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They said that two days ago.

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So they're covering up the windows, trucks are driving, when they say it's closed, the

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surveillance cameras get, you know, sued, the county and districts do, and you've got

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the footage of them looking over their shoulder, cramming in the ballots, and people cramming

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them in the drop boxes, and tracking the phone data, where they go to a safe house, thousands

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of people, and then you follow them with the phone data to a box where they put 50, 60,

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100 ballots in and take photos of each one.

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Sure.

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I mean, yeah, they stole the 2020 election, they tried to steal, they did mitigate the

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victory in 2022.

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What?

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That's your pitch?

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But I'm just going to say it again, whether they can steal this election or not, all over

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the world, the New World Order, the Globalist, the WEF, the Black Rock Crime Syndicate, power

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is slipping away from them, and the world is quickly waking up to them.

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So for me, that's the big takeaway.

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We can obsess over the rigged debate, and why did Trump do it?

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Or why did he say this or that?

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And Kamala is usually bombed out of her gourd or hopped up on amphetamines.

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She looked like she was on some amphetamines and a little mix of maybe something to relax

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her, but I think they got her meds right last night.

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Was it blood?

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This is the best performance we've ever seen from Kamala.

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But again, there's the lowered expectations.

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So this is the same dynamic I brought up earlier, where all of your narratives rely on the expectation

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of you losing.

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It sounds like what Alex is saying is that Trump is going to win, but in reality, what

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he's doing is saying that Trump actually losing is not even a possibility.

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So there aren't two possible futures, one where Harris wins and one where Trump wins.

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There's the future where Harris steals the election and wins, and the one where she tries

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to steal it and Trump wins anyway.

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According to Infowars lore, as we understand it, there is no world where Trump actually

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just wins.

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Like in 2016 and 2020, Alex knows there's a pretty decent chance Trump is going to lose,

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and he needs to have this built-in reason for why that happened that isn't the ideas

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that my world is based on that's unpopular with normal people and appeal mostly to severely

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online dipshits.

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All that stuff Alex was saying is bullshit that we've discussed in the past, so I'm not

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going to get bogged down in it again.

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But there's one point that Alex made that really sticks out.

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He says that no courts heard Trump's election cases and that they were all punted for lack

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of standing.

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That's something that Trump said in the debate, but it's a complete lie.

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I actually just remembered this from watching the debate.

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There's a moment where the moderator asks, recently you have accepted that you lost the

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2020 election.

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Right.

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How do you feel about that?

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Right.

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And Trump's like, no I didn't.

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Oh!

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See, that's where you lost.

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That's where you lose.

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If you're the media, you've already lost.

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Well, I think everyone was pretty shocked because he did say that we lost by a hair

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and stuff like that fairly recently.

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He said he was being sarcastic.

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Yep, there you go.

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Anyway, a 2022 report looked at 64 of Trump's cases that were raised in six states after

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the 2020 election, which found that 30 of them were not thrown out for lack of standing

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and they got hearings.

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This report, which was written by conservative legal scholars, said, quote, we conclude that

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Donald Trump and his supporters had their day in court and failed to prove substantive

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evidence to make their case.

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It's all shit, but this is a critically important piece of the bullshit infrastructure.

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This is the lie that allows the other lies to exist because it creates the explanation

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for how Alex could be correct about all these things and yet none of it's proven.

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If only Trump could have had his day in court, then the truth would come out.

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But Trump did have his day in court and he failed to prove any of this bullshit.

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Holding onto these unproven things and behaving as if they're true is essential to Alex's

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ability to keep going.

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So this keystone lie is holding up a lot of the weight of the other lies.

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All of that other stuff that he ranted off about cramming boxes and nonsense, all of

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that is supported by this idea that Trump never had his day in court and all of these

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cases were kicked out for lack of standing.

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He needs that to enable the other lies.

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Yeah, yeah, yeah.

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There's a lot of dynamics like that with his stories.

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Yeah, there's so much of like, it is a lot of what would you, you know, when rubber meets

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the road kind of shit where it's like either this or this.

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And if it's not this, you have to do something different.

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You can't continue to believe the same thing if you're faced with this choice.

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You just have to.

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Yeah.

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And they've chosen that Trump has won.

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It's already done.

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There's no going back now.

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And not only did Trump win the 2020 election, he's going to win this one.

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Of course.

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And he won the debate.

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He just won that fucking debate.

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Why would you ask, why would you do it and then have people continue to ask it after

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the debate?

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If you win the debate, people go, well, that's why you did it, to win the debate and show

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off how great he is.

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He won the debate, but he could have won more.

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What?

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Yeah, that's the thing.

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OK.

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The good news is I'm looking at the numbers.

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Most polls, Trump won.

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It was his to lose.

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He won the basketball game by 12 points.

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He could have won by 55.

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He could have done through the air, Air Jordan, you know, slamming and, you know, breaking

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the basket.

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Huge basketball.

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Shattering the glass.

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He didn't do any of that.

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Did Jordan agree with that?

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That's OK.

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He's 78 years old, works his ass off and refuses to debate prep.

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And so they come in and feed him all this stuff and give him all these documents and

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videos and then Trump doesn't even write notes.

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And then he just part of that's his strength.

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I get it.

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There are a lot of times on there when I already have the knowledge, but I don't really prepare.

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The best shows are when I don't prepare.

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But but that's maybe once a month that I do that because I'm so busy on something else.

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And then I just kind of go with my deeper knowledge and you get more of a sermon.

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So, again, so much of this just involves making excuses and it just sounds incredibly weak.

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Also, all of the credible polling around this is that Harris won the debate by a country

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mile.

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A CNN flash poll before the debate found 50 percent thought Harris would do better.

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Fifty percent thought Trump would do better.

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A poll after the debate found that 63 percent thought Harris did better.

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What you gonna do?

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Ninety six percent of Harris supporters thought she had done better than Trump, whereas only

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69 percent of Trump's own supporters thought he won.

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Harris's favorability rose from 39 to 45 before and after the debate, whereas Trump's dropped

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from 41 to 39.

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ABC reported on a trio of polls that came out after the debate among people who watched

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the debate.

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This included the CNN poll, which had a plus 26 margin for Harris, but also included YouGov,

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which had a plus 23 for Harris, and a Republican-sponsored poll conducted by SoCal Strategies, OnPoint

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Politics, and Red Eagle Politics that found a plus 19 margin for Harris.

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I can't find any polling that shows that Trump won, and the overwhelming majority of all

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the coverage of the debate was that Trump looked bad, Harris looked good, and it's insane

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that the race is close.

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Yeah.

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And then Taylor Swift endorsed Harris, and in retaliation, Elon Musk offered to impregnate

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her.

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So that's where we are.

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Cool.

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Yeah.

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I'm like it.

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So I've been doing the no internet thing.

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Now what I do have, though, here's my polling, all right?

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We talked about this way back.

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I put money on Nikki Haley, right?

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But I also put money on a woman president because at the time I was like, basically

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the same thing.

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I got a good bet on both.

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Sure.

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You're covering, you're doubling up a little bit.

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Sure.

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If Haley wins, you win both ways.

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It's the same difference.

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Yeah, yeah, yeah.

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Absolutely.

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So what works out, Haley doesn't win, but I've still got a really great bet going right

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now.

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What were your odds?

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One to five.

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That's not as... I mean five to one.

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I would have really thought you'd got better odds than that.

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At the time, no, because Haley was polling pretty well, so it was like five to one, something

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like that.

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But yeah.

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But still, at the time, the presumptive nominee on one side was Joe Biden.

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Yep.

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So one in five odds that a Republican has to... I don't know.

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I would have tried to get- I'm going to tell you this.

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... 20 to one on that.

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I'm going to tell you this.

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I'll tell you why.

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Very simple.

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People who gamble are also like, that guy's probably going to die.

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I'm gambling that he might die.

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True, true.

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That is the gambling mentality.

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One or both of those men are old.

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We are in an era where people die randomly.

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No, that's true.

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Trump got COVID.

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Yes, absolutely.

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Anybody could die at any point in time.

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But yeah, so anytime I want to see what the polling is like, it's usually like, oh, there's

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a 56 cents for Harrison, 44 for Trump, right?

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And that's the polling.

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Is it 53 to 47?

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That's the same thing.

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After the debate, Kamala... Yeah, it was up there.

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It was at like 60 or something like that, so she did better.

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Gamblers agree.

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Yeah, I think if gamblers watched that, they'd be like, I don't feel great having money on

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Trump.

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It kind of looks like shit, yelling about how people are eating pets.

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Not good.

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So Alex has decided that because Trump won't be enough outspoken about the human trafficking

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and all that stuff, that he's going to start attacking Trump in order to get him to toughen

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up.

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And I'm really serious.

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I've talked to the campaign people.

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I've talked to a lot of people.

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I can get Trump on the phone if I really want to, but it's pointless if he doesn't want

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to do it.

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So you know, I'm going to find out when he's at Mar-a-Lago, because this is the kind of

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thing that'll get attention.

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And I'm not going to be doing anything illegal or anything bad, but I'm going to go make

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a scene.

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And I'm hoping the message gets to him and I can call up Don Jr.

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You know, I call Kennedy up.

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I just, I do everything on air.

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I don't do stuff on the scene.

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Doesn't have the same ring as it used to.

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I do it with people.

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I give them stories too.

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That's not true.

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I give a lot of stuff to Rogan and other people, but they listen to me.

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If I give it to them, they do it usually.

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I can put a bow on it.

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I've sent Trump, I had law firms create reports for him about the deep state and the Soros

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people were in his cabinet and he started going after him and that's when I got attacked

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really hard.

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But I just, it's such a no brainer.

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Do I really have to start going after Trump on air?

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Yes.

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You know, I am, because we got to win 54 days out, 55 days out.

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This is bumming me out.

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Yeah, this is sad.

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Yeah.

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This is sadder than him talking to a robot.

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Go, go, yes.

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Should I, should I go cause a scene?

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Yes.

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You're Alex Jones.

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That's what you can do.

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That's what you do.

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Yes.

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Why are you not doing it is the question you should be asking yourself.

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Right.

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Right?

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Yeah.

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Maybe I shouldn't be nice to a political candidate.

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No, you shouldn't be nice.

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I kind of have a theory about that and we'll get to that in a minute.

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All right.

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Why he wouldn't do this kind of stuff that he used to do.

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Sure.

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Sure.

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But like, I don't know.

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There's just something so depressing about like, I could call Don Jr, maybe I'll call

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Kennedy.

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It's just like, dude, have, have dark thoughts.

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We all have dark thoughts.

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These aren't good dark thoughts.

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They're not good dark thoughts.

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But you know, when you're in the, when you're in the shower and you suddenly get hit by

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a memory of all the horrible things that you've ever done and you have these dark thoughts,

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everybody's been there.

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We all get that.

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That's fine.

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Don't go on the radio.

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Yeah.

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Don't just start muttering about how you could talk to someone who can talk to Trump.

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Not good.

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No.

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Again, it all just projects weakness.

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Have a donut.

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Yeah.

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And be like, I was sad, but now I'm eating.

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I don't know what else to tell you.

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Instead, it just keeps going.

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Just keeps going.

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I mean, you know, the stunts I can pull to get attention with Trump, the stuff I could

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do, I don't even go around doing this stuff.

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I just want to cover the news, see other people get involved.

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I could go out right now and just go to every event, go to the DNC, go to the RNC, go to

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the Trump events, go to all the things, make a huge spectacle, go to all the TPUSAs, go

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to the CPACs and take them over.

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I don't want to do that.

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But damn it.

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I wonder if I should skydive into Mar-a-Lago, of course it's controlled space and I'm joking

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and that'll be a headline.

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That'd be fucking great.

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I just want this to get to Trump and I just want him to stop.

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Yeah, just stop.

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This is really, really sad.

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And all I hear is two very loud messages.

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The first is that Alex has no access to Trump.

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If he can even reach him, it's probably through multiple layers of people like General Flynn

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or Roger Stone and it seems like maybe those two aren't going to do any favors for Alex.

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He is on the outside of whatever rings there are.

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The second is that Alex is a little bit afraid to find out if his publicity stunts work anymore.

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That's what I'm talking about is the reason why he probably doesn't do this.

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I don't think you're wrong.

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I think Alex knows damn well how disposable he is now, how if he goes against the mob

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that he's helped create, he won't lead the mob.

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It will turn on him.

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Loyalty to this figurehead is what matters right now, so sure, go try to take over some

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of Trump's rallies.

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We'll see how well it goes.

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Enjoy.

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Turning point is probably something Alex could have more success disrupting.

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Their influence has been decreasing and Charlie Kirk has outgrown it to have a brand of his

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own, so Alex might be able to mess with some of their events, but who cares?

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Nick Fuentes already did that and we've seen what the most successful outcome of invading

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them is, but I think that's probably a good option because they had Alex come speak at

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their conference, so they let him in the door.

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He could abuse that and really fuck with them if he wanted, but it's a dead end.

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I like the skydiving into Mar-a-Lago idea for a couple of reasons.

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One, if he gets shot down, Alex Jones shot down, lives forever.

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That's legend shit.

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You won.

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Right.

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I'll sit down and respect that shit.

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Two, succeeds?

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Fucking amazing.

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That's a stunt that everyone will talk about.

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Right, but even that is so... This is all still just Alex being uncreative because he's

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just stealing this from Lord Moncton.

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Yeah, that's true.

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Lord Moncton skydove into the climate conference.

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You're right.

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Yeah, he's just stealing other people's ideas to get attention.

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Yeah.

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As he usually does.

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Yep.

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Don't forget, though, that Alex is doing that show in Pennsylvania with Tucker on the 23rd,

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which is still not sold out.

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That's not good.

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There's still tons of seats available, and I think that Tucker might have realized that

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Alex isn't the draw that he was expecting.

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In an attempt to sell more tickets, they just added Jack Passobach to the show, and it's

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still not sold out.

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I think that Alex kind of understands all of this.

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He can lash out and probably get a ton of hits on Twitter, but it doesn't translate

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to anything meaningful.

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He's left whining and considering publicity stunts on his show, while Laura Loomer is

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on Trump's plane.

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Like Alex has been left behind, and until he recognized that and flips on this whole

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thing, his content can't really move forward.

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It's all just kind of like, you're just going to be mad at yourself until you turn on Trump

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and create something new for yourself.

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Yeah.

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Yeah, it's exactly that, because the cost of being on the in is giving up yourself.

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Laura Loomer is not a person.

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She is whatever Trump says she has to be to have her be on the plane.

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Yeah.

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She's an entity of hostility.

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Yeah.

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Yeah, yeah.

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That's it.

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Alex is in a strange place for these people, because Alex really did build it by himself.

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What he built was his.

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That was the thing about when we were looking at Becca Lewis's research, and she's showing

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like this whole thing is just separate from the media ecosystem.

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It's just, that's him.

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Then when he got on the inside, he had to become like a Laura Loomer, and now he's nothing.

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He's just nothing.

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They've stolen a lot of the things that he did in order to create whatever he created.

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In the process, he's given up so much of the ability for him to move in this space in the

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way that made him unique.

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It's really tragic on a kind of like, if it were a science fiction story.

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Right, right, right.

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If we're 1,000 light years away and we're reading about this story, despite the fact

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that he is clearly the villain, we go, aha, the irony of life and blah, blah, blah, blah.

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Yeah, yeah.

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Fuck him, I don't care.

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Exactly.

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I'm not sympathetic to it.

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Exactly.

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It's a good study.

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Yeah, yeah.

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It's kind of depressing.

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Yeah, yeah, yeah.

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Faust wasn't the good guy.

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No.

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No, no, no, no.

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So Alex, I mean, just like listen to this shit, this just makes you sad.

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Please remember, yeah, we had 14 million viewers just to our pre-dearing and post-debate coverage

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on X alone, amazing.

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Millions in info wars, millions on radio stations.

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I'd say, conservatively, 20 million people tuned in last night.

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I checked this morning, no extra money, regular sales, barely enough to pay the bills.

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I'm not bitching.

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These are great products.

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I need your support.

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Go to drjonesnaturals.com.

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Go to infowarstore.com.

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You need nitric boosts.

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You need X2.

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You need X3.

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What does that tell you?

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I mean, that should be all.

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Any advertising, marketing agency or anything would be like, well, we need to make a change.

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Yeah.

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We had 20 million people watching our show and it translated to no sales.

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You have to either conclude that this sucks and it's not working or these are fake people.

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These numbers aren't real or we're doing something bad.

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Yeah.

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No.

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I mean, when I first started doing the hearing aids way back when, they would do these direct

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mail campaigns, right?

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And the marketing people would show up and they'd show you the little postcard and they'd

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be like, this is the postcard that's getting our best response.

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Half a percent.

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And you'd be like, wow, that's the response.

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So you send out 20,000 and you get a half a percent and that's a real number.

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20 million.

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You should get a very real number out of it.

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Yes.

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Yes, you should.

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You are not getting a real number, which means the numbers are fake.

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It's all fake, man.

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Yeah.

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Even if your conversion rate is minuscule on 20 million viewers, you should see a considerable

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rise in sales.

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Absurdly huge.

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Yeah.

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And so something's wrong.

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Yeah.

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So that bummed me out and then this commercial that Alex played bummed me out even more.

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Ladies and gentlemen, this is hands down the most bad-ass truck in the world, a 2,024 AEB

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Dodge Prospector.

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This is my dream truck, but this truck won't belong to me.

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It's going to belong to you.

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The folks that visit the alexjones.com and enter to win for free by entering your email

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or when you buy products, they put you in five, 10 times in the raffle for this bad

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boy.

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I'm going to walk you through this, but this is hands down, look it up yourself, the most

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bad-ass truck in the world.

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It's a pretty bad-ass truck.

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Wow.

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He's doing a truck giveaway.

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I've never been in a business where they said, you know what, it was the raffle that really

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turned everything around for us.

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Yeah.

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We were on a real downward trajectory, so we all got into the room and had a big meeting

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and somebody was like, we should do a raffle.

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And I was like-

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How about we raffle off a bad-ass truck?

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That's, that's worked every time other businesses have tried it.

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You know, there's something about Alex that like, he comes from radio and so this feels

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like a local radio station.

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It really does.

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It feels sad.

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Yep.

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I don't know what to say.

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Yep.

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Yep.

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You're not supposed to be this man.

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No.

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You gotta, oh God, if you are, if you find yourself here, don't be here.

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Yeah.

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Go somewhere else.

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Do something else.

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It just stinks of a local radio.

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It's just, it's not, it's, it's, it's beneath what Alex pretends to be.

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And I thought it was very, very funny.

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Yeah.

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And I don't, I'm not knocking local radio.

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No.

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We both have, we would both be delighted to have our voiceover careers from 10 years ago

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start.

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And I lament the way that consolidation has ruined independent local radio stations.

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Totally.

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Totally.

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Or hindered them in a great way.

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Yeah.

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I love radio.

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He is the, he is the creation of that.

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I think the idea of a truck giveaway for a local station is fantastic.

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It's what you should be doing.

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That's great.

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For Alex, bummer.

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Yeah.

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He's supposed to be like God's chosen messenger on earth and he's doing a fucking raffle.

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There's a fine line between everybody put your hand on this truck and whoever's hand

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is there at the end gets to keep the truck and they shoot horses, don't they?

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Big difference.

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Maybe you just need to hear a little bit more about the truck.

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Maybe.

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When you enter to win this, you fund the info war and take it to the globalist.

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Now let's talk about this bad ass truck.

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This is a fricking monster.

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Now you're getting the colors I like the best.

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This dark green, this black, the red pinstripe.

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What really matters is the shocks, the giant tires, the engine.

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Now because one of you lucky people out there is going to own this truck, I'm not going

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to take it off road, but we've taken other ones off road.

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And believe me ladies and gentlemen, you don't need to tell me that.

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Look at this sexy monster, ladies and gentlemen.

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Just be that.

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Look at this sexy monster.

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Do that.

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Stop being the Alex Jones of the info wars guy and then just be the guy who's like, look

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at this big fucking truck.

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Yeah.

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Maybe you should just be a car dealer.

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That'd be great.

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That's where people like him have always meant to be.

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God, it just, it was, I got a little bit of whiplash from this commercial.

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Look at this sexy truck.

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That is so mad.

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That is fucking crazy.

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So we go back for a commercial.

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Sure.

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I got even more sad.

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Watch the rebroadcast later, you can't call in, but right now we'd love to hear from you

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on last night's debate and September 11th and how it changed our world.

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23 years later, that's a big place to go.

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Entire campaign, world war three on the table, forced injections, deadly MRA shots, and open

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borders and expanded human trafficking and criminals getting away with it all to give

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us the funding.

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We deserve it.

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I think we're delivering.

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I think we're delivering.

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I think we're delivering.

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Please support us back.

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Yeah, I would be too.

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I don't know if it gets better than that.

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I just don't know how to, I don't know how to, I don't know how to never forget more

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than that.

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Yeah.

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I thought I was hallucinating when I first heard that.

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I accidentally started playing a commercial.

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Alex recognizes it, loses his train of thought, and then is just mad.

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I mean, there's no, that's a genuine, you should be furious.

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Yeah.

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Just in the context of what you, what you're talking about, like September 11th being meaningful

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and all in another life, he would have stormed off the show, but I think the robot has taught

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him some patience.

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Oh, that's nice.

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He doesn't actually storm off the show.

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He's very polite and apologizes.

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He takes some calls and here's a one that's a real dumb.

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And another thing too, I want to bring up some of those questions like about her race,

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what race do you think she is?

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And like he said, nobody cares, nobody cares about stupidity like that.

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We care about, you know, turning this country around.

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I don't care if she's related to Barney the fricking dinosaur.

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We don't care about that one before.

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So that was just plain stupidity.

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Well, it's meant to be saying he's like racist.

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I mean, the woman is Indian.

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Her father, uh, was maybe careful.

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I did the numbers.

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I looked it up.

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He's the same amount of African, native American.

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So if my dad's like 13% and his dad was 30 something percent, which is a great way to

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describe this, that would make me six and a half percent and that's what she's three

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and a half percent black.

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I mean, I've done the numbers of the genealogy of her as well known and out there.

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So the only reason that the question was asked in the debate, uh, about this was because

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Trump said that Harris recently became black in an interview he did with the national association

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of black journalists at their conference.

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If Trump hadn't said what he said, there would be nothing to ask about.

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He it's his fault.

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He did this.

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Yeah.

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And Alex really isn't helping here.

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Trump's comments were that Harris became black, not that you became African, African American

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and black are not the same word.

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And Alex is asserting that Harris's father is not African to claim that he's not black,

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which is Alex intentionally playing games with words in order to make a racist point.

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Regardless Harris's father is Jamaican with African descent.

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So all this is just absurd levels of rationalization meant to slightly obscure these folks, fundamental

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racism that this world is based on and built upon.

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So that's fun.

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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I mean, I, I, it made sense, I guess, whenever people were like, let's stop using black.

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But in reality, black was the black is the correct word because it was never about like

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where you're from.

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It is just finding a reason to exclude and enslave all of these people.

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And skin color is a great one for this.

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You know, it has never been like, oh, well, we're, we're not, not from Egypt where we

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would say it's Africa, you know, not from, you know, they don't even know what is in

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Africa.

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It is just, it's just what it is.

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They're racist towards black people, black people.

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Yep.

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Yeah.

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They're trying to somehow intellectualize things.

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And it's just, all you have to do in this case is say like, wow, Trump really fucked

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up there.

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Yeah.

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Shouldn't have done that.

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Yeah.

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Hey, it's not easy or it's not difficult to not defend that even if you're Alex, but whoopsie.

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So earlier in the show, I didn't cut a clip of this and I kind of regretted in hindsight.

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Yeah.

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I started sort of riffing a song parody of karma chameleon.

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Sure.

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How does this get racist?

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So he was like, oh man, I got to write out those lyrics.

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No, I got to make, I got to make this cover of karma chameleon.

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And then this happened later.

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All right, we're going to post this on X.

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We'll make a music video out of it.

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Chase guys are so amazing.

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Like an octopus is doing so much work back there.

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And he heard me first hour, just off the top of my head.

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Just say those lines.

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He wrote that down, fed it into AI and said, rock and roll woman's voice.

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And 30 minutes later, we have this

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Whoa, it's so good, whoa it's so fun, whoa

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All right, that's great.

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But I did that off the top of my head.

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We need to come up with the rest of the song.

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Like gonna chop your son's penis off.

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Gonna cut your daughter's breast off.

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Gonna have Satanism at the super bowl.

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Gonna give you poison shots.

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Die, die, die.

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The chameleon's gonna kill you.

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And it's gonna be fun, fun, fun, something like that.

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Something like that.

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I'll write some lines up.

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Yeah, please do.

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Um, so yeah, I, I just, I struggle as somebody who's followed Alex's career.

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I struggle to hear that and not like, I don't understand why he's not mad about this.

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I am right.

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I hate it.

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I hate AI.

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I hate it.

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He should be furious about this bastardization and this parody of human creativity.

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Yeah, it's horrifying.

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Yeah.

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He should be, Chase should be out on his ass, thrown through the studio plate glass window

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quite frankly.

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Agreed.

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Get that fucking octopus out of here.

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Yes.

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Yeah.

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Yes.

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This is bad by your own rules.

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Yes.

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Why am I the one who is angrier about this?

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I was, I watched Waking Life not too long ago.

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Yeah.

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I had to revisit it and I had forgotten that Alex was in it when I started the movie and

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his scene came on and I was, I was really like taken back to seeing this for the first

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time, not knowing who he was.

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Right.

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And one of the things that he's screaming about is the creativity of the human spirit

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that will not submit.

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You know, and all this like going back to like the nineties, these are the kind of messages

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that were really important about like, about humanity's too good, you know?

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And now we have like, isn't it funny that this robot made a song in 30 minutes?

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I did this.

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I did something.

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I watched Ghost in the Shell.

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I rewatched Ghost in the Shell, the original 95 one, obviously the nineties where that's

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where we're living at these days, apparently.

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Sure.

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And it is like for all the themes about it, the thing that you will, that people tend

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to forget is like the idea is that the consciousness is searching for death because death is,

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is the way you validate existence, right?

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So that's the entire thing.

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And that the AI cannot die is the problem that the, the AI is not alive, you know?

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And that the AI can't emote.

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Yeah.

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Like you're creating a facsimile of the, whoa, whoa, or whatever.

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But that was supposed to be in the context of music, this expression of somebody feeling

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something.

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It is, it is not aesthetically pleasing.

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No.

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It is the, the lack of aesthetic pleasing that we are allowed to see the emotion within

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it.

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Otherwise we could have just had somebody who was very good at singing.

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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And this bums me out and it should bum out Alex.

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It should bum everybody out.

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We're in such a weird space where Alex is like, oh, isn't that fun?

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We can make song parodies faster.

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Yeah.

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I think we need to, Dan, I think it's you and me, we're leading the Butlerian Jihad.

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I think it's us.

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This is trash.

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I think we, I think all thinking machines have to die.

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So Alex takes a call from Twitter.

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Sure.

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He's also on Spaces.

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Of course.

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And this person's another idiot.

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Great.

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I wanted to really thank you.

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I happened to hop in right when you were touching on what's happening here in Springfield, Ohio.

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I'm about a county over.

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And no matter if the cat that was on the police video was killed by a woman here in Canton,

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Ohio, or if the geese were killed by migrants at the park.

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But no matter if some of the topics or the ways that stories were conveyed in the moment

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were off, the main thing is that we now have gotten the message out there that a town of

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what was 38,000 or maybe 40,000 has now had an increase of 20,000 people who are going

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to need assistance that the local community does not have to provide.

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And now I'm noticing when I've dealt with my and been in charge of my grandfather's

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disability and food stamps for the past couple of years, that this is one of the first months

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that he has not been, or that his payment is now five days late.

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Yeah, I mean, it's Cloward and Piven.

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They know bringing in 25 million illegals in just three and a half years is going to

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collapse the country.

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It's designed to do it.

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They admit that's their plan.

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So this caller really gets to the core of what the strategy is for these folks.

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And also you had a lot of confused looks on your face.

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I'm worried.

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Did you not hear about any of this stuff?

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No idea.

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Any context?

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No context at all.

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Okay.

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Well, feel free to ask questions as we go along.

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Okay.

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I'm essentially openly admitting that it doesn't matter if all that stuff about people's pets

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getting eaten was a lie because they accused Haitian immigrants of doing it, which drew

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spotlight to the fact that there's a bunch of immigrants in this town, which is apparently

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a problem.

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Right.

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Incidentally, it's not a problem.

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Springfield, Ohio's population has been increased considerably in the past few years due to

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an influx of migrants, but its economy has also improved along with it.

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As the economy has generally improved without the labor that these migrants provide the

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factories and industry in Springfield wouldn't have been able to operate the way that it

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has.

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So there's a lot being ignored.

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So what's going on here is that on May 18th, 2023, a 35 year old Haitian man drove a minivan

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into ongoing traffic, which ended up causing a bus to veer off the road.

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The ensuing crash killed an 11 year old child and injured 23 other kids.

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The man driving the bus was charged with involuntary manslaughter and vehicular homicide.

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Despite pleas from the deceased child's family, this event was used to stoke hatred towards

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the largely Haitian immigrant community there in Springfield.

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J.D. Vance has been an utter disappointment as Trump's VP choice and is from Ohio.

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In recent weeks, he's been trying to get some of that hometown cred in speeches and he's

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hit particularly on the subject of Springfield, Ohio multiple times, looking to inflame the

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feelings of resentment towards migrants exploiting the death of this 11 year old child.

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People are posting bullshit on social media blaming migrants for stealing and eating pets

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there, which is sort of working in concert with J.D. Vance's bringing up of Springfield

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and so people are trying to validate it with things like, someone ate a cat, it turns out

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it's not a migrant.

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It's all just a bunch of bullshit.

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Now Alex is pumping this up and Trump is repeating it aggressively on the debate stage.

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That's what Trump was talking about when he's like, they're eating pets.

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It's literally all xenophobia and racism and this color is a really great representation

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of how it doesn't matter to a believer whether something is true or not.

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He wanted to believe that immigrants were eating pets because he wants to demonize immigrant

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populations.

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He's gonna push the story that they're eating pets because it furthers that goal.

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Once it's a little too embarrassing to continue pushing the story that they're eating everyone's

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pets, he retreats to just saying, well, aren't there a lot of immigrants there?

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As if that's been his point all along.

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He points to his grandfather's supposedly late check, which if that story is even real

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has nothing to do with migrants in a different city and Alex thinks his granddad shouldn't

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be getting to begin with.

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The eating pets thing might have been bullshit but my grandpa's check is late and that's

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what this is really about.

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That's an unacceptable point and that's an unacceptable way to present your shit but

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that's exactly what this caller is embodying and that's how these games are played a lot

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of the time.

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Yeah.

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Yeah, that's so fucking, that sucks.

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Every part of that sucks.

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It's just trash.

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The willingness to be like, ah, maybe the whole story that we were telling isn't true

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but still that's just, come on guys.

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I mean, just fucking.

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Awful.

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No!

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How do you, how do you listen to somebody?

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I mean, it is like, sir, stop all of that, call the office and see where your grandfather's

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check is.

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That's it.

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Yeah.

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That's our conversation, sir.

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Everything else, shut the fuck up about.

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And I thought, like when I, the first time I listened through that clip, I thought he

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was saying this is the first time the check's ever been late but he didn't.

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No.

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He said this is one of the first times.

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Yeah.

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Yeah, yeah, yeah.

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It's like, it's not even a unique experience.

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What the fuck are you talking about, man?

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What is happening?

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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Like, there's just too much ability to say things and demand people hear them.

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Yeah.

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Like, people, like, just idiot shit is too available and that's, I don't know.

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What else is there to say?

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You know what else there is to say?

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What?

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Do you want a fucking sexy truck?

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I do.

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You know what?

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That actually has brightened my day.

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Yeah.

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I take back everything I've ever said about sexy trucks.

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I know a guy who could get you a sexy truck.

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I bet giving him my email address is a good idea.

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So here's where I was like, I heard that commercial for the sexy truck and I was like, this is

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pathetic.

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This is a real bummer.

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But then, a little bit later in the show, Alex has a guest on who's the guy who's giving

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away that sexy truck.

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Now I'm back in.

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And I started to understand what was happening there.

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So Alex talks to this guy.

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Okay.

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All right.

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Been working with Nate Hughes and his crew for a while.

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They're in Bentonville, Arkansas.

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They've got their own made in America knife company and t-shirts and everything else.

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When you go to the alexjonesstore.com, there's over 30 amazing t-shirts.

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They're the ones that designed the t-shirts for so many folks, the Hodge twins and Steven

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Crowder and so many others.

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They've got next level t-shirts.

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Ours are great.

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I designed them.

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So I'm gonna be quite honest.

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Most of our t-shirts are not this bad ass.

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Well, these are our t-shirts now, the alexjonesstore.com.

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We need funds to get more reporters back, to expand, to fight the tyrants.

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During this key election, look at those t-shirts.

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Look at if you're a TV viewer, if you're a radio listener, these are in stock.

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These are made right here in America, printed in Arkansas, ready to ship to you.

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And I help with some of the concepts on these, but their concepts are even better.

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These are bad ass t-shirts.

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So you get what's going on, right?

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Alex has got a new t-shirt guy.

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Yeah.

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He's trying to get all of the, like his supplement business is now his dad's supplement business.

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The clothing and apparel and all of that stuff is now this, but he needs to drive traffic

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over to this thing.

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And so we have the alexjonesstore is the URL for this guy's business that is totally separate

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for Alex.

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Completely separate.

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Totally separate.

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And they're giving away a truck in order for you to be lured into going and giving your

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email address and buying product to try and transition customers over to this.

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Yeah.

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You gotta off-ramp people.

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Yeah.

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No, it makes sense.

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It makes total sense.

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It's a great business move.

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It's painfully transparent.

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Yep.

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And I can't believe this is all legal.

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I can.

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Yeah, I guess so.

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Yep.

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So anyway, this guy is also his old knife guy.

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This guy is also his god damn it.

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Why won't anybody just do fucking limericks like they're god damn meant to?

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Right.

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You know?

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Yes.

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Sometimes it's like, just do fucking limericks.

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If Marty Schachter was giving away a sexy truck, perfect.

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Absolutely.

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Everything makes sense.

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And the world is a better place.

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Yes.

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But to Alex's knife guy, who's now his clothes guy, who's giving away a truck.

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And also...

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That could not be more of like a, hey, I've got my idiot brother to run this multinational

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corporation because he's absolutely not related to me in any way.

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Now, let me ask this question about your idiot brother.

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Yeah.

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Was he there on January 6th?

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And we're not gonna spend the whole show on this in this hour.

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We're gonna go to your calls on this basis because Nate Hughes is a patriot.

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He's a J-6er.

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He didn't want to get into it, but just like Owen, right now, he's facing prison time.

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So the owner of the company, he's trying to stop that, don't want to get into the case.

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But you did absolutely nothing, of course, just like Owen.

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And it's just all part of the dragnet, absolutely criminal in my view.

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But your whole company are patriots and it's full of veterans and you're just kicking ass

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and you've been doing a great job for so long and it's wonderful to be working with you.

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So Nate Hughes was a violent rioter on January 6th.

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Sure.

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He was on the edge of him fighting with the cops, wearing one of Alex's Space Force shirts,

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no less.

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Good.

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He attempted and failed to steal a cop's shield and was recorded yelling incitement towards

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his fellow rioters on multiple instances.

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Hughes is actually a living embodiment of the fact that Alex's version of the story

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on January 6th is full of shit.

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Hughes was doing things that Alex claims didn't happen.

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And on August 6th, just a little over a month ago, he pled guilty to one count of civil

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disorder, one count of assaulting, resisting, or impeding an officer, and one count of violent

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entry and disorderly conduct on Capitol grounds.

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He's set to be sentenced on November 15th, so you know he's hoping Trump wins or else

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he might end up getting some horrible punishment like probation.

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Yeah.

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I don't know.

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So anyway, he's a knife guy who's now a clothes guy who's giving away a truck, also is facing

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possible prison time for January 6th.

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What the fuck is...

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This is mad libs.

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I appreciate, I appreciate just how useless the legal system is.

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It's almost impressive at a certain point.

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Apparently, I mean this, just this moment, this snapshot is such an embodiment of that.

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It is just like, do you, do they get together and then like listen to this moment and go

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like, oh, I think we've done great.

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So this guy who tried to overthrow the government.

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Let's stop right there.

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In service of Trump who lost an election, while, you know, he violently tried to steal

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a cop's shield in the scuffle, so he, he pled guilty to that stuff.

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And now he's decided to create a shell business for Alex to sell merch through.

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See now, now after trying and failing to overthrow the country, he's going to steal money from

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the families of a dead child.

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Right.

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And take a cut.

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Take a cut.

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Yeah.

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Yeah, yeah, yeah.

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By using Alex's name.

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Right.

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And then the legal system is going to collect those fees, maybe billable hours.

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So now I think because they're talking about a sexy truck, I think that Alex might confess

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to something here that could be illegal.

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That's great.

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I don't know if there's going to be any consequences for this, but we'll see.

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You know, you go to the Alex Jones store.com, you support Alex, you get entered to win a

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truck.

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Like it, it's a win-win.

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It's fun.

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So it's very fun.

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Well, I just found the truck I want.

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Me too.

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I want it too.

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I'm kind of jealous.

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Well, but I'm not just saying this folks, I, you should, I've, because my, my Ford's

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got big tires and it's great and I put it through hell, but, and I even had the rear

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alignment fixed recently because it just rattles all over the road.

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I'd given the truck to my dad, but then with the bankruptcy stuff, he said, you can use

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the trucks.

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It's not even on my truck anymore.

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But the point is I love the old truck, had a lot of fun, but I got to get rid of it once

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I drove this.

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I don't know how it's so smooth.

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Did you give your dad a truck to shield it from bankruptcy?

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Yes, obviously.

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Uh, Alex, what are you talking about?

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Don't talk about giving away your assets in the context of a bankruptcy while you're on

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air doing something that's meant to shield assets from bankruptcy.

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I mean, I, you know, it is, it is like the, what keeps society together is we all just

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agree that if Alex doesn't say it out loud, maybe it's not true.

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But he did say it out loud.

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That's the problem.

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Now we all have to admit that the, that he's hiding his assets from the bankruptcy frequently

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saying this shit out loud and they are not doing anything about it.

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It's so it's fine.

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It's legal.

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It's wild.

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If I am shocked that everybody is not stealing shit all the time.

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So I don't know exactly how this business is set up because I didn't have a whole lot

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of time to look into it.

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It is just basically a Shopify sort of a online store or whatever.

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So in theory, I mean, enough pressure could be exerted on Shopify and this could be shut

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down because they, I imagine would not want to be associated with this very clear attempt

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on Alex's part to pivot customers from his business that is subject to bankruptcy over

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to a new dummy business.

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That's owned by a guy who tried to overthrow the government.

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Well.

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I'm not saying people who try to overthrow the government shouldn't be allowed to own

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stores.

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That's not what I'm saying.

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Who among us?

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Hey, listen, I'm closer to the overthrow the government side than not half the time.

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But I don't know if at the very least you should have to make your own store.

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It can't just be something that Alex gives you.

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I honestly think that trying to overthrow the government is more defensible than starting

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an online store for Alex Jones.

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I 100% agree with you.

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I think you could construct a much more sound ethical argument for overthrowing the government.

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We celebrate overthrowing the government once a year.

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Right.

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So until we celebrate Alex stealing money from tragic families, then yeah, I think it's

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worse.

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So anyway, I got to a point where I was like, click, I'm going to listen to Alex and this

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ding-dong talk about how great this truck is.

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The problem is I would listen to the commercial about, look at this sexy truck.

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Yeah.

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That's great.

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I would listen to that for half an hour.

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Alex just sort of sitting in the studio with this guy, trying to talk about the great truck.

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Not fun.

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No.

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And this is the day after the debate and the anniversary of September 11th.

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If I'm this guy, right?

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The only reason that this guy is the guy who's chosen is because he's the guy who's not going

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to be like, why'd you pick me?

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Right.

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Cause like if I'm, if Alex is like, Hey, I'm trying to hide money from these families.

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And you are conveniently going to be in prison.

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I would be like, why would you want, why do you think I would want to be involved in that?

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There are some uncomfortable questions that might be arisen.

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I get the whole idea that we could like in their world, they can be like, Oh, I'm hiding

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it from bankruptcy lawyers and all of that stuff.

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But like at the end of the day, you're stealing it from families of children.

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Yep.

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You're just a thief.

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Oh boy.

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Thief slash knife salesman slash shirt designer slash excuse me, sir.

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I know you have no morals, please.

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I'm setting up a store.

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I just, I can't, I can't find it within myself to understand that kind of a decision.

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Uh, but Hey, uh, they're going to make some bucks on some shitty hats and shirts.

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Best of luck to him.

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I guess whoever wins that sexy fucking truck.

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Oh, also $10,000 cash.

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I forgot about that part.

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Damn it.

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$10,000 cash and the sexy truck.

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That's the, what people are trying to win.

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Oh man.

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I kind of want that truck $10,000 put up by the shirt company Alex specifies, we're just

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robbing people.

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Feels like it.

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Yep.

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Yep.

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We'll be back with another episode with the other kind of honestly, the heights of the

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first, uh, robot interview and the ride that we took, I really felt at a low when we hit

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that third interview, I thought like, Ooh, I feel a little dirty.

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Now this, this is giving away a truck.

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You know, it's the problem.

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It's the problem with the roller coaster.

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We went up too high.

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We heard the chick, chick, chick, chick, and we were like, well, we're obviously going

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to stay up here forever.

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No, sir.

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Wrong.

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Nope.

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Now we're giving away a fucking truck.

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We'll see what happens with that.

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But until then we have a website.

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Yep.

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We'll be back.

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But, uh, tell that I'm Neo.

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I'm Leo.

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I'm DZX Clark.

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I am the mysterious professor.

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Woo.

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Yeah.

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Woo.

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Yeah.

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Woo.

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And now here comes the sex robot.

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Andy in Kansas.

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You're on the air.

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Thanks for holding.

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Hello Alex.

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I'm a first time caller.

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I'm a huge fan.