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Andy in Kansas, you're on the air, thanks for holding

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Hello Alex, I'm a first time caller, I'm a huge fan

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I love your room

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knowledgefight

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knowledgefight.com

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I love you

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Hey everybody, welcome back to Knowledgefight, I'm Dan

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I'm Jordan

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We're couple dudes, like to sit around, worship at the altar of Selene and talk a little bit about Alex Jones

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Oh indeed we are Dan

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Jordan

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Dan?

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Jordan

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I have a quick question for you

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Yes

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What's your bright spot today?

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My bright spot today Jordan is it's the spookiest of all days

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We're recording this on Halloween

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You can't hear this because, you can't see it because we're recording this

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It's an audio thing but I'm in full costume

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Oh yeah, I've dressed as a druid during Samhain, I've been, I went all the way back to the beginning

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Yeah, I'm Frankenstein's monster, we're just sitting here

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We're just going for it

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And it's like, we got together to record this podcast

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No one around

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Foolish, a lot of wasted effort but it feels good

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You know it's funny, it was a little bit like a gift of the magi thing, I told you not to wear a costume

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and you told me not to wear a costume and then we both showed up in costumes, what a silly thing

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Yeah

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Yep, I like Halloween as much as I like any other holiday

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I don't like scary things but I do, I've always had a real, the audience is not going to be

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surprised to hear this, a soft spot for candy and it's a candy-based holiday and I'm thrilled for that

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That's true

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I'm excited for tomorrow, the candy to be on sale

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Right, and unlike the other candy holiday, Valentine's Day, you don't have to enjoy anyone else's company

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Sure, there's no expectation, if you want to just turn off your porch light, you don't have to worry

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You don't have to say anything to anyone

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You don't have a responsibility to give these kids candy, you can just keep it all to yourself

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When I was growing up my parents thought Halloween was evil, so we would legit shut off all of our

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lights and go into a back room so no one could stop by and trick or treat

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Yeah

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Yeah

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I know that this is well-trod territory and probably even a little bit hacky but

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I really hated the guy down the street who would like act like a corpse on his porch

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Oh yeah

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And just be totally still and then

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Yeah, yeah, yeah

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Fuck that guy

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Yeah, what's your problem?

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Yeah, I remember the exact like path to that guy's house from my house and I'm like nah

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What do you get out of this?

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I guess he gets the knowledge that he has scarred hundreds of children literally

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to the point where they remember the pathway to his home

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Yeah, at age 37

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Still like I gotta avoid that fucking house

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Fuck that guy

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So how about you? What's your bright spot?

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My bright spot, Dan, is I recently got the new James Blake album

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It came out a few weeks ago

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Sure

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Fantastic

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Great

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It might be his best album

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I don't know anything about James Blake

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I thought you were gonna say James Bond

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No, James Blake, he's a British dude who does what you would call like almost a rhythm and dub

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You know like imagine a pure toned breathy voice over really slowed down dub music

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Okay

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It's very strange

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I'm hearing words

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It is really good

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It's really good

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It's difficult to describe but it's really good

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It sounds interesting but a lot of the words you're using to describe it

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I also would need you to define them

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Yeah, yeah, yeah

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Let me put it this way

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Have you ever heard Send It On by D'Angelo?

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Sure

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Oh my god

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It's one of the greatest songs ever made

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Of course

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Okay, fine, then never mind

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All right

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Just listen to the song

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Fine

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Yeah

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Jordan, today we are checking in on October 29th, 2021

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My check

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It is, you know, it's Friday's episode from last week

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Sure

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We're in the present

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We thought, hey, let's look into it

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It's kind of like me got my arm behind my back here twisting my arm because I want to have a spooktacular

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I want to have a Halloween spooktacular

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But here we are in the present day

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Oh

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We'll just have to live with it

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All right

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But first, let's take a little moment to say hello

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Some new wonks out there

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Oh, that's a great idea

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So first, Dan and Jordan never mentioned my mailbag gift of green Russian soda

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I hope it was still enjoyed

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I think it was

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I seem to recall

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I don't remember

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Sorry about that

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Yeah, sorry

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I'm a policy wonk

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Thank you, though

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Thank you, you're a policy wonk

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Next, Bill from Toronto

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Got a nice message from Bill from Toronto

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It turns out he heard about the show from a neighbor, which that's community

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That's what we're talking about

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I've never considered that a neighbor might give me any recommendations for anything

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Especially a weirdo podcast

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Yeah, exactly

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So thank you to Bill in Toronto and honorarily your neighbor

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You're both policy wonks

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I'm a policy wonk

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Thank you

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Next, I've been working on the railroad

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Thank you so much, you're now a policy wonk

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I'm a policy wonk

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Also, this one's gonna be tough for me to

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That took a lot to resist

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All the live-long day?

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It took a lot for me not to follow up with it

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Remarkable restraint

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I know

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So I think I'm gonna probably butcher this pronunciation but I'm gonna try

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Next, makanificent

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It's a maleficent kind of thing

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Oh, makanificent?

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Something like that

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Makanificent?

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Uh-huh

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You're now a policy wonk

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I'm a policy wonk

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Thank you very much

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Thank you

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And we got two technocrats out there in the mix to shout out

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So first, Lizzie Bones

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Thank you so much, you're now a technocrat

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And Tim, happy belated birthday Trevin Clay

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Thank you so much, you are now a technocrat

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I'm a policy wonk

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Crikey, mate, that's fantastic

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Have yourself a brew

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How's your 401k doing, bro?

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All right, we gotta go full tilt boogie on this, Watson, all right?

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Let's just get down to business

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We ain't making that money off that heroin

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Why are you pimps so good?

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My neck is freakishly large

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I declare info war on you

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Thank you so much

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Yes, thank you very much

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I also like how Tim snuck in that birthday shout out by pretending it was a nickname

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Sneaky

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There's always a loophole

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Anytime we try and close one door, they open a window

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Yeah, I mean, I was really committed to the whole thing of no more birthday shout outs

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But it turns out

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You're a traitor, Dan

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Oh god, no

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This is it

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This is the end

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I like

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This is the end for us

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I like to look across the table and see a miserable druid

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All right, so here we go

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We're gonna start at the beginning of the episode

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And Alex has some some covid related news

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Surprised

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Heart attack related covid news

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So let me just show you this little stack

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We'll go into this more

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This is just today from all over local newspapers around the country

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Doctors remember, they're telling you to remember

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Nobody now suddenly is too young for a heart attack

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They say suddenly above 12 year olds have all been having heart attacks all over the western world

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And they say we don't know why in NPR stories and ABC stories

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And these others just say it's just a new thing just get used to

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Oh, and strokes and blood clots in the lungs

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But no one knows what it is

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So this is a headline that Alex is reading from the Times of India

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Not from local papers all over the United States

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That is unsurprising

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And he's entirely misrepresenting the point of the article

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Alex wants this to be something related to covid vaccine side effects

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But that's not what the article is actually even about at all

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This is more or less an op-ed about the fact that

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While we often think of heart attacks as something that only affects older people

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Younger folks do experience heart attacks and heart conditions too

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Just at a lower rate

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And the general reasons cited in this article have nothing to do with vaccines

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Quote

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While conventionally vices were blamed for heart disease

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Youth in their 20s and 30s today face the risk of developing heart disease

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Due to their sedentary lifestyle, stress, and diet

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If you read the article

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I would have added pollution

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But I'm gonna guess the Times of India doesn't want to add that one

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I want to add that one on there

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You could throw that in if you like

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Yeah, maybe

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If you read the article, this discussion is not about a phenomenon we're just seeing since covid

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Quote

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In the last seven and a half years, Goa Medical College has treated about 7400 heart patients

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Of these, 4.1% were less than 40 years of age and 21% under 50

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This article even discusses that this has an issue that's particularly more severe in the Goa area in

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India because, quote, a high incidence of diabetes among the Goan population could be one of the

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reasons why more people in their youth are detected with a heart condition

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Sure

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The reality is just that even before covid vaccines were a thing that we knew would exist

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Or even covid was a thing we knew would exist

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The rates of heart attacks in young people were on the rise

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Although Americans are suffering fewer heart attacks as a whole

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The rate of heart attacks for people under 40 is increasing

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That was from a Cleveland Clinic article published on April 26th, 2019

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The article discusses many of the same variables as that Times of India article

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of sedentary lifestyles, compounded issues from diabetes, and increases in general stress among

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the population

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This is just a subject that the medical community has been discussing and paying attention to for

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years

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Alex is just taking headlines that reflect a long-standing concern and lying about them

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to use them as a weapon in his anti-vax propaganda

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All of a sudden people have been studying this thing for the past several 5, 7, 10 years

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and have started saying things like pay attention to it and I mean it's covid obviously

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Obviously

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It's obviously covid

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It predates covid but yeah

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I mean they're 10 years behind

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Sure

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Yeah

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Great

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Yeah

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So anyway Alex has more on this headline and then he digs even deeper into a sad hole

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Oh get there

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Sad reported hole

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Get into that hole

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But I've got the articles here and the screenshots from around the world

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But when I see a screenshot I just don't believe it

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I went and followed it through on all these and these are indeed everywhere

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In fact

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Friend of mine sent me a text from Dallas and it's on the side of the buses there

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But here it is

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Doctors remember now nobody's too young for heart attack

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Wow it's a new and improved wonderful thing

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And what do they report all over the western world?

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Massive increases in heart attacks and blood clots in the young

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Oh spotted in Whitby on Durham Transit

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Are they normalizing this?

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So Alex there at the end he's reporting on a meme that one of his employees saw on Twitter

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This is a picture of a bus with a decal on the side saying quote

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Kids have strokes to know the warning signs

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This has a caption that Alex was reading that was added to the image that says quote

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Spotted in Whitby on Durham Transit are they normalizing on what's to come?

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So the argument is that like more kids are gonna have strokes

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Right

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And they're trying to make that normal

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Right

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So if I understand correctly somebody probably in Whitby or nearby

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Right a globalist in Whitby

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Took a picture of a completely innocuous

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Just hey health is important

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Sure

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And then turned it into a right-wing meme to disparage the COVID vaccine

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And tell everybody they're gonna die

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And to sort of demonstrate or allow people like Alex to demonstrate

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Right

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They're telling you that kids have strokes in order to make you not worried when kids do have strokes

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Right yeah they can just turn anything into bullshit can't they?

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And this is bullshit for a couple of reasons

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The first is that this picture that's used in the meme is undated

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So honestly who's to say if it's even a recent image

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Could have been a decal that was run for a public health campaign in 2017 for all we know

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No it couldn't have

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The second reason is that that decal it includes a link to people who paid for the ad

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It's an organization called Achieving Beyond Brain Injury

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This group was started by two mothers who met because their sons had strokes early in life

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Which prompted them to create an advocacy and awareness group to help other parents

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Who were in the situation that they were in

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And help parents know the warning signs as the bus decal said

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Rebecca De Mano's son was 14 when he had a stroke on April 12th 2018

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Nadine Vermoulian's son was 10 when he had a stroke on February 28th 2015

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Along with raising awareness and trying to help families with children affected by strokes

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The organization is really about the bigger picture of youths who have suffered brain related injuries

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For instance many of their scholarship recipients this year had trauma related brain injuries

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Like Eric who was hit by a bus

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Strokes in young people it's not a new phenomenon

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And the work these mothers are trying to do with Achieving Beyond Brain Injury

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Is really admirable stuff because there's a very important variable

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That's brought up in this 2015 article in the journal Vascular Health and Risk Management

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Quote, strokes in young adults are reported as being uncommon

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Comprising 10 to 15 percent of all stroke patients

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However compared with strokes in older adults

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Stroke in the young has disproportionately large economic impact

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By leaving victims disabled before their most productive years

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So anyway this organization dedicated to helping make sure that children

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Who suffered brain injuries don't get left behind

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They put an ad on a bus in Canada and somebody took a picture of it

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Which is now being used as anti-covid vaccine propaganda

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It's honestly just repulsive behavior from top to bottom

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And the transmission point of Alex reporting on this meme without any context about the organization

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That put the decal on the bus it's incredibly irresponsible

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And it's just disrespectful all around

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Yeah you know sometimes when they're inventive

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Towards their bullshit it can be kind of fun or interesting

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In this situation this is just fucking sad

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Yeah

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This is sad all across the board

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Everybody doing things is sad

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The exploitation is sad

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It's lazy

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Everything is bad

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Yeah this is awful

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Yeah and the the group that's actually behind this billboard is from all

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Indications that I can find doing really important work

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Of course

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No it's

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And the only end result of this is maybe targeting them

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As being part of a conspiracy to normalize strokes

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Yeah you kill two birds with with one stone you know

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You get to make a conspiracy and then you get to bother people who are doing good

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That's exactly what the right wing wants all the time

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It's pretty disgusting

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Great

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So there have been some deaths recently and maybe maybe it's because of the covid vaccine

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Oh hey look at this guy though everything's okay this is the Times of India

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Biggest publication in the second most populous country in the world

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Puneeth

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Yep

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Rajkumar very popular A-list movie star over there in Bollywood

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He got his first dose of the covid-19 vaccine and then he got his second one recently

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And hey he's he's doing fine folks

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Oh no he died of a heart attack at uh 46 years old yesterday

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Oh oh but hey too many people right

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What?

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Weird

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That's a really odd way to end that

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It is

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Yeah

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So the passing of Puneeth Rajkumar is a sad bit of news

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He's a very popular actor and only 46 when he died from a heart attack

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Sure

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However Alex is lying and making shit up in order to use this

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dead man's memory as a prop for his anti-vex propaganda

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You see Puneeth Rajkumar was a huge star so it struck me as a little weird to imagine

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that he was just now getting the vaccine

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He's also a really public face for healthy living so this didn't sit right with me at all

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If you look into this for even a second you'll find that he got his first dose of the vaccine

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on April 7th 2021

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I know this because he tweeted a picture of himself getting vaccinated

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Hmm yeah but you can't believe screenshots like that

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We just saw there was was there a date on there?

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Oh I mean it had to have been uh prior to April 7th 2020

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He can't time travel

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All right well now we're talking

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Yeah uh so I also know that by June Puneeth was helping the Indian government by appearing in

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PSAs about the importance of public health measures including getting vaccinated

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Sure

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I guess I can't definitively prove when he got his second dose but Alex

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is presenting no evidence and he's expecting me to believe that one of the highest paid

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actors in India got the first shot in April then worked as a vaccination awareness ambassador

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and somehow didn't get the second dose until late October

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You get busy!

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She doesn't fly

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You get busy Dan! That's it's life

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Right yeah also a small point but not every movie made in India is a Bollywood movie

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Bollywood tends to refer to the movie industry in Mumbai which was formerly known as Bombay

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Bombay Hollywood makes Bollywood

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Praneeth Rajkumar was from the south of India and he was more associated with the

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Kannada movie scene and he was uh insane oh oh also the other the other thing that

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he was known for was being the son of the insanely famous actor Dr. Rajkumar

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He was an actor but he went by doctor and incidentally he died of a heart attack which

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illustrates a family history and factor for Puneeth to have you know a higher incidence

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or higher likelihood of having a heart attack

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Seems like there are many many many explanations and zero of them are the vaccine

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Right Alex is a monster he's just willing to make shit up about people who die as long

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as the story of their death is something he can profit off of

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It's a real piece of shit real piece of shit

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Yeah man this is harsh

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Yeah

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This is harsh out the gate

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Yeah and it gets worse

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Jesus

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Oh hey how about that top radio host he got the shot he's dead of heart attack too but

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that's just yesterday too but hey no big deal

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Radio legend dies suddenly and reads his second shot and it goes on but hey let's not listen

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to that that's all just anecdotal

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It's not even anecdotal it's just not true

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So Alex problem

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He's lying about another beloved celebrity's death in order to make this shitty argument better

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In this case it's Australian broadcaster Russell Wolf who died in his sleep on October 26th

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At this point I don't believe that the exact cause of death is public or known so I can't

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really speak to that. Anti-vax protesters have used Wolf's death as an argument against the

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vaccine but Alex is also just making shit up. Wolf himself tweeted that he got the second dose of the

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AstraZeneca vaccine on August 19th over two months prior to his passing. There's no evidence at all

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to suggest that his death and the vaccination are related in any way this is just disgusting stuff

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I'm listening to this episode and I'm like I want to kick the episode

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Yeah man that's that's who how do you do that?

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I don't know

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That's sometimes it's like you intellectually I know he's a narcissistic psychopath who has

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no care for other yeah you know it's just him it's just him right but I can't like emotionally

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get into a place where I'm like you know what I'll do I'll lie about this person's death

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Yeah

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To kill more people

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Yeah like what like how would Alex feel if someone lied about like one of his loved ones

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death or something like that in order to advance some kind of spurious argument

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Ah I mean

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It's just it's repulsive behavior and it you know what I was experiencing this and I'm like

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all right the time window to have a spooktacular is pretty short

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It's not long

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Yeah I mean like even this episode is coming out in November

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It's coming out the day after the spooktacular has already ended

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Now I might be able to release this episode a little bit early so some people can listen to it

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Trying to grab a little bit trying to grab a little bit of that nighttime Halloween magic

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Right maybe some people you know we have an audience that's adults maybe some people who

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don't have kids they might want to enjoy a Halloween episode so here's where I would

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Put on the monster mash and our episode simultaneously they sync up it's Pink Floyd

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all over again

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You gotta listen to the monster fuck

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This is the point where if I was a professional I would add a lightning sound effect and then

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So I was creeping around on Alex's website

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I was going through like old screenshots on the Wayback Machine and the archives

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and I found an interview that is long buried that is I did I'd never seen this before

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This page is almost inaccessible very difficult to find

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Okay

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This is an interview with a guy named David Benoit and here's the title of the interview

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Okay

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Author of 14 things witches hoped parents never find out about the occult and the

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real meaning of Halloween bringing America to its knees

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Well Dan we've got a winner

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Yes we do

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So fuck Alex Jones on the 29th

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Holy shit

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Yeah thank god you were really getting me scared

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I know

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It was a spooktacular for me

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Yeah yeah so we're gonna go back to Halloween 2002

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Oh that's the shit

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October 30th 2002 we have Alex Jones having an interview with a guy who's written a book

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about the 14 things witches don't want you to know

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I want to know exactly what each 14 are

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Can I actually disabuse you of that notion?

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Damn it

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You will not find out what these 14 things are

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Will I find out any of them?

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No come on

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I mean look keep keep notes

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Okay

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Maybe you might you might find some things

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All right okay

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So here's here's where Alex begins the proceedings

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Okay

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It's real radio folks going wherever the truth leads us exposing the globalists and all their

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criminal activities and every time I follow one of their rat holes I find uh the occult

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Whether it's Skull and Bones or Bohemian Grove or what we see with the rock and roll music in

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our society glorifying the devil it's a real thing but now we see Day of the Dead in California

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the Aztec holiday of human sacrifice with black altars being worshipped we hear about uh these

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different occult religions exploding meanwhile being promoted in the public schools and we're

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told Christianity is a bad thing and don't talk about Jesus folks don't let the new world order

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cram you into a box

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Yeah man so uh I guess you can't evangelize at school or you can

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Yeah

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I mean when I was in school they had the like meet you at the flag thing you know

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Oh they did non-stop prayer where I was

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Yeah there was there was quite a bit of it it's just not the you know the school isn't

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supposed to have like coordinated organized religious activities

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Yeah

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Um yeah so I guess it's the new world order

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Oh uh yeah you know I was gonna say that uh he shouldn't bring Christianity into it because

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Christianity seems to be the one trying to terrify people about imaginary witches

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whereas witches are just kind of fine

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Yeah they're just hanging out

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They're just hanging out

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Yeah

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They can't actually do magic Dan

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We don't know that

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Yes we do

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Harry Potter is a guidebook

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Damn it

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Correct!

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Um so I would probably actually be a little bit uncomfortable doing this episode if we

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hadn't made some progress in the 2003 stuff because we know that in 2003 he does believe

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he's fighting the literal devil

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Literal Christian devil

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He's hiding it a little bit more than than he does in the present

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It's more oblique

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Yeah and we also know that he fucking thinks that Harry Potter and witches are real

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So with those pieces of information we can now do this this Halloween uh uh uh interview

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I wish this whole episode was available but it's just this interview

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Oh that's disappointing

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Unfortunately

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Oh because he's already yelling about rock and roll I want to see how does he feel about Geddy

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Lee how does he feel about Rush you know like give me more specifics on who's the devil worshipers

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To be fair they're prog they're less rock and roll

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Yeah well that's true

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Alex probably thinks that everybody who's into prog is a weirdo

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That's true no demon worshiping just what do you guys listen to?

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Actually no they're probably animists because they have the song about the trees

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That's true

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There's unrest in the forest there's trouble with the trees

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Yeah and all the music videos would prove they worship the devil in some way

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Sure

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Yeah

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Limelight that was all about the devil

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All about the devil

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But then again I will choose free will Alex loves free will

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Yeah but so does the devil we wouldn't be able to follow the devil if it weren't for free will

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Right good point

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Yeah that that is a good point Dan I've made it

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So Alex has this guest David Benoit

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Okay

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Now I am joined today by a man who came how I recommended my local pastor here in Austin

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David Benoit and we've got a link to his website on infowars.com

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He has since the mid-80s been focusing in on the occult and studying Halloween and the rest of it

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And you can go to the Encyclopedia Britannica and read that it's a human sacrifice day of Sam

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Hayne in the Germanic and Visigoth and Gaul kingdoms in western Europe thousands of years

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ago right through to modern day of course in England

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I don't I don't know if all the traditions of a thousand years ago continue to today

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Anyway I was curious about this cat David Benoit so I decided to look into him

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Let's take a look

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Here's what his bio says

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Okay

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Quote in June of 1984 David was led of the Lord to establish glory ministries as an evangelist

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When David began the emphasis of glory ministries was to expose the truth of the damaging effects

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of rock music on society the only solution being regeneration by Jesus Christ

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Man he was only a few years away from correctly hating rap music

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One of the things that's so fun about that backstory is that it's really specific

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This is June 1984 so we can definitely tell what was on the charts back then

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See how you know the music industry is really into themselves so they they leave a lot of evidence

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Yeah what are we talking about we got uh 84?

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June 84

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I'd say Flock of Seagulls is up there

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Nope

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Top 25

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I don't think so

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Okay

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So three songs made it to number one in the charts in that month

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All right

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June 1984

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Okay

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You're never going to be able to guess that

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Okay

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Let's hear it for the boy from the Footloose soundtrack

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Let's hear it for the boy

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Okay fine I why did I ever have hope in humanity

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The Footloose soundtrack is number one

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Okay

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Let's hear it for the boy

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All right fine

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Not even Footloose

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Not even Kenny Loggins

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Fine fine fine

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Denise Williams

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Uh not the other song what are the other songs made at number one

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It was Time After Time by Cyndi Lauper

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Oh well I mean yeah can't go wrong

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The Reflex by Duran Duran

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None of that shit sounds too satanic so maybe you should look at May

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Because maybe what happened in May caused him to jump off the ledge

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Sure I mean he's not checking the charts every week you know

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But he probably has a sense of

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He's got a vibe

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Anyway uh in May uh here are the things that made it to number one

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Lionel Richie was making waves with Hello

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Oh that was great

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Hello

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Yeah yeah

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Phil

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Later on used as a hook for uh one of the best Busta Rhymes songs

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Uh give me some o

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No hello

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Oh Phil Collins was setting the world on fire

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Doing three weeks at the top of the charts with Against All Odds

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Jesus Christ

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Take a look at me now

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I'm I'm gonna be honest with you I don't like Phil Collins

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I I do

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But

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I believe you

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We can agree to disagree

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We can

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So I decided to look at the entire Hot 100 from the weeks relevant to this possible conversion

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And here are the songs that I think are possible that made David into a devil fear

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Okay

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Sister Christian by Night Ranger

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Okay I can see Night Ranger do it

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It's got Christian in the name

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Night Ranger could do it though

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Yeah

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Yeah they've got the skills

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I want to break free by queen because Freddie Mercury is gay

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Yeah but I mean that's just too good

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Even in even in the 80s everybody hated gay people but they're like Freddie fucking Mercury

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I don't know I think David's the kind of guy who could be afraid of a lot

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And then here's the only other one I could think of maybe

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And that's the Heart of Rock and Roll by Huey Lewis and the News

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And that's because the Heart of Rock and Roll is still beating which implies that it's a zombie

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Right that's true that's true

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And that's of the devil

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If if Huey Lewis is the one who's like we can't I gotta stop the devil music

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Then we're then you're too far gone

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Yeah

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You're too far gone

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So as I looked a little bit more into this guy's bio I found this nugget

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Quote

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David has the rare ability to communicate his message to young people as well as to parents

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Using humor and interesting facts

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So that that might bias me going into this interview

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That I'm expecting someone with humor and good facts

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He better have humor and good facts

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Who I think could connect with the kids

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You know who doesn't ever connect with the kids?

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A Christian who says they can connect with the kids with humor and good facts

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And who's scared of the devil rock

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And who's scared of music

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Just say you're scared of all music

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Yeah why not

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Yeah I'm just gonna put on some Bach

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Oh my god is that a bassoon?

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Run

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I don't do wind winds larger than three feet

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Alex is uh real scared and he has some stories about Halloween

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That I don't know I need a citation

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It's a human sacrifice day of Samhain in the Germanic and Visigoth and Gaul kingdoms

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In western Europe thousands of years ago

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Right through to modern day of course in England

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Oh and this is what's being celebrated

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It is a night of wickedness

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Children are kidnapped throughout this week

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And then their dead bodies are found and put in the back of the newspaper

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In the days after Halloween years later they find their little skeletons in many cases

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This is a serious issue

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So this is running rampant apparently

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Yeah

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Kids are being kidnapped in the lead up to Halloween

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Right right right

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And then their little skeletons are found and it's covered up in the back of the newspaper

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It's so sad

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But the idea of little skeletons coming back to life on Halloween is a little cute

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You got to admit that

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Mm-hmm

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Jumping up out of the ground just kind of being like hey

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Sure

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Yeah

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I think that if this is covered up in the back of the newspaper

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Alex should be able to find those articles from the back of the newspaper

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And put some pieces together to make a specific case

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Can you cover something up if you publish it in your newspaper?

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Hidden in plain sight baby

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Hey now I understand why you would say hidden in plain sight

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Because you think it's in plain sight and people don't pay attention to it

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So it must be hidden

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However it is still there

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It is not hidden whatsoever

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Yeah

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I just need more information from Alex

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I think this might just be a fear thing

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Yeah yeah

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And I do want to make sure everybody knows there is no shame in pronouncing it Samhain

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Sure

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It's written like that I get it

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Fine

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I never heard it out loud until I was like 15 or whatever

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Of course you don't know how it's pronounced

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Uh-huh

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Not your fault

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Sure

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Not your fault

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Sure

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Yeah

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Now there is shame in giving kids those like weird orange or brown wrapped taffy things

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Absolutely

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That are like peanut butter

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Those are disgusting

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Yeah

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If you're gonna give one of those kids that's you might as well put a razor blade in there

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Because it's just as garbage

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I would I would rather almost because I probably wouldn't eat the razor blade

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And then I'd have a lawsuit

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If I have one of those peanut butter candies I'm just gonna be mad

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Didn't people think they were putting razor blades in apples for a while?

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I think that was kind of uh yeah one of the the folklore

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Yeah yeah yeah

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The old wives tales as it were

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How funny is that somebody's like kids are getting hurt because they're eating apples on Halloween

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Sure

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Yeah yeah good call

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Yeah I can't I can't think of a single person that I know who would have gotten an apple even

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like a like a caramel apple or something

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The best apple in the world

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And not throw it away

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Just been like this is the wrong night for this get the fuck out of here

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I want a Twix

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If this doesn't have a razor blade in it I don't care

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So uh you might ask

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Yeah

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I think a lot of people ask

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Yeah

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What's up with Halloween?

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Uh

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What's the deal?

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What is the deal?

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Well Benoit has some has some thoughts

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Oh

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Right now though we're joined by David Benoit of Glory Ministries

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Uh it's great to have you on the worldwide broadcast

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Thank you very much Alex I'm glad to be here brother

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Absolutely uh Halloween what is it what's it all about?

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Well you know the basic premise of Halloween is that they which is believed that the veil

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between the natural and the supernatural is that it's sinister during that time so they

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can communicate with the dead and I find it quite interesting that it used to be that

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Halloween you could tell when Halloween was coming because you'd hear see horror films

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and death movies and stuff but now it's 24 hours a day seven days a week around our country

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and uh talking to the dead is not something that's new it's

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something that even Saul practiced uh went to the Witch of Endor

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So now we have murder, blood, rape, hell-edge 24-7 all over television being desensitized

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24-7

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And so we hear about all these wicked things happening and it it's okay

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unless they want our guns then they'll play the fear up

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Wait wait wait wait wait

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Wow that was it that was a sharp turn

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Yeah that was strange

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I got whiplash from that one

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So wait you're mad at the witches about second amendment issues

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I think we just got hit with I think I just got t-boned with an idea

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I do think that it's pretty impressive to be able to combine a conversation about how

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witches can talk to other worlds on Halloween and gun rights

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How in the world how are we how is everybody just talking about it like

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well witches believe that it's when the veil between uh things and everybody's talked to

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spirits before that's just a regular old thing yeah

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Saul talked to the Witch of Endor

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None of this is real!

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I just had an interesting thought if you are somebody who legitimately believes that

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witches are around and they can do magic you should know that your guns not going to be

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effective against them like you should recognize that gun rights are meaningless if you're up

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against witches

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Um well I think uh

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What if the government got a team of witches like you're not going to be able to overthrow

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the government they can do magic you're now going to need to learn magic

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I really I really think that people don't quite understand what the implications of

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magic being real are

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Trust me I do I've thought about this

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I have thought about it quite a bit as well and it is uh it is very silly it's very silly

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No

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It's very silly I want to know which 14 things witches don't want me to know

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I think they don't want you to know that they are opposed to gun rights

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I imagine that I swear to god I would bet 500 bucks right now that the number one thing

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is that witches are real

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Yeah probably

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Yeah I would bet a million dollars

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I don't know if this guy's book is actually called like the 14 things or whatever

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Yeah

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14 simple rules for dating a witch

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14 habits of highly effective witches

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Yeah I don't know and based on his interview I don't think I would want to read a book by

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him anyway

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No I don't

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He seems afraid uh in this next globe of uh high school kids

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Well

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Well here's something I thought was interesting

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This is from San Mateo County Times and it's uh Friday September 27th 2002

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High school satanism club prompts parents outrage on themselves the satanic thought society

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Co-president of the club James Doolittle admits that he originally started the club with the

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friend Matt Heaney to rifle things a bit up a bit but now that the two juniors have studied

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the the teachings of Anton LaVey founded the satanic church they say that satanism helps

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people to express themselves it's satanism's purpose to turn man's back into the natural

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state not have to be corrupt by religion

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I saw a post zed article yesterday where it says the Wiccan religion is exploding in the

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public schools and being promoted how does Harry Potter and the deep occult teachings

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there how does this feed into this this explosion

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Oh no we're back on Harry Potter

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I 100% remember this I remember people shitting a brick about Wiccans

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Yeah

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How funny was that

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Yeah

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God and now he's just combining Harry Potter with Wiccans just being like hey if they believe

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magic they definitely can't tell the difference between Wiccans and Harry fucking Potter right

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Yeah I got nothing against people who are interested in something like Wicca or whatever

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I don't begrudge

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Hey I love Wiccraft

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I would argue though that these kids that this guy Benoit is talking about who had a satanism club

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Yeah

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They started it just to fuck with people

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Right

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He clearly said that just rifle things up a bit

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Literally said I wanted to fuck with people

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And then they found that they like had some good lessons in there or whatever

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Sure sure sure sure

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I'm gonna guess that that is a dismount from the club you know what I mean like

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I'm gonna guess that these guys are not satanists after graduation

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Right right right I would I would even go so far as to say that if someone in the first quote says

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we started this club to fuck with things and then in the second quote says we believe all of it now

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you might still be getting fucked with you moron

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It's possible

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Yeah

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And the presentation that Benoit wants to make is that they're saying they believe in all of it

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It's all wonderful

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And that's not even what that quote is saying

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No

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They did not say actually the devil's real and we love him

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Yeah yeah

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I am not worried about high schoolers having weird fun clubs

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Slippery slope Dan

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I don't care

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You let them you let high schoolers have one slippery slope fun club with the devil

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next thing you know they're reading critical race theory and it's all over for the rest of us

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I think that if I went to high school with them I might care you know like

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You think?

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Not much

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Yeah

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But it would be something that would be interesting to me

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Oh yeah

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Outside of that I don't care at all

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No no no

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So I went to Hickman High School in Columbia and like Rockbridge was the other high school

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If there was a satanism club over at Rockbridge I wouldn't care

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Yeah yeah yeah

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Not my business

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How many generations of adults freaking out about what isolated children are doing

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thousands of miles away from them is going to eventually be like oh maybe this is dumb

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This is a show in Texas where adults are talking about high schoolers in San Mateo

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California a place they probably didn't realize existed

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Perhaps in this situation those children are more adults than we

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Maybe

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Yeah

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At least these ding dongs

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Yep

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So anyway witches are protected by the government I don't know if you knew that

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Uh you have to understand that witchcraft is a 501c3 tax system status

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I'm sorry what now?

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It means you cannot discriminate you cannot hire or fire a person because you cannot fire

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a person because of their religious status if they say that they're a witch and they

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apply and you say I'm not going to hire you because you're a witch that's discrimination

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religious discrimination

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But with faith-based initiative if that goes through then the Christian church is allowed

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to hire witches

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Oh absolutely

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Okay all right

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Oh man to be a fly on the wall of people whose largest problem is witches

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Uh-huh getting jobs

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Getting jobs

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Yeah

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You're not even allowed to fire someone just because they say they're a witch

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Yeah I mean like you know the same rules that protect people who have uh religious beliefs

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or uh you know religious uh identifications like being a witch

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Right

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Are the exact same rules that protect people who are Christians

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Yeah it is it is wild how uh when a religion gets to put its boot on the neck of other

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religions they're like religious protections are terrible but when they've got the boot

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on their neck they go we need religious protection

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Yeah

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It's so weird

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And we're not getting it because of the witches

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It's because of the witches it's definitely not because of us

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Yeah

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Yeah

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So we get back to Harry Potter shockingly um this is I don't know if this is true because

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I don't remember Harry Potter

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Yeah

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I'm sorry if this is true but it just sounds really dumb

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And see here's the thing with Harry Potter is I've got a whole lot of stuff on Harry Potter

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as a matter of fact I've got a brand new book out entitled

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I've got a private investigator

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It's Unaware and I do talk about Harry Potter uh you know five of uh his four of his professors

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are dead and as a matter of fact I show in my presentation how easy it is for a child

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to go from Harry Potter's website all the way right into real witchcraft

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Wait wait wait wait wait wait wait wait wait wait wait wait wait wait wait wait wait wait

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Uh okay

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I know that some of them do die like Dumbledore does die

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Yes

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And like Snape dies right?

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Uh no

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Oh he kills Dumbledore

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Well Snape dies in the final book but he kills Dumbledore but because Dumbledore told him to

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he's actually secretly it's a whole thing

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Yeah

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Yeah there's a redemption arc

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The John Cleese ghost I remember from the first one

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Yeah yeah that one was great

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Yeah he's dead

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Uh he is

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Well is he

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I don't know

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We're four out of the five professors dead

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Well okay so

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I don't think they were

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No there's the curse is just that every dark arts professor can only be there for a year

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Right because Voldemort cursed the uh yeah

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So they so the yeah but I mean so the fuck what?

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Wait wait wait so four out of the five dark arts professors are dead?

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Yeah

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Oh

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Yeah they just die

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Right

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Yeah

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Yeah I don't but you can't have five dark arts professors at the same time

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No you cannot

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Yeah so actually one is still alive but will later be dead

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Furthermore furthermore if we're going to start treating this as a problem

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Yeah

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That four out of four of Harry Potter's professors are dead

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Right

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We must also admit that ghosts are available to just about anybody at any time

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Ghosts are in play

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Ghosts are in play so nobody's really dead

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I do think that it is strange that he's concerned about these characters being dead and like Harry

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being able to talk to the dead because you can easily go from Harry Potter's website to real

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witchcraft

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Oh yeah it takes no time

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And then you could talk to the dead

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That's how it works

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I'm I'm I'm here I'm frustrated I'm frustrated by this

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Why?

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Because I feel like

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I'm delighted

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If you could talk to the dead that's a no-brainer

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Right

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Christianity's not offering me talking to the dead I gotta wait for that shit fuck that

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Give me a couple weeks of a course I want the Harry Potter website

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You know

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I want the Wiccan book and I want to talk to the dead

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You know the problem with talking with the dead though is it's a crap shoot

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Like some of the people you're going to talk to are really boring

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Yeah that's true

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Just because you're dead doesn't make you more interesting than you were in life

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Like you you think it's all like these philosophers and like

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Tell us what the 1500s were like we worked 18 hours a day and then I died

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Yeah I I couldn't breathe

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What was the Industrial Revolution like choking to death

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Yeah I was a child laborer

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I died at 10 when a machine fell on me

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Thank you for creating our modern world

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Let's talk to let's talk to the dead

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I'm the kid who discovered maybe we should bring a canary with us into the coal mine

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Actually I think some of those kids might actually be interesting to talk to

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I'm just saying that some people are dullards

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Yeah yeah

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And that's fine

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Yeah yeah

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Didn't read too much when they were alive

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So look you know if you do if you don't read particularly Harry Potter

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Sure

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Sorry we're treating Harry Potter's real

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Okay

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Very much so

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Gotta get into the headspace of somebody who's like Harry Potter's real

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And at school if you don't read Harry Potter you fail

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Oh no

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I've talked to so many parents who told me that in their classroom they cannot eat

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If a child does not read Harry Potter books they could plug the prices

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You know when you walk into Barnes and Nobles right at the main entrance of most of the stores

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I've seen giant Harry Potter teaching aid kioses with just hundreds of books piled up there

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People grabbing them snatching them it's amazing

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Yeah sorry that it's a really popular book

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I mean yeah

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Oh also we can solve that Barnes and Noble problem a different way

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To their god

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Jesus Christ

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Yeah you got you got what you wanted

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No more displays at Barnes and Noble

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Yeah yeah

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Um I don't I don't know if I believe that if you don't read Harry Potter you flunk

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Because I don't think that any school I don't I find it tough

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To believe that a school would have Harry Potter be a mandatory piece of curriculum

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Do you mean considering the fact that apparently

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Half the parents at any given school believes that Harry Potter's real

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Well I mean also it's casual reading

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Yeah

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It's it's good for like you know a kid learning to read and stuff

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But there's but there's so many different examples of that that you could find

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It's not like this teaches math in a way that would like it's a textbook

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Yeah

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I find it difficult to believe that some teacher if some kid was like

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Look I'm not comfortable with reading this oh okay why don't you read this instead

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Right

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I can't see that happening

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You know what's ironic about that is that for so long you do think oh this is just light casual

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Reading but if you were to put that through a critical appreciation you'd be like oh she was

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A TERF all along of course I should have just I should have just paid attention

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It was not casual reading at all

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And four out of the five TERFs in the book are dead

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DEAD

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That's because a gun writes

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Yeah probably

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Yep

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So I I don't know I don't I look I didn't cut out that much from this interview

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Okay

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But this doesn't make sense even if you listen to the whole thing

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Okay

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You know I read a story not long ago about a missionary

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Who led this woman to the Lord and after leading her to the Lord then what he did was he

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She said would you please talk to my husband because he needs to be saved

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So every morning he'd sit there and drink a cup of coffee with the man and share the gospel with him

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Well he got deathly ill and they went and did blood work and the man said

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The doctor said to the missionary said are you working with rat poison?

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He said no I'm not

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He said then someone's rat poisoning you

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And what it was was the man he'd drink coffee with every day

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Would just put a little sprinkle of rat poison in his cup

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Not enough to change the taste

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Not enough to cause the man to die right there

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Just little doses

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And I thought that's exactly what our society is right now

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Little dose after little dose first it was bewitched

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Then Sabrina the Teenage Witch

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Bewitched

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The Friendly Ghost

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Sabrina the Teenage Witch

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Until now Buffy the Vampire Slayer and everything else charmed

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And they're all available for our children

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And they actively recruit children

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Well look I'm gonna be honest I mean I turn on the television at night

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We're talking nine o'clock at night and it's two women

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Conducting oral sex on a man in a hot tub on these date shows

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It's satanic stuff everywhere

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It's military on our streets

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I mean this country is really turning in to a satanic slash soviet-style system

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What what what?

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I like I get the metaphor that that that Benoit is

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Yeah

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I mean that story is obviously

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Death by a thousand cuts we can shorten it but that's fine

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That story is obviously like something you read in a Christian pamphlet or something

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100 percent

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To make you scared of non-believers

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Oh my god

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But the metaphor is like

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He put a razor blade in the apple of the man was trying to eat Dan

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Little by little you get poisoned

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And he's saying that bewitched is a little bit of poison

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Sabrina the Teenage Witch is a little bit of poison

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Yes

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Um I get that

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I just don't get the jump

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Military on the streets

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Well and and even the shorter jump I guess is people getting sucked off in a hot tub

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Yes

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Like that's the shortest jump there is

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Alex is mad about dating shows being a little bit over sexualized

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I don't know I don't know

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I guess that is also satanic to Alex which is strange

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I'm gonna have to go with if you are if you're telling me you know like

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It's bewitched and Sabrina the Teenage Witch

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It's all they're just it's the you don't get to participate in culture anymore

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It's not for you

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It's not for you

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Maybe sometimes you just don't get it

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Shouldn't you also be scared of like Touched by an Angel?

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Everything

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Like you should be scared of the Christian shows that are about supernatural shit

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I mean here's the problem

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The Christian shows that are about supernatural shit almost always wind up hand waving things away

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With a very similar explanation to It Was Magic

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Sure

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Yeah

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So there's a conspiracy afoot and that is that the schools want to give kids computers

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Now some people might think that this is because technology is advancing and computer literacy

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Is something that's pretty important for kids being able to navigate

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A lot of the aspects of the new modern world the interconnectedness

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Okay

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So this show is set in 1984 then we're afraid of rock and roll

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We're afraid of bewitched and we're afraid of computers

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Yep

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Okay so anyway there's a conspiracy about why schools are given computers

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Sure

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Well you know um one of the objectives of the school system is to make sure that every child

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Has a computer and that every child has access to the internet

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Well here's what they won't tell you Alex is that if you type into your search engine the word

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Witchcraft 341,000 sites pop up for these children

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If you type in necromancis talking to the dead 13,400 sites and by the way you've got John Edwards

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Who's supposed to talk to the dead

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If you don't believe that people can engage in necromancy

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It's not really that threatening for a kid to be exposed to it

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Like for instance when I was a kid I was exposed to the idea of telekinesis through the x-men

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Sure

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And holy shit I wanted to do it

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Right

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I tried and I couldn't and I realized it's a fictional ability

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And I was able to enjoy the x-men in a different way

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You you got it completely wrong the thing is the x-men didn't give you

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A road map to learning how to do that unlike Harry Potter which teaches you how to do magic

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I I would argue that Alex and David have not yet made it to the step

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That I crossed when I tried to do telekinesis

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I would say that yes

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I would say that they're delay they have a delay in this progression of understanding

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How old were you?

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When did x-men first came out? 2003?

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Yeah

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It was about last week

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It was about last week

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I think this is really stupid

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This is bad

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I think that if you you have to believe that kids can be turned into magic witches

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Yes

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In order to be worried about this

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Yes they can

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Yeah

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Anyway Alex like he's a guy who needs a respite you know like all this

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Well military's on the streets there's soviet style propaganda everywhere

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Blowies in a hot tub

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Blowies in a hot tub and witches walking everywhere

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Everywhere

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Government has them

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This is a guy who needs a break he needs a place that he can be safe

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Okay

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And then they also have another program on WGN, Beyond

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And these people are supposed to communicate with the dead

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Look I can't even sit down with my wife now and watch

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A national dog show because I like dog shows I like dogs

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Yeah

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And they'll go we're calling in the pet psychic now

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Absolutely

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So so

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What are we doing?

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Everything but the chance to understand is we're getting closer to the end

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of the ages it's kind of related to a football game or a basketball game

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You can always

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Sucking death over time yeah

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You better believe it you can see the intensity in the final inning

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You can see the intensity in the last two minutes of a basketball football game

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It intensifies because they know that they only have a short time to get it done

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So 19 years ago we were in the final innings of the game and they were really trying to you know

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It was intensifying the end was near

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Christians do realize we've been in the fourth quarter overtime for several thousand years

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Quite a while

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It's been a long overtime

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Yeah

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I would argue we should end it

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End it in a tie!

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Jesus hey God and Satan tied everything's fine we just move on it's like soccer rules

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It'll be an interesting proposal to try and work out

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I want to negotiate a draw

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I think it's a non-starter

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I'm gonna negotiate a draw between God and the devil

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I bet the devil would take that

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I think it's a great deal

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Yeah

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I think God should take it too

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Yeah he's gonna be a holdout

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Yeah what's the point

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So um hey you remember uh the man Michael Dukakis

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Yes I do remember a man in a tank looking very strong

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Do you think that he ever did anything overtly satanic?

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Um I don't know if getting in a tank is overtly satanic I think Alex is also wrong

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Yeah he likes tanks they're just big guns

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Yeah

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Uh no he did do one thing and maybe we forgot about this

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Hmm

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There I've got a woman that thought that I talked about in my presentation and uh she's a witch

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and uh from uh Laurie Cabot it was known as the official witch of Salem she was nominated

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the official witch of Salem by Michael Dukakis when he was running for the president of the

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United States of America he said it would be good for his political campaign to nominate a witch

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well America's really hurting when you have to nominate a witch to be married to one to get

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white out

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What?

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Well it's amazing but but getting back to this it's not just the Democrats

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No no as you know also it was very well known that uh Mrs. Reagan went to astrologers and

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and things like that as well

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Wow we got both sides from Alex he's above the left right paradigm

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Really really did it we really nailed it that time

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So what Benoit is talking about is actually true

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Laurie Cabot was named the official witch of Salem by Michael Dukakis back in 1977

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when he was the governor of Massachusetts

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Yeah of course there's official wizards of towns all over the world

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Of course

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This is fine

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Yeah so his decision was basically recognizing two things

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One there's a tradition of witch shit in Massachusetts and the northeast in general

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and two uh Cabot opened what she claims is the first witch shop in America uh back in the 70s

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So she's a historical monument as well

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Exactly

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Yeah

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Alex sells dumb pills if he wants to be mad at some lady selling incense and bath salts

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I guess that's a fun game for him to play but I just I mean shouldn't he be a witch

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or a warlock for these the magic that these pills do on your body

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I mean it's it's like being in like uh what like 1920 San Francisco and be like

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there's this man going around calling himself the king of America

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now sir this is a democracy how dare they if people begin to believe that he's the king

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well it's all a monarchy

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Yeah

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Like what are you doing

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There was a uh guy uh how uh houseless person a guy experiencing homelessness at the you know

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uh in Columbia and he wore a Burger King crown around and he called himself the king of Columbia

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Yeah

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And a lot of people would salute him and uh

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Totally

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Treat him like the king

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And just treat him yeah yeah yeah

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Yep

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That's a it's a yeah I mean

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And that did erode democracy

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I I well I mean here we are

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I I mean the reason that I moved to Chicago is that he had a hostile takeover of the mayor ship

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I can say I can say for sure that it is entirely his fault Citizens United

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went through the Supreme Court the way it did

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I had to flee after he had a coup

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He overthrew Darwin Heindman in a uh

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So Alex goes out to break here and he's talking about that he's had some run-ins with witches

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Oh sure

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Now based on what we know from his later talk we should know that he

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had a lot of run-ins with witches

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I mean he was a witch

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They tried to recruit him

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He slept with a lot of them

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Yup

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Yup

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Yup

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Honey potted by a bunch of

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He was honey potted by a bunch of satanic cheerleaders

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Talks about it a little bit differently back in uh 2002

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Unsurprising

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We'll stay there we'll hear about that all when we get back

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I want to get more into the history of Halloween and how these Satanists are using

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uh the softer forms there is no softer forms of the occult to

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chuck people into their ranks it's exploding

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Softer forms

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I've even had run-ins with these people they're in a lot of positions of power

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We'll talk about it with our guest David Benoit when we get back and your calls are coming up as well

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Wouldn't his argument seem a little bit better if he was talking about like

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I uh I hung out with them and I fucked cheerleader Satanists

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It'd be a really forceful testimonial

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Certainly

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Yeah

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It would add to the first-hand actual experience that's being brought to the table as opposed to

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I've had run-ins with powerful witches

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And it would kind of increase his mystique almost giving him a kind of a folkloric figure

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You know it seems like it'd be valuable to do early on in your career

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Well I guess it kind of works if you just do it later

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Because most people have forgotten about your early shit

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Yeah that's fair

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So look dude this Benoit guy is a snooze

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Whenever he's talking about like being able to connect with the kids I think no

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He's just getting really boring about uh Halloween here

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Number one more history on on Halloween that maybe people aren't aware of and then

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How do we protect our children from this system?

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Somebody protect our children

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Well I tell you what first of all I think information is always crucial

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You know I think that people need to understand what this what the whole thing is all about

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As a matter of fact um you know I wrote a track uh last year entitled Halloween a trick or a treat

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And I give the the different uh traditions like for example trick or treat where did that come from

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And I talk about the jack-o'-lantern you know that that came from Great Britain

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And uh jack was supposed to have sold a soul to the devil and reneged on it and

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Ended up having to get a coal and he tricked the devil and he put it into a turnip

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And then he had to walk the face of the earth and and stuff like that

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They would wear masks because they would be afraid that um after going to the bell fire

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The bonfire that they'd be afraid so they figured they'd scare the ghosts or scare the spirits away

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By wearing masks and now the associated press reported last year that the bone fire was a human

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Sacrifice for many cases animals to be roasted they would read the sign in their burning body

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Oh absolutely but the associated press reported that

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Yep yep okay yeah that was a AP report uh 2002 April 2002 26th you know

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So he made a deal with the devil maybe he turned back on it and then he put his head into a turnip

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What you gonna do what you gonna do?

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Like I was just imagining like teens listening to that being so bored

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Oh man this guy he knows how to engage us with humor and interesting facts

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Yeah definitely yeah so look rock and roll being the of the devil obvious

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Yeah totally obvious yeah yeah but there's some not so obvious things that David Benoit

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Would like to warn you about okay some movies maybe that are insidious

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More fiction please

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Again when you get right down to talking about the dead and talking to the dead and to show you

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Here's the thing that really gives me Alex is that there's the obvious

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And when I've I've done things on rock music for years and stuff

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I've been interviewed by NBC, ABC, CNN news and things like that

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And you know I've talked about the obvious but the most subtle

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For example uh like talking to the dead there are movies like sixth sense

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And where a boy is supposed to see spirits and stuff nobody consumed but him

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And then you've got ghosts where uh they they've had some uh they talk about that

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Hey buddy neither of those are subtle those are both like

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Wasn't the tagline of the sixth sense I see dead people

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That like catchphrase of the movie yeah and hey uh ghost is called ghost

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Yep yep yep yep yep these are subtle things

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If you uh uh want to present to me as being a religious scholar

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I think you would like that

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Of glory ministries sure uh and you also believe that movies are real

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Uh-huh uh I think it cheapens your glory if you know what I'm saying

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Uh-huh yeah well I don't think you're ready for this then

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Oh I'm not ready because he goes on

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Oh god no mic down for this okay

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Then you've got ghosts where uh they they've had some uh they talk about that

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But also in the movie uh Lion King

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Simba talks to his father who is dead and there are a lot of Christians who say

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Well I don't see anything wrong with it well you know I had one guy at a Christian

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College one day said well Mr. Minow I didn't see it that way the way I saw it was

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That Simba was like Jesus and uh he was talking to his heavenly father

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Well it's the same thing with E.T.

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E.T. rises from the dead they worship him in the same glass window

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Uh you know he exactly it's the same message everywhere

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Exactly

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Yep so yeah we got Lion King and E.T. they're mad at too

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I am afraid of the world I don't understand anything

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So look look we have to keep going on this thread about the Lion King

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Yes

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Because he's he's pretty concerned about the Lion King

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He's concerned about the Lion King

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Some people have given him some rebuttals that might actually like what about this bro

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Okay well I have I have a problem already with his first rebuttal which is I saw

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The Lion King somehow as a metaphor for Jesus which struggling there

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Right Mike down again for this because this is ridiculous

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Sorry whatever Lion King comes up Mike must go down

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And and the thing about it is is what I told him I said well what about Rafiki he said well

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He was the Holy Spirit this is the Holy Spirit I said he was a witch doctor

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I said see you only miss one minor problem with that analogy and that's it

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And that's this is that Simba's father died and ascended to be a god

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That's the new age movement Jesus' father has always been god he's always been in heaven

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And therefore he's never had to die and ascend to be an ascended master

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So how do we protect our children from this get them out of the public schools

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I would say number one

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Yeah yeah that's that's it get them out of the public school so they can't be

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affected by the Lion King and the nefarious message of of Mufasa becoming an ascended master

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Okay give me one second huh so if I'm

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Shouldn't Alex hate Star Wars

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No give me one second give me one second I really need I really need to understand this correctly

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Okay because of Ghost the Lion King

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Subtle subtle

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Because of E.T.

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Because of Bewitched because of Sabrina the Teenage Witch

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Because of Buffy the Vampire Slayer we need to take our kids out of school

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Right I did

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Because school is where those specific things are found

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I did think that that was a strange leap uh for that to be the conclusion of this stupid

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conversation about Rafiki being the Holy Spirit

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I don't understand what you don't get about Rafiki being the Holy Spirit

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That one's just too obvious

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Timon and Pumbaa who are they

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That's uh Rosencrantz and Guildenstern

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What

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Yes I mean it's based on who fucking cares what are we doing what are we doing

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Nala is Joan of Arc

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What are we doing

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Oh my god

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Yeah they're scared

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Oh man these guys would absolutely go apeshit if they ever heard of Aeschylus

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They would be over for them they'd be like holy shit the crowd is supposed to be talking

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There's a chorus I don't get it where are they from

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This is magic this is devilry

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Devilry

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Um so yeah man uh if you have Harry Potter in school

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Yeah

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You should be able to have everyone pray in school

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That sounds right

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You know what I found interesting also is I was uh called by a lady from Knoxville Tennessee

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and she said Mr. Middleman my daughter has to go under the Hogwarts School for Witchcraft

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and Wizardry to get into her room and so when I told the principal I didn't want my daughter

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there and he said okay then write her a little note and we'll take her out of the class but you

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know what my suggestion was to that is if that offends see if that if Harry Potter offends you

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you can get a little note and go out of class well why don't we say that to those who are offended

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about prayer in school

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Yeah why don't we sue them but more importantly just let them have their system

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Let them have it

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Hey come on

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Leave the schools

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No no

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I don't know I think there's a slight difference between like room decorations uh around a popular

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book and uh sort of uh uh communal uh enforced by the school organized by the school

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Yeah

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uh religious activities

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Yeah I mean the thing about this is that that is exactly the point of all of the rest of it

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in the same way that right now the right wing

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There's even more of a point but that is this is a big part of the point

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Yeah yeah I mean the the right now the right wing is making up a way a fictional

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Antifa to be the victim of in order to consolidate their insane power already

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Right and screaming about uh CRT in order to get rid of any kind of troubling history

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Totally can't have can't let people see Harry Potter in schools or I say you know just to be

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fair right we should allow prayer to be in schools all the time I'm just saying

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and it's about fairness Dan it's a fairness argument

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I'm going to maliciously uh misinterpret Harry Potter as an actual religion

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Yes absolutely

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In order to justify me bringing religion into schools

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Right

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Uh that will eventually be enforced pretty strictly

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The obvious thing that he doesn't understand is the point that he's really making is that

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Harry Potter and Christianity are both equally fictional

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Now won't you think of the children?

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Uh actually I'm refusing to think of the children ever again I'm done thinking of the children

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You're you're a monster?

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I am

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Now just think of the kids who don't like Harry Potter they're ostracized

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Never I didn't like Harry Potter and I was fine

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Did this happen to you?

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Yeah why don't we sue them but but more importantly just let them have their system

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Get them out of there but but the point is they ostracize the children

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You're a weirdo for leaving

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Oh exactly they said none of that but they call them muggles

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They called her a muggle a muggle is a non in in Harry Potter's books

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It's supposed to be a non uh witch or sorcerer

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It's a natural person someone who doesn't believe in magic so

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when the girl left the room they called her muggle muggle muggle muggle

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Now could you imagine what kind of uprising would have been if if someone like a a Hindu

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or say a Muslim didn't want to pledge allegiance to the flag or didn't want to say in god we trust

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or or had to pray and they had to leave and everybody said muggle muggle muggle muggle

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Oh there have been all kind of lawsuits but see you know why it is Alex is because Christians don't

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say anything don't do it don't say don't say the only 100 false real thing that you've said

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I mean what if kids were rude to minorities and see but here's the other thing that's again

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so ridiculous that is again one of those things about Harry Potter that a close reading would

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analyze so fucking differently the thing about Harry Potter is that uh the the slur that wizards

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use against uh wizards use the slur mudblood against uh wizards with non-magical parents

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right but they are all fine and it's a horrible thing to use the sure that mudblood oh it's a

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horrible slur all of them use muggle all the time yeah just like no problem whatsoever just this

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slur about a class of people who are non-magical don't give a fuck about yeah yeah just all the

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time it's those types of thing where it's like oh this slur is bad for the people I like and

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it's fine to give slurs around for all the people that aren't involved with our fun story sure but

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it's it's silly to be like the trauma of people calling her a muggle see again and then can can

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you imagine what the uproar would be if this happened to somebody of a minority group and

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it's like it does yeah quite a bit and there is not an uproar they don't do it you wouldn't give

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a shit about that you would be like well you gotta take it on the chin if your traditions are

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different than ours or or whatever the fuck the only thing that's important is that we are always

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the victims and you should do whatever we say yeah because we're the victims yep yep yay so look I

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mean obviously you should be able to pray in school if you have harry potter there but there's

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another thing that you should be forced to take that argument I'm not see the thing about it is

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is um you know they are there these these principals and everything are taught how to

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handle us rowdies they're taught how to handle us I mean we're we're the weird ones we're the

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friends when they say well you need to be a free thinker well you know if you think that's the case

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then why don't you let the teachers teach the left behind series to their children you know our least

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read equally I mean there's some good Christian novels that are out there stuff like that one

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oh they'd never think about that but they can teach witchcraft and occultism they're not um

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that argument is pretty cute and I think it's kind of funny that David thinks harry potter is in any

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way similar to left behind uh thematically or in like the intent of the writing or even the

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quality of the book it's it's silly but there's a much bigger problem to deal with here the books

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of left behind are very very specifically a story about a pre-tribulation rapture the rapture happens

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and then those who weren't saved are quote left behind in the rapture it's essentially the whole

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point of that 16 book series I don't care about this at all but Alex thinks pre-tribulation rapture

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preaching is heresy he's a strong post-trib guy and it's pretty funny to hear someone bring up

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left behind on his show and see him not get mad about it he should be furious about the suggestion

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that left behind be taught in schools probably more so than harry potter oh I know we've talked

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about left behind before yeah he should be furious about the idea of left behind being

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evoked on his show it's the exact wrong image of the the tribulation and the rapture that actually

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is insidiously teaching the patriots and the christians to not be ready to fight exactly

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and so like he should be furious and he's not considering how furious I've seen him get about

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just somebody saying pre-trib might be real this the the novel series being recommended for

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children in public schools seems very odd yeah yeah I think that there's also a very strong

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difference between the the notion of a school teaching harry potter or allowing kids to read

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harry pot kids would be allowed to read left behind as recreational I read left behind I read

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like uh five of the novels and then I was shocked that they kept going yeah yeah bananas I think

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that if I recall correctly when they made a movie of that they my dad got like a press copy or

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something they wanted Nicolas Cage in that no no this is the Cameron one oh this is the okay I got

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you um I think they wanted him to write a blurb or something I remember him being very not interested

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I have a vague memory of that really nails how dumb Christianity is so um look uh there's uh

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Christians sure they don't do anything and that's why their kids are called muggles in school or

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whatever right um and and also I will say that this is an interesting fact that David brings up

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this this next clip it's an interesting fact that would help him connect with the children

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and then immediately lose them you know I read the other day where you know those long leg spiders

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they have their venom is more powerful than the black widow are we doing this but the reason why

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most people don't know that is because the daddy long leg spider cannot open its mouth wide enough

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and flick the fangs into the human you know when I heard that and read that you know what I said

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Alex I said that's just like Christianity we're more powerful than the homosexuals you just don't

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say anything whoa what hold on you know you know you know that took a turn the the the the the

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jumping I mean jumping spiders we are watching olympic level triple leaps of logic that I cannot

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understand whatsoever but it also kind of indicates to you what they're actually talking

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about what of course they're actually mad about he's not mad about harry potter yeah he's mad

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about harry potter yeah he's mad about like feeling like people are too gay and yeah Alex

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thinks that there's too much promiscuity and dating shows and yeah they don't feel like

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their ideas are in control of public education right you know that's really what they're mad

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about they don't care about a book about a boy wizard it seems like everywhere I turn the world

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that I had beaten into me when I was a child is not the same yeah I don't know these people are

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fucked up yeah they're just fucking stop and uh one of the things that I find also you know like

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you know take the monstrousness and the clear overt homophobia out of this yeah and you kind

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of have a clunky metaphor you have many clunky metaphor well because think about this the daddy

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long legs yes is a venomous spider true but it can't bite you because it can't open its mouth

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up big enough to bite you stroke of luck on our part now he's saying that the christians are like

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that they're more venomous than other groups yes great let's leave that aside venomousness right

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but he's saying they're unwilling to flex that muscle or use that venom sounds like christianity

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I know it's not like the daddy that long legs can't bring itself to bite you no it can't

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physically yeah so if this is analogous at all then the christians can't physically use this

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power they are unable to exert this this quote unquote extra venomousness that they have yes

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it's not a choice for the daddy long legs it's nature it's their jaw right right

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I would say it's a bad metaphor I would say the metaphor might make more sense if you said that

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uh christians were filled with venom and you know they didn't bite people but they just kept

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fucking bothering me you know you know you know what you know what's teaching the kids devilry

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what's that venom to carnage I can't wait to see it I'm looking forward to it devilry let

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there be carnage dan so speaking of carnage this next clip is really really upsetting and after the

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stupidity and nonsense of harry potter and Rafiki being the holy spirit Rafiki is the holy spirit

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I'm gonna defend that one this really fucking upset me we're more powerful than the homosexuals

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you just don't say anything we're more powerful than the atheists we just won't say anything we're

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more powerful than the one worlders we just won't say anything you know people say oh you could

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never get prayer back in school let me tell you something you blow up a couple buildings everybody

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wants to pray where were they also aclu at that time you know america is loaded with christianity

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they just don't they just bow down to everything well I go on a lot of christian stations and some

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of them it's just don't don't speak out be quiet go along oh yeah so I can't tell if what he's

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saying is everybody loved to pray after 9 11 or if he's saying you say we can't get prayer back

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in school let's blow up some buildings and see if you pray it because it could go either way

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it could go either way it's at least inarticulate could be both it's inarticulately delivered to the

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point where I think those are both readings of it right and that's fucked up right what he could

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have said was there are no atheists in a foxhole sure you know that is if that's his intent right

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then that's what he should have said no one is going to then create foxholes in order to create

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christians yeah it wasn't like what we should do with the create a foxhole christian thing what we

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should do is we should kill a lot of people to make them get into foxholes and then they won't

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be atheists anymore see that's what god wants us to do dan it's a longer walk and that really was

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like wow I mean I think that this is what like one of the if he's trying to say like people were

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very religious after 9 11 if that's what he was trying to say he said it in about the worst and

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most sort of irresponsible way sure I can imagine sure you know I mean for for me if I was going to

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listen to his uh we could do all of these things but we stay quiet about it uh-huh I would ask how

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many uh atheist presidents there were or how many I mean let's say how many elected representatives

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throughout America's history you don't have openly professed to not having any religious beliefs

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whatsoever you don't want to play this game because they'll just argue that the uh most

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presidents are secrets there we go secret atheists I'm not playing the game with them there was never

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any point to doing that it's just like how can you be that stupid you know George Washington

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was the only president who didn't read Harry Potter yeah it's well might as well have been

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so can you imagine Jordan going back 150 years and telling a church about Harry Potter because

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David Ben wall can't again it's been a process of changing exactly see it's like I was I was

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speaking in a church the other day that's 156 years old they were celebrating their 156th anniversary

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and I said could you imagine if I came to this church 156 years ago and said that there would

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be a boy named Harry Potter and that he was going to be attending the Hogwarts school for

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witchcraft and wizardry and that children would be reading the book in church youth pastors would be

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having activities surrounding that I said the people in that church would have thought I was

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crazy but they're not anymore they're doing it all over the country and we're bad for saying it's bad

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I don't know how many churches necessarily were using Harry Potter I mean I don't know what they

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would use it for I don't know what youth groups need to have assigned reading necessarily other

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than the bible well I mean you know the power goes out you know you know you want to learn

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the blight spell I guess there are some youth groups and churches probably that didn't ban

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Harry Potter maybe that's what he's responding so proud so proud of so I mean like sure you go back

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to 156 years before but like I mean there are other books I will tell you this like what would

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that church think of Gulliver's travels I will tell you this if you there are tiny people if you

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go back to 1846 and you told them that children would be into witches they would be like you're

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fucking right they are and we gotta stop them let's go let's get our torches and pitchforks because

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in 1856 we totally believe riches witches are real there is like like Macbeth there are witches and

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other things they've been rich before Harry Potter yeah yeah also Frankenstein that book

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church is probably mad about that it came out in 1818 totally yeah yeah no do you know what they

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were I'll tell you this do you know what the book churches were most mad about what's that when it

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came out the fucking bible oh yeah they had a lot of they were furious about that various books

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within it and the canonization and yeah there was a lot of trouble oh man you don't even want to

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know what happened when they started printing it for everyone to read oh that was scandalous

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tried to cancel it I am not joking yeah Christians wanted to cancel the bible they're trying to

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shadow ban the bible shadow banning it you know where the bible traveled it went the same direction

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as porn it traveled all through the same underground porn traveling system in the 15 fucking

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hundreds great Christians are dumb so uh look yeah I think that we now know because we're in 2021

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blackjack uh that the end was not near in 2003 uh two as it were we were we weren't we're in double

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overtime now yeah we were in we were in fourth quarter over time if so we got some tough things

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that's the trick it's so far fetched when we report it but when they start saying it people

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have heard us say it and they go well so what everybody's doing it you see that that's the

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fine line that we deal with every day Alex so we're only a few years away from the aztec

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kingdom where everybody was doing it a few years we're only a few years away from euthanasia that's

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already in northern Europe we're only a few years away it's already here exactly and see so when you

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start reporting it you're you're crazy and that yet when Walter Cronkite or when somebody else

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gets up there or or you know Dan Rather or Ted Koppel or somebody like that oh yeah well that's

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that's something huh yeah it is something and if Walter Cronkite did deliver this news that we are

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a few years away from being the aztec kingdom with human sacrifice and witchcraft and all this shit

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yeah I would say he's crazy too yeah I would not I would not give him you know why he's respected

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because he didn't say shit like that he did not say shit like that yes that was one of the reasons

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that people were like oh I can trust this person not to say shit exactly yeah I think that maybe

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there's a little bit of backwardsness here yeah like oh he's so respected but if he said that

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there were witches like no no he's respected because he doesn't he doesn't do that shit

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you could you could be too if you did a better job yeah I wish I had more recordings of like

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that type of old man whining of that like I don't understand the children these days from

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from every era you know so I could just bring like in in conversation with my family or anything like

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that just bring that out and be like hey are you really mad about that is that a huge problem for

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you is that a huge culture issue that you need to talk about let's take a look at the other ones

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that you are just as important as as well uh yeah I think we've talked about it before I even

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check myself a little bit about that whenever there's something that I just don't understand

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like even TikTok for me is a little bit like it gives me that sort of if I were a little bit less

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examined in my sort of daily life I might be like these fucking kids it might be something that I

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would feel like this generation has really lost it oh man I don't I recognize it's just something

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that yeah I've pardon the expression been left behind and that's fine yeah I mean I just I think

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one of the major problems is that it seems like the generation uh after us is just better they're

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just way better people they're more connected they're smarter I think you might be erring on

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the other side you might be going the pendulum swinging a little bit too far they're not all

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Greta I get that sure I get that but you know what you know Greta doesn't have a mark on her forehead

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but everybody else does you know I've been talking about these microchips as a matter of fact you

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realize that when harry potter first came to america as far as the book they sent out 365 000

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little stickers and you know harry potter has a lightning bolt on his forehead and it's a scar

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and so all these children got these little bitty stickers and they were all putting them right on

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their forehead just like harry potter you see so that you start looking at that even in lion king

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where Simba was anointed on his forehead I show pictures of that and then you know the U.S. news

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and world report some time ago had a child on his front cover with a bar mark right on his forehead

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barcode right on his forehead oh man it's microchip shit Jesus I don't understand how we're

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also like getting so far afield from witches you know like this is supposed to be about witches on

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halloween and now the lion king is being used to put forth a microchip conspiracy like I've really

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I think they've lost the thread I think it would go so far as to be evidence for them not actually

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believing witches are real and just using it as a cudgel to get through their other more important

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bullshit yeah it's kind of a splitter that they can use to have their other agendas yeah be more

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interesting oh yeah and they would appear to be other yeah I think second amendment rights are

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important cool hey I think second amendment rights are important because witches are coming

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all right I'm listening hold on all right what else you got yeah I think also they're a little

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bit defensive because witches aren't real maybe okay but they're a little defensive that people

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think that they're bad because they're against witches or something this is so stupid okay

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like when you talk about witches witches were bad and then all of a sudden well they're not so bad

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but but but we're cooks evangelizing it's not exactly see there was a there was a long time

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that people said oh which is just make believe when they jumped that line from which they're

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make believe to now well so what I mean freedom of speech and freedom of religion in america

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and they're grabbing our kids and doing this well the website glory ministries

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dot com a link to it on infowars.com what will you be doing this uh sham hayne this halloween night

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tomorrow well tomorrow night I will actually be traveling and I'll be doing some uh programs down

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in Florida and uh so I'll be out of pocket tomorrow uh but I'm telling you what it's not

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that I won't be praying about some things because I realize there are a lot of children and and and

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here's another thing even if Alex this was not an occult practice or cult day anybody will take

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their children and walk through the neighborhood taking candy from anybody who'll open up a door

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is stupid oh okay aren't what don't trust anyone aren't you supposed to be like everyone's evil

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you're supposed to be about community and neighbors demons are everywhere okay don't even

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say hi to your neighbors I mean obviously I do think that uh sending a child who's uh you know

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a young young child alone unaccompanied I think that is dangerous probably an issue for the

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reasons of like you never know who's out there but then even from like what if they trip and

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fall and hurt themselves totally you know like yeah you need to but that's your responsibility

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as a parent it's nothing to do with demons right now the other thing I think is being very clearly

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intentionally misrepresented here in a very hilarious way is the like for the longest time

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they said witches were bad but and and they're not real people were like oh they're not real

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and now everyone's like ah who cares now the ah who cares is not society being like yeah they do

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magic all right yeah fine yeah it's being like who cares yeah it's a little different than society

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just being like all right we'll accept okay fine witches are real and they do magic all the time

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but let's not worry about it we need to regulate cauldron sales get the fuck out of here yeah this

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is really dumb ah sometimes you know if see the thing about being a witch and I'll tell you this

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is the only reason that they can believe in witches and also convincingly argue that they

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aren't dead is that because there are magical rules that they themselves imagine exist that

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they then impose upon witches like if witches were real and magic is real explain to me why

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eyesight's important or distance or anything along those lines like if a witch was like holy shit

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alex is blowing the whistle on all of our witch shit let's take away his voice they could just

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take away his voice it wouldn't even be hard nope he gets boils one day and he has to go to the

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doctor and then he's dead it's the point of magic you don't have the rules the rest of us do well

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but then he's gonna be like no no they can only do it if they have a block of your hair fuck off

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yeah i mean there have to be limitations in order to make this make sense within the actual world we

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live in exactly yes there has to be an explanation for why there aren't magical things happening all

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the time if it were this easy to learn how to do magic yeah yeah yeah uh or possible to learn how

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to do how would they keep it secret because it's fucking magic yeah what are you talking about

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jordan do you think you should trick or treat

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sure okay you you and uh david benoit have hit an impasse you've thought about it for a while

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well you guys are not in agreement i mean the whole thing's bad news but again everybody's

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doing it so it must be good well it's you know casey had to live in somebody's neighborhood you

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know and all these rapists and these pedophiles they live in people's neighborhoods what what

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are we doing you stop and think about that that for 364 days of the year we tell our children not

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to take anything from a stranger and then one night of the year we walk around picking out

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anything they can they can hand something out law enforcement numbers show it a massive amount of

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children are kidnapped the week before it's the biggest upsurge of the year before halloween and

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then the years later they find them in some patch for their poor little poor little skeletons and

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they put that in the back of the paper which shows me there's an agenda to cover this up

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okay prove that let's see those law enforcement numbers if there's an agenda to cover it up you

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have a responsibility you owe their poor little skeletons uh the coverage of this very specifically

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in order to get the word out yeah about the evils of the i guess universal kidnapping ring that's

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going on on halloween now i think that this is really fucked up because i thought this was about

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witches and harry potter and and shit and now apparently it's about your neighbors being creeps

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yeah yeah i mean i thought it was supposed to be afraid of the occult not the predatory guy who

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lives down the street no anybody could be the predator but he's not a witch this is cult shit

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he's a perv he's not a witch this is isolate from anyone who can disagree with yeah this is a look

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if you want to say that trick or treating is bad i mean whatever you want to say about candy is

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fine but part of trick or treating is that it is a communal ritual right and that you go around

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to complete strangers homes they smile you smile they give you candy not always complete strangers

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either if you know people in your neighborhood totally it's a reinforcing community thing where

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you dress up and then people answer the door and they're like oh look at you exactly look

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at that costume this is good yeah this is good and guess what else it is it's about realizing

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that the people around you are just people like you yeah and that most of us are fucking chill

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most of us are except for that guy who's pretending he's dead so he can scare kids

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yeah fuck that guy that guy that's why we shouldn't trick or treat uh yeah i think that

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yeah the message is basically don't trust anybody except those who would be willing to join in with

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our paranoia exactly and have our community of paranoid weirdos who are scared of everybody else

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right do not go meet other people with different backgrounds unless they look different unless they

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do a handshake with a gun exactly yes absolutely then they're good people yeah it's just cult

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isolation shit man we have one last clip here this is how the interview ends and it's a real

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eye roller years later they find them in some patch for their poor little poor little skeletons

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and they put that in the back of the paper which shows me there's an agenda to cover this up well

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they don't need to kidnap children i mean all they got to do is perform human sacrifice to

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buy abortion that happens every day 15 million thanks for joining us uh they've been a lot of

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great info on your site we appreciate you thank you so much god bless y'all you must take care

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wow boo the bizarre political messages that just get thrown in really stray like on the side the

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anti-abortion the pro second amendment uh kind of stuff it's like i thought we're talking about

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witches yeah what's happening here i mean it is like borderline witches witches are terrible

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they use magic they they worship the devil also trans people are evil yeah witches are the ones

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we're talking about here trans people are evil what we want to talk about mainly are witches

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abortion is going to kill everybody what we want to talk are witches everywhere stronger than the

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gays exactly yes absolutely wow it's like are you trying yeah it's it's pretty overt and and

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i i don't know i i i wonder if it's a function of like there weren't as many people listening

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so this is this feels could just get very sloppy yeah uh and very dumb yeah yeah they could just

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get away with this shit nobody's paying attention i but look we needed to have a spooktacular we

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needed to have uh a little break we had to do we never do this we don't but to be fair we never

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did interviews that's true so why and we never did special holiday episodes evolve or die not give

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it a shot evolve or die exactly yes and so now every holiday we're doing themed holiday i want

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a valentine's day uh alex jones that's what i need alex sings uh why do i get a kick out of you

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out of you champagne doesn't thrill me eyes man say only fools take a look at me now

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there's just an empty space hello is it me you're looking for it's a different

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tone when he's singing hello it does a little a little bit different aggressive is it me you're

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looking for uh officer so we'll we will in earnest actually get to present day

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i just found his behavior so abhorrent oh bad and i was like we we got to do a halloween i

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swear to you those first few clips set a table that i was genuinely like this is going to get

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dark yeah and a big part of this too was that i was poking around on the website yeah and and

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uncovered that interview and honestly if you see the name author of 14 things witches hope parents

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never find out on the occult and the real meaning of halloween bringing america to its knees that's

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a spook how do you resist that's a spooktacular i can't have this interview sitting in my archives

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and like think like oh we'll get to it in march no you can't you gotta strike while the iron's hot

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and the iron has now cooled so uh happy happy halloween happy halloween and uh happy happy

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not halloween to anybody who doesn't hey i want to wish a happy sawan to anybody who uh celebrates

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and a happy sam hayne to anybody who doesn't uh-huh uh anyway we'll be back we have a website

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you can go from my website and learn witchcraft magic uh i think we also have don't kill your

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family.com now i believe i saw that one yes thank you um also we are on twitter we are on twitter

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it's at knowledge underscore fight not go to bed jordan yep we'll be back but until then i'm neo

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i'm leo i'm dz x clark i'm darryl rundus you're a traitor dan andy in kansas you're on the air

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thanks for holding hello alex i'm a first time caller i'm a huge fan i love your work