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Alex Jones (00:00:04.000)

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Dan (00:00:59.000)

Hey, everybody, welcome back to knowledge, right. I'm Dan.

Jordan (00:01:02.000)

I'm Jordan.

Dan (00:01:02.000)

We're dudes like sit around worship at the altar of saline and talk a little bit about Alex Jones.

Jordan (00:01:07.000)

Oh, indeed. We are Dan Jordan. Damn, Jordan, quick question for you, buddy. What's up? What's your blind spot today?

Dan (00:01:16.000)

I feel like we got a little lag going here that wasn't there. Before we started recording.

Jordan (00:01:21.000)

It was not there at all about two and a half seconds ago. And now I feel it.

Dan (00:01:26.000)

This is credibly disorienting, but I will make the best of it. So my bright spot today is not that we are recording remotely. Because I got a little bit of a sickness. True. I have come down with a bad case of loving new wound. No, I don't know what it is. But I took a COVID test. And it's not that so. Right. I don't know. I was you know,

Jordan (00:01:51.000)

we're still recording remotely because, you know, could be any number of different things. It is wiser now, in this day and age to be smart about things like this, you

Dan (00:02:01.000)

know, sure, sure. I'm put I hit the button. And the blast doors came down studio. And I'm locked in. But my bright spot actually is the it happened before I fell fell ill. And that is that I was taking some a couple bags of buttons, package packages of buttons to the mailbox down the street, because I can't just leave them in my my apartment that wouldn't pick them up. So I

Jordan (00:02:33.000)

left the window and you expect the birds to take them where they need to go.

Dan (00:02:37.000)

It would be nice if I had carrier pigeons, so take things to Scotland. I was on my way down there. And I saw a mail truck. And so I walked up to it. And I asked the guy like, Hey, I'm about to take these down to this mailbox anyway. You could just take them from me. It was like of course. No, it was just a really Yeah, it was just a little thing. But it was so nice. He was he was so positive this mail carrier. And like, I don't know, it really brightened my my spirits.

Jordan (00:03:07.000)

You know, I mean, that's, that's so cool. Because part of me honestly expects that response to that to be like, No, it's a legal

Dan (00:03:14.000)

right, right. Or there's a policy that I

Jordan (00:03:17.000)

can't break. There's some reason where it's like, I can't accept this by hand. There's, you know, God, any number of reasons, right? Yeah, we

Dan (00:03:25.000)

can't have definitive trail of custody or chain of custody. It has to go into the box at some point. Yes. But yeah, that was really cool. I like that. I appreciate that. Yeah, that's great. How about you? What's your bright spot?

Jordan (00:03:39.000)

My bright spot, it's kind of like a it's kind of more like a twilight spot. So to some extent, like, my bright spot is the World Cup. Fire was right. And it was a day. I mean, it I couldn't do it justice to describe what happened with 10,000 words. It's everybody's already describing it as the greatest World Cup final that's ever existed, right? Sure. You know, I cry, right? I mean, it's what it really was astonishing to watch. But on the other hand, it made me think of like the pyramids. Do you know what I mean? Because we

Dan (00:04:16.000)

like in Egypt and other countries do their pyramids, the

Jordan (00:04:20.000)

ancient pyramids, it made me think about how we still go see them. And what they are is really monuments to what you can build with slavery and blood. You know,

Dan (00:04:33.000)

that kind of things in perspective, because I actually heard from a guy that they were used to store grain.

Jordan (00:04:38.000)

That's possible. He was a dump warehouse. I mean, aliens have to keep their grain somewhere and it was at the time. But yeah, it is it is this World Cup is one of the most amazing things I've ever seen. And it's also a testament to what can be built with blood and slavery. So it's a terrible thing, and an amazing French

Dan (00:04:59.000)

origin. Tinian soccer teams were built on blood and slavery.

Jordan (00:05:03.000)

No, but the arena was the Whoa, I

Dan (00:05:07.000)

see. I forgot I forgot that. It was in Qatar. And yeah, is there right?

Jordan (00:05:12.000)

Hey, Cassie was

Dan (00:05:15.000)

That's my other brightspot This Elon Musk is doing some some great things at Twitter. Maybe

Jordan (00:05:21.000)

that's part of why a bed made me think of the pyramids. What are these awful billionaires but modern day Pharaohs right? Yeah, sure. Terrifying. Yeah.

Dan (00:05:30.000)

So fantastic. So Jordan, today we have an episode to go over, even though I have fallen ill. And look, the mill, the podcast mill can't be closed just because the foreman is closed or rain

Jordan (00:05:48.000)

nor sleet or sickness.

Dan (00:05:52.000)

Right? I would take the day off. But that mailman really inspired me. There's nothing you could do. No, no. So but because my voice may not hold out. We may have a little bit of a shorter episode today. We're gonna be back in 2003 talking about December 8 2003. Good idea. And I think even other you know, without that I still probably might have put Alex in his timeout spot for bad behavior. Even even if I wasn't ill. But today yeah, this episode is a lot of a lot of calls. He calls that's fun, call heavy. And unfortunately, I am a witch. And when I say that, I would put him on timeout. It would work against me because of what ends up happening in some of these calls.

Jordan (00:06:47.000)

So I got what is this the episode where common reveals he's an anti Semite.

Dan (00:06:52.000)

In less common goes by Greg in New Mexico or whatever.

Jordan (00:07:00.000)

Be get released because I feel like it was right around this time. Was he on a promotional tour?

Dan (00:07:06.000)

I don't believe that common is backpack in the info war studio. All right. He these collars. Terrible. So we'll get down to business on that. But before we do, let's take a little moment. Say hello to some new walks.

Jordan (00:07:22.000)

Oh, that's great idea. So first,

Dan (00:07:24.000)

I set my goals. But before I set my house on fire, thank you so much. You are now a policy wonk.

Alex Jones (00:07:29.000)

I'm a policy wonk,

Unknown Speaker (00:07:30.000)

thank you very much.

Dan (00:07:32.000)

Next, I blame Robert Evans. Thank you so much. You are now ballsy. Well,

Alex Jones (00:07:36.000)

I'm a policy wonk.

Jordan (00:07:37.000)

Thank you very much.

Dan (00:07:39.000)

Next, none of this is real Ambassador Squatch is second favorite podcasts. Thank you so much. You are now policy wonk.

Alex Jones (00:07:44.000)

I'm a policy wonk.

Jordan (00:07:46.000)

Thank you very much.

Dan (00:07:48.000)

Next Alex Jones Can Eat my ass. Thank you so much. You are now policy walk.

Alex Jones (00:07:52.000)

I'm a policy wonk.

Jordan (00:07:54.000)

Thank you very much.

Dan (00:07:56.000)

And curb your existential isms missing hoodie is a false flag also, my 401k isn't doing so well of late bro. Thank you so much for now policy wonk.

Alex Jones (00:08:05.000)

I'm a policy wonk, thank

Jordan (00:08:06.000)

you very much.

Dan (00:08:07.000)

And we get to take a crack at the mix Jordan so I this person told me to read this as the symbols exist. I think it's some kind of a coding joke. Oh, I'm not entirely sure. So maybe this is maybe the robots will find this real funny.

Jordan (00:08:23.000)

All right. All right. It could be word Wally.

Dan (00:08:25.000)

So tech flex and Max with us. Apostrophe, close parenthesis, semicolon drop table. technocrat semicolon dash dash. Thank you so much. You are now a technocrat.

Alex Jones (00:08:39.000)

I'm a policy wonk or donkey I'm telling you brilliant someone someone sodomized sent me a bucket of poop daddy sharp. Jar Jar Binks has a Caribbean black action. He's a loser. Little little Katie baby. I don't want to hate black people. I renounced Jesus Christ.

Jordan (00:08:59.000)

Thank you very much.

Dan (00:09:03.000)

I hope that wasn't some sort of a missile launch code or something that I have just

Jordan (00:09:08.000)

you drew something horrifying and ASCII?

Dan (00:09:12.000)

Who knows? So Jordan Today we start off and here's the vibe that Alex is putting out into the universe, and it's a vibe that it's a Monday man does a Monday show and it's a real Monday as vibe.

Alex Jones (00:09:23.000)

It's already another Monday a big fat week spanning out before us. It is the eighth of December 2003

Dan (00:09:31.000)

has got a big fat week. Big

Jordan (00:09:35.000)

Fat week.

Dan (00:09:36.000)

That's whatever that's what I say whenever it's Monday. Oh, yes fat.

Jordan (00:09:39.000)

Well, I mean, what's your what's your forgetting is this again we're back into those three this is pH at this is prime pH at time. So whenever people say it was a big fat week, you know what it means?

Dan (00:09:51.000)

Well, I mean, like in the last year, I would hear Alex constantly say that we have a thick with two C's we coming up So we get to talking about some actual stuff pretty quickly. Like I said, Alex takes calls the pretty consistently throughout the show. And as a testament to that here is a second clip is a color already a call? Oh, ready a color. And this color is a guy who works in law enforcement, right? Oh, and he claims I believe that this is actually probably true. He claims that he works with Chuck Norris, because Chuck Norris is like a deputized honorary police officer of some kind.

Jordan (00:10:39.000)

Wait, wait, I thought that was Steven Segal or is that were they both deputies?

Dan (00:10:45.000)

I think a lot of them might have dabbled wasn't Shaq Deputy Sheriff honorary sheriff.

Jordan (00:10:52.000)

I've never thought this before. But thank God Bruce Lee is dead. So we didn't find out that he's a cop in New Orleans or suicide or

Dan (00:10:59.000)

honorary CIA for a while. That would be great. So anyway, here's this caller talking about Chuck Norris. And we learned something unfortunate about this caller and probably about Chuck Norris.

Caller 1 (758) (00:11:11.000)

One of my officers I had a reserve force IT department I worked at and one of my officers was Chuck Norris jokes a big a really a good guy, but he's a big question border and big guy. But I'm sending your videos by the way. He's uh, but very smart. And and we were we were having a discussion. A couple of years ago, he had found one of his shows was a Christmas show. And he was really having some trouble with CBS. And I said, What's the deal? And he said, they'd only dimension baby Jesus. And I said, why? And he said, Well, why do you think the Jewish influence is really, really strong? I'm not at all. I'm not anti any.

Alex Jones (00:12:01.000)

But it's no, I mean, certainly, but it's wrong for those executives who obviously don't like Christianity, too. Try to mold things. And that's been on the record.

Dan (00:12:11.000)

Yeah. So Chuck Norris mentioned the baby Jesus because of the Jewish influence on the media. And Alex has a disappointing reaction to that. Caller.

Dan (00:12:27.000)

Yeah, I was just listening to this and like, right out of the gate, I'm like, What the fuck is

Dan (00:12:35.000)

like, I know that. I know that even in like, other periods of 2003 that we've gone back to there have been like undertones. And obviously there's, you know, some anti semitic conversation going on. Sure. Sure. bigoted stuff of various stripes. But like going back and just being like, well, this is overt. It's just it's pretty overt. And some of these episodes am right in your face.

Jordan (00:12:59.000)

Yeah, I mean, you know, there's a part of it that makes me think one of the reasons that we're kind of unused to it right now is because, I guess 20 years ago, they just didn't feel the need to speak it out loud to each other, because their their anti semitism was never under threat. You know, now that people are paying attention to it, then it's now it's time to start going. Absolutely crazy, but it was always there. It was always there. You know?

Dan (00:13:27.000)

Yeah, yeah. It'll be more there as this episode goes along. This color is not not an anomaly, let's say on this episode.

Jordan (00:13:37.000)

Where we start, it's not going to be like, Okay, well now we need to respect all peoples that didn't think so.

Dan (00:13:44.000)

So on this episode, Alex does spend a fair amount of time talking about how great gold is doing and gold prices through the roof and what have you had, he has been on other episodes in 2003 two that I've been listening to, but he never mentions that he works for Midas resources and that they sell gold. He's not doing it. He's not doing the second stage of the gold sale thing. But it is so obvious that he's selling gold he's Marketing Gold, right and so here's a little clip of that and then a big if true news story.

Alex Jones (00:14:19.000)

This is very, very serious. And you know, I said I check it during the break and I didn't check it. I was busy bumming around to these articles trying to find that world daily and AP article about the judge down in South Texas, saying that people their graduation ceremony say the word Jesus will be given six months in jail. Hey, George, will you check that for me? Check the price of gold. I wanted to check that and it's my fault. I forgot during the break.

Dan (00:14:46.000)

Yeah, man. If you met Jesus Christ, you're gonna you're gonna get six months in jail. See, here's

Jordan (00:14:52.000)

the thing. I understand why saying if you mentioned Jesus Christ is war, like emotionally charged for people. But if you if If there was a law that was any word led you six months in jail, I'd be furious about it right? Like, it doesn't matter if it's Jesus Christ, or like, and If and let you hit six months of jail, I'd be furious, do ya?

Dan (00:15:13.000)

I mean, like, I guess yelling fire in a crowded building. If you lead to like people dying by like stampede, then maybe you could get a manslaughter charge or something. Right. But like that's that's a pretty specific circumstance.

Jordan (00:15:28.000)

It takes a lot of other problems going on around you before that becomes the central one.

Dan (00:15:33.000)

Yeah, maybe like a graduation speech. They don't want you to just like give a sermon, maybe at a public school. They don't necessarily, maybe that's not encouraged. But no. But also, by the way, why is a judge giving like this press conference, like, we will lock you up? Have you take Jesus?

Jordan (00:15:54.000)

Here's the problem, okay. He's locked up 30 or 40 people already for saying Jesus Christ, and he's just getting tired of it. Maybe people don't know about how you get locked up for saying it. So he's giving you a nice, perfect is more of a warning. Notice? Yeah, hey, just don't do it. You know, this is like a falling rock sign.

Dan (00:16:14.000)

Yeah. So we get another caller. And this person has a bit of a perspective that is like, hey, you know, what's great forced prayer in school. And if you don't like that, you can get the fuck out. I don't like that. Get out the country.

Caller 2 (758) (00:16:29.000)

Doesn't want to kind of talk about but I want to make a comment on it. When my children were young, I'm grateful that they had a teacher that led them in that little prayer. You mentioned,

Alex Jones (00:16:40.000)

God is great. God is good. Let us thank him for food. Let me stop you. You'll be now expelled from school if you say that,

Caller 2 (758) (00:16:49.000)

right? I think since we were founded as a Christian nation, those that are offended to just leave this nation and let us go on as a Christian.

Dan (00:16:59.000)

Yeah, man, if you don't like our tendencies towards theocracy, and you don't like our indoctrination of kids in public schools into Christianity, get the fuck out.

Jordan (00:17:11.000)

Yeah, all I'm saying, right there. All I'm saying is that if there's a child from a different culture, they need to go to an American school, have that culture torn from their bodies, assimilate into whiteness, and only white Christian theocracy, and then everything's gonna be fine. I feel like people are overreacting to

Dan (00:17:32.000)

my advice. Conversely, they have another choice. And that's get out. They could get out. Yeah, so when we, when we hear in the present day, you know, like Nick Fuentes coming in and talking a bit about like, these tendencies towards Christian theocracy, Christian nationalism, it is not a foreign conversation to the mentality of a lot of Infowars listeners even over like, far earlier times, yeah,

Jordan (00:18:00.000)

yeah, it makes you it makes you wonder, like, perhaps part of the reason that he's he's so willing to throw those those bombs is because, you know, maybe 15 years ago, it started becoming more important not to do those types of things. And so the right wing commentators took their anti semitism in the like, into that coded language world. And he wasn't alive for that he wasn't alive for the fallout from the first time everybody was like, what if we just hated Jews all the time? You know,

Dan (00:18:32.000)

it's possible. He wasn't alive for a lot of these, like, really important elements of the right wing. You know, it wasn't like for what happened after Oklahoma City. You know, there's, there's an argument to be made there that he probably doesn't recognize the stakes for the con people. For the militia organizing, you know,

Jordan (00:18:56.000)

sure. And he's, he's a kid. So you know, you can always just point to this kid and be like, listen, I know, you think you have had a brand new idea that no one's ever fucking thought of before. But I'm gonna be honest with you. You have not?

Dan (00:19:10.000)

Yeah, there's a fresh buddy. Yeah. So Alex's main story on this episode appears to be that the Supreme Court has decided that there is no second amendment, which I mean, he reports pretty much, three or four times a year based on a different story of some sort. And it is never true.

Jordan (00:19:30.000)

Yeah. 20 years old. I believe the Supreme Court has validated the Second Amendment at least 48 times. It's real. Yes.

Dan (00:19:38.000)

And so he's explaining some of this stuff to a caller who has a question about about this ruling.

Caller 2 (758) (00:19:44.000)

What's your new ruling by the Supreme Court due to Sheriff Max case that he brought the Florida Supreme Court on space rights and that they said that the Brady bill was under as

Alex Jones (00:20:02.000)

well, and yes, they did rule that it was unconstitutional and 97. But you notice the Brady bill is still in force, if they don't like a ruling the government, just the executive and legislative. If they like a ruling, they'll enforce it and the appeals court out in San Francisco, they rule a few months ago that there is no second amendment, that they can ban guns, any guns they wish and the Supreme Court ruled that they agree with that ruling and are not going to hear the case. And

Caller 2 (758) (00:20:32.000)

Jeff Mac's case still, Sam,

Alex Jones (00:20:35.000)

well, you know, each case is separate and different. And again, the Brady bill was kept in force and expanded.

Caller 2 (758) (00:20:46.000)

Good, it is not constitutional.

Alex Jones (00:20:49.000)

Yeah, so the Supreme Court said that they're not allowed to have instant checks and checks and all that, but they don't care. It continues.

Dan (00:20:58.000)

Hmm, indeed, completely unrelated to this caller or clip the day after this episode was recorded, the Supreme Court decided that the Potomac River was under Virginia's control. Maryland wanted to be in charge of the river, but the court said no. Court battle of who gets to the river. Okay, Alex is a really bad source of information, because pretty much everything he's saying in that clip is incorrect. He's telling this color inaccurate information and then using that to construct false narratives about the reality that we all live in. The 1997 Supreme Court case that Alex is talking about is Prince versus United States, and it did not determine that the Brady gun bill was unconstitutional. That bill had a provision that required gun background checks to be done for purchases. But on the federal level, that system was not prepared yet. According to the bill, state law enforcement agencies were required to use their background check system to run this until such time that the federal system was ready. Prince versus United States ruled that this was unconstitutional to make state law enforcement carry out federal law enforcement activity. The state law enforcement folks were required to be asked to do this. And then if they wanted to opt out they could. That was the result of this ruling. Ultimately, most states had no problem with the setup and continued to participate by their own consent, and the issue became moot once the federal background check system was operational. Naturally, Alex is lying about the Supreme Court decision to tell it this color that the government ruled the background checks for gun purchases was unconstitutional, but they didn't care. They just ignore rulings that they don't like. This is a dangerous message to be sending to an audience like Alex's because if the government doesn't even follow Supreme Court decisions, then isn't everything a farce? There's literally no way the public can be involved in politics and the globalists just decide who's going to win elections. And they can just act capriciously and decide whether or not to follow their own courts decisions. This is not a state of affairs that anyone rational or sincere would be presenting as just the way things are, this would be a message that implies the need for action, and all Civic, participatory government related actions are clearly pointless, based on his talent.

Jordan (00:23:14.000)

Yeah, absolutely. This is the one though that is is also the reason that Prince had to change his name to the symbol, right?

Dan (00:23:23.000)

No, it's a PRI en tz so cooler than Prince.

Jordan (00:23:28.000)

Ah, so close. I just like the idea that the Supreme Court, the thing about the Supreme Court is one of the reasons that it's so easily exploitable is because the actual decisions are so nerdy and specific, like not really decided on is whether or not this line is acceptable to cross by these very specific circumstances. So you might as well just claim it does anything right.

Dan (00:23:57.000)

Like who gets the river? Yeah, exactly. Exactly.

Jordan (00:24:02.000)

narrow circumstances.

Dan (00:24:05.000)

So I'm talking about these cases in court decisions. Alex never uses specifics. And that's for two reasons. One, he probably doesn't know any of them because he's lazy. And he does zero show prep, too. It's not in his interest to be specific because he's lying. And he doesn't want to make it easy for his audience to follow up his claims and realize that because he's so unspecific, I'm left to assume that the Ninth Circuit Court of Appeals case in San Francisco that he's referring to his Nordyke versus King, since that was a decision that came down in 2003 and was not accepted by the Supreme Court. That ruling has to do it's not with banning guns or declaring that there's no second amendment. It was a situation where a gun dealers sued Alameda County because the county had passed an ordinance banning possession of guns on county property. This included the fairgrounds which is where Nordyke the gun dealer held gun shows that are attendance was passed in 1999. And the reason was, was stated as being because there was a shooting that happened the previous Fourth of July, at the Allemagne affair, there was believed to be a bit of a gang confrontation that resulted in 10 injuries, including an eight year old boy and two other miners, right? This case about this ordinance is the closest thing I can find what Alex is talking about. And it's nowhere close to reflecting any of his narratives. I wonder if he gives some specifics about the story later in the episode. He doesn't. You shouldn't be optimistic that that information is going to come. It's just this dis ruling and because of the Supreme Court decided not to hear it. Now the Second Amendment's gone. No, no, no, the if they just ruled that a county does have the ability to ban runs on county property.

Jordan (00:25:52.000)

If if you think that the Supreme Court and I mean, if you think that the government is just enforcing whatever rules it likes or not, then I mean, there's there's the conclusion that, you know, there's no point in participating in democracy at all. But I would also imagine that if you have guns, and Alex is telling you that guns are banned in this country, and nobody's coming to stop you, then your assumption would be that they just don't want to do it right.

Dan (00:26:22.000)

Or they're waiting for the strategically right moment. Oh,

Jordan (00:26:25.000)

God, dang it. There's no when there's no when it's always, it's always fucked.

Dan (00:26:31.000)

When your worldview and reality is largely based on creative writing prompts. It turns out, you can just add new layers to things constantly out of a jam.

Jordan (00:26:43.000)

Yeah, I would have kicked a lot of people out of the creative writing class, if I were running it. A lot of people with me God,

Dan (00:26:50.000)

I would say that, you know, as an exercise that's gone on for 20 years in creative writing, it's very repetitive. We need some new themes and motifs to start

Jordan (00:27:02.000)

appearing your greatest CV after class.

Dan (00:27:06.000)

So Alex has this idea about these gun bills and these Supreme Court rulings and what have you. And you know, the NRA is derelict in its duty, because it's not telling people the fake versions of these bills that Alex is telling people.

Alex Jones (00:27:24.000)

The NRA and shotgun news and others would tell the truth about these rulings, it would stop pacifying gun owners, we get our Second Amendment that we'd be repealing the gun law next year, the assault weapons ban instead of Bush expanding it, the average gun owner doesn't even know about this, because Rush Limbaugh and the NRA have done their job of keeping you in the dark.

Dan (00:27:48.000)

As we saw in that last clip, it's Alex who's lying about these cases and rulings. He's the one creating a false reality in order to scare his audience. Alex needs to attack these more mainstream gun organizations because they don't live in his false reality. The NRA can support gun rights all day long. But if they don't pretend this Supreme Court decision is the end of the Second Amendment, then according to Alex, they have to be liars and probably gun grabbers in disguise. This strategy has a couple of good effects from Alex's standpoint. The first is that it makes anything the NRA does look less extreme and always not enough. The audience will always demand that the gun rights organizations take a couple more steps than they should because they believe that they're responding to the fake stories, Alex tells them. The second effect is that the audience will push the NRA further towards living in Alex's false reality, or at least behaving as if that false reality were real, in order to keep up with the base. For any sense of this, consider that Ted Nugent was a fairly controversial person to associate with back at this point. And he's now a member of the NRA Board. Yeah, you know, they have shifted a little due to this external pressure based on you know, false stories.

Jordan (00:29:00.000)

Yeah, I mean, and at the at this point, you know, why? Why are more people talking about it? Well, most people don't own assault rifles. I mean, an absurdly small number of people own assault rifles. And the only people who are protecting them are people who are either overreacting because of a slippery slope argument, or people who are like living in a fucking bungalow in Brooklyn being like, I need a surface to air missile, otherwise my won't be safe. You know, it's like, what are you gonna do? Well, there's

Dan (00:29:29.000)

some other people who were focusing on this story, and they are folks who like to sell guns at the fairgrounds in Alameda County. Those people are maybe paying close attention to the story, but people pay very close attention, but they think they understand that Alex's story is bullshit. If they are so we had earlier a story that is clearly nonsense about you going to prison for six months if you mentioned Jesus,

Jordan (00:29:56.000)

Jesus Christ. They're good. They're out here. Oh, We were recording remotely for the first time forever. And now the cops are out

Dan (00:30:03.000)

here, cherries and berries, Jared.

Jordan (00:30:06.000)

I said Jesus Christ.

Dan (00:30:09.000)

So now here's another prediction that Alex has about stuff that will happen. From a law enforcement standpoint. Sure near future and pay attention to this eat. See if you do you think this happened? Is Alex Correct?

Alex Jones (00:30:23.000)

My friends, what would you do? The federal government passed a law that at least one day a week you had to report to a local community service board, part of the growing Soviet style, neighborhood watch, that you had to go help. dig ditches, help with community projects, pick up trash, pull weeds, engage in checkpoints, help the police run checkpoints at random checkpoints on the side of the highway. What would you do? They were trying to pass a law to do that? Well, they are passing laws to do that. They built the infrastructure under AmeriCorps NowSecure Corps, which is a division of tips which they increase the funding for tips was never canceled. And to get out of high school, you'll have to serve several years as a tattletale, helping police serve warrants building during what points Fugitive Apprehension serve warrants.

Dan (00:31:29.000)

Yeah. What? Okay, so to get out of high school, you have to do a couple of years of Fugitive Apprehension. Yeah, we're bringing our 1516 year olds out there as bounty hunters.

Jordan (00:31:42.000)

Excuse me, sir. I just want to let you know that you've been served up here in court.

Dan (00:31:49.000)

You're gonna need to do that to graduate. Right? That's the premise. Yeah. What about to get a GED? Couldn't you just drop out? If you don't want to do

Jordan (00:31:59.000)

that? If you get a GED, you have to become a cop for five years. Yeah, there's no escape.

Dan (00:32:08.000)

So yeah, this was in 2003. This is Alex's prediction of what's coming. And I think he was wrong. I think, basically. I don't know, I guess I don't

Jordan (00:32:17.000)

know. I don't know if it's a terrible idea. Like, maybe, I mean, I think it's probably it's your ability to compel people to do

Dan (00:32:25.000)

terrible idea to outsource Fugitive Apprehension work.

Jordan (00:32:31.000)

More, like when he started his he was like, oh, you know, you have to pull dig weeds and all that stuff. And then it elevated to serving warrants very quickly. Yeah. Way to click like

Dan (00:32:43.000)

volunteerism and encouraging it within people in high school, I don't think is bad. And like, when when I was at the University of Missouri, I worked for a while at the office of service learning. And it was part of my job was to look through the course catalog and try and find courses that naturally lend themselves to volunteer opportunities being incorporated into the curriculum is really cool. Yeah. And so that kind of stuff, I think, is very positive. And I think Alex would interpret that as college students being forced to serve wars, or something. Yeah.

Jordan (00:33:20.000)

Or like, or like a neighborhood surveillance like you're always watching your people around. Yes, niche patrols.

Dan (00:33:29.000)

I just thought that was pretty. I mean, he's, he can't like, I don't understand how anybody could take him seriously when he's talking about this. Like, have you ever met a 1516 year old? Do you think you trust them to? Listen, currently, that can be pretty dangerous. Not something you would have somebody who can't drive do

Jordan (00:33:54.000)

I feel it out. On the other hand, there are a lot of opportunities for a ambush warrant issues. If it's children, that your work. You're not expecting children to serve you a war, right? So you, you're like, Oh, I'm gonna enjoy this pretzel and a little 15 year old walks up to you and he's like, Excuse me, sir. Do you know which way the memo store is for Kohl's I need to buy a new T shirt You've been served. That's the way to do it.

Dan (00:34:20.000)

I think if you're talking about like a summons to appear or something like that, or a lawsuit that like anybody could deliver that they don't get serve that but if you're talking about like violent criminals are like, I like to think Fugitive Apprehension. Like that implies somebody who's on the run. Yeah,

Jordan (00:34:38.000)

maybe you don't want

Dan (00:34:39.000)

that kind of person. If you're a child.

Jordan (00:34:44.000)

All right. We're gonna take this 15 year old to Venezuela to catch the top nine Most Wanted FBI criminal because otherwise he won't graduate.

Dan (00:34:55.000)

In order to get into college. You need extracurriculars? Some people can do Debate Club. Some people might get into sports but you know, if you can't make the team, maybe you got to be dogged about.

Jordan (00:35:07.000)

Maybe maybe a bounty hunt for a little while. I like Cowboy Bebop. Why not?

Dan (00:35:14.000)

So dumb. I love it. Yeah, that's pretty fun. So one of the things you need to understand is that your mind has a lock on it. And there's a key, it's in the shape of Alex on

Alex Jones (00:35:27.000)

minds one mind at a time, go to infowars.com or prison planet.com. To order or to get my book or Paul Watson's book, order out of chaos or the new video by Eric Hoffman painful questions about 911. This was important stuff, the best stuff I found out there that I've seen that I've read

Dan (00:35:46.000)

the other best stuff that he's found. And just you know, a note Eric comes from, it's the anti semitic techno artist who is concerned about underwear and your balls. So the best stuff that's that's what Alex is selling. He's pushing that pretty, pretty hard. He's making money for Huffman,

Jordan (00:36:05.000)

this pair of underwear is really really good at supporting lefty. But I'm telling you the right side disaster,

Dan (00:36:17.000)

and you're concerned with the left right ball paradigm?

Jordan (00:36:20.000)

I am. Because I know what's above the left, right ballpark.

Dan (00:36:30.000)

This show my work if I take cough syrup. If I'm on DayQuil this show

Jordan (00:36:38.000)

we're a little bit giddy,

Dan (00:36:40.000)

perhaps but we have to enjoy a little bit of a little bit of fun. Because ultimately I understand what's coming. And I know that this next clip is a bit a bit of a shocker. Oh no. And so Mike down for this Jordan, this is this is another call that Alex gets. That blew me away.

Caller 3 (758) (00:37:00.000)

Well, you don't want to call the clan the invisible empire. Watch that. You young never see them. Ones that count. Like me and rest guys around here.

Alex Jones (00:37:14.000)

So you're in the Ku Klux Klan?

Caller 3 (758) (00:37:16.000)

Well, I mean, nobody knows it to me as a neighbor.

Alex Jones (00:37:22.000)

And you think that that the Ku Klux Klan is going to stop the government?

Caller 3 (758) (00:37:26.000)

Well, it's tough to hear about it. Everybody is bound to the plan. As soon as they challenge their righteous indignation. They get up on their horse and they ride and that's what's gonna happen.

Alex Jones (00:37:46.000)

Okay, thanks. Thanks for the call Jacob. I'm um I'm not against black people, or Hispanics or any other race. I am disgusted by the Black Panthers. It's the new leader Khalid Mohammed who says kill all white people. And I've got him on video folks in a debate with Anthony Hildur saying we want to kill every white child, every white woman. I've got him on video marketing and Houston saying the same thing was loaded shotguns, which was their right to do they guaranteed arrest a bunch of white people doing that. But and then, and then whites see the racist blacks. And then they go join the race groups, and then them and then the Mexicans and Hispanics see the racist whites and they go and join the racist match in La Raza. And this is exactly what the government wants.

Dan (00:38:32.000)

Normally, I think I would hear someone call into the show and claim to be in the Klan and I wouldn't really believe it. In this case I buy 100%

Jordan (00:38:40.000)

That guy is in the fucking clan that is the Klansmen if there's ever been one,

Dan (00:38:45.000)

he sounds pretty sincere, and he sounds old enough to own a hood.

Jordan (00:38:49.000)

He's a he's got 30 copies of Birth of a Nation that he hands out on Christmas,

Dan (00:38:56.000)

he sounded pretty cryptic to like which I feel it lends to his credibility.

Jordan (00:39:01.000)

Well, you opened with a riddle. Plan loves riddles. That's what like that's everybody knows that. Now,

Dan (00:39:11.000)

the reason this clip is important is that it really has echoes of how Alex dealt with yay and Nick and the present day. He has a caller who's admitted to being a proud Klan member, which is something Alex is supposedly against in the same way he's supposedly against Hitler and the Nazis these days. And yet somehow, Alex can't manage to make a clear, emphatic statement in opposition to these groups. With Yann Nick, he can't rebuke the Nazi and Hitler's ship choosing instead to pretend that the ADL is worse than Nick and because of fake stories that he repeats over and over about how they think white people are inherently evil. The only way to give voice to criticism of yay and Nick's Nazi ideas is to condemn them along with the ADL, and be very insistent that the ADL is worse. And here Alex can't just tell this caller that the Klan is bad and he shouldn't be a member of it. Instead, he rattles off a bizarre rationalization for why he assumes this guy joined the clan, which I don't think is too far off from what folks in the clan might say. They also love to pretend that their racism is justified by imagining it only exists as a defense against other people being racist against them. This is Alex giving the appearance of pushing back against this guy who's literally in the Klan, while actually making excuses for him and making the act of joining a hate group a possibly unwise, but morally neutral decision. This is because Alex doesn't actually think being a member of a hate group is a bad thing. He can't even get through this response to the caller without speculating how white people would be arrested for open carrying, while black people get away with it, essentially justifying and signing off on the feelings of racial aggrievement that drive a lot of people toward these racist groups. Here's an important thing to understand. Even if a listener or this caller were to accept Alex's framing of things and concede at all, there's still no reason not to be a member of the clan. If and only if we're able to defeat the globalists, then these racist groups will stop being played against each other. But until that happens, and even they understand that that's never going to happen, then these other races groups will still exist. The Klan members and Nazis believe that they are defensive organizations. So if those other groups still exist, their rationale for the racism remains entirely intact. I understand that Alex doesn't show up to the studio knowing that like he's going to be on the phone with a Klan member. But he definitely should have known it was a distinct possibility. Like he knows who his audience is, and the fact that he doesn't have any stronger condemnation for the Klan than this is damning. It's shockingly bad.

Jordan (00:41:49.000)

Yeah. I mean, it's, it's, it shouldn't be more complicated. And yet somehow, it's very simple. You know, like, if somebody calls and tells you that they are a clans member, and then you go, Well, yeah, of course you are. But it's not your fault. It's because black people are racist. You're a bad person. Like

Dan (00:42:10.000)

it's not what you would expect if you actually oppose

Jordan (00:42:13.000)

the Hey, listen, I get it. You're a Klan member. Obviously, black people are racist. That's why the Klan was invented before black people were allowed to vote and every all the oh my god, no, actually, they're the horrible Oh, no. Ah, see, that can't happen.

Dan (00:42:30.000)

Yeah, can happen. It's very strange. And so

Jordan (00:42:33.000)

what the thing about the Klan is that the Black Panther Party wants to kill all white people. I'm sorry, what now?

Dan (00:42:38.000)

Yeah, that's my real problem with it. Yeah. Hmm. So Alex tries to follow this up by condemning the clan, a little late, quite late. One of the things that he seems to want to do is discuss it only in terms that have nothing to do with race

Alex Jones (00:42:58.000)

monitoring. I would my mother be a substitute teacher, you know, she'd worker in the summer sheet. My grandmother was a school teacher. She'd go do teaching for summer school, and he'd have to hang around with her walk down to the pool. And kids would come over to him and go you Yankee get out of here. And of course, my family had Spanish land grants for mating 30. But that's my experience with the Ku Klux Klan is that it's basically used to harass anybody in business. They don't like somebody from the county or next town, they don't like good. And I had family in reconstruction, who had their hotel antique turned, burned down. And on the gravestones, it says, murdered, killed by Northern soldiers. But again, you've got a lot of people there who I would later ask around who aren't even from Teague, Texas, but they come in, they show up, they start the Klan. They run around and use it for their own political control. So that's when the Ku Klux Klan.

Dan (00:44:02.000)

Yeah, that's a little bit weird. So yeah, it's just it's just a group that harasses business owners that they don't like driving learners at a Teague, Texas.

Jordan (00:44:13.000)

My main problem with the Klan, is they inconvenience a lot of people. That's an in general fashion. No one in specific. Right. And I mean, they don't solve problems. That's just a big problem. You know, it's just just no group in particular, the clan.

Dan (00:44:32.000)

Yeah, the clan. It's mostly just like, the shakedown operation of business.

Jordan (00:44:39.000)

Hey, come on, come on. Sure. They started as one thing but you know, like VW made engines for the Nazis, you know, we can change to better people.

Dan (00:44:50.000)

Yikes. So, Alex goes to commercial. Get going to get a little bit of a break after talking to a class Yeah, regroup. And I heard this commercialised thought it was like I'm gonna play a couple seconds of it I thought this was like really fucking dumb.

Alex Jones (00:45:06.000)

Hey folks, Alex Jones here and I'm very excited to announce the release of my bombshell documentary film 911 The road to tyranny on DVD That's right folks DVD. That's right

Dan (00:45:16.000)

folks. DVD it's so crass to me to hear like a 911 conspiracy talking about are you being sold with that like morning radio voice?

Jordan (00:45:28.000)

That is coming up this Sunday? Like, wait, I'm sorry.

Dan (00:45:32.000)

Let me tell you we're building seven coming up right after the break.

Jordan (00:45:37.000)

If I understand correctly, your documentary is proving that the United States government did a false flag onto its own country in order to start a war and the way you're selling it is with this

Dan (00:45:50.000)

Yeah, it's it's a little it makes me it feels unserious.

Jordan (00:45:56.000)

Maybe undercuts the level of gravitas that your documentary by deserve.

Dan (00:46:02.000)

Now another point that I'd like to bring up here is that we've heard Alex claim that he was the number one voiceover guy in the world. Criticizing Obama was like, oh, no, you can't get any jobs. Like, if that's what he's bringing to the table. I don't I don't think he has a place in the market. I don't think that's good voiceover work.

Jordan (00:46:25.000)

I mean, he's not going to be on a GEICO commercial anytime soon. With that kind of stuff. He's not gonna get his own recurring character

Dan (00:46:31.000)

there. You know, though, they do have those GEICO commercials that are like washed up celebrities who are like it like in weird circumstances. So give it 10 years he might show up on a commercial then

Jordan (00:46:41.000)

hey, you want to reboot into the new cavemen GEICO show starring Nick roll, and then

Dan (00:46:49.000)

subtly tried to sell his caveman bone broth? Like now it like going going into business for himself during?

Jordan (00:46:56.000)

Synergy? Synergy? Yeah. Two birds with one stone.

Dan (00:46:59.000)

Yeah. Brilliant. So Alex gets a call from a Mason. Lot of folks in groups,

Jordan (00:47:06.000)

what are we what are we doing? Did everybody join a group in 2003 that I didn't know about? It was

Dan (00:47:13.000)

it was a group heavy time. So this guy says that he's a master mason. And Alex believes that that means that he's a 33rd degree, Mason. And Alex is talking talking about, Hey, man, tell me

Jordan (00:47:28.000)

he just built thing. Tell me he's just a person who builds houses you're

Dan (00:47:32.000)

not far off. But before we get to the reveal the prestige, Alex has to talk about like stuff about how Masons get away with murder,

Alex Jones (00:47:42.000)

of course. And over in England, there's been a lot of mainstream news articles about how you can't get a consulting job, you can't get a big government job, you can't get found not guilty, unless you're a mason or unless you're a nation. And we found out that they're all scratching each other's backs. It's like Italian mafia or something. Or it's kind of a wasp mob, you can say. And they team up with other nations around the world. It's a global thing. We do pull my follow the story of when he was running bars during Prohibition in Houston. Some guys tried to rob him, he killed two of them walked in inflammation and distress sign at the judge instantly faced this match. So it's also basically a license to kill.

Dan (00:48:36.000)

You got the Mason and distressed side, dual pane

Jordan (00:48:40.000)

tube, okay.

Dan (00:48:44.000)

So Alex is is going off on these, like this grand Mason stuff, because he thinks he's got like a high level Mason on the phone, and they're gonna be able to commiserate. But also the guy is saying, in addition to being amazing, he's saying that like, he started listening to Alex's show, and it started to wake him up, and he's thinking maybe he's involved in an evil organization. So sure, Alex is going to try and lay this track that this guy is then going to be able to sign off on as a high level Mason. Unfortunately, he's not.

Alex Jones (00:49:16.000)

Number one. Eric, you say you're practicing masturbation, as anything I've said been inaccurate. And then you say you're beginning to wake up to this and have questions. You have the floor. Go ahead. Oh, thanks,

Mason Caller (758) (00:49:27.000)

Alex. Um, when I said Master Mason, I was talking about Blue Lodge. I had just the third degree Master Mason degree, I have not gone into the higher levels of the 32nd. Although I had many offers, I was briefly involved with the Grotto. I had offers to go into the Eastern Star, which is primarily the sort of the women's arm of the Masons. I was offered to go into Scottish Rite, Scottish Rite York, right and various other things. But, you know, there's sort of a little voice gnawing at me, and I'm asking myself Okay, Eric, have you sort of been a useful idiot here in the trenches of this giant fraternity? You know, I asked myself this question, Have I sort of been a useful idiot? You know, practicing the tenants. I mean, the tenants that are preached in my lodge seem to be wonderful tenants. But is it? Is it a veneer? Or something that's far deeper and far more dark?

Alex Jones (00:50:18.000)

Well, yeah. I mean, we haven't even gotten into the Scottish Rite. But if you haven't gone up into the higher degrees, by the way, there's 360 degrees. Really? Yeah. And he told us can't go over about 76 da Yeah, that's the human level principality shooting at the other point, so the competence with Lucifer 360.

Jordan (00:50:44.000)

There's Azazel is principality.

Dan (00:50:46.000)

Yeah. So Alex realizes that this guy isn't very deep into the Masons and decides like out to blow his mind. There's 360 degrees.

Jordan (00:50:56.000)

No, man, you just hang out with your kids.

Dan (00:51:01.000)

Dude, I can make up whatever I want.

Jordan (00:51:04.000)

No, right. That's the fun thing about him. Only big level three is like, he doesn't know. And he already believes it could be anything. Yeah. And

Dan (00:51:13.000)

he's already suspicious of it. And like coming around to thinking like, hey, maybe Alex is onto something. Oh, hey, guess what? Level 77 That's where the demons start.

Jordan (00:51:23.000)

Here's, here's the problem. Here's the problem. Yep. What organization events 360 degrees for anything that's so many degrees where there's not enough. If you're if you're going to complain about a generation growing up with too many participation trophies, if the Masons give out a degree for everything you do, oh, it's got poured me a drink. He's 38 degree now?

Dan (00:51:44.000)

Well, and you've got to think like, imagine the bureaucracy. Like, imagine the micromanagement and like this every if you have 360 degrees that you have to and like, a good 290 of them are not for human

Jordan (00:52:00.000)

completely complete demons. Right?

Dan (00:52:05.000)

Are they up to you? Are they the ones deciding if you get that this org chart is a mess? But yeah, I would, I would mess with it. This raises a few important questions. And that is, do the demons start at level 77? Or do they have to be like level 123? So you recruit a demon to the things right?

Jordan (00:52:25.000)

Right? If you're level one human, are you in the same level one classes, maybe a couple of demons in there, you know, like, you've got six humans, and then there's two or three demons right with you? Or be jealous because you're like, Oh, those motherfuckers can get past 77?

Dan (00:52:39.000)

Yeah. He's the right from going level 6076 to 77. Murder, you have to kill yourself. Do you be a demon? Right? Is it a Yeah, transformative, right into the 77th degree? Because these questions are unanswered, because Alex is making this shit up.

Jordan (00:52:59.000)

That'd be one reason that could be one reason.

Dan (00:53:02.000)

I do love it. When Alex is like, I'm gonna get back up from this guy. I got a caller on the line, it's gonna be great. And then he realizes I can just make up whatever I want this person. They don't know shit. There is

Jordan (00:53:12.000)

a moment of freedom there though. There is a moment of freedom that I did definitely hear whatever the guy was like, Oh, I'm only a third degree. And I was offered the other thing Alex was chomping at just like I could say anything, right?

Dan (00:53:25.000)

It's a sort of freedom mixed with disappointment. Because like, if the guy was, you know, somewhere in higher levels, or was willing to pretend to be Andy was gonna sign off on Alex is like, yeah, you can just say bring some in distress, or whatever. That would give him so much like credibility to this bullshit.

Jordan (00:53:43.000)

Yeah. Oh, man. Imagine if it was Imagine if the tables were turned. And this guy was like, no, no, no, I met the 77th level. Here's the problem. Humans can't get past that would that would freak Alex out beyond all reason?

Dan (00:53:57.000)

Well, I'm gonna guess at that point, he would shift the story somehow. Naturally, demons can't use phones. I can't as a rule that I cannot do that voice right now is a disaster.

Jordan (00:54:12.000)

You're under the weather. They we got it. We got it. Somebody on the injured report. He's questionable for today.

Dan (00:54:17.000)

So Alex gets another caller. And this guy has an interesting question about Planet X.

Alex Jones (00:54:23.000)

Let's go ahead and talk to rock in British Columbia. Go ahead, sir. You're on the air. Good to talk to you, Brock.

Caller 4 (758) (00:54:35.000)

I wanted to ask you about Planet X. And is it for real what is it? And I also wanted to ask the nutshell if you could. Who Killed John F. Kennedy.

Alex Jones (00:54:50.000)

Okay, Brock, want to answer those questions? Thanks for the call. Two big

Jordan (00:54:53.000)

ones. Two big ones. Two big ones at the same time. They are ambitious.

Dan (00:54:58.000)

What about this other plan? I that secretly there. And while you're at it, JFK, well, I'm not sure.

Jordan (00:55:07.000)

If I've got the chance I've just had maybe you don't answer. Maybe you do. But while I'm here, I might as well throw the question out there,

Dan (00:55:13.000)

asking Alex about JFK who did it. That's an impulse impulse buy. It's like picking up gum. Yeah. So here's Alex's take on Planet X.

Alex Jones (00:55:24.000)

We've been listening to the show for a long period of time, you know that I said three years ago, four years ago, the Planet X was a complete fraud. I mean, when it comes from Zacharias Sitchin, the little New Age propagandas, funded by the Rockefeller Brothers Foundation, and he goes and interprets the Sumerian texts, and it's been proven that he interpreted them wrong. And there's this 10th planet that's really didn't speak Sumerian, which was an issue every, you know, 3600 years and kill us. cause earthquakes and Titanic floods and all the rest of this. And everybody got on the air, not everybody, but a lot of people and picked up on this and said, Oh, it's the end of the world, it's going to hit us supposed to kill us last summer. And then strangely, no, if you didn't do less come closer to the earth and it had been in hundreds of 1000s of years. And in fact, it got half as close as then from what normally is it covered half the day. The Earth stop. And a lot of researchers like text Mars and others have looked at this and said that the Planet X Phenomenon is an is a coming of the occult, and show this was all a double meaning for the occultist in high places. Yeah.

Dan (00:56:53.000)

So you understand, right?

Jordan (00:56:54.000)

I can't, I can't follow that whatsoever. One, it's a hoax. And two, it's also closer than they expected it to be. It's both of those things

Dan (00:57:02.000)

well, but it's not the 10th planet. It's Mars or something. And it's really a metaphor for the occult rising. Mars, apparently an astrologist along with his anti semitic religious Christian identity preaching and seems he seems to know everything about everything, which is a hallmark of a cool person.

Jordan (00:57:23.000)

His name is Tex Mars, so I think he does know everything about both technology and Mars. That makes perfect sense to

Dan (00:57:31.000)

me. It's T x, t, XE and M A R Rs So

Jordan (00:57:38.000)

Well, that's clearly to throw us off the trail.

Dan (00:57:41.000)

Probably. Probably. I'm sorry. So yeah, the Planet X was bullshit that was made up by Zecharia Sitchin by because he was funded by the Rockefellers, which is not, I mean, Alex is gonna need to substantiate that somehow, somehow, but he like he's been writing about this shit since 1976. Like, I think that's when the 12th planet first came out the his book that began that series, and that was based on like, Erich Von Daniken. Shit. So like, right, you know, the Chariots of the Gods is intermixed in with this. And that was like in the 60s. Yeah, I don't know, I don't know how all of that is supposed to be like, a predictor of the rise of the occult in 2003. That didn't seem to do anything.

Jordan (00:58:33.000)

I think I think what it is, is the ambition of naming your book, the 12th planet, because that skips over both the 10th and the 11th. Like, we're just assuming already that you know about those two secret planets, right? Like, that's what sticks with you. A guy with with? I mean, ambition bigger than the stars, if you will.

Dan (00:58:55.000)

Yeah, I mean, I I'm not proud to admit this. I have read the 12th planet.

Jordan (00:59:01.000)

Yeah, I read 10th and 11th planets does he explain?

Dan (00:59:05.000)

I wish I remembered. It is not something that has stuck out in my mind as like a I know, I think Tia mopped to mop is one of them. I

Jordan (00:59:16.000)

think always bad when you name something to me, that's, that's a sign that you're not really paying that much attention.

Dan (00:59:22.000)

I'm trying to look this up here. See if the they can give me a breakdown of what these planets are. Well, there's like, okay, so like there's an Ubuntu RW, right? Sure. Then it like hit to your mod, and then to mod broke. I don't fucking remember who knows. I just worried about

Jordan (00:59:41.000)

how the acronym is going to work. Or the mnemonic device, you know, like my very earthly mother, and then I don't know what happens after Pluto. You know, it could be anything back there.

Dan (00:59:55.000)

Sure, or you might have to interject it into the because it might be close. or at times,

Jordan (01:00:00.000)

Oh, here's another thing. In the meantime, since he wrote that book, Pluto, no longer a planet. Now it's the 11th planet,

Dan (01:00:08.000)

unless he's also found another one. Who Latin considered that? You never know. So yeah, Alex was was cool. Like he knew that this was bullshit. He wasn't going in with the end of the world claims or anything.

Alex Jones (01:00:23.000)

I predicted three four years ago that when it didn't hit us the scammers would then say or the useful idiots would then say, oh, Planet X was on the Gregorian calendar was all three years. So that calendar coming in three years now. And it's like clockwork, they said, Oh, it's the Gregorian calendar. We were wrong. Now, it's going to be coming in two years, three years from now. So they can keep selling your books and videos. And that is exactly what they did. It wasn't a hard cash. The scam preachers that say the end of the world is next year, give me all your money. Every time the end of the world didn't come, you know, in 1987, or whatever. Like they said they would then say Oh, watch the Gregorian calendar in three years. And then start the whole process over again.

Dan (01:01:21.000)

See that? That was easy for Alex to call out because that's what he does, too.

Jordan (01:01:26.000)

I'm just gonna say like, Oh, it's so it's almost like somebody predicting a financial collapse or perhaps a summer of rage every single year or month.

Dan (01:01:35.000)

Right. We just had our calculations a little bit Oh, the Fed something to stop the summer of rates from happening, but you still should bail our gold and stuff?

Jordan (01:01:42.000)

Or are we meant to lose all diesel fuel in the United States? Like two weeks ago? We

Dan (01:01:47.000)

do. We're on three weeks with no diesel. Yeah,

Jordan (01:01:53.000)

it's been a while since we've lost all of the diesel fuel and all the trucks and fallen apart.

Dan (01:01:58.000)

But even like, take the other stuff like the globalists are about to make their move. They've made their move, you know, like, FEMA camps are coming. It's right around the corner. He does this all the fucking time. And his audience just has I don't know why, but on the limited tolerance for just being like, oh, yeah, you manage to stop it or something.

Jordan (01:02:20.000)

I find it disrespectful to point out the scam you're doing and blame other people in the same way that all psychics and mediums are always like, listen, I get it. You think that psychics and mediums are bullshit, because the other ones are but I'm the real one. You know, that kind of thing where it's like if everybody else is bullshit. So are you?

Dan (01:02:41.000)

Well, it's a little bit disrespectful. But on another level, it also kind of seems to indicate a little bit the maybe Alex's perception of himself is that he is not that which is possible. If that's the case, that is a bummer. But yeah, good be. So we have one last clip here. And it's Alex responding to this guy's second question, which is the JFK question. Of course, and this kind of bummed me out because I don't want our last 2003 episode, we had a little conversation about the admitted widow, the Lady Bird John

Jordan (01:03:14.000)

ladybird Lake, admitted widow admitted

Dan (01:03:19.000)

it, Alex actually, he moves the goalposts a little bit here on this episode, the large

Alex Jones (01:03:24.000)

banks that own the military industrial complex ordered at Texas, Hitman and others under CIA control. And we've had the witnesses and the people that were there and LBJ is lawyer and his mistress on the show and it's all admitted now that they did the planning and execution. But the big bankers pulled the lever ordered the hit because he Kennedy wanted to get us out of the Federal Reserve. You wanted to stop letting corporations be international and leave me like Smedley Butler is involved in tariffs on trade. He was getting us out of Vietnam. He cut taxes by 30%. They were not happy with him. I'm sorry. Let's talk to John in North Carolina.

Dan (01:04:09.000)

He has quite a quite a number of reasons apparently why JFK was killed by the bankers. Yeah,

Jordan (01:04:15.000)

I've said it before. It's shocking that more people didn't kill JFK considering

Dan (01:04:20.000)

there were so many reasons to do it was like Murder on the Orient Express. It was like

Jordan (01:04:24.000)

everybody had a reason.

Dan (01:04:27.000)

Paul row could have gotten to the bottom. So just like that we go from an admitted widow to LBJ his mistress. Seems like Alex doesn't really sweat the small stuff like talking accurately and saying true things. Details are tough. Alex is referring to Madeline Brown, a woman who has been widely discredited by people who have looked into her claims. She alleged that she was at a party in Dallas the night before the assassination with folks including but not limited to LBJ Nixon and J. Edgar Hoover, but concrete evidence puts all Have these people except Nixon outside of Dallas that entire night, they could not have been there and Nixon's whereabouts were accounted for in Dallas.

Jordan (01:05:11.000)

If you've got those guys in the same room and Dallas, that's the room, I'm assassinating the President's Room.

Dan (01:05:19.000)

The meeting is essentially impossible to have happened, which is where the threat to kill JFK was said to have happened. And you can kind of see how this pokes a gigantic hole in her story, because it's impossible.

Jordan (01:05:31.000)

So it's one than the other know how that statement works.

Dan (01:05:35.000)

subsequent investigation of her past is shown that she's a bit of a fraud person having been convicted of forging the will of an elderly relative in 1988, who had recently died. She's kind of like a JFK era Larry Nichols type so it makes sense that she and Alex would get together and stir up some bullshit together but that's the admitted widow that sucks. I guess it would suck more if like ladybird.

Jordan (01:06:00.000)

Yeah, that would be an unusual, then we'd be in Nelson. We'd be in Mandela Effects territory. If ladybird was was actually there is an info warrior. The one thing that sneaks through to the other side, this one sign that things have changed?

Dan (01:06:20.000)

I would imagine. I would imagine if ladybird had been on Alex would not stop talking about it even to the present. So that should have been a clue for us. But that was that did not happen. You're right. You're right.

Jordan (01:06:30.000)

That one that one does make sense. God, what would that be like if I was sitting like even I mean, even wouldn't show up? No, no, I wouldn't have been a city. I'm just a broadcaster. Yeah,

Dan (01:06:44.000)

back then. In my head, I'm

Jordan (01:06:48.000)

thinking like, what what Vice Prez or no like what first lady? What show would be as insane as ladybird showing up at Reagan?

Unknown Speaker (01:06:57.000)

Infowars. No, Hillary

Jordan (01:07:01.000)

hurt Nancy Reagan showing up anywhere would be fine. That lady was nuts. Come on

Dan (01:07:06.000)

Hillary.

Jordan (01:07:10.000)

tipper tipper going on. Our stirred tipper going on stirred might be as crazy as that.

Dan (01:07:19.000)

If the if Uncle Luke Luke Skywalker from two live crew had a podcast record show.

Jordan (01:07:28.000)

I would want listen to the hell out of that, too. Yes, I would lose my shit.

Dan (01:07:35.000)

Yeah, that would be Luke Skywalker. He can't call himself that anymore. He got sued.

Jordan (01:07:41.000)

Yeah, well, on account of There's a very famous name,

Dan (01:07:45.000)

trademark. So yeah, we come to the end of this 2003 episode and a lot of calls, some shady shit. Clan member goes essentially on rebuked. Norris can't talk about the baby Jesus because of the Jewish influence in the media.

Jordan (01:08:06.000)

Here's my here's my feeling on how the calls went on that once the guy opened with Chuck Norris can't say things because of the Jewish media. The clan guy was like, well, obviously I'm gonna call later. And then once the clan guy called the Mason guy was like, well, the Masons have to be representative, that client is gonna show up on this thing. Right? Right. It's a regular old cascade of cause and effect

Dan (01:08:30.000)

a domino of group members needing representation. Yes, and I'm just sad that he didn't have a fourth our back at this point because that was when the Illuminati would have called in the globalist and then a 230/3 degree Mason demon.

Jordan (01:08:53.000)

Baby, maybe just the Daughters of the American Revolution would have been a good way to go next, you know, ease into the next one before you get to the Illuminati.

Dan (01:09:01.000)

Now we gotta go with like the the the was at the Council of 12 The Bill Gates as a member of maybe we'll have 12

Jordan (01:09:08.000)

until he was a middleman.

Dan (01:09:12.000)

Yeah, no, we gotta go. We gotta, we gotta escalate this hard. fairpoint we have to go to like, super elite organizations that maybe don't exist and are very mysterious.

Jordan (01:09:27.000)

Here's the Ultimate Terror I have with your witchcraft. Is that based upon the level of magic that you have displayed so far? I'm terrified that you're going to alter the universe in such a way that the next 2003 episode we did. He has a literal interview with the devil. Like, ah, well, surprise. He's been bitching about this guy in the present. Guess who shows up in the past?

Dan (01:09:52.000)

Or the devil calls in

Jordan (01:09:58.000)

first time caller time. I got this disease covered up and 20 years and I got a you are the spokesman for it my friend

Dan (01:10:09.000)

Alex, I saw you a bohemian grove man, why didn't you say hi?

Jordan (01:10:14.000)

I was wearing the owl costume dude I was wearing

Dan (01:10:20.000)

Well, let's hope it doesn't come to that, but I'll be prepared. So anyway, we come to the end of this, but we'll be back with another episode shortly but until then

Jordan (01:10:31.000)

we indeed we do. It's knowledge fight.com

Dan (01:10:35.000)

Yep. Where else on Twitter.

Jordan (01:10:36.000)

We are on Twitter at that knowledge underscore fight.

Dan (01:10:39.000)

We'll be back but till then I'm Neil. I'm Leo MD ZX Clark. I am the the vice count of DayQuil Vikatan

Alex Jones (01:10:52.000)

Andy in Kansas, you're on the air. Thanks for holding. Well, Alex, I'm a first time caller. I'm a huge fan. I love your work.