Transcript/938: June 25-26, 2024

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N-N-N-N-N-N-N-Knowledge Fight

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Damn and Jordan, I'm sweating

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Knowledgefight.com, it's time to pray

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I have great respect for Knowledgefight

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Knowledgefight

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I'm sick of them posing as if they're the good guys

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Saying we are the bad guys

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Knowledgefight

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Damn and Jordan, Knowledgefight

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Riddler, Riddler, Riddler

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I need, I need money

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Riddler, Riddler, Riddler

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Andy in Kansas, Andy in Kansas

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Stop it, Andy in Kansas, Andy in Kansas

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Andy, Andy, it's time to pray

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Andy in Kansas, you're on the air, thanks for holding

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Hello Alex, I'm a first time caller, I'm a huge fan

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I love your work

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Knowledgefight

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N-N-N-N-N-Knowledgefight.com

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I love you

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Hey everybody, welcome back to Knowledgefight, I'm Dan

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I'm Jordan

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We're a couple dudes, I can sit around worship at the altar of Selene and talk a little bit about Alex Jones

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Oh, indeed we are, Dan

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Jordan

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Dan

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Jordan

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I have a quick question for you

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What's up?

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What's your bright spot today, buddy?

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My bright spot today, I feel at risk of sounding like a broken record a tiny bit

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Because I did mention this on a previous episode

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But I have been playing a bit of Diablo

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Oh, okay

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But that is not my bright spot

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This is merely the background or the context for my bright spot

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Sure

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I have an interest in trophies in games

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Alright, alright

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I very much enjoy the feeling of like when I'm playing something, sometimes I like to complete things

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Sure

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But there is a conflict that I have

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And that is that one of the trophies in Diablo is you have to kill five other players

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Yes

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And I do not like that

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I don't like player versus player stuff

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I don't like playing with people online

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And it is fucking annoying and it's a sort of a hurdle that I can never really cross with a lot of these games

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Yes

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Is when they have trophies that require you to

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Interact with other human beings through a medium that you hate

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Yes

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I was gonna say kill other people

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Right

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Um

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But yeah, what you're saying is probably more accurate

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Sure

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Um, but my bright spot is that you took the time out of your day to create characters for me to kill in Diablo

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In order to get that trophy

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So thank you very much

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I had to

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I appreciate, you know

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You know, that's a good friend right there

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I mean, hey, let's not forget I had to spend, I don't know how much money to get that internet thing to work

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What?

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I think it's like ten bucks or something

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Oh no

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To get the, yeah, yeah, yeah

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I didn't even realize

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I'm just fucking with you

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Oh, shit

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No, no, yeah, of course, it was great

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It was very nice of you

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It was fantastic

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And now I have that trophy

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So who, who

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What was my, oh, the last one you killed

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Oh, it was something about cat turd

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Not cat turd

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Yeah

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Was the name of the, I had a little fun

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Made me suspect that maybe it was cat turd

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If only

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Um, but yeah, that was very nice

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So what's your bright spot?

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Um, my bright spot is, uh, also a gift that I gave you

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Um, but today it's, uh, these, there's a spot opened up near my place

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My wife exercises early now because it's the summer

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And this is a donut shop that sells out of the donuts

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It's one of those places that's good at stuff

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To the point where people are like, you can't even have it anymore

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They, they make, they're not big enough that they can make an unlimited supply

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Right, right, right

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But they're so good that people will buy them out

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You can't, you can't, yeah

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Yeah

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It's so, it's such a great, like in the world that we inhabit

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Where it feels like all of that stuff is either like, it bursts into, into flame and then disappears

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Or bursts into flame and then turns into everything terrible

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But there's this one brief shining moment where it's too good

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And it's not good enough to go too far

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Nice

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You know, and it's just perfect

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Well, I like that, um, we're talking about this

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Yes

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Because here, there's an interesting dynamic of you bringing this up

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Have I mentioned that they're donuts yet?

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You think so, I think you did

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I feel like you did

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I don't know, we talked about it before the show

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No, I can't tell, yeah

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It's entirely possible that I did not even mention it

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You might have said it's a, it's a thing that sells out of stuff

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It's one of those places, yes

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I might have assumed that you said donut because this, this is the primary tension

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Is you're giving a shout out to this and you're making your right spot

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But if you name the place

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It's all God

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Right, you can't say

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It's all over

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Yeah

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It's all over

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You can't say what this place is because that's gonna make them run out of donuts that much quicker

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Then you're not gonna be able to get them

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I mean, the craziest part, it's down the street from a Stan's Donuts

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Mm-hmm

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You know what I'm saying?

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Like, this is the type of thing that happened, like it's a, it's a pre and post kind of shit, you know?

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Like, there was a time when Stan's Donuts was that small place, you know, doing the thing

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Mm-hmm

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Now here we are

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Now here they are

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Stan's going down

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You, none of you could know

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None of you could know about any of this

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So the plug is for Stan's Donuts

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Stan's Donuts

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Go there, you losers

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So, Jordan, today we have an episode to go over

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We're gonna be talking about June 25th and 26th

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That is Tuesday and Wednesday of this week

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Obviously, at this point in my mind, as we're sitting here recording on Thursday

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The debate between Trump and Biden is coming up this evening

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Yes

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And there's very little else that is sort of front of mind

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Yeah

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But we haven't seen that yet

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So that will have to wait until next week

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Yeah

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But for now, we have, the news has happened with Alex's bankruptcy

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There have been developments on that front

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So we can see where his mind is at and then talk about other really upsetting stuff

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Sure

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So that's what we'll do

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Let's do it

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But first, let's say hello to some new wonks

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Ooh, that's a great idea

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So first, the high priestess of St. Hillary's Church, Larry Nichols' voice

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Oh, we itches

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Thank you so much, you're now a policy wonk

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I'm a policy wonk

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Thank you very much

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Thank you

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Next, Jonathan Morgan, flight attendant, not eccentric millionaire

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Thank you so much, you're now a policy wonk

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I'm a policy wonk

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Thank you very much

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Thank you

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Next, Gritty Sounds Like Chewbacca with a five-pack-a-day roar

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Thank you so much, you're now a policy wonk

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I'm a policy wonk

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Thank you very much

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Thank you

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And congratulations, Sean the Skipper of sodomite shit being a master of history

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Thank you so much, you're now a policy wonk

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I'm a policy wonk

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Thank you very much

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And we've got a technocrat in the mix

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So thank you so much to Time to Dry the Game Crinkle

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Because Kyle and Leroy need a challenge

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Thank you so much, you're now a technocrat

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I'm a policy wonk

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Four stars, go home to your mother and tell her you're brilliant

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Someone, someone sodomite sent me a bucket of poop

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Daddy Shark, bomp, bomp, bomp, bomp, bomp

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Jar Jar Binks has a Caribbean black accent

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He's a loser, little, little titty baby

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I don't want to hate black people

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I renounce Jesus Christ

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Thank you so much

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Yes, thank you very much

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So we start here on the 25th

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And Alex is a bit exhausted by his own bankruptcy

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Which I can understand

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Everyone is, this has gone on a while

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This twisting tale

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I know it's exhausting, it's exhausting for me

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This rollercoaster battle as the establishment tries to shut down Infowars

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Now they've had the Democrat party lawyers on CNN last week saying

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We just want him off air, we don't want money

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Well the courts are designed, even if you rig a case

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You just get money in a civil issue

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So I told you they've done multiple filings the last three weeks

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They tried to have the CRO block the building without a court order

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The judge blocked that

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I mean it's been a rollercoaster

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And then my phones blow up yesterday after I'm off air

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Saying oh what's this headline

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AP Reuters, Bloomberg, CNN

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Alex Jones, Infowars bankruptcy trustee discloses plan to shut down media platform

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There's a bunch of other similar headlines

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Bankruptcy court trustee and Alex Jones liquidation case previews wind down of media company

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That's a wind down over two to four months

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Instead of the judge's order signed last Friday, Gware Gamble

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The same one that ran the show trial against me here in Texas

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To have sheriffs come yesterday

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She said immediately and locked the doors

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That's in the order

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Some people say okay well what's happening

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Well that's what I told you a few weeks ago

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They will immediately come and try to shut things down

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So we've got this news that the trustee has announced this plan for a wind down

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And it's you know obviously everything is very frustrating

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And this keeps going on

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But you know if you take a step back

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The best case scenario for Alex really is this Infowars is going to be shut down gradually

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At this point the two options that are really in front of him are like

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You're shut down now or you're shut down in this process

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Right

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And so you know there's a little bit of I guess some sort of like relief that must come

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from that

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I'm not sure it's enough and I'm not sure it feels any better but

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I okay so here's what I imagine all right now imagine this all right I'm robbing a bank

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And then the cops give me a call and they're like hey in in a good five years we're going

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to come get you from that vault and I'm like okay so I just hang out and I do a show in

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the vault

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And just keep all that money and then whenever there's like 30 minutes before they're gonna

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come catch me

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I just start handing all that money to my dad and then we leave

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Well I mean it's an interesting scenario you paint

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Yeah

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And I wonder how those feelings you have about this this sort of allegory will match with

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what Alex's behaviors are

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It's interesting

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Especially even on this episode

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Very very similar they seem to be

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Yeah so Alex talks about a wall street journal article that he believes he's read

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He believes

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That describes the plan to shut him down now this article I should tell you does not exist

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Oh

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The wall street journal six years ago ran a big detailed subscription article that I

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read in detail here on air because it was about me it was about you

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And about us

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They said in a big prospectus article when news core was splitting up its media entertainment

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division and selling it to Disney but was keeping its news division and they explained

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in the big article for investors that the internet will soon be like Netflix you'll

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have thousands of choices but it'll be owned by a handful of companies and we're going

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to successfully censor and demonetize and destroy WikiLeaks and Julian Assange and when

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the left wing doesn't stand up we'll set the precedent to take all the liberals off the

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air

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Sure

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And off the internet and then when we demonize and remove Alex Jones the conservatives won't

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stand up for him because they'll be scared of being shut down and then once they don't

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stand up for him they won't stand up for the next person and we'll get all of them and

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and I was horrified by it because it was a very serious article I've covered it a lot

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I forget the exact headline on it but there was a gizmodo headline and a couple others

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that were hold on to your tinfoil hat Alex Jones YouTube is about to take you off the

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air and then it linked to the wall street journal article and we had a paid subscription

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and I printed off the 30-something page article where it said meeting it

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30-something pages?! Big tech working with the EU has developed a plan to stop disinformation

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and shut down blah blah blah but then it went in to the fact that this would make dinosaur

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media legacy media more successful and was telling investors don't worry about all the

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competition don't worry about lagging readers at the wall street journal

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Would it surprise you to learn that none of this is in the wall street journal article

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that he's talking about? I mean the 30 pages thing was a tip off

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It was not 30 pages it was like maybe 2 yeah and it wasn't a prospectus being sent out

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from the new world order to minions and investors all this shitty saying is made up the article

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is about YouTube adding context to videos that are considered news related for instance

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they were going to put tags on videos produced by state funded media outlets so viewers would

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have the proper context to view them and sure Alex is briefly mentioned in that article

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because he did a live stream about how that train crash that happened back in 2018 was

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an attempted assassination of Republican Congress members

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Right right right right YouTube commented that quote its algorithm

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hadn't recognized the search quickly enough as a news related query which is why it was

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allowed to be in the top results if someone was searching for that news story

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Right This is the only place where Alex actually

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even intersects with this fairly short story that has nothing to do with oh our plan is

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to demonize Assange and Alex so we can get him from both sides

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I do I do believe though that that is that makes sense that's part of the like if there

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is a small article mentioning Alex in the past over time it will become an article focused

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entirely about Alex that was about 30 pages long

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yeah exactly yeah and it reveals everything

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it just gets big it's it grows it's like a little baby if you write a story about Alex

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just watch the story grow now you want to hear something fun a fun fact yes I got a

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Wall Street Journal account because of this not this time but back when I first heard

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because this is like Alex has brought this article up before right right right I was

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like if there's a 30 page in depth thing I've got to read this dude if it's behind a subscription

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thing yeah and so yeah I did I did end up getting an account just to look into this

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disappointment it's bullshit and he's peddling it again

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now you're just a fan of the editorial board nope so Alex is he's in checkmate as he describes

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to the audience here because of the the the bankruptcy stuff sure basically all he can

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really do at this point is extend the inevitable which is info wars is going to go down right

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and he's just kind of ping ponging he sort of that's how he describes it going back and

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forth with courts wasting everyone's time yeah that is that sounds right yes yeah so

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again if I'm in checkmate in one move but I can do another move and be in checkmate

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in three moves I'm going to move away even though I'm gonna be cornered and they're gonna

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get me I'm still staying on air and fighting to the last minute going down swinging and

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that's why it's we're about to be shut down and you read it all over the news and we're

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not and we're about to be shut down and then we're not people say what is this this is

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what it looks like to fight this is what it looks like to struggle this is what it looks

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like to put everything you've got into something I mean I sold almost everything I had before

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I went into bankruptcy for the legal fight to keep this place going because I understand

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we've saved tens of millions of lives myself the guests the listeners spreading the word

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about the poison shots and about all the medical tyranny and the open border and the drag queen

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pedophile time and world war three and every day we stay on air the show gets bigger the

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broadcast gets more influential and we affect more people and that's admitted that's admitted

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this is a really interesting prism to look at Alex's work through like he believes he's

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saved 10 million lives sure by this bullshit that he's right you know just rambles about

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on it yeah yeah that's pretty I mean if you believe that about yourself then I can understand

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why you would be able to rationalize sure wasting everyone's time in the court like

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this sure sure I mean the irony of course is that essentially he took a job working

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for a disease for a couple of years still still now to this day yeah he works for a

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disease he's one of the last remaining employees yes actually that's not true no quite a big

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department working for the yeah their their HR department is uh yeah I know a guy who

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has his experience in HR someone's dad yeah so look here's the thing yeah even though

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Alex is in checkmate there's a catch-22 and that is that you need to buy products because

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if you don't then that will guarantee that Infowars goes away so if you don't buy anything

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they're gonna be gone right if you do buy things they're probably gonna be gone right

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here's the issue okay who gives a shit right you need to bet on Infowars I like this now

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we're talking you might not get what you order okay now I'm liking this that's a gamble this

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is a pitch there's a federal hearing tomorrow and if the judge doesn't block where a gamble

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closed the doors here the Democrat Party judge they we can be closed in the next few days

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now I don't believe that's gonna happen I believe the judge is going to block this tomorrow

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also the federal trustee took control of bank accounts so he's in control of it I think

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about 90% chance that the judge blocks this tomorrow that said it creates a paradox where

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if you've got your orders in for products that we need you to order to stay on air plus

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the great products you could I guess the state judge might be wild enough we've already seen

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that to not care about you and then you don't get your products but you'll be alright the

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average order is like 50 bucks I understand you know that that's a bummer but if you stop

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betting on us just because you think they're about to bring us down you'll be the ones

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that kill us inadvertently instead of them you see what I'm saying yes on Infowars bet

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on us continuing on that is quite a sales pitch you might not get what you order I like

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that but you gotta do it or else we're screwed alright I'm uninspired I mean if I'll say

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this if that was Boeing's new slogan it'd be a lot more honest hey listen you're probably

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gonna get there this is what happens when you don't have a coherent PR department and

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no one has like the message isn't being polished it's a little bit difficult to really kind

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of get your head around that one unless this is intentional because I'm sitting here thinking

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yeah fuck that sounds risky it does sound risky I don't want to order stuff if I don't

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know if I'm gonna get it oh but you do like to gamble but I wish that there was a way

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I could support Alex and be certain that I was gonna get what I ordered oh if only there

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was an option there was a 100 oh my god now that said I will tell you where your order

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is completely safe and where you should bet on us and the safest bet on your future and

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freedom is drjonesnaturals.com and so many of the old products that were in Infowars

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that were so popular that the CRO just kicked out of the shopping cart I guess to look to

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me like scuttle the company my dad yeah he's coming already had a warehouse set up in north

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austin years ago I told him he shouldn't do it he did it and thank god he didn't listen

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to me he's smarter than me in many ways and he set it up so it's got the rocket rest the

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kama chill the top brain nootropic all the nano silver products the toothpaste the immune

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gargle the immune topical the the fiber greens that are concentrated sproutling seeds that

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flush out your gut and do amazing things your body concentrate and the next level foundational

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energy and turbo force a very limited small run it'll be sold out within just a few days

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because it's discounted 40 plus percent also there's colloidal silver 30 parts per million

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good old silver bullet good old silver bullet all these old products that alex used to sell

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his dad selling now but it's totally different company I feel like we run the risk at a certain

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point of sounding like we're you know hitting the same beat or whatever but this is nuts

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that he this is so transparent yeah and so like not a problem yeah well okay here's how

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I feel about this because I've been furious for a while I don't know if you know this

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I'm a fairly angry person I get that vibe sometimes right you know how when you were

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playing galaga as a kid or galaga I think it's galaga galaga all right galaga whatever

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and then you get down to the final ones okay and the trick is you need to shoot at where

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the thing is going to be right not at where it was because by the time you aim for where

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it was it will be at where it was going to be this is the principle of throwing a ball

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right right right so so now while I respect everyone's excellent work in the legal system

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up until this point great job five stars I would posit that it's entirely possible later

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on people will say maybe this whole fake business of dr jones's naturals should also be paying

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for things yeah right but aha see then you will have dr jones involved who will also

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be able to hire lawyers who will be able to hire lawyers who are not norm pattus right

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and then we will go back into a courtroom my friend i i do think that what you're describing

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is like alex is a moving target yeah and shoot for it now get it now that has a certain amount

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of advantages to it absolutely um and one of them is he's clearly just uh remaking infowars

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health or infowars life under the uh his dad's banner we just started singing songs for street

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right oh it's one step like what are we doing guys everybody are we dumb or am i dumb um

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i'm a clown well we'll find out man so alex has been uh lied about by lots of people tons

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of people some people have even been offered as much as 50 000 to make up lies about it

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i wish and i mean i can't tell you how many people have called me where the media has

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called them and offered them money to lie about me and they've refused the money and

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it goes up to like 50 grand and he offers and they just feel like they have a free hand

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to lie about me and attack me and they got one employee got paid off of the southern

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property law center and ran around in here for a year really committing i believe it's

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criminal people say well why don't you press charges it's just it takes us off mission

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yeah they had a southern property law center operative in here that hacked into the camera

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systems and and and tried to find something bad that we were doing and of course couldn't

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but they still published the stuff and it was like me smoking a cigarette which i have

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i've quit for 14 years but i occasionally smoke a cigarette and it's just i love tobacco

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i love chewing tobacco i love pipes i love i love cigars i can't smoke one cigar though

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or i it was about a couple years ago i was at the shooting range and i spoke i smoked

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a cigar and the next day one of the crew was smoking a cigarette i said give me one of

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those and that's what you got is me standing there outside my office with a glass with

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ice in it pouring vodka in it and with a cigarette hanging out of my mouth i mean that's that's

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the best you got really and everybody knows i do that i admit it i'm an idiot i'm a man

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i can't help it so i'm like my ancestors hell hell knows they did it i think one of the

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bigger issues was uh you know the full bottles of booze uh during the day like at 10 a.m

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at the office yeah like it's i mean there's a bigger picture than uh than what alex is

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portraying and i think i think he's now at a point where he just kind of has to admit

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the smoking thing yeah because you're just a smoker he was hiding that for a bit but

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now with the like uh you know he's in situations where you can't cover it up like that owen

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did his live stream of uh there we're going out of business spectacular and on that show

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you couldn't hide that alex was lighting up cigarettes in the in the studio and so like

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he's just kind of like oh god we're gonna incorporate this in whatever why not who cares

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i i mean honestly and honestly i don't care yeah you smoke can make sense high stress

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this is we're we're like the idea is that he should be stressed like we're all grateful

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that he's feeling not good like we we shouldn't be at the very least he doesn't feel good

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most of the time it's someone in alex's position were he really himself yeah he believes he's

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fighting the fucking devil who can possess people to do his bidding and they could be

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walking anywhere and they have their their sort of hooks in all kinds of uh institutions

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and government bodies and all this yeah he should be on air with his tie uh undone a

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glass of scotch yeah yeah yeah cigarette yeah smoke the way you got him the world is ending

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nuclear war is around the corner all the time yeah why not smoke it's just that he doesn't

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believe any of those things yeah you can it's hard to be like well i don't want to get lung

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cancer in 40 years but also nuclear war is three months away yeah so alex has a guest

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on mm-hmm and this guy um is a bit of a troll online sure and he lives in the russian consulate

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in australia great always trying to tell you the truth doesn't mean i don't make some mistakes

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sometimes but in the main i've been dead on over the target all right our guest

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simian boykov known as the aussie cossack is himself a political prisoner in australia

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just like julian assange he's living at the consulate so this fellow simian boykov is a

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pro-russia troll who posts bullshit on social media it's fitting that he would be on infowars

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because as reported by the bbc boykov was responsible for misidentifying the perpetrator

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of a 2024 sydney mall attack that left six people dead which led to the harassment being directed

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towards the misidentified person this is quite literally the same thing alex has done to

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so many people including uh marcel fontaine boykov is hiding in the russian consulate in

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sydney to avoid facing charges that he quote allegedly caused a 76 year old man to fall down

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a staircase backwards sustaining a head injury this was at a pro-ukraine event the victim was

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ukraine supporter and boykov unfortunately recorded himself pushing the dude down some

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stairs so it's a pretty open and shut case right right all right that assault happened in december

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2022 and after he fled to the consulate to hide putin granted him russian citizenship in september

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2023 great anyway the guy's a pro-putin shill who has a history of exploiting tragedies in ways that

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cause direct harm to innocent people so he's a perfect fit for alex to have on the show this is

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ridiculous wow uh you know i think here's the thing about that all right until the internet

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you had to really get close to an oligarch to toady up to them you know you had to be a

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like right there or at least you know they they had to get your ideas to them man can you imagine

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like somebody who is a big supporter of like king louis you know all the way across the world uh

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just uh talking shit enough that louis like you're french now amazing if you build enough clout yeah

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yeah that that wasn't possible thank god for the internet now you could talk your shit to the point

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where you can get anything you want in this world it opens up doors it is it is amazing so uh

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obviously uh the big news is that julie nassange was uh released sure and so this is a unqualified

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victory for people like alex is it well they're thrilled about it they love uh they love julie

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nassange but there is a little bit of a downside and that is that trump was supposed to do this

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there was that this is supposed to be something that like this is one of the biggest things that

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alex complains about trump right he got the vaccines he didn't pardon us on right right

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all of this stuff and now asan is being released under biden which is a problem that is a problem

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yeah that is a fucking problem but how do you get around it that's a good question see if these two

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can come up with a way all right broken clocks are right twice a day uh trump did not do the right

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thing with asan he was threatened by the cia he admitted that and he did not uh give him a pardon

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but biden under overwhelming public support bipartisan upward in the 80s uh to to release

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asanj has done the right thing so we do give credit when it is due ossy cossack

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well i agree with you it's a great thing to celebrate it gives hope and it's a breath of

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fresh air some good news amongst all the bad news in the world at the moment uh but the question is

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but the question is why would they do this and i don't think they did it to help asanj they've done

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it to help themselves and i think that biden just tried to probably disarm trump that trump couldn't

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use this card before uh the presidential uh debate which is upcoming and this basically question has

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been neutralized that's the best uh assumption that we uh can draw upon brilliant it's defensive

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it's a defense move so trump can't attack biden about this right right aha that is

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genius but it's not because let's say let's imagine the scenario where uh trump was like

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hey you should release julie nassange yeah then biden could be like you didn't yeah because he

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was president too yeah there is the you were also president part you had every opportunity to do

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this why are you attacking me over something you didn't do yeah it doesn't really make sense as a

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defensive move in the way that uh boykov is uh expressing yeah it does it doesn't really make

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sense it would be nice though if like that was what the debate turned into is the like here's

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what i would have done and it's like well why didn't you let's fucking do this shit all right

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so uh the military industrial complex boom and then they're both dead and we move on you know

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madis wouldn't let me do you remember right prebus what are we doing what are we doing i don't know

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everybody calm it down so look this dude um he pushed someone down a flight of stairs

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he pushed somebody down a flight of stairs it's not like a whole like a interior flight of stairs

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like a whole floor it was a smaller staircase but it was still like a dude went backwards down some

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stairs and got hurt so anyway alex uh has a different take on what he did that sounds right

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you exposed the poison shots they came and arrested you for your speech and are now trying

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to put you in prison for it that's how tyrannical australia is they're now passed a regulation to

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quote deprogram men to not be masculine and have set up a federal bureau i mean australia is is is

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beyond orwellian now for people that don't know absolutely this country is not what it used to be

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it's not a safe place uh for especially for journalists i mean if you're just a person who

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wants to uh tread along in life pay forty for seven percent of your wages and tax and be part

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of the rat race it's okay but as soon as you stick your head above the water if you're a tall poppy

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as they say in australia you're in danger and assange's return to australia maybe that's part

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of the plea bargaining deal that he's made that he has to return to australia maybe that's part

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of the deal that the americans wouldn't release him for example into the russians custody but i

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think assange's full capacity his potential as the world's number one journalist as some people

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are calling him i tend to agree with that myself his potential could be fully was there a tournament

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he was living in a country where the government would support him where the state media would

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support him being in australia assange would still be scrutinized he would still be at risk at threat

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because we are all at risk or under threat in australia there is no freedom of speech in

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australia as you mentioned alex yeah so these should go to russia i mean you know that's uh

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where i saw where journalists can truly be free you know he makes a compelling argument yeah

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yeah i i i appreciate i appreciate anybody who can get the cushy job of wanting to be

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somewhere where they don't have any of the advantages that they get to have currently

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while never actually wanting to go there that's that's a good gig especially apparently as he

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describes it the russian consulate in sydney is pretty nice they got a gym they got uh so he's

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staying there and it's it's pretty pretty sweet it's better than russia probably better than where

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he was living yeah right i don't know what a cushy gig yeah yeah all you gotta do is push somebody

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down the stairs i mean okay okay i've been thinking about this what is personal responsibility

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what is personal responsibility and i think at the end of the day at the end of the day we should

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define it as if somebody shows you a video of this fucking guy pushing an old man down the street

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that he fucking filmed right then you don't get to stay at the consulate you have to go with them

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sorry sir what if you say a bunch of stuff that uh the we like it i apologize listen we think you're

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great but personal responsibility dictates that you must go with these gentlemen sir i'm afraid

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that that's not how it works there we go so look here's uh this guy yeah the boy kov uh-huh he

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believes that asan should go to russia because that's where journalists are free sure and that's

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what he thinks he thinks if you go to australia you're never gonna get a fair shake go for it

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gotta go to russia yeah but also maybe he should stay in australia maybe and become prime minister

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interesting he's gonna take a month off recharge and come roaring out of there i think he's gonna

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come out of there like a bat of hell look the australian people need him and i think the west

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needs a science that's as a breath of fresh air there's a very high level of trust towards him

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if he goes for it he'll i think he'll become prime minister he can of australia uh but at the same

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time uh if he wants to have a rest and if he wants to just retire russia is open for people like

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asan snowden is in russia there's plenty of western journalists in moscow like moscow is

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crawling with no believe me i know the russians have got the doors wide open believe me i'm gonna

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leave it at that you're always welcome to russia also you know that too uh it'd be news making if

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i told you uh so you you've they've already invited you yeah yeah okay yeah yeah of course

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shit why wouldn't they you already but they already did like in 2015 you already said this

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yeah yeah so it's not it's not anything new he's somebody that they they see some use in

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yeah there's no reason that you wouldn't offer him a job if you're a russian state media company

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you'd be like yeah fuck yeah go for it and and he's uh you know he's been uh on enough media

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places where they flattered him as the ideal of the western man yeah no i mean the the only thing

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about it is like if if i was russia i'd be like hey you do what you want to do it is exactly like

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you having a boss because we can finance you and all this stuff but literally we're a state actor

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we give no fucks what you say about anything you're not here right so just go you know like

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why not have a russia wars website and just call it that like it doesn't matter or maybe

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info wars moscow all right what about that so you they've already invited you

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yeah yeah info wars moscow it's got a nice i'm not gonna make some i gotta go down with a ship

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and my family's been here on the mayflower texas revolution we let it i i have to go down with the

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ship i can't leave i appreciate you know the offer and uh i'll leave it at that but yeah i came

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directly from the top and uh so and but you know it just shows putin's got his eye on things i mean

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he's he he basically i mean he gave you citizenship boom well look putin respects patriots and uh

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patriots american patriots australian patriots russian patriots it's all very similar a patriot

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is someone who cares about his country and his people and that's the main fight somebody that

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can't be bought yeah man yeah y'all have bad ideas about words and just things in general it's fun

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though it's fun to hear i guess this guy who's hiding in the russian consulate sydney and alex

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are talking about how much putin loves patriots is it is it is he just too hot is putin too online

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or all world leaders just too online now well is that a thing you wonder if it's actually

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putin or or if it is the projection of putin that these people who are too online have created it

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has to be something like that yeah or putin is just like who's this fucking guy on my twitter

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feed who is saying mean things about ukrainians but also i think that it would be in um you know

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the sort of putin's worst interests to actually have alex go to russia of course because you'd

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have to kill him eventually you don't want him there no you want him in exactly the position

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we're in right here he's right there you keep him alex we will give you all flatter the shit out of

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you of course and this will be great you've got rubles for days you will never ever be critical

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of us in any way nope as long as we're super complimentary totally yeah and then we don't have

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to kill you we don't just don't come here because then you'll be like i don't like this and then you

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gotta go yeah yeah so alex uh and uh boikov uh go their separate ways sure and uh alex uh i guess

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he's uh into seth rich conspiracies again why not talking about julian assange and him saying seth

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rich was the leaker on the dnc who was shot in the back and executed and all their attempts

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to shut down discussions of that i want to air clip 17 joe rogan talking about seth rich just

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remember what assange and and people of the world not just americans have gone through what about

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what about what seth rich's family has gone through what are you doing does rogan want you

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to re-air this stuff is he is he thrilled that uh you're doing the this again i i don't know i i

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haven't listened to enough rogan maybe he does still stand by this stuff but like this was the

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kind of thing that was going to get him sued by yeah seth's parents yeah yeah like so i i don't

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know if this is necessarily in anyone's best interests i mean i i i'm fine with it i'm fine

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with all of it because at this point right here's here's what i'm struggling with at this point

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it's very clear that these people are going to believe bullshit so if you just are like hey don't

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say that because there might be consequences it's not going to change anything probably not

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and then eventually you're not going to be looking and they're going to be like

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haha you're not looking bad seth rich's you know like that look how much we're reliving 2016

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that's what i'm saying i can't do it again rich i can't do it again it's conspiracies julian

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assange is in the news nope all of you overthrow the government or don't i'm out oh so anyway alex

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has a plan to stay in business and uh obviously we all know what it is but he doesn't want to

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talk about it oh he doesn't and there is a path where we will continue on and i'm not going to

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get into the strategy on that but i've told you we're here people say well why are you still here

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they try to shut you down for weeks we're fighting back we're using every maneuver we can we're in a

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war that's what it looks like when you don't just sit there like a jellyfish and take stuff

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that said we're cornered but it's okay we won't give up even if they shut down in full wars we'll

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be stronger than ever in many ways though i'm loyal to this crew and loyal this operation so

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naturals.com couldn't be amazing couldn't be more clear really couldn't be more clear what the game

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is it's outside of austin dan it's in round rock it's outside of austin he's never even been there

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no totally different city completely totally different company different business totally

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different generation listen all all i'll say is that it would take a bankruptcy judge not to see

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the difference between those two so uh i was a bit underwhelmed as a whole by the 25th yeah outside

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of this weird interview with this russian guy where alex is clearly saying i've had offers

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right um yeah so we're jumping to the 26th and i was just completely flabbergasted by

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the beginning of this episode it is 15 minutes long ish of alex talking about how he's going

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to cover something tomorrow okay and that is yeah okay they are expanding these and they are

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gearing them up and this is the climate this is the time they're going to use them he's talking

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about fema caps sure back at the time i didn't say it was imminent i didn't say they were going

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to use them yes i said they're there and i went over the history of it i made five films on it

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i wrote a book on it previous to you know obama and his executive orders we have been all over

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this like flies on you know what or like white on rice and so i promise you tomorrow

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that we will be covering this in great detail i mean i could talk about it all right now

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do it i am a leading expert on this okay because i've discovered it decades ago and i've been

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exposing it go then go but now i realize alex you haven't talked about fema camps and their

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plans for years i mean i'm mr fema cam everybody knows that there's a long-term listener everybody

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doesn't know that mr fema cam mr fema cam um i think you may have just forgotten some specifics

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and talking points and uh i guess maybe it's hot now maybe maybe there's some memes going around

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yeah that that yeah and so we're doing fema we we've heard this on on some past episodes that

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these these fema camp narratives are coming back sure but now it seems acute

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uh and like alex feels the need to reassert his dominance yeah in the field yeah yeah yeah but

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he can't so he's gonna do it tomorrow but he's gonna talk for 15 minutes about how he's gonna

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do it tomorrow right on this show right i was just like this is there's there's layers to this

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well no i mean if you want if you really want to hear about it you have to go to www.drfebacamps.com

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right absolutely that's where you can get alex's dad's fema exactly he's he's doctor fema camp

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right mr femacamp alex is just mr femacamp so we get a supreme court decision that came out

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yeah uh and alex uh not not not very happy about it oh but there's town hall supreme court watch

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the first minute was just dealt a major blow uh not a blow if it's implemented and allowed to

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stand it's a decapitation i mean it is it is crazy town and i've got the ruling right here i read it

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this morning i was i felt good till i read the ruling i was you know having a nice day i got

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nauseous i mean i painted my stomach because it's so horrible it's not just saying first

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amendment's gone it's saying we're going to surveil you and spy on you and the government

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itself is going to censor you total prior constraint absolutely illegal a nightmare

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situation and it's just par with the course uh here you know what dirt do they have on the

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supreme court going to do this or with the other six cases in front of them are they about to shoot

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it down another way they think it's a better way to shoot it down another way i don't know this was

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a good case we had lawyers on researched it i mean they had a very strong case cut and dry and the

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supreme court well i'll tell you what they said bam so the supreme court didn't destroy the first

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amendment sure they ruled in murphy versus missouri that it's not a violation of the first

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amendment for the government to express their desire for social media platforms to remove

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content the government cannot act in ways that are coercive towards these platforms but there's

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nothing wrong with them asking to not allow stuff like recruiting ads for terrorist groups or

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advice that people should drink bleach instead of getting vaccinated the government can express to

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these places like this is not this is bad content could you please don't kill yourself this is

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dangerous right right right this uh underlying case was a bad case unlike what alex says he

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says it's a good case he said it was a bad case yeah and it really only made it to the supreme

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court because the fifth circuit court of appeals is increasingly far right sure these days sure

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and they've made a number of dubious decisions that end up going to the supreme court like this

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one great which is the strategy yeah that is the the right wing strategy let's get these balls

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through the i mean i mean i i find it so i i i'm i guess i'm fascinated by it because i don't

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understand it at all it's like uh there there's this uh blog slate slate or whatever and they

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still do supreme court coverage all the time but like a a couple of years ago they after you know

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after the rovi way after all of that stuff they had this like the supreme court is broken whole

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thing like outlining all of the ways in which this is just a legally incorrect opinion and that it was

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not going to change and so the supreme court itself was functionally broken right and then

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they kept writing articles which does not make sense to me like why would any opinion count after

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you've said they're broken you know what i'm saying like what why why would you be like oh

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the supreme court is out of pocket on this decision no they're broken they were broken

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years ago you told me right right don't tell me anymore well they're broken same writer

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that's the same blog yeah it's different contributors sure maybe i don't know it's tough

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it's tough to make a publication responsible for like what one person might have said sure

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that could have been an op-ed that the supreme court is broken it's not it's not like this is

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news right but i don't understand but sometimes but that's the thing about the law though that's

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the fun thing about the law is that it's supposed to be hard no you know so if you if you break the

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law which is there like it's readable so like if you're the supreme court and you have the

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law that you could read and you're like nah then it's broken i i don't i don't disagree with you

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i'm just saying i'm just saying that like uh you know slate maybe isn't responsible for every

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no no no i respect that i respect what you're saying but i get you i get you underlying that

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maybe what we should do yeah is if you're gonna run that article maybe you should just have like

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a little asterisk at the beginning of all of the future supreme court stories that says broken

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supreme court is broken until further notice supreme court is broken yeah like a wet floor

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sign totally yeah because that's better than trying to pretend like uh like oh no eventually

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they'll be we'll appoint a different judge and they'll bring a new case whenever these guys are

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dead yeah business as usual kind of get out of here come on now so uh alex is uh you know he's

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he's complaining here a bit about how uh americans are going to be replaced by migrants yeah which we

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know is sure you know something any moment now yep and then he announces that he's going to have

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nick fuentes on the show and this is strange because alex has made it very clear that he

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doesn't agree with how racist nick is in in recent times yeah he's been very aware of how much of a

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bigot anti-semite nick is he's really going for it alex has made some lines between like uh that

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like i i don't agree with this kind of stuff that nick says sure so alex has to rationalize having

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him on right and again biden says he's signing the executive order just to legalize the illegal

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aliens and a week ago it was just you know people that are married to a citizen now this week it's

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well it's going to be a path for everybody to be citizens the globalists have done the math they

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can bring in a giant third world population that doesn't know what freedom is and they can check

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make this country and the voters of this nation i am just absolutely amazed because i mean i knew

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this was all coming but we're now living in this they've got camps set up for us they've they've

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got new viruses they see are coming out they want to forcibly inject us with stuff that kills us i

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mean if they treat with a machine gun you'd fight back right but they come with a doctor and a shot

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kills you six months later kills you two years later it's like okay no no this is literally a

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ruling class that has decided to kill americans and replace us with a bunch of third world slaves

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but i feel sorry for and i want to help but at the end of the day they're now a weaponized group

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who had their country shut down for three plus years and lockdowns who are organizing u.n camps

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with replacement migration and then that are assaulting the united states so when nick foine

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test comes on he's a smart guy has a big following and i disagree with some of the things he says

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agree with a lot of what he says i'm gonna just ask him questions like hey what do we do about a

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civil war what do we do about the camps what do we do about the forced injections what do we do

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about yeah child because we just all day have you know culture war and and i get it israel's corrupt

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israel's got problems the israel lobby is going after free speech in america i'm critical of it

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but i don't then support the muslims and the palestinians either

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but to me it's it's it's it's all other people seem to talk about is israel all day

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israel all day well what are we going to do about the plan for a civil war

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look i gotta talk to nick fuentes because he's smart and popular but i don't want to talk i

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don't want to express his feelings about jewish people i just really don't want that if he can

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play the game then we could pretend all this other stuff isn't there but yeah i can't that's

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the sense that i get i i just i feel like when there's somebody yeah who is like a big old

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bigot yeah and part of the reason uh part of what underlies their arguments is these inherent

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bigotries that they have right you can't say i disagree with some things and agree with others

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when you agree with the conclusions that are built on top of the the bigotries right right

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right you really can't do that but that's what alex that's the trick that he's trying to pull

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yeah i mean it is it's it's a weird it's a weird feeling to be like listen i think what will be

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best for you emotionally is if you just admit you're a nazi to yourself and say it's okay for

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me to hate right well see alex is coming at it from the other perspective which is what would

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be best for you you make more money sure is if you just cool down a little bit of the words that

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you say sure and then we can pass you off as normal right right right we can pass you off

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as not this nazi guy right right but you're broke and you're a nazi too right but nick's broke too

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oh man i don't know if he's broke we're a pair he just tried to do his america first political

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action conference in detroit and the ended up getting cancelled because the venue found out

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oh it's a nazi rally yeah it's a nazi rally and so they ended up having to give a speech on the

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street they got thrown out of the place where their after party was supposed to be sure so i

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think that nick is in a place where he might be like maybe i do gotta play maybe you gotta play

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some ball yeah maybe hey you know i there's that's always fun it's always fun whenever there's the

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young person who's like i'm not gonna do it like they did in the past and then they do it for a

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while and they're like oh there's a reason they did it like they did in the past and then they

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just do it you know like tyler the creator we might be getting closer to that inflection point

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of nick softening yep and it's interesting it's gonna be tucker carlson in two months

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i was i was pretty sure and i mean we still have to see how things shake out and all this

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but i was pretty sure that nick would be the one who was very like uncompromising and un

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like he had he had much more principle and alex was you know the one who was gonna lose out in

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the end sure but when i listened to this interview i really felt like nick was being like playing

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alex's game yeah like he learned the lesson of like i mean i gotta play ball this is this is

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what comes from us being like completely childless people you know young people are very very certain

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very certain of how things are always going to be in principles or so you know and then they change

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in like two seconds yeah that's just what they are so um yeah alex gets to talking about the

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business yep and i i i had no other way to describe this clip then you have to be an

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couldn't be more obvious what is going on he's making this so visible yeah here's i like it see

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here's the problem for me i'm i'm now i've gone through to the other side i'm rooting for him i'm

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rooting for him to win this one and i'll tell you why right because i've been saying stuff like oh

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this legal system it's no good right and people are like nominally like eh but you know there's

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things and then there's things and then they do the thing right but if if alex gets away with this

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nobody can argue with me ever again all of you have to be quiet i guess you have a vested

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interest in him i thought you were gonna say that it's a catch me if you can kind of like no no no

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no no no no i want him pulling for the i'm i'm excited i'm excited because people have argued

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with me for so long about stuff and if alex wins everyone has to be quiet around me if it's quiet

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like it's quiet if alex can pull off the dr jones naturals switcheroo yep then everyone has to be

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quiet when i walk into it when i walk into room everybody has to like avert their eyes for a

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little while and be like i'm sorry jordan that's just what has to happen now all right okay the

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new policy mark it down i'm writing it down right now okay so nick shows up uh here on the show but

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alex is a bit defensive about the fact that he's on because alex has made it clear that nick thinks

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differently about different groups of people right like based on races and religions and that kind of

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stuff and so he's really trying to rationalize this booking choice i want to cover 35 000 foot

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view stuff and get nick's take on that because i see him talk about history and big other world

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events and he done has done his homework what do you got nick foyntez on you know this this you

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know this uh nazi i wouldn't call him a nazi i would i'll explain where i stand is 100 clear

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when the adl the southern property law center the democratic party the major media literally says

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you're bad to be white in the wall street journal the new york times cnn everywhere and my six-year-old

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daughter now seven was at a summer camp last year for a sports camp and during lunch they had on

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loudspeakers that white people are inherently bad and she said am i bad because i'm white

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it is healthy for white people to stand up and say i'm not going to take this anymore

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and i'm not going to be guilty now you go to an extreme then fairy of hating everybody else

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that isn't white in my view most people that aren't white are not out to get us and they're

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good people but what a large group are being brainwashed and whites are minorities seven

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percent worldwide so overall i've been thinking compared to the adl's total supremacy anti-western

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anti-christian stuff well what do you expect you're going to conjure with what you're doing

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and so in overton window nick foyntez moves it over here away from all whites are bad and we're

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the devil and we should pay reparations and kill ourselves with you know nick over here saying

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basically the opposite oh okay so nick is maybe not maybe he's a nazi but he's uh you know what

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do you expect and it works to our advantage this is very strange this does this is not a good

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defense of the booking i mean you know it is it is so much like all of these all of the arguments

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for so many things are so elaborate because if you just talk about the real truth of it it doesn't

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sound good you know where it's like well i've got all these thoughts about here's on the one hand

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and on the other because the truth is just like i'm a nazi you know like if you just if you're

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just if you're just truthful with yourself it's usually a lot shorter than the explanation you

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tell yourself yeah you know but it is also much less lucrative because right people will treat

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you like a self-avowed self-declared nazi once you do that and that's tougher for business yeah

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yeah like it's uh yeah that's just tough dr jones naturals might pull their support

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it's tough if you do that i mean i i imagine it must have it must feel so stupid for and i would

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i would imagine someone to say like something like that well you would think but i mean for

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for the people who believe for true like pro-life people it must feel so stupid for so long for them

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to be like yeah a three-month-old man is the right amount you know because like they're they

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never meant it right but then because the question is or like we totally uh are cool with

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contraception totally yeah absolutely oh divorce is gonna be fine forever no interest in that

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we definitely don't have a book that supersedes your laws right uh uh all of that stuff but it

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is like because the question that you're talking about is we think the soul comes in at this moment

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you know so you can't be like oh well three months is fine that's just like for now i'm gonna get

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away with three months right because i think the soul comes in at the moment this is where we the

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acceptable line is for people to not immediately discount our arguments right and eventually maybe

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we can push it over to that side yep and nick uh is the representative of complete white identity

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yep and all this shit no exceptions for rape and incest right yeah yeah and alex is like well you

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know if we can push it closer to that listen but if but if we say we can have exceptions now then

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we cannot have them later yeah absolutely yeah we tell them that it's three months now and then six

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months from now we'll make it zero yeah but if you say zero now we'll never have it that's that's the

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tension yeah so alex asks um absurd uh compound question to kick things off love it that culminates

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with alex retracting his question and then saying what would you do if you were president

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put on your prediction cap here of what you think they're going to pull out i mean i want to say the

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election fraud won't be enough to steal it the numbers are there so let's just hypothetically say

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trump wins in 131 days what happens then and what can we do to make sure he gets in and then how we

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hold his feet in the fire and make sure he doesn't compromise uh just out of some of his political

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ignorance and that's what's going on for my own research and then what and then and then the big

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question that's a lot of questions what would you do if you were president trump if nick j foyntez

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was sworn in january 21st 2025 what does nick foyntez do let's just start there well day one

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i mean the first thing you got to do is close the border you know because that is people talk about

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election fraud and you could talk about ballots you could talk about media but the biggest way

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that they're stealing elections is they're importing voters they're reporting these people

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i imagine a lot of them are voting illicitly and even if they're not well of course they are and

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even if they're not they're also being counted in the census which is how the electoral college

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votes are allocated how the house is allocated right so uh alex has this complex question and

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then he's like what would you do if you're president which is a question he's already asked

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nick on the show i've heard him ask that question before yeah and alex knows the answer to that

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question yep this is a test this is a test question because if nick says we kick all the jews out of

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office yep then it's like okay you haven't learned your lesson yet right all right but if you say

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something like this like close the borders the uh illegal people voting is how we end up with

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changes in congress seats you're speaking in the right way we're getting you there yep and i i

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i can't feel i can't hear that as any other thing than a test because alex has asked that fucking

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question before yeah yeah i'm i'm definitely i'm getting season five of the wire vibes right now

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you know like are we doing the part where everybody's taking in the old jobs of the new

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people is that what's happening i think i mean is this the new bubbles are we doing the new

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bubbles what's happening right now i i don't know but maybe i mean like nick was in detroit

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bullhorning on the street because he couldn't be booked anywhere to speak what are we how is that

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not similar to alex at the beginning of his career oh my god yeah and the cats and the

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cradles and the silver spoon i was gonna say you gotta keep the devil way down the hall

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so uh nick complains about dei oh those deis yeah but then you can hear him sort of uh expressing

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his racism through a bit of code sure and i think that i i think he's making an effort maybe oh

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that's nice it's a difficult thing i think that it starts with the political transition we need

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to get these people out of power they're reckless irresponsible you know for a long time they made

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it seem like they were the adults in the room and it was the populace like you and i that were crazy

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and you know you and i we have colorful personalities clearly we are much more on the

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ball and our fingers much more on the pulse than these planners who think that it's a good idea to

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import limitless number of people to go to war with russia and china and iran all at the same

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time and you know all these endless things that just don't really make sense but they insist do

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so it starts with a political solution of getting the right people in power getting responsible

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people in power and we need to get smart people to start to start to come up with solutions i

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think that's why the dei stuff has to go because at the same time that our problems are growing in

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complexity and growing in number we're getting people that are less sophisticated less competent

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less in general do not have the aptitude for it we're choosing people based on the skin color

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based on ideology rather than competence so america needs to think in terms of people power

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people are the greatest asset we need to have the right people accelerate through the advanced

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colleges we need the right people to join politics we need the right people at the helm

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of the white house congress we need the right people i mean wow that's that's somebody who's

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like listen i took a george wallace school of not saying segregation anymore oh my god i learned

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from uh 68 wow yeah fucking hell the right people yeah but you can tell that alex is getting what he

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wants out of this right you have got nick who is a much more um he sounds more like a normal person

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than alex with alex's flair for the dramatic sure crying uh yelling and all this nick for if you

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don't know anything about him and you just saw him talking you'd be like there's a studious

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person or whatever so he speaks in code and speaks in all the the ways that the right wing is

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accustomed to when they try to launder a lot of this bullshit there's a very marketable person

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here yep and i think that alex is is picking up on like yep i put out some bait and he didn't take it

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oh my god well i'm really liking this conversation this is what i want to do with kanye a few years

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ago when he was in here with nick he can go off on whatever group he wants for 10 minutes we heard

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it now i want to see about the rest of the world and big issues and what we're going to do and the

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wars and the border and the the ai and and you know all of this and and so he can go off on any

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group that he wants but if he does it we can pretend that he doesn't think those things and

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we can pretend that the reason that he believes the political positions that he does uh believe

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in aren't in many ways uh built on his feelings about these groups yep we can play hide uh hide

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the ball here that's that's i just can't i can't get away from thinking that's what's going on no

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i mean it's exactly what's going on it's it's just like i don't know i don't know how long or how

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long we've been around for this entire like that person who's clearly a nazi said some nazi shit on

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tv but said it in code and then the people on the tv are like yeah but you know what he probably

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didn't and that's it yeah and nick is uh being trained totally uh you're a young man totally

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fine calm down and you can push all your nazi ideas that you want listen we all love nazis here

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that's what we're doing we're america we love nazis but we don't like saying it okay especially

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everybody loves nazis but nobody wants you to wear the uniform that's what that's what alex is trying

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to get through the to this young young nazi yeah anyway um alex and and nick do have a little bit

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of problem in front of them sure and that is that trump recently said that people who graduate from

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colleges should get a green card sure and uh whatever fine well there's a problem that can't

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be okay of course it can of course it can't these people are largely motivated by hatred of immigrants

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of course um and this is also a position that is really old this is a this is not a new idea for

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trump to have it's an idea that these folks are very much against yeah and uh so they have they

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have a little trouble with that okay but i i did like 10 minutes yesterday a whole segment

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and i said i get what nick pointes is saying and i agree with a lot of the groipers but i said then

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there's a whole nother extreme of of you know people saying well we don't like anybody that

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isn't white and i'm just like that's not how i feel i like everybody i judge people off of how

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they operate and what they do but then i also went on and i said yeah this trump thing is dangerous

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uh you know just saying anybody gets a college degree well they can give you you know mail-in

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degrees and then you're a citizen but at the same time trump's always been for highly skilled

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people that come here being able to be a citizen because that that's what he's done in business so

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people that are mad at trump about it and i get you're allowed to criticize i'm not saying that's

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bad to me trump will at least mitigate and shut the border down 90 percent would you rather have

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that or just oh biden saying get here come here take over blah blah blah so i don't believe in

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lesser of two evils but also don't believe in a suicide pact and i'm somebody very critical of

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trump so i'm not putting nick down for being critical of him yeah you're very you're famously

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critical of trump um also alex can't just say i'm not a lesser of two evils person after describing

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a lesser of two evils i mean yeah that's literally what he's describing yeah ridiculous yeah i i mean

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but that's the thing that's why uh it's it's just so much more fun being outside because then you

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cannot be a lesser of two evils guy the moment you play the game then you're immediately on like team

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sports and then you have to be like well my team's better than the other team so even though the

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other team is or my team sucks you know i still have to be you know it's like just leave right

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and the reason that my team is losing is that the other team actually has uh secretly replaced the

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coach yeah yeah the coach is a globalist yeah it can't be it can't be like both teams suck can't no

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nope not once not once you got that trump card no in there yep so um also uh alex is uh clearly not

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dealing with the community that uh he's trying to reach here with nick right right they are the

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people he's described yes so uh you gotta try and defend this uh this immigration thing because you

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can't turn on trump obviously right at this point right um you gotta just like uh we gotta somehow

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make this something we're really against but i guess it's not trump's fault like the covid vax

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thing yeah so that's what that's what we're aiming at it's really just about finding where is the

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sensible immigration policy no i totally agree with you and it's all been so one-sided it's

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healthy to say no more for now a moratorium i was simply saying people mad at trump this has always

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been his policy and if you go to one of his hotels it's mainly eastern europeans that's who he can get

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cheap that quite frankly wanted and i'm not saying americans are lazy it's just harder to find them

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and organize them though through these trade groups through these these corporate organizations

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you're on a cruise ship it's eastern europeans you're in a fancy hotel it's east europeans because

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for whatever reason they'll get the job done they'll do it that's the group they found that'll

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do it i understand trump's being honest about where he's made his money at his casinos at his

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hotels so it's just trump being honest so i don't see it as a bad thing as trump you can say it's a

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bad policy i'm just saying it's not some betrayal because that's what trump's always done well i

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would say that in in 2016 he did say that he would revise the h1b visa program so it is a little bit

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of a shift on the policy but you are right throughout his business career he did use

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immigrant labor you're absolutely right about that and you're also 100 right that and this

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is something that you notice and this shows that people are getting the information on info wars

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is that donald trump did attempt to recalibrate immigration and you're a hundred percent on the

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money that under the trump administration the focus shifted from family-based migration

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and humanitarian-based migration meaning refugees and asylum seekers to temporary or permanent work

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visas so there's a couple of interesting things that are going on here in this clip uh first

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apparently uh trump uh has made a lot of his money by exploiting uh eastern european immigrant labor

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apparently cool yeah turns out they're good slaves strange great alex okay second thing that dynamic

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with him and nick is weird because what alex is saying is like hey look you could disagree with

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it but he's not a hypocrite he's not changing his position and nick's immediate response is actually

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it is but then immediately he gives voice to you're 100 right you're right about this you're

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right he does use migrant labor there is a refusal to accept completely false reality right that nick

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is bringing to the table but then he catches himself and he's like all right but i'm agreeing

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with you here are the concessions i'm making just to get through this it feels like that yep yep

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strange i mean you know eventually you'd think listen i think the kid is an idiot but eventually

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you have to learn and he's touched fire so many times with alex at this point that it's like

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well frankly it'll just be an easier conversation if i just go you're smart and then say whatever i

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want that may be some of it yeah i think another part of it is the harsh reality of i probably need

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him now sure um could be maybe you know this is one of the only ways i could be the heir apparent

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honestly could be it's entirely possible he's better than he's better than this than oh i'm

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doing shit no owens owen's gone once once the boat is gone owen's adrift on a seaboard or whatever

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yeah so what they do agree on yeah two of them is that they want to uh stop immigration for 10 years

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that's what they that's you know what i'm so glad that they put a date on it because i was worried

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they wanted to stop it forever but since they said they wanted to stop it for 10 years these

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are reasonable people right these are three months but yeah these are smart people so they stop it

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for 10 years now i imagine that we can all plan our what we can all set our watches by that 10

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years everybody it'll start back up on this day all alex wanted was a 10-day investigation totally

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of the 2020 election absolutely january 6th and that's the key because the un the left the

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universities the media they're weaponizing people that's why i'm for a 10-year moratorium

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if you want to get technical when i could get trump to do what i wanted i would just say nobody

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10 years and and then let's let's build up america so if one of them where i would stand i'd say 10

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years zero immigration basically me too that's exactly you know yes what would i do on day one

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if i were trump at the convention i would say you know what we have just had too much immigration

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for too long and it's not helping anybody you know and it's actually interesting hispanics are

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becoming more republican it's these third and fourth generation hispanics who are actually

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now reacting against the first generation hispanics that are coming over and taking their

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jobs so it's like you said and i said this on twitter it almost isn't even necessarily a race

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issue race is a component but it doesn't need to be wait wait wait hold on hold on this doesn't

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need to be a race issue now race is a part of it but it doesn't have to be we can sell this in a

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non-racist way but don't get it twisted i am racist i i i mean you know it wasn't until we

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started doing this show that i really regretted learning learning all the words i loved words

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i used to love words dan i love books i loved the collected human understanding of things you read

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the encyclopedia as a young man but that's how you gained so much information loved it and now

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i realize that they're all empty meaningless and uh have no point other than for for the

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masturbatory purposes of these two idiots yeah yeah words exist to funnel money to dr jones

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yes that is exactly what words are for yeah i was a fool to think otherwise so um we know from

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listening to alex a whole bunch that there's a preoccupation with they're about to kill trump

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sure that was happening before the 2016 election it's gonna happen at his inauguration in 2016

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it's gonna happen the entire time he was in office yep it's gonna happen in the 2020 election

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they're always gonna kill him they're trying to poison his cokes his diet cokes

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um crazy yeah but now there might be something happening well he's just got regular heart disease

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he's an old fucking dude he's he's he's gonna die like immediately no they're gonna kill him okay

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but maybe yeah they'll kill biden instead or maybe both i don't know this is fun conversation yeah

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i like that let's do this is is that the deep state never gives up and that they kill jfk for

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not going along with them in 63 in dallas it is a real possibility they could kill trump or they

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could kill biden and claim a right winger did it to then use that as the excuse to replace him

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they could kill him at the dnc in chicago or right before i mean i i don't think it is a possibility

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i think it is a very good probability that they are considering doing this can you speak to the

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issue of assassination i think it's very likely i think you're right about that and the thing is

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about trump you have to realize they have thrown everything short of assassination at him yeah so

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they probably are gonna assassinate him but alex while he's talking he you know you could hear him

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say like maybe biden he gets more excited about the possibility that someone will kill biden sure

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because i think he realizes this is probably the only way that you know he's not the candidate

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yeah so alex is like oh wait they could do that yeah yeah yeah yeah and then we'd have a story

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then we'd have a much better tv cycle because there would be somebody who's not these two

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idiots yeah at least anybody so alex gets a little bit excited about that because i think that

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honestly the they're gonna kill trump is a little bit the sky is falling kind of you know i mean

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people are a little why we're a little bit we've heard this too many times it doesn't make sense

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to kill trump if you were going to kill trump trump would be dead there's no more there's no

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more i'm going to kill trump he can't more well no no because as nick explains they've done

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everything but that to him they've been trying all the other paths i really don't think they have

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i really do i kind of think nobody's put that much in his way at all and if anything everyone

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has opened the door as much as possible for him and they've repeated some things yeah you're like

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there are two impeachments yes yeah so yeah i don't know if it's just like uh escalating

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options that's the thing that's that lesser of two evils thing that's if you had two impeachments

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now you're losers so all the democrats are losers you tried twice and you lost so you're losers for

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good there's no teams there's no teams you're all losers you should feel bad for losing this

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clip is going to be in a trump ad jordan jordan homes noted leftist they lost in 2020 you're a

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bunch of fucking losers you lose just take the l no so uh we have one last clip here yeah and it's

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because alex kind of realizes like uh shit you were giving a speech on the street in detroit

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yeah because the system or whatever sure the hotel that you were giving a speech at and you're holding

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your confidence that realized who you were and didn't want to be associated right so you got

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kicked out and you got thrown out of things meanwhile it's happening at the same time that

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i was in detroit and i was on stage and welcome at turning point usa which did not allow you in

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right right interested yeah so let's who's got the street cred these days huh i didn't know you

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were going to detroit week in africa when i was invited to go to that and i was supposed to get

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there earlier but stuff got delayed but i got there after trump was there and i spoke the next

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day then i learned your event got canceled at another facility and then you were in tp usa

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and they threw you out i just want to say i like the folks at tp usa but they need to get past

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being scared of the establishment what they're going to say about us it shows how far they've

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come just to invite me that was them realizing being the outlaw being the outsider being the

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rebels good i think they should invite you to speak and say we don't agree with everything

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nick says but it's free speech they should invite leftists on you know they should invite

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aoc there that would make it more interesting but oh sure sure oh my god so there's there's

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just something really strange here but there's a couple things that are obviously implied by this

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one alex wasn't invited to america first pack nope so that's strange yep or he was and the

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condition of speaking at turning point was that he couldn't go there was nick fuentes's thing possible

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so there's he either wasn't wanted at america first or whatever now he did go to turning point

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and what alex is expressing essentially to nick is like you say the three-month thing yeah like

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as you put it yep you can get on stage at turning point get on stage yeah it's not hard they're not

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letting you in the door yeah yeah i think this is the this is the part where it's like this is

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why showbiz and politics should never be anywhere near each other because this is the old showbiz

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thing this is the old like i i've been famous i've been there kid and now i'm gonna take you

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under my wing this is the new comic who's opening for him on the road you know and he's telling him

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all this stuff and he's like did go along with him and ali alexander for the stop the steal

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and you can feel that like i used to have an edge i used to be there i remember the field

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i used to be thrown out of places i used to be cool and now i realize through you i am not but

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by being with you i can kind of get some of that juice again yeah you know and flip side nick is

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kind of realizing i think on some level when i do my bigoted ass show on the internet from my desk

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or wherever the fuck he's broadcasting from and all people like spam slurs in the chat and all

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this it feels like there's an outsized power to it right but then i try to bring this into the

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real world and we get thrown out of our venue we try to go to a bar for an after party we get

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thrown out and i end up giving speech on the street to an underwhelming crowd of people yep

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so i think that maybe he's like oh the reality of where the rubber meets the road for me isn't what

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it is online and so maybe i don't have the power that i thought i did and maybe there is something

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to what alex is saying there's an ultimate lesson that alex has to teach nick yeah and i hope he

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does not find out what it is yeah but the ultimate lesson is this all right on your show say whatever

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the fuck you want no one's watching yeah when you're not on your show you fucking say what

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they need you to say yeah to get whomever needs to come to your stream who will come to your stream

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and then you'll get five of them that stick around but when you're not on your show you play the game

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and i think that more than other times that nick has been on with alex i feel like he is getting

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that lesson a little bit more than than normal yep and so that's you know troubling because it's

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the one that alex has the most power with you know like alex can go on joe rogan and they say shit but

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they don't go like hey you literally believe that you're a psychic fighting god's battle against

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literal christian because you wake up in the middle of the night and know what time it is

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sometimes like that's that's disqualifying yeah that's the supreme court is broken right right

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no but alex's power on that front is actually two-pronged yeah because there is the like know

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when the situation is like that rogan thing where you could say whatever you need to say to be

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interesting and get people over to you yeah and then the second is when you're in a hostile

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environment know that it doesn't matter and get your plugs in right right just yell infowars.com

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on piers morgan's show and and you know listen nick your whole hearts and minds stick get it

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out of here just yell your plugs and get back to work maximize what you can get out of situations

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yep and that is your ultimate truth maximize what you can get out of situations as your own damn

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dan that's fucking that's dark yeah that is a dark true thing well that's what happens when

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you listen to a sort of boring interview eventually you get to the secret heart of the

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universe yeah so anyway um we had um a guy from sydney who's living in the russian consulate and

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the stars are out still no stallone amazing here's what we've got this is the type of show

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that you just gotta wind down you can't just close this shit down no no no this was gone tomorrow

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chaos oh fucking can't what's owen gonna do right he's gonna have to interview stallone that's no

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good oh god so we'll be back uh we'll see what happens with that debate uh but until then we

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have a website indeed we do it's knowledgeright.com yep we'll be back but until then i'm neo i'm leo

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i'm dzx clark i am the mysterious professor oh yeah yeah and now here comes the sex robots

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andy and kansas you're on the air thanks for holding

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hello alex i'm a first time caller i'm a huge fan i love your work i love you