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Hello, Alex. I'm a first-time caller. I'm a huge fan.

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I love your work.

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Hey, everybody. Welcome back to Knowledge Fight. I'm Dan.

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I'm Jordan.

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We're a couple dudes. I like to sit around, worship with the author of Selene, and talk a little bit about Alex Jones.

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Oh, indeed we are. Dan.

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Jordan.

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Dan!

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Jordan.

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Quick question for you.

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What's up?

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What's your Bright Spot today, buddy?

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My Bright Spot today, I wanted to have an episode on Wednesday. I wanted to do a Wednesday episode.

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We had a little bit of HVAC issue in the studio.

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Yeah.

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And thankfully it was not a big deal. It was not like a huge, like I thought maybe we would have to tear down a wall or something for a leak of some sort.

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But it turned out to be a minor issue. So that in and of itself is a Bright Spot.

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That is great.

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Something looking like a huge pain in the ass that becomes like a minor issue. Great.

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The moment that I moved into a place that my wife owned that was not landlord repair-based, I freak out any time. The toilet's clogged. Ah!

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The stakes are so high for you.

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Exactly.

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You might have to figure out how a toilet works.

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I might have to call somebody else.

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Yeah. So that could be a Bright Spot in and of itself. But a little more fun. I've been watching a bunch of movies, trying to recapture the magic of cinema for myself.

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And I saw Knives Out and I loved it.

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It's great.

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I love a mystery. I love a silly accent.

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Yep.

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And yeah, I just want to talk like Benoit Blanc all the time.

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It's so great. It's a terrible accent. It's so great. It is like, you know, every take on Poirot. Every take on Poirot's accent is distinct from the others, which is what makes the accent fun.

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Yeah.

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It's very Belgian.

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Yep.

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But yeah, I like that. I like a mystery. I enjoy it. Anyway.

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Who are your top characters in Knives Out? Their rankings.

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Huh. I expected to not like Chris Evans much because he's a recognizable face.

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Sure. He's Captain America.

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Yeah. So I expected him to stick out more as Captain America, but I enjoyed him within the texture of the ensemble.

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Yeah. Yeah.

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I don't know. Everybody was doing their damn job. That's what I felt.

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I like that.

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Yeah. I don't know. Almost no one stuck out, but they were all like, they all felt like they were working together.

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Yeah.

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And it did take me a minute to be like, is that fucking Don Johnson? Wait a second. What the fuck is going on here?

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And then I learned, yes, it is Don Johnson.

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It is always an interesting Don Johnson appearance.

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Yeah.

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His daughter is a thing, right? Is she Madame Web? Is that Don Johnson's daughter?

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Oh, yes. Not in the movie, but in real life, yes.

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Yes.

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Dakota Johnson.

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Not Madame Web is not actually Don Johnson, although that'd be great. That's a plot twist.

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Madame Web is not in Knives Out.

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Right.

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But Don Johnson's real life daughter played Madame Web.

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Madame Web. Yes. Gotcha. Okay. All right. That makes sense.

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I found that out and I was like blown away because it's so crazy to see like the children of famous people become movie stars.

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That's nuts. Never happens.

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Yeah. There's no nepotism.

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No.

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So what's your bright spot?

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My bright spot is Star Wars Outlaws.

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Sure.

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It is awesome.

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Newly released.

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Oh, man. I was, I told you on Monday, I went from being like, oh, I should check to see when that, because I've been looking forward to it.

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There's a lot of buzz around it.

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Yeah, I'll check to see when it comes out. And it was like, it comes out Friday and I was like, hell yeah.

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And then I was like, hey, you want to spend an extra 30 bucks and get it tomorrow? And I was like, of course I do.

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That's not a fair question.

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No. That's not fair. You're just stealing $30 from me.

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Yeah. So you're running around planets.

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It's, you know what's great? Being Han Solo.

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You described it as like Assassin's Creed, but kind of in space.

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Yeah. It's a little, I mean, gameplay wise, it's that. Story wise, it really is like, hey, you know that whole good versus evil morality plays with space wizards?

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What if you were just cool and did whatever you want? And it turns out that's a lot of fun.

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There's no space wizards?

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Not that I'm aware of. Haven't met a space wizard yet. It's just me walking around with my blaster, solving problems.

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Does anyone have a lightsaber?

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Nope. Haven't seen one yet.

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Wow.

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Here's another thing. Here's another thing. It's completely different to the way that I'd normally play these types of games.

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Cause I'm usually like a stealth and then I have to like go and get each individual thing and do the whole thing.

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And then I have to be gone with nobody ever seeing me.

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Yeah. You like that sort of ninja vibe.

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Yeah. But now that I'm a Han Solo, half the fun is being like, they caught us as you're leaving and getting away while they're chasing you.

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It is awesome.

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Yeah. Getting a hasty retreat.

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Yeah. I love getting the thing that I want and then starting to go and then causing a problem and then getting on my speeder and going away. It's the best.

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Sure.

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It is the best.

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So anyway, glad you're enjoying that.

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That's my review. It's fun to be Han Solo.

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Sweet.

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Yeah.

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So we got an episode to go over today. We're going to be talking about the 27th. This is a big day.

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Okay.

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Tucker Carlson's on.

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Oh.

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So we'll talk about that.

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Wait. Tucker Carlson was on Infowars and like nobody even talked about it.

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They're mostly promoting his live dates.

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Yep.

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Oh, man.

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Yeah. It turns out it wasn't that big of a deal.

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This world is fucking...

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Tucker was on Infowars.

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...moved on.

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Yep. So we'll get down to business on this and see how that all played out. But first, let's say a little hello to some new walks.

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Oh, that's a great idea.

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Oh, God. So first, Wallasey Punk the Jollasey Yunk, Dollasey Yunk the Yalasey Dank, Pellasey Rink the Rellasey Pank, and Willasey Pank the Pellasey Wank.

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Thank you so much. You're now a policy wonk.

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I'm a policy wonk.

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Thank you very much.

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Thank you.

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Next, Nower the Squatch May Have No Heroes, But You Will Always Be Mine from Your New Wife.

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Eliza, thank you so much. You're now a policy wonk.

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I'm a policy wonk.

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Thank you very much.

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Might have been newer. I apologize.

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Yeah. Could be.

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Next, the People's Princess, Louis de Pont du Lac. Thank you so much. You're now a policy wonk.

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I'm a policy wonk.

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Thank you very much. But you get a little stink on that. De Pont.

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I took French.

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I don't know.

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And thank you, Magic Trash Can. Thank you so much. You're now a policy wonk.

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I'm a policy wonk.

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Thank you very much.

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Thank you. And we get a technocrat in the mix, Jordan. So thank you so much to You People Are My People and I Love You More Than Alex Loves Andy. Thank you so much. You're now a technocrat.

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I'm a policy wonk.

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Four stars. Go home to your mother and tell her you're brilliant.

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Someone, someone sodomite sent me a bucket of poop.

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Daddy shark.

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Jar Jar Binks has a Caribbean black accent.

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He's a loser. Little, little titty baby.

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I don't want to hate black people. I renounce Jesus Christ.

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Thank you so much.

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And don't forget, if you want to get your shout out, make sure you email knowledgefight at gmail dot com.

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Just toss that over there and Jordan will put you on a list.

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Yeah, we got, we got one front page. We got, you know, just letting people know.

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Uh, so, uh, I wanted to, like I said, I wanted to do an episode on Wednesday.

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Sure.

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And I think part of that was because we did Jimmy Dore on Monday and, you know, it just felt kind of half.

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It was sour.

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Half show, you know?

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Yeah, yeah, yeah.

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Um, and so I wanted to get back to Alex.

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Uh, but then the 27th happened and, you know, Tucker's on.

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So you stop the presses.

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Sure.

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We don't need to recap shit.

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Nope.

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You just got to get into this. He's the most important man in the world.

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Of course.

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Um, and so, uh, yeah, here we go. We're going to jump in.

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All right.

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Ladies and gentlemen, thank you so much for joining us today.

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I am your host, Alex Jones.

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We are 69 days, the most important election in world history, and we have a massive broadcast lined up for you here today.

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It is Tuesday, August 27th, 2024.

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All right.

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Tucker Carlson is joining us in the third hour to cover all the incredible developments.

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Ivan Reikland has been involved in congressional hearings that just started yesterday into the attempted assassination, ongoing cover up of President Trump.

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He's got a lot of the latest information in the inside scoop.

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There's 100 percent a stand down and an ongoing cover up.

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Never a press conference, never anything about the murder weapon or the attempted murder weapon.

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Nothing about how the Patsy got his body cremated.

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It's insane.

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They want us to forget about this.

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We're not going to forget about this.

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That is coming up at the bottom of the hour with an update from Ivan Reikland.

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Oh, so we got a guest appearance from the most important man on earth.

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So you got to cover this episode.

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And then now we got the future secretary of retribution, Ivan Reikland.

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On top of that, this episode is going to be played in history classes in the future.

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Generations will look back on this episode as a text.

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I worry sometimes that the truth is not, you don't know how far into the future the future goes.

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It could be, it could be.

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I will feel really, really bad if I'm joking around and then Ivan Reikland becomes the secretary of retribution.

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It will be, it'll be a rough day.

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It'll be a rough day for all of us, generally because we'll probably be retributed upon.

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I think there's some retribution.

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So incidentally, the FBI and Pennsylvania State Police did hold a press conference on the day of the attempted assassination.

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Alex saying there's no press conference.

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No, they did, yeah.

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Biden spoke that day and again the day after, the day after the shooting, the Secret Service, FBI, and Milwaukee law enforcement held a joint press conference to address the shooting as well as security concerns for the RNC.

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You can find all these videos really easily.

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All of them are on C-SPAN.

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Alex is just pretending none of this exists because lying about it is much easier as a way to make this narrative work.

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So that's fun.

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Yeah, it feels like if anybody is covering it up or at least not playing it hard enough, it is Trump.

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Because if it was me doing this, I'm running the campaign and I'm just like, buddy, somebody tried to kill you because you're so dangerous, et cetera.

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We're playing everything is also a result of them trying to kill me.

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You know what I'm saying?

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Do you know why they got Harris? Because they couldn't kill me. So they had to do that.

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Because she's just another option for trying to kill me.

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Everything is because they couldn't kill me.

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Yeah, I think that it's good that he's not doing that.

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No, I agree.

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But if I were running for president and someone shot at me, I mean, it would be a situation where who knows what the fuck I'm going to do.

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Right.

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If I'm in uncharted territory, I'm probably going to go crazy and basically start yelling at the shit you're talking about.

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Why not? Absolutely.

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What do we do?

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Oh, no, we're going to run on policy?

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That's really what we're doing?

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They shot at me.

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Yes, exactly.

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What are you talking about?

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Oh, we're going to increase tax.

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Shut up.

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Right.

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Oh, J.D. Vance is weird?

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Is he?

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You're goddamn right.

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He is.

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Shoot at him.

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It would be nonstop for me.

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It seems strange that what he's doing instead is trying to sell digital collectors cards.

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Yeah, it does seem strange.

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Almost like it's all scam shit.

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Always has been.

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So Mark Zuckerberg wrote a little bit of a letter.

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Sure.

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I don't know if you heard about this.

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I did. I did.

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Alex has, too.

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Wow.

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Zuckerberg comes out yesterday and says, OK, you caught me because members of the administration have been lying.

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Biden's been lying and Kamala has been lying and Mayorkas has been lying and the attorney general has been lying.

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This year and last year, those weaponization.

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Hearings, weaponization of the censorship hearings, weaponization of the media hearings.

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And so Zuckerberg, though, I guess, doesn't want to perjure himself.

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So he wrote a letter yesterday saying, OK, yes, I was pressured.

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I did censor for the election.

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I election model.

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He also spent four hundred and fifty some million to categorize all the names of dead people or folks that have moved out of district and gave them to illegal aliens and others to vote.

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And stuff the ballot boxes in the drop boxes.

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So that's ultra massive.

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Wow.

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So Zuckerberg didn't say that stuff in the letter.

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It seems it would be wild for him to admit to committing several, if not multiple, multiple felonies in a letter to a sitting congressman would be an interesting choice.

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So he just said that the Biden administration pressured them to remove content that would be dangerous around covid and that he would resist those kinds of pressures in the future.

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This raises an interesting point because legitimately nothing in the letter that Zuckerberg wrote is news.

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But I think it's the first time that we have this big CEO expressing personally that he felt pressured by the requests made by the government.

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And this is where things are kind of murky.

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Like, is it OK for a government entity to make requests that you can feel pressured to acquiesce to if you're the head of a big company?

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I would reframe this question and ask, is it even possible for a government entity to make a request of a big CEO that can never be experienced as applying pressure?

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That is to say, is implied or subtle pressure always a part of government communication?

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And I think the answer to that question is yes, which is why it's important as an individual to know your rights when you're dealing with law enforcement.

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In the same way, by communicating with the government, Zuckerberg has put himself in a position where there's just going to be a feeling of pressure and it's his responsibility to navigate that.

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Once the government is mandating what he must do, then it's far closer to coercion. And that's a totally different conversation.

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But if requests are understood to be pressure, I think that might be a natural and unavoidable part of communication between government and business.

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And in his letter, Zuckerberg even says, quote, Ultimately, it was our decision whether or not to take content down.

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And we own our decisions, including covid-19 related changes we made to our enforcement in the wake of this pressure.

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He felt pressure, but there's no indication from his letter that the government acted in any coercive way.

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If I were Zuckerberg, I think I would feel constantly a little worried about pressure coming from the government, considering all the, you know, accusations of antitrust type activity and monopolistic practices.

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That's mind blowing. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, I would shit in the government's mouth pretty much nonstop. I would shit in Biden's fucking mouth.

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I can understand why you would have an approach of some hubris, but I would also think that the only thing that is like potentially stopping you from being able to exercise your business exactly how you want to.

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Right. Is theoretical government oversight. Right. So I would be a little bit worried about that.

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I mean, I think what's great about this is there's going to be an awesome test case for why he should continue shitting in the government's mouth.

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And it's that Google is now illegal and they're not going to do anything about it. He's written this letter to Jim Jordan, too, which is a little bit of a tell.

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So Alex is really going to have to lie to make this letter fit his narratives because it's a bit of an uncomfortable crossroad.

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Before that letter was published, Zuckerberg was the evilest of evil globalists who wanted to fistfight Elon Musk and who spent his own money to make databases to steal the election for Trump.

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In order for this letter to actually work the way Alex wants it to, he's got to make so many more confessions than he actually does in the letter.

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As it stands, it just kind of is saying that Zuckerberg is like, I'm a weak leader for a media platform. I'm super concerned about my public image.

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Yeah, that's kind of how it feels. Yeah, that's more what it feels like, which is again, it's like, man, what's the point of being so super rich if you have to write a letter like that to Jim Jordan?

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What are you doing, man? It does ruin the fun a little bit. Go somewhere and just be rich as shit and don't do anything that makes you write a letter to Jim Jordan.

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Right. You have all the choices in the world. And Alex can't do stuff that's like, oh no, Zuckerberg is coming clean.

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Like you pretended to go to Hawaii to find his compound. Exactly. Where the locals are going to murder him when the shit goes down. Exactly. Calm down, man.

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That's what I'm saying. If you are Zuckerberg, be the guy with the compound. Sure. Yeah.

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So Governor Abbott has made some news out of Texas because he has announced that he's kicked a bunch of people off the voter rolls. Great.

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And so Alex talks about that here.

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It's just the level of lying when you think they can't turn up the lies anymore, when the lies backfire on them, when the lies don't work anymore.

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Their answer is just get even crazier. And they've caught all these millions of illegal aliens signed up and dead people to vote.

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Just in Texas alone, a bunch of other states found the same thing and just expunged them off the rolls.

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And the Democrats are going into total conniption fits, filing lawsuits to keep the illegal aliens and dead people on the voter rolls.

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I mean, you can't make that up. Just in Texas alone, Governor Greg Abbott removes over one million ineligible voters, including nearly 500,000 dead people and illegal aliens.

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I mean, wow.

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So recently, Texas Governor Greg Abbott announced that they had removed approximately a million ineligible voters from the Texas rolls.

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In the real world, this is something that happens kind of regularly. Every state has a process in place to routinely trim the rolls.

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But it's obviously not a perfect system. And generally, folks that care about civil liberties agree that it's best to err on the side of not restricting voting access.

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Making sure that everyone's on the roll, who is a fully qualified voter, that's a process that would take an almost comical amount of time and organization.

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And the funding and infrastructure doesn't really exist to handle that on the state level.

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So in the case of Texas, they have processes like sending notices to potentially dead voters or voters who have moved and not updated their registration location.

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It takes multiple times not hearing back to justify kicking someone off the rolls, which is good, but it's also kind of inefficient.

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The Democrats aren't suing Abbott. He's being sued by civil liberties groups that argue that his purge of the rolls is illegal because it's unclear what standards his office used to make the cuts,

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and because it's a federal crime to remove voters from the rolls within 90 days of an election.

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This is a provision that's important because if it weren't there, it would be super easy for a state to widely disenfranchise particular groups of people by erroneously kicking them off voter rolls close to an election so they wouldn't have the time to sort it out before it was time to vote.

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Or more simply, you could just create more administrative hurdles to suppress voter turnout this way.

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For instance, in this case, over 6,500 alleged non-citizens were kicked off the voter rolls, but no basis was given for determining these non-citizens.

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It's very possible that some of these people are people who, like, they have a right to vote and they've been misidentified, so they're having their votes deprived by this. That's very possible.

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Texas did this in 2019 when their secretary of state's office flagged 95,000 registered voters as being ineligible.

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As that number was examined closer, it was discovered that these people were almost all mistakenly flagged.

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In one county, the elections administrator had been sent a list of 8,035 people who quote-unquote shouldn't be on the rolls,

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and the Texas Tribune reported that he ended up finding two non-citizens in the bunch, both of whom marked that they were not citizens on their registrations, but who had accidentally been added to the rolls by the, like, office side of things.

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Sure, sure, sure, sure.

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It was not their fault.

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Right, right, right. They just chose everybody with the last name Garcia for some reason. No idea. Crazy.

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This was a big scandal, and Secretary of State David Whitley had to resign when it all came to light because of how...

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Because it's illegal.

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...glaring this was.

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Yeah, yeah, yeah.

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This kind of action is generally not motivated by a need to clean up the voter rolls, this kind of push to get people off the voter rolls.

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Yeah.

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It's a political move to push illegal voting narratives, and it's also a voter intimidation tactic primarily aimed at naturalized citizens who can vote, but couldn't at some point when they lived in the country.

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So, like, they may have answered, I'm not a citizen, to a past time they filled out a form.

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It's very easy to get a lot of these people sort of swept up when you're not careful.

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Yeah.

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And that's kind of the point of doing this.

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If I was going to make a bet, right, I would say that if they made it so everybody could vote, no registration required, and you could vote as many times as you wanted, nobody was going to ask any questions.

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95% of the people in this country would do the exact same thing they're doing right now. We'd have about 45% show up to vote, but there would be a weird 2% that voted like 7,000 times.

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Like, that's just who we are as a people.

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That's entirely possible.

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That would be a weird thought experiment.

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Honestly, it would lead to more democratic outcomes.

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I think probably it would skew that way.

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If you understand what Alex is talking about in the correct context, the story he's covering is about how he supports voter suppression efforts and wants to demonize civil liberty groups who are trying to protect access to voting, which is nuts.

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That's not what he's supposed to believe, but that's where he's at.

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Yeah. Yeah.

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I mean, at the same time, though, I don't know how to remember the Alamo quite as well as kicking non-white people off of your ballot in Texas.

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Yeah.

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You know what I mean?

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I guess so.

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So we go to a little Trump interview that Alex plays a clip of, and it's a spoiler alert. It's him talking about how maybe you put Elon Musk in the cabinet.

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Oh, great. Great!

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You can hear Alex in the background very obsessively yelling out about how many views Trump and Elon's interview got.

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So here's Trump. The election will be the most important day, in my opinion, in the history of our country.

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No, I agree, because it's our country goes the wrong way in this election.

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I think we're doomed.

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And then he goes on here to talk about A.I. and a bunch of other key subjects, and I'm going to give you my take on that.

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Here's clip one.

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I read that Elon Musk said that he would accept a position in your cabinet.

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Would that have to do with artificial intelligence?

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So Elon and I have a great relationship.

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He's great. He is a totally unusual character.

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Do you know Elon?

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I don't.

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He's great.

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And he's smart.

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And we have to cherish our geniuses.

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You know, we don't have too many of them, right?

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But he is a brilliant guy.

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And what he really would like to do is get involved in cutting some of the fat.

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And he does know how to do it.

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And he loves the country.

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You know, it's just an amazing thing.

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We had a conversation the other day.

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You would know better than me, but I hear it had hundreds of millions of people.

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I heard it had the biggest audience over a million.

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I mean, would you say that's correct?

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Absolutely.

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There's never been anything even close.

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I heard seven hundred and fifty million people.

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I mean, numbers that are crazy and unbelievable.

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A billion plus clicked on it.

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Yeah, he wants to be involved now.

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Look, he's running big businesses and all that.

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But hundreds of millions watch the whole thing.

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He could be the cabinet.

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I put him in the cabinet.

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Absolutely.

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But I don't know how he could do that with all the things he's got going.

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But he can sort of, as the expression goes, consult with the country.

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As the expression goes.

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Yeah, I like that Alex is just his preoccupation.

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He needs to butt in.

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Bill it!

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Yeesh!

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Because that's what's important to him, his views and attention.

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But.

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Can Trump hear him?

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Yeah, probably.

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Well, I mean, they're telepathically connected if you believe Alex.

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That is helpful.

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Um, I do think that we are dangerously close to the potential for creating a real team

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of shitheads.

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Like, you got Trump advance.

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Yep.

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And then in the cabinet, you got RFK Junior.

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Hey, I mean.

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You got Elon Musk.

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Maybe Ivan Reichlet is the Secretary of Retribution.

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Hey, listen, we earned it.

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I don't think that they would make those choices, but it's bleak.

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It's just so funny reading an article now from anybody that's just like, oh, this is

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Harris' first big test.

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And you're like, no, no, no, no, no.

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Nope.

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Nope.

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The test was 2016.

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And the test was failed.

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And now you're failing it again.

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This has nothing to do with her.

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Right.

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I think it's possible that Trump would make Elon Musk the Secretary of State.

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First test.

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Failed.

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Failed.

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Okay.

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So, uh, Trump has failed a little bit of test on Alex's part too, as far as Alex is concerned.

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And that is that he likes nuclear power.

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And Alex likes coal because we have clean coal.

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Sure.

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And so Alex complains about that.

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And I think that this clip is a really good snapshot of his feelings about Trump.

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Okay.

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But nuclear is very powerful.

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Very good.

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Nope.

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The wind doesn't work.

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It's very expensive.

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Kills the birds, destroys everything around it.

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It's very, very, very, very bad.

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It's the most expensive energy wind.

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And then every nine years you have to replace the turbines.

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You know, they're made out of steel and they wear out.

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But we will create tremendous electricity for our company, for our country.

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And that will allow AI to compete.

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And you're right.

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Whoever gets that, it's going to be a big advantage.

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You know, that's going to be sort of the oil of the future and we have to be the main player.

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And there's not enough in every study currently for all the electric cars.

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So you've got to have more electricity for that.

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They want to ration it from us and give it to AI.

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Not a good idea.

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We need coal.

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We need it now.

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We got thousands of years of it just here.

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Now let's go to Trump on free speech.

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I totally agree with this.

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We don't have free speech.

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Then we just don't have a free country.

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So that clip I think really sums up Alex's relationship with Trump.

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He doesn't like what he actually says a lot of the time

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because Trump's positions on a bunch of shit should be deal breakers for him.

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When Trump talks you run the risk of him saying things like

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we need to move away from coal and use nuclear power to fuel the AI arms race with China.

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Which Alex should oppose on so many levels.

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On every level.

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There shouldn't be an AI arms race and Alex loves coal.

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Climate change is a hoax and we need to burn more coal.

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So why isn't Trump saying that?

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This is all bullshit.

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This is insane.

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On the flip side Alex really loves edited packages of Trump over swelling music.

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Where someone with a knack for marketing has spliced together Trump saying exciting things about free speech.

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This is the Trump that Alex supports.

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Whereas the real person is just kind of a frustration.

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You hear him and you're like nope, not nuclear, coal.

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Yeah, it is a little bit like I genuinely don't care what a candidate is.

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What their name is.

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What their policy positions are.

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If I hear an interview with them saying like I am going to kill Jordan Holmes' dog.

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That's the deal breaker for me.

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The end.

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No more conversation.

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You know.

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You can't kill my dog.

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I think that's a little selfish.

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It is selfish and that's how I'm going to live.

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You can't kill my dog.

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You're a single issue voter.

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I'm a single issue voter.

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Fanny lives forever.

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Okay, well Harris has yet to speak out on this issue.

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I mean if she goes the wrong way she's lost a vote.

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I know that Tim Walz wouldn't kill your dog.

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That's what I'm talking about.

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So we got Ivan Reikland coming in.

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Future Secretary of Retribution and overall weirdo.

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And so Alex introduces him.

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Okay.

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This is absolutely huge.

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At Ivan Reikland on X.

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Reikland.com.

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He's a former Green Beret Lieutenant Colonel recovering lawyer.

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Ultra marathoner operating at the intersection between national security, stardust politics, and law.

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And they've got a big conference coming up that's not just a congressional hearing to focus on the folks that are at the hearings.

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The J-13 forum.

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8-26-24. 12 p.m. Eastern livestream.

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We'll be talking about that.

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So as Alex has been hyping up Reikland being on the show.

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He's been saying that he's involved with congressional hearings.

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As it turns out this actually is about a livestream about Trump's attempt at assassination that was held on the 26th by the Heritage Foundation.

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Featuring Eric Prince, Dan Bongino, and Matt Gaetz.

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Right.

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It was more or less a publicity stunt kind of thing and Ivan wasn't even a panelist on that.

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But he is the Secretary of Retribution so it makes sense that he'd be here with Alex as a representative.

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I mean in terms of retribution matters, an assassination attempt is pretty high up there.

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That is where retribution comes in.

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Yeah.

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So he's the person to talk to.

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Yeah, yeah. I mean, Eric Prince being on that list makes me feel futile.

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And I mean that in the feudal lord sense of like, oh this is the leader of the fucking, this is Game of Thrones shit.

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Oh the Second Son's company is also being led by Eric Prince and so he's got a fucking thing with the Game of Thrones.

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Like what are we doing?

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I sent a bird, I sent a raven to Peter Thiel.

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Yeah, absolutely.

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I'm waiting on a reply.

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One hundred percent, yes.

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What are we doing?

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So you know they're investigating Trump's assassination attempt in Pennsylvania.

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Yes.

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They're doing that.

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Right, because I mean.

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Bap, bap, bap.

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That's fake.

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Do they need to?

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I think someone should ask some questions.

Unknown Speaker (00:30:46.039)

No, for sure.

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Yeah.

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But the real investigation is fake.

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Right.

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The real fake investigation, which is this Heritage Foundation publicity stunt.

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Right.

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That's the real investigation.

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Okay, I like it.

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It's showcased to the American public and to inform the Republican conference that Speaker

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Johnson had appointed these other RINO individuals to perform the official investigation of July 13th.

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Meanwhile, none of those people, practically none of those people on that committee have any experience in looking into this.

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And they were selected by design.

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I'm of the opinion, Alex, that they were appointed by Mike Johnson at the direction of Paul Ryan so that they wouldn't.

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What?

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Identify and implicate Paul Ryan's and potential involvement.

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What?

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In this op, if you will, because the timing of it is so suspect.

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So suspect.

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I'm sorry?

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Paul Ryan apparently tried to kill Trump.

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I don't know.

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The timing of it would be suspect if we were 20 years ago, 10 years ago, something like that, whatever that was.

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Yeah, I was pretty shocked.

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Now the timing is not suspect for Paul Ryan.

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I was pretty shocked to hear Paul Ryan's name.

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Yeah, that one's...

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Yeah.

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So apparently he is applying undue pressure on Mike Johnson.

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Yeah.

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To make a fake investigation into the assassination attempt because they don't want those threads to be pulled that would implicate Paul Ryan.

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Paul Ryan!

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Paul Ryan!

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Paul Ryan!

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Char!

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Rino.

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Paul Rino.

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That's what I mean.

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What was the last time you even heard Paul Ryan's name mentioned in a sentence that's important?

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It's been quite a while.

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It's been a while.

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And now he's killed Trump, so maybe that's, or he tried, so maybe that's the motive.

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It's quite a rebrand.

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From really boring vice presidential candidate to Trump assassination organizer.

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That would be a hell of a rebrand.

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Yeah.

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So I think Ivan might just be a little bit nuts.

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Could be.

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Could be.

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We laughed quite a bit on the last time he was on because he offered amnesty.

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Yeah, it was very kind of him.

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Again.

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He set, I think, an early September date as the cutoff for amnesty.

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Which makes sense.

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You know, you can't just let it be forever.

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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I mean, you have to be fair, but also strong.

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There's a cutoff date.

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Yeah.

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So he, I think, believes that Mark Zuckerberg wrote his letter in order to get in the window

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for the amnesty.

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I like that.

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What's his name?

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Fake book.

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When he came out with that comment yesterday, he's basically begging for mercy.

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He's begging for amnesty.

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And now I did a call out saying that September 3rd is your last day for amnesty.

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If you're going to come out as a whistleblower, it doesn't apply to the principles on my deep

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state target list.

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Mark Zuckerberg is the principle on that list, which means even though he is apologizing

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for his genocidal participation with his censorship, he's not going to get amnesty.

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If I have anything to do it, which I will as long as I'm alive, I am going to guarantee

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maximum consequences for Zuckerberg's involvement in censoring speech that ended up killing

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and murdering tens of thousands at a minimum.

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So I bet Zuckerberg feels real stupid hearing that.

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Yeah.

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Yep.

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He gave it his best shot.

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And now to find out later on.

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That's bullshit.

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Yeah.

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That's bullshit.

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That's like finding out that you're a Nazi scientist and you're not invited to America.

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It's the fine print.

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Yeah.

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It's the fine print.

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Zuckerberg didn't pay attention to the fine print.

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The amnesty offer.

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It was the goddamn licensing agreements.

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Every time he just clicks, I agree.

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There is something about this Ivan that is fun in a like, he's just living his dream.

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He cut him.

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And then the second part is he has this like fake book and constantly calls the FBI, FBI,

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FBI lies.

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Ooh, I love it.

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I love it.

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It's a little bit much.

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I like a, I like a little zinger.

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I like to get it in.

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He's a, he's a showman.

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Yep.

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So RFK endorsed Trump.

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Sure.

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And this is a big deal according to Alex and the future secretary of retroversion.

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Okay.

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And the time we have left, how big, cause it's bigger than I thought it would be.

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I thought it would be huge.

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I was given the inside Intel broke it last Tuesday, but, but, but how big was this RFK

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and now Tulsi Gabbard's endorsement?

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I'm seeing an exodus now because a lot of Democrats know that they're destroying their

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future supporting Kamala.

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This gives them kind of the cover politically to publicly speak out for Trump.

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I mean, I'm seeing an explosion of even more interest and even mainline analysts, the Democrat

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Republican party, like Frank Luntz said, this just gives it to Trump.

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We shouldn't be overconfident and confident because obviously they've got a lot of tricks

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up her sleeves.

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But this was big.

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No, I saw that you broke it and I'm glad that you did because it gave me a little bit more

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time to kind of analyze this.

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If you look at the timeline from last weekend to Monday or over the weekend on Friday is

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when the endorsement took place and you saw the crowd in Arizona.

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They went absolutely nuts.

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I've never seen or heard such a ovation of support when RFK came on stage other than

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obviously for president Trump could save.

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So RFK endorsing Trump is a big deal and it's a big deal in exactly and only the way Ivan

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is expressing it.

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This endorsement makes RFK very popular among Trump fans, but doesn't do much else.

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His favorability among Republicans jumped 17% because they wanted to like him already,

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but they weren't allowed to because he was Trump's enemy.

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I just don't know what kind of demographic exists that was ambivalent about voting for

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Trump, but then RFK endorsed him and that flipped them.

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This is a big win for RFK and that he expands his potential audience, particularly to a

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crowd addicted to strong men leader worship.

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But in terms of the election, this feels like a zero.

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I mean, there's another story of him cutting an animal's head off and putting it on something.

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I missed this one.

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I think it was a shark now.

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I think there's a story about him cutting a shark's head off and putting it on a boat.

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This is, this is, I don't even know what to tell you.

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And furthermore, how do you, this is again, this is the dog thing.

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Was it a bit?

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Probably.

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Okay.

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Cause if it was a bit, I'm going to allow it.

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I don't know.

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I don't even know.

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I don't even know.

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But the thing is, right.

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I still just don't get the, the like, okay, and now I'm going to endorse him.

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Your narrative is he murdered millions upon millions of people.

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This is, you can't murder my dog.

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I will stop.

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I won't vote for you.

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And I understand the political blah, blah, blah.

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Operation Warp Speed should be equivalent to your dog.

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Yeah.

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And they, they act like it, but you know, I don't think it's sincere.

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No.

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How is that possible?

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How can you believe that they murdered 20 million people and then also be like, well,

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we got to give them another go.

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I don't know.

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I don't know.

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It's, it's baffling.

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But if you're RFK, this is exactly what you should be doing.

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Totally.

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Like I understand that.

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You should not be abusing animals.

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I didn't, I didn't, I don't know the full story of this shark thing, so I don't want

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to comment on it.

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I don't want to comment any further on it either.

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So Alex says farewell to the future secretary and decides to take some calls before Tucker

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shows up.

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Okay.

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And so he wants to take calls mostly on Zuckerberg and shit.

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Zuckerberg.

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We're going to take first time callers again today.

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And let's just put 10 on the board because the call system will take 20 plus calls.

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Ten calls to the board that way everybody gets on air and intersperse with the news.

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Ten callers.

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We're going to take on this subject, we're opening the phones up right now.

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Election 2024 Zuckerberg coming out and saying, yeah, they told me to censor, manipulate the

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election.

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I'm not going to lie.

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I'm not, I'm not going to lie.

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You got me.

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I decided to meddle with the election.

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It's so interesting to phrase it this way too.

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It's the way you're going to, it's, it's just, it's going to be disappointing.

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Yeah.

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Zuckerberg is not going to live up to your expectations.

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You already have Musk.

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You don't need another, you don't need another tech billionaire guy social media platform.

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Also, by any possible metric you have internally, if he says he's not going to lie, that is

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meaningless.

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You think he's a liar.

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Based on the character that you have presented me with up till this point, I should not trust

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him saying I've been lying.

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You're saying that he's a liar, right?

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So why would you trust him now?

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Seems foolish.

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It seems insane.

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So there's still some, you know, I don't think Alex actually gets that many calls.

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I'm starting to think that maybe spaces might be a tactical decision going to those as opposed

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to going to calls.

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Yeah.

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He's got to kill some time.

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Sure.

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And why not?

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Tucker is going to be coming on.

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Let's listen to a clip of Tucker talking to Glenn Beck.

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Great.

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And they're globalist and they're out to get us.

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They've resolved our borders.

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So here's Tucker asking the most important question.

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Look at what's happening over in Europe with their illegal problem or their refugees and

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how the governments over there are responding to the people.

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And you see, it's exactly the same problems.

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It's exactly the same laws, the same responses, the same media response.

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And then, you know, that Joe Biden is incapable.

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Who the hell has been the president?

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Who is running this country?

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Well, what you're seeing around the world is really not around the world.

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It's just in traditional Christian countries.

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Yes.

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In the West.

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It's in Christendom.

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It's not happening in Asia.

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It's not happening in Singapore.

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It's not happening in the Legos, Nigeria.

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It's not happening, of course, in China or Japan.

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These are still ethno states.

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No one can test their right to be that.

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It's happening in the historic homeland of Christianity from Scandinavia.

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Really all the way to Hungary in central Europe is kind of the border.

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They held the line.

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But everywhere else, Ireland, what did Ireland do to deserve this?

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But the same thing is happening everywhere.

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And you think, well, is this is this a conspiracy?

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Is it a manifestation of spiritual war?

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That's my conclusion.

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You know, I have no real evidence, but I don't see another explanation that makes sense.

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I don't know.

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It's all happening at once.

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It's, as you said, exactly the same thing.

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It's much bigger than just, you know, the refugee agencies pushing people in because

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they're liberal and the media is supporting them because they're liberal, too.

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This is the end of a civilization.

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It's a spiritual war.

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And Tucker has no evidence of this, but he believes that he has a holy mandate to have

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an ethno state.

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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This is pretty fucked up.

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That's great.

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Yeah.

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That's great.

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Good stuff.

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Good stuff all around, everybody.

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I mean, even take the stuff away about the ethno state business of this all.

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Sure.

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And like, let's remove that a little bit.

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Yeah.

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And really just like microscope in on Tucker being like, I think this is a spiritual war

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between demons and angels.

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Now, I have no evidence of that, but that's kind of what I think.

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Yeah.

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You should be laughed out of the public conversation.

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Yeah.

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It shouldn't be allowed.

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Right.

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If someone was making this argument in favor of something that I was like pro for, I would

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think like, this is a bad way to make that argument, man.

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It looks bad.

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Okay.

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Did we ever get full on, like, I apologize and I resign letters from every person who

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wrote a Glenn Beck has changed thing?

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No.

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Never?

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No, but we've gotten over this.

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Not one?

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We've, I think Glenn Beck's gone through like three cycles since then.

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See what I'm saying?

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Yeah.

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I don't think this should be allowed.

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No.

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This is the guy who's letting Tucker on his show say he wants an ethnostate.

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And it's a holy mandate.

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And it's a holy mandate.

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Sure.

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And let's not like just gloss over the fact that this is Alex Jones playing a clip of

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Glenn Beck and Tucker Carlson.

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What is this?

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Presumably Glenn Beck is a ripoff of him who the CIA was trying to set up to like disempower

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Alex as an entity.

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Yep.

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And he sends a bow tie wearing, uh, uh, uh, rhino thing.

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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Strange bedfellows.

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Doesn't even begin to cover it.

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Nope.

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So Alex and a caller, they, uh, they get to talking about, uh, how their soldiers, uh,

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for God, but really for Trump and if Trump doesn't win the election, they will use force

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to seize the infrastructure.

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That's not good.

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That's not good.

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Hey, look at how God, look at how God put his finger on the scale and turned Trump's

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head.

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We just pray to God.

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God is going to use Trump.

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Trump's given us all these comms man deputized just the other day.

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What did he say about deputizing hundreds of thousands that that gentleman's talking

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about?

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UN troops.

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Look at our army that we have in this country if we needed to activate it, meaning, meaning

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all of us.

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You know what I mean?

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And that's right.

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And then we'll have governors and attorney generals and the president on our side and

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we will just simply go into the power plants and go into the corporate facilities that

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the globalists have seized and we will just remove them legally and lawfully.

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God's going to move his mighty hand here shortly, Alex.

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I think we all know that all of us believers, I think the hand's already moving already.

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Eddie Bravo, Eddie Bravo and I and Rogan were on the phone the other night and Eddie was

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like, is the dam breaking?

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And I said, Eddie, the dam already broke.

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It burned to the ground.

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Yeah.

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Noted stupid person.

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He's pretty blunt.

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Yep.

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I mean, yeah.

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Yeah, yeah, yeah.

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If we cannot take power through legitimate means, our militias and a bunch of weirdos

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will take over infrastructure and seize it from the globalists.

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Yeah, I do appreciate a good removing of the veneer of democracy and returning to the truth

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of extortion.

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Yeah.

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Well, but like, hey, dumb dumb, isn't this what you tried to do on January 6th?

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Like that's exactly what they tried to do on January 6th.

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And the people who did it were arrested because they were the militias.

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You didn't have enough guys.

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They left their guns over at the other side of the lake.

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Yeah.

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They chunked it.

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So yeah.

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I don't know.

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It's just very, it's very direct.

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I feel like if you're listening to this and you can't really, I'm not saying that they're

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going to do this, but they can't pretend this isn't what they're talking about.

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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And that's, that is kind of the interesting thing about January 6th having happened and

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Trump still being alive.

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He's like, that's the, that's the subtext under everything.

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There's no reason to dispense with that as like, and not even subtext, that's the text.

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Like if I don't get what I want January 6th and I'll tell you how I know that because

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January 6th, you know, it's like, it's yeah.

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But it'll probably be a little bit worse at least.

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I mean, or, or even more disappointing, it will be nothing and it'll turn out that nobody

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actually wanted to do it.

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Alex single-handedly takes over a power plant.

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Yeah.

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I mean, I don't know.

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We might be doing a Yukio Mishima.

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Why not?

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Fucking go for it.

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I'm just, I'm just upset with how pretty clear this is in terms of the conversation.

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Strategically.

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I would just throw this out there.

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Don't put it on the air.

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Sure.

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I mean, it does, you know, that Matt Bracken talking about how we're going to storm the

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White House.

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Not good.

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I think that that being recorded was tough and this is kind of in that same territory.

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Yeah, yeah, yeah.

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So, Alex Tucker, I think he is late or something.

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At one point, Alex is taking the call and he just completely ignores the person and

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is like, oh, sorry, someone came in to the studio and was stopping.

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I think they were saying that Tucker is running a little late or something because he ends

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up just playing a bunch of clips about how Muslims are stabbing people everywhere.

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Ah, play music.

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Yeah, it would have been better.

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It would have been better.

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And if you try to show this in England, they try to arrest you.

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Let's roll this video.

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For radio listeners, I will narrate it.

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Muslim man seen climbing into a woman's apartment.

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He ended up stabbing one of her guests.

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This is in Sweden.

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It's so wonderful to see cultural enrichment in action, I wrote.

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In evil America, the woman might have had a gun to protect herself.

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In loving, liberal Europe, we can thank the state.

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People are defenseless and cannot stop such wonderful things.

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Play it with audio.

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Mohammed.

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You call me intimate?

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So Alex said, I wrote, you know, like he's just recapping his racist tweets.

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That's basically what this segment of the show is.

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No, he's reading racist tweets.

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Like conceivably he posted himself or someone else posted from the Alex Jones Twitter account.

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Right, right, right.

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So he's Doug Benson-ing.

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Yeah.

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Yes.

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Yeah.

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Yes.

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All right.

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Except he's not high.

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Maybe a better show.

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So this video that Alex plays is from last May, 2023, and the attacker in this case has

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already been charged and sentenced to two years in prison for stabbing one man.

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Once he's served his prison time, he'll be deported and barred from ever reentering Sweden.

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Alex is presenting this video as a migrant just randomly climbing in someone's window

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and attacking them, but there's more context here.

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This man was using a ladder to try to climb into his ex-girlfriend's home and attack her.

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The guy who got stabbed was a friend of hers who was trying to talk him down.

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This attacker was a danger to the people around him, but his status as a migrant has nothing

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to do with that.

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The issue here was one of domestic violence, but Alex is using this to depict some kind

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of random migrant crime wave, even though it's over a year old as a video and doesn't

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relate really.

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This is a dude who's trying to incite hatred on racial and xenophobic lines.

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Yeah.

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Yeah, you know, I mean, if you really want to just let all of our labels go, let all

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of our stuff go, all of our things that we get excited about go, I think a lot of our

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problems really just are domestic violence.

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There's a lot of it.

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Just men being too allowed to be.

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There's a lot of problems that spring from that well.

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Yeah.

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That is definitely true.

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Yep.

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So one of the problems that springs from all sorts of wells is Tucker Carlson.

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Nice transition.

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It was lazy.

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I like it.

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I don't think I landed it.

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You had some swagger to it.

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I liked it.

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I did.

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I did leave.

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You did.

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You got a little lean back.

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I liked it.

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You got a little fat joke.

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So, uh, Tucker comes around and Alex gives him a, the, the most important man in the

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world type of introduction is our guest now live on this Tuesday, August 22nd, 2024 transmission.

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Oh, he knows it's true.

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He's smiling, blushing the mighty Tucker Carlson from his compound in beautiful mountains of

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Maine.

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All right, ladies and gentlemen, he just came off that huge interview with RFK Jr.

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You can cut the excitement and suspense with a knife.

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The deep state is in total panic mode.

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We've only got him for a short time.

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Very gracious to pop in with us before we get into all the news.

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Tucker, you have got a string of super successful live podcast events with special guests across

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the country.

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I'm going to be with you.

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What is it?

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The 23rd coming up in Pennsylvania.

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I was talking off air.

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You think that's going to be the biggest event?

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Tell us about the tour.

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I know it's already very successful.

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People go to Tucker Carlson dot com forward slash events to get tickets, also VIP events

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for meet and greet.

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I can't wait to be part of this.

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Thank you so much for including me.

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Well, you're kind of the point of doing this whole tour revolves around you, and that's

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not flattery.

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It's sincere.

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Oh, God.

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Oh, my God.

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I would genuinely hope nobody were to reach out to the venue and let them know.

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It's by I don't know.

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I think.

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I do not.

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I went to the venue's web page and they're aware that Alex is on that.

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Oh, OK.

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OK.

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But it's the second time they tried to book Alex.

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Right.

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The other venue fell through.

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I gotcha.

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So now they've rebooked something.

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That makes sense.

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And apparently, I guess this place is fine.

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This place is fine with it.

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Gotcha.

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So, yeah, that was disturbing, though.

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This tour, you are the point of this tour.

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If there's ever been a level of flattery that should get you punched in the face, that is

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it.

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Well, here's the I go so many directions with Tucker.

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I think that he is one of the most cynical fucking insincere shits in the world.

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Yeah, he's a true monster.

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But then I also think he's pretty dumb, but not that dumb.

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I can't tell if he's trying to manipulate Alex with that or if that is couched in some

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sincere place that he's coming from.

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He's the type of dumb that knows enough to get away with shit.

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It's very easy to never actually learn things if people just assume that you know stuff.

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And so if you learn the stuff that makes people assume you know stuff, then you don't ever

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actually have to learn.

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So then you just get to say whatever you want.

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This is good to learn.

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Yeah.

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So I was really worried.

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When I hear Tucker say something like, you're the point of this tour, I'm like, what do

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you mean?

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Yeah, that's a good question.

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Can you clarify on that?

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So he talks a little bit here.

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The point of doing this whole tour revolves around you, and that's not flattery, it's

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sincere.

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By the way, being called the most powerful journalist in America, it really is like being

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the best caterer in the Central African Republic.

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I mean, it's such an disgusting business.

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I'm embarrassed even to be called a journalist.

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But no, the point is, and I'm always amazed to be on your show because the FBI has been

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trying to shut you down for so long and you're still here.

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So that just shows the power of one man's determination to defeat the machine.

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God bless you for that.

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But you can't censor a live event.

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And I'll be honest without getting into details, obviously, you're like the first person I

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wanted to have on in one of these stadium shows.

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And finding a venue for that, for the disgrace, the dangerous, the terrifying Alex Jones,

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you know, whose main crime was predicting 9-11 in detail, can have him, no profits allowed.

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It's hard to find a venue.

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Yeah, no shit.

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Most places don't want to be associated with Alex and has nothing to do with how Tucker

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saw an edited clip of Alex pretending to predict 9-11 in detail, and now he thinks he's a profit.

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If you're a venue, Alex is not worth the risk.

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He's a volatile drunk, his audience is not cool, and there's an unfortunately high chance

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that you might have to issue a statement after the show distancing yourself from what happened.

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If Tucker's version of freedom includes forcing venues to book shit like that, that seems

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dumb.

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And all I really hear here is complaining that it's trying to pass off feelings of entitlement

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as free speech.

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And that's garbage.

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Also, Tucker's joke about the Central African Republic catering business, is that supposed

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to be a joke about the food being bad, or the catering businesses there being corrupt?

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Or is it making fun of food insecurity?

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I don't know what the point of that joke was.

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I actually don't know what the joke is, yeah.

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It seems shitty.

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Whatever it is, it seems-

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Yeah, no, I'm sure it's shitty.

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It seems malicious.

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Yeah, it's so weird, because it's like, oh man, I could really go for... I know four

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restaurants off the top of my head right now, I was like, oh yeah, I can get some of that.

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You were jotting a note there.

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I am blown away.

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So I know how to lie.

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I can lie.

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That's fine.

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Lying, it's not complicated.

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We all do it.

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But generally, it's like, what you do is you have the kernel of the truth, and you just

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kind of wrap it around and oomph, and you get it across the line.

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I do not know how to baldface say shit to Alex the way Tucker does.

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That's the part-

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It's amazing.

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That's the part where I almost end up buying into his bullshit a little bit.

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Yeah.

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There is a part of me that's like, you must have seen this video, and you just accepted

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that Alex had this prophetic... It's the same thing as like, okay, if you're willing

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to say, I think this is a spiritual battle between demons and angels in the form of migration,

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I have no evidence of this, but this is just what I believe to be true.

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If you're willing to be that upfront about how little evidence you require of anything,

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then maybe you did just see this stupid edited video of Alex, and you're like, oh my God,

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oh my God, psychics are real.

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Are you that dumb?

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Is it possible?

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No.

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Ah.

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No, he's not.

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It can't be.

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Nope.

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It's just he has a... I've known that from so many rich people that I've met throughout

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my life, is their ability to lie is unparalleled, and that's usually how you get rich.

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It's amazing.

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It is.

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It's terrifying.

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In this case, it's right where I have the difficulty of finding my credulity.

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I just can't decide how stupid I think Tucker is.

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I know that there's a level of stupidity, and I know that there's a level of malicious

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manipulation that he's doing, and I just can't figure out exactly where that line is.

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Here's what you're going... I think I'm not going to say I know 100%, I don't know Tucker,

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but from my experience with the people who run hearing aid companies and people who do

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all that stuff, the trick isn't that they're lying.

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It's that they don't think you're a person, so they can say whatever... It's like when

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you're talking to your dog, oh, you're such a cute little... Or like, oh, you're such

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a bad... The dog can't understand you, so you can say whatever you want.

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It is very much that kind of similar style of like, I can't lie to a person who I believe

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is a person, but you, buddy, don't worry about it.

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I've seen... Oh my God.

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Yeah.

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I don't want to tell some of the stories.

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That may be.

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That may be the way Tucker just operates.

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Yeah.

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They're just crazy.

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I'm not sure.

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But there's a real... It's impossible that he's fully just stupid.

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Sure.

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Because there are just little moments where like, that is definitely... You know what

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you're doing.

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This is manipulative.

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It's hard to find a venue, and we found one in Redding, Pennsylvania, and I just thought,

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this is the whole point.

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This can't be censored.

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Google does not have control of a live event yet, and so people who are wondering like,

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oh, I've heard Alex Jones is the most terrifying person since Idi Amin.

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Is he really?

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They can come and find out for themselves, and that's kind of the promise of America

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is that we're citizens, we're not slaves, we're free men, and we get to hear and decide

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for ourselves.

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That's a complete farce of a point.

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Wow.

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Tucker's not allowing his audience to see Alex and decide for themselves.

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He's selling them on him and promoting Alex as a profit.

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Tucker wants to pretend that Alex is this entity that's so challenging to the system,

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and it's a revolutionary act for him to have him on the tour stop, because that plays into

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Tucker's own self-image.

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He can pretend that the goal is to let the audience decide for themselves about Alex,

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but Tucker hasn't even looked any deeper than an edited clip to decide that Alex can see

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the future.

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Why doesn't Tucker look a little deeper and see for himself why people might not like

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Alex?

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Probably because to do so would jeopardize their ability to make a shitload of money

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playing this false iconoclast role.

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Also, I went to check out this event.

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The website tickets are very still available.

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Ah, nice.

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This is not selling out quick, so that's fun.

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That's such a good point that he's selling it.

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That's why I immediately went to the hearing aids, because the hearing aid people, they're

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the people who are trying to like, oh, you have a hearing loss, so let's try and help

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you.

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They're the salesmen, who are just like, I met so many people who are like, these hearing

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aids aren't working, and then I'd find out that the guy hadn't even turned them on, and

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it's like, how could you be such a psychopath to sit there across from another human being

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and lie to their face for money, and then not even turn them on, man?

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It was insane.

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Commission's the same whether you turn them on or not.

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That's what I'm saying.

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That is exactly it.

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That's exactly it.

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It's crazy.

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It's amoral, not immoral.

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Yeah.

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That's what they want to believe.

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Psychopaths tend to.

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I think that when you are presenting things this way, you know what you're doing.

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You're not having Tim Walz on your show, you're not having him at one of your live dates,

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but you're having Kid Rock, and you're having J.D. Vance.

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You know what you're doing, you dumb shit.

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Don't fucking pretend that this is, I think everybody is entitled to see everybody in

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here and make their own decisions.

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Does that look so bad?

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No.

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You're the maestro.

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You're the ringmaster telling them that he isn't this bad.

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Yeah.

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I wonder if there is anything with more potential to out AI conversation than J.D. Vance and

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Tucker Carlson talking.

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What could they even possibly say to each other?

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You know what?

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No.

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No.

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They'll just say non-sequiturs back and forth, and people will be like, oh, what an interesting

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conversation.

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Don't talk like humans.

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I just had a terrible idea.

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What do you got?

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Tickets are very still available.

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No, we're not going.

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I'm not even saying going to Pennsylvania.

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I'm saying following this thing around like the Grateful Dead.

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All right.

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Well.

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Oh, man.

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It's hard to say no to that.

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Do you think we could give up September?

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Yeah.

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Yeah, fuck it.

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There is a really small part of me that actually wants to do this.

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Generally, we're mobile.

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I mean, we're-

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You have a car.

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We're recording out of your office.

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True.

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All of our stuff fits within one suitcase, and I mean that including all the things we

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own.

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All right.

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Let's think about this.

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Oh, God.

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We can't.

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No.

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But we can't not.

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You know, the thing that attracts me most to the idea of going to see the Stalker Live

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Show is that there's no mediator.

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It's just like a live experience.

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You're just seeing thoughts.

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And in a live event, there's no mediator.

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There's nobody.

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There's no gatekeeper.

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There's nobody to stop you from hearing, there's no one to twist the words into a storyline

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that's been pre-approved by NSA and the Department of Homeland Security.

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It's just like you and the person.

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And I just love that.

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I love the idea, the immediacy of it and the unfiltered nature of it.

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So yeah, I mean, I literally can't wait.

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And I bet you, and again, this is not flattery, but sincere, not one person will come away

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from that event in Redding, Pennsylvania at the end of next month thinking, oh, Alex Jones

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is as insane and dangerous as I was told.

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They're going to come away saying, actually, I agree with all of that.

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Why is this guy so bad?

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And then they're going to realize, oh, he's so bad because he's telling me things I kind

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of suspected were true.

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I mean, I was doing an interview yesterday with Bobby Kennedy, really an amazing interview.

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And right in the middle of it, he's like, you know, Atrazine, you know, it can change

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the sex of frogs.

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And he was on a roll, so I didn't want to interrupt him.

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I was like, I think Alex Jones made that point like 15 years ago and was mocked.

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So when Tucker says that people will probably leave the show thinking that Alex isn't so

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bad and maybe the man just hates him because he speaks the truth, that's not because there's

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no mediator.

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It's because Tucker's the mediator and that's the message he wants them to leave the show

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with.

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This is all just such a transparent charade and you almost feel embarrassed for him trying

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to sell this shit.

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Yeah.

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Also, just because it's fun, in 2020, Trump's administration cut regulations around Atrazine

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making monitoring pollution of public waterways much more difficult.

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In 2021, when Biden got into office, his EPA put new rules in place to limit the amount

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of Atrazine that can be used, including prohibiting its use aerially.

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And when rain is likely to cause runoff, when that's forecast within 48 hours, you weren't

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allowed, there was a regulation against that.

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If you're a they're turning the frogs gay voter, then Biden is your guy and Trump shouldn't

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be.

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Now, the right wing Supreme Court that Trump put in place and Alex Love so much ruled overturning

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Chevron v Natural Resources Defense Council, that regulatory agencies like the EPA have

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way less authority to make rules and protect public shit like common waterways or the air

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from people who can make a few extra bucks by polluting.

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The net result of that is going to be much more Atrazine that is spilled into public

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waters.

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Well, the good news is no one's even trying to solve that problem.

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Especially not the people who are yelling about the frogs.

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Alex and Tucker are incoherent in their position here.

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If you want to have your fun with the they're turning the frogs gay stuff, fine, do it.

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You just have to vote for Harris.

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And you also have to support the Supreme Court.

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I mean, yeah, you have to support just so many things.

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If you don't, you're just talking shit.

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Yeah.

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And that's fun.

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But we're all just talking shit kind of someone who's not talking shit anymore, though.

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The CEO of Telegram.

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Oh, right.

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Well, he can't.

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Yeah, you got arrested.

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Yeah, that's pretty funny.

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Um, yeah.

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It's complicated.

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No, it's not.

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It's it is fairly complicated, but you know, it's not we can talk about why you don't think

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it's complicated.

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I get you.

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But what is very uncomplicated is Alex and Tucker's version of the story.

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OK.

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They they have a bullshit version.

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OK.

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When is someone going to call Alex Jones and be like, hey, Alex Jones, you were right about

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the frogs.

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Sorry.

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Well, you're too kind, but you're already very successful, already very successful events

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shelling out quickly.

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People go to Tucker Carlson dot com forward slash events.

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They can find everything right there.

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And it really is an act of resistance to do this and to get out there en masse.

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And it's really overall about the campaign, I think, for free speech.

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Speaking of Elon Musk, we have that.

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I know you talked about this last few days.

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The arrest of the head of telegraph, which is even bigger globally right now than X,

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though X is growing already bigger than Facebook and Instagram.

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I mean, that really is another sign of major tyranny.

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And I think a beta test for trying to arrest Elon Musk.

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We know Australia.

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We know Brazil.

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We know the EU are all talking about wanting to arrest Elon Musk.

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Well, yeah, and it's also really weird because I think of him as a friend.

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I mean, I really like him personally.

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Pavel, who's arrested in France this weekend, and basically, you know, Macron just said

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it out loud.

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I mean, we arrested him because he refused to censor things we didn't like.

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Criticism of the French government, for example.

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So these dudes are not dealing with this case honestly, and it's a shame because they have

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a leg to stand on here without lying.

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They want to present the idea that Pavel Durov, the CEO of Telegram, was arrested because

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he wouldn't censor speech like other social media platforms.

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They allowed anti-vax stuff and bigotry, so Macron had to take them down.

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In the real world, Telegram refused to cooperate with, quote, multiple criminal cases in France

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tied to child sexual abuse, drug trafficking, and online hate crimes, according to reporting

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from the New York Times.

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The issue is that these crimes were facilitated by the platform of Telegram, and it appears

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that Durov has a pattern of being uncooperative with investigations into these crimes.

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This wouldn't be a huge issue if the communications on Telegram were all end-to-end encrypted,

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in which case Telegram wouldn't have access to the stuff that these investigators want.

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People think Telegram is all end-to-end encrypted, but it's not always.

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So Durov and his company have access to many things that could be requested by investigators.

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The question is whether or not this is something that you should be arrested for.

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If you create a social network and profit off its operation and people use it to plan

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and do crimes, are you beholden to help authorities solve those crimes if you're asked?

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At what point do you take on responsibility for enabling or covering up a crime by not

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providing requested information you have access to?

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I think that sane people can argue both sides of that, but I resent someone like Tucker

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or Alex just creating this fake version of the story to make it fit the grievance narratives

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that they profit off of.

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Like I don't know.

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I think it is a little complex.

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No, I understand.

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In terms of should he have been arrested, I can see an argument for yes and I can see

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an argument for no.

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In a conversation wherein things make sense, I totally understand why there would be ambiguity

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here.

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But in real life, if you start a social network, you should probably be arrested.

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Oh.

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If that's the level that you're... I don't know what to tell you.

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If that is your bar, then yes, it is very not complicated.

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I don't think social networks should exist at all.

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I get what you're saying, but how many people are in the position to be affected by this?

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All of them that I can think of probably deserve to go to jail for any number.

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Like Al Capone got a tax evasion thing.

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I get it.

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I think tax evasion's wrong, but if you wanted to send people to jail for tax evasion, I

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would have more of a leg to stand on arguing against that for Al Capone than this asshole.

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Right.

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You know what I'm saying?

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I see this issue as being something that I understand why law enforcement agencies could

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feel like, you're not turning over stuff to us that is essential, and you have access

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to.

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Sure.

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And so, I'm going to arrest you.

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Right.

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I can see that.

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On the other side, I can see how people would be like, this implicates free speech in a

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meaningful way on some sort of principle level.

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Yeah, yeah, yeah.

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I can see that.

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Yeah.

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And I wish that was the conversation Alex is having.

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I get it.

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And it's not.

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No, I read a couple of things, and I read somebody who very earnestly and stupidly,

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I was like, this is worrying for you as well.

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And it's like, hey, come on, shut the fuck up.

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No one is worried because this asshole got arrested.

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I'm not worried because he got arrested that I've ever used telegram, but I get the free

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speech point.

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Sure, sure.

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And I don't think that it's based in insanity.

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Right.

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I think Alex's version is based in insanity.

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I don't think it's based in insanity.

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It's based in the concept of a world that does not exist.

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That may be.

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Yeah.

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So Tucker tells the story of this CEO and how he left Russia.

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And this is a little bit complicated because Tucker has to be pro-Putin, you know?

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Yeah, you can't be both, right?

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He tries.

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Okay.

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So what's the definition of a dictatorship?

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The definition of a dictatorship is a government that arrests people for criticizing that government.

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So, I mean, keep in mind, Durov left Russia in 2014 because the Russian government demanded

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the IP addresses of people on the other side of the Ukrainian, of the false flag, you know,

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overthrow the Ukrainian government that the State Department affected over there, our

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State Department.

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What?

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And the Russians said, we want, you know, their IP addresses.

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And Durov said, no, I'm not doing that.

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I'm not going to give information on my users to the government.

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And so he left his own country.

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Russia.

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So he's the good guy.

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He is Russian.

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And he left because he thought the Putin government was too restrictive on the question of free

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speech.

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And he moved ultimately to the United Arab Emirates in Dubai, where he lives now.

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Which is not a dictatorship.

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But the irony is, ten years later, he gets arrested by a so-called free country, France,

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at the behest of the Biden administration.

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There's no chance they did that without checking with the U.S. State Department and the National

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Security Council, the White House.

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They did that with the approval of the United States government, the Biden administration.

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And they arrest the guy for allowing ordinary people to say what they think.

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So I'm noticing this little pattern with Tucker, which is just shit talk.

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You know, like, there's the, this is a spiritual battle.

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I have no evidence.

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It's just what I want to believe.

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There's no way they'd do this without the government, the U.S. government, Biden.

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So therefore, it must be the case that that is true.

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That's sloppy.

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He just does this all the time.

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See, but if that was true, that's fucking worrying.

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If I was, if I was French and I was like, wait, wait, wait, you're just arresting this

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guy because Biden and the State Department said that you should?

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And you're making up this bullshit to do it?

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That's concerning.

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That would be worrying.

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Yeah.

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I think I would be slightly less worried if they had a legitimate reason to arrest him

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because of the non-cooperation with these investigations.

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Yep.

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And they reached out a little.

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Hey, U.S., can we do this?

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Are you guys going to fuck with us?

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I don't think that's as worrying, although it's a little bit weird.

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But all of it is Tucker just guessing things.

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Well, but even then, his point should be like, well, I support Russia having arrested him

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before he was born, you know, or before Telegram was born.

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Well, see, that's why it's complicated.

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No.

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Because Putin's a good guy, but then he's also the antagonist of the story that leads

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to Pavel leaving Russia.

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OK.

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Here's what happens a lot of times.

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People say things are complicated because if they were not complicated, then they would

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have to just do the thing, right?

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So they complicate things that are not complicated.

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That way, they can say things are complicated instead of just doing the thing.

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Right.

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Yeah.

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No, I think that Tucker's, like, attempt to live in this space in the middle of ideas

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is complicated.

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It's complicated.

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So he's using that term in this case kind of sarcastically.

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Right.

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Right, right, right.

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It's very complicated.

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Yeah.

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Also, that's not the definition of a dictatorship.

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I find it fascinating.

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Also, Durov wasn't arrested for letting people post what they think.

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Your boomer grandpa in France isn't going to get arrested for posting a sick anti-immigrant

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meme.

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His company theoretically had information that would aid in the investigation into things

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like selling people, and they refused to cooperate with that investigation.

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The only thing that I think that explains Tucker's actions and the way that he's misrepresenting

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things is malice.

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Yeah.

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I really think... I watch him, and in addition to that, like, he's dumb, but he's not that

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dumb.

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Right.

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He's crafty, but this isn't all crafty.

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Right.

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He doesn't believe some of this shit.

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Right, right, right.

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I also think he might be the angriest person in media.

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I think that's possible, yeah.

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When he laughs, it's angry.

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It's cruel.

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Yes.

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It looks like the way somebody that you've read about tortures dogs.

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He's a cruel monster.

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Almost everything in him, even expressions of joy, are dripping in resentment and anger.

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Yeah, yeah, yeah.

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I think it's like he feels bad about his own career, and why wouldn't you?

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Yeah.

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He tried to do the bow tie thing and got roundly mocked.

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He was out, just kept on the outside in those days, and he's never really been accepted

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as-

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Yeah, I mean-

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Normal.

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I think what is fascinating about Tucker, and I think part of what explains it, is that

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he is somehow incredibly wealthy, incredibly famous, and incredibly respected, or whatever

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it is, but he's never succeeded at anything.

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He's never himself done a thing that succeeded.

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Everything that he's done fails.

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That's kind of not true, I think.

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Right, everything that he has to do must burn the old thing.

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When he got some sort of a mainstream foothold, it was by almost making a joke and burning

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his crossfire, because Jon Stewart made fun of him so badly with the bow tie that he had

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to essentially burn that down in order to have some sort of mainstream credibility.

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And then you've got his entire career being this neocon kind of persona.

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There's a lot of the Iraq war defense and stuff like that.

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In order to create this new persona that he has, he has to burn down the past thing that

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he created.

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So there has been some success, but it's at the expense of himself.

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Yeah, I mean, it's kind of a sense of like, or maybe fail isn't quite the right word that

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I'm looking for.

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Maybe it's that nothing is his.

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Nothing feels organic.

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Nothing is, everything is something that he took from somewhere else.

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And because, oh, the bow tie didn't work, well, I'll do that.

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Oh, that didn't work or it worked for a while.

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Well, now I'll do this.

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And it's like, he's not a person.

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Right.

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I'm William F. Buckley.

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Oh wait, no, I'm not.

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What does he celebrate about himself?

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You know, like, oh, I made this.

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He interviewed cat turd.

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Right?

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He's the guy, he's the guy who's supposed to be defending the people who make things.

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But he's never made anything.

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He doesn't make things.

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He just talks shit.

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Yeah.

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And he's rich.

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Yeah.

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There's some truth to that.

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But he interviewed cat turd.

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Cat turd makes things, cat turd is a more valuable member of society than Tucker Carlson is.

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It's arguable.

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Yeah.

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And just flashing back to earlier, he was like, you know, I like that interview.

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It's just you and that person.

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There's no moderator.

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And I'm just thinking about him and Putin.

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It's just you and Putin.

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Just you and Putin.

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And the entire government hanging over you.

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Yeah.

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A little moderation.

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Just in that room, no moderation.

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Just a little moderation.

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So look, Tucker has a standard for whether or not you're in a dictatorship.

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Right.

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And he expresses it here.

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Okay.

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We really, I mean, this is a cliche, but it is because it's true.

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We are really the only free country left or the only country on the planet that guarantees

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free speech.

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And if we allow them to lecture us like Tim Walz at Creep did the other day, well, you

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know, free speech is not absolute.

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Well, actually, it is Tim Walz.

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And the definition of free speech is being able to call you a creep without being arrested.

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And when you take that away from me, this is a dictatorship and I want my kids to live

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in a dictatorship.

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So I'm going to do whatever I can to oppose you.

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Does he think that his right to call Tim Walz a creep is at jeopardy?

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Does he think that this is a risk that we can't call Tim Walz a creep?

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I'm concerned.

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This is stupid.

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I spend a lot of my time calling a large number of people creeps and various other things.

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You can call people creeps if you want.

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That's fine, man.

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UK.

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Also, I think that like free speech is not absolute.

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I think even free speech absolutists would probably argue that it's not.

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Eventually, yeah.

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Because you can't like use speech.

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There are criminal ways to use speech.

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Extortion is just speech.

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Yeah.

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I mean, there's no there's no way that you're going to get to somebody who's like a free

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speech absolutist because there are three words.

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Right.

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And that's your issue.

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Sooner or later, you're going to be like, well, now we have to redefine free.

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Well, now we have to redefine speech.

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Well, now we have to redefine all of that.

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And there's just no point.

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Right.

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This is just stupid.

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Yeah.

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It's a waste of everyone's time.

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It's stupid the point that he's making.

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And it's stupid to pretend like, oh, you can't call Tim Walz a creep.

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Go for it, dude.

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Yeah.

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I mean, it's like it is so weird that they're all so obsessed with not being able to say

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things and it's like the only things you're not allowed to say are the horrifying shit

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that is deep within your heart that you're not dealing with.

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It does feel a little high school angsty.

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Yeah.

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And that's why this song that's why this next clip really like really felt at home.

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And I think we we misunderstand why people become partisan Democrats.

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We know why they become conservatives.

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I want to think for myself.

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I believe in the autonomy of the individual up against the group.

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And that's why I do what I'm told is dignity created by God can't be taken away in alliable

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rights.

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I mean, those are the core beliefs of people on our side.

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The core beliefs of the people on the other side aren't really beliefs.

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They're impulses that derive from fear.

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And the core fear is I'm alone and powerless in this world.

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I need protection from a group I'm going to join.

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There is safety in numbers.

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That's the reigning impulse on the Democratic side.

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Let's all get together.

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And together we are stronger than we are alone.

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They fear being alone.

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These are people who sleep with a TV on.

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You know, these are people who are just terrified.

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They're people who are on SSR eyes and benzodiazepines.

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I mean, they are.

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This is all shown.

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I mean, they're heavily medicated and neurotic because they're afraid they don't believe

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in God.

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So they're terrified of death.

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They have no skills.

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So they're terrified of change.

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I mean, they've created an entire fake economy to elevate and compensate people who can't

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do anything useful.

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We live in a world where people who come from your house don't get paid anything relative

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to somebody who has no skills at all, who's working in the DEI department of a community

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college.

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Right.

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So the whole enterprise is designed to take fearful people who believe themselves to be

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powerless, who have no useful skills and make them feel safe and appreciated.

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That's the whole everyone gets a trophy thing that we used to make fun of.

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But it's actually very deep.

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And if I can just recommend to your listeners, the probably the only four listing who haven't

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already read it, but Ted Kaczynski's original manifesto.

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Oh, my God.

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I'm not endorsing the violence, but he did nail for God's sakes.

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We're doing it.

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He nailed what was going to happen with technology, but he also, more than anything, described

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the leftist worldview, this helpless, alone, afraid, anxiety ridden, terrified child in

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an adult body that is the average leftist.

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That's the mindset that drives their behavior.

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And no one described it as well as Ted Kaczynski.

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OK, man.

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OK, cool.

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Cool.

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We got Tucker Carlson being interviewed on Alex Jones, extolling the virtues of Ted Kaczynski's

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manifesto.

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Am I nine again?

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What is happening?

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This is great.

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What is fucking happening?

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I believe demons walk among us.

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And also, Ted Kaczynski really nailed my enemies.

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All right.

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Fine.

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Whoo.

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I mean, that's such a great conversation ender, you know, like, well, you know, you haven't

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read all of it.

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No, no.

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We're done.

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Get out of here.

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Hey, I'm going to do this live show where I'm talking to Kid Rock about Ted Kaczynski's

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manifesto.

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Ted Kaczynski.

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Yeah.

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Oh, boy.

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This sucks.

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Damn.

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Jesus Christ.

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It's almost like a record scratch kind of moment.

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I would be, it's beyond, it's so unfortunate because it's like, if I was writing that,

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I would be furious that I couldn't use it.

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It would be a little hacky.

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Yeah.

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It'd be like, ah, this is trash.

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Oh, I'm really going to use a Unabomber reference.

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That's really what you're doing in 2024, Jordan.

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Good job.

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Good job.

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Yeah.

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Good job, Tucker.

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And here we are.

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So Alex also doesn't want to dwell on this too much because it's the fucking Unabomber.

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And so he asks like, hey, man, what would have happened if Trump had gotten killed?

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And so they shift topics.

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You follow the trajectory and you are actually good at predictions.

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You are smart.

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Uh, so don't, so don't, don't, don't, you know, play yourself down here.

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People really want to hear what you have to say.

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What would have happened?

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God forbid if they'd have blown his head off in Butler and then tie it into your statements

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that we can elaborate on the political realignment that we're clearly seeing globally right now.

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Gosh, I mean, well, that would have been the national crime.

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I mean, keep in mind that took place at a moment where they were still planning on running

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Biden and the numbers were bad.

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And so killing Trump was the national crisis I referred to that they will always resort

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to out of desperation if they think they're going to lose power and that would have been

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a crisis.

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I mean, first of all, it would have resulted in the death of an innocent of a man, okay,

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which is always a tragedy.

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No matter what happened.

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Sorry, but it did.

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But it, the trauma that the country's watching a man get shot.

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I mean, the great thing about the Zapruder film is you really have to watch carefully

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to see the gore in it, to watch the top of the president's head come off.

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But Trump was being shot in, you know, HD close up.

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If he'd been shot in the face, that would have been the single ugliest, goriest, most

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horrifying thing, you know, 300 million people had ever seen.

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And that's just bad.

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That's, that's just bad right there.

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It's, it's pornography on a, on a moral level.

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Okay.

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It'd be a snuff film.

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It would be a snuff film.

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And like watching that stuff is bad for you, actually it damages you, in my opinion, I

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know that.

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Um, so that, but then the, you know, this sort of subsequent effect, the ripples out

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from that, the chaos, the people realizing, wait a second, they just murdered the only

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hope of the disenfranchised half of the country.

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I mean, in the 2020 election, Biden voters owned 70% of the wealth in the United States,

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Trump voters, 30%.

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So really this is an economic divide.

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Tucker's using a misleading statistic there at the end.

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He's taking this from a Brookings Institute study from 2020 that found the counties that

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ended up voting for Biden, quote, equal 70% of America's economy.

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This is not the same thing as saying that Biden voters control 70% of the wealth in

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the country.

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And Tucker knows damn well what the difference is.

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He's been in this media game long enough, knowing he's misusing a fucking headline in

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a statistic.

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I say less of this worrying about assassinations being aired on TV and more quoting the Unabomber.

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Yeah.

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Come on, man.

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I mean, yeah, it is, it is weird to think about like a full quarter of American presidents

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have been attempted assassinated at least, you know, that's a, that's a high rate.

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Maybe, maybe we should think about what they do.

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Yeah.

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I think there's something about the job that maybe makes you a more likely, but I'm just

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throwing that out there.

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I think maybe you get a lot of attention, the focus of a lot of people's strong political

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feelings.

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Like most jobs, I would almost argue like all jobs have a way lower than 25% attempted

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assassin rate.

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But what percentage of jobs are called the leader of the free world?

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You get a lot of attention, a lot of focus put on you.

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You know what?

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You're not wrong.

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A lot of blame for a lot of things.

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You're not wrong.

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You're not wrong.

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Now I'm going to come to Tucker Carlson's aid here and say, I agree showing a murder

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on TV is bad.

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Yeah, that would have been rough.

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That would have had a negative effect on a public psyche and I agree with that.

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Yeah.

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I don't think many people ever got over the challenger disaster.

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So people talk about that being a deeply, I'm talking about it and I was not alive.

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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So yeah, I do agree that someone being shot on TV is bad, but technically we did kind

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of see that even though the, you know, the guy who got shot and died wasn't close up

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or anything, but it just kind of ignores that.

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Who knows?

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Yeah.

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I mean, this idea that he has where it's like half of the country would have seen their

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only hope be killed.

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Yeah.

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That's no good.

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No.

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Yeah.

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It's really, really sad.

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You would have, you know, a hundred and whatever million people who have no, you know, nothing.

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They have nothing.

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They have no political power.

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They have no economic power.

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The only thing they have is Trump.

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And now Trump's been murdered.

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I mean, I don't know, you know, I don't know what would have happened then.

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But it would have been, it would have been a turning point in the, an abrupt turning

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point in the life of the country.

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You would have unleashed chaos.

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Who would do something like, by the way, who would unleash chaos on the country?

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Like how evil do you have to be to even consider doing something like this?

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I was about to say that that shows exerts, you'd almost have to be crazy to start a war

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with Russia.

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It just shows how reckless they are.

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But reckless and callous and evil.

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So it's just really like, I have a lot of less than complimentary views, let's say of

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Trump fans.

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Sure.

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And I think it's insulting to say like, without him, they don't have anything.

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Yeah.

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I think he has a more negative view of Trump's base than I do.

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Yeah, no, absolutely.

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It's really, really fucking sad.

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Well, they, they have to, they have to hate them because that's the only way you can get

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away with lying to people like that, right?

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It's the only way we can abusively sell them a hearing aid that you don't turn on.

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I mean, right?

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Don't you have to like just have a general distaste for humanity if you're like willing

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to lie the way that Tucker does?

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I suspect.

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Like, there's no way, there's no expression of love that is like what Tucker does.

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No.

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There is no way to express a generalized love for your fellow man through any of the things

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that Tucker has ever done.

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No.

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No.

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And that's why his smile is angry.

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I mean, yeah, it must be like there is, but maybe he's the most alone human being that's

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ever been created.

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I mean, how could you not be?

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Him and RFK are the only two people who have ever been so alone.

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I mean, it's a choice to be a young up and comer and wear a bow tie.

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I think you're courting your own loneliness and it speaks to a deep hole, a bow tie shaped

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hole in your soul.

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I genuinely, like the more I encounter it, the more I truly believe that to grow up rich

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is child abuse.

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Like it is a genuinely awful thing to do to a child and then to have them grow up thinking

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that that's a good thing is even worse.

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And that leads to where we are.

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I agree with some of the baseline thoughts that you're coming at this from, but I think

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the problem is growing up in poverty could also be described as child abuse.

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So you got to find that medium.

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Where is it ethically right to have a child?

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I think the point that we're making is capitalism is not going to be the good answer in this

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final tally.

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Probably not.

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Tucker likes it though.

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So he seems to have really reached the conclusion that they, the globalists or whoever, Biden,

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all of them, tried to kill Trump.

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And that's fine for Alex.

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That's silly for, it's not good for Tucker.

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Yeah.

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They allowed him to be shot.

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That's just a fact.

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The Biden administration in charge of his bodyguards allowed him to be shot.

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You say, well, they didn't know that that was what is going to happen.

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They weren't coordinating with the shooter.

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Okay.

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I'm willing to believe that it doesn't change the fact that they allowed it.

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And in other words, if I, if I let my toddler play by my swimming pool and go to Walmart

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for an hour and he drowns, I didn't drown him, but I allowed him to be drowned.

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It's the same crime.

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Exactly.

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So that's what they did.

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This sounds to me like a guy who loves individualism and personal responsibility.

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Yeah.

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Biden is abstractly to blame for some dude shooting at Trump because he didn't stop it.

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Do you think that maybe there's a salient difference between the secret service and

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Trump and you and your baby with the pool?

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If Tucker doesn't understand the difference here, what he's suggesting about moral culpability

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is staggering.

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Yeah.

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This is nuts.

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I mean, what's even crazier about it to me is like the more you study these types of

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events that kind of thing, honestly, if there are a hundred people out there with the intent

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to assassinate the president and do not care if they live or die, that president is going

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to die.

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It doesn't matter what this, the secret service can only do so much.

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They can only do so much.

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It's more of a deterrent for people who don't want to then face the consequences of stuff.

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Right.

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For people, if you just walk people towards, I mean, it's just, and we've talked about

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this too.

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A lot of the times you don't hear about someone maybe getting arrested with a gun at some

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place they shouldn't be at where the president or former president was because that's not

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the kind of stuff that's great for, for the news.

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Yep.

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You know, that's, they keep a fair amount of threats to the president's life to keep

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it close.

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Yeah.

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And so you hear about things like this and maybe they stop a bunch of them before there's

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one to the level of Butler.

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Right, right.

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But I mean, the thing about the Butler one is that it's from a distance, you know, like

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if you're going to measure that, Reagan was right up close.

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Andrew Jackson had two guns jam on him, two guns jam face to face.

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And that's why you never try and assassinate the president in the south or on a hot day.

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Because of the humidity.

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Because of the humidity.

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Right.

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That makes sense.

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Yeah.

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I just think, I think that there's something incredibly dumb about the way that Tucker

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is approaching things.

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Yeah.

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And if you extrapolate his logic out from the blame that he's assigning, I don't, I

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don't understand how you could justify anything like.

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Or not.

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You know, like what isn't okay?

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Well, I mean, none of it's your fault.

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Can you make guns?

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Are you allowed to manufacture guns?

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Like you know that someone irresponsibly handling that gun could kill somebody.

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Sure.

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You've got to watch over everybody who has one of those guns if you're a gun manufacturer,

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right?

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To not do that is like leaving a kid by a pool.

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That's I remember getting high and watching commercials where if you get high and you

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leave a kid by the pool, you're in trouble.

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Yeah.

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It's like an egg.

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Yeah.

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So look, I just think this is dumb.

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I think that Tucker should, I feel like he wants to be taken more seriously than this

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and his actions don't deserve it.

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Yeah.

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I don't know though.

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Cause he's not even allowed in the, or not allowed, but he's not in the real world anymore,

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right?

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No, but I think that he believes and I hope erroneously that he will be allowed back if

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he burns this past in order to create whatever the next future is.

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It'd be hard to try to pull that Glenn Beck move or something by disowning all of this.

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But I hope that that's not the case.

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I hope he can't do that.

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I mean, yeah.

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I think the most unfortunate part is that the roadmap exists and it is almost always

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successful.

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Right.

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Yeah.

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Um, so bad luck.

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Bad luck, Tucker.

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Bad luck.

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Yeah.

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So we have one last clip and I think that this is really, you know, Tucker, he's a cynical

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fuck.

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Yeah.

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It's like so many things in politics.

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Like everyone in politics is lying on some level.

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They're all creepy.

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I got it.

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They're all falling short of expectations.

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None of them like is much of an idealist.

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They're all kind of cynical, but the ones who do what you want them to do, like take

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the win.

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You know what I mean?

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Like just take the win.

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It's good.

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I hear all these people like, Oh, Elon is not a, you know, as committed to free speech

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as I am.

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Well, that's true.

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It's not as committed to free speech as I am, but I don't own anything.

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I'm just a yapper on, on the tube.

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He's done more for speed, free speech than anybody in my lifetime, so let's just take

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the win.

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You know what I mean?

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Don't look at give towards to the mouth, enclose him and gracious with the time Tucker Carlson.

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Yeah.

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I mean like this is not fine when there's demons.

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You know what I mean?

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You can't, you can't be like, uh, Hey, I have a cynical analysis of good enough whenever

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like everything is based on, on truth and everything is supposed to be so based on this,

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the importance of virtue and you can't have that like don't look a gift horse in the mouth

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kind of mentality.

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Right, right.

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But I mean more, more to the point, if the fight is between good and evil, you can't

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take the w because there isn't one.

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The fight is still going on.

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You didn't win.

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Right.

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You, that's just another part of the fight.

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And if, if you feel like you won and the fight's still going on, there's a good chance that

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you actually lost because if you'd won, the fight would not be going on anymore.

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You understand?

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Cause the evil one is the one that wants to keep fighting forever because that's what

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they do.

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I guess.

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I have no idea.

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Is Elon Musk really doing much for free speech?

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Is that, that's a question that I think is worth analyzing for Tucker.

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I think that he is definitely allowed a lot of distasteful speech to become more prevalent.

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Is that a function of increased free speech?

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I don't know if that's true on actual free speech issues that are really important.

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Elon Musk doesn't seem like he's really that much better and maybe even be worse than previous

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incarnations of Twitter.

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He is more, if your sort of barometer for free speech is how well does my bigot nonsense

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profit?

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Sure.

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Like how easily can I disseminate this shit?

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Yeah.

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Then he's great for your bottom line.

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Right.

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But if it's actually about free speech, then you need to recognize that you're using free

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speech as that proxy for your marketability.

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Didn't he ban cisgender?

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No.

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Well.

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Okay.

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Okay nevermind.

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My bad.

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My bad.

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It's complicated.

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It's complicated man.

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But that's the thing.

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That's the thing.

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Like that's what you really come down to is like, no, you don't believe that operation

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warp speed killed all these fucking people.

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That's your brand.

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Right.

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You don't actually believe that Elon Musk is fighting for free speech.

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That's your brand.

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You don't believe any of this.

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You don't believe you're fighting the fucking devil.

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That's your brand.

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Yeah.

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And I don't know.

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It's exhausting.

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And it's embarrassing because Tucker wants to be more than this.

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He can tell.

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Yeah.

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Alex maybe is right at home with this.

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Yeah.

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Profiting off living in the sewer basically is kind of Alex's milieu.

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Yeah.

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You know, like the more I think about this, the more I think Tucker's description of Democrats

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is oftentimes him telling on himself that kind of idea of like, these people just want

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safety and they just want to be part of a group is so much like, yes, that's why you

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do all of this shit is because you want this group of people to love you.

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Right.

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That's you, man.

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Right.

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And I think that there's a certain amount of that desire to belong and shit like that.

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That is human.

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We all do that.

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No, everybody.

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Right.

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There's no political side.

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What's crazy is because he thinks that that's, yeah, right.

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Do you know what I mean?

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Yes.

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Yeah.

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And it's Tucker's failing to grasp that that desire to have the group is good.

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Well, but all of that does not have to be based in fear.

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Right.

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It can be based in love.

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It's awesome.

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It can be based in concern and desire to see other people and everyone live as happily

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as possible.

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That's not based in fear all the time, but it has to be if you read the fucking Unabomber

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and you're like, this is heavy.

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This is deep stuff about my enemies.

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Yeah.

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To read the Unabomber manifesto as Tucker Carlson, that would fuck with your head.

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There's no way to lionize the Unabomber and be Tucker Carlson without losing your mind.

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Oh, he's trying.

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Eh, that's a good point.

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It's not working well.

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It's not going great.

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Apparently tickets aren't selling that great.

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So I guess this is a plug for Alex's appearance on Tucker's live show in Pennsylvania.

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Oh, shit.

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He's certainly not selling those tickets.

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I don't think our audience is rushing to the gate.

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Don't go as a bit.

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Do not go.

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Don't be funny.

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No, it won't be funny and you'll hate yourself.

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Anyway, we might go a bit.

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That's because it would be a bit.

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We're not.

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Oh, man.

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I'm putting the X down.

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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Oh, well.

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We'll be back, though, for another episode.

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But until then, we have a website.

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Indeed, we do.

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Yep.

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We'll be back.

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But until then, I'm Neo.

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I'm Leo.

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I'm DZX Clark.

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I am the mysterious professor.

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Woo!

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Yeah!

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Woo!

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Yeah!

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Woo!

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And now here comes the sex robot.

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Andy in Kansas.

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You're on the air.

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Thanks for holding.

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Hello, Alex.

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I'm a first time caller.

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I'm a huge fan.

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I love your work.