Transcript/769: December 17, 2003

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Alex Jones (00:00:04.000)

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Unknown Speaker (00:00:29.000)

Dan and Jordan knowledge fight

Alex Jones (00:00:35.000)

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Dan (00:00:59.000)

Hey everybody, welcome back. I'm Jordan. We're a couple dudes like sit around worship at the altar of saline and talk a little bit about Alex Jones.

Jordan (00:01:07.000)

Oh, indeed. We

Dan (00:01:08.000)

are Dan Jordan. Damn, Jordan.

Jordan (00:01:10.000)

I have a quick question for you today sir.

Dan (00:01:12.000)

Well, I shall get to that as soon as you let me know what that question is

Jordan (00:01:16.000)

all right that question let's pray about today my

Dan (00:01:19.000)

bright spot today Jordan is a possible bright spot possible Oh, I wanted to I wanted to add a little bit of danger proceeding All right. I wanted to add a little bit of chaos but of what's it going to be right right right break either direction. I got myself flavor of Red Bull. This is the Winter edition. Winter is coming to my mouth shortly with a fig

Jordan (00:01:44.000)

Apple do disgusting we'll

Dan (00:01:47.000)

see I love Apple Apple juice in a Red Bull format could be good possible but fig is scared fig is dicey Yes. And so I am going to crack this open. I mean outside of a Newton scenario I don't even like it in a Newton you don't like it in a Newton no

Jordan (00:02:04.000)

I you know what I didn't like it as a Newton when I was a kid and I haven't had them since so I probably don't like it as a new neither

Dan (00:02:10.000)

I remember there were like other fruits Newton's oh they made they made other Newton's like strawberry Newton I think

Jordan (00:02:19.000)

I thought it was punishable bah punishable by law

Dan (00:02:28.000)

my bracelet is

Jordan (00:02:31.000)

never gonna change well you brought it out and now it's all there. Alright, so

Dan (00:02:37.000)

I'm gonna try this without giving it a smile because okay, like that could

Jordan (00:02:41.000)

smell could could really mess Yep. Ladies and gentlemen. He's taken a sip huh? he smacked his lips a little bit.

Dan (00:02:49.000)

I don't know. It's fine.

Jordan (00:02:53.000)

neutral spot wow it's underwhelming we have to restart this whole fucking episode.

Dan (00:03:01.000)

Well, kind of kind of a anticlimactic bright spot but hey, this is fine. What's your bright spot? I

Jordan (00:03:09.000)

have no strong feelings one way or the other my bright spot is

Dan (00:03:15.000)

bright was the potential the potential Okay there you go. How good it could have been or how bad it could have been right the potential experiences where you were looking absolutely right could have been like this is my new favorite drink or conversely I could have done a spit take would have been so disgusting. Ultimately, that is exciting. Ultimately what in reality

Jordan (00:03:34.000)

is that? We should that's a lesson we should all take more joy out of the potential

Dan (00:03:41.000)

right you know it's about the journey right? Not the mediocre destination at the car dealership is more exciting than owning the car

Jordan (00:03:48.000)

don't buy a car

Dan (00:03:49.000)

No. What's your what's your bright spot your car?

Jordan (00:03:54.000)

It is what is tomorrow to well when you hear this today, Fire Emblem engage will be out.

Dan (00:04:01.000)

Oh yeah, that's true. It will be the 20 Yeah hype.

Jordan (00:04:05.000)

I am also hype I think I mean I think I'm gonna play it a little bit of streaming. I don't want to do it on the on the internet.

Dan (00:04:10.000)

All right. I'll do is it something you can play remotely? I have no idea like cuz if so we could play it together. I'll be honest a stream. Yeah. No, be cool shit. Yeah, I am. I have tried to censor the last time I announced that I was hype. Yes about this. I've tried to not like delve too much into people like doing pre reviews and stuff because I feel like a lot of people have a lot of strong opinions. And I may not agree with all of them, and maybe they'll bummed me out. That's kind of how strong opinions work. Yeah. So what what are you feeling about that? I don't want to hijack your brightspot

Jordan (00:04:43.000)

Here's my feeling. I have not read a lot of reviews. But if you if you're just on the internet, eventually you'll see a headline that's like lit fire emblem again. But you know, like that kind of thing. And the general view that I've gotten is that if you were a huge fan of all the like going around and talking to your people doing the whole thing and then doing a support conversation and doing another thing and then doing another thing until they finally were like, I like you. You know,

Dan (00:05:10.000)

was that the dating sim? Yes back yeah,

Jordan (00:05:13.000)

you're gonna be a little bit disappointed.

Dan (00:05:15.000)

That's fine because I think there was might be have been too much of the way to I liked it I liked but sometimes I was getting to a point where like some of these cutscenes need to be tightened a little boy, I don't care about these characters. Yeah. Now granted the characters I do, like, Give me all those

Jordan (00:05:34.000)

boring. Yeah. So it sounds like they've cut a lot of that down. And then all the stuff that I liked about the battles and the technical tactical stuff, they've streamlined it and kind of tightened it up so it's more enjoyable night. So that's that to me. That's what I wanted to hear.

Dan (00:05:50.000)

All right. Yeah. Well, I'm I'm excited to give it a shot down, I guess. I mean, like, it'll be out tomorrow. So you know what time it's gonna come out.

Jordan (00:06:02.000)

Tonight. Probably the beginning of the day. I'm gonna need

Dan (00:06:06.000)

six more of these quick apple. Central now I'll be I'll be a bit. Robert. So exciting. Jordan. Today, we have an episode to go over. Here's the sitch that we find ourselves in? Yeah. So Alex in the present day kind of sucks. I don't really care all that much. Simultaneously, very exciting. Sold out the second show in Milwaukee. Wild very fast, wild. Wild. I don't I don't get it. I appreciate you all like our show and welcome. But I don't understand.

Jordan (00:06:42.000)

The last live show we did at Austin. The first thing I said was like, Why are all of you here? Is this show enjoyable to listen to?

Dan (00:06:51.000)

Hey, we're gonna talk about horrible thing. Yeah. All right. You do bad, but I appreciate it. And I'm very, I'm excited about it. Honestly. Yeah, it'll be fun. But I've been given a ton of thought to like, what are those episodes going to be? You know, because first of all, one episode in Milwaukee that we're doing live. That already is like, what? What do we do? Yeah. And now we have to

Jordan (00:07:16.000)

Yeah, why did we do that? Oh, people wanted it. Yeah. And

Dan (00:07:20.000)

so like trying to do some of the pre prep work on that has taken up a bit of my time. And you know, there, it's still an ongoing concern, of course, trying to trying to figure out like, what do you cover to cover the beard you cover? I mean, I think I've already made that joke. What I'm thinking about the bucks, here's

Jordan (00:07:38.000)

the problem, because here's what's almost certainly going to happen. We are going to have something fully prepared for the Thursday episode. And then you're going to find something that happened that day, and it's going to be a scramble now then Lord knows what's going to happen on Thursday. Now, that's

Dan (00:07:54.000)

not happening. What's gonna be in advance? I figured out one, the Thursday show I have figured out okay, so that actually, I've been working on what that is. But the Friday show is very much still up in the air. Still got to figure that out. And we'll figure that out. It's a tie. But anyway, because of a lot of juggling. I decided to take a bath in 2003. Good. So we're, we're in the past. Today, we're gonna be talking about December 17 2003. Alex is still in the aftermath of the Saddam capture. Right. And I don't think we don't get any evolution on that note. No more beard. No, I spear se. But we do get some other stuff. That's kind of weird. Interesting. And we'll get down to business on that. But first, let's say hello, Jordan to some new Oh, that's great idea. So first Duke. So Roland tuk and stick Emporium. He's the policy wonk with the quality box to your head. Thank you so much. You're on our policy walk.

Alex Jones (00:08:57.000)

I'm a policy wonk. Thank you very much.

Dan (00:08:58.000)

Thank you, Duke. Sir Roland, next guy in incognito globalist infiltration specialist. Thank you so much. You are now a policy wonk.

Alex Jones (00:09:07.000)

I'm a policy wonk.

Jordan (00:09:08.000)

Thank you very much.

Dan (00:09:09.000)

Thank you and Saddam Hussein seventh body doubles dreamy, creamy milk mustache. Thank you so much. You're now policy Wong.

Alex Jones (00:09:15.000)

I'm a policy wonk.

Jordan (00:09:16.000)

Thank you very much.

Dan (00:09:17.000)

I thought I had got more names, but I only got three. Oh, here we are.

Jordan (00:09:21.000)

Hey, you got a special three name episode? Yep.

Dan (00:09:24.000)

So we're gonna start here. This is where Alex is reading off some of these headlines and where we're at on December 17.

Alex Jones (00:09:31.000)

And Bush was scheduled to announce a trip back to the moon today. Where he's taking the Bill of Rights and Constitution that'd be on this moon mission. He will bring it back. Count. States are moving ahead with legalization of using baby parts and cloning operations. Patriot Act Two was signed people are calling my office about this. I have the Associated Press article here in front of me I'll go back over it Today, we'll Yeah, and much, much more.

Dan (00:10:04.000)

Yeah, so Bush is gonna go get the bill of rights from the moon.

Jordan (00:10:07.000)

Okay, now I know that sounded like a lot. I know that sounded like an insult, but uh, he is just written national treasure for and it is going to be blockbuster shit.

Dan (00:10:18.000)

I think we'd still need three first. Oh, they

Jordan (00:10:20.000)

got a direct 20 I think they got a direct to DVD three.

Dan (00:10:23.000)

It doesn't count. That's not Canada. Okay, fine. There's a series I think there was a series. There might have been like a Disney Plus series. Yeah.

Jordan (00:10:29.000)

Well, they didn't find the Declaration of Independence on the goddamn Moon

Dan (00:10:33.000)

did that. No, they didn't. And they should they.

Jordan (00:10:37.000)

I'm with you.

Dan (00:10:39.000)

So Alex has been talking about this, the fact that Patriot Act Two has been signed. And I noticed as this episode was beginning, I've heard him say that a bit, but I've never heard him specify what he means.

Jordan (00:10:52.000)

Right. So now he's got the AP article in front of them. So we know for a fact that the Patriot Act Two has been signed as decided by the AP themselves.

Dan (00:11:01.000)

Well, I was interested in figuring out if there were going to be any specifics on this, right. So I was like, All right, I'm in Yeah, I'll listen for sure. So there's a lot of shit talk going around about people having advanced knowledge that Saddam was going to be kept right robber and get this after Saddam gets captured. That's when they're going to find the weapons of mass destruction, because of course they are. They're going to torture him and find where they were. When really, they're just going to fake something or whatever, then Bush is going to need to get reelected in 2004. Right. What is he going to do? He's gonna bring up Bin Laden, who's on ice? Sure. They'd say got Bin Laden on ice. Yeah, and Alex knows this because they've got a nice chill Bin Laden, and Alex knows this because a drunk guy told him Oh, this is Steve pathetic. But also Alex's drunk impression is awesome.

Alex Jones (00:11:51.000)

About Oh, it was almost two years ago now. I was told by someone who was on board Air Force One. And this was on the record. I've talked about it a couple dozen times on air. And I said, I don't know if it's accurate, and they may have been giving me this information. But I was told because there's a lot of people in the Bush administration that live right here in Austin. And this individual told several people after they had been imbibing in some adult beverages at a party. That new locks are at McFarland. Oh, far election, bin Laden,

Jordan (00:12:33.000)

Z drunk in a Twilight Zone episode

Alex Jones (00:12:35.000)

kidney failure, and they got a deal was family. Paul Raleigh and mount they got him frozen. And they're gonna roll him out right before the election.

Jordan (00:12:51.000)

So they do have frozen.

Alex Jones (00:12:52.000)

So again, that's not the type of news I even like to cover on air. I don't know if it's true. shrunk gray bleach the type of stuff that's not good for your health and no, but a lot of people know it.

Dan (00:13:03.000)

Everyone knows it. I don't want to talk about this, because I don't know that it's true. But everyone knows. Guys on ice. I like to hiccup. It's good. It's just good.

Jordan (00:13:12.000)

All right, today. Good Morning, America. We have a drunk guy who last night told me that bin Laden is frozen down. I think he's been frozen for about six

Dan (00:13:23.000)

years. Now. I do think this is at least related to Steve because early 2002 is when Steve was first on Alex's show. And so that would be about two years before this.

Jordan (00:13:36.000)

Right? Right. About two years ago. Party. Everybody's drinking. Steve Pjanic 68 years old. drunk off his ass. Make it up bullshit about Bin Laden. That sounds right. That sounds like his actual, like natural habitat. He's supposed to be shit faced at a party telling you insane things and everybody's gathered around like, what do you gonna say next?

Dan (00:14:02.000)

Yeah, so so. It's either Steve, I think or maybe like, somewhat related to Steve. Yeah, I don't know. Anyway, drunk compression on point. It's true. Pretty solid. We'll

Jordan (00:14:12.000)

give them that.

Dan (00:14:13.000)

So as is the case in 2003 pretty regularly. Alex does a lot of calls. Takes takes a number of calls. Sure. This guy's got an opinion.

Alex Jones (00:14:23.000)

Barney, first caller of the day from Maryland. You're on the air. Go ahead. Yeah, Alex.

Caller 1 (769) (00:14:29.000)

I would still say we shouldn't turn Saddam Hussein loose and try booze for murder and for being a traitor violate the constitution.

Alex Jones (00:14:40.000)

How has Bush violated the Constitution? illegal war

Dan (00:14:44.000)

Fair enough? Yeah. What about the turning Saddam loose?

Jordan (00:14:48.000)

Here's the thing. I appreciate what half of his sentiment I don't understand what turning him loose quite happy like let him go or like, set him free youtube. to wreak havoc upon this world of our

Dan (00:15:01.000)

Yeah, put him send him on the attack.

Jordan (00:15:06.000)

Is that what we have released? Really?

Dan (00:15:08.000)

Thomas Saddam cracking? A little Well, boy,

Jordan (00:15:12.000)

that's that's a hot take. I will say that

Dan (00:15:14.000)

unfortunately he doesn't develop a theme at all and I'm not entirely sure he doesn't have a whole lot more to say other than let him free up Bush,

Jordan (00:15:23.000)

you can do both. We can have them both locked up. I don't think either of them are a good guy.

Dan (00:15:28.000)

So Alex gets another color. And this guy has a bit of a concern about some stuff that he's read about leaked media memos that have to do with like, the the coming flu over the winter. Sure, and such. And so it's interesting, this conversation,

Alex Jones (00:15:49.000)

and Adam was mentioning this website that's put out some pretty good stuff in the past, leaked news memos that purportedly leaked news memos from one of the big broadcast media outlets. One of the big three folks talking about the New World Order activities, discussions of martial law, the capture of Saddam all of it. And now they're talking about weapons of mass destruction to be planted and released here very soon. But going back to Adam, he was mentioning some memos he read about the flu and SARS. And I had not read those, I'm not sure where he's going with this. But let's find out, Adam, go ahead.

Caller 2 (769) (00:16:31.000)

Just quite simply, one of the things that lends credibility to the work that you do, and individuals such as myself, is the fact that you do come across things, and then they come to fruition in the future. Again, I came across that site and doing some research on the contrived nature of the media. Back in October, on December 2, you read this again, it was I don't even remember the name of the newspaper, but a rate it was, you know that this pandemic is coming, this epidemic of flu is coming. And again, having read

Alex Jones (00:17:04.000)

was The New York Times saying they're gonna have quarantines digital badges, round up camps in every major city in small town. That was the New York Times two, Monday's ago.

Caller 2 (769) (00:17:14.000)

And again, so that clicks in my head that, you know, hey, I read this a month ago that apparently these leaked memos, again, was telling individual news directors, you know, to lay off this, it's now we have monkey pox, that type of thing. We're gonna go on to something else. And we'll get back to this, essentially, we'll get back to this when it fires back up in the winter.

Dan (00:17:34.000)

So this is all nonsense, but it does illustrate the constant and ever present preoccupation Alex and his community have with predicting that every public health warning is secretly an attempt to bring in martial law, stuff with COVID is no different. Really, it just went differently in the world. Yeah. And he adjusted differently.

Jordan (00:17:52.000)

It is it is very much a case study, and how, let's say different styles of leadership, during different events can have different results. Sure, you know, like all of these other situations where public health experts are saying, you know, we need to be careful about a flu during the winter, because that is pretty much how it works. This is a regular thing that we know about. Here's some other things, here are the ways that we can handle those. Here's all this stuff. Or you can have somebody like Jared Kushner go, it's probably going to affect mostly city, so fuck them.

Dan (00:18:26.000)

These are the different these are options a little different. So the only reason I included this clip is because the color is citing a website when he's talking about these leaked memos, or purported leaked memos because there's no proof they're real. Obviously. It's a website called TBR news.org. TBR stands for the Barnes review, which is a deeply anti semitic and Holocaust denying publication owned by Willis carto. Hey, great. The publication is named after Harry Elmer Barnes and old school Holocaust denier, and the content that they put out is straight trash. It strains credulity for me to believe that someone could get their news from TBR news.org and not be aware of the outlets, editorial beliefs. Here are some of the headlines from that website around this time. Quote, news of candidate's Jewish roots adds another flavor to campaign quotes how the Holocaust Industry stole the Swiss monies a shockingly high number of books that they have on their reading list so they do have a reading list. Oh, that's good. That's good. Bunch of them are about Hitler and not not negative coverage or not like maybe a little bit of positive coverage of Hitler.

Jordan (00:19:33.000)

I have a strong and resounding good work Barnes to say on this one.

Dan (00:19:39.000)

Anyway, it's a really fucked up outlet for this caller to be citing and for Alex to clearly be familiar with and be saying like they have put out good stuff in the past. It gets worse though, because earlier in this exact episode, prior to this caller arriving, Alex reported on something from TBR news

Alex Jones (00:19:57.000)

leaked news network memo stage Discovery of weapons of mass destruction will follow Saddam arrest TBR news and they've been releasing these memos now for about a year and they've turned out to be very accurate.

Dan (00:20:08.000)

Even back in 2003 These people were getting their news from people who are Nazi adjacent.

Jordan (00:20:14.000)

Dammit. God dammit. Yeah,

Dan (00:20:17.000)

how it's wild.

Jordan (00:20:19.000)

It's all there. How did we not all man, I don't remember quite realizing how much of a fucking real pandemic anti semitism was even back then in my in Milan, and

Dan (00:20:33.000)

a lot of it was under the surface. A lot of it was, you know, or even coming from folks that it's like, well, yeah, it's ugly. And there's this ugliness but it's not really going anywhere. Or there's a there was the possibly delusional No, and you can sense of like a, this is just this, this pocket will always exist. It'll never grow. You can't get rid of it. And maybe that was naive.

Jordan (00:21:02.000)

I mean, you know, we I remember how funny I thought it was when Pat Robertson and his ilk were like, well, if you didn't have gay people, we wouldn't have hurricanes. You know, I thought it was funny that somebody could be that insane. What I what I didn't realize is that that was actually most of the country. And we would eventually all be that.

Dan (00:21:24.000)

So one thing that's interesting is this caller seems to have a little bit more of a critical eye. Jenna, Alex, interesting.

Caller 2 (769) (00:21:31.000)

My question to you is, is that, you know, what do you know about this organization? Because one of the primary concerns is the fact that, as is the case with a number of individuals out there, they come out with information yet behind the scenes, they have things if the only thing that's on that website, are these leaked memos, aside from the fact that they have a large bookstore, that every single book in there is about Hitler, or fascism, or that type of thing. My question to you is, is it what do you know about this organization? What do you know about

Alex Jones (00:22:06.000)

them and I need to have him on the show because I haven't focused on it very much. I'll focus on what the globalists are doing publicly in the legislation and my information, but I will I will investigate it and try to get them on.

Dan (00:22:18.000)

Yeah, good. Good on this caller for having some curiosity. Bad on Alex for trying to make excuses for why he relies on sources he hasn't vetted in any way to make absurd claims. This caller shouldn't expect too much here. This site is operated by an entity that traces back to Willis carto, who's also the man behind the American Free Press, whose editor was Big Jim Tucker, Alex's main source about Bilderberg and Alex actually explores the Nazi character of this TBR news outlet he risks exposing a much larger reality about the information space that he exists in.

Jordan (00:22:50.000)

Oh shit, I'm a Nazi dammit da fuck

Dan (00:22:53.000)

don't expect him to follow through on this in any way. And if TBR news posts and other completely unverifiable on attributed almost certainly made up leaked news memo, you can bet Alex will report on it and pretend that this call never happened. Yeah. Oh, I'm so shocked to hear once again that this outlet that I'm a big fan of and I keep reporting stuff from also loves Hitler. You know, how how could we possibly get to a point where yay and Nick Fuentes are on Alexandria to talking about how much they love him. Imagine, whoa, such a strange journey

Jordan (00:23:26.000)

in the context of a guy who has said he has read hundreds of books on World War Two,

Dan (00:23:32.000)

probably 100. Mostly that were sold by

Jordan (00:23:36.000)

that's no longer the bragging rights that I think he thinks it is supposed to be. No, no, no, no, no, no, no,

Dan (00:23:44.000)

no, I'm gonna need some author names. So I think that Alex doesn't enjoy this kind of thing from a caller. Yeah, absolutely not. It doesn't look good. No, because it exposes potentially that he's reporting stuff from Nazi outlets. But then even if it doesn't, it exposes that he doesn't know where his information is coming from. And either of these is bad. So he gets a friendly call from a guy who wants resources about 911 stuff. And like for knowledge of 911 proof he wants Alex just to direct him. Where is it on your website? Oh, my God. And I will say I understand where this caller is coming from Sure. Alex's website has always been on navigatable. I think by design. Yeah. And Alex doesn't like this. I think he's getting grumpy smokebox.

Caller 3 (769) (00:24:27.000)

I printed out just that one page of the recap, refer to about 55 sites that you had put on over, over the months of all the evidence of advanced knowledge if, if, if that could be rerun or refer to it and the archives maybe weren't located.

Alex Jones (00:24:44.000)

Well site. It is on the website. Okay. To websites, it's in

Caller 3 (769) (00:24:49.000)

the archives. So now Yes. Okay. But to locate it, is there an easy way to locate it other than visiting every archived website? Is there

Alex Jones (00:24:56.000)

some way of doing every archive website? I

Caller 3 (769) (00:24:58.000)

don't understand. Well, how would I find something like that? Like if I wanted to find those summaries of websites that related to 911, you know, like a summary like when he printed the summary pages, you

Alex Jones (00:25:09.000)

know, I can't remember the exact headline of that article we put together with hyperlinks. But on convenient try to remember that for you and announce it on there. Thanks. Thanks for the call. George. Angus in Alberta, Canada. You're on the air. Go ahead, Angus. Hello, Alex, how

Unknown Speaker (00:25:25.000)

are you today? I'm fine.

Dan (00:25:26.000)

You're not? You're having a bad day?

Jordan (00:25:32.000)

Yeah. Not good at hiding his true emotions. I'm fine.

Dan (00:25:36.000)

Fine. Fine. I think it's also in stark contrast to Angus is very sunny disposition. Review, I'm fine. I'm fine. I don't like being asked specifics.

Jordan (00:25:47.000)

He asked me whether or not what I said was true. And obviously it's not. So I'm fucked.

Dan (00:25:53.000)

If you make if you make these giant claims about like having proved all this stuff about 911 We should probably have it at a very handy, easy, convenient place for people to go ahead and grab it. Yeah, seems like a job one.

Jordan (00:26:09.000)

You know, if you could really prove something like the 911 was an inside job. It would be everywhere. And it would not be coming from Alex.

Dan (00:26:19.000)

Yeah. Yeah. I think I think those that I mean, I'm not just saying this from a naive perspective. I've also looked into a lot of these claims, obviously, but like, yeah, if someone had a like, boom, here it is. Like there's we've proved we've demonstrated this stuff. Yeah, it you can't pretend that like oh, this is just gonna own The only people who the mainstream is brainwashed into thinking crazy. They're crazy. We'll break this stuff. Right right on it would escape that bubble very easily. Right? Yeah. rational people do accept rational proof of things. That's how it works. Just not irrational.

Jordan (00:26:59.000)

The ones that are weird here, we would all be like Yeah, fuck the government. They did 911 If they did 911

Dan (00:27:08.000)

So at this point, I'm like, Hey, speaking of proof, but that Patriot Act Two thing

Jordan (00:27:13.000)

that's got the AP article.

Dan (00:27:15.000)

It's been signed. Alex is saying he's he's gone over it now. He needs to go over it again.

Alex Jones (00:27:22.000)

I have not heard him go over it. And so he brings it back up. All right, we're gonna come back and I'm gonna hit on Patriot Act here because it needs to be recap and we'll go to all these other callers.

Dan (00:27:31.000)

It needs to be recapped it hasn't been kept. It has not been kept. I don't know what this I don't know what's going on.

Jordan (00:27:36.000)

I like the confidence of the we need to recap this because it's it's a great gaslight, like if you're going to gaslight somebody in implying that they don't even remember the first time that you explain to them something that is unexplainable. is such a great move, because you're on the defensive immediately. You're like, wait, maybe I didn't get the

Dan (00:27:59.000)

maybe it wasn't Liz, maybe it's my fault. Yeah. So he does get to it. Okay. And it's disappointing. No,

Alex Jones (00:28:04.000)

but here's Patriot Act to you know, Bush sign this over the weekend. And Ron Paul's comments on HR 2417, known as the intelligence Authorization Act of it appears we're witnessing a stealth enactment of the enormously unpopular legislation. And he goes on to say we need to defeat this legislation that was before it was passed, and Bush signed it. Here's the Associated Press, Bush signs bill extending FBI powers, they can search anything so can the CIA no longer without warrants it just carte blanche, and a bunch and it says most of the bill is secret. But congressmen who have seen it say it's frightening.

Dan (00:28:43.000)

This isn't Patriot Act Two. This is just the House bill that authorizes finances to be allocated to the intelligence community and services within the government share. This is a bill that's introduced and passed literally every year. It wasn't secret and it didn't allow the shit Alex is claiming. Basically what happened here is that Ron Paul talked some shit and called it Patriot Act to right and based on that alone, Alex has decided that that's what it is because he needs an off ramp. He's been warning about this thing that isn't it hasn't happened and it's probably not going to happen at any point. No. And so it's like well, Ron Paul said it's like it so it is it and so now he has demonstrated and fully proven that over the weekend Bush signed Patriot Act Two and here we are Alex's right. Hashtag Alex Jones was right.

Jordan (00:29:27.000)

That is a good dodge. That's a real good dodge.

Dan (00:29:30.000)

I mean, you got to do what you got to do.

Jordan (00:29:32.000)

Yeah, I've all of his dodges which I mean frankly most of them are just him standing there and taking the bullet and then saying like, ma'am fine, and then just continuing to walk you know, this one at least he's dodging with somebody actually called it Patriot Act to some time, you know,

Dan (00:29:49.000)

but I mean, how many fucking things as Ron Paul called other things like it's, he's not a reliable source of characterization flowery

Jordan (00:29:57.000)

language when the time is right. You

Dan (00:29:59.000)

bet. Anyway, we heard a caller, couple episodes back in 2003, who wanted some customer service. His tapes had not arrived

Jordan (00:30:08.000)

the best everything any Bill Cooper tech customer service, any Alex customer service the best. So he

Dan (00:30:14.000)

had he had ordered some tapes. And they had been a while they hadn't arrived called Alex. He calls back in. Oh, because he got his tape team it. It is a great resolution that is customer service omits. It's fantastic. Now, here's why this clip is in here. Alex still gets mad at.

Jordan (00:30:37.000)

You shouldn't be calling in about customers.

Dan (00:30:41.000)

Don't even know what's going on here. Alex makes himself mad when this guy is just saying, Hey, I got a thing. It was resolved. Great. Jay, you're

Alex Jones (00:30:48.000)

on the air. Go ahead.

Caller 4 (769) (00:30:50.000)

Hey, thanks. You bet. I just wanted to say when you when I called last week or week and a half ago, about the videos being laid. And that day you call me back and bam, they're here in like four days. And I've already making copies. And that's really great. When I

Alex Jones (00:31:05.000)

Well, my only comment about that is I have a small staff and everything gets shipped down. Sometimes we get an address wrong or something. And when somebody calls me ask where you know where it goes, I can't help people. Because I'm on air, but I'm glad you got those, sir. And I'm glad you're you're making copies. And anytime anybody has a question. And we try to take the messages off at you know, three times a day and we try to answer it live but it's a it's impossible. It's 512-291-5752 Call my office 512-291-5750. And the phone rings off the hook with the police are taking my children right now. But they're taking my land right now. There's helicopters spraying is right now they had an urban warfare training drill, where they beat people up, help us SWAT teams are right in the schools. They're beating our children up, they put cameras up in my neighborhood helped me call me and it's just millions. I have millions of listeners. I got three employees. I'm pulling my hair out, brother. So what's on your mind?

Jordan (00:32:08.000)

Thanks for the tape,

Dan (00:32:09.000)

I think you should get some like other phone lines, you should get different phone lines for different things. If it's a customer support issue, you shouldn't have a be the same phone number and some weirdo who's calling you about how they're spraying them right now.

Jordan (00:32:22.000)

I mean, maybe even a toll free number might even be nice. Sure.

Dan (00:32:26.000)

Also, the fact that you're getting all of these calls, doesn't mean that all of these things are happening. You have a bunch of callers who are calling in and telling you things that are not true, but are actually just manifestations of the paranoid fantasies that you encourage it. Yeah.

Jordan (00:32:47.000)

Oh, man, I would love to, I would love to take your call and help you with your your issues. So good. But I've got too many calls telling me about things that aren't happening. How could I possibly get to that phone call? I have too

Dan (00:33:01.000)

many intense calls about traumatic, weird things that probably aren't happening.

Jordan (00:33:07.000)

Like, like how he works himself up over it? Yeah. Like it goes from just being like, you know, that's it's good. You know, sometimes we have difficult times and you're like reasonable, that's totally fine. I'm not, I'm not mad? No, it's resolved. Everything's good. And now these people are calling me and everybody's always calling me and there's calls coming from, and from here and everywhere. And now you're calling me my customer service. And anyways.

Dan (00:33:29.000)

Now the reality too, is that the calls that he's getting are only coming in because he's situated himself in the marketplace as the guy who cares about these things. He has to take those calls, because otherwise those people will find somebody else to glom on to who enable their bizarre fantasies about the coming UN troops and FEMA camps and what have

Jordan (00:33:53.000)

you. Yeah, Alex thinks he's complaining about other people, when in reality, he's complaining about himself. Yeah. And then taking it out on other people, which as we all know, seems like healthy and good behavior.

Dan (00:34:03.000)

And it's what he does. Yeah. And it's just the way to treat people. Yeah,

Jordan (00:34:06.000)

just good. You,

Dan (00:34:09.000)

you know, hey, yeah, agreed. Agree. So this is just dumb,

Alex Jones (00:34:15.000)

that you're designing the system to bankrupt the working class and you cannot live and and and, and, and and do I know people with three jobs and they're losing everything, they got to shine the system where unless you're an illegal alien live and tend to a house, you can't survive in this economy. Okay. And for people, you know, depression is when you're out of work, or recessions, when your neighbor is out of work. We're in a massive recession, a depression airy system, folks, and I've seen it with my own eyes. Thanks for the call.

Dan (00:34:48.000)

Yeah. So the the, the Americans and the middle class are being destroyed by design while the illegals living tend to house they're the ones who society is Bill For. Okay, no, they

Jordan (00:35:03.000)

should work to get them a living wage.

Dan (00:35:06.000)

Yeah. Also the the the economy was doing quite well. Oh, yeah. And of 2003 and 2004. It was, there was growth. Yeah, it was not, it was not a depression airy recession

Jordan (00:35:20.000)

wasn't until 2007, that all the credit default swaps kind of got caught out. And then everybody was like, Oh, they're all lying to us. And then after that, we didn't do anything. And now we're never gonna have that happen again, right?

Dan (00:35:32.000)

If Alex were to say something along the lines of like, there's trouble coming down the road four or five years from now, then they'll be like, Oh, that's interesting. But what for him to be presenting it as like this is the current condition is just super inaccurate. For the end of 2003 Magicolor. Like, it's bizarre.

Jordan (00:35:48.000)

I mean, what's wild about it, though, is that if he had predicted that one, what a great like, they're going to tank the economy right before the presidential election in order to influence who wins the vote. And that's exactly what happened. The economy tanked right before the election, and it influenced who won the vote.

Dan (00:36:07.000)

But that's not what he didn't predict that. Oh, well, I'm sure he did. Because he always predicts the summer of rage. And I don't think you predicted that way. But But even the way you're presenting that needs a little bit of a tweak, because you are saying that is what happened. But you also said that they tanked the economy, as opposed to the economy tanked. Yeah, they did. They did to the actions of those people, right, but not necessarily like, Hey, we're going to tank the economy for the explicit purpose of influencing the reverse. That's what Alex would be predicting. Right. We're not saying

Jordan (00:36:41.000)

I am not saying that. I'm saying they tanked the economy insofar as the people who take to the economy did it.

Dan (00:36:47.000)

They did actions lead to it. Yeah. necessarily actions geared towards doing

Jordan (00:36:52.000)

right. Right, right. Like most actual conspiracies of the real kind. It was not about solving anything politically, or doing anything to hurt people. It was about making a shit ton of money, and then it went wrong. And that's how conspiracies actually work.

Dan (00:37:09.000)

A lot of times, yeah. So I don't know if you'd agree with this characterization of George W. Bush. I think yeah, I think you might take one, two or three, maybe four issues. Interesting.

Alex Jones (00:37:20.000)

Now we have loaded phone lines to talk about the economy Patriot Act to being passed quietly last weekend. Shine by Lord Bush, the neocon leader, the gun grabbing open border promoting China worshiping Taiwan hating creature. So what do you got?

Jordan (00:37:37.000)

Um, I think I got five out of that one. Okay, God, he didn't grab gun.

Dan (00:37:42.000)

No, but Alex at this point is still saying that he's going to resign the assault weapons ban, which should happen and then he's gonna take everyone's guns.

Jordan (00:37:49.000)

I'll give him neocon that obviously counts. Sure.

Dan (00:37:52.000)

I don't open borders. No,

Jordan (00:37:55.000)

definitely not. Definitely not. I don't know why he hated did he didn't hate Taiwan.

Dan (00:38:00.000)

No, but at this point, Alex is saying that he's abandoned Taiwan.

Jordan (00:38:03.000)

Taiwan. Yeah.

Dan (00:38:05.000)

That's a big talking point that Alex. Alex cares

Jordan (00:38:07.000)

about Taiwan. You're right. Loves China loves China. That one. I don't think he loved China. I think we were in a serious competition situation.

Dan (00:38:15.000)

Definitely doesn't love China the way that Alex is expressing

Jordan (00:38:18.000)

that's 100% Said. Yeah. And then I think there was one more do you want to hear it again? Yeah. Okay, let's go through that. Let's go through the list. One more time

Alex Jones (00:38:25.000)

loaded phone lines of talking about the economy Patriot Act to being passed quietly last weekend. Sean by Lord Bush, the neocon leader the gun grabbing open border promoting China worshiping Taiwan hating creature

Dan (00:38:41.000)

nothing that's that's what Oh, you gotta finger up.

Jordan (00:38:44.000)

Leader. Okay. He was not the neocon leader by any stretch of the imagination he that's a man who took his orders the way you still title in Title yes, that might be that might be accurate. This This characterization

Dan (00:39:00.000)

is so incredibly off base from reality that I thought I was thinking about it and it's like, well, this is just how you how you do it when you're someone like Alex, because to him, anybody who isn't like a gun absolutist who's out like campaigning with two machine guns, right? They are a gun grabber. Yeah. Anybody who is not as far that side as Alex is a gun grabber, right? Anybody who has any tolerance for immigration, wants open borders. So that is how that translates. So to Alex, it feels like these things are accurate characterizations of this person. And so it's it's not so much a lie as it is a distortion. Sure. I'm a reality warping distortion

Jordan (00:39:51.000)

in a sense, if you allow me immigration, you do want open borders. And so if you allow trade, you have not physically closed off the country, made sure that the borders are covered by walls, and then shoot anybody who steps near the

Dan (00:40:07.000)

right. But politically speaking, the term open borders means free travel for anyone to cross. And that's what he's trying to accuse Bush up. And this is so consistent with Alex that like, the you know, that whole idea of like you can't really talk about things unless you agree with about definitions of things. Yeah, this is where that really is true. Yeah. Because if you tried to have a conversation with Alex about like Bush grabbing guns and stuff, you couldn't possibly because you're just dealing with the term completely differently. Yeah. And I think that extends to like 100% of the things Alex talks about, yes. 100%. I think that exactly. I think that's maybe one of the big reasons why it's almost pointless to like, try and talk to him about any issues, like debating him or debating. No, people like him is just kind of like, it's a fruitless exercise, you just don't agree on reality, right.

Jordan (00:41:03.000)

And that's why that's why one of the most annoying things about it is that it works both ways, except the other side has, apparently has no understanding of that. Like, if that's what you're going to be called, you have permission to go as far left as you fucking want. It doesn't matter if you're going to be called an open borders person, whether you have some immigration or all immigration, or whatever it is, you want to shoot for the fucking moon. It's what they're gonna call you anyways. You might as well be it.

Dan (00:41:31.000)

Well, yeah, I mean, that's, that's something that a lot of people have, you know, kind of wrestled with in the, especially with the Bernie Sanders campaign of the like, is he marketable? Because he's a socialist? Is it possible that this is a detriment? Like, you're gonna call anybody especially Biden a socialist? Call him a communist? Yeah,

Jordan (00:41:48.000)

the only people who are saying that about Bernie are people who already don't want Bernie because he calls himself a socialist,

Dan (00:41:53.000)

or maybe some people who have, like, they're well intentioned, but maybe don't understand that dynamic. If possible. I think that might be some percentage true. So we actually only have one. One more clip here. Ooh, yes. short episode. Today, a lot of boring calls a lot of nonsense, I can see that. And so this is just a clip where we check in on one of the trends and the threads that goes throughout

Jordan (00:42:18.000)

the 2000s. Hussein Hussein kids,

Dan (00:42:21.000)

no, no, still no update on that.

Caller 1 (769) (00:42:24.000)

It's incredible. I mean, one day, they're calling it a brutal regime. And the next day, they're hiring the people from this brutal regime to go out and kill people.

Alex Jones (00:42:33.000)

And they quietly put about two thirds of the bath is back in power. Amazing.

Jordan (00:42:38.000)

What is it going to take? I don't know, what is it going to take? Does he still think the Baptists are in power? Yeah. Are the Baptist 2023? Exactly. I don't even know I've been gaslit. So but

Dan (00:42:50.000)

the first order of the Coalition Provisional Authority was literally quote, D bath of occasion of Iraqi society. Yeah, this was a gigantic priority of the US led government. And it was a very flawed policy. I understand that I may be bringing this up a bunch as we go through this timeframe. But I think it's important to recognize that in addition to all the many instances of things that Alex is wrong about, there are also narratives like this, that he has just constructed reality to sell his audience that are the inverse of the real world. Yeah, he's getting mad about the CPA, putting the Baptist back into power. So he should conceivably be glad to hear that this is not in fact, happen at all. But here's the problem. I think this goes a long way towards clearing up why Alex is so insistent on this false reality here, Alex is trapped. Imagine that he acknowledges the real world and de bath suffocation. He needs to have an angle on it and nothing works. Alex isn't equipped to express opposition to the bath suffocation and has already told the audience repeatedly that Saddam and his party are essentially globalist CIA shield as true supporting deep bath applications is even worse, since the architects of that plan are the very people he spends all day on air decrying his secret Trotskyites. Yet people like Donald Rumsfeld and Paul Wolfowitz, Alex can't be on the same page as them is only real option is to pretend it's all fake, which is what he's done by constructing the illusion that two thirds of the bath party members are being put into power in December 2003. In some ways, Alex is lazy and stupid, but sometimes he's doing the only thing he can within the confines he's restricted himself to thanks to his laziness and stupidity. Yeah, man, I don't even know if I think that that's a conscious process or anything, right. But I'm looking at this and like, it does make sense that those angles are just roads that are blocked, right, there isn't any way to proceed forward on those roads. Whereas this one, you can go down it it's a dumb road, right? It's not real.

Jordan (00:44:50.000)

Yeah. I mean, you can't, you can't use a real like Alex can't have a real complaint about debate. You can't be like, Okay, well, listen, this doesn't make sense. You're going You piss off a lot of people and put them out of jobs simultaneously. And you're gonna let it be overseen by a racist Bull Run. That's not a good idea. Alex can't say that. Obviously. That would be that would be too real.

Dan (00:45:13.000)

Yeah, he. He's in a bind. Yeah, man. He's way behind. What

Jordan (00:45:17.000)

a terrible idea that we're gonna make a deal. Yeah, god damn it, Dan.

Dan (00:45:21.000)

Well, I mean, look, it's a short episode.

Jordan (00:45:23.000)

Yep. I could look for so to steal. No.

Dan (00:45:31.000)

I was thinking I was thinking I could recite some wills.

Jordan (00:45:35.000)

Listen, this is not going to become a segment on the show. This is not having our new bid 2023 Absolutely not

Dan (00:45:47.000)

call him Mr. This is not our blackjack. The good guys dressed in black. Remember? Just the case wherever face to face and make contact bases. We're padding things out. Yeah. I don't remember the rest of the lyrics to my blog. Anyway. Yeah, a shorter episode today, but it is what it is. It is. Got got a lot of plates. I'm spinning right now. So hopefully, hopefully we'll be Oh, get this What should I know? Should I teach this? Maybe? Obviously, you should teach this. I just got my hands on. More Rob. Do deposition. Oh, shit. So there may be some more deep positions on all these plates. I got five shows. We got Rob do depositions. We got other things. Man, Man, you are a busy fella. Yeah, yeah. But it's exciting. And I guess it'll cut into my ability to play Fire Emblem now. We'll see. We'll make do anything can happen. Anyway. Jordan. We'll be back. Indeed. But we have a website. We do have a website. It's I'll try.com Yep. We're also on Twitter. We are

Jordan (00:46:48.000)

on Twitter. It's acknowledged underscore fights. Yeah,

Dan (00:46:51.000)

you know, we'll be back. But until then, I'm Neo. I'm Leo. I'm DCX Clark, but I'm also Dan, and I'm a little bit concerned about Alex's he doesn't get to travel enough. Thank you, Dan.

Alex Jones (00:47:03.000)

Thank you. Thank you for your concern and that offer. I do want to come to Tennessee. I do want to go to Rhode Island. I do want to go to Arkansas. I do want to go to California. And now here comes the Sex Robot. Andy in Kansas, you're on the air. Thanks for holding. Well, Alex, I'm a first time caller. I'm a huge fan. I love your work. I love you