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N-N-N-N-N-N-N-Knowledge Fight
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Dan and Jordan, I am sweating.
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Knowledgefight.com, it's time to pray.
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I have great respect for knowledgefight.
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Knowledgefight.
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I'm sick of them posing as if they're the good guys, saying we are the bad guys.
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Knowledgefight.
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Dan and Jordan.
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Knowledgefight.
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Need money.
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Andy in Kansas.
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Andy in Kansas.
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Stop it.
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Andy in Kansas.
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Andy in Kansas.
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It's time to pray.
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Andy in Kansas.
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You're on the air.
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Thanks for holding.
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Hello, Alex.
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I'm a first time caller.
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I'm a huge fan.
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I love your room.
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Knowledgefight.
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Knowledgefight.com.
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I love you.
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Hey everybody, welcome back to Knowledgefight.
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I'm Dan.
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I'm Jordan.
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We're couple dudes.
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I'd like to sit around where I should put the altar of Selene and talk a little bit
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about Alex Jones.
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Oh, indeed we are.
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Dan.
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Jordan.
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Dan.
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Jordan.
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Quick question for you.
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What's up?
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What's your bright spot, buddy?
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My bright spot today, Jordan, is of course the dreamy, creamy summer, which is in full
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effect.
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Nonstop.
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I think I've stopped a little bit.
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There's a few stops.
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Yes.
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But yeah, it's been pretty good.
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I got to say though, everything has been good.
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That's ice cream.
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But I'm looking for something that's really going to blow my mind or be like, this sucks.
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Absolutely.
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And I've not found that yet.
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And I think I am somebody who is a bit of a traditionalist sometimes and I'm having
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some of these non-dairy options, the Yasso bars, the Greek yogurt.
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Those are fantastic.
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Sure.
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But those are off the beaten path.
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In fact, maybe someone like me who's a stick in the mud would be like, this is not the
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ice cream I know.
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True.
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And I think they've been great.
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Great to find in the mix.
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I don't know.
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I wish that I had something to report as like, this is fantastic.
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Yeah, but see, that's the thing about the mustards and the seltzers is that you can
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really fuck up a mustard or a seltzer.
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True.
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It's tough to fuck up an ice cream, man.
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I don't agree with that at all.
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The baseline is just fine.
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I don't.
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The baseline ice cream is pretty good.
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I don't know.
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I think you could have some real...
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I mean, you got lavender ass ice cream shoving up your...
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I don't have a problem with lavender ass ice cream.
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Oh, I hate lavender ass ice cream.
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I hate lavender ass ice cream.
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I think that you can have some flavor problems and maybe if that's lavender for you, then
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so be it.
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It is.
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Yeah, I don't know.
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I think you can also just have some poorly made stuff too.
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Sure, sure.
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But yeah, we'll see what ends up happening.
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But you can find our pictures of all the ice creams.
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Yes, on our Instagram account.
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Yeah, which you run, which is kind of a problem because I have to send you pictures of the
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ice cream that I'm eating and then you post it.
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No, it's even more ridiculous than that because you send them to me and because of the way
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that I have the account set up, I don't have it on my phone.
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So then I have to email the pictures to my own email address in order to put it...
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Oh, it's bad.
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There's a lot of steps here that are unnecessary and we're not going to change anything about
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it.
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Not a single step.
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But I am going to start giving you actually like a little bit of a synopsis of how I feel
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about it.
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Okay, that's good.
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Yeah.
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That would be helpful.
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Because as it stands now, it's just like you coming up with a caption like, who knows if
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Danny would enjoy this?
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Nope, no questions.
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Just the dreamy, creepy summer happens.
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Yeah.
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Okay, so we're going to change that, but not a horrible process.
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No.
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So what about you?
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My bright spot, Dan, is for the first time in 20 years, after having been put on my partner's
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insurance, I went to the doctor.
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I went to the doctor.
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First time in 20 years?
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20 years.
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That's a little much.
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Why?
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Look, I am not the most regular of medical attendees, let's say or whatever, but I have
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been more recently than that.
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I'm not good at it.
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That's a long time.
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I'm not good at the doctor.
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I'm not good at it.
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Yeah, I nearly threw the paperwork at them.
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It was bad.
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It was bad.
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Yeah, it's a little annoying.
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But I mean, as you get a little bit older, I think it becomes far more important that
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you-
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Seems like it.
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Yeah, make some regular appearances.
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Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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So far, doing good.
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Doing good.
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20 years has not hurt me.
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All of my habits, he said, were perfect and I should continue at the rate that I'm going.
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Don't dial back at all.
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Yeah, I feel like-
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Told me to start smoking again.
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It was a wild, wild visit.
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I feel like everybody who listens is like, that guy probably has great blood pressure.
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He seems like he's just mellow.
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Oh, do you know what's crazy?
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My blood pressure is absolutely perfect and always has been.
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120 over 80.
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You're saying perfect a lot here.
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120 over 80.
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Nonstop, good, perfect.
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Did you go to Trump's doctor?
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I don't mean to cast aspersions.
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Okay, okay.
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So under an overpass or over an overpass, I feel like the doctor's quality is the same,
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right?
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Yeah.
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So Jordan, today we are in the present day.
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We're talking about a present day episode.
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We're talking about May 9th, 2022.
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That's Monday to you.
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Ah, there we go.
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Yeah, sure.
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I have to be honest with you.
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What?
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I find it difficult to listen to him in the present day.
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Not because of how awful he is, although that is certainly a challenge.
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Difficult.
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Because I haven't gotten an explanation for why we're not all dead already.
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You know, the globalist plans are too much.
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We can't stop it.
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It's already too late.
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I'm still in that head space, so when I'm listening to Alex's trivial ass bullshit about
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headlines that he hasn't read the articles to, I just don't know what's going on anymore.
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Well, see, the problem there is that you're still in that head space, right?
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Because you were in that head space when you were listening to that, and in the intervening
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time period, you received zero million dollars.
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That is true.
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So you're not in the good head space where you're like, we've got another shot to beat
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him, guys!
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I think that if I got a couple million dollars, like Alex did, I think I would still have
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questions.
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I think you would probably spiral out of control.
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Well, I mean, probably.
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But I would be like, wahoo, I've got a couple million dollars.
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Right.
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Now hold on.
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Yeah.
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We're all dead already.
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Let's get back to that.
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How do we do that?
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But yeah, we're just pretending that didn't happen, I guess.
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That's a way to do it.
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So here we are.
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Yep, children.
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Let's get down to business on this, but first Jordan, let's say hello to some new wonks.
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Oh, that's a great idea.
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So first, Smoochie, thank you so much, you are now a policy wonk.
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I'm a policy wonk.
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Thank you very much, and death to you.
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Next, American citizen who joined a cult led by two Australian guys who talk media, would
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Alex consider me a traitor?
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Thank you so much, you are now a policy wonk.
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I'm a policy wonk.
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Thank you very much!
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Next, Betsy wants to hear the drop of Alex insisting he knows how to read.
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Please, it's my birthday.
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Thank you so much, you are now a policy wonk.
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I'm a policy wonk.
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No.
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Fine.
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I.
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Know.
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How.
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To.
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Read.
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Thank you so much.
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Thank you very much.
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Next, Kalen Sandel.
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Thank you so much, you are now a policy wonk.
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I'm a policy wonk.
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Thank you very much!
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Might be Sandel.
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Sandel.
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Next, kegi, but not the beer thing.
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Thank you so much, you are now a policy wonk.
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I'm a policy wonk.
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Thank you very much!
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Thank you very much!
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A little kegi.
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My doctor told me to have a little kegi.
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Yeah, a little kegi stand?
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Yeah, a little kegi stand.
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Finally, we've got a technocrat in the mix, Jordan, so thank you so much.
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Two wonkers of the world unite.
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You are now a technocrat.
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I'm a policy wonk.
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I have risen above my enemies.
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I might quit tomorrow, actually.
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I'm just going to take a little breaky now.
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A little breaky for me, and then we're going to come back, and I'm going to start the show
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over.
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But I'm the devil!
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I've got to be taking all this hair off, and all this blah, blah, blah.
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Fuck you!
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Fuck you!
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I've got plenty of words for you, but at the end of the day, fuck you and your new world
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order, and fuck the horse you rode in on, and all your shit!
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Maybe today should be my last broadcast.
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Maybe I'll just be gone a month, maybe five years.
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Maybe I'll walk out of here tomorrow, and you never see me again.
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That's really what I want to do.
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I never want to come back here again.
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I apologize to the crew and the listeners yesterday that I was legitimately having breakdowns
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on here.
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I'll be better tomorrow.
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He's not.
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He has some troubles today.
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And I think that there is one thing that happens on this episode that's notable, and it is
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a protracted sort of breakdown that Alex has in the middle of the show.
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We'll get to that, but he starts off in a more contemplative mood, talking about his
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favorite thing.
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Movies.
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Why do you think so many movies, including James Bond movies, and The Kingsman, and just
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countless others...
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Logan's Run.
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It's all three movies.
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There's so many.
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Twelve Monkeys.
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There's hundreds.
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Talk about global elites wanting to release a virus to depopulate you, because that's
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really their operating system, and everybody in Hollywood knows it.
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And if you want to be part of the club, you've got to go along with that idea.
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So they tell you through the movies.
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But this isn't a 1960s movie, or a 1970s movie, or a 1980s movie, or a movie in the 90s and
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the 2000s.
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This is the real planet that we live on.
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And this is happening now.
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If you're trying to make a list of these movies that prove that the globalists are trying
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to use films to announce to the public that they're planning to depopulate the planet,
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and the third entry on your list is Zardoz, I don't think that you have a good list here.
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Okay.
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I think your point may be hurt by your own list.
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Sure.
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Now, you say that, but I do recall in the Book of Revelations that The Horseman of War
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looks an awful lot like Sean Connery in Zardoz.
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It may be.
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I mean, there's interpretations that do say that, but look, I don't know, I've never actually
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seen that movie.
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Me neither.
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I've just heard people talk about it.
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But I don't think it has to do with a population die off by elites using a bioweapon.
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No idea.
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Maybe it is.
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I'm not sure.
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All I know is that shot of Sean Connery with a gun.
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Yeah, there's only one shot.
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There's no reason to have a movie beyond that shot.
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So there's tons of more widely used plots and antagonists in movies, like serial killers.
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That's a plot that people use all the time.
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Yeah.
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Alien invasions.
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Did you know that globalists are going to serial kill each of us one by one?
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And have an alien invasion.
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Yep.
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And zombies.
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Independence Day.
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And vampires.
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Yep.
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And natural disasters.
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Zombies and vampires versus Abraham Lincoln.
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And natural disasters.
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Yep.
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Yep.
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The reason that there are a number of movies that use a villain planning to kill people
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with some kind of biological weapon is because it's a way to create really large stakes that
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the protagonist has to face.
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It makes it all the more important that the villain be stopped because the rippling damage
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that their success would cause is huge.
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Yeah.
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Conversely, the post-bioweapon dystopia is a good way to create a setting for a story
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where there can be less people around, like a ton less people, but the environment isn't
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really changed.
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Right.
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Which sometimes is easier on a budget.
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It can be.
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Yeah.
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When you're filming a movie and you've written some script and maybe there's a lot of stuff
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in there and maybe you're just like, hey, how about we write in that it's cheaper to
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make in the script?
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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Like 28 days later, you don't have to change the environment at all.
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No, no, no.
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You just have less people and more zombies running around.
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Yeah, absolutely.
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I mean, it's basically the same amount of people.
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So you've got a lot of these things that Alex thinks are predictive and what the globalists
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are telling you is going to happen, but Alex is ready to tell you what the actual plan
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is.
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We know what the plan is.
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We're already dead.
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What is the plan?
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The plan is, oh God, I have no idea.
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Well there's a new plan.
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Okay.
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And it's actually a good movie, but the real model they're going to use for control over
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a city population is going to be a mix of Brave New World, THX 1138, 1984, and of course
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children of men, we haven't seen children of men, you'll need to see it, they're telling
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you exactly what they're going to do there.
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Wait.
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A chemical in the water supply that sterilizes you.
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But so they can't pinpoint one thing that hit you with chemicals in the water that sterilize
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a large percentage, injections that sterilize a large percentage, GMOs that sterilize, aluminum
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dioxide, aerosol spraying.
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So look, was it stuff in the water that made people...
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No idea.
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I don't think that's...
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I think it was kind of pointedly unexplained.
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Yes.
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Yeah.
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It was like a, we don't know why all of a sudden everybody couldn't have children and
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then one person could and we're like, oh my God.
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Yeah.
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That was the point.
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That was the whole thing.
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Yeah.
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I don't remember a third act reveal where it's like, oh, the nefarious people put stuff
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in the water to make people not have kids, especially considering that the people in
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charge really wanted the person who could have kids because...
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Super important.
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Yeah.
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Because then you could continue...
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Then you could have the whole species continue.
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Right.
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Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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It's really important.
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Yeah.
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I don't know.
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It seems like it wasn't in the sort of Cabal's interest or the power structure's interest
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within the movie.
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I don't know.
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Anyway, those pieces of dystopian fiction that Alex listed there, they're largely incompatible
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with each other.
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For a future similar to The Brave New World to come to be, essential elements of what
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makes children of men a dystopia could not have happened.
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Can't happen.
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For example.
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Right.
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It's just they are mutually exclusive.
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That said, this is kind of a different doomsday fantasy for Alex.
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He talks about the globalist attacking reproduction sometimes, which is just kind of his version
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of the white nationalist talking points about declining white birth rates.
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But it usually doesn't end up being the end all be all of the globalist plans.
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That's usually just like a side project that they're working on.
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Also, why would the globalists make it so no one can have kids if their whole thing
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is abusing children?
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Like, if they derive their power from hurting kids and drinking their blood so they can
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appease Satan, wouldn't it be self-defeating to create a children of men scenario?
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I'd love to see how Alex would explain that glaring plot hole.
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I guess they farm them.
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How?
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You know.
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What?
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With the, you know, when they do fish farms, you put them in nets.
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I think that you do the same thing with babies.
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That's where they come from.
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Well, but I considered this whole thing of like, well, maybe you'd have synthetic robot
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children.
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Right, right, right, right, right.
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But it's the, Alex's whole thing is it's about torturing a soul is what abuses Satan.
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In order to get the, yeah, yeah, yeah.
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And in order to get adrenochrome.
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Right.
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Or to scare a child and if you just had synthetic children, it wouldn't work.
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I just don't think it's fair for you to fucking outlaw abortion and then be like, well, it's
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gonna be a children of men scenario.
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Like fuck you!
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No!
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It is a little annoying.
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No!
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It's a little annoying.
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Unfair!
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Also, a small note, when Alex says aluminum aerosol spraying at the end there, he's saying
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chemtrails in a way that he wants to make it look like he's not saying chemtrails.
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That's what he was saying.
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Yes, he was definitely saying chemtrails.
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Cool, cool, cool, cool.
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He's like an asshole.
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Yeah, he sucks.
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Coward.
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Yep.
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So, hey, look, the humans are gonna be killed off.
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We're all gonna be killed off.
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Sure.
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But not just us.
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Wait, not just us?
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Well, I mean, yeah, the biosphere is going to fucking die in like five years.
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Ninety percent of all species are going to go extinct within the next five to ten years.
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And you know who that's really gonna hit hard?
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People.
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The bugs.
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Damn!
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The same thing's happening when you go on a trip in the summer or in the spring and
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you live in places that have a lot of bugs like Minnesota or Texas or Florida.
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And just 25 years ago, when I would drive to our family ranch in East Texas in the spring
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or summer, I would have to pull over repeatedly and get a squeegee at a gas station in a three
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and a half hour trip and squeegee dead bugs off or they would harden like hardened egg
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if you leave it in the bottom of a plate.
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You know how hard it is to get out.
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Your guts would harden on the windshield.
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Now I can drive in the spring or summer in Texas and there might be one bug on my windshield.
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One bug.
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This makes it sound like Alex has had some experience with his car being egged.
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That's what I got from that.
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Yeah, well, that's fair.
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So many scientists do believe that insect populations are declining, but Alex's windshield
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is not really the best gauge for that.
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Not very scientific.
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It tracks that this would be how he would prove his point, though, since everything
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in this show is just anecdotal and based on some fucking hunch Alex has.
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The reality of the insect situation isn't so easy to sum up in a quick blurb, so suffice
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it to say that some species are on a decline and some aren't.
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The numbers are really worrying, except for in the realm of water-based insects, which
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seem to be doing fine.
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They're doing quite well.
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They're going to crush it because everything else is going to die around them and they're
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going to have plenty of food.
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It's possible.
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Yeah, largely what is attributed to this is improvements made to freshwater habitats.
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Freshwater insects are doing better because of clean water legislation and regulations.
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Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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Well, we're going to kill them.
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It's really hard to tell exactly what the declines are caused by, but according to an
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article about this in the BBC, quote, scientists say there's no smoking gun on insect declines,
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but they find the destruction of natural habitats due to urbanization to be the key.
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That would make sense.
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The important caveat to make is that this idea of a widespread population decline in
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insects isn't a consensus opinion.
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Almost everyone I can find does believe that there are insect populations that are at risk,
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but there isn't agreement about how universal this is based on the data sets that are available.
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Another thing that does seem to be widely agreed on is that the populations that are
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going down are largely going down due to urbanization, climate change, and modern farming techniques.
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What no one except one guy thinks is that there's a globalist plot to kill all the bugs.
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Right, right, right.
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Yeah, I mean, okay.
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As an uninteresting story, when I was a kid, there were a lot of bugs, and now I'm an adult
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and there are only one bug.
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That's fine.
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But if you use any kind of thing like that to prove a point, you're done, immediately
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done.
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I'm done with you.
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I mean, from what I was reading, there is like, they call it the windshield effect,
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and the people do notice this, so it is something that is a phenomenon that people have in their
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brain.
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Again, and I'm fine with that, but that is still an unacceptable way of making a point
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to me.
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It should make you think like, huh, and then look into it more, as opposed to be like,
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well, this proves it.
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Somebody should not be in a conversation with me being like, no, no, no, here's how I know
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it's true.
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You know?
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Get out of here.
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So Alex is going to get to the news, but he's not.
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So I cover all this other news, and I will.
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The war in Ukraine escalating out of control, and the suppression of Nesha Citizen's film
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2000 Mules that totally proves how they carried out the election fraud.
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What?
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And so much more today, and we're going to take phone calls throughout the four hours.
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But you got to read the Bible about a fallen entity on the planet that's eternal.
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You got to.
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That hates us because we're related to the all powerful, omnipresent being that marooned
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it here, and it is angry at us, and it is attacking us and manipulating us and trying
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to get us to give up our humanity and give up our souls.
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And you can look back and say, well, that's just a book in the Bible that predicted a
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world government with 10 kingdoms and flying ships.
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That's how many there are.
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It's everything you see and a mark in the hand and forehead to buy and sell and the
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breakup of the family and everything that's happening exactly as it's happening.
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I think that if you're trying to express that you believe that the Bible is full of accurate
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predictions and this is what you've got, you're doing a really bad job.
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The first thing Alex points to is world government, which doesn't exist regardless of how many
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times Alex insists that it does.
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The second thing is the Bible says there's going to be 10 kingdoms.
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How many are there, Dan?
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Like, even if Alex is trying to claim that the UN is the world government, there's not
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10 regions in the UN, there are five.
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The African group, the Asia and Pacific group, the Eastern European group, the Latin America
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and Caribbean group, and the Western European and others group.
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I guess if the Bible predicted flying ships, then I have to concede that that one was spot
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on.
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Yeah, I guess.
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There is not a mark in people's hands and foreheads to buy and sell, so that one hasn't
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come true.
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Nope.
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And the family has not been broken up.
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People still have families.
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I've seen them all the time.
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They're everywhere, these families.
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Down the street, I was walking from the train, I saw like five of these families on a windshield.
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And they're in so many TV shows.
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Now, admittedly, when I was a kid, there'd be 30 or 40 families on a windshield.
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Sure.
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Alex is trying to strengthen his argument that the devil is attacking him by pointing
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to these things that the Bible has gotten right, and that's what he comes up with.
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Truth be told, I think that if he knew the Bible better, he could come up with a much
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better list.
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There's a whole lot of text in that book, and there are some things that could be seen
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as accurate predictions, but Alex just doesn't know any of that stuff.
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No.
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The only Bible verses he seems to know are the ones that he can use to support gun rights,
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and ones that he probably read in like a John Birch Society newsletter decrying the one-world
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communist government that Eisenhower was setting up.
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Well, Thomas Jefferson did have a lot to do with writing the Bible, so...
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Yeah, I mean, there's a lot of quotes from Jefferson in that book.
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Yep, good old T.J.
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Psalms is all just Jefferson.
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Yep, definitely.
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So Alex has some feelings about January 6th, of course.
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Sure.
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And he thinks he's gonna be blamed for that whole thing.
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Was it his fault?
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No.
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Certainly not.
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Okay.
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And he has some rebuttals.
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All right.
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Washington Post articles, Wall Street Journal articles, New York Times articles this weekend
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that specifically say the committee is honing in on Roger Stone and Alex Jones for working
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with Trump and directing people to attack the Capitol.
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One hundred percent BS.
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A, we don't have a motive that made us look like fools.
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B, there's no evidence of it because it's not true.
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And C, I wasn't talking to President Trump for over a year before that ever happened,
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and Roger Stone was not involved in any of the planning of even our legal lawful events
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on the 5th or the 6th.
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It's fun how, like, Trump is my buddy, I have his personal phone number, turns to, I hadn't
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talked to him in over a year.
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Never seen that guy.
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When shit gets hot.
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Listen, that guy, frankly, he's an absentee father to me.
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And Roger Stone didn't know shit.
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Roger Stone, how could Roger Stone know anything?
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He wasn't involved in anything.
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What connections does he have to the people who organized the-
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He ran the Stop the Steal stuff in the 2016 election and worked with Ali Alexander on
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the Stop the Steal stuff in the 2020 election.
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Now that looks bad.
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Oh, sure.
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Yeah.
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When Ali Alexander got his fraudulent permit to have his event right next to the White
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House and the Stop the Steal rally there, oh yeah, that's, Roger probably had no idea
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about any of that stuff.
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I'm gonna throw this out at you.
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Probably had nothing to do with it.
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I'm gonna throw this out at you.
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Okay.
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If after the fact you look like a fool, that does not mean you have no motive for the crime.
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No, no, because if it had gone differently, you might not look like a fool.
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You might look like the people in charge of a junta.
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Exactly.
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Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
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That's not a, no, your motive is very clear.
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You wanted to overthrow the United States government.
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Well, maybe not Alex's specifically, but the larger-
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In order to install Trump as permanent dictator.
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The larger community had certainly some of those goals.
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People such as the Oath Keepers.
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Sure.
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And I think Alex is a little bit touchy.
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Never heard of him.
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About communications.
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Never met one.
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Who are they?
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Oath Keepers are talking to prosecutors and they're exposing their communications and
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it's gonna go all the way up to Trump.
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Probably.
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They might as well say there are communications with the Martians.
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And then I know the individuals that they're talking about, because I've seen them in the
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press, I've met some of them.
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And I like Oath Keepers overall, that they had a good mission to promote following your
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oath.
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It's been over a decade.
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I think some bad things happened on January 6th, we're not sure.
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All the specifics.
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Some.
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What we know was a honey pop, a vodka turd.
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Do we?
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But I know some of the people they're quoting here as saying they're talking to the feds
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and are gonna expose the chain of command.
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And I just find it hard to believe that those people would actually make stuff up and lie.
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Who do you know, Alex?
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Oh boy.
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Yeah.
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Who do you know?
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Do you know these Oath Keepers who pled guilty to seditious conspiracy?
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Yeah, man.
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Because Stuart Rhodes isn't saying he's turning.
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Nope.
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Who do you know, Alex?
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Who are you saying you know?
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That's not good.
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That's not good.
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I can't believe these people would lie.
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Oh, so what's the truth they're telling about you?
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Yeah.
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Yeah, so Alex seems a little bit defensive about just the idea, because this I think
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is what's inspiring this conversation on his show, is that there is this news of the Oath
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Keeper, a gentleman who pled guilty, who in the statement of his offense, it does include
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that part of Stuart Rhodes calling somebody to try and get in touch.
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Yes, yeah, yeah.
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I read about that.
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Yeah, yeah.
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And so I think Alex is a little bit touchy about these communications.
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So getting back to where we are, there's all these headlines everywhere.
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Oath Keepers are talking to the feds.
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Oath Keepers are discussing with the feds, conversations with Trump, stuff like this,
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and none of that happened.
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None of that went on, and then the controlled left goes, look, Jones is protecting the Don,
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his mafia boss.
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So wait, Alex said that he hasn't spoken to Trump in over a year at this point, so how
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would he know if there was or wasn't communication between any of the Oath Keeper folks and people
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in Trump's orbit?
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Like, he wouldn't have any idea about that, so this blanket denial isn't persuasive.
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Roger Stone told him that Donald Trump never talked to anybody.
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But Roger wasn't involved in anything that day.
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Well, I mean, sure.
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Roger wasn't involved in that, but he was involved with telling Trump, you know, that...
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Does Alex know from the people who pled guilty to seditious conspiracy that they weren't
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talking to Trump?
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Sure!
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Well, it might be of interest to the committee.
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That's not good.
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That's not good.
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Maybe he should be talking to the committee.
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Could be having trouble here.
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Yeah.
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This could be trouble.
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I would have pled the fifth if I were him.
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On his own show, yeah.
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Yeah.
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I don't know anything about this, but Alex feels hyper-defensive about the idea of Oath
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Keeper communications.
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We know that Stewart tried to get in touch with Trump through an intermediary who refused
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to put him in contact, and there's very, very slim chance that that could be Alex.
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I think that there's a very, very, very tiny chance.
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I would not bet on it.
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I don't think that that's the case.
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I think that Alex is more defensive because if there is like sort of a straighter line
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between Trump and the Oath Keepers, this whole thing looks real bad.
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Well, I mean, god damn, it's terrible to think, but Mark Meadows probably.
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It could just be that Alex recognizes that this is damning stuff and that a guy who's
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been a guest on his show for over a decade was trying to contact the president to have
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him authorize his paramilitary group to overthrow the government by force, and then Alex had
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that guy on his show repeatedly after January 6th to create conspiracy theories about how
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it was really Antifa who did the rioting.
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Right, right, right.
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Whatever the reality is here or what the full shape of it is, there's a nerve that's been
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touched.
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Yeah, well, I mean, we do know, however, that it was a honeypot provocateur who got them
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to do all of that stuff that they wanted to do and were going to do when they got there
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regardless of whether or not there was a honeypot provocateur.
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Right, right.
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Stuart was just trying to get in touch with Trump in order to be like, hey, can I just
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do this honeypot thing?
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Can I take the bait on this?
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I just want to take the bait on this honeypot, you know?
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Listen, they laid out a honeypot, it's delicious.
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I want to put my hand in there.
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I've been trying to get the recipe for this honeypot for a very long time.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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Yep.
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I'm not convinced.
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Here's Roger Stone like Eeyore.
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Oh, bother.
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Oh.
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Wait, that's poo.
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That's poo.
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Yeah.
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Shit.
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That's Eeyore.
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Yeah.
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So Alex goes to commercial and he comes back from break and typically the Greg Rees and
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John Bown reports play in that first segment of an hour where it's not broadcast.
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Right, right, right.
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Where it's not actually real.
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Yeah, but this time he plays a report on the main body of the show from Greg Rees and so
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I accidentally listened to a little bit and oh God.
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The letter from Albert Pike regarding the Illuminati plan for three world wars is largely
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considered a hoax due to the use of the word Nazism in a letter dated 1871.
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But is it?
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But it is interesting to note the desired outcome of this alleged plan.
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Why?
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According to the letter, the third war officially started on 9-11 and was intended to leave
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the people in a state of complete physical, moral, spiritual, and economic exhaustion.
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The letter from 1877.
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They will then use nihilists, atheists, and revolutionaries to create a cataclysm of social
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turmoil and they will do this in order to force the people into exterminating the destroyers
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of civilization.
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According to this letter, this bloodbath would result in the destruction of both Christianity
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and atheism and lead to the pure doctrine of Lucifer as the new world religion.
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And it does appear as if this is happening now.
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Really?
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So the letter doesn't say that it went 9-11, it just says that Muslims and the Zionists
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will clash.
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Oh, fucking fuck me.
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So yeah.
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Great.
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Okay.
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So that's what 9-11 was.
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Broad interpretation.
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That's what 9-11 was.
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It was the Muslims and the Zionists.
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Muslims and the Zionists clashing.
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Gotcha.
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Okay, that makes sense.
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So generally speaking, when I hear anybody bring up Albert Pike, I tune the fuck out
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of that conversation.
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And I have the same response to hearing Greg Reese's voice, but for some reason, I decided
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to listen to a little bit of this and this is amazing.
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It's because of the fucking track.
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That is dope.
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Now I want a Reese and fucking Jamie XX collaboration, man.
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That would be a solid album.
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Featuring Buckley.
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Yeah, absolutely.
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Featuring cousin Buckley.
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Yeah, get it in there.
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So Reese has decided to do a special report where the premise is, hey, this letter is
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definitely a hoax, but maybe it's still prophetic.
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Yeah, right?
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Isn't that the premise?
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What a take.
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Listen, this is bullshit, but what if it's not?
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What an amazing take.
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So the fake letter that Reese is covering is widely understood to be the creation of
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a guy named William Guy Carr, since the earliest form of the letter can be found in his 1958
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book Pawns in the Game.
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Carr was a really influential figure in terms of pushing out some early New World Order
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conspiracy theories, but of course, also is a big old anti-Semite.
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He quoted heavily from the protocols of the Elders of Zion in his books, and his book
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was distributed by Noontide Press, an anti-Semitic publisher that was founded by Willis Cardo,
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the founder of the Liberty Lobby.
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Jesus fucking Christ!
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God dammit!
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He's everywhere.
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These fuckers are everywhere!
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Yep.
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The Press was meant to be the publishing outlet for Cardo's other group, the Institute for
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Historical Review, which is considered one of the largest disseminators of Holocaust
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denial content in the world.
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Perhaps not surprisingly, in 2009, a former Noontide Press employee, James von Bruun,
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carried out a shooting at the Holocaust Memorial Museum.
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So that would make sense.
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I point this out because it's important to understand that the fake letter that Rees
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is talking about isn't just a fake letter.
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It's a fake letter being written by an anti-Semite to push an anti-Semitic conspiracy theory.
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So whether he realizes it or not, what Rees is doing is taking an anti-Semitic hoax, which
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uses earlier anti-Semitic hoaxes as citations, and using it to suggest to his audience that
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while it's demonstrably not a real letter that Albert Pike wrote, maybe there's an underlying
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truth to it.
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Right.
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Which is shitty.
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Right.
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It's like a fucking bacteria evolving in a cesspool.
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You know?
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Just a...
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Oh god.
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What's remarkable about it too is like, why did you do...
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Why is that a special report?
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Is this in the news?
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Whose idea was it?
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Who pitched that in what meeting where?
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I think Greg Rees probably did.
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He has to.
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I think this guy is ambitious.
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What is he...
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What is...
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Why?
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Why?
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Why?
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So when is it a good idea to be like, all right, this obviously fake thing.
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Obviously fake.
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Right.
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Yeah, but what if it was right?
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But I mean, that's kind of how a lot of these conspiracy fucks deal with the protocols the
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elders is eye on.
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They're like, yeah.
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Do they admit it's fake?
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Some do.
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Some don't, some do.
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Oh, I was gonna say.
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I thought most of them still thought it was all the way real.
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I think that people who have more of a mind for optics admit that it's fake because it's
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so very clearly a hoax.
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It's very, very clearly a hoax.
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But the ones that do will fall back on like, yeah, it's a hoax, but it's actually talking
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about stuff that's really going on.
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There's a real dynamic here.
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It is through the medium of hoax that they tell the truth.
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Right, right.
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Right, right, right, right.
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So I think that there's a lot of that trying to save whatever can be salvaged to the wreckage
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of a hoax.
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Sure.
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So Rees is going for the pike hoax.
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Yeah, probably.
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Brutal.
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So this Supreme Court opinion leaked last week.
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Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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People are doing great with it.
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We know that it's Antifa that did it.
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Antifa working as a clerk in a Supreme Court office.
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Oh, it was Antifa who leaked it.
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Yes.
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That's the most important part about all of this, of course, is the sanctity of the opinions
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coming from the Supreme Court.
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I do think that Alex has, for the most part, not made that the headline about the leaked
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stuff.
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Right.
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Not saying, hey, the leak is what's important.
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Right.
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But now Alex is putting on his detective cap.
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He's figured out who did this.
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Who did it?
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Whodunnit.
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Whodunnit.
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Has he gathered all of the suspects there around a table to slowly tease out who did
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the crime?
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I introduce you to Hercule Jones.
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I'm going to tell you exactly what's going on.
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And it's not my opinion.
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We know.
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I believe John Roberts is the one that leaked the draft.
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Wow.
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We agree.
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Mike Milne is a deep standard Democrat posing as a Republican.
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We know that since February of last year, it's come out.
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He sat on the Supreme Court ruling using the power of a chief justice to block the court
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from ruling.
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They began to get very upset about it in the last year.
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And so now it's been leaked to not make Americans come together against the mass mandates, the
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forced injections, the open borders and the inflation and the wars and the pedophilia
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and all the rest of it.
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But to make everybody fight going into the election about abortion.
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Yeah.
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So John Roberts released this in order to get people fighting before the midterms because
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I guess he wants Democrats to win.
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I mean, my theory on why it was John Roberts is because none of the other justices, if
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it is a justice and not like a clerk, which is more likely to be a clerk or something
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along those lines, but if it is a justice, John Roberts is the only one who would do
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it.
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I'm making a weird face at you because I would like you to explain yourself.
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I will explain.
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So the other liberal justices who signed on to the opinion have known what's going on
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for a long time.
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Why would they suddenly choose this point in time to do it, right?
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The conservative justices have been masturbating furiously since they got to sign that, right?
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Nonstop blood everywhere, you know, that kind of thing.
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But John Roberts is, if you look at his career, obsessed with the court itself and trying
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to make sure that it maintains this air of being a legitimate part of the government.
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Right.
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And if they overturn abortion, which they will do, then it's very obvious, even to John
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Roberts, the Supreme Court is fucking stupid.
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Well, but even by your own reasoning, that kind of would be an argument.
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Why Roberts didn't do it, because he's such a fan of the institution of the court that
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he wouldn't leak a document, right?
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But he's the only one who thinks that the opinion could be changed.
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But if you're talking about him honoring the sanctity of the court and all this, then it
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seems like that wouldn't be a behavior he would engage in.
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What?
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Who's going to catch him?
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Uh, you apparently and Alex.
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Well, I mean, yeah, exactly.
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Yes.
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The two most listened to people in the world.
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I think it's more likely that it was a cat burglar that we ruled out that it's possible
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that it was likely that it's a staffer from somebody.
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But if it was going to be a Supreme Court justice who did it, which would be silly.
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Okay.
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So I may go along with you if that's what you're stipulating.
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If you're stipulating to be a Supreme Court justice, maybe he is the most likely candidate
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of Supreme Court justices, but in the totality of possible people, probably not him.
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Yes.
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That is, that's my stipulation.
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But Alex isn't saying that this is an opinion.
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Absolutely not.
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He said he's proven it.
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100% it is him who did it.
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Yes.
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Which I think will be interesting to see how that plays out.
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We'll see.
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So someone who was recently found not guilty.
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Yeah.
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Although I don't think that's actually what happened.
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Right.
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Well, it wasn't Jesus.
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He was found very guilty.
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Marjorie Taylor Greene, though.
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Oh, she was found not guilty?
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Well, she gets to run in her election.
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Why?
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I don't know.
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She did all the crimes they said she did.
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Yeah, I know.
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Speaking of Marjorie Taylor Greene, it was called a big win Friday afternoon when the
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judge said, after putting her through the ringer, that the Democrat party lawsuit trying
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to block her from being able to run for office was unconstitutional.
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Despite its constitutionality.
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She's done nothing wrong.
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She won her last election in a landslide.
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She's an amazing lady of courage, intelligence.
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Greene was facing an accusation of participating in an insurrection, which would have made
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her ineligible to be reelected.
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Right.
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Nothing involving this case was unconstitutional.
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It was just decided that the people prosecuting the case didn't provide sufficient evidence.
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Big picture, though, she lied a whole bunch in that hearing.
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And also she won her last election by a wide margin because it's a district that swings
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heavily Republican and because her opponent had dropped out of the race.
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And I mean, it is, it is very funny how little consequences there are for anything.
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If you have money or power like none, it's, it is disgusting to the point where people
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are losing their minds.
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I think that it's, there should be some sort of a consequence for the blatant lying that
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went on there.
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Well, I do also think that while I agree that she should not be running, um, there should
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be a very high standard that must be met in order to block someone from running for office.
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Right.
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Right.
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Right.
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Because I think that the alternative of allowing that to be done on a sort of roughshod basis,
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I think that the damage that that would do would be really bad.
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Now let me throw this out at you, okay?
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So if somebody was, uh, very clearly there's tons of evidence that she was associated with
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the movement and was in contact with them on that day, right?
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So we've got that established.
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And then the other stuff that we don't have established, we know for a fact she lied about
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on the stand.
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Those two combined, I think are enough.
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Well, if you can't convince a court of that, then that's kind of on you.
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Yes.
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So, well, you know.
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Exactly.
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Um, but look, Alex has some ideas about why she wasn't, uh, found guilty or why she should
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be able to run.
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And once again, I mean, just like on our last episode, we found that he has no idea what
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the constitution says.
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Right.
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And once again, he is showing his ass.
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Bananas.
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Other cases brought against more than a dozen members of Congress, like Gozer and others,
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the judges said it's unconstitutional.
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I'm not going to hear it on its face.
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If they were convicted felons, then you can say they can't run.
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And I think that's even unconstitutional.
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I think once you've done your time, you should be able to run for office.
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I have great news for Alex.
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He doesn't know anything about the constitution because I guess he thinks that people who
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have been convicted of a felony can't run and that's definitely not true, but you can
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also still run for election.
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You can run for any federal office, even if you're a felon.
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And his fact check even points out quote, in 1798, representative Matthew Lyon ran for
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Congress from prison and won.
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He assumed his seat in Congress after serving four months in prison.
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It's different for state level offices, depending on the state, but that doesn't have to do
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with the constitution.
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And Alex is talking about members of the U S Congress.
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So it's all federal level shit.
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He just doesn't know anything about this document that he pretends to love so much and is willing
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to die for.
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No.
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No shit.
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Well, the document keeps people from doing stuff like what he wants to do, so of course
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he doesn't know anything about it.
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You should take a civics class.
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Oh my God.
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That would cause a fucking explosion.
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He might resign from his own job that he runs himself.
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He would resign from that class.
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As it relates to the case against Gosar, this was a judge from Phoenix who dismissed the
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suit that was seeking to bar him, Andy Biggs and Mark Fincham from being on the ballot
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because they participated in an insurrection.
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The judge interpreted the rule that's included in the 14th amendment to require a conviction
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for participation to bar someone from running.
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So that case was thrown out.
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Different States make different decisions.
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So this with Marjorie Taylor Greene, that was how a judge in Georgia decided to proceed.
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There's nothing unconstitutional about it, but it did ultimately reach a similar conclusion.
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And Alex should be thrilled with this since it illustrates the ways that States are able
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to determine their own policies for themselves and operate outside the control of the federal
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government that he hates so much.
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Sure, sure.
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So fuck, what are you complaining about, Dick?
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I think it's unconstitutional.
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Great.
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For the States to act indifferent from the, wait, I think it's constitutional for the
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federal government to tell States that they can't act, wait, no, what's his position on
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the constitution?
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Blah.
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Okay.
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That's a good, yep.
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So Alex goes to calls.
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Sure.
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And this is where things kind of fall off the rails.
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That sounds right.
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Because as you'll recall, what would it have been quite a while back?
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Alex gave...
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So I don't recall.
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Alex gave the people behind QAnon like a week to unveil themselves.
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Yes, that's right.
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I do remember that.
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Or else he was going to name them and then he never did.
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Yes, and then he never did.
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Yeah.
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Yep.
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That one was fun.
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This caller brings that up.
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And yeah, Alex...
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How does it go?
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Well, we'll see.
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Adam in Oklahoma has a question.
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He says, who is Q?
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Would you like to elaborate on that and then I'll tell you who Q is.
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Okay.
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Yeah.
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Thank you, Alex.
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I appreciate you taking my call.
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A few years ago, you painted some broad brush strokes about who Q was and how impossibly
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it had exchanged hands and things like that.
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And at one point you threatened that if they didn't come out and say who they were themselves,
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that you were going to do it.
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And I can't listen to all the time, but maybe you did cover it at some point, but I never
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did hear names named about who Q is.
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So yeah.
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One thing that I think is fascinating about this clip is that it clearly shows that Alex
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always talks about how he doesn't screen calls, but he knows this guy's call before he even
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talks to him.
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So obviously whatever the call screening process is, Alex sees the question that the person's
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going to ask before they come on.
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And so that kind of invalidates his entire thing.
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Pretty much.
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Now here's Alex's answer and boy, it's not good.
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I never did hear names named about who Q is.
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Well, I'm on record saying that Q was lying, that Trump would be back in office on January
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20th.
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Not an answer.
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Do you have names of who Q is?
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Well, let me talk for a second.
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So that's a no?
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Q is such a horrible saying that I hate to even talk about it.
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Okay.
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Sure.
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Sure.
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That pause could not have said more to me.
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That was the loudest pause I've ever heard.
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It was screaming in my ear.
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I have no idea.
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I don't remember saying that.
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Why did I take this call?
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I don't know who I'm going to make fun, make up to do this.
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What am I doing?
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I need a new call screener.
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What is happening?
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This sucks.
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He was so prepared to tell the person who Q was, but he was not prepared to have to
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say that there was a previous callback to when he said this earlier.
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Wait, wait.
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I mean, this is not just someone randomly saying, hey, tell me who Q is.
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This is him saying, hey, Alex, you said you were going to unveil who these people are
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and you never did that.
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Who are the names?
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Oh yeah.
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And Alex said, well, Q's bad.
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So I'm on record as saying that Q is not telling the truth.
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Oh boy.
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This is not going to go well.
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I've already run out of gas.
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He doesn't give a great answer.
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Q is such a horrible thing that I hate to even talk about it.
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All right.
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Q is anonymous.
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So it's when people would call in and ask me, who is the anonymous hacking group?
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It's any group wants to call themselves anonymous.
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It's the same thing with Q.
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It's called esoterica or occult.
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Occult means hidden.
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When you see the movie Eyes Wide Shut based on real things that went on, when they go
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to the satanic orgy where the woman's killed, you don't know who anyone is.
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They're wearing masks.
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Ah.
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It all makes sense now.
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Now I get it.
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Hey, you know what's an unsatisfying answer to who is Q?
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Q is anonymous.
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Everyone and no one and some people and anyone who wants to be, but then they can also stop.
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Guy Fox is Q.
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All are Q.
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Jesus.
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Yeah.
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That's shit.
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So Alex doesn't really have an answer, but he does call it a, the question of who is
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Q is a, he uses a racially charged term.
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No reason not to.
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It's not good.
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And so it's a tar baby because people love a puzzle.
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They love us fucking wow and they want to feel like they're part of something magic
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and secretly getting orders from president Trump and that everything was fine and he
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was, everybody was going to get arrested and Trump was going to end up being emperor and
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everything was fine and it was completely different from what I do to make people think
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everything was okay so the Democrats could steal the election.
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And yes, I do know what happened with Q.
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I do know who started it.
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I do know what happened with it, but no one wants the truth.
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So I won't tell you.
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How about that?
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This caller asks, what?
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No one wants to know.
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This caller specifically is asking me who it is.
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God damn it.
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That caller even, even at the beginning was like, listen, I can't listen all the time.
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So maybe you revealed it when I wasn't listening.
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So that gave you an out.
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He was overly polite.
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He was doing his best even though he knew for a fact that you never fucking said it.
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I don't know.
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I don't know that to be the case.
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I think this caller seems like from the other things he says, I think this caller seems
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like a polite person.
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Very polite.
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I think this might be just a, Hey, you know, maybe you didn't say it.
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Maybe.
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Could be.
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Maybe it's genuine.
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I find it offensive for Alex to take a direct question.
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What is A?
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Right.
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And then he'd be like, look, I know what A is, but no one wants to know.
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So how about I don't say?
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Right.
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Tip of the spear.
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Direct question.
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What's the most gross news today?
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Yeah.
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But he can't say.
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No.
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It seems to me like it's just time to take the mask off this Cobra commander.
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If there is names to name that they create this boogeyman.
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And if certainly if the government wanted to know who it was, they would, they would
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find out, you know, in days if they wanted to, they don't want, they don't want to say
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it.
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Yeah.
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Um, you know, I'm in a unique position to know things a lot of people don't know.
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And in many cases to protect the innocent, I'm not going to say who started it, but to
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protect the innocent control of it for about a month.
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And then it got taken away by a bunch of disinfo experts and operatives, um, right out of the
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CIA.
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And that's a fact.
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And I've got a track record of being accurate about that.
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So here's what happened with Q. I'm excited to hear what happened with Q, but I don't
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know how much more clear Alex can make it to the audience that he doesn't have any specific
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information.
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He's just only interested in speaking in vague platitudes that can't be proven or disproven.
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In the span of this call, he's given multiple excuses for why he can't say the names of
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who is Q because he doesn't have a name to give.
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And if he gives a name, he'd be stuck with that being his story.
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Specificity is the enemy of conspiracists and Alex knows that super well.
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If he says a name and that name is somehow disproven as being Q, he looks really bad.
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If he wiggles around and makes up fake excuses for why he totally knows the truth, but he
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isn't going to say it, he can trick most of the audience into thinking that he's telling
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the truth and there's some compelling reason that he's not saying anything.
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It's honestly a very similar dynamic to what he's complaining about with Q. He's saying
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that people love the mystery of it and the unknown.
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Alex is just exploiting the exact same thing in his listeners.
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His shit's only intriguing until he gives a name and then it's boring as hell because
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who cares.
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Yeah, what is he going to say?
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Oh, it's the Watkinses.
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It's Boris Johnson.
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Yeah, the end.
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Until he says that name, you can trick yourself into thinking that he's got deep levels of
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intel and he's holding back for some serious consideration, but much like Q, it's all bullshit.
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It's all just a what if game.
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And I think that Alex is a bit of a pro here because he starts trying to explain what Q
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is.
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And I think he realizes that there's not really anywhere to go with this, so I'm going to
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have to do something different in order to change the conversation.
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Here's what happened with Q. We were very successful exposing the child kidnapping ring
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Satanism angle of the Democratic Party.
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WikiLeaks was very, very successful at releasing real information.
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Remember that in the run up to the election in 2016?
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Hey, someone on the inside was given out accurate information.
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Okay, I'm going to start over.
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I'm going to start over.
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So there's a bit of an annoyance at the caller there, but Alex asked the caller a question.
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He said, do you remember that from the 2016 election?
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And the caller responded to that in a way that makes sense based on the question that
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was asked.
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Oh, I've got to start over as if this somehow derails him or whatever.
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And that's the beginning of him just lashing out at this caller.
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Because that's the new game.
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The new game is no longer, hey, I have no idea who Q is and if I do, I don't want to
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tell you.
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So now I'm just going to get mad at you.
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That's the way you do it.
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Because the whole Q thing, we could talk for hours about this.
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So this may take me a while to go over.
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And you'll forget what it was you asked it when I'm done.
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Bug in my throat here, sorry.
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You know, here's the thing about the Q deal.
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I lay out exactly what's going on and nobody cares.
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Every caller I talk to like you, and I'm mad at you, when I sit here and I'm telling you
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specific stuff, I say, did you hear what I just said?
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And you responded back with, I know somebody was giving out accurate information.
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What?
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Now what do you want?
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I mean, look, I love you, Adam.
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Did you hear what I just said in the lead up to that?
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What did I say to you right before you responded back with, yeah, I know somebody was giving
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out that information.
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Okay.
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I'm sorry.
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I'm a little nervous.
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I might've...
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No, no, no.
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It's okay.
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It's okay.
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Do you understand that we lost a cut free because of Q?
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Yes, sir.
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Oof.
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Oh my God.
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That's not cool.
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How dare you say yes, sir.
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Like you were being dressed down.
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He was being dressed down.
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Yeah, but it's by a fucking moron.
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Right.
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It's a moron that you've been tricked into looking up to.
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So Alex has done what he can to not be held to his word from back when he said that he
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was going to expose Q by name if they didn't publicly reveal themselves and it's honestly
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been a little bit underwhelming.
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Alex decided to launch into a big thing about his interpretation of Q stuff and the caller
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said something, which is perfect for him.
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Now Alex can lash out and emotionally abuse this caller instead of having to say anything
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of substance.
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Before the caller said anything, Alex had only said that he had been successful in getting
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sex trafficking information out and that WikiLeaks had released information about the 2016 election.
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There wasn't anything like there was a revealing specific in there that this caller had failed
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to grasp and the caller was asked a question and Alex didn't say, did you hear me?
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He said, do you remember that?
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Yep.
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It was just Alex like presenting the situation differently that just happened a minute ago
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so he can berate him.
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Yeah.
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It's nonsense.
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Yeah.
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This is what weak bullies do.
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Yes.
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Yep.
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This is another distraction tactic that he's employing.
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Yeah.
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Alex feels kind of called out about how he said he was going to name Q and he knows that
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he can't do that, so he's got to spin some plates and it's just horrible that one of
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the plates he's deciding to go with is making this caller feel like Alex isn't able to make
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his points because of him.
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Like it's his fault somehow.
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Yeah.
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This is abusive.
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Yeah.
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No, that's textbook abuse.
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Yes.
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Yeah.
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Yep.
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I mean, it really couldn't be much more gaslightery than that.
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I mean, and it's, it happens fast.
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Yeah, it does.
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In the span of this call.
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Yeah.
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Woo.
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Jesus, man.
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So Alex talks about Q for quite a while now.
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Sure he does.
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Do you understand that we lost the country because of Q?
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Yes, sir.
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And I had to put up with the Q people all over the place.
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And I'm tired of it.
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So I'm not mad at you.
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I couldn't steal their shit.
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And the damn Q people were the ones that manipulated some people to go into the damn capital and
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worked with the feds.
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Wait, I thought it was a honeypot.
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Q is the worst people on earth at the top.
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Q is the new world order.
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Q is a psy-op to lead us around by our noses.
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I'm going to put you on hold and I'm going to come back to you and I'm going to start
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over.
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Start over.
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I mean, take the Q shaman.
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I know him.
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I know filmmakers that know his family.
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He's not a bad guy.
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He's completely schizophrenic.
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I feel like all this makes it all the more important for Alex to name names so the world
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can know who it is that's using this new world order psy-op to hurt people and mislead so
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many folks.
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It couldn't be more important.
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They destroyed the world.
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It's because of them that we lost America.
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Give us their names.
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He's making an argument against his own position.
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I mean, this is bananas.
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I would dare say that if revealing who this person or group is would lead to some people
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being freed from the delusions that are involved in the Q bullshit, Alex has a moral obligation
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to name names.
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Yeah.
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He's not going to, though, because he doesn't have any names.
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Nope.
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He just has bullshit vagaries and feelings.
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He has outbursts to shield his ignorance, but if you pay attention to what's actually
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being discussed, it's so transparent what he's doing here.
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This is just that's bad.
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That's static.
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Yup.
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Oh man.
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He should be really ashamed of himself.
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I don't know if he's able to access those feelings.
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It's really lucky that he doesn't have the capacity for shame.
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True.
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Yeah.
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It'd be in a box.
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He'd be fucked.
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Yeah.
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But look, I mean, everyone cares about Q, but they don't care about Alex's COVID stuff
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enough.
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Oh no.
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Here's my frustration.
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I can give you the emails and the documents and I've shut them on air probably 50 times
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where Peter Daszak and Bill Gates and the rest of these criminals are openly creating
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COVID-19 and talking about releasing it and no one cares and no one listens and no one
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knows about it.
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But if it's some magic made up, huff the magic dragon Q thing, everybody knows about it and
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wants to talk about the minutiae all day.
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So I'm going to start over.
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Don't hang up, Adam, when we come back.
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Yeah.
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So they don't care enough about his COVID.
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I think people have responded quite well to that.
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Yeah.
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You got $3 million.
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This COVID shit is going quite well.
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This is just another dodge.
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There's something about this that Alex really wants to distract from.
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And I think it's just that he doesn't know shit and he can't name someone without risking
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another possible defamation lawsuit.
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Alex probably knows that if he names someone as Q, they're probably going to get a certain
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amount of harassment because of it, possibly even escalating to violence because he's presenting
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this as not a guess, but as a known fact, he'd probably bear a little bit more responsibility
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if this happened.
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So he knows that that is not a path he can go down.
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Yeah, no.
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If you've said that they're the reason you lost the country and they're a globalist and
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they cause January 6th to make us all look bad, and then you give their name, that person's
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probably going to die.
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Well, if at least get a lot of death threats, for sure.
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At the same time, based on what Alex has presented on his show, there's literally no reason not
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to name these people.
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Q is a psy-op that's leading good people astray.
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It's run by the New World Order.
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It's destroying the country and Alex knows who's behind it.
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If you're a listener who believes Alex, there's no reason not to name names.
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But because Alex can't, he has to create a reason.
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And that's what you're seeing here.
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Alex is just moving around trying to find an emotionally satisfying reason for why he
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can't name Q and he's coming up short.
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Well, I mean, and in this situation, that person, it's inarguable that if you believe
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what Alex is saying, you should go kill that person.
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Well, yeah.
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You know?
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True.
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Like, that's why he cannot give a name.
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Because based on what he's just said, a name would be a death sentence to that person for
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a true believer.
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Well, sure.
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I mean, I guess the way you'd get around that or something is like, it's not so much a death
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sentence as it is you should be tried for treason and formal proceedings.
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Yeah, they're huge into formal proceedings.
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They are.
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It's in the Constitution.
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But whatever the case is, you'd put this person in significant danger.
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And Alex is pretty keen right now to not get sued again because he has a pretty relevant
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recent experience with that.
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So I'm fascinated by this thing.
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How vehement he is towards Q or?
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No, that makes sense.
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You lost a lot of money on that.
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I think it's interesting that this caller is asking that, and Alex needs to do like
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an hour, half an hour on this.
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Like instead of just sort of brushing aside the question, he needs to do this because
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it's something that if he didn't, the audience would just be like, what's going on?
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He said that he's going to reveal these people in the past.
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He's being reminded of this on air.
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So now he has to do a huge show out of this to make sure that people don't remember that
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piece of it.
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Exactly.
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They have to remember something else.
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Yes.
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Yeah, yeah.
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And so that's where we are.
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By doing that, you forced Alex to put on a big smokescreen of a performance and then
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disappear into the woods.
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Basically, yeah.
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And so Alex comes back from break and he apologizes to this caller, of course, because that's
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what abusers do.
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And then talks a little bit more about what he knows about Q.
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All right, getting serious.
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Thank you so much for joining us here on the Alex Jones show.
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And I apologize to Adam from Oklahoma who asked a very reasonable question.
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And I got angry because when I open my brain up and start going back over what all the
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Q stuff did, it gives me a headache.
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And I go wah, wah, wah.
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And the biggest frustration is I know exactly when on every damn angle of it, it would take
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hours to explain.
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And people don't seem to kill hardcore documents.
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Your show is hours long.
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If you want to believe some nebulous thing, knock yourselves out.
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Some nebulous thing that led the country into destruction and that lied to you at every
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turn.
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And I'm not talking to Adam who I'll go back to in a moment.
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I'm talking to the nice people, a lot of good people like MTG and General Flynn and myself
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to a certain extent knew what was going on with the Q thing and knew that there was a
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tug of war going on over this anonymous thing.
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And so well let's just try to co-opt it away from the bad guys that are using it and use
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it for good.
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And that's what General Flynn tried to do.
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Okay?
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That's fucked up.
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Wow.
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That's...
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That's...
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That's...
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Wait.
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So now you're telling me that General Flynn tried to wield the influence over a cult-like
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following of online folks for his own advantage.
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Right.
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That seems healthy.
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Hi.
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Um, real quick point.
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If I were Flynn I probably wouldn't want Alex saying this shit.
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Well, I would say that after the 6th, which you have claimed Q orchestrated in order to
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make you look bad, Flynn still said some Q shit.
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True.
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And I think that this may be in some ways an attempt to explain away why Flynn was a
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huge Q supporter.
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Right.
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Right, right, right.
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Oh no, he was trying to take it over for good.
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Sure.
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Yeah, yeah.
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To lead it in the correct direction or whatever.
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I mean, 60% of his guests in the past 6 years have thrown out at least one or two Q things,
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right?
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Probably more than that.
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Yeah, I would say...
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I mean, I was being conservative.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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But Alex tried to convince Flynn to do something that probably would have had drastic consequences.
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And I told Flynn he ought to just come out and say he's Q so he could shut up all the
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disinfo people and actually make Q good and it would be real if Flynn let it.
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And I'm not going to get into our off-the-record discussions, but...
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You just did.
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I mean, that's all the off-the-record discussion you need.
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Because Q is so nebulous, Flynn wouldn't do that.
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Yeah, I think that's...
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I rarely will accuse General Flynn of having good judgment, but that would be a really
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fucked up thing for him to do.
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Yeah, yeah.
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Yep.
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I am Q.
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Yeah, yeah.
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There's really no way to reveal yourself as Q without simultaneously kind of sounding
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like you're revealing yourself as the next Messiah, you know, like, I am Q. Also, reincarnation
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of Jesus Christ.
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I'm out here.
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I'm a twofer.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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This is a mess.
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Yeah, that's not good.
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Still don't know who Q is, though.
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So Alex talks a little bit about how... what his relationship with Q was.
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I was working years ago trying to fix Q. And I'm going to explain this to you.
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I'm going to stop right here.
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I inspired Q. Paul Joseph Watson did.
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Infowars did.
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In the election, WikiLeaks gave birth to Q. WikiLeaks is real.
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The pedophilia, the child kidnapping rings that are in the emails with John Podesta and
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all the rest of it and Tony Podesta.
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That's all real.
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Pizza gates?
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So how do you counter something like that?
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Well, they come out with saying it's really in a pizza place in DC, not at farmhouses
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in New York and Illinois and California.
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You did that.
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Yep.
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So they divert off onto the pizza place that did have a bunch of creepy weird stuff and
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did have some of the people involved as a tough going there.
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And so you kill a real story with a fake story that discredits it.
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You had to fire Joe Biggs about pizza gate coverage.
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I mean, wild.
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Jack Fossobek was faking being freaked out and almost crying in an interview with Owen
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Troyer about pizza gate stuff.
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This is so stupid.
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Man, you know, it really does explain why all of our history is so fucking stupid is
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because the people who won in wars and shit for so long were exactly like Alex, just recontextualizing
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everything in general.
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Sure.
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Sure, sure, sure.
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No, no, no.
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And I know this was a loss and I did look like an idiot, but let me recontextualize
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to why I'm right, always was, and in fact I did not lose.
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Well, it's the same thing like on our 2003 episode we just did about him like rewriting
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this time he was wrong as the globalist tricked him with a headline.
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Yep.
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Oh, they got me.
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Yeah.
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And I was like, okay, so Alex and his associates did a lot of pizza gate shit, but also Alex
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sold a fucking bumper sticker that said, I am Q.
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Yep.
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What's he talking about?
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I don't know.
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I don't know, man.
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I do think, I mean, obviously I know from listening to him and hearing him say various
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things over the years, he tried to co-opt Q, but the reason for that was a financial
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motivation and like trying to get this into his revenue stream.
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Yeah.
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I mean, they were a solid.
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Now Alex can rewrite that as I was trying to do that so they would believe the right
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things or whatever, but that's nonsense.
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So Alex, he talks about the formation of Q, but again, no specifics.
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And then a lot of Patriots, some in the Trump administration and some in US intelligence
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saw that info wars got major heat for exposing the pedophile rings and Jeffrey Epstein.
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And they said, let's do it anonymously and put out Intel from our people inside the white
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house when Trump first got elected.
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And let's really energize the grassroots and have like a secret propaganda arm that tells
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the truth, but releases stuff too hot to handle to the public.
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And that was a consortium of people in the white house.
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They tried to do what info wars does, but not putting their name on it.
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Within a month, it got taken away on the 8chan and the 4chan boards by the other side.
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So there's a couple of problems with this retelling of the story.
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The first is that Q was never taken away by 4chan or 8chan.
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It started on and exclusively posted on 4chan before migrating to 8chan.
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Everything that Q was happened beginning with cryptic posts made there, which were then
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interpreted and discussed in other online forums.
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Basically what's going on here is that Alex wants his cake and to eat it too.
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He wants to keep the general vibe of QAnon because it largely matches his conspiracy
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worldview and to attack that too harshly would have blowback on his own dumb ideas.
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At the same time, he doesn't want to have to take responsibility for and answer to the
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fact that Q has consistently been wrong about stuff and the theories that grow out of that
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cesspool are embarrassing and dangerous and often antisemitic in nature.
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That said, I do agree with Alex that Q was inspired at least in part by him.
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The whole counter-coup narrative that he and Steve riffed about through most of the lead-up
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to the 2016 election is really close as a match to a lot of Q's early mythology.
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It definitely wouldn't be surprising to learn that a lot of that stuff was in some way inspired
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by Alex's collaborative storytelling.
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Also if what Alex is saying is true, then Trump and his administration should be investigated
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and possibly charged for what they did.
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Like they weren't just putting out the truth that was too hot to handle.
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Like if anonymous shitposting on 4chan was a propaganda effort from the federal government,
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I don't think that's appropriate.
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No, I think Alex himself would find that to be a very disgusting thing for a government
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to do.
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What if Hillary was doing that?
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I think he would be against it.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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What if Hillary had a secret propaganda arm on 4chan where anonymously she was saying
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that Alex and his associates had already been arrested or whatever.
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All this cryptic nonsense and bullshit predictions riling people up and then, you know, people
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end up killing folks and shooting into a pizza place.
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Yep.
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Man, it's so crazy with Hillary then.
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Like Hillary could have done step-by-step everything that Trump did and they'd still
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be mad at her.
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They'd be like, that's not enough!
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You mean like from a policy and political standpoint?
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Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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Yep.
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I would assume so.
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Because it's not really about that.
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Nope.
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No, sir.
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No, no, no, no.
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So Alex now, realizing that he's talked about QAnon for quite a while, reassesses what the
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caller actually asked him.
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I'm actually glad that Adam called in and asked, who and what is Q?
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And the answer is the same thing as anonymous.
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People have done good things as hackers, white hat activity, calling themselves anonymous
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and wearing the guy a fox mask.
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A lot of bad stuff has been done in his name.
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And so anything that is hidden and esoteric is a lot of fun for some people, but it's
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very, very dangerous and not good.
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So Alex is now, I guess he feels that he has successfully rambled enough and given enough
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of a presentation that he can change what the caller actually asked.
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Caller asked, you said you were going to name names, did you name names?
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What are the names?
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And now Alex has wandered around so much that the question is now who and what is QAnon
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as opposed to what are the names.
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It's a direct question that he has now changed and changed so distractingly that this caller
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actually has been fooled.
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Okay.
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Adam in Oklahoma.
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Does that answer your question?
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Yes, sir.
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That was a very powerful answer and God bless you, Alex.
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What you wrapped up there is the reason why I called and asked.
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It's just so many people took the bait for this and it troubles me.
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Yeah.
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So he did not get an answer to his question, the question that was asked, but Alex berated
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him and emotionally abused him and then rambled enough, apologized in the middle of it to
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smooth over the wounds and managed to make this guy feel like he got something out of
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the exchange as opposed to Alex just said nothing for half an hour.
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Yeah.
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It does feel like this should go into evidence as to why cult deprogramming doesn't work.
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Oh man.
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Speaking of that, here's what happens immediately after that.
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Oh no.
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I know it's been a long conversation, but I would, if you'd let me say a prayer for
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you, I'd sure appreciate that.
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Please do.
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Father God, thank you for some of the things that are coming to light in this world and
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I thank you for the courage that Alex and his team have had.
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Oh man.
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Yeah.
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So like, I feel like, I don't know, people who are like, hey, you know, Alex is, he's
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right about a lot of stuff.
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I feel like this is a snapshot that maybe they should really ask themselves some questions
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about.
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Yeah.
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This entire presentation of him with the caller who asks about QAnon, the way it's handled,
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the way it progresses, and the fact that it leads to this guy having a prayer on air where
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he thanks God for Alex's bravery, it's nonsense.
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This is cult shit.
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I wish there was like a bot we could have on every, on the internet, just a bot that
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every time it said Alex, any time it detected like Alex was right, it would immediately
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follow up with a response of just these clips and be like, how do you feel about that?
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Yeah.
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Defend it.
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I think, I think that some people who are maybe more in the like sort of zealotry angle
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side of things, they may be fine with it, but there are some people who have brands
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that they probably want to maintain like Rogan or some of these other folks who will have
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them on their podcasts that this would be really embarrassing and really tough to answer
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for.
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Man, Christians feel the same way about the Bible that they do about the constitution,
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which is that reading it is just gauche, it's a terrible idea, and praying in public is
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exactly what Jesus told you to do.
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Well, the thing is that, which you don't understand, is that Infowars is a church.
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And I do believe that Infowars is the most effective church on planet earth for giving
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the word of God out.
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It's the one that isn't holding back.
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Read that Bible, buddy.
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From the products you sell, I really enjoyed X2.
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The products you sell!
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The products you sell and everything you stand, you're risking your life.
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And frankly-
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You're a great church!
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Most Christian pastors aren't.
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They should be banned.
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They should be banned.
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Not you.
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Yeah.
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I mean, come on!
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Yeah, these callers-
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This is not fair!
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Oh.
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Stop saying that!
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Why did I have to learn so much fucking Christianity, only to hate it, and then these people don't
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even know anything about it and then try and shove it down my throat all the time?
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It's annoying.
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It's very annoying.
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Mm-hmm.
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It's very annoying.
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Alex would have flipped his desk after this caller was like, you're the most important
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church in the world.
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How dare you!
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The Bible says that you should not be able to sell things in a fucking church!
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So Alex gets a call from his long-time caller, this guy Carlos, he calls all the goddamn
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time.
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Yeah.
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It's annoying.
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I remember Carlos.
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Almost every episode.
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Jesus.
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And here's a little taste of Alex's old buddy.
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Whenever I sort of like wonder, oh gee, you know, I'm losing my focus on history, I read
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one quote and it brings me right back.
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And it's a quote from Mayor Amechel Rothschild, 1773, as you know, was an important day for
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me.
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But it says here, let me issue a control and nation's money, and I care not who writes
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the laws.
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So that's almost certainly a fake quote.
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There's no actual evidence that Mayor Rothschild said that.
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The sources that cite this quote as being said by him are a little dubious, and there
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are some indications that a guy named Andrew Fletcher said it in the 1600s, long before
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Rothschild was alive.
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The prevailing theory is that this quote was attributed to Rothschild in the early 1900s
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when there was a debate about the gold standard.
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That was where this sort of pops up into the modern consciousness as being a quote.
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That's the appropriate time to make that up from him.
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That's when you start seeing Rothschild's name attached to it, and yeah, it's nonsense.
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Shortly after the Protocols of the Elders of Zion.
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Well this caller, I mean that's what inspires this caller, and God bless him for it.
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So Alex gets another call, and this guy has an amazing suggestion for how Alex can make
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some money.
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It's ridiculous.
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T-shirts?
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I just had an odd deal.
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One thing that I would think a lot of input warriors would have would be gold.
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And this may be a stupid-up deal, let me preface it to that, but what if anyone that sent in
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one ounce of gold, you gave them back a one-tenth ounce gold coin, looks like a certificate
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of authenticity, slash-
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Hey, that'd be great, because I don't have any gold.
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I don't have any gold.
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I used to have gold, and my ex-wife got in the divorce, but I'm literally out of money
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myself.
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Yeah, how about you have people send you a dollar, and you send them back a dime?
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How about you bilk people for even more money?
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I mean-
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It's an interesting idea.
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I mean it's not really all that different than the overpriced silver coins that he's
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selling or the sliver of gold.
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It's not really, except for-
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The novelty is the gold for gold transaction.
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That's what's fun.
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That's what's fun about it.
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It is certainly fun.
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That's like if you sent him in a gold statue and he smashed the head off of it and gave
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it back to you.
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Right.
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Like, I'll keep the rest of it.
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You get the head.
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Yeah.
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So Alex has a response to this guy, and also some big news.
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Our listeners would come through with that.
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I know they would.
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We're going to do that, brother.
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Your idea is going to happen.
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I hate you.
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Yeah, because I think that would be amazing, and then you sign all of them, because that
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would be the main, that would be the one that only the people that send in the one ounce
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would get, and then you can make nine others.
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One trillion percent.
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Somebody sends us an ounce of gold, they're going to get a handwritten note, because that's
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what we need is things that have a big profit in them to fight.
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I haven't announced this yet, but we now officially know, and it's going to come out soon.
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It is George Soros' battle of the lawsuits behind us, and he's basically getting ready
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to officially announce he's trying to take me down.
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Wait, wait.
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You haven't said that before?
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Yeah.
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Wait, now it's official?
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Just now.
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We've figured it out.
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But I will say, I can think of very few ways of making money that are more tailored to
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laundering than this.
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Giving someone gold in exchange for less gold, and then not really keeping track of what
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it is, the value of what you have.
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The value is added by this little thing, you're going to give them a note.
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This seems like a really good way to take in some money that maybe-
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I mean, if I was going to launder a shit ton of money, I would put it into gold and then
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send it to Alex Jones.
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It's another avenue.
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It's also a ridiculously dumb idea.
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It's a very dumb idea.
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Speaking of dumb ideas-
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What if I send you 10 Bitcoin and you send me one back?
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That's a great idea, right?
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Sure.
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So Alex has some bad ideas like this, the callers have bad ideas, and here's one of
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Alex's.
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He's just spent half an hour at least rambling about QAnon, and how dumb Q is and how it's
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a fucking attack on everybody.
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And Steve Pagenek's favorite thing.
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And now Alex ends the show with an interview with Marjorie Taylor Greene, noted member
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of Congress who believed in QAnon.
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Yup.
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The same TG on the road, graciously popping in for just a little while.
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Thank you so much.
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And I want to say congratulations for fighting back and winning, but at the same time, you
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shouldn't have even had to be in court.
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You don't have a criminal record.
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You weren't under indictment.
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You're not a felon.
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They had no reason to do this.
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This really discredits them, but congratulations still.
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Well, thank you, Alex.
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And it does discredit them and shame on them for ever putting me through this than putting
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the people in my district through this.
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Wow.
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That's a speed dial now, man.
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She's coming in to Infowars a bit.
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Yeah.
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I think she thinks she's losing an election here pretty soon.
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I don't know.
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It's interesting to try and read the signs of like her...
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It is frequent Infowars appearances.
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Here's the problem.
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For me to say she thinks that she's going to lose an election implies that I believe
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she has some sort of ability to plan long-term and to recognize reality.
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And I just don't think that's true now.
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So I think anything could be possible in her brain.
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Yeah.
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I think also one of the problems that you run into is that the behavior would be indistinguishable
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because coming on Infowars a bunch could be trying to get the vote out, get your name
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out there, or it could be trying to lay track for a career after you lose your primary or
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your election.
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Yeah.
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So I don't know.
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I shouldn't be so quick to make assumptions, but man, it is bad news.
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The combination of her and him.
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She posted that ultra-maga thing with the red eyes thing signaling to this dark-maga
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side.
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Yeah.
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Alex has certainly more recently talked a bit more about BlackPill ideas.
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BlackPill.news is one of his websites.
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This is not good.
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These combinations and influences coming together is eesh.
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It's the larger thing that she's part of.
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If you go back and look at Congresses through history and start really looking at individual
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members, I would be shocked to find a single Congress that does not have at least one truly
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insane person in there.
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It's that there were also the president and the rest of Congress on her team too.
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That's kind of my bigger problem.
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Yeah.
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There is, it's more troubling.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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I think, I don't know why, but it does feel different than Ron Paul showing up on Alex's
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show a lot.
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It really does.
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I don't know why.
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I think it's because she feels nutsier.
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Yeah.
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I think that if Ron Paul had been into QAnon prior to him being on Alex's show, I think
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I would be as worried about Ron Paul.
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Q changed it for everybody though.
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Once you went to Q, it's like, you're scary now.
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Well, Ron Paul is like a John Birchy kind of guy.
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Totally.
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You know?
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And so like Alex is a John Birchy kind of guy.
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It makes sense for them to be together.
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Whereas Marjorie Taylor Greene is a QAnon weirdo, unhinged, who knows what the fuck
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reality she inhabits.
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And yeah, if she was just a John Birchy kind of member of Congress, I don't know if I would
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have the same instinctual worry about it.
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Yeah.
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It's like if Rand Paul was going on Alex's show.
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Sure.
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But then again, now that seems like it's just because he's related to Ron Paul.
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Yeah.
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I mean, it's entirely that.
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But if, I mean, cause, cause Ron and Rand, despite being shitty people and batshit nuts,
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it has always felt like you and they, and you inhabit the same universe.
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And every time MTG speaks, I'm like, I don't know where you are.
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I just don't know where you are or what you think or why or how I wrestle with this a
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little bit.
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And I think this next clip actually will lay out a little bit of why, because like there
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is that inhabiting of a false reality somewhat, but there is also like, I think that this
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clip illustrates that there are some indications that she also is very clearly aware of the
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fact that there is another real reality.
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Yeah.
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You were getting into something MTG really central here.
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And that is these giant distribution centers and food factories and processing facilities
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blowing up and burning up every day, statistically impossible.
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You've got a lot of connections, a lot of Intel.
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We look at the pipelines being shut down, the dollar being devalued, the Cloward and
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Piven strategy to bring America to its knees by destroying capitalism by sabotage.
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That's what this is.
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I mean, there's so many signs of it everywhere.
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What do you think is really going on and what are you hearing?
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Well, I think, I think people are beginning to, to realize there, this may be more than
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just a coincidence.
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And I can tell you, you know, manufacturing plants, it is common that there can be fires.
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It's sometimes if a manufacturing plant is old, occasionally a fire will happen.
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But this is such a common occurrence right now, especially in the past few months, Alex,
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it doesn't seem to be a coincidence and it shouldn't be happening.
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And why is it food processing plant over and over and over?
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Like you're talking about, this is a choice.
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I mean, what you just said is why it's food processing plants.
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Well, yeah, there are these fires that have happened and Marjorie Taylor Greene even knows
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that these sorts of fires at these facilities isn't something that's uncommon.
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She knows the actual explanation for the things that are happening, but she also knows that
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she only gets information from outlets that are full of shit like, like Info Wars.
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For outlets like Info Wars and Tucker, these fires are useful only in so far as they are
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happening at food plants, which is why Marjorie Taylor Greene may think that they're all happening
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at food plants.
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The conspiracy is about the globalists attacking the food supply, so that's the angle that
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Full of Shit outlets take on the story, and thus it seems like the perception that Marjorie
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Taylor Greene is mirroring.
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Just yesterday there was a fire at a textile plant in South Carolina, but that's not leading
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the coverage because it doesn't fit the conspiracy.
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Yesterday there was also a fire at the Jelled Wen plant in Wysocks, Pennsylvania, but this
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isn't part of the conspiracy because it's a company that makes interior doors.
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There's an explanation for the phenomena that Greene is discussing, and she knows that explanation
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as proven by her saying the explanation out loud.
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She knows the reality, but the conspiracy is more useful, so she leans into that ignoring
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reality in favor of her constructed world.
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There's certainly other reasons, but this kind of tendency disqualifies her, I think,
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for being someone who should hold public office.
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If someone is willing to knowingly use conspiracy bullshit to persuade you towards a conclusion,
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you can't trust that they're being straight up about anything.
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Ever.
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Ever.
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And I think that that might be the distinction between her and Ron Paul, because I do believe
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that Ron Paul believes the shit that he says.
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I think he's wrong, but I think that he sincerely believes that the Fed is evil or whatever.
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Maybe what I feel like is the difference between Alex and like, it's the difference of exploiting
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fake reality and trying to use it to, or trying to make fake reality usurp real reality.
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Do you know what I mean?
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Like Rand Paul has always seemed like he's exploiting fake reality.
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You know, he's given the bones to the people who need the bones to get his job, you know?
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And MTG really feels like she's trying to destroy reality and replace it with the bullshit
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she believes.
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It's hard to tell, but there is something that feels different.
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Yeah.
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I mean, I don't think it is, but is it possible that we're experiencing some low-grade misogyny
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here?
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You know?
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I'm wrestling with that a tiny bit, and I don't think it is.
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I don't think it is, but that's kind of how it would go, you know?
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But at the same time, why in this situation would misogyny even creep in?
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I'm scared about reality, not about women being involved with it.
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Well, I mean, I was trying to put my feelings and apply them onto somebody else, and I think
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I would feel just as bad if like Matt Gaetz was on regularly or Louie Gelmert or Jim
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Jordan or that guy in Missouri whose name escapes me at the moment.
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Yeah.
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Hawley?
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Yeah, Josh Hawley.
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Yeah, yeah.
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If he had Hawley on there, that's almost scarier.
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And if it was happening all the time now, if it was like a regular guest ship of some
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of these other people who aren't women who are completely scary to me.
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Right.
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Yeah.
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Maybe it's just I'm not scared of Ron Paul.
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That's it.
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I think we've been around him too long.
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He's been kind of grandfathered in as the Fed guy, three senators passed the Fed with
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his brother.
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That was his brother.
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I know, I know.
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We don't know that Ron actually thinks that's Wayne.
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But yeah, you know, maybe we just have like a bias towards old people being less harmful,
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I suppose.
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Maybe.
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Maybe.
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Yeah, there is something to that.
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Maybe Ron Paul's ideology is something that seems, yeah, it seems almost antique.
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It's from the past.
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Yeah, yeah, yeah, we don't have to worry about it, despite the fact that we're clearly dealing
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with it.
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Sure.
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Whereas there's elements of what Marjorie Taylor Greene represents that is still kind
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of like this not fully formed yet present and what could be in the future.
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Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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I don't know.
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She's the potential for destruction more than Ron Paul or Rand Paul is, yeah.
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Yeah, I think there's a lot of weird threads that it's kind of tough to untangle all of
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them.
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Yeah, yeah.
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I'm going to jump here and it's where I kind of really, like, just declare fully,
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Fuck off.
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Well, Marjorie Taylor Greene is like, this is a performance.
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Yeah.
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I think everyone should be concerned about this.
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It's certainly something that I'm paying attention to.
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My team is starting to ask questions on and I don't think it, you know, I don't want to
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speculate, but there's too many food processing plants this is happening at and it's too frequent
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of an occurrence.
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And no one in charge seems to care.
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We don't see the FBI or the Department of Justice, you don't see people holding press
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conferences saying what is going on.
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You know, we've got mothers at grocery stores crying because they can't find baby formula,
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which is just horrendous and heartbreaking.
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But I think we have a real crisis on our hands and I think it's something that people need
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to pay serious attention to and demand investigations happen.
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Well, that's right.
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Maybe the FBI wasn't using thousands and thousands of ages to arrest January 6 peaceful protesters.
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We would have answers.
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She already has the answer to the question that she's demanding be answered.
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Yeah.
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And she told us.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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She already knows.
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Yep.
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And the FBI isn't going to investigate this because there's very ready statistics on this
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that show that this is not out of the normal.
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And what do you want from the people in power?
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Regulation?
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Sure.
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Why not?
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Is that what she's saying?
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I mean, if that's the conversation.
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If that's what you want, what does the press conference lead to other than regulations?
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Well, the absence of the press conference that would ultimately lead to regulations
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is a great optical thing because then you can say that there's a cover up of what is
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obviously agriterrorism or whatever.
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Yeah.
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Yeah, sure.
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But that's nonsense.
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This is a performance.
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She doesn't believe any of this shit.
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Yep.
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And you can tell because she's already explained it in this conversation.
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The very first thing she said was, here's why this doesn't make sense and now I believe
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you.
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Yeah.
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I don't find it infuriating and a bummer.
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Man.
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Mm-hmm.
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These people just lie all the time.
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Mm-hmm.
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It's how they get away with shit.
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It's weird.
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Yep.
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When are people going to be like, hey, I think you're a liar?
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It's overdue.
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It doesn't seem that way.
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Also, I think it would be great if, hey, you're a liar meant something.
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It would be nice.
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There were consequences for it.
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It would be nice.
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As opposed to just like, hey, you're a liar.
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You bet I am.
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Hey.
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It would be nice to see how you'll vote for me in August.
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So we come to the end of this.
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I think really the value of this episode is, first of all, the QAnon stuff I think is just
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outrageous.
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Yeah.
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And then I just cannot accept that we're living in a post the globalist plan can't be stopped
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world.
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And this is the kind of show that he's deciding to do.
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It is so hard to shake that because once the world has officially ended, it's not going
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to un-end.
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Mm-hmm.
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Yeah.
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Or if it does, like we've said before, demand an explanation for why.
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Absolutely.
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What changed.
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Totally.
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Walk us through this.
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Yep.
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You said we're all going to die.
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Now calm us down by explaining why we're not all going to die.
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Oh, man.
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Oklahoma is going to call in two years and be like, hey, remember when you said that
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we were all going to die three years ago?
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Whatever happened with that?
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Did we die?
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Well, look.
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I hate it when people... Anyway, we'll be back.
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Indeed we will.
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Until then, Jordan, we have a website.
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We do have a website.
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It's knowledgefight.com.
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Yep.
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We're also on Twitter.
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We are on Twitter.
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It's at knowledgefight.com.
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Go to medjordan.
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Yep.
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We'll be back.
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But until then, I'm Neo.
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I'm Leo.
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I'm DCX Clark.
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I hope you all have a dreamy, creamy summer.
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And now here comes the sex robots.
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Andy in Kansas.
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You're on the air.
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Thanks for holding.
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Hello, Alex.
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I'm a first time caller.
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I'm a huge fan.
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I love your work.
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I love you.