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N-N-N-N-N-N-N-Knowledge Fight
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Damn, Ed, Jordan, I am SWEATING
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knowledgefight.com, it's time to pray
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I have great respect for knowledgefight
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knowledgefight
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I'm sick of them posing as if they're the good guys, saying we are the bad guys
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knowledgefight
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Dan and Jordan
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knowledgefight
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Riddle her, riddle her, riddle her
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I need, I need money
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Riddle her, riddle her, riddle her
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Andy and Kansas
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Andy and, Andy, stop it
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Andy and, Andy and Kansas
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Andy and, Andy, it's time to pray
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Andy and Kansas, you're on the air, thanks for holding me
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Hello Alex, I'm a first-time caller, I'm a huge fan
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I love your world
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knowledgefight
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N-N-N-N-N-Knowledgefight.com
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I love you
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Hey everybody, welcome back to Knowledgefight, I'm Dan
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I'm Jordan
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We're a couple dudes, I like to sit around, worship at the cult of Selene's altar and
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talk about Alex Jeff
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Indeed we are Dan
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Not as smooth as the first time I got it right
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I know, it was, but you're getting there, we're getting there
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It's practice, it's work
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You know what, a lot of people need to see the process of becoming good
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instead of just seeing the finished product
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No, definitely, and I consider this part of my 10,000 hours towards getting that introduction
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Absolutely, absolutely
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Also part of your 10,000 hours towards telling Malcolm Gladwell he's a moron
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I consider that my community service
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Good stuff
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Hey Jordan
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Hey Dan, I have a question for you
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What's up?
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What's your bright spot today?
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My bright spot today is actually, maybe you should go first
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Maybe I should go first
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Mine might be a little extended
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Alright, okay, mine's just loud
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Well, preemptively, neighbors
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Neighbors, fair enough
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My bright spot, Dan, is Shohei Ohtani
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Today just hit his 12th home run to win
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Congratulations
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It's incredible, and he has a
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Is he on the Cubs?
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No, absolutely not, no, he's on the Angels
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He hit his 12th home run, and he has an ERA around 2
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And he has several, I mean this dude, here's why he's my bright spot
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So he's a pitcher
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He's everything, Dan
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He is the only baseball player on this planet that has ever lived
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Who can reliably throw a 100 mile an hour fastball and hit 450 foot dingers on the regular
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And I have thought about that, and here's why it's my bright spot
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Is because unlike so many other achievements, right now is the only time in history that
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anyone has ever done what Shohei Ohtani is doing
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And maybe he's the only person who has ever lived out of the 50 billion people estimated
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He's the only one who can do this
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That's really, really insane to me
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For some of our international wonks in baseball
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It's very rare for a pitcher to be able to hit well
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No, no, no, no, that's not what it's rare
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But you can hit well
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It is rare for a pitcher to hit well
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Yeah
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It is not rare for a pitcher to hit what is he's on pace for over 40 home runs in a season
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That is crazy
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That's not rare
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That's never happened
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Anybody who wants to talk to me about Babe Ruth can shove it up their ass
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Babe Ruth hit home runs off of people who threw slower than I do
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Sure
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Babe Ruth is shit
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Babe Ruth is garbage
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He was a garbage human being who played against garbage baseball players
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Understood
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For some context, one half of Major League Baseball as an organization doesn't make pitchers hit
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That's how not good at hitting generally pitchers are
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Yes
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Part of the game was like, these guys are so bad at hitting, we have to change it
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Yeah, let's not bog it down
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I was going to make a joke about Jeff Supon
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I believe famously hit a home run in the World Series for the Cardinals
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He did
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No, there was the Cubs reliever, I can't remember his name off the top of my head
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But he was one of the last people to hit a home run in a playoff game as a relief pitcher
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Hell yeah
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Yeah, yeah, yeah
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Rare
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Very rare
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But the point is
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You get to see him play
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There's only one
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There's only one
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Like, how insane is that?
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There's only one person
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But I also think about this, you're saying he's on pace for that
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Sure
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That to me, I just imagine being in that position, being in those shoes
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Like, I don't know how you would handle that pressure
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Yeah, no, totally
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I don't know how he could, you know, I don't know
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But he grew up in the Japanese Baseball Leagues, which if you've never
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Like in the Japanese Baseball Leagues, if you're eight playing for your team
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You have the same amount of pressure as a Major Leaguer in the United States
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I don't know if you know anything about it
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I don't, I have not looked into this at all
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But they are fucking intense
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Okay
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Yeah, yeah, yeah
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So Jordan, my bright spot is I made a little trip
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Long overdue trip down to the box, the mailbox
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Yes, indeed
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And I have some stuff to take out of the bag
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Yep
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Excellent
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One thing I realized, I didn't mention this when it was my birthday
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Because it also included a gift for your birthday
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And I forgot when your birthday came around
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But our Black Dragon Queen Christie sent a very nice care package
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Oh yes, of course
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So thank you so much for that
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Oh, absolutely
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And then I went to the mailbag and there was some other stuff that was a bit birthday related
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Bex sent in some young ginger ale, which I don't know what that is
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Me neither
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Young ginger, could be a wrap name
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It could be Carl Jung's specific ginger line
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Sure
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Also, I believe Bex sent a pink ukulele
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Which I'm a little confused by
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But I'm excited to try to learn
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I was trying to learn a couple chords last night while I was playing around with it
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And my fingers are too fat
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So I don't know if it's gonna work out
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But what happened to those knowledge fight guys?
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They turned into a weird ukulele band, I don't know
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But we could do some cover songs
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Yeah, why not?
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Absolutely
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Also
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You Belong in the City is ripe for a ukulele parody
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Also in this was the Sega Mega Drive Classics for the Switch
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All right
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And I've been used to seeing these kinds of collections of old games
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Sure, sure, sure
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And typically they end up not having the license to have like actually good games on it
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But this is pretty solid
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You got Dr. Robotnik's Mean Bean Machine
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Sure
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Classic
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Gotta have that
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Sonic, Sonic 2, Toejam and Earl, Vector Man
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Are you reading them in chronological order?
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Comic Zone
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Oh shit, I do remember Comic Zone
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Wow, the past is far away
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The entire Streets of Rage trilogy
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Okay, well that we haven't had in a long time
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There's a whole lot of stuff on there and it's very nice
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It's been a long time since I've moved from left to right and punched things
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Yeah, there are a couple games that are entirely that
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So then I got another thing here
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And this was a little bit weird, Jordan
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I feel like I'm gonna need your help because I think this might have actually been for you
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Okay, okay
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So here, this card came
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And look at the front, look at the front
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Alright, alright
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Okay, there is a dog resting his, well there's a puppy resting his very cute, very lovable face
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On top of a kitten who is staring cute and lovable
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Now look at this, look at this on the inside
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It says, yeah, we listen and we have feelings too, comma, Jordan
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Right
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Love, comma, nothing
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Nothing
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Okay
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Now, this came inside a box
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Okay
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That had two mugs and this is one of them
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Okay, alright, you shall know the truth and the truth shall make you free, alright
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Central Intelligence Agency, sure, sure
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Now, there is a sticker on the bottom that implies that this came from a gift shop
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Yes indeed
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So, either the CIA is trying to fuck with you and let you know, Jordan, that they're listening
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And you have hurt their feelings
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I don't understand
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Either the CIA is very sensitive
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Or it's somebody fucking with us, I'm not entirely sure
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Alright, yeah, dot, dot, dot, yeah, we, but who's we?
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CIA, man
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It's the CIA, but I mean, why would they send me a cute little puppy?
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It was from a nondescript address in Virginia
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Oh, well, that would kind of make sense then, wouldn't it?
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I don't know, it's entirely possible, but I mean,
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Occam's Razor tells me that it's someone fucking with you
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But I still appreciate a mug
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Sure
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I like a nice mug
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Admit how ironic it would be for Alex to constantly claim that the CIA and all important heads
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of state listen to him and yet we get very kind, almost downright cute cards from the CIA
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Letting us know that they are listening
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And that you are being too mean
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I apologize to the CIA, I guess
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Wow
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Is that what I do? Is that all it takes? It takes a cute kitten and a cute puppy
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Jordan has issued an apology to the CIA
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See now, what they don't realize, it does take both
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For all of our leftist listeners out there that really look at Jordan as this kind of like,
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oh yeah, he gets it, he's on the edge, man
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He just apologized to the CIA
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I would be surprised
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Centrist Jordan
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Honestly, I would be surprised to know too many leftists who,
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upon receiving a cute puppy or kitten card, wouldn't be like
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I mean, it softens me a little bit just to know that cute puppies
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Oh, damn it, they got me again
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Oh man, I had the CIA all wrong
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Oh, damn it
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So Jordan, today we got an episode from the past
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We are talking about May 8th and 9th, 2003
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Ooh, fun
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Continuing our march
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One of the things I wanted to try to do was I wanted to try to keep pace
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Sure
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With 2003, I don't think we're going to be able to do that
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That's going to be tough
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With two episodes a week, it's a little tough
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It's going to be a hard fight
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But here we are, May 8th and 9th
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Got some interesting stuff to go over
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Some weird parallels with the present, as per usual
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Naturally
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Due to my witchcraft
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You are a witch
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But before we get into this, let's take a little moment to say hello to some wonks
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Ooh, that's a good idea
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So first, Andrew Buchholt, thank you so much
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You are now a policy wonk
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I'm a policy wonk
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Thanks, Andrew
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Thank you
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Next, ZZ Pop, thank you so much
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You are now a policy wonk
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I'm a policy wonk
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Thanks, ZZ Pop
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Thank you
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Next, All Hail the Cult Leader, Selene
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Thank you so much
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You are now a policy wonk
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I'm a policy wonk
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Thank you very much
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Uh, thank you
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Next, Good Good Muscle, Nate
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Thank you so much
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You are now a policy wonk
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I'm a policy wonk
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Thanks, Good Good Muscle, Nate
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Thank you
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Next, Jordan's Banshee, Laugh Is My Bright Spot
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Thank you so much
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You are now a policy wonk
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I'm a policy wonk
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Thank you very much
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Thank you
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Next, Gon AFK
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Thank you so much
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You are now a policy wonk
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I'm a policy wonk
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Thank you very much, Gon AFK
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Thank you
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And we've got a technocrat
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To give a little tip of the cap too
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So Mr. Mac Mackington, thank you so much.
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You are now a technocrat.
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I'm a policy wonk.
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Crikey, mate, that's fantastic.
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Have yourself a brew.
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How's your 401k doing, bro?
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We got to go full tilt boogie on this, Watson, all right?
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Let's just get down to business.
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We ain't making that money off that heroin.
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Why are you pimps so good?
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My neck is freakishly large.
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I declare info war on you.
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Thank you, Mr. Mac Mackington.
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Yes, thank you very much, Mr. Mac Mackington.
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Also, before we get into this, this show business,
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the sexual business of the show.
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Not show business.
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No.
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Certainly not.
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We've never been in show business.
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We have mics we're holding in our hands.
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We are not in show business.
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No.
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I got a message from a Jeff, character named Jeff.
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And Jeff wanted to get a message out.
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And that is, apparently, they have a friend named Alex,
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who's opposed to the spider leadership.
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And this is relevant, because you're
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wearing the spider leadership t-shirt right now.
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Perfect.
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So this friend of Jeff's is opposed to you.
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OK.
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Also, apparently, Jeff's brother, Evan,
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just got into the show.
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So what up, Evan?
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Hi, Evan.
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Welcome to the Wonkaree.
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What are we doing?
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I have no idea.
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This is just what we've become, I guess.
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Welcoming new listeners individually?
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Why?
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Why are we doing this?
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I don't know.
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Don't you realize what can of worms you've opened up again?
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Every time you add another thing, it never ends.
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Oh, god.
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Oh, boy.
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So here are a couple out of context drops.
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OK.
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The first is a little, it's actually
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a little game I want to play.
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And that is, Alex or Bill Clinton?
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OK.
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I love this country.
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Was that Alex, or was that Bill Clinton?
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Do you need to hear that again?
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Yes, one more time.
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OK, here we go.
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I love this country.
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OK, we can't do, this is a stolen news radio bit
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from four years prior to this show airing.
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When Phil Hartman went on as Bill McNeil
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and did long interviews with himself as Bill Clinton.
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We can't say that it's that.
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I will say that it's definitely not that.
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It's definitely not that.
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It is either Alex Jones sounding a lot like Bill Clinton.
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Sure.
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Or Bill Clinton with Alex's going
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to break music playing in the background.
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I'm going to go with Alex on this one.
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You're right.
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Oh, wait.
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So here's Alex doing an impression
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of a dude smoking pot.
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Yeah, you ever seen the artwork in the Denver airport?
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Yeah, man.
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It's good to know that the Denver airport will never die.
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No, and finally, third out of context drop,
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unprecedented, Alex doing an impression of himself.
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The valedictorian of the school today
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doesn't hold a candle to my father.
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OK.
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Wait.
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A little sad.
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Your father today?
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No, back in his dad's day.
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That's when people were smart.
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I really don't know if that's how anything works, especially
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not education or knowledge.
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Nope.
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So we start here on the 8th.
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And Alex actually begins the show
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with a story that there's some mirror
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parallels to the present day.
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It's now coming out that what may have killed that NBC
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reporter was his small pox injection.
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So see, it's mainstream.
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These vaccines are deadly.
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You don't have to take them.
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But the government's trying to set a precedent that you do
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by saying, oh, you're crazy if you don't.
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Well, I guess then 99-plus percent of doctors, police,
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and firemen are crazy because 99-plus
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have refused to take it.
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But David Bloom didn't.
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And he's bye-bye.
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And many others that are taking it are bye-bye.
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It looks like more than one out of 1,000 die that take it.
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Those are now official numbers, by the way.
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First things first, Alex, not the last stat
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that he cited there, that's a little outlandish,
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but he's not off on some of this stuff.
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But the story that he's telling about this
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is missing some points.
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I was able to find a CBS News article from May 2003, which
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discussed a proposed plan to vaccinate half a million
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health care workers against smallpox, of which, quote,
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only 35,000 of the targeted workers had been inoculated.
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There's not good evidence that I can find that anyone was
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refusing the vaccine, just that the program may have only
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vaccinated about 7% of the stated goal population.
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So Alex is saying 99% are refusing the vaccine.
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So real decent chance they weren't refusing it,
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but one in seven is closer than I'm used to him being.
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Sure, sure.
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Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
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93% of the targeted population that they
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meant to get a smallpox vaccination did not get it.
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Sure.
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Alex is making up that they all refused.
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Right, we don't know how the not getting it went down.
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It wasn't like we know for a fact.
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No, instead, actually 7%.
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There's a real decent chance that most of that
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was just due to structural problems with how the rollout
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of the campaign was.
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Yeah, not enough people even knew about it.
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Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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And part of it is most people do not
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need to get vaccinated against smallpox nowadays.
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The reason is because thanks to vaccination efforts made
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by the people who came before us,
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smallpox was declared eradicated in 1980.
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After 9-11, there was a concern about a terrorist group
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or a hostile government using smallpox as a weapon.
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And as such, the US government stockpiled massive amounts
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of smallpox vaccine in order to be prepared
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for that kind of possibility.
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But typically speaking, most people won't need that vaccine.
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The people who do, according to the CDC,
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are typically lab workers who might
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be in contact with any viruses similar to smallpox.
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The push to vaccinate in 2003 was
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based on fears of this potential terrorist attack.
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And what was ultimately decided was
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that it wasn't worth the risk.
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And vaccines could still be effective after someone
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was exposed to the virus, so there wasn't
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much of a need for this.
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The program was ended early, and only a total of about 39,000
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people were ultimately vaccinated.
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A large part of the resistance to this program
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was that people didn't buy that there was a real threat,
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since Bush had been pretty clear that there
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was no information of an imminent attack,
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and hospitals were reluctant to participate.
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In the end, however, through this program's failure,
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public health preparedness was improved.
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And even critics of the smallpox campaign
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credited with helping us be more ready for the later
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outbreak of SARS.
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Sure, sure.
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David Bloom was a 39-year-old combat reporter
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working with NBC.
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He passed away on April 6, 2003, while on assignment,
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reporting from Iraq.
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It's pretty well understood that the cause of death
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was that Bloom had developed a blood clot in his leg
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from spending days on end crammed into an armored vehicle
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and having deep vein thrombosis.
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This clot made its way to his lungs
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and caused a pulmonary embolism, which resulted in his death.
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In the days after he passed away,
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a doctor named Brian Strom made a number
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of comments to the media about the possibility
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that Bloom's death was related to the smallpox vaccination
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he'd gotten several weeks prior to his passing.
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There's no direct evidence to support this conclusion,
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and Alex is kind of just making stuff up,
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riffing and jumping to conclusions here.
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That said, no medication is fully without some risk,
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and the smallpox vaccine is no exception.
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Compared to the horror of having smallpox come back, though,
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the risk is very minimal.
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Isn't it so fucking, it's just so indicative
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of how stupid people are that the government was like,
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okay, now, despite not having any idea whether or not
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they could have weaponized polio,
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or smallpox would weaponize smallpox,
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or even have some way of delivering it,
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we're just going to go out of our way
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and protect ourselves against the possibility
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of a smallpox attack, despite the fact
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that the overwhelming number of humans
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have died of diseases that have occurred regularly,
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and at no point in time have they been like,
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let's put a lot of effort into preemptive, yeah.
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I mean, they have.
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I mean, they have, but not like, yeah.
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You know what my point is.
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It's not like the Bush administration
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wasn't also getting tetanus shots.
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Sure, sure.
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I don't know what you're even saying.
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Sure, but my, fine, fine, fine, whatever.
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I feel like you're just looking for a way to attack.
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I'm not looking for a way to, I don't need to look.
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Sure.
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I think when you look at this,
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it's like, it's a terrifying prospect,
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and I think that maybe there was some chatter of some sort.
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I would believe possibly that like,
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oh, this is something we should be concerned about.
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Sure.
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Somebody might have a sample
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of some laboratory smallpox that could really fuck things up.
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Totally.
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And I think that maybe if you escalate in your head
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what the possible threat is,
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then the idea of a campaign
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of vaccinating healthcare workers
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who might be in the front lines or soldiers,
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that makes a certain amount of sense.
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Right.
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Looking back, we obviously have the gift of hindsight
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knowing that this didn't happen.
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Right.
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And it can look a lot more silly.
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Right.
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But, and even back then,
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you could probably make a pretty decent argument
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that it was excessive.
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Right.
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You kinda understand where the thought process comes from.
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No, naturally, but it's just,
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we've had too many examples of this type of paranoia
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being the excuse for action
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when it's paranoia that inherently devalues
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the life of other people,
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as opposed to paranoia that's like,
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hey, diseases just come out of nowhere
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from shit all the time.
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That's infinitely more important.
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Instead, it's like,
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we've always gotta be preparing for a war
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or an attack or someone to try and kill us.
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You know what I'm saying?
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Yeah, yeah.
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I think I might've misunderstood your point.
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Yeah.
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And I think your point is fine.
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And definitely, I think it was indicative
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of a lot of the public mentality.
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Especially in 2003, when everything is an attack.
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Yeah.
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But I also think that you can do both.
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Yeah.
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I think that,
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and that might be where my head misunderstood
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what you were saying.
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No, no, no, totally.
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If it were a one or the other choice,
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then yeah, focus on.
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No, no, no, totally, totally.
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But I think everybody was kind of,
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ideally, had their head on swivel, looking around.
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No, my point isn't invalid,
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but it's not necessarily the best way to go
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about talking about stuff.
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I don't think you broke new ground.
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No, I didn't start a revolution, Dan.
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Anyway, this clip, I thought,
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was a really good instance to illustrate
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why you can't take vaccine-related stories seriously
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when they come from Alex.
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No matter what the reality of the story is,
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Alex is always going to take the story
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about the possibility of danger,
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and he's gonna report that as definitive,
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and then he's gonna exaggerate it out,
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and it's like, oh, it's been proven.
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They've shown it, you know?
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And it's the same thing that he does
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with the COVID-19 vaccine stories in the present day.
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This behavior is consistent,
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because he is staunchly opposed to vaccines,
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not based on the science of it.
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Absolutely, and you can argue,
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and the problem with it is that the argument of like,
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look, 20 years ago, this asshole was saying the same lies
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about different vaccines,
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and you can see that those didn't come true,
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so why would you believe him now?
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And the argument will always be like,
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yeah, yeah, yeah, but it's a Black Swan event, you know?
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Sure, this one was a fake.
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They wanna make you comfortable with their vaccines
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until they do it, they wanna lull you into,
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and you're like, fine, we'll never win.
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No. That's it.
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You can't really beat back that thinking.
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No, no.
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And I think that if you are able to get yourself
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to a point where you recognize that like,
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oh, he does do this over and over and over again,
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regardless of the circumstances,
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you have to start to ask yourself why,
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and what is it exactly that is the opposition to vaccines?
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What is that about?
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Right.
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And I think you could probably come up
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with a couple of possibilities.
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One is a sort of inclination towards divine science.
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Sure, sure.
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I guess the idea of medical intervention is against God.
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Right.
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And I'm not sure if I believe that Alex is there,
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because he's gotten surgery.
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Yeah.
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You know?
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Yeah, no, but it is that kind of like,
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when it happens to someone else,
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it's very much the will of God.
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And when it happens to you,
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the will of God is to save yourself.
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You know, the Lord helps those who help themselves.
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But when other people die, it's because it was their time.
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It was their time to go, Dan.
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You can't deny them that.
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Sure.
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I'm saying that's a slightly unsatisfying explanation
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for Alex.
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The other one that I come up with is the notion
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and understanding that like vaccines
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have drastically improved the lives of poor people
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and people in developing countries around the world.
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And I don't know, a whole lot of Alex's policy positions
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seem to be about not doing that, cutting off foreign aid.
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Those sorts of things are things that seem to be
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kind of overlap of a lot of his beliefs.
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Yeah.
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I don't know if that's where the opposition comes from,
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but it certainly makes more sense
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than legitimate scientific concerns.
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Yeah, yeah.
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When you think about when typhoid spread
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through wealthy neighborhoods,
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there was far less like anti-medicine spread around
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about that shit.
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It was very much everybody needs to clean their hands.
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Everybody needs to stay safe.
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You know, that kind of thing.
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Yeah.
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So Alex gives a little bit of a spiel
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at the beginning of this episode.
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And he talks about like, you know, hey man,
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sometimes the world doesn't make sense.
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And that's when you need a little bit of Infowars.
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That's true.
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Again, I'm Alex Jones, your host.
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The websites are infowars.com, infowars.net,
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and prisonplanet.com.
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If the world doesn't make sense to you,
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if you wonder why you keep losing your liberties
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and more and more factories are shutting down
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and why the borders are still wide open,
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as the government tells you to give up liberty for security,
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you'll find the answers right here.
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You wonder why our government creates Saddam Hussein's
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and creates bin Laden's and arms North Korea's
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and then engages the American people
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in these costly and dangerous wars.
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You'll find the answers right here.
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You're wondering why police are running checkpoints
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and why there's cameras everywhere
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and why your children are being trained
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how to turn you in for owning guns
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when your guns aren't even illegal.
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You'll find the answers right here on this show.
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Is it the devil?
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It's gotta be the devil.
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Is it the devil?
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Is it secretly the devil?
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It's gotta be something like that.
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I'm confused.
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I mean, I understand.
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No, I think we were all wondering that.
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Those are correct wonders.
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Sure.
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There's some of them are more valid than others.
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True.
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Yeah, certainly there are.
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Hey, it is confusing.
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Militarization of police is confusing.
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It's wrong.
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What's going on here?
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Why is this happening?
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I don't get answers from Infowars.
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No.
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And knowing what he turns into
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and that the devil is actually behind the globalists,
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I wonder if he's just not telling the audience
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at this point that this is secretly
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just a big religious campaign.
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Is this part of God's plan for him in fighting the devil
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to lie to these people early on in his career
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so he can kind of like slowly trick them
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into being the holy warriors that God needs?
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Right.
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A saint isn't going to bring these sinners in.
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Exactly.
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That kind of idea.
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Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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That might've been a quote from Red Dead Redemption.
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God was talking to Saul
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when Saul was like nine or 10 in his dreams.
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And he was like, listen,
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you got to lie to everybody right up until the good time.
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Yeah, I don't know.
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I don't know.
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It's really strange to me.
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And like I've said in these 2003 episodes,
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one of the things that I'm trying to keep my eye on
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is this idea of how much of the devil
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does he think he's fighting the devil in 2003?
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Right, right, right.
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And you know, if he does, then that clip is abusive.
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And if he doesn't, then his worldview doesn't make sense.
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I would appreciate it if that clue, yeah.
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So Alex has got a headline that's not a headline.
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Coming up in the next hour,
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Eugene police illegally raid homes
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with a tank prompts federal lawsuit.
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Eugene police illegally raid homes with a tank
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prompts federal lawsuit.
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And wild stuff comes out of Oregon,
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but it's happening all over the country.
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This headline that Alex is reading
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is not from a news story or any kind of journalistic source.
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It's actually the title of a press release
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that was put out by the office of Lauren Regan,
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the lawyer representing the people
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who were the subject of this raid.
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Yeah.
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I can understand how this is still a source of information
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and it's entirely possible that a lawyer's press release
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could have stuff worth conveying,
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but it seems like something that shouldn't be treated
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as the same as an article in an actual news outlet.
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Incidentally, this case resulted in the city of Eugene
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paying one couple $30,000 and another $92,000
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to settle their cases,
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which claimed unreasonable search and seizure,
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excessive use of force, assault, and false imprisonment.
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The police contended that it was an instance
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of them having bad information
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and believing that they were raiding a drug house,
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whereas the couples believed
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that the police got a warrant by lying.
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Whatever the case, it's not good policing.
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And even if the intel had all been good,
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seems like their actions would have been excessive
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for a drug raid.
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Anyway, the point here is that in terms of the big picture,
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that this kind of police action is wrong,
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Alex and I are in complete agreement.
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Not hard.
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I still don't support how he pushes the message though,
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however, given that he's presenting this biased information
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from the lawyers of people involved in the story
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as a neutral headline.
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It's not necessarily the way you would wanna go
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about framing your case,
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even if your case is something that I agree with.
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Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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I mean, it would be hard to be on the wrong side
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of strangers destroy your home for no good reason
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and face no punishment for it.
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Sure, sure.
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You know, like that seems obvious.
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Yeah, and Alex spends a large portion of this episode
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talking about this couple's houses that were searched
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and they were, you know, held.
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Right.
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And it does
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become hard to take seriously.
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Yeah.
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Knowing the present.
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Like I do care for these people
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who had this police intervention in their lives
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unnecessarily and they were treated poorly.
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I just don't consider Alex a legitimate person
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to make those points.
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Absolutely.
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Anymore.
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Yeah.
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Anyway.
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That is also a really good question about the,
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I mean, as far as the fighting the devil
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in the past and the present goes,
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another like question that that raises is,
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is this guy that guy or does he change into this guy?
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And what does that mean?
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You know, like, are there,
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is it possible that Alex and I
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could have had a conversation in 2003
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that wouldn't have wound up with me
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trying to throw something into his face?
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Probably, I bet it is.
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I bet you would.
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You might not really enjoy it all that much.
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Right.
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But yeah.
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And is that because he's lying to me
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or is that because he was a different person?
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Yeah.
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And does that raise the possibility
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that I could eventually change into this very monster?
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That's actually why we're doing this.
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Isn't this terrifying?
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It's truly a nightmare.
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That's really the thing
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that this is all about is like-
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But what do we turn into?
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Yes.
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Looking at this and being like,
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what do we have to be afraid of?
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What are the signs?
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What's the, yeah, yeah.
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Can we get, somebody get a whiteboard up
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with a checklist. This is a cautionary thing.
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Yes, absolutely.
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So Alex starts to read this article
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and it's interesting that you bring up this,
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the differences between present
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and like is this the same person?
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Sure.
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Because he starts to bring up this article
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and you can see in this clip,
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similarities and differences.
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Like, okay, one of the big similarities,
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he starts reading and everything he reads,
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he editorializes on.
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Sure, sure.
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He adds a whole bunch of stuff
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that's not in the article to the article.
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But a big difference,
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he says that this was written by a lawyer.
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He doesn't clarify that it's the lawyer
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of the people who were in the story.
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Sure.
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But he does give a clarification
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that I didn't expect from him.
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Let me just read part of this powerful article
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and we're gonna talk to the lawyer
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who wrote the story
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and got some of the other mainstream articles about it.
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Lauren Regan,
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Eugene police illegally raid homes
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with tank prompts federal lawsuit.
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And in the pre-dawn of October 17, 2002,
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approximately 50 police officers
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that see this every day
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from multiple police agencies
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that are federalized
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under multi-jurisdictional task force,
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swarmed residential neighborhood,
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we saw this in Austin.
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You can hear the difference in his voice
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when he's editorializing.
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Yup, yup.
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That's, it's,
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it's almost courteous in a way.
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You can feel him almost telling you
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when he's not.
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There is a slight bit of that,
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but it's still like,
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okay, I'm gonna set out to read this article
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then I'm gonna interrupt myself constantly
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with stuff that's not in the article.
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No, there's definitely that.
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It's a little bit dicey,
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but yeah, it's slightly more responsible feeling
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because if you are actively listening,
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you can tell when it's like,
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these are the words of Alex.
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Right.
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This is his reading voice.
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Right.
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And I don't know.
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And you know why that's a more compelling show
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than just reading the news
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because this is very similar
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to how some asshole might be reading an article
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as he's reading it.
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You know, like if I'm reading a dumb article,
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sometimes I'll read a sentence
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and be like, these motherfuckers are stupid.
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And then I'll read the next sentence.
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You know, this is an engaging way
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of almost reading the news with your buddy.
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I don't fully disagree.
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Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
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So Alex gets to talking about other places
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that have been raided.
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Now it's raiding neighborhoods.
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In a town in Missouri two years ago,
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AP headline, town searched in drug raid.
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Folks, this is as bad as it gets.
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This was a case from early 2002
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where a 27 month long investigation
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into an international gun and drug smuggling operation
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culminated in arrests in a town called Carthage in Missouri.
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This is a real headline from an AP story,
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but the use of the words town searched
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isn't meant to be taken completely literally.
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The multi-agency task force
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that was working on this extended operation
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set up some checkpoints to make sure
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the subjects of their investigation couldn't flee,
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and then they made their arrests.
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Again, I'm not justifying this policing necessarily.
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I'm just saying that the image that Alex wants to create
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of cops kicking in every door in this town in Missouri,
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looking for wrongdoing to jam someone up,
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that's not accurate.
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No, I mean admittedly- That's the image he wants to create
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and it's not real.
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Admittedly, when they marched those elephants
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across the Rockies to get there,
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I felt like that might've been a terrible idea,
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but Carthage.
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Right, I got it. Carthage, Dan.
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I got it. Carthage, because of-
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I was trying to think of a way
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if there was a like a Fitzcarraldo joke I could make.
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Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
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The elephants and the carrying a boat.
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Sure, sure, that could've-
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It wasn't worth it. I feel like my Hannibal reference
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was better than you gave it credit for it.
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It was, but I think I probably would've enjoyed it more
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if I wasn't trying to make a Fitzcarraldo joke and failing.
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Yes, yeah, yeah, yeah.
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We were working at cross purposes on that riff.
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Yeah. So I can see that.
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I apologize, I should be there for you more.
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That was on me.
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Anyway, the point of this though
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is that Alex is completely just fudging this.
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Yeah, yeah.
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But it's a good headline for him, meh.
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Anyway, he gets to talking to this lawyer
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and I guess if you put the pieces together yourself,
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you can kind of make sense of the fact
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that this isn't a headline.
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This is, the press release word is never used,
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but you can put the pieces together
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that this is a lawyer representing the people.
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Sure, sure, sure.
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A not unbiased actor in this circumstance, if you will.
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Yeah, and I think that this lawyer
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seems fairly straight up.
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I think she's distracted and maybe a little bit bemused
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by Alex's constant-
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Right.
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detractions.
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That her name was Roberta Barnes gave me some pause,
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but once I found out there was no relation,
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I felt more comfortable.
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So Alex knows how to arrest people.
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You should know that.
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Okay.
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And how you arrest somebody is you park down the street
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when the perp leaves in the morning,
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you do a little work, you surveil them for a couple of days.
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When they go to work, you pull them over,
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you pull them out of the car,
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you take them back to the house with a warrant,
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you go in the house, nobody gets hurt.
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But see, that's not fun to suit up at 3 a.m.
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in black uniforms and feel all tough
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and go rumbling down the road in your tank.
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These are all wannabes who probably
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washed out in the special forces.
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Now they get to pick on women.
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Right.
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I mean, this show is a really abusive, psychotic nature
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to drag a naked woman outside with a black hood on.
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Go ahead.
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So I don't, you can tell kind of there
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that she's trying to respond to stuff.
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She's trying to say anything edgewise, yes, yes.
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That kind of is how I would characterize the interview.
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It's not hostile by any stretch.
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She has a point, I don't know if she necessarily
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knows who Alex is.
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And Alex certainly isn't as toxic an entity in 2003
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as he is in the present.
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Right, right, right.
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You might not think twice about an invitation
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to come and talk about this case
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that you're passionate about
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and you want to get attention for.
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And you don't know going in that it is going to be
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a life or death struggle to finish a sentence.
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You didn't know that.
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And you don't know that Alex is going to be constantly
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trying to drive the image of a naked woman
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being dragged out of her house to his audience
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because that's visceral for them.
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Correct, yeah.
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Whereas you maybe want to talk about.
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I have things to say.
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You want to talk about rights.
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You want to talk about infringement of citizen civil rights.
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Totally.
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Yep.
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So anyway, the interview is not that great
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or all that interesting, especially I think partially
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because I mean, I agree with Alex.
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I don't agree with his tactics.
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Sure, sure.
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I don't agree with him sensationalizing the story.
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Right.
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But in terms, like I looked at the story in normal outlets
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and the conclusion of the police shouldn't have done this.
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Yeah, it's not hard.
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I agree.
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Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
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And I know because we're in the future
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that the police and the city of Eugene
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did pay out a settlement.
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Yeah.
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And that doesn't take away whatever these people experience
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but it certainly is some sign.
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No, no five figures is restitution for the cops
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destroying your home, you know, and your sense of safety
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forever.
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Yeah, there's going to be psychological things
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that remain.
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Yeah, absolutely.
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You know, there's a modicum of justice in a settlement.
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Sure, sure.
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And no one died.
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So that's great.
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No one died, yeah.
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Anyway, the interview ends and Alex says this
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and I just rolled my eyes.
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All right, the third hour will be an absolute news overload
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blitz.
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I've got 50 articles I haven't gotten to.
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I will get to them.
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I will get to your calls.
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1-800-259-9231.
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He's the same guy.
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Oh boy, oh boy.
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He's setting himself up for failure.
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Like if he plans to get to 50 stories plus calls in one hour,
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that's just not possible.
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If you factor in commercials, he's
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giving himself like 20 seconds per story.
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That's not even enough to get through the headlines.
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He should be more realistic about what he can and can't
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cover in the time he has and then focus
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on what he has the time to cover.
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Sure.
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It would make for better content.
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Sure.
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It wouldn't be so dumb.
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It does make it, I don't know, what would I say?
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It does make it far more reasonable to just ignore
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that in the present, though.
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You know, it's like a long running joke on a sitcom.
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Like a Simpsons bit, it's been going on for 30 years.
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What are you going to complain now?
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If Alex says he's going to get to the stories
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and you've listened in 2003, you know damn well
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he's not going to get to the story.
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So who gives a shit, you know?
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Because for me, I'm looking at this like Dr. House.
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Sure.
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You know what I'm saying?
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Sure, sure.
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In the present day, Alex has this list of symptoms, right?
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Right, right.
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And we go back to 2003, and he's got the same symptom.
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It's like, all right, that's not part of the condition.
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That's not part of the disease, yes.
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I got you.
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I got you.
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I'm playing diagnostic games here.
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Understood.
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Cough is not part of it.
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Understood.
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So Alex has trouble with quotes, and it extends
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far beyond Thomas Jefferson.
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The globalists' mind controllers say
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that perception is reality.
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I am mental.
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They create the perception that the military and the police
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on our streets is good, when if you investigate,
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you'll find out it's bad.
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So Alex saying that, you know, claiming
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that the globalists use that quote,
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perception is reality, that's interesting,
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because that's a quote most famously attributed
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to Republican strategist Lee Atwater.
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Yeah.
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A man notable for his intense use of racism
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as a political tool.
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Oh, yeah.
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Name one big strategy that he helped institute.
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It's on the compass.
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Also, he's associated with the Willie Horton ad.
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Sure, sure.
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Also, he's pretty notable that in 1984,
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he became a senior partner at Black Manafort Stone
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and Kelly, the consulting firm run
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by Alex's future good buddy Roger Stone.
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Wow.
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Perception is reality.
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Perception is reality.
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Woo.
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Man, Jesus.
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Yep.
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1984, good old Roger Stone looking to his left,
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seeing Lee Atwater thinking, I got
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a bright future in front of me.
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Paul, we're going to do great things.
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You and I definitely aren't going
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to get charged with crimes in 36 years.
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Oh, boy, we're definitely not laying the groundwork
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for all the crimes we're going to do.
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Yep.
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So this was interesting to me.
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Sure.
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I'm going to stop saying interesting.
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But this was weird.
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Fascinating.
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Sure.
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OK.
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Alex has an intense news blitz he needs to get through.
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Yes, we're in a full hour of news blitz.
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I forgot about that.
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Listen to this.
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OK.
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And I'm sad for our troops that are being
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used for the new world order and are
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being injected with deadly vaccines,
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are being brought back here and turned
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into militarized police.
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We need to remember what America is about.
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What makes America America is because it was a free country.
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Now we're beginning to lose that.
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We're seeing the shift rapidly.
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And patriots everywhere need to be veterans
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in the second American revolution,
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or I should say, restoration.
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For all the veterans that really gave all,
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we've had requests for this song.
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We'll air it.
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Then I'll come back and talk to John in Indiana,
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or John in Missouri, and others that are patiently holding.
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And I'll launch into a bunch of geopolitical news
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and information.
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So again, stay with us.
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I think this song says it all.
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It's not sappy.
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A lot of people die to defend liberty.
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That's what that flag symbolizes, is our republic,
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not a unit of a world empire.
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And then Alex plays the entire song of Billy Ray Cyrus'
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Sun Gable.
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I was worried it was going to be what I heard it being.
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And then it was that.
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And now I'm unhappy.
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I would give anything to go back to that moment in time
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and tell Alex about Miley.
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Heh heh heh heh heh heh heh heh heh heh heh heh heh heh heh heh.
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Oh my god, it's so weird.
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It's so weird.
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He plays a full song as like a shout out to the troops.
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And he doesn't sing along with it or editorialize over it?
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He just leaves.
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Oh.
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Yeah.
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Well, you know, he couldn't eat a sandwich as easily back then.
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That's probably true.
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Yeah, that was bizarre.
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The format is very strange.
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Yeah, that's very weird.
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That makes me feel deeply uncomfortable.
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A lot of people have been wanting me to play Billy Cyrus.
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No, no, no.
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A lot of people have been wanting me to play Billy Cyrus.
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And I say to them, no, again.
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From everything I understand about Alex's format,
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song requests are not right.
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You can request songs.
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He doesn't play songs.
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No, he's not a song player.
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No.
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What a weird, yeah, OK.
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Very strange.
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All right.
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So the news blitz doesn't really happen.
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But Alex does take some calls.
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And one guy, this guy is interesting.
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He seems to believe that spam messages.
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Oh.
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Right?
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Yeah, not the food.
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Spam messages need to be clearly delineated as something
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with a commercial purpose.
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Because he got accused of spamming somebody.
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And he was just trying to harass them.
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OK, two things if I can get to them.
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One is the supremacy clause in the Constitution.
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And the other is this law of attempted legislation to make
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spam a felony on the internet.
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I tried to.
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Spam is commercial.
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It's got to be defined as commercial gain
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and that kind of stuff, not forcing
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complicit media to see the pictures.
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Well, sir, the White Paper Doctor Two was written.
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If your email goes to somebody wrong,
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you get live in prison in a labor camp, OK?
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Right.
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What?
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I was accused of spamming people many times
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right after 9-11, Iraqi war.
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They leave their email addresses in the newspaper articles.
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And one guy, he shifts his email address
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so he doesn't have to receive these
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because he knows that he would be guilty of mispresient
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if he's alerted to the treason that's going on.
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Yeah, so apparently this guy goes and finds
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email addresses in newspapers and then harasses the people.
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He's worried about a law against spam.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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That's a fundamental misunderstanding
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of all of the problems with what you're doing.
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You bet.
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You bet.
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But it's fun.
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I can't believe you got the point that wrong.
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Yeah.
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It's a fun call, though, because you
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can see the dynamics that are going on.
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And like, I don't know, that sounds like an Alex Jones
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listener to me.
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They're trying to make a law making it illegal for me
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to send chain emails to my family.
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And that's going to really get in the way of me
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kneecapping this reporter over here.
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So we've got to stop this chain email law.
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It is not spam when I email a journalist 100 times in a day
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and tell him he's going to go to jail for treason.
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It's not spam.
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I'm not a bot.
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I'm an asshole.
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I sent every one of those messages by hand.
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I clicked the button.
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I'm proud of being an asshole.
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So Alex has one more caller that we're
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going to hear a little bit of.
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This person's talking about, so you've
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got the new money coming in, the new bills in the US.
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And a lot of people have a lot of theories about that.
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And this caller believes.
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We'll never have Harriet Tubman on the $20 bill.
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This caller believes that there's like metal strips
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and stuff in the money.
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Sure, sure.
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If you hold on to the money for more than a month,
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it'll be able to time that.
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I like this.
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This money will know when it's changed hands.
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This is a good conspiracy.
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I like this.
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And if you hold on to it too long, it'll auto-tax.
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Oh, no.
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Real quick, what that man was talking about on the money,
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this was on a program the other day.
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One of the things with the money,
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with the strip when you get it, if you don't pass it
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on within a month, you'll be taxed on it.
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Oh, it'll be valued, I reported that three years ago,
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from the Federal Reserve Board of Virginia's website.
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A real good person to have on would
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be Donald McIlvaney, intelligence advisor.
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If you could get him on and interview him.
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He's very well versed on all of this.
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I have no idea how the timer of a month
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would start.
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I love it.
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If I were to buy something with a bill, this is ridiculous.
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I like it.
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Anyway, I don't know anything about this Donald McIlvaney
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guy, but I did look into him a little bit.
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And I did find that his main website is just
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a portal to a gold sales outlet.
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How's he doing?
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I don't know.
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Oh, so he's saying that maybe you shouldn't get paper money,
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and instead you should get gold.
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So then he, of course, sells gold.
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That's very strange how that works.
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It's so strange.
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It's almost like these people with these completely nutty
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conspiracy theories about paper money
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always tend to sell gold.
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It's super weird.
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Super weird how people who hate the Fed and paper currency
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love and also sell and profit off of gold.
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They have a weird financial motivation.
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Super strange.
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So we go to the ninth.
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OK.
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And I didn't find that episode all that satisfying.
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A lot of it was about talking to that lawyer
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and just kind of spinning his wheels.
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Sure.
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Then I got in on the ninth, and I found myself very excited.
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Is that the right word?
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Interesting.
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Coming up in about, I don't know, 16, 17 minutes,
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we'll be joined by Jeff Singer and Dave Moore, who
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are on a local country FM in Colorado Springs.
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We're on, of course, on KWYD 1580 in Colorado Springs.
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But we're going to have them on because, of course,
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you heard last week they got suspended
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for criticizing the Bixie Chicks.
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And maybe you heard on the news that they got
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suspended for playing them.
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But we'll get to the bottom of it.
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Alex just.
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Oh, would you say they got canceled, if you will?
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Alex just misspoke there, and he tried
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to cover it by insinuating that the media had gotten
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this story wrong by making you think that the two DJs got
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in trouble for playing Dixie Chicks
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when maybe they got in trouble for criticizing them.
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Only Alex can get to the bottom of it when he misspeaks.
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How could you know?
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So these two guys worked for KKCS 102 FM in Colorado Springs.
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Sure.
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It's a station.
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They had to put in place a boycott
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on playing the Dixie Chicks songs
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after Natalie Maines had some comments at a concert
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that were seen as being anti-troop when she said
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that she was ashamed that President Bush was
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from the same state as her in Texas.
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Good for the Dixie Chicks for being ahead of their time,
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you know?
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Now we're all ashamed of the United States,
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but they really got there first.
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Obviously, this was an instance of everyone losing the damn
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mind and the right wing shitheads doing
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a dog pile on the Dixie Chicks.
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But some of the details of the story,
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particularly about this DJ situation,
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might not be what you remember.
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OK, is this a clown sending a, what's it, poison again?
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No, no, this isn't a ricin.
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This isn't a ricin situation.
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Dueling Elvis in person winners?
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I was going to say, this isn't that?
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Not quite.
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Oh, OK.
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So in terms of these actual two DJs,
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the story that I remembered was that they dared
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to play a couple songs from the Dixie Chicks,
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and that was enough to get them in trouble.
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Sure.
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An article from the Times Herald Record has some other details.
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Quote, KKCS had instituted a ban on the Dixie Chicks, who
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at the time had two songs on the charts.
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But two DJs at the station, Dave Moore and Jeff Singer,
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decided that two months was punishment enough.
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They broke the ban.
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At 6.15 AM on Monday, May 5, 2003,
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they locked themselves in the DJ booth.
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They started with long time gone,
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and they didn't stop playing Dixie Chicks tunes until noon.
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Was Adam Sandler and Brendan Fazier there?
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What in God's name happened?
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Yeah, I didn't remember that was part of the story.
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I don't remember airheads being real life.
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Yeah, even though I agree with the point of what they're
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doing, I totally understand that that's
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a brazen act of insubordination.
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Listen, you guys are heroes, but we can't just
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not do anything about this.
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Ultimately, what happened is that the station manager, Jerry
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Grant, gave the two a choice to either continue playing
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Dixie Chicks songs and get fired or stop, unlock the studio,
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and be suspended for a few days.
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And they chose to end the occupation of the station.
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So courageous.
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I have a huge problem with everything
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surrounding this story, but I'm not
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sure I disagree with these two DJs getting
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a slap on the wrist for essentially, like you said,
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living the movie airheads.
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Yeah, yeah, I mean, come on.
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You can't live the movie.
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You can't live the movie airheads.
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You just can't do it.
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It's like what they did.
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Even in the movie airheads, they couldn't
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live the movie airheads.
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What they did was for a good cause, sort of,
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as we learn later.
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And I support the statement of playing their music.
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Censorship is dumb no matter what.
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Absolutely.
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And so I wouldn't want them to be punished too harshly,
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but you can't lock yourself in a radio booth
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and pirate the transmission and expect nothing to happen.
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There is that.
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There is that.
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If I were your boss.
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But the protest is there's consequences.
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I think that is actually a pretty restrained response
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from the boss.
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Couple days suspension, whatever.
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Almost wise too.
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Because if he'd overreacted, everybody
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would have turned it into a cause.
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But giving them a slap on the wrist
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is almost insulting to them.
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Like, your protest was worth nothing more
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than take a day off.
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And from some of the articles that I found,
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it seems like Grant, the station manager guy, was like, yeah,
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we were getting ready to start playing their music again
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anyway, but we wanted to do it on our terms.
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And this wasn't the way we wanted to do it.
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Right, right, right.
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You guys stole our thunder.
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I could see how this would be like, eh, you know what?
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It's ultimately the audience and the people.
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It's been two months.
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The audience is kind of over it.
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The rage cycle has run its course.
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We got it.
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Freedom fries.
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Let's move on.
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It's stupid.
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And so the station's getting ready to be like,
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let's go back to normal.
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Let's just pretend this is happening.
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Landslide.
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People like that song.
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Yeah, everybody's fine.
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Everybody's fine.
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Yeah.
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And these guys just jump the gun.
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Yeah, which is also interesting, and maybe probably
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for the best, I bet they got a shit ton of free press
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out of that.
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He even suspended them, and then they came back,
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and everybody was like, yeah, you guys are back on that.
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I don't know.
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I don't know if you remember those dudes' names.
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Oh, no.
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They're titans of the industry now.
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I just said their names.
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You don't remember them.
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Dave Grohl.
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I mean, it's a story that you kind of remember in as much as
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I do remember that there were some DJs who got in trouble
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for playing Dixie Chicks.
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Sure, sure.
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I don't remember those details.
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I don't remember their names.
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No.
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I don't think that they're Kevin and Bean.
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Or have not gone on to live echoing throughout history.
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That's true.
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Yeah, so I don't know if the publicity stunt angle of it
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worked out as well as you imagine.
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But yeah.
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Yeah, good for that.
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Anyway, when I heard that they were going to be on,
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I thought, OK, here we go.
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Yeah.
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This is nonsense.
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This should be fun.
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This is exactly the kind of thing
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that I think is really fun about going back to 2003.
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Totally.
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These long-forgotten sort of, I don't want to call it trivial,
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because what happened to the Dixie Chicks was so unfair.
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And I'm not going to minimize that at all.
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Of course.
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But in terms of Alex's world, this
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is trivial compared to we're all going to die.
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Right, right, right.
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We're fighting the literal devil.
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Also, these two guys got suspended
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for playing the Dixie Chicks.
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So there's a little bit of a disconnect in stakes,
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if you will.
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And it's a time when these guys are probably
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not super political.
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But they don't know who Alex Jones is.
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He has a nationally syndicated show.
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Right, right, right, right.
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Why not go on it?
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Right, right, right, right.
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So you get this weird intersection
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of things that would never happen nowadays.
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And I think it's amazing.
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Yeah.
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Anyway, just to check in on where Alex is at with the NRA.
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How are they doing?
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They would then deny that S-22 even existed,
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the gun registration bill.
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But now it's come out that it does.
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And they weren't going to warn you about it.
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So they're loyal opposition.
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And it makes sense.
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When the NRA gets more members, when
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things are going badly for the Second Amendment,
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they get more signups.
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Yeah, so Alex doesn't like the NRA at all.
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He hates them.
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I don't like this.
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I don't like going into the past as much as you do.
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Because I find that his behavior is less egregious.
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And thus makes me feel more like I'm saying stuff
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where I'm like, I mean, yeah, that's a good point.
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I don't like it.
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I don't like it.
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Because his behavior is still egregious.
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It's just under the surface.
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No, no, no.
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But also, here's the thing that we
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need to really finally delineate.
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It's like, yes, opposition to the NRA is great.
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Opposition to Bush is great.
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We can agree with those things as sentences
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on a piece of paper.
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Correct.
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Now, the motivation for why Alex is against both of those things
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is different than what we think.
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Totally.
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And so I actually think that you can be,
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what you're experiencing is exactly
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what lured a lot of people who wouldn't agree
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with Alex's radical politics.
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Exactly.
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Into thinking he was more in the center than he actually is.
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Totally.
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You know, you think like, oh, this guy doesn't like the NRA.
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Right.
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Maybe he's one of these people who's kind of conservative
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but kind of gets it.
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No, he's more extreme than the NRA.
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Totally.
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I know.
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That's so frustrating.
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He's attacking from way far to the right.
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I know.
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It's so frustrating that he could get away
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with it conceivably.
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Yeah.
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And he does.
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He does.
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And he does, as we're talking about him now.
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So obviously got away with it.
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And I think it worked really well for him at this era.
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Yeah, he nailed it.
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Yeah.
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And I think one of the things that is really good for him,
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too, is this branding.
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And we're talking about this attacking the NRA
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from the right, because he is a extreme right wing person.
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Right, right, right.
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And attacking Bush because he's extremely
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far to the right of Bush, not because he's to the left
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or he's in the center.
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People could get that impression.
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And Alex plays into that impression.
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Totally.
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And in this next clip, he's talking
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about how people call him a commie
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because he's against Bush.
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Again, I will make the admission here.
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I'm pro-gun 110%.
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It's an absolute right.
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I'm pro-sovereignty.
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I'm pro-family.
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I'm for low taxes.
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I'm for abolishing the Federal Reserve.
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That means in today's dialectic that I am a ultra communist.
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Now, if you're a neocon who's an admitted Trotskyite,
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if you're a beatnik who has a national talk show
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and who's an admitted communist, you are now a conservative.
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And I'm not being sarcastic.
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I am now a communist because I'm pro-America.
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They, the communists, learned how to flap American flags
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in our face and talk about how conservative they are.
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They are now the conservatives.
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See, Alex has this superficial defining himself
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by opposition to things that actually
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does fool a lot of people.
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I'm opposed to Bush.
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And now everyone calls me a commie.
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When I was against Clinton, they called
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me a hard-right extremist.
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You were, and you still are.
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Right.
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Yeah.
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I don't know if I ever had anybody who I heard say,
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like, Alex is a communist because he's against Bush.
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No.
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I just think that people thought he was more sensible
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than you might think on first blush.
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Right.
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And if you are an enemy of any part of the right wing,
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you will be called a communist, regardless
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of anything you may or may not have ever said or believed.
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Possibly by other people in the right wing.
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Yeah.
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No, definitely.
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Like Alex is calling Michael Savage a communist.
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Exactly.
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No, definitely that.
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That's what I'm saying.
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This is just bickering.
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Yeah.
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It's just whining.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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So I think that there is a pretty key problem there, too.
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And I do think that it's something
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that I notice about Alex.
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And that is the defining self by opposition
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or by others' response.
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Yeah.
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When he talks all the time about knowing that he's right
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because people are attacking him and stuff,
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it's like, that's not a reliable metric of, you know,
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oh, I'm right because everybody hates me.
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It's like, wow.
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Yeah.
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Does that mean that ISIS is right?
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Yeah.
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No.
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If he goes to therapy one time, the first question
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is just going to be like, how do you define yourself?
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And he's going to talk about everybody but himself.
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And he's going to be like, no, but like from the inside.
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And it's going to be six years of constant talking
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to just even figure out where he starts.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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So these DJs come on.
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And I got to say, there's a little bit
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of a different style for Alex.
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He opens the interview by asking a tough question.
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OK.
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Let me just get this out of the way up front.
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Was this a stunt you guys pulled with management?
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Absolutely not.
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No.
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Nope.
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All right.
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Well, we did it.
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Good journalism, everybody.
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Let's go.
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Let's wrap it up and go home.
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That's certainly better journalism
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than he normally does.
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It is.
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It is.
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It is very much better than a leading question like, so,
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how long has your management been evil
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and in the pocket of the devil and the globalists
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that have been trying to oppress you?
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I think Alex's bedside manner leaves a little bit
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to be desired there in terms of like, was this a stunt?
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No.
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Shit.
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No follow-up questions.
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I was going to say, that does have the feel of like,
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maybe if I just surprise them aggressively,
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they'll be tricked into answering honestly.
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So one of the things that I think Alex had been presenting,
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and I think it's what a lot of people felt,
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was that this was a principled stand
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that these DJs were making.
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That it was, they were opposed to the band,
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and they played this music as a way of being like, no.
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We believe in free speech.
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Pirate radio.
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Vietnam War.
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We're doing it all over again.
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If you listen to them, it's very clear
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that that's not the case.
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OK.
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They did not agree with what Natalie said.
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They agreed with the band.
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They just thought it had run its course.
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Due to a majority of, not all of our listeners,
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a couple of months ago saying they did not
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want to hear the Dixie Chicks on our radio station because
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of what Natalie Main said about our president over in London.
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So it was starting to turn the other way,
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like can you start playing the Chicks?
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Yeah, we had requests for them and everything.
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But we decided we are, for our troops, 100%,
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we're for the president 100%, but we're also
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for the First Amendment 100%.
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Should Natalie Main, the Dixie Chicks, say what she said?
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Absolutely not.
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Well, America, I mean, in America,
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you've got the First Amendment.
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That's what the military is for, is
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to defend our constitutional republic.
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And just this whole blacklisting, this whole demonization
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of the Dixie Chicks over this has sent shockwaves
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across the country, a giant chilling effect,
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and America's going in the wrong direction here.
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Well, but they were fine with this for two months.
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Yeah.
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They were fine.
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Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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Until the tide started to turn and people were like,
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eh, we want to listen to the Dixie Chicks.
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Ed, didn't you read the First Amendment?
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It has an expiration date of two months.
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I don't know.
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I mean, I don't know how I feel about this
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from a station management perspective.
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Do they have the right to just say,
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I don't want to play this person's songs?
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If they don't have a contract that they have to play,
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maybe it's shitty if you're not playing someone's music because
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of a political reason.
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But if you're a metal station, you're
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not required to play reggae, right?
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Unless, I don't know, Wyclef says something anti-Bush,
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then you have to play it.
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And so it is a protest to not play it.
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What if this is, like, we're talking mid, late 90s,
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you've got an alternative station,
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but you hate Peanut, just personally.
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Just personally.
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Do you have to play 311?
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I assume not.
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If you're a station manager and you just
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have a personal problem with Nick Hexum,
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do you have to play 311?
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I don't think so.
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I don't know.
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It's weird.
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And certainly, I'm opposed to politically just saying,
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no, your politics are such that I'm not
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going to play your songs.
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But I mean, if I was going to be impressed by these DJs having
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any interest in the First Amendment,
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then their actions would have probably come earlier.
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No, it is a little bit like a.
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This is just, I've decided that it is no longer popular for me
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to suppress this speech.
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Yeah, I mean, it's like if Barnes and Noble was like,
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eh, we're not going to carry Jane Austen.
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We're just not doing it.
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I remember her comments about Bush.
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And so we don't carry it anymore.
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And then two months later, they're like, eh,
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we'll put Jane Austen back in there.
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No big deal.
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Yeah, this new Jane Austen novel is pretty hot.
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People like it.
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So yeah, this is pretty much exactly what they say.
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They're just like, oh, the listeners
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wanted them to come back.
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We listened to our listeners.
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And the listeners said they didn't want to play it,
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so we listened.
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Well, that's good, but I do want you guys
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to go back and get on the radio and go,
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you can tune into Alex Jones at 1580.
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Will you do that for me?
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No, seriously, guys.
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Was that a joke?
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No.
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No.
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He said no.
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Seriously, guys.
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I think that was not a joke.
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That was very much not a joke.
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Guys, please give me a plug, please.
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That wasn't even like one of those jokes where you laugh,
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but you're hoping they'll be like, no, no, no.
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We're totally going to do that.
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You'll be like, no, that wasn't what I was trying to do.
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I was just making a joke.
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It wasn't that.
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It was like, hey, plug me on your show.
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No, seriously.
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Hey, guys, you made a lot of news with that suspension,
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and you might have more listeners right now.
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And could you please plug me?
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Yeah, it is nice to know that clout chasing, still
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strong back in 2003.
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Oh, yeah, he was an early adopter.
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So Alex has, it's fucking clear.
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He doesn't really spell it out, but it's really clear
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that he thinks that there's a conspiracy afoot.
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So here's the conspiracy.
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Clear channel on a bunch of radio stations.
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I already believe it.
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Right?
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Yeah.
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So Clear Channel own a bunch of radio stations
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and also a bunch of concert venues.
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True.
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So what they have done.
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And billboards?
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They have manufactured a whole crisis
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where the Dixie Chicks get kicked off these stations that
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are owned by Clear Channel.
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And then they go on tour, and they sell out all their shows
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at these venues that are owned by Clear Channel.
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Now, I would suggest that the Dixie Chicks don't
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need to sell more tickets.
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No, they were doing all right.
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They were huge.
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They were about at the peak of their power.
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They were huge.
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Yeah.
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Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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They were huge.
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One of the reasons that it was so nuts
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that they were almost piling on them in the right way
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was because they were in the top three, top four country music
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acts in the world.
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They were killing it.
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They were killing it.
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Yeah, yeah.
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That's why they had to be taken down,
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because they had too large of a platform to criticize Bush
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with.
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Yes.
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So Alex tries to lay out this conspiracy to the DJs.
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Now, for this conspiracy to make sense,
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there's two things that need to be true.
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One, this needs to be a Clear Channel station.
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True.
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Two, the venue where the Dixie Chicks are playing
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needs to be owned by Clear Channel.
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Both of those must be true for this conspiracy
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to have any effect on them.
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Now, I have read that is your station Clear Channel?
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No.
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OK.
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I mean, I have some on there.
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They said that simultaneously?
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I actually read this piece of history.
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They've been asked that a lot.
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Clear Channel, a big part of their business
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isn't just playing music.
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It's putting on concerts.
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Is it true, from what you know, that Clear Channel was actually
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involved in promoting Dixie Chicks concerts?
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I don't know if they are the promoter behind the Dixie
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Chicks concerts or not.
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I know they have several venues across the country,
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including a couple in Colorado.
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And they have Clear Channel Entertainment,
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which promotes concerts.
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But I'm not sure if they're one of the promoters for the Chicks
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or not.
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Have the Dixie Chicks played at their venues?
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They, not at their, well, their venue in Colorado
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is fairly small.
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The Dixie Chicks will be playing at the Pepsi Center, which
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is a large venue.
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That's where the Nuggets and the Avalanche play.
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Yeah, well, I have read that they've been involved.
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So could it be a larger publicity stunt?
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Boy, they get all this attention.
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I guess we won't know.
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But you know, on radio, people do pull stunts.
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And we're trying to find that out.
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People do pull stunts.
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True.
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But this has fallen apart.
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Usually, it's more like payola or something like that.
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Sure.
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Not necessarily this.
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I think that this interview has fascinatingly fallen apart.
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Because these DJs are not free speech crusaders in the way
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that Alex maybe would have liked them to be.
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It would have been great.
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And now, they have refuted twice in the span of about a minute
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pillars of his conspiracy that Clear Channel is trying
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to boost their live ticket sales for one of the most popular
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acts in the world by pulling a stunt where they get
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kicked off radio stations.
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Yeah, yeah.
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If you were Alex, and you had a top three of things
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that you hoped were true, at least one of those
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should have been true.
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Man.
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None of those.
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No.
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Oh, that's not good.
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Nope.
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At the very least, you're not a data point
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for the Clear Channel conspiracy.
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So I think Alex is recognizing some of the similar things
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that I am, and that is that this has fallen apart.
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Sure.
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And so he decides to retreat to attacking these guys.
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Ha, ha, ha, ha, ha.
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We support Natalie Maine's right to say whatever she wants.
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So since you said it, we don't agree with what you said
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by any means.
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Let me ask you a question.
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You guys supported, then, the takeover of Iraq.
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Well, you know, we support our troops.
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And it's hard to say whether we're there,
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because I don't know personally whether or not
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there are weapons of mass destruction
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and whether there's a necessity to do what is being done.
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I'm not an expert on that.
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But you're supporting the troops end to end.
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We understand that, but wouldn't you
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say it supports the troops, not to sell Saddam, VX, and sarin,
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and then order our troops to blow up the bunkers,
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and then when they breathe that stuff in 91,
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to not give them treatment?
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Because that's a big deal.
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That really hurt the troops right there.
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Well, that's true.
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Of course, we're just country DJs,
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and for us, it's about the music, mainly.
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Yeah.
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They are just country DJs.
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This is unfair.
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This is a writ.
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I like that defense.
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Yeah.
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I would like to use that.
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Yeah, OK.
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So my position is that I support the troops.
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And your rebuttal to that is making
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me own literally everything the government has ever done?
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Great.
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How about I tell you that I'm a country DJ,
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and we move the fuck along, because I'm not
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going to litigate every decision the government has ever made.
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What a great comeback.
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Because what do you expect from a country DJ?
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I'll tell you what.
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Complicated and clear-eyed views of global international
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politics?
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No.
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And they even express.
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We have some fun on our show.
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We play music.
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We're not all that political.
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Certainly, coming on a show, you certainly confuse us.
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Why did you say all those words?
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I think that that is Alex just trying to take something
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from the interview, because it went so poorly.
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Clear channel conspiracy didn't work out.
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These guys aren't heroes.
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They're kind of just morning zoo dicks.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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If you have been deflated so completely by these assholes,
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then there's also that little bit of Alex's resentment
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coming out of like, you didn't give me what I want,
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so I will take it from you.
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That kind of feel, yeah.
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So I think that there's a little bit of a codependency
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with the audience.
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And this caller who calls in after the interview
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wants to make Alex feel better and try and help him
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with that clear channel conspiracy.
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First of all, the name of the promotions company
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is SFX Entertainment is promoting the Dixie Chicks concert.
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You go to the website, it comes up Clear Channel Entertainment.
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Yeah, that's what I've seen that actually, who was it?
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It was Reuters ran an article like two weeks ago on that.
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Yeah, SFX, and it's Clear Channel.
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And then they start the ban, which then
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makes it all go down.
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Everybody suddenly wants it.
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Then they make more money off of it.
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But here's the big scam.
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It doesn't matter.
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It still creates a chilling effect for everybody else.
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Ooh, you better not speak out, because then you'll be banned,
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and people never even know it was a scam.
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Yeah, second thing, I just kind of wanted to gloss over that.
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Does that make you mad?
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Yeah, it does.
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It really does.
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It should.
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It does.
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It really does make me mad.
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SFX Entertainment is Live Nation that
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was bought by Clear Channel and then got spun off
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into its own thing again.
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Yeah, I don't know.
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I couldn't go back and figure out if the Dixie Chicks,
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all of their events were run through Live Nation.
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Sure.
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I don't know.
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I don't think.
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And I also don't care.
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It doesn't prove any conspiracy here.
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Yeah, I was going to say, on the list of, again, I believe
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we are at this moment fighting the literal devil who
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is destroying all of Iraq in order,
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in service of destroying all of the United States.
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So what Clear Channel's doing about the Dixie Chicks
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promotions?
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Trying to make a few extra bucks on tickets?
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I mean, yeah.
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Whatever.
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Go for it, Clear Channel.
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I would say that I'd be willing to stipulate, and not
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accept as true, but I'll just go ahead and not even fight it,
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that Clear Channel, by virtue of Alive Nation,
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is doing ticketing for all of the Dixie Chicks.
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Sure.
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Sure, why not?
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That still doesn't prove the conspiracy.
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And now it's just acting like hearing that is like,
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a-ha-ha, slim dunk.
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True.
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Now, I won't put it past the recording industry.
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They pull off some bullshit all the time.
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Yeah, man.
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I saw Josie and the Pussycats.
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Yeah, the whole industry's bullshit.
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That movie was fraught with scandal.
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I get it, all of these conspiracies.
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So a caller calls in, another one, and he's got a theory.
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But sometimes, Alex's show is being blocked out by waves.
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OK.
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I think sometimes when you come on air,
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they try to block you out, too, because you
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hit so much truthful points.
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What do you mean they try to block a show?
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Well, I know frequencies, I know other listeners
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in the area who listen to you at the same hours.
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If they're going to listen to you late at night,
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they can't get you in, too.
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And it'd be a frequency, and you can hear it,
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but I don't know if they're trying to block you out or what,
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but sometimes, I call other people,
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and they get in the same thing, too.
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But you can hear us fine during the day, though.
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Fine during the day, but at nighttime, when people are home
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and want to listen to the radio, yeah, everybody
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wants to get the same block out.
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They can't get you in.
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Yeah, well, that's probably just because AMs
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aren't as strong at night.
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Listen, thank you for the call.
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I appreciate it.
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Great, great.
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What a bad job by Alex.
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What a bad job.
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I just wrote down, what do you mean they block us out?
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Like, Alex said, what do you mean they block us out?
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Not, obviously, they block us out.
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They're always trying to block us out.
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They've been trying to block us out since I started,
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because I know too much.
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Well, I think Alex realizes there's not
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money in that, probably.
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And the only action you might end up precipitating
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is harassment of the stations that do play him.
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That's true.
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And you might end up cutting in.
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You might bite the hand that feeds there.
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Sure, sure.
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Can't do that.
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So this might actually just be something like,
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it's not even worth it to try and convince people.
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Spin this into, yeah.
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We're under attack.
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Like, what are you going to do?
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You're going to end up fucking with the affiliates.
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Right, right, right, right, right.
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No good.
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So Alex gets down to describing his enemies.
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See if you hear the devil in here.
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It's not a dictatorship of Bill Clinton or George Bush.
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They're just puppets.
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It's a dictatorship of the military industrial complex
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was bankrolled and founded to run this country
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by the private European banks.
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There's no fight between the EU and the UN in America.
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It's all owned by the same private shareholders,
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the Warbirds, the Rothschilds, the Rockefellers,
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the Dutch Royal Family, the British Royal Family,
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the Bilderberg Group, the people that meet and publicly call
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for open world dictatorship.
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So that sounds astoundingly terrestrial.
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Yeah.
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That sounds like business interests
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who have an idea of working together
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to create a worldwide dictatorship tyranny.
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Yeah.
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It does not seem like it's people
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who are in the employ of the devil who has contacted them
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via transdimensional demons and offered them life extension
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technology if they carry out an elaborate and hyper complicated
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plan to slowly and orderly kill off humanity.
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Should they fail to do that, they
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have a backup plan to just really super bio weapons
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and kill everybody off.
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It seems like this is a guy who wants
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to at least be taken seriously as a not science fiction
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writer.
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Yeah.
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His improvised storytelling is much more like Grisham
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at this point as opposed to Philip K. Dick.
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This is the firm.
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That's what this is.
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It's fighting against powerful lawyers,
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taking over everything.
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No, I got it.
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It's not magical realism.
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No, no.
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Indeed, in fact, it seems like his biggest problem
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is ultimately what the end result of capitalism
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always seems to be, which is staggering wealth and inequality
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leading to an aristocratic business class.
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I'd love for you to go back in time
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and talk to him about that.
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That would be interesting.
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So that caller who's talking about Alex being under attack
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through waves, right?
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Sure.
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Man, I thought he was nuts.
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Oh, have we changed our mind already?
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US terror plan called Cuban invasion pretext.
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US military leaders proposed in 62 a secret plan
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to commit terrorist acts against Americans
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and blame Cuba to create a pretext for invasion
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and ouster of communist leader Fidel Castro who they put in.
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No, they use the war against the communists
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as a way to warp the minds of our military men and our CIA
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and get them to do evil things and set up
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a culture of evil, which is now used for narcotics trafficking
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and money laundering and white slavery,
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every other evil you can imagine.
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And it goes on.
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It's a scalar attack.
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Too much truth.
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Now, Alex, he plays a song and then he comes back
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from break and is like, yeah, we're in Texas
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and the satellites in Minnesota, so sometimes there's problems.
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He's very just like, eh, it happens.
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It happens.
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It's part of the gig.
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That's fair, but could be an attack
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because he's telling too much truth.
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Possible.
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So Alex has an article in the LA Times
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that he's been bringing up a little bit,
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and this has to do with our old boy Joseph McCarthy.
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Oh, boy.
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Continuing with the news, despite McCarthy,
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red peril really was.
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John Maroney, LA Times.
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And it goes on.
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It says the document shouldn't be
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allowed to undermine the important historical fact
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that Soviet communism was a very real threat to US defense
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and freedom, and the anti-communist fight waged
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in the country was a moral one, even though the Communist
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Party succeeded in seducing an estimated 230,000
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Americans to its ranks over the course of 40 years.
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And it now says that the documents released
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show that McCarthy was right.
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This article from the LA Times is an opinion piece,
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and Alex is actually lying about the main thrust of the article.
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The author, John Maroney, is arguing
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that there was a point to opposing communism
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during the Cold War, but the actions of people
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like Joseph McCarthy gave that opposition a really bad name.
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Because McCarthy was an opportunist, fraud,
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and demagogue. Even in that sentence,
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Alex reads the words, quote, the documents
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shouldn't be allowed to undermine
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the important historical fact that the Soviet communism was
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a very real threat.
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Like, those words don't make sense.
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Sure.
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Aren't his listeners curious why this article is arguing
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that documents would possibly undermine
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that notion if this article is about vindicating McCarthy?
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Possible.
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The headline literally starts, quote, despite McCarthy.
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Yeah.
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Anyway.
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Yeah.
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Those things are in the headline and everything,
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because these documents that got released in 2003
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were a record of secret hearings that McCarthy held
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with witnesses prior to them making public appearances,
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and he was attempting to intimidate them.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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From an article about the documents from the BBC, quote,
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many had only tenuous connections with communists
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through family members or book clubs where Marx was read
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or unions with left wing leaders.
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The new documents paint a picture
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of a senator out of control, summoning witnesses
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at short notice and brow beating them
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with the threat of imprisonment or public disgrace.
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But it was noticeable that those he could not
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intimidate in private were often not called in public session.
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How shitty is our government press
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that they're like, these documents show
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Joseph McCarthy was unhinged.
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Like, I don't know if you were alive when he was around?
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They reveal a new level of artifice and craft.
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Sure.
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Sure.
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The articles that I was reading about this really
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laid out how different he behaved in the public hearings
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and these private ones.
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Sure.
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And there was kind of, it almost feels
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like a feeling out process.
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Like that last sentence there, you
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know, the people that wouldn't back down to him
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typically weren't called for the public ones
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because that doesn't create the public perception that he
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is looking to grandstand with.
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Sure.
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Sure.
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Also from the article, quote, according
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to Senate historian David Ritchie,
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the private hearings were more of an inquisition
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using circumstantial evidence, hearsay, and intimidation
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to force people to acknowledge his point of view.
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The documents that came out in 2003 paint
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Joseph McCarthy as an out of control lunatic
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trying to run a witch hunt.
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And this LA Times editorial is an attempt
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to remind readers that just because McCarthy really
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sucked, that doesn't mean that Soviet communism didn't exist.
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Hey, Torquemada, what do you say to the inquisition?
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If you were really someone who was opposed to communism
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and you'd read this article, you couldn't come away from it,
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honestly, with the position that it vindicated McCarthy.
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The article literally says, quote,
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many seem to have forgotten that the Communist
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Party was dedicated to replacing our democratic form
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of government with a totalitarian state
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similar to what existed in the Soviet Union.
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McCarthy and those who exploited his excesses
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are largely to blame for this.
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According to Moroni, McCarthy is a detriment
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to the opposition of communism.
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Essentially, the only two conclusions
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I can come to about Alex's coverage of this article
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are the following.
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One, he didn't read the article and he
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thinks it actually says that McCarthy was totally cool
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and he's just making up what the body of the text says.
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Two, defending McCarthyism and the tactics of witch hunting
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is more important to Alex than actually being opposed
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to communism, which makes his anti-communism essentially
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tactical as opposed to something that's based on principle.
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Yeah, I was going to say.
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I'm not entirely sure what I think.
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I was going to say, you just read
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Alex is also a detriment to anti-communism
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in the exact same fashion that Joseph McCarthy was.
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So naturally, he would want to defend McCarthy as well.
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Yeah, it seems like.
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Nobody's like, hey, you know what's great?
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It's the John Birch Society fighting communism.
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I think they really did a great job.
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I think they really got to the points
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and they really hammered it on.
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It seems like he is, you know, like idealistically
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and ideologically opposed to communism and all this.
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Sure.
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But if he can't do it like McCarthy did it,
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he doesn't want to do it.
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Exactly, exactly.
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Yes, if I can't defeat sex trafficking
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with a daring sunlight raid, then I
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don't want to deal with that.
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I just want to make everybody else angry about it.
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Yeah, I get the sense that he would not
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be so opposed to communism if his route to do it
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was to be an economics professor or a researcher who
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got no fanfare and didn't get to do
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these bombastic public hearings like McCarthy, which
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is Alex's radio show.
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If he wasn't able to make a show out of it,
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I don't know if he would be as interested.
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If leftists weren't as academic and more just shithead
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screaming, we might have Alex on our side
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is basically what we're talking about here.
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Maybe.
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Yeah, it's possible.
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He just hates theory so much, Dan.
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He hates it whenever they get into theory.
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Yeah.
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So Alex takes another call.
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And this guy has a decent point, and Alex
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has a terrible answer to it.
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And that is, why are we even talking
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about the assault weapons ban?
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It doesn't even come up until next year.
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2004 is when it's up for renewal or let it lap.
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Sure, sure.
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And so Alex has an interesting answer
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that I think is totally wrong and on brand.
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Hi, Alex.
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How are you doing?
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I've reflected on some things over the last 24 hours,
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and there's several different points.
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First off, something dawned upon me.
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Why is the administration dealing with the assault weapons
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ban 15 months before the issue even comes due in the middle
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of this climate with so many concerns about the war
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and so forth?
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Why even deal with that out of the blue so far in advance?
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That's strange.
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Because they want to act like they're right when they
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activate some mind control fruitcake.
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You know, The Matrix is coming out,
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which they say is a big trigger.
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Yeah.
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Tend to agree.
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So he tends to agree that there's probably
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going to be a shooting at the second Matrix opening
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or second Matrix movie, because it's going to be a trigger.
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And then they're talking about the assault weapons ban stuff
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so they can be right in advance for this thing that
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didn't happen.
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Right.
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Cool.
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And this is a precedent to the way
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he engages with shootings in the future.
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Like, this pattern of thinking is there all along.
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Yeah.
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That almost sounds like Norm Pattis, doesn't it?
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The caller?
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Doesn't that voice almost sound like him?
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I'm not sure.
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Through a phone, I can kind of hear it,
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and I would love to find out that that was actually
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a young Norm.
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No way.
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Like, developing their relationship.
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No way.
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Oh, man.
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The vibe that I get from Norm from those early appearances
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is either someone who legitimately doesn't really
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understand what Alex does or somebody
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who really, really wants people to think
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he doesn't understand what he does.
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I don't know.
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It just sounds like we're in a TV show in our eighth season,
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and we start doing all the flashbacks.
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And it turns out our main characters all coincidentally
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met 20 years ago.
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We've already done that, though, and in the 2015 episodes,
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we heard Owen Troyer call in as a fan.
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That's true.
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What a weird world.
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Yeah.
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So here, Alex is wrong about things
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that will happen in the future.
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In Boston, Logan Airport, and four other airports,
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they put NASA brain scanners in to, quote,
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tell if you're agitated.
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In 1984, they didn't scan your brain.
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This is total information awareness, worse than 1984.
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Then they say, oh, but it's to keep you safe.
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It's to keep you safe, America.
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We just want to keep you safe.
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The borders stay wide open, and they're putting the Bathys
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back in power in Iraq because they're
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good thugs trained by the CIA in the 70s and 80s.
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I'm really interested.
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I know this is getting repetitive in these 2003
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episodes, but I'm really, really interested in what's
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going to happen when de-Bathification comes around.
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Because he's hitting this note so consistently.
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On every show, he's bringing up how the Bathys are in charge.
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And it's because that's who the US government
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and the globalists want to be in charge.
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Right, right, right.
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He's so insistent about something
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that we know for a fact to be 100% diametrically
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the opposite.
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And he is going to eventually run into that brick wall,
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driving at 60 miles an hour.
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Exactly.
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And that's what I'm so interested to see.
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Does he hit the brakes at a certain point?
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Or does he just go straight through?
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Yeah, I don't know.
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So we'll see.
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So another caller calls in.
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Is he like the Road Runner where he paints the wall,
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he paints the tunnel on there, and he goes through it.
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You're like, what the fuck?
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I feel like that metaphorically is
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what he does a lot of the time, just create a fake tunnel.
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Drive through it.
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So a caller calls in, wants to know about underground prisons
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that are being built.
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I wanted to ask you if you had any information on underground
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prison camps that they're developing.
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Yes, I have mainstream news articles.
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INS Kentucky poured concrete for two years
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under a giant underground old coal mine
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and built a supermax on top of it with airfields
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and everything.
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They're building giant prisons everywhere.
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It's the new economy, a giant prison economy
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where they literally own us, where torture
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is the order of the day and is a virtue.
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That's very interesting because down here in Trinidad,
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we're having seismographic readings.
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And in Trinidad was a site of an old Japanese internment camp,
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and it has old mines, but they're
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getting seismographic readings, but there's no faults there.
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And so I'm going to collect as much heart as I can.
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Sir, your Denver International Airport
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has pictures of Nazis machine gunning piles of dead bodies,
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satanic art everywhere, a giant FEMA camp on it publicly.
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Sure.
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Really?
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Yeah, you ever seen the artwork in the Denver airport?
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Bro?
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Yeah, so cool.
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This is very strange.
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This is very strange to listen to Alex
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be like, the prison pipeline or the prison industrial complex
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is going to eventually become what it is.
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Like, he's right on about the prison complex.
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And then to hear the crazier conspiracy theory
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from his caller.
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Like, that weirds me out.
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We're living in a complete topsy-turvy world
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because normally, nowadays, he would come out with something
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like, you know, the devil's killing everybody,
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and they're like, yeah, but maybe the devil
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is just trying to raise the corporate tax rate.
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Like, you know, it's a very weird inversion
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of the way this goes.
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Yeah, it is true.
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And speaking of, like, an inversion of the present,
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this next call is fucked up, if you
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consider Alex in the present.
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OK.
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Now, that's what I'm saying.
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We need to increase, you know, demanding that they bring
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these people to justice, the whole Bush administration
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and all these surf minions and bootlickers.
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Well, let me ask you a question.
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You certainly know that Bush is just a puppet, though, right?
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Right.
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We need to get his puppet mask.
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Well, I would agree that the Rothschilds and others
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need to be exposed.
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We've got a person exposing them.
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They need to be exterminated like they
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had a plan for everybody else.
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If it's good enough for everybody else,
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it's probably good enough for them.
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Well, I'm not sure my audio's cutting out,
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but I appreciate your call, Omar.
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Right.
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Your audio is cutting out.
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Wow.
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Sure.
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Wow.
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His caller said that they need to exterminate their enemies.
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And the puppet masters of the globalist puppets like Bush.
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Jesus.
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And Alex pretends that he didn't hear him and goes to break.
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When he comes back from the break,
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he makes a point to bring this back up.
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I talked to the folks running the show.
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I wanted to, because I wasn't sure.
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I heard what I heard from Curtis.
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Or no, it wasn't Curtis.
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Curtis is coming up.
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That was, I was talking to Omar last segment
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from Michigan, and so I did hear what I thought I heard.
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My audio was low.
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Omar, let me explain something to you, OK?
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I'm sure you're a nice person and mean well,
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and I appreciate your hard work, and you
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say you're waking folks up.
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But look, I've tried to make this clear,
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and this is what I truly believe and know,
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and I know what I'm talking about.
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I work on this probably harder than anybody else.
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Fighting the new world order, defending my family,
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standing against crime, standing against evil.
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Have you not learned what I've said here, what history shows?
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The globalists carry out violent acts
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against their own institutions as a way
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to legitimize power and control and domination
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and the destruction of liberty.
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Violence is not the way to go.
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I will say it over and over and over again.
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Now, I know that Alex says politically,
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I want to kill you in the future or whatever.
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He'll give lip service to the idea of nonviolence.
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This is an instance where he clearly
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was caught off guard by this caller saying,
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we need to exterminate these folks,
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and then went to break and decided to come back,
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re-bring it up to stress that violence is not the way to go.
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Dan, haven't you heard the old adage?
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If you're not a liberal at 20, you have no heart.
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And if you don't want to exterminate the poor at 40,
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you have no brain.
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Everybody knows this.
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There's a real sense that I get that Alex might be a little bit
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more keenly aware of how dangerous some
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of the people who are drawn to his world view may be.
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Possible.
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I don't know, though.
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It's foreign as hell.
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Maybe he just doesn't have the, I mean,
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he's just more in a vulnerable position, you know?
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He's still got bosses at this time.
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He doesn't have complete autocratic, yeah, well,
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that's fair.
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But I mean, he still has to answer to someone.
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There is still someone above him.
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And now there is no one above him.
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Well, his dad is HR.
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I don't know if his dad is still alive.
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I think this is a psycho situation where his dad is
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actually in his attic a skeleton.
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I just think it's very interesting that Alex is,
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I mean, it's still, like, obviously this broadcast is
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still incredibly irresponsible, but there
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is a complete world of difference
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between taking a step back to calmly and emphatically stress
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that there's no violence.
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Violence is no good.
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It's not the answer.
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And Alex's long pornographic rants
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about slitting people's throats and talking
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about how all the globalists are already dead and all
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this in the present day.
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Yeah, I mean, if you want to, that's such a bullshit
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argument, cancel culture.
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Look at how people act when there are possible consequences.
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Look at how people act whenever you just
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know that consequences are available versus when you act
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when there are absolutely none.
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To be done.
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There's something to be said for that.
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You know, it's there.
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It's there.
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You act better.
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So I think that this leads Alex into.
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Or at least psychos do.
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Alex, for the rest of the episode,
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he gets into a bit of a headspace
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where he's saying things that, like, a lot of it
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sounds pretty good.
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I don't believe him.
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And obviously, because I know where his show goes.
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Sure, sure.
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Certainly don't.
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Living in the future is tough.
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Don't think that he means it, but.
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We have just got to continue to be bold, to be loving,
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to stand against this evil.
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Hate is not going to power us.
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Hate is not going to get the job done.
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Now, certainly, you have a right to defend yourself
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against criminals and against people that are assaulting you
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and assaulting your family.
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But offensively, offensively, it is
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wrong to go after the illegitimate government
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because they want that.
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That's the reason?
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I guess?
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It's really interesting for Alex to say
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that hate can't power their movement or whatever.
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Because, I mean, I would say that that's
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one of the major problems with the right wing
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as it exists today.
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Yeah, yeah.
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Because hate fuels their worldview.
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And I think it did, too, for Alex in 2003.
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Totally.
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Maybe he wasn't even as aware of it.
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It's not as overt.
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Yeah.
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Or he just casts such a wide net,
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he doesn't even know the difference
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between hate and not hate.
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And so, you know, you got this head space
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where you don't want to exterminate your enemies.
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No, that would be bad.
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Alex just wants them to back off.
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Sure.
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Back off, globalists.
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Sure.
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We are not revolutionaries.
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We are restorationists.
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We want America, the republic, back.
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Back.
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We just want the globalists to stop what they're doing
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and to back off.
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And we know that when they see weakness, they attack.
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We know when they see ignorance, they move forward.
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And I want to advise the globalists right now,
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I want to give you some really good advice.
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And you can check.
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I've done 800 radio interviews since 9-1-1.
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800 now.
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I've done my own syndicated show on AM and FM's
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all over the country.
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That doesn't count as an interview.
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I have a website that gets millions of hits a month.
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Definitely doesn't count as an interview.
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Let me tell you, for every 500 positive emails,
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I get one negative.
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And the people are so incoherent,
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they are probably going to be IQs or lower.
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I have done 800 interviews.
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And one out of 30 callers disagrees with me.
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Folks, let me tell you something, globalists.
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You're in a lot of trouble.
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They're in so much trouble.
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Alex has good reviews.
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And people often don't find it worth their time
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to argue with them, I guess.
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But yeah, they just need to back off.
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And hey, there's good news.
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I've got some advice for Alex.
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Back off.
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Why would he?
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They're winning or something.
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Sure.
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I would say that if the globalists, when they see
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weakness, they attack.
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And when they see dumbness, they move forward.
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Sure.
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The preceding eight years after this
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indicate that Alex and all of his friends are dumb and weak.
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Yes, correct.
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Because the globalists didn't stop anything
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according to Alex.
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That is exactly what they proved.
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That's interesting.
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In 2003, it turns out there's not many globalists.
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You know what's going on.
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And if you sit there and shake and coward and sit there,
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you're delivering your children into a living hell,
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a hell on Earth, Hades on Earth.
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And I'm here to tell you that it's a handful.
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A few thousand globalist managers,
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a few dozen families that own this thing,
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they're counting on you being ignorant.
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If you find out they're counting on you being afraid
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and being cowardly, you have got to be men.
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You have got to be women.
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You have got to be strong.
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You have got to do whatever it takes
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to stand up against this evil and to speak out
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and to not be violent and to tell the truth
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and let them burn us at the stake
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if they want to in the arena, I'm ready.
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I believe what Jesus Christ said.
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I believe in decency.
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I believe in wholesomeness.
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Wholesomeness.
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Wholesome.
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That's how I would describe his show in the present day.
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Wholesome.
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Very wholesome.
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Wholesome.
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Reminds me of the Buttercream Gang.
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That's what it reminds me of.
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Yeah.
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That's who I think of when I think of Alex, Owen,
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Harrison, whites are the best Smith.
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I think of the Buttercream Gang.
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Yeah, this was just really weird.
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Cause it was, I mean, it's fill in time
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and it's just a long rant more or less
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just about how like we gotta be peaceful.
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Yeah.
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We can't be hateful.
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Sure.
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The globalists are in trouble cause we're so popular
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and you have to be strong and we believe in wholesomeness.
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It's all goodness.
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Oh yeah.
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And it all seems to be in response
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to that caller bringing up extermination
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of the enemies.
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It does seem like it's genuine too.
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I wonder if-
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I mean in a certain sense.
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I wonder if it's also in part because Alex
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was probably pretty excited about getting these DJs on
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and it didn't go well.
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Sure.
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I wonder if that plays into his mood a little bit.
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Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
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Since we know that generally speaking
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what comes out of his mouth is the result
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of how he's feeling.
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Yeah.
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As opposed to what's going on.
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Yeah, yeah.
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And I think that maybe the fact that that didn't
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wasn't something he could build on at all
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and he's just gonna have to pretend
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that interview never happened.
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Yeah, that's basically what he's doing, yes.
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Yeah.
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It's a mulligan or whatever.
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Yeah, yeah.
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Yeah, I wonder.
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That'd be interesting.
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Anyway, one of the things that we discovered
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through every period of time that we've looked through
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at least the last few years.
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Sure.
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Going back into 2015.
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Right.
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Even prior to Trump's candidacy, Alex loves Putin.
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True.
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And Russia.
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Loves him.
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Big strong man, I think he saw him on that horse
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without his shirt on.
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Well, he had a stretch where he was like,
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it was bad that Putin kills journalists.
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Yeah, that was a little farther back.
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That was a little bit farther back, yeah.
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True, true, true.
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That was what, 2013?
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Well, here's 2003.
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Okay.
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Look folks, Putin got caught.
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Moscow police arrested FSB, the new KGB,
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planning bombs in a fourth Moscow apartment building.
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They took him to jail, they had him.
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Putin's police raided it, arrested the cops,
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took the bombs, that's a fact.
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You know, government has to blow up its own stuff
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as an excuse to crack down on you.
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Figure that out.
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In the present day, Alex does not believe this.
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Oh no, absolutely not.
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He does not believe that Putin was behind the bombings
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that were blamed on the Chechen rebels.
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No longer an expedient truth to know about.
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Now, I think that there's something interesting about this,
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and that is, when was the lie?
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Was he lying about it being a fact in 2003?
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Yeah.
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Or is he lying now?
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Yeah.
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You gotta...
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Or does he just not care?
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I think he doesn't care.
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Yeah, I mean, I think to a certain extent,
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like when you think about a lie,
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you do think about somebody with malicious intent
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or at the very least, like desire to hide information
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or something like that.
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And to me, what I'm seeing from all of this totality now
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is just a man who just doesn't give a fuck
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if it's true or not or whatever.
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He's not lying, he just doesn't care.
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You know, he's just beyond lying or not lying.
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He's just making up his own reality that he exists in
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from a moment to moment point of view.
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Yeah, and there's some things
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that seem pretty consistently important.
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Yeah.
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Like him being left alone, Christian supremacy,
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whiteness and guns. Totally, yeah.
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And then he's figured out some sort of routines
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that work pretty well, like the vaccine lies
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and stuff that you just see him doing consistently.
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Yeah, anyway, Alex has another caller.
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Oh, jeez.
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I just keep this in
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because I think it makes Alex look like a dick.
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Yeah, I want you to take 50 copies of Road to Tyranny
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and hand it out to everybody.
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I can't, I only have one VCR.
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I can't copy it yet.
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Need to buy another one, pay the 50 bucks,
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buy the blank tapes and do it.
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I guess, yeah, I know, but I don't even have 50 bucks.
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I'm doing what I can.
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Well, go to your neighbor, get it,
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whenever you have to.
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All right.
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What?
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Wow, that is presaging his televangelism right there.
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Yeah.
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He doesn't get more televangelist then.
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Oh, sell your home, sell your home.
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Give me, ask your kids for money to give it to me.
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Go to your neighbor.
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I need a private jet.
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Go to your neighbor to go get money to buy a second VCR
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so you can make copies of my movies.
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Which you will give to your neighbor.
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Yeah.
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Wow.
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Oh boy.
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Anyway, I thought that was asshole-ish.
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That's real dick-ish.
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Yeah, I can't imagine the level of narcissistic
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you have to be to have multiple follow-ups
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when someone's explaining why they can't copy your tapes.
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No, I mean, it's sales, you know?
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That's that like, Bill, rich dad, poor dad,
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like don't take no for an answer shit.
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And you're like, no, that's psychopathic, you nutbag.
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Back when I worked in telemarketing,
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if your calls were monitored, like you would get in trouble
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if you didn't have two rebuttals.
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Yeah, exactly.
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And that seems like what Alex is doing there,
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but it's not sales, you're talking to a person.
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Yeah, exactly.
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But I guess it is sales.
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About bullshit.
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So we have one last clip here from May 9th.
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And again, it's Alex talking about his enemies.
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There's no mention of the devil.
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Are you sure it's not the devil?
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It's like Monday's Night Ritter headline,
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Night Ritter newspapers.
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Neocons call for New World Order.
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Well, it's not the Neocons.
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They're just the puppets of the day.
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When they say Ashcroft wants Patriot Act Two,
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no, the globalists want Patriot Act Two.
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Don't be diverted by just these low level puppet nobodies.
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Be focused on the real power, the New World Order bankers.
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God bless you all.
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Have a good weekend.
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See you back at nine, nine to midnight.
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Yeah, so it's New World Order bankers.
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I mean,
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I guess.
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Multiple times in these two days,
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he clearly expresses who he feels he's up against.
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Yeah.
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And it's all terrestrial concerns.
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It's not an elaborate conspiracy of dimensions.
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It's not.
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No.
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It's not metaphysical.
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He didn't get any dreams when he was 10.
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Nothing.
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He wasn't a Satanist.
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No.
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Nope.
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And I mean like this doesn't prove
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that he never talks about any of this stuff,
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but like a lot of the themes that you would think
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might have been important are not important.
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And if they normally come up now,
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if he brings up something similar to these topics,
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there's always that personal element of like,
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you know, I was a Satanist.
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You know, like that.
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None of that shit.
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None of that.
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None of it.
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Brutal.
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No talk about Epstein.
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No talk about cabals of secret child trading,
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blood drinking.
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Not even any Bill Gates.
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Oh, he does mention Bill Gates at one point.
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Oh, does he?
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Yeah.
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But Gates isn't in there with the Rothschilds
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and the Bilderbergs at Citra.
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No, this is a side mention of Bill Gates,
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but I mean, of course he's been relevant for a long time
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and a philanthropist.
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And a piece of shit.
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Alex hates that because it works counter
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to his political positions of doing everything he can
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to hurt the developing world.
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Right.
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Anyway, I enjoyed a little bit of this
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in as much as, you know, the Dixie chick deejays.
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Yeah.
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We're interviewed.
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What a bunch of dicks.
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But, and I think that it's certainly,
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I don't even want to know what Alex is doing
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in the present day, quite frankly.
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Oh no.
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Good God, no.
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No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no,
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no, no, no, no, no, no, no.
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I'm conflicted about whether or not
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there's a need to cover present day.
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Oh my God.
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We will see.
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We'll see.
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Oh, sweet Jesus.
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Anyway, whatever ends up happening, we'll be back.
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Yes, we will.
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But until then, we have a website.
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We do have a website.
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It's knowledgefight.com.
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Yes, we're also on Twitter.
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We are on Twitter.
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It's at knowledgefight.com.
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Go to bed, Jordan.
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We're also on Facebook.
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We are on Facebook.
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I too said if you could,
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please find a local charity or bail fund in your area
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to help out people doing God's work right now.
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Yep, we'll be back.
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But until then, I'm Neo.
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I'm Leo.
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I'm DZX Clark.
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I'm Daryl Rundes.
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This podcast is secretly brought to you by Clear Channel
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and an elaborate conspiracy to sell tickets
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to Alex Jones's live cabaret review.
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Andy in Kansas, you're on the air.
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Thanks for holding.
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Hello, Alex.
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I'm a first time caller.
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I'm a huge fan.
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I love your work.
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I love you.
