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N-N-N-N-N-N-N-Knowledge Fight

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Dan and Jordan, I am sweating.

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Knowledgefight.com, it's time to pray.

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I have great respect for Knowledgefight.

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I'm sick of them posing as if they're the good guys, saying we are the bad guys.

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Knowledgefight.

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I am sick of them posing as of today!

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Hey everybody, welcome back to Knowledge Fight, I'm Dan.

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I'm Jordan.

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We're a couple dudes, like to sit around,

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worship at the altar of Selene,

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and talk a little bit about Alex Jones.

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Oh, indeed we are.

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Dan. Jordan.

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Dan. Jordan.

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Good question for you, buddy. What's up?

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What's your bright spot?

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My bright spot today, Jordan,

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is the 2009 Nicolas Cage film, Knowing.

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Had an opportunity to check back in on that film.

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Holds the fuck up.

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It really does.

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That movie is good.

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It is actually good.

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I've seen it made fun of too many times.

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It is restrained Cage,

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but with a good freak out towards the end.

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Yep.

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It's, you know, it's a, it's a,

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it's a, it's an accessible Nicolas Cage.

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It's not like, you know, you get some sort of just

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run of the mill, average everyday person.

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Sure.

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And you try to show them, like,

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Bad Lieutenant, Port of Call, New Orleans.

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Oh, they're not ready for it.

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New.

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No, no, no, you gotta, no.

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They haven't even seen the original Bad Lieutenant.

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Some other Cage performance is probably

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too much for the normies, let's say.

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But like National Treasure, you can get them in on that.

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Knowing is in that milieu.

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Right, right, right.

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If you need something exciting.

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Right.

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Anyway, this movie came out 13 years ago.

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A man Googled nine slash one one slash 2001.

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You're continuing your track record

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of spoiling things in the bright spot.

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So what's yours?

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Sorry, my bright spot is yesterday.

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A nice table of women at this restaurant

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bought me and my partner a bottle of wine.

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What?

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Yeah.

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You could tell that you guys were luscious?

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Winos?

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No, here's the worst part, right?

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I was dressed like this, basically.

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I had a nicer sweater on, no hood.

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Okay.

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I had purchased it at a secondhand store.

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Turtleneck?

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Earlier yesterday morning, right?

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She was wearing jeans, nice shirt.

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We were both walking.

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She had flowers, right?

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And they immediately came over and they were like,

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oh my God, did you guys just get married?

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And the problem was we had.

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Oh.

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And that's offensive to me

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because those people correctly sussed out,

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that's as good as this dirt bag is gonna look.

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Wow.

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That's as good as it gets for me.

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Yeah.

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And I would like to remind the listeners

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that before I went to Austin in December,

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we went to the men's warehouse.

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Yes, we did.

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Well, I tried to buy a suit and it did not happen.

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Well, you could have.

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Well, I could have.

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You got a hug out of it.

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I do get a hug.

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So you're burying the lead there, Jordan.

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Yeah, yeah, yeah.

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We went to the courthouse yesterday at 2 p.m.

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Took us about five minutes to get the marriage license.

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That's quick.

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Devin, my partner's mom,

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she married us as a humanist celebrant.

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Okay.

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Took about 15 minutes.

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We were in, out, we went and had dinner.

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Wow.

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It was a good day.

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Congratulations to you both.

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Oh, it was great.

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But really, I want to talk more about knowing.

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Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha.

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No, but for real, congratulations.

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Thank you very much.

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I'm sure everyone out there is very happy

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and excited for you too.

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It was nice.

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It was the best way to do a wedding ever.

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Well, I mean, pretty low key

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in terms of the ceremony and such.

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Very.

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Pretty low key in terms of you announcing it

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to thousands of people.

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Basically, on our show.

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Yeah, yeah, that's generally how I do it.

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Fuck, ugh.

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There was a witness, okay?

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Uh huh.

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Like, to a crime.

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Yes, exactly.

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There was a passerby.

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There was a single witness,

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and we'll be shocked if she's alive in two years.

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There wasn't an official witness.

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It was just someone who happened to be there.

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Yes, yes.

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Someone saw it go down, as it were.

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We had our wedding witnessed by an innocent bystander.

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That was how it goes.

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Well, and that kind of brings us to another point,

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and that is that you all are gonna take

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a little bit of a trip.

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You guys are honeymoon-ish?

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Yeah, yeah.

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So you'll be, there is a vacation coming up.

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Yeah, somewhere in the middle of April,

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something like that.

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Yeah, so if there's some shady release schedule

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going on during that time,

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prepare yourselves, listeners.

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So, Jordan, today, not to take away,

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not to pivot away from this.

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Oh, please, let's pivot away.

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I got married in a courthouse.

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That needs to stay private.

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Fine.

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So, today we've got an episode to go over.

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We're gonna be talking about the 22nd of March

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within the Year of Our Lord 2022.

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Okay.

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This is chaos.

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This episode is gonna be a mess.

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There is a lot of nonsense.

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And the actual episode itself is perfunctory.

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Bizarre?

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Not really.

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No.

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Us going over it, there's some interesting things

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to discuss, but it's far overshadowed

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by the circumstances surrounding this episode.

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Hell yeah.

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And the larger picture of all that.

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Yes.

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So we'll get into this, but before we do,

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let's take a little moment to say hello

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to some new wonks.

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Oh, that's a great idea.

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So first, Jordan's laugh gets me through the day.

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Mike up, thank you so much.

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You are now a policy wonk.

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I'm a policy wonk.

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Thank you very much.

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Thank you.

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Next, to Vico from NOCO, thank you so much.

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You are now a policy wonk.

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I'm a policy wonk.

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Thank you very much.

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Thank you.

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Next, sorry pumpkin, but I'm glad we bonded over this.

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Thank you so much.

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You are now a policy wonk.

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I'm a policy wonk.

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Thank you very much.

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Romantic theme emerging.

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If you have your nickname for your partner as pumpkin,

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does not matter, you claim that one was on you.

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Sure.

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That's yours, yeah.

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Next, the green M&M did January 6th.

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Thank you so much.

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You are now a policy wonk.

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I'm a policy wonk.

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Thank you very much.

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Slide shift.

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That one's new.

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Next, Lynn Zillard, thank you so much.

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You are now a policy wonk.

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I'm a policy wonk.

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Thank you very much.

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And not your Amazon Alexa, thank you so much.

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You are now a policy wonk.

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I'm a policy wonk.

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Thank you very much.

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Thank you.

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So I believe that everybody has a vague understanding

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of the things that have been going on in Alex's

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immediate past, and I feel like we will

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dig into this hole a bit.

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But here is an out of context drop from today's show.

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I will not eat your bugs.

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Fine.

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Fine.

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Leave my bugs alone.

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My bugs specifically?

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Yes.

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Is this a property issue or a bug issue?

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He just does not approve of your bugs.

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Now it makes more sense.

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So I was going to put out an episode on Wednesday

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this week, Jordan.

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You know this because you were involved.

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But truth be told, things got a bit overwhelming,

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and I wanted to see how things ended up playing out.

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Monday was an insane day for things

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that are related to our show.

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First, Joe Biden used the words New World Order,

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and in the process, he gave conspiracy theorists

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decades worth of justification to believe

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that their particular flavor of Shadow Elite Cabal

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runs the world behind the scenes.

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And a big old boner.

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It was a dumb move, but the words

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do convey what Biden was trying to say.

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It's not like it is a New World Order.

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It's an order that is not the same as the old,

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and we are on the world.

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Right, we've discussed that a bit in the past,

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and we'll do it more today.

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As soon as I heard that Biden had

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said that, I was not pumped to tune in for Alex's response

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because I feel like it's super predictable,

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and I don't really have that much more to say

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than we have in response.

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Leaders sometimes talk about the international order

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of the world, the set of relationships, alliances,

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trade agreements, and enemies internationally.

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Sometimes when major changes to the status quo

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of these relationships happen, one

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might say that the world order has become something new.

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It's an expression that makes total sense,

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and there shouldn't be anything wrong with using them

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to describe exactly the situation in the world today.

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There are folks like Alex where he'll hear them and prove,

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like, ah, proves that the devil is puppeteering Biden

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into taunting the world so we don't fight back

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when he tries to eat our children's blood

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or something like that.

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Yep.

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Then Monday evening, everything got thrown into chaos.

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Will Summer reported that Alex's lawyers had requested

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his deposition in the Connecticut Sandy Hook

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case be postponed because of an emergency medical situation.

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Apparently, that afternoon at 3.30 PM,

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Norm Paddis had received a call that Alex was, quote,

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under the care of a physician for medical conditions

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that require immediate and possibly emergency testing.

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Well, you got to trust Norm.

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True.

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He doesn't, you know, speaks no lies, Paddis.

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I've never heard Norm lie.

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Right.

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The entire thing was super fishy.

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Alex had done his show that day and was on air until, like,

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2 PM, and there was no sign of any particular problem.

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In addition, Norm's filing claimed, quote,

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my client has not authorized me to disclose

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the nature of the medical conditions

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or the identity of the physician, which is sketchy.

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This was all in service of trying

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to delay a deposition that was scheduled for this Thursday.

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Right.

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The supposed doctor had advised Alex

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shouldn't sit for the deposition given his medical condition,

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which, again, seems shady.

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Yeah.

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There was a schedule at, pardon me,

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I sort of oversimplified.

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There was Wednesday and Thursday there

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were depositions scheduled for him.

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And then Friday, Rob Dew.

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Yeah.

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What fun.

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Yeah, he had a case of I don't want to do ititis.

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Right.

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I didn't want to rush into anything,

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and turning around to get an episode out

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that discussed this on Wednesday would have been a challenge.

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But at this point, a few more data points have come out.

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The first is that Alex was in studio

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doing his show on Tuesday.

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He wasn't broadcasting from home.

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He didn't have Owen or Harrison cover the show

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so he could keep up the ruse that he was

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trying to pull with the court.

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It was just business as usual.

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And I suspect that the reason for that is that Biden said

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New World Order, and Alex couldn't let Harrison or Owen

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swing at that meatball.

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That was right over the plate.

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Oh, they would whiff so hard it would make everyone cry.

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Like, Alex would have to break into the studio,

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like in a movie, like Mike Myers screaming.

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And he goes, ah!

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You could see a puff of smoke behind him.

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Yeah, the whole thing.

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He's gone.

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The whole thing.

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But this leaves an important question that's still hanging,

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and that is, what's going on with that motion

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that Norm filed in the first place?

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The most obvious answer is that it could be purely an attempt

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to fuck with the plaintiff's case and stall the process,

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as has been Alex's legal strategy up till this point.

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At every turn, he's pulled out any trick

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he can think of to slow things down and try and create

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legal headaches for the opposing counsel.

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This would be totally within his character,

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and I wouldn't put it past him at all.

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There's nothing he really stands to lose

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from sitting for the deposition.

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He can just stonewall like he always does.

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But he does have something to gain in theory

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from trying to drag his feet and try to force the court

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to reschedule his trial date, which

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would be much more fun for him.

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Of course.

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It wouldn't surprise me if that was part of what he was up to.

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Just a fun lark.

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Yeah.

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Why not give it a shot?

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A second option occurred to me, and that is that Alex

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could have COVID again.

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When he got back from California,

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Alex was complaining about feeling sick,

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and we know that he's very reckless and unvaccinated.

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And he's a guy who consistently hangs out

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with other unvaccinated people and takes no precautions

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about getting sick.

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He's in a high risk category, and he just

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took a trip to another state.

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So the opportunities for him to be exposed to something

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seem pretty decent, at least.

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Yeah.

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His behavior as a whole would also fit with the COVID idea,

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because if he had COVID, he would still show up

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to his studio to do the show.

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Yeah, I texted him.

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He doesn't give a shit about his staff, and he's admitted

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he already did that the last time he had COVID.

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He went to the work and exposed everyone to it.

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Yeah, I heard that on Twitter.

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The first thing I texted you is like, well, of course

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he's still in the studio if he has COVID.

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And it would make sense why he wouldn't go to court

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or wouldn't want to go to court, because they

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take things seriously.

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Yeah, yeah, yeah.

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They would not like that.

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Yeah.

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So one of the primary reasons I didn't

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want to jump a gun on this is that I

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wanted to be able to have some kind of information

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and not just come to this show with assumptions and what ifs.

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Thankfully, on Wednesday, a sworn affidavit was filed,

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and we learned a little bit more about this medical emergency.

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As it turns out, on Monday, Alex had

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the complete lunatic and guy who fantasizes

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about murders, Dr. Marbles, on his show

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to do some fun COVID denialism content.

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Good stuff.

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When Marbles showed up at the studio to do the interview,

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his, quote, personal observations of Mr. Jones

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so alarmed him that he insisted on conducting

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a physical examination of Mr. Jones.

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He immediately advised Mr. Jones to go to an emergency room

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or call 911.

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After Mr. Jones refused, the physician

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advised him to stay home, which Mr. Jones did not do.

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Ah, OK.

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So if I understand this correctly,

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Dr. Marbles walked into Info Wars and said,

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you look like shit.

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You got to go to the doctor right now.

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Called 911.

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And Alex, appropriately understanding

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that Dr. Marbles is a moron, went, no, screw you.

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I would assume.

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But right off the bat, we have a few problems.

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The first is that Dr. Marbles is certifiably insane,

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and I wouldn't take directions to the grocery store from him,

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let alone medical advice.

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So this is all coming from him seeing Alex, getting

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freaked out, and then, I guess, checking his pulse.

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Whatever it was that Marbles saw was enough to advise

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Alex to call 911.

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So that does seem serious.

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Although, again, it's advice coming from a lunatic.

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Alex didn't take this advice, although he did pass it

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along to Norm Paddis to use as an excuse

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to not go to his scheduled deposition, which, again,

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probably would have come off a little more convincing

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if Alex hadn't done his show the next day.

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That really punctures any illusion

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that whatever he's dealing with would preclude him

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from sitting for a deposition.

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Oh my god, that's great.

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So having snubbed Dr. Marbles' advice and not called 911,

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Alex did his show the next day, Tuesday the 22nd,

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which is what we're going to cover today.

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Marbles was able to convince Alex

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to go to see a doctor friend of his, Dr. Amy Offutt, who

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practices in Marble Falls, Texas, which is about an hour

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outside Austin.

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And at this point, I feel like we're

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in some kind of a weird Marbles-based synchronousy.

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Yeah, what is going on here?

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I don't know.

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We're Smurfs?

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What is going?

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I feel like I'm asleep or something,

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and I'm dreaming of Marbles.

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Oh, you're just marbling, not the Marbles the way

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that Marbles need to marble.

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Right, she prescribed marble rye.

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So Alex saw Dr. Offutt in the morning of Wednesday, March

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23, and as such, he didn't do his show.

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Additionally, he didn't show up for the first day

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of his scheduled deposition, which

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was supposed to be, like I said, on Wednesday and Thursday.

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This could end up being a problem down the line

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and might result in some sanctions.

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Dr. Offutt was in agreement with Marbles.

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She said that Alex shouldn't be doing this deposition at all,

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based on issues related to stress.

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She said, quote, I had a medical visit

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with Mr. Alex Jones for acute medical issues

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that were time sensitive and potentially serious.

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This is a little tough to parse, because the time sensitivity

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could be in reference to him having a hard deadline

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about the deposition, as opposed to it being something

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where his health dictated the time sensitivity.

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It's unclear.

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In her note, however, there's a redaction.

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Quote, we started a comprehensive medical evaluation,

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and he has labs that are pending to assess his blank status.

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I've asked him to avoid too much stress

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until we have results from the blood tests this morning.

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Sure.

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Assuming that this isn't all an elaborate charade,

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that's kind of worrying.

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And if I had to guess, this has to do

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with the medical condition that's

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on full display every day.

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I guess it has something to do with him having a ridiculously

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high risk of heart attack or stroke.

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Probably.

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Both of these are things that can be exacerbated

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by increased stress, and markers would be the kind of things

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you'd find doing blood tests.

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On Wednesday, Alex didn't do his show,

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but he recorded a long voice memo while he was driving,

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probably to Dr. Offit's office in Marble Falls,

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that Owen played periodically on the show

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to keep the audience from tuning out from his boring ends.

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Right.

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Just in case they might think that Alex accidentally showed up

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again, so they, oh, maybe he'll come back.

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Yeah.

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We got him.

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Yeah.

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So a couple of fun pieces of trivia

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to throw in just for flavor here.

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Dr. Marbles included the dubious claim

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that he was nominated for a Nobel Peace Prize in 2021

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in his statement of facts in his affidavit, which is hilarious.

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I read that.

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I read that, and I still don't believe it's true.

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And yet it's in an affidavit.

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He swore it.

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That's wrong.

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Also, it's hard to get a sense of who Dr. Offit is,

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but I was able to find an August 2021

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article from a local Texas blog about how her and her husband

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had decided not to get vaccinated.

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Good doctor.

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She doesn't run a normal medical office either.

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Not a surprise.

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She works out of a place called Heart and Soul Integrative

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Health and Yoga.

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Oh, OK.

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She apparently has an MD, but her practice

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is in integrative medicine, which is definitely not

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where you'd go if you were in need of acute emergency

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consultation.

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Integrative medicine is built on relationships with patients,

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and her practice seems to actually be

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one that involves a bunch of hormone therapy and yoga.

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Also, she doesn't accept insurance, which is strange.

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Well, no insurance will accept her.

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I think she can say that, but I'm pretty sure

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it goes the other way around.

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I'm not sure.

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Certainly that's not how it's put on the website.

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Yeah, I would imagine so.

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I don't know what's going up here,

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but this is 100% not the doctor.

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You drive an hour to see if you're

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needing a consultation about a condition that

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could be an emergency.

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None of this adds up.

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None of it makes sense.

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And I think that she has some kind of association

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with the America Frontline doctors,

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the hydroxychloroquine ivermectin doctors.

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So I think that that might be where the connection is

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with her, and why he would go see her,

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as opposed to someone potentially more qualified.

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Well, sure as fuck isn't because he wants to start doing yoga.

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I would think not.

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A lot of neck flexibility exercises.

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A lot of demons in yoga, I would assume.

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So it's hard to tell precisely what's going on here,

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but I think it's probably fair to say

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that this is an intersection of a shamefully transparent

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attempt to avoid the deposition, and a real but probably not

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immediately pressing underlying condition

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that Alex is almost certainly struggling with.

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He's in terrible shape, and if he'd

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had a heart attack at any point in the last three years,

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I can't imagine anyone being surprised.

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Unsurprising.

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So on Wednesday evening, the judge in the case, Judge Bellis,

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gave an order that was basically saying

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that Alex didn't listen to Dr. Marbles

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and still came into work.

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So that affidavit isn't really all that convincing

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in terms of the deposition.

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Ah, but he does have a Nobel Peace Prize.

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Maybe.

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Somebody said he should get one.

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OK.

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The court wasn't sure who Dr. Offit was, but taken as a whole,

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the two doctors provided indications

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that Alex had medical issues that, quote,

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while potentially serious, are not currently serious enough

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to either require his hospitalization

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or convince him to stop engaging in his broadcasts.

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Yeah.

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Bellis went on to say, quote, Mr. Jones cannot unilaterally

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decide to continue to engage in his broadcasts,

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but refused to participate in a deposition.

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And thus, she rejected the motion Alex's lawyers had made

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to reschedule, and barring a change in circumstances,

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like Alex actually being hospitalized,

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that deposition would go on as planned

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on Thursday, March 24th.

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So the real question became, what

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happens Thursday morning?

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Did Alex show up to do his show, or does he

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show up at the deposition, or does he do neither?

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Well, let's find out.

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In a very brazen move, Alex did not show up

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for the deposition on Thursday.

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Ooh, bold.

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He also didn't do his show, though the show

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did open with a prerecorded video

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of him complaining about how his trial is a show trial

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and how it's not a big deal for him

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to unilaterally decide that the deposition

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date should be changed.

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No one will ever find me.

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The video he put out is legitimately insane.

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It's complete nonsense.

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Great.

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To be perfectly honest, when he didn't show up

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for Wednesday's deposition, I was

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pretty sure he wasn't going to show up on Thursday either.

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Yeah.

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And a big part of that was because what he was actually

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required to produce for the deposition

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is stuff he could never, never bring up.

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It seemed likely to me that he knew

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he was going to be sanctioned whether he showed up or not.

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And if he was able to not show up and make his not showing up

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somehow about the court not respecting his health needs,

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he had a chance of changing the narrative

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and distracting his audience from his clear inability

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to answer direct questions, particularly

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about his finances.

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Right.

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Since this is a deposition in the penalty phase of the case,

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a number of the topics he was going

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to be required to bring documents about

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were issues with finances, including agreements

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that he had with Young Jevity, which of course is

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the veterinarian Dr. Wallach supplement company,

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and any cryptocurrency transactions,

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and documents related to the connections

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between his various shell companies,

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like PQPR Holdings Limited and JLJR Holdings LLC.

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Good stuff.

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If you're in Alex's position, it's

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strongly in your interest to stonewall this kind of stuff

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because for the charade of your show to really work,

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it's pretty important for the listeners

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to just think that they give Alex money

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and he uses it to fight the big bad globalists.

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Right.

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Looking at the actual details of his finances

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would threaten that image and probably

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chip away at the audience's impetus

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to blindly throw money at Infowars.

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And he's not going to provide this information that

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is being required of him in the deposition,

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and that'll get him sanctioned.

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Yeah.

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He cannot show up, and that'll probably also get him sanctioned.

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Sure.

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Now, there's been a lot of talk and headlines about him

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getting arrested.

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Sure.

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And from my understanding, that was never really

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a likely outcome, but that if he were arrested,

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it would just be a situation where

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someone comes and gets him and makes

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him sit for the deposition.

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It's not like throwing him in jail.

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He doesn't go to debtor's prison until he can pay off

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enough of the settlement in order to sit for the deposition.

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They send out the marshals.

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Yeah.

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I don't know if that's true.

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You go pick them up.

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Right.

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But I feel like this video from Thursday morning

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when he didn't show up for the deposition, the insane one,

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it's too important to ignore.

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So we're going to dip into that really quick

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before we get to the episode from the 22nd.

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All right.

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So here's where it starts.

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And he's like, hey, man, I talked to Dr. Marbles.

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Ladies and gentlemen, thank you so much for joining us

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on this live Thursday edition.

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When I say live, Owen Schroyer is live.

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TDO, I am taping this in the morning from my home

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before I go and get some more medical tests.

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I'm 48.

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I'm under a lot of stress.

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And Dr. Marble was in studio as a guest on other issues

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on Monday and saw some signs of some concerning things.

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Checked me out with a stethoscope and blood pressure

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machine and said that he thought I should go get checked out

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by a doctor.

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And so as soon as I could get into a clinic

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versus checking myself into the emergency room,

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would have been Wednesday morning.

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There's urgent care centers all over the place.

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That's not accurate.

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Nope.

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The only time I could go to this weirdo America's Frontline

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hydroxychloroquine yoga doctor, that's when.

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Hey, look, I can go to an urgent care facility or the emergency

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room or, I don't know, a backwoods doula.

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I could do all of those things.

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But if the yoga lady's available,

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you go to the yoga lady.

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So I think this speaks to the fact that it's not urgent

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and it's not an emergency, first of all.

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Right.

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And then second of all, if I were Alex,

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I'd feel pretty insulted.

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He's a celebrity, and this yoga doctor can't get him in.

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Can't fit him in.

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If I were Alex, I'd feel pretty insulted

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by Dr. Marble's looking at him and saying,

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I need to take your blood pressure.

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That's mean.

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I imagine Alex gets that a lot.

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That's fair.

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So he gets to the motion to postpone the deposition.

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And he has some pretty unhinged ideas.

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Oh, yeah?

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Let's hear them.

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And I think it would be a big deal.

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I might have just had my lawyers contact him

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and said, hey, we probably need to move this deposition.

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They've moved depositions on us, dates and times,

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at least five times that we can document.

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And so it's really not a big deal.

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How could you not document other times?

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I've already sat three times for depositions

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in the Sandy Hook case.

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We've given them over 300,000 pages of documents.

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They got all our financial records, everything,

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for a defamation case.

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And so when you see my financials on the news,

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when you see all the depositions of me on the news,

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and then you see that I've been defaulted saying

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I gave them nothing, it's all a lie.

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These are show trials.

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These are staged events.

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But I intend to sit for the deposition, the fourth one.

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I intend to fight, even though I'm

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in a court case in Connecticut and Texas

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with three different cases, two in Texas, one in Connecticut,

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where I've been found guilty by the judges.

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Every American, even if they have a low IQ,

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knows you're innocent and proven guilty.

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And the judges don't find you guilty.

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Alex doesn't get to decide what is or is not

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a big deal for the court.

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He seems to think that his individual judgment determines

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what rules he is or is not bound to,

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which is a pretty disturbing mindset to have on display.

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Like, it's essentially him saying I'm above the law.

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Well, I mean, he's not above the law.

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He's just, he gets to, you know, like,

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Take it or leave it.

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It's like a tasting plate of the law.

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He's like, ooh, this part of the law, I enjoy it.

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It very well may be the case that other hearings

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or depositions have been rescheduled in the past.

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But when that has happened, it was agreed to by both parties.

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And I would guess that it didn't happen with almost no lead

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time and based on clearly very flimsy rationalizations.

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If Alex is trying to suggest that this medical situation is

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really actually serious to him, his actions

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do not reflect that.

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Doing his show on Tuesday is a gigantic red flag

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that whatever health concern he had isn't actually pressing,

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but just could be a convenient excuse

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to get him out of having to do this deposition

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that he doesn't want to do and probably

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would be damaging if he actually cooperated with.

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I mean, he does, I will say that in all fairness,

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one time the defense lawyers did or the plaintiff's attorneys

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did have to reschedule because the dog ate their homework.

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Sure.

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The judge was like, well, I mean,

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clearly we have to wait until you can print that out again.

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It's a valid reason within the Texas courts.

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Absolutely.

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You know.

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Yeah, and larger picture, though, this

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isn't an isolated case of Alex trying

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to postpone this deposition.

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Alex's legal team has been trying

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to get this deposition as well as that

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of their new corporate representative,

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his lawyer, Brittany Paz.

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He's trying to get those postponed for a while.

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And according to a court filing, quote,

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they have also suggested that they

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may need to extend the trial date in this case.

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So Alex and his lawyers are trying to push this back

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and kick the can down the road.

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It's one thing to need to reschedule something.

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It's another to exhibit a consistent pattern

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of creating fake excuses to drag out a process so you might

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never actually have to face the consequences that

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are coming to you.

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And that's what Alex is doing.

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Yeah, and it's not like he's Chevron.

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He can't, like, afford a judge and buy all that stuff,

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you know, he's stuck.

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He can afford half a judge.

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He can afford a little bit of a judge, yeah.

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Like a little tasting plate of the judge.

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And also, I think in that clip, you kind of get a tell

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from Alex that he knows he's full of shit.

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He says that he's already sat for a deposition three times

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in, quote, the Sandy Hook case.

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And he uses the singular noun there.

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Later in the clip, he shows that he's keenly aware

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that there's multiple different cases, which

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is part of the reason that he's required to sit

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for separate depositions.

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And then there's the dynamic that he's completely

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abused the discovery and deposition processes

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in the first phase of the trial.

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And now we're into the damage phase,

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where there's a different set of facts

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that the depositions are set to explore.

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So obviously, there's going to be more times

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you're required to sit.

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Alex knows all this, but he's counting on his audience

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accepting this bullshit woe is me

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take where the whole world is conspired

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against him in this show trial.

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And honestly, it's probably going

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to work with most of his listeners,

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but it's a complete fraud.

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Yeah, I mean, it is weird how everybody

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knows that this is malicious.

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There's nobody who doesn't know that this is malicious.

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And if you don't know that this is malicious,

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you are hopelessly naive, right?

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And yet at the same time, it's like, well,

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we've given other people chances before

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when it wasn't malicious.

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So in the sense of fairness, we need

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to afford the same chance even when people are malicious.

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And it's like, we could just not do that.

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Well, there's a limit.

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There's a limit, and I think we're well past that.

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I think we're well past, which is the problem.

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Right.

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Limits should be where it ends.

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And to be clear, I mean, I do think

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Alex has a actual medical condition that

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is at the root of this.

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I just think it's bullshit the way he's using it.

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I don't think it's sincere.

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Well, I mean, if you're worried about the deposition being

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stressful for you, my friend, I'm

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afraid that's what a deposition is going to be for you, period.

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Sure.

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There's no breezy deposition for him.

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I actually don't think that he's too stressed out

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by these depositions, because he knows he can just say,

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I don't know.

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I don't know.

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And kill time.

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I don't know.

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I mean, I said something.

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The issue, too, though, is anything that's stress.

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Like, if stress is legitimately the issue,

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he screams and freaks the fuck out on his show.

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He constantly storms out a studio

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whenever he's mad at the crew.

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Right.

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There's no more stressful experience for him

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than doing his show.

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Sure.

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And I think it would be much easier

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to take this kind of a complaint seriously

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if his actions didn't indicate that he was still

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more than willing to do the thing that's

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painfully obviously stressful.

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Sure.

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I mean, maybe he is doing yoga, then.

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No.

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So Alex gets into the issue of default judgments,

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and I think he steps in it.

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Default judgments are when somebody never shows up

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one time, or never shows up a quarter, doesn't file papers,

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or gets caught filing fraudulent documents.

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And even then, you get sanctioned

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with lesser sanctions.

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We have been fed into the Democratic Party

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process by political judges.

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Even if that's the standard that Alex

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is using to determine when default judgments are justified,

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his case would merit a default judgment.

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He and Owen Schroyer both didn't appear for scheduled depositions

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early in these cases.

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He didn't respond to multiple requests or documents.

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On multiple occasions, he sent completely unprepared people

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to depositions to pretend to be corporate representatives,

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which may not be the same thing as filing fraudulent documents,

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but man, it's close.

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Also, he had a ton of opportunities

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to stop abusing the process.

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He was given smaller sanctions repeatedly,

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and it was abundantly clear to anyone paying attention

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that he was going to keep that behavior the fuck up,

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and that sanctions weren't having any effect

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on his non-participation and abuse of the process.

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That's why he likes Putin.

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He did all this to himself.

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And even by his own metric that he's laying out here,

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he deserves that default judgment against him.

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He has just condemned himself, essentially.

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Well, I mean, you say that, but it's like,

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what is the words that he says?

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You know, like, what do they mean?

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You know, and I feel like you're just

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being unfair with your interpretation

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of the meaning of words.

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Yeah, there may be.

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No.

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So Alex is just mad at everybody that's like,

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they're the ones trying to cash in on Sandy Hook.

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Of course, yeah.

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They picked a few things I talked about years ago out

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of context, made me the Sandy Hook man.

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And now when we go to court, literally the judges

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are primping with their mirrors and their makeup,

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and they're micing them up, and micing up the lawyers,

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and the BBC, and HBO, and Netflix are there.

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And then they get up and say, he's

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getting rich off Sandy Hook.

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He made his whole career off of it.

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As the New York Times writer says, buy my book, buy my book.

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It just came out in time for the trial.

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Buy my book.

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Everything they say about me is who they are.

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Elizabeth Williamson's book is available.

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Apparently shout out to Liz on this one.

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You could buy Sandy Hook, American Tragedy.

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Alex, give it a nice little plug there.

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Yeah, yeah.

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Yeah, I think he's distorting the actual conversation.

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I don't know if anybody is saying that he

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made his career on Sandy Hook.

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No.

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More just that his actions in the avenue of his career

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he profited by inflicting an immense pain on the people who

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experienced that tragedy.

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If he does not understand clearly

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what the problem is after having it been explained

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to him in so many ways with so many carrots, so many sticks,

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sanctions, blood, everything.

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He understands it fully, but he can't appear to understand it

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or else the audience will be like, wait, you suck, man.

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Yeah, I know.

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But isn't that weird that we're on like four or five

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years of this and he still has to pretend like he can't learn?

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Yeah, he really, oh, well, there's only four ways.

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No, that's fair.

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None of these follow the law.

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Yeah.

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So Alex makes a claim that could get him sued

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if he talks any more about this.

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The groups around Sandy Hook Tragedy

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have brought in hundreds of millions of dollars of donations.

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Some of the people involved rake in up to a million a year

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themselves personally.

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And when we go to trial, all that's

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coming out one way or another.

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These judges that aren't judges think

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they can contain this and control all this.

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It's going to be their Waterloo because America

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knows how corrupt and how to control the system is.

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So look.

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Oh, boy.

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So who cares what charitable groups have raised?

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Like, who cares?

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They make money and use it for charitable causes.

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I don't know.

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That's kind of.

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What does that have to do with this case?

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Nothing.

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You notice that Alex isn't saying

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that particular plaintiffs in the case

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have brought in millions of dollars from Sandy Hook

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because if he did, he would get sued again.

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Well, that's kind of a problem.

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That's the impression that he's trying to give the audience.

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But he knows damn well that he can't

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say that because if he did, he would be defaming them again.

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Say a name.

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Yeah.

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Go ahead and say a name.

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We saw this play out in the last deposition

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that Alex was in, the one in December

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that I went to in Austin.

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Alex has complaints about a group called Sandy Hook Promise.

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And there are some questions that Alex

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seems to have about their fundraising and their activism.

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Alex believes that all of the Sandy Hook parents

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are one monolithic group, so he's

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decided that the plaintiffs in the case against him

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are interchangeable with Sandy Hook Promise, which

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he literally knows to not be true based on this exchange

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from that deposition.

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What is Honor Network?

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You know what that is, right?

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I think that's a fundraising mechanism that he's involved

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in.

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I have heard of that.

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A fundraising mechanism.

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What do you, how do you, let's start,

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because I know you're not guessing, because you just

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said you weren't going to guess.

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So where did you hear that?

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Who told you that?

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I can't remember exactly.

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It was like, there's been news articles

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about the tens of millions, hundreds of millions of dollars

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raised by the Sandy Hook families.

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That's something called Sandy Hook Promise, right?

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And some controversy about where that money goes.

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Yeah.

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So I have heard about that.

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Yeah.

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Does Leonard Posner have anything

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to do with Sandy Hook Promise?

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Like I told you, I've heard of him in the Honor Network.

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I've heard that, and I've heard the other name.

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He said, I don't know.

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I'm really.

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You're just conflating.

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I mean, you've heard some random stuff,

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and now you're trying to smear Mr. Posner with it, right?

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He has nothing to do with Sandy Hook Promise, does he?

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Objection form.

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You're asking me questions, so I don't know.

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Yeah.

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And I'm asking you, what do you know about Honor Network?

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And you just started telling me some stuff,

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but it's not anything you actually know, right?

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Alex may try to yell and derail the trial

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with this kind of stuff, but it's not going to go anywhere

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or do anything, because his point is meaningless.

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He can use this insinuation here on his show

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to make the audience think that he's

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going to walk in like a conquering hero

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and put the system on trial.

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These judges aren't judges.

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It's all a farce, and Alex knows that he can

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say exactly what he's saying.

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But if he adds one more detail, he's

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going to owe a ton more money and maybe

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create a whole new suit.

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Another summary judgment on the way.

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Also, not for nothing, but Alex's breathing

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is super heavy in this clip, and it's kind of worrying.

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It doesn't sound good here.

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Yeah.

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I mean, at this point, I'm waiting

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for him to walk into the court and just

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be like, uh, Tubal Cain?

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Well, Rogan would tell him to.

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Yeah, that's fair.

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Jimmy James.

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So Alex gets into how, I think maybe he

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was talking to Marjorie Taylor Greene,

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and she told him about HIPAA.

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Oh, god, no.

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Because Alex has some thoughts about HIPAA.

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My health issues are my issues, and they're private,

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and they're protected by HIPAA.

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And I mean, you saw this judge up in Connecticut yesterday,

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and you saw the lawyers, these Democrat Party lawyers

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that work for Bloomington.

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Oh, he's a Democrat Party lawyer?

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Openly saying, we want him arrested and put in jail

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if he doesn't show up for some multi-day long way Connecticut

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law works.

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It's just unlimited, long deal.

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And so when I talk to these doctors, they said,

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you're crazy.

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You need to go home, you need to go get these tests.

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I got more tests set today, more tomorrow.

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And you need to stay away from the microphone.

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Well, here I am, even though I shouldn't be on here,

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because I have to respond to the hundreds of news articles,

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including the Associated Press, that are attacking me

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and saying I'm a horrible person.

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I don't know if anyone cares to cover whether or not

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you're a bad person.

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I mean, you are.

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Yeah, I think that's taken his writ.

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Yeah, I think we all assumed it.

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Yeah.

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So anyway, he's going to protect his health privacy with HIPAA.

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But then he goes on to just immediately talk

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about his health situation.

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Oh, he's violating HIPAA.

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I might just release my medical records,

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make you all look like fools.

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Is that what we've got?

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I've had EKGs, I've had scans, I've had it all.

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And I started getting sick after I got COVID last year,

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almost killed my dad.

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And I took care of them.

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And it was really bad, Delta variant.

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And I got spike protein.

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And like everybody else, it attacked

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my cardiovascular system, OK?

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And so again, somebody on death row

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is allowed to go get their medical treatment.

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And hearings and things are postponed.

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But I'm treated worse than somebody on death row.

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Wow.

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Yeah.

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If you can believe anything Alex says,

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then there's a decent chance he might

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be suffering from long-term complications from one

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of the times he got COVID.

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He may have also gotten it again,

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and then that exacerbates the situation.

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Totally.

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But just based on what he's saying, this makes total sense.

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He's someone who's been super unsafe with his behavior.

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He's gotten COVID multiple times.

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And as we've learned, there are many poorly understood

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phenomena afoot with this virus, where

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lingering effects, that's not too uncommon.

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I wouldn't honestly be too surprised

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if Alex has heart damage that was caused by one

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of the times he got COVID.

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Totally.

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That being said, he's also a super unhealthy person

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who's at high risk of heart disease, even without COVID.

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So I don't want to jump to too many conclusions.

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Sure.

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The part that makes COVID as an idea fit kind of neatly

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is Alex's claim that he was getting sicker since he

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got COVID that second time, which

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may be true and thus a symptom, or it

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may be the way that his mind has experienced things,

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but it's not actually an accurate reflection

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of the progression of his symptoms.

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It'll be interesting to see how this plays out.

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And I actually don't think it's going

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to be that interesting for anyone but me.

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But I'll be keeping an eye on the situation

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and see if Alex just stops talking about this.

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I mean.

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As soon as it's not a convenient excuse for him.

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I mean, the reason that people bring up HIPAA

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is almost exclusively when they have COVID,

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and they don't want to tell you they have COVID,

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because of whatever reason.

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Well, recently.

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Well, yeah.

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I mean, well, yes, recently.

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I think there are plenty of other reasons

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where HIPAA comes up in appropriate settings.

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Oh, no.

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When I was in hearing aids, I worked with HIPAA all the time.

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Yeah, yeah.

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I have all kinds of knowledge about HIPAA.

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I had to take a class on it, the whole thing.

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None of it was like, hey, don't tell

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nobody you got hearing aids.

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Yeah.

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OK.

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I recall it being relevant.

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I was a temp for a short period of time

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at a health insurance company.

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I dealt with underwriting.

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Yeah.

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Yeah, yeah.

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And so I think there was some things that I

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had to understand about privacy.

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Yeah.

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I mean, you know, one of the simplest

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is if somebody is like, hey, can I have my medical records?

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You have to be like, who are you?

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What's the password?

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Can I see you?

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So Alex is kind of bummed out, actually,

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that he doesn't get to go to the deposition.

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I hate this man so much.

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To be talking about here.

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And I'm literally, quite frankly,

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was looking forward to these depositions.

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So I was going to chew this Chris Maddy guy out.

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And.

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Hold me back.

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And they're like, you're crazy if you

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go do your normal 10, 12, 14 hour work days.

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You can't do it.

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And so I got some more tests coming up today and tomorrow.

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And I'm going to get those knocked out.

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And I should be fine.

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But I might have to go on some medication or whatever.

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And it's just the stress of this world.

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I really care.

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And I've never really made any bones about that.

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But again, they want me arrested.

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Wait, is it the stress of the world?

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Or is it long COVID?

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Or do you have a heart condition?

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It could be anything.

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He's having trouble breathing, Dan.

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Why don't you care about a man and struggle?

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I like the idea, though, that he's like, oh, could.

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I was wanting to get in there and chew out that Chris Maddy.

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I would have just fucking put on my Sunday best.

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I tried to put a million dollar bounty on him.

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That didn't work.

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That didn't work.

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I got to yell at him.

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When was the last time a Texan put a million dollar bounty

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on somebody and it didn't work?

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Crazy.

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So look, Alex has got a message for the leftist stuff.

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Sure.

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And that is, hey, sorry, sorry, leftist.

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That's really nice of him to apologize.

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And yeah, sorry, leftist.

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My health comes before you.

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Your plan to become famous off my name

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and to steal my identity and to say I'm the Sandy Hook man.

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You're the Sandy Hook people.

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You eat, drink, sleep, and everything.

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That's what you do.

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I will continue to question any big event, because a lot

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of times they're staged, like the Gulf of Tonkin.

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I'm just amazed.

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Jesse Smiley, WMDs in Iraq.

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You just can't stop.

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The list goes on and on.

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But you guys are the ones that dredge this up

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and misrepresent what I've said over and over again,

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and it's disgusting.

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So you guys can move your depositions.

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You guys can do whatever you want, however you want,

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whenever you want.

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And then after all these depositions,

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all these things I've done, you turn around

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and say that I have not, you say that I have,

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oh, I'm hiding and all this crap.

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Everybody knows Alex Jones doesn't hide.

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Everybody knows Alex Jones on the front lines of this situation.

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Alex Jones doesn't hide, I say, as I record this

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from my bedroom.

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I'm really concerned here.

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That's fucking Hitler in the underground bunker

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being like, I've never hidden from a fight in my life.

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I'm on the front line.

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I will fight to the very last, kaboom.

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This is nonsense.

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So stupid.

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Also, I'm conflicted.

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I can't really tell if I think that that cough is real

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or if it's like me trying to convince my parents I'm sick.

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Totally, I'm right there with you.

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That's the problem with trying to assess the information

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that's being put out by a liar, is you really, really

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don't know.

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Like if taken seriously, I think it's fucked up

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that he's breathing so heavily and coughing

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throughout this little video that he put out.

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It's like no more than 10 minutes, probably.

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No, I listened to the coughs and then replayed them in my head

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like I'm in a seven, just like, oh, is this a signal?

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Is there a slight frequency variation

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that'll prove he's lying?

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You know, like, I don't know.

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Yeah, it's tough.

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So anyway, here's how this ends.

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Everybody knows Alex Jones doesn't hide.

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Everybody knows Alex Jones on the front lines

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of this situation.

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And I preach to the listeners supporting us.

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We intend to battle all these kangaroo court operations,

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but it takes money to hire the lawyers to do it.

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So please, please support us at infoawardstore.com

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or by calling toll free, 888-253-3139.

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Also, our other great sponsors have a lot of great products.

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And that's basically for everybody that tuned in today.

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I want to know where Alex Jones is.

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That's it.

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And you know, like I said, they want me arrested.

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And again, they tell you I'm defaulted.

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I'm already guilty.

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Well, then why am I having to testify if I'm guilty?

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And again, I'm happy to go do that.

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It's just that this isn't the time for me to be doing that.

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And they got to move deposition.

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So I am as good as these people are.

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I have rights.

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I have a first amendment.

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And I have a right to my medical life.

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And I'm sorry you don't like that.

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I know all over the world,

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they're taking conservatives and Christians healthcare away.

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The left is their social credit score.

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These people are dangerous authoritarians and they know it

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and they're going to be defeated.

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All right, back to Owen Schroyer and the live broadcast,

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infoawards.com, the front lines of human liberty.

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I am fascinated by, I mean, first of all, obviously plug,

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obviously that's going to be in there,

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but I'm fascinated by this consistent behavior.

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And like,

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is there something about his audience that like really

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responds to like petulant baby outbursts?

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There must be.

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Like, I can't imagine hearing somebody act like that

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and being like, fuck yeah, that's, that's,

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that is a guy who is fighting.

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I mean, that's somebody who's really doing the work

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on the front line.

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Someone is just, wah.

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That's a 13 year old.

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That is a 13 year old in fucking eighth grade.

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Who's like, I'm just a little bit too tall.

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Like it's, it's fucking awful to listen to this whiny,

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whiny team.

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Yeah, it's like, it's, it's, it comes off like,

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they didn't let me on the football team

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cause they don't like me.

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Totally, totally.

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Cause I'm too good.

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I'm too good.

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I'm so good.

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I'm better than everybody else on the baseball team.

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And yeah, that shortstop, whatever.

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I'm better than him.

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Yeah.

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So now we jump to the 22nd and that is Tuesday,

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the day that Alex decided to come do his show

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as opposed to staying home as under doctor's orders.

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Right.

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And I think it might be a critical mistake.

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I mean like, regardless of what happens on the show,

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there is still the,

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the image of him coming to do the show

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undercuts his argument so entirely.

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Really breaks it down.

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See, I wouldn't have done it if I were him.

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I can't do a three hour deposition,

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but I can do a three hour show.

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Right.

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Yeah, completely different.

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So here's where we start off.

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It's Tuesday, March 22nd, 2022.

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322-2022.

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Quite a date for the old boys over at Skull and Bones.

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What?

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And the Bohemian Grove and their satanic death cult.

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Why?

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Hellbent on establishing their new world order,

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destroying the Christian era and the Renaissance

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and establishing in its place

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an absolute scientific dictatorship over humanity.

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Now, many a politician and leader,

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going back to World War II,

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has talked of a new world order.

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So this is Alex trying to suggest

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that there's some kind of a mystical, magical spell

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that Biden was casting by using the words new world order

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on this holiest of days to the globalist, 322.

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The problem is though that Biden said them

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the day before on 321.

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Alex is just whining about it.

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Ah, it's a different time zone.

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Right, I know.

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Oh, okay.

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322, 322 is on the Skull and Bones logo.

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Oh, that makes sense.

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Yeah, there's different theories about exactly

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what the significance of that number is,

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but I don't know, I don't think it matters.

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No, no, wow.

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I could not be less interested in him being like,

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but also many a politician over the years

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has said new world order.

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It's true.

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That should undercut your argument.

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At no point in time,

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despite many politicians having called

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for the new world order

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and you claiming that every time they do so,

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they are creating that new world order that you so fear

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and them still having not done so.

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Yeah, it does seem to keep happening,

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particularly around times when situations

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are changing in the world.

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You know, here's what I would liken that to.

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If I said many a time the pastor of a church

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has said that the end times are upon us,

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the following part would be,

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and they still aren't because they're full of shit, right?

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And so that would be the same response.

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Yeah, I think it would be a fine response.

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We'll see how you respond to this.

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Something about the lineage of the term new world order.

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All right, now I'm listening.

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This might be close to racist, Nazi-ish.

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Oh, there we go.

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Many a politician and leader going back to World War II

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has talked of a new world order.

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And H.G. Wells, more than 100 years ago,

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wrote the bestselling book titled A New World Order.

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And it came out in the Nuremberg trials

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of the Nazis in World War II, at the end of World War II,

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that the head of German propaganda, Joseph Goebbels,

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wanted to kill H.G. Wells because of his book,

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The New World Order.

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Wait, is that good or bad?

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That book was a different worldview of a world government

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than what the Nazis wanted,

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and they knew that H.G. Wells, the nonfiction,

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also fiction writer, was the brain trust

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of the Anglo-American establishment.

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Bad word.

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That's the name of the British US

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global government combine,

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and the Nazis had their own New World Order,

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and Adolf Alois Hitler, you may have heard of him,

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had an order out to kill H.G. Wells.

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This is mainline history.

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So when you hear about the New World Order,

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you might pop your ears up a little bit

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and open your eyes up and focus.

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I think that the extent of Alex's actual knowledge

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about World War II is that Hitler's middle name is Alois.

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It really does feel like it.

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He says it all the time.

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He's really aware of it.

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He says Adolf Alois Hitler

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more than he says Barack Hussein Obama.

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Yeah, that's because it's mainline news.

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I'm flabbergasted.

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I mean, you know when you love a person,

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you just give them their full name.

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So Alex is making all this up.

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There are a couple of important things to point out here,

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and the first is that you can't just throw around claims

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like it came out in the Nuremberg Trials

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and expect that to stand as compelling argumentation.

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No, it came out-

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It's nonsense.

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Actually, I made that argument at the Nuremberg Trials

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where it came out and thus-

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And Francis Boyle was the lead prosecutor.

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Ooh, okay.

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And Dr. Marbles and I have got a peace problem.

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So the material involved in the Nuremberg Trials

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is so dense and copious that understanding all of it

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would itself be the work of a person's entire career.

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If you want to cite something in it,

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you really need to be more specific

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because to not do so puts your audience

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at the terrible position of either taking your word for it

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or I guess scouring thousands and thousands of pages

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of documentation to see if what you're saying

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shows up anywhere.

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Another important thing to keep in mind

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is that Joseph Goebbels was not tried at any Nuremberg Trial

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because he had already killed himself

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prior to the end of the war.

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The Yale Law School through the Avalon Project

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hosts transcripts of the entire proceedings

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of the Nuremberg Trial,

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and H.G. Wells isn't mentioned once.

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It is recorded that Wells' books were included

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in the books that were burned beginning in 1933,

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but it's really unfair to pretend

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that Wells was the main target.

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Like Magnus Hirschfeld's Institute of Sex Research

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was definitely a central target,

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and then tons of authors who the Nazis didn't feel

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were German enough or the right kind of German

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had their works burned.

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It's a long list, including people like F. Scott Fitzgerald,

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Upton Sinclair, Franz Kafka, and Helen Keller.

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Like it's a lot of people.

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It wasn't so much the authors as it was

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just like general knowledge itself was under attack.

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And I think that the awareness that H.G. Wells

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was included in that book burning list

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may be what Alex is exaggerating or embellishing here.

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Maybe he's just combining that H.G. Wells

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had a book named New World Order,

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and you know, Nuremberg Trials is a great place

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to put it in.

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Yeah, so he just makes up whatever he wants

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to make fake points when he's trying to sell

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some sort of a narrative, whatever that day's narrative is.

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Alex's movie Endgame begins with a misquotation

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from H.G. Wells' New World Order,

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and I have absolutely zero qualms saying

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that he has never read that book.

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Zero.

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He almost certainly just saw that faulty quotation

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in a John Birch Society pamphlet his dad gave him,

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and that's just been his reality sense.

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An important point to bring up here is that

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in some ways you could really see

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what Alex is doing here as being pro-Nazi.

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I know that he wouldn't accept that characterization,

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but it really feels like he's applying his own worldview

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and motives to Goebbels here in a way

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that's really only meant to get the audience

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to think that maybe the Nazis

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weren't doing all that bad a stuff.

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They were fighting Alex's New World Order.

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I've been trying to parse exactly what it was he was saying,

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and that's where I'm getting stuck,

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because it does sound...

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I'm not sure if that's the only reading,

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but it's a reading.

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It sure is.

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Alex constantly talks about the globalists

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and the New World Order as being working

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for the literal Christian devil.

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It kind of paints the Nazis as not as bad as they seem

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if they too are fighting against

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the literal Christian devil.

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Well, I mean, what he said was

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that H.G. Wells had a book named New World Order,

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and Goebbels wanted to kill him

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because the Nazis had their own New World Order,

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and we are told pretty clearly

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that H.G. Wells' New World Order...

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Is the devil one.

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Is the devil one.

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Right.

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So...

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Unless the devil is like farming out like all kinds of...

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I mean, you know, it's this...

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Back in World War II, it was like everybody

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was playing in the minor leagues, you know?

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There were a bunch of smaller town devils.

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There was barnstorming devils who would come in.

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They'd have their own kind of thing going on for a while.

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Yeah, I find this absurd, but...

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Yeah.

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So I can't say with any certainty

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how much of this is intentional,

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but if Alex isn't trying to be a Nazi apologist,

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he needs to be way more careful

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about how he talks about issues related to World War II.

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The first step would be to just stop

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making stuff up about it,

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and then after that, stop saying things

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that clearly indicate that you personally identify

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with a Nazi leadership.

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Yeah.

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These would be admirable goals

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to try and bring into the proceedings.

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You know, a lot of politicians and writers

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have said the words New World Order over the years,

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and the one I agree with is Goebbels.

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That's probably not the way you want to go, right?

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Yep, probably not.

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That's a bad bad.

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So yeah, Alex might sympathize with the Nazis.

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Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha!

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So anyway, Alex gets into talking

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about New World Order stuff, as he has been.

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Of course.

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But I think in this clip, he actually kind of lets slip

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a little bit too clearly that he knows what people mean

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when they use that term. Right.

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The politicians will say,

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oh, well, a New World Order just means a reshuffling

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of the power structure, and it can certainly mean that.

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Okay.

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We're putting together a compilation,

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there's hundreds of these

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that I'll be airing later in the day,

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of prime ministers and presidents and world leaders

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defining their New World Order

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as world government,

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as autocratic, authoritarian, world government.

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And Klaus Schwab has come out saying,

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we have the video,

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China is the model of world government.

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So it's not just a world government,

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it's a worldwide authoritarian government

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with forced abortion, infanticide, giant death camps.

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You will own nothing, you will have nothing,

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and you will be happy or you'll go to a camp.

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So keep in mind this characterization

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that Alex is making,

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because he's saying that they have this compilation,

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and he's going to play it later,

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and we'll see if it holds up to this standard.

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It sounds like it's a pretty big compilation.

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Yeah, yeah, and spoiler alert,

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there's no Klaus Schwab in it.

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It doesn't play any video of Klaus Schwab saying

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that China is the model of the New World Order

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that he wants to create.

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Seems like that's important.

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Yeah, but Alex says,

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I have the video in the same way that he says,

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it's in the white papers or it's not even debated

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or whatever, it's just a tick.

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He's got the video.

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Yeah, it's just a tick for his audience to be like,

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oh, he means it this time.

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He's definitely telling the truth now.

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Never heard that one before.

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I also want to touch on the meme

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that Alex dropped at the end there,

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the you will have nothing and you'll be happy thing.

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This is something that's really caught on

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among shithead skeptics

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who don't actually want to put any work in,

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but want to present themselves as competent news

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and politics critics.

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I'm talking about people like Rogan and Russell Brand.

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Brand has made multiple videos

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where this slogan is used in a nightmarish way

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to characterize the great reset conspiracy

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that he's hard at work

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making his millions of fans scared about.

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Schwab never said you will own nothing and you'll be happy.

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That's not a quote.

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It's a paraphrasing of something that was written

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by Danish MP Ida Alken in 2016.

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Ida was envisioning what life might be like in 2030

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and part of that vision was that things

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that had historically been seen as products

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were now services.

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This essay is a little bit far-fetched,

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but the essential premise is that innovation

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and technological advancement

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will have made everything so available and abundant

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that there's no real reason to own anything anymore

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since everything will be free.

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From the essay, quote,

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first communication became digitized and free to everyone.

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Then when clean energy became free,

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things started to move quickly.

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Transportation dropped dramatically in price.

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It made no sense for us to own cars anymore

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because we could call a driverless vehicle

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or flying car for longer journeys within minutes.

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There are also aspects of this vision

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that are kind of dumb inasmuch

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as they seem incredibly inefficient.

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For instance, this part, quote,

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once in a while I will choose to cook for myself.

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It's easy.

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The necessary kitchen equipment

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is delivered at my door within minutes.

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Since transport became free,

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we've stopped having all those things stuffed in our home.

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Why keep a pasta maker or crepe cooker

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crammed in our cupboards?

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We can just order them when we need them.

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That seems like a step backwards in terms of efficiency.

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I'm not sure.

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Listen, imagination is fun.

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Sure.

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Ida's conclusion is that

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this new technologically advanced city

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provides literally everything a person could want

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but also affords no actual privacy

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and, quote, all in all, it's a good life.

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There's no specific plan laid out here.

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It's more or less a creative writing exercise

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where someone came up with some ideas

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of what life might look like in the future.

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Right.

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An excerpt from this essay

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was included in the World Economic Forum's video

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and blog post, quote,

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Eight Predictions for the World in 2030.

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A paraphrasing of the ideas that Ida wrote out

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is included and summarized as, quote,

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you will own nothing and you will be happy.

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This is not a description of some nefarious plan

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or the stated goal that Klaus Schwab is working towards.

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It's a clunky brief synopsis of this person's essay

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but that's not how it's reported

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by people like Alex or Rogan or Russell Brand.

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For them, it's basically a threat,

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like a parent saying you'll eat your peas

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and you'll be happy.

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Do you know what's really funny about it?

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What's that?

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That I remember a specific person saying,

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like, get rid of all your stuff.

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You'll have nothing.

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Right.

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And you'll be happy about it, right?

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Was it the devil?

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No, no, it wasn't the devil.

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Wait, wait, let me see if I can.

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He was like, no, no, and it was like, it was way back.

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Okay, and he was talking to some guy

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and the guy was like, I've got all this shit.

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Ah, what do I do?

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And this guy was like, oh, just get rid of it.

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You don't need shit because guess what?

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It's not making you happy.

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Did this involve like a parable

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about a camel in the metaphor?

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No, no, no way.

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Absolutely not.

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Come on now.

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So these people are fucking children.

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Yeah.

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They're desperate to portray their imagined enemies

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as parental figures for them to lash out at

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because in some way, I feel like that's the only way

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they can experience the world.

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Yeah.

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And that kind of goes back to Alex's,

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like, his whiny, petulant nonsense in response

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to not getting his way about the legal case.

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I mean, it's not the first time that daddy issues

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will have an outsized effect on the world's end.

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Yeah, I understand that and I appreciate it,

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but I do feel like there's a certain aspect to it

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that it's like, I didn't realize,

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I realized that this kind of psychological phenomenon

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or whatever can have an impact.

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Right.

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I just didn't realize it was this profitable

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in terms of building an audience.

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I always thought that acting like this was a bad move.

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Yeah, I kind of thought it was embarrassing.

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Yeah, maybe that's cause I don't have daddy issues.

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Sure.

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Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha.

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So that's why I trailed off at the end.

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Right, so in this next clip,

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we find out that Alex was a little bit late

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finding out about Biden's comments.

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Oh no.

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So I was very tired yesterday

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and I was going to bed early about nine o'clock

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and my phone started blowing up

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by a lot of well-known talk show hosts

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and folks calling me and texting me saying,

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did you see Biden?

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Did you see Biden?

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Did you see Biden call for a new world order?

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And I said, no, I'm going to see it now.

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So I got up, got a glass of water,

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got in front of the big screen computer.

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Great story.

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That's better for you in the phones.

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Extra details.

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And I pulled it up and sure as hell there it was.

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So this could be a symptom of Alex's COVID,

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you know, exhaustion.

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What, terrible stories?

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No, well, no, but going to bed so early.

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Oh yeah.

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And this is me grasping at straws to build up a case

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because Alex's petty fascism is boring.

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It's honestly bizarre for Alex to say

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that he heard about this clip at 9 PM

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because of some texts from a person

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he's clearly trying to imply is Tucker,

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the most important person in the world.

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He is.

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That speech Biden gave was a little bit earlier in the day

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and it was going around like a wildfire

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in the right wing

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and conspiracy information spaces immediately.

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I texted you at like seven.

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So I imagine Alex is like,

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he's over two hours behind it.

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Like we're the tip of the spear.

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Alex had no idea.

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What an idiot.

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Yeah.

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This is pathetic.

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So, you know, another thing that's pathetic

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is the way the media treats Alex.

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Oh, I mean, they're just so unfair.

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Totally.

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They just, it's like,

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oh, you can't ruin hundreds of millions of lives

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without somebody being like, I'll mean to you.

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Put that aside for a second.

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Oh, okay.

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Because look, here's the deal.

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Alex talks about the new world order.

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Sure.

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And everybody's like boo this.

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Yeah.

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But then Biden says new world order.

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I love the new world order.

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No one's mad.

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Nobody's mad.

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Now simultaneously we have the New York Times,

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the Washington Post, CNN.

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I have articles here today specifically saying

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I talk about a new world order

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and that it's hateful and bad and that it doesn't exist

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and that I should be taken off the air.

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Their latest article was America has a free speech problem

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in the New York Times on Friday

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because they don't want us discussing

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the future of the world.

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Remember what I played yesterday?

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Franklin Schwab says we will decide the future of the humans.

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Terrible Schwab impression.

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Just trash.

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That was real bad.

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That's even not in line with his normal Schwab.

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That's worse than his bad Schwarzenegger.

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He has very little range.

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More importantly though, people criticize Alex

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because he makes shit up

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and then he uses the idea of a new world order

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to push incredibly hateful political positions

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to deny acts of right wing terrorism in general

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and then target marginalized and vulnerable populations.

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It's a meaningful distinction

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but I don't expect Alex to ever recognize it publicly.

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Also that New York Times article Alex is talking about

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actually says the opposite of what he's claiming it does.

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The way he's talking about it

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reveals that he's literally just read the headline

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and assumed that it must be about how free speech

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is a problem because it allows Alex

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to say the things that he does.

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Right.

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He couldn't have even read the first two paragraphs

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without realizing that this article is saying the opposite.

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Quote, for all the tolerance and enlightenment

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that modern society claims,

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Americans are losing hold of a fundamental right

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as citizens of a free country.

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The right to speak their minds

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and voice their opinions in public

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without fear of being shamed or shunned.

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This social silencing, the de-pluralization of America

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has been evident for years

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but dealing with it stirs yet even more fear.

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It feels like a third rail, dangerous.

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For a strong nation and open society, that is dangerous.

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The irony of him criticizing that specific editorial

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is that everybody at the New York Times

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who is Alex Jones wrote that editorial.

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Yeah.

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There's like, I read that shit

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and it's fucking shameful.

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It's wild.

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It is disgusting.

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Like if Alex could string two sentences together on a page,

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he could have written that off.

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Absolutely.

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Decrying the scourge of cancel culture.

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But because he's too lazy to read past a headline,

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he's using it as a prop to build up a case

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that he's under attack.

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It's just pathetic stuff.

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Like this is, I don't know.

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Like it's at times like this

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when like there's a lot going on in Alex's world.

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Lots of moving parts.

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Man.

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Lots of things going around that appear to be big stories

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and then you're looking at his show

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and it's like you didn't even read this article

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you're complaining about.

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I mean, especially since this one

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is just such a huge win for Alex.

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Alex could be like even the New York Times

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understands that people like Alex Jones

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should be listened to.

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I bet that will be eventually.

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Yeah, probably.

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I mean, yeah, that one really pissed me off.

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I'm really, really mad at that one.

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Understandable.

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I wanted to say mean things.

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So Alex is a guest coming up towards the end of the show

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and I think like in terms of the sort of person

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you would want to come speak on the sort of topics

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that he's covering, I mean, it's just this is a slam dunk.

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We also have an economist and researcher and stock picker

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who's been at the tip of the spear

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exposing the depopulation agenda, watching the markets.

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The stock picker?

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I have Mr. Dow joining us in the third hour

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to talk about Daily Mail articles and others

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released by the government in the UK.

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Hospitals bribed to put patients on path to death

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to kill people.

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Cash incentives for NHS trusts that meets targets

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on Liverpool care pathway.

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That's why they ordered massive amounts of a euthanasia drug

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given in lethal injection in the US

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to be given to hundreds of thousands of old people

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they killed.

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If you give somebody a shot of it that has pneumonia,

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they always die.

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What?

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In just a few hours.

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What fucking magic is that?

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It's for the earth.

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Gotta kill your dog.

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Gotta kill your cat.

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Gotta sterilize your son.

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Got to kill the old people.

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There's not enough resources.

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You will own nothing.

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You will have nothing.

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Starting to figure out where we're going, folks.

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So that headline that Alex is reading from the Daily Mail,

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hospitals bribed to put patients on pathway to death.

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That's not an article about COVID or anything current

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like he's reporting it.

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It's from 2012.

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And the article is more complicated

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than what Alex is presenting.

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This has to do with the NHS having

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targets of between one third and two thirds of the deaths that

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occur in a hospital being on what's known as the Liverpool

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care pathway.

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The LCP is a protocol that is used

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for patients who are at end of life

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and determined to be terminal cases.

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And it's essentially a way that doctors

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attempted to provide hospice type

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care in a hospital setting.

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Once a patient was deemed to be terminal,

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and there was no longer any treatment options,

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they would receive palliative care to relieve pain and such.

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But typically, that patient would end up dying.

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Right.

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This wasn't so much that the hospitals were killing

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these patients as much as it was a case where end of life care

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was being done in a manner that seemed

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a bit detached and bureaucratic.

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The fact that there was a target range of deaths

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that should involve the LCP and the fact that funding

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was attached to being in line with these targets

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that really gave the air of impropriety,

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even though no wrongdoing was necessarily being done.

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Right, it's just people so divorced

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from the on the ground reality of it,

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they're just like looking at numbers.

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So they don't feel, yeah.

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A review found that when implemented well,

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the LCP is a good way to handle end of life care

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at a hospital setting.

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And in fact, it appeared that the existence of the pathway

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made it much more clear to families of patients

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that their loved one was at the end of their life

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and allowed them to act accordingly.

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Sure.

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That said, when it wasn't implemented well,

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it was a sloppy process that could lead

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to some amount of negligence.

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And there were aspects of the pathway that were

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too difficult to formalize.

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Right.

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For instance, diagnosing when someone is at the end of life

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is an imprecise thing.

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So codifying rules of what qualifies

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will be difficult to do broadly.

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Yeah.

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As such, the panel that reviewed the LCP

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advised phasing it out, which the NHS did in 2013.

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Oh, well, they got them.

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Yeah.

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We got them, guys.

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We did it!

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Mission accomplished!

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Alex is covering and sensationalizing

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a decade-old story, which is just tip of the spear stuff.

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It's nonsense.

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Oh, boy.

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The rest of that stuff is just bullshit,

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ranging from transphobia to Alex mischaracterizing articles

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about how owning a pet is bad for the environment,

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mostly because of the dynamics involved in pet food

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production.

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But you can see, again, him returning

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to this drumbeat of the you'll own nothing

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and you'll be happy.

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He said that a bunch of the past, but not as regularly

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as he is now.

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And I suspect that he's seen the success that folks

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like Russell Brand have had with using that as a mantra,

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and Alex wants to signal to those audiences

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and try and say, hey, I'm doing it, too.

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Right, right, right, right.

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See, again, this is also like, what is it?

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Buddhism.

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Like, there's a whole organized school

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of thought around how having stuff is a bad move.

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Wait, wait, isn't Russell Brand a Buddhist?

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I think he is!

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He's fucking idiots.

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That's interesting.

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Of course.

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Anyway, look.

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Detach yourself from the idea of not having things, all right?

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Attach yourself to unattachable attachment things

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that you can't attach yourself to.

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What?

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I've been starting to think that maybe Russell Brand is somebody

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who deserves a little bit of attention.

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Don't be too surprised if we do some episodes about him

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in the future.

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I just wasn't seeing that the guy from one Guy Ritchie movie

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was going to be here.

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You know what's nuts is that he probably

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has a larger audience than Alex at this point.

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Totally.

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And he's still on mainstream platforms.

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He's doing some straight up Alex shit.

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Exact same stuff.

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Not exactly the same.

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Well, not as, no, no.

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There's some nuance to it that I think is important,

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and I will get into that at a later date.

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Yeah.

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But I was taking a shower the other day.

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I was thinking about it.

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It's like, man, he's probably radicalizing a lot of people.

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And I wonder, it could lead to trouble.

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And what if there's another January 6th,

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and it's because Forgetting Sarah Marshall came out?

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Could certainly get me to the Greek or whatever.

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Get him to the Greek.

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That wouldn't have launched his career.

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Well, I mean, when you really think about it,

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we are dealing with a triumvirate

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of Alex Jones, Joe Brogan, and Russell Brand

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as three purveyors.

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Tucker.

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Well, of course, Tucker.

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Make it a square, baby.

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Tucker, but I mean, this is bush league bullshit.

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This is not good.

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It's interesting, too, how they appeal

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to sort of different sectors.

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You have dyed in the wool, right wing types.

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Love the stuff they get from Tucker.

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Right wingers who like to get high,

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like to go to Joe Rogan.

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Well, Stoned could go either way with Rogan or Brand.

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It depends if you're violent or not.

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Yeah, that is the difference, isn't it?

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It really is.

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Oh my god, they're all like a fucking choose your,

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they build a character in a fucking RPG

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where you just adjust the stats a little bit

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and you come out with these two.

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Fuck me.

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God damn.

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All I'm saying is Brand X wasn't really enough

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to merit a cult.

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And I mean, he was doing stuff in the UK before.

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Like obviously, he was already a fan.

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No, he was a very, very famous comedian.

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But not here.

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Nope, not here.

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Nope, he got big here.

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Oh boy.

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Anyway, I've been thinking about him a bit.

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So the New World Order, right?

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We know that the Nazis were trying to make one.

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Right, so is H.G. Wells.

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Right, so we know that there are multiple New World Orders.

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So is Biden.

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News World Order.

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Right.

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New World's Order.

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New World's, yeah.

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So Alex gets into how there's a bunch

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of New World Orders right now.

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What does that even mean?

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You're gonna find out.

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Oh God.

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What does Biden mean when he announces the New World Order?

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Oh, thank you for explaining.

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Well, you got China saying they lead the New World Order.

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Sure, that's one.

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You've got Putin saying he's starting a New World Order.

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That's two.

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You like that one.

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And you've got Biden saying he's got a New World Order.

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That's three.

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Those are the three power blocks.

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What about Trump?

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The Chicoms, the Anglo-American establishment,

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and the Ruskies.

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Then you've got Christendom that's all over the world

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of all groups and peoples.

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The real plan through Christ to unify the world

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and not kill each other,

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whether you believe in Christ or not,

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it's what mainline mass psychologists

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who study mass psychology will tell you

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could actually save the earth.

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Really?

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Really?

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And then you've got Islam that all the permutations show

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will, the way it's being carried out, destroy the planet.

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Wow.

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Then you've got transhumanism that's already decided

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to kill most of the people

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and then have humans become a new species.

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And then you have the Chicoms that want their own

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China-centric race-based fascism they call communism.

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Then you've got the Russians that just want to be left alone

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and have their New Order.

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Really?

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They want to be left alone.

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That's where we are.

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Yeah, that's where we are.

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I think Alex might still be high from that Cali weed.

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Wow.

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This is nonsense.

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That is fucking insane.

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It's meandering, childish bigotry.

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That's just, it's shocking and impressive.

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And it's crazy how all news world order

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don't include South America or Africa whatsoever.

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Not important.

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Not important.

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So here are the teams, according to Alex.

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Yeah, yeah, yeah.

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If you pay a tiny bit of attention,

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you might start to notice that some of these groups

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are characterized as good or bad.

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So on the bad side, you've got China,

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who wants to create a racist, fascist New World Order.

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Right, which is completely different from what he wants.

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Right.

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Then you have the Anglo-American establishment,

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which is just code for the globalist.

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And we know that they work for the literal devil.

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There's Islam, which apparently will lead

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to the destruction of the world.

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Why not?

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And then there's transhumanism,

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who they want to create a whole new sort of human.

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Sure.

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Just right off the top,

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you can tell that this was an improvised list

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that Alex was riffing,

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because transhumanism is not its own thing.

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It's a facet of the globalist's plan.

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According to everything Alex has ever said

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about this topic and globalists,

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transhumanism is an essential element of their whole scheme,

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where they're trying to merge with machines and become God.

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Yeah.

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He talks about it all the time.

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That's their goal.

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It seems strange that he added them in as a distinct group,

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but I think he did that because he realized

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how clearly his Christian identity

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and nationalism was coming through.

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You know, he's like, oh, Christianity good, Islam bad.

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Oh, also transhumanism bad.

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How do we do that?

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He's trying to throw that out

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as a distraction from that clear.

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I mean, but even then, we go right back to Christendom.

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Who's left?

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We've got China?

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No.

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We've got America, globalists.

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We've got Islam?

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No, so who's our

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Bastion of Christendom? Brazil, baby.

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No, I doubt it.

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So on the good side, you have Russia,

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who just wants to be left alone

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and that they're on New World Order.

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Oh, left alone!

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And you have Christendom,

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which apparently is the true plan to unite humanity

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according to unnamed mass psychologists,

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who Alex could definitely name if he wanted to.

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This raises some really troubling questions,

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and I guess the first is what does Alex mean

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by saying Russia wants to be left alone,

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but they also want a New World Order?

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Well, the best way to be left alone is to rule everything.

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Yeah, how does this work, man?

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It's like so far,

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Putin is killing tons of civilians in Ukraine,

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which doesn't seem like it furthers

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the goal of being left alone.

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No, I mean, it does.

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That's the point, that's the problem

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with every single person who's ever thought

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about the idea of an isolated nation

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in the current global structure

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is that if you want to be an isolated nation,

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there can be no other nations.

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So you either have the entire world

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or everyone else is dead.

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That's not a good plan.

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No!

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So also what Alex is suggesting

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with this whole thing about mass psychologists

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saying that Christianity is the plan

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that would unite the world,

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what he's saying is that he wants

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to impose Christian theocracy on the world.

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There you go.

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The tell there from Alex is that he says

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that Christendom is the real plan

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that will unite the world

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whether you believe in Christ or not.

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There you go.

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He doesn't care if you believe in God or Christ or not,

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so long as he's able to assert power over you

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because he does, so long as you have to submit.

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I can't hear things like this

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and not just think that Alex is losing

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even more of his grip.

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And he's being a bit too overt with his desires.

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Like he wants to see a world characterized

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by Christian theocracy

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and he sees Putin as the person

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who's most likely to usher that in,

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which probably explains a fair amount

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of his more recent content.

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I mean, you're just getting it all wrong, okay?

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That's why we can't have Islam

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because they want to impose a religious theocracy on us

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even if you don't believe in that particular religion.

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That's not how Christendom works and it never has.

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Not once, not one time.

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I can point to tons of mainline historians

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who will tell you that nothing good has ever, yeah, no.

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I feel like this even isn't in line with anything

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that Alex has said as big picture stuff

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and like the major players.

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No, not really.

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Like, I guess his conception is that China

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is stopping working with the New World Order or whatever,

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or with the globalists, but Islam is still,

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there's never been a break in terms of that.

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He still thinks that the entirety of Islam

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works for the New World Order and the globalists.

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His conception of the world is so small.

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It's true.

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There's just so little in his world.

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That is true, but I think it also is just made up.

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True, and that's why, I mean, it has to be because-

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He doesn't think about like the global South at all.

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Sure, well, no.

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And that's why they're not a part of it.

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They're just not a part of it.

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Well, I guess he does only in as much

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as he likes Bolsonaro.

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Yeah, he'll be a lieutenant.

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He'll be a Duke under Putin or whatever.

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Alex talks a little bit more about this stuff

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and then he gets like so defensive about how smart he is.

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But China is competing for the transhumanist system as well,

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but they're not following the neo-liberal model

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of feminizing boys, sterilizing boys and girls,

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and destroying basic human civilization.

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The Chicoms and the Russians have broken

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with that arm of the transhumanist system

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that seeks to fully end humanity,

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and they just believe they're gonna merge

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and augment with the technology.

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What?

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So that's the real debate going on around the table.

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That's the real debate.

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If you were at a table with billionaires

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and at the table with Bilderberg group members,

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and if you were having an adult discussion,

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that's what you'd be talking about.

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Those are the type of discussions I've had

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with all sorts of groups.

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Intelligence heads, Bilderberg group members,

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people worth $50 billion, you know,

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science division heads, heads of HARP,

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heads of major programs.

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I'm not trying to brag here, folks.

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I mean, I've been doing this 28 years

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and I really studied this all day.

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So I get to be at the table,

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even though most of the globalists don't like me.

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I get to be at the big boy table.

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Wow.

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Anyone listening to this show actually believes

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that Alex is having adult conversations with anyone

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and the conversations are about this bullshit.

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I can kind of see how his supplements sell so well.

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You're not having an adult conversation with me right now.

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You're having a child like,

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no, no, no, I'm allowed to go wherever.

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I'm so smart.

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I'm the smartest.

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Alex isn't talking to anyone who's not insane themselves.

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And you can tell by the guests that he has on his show.

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They're all lunatics and most of them are lying

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about their credentials.

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Alex had Steve Pacanik on his show for 20 years

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and never seriously asked himself

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if this dude was nuts and a liar.

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If you were actually like a big, serious person,

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you'd never associate with Alex

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because you can easily see the company that he keeps

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and how he behaves.

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He's an untrustworthy idiot who's unpredictable

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and he's surrounded by white supremacists,

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neo-Nazis and parody level con men.

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Yeah.

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I do feel a certain amount of pity

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for anyone who could hear that and take it seriously

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because this is just Alex's child brain lashing out again.

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He knows he doesn't deserve to be taken seriously.

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So he's creating a comical explanation

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for how seriously he's taken by imaginary bigwigs

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that totally exist.

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And they probably hang out with mass psychologists.

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Listen, I know you aren't taking me seriously.

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But these billionaires that you've never heard of.

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Oh boy.

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All of them.

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All of them.

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The most important people.

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The most important.

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I'm guessing that the person who runs harp

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is probably just Nick Begich.

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Sure.

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We could probably pick out who all of those people are.

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Yeah, what's he basing his bullshit off of?

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Yeah.

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What's the one person?

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It's just, this is just an attempt to be seen

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by the audience in a certain way

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because Alex knows that on the merits,

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he doesn't deserve to be treated like that

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or seen that way at all.

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Right.

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At all.

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But.

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But?

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Big news.

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What?

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It's actually not big news.

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How big?

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Alex could join the New World Order if he wanted to.

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Oh.

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Not like you peons, you peasants listening.

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I mean, let him go.

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Do it.

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Do it, man.

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Come on, do it.

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I could join the New World Order.

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Do it.

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Just like that.

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Just fucking do it, man.

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I'd be immune from the laws, immune from the system,

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and protect myself for a short period of time

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from what's coming and lie to myself and say,

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I could go along with the great culling

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and this operation and then my family will be safe.

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You really think you'll be safe joining with this,

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the few thousand of you that are actually in it

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and the millions that serve it

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that think they're gonna get a ticket

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to Valhalla, to Elysium?

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No, it's a fraud, it's a lie.

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The life extension's a lie, all of it's a fraud.

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We are in a countdown to destroying the planet.

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Here's a short compilation of just a few world leaders

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talking about the New World Order and world government

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and what it means.

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Here it is.

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You know, we are at an inflection point,

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I believe, in the world economy.

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Not just the world economy, in the world.

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It occurs every year.

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It occurs every three or four generations.

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As one of the top military people said to me

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in a secure meeting the other day,

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60 million people died between 1900 and 1946.

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And since then, we've established a liberal world order

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and that hadn't happened in a long while.

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A lot of people died, but nowhere near the chaos.

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And now's the time when things are shifting.

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We're gonna, there's gonna be a New World Order out there.

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And we've gotta lead it.

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We've gotta unite the rest of the free world in doing it.

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I wonder if joining the New World Order would make it

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so Alex wouldn't have to come up with embarrassing excuses

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to not have to go to a deposition

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in the case that he's already lost

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about defaming the families of murdered children.

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If so, maybe he should try that

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because I don't know what other option he has left.

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But he's probably run out.

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I think I would love it if all of a sudden

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we came in to work one day and you're like,

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I have got an episode for you.

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Here's your out of context drop.

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I've joined the New World Order.

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And then we go from there.

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That's amazing stuff.

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Sure.

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I would love that.

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Or if Alex just starts wearing black

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and doing the too sweet all the time.

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Oh man, hell yeah.

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Starts being like a faux life.

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He gets the wrong New World Order that he's joined.

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Yes.

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He hangs out with Hulk Hogan, which he might do anyway.

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That is, yeah, well, you know,

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people who say the N word gotta stick together.

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Sure.

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So that clip at the end was Biden's recent comment

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about the New World Order.

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And I don't think that it sounds evil or nefarious at all.

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This is that compilation that Alex mentioned earlier.

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See, I was worried about the compilation part of that.

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So it's supposed to point these evil statements,

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you know, about the horror of the New World Order.

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But so far it sounds like someone describing

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how there's a change in the status quo that's happening

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as it relates to international power balances.

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Right.

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I'm gonna go through each of these clips

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one by one in this compilation.

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And the reason I'm doing this is because

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I need to drive home the point that the entire notion

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of this New World Order stuff being

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some kind of an actual evil conspiracy plot

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isn't based on anything other than manipulative optics.

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That and historical antisemitism,

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going back to things like the protocols,

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but a lot of manipulative optics too.

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So here's the next clip, which is Biden again.

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And this time it's from a 2013 speech he gave

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at the annual conference of the Export-Import Bank.

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The affirmative task we have now

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is to actually create a New World Order.

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Wow, got him.

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It's interesting that Alex chose that clip

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because if you actually listen to Biden's full speech,

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that's not the only time he says New World Order.

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Like for instance, this is just from

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a little bit earlier in the speech.

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I understand better than almost anyone,

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you understand better than anyone,

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the sheer potential this global economy

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affords the United States of America.

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And you are well aware of the challenges as well.

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This is a familiar story.

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In the post-war era, post-World War II era,

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we faced a slightly different set of challenges.

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As the global economy reemerged and the destructions of war,

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we knew that institutions and rules

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were needed to navigate through this New World Order.

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And because our parents and grandparents were wise

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and because they were committed,

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we did what we've always done best.

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We exercised our global leadership.

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Alex didn't use this clip,

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even though it does involve Biden saying New World Order

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because to do so would undercut the point

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that Alex is trying to make.

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To be fully honest,

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I'm sure Alex has never listened to this speech

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and has no idea where the clip is even from.

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Someone just sent him a fear-mongering compilation

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or these pieces to his employees,

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put it together and they played it,

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but the point is the same

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for whoever decided to include this clip.

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It's just ignoring the other one because it doesn't work.

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If all you have is an out-of-context presentation

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to Biden saying that we need to build a New World Order

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that could have come from any period of time

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and your brain can imagine that it's related

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to whatever you want to pretend it's related to,

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that only works out of context.

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Conversely, if you hear the full speech

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and you see that he uses the words New World Order

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to refer to the New World Order

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that appeared in the aftermath of World War II,

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it makes it too clear that the New World Order

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isn't a specific compound noun in this speech.

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It's really just referring

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to the changing set of circumstances on the world stage,

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in this case, in the field of economics

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and international trade

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since he's speaking to the Export-Import Bank.

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The inclusion of this example in the compilation

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is a strong indication

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that this isn't making a sincere point.

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It's just an attempt to use the image

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of people saying New World Order

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and make that into an argument, which it's not.

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Yeah.

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I mean, what exactly are we gonna wind up?

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You know, it's not like we're eventually gonna have

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our politicians all go like,

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so I think now that things are changing,

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we're going to be entering a new wor-

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a novel global structure.

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Yeah. Yeah.

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So the next one is an oldie, but a goodie.

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We have before us the opportunity to forge

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for ourselves and for future generations.

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A New World Order.

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A world where the rule of law,

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not the law of the jungle,

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governs the conduct of nations.

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When we are successful, and we will be,

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we have a real chance at this New World Order,

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an order in which a credible United Nations

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can use its peacekeeping role to fulfill

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the promise and vision of the UN's founders.

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So we talked about this in depth

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during the endgame episodes,

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but this is George H.W. Bush announcing

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the beginning of the first Iraq War.

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While announcing the war, it's no good.

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No good!

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That said, the use of the words New World Order

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in this speech are not nefarious.

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If you read the full speech,

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it's very clear that this is a reference

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to the changing state of affairs

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between the US and the Soviet Union.

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In fact, the line that's right before this

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in that speech, and it's just weirdly

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always cut out of these clips,

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is quote, we have in this past year

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made great progress in sending,

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in ending the long era of conflict and Cold War.

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Long story short, this was at the end

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of the Cold War in 1991,

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and that's what the term New World Order refers to.

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The Old World Order was a state of standoff

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between the two largest superpowers in the world

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who would be too occupied with fighting each other

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to engage with the UN and their larger peacekeeping mission,

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and the UN would be too busy worrying

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about the US and the Soviet Union.

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Yeah.

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You're free to scoff and disagree

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with the idea that the UN and the Gulf War

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were great in terms of peacekeeping, please do,

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but that doesn't change the fact

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that Bush was not talking about a shadowy cabal

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and world government.

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He was talking about a changing status quo

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between the United States and Russia,

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which brought about the New Order of the world.

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Yes.

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That's all that's going on there.

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It was a novel global structure.

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Thing.

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You're not gonna like this next one.

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Oh boy.

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It's a need for New World Order,

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but it has different characteristics

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in different parts of the world.

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This is Kissinger,

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and I'm not gonna spend any time defending him

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or his legacy,

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but this is a strange clip to use in this compilation.

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This is from an interview he did with Charlie Rose in 2007,

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and if you just use a nine-second clip,

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it kind of conveys the message Alex

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is trying to pretend it says,

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but this is misrepresenting the larger context.

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If you just hear this clip,

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it sounds like Kissinger is saying that it

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will have different characteristics

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in different parts of the world,

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and that it is implied to be the New World Order,

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understood to be a one-world government,

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but that's not what he's saying.

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Just prior to this clip,

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Rose is asking him about the Iraq War,

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and if the way it was carried out

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should be understood as revealing

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the limits of American power,

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and if given the considerations

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of so many regions in the world,

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like states in the Middle East,

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the rising power of China,

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was there a need for a New World Order?

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Kissinger was saying yes,

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that there was a change in dynamics

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that was on the horizon,

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but that it would play out differently

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in different parts of the world.

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In terms of things Henry Kissinger has said,

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this is a fairly benign comment.

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Yeah, I mean, you know,

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I hated Henry Kissinger a lot,

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and now they're doing that six-part series

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on Behind the Bastards.

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Holy shit, I didn't even know how much I hated that guy.

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I'm guessing that if you were Alex,

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your doctor would advise you not to listen to that.

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Don't, no, I'm not doing good.

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Stress.

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No, I listen to it in very short bursts.

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Yeah, yeah.

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Not in public.

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Our next clip, we get Bush again.

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Wow, I mean, he's a New World Order classic, you know?

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I think I found one person who used the term more than him

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in this compilation, but he said it a lot.

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Uh-oh.

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A world in which there is the very real prospect

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of a New World Order.

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This was from another speech in 1991,

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a couple months after the other one.

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This speech is mostly about declaring victory

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in Operation Desert Storm,

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and honestly, I don't know why Alex didn't use

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a longer clip from this speech.

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Or possibly, like, there's even more menacing instances

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of Bush saying New World Order in that speech.

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It's hard to listen to an entire speech, Dan.

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Listen to this, wouldn't it be more impactful

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if Alex used this clip instead?

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Let's hear it.

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Even the New World Order cannot guarantee

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an era of perpetual peace,

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but enduring peace must be our mission.

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Personally, I think that sounds more ominous,

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and like the sort of thing Alex could present as a threat.

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Like, yeah, even if you let us have our way,

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there's still gonna be violence and war, ha ha ha.

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Yeah, CIA director becoming president saying that.

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Nope, that's bad, that's bad.

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I'm gonna guess the reason Alex uses the clips he does

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is because he's never actually watched or listened

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to any of the source material.

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He's just using clips that other people have posted online

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and memes and shit.

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Yep.

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So here's the next one.

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All right.

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A New World is emerging.

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It is a New World Order with significantly different

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and radically new challenges.

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So this is a little sliver of a speech

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that former UK Prime Minister Gordon Brown gave

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in front of the Confederation of British Industry Conference,

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their conference.

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It's unclear what year this is from

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because conspiracy sites online claim that it's from 2007,

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but I found a transcript of the speech that he gave

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that year at the CBI, and it doesn't match this one.

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So I have some doubts about that.

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It's actually really frustrating

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because the backdrop behind Brown is definitely from CBI,

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but it's also not the backdrop that matches

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what the conference used in 2007,

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nor any of the years that I can find videos from.

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I've been able to find Brown's speeches

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from other years that he was there,

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and none of them match this other, and it's a real pickle.

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Did you fucking find Brigadoon or something?

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What is happening?

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I looked through all of the videos.

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Don't tell me that you know what the backdrop looks like

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for each of the years.

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Well, maybe not every year, but relevant years.

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No, that's the problem.

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I did also look through all of the videos

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that are posted on C-SPAN that include

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Gordon Brown in the description.

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It's a mess.

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Oh, boy.

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So this does exist.

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There's a two-minute clip that this comes from

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that does exist as a YouTube snippet

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that was posted in 2007, so I can be fairly certain

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that it wasn't said after that.

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Right.

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But beyond that, I don't know what to say here.

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Well, fairly certain, barring space-time manipulation,

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which apparently might be occurring here.

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You never know.

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True.

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That said, Gordon Brown talked about the New World Order

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all the fucking time.

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Yeah.

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He's the guy who was more than Bush.

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He loved...

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If you read any of his speeches,

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he throws that shit around like it's going out of style.

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Here's an excerpt from another one of his speeches from 2007

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so you can see how nefarious and scary this stuff is.

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Quote, our task as government leaders,

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and this is why the theme of the conference is so timely,

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is to engage the citizens of our countries in discussing

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and then implementing with their active imagination

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the new policy program that ensures that the benefits

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of this emerging New World Order can be shared

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not just by some, but by all.

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Terrifying.

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Yeah, that's...

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Ooh, it chills.

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Yeah, man.

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That HW one, that's real scary

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compared to all the rest of these.

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Why?

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So here's Kissinger again.

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Well, we got a new contender.

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His task will be to develop an overall strategy for America

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in this period when really a New World Order

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can be created.

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It's a great opportunity and it's a crisis.

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So this one is him on a show called Squawks on Stocks

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where he's being interviewed on the stock market floor.

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It's like the anniversary of him like going to China,

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I think, or something like that.

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Oh, okay, so when, yeah.

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So there's a reason for him to be there,

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but it's very weird.

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Yeah.

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One thing I want to point out is that

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if you watch this full interview, it's fucking insane.

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The interviewer is discussing the ongoing hostilities

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between Israel and Palestine and she asks

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if it's all going to stop after Obama gets inaugurated

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for his first term.

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She is straight up asking if the fighting in Gaza

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is something that's being orchestrated by Obama

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for political gain.

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And this is on CNBC.

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Wow.

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Obviously, fuck Kissinger,

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but this interviewer is not looking great.

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That is crazy.

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Yeah, I was listening to like, what?

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And the people around like,

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because there's other people standing around

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looking at her.

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Oh, okay, good.

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Somebody reacted, it wasn't just like,

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this is a totally adorable question that we could ask.

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They do let her ask another question,

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but there is a definite look on a couple faces

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that's subtly like, what the hell?

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Excuse me, Mr. Kissinger, real quick.

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Amazing record, by the way.

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Are the Jews orchestrating this

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to elect Barack Obama president?

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Just real quick, off the top of your head.

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It's uncomfortable.

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Yeah.

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So this clip comes after Kissinger has asked

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a strange question about what country's relationship

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with the United States will define Obama's presidency.

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It's such a weird question that I'm just going to play it

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and Kissinger's response,

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so you can sort of get the full context.

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What do you think the most important thing is

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for Barack Obama?

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Obviously, you're here to talk about the anniversary

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for US-China diplomatic relations,

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but if you had to say, this is gonna be the country

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or the conflict or the place

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that will define the Obama administration,

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what would it be?

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Well, the president elect is coming into office

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at the moment when there are upheavals

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in many parts of the world simultaneously.

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India, Pakistan, you have the three-hearted movement,

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so he can't really say that it's one problem,

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that it's the most important one,

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but he can give a new impetus

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to American foreign policy partly because

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the reception of him is so extraordinary around the world.

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I think his task will be to develop

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an overall strategy for America in this period

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when really a new world order can be created.

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It's a great opportunity.

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It isn't just a crisis.

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When you hear the question he's responding to

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in the full answer,

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the context of this comment makes way more sense.

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Depriving out of that context

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is really the only way this works

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as making it seem some kind of ominous, spooky,

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scary comment in this compilation.

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Yeah, it's not like you said,

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if I had that, I could have committed

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a lot more genocide.

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You know what?

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You are Alex Jones-ian in your impression work.

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I'm not doing good work today.

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This has been a bad one for me.

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I've never done a Kissinger before.

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I gave it a shot.

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Listen, try things.

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No one's accusing you of being the man

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of a million voices.

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I am not accused of that by anyone.

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No.

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So this next clip is, I feel like it's warmer.

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It's not good, eventually, once we discuss why,

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but at the surface level, it appears a lot warmer.

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2009 is also the first year of global governance

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with the establishment of the G20

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in the middle of the financial crisis.

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The climate conference in Copenhagen

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is another step towards the global management of our planet.

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So this is a clip from a speech

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that Hermann von Rompi gave after he was elected

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as the first president of the European Council.

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Prior to this point,

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there was a six month rotation of presidents

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where whichever country was president of the EU

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for that six month chunk,

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they also held the ceremonial position

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of president of the council.

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They decided to go a different way with that in 2009.

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So von Rompi got elected.

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Good for von.

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Von Rompi isn't talking about global government per se,

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and he didn't even say new world order in that clip.

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He's talking about international cooperation

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that was prompted by the worldwide economic crash

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of 2007, 2008.

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When he says that the G20 was formed in 2009,

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that's not accurate.

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It was formed in 1999,

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but in 2008, in response to the global financial crisis,

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they decided that they should have annual meetings

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and that they would be the body

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where the primary economic cooperation

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conversations happened.

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Prior to this, that was mostly the role of the G8,

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but in the wake of the financial crisis,

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people recognized that, you know,

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there were other countries.

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Hey, you done fucked up bigger time.

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Yeah, the interconnectedness of world economies

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had more important actors in it than just those eight.

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Yeah.

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The reason that Rompi says that this is the first year

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of global governance is because the EU

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isn't a member of the G8.

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Individual EU states are members,

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but the body itself is not.

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Conversely, the EU is a member of the G20.

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What Rompi is saying is not that this is the first year

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of global governance, it's that the forum

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where international economic cooperation conversations

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happen is now the body that the EU,

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which he was just elected president of, is included in.

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This one, it sounds the closest to making Alex's point,

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but if you know a little bit about the situation

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and the context of what Rompi is saying,

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this clip doesn't say what Alex is presenting

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into saying it at all.

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It's not talking about a new global government.

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You know what, I'm gonna say this right now,

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and I've got strong opinions about it.

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I think that maybe short compilation videos

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aren't how you should learn about history.

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No, but good for slam dunks.

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Yes, that's true.

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Amazing for slam dunks.

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Yes.

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Alex Chapman.

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Don't bring him up.

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Oh, I know.

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I feel like he's a better dunker than a tweeter.

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He was.

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I would say, I don't know how his dunks are now.

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So disappointing.

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Yeah, so we have one last clip

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that's within this compilation,

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and then Alex comes in with sort of a coda.

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Are you optimistic a global system can happen

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from what we've heard so far?

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It could happen, and in fact, it's in the works.

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And they use that plan to create crises,

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to consolidate control, to bankrupt you,

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to make you poor in steps

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until you can be starved to death and killed.

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Sure.

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You will own nothing, you will have nothing.

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You will like it because you will be dead.

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So we have Soros on some interview show

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saying that a global system is in the works

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with absolutely no context about what's being discussed.

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I think at this point,

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you can see the game that's being played here

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and how all of these clips are meant to come at you fast

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and without any surrounding context.

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If you're overwhelmed by what appears

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to be a ton of powerful people saying

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that there's a new world order afoot,

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and then Alex comes back in the studio

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and says that this is their plan to kill you,

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you might just accept him at his word.

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However, if you, like conspiracy theorists love to say,

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do your research and take a little bit of time

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to ask the question of where these clips came from

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and what's the context,

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you'll easily see that the conclusion Alex tacks on there

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at the end about this being a plan to kill you is laughable.

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This compilation doesn't establish

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or build to this conclusion at all,

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it's just smoke and mirrors

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because that's all this shit is.

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And where was Klaus Schwab?

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He wasn't in there at all.

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No.

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And again, you can see the drumbeat of

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you will own nothing and you'll be happy,

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that mantra, you can see it.

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It's just simple anchoring.

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So annoying.

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Repeating this phrase like he does

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is meant to lodge it in the audience's mind

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and connect it to other ideas

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like they want to kill you.

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Yep.

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That's just subconscious manipulation that he's doing.

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Yup, yup.

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Real, real bad.

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It is, it is, yeah.

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I really, really despise those types of slogans.

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Cause you know that they're just like,

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they're what you hear before the boot stomps on your face.

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Like that kind of shit.

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Like they're taking everything away from us

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as right before they shoot you.

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It is like, before I die, I have to say,

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wait one second, you realize the, and then I'm dead.

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The problem with it too is that like,

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obviously it did come from a World Economic Forum video

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that they put out.

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Like it is a caption that's on there.

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Sure.

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So it's their fault that they did this.

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Yeah, well of course.

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But the actual context of it

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is being abused and misrepresented.

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And I just hate, I mean,

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obviously you can't always be playing defense

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like against what conspiracy theorists

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are gonna use your content for.

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But something like that, I feel like maybe.

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Saying New World Order is an own goal, okay?

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You don't always have to be playing defense,

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but don't kick the ball into your own fucking goal.

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I kind of disagree because like,

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as evidenced by you trying to come up with words

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that would replace it.

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Novel global structure, I think that works.

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I'm gonna use that one from now on.

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That's not as bad as it could be.

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It could be worse.

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New World Order does sound better.

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It does, it's got a ring to it,

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but that's only because we've seen it

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in so many conspiracy videos and movies

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and all that shit before.

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And because of Scott Hall, rest in peace.

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It's a repeated, it's repeated in our,

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it's just like where we, where they take all your stuff

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and you'll have nothing and they'll like it.

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That's the, that's the phrase they say.

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You talking about the devil?

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Yeah.

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Okay, so here's just some random rambling.

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Let me tell you, when I go to a liberal area of Austin

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or LA or San Francisco or Seattle or New York,

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I don't drive by and look at the ghostly looking people,

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the ghoulish eyes, how unalive they are,

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how stupid they are, how weak they are,

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how scared they are and feel powerful myself.

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It makes me feel weak to see my fellow humans

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in that condition.

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But for the globalists, when they see the homeless shelters

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and the needles and the trendies offering their children up

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to pedophile story time, they feel powerful.

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They've broken your life force and broken your will.

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But by just opening up to God and saying,

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save me, help me, take me to the infinite.

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I wanna be good and strong.

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I believe in goodness.

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He will begin to elevate your spirit.

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Literally electrochemically,

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it will manifest into a higher vibration.

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That's not new age.

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That's not, that's science folks.

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What?

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That's science.

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So this is something that can be replicated

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in repeated studies.

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If I understand correctly,

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science says that if you drop down on your knees

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and accept Jesus Christ into your heart,

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then you will of course begin to accelerate

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to a higher plane on a different vibration.

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Science says that.

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Science.

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It's science, Dan.

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Yep.

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Vibration.

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It's not new age.

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These are the conversations that they're having

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at the big boy table.

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Billionaires everywhere.

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This is an adult conversation.

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Cool.

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Uh-huh.

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So we get to the bug eating.

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Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha.

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I do so love when we bookend something to the point

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where I've completely forgotten about it

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by the end of the show.

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It's half the goal.

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Half the fun.

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You love it.

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You fucking love it.

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You're the good guys.

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But they know that we manifest what we believe in.

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So they tell us you own nothing.

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You have nothing.

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You're a failure.

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You're ugly.

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You're gonna eat bugs and you get used to that.

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Your mind starts becoming comfortable with it

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instead of I will not eat your bugs

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and I will have children and we will colonize space

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and we will transcend your new world order.

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What?

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And God is real and you are not God

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and we are not under your control.

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We're under God's control

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and we choose liberty and justice and freedom.

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Incredible.

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I want to break.

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I want to encourage listeners to understand

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that the heat of the battle for Infowars is here.

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Plus we have great products.

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If you're ever gonna buy a book, a film, a t-shirts,

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now's the time.

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We're selling out of t-shirts,

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even at below cost some of them,

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at 75% off because we got to get all the funds in.

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We can right now with some underages we have.

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So 25 to 75% off on things like Vaso beats

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that are back in stock.

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Yeesh.

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You know who else said that you'll have nothing

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and you'll be happy about it?

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Uh huh.

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The free condo.

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Oh, is that right?

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I would say that if this is accurate at all,

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what Alex is talking about,

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things are looking real bad.

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Things are real bad.

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Yeah.

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If he's selling out things at prices that are under cost

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because he can't make operating expenses,

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the goose is basically cooked.

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I guess he could sell out all his shit

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and then maybe it puts a bandaid on things for a bit,

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but this problem isn't gonna go away

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because ultimately this propaganda platform

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is a model that's doomed to fail.

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Actually, Alex's propaganda platform is a great example

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of how sometimes growth can be bad.

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If he'd stayed humble and kept things in the mid range,

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like where he was in 2008 or 2012,

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yelling about how Ron Paul should have won the primary

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and showing up at places with a bullhorn

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every once in a while,

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he could have been comfortable to rich,

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probably for the rest of his life,

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and he would have been able to continue to pretend

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to fight an info war against imaginary enemies.

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The growth is what's killing Alex.

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It's the overhead and the expenses

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and the worthless employees on his payroll.

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A propagandist doesn't need that kind of hassles.

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A propagandist is born to run free,

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bullhorn in hand, making up shit about books he's never read.

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This, a man selling his wares at a loss

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just so he can afford to pay a dork like Harrison Smith

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to host a pointless show to pad out

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the content he's putting out, that's a debasement.

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That is no good.

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This is not how God intended a propagandist to live.

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Nope.

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Also, something in that clip stuck out to me

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where Alex said, we're not under your control,

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we're under God's control,

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and we choose liberty and justice and freedom.

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That thought is completely nonsensical.

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How does one choose freedom

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if they're under a deity's control?

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If you're under someone's control,

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that means you don't have free will

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and thus you can't choose anything,

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let alone choosing to be free, which is a confounding idea.

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But of course, Alex believes that God

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is a free will kind of God,

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so maybe being under his control is to have free will.

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But in that case, what does it even mean to have free will?

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Pretty much nothing.

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That would tend to imply that people

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who aren't under God's control don't have free will,

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but then how can they possibly be condemned

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for the fact that they're not under God's control?

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They can't choose to be under God's control.

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They have no free will.

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Ugh, I just don't think you understand, okay, Dan?

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When God created the universe,

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he also created the end of the universe simultaneously.

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He knows everything that begins and ends.

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He knows everything that will happen,

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and that means that you have the ability

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to choose what's going to happen, right?

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Can I actually tell you,

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I read this really great book

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about free will and determinism recently.

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It was called Knowing, starring Nicholas H.

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Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha

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which I have some continuity.

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So Alex gets a little bit worked up

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because he thinks that the globalists

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want you to kill your pets.

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Oh no!

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That's the first time that I've believed the globalists!

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Or maybe I've just been wrong.

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Maybe I should submit,

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and maybe we should all go out today with hatchets

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and kill our dogs in the backyards and our cats.

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Where's dogs?

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Because it's to save the earth, right?

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We're supposed to give up everything we've got

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because we're bad.

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We're guilty because we have dogs and cats.

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We're guilty because we have children.

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We're evil, but none of that's even true!

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It's all a greedy group of monsters

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that want you to learn to hate yourself

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so you roll over into the ditch of history

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so they can steal the future.

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They're projecting their globalist hatred of themselves

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onto you and I.

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All the beautiful, nice things they have

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and the science they have came from the commoners,

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came from the people.

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We built all this.

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And now they've got their robots coming online

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and they say they don't need us anymore

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and we're supposed to just hate ourselves

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and go commit collective suicide.

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Well, guess what?

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It's not gonna happen.

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Okay.

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Or maybe it should happen.

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Maybe.

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Maybe I'm wrong.

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Maybe I am the bad guy, like the media says.

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Maybe because I don't want to kill my new puppy.

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I'm the bad guy.

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Maybe I should kill the puppy.

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I want to apologize to the United Nations.

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I want to apologize to the World Economic Forum.

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What the fuck just happened?

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The World Economic Forum.

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I want to apologize to Bloomberg,

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the owner, the billionaire owner of Bloomberg,

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and the publication, and the BBC,

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and all the other groups that came out yesterday and said,

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we should kill our dogs and cats to save the earth

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and to cut our carbon footprint

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and to stop Vladimir Putin.

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They actually said that.

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And I came out against that and was wrong.

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I have never seen this level of preparation

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on Alex's show.

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The idea that he's in the middle

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of what appears to be a rant about something

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and then it throws to a video about the same subject

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that he did in advance, like he prepared this,

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that's, I mean, it's really a low bar,

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but it's impressive for him.

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I thought, here's what I thought.

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You almost fell out of your chair.

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100% thought it was a complete accident.

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Somebody had accidentally overlaid the broadcast

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with an old video or something,

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or maybe they had hit the,

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they'd run out of the five-second delay

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after he started talking about killing pets

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and then it got real weird and they just cut away?

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No, this was on purpose?

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Wow.

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Impressive.

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28 years into his career, he's figured this out.

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Not once did that thought occur to me independently.

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Well, and I'm not positive about this

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because I've listened to so much of his show,

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but I don't think I've ever seen anything that coherent.

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Yeah.

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Like, in terms of a pre-recorded piece,

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maybe once, I'd afford possibly once.

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You know, it is good to show some real growth.

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At the end of your career,

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it's a good time to really still show

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that you can learn new tricks.

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This would be like,

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if you saw this on a local access thing,

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you'd be like, well, all right.

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See?

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But that was what he was doing 28 years ago.

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Right.

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Yeah.

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So that's a bizarre clip there,

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beyond just these reasons.

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Yeah, oh yeah.

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There's two features that look really bad

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when there's further context than you understand, Alex.

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Just off the top though,

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Bloomberg and all these papers

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didn't say that you should kill your pets.

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There was an op-ed in Bloomberg

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that was a bit tone-deaf, perhaps,

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but it was just about ways

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that people could deal with inflation.

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It wasn't even about like it's bad for the earth or anything

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although that is a topic that has been written about

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in the past, like going back a ways,

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the carbon footprint of pet ownership.

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Yeah, yeah, yeah.

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So one of the main problems

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about this Bloomberg thing though,

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is that it was addressed to people

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who make less than $300,000 a year.

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So just from that premise,

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it's gonna piss some people off

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and they did get dunked on.

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I am shocked that people would hear from Bloomberg.com,

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you know, things that maybe are tone-deaf towards the poor.

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So in the tweet,

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it said that you should replace meat with lentils,

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but the article actually just said you could,

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it suggested meat substitutes,

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like vegetables, lentils, or beans.

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So you can see that there's just like essential detail

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that's missing from the tweet, which is natural.

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So another suggestion that's in the article is to quote,

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rethink those costly pet medical needs.

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This wasn't saying that you should kill your pet

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or that you shouldn't take your pet to the vet,

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but that some expenses related to pets

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might not be good expenses.

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The next line in the article is quote,

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it may sound harsh,

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but researchers actually don't recommend pet chemotherapy,

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which can cost up to $10,000 for ethical reasons.

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Even though this article sucks

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and it was rightly conned on by Twitter,

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it's really obvious that Alex is creating a fake version

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of it to get mad at,

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saying that they're telling you to kill your pets.

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Now, the two things that are problematic

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about this clip are one,

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Alex is supposed to be in the grips

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of some really serious emergency situation with his health

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and he has to avoid any stress,

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but here he is on air getting himself worked up,

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whether genuinely or as a performance,

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which would be pretty bad for his blood pressure.

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He should probably calm down.

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Yeah, and two, Alex has a rich history

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about talking about killing dogs.

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Yeah.

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On way more than one occasion in the past,

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he's gone on and on about how he's killed dogs.

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So I don't know, he's actually the best messenger

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for this right wing fake outrage about this article.

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I think it kind of makes his supposed comedy piece,

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he cuts there at the end, a little bit less impactful.

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Yeah.

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The satire of that piece is supposed to be

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that it's outlandish to imagine Alex killing his pet,

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but it's not.

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Nope.

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He's talked about doing that very thing

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a bunch in the past.

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Yep.

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I don't know, it doesn't, it hits differently,

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as the kids say.

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I mean, it is kind of like him being like,

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what kind of psychopath would talk about killing their dog?

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Cut to.

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Yeah, exactly, it's like, what are we doing, man?

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I had to stomp on this dog's head.

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I've never thought about things for more than a second.

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Yeah, it's a total mess.

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Insane.

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So, look, the second hour, there's a lot of time spent

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with Alex interviewing his former employee,

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Savannah Hernandez, here's what happened.

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She got kicked off Twitter after posting some videos

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of her interviewing people about how unfair it is

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that Lea Thomas is allowed to compete in women's swimming.

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Oh, she was doing some transphobia.

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Yes.

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Gotcha.

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But, as it turns out, she wasn't actually kicked off

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for the video, she was kicked off for creating

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a new account to evade a previous ban,

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and the way that her new video went viral

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in the right-wing media, it brought her ban evasion

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to Twitter's attention, so her new account got banned.

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Okay.

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She was originally kicked off in 2020

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for election-related misinformation.

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Sure.

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Anyway, she's gone on to become a personality

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and a producer at The Blaze,

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which is probably really smart for her career.

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It's still a dead end, but at the very least,

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Glenn Beck isn't selling products at below cost

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in order to squeeze out a couple more months on air.

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Yeah.

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I'm not gonna cover her interview,

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because honestly, I don't care.

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I'm just gonna play this one clip,

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because I think it really illustrates

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how little Alex does.

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Like, he doesn't even know what he's talking about.

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Savannah Hernandez will be joining us

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at the bottom of the hour to break down

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some really huge news.

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One of the swimmers that filed a complaint

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that she didn't like a man,

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literally a foot plus taller than the other women,

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being able to take over and win,

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well, she's been suspended off Twitter,

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and Savannah got an interview before that even happened

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whether that got her, I guess, suspended,

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or speaking out got her suspended.

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What a world, man.

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So he's got multiple aspects of this story wrong.

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The first is that the interview Savannah did

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was not with someone who filed the complaint.

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It was just a person who had

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some slightly critical comments about Thomas,

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and her complaint seemed to be about

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how her friend didn't make finals,

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and I guess that she would have

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if Thomas hadn't been swimming.

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Right.

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I don't recommend pursuing this line of thinking

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to its logical conclusion,

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because it doesn't go anywhere good.

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The second thing that Alex has wrong here

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is that the person Savannah was interviewing

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didn't get kicked off Twitter.

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Savannah did.

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This is the entire reason this is a story

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and why Alex would be having Savannah on.

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She's doing a right-wing media blitz

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to strike while the iron's hot,

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and her victimhood argument is fresh in people's minds.

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It's obviously bizarre that Alex

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doesn't even seem to understand

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the premise of the interview he's agreed to do on his show.

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He has literally no preparation for this at all.

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Anyway, like I said and you said,

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this interview is just transphobia.

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That's pure, that's all that's going on here.

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It's basically concern trolling, too,

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where these folks attempt to mask

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their underlying intense bigotry

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behind a pretend sincere concern about women's swimming.

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Yeah.

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Get the fuck out of here.

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I mean, it's so fucking bullshit.

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How dare you?

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How fucking, I mean, and not just that,

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but simply because Bill Burr made the transphobic joke

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that everybody's been dining out on on the far right

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like 10 years ago in one of his specials,

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and it was done in a completely different context

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to make it look like he's the idiot

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for having this kind of thought process whatsoever.

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But fuck it.

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They're just gonna do the same fucking bullshit

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because it doesn't matter.

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It doesn't matter what it is.

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If it's not sports, they shouldn't be in the bathrooms.

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If it's not the bathrooms,

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it's they shouldn't be in the same restaurants.

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It doesn't fucking matter.

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Right.

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It's just that they exist.

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I agree.

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It's infuriating.

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Yep, it sucks.

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So if you're somebody who's had his lawyer contact a court

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and say that you have a serious emergency medical condition,

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I would say you probably wouldn't wanna then go to work

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and do a ridiculous pageant of a show the next day, right?

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Maybe.

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And definitely if you did do that,

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you probably wouldn't wanna say on air

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that you're gonna come back

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and do another show that evening.

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Yes, that would be bad.

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This is definitely real.

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This is all out in the open.

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The New World Order's out in the open.

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We're gonna have a special live Infowars broadcast tonight

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from at least seven to nine,

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commercial free to take phone calls

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on The Great Reset, on The New World Order.

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I don't know what you think we should do as callers

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to stop this.

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It'll be infowars.com streams.

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I don't know if he actually ended up

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following through with that,

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but I would just not have done that probably.

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Yeah, I mean, if the next clip is him saying like,

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never felt better in my life, this is as good as it gets

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for me, I feel like I've lost like five pounds

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in the past couple of days.

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Like, what are we talking about?

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I was kind of hoping that there would be some clip

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of him trying to sell his supplements a bit like,

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I feel like-

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Look at how great I feel

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because I took this one supplement.

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Yeah, of course.

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I thought that would be ironic.

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That would be great.

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So we have one last clip

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and it's because Alex, for the third hour,

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does interview that economist stock picker guy.

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Sure.

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And I just, he sucks, I don't even care.

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Here's just a clip of Alex getting into the interview.

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They're publicly announcing the NIH,

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what we already knew, but now admitted,

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paid to have them give people these assisted suicide drugs

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that they bought a bunch of

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right before the pandemic record levels.

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And we know the same thing here, give them morphine,

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don't give them treatment, watch them die.

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But to read this, here's the headline,

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hospitals bribe to put patients on pathway to death

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cash incentives by the National Health Service Trust

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that meet targets on Liverpool Care Pathway.

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The third hour is him doing this interview

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with the stock trader, Edward Dowd,

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who seems completely insane.

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He's on to talk about how the government's killing everyone

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with COVID vaccines and what have you.

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Sure.

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Alex's central piece of evidence in covering this story

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seems to be this article about the Liverpool Care Pathway,

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which Alex is pretending is a current story

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and has to do with the pandemic.

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He obviously forgot to check the date

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on the article he's reading.

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He didn't look into this at all,

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so he has no idea it's a decade old story

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and that the LCP was phased out in 2013.

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I don't know how else to put this, this shit's embarrassing.

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If Alex cared at all about the quality

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of the work he's doing, realizing that he fucked this up

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that bad should be a huge issue for him.

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He should do a big segment on the next episode

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about how important it is to check dates on stories

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and how he had it wrong

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and that they weren't giving people assisted suicide drugs.

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But Alex doesn't have to do any of that.

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His audience accepts whatever trash he gives them.

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There's no incentive to do better than trash.

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And that's what this is.

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Yep.

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Absolute trash.

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Absolute trash.

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This show is, at the present day,

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more or less a combination of extreme bigotry

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and incompetently delivered false news stories.

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I think I say this a bit, but it bears repeating.

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There's no value in the existence of Info Wars

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as a piece of the information landscape.

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It's full on completely negative

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in terms of what it brings to society.

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And like, you know, you think about just sort of like

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the position that I came from early on doing the show.

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Well, I think that I had a position that was far more like

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there's a place for something like Alex in the world.

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Yep.

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And I still kind of believe that that's true.

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There's a place for skeptical voice,

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but that's not what this is.

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There's a world where an Alex Jones performance

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is appreciated because it is not having any effect

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on people's actual lives.

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Well, I-

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We're in the unfortunate world

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where the performance is very much hurtful.

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I would take issue with how you phrased that.

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I disagree slightly.

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Cause I don't think that even in a different

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organized world, this has value.

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Oh no, no, absolutely not this.

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I think that there is a model of somebody

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who can be generally wrong, but asking pointed questions

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that does have a societal value.

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Right.

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And that's the position that I kind of felt like

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this is the idea of Alex and it's not.

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Well, what he should be- This is trash.

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Is the buffoon.

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The buffoon, the architect, that thing.

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The jester.

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No, no, no.

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Just that fucking idiot who sometimes says something

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and you're like, oh, instead of being the idiot

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who says nonstop bigot stuff.

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And well, yeah, what if the buffoon is a hateful bigot

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and then also says that they're right all the time

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and tries to sell you shit.

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There's no place in the world for that.

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Not even in the media landscape.

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I mean, just in the world.

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I think what I'm trying to get at,

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what I'm trying to stress is that there may have been

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a time when listening to Alex Jones

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could give you maybe.01 value.

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Info.

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Yes.

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.01 info units.

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Compared to reading a news story,

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which might be like one info unit.

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Right, right, right, right, yeah.

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I like the system we're developing.

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You get trace amounts of info units.

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We've developed the metric system for media.

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Now it might be in the negatives.

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It is negative 10 info units.

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You lose information.

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You die slower or faster, yeah.

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It's, oh man.

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Anyway, I'm interested to see

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where his health situation goes.

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I'm interested to see some of these other court cases,

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what develops with them

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and whether he's back in studio on Friday.

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We'll see.

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Yeah.

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Any outcome is possible.

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It'd be so funny if he shows up in studio on Friday.

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Of course he is.

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On a treadmill.

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He's gotta show,

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I think it'd be better if he shows up at a stretcher.

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Wheel him in, have him late,

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do the whole show laying down.

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Oh, that's the way you do it.

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One way or another, I demand pageantry.

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Absolutely.

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And we will not get it,

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but we'll be back on Monday.

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Yes, we will.

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And until then, Jordan, we have a website.

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We do, it's knowledgefight.com.

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Yep, we're also on Twitter.

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We are on Twitter.

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It's at knowledge underscore fight and at go to bed Jordan.

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Yep.

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Oh, shit.

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I feel like I can't say Dr. Marbles anymore

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since Dr. Marbles is now- Oh, yeah.

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I thought he was gonna be someone who showed up

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and then disappeared.

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Yeah.

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It'd just be a funny name.

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Nope.

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Now he's a international man of peace.

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Oh, well, back to the oldie but a goodie.

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We'll be back.

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But until then, I'm Neo.

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I'm Leo.

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I'm D-Z-X Clark.

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I'm Daryl Rundis.

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And now here comes the sex robot.

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Andy in Kansas, you're on the air.

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Thanks for holding.

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Hello, Alex.

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I'm a first time caller.

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I'm a huge fan.

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I love your work.

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I love you.