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Damn and Jordan, I am sweating

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Hello Alex, I'm a system caller, I'm a huge fan

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I love your work

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Knowledgefight

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Hey everybody, welcome back to Knowledgefight, I'm Dan

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I'm Jordan

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We're couple dudes, like sit around in a hotel room and worship Selene from afar

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and talk a little bit about Alex Jones

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Oh indeed we are, Dan

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Jordan

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Dan

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Jordan

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Quick question for you

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Sup

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What's your bright spot today, buddy?

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My bright spot today, Jordan, is just like getting it done

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Yeah

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You know?

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Yeah

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I had such high hopes of being able to get an episode about that documentary out on the day it was released

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and I thought there's no way I'm going to be able to manage doing that

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and, you know, perseverance, stick-to-it-iveness, whatever you want to call it

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Yeah

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Persistence, we managed to do it and I'm proud of us for it

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Although at press time, no response from Glenn Greenwald

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Still, still

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Or Matt Taibbi

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Nothing, nothing for me for them

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No soul-searching

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Nope

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Posts on sub-stack

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Haven't seen them be like, this is why we're re-examining our life choices

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Not one of them

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I want to question why I didn't think it was weird that Sandy Hook came up in the context of why people are mad at Alex

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It's just because of Trump

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Yeah, nonsense

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But I'm glad that we were able to do that

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Yeah

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Because, you know, I think that there's a, there's such a whirlwind of Alex going on right now

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that it's so easy for things to get lost

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Yeah

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And that seemed too important to the larger body of, like, Alex Apologia

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that I wanted to make sure that wasn't missed

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Yeah

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Also, you know what else I remembered?

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What's that?

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I fucked up

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I forgot to bring up one very important thing that wasn't in the documentary

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Reset Wars

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The most important thing that wasn't in the documentary

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The crowning achievement of Alex's life, the culmination of his career, Reset Wars

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Not in the documentary about his career

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You are right, you are right

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Holy shit

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No mention of, like, Cleon Skousen

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No, no, no

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Anyway, what's your bright spot?

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Uh, well, my bright spot is gonna piggyback on yours because yours is very magnanimous in saying that

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we got it done, but while we stayed up late until 3.30 or 4 this morning

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you worked all the way until 10 a.m. this morning when most people, they would have said

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hey, 3.30, I'm just gonna go to sleep, I'll do it tomorrow

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and then the episode will be out at 9 p.m. at night

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That is not how you fucking work, Dan

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It's the, I don't want to go to bed until a task is done

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Hell no

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If it's possible

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Yeah, and you'll fight like hell to make it possible

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and that is my bright spot, man

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Thank you, I appreciate that, but I also want to say

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just for the sake of total transparency, it wasn't 10 a.m.

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You liar

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It was more like 6 central time

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Yes, everybody, yes

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10 a.m. somewhere

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You know, people really rely on me not to be, like, hyperbolic

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Well, actually, you know what Jimmy Buffett says

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What's that?

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10 a.m. somewhere

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So, Jordan, today we have an episode to go over

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I have found something that I think will be a bit of fun for folks

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Delight

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Something a little bit more, you know, not as impactful

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Not as hard as the trial, not as hard as the documentary

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and the Greenwald Q&A is still off in the horizon

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Right

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We're gonna do that soon, but

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We're gonna have fun?

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This is an amuse-bouche

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Well, I need an amuse-bouche

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Your mouth will be amused

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My bouche is needing to be amused

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But also one of the things that I wanted to do was

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take an opportunity to talk a little bit about the trial itself

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and how things are going on

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and give folks a little bit of a recap

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because, obviously, that's something that's in a lot of people's minds

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Sure

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We're recording this here on Friday just after the case has adjourned

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Yeah, for the day

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For the weekend

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Yes

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TGIF'd

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Mm-hmm

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Yeah

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Thank

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Um, Gritty

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They did mention Philadelphia earlier

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Thank Gritty It's Fritters

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Thank Gritty It's Fritters

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I'm hungry

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Me too

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So yeah, I feel like you've been, you know, keeping a real watchful eye on this case

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Have I?

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I think so

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I think so

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I mean, I did go back because I read a lot of what I wrote today

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and I

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Don't do that

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Do think that I could be making all of this up

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Like, if you read through that, that is a made-up

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There's no way that any of that is real based on a real thing

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I'm clearly hallucinating in my hotel room after we recorded until 3 a.m. last night

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That must be what happened today

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I think if that were the case, you'd have a lot more people responding to your tweets with like

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I'm worried about you because I'm watching the stream and this is not at all what's happened

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Well, I have had some I'm worried about you, but not for that reason

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Well, sure

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But that's kind of par for the course

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Yeah, yeah, yeah

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No, it was, um, today was, I mean, it started with Owen being a piece of shit who was trying to

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Owen was trying to be like that Stonewall witness where he's like, you know, I don't know if you

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And I don't know if you can prove I said that, you know, he's trying to do that whole thing

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Press a button

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Oh, everybody was just annoying until he left

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The jurors asked him some questions that were quite funny

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The story of today is the jurors questions as time went on

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Yeah

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Right

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They started off being very simple and then by the end of the day

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they are wondering who is and is not a lizard person in the courtroom

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So to give some context for anybody who's not aware of how this is working

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Like when you have the witnesses, the jury is able to record questions that

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the judge will ask them

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And people can object to the questions

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The judge can say, I'm not going to ask that, that's ridiculous

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Right

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Which he did

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So you can't shitpost too hard

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Right, right

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But yeah, the progression of these questions has, if you're Alex or his lawyer

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You cannot feel good about some of these questions and the way that they're being phrased

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Yeah, yeah, yeah, it is hard not to think that the defense is like, here's what we're gonna do

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We're gonna red pill these people and that's how we'll get off of this

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And those questions near the end of the day have got me thinking that the opposite is true

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Well, actually we don't know tone and so

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That's true, it could be, are you a lizard person?

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Exactly

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Yeah, that's true

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That's true

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We could be totally misreading this whole thing

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I wish that weren't a possibility, but I will put it at maybe 15, 20 percent

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Yeah, I feel quite low as odds

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Yeah, and then they played some depositions, Rob Jacobson's deposition

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The Kraken

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The Kraken, Badandi's deposition, which was so funny

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Listening to him talk about how much he loves Infowars and how close he is with them

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And how they're his favorite people, juxtaposed next to Daria being like

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I don't know if I've ever even heard of Badandi before

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Like Badandi's under oath, he's like Daria still sends me cards on my birthday

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Absolutely, she loans my daughter money, like it's that kind of thing

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She got me a Kraken plushie

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Yes, it was that

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And then

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But like we're laughing about that, but at the same time there is a pathos to that

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Because it is like this guy is being used by them

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Like not to absolve him of any of his actions

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He would have done these things probably on his own

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But he's being egged on and directed in some way

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And validated and probably told by Alex that you're part of the family

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And all of this as it's going on

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And then once it's inconvenient and incredibly damning

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Oh, it's not good

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To be too close with Badandi, you immediately cut bait and be like nah

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Never heard of him

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Yeah

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Nope, never heard of this guy

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It's kind of sad

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It is, it is

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Because he was really expressing just various versions of like it feels good to get a good

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boy from Alex, you know

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I imagine

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Yeah, that's kind of what he's saying

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Yeah, and I guess, you know, the upswing of it is

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Or I guess maybe the justice of it is because there is that little bit of pathos

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Maybe we can feel okay that Badandi himself is not getting sued

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Yes

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You know, like maybe that's how he gets off the hook or whatever

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Sure, yeah, I mean, it is a little bit like Badandi's deposition kind of makes him look

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to be more the gun and not somebody who is firing it, you know

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So it's like, well, I mean, I know he's a person but also

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He's a person shaped like a gun that doesn't think real well

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So that's kind of a problem there

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Yeah, and if he's convinced that Sandy Hook is a false flag or whatever

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And he makes one video yelling at somebody about it and no one cares

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Odds are there's not going to be a second video

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Odds are this isn't going to keep going

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But if you have a platform like Alex's show, like the nightly news on Infowars

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That's willing to validate and disseminate your content

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And connect you with like Wolfgang Halbig

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And, you know, like it's encouraging in a way that I would

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Again, I don't know if we can prove it, but I would say it probably facilitates

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It kind of makes it happen

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Yeah, no

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Makes it happen more

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And that is what the afternoon's testimony was almost entirely about

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Becca Lewis, hero to the Squatch forever

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Well, I appreciate that and she did do a great job on the stand

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But the Squatch has no heroes

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I understand, we haven't spoken yet

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I will, I'm nominating her

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That's fine, potential hero for the Squatch

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The council has not yet voted, it's not official, I understand

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But she did a spectacular job explaining like

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The difference between what happens whenever you post on Facebook

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And what happens when you post on Infowars, you know

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And while it seems like that's a very easy thing for people to just instinctively grasp around

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It is kind of complicated whenever you start getting into

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What it is that it means to post on Facebook, you know

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You get a hundred shares or whatever and you think

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Wow, I'm a media organization

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As opposed to when Infowars post something

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Maybe it says a hundred, but because it's Infowars

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It's on this platform and that echoes over there

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And then because it's like a spider web

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There's a distribution of the content

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And that's the thing that the more she made clear the better

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It was like, oh yeah, now they're getting that shit, yeah

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Well, and it's kind of hard to recognize now in 2022

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And even over the past few years

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The different nature of what Facebook was like in 2012, 2013, 2014

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Like it was not the same website that it is now

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Wow, I didn't even consider that thought

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I don't think anybody considered that

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I imagine that if they had actually just been like

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Okay, let me show you a screenshot of Facebook in 2012 and what it looked like

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I think that would be a very different question as well

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That's fascinating

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I think so

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And I think that it was less an unusable website

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Like it wasn't as much of a like place where people's, you know,

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Grandparent chain emails would basically be reposted over and over again

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Or maybe it was, but it was like that was confined to smaller spaces

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It was for groups of people who all hated gardening

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But somehow wanted to talk Nazis, yeah

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And then to your point too with the like, if you have a hundred shares or whatever

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And the hundred people who are sharing it are people who have like an audience of two

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Exactly

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You know, it's a distorted image of a hundred shares

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It's not real

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Like, well, it's real, but it's not as impactful as two shares from like

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Glenn Greenwald

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Yeah, exactly

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Yeah

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Yeah, yeah

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So yeah, Becca did a great job

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She was fantastic on the stand

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And I thought it was interesting to watch the defense try and do the cross

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My god

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It was weird

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I don't even know how to describe that guy's performance today

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I think that was, today I really did feel like, like I tweeted this

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And I don't want to repeat tweets, but that's terrible

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Oh, you Doug Benson doing a stand up special

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Exactly

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But today really felt like the first day that Infowars tried to put the system on trial

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Instead of Infowars being like cross-examined and like, here's why you guys are terrible

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This was Shitball's first attempt to be like, here's what I'm gonna do

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I'm gonna prove that you're a liar

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I'm gonna prove that you aren't an expert at all

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What is Harvard Law School or Oxford Law School?

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Can you walk me through an entire statistics class?

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Totally

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It was very much that

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It was like Alex's questions for somebody who actually knows something

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And they do not sound good in a courtroom

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No

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Yeah

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I found that to be a little blah

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So over the course of the last few days too

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There have been some things that have gone on

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There has been, I think probably the biggest moments

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Outside of the rolling thunder of Daria's horrible performance

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That went on way too long

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Terrifying

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Exhausting

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But I think honestly, most of that is stuff that it relates

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At least sort of tangentially to stuff we covered in the deposition

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Right

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And I don't know if anything happened in the courtroom that is more shocking

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Than Daria saying that Super Bowl image is an image of hope

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Yep

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An expression of hope

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Yep

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And so I don't want to dwell too much on it because

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I don't know, other people have talked about it

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Daria was trending on Twitter

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Great

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Yeah

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But the two things I think stick out are obviously the fight

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That Mark and the defense attorney got into

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Of course

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Which is a little fun

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Hey, it's Texas, come on

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Texas justice

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I mean come on, we're gonna leave without a fight?

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I think they should have had a duel

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I think they might still

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And then the other thing was Owen being chastised for going on Infowars and talking about the case

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And the moment of him saying that his lawyer had not told him about the rules of him being a witness

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And not being able to talk to other witnesses

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And not being able to talk about the case

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That was, I mean, if there was a moment that was needed to be like

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This is disrespectful

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Yeah

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That really filled that gap

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You know, I knew where we'd be

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But still, I thought that when the actual trial happened

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And I don't know why I thought this, I feel like a fool

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Because I still had that thought in the back of my mind

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Even though I knew, here's what I'm gonna do, I'm gonna expect the worst

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But still in my head, I was like

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At the actual trial, they will have prepared something

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Ha ha ha

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Nothing!

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Nope

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I mean nothing

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Well, they might have prepared emotionally to be this brazen

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I don't know if there's a way to prepare to be this brazen

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I think you're born with this kind of a gift

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I think it involves whiskey

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Yeah, I would need it

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The cantina theme

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Um, yeah, so I don't know

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It's interesting for me to look at it

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And recognize that like, I think that there is a not insignificant amount of our audience

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Who are watching the live stream of the trial

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Yeah

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And so any discussion of some of that would be redundant

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There's a recognition that I have too

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That a lot of outlets are covering the trial

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Sure

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And some of them are people who have a better understanding of law than me

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100%

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Opening arguments did an episode that came out I believe today about the case

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Oh yeah?

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Yeah, and so I don't know

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I feel that I'm at my best

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When we're talking about things that other people aren't talking about

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And when there's other coverage of things

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I kind of feel like we'll end up just being another voice

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And that's not to say that we shouldn't talk about the trial at all

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No

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Um, and we can talk about our feelings on it but

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I don't have as much of an interest in doing like a play-by-play on it

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Like I would with the documentary

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At least until it's over

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Well, I mean the reality of it is, in our context

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Is that what is happening is they're just being forced to listen to

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All of the evidence that has been presented against them

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Not necessarily collected by you specifically

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Just that that's what our show is too

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You know?

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And they're just there looking at it

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And it would be redundant for us to cover it

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Because it's the same stuff we have covered

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You know?

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They're just presenting the evidence that we've spent five years talking about

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Finally

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To these dumb people's faces

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And, um, yeah

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So I think, you know, it's a little bit brief in terms of like a court recap

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But, um

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They write them out

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Check in on Jordan's Twitter

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Uh, go to bed Jordan if you want, uh, a lot of

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A lot

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A lot

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A torrential barrage of bullshit

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Yeah, and we'll have more, um, you know, talk with some of the folks

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Who maybe have a better insight on some of the stuff

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Yes

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Uh, in coming days

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Um, and, uh, and what have you

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But Jordan

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I told you

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We have something a little bit fun

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And so that's something we're gonna get into today

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I'm about it

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One of the reasons that we're putting this out here on on Friday evening

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Uh, like as I guess a defacto Saturday episode

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Sure

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Is because why not?

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We're here in Austin, we can record, we can do whatever the fuck we want

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Yeah

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No rules

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No, we're producing

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Texas justice

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We're producing way too much content

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And how dare you to defy us

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Um, and so we gotta get this out

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Because it's a special time for, uh, comedians

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And that is JFL auditions

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People just got JFL nods

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No, today!

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Um, I think it was the other day

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Maybe a couple days back

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All right

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But I saw that our old friend

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Actually, I don't know if they're one of your old friends

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But somebody that I knew and was friendly with, uh, back when they lived in Chicago

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Ever Maynard, uh, got, uh, new faces

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No shit! Averdive?

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Yeah

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Oh, congratulations!

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That's fantastic

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Yeah

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Um, and so

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They are great

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Yeah

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They're great

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And I got in this, uh, this mood of thinking about stand-up

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And it's really fortunate because

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On Band.video

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No

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Oh, and Troyer released an 18-minute video

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No

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That is titled

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Owen Troyer does a stand-up special

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No!

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Yeah, so we're gonna talk about Owen Troyer's stand-up special

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Did he get a JFL nod?

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Because if he gets one and I have never gotten one

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I am going to be mad

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I'm gonna be furious

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You've never auditioned, I don't think

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Uh, well, nobody's ever even asked me

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That's how bad it is

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Nobody's ever even considered asking me

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So we don't need to worry about the audition

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I auditioned one year

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I was asked to audition one year

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And, uh, I did it at CYSK

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And, uh, it was painfully clear, um, even going into it

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Who they were interested in seeing

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And then they just had to pad out the rest of the show

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Right

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So it was very nice that they, you know, the producers asked me to, like, be a part of that

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Be padding out of the show, yeah

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Yeah, yeah, yeah, you're meeting the room

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But it was so fucking clear, like, alright, these are the four people that have a shot

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The rest of you, if you torpedo this fucking room

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Yeah

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Then maybe we'll consider it

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Yeah

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But, like, you don't really have a shot

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Yeah, it is fun whenever you go there and you're like

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Oh, you came here with your agents and we all came by ourselves

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We're not going to JFL, are we?

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No, no, we're not

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So this was at a, um, Bryson Gray

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Uh-huh, who's a right-wing, uh, rapper slash comedian slash public figure

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Uh, man

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Maga figure

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Ooh, real renaissance man

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I don't think a lot, let's call him that

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I don't know too much about him, actually, because I think that he

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lives mostly in the war room guest sphere

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Uh-huh

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I've seen him less, uh, I don't know if I even remember him being on Infowars

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But I'm sure he has been

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Right

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I'm sure he's been on with Alex

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Right

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But, um, yeah, he's a guy who's running a little bit of a show, uh, in San Antonio

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In San Antone?

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Mm-hmm

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Oh, and we missed it? We could have been there

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I think we actually could have

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Ooh

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I think it might have been on the day that we got to town

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So it might have, it might have been impossible

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We flew into the wrong city

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Um, so this had, uh, that, uh, who else was on the, the, the list that night?

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You had a couple

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Our friend Avermaine

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No

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No, the, uh, there were two people from 2000 Mules, but not Dinesh D'Souza

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So two of the other people involved in 2000 Mules

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Right, right, right

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There was that, uh, that MAGA rapper, uh, who did that song with Roger Stone, uh,

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where Roger Stone was dancing

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I, I just don't do it, you know? Whenever the MAGA people have their culture

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that they insist is something we might describe as rap or something we might describe as humor

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I just, I just, I disagree with them on the principle

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It's not rap or funny, so I'm done

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I have to be honest, sick flows

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Well, then I guess I take it back

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I should tell you it's twisted

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The fastest rapper in the world

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Methamphetamine lyrics? God damn it!

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Um, no

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So, um, here is, uh, Owen's introduction

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You gotta come out of the gate strong

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Sure

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Obviously, you want, uh, if you're someone who's, uh,

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maybe starting to get into the world of stand-up and you want a little bit of advice

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One of the things is strong opener, strong closer

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You know, the old, the old, uh, saying, you know,

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your best joke is last and your second best joke is first

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That's the way you do it

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It's true

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Yep

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You can tread water for a little while in the middle and get away with it if you

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open strong, close strong

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Yeah, yeah, yeah

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So here's Owen, uh, opening

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How's everybody doing tonight? You got any tacos out there?

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We love tacos!

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That's how they see it

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You know, they say, oh, look at the taco

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Did he

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Seriously though, how is everybody doing?

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Gotta be doing better than Joe Biden, right?

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Doing better than Joe Biden

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Pretty amazing

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He announces he has cancer and barely even makes news

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So, uh, hey, the president's got cancer anyway

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Kim Kardashian just had a boob job

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Woo!

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So, so, um, the tacos thing, that was that Jill Biden comment

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Oh, oh

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She had made, she was talking about the, uh, the Hispanic population as diverse as the bodegas

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in the Bronx

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Right

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The breakfast tacos

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And like, obviously the point that she was making is like not a offensive one

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Right

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But boy was it, uh

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Oh, they got her

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Boy was it

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They got her

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No, but she should have reconsidered the way she was expressing

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Yeah, no, no, that's bad

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The point that she was making

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Yeah, totally

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Um, but yeah, I mean, I guess, uh, it was pretty recent, I guess, to when he did this standup

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special and so coming out with the topical, hey, we got any tacos out there

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Yeah

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Hey, hey, that's what they call you

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That's what they call you, what I'm calling you then

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Yeah, yeah, that's what they call you, I introduced you and greeted you that way

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without performing the contextual that would give you the idea that I'm above that

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But it was, it's, it's so widely known within the, uh, this space that like you have, you don't,

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you don't even need to explain, I need to explain to you

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Man

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And our listeners probably, um, but yeah, they know it so well because it's been the top headline

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in every right-wing blog, Jill Biden calls Mexican people tacos

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This is absurd

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Yeah

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I can't believe that, I have no idea about that whatsoever and that's just the most

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famous thing in the right, it's crazy

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And like, this is also a caution to people who want to get into standup, be careful about

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whether or not you think your material will age

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Right, right, right

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This is, this is tired a week laughing at you

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So tired

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It's already unrelatable

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Yeah, I mean, you know, it was easier for Jon Stewart to like shit talk gaffs, you know,

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the late night shows, they talk the gaffs, oh, look at the president, he said this, you know?

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And then it's gone tomorrow because it's a very throwaway joke

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Right

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You know, you don't need it and if you're saying it out loud on stage,

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you should stop being on stage

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Well, and then it's just another gaffe of Biden, uh, you know

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Hey, he's got cancer, hey!

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But also that did make the news, people were talking about that

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That's how he knows about it

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Exactly

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It's not like he was following Biden around like, oh, everybody's lying about you, but thanks for

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hanging out and having cancer with me

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Yeah, also this wasn't a gaffe, but I was, I was reflecting on it

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The, I made a reference to somebody being like, now watch me sink this three

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and I didn't realize it, but what I was trying to pull up in my memory was that George W. Bush,

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he was giving like a press speech on a golf course and he was talking about like Iraq

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and then he's like, and now watch this drive

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That's right

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I had forgotten that that's what was in my mind

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Wow

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I, taken, taken outside of all of the context of it being George W. Bush and talking about Iraq

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Sure

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It's a pretty baller movie

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Did he get a good drive?

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Yes

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God damn it

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Yeah, it was like, uh, science just

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That's terrible, that is terrible

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Now watch this drive, it's such a funny thing to say to the media

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You can't be president if you say that, that should be, again, I'm not saying that we need

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to make like big grand laws, I'm saying that we should make more targeted, very specific laws

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Like if you say that to the media, you immediately stop being president

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Like I feel like that's fair

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The question that arises from that is like, was that an attempt to be funny or was that

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something that was just like, he uncomfortably said it and it ended up being

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Amazing

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Amazingly disrespectful and very funny

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Knowing W, the way that we all do after these so many years, I imagine he just really wanted

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to hit the drive and they kept asking him questions and so eventually he lost interest

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in what they were doing and was like, I'm going to go hit this drive, I'm the president

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Yeah

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Yeah

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So Biden's got cancer, but he doesn't, but the media didn't cover it, but they did

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Oh yeah, well

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Owen decides to develop this theme a little bit of sicknesses that Biden has

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Oh, so he's turning this into a bit, not necessarily just a joke

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Yeah, maybe

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Okay

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Then he goes to Saudi Arabia, he does the fist bump, Saudi Arabia's like, oh Biden's

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here, oh okay, I'll turn all the lights off, he's going to need to take a nap

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We'll give him 20 minutes to take a little nap, we'll see if we can talk about him after that

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No, but you noticed

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You know one thing about standup that I think a lot of people who are like, I could do standup

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right, it is a little bit like saying like, oh I could just go sing the national anthem

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in front of the Staples Center, you know, where you're like, sure maybe you know how to sing

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You could physically do it

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Yes, yes, but you don't know what the song actually sounds like and so when you sing it

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you're kind of like, and that's, standup has a music and a rhythm and a vibe to it and if you

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are singing a bad song, that's going to happen

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And you also don't really know what you're going to feel when it doesn't go the way you expect

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Yeah

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And unless you've done it a lot of times, that can be really disorienting

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Yeah

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And you can end up in situations like we just heard there, like he has no control over the audience

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Nope

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There's yelling shit out and then

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They're yelling diseases just like, dementia, Lyme disease

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Now I will say that I do like this COVID, you hear about this?

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There is a bit of, if he weren't doing it like he was trying to do a bit instead,

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if he were accidentally or maybe even on purpose saying it like that,

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that would be funny but unfortunately

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Yeah, sort of like an anti-comedy kind of way

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Yeah, yeah, absolutely

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Also Biden went to those countries before he was diagnosed with COVID

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Also we stopped tracking and tracing way before Biden ever got it

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I actually would bet that there has been some attempts at tracking and tracing

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given the people that he has contact with

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But yeah, those trips that he was mentioning were not after

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Biden cancelled like a domestic trip because of COVID

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He was on screen the entirety of his COVID time, right?

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I think so

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Yeah, he was never outside

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So look, they wish him well with the COVID

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Of course

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Owen does

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You know, we don't want COVID to kill Joe Biden, right?

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This is gonna end well

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You don't need to show anybody, saying I hope Joe Biden dies from COVID

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You guys are gonna sell that, right?

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This is gonna go great

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The cancer will be just fine

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Oh no, I'm kidding

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No you're not

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Why?

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That has structure

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Yeah

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It's not great, but it has structure of a joke

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And then I like the lull and then the just kidding and then someone yelling, no you're not

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Yeah, that is kind of an interesting thing about the right's version of humor

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They have the structure of a joke, but they just say something they believe

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I don't want him to die of COVID, I want him to die of cancer

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That's what he said

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And so he wasn't joking

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Maybe, but if you just look at it from a purely comedic perspective

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That's a misdirect

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It is a classic misdirect

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And congratulations Owen, you pulled that off kind of

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That is true, that is true

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Now

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There is just a better, that's a punch upable joke though

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I mean you don't go from COVID to cancer

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You escalate it into a completely different territory

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You know, we don't want him to die of COVID

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We want him to be hit by a giant rubber duck

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You know, you really push it to the absurd

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Yeah, that might be helpful

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But I think that there's something about the resonant sound

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COVID, cancer

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You're not wrong, you're not wrong about that

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That's where he's sitting there with a pen and a pad

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Just sitting there, ooh the C's, I think I gotta go with it

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The k sound is usable for humor much better than many others

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Yeah, maybe instead you should say he should be drowned in caca

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Yeah, see, boom

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It is not hard to punch up this joke

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But he'd already established the cancer early

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So I think you're kind of boxed in

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That's fair, that's fair

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But Biden doesn't have cancer

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No, but the truth is Biden, he actually just spoke

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He didn't mean to say that he has cancer

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What he meant to say was that he is a cancer

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Ah, clapter

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It's true

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Biden is truly the cancer

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But hopefully we can get rid of it

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But did you hear though, this weekend

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The Biden administration has announced

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That they have saved you gas money

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Have you heard this?

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They lowered the gas prices by 60 cents

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They said, they're bragging about it

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We got gas prices down 60 cents

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Wow, maybe now I can buy a stick of gum

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If I save up long enough, maybe I can even have a whole pack

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Thank you so much Biden administration

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Oh, is he done? Thank God

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Is it like 60 cents a gallon or is it, what is it?

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I don't know

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There's no context for this

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No

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What do you, you don't put the same amount of gas in your tank every time

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I guess

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Is it 60 cents a barrel?

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What are we talking about?

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Yeah, I mean, is this a joke?

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I guess it is

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Does he just think he's funny?

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He just thinks he's funny all the time

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I would assume that a lot of his life revolves around people affirming that

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A lot of people yelling, you get him cuck destroyer

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Yeah

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Stuff like that

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That's true

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Yeah, I think that there's an intrinsic problem with this

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And that is that they've been complaining that gas prices are too high for a very long time

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Right

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And they're making fun of somebody achieving that

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Yes

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So that's a problem

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And then the second problem is that does he not think that Trump

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has bragged about way smaller reductions in gas prices?

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I don't think you understand how humor works

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I, look, I understand that

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No, I know

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I understand that sometimes you want to just, you know, swing a big bat or whatever with a joke

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But there are just structural problems at the point that he's trying to make

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Absolutely

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I think what's fun about it is that for the far right, right

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You know how we hate comedians who are like,

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Hey, everybody give it up for the troops in order to get a huge, easy applause break

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For the far right, apparently you get an easy applause break if you're like,

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Biden is a cancer!

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And that's it

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You're like, what?

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Well, they fucking hate what they see as like virtue signaling in comedy and stuff

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Despise it

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Yeah, and what is that but that?

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No, no, no, it's way different

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Sure

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Because it's mean

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Well, I guess you could argue that it's elevated from pure virtue signaling because he's saying

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he doesn't have cancer, he is cancer, so there's like a linguistic twist

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Ah, I can see that

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That he's using, but it's elementary

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But look, Biden, Joe, not the only Biden

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There's another Biden

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Uh-oh

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Well, actually there's a third Biden because we already talked about Jill Biden's taco combat

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We're talking about the dog

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No

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Oh, we're talking about

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Hunter

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Oh

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Biden is just, Biden is just the beginning of this disastrous family

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How about Hunter, huh?

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In fact, we haven't seen Hunter in a while

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I was coming in, I noticed that there was a strip club

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What?

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Hunter could be anywhere right now

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Yeah, it's funny because he's horny

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Yeah

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And, you know, there's a strip club

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All right

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So Owen is in San Antonio, is there any reason to assume Hunter Biden would be in San Antonio?

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Or is it just a random strip club that Owen saw and he thought, hey, there's boobs in there

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Yeah, let's put these two together

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How can I turn this into something that is going to, let's say

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It killed

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Break ground in the industry

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And it killed

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Yeah, it really did, it really did

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So now that Hunter has come up, I have to say that I think that this next clip that he,

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this joke that he has about Hunter Biden

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Yeah

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I think is as close as you're going to get to a good bit

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Interesting

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This isn't, this, there's legs here

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Let's see it

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He needs to do some work on it, I would recommend him hit some open mics

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Okay

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Think about what he's trying to say a little bit

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Yeah

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But there's something here

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Okay

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You know, I'm looking for the camera to film a crap deal.

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What do you think the best camera to film a crap deal would be?

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Do you think I should go with a GoPro or maybe a handheld?

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And he says, well sometimes, sometimes if I'm, you know, filming maybe some incest,

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I need both my hands, you know?

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Is there like a, is there a helmet or can I have like a head strap?

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This is one of mine and I mean this is his life.

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I'm trying to, I'm trying to figure this thing out.

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And at this point, at this point, the guy at Best Buy, he's like, I don't know whether

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to call the manager or the police.

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What's going on here?

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But hey, hey, hey.

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That's not in the news either.

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What?

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Your, your imagined scenario?

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What's not in the news?

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Hunter Biden going to Best Buy?

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That's confusing.

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That's a weird one to end on.

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I think that the joke and the act out of him going to Best Buy and like what's best to

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get a crack deal, to tape a crack deal.

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For sure.

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There's something there.

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That's a good premise.

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You ruined it by bringing it to the incest thing and it's gross.

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Went to shocking too soon.

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It's disgusting.

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And it doesn't heighten the bit of what he was, he was working on.

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The absurdity of a man going and buying a camera to film his own criminal activities.

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Yes.

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Yeah.

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And the, the sort of the, the image of that, like, why would you film a crack deal?

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What are the specs of the camera?

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Like there is something there that you could chisel away at and kind of have a fairly funny

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joke in the right wing context that makes fun of Hunter Biden.

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But I, cause what you've got in your back pocket.

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You lost it.

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Yeah.

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No, what you've got in your back pocket on this one, right, is you can slowly escalate

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it through that kind of prism.

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And then instead of being like, I don't know who to call, the cops or whatever, you can

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be like, wait, are you Hunter Biden?

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That's what the, you know, and then it would be like, Oh, people go crazy.

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That would be a better like sort of tag.

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Exactly.

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The, I don't know whether to call the police or the manager is kind of lazy.

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Yeah.

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Uh, that's, that's something you would get out in like the first three or four times

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you tell the joke.

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Right.

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Right.

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That's not working.

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That's not going to end a, that's not going to close this bit.

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Or if you hang out with funny people, one of them will be like, here's something better.

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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Um, but yeah, I think there was kind of like, no, I see it.

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Not terrible.

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It's a good premise.

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Yeah.

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It fell apart.

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The premise is there.

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And he, he negated it halfway through instead of continuing whenever you can't, you can't

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do that.

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You got to have the rhythm.

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You got to have the music.

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Right.

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And the, the, like what you're saying too is a important point.

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And that is that like the shock of the twist or whatever, bring it to the incest thing.

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It isn't earned and it's not like, it's not what the foundation of the joke was.

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There's absurdity.

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And then you went gross and with no time to, with no time to process.

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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It's terrible.

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So, uh, there's more topical stuff here.

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But hey, you know, Democrats, they're fighting, uh, they're fighting oppression.

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They're fighting racism and they're all gay now.

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I don't know if you guys have heard.

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Look that, that's, you say it first because you're going to say the same thing I am.

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I don't know like what that is exactly.

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But like in the context of a parody of Owen, that's a pretty funny line.

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Exactly.

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Yeah, exactly.

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It's a funny thing to say because it's so absurd that anyone would ever say it.

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Yeah.

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Only Owen would.

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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In the context of something that is commenting on people like Owen, that is a great line

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to include.

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Hilarious.

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For Owen to be saying it is

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Obvious.

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Very bizarre.

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Too weird.

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Yeah.

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If you, if, if, yeah, if you dressed up in an Owen suit and said that people would be

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like, that is the funniest impression I've ever seen.

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Like a Sasha Baron Cohen character or something.

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Exactly.

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100%.

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Yeah.

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But apparently Saudi Arabia is basically buying professional golf.

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Have you guys heard this?

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I live to her.

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So it's a big story.

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Saudi Arabia is just buying professional golf.

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Saudi Arabia is buying golf, turns out.

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And I noticed, I don't see much gay in professional golf.

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I don't see much liberal BS.

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I don't see any of that.

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So maybe somebody did it.

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Because they're golfers.

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The NBA next.

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The NFL next.

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So golf has historically been a sport that was built on exclusion.

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In order to play it, you needed access to huge areas of land, which are usually expensive

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to access.

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It requires expensive equipment and is a tradition pretty deeply rooted in segregation with courses

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being part of golf clubs, which could choose to admit no black people if they wanted to

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until relatively recently.

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Things have gotten gradually improved with the sport, but it's still got a ways to go

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in terms of inclusion.

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Anyway, there's a larger backdrop behind the phenomenon that Owen is discussing, which

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he's pretending not to know about and is relevant to the subject of this joke.

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Right.

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Also, the structure of this joke doesn't really make sense.

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He likes that the PGA, he likes them because he interprets them as being less into wokeness

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or accepting gay people, while he hates the NFL and NBA because they're too woke.

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Saudi Arabia apparently wants to buy golf, so Owen wants them to buy the NFL and NBA,

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presumably so they wouldn't be so woke or accepting of gay people.

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But there's really only two ways this could make sense.

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He would have to believe that the sport of golf was preemptively being excluding of people

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in order to court an offer from Saudi Arabia or that golf was previously full of wokeness,

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but Saudi Arabia somehow got them in check.

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Nothing about golf changed because of the possibility of Saudi Arabia buying the sport,

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whatever that means.

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So there isn't a hinge to put this on to make the joke that if they bought the NBA, it would

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stop being woke.

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This is just not very well thought out material.

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He's just saying that, hey, there's a vein of bigotry that runs through golf that I like.

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There's a vein of wokeness that goes through the NFL and NBA.

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Saudi Arabia is starting their own golf series.

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They're not buying the PGA or something.

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They're not buying golf.

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They're just getting their own live series of golf events.

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And so he wants Saudi Arabia to get into these other professional sports because he believes

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that the things that he complains about about Muslim culture would then be applied to...

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Right.

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And it would be better.

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What he's saying is that he would rather live in Saudi Arabia than he would live in the

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United States because the United States is too woke and Saudi Arabia kills gay people.

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I mean, I don't know how else to interpret the structure of this joke.

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There's no other way to interpret it other than he is saying that I would prefer for

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fucking Sharia law to be the law of the land than I would for an NBA player to say black

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people exist.

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At least he would like Sharia law to be applied to sport.

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That's true.

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That's fair.

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That's fair.

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That's fair.

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I'll give him that.

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Sport.

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Yeah.

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I mean, what he's saying is like, here's the problem, right?

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NFL and NBA are too woke.

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That's why all of the openly gay players come out after they retire.

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Too much wokeness in the sport.

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That's how it goes.

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That's how it happens.

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So goddamn woke.

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Now, if Saudi Arabia bought them, we wouldn't even need to worry about it, would we?

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There are just like thematic and like idea-based reasons that this joke is pretty weird.

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Right.

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Especially for someone like Owen to be saying it.

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Right.

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But then, even just from a structural standpoint, it doesn't make sense like what would be achieved

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by Saudi Arabia buying golf.

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I mean, if what I'm interpreting is that he wants Saudi Arabia to fuck up people of anything

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but straight white males, then he's doing a bad job of telling a joke about it.

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You know?

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Like from a telling the joke standpoint, if that's what you're trying to say, you're going

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to have to write a better joke.

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Yeah.

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So here is actually, I think, a decent joke.

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It's simple, kind of, but I think it works.

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It's filler.

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And, you know, I really respect Bryson Gray.

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I really do.

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He's one of the few.

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Bryson Gray is one of the few people who actually sticks to his principles.

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And he's actually sacrificed a lot in that process.

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He could have performed at the White House, but he wouldn't sacrifice his principles so

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they didn't let him.

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But I'm a little confused because I follow Bryson, and people are always using racial

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slurs against him.

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You know, they call him a coon, they call him Uncle Tom, and I'm so confused because

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I've seen it and I'm thinking, Bryson's not black, he didn't vote for Joe Biden.

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No, no, no, no.

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I never understood that.

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I'm going to have to talk about that.

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That's a fine joke, because it's calling back to Joe Biden's interview on the campaign trail

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with the Breakfast Club, where he said that you aren't black if you have a problem deciding

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between him and Trump.

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And that was an offensive gaffe that he made, he apologized for it, but yeah, that's making

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fun of something that did happen.

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Maybe it could be rewritten a little bit.

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I don't necessarily think that's a polished joke, but the thing that he's trying to say,

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these people are racist against Bryson Gray, and I don't understand it, but he's not even

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black.

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He didn't vote for Joe Biden.

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Right, right, right.

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That's a fine joke there, and I mean, I'm grading on a scale.

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Yes, no, no, no, I know.

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And for what this is, that's a fine joke, I guess.

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Sure.

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I would get why a MAGA crowd would laugh at that and not be like, what's the joke here?

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I get what the joke is, and I understand why if you're in that space, you might think that's

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funny.

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Right, right, right.

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I mean, okay, if I'm rewriting it, I'm saying you are coming dangerously close to not parodying

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the thing that you're describing, but in fact, being the thing that you're describing insofar

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as you're describing a black person as non-black due to whatever it is you feel like.

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So you're saying, oh, these people are criticizing him for this, and then you're doing the same

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thing only in a positive light.

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So it's not really changing or switching the premise around.

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It's just like, I like it.

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There may be a deeper analysis that you're touching on that I think could be there.

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Sure.

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I'm looking at triviality of standing.

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Okay.

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When we're on that level, it works.

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Okay.

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And I think that stuff like Biden saying that kind of stuff, that's fair game.

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That's what people should be lampooning if you're right-wing comedians.

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Totally, totally.

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That is by all means.

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Yeah, no, that was a fucked up thing to say.

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Make fun of him for it.

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I'm down.

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So here we touch on Owen getting into the hot gun topic.

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Good guy with a gun situation had just happened recently.

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A lot of funny jokes.

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So funny.

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There was just a shooting at the Indiana Mall, I'm sure you guys heard about a shooting at

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the Indiana Mall.

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Very tragic.

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But there was a hero that hit.

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You like Lincoln?

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You like Edgar?

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Save who knows how many lives, right?

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I try to put my head, I try to get into the liberal mindset as if it's a difficult place

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to go.

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Really, I don't suggest it.

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I'm thinking, okay, let's say, let's say a liberal is watching this play out in real

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time.

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All right.

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Psycho killer that they pump full of drugs, comes out with his guns, he's getting ready

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to do the mass shooting, and they're excited, yeah, we're going to get gun control, aren't

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we?

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Too long without a beat, first off.

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We're about to get gun control.

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And they're sitting there on the TV, and then he comes out and he starts shooting, and then

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boom!

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And he goes down.

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What?

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Somebody stopped the shooting?

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What the?

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I thought we took away the guns.

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That wasn't supposed to be stopped.

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We wanted that shooting to go down.

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And that's what they want, how many people have to die for democratic gun control?

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Because that's what they want, and that's the truth.

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Ooh, we forgot the joke.

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Yeah, that's exactly what the right complains about the left in standup and stuff doing,

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which is not being funny and just sort of virtue signaling a point, and then just getting

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claps from the audience who agree with your point.

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You could hear people muttering, there was no laughter at the point where he's doing

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what is presumably an act out of this liberal who wants more people to die in the shooting

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so they can get gun control.

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I mean, just grim, grim.

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You heard somebody whisper, that's what they want.

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This is a call and response pastor.

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This is not a comedy show.

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It's standup, baby.

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No, I disagree.

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Well, if I were in this position on stage, I might bail.

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Or I might get hostile.

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I might turn on the audience.

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We've spoken at length about one of our favorite places to perform comedy in the...

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In Berwyn.

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Yes, in the Berwins of Illinois.

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Cigars and Stripes.

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And there was a, I will call him infamous man who would host the shows and he would

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open by bringing out the worst headlines he could think of, and he'd just go like, three

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people died on the street because it was too hot yesterday, but they wish they had an egg

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and no one would laugh.

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And it'd be like, yeah, that's what you deserve.

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This is horrific.

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That is what I heard.

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And what I realize now is that he was just in the wrong place.

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If our man had gone to wherever Owen's going, he would be on Infowars.

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He might have a show.

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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Well, look, I think that that obviously is a tragic thing to see, but my experience with

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Cigars and Stripes is a hostile place.

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It was not always the best time.

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But there was very rarely a lack of reaction whenever most people were performing.

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Yeah, yeah, yeah.

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No, Owen would have been beat to death by now.

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But that silence, when you're doing a...

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Oh, yeah.

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That's terrifying as a performer.

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If you wish...

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You're committing to this baa character and you're getting nothing.

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Yeah.

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Woo.

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Yeah, yeah.

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Not good.

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Not good.

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No, no, no, no.

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It's the silence that's worse than the yells.

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Yeah.

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The yells of like, you suck.

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You're like, at least I'm here.

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We can work with this.

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At least I'm here.

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Yeah.

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The silence is like, are you watching TV right now?

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The silence is why you've got to retreat to that like, making a political point to get

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applause and bring things back into a like, all right, I'm actually here eliciting a response

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from these people.

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Yeah.

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Okay.

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We can maybe try again.

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Yeah.

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And so he stays on the shooting subject and he talks a little bit about Yuvaldi and how

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the police didn't respond.

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If I was writing the set list, might change a couple things.

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Yeah.

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I have to tell you, I have one of the dumbest tweets in front of me you're ever going to

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see right here from Stephanie Rule.

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I'm sure you know about Stephanie Rule, MSNBC, probably not worth your time, but she says

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this.

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She says, if 400 trained police officers weren't prepared to engage, what's the argument for

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arming kindergarten teachers?

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Maybe the fact that 400 police officers wouldn't respond is the reason reaching armed teachers.

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That again is just virtue signaling to gun shit with like arming the teachers.

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But like, I mean, I guess if you're in that space and you really believe that arming teachers

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is the solution, and that's kind of the solution of all of this.

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Just arm everybody.

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Yeah, yeah, yeah.

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Put everybody with a gun in their hand.

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Well, because it's going to take five minutes for the police to show up even under perfect

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circumstances and that five minutes you need to shoot somebody.

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You need to shoot somebody.

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Fine.

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Whatever.

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I get that that's your belief system.

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Right.

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But I think that just looking at it through clear and sober eyes, 400 police not responding,

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the teacher being unarmed is not the problem.

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Right.

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There's an other problem.

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Right.

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There's a much bigger problem, and that is the 400 police.

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No idea what you're talking about.

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No, see, if the teacher had just been better is what he's saying.

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Well, if the teacher had had access to guns to be better, sure.

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Well, and honestly, then you have to ask yourself, why didn't the teacher take it upon themselves

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to just be armed anyway?

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Yeah, no, I mean, Owen is just basically saying that if your students die, it's your fault

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as the teacher.

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The inactivity of the police is not an indication of a systemic problem.

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What do you expect them to do?

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Right.

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They're working.

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Yeah, I don't know, I get that this is pandery, but it's not that it's not thought out in

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the way that some of these other bits are.

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Right.

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It's just fan service.

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I mean, it's because I think he thinks there's the turn.

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He thinks that the turn is you say 400 police officers and then you put it on the single

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teacher.

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You know, that's the turn.

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I guess.

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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And it doesn't actually make sense.

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It's more structured like a Norm Macdonald joke where the premise and the punchline are

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the same sentence, you know, but it's not funny because it doesn't make any sense.

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Yep.

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Yeah.

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So we get to talking a little bit about abortion, the hot topics all over the place, but this

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is actually more about abortion protesters.

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Oh.

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How many of you guys have seen my videos where I go out on the streets and we have the crazy

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liberals?

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A good comic references his own videos.

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Yes.

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You know, the reason why I do that is because it exposes who they are, what they are, but

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how do they think this is a winning argument?

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And they show up and they got like women are naked and they cover themselves in blood and

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then they blew themselves to tennis courts and then they blew themselves to basketball

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hoops and then they blew themselves to Starbucks bars.

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Have you seen the new one?

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They cement instant concrete and they submit their hands onto roads and they have to come

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in with a jacket and it was like, it's worth losing my hand.

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I noticed the liberal man.

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That's a separate, that's a separate thing, but they think this is a good argument.

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They think acting like psychos and trying to disrupt civilization is a good argument.

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I don't think so.

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I think it's a losing argument actually.

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So I don't think that's going to happen.

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I'm confused because there's not really a joke other than calling to mind what he, how

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he wants to characterize abortion protesters.

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And then the statement that he's making is I think their tactics are ineffective.

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Yes.

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That's like, there's no joke.

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What he needed to do at the end there is like what they should do is or something like that.

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And then have some funny idea of what they should do to protest that would get a message

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across or something or, or, or heighten a parody of, I don't know, whatever.

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I'm not going to, I'm not going to write the act for him, but he, after complaining about

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these tactics being ineffective, the audience is kind of expecting a joke.

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You've established the premise and now you follow up.

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We've been doing this for hundreds of years.

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How jokes work.

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If you establish a premise in the context of being a comedian, then you have to follow

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it up with a punchline.

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Yeah.

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Of some sort other than like, I think that's dumb.

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What I, what I didn't realize really until just now is like people who watch stand up

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but don't do it right when they, they don't realize that the biggest lie a comedian says

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is I don't understand.

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Like if you are writing a joke, when you say, I don't understand, it's because at the end

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of the joke, you will have made a point because secretly you always understood the whole time.

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You have to understand in order to walk through the, it's the same thing with people say that

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you have to be really smart to play a dumb person in a movie.

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You know, like that, um, uh, I think that, yeah, obviously, yeah, obviously, and, and,

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but he doesn't actually understand what he's talking about.

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So he's like, I'm killing it, you know, and you have to have a larger point.

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I think that just, this is dumb.

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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Like I think that's trite.

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And, and if you're expecting to carry you on stage, you are sorely mistaken.

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It works for Alex though, not on stage.

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We saw that.

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That was a long time ago.

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It was a long time ago.

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It might work now.

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It was a different time.

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Yeah.

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It was a different time.

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I think when he was a guest on Kill Tony, it largely worked.

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Oh, that's, that's brutal.

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So, uh, we get to international affairs.

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This is terrible.

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It is.

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This is terrible.

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It's not much longer.

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Okay, good.

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But it is terrible.

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Oh my God.

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Now you see the prices increasing, prices increasing of gas, prices increasing in groceries,

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pricing and the energy, everything and people that did it go on TV saying we're going to

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do so.

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We're lowering the prices.

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We're helping you out.

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Yeah.

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It's a record.

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It's a record consumer price increase and bruiser price increase.

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It's all records, but we're helping you.

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Yeah.

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We shut the gas off.

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We shut the pipelines down, but oh, you notice when Putin shuts the pipeline down and going

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to Europe, what do they say?

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Putin commits an act of war.

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Putin, Putin in doomsday scenario, shuts off gas to Europe.

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Putin could be responsible for millions of Germans freezing to death or dying of heat

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exhaustion.

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Back to home, doomsday, and then we go back to America and so today's good news, Joe Biden

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shut off another pipeline.

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You just told me that was an act of war.

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You just told me that was good thing.

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Oh, when Biden does it, it's okay.

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It's okay.

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Kind of like if you did anything that they do at these gay pride parades, have you seen

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this stuff?

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You've seen this stuff?

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Wow.

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Wow.

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No laughter there.

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No.

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But jokes like this are supposed to work on a level where you juxtapose two analogous

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things and the comparison between the two is immediately striking.

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By positioning them in contrast with each other, you reveal how similar things are treated

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differently.

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For instance, you can look at historical sentencing trends between crack and cocaine or sentencing

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trends between white and black people who commit similar crimes and by doing so you

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reveal a hidden truth about society.

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That's kind of what Owen thinks he's doing here by saying that when Putin chooses to

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close a pipeline, it's bad, but when Biden does it, it's good.

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But the problem with this is that these aren't analogous situations.

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What Owen is referring to is the Keystone XL pipeline.

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This is a private company, TC Energy, that had applied for a permit to build this pipeline

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and were rejected by Obama in 2015.

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Trump invited them to try again and he approved it and then Biden withdrew the permits when

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he became president.

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That raw sand oil from Canada will still make its way to refineries in the US, but it won't

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be done with this pipeline that endangers surrounding areas with spillage and all sorts

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of other concerns.

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As for Putin, he's threatening to literally cut off oil supplies to areas of Europe that

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rely on that oil to provide essential services.

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This is not a matter of convenience and profit, like with the Keystone XL, it's a situation

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where someone is actually restricting access.

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These situations are so completely different that Owen's joke is confusing as a statement

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and the only really, the way that this can be construed as funny is if you imagine that

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Owen is doing a character who's a parody of his own ideology meant to highlight how superficial

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their understanding of issues is and how they celebrate their own willful ignorance.

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But it's not that.

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Owen is just dumb and his understanding of this stuff is superficial and he celebrates

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his own willful ignorance and expects an audience to applaud for it.

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It's really bizarre.

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The only thing that you can really, if you understand the subject that's being discussed,

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the only conclusion you can really take away from the point of that joke is, I like Putin

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and I don't like Biden.

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Right.

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That's basically it.

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Yep.

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Yep.

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It's very weird.

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Yeah.

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I mean, I know people think that comedians are stupid and for good reason.

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We've earned it.

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Many are.

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Yeah.

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No doubt about that.

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But what we do is think very, very hard about what we're going to say on stage, regardless

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of how your intelligence is beyond that.

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And so people who you might think are like, unable to do long division are still capable

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of coming up with intense insights through this medium by focusing on something very,

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very well and understanding it in its totality.

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And through trial.

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Trial and error is such a large part of being able to deliver jokes.

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And basically what you're seeing here is somebody who's not respecting the idea of doing stand

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up.

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So if you have a joke like this, if you thought it made sense and you went out to open mics

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and tried it a few times, you didn't get a response, you might just start questioning,

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does it not make sense?

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Is there something I'm missing about this?

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And then just sort of instinctually, you try to figure a way to readjust the things that

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you're saying, figure out how to tell the point that you think you're trying to make

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in a different way to elicit a response from the audience because they will then understand

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what you're saying.

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Yes.

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I mean, just beyond the more elevated ways of looking at how comedians write jokes, here's

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a simple one.

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If you think you have too many words, you have three times as many words as you should.

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And I mean, he needs to get rid of 90% of his words.

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Much like with the documentary.

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Yeah.

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Trim it down.

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Trim it down.

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So you hear about this pride parade?

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I forgot that's what he went for.

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Hear about that stuff?

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Immediately after dead silence.

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Y'all hear about this pride parade?

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Yeah.

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Let's hear some thoughts.

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Let's hear some thoughts.

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Okay.

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If you did anything that they do at these gay pride parades, have you seen this stuff?

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Yeah.

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Have you seen this stuff?

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I was thinking too, if you think that going to one of these things is going to want to

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make your kids gay, I think you got another thing coming.

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I think they're going to be scared to death of clowns or something the rest of their life.

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I don't really think it's a sex thing.

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Or imagine you walk into a baseball game and there's a drag queen story time show going

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on with your six-year-old son and your son says, daddy, I'm going to make you gay.

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I'm going to make you gay.

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I'm going to make you gay.

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I'm going to make you gay.

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I'm going to make you gay.

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I'm going to make you gay.

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So that's an interesting attempt at a call back to the earlier joke about Saudi Arabia

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buying golf.

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Right.

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Which I admire him trying.

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It didn't really land as well as I think he wanted it to.

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He did at least attempt a callback, which is second belt, yellow belt level.

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Now there's an entirely flawed premise in this joke and that is that he's contradicting

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his entire worldview that is going to these pride parades is an attempt to make kids gay.

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That is their whole grooming thing.

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That's the idea.

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So you're negating everything that you say not on stage.

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Yes.

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In order to, I guess, call people at pride parades, clowns.

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I suppose.

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Is that the joke?

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Is the joke about how the people at the pride parade are clowns?

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Well, there's one point and that is that you couldn't get away with the stuff that they

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get away with, which is just the victim hood and persecution complex expression.

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Yeah, but he's not even really like what?

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Get away with what?

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Shut up.

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Yeah.

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Well, that's the way into the joke.

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Sure.

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Sure.

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Sure.

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I see that.

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So you'll be afraid that they're clowns.

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You'll be afraid of clowns because everyone looks like clowns.

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And then baseball's too gay.

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I mean, really, you're going to say that you've thought about this.

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You're Owen Schroyer.

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Then after you thought about it and said it on stage, you decided to post this to the

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internet so other people could see it.

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And let me be clear.

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The only reason I'm treating this this way is because it's labeled Owen Schroyer's standup

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special.

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It's not your fault.

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So it's an attempt at standup and these are bits.

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This isn't something that he's just talking off the dome.

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There's a callback there.

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There's joke structure in some of these things that he's saying.

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There is preparation as shitty as it may be.

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And that's why I'm treating it-

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I mean, there's more preparation for this shit than there was for the trial.

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Probably.

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And so that's why I'm giving it the business in terms of treating it like it's someone

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trying to do standup because it is.

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Stay out of our fucking world, Owen.

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If you want to walk in here, you're going to have to learn how to write a joke.

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But at the same time, I would like to make clear that I have given it up on a couple

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of occasions where there's like, okay, this guy's not black because he didn't vote for

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Biden.

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Absolutely.

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That's a fine joke.

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The flight of fancy about Hunter buying a camera to film a crack deal had potential.

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I'm not saying none of this works.

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I'm just saying almost all of it doesn't work.

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And I mean, it's just, you know, like you're, you're taking a very good supportive tack

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towards the way, and this is kind of how we treat young, newer comedians differently as

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we both aged in standup.

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I did my best to it, disencourage anyone from ever trying to, to do, I've focused on all

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the bad jokes.

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I really went into your face.

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I was like, this is why this is bad.

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I have no idea where you're getting the idea that I was supportive.

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I'm just kidding.

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I wanted to hide from everyone.

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Don't talk to me.

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Um, so we have one last joke here, like, uh, like I said at the beginning, open strong

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close strong.

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Right.

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You can get away with a good deal of this meandering nonsense in the middle.

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If you come in with like, just burn in the house, hot fire, and then a closer, if your

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closer is 10 minutes and it's really good, you can do a bad 20 in the middle and you'll

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be fine.

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And I guess we, I would say that his opening was weak because it was mostly that Biden

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cancer chunk.

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Yeah.

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You know?

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Yeah.

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And I don't think that really played.

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Um, so here's the,

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despite the sounds strong stuff, consonants.

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That's what it's all about.

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There's an old cartoon that always sticks with me and it's when aliens, they come down

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and they see on TV and I was thinking, you know, that's not us, right?

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That's not us.

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Somebody shows up and says, take me to your leader.

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We don't hold the television up.

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We don't hold false idols up.

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Well, if that was, if that was odd, Oh my God, that's the funniest thing he's ever said

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by a mile.

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It certainly elicited the largest response from the audience of any of the things, any

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of his bits.

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Ooh.

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Yeah.

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No, the problem is he meant it.

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Yeah.

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That's why it's terrible.

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Yeah.

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That's why it's a weird sort of expression.

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It's like a, uh, someone saying like at the end of their set, like, let me be serious

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for a minute here.

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Yeah, totally.

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Except there isn't the misdirect of, there's a joke after the seriousness.

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No, he's just saying this and it's again, incidentally, the funniest thing that he's

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ever said.

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I can't imagine a funnier thing to think than like if aliens come down to earth and ask

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you to take you to their leader.

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You hand them the Bible, what kind of insane worldview is that where you're like, not only

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am I not joking about that, but all of these people are going to clap and scream how great

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I am for doing that.

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That is amazing.

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This is, this is Owen's closer too.

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And what is that except an expression of virtue signaling to Christianity?

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I mean, it's literally the Bible being virtue signaled to aliens, to alien Calvin and Hobbes

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out of your mouth.

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Oh, and there is nothing he should have done to take me to your dealer or 20.

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There's nothing about this.

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That is an attempt to being funny is just demonstrating your virtue to an audience and

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them applauding for it.

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This is exactly what like he has gone on rants people on info wars, the Jordan Peterson's

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of the world.

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I'll talk about this being the cancer of the left and how they approach being fun.

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They're killing humor.

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Oh yeah.

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Look at this bullshit.

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Yeah.

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No, it's doing a worse version of all the exact same things.

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Yeah.

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I mean, this is really, really tragic.

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This is tragically bad.

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Yeah.

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I mean, the problem is, the problem is this is a man who is posting that video.

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Well, someone did.

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Yeah.

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Someone did.

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Someone chose to.

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Well, I guess he allowed it.

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I mean, I assume if I, if I had that on my record, it would be gone.

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I would be telling the, I would, I would talk to the, I would talk to the producers of the

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show.

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I have talked to producers of the show in the past who recorded it.

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And I told them, don't play this because I am embarrassed of how bad it is.

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This has happened to me in the past.

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Sure.

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Yeah.

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I, yeah.

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I think that Owen should have, but like it's clicks, man, you know, you'll get some clicks.

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Ooh.

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That's not how I want them.

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No.

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So anyway, I thought we could use a little bit of a momentary breath of something different

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than the trial and the documentary is a delight to talk shop.

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So I think that, um, I don't know, I, I'm, I don't think Owen's getting JFL.

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I'll say that.

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I agree.

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I agree.

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I honestly think that based just on, uh, talent and merit, that wouldn't even fly at a bad

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local show in Chicago.

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That would be, that would have, that would struggle to get a response at an open mic.

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And I think that another thing to recognize is the hubris of doing 18 minutes.

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18 minutes.

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If you're Owen.

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18 minutes.

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18 minutes.

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Dan.

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Yeah.

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Dan, how many, how many producer stories do both of us have along the lines of somebody's

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like, um, so I've got 40 minutes of material.

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I really want to go up on your show.

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Uh, it is my first time doing standup comedy, but I know it's going to be great.

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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This is that.

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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This is that.

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I'm recognizing that, um, standup is something like boxing in as much as like, it seems like

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a shorter time than it actually is.

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Yes.

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Like a three minute round is a lifetime in the boxing ring and a five minute set is tough

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to fill.

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If you care about it being good, entertaining for the people you're talking to exactly at

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18 minutes is a fucking lifetime.

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So Jordan, we have seen the cuck destroyer destroy stand up.

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Oh boy.

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Has he been cucked?

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Yeah.

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And, uh, we'll be back with something else.

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Who knows when surprising periodic downloads, we're like Rogan now.

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We're everywhere.

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No schedule.

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Everywhere.

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You can't turn away from us.

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Texas.

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Morning.

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Evening.

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Texas freedom.

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Um, but yeah, we'll be back.

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But until then we have a website.

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Indeed we do.

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It's knowledgefight.com.

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We're also on Twitter.

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We are on Twitter.

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It's at knowledgefight.com.

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Now go to bed Jordan.

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Yep.

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We're also, well, we'll be back.

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Oh, look.

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Yeah.

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We'll be back.

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I'm Leo.

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I'm Leo.

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I'm DZX Clark.

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I hope you all have a wonderful dreamy creamy summer.

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And now here comes the sex robots.

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You're on the air.

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Thanks for holding.

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Hello Alex.

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