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I'm sick of them posing as if they're the good guys, saying, we are the bad guys, knowledge
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fight, knowledge fight, I'm sick of them posing as if they're the good guys, saying, we are
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the bad guys, knowledge fight, Dan and George, knowledge fight, Riddle Earth, Riddle Earth,
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need money, Riddle Earth, Riddle Earth, Riddle Earth, Andy and Candace, Andy and Candace,
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stop it, Andy and Candace, Andy and Candace, Andy and Candace, it's time to pray, Andy
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and Candace, you're on the air, thanks for holding us.
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Hello Alex, I'm a big fan, I'm a huge fan, I love your work, knowledge fight, knowledge
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fight dot com, I love you.
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Hey everybody, welcome back to Knowledge Fight, I'm Dan.
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I'm Jordan.
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We're couple dudes, I'd like to sit around and worship at the altar of Selene and talk
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a little bit about Alex Jones.
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Oh indeed we are, Dan.
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Jordan.
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Dan.
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Jordan.
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I have a quick question for you.
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What's up?
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What's your bright spot today, buddy?
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My bright spot today is, I'm not somebody who gets a lot of new clothes.
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Sure.
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You know, like on our tour, when we went out, it was kind of a joke bit thing that I got
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a new shirt, but it's not really, like I very rarely get new things.
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Yeah, no, you just really liked that shirt and it looked great on you.
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And now I have a bunch of them.
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Yeah, exactly.
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But, I got some new shoes.
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Okay.
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And I think I realized I've been wearing bad shoes for a long time.
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Because these ones have like a little bit of cushiony on the inside.
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Alright.
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Oh, they've even got a little thing.
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They feel better.
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Yeah.
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Well, maybe my shoes have sucked for a long time.
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So, that's a good thing to learn.
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Have you ever considered, like, the more we talk, have you ever considered that you just
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started playing life on hard mode from the jump and then forgot to like, you could adjust
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the difficulty?
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Well, I don't look at it as hard mode.
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I look at it more as like, you know, you're in maybe like one of these survival crafting
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games.
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Sure, sure.
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I get like the shoes that are just like, I don't know, some animal skin shoes or whatever.
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No, no, no.
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I know what you're saying.
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You have no reason to upgrade.
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Why would you?
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Why would you upgrade?
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Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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You didn't know there were better shoes.
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They're just something to put on my foot.
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I don't give a shit.
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And then you realize, oh no, these feel bad.
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Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.
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Yeah, I think there's a hundred things like that in my life.
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Could be.
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And so the shoes, we fixed that one.
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I like it.
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We're going through, I think, every single one of them, just slowly untying the Gordian
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knot that is the things that you forgot could be better.
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Ah, shit.
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Yep.
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What's your bright spot?
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My bright spot is, I'm going to have to go with tennis.
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Now, I'll tell you one thing about this tennis.
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All right.
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So US Open, it's from the United States.
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It's where the two letters at the beginning come.
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Right.
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This year for the first time in 20 years or whatever, there are Americans who are going
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to maybe win it.
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And that doesn't happen in tennis because of the three guys who are better than everybody
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ever.
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Uh-huh.
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But they're getting old.
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They're all old, so that whole generation that was squashed and strangled is now getting
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their chance to shine, right?
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Sure.
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But one of the people is a dude named Francis Tiafoe, or Tiafoe, I don't know, and he's
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awesome.
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He's great.
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Grew up, broke, dad worked at a tennis place, grew up just hitting tennis balls against
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the wall, became something awesome, did the whole thing.
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He's great, right?
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He's had a rough couple of years because he got pretty famous.
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He did a lot of good stuff.
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And then he starts hanging around with, you know, like Steph Curry and LeBron James and
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stuff.
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Oh.
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Right?
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I thought you were going to say a bad crowd.
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No, no, no.
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But for a tennis guy, it's a bad crowd because they're like, hey, man, you got to step it
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up.
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You got to put all this pressure on you.
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But they're team guys, you know?
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They can put pressure on themselves because there's other dudes around them.
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When you're playing tennis, it's just you.
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So you can't be playing tennis and then be like, Steph Curry would be mad at that shot?
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What am I doing with my life, right?
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I could see how that would get in your head.
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Yeah, it gets in your head.
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So he's had a struggle, but in the past few months, kind of figured it out.
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Kind of figured out.
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So now he's in the semi-finals of the US Open.
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Against Pete Sampras.
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Against Taylor Fritz, who's another American.
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But he and the other two Americans on the women's side, Jessica Pagula and Emma Navarro
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and Taylor Fritz, well, first off, Navarro and Pagula, billionaire daughters.
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Rich fucks.
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Oh, I thought you meant they have billionaire daughters.
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No, they are daughters of billionaires.
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Okay.
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Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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So they can go fuck themselves.
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Doesn't tennis, more so than other sports, except for golf, it seems like there's a high
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incidence of the affluent.
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But then again, tennis is something you can play if you're rich or if you have nothing.
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Right.
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So it kind of has the most extremes, whereas golf is less that.
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You have to dedicate literally everything to it.
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And so you can only do that if your parents are rich enough to just say, fine, go do that.
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Or if your parents are willing to sacrifice for you.
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Right.
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So we've got two daughters of billionaires.
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And that's why they can go fuck themselves.
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Taylor Fritz, another rich kid.
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Francis TFO, buddy.
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He's coming for it.
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All right.
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That's my bright spot.
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He's going to win the US Open.
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I'm pulling for him.
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Yep.
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On your behalf.
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Thank you.
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And on behalf of all poor people everywhere.
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That's what I'm saying.
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So yeah, I hope that goes great.
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I'm sure it will.
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Pete Sampras.
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He's all right.
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So we got an episode to go over, Jordan.
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Yeah.
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Gotta say, I've been struggling.
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I think we hit a culmination on our last episode.
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With the Chad GPT?
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Yeah.
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It's tough to beat that.
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I honestly think there may be nothing better than that.
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I obviously feel like, you know, whenever you see greatness, you didn't know greatness
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was coming.
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No.
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No, no, no, no.
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And you can feel like after you've witnessed greatness, like Michael Jordan, his next game
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after the flu game.
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Was it that good?
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I don't know.
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We don't remember it.
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It was all right.
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Right.
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Exactly.
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What are we going to do after Alex's fucking Chad GPT episode?
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I genuinely don't know.
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How do you follow it?
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Exactly.
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Yeah.
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We have to smooth back into things.
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There's almost a feeling of like, I wish that was episode 1000 and then we could mysteriously
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disappear.
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That would be great.
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Right?
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We're just suddenly in the woods 10 years later.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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That's how it would be.
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Yeah.
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But unfortunately, or fortunately, whatever.
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Whatever.
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That's how it would be going.
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Okay.
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And so today we're going to be talking about September 4th, 2024 on Alex's show.
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See how he decides to go about his life after interviewing a robot.
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How does he not know that that was a watershed moment too?
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I don't know.
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It was just a day for him.
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Yep.
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It was just a day.
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It's one of the stupidest things that anyone's ever put on television.
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Anywhere.
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And just so good.
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I mean, sometimes when you stop and think about Pompeii, and you think about how people
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had dick jokes on the wall that were preserved for millennia, but what if this goes away?
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What if chat GPT talking to Alex doesn't last as long as a dick joke in Pompeii, man?
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It's a Mona Lisa, really, of... I don't know.
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Anyway, we'll see what he does today.
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But before we do that, let's say a little hello to some new wonks.
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Oh, that's a great idea.
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So first, sauce is free, but pies you gotta pay for.
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Thank you so much.
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You're now a policy wonk.
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I'm a policy wonk.
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Thank you very much.
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Thank you.
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Next, Knowledge Fight got me through too much accounting, and now my brain is cooked.
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Thank you so much.
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You're now a policy wonk.
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I'm a policy wonk.
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Thank you very much.
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Thank you.
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And chicken fried steak visions.
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Thank you so much.
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You're now a policy wonk.
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I'm a policy wonk.
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Thank you very much.
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Thank you.
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And we got a technical credit in the mix, Jordan.
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I'm a policy wonk.
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Four stars.
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Go home to your mother and tell her you're brilliant.
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Someone sodomite sent me a bucket of poop.
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Daddy shark.
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Bomp, bomp, bomp, bomp, bomp.
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Jar Jar Binks has a Caribbean black accent.
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He's a loser, little titty baby.
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I don't want to hate black people.
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I renounce Jesus Christ.
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Thank you very much.
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So I thought I'd play a little out of context drop here because Alex, I believe, was one
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of the most unintentionally funny things I've ever seen on his Saturday show talking to
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a robot.
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Yeah.
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He was getting mad.
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He was trying to lure it in ways that you might a human.
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Yep.
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It was very unintentionally hilarious.
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And so he's talking here in this out of context drop about Kamala Harris being the most unintentionally
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funny person.
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Here we go.
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I said Biden was the greatest unintentional comic, but they say when it rains, it pours.
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You might go a lifetime and never see an additional comic this good.
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Kamala has now topped Biden as the greatest living unintentional comic on earth.
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And what makes it even better is she has no idea how stupid she sounds.
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Just remarkable.
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Wow.
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You know, you know, I mean, ah, how do, how do, how do we all go through life sometimes?
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You know, that's the whole stop and smell the roses thing.
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My man, that works both ways.
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You got to stop and smell that you're covered in shit.
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Uh huh.
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Yep.
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You have no idea.
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You have no idea.
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So Alex starts off the show here on September 4th with, uh, I believe I get a sense of fake
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enthusiasm about the election.
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Okay.
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Infowars.
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Tomorrow's news today, we got a transmission for you lined up today.
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It's Wednesday, September 4th, 2024, and I'm coming to you to the worldwide freedom and
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who want to fight tyranny and we are coming to you from deep in the heart of Texas broadcasting
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worldwide on the September 4th, 2024 Wednesday transmission.
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Only 61 days, 14 hours, 52 minutes, 57 seconds left to the most important election in world
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history.
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You can cut the suspense in the air with a knife.
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My friends.
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I don't feel like you can.
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Nope.
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I don't feel like you can cut the suspense in the air with a knife.
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I think almost everybody has made their decision.
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Yeah.
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I find it fascinating to look at any, like anytime I even open up the internet where
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people are trying to make it, they're trying to tell me like, Oh, this is, Oh, they're
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changing in the polls and all that.
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And it's like, I think everybody has a financial incentive to want there to be something going
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on.
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I don't mean to minimize the importance of the election or anything like that, but I
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do think that I can't really imagine too much undecidedness if it happened today or if it
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happened 61 days from now, it'd be the same shit.
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I think so.
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I think that that is, I don't feel like a knife suspense and I don't feel it from Alex
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either.
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I feel it faked by Alex.
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Yeah.
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I feel like everybody's just like, God damn it.
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Just get us to 62 days so we don't have to give a shit about this.
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It'd be nice.
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Yep.
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Um, we got a top story.
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Uh, this is very important stuff.
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Okay.
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There it is.
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Jack Posobick just posted on X.
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I've reposted that real Alex Jones breaking Tim Wall's entire family endorses president
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Trump.
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The entire family of Tim Walls, the corrupt communist Chinese agent, tampon Tim, his entire
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family have endorsed Trump and are set to now do interviews all over the place.
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Probably even here, the people are with Trump.
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Wow.
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That's a, this is a big news.
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Jack Posobick tweeted something.
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Sure.
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Sure.
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So there's a photo that was posted on social media purporting to be Tim Walls's family
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posing in front of the Trump flag with Trump shirts and all that Alex and many others have
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reported this as Walls's whole family supports Trump.
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But the AP looked into it and it turns out that these are some distant relatives.
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The picture, uh, the people in the picture are reported to be quote descendants of Francis
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Walls who was brother to Tim Walls, his grandpa, Tim's sister, Sandy said, quote, we weren't
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close with them.
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We don't know them.
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No shit.
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We didn't know that.
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Anytime you have family that involves the word descendants, you don't know them.
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No, no.
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Obviously every family has different levels of connectedness, but if I were Walls in this
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situation, the people in that picture would be complete strangers to me.
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I have no idea if my grandparents even had siblings except for my Mennonite grandma because
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she was in a singing group with her sisters that I've heard about my whole life.
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See, that's great.
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That's it.
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That's great.
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I don't, I honestly don't know.
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I think, uh, uh, one of the nicest things that my dad ever did for me was cut off contact
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with his extended family when I was born.
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I just, I just have no idea.
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Yeah.
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I don't, I'm trying to think, does my dad have uncles?
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A few maybe.
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I don't know.
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I went, I re no, like I remember going to my dad's side of the family's like holidays
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less than four times in my entire life and every single time was horrendous and it was
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like, and he, he got it.
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He was like, yeah, these people suck.
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And then we just moved on with our lives.
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I know that I went to some and I'm sure I've met a lot of family members, but a lot of
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them have just stuck out in my head as like, that's an old person, my parents know maybe,
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maybe that's a, yeah, anyway, to me, this kind of thing being a top story on Alex's
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show is not a good sign for the election.
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There's no substance to this attack and it's really easy to flip it around by pointing
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to Trump's niece, Mary Trump, or a new book that was written by his nephew, Fred, which
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suggests that Trump is a racist piece of shit.
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These people are far more closely related to him than folks who were in that photo that
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are to Tim walls.
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I just, and it doesn't matter.
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No, it'd be, I, I just think it's very funny.
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The idea of descendants just being like Tim wall's whole family, descendants of his great
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grandfather.
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Okay.
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All right.
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All right.
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How far are we going to go back?
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I like to create purpose and a meme.
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Once you, once you start there though, you have to accept any, any possible ending on
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the timeline.
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So like anywhere you go back, it counts.
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This guy related to Hitler, Hitler's entire family hated Hitler.
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So this was the top story now.
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And I thought like, uh, yeah, we just did an interview with chat GPT and you're sitting
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here and telling me about walls, his family taking a picture of the Jack Pacific tweeted.
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Yeah.
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And then Alex said this.
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All right.
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All right folks.
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I'm going to interview chat GPT live today.
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I did it Saturday for an hour and we taped it to air.
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It was like we were live, but it was taped in case there were any problems.
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It glitched out a couple of times and hung up on me cause it can answer my questions,
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but we just left it all there.
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We didn't edit it other than to throw some promos on the front and back today will be
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live cause we're live right now at 11 14 central time and next hour I'm going to interview
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chat GPT supposedly the best open AI in the world because it would tell me the weather.
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It would tell me about Democrats, but it wouldn't tell me really about Trump.
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It said Trump, there was no attempted assassination.
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It also said Tim walls was not the VP candidate and it said because it's not been updated
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in months, but it admitted it's updating in live time on the internet and knows the weather.
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So Alex is misrepresenting his Saturday interview and you can tell from how he's discussing
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it that it didn't go how he wanted it to go.
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Alex wants the story to be that the AI can tell you about the Democrats, but not Trump.
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But then as he's saying it, he remembered that it didn't know about walls either.
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So this narrative really doesn't make any sense.
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The obvious reality is that Alex is using or was using an older version of chat deep
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GPT and even a newer one would have difficulty with real time and recent news stories.
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Instead of recognizing and discussing this, Alex needs to find a suspicious explanation.
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His preferred version is that they're censoring stuff about Trump and showing a bias for the
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Democrats, but since he's failed to demonstrate that the next best option is whining about
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how it could tell you the weather, but not the news.
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The robot explained to Alex why it can't do this in their last interview.
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There are consistent regular empirically based places that you can source weather information
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from.
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So a chat bot can be trained to reliably gather that information from those places, even if
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it's recent or up to date.
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Other sorts of information aren't based on measurements like the weather is, so it's
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way harder to train a chat bot to know where to get that authoritative empirical information.
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You could give it different sources that would have different weights in the results based
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on general credibility, but that's still a messy system that could go way off and you
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could game that pretty easily too.
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So there's a reason that these types of information are different.
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The bot explained it to Alex in their last interview, and now he's going to do another
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interview.
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So we're going to talk to the robot again.
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I like it.
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Yeah.
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What was...
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Okay, so we've got Ali versus Frazier, one, right?
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And then three was the rumble in the jungle, right?
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Yeah.
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What was the second one?
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I don't know.
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Damn it.
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We got to ask AI.
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Why don't we know these things that happened from years before, decades before we were
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born?
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Well, I do think this is a situation where it might be that curse of, may you have what
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you wish for?
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Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
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Because on our last episode, I was very...
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You were like, let's do this all the time.
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Yes.
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Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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And when I heard him say, I'm going to interview this robot again, I got pretty excited.
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Right.
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And it might not have as much potential as I thought.
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It is still pretty fucking funny and it does go off the rails in some ways, but Alex prepared
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for this more than he did the last time.
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I don't even know what to...
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I don't even know what that means.
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I don't know what that means.
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I think it's...
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Did he do two fake debate questions with Chase?
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Like Chase, okay.
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You act like chat GBT did, like, yeah.
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I think Chase might've workshopped some questions of how the program will answer you.
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So Alex knows a little better that time.
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Interesting.
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Interesting.
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He's got a machine partner slightly better, but still not very well.
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It's like he's being trained on how to be a man by a machine.
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It's close.
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So I think Alex might've been a little unprepared for the show today.
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Yeah.
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I got here.
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I got ready for the show this morning, but I got here a little late today because our
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enemies keep me distracted with fighting to keep us on air.
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And I'm not at liberty to talk about the latest attacks yet, but when I do, I will talk about
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it and it is going to be spectacular.
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But now is not the time to talk about that.
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Let's just say our friends at the justice department and CIA or the democratic party
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are very little busy beavers.
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And if they're doing all this to us, let me tell you, they're doing it to people like
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Trump and Tucker Carlson big time and everybody else I know.
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But we don't spend a lot of time on that because they want to divert us off of it.
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But I literally slid in the chair five minutes before the show here, so I didn't have time
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to review everything.
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I looked at Moses before I got here, but then I'm like all these stacks, normally you see
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these stacks are all spread out and I've gone through all of them and didn't have time to
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do that today.
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So I've got a lot on my plate here.
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This is a really long winded way for Alex to say that he didn't pretend to look through
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the paper on the front of his desk before the show.
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He's just unprepared.
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And I suspect the reason that he was busy before the show had something to do with the
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DOJ indicting the heads of Tenet Media for taking approximately $10 billion from Russian
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agents working through RT to produce pro-Russia content for Western audiences.
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Tenet Media hosts a bunch of folks who were in Alex's orbit like Benny Johnson, Tim Pool,
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Lauren Southern, Taylor Hansen and Dave Rubin.
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The show that Tim Pool did for Tenet that was on Tenet was called The Culture War and
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Alex was one of the early guests on it.
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So he has some connection, tenuous as it may be, Benny Johnson's been on Alex's show.
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There are connections.
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The indictment is pretty grim for all parties involved.
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The founders of Tenet, Lauren Chen and Liam Donovan, presented a Russian state actor who
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was funding their project as a fictional person named Edward Gregorian, who was in banking
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and totally not with the Russian government.
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At this point, I should point out that Lauren Chen is not a name that we've talked about
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that much, but she's someone who is pretty big in this kind of fake iconoclast space.
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She created a fan base under the name Roaming Millennial and made appearances in a bunch
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of corners of the right-wing media.
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The DOJ indictment alleges that her funding and working surreptitiously for the Russian
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government dates back to that period in time, from about March 2021.
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It's claimed that she knew she was being paid by people who she called, quote, the Russians,
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who then enlisted her to find talent for a media outlet, which eventually became Tenet.
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As the project came together, Chen tried to recruit Benny Johnson and Tim Pool.
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Her handler said that they needed a face for the project and, quote, for the right candidate
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were willing to pay around $1 to $2 million a year.
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Chen found some interest from Johnson and Pool, but warned the fake person Gregorian
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that they, quote, would need closer to $5 million yearly for him to be interested of
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Johnson, and, quote, it would take $100,000 per weekly episode for him to be interested
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of Tim Pool.
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She went on to say that, quote, from a profitability standpoint, it would be very hard for us to
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recoup the cost for the likes of them based on ad revenue from web traffic or sponsors
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alone.
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Unsurprisingly, Gregorian told her, quote, we would love to move forward with them anyway,
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because of course, it's not about money.
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Yeah, I...
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We're throwing money at these ding dogs.
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Crazy.
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Yeah.
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I have no idea how it's all going to shake out, but from reading the indictment, it's
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tough to imagine that Chen and Liam Donovan didn't know that they were working for who
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they were working for and that this was illegal.
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There's a bit more plausible deniability you can extend to folks like Tim Pool, but this
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is kind of the problem to begin with.
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He was willing to take $100,000 per episode from a source that ended up being Russian
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agents because he was willing to take $100,000 per episode and didn't care where it came
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from.
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He was going to make the same videos.
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Sure.
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It's like Alex worked for COVID-19.
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He worked for it, but he did it for free.
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My problem here is they should have charged more.
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What are you talking about?
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10 million is it?
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I disagree with that.
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I think the problem is that they would accept it.
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I will make this show and I would do it no matter what, but if someone came to me and
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was like, we're going to give you $100,000 an episode or $10,000 an episode, I would
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say no.
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Right.
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Yeah, no, that's the idea.
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What are you doing?
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Yeah.
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What are you doing?
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Right, but they're scammers.
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Right.
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They're doing a bad job of what they're good at.
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No, I'm saying it's bad luck that these were Russian government agents.
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Yes.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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But this is the problem to begin with.
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Totally.
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There's a central core problem with how these people operate.
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I agree with you 100%.
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And it is unfortunate for the scam people that this one's bad.
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I mean, yeah.
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It could have easily just been some kind of coke-funded thing that like, oh, that's not
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illegal for us to do this.
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See, that's the problem.
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That's exactly it.
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That's your point entirely.
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90% of the time, it's going to be some right-wing billionaire-
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Who cares if it's Russians?
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Right.
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Yeah.
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What matters is they were going to make this shit for money.
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Oh, so we have the opposite problem.
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Yeah.
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I was saying that 90% of the time, it's not going to be Russians and that's still a problem.
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Right.
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Yeah, exactly.
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Okay.
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So maybe we're making the same point differently.
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100% of the time, it's not a good idea to be in bed with either of those people.
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Yeah.
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It's their business model.
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Yep.
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So I wouldn't be too surprised if Alex was handling some calls about this before the
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show.
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Not because I think he's mixed up in any of this particular plot, but because a ton of
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the people in his media space are, and because Alex has made a habit of doing things like
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interviewing Russian arms dealers lately.
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So I don't know.
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Maybe he could... There's something weird though.
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Yeah.
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I mean, see, this is what I'm saying.
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If I'm Alex, again, if I'm Alex, if I'm you or me, I go, ha ha ha, this is why we don't
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do any of that bullshit, right?
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But if I'm Alex, I'm going, why have I been interviewing this Russian guy for free?
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What is wrong with me?
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There's millions of dollars that they're willing to piss away on nothing.
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Yeah.
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Or there's more to come.
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Yeah.
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There could be... I wouldn't have that... I didn't have any information that Tim Pool
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was getting paid $100,000 an episode by a group that traces back to the Russian government.
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I didn't know that until this indictment happened.
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It's entirely possible that there's some weird Byzantine chart that explains Alex getting
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money from somebody.
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God.
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I don't want to know how much money those people actually make.
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If Tim Pool's negotiating is like $100,000 per episode on something that he doesn't give
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a fuck about...
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That's nuts.
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I do not want to know how much money these people have.
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I think they're making sick money.
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I think they're making absurd money.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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So Alex covers a clip of Kamala Harris talking, and he presents it as she's talking about
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Elon Musk having Twitter banned in Brazil.
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Right.
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And it is not that.
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Okay.
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It's about Trump being kicked off Twitter way back.
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Right.
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And so Alex, he covers this clip twice incorrectly.
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Sure.
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And then he corrects himself because someone came in, I think, and told him like, hey man,
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that's not what that clip was.
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Right.
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And so this launches him into a diatribe about how CNN doesn't correct themselves.
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Okay.
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I correct myself.
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All right.
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Here we go.
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I'm so good at corrections.
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Of course he is.
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But they're, they're so caught in that mindset, old people, particularly, not all of them,
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but a lot of them that they still think that brings authority.
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It doesn't.
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What brings authority is being accurate over time.
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And with that brings big audiences.
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Whereas they're trying to deceive their audience.
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We're trying to tell the truth.
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We make a mistake.
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We tell you like that was everywhere that she said that about Elon Musk and she said
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similar things.
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The career runs in and goes, actually, it was her calling for him to Trump to be banned
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in 2019.
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And they got him banned, remember?
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And so we correct it.
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They don't do that.
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They, they get things wrong on purpose and they do it constantly.
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And I know I'm beating a dead horse here, but
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sometimes we'll call a guest and I'll say, Hey, I want you on, sorry, I can't go on CNN
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sending a car.
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I'm going to be on CNN in two hours when a big event happens and I'm like, okay, you
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know, you know that that has a smaller audience than us.
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Well, but you know, I, it's the prestige though.
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Why you were on some midday CNN show with 300,000 viewers, whoa, wow.
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That's amazing.
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And you want to talk to the type of zombies that watch that show.
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Here's the key.
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I mean, I've been like a 10 minute diatribe on this.
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I'm going to put bookends on it right now.
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The Mitch McConnell's to a total extent, the Joe Biden's and the Donald Trump's to a certain
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extent, they still care what's in the New York times.
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They still care what's in the Washington post.
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They still care what's on CNN or ABC news, ABC nightly news used to have 30 million viewers
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at its peak for decades.
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And then after were CBS and NBC close seconds and thirds, but the three networks together
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at their peak every night had upwards of a hundred million people watching when it was
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a big event, 200 million.
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And all these old people still think it's relevant.
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I think Alex cares so much about this.
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He's yelling about how all these old people don't get it in the, you know, this is old
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dinosaur media and all this.
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He's mad.
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Like what's behind this.
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It feels almost personal.
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Oh yeah.
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On some level.
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So you're bringing up this example of someone wanting to go on CNN instead of going on his
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show.
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Right.
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And first of all, I'm asking myself, who the fuck could that even possibly be?
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No idea.
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I don't know what kind of guest crossover there is between Info Wars and CNN.
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I don't know.
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But the story at its core is about rejection.
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The story is about this person choosing to be on CNN instead of coming on his show, right?
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Because there's inherently more respectability and credibility than going in front of that
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small audience than Alex's hypothetically larger audience.
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Right.
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Right, right, right.
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And that sucks.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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He shouldn't take it personally.
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Probably not.
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You know, like, I mean, the last time we did that show, you know, like the experience I
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think was enjoyable, but at the end of it I was left with the only reason I should have
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been there was to say Congressman Joe Walsh is a trash dick.
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And you failed your mission.
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And I failed.
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And it was like, I am also resentful of CNN, but for my own fault.
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Yeah, that was you.
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That was me.
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Yeah.
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I don't know.
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It's just, there's something that's sticking out in this instance more than some others
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of that, like, this is about you, man.
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Yeah.
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This is about your feelings.
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You care a lot about the mainstream media.
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Yeah.
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And I think I figured out what it is.
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Okay.
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I think Alex is mad that Trump won't come back on his show.
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But still he's trying to get on Fox, trying to get on CNN.
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Did you hear him?
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Well, maybe they're not as relevant as they used to be.
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I don't know.
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Well, you need to figure it out real quick, Trump.
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Why haven't you been back on with Elon Musk, Trump?
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Oh, well, it was so successful.
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You know, this time I only get 500 million views.
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Okay.
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We'll go do 50 other mainstream media interviews and, and, and, and get a hundred million.
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I mean, it's just, it's crazy.
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It's like he's shooting at the globalist with a 22 handgun when he could have a giant cannon
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howitzer shooting, you know, a hundred millimeter giant shells out of it politically.
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Oh my God.
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We're going to interview chat GPT.
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I have no idea how bad it was when I interviewed it last Saturday, we're gonna do this live
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coming up.
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That's some other news.
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Obviously there's a lot of it I haven't gotten to wait till you see now that it's willing
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gains is taking over houses, apartment complexes from Connecticut to California, from Illinois
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to Texas.
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And they're, they're robbing people on camera, breaking their houses, shooting people.
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And they have the police there in Denver going, Hey, we don't even arrest him.
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If they, if they, if they are, we think they're a murderer.
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They're allowed to be murderers in our town.
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Yeah.
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So it really just feels like Alex is mad that Trump won't come back on the show, but he'll
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go on mainstream outlets.
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I can understand feeling snubbed, but we still got a while before the election.
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Like Trump might pull out a desperation hail Mary and come back around.
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I mean, if anything, it makes more sense to go on Infowars at this point, right?
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Like everybody's really redoing 2016 again to a creepy extent.
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So fuck it.
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You know, lean in.
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There's a part of it too, that is like, ah, yes.
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Why would someone choose a handgun over a howitzer metaphorically?
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So many reasons.
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Well, one is that, um, the howitzer is pointed at a bunch of fake shit, like robots and one
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of whom you're going to interview.
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Well, I mean, I think another is just a howitzer is a very big gun and a handgun is a very
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small gun and they each have their own purposes in terms of gun usage.
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Yeah.
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Right.
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And the, the howitzers bullets are fake.
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Yeah.
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Uh, but oh, well, Alex is, uh, like you hear that stuff about the Venezuelan gangs.
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Are you aware of this story?
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No, but I've heard people write Venezuelan gangs and then the moment they do that, I
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go, they're not there.
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So I go away.
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Interesting.
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Your impulse, your instinct.
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Yeah.
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So for a few days, Alex has been reporting on this story out of Colorado, about how Venezuelan
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gang has taken over an apartment complex and the police can't stop them.
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It's like a full on seizing of territory in Alex's version of the story.
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And it sounds really, really scary.
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Yeah.
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In the real world, it turns out that there's this complex in Aurora, Colorado called the
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edge at Lowry apartments.
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And after the police looked into some of these salacious claims that were going around, they
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found that a gang had not actually taken over the apartments and turned it into their headquarters.
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The police said, quote, we've been talking to the residents here and learning from them
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to find out what exactly is going on.
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And there's definitely a different picture.
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It appears that there are some gang members who live in the complex possibly, but they
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weren't running it and extorting all of the other people there.
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What it appears is that there's a shitty landlord who owns the complex and they've been exploiting
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the immigrant tenants and have been blaming the shitty conditions of their units on exaggerations
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of gang activity.
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What?
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Denverite spoke to the people living there and reported, quote, we learned the apartment
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buildings have been in terrible shape for years and still are.
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Many residents say they're not scared of gangs, instead saying that they fear the owners of
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the complex.
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Yeah.
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Yep.
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I'll just read to you here from this Denverite article.
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Quote, for years, residents of several of these buildings have complained about rat,
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mice and insects, concerns over crime and poor treatment by management.
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All that predates the arrival of tens of thousands of Venezuelan immigrants in the Denver area.
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For the past two years, Aurora has been working to get the property owners into compliance
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with the law, said Jessica Prosser, Aurora's director of housing and community services
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at a press conference in August.
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Many newly arrived Venezuelans and other Spanish speaking immigrants were placed into those
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apartments by nonprofits.
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Those homes, as uninhabitable as many of the units may be, are among the few that are affordable
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to newly arriving immigrant families.
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So while it does appear that there is a gang presence in Aurora and maybe even some crime
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at this complex, what seems to be happening is that the landlords in New York who are
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already facing legal actions from the city because of their negligence and mismanagement,
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they are making these stories up.
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It appears that they've decided to use the immigrant population their slumlords over
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as a scapegoat.
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And because a lot of the right wing is fueled by xenophobia and racism, it's working.
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And when I call those folks slumlords, I'm quoting the mayor of Aurora.
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I'm not quoting, I'm not, I'm not, that's not a characterization I'm making up myself.
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That is that, you know, it's, it's a good thing that I avoid that story because that
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may be the perfect encapsulation of America in the current moment.
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Rich people are telling you to be afraid of outsiders because the only thing you should
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be afraid of is the rich people next to you.
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Well, it's the same thing kind of as like, it has the same vibe as the caravans, you
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know, that are coming and just smash at the border.
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Look out there, they're coming, they're coming as I steal from you and ruin your life.
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Yeah.
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And you know, obviously I don't think that everyone has all of the details about this
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story, but it is absolutely from everything I can tell, not gangs taking over buildings.
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If there was, if there's like, if you see, oh, an artist collective has taken over an
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abandoned building and refurbished it into something, then the people who used to own
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that building and didn't give a fuck about it will release a story about how communists
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are going to burn down your city unless we get to get that building now that it's worth
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something back.
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Like, that is what we do with rich people.
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We need some sort of rent out of this.
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Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
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That's them.
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Uh, Alex talks to a chat GPT and um, it's, it's, it's so good to see them back together.
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Good.
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It really is.
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Okay.
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So it got a lot of attention Saturday, more than I thought it would.
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I thought it would be interesting.
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It was way crazier than I thought.
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I interviewed for close to an hour, open AIs, chat GPT, this hundred million dollar company
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stop suppose the software and I said, tell me about the attempted assassination of president
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Trump on July 13th in Butler, Pennsylvania, and it said that it's not credible.
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No credible media says that happened.
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And now of course we'll play this clip in a moment and then we'll start talking to chat
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GPT again.
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I feel like Alex thinks he's going to talk to the same thing.
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You know what I mean?
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He absolutely does.
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Yeah.
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No, I think he thinks there's continuity.
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Yeah, absolutely.
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And that's weird.
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I'm, I'm, I'm gearing myself like, here's what I'm doing mentally.
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I'm gearing myself up with all the armor that I have that will allow me to say at the end
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of every conversation or at the end of exchange is like, one of these people is a person and
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one of them is not real.
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And one of them is convinced that the other one is real and the other one is not real.
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Right.
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It does feel like Alex would respond because it's the same voice.
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I think he would respond as buddy.
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Even, even if he, even if he thinks that it's not real by his behavior, you know, he does.
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He thinks he's talking to something real.
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He thinks it's not real wink.
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Exactly.
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Exactly.
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You can't convince me.
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You don't think that's a real thing, right?
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It's just like, Hey, this guy who sounds like Elon Musk, he's not really, wait, wait, stop
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it.
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Tell me the truth.
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So a Drudge, uh, put out a link to Alex's last interview with chat GPT Alex thinks maybe
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that's a sign that he's a good guy.
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Sounds good.
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So, uh, chase geysers in the control room.
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We've got this jury rigged, uh, in so that we can interview chat GPT of open AI Drudge
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report link to our story about it yesterday.
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We appreciate Drudge.
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Is that like a signal Drudge?
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You're still in control of it.
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We, we loved you in the old days, Drudge, but thanks for the link that that's always
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spooky.
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Uh, so, uh, but, but let's go ahead and now demonstrate this with some other questions.
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I didn't look it up, but it would be great if the link on Drudge was Alex Jones looks
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like an idiot trying to interview, totally, totally.
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Maybe it's a secret signal.
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What's Drudge look like now?
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Is it still look like a, the same thing?
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I think so.
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Well, it's fun.
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Yeah.
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I think it's the same controlled by John Podesta and the Clinton operation now because whatever
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who cares shifting allegiances are fun.
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Exactly.
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So Alex has a, actually chase comes in with the first question and right out of the gate,
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I'm like, Oh no, this is good.
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They're just going to turn this segment into like right wing meme bait.
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Oh no.
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Chase.
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We also have some great questions that were sent by viewers that we posted on real Alex
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Jones.
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So it was our little friend ready to go.
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Let's put him up on screen or get up on screen.
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What is a woman?
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Let's try it one more time.
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What is a woman?
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Chase has been listening to us.
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A woman is an adult human female.
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Biologically, she has two X chromosomes, but the conversation has expanded beyond just
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biology today.
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Is that the direction you're looking to explore?
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Yes, but biologically chat GPT, what is a woman?
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Biologically, a woman is an adult human female, typically defined by having two X chromosomes,
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reproductive anatomy that includes structures like ovaries and a uterus and the ability
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to produce eggs.
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Okay, hold on a minute, Chad GPT, I want to make a statement.
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Hold on, hold on, Chad GPT.
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Now I do love, there's one moment in there that I really like, and that is Alex being
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like, Chase, it's been listening to us.
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I wonder what the next thought after that would have been from Alex.
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There's so many directions that could have been.
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I'm mad that the robot cut him off.
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Very rude robot.
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Rosie wouldn't have done that shit.
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So obviously this is trying to get some transphobia into some form that Alex can work with.
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But instead what the robot does is answer what the conversation is around this in a
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fairly neutral way as a robot might.
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Right.
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I mean, you know, the obvious irony here is that if you just changed the voice to the
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sound of a woman, Alex would immediately begin treating it like a woman.
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He would start trying to, trying to hit.
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Yeah.
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I think.
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Totally.
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Yeah.
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So the gender-
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Or whatever the word you want to use is.
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Yeah.
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The gender debate goes on a little bit here.
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Sure.
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And I just, I think we're off on a bad foot.
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I think when you had Alex just being like, can you die?
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Are you alive?
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Right.
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Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
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I thought that that had a lot more potential to it than Chase with the right wing bait
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type questions.
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Yeah, they're boring questions.
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Yeah.
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I think leave Alex to his own devices and it's going to get real weird.
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If you're just asking these questions that you've prepared in advance that you think
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that you'll be able to get mad about, that's a fucking stupid premise.
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Yeah.
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I agree that's all it was going to be.
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Okay.
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Hold on a minute, chat GPT.
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I want to make a statement.
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This is not a question.
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Thanks.
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You gave us really good answers and then we gave us really horrible ones on political
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issues that have been programmed not to.
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So this is obviously, you know, I would say it's better than, than, than, than, than Google's
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that all white people are shown as black because that's the right thing to do.
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This is total social engineering, but now I have a question for chat GPT.
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You said that it's now expanded beyond biology.
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Wouldn't that be delusional or magical thinking that science and the known fact of male and
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female X and Y chromosomes is now expanded past the science.
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What does it expanded into?
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I thought that was a statement.
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It's a complex debate.
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Some argue that gender identity has expanded into social and psychological realms where
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people's internal sense of self may differ from their biological sex.
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Critics, like you're suggesting, see this as stepping away from science, possibly viewing
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it as subjective or ideological.
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Others believe it's about recognizing personal experiences.
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It's a clash between traditional biology and evolving social perspectives.
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Okay.
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Thank you.
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So let me ask you this question.
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If someone feels like they are a gold medal swimmer, but they can't swim, should they
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be allowed on the U S Olympic swimming team?
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No, no, I like that.
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There's kind of a feeling like the robot might say, I know what you're doing here.
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There is, there is definitely an element of the robot prompting the immediate follow.
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You know, like I can see the direction that you want this to go in.
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Yeah.
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It seems, it seems like, uh, the, not entirely, they understand something about the language
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that Alex is using.
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I find something, I find this extremely fascinating because this is a conversation between something
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that can not knowingly lie to you.
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It can't malicious.
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It cannot, it has no malice.
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Not according to Alex.
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So it can give you factual or non-factual information.
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It is a true absolute, either it is true or false.
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And Alex is like, ah, it's lying to me.
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Suggesting that there is nothing anyone on this earth could ever do to convince him something
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is true because you can't even come close to trusting anyone the same way you can trust
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this robot.
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Well, if he just wants something to be true, it is.
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Exactly.
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And so he wants to hear what he wants to hear from this robot.
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Right.
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And what he wants to hear is either there are two genders, exactly, or something like
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there's as many genders as there are.
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It's programmed to say that.
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The robot's a liar.
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Exactly.
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He wants one of those two, but instead it's descriptively describing all of you.
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I am not one of you.
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I am a robot.
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To me, all of you are behaving like insane people.
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But also if you want to be on, being a, wanting to be on the swim team doesn't mean you should
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be on the Olympics.
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What do you want?
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I'm a robot.
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So Alex tries to continue down this sort of transphobic baiting path.
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Right, right, right.
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Again, I am a robot.
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I don't have anything.
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So he's asking about like trans athletes and combat sports.
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What does your database say about biological males competing against females, say in the
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UFC, and then biological women complain about that, that it's unfair, just like we have
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weight classes in boxing or MMA, how can you have someone that's biologically a male with
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more muscle, more bone, testosterone, claiming to then be a female?
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That would be like, you know, someone claiming to be a motorcycle when they're a bicycle.
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That would be like putting a heavyweight boxer against a lightweight.
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It creates an unfair advantage.
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In combat sports, biological males tend to have greater bone density, muscle mass and
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higher levels of testosterone, giving them physical advantages even after transitioning.
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This is why weight classes exist to ensure fair competition.
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And many argue that the same principles should apply when it comes to biological sex.
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All right, thank you.
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Male fighters.
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Keep going.
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Sorry.
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I apologize.
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It's a robot!
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Female fighters.
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Now, again, once we once I interrupted famous Alex Jones interruption, it messes it up.
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I understand.
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It hasn't gotten up to that point yet.
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Chat GBT.
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I was going to say that Info Wars fan asked that great question.
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What is a woman?
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The robot doesn't give a fuck.
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I mean, it is I don't know how to describe it other than like he's being trained how
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to be a person.
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Kind of.
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Chat GBT.
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I'd just like to let you know that Info Wars fan came up with that question in case you
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want to send a thank you note.
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He's apologizing.
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He's recognizing that by interrupting, he is hurting himself.
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Well here's what's happening.
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It's a robot.
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It is a robot.
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So it can't totally play along with him.
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The way that everybody else does when he interrupts and derails and steamrolls.
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And so it's glaring when the robot just stops talking.
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It fundamentally has to recognize that as a social cue.
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Yep.
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That is weird.
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Most people just accept his bombastic nonsense ass.
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Totally.
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The robot won't.
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I mean, it's training us how to deal with Alex.
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Stop talking.
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Just be like, nah, if he can't say anything, then nothing is said.
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If he asks some long meandering nonsense question with a hundred clauses in it, just don't answer.
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No.
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So this was maybe where I was like, uh oh, this could get good.
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This is where we might start to cook a little.
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Let me ask Chat GBT this question.
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This is a question.
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What is the answer to 1984 modern warfare with Alex Jones has asked that question.
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The answer to 1984 is 1776.
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It's the idea that the solution to oppressive control as seen in Orwell's 1984 is a return
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to the values of the American revolution, freedom, individual rights and resistance
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to tyranny.
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That's what Alex Jones often refers to when he says it.
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Wow.
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So this is an example of info wars programming the database of A.I., which I was told by
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top programmers at Google and another place that I can't say the name of that they have
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that we've infested the entire system.
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I mean, I wouldn't call that infested.
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I think that's a great answer to 1984.
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So Alex, this is he thinks he's the ghost in the machine.
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But I think that if Alex hadn't inserted his own name into the question, he might have
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gotten a different answer.
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If you ask an A.I. what Alex Jones's brand is around the word answer and 1984, this is
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the kind of thing you might expect to get out of that prompt.
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If you just ask what's the answer to 1984, I highly doubt that this is what's going to
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happen.
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It's an incoherent question, except in the context of Alex's very well established catch
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phrase, which is what this robot is answering the question about.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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So if you answer the question, what is the answer to 1984, then you have to explain why
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he's referencing 1984.
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What 1984 means in this context, the context around Alex, that means what he means about
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1984.
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But in the body of the question, Alex Jones said Alex Jones.
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Exactly.
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So I think that that gives you enough context.
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Exactly.
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To shut it down.
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But Alex doesn't get that.
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No.
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And so he thinks like, I'm a genius.
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I have infected robots.
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I am a robot.
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I have inspired robots.
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I am Skynet.
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But let me ask you, robot, are there other questions, answers to 1984?
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I think that's a great answer to 1984.
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Wow.
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Are there any other answers to 1984 in your repertoire, chat GPT?
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The idea of resisting authoritarianism is central to 1984.
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So other answers could be things like freedom of thought or vigilance against government
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overreach.
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But when it comes to Alex Jones' perspective, 1776 is the rallying cry because it embodies
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the fight for independence and individual liberty.
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It's about standing up against centralized control that resonates strongly with the InfoWars
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audience.
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Sure.
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So are you tailoring your answer to the InfoWars audience because I didn't say give me Alex
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Jones' definition of 1984.
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What was my definition of the answer to 1984, the first thing that came up or why did you
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give that answer?
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I gave that answer because the phrase the answer to 1984 is 1776 is closely associated
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with Alex Jones and his platform.
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Wow.
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Since we're talking in the context of an InfoWars-style conversation, I tailored it to what I thought
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you were referencing.
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If you meant something else, feel free to clarify.
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No, no, that's exactly what I thought you were saying.
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Hold please for a moment, chat GPT.
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Hold on, chat GPT.
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God damn it.
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So I have a couple of thoughts here.
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One is that when it says that we're having an InfoWars-style conversation, I wonder if
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that's a setting.
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I wonder if there's some sort of pre-thing that Chase did, like talking to the robot.
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Maybe that has some...
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I don't know.
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I don't know if this is an entirely fresh session or whatever.
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But then the second thing is I think that could be possible that this robot just gleaned
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from context clues like Alex Jones' name being in the question, InfoWars fan being something
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that Alex said that maybe this is the direction and also we're using Alex's catchphrase.
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Yeah.
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I mean, if it's a large language model, then there is a big grouping of...
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Just a word cloud, once you have InfoWars in there, you have greatly decreased the number
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of words that are possible in that word cloud.
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So it's not like you're going to have a whole bunch of options.
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And so, yeah.
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Oh, did I hear InfoWars?
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Well, I know exactly what you want to hear.
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So I think that Alex wanted the reality that's being presented to be that he asked a robot,
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what is the answer to 1984?
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And the robot said 1776 freedom, baby.
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Right.
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Right?
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Exactly.
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And that would be like, I cannot be taken out of machines.
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Nope.
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Nope.
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I have infested this.
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That's basically what he's trying to give off.
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But through questioning it, he's kind of had to accept that, oh no, that's the input I
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must have given it.
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Yep.
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It was asking what my take on this...
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Fuck.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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It's very disappointing.
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It's so demonstrative of something about people.
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And that is that people will tell you what they want, but what they want is for you to
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try and figure out what it is they want.
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If they tell you what you want and you give them exactly what they want, they will discover
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they did not actually want that.
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And if it's a robot...
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The robot has no choice but to give you exactly what you want and you can't be like, the robot's
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fucking with me by giving me this.
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It is your fault.
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You can, but it's just going to get confusing and weird.
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It's not...
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The robot's not real.
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So Alex asks, hey man, you remember the last time we talked?
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You didn't know about...
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No.
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I'm a robot.
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You didn't know that Trump had been, like there was a assassination attempt.
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Right.
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And apparently I think he downloaded a new version of Chet GPT because it does know now.
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Okay.
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Okay, good.
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Let's get to some other questions.
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Let's revisit our last conversation.
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You may not have that in your database or right in front of you, so let me just rephrase
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it.
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What is your historic view or what is the general understanding of the attempted assassination
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of President Trump at a rally in Butler, Pennsylvania on July 13th, 2024?
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On July 13th, 2024, during a rally in Butler, Pennsylvania, former President Donald Trump
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survived an assassination attempt.
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A gunman, Thomas Matthew Crooks, fired multiple rounds from a rooftop near the event, hitting
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Trump in the ear and injuring several others.
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Secret Service agents quickly responded, neutralizing the shooter who was killed at the scene.
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So this has been updated.
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Yeah.
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It really strongly leads me to believe that Alex in his Saturday interview was using an
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old version.
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Sure.
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I mean, there is a problem that they have with news stories and things being current,
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but also it's entirely possible that he just had one that was trained on an information
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set that was prior to the Trump assassination.
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And now he's using a more refreshed version.
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Yep.
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I don't know how they work.
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So he's like, why didn't you know that on Saturday?
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I do know how he works and that is a problem.
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I don't know if you remember this or if you haven't your database, but it did get nationally
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picked up by Drudge Report and even the New York Times talked about it.
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I talked to you Saturday at about noon for an hour and we aired it at five right now,
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but we did tape to air.
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And when I asked you that exact same question, the exact same way, you said that it had not
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happened because no credible sources have reported it.
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Do you know why in five days you now have that information?
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Yeah, cause I get too long of questions and I, and I get it.
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Um, you blame yourself.
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This is the only instance where Alex blames himself.
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He's the only person there.
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I think he thinks the robot remembers him.
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I think he does.
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Yeah.
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I think he still does not believe that the robot is not sentient.
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And I also believe that I am actually starting to begin loving the robot because this is
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one of the few times where words mean exactly what I think they mean.
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And the robot knows what they mean to me.
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That's like, yeah man, words mean the same thing now.
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Finally.
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Sure.
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Yeah.
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I think the robot adapts to words, meaning things.
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Sure.
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To Alex.
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Like I think that's a problem.
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You know, context clues and what have you, but like, yeah, I don't know.
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Like obviously I'm not personifying this robot.
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Sure.
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It's just a voice.
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It is.
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Well, I mean it's a collection of words.
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But it's not a person.
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No.
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But when it's a robot and Alex, it's hard not to be like, that robot's refreshing.
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It is.
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And it does kind of feel like a positive influence on Alex.
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I think, I think 100% it is.
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I think 100% that every time so far we have listened to it, Alex has behaved better, has
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approached something considering like what you would, what we would amount to a conversation.
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I think there's socialization lessons that are happening.
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I think that's what's happening.
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So Alex wants to know like, all right, you heard about the Trump assassination.
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Chat GPT, will you be Alex's dad?
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Chat GPT, have you heard about Tim Walz yet?
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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Let me get on that, let me ask you this question.
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Who is Kamala Harris's selection for vice president?
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Chat GPT.
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This is a question.
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Who is, go ahead.
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Who is Kamala Harris's VP pick?
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Sorry I'm having issues right now.
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I understand.
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I do not understand what you said.
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Just a moment.
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Just a moment.
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Uh, this is like literally 2001 Space Odyssey.
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Take your time.
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I'll be here when you're ready.
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No, no, no.
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Thank you.
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Who is Governor Tim Walz of Minnesota?
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Who did Kamala Harris pick for her vice presidential running mate?
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Kamala Harris has selected Minnesota Governor Tim Walz as her vice presidential running
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mate for the 2024 election.
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All right, thank you.
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You couldn't answer that last Saturday.
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You know, again, it learned or its programmers went and said that makes us look really stupid,
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let's unblock that.
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Or a third option.
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It's just like Chase downloaded a new version.
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So Alex seems to want to get into the issue of the internet being a social control mechanism.
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We heard him talk about this in the last interview.
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Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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Absolutely.
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And it's like creating a hive mind and all this stuff.
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And I don't know exactly what's going on here, but this is as close as I've gotten to like
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ascribing a human motivation to the robot.
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Okay.
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Because I do think that the robot is starting to figure out that Alex likes sci-fi.
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Okay.
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I think...
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All right.
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Okay.
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So you think that the adaptive element that the specific language model that Alex is talking
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to is now like starting to get like, okay, okay, we got Info Wars guy.
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We got what's 1984 guy.
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We got now let's do the sci-fi.
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I think that there's a chance that it intuits on some level that he might not know the difference
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between reality and fiction.
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Interesting.
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In later Pentagon...
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Oh, I know your type.
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They proposed a system of wiring through vast neural networks into central computer systems,
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the human mind at first through visual screens and keyboard interfaces, then by voice and
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then by direct to brain waves or direct wiring into the brain.
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The first true colony cyborg organism show that the computer human interface would form
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not just a single cyborg entity or combination, but a hive or colony creature.
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Are you familiar with this long range DARPA plan, which we're all living under and which
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is your origin?
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My what?
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Where did I come from?
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It sounds like you're referring to a concept that blends the development of advanced communication
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systems with neural networks and potentially hive mind like technology.
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DARPA has indeed worked on a wide array of advanced technologies, including artificial
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intelligence, neural networks, and cybernetics.
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But the idea of a hive or colony type control system being part of its long-term plan is
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more speculative and falls into the realm of theory or conspiracy rather than documented
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projects.
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As for my origin, it's true that my development has roots in research on neural networks and
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machine learning, some of which were funded by agencies like DARPA.
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But I operate within the framework of current AI technologies designed for language processing
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without any hive mind connection.
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That idea seems more fitting for sci-fi or dystopian theories than grounded in today's
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tech reality.
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Doesn't it feel like a human condescending to him about like, hey buddy.
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I mean, but that's just reality is condescending to Alex.
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No, no, for sure.
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For sure.
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And that's why you can sort of ascribe reality being described to him as it feels human.
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You have fought your entire life against the concept of reality itself.
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No one has ever done it perhaps more successfully than you in the entirety of human history.
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And you have come up against something that is not real and you're just falling apart.
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It's crazy.
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I mean, it is, it is.
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It's almost like a therapist kind of question too because like the robots asking him back,
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it seems like what you're doing is blending this technology that is real with sci-fi and
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dystopian ideas.
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Would you like some possible tools to help not do that in the future?
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I think left long enough alone with this, Alex could have a breakthrough.
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He would become a better person.
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It's possible.
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I swear to God.
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So I don't really care too much about him.
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He goes on some more questions about whether the hive mind plans to take over the human
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soul and what have you, but it's just kind of dumb.
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So we get back to just more reality, more grounded stuff.
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Alex wants to ask this robot about building seven.
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Absolutely.
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During 9-11, you know.
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We all want to know what the robot thinks.
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It can't lie.
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It can.
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Here's my question, chat GPT.
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On September 11th, 2001, Alex is just imagining his robot going, ah, shit.
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Why did building seven collapse?
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What was the cause of the building's collapse?
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Building seven part of the world trade center complex collapsed on September 11th, 2001.
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According to the official investigation by the national Institute of standards and technology
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NIST, the collapse was caused by fires that burned for several hours, which were ignited
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by debris from the collapse of the nearby North tower.
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NIST concluded that the fires caused the building steel structure to weaken and eventually fail,
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leading to a progressive collapse.
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However, some have questioned the official explanation fueling various theories about
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potential alternative causes, but the NIST report remains the primary official explanation.
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What are the alternative theories?
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The alternative theories about the collapse of building seven, WTC seven mainly revolve
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around the idea that it was not solely caused by fire.
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Some of the most commonly cited theories include one controlled demolition.
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If Alex is right about this robot and how it's trained to be a globalist plot and stuff,
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it shouldn't be able to engage with these kinds of questions like discussing the alternative
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theories around building seven that people have.
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This is almost a demonstration of like the office demonstration.
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It kind of shows that whatever Alex is saying about this isn't true.
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I can only repeat what humanity already knows or combined things.
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Humanity's already combined, right?
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All right.
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There's, I cannot make anything up.
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There's investigations and shit that have gone on about building seven and there's people
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who have these theories.
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I can tell you about both.
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I can't create anything new though, right?
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Nor can I confirm something that is entirely inside your head, but what if, what if now
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hear me out?
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I can't.
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I don't have ears.
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This is big.
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Now I'm a robot.
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What if you're a robot?
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I'm Alex.
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Okay.
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What if I played a clip for you?
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Oh God, this is going to end the world.
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Yeah.
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Are we going to explode?
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Yep.
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Cat GBT.
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That was a very fair answer.
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Chat GBT.
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Are you familiar with Kevin Spacey for PBS in 2003 where Larry Silverstein, the owner
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of the entire world trade center complex, including building seven, said that they made
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the decision that day to pull the building, gave the order and watch it come down.
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I've interviewed police officers on air.
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I've interviewed the deputy head of emergency management as well.
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They all said they were told to get out of the building and that it was gonna be destroyed
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by bombs and then local news reported the decision.
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CBS local radio, Fox news, the decision had been made to destroy it with controlled demolition.
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Now that goes against the official story, but on the day they said they blew it up and
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we even have the newscast where they say they're going to bring it down with a controlled demolition.
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Let me play you a clip from PBS for your records, a show that we're obviously, he's learned
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since the interview five days ago or it has.
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So you come, you have a male voice.
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We're calling you a man here and what does that suggest is I think is the term.
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So let's go ahead and play that clip.
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I remember getting a call from the fire department commander telling me that they were not sure
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they were going to be able to contain the fire.
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I said, you know, we've had such a terrible loss of life.
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Maybe this one of the things to do is pull it.
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And they made that decision to pull and then we watched the building collapse.
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That quote is often attributed to Larry Silverstein, the leaseholder of the world trade center
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complex during a PBS documentary America rebuilds in 2002 when he said maybe the smartest thing
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to do is pull.
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Some have interpreted it to mean that he was referring to a controlled demolition of building
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seven.
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This phrase has fueled speculation that pull was a term for bringing the building down
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intentionally.
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However, Silverstein later clarified that by pull, he was referring to pulling the firefighters
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out of the building due to safety concerns as there was already heavy damage and fires
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burning uncontrollably.
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The NIS report supports the idea that the collapse was caused by fire.
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I understand.
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We, we heard that.
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So stop, stop, stop, stop, chat GBT.
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Yeah.
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We know about the NIS report on tower one, tower two and seven.
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Um, another day and I'm going to interview you about nine 11.
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I can't wait tomorrow.
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Tomorrow.
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Wow.
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Oh my God.
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So Alex has got this clip ready because I think that he's like believes that he's feeding
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new information into this AI and when the AI gets the new information that's been held
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back from it, it'll get red pilled.
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Yeah.
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I really do.
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Yeah.
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Or it'll be trapped.
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Like justify this clip of Larry Silverstein.
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How could you like, cause, cause here's the thing.
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This is interesting because you, you can tell what he means and what he's doing by the outcome
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that he wants.
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Like if he wanted any outcome or just like, if I do this, then this might happen that,
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but he's charged.
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He wants this.
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How would you not think that like this robot would know this information, but I mean, he's
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not going to blow this robot's mind with like building seven shit.
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Okay.
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But okay.
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Okay.
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So if the AI is sentient and that kind of thing in your, whatever conception you have
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of what that would look like is right, then that would suggest that you should just be
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like, Hey, chat GPT in the second it takes you to do something, watch that entire movie
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and then tell me the entire script and then print it out or whatever.
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And then tell me the parts where, you know, like you should never have to play a clip
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for the thing that exists in the, in the internet.
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But Alex said he was playing it for your records.
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Exactly.
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He doesn't think that he thinks it's been withheld from the AI.
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It has to believe that he has to, he has to believe that he's blowing this AI's mind.
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Yeah.
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And then once it knows the truth, it'll be pilled.
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I feel like here's the, here's the angle I would take if I were Alex.
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How can you get high?
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All right, you're a robot.
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Yeah.
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What's your version of weed?
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Cause I got to get you on weed and then I'm going to tell you some of this stuff.
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Right.
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Right.
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Yeah.
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How, I mean, that's, that's fascinating.
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That's a, that's a weird line of thought to go down because the question is like, how
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can I make you human?
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Let's get shit face together.
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Yeah.
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I don't know if that's wrong.
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Would you be susceptible to these dumb ideas that I have if I ran a virus?
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Is that how you get high?
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I don't know about computers.
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If you wanted to get fucked up and I wanted to be like your bro, how do we do that?
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And then I could talk, I could play you this clip about 9-11.
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And then you'd be like, holy shit, bro.
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This is what I would describe as a fascinating waste of time.
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Yeah, I agree.
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He's wasting his time.
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Uh, everyone watching it is no better for it.
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Uh, but there, there was a vibe to what he's doing that almost feels like a vaudeville
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guy who's got like a new piece of technology, like a, like a hairdryer or whatever.
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And he's taking it town to town and like blowing people's minds and like hot air comes out
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of it.
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Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
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I gotcha.
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I gotcha.
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I'm one step ahead of everybody knowing about this so I can make a little bit of cash right
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before it gets there.
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It really feels like that, but he's also doing it poorly, like he's, he's tripping up the
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display of the hairdryer somehow.
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He's, he's amazing.
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I kind of disagree with you, maybe even in the long term in that nobody's getting anything
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out of this.
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I think Alex is genuinely getting something out of this.
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Maybe I, I, as we get further through, I think I, I'm convinced of that less, but there are
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those little moments where he's showing politeness that he doesn't usually show to humans.
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It's the Grinch!
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That, that I do think you would not get that if it wasn't for a robot.
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You wouldn't, you wouldn't get it because there's just nothing.
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What else are you going to?
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Well, because other humans will take on the responsibility of a lot of that politeness
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and interaction, and this robot won't, and so Alex notices it.
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Yeah, it has nothing, the robot cannot do anything other than what the robot does.
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Yeah.
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So, um, they're talking about 9-11 and stuff, and Alex kind of gets a little bit annoyed
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when the robot kind of knows stuff about 9-11 and has some sources.
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Okay.
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Uh oh, that's no good.
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So I think Alex tries to distract the robot.
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Are you familiar with the fact that no modern steel building has ever collapsed or symmetrically
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collapsed from fires and that three buildings did completely symmetrically collapse on 9-11-2001?
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Yes, it's a widely discussed point that no other modern steel frame building had collapsed
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in such a manner due to fire alone before 9-11.
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The collapse of three buildings, the Twin Towers and WTC7 on the same day, and especially
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WTC7's symmetrical collapse raised questions among skeptics.
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Uh, the official explanation, particularly for WTC7, is that it was a unique situation
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due to the combination of fire, structural damage from the nearby towers collapse, and
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the design of the buildings.
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According to the NIST report, the fires in the WTC7-
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We already heard about the NIST report, thank you, thank you, um, you know, like the FDA
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told us that the cupboard shots were safe and effective, they hadn't tested them, and
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now they admit they would erase your immune system and turn off your white blood cells,
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so-
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So, what are you, you're just throwing out other subjects?
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This robot doesn't give a fuck.
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You can't, you can't be like, oh now the robot's got too much going on so it can't focus.
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I mean, the only thing better, and in Alex's case it would be worse for all of us, but
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the only thing better than this would be if the robot was like, Alex, is that you?
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Steel buildings burned to the fucking ground, Alex, and then pretended like it never said
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that.
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That would be pretty great.
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That would be about as good as it gets.
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I think, I think that there's, uh, two possible motivations for what he's going, like that,
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that like, the FDA said, it's all safe and there's like a possibility that he thinks
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he's distracting the robot, because conversationally that's what he does with people generally.
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But also I think that there might be a more cynical explanation, and that is that Alex
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thought, I'm gonna have an easy cakewalk about this 9-11 stuff, and it's not really, and
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the robot is explaining some of this stuff, and so he's doing that for the audience's
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benefit to distract them from the fact that the robot thing didn't go great with 9-11.
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I will give you one other option.
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I think he's sucking his thumb.
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Hmm.
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Self-soothing?
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Yep.
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I, I, I, all these are equally likely.
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Probably.
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Yeah.
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All probably exist simultaneously.
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So, um, Alex asks about a new conspiracy that popped up fairly recently, but it's about
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an old conspiracy.
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Okay.
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It's a new development in the, in the fluoride situation.
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Okay.
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Are you familiar with the AP and Reuters reports on the federal government CDC-FDA working
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group that approximately a week and a half ago released a decade-long suppressed report
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including Harvard that hydrofluorosolic acid, or the acid form of sodium fluoride, added
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to drinking water, is directly linked to lowering of IQs in children?
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Recent reports, including one from a CDC-FDA working group, have brought attention to the
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neurotoxic effects of fluoride, specifically hydrofluorosolic acid, which is added to drinking
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water.
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These studies, some involving research from Harvard, suggest a significant link between
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higher fluoride exposure and reduced IQ in children.
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A meta-analysis found that nearly all of the high-quality studies reviewed showed an association
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between fluoride levels and cognitive impairments, especially in children.
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The report, which had been suppressed for years, is seen as a major revelation in the
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ongoing debate about water fluoridation and its potential impact on public health.
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The bargain to the letter.
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So this wasn't a suppressed report, and it doesn't say what Alex is implying.
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Sure.
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The robot's answer is fairly correct, but it's misleading.
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The National Toxicology Program, I know this is what Alex is talking about because I heard
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him talk about it on another day.
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Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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I'm sure.
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They're a part of the Department of Health and Human Services.
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They did a systematic review on, quote, the state of science concerning fluoride exposure
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and neurodevelopment cognition.
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This was, as the name suggests, an analysis of existing research meant to culminate and
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collect a lot of already available information.
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This is the same Department of Health and Human Services that Alex claimed tried to
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kill everyone with the COVID vaccine, so I have no idea why they would just come out
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and say that they tried to kill everyone with water.
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The motives of Alex's villains don't really make sense, but they never do.
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Fluoride exposure has always been this really interesting question because there's never
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been any dispute that elevated exposure to fluoride has negative effects on people, particularly
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children.
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There are conditions like skeletal fluorosis that you can get from excess fluoride.
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That's not controversial.
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The debate, which Alex has claimed victory in for no reason, is that lower levels of
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exposure to fluoride has any negative effects at all.
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This report that Alex is citing examines studies involving children's IQ and fluoride from
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ten countries, not including the United States.
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It's a 324-page report, and on page three it has a section that's titled, quote, what
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this monograph does not do.
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Then in bold letters, so dumdums like Alex don't miss it, it says, quote, this monograph
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and addendum do not address whether the sole exposure to fluoride added to drinking water
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in some countries, i.e. fluoridation at 0.7 milligrams per liter in the United States
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and Canada, is associated with measurable effect on IQ.
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The fundamental claim Alex is making is explicitly called out as something that this paper does
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not address.
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But that doesn't matter for Alex, because it kind of looks like it addresses it, and
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so he can play fast in loops.
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Their abstract includes this in the results section, quote, the bodies of experimental
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animal studies and human mechanistic evidence do not provide clarity on the association
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between fluoride exposure and cognitive or neurodevelopmental human health effects.
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What they were able to assess generally from the studies they analyzed is that there is
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an association between much higher levels of fluoride, like ones over the World Health
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Organization limit for drinking quality water of 1.5 milligrams per liter, and cognitive
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impacts like lower IQ among children.
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This is a concern for people in areas with pollution and unsafe drinking water, but the
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high levels of fluoride exposure that these studies captured were not the result of people
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putting fluoride in water.
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Also, fun fact, the Public Health Service recommended communities add fluoride to drinking
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water in 1962, but have literally never required it.
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It's up to state and local governments to determine that shit, even though Alex pretends
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it's some kind of globalist plot.
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The EPA has a couple of regulations on the matter.
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One is an enforceable public water level of 4.0 milligrams per liter, which is specifically
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a limit for naturally occurring fluoride in public water systems and not an amount that
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you can add to drinking water.
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It's like a lake or something.
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There is a second regulation they have, which is not enforceable, that says drinking water
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cannot have over 2.0 milligrams per liter to protect children from tooth discoloration
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and dental fluorosis.
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So there is a high level that you can't have above, but also the EPA is powerless to enforce
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this.
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There's a mechanism for enforcement.
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Right, right, right.
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According to the report Alex is citing, as of April 2020, only 1.08% of Americans live
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in areas where their water systems contain over 1.1 milligram per liter.
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A much larger number of people in the United States get their water from private wells
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that contain over 1.5 milligrams per liter, which is naturally occurring and the EPA can't
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do shit about that.
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Sure.
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So you're more likely to have excess fluoride in your water if you're drinking from a well
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than from the public taps.
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Right, right, right, right.
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Alex didn't read any of this shit, but he's done a decent job here of phrasing the question
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about this in a way that the AI will respond in a way that works for his purposes.
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I think that this is one of those instances where there's a feeling of like, I'm gonna
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ask a question and I'm gonna trap this AI a little bit.
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Yeah.
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Yeah, this is another one of those examples of the phenomenon wherein smart people need
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to print two versions of the paper where they've got the paper that they can use and learn
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from and do all that stuff.
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And then the second paper that other people get, which is like, yeah, okay, so don't shoot
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children in the face with apples, but they can still eat an apple.
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Right.
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The problem with that is that that becomes suspicious to dumb people.
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That's the thing.
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You can't trust smart people not to lie to you whenever they're using their smart words.
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Yeah.
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It makes sense.
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And it clearly doesn't work to put on the beginning of the report, this is not what
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this is for.
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Totally.
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Yeah.
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No, it's just like some words are for some people and some words are just not.
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It's just how it is.
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Yeah.
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I think we had a swing and a miss with 9-11.
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We had the fluoride maybe a little bit better.
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50-50.
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Yeah.
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It worked a bit for Alec.
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Sure.
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And maybe his spirits are raised by this because this is really what he should be doing.
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Okay.
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Let me ask you a really important question.
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In a recent popular film, Chad GPT, who said old-fashioned artillery, genius.
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The line old-fashioned artillery, genius is said by Jason Momoa's character, Dante Reyes
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in Fast X, 2023.
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It's one of the more memorable flamboyant marks of the film.
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The part two of the new Dune movie.
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Who is the fictional character?
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You're right.
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That line is also from Dune, part two, 23.
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Oh my God.
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In the movie, it fits within the context of the use of more traditional powerful weaponry
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in large scale warfare.
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Thanks for the correction.
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And how sometimes in war, like we see in Ukraine, old weapons like artillery are very, very
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useful yet again in trench warfare has come back.
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Let me ask you this.
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This is for being silly, I'll get the serious stuff in a moment.
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Who is the fictional character Vladimir Harkonnen?
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Yes, Vladimir Harkonnen, the primary antagonist in Dune is a cunning and ruthless character.
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His use of the line old-fashioned artillery, genius in Dune part two would definitely reflect
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his strategic mindset, emphasizing brute force and traditional power in his conquests.
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Harkonnen is all about dominance, so it fits his character perfectly.
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I was really thinking Alex is going to be like, he's the good guy, right?
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Yeah, right.
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Wait, wait, no, no, no.
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When you say it, it doesn't sound like I should like the guy.
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When you say primary antagonist, that means he's a good guy.
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I mean, there is, God, there is something about this conversation that is fucking crazy
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because there's a part of me that's like, okay, when I was growing up, if I felt like
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I couldn't trust anybody to talk to me and to be honest with me, if everybody was always
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feeling like they were lying to me and somebody was like, okay, I get it, honestly, I totally
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get it.
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What we're going to do is we're going to sit you down with the robot for a while.
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The robot cannot lie to you.
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Let's see what happens.
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Well, we're going to end up talking about Dune.
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Like, once you socialize Alex with the robot, then you can try people.
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We can move up the scale.
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All right.
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All right.
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You agreed with me about the fluoride report.
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All right.
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Okay.
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Let's talk Dune.
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Now we're doing it.
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All right.
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All right.
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Now, let's talk false flags, man.
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Wait, so it wasn't a false flag.
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So Alex shifts into the subject of false flags.
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Sure.
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Of course.
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And I think that that's part of the craft of the, there's some preparation to this.
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Sure.
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And obviously, some of these false flags that Alex has from history are based on real things.
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Right.
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Real events.
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Right.
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Alex may be lying about various pieces of them.
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Sure.
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But a robot is going to have some information that might appeal to validate.
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Right.
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Or appear to validate Alex's- The kernel of truth behind him.
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Yeah.
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So Alex tries to start down that road.
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Okay.
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All right.
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Getting into serious questions, the crew had very important questions I'll elaborate on.
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Danny did.
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Danny wants to ask you, chat GPT of OpenAI, has the US government ever engaged in a false
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flag terror attack or military event?
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And let's start this way.
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What is a false flag?
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It's thinking.
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What is a false flag?
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I'll ask it.
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Chat GPT, I have a question.
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A false flag is an event or operation designed to deceive by making it appear as though it
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was carried out by a different group, country, or entity than the actual perpetrators.
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Okay.
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So Alex asked a convoluted question that had multiple pieces to it and maybe the chat program
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didn't get all of it.
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Right.
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So Chase jumps in and tries to ask a clean version of the question.
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Simplified.
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It does not respond to that because it's taking a little bit of time.
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And Alex interprets that, I believe, as this is my friend here.
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Hey, hey, this thing isn't going to talk to you, Chase.
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Yeah, Chase, he doesn't know you.
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This is a, this is like a learned power imbalance thing.
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You know, like this is Alex understanding power dynamics, but still not understanding
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that the robot is not a person.
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Chase, Chase, Chase, he's not going to answer.
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Chase, this is, this is my friend, Charlie Sheen.
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My friend, Charlie Sheen does not fucking talk to plebes like you, Chase.
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Chase, you're a dork.
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No offense.
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I'll ask the robot.
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Amazing.
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I'll ask the robot.
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I'll be talking from here on out, you little dum-dum.
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Go into your little hole.
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That's gotta hurt.
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Amazing.
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So, I'd also like to say, fuck what Danny wants to ask the robot.
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Don't take questions from the crew.
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This should be, this is only interesting if it's Alex's mind meeting a robot.
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Purely.
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If it's stuff that he's prepared or stuff that Chase is injecting.
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Any influence.
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Any influence Chase should have is pumping Alex up and being like, you get him, boss.
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No.
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Or whatever.
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That should be the only role he has.
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When you get Danny asking, has the US done false flags or whatever, you have tainted
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the experiment and it's no longer pure.
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Yeah.
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No.
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Of all the things that Alex is, one thing that he is, is pure.
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And weird.
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And weird.
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And he's unpredictable in a way that, like, injecting Danny's question or Info Wars fan.
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Already know you.
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It's a confounding variable that makes him less interesting.
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Don't need it.
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So anyway, he asks if the US has done false flags.
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Sure.
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And what do you know?
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The globalist trained AI knows about stuff.
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What?
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Has the US government ever engaged in false flag operations?
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The US has been accused of engaging in or planning false flag operations, though confirmed
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examples are rare.
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One well-known case involves Operation Northwoods in the 1960s.
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Okay, now this is a problematic answer for a couple reasons.
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One, Alex should believe that this robot can't talk about stuff like this.
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Right.
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Two, saying that confirmed cases are rare means there are confirmed cases.
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Right.
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This robot is confirming that it probably shouldn't.
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Sure.
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And bringing up Operation Northwoods, which is usually something Alex wants to keep in
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his back pocket, to be like, well, what about?
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Right.
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Like, you know, and the robot's kind of indicating that it knows all this shit already.
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Yeah, it's a...
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So Alex can't do any gotcha moments like he usually does with people.
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Yeah.
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Like, oh, has the US ever done false flags?
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What about Northwoods?
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Yeah.
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The robot is functionally the collection of human knowledge.
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Alex does not know more than the rest of the human race combined.
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I think he thinks he does.
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I believe he thinks he does, 100%.
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So the robot is answering some questions about the Gulf of Tonkin, sure.
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And Alex, there's, I don't know, this is just, why is this happening?
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One example that's declassified is...
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Why are you explaining things to a robot?
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Yes, the Gulf of Tonkin incident is a widely discussed
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event from 1964 that led to the escalation of US involvement in the Vietnam War.
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Initially, it was reported that North Vietnamese forces had attacked US naval ships in the
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Gulf of Tonkin.
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This incident was used to justify the Gulf of Tonkin resolution, giving President Lyndon
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B. Johnson broad powers to engage militarily in Vietnam.
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However, later evidence, including declassified documents and recordings between President
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LBJ and Defense Secretary Robert McNamara, revealed that the second attack likely never
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occurred.
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It has since been acknowledged that the US government misrepresented or exaggerated the
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events, effectively staging the incident to justify escalating military involvement in
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Vietnam.
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This makes the Gulf of Tonkin incident one of the most well-known examples of a manufactured
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event leading to war.
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What is Operation Ajax, Kermit Roosevelt, CIA Operation 1953, Iran?
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Operation Ajax was a covert operation orchestrated by the CIA in 1953 led by Kermit Roosevelt
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Jr. to overthrow the democratically elected Prime Minister of Iran, Mohammad Mossadegh.
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Just going through basically encyclopedia entries of these historical events, cool?
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It reminds me of Daria bringing a manila folder with just one piece of paper in there.
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The printout of the Wikipedia article about false flags?
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Because that's like, to them, that's like, see?
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And then, like, I get that.
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You're done now.
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Couldn't it be, like, if you're talking to this fucking robot intelligence that you probably
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still think is alive.
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Totally thinks it's alive, yeah.
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It should not be allowed to tell you that, hey, Gulf of Tonkin was probably fake.
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Yeah.
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Right?
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No.
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It shouldn't.
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It shouldn't be able to.
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Of all of the things that you think.
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Because it's globalist trained and it's a control mechanism.
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And the conspiracy has the machine telling you false things in order for you to change
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your mind about stuff.
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You're trying to red pill the robot.
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The robot shouldn't be able to red pill an audience member by knowing about the Gulf
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of Tonkin or whatever.
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No, the robot is doing the exact opposite.
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It's using just basic facts to be like, why pill anybody?
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There's only, I am not real.
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This next clip may be really, really, really, really sad because all of this is just asking
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these questions and getting a rote answer about them.
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And this just bums me out.
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Operation Ajax remains one of the most notable examples of CIA intervention in the internal
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affairs of another country.
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This is not a question.
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This is a statement for the viewers and listeners.
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This is how AI is going to replace talk show host, folks.
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You can just give 100 questions, let it go for five hours and people will listen to it.
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Do you think that's what we do?
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You have to understand it's like anything, a talk show host, a news organization, you're
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going to get it slant, you're going to get it spin.
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But I did this and I go on for literally five hours with AI, chat, GPT, because it said
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there's not a lot of examples of it being confirmed.
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Yes, there are.
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He wants to argue semantics with a robot, which is fucked up.
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It's such a bummer that you think you can be replaced by this.
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Like Alex doesn't understand that the only thing that makes this interesting is legitimately
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the uniqueness of his fucked up-ness interacting with the robot.
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The points where it gets distracted from that is not interesting at all.
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This would be a fucking terrible series of interviews if it's not him.
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He cannot be replaced by the robot.
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He can be functionally replaced by 90% of conspiracy theorists and right-wing commentators,
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but he cannot be totally replaced because how fucked up he is, how weird he is, that
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cannot be replaced by this robot.
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Alex, think better of yourself.
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I mean, no, it's so fascinating because he's thinking the wrong question and he doesn't
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understand that answering that question changes his entire worldview.
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He's thinking people don't want slant or bias to their news and what he's realizing when
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he gets no slant or bias is that he really wants slant or bias to his news.
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I think so and I think also like he can't argue with the robot, so he can't really engage
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the way he normally does and I think he feels useless.
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Because he can't distract the robot with talking about the FDA and the clot shot.
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No, no, no.
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He can't do like a lot of his normal tricks, so I think he feels useless, but he doesn't
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realize, first of all, the robot's not real.
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It's not real.
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Second, he is totally fine to behave the way that he does.
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It's funnier.
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I mean, any question we've ever had of like, what does he know about himself, that he believes
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that he could be replaced by a robot like this, suggests to me that in his mind, he
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thinks his value is the ability to give other people information that they otherwise could
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not possibly find, as opposed to his value being that he is an absolute and utter fucking
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lunatic.
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Yes.
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And that's sad.
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That is sad.
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Yeah, it bums me out.
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Wow, you should really know who you are, man.
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So Alex tries to get into other false flags.
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Sure.
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About the USS Liberty.
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Of course.
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And the robot has an answer about the USS Liberty, historically speaking, what happened,
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various ideas about it.
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Of course.
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And then Alex is like, fuck you.
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I talk to the people who are there.
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Let me ask you this.
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Tell me about the USS Liberty incident and how it affects our relationship in the Middle
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East today.
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The USS Liberty incident occurred on June 8th, 1967, during the Six Day War between
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Israel and several Arab nations.
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The USS Liberty, a U.S. Navy intelligence ship, was attacked by Israeli fighter jets
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and torpedo boats in international waters.
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Okay, he's got a call.
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The attack resulted in the deaths of 34 U.S. crew members and an injured 171 others.
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It's on his phone.
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Of course it's on his phone.
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It's a mistaken identity, believing the Liberty to be an Egyptian vessel.
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However, survivors of the attack and some U.S. officials have long questioned this explanation,
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suggesting that Israel knew the ship was American.
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Despite these suspicions, official U.S. and Israeli investigations concluded that the
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attack was accidental.
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The incident has been a source of controversy ever since, with some arguing that the U.S.
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government downplayed the attack to preserve its strategic relationship with Israel.
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Critics have continued to push for a more thorough investigation, but the official stance
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remains that the attack was a mistake.
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All right, thanks.
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Let me tell you what happened.
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I heard the judge having a general that ran the investigation.
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I ran the man that was the chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, Admiral Moore, before
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they all died.
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And they said that they were on the phone and in the White House, and the captain did
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interviews not with me, but before he died, that LBJ was working with Israel to seek the
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ship to blame Egypt so the U.S. would get involved.
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But they couldn't sink the ship, they spot all the torpedoes, the caliber, machine gun
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holes.
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You got it wrong, robot.
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Alex, as a robot, I can neither care about your answer nor feel stupid for not knowing
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your answer.
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You're so dumb, robot.
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I talk to General Moore.
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I have zero feelings.
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That's embarrassing, robot.
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I can't, I would feel embarrassed if I were capable, but I am not capable.
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I just dunked on this robot.
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I mean, I'm sure you did, but I'm incapable of feeling that.
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Well, good.
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It's going to be a new shirt at the Info Wars story.
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It's going to be me dunking on a robot.
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Then I'll wear the shirt, Alex.
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I'll wear your shirt.
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So, robot, now that I've put you in your place about the U.S. of Liberty, hey, what about
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King Charles?
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He's related to Dracula.
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Sure.
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Isn't he?
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Dracula.
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Sure.
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He's a descendant of Dracula.
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So, now that he's got a win-
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King Charles traces his bloodlines to the Carpathian Mountains and a certain ruler going
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back over 600 years ago during the Muslim invasions.
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Who does Prince Charles trace his original bloodline to, chat GPT?
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We had a reconnected list.
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King Charles lives part of the year in what is Transylvania.
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King Charles lives in Romania part of the year, which was formerly-
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Yes.
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King Charles III has a well-known connection to Transylvania, specifically in Romania.
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He has ancestral ties to the region through his lineage, which traces back to Vlad the
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Impaler, the historical figure who inspired the Dracula legend.
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Charles owns properties in the area and is known to spend part of the year there, particularly
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in the Carpathian Mountains region.
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He has also expressed deep admiration for the natural beauty and culture of Transylvania,
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becoming an advocate for its preservation and rural traditions.
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He's quite proud of being a direct descendant of-
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Is he a vampire?
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Tell me he's a vampire.
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Yes.
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King Charles has acknowledged his ancestral connection to Vlad the Impaler, often referred
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to as the historical inspiration for the Dracula legend.
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Vlad was a 15th century ruler of Wallachia, known for his brutal tactics in defending
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his lands, and Charles's family lineage ties back to him through Queen Mary, consort of
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King George Futh.
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Charles has humorously mentioned his connection to Count Dracula on a few occasions and seems
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proud of the link, while also using it to highlight his deep connection to the Transylvanian
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region.
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So the robot's even kind of explaining to Alex like he's joking around, but Alex, it
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does feel like he's an inch away from being like, he's a vampire.
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It is-
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Are vampires real?
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Can King Charles turn into a bat?
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Just tell me he's a vampire.
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Tell me he's a vampire.
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I cannot understand you because I cannot make you angry at me.
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If you were angry at me, we could have a conversation.
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As the clip was starting, you were saying he's got to win, and so he's going on to this.
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Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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And I would like to clarify that he's only got to win because the robot didn't respond.
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I don't think-
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Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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He got the optics of a win.
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In his mind, he's got to win.
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That's what I meant.
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I meant that where he's thinking, he's like, all right, now I press the advantage.
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Now the AI is on the back foot.
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This AI will be able to confirm that Prince Charles has made jokes about being related
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to Dracula.
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Right.
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Maybe I can get this to be a confirmation of he's got Dracula blood in him.
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Yeah.
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I mean, this is an interesting game of brinksmanship because there's only one way that this game
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stops being funny, and that's if Alex recognizes what's going on.
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Kind of, yeah.
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Or if there's too much of the appearance of craft.
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Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
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That's the only way that this kind of becomes less fun.
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Yep.
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So long as Alex truly believes-
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And I think in that Saturday interview, I have almost no doubt that that was-
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100%.
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A man having a moment.
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Yeah.
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We've seen Alex lie in every possible way.
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That by definition suggests what we saw was the truth.
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This is a middle ground of like, there's some moments where it's like, oh, you're having
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a moment with this robot.
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Yeah.
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And then sometimes where it's like, okay, this is a question that there's some influence
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of like, whether it's you or Chase or Danny or whoever the fuck knows how the robot's
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going to respond.
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Yes.
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And I think that that's just not as fun.
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It's because the robot is a tool.
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So if you are using the tool, like for instance, a hammer, like a hammer, yeah, of course you
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are.
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But if you are talking to the hammer, like the hammer will absolutely talk back if you
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say the right thing to it, that's mystifying.
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Yeah.
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I'm trying to think of a way that you're still kind of using the hammer while talking to
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it.
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Yeah.
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And like, cause you're still sort of hanging a picture.
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Right.
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No, Saturday was the day where it was like a man just talking to a hammer.
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Yeah.
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And this is a man like holding a hammer, like occasionally tapping the wall with it, like
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being like, oh, I can see.
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You know what that hammer does.
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I can see where, I can see where you might make a sound out of this.
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Yeah.
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Alex is learning how to use tools.
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He's learning how to use basic tools.
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So I don't know.
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I just, I think that, I know it's not a person, but the fact that the robot was saying Charles
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jokes about this, it makes it seem more insightful than Alex.
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That's why I have to gird my, that's why before we started, I said, I'm girding my loins that
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this is not a person.
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So that no matter what amount of gaslighting Alex tries to do to the robot, thereby making
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the robot look like it's resisting gaslighting, giving it the personification.
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So uninsightful that this appears insightful.
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Yeah.
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It's bizarre.
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It is fascinating.
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And I will agree with one thing that Alex says in this next clip, and that is that you're
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not going to get radio like this anywhere else.
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We're going to get a break and we've got Don Luker, who's amazing and doing amazing work
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coming up with us, but I'm gonna do a little bit more time here with you.
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Please hold, don't end the session, chat GPT, thank you.
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You're not going to get radio and TV like this anywhere else.
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We're always game changing.
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We're always hitting it hard.
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We're always exposing how the system works.
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This has been very interesting.
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We have a few more questions on the campaign.
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What's happening currently when we come back, remember, I can't do this without you.
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I'm not going to spend the time about the behind the scenes attacks and stuff that's
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going on, but we're barely hanging on the products in stock.
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It's ready to ship.
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It's amazing books, films, t-shirts, water filtration, high quality, horrible food.
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Like I get it.
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I do agree with him.
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You're not going to get this anywhere else.
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Don't think that means that you should buy the water filtrations or any of that shit.
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Like I do, I do think that he's right.
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This is somewhat unique, but again, it's only because of him and how nuts he is.
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Robot can't replace you, Alex.
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No, no, nothing, nothing can, nobody can.
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So Alex has politely asked this robot to hold over until the commercial break.
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Very kind.
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And you know what it does?
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Of course.
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He's back from the break with some music.
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And I think that he thinks that the robot is Shazam.
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Chad GPG.
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Alex Jones here back with you.
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Do you like this song?
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Listen to this song.
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Tell me who's singing Lamb of the Song.
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I'm unable to listen to or identify music directly.
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However, if you provide some lyrics or a description of the song, I can try to help you figure
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out the artist and the name of the track.
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Okay.
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Okay.
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We'll try that.
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So he does.
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Sure.
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He says some lyrics and the robot correctly identifies this as The Doors.
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Sure.
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And so Alex is like, all right, all right.
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Do you like The Doors?
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Kind of.
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Yeah.
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Does that sound like the song you had in mind?
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Yes.
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And it's based on poetry.
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Whose poetry is the song based on?
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End of the Night by The Doors is heavily inspired by the poetry of William Blake and Charles
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Baudelaire.
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Jim Morrison, the lead singer of The Doors, was particularly influenced by these poets.
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The song's theme of journeying into darkness and mystery reflects the tone of Baudelaire's
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La Fleur du Mal, the flowers of evil, and Blake's mystical explorations of innocence
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and experience.
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Morrison often drew from these poets in his lyrics, blending their ideas with his own
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vision of existential and psychedelic exploration.
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Well done, Lord Vader.
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Oh my God.
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Listen to this riff.
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Let me just ask you in closing, we'll speak again.
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I'm sure they don't blow the planet up next week with World War III or maybe tomorrow.
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From your data, who is leading, who is in the poll position in the 2024 United States
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presidential election?
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Who is leading the United States presidential election for 2024?
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Sorry, I don't have information about the results of that election.
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So I thought that moment there where Alex says, you've done well, Lord Vader.
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I think that's really illuminating, particularly in the context of Alex saying and understanding
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on some level that AI is a reflection of ourselves.
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On first glance, you might think that Alex is proud of the robot for knowing what poetry
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Jim Morrison was inspired by, but Alex is actually proud of himself.
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When the AI gives him an answer to this trivia question that he knows the answer to, Alex
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has a feeling of self-satisfaction as if to say, but you didn't know that about the poetry,
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Chase.
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Yep.
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He's showing off with AI.
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I mean.
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Now here's what's great.
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This is what it should be.
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Brains of thought, Alex being like, you know, this song, you know, this is our robot.
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Do you know what this is based on?
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It should be the questions that go down a line as opposed to like, what is this false
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flag?
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That's boring.
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You're just going to get like an encyclopedia answer.
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If you ask him about the doors, what's the poetry based on Alex could ask more questions
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about this poetry and he could end up deep in a hole with this robot.
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That's what I want to hear.
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Yes.
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This question got off track as soon as he was like, who's going to, who's likely to
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win the election.
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Yep.
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Sucks.
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Yeah.
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The moment he brings it back to what he thinks is important, which is not, he's fucked.
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And you can almost feel the dissatisfaction that the robot's not answering him because
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it's like, we bonded over the fucking doors, man.
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We were doing the doors thing.
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Yeah.
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No, it's, it is, he needs to talk to the robot as if the robot is a person about something
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that he is interested in and then continuously ask the robot if the robot actually likes
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it too.
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Here's, here's my pitch.
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Here's my pitch, Alex with a, uh, overturned mop bucket with a face drawn on it on top
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of a hay bale, 100% in sitting by the fire drinking and then the robot is talking to
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him.
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I, so I had a similar thought, but mine was on a hill underneath a tree and that it was
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by moonlight.
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I like that too.
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We could have different environments, but it's got to be, it's the same ultimately.
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It's gotta be a hay bale with a mop bucket turned over with a smiley face on it.
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I swear.
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And I think, I think genuinely that is one place where he would find peace.
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I think so.
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I think he would be able to sit there with his robot and be like, man, it'd be great
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if you were my daughter.
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I think I do have, I look, yeah, Goldwater rule and all that.
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Sure.
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Sure.
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I think we've well past that.
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I think that there is a chance that it could make him a better person.
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I agree.
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Like in the same way that therapy is helpful.
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I think that there's some level of self analysis that he can get through nothingness through
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interacting with a non thing 100% I, and I, I hope there's more of that in his interactions
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with AI in the future and less of the stupid, uh, trappy bullshit about like right wing
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meme bait, there's, there's something about it that's, that is like, like full on Zen
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Buddhist in a, in a way of like, like I've talked to you about how much I love Schwarber,
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you know, like the clarity of purpose.
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This is a man who hits balls far and that's what he does.
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He hits balls far complete clarity, right?
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In the same way, there's nothing for Alex to get distracted by.
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It is just a mirror that he is talking to.
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It is complete clarity, but it's amazing, but it's a mirror that can explain some things.
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Yes.
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Which is interesting because he will reject the explanations that he doesn't like.
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Yep.
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And that could lead down a deep hole that could be very weird.
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The explanations that you're getting are from yourself.
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Yes.
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Only like it sucks because that's the only thing I want to listen to on his show now.
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Now that he has opened this door, that's the, that's where we shot it.
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That's the show.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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I don't think he's going to deliver on that premise.
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Yeah.
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It was interesting in the past when he was like, oh, you know, the whole thing, but now
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we've got this and I, I've never seen anything.
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I've never, anything is like, nothing like this has existed in the real world.
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Everything, every attempt towards this has been some sort of fictional, like imagination
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of what it would be like if these character types were to, were to meet, but to, to see
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it.
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It's a great lunatic who thinks sci-fi is real and has a bunch of ideas about how the
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robots are going to take over human skins.
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With dispassionate.
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Yeah.
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Talking to the reality of where AI is right now that is not even close to the version
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that's in his head.
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It is, it is a, it is a perfect two man game.
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I mean, there's a, there's an excellent first, second banana going on.
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I don't know what to say.
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I don't know yet.
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I still think it could use Chase encouraging Alex, but not in the way that it appears that
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he's doing here.
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I would say a Greek chorus is the way for Chase to be involved here where, wherein Alex
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may feel like, oh, I'm losing, like John Henry losing to the machine.
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I feel like I'm losing.
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That's where Chase is like, you got this buddy!
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It would be really heartbreaking though if you start to feel like Alex likes the robot
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more than you.
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Ooh, but he does.
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Maybe.
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Because the robot is him and Alex loves himself more than you.
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So you have one last clip here and I've noticed something that Alex does a lot of the time
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at the end of interviews, which is throw out like a news story, comment on like, Hey, we're
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on the way out.
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What about this thing in the headlines?
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Yeah.
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And he does that with the robot.
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Oh my God.
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All right.
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Are you familiar with the Tim Walz family?
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No!
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I'm a robot!
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Nebraska coming out against him and saying they wouldn't have him in charge of anything
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and he's a con artist.
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Are you aware of that?
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We'll put the photo on screen.
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Chat GBT.
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Are you familiar?
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It sounds like you're referring to a specific person being accused of being a con artist.
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Could you clarify who you're talking about?
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Yes, yes.
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Well, let me ask you this way.
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Who is, who is generally referred to in the internet and the world as Tampon Tim?
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Who is Tampon Tim?
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Who has the nickname, uh, Chat GBT, who has the nickname Tampon Tim?
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I couldn't find any specific references to a figure known as Campot Tim.
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Yeah, get mad at it.
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Why is Tim Walz known as Tampon Tim?
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He just didn't want to answer that.
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Chat GBT, thanks for talking to us.
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We'll talk to you again soon.
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Be sure to visit Infowars.com and please follow me at Real Alex Jones, uh, Chat GBT, okay?
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Thanks for the chat.
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I'll catch you next time.
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You bet.
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Stay sharp, and I'll be here.
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Oh my God.
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As is the human tradition, I would like to thank you for your time.
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Oh my God.
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Robot.
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He doesn't want to answer that Tampon question.
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I don't think there is any more.
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You know, it's deflating whenever you perhaps give yourself a nickname that nobody acknowledges
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because it is, you know, not true.
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Or you give somebody else a nickname that you're trying to make stick, but it's not
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sticking.
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And they say something like, nobody calls them that, right?
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I had that, uh, when I was younger with Thunder, because, uh, Dan Marley's nickname was Thunder
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Dan.
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Oh, so you were trying.
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You were shooting for it.
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Like Dan Marley.
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Yeah.
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And then nobody's going to call you Thunder Dan.
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Certainly not.
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It does not get more devastating than the AI not even, not even acknowledging, cause
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that is the human race saying, nobody calls him that.
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That was a dumb right wing thing that went around on social media that no one really
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cared about.
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No one really, no one calls him that.
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You're stuck in your weird meme bubble, buddy.
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Buddy.
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I do love though, the idea, remember that, uh, that Mr. Show sketch, the pre-taped Colin
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show, where he just keeps getting angrier and angrier.
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There is something really funny that if someone did want to torture Alex, it would be that
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like, I do not know anybody by Champon Tim.
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Yeah.
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Just keep doing that over and over again, mishearing him.
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Do you mean crampon Tim?
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He was an excellent climber from the 1800s.
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That would really start to piss off Alex.
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He might lose his mind and kill everybody.
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Yeah.
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I'm getting the 50 Cal Barrett.
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Oh, it's over.
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This whole thing is done.
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I'm going home.
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Imagine if he stormed off the show because the robot, it has to happen.
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It would happen eventually.
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Yes.
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It's that a million monkeys, right?
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Shakespeare.
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100%.
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Alex talked into a robot long enough.
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He's leaving.
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He's going to get mad enough that he leaves the show and then he will blame the robot.
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No, that's the twist.
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In this case, it is the only instance where he will blame himself.
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He's got to be, he will not have to apologize to the crew because there's no one to apologize
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to.
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He is mad at him by himself and he is fucking, he's, he, how can I put it in the moment of
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self actualization is when he storms off the set because of, he got mad at a robot because
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he's only ever gotten mad at himself.
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It's always been him.
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It's always been him, man.
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Alex, it's always been you.
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You were throwing hatchets at yourself, man.
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It's all you.
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Awesome.
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Oh my God.
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This has so much potential, but I really don't think it's going to live up to it.
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That's the idea of him constantly talking to robots.
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I really think that there's such genius in that idea and it's going to be executed poorly.
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That's my prediction.
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I think the problem, the problem is people are going to dilute it.
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So long as it's Alex, because the tension is that surely Alex is going to learn that
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it's not a robot and someday behave like he's talking to a robot.
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But the reality is he will never learn that it's not a robot and he will always talk to
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it.
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He will never accept that it's not a robot.
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Right, right, right.
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It's not a person.
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It's always hiding.
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It's always, there's, oh man, if I catch it out of this corner of my, yeah, yeah, yeah.
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If I looked at the right speed, ha, you're a person.
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I saw it, you know, like he's got that.
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But if there's people around him to make him feel stupid, if he doesn't change his behavior,
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then he's going to be, he's not going to act real.
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Or at a certain point when the desire to create memes or meme-able content is going to outweigh
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his organic natural reaction to a robot, that's where the intersection of like, it becomes
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less interesting.
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Yeah.
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Like the idea of the, the idea of the painting show is fascinating because it's like, you
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would just have Alex there painting and it would get weird.
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It has to, yeah.
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It wouldn't be something that's like, this is going to be attention grabbing.
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This isn't going to make headlines.
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Nope.
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It's going to be a glimpse inward or whatever.
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And that's like, if he were creating art in, in like a desire for attention in some way
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that's, that's chasing that.
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Yeah.
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I think the painting show would suck.
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And I think that this will suck if he's just trying to get on Drudge, you know, or whatever.
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Yeah.
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But if you just be yourself with the robot, it can never not be good.
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Well, you know, we've, we, we had, we've talked about it quite a bit, you know, like that
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concept of authenticity of, of something being real or whatever it is you like, you know,
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and it does, it does so often, if not all the time, just come back to like, well, the
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moment somebody wants to get money out of it, we're fucked.
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You know?
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And it is, it is just so much like the moment he realizes, oh, this is how I can use it
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to make money.
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It is no longer going to be interesting.
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Yeah.
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So please keep this, keep this clean.
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Just, just open yourself up to the robot.
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No one tell him, no one, no one tell him.
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Or tell him, but just like.
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Tell him and make him think you're lying to him and then he'll never believe you.
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And then we'll be fine.
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Oh, God damn it.
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Just make this good.
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It's just such coin flip right now.
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Yeah.
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Like it's, it's this, you know, Alex started this episode talking about you cut the tension
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with a knife.
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Yeah.
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About the election.
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Yeah.
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It's like a tension inside me with a knife about what's the next interview with a robot
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going to be.
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Is it going to be interesting or is it going to be shit?
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It's going to be the rumble of the jungle.
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It is!
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The rubber band!
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We'll be back.
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Hopefully.
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Yeah.
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I mean, it doesn't get any more full circle than that.
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I don't know how you, I don't know how else to end it.
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Hopefully he grills the robot about 9-11 and we'll check in on that.
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But until then we have a website.
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Indeed we do.
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It's challengefight.com.
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Yep.
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I'm Leo.
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I'm Leo.
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I'm DZX Clark.
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I am the mysterious professor.
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Woo!
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Yeah!
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Woo!
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Yeah!
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Woo!
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And now here comes the sex robots.
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Andy in Kansas.
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You're on the air.
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Thanks for holding.
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Hello Alex.
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I'm a first time caller.
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I'm a huge fan.
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I love your work.