Transcript/718: August 21-22, 2022

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N-N-N-N-N-N-N-Knowledge Fight!

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Dan and Jordan, I am sweating!

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Knowledgefight.com, it's time to pray!

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I have great respect for Knowledgefight!

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Knowledgefight!

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I'm sick of them posing as if they're the good guys, saying,

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we are the bad guys, Knowledgefight!

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Dan and Jordan, Knowledgefight!

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Riddle her, riddle her, riddle her!

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I need, I need money!

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Riddle her, riddle her, riddle her!

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Andy and Kansas, Andy and Kansas!

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Stop it!

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Andy and Kansas, Andy and Kansas!

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It's time to pray!

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Andy and Kansas, you're on the air, thanks for holding us!

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Hello Alex, I'm a first-time caller, I'm a huge fan!

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I love your work!

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Knowledgefight!

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N-N-N-N-N-Knowledgefight.com, I love you!

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Hey everybody, welcome back to Knowledgefight, I'm Dan.

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I'm Jordan!

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We're a couple dudes, like to sit around, worship at the altar

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of Selene, and talk a little bit about Alex Jones.

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Oh indeed we are, Dan.

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Jordan.

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Dan!

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Jordan.

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Quick question for you, buddy.

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What's up?

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What's your bright spot?

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My bright spot today, Jordan, is the button stuff.

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Yes.

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I may have underestimated the demand.

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Bright is the sun, it is very bright.

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The number of buttons suggests very large brightness.

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It's a lot of requests.

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You know, it's hard to not just still be in the same headspace

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of like, we're just doing a podcast on my desk.

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Well see, we haven't moved.

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Right.

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Yeah, we're still in the exact same place.

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There's still nobody else working on the show, it's still just us.

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So the day-to-day of this feels kind of the same.

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Well, there were 40 people listening and we did it like this,

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and now there's more, and we're still doing it like this, so how would we know?

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Yeah, and I just can't conceive of the fact that there are a ton of people listening,

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and so in my head it's still that same thing.

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Right.

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And so yeah, even compared to the last time we did this, it's a massive amount of people

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who want buttons.

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I don't even feel comfortable saying that there are a lot of people listening.

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I feel like it makes us hubristically in trouble.

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It feels weird, but I appreciate the interest in these buttons.

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Yes.

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And I should tell you, Jordan, one thing I'm noticing from the early reports,

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we may have exploded in Scotland.

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I don't know what it is.

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Finally!

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But we have cracked the Scottish market.

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Dan, I have been waiting to get my chance at the Fringe Festival for decades now.

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This might be it.

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Oh, I'm there, baby!

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Um, yeah, that was a trend that I was noticing, and Washington is staying strong.

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A lot of interest from Washington.

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Washington state, or the man?

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Both.

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Oh, okay, good.

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Also Washington, the concept.

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Look, that didn't land.

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Listen, you landed it the way it landed.

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Let's be happy.

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So here's the situation that we have in front of us.

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Too many requests.

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Too many.

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I cannot handle much more.

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So we are closing the requests.

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Friday, end of day Friday.

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End of day Friday.

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So this episode's coming out on Friday.

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Today, you are listening to this is the last day to get requests.

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Let's call it zero zero zero zero Greenwich Mean Time.

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Sure, yes.

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I will set the clock on my Gmail account to Greenwich Mean.

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Yes, I think that's the way to go.

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So get those crests in if you want to have them.

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And I'm sorry to people who are listening who are behind,

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but there's just nothing I can do about that.

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It's ridiculous.

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Yeah.

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And another thing I wanted to say was that a lot of people have...

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And this is something that happened last time, too.

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And it's very kind of people.

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A lot of people were requesting to help with postage and stuff.

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Of course.

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Particularly these Scots and other international wonks.

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Right, right, right.

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And that is very appreciated and nice.

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But I like to do this as a gift to people.

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And so there's no need to donate.

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There's no need to give anything.

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But if you do feel so inclined to...

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Because I also don't want to be disrespectful to people's generosity.

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Obviously not.

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We have started another GoFundMe.

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This one benefiting the Transgender Law Center.

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It is over on GoFundMe.

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A little button theme to it.

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Let's put a button on the Dreamy Creamy Summer.

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The pun was too good, my friend.

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All right, I knew it, I knew it.

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So we've got a link to that.

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We'll put it up in the show release today.

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Excellent, yes.

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Item number 7,000 in the case against us being good with money.

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Yes.

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Yeah, there we go.

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Yeah, it would be great if you wanted to chip into that donation for a good cause.

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That would be lovely.

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How about you?

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What's your price point?

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My price point...

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You're not making buttons?

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I offered my help, sir.

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True.

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Now, obviously with the knowledge that it would be rejected, I can't...

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Yeah, yeah.

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My bright spot is at SpockandDaw on Twitter.

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Sent me a bound version of my book with a beautiful cover and it was bound with love

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and inside it was actually my book.

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It wasn't like a cover.

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It wasn't a dummy.

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No, it was kind of surprising and amazing.

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And as a writer, I feel like the only way I can kind of express how I feel

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would be the word indescribable.

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I thought it was gonna be through song.

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No, nope.

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But yeah, it's incredible.

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It's something I never thought I would ever see and it's...

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Yeah.

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I told you this when that came in.

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Yep.

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I told you that for the last couple months, I have been planning to get you a bound copy.

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Yeah, I know.

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Our friend Angela Lampsbury had designed a cover for it and everything.

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We were...

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You conspired against me.

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And I kept forgetting.

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And well...

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At SpockandDaw beat you to it.

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Right.

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And they also sent some empty notebooks that are really cool for me.

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So thank you from me as well.

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Yes.

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Fantastic stuff.

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Indeed.

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Yep.

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So Jordan, today we have an episode to go over.

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Excellent.

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Two of them.

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Oh.

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We're gonna be talking about August 21st and 22nd 2022.

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All right.

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How do you do?

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Oh, okay.

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These are Sunday and Monday.

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And the reason that we're going to this day is because Sunday evening in Russia time,

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which would have been during the day here, Alexander Dugan's daughter was killed in a car

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bombing.

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Right.

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Right, right, right.

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And as we know, Alex is somebody who has had Dugan on his show and has been on his show

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in Russia.

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And so I think a lot of people are pretty curious to see how this was responded to.

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Sure.

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They might be underwhelmed.

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Have they ever not been?

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Yeah.

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So we'll get into that here, Jordan.

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But first, let's say a little hello to some new walks.

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Oh, that's great idea.

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So first, the Wayback Machine's faulty server.

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Thank you so much.

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You are now policy walk.

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I'm a policy one.

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Thank you very much.

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I go next.

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If you can pronounce them a Sarah, you can pronounce my name Sarah.

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Thank you so much.

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You're now policy walk.

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I'm a policy one.

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I'm not sure I can pronounce that.

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It's where Wonder Woman's from.

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Uh, the Miss Sarah.

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So wait, what?

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So it might be.

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I don't know.

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Yep.

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I can't pronounce anything.

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Next, Juice Pants.

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Thank you so much.

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You're now policy walk.

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I'm a policy walk.

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Thank you very much.

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You nailed Juice Pants.

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Yeah, I can pronounce that.

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Nailed Juice Pants.

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Next, Smorgasbun's Guten Tits.

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Thank you so much.

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You're now policy walk.

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I'm a policy walk.

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Thank you very much.

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Next, Here I Thun Dubai.

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Thank you so much.

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You are now policy walk.

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I'm a policy walk.

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Thank you very much.

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I had a I had a phonetic explanation that I still think I got it wrong.

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I understand.

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Next, help.

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I think my cat's homophobic.

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Thank you so much.

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You are now policy walk.

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I'm a policy walk.

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Thank you very much.

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I assure you they're not.

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Yeah.

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Next, and we had a technocrat in the mix.

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Next is a technocrat.

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Look, we're a little bit behind.

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Hey, it's going great.

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We're a little bit behind on these.

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But Karissa, happy fourth anniversary from Marcus.

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There it was.

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No little breakies for us.

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Thank you so much.

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You are now a technocrat.

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I'm a policy walk.

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I have risen above my enemies.

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I might quit tomorrow, actually.

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I'm just going to take a little break.

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You know, a little breaky for me.

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And then we're going to come back and I'm going to start the show over.

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But I'm the devil.

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I got to be taken over here.

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I've been all this.

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Fuck you.

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Fuck you.

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I got plenty of words for you, but at the end of the day, fuck you and your New World

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Order and fuck the horse you rode in on and all your shit.

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Maybe today should be my last broadcast.

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I mean, maybe I'll just be gone a month, maybe five years.

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Maybe I'll walk out of here tomorrow and you never see me again.

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That's really what I want to do.

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I never want to come back here again.

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I apologize to the crew and the listeners yesterday that I was legitimately having breakdowns

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on air.

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I'll be better tomorrow.

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He's not.

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Oh, happy anniversary.

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I appreciate the anniversaries because, you know, with so many anniversary requests for

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a lot of people, they're like, oh, I know when it's going to come.

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You know, it's going to come on the day of our anniversary.

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But in this case, it's a surprise to both of you.

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You know, you never know when we're going to wish you a happy anniversary.

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No, you might have been expecting it to come months later.

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Yeah, absolutely.

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Yeah, it's always a shock.

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Yeah.

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So here we start and Alex does get to the news of the car bombing right out of the gate.

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Alexander Dugan has been on our broadcast before.

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I've been on some of his shows in Russia and he is a Russian nationalist, not a fascist,

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as our corporate controlled media has said.

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And in the lead up to this open proxy war with the Russians in Ukraine, he could pull

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up the news articles with Republican and Democrat senators and others like Lindsey Graham calling

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for the assassination of Vladimir Putin and people like Alexander Dugan.

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So Alex is telling on himself a little bit in the way that this defense of Dugan begins

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with him saying that Dugan's been on his show and Alex has been on Dugan's broadcast in Russia.

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Well, this is a person who likes Alex and Alex likes him.

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And by definition, Alex doesn't like fascists and they don't like him.

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So Dugan couldn't possibly be one.

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That simple.

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He's just a good old fashioned nationalist.

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I mean, except that Alex does like fascists.

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Quite a bit.

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Yeah.

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In reality, Dugan is an ultra nationalist and someone who's staunchly in favor of a

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return to Russian imperialism.

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I don't want to quibble about whether or not his ideas would strictly be called fascistic,

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like in an academic setting.

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It's fair enough to say that he's pretty much in the ballpark.

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You know what?

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When you go with warmonger and fascist, I really don't feel like there's that much

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of a difference at the end of the day.

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And there are distinctions, but I know what you mean.

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Yeah.

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For those who have not heard the news, on Sunday, August 21st, Dugan's daughter Dario

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was killed in a car bomb attack while leaving an event she attended that night called Tradition.

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In the aftermath, Russian intelligence has blamed forces from Ukraine while Ukraine has

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denied all involvement.

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Others have suggested that the attack was carried out by fringe groups within Russia

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or possibly even the Russian intelligence services themselves.

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Sure.

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Ultimately, it's very much unknown at this point who did it, and it may be something

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that's never really nailed down concretely.

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We may never know.

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Let's just back up and let's spread out and let's take a larger view here.

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I'll tell you who did it.

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Someone who declared war.

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Someone who is up to no good.

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That's what I would suggest is if you declare war.

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You know who did it?

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A car bomber.

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I mean, well, yeah, but I mean, if Putin declares war and then bombings start happening, it's

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like you're at war, man.

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Like you earned it.

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That's how it goes.

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I feel like you don't get to be mad about it.

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I can see your perspective.

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I'm less interested.

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Like from what I was saying, I'm less interested in that position of it and more like who knows

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who did it.

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Oh, God knows.

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You know, like that is going to be a discussion that a lot of people are having, especially

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people like Alex.

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Right.

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You know, it's the was it this side or that side or whatever.

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What you're saying is the all's fair and love and war kind of.

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I mean, I'm not saying all's fair.

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I'm just saying that it takes two to tango.

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Sure.

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Yeah, sure.

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So I wanted to take this opportunity, though, here to call myself out for some of the coverage

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of Dugan back when he was on Alex's show, Circa 2017.

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I'll stand by my statements that it was a really big deal that that crossover was happening,

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but I think I probably was too credulous of the media stories that I was reading at the

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time that painted Dugan as being much more connected to Putin and the official government

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channels that he may actually be.

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I'm not entirely sure how much of that is real, that like he's he's, you know, really

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influential and how much of it is bluster.

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And if I were approaching the show the same way that I am now back then, I probably would

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have presented it a little bit differently.

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I still would have presented their collaboration as troubling, though, because whether or not

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Dugan is closely associated with Putin, he's definitely associated with international far

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right extremists.

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In 2018, Lauren Southern posted an image of herself and Dugan meeting.

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And this was back when Lauren was making completely fraudulent documentaries meant to demonize

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immigrants and was going on adventures to intercept migrant boats, along with members

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of Generation Identity, a group with links to the guy who carried out the shooting at

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that mosque in Christchurch.

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Right.

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And also going on tour with Stefan Molyneux.

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Right, right, right.

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What she refers to as the good old days.

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Yeah, this wasn't her like meeting with Dugan in her now softer, like Glenn Beck in a sweater

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with Samantha B.S. rebrand she's trying to pull off.

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Yeah.

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Fellow anti-immigrant agitator Brittany Pettibone was along with Southern for her trip to meet

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Dugan. Incidentally, Pettibone would go on to marry Generation Identity leader Martin

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Selner, whose home was raided after it was revealed that the Christchurch shooter had

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donated a disproportionately high amount to his group.

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Great.

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Weird, too, that a guy from New Zealand would make a large donation to a random bigot group

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in Austria without having any connections to them.

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Yeah, it's so odd.

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There are other connections, but even beyond that, the influence Dugan has had on a lot

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of the ascending far right figures is something that matters, given his belief set.

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As he wrote in his book Foundations of Geopolitics, quote,

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It is essentially important to introduce geopolitical disorder into internal American

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activity, encouraging all kinds of separatism and ethnic, social, and racial conflicts,

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actively supporting all dissident movements, extremist, racist, and sectarian groups,

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thus destabilizing internal political processes in the United States.

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Naturally.

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This is a book that's been promoted by people like Jack Pessobek and Richard Spencer,

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who are probably not coincidentally figures who are working to introduce geopolitical

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disorder into internal American activity and encouraging all kinds of separatism.

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Yeah, it is weird how that worked out.

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Weird.

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Yeah.

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Anyway, the point is that it's still super fucked up that Alex feels this kinship with

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Dugan and that they've been on each other's show.

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But I was, I think, in hindsight, a little bit off base with how connected I believed

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him to be to Putin when I talked about him before.

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Sure.

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And he's not come up necessarily in any large way, but I've been meaning to address that

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Right.

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in some fashion.

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Well, I mean, it's regularly reported of him that he's the philosophical architect of

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the current Russian imperialist strategy.

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Yeah.

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So you could say that, you know, oh, he's well connected in the inner circle, but that's

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not quite the same thing as being socially and so forth connected in that way.

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And it's tough to say, really.

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I've heard enough counter report of that, and I've also heard from some listeners who

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are in Russia who, or even just in the surrounding area, who have a very different take in terms

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of what his position is vis-a-vis Putin.

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Well, it's not hard to think that we can attribute that to him and have it have nothing to do

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with him, actually.

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What is the difference between some dude writing that and Putin just being like, hey, you know

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what's a good idea?

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Fucking up America.

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Like, it's not that complicated of a strategy.

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It's just going in there and wrecking shit.

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Right, right.

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You know?

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It's the difference between being on the same page and someone having your ear.

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Exactly.

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And there is a difference to it.

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Yeah, absolutely.

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Some of it is fundamentally, the effect of it may be the same.

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Sure, sure.

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But yeah, so anyway, Alex is mad at the media coverage.

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Oh, of course.

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Of this year's story.

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And it's because people are suggesting maybe it was a false flag.

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And that's Alex's turf.

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So the idea that in the Moscow suburbs, less than a day ago, his daughter driving back

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in his car, he was another vehicle.

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The idea that he or Putin would blow up his own daughter is preposterous.

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But the London Telegraph, the BBC, US News, they're running the headlines.

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It's a false flag.

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So I supposedly lose 40 something million dollar rigged lawsuits for questioning events

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saying they could be staged or fake or the system targeting itself.

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But London Telegraph and others can say it.

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Whoa, Nelly.

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Just don't talk about it anymore.

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Why is this complicated?

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I don't know.

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It's insane.

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I can confirm that at least the Telegraph suggested that the attack was possibly a false

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flag meant to incite the public into supporting further hostilities in Ukraine.

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I'm not sure if that was the widespread media theory, and many folks who are actually suggesting

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that the attack might have been carried out by Russian actors have specifically speculated

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that it could have been the work of a group unaligned with Putin.

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Right, right, right, right.

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Somebody who's...

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Some dissident group within Russia.

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Let's take a crack at somebody that we think is a target.

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There are a number of suggestions that people have had, and the argument that Alex is making

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where it's like a lot of people are coming out and saying that it was Dugan blowing up

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his own daughter.

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Right, right, right.

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It's like, I don't know how widespread a belief that is.

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It's just fundamentally where it's unfair.

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Alex doesn't get to say shit right now.

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Unfair.

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It's, yeah.

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I mean, it falls a little on deaf ears.

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Yeah.

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And he isn't getting sued for suggesting that something could be a false flag or for

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questioning an event.

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If that were possible, he would be getting sued every day.

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He defamed people, which isn't the same thing.

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Also, I'm not sure what defamation laws are like in Russia, but based on the U.S. standard,

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Dugan and his daughter are definitely public figures, so talking about the possibility

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that the attack could have been a false flag wouldn't rise to the level of actual malice

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required to be defamation against them, which is one of the reasons why Alex doesn't get

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sued for all the shit he talks about celebrities and public figures.

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Yeah.

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So, and I wouldn't worry too much about the defamation laws in Russia.

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You know, their laws currently are on the more like, if we want to get you, we got you

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kind of side of the justice thing, you know?

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Yeah.

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It's defamation may be handled differently.

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It could be, could be.

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So the Russians, Alex has been monitoring how the news reports are going there.

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Naturally.

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And they are not happy.

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Okay.

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Well, why would they be?

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Looked at the national Russian news, they're hopping mad at Putin.

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They're pissed that a suburb could be bombed and that this journalist and talk show host,

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his daughter was also very prominent.

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Daria.

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Do you know, I guess in Russia, they add a, a, when the last name's too feminine.

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Sure.

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The father is the blown up daughter and wild.

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They're saying Alexander Dugan blew his daughter up.

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But no proof, but that's okay.

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Cause they're mainstream media.

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The truth is you're allowed to question anything you want.

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You can say his daughter in debt if you want.

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Maybe you're wrong.

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Maybe you're right.

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The point is, is that you have a right to question.

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They have a right to put this out.

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They're just saying you don't have a right to question.

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They're right back.

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Stay with us.

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Alex seems to be making this about himself a little bit.

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I was going to say that the number one thing that I should have expected was that this

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is about Alex.

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Yep.

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And somehow I was still like, like so many of our listeners, I was like, I wonder what

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Alex's thoughts on this are.

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No, I knew what they were.

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They were, Alex was right about everything.

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It's strange too, because Alex is the victim.

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Yeah.

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Because really the, the actual bombing seems like something Alex could use to be like,

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nationalists are under attack everywhere.

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It's, it's a sweet spot for it.

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It's right there.

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But instead it's about the media coverage because he can relate it to himself.

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I know.

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It's very.

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It is sad.

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Yeah.

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It is sad whenever he feels defensive, it always comes back to him.

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He's got material to work with on this.

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And therapy.

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Well, he's definitely got that to work through.

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I think that, you know, mental illness works in a certain way and sort of behavioral patterns

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and issues.

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And once you become sort of beholden to them and they control you, things become a little

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less interesting.

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And Alex's narcissism is definitely taken over.

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So speaking of that narcissism, but he was clearly the target because he's the populist

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of Russia.

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He's the Alex Jones of Russia and mainstream news has said that over the years.

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Yeah, I'm sorry.

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What Russia, the populace, the popular talk show host that has like half the country tuning

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into him, he's dead.

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His daughter's dead.

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They want to make sure he dies.

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The globalist had the motive to kill him, do they?

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No, Alex is describing himself once again.

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The globalist wants to kill me through Alexander Dugan.

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Not only is he like Alexander Dugan is a target, but it is also that Alex is a target through

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Alexander Dugan.

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And in fact, the globalists were trying to send Alex a message that anyone can be got.

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Well, I mean, why would the globalists in Alex's conception have the motive to do this?

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It doesn't make sense.

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Like obviously they don't want Russia in Ukraine.

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Sure.

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So no, no, they want the Ukraine to join NATO.

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Sure, sure, sure.

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Right, right, right, right.

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So they want even Russia out of Crimea, out of the Donbas.

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They want to get rid of Putin entirely.

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They want him assassinated.

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Yeah, yeah, the whole thing.

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And so do you think that working towards that end, do you think it's progressed by bombing

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someone who's seen as an associate of his?

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Right.

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Like, is it something that Putin's gonna be like, oh, shit's too hot now?

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Sure, sure, sure.

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Maybe it's a dry run.

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Maybe they're checking their Ocean's Elevening practice.

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I don't see that.

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Can we car bomb anybody?

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Like, how do we car bomb, you know?

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I think that's...

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And now I'm going to throw this one at you.

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That's a tough one.

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I'm going to throw this one out at you, and I feel like a lot of people are going to laugh

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at me, but I'm going to have to go with IRA.

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They have a proven track record of this type of thing.

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Talking about steak knife?

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I'm just saying that it's in their wheelhouse, and maybe they just got a little bit bored,

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you know?

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The troubles haven't been as hot lately.

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Well, according to Alex, that's all the globalist.

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That's right.

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Damn it.

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So they hired IRA mercs.

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Now it all makes sense.

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Now it's all coming together.

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I guess when your explanations are hyper simple, they always fit.

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They do.

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They do.

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So look, this is not a false flag, and Alex explains why.

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Okay.

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And you could say maybe Putin did this because he knows Dugan's a big nationalist to get

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Russians behind the war.

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Except if you know the climate in Russia, they're angry.

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The average Russian in the polls like 90% that Putin isn't doing more in Ukraine, and

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that's why the population there pushed Putin into responding to the NATO proxy war that's

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been going on for eight, almost nine years that George Soros brags he helped orchestrate.

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Isn't that actually an argument for why Putin could have done it?

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Yeah.

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Because then he would have a pretext to do the thing that the people want him to do.

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Right.

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Yeah.

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I mean, the FSB blames it on Ukrainian actors, Ukrainian terrorists.

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Well, then guess what?

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Right.

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And Alex is convoluted here.

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This makes no sense.

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I mean, this is the problem, because just yesterday, I mean, on our last episode, we're

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talking about Alex saying, I pigheadedly did something precisely because other people told

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me not to do it.

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And we're seeing an example of him just being like, I'm not going to call it a false flag

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because they called it a false flag.

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How about that, dick wads?

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And it's not fair.

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And calling it a false flag would require him to say that Putin is willing to do something

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like that.

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Sure, sure.

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And then he'd have to admit that Putin has done something like that.

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Well, while he was saying that Putin wasn't going to invade Ukraine right before Putin

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invaded Ukraine, Alex was saying that Russia never does false flags, not once.

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It's true.

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So he can't go back on that.

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Yeah, yeah, but that's your moment.

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That's your moment to really pull it out and be like, surprise, this is the first Russian

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false flag.

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Nah, okay.

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So maybe it's a false flag.

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Maybe it's not.

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Who knows?

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But everybody should be able to ask questions.

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But he's not.

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Let me just say this briefly.

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We're going to come back and talk about this more.

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I don't think this is a false flag, but the CIA had things like Operation Northwoods,

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where CIA operatives and their families would get on the plane with one tell number.

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They'd blow up another plane with the same tell number.

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Those families would all just change their names and use that as a pretext to go to war

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with Cuba and then Russia.

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Sure.

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Look up Operation Northwoods, ABC News, NBC News, they've all covered it.

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So these things exist.

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Did he stage the death of his daughter?

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Is she still alive?

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Did she change her name?

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I'm sorry, what?

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I think that's the case.

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But you have a right to say that.

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And you have a right to speculate.

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And that's what all these lawsuits against Infowars, everybody you're about is silencing

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that discussion.

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Robert Barnes is coming up to cover the water.

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No!

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Good Lord.

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Yep, real disappointing end.

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But this is evidence that that is true.

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Alex is describing a true thing.

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You can question this exact thing.

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That is the evidence that we are experiencing is that the telegraph did question this thing.

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So you are not being sued.

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Thus, we can concretely prove that it is not for this reason that Alex is being sued.

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Well, Alex is also bandying about ideas that maybe she faked her death.

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There is that.

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And no one cares.

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There is that.

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No one cares.

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No one cares.

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Yeah.

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If she did fake her death, that would be an interesting conspiracy.

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Yeah.

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I look forward to Alex bringing that out around the midterms.

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Maybe she just wanted emancipation from her dad, but she couldn't get it in Russia because

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he's too closely connected to Putin.

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Now she's free.

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That could be.

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I think so.

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So we have one last clip here from the 21st, from Sunday.

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Okay.

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As Alex said, Bobby Barnes.

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We're not doing Bobby Barnes.

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He comes in and rolls solo.

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Alex leaves.

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Alex is just in for the first segment or two of the show.

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Great.

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But he explains a little bit about his bankruptcy here.

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And I think this is pretty interesting.

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All right.

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But let me talk about the lawsuits against us.

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There are dozens of types of bankruptcy.

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We've done chapter five, which is reorganization, survival for a business.

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So the business can continue on and quote, pay its debts in the last few hearings.

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This is going to be coming out.

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They have the plaintiff's lawyers and Soros's lawyers with the big law firm out of Houston

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in the meetings saying we want it seized and shut down.

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We don't want the money.

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And of course, federal law says the judge is supposed to keep it going quote for the

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creditors, but they don't want money from judgment.

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You understand?

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And we knew they do that.

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We're showing that right now.

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That's why as long as we have solvent numbers to pay the employees, keep the lights on,

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run the operation, the federal judge will look at that for a year and then say, OK,

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over the next five years, here's what you can pay.

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And that's what they get.

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And we stay on air.

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Federal courts already seen my books.

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They know I haven't paid myself in a year and a half.

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They know I've injected 10 million dollars.

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Everything I got into this operation, all the emergency savings, the senior real books

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. And the court's eyes are getting real big right now in these meetings where they're

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like, we want them shut down.

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We want their.

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No, we don't want money for electricity.

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We want it closed.

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You're like, wait, you're creditors.

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Don't you want money for the plaintiffs?

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The families are nothing but puppets they're using and controlling.

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I'm sorry.

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But that's what this is all about, and they will not silence us if you simply buy the

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products at Infowars store dot com.

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Wow.

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So that might be a new defamation.

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I mean, how do you not play that in the we need to shut them down hearing part of like,

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hey, this is never going to stop.

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This is just never going to listen to this.

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This was yesterday.

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Guess what?

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I'm going to I'm going to call it now.

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I'm going to call my shot within the next week.

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I will have another clip for you of him breaking these rules.

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I'm calling.

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I'm pointing to the left field fence, man.

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Maybe by the end of this episode.

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Exactly.

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So I don't know everything about bankruptcy law, but from everything I can tell, this

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is not a plan that's going to work for Alex.

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For one thing, Chapter five is only available to businesses that have less than seven point

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five million dollars in debt.

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And if he's trying to bankrupt free speech systems, they owe like 50 million dollars

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to Alex's dad's shell company.

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And the judgment in the Sandy Hook case, the first one exceeded that amount already.

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Additionally, this debt limit only applies if 50 percent or more of the company's debt

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is business related, which doesn't include defamation judgments.

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Also, the only reason that the cap is seven point five million as opposed to the original

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limit that this subchapter had, the original limit was two point seven five million.

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The only reason that's different is because of the CARES Act, which Alex was staunchly

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against.

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Of course.

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Chapter five is a subchapter of Chapter 11 bankruptcy or the reorganization bankruptcy.

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It seems pretty clear to me why Alex chose this route, and it's because Chapter five

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bankruptcy cases specifically do not require a business to file a full disclosure statement

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to the court.

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Oh, that would make sense.

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Let's choose the one that lets us hide our lies.

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Yes, because the the thing is that Chapter five, they they were it was created because

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Chapter 11 normal bankruptcies require all kinds of information.

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And small businesses were what Chapter five was made for.

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And they were in a position that, like, usually are ill-equipped to handle the intricacies

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of a normal reorganization.

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Right.

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Under Chapter 11.

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Part of their debt is that they can't afford an incredibly expensive accountant to help

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them actually do the stuff that they're supposed to do.

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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Too often, small businesses weren't able to take advantage of what they could get with

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a Chapter 11 reorganization and they just end up going out of business.

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So this was an attempt to provide an option for them to stay afloat.

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Right.

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Alex is basically attempting to abuse the bankruptcy system, and while he's doing it,

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he's using the illusion of his persecution to sell his dumb products to the audience.

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The good news is that he probably doesn't qualify for Chapter five.

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And as this progresses through the court, we'll see what happens.

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But I don't think that based on what I can find, I don't think that he is going to work.

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I mean, sometimes I really do think I understand that the court system does work slow and needs

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to.

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But God damn it, for this case, I really feel like every day you should go in, you should

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play the judge a clip and be like, see, this option's off the table.

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He said it, right?

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Done.

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Okay.

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Then tomorrow you bring in a clip like, we should have this whole thing banged out in

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like a week.

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Well, actually, the Chapter five subsection or subchapter is designed to be faster.

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Right.

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So there is that.

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There is that.

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At least they'll go faster.

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Right.

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How many chapters are there is a question I guarantee Alex has asked and then asked,

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can we just keep using them?

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Can I write another one?

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Yeah.

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How about another chapter?

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So we get to the 22nd.

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We get to Monday's show because I felt like, well, we have not really even scratched the

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surface of, you know, the Dugan assassination attempt.

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No, we've scratched Alex's surface.

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A little, but he's got to have more to say.

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You would hope.

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There's big news coming today.

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Okay.

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Big broadcast ahead of Ellen Schroyer, 3 p.m.

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Central, always informative on the war room.

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All right.

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When we come back, still a long time to break.

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But when we come back, wait, why?

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Elon Musk has put out his most important tweet yet.

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Dear God.

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No, no, no, no, no.

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Can't handle it.

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I got to go.

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Oh, good.

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You know what it's like to turn on a show and hear that?

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I do now.

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I do now.

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What the fuck?

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Okay.

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All right.

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Okay.

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2022.

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Let's call it down.

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It's one thing if you're pretending to be like TMZ.

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Sure.

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And this is your lead.

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Right, right, right.

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Then, hey, that's what you are.

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That's, you're a clickbait.

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Oh, the top 43 tweets by Elon Musk and this is today's.

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Yeah, whatever.

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But Alex pretends to be like, I'm the most geopolitically important person in the world.

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Oh, man.

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World leaders listen to me.

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Oh, Elon Musk had a good tweet.

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I mean, can you think of Edward R.

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Murrow being like, oh, the Rockefellers put out a chalk drawing on the sidewalk.

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Like, what are you talking about?

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Something pithy at a bar.

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Alex is the Algonquin round table of his time.

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That is true.

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So, look, there's a lot of news.

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Sure.

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Not just the tweet.

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There's a lot of news.

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Well, well.

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We have the execution, assassination of Alexander Dugan's daughter when they were trying to

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kill him.

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What that really signifies, massive economy news, so much on the great reset and more

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today.

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This is another broadcast.

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Busy day.

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I don't want to miss.

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But separately, here is the good news.

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Freedom is popular.

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This book with no advertising in the corporate media has gone to number five.

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It fluctuates between that and the top hundred on Amazon.com.

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The number one book platform in the world.

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It's the equivalent of the New York Times bestseller list before they got caught rigging

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in the last 20 years.

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So nobody looks at it or believes it anymore.

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It's totally fake.

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The Amazon chart is 100% real in the top 10 off and on for several weeks.

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And you see, this is the actual book.

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It is here.

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It's ready to ship, ladies and gentlemen.

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And I can tell you that there are a few thousand books left at info war store com until a new

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order comes in.

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But for the time being, the new this will be the only signed books I do.

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And it's a fundraiser.

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Keep us on air.

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It's absolutely critical.

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I want to thank all of you that went and got the signed fundraiser copy of the book.

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It's a piece of history.

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It's the Death Star plan.

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The great reset the war for the world is your last chance to get a signed copy at info war

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store com.

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And it is a fundraiser we're doing.

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So thank you so much for your support.

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The great reset the war for the world is my Magnum Opus.

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It is a masterwork.

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Wild.

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Just absolutely devastatingly lays out how evil and sick these people are.

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What about reset wars?

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Let me ask you a bigger and greater question.

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All right.

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In the book, how does he spell evil?

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Evil.

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I have two things I want to bring up about this.

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Okay.

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The first thing is that, man, he's making Bezos a lot of money.

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He sure is.

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So I hope he's happy about that.

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Hey, the Amazon charts are real, at least, Dan.

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Not like the lies of the New York Times.

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Yeah.

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And then the second thing I was thinking about, he's not going to sign all these books.

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No.

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But if he does, he's going to be drinking while he does it.

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It's going to get progressively sloppier as he goes along.

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We need that flow chart to really show up.

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Yeah.

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I want the last book.

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Oh, it's just a black page.

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I kind of want to know, did someone edit it?

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That's what I want to know.

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Yeah.

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But I mean, here's what I'm talking about, right?

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He didn't even write anything.

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He didn't write it.

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According to what he said about it.

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Right.

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He dictated it, supposedly.

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Or at least he was scrapped from his show.

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Right.

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Right.

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Not even necessarily dictated, just people transcribed his rants.

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Right, right, right.

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But they cut out the rambling, right?

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There's no way that it's going to go that.

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I kind of want to read it, just in case.

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I'm going to read it.

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It doesn't come out until the 30th.

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Well, it's already rocketed to the top of the charts.

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It's the best.

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Kind of like how Alex's War was at the top of the charts,

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and then no one cared as soon as it came out.

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Well, but at least that was true whenever nobody cared.

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Uh-huh.

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Yeah.

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Not even the New York Times.

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I'm going to guess no one's going to care when Alex's book comes out,

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but we will definitely cover it in great detail.

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Obviously.

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Come on.

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And you know what I was thinking about doing?

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What?

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I was thinking about doing a great reset special.

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So what I would do is I would take Alex's book, The Great Reset.

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Sure.

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Compare it to Klaus Schwab's book, The Great Reset.

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Well, word count?

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And Glenn Beck's book, The Great Reset.

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Ah, that's trouble.

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Try and see where we're at with the three of them, where there's overlaps.

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Sure.

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Who's making up what?

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Here's what I say we do.

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First off, what we're going to do is we're going to cut out little passages from each book,

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and then glue them together, and then take that message and mail it to Alex.

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So it sounds like we're holding one of his children hostage.

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Ah, see?

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We're holding the ecosystem hostage.

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Yeah, exactly.

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Yeah.

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If you don't reset, we'll come get you.

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So look, the big news.

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Yeah.

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Musk tweet.

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Biggest tweet ever.

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It's big.

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Most important?

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I know for a fact, and I told you this a couple of years ago,

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that Elon Musk was riding the fence,

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and that he decided to fight the New World Order.

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At least he told his top advisors that,

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and said he was going for a pro-human future.

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South African, white nationalist, what?

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And to fight the New World Order.

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Now, whether he's being legitimate or not, Christ says you judge a tree by its fruits.

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Look what Elon tweeted out yesterday.

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Got hundreds of thousands of retweets.

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Elon Musk, here's the actual image.

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Please let me use the CERN Large Hadron Collider.

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I'm normal and can be trusted with the demonic technology,

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unlike anything the world has ever seen.

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What is a demonic technology?

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Well, they admit they're trying to find the God particle.

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All right.

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They admit they're trying to create artificial black holes and strangelets

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that create particles so strong it sinks the center of the earth

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and then creates a black hole that implodes the entire planet.

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It's not a Star Trek movie, it's reality.

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So this is not an important tweet.

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It's basically Musk shitposting.

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Yeah.

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Also CERN isn't trying to create a black hole to implode the universe.

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And they found confirmation of the existence of the Higgs boson,

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AKA the God particle.

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Ten years ago.

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In 2013.

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Yeah, a decade ago.

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It's old.

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God particle was a great day.

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I was really excited.

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I watched the live stream.

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It was really, really cool.

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Yeah.

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Alex has not updated his talking points in quite a while.

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Nope.

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You know what else Christ said of people similar to Elon Musk?

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He was like, you know, it's easier for a rich guy to go through heaven.

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It's awesome.

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Rich people are the best.

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Come on in, buddies.

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I will make the head of the needle really large if he promises to have tons of white babies.

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Oh, he opened the large Hadron Collider. Jesus.

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His words are different now.

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Oh, no, Mandela effect.

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Yes, the Bible is entirely different.

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That's a Mandela effect.

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Is that a movie?

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I hope so.

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Wait, isn't that knowing?

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No, no, no, no.

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Okay.

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Quite different.

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So look, CERN dangerous.

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It blew up a few years ago.

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The last time they tried it.

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Now they're doing a test again.

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You didn't hear while they're doing the test.

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They're constantly doing satanic rituals above ground on facilities acreage.

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So they had a helium leak in 2008.

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I was going to say, I just don't understand how we could get to blow up.

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You don't even.

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I can't begin to describe the news day if the Hadron Collider blew up.

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Yeah, they are doing satanic.

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The satanic rituals that Alex is right on about.

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Well, sure.

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But that's why it doesn't blow up.

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The satanic rituals keep it stable.

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Otherwise you can't shoot particles that fast.

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With great ritual comes great particle.

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Way to go with that.

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Yeah, there are all winners when I say things.

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Hey, listen, we can't all hit it to the left field fence.

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So there's big news.

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My man Fauci, Dr. Faustus, he has decided to resign.

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Good for him.

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All right, here it is.

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Dr. Fauci has issued his resignation letter after 40 plus years,

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running different federal agencies, murdering people,

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blocking treatments, engaged in HIV rollout.

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The Wuhan lab, this murderous, discredited monster.

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This Hitler 2.0, this Bill Gates prosthesis.

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What?

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Has now resigned.

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What does that one mean?

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I'm announcing today that I've been stepping down.

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Is that Alexander Dugan?

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Director of the National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases

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and chief of NIAID laboratory of immunization,

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as well as the position of chief medical advisor to President Joe Biden.

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I will be leaving these positions in December of this year to pursue the next chapter.

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Getting some Arnold now.

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He now wants everybody to take polio shots again.

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That impression was so inconsistent.

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It was all over the place.

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That was all over the place.

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I got, I got, uh, uh, what name? How many did we get?

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I got Kissinger in there.

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But it was also like shifting mid-sentence.

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Right.

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He was trying to find his bearings and he didn't get there.

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Never found it.

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That's, that's depressing from one of the greatest voice actors of our time,

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who was offered the role of Optimus Prime.

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Everything.

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Everything.

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But then he criticized Obama and they said, no.

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They couldn't let him be Star-Lord if you criticize Obama.

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That's science.

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Also, the CDC still recommends children get vaccinated against polio.

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Forever.

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There are a number of people who don't take that advice.

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And most likely due to low vaccination rates in some areas,

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we recently saw the identification of a case of polio in Rockland County, New York.

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Experts believe that if they're seeing one case,

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there's a very high likelihood that there are more people who have caught it in the area,

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but maybe asymptomatic, which is a terrifying prospect.

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Yeah.

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The US has a vaccination rate for polio of 93%, whereas Rockland County is at about 60.

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Anyway, this is not good and probably won't be the last we hear of this story,

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but let's hope for the best.

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Jesus.

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Alex is ready to handle the news of a possible resurgence of polio though,

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since he'll just say that it's secretly COVID vaccine side effects being called polio.

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And then he'll fleece his audience,

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selling them survival food as he watches them get sick and die.

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This is kind of what his business model has largely evolved into after COVID.

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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And I don't even have to just speculate on that.

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You know, we told you that climate was polio when you got paralysis from the poison shots

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and the record levels of heart attacks will be detailing next hour.

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So it's just, he's already ready.

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I think the number one thing I applaud Fauci for is retiring with dignity because I'll be

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goddamned if I didn't quit that job with the single largest fuck you to America anybody's ever.

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Like nobody has earned the right to give the double bird on TV to the entire United States

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of America more than Fauci.

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It's, um, he might have a scathing book.

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Yeah.

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I would, I mean, just give up.

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That's the name of Fauci's book.

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Give up on hope.

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Yeah.

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So, uh, we get to the second hour of the program and Alex isn't there for the first break.

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They just play special reports, which happens from time to time.

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No, it's not on the radio.

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Right.

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Who gives a shit?

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Yeah, yeah.

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Second segment starts.

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And I noticed that it seemed that, uh, InfoWars had switched to an instrumental jazz format.

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Interesting.

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And now the works of Antonio Carlos Chopin.

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It's the most dangerous vaccine ever created by man.

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It is a saved by the bed.

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Dan, I was confused as I've ever been.

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It goes on for a long time.

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Don't let's listen to all of it.

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I don't know what was going on there.

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There was some sort of a technical difficulty.

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But this is the feed that goes out on the radio.

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Yeah, let's all go to the lobby started playing, I believe.

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Yeah, elevator music on InfoWars.

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It's great.

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So I don't know what the fuck was happening, but Steve Kirsch is on.

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Alex is an anti-vax sub-stack buddy.

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Is it not addressed?

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What?

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No.

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What just happened?

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No, I don't think Alex notices.

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No, but there are further tech difficulties.

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Here we are.

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Steve Kirsch joins us for the balance of the hour.

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But we do have numbers.

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We have insurance company numbers.

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We have government numbers.

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We have them all.

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He has them all in a sub-stack.

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He's going to lay out the facts that now even the CDC saying, okay, the shot doesn't help

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you, doesn't protect you all over the world from Australia to Germany, to the UK, to Canada,

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to the US.

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They're showing that people that had acted are way more likely to actually get sick.

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So their lives are coming out.

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Please lay it out for us.

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Well, it's just like I said on Fox News and, you know, Brian, who was the host, was caught

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off guard.

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And so he said, well, we can't verify those numbers.

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Well, he was actually telling people the truth because Fox News has contractual commitments

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that don't allow them to speak poorly about the vaccine.

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So they can't say anything anti-vax on Fox News.

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That skipping that you heard is on Alex's end.

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That was not our recording.

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So this is a fun semantics game that Steve is playing.

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The Fox News host, Brian Kilmeade, was pointing out that Steve's statistics are completely

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dubious and he can't prove that they're accurate and expresses that by saying we can't confirm

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that.

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Steve naturally doesn't want to accept that he, in fact, can't confirm any of the bullshit

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he spreads.

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So he's using the wording of this comment to create a broader conspiracy.

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Of course, you can't confirm this, Brian Kilmeade.

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You're on the pharma payroll.

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Right, right, right, right.

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If Fox hosts can't be anti-vax, I wonder what happened with Tucker and Hannity.

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And Fox and Friends sometimes.

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See, this is why we need to relax certain language requirements for TV hosts.

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In this situation, you can't say we can't confirm that.

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What you have to say is bullshit directly to his face.

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Well, that's not Kilmeade's best interest.

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No, and I understand that, but I feel like it should be required.

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So I'm not sure what statistic Steve is talking about here because his substack is full of

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posts claiming various bombshell things about COVID vaccines and all of them apparently

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rely on very legitimate data.

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I decided to consult one recent post with the headline, quote, do you know how many

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people have been killed worldwide by their governments from the COVID shots?

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16,000.

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It's around 12 million.

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That's 40 times the number of Americans who were killed in World War II.

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It's more than double the number killed by COVID.

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That seemed intriguing.

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Yeah.

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How was this number reached?

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You're probably asking yourself.

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That's my first question.

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Yeah.

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It seems like an even number, first off.

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Here's how Steve got there.

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Okay.

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Quote, Margaret Anne Alice asked if anyone could estimate the global death toll from

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the COVID shots.

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In my opinion, a reasonable estimate is to divide the number of doses by 1,000.

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If you do that for 600 million doses delivered in the United States, you get 600,000 deaths,

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which is right in the ballpark.

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No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no.

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Yeah.

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You just, you just, he just said it.

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Yeah.

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That's not data.

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That was his, his basis for that number.

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And then you extrapolate that out to the world.

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Right, right, right.

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So I said that, and that means it's true.

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This is Steve expressing an opinion and then making a guess based on entirely nothing.

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Yeah.

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This article is legitimately trash.

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Here's Steve synthesizing his point, which again is just about him guessing things based

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on nothing.

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Quote, we're killing an awful lot of people, but with world, but world leaders are looking

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the other way and saying nothing.

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While all of us watch the high number of death reports in the media of people who died, quote,

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unexpectedly and hear no explanation from the medical community or the CDC, we're supposed

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to trust that they have things well in hand, even though they won't appear on camera in

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front of anyone who doesn't have scripted pre-approved questions.

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The vaccine was never mentioned in any of these unexplained death reports.

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Yet people all over the world have noticed that these unexpected deaths are only happening

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to the vaccinated.

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Hmm.

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I wonder why.

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And I would say what unexpected deaths are you talking about?

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There aren't any specifics offered in the article.

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So I don't know if I agree that there, we even are seeing a huge number of unexpected

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deaths being reported in the media.

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You know what bums me out?

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Cause this is really suspicious.

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Not one of these medical professionals, can we even call them that is the first question,

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but not one of them will go on live TV in a pit filled with a hungry hyenas.

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Not one of them.

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Now, why not, Dan, why not?

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And what are they afraid of, Dan?

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You're right.

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Exactly.

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I'm taken aback by your logic.

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It's you, you can't deny it.

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Makes total sense.

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It does.

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There are occasionally like celebrities who die with no immediate cause of death determined.

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And then these anti-vax idiots rush in to pretend it was a vaccine death.

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But typically in all of those cases, a death cause is determined, but it's after people

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like Steve stop caring about the story.

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Yeah.

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Use it for the immediate dopamine rush of like, hey, get this, this person who you love

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was killed by Fauci.

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Right, right, right.

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It's hard to wait a couple of days to say that though, after the people have already

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figured out the actual reason.

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Yeah, yeah.

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And let me be totally clear about this.

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What?

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Steve Kirsch is a lunatic.

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Yeah.

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This article also includes this passage.

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Quote, we were approaching the 6 million Jews killed in the Holocaust over a period

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of 12 years, but we're killing people worldwide at a rate of at least six times faster than

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the Germans did.

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We're killing nearly close to 10,000 people every day.

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The latest rate was roughly 8.46 million doses a day.

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Interestingly, this is not self-limiting because 385,000 babies are born every day.

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So the killing can go on indefinitely, even if the birth rate drops by 90% due to the

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shots.

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In case you were wondering, I just thought I'd point that out.

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This is complete drivel and it's a bit offensive to boot.

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I feel like we need to really hammer home that this obsession with comparing things

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to the Holocaust is Holocaust minimization, which is a subset of Holocaust denial.

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That's the part I was saying was a bit offensive.

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Yeah, like there's a reason that they are so focused on comparing things to the Holocaust

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to make it feel like the Holocaust wasn't that big a deal after all now, was it?

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Compared to vaccinations.

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Yeah, exactly.

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What?

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Yeah.

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So for one thing about Steve's logic here, 10,000 people aren't being killed by the

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vaccine every day.

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That's just shit talk.

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But beyond that, this supposed killing could not go on indefinitely even if the birth rate

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dropped 90% because the massive societal problems that would accompany that drop in birth rates

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would render 10,000 deaths a day a side issue.

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Yeah.

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Everything would be over.

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Yeah, I don't think, I mean, just the devastation of everything daily.

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Crazy.

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Speaking of statistics, on August 20th, Steve posted a blog entry where he was begging people

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who work at hospitals to provide him with internal data about their numbers of deaths

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and ICU admissions based on vaccination status.

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This is probably illegal for them to divulge, but also whatever results he gets from this

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are completely meaningless.

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He's gathering data through the equivalent of a Google survey form where anyone could

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just enter whatever numbers they want and pretend they work at a hospital.

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Right, right, right.

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But also he's sending out a Google survey form that says, please commit a crime.

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Yes or no.

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That is what he's doing.

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Yeah, but we're all pretending, so it doesn't really matter.

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So it's not really a crime, I understand, but it's a pretend crime.

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Yeah, yeah.

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This data collection form is apparently something he's been using for a while,

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but he's just now updated it so you can enter in hospital level data.

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Before you could enter information about your family and friends or your household

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and how many people were hurt or killed by vaccines in that subgroup.

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Sure, that's nice of him.

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It's probably a fair assumption that he's been treating the responses to this as actual data

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as opposed to him targeting a very strongly self-selected anti-vax community as potential

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responders to his survey, and then having literally zero way to confirm any of the numbers

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people enter into the survey.

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That's what he's doing.

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It's not data.

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It's like VAERS, but in Arkham Asylum.

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Yeah, what would he be?

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What would his villain name be?

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I don't know, I don't know.

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The sub stacker.

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That's not good.

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No, no, no, no.

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The blogger.

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No, that's terrible.

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Well, so all of the information that he's putting out means exactly nothing, but it's

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the kind of thing that can be used to create an impression that it's something more legitimate

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and more scholarly than just apocryphal anecdotes that the anti-vax community has.

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That's what they usually rely on, these anecdotal stories.

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Of course.

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And this is a way that he can sort of mold those anecdotes into numbers and it gives

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the appearance of it meaning something more than just a tweet.

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Well, off the top of my head, I would say that the way to treat these fairly would be

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to take the total number of submissions and divide it by a thousand and then that's the

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number that are accurate.

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Sure.

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Now, bottom line, this guy sucks.

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Yep.

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Bring back Dr. Marbles.

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I really appreciated him over this.

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Pretty, pretty.

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At least that guy was unhinged in a fun way.

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Yeah.

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Calling for war and what have you.

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Low bar, low bar, yeah.

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Steve sucks.

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Yeah.

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But yeah, he's trying to explain to Alex here that the media has bought off and then

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something very...

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Statistic Steve.

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Something really tragic happens.

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Yeah.

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Explain to people that a whole bunch of media outlets got bought off with contracts with

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Pfizer two years ago.

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Yeah.

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Well, we know that the White House has spent a billion dollars on influencing media and

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giving money to media to promote these vaccines and the drug companies, we don't know what

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the contracts say, but it's pretty clear that there was no interest at...

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Uh-oh.

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Hello?

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Have we lost the call?

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Sir?

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Have we lost the show?

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Hey!

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You got your wish.

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The jazz comes back.

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Jazz comes back, baby.

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You can't get rid of jazz.

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I don't know what was going on on this episode, but it was weird.

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Okay.

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This seems like a great time for Alex to bring up the time that Trump got that donation from

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Pfizer, right?

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Because we learned about that on our last episode.

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Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.

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So I mean, if you're talking about Pfizer conspiracies now, it seems like Trump being

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involved with that that you admitted to...

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No, you just need that...

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Relevant information.

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Not right now.

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Oh, okay.

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This is a different thing.

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I do appreciate the lack of continuity.

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This clip is just dumb, and I'll see if you can figure out why I cut this.

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Because there's not enough jazz.

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No, this is really...

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Keep your ears open.

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Okay.

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So even their own leftists now are waking up, and I just look at Twitter, Facebook, everywhere.

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Not even looking.

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It's just everywhere.

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People are saying, I'm paralyzed.

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My mom's dead.

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My kid's paralyzed.

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I died.

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My husband died.

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Why did I pull that clip?

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I don't know.

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He's looking on Twitter and Facebook and everywhere.

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Someone tweeted, I died.

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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I mean, okay.

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All right.

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All right.

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I know he's just talking too fast, but it's funny.

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There is something about...

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Everybody's out there tweeting, I'm paralyzed.

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My mom's sick.

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I died.

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Unless your spirit can tweet.

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I mean, wasn't that what A Christmas Carol was really all about?

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If you're in the shadow realm, are you shadow banned?

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Ooh, no.

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I think if you're in the shadow realm, you actually get past the shadow ban because you

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can move through it.

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Okay.

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The shadow ban is like a door in the shadow realm.

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Like a regular human couldn't pass through the shadow door.

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So you're saying that all the most popular Twitter accounts are ghosts?

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Yes, absolutely.

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Makes sense.

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Yep.

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So...

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What is drill but a ghost?

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Steve has a story to tell, my friend.

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And this is dumb.

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And we see people in plain sight.

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I mean, I saw an Arab ambassador.

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He's speaking at a podium and he just drops dead.

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But we've seen that over and over and over again.

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Have we?

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After the vaccines rolled out.

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So the way Steve is telling this story, it's very clear that the only thing he knows here

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is that he's seen a video on social media.

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Right.

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He has no idea who this person was or the circumstances depicted in the video at all.

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And the big tell is that he's calling him an Arab ambassador.

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Yeah.

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This was the narrative that took hold as the video traveled in anti-vax circles online,

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but it's not correct.

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It was actually a Saudi businessman named Mohammed bin Nasser bin Wazan al-Qahtani,

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who was in Egypt for a conference.

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He was giving a speech and he collapsed,

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allegedly going on to die in another room as people attempted to provide aid.

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Okay.

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The cause of death here is not determined yet,

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and there's no evidence that al-Qahtani was or was not vaccinated.

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All of this is just forced conjecture on Steve's part,

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because it's more profitable for him to make this suspicious

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when it very well could have just been a heart attack.

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There's no reason to automatically be like,

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why aren't they telling us what's going on here?

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I can't get over the idea that we've seen this over and over.

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I have not seen a ton of videos of people collapsing at podiums recently,

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or in fact in my entire life.

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There haven't been that many.

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How many can you remember of just people collapsing at podiums

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in the middle of a speech?

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Well, I saw this one that Steve posted.

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Right.

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Well, that was the one.

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Yeah.

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I mean, I'm even going to count George Bush having to duck from her shoe.

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I'll count that.

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I think I saw a cartoon once of somebody who was in a debate club,

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like a kid who's in a debate club,

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and he would be rattling off the points,

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and then he ran out of air and just collapsed.

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Oh, was that Hey Arnold?

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I think it might have been.

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I don't know.

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It's something in that sort of milieu.

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Ah, yeah.

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It's in the same part of my brain as something that might have been on Hey Arnold.

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I'm going to go with ah, real monsters.

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It was not ah, real monsters.

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It was ah, real monsters.

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It was not.

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It wasn't Rocco's Modern Life.

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Ooh, that's a good one, though.

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Wasn't Siffle and Ollie.

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No, no.

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It wasn't a cartoon.

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Wasn't Ren and Stimpy.

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No.

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No.

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I wonder...

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You know what I need to do?

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What's that?

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I need to go back to some of that stuff and see if it's any good.

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Or maybe I shouldn't.

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Ah, no.

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Yeah.

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No.

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You stop smoking weed.

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You shouldn't go back there.

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That's a good point.

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Yeah, you don't want to know what it's like without the assistance.

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So Steve has these strategies in order to create his content.

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You have obviously this weird Google form that he wants people to fill out with information

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they very well could be making up.

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Google crime form.

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But then, you know, the old standby is obviously VAERS.

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He misuses VAERS data in order to make points.

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And man, this is nuts.

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It's pretty obvious what is going on.

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Is it?

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There is no way to explain the VAERS data, which is the Vaccine Adverse Event Reporting

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System.

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That was my next question.

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You're the expert on this.

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I may interrupt you, but now you're getting into the data.

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Just give us the main data points you get that anybody can check.

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Yeah.

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Well, anybody can go to OpenVAERS.com, and there's something called the Red Box Summaries.

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And if you go to that page at OpenVAERS.com, go to the Red Box Summaries, and you flip the

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slider to show US only because it shows you by default.

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It shows you the worldwide numbers.

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You flip the switch to go US only.

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You'll see around 14,000 deaths.

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Now, the problem there is that the 14,000 are underreported deaths.

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So, because people don't report to the VAERS system.

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And so it turns out that for every death reported to VAERS, there are really about 20...

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I'm sorry, I'm getting into the...

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You're making it up.

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Why are you struggling with this?

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Yeah.

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All right.

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Now, I escaped the death blow here.

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But yeah, if you look at the VAERS numbers, you'll see 14,000.

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You need to multiply that by 41.

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Why?

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Okay, sure.

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Great.

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See, there's underreporting, and this makes some sense for some side effects, like maybe

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a headache, because not everybody's going to report a headache.

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Why would you report a headache?

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Nausea, these kinds of...

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Could be anything.

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Sure.

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Death is a little different.

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It's hard not to report it.

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Yeah, because there's other people who are doing the reporting.

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You can't self-report death.

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No, no, no, no, no.

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Except for that guy who tweeted.

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That was...

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I mean, all-time tweet, though.

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That was maybe his most important tweet ever.

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Yeah, certainly better than Musk's dumb shitpost.

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Yeah, yeah, yeah.

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Yeah, so there's...

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I don't know.

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This is ludicrous, and there's no defense of multiplying it by 41.

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And the actual website that he's using, the open VAERS, it says on the bottom,

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these are not causal.

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This is not causal data.

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That conclusion cannot be made.

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There's a qualifier on the page.

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Oh, fuck yourself, Steve.

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Doesn't it add at the bottom,

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this is not causal, but you should multiply it by 41?

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What 41?

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And get a Google form.

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Yeah, yeah, yeah.

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Oh, no, of course.

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He's a fan of...

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Oh shit, now I can't pull a song title.

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Sum 41.

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That's what it is, yeah.

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Uh-huh.

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Yep.

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Strolling to the party like my name is El Nino.

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See, there we go.

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While I'm hanging out drinking in the back of an El Camino.

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Name another Sum 41 song.

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In Too Deep.

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Wow.

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Because I'm in too deep and I'm trying to keep...

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Is that really what they sounded like?

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Yeah.

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Wow.

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Weren't they supposed to be like punk or something?

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They were, they were pop punk.

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Oh, those two things don't exist together.

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Doesn't everybody know that,

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that those two things can't be back in...

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They can't...

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It worked for a while.

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There was a guy named Steve-O in that band,

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and I always thought that was weird,

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because he definitely was around after Jackass.

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So he just took the name Steve-O.

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That's not fair.

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Yeah.

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You should have to have Steve-O in your band,

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if he names himself Steve-O.

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Or you've got to staple your balls to your leg.

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Yeah, well, there's two options.

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Then you're grandfathered in on the name.

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Yeah, but you have to put sticks in there.

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You're a drummer, goddammit.

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Have some respect.

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Look, there's another Steve who's not a Steve-O.

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Steve Kirsch.

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Steve-O Kirsch.

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Now that's a different story.

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He has a, he has a...

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Oh, this is so stupid.

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Okay.

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So Alex, do you know how much Tony Fauci is making

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every time a Moderna shot is delivered into someone's arm?

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Tell me, tell me he gets a taste.

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I know it's a lot.

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It's a lot.

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You see, that's the problem.

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So we have somebody who's directing

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this entire vaccination program

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who has a huge conflict of interest.

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You know, there's just...

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That is not something that should be allowed.

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No, of course not.

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We should know exactly how much he's making

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on these vaccines.

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And we're not allowed to know that.

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How much is Fauci making every time

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someone gets a Moderna shot?

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Here's the problem.

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I don't know.

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When would he have negotiated a specific

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2 a.m. cut of each shot?

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It's strange.

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When?

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What contract would he have been a privy to?

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Plus, I thought Steve was like a stats and facts guy.

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This is meaningless bullshit.

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Why don't we know?

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Why don't we know how much of a taste

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Dr. Fauci is getting apparently by himself?

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Not like the CDC is getting a cut.

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No, no, no.

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Just Fauci.

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This is just rampant speculation and insinuation.

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And if Steve was pressed on this question

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by a competent reporter,

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he couldn't even say that Fauci made a single penny

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when someone got a Moderna shot.

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Also, this conspiracy is internally stupid

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because here's where things break down.

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So Fauci is pushing these shots to get rich,

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which he's willing to kill off 12 million people

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in order to achieve, apparently.

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Ten thousand a day.

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Right.

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He's so money hungry, he just doesn't give a fuck.

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Then why was the Pfizer vaccine the first one that was approved?

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Wouldn't he have stood to make way more money

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if Moderna was the first one out of the gate?

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Nah, that's too much scrutiny.

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Too many eyes on you.

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You negotiate with the second tier.

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You don't want to get that rich.

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No way.

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If Fauci were really able to orchestrate

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this entire pandemic and the vaccine rollout

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and a big part of his motivation was money,

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why would over 130 million less doses of Moderna

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been administered than Pfizer?

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I'm sure the answer to this is that Fauci

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gets a taste of both shots.

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Sure.

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It doesn't really matter, but this is dumb.

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Well, and you got to figure that it's two shots

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for each vaccine, so he doubles that up.

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Of course.

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Yeah, that's the way you get it.

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And he gets an even higher cut on the boosters.

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Yeah, why not?

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The margins even better.

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It's like once you've made back your advance.

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Yeah, I got you.

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By all means, I would love for Steve

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to lay out whatever stock holdings

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he believes Fauci has or explain this nonsense,

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but he's not going to do any of that

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because he's just talking shit.

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It's easy to talk shit when you just

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make suggestions and insinuate guilt on people for fun.

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Steve spends a fair amount of this interview

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wondering why people won't talk to him or take him seriously,

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and this is a big part of why.

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This shit flies on your dumb sub stack or info wars,

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but if you try to go to the real world with it

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where words mean things, it's going to be a problem.

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And that's even, like even Brian Kilmeade

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wouldn't let you play this fucking stupid game.

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No, I know.

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You can't go, like no one, OAN wouldn't allow you to be like,

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hey, how much does Fauci get per vaccine?

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Actually, they might.

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Yeah, but I mean, that's crazy.

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Yeah.

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That's too crazy.

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Here, you could go to OAN.

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You should go to Info Wars.

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Maybe.

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You could go to Lindell's shit.

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Right.

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And that might be about where you peak.

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Yeah.

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Oh, wait.

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I think he was on Brett Weinstein's podcast.

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OK.

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Well, we've all reached the pinnacle of our careers,

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I think.

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Yep.

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So Alex almost went, well, Steve's gone now.

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Yeah.

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Alex interviews another fucking COVID denier guy,

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and I'm just like, I can't do this.

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How can we still, we can't still be denying COVID.

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Yeah, you can.

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No.

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I think it's because Alex is trying to ramp up

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with the Trump stuff.

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Sure.

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I think that that is like, COVID is becoming front and center.

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Right.

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Because the midterms are coming up.

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Oh, my God.

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Maybe he needs a way to have narrative flexibility.

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Sure, sure, sure.

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Strategic flexibility.

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Strategic flexibility.

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Yeah, yeah, yeah.

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So I think that that's maybe what's going on.

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Right.

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I'm not sure.

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So by ramping up, so I'm kind of feeling like by ramping up

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the vaccine talk, that gives Alex the wedge for the eventual

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or an uneventual push.

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Or, conversely, it could be the kind of content you need

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to put out in order to get Trump to realize that he should

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join the anti-vaccine.

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Sure, sure, sure.

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So it kind of has multiple applications.

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Man, it's kind of interesting to me that he doesn't understand

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narcissism, because ironically, there's no way Trump would

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ever do that.

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He feels proud of the vaccine for doing it.

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So in order for him to change his mind on that, he would

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have to take an accomplishment away from himself.

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Right.

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Which would be insane.

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One of the few things that he could say, like, I more or

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less saved millions of lives.

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Exactly.

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Yeah.

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I mean, that's a legitimate thing that he, I mean, obviously

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didn't do.

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Instead, like, sentencing through his incompetence millions

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of people to death.

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But it's still, you know.

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Better than nothing.

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Yeah.

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I guess, yeah.

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Can't take away the vaccine's existence.

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Yeah, yeah.

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It happened under-

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Operation Warp Speed did occur.

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Yeah, yeah.

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I suppose.

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Yeah.

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And I can understand why, even if you weren't a narcissist,

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why you wouldn't want to not be proud of that.

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That one's kind of pretty good.

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Unequivocally pretty good.

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But then if you're a narcissist, it's going to be like trying

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to get a ball away from a dog.

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No, can you imagine?

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Actually, sometimes it's not that hard.

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Well, I mean, I'm talking about, like, imagine if Richard

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Linklet, if Alex had to be like, I hated the movies that

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I was in.

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That would never happen.

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Or I hated my performance.

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Or I hated what happened.

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I think he talked shit on Linklater.

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No, I know he talked shit on Linklater, but not on his movies.

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You know, he wouldn't be like, I sucked in that movie.

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Yeah, probably not.

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Yeah, it's hard to say.

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This is why you need to have a mentality of, like,

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kill your darlings.

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That kind of writerly mentality.

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Yeah, yeah, yeah.

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Whatever these idols are, you tear them down.

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If you like something, get rid of it.

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Right.

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Yeah.

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You can't sit around and think about how great it was that

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you made that vaccine.

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Nope, eyes ahead, eyes ahead.

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Burn the boats behind you.

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Right, you have to lick a toad and go out to the woods and

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break a copy of Waking Life, ceremonially.

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Whatever you got to do, man.

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Spirit journey.

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Yeah, but I think that there is a way, you know, you make

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an interesting point.

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I'm trying to find this sort of angle of, like, how you

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could appeal to a narcissist to get them to become anti-vaxx.

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Right.

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And I guess it really comes down to, like, what you want,

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what that person wants.

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Because if they're out for money or power or something,

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you could make an argument that there's more money and

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power on this side.

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True, true.

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But it does still run up against the, like, disowning

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your own achievement.

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I mean, yeah, that seems like the rock in a hard place

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kind of situation.

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Here's my pitch.

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And the way that Alex is presenting this is, like, you

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admit you were wrong.

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Yes, exactly.

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That's not going to happen.

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That's going to be a tough hurdle.

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No, no, no.

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Here's what you do.

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All right.

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You get on a plane with him.

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All right.

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Hook him up to a machine that allows you to go inside his

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dreams.

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All right.

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You play Jean-Laurent Regrenoir.

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All right.

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Then you go another level deep inside of his dreams.

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Are you following me here?

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I think so.

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Okay, now here's the crazy part.

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You have to have somebody build mazes for you.

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Why?

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Don't ask questions.

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Now let me ask you this.

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What's that?

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Can I bring a top?

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Um, yeah.

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Okay, I'm in.

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Let's go.

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All right.

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So Steve leaves, and Alex talks to that other anti-vax guy

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who I just, I was fighting sleep.

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Sure, yeah.

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It's mostly about actuaries.

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Yeah, I'd rather re-watch Inception than that.

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Yeah, so after that, Alex sits down and wants to talk a

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little business, a little Bitcoin business.

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Oh, no.

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That Bitcoin donation that he got.

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Okay.

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And I wish I knew how dire the situation was the last few

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years. I knew it was bad, but I got lackadaisical.

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I didn't focus on things.

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I didn't focus on bringing in money.

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We almost went back.

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Really?

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That's what you think?

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We're in bankruptcy.

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But if we hadn't gotten that $8 million donation in Bitcoin

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by the time we cashed out a little bit less than $8 million,

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when we came in, it was like $9 million.

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But I waited to see if we go up and went down.

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Whoever that person is.

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Diamond hands, man.

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Because I didn't know we weren't $3 million behind.

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We were $6 million behind.

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We were insolvent.

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My accountants told me right after.

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We paid off the debts of $6 million and we bought $2 million

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of product.

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Oh, my God.

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It's now coming in that if we are good stewards of that,

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we can continue to be on air.

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You talk about God working in mysterious ways.

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I mean, if you don't know there's a God who is this unknown

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donor that literally knew my finances better than me and

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gave us exactly the amount that we played the cards exactly

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right. But that's how God works.

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I wonder if Alex understands how much more suspicious that

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makes the donation.

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I mean, good God.

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I know.

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I know it's God or whatever, but in the real world, this

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sounds like a fucking shady deal.

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Yeah.

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Also, based on his telling of things, it would seem that

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Alex doesn't qualify for bankruptcy.

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If he was $6 million in the hole and then he paid it off

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with that divine donation, on what grounds is he declaring

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bankruptcy?

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No, no, no.

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They're solvent now.

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So he's declaring bankruptcy.

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Wait, hold on.

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What?

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That seems odd.

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Yeah, this is some real televangelist shit right here.

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This is like the most amazing.

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Well, to be fair, this is something that Alex does from

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time to time.

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The money bombs always make exactly what he needs because

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it's God's will and what have you.

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Yeah, that's the shit that the televangelist can do.

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Like, I have two private jets, but they gave me just the

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exact amount of money that I piss out on a daily basis that

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keeps us going.

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Yeah, it's fun.

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So look, all this money that Alex wants you to give him.

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Sure.

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He doesn't need it.

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I'm sorry, what?

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He could start a podcast tomorrow.

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He should have focused more on making money is what he just

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said. So now he's going to say that he doesn't need money?

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Well, but he does, but not for himself.

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Okay, I got you.

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And we're still here and they can't stand it.

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They have big show trials, thousands of articles, hundreds

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of TV programs.

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That's conservatively.

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Thousands of TV programs.

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Hundreds of thousands of articles.

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Thousands of articles a day.

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You've seen it.

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But they're going to invade a country lying about us just

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to attain a jury to try to win a lawsuit to shut us down.

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They're not going to shut anything down.

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I can walk across the street and fire up a podcast that

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reaches the same amount of people today.

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But you won't have the Darren McBreen's and the Greg Reese's

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and all these incredible Don Salazar's and the Kit Daniels

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and everybody and everybody else that writes the articles

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and reports and does all this other amazing stuff.

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We don't want them to to shut us down or slow us down

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at any level, and you can end their power over us right

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now. You can shut their asses down by financially supporting

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us at Infowarsstore.com.

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You can help me elude consequences right now.

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Yeah, I don't know if it's a good sales pitch to be like,

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what about Darren McBreen?

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I mean, yeah, no.

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I mean, won't somebody think of the Darren McBreen's?

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It's tough.

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It's tough to think about what would happen to them if

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Infowars would go away.

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I saw that some outlet tracked down one of the jurors and

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talked to them about that.

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I really feel like an interesting piece would be showing

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one of the jurors, or if you could, all of the jurors, like

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these videos afterwards and seeing how they would feel about

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their judgment then.

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That would be a really interesting thing.

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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I wonder if they'd be like, oh, I'd go much larger.

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Yeah.

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I wonder if they would listen to this and be like, wow,

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we should have known all of this.

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But I also wonder how much of it is like, you know, the

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distinction between the actual damages and the punitive

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damages. Right.

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Like, I wonder if that would be swayed by him just being

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a total shithead.

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Yeah, I imagine that they came to the compensatory damages

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based on, like, math and shit.

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And then if they knew that the punitive damages would come

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out to Alex as being like, they're not going to do fuck

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all to us and we've destroyed them.

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Like, punitive damages don't exist if the punishment is then

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equaled out by the guy saying, fuck you, we didn't mean

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anything.

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That's not really punitive then, is it?

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Not really.

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Right.

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But if there are caps in Texas, then I don't know what you

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can do.

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I don't know.

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It's a mess.

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Texas justice.

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Also, Alex couldn't start a podcast tomorrow and get as many

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listeners because he's kicked off iTunes.

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So it's going to be tough.

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Going to be tough.

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I don't think Spotify is going to really go for you either.

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No, because even the episodes of Rogan with him on them

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aren't.

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They're not going to give you your own show after getting

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rid of their most popular podcaster.

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You could go to Stitcher.

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Yeah.

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Well, maybe.

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Anyway, the show ends with a protracted, bizarre sales pitch.

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Get DNA Force, get bodies, get our great immune support,

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get Ultra 12, get X2, get Supermetal Vitality finally

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back in stock and know that you are literally in an arm

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wrestling contest with Satan.

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What?

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And all I am is the arm.

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What?

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Info Wars is the arm.

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Well, I got a strong arm and a strong will, but the power

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to hold it in position is you.

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So when I'm struggling, you're struggling when I'm in combat

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with these people and they're doing everything they can.

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It's much easier to just stop sitting here to stalemate

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with them and for you to just to get behind us.

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Pray tonight for us.

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Pray tomorrow for us.

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Spread the word about us by the products.

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And I'm telling you, we're going to slam their hand down.

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We're going to beat their ass when I smell nothing but victory.

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I'm not a victory, but the spirit I got right here is victory.

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And I have never felt better.

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I have never felt stronger because of you, because God

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works through souls.

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And what done it?

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And you've done incredible things.

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I thought it works together.

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Think about it.

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We're the number one enemy.

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We're who the enemy hates more than anybody.

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Why is that?

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Because I'm real and you're real.

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And together we create a energy loop.

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What a synergy and an amplifying network of goodness.

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I thought you were an arm wrestler to shut down the churches

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during lockdown.

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What are the people coming together?

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And we're we're doing it now together.

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So go the info war store.com and get great products.

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Sign up for auto.

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She gave me 10% off.

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What a ride.

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That was I mean, I feel like he just watched over the top

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last night and then just went off from there.

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He was like, I've got this arm wrestling thing.

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I'm the arm.

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Oh, that doesn't make sense.

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They're the body.

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All right, we're doing.

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We're in a stalemate with the devil.

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We're back.

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Now we're in a stalemate.

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And now we're all just energy.

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We're feeding off of each other.

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We're synergy, not even just energy.

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We're an energy loop.

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We're an energy loop.

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Because I'm real.

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You're real.

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Why does that matter?

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Well, when this hand wrestling.

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Arm wrestling contest.

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I feel like the arm wrestling got lost there at the end.

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It was just a conduit with which he could ask you for money.

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So, but he doesn't need it.

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It's for Kit Daniels.

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But I want to win the arm wrestling contest now.

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Would you leave Kit Daniels high and dry in an arm wrestling

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contest?

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I wouldn't want him to feel that kind of aloneness.

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The guy who is so talented.

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No, I understand.

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Defamed somebody and then cried in a deposition about it.

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If it weren't for Kit, I would say we don't need to give

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info wars money.

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But now that I know that it's for Kit.

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And what do you think about Greg Reese?

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Oh, I've never thought about Greg Reese.

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It's not healthy, too.

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No, it's a bad idea.

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So we come to the end of this, and I don't think we learned

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all that much about Dugan's daughter.

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I found myself to be underwhelmed by his coverage.

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And a lot of it was just about himself.

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And why can't I do false flag stuff when they can?

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A lot of that.

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A lot of anti-vax stuff.

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I always appreciate our episodes that start with a topic

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and then end with you having to remind me what it was the

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topic was.

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Happens more than it should.

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It really happens a lot.

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It doesn't happen as often as people collapsing at podiums

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on live TV.

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And that's happening all the time.

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All the time.

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It's nuts.

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So anyway, I like that jazz.

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I wonder if that'll be a new feature of the show.

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I would like it, yeah.

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I wonder if that's a sign of GCN just giving up the elevator

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music from now on.

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Oh, yeah.

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I could start an elevator music podcast across the street

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tomorrow.

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Look, we'll be back.

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But until then, we have a website.

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Indeed we do.

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It's knowledgefight.com.

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Yep.

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We're also on Twitter.

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We are on Twitter.

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It's at knowledge underscore fight.

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We will be back.

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But until then, I'm Neo.

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I'm Leo.

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I'm DZX Clark.

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I'm Wilford Snibble Snabble of the Gribble Pibble.

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And now here comes the sex robot.

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Andy in Kansas.

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You're on the air.

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Thanks for holding.

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Hello, Alex.

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I'm a first time caller.

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I'm a huge fan.

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I love your work.

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I love you.