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N-N-N-N-N-N-N-Knowledge Fight

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Dan and Jordan, I am sweating.

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Knowledgefight.com, it's time to pray.

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I have great respect for Knowledgefight.

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Knowledgefight.

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I'm sick of them posing as if they're the good guys saying we are the bad guys.

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Knowledgefight.

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Dan and Jordan.

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Knowledgefight.

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That'll hurt.

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That'll hurt.

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That'll hurt.

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Need money.

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That'll hurt.

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That'll hurt.

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That'll hurt.

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Andy and Candice.

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Andy and Candice.

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Stop it.

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Andy and Candice.

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Andy and Candice.

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Andy and Candice.

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It's time to pray.

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Andy and Candice, you're on the air.

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Thanks for holding.

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Hello, Alex.

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I'm a first time caller.

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I'm a huge fan.

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I love your room.

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Knowledgefight.

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Knowledgefight.com.

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I love you.

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Hey, everybody.

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Welcome back to Knowledgefight.

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I'm Dan.

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I'm Jordan.

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We're couple dudes.

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I'd like to sit around, worship at the altar of Selene, and talk a little bit about Alex

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Jones.

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Oh, indeed we are, Dan.

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I have a thought.

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I wanted to run this by you.

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Okay.

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I was thinking instead of saying we're a couple of dudes, I could say that we're the Peabody

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and Sherman of podcasting.

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I think that might be the only accurate way to describe us.

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So it'd be we're the Peabody and Sherman of podcasting, we worship at the altar of Selene

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and talk a little bit about Alex Jones.

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I like it.

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I think it's good.

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I don't know.

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It doesn't roll off my tongue as well as I hoped it would.

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I don't like the we're the Peabody and Sherman.

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Let's just change our names to Peabody and Sherman.

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All right.

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I'm Peabody.

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Wait, which one's which?

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No, Mr. Peabody's the dog.

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Yeah, Mr. Peabody's the dog.

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Come on.

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That's right.

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Come on.

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There's no way I'm Mr. Peabody.

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So let's just skip that part.

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Jordan.

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Dan.

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What's up?

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Quick question for you.

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Sure.

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What's your bright spot today?

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It's great to be back.

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It is.

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Don't call it a comeback.

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I won't.

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I guess my bright spot has been I really have enjoyed over the time that you've been gone

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making buttons.

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I've gotten a ton of them sent out and there's a ton more to send out.

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Of course.

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And I would just like to give this a little reminder to everyone that if you've not heard

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back from the emails, I can't respond to all these emails.

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There are way too many.

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There are way more than I expected there to be.

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Way more than last time.

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But they're all being sent out.

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But it's fun.

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I'm not complaining at all.

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Sure.

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Sure.

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I really do enjoy it.

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It's a great treat to be able to give a gift to a ton of people.

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Yeah.

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Absolutely.

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It's not like biting off more than you can chew.

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It's like picking out a buffet and deciding that it's going to take a few weeks to finish

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the entire goddamn buffet but you will eat that goddamn buffet.

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Yeah.

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You know?

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Yeah.

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That kind of thing.

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That's how I'm looking at it.

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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But it continues to be fun and give me an excuse to watch a bunch of Survivor while

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you're gone.

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Perfect.

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And so I would like to say that season 13.

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13?

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I think is the best season that I've seen so far.

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Really?

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Yup.

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Wow!

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I thought you were telling me that it was about to fall off the cliff.

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You had seen the future coming and it was going to be a disaster.

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Well they introduced Exile Island and then also they introduced the Hidden Immunity Idol

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and these are signs of bad things to come.

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Yes.

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That's for sure.

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That's what you have made clear.

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And I will tell you this.

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Season 14 is where way too many twists start.

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There we go.

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Where they start throwing curve balls for no reason.

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Like you can't plan from episode to episode like, I don't even know if this is going to

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be my tribe tomorrow.

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I don't fucking know.

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Right.

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Right.

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It's outrageous.

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This week on Survivor you're on The Bachelorette.

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Yeah.

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Exactly.

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It's almost abusive.

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The level of twists.

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Yeah.

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But season 13 was the one that starts out divided by races.

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Okay.

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And the...

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Wait, what?

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Yeah.

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Oh!

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They start with an African American tribe, an Asian American tribe, a white tribe.

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Interesting!

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Yeah.

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And a Hispanic tribe.

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That's wild!

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And it's not comfortable at first.

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It's um...

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It's 2005, 2006.

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That sounds about right.

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That's when you might get away with that shit.

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Someone thought it was a great idea and that like maybe it would prompt conversation.

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Survivor season 13, Race Wars.

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Yeah.

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It doesn't...

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It's bad at the beginning.

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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But the story that develops towards the middle of the season and throughout is maybe one

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of the more compelling things I've seen on that show.

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Interesting.

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Yeah.

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It's pretty...

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I don't want to spoil anything, but it gets high marks.

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I think a lot of people would hate it if you spoiled something from 16 years ago.

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Yeah.

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Fair enough.

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So what about you?

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What's your bright spot?

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My bright spot, Dan, is well, you know, I had an absolutely fantastic trip.

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It was astonishing.

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We had ventured a lot.

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We saw waterfalls.

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I climbed a goddamn two mile long...

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Well, you know, I hiked it.

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But it was...

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I went up high.

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You know, we're from here where there's no high.

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It's just flat.

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Yeah.

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Concrete everywhere.

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Over there, though, so high.

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There's a lot of things that are up.

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No.

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Whenever I got up there, I could see other things from like further away.

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Oh, that reminds me of Season 5 of Survivor where they went up on a hill.

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No, but it was...

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Yeah.

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It was an amazing trip.

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It's great to be back.

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My bright spot is, I feel like life is bright.

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Yeah, that's good.

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That's always a nice thing to reclaim after a vacation.

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Yeah.

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Very restorative.

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Get to see your dogs again.

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Oh, it was amazing.

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I'm sure they were quite missed.

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Went ape shit when they saw me this morning, went and picked him up.

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They jumped into my face, and he bit off half of my beard.

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It was brutal.

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I needed a trim anyway.

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I needed a trim.

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You got it.

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So, folks, when we last left you...

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On this serialized show.

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So are we going to finally figure out who shot JR?

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No, but I had been not feeling all that well.

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It was not that huge of a deal.

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I did get tested for COVID and everything.

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It was all negative and what have you.

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And the only reason I bring this back up is because we're coming back here on a Wednesday

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and I'd really hoped that we would have been able to record some stuff before your vacation

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and then have it to sort of smooth things out on either end of it.

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But because I was not feeling well, we weren't able to, and I appreciate everybody being

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understanding.

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And a huge thanks to Jared as well.

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Yes.

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I listened to the episode.

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It was a delight to meet Jared Holt and make fun of him about how he went on Reliable Sources.

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Sorry, sorry, I missed that.

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I had a couple...

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It was weird listening to you guys talk because I was listening as I was there and I was like,

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ooh, I got something funny to say.

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Wait, I can't say it?

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I don't have a mic.

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This is wrong!

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Brutal.

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So another thing that's interesting is we might be witches.

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Uh-oh.

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Uh, Alex was in Lake Tahoe all last week.

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No, no, no, unacceptable.

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I refuse.

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I refuse.

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Dan, prior to this show, prior to this show, the number of coincidences per month in my

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life, very low.

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Right.

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Now it seems astonishingly high.

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The fact that our schedules match up in a very strange way when we don't really announce

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these things all that far in advance is upsetting, to say the least.

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I don't like it.

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So, yeah, there wasn't actually all that much to deal with in terms of Alex last week.

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So it would have been, you know, no man's land anyway.

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So today we are back and we're going to be discussing August 1st, 2021.

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This is the Sunday, Sunday episode.

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Very exciting stuff to go over.

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But before we get to that, Jordan, let's take a little moment to say hello to some new wonks.

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Oh, that's a great idea.

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So first, Tyrus, everyone knows you're actually a secret reptile and we are constantly watching

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everything you do.

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Thank you so much.

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You are now a policy wonk.

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I'm a policy wonk.

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Thank you, Tyrus.

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Thank you.

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Next, Caroline J. from the Mohawk Nation in Ontario, Canada.

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Thank you so much.

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You are now a policy wonk.

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I'm a policy wonk.

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Thanks, Caroline!

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Thank you.

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Next, Ride the Cats to Valhalla.

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Thank you so much.

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You are now a policy wonk.

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I'm a policy wonk.

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Thank you very much.

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Thank you.

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Next, The Boulder.

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Thank you so much.

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You are now a policy wonk.

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I'm a policy wonk.

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The Boulder is coming for you Sunday.

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That was Mick Foley in Avatar.

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Was it?

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Yeah.

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In Avatar, The Last Airbender, there was an episode where they meet Toph, the earthbending.

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Well, actually the first metal bender.

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And anyways, they do a whole nice professional wrestling thing and Mick Foley plays The Boulder

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and does a full on, you know, wrestling promo guy.

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You got me really excited that Mick Foley was a Na'vi in the other Avatar.

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Oh no, I don't think so.

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Oh well.

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Sorry.

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Next, I've listened to both of your Godawful Movie episodes twice.

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Bring on more bad movies!

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Thank you so much.

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You are now a policy wonk.

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I'm a policy wonk.

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Thank you very much.

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Thank you.

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And we got a technocrat to give a shout out to.

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So, what's up to the quokka that gave Alex Jones syphilis?

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Thank you so much.

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You are now a technocrat.

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I'm a policy wonk.

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Crikey, mate.

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That's fantastic.

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Have yourself a brew.

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Thank you.

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How's your 401k doing, bro?

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Alright, we gotta go full tilt boogie on this Watson, alright?

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Let's just get down to business.

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We ain't making that money off that heroin.

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Why you pimps so good?

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My neck is freakishly large.

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I declare info war on you.

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Thank you so much.

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Pronounce that quokka.

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Yes, thank you very much.

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Also, in updates to additions to Selene's family, we'd like to say thank you so much

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to Katie, who adopted a blue-footed booby because they needed some feathers in this

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family.

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Absolutely.

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Absolutely.

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So that's very exciting.

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We got a blue-footed booby who is now one of Selene's children.

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Here's the problem.

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So far, every time we do something, it winds up spiraling out of control.

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I think this one might get us to ARC levels of out of control.

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Eventually, everyone's gonna realize that the only way we're gonna make it through this

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is if we have two of every animal in the cult of Selene.

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That's just what's gonna have to happen.

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Let's not let it get to that point, but we do appreciate people adopting wildlife.

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Of course.

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So we're gonna start here on Sunday, and here's where Alex is at.

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Big news.

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COVID.

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Bad news.

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Bad news?

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Bad news.

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Okay.

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Go to the front page of infowars.com.

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You will see today's headline that we have the live show feed posted in, and it's quite

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a shocking headline.

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The British government officially warns that 2.6 billion plus people...

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Yeah.

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Here we go.

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Whenever you're ready, buddy.

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2.6 billion people may die as a result of the mutations coming from the so-called COVID-19

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vaccines that are really just genetically modified injections.

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Yeah, man.

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The British media is really letting it slip.

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Wow.

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Wow.

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Okay.

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Did you hear this story while you were on vacation?

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I feel like if...

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Did you miss this one?

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If the British press had just been like 2.6 billion gonna die, I think even I would have

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heard that in the mountains.

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Somebody would have screamed that far enough away.

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A hawk would have come out of nowhere to deliver the news.

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So Alex is just talking about an article here in the Daily Mail that discusses some recent

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comments from the UK scientific advisory group for emergencies, also known as SAGE.

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They warned that the possibility of a mutation occurring that could make COVID as deadly

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as MERS was, quote, a realistic possibility.

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The part that Alex is completely ignoring about the article is the part where it also

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says, quote, the SAGE report also claimed it was equally realistic that COVID will mutate

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to become less lethal over time.

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Hmm.

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So coming from the SAGE council, future uncertain.

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Yes.

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Could be bad.

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Also, could be good.

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Could be great.

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Fine.

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This is a paper that encouraged the UK government to not give into complacency because at the

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point, there's really no way to know how COVID is going to evolve in the future.

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The part about vaccines creating the mutations is just a simple misrepresentation of a single

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line in this Daily Mail article that says, quote, in a downside of Britain's hugely successful

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vaccination drive, the team warned the country's greater levels of immunity may help speed

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up the virus's evolutionary process.

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This isn't saying that vaccines create mutations.

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That's just Alex's made up version of what that means.

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It's clear if you read the underlying report that this is a reference to the phenomenon

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known as selection pressure that occurs whenever you treat an illness.

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You wouldn't say that antibiotics create antibiotic resistant strains of illness, but if you don't

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take a full course of antibiotics, you might fuck around and create antibiotics resistant

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strains of things.

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Yeah.

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How many times do we have to discuss evolutionary arms races before people are like, oh, evolutionary

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arms race is what's going on right here.

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I gotcha.

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That's what that was in reference to.

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Exactly.

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If you do care to look for this and actually, you know, you can find the report if you want

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to look into primary sources instead of what Alex does, which is just skim daily mail articles.

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It's pretty easy to find that article or that paper if you want.

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It's titled SPI-M-O statement on their concerns for the next few months.

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The framing of this document is really clear in that it's discussing possible circumstances

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the UK could find itself in that officials need to keep in mind as they embark on, quote,

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the final step of easing restrictions.

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Primarily, they list a key concern as being that, quote, any epidemic trajectory that

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could lead to unsustainable pressure on the NHS or other adverse outcomes would need to

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be identified and contingency enacted within days.

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The report itself actually has a graphic at the bottom of it that explains what they mean

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when they say realistic possibility.

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This is something that has about a 40 to 50 percent chance in their estimation.

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It's slightly more probable than unlikely and less likely than likely.

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All of this context is absent from Alex's coverage because he's just interested in misrepresenting

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headlines in order to scare the audience into whatever direction he thinks is going to be

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profitable that day.

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Also, that 2.6 billion number, that isn't from the report.

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No.

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This is just a calculation, Alex, or maybe you could even blame the Daily Mail for this.

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It's just taking the death rate that you would have of MERS and then applying it to the infection

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rates that we see currently.

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No.

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And then applying it to the entire world population.

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So it's assuming that the entire world population...

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Everyone gets it.

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Yes.

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Okay.

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It's a...

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All right.

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Okay.

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All right.

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It's a little sloppy.

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That is a little sloppy.

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Yeah.

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And I think that what you have is a Daily Mail report that's kind of, eh, not great

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in terms of the underlying primary source.

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From the Daily Mail?

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And then Alex is even further off course just with nonsense.

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But yeah, the British media is saying that...

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2.6 billion, huh?

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2.6 billion.

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It's a day now.

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You know, I think one of the big problems that we're experiencing right now is a simple

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kind of error, which is that in order to deal with this, we needed leaders who had the courage

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to say things that people didn't want to hear and then enforce those things as being necessary.

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But our system doesn't reward courageous leaders.

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It punishes them for sometimes being wrong or being right in a mean way.

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And so instead we've got a bunch of fucking cowards.

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It's a mess.

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Yeah.

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It is a mess.

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But you know what?

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One thing I really always appreciate about someone like an Alex, even if he is off track

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sometimes, he really knows how to keep his own stories straight.

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He has these things...

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I haven't been gone that long, Dan.

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He has these things that he's researched and he knows them forward and backward.

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Almost too much.

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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He's got a really good handle on stuff.

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Yeah.

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It's a simple point and I'm really wrapping my brain around this war game, but remember

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Crimson Contagion that we covered four or five months ago that got millions, 10 million

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views or so.

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General Flynn said it was the best work he'd seen on COVID.

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All he was doing was going over the war game from three and a half years ago, put up by

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the Rockefellers and others saying they would inject people with this vaccine.

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Everybody would get sick.

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And then out of that would collapse civilization.

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SPARS pandemic, and then the Crimson Contagion.

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Emergency Saturday broadcast, world shocked by SPARS 2025, 2028 document.

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It's the SPARS document and then that's carried on into Crimson Contagion.

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It's really sad to hear the way Alex is talking about these two exercises.

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He's made up a ton of shit about both to the point where he doesn't even remember which

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is which.

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Nope.

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So his underlying thing isn't even something that he's connected to any longer, which is

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outrageous.

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Mm-mm.

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Neither of these things that he's talking about were run by the Rockefeller Institute,

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which he's trying to imply.

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Crimson Contagion was a series of exercises run by the HHS.

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It was a government operation.

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Because it was a big elaborate scenario thing, there were a bunch of governmental and non-governmental

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participants.

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In the report, there's actually a list of non-governmental participants and the Rockefeller

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Foundation isn't even one of them.

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Great.

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So this was a scenario exercise that was run by Johns Hopkins Center for Health Security.

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These are two very different exercises and the fact that Alex can get them confused is

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a very strong indication that he doesn't know anything about them past their name and the

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stories that he's made up about them.

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Crimson Contagion was a government-run series of exercises about the fictitious discovery

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of a novel influenza virus, not a coronavirus.

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In Crimson Contagion, the idea was to test interagency collaboration as well as collaboration

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with non-governmental agencies and tribal leaders to see what challenges would arise

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in the course of responding to a new infectious disease.

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The report is largely about the things that they learned in the course of role-playing,

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like quote, response partners lack clarity on CDC's data sharing policies, and quote,

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confusion regarding the purpose of and target audience for national conference calls hampered

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coordination among state and federal response partners.

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This is not like an elaborate scenario that's fleshed out with a ton of detail in this case,

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because the point of the exercise was to have a basic problem that required coordination

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to address, which would create the opportunity for people to test that coordination in a

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safe environment and identify problems ahead of time.

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Conversely, SPARS is a little bit of a different kind of scenario exercise.

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This isn't something that was role-played, like Crimson Contagion was.

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It's instead a document that lays out a fictitious future series of events, then poses questions

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about how you could best respond to those developments.

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SPARS is an exercise that is explicitly about messaging and public health risk communication,

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so it's something that doesn't really lend itself to role-playing in the way that Crimson

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Contagion did.

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Trying to explore challenges of public health messaging would be hard to do in a role-playing

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environment without a fake audience to send the messages to, so it makes a lot more sense

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to approach the issue in this format, where you have like discussion questions and scenarios

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like how would you respond if you got this curveball thrown at you.

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So let's say Crimson Contagion was like a basketball practice and SPARS is like fantasy

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football.

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Sure.

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You know what I'm saying?

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Like the basketball practice, you've got people playing, you're running through the scenarios

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that might come up in a game, and in the fantasy football you're studying and you're taking

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data and extrapolating based on that.

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Or maybe like it's SPARS is like you at a chalkboard working out a play or whatever.

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Sure.

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Perfect.

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Yeah.

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Yeah, yeah, yeah.

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This is a different communication challenge that officials could face in the context of

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a pandemic.

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Chapter 17 is about messaging surrounding potential vaccine side effects, but none of

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the information Alex is providing is in any way consistent with any of that stuff.

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Yeah, it's interesting when you are basing things on reality that have reference points,

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you can refer back to those if you forget details, you know.

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If you make up details.

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See now, if you make up details about things and then create a completely different thing

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based around it and then forget what that is, you can't go back and find it.

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Well, you certainly can't find the thing that says the thing you say it says.

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Exactly.

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But you can still say the name of the thing and convince people you have read it and know

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what you're talking about.

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You got it.

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I understand the basic pieces of information that Alex is trying to run with here and it's

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all bullshit, but I want to really drive home here that Alex doesn't even know the fake

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things he's talking about.

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He put out an emergency special report on Saturday where he started to get into this

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stuff.

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And here's what he said.

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And you know what makes me even more concerned?

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You know why I'm really freaked out.

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I'll be covering this on the Sunday show tomorrow, four to 6 p.m. with the document crimson contagion

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from four years ago, three years ago.

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They say in there that they're going to roll out a vaccine for a coronavirus and a year

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later it's going to turn out it kills a bunch of people.

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And they even say public health officials will step down and apologize and they're going

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to have new vaccines that will protect you from the variants that the mistaken failed

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vaccine creates.

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So he was just saying that it was crimson contagion on Saturday, which matches basically

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zero of the details he's describing.

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So I would guess, here's what I guess, I would guess that he decided he was going to really

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push crimson contagion super hard on Saturday.

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And then sometime in between then and the Sunday show, one of his interns or someone

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was like, you got the document wrong.

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You're talking about a different thing and that's why he corrected himself on the Sunday

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show.

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But here he is on Saturday, again, still just trying to push it as a crimson contagion.

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And if you read Crimson Contagion, if you read Event 201, if you read Operation Lockstep

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from the Rockefeller's and the Rockefeller Foundation is now in complete control of world

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policy.

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Really?

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Gates didn't move partially.

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Oh, I didn't know that.

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They talk about how it's all going to come out they did this and how they're going to

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spin that through fear to then make you want to take even more vaccines they've created.

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But the saviors are going to come to you who are against all of this, who have the new

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vaccine that will protect you from the last vaccine.

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Now that was in Crimson Contagion three, four years ago.

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Okay.

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Okay.

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I guess Bill Gates has been partially removed.

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I did not know that.

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He'd gone from being in the council of 12 to being mid-level management and now he's

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out of the game completely.

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I'm guessing if I were to ask Alex where he found out about this he'd say it's in the

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white papers or something and then I would just run into a wall.

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It would be a really interesting document to read if while you're reading it it's like

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and then when people read this document will make them afraid of the document in itself

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and you're like wait a second I'm reading the thing you're telling me I'm supposed to

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be afraid of now.

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It's a mirror in a mirror.

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Yeah.

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But I think that it's really important to understand how weak a grasp Alex has on these

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basic details about the primary sources that he's misusing.

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All these names are interchangeable for him because none of them actually are even real

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according to him.

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Yeah.

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In his world they aren't real.

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No they absolutely aren't.

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Over the course of his broadcasts he's created entirely fictional versions of Crimson Contagion,

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Event 201, and Spars and then he's just completely fabricated Operation Lockstep out of that

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Rockefeller document that he's never read.

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These documents are real and they're actually interesting to read but not for the reasons

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that Alex insists they are.

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Yeah.

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It's all fake.

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Yeah I mean the problem is he's created so many bullshit scenarios out of these two scenarios

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you know like he's written an entire universe filled with characters trying to kill you

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and all of these things and it's like The Simpsons but you know he can't remember any

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of the episodes so he just kind of picks and chooses whoever shows up and you're like no

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that's not where that goes man that's not where comic book guy is supposed to be comic

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book guy is back over there helping Bill Gates murder everybody why are you putting comic

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book guy in this episode you know?

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That I should tell you that on the Saturday show he does say that Bill Maher is starting

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to come around so he might be working on casting people against type.

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Now we're back on that.

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He's back on that.

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Now we're back on that.

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Secret patriot Bill Maher.

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Alright okay.

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Yikes.

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This is where I got worried.

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I was listening to this and I was like oh man Alex he might have prepared.

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This information I studied today like six hours and when I almost fell down I got dizzy

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when I contemplated when I stood up I almost had a nervous breakdown.

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Wow.

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So dramatic.

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He might have prepared today.

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So melodramatic.

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I don't know.

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Oh man.

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I was working on this for six hours and I got dizzy when I stood up.

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Dizzy when I stood up.

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It was so intense I got dizzy from the information.

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I don't know I don't know how how much harder he could try to convince people that he's

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doing anything.

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Oh boy.

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I have been working non-stop.

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I haven't slept for the past 48 hours and the last time that I stood up I lost one of

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my feet and then I grabbed it and I put it back on and I said I gotta go to work today!

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That's all because I've been reading globalist plans.

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What globalist plans?

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Oh you know.

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Ah come on.

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Crimson contagion.

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Ah listen I will get into it but I got dizzy the last time I learned about it so I can't

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talk.

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You don't want to risk that.

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You don't want to risk that.

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So he get Alex gets into a little bit of something I would call a little bit fear monger-ish as

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he comes back from break.

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Antibody dependent enhancement.

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That's the term you're going to get to know real real well when your friends your family

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and you bleed out and die in the near future.

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Oh okay.

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So antibody dependent enhancement is a real phenomenon that scientists do see at times

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but it's actually really funny that Alex is trying to connect the possibility to COVID

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vaccines for a number of reasons.

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The biggest of them is that the possibility of ADE was absolutely something the researchers

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and experts were discussing in the early stages of developing a vaccine.

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If there is an active pandemic giving people something that will make them respond worse

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to contact with viruses is going to be ultimately counterproductive and probably one of the things

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they're going to check off early.

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The best way to understand ADE is by talking about the first place it was identified which

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was in relation to dengue fever.

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There are four varieties or serotypes of dengue fever numbered one through four.

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If you get sick with dengue fever type one and then you survive your body will create

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antibodies that protect you from that serotype should you ever encounter it in the future.

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That's great news.

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However the problem is that if you run into serotype two three or four there's a decent

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chance that the antibodies you have against serotype one will actually enhance the ability

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of dengue fever to replicate and evade being neutralized inside your body.

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Oh okay.

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A secondary infection is actually really much worse.

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It's worse than yeah yeah yeah I gotcha.

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The concept is a bit more complicated than that but that's the basic idea of what the

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concerns are about ADE.

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In past studies there's been indications that SARS and MERS were two diseases whose treatment

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involved concerns about ADE.

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Since this new virus SARS-CoV-2 is closely related to those two that was an obvious question

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that people were discussing.

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You can find tons of papers on the subject from early in the time of when vaccines are

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starting to come around.

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Because the way he says it too is like antibody that's a term you're gonna get to know real

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well as your family's bleeding out and it's like no I won't because they already learned

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it real well.

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That's the point.

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You're the only person hearing about it for the first time blowing minds baby Jesus.

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Some early indications raised concerns that having vaccines that attack viral proteins

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of COVID had the potential to cause ADE which is one of the reasons that research skewed

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very heavily in the direction of mRNA vaccines and the targeting of spike protein instead

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of the viral.

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Alex is pretending this is some kind of a big issue that everyone's ignoring but it's

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not.

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The scientific community has kept the phenomenon well in mind and pandemic response has gone

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on and follow-up research on people who've been vaccinated and had breakthrough infections

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actually has shown that there really aren't signs of ADE with COVID.

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If there were ADE happening you would expect to see vaccinated people having more severe

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cases of COVID when they're exposed to the virus but in reality the cases among the vaccinated

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people are statistically less severe and have led to less hospitalizations and deaths which

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are very strong indications that ADE is not something that's in play.

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And I mean just the fact that the vaccine has documented effectiveness against new variants

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as well would suggest very obviously that it's not that huge a problem.

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If it were then we would see an increased or even greater negative reaction from the

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delta variant if you were vaccinated against whatever.

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I was listening to this and I thought that it was pretty clear that this is basically

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going to be how Alex explains away future deaths.

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He's going to say that they're all just people who are vaccinated who have ADE related issues

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where they got the vaccine and then they got the challenge of being exposed to COVID and

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the globalists killed them.

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Right.

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All right.

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Whatever.

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So here's some big news and I don't know but I don't think this is big news.

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You don't think it's big news?

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I don't think it's accurate.

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All right.

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All right I'm Alex Jones your host.

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This is a live Sunday August 1st 2021 transmission and let me just start right here with the

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big announcement.

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It is not debated by the CDC.

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It is not debated by the NIH National Institute of Health.

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It is not debated by the NIH or the British National Health Service or any of the major

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governments in the world that the so-called COVID-19 vaccinations whether they be a virus

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vector from Johnson & Johnson or AstraZeneca or whether they be an mRNA from Moderna or

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Pfizer all of them make you get COVID and make you shed COVID and make you create deadly

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variants and doesn't work.

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Well it's good to know that Alex has learned that AstraZeneca isn't an mRNA vaccine by

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this point.

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Yeah.

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That's an improvement.

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Good work.

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My counterpoint to all this is all of that would absolutely be debated by any of the

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groups that Alex listed.

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There's complete bullshit.

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Yeah that's an insane thing to say.

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So I'm going to lay out the claim that Alex is making just so we can parse this because

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it's really stupid.

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He's saying that all these different COVID vaccines one make you get COVID, two make

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you shed COVID, three make you create deadly variants and four don't work.

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Yes.

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None of this is true.

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How could four be true if one through three are true?

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That's one of my problems with actually the fourth point is like I don't know what not

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work means.

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Yeah I mean if it's too nonspecific for me to take seriously so I'm not even going to

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address it.

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Not just that but I mean if the point of it is to give people COVID shed COVID and then

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create deadly variants then it very clearly is working.

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Well that's why I don't care to engage.

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Fair enough.

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His version of work and mine could be different.

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Fair enough.

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As it very clearly is.

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With point three the claim that the vaccines make people create deadly variants of the

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virus that just doesn't stand up to scrutiny either.

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The variants that we're seeing identified now came into existence before the vaccines

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were developed and administered so I guess unless he has some other mystery variants

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that he's talking about I'm not going to take this seriously either.

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Get the fuck out of here.

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Point one just isn't true the vaccines don't make you get COVID.

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That's not how vaccines work!

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No.

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So this leaves us with point two about shedding virus which is the only part that even comes

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close to being interesting.

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Some recent preprint studies have shown some indications that it's possible for people

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who have been vaccinated but end up catching a breakthrough case of the Delta variant they

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could be as infectious as unvaccinated persons.

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This is a matter that we are definitely we need more data on before we can jump to any

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solid conclusions but it's something that makes it clear that we should all be cautious.

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Sure.

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These same studies that suggest this possibility also found quote viral loads decreased faster

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in the vaccinated group so either way there appears to be concrete public health advantages

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to being vaccinated even if it isn't a magic silver bullet and even if we're learning along

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the way new things that we were not aware of.

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Of course.

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There are serious concerns that merit discussion about potential challenges we're still facing

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with the coronavirus but to act the way that Alex is acting does a complete disservice

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towards anyone's ability to engage with this material in a serious way.

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If you get information from him you have to sift through all this bullshit in order to

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reach one thing that's being discussed poorly which is the idea that if you're vaccinated

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you still might be contagious.

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You can get the information that you need from better places without having to dig through

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a pile.

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Uh yeah I mean I can't imagine like an emergency broadcast alert suddenly breaking in while

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you're while you're watching some dumb reality show like Survivor and then the government's

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like you're gonna die you're gonna die you're gonna die you're gonna die anyways just so

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you know it's a possibility that breakthrough infections could be a problem you're gonna

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die you're gonna die you're gonna die and it's like that's what Alex is doing.

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Yeah and I don't know how useful that is also it doesn't help me also if the emergency broadcast

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system was fucking moody as hell if it had bad days I don't even fucking care if you

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guys make it through this emergency maybe we all should die hey hey maybe it's not an

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emergency maybe I'm fucking with you who knows maybe I should join the tornado oh god FDR's

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fireside chats of just a moody Alex all right so we're fighting this fucking war I don't

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even know does anybody even hate the Nazis anymore I don't know whatever look maybe access

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power should win I don't know maybe maybe the depression is great how about that maybe

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it's a great depression huh the ratings on my fireside chats are down and I am pissed

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about it yeah that would be great that would be awesome courageous leaders yeah I would

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love the reimaginings of of like historical figures with the temperament of a moody Alex

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Jones yes absolutely god we would have never gotten anything done oh good stuff so there's

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some side effects and what have you uh from vaccines but I do believe that Alex might

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be exaggerating this is all a test to see what they can do to you just like they said

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six months ago it's a rare heart condition a rare blood clot in the brain a rare stroke

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no it's in the majority of people because it starts growing protein crystals you don't

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have a virus you get given protein crystals what that's what the spike protein is and

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your body starts growing it and in every case they've done this it kills the lab animals

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the vast majority they knew what they did like if you poured a gallon of gas now yourself

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struck a match what's gonna happen you're gonna burn to death or if you took a shotgun

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and put it in your mouth and pull the trigger you're gonna blow your head off see this and

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that's that's why I'm so shocked is this is 100% known like eating a teaspoon of cyanide

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with your iced tea you're gonna be dead in two minutes I laid my hand out on this table

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took a hatchet right to my fingers just gonna cut them off Alex seems like intrigued by

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the idea of cause and effect yes it's it's kind of concerning me that this is blowing

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people's minds in his in his eyes he's like I need to illustrate cause and effect causal

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relationships four times in order for this to really sink in let me let's you know what

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actually let's start with entropy okay so the universe is four dimensional space and

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we don't even experience time I mean is it yeah it's like if you drop something and it

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falls to the ground it's like what's that what's that is that John Mulaney's ice cube

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bit so this is her iced tea bit this is a little bit much I mean first of all just sort

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of from a presentation standpoint I find it hilarious but there have been hundreds of

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millions of vaccines administered in the United States the majority are absolutely not experiencing

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heart attacks strokes or death all nonsense of them also Alex is trying to make this point

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he does it this clip didn't fully capture it but there's this idea that they skipped

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animal trials that he pushes fairly regularly and they didn't they just were allowed to

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overlap animal trials with phase one trials because of the nature of the public health

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emergency they passed animal trials with no problems but that information was largely

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ignored because we were more excited about the human part of it that would be the one

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we were looking for yeah yeah it's it's it was paled in comparison to the idea that even

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further progress was being made yeah no I remember reading tons of stories that were

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like scientists stoked by good vaccine results in tested animals and I was like that's awesome

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why now me me now quicker if something had gone wrong with like the animal trials as

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phase one trials were overlapping with them we've been back to the drawing board imagine

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if something had gone wrong and do you do you really think you would have expected it

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I exactly well not just that I would not have surprised many people it would have been an

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emotional blow certainly but I think the people would be like yeah yeah that's how science

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works happen you fuck you you try and it sometimes it works and sometimes it doesn't that's part

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of the game yeah failure is how you learn but those would have been very loud they would

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have been everywhere and Alex would have run with them for ever you bet so the fact that

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he didn't proves that it didn't happen because he didn't do it when it would have yeah so

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Alex as a study doesn't doesn't I I really this is this is frustrating so I've got the

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actual CDC study here I'm not gonna just show you articles info wars calm I'm gonna show

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you the actual study overhead shot please why you can't CDC release a study showing

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three-fourths of Delta cases are among the vaccinated says mask of the answer more lies

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from the same people it goes on to say 74% of the individuals that have tested positive

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took the vaccine and it goes on into all the different sloughing off of new more deadly

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variants of the virus which all these top scientists warn would be the case so that

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parts not at the end they're not really accurate nope so what he's talking about here was a

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targeted study surrounding a cluster of cases that occurred in the wake of quote multiple

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summer events and large public gatherings in a town of Barnstable County Massachusetts

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there are important questions to ask about this cluster and I would not begrudge anyone

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raising concerns about what this sort of thing could imply but that is not what Alex is doing

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he's misreporting and making leaps in his coverage that are unearned for instance the

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way he's covering the story you'd be led to believe that this has to do with 74% of all

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Delta variant cases being among vaccinated persons that's how he's speaking what he'd

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say the CDC has a report that 74% of Delta cases are exactly there and they're liars

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so you know they're telling the truth well this time they are what yeah because it works

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for sure it helps me so they're telling the truth Alex is missing the appropriate context

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that this was just about four hundred sixty nine people who tested positive after attending

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events in Provincetown the 74% number is definitely worth looking at and it is a concern but this

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study does not involve a representative sample that you can extrapolate to the rest of the

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world there's far more information we need to track down before this number could be

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understood and it's really full proper context if you read the actual CDC report you'll find

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a very important note that it's key to remember quote data from this report are insufficient

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to draw conclusions about the effectiveness of COVID-19 vaccines against SARS-CoV-2 including

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the Delta variant during this outbreak as population level vaccination coverage increases

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vaccinated persons are likely to represent a larger portion of COVID-19 cases yeah this

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is to say that if in this series of events in Provincetown there was a ninety five percent

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vaccination rate you would expect the total number of infections you'd see in an outbreak

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to be low the total number but the proportion of those infected who are vaccinated would

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be higher right this is because no vaccine is a perfect effectiveness rating and also

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that's just how statistics work yeah Provincetown is a place in Massachusetts that's well known

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as a very LGBTQ friendly environment and if I had to bet I would say that it's a place

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you'd find pretty high vaccination rates so you know in the event of an outbreak happening

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in a place like that it doesn't surprise me too much that the percentage of people who

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are vaccinated would be high yeah that's what you would expect yeah I've read that I've

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read too many takes on that and very few people are applying the very rigorous context that

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needs to be applied before you can even engage with that information without terrifying people

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but it's still something that you should you know absolutely nothing no no it is very important

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and if you understand it within the full context of what it is then it's very interesting and

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something that needs to be looked at and studied but if you are just reading a WAPO headline

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then you're fucking terrified yeah and there's another there's another important thing and

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that is that if you take you know you take that number the 346 vaccinated persons having

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breakthrough cases in this outbreak if you only focus on that number you're missing an

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important figure which is how many vaccinated persons might have been exposed to the virus

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and didn't get sick yeah in the course of these public gatherings and large events I'm

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not saying that any of this makes the story like less a matter for concern or something

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people shouldn't be focusing on but it's just critical in these times to take this stuff

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in the proper context yeah and not extrapolate this out to 74% of cases or vaccinated yeah

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yeah I'm concerned quite frankly about unknown unknowns obviously of course how can you not

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be I barely left my house this past week because Lollapalooza was happening yeah this city

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was a mess yeah I was stoked to be in the woods while Lollapalooza was happening yeah

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it's rational to be concerned but it's irresponsible to behave the way Alex is doing and disseminate

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information that way yeah it's just it only can lead people to make dumb ill-informed

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decisions yeah yeah so when I say something like that I mean to emphasize it and I can't

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do I can't emphasize it any more than Alex can himself give four examples of cause and

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effect to emphasize this he already did that okay but here I actually didn't understand

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cause and effect until I started okay well let me give you an idea now I'm on the table

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hatchet problems I'm still working on object permanence cause Alex doesn't have that one

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doubt I fought myself in a mirror the other day so Alex says that you know he gets he

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gets onto another story that is about a similar theme that is like unvaccinated people are

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getting getting sick sure sure sure and the what he uses as a source here unbelievable

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let's look at some other countries see what they found cause I don't just believe the

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CDC look at this Andrew Bostman MDMS I linked three right to the government of Finland Finnish

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hospital just one example c19 delta variant outbreak 103 infections among CACW's inpatients

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and 18 elderly inpatient deaths two-thirds of infection 66% and 70 and 67% occurred

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in those partially or fully vaccinated with mRNA vaxxed and I got stacks of these I beg

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anyone who takes Alex Jones seriously to consider how sloppy and lazy this process is instead

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of actually looking into any primary sources on Finland or any possible outbreaks that

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have happened there what you just heard is how Alex has decided to present this story

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this is Alex reading a tweet from an unverified account that's allegedly run by a guy who

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either holds MD and MS degrees or is claiming to have houses in Maryland and Mississippi

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this is not how someone who takes their job seriously would operate so I found the tweet

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and Alex is legitimately just reading the body of this guy's tweet which was accompanied

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by a screenshot and a link to a euro surveillance article okay this is not me nitpicking or

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being an asshole like Alex is not reporting on the study he's reporting on a tweet he's

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not read the study he has no idea the words he's reading what they even mean he doesn't

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know what HCW means it's that great it's that great level of right-wing nonsense where you

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can just take a random dude with 20 followers tweeting there were three million illegals

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voting and turn it into the number one narrative that people throw around a fucking election

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but it's it's a mess and it's such shitty work that I don't even know why I found the

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study and read it but suffice it to say it's another very small snapshot of an outbreak

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that happened at a secondary care hospital in Finland in May of this year 45 healthcare

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workers and 58 patients ended up contracting COVID and if you look at the data one of the

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things that jumps out as possibly most concerning is that people who were only partially vaccinated

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might have a higher risk of with the Delta variant 48 out of the 103 cases were among

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people who are only partially vaccinated as compared to 35 who are unvaccinated and 20

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who are fully vaccinated there's other dynamics between the like health care workers and patients

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the drastic age discrepancies of those groups the variables are yeah again it's something

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to keep an eye on but you know this is not just a case study that you can read a tweet

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about and assume that it applies to the entire like general population there are zero case

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studies you can read a tweet about and then just extrapolate from there this must be true

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of all the world i'll just take this tweet at its word boo oh boy so um alex gets back

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to teasing this uh this british article i think he thinks he hasn't actually talked

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about it even though he opened the show right right all right so we've got all of this coming

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up tonight and then the really big news the british official government agency responding

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to bio threats has come out ladies and gentlemen and said mutants from the vaccinated may create

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a super strain that they believe will kill 2.6 plus billion people that's the headline

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info wars dot com oh it's also equally likely that it'll mutate into something that is harmless

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yeah yeah well there's that sometimes you know part of uh and this is going to blow

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everybody's everybody's minds about here you know like you know when you evolve it's like

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to survive and to like propagate and to continue and sometimes one way to evolve is to not

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kill your host and then just keep going you know another way to evolve is to kill your

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host but sure could go either way so um when's the last time you remember alex saying he

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figured it all out a week two weeks i don't know i mean maybe in my dreams it was last

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night it happens a lot it happens all the time every like at least three four times

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a month yeah alex will come into studio and say that he's finally figured it all out i

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got it it took me a long time and i know i've said this before so much that you might not

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believe me this time but i believe it but this time he definitely has and here here

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is what's going on man this is it's nefarious okay his enemies have it's a who's who of

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elite scientists saying this is insane and basically everybody that's taking the shot

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is going to be an invalid if they're lucky a lot of you are going to be dead so now they're

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getting ready to start giving you for the rest of your life i guess blood thinners and

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other stuff i mean they have really hurt you bad i've always wanted thinner blood and you're

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like that will collapse society that'll that's what the globalists want they don't care what

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happens to joe biden they don't care what happens to they want to bring down civilization

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they want a post-industrial world how do you do it you kill billions of people you make

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billions of people sick and that'll collapse civilization everybody else will be scared

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to go into work or be around anybody or be around the vaccinated this is a psychological

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weapon of fear it's put to destroy confidence in the government you think the u.s government

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will ever have credibility again when this all comes out and it finally all clicked this

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morning and it's why i i actually got dizzy well you've heard like women will get told

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hey your husband was just found dead and the woman will stagger back and fall over i've

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been studying all day and when this all crystallized my mind like a thousand points plus a thousand

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i actually got dizzy and i was stumbling around and it all hit me i had to sit down i thought

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you were dizzy that's why they did it during trump and got him to sign on to it to discredit

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trump and nationalism and patriotism oh wow populism and they knew that trump would be

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so pig-headed he'll keep defending it even as it starts killing everybody you're you

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that you're talking to you really know what they're doing i mean these he just described

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all the stuff that he did he just described all the stuff that he did it's it's very sad

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um although it's it's hilarious the end of that clip being like these are sophisticated

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people after he lays out the stupidest shit i've heard oh my god yeah that is that's so

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annoying that's so annoying because he's making it up and then he's complimenting himself

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yeah that's the problem no he's giving himself a compliment about how brilliant his enemies

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are because the plan he made up for them to have is also brilliant yes and the plan that

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he came up for them with them to have yes is something about how like his world view

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and his god king are so important and so powerful that the globalists needed to use a worldwide

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plague in order to discredit have to discredit trump that's what we had to do that's the

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man that is a level of narcissism that's really hard to wrap your head around that's exactly

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the word i would use yeah it's so uh so small-minded yeah yeah yeah that's that's that level of

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delusion where anywhere other how you get to do that for our job a pandemic this must

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be about me i know that's what i'm saying if you didn't have this for if alex wasn't

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doing this if he was just a person at a at your job you'd be like we need to talk to

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doctors about you yes this is what needs to happen yeah somehow you can just either okay

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either we all agree you go talk to doctors or you get a show those are the only two things

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that we can do for people with your level of delusion well i should tell you that a

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plane just crashed in malaysia and somehow this was an attack on me i guess we're gonna

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have to give you a show then now i can tell you exactly about how this plane crash relates

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to me but i don't have time because i prepared too much you prepared too much about it and

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i gotta go to break just know that they're willing to kill me because of this plane crash

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yeah and what i know about it so alex has proven his points and uh i think he thinks

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he still hasn't talked talked about this british british story and again if you're a new listener

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it is completely confirmed absolutely confirmed even mainstream news the vaccine doesn't help

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you hurts you and makes you spread all this other garbage just what all the scientists

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said over a year ago what happened and it's just a giant trap a giant bear trap we're

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all caught in and i haven't even hit the new news sage that's the big government agency

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in the uk they say that the vaccinated could trigger a new super variant that kills 2.625

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billion stay with us policy of truth baby awful i don't know i don't know what he considers

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covering a story but from my experience him reading a headline is about as deep as he

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gets sometimes he'll riff on some stuff every now and again um he's covered this story according

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to my estimation at least three or four times in this episode i haven't gotten to this news

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yet yeah i think you have uh i mean in in many ways you haven't uh but i suppose it

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by your definition you have he's gotten to it as much as he's ever going to yes that's

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a good way of putting it he said the number he did he kept repeating 2.2 2.65 billion

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yeah i love the idea that no one would do anything about that that like as as millions

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of people are dying everybody's gonna be like well let's just wait let's just ride this

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out and see how many go down like there's even if it was this there would be a very

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serious reaction long before we ever hit 1 billion people well i mean i i mean i do remember

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when alex and all of his people and people in his intellectual and political sphere were

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saying let's just keep going and not do anything so i mean i can't kind of imagine that because

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it did happen that's fair that's fair so i was like all right i don't understand why

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alex thinks he hasn't covered this story but i i'm you know it was getting a little bit

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repetitive and then the exact opposite thing happened and then there was a story that i

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was begging him to get into and it just i hate i hate him the heads of major medical

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schools the dean of the of the baylor medical school that's one of the that's a top 10 medical

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school saying this is crazy and evil and wrong she's just out today so i have no idea here

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what alex is talking about like there's multiple deans of different medical i don't know what

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that even medical schools within baylor and i found one guy who dr peter uh jotez uh-huh

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he's uh had a lot of comments about misinformation being horrible during the pandemic i'm not

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i don't think that can possibly be the person who who alex is talking about i assume alex

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would be more angry at that person i don't know he said she though and the like the the

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guy who i'm talking about dr jotez he is the the dean of the school of tropical medicine

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okay and so the actual dean of the school of medicine the other school of medicine is

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dr jennifer christner he could be talking about her but i don't know what she said i

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can't find anything but to imagine that you have this guy who's super anti-misinformation

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about uh about covid and about the the pandemic yeah and then this other person who's like

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it's all evil they're both teens in the baylor school of medicine it's like holy shit that

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is diversity of opinion that's true that's true that's exactly what the right says doesn't

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exist in higher education so i don't know i but at the same time like i'm listening

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to this episode and without going on too deep of a wild goose chase i i don't know who he's

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talking about i suppose if i was a vindictive propagandist i would find somebody uh saying

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that misinformation was a real problem to be offensive to me uh and also accurate and

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so i would then include them in my misinformation as an insult that could be what he's doing

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i'm not sure and maybe we'll learn more as the episode goes on but at this point alex

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has a guest um it's a gentleman by the name of chris skye he's a canadian weirdo okay

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uh we're not gonna listen to much of him okay because he's a canadian weirdo all right so

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chris skye back in september of last year was extremely prescient looking at their own

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government documents that have been confirmed to be real where they're talking about the

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permanent lockdown and a permanent dictatorship since he was last on in fact i forgot it guys

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get the nova scotia health minister says we need to stop people demonstrating stop people

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going outside keep lockdowns he said to stop people talking that clip was actually about

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a press conference where they're talking about easing restrictions yeah so it seems like

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chris skye was not right well it's interesting when you have like a claim that put lockdowns

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are permanent and the thing that you come up with to reinforce your claim is something

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that says the opposite yeah it's strange vindictive propagandist also chris skye he's a real weirdo

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he's a uh he's a fellow whose dad runs a successful real estate development business in canada

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and he's mysteriously the vice president of said company he also has no kids yet he runs

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a group called mothers against social distancing uh he got arrested this year for allegedly

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threatening to kill a bunch of people well shooting them in the head but of course this

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is a setup according to him well naturally there's an awesome article in vice by uh mick

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lamoureux about his plan to uh he's gonna he wanted to start a bunch of anti-mask schools

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you might think that he was doing this with uh money out of his own like his own money

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because he's kind of heart and he's charitable i don't think so no he was gonna raise the

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funds with a gofundme yeah that doesn't surprise me yep yeah according to the article quote

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in the enrollment agreement he shared parents must accept that their kids might be taught

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by volunteer teachers with no personal accreditations but with expert uh with experience in education

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that is a tough sell especially when you consider that in the description section of the go

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fund me that he was using to start the schools he misspelled public school as pubic welcome

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to trump university also just because this is really fun here's another thing from the

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article uh quote sky didn't respond to a detailed list of questions sent by vice news about

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his projects after the questions were sent sky made several social media posts about

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an upcoming vice news story about him in which he implied i was a pedophile and george soros

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directly ordered me to write this piece and shared my phone number to his followers

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cool guy cool guy this yeah chris guy yeah yeah yeah that's how you prove you're innocent

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anyway he's a flamboyant anti-mask character and he's got a cool neck tattoo so he's got

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a bit of online attention for him and so he's been hanging out with alex a little bit god

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they're just yelling about that is that is grounds for parental divorce if i've ever

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heard them like if your parents are like hey we're sending you to chris sky school you

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can be like i'm leaving you goodbye i'm getting a divorce from my parents goodbye emancipation

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yeah so uh we're not gonna listen to any clips of chris guy because i don't really care except

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for unless he wants to come on and pitch his schools then we might have to listen i want

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a press conference where he is peppered with questions about school in general i don't

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think alex would give him the most adversarial interview on the subject but i i'd be interested

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anyway i if it's just gonna be cookie cutter anti-mask shit i can get that anywhere he's

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not that interesting no um and after he leaves the baler medical school comes back up yeah

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i mean we're talking about three university heads i've got clips of the baler medical

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school two other top heads coming out and saying the shots are deadly don't do it it's

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a disaster all these other top scientists i i probably watched four hours today of six

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seven hours of research of just clips of medical doctors and scientists and i tracked down

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their curriculum vitae and they'd be who they said they were and matched with the research

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in the documents in the cdc saying 74 of the new covid cases are people that are vaccinated

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and they're worse and most of the deaths are in them i don't like how the first step of

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his research was like they're not an imposter yep yep checks out i looked at their picture

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id they're a real person also on the same show that he's uh leading his reporting on

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this story from finland with a tweet yeah so great yeah that seven hours has paid off

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awesome um i still don't know what's going on with this baler situation there's three

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deans i'm interested there are deans i'm interested i want to know what he's talking

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about there are deans oh he's got me on the hook there's deans so alex talks about one

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of the things that he does best and that's predict things um he believes that predictions

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are the best way to wake up the sheeple out there because they come true and then you

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blow minds right and that's really convenient to do whenever you don't bring up all the

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things you've been massively wrong about constantly there's that one yeah yeah i mean if you have

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to answer for all of your record that's trouble it's really easy to make predictions and get

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them wrong and then still claim your right whenever you never face consequences for your

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actions yeah yeah it's easy to be a sniper when you're allowed to use like carpet bombing

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yes absolutely and then yeah you didn't hit everything around i didn't hit anything at

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all yeah no so anyway alex is like i'm really into predictions and yeah predictions are

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king because you're already awake you listened you heard it you did your own research when

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we're able to get the predictions i made and chris skye made and mike adams made all of

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which were wrong dr woo dark and dr ye don and all these guys that's what wakes sheeple

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up okay when they see it that finally gets them to wake up that's what wakes the people

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up man them sheeps you gotta lie to them exploit them emotionally and then they'll wake up

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to the things that aren't true now granted i would say this if bill clinton ended up

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being the secretary general of the united nations and then president of the united states

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again after hillary had two terms i would probably be freaking out that alex call evaluate

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everything i've ever known about anything ever that would fundamentally shatter my understanding

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of human beings forever yes so yeah i mean there is that one possibly i would no we forget

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those bad ones and we just pretend that these vague things that he said are are accurate

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yeah people always like to go to those nostradamus predictions that are a little bit vague and

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have plenty of room for interpretation however you want them to go you bet yep so um unfortunately

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i have bad news uh mike adams is on um but actually i i kind of i was thinking about

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it and i kind of enjoy mike adams appearances now okay because i kind of understand him

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better okay he's just a dramatic like adolescent yeah he has almost i would say the emotional

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maturity of somebody who's in maybe not a senior in high school like a junior he's one

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of those people who got rich enough where they don't have to grow up i don't know i

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mean i'm sure he's responsible and like him you know he holds down whatever his his businesses

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are and stuff and i don't think he's stupid by any stretch i just think that he comes

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in and there it's just everything is so over the top yeah and i kind of enjoy that and

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and and there is this fun narrative too that's gone through the pandemic with him being alex's

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best friend at the beginning right and then alex tried to see if he could hang out with

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david ike david ike was saying that there was no virus right and then mike adams got

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mad and went away for a while and now he's back and alex isn't hanging out with david

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ike anymore jesus and it's just there's just a weird fun high school thing going on there

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is there is it's so frustrating that this petty bullshit also comes along with high

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school drama yep and also david ike still has a section on alex's website where he is

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posting videos for no one to watch about how there is no virus which is great i'm glad

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alex is still uh platforming yeah what are you gonna do kick him off can't censor anybody

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i guess you could ease much more easily with david ike than than nick fuentes i think um

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anyway um a year ago you may recall mike adams isn't coming to the fray here in a minute

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sure um but a year ago they were saying that hospitals were full yes they weren't bullshit

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is bullshit right but now they are a year ago when they said all the hospitals were

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full they weren't we sent people to them folks went and showed it this year i've got friends

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and family that work in hospitals i've got crew that work in hospitals one of the staff

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here's wife works at one it's full of people that can't breathe it's full of people dying

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and guess what they're all inoculated just like the numbers show so it's just what mike

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adams and i and others said the shot will make you sick then they'll blame the un-inoculated

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for it they've done it we're now here so this this is this is an interesting reality that

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uh that he has us living in no i reject it i reject it entirely this is unfair fuck him

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fuck that fuck that so hard fuck that just fuck that fair now we remember that mike adams

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declared it over for humanity and there would only be lone survivors a ways back he has

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a new prediction uh that may rival i don't know it's you can never de-escalate from it's

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over for humanity it's really hard to de-escalate from there this is still a little bit silly

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and i'll i'll say here right now today events have already been put into place we're going

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to see millions of people dead in the next 12 to 36 months because of these vaccines

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and it cannot be stopped wow many people today are walking dead it cannot be stopped what

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a prediction these events have been put into to motion they're you know within the next

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couple of years millions dead from the vaccine um that would still be way better than if

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we didn't have the fucking vaccine conceivably but uh it also is outrageously inaccurate

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oh it's complete bullshit but i mean i guess we'll see um i'm gonna guess that this is

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one of the predictions that is gonna go in the bill clinton as secretary general basket

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probably gonna forget we did this one i think they're gonna let that one go yup so mike

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blew my mind uh for a little while uh he he seems to think that there's a bigger plan

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going on right so all these news reports that are coming out about how people who are vaccinated

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can still you know the delta variant you might get it it might be transmissible there's something

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behind it they're really trying to they're trying to cause they're trying to cause a

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reaction okay the reason they've done this and the reason that they've admitted now over

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the last week that these vaccines don't work and that they're causing the spread of these

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uh so-called delta strains the reason they're doing this is because they want an uprising

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in america this is bait they want an uprising even among those who were vaccinated and then

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are now angry and coming to their senses and saying what we were lied to they want a massive

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uprising because they need a justification for a military style martial law crackdown

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in order to cover their tracks because their entire globalist system is about to implode

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and many of them are going to go to prison or be tried under neuron 2.0 yeah so apparently

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apparently uh they are telling everyone that the vaccines don't work in order to try and

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get people to freak out and rebel and that can be put down by a military coup or some

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sort of uh martial law and that will distract from the fact that the vaccine didn't don't

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work and i i don't know i just these are really sophisticated people that's what we're dealing

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with we're dealing with geniuses yeah i mean it's a fun story it's not it's not that fun

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a story it's a fine story i wouldn't read it what kind of uprising are they what kind

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of uprising are they looking for you know like do they have a boutique uprising that

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they want that would be optimal for them or do they do they want more like a graduated

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insurgency kind of thing oh you know that burning down a police station isn't enough

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to bring in uh martial law so i don't know what they're trying to uh i don't know i mean

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not even trying to overthrow the government installed martial law oh yeah good point so

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there's that yeah anyway uh mike believes that if you've been vaccinated and this is

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actually something he's been saying quite a bit on the show this this is something i

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remember hearing him say even a ways back is basically like you're a biological weapon

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oh no the people who've been vaccinated are walking incubation vessels for deadly bioweapons

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that are being spread it's all happening on purpose the so-called vaccines are really

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gene therapy injections which are highly illegal humans are now petri dishes or farms for this

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colonizing creature that's right that's right oh boy better not uh better not explore this

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logic to its uh to its conclusion where for the sake of protecting everyone you might

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have to kill vaccinated people great yeah they're they're at this place now where they're

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like they've taken carl roves you know that that uh turn a strength into a weakness that

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swift boat kind of thing you know you're a veteran so destroy that credibility they have

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just turned that on reality itself just a complete like if you're vaccinated you're

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the one who's incubating the virus and spreading it see ha ha ha it's definitely not all of

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us unvaccinated people who spread it around all the time because we don't even fucking

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believe that it's real it's definitely not us it's you guys who are evil who are spreading

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the disease this strategy shouldn't uh surprise you at all and alex worked with jerome coursey

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for years it doesn't it wasn't one of the swift boaters you know but it's just like

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i i it's so direct attack on reality just a fucking shot right at the face of reality

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not trying to avoid it or even allow for it to come into existence yeah it's so fucking

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intense so i gave mike a little bit too much credit too early yes i told you that he was

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blowing my mind and i gotta be honest those clips that i played are not blowing my mind

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they weren't doing much for me now we're gonna get into it mike brings some heavy shit here

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you might notice that all these woke corporations right yeah all these corporations that are

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like really woke the ones that donated trump's campaign no no other kind of woke okay they're

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making their employees get vaccinated yes that's very woke there's a reason oh the the

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real shocker here has have you noticed over the last week that all of the so-called woke

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corporations have now demanded mandatory vaccines among their own workers so we're talking facebook

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google twitter disney walmart even the washington post and many other corporations like that

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they know that they are ordering the vaccine slaughter of their own people interesting

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strategies and you ask why why would they do that well at google in particular and by

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the way zach voorhees has been a guest on your show explaining all of this at google

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the humans have been teaching google's machine learning systems and ai systems for the last

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five years how to no longer need humans in the loop when it comes to moderation they

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don't want to have humans around that know how to counter the knowledge the enemy that

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lowers the the traitor that lowers the drawbridge always gets executed by the army that takes

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over i gotta say i think i think that might be the first time you stood up laughing that

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was a big one that one got you i wasn't ready for it i wasn't ready for it no i wasn't ready

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for him to respond to that like the twist in a sci-fi movie where all of a sudden it

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all comes into play this is chamalani this is not fucking oceans 11 where they reveal

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the plan at the end what are you guys fucking yeah it's all these world corporations are

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trying to kill off their employees with vaccines okay so you could lay off people right uh

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or you could kill them all yeah yeah okay okay interesting strategy from google we're

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gonna see how this one plays out going forward yeah wow i i don't i don't think this deserves

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an uh but whatever all right mike cool cool you got anything else you got anything else

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let's hear it the globalists are now acting as if they have knowledge of a global level

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mass extinction type of event or threat probably one that they are going to unleash and they

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want to make sure that there are billions fewer human beings around when that happens

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because they can't control billions of people once people realize they've been lied to and

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they've been poisoned and they're being killed i'm going to elaborate on this because you're

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going way out third dimensional chess you're absolutely right they're acting like third

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dimensional is to their head to go ahead and get rid of us now because what's going to

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happen is so destabilizing they know that that could organize into a new political group

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that challenges them so they're acting like that there there will be no resources very

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soon they're acting very desperate yeah my apologies i i do tend to just leap ahead because

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you and i have a knowledge base and your listeners have a knowledge so much that the average

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american is just clueless about so i i do tend to leap ahead but look look man we are

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so smart that sometimes i go a to c on you like a very good improv troop basically we're

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making those jesus those big leaps oh man um so i was a little confused yeah and yeah

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thankfully mike mike is uh it is nothing if not a teacher let's clarify this yeah let's

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just say as a thought experiment that a giant asteroid we're going to hit the planet i'm

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not saying that's going to happen but let's just say that we're going to happen in 500

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days let's say and the globals knew about it would they tell the people no they would

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never tell you you wouldn't know until you see it in the sky a giant flaming mountain

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like in the book of revelation you know the reason they wouldn't tell you is because the

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globalists need the infrastructure to function so they can continue to stockpile food and

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parts and fuel and all the things that they need on their private islands and underground

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cities and caves and everything last minute to build up their stock exactly because we

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right now why exactly they have everything now if they told all of it people they have

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it all giant mountain falling out of the sky in 500 days and again i'm not that's not my

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prediction it's just a thought experiment but if they told people that everybody would

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stop working everybody would go home and decide you know how do i want to spend my last 500

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days on this planet probably with your family or something right mike let's stop for a minute

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you're not you're you're an engineer so you're looking at math like you're war gaming the

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way they're behaving is like this is already going to happen exactly yes we can infer from

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their behavior why are they going to the private islands why are they building the underground

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tunnels releasing something would kill so many people as i've said because there's gonna

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be something bigger coming this is wild this is watching nine-year-olds argue over a book

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report that neither of them did yeah and honestly i think the only way that this can be described

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as a thought experiment is if you're like well mike's experimenting with thinking yes

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yes he's really trying he's playing third dimensional chess i will say that yeah so

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according to mike the globalists would never tell the public if an asteroid were going

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to collide with the earth because they need infrastructure to continue to exist until

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the last minute so they can stockpile resources in their bunkers or whatever if they told

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people uh you know all in the public that they had x amount of time before imminent

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demise people would just stop working and spend time with their families which would

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hurt the globalist's ability to get those last minute supplies they apparently need

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in their bunkers wow parts what food and parts what a great like here's here's the best part

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of that here's the best part of that is that they truly believe that an extinction level

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event would would be like listen guys we gotta wait three business days before the money

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transfers into our uh live over the end of the world account look we can't end the world

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yet my food is exactly it's in the refrigerator truck what am i supposed to do with that it's

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delayed oh god we gotta wait till the world and push the asteroid back push it back what

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am i supposed to be in my bunker without this fresh fruit oh my god oh my god 4g 4g reception

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is all i have in my bunker right now do you really think i'm gonna live out the end of

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the world with that no it's it's amazing jesus simultaneously though this entire show and

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mike's initial point has to do with public messaging around the pandemic shifting to

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the globalists admitting that the vaccines don't work and that everyone's gonna die according

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to mike's own thought experiment the globalists are acting in a way that they never would

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if a disaster truly were imminent this shit's about to go really bad and if that's the case

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there would be stories about breakthrough cases and the delta variant and stuff i don't

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understand and honestly this stuff is the most infantile nonsensical garbage but i do

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kind of like listening to this because alex and him really seem like they're having a

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good time they really do that's the problem that's the problem they're both they're both

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like bouncing off each other like yeah this is great bullshit we're spitting right here

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this is the good stuff they like to blow each other's minds you know when alex says that

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someone's like he in this in this episode he says that like mike adams has a you know

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he has a farm here in texas and he's a good friend i believe that i do i and it makes

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me sadder that he couldn't come on the show when alex was pretending the covet maybe didn't

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exist because they do have a good time with each other in ways that like steve pacenik

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there's a power imbalance totally and alex abuses a bunch of other guests talks over

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them and doesn't doesn't give them a chance to say stupid shit like mike yeah i think

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he and him and mike actually are probably friends yeah yeah he and mike have the relationship

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that owen thinks alex and owen have yeah yeah but alex knows that owen's his little baby

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boy yeah owen can't riff like mike can no coming up with this good stuff what are you

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fucking talking oh it's never gonna get a no oh it's never getting enough so uh poor

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owen uh mike has some more thoughts and alex why do they not care that they are absolutely

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destroying the reputation of the cdc the fda the vaccine industry the biden regime itself

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answer because none of those things exist in their plan in a few universities they don't

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care about banks they don't care about the fbi that's right yeah those are the only things

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they care about exactly and they don't care about how much money they print because they

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know they're going to collapse the dollar anyway okay so the the next couple years all

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this stuff is going to be gone according to their plans and uh dollars gone as well this

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is like the grand unified field theory of shit i don't know that's just what they're

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they're just like okay all this stuff that i don't know i don't think they care about

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the banks is the craziest thing i've ever heard anybody say they're not concerned with

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the reputation of the thing i've been smearing for years insane just insane level of shit

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where they can say this and their brains don't explode yeah it's mind-boggling it's unfair

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it is it's unfair yeah and another thing that's unfair is this next clip okay great transition

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so one of the things that we we've been doing these episodes in 2003 and one of the reasons

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is i want to know if alex thought he was fighting the literal devil in 2003 and the reason that

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i want to know that is because he's made it abundantly clear that he does think that yes

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in the present absolutely and when he says stuff like this i just want to throw a brick

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at my computer let me use another analogy they made a deal with aliens they're going

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to blow the planet up in up two years whatever it is they built them a spaceship and they're

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leaving and then they've just got a deal they get the spaceship they help kill us quietly

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and you know make sure nobody wakes up and challenges it and i'm not saying that's what's

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happening but what mike is saying is true they're acting like everybody's dead and it's

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all over unless they basically call us off we'll be right back i mean folks i'm telling

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you mike adams is on fire today alex he can't duck behind that i'm not saying that this

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is what though what's going on what they believe he's explicitly multiple multiple times said

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that this is what's going on the devil is behind the globalists he gives them their

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marching orders yep this is bullshit yeah it's it's just come on man no no no the cat's

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out of the bag the toothpaste is out of the tube you think you're fighting the fucking

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you think you're fighting the devil don't don't come at me with anything that isn't

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ultimately about the devil trying to corrupt humanity don't try and like retain some veneer

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or try and get back some credibility of like no i don't actually think i'm fighting the

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devil if i could think you're fighting the devil come on man so now predictions yes that's

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how you blow the mind of the sheeple i guess mike has some predictions i have it on bad

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authority that he's on fire today he's on fire these are not good predictions mike i'm

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intrigued by this i'm gonna try to shut up continue getting into this in their behavior

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and is there any way to short circus it because short circus also you know you know you're

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in trouble when alex starts ascends with i'm intrigued by this i want to hear more clearly

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when there's hundreds of millions dying which is already starting to happen they're all

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going to go to prison they're all going to get destroyed unless they know something even

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bigger is coming that is going to eclipse what they've already currently done or maybe

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it's a nuclear war maybe it's an emp strike i mean there's so many wild cards but whatever

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it is it's bad on a magnitude much bigger than this do you agree uh yes the the most

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likely scenario and i've war gamed two primary scenarios of what i think is going to happen

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i'll share both of them with you here the first one is what i was talking about last

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break where they're going to engineer a planned financial collapse freezing of the entire

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global banking system all transactions frozen and then of course the dollar collapsing and

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then this will unleash a humanitarian crisis which will justify uh biden calling for un

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troops to come into the united states actually communist chinese troops under the un banner

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sure on quote humanitarian missions that's scenario one and in that scenario it's just

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going to be door-to-door executions uh covid concentration camps mass murder and that's

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even for those who survive the vaccine you're still going to be targeted for murder okay

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so that's option one wow yeah that's a big option sure collapse of the dollar has chinese

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troops under the the uh the guise of un right uh folks coming right door-to-door executions

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right see now this is the thing and we should also point out that if you believe other things

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alex is saying uh five-sixth of your immune system will also be wiped out everyone will

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basically yes be uh dead i i don't know yeah i mean it's over for humanity sure sure it's

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probably trying to uh spin a few too many plates the thing the thing about it is isn't

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it like you know i get if you're listening to the show and sometimes you see a coincidental

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thing and they twist it and you're like oh maybe alex is right about this sometimes or

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something like that but if you're listening to the show and you hear that why aren't you

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just like what the fuck are you talking about yeah like because because just divorced from

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any context you don't need any context for you to just listen to that and go that doesn't

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make sense period even in my conspiracy world and jordan what if i were to tell you that

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that clip i just played from mike was five years old same thing is it five years old

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you i wouldn't know i would have no idea you could have told me it was from five years

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ago and i would not know no it's from this episode but it could have been from five years

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i was gonna say here's how i know it's true similar things all the time here's how i know

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that's true when you said what if i told you it was five years ago my first thought was

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that makes sense damn it dan you found a clip wow you are a witch no but it would not be

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impossible no so that's the first scenario okay what's scenario two scenario two is a

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little bit underwhelming when that's the first scenario the second scenario and remember

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this is a very dynamic situation this could also play out is that they're they are gearing

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up to flip the script and say oh my god these are trump's vaccines that are killing everybody

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trump pushed operation warp speed trump pushed the uh the pharmaceutical companies he twisted

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their arms he gave them incentives he pushed the fda and the cdc for emergency authorization

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and they're going to say uh trump's a mass uh killer from the vaccines but the rest of

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the scientists that's why the democrats when he was launching it laid those Easter eggs

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of saying don't trust him yep exactly but he was lying all the time which this is happening

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the other scenario is the 80 percent but in this scenario they are trying to then save

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science and save the medical journals and save the vaccine industry and save the cdc

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by turning against trump and putting all the blame on trump again this is that same narcissism

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like this must be about my hero wow like i hate trump as much as the next person yeah

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probably maybe a little bit over average um and i think that it would be ludicrous to

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imagine people blaming any problems with the vaccine on trump yeah to imagine that he had

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any direct involvement with the medical uh stuff outside of doing things that he should

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have done yeah like uh you know buying uh surplus amounts of vaccines in order to make

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sure that they would become available the uh expediting processes and things like that

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honestly you probably should have done more but of course like let's imagine that there

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is something that comes about that is a unexpected consequence of uh that we just unforeseen consequence

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sure i don't think that anybody in their right mind would blame trump for that no why yeah

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that would be an insane thing to do it would that would be a fundamental lack of understanding

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of let's say cause and effect sure i know a guy who has a lot of examples that might

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clear that up yeah i i listened to this i was like all right the first first scenario

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is kind of fun there's you know door-to-door executions there's a financial collapse it's

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sure no we could use daleks in this but i'll let it go it's excite oh daleks are gone daleks

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with guns should definitely be still in play if we're going door to door um there is an

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excitement to this and in terms of like a sci-fi movie plot i enjoy it you could see

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this uh it'd be bleak it'd be shot it dark kormac mccarthy could write everybody would

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be dirty might get nominated the second scenario stinks they're trying to save science by blaming

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the vaccines failures on trump yeah like trump was mixing up the vaccine with a spoon yeah

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yeah like no no i mean not even that like that's borderline trump was going to view

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the factory where they make the vaccine and he like elbows something it's like into a

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giant fucking mr beans yes exactly yes that's what that's what they're talking about yes

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i i just think this is what a kid would think no this is stupid this is so stupid it's so

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sad yeah it's so sad you it's it's un it's unfair for me and it's unfair for them like

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the imbalance of of just ability to interact with reality is unfair you know like it's

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it's it's a privilege in some ways to just be able to go outside and see look there is

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a street that's what it looks like and that's what it is and they don't have that they just

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don't that street probably hates exactly like it's just you just don't get it yeah oh sad

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yeah but we have our own uh sort of things that we need to be concerned about namely

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that we live in a city oh no every major city in america once this collapse kicks in every

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city becomes a death zone a war zone lawless chaos looting rape every insanity that you

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can think of they they will be unsurvivable and if you're not bugged out of a city already

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or if you don't have a plan to bug out before this happens it will become your tomb this

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city is going to be your tomb they every time every time every time he says every major

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city every time i mean it's everything that is going to happen will eventually lead to

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every major city will explode at no point in time traps at no point in time have these

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these cities exploded no no they just keep going sure and sometimes there are pockets

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of unrest that happen within cities around you know particularly resonant events but

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the cities don't end up cities don't burn down they don't end up becoming everyone's

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tomb or whatever and i'll tell you why and i'll give you a good reason why oh right and

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i'll i'll just throw this at you sure okay uh everybody lives here uh-huh so we don't

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want to burn it down you know there there's that is a piece of it i think yeah um hmm

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i don't really fully understand exactly what this obsession comes from this desire to fuck

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with people and make them leave cities yeah like i don't know if it's trying to like like

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if it's a long con to try and get more population into rural areas to increase representation

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in in the house or something i don't know but i think it's just i i think it's just

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that cities are less homogenized than rural communities so it's just more in your head

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than it is actual advice exactly he doesn't want anyone to actually leave the city he

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just wants the people he's talking to who don't live in cities to look at cities as

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if they were death traps exactly because they're not uh oh they're not all white people yes

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i i do i really do believe that though i think there probably is a bit of that because because

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every and growing up in rural illinois to extremely religious parents is like you get

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the constant drumbeat of stories of people who went away to college who went away to

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the city who moved to the city and then they come back and they have all these different

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ideas and stuff and that's just because they meet non-white people they meet people who

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aren't the same as them and they go oh you're still people cities are a representation of

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looking at people who are different from you and calling them your their your your neighbor

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yeah you know seeing people with uh uh different life experience or even just different ideas

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uh as your peers and equals totally yeah yeah yeah i bet there is a piece of that yeah so

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mike goes on his merry way mm-hmm and uh i mean look it wasn't his best outing but i

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honestly think that the the realization that i had of like these guys actually are friends

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yeah i think that's fun that is fun and then second like the juxtaposition of those two

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scenarios is unacceptable it sucks it does seem like one of them he put all of his eggs

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in one basket yeah the other one was very underbaked yeah it's like uh somebody who's

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like all right i gotta i got a pitch meeting in the morning yeah stay up all night getting

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this elaborate plot for one and then uh oh yeah half an hour laying out this detailed

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scenario and there's go all right yeah what's your second one guy falls in love we're actually

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gonna pick up that one a little disappointing you kind of uh you you you you know maybe

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we were gonna pass on the second one anyways but now i think we're gonna pass on both yeah

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get out of here mike goodbye so alex talks about uh the the people who got the first

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people who got the pfizer shot he might be wrong about some of this look at this video

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first man to receive the pfizer shot he was dead a month later it's on screen i mean we're

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we're watching them snuff film that's a snuff film if you're a tv viewer oh my god and it's

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just all out in the open it's actually the first person who got uh pfizer shot it was

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a 90 year old woman named margaret keenan but alex did say the first man okay you know

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he did say this and the first man to get the pfizer shot you know what his name was william

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shakespeare i wish i was making that up that's real his name is bill shakespeare all right

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get out of here it's an 81 year old dude in the uk i swear to you i would have turned

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him away you don't get to be the first you can be number two but this is not we're not

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going down in history as bill shakespeare being the first to get this fucking vaccine

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the conspiracy theorists are gonna have a field day we can't do it i just can't do it

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so this was last december and he did not die a month later he passed away in may of this

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year of an unrelated illness alex is just fudging the details of this stuff because

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he knows that the reality of these stories isn't salacious enough to justify his absurd

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conjectures and calling this uh fucking snuff film yeah it's nonsense that's ridiculous

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and of course the first people to get the vaccine were also the ones closest to dying

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anyways yeah that's how that's how it worked and from an article that i read about his

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passing like it was one of some something he was incredibly proud of yeah being able

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to be a part of yeah um and it's just a real tragedy to see i mean granted alex doesn't

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know his name but he's not really besmirching his his memory that much but he is still using

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his death as a prop yeah that's gross yeah he's exploiting somebody who who really believed

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that what they were doing is right yeah and that's fucked up yep yep so you got one last

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clip here this is how alex decides to end the show again brick through the computer

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and so sunday live this is the alex jones show sunday but sunday live it's the next

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two hours i'm gonna come back and play all those doctor clips the the head medical dean

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at baylor coming out and saying the shots aren't safe i mean this is big so humanity's

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fighting back against this global tyranny that is next hour i'm gonna play clip after

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clip after clip after clip fuck you and actually jordan we've run out of time i we are gonna

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talk about those clips that alex played on the other show but we're gonna have to do

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it later we're gonna have to do it i think we're gonna have to do on next week frankly

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i think you actually you spent so much time with those clips that you have too much information

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to impart dare how dare you i hate this but it's so transparent yeah yeah it's it's legitimately

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so uh embarrassingly clear what he's doing and it is like okay there's a sensational

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headline that i'm going to tease throughout the show that is broadcast on some radio stations

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yep and then in order to actually cover the story or whatever i'm gonna force people to

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get it on my own platform you gotta try and migrate some of this away from uh from that

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into my own uh market and maybe a part of that i don't know if it is necessarily but

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like i did notice when i went to his website that there's a lot more my pillow ads on the

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uh the website stuff interesting maybe maybe not on uh the radio shows uh but on a on his

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website michael and elle seems to be getting involved oh boy in advertising oh man that's

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like him like okay i got this clip that's gonna prove everything i'm gonna say and i'm

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gonna i'm gonna play it all right and then it's okay and then you're like okay i gotta

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go to the bathroom okay cool oh you came back i played the clip i played the clip i just

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played the clip it proved everything i was saying just continue to believe whatever i'm

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saying but i just played the clip you you you want to hear it okay cool cool cool i've

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played the clip a hundred times i don't have to do it i don't have to do it but anyways

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go to the bathroom again yeah it's it's really really frustrating and i hate it um and we've

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seen this strategy play out like a bit recently yeah this this this weird like oh didn't have

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time to do my thing i'm gonna do it in the other show yeah um that's so annoying yeah

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i hate it so uh you know this episode was was was real dumb i mean like one of the things

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that i find very fascinating is that this idea that alex had first of all done six hours

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of research and somehow got dizzy because he had so much information or whatever and

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he gets on air and one of the primary sources he uses is a tweet yeah um thumbs down took

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him a long time to find that tweet though thumbs down um if you if you even did 20 minutes

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of preparation for the show he could have found the underlying report that that tweet

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was referencing and not been a guy who's reporting on a tweet it would not have been hard yeah

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that would have been uh probably the thing that anybody would do if they care anybody

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who cared um and then he talks to mike adams about bullshit forever but they have fun he's

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talking to that weirdo from canada who wanted to start a weird school but he doesn't talk

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about the weird school and then he doesn't have time to get to his i'm sorry i was having

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fun riffing with my buddy about imaginary scenarios that can't happen yeah yeah i mean

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it's just unacceptable if you imagine that he's serious about anything he's saying like

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if you actually think that he thinks there's value in getting these stories to people then

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this is nonsensical but on the other hand if you recognize that he knows that the entertainment

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value is having mike adams scare people right then you kind of get the like oh this is what

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drives sales as opposed to people being disappointed by news stories not living up to the way you're

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teasing them right right right it's it's him not you know it's like in the the way we view

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it if you cared about your show then you would take the things that you say and then to them

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if you cared about your show you would work on it you would prepare for it you would make

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sure things sounded good you would get a staff that cannot fucking keep your phone calls

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on air all of those things i would honestly suggest that if alex could prove the things

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that he claims he could prove he has a moral responsibility to do his job like he doesn't

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just have like a financial incentive yeah it is a an imperative that he do it and he

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can't and he doesn't and he couldn't here's the bigger here's the biggest problem all

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right because he can't won't end lies about it right then it becomes our moral imperative

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to fucking talk about it he's making us work for him that's what is happening that and

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any any competent system of morality i guess if we think about it that way it's good it's

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nice to have a boss again anyway jordan we'll be back um i i feel a little bit rusty this

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time it's weird this is the longest time we've gone without recording an episode or seeing

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each other for quite a while it's been a long long time so i feel like i'm a little off

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my game i'm excited for our next episode i think we'll be a little bit more in the groove

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a little bit i'm i'm feeling happy me too i'm just feeling happy it was good to do the

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show it's good to get back i love this this is one of those and you know even even if

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this is dumb bullshit yeah still great to yeah oh absolutely it's one of those things

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where uh yeah man vacation's great but when you really love what you do god if you miss

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working yeah well weird i mean that's because i don't do much yep god damn it i can't wait

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to get back to the office where i do nothing hey when you get a good job you can't be jealous

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of it yeah oh you're gonna kill me now uh oh boy well we'll be back with the ghost of

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jordan uh no we'll be back on friday but until then we have a website we do have a website

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it's knowledgefight.com we're also on twitter we are on twitter it's at knowledge underscore

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fight and i go to bed jordan we're also on facebook we are facebook and if you could

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please find a local charity or bail fund in your area to help out people doing god's work

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we'll be back but until then i'm neo i'm leo i'm dzx clark i'm darryl rundis i am emotionally

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unbalanced and moody general patent giving a very wishy-washy speech andy in chansas

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you're on the air thanks for holding hello alex i'm a person color i'm a huge fan i love

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your work i love you you