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N-N-N-N-N-N-N-Knowledge Fight
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Dan and Jordan, I am sweating.
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Knowledgefight.com, it's time to pray.
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I have great respect for knowledgefight, knowledgefight.
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I'm sick of them posing as if they're the good guys saying we are the bad guys, knowledgefight.
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Dan and Jordan, knowledgefight.com, it's time to pray.
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Hey everybody, welcome back to knowledgefight, I'm Dan, I'm Jordan, we're a couple dudes,
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like to sit around, worship at the altar of Selene and talk a little bit about Alex Jones.
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Oh indeed we are, Dan, Jordan, Dan, Jordan, I have a quick question for you.
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Sure.
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What's your bright spot today?
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My bright spot today is possibly something uncharacteristic, maybe people wouldn't think
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this of me because I don't like violent video games generally, I like things like Donkey
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Kong Country maybe, soothing, games where the violence is you jump on something, you
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jump on a Goomba or a Koopa Troopa, yeah it's almost theoretical violence, cartoony stuff.
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But I just saw that Grand Theft Auto 3, Vice City, and San Andreas were released on the
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Switch and I'm over the moon.
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Over the moon!
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Yeah yeah, I played the shit out of those when I was younger, like 17 onward or whatever,
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and there's just something about it, I don't really like the violence aspect of it, and
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I kind of try and play that down as much as I can, don't commit unnecessary violence.
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But they're such a great open world but not too big kind of vibe, I like people telling
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me what to do, like going on missions and stuff, it's fun, it's fun.
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Yeah I remember playing those games and being like, well I've seen my friends play this
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and they just commit violence all the time, I am going to walk to my next mission like
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a gentleman, you know, like that whole thing.
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I'm not going to steal anybody's car.
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Yeah that would be rude!
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I think also, I've started on 3, and I think that there are some criticisms that people
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have that some of the aesthetic of the original version on the PS2 are gone, and I kind of
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do agree with that, like it's stylistically a little bit different visually, but I don't
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mind.
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I actually don't mind that too much, but yeah, just get a thrill out of finding a hidden
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package.
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It's just great, you're running around like, why am I on this rooftop, oh ha ha, that's
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why!
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Anyway, what about you?
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Dan, my bright spot is a little bit of a twilight spot, I'll tell you it begins with breaking
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a commandment.
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First Dan, since you've gotten this desk, I have coveted, I have coveted, I've cut the
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shit out of this desk.
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But see, I told you it was a nice desk.
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It's a nice desk, so I was like, I'm not proud of this, but I had to get myself a new desk.
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I had to, I didn't want to, I just couldn't look at my old desk anymore.
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I understand.
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And so I got it, and as you know about how I buy things, I found my price range, got
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a deal, and then just ordered it with no real consideration.
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No, no, it's probably the first thing, check it off, like I don't care, whatever.
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So it's huge, it's way bigger than I thought it was, incredibly complicated, it took me
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two full days to put together, I was so proud of myself, I completed it, and then the next
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morning I opened the drawer and the whole thing, the whole drawer fell apart.
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As if it was just like a cartoon.
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Yes, like an absolute cartoon.
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So my bright spot was successfully putting that thing together.
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That does feel good.
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It felt great.
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Yeah.
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And my dark spot is that it has already fallen apart.
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But you only have another bright spot, and I was able to put it together again.
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You're right.
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So congratulations.
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I'm excited.
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Double bright spot.
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Yeah.
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So Jordan, today we are going to be going over a modern day episode.
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We're going to be talking about November 16th, 2021 Blackjack.
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I was trying to false start it.
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Too soon, kid.
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I was trying to false start it.
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Too early, kid?
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I can't remember what the real Fast and Furious line is and what the wrong one is that I've
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taught myself is the right one.
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At the very beginning, whenever he hits the NOS too soon.
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Too early, too soon, who cares?
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Doesn't matter.
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Anyway, we're going to be talking about that, it's fucked up.
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Yeah, that sounds about right.
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It's a mess.
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Yeah.
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And also, Alex premieres a bit of his interview with General Flynn.
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General Mike Flynn.
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Gotcha.
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And so we'll be taking a brief detour to go over that interview.
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Excellent.
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And I'm excited to get down to business on that, but first, Jordan, let's take a little
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moment to say thank you and hello to some new wonks.
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Oh, that's a great idea.
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So first, Jane, thank you so much.
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You are now a policy wonk.
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I'm a policy wonk.
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Thank you, Jane.
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Thank you.
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Next, Gregory, thank you so much.
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You are now a policy wonk.
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I'm a policy wonk.
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Thanks, Greg.
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Thank you.
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Next, Jess, thank you so much.
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You are now a policy wonk.
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I'm a policy wonk.
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Yes.
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Thank you.
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Next, Drew, thank you so much.
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You are now a policy wonk.
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I'm a policy wonk.
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Thank you, Drew.
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And Randy and Candy from Arkansas, thank you so much.
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You are now both policy wonks.
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I'm a policy wonk.
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Thank you very much, Randy and Candy.
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Thank you.
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So, Jordan, like I said, this episode's pretty fucked up.
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I don't like some of the content that we're going to end up talking about.
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Yeah, well, the world.
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I don't like some of the world's content that's been going on.
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Yeah, this is a little different, though.
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Oh, no.
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This is the same kind of fucked up.
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It's just, eh.
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Sure.
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Anyway, here's not a context drop from today's show.
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I'm the devil.
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I'm going to be taking off the hair, up in all this blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah,
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blah, blah, blah, blah.
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All right.
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Okay.
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Yep.
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So we're going to start here, actually, not on the episode, but we're going to start with
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a little video that Alex put out where he is really embodying his current spirit and
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his current vibe.
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This is a little video that he put out on Band.video.
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Save Info Wars Defense Fund.
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Save Info Wars Defense Fund.
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You can find the link at saveinfowars.com.
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I wrote it on this folder right here.
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Look, I'm up against the Democratic Party.
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Real quick, I just got to pause it.
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Did he think he was going to forget saveinfowars.com?
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I guess.
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He's got to write it on the folder?
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That's the only explanation.
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I made a note.
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It's the only thing, but it's a whole thing.
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Yeah.
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... against people that bankrupt at Remington.
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They want to take us off air.
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And so we've got to fight this in court.
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We've got to go to the jury trials, even though I've already been found guilty by default.
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Now they're going to try to tell the jury how guilty I am.
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So guilty?
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It's going to take a lot of money to fight this and a lot of money for the appeals.
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And so I can't spend the money we have paying our crew and running our independent media
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outlet that reaches millions of people without your support.
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Info Wars is doing its most important work ever right now.
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So this is a no brainer.
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Please go to saveinfowars.com.
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Make a $10 donation, a $1,000 donation.
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Wealthy people out there, your free speech is being destroyed.
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Info Wars is just the first domino to fall.
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And if wealthy folks don't start spending their money promoting liberty, promoting freedom,
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we're going to lose this country and we're going to lose the world to tyranny.
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So please go to saveinfowars.com.
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It's give, send, go.
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They're great folks.
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They're patriots.
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We're banned everywhere else.
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We're able to raise money and this will help keep us in the fight for the next few years.
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So I've never issued an alert this serious.
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I need your help right now.
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Stand up for yourself.
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Stand up for your rights.
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Stand up for free speech.
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Stand up for America and don't let these bullies intimidate anybody.
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Please donate right now at saveinfowars.com.
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Hey, rich people, cough, cough, Elon Musk, Joe Rogan.
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Amazing.
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I love it.
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I love a good appeal to rich people's sense of dignity and their love of the first amendment.
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Rich people love the first amendment so goddamn much.
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Yeah.
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So this is what Alex does.
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He has absolutely no standards and doesn't give a fuck about how his actions and words
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affect other people.
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So he ends up acting like a total dick and then every now and then he gets himself into
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trouble.
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He milks that trouble for all the free press that he can get out of it, presenting himself
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as a persecuted victim the whole time.
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If he's allowed to, he ends up settling and he makes quiet apologies to get himself off
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the hook like he did with James Oliphantus and Hamdi Ulukaya.
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When that's not an option or, you know, someone important to Info Wars ends up owing a lot
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of money, you better believe that an emergency money bomb is coming right around the corner.
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Oh yeah.
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We called that pretty, uh, it was not a, not a, uh, ambitious prediction.
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No, it's not.
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It's pretty obvious.
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Anyway, it did not require any psychic powers.
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No.
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Merely deduction.
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Yes.
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This doesn't have anything to do with Alex being able to afford appeals or fight the
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good fight to clear his name and defend the first amendment or whatever bullshit he thinks
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he's doing.
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This is trying to trick the audience into paying what he's going to end up being ordered
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to pay for losing these suits.
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This is basically the equivalent of being a teen and like begging your parents to give
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you money to pay off a speeding ticket you got when you were joyriding.
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Alex wants someone else to face the consequences for him so he can continue his flagrantly
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irresponsible bullshit that'll end up leading to more consequences that the audience will
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have to bail him out of then.
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Yeah.
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It's honestly very sad and childish and I hope the audience doesn't fall for it again.
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But I think they might not.
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I think they might not be totally convinced.
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You think so?
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I went to the give send go page.
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How's it going?
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He's trying to raise two million dollars.
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And we've give-sended him?
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Eight percent of it.
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Ooh.
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And it's been up for a bit.
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Like the people have had time to find their way to that page to donate and...
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That's a give-send-go-do-not-pass-go-do-not-collect-200-dollars.
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I suspect he might have banged this gong too many times and I don't know, he might be fishing
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in a dry well.
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Yeah.
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And I think that the audience sees the idea that like Joe Rogan just got a hundred million
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dollar contract with Spotify.
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If he believes what Alex says and really thinks that this is that important, two million's
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a drop in the bucket.
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He's been able to get that from Rogan easy.
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Why do you have to ask the people who are going paycheck to paycheck or you know the
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good people in the audience?
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Totally.
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Why are you trying to bilk them?
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Yeah.
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Absolutely.
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Because Rogan knows it's bullshit too.
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And of course it's bullshit.
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Nobody wants to pay for it.
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Yeah.
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Anyway, good luck.
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Yeah, I know.
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I'm excited to see how this one goes.
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Yeah.
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So here we go.
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We're going to start off on the 16th and here's where we're at.
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Let me tell you what's really huge and got me having butterflies right now.
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And I don't get butterflies a lot.
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I'm having really big ones today.
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I think a big war is about to start.
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Something big is about to go down.
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My sense has never been this strong.
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It's like on fire right now.
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Woo.
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Talk about chills.
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Talk about the head of the stomach.
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Man that is some, that is some energy right there.
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There's some big stuff.
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Yep.
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So a big stuff.
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I'm going to lose all of my money.
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I'm going to lose all of my money.
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Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait.
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I'm going to lose it all.
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It looks bad if you present yourself that way.
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So you probably should just say that there's a giant war coming.
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There's probably a huge war coming.
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Probably the end of the world is right around the corner.
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I mean, I got to have to guess that all the world's nuclear powers are going to start
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a war against each other immediately or I'm going to lose all of my money.
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I don't know which one.
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What you don't understand is me being rich is the only thing that is holding back the
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end of the world.
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I would not be surprised if he believed that on some level.
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Yeah.
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It would be good to see him try to pull that one off.
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So yeah, Alex is, he's high, but he's high on fighting Satan.
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That's what you should know.
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Sure.
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I'm high as a kite fighting Satan.
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I mean, I would not be anywhere else.
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The more I fight tyranny, the more I face down evil, the more I don't back down, just
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the more the universe opens up to just things I could never even imagined.
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And it's, it's a massive brain boost, ladies and gentlemen, an expansion of the soul like
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Gnarls Barkley talks about going crazy, but he's not going crazy and it just, there's
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so much space.
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It's just top of your head blows off.
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And it's just so amazing to be in the quiet place of the most high, like the philosopher
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Gnarls Barkley.
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I mean, I mean like, oh boy, let's just start with Cielo.
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Wow.
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Amazing voice.
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Maybe bad opinions.
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No argument there.
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A lot of bad shit.
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A lot of bad dude shit going on there.
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I was looking over his, uh, his Wikipedia page and it was, it was bizarre how there
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was sort of this pattern of him saying horrible things on Twitter and then immediately going,
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Hey man, I didn't mean to offend anybody.
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No listen, I'm sorry.
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I just have terrible thoughts that I want to enforce upon people and then I don't want
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to face any consequences for them.
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I'm Cielo Green.
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Yeah.
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So I didn't cut this clip cause it was, it would be too long and I don't really care
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that much, but the next commercial break he comes in with crazy.
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Of course he does.
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And he's just like, just singing along.
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Just going for it.
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Oh boy.
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Does he go for the falsetto?
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Maybe I'm crazy.
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No, no.
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Oh, come on.
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He's Shatner-ing it.
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Driving me crazy.
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I would like to see the upper end of Alex's register.
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I want to know what the falsetto is.
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It's probably not great.
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Speaking of not great, Alex gets to this clip of Mike Flynn, the interview pretty quick
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into the show.
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Pretty early on.
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Okay.
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All right, let's go ahead my friends and go to this very important little short clip.
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That's from just the intro of the hour long interview with General Flynn that we shot
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Saturday in San Antonio.
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It's in one of the little green rooms off where he was speaking to a crowd of 5,000
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people.
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And we're also on Thursday.
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We got some other interviews I did and a speech I gave.
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That's going to be on Thursday and it's very powerful as well with Patrick Berg.
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But this is the interview that really, if people listen to it, will change the world.
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This is the battle plan of victory here.
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So it's the battle plan of victory.
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So Alex plays this little clip.
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It's like a sizzle reel kind of this interview, the flinter view as I'm going to call it.
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Don't you dare.
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Come on.
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I'm taking it away from you.
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So the part that's hilarious about this is that the overarching theme of the clips that
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Alex plays on his show is just Flynn saying that Alex was right all along.
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It's really self-aggrandizing.
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I didn't get any indication that the interview was a battle plan for victory as much as it
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was a preview almost entirely about how great Alex is.
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That doesn't surprise me since he's a narcissist and having people talk about how great you
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are is kind of the road to victory.
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Anyway, I didn't feel like I got a good sense of what the interview was about from this
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sizzle reel.
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So, like I said, I decided to watch the full version and see what I could learn.
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Sure, sure, sure, sure.
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And I was really particularly trying to figure out like where is the battle plan.
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Right.
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Because that's what Alex is saying this is.
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There's like useful information moving forward.
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Absolutely.
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This is how we're going to achieve victory.
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We need to divide these certain groups.
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We need to flank them, et cetera, et cetera, battle plans.
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It's mostly complaining.
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Well, there's a lot to complain about.
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Yeah.
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Let's go on the sixth a little bit.
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Sure.
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And, you know, I think of people that are following what I'm doing or what's happening
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in my life and everything that's happening in yours as well with all of this stuff with
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the January 6th, I call it the insurrection crucifixion because that's what it is.
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And in a way, you know, from a biblical sense, Nancy Pelosi's like the punches pilot of this
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operation that they are doing to basically steal away all of the other aspects of what's
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happening across this country.
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Like you got the Durham report, right?
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Whatever comes out of that, the Durham investigation is ongoing and there's been a lot of things
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dropped.
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I haven't been things dropped.
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People aren't covering stuff up.
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Look, did anybody try and shit on Pontius Pilate's desk?
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Not that I'm aware of.
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I don't think they were.
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I don't think he had a desk.
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Oh, that's a good point.
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He had some water.
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I'm trying to follow this metaphor.
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Sure.
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Yeah, I'm struggling.
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Who's Jesus?
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I have no idea.
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How is Nancy Pelosi Pontius Pilate?
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Are the oath keepers Jesus collectively?
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Who is Nancy Pelosi?
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Well, I mean, did somebody bring something to Nancy Pelosi that she then washed her hands
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of?
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Did somebody say, hey, Nancy, we want all of these insurrectionists to be free or whatever
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because they're the Messiah.
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And she was like, nah, dude.
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Wait, no, that's even backwards.
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She would have been the one saying, no, everybody here is fine.
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Don't kill them.
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Is QAnon Barabbas?
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I guess, yeah.
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Then the crowd is chanting for Mike Pence's death, but she's saying, don't kill Mike Pence.
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Mike Pence is Jesus.
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Wait.
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Yep.
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See, this is a little confusing.
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I understand the desire because insurrection rhymes with crucifixion, sort of.
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I appreciate that word play.
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I understand why you want to get as biblical as you can, because it's red meat for the
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audience.
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They love it.
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This is dumb.
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I don't like it when people get both reality and unreality wrong.
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That's real frustrating.
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Pick one.
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Speaking of things that are questionable in terms of reality, do you think that Mike Flynn
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thinks that the 2020 election was stolen?
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Boy, that seems too obvious a question, so I'm going to go with no.
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Actually, it's yes, but there's a follow-up question.
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Well, that's not fair.
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He thinks the 2016 election was stolen.
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I'm going to go with yes.
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Yep, you got that right.
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In 2016, I believe, based on what we've learned in the last nine months, 10 months, that I
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believe that there was massive fraud conducted in the 2016 election.
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They just didn't have the mail-in ballots, so they used the machines to manipulate, but
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Donald Trump, in that case, essentially ran the tables, and he outdid the algorithms,
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this word that everybody has learned, the algorithms of these machines, and he beat
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the odds, and he became president, and then for four years, they tried to take him out.
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They tried to cut him off at the knees every single day, and that story is still being
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told.
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And so what they decided, and I think that they decided this right after the 2016 election,
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they said this was never going to happen again.
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We're never going to have another election that we're not going to control the outcome
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of, and so kick in COVID, right?
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Bring in COVID.
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Bring in the COVID control mechanisms, and they're very, very smart.
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They did it in a very masterful way.
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I give them a lot of credit.
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It's like military strategy at its finest.
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And what they did was they used the COVID control mechanisms to bring in the whole mail-in
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ballot, right?
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There's so much fraud in mail-in ballot.
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So yeah, we got this whole plan.
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Yeah.
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Very elaborate.
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Oh, of course.
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So the 2016 election was stolen, but Trump did so well that he overrode the voter fraud,
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which is, that's Alex's narrative, that's what he says.
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And then because they're like, fuck, he's too good.
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We didn't consider this when we were rigging the election.
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We didn't consider that it would be possible that someone could be so popular that they
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would overcome all efforts to take him down, and so we have to get COVID.
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I think I would say that if you've started invalidating even the elections you've won,
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your argument is let's never hold elections again.
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Well, that's kind of what Flynn ends up getting towards in this interview as well, because
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he's talking about the Youngkin election in Virginia, and he's basically saying that that
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was the same thing.
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Yeah, of course.
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They were trying to steal it.
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Right, right, right, right.
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Even if we win, it's stolen.
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This is not a good path for us to go down.
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There's never a win.
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No.
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Oh, boy.
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No.
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Let's get into this interview.
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It's probably 35 minutes long all day, all things considered.
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Sure.
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Alex finally asks, what can we do to fight back?
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So maybe this is the battle plan.
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Okay, here we go.
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And Flynn's response might be a little cliche.
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What are some basic things the American people can do and that Congress and the states and
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the legislatures and some of the good senators we have can do to get past the intimidation
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when we're told, don't investigate, don't call for election security, don't call for
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election integrity.
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What can we do to get people moving in the right direction to make sure they don't steal
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2022?
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Yeah, good question.
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And so first of all, courage is a decision.
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Courage is not something that is in your DNA.
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It might be, but at the end of the day, courage is a decision that you have to make.
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So you're telling me it's possible that courage might be in your DNA?
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Yeah.
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Explain to me how courage is both a decision and something you were innately born with.
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I don't know.
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Okay, that's a good point.
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But I think it's just a cliche thing that sounds fun.
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Yeah.
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Courage is a choice.
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Honor is a choice for life decisions.
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You could see that on a poster or something.
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Sure.
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Yeah, yeah.
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Hang in there.
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So basically his advice almost entirely boils down to like, think locally, act globally.
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It'll have global ramifications basically.
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Sure, sure, sure.
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It's more cliche nonsense that people have been...
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But there's some truth to it, but it's kind of an idea that a lot of people in organizing
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have already known for a long time.
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It's like Jimmy James is the secret of management.
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Secret number 56, I'm with stupid.
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Yeah, it's trite at very least and not groundbreaking at best.
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No.
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One of the ways that you can act locally though, is you got to get in there to those school
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board meetings, man.
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It's so fun what the right wing is doing at school board meetings.
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They love it.
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They eat that up.
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Why has there been so much visibility about school boards and school board activity around
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this country?
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You kind of say to yourself, where did these people come from?
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Why did school boards get like this?
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Part of it is, is that we have taken for granted our freedoms and we have not gotten involved.
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We just sort of take it for granted that, oh, Alex, this guy, Alex, he's on the school
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board.
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And you go, well, where did Alex come from?
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And who is he?
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What is his background?
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And all of a sudden we're finding out that we have these, what I call democratic socialists
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that are on these school boards because the education system is the way to change the
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entire culture of a country.
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And they brag about that.
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And they brag about it.
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They write about it.
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They've been talking about it for decades.
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This is not something that happened because of Donald Trump.
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This has been going on for decades.
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It's not so much that there's something different going on with school boards as it is.
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People have figured out that they can get viral videos really easily by going and yelling
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at school boards and people just don't stop them.
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So I don't know where Flynn's getting any stats about socialists on school boards, but
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I understand what he's doing.
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This is just an attempt to encourage more intimidation and chaos at school board meetings
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because they're the perfect target for right-wing agitation.
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School board members probably aren't going to argue with you.
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You just get to yell whatever you want for a few minutes, then you get to post a video
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of yourself, which encourages more people who want attention to do the same thing.
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It's a self-perpetuating cycle.
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Now, another important thing to point out is that the people who share Alex and Flynn's
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politics don't have sway in most school boards because they took their freedom for granted.
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They don't have sway there because they don't care about the actual work that school boards
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do.
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And their politics would actually advocate for the elimination of public schools and
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thus school boards.
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They don't care.
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Yeah, and I mean, your argument is more like, hey, this teacher wants you to read, and you're
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like, oh, well, that's a commie socialist right there.
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People who are drawn to serving on school boards generally aren't power-mad socialists.
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They're people who care deeply about the community they live in and are often dedicated to educational
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issues.
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This is slightly idealistic on my part, and obviously there's some folks who aren't high-minded
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and totally altruistic, but being on a school board generally means putting in a ton of
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extra work that's completely thankless and generally poorly compensated.
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According to the National School Board Association, quote, 75% of small district school board
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members receive no salary.
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A lot of school districts have elections for board members, too, so that's an added hurdle
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that people have to clear in order to get on the board.
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You weren't paying attention for a long time, and you didn't give a fuck about the fact
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that you could have voted for somebody else to be on the school board, you dumb, dumb
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dick.
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I mean, the problem is their argument has to be, like, all that time that when you weren't
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paying attention, all this evil stuff was happening, not, like, the reason you didn't
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have to pay attention is because everything was fine, you know?
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So now it's like they've been doing this all in secret, despite the fact that if you were
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to go look at it, you were like, I haven't cared about my school board in my town for
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40 fucking years, I didn't go to school here, I don't know any of the kids here, why would
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I give a shit about the school board?
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And then all of a sudden, now it's like, well, I'm some asshole who's doing nothing, but
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I think I'm going to go bother the school board.
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Dreadlocked weirdo can go scream at the school board, and he also could have done that ten
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years ago, and just no one really, it wasn't that big a deal, and the right-wing media
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wasn't in this, like, hey, let's go fuck with school boards thing.
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It wasn't the flavor du jour.
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Right.
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So, great.
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Here we are.
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This is bad.
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It's good stuff.
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It's a jerk.
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Anyway, that's most of his battle plan, is like, fuck with school boards, find out who
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owns your local paper, I don't know if this is a battle plan.
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Let's get five million people together and buy Turner Media.
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So I think a lot of what Alex wanted out of this interview is he wanted to get Flynn to
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say that he was going to run for president, and he doesn't really.
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You're already traveling around the country working hard to keep people organized and
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ready and empowering and force multiplying and doing a beautiful job, and I just think
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that you could accelerate that if you went ahead soon and did declare that you were running
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an America first party or something, and that if Trump did run and then built up that you'd
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swing that support over, I mean, I think that would energize what you're doing even more,
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but that's my opinion.
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I know you talked to Trump.
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I think he would understand that you're not angling to undercut him, but I just can't
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wait to be part of this with you, General.
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Thank you so much.
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Thanks, Alex.
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Appreciate it.
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So, I like that part of the discussion about like, come on, you should say you're running
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for president is like, you know, Trump wouldn't think you're betraying him.
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Right, right, right, right.
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That's healthy.
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Hey, hey, listen, we want you to run for president knowing full well you will not win.
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It's a waste of your time, and at all the end of this, your main job is to give all
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of the stuff that you have worked hard for to somebody who has literally never worked
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a day in his life.
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Sounds good.
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Yeah, that's good stuff.
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I think I'd rather spend my time yelling at a school board.
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There we go.
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So we get back to the episode proper, and Alex has some, you know, he's always right
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about things.
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We've heard this.
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He has some predictions about where we're going with COVID vaccines.
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Sure.
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Living in denial is only going to let this take place, and so many people go, well, Jones,
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I'll just take a third, fourth, fifth, sixth shot.
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They're talking about seven to 10 a year, and of course, that'll be one a day or one
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an hour.
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They're going to do this until you just get used to getting injections that make you sterile
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and die, but the evidence is one shot's super bad, two is incredibly horrible, three is
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just stratospheric problems, and they're just normalizing it, incremental.
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It's like putting a frog in the pot, turning the heat up slowly.
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That's exactly what they're doing.
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So I guess the conservative estimate that he's making is seven to 10 COVID vaccines
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a year, and then maybe one a day, one an hour, so it might be a little bit exaggerated.
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365 multiplied by 24, right?
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So that's-
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Do you have to take shots while you're sleeping?
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Ooh, that's a good question.
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Yeah.
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I would assume so.
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You have to wake up in the middle of the night and give yourself a booster or something.
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Let's say you get a good seven hours of sleep a night.
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Sure.
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All right.
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Then the 365 is only multiplied by 17, right?
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But you got to take one shot in the middle of the night just to hold you over.
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So we'll all have to change it to a broken up sleep schedule.
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Right, right, right.
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Let's say you sleep three hours at a time.
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Let's call that 19 shots because you got one before you go to bed, one when you wake up,
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and then one to boost yourself before your morning shot.
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Or possibly the government will mandate that you can only sleep in 20 minute chunks.
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Sure.
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Like that Da Vinci sleep cycle.
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That would be fun.
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Yeah.
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Or, and let me throw this at you-
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That's just so you could take a shot every hour.
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Every room is altered to be like a Indiana Jones booby trap room where if you step on
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a certain tile, 30 vaccine shots get shot at you from the walls.
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Or it could be like the hatch in Lost where there's a counter clicking down to an hour
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and you have to take the shot or else the electromagnetic anomaly will go off and crash
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a plane.
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Yeah, absolutely.
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There's going to have to be stakes if you want me to get the shot on time every 10 minutes.
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Stupid.
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Anyway, he might be fear mongering a little bit.
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Oh, you think?
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Yeah.
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Okay.
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One of the best pictures in the story of Infowars that I think doesn't get enough play, but
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definitely does come up more than you'd expect, is Alex's wife's tennis partner.
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Yes.
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Surprising both how much it comes up and that it comes up at all.
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We've not heard from this tennis partner in a while, but here's an update.
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Okay.
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I mean, hell, this woman was bragging to my wife yesterday how she's going to take her
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seven and 10 year old to get vaccinated yesterday.
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She's playing tennis with her and she didn't even warn the lady.
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She said, well, it's just Darwinistic.
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She wants to kill her kids.
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I said, honey, that's terrible.
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She said, look, she knows who I am.
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She knows who you are.
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She shot her mouth off before she was just rubbing it in, so she wants to brain damage
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her kids.
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It's up to her.
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I don't think she has a right to hurt her children, but that's where we are.
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We'll be right back.
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Okay.
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Got cut off by the break.
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That's very funny.
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Yeah.
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That's very funny.
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Imagine Alex's wife.
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I didn't even warn her.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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She was talking shit.
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She was just showing off that her husband doesn't run an outlet designed expressly to
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destroy children.
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What does it mean to brag about your children getting vaccinated?
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Oh man, my kids are not going to die.
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Ooh, look at your kids.
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They're going to die all the time.
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I think that's a strange phrasing.
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It is weird.
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So we're going to get into a little bit of Alex talking about how many abortions he's
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paid for.
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Okay.
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Some of this doesn't quite match up with some of the other comments he's made in the past.
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Uh, timeline issues certainly come up.
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That'll happen.
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Um, but I always, I kind of, after the initial shock of him admitting on air that he's paid
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for over 10 abortions, um, since the shock of that, uh, I don't want to talk about that
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too much cause I don't want to give the appearance that I would be in any way judgmental of someone
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making that decision.
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Yeah.
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We have no moralization.
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Right.
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And I don't want that to possibly be misconstrued.
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Sure.
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But in this case, it kind of got to bring it up because of where the conversation goes.
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Okay.
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Uh, this is a mess.
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My man.
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Oh boy.
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Some of my first access TV shows 28 years ago, I explained to people that I was a Christian,
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but that I wasn't a Bible thumper and I wasn't judging people.
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And I explained how the left would control women and men that had taken part in abortions
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by saying, you're a sinner, you're going to hell, you killed a baby.
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And so they go, no, it's not.
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They do.
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And then they commit and harden their hearts instead of, Hey, God will forgive you.
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You got set up, you got lied to, that was a human life.
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You know, your heart deep down, you know, it's true.
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Just ask God for forgiveness.
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The Holy spirit will come into you and you'll be freed of this weight of what you were involved
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in.
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I know I paid for quite a few abortions and it literally cursed me and I, and I sought
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God's face and was repenting, not even about the abortions, just to the darkness I was
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in.
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And God literally, the Holy spirit said, you need to say, you're sorry to those children
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you killed and you need to get on your knees and you need to ask forgiveness.
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And I did that was taken away from me.
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And then God said, now here's your mission.
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I was like 17 years old and it hit me like a, now I got rid of that curse on you.
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Now you're going to go to work.
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And I was like, Whoa, Whoa, I just got struck by lightning.
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Yeah.
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That timeline doesn't quite work out for me based on other comments he's made in the past.
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I mean, wow.
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I mean, if it's, if it's that young, I guess his dad paid for 10 abortions plus.
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Oh, I think that was already understood.
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That was already understood.
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I believe so.
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Oh, okay.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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All right.
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It seems like his dad doesn't feel too much guilt about it.
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I do.
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He's not on the record.
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Um, so thinking about this head space that he's in, you know, he's like, I killed these
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kids.
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Oh no.
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Um, that leads him to a confess to murder again.
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Oh, okay.
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Good.
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And that's, that's what happened.
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They go, Oh, he's a hypocrite.
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He's against abortion.
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And he admits he's done it.
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Well, it's like saying you committed a murder, which I did.
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I'm a murderer, but I didn't just beat my children and just cut my children up in pieces.
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I've, I've pounded a few skulls in what, and the, the, the issue is, is that I've repented
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of that.
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And then God said, well, there's going to be a price to pay fed through a meat grinder.
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Well, that's what my children, my little children.
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I got them chopped up, vacuum, clean it up, sold for body parts.
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I'm a sinner.
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I repent.
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I'm a bad person.
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I'm a killer, but I'll tell you something.
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God forgave me.
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So he's trying to give this impression that God has forgiven him and then all the guilt
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is gone and you know, all this, but like that is absolutely not true.
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No, he is intensely motivated by some kind of a guilt that he feels about this.
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I mean, it would be hard to think to yourself after listening to that, oh, repentance gives
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you clear thoughts and calm of mind and free of heart.
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It allows you, it allows you to see everything clearly and your motivations are, are just
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totally above board.
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It seems more like, and I'm going to throw this out there, uh, that he is haunted daily
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by his past and it tears him apart inside leading him to do and commit terrible things.
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Doesn't exaggerate the sins that he's committed.
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Like I've murdered people.
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So in a sense, I would argue that repentance doesn't do shit for you at all.
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If Alex is the embodiment of repentance, I would say that it's a bad thing.
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It's a bad deal.
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It's a real bad deal.
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Don't take it.
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Yeah, but forgiveness is good.
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It's good to forgive yourself.
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It is good to forgive yourself.
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So I know how sin works and I know how once you've committed it, the devil puts pressure
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on you and made and uses the fact that you have a conscience against you to manipulate
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and control you instead of just going to God and God will wipe it out.
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Ladies and gentlemen, it doesn't mean you're perfect, but those weights are gone.
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Sure they are.
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You use the analogy of the Christmas story where his old boss has got all these giant
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chains and balls on him, all the bad things he did that he's got to carry on his back
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for eternity.
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Not a Christmas story.
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If you feel that weight when you've committed really big crimes and sins, you need to get
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rid of it.
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It's a long way back from hell.
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You don't want to cross that line.
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Quote Glenn Danzig.
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What is happening?
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He's quoted the philosopher Glenn Danzig and Marles Barkley on this episode.
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What is happening?
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Okay.
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It's great.
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All right.
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We know what's on his playlist today.
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So that was A Christmas Carol.
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Yeah, Alex is talking about Jacob Marley.
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Indeed.
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He wasn't his boss.
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He was his business partner.
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Indeed.
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And I believe, if I'm not mistaken, the chains represented his wealth.
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Yes, correct.
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The chains represented him being obsessed with business.
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You indeed got it.
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Yes.
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The more money he made, the heavier his chains were.
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It's not really about sins in the way Alex is describing it.
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No, no, no, no.
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It's about specific ones and their ironic punishment.
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Yep.
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So Alex is on one, as you can see.
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He's rambling about killing people and how he has done that in the past.
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Sure, sure.
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Which is great.
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Good start.
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Sure.
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Yeah.
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And so he gets into talking about how the man needed to get him off air because he was
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given too much truth.
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I have a few thoughts about this that I want to discuss.
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Okay.
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We knew this day was coming.
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We knew it was going to happen because we had Operation Lockstep, and we had SPARS 2023,
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2025, and we had all the different in-game documents.
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And we knew that they were going to have a viral scare for Disease X.
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The UN said this three years ago, Rockefeller Foundation said it 12 years ago, that they
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would bring out the virus, they would scare everybody, they would train everybody to be
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locked down, they'd bring out a vaccine passport that would then be tied to a global travel
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passport and an internal passport that would have a carbon tax attached to it.
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That was in the documents 12 years ago.
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Right around that same time, China started developing its social credit score and Infowars.com
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and PrisonPlanet.com, that now redirects Infowars, at the time, at the time, were the first to
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report on all of this.
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And that's not, again, up here saying, oh, aren't we special?
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No, it's saying, we've done the research, we've been the tip of the spear.
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That's why the enemy is so upset.
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That's why they want us all fair.
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I mean, can you imagine them panicking three years ago when I was finally banned on Twitter
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six months after I was banned everywhere else, and there were videos of millions of views
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saying, I believe they're about to release a deadly virus to create fear and then have
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lockdowns and bring in a global ID out of the system.
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Here's the documents.
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What do you think they thought when they saw that?
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They said, get him off now, shut him up.
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How the hell does he know all this?
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Well, you guys brag about it.
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It's a fun story, but it's not real.
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That's not accurate at all.
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All of the citations that he made at the beginning were all not real.
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Operation Lockstep's not a real thing.
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Just various documents and scenario exercises that he's completely making shit up about.
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And this is what I want to get to.
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I don't think the idea that Alex has been yelling about them releasing a virus since
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1998 gives him any credibility.
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No, it gives him so much credibility, he was right.
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I think it actually works against his credibility.
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No, no, no, no.
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Because I can see your argument.
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Your argument is if somebody just keeps saying something that might happen, and then when
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something similar happens, just takes credit for it.
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Sure, that sounds suspicious, like maybe he doesn't know anything and he's just saying
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it.
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Right.
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Like the way that he constantly talks about a coming economic collapse in 2008, 2009 happens.
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Summers of rage?
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He called it.
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So many summers of rage.
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Yeah.
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It doesn't, it actually is, it cheapens the prediction.
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And if you add that to all of the predictions that he's made that have not come true, primarily
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the globalists nuking American cities, that was a big one that he was pretty obsessed
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with.
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While Chicago was nuked.
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Oh, the coming race war.
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Well, there was that.
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All of these things that he's been wrong about that you just ignore, he's shit.
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He's shit at predicting things.
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Let me throw this at you, because this conspiracy theory is going to break the case wide open,
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all right?
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I'm interested.
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Alex is right about everything, but the globalists, knowing that he's right, don't do it when
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he says they're going to do it over and over and over again to make him look insane, Dan.
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But actually that is what Alex believes.
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Yeah.
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Cause he's talked about like, you know, maybe, maybe they won't do it because we've talked
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about it.
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We've publicized their plan and so now they won't do it.
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Exactly.
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I don't know.
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It's ridiculous.
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It's so stupid.
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It's almost painful.
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It really is.
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Now also painful is Alex's deep seated hatred of women.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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That's in there.
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Boy, listen to this.
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That's down there.
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Statistically, women are 10, 20, 30 times, depending on the study, more likely to get
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in a van with a man that pulls up and pulls out a knife or a gun and says, get in.
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Most men will just run or fight because they know it's scarier to get in that van.
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It's not because the men have a bunch of courage.
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It's because they're not naive genetically.
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Women are more programmed to fight and to actually look through the options.
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Women are programmed by their genetics on average to try to get along with everybody
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and try to make people ease back a little bit.
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So, okay, sir, don't hurt me.
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Everything's okay.
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And then she ends up, you know, in a basement torture for two weeks before she's killed.
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Yikes.
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You know, you really, really got to believe that that's an inherently genetic trait.
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Otherwise you have to then deal with the fact that we actually live in a society that's
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oppressed women for so long and so brutally that the, that just acquiescence seems like
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an almost natural state of being as opposed to constant and near, I mean, just bananas.
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Just bananas.
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You got to think it's genetic.
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Otherwise we need to change something about society and we can't do that, Dan.
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We can't do that.
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Yeah.
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I, I'm baffled, but I constantly end up in situations where I'm listening to this show
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and I'm like, I can't believe, I've listened to hundreds, thousands of hours of his show
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and I still am like, I can't believe you believe that.
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You believe that women are genetically subservient or something.
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I mean, yeah, then like, what about let's, and I'm going to throw this one out there.
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Cause cause we could easily bring up examples, you know, you could easily bring up like a
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Greta Thunberg or like a Sonia Sotomayor or something along those lines.
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Maybe someone more in Alex's lane, maybe a Joan of Arc.
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Totally.
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You could do that, but that's individuals.
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That's anecdotal.
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That's not enough to prove that genetically maybe we're not dealing with something.
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Alex loves anecdotal shit.
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So let's say there was a time when women weren't allowed to vote, right?
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And the only way that they could get the vote was if a lot of them got together courageously.
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Yeah.
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That wouldn't be possible cause genetically they can't do that.
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Well, Alex would argue that men were the ones who gave women the right to vote.
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Nevermind.
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I'm point retracted.
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Obviously I was wrong about this the whole time.
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Yeah.
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So this is, this is pretty gross.
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Women and children are way more likely to go into Stockholm syndrome and maybe that's
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a survival attribute.
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Maybe, maybe, maybe it's best sometimes.
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I mean, that's why the Romans and every other ancient empire where they would take over
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an area would kill men above the age of 10 or 11 and they would keep the women and girls
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because the women and girls would self enforce on each other and, and, and just instantly
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convert within a few days to, to, to, to, to make their children survive.
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I mean, even if a woman just saw her husband at 20 years, cut up and torched to death,
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she's going to give those Roman centurions the best blow job of their life that evening
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so that they don't kill her children.
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I'm sorry to have to talk like that, but this is where real men need to come in and stop
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and go, Hey, women, you're under Stockholm syndrome.
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Stop wearing the mask.
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Stop going along with your captors.
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This is BS.
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Yikes.
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Yeah.
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There was a look on your face, like maybe halfway through that.
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I think right about at the blow job part really got me.
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That one got me.
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That one was like, wow.
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Really going to do it.
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Huh?
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Really going for it.
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I really, really enjoy the I'm sorry.
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I have to talk like this.
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Oh yeah.
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No, no, no.
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That's, that's what I would say.
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He could illustrate this point that is inaccurate and dumb, but he could illustrate that point
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without the blow job.
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You know what's ironic?
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That's very unnecessary.
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What's ironic is his description of Stockholm syndrome in this case works, but almost in
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the opposite that he's like Stockholm syndrome actually describes the phenomenon where you're
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trapped as the, uh, the case in Stockholm that it started from.
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You're trapped with people who are in your socioeconomic status and then the cops are
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evil and you are like, Oh, I get it.
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But in this situation, his way of getting women out of Stockholm syndrome is to walk
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up to them, scream, you're in Stockholm syndrome, get out of there, wake up, you idiots, which
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would suggest that they should stay where they are with the people who are not screaming
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at them.
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Yeah.
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I do think there's a couple of things.
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First.
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I don't know if Stockholm syndrome is even a real thing, but absolutely not.
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It describes the phenomenon of cops being assholes.
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And Alex seems to be saying that women are weak and they are susceptible to this Stockholm
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syndrome because they want to give blow jobs to centurions to protect their children.
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Now I think that his solution to this is we need to control, we need to aggressively threaten
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women to do what we want them to do.
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It does seem like that is his solution.
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I think that's bad.
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That's probably not, you know, you catch more flies with screaming in their faces that they're
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lied to.
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So Alex believes that this is the end, my friend, this is the end of everything perhaps,
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because he owes a lot of money soon.
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It's going to be fast.
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But he likes to bring up this metaphor of like, you know, we're about to get pulled
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in a riptide, right?
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We're about to get sucked under water.
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So what you need to do is take a big breath of air.
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And that's what he's all about.
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He's all about telling people, get a deep breath in.
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Sure.
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Right?
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And there's some bad stuff.
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There's some more predictions of what's to come.
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Oh, that's not good.
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And it's my job before they cut off all the communications, after a staged cyber attack
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or a real war they're about to start, to get as many people as informed so they know what's
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going on.
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It's kind of like you're out in the ocean, you get in a riptide, you feel it sucking
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you under, get a breath and then don't fight it once it pulls you under, statistically
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it's going to pop you back out in 30 seconds, a minute or two, just hold your breath, relax,
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don't fight.
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You're going to pop right back out, but I'm not saying don't fight them physically.
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They do this.
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It's an analogy.
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They're just like, oh gosh, I'm going to fight this.
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Okay.
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Oh, that popped me out in five seconds.
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That wasn't too bad.
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Most people just floating around in it, panic and get the water down their throat.
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Now I'm just here to tell everybody, get your deep breath, get your deep breath, get your
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deep breath.
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And then they launch a nuclear attack and say that the Russians did it.
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I mean, they want us dead.
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They want us out of the way.
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They've made the decision.
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And the fact that they rolled ahead with this bio attack means they could do anything.
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And that's really why the senators aren't fighting them.
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The senators have got their emergency exit plans during martial law.
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They've got their underground base cards.
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And of course, once they get them in those bases, they're going to kill them all, the
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whole COG system.
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So this is just the end of everything.
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And so everybody else can rearrange deck chairs in the Titanic and everybody else can pretend
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like, oh, the liberals are just out of control or no.
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Okay.
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So maybe there'll be a fake cyber attack or maybe a real war.
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Maybe they'll nuke us again, another nuke prediction, and then they'll blame it on Russia.
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And then they'll get all the senators into their underground bases that they all have
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access to.
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But it's all just a trap to kill them within their underground bases.
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To what end, I'm not sure.
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Is there an end goal?
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Yeah, I think so.
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And that is because once the shit pops off, senators become dukes.
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Yeah.
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See, that's what I'm...
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Dukes and duchesses.
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They always become dukes and duchesses.
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Isn't that true?
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Yeah.
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So they have to kill them off lest they control parcels of land.
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I would like insight into the conversation.
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If we're down to two options, one of which is staged cyber attack and the other is real
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war.
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Right.
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I mean, I know we could stage a cyber attack, be super easy.
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No one would die.
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I mean, a few people because, you know, pacemakers, but we're evil, so we're fine with that.
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Or we could kill billions in a real war.
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Which do you want to go with?
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I feel like that conversation's a lot easier.
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Well, but you don't understand how evil the globalists are and how much they like to kill
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people.
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That's true.
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They love to kill people, but also are putting a heart attack medication in the vaccine to
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stop people from having heart attacks when they get it.
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Okay, great.
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Right.
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All right.
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Okay.
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So dumb.
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All right.
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So Alex seems pretty mad.
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I wonder if you can guess what he's mad about.
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Oh man, I just don't know.
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It has to do with the executive branch.
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Oh boy, Dan, I'm going to go with the Build Back Better Act.
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No.
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Oh, I'm going to go with other legislation that's being proposed.
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I'm going to go with real consequential and important information.
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I think that your first instinct would be to think that it was that he's mad that Kamala
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Harris would take over for a while while Joe Biden was under.
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No, no, no, no, no.
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I wouldn't think that because that would be, it would require somebody so racist to ignore
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how meaningless it is.
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No, no, no.
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But there's bigger issues.
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Oh, okay.
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Pete Buttigieg had a baby.
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Notice whether it's the New York Times or CBS News, they all cropped it to not show
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an American flag.
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Now we look at that and go, look what a commie he is.
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Look what a traitor he is.
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But you know that every photo is him with just that flag.
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And why do they do that?
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Let's talk about Biden.
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Yeah.
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Because they're now going to get ready to get rid of him.
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He's served his usefulness.
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Now they're like, oh, we got to have Kamala and Buttigieg.
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Hey, Buttigieg had a baby.
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His husband laid in the hospital bed, thought you were so dumb.
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They put on hospital scrubs and lay in a bed.
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Look, we had a baby.
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Part of the brainwashing.
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It's some kid they got from somebody else.
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I mean, I, oh, here we are with our wait multi-month old baby.
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You just had it.
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You know, men have babies, all the gaslighting, all of it, the mind control, all of the control.
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Oh, it's OK if Biden steps down because Buttigieg is gay.
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Oh my gosh.
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But he had that on his resume.
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Oh my gosh.
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I mean, can I be vice president?
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I tell you what, I'm gay too, folks.
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I need to be vice president now.
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You know, like Tim Cook is to run death camps, worst in the world.
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On record, worst factories in the world, suicide nets, forced abortion, 16, 18 hour workdays,
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forced drugging of the slaves, people living in container.
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But it's all right.
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Tim Cook is what?
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That's the answer?
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G-A-Y.
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And he wears a black turtleneck.
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Wow.
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So one thing that's important to remember about the context of this clip is that that
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was not actually Ric Flair.
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Dating back 15, 17 years even, Alex has a conspiracy theory that the Child Protective
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Service is trying to take away straight people's children to give them to gay couples.
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So when you hear him talk about this, he's very against gay adoption.
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Yes, yeah, yeah.
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And so this is painfully homophobic.
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Oh, it's incredibly homophobic.
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The other thing I want to bring up here is, does Alex really think that the reason that
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the working conditions in Apple factories isn't more tightly regulated is because Tim
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Cook is gay?
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Like that's dumb, and deeply homophobic too.
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It's obviously a function of industry more than it is.
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No, no, no, no, no.
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Because we can't regulate capitalism, because I feel like you're saying that this might
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be a result of unregulated capitalism, and I think you're wrong.
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This is the, it's because gay people can get adoptions.
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And they can get away with anything.
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Does he think that we think that they are telling us they actually had a baby?
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I don't know.
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Because it sounded like he thinks that they have brainwashed us into us thinking, wow,
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they really had a baby.
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I don't know.
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Because a man had a baby.
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I don't know.
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Because it sounds like that's what he's saying.
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I think it's close, but I don't know, man.
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I just think he's really angry gay people.
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I mean, yes, but that's the problem.
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All of what he said just boil it down to just be like, I hate gay people.
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Because otherwise it sounds like you're mad at a scattershot nonsense barrage.
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Yeah, I mean, what he's saying doesn't make sense if you believe him to be tolerant.
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Yes, exactly.
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It all makes sense if you just recognize that he's a bigot.
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Oh, you're a massive bigot.
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Okay, gotcha.
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So Alex isn't a guy back on the show by the name of Steve Kirsch.
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I don't know if you remember this guy, he's an inventor.
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He invented InfoSeek, the early search engine, also is entirely convinced that Gavin Newsom
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was paralyzed by a vaccine.
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He was.
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We talked to him about that.
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He's doubling down on this.
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So Alex is going to have him back on to do that.
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Coming up, we've got some of the videos of Newsom and his face looking partially paralyzed
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as sources had said, but that usually goes away in about two weeks.
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And also that his children aren't vaccinated.
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Steve Kirsch has written about that as well on his substack account, but I wanted to hit
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just all this cardiac news and information coming out first.
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But yeah, that photo there, you can really see that that looks, it does look paralyzed.
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It is different.
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He has the dimple on the other side, not on that side.
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Really dramatic.
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So there was a video going around that purported to show one side of Gavin Newsom's face drooping,
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thus proving that the vaccine gave him like Bell's palsy.
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Yeah, they got him.
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Video was edited.
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Video was just manipulated by someone who credits themselves as a digital artist.
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Oh good.
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It's fake.
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The real version before editing is widely available, even on Newsom's own Twitter page.
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In terms of the cardiac stuff that they're talking about, it's all just stuff that he's
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misrepresenting Vare's data on.
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It's not even worth responding to again.
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But this is kind of fun.
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Steve is sad.
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Oh no.
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No one will debate him.
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Oh no.
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This is a complete disaster.
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These vaccines should not be given to anyone under any circumstances, any age, any comorbidity.
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The evidence just doesn't support that.
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And nobody seems to want to debate me on this.
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I have tried to debate anyone in the medical community, you know, because they accuse me
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of spreading misinformation, but nobody wants to debate me.
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That's the best way to silence me is to debate me.
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Nobody in mainstream academia, nobody in the CDC, nobody in the FDA.
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They all want to just ignore everything I'm saying because they don't want to confront
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what's going on.
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Unfortunately, you're not in any of those groups that Steve is desiring to.
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But I would say that the reason that I wanted to debate him is because he's a weirdo.
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Yeah.
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He's someone you don't want to be seen with in public, maybe.
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You don't want to get into the mud with this kind of idiot.
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I wouldn't do it.
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No.
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I mean, I would do it, but if I was one of them, I wouldn't do it.
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You know, that's why I'm not one of them.
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Yes.
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And why you'd be open to it.
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Exactly.
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So, Steve and Alex are talking about this, the vaccine, and they're saying like, it's
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going to be such a disaster for the medical community and no one will ever trust them
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again.
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Right?
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And the mainstream media, no one will ever trust them.
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But they realize we've had the vaccine for months, months and months, and plenty of people
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are not dead.
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That's true.
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Yeah.
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So let's focus on this part of this.
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So they're talking about like the trust is going to be completely gone.
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No one's going to trust the medical community or the mainstream media ever again, because
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of the whole charade of the vaccines, right?
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Sure.
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I don't understand why they're bringing that up.
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They don't want people to trust the mainstream media.
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That's exactly what they want.
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That's a good point.
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It's really dumb for them to be all like, oh no, people won't believe you anymore.
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Exactly the outcome I rely on to make money.
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It's fucking stupid listening to this nonsense.
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I saw one FDA board member a few months ago saying in a quote, of course they got off
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the board saying, you're going to destroy belief in the credibility of vaccines for
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generations.
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I mean, if you actually wanted to destroy medicine, you'd act like this.
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Oh yeah, absolutely.
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And that's exactly what they're doing.
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But it's not just in vaccines.
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People are not going to believe their doctors anymore, right?
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That's what's going to come out of this.
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They're not going to believe the doctors.
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They're not going to believe anything that Congress says.
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They're not going to believe anything that the mainstream media says, and they're not
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going to believe any of the three letter agencies, the FDA, the CDC, and the NIH.
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That's what's going to come out of this.
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Those are all positive outcomes for Alex.
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That's exactly what he's always wanted because he said you should never trust them in the
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first place.
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Exactly.
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And you shouldn't trust doctors.
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You shouldn't just take zinc and iodine and shit.
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Do you have any supplements?
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You'll be fine.
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Just take vitamins.
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Yeah, I was going to say.
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All of this is exactly what Alex would want and it's a little weird.
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I just, here's my, I want an itemized list of what they do trust doctors on now.
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Like they clearly, they trust them on like a cancer, right?
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No, just rub some dirt on it.
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Okay.
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You're fine.
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Like, I mean, I don't know, there are diseases and shit that are unquestioned by these people,
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right?
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Maybe a broken arm.
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Yeah, a broken arm.
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Somebody will set their broken arm for him, right?
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Yeah, the splint.
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But why is that okay?
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And not, you know, it's like, it's all or nothing if you think that the medical establishment
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is murdering you.
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You can't be like, well, I mean, if they give me the vaccine, they'll murder me.
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But obviously if I broke my leg, I need to go get my legs.
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You think they're not creative enough to figure out a way to kill you with a broken leg?
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Exactly.
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You can get in the, oh, we got to give you this painkiller and then you're dead.
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These doctors are evil and they've been doing it for a long time.
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They can kill you with a toenail problem.
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Yeah, you should never go to the hospital for anything.
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Yeah, yeah.
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I just think it's a little silly for them to pretend that they have any investment at
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all in people having faith or trust in authoritative sources, government agencies.
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Their business is to erode that trust.
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No, Dan, there's nothing they want more than to be rendered obsolete by a mainstream media
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performing exactly their duties.
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They want to live in a society where everyone is comfortable and there's no bullshit flying
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around that people are profiting off of heavily.
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They just want honesty.
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Yep.
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Yep.
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So speaking of bullshit, here's Steve disqualifying himself as someone you should listen to.
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Okay.
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How do you look at the data on this?
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Because I'm not as technical as you.
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I just read all these articles and studies where people six months after the Pfizer shot,
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especially they take the booster, they then get negative immunity, meaning before the
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shot they had better immunity than after they had it six months later.
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That doesn't sound like a very good product to me.
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Yeah.
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If you look on the exposed website, they have some graphs.
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They did some really nice graphs showing vaccine efficacy waning.
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So you get the vaccine and it appears to work for just a little while and then it goes down
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to zero and then it goes negative, which means you're more likely to be infected if you get
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the vaccine.
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Amazing.
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We talked about this on a previous episode.
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This is a doctored set of information.
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So if he's somebody who would find that to be compelling and not look into it a little
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bit further, not recognize that this information has been manipulated very transparently, I
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don't think I'm going to trust him on much.
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I mean, if you give me any graph that clearly has white out on it because there's a section
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you didn't want me to see.
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No, wait, this is crossed out.
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What is that?
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Yeah, exactly.
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You didn't even hide it.
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You just used a fucking permanent marker, then you're done.
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You don't ever get to get listened to again.
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Yeah, yeah.
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And among the many sins of that expose article is that the person who put it together did
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take out lines of data that didn't work for his argument, and that is disqualifying.
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It would be like if somebody asked you for some accounting information and you didn't
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want them to know the full accounting information, so you took at random the QuickBooks file
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and then gave it to another person to talk to the information.
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So if you're not convinced by this expose thing, which you shouldn't be, and you're
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not convinced by the fake video of Gavin Newsom's face, maybe you will be convinced by Steve
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having 17 pieces of details and information.
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Let's start getting into Newsom.
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You read in a big article about that saying Newsom's lying about his vaccine injury and
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here you can prove it.
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Yeah, so look, I've got 17 different sources.
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There's 17 different pieces of evidence, and they're all consistent with the hypothesis
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that Gavin Newsom is vaccine injured.
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So I went to his substack, which I should say he's heavily promoting on this appearance.
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Oh yeah, I imagine so.
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I think that's the game.
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But I found his article, Gavin Newsom is lying about his vaccine injury, and here he has
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his list of points.
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17.
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No, it's grown to 19.
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What, does he only do prime numbers?
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Must.
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So I think it was probably like, uh-oh, this is going to get QAnon excited.
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It's 17.
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Oh shit, better add a few more.
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So here's the first one, quote, his kids were in school on November 1st through 3rd during
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the climate meeting when he was supposed to be there.
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So what was his excuse for not attending by Zoom?
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It couldn't be to be a good dad since his kids weren't home.
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So what was it?
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Why didn't he explain it on November 1st?
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Why do we still not know?
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How come none of the fact checkers ask this question?
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Could it be the fact checkers are biased?
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Ooh, or could it be that you never looked for the answers to that question?
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I don't know.
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So here's number three, quote, Alex Jones reported his sources confirmed that his sources
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observed doctors were going in and out of his house during the period that Gavin was
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out of sight.
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So one of his pieces of evidence is a second-hand account of third-hand information.
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From Alex, and now he's using this article to make an argument on Alex's show that relies
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on evidence that he got from Alex.
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You know that Ouroboros of far-right beliefs, I'm just impenetrable.
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Quote, this is number eight, quote, Gavin had his bad side away from the camera when
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he appeared.
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The lighting was poor and the focus was bad and the shots were long.
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Here's number nine, quote, we never saw him walk on camera during his first public appearance
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after the recovery period.
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Here's number 12, quote, multiple Twitter postings suggested Bell's palsy or Guillain-Barre
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syndrome.
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Just multiple Twitter posts suggested that.
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I don't know what that means.
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Oh, it just means multiple Twitter posts suggested that.
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That's a piece of evidence.
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Sure.
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Here's number 18, quote, clearly I'm not the only one with suspicions here.
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And then there's a hyperlink to check out this meme page.
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I want to see that episode of Columbo where he's like, just one more thing.
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Check out this meme page.
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Have you seen this meme page?
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Here's the last one.
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There's some people who tweeted saying you did it.
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Here's the last one on his list, it's over 19, quote, I have more, but it would compromise
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sources.
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What?
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No, that's not a detail.
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No, it's the absence of a detail.
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It's an explanation for why you don't have a detail.
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That's not fair.
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No, this is a really stupid list.
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Oh man.
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I want to go back to all those 1920s drawing room.
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Now we get all the suspects together and solve this together in the same room around the
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dinner table.
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I want that, but with this level of information.
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I want it to be like, and there, he's a Steely Dan over there.
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He jumped upside and then we saw somebody from another town over who met a friend of
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his over there who said that maybe one time you did it.
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Yeah.
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I think there's Steve Kirsch's more Hastings than Poirot.
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Yeah.
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Let's go that way.
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He does not have his little gray sails working, this is bad.
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Oh boy.
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So you don't have to believe Steve.
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And I don't.
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But he has another reason why he's still right.
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Okay.
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I'm now at the stage where I'm willing to risk some money to have a point.
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All right.
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So I'm willing to, I'm now willing to risk as of yesterday.
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I just put out an offer to say, Gavin, I'm willing to bet you a million dollars that
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you're a liar.
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So I'm risking a million dollars.
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You don't have to believe me at all in my analysis in what the evidence showed.
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All you have to believe is that there's some millionaire who is willing to risk a million
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dollars that he's right.
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So he probably thinks he's right.
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And I can guarantee you, Gavin Newsom is not going to take my bet.
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No way.
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No shit.
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Ah, wow.
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Yeah.
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What a great bet.
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Yeah.
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The governor of California is not going to dignify this bullshit.
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Yeah.
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I'm going to take all million dollar bets from now on.
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Anybody want to bet me anything for a million dollars?
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This was on November 16th, he's saying this, and this got bumped up to 5 million.
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And then on November 18th, this is an update on his, uh, his sub stack quote, I've raised
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my offer to name your price in a private email to Jennifer Newsom.
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No response so far.
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Wow.
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Unlimited money for a blank piece of paper.
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I'm impressed.
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We'd make the Guinness book of world records for highest price ever paid for a blank piece
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of paper.
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Oh my God.
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He sent Kevin Newsom's wife an email.
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These harassing family members now and being like, I'll give you any amount of money.
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Wow.
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You know what?
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In order to debate me in order to disbelieve this, you would have to have an operating
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premise with, I mean, I'm sure no evidence that rich people are willing to blow a lot
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of money on stupid ideas.
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You would have to believe something so insane that no one could ever believe that a rich
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person would blow their money on a stupid thing.
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Never.
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Oh boy.
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So, uh, we have one last clip here and it's, uh, it's Steve explaining exactly how this
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bet would go.
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Okay.
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And as you're listening to this, imagine, imagine a world where a sitting governor would
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engage with this bullshit.
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These are the steps that are going to, if, if the bet is taken, this is how it will play
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out.
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I just imagine a governor of California deciding, I'm going to get involved with this.
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We're getting some great fanfic.
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That's what I'm hearing.
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Okay.
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Here we go.
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So dumb.
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I'm offering him million dollars.
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All he has to do is give me a piece of paper that lists all the doctors that he talked
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to since, um, uh, for the purposes of discussing vaccine injury from the time that he got vaccinated
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to 21 days later, I don't want to know anything else.
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That's it.
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Just the list of doctors and on that piece of paper is the permission that he grants
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to those doctors.
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And he orders those doctors to discuss with me any conversations relating to vaccine injury.
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Now if Gavin Newsom is telling the truth, he'll give me a blank sheet of paper and I
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will give him a check for a million dollars.
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Now to me, that's a deal that most people shouldn't refuse.
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He's revealing nothing about any of his personal medical information.
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The piece of paper is blank and he gets a check for a million dollars.
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And you've got, you're a well-known, you know, uh, the tech guy, you've got plenty of money.
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So what's stopping him?
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Well, what's stopping him is he's not telling the truth.
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And that's why he won't accept my bet because when he, if he's telling the truth, he's going
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to hand me a piece of paper that is not blank.
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And if the piece of paper isn't blank, you know immediately that he lied to people.
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So basically it's not engaging with this stupid bet is proof for Steve that he's right.
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Yeah.
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And that's ridiculous.
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Uh, and, and essentially, you know, the reason you'd never take talk to even even talk to
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this guy is because what he's doing is essentially engaging in blackmail, but without leverage.
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It's like, cause if you do give him a blank piece of paper, that's not going to be the
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end of it.
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No.
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It's going to be that if you give into the demands of a blackmailer, they're going to
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continue the blackmailing relationship.
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Yeah.
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It's not like we're done.
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Right.
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Yeah.
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This is going to be a thing where, Oh, you've given me a blank piece of paper, but what
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if I were to tell you, I know you saw a doctor.
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It's it's fucking stupid.
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It's it's pointless to engage with this nonsense, but it plays for PR stuff in the right wing
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media.
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You know, like you can say, Oh, if you, if his conscience was clean, you'd have no problem.
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I give him a million dollars.
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Sure.
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Sure.
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Sure.
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Sure.
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What's what's fun about that is that even a reasonable, like conservative who buys into
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this as being a good idea would never take that bet.
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It's a stupid person who's like, Oh, you're going to pay up one.
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You're not.
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No.
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And two, there's no strings attached to this.
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Sure.
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Sure.
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You fucking liar.
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Yeah.
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Even it's so weird that they'll believe it in the abstract, but in the, in the personal,
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they would never believe that even best case scenario.
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It's still not good.
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Like, okay, you got a million dollars, but you had to publicly engage and justify and
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sort of give credibility to, uh, someone like Steve as being worth your time and engagement.
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Oh yeah.
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And that alone is publicity that Steve couldn't buy for his sub stack.
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Yeah.
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Which is why he would never accept it from somebody who doesn't have that to offer him.
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You know, he's never going to accept this bet from somebody from the CDC or the FDA
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because why would he, they're not going to give him the juice, but if it's a Newsome
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or if it's somebody on TV or if it's somebody like that who he can turn it into a spectacle
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around, then of course, yeah, that's what he's going to do.
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And he's not going to pay up on that fucking back.
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Probably not.
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But maybe, I mean, he's conceivably quite rich.
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Yeah.
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And he's also insane.
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Clearly.
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It does seem that way.
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Yeah.
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I mean, the food was, uh, gross in a number of ways.
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I think, I think, you know, you see, you see a lot of pretty explicit, uh, chauvinism,
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uh, homophobia, uh, just, just outright bigotry all over the place.
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Just really ticking those boxes.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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Um, and it sucks.
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It's hard to believe why people want him off the air, Dan.
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Yeah.
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It's hard to understand why people would be like, you suck.
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You gotta go.
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You suck.
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You suck.
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Go away.
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Uh-huh.
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Go away.
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Uh, Jordan, we'll be back.
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Indeed we will.
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For another episode in the near future.
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But until then, we have a website.
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We do.
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It's knowledgefight.com.
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Yes.
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We are also on Twitter.
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We are on Twitter.
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It's at knowledge underscore fight and at go to bed Jordan.
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Yep.
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We'll be back.
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But until then, I'm Neo.
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I'm Leo.
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I'm DZX Clark.
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I'm Daryl Rundus.
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And now here comes the sex robot.
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Andy in Kansas.
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You're on the air.
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Thanks for holding.
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Hello, Alex.
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I'm a first time caller.
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I'm a huge fan.
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I love your work.
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I love you.